November 29, 2010

We're No Better Than The Terrorists Or Something: Iranian Nuke Scientist Killed In Sneak Bomb Attack
— Ace

Seems like some kind of sticky bomb -- men on motorcycles drove by and slapped the bombs on the scientists' car windows. In two separate attacks, one nuke scientist was killed, another seriously injured.

Iranians were quick to deny Americans any credit, pinning it on Israel.

I sure would like to think my government was capable of stuff like this. Or had the balls to do it. But I don't.

Posted by: Ace at 10:15 AM | Comments (85)
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1

 Or had the balls to do it.

That's what I'm sayin', Son!

Posted by: James Carville at November 29, 2010 10:17 AM (vVqZy)

2 Kinda cool method.

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 29, 2010 10:18 AM (del3r)

3
Valerie Flame could've stopped this if she wasn't outed by Dick Cheney.

Posted by: Professor Soothsayer at November 29, 2010 10:18 AM (uFokq)

4 HEY, LETS TERRORIZE THE TERRORISTS.  FINALLY!

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 29, 2010 10:19 AM (del3r)

5 This reminds me, we need to get out the Condolence Cards and send one to the Mullahs.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 29, 2010 10:19 AM (vVqZy)

6
the "green" revolution lives?

Posted by: Professor Soothsayer at November 29, 2010 10:19 AM (uFokq)

7 WHAT?

That guy owes me money!

Posted by: gastorgrab at November 29, 2010 10:19 AM (H2LlS)

8 Obama has no balls, so that leaves that out.

Posted by: tarpon at November 29, 2010 10:20 AM (g0QB8)

9 Hahaha!  C4 n00bs!!!

Posted by: EC at November 29, 2010 10:20 AM (mAhn3)

10 This reminds me of one of my few movies that didn't suck. Also Halli Beri's tits.

Posted by: John Travolta at November 29, 2010 10:21 AM (uXlxP)

11 Blow'd up good!

Posted by: Billy Sol Hurok at November 29, 2010 10:21 AM (MMC8r)

12 I'd rather see them blow up the political/religious leaders who employ the scientists, but whatever.


Actually, is there any chance these dudes were less cooperative than the govt wanted and that's why they got turned into pate? 

Posted by: Y-not at November 29, 2010 10:21 AM (5HSsN)

13 Blow'd up REAL good!

Posted by: Big Jim McBob at November 29, 2010 10:21 AM (MMC8r)

14 It certainly wasn't anything Obama would have condoned.  He sees a mushroom cloud as one way to stop apartment construction in Israel.

Posted by: Adjoran at November 29, 2010 10:21 AM (VfmLu)

15

Saudis.

The Mossad would have got them both. 

Posted by: garrett at November 29, 2010 10:21 AM (vVqZy)

16 I'm not sure we want any "credit" for this one, Ace.  Not many in that part of the world want Iran to have Nukes, but I think one reason they're not supporting direct military action (even just by saying things like "Go ahead Isreal, we'll give two punches for free and look the other way.") is they're afraid the same fate would befall them if they ever pursued Nuclear weapons.  As well it might.

Isreal is already used to this kind of thing.  More importantly, everyone expected exactly that from Iran, so no one is paying too much attention.  Having the blame thrown on us would do some extra diplomatic damage that we really don't need right now.

I do agree that I wish I believe our current Administration was capable of something like this, though.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at November 29, 2010 10:22 AM (8y9MW)

17 I guess it doesn't pay to be a Stuxnet expert.

Posted by: Fritz at November 29, 2010 10:23 AM (GwPRU)

18 Another use for Silly Putty. Excellent.

Posted by: real joe at November 29, 2010 10:23 AM (IpIBJ)

19 12 I'd rather see them blow up the political/religious leaders who employ the scientists, but whatever.


Actually, is there any chance these dudes were less cooperative than the govt wanted and that's why they got turned into pate? 

Posted by: Y-not at November 29, 2010 03:21 PM (5HSsN)

I can see it being that he was actually a turned informant for Israel or the US.  Perhaps the mole that placed Stuxnet into their systems.  And so the Iranians took him out in a manner they could blame others.

But of course that's just wild speculation.

Posted by: buzzion at November 29, 2010 10:24 AM (oVQFe)

20 prompted a stern warning
... from Hans Blix ?

