May 30, 2006

Two Terrorist Bigs Nabbed In Iraq
— Ace

Quagmire One;

Quagmire Two.

And Interested Participant notes that these are only the two latest in a recent string of high-profile AQ captures.

I didn't bother posting on this, of course, because I didn't see the point. The MSM is providing virtually wall-to-wall coverage of Al Qaeda's very bad two weeks; what's the point of bloggers merely echoing what the MSM is shouting from the rooftops?

Posted by: Ace at 09:24 AM | Comments (83)
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1 You could have just linked it with a line of original content, and leave it there. Thats a little too Insty for AoS HQ though. I like your longer texts.

But, that is one of the reasons you might wanna do it. You have an audience that might like a brief of the same o same o everyonce in a while.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at May 30, 2006 09:34 AM (QTv8u)

2 Hmmm... never heard of these guys. Where's Osama?

Posted by: Gun Toting Liberal at May 30, 2006 09:42 AM (OKBoD)

3 Hmmm... never heard of these guys. Where's Osama?

Up your fucking ass, you fucking terrorist sympathizing dickhead.

Posted by: someone who is fucking sick of these kinds of worthless comments at May 30, 2006 09:45 AM (AQGeh)

4 Hmmm... never heard of these guys. Where's Osama?

Ooohhh...what a zinger?

Think of that one yourself?

Posted by: Slublog at May 30, 2006 09:51 AM (R8+nJ)

5 Hmmm... never heard of these guys. Where's Osama?
Posted by Gun Toting Liberal at May 30, 2006 02:42 PM


a. Hiding out, making mix tapes.

b. Not hacking the heads off infidels.

c. Not directing the insurgency in Iraq.

d. All of the above.

Posted by: benjamin at May 30, 2006 09:55 AM (dTJxx)

6 Calm down guys, He's got a point, don't you know that Osama is like Thrawn, or the Walking Man, or Sting?

Osama knows every step we take, and every move we make, and he's watching us!

Be sure to check under your bed before you go to bed, since obviously there is only ONE bogeyman in this world.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at May 30, 2006 09:56 AM (QTv8u)

7 > Ooohhh...what a zinger

Hold onto your hat, because you are not prepared for the lethal "My Pet Goat" quip coming any moment now.

Posted by: Guy T. at May 30, 2006 09:57 AM (j02xJ)

8 Wow... relax y'all. I was just wondering if any of you happened to know where Osama was, that's all. Man, oh man... talk about jumping to conclusions.

Posted by: Gun Toting Liberal at May 30, 2006 10:04 AM (OKBoD)

9 Hey guys, we were working on a version that would have automatically suggested that we are losing the GWOT because Bush is teh real terrorist. And he is still at large! The truth is out there, etc. etc. etc. We were even going to have a "marching ant border" around "get your head out of Bush's ass."

See what you miss out on when you ban someone?

Posted by: Mike auto-trollbot administrator at May 30, 2006 10:12 AM (K0x/A)

10 Wow... relax y'all. I was just wondering if any of you happened to know where Osama was, that's all. Man, oh man... talk about jumping to conclusions.

Is he not returning your phone calls now?

Posted by: Wickedpinto at May 30, 2006 10:16 AM (QTv8u)

11 GTL might want to axe about the thousands of AQ's that OBL trained while he had sanctuary to do so. Several thousand of his actual army have gone to the great whatever in the sky.

Whatever you say, mr. Its not as if its obvious that your game is mr. reverse. Everything is wrong becuase something else could have been done. Since OBL seems to have vanished (along with sanctuary), AQ seems to have had to act like the guy is dead anyway and rely on secondaries for day to day ops.

You are a doody head. And you probably think Michelle Malkin is ugly.

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 30, 2006 10:16 AM (K0x/A)

12 Wow... relax y'all. I was just wondering if any of you happened to know where Osama was, that's all. Man, oh man... talk about jumping to conclusions.

Sure your were.

Posted by: kelly at May 30, 2006 10:17 AM (wOrpg)

13 Wow... relax y'all. I was just wondering if any of you happened to know where Osama was, that's all. Man, oh man... talk about jumping to conclusions.

"Oh, ha, ha, ha... Tee hee, it was just a little joke... get it? Tee hee. I wasn't serious. Just asking a question, that's all."

