January 29, 2016

Tucker Carlson: Trump Is Shocking, Vulgar, and Right
— Ace

I saw this yesterday but didn't put it up because it's so persuasive people will take my linking it as an actual endorsement.

I'm not endorsing Trump by posting this. But it's a hell of a piece.

Posted by: Ace at 09:38 AM | Comments (531)
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1 /nod

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 09:38 AM (qCMvj)

2 Heard about this...

Posted by: HH at January 29, 2016 09:39 AM (DrCtv)

3 The comments are full of hate and vile

Posted by: kerncon at January 29, 2016 09:40 AM (hvnt7)

4 Agreed. Tucker isn't endorsing him either, just laying out why he thinks Trump is ruling the roost (for now anyway). You don't have to endorse Trump to agree with the points he makes.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2016 09:40 AM (4ErVI)

5 The comments are full of hate and vile Posted by: kerncon at January 29, 2016 02:40 PM (hvnt7) it's Politico the imploding machine

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 09:41 AM (qCMvj)

6 Like Michael Barone earlier he is grabbing his compatriots by the lapels, shaking them, and shouting "Will you please wake up already?" Whether they will do so is in God's hands.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 09:41 AM (hLRSq)

7 I'm not endorsing anyone.I feel like we are thoroughly fucked regardless of who wins the WH next time around.Everything will get flushed down the shitter quicker if a Dem wins though.

Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2016 09:41 AM (8HTq1)

8 Read this article this morning and I thought it was really pretty good.   Especially how Trump trolled  Tucker.... before that was a thing.  Heh

Posted by: Yip und 2 Corinthians at January 29, 2016 09:41 AM (e7T6D)

9 Who cares if he is vulgar and shocking so long as he can get get the job done.

Posted by: Our Country Is Screwed at January 29, 2016 09:41 AM (jxbfJ)

10 Tucker is a putz

Posted by: MrKnowItAll at January 29, 2016 09:41 AM (egzLR)

11 Read it this morning. Recommended. We're going to have to unite behind someone at some point in time or the establishment is going to screw us. Again.

Posted by: zika bearing mosquito at January 29, 2016 09:41 AM (fbovC)

12 I'm not endorsing Trump by posting this. But it's a hell of a piece. Posted by: Ace at 02:38 PM ----- Tucker absolutely crushed it with this article. I've not seen a better analysis of the Trump phenomenon than this.

Posted by: WisRich at January 29, 2016 09:41 AM (hdpay)

13 Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump bit.ly/1PZ2jdD

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 09:41 AM (xuouz)

14 I'm not wearing a bowtie.  You can't make me, you're not the boss of me!

Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2016 09:41 AM (TOk1P)

15 Not attacking Trump is the equivalent of a Trump endorsement as far as the Rubi-trolls are concerned. And they're very concerned.

Posted by: mugiwara at January 29, 2016 09:42 AM (kNAwf)

16 Why is Carlson writing for Politico?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 09:42 AM (iQIUe)

17 But it's a hell of a piece.  

yeah , yeah... I get that ALL the time

Posted by: Harpy Mattress Girl at January 29, 2016 09:42 AM (e7T6D)

18
Max Landis

TRUMP IS THE FACE OF THE DARK UNDERBELLY OF A HUMANITY THAT CANNOT SEE ITSELF CLEARLY

HE IS A THOUSAND YEAR MAGGOT

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 29, 2016 09:42 AM (kdS6q)

19 My husband had to wear a bowtie at an event recently. Required. He had to look up how to tie them, lol.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 09:42 AM (qCMvj)

20 I won't endorse Trump But I will endorse the hell out of his wife

Posted by: Navycopjoe aka the token Dem at January 29, 2016 09:43 AM (zc1AC)

21 Tucker's a douchebag. But I see where he's coming from.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 09:43 AM (zLP1L)

22 Tucker Carlson. meh A fart in a tornado of farts.

Posted by: eleven at January 29, 2016 09:43 AM (qUNWi)

23 I think he stole some of Ace's arguments in the Anti-Rubio piece and should have acknowledged his source.

Posted by: Amy Shumer at January 29, 2016 09:43 AM (TxJGV)

24 Very good piece, but honestly, you've been making the same points for I don't know how long. It's validation that there are at least others that "get it", I suppose. Not kissing ass - just stating that you are and have been right in your assessment of root cause.

Posted by: Brad (not the car) at January 29, 2016 09:43 AM (loVRi)

25 Tucker Carlson. meh A fart in a tornado of farts. Posted by: eleven at January 29, 2016 02:43 PM (qUNWi) But he does have gorgeous hair!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 09:43 AM (qCMvj)

26 But it's a hell of a piece.


They told me this before my scenes with Leonardo...  I had no idea.  They were right...

Posted by: Rapey Bear... famous! at January 29, 2016 09:44 AM (e7T6D)

27 Read the piece earlier today, it seemed pretty good. I have always thought Tucker Carlson a twit but he is right on here. I am not a big fan of Trump but he doesn't verbally cripple himself with political correctness.

Posted by: Drew in MO at January 29, 2016 09:44 AM (cGlgB)

28 19 Why not just get a clip on?Or one of those with a little motor so he could make it spin.

Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2016 09:44 AM (8HTq1)

29 Unlike TFG Who is shocking vulgar and wrong

Posted by: MrKnowItAll at January 29, 2016 09:44 AM (egzLR)

30 My husband had to wear a bowtie at an event recently. Required.

He had to look up how to tie them, lol.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:42 PM (qCMvj)



If I ever attend an event where I HAVE  to wear a bowtie, I'm going  clip-on.  Not even remotely kidding. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2016 09:44 AM (TOk1P)

31 Why not just get a clip on?Or one of those with a little motor so he could make it spin. Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2016 02:44 PM (8HTq1) around 5-star Generals? heh. Not going to happen.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 09:45 AM (qCMvj)

32 9 Who cares if he is vulgar and shocking so long as he can get get the job done. Posted by: Our Country Is Screwed at January 29, 2016 02:41 PM (jxbfJ) And that my friend is the $200 trillion dollar question.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 09:45 AM (zLP1L)

33 The Washington bubble is real and it's spectacular (to the ones inside it)! --Tucker Carlson

Posted by: WisRich at January 29, 2016 09:45 AM (hdpay)

34 Yep, excellent article by Carlson. Still think Trump would make a poor president, and I suspect Carlson feels the same way. Yet, Trump's hair >> Felonious cankles

Posted by: chique testing testing at January 29, 2016 09:45 AM (uz/Pv)

35 Trump has literally been on both sides of every issue so, yeah, he's made some good points.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 29, 2016 09:45 AM (1RNgT)

36 *4-star...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 09:45 AM (qCMvj)

37 Months and months ago I remember Ace saying Trump was created by GOPe and it's their problem to fix. Of course, like everything else they can't fix it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2016 09:45 AM (4ErVI)

38 I think we all need to wake up and realize its no longer Democrat vs. Republicans, its become Globalist vs. Nationalist and the globalists are running both parties and fucking us all good and hard.

Posted by: Drew in MO at January 29, 2016 09:46 AM (cGlgB)

39 Heh heh...  the Sigfried line was the shitz back in the day, no?   Hell yes it was!

Posted by: Zee Germans at January 29, 2016 09:46 AM (e7T6D)

40 Trump WILL MAKE SHOCKING AND VULGAR GREAT AGAIN!

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 29, 2016 09:46 AM (RcpcZ)

41 Saunters in.... *drops stacks of rifles saunters out

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 29, 2016 09:46 AM (fWAjv)

42 Geaux Trump 2016!

Posted by: ChocoCheese at January 29, 2016 09:46 AM (OvUux)

43 He's dumb about the Born Again bit, missing the entire 8 years of the Bush presidency (especially compared to the vicious hostility toward Christians now), but its not a bad article. The problem is that Trump isn't right, he's saying many right things. And wrong. And indifferent. And whatever rolls off his tongue at the time.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 09:46 AM (39g3+)

44 Being shocking and vulgar was kind of an All-American Thing until the Let's Be More Like Europe crowd got far enough with marching through our institutions. There were a ton of good reasons my ancestors left Europe and this has never made any sense to me.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 29, 2016 09:47 AM (Z8DIA)

45 "But it's a hell of a piece."

That it is.

Posted by: rebel flounder at January 29, 2016 09:47 AM (3dOE/)

46 Trump Is Shocking, Vulgar, and Right

Posted by: Amy Schumer at January 29, 2016 09:47 AM (OD2ni)

47 I consider it one of my (quite few) failings of manhood that I can't yet tie a bow tie.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 09:47 AM (1xUj/)

48 37 Months and months ago I remember Ace saying Trump was created by GOPe and it's their problem to fix. Of course, like everything else they can't fix it. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2016 02:45 PM (4ErVI) The GOP-e can no more change itself than a leopard can change its spots. It is what it is. Malignant, anti-American and a criminal enterprise.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 09:47 AM (zLP1L)

49 But what about bear sex? Where does Tucker fall on that issue?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 09:47 AM (iQIUe)

50 It's an excellent write-up. Finally, a scant few of the ass-hats in D.C. are waking up to reality.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 29, 2016 09:47 AM (LA7Cm)

51 *4-star...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:45 PM (qCMvj)



That's better.

Posted by: Zombies Ike and Douglas at January 29, 2016 09:47 AM (TOk1P)

52 It IS a good piece. News is too depressing lately. I'm grabbing a beer and going outside to throw sticks for the dog, who happens to be named for the boyish Mr. Carlson.* *I can't conform this, as I didn't name him, but it has always been my suspicion.

Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 09:48 AM (fSuK4)

53 fucking us all good and hard.
Posted by: Drew in MO


Pls...   call me

Posted by: Democrats pajama boy with smallish hands at January 29, 2016 09:48 AM (e7T6D)

54 I have a feeling if there's an event requiring a bow tie, it's going to be all male with lots of show tunes. Pass.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2016 09:48 AM (4ErVI)

55 Months and months ago I remember Ace saying Trump was created by GOPe and it's their problem to fix. Of course, like everything else they can't fix it. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2016 02:45 PM (4ErVI) I think this was obvious to anyone with a brain that wasn't trapped in the establishment bubble.

Posted by: chique testing testing at January 29, 2016 09:48 AM (uz/Pv)

56 >>>>>On my street in Northwest Washington, D.C.,
.
.
.That more than anything created the Trump bomb.  D.C. elites insulate themselves from the rest of the Country and then they get all upset when their world view gets challenged. 

We don't like cry babies. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 29, 2016 09:48 AM (iONHu)

57 I consider it one of my (quite few) failings of manhood that I can't yet tie a bow tie. Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 02:47 PM (1xUj/) thank goodness for the internet!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 09:48 AM (qCMvj)

58 48 But you should see the other guys! The GOP

Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2016 09:48 AM (8HTq1)

59 artisanal sent Ace this. My bet

Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 09:48 AM (2x3L+)

60 If I ever attend an event where I HAVE to wear a bowtie... I'm staying home.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 09:48 AM (39g3+)

61 This, I think, is the takeaway: "He Exists Because You Failed"

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 09:49 AM (1xUj/)

62 My head's already fucking killing me, so I think I'll check out of this thread early. Since the "T" word applies, the recriminations and spittle-flecked lunatic ravings are sure to follow.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 29, 2016 09:49 AM (kpqmD)

63 47 I consider it one of my (quite few) failings of manhood that I can't yet tie a bow tie. Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 02:47 PM (1xUj/) Real men don't wear bow ties. Except with tuxedos.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 09:49 AM (s5o+q)

64 The form of the  Destructor has been chosen.

Posted by: Mortimer[/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 09:49 AM (R1a9g)

65 Months and months ago I remember Ace saying Trump was created by GOPe and it's their problem to fix. Of course, like everything else they can't fix it. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2016 02:45 PM (4ErVI) I think this was obvious to anyone with a brain that wasn't trapped in the establishment bubble. Posted by: chique testing testing at January 29, 2016 02:48 PM (uz/Pv) Tucker even admits in the article, he didn't see everything so clearly. When you are at the upper echelon, you stay there. How could they possibly know?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 09:49 AM (qCMvj)

66 41 Saunters in....

*drops stacks of rifles

saunters out

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 29, 2016 02:46 PM (fWAjv)


I call dibs on anything chambered in .338 Lapua.

Posted by: Our Country Is Screwed at January 29, 2016 09:50 AM (jxbfJ)

67 Tucker is a racist!

Posted by: RB Pundit at January 29, 2016 09:50 AM (OD2ni)

68 It's more words and more fleshing out to what I mean every time I say "Donald Trump is the GOP's self-inflicted wound". Remember what I said when I first hailed Mr. Classyhair? "Because the f***ers have it coming"? It remains as true now as it was then. Donald Trump is the candidate the GOP deserves, just not the one it needs right now.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 29, 2016 09:50 AM (9krrF)

69 61 This, I think, is the takeaway: "He Exists Because You Failed" Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 02:49 PM (1xUj/) You could say that theoretically about Cruz or Carson, no?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 09:50 AM (zLP1L)

70 Except with tuxedos. Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 02:49 PM (s5o+q) yep

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 09:50 AM (qCMvj)

71 62 I am in control of my spittle,sir!

Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2016 09:50 AM (8HTq1)

72 If I ever attend an event where I HAVE to wear a bowtie...
-----------------
I'm staying home.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:48 PM (39g3+)



Yeah, probably.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2016 09:50 AM (TOk1P)

73 Trump is in part a reaction to the intellectual corruption of the Republican Party. That ought to be obvious to his critics, yet somehow it isn't. Or perhaps it is obvious to the Trump haters, that he exposes them for their corruption, and that's why they hate him It's impossible to know what lurks in the hearts of men. Only the Shadow knows!

Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 29, 2016 09:50 AM (BrgUe)

74 Of course its right. Trump gets waaaaaay more pussy than a guy named "Tucker." Just look at all that gold on his buildings. It screams classy panty dropper. Meanwhile Tucker wears a bowtie, modern man's chastity belt.

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 29, 2016 09:50 AM (t06LC)

75 I can imagine being swept up by the Beltway scene is incredibly intoxicating. Fame is stronger than Heroin.

Posted by: eleven at January 29, 2016 09:50 AM (qUNWi)

76 If I ever attend an event where I HAVE to wear a bowtie, I'm going clip-on. Not even remotely kidding. >>>

My Mother used to have us wear clip on bow ties for church when I was a boy. Of course this was back in he day when people dressed up for church. And with 5 boys in the family non clip on ties would have reduced how many of us made it home.


Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 29, 2016 09:50 AM (XtAzU)

77 Later. Off to market to buy a fat kosher pig.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 09:50 AM (zLP1L)

78 Carlson is 95% on. He seems to brush off all dislike of Trump on classism though. But I don't live in DC and in November I hunt with plumbers and construction guys. I'm more of a target person, than Walmart but you get the idea. I still don't particularly like Trump. Having said that while I think we won't be the nominee, I concede there's a good probability he could. And I think there's an equally good chance he could schlong Hillary in the general.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at January 29, 2016 09:51 AM (tM4uk)

79 "He Exists Because You Failed" Yes, I cannot disagree.

Posted by: no good deed at January 29, 2016 09:51 AM (GgxVX)

80 Rifles are too accurate for me. I'm going to require a flamethrower.

Posted by: Buzzion at January 29, 2016 09:51 AM (z/Ubi)

81 37 Months and months ago I remember Ace saying Trump was created by GOPe and it's their problem to fix. Of course, like everything else they can't fix it. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2016 02:45 PM (4ErVI) Ace has been on it from the beginning. This isn't what we wanted but what we wanted turns out to have been the lies of a nymphomaniacally cheating bitch in a red dress all along. What it is is a change, and a change which will hurt the fops and con men in Washington more than and before it hurts the average American. It's a change which does not fall within the trajectory of socialism, which is like hitting green on a roulette table at this point. At the very least, it would break up the monotony of "socialists win! Obama shoots 16 holes in one! Republicans unable to hold their 18 point 4th quarter lead despite their usually reliable defense, again!" stories four times a day, every day.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 09:51 AM (xuouz)

82 I have no idea who Tucker Carson is,-probbaly because I never watched news programs to begin with-except for PBS or BBC and haven't watched any for several years. So, my question is, Is he gay? Is that what the comment "I get more p*** than you do? means or does it instead mean Trump is such a thin skinned man that some crack about his hair sets him off or both?l And yes, Mr. Trump your hair is a a little weird and you get entirely more p*** than I've ever gotten. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2016 09:51 AM (w4NZ8)

83 Carlson hit many good points. And I stand by what I have said many times before. If watching the GOP burn means more to you than the Republic, then Trump's your guy. If you think the Rule of Law and the Constitution still matter, as I do, then you should be all in for Cruz. And if you like the status quo, Jeb is there for you.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at January 29, 2016 09:51 AM (iH2E6)

84 33 The Washington bubble is real and it's spectacular (to the ones inside it)!

--Tucker Carlson
Posted by: WisRich at January 29, 2016 02:45 PM (hdpay)



Anybody recall the excess in the depictions of the Capital in Huger Games when reading this?

Posted by: rebel flounder at January 29, 2016 09:51 AM (3dOE/)

85 I really do not care if Carlson is a putz, or a douche, or a weenie, or a bow-tied four-eyed momma's boy bed-wetting sissy pants. He's right, and putting that out there in Politico (an enemy camp, as it were) is telling. Now, when some port side pundit explains clearly why Sanders is making ground and places the blame on the same shallow self-dealing time-serving hacks the ride the merry-g-round between NGO-admin agency-congressional staff then you will really know that establishment is frightened to the soles of their tassel loafers.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 09:51 AM (hLRSq)

86 It may be a good analysis, but Tucker Carlson isn't actually influential. The Daily Caller website sucks. It is barely readable. This place with its archaic software runs better than that POS

Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 09:51 AM (2x3L+)

87 41 Saunters in.... *drops stacks of rifles saunters out Posted by: RWC --------------- Heh. Care to join me for a beer, And maybe a bonfire? You bring the popcorn.

Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 09:52 AM (fSuK4)

88 Why is Carlson writing for Politico?

To get a paycheck?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 29, 2016 09:52 AM (4WhSY)

89 artisanal sent Ace this. My bet Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 02:48 PM (2x3L+) nah, I've never sent Ace anything, only CBD for the food thread Ace said he saw this yesterday.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 09:52 AM (qCMvj)

90 Meanwhile Tucker wears a bowtie, modern man's chastity belt. Posted by: Jollyroger at January 29, 2016 02:50 PM (t06LC) Haaaahaha

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 09:52 AM (xuouz)

91 OT RIP Col. Worsley http://bit.ly/1OV2YyU

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 09:52 AM (8Vn+p)

92 Very good piece, but honestly, you've been making the same points for I don't know how long. It's validation that there are at least others that "get it", I suppose. Not kissing ass - just stating that you are and have been right in your assessment of root cause. Posted by: Brad (not the car) I agree and I am kissing ass. What do I win?

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 29, 2016 09:52 AM (326rv)

93 Why is Carlson writing for Politico? To get a paycheck? Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 29, 2016 02:52 PM (4WhSY) Maybe the Daily Caller is going to buy out the imploding blog?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 09:52 AM (qCMvj)

94 Politico may be on its deathbed, https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2016/01/28/politico-implodes/

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 09:53 AM (1xUj/)

95 Right on Tucker about the GOP. I miss the days when Tucker wore the bowtie and fought Michael "Pussy" Kinsley on Crossfire. Miss Bob Novak as well.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 09:53 AM (voOPb)

96 I consider it one of my (quite few) failings of manhood that I can't yet tie a bow tie. Protip: All bow ties are clip-ons, pre-tied in Bangladesh and imported at the expense of American workers. The last legit bow tie was made sometime in 1983 and probably buried with Sen. Paul Simon (D-IL).

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 29, 2016 09:53 AM (9krrF)

97 On the bright side, Los Angeles has decided to rename one of their streets Vin Scully Avenue. The man should have a statue out front of Dodgers Stadium, too.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 09:53 AM (39g3+)

98 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 02:47 PM (zLP1L) The GOP is exactly what you'd expect from the Iron law of bureaucracy. Parties that are ostensibly based on liberty need some cleaning out every now and then. (Since the dems are openly based on power they don't have that problem.)