Posted by: Barney the Dinosaur at November 29, 2010 10:24 AM (tE8FB)

21 Mossad. They're not afraid to get their hands dirty if the situation requires it. CIA is FAR too sophisticated for such nonsense.

Posted by: joncelli© at November 29, 2010 10:25 AM (RD7QR)

22 This smells like a Finnish tactic to me. Just like when they fought the Ruskies in the winter war.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 29, 2010 10:26 AM (tf9Ne)

23 Does anyone doubt that whoever is responsible for the murders of these Iranian nuclear scientists are Terrorists in the purest sense of the word?

Glenn Greenwald
Salon.com

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 29, 2010 10:27 AM (yea0z)

24 First time I read this, my impression was that the Iranian government was involved.  They've got a history of shooting their own people, what's a couple of nuclear scientists?

Posted by: Bomber at November 29, 2010 10:28 AM (d88g9)

25 Wasn't this kind of attack featured in the Chuck Norris flick "Invasion USA"?

Except the target was school buses, I believe....

Posted by: TXMarko at November 29, 2010 10:28 AM (GYsqV)

26 No, really, I told them to send a fruit basket.

Posted by: ziva david at November 29, 2010 10:28 AM (uRNmj)

27

Anybody wanna bet that a team has been lying low and was told to celebrate the wikileaks (Saudis wanted Iran stomped) by kicking off a plan they had devised and wound up? Obama and © aren't the only ones to take advantage of news dumps.

 

Who wants to hear what's going on inside the Saudi embassy in Tehran?

Posted by: Blue Hen at November 29, 2010 10:29 AM (R2fpr)

28 Probably Israel and no it is not terrorism; it is assassination.

Posted by: Vic at November 29, 2010 10:30 AM (e4sSD)

29 Jimmy Obama couldn't land a C-130 in the desert. 

Now a motor bike, maybe?

NOT.


Posted by: Kemp at November 29, 2010 10:30 AM (JpFM9)

30 This was obviously a case of FBI entrapment.  Leave these poor people alone!

Posted by: Portland moonbat at November 29, 2010 10:30 AM (d8zYO)

31

Iranians were quick to deny Americans any credit, pinning it on Israel.

It was women in bikinis with their boobs shaking all around!!

Posted by: iknowtheleft®© at November 29, 2010 10:31 AM (G/MYk)

32 Whoever did this is on our radar.

Posted by: Eric Holder at November 29, 2010 10:32 AM (mka2b)

33 Dirty fucking fishing eating Scandi's!

By the way what has happened to the Scandi dissing?

Nokia an advertiser now?

Posted by: Kemp at November 29, 2010 10:33 AM (JpFM9)

34 Who said I wanted to better than a terrorist anyway? I want to be worse.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at November 29, 2010 10:33 AM (LdYLm)

35 We did it.  But we were only supposed to hit WikiIran scientists.  Oh well.

Posted by: WikiCIA at November 29, 2010 10:33 AM (G/MYk)

36 Whoever did this is on our radar.

Posted by: Eric Holder

Really? It was us.

Posted by: The new (and improved!) Black Panthers (with extra whitening) at November 29, 2010 10:33 AM (R2fpr)

37 Well, to find out for sure if we did it, someone should send an email to Julian Assrangel and see what he says....

Posted by: Sponge © at November 29, 2010 10:34 AM (UK9cE)

38 First time I read this, my impression was that the Iranian government was involved. They've got a history of shooting their own people, what's a couple of nuclear scientists?

No one claimed responsibility for the attacks and no arrests have been made, Iranian officials said. But they prompted a stern warning by the normally cool-headed head of Iran's atomic energy agency, Ali Akbar Salehi, who described Shahriari as a former student.

.. prompted a stern warning ... these folks kill people for breakfast and they issue a "stern warning"  ... yeah, it was the Basij.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 29, 2010 10:36 AM (tE8FB)

39 "Whoever did this is on our radar. Posted by: Eric Holder Really? It was us. Posted by: The new (and improved!) Black Panthers (with extra whitening) at November 29, 2010 03:33 PM (R2fpr)" Oh. Well, in that case . . . never mind.

Posted by: Eric Holder at November 29, 2010 10:37 AM (4YUWF)

40 Surprise cockbags!

Posted by: 8 at November 29, 2010 10:37 AM (jo7gO)

41

Pretty sweet.  Woulda been better if they'd killed off the guy's family too, though.  Gotta make sure those bastards know that if they want to work for the loons in charge of Iran, it's not just their own ass on the line.  The missus and the little kiddies and siblings and parents will get spoded also.  That would cause the supply of nuke scientists to shrink yet further.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 29, 2010 10:38 AM (xUM1Q)

42

The Mossad would have got them both. 