Fuck you, you piece of shit. How 'bout you try to be a grown-up and take responsibility for what you were saying, you coward. You said it, now you want to back away from it. How fucking familiar. Just like every other "funny" little turd that posts shit like this here.

Just a joke, my dying ass.

Posted by: who is still fucking fed up with this horsehit at May 30, 2006 10:17 AM (AQGeh)

14 I was just wondering if any of you happened to know where Osama was, that's all.

On second thought, you may want to ask someone at the DNC since they seem to be focus-grouping talking points with him these days.

Posted by: kelly at May 30, 2006 10:20 AM (wOrpg)

15 hey thanks, for the great idea. Version 3 is gonna have a kick ass "where's OBL?" feature!

you are a true iranian hero!

Posted by: Mike auto-trollbot administrator at May 30, 2006 10:20 AM (K0x/A)

16 I saw a great bumper sticker, today.

MARINES
Travel Agents to Allah

Posted by: Bart at May 30, 2006 10:23 AM (e30Ys)

17 I'm happy to see these beasts being captured and I would certainly hope that soon enought hey would provide sufficient intelligence to capture Zarqawi. However, I'm still quite upset that others in Iraq (Sadr's militia?) are walking around shooting tennis players because they wear shorts. The Iraqi government has to get a hold of those guys too.

Maybe one thing at a time, but it's still very frustrating to hear stuff like the shooting of the tennis players of that of the children's entertainers.

Posted by: jmchez at May 30, 2006 10:31 AM (H5qDm)

18 Hmmm... never heard of these guys. Where's Osama?

The Left - Supporting our troops by denigrating and minimizing their every success.

Posted by: The Warden at May 30, 2006 10:51 AM (cMMJ/)

19 Wow... y'all are pretty touchy 'round here.

WickedPinto:

"Is he not returning your phone calls now?"

LOL. See - I have a sense of humor. That was definitely a good one. I actually smiled when I read that one. For real.

joeindc44:

"And you probably think Michelle Malkin is ugly."

Uhmmm... NO. I actually ADMIRE her when it comes to her stance on the borders. And I'd do her in an instant.

kelly:

"On second thought, you may want to ask someone at the DNC since they seem to be focus-grouping talking points with him these days."

Sorry. I don't hang out at the DNC, because I am not a DemoCRAP; I am an independent liberal. The DemoCRAP Party is *almost* as treasonous and traitorous as the RepubliCON Party. I think we should use the RICO Act to throw all of the bums in prison, then abolish the RICO Act, but that's just MOI. See - there's some French for ya to bash me with ;-)

Bart:

I saw a great bumper sticker, today.

MARINES
Travel Agents to Allah


Now that was some FUNNY SHIT! For REAL. See, even a Liberal can have a sense of humor at "anti PC" stuff.

Posted by: Gun Toting Liberal at May 30, 2006 10:56 AM (OKBoD)

20 The Warden:

The Left - Supporting our troops by denigrating and minimizing their every success.

Uh-uh-uh, Warden...

I was IN the Desert for OIF. And you?

Posted by: Gun Toting Liberal at May 30, 2006 10:59 AM (OKBoD)

21 adulterer!


Posted by: joeindc44 at May 30, 2006 10:59 AM (K0x/A)

22 I see you didn't deny you were a doody head

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 30, 2006 11:01 AM (K0x/A)

23 Thrawn, or the Walking ManNever heard of those guys. Where's Sting?

Seriously, if we can't capture people that liberals have heard of, what are we accomplishing? Just trying to distract from the fact that we haven't done everything. And if you haven't done everything, you haven't done anything.

Just ask a liberal.

Posted by: Roy at May 30, 2006 11:02 AM (2XXia)

24 Uh-uh-uh, Warden...

I was IN the Desert for OIF. And you?

Let me guess - you served with Jesse Macbeth.

Posted by: The Warden at May 30, 2006 11:04 AM (cMMJ/)

25 Hmmm... never heard of these guys. Where's Osama?

For the umpteenth time - he's most likely in Pakistan. In the mountains. Turns out, liberal ignorance notwithstanding, our troops are not allowed to operate in Pakistan. The conflicted and not terribly effective Pakistani government is responsible for pursuing Osama in the mountains.

So the real question is, where's the liberal comprehension of military and political reality? At least we know where the liberal snark is.

