August 30, 2013

Top Ten Interesting Things About Robin Thicke and His Song "Blurred Lines," With a Special Focus on the Various Sexual, Cultural, and Racial Controversies It Has Spawned
— Ace

Trust me, this is all more interesting than you're probably thinking right now.

Robin Thicke is the son of Alan Thicke, which makes him irredeemably Canadian. Despite this pathetic joke of a backstory, he currently has America's #1 single, and it is the longest-surviving #1 on the charts for two years. It's currently the number-two selling record of 2013, with five million copies sold, and will easily beat the number one selling record, which only has sold 5.7 million copies. As "Blurred Lines" is not yet even beginning its fall down the charts, it will definitely sell 6 million and probably 8.

In addition, it's the number one song in half the countries around the globe, and where it's not number one, it tends to be in the top 5.

Here now some interesting things about the song, which you can mention at dinner parties or with music-oriented youths who attempt to rob you at gunpoint.
#10. It has that property of a timeless classic, that, the moment you hear it, you think you've heard it before.

The old rule is that big hits sound like you've always known the song, whereas songs that will never chart require learning them and getting to know them.

Robin Thicke's immediately-catchy Blurred Lines sounds like a song you've known and loved your whole life.

There's a very good reason for that: It is a song you've known and loved your whole life. It's a straight-up rip-off Marvin Gaye's "Got to Give It Up."

But Robin Thicke has a good excuse for this: He never heard Marvin Gaye's "Got to Give It Up" before, so he can't have plagiarized it.

Oh wait, that's not his defense.

During an interview with GQ magazine in May about his career and the making of "Blurred Lines," Thicke said, "one of my favorite songs of all time was Marvin Gaye's 'Got to Give It Up.' I was like, 'Damn, we should make something like that, something with that groove.' "

Well I'm sure they worked really hard to make sure it wasn't just a clone of Got to Give It Up.

"Then he started playing a little something and we literally wrote the song in about a half hour and recorded it. The whole thing was done in a couple hours."

Yeah, you know why you were able to write that song in 30 minutes? That's right, because it was already written. You weren't creating it, you were remembering it.

And that kind of speeds the process of creation along!

Thicke is now suing Gaye's estate to have the song declared "starkly different" than Got to Give It Up. We'll talk about that later, because it's boring and you'll stop reading if I write about that.

So for now I'll just assure you that despite a Rich Kid White Man ripping off a Beloved Black Icon, yet again, both races are treating this controversy with all the delicacy we've come to expect.

#9. The Internet Has Exploded With Crazy Racial Hatred over the Thieving Allegation. Like I said: All the delicacy we've come to expect.

I IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZED THE SONG AS MARVIN’S BACKBEAT/ DRUMKIT/ MELODY……UM JUST SHOCKED THAT HE AINT GET THE SAMPLE CLEARANCE. WOW. I JUST HATE TO SEE ALL THE GREATS DIE BROKE AND ALL THE FAKES CASH IN. TRUE ARTISTS PLEASE DON’T FORGET TO HANDLE YOUR BIZ OR ELSE CRAKKKERS WILL GET YOU.

Some are taking a Wait and See Attitude, though:

LEAVE IT TO THE WHITE MAN ALWAYS STEALING SOMETHING FROM THE BLK PEOPLE. YOU ALL WANT TO DEFEND HIM BECAUSE HE'S WHITE BUT LET IT BE A BLACK MAN WHO STOLE A SONG YOU ALL BE HATING WITHOUT REASON. HE STOLE THE SONG A MUSICIAN CAN ARRANGE A SONG JUST BY ONE OR 5 BARS SO DON'T ACT STUPID. HE KNOWS AND THE FAMILY ISN'T BROKE NOT BY A LONG SHOT. SO TALK WHAT YOU ALL WHITE FOLK KNOW. AND THE FAMILY GOING TO WIN TRUST AND BELIEVE THAT. MARVIN GAY'S LABLE IS BEHIND THE FAMILY STUPIDS. NOW RESEARCH THAT.

And White People are of course lining up to swear that Blurred Lines sounds nothing like Got to Give It Up with all the passion and intensity of Robin Thicke's lawyers.

And also accusing all black people of being thieves themselves.

How about the "black man" start paying royalties to the white man that invented every single instrument, all the sound and recording equipment, ALL the video equipment and the legal system that allows all races to profit from copyright and distribution of music.

P.S. Stop stealing (downloading) music via the internet...you know you do!

By the way there was no long-stewing argument that built to that exchange. That just happened, straight out of the gate.

But let's all take a deep breath: While Robin Thicke may have ripped off a single Marvin Gaye song, it's not as if he dug up Marvin Gaye's corpse, raped it, videotaped himself raping Marvin Gaye's corpse, and then sold that rape-tape to the world and became a millionaire.