Posted by: garrett at November 29, 2010 03:21 PM (vVqZy)

The Mossad sometimes botches the job.  Case in point: Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal, who survived a Mossad assassination attempt in Jordan (which is why he lives in Damascus now).

Posted by: stuiec at November 29, 2010 10:38 AM (7AOgy)

43

Back in the 70s and 80s, the anti-US terrorists (mostly communists if I recall correctly) in the Philippines used to do something like this, except they would drive small scooters up the driver's window of cars, pull a handgun and fire at the driver, and then take off never to be found.

Posted by: TRO at November 29, 2010 10:39 AM (DZXKW)

44 Are we sure it wasn't Cam Newton? That man can do anything. For money.

Posted by: Josef K. at November 29, 2010 10:39 AM (7+pP9)

45

It was Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.

 

*insert pregnant pause here*

 

I keed...I keeed

Posted by: torabora at November 29, 2010 10:40 AM (grzsD)

46 #12  Actually, is there any chance these dudes were less cooperative than the govt wanted and that's why they got turned into pate?

Possible, but unlikely.  If they were insolent, they would have been coerced into submission via family pressure or torture.  If coercion failed, they would have been "liquidated" privately.  The Iranian government wouldn't have made the loss of two top scientists a public spectacle if the Mullahs had ordered their demise, even if they could use the disposal method as a way to demonize Israel in the process.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 29, 2010 10:40 AM (9hSKh)

47 As cool as limpet mines on the car window sound, it's still not as cool as when the Red Army Faktion killed the head of Deutsche Bank with a shaped charge and a plate of copper in the basket of a bicycle parked across the street from the guy's house.  Sent a jet of molten copper through his bulletproof limo's door, and through him as well.

Posted by: stuiec at November 29, 2010 10:40 AM (7AOgy)

48 Possible, but unlikely. If they were insolent, they would have been coerced into submission via family pressure or torture. If coercion failed, they would have been "liquidated" privately. The Iranian government wouldn't have made the loss of two top scientists a public spectacle if the Mullahs had ordered their demise, even if they could use the disposal method as a way to demonize Israel in the process. Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 29, 2010 03:40 PM (9hSKh) Your thinking like a rational westerner. Now you may be right, but who knows how these deranged fuckers think?

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 29, 2010 10:42 AM (0GFWk)

49 #12  Actually, is there any chance these dudes were less cooperative than the govt wanted and that's why they got turned into pate?

Possible, but unlikely.  If they were insolent, they would have been coerced into submission via family pressure or torture.  If coercion failed, they would have been "liquidated" privately.  The Iranian government wouldn't have made the loss of two top scientists a public spectacle if the Mullahs had ordered their demise, even if they could use the disposal method as a way to demonize Israel in the process.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta)

 

Don't be too sure. This could be a tofer. Internally, they got rid of at least one person they no longer needed or liked. And they get to fan afresh the specter of an external enemy.

Posted by: The new (and improved!) Black Panthers (with extra whitening) at November 29, 2010 10:43 AM (R2fpr)

50

No one claimed responsibility for the attacks and no arrests have been made, Iranian officials said.

Dirty, filthy Scandis, I'm telling you.

Or meerkats--they're shifty.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 29, 2010 10:43 AM (B+qrE)

51 Don't be too sure. This could be a tofer. Internally, they got rid of at least one person they no longer needed or liked. And they get to fan afresh the specter of an external enemy.

And could use it to convince any other of their nuke guys to behave.

Posted by: Bomber at November 29, 2010 10:44 AM (d88g9)

52 Anti-violence activists arrested in Irvington
IRVINGTON — Six people were arrested and one officer used pepper spray as Irvington police tried to break up a peace rally that authorities say turned into a melee.


Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at November 29, 2010 10:44 AM (LdYLm)

53

So Iran is admitting that it's been thoroughly infiltrated by the CIA and Mossad?  That sort of undermines the Iranian regime's image of invulnerability and total societal control, doesn't it?

And this on top of the attempted hijacking of an Iranian jetliner a day or two ago.