Posted by: geoff at May 30, 2006 11:09 AM (nH1Ad)

26 I was IN the Desert for OIF.

I think most people have found that walking on top of the desert allows for more mobility.

Posted by: geoff at May 30, 2006 11:11 AM (nH1Ad)

27 joeindc44:

"adulterer!"

Of course! I'm a Liberal.

"I see you didn't deny you were a doody head"

SIGH... okay, FINE. Yes, I am a "doody head" :-/ Feel better now??? ;-)

The Warden:

"Let me guess - you served with Jesse Macbeth."

Let me guess - you "support the troops" ONLY if they are "conservative" troops.

I support conservative troops. Do you support liberal troops? Doesn't sound like it, but I would HATE to jump to conclusions.

Posted by: Gun Toting Liberal at May 30, 2006 11:13 AM (OKBoD)

28 geoff:

"... he's most likely in Pakistan"

Thanks, Geoff! See? That was all I was askin' when everybody started jumping all over me instead of just answering the question.

Appreciate it, Sir.

Posted by: Gun Toting Liberal at May 30, 2006 11:16 AM (OKBoD)

29 Give me a break, GTL. You came in here sounding like a troll (i.e. snarky throw-away comment) and then demanded to be respected because you say you're in the military.

Over and over again we've had liberal trolls show up here pretending to be soldiers when they're not. Personally, I think it's kinduv funny, actually, but most people find it annoying, especially those who are or were in the armed forces. (Not me; I'm a pussy chicken-hawk.) The point is, it's a common occurence here.

I believe that you were in the armed forces, but what exactly do you expect to happen as a result of writing that? Does not putting much stock in what some random person types on the internet really count as a measure of support for our troops?

This is a fun site if you stick around, but don't start questioning our patriotism just because some of us are a little skeptical of random ASCII characters out of the ether, especially when there's been such a history of fraud.

Posted by: sandy burger at May 30, 2006 11:27 AM (K2rlS)

30 you see its like how GI Joe was never able to capture Cobra Commander because he was tucked away. Destro was the true power because he handled the day to day. Now, say that we captured Destro and Major Bludd, AQ is left with the figure head CC and that dithering bitch, the baroness. that hot, hot, naughty, baroness....

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 30, 2006 11:30 AM (K0x/A)

31 oh, I know, the MSM could play this like getting a garbage time touchdown in the fourth quarter. We have pretty much lost the war, this is just one last "battle of the bulge-like" gasp for us.

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 30, 2006 11:32 AM (K0x/A)

32 The point GTL is that you would not asked your smart ass question directly to the soldiers who captured these Al Queda leaders because they would slap you down faster then you could say " but I was in OIF!"

Posted by: roc ingersol at May 30, 2006 11:41 AM (m2CN7)

33 sandy burger:

"You came in here sounding like a troll (i.e. snarky throw-away comment)"

Sandy - actually, I was trying to make a point. I think it's time we nab OBL. Congrats to the guys for nabbing these other two pricks that I've never heard of, but I am growing tired of hearing the President and many of his supporters trying to say "Osama isn't important anymore".

I left my family to voluntarily deploy in hopes that I could help in some small way to capture or KILL this bastard after 9/11, but now he's "not important" anymore. BULLSHIT! He's important to ME. I'll NEVER forget what he orchestrated, and it almost seems TREASONOUS to me that people would just play it off like "We'll get him when/if we get him." Instead, we've got our troops with their hands tied behind their damned backs in Iraq as sitting ducks. Frankly, it's PISSING ME OFF.

I saw the value of toppling Saddam, for the fact that he had too many leaders on his payroll (never really bought the WMD's bullcrap), but nobody said we were going to occupy Iraq and dress our troops up for war, but leave them like sitting ducks to be killed.

And as for this site, I poke my head in here when I can, and it's got it's moments - both good ones and bad ones. I wouldn't come back if it wasn't entertaining every so often.

"... and then demanded to be respected because you say you're in the military."

NOPE. I've never demanded respect... NEVER for my military service.

joeindc44:

LOL!!!

Posted by: Gun Toting Liberal at May 30, 2006 11:59 AM (OKBoD)

34 Hey, what happened to the troll from Night of the Long Knives who begged to be unbanned?

Posted by: shawn at May 30, 2006 12:07 PM (lw1AE)

35 if any of you happened to know where Osama was, that's all.