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at January 29, 2016 09:53 AM (tM4uk)

99 I'm not endorsing Trump by posting this. But it's a hell of a piece. I am at my wit's end about the inability of people to comprehend that analyzing a matter is not even remotely the same as endorsing it. One of the hallmarks of an intelligent mind is the ability to explicate, carefully and clearly, a position with which one disagrees. Furthermore, it is imperative that one be able to analyze matters as they are, not as one wishes them to be. Thus, noting x y and z about whatever should not even remotely give rise to the instantaneous assumption that said notation equals endorsement or acceptance of the matter. I can set out why Bernie Sanders has appeal to younger voters. I can explain why Hillary Clinton's because vagina resonates with a certain subset of women of a certain age. By no means should that be taken as meaning I, personally, comprehend that appeal. Frankly, many people have revealed some very telling, to say nothing of ugly, aspects of their intellectual capacity and reading comprehension. Think about this, Horde. The owner of this blog was hesitant to link to an article on his own blog because of concerns that the mere linking and notation that it was well done would be taken as something more than it it. Yeah. Yeah, that says something and it's nothing good.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 29, 2016 09:53 AM (mf5HN)

100 63 47 I consider it one of my (quite few) failings of manhood that I can't yet tie a bow tie. Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 02:47 PM (1xUj/) Real men don't wear bow ties. Except with tuxedos. Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 02:49 PM (s5o+q) This. I do own a bow tie. If worn with a tux (which I also own) it is classy, sophisticated, and cool. A bow tie should never be worn without a tux however. WWJBD

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 29, 2016 09:53 AM (t06LC)

101 It may be a good analysis, but Tucker Carlson isn't actually influential. The Daily Caller website sucks. It is barely readable. This place with its archaic software runs better than that POS Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 02:51 PM (2x3L+) Tucker makes his rounds though. He's all over the cable channels, various shows.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 09:54 AM (qCMvj)

102 I agree and I am kissing ass. What do I win? Posted by: Blue Hen at January 29, 2016 02:52 PM (326rv) Cardboard Membership

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 09:54 AM (voOPb)

103 "Months and months ago I remember Ace saying Trump was created by GOPe and it's their problem to fix. Of course, like everything else they can't fix it."

An observation originally from John Schindler: the Republican establishment completely ignored white working class voters for decades.

Then someone came along and neatly tailored a pitch to those voters and immediately vaulted to the head of the pack. Oh no! Panic in the establishment ranks!

So, then, what did the GOP establishment do? Realize and admit their previous error? Change course themselves? Of course not.

Instead the establishment redoubled their efforts on the same policies which had alienated those voters in the first place, while loudly telling those voters that they're hopeless rubes and useless fools for backing this newly emergent figure. Yeah, that'll end well.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 09:54 AM (noWW6)

104 Some people seem to think if you say enough bad things about Trump his supports will suddenly go "What was I thinking??? I should vote for Rubio instead!"

Posted by: Flaccid Member at January 29, 2016 09:54 AM (5fSr7)

105 Anybody recall the excess in the depictions of the Capital in Hunger Games when reading this?
Posted by: rebel flounder



Absolutely.

The popularity of that movie franchise should have been a warning bell to DC.

Posted by: Mortimer[/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 09:54 AM (R1a9g)

106 >>>Why is Carlson writing for Politico? To get a paycheck? ... more exposure. Plus, Politico is 'mainstream," meaning, of course, liberal, which is then taken to mean "centrist."

Posted by: ace at January 29, 2016 09:54 AM (dciA+)

107 Global socialism, enabled by slavish devotion to our animal appetites, the acceptance of credentialism as the font of power, having had confidence in our own judgment hammered out of us, and the resulting apathy. We're Americans, we're supposed to be unbearable. And we will be under president Trump.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 09:55 AM (xuouz)

108 also i'm not sure carlson wants to write such a piece for his own (formally) neutral Daily Caller

Posted by: ace at January 29, 2016 09:55 AM (dciA+)

109 Tucker needs a haircut and a fashion intervention from a pair of gay guys and an old Jewish tailor. That said, he analyzes things correctly. Trump is the clap to the GOP's slutty chick.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 29, 2016 09:55 AM (RD7QR)

110 "This place with its archaic software runs better than that POS"

Perhaps pixy could loan them a few hamsters.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 09:55 AM (noWW6)

111 Anybody recall the excess in the depictions of the Capital in Hunger Games when reading this? Posted by: rebel flounder Absolutely. The popularity of that movie franchise should have been a warning bell to DC. Posted by: Mortimer District 13 is fed up. If we burn, you burn with us!

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 09:55 AM (SAhpk)

112 (Did I insult enough people with that last comment? I could fit in Catholics too if you want.)

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 29, 2016 09:56 AM (RD7QR)

113 And I stand by what I have said many times before. If watching the GOP burn means more to you than the Republic, then Trump's your guy. The thing is, Cruz makes the GOP establishment burn too, but he's at least less distasteful and trustworthy than Trump. Everything bad Cruz is accused of, Trump is 19 times more (other than being a lawyer and he makes up for it by being a real estate developer). But the establishment hates, hates, hates Cruz. A big win by him crushes them.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 09:56 AM (39g3+)

114 Mark Steyn makes a similar point. Real people are ignoring or abandoning the "conservative movement" for Trump because despite decades of existence it hasn't actually "moved" anything. http://tinyurl.com/zd98kwh

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 29, 2016 09:56 AM (8ZskC)

115 Think about this, Horde. The owner of this blog was hesitant to link to an article on his own blog because of concerns that the mere linking and notation that it was well done would be taken as something more than it it. Yeah. Yeah, that says something and it's nothing good. Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 29, 2016 02:53 PM I welcome the logic of the Mistress of the Ravage. May Death come swiftly to her enemies--but not too swiftly.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at January 29, 2016 09:56 AM (iH2E6)

116 " If watching the GOP burn means more to you than the Republic, then Trump's your guy. If you think the Rule of Law and the Constitution still matter, as I do, then you should be all in for Cruz. " The Sec of State was peddling national security secrets willy-nilly for years and not one goddamn thing is going to be done about it. Nothing. Does sound like the rule of law to you?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 29, 2016 09:56 AM (LA7Cm)

117 "Of the Republicans now running, Trump likely has the best chance to beat Hillary Clinton, for two reasons:

First, he's the only Republican who can meaningfully expand the pie. [snip] But the main reason Trump could win is because he's the only candidate hard enough to call Hillary's bluff." (from the Tucker Carlson piece)


That's pretty much the way I see it. Only Cruz or Trump could get my vote, but I think the MSM would destroy Cruz or any of the RINOs in the general election and I would rather win with Trump than lose with Cruz.

Posted by: cool breeze at January 29, 2016 09:56 AM (ckvus)

118 here's a song that fits the theme: http://bit.ly/1WA2sYr gold

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 09:56 AM (8Vn+p)

119 400 freaking years!

Posted by: Yip und 2 corinthians at January 29, 2016 09:56 AM (e7T6D)

120 Tucker Carlson = Abso-friggin'-lutely RIGHT!

Posted by: Pastorius at January 29, 2016 09:57 AM (gMAUH)

121 Hillary is handing her snapchat account over to Bill today. This will end in tears and pictures of Bill's withered blue wang.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 09:57 AM (39g3+)

122 Conservatives don't argue over whether Weaselhead is right. We argue over whether he is playing us for fools or not. I say he is.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 09:57 AM (xWW96)

123 Of course its right. Trump gets waaaaaay more pussy than a guy named "Tucker." Just look at all that gold on his buildings. It screams classy panty dropper. Meanwhile Tucker wears a bowtie, modern man's chastity belt. Posted by: Jollyroger at January 29, 2016 02:50 PM (t06LC) Of course they were both married with kids at the time...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 09:57 AM (qCMvj)

124 >>>> I am at my wit's end about the inability of people to comprehend that analyzing a matter is not even remotely the same as endorsing it. ---- Same here. If you say anything that resembles praise or endorsement of Trump here, you get called all kinds of stupid. It's okay. I've gotten used to it and can deal.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 09:57 AM (2x3L+)

125 I can't stand Trump and wouldn't vote for him if you put a gun to my head, but this article is spot on, it's amazing to look around conservative twitter and marvel at their lack of self awareness, they're grasping at anything, putting out fallacies that are laughable and denigrating American workers all because they just can't bring themselves to admit they're wrong and got played for fools by the donor class and the pols they elected, it's gonna be fun watching reality kick them in their ass.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at January 29, 2016 09:58 AM (yq2eR)

126 Think about this, Horde. The owner of this blog was hesitant to link to an article on his own blog because of concerns that the mere linking and notation that it was well done would be taken as something more than it it. Yeah. Yeah, that says something and it's nothing good. Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD *lays down Hosannas and says palm fronds before Her Malevolence*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 09:58 AM (1xUj/)

127 FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2016 02:51 PM Trump's voice mail reply to Tucker. It's those New York Values. When someone zings you, you zing'm back twice as hard, and usually with some F-bombs or something equally profane. It's the New York Way.

Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 29, 2016 09:58 AM (BrgUe)

128 [Blind Gossip] This musician is furious that his private preferences in the bedroom are being disclosed. Well, here's a little bit more about his preferences. [His ex] isn't telling the story exactly right. When he is with a woman, he doesn't like A finger. You have to use TWO fingers crossed over with a little lube. He also likes this one particular butt plug that has a vibrating bullet. He also likes dild*s but they can't be too big because he doesn't want to get stretched out. If he is with a guy, he doesn't need any of this stuff. ============ Crude but funny. Are rappers musicians? That seems a stretch. But the idiot DM is going nuts posting all these twitter flame wars between the dregs but very rich of society.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 09:58 AM (iQIUe)

129 Global socialism, enabled by slavish devotion to our animal appetites, the acceptance of credentialism as the font of power, having had confidence in our own judgment hammered out of us, and the resulting apathy. We're Americans, we're supposed to be unbearable. And we will be under president Trump. Still won't be walking as tall as Texans. But close.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 09:58 AM (SAhpk)

130 The GOP is exactly what you'd expect from the Iron law of bureaucracy. Parties that are ostensibly based on liberty need some cleaning out every now and then. (Since the dems are openly based on power they don't have that problem.) Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at January 29, 2016 02:53 PM (tM4uk) Reminds of that line about things starting as crusades and ending as rackets. "Ye Olde Conservatives, LLC."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 09:58 AM (hLRSq)

131 Hillary is handing her snapchat account over to Bill today. This will end in tears and pictures of Bill's withered blue wang.>>>

They better confiscate his phone before he boards the plane to pedo island.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 29, 2016 09:58 AM (XtAzU)

132 Cardboard membership....  the newsletter... would we still get that?

Posted by: Yip und 2 corinthians at January 29, 2016 09:58 AM (e7T6D)

133 Trump seems unserious because we've internalized bullshit into our daily routines. He's said what he's going to do. "I'm gonna make good deals" "I'm gonna hire the best people" "I'm gonna be a good negotiatior" "We'll bomb ISIS" "We're gonna build a wall and keep rapists and muslim terrorists out" Your inability to believe him, because you can't comprehend the abstract concept of the government doing its job, does not disqualify him. It disqualifies you.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 09:58 AM (xuouz)

134 bow tie conservatism is as dead as bonehead bernie

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 09:59 AM (8Vn+p)

135 Maybe Ace's doesnt want to see Amish & chemjeff's heads explode?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 09:59 AM (iQIUe)

136 It's those New York Values. When someone zings you, you zing'm back twice as hard, and usually with some F-bombs or something equally profane. It's the New York Way. That's the Chicago way. New York Values are about leftist abandonment of reason and dignity.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 09:59 AM (39g3+)

137 I hope that Trump is scaring the sh*t out of Republican Establishment. I have detested the establishment since 2007 at least. However, Trump scares me too, not because of his free trade stance necessarily, but because his free trade stance is winning him so much support. I wish America would move more towards unilateral free trade and not away from it to benefit big domestic producers.

Posted by: Immigrant in CA at January 29, 2016 09:59 AM (89P1m)

138 3 The comments are full of hate and vile

And most of those comments were most likely posted inside the Beltway. It's a gut check for the non-profit and lobby class.


Posted by: Wendy at January 29, 2016 10:00 AM (bpemY)

139 The thing is, Cruz makes the GOP establishment burn too, but he's at least less distasteful and trustworthy than Trump. Everything bad Cruz is accused of, Trump is 19 times more (other than being a lawyer and he makes up for it by being a real estate developer). But the establishment hates, hates, hates Cruz. A big win by him crushes them. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:56 PM (39g3+) Cruz is Luther to the corrupted clergy of the GOP. Trump is the Ottoman Turks. One wishes to reform and get back to principles, make the laity the authority. The other will just put everyone and everything to the sword.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at January 29, 2016 10:00 AM (iH2E6)

140 135 Maybe Ace's doesnt want to see Amish & chemjeff's heads explode? Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 02:59 PM (iQIUe) Hey speaking of which where are those two...uh...friends of ours?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:00 AM (xuouz)

141 Still can't figure out why so many of you think Trump is a threat to the establishment. Everything in his history points to him being the exact opposite.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 29, 2016 10:00 AM (1RNgT)

142 "break up the monotony of "socialists win! Obama shoots 16 holes in one! Republicans unable to hold their 18 point 4th quarter lead despite their usually reliable defense, again!" stories four times a day, every day. Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR" omg, did you put your finger on it or what ? anything but 8 more years of this and the Soviet level of lies about everything else.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 29, 2016 10:01 AM (Z8DIA)

143 Your inability to believe him, because you can't comprehend the abstract concept of the government doing its job, does not disqualify him. It disqualifies you. Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 02:58 PM (xuouz) Wow. I donno about the rest of you non-Weaselhead drones, but I'm convinced by the sheer power of this argument.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 10:01 AM (xWW96)

144 If you think the Rule of Law and the Constitution still matter, as I do, then you should be all in for Cruz.

In light of Ocare, Christian bakers, indictment of Planned Parenthood video makers, "Ghey Marriage", jailing of "Benghazi video maker" etc. etc. do you think thar genie can be placed back into the bottle?

Because I don't .

At this point in history we may need the biggest bully on the playground to protect us while we get sorted out for America 2.0.

(*I do like Cruz. )

Posted by: Mortimer[/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 10:01 AM (R1a9g)

145 As I posted earlier, Venezuela is going belly up. The article was in WaPo and the comments were hilarious - most bashing Bernie and a few who were hard core believers in communism who reminded me of Baghdad Bob who died that the troops were in the capital as US tanks rolled pass him.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 10:01 AM (iQIUe)

146 that

Posted by: Mortimer[/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 10:01 AM (R1a9g)

147 Maybe Ace's doesnt want to see Amish & chemjeff's heads explode? Why not? *hands out ponchos and rain hats*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 10:01 AM (1xUj/)

148 Trump WILL MAKE SHOCKING AND VULGAR GREAT AGAIN! Shocking and vulgar has always been great. Witness the best years of SNL. Shocking and vulgar is the American dream.

Posted by: Thornton Melon at January 29, 2016 10:02 AM (2lndx)

149 "Why is Carlson writing for Politico? " Politico is undergoing restructuring. Top talent bailing out (or being purged). Change has come to politico. Or at least a reshuffling of management or something.

Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 29, 2016 10:02 AM (BrgUe)

150 I am at my wit's end about the inability of people to comprehend that analyzing a matter is not even remotely the same as endorsing it. I've straight up been told that someone eschewing Trump needs no plan for his voters. That's tantamount to "no I need no plan to keep my foot from getting blown off when I pull the trigger on this shotgun pointed at it, now watch this, three shots in two seconds!" It's like hitting yourself repeatedly in the crotch with a hammer and then wondering why you pee red. Just remember, folks, it was going to be someone.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 29, 2016 10:02 AM (9krrF)

151 That's the Chicago way. New York Values are about letting bums piss in Times Square.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 10:02 AM (SAhpk)

152 Oh noes!

Posted by: Yip und 2 corinthians at January 29, 2016 10:02 AM (e7T6D)

153 >>>>Still can't figure out why so many of you think Trump is a threat to the establishment. Everything in his history points to him being the exact opposite.
.
.
.Trump is a threat to them because they didn't pick him.  It was Jeb!'s turn remember?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 29, 2016 10:02 AM (iONHu)

154 We're in Plato's cave. Very literally, in fact. The shadows on the wall are a reality, but they are not all of reality. And those trying to rescue us seem insane, vulgar, and frightening. Trump has said he'll do the basic things right. And this makes people angry, because they really want him to talk to them about their shadows.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:02 AM (xuouz)

155 Huh. Good piece. I always had Tucker Carlson pegged as a David Brooks-esque faggot.

Posted by: Naes at January 29, 2016 10:03 AM (Ypc8j)

156 ... it's amazing to look around conservative twitter and marvel at their lack of self awareness, they're grasping at anything, putting out fallacies that are laughable and denigrating American workers all because they just can't bring themselves to admit they're wrong and got played for fools by the donor class and the pols they elected, it's gonna be fun watching reality kick them in their ass. Posted by: All Teh Meh at January 29, 2016 02:58 PM (yq2eR) It's surreal watching all of this ooze out of the likes of Charles Krauthammer, and folks...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:03 AM (qCMvj)

157 I welcome the logic of the Mistress of the Ravage. May Death come swiftly to her enemies--but not too swiftly. Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at January 29, 2016 02:56 PM (iH2E6) Oh please. Like I would allow my enemies the sweet release of death. But perhaps I've said too much . . . .

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 29, 2016 10:03 AM (mf5HN)

158 I read Cooke's response to Carlson's article over at NR's Corner.  To distill his counterargument to its essentials, Cooke more or less says Carlson overstates the case and paints with too broad of a brush.

Personally, I think all of the pundits are being way too optimistic on every front.  I happen to agree with National Review that Trump is a bad candidate and he would--if elected--make a terrible president.  Granted, I'll vote for Trump in the general if he wins the nomination but I have no illusions about him.

Yet even now, as I write this, National Review still refuses to admit there might be such a thing as an Establishment or that this Establishment's refusal to stand up to Obama and the Democrats and address the concerns of its own base--particularly when it comes to immigration--are the reasons Trump is the frontrunner in the primaries. 

In short, the GOP Establishment is going to keep doing and saying the same pollyanna shit until the very end.  Shocking as it may seem, they might be the ones who do the third party split.

Posted by: troyriser at January 29, 2016 10:03 AM (UWlp+)

159 The only thing that would have made the "debate" last night worth watching would have been if Megyn had shaved her head and went full Yul Brynner.

Posted by: wth at January 29, 2016 10:03 AM (HgMAr)

160 "Furthermore, it is imperative that one be able to analyze matters as they are, not as one wishes them to be. Thus, noting x y and z about whatever should not even remotely give rise to the instantaneous assumption that said notation equals endorsement or acceptance of the matter."

Her Imperial Malevolence proceeds directly to the central issue, as usual.

However, let us note that on the other side of the aisle, the left do not consider themselves to be in any way constrained by the nonsensical "analysis equals endorsement" calculus.

They produce analyses of right-wing policies and thinking all the time, without any corresponding fear of being tarred by the brush which they are wielding.

Of course, the overwhelming majority of that analysis is shallow ad hom nonsense -- OMG conservatives hate Obama because they're frightened by the thought of a strong smart black male!!! -- but nevertheless, that analysis is produced in considerable abundance.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 10:03 AM (noWW6)

161 Your inability to believe him, because you can't comprehend the abstract concept of the government doing its job, does not disqualify him. It disqualifies you. I don't believe him because he's Donald Trump and 12 months ago he was saying the opposite. Maybe he's telling the truth and will pull it all off, or at least try. But I don't see any reason to believe that. Voting for him would be an act of defiance and rage, not trust.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:03 AM (39g3+)

162 I hope that Trump is scaring the sh*t out of Republican Establishment. I have detested the establishment since 2007 at least. However, Trump scares me too, not because of his free trade stance necessarily, but because his free trade stance is winning him so much support. I wish America would move more towards unilateral free trade and not away from it to benefit big domestic producers. Posted by: Immigrant in CA But here you're acting as though he means what he says and will do that, exactly that. One of the reasons ANYONE is listening to him is that we're all sick of mitch the bitch and company lying to us. The fact that people listen to trump and think that he might ACYTUALLY DO SOME OF WHAT HE SAYS is new. It shouldn't be. The rest are openly mocking us, lying to us, or lying to us in two languages. Again. This is why we're where we are.

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 29, 2016 10:03 AM (326rv)

163 99 vagina resonates with a certain subset of women
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 29, 2016 02:53 PM (mf5HN)


I'd like to hear more about this.

Posted by: rebel flounder at January 29, 2016 10:03 AM (3dOE/)

164 This thread seems somewhat civil, so far. But I can see it degenerating quickly. A little class, people -- and you know who you are.

Posted by: zika bearing mosquito at January 29, 2016 10:03 AM (fbovC)

165 147 Gonna need some of goggles to cover the eyes too.

Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2016 10:03 AM (8HTq1)

166 I missed a debate?

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 10:04 AM (8Vn+p)

167 ...And those trying to rescue us seem insane, vulgar, and frightening.


You called?