#8. Robin Thicke Dug Up Marivn Gaye's Corpse, Raped It, Videotaped Himself Raping Marvin Gaye's Corpse, And Then Sold That Rape-Tape to the World and Became a Millionaire.

This is where I start to see the Caps-Lock Black Panthers' point.

Because this is not the first time.

Compare Marvin Gaye's After the Dance...

with "Robin Thicke's" Love After War.

Pretty close. But at least it was just those two times.

#7. It Wasn't Just Those Two Times.

Okay, now compare Marvin Gaye's Trouble Man...

...with "Robin Thicke's" Million Dollar Baby.

Dude!!!

You. Must. Stop!!! Dude, you're like going wild on this poor man. You're making us look bad. They finally stopped complaining about Elvis (Caveat: They have not stopped complaining about Elvis) and now you're bringing that whole business into the light again.

Now, even though Robin Thicke is taking more of the black man's hard-earned money than a waffle and chicken franchise, at least we have a more clean-cut, socially-acceptable sort of style of R&B music, one that isn't drenched in pro-sex messaging.

#6. Robin Thicke's Actual Uncensored Video For the Song Contains More Hardcore Nudity Than Hustler's Beaver Hunt.

Okay. Yeah, I was talking about this video before, which is Glorious in its exploitation of the female body.

I have to warn you: This is NSFW. You may be thinking of "nudity" in videos as consisting of a barely-glimpsed edge of a nipple shot through a gauze lens and rendered in a high-contrast black-and-white.

Oh that's not how Robin Thicke does nudity. Oh no. Oh no no no no no. No, for Robin Thicke, nudity consists of perfect lighting and women with incredible breasts jiggling around for almost every second of the 4:00+ running time of the song.

That's how he rolls.

So here's your warning: This video is both Not Safe For Work and also a bit of a must.

That red/brunette, huh? Mesmerizing.

Okay, so sure, he did a very sexually-charged song with tons of nudity. And sure, this will have a coarsening effect on our society. Because, you see, YouTube initially banned the video but now has relented and now plays it.

That means that Robin Thicke bought himself an epic worldwide hit for the cost of paying two attractive women and one spellbinding one to run around with their t*ts out for half a day. What does that cost? I don't know, $10,000?

For $10,000 you can now buy yourself a hit that will make you $10 million. Think we'll see more of this now that the floodgates are not just opened but ripped off their hinges and swept ten miles down the river?

That said, while there's a lot of sexual charge in the song, at least it's not promoting a truly anti-social view of sexuality.

#5. The Song Has Been Plausibly Charged By Feminists As Glorifying Rape.

Usually Feminists make up things to bother themselves with, maybe to distract them from their simpering feminized boyfriends.

But not here. Although I don't think that this guy deliberately wrote a pro-date-rape song, there is definitely a case to be made that the way the words read -- and the way they'll be interpreted -- kind of makes date-rape seem like a part of the male-female dynamic.

Here's the case against the song: Every lyric in it is a hard-charging pick-up line for a girl. "You wanna hug me/Hm, what rhymes with 'hug me'?" He keeps noting she's a good girl, but he's gonna break that down.

He will have you tonight. That's not in question.

Later he offers her some "Jamaican" in order to make her more... well, I guess the term I'm looking for is "more rapable."

And then there's the title: Blurred Lines. Some take this to mean a blurry line between consent and non-consent.

Here's Cyndi Lauper saying the song "glorifies" date-rape:

In a recent interview, Cyndi explained that, in her opinion, the basic intent of the controversial performance was to glorify rape. “[Miley's] in a song that literally says that the blurred lines allowed you to – when a woman says no, she means yes – and that’s frightful because that’s date rape.”

Now, Thicke of course disputes this, and says "Blurred Lines" simply refers to the pick-up artist's goal of blurring the line between what a girl should do (not have sex with aggressive players like the one Thicke is depicting) and what she often ends up doing (which of course is having sex with him). And he thinks this is just a playful, maybe cynical, and kind of funny exaggeration of the male-female pick-up ritual.

Besides, he has a great defense against the charge of the song being "rapey."

The song isn't about rape at all, he says. That's silly.

It's about degrading women.

#4. By Thicke's Own Accounting, He Wanted the Video to be As Degrading to Women As Possible. From Wikipedia:

Asked about the racy content of the video, Thicke responded: "We tried to do everything that was taboo. Bestiality, drug injections, and everything that is completely derogatory towards women. Because all three of us are happily married with children, we were like, 'We're the perfect guys to make fun of this.' People say, 'Hey, do you think this is degrading to women?' I'm like, 'Of course it is. What a pleasure it is to degrade a woman. I've never gotten to do that before. I've always respected women.'"