Hanging with Cynthia McKinney in her hot tub last time I checked.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at May 30, 2006 12:21 PM (gf5iT)

36 Roy,

"Thrawn" and "The Walking Man" are hackish charicatures of the bogeyman in bad literature (though the hand of thrawn was actually a fun read, I'm ashamed to admit), "Sting" was a sarcastic reference to the idea that we need only worry about one stalker, when in fact we are opposing many.

JoeinDC44

EVERYONE knows that the reason GI Joe could never capture Cobra Commander, and why Destro later became Cobra Commander's bitch despite the power play of the arms race, was that Cobra Commander was not just an ordinary person. EVERYONE knows that Cobra Commander kept his face covered because he was in fact a robot, being controled by StarScream.

DUH!

Posted by: Wickedpinto at May 30, 2006 12:34 PM (QTv8u)

37 if any of you happened to know where Osama was, that's all.

Hanging with Cynthia McKinney in her hot tub last time I checked.

Posted by Purple Avenger

Actually, Cynthia cannot be with a non black for more than a few seconds without playing the race card.

I think even Osama, knowing he had an ally in McKinney, would still blow that bitch up and his last words would be something like "Why am I allied with this crazy racists bitch? Allah akbar" Boom/and then bubbles.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at May 30, 2006 12:37 PM (QTv8u)

38 You're right, Ace, the MSM has way more important things to cover...
Some of their own got killed/injured in Iraq.
That's more important than when our Troops die, and certainly more important than our Troops' successes...
and oh-by-the-way, didn't you hear the important news?
Marines are baby killers!!
Ask john kerry or murtha, and the baying hounds of the msm.

Posted by: Uncle Jefe at May 30, 2006 12:41 PM (QPFur)

39 Sandy - actually, I was trying to make a point. I think it's time we nab OBL.

So your plan is to invade Pakistan? Our ally? Or perhaps to launch a remote strike like we did a couple of months ago? [There's a liberal commenter over at RightWingSparkle's grousing about that this very day.]

I'm really tired of the petulant "just find him" crowd, who seem to believe that by just wanting it badly enough, he'll be captured. If he's beyond our reach, which he is, the mature approach is to try to render him ineffective. Which we've been trying to do, with pretty fair success. Saying that he doesn't matter means that he's no longer the huge player in Al Qaeda that he was, not that he's not as guilty as ever for his despicable crimes.

Posted by: geoff at May 30, 2006 01:07 PM (nH1Ad)

40 GTL,

Let me get this straight: You pop in here and make a trollishly snide comment that, when taken at face value, is a slap to our troops serving in Iraq. When people take exception to your snide remark, you then assert that you were just kidding around, afterwhich you smugly inform the group that of course you are happy that these thugs were captured, but you were making a point with your original comment.

Such a teachable moment for us all. You must be so proud of your sophistry. I mean, look, you even got me to attack a veteran like yourself! What a big moment!

Allow me to answer your question: Yes, I support our military men and women, both conservative and liberal. What I don't and won't support is the snarky bullshit you originally posted in this thread because it denigrates the effort of every person currently serving in our military.

I respect and thank you for your service, but I won't cede you the moral high ground because of it, nor will it be sufficient to earn my overall personal respect.

If you want to make some kind of point, then have the courtesy to say directly what it is you intend that we hear. Otherwise, kindly fuck right off. I've got friends who are still serving over there in Iraq and don't have the inclination to play rhetorical games on the matter.

Posted by: The Warden at May 30, 2006 01:10 PM (rkK3q)

41 Some worthless observations/comments:

- Michelle Malkin is hotter 'n a two-dollar pistol. Look at her pictures. That's what we're fightin' for, boys.

- Re GTL: go easy on him, you guys. I think he's basically okay. Really.

- I think The Walking Man was Randall Flagg in Stephen King's "The Stand." Might be wrong about that, though.

- I LIKE very large breast implants. Okay, that's a reference to one of yesterday's threads. But I thought it needed saying.

Carry on.

Posted by: Ed Snate at May 30, 2006 01:26 PM (/aWtz)

42 "never really bought the WMD's bullcrap"

How insightful of you. You're obviously much sharper then all your liberal friends who REALLY believed it as early as 1998. Of course, when they contracted BDS their memories went blank and now they talk just like you. Huh.