Posted by: Huma and Vay Jay at January 29, 2016 10:04 AM (e7T6D)

168 >>> Maybe Ace's doesnt want to see Amish & chemjeff's heads explode? Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 02:59 ------ Chemjeffs won't, he is a rational person bc he is a man of science and entirely rational, too much so. The Amish just seems unusually, unnaturally angry bc of the Trump.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 10:04 AM (2x3L+)

169 All this bow tie hate proves that you all are not Hampden-Sydney men.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 29, 2016 10:04 AM (WQMJ4)

170 Spot. On. Can't say I'm in Trump's camp yet, but he's mopping the floor with everyone on both sides. Literally rag dolling them....and I confess to liking it. A LOT.

Posted by: Frank at January 29, 2016 10:04 AM (noank)

171 I've read enough of Ace's posts to not regard this as an endorsement of Trump, and I realize it's quite possible to see that the entire dismissal of its base by the GOP lead to Trump's rise. I'm also able to see that one can criticize Trump without it meaning that you "hate" him and you will pull the lever for someone you consider a loud mouthed, vulgar narcissist because you think and hope at least he'd be better than Hillary or Bernie.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2016 10:04 AM (w4NZ8)

172 @116 False premise. Obama's administration is the abnegation of rule of law. Just because the Antichrist tears down the Church doesn't mean I renounce my faith.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at January 29, 2016 10:04 AM (iH2E6)

173 Your inability to believe him, because you can't comprehend the abstract concept of the government doing its job, does not disqualify him. It disqualifies you. Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 02:58 PM (xuouz) I don't think it disqualifys anyone. He's made brash statements. Just wanting him to back it up. The federal government whether led by GOP or DONK has been a fiasco for a number of years. Reagan was right 30+ years ago when he said I'm here from the gov't and Im here to help you joke.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 10:04 AM (voOPb)

174 Love this article. Emotional Incontinence, LOL

Posted by: Jen the original at January 29, 2016 10:04 AM (TKQrK)

175 Why not? *hands out ponchos and rain hats* Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 03:01 PM (1xUj/) See! See how smart you were to pester me into getting new boots! I want a propeller on my rain hat.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 29, 2016 10:04 AM (mf5HN)

176 >>>artisanal sent Ace this. My bet no i think i just saw it, late, after the debate. Might have gotten it off twitter as I do follow Politico.

Posted by: ace at January 29, 2016 10:05 AM (dciA+)

177             Saunters in....

*drops stacks of rifles



saunters out      
- - -
and just where do you think you're going, yard bird?

drop right on down next to those weapons and beat your face until i get tired...

and then you're going to detail clean every single one of them


Posted by: redc1c4 at January 29, 2016 10:05 AM (bT0b6)

178 In short, the GOP Establishment is going to keep doing and saying the same pollyanna shit until the very end. Shocking as it may seem, they might be the ones who do the third party split. We've never heard such bullshit in our lives

Posted by: Mike Castle, coke bear, Thad Cochran and that prick from Kansas at January 29, 2016 10:05 AM (326rv)

179 Trump: "I get more pussy than you do" Tucker: "I suck more dick than you do"

Posted by: Roy at January 29, 2016 10:05 AM (VndSC)

180 However, let us note that on the other side of the aisle, the left do not consider themselves to be in any way constrained by the nonsensical "analysis equals endorsement" calculus. The number of f***s I give about what Leftards think is actually negative--if they hate it, all the more reason! Honestly, they're actually quite predictable. It's time to quit holding ourselves hostage to their hissy fits and start bulldozing their sorry asses.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 29, 2016 10:06 AM (9krrF)

181 Your inability to believe him, because you can't comprehend the abstract concept of the government doing its job, does not disqualify him. It disqualifies you. Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 02:58 PM (xuouz) Wow. I donno about the rest of you non-Weaselhead drones, but I'm convinced by the sheer power of this argument. Stop applying "Political English" to a businessman. Use "Business English ". Good deal = 80% - 20%, he wins Great negotiating - Asks for 300%, settles for 150%. You don't take a $700 million inheritance and turn it into $9 billion by being taken.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 10:06 AM (SAhpk)

182 http://www.isidewith.com/political-quiz

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 10:06 AM (voOPb)

183 "The thing is, Cruz makes the GOP establishment burn too, but he's at least less distasteful and trustworthy than Trump." To me, Cruz appeals to an intellectual and policy oriented type of person, that sort of person who argues in the same halls the Tucker Carlson talks about the establishment residing in. To me, Trump is not of that world. He isn't interested in position papers, the minutia of policy, making sure that the witty epigram has been polished to perfection. Trump is actually a bottom-line, get something accomplished on a deadline, used-and-useful on the account books person. Absolutely flashy and flamboyant, but with a hard center of accomplishing something, and he projects that. You aren't going to win over fly-over country with position papers from the AEI, you will when you have someone who can speak about the logistics of actually constructing something from the ground up.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 10:06 AM (hLRSq)

184 "that analysis is produced in considerable abundance" because they've been trained to bark in that manner, so when they bark like that, the rest of their breed recognize that bark and bark in return, so they all end up barking the same way, and feel good about themselves and that they belong to the same pack if you look at it in those terms, all their bullshit makes sense

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 10:06 AM (8Vn+p)

185 "The Amish just seems unusually, unnaturally angry bc of the Trump. " Dude is obsessed.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 29, 2016 10:07 AM (LA7Cm)

186 I think the last line is the most important: We have evaluated the alternatives to Trump and have decided they are worse.

The responses vary from "you're so fucking stupid" to "we pinky promise to do better, next time."

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 29, 2016 10:07 AM (fQ/0p)

187 died = claimed

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 10:07 AM (iQIUe)

188 I love Tucker Carlson. Nobody gets the Beltway crowd like he does. He can skewer them while joyfully admitting that he loves living in DC with all these blowhards from both parties. What's new about this piece is that he is taking a wrecking ball not just to the eeevil "GOPe" but also to the CONSERVATIVE establishment, and oh yes, there is one. It isn't the same as the Republican establishment at all. It has raised just as much money from gullible billionaires and regular folks, pushing this FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

Posted by: rockmom at January 29, 2016 10:07 AM (wTOTx)

189 "National Review still refuses to admit there might be such a thing as an Establishment or that this Establishment's refusal to stand up to Obama and the Democrats and address the concerns of its own base--particularly when it comes to immigration--are the reasons Trump is the frontrunner in the primaries."

Can't spell RINO without NR.

This mythological-hero business about Bill Buckley bravely casting out the deviationist heretics back in the day has gone to the heads of the NR editorial board, and not at all in a good way.

I'm not willing to admit that there are down-pat textbook definitions of conservatism qua conservatism, and I'm especially not happy with the likes of Rich Lowry undertaking to author such a textbook.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 10:08 AM (noWW6)

190 184 "that analysis is produced in considerable abundance" because they've been trained to bark in that manner, so when they bark like that, the rest of their breed recognize that bark and bark in return, so they all end up barking the same way, and feel good about themselves and that they belong to the same pack if you look at it in those terms, all their bullshit makes sense Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 03:06 PM (8Vn+p) Social signalling.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:08 AM (xuouz)

191 >>>Huh. Good piece. I always had Tucker Carlson pegged as a David Brooks-esque faggot. ignoring the slur, but taking your meaning: Oh, dear, no. Carlson may project one sort of persona with his dress and bearing but no, no, no.

Posted by: ace at January 29, 2016 10:08 AM (dciA+)

192 Why does the GOP Establishment hate Trump? He might break their rice bowls. Donald Trump might actually solve a lot of problems permanently. He might actually get rid of Obamacare. He might secure the border. He might build up the US Military. If he does that, how will the GOPe endlessly fundraise off of these "issues"??? The answer is that they won't, and if they can't fundraise, they might lose their cushy jobs. They need those dollars and those votes from the stupid rubes in flyover country to live their lives of luxury. What would you do if someone threarened your job? Especially a fantastic job that will make you a very rich,rich person? Damned right the Establishment Republicans HATE Donald Trump! And they hate Ted Cruz even more. They know he means it.

Posted by: rd at January 29, 2016 10:08 AM (v0YLX)

193 WHUMPA- WHUMPA-WHUMPA

Posted by: the vein on amish dood's head at January 28, 2016 02:43 PM (W0RfD)


I'm still giggling.

Posted by: Mortimer[/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 10:08 AM (R1a9g)

194 Stop applying "Political English" to a businessman. Use "Business English ". Good deal = 80% - 20%, he wins Great negotiating - Asks for 300%, settles for 150%. You don't take a $700 million inheritance and turn it into $9 billion by being taken. Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 03:06 PM (SAhp However in a business deal, both parties want something. In DC if they both want something its bad for us. And only one party compromises, the Party of STupid (GOP) His approach will not work with the countless agencies and bickering of the congress. Wish it would.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 10:08 AM (voOPb)

195 Still can't figure out why so many of you think Trump is a threat to the establishment. I don't think he is. I think a vote for him is, however. Its a pointless, vulgar act of defiance to punish the filthy bastards who have stabbed us in the back once too often. As for guys like Krauthammer and the National Review: they're just sounding the alarm that this Trump guy isn't a conservative, won't govern remotely to the right, will be basically a moderate Democrat at the best, and stunned confusion anyone would support him. Its because they don't get how enraged, infuriated, and beyond rational concern people have gotten. We have given the GOP all its needed over and over for over 2 decades and all they've done is cop a squat on us. Enough. Time to pay. They did this to themselves, as others noted above.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:08 AM (39g3+)

196 because they've been trained to bark in that manner, so when they bark like that, the rest of their breed recognize that bark and bark in return, so they all end up barking the same way, and feel good about themselves and that they belong to the same pack In other words, it's all tribal signalling.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 29, 2016 10:09 AM (9krrF)

197 Posted by: Mortimer at January 29, 2016 03:08 PM (R1a9g) Haha thanks for that, let's not let this sweet little meme die.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:09 AM (xuouz)

198 172 @116 False premise. Obama's administration is the abnegation of rule of law. Just because the Antichrist tears down the Church doesn't mean I renounce my faith. Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at January 29, 2016 03:04 PM (iH2E6) You can't have rule of law when half the country ignores it, and holding yourself to that standard just makes you a slave.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 29, 2016 10:09 AM (oYNmA)

199 Instead the establishment redoubled their efforts on the same policies which had alienated those voters in the first place, while loudly telling those voters that they're hopeless rubes and useless fools for backing this newly emergent figure. Yeah, that'll end well. Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 02:54 PM (noWW6) THIS^^^^ I'm pretty sure I was the first (or close to it anyway) saying that we should support Trump and use him as a knife in a game of mumbly-peg or, if you prefer, the car in a game of chicken with the GOPe. With the idea that either we get what we want- I was assuming Prez Cruz or one of the other conservatives as well as policies we wanted -or they get nothing of what they want and President Trump as well. There is so much political and social energy out there for Trumpian and conservative policies- that it seemed like a no brainer for the GOPe to pick up on it and run the table. But- Nope. So, fuck those guys, I want Cruz, but I'll happily pull the lever for Trump if it comes to that. He, at least, is going to give me one thing I want, and also is the only candidate that has the capacity to surprise (that's both good and bad). Plus, better than Hillary!, Sanders, Jeb!, or Rubio.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 29, 2016 10:09 AM (0cMkb)

200 I don't believe him because he's Donald Trump and 12 months ago he was saying the opposite. Maybe he's telling the truth and will pull it all off, or at least try. But I don't see any reason to believe that. Voting for him would be an act of defiance and rage, not trust. THAT'S what we have been saying! Defiance and rage! Revenge! Trust? Never. Hell, I have family members I don't trust.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 10:09 AM (SAhpk)

201 Anyone else rationalize buying extra rifles for arming your neighbors?   Or just me?

Posted by: Yip und dos corithians at January 29, 2016 10:10 AM (e7T6D)

202 The last legit bow tie was made sometime in 1983 and probably buried with Sen. Paul Simon (D-IL). Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist A dead ringer for Orville Redenbacher.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2016 10:10 AM (FkBIv)

203 Sorry I hit Post too soon on that last one. Anyhoo, Carlson also blames the conservative complex in DC that keeps raising money and putting out emails but accomplishing nothing. Like Jim DeMint and the clowns at Heritage Action.

Posted by: rockmom at January 29, 2016 10:10 AM (wTOTx)

204 I'm not endorsing Trump by posting this. If anyone believes Ace is endorsing Trump (and not just Trump, so many other candidates with what he posts), they 1 - never read Ace's posts, or the whole thing, because they would be instantly proven wrong 2 - just trying to stir up sh*t 3 - liberals

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:10 AM (qCMvj)

205 >>> no i think i just saw it, late, after the debate. Might have gotten it off twitter as I do follow Politico. Posted by: ace at January 29, 2016 03:05 PM (dci ---- She posted it as a link this morning. I meant my post for her, not you. You should be doing what you do best, socking or posting --- NOT tweeting. We actually miss you when you're gone. Not me, but everyone else.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 10:10 AM (2x3L+)

206 off topic, but before I forget: Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said on Tuesday that she would consider making investment income taxable through Social Security deductions in a bid to keep the government program afloat, the Wall Street Journal reported.

Posted by: Mallflower at January 29, 2016 10:10 AM (qSIlh)

207 TRUMP. SMASH.

Posted by: @votermom at January 29, 2016 10:10 AM (cbfNE)

208 His approach will not work with the countless agencies and bickering of the congress. Wish it would. Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 03:08 PM (voOPb) The $$$ question is: what will he do when it doesn't? There's upside there. It's a risk, but there's upside. Give him a mandate and he could move mountains. I said *could*

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:10 AM (xuouz)

209 127 FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2016 02:51 PM

Trump's voice mail reply to Tucker.

It's those New York Values. When someone zings you, you zing'm back twice as hard, and usually with some F-bombs or something equally profane. It's the New York Way.
Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 29, 2016 02:58 PM (BrgUe)


Long story short, dude in NY used some chick's public misstep (they were legal adversaries of a sort) to cost chick's client millions in potential profit.   He said that he should send her a fruit basket as a thank you. 

That's NY, in a nutshell.  And I hope Trump wants to send Hillary and the GOPe fruit baskets after he is inaugurated.

Posted by: rebel flounder at January 29, 2016 10:11 AM (3dOE/)

210 Time to pay. They did this to themselves, as others noted above. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 03:08 PM (39g3 Nature hates a vacuum.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 10:11 AM (voOPb)

211 I was waiting for the twist or the dagger blow at the end but it wasn't there. It's actually a pretty good article by Tucker.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 29, 2016 10:11 AM (8yrGZ)

212 159 The only thing that would have made the "debate" last night worth watching would have been if Megyn had shaved her head and went full Yul Brynner. Posted by: wth at January 29, 2016 03:03 PM (HgMAr) If she took off her shirt, shaved her head, and sang "It Is A Puzzlement", maybe. MAYBE.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 29, 2016 10:11 AM (RD7QR)

213 I had a Dem friend of mine post a bunch of shit on how Hillary lies, how Bernie lies and how he's sick of it. Then he posted how Cruz lies, Bush lies and how he was sick of that. I asked, Cruz vs Hillary, who do you vote for? He said Hillary. Rubio vs Hillary. Hillary. I say maybe it is time to take a hard look at Trump. Burn it all down.

Posted by: pointsnfigures at January 29, 2016 10:12 AM (hSpC/)

214 He does make a good point about 8 years of a born-again president has resulted in the near extermination of Christianity from Iraq. And it was GWB who started the superlative, obsequious (and unnecessary) praise of Islam that continues to this day.

Posted by: Naes at January 29, 2016 10:12 AM (Ypc8j)

215 However in a business deal, both parties want something. In DC if they both want something its bad for us. And only one party compromises, the Party of STupid (GOP) His approach will not work with the countless agencies and bickering of the congress. Then he pulls out his pen & phone and eo's the shit out of everything. And the way he trolls the media? Go ahead, say something. Trump pushes their buttons, gets them to respond how he KNOWS they will, THEN he lowers the boom.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 10:12 AM (SAhpk)

216 Why do the Trumpkins assume dislike of Trump equals fellating the GOPe? Seriously, I get the appeal of taking a flamethrower to everything. But most of us still have to live here after the place gets burned down, and does anyone believe we'll actually get a better Constitution the second time around? Maybe if it's down to just us morons, but we wouldn't be that lucky.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at January 29, 2016 10:12 AM (iH2E6)

217 because they've been trained to bark in that manner, so when they bark like that, the rest of their breed recognize that bark and bark in return, so they all end up barking the same way, and feel good about themselves and that they belong to the same pack In other words, it's all tribal signalling. Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 29, 2016 03:09 PM (9krrF) it's their gravy train...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:12 AM (qCMvj)

218 I am at my wit's end about the inability of people to comprehend that analyzing a matter is not even remotely the same as endorsing it. Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 29, 2016 02:53 PM (mf5HN) By the same token, mentioning anything negative about a candidate is not the same thing as hating said candidate, refusing to vote for said candidate or hating said candidates supporters... 63 47 I consider it one of my (quite few) failings of manhood that I can't yet tie a bow tie. Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 02:47 PM (1xUj/) Real men don't wear bow ties. Except with tuxedos. Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 02:49 PM (s5o+q) They do look sort of rakish untied at the end of the night with a nice tux...

Posted by: Lea at January 29, 2016 10:12 AM (lIU4e)

219 Lottsa folks gonna be eating crow pie if Trump is elected and immediately starts sucking Democrat dick and calling us unreasonable rubes for objecting. And he is quite capable of same.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 10:12 AM (xWW96)

220 We have evaluated the alternatives to Trump and have decided they are worse. That's what it basically comes down to. He's awful, but not as bad as the alternative. When all you have is a selection of terrible choices, pick the one that is least bad and makes the biggest statement about how much you like your choices.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:12 AM (39g3+)

221 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 03:08 PM (39g3+)

Kevin Williamson, a writer whose work I admire, told me to grow up when I told him this.

The ignorance of the reasons for Trump is the clearest example of the disconnect between the Beltway-NYC-Boston establishment and real Americans that I have ever seen.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at January 29, 2016 10:12 AM (Zu3d9)

222 159 The only thing that would have made the "debate" last night worth watching would have been if Megyn had shaved her head and went full Yul Brynner. Posted by: wth at January 29, 2016 03:03 PM (HgMAr) You had me until her "head" part... the Yul Brynner thing I find a bit disturbing yet intriguing.

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 29, 2016 10:12 AM (t06LC)

223 Out, damned sock!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2016 10:12 AM (Zu3d9)

224 "Anybody recall the excess in the depictions of the Capital in Hunger Games when reading this? Posted by: rebel flounder Absolutely. The popularity of that movie franchise should have been a warning bell to DC. Posted by: Mortimer" Really ? I hope so. It seems that way to us, but I think Modren Yoots are conditioned to see every bad character in movies as Republicans. Reality has no bearing on this.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 29, 2016 10:12 AM (Z8DIA)

225 Well, the comments at Politico are exactly what you'd expect.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2016 10:12 AM (FsuaD)

226 It may be a good analysis, but Tucker Carlson isn't actually influential. The Daily Caller website sucks. It is barely readable. This place with its archaic software runs better than that POS -- Isn't that the truth...on all counts. I stopped going to DC a long time ago. The website simply couldn't be more sh*tty. I don't even contemplate clicking on something over there, even if it's interesting. Not gonna do it. OTOH, I like our hamster wheel here.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at January 29, 2016 10:12 AM (pVkEV)

227 The problem is that Trump isn't right, he's saying many right things. And wrong. And indifferent. And whatever rolls off his tongue at the time.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:46 PM (39g3+)


This and also: using past behavior as an indicator of future actions, Trump is way, way too comfortable with the insular, incestuous crony capitalism that is the root cause of ALL the problems people are screaming about. Trump does not even pretend he sees something wrong with that system.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 10:13 AM (OrI3J)

228 We no likee dis Tucka fella here at de Cornah

Posted by: The NRO gang at January 29, 2016 10:13 AM (SCcgT)

229 Give him a mandate and he could move mountains.  Yes. Not a barely there, razor thin margin of victory would only give him months before the knives came out.

Posted by: zika bearing mosquito at January 29, 2016 10:13 AM (fbovC)

230 they're just sounding the alarm that this Trump guy isn't a conservative, won't govern remotely to the right, will be basically a moderate Democrat at the best, and stunned confusion anyone would support him. Let's take that 100% at face value. If true, in what way is that worse than mitch the bitch and company? In what way would we get a result worse than what we're getting now, and have gotten?