Oh well, I guess he was trying to sort of be funny. And I guess he's right, if he (and Pharrel and TI, the cowriters/coperformers on the song) are all happily married, then there is a certain safety in having married men, faithful to their wives, have a bit of fun lampooning their younger, single days.

In fact that's a pretty cute marketing technique, isn't it? Women want the bad boy, so he's the bad boy in the video. But women also of course want the good boy, the one who's faithful to his wife and devoted to her. His "I'm happily married, but here's my depiction of what I would do if I were a Bad Boy" is the perfect commercial exploitation of this dual desire of women: Dangerous, yes, and sexual, but yet safe and loving.

And as Robin Thicke is married to the beautiful actress Paula Patton (last seen in Mission Impossible 4: Ghost Protocol), I guess his wife shouldn't be worried.

#3. His Wife Should Be Worried. Yes yes yes, it's the triple flip. He pretends to be a Bad Boy Player, but in reality he's a happily married faithful husband.

But actually, behind the faithful happily-married husband act, he's really a Bad Boy Player.

robinthickehasabigmirror.jpg
I heard he had his hand on a blonde,
but then I looked in the mirror and saw
he had his hand in a blonde

This picture was taken after the VMAs, and probably would have been more infamous, had Miley Cyrus not dived on the Controversy Grenade.

Ah well. He's a funny guy. I'm sure deep-down he's reasonably normal.

#2. His Video Moves from Shamelessly Self-Promoting, to Nearly Obscenely Self-Promoting, to Actually Obscenely Self-Promoting, to Hilariously Self-Promoting, to, In the End, Almost Miraculously, Heroically Self-Promoting.

What to say about this one? Oh, we can start with all the pretty photography of him.

But you can't ignore the huge

# T H I C K E

promotion that dominates the screen once every, oh, three seconds or so.

And even worse is the self-promotion -- not of his music, but of sleeping with him -- that occurs at the end of the Uncensored Version of the song.

You saw it, right? Did your jaw drop open as mine did? Did your attitude about his self-promotion move from "baffled annoyance" to "stunned respect"?

If you don't know what I mean, it's near the end of the Uncensored Video, about 90% of the way through. It's on the wall. A gigantic message about Robin Thicke for the home viewer.

If you don't want to watch the video, I'll write it in WHITE FONT below -- I don't want to spoil it for you, unless you want it to be spoiled. Highlight the text below to read Robin Thicke's not-so-secret message to you.

In huge letters on the wall is the message:

ROBIN
THICKE
HAS A
BIG DICK

It's not even just flashed, subliminally. It's on the screen for like three seconds solid.

He's just putting that out there. He just wants you to have all the information.

Do with this information what you will.

But nothing bad can happen from a little egregious self-promotion.

#1. Robin Thicke Will Probably Get Away With Stealing Marvin Gaye's Songs and Then We'll Have Widespread Race Riots.

Because Robin Thicke's Blurred Lines is so "starkly different" from Marvin Gaye's Got to Give It Up, Thicke offered Gaye's estate a six-figure payoff to stop saying crazy things like Thicke should pay the Gaye estate money for the song. The family refused. We now proceed to further negotiations and maybe court.

However, Thicke is probably in the right... per the law, because the law is crude thing. Even though Thicke admits to ripping the song off -- ripping off the basic idea, the party atmosphere of the background vocals, the basic lyrical plot ("got to give it up" pretty much means "you know you want it"), the bass, the drums, the... everything, he did not apparently lift the only thing that infringement law cares about: The melody.

We asked Ron Sadoff, a professor at New York University's Steinhardt School and director of programs in scoring for film and multimedia and songwriting at Steinhardt's Department of Music and Performing Arts Professions, for his opinion.

"Thicke's 'Blurred Lines' may have been inspired by Marvin Gaye's 'Got to Give It Up,' but the songs' respective 'touch and feel,' as well as their use of structural musical materials, are common to many popular songs," Sadoff said. "From a musicological perspective, the songs share even less similarities in terms of their use of structural materials such as melody and harmony. 'Blurred Lines' is composed squarely within the major mode, while 'Got to Give It Up' revolves around the blues scale. In this key area of melodic content, there doesn't appear to be evidence that would suggest plagiarism on the part of Robin Thicke."

This rule cuts both ways: Even though Thicke ripped off the the magical thing about "Got to Give It Up," he did not rip off the legally protected thing.

The reverse of this is that you can be forced to pay lots of money if your melody is similar, even if your song is nothing like the song you supposedly infringed. George Harrison's My Sweet Lord sounds nothing, nothing like the Chiffons' He's So Fine, but Harrison had to pay a lot of money for "infringing" that song. (The court found he was guilty of "unconscious plagiarism," too. Harrison was quite upset to be accused of any plagiarism, whether conscious or unconscious.)