Posted by: BrewFan at May 30, 2006 01:33 PM (0AD+O)

43 The Warden:

Truce.

Ed Snate:

"I think The Walking Man was Randall Flagg in Stephen King's "The Stand." Might be wrong about that, though."

No, you nailed it. Randall Flagg was indeed The Walking Man.

Posted by: Gun Toting Liberal at May 30, 2006 01:41 PM (OKBoD)

44 GTL,

It was The Walking Dude

Posted by: BrewFan at May 30, 2006 01:50 PM (0AD+O)

45 Whitey Bulger has been at the top of the FBI's most wanted list for over a decade. His brother was a leading political and public education official for decades in MA. They haven't even had a reporting sighting of this guy since 2002.

Eric Rudolph, the Olympics bomber, spent over 4 years hiding from state and federal law enforcement officials in the woods of NC.

How about we lose the "blame Bush" crap because we can't locate one guy who is hiding in territory we are prohibited from entering which also happens to be under enemy control. Its a great sound bite but totally lame unless your point is Bush has no interest in capturing OBL and our troops and intelligence agencies are completely lame.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2006 01:51 PM (rnOZq)

46 GTL,

'Nuff said.

BTW, I'd be happy to have a non-trollish replacement for VonKreedon. Having a different point of view isn't necessarily a bad thing to have on this site.

Posted by: The Warden at May 30, 2006 01:54 PM (rkK3q)

47 Brewfan:

"You're obviously much sharper then all your liberal friends who REALLY believed it as early as 1998. Of course, when they contracted BDS their memories went blank and now they talk just like you. Huh."

Two things.

First, to clarify, I DID think Saddam had WMD's, I just never thought he intended to use them against us preemptively. I thought it was rhetoric, just like I mostly think about this stuff with Iran right now. I thought then, and I still think now, that the REAL reason for going in was because we had a third world extremist pulling the marionette strings an alarming number of western leaders.

Second, I'll repeat - I may be "Liberal" but I'm not a Democrat. Most of my "buddies" are also independents (small "I"). The Democratic Party has turned it's back upon "Red State" liberals at this time (guess we embarrass them), so until they claim us, I'm not claiming them either.

Posted by: Gun Toting Liberal at May 30, 2006 01:58 PM (OKBoD)

48 Brewfan: Sure it wasn't The Walking DOOD?

Jackstraw:

"... totally lame unless your point is Bush has no interest in capturing OBL..."

I think that pretty much effectively nails it. That's what he said after all. Pissed me off when I heard it, too.

The Warden:

Cool deal, Sir...

Posted by: Gun Toting Liberal at May 30, 2006 02:04 PM (OKBoD)

49 "First"

It doesn't matter if Saddam would have used them preemptively. It matters that he would gladly give them to AQ or anybody else who could use them without the finger being pointed at Iraq. My concern with Iran is exactly the same. I don't worry about them launching, I worry about them giving the f'ing things to people who have no such qualms.

"Second"

I didn't say 'your democrat friends', I said 'your liberal friends'. You identify yourself as liberal. If you don't like being called one change your nic. Maybe something like Gun Toting I Can't Make a Decision

Posted by: BrewFan at May 30, 2006 02:09 PM (0AD+O)

50 Brewfan:

I don't think we're gonna agree on the "first" at all. Fine with me. On the "second", good point - that IS what you said. Just read it the wrong way.

Posted by: Gun Toting Liberal at May 30, 2006 02:14 PM (OKBoD)

51 Tough room. Very tough. : )

Posted by: Ed Snate at May 30, 2006 02:15 PM (x8Vvg)

52 Come on, GTL. That's not what he said and you know it. He said that winning the war on terrorism was more important than capturing one man. He was trying to prevent the sort of tunnel vision that you are displaying. This war will not be over if OBL is captured tomorrow, though a good portion of the US would demand it. Bush is trying to keep people focused on the bigger picture.

I can't think of one American, save for a few of the nuts in ANSWER or one of the sister organizations, who wouldn't want OBL captured and punished and nobody more than Bush. Even if you look at it from a totally political approach, Bush stands to gain more from the capture of OBL than any person on the planet.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2006 02:19 PM (rnOZq)

53 A bit off-subject, but ...

Who, or what, was Randall Flagg?