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 29, 2016 10:13 AM (326rv)

231 crow pie...  crow pie....  hmm

Posted by: Yip und dos corithians at January 29, 2016 10:14 AM (e7T6D)

232 Its because they don't get how enraged, infuriated, and beyond rational concern people have gotten. We have given the GOP all its needed over and over for over 2 decades and all they've done is cop a squat on us. Enough. Time to pay. They did this to themselves, as others noted above. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 03:08 PM (39g3+) There was a bit going around Twitter the other day by Speaker Ryan and some other Republican elected officials about how in 2016 the Republicans are going to use all the power allowed by the Constitution to stop Obama. Okay. Everyone whose nic starts with a - m scream POWER OF THE PURSE. Everyone whose nic starts with n - z scream IMPEACHMENT. Those whose nics start with numbers or characters do jazz hands in the background. To make it classy.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 29, 2016 10:14 AM (mf5HN)

233 Its because they don't get how enraged, infuriated, and beyond rational concern people have gotten. We have given the GOP all its needed over and over for over 2 decades and all they've done is cop a squat on us. Enough. Time to pay. They did this to themselves, as others noted above. So you're going to teach them a lesson by electing a lying, pandering, establishment loving, liberal? You guys really mean business!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 29, 2016 10:14 AM (1RNgT)

234 And I stand by what I have said many times before. If watching the GOP burn means more to you than the Republic, then Trump's your guy.

If you think the Rule of Law and the Constitution still matter, as I do, then you should be all in for Cruz.

And if you like the status quo, Jeb is there for you.
============
If I can't have Cruz, I'll give them Trump.

Thus endeth the negotiation.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 29, 2016 10:14 AM (fQ/0p)

235 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:46 PM (39g3+ I agree.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2016 10:14 AM (w4NZ8)

236 The reason to vote for Trump is that a new precedent for impeachment will be set. So it will no longer be off the table like it is now. It will also be bipartisan.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 29, 2016 10:15 AM (XtAzU)

237 Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 29, 2016 03:11 PM (RD7QR)

Nope.

The only thing that would have gotten me to watch that shitshow was if Megyn came to my house for a quickie before the debate.

And even then, I probably would have lied and said I would watch.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2016 10:15 AM (Zu3d9)

238 Then he pulls out his pen & phone and eo's the shit out of everything. And the way he trolls the media? Go ahead, say something. Trump pushes their buttons, gets them to respond how he KNOWS they will, THEN he lowers the boom. Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 03:12 PM (SAhpk One can only hope. I think a vote for him is wonderful F. U to establishment. However, once in office I believe he would lead from left of center. The only way he would change my mind on that is if he named a conservative as a VP choice. He's blasted enough true conservatives both personally & politically I don't trust him

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 10:15 AM (voOPb)

239 Lottsa folks gonna be eating crow pie if Trump is elected and immediately starts sucking Democrat dick and calling us unreasonable rubes for objecting. And he is quite capable of same. Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 03:12 PM (xWW96) I eat all kinds of pie. There's as much evidence he'd do this this as there is for the idea he'd ground all air traffic for two days while he rounds up everyone who worked for the Obama White House to prosecute them, starting with Renegade and Renaissance.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:15 AM (xuouz)

240 "it's all tribal signalling" moreover, if all you know how to do is bark a particular way, a way shared by other expensive dogs, your economic value is signalled by that bark all expensive dogs have a vested interest in barking the same song: they signal to each other, and they shore up their doggie class's value

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 10:15 AM (8Vn+p)

241 I consider it one of my (quite few) failings of manhood that I can't yet tie a bow tie. Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 02:47 PM (1xUj/) Heh. I consider it a mark of manhood that I cannot tie a regular tie, let alone a bowtie.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2016 10:15 AM (Z8fuk)

242 So when people go ^^^THIS!!!^^^ Yeah, that. Carlson is now going to get called all kinds of things for saying the Emperor has no clothes.

Posted by: blaster at January 29, 2016 10:15 AM (2Ocf1)

243 Is this a thing? The administration admits Clintons server contained classified stuff http://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=253771

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2016 10:16 AM (ptqRm)

244 It's surreal watching all of this ooze out of the likes of Charles Krauthammer, and folks... Yeah, the debate last night had the same tone as all the others so when Krauthamner came on afterwards and said it was more civil it was just cringeworthy.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at January 29, 2016 10:16 AM (yq2eR)

245 Anyone else rationalize buying extra rifles for arming your neighbors? Or just me? Posted by: Yip und dos corithians at January 29, 2016 03:10 PM (e7T6D) Depends on your neighbors. A good neighbor has their own. The best neighbor has backups just in case.

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 29, 2016 10:16 AM (t06LC)

246 If we burn, you burn with us! Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 02:55 PM (SAhpk) Perfectly encapsulates the feelings of the base.

Posted by: WOPR at January 29, 2016 10:16 AM (LTDSy)

247 I do fear that Trump will be another Arnie.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 10:16 AM (iQIUe)

248 You're almost to the acceptance stage Ace. I'd imagine an AA meeting is similar "Hi, I'm the Blue State Hostage and I support Donald Trump." Liberating to finally acknowledge your disease, and realize many others suffer with it too.

Posted by: Blue State Hostage at January 29, 2016 10:16 AM (qKPUy)

249 Kevin Williamson, a writer whose work I admire, told me to grow up when I told him this. The ignorance of the reasons for Trump is the clearest example of the disconnect between the Beltway-NYC-Boston establishment and real Americans that I have ever seen. Posted by: Amy Schumer at January 29, 2016 03:12 PM (Zu3d9) If you admit to anything positive about Trump. Even if you aren't for him, you are getting attacked now. Kneejerk reactions everywhere. It's weird. No matter what you say. "Trump raised $6M for the vets yesterday" Bam Bam Bam "Trump did a good job on The Factor" Bam Bam Bam

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:16 AM (qCMvj)

250 If I can't have Cruz, I'll give them Trump.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 29, 2016 03:14 PM (fQ/0p)

Just for this comment I am going to pay for a Platinum membership WITH ampersand ability and a one year subscription to Troll-B-Gone for you.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2016 10:16 AM (Zu3d9)

251 But let's pretend for a second this isn't Washington. Let's imagine it's the capital of an African country, say Burkina Faso, and we are doing a study on corruption. It seems that the only point of Burkina Faso's existence is to be used as a counter-example in political essays. Not bad, really, as that's still more than most countries can claim. I'm no Tucker Carlson fan but that was an excellent piece. Of course, this is obvious stuff that anyone with a brain should have been well aware of long ago. But, this is the same Vichy GOP that nearly killed itself with its treasonous, full-throated support of aid and comfort to invading illegals in 2006-2007 and then turned around after being rescued from oblivion by the Tea Party and kicked the Tea Party in the face and jumped right back into trying to shove their treasonous, full-throated support for aid and comfort to invading illegals all over again - in addition to collaborating with the Indonesian dog-eater and his commie junta.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2016 10:17 AM (zc3Db)

252 This is your brain. This is your brain, in your head, up your ass. That's why they call it GOPe. Any questions?

Posted by: Roy at January 29, 2016 10:17 AM (VndSC)

253 Okay. Everyone whose nic starts with a - m scream POWER OF THE PURSE. Everyone whose nic starts with n - z scream IMPEACHMENT. Those whose nics start with numbers or characters do jazz hands in the background. To make it classy. Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 29, 2016 03:14 PM (mf5HN) I'll play back up - I'm dynamite on the tambourine.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 10:17 AM (hLRSq)

254 There's as much evidence he'd do this this as there is for the idea he'd ground all air traffic for two days while he rounds up everyone who worked for the Obama White House to prosecute them, starting with Renegade and Renaissance. Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 03:15 PM (xuouz) You should see a doctor. Those delusions are getting scary.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 10:17 AM (xWW96)

255 Modren Yoots are conditioned to see every bad character in movies as Republicans. Reality has no bearing on this.

True. Of a certain group of younguns. Ivy Leaguers, SJWs and pajamaboys gotta do what they do.

Some of them are really not into mom and dad's 'red vs blue' political world , being more in favor of the candidate /leader who will give them what they want. And many of them want jobs and careers and actual lives and not EBT cards. I am somewhat hopeful that enlightened self-interest may yet take root with some of the kids.

I believe that Insty had a few articles on this recently. 

Posted by: Mortimer[/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 10:18 AM (R1a9g)

256 Posted by: Yip und dos corithians at January 29, 2016 03:10 PM (e7T6D)

If the Burning Times come, one of my neighbors had better watch out.

He is an incredible douchebag.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2016 10:18 AM (Zu3d9)

257 They do look sort of rakish untied at the end of the night with a nice tux... That's the only time they look good, with the top button undone and the tie loose or untied.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:18 AM (39g3+)

258 Heh. I consider it a mark of manhood that I cannot tie a regular tie, let alone a bowtie. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2016 03:15 PM (Z8fuk) There's nothing more sexy than a smart dressed man. Ask Bond.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:18 AM (qCMvj)

259 They do look sort of rakish untied at the end of the night with a nice tux... Posted by: Lea ----------------- How ]you doin'?

Posted by: New Jersey James Bond Wannabe at January 29, 2016 10:18 AM (fSuK4)

260 POWER OF THE PURSE

Posted by: Mortimer[/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 10:18 AM (R1a9g)

261 No matter what you say. "Trump raised $6M for the vets yesterday" Bam Bam Bam "Trump did a good job on The Factor" Bam Bam Bam Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 03:16 PM (qCMvj) You're so stupid for thinking those vets will ever see a dime of that money. Wow he out-shouted Bill O'Reilly, what a feather in his cap. He'll be sucking democrat dick before his inauguration is over. Whoa, sorry. I got really light-headed for a second there. Is this still the same thread?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:18 AM (xuouz)

262 since when are politicians trustworthy I've yet to see any evidence Cruz can win the general I want to see him as AG, anyway

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 10:18 AM (8Vn+p)

263 >>>> If I can't have Cruz, I'll give them Trump. Posted by: RoyalOil at January 29, 2016 03:14 PM (fQ/0p) ------- Just for this comment I am going to pay for a Platinum membership WITH ampersand ability and a one year subscription to Troll-B-Gone for you. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2016 03:16 ------ Yeah same here. I'll throw in some extra &&&&&&&&&

Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 10:19 AM (2x3L+)

264 219 Lottsa folks gonna be eating crow pie if Trump is elected and immediately starts sucking Democrat dick and calling us unreasonable rubes for objecting. And he is quite capable of same. Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 03:12 PM (xWW96) I guess I prefer that to if Rubio, Jeb, or Kasich won. We wouldn't even get the pie as it'd be baked in the cake. Then we'd get lectures on how backwards we are and now we have a leader worthy of showing us the way through open borders or something.

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 29, 2016 10:19 AM (t06LC)

265 "Anyone else rationalize buying extra rifles for arming your neighbors? Or just me? " I use this argument Mrs VIA every time I make another C&R purchase. Honey, it's for your friends up the street, in case.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2016 10:19 AM (ptqRm)

266 Am I going to Hollywood?

Posted by: Mortimer[/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 10:19 AM (R1a9g)

267 254 There's as much evidence he'd do this this as there is for the idea he'd ground all air traffic for two days while he rounds up everyone who worked for the Obama White House to prosecute them, starting with Renegade and Renaissance. Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 03:15 PM (xuouz) You should see a doctor. Those delusions are getting scary. Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 03:17 PM (xWW96) Friend, I'm saying there's zero evidence for either.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:19 AM (xuouz)

268 Carly and I are catching on fire, just wait till next week!

Posted by: Jim Gilmore at January 29, 2016 10:19 AM (jJRIy)

269 So you're going to teach them a lesson by electing a lying, pandering, establishment loving, liberal? You guys really mean business! Posted by: Gristle Encased Head No, I'm going to vote for yet another lying, pandering, establishment loving liberal that calls itself a rethuglickan. And that is somehow better. Cause it's worked so well for the last few years.

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 29, 2016 10:19 AM (326rv)

270 I do fear that Trump will be another Arnie. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 03:16 PM (iQIUe) No chance at all. Trump is an American through and through while Ah-nold has always been eurotrash at his core. No matter what sort of Americanism Ah-nold might have embraced, deep down he was born and raised in the European, party-oriented, shit-parliamentary model and that is where he is unconsciously led on most issues.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2016 10:19 AM (zc3Db)

271 Aye, the brushes be broad and the bows be crossed. Have at it, ye snarling beasties!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] at January 29, 2016 10:20 AM (BK3ZS)

272

Real men don't wear bow ties.
Except with tuxedos.
Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 02:49 PM (s5o+q)

..........................

 

Or attached to their loincloths.

Posted by: wth at January 29, 2016 10:20 AM (HgMAr)

273 But let's pretend for a second this isn't Washington. Let's imagine it's the capital of an African country, say Burkina Faso, and we are doing a study on corruption. Then we whack 'em. F that guy!

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 10:20 AM (SAhpk)

274 >>>I've read enough of Ace's posts to not regard this as an endorsement of Trump, and I realize it's quite possible to see that the entire dismissal of its base by the GOP lead to Trump's rise. I'm also able to see that one can criticize Trump without it meaning that you "hate" him and you will pull the lever for someone you consider a loud mouthed, vulgar narcissist because you think and hope at least he'd be better than Hillary or Bernie. just so people know where I'm coming from: People sometimes tell me trump is vulgar, uninformed, easily flattered, narcissistic, boorish, unprincipled, unscrupulous, and unconservative. I know all that. From the beginning of this race, and I think I said this a bunch of times early, my dream would have been if someone more respectable and someone better informed had seized upon Trump's insight (or exploit) and made it is his own. He is a very imperfect vessel. The reason I don't read him out of the party, as many do, is that he's one of the few making his stand on these issues. Cruz does, mostly, so I support Cruz too. Cruz is imperfect as well, having mainly to do with his own charisma problems and his own ideological problems -- while Trump is basically a nativist liberal, Cruz is a very, very ideological guy. As much as Trump's liberalism sucks for conservatism, I laugh at the idea this will hurt us in the general -- especially given that the establishment types always warn us we need to be "moderate" or even liberal on these issues to win. Cruz might be too ideological for the general -- non-partisans consider it off-putting. Trump would not have that problem, barely being a "Republican" in the first place. My dream is that either Trump gets some of Cruz's brains or Cruz gets some of Trump's brashness and ability to connect with Reagan Democrats. I don't think either of those things will happen, of course. But I can't rule either man out. I know all republicans will try to keep taxes low because they all do (mostly). But there aren't any others speaking on these issues. You are either a nationalist or a universalist. And what is a nationalist? A nationalist is someoen who thinks that American citizens have, or should have, an advantage conferred on them by the American government. Like, only American citizens, or legal green card holders or H1-b holders, can work here. Universalists think that the concept of nationality is outmoded and Americans should have exactly zero advantage over any other person in the world. That is an abominable claim to me -- yet this is what the establishment actually believes. At least, all its money men are converted to this sort of radical libertarian universalism as pushed by the Wall Street Journal, and they in turn convert the people they donate to. I'm not electing a president of the world -- I'm electing a president of Americans. And if a candidate does not seem capalble of uttering the hateful words, "The greatest good to all, and no ill-will to anyone from anywhere around the world, but in all cases, Americans and the American interest must come before all other considerations and social goods," then he is, to my mind, a universalist and implicitly anti-american.

Posted by: ace at January 29, 2016 10:20 AM (dciA+)

275 There's nothing more sexy than a smart dressed man. Ask Bond. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 03:18 PM (qCMvj) You misspelled ZZ Top

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:20 AM (xuouz)

276 THIS   ....

Posted by: Yip und dos corithians at January 29, 2016 10:20 AM (e7T6D)

277 They do look sort of rakish untied at the end of the night with a nice tux... That's the only time they look good, with the top button undone and the tie loose or untied. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 03:18 PM (39g3+) It's fun watching men talk clothing. heh. It's also interesting, the anger that a simple little bowtie can cause. It's a classic, with a Tux, Black Tie Dinners... Weddings.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:20 AM (qCMvj)

278 @114...agree. Mark Steyn's take on the Trump march is a good start. And his column on attending a rally in Bernie's backyard of Vermont is excellent. There are many afraid to admit they like the non-politically correctness of Trump. I love it when he makes talking heads go splody. Love it. This is similar to the days of yore, when I read propaganda stating that Reagan was an old, doddering actor who had no idea what he was doing. I believed the propaganda vs trying to research (which was not that easy in 1980). If I remember correctly, HW Bush was the chosen won at the time, right? And he became the VP with some probable arm twisting and Reagan's wanting peace. Ok. Fast forward to 2016. We have a renegade non-politician, beholding to no lobby, no back scratching politician, no pork in those barrels of promises if you vote for him. Funding his own campaign. Totally unprecedented, my friends. I am thinking he is "too big to fail." He is not wanting to fail, should he have the honor of being elected. Think of that, an "honor" vs a "coronation" of fake columns and unicorn farts.And I do think he will consider it an honor. The world sees him, on stage, in full Trumpism, lamblasting opponents. I have seen him talking calmly and thoughtfully to individual reporters...and I think, "this is the real guy." Not the "your fired" persona. But, like you, I have no idea. He could be like Archie Bunker in real life, hanging out in his gold livingroom in his Fruit of the Loom, scratching his back with a solid gold back-scratcher from an Egyptian tomb and eating Planters Peanuts by the can. Belching and having his supermodel wife tell him to knock it off (which is a typical day in Casa Blinky). Ok, policy. Yada. Let's pretend you are Trump, President Too Big To Fail and who will smilte our enemies and protect us, as he promised. His words. Do you think he is going to hire a crony hedge fund dude to be Secretary of Defense? Do you think he might listen to the Generals (unlike the Won who listents to valjar and creates ROE's that endanger our military). Do you think he does not mean it with jobs? It won't happen in a day, but, I figure, after the last eight years of destroying our country, brick by brick, appearing weak to our enemies, not supporting our police or military, well, hail, I am ok with Trump. I am not a Trump girl, but am leaning Trump.I was Perry then Cruz, now leaning Trump or whatever happens. That said, in November I will vote (R). Bite moi.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 29, 2016 10:20 AM (7lqMl)

279 My husband had to wear a bowtie at an event recently. Required. He had to look up how to tie them, lol. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:42 PM (qCMvj) Your husband works at Chippendales? hehe

Posted by: Mainah at January 29, 2016 10:21 AM (659DL)

280 Is this a thing? The administration admits Clintons server contained classified stuff -- Listened to Josh Earnest on the radio at the top of the hour. The clip was him being asked about this and if Hillary will face prosecution. He said that's up to the DOJ, but the trajectory (as far as what's been told to him) suggests the FBI are not looking at Hillary's involvement. As in they're looking for a fall guy? What the...

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at January 29, 2016 10:21 AM (pVkEV)

281 If it's Trump v. Hillary in the general, I'll write in for Zombie Reagan and the go home for a nice soak in the tub with a toaster.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at January 29, 2016 10:21 AM (iH2E6)

282 It is deeply confusing to me that the GOP does not take money and time every off election year to hire PR consultants and image managers to fix their image in the public's eye. To the nation, "Republican Party" equals horrible people who want to jail women for not being barefoot chained to a stove, people with a Klan outfit hanging in their closet, people who want to ban fun. Its absolutely ridiculous the childish, idiotic image that people have of the GOP, and they do nothing to counter this. All their money is spent on elections, not rehabilitating their image.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:21 AM (39g3+)

283 I always thought Carlson was a jerk for his portrayal of George Bush, especially claiming that Bush mocked Karla Tucker. Maybe he did mock her. Tucker was trying to claim her born again status entitled her to a pardon. This was a woman who said when she slammed a pick ax into a guy's chest, she had an orgasm.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 10:21 AM (iQIUe)

284 Why does the GOP Establishment hate Trump?

Posted by: rd at January 29, 2016 03:08 PM (v0YLX)

Because he's a disgusting, morally bankrupt human being unfit for the office of the Presidency? 

Oh, wait, sorry:  that's me.  That's why I don't like the guy.  You're probably right about why the Establishment hates him.

Posted by: troyriser at January 29, 2016 10:21 AM (UWlp+)

285 ATC,
I would recommend that posters read Thou Shalt Not Commit Logical Fallacies website first but then someone would blame me for endorsing a candidate.

I am a poli-sci prof that has done some work in campaigns using data and published research in the area.  I am also one of those rare conservative profs. I used to do fieldwork so due to my current position, reading political blogs is the next best thing to take the pulse of the electorate.

I seldom post because I find arguing with people who use rhetoric and insults instead of dialectic worthless.  I do find it fascinating just what rhetoric they chose to employ and where the memes come from. 

BTW, I have seen the same dynamic in NVIDIA v. ATI, AMD vs. Intel, Glock v. Non-Glock,  brands of AR's, etc.  Roughly 5-10% of abusive posters that repeatedly post the same thing in multiple threads. 

My personal suspicion is that a significant number of these type posters may be paid or ordered to do so particularly where certain brands or candidates are at issue and the other half have psychological issues.

My take is that the Trump campaign if successful will rewrite the script for presidential races.  As the Dems have increasingly emphasized identity politics, the Rep. party was overdue to follow. 

