November 29, 2008

Vid: Roger Simon, Lionel Chetwynd on Quantum of Solace and the Appeal of Bond
— Ace

They didn't like it much.

Posted by: Ace at 11:34 AM | Comments (37)
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Posted by: Remember the Kat-Mo! at November 29, 2008 11:38 AM (falCl)

2 Oops! Caption didn't appear: "Film director Roland Emmerich's London home, featuring a mural of Mao and a sofa cushion with Stalin's face."

Posted by: Remember the Kat-Mo! at November 29, 2008 11:38 AM (falCl)

3 I won't bother with it on the general principle that you should avoid movies with stupid titles.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at November 29, 2008 12:12 PM (eiOZw)

4 They shouldn't, it sucked ass.

Posted by: Rusty at November 29, 2008 12:20 PM (JQjhA)

5 No doubt, it was a pretty boring film.

Parts of it were artsy, and I kinda like artsy. But doing things a little differently is no excuse for making a boring movie.

Posted by: Asclepius at November 29, 2008 12:26 PM (V+XP4)


I'm not sure about this whole PJM TV thing, the show seems a little short on professionalism.

That said, I did like their main point.  Old Bond: rough people doing bad things to protect a superior society.  New Bond: good people doing good things despite the evils of society.

Posted by: Jake at November 29, 2008 12:36 PM (dyxIs)

7 screwed. McCain's campaigning for Chambliss.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at November 29, 2008 01:05 PM (n7hY1)


If I recall Bond enjoyed doing bad things to bad people almost as much as in Casino Royale.  The movie didn't throw out any of the old tropes that those two seem to think it did.  The fact that they hit the same subject matter (oh my, they mentioned oil!) doesn't mean that they were going to go full moonbat.

Don't be hypersensative, that's the liberal's job.

Posted by: Cincinnatus at November 29, 2008 01:24 PM (U663l)

9 Still like Daniel Craig, but this was Bourne Identity #4, not Casino Royale #2. Poor writing, bad plot.

Posted by: Frank G at November 29, 2008 01:27 PM (P0rQD)

10 The scenes were not nearly as dangerous as my helo trip in Afganistan.

Posted by: Crazy Joe Biden at November 29, 2008 01:46 PM (NLtVk)

11 I take great relish in defending my views, positions, and philosophies in life. With this being said, James Bond was always about the three things.


James Bond was never designed to be a realistic portrayal of things, it's over the top and that was why I loved it.

Now.. Bond turned into a dark brooding emo mourning over a girl who betrayed him.

Then he completely ignores the smokin hot Olga Kurylenko... this movie is a victim of bad writing and that kind of sucks because Craig is a damn good Bond.

Please let's get back to jetpacks and pussy galore.

Posted by: Orator at November 29, 2008 01:51 PM (yImMm)

12 >>11

Now.. Bond turned into a dark brooding emo mourning over a girl who betrayed him.

Haven't seen it yet but it sounds like unabashed faggotry.  I wouldn't be surprised if 007 eats a cock in the next installment.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at November 29, 2008 02:01 PM (QTQzC)

13 "Roger Simon, Lionel Chetwynd on Quantum of Solace and the Appeal of Bond"

They actually discuss the film? After two minutes of listening to them blather, I gave up. Oh yeah, and the movie sucked ass.

Posted by: ErikTheRed at November 29, 2008 02:14 PM (erlfI)

14 I'm sure the next Bond villain will have one of these, or maybe not..don't ask...

Posted by: JavaJoe at November 29, 2008 02:15 PM (Am6n/)

15 Yikes! I wasted a whole day reading articles and blogs on the left and anti-semitism. Lord those people are fucking wordy. I hate socialists/trotskites/marxists. They are all shitting bricks because they plan to give Dame Thatcher a state funeral when her time comes. Too bad!

Posted by: Remember the Kat-Mo! at November 29, 2008 02:28 PM (falCl)

16 I seem to have seen a different film, 'cause I loved Quantum.  It's actually more like the early Bond films and more like the original Fleming novels.  And I liked the bad guy being a phony environmentalist the hoi-poloi get foolishly giddy over.

My wife and I have seen it twice. 

Posted by: Gary at November 29, 2008 02:54 PM (pQ045)


Quantum doesn't make sense as a concept; SPECTRE did because it was a criminal organization, like the French, Italian, and Chinese mobs, that did not bother to avail themselves of government resources. Mr Greene, is not an impressive villain, and no amount of Kosian conspiracy makes him more realistic.