I always thought that Stephen King modelled him on the biblical Nephilim. Like, in the opening chapters of the Book of Job, we're told that Satan and the "sons of man" approach God (concerning Job) after walking "to and fro" upon the earth, and "up and down." Or something like that. And son's of man is a rough translation of "Nephilim."

Posted by: Ed Snate at May 30, 2006 02:20 PM (x8Vvg)

54 Ed,

Hey, man, I'm not here to hold hands and babysit. GTL's got to come to the table with something.

I don't placate.

Posted by: BrewFan at May 30, 2006 02:21 PM (0AD+O)

55 Maybe OBL is one of the Nephilim.

(Back on-subject!)

Posted by: Ed Snate at May 30, 2006 02:22 PM (x8Vvg)

56 I think that pretty much effectively nails it. That's what he said after all.

But is that what he meant? We've got something like 10,000 troops deployed in Afghanistan trying to flush out Taliban and Al Qaeda members. This is noteworthy because their mission is *not* to stabilize Afghanistan, like the UN forces are supposed to do (and I believe the other US forces). They are trying to get a lead on Osama's whereabouts, while continuing to pressure the radical Islamists and hinder their attempts to reestablish their power base.

I don't regard the deployment of 10,000 troops as an expression of disinterest in capturing Osama.

Posted by: geoff at May 30, 2006 02:22 PM (nH1Ad)

57 BrewFan: LOL! You know I mostly agree with you. BTW, I particularly like what you said a few days ago about atheists. Very well said.

Posted by: Ed Snate at May 30, 2006 02:24 PM (x8Vvg)

58 Randall Flagg was Stephen King's personafication of evil. I think he is an amalgam as opposed to a metaphor for any particular evil being.

Posted by: BrewFan at May 30, 2006 02:25 PM (0AD+O)

59 Forget about the Nephilim; they're probably just neanderthals. Randall Flagg is actually that guy on the Johnny Walker whiskey bottle.

Posted by: sandy burger at May 30, 2006 02:29 PM (PQyeQ)

60 JackStraw:

"That's not what he said and you know it."

Sorry, but I don't know it. It struck my ears the way I heard it, and the way I expressed it here. Call it "blind tunnel vision" if you want, but yes, bringing OBL to justice is exactly what I want to see. I'm not a big fan of these "Wars" on "Terr'r", "Drugs", "Porn", and all of these other unwinnable, expensive (and perhaps even unconstitutional in many cases) "Wars". I'm more for making that bastard PAY for what he did, and yes, the sooner the better.

We're probably just not going to be agreeing on this one. I'm sure we agree on (treasonous lack of) border security though....

Ed Snate:

I thought The Walking DOOD was supposed to be satan himself, in the flesh, no?

Posted by: Gun Toting Liberal at May 30, 2006 02:32 PM (OKBoD)

61 "BTW, I particularly like what you said a few days ago about atheists."

Thanks, but I don't think they share your sentiments. For the record, I admire everybody here who has identified themselves as an atheist. They are all honorable, intelligent, and in lauraw's case beautiful people who I would be honored to have as friends.

Posted by: BrewFan at May 30, 2006 02:33 PM (0AD+O)

62 We may not agree on much, GTL, but yea, Randall Flagg was Satan.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2006 02:36 PM (rnOZq)

63 I seem to recall the black lady in "The Stand" saying that Flagg was an "Imp," which is a minion of Satan--or a personification of evil, if you like.

Me, I'm sticking with the original explanation concerning the Nephilim: they were the spawn of demonic creatures who had mated with human women. Okay, I know, that's magical thinking. But it shore [sic] is colorful!

Sandy: Neanderthals? Interesting. Possible. That was Crichton's explanation for the enemy in "Eaters of the Dead." Remember, in the 13th Warrior (the movie based on that novel--it was great!) the enemy warriors had unnatural upper body strength, like Neanderthals probably had, that enabled them to twist off the heads of their enemies by brute force. And they used atlatls not bows, which Neanderthals also used, because they had not achieved archery technology.

Concerning GTL: You know how some guys say they aren't gay and really believe but all their friends recognize that's he's gay but realize he just doesn't know it yet? That's kind of the deal with GTL: he's a conservative but just doesn't know it yet. What he needs is a few months in one of our conservative Cool Hand Luke "re-education" camps to get his mind right. You know, time spent on a road gang with Dragline, Babba-Loo-Guts and the rest of the gang, under the kindly supervision of Boss Godfrey ("The Man With No Eyes") should get him turned around real fast.