We are becoming a Balkanized people where control of the central government increasingly dictates winners and losers.  At some point, identity politics coupled with massive demographic change could resemble the last days of Yugoslavia where every group sees politics as a zero sum game.   

BTW, I can also recommend Sean Trende's three part article on the race at Real Clear Politics for an even handed look at the race.  Part III is here http://preview.tinyurl.com/zh6j7xz

Posted by: whig at January 29, 2016 10:21 AM (mlyQI)

286 132 Cardboard membership.... the newsletter... would we still get that?

Posted by: Yip und 2 corinthians at January 29, 2016 02:58 PM (e7T6D)


I've been using Buzzion's membership card. I went through his pockets looking for loose change but all I could find was the membership card.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2016 10:21 AM (4ErVI)

287 Honey, it's for your friends up the street, in case. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2016 03:19 PM (ptqRm) "Now, reload those others that I discharged at your friends who live, er, lived, closer to us."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] at January 29, 2016 10:21 AM (BK3ZS)

288 "Anyone else rationalize buying extra rifles for arming your neighbors? Or just me? " You can't trust a politician 1000 miles away in DC, but you are going to trust a guy 200 yards away that didn't prepare?

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 10:21 AM (SAhpk)

289 For anyone planning to wear spinning bow ties: There is a report that novelty spinning bow ties manufactured in China by People's Novelty Company have been found to have killed 27 clowns. Forensic analysis has determined that sharp edges caused massive neck trauma and in two cases decapitation. People's Novelty Company reached a settlement earlier this year with the Federal Trade Commission regarding sales of Chinese Finger Puzzles that failed to include instructions in their safe use during sex.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at January 29, 2016 10:22 AM (FtrY1)

290 Good article. I agree that Evangelicals aren't attracted to Trump because they think he's some Uber-Christian and they're gullible rubes. Evangelicals don't care nearly as much about SoCon issues as people think they do, I would easily wager 9 out of 10 care more about the border than they do abortion.

Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 10:22 AM (6U2tl)

291 You misspelled ZZ Top Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 03:20 PM (xuouz) meh, you missed the opportunity to link music! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wRHBLwpASw

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:22 AM (qCMvj)

292 Jr. Black graduated high school last year. Bow ties are all the rage now. Most of the boys wore them to graduation. I always thought they were dorky.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at January 29, 2016 10:22 AM (pVkEV)

293 It's also interesting, the anger that a simple little bowtie can cause. They look stupid, are uncomfortable, serve no purpose, and at their best look dorky and emasculating. And we're compelled to wear that crap? We're men, and we say no.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:22 AM (39g3+)

294 No one on earth can undo all that has been done, fix all that is wrong, forestall the inevitable and total failure that is coming to this country. We are simply choosing our destroyer at this point. Or at least pretending to since the winner will be determined by who is better at voter fraud.

Posted by: Damiano at January 29, 2016 10:23 AM (XItbt)

295 "It's fun watching men talk clothing. heh. " The hanging onion....centered, or to the right?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2016 10:23 AM (ptqRm)

296 Cardboard membership.... the newsletter... would we still get that?

Hope so, we don't get it with wet toilet paper level.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 29, 2016 10:23 AM (4WhSY)

297 Kevin Williamson, a writer whose work I admire, told me to grow up when I told him this. The ignorance of the reasons for Trump is the clearest example of the disconnect between the Beltway-NYC-Boston establishment and real Americans that I have ever seen. Posted by: Amy Schumer at January 29, 2016 03:12 PM (Zu3d9) I have lost all respect for Kevin Williamson and seeing that moved me into open loathing. In point of fact, I'm beginning to lose all respect for National Review for not sitting him down and saying, point blank, you're a professional. Act like it. I now get furious if I click a link and it's to something Williamson has written because I don't want to give him any traffic at all. This upsets me because before Williamson went completely off the deep end with the open hatred of any who could even possibly say anything positive about Trump, he was an interesting writer. But nope. Since he has revealed that he cannot be a professional, then I, in turn, can decide that I will not support him in his profession.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 29, 2016 10:23 AM (mf5HN)

298 Voted absentee in NC yesterday.  Cruz.  My GOPe buddies wanted Rubio, but I held firm.



Even Burr's assistant here couldn't talk me out of it. He's for the short fvcker.


Posted by: Nip Sip at January 29, 2016 10:24 AM (jJRIy)

299 On way home heard Steven Crowder's reasons why Trump could be the worst choice on Andrew Wilkow

Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2016 10:24 AM (hk3Fb)

300 "Meanwhile Tucker wears a bowtie, modern man's chastity belt. Posted by: Jollyroger at January 29, 2016 02:50 PM (t06LC)" That's his problem. Lots of chicks used to ask me to, ahem, butter their popcorn.

Posted by: Zombie Orville Redenbacher at January 29, 2016 10:24 AM (OD2ni)

301 There was a time, not too long ago, that democrat activists were bragging about how they had purged their party of white racists, and had driven them into the GOP, which is why the GOP is racist. As the democrats moved further left, driving more democrats out of the part and to the GOP, the republicans became more sympathetic to the liberal point of view. Kinda like all this Muslim immigrants moving to Europe, or the United States and retaining their culture and their religion makes the United States and Europe less Christian. Or people from California moving to Colorado and making Colorado more like California, or people from Mexico moving to California and making that state more like Mexico City. What happens when the last proper Englishman dies, or the last German. I don't know. I'll be dead long before that.

Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 29, 2016 10:24 AM (BrgUe)

302 I would easily wager 9 out of 10 care more about the border than they do abortion. No, we are just aware that abortion is a long battle and the border can't wait. Almost nothing on earth matters more to us than the lives of helpless unborn babies, but its a matter of tactics and timing.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:24 AM (39g3+)

303 Dog's look particularly fine in a bowtie: https://goo.gl/Hcqd0q

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 10:24 AM (iQIUe)

304 We have evaluated the alternatives to Trump and have decided they are worse. It's the Godzilla Threshold. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GodzillaThreshold In brief, this means a situation is so bad, you could not make it worse by introducing Godzilla into it. We have passed the political Godzilla threshold, in my opinion.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 29, 2016 10:24 AM (9krrF)

305 To win the White House you need a majority of the electoral votes. That's a lot of voters. (A) How many of those voters really care for the ins and outs of Constitutional lectures and policy position papers? (B) How many of those voters would like the government to competently and quietly go about its business and stop bothering them? Which group are you going to appeal to win the office, Group A or Group B? Now add in that there are a lot of people who think the government is out to get them and make their lives harder and they want that to stop who do they think is going to accomplish that? (A) The guy with the perfect credentials and the endorsement of the same chattering class who have accomplished nothing that they can see? (B) The brash loud guy who can point at some physical, visible accomplishments in his life and career? Which guy are these voters going to go with?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 10:24 AM (hLRSq)

306 Bow ties are good for wiping off the backs of theater seats.

Posted by: Pee-Wee at January 29, 2016 10:24 AM (VndSC)

307 In a world of Caitlyn Jenners, Tucker might consider getting snappy new nickname to avoid confusion and embarrassment.

Posted by: Fritz at January 29, 2016 10:24 AM (BngQR)

308 There's nothing more sexy than a smart dressed man.

Ask Bond.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 03:18 PM (qCMvj)

You misspelled ZZ Top

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 03:20 PM (xuouz)


i lol'd. 

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 29, 2016 10:24 AM (UypUQ)

309 But nope. Since he has revealed that he cannot be a professional, then I, in turn, can decide that I will not support him in his profession. Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 29, 2016 03:23 PM (mf5HN) here, here!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:24 AM (qCMvj)

310 Ghost, Could you please stop calling people stupid? Or fuckos? Disagree all you want, but don't be an ass about it.

Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 10:24 AM (fSuK4)

311 Or maybe Dana Loesch, now I'm in trouble

Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2016 10:24 AM (hk3Fb)

312 If true, in what way is that worse than mitch the bitch and company?

In what way would we get a result worse than what we're getting now, and have gotten?

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 29, 2016 03:13 PM (326rv)


I am not going for not worse... I am going for better.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 10:25 AM (OrI3J)

313 You can't trust a politician 1000 miles away in DC, but you are going to trust a guy 200 yards away that didn't prepare? Posted by: rickb223

Oh, heh... yeah... I don't trust the politician in DC.  Second.. my neighbors that didn't prepare....   they're good guys... but their wives bitch at 'em all the time about spending money.  I don't mind being the armory...   for the darkened times.

Posted by: Yip und dos corithians at January 29, 2016 10:25 AM (e7T6D)

314 Plus, we've given the GOP 40 years to fix abortion and they've done nothing about it except in very rare instances. That angers us a great deal, too. This has been building up a very long time and the Tea Party was the last chance the Republican Party had to straighten up.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:25 AM (39g3+)

315 274 Yeah man. There are universal values and universal laws, but there is not and cannot for centuries be a universal government to enforce them universally. We should not throw away our advantages based on the false hope that the world will come together and be that better arbitor for us, especially on the advice of people who tell us to our faces that they hate us. And most of all, liberals know that socialism isn't worth it, but the mushy pop-morality of the left makes them go "well, we at least have to tryyyyyy" secure in the knowledge that the risk is being assumed by others, and they won't truly be called upon to sacrifice for this vision. Which is a lie.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:25 AM (xuouz)

316 I always thought Carlson was a jerk for his portrayal of George Bush, especially claiming that Bush mocked Karla Tucker. Maybe he did mock her. Tucker was trying to claim her born again status entitled her to a pardon. This was a woman who said when she slammed a pick ax into a guy's chest, she had an orgasm. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! Wait, what?

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 29, 2016 10:25 AM (326rv)

317 >>> Posted by: ace at January 29, 2016 03:20 PM (dciA ----- That shoulda been your next post. Instead you're posting it in comments. SMDH No, jk, good comment. But, it coulda been a post.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 10:25 AM (2x3L+)

318 It amazes me how dogs get attached to their collars. You take them off to bath them but they are always happy when you pu them back on.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 10:26 AM (iQIUe)

319 It's also interesting, the anger that a simple little bowtie can cause. They look stupid, are uncomfortable, serve no purpose, and at their best look dorky and emasculating. And we're compelled to wear that crap? We're men, and we say no. Cravats and spats are where it's at!

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 10:26 AM (SAhpk)

320 Tucker is right on. I have no fear of a Trump presidency. He loves America, unlike the current president. I may not agree with him on everything, but I do believe he would get things done, he would change up politics as we now know it, he would electrify a new type of person to run for other public offices that we haven't seen before, he will upend the crap that goes on in Washington every day.

I'm not afraid of his tax plan, his trade ideas, his immigration ideas. These all work for me.

We'll see what the primaries bring. After last night's debate, Cruz may have lost his edge. Undecideds may go Rubio in Iowa.

Do people really believe in the boardroom at his business Trump his a rude, child-like baby? He would not have built his business without a tough exterior/interior. His children are the best reflection of Trump...and they are well-spoken, well-educated, even-tempered people.

Posted by: K-E at January 29, 2016 10:26 AM (3mSJj)

321 On way home heard Steven Crowder's reasons why Trump could be the worst choice on Andrew Wilkow Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2016 03:24 PM (hk3Fb) and?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:26 AM (qCMvj)

322 Heh heh... Chi....   Did he go Fucko again???

Posted by: Yip und dos corithians at January 29, 2016 10:26 AM (e7T6D)

323 "Your husband works at Chippendales? hehe Posted by: Mainah" Order the footlong (and then some).

Posted by: Nick the Dick at January 29, 2016 10:26 AM (OD2ni)

324 It's also interesting, the anger that a simple little bowtie can cause. It's a classic, with a Tux, Black Tie Dinners... Weddings. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 03:20 PM (qCMvj) Perfectly fine and appropriate in those circumstances. I would also say a bowtie is fine for clandestine assassinations, escaping shark tanks, and on Winston Wolfe. They are fairly marginal worn with suits, and should be avoided at all costs with a sport coat and khakis or jeans.

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 29, 2016 10:26 AM (t06LC)

325 Let's try this for an analogy: The cruise ship of state has been taken over by barbarian pirates--the "progressives." Electing Cruz would be like following the junior ship officer who says "I intend to re-take the ship." Electing Trump would be like following the wealthy, bombastic passenger who says "I can turn the ship around and run it from the engine room." Voting for a Democrat is joining the pirates, hoping they'll kill you last.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 10:26 AM (s5o+q)

326 If true, in what way is that worse than mitch the bitch and company? In what way would we get a result worse than what we're getting now, and have gotten? Posted by: Blue Hen at January 29, 2016 03:13 PM (326rv) I am not going for not worse... I am going for better. Posted by: redbanzai Good to know. Do you see anything better in the clown car?

Posted by: Blue Hen at January 29, 2016 10:26 AM (326rv)

327 Well said, ace. I was curious about what you wrote the other day, that at heart you're still a liberal pissed at the hypocrisy of the Donks and not a conservative. After all this time, you still don't think of yourself personally as on the right? Or did I misread you?

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at January 29, 2016 10:26 AM (iH2E6)

328 Ann Coulter's piece last week was pretty persuasive as endorsements go as well. But I'm in the Fuck Everybody Camp. Trump gives money to democrats and brags about all the deals he's going to cut with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Sorry, bye! I'm voting for Hillary, because she's the illegitimate love child of SMOD and Cthulu. Plus she's All Dead Inside, so there's that as well.

Posted by: Sam in VA at January 29, 2016 10:27 AM (bNi5D)

329 310 Ghost, Could you please stop calling people stupid? Or fuckos? Disagree all you want, but don't be an ass about it. Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 03:24 PM (fSuK4) You're messing with me, right? I was being sarcastic in 261 and I don't believe I've targeted anyone anyplace else. In fact I know I didn't, because I just searched this whole thread.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:27 AM (xuouz)

330 We are simply choosing our destroyer at this point. Whoa-ho! I get it! Clear your minds, kiddos! * raptors appear * Thanks for NOT playing, AtC!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] at January 29, 2016 10:27 AM (BK3ZS)

331 I get way more pussy than Trump. Maybe I should run for president! My tiger blood will fuel a truth torpedo for the people! Plus, I'll legalize Coke.

Posted by: Charlie Sheen at January 29, 2016 10:27 AM (CVhPs)

332 Because he's a disgusting, morally bankrupt human being unfit for the office of the Presidency?


I wonder sometimes if people understand what a politician is.



Posted by: Mortimer[/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 10:27 AM (R1a9g)

333 ... I know "fucko" is an awful, vulgar term but it just cracks me up. It never makes me upset, just giggle like a 5th grader saying "scrotum."

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:28 AM (39g3+)

334 322 Heh heh... Chi.... Did he go Fucko again??? Posted by: Yip und dos corithians at January 29, 2016 03:26 PM (e7T6D) Awwww COME ON

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:28 AM (xuouz)

335
318 It amazes me how dogs get attached to their collars. You take them off to bath them but they are always happy when you pu them back on. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!


Heh.... Huma said the same thing!  hahahahaha   cough cough cough..

Posted by: Hillary... named after you know who at January 29, 2016 10:28 AM (e7T6D)

336 Bow ties reflect a remarkable scientific mind.

Posted by: Bill Nye at January 29, 2016 10:28 AM (WQMJ4)

337 Oh, heh... yeah... I don't trust the politician in DC. Second.. my neighbors that didn't prepare.... they're good guys... but their wives bitch at 'em all the time about spending money. Wait'll their wives start bitching at them about food. They folded easily once. And you have the food.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 10:29 AM (SAhpk)

338 They look stupid, are uncomfortable, serve no purpose, and at their best look dorky and emasculating. And we're compelled to wear that crap? We're men, and we say no.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 03:22 PM (39g3+)


Worn with a tux or a dinner jacket... you are so, sooooooo wrong. Then a bow tie is sexy as hell.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 10:29 AM (OrI3J)

339 I like bow ties, wear them occasionally, not just with a tux.  Won't touch a clip-on.

It is worth a little extra effort    to not     look like a seven year old with a clip on tie.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 29, 2016 10:29 AM (Qvgg/)

340 But nope. Since he has revealed that he cannot be a professional, then I, in turn, can decide that I will not support him in his profession. Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 29, 2016 03:23 PM (mf5HN) Yeah, his article from a while back about throwing that woman's cell phone at an opera or something....c'mon man, yes it's annoying somebody is talking on their phone, but you have to go and break it?

Posted by: Mainah at January 29, 2016 10:29 AM (659DL)

341 So, wasn't watching the "debate" last night. Did the moose limb plant get her point across for a gentle nation, welcoming unvetted refugees to blow us up? I think SHE was the plant to mess with The Donald. Could be wrong,as there was so much wrong with the way FOX behaved. I did enjoy reading of Megyn's pole-dancing false eyelashes. i mean, wut? Why? Has she gotten trichotillomania and pulled all her own out in Trump frustration?

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 29, 2016 10:29 AM (7lqMl)

342 "Tucker makes his rounds though. He's all over the cable channels, various shows." Let's see if he's still welcome on Fox's Special Report! They like them some Rubio.

Posted by: flycolonel at January 29, 2016 10:29 AM (5hjXu)

343 I thought it strange when weenies would get so bent out of shape by American flag waving and saying how we are the best. One, I've traveled enough to know that the weenies are no slackers in flag waving, and two, if you cant say your country is the best, there is something wrong with you or your country.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 10:30 AM (iQIUe)

344 You are either a nationalist or a universalist. And what is a nationalist? A nationalist is someoen who thinks that American citizens have, or should have, an advantage conferred on them by the American government. Posted by: ace at January 29, 2016 03:20 PM (dciA+) As the Constitution very clearly states in the pre-amble: "secure the Blessings of Liberty TO OURSELVES AND OUR POSTERITY". Citizenship should be an advantage in the nation. This is one of the bases of the nation-state based on individual liberty. Other nations - commie nations, monarchies, and party-oriented collectivist shitholes - view their citizens as subjects and tools to be owned by the government and to be used and abused at the pleasure of that government. BTW, I use the term "globalist" for those idiots who are against the notion of the nation-state. "Universalist" carries other connotations.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2016 10:30 AM (zc3Db)

345 whig, that was well put. The Balkanization is part and parcel of my loathing of the politicization of everything. It's becoming impossible to disagree. The very notion of fine, we'll disagree about it and go on and live our own lives is now considered some kind of weird voodoo. I despair, I despair. BTW, I have seen the same dynamic in NVIDIA v. ATI, AMD vs. Intel, NVIDA INTEL OR U R TEH STOOPID COMMIE YOU HILLARY TAINT LICKING COMMIE STOOPID!!1```!@LHASDKFH Ahem. Actually, I've gone to all console gaming, like the peasant I am, since I no longer have the time and money to keep up with upgrading my PC. But I digress.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 29, 2016 10:30 AM (mf5HN)

346 How wrong could you be if you don't put more than a 7 word sentence to describe a presidential proposal.

Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2016 10:30 AM (hk3Fb)

347 Oh, heh... yeah... I don't trust the politician in DC. Second.. my neighbors that didn't prepare.... they're good guys... but their wives bitch at 'em all the time about spending money. I don't mind being the armory... for the darkened times. Posted by: Yip und dos corithians at January 29, 2016 03:25 PM (e7T6D) Then get plenty of SKSs. Cheap, and they probably aren't familiar enough with the manual of arms to wring the most out of an AR.

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 29, 2016 10:30 AM (t06LC)

348 I'll legalize Coke.

Posted by: Charlie Sheen at January 29, 2016 03:27 PM (CVhPs)


And meth. And hookers. And Tijuana donkey shows.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 10:31 AM (OrI3J)

349 That Clinton server question? Zippy has updated to say that StatenDepartment is withholding eight emails between Clinton and Prezzy Boyfriend himself. That might have some implications right there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2016 10:31 AM (ptqRm)

350 >>>> Posted by: Mainah at January 29, 2016 03:29 PM ----- * waves hi to Mainah * Hope you're well.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 10:31 AM (2x3L+)

351 No, I'm not messing with yo at all. And, I hate to be a hall monitor, but you come across as a bit of a... um... jerk sometimes. Your "sarcasm" isn't as clear as you apparently think it is.

Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 10:31 AM (fSuK4)

352 Kari's Ghost of self.. 

  dude...  I promise... laughing WITH you... not AT you. 

Come to DFW... I'll buy ya a beer or 5. 

Posted by: Yip und dos Corinthians at January 29, 2016 10:31 AM (e7T6D)

353 Jr. Black graduated high school last year. Bow ties are all the rage now. Most of the boys wore them to graduation. I always thought they were dorky.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at January 29, 2016 03:22 PM (pVkEV)

I can sport a bow tie.  The secret lies in looking like you want to wear it, to own it like a boss.   But then, I argue the guy in the giant weiner costume strolling the sidewalk outside the diner can be as cool as Steve McQueen if he throws off self-consciousness and just goes with it.  Chicks dig confidence.