Iranian security forces foiled a hijack attempt on Saturday by arresting a man on a flight to Syria who said he had planted a bomb on board, the semi-official Fars news agency reported.

An official from Iran's national carrier, Iran Air, told the agency that the man was suffering from a "mental problem."

"The man ... said that he wanted to hijack the plane. He caused panic among the passengers. But he was immediately arrested by the security forces on board," Shahrokh Noushabadi, head of the airline's public relation office, told Fars.

No bomb was found and the Airbus plane, which had taken off from Tehran, later landed safely in Damascus, the agency said.

Posted by: stuiec at November 29, 2010 10:44 AM (7AOgy)

54 Or had the balls to do it

Matzoh balls, is what I heard.

Posted by: Moe Saud at November 29, 2010 10:44 AM (pRKLf)

55

An official from Iran's national carrier, Iran Air, told the agency that the man was suffering from a "mental problem."

Anyone seen Rick Sanchez since CNN booted him?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 29, 2010 10:46 AM (B+qrE)

56

An official from Iran's national carrier, Iran Air, told the agency that the man was suffering from a "mental problem."

Anyone seen Rick Sanchez since CNN booted him?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 29, 2010 03:46 PM (B+qrE)

Don't be surprised if on the next Countdown, Olbermann declares the Iranian air marshals the "Worst Persons in the World."

Posted by: stuiec at November 29, 2010 10:47 AM (7AOgy)

57

Funny how our side has nuclear physicists (people who tinker with the laws of nature) and nuclear engineers (people who exploit these laws to make terrible things) but the other side has nuclear scientists (students of the Universe innocently seeking knowledge).

Posted by: FireHorse at November 29, 2010 10:50 AM (sWynj)

58 I wonder if the Saudis are responsible ...

Motorcyclists are extremely common in that part of the world, practically untraceable, and, given the way traffic works there, usually quite skilled.

A 12" stick (handle) with a brick of C4 on the end, wrapped in plastic (Saran wrap, a dry-cleaning bag, etc.), then covered with some very sticky substance (rubber cement) held in a backpack, is a very low-tech solution.

Ride up alongside the car, pull the charge out by the handle, wham it against the window, pull a ring to start a 10-sec fuse, then twist the throttle to leave at warp speed ...

Hmmmmmmm ... could be anyone.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 29, 2010 10:53 AM (BqSr3)

59

Funny how our side has nuclear physicists (people who tinker with the laws of nature) and nuclear engineers (people who exploit these laws to make terrible things) but the other side has nuclear scientists (students of the Universe innocently seeking knowledge).

Posted by: FireHorse at November 29, 2010 03:50 PM (sWynj)

They have Master's Degrees... in SCIENCE!

Posted by: stuiec at November 29, 2010 10:53 AM (7AOgy)

60 its a twofer for mossad--you think we have black ops in country plus we don"t kill civilian non combatants unless the potus signs off--so the joos kill the evil scientists--pour encouager les autres--gerald bull redux plus 'watch over yer shoulder twelver--yahweh wants a word  

Posted by: HULUGU at November 29, 2010 10:53 AM (AuHlJ)

61 Pour encourager les autres.

Posted by: JEM at November 29, 2010 10:57 AM (o+SC1)

62 the detonater is what's interesting--on the device or cell phone call--inquiring minds want to know

Posted by: HULUGU at November 29, 2010 10:59 AM (AuHlJ)

63 Lot of work to do to keep the amount of necessary explosive minimal.

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at November 29, 2010 10:59 AM (yt878)

64 Didn't they just have a nuclear scientist defect to the US or something?  No chance this was a 'deterrent' action?  I think so.

Posted by: Sponge © at November 29, 2010 11:02 AM (UK9cE)

65 In India, the CEO of Bajaj Auto(manufacturer of the Pulsar Motorbike) and two top executives celebrate. They were pleased their crappy bike did not cause the explosion.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 29, 2010 11:06 AM (tE8FB)

66 http://www.debka.com/article/20406/ DEBKA says the dead guy was in charge of shutting down Stuxnet..... maybe the virus has jumped into humnas now? %-)

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 29, 2010 11:08 AM (d1FhN)

67 One word, Mossad.

Posted by: Marie at November 29, 2010 11:12 AM (eAjF/)

68 Just this past week, the federal government took decisive action to shut down more than 70 Web sites that were disseminating pirated music and movies. Hollywood is safe, but WikiLeaks is free to disseminate classified documents without consequence.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 29, 2010 11:14 AM (tE8FB)

69
In a just world, this would have been the opening act in the Second Iranian Revolution, with freedom-loving Iranians striking out against their oppressors with US-supplied explosives.