Posted by: Ed Snate at May 30, 2006 02:43 PM (/aWtz)

64 I just realized ... Boss Godfrey in "Cool Hand Luke" was also called "The Walking Boss."

Spooky!

Posted by: Ed Snate at May 30, 2006 02:46 PM (/aWtz)

65 The Crimson King was the power behind Flagg so thats why I don't think The Walking Dude was supposed to represent Satan.

Posted by: BrewFan at May 30, 2006 02:52 PM (0AD+O)

66 Bloggers should echo the MSM on this one just because we can say HA!! HA!! I say, and then do the Snoopy dance of victory 'cause we were right, the war is being won, and the MSM has only just now discovered it!

Again, HA!!

Posted by: exdem13 at May 30, 2006 02:52 PM (NRrvx)

67 "I admire everybody here who has identified themselves as an atheist."

BrewFan: Oh, I have nothing against atheists or atheism. Live and let live, it's okay with me. I meant that I liked that you said that to be an atheist required an act of faith that's much the same as the act of faith required of those who are religious. That is what you meant, right?

I'm a religion-type person because it seems to me that atheism is unreasonable, maybe irrational. That is, it seems more logical to me to be a believer than an atheist. Or something like that. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm not saying that atheists are wrong. I'm just saying what gets me through the night, what floats my boat--religion works for me. If it doesn't work for others, no worries. Certainly I'm not a hellfire-and-damnation type. Not at all. Heck, most of my friends are either atheists or very close to it. No big deal either way. Which is to say, I WILL placate on this one.

Posted by: Ed Snate at May 30, 2006 02:58 PM (/aWtz)

68 "That is what you meant, right?"

It is.

"I WILL placate on this one."

Me too

Posted by: BrewFan at May 30, 2006 03:04 PM (0AD+O)

69 Yeah, I don't think he was the "Walking dude" in all books, he was always the walking man, Randall Flagg, who was only named in "eyes of the dragon" and referenced in other books to depict the walking man as the wizard in eyes of the dragon, but it MIGHT have been dude, but I think Dude, was exclusively in "The Stand" he was also refrenced in the 3rd and successive books of "The Gunslinger/Dark Tower" series, and I think they alternated between "walking dude" and "walking man" not to mention the name of the original badguys name from "The Gunslinger" which I can't recall."

King is a hack, you think he follows a SINGLE rule of his own plot development? King only survives because he sucks LESS than people who try to mimic him.

FUCKER, his best shit is completely ignored, like "The Long Walk" ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT! and "Running Man" but ask King about his greatest accomplishments? and he will say the very books that made him a near quitillionaire.

OH! and "thinner" I loved thinner.

But all of those books were written when he couldn't hier a stripper to fuck his wife so he could feel massive each night, cuz he was broke.

"honey you are so HOT!" (after the stripper just pulled his cock from her poot) "Baby? your book is just so. . . SENSUAL!" note his books got more sexified after the bachs, when in fact, he was just dipping his little dick into sloppy seconds.

OH!, OH! OH! OH! OH! OH KAY! sorry.

I don't have a publishing contract, and I don't have the small bit of discipline king has, but king has gotten worse everyday because he realized he would NEVER be edited.

I was over the top, but REALLY!?

Anyways, EVERYONE creates a bogeyman, 2 of the most popular fantasy novel series floating around right now have bogeymen.

Robert Jordan has his "moridin" and George R.R. Martin isn't buiding up a bogey man, rather he is building up BOTH a bogeyman and a saviour at the same time.

Anyone who doesn't think that Jon Snow is NOT the heir of the Targaryens, born of whatsisfaces sister, is stupid. and anyone who doesn't think that daenaris isn't directly related to Snow, and destined to be the Bride of her relation as a Targaryen, is tarded, EVEN MORE SO, anyone who doesn't think that Bran al "whatever" isn't the re-incarnation of "Bran the Builder" really has to introduce themselves to Poe, Shakespeare, lovecraft and every other author who creates a "forshadowing" plot point.

Sorry, I'm pissed that George can't release all his books at once. Robert Jordan is boring me, cuz he really hasn't written a book in 4 8 years. I LOVE Herbert though. He wrote them all within. . . Well fuck me. . . .4 years.