Posted by: troyriser at January 29, 2016 10:31 AM (UWlp+)

354 My husband had to wear a bowtie at an event recently. Required. He had to look up how to tie them, lol. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:42 PM (qCMvj) Your husband works at Chippendales? hehe Posted by: Mainah at January 29, 2016 03:21 PM (659DL) He has the body! But, he's also got the brains. Law is his forte.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:31 AM (qCMvj)

355 fine with the bow ties but it's the fussy dresser types that grate because fussiness is an index of someone's priorities lots of Americans are in the mood to get a damned job done, not to admire themselves (or others) in the mirror

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 10:32 AM (8Vn+p)

356 I actually wish we would have true universalism, open the borders to all, put all jobs at risk, make the upper class deal with what the middle and lower classes have dealt with for years and watch how quick the donor class and the pols they buy suddenly realize the need for a true border and an honest immigration system instead of the pretend border and crony system we have now. Like Tucker pointed out in the article, his neighbors were fine with the current corrupt system until they felt it themselves.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at January 29, 2016 10:32 AM (yq2eR)

357 You can't trust a politician 1000 miles away in DC, but you are going to trust a guy 200 yards away that didn't prepare? Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 03:21 PM (SAhpk) Not everyone can afford a $700 rifle.

Posted by: A dot at January 29, 2016 10:32 AM (vgIRn)

358 I think I finally undestand all these pundits on the right making excuses for Trump. We've reached peak cynicism in conservatism. Ergo, fuck our principles and get in line to kiss teh Donald's ass. Meanwhile, the principled consecative bona fides of Ted Cruz and his ability to make the Establihcons cry in a corner? Zzzz SMOD come quickly.

Posted by: chocolateptezel at January 29, 2016 10:32 AM (6VJV0)

359 I would easily wager 9 out of 10 care more about the border than they do abortion. No, we are just aware that abortion is a long battle and the border can't wait. Almost nothing on earth matters more to us than the lives of helpless unborn babies, but its a matter of tactics and timing. Posted by: Christopher Taylor Well, this Evangelical doesn't think any politician is really going to be able to do a damn thing about abortion except talk about it. I don't care what time frame you wan to look at, abortion is always going to be here and legal in all 50 states. Most people I know in that community look at abortion now as a morality issue and not a political one anymore. But the border is most certainly something the political system could fix overnight if we had the will.

Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 10:32 AM (6U2tl)

360 Lottsa folks gonna be eating crow pie if Trump is elected and immediately starts sucking Democrat dick and calling us unreasonable rubes for objecting. And he is quite capable of same.
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I think the assumption about the crow-eating says more about you than the Trump supporters.

IN case you missed it, millions of your fellow Americans have taken a look at the alternative to Trump and have found him the least worst option.

That is not their fault--don't blame them and call them stupid, ignorant and rubes.

To spell it out more clearly: Choice A is Trump. Choice B is a Democrat or a Republican who will govern as a Democrat. Choice A has a non-zero chance of doing something good for American. Choice B has a zero chance.

We're buying a fucking $2 lotto ticket with Trump 'cause that's all the fucking money we have left.

Posted by: RoyalOil at January 29, 2016 10:32 AM (fQ/0p)

361 Morning radio guy wondered if Trump was tipped off on Megyn's video clip questions

Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2016 10:33 AM (hk3Fb)

362 Bow ties reflect a remarkable scientific mind.
Posted by: Bill Nye


That's a relief, I thought they were the sign of a frustrated mechanical engineer.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 29, 2016 10:33 AM (4WhSY)

363 r. Black graduated high school last year. Bow ties are all the rage now. Most of the boys wore them to graduation. I always thought they were dorky.Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at January 29, 2016 03:22 PM (pVkEV) My nephew did too for his graduation, including the seersucker suits! All the boys did.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:33 AM (qCMvj)

364

I agree that Evangelicals aren't attracted to Trump because they think he's some Uber-Christian and they're gullible rubes.

Evangelicals don't care nearly as much about SoCon issues as people think they do, I would easily wager 9 out of 10 care more about the border than they do abortion.

Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 03:22 PM (6U2tl)


Such "evangelicals" would do well to prioritize better. 

This world and its institutions are so much dust in the wind.  What should matter to those of us living here is justice

I still believe that Obama has been permitted to do the damage he has done (and has yet to do) because he is being used to punish this country for its wickedness and apathy.  This sentiment quoted above would fall well in line with that belief. 

Let it burn.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 29, 2016 10:33 AM (6JL3d)

365 I see the bow tie fad with the grade school boys, it's about something else

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 10:33 AM (8Vn+p)

366 Naw ... no SKS armory.   M1 Garands.  heh

Posted by: Yip und dos Corinthians at January 29, 2016 10:33 AM (e7T6D)

367 Then a bow tie is sexy as hell. You might feel its sexy, the guy feels like a jackass and its still uncomfortable. Ladies, I get that you have beautiful slim, swan-like necks like the fluting of a champagne glass. Men don't, and some of us can barely close that top button without suffocating to begin with.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:33 AM (39g3+)

368 I still cant believe how weird Magic Johnson's kid is. Sheesh! Talk about flamers!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 10:33 AM (iQIUe)

369 * waves hi to Mainah * Hope you're well. Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 03:31 PM (2x3L+) Hi, L'Elle! Doing fine, thanks. Hope things are going well for you, too!

Posted by: Mainah at January 29, 2016 10:33 AM (659DL)

370 Your "sarcasm" isn't as clear as you apparently think it is.

It is to me.

I am confused. Can you cite a slight here that was offensive?

I have scrolled up and down and found nothing offensive.

Posted by: Mortimer[/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 10:33 AM (R1a9g)

371 BTW, I use the term "globalist" for those idiots who are against the notion of the nation-state. "Universalist" carries other connotations. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2016 03:30 PM (zc3Db) Fucking Unitarians *plots a violent overthrow of local UU church's walkathon team at next cancer fundraiser*

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:34 AM (xuouz)

372 osted by: ace at January 29, 2016 03:20 PM (dciA+) Ii wasn't suggesting that you didn't know that Trump was narcissistic and boorish. It's also been clear that you would prefer Cruz and that each man could benefit from gaining personality traits of the other one. That's why my "ideal" (as ideal as one can get regarding politicians) would be if they were on a team together, but I don't see it happening, Trump wouldn't pick Cruz as VP and Trump wouldn't want to be Cruz' VP. And actually aside from giving Trump some advice re the Constitution I think he'd be rather wasted as VP

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2016 10:34 AM (w4NZ8)

373 Carlson starts out very well. His description of the disconnect between the GOPe and the average Republican (hell, American) voter is on-the-nose. They don't have the same problems, they don't see those problems and dismiss them as ignorance or racism--particularly immigration. The problem is that Trump is not a solution. He's maybe identified it, perhaps even a catalyst for it, but he has no interest in anything resembling an answer. He wants vastly bigger government, mostly to make whatever "deals" he thinks are essential to governing. On his signature issue, he's in favor of "Touchback Amnesty". Yes, he mentions building a wall and with gusto. Sounds great. He's speaking taboos and that's exciting. But it's all underpants gnomes with this guy. HE EXPRESSES MY ANGER! Then what? It's not about Trump. It's not about Trump at all. It's about you. You want to be heard. You want them to listen. They are in charge and you are on the outside. Everytime you vote for somebody, he or she becomes them. But where Tucker goes completely off the rails is Trump's ability to win. No way in Hell he wins the general election. No way in Hell. Here are some numbers: Trump: 34.4/57.8 Bush: 29.0./54.2 Clinton: 42.2/51.4 Those are RCP favorable/unfavorables. Unfavorables do not change. Once people hate you, they hate you forever. Ace was on Twitter last night saying how he didn't see Rubio's charm and why people commented on it. Why? Because Rubio's already got the black mark from him. Ace can't see anything but Go8 and Ace will never stop seeing it. Whether Ace goes through the Five Stages of Pragmatism fully or not, the casual voter who finds a politician unfavorable is not coming back. The GOP cannot, cannot, cannot nominate Trump or Bush. Then the whole idea of America is done. And it's been in a lot more danger before -- Wilson, Roosevelt, Johnson, Carter. I'm furious it came to this. I couldn't believe Rubio's jumping feet-first into Gang of 8. These people have the Internet, they can read blogs. I couldn't believe Cruz argued for the tripling of H1Bs. Make all the arguments about economic growth that you want, people don't want jobs given away. At least Romney had a clue. He might or might not have been credible, but he spoke to immigration. He knew somehow what people were saying about it. What I could believe is that Trump came out against Romney's immigration record as being too aggressive. The Con Man gives you what you want in the moment. He knows you'll buy the 120 proof medicine if he sells it to you right from the wagon. You'll go home, it won't help you and he'll be gone to the next town. Trump won't care. He's just doing a bit. It's another reality show, another wrestling appearance. Then he moves on and blames the jerks who betrayed him. How big is the list of people we're supposed to hate because of Trump? It now includes Fox News. (But not CNN.) It includes Ted Cruz. (But not Hillary Clinton.) It doesn't include Reid, Pelosi or Schumer because Trump is friends with them. It's not about what Trump says or what Trump believes or what Trump says he believes. It's about Trump. And Trump isn't about you.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 29, 2016 10:34 AM (Xd2w5)

374 Because he's a disgusting, morally bankrupt human being unfit for the office of the Presidency?


I wonder sometimes if people understand what a politician is.



Posted by: Mortimer at January 29, 2016 03:27 PM (R1a9g)


We are not Democrats... things like that still matter to us.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 10:34 AM (OrI3J)

375 You can't trust a politician 1000 miles away in DC, but you are going to trust a guy 200 yards away that didn't prepare? I'd trust my neighbor a hell of a lot more than any politician. At the very least, he's within range.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:34 AM (39g3+)

376 The DM had some story about a tranny kid. He's 17 and looks like a hooker. He doesnt want the full operation, iow, balls and peen stays. But, I find it weird when your kid dresses like a total slut. You wouldnt allow your daughter to prance around that way so why wd you allow a son?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 10:35 AM (iQIUe)

377 Always wanted a M-1, oh well

Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2016 10:35 AM (hk3Fb)

378 Afternoon all Any flame wars going on

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 10:35 AM (DUoqb)

379 Jr. Black graduated high school last year. Bow ties are all the rage now. Most of the boys wore them to graduation. I always thought they were dorky. Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun Everything old is new again. Like Venezuelan toilet paper.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2016 10:35 AM (FkBIv)

380 I have scrolled up and down and found nothing offensive.
Posted by: Mortimer


heh... that's the funniest part...  there is none.   Chi totally trolled him... and I laughed.  and love Chi and the youngish (less than 4 years on the blog) Ghost of Kari myself

Posted by: Yip und dos Corinthians at January 29, 2016 10:36 AM (e7T6D)

381 Because he's a disgusting, morally bankrupt human being unfit for the office of the Presidency? I wonder sometimes if people understand what a politician is. Posted by: Mortimer at January 29, 2016 03:27 PM (R1a9g) Yeah, THIS^^^^ too. I tend to be a fairly optimistic person. However, the Obama Era has been a remarkably clarifying experience. And now, Trump's mere presence in the primaries is rendering things even clearer. Politicians, every single one of them, need an electro-shock collar so that we can stop them from going all fucko on us. Plus, an explosive charge when they prove themselves to be Fucko Grandes, and thus irredeemable. It's my fervent hope that Cruz is, at least, 25% a better human being than the rest of the fucktards in the Presidential race.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 29, 2016 10:36 AM (0cMkb)

382 I think Alex nailed it when she said Cruz looks like Count Chocula when most Americans are Boo Berry types.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2016 10:36 AM (4ErVI)

383 Then get plenty of SKSs. Cheap, and they probably aren't familiar enough with the manual of arms to wring the most out of an AR.

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 29, 2016 03:30 PM (t06LC)

I just put my Yugo SKS in a Choate Draganov stock, replaced the trigger assembly, the piston and the recoil spring.  It's a dreamboat of a rifle, accurate and uber-reliable.

Posted by: troyriser at January 29, 2016 10:36 AM (UWlp+)

384 Everything old is new again. ------------------ That's the DNC convention's theme this year.

Posted by: Roy at January 29, 2016 10:36 AM (VndSC)

385 "Anyone else rationalize buying extra rifles for arming your neighbors? Or just me?"

most of my neighbors are either horrified by firearms, or actively hate  them... sometimes both. and the few other shooters in the area tend to not talk about ownership because of that. we'll see what happens when that day comes, be it a major quake, an "uprising" or some  other man made disaster...

i just figure i might not have time to reload once the shooting starts, what with this being #Failifornia and all its bullet buttons, magazine restrictions, etc.

it's better to have and not need than need and not have.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 29, 2016 10:36 AM (bT0b6)

386 About F*cko, you gotta use it strategically. For example, you don't start out negotiations with "listen up, f*cko..."

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:36 AM (39g3+)

387 366 Naw ... no SKS armory. M1 Garands. heh Posted by: Yip und dos Corinthians at January 29, 2016 03:33 PM (e7T6D) *Nods approvingly Gotta be careful with newbies on the M1. She can be an unforgiving mistress to the unanointed.

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 29, 2016 10:36 AM (t06LC)

388 353 Jr. Black graduated high school last year. Bow ties are all the rage now. Most of the boys wore them to graduation. I always thought they were dorky.Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at January 29, 2016 03:22 PM (pVkEV) I can sport a bow tie. The secret lies in looking like you want to wear it, to own it like a boss. But then, I argue the guy in the giant weiner costume strolling the sidewalk outside the diner can be ascool as Steve McQueen if he throws off self-consciousness and just goes with it. Chicks dig confidence. Posted by: troyriser at January 29, 2016 03:31 PM (UWlp+) Bow Ties in the black community signal, among other things, membership with or sympathy with the Farrakhan's Nation of Islam.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 10:36 AM (s5o+q)

389 351 No, I'm not messing with yo at all. And, I hate to be a hall monitor, but you come across as a bit of a... um... jerk sometimes. Your "sarcasm" isn't as clear as you apparently think it is. Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 03:31 PM (fSuK4) Sorry man

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:37 AM (xuouz)

390 386 About F*cko, you gotta use it strategically. For example, you don't start out negotiations with "listen up, f*cko..." Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 03:36 PM (39g3+) *scribbles furiously*

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:37 AM (xuouz)

391 We wear bow ties while you gaze our hips, thighs and fantasize! Barry & Reggie do!

Posted by: Chippendales at January 29, 2016 10:37 AM (vdDNV)

392 Tuckers argument is a ridiculous plea for identity politics of a weird variety. He claims Trump is the perfect candidate to clean up DC because he has engaged in corrupt politics himself . By the same argument Adolf Hitler would be the perfect person to end anti-semitism .

Posted by: mr burns at January 29, 2016 10:37 AM (1Arcq)

393 I just put my Yugo SKS in a Choate Draganov stock, replaced the trigger assembly, the piston and the recoil spring. It's a dreamboat of a rifle, accurate and uber-reliable. Posted by: troyriser at January 29, 2016 03:36 PM (UWlp+) Good man. I've been meaning to get a Yugo SKS or two to go with my Yugo Aks.

Posted by: Jollyroger at January 29, 2016 10:37 AM (t06LC)

394 I'm glad that so far we have a Trump thread which veers off to debate the relative merits of bow ties rather than calling each other ass**** or being told to GFY because we do nor do not support Trump. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2016 10:37 AM (w4NZ8)

395 @377...  Skip.....   get cha one or two.  CMP.org.  Totally awesome.  Price ranges from $600 to $1100.  Depends on what you get.  When you buy one and it comes to you in the mail... a liberal loses his shit somewhere. 

For realz.

Posted by: Yip und dos Corinthians at January 29, 2016 10:38 AM (e7T6D)

396 You don't take a $700 million inheritance and turn it into $9 billion by being taken.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 03:06 PM (SAhpk)


Yes he is a winning winner who wins... now how much of that wealth never exists in a theoretical world where Trump doesn't get to buy influence or stiff his investors?

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 10:38 AM (OrI3J)

397 Article over at Instapundit speculating about Trump's first hundred days in office. Overlooks two things: 1.Trump will have to spend a lot of time learning about areas like geopolitics, military, environment and science about which he seems to know as much as the average fat broad in they King Mullen frozen foods aisle 2. Trump will have to learn to work with people he cannot fire. When has he ever had to do that? Not gonna leave a lot of those 100 days left over.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 29, 2016 10:38 AM (SFo1N)

398 Gotta be careful with newbies on the M1. She can be an unforgiving mistress to the unanointed. I would love to redesign the Garand. Have it take BAR mags instead of enbloc clips.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 10:38 AM (SAhpk)

399 The fact that he's right, doesn't mean he can effectively (or positively) govern. Demagoguery is a different skill set from governing.

Posted by: PBJ1515 at January 29, 2016 10:38 AM (r1du+)

400 399 The fact that he's right, doesn't mean he can effectively (or positively) govern. Demagoguery is a different skill set from governing. Posted by: PBJ1515 at January 29, 2016 03:38 PM (r1du+) Tell that to Orock Barama!

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:39 AM (xuouz)

401 "You wouldnt allow your daughter to prance around that way so why wd you allow a son?" why be coherent when you're punished for it

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 10:39 AM (8Vn+p)

402 I am confused. Can you cite a slight here that was offensive? I have scrolled up and down and found nothing offensive. Posted by: Mortimer --------------- OK - call me a beta - Mr. Sensitive, but: #261 - "You're so stupid for thinking those vets will ever see a dime of that money."

Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 10:39 AM (fSuK4)

403 "Not everyone can afford a $700 rifle." At my age, with my eyesight, a $300 12ga is all I need.

Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 29, 2016 10:40 AM (BrgUe)

404 Posted by: AmishDude at January 29, 2016 03:34 PM (Xd2w5) Just look at the bright side. If Trump wins you'll have I Told You So privileges that you can lord over the entire Horde. That's FOUR YEARS of Absolute Moral Authority for the lousy price of an AoSHQ non-premium membership.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 29, 2016 10:40 AM (8ZskC)

405 "Give me liberty , or give me death, fucko".


Posted by: Patrick Henry's Secret Diary at January 29, 2016 10:40 AM (R1a9g)

406 331 I get way more pussy than Trump. Maybe I should run for president! My tiger blood will fuel a truth torpedo for the people! Plus, I'll legalize Coke. Posted by: Charlie Sheen at January 29, 2016 03:27 PM (CVhPs) Chuck, while you're there, you could also increase funding for aids research. Might do you good.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 10:40 AM (xWW96)

407 Plus, an explosive charge when they prove themselves to be Fucko Grandes, and thus irredeemable. Don't give me that button. I'd start hitting it like a monkey on crack just for the lulz.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 29, 2016 10:40 AM (9krrF)

408 I think Ted Cruz is the last gasp at having any dignity and decency in politics. I think he's it before we really do get straight up Idiocracy and Trump is the face of that new wave. Yes, I'd very much prefer statesmen with honor and dignity, men of character and nobility we can look up to and admire. Men who lead not just in power but in behavior which the nation is shaped by and better for. But they aren't out there, any more. If you don't swear and talk like a trucker, your s**t's all f**ked up and you talk like a fag.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:40 AM (39g3+)

409 Gotta be careful with newbies on the M1. She can be an unforgiving mistress to the unanointed.>>>

Word

Posted by: Smashed thumb at January 29, 2016 10:40 AM (XtAzU)

410 King KULLEN.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 29, 2016 10:41 AM (SFo1N)

411 Any flame wars going on Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 03:35 PM (DUoqb) *sniffs* Can't you smell it? That...gasoline smell?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 10:41 AM (hLRSq)

412 At office meeting found out couple of the guys loading up on ammo on line, thought prices were dirt cheap.

Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2016 10:41 AM (hk3Fb)

413 Bow Ties in the black community signal, among other things, membership with or sympathy with the Farrakhan's Nation of Islam. Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 03:36 PM (s5o+q) never heard that of course, there was Einstein, Schrodinger, Churchill lots of scientists did for some reason and statemen

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:41 AM (qCMvj)

414 The DM had some story about a tranny kid. He's 17 and looks like a hooker. He doesnt want the full operation, iow, balls and peen stays. But, I find it weird when your kid dresses like a total slut. You wouldnt allow your daughter to prance around that way so why wd you allow a son?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 03:35 PM (iQIUe)


Because at that point the parents don't know what to do with the kid.  They believe (and may well be right but it does not actually matter) that resistance will further entrench his idiocy. 


They may hope that allowing him to go through the "phase" will enable him to come back to his senses later. 


I do not envy parents in this era... it must be pure hell, all the madness working its way into their children's minds.  It must be noted, too, that the kid ending up this way does not necessarily mean bad parenting; in the end, every human being makes up their own mind about what to allow into their minds, and whether to let it change them or no. 