Unfortunately, it's not a just world.

If the CIA had any gumption left, they'd mass-drop care packages over Tehran containing 2 lbs of Semtex with blasting caps, a Makarov pistol with two extra magazines and a 100 round box of ammo. Small enough to fit everything into a Happy Meal box, and capable of quite a lot of mayhem.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 29, 2010 11:14 AM (DZVrI)

70 If the CIA had any gumption left

It's not a question of "gumption" its a question of resources and operating parameters.  The CIA has been gutted and castrated regarding this kind of action.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at November 29, 2010 11:17 AM (8y9MW)

71 Anti-violence activists arrested in Irvington
IRVINGTON — Six people were arrested and one officer used pepper spray as Irvington police tried to break up a peace rally that authorities say turned into a melee.

Only one thing will solve this problem, peace control.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 29, 2010 11:23 AM (xxgag)

72 OMGbama would have stopped that operation in its tracks had he known about it.

Posted by: John at November 29, 2010 11:24 AM (9NQ6I)

73 Yet another act of violence by science-hating teabaggers.

Posted by: Lefty Hussein McMoonbat at November 29, 2010 11:28 AM (saRwI)

74 DEBKA says the dead guy was in charge of shutting down Stuxnet..... maybe the virus has jumped into humnas now? %-)
Posted by: redc1c4 at November 29, 2010 04:08 PM (d1FhN)

Maybe he was working for us or Israel and Ahmadinnahjacket found out.  Or maybe he really sucked at virus removal and knew too much.  If it was a western or Israeli intelligence service why wouldn't they just pull up alongside him and shoot him in the face with a sawed off 12-guage? 

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at November 29, 2010 11:29 AM (IoUF1)

75 22 This smells like a Finnish tactic to me. Just like when they fought the Ruskies in the winter war.
_______

Naw. I'm pretty sure the Finns would stick to chemical weapons.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 29, 2010 11:33 AM (xGZ+b)

76 If it was a western or Israeli intelligence service why wouldn't they just pull up alongside him and shoot him in the face with a sawed off 12-guage? This way is 1. more thorough and 2. more frightening. Part of the overall effect is psychological.

Posted by: joncelli© at November 29, 2010 11:34 AM (RD7QR)

77 If it was a western or Israeli intelligence service why wouldn't they just pull up alongside him and shoot him in the face with a sawed off 12-guage?

This way is 1. more thorough and 2. more frightening. Part of the overall effect is psychological.

Posted by: joncelli© at November 29, 2010 04:34 PM (RD7QR)

Also:

a) it's harder to conceal a sawed-off shotgun;

b) bulletproof glass might save the target from the full lethal effect of the shotgun;

c) it's trickier to handle a shotgun while steering a motorcycle.

A shaped-charge limpet mine on the window is going to penetrate.  Depending on how it's detonated, there isn't much of a trick to handling it: slap it on and go.  And it's easier to carry without attracting attention.

Note that even so, only one of the two targeted scientists died.  The process was therefore subject to error.

Posted by: stuiec at November 29, 2010 12:02 PM (7AOgy)

78

DEBKA says the dead guy was in charge of shutting down Stuxnet..... maybe the virus has jumped into humans now?

On November 27, 2010 at 22:41 GMT Skynet Stuxnet became self-aware.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at November 29, 2010 12:30 PM (CZ+OU)

79 Doing it the hard way. All we gotta do is publish a scathing critique of these guys in the editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal. Then they will shot themselves in the back of the head in Fort Marcy Park. Problem solved.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at November 29, 2010 12:51 PM (qwK3S)

80

I watched the movie Munich.

I try every day not to piss off the Israelis and the Mossad.

And I love Israelis. Did I say that already? Especially their women, when they are carrying full auto weapons. Double Tapper is my hero!!

But then again, I am a simple, fat, ignorant, lazy American.

Posted by: Andrew at November 29, 2010 01:09 PM (ECap0)

81 As Insty would say: Faster, Please.

I bet the # of key people in the Iranian nuke program is surprisingly small.

Posted by: ed at November 29, 2010 01:35 PM (QcFbt)

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