Sarah's the real draw in Georgia, four different trips, in one day. She's the real draw in the party, if anyone can turn out the vote for Chambliss, she can. For all the reasons I've covered earlier. Those four million Republicans who decided not vote three weeks ago, feel real good just about now, don't they?

Posted by: narciso at November 29, 2008 03:05 PM (9EG7Z)

18 Gary - it wasn't bad, just that I liked Casino Royale so much, I expected better.

It was enjoyable action, but really - explain to me why a hotel in the middle of Bumfuck Egypt desert (and no discernible attraction or other guests) has what
appears to be large containers of explosive gas in all portions of the building?

/yes, I know, it was South America, not Egypt

Posted by: Frank G at November 29, 2008 03:08 PM (P0rQD)


I just saw it this afternoon. The containers were fuel-cells. Hyrdogen gas fuel cells. And one of the baddies in the general's entourage mentioned that there had been no problem clearing the hotel. (You kind of have to pay attention to the dialogue--I know, not usually necessary in a Bond film). The hotel name was 'Pearl of the Dunes' or something like that, and I suppose it was supposed to be something the eco-villan's (I like the sound of that) company put together or something. I guess. I sort of wonder what happened to the staff, but then that discussion would devolve into the 'what-about-the-construction-workers-on-the-deathstar' conversation from 'Clerks'.

Its a movie.

Posted by: Eric Blair at November 29, 2008 03:39 PM (vhD4d)

20  yes, Eric, I do remember that "clear the hotel" dialogue, as well as the fuel cell nonsense.

I'd quibble further, but...ahhhh, shit. It's a movie :-)

Posted by: Frank G at November 29, 2008 05:25 PM (P0rQD)


Fuck these fat old fucks who reminisce about how JFK turned them onto Bond when they were teenagers.  Gosh, movie making sensibilities have changed since then?  The horror!

Quantum is not a great Bond movie.  Craig is a great Bond.  But spare me the fucking political exegisis.  I live and breathe politics, but I don't care if Bond is out to save baby harp seals from global warming.  I just want a good Bond movie.

And when I want opinions from old fat fucks I'd rather read them than have to look at the old fat fucks.

Posted by: Prufrock at November 29, 2008 07:07 PM (vISQb)

22 It wasn't that bad. I think the main problem is that the previous was so good, this one couldn't really live up to it.

Posted by: moviegique at November 29, 2008 07:11 PM (1y5Vr)

23 "I think the main problem is that the previous was so good, this one couldn't really live up to it."

I think after Dark Knight raised the bar from its successful reboot predecessor, folks were expecting the same here.

Posted by: someone at November 29, 2008 07:35 PM (1wXl7)

24 I've never met anybody named Lionel Chetwynd, but if I did I'd probably punch him in the mouth.

Posted by: ApacheWarrior at November 29, 2008 09:01 PM (zc3xn)

25 I thought it was pretty good. But yeah, in this film, Bond only drilled one girl and copped off with another. He's definitely turning queer. Everyone knows that if you don't get in the drawers of every woman you meet, that you're a batty boy.

Posted by: Infidelsalwayswin at November 30, 2008 02:50 AM (GQ82G)

26 I liked the film, too. I thought Craig was great as Bond. And I saw him go through many emotions in this film, not just as some killing machine as some have said. I liked the idea of creating another Spectre-like organization. And I thought Olga was damn good in it !! I like the direction they are taking Bond - much better than the comedy routines of the Roger Moore/Pierce Brosnan eras.

Posted by: Will at November 30, 2008 05:10 AM (21FJP)

27 Daniel Craig is unwatchable and boring. Bond is ruined.

Posted by: champagnation at November 30, 2008 10:10 PM (R6P3b)

28 They have rebooted Bond and are rebuilding the Bond mythos.  Remember, in the last film, Bond had just gotten his license to kill.  From this film, M now has an agent she knows she can trust when she can't even trust the people in her organization.

Something that hasn't been mentioned is the overquick cutting.  I didn't mind them cutting between things like the horse race and Bond's chase of the turned agent, but when they cut within the action at one second intervals, it is difficult to figured out what is going on.  I think your brain needs 2-3 seconds on each clip to catch on.  Any faster is just too much.

As to the gadgets, well, I hated the last pre-Craig Bond because they were doing stupid things like invisible cars.  Let's face it, gadgetwise, we are living in a James Bond world.  Instant communication practically anywhere, tracking of just about anything anywhere, cameras and hellfires on flying drones...  Just how could they possibly do a gadget that would be nifty enough to be Bondsian, but not so stupid that people won't groan (like the invisible car)?  A very difficult problem.

Just having Bond use the everyday gadgets we use is good enough for me.

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