Posted by: Wickedpinto at May 30, 2006 03:11 PM (QTv8u)

70 Guess we're not going to score any popularity points with Chris "I-don't-placate" Klein. *Sigh*

Posted by: Ed Snate at May 30, 2006 03:13 PM (/aWtz)

71 Wickedpinto:

Okay, run that all by me again. And no fair using your note cards. : )

Posted by: Ed Snate at May 30, 2006 03:18 PM (/aWtz)

72 FUCKER, his best shit is completely ignored, like "The Long Walk" ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT! and "Running Man" but ask King about his greatest accomplishments? and he will say the very books that made him a near quitillionaire.

What he said.

Posted by: The Warden at May 30, 2006 03:26 PM (cMMJ/)

73 Ed Snate:

"Concerning GTL:

You know how some guys say they aren't gay and really believe but all their friends recognize that's he's gay but realize he just doesn't know it yet? That's kind of the deal with GTL: he's a conservative but just doesn't know it yet. "


LMFAO!!!!!!!!!! That's some funny shit! Perhaps the definition of "conservative" has changed? Somebody called a "neocon" once in the same post where I got blasted as a "moonbat" and a "radical leftist". This thread reminds me of that time.

"What he needs is a few months in one of our conservative Cool Hand Luke "re-education" camps to get his mind right. You know, time spent on a road gang with Dragline, Babba-Loo-Guts and the rest of the gang, under the kindly supervision of Boss Godfrey ("The Man With No Eyes") should get him turned around real fast."

Uhmmm... how about a "re-education" camp under the "kindly supervision" of Ms. Malkin... I might be able to handle that for a few if the conversation stayed off of politics... at least for a few minutes ;-)

Posted by: Gun Toting Liberal at May 30, 2006 03:29 PM (OKBoD)

74 "The Stand" is the only King book I've read. I don't know squat about the rest of his stuff. I read "The Stand" because I actually lived on Arapahoe Avenue in Boulder, where some of the novel takes place. Also I love end-of-the-world apocalypse novels, which somehow seems appropriate to living on Arapahoe Ave in Boulder, don't ask me why.

Posted by: at May 30, 2006 03:36 PM (/aWtz)

75 The Stand is the shit. Buy and read the extended, uncut version.
I like how he sometimes hints at it in the gunfighter books. Sort of like how he meshes Apt Pupil and Shawshank.

Uh, so yeah, I guess GTL is ok, if he thinks Malkin is hot. Plus, cobra commander looks like a total guido under his hood. He used to be a used car salesman.

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 30, 2006 06:25 PM (AYeVR)

76 "You are a doody head. And you probably think Michelle Malkin is ugly."

ohmygod, that's funny. I'm gonna have to store that away and use it some day.

Posted by: ArmedGeek at May 31, 2006 12:41 AM (vjHOi)

77 Wickedpinto,

Re: Stephen King

You're so full of shit your eyes are brown.

Posted by: BrewFan at May 31, 2006 01:01 AM (0AD+O)

78 When I read The Stand, I remember thinking there was no way anybody could ever create a good movie out of the book, and I was correct; it took a mini-series, which was quite well done IMO.

And yes, Malkin's hot - when her mouth is closed ;-)

Posted by: Gun Toting Liberal at May 31, 2006 04:49 AM (OKBoD)

79 The only issue I had with the television adaptation of "The Stand" was in the casting. I just didn't buy Molly Ringwald as Fran Goldsmith.

Gary Sinise as Stu Redman, though, was perfect.

Posted by: Slublog at May 31, 2006 06:06 AM (R8+nJ)

80 Where IS Osama? I guess there is one brown person in the world safe from the Chimperor and his fascist Halliburton minions.

Posted by: Zizz at May 31, 2006 08:53 AM (RA6xj)

81 Osama is doing your mom.

Posted by: at May 31, 2006 09:59 AM (gf5iT)

82 ...believe that by just wanting it badly enough, he'll be captured.

Clinton had 8 years and drew a blank...and that was with people offering to hand him over.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at May 31, 2006 01:30 PM (gf5iT)

83 Suggest someone make film showing American small arms ammo being run through vat of hogs blood. I'm not sure the emenmy remembers Black Jack Pershing.

Posted by: Linda Douglas at June 13, 2006 07:22 AM (kHd+T)

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