The parents may or may not have done a good job of raising him, but in the end, the boy chooses for himself what his life will be like. 


The Moody Blues had it right when they said Just what you want to be, you will be in the end.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 29, 2016 10:41 AM (6JL3d)

415 make the upper class deal with what the middle and lower classes have dealt with for years and watch how quick the donor class and the pols they buy suddenly realize the need for a true border and an honest immigration system instead of the pretend border and crony system we have now Won't happen. Their professions mostly hinge on being native English speakers (law, journalism, other writing). There is a natural barrier to entry and as long as we have immigration quotas that disfavor the Anglosphere, this will not be a problem for them. When you compete against a base of 6 billion as opposed to 400 million, it puts you at a big disadvantage in the Supply/Demand game.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 29, 2016 10:41 AM (Xd2w5)

416 Aww Chi I thought you *were* trolling. I was posing as an anti-Trumpeter and paraphrasing coarse rebuttals that I have with mine own eyes seen here on this very blog. The "sucking democrat dick" line I actually plagiarised directly from a comment made on an earlier thread today, but only because I've been a victim of excessive exposure to Amy Schumer references here on the 'Q for the past four days.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:41 AM (xuouz)

417 OK - call me a beta - Mr. Sensitive, but: #261 - "You're so stupid for thinking those vets will ever see a dime of that money." Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 03:39 PM (fSuK4) I'll allow it.

Posted by: The AoSHQ Comment Civility Enforcement Officer at January 29, 2016 10:42 AM (8ZskC)

418 412 At office meeting found out couple of the guys loading up on ammo on line, thought prices were dirt cheap. Posted by: Skip

I see what you did there

Posted by: Cheaper than dirt online at January 29, 2016 10:42 AM (e7T6D)

419 Don't give me that button. I'd start hitting it like a monkey on crack just for the lulz. As cartoonish as it was, with the fireworks and all, the scene of all the elite's heads exploding in Kingsmen was very rewarding. Obama: boom. Prince Charles: boom....

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:42 AM (39g3+)

420 Just look at the bright side. If Trump wins you'll have I Told You So privileges that you can lord over the entire Horde. That's FOUR YEARS of Absolute Moral Authority for the lousy price of an AoSHQ non-premium membership. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 29, 2016 03:40 PM (8ZskC) Yawn. I'm always right anyway. That's nothing new.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 29, 2016 10:43 AM (Xd2w5)

421 Any flame wars going on Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 03:35 PM (DUoqb) Actually the last few months have reminded me more of 40-year-old single mothers fighting over a backstage pass at a Justin Bieber concert.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at January 29, 2016 10:43 AM (bLnSU)

422 nood

Posted by: The AoSHQ Comment Civility Enforcement Officer at January 29, 2016 10:43 AM (8ZskC)

423 Nood if you want an escape

Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 10:43 AM (2x3L+)

424 It's a sign of how ideologically vapid the Dems are that half the comments at Politico on Carlson's article are "Boy, Jon Stewart really showed you 15 years ago, and that means you have nothing of value to say".

Posted by: Ian S. at January 29, 2016 10:43 AM (znyNk)

425 I hear lefties talking comfortably now about how democracy has outlived its usefulness the Mandarin Class is feeling its muscle

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 10:43 AM (8Vn+p)

426  I've been a victim of excessive exposure to Amy Schumer references here on the 'Q for the past four days. Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR


THIS


Posted by: Pajama Boy with smalling hands at January 29, 2016 10:43 AM (e7T6D)

427 It's a pointless piece... I still don't get it.
I mean I get the argument... but it's meaningless to me.

The GOP failed to get ANYTHING Conservative done, they don't even want to!
True.  100% True.

So lets elect a left-center liberal who promotes liberal ideas as our candidate; as he'll get Conservative stuff done!
And now I feel like I've had a stroke and words have no meaning.

Posted by: gekkobear at January 29, 2016 10:43 AM (WyK2E)

428 16 Why is Carlson writing for Politico? Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 02:42 PM (iQIUe) Tucker is their token Conservative that Politico trots out. He was on MSNBC just to get pummeled by all the usual leftists for the same reason. For MSNBC and CNN, conservatives are only allowed in two forms: 1. "Beautiful Losers" like Tucker Carlson 2. "Obvious Ogres", like Pat Buchanan

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 29, 2016 10:44 AM (GsebS)

429 418 if I was selling, but I'm not

Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2016 10:44 AM (hk3Fb)

430 Yawn. I'm always right anyway. That's nothing new. Posted by: AmishDude at January 29, 2016 03:43 PM (Xd2w5) Sounds like a Trump quote.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 10:44 AM (xWW96)

431 Farrakhan's bodyguards all wear bow ties. It's part of the Fruit of Islam uniform.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2016 10:44 AM (FkBIv)

432 #398 Beretta redesigned the Garand for box mags in the 50's.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 29, 2016 10:44 AM (SFo1N)

433 I think Ted Cruz is the last gasp at having any dignity and decency in politics. I think he's it before we really do get straight up Idiocracy and Trump is the face of that new wave.

Yes, I'd very much prefer statesmen with honor and dignity, men of character and nobility we can look up to and admire. Men who lead not just in power but in behavior which the nation is shaped by and better for.

But they aren't out there, any more. If you don't swear and talk like a trucker, your s**t's all f**ked up and you talk like a fag.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 03:40 PM (39g3+)


There are some out there still, CT... its just hard to see them past the Obamas, McTurtles and Boehner/Ryans.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 10:44 AM (OrI3J)

434 ...we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender...



Fuckos.

Posted by: Churchill's Original Draft at January 29, 2016 10:45 AM (R1a9g)

435 2. Trump will have to learn to work with people he cannot fire. When has he ever had to do that? I think one nice solution to the no firing thang- would be to by a large parcel of land near a crappy, isolated border town like Del Rio, TX. Set up a bunch of low cost trailer homes fitted with crappy desks and chairs- and transfer hundreds, if not thousands of the bureaucrats with a cut in pay of course to the new federal gov't facility. A cornfield in Kansas would work almost as well. Then sit back and watch the resignations roll in.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 29, 2016 10:45 AM (0cMkb)

436 Democracy loosing it's value? Hello no, socialists love democracy so 51% can run all over the 49%

Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2016 10:46 AM (hk3Fb)

437 377 Always wanted a M-1, oh well

unless i missed something, CMP still has them, and you can shop around on line, or at your local FFL.

there's one on the rack at Oaktree up in Sagus for $900, that's been sitting there for a couple months now.  it's got a goofy laminate stock, which can be either ignored or swapped out.

bigger issue is that the bolt won't go all the way back, but that might just be a matter of someone assembling it wrong.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 29, 2016 10:46 AM (bT0b6)

438 never heard that of course, there was Einstein, Schrodinger, Churchill lots of scientists did for some reason and statemen Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 03:41 PM (qCMvj) Top hats and morning coats were stylish at one time, as well.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 10:46 AM (s5o+q)

439 Bow Ties in the black community signal, among other things, membership with or sympathy with the Farrakhan's Nation of Islam.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 03:36 PM (s5o+q)

I'm pretty sure I won't be mistaken for a member of the Nation of Islam. 

Posted by: troyriser at January 29, 2016 10:46 AM (UWlp+)

440 He's dumb about the Born Again bit, missing the entire 8 years of the Bush presidency (especially compared to the vicious hostility toward Christians now), but its not a bad article. Is he? How did some of those Republican appointees turn out with gay "marriage"?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (GsebS)

441 Oh good gravy...have we talked about this yet? If we did, sad I missed the convo. Some guy with the moniker of @aguywithnolife on Twitter wrote a hate fanfic of Donald Trump sexytimes. But it up on Amazon, was #1. All the major papers have talked about/reviewed the fanfic, apparently. http://wpo.st/Vrc71 We have reached peak weirdness in this election cycle.

Posted by: LizLem at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (hvf9s)

442 I think Alex nailed it when she said Cruz looks like Count Chocula when most Americans are Boo Berry types. Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2016 03:36 PM (4ErVI) I dunno about that. Which of the candidates seems to make an emotional connection with the voters? Which one seems to have the "common touch"? This is a political campaign, not an issue of Imprimis. It's going to be a lot more of the calliope than Cicero. Issues, when they actually appear at all, are going to be those that a person can understand with their gut. Few people have sufficient information to make a logical decision based upon issues, they ride on their experience and instinct. Those issues that really hit home on a gut level are those that are going to drive the old circus train onward. That position paper discussing the importance of the second comma in the Second Amendment may really get your small circle all a-swoon, but it means nothing out on the campaign trail.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (hLRSq)

443 Tucker is their token Conservative that Politico trots out. He was on MSNBC just to get pummeled by all the usual leftists for the same reason. He had his own show on MSNBC when the network first started. So did Laura Ingraham and Michael Savage.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (FkBIv)

444 If you like the M1 check out the socom 16. Sweet indeed.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (xWW96)

445 I would love to redesign the Garand. Have it take BAR mags instead of enbloc clips. Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 03:38 PM (SAhpk) I thought they tried that, or something similar. Then again, M-14/M-1A.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (zYV5P)

446 They caught one of the Orange County escapees.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (iQIUe)

447 I've been a victim of excessive exposure to Amy Schumer references here on the 'Q for the past four days. Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR THIS Posted by: Pajama Boy with smalling hands at January 29, 2016 03:43 PM (e7T6D) THIS

Posted by: Amy Schumer at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (0cMkb)

448 I really surprised that people can get that excited over Trump or for Cruz. I trust neither, but they are the top of the crop. Trump is Trump. NY Democrat with a foot on both sides of an issue. IF he is actually a nationalist, then HOPEFULLY he will deal with the immigration and Islamic threats as a priority. Cruz was my favorite til the Iran deal. That was a serious breach of trust. At least he ended up right on TPA* So we will have to see if either gets elected AND does the right things. That right thing is going to have to start with a lot of preemptive action against "the system", which will be in full opposition (leftists, burrocrats, gope curruptocrats united). That preemptive action is going to have to be a "pen and phone" presidency, as much as WE hate that. At least it would be great to throw that back in the face of Obama cultists. * I was under the impression that Cruz had voted for TPA; just now looked up he went with the right vote. There is so much going on in politics and in the convoluted way that things are "reported" that you have to spend a lot of time wonking out. No wonder LIV's take the easy way out and just accept what they are told

Posted by: Grad School Fool at January 29, 2016 10:49 AM (A9KzJ)

449 We have reached peak weirdness in this election cycle. Posted by: LizLem I'll bet we still have a ways to go before peak weirdness is achieved.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2016 10:49 AM (FkBIv)

450 I think Ted Cruz is the last gasp at having any dignity and decency in politics. I think he's it before we really do get straight up Idiocracy and Trump is the face of that new wave. Posted by: Christopher Taylor It's amazing how we tend to think "our guy" is as pure as driven snow and his character will rescue America. Someone like Mitt Romney had impeachable character, he's probably the most decent human being to ever run for the White House, but what does that get us? For the record, Cruz is just as two-faced as any other person running for office this cycle, he has flip flopped on all sorts of major issues. He has done a complete 180 on the central issue in this campaign

Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 10:49 AM (6U2tl)

451 Well, the government has classified 22 of Hillary's emails as Top Secret.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 10:49 AM (xWW96)

452 52 It IS a good piece. News is too depressing lately. I'm grabbing a beer and going outside to throw sticks for the dog, who happens to be named for the boyish Mr. Carlson.* *I can't conform this, as I didn't name him, but it has always been my suspicion. Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 02:48 PM (fSuK4) Was he named for Tucker Max, perhaps?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 29, 2016 10:49 AM (GsebS)

453 and transfer hundreds, if not thousands of the bureaucrats with a cut in pay of course to the new federal gov't facility. A cornfield in Kansas would work almost as well. Then sit back and watch the resignations roll in. Posted by: naturalfake at January 29, 2016 03:45 PM (0cMkb) I've always thought that Boise City, Oklahoma would be ideal for a new federal capital. Just have Oklahoma cede that one county, move in the trailers and cheap steel desks, and tell the Feds to have a nice day. Or, alternatively, Mission, South Dakota. Or Thedford, Nebraska.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 10:50 AM (s5o+q)

454 My .326 has a downrange muzzle-loader 492 on the weazer hinge that accounts for blast resistance.

Posted by: What every thread becomes eventually at January 29, 2016 10:50 AM (vgIRn)

455 430 Yawn. I'm always right anyway. That's nothing new. Posted by: AmishDude at January 29, 2016 03:43 PM (Xd2w5) Sounds like a Trump quote. Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 03:44 PM (xWW96) Exactly. But at least I will tell you that I'm doing a bit.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 29, 2016 10:50 AM (Xd2w5)

456 Was he named for Tucker Max, perhaps? Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 29, 2016 03:49 PM (GsebS) Good looks, I almost made this reference earlier. But decided it was too low brow

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:51 AM (xuouz)

457 The Richochet poll ask Who did best at the debate? Rubio 51% Who did second best? Rubio 9% Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 29, 2016 10:51 AM (VdICR)

458

It's amazing how we tend to think "our guy" is as pure as driven snow and his character will rescue America.

Someone like Mitt Romney had impeachable character, he's probably the most decent human being to ever run for the White House, but what does that get us?

For the record, Cruz is just as two-faced as any other person running for office this cycle, he has flip flopped on all sorts of major issues. He has done a complete 180 on the central issue in this campaign



Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 03:49 PM (6U2tl)


I presume you mean unimpeachable character. 


A guy working to protect partial birth abortion does not get unimpeachable character designation.  He doesn't get jack shit. 


Good golly, will the Romney worship never end?

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at January 29, 2016 10:52 AM (6JL3d)

459 What I think the inside Washington GOP folks don't understand... is a very simple thing... the Repub party has only 24% of Registered voters as Members... Less than 1/4.... 29% are Dem.... Less than a THIRD... 42% are registered independent... So the largest voting block of the electorate has REJECTED the message of BOTH parties... think on that a second... A party that represents less than 1/4 of the electorate, is able to hold power in both Houses of Congress.... and may win the Presidency... While a party with less than a Third of the electorate, has somehow driven the agenda in Washington for many years... People no longer trust EITHER party, yet are only supposed to vote for One or the Other... Then.... in comes Trump.... outsider... pissing off BOTH parties Elite Politicians and talking heads... The very people that the 42% have rejected...

Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 10:52 AM (f7rv6)

460 Incidentally: The last debate rated 6 out of 7th in terms of ratings and viewers. Trump stepping out kicked them right in the money bags. It's amazing how we tend to think "our guy" is as pure as driven snow and his character will rescue America. He's a lawyer and a politician. At no point did I say he was blameless and wonderful. The last gasp at something is not its zenith, it is the last sputtering breath wheezed out before dying. I should think that's pretty obvious from the wording.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:52 AM (39g3+)

461 Top hats and morning coats were stylish at one time, as well.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 03:46 PM (s5o+q)


My kids watch old movies with me (Cary Grant, Humphrey Bogart, etc.) and comment on how much better people dressed back then and how they acted more sophisticated and grown up. Maybe we could start a positive trend among young people by starting revival theaters and running pre-1950's movies on a loop.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 10:52 AM (OrI3J)

462 It's amazing how we tend to think "our guy" is as pure as driven snow and his character will rescue America. Someone like Mitt Romney had impeachable character, he's probably the most decent human being to ever run for the White House, but what does that get us? For the record, Cruz is just as two-faced as any other person running for office this cycle, he has flip flopped on all sorts of major issues. He has done a complete 180 on the central issue in this campaign Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 03:49 PM (6U2tl) There is no perfect candidate. Even Romney had his faults. The only thing somebody can do is decide for his/herself whether the flaws of any particular candidate overwhelm the good that candidate might do. Oddly enough, different people make differing judgments regarding both the flaws and the good points of various candidates. I mean, even Hillary F'ing Clinton still has supporters. As astonishing as that is for anyone who has a passing familiarity with reality.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 10:52 AM (s5o+q)

463 I've never had a problem putting on a tie. I've had serious problems working in one for ten hours or so. Also, it's hard to find a regular tie that's long enough to take a full-Windsor knot if you're over six feet tall. They end up like a bib.

On AOP's behalf, if you encounter someone in your oilfield who is as sharp dressed as James Bond, there's an excellent chance that he's just placed an elegantly shaped charge on your crown block. Do not ask me how I know this.

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at January 29, 2016 10:53 AM (xq1UY)

464 Wow! All y'all really have tuned out of cable/Fox News. Tucker is the regular co-host of Fox and Friends on the weekends. He sits right next to Anna Kooiman on the 'curvy couch'. I think he is vying for Doocy I's spot on weekdays...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at January 29, 2016 10:54 AM (Bi1Tt)

465 Well for you want a candidate who hasn't changed their mind in 84 years vote for Bernie

Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2016 10:54 AM (hk3Fb)

466 On AOP's behalf, if you encounter someone in your oilfield who is as sharp dressed as James Bond, there's an excellent chance that he's just placed an elegantly shaped charge on your crown block. Probably just popped out of a scuba suit, too.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2016 10:55 AM (FkBIv)

467 Then.... in comes Trump.... outsider... pissing off BOTH parties Elite Politicians and talking heads... The very people that the 42% have rejected... Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 03:52 PM (f7rv6) Don't assume Independents are disillusioned. Or that they're disillusioned for the same reasons you are. They could be Democrats who are afraid of the label.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 29, 2016 10:56 AM (Xd2w5)

468 What's wrong with people changing their positions on issues? I have. Only problem is running on one issue and changing after you elected.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 10:57 AM (iQIUe)

469 A guy working to protect partial birth abortion does not get unimpeachable character designation. He doesn't get jack shit. Good golly, will the Romney worship never end? Posted by: Kinley Ardal Oh please, I don't worship Romney, I think he was a horrible choice, but he was a good man. He has always said he opposes abortion on a moral level the idea that if you're not some Santorum type politician you're evil is nonsense (and Santorum's wife worked for an abortion doctor and Santorum himself started out as pro-choice) The idea that someone's character can be derived from where they stand on legal issues is some real high horse bullshit that I'm glad to see is getting kicked to the curb I guess if someone doesn't want to outlaw adultery they're also evil as well since they're endorsing it by not wanting to make it illegal

Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 10:57 AM (6U2tl)

470 When you place liquid nitrogen tanks that close to the laser array, you're kind of asking for it.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 29, 2016 10:58 AM (VdICR)

471 Incidentally: The last debate rated 6 out of 7th in terms of ratings and viewers. Trump stepping out kicked them right in the money bags.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 03:52 PM (39g3+)

He apparently did (because Fox accepted cheaper ad buys) even though his no show does not appear to have affected the debate ratings:




Ratings for debates fall as the debate cycle happens. 23 million people watched CNN's first debate but only 11 million watched CNN's second debate. Similarly, 24 million watched the first Fox News debate (the first debate of the cycle so I would expect it to have the highest ratings) but only 13 million watched the second Fox news debate. Those numbers do not support the theory that Trump Trumped all over the debate by not showing up.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 10:58 AM (OrI3J)

472 Don't assume Independents are disillusioned. Or that they're disillusioned for the same reasons you are. They could be Democrats who are afraid of the label. Posted by: AmishDude at January 29, 2016 03:56 PM (Xd2w5) And you immediately assume that I am incorrect... How.... predictable....

Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 10:58 AM (f7rv6)

473 Calling yourself "independent" to a poll taker is the same as telling them that you are not rigid in your thinking and are open to wondrous ideas.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2016 10:59 AM (FkBIv)

474 Incidentally: The last debate rated 6 out of 7th in terms of ratings and viewers. Trump stepping out kicked them right in the money bags. This is ridiculous goalpost-moving. The lowest rated debate was the one immediately before this. The ratings were in a decline (naturally, early debates were characterized by Trump and people wanted to see the trainwreck). They bumped back without Trump. For people tired of spin, Trump fans sure like to spin. Trump's event was on 2 other networks and got a TOTAL of 1/4th the viewership. Trump screwed up. He made a silly rash decision and tried to cover up for it. And he couldn't make a deal to come back for it. Heh.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 29, 2016 10:59 AM (Xd2w5)

475 For the record, Cruz is just as two-faced as any other person running for office this cycle, he has flip flopped on all sorts of major issues. He has done a complete 180 on the central issue in this campaign



Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 03:49 PM (6U2tl)


No he hasn't... as Megyn Kelly admitted AFTER she tried a gotcha with that same BS flip flop claim in the debate.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 11:01 AM (OrI3J)

476 This is just cruel, like out of the Saw movie series. He's obviously got an explosive jock on or something. It's gonna blow if he cracks and accidentally tells the truth.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 11:01 AM (EjBTO)

477 And Trump isn't about you. Posted by: AmishDude at January 29, 2016 03:34 PM (Xd2w5) TL/DR But see, in your blindness, you read Carlson's article as an endorsement of Trump, when all it is, is an analysis of why Trump is a phenomenon. You know, I am beginning to believe that Trump is evil. Because, by sheer force of personality, he has turned you from a witty, respected commenter here, into an obsessed monomaniac.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2016 11:02 AM (Z8fuk)

478 For the record, Cruz is just as two-faced as any other person running for office this cycle, he has flip flopped on all sorts of major issues. He has done a complete 180 on the central issue in this campaign Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 03:49 PM (6U2tl) No he hasn't... ______________________________ "Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he (Cruz) stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay. "The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight," he said during a recent visit to El Paso. ... Mr. Cruz said recent polling indicated that people outside Washington support some reform, including legal status without citizenship. Besides barring citizenship while instituting some level of legalization for those here already, Mr. Cruz has proposed increasing the number of green cards awarded annually, to 1.35 million from 675,000. He also wants to eliminate the per-country limit that he said left applicants from countries like Mexico, China and India hamstrung when they tried to gain legal entry to this country.

Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 11:03 AM (6U2tl)

479 ""I've looked at the legal arguments against [birthright citizenship], and I will tell you as a Supreme Court litigator, those arguments are not very good. As much as someone may dislike the policy of birthright citizenship, it's in the U.S. Constitution." Ted Cruz

Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 11:03 AM (6U2tl)

480 Or, alternatively, Mission, South Dakota. Or Thedford, Nebraska.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 03:50 PM (s5o+q)


I'd vote for the dark side of the moon.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 11:03 AM (OrI3J)

481 191 >>>Huh. Good piece. I always had Tucker Carlson pegged as a David Brooks-esque faggot. Carlson and his wife have 4 children, and Carlson hunts and fishes and chewed tobacco until about a year ago. I found that out when I watched Carlson and several other conservative writers (including Lileks, O'Rourke, and Goldberg) give a pretty amusing talk at the Heritage Center on a book about fatherhood they all contributed to. (It's on YouTube and makes for entertaining watching). They were all funny, but Carlson stole the show.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 29, 2016 11:04 AM (u0lmX)

482 And you immediately assume that I am incorrect... How.... predictable.... Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 03:58 PM (f7rv6) Look, I'm not saying you are stupid, I'm saying that if you were stupid, it wouldn't make any difference. Seriously, it's crazy to think that just because people register as Independents, that they are in your corner. People register as Independents to avoid getting mailings or for simple virtue signaling.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 29, 2016 11:04 AM (Xd2w5)

483 ""I've looked at the legal arguments against [birthright citizenship], and I will tell you as a Supreme Court litigator, those arguments are not very good. As much as someone may dislike the policy of birthright citizenship, it's in the U.S. Constitution."


Ted Cruz

Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 04:03 PM (6U2tl)


His comment on whether PRECEDENT would lead the Supreme Court  to negate birthright citizenship for children of illegals IS NOT an endorsement of that position.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 11:05 AM (OrI3J)

484 #261 - "You're so stupid for thinking those vets will ever see a dime of that money." Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 03:39 PM (fSuK4) That was sarcasm, for fuck's sake.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2016 11:06 AM (Z8fuk)

485 His comment on whether PRECEDENT would lead the Supreme Court to negate birthright citizenship for children of illegals IS NOT an endorsement of that position. Posted by: redbanzai Cruz clearly endorsed the "anchor baby" nonsense and now he's flip-flopping on it

Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 11:07 AM (6U2tl)

486 I said it before, it's an outsider election. The only real outsiders are Trump and Carson. Sucks to be an insider this time, oh well.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 29, 2016 11:08 AM (LXJ1e)

487 Megyn I'm afraid is very well a progressive journalist

Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2016 11:08 AM (hk3Fb)

488





Besides barring citizenship while instituting some level of legalization for those here already, Mr. Cruz has proposed increasing the number of green cards awarded annually, to 1.35 million from 675,000. He also wants to eliminate the per-country limit that he said left applicants from countries like Mexico, China and India hamstrung when they tried to gain legal entry to this country.

Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 04:03 PM (6U2tl)


Whatever you may think of LEGAL immigration... it is not "the issue" of the day.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 11:09 AM (OrI3J)

489 "Besides barring citizenship while instituting some level of legalization for those here already, Mr. Cruz has proposed increasing the number of green cards awarded annually, to 1.35 million from 675,000."

Cruz having proposed to quadruple the allowable H-1B visas (from numbers already boosted hugely under Obama) came up the other day.

A Cruz apologist said, well, Cruz had been informed that there was a terrible shortage of STEM workers in America, and once he was told that wasn't true, he walked back his proposal.

What I haven't been able to figure out is whether the original Cruz proposal said even one word about limiting those visas to bona fide STEM applicants.

Note as well that the vetting on these supposedly STEM-restricted H-1Bs is ridiculously lax. Around here there is the infamous story of a subcontinental immigrant landlord who was bringing in underage girls on H-1B STEM visas and then forcing them into prostitution. The feds didn't see anything weird about 14-year-olds being listed as highly experienced software engineers.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 11:09 AM (noWW6)

490 Here's a back to back video of Cruz flip flopping on the anchor baby question. http://tinyurl.com/hmwc8us

Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 11:09 AM (6U2tl)

491 Cruz clearly endorsed the "anchor baby" nonsense and now he's flip-flopping on it

Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 04:07 PM (6U2tl)



You are wrong.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 11:10 AM (OrI3J)

492 Whatever you may think of LEGAL immigration... it is not "the issue" of the day. Posted by: redbanzai Then why is Trump leading all the other Republican candidates by more than 2-1? It's not because of Trump's hair. Immigration as an issue, both legal and illegal, is why Trump is doing so well and why all the other candidates like Cruz are having to flip flop on the issue.

Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 11:11 AM (6U2tl)

493 You know, I am beginning to believe that Trump is evil. Because, by sheer force of personality, he has turned you from a witty, respected commenter here, into an obsessed monomaniac. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2016 04:02 PM (Z8fuk) He is. And you should not have DR. It's an easy read, rantish as it is.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 29, 2016 11:12 AM (Xd2w5)

494 http://tinyurl.com/j4k43w3 Heh.

Posted by: Asparagus Tuteme Ex Infernis at January 29, 2016 11:14 AM (sMX/K)

495 Cruz was part of a group of Latinos in Texas called HAPI. One of the positions he worked on as part of that group was legalization of illegal immigrants. Members of that group have flat out called Cruz a liar for saying he never supported legalization.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 29, 2016 11:16 AM (LXJ1e)

496 And you should not have DR. It's an easy read, rantish as it is. Posted by: AmishDude at January 29, 2016 04:12 PM (Xd2w5) And every word of it culled from your endless list of prior posts saying the same thing. You don't like Trump. We get it. But those who do like Trump, have read your rants, and found them wanting. You aren't gaining any converts. More likely, you are driving the undecided straight into the arms of Trump.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2016 11:18 AM (Z8fuk)

497 495. Cruz has been on the record so many times about his legalization plans that's it's not even debatable. He wanted to double work visas and let basically every illegal that already here stay Anyone that denies the guy has drastically changed his tune is lying and knows they're lying

Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 11:20 AM (6U2tl)

498 Cruz was part of a group of Latinos in Texas called HAPI. One of the positions he worked on as part of that group was legalization of illegal immigrants. Members of that group have flat out called Cruz a liar for saying he never supported legalization.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 29, 2016 04:16 PM (LXJ1e)


You guys are lying your asses off about this. At NO POINT has Ted Cruz supported amnesty.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 11:21 AM (OrI3J)

499 Cruz has been on the record so many times about his legalization plans that's it's not even debatable.

He wanted to double work visas and let basically every illegal that already here stay

Anyone that denies the guy has drastically changed his tune is lying and knows they're lying

Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 04:20 PM (6U2tl)


Tobasco you are wrong and you have not shown ANYTHING that hasn't been taken out of context to try and show you are right.



Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 11:24 AM (OrI3J)

500 Explain this video http://tinyurl.com/hmwc8us

Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 11:27 AM (6U2tl)

501 Posted by: AmishDude at January 29, 2016 03:59 PM (Xd2w5) Wrong. FBN is not as a widely distributed as FNC. Plus this was the last debate before the caucus. It's ratings should have been comparable to the August debate. Maybe even higher.

Posted by: Asparagus Tuteme Ex Infernis at January 29, 2016 11:31 AM (sMX/K)

502 Carlson's essay makes a lot of the same points Ace has been making, and Mark Steyn too. I liked early on, when he asked what all those conservative brainiac think-tanks have really accomplished with all the billions of dollars they've collected from the Right over the past decades. Nothing, really, and yet they're not ashamed of this abysmal record, and can't believe that anyone would suggest that they're just not up to the job. Watch, though: there's still time for them to try the rueful faced "We *hear* you!" gambit, with promises that this time they'll pay attention to our "concerns". This time for realz. They've lied for years to conservatives, and not only are they not ashamed to have this thrown in their faces, they can't even really understand it. Do they even know what a lie is anymore?

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at January 29, 2016 11:33 AM (gjLib)

503 Ratings for debates fall as the debate cycle happens. The advertisers dumped what they'd pay once he dropped out for a reason. They knew it meant fewer eyeballs.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 11:34 AM (39g3+)

504 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 04:34 PM (39g3+) Which is the whole point of watching the ratings in the first place.

Posted by: Asparagus Tuteme Ex Infernis at January 29, 2016 11:41 AM (sMX/K)

505 That's a relief, I thought they were the sign of a frustrated mechanical engineer. Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 29, 2016 03:33 PM (4WhSY) ________ Lotsa engineers and architects I know wear bowties because they draw and the hanging tie is a pain. Not so important now with CAD, but a few years ago that was why.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 29, 2016 11:45 AM (MIKMs)

506 Not fair to compare numbers of Trump vs Fox because his Veterans fundraiser was not shown complete on channels people usually have access to. Literally CNN was going in and out. And I bet only partial of those viewers watched the debate very long. I thought the article was spot on by Tucker and I laughed throughout. I hope the last laugh is on the globalists when President Trump is elected.

Posted by: gonzotx at January 29, 2016 11:48 AM (XPFe1)

507 The advertisers dumped what they'd pay once he dropped out for a reason. They knew it meant fewer eyeballs.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 04:34 PM (39g3+)


No, they THOUGHT it would mean fewer eyeballs. I am not seeing evidence there actually were fewer eyeballs than could be expected though. There were more viewers than the CNN debate before it and there were fewer viewers that dropped from the first to the second debate on Fox than on CNN (24 mil-13 mil = 11 mil  difference on Fox vs 23 mil -11 mil =  12 mil drop on CNN). That does not provide evidence to support the supposition that Trump's absence affected viewership.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 11:50 AM (OrI3J)

508 Plus this was the last debate before the caucus. It's ratings should have been comparable to the August debate. Maybe even higher.

Posted by: Asparagus Tuteme Ex Infernis at January 29, 2016 04:31 PM (sMX/K)


Please show any historical evidence to support your supposition.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 11:53 AM (OrI3J)

509 A large part of this pro-Trump argument consists of "well he couldn't be any worse than the Establishment has been." That's seductive because on some issues the GOPe has been awful. Immigration is probably the best possible example. But as much as I hate the Establishment, I can't blame them for too much of this country's decline over the past ~30 years. Nor can I blame the conservative intellectuals, who tend to agree that the Establishment is a bunch of sell-outs. I'll put it this way: the country has gotten more depraved over the past thirty years, but there's nothing any Republican could have done about it. Gay marriage was going to be a thing no matter what we did. We can try to push it off a couple of years, but the people want it. No Trump, no different GOP can defeat the Zeitgeist, and the Zeitgeist wants man-on-man anal to be celebrated. People in this country actually support that stuff. Similarly, yes, the government spends too much, and maybe with the right politicians we can cut that back somewhat. But the fact is that the ranks of the Free Shit Army are huge, and the bulk of the country - including many Republican voters - loves them some gibsmedat. If you're angry at the GOPe, fine. I want to replace them with real conservatives. But if you support Trump, you're basically throwing in the towel on all that stuff based on the *hope* - and that's all it is - that he'll do something about immigration.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at January 29, 2016 11:53 AM (IRqa0)

510 Explain this video
http://tinyurl.com/hmwc8us

Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 04:27 PM (6U2tl)


How about you explain this one: http://www.weeklystandard.com/sessions-ted-cruz-critical-to-blocking-amnesty/article/2000303


Or better yet, since you are all in for Trump, explain this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUCLwWCihE

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 11:59 AM (OrI3J)

511 WHUMP - WHUMP - WHUMP

Posted by: Mortimer[/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 12:00 PM (R1a9g)

512 And for the record, Tobasco, videos talking about what the law says NOW interspersed with video where Cruz talks about what he think the law should be changed to say are not contradictory or proof of a flip flop. You are disingenuous as you can be for misrepresenting that video.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 12:05 PM (OrI3J)

513 If you're angry at the GOPe, fine. I want to replace them with real conservatives. But if you support Trump, you're basically throwing in the towel on all that stuff based on the *hope* - and that's all it is - that he'll do something about immigration.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at January 29, 2016 04:53 PM (IRqa0)


He is our very own freaking Obama.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 12:06 PM (OrI3J)

514 Think about this, Horde. The owner of this blog was hesitant to link to an article on his own blog because of concerns that the mere linking and notation that it was well done would be taken as something more than it it. Yeah. Yeah, that says something and it's nothing good. Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 29, 2016 02:53 PM (mf5HN) ---- Thread Winner

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 29, 2016 12:08 PM (MbrzC)

515 It's a good piece. There's a lot to recommend in it. But there are also some gigantic lies in there: first and foremost that the country hasn't gotten more conservative in the last forty years. And, Tucker backs up this claim with two words: "Come on." Granted, Obama is an unvarnished leftist and he's out of the closet on that. But, if you want to take a stroll down memory lane, conservatives won on a lot of the biggest issues of the last few decades. No where is this more true than in the battle of capitalism v. socialism. We won that one, not just in the USA, but globally. It was our defining cause, and we won it so thoroughly that people have already forgotten how incredibly awful socialism is, and are flirting with our friend from Vermont. Even the Chinese remain communist in name only. Tough on crime. People forget. This was a huge issue through the Clinton administration. Conservatives won. Jail terms got way longer. Police got smart. Crime is down 50%. As with socialism, we won this issue so thoroughly that people are forgetting the lessons, and want to let criminals out of jail early again. Big, bad ass military. Sure, Obama and Clinton both let it wane in size, but these things go through cycles. But don't underestimate the impact of Reagan's military build-up, its dominance over the USSR, the Gulf War rout, and our (initial, at least) success in the Iraq war and Afghanistan on the views of the American public. They deeply believe in a strong foreign policy and a strong military. That's conservative, and it's a big part of Trump's appeal. Make America Great Again means make America Strong Again. Marginal tax rates. We won on this. They're never going back up to where they used to be. In fact, we won so thoroughly on this that it presents a problem for the country's long-term fiscal solvency: the middle class wants generous retirement benefits, but doesn't want to pay for them. There's plenty of other things that I won't mention because they're less important or fall into the category of standing athwart history and stopping liberals from messing things up, but the misery of the Obama years should not make us all forget that a great many conservative things have occurred in the last few decades.

Posted by: gts109 at January 29, 2016 12:20 PM (KIvt1)

516 It's a pretty weak piece, Ace, and the fact that you think it's a strong one makes me question your judgment. Charles Cooke demolishes it with an article on the Corner, probably because Charles is a much smarter man than Tucker (though I like Carlson overall).

Posted by: JoeC at January 29, 2016 12:24 PM (bYdfC)

517 490 Here's a back to back video of Cruz flip flopping on the anchor baby question. http://tinyurl.com/hmwc8us Posted by: Tobasco at January 29, 2016 04:09 PM (6U2tl) To say that leftist jurists would uphold birthright citizenship does not mean one likes it.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 29, 2016 12:31 PM (GsebS)

518 509 A large part of this pro-Trump argument consists of "well he couldn't be any worse than the Establishment has been." That's seductive because on some issues the GOPe has been awful. Immigration is probably the best possible example. But as much as I hate the Establishment, I can't blame them for too much of this country's decline over the past ~30 years. Nor can I blame the conservative intellectuals, who tend to agree that the Establishment is a bunch of sell-outs. I'll put it this way: the country has gotten more depraved over the past thirty years, but there's nothing any Republican could have done about it. Gay marriage was going to be a thing no matter what we did. We can try to push it off a couple of years, but the people want it. No Trump, no different GOP can defeat the Zeitgeist, and the Zeitgeist wants man-on-man anal to be celebrated. People in this country actually support that stuff. Similarly, yes, the government spends too much, and maybe with the right politicians we can cut that back somewhat. But the fact is that the ranks of the Free Shit Army are huge, and the bulk of the country - including many Republican voters - loves them some gibsmedat. If you're angry at the GOPe, fine. I want to replace them with real conservatives. But if you support Trump, you're basically throwing in the towel on all that stuff based on the *hope* - and that's all it is - that he'll do something about immigration. Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at January 29, 2016 04:53 PM (IRqa0) Sorry, the American people DO NOT want the levels of immigration--legal, let alone illegal--that we have now. But the elites keep pushing it. Why are you suprised Trump gets the cheers he does when he shouts from the rooftops that he will buck the elites?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 29, 2016 12:34 PM (GsebS)

519 318
It amazes me how dogs get attached to their collars. You take them off
to bath them but they are always happy when you pu them back on.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!

Yes.  I had a BBL (big black lab) once that would get very upset on the occasion of her collar removal.

She would try to stick her head back through it if you were carrying it or had set it down.

I wonder if, in some way, that collar was a symbol of belonging and she worried that if we removed it she didn't belong anymore.

Sweet dog.  Very intelligent.

Posted by: phaedrus at January 29, 2016 12:43 PM (u1kY2)

520 516 It's a pretty weak piece, Ace, and the fact that you think it's a strong one makes me question your judgment. Charles Cooke demolishes it with an article on the Corner, probably because Charles is a much smarter man than Tucker (though I like Carlson overall). Posted by: JoeC at January 29, 2016 05:24 PM (bYdfC) You buy into Charles Cooke's whistling past the national graveyard. Sad: Let's take this doozy of a quote from the article: But who, pray, is "they" when it comes to "open borders"? Name them. Really, Chuckie? Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Lindsey Graham, George Pataki, and John Kasich, to name just five. As well as the whole Wall Street Journal.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at January 29, 2016 12:43 PM (GsebS)

521 1) Flood all modern countries with third world military age guys 2) Institute trans-national governments in the name of trade agreements 3) Blend thoroughly 4) ? 5) Utopia

Posted by: Chilloutyo at January 29, 2016 12:54 PM (lQqJB)

522
Regarding Trump's crashing the elitist party from the inside (similar to Teddy Roosevelt), you gotta love this line from Carlson: 

"His privilege wasn't incidental; it was key to his appeal. Anyone can peer through the window in envy. It takes a real man to throw furniture through it from the inside."




Posted by: Trump Super Fan at January 29, 2016 01:03 PM (l2dSQ)

523 Brilliant, Tucker. Wonderful essay.

Posted by: pj at January 29, 2016 01:09 PM (cHuNI)

524 Youse guy should go over to Sarah Hoyt's site (accordingtohoyt.com) and read her posts about elections in Portugal.Scary how applicable they are.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at January 29, 2016 01:24 PM (N3PrB)

525 "You ain't the first son of a bitch to wake up out of their dream."


-Rowdy Roddy Piper, THEY LIVE

Posted by: Flying Tiger Comics at January 29, 2016 01:49 PM (ndLfM)

526 #201 my neighbors outgun me substantially. I can spend such snooty $$$ as I gots on me and the missus.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at January 29, 2016 01:57 PM (N3PrB)

527 My first comment here, though I've read Ace for a couple of years. Please allow me to shine a light on the glaringly obvious. The U.S. Treasury COLLECTS 3 plus Trillion a year - yet the country is beyond broke. I don't give a flying _uck if your gay, or smoke pot, I don't need some Elite telling me what I should or should not do. Where has that gotten us? But for the love of your God, someone please get the financial house in order. Also, stop the already illegal immigration. Who better than Trump? The fact he is blatantly anti-PC is just icing on the cake.

Posted by: Wingnut at January 29, 2016 01:57 PM (ug0XV)

528 Bowties are cool

Posted by: 11th Doctor at January 29, 2016 02:51 PM (yogeF)

529 oopsies... Seven campaign staff quitting Cruz. see conservativetreehouse .com

Posted by: Hot Gates at January 29, 2016 04:02 PM (KJZeR)

530 An incredible article! Thank you, Ace.

Posted by: goon at January 29, 2016 08:26 PM (gy5kE)

531 Tucker Carlson fits in well at Fox & Friends.

...and that is not a compliment.

Posted by: DRayRaven at January 30, 2016 02:00 AM (Qc2Pk)

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