And to this day I do not understand how the hell Ray Parker, Jr'.s Ghostbusters theme is in any way really an infringement of the much-different I Want a New Drug by Huey Lewis and the News. (Yeah, I guess it's that basic synthesizer riff-- which is not really the most important part of either song.)

So, Robin Thicke changed just enough for legal purposes and probably cannot be sued by the Gaye estate.

But we all know what he did, and did before that, and did before that too.

And so, you know: The world will burn.

All for Blurred Lines.

Although, I have to say, the song has really grown on me. And I was huge fan of "Got to Give It Up," too. That's like in my all-time top twenty.

But that brunette.

That brunette.


Posted by: Ace at 02:00 PM | Comments (1011)
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1 Robin Thicke & Milky Virus. Blech!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 30, 2013 02:01 PM (xZxMD)

2 I thought we were going to dedicate the ONT to Blurred Lines.  Just as well...



Posted by: EC at August 30, 2013 02:03 PM (doBIb)

3 Is ace in his manic phase? His writing is just clicking and his output seems enormous.

Posted by: Eton Cox at August 30, 2013 02:05 PM (q177U)

4 "From a musicological perspective, the songs share even less similarities in terms of their use of structural materials such as melody and harmony. 'Blurred Lines' is composed squarely within the major mode, while 'Got to Give It Up' revolves around the blues scale. So if you put Jailhouse Rock to different music to different music, it'd be cool?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 30, 2013 02:06 PM (xZxMD)

5 I will contribute the following: In August 1988, Wayne Gretzky was handed the phone and told by the LA Kings owner, Bruce McNall, that he had been traded to the LA Kings. The kid he was babysitting and handed the phone to him? Robin Thicke.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 02:06 PM (dw9bg)

6 Hmm. Watching an old episode of Dragnet. An undercover narcotics officer (played by one of the Adam-12 guys) is accused of being involved in a robbery. He's explaining to Friday about what he's been up to.

Among other things, says he met T-Bone in a bar.

That T-Bone fellow, he gets around.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 30, 2013 02:07 PM (U82Km)

7 I can't tell when you are being sarcastic or serious. Thickes wife is black. Doesn't he get a street pass?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at August 30, 2013 02:08 PM (f4Je0)

8 Love the song, never heard the original. Perhaps I'm a racist. That brunette is just the sweetest thing.

Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2013 02:08 PM (FcR7P)

9 Meh.

Posted by: NCKate at August 30, 2013 02:09 PM (KKfVH)

10 Oh, and Bomb Syria For A Better Tomorrow.

Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2013 02:09 PM (FcR7P)

11 The biggest joke is black people complaining that a white person sampled from Marvin Gaye... as opposed to the entire hip-hop careers of Jay-Z and his ilk who stole complete sections of The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin and countless others and basically talked over it.

Posted by: Synnerman at August 30, 2013 02:09 PM (0Bdlg)

12 To me, Robin Thicke looks like a young George Michael.   Anyone else?

Posted by: EC at August 30, 2013 02:09 PM (doBIb)

13 Watching an old episode of Dragnet. An undercover narcotics officer (played by one of the Adam-12 guys) is accused of being involved in a robbery. He's explaining to Friday about what he's been up to. Among other things, says he met T-Bone in a bar. That T-Bone fellow, he gets around. T-Bone has got to be getting pretty long in the tooth...

Posted by: rickb223 at August 30, 2013 02:09 PM (xZxMD)

14 Who?

Posted by: Joethefatman (@joethefatman1) at August 30, 2013 02:10 PM (MnSla)

15 Breaking Bad: The Middle School Musical http://goo.gl/8IIh8i Love the Hector Salamanca character.

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 30, 2013 02:10 PM (NHMrq)

16 lol.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 30, 2013 02:10 PM (8JJ6O)

17 Returns fire with some Kpop.  Apink to Mr. Thicke "No no no"
http://youtu.be/n3XJQtJWKJM

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 30, 2013 02:11 PM (zogjM)

18 Last week I heard the 60s on 6 (satellite radio*) play several lines from Marvin Gaye's song and Blurred Lines. They sounded remarkably alike. *I listed to 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s songs during long road trips, and now I have the Sirius/XM channels on my radio. So shoot me.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 02:11 PM (dw9bg)

19 Slightly O/T, but fucking epic. The following issue came up today while discussing a Syria with a dis-illusion Obama voter:

"I thought Obama was smart, and effective. I wanted to believe him. He just SPOKE to me."

I responded thusly, and simply had to share.

That's the problem. We got all emotional and actively IGNORED evidence to the contrary. So, America - you brought this on yourself. We deserve every bit of scorn, every scrap of derision and all the mockery the world has to offer. The problem isn't Obama, it's a people willing to elect him based on NOTHING but words. Empty promises, vague proclamations and the fucking unbridled arrogance to actually say out loud: "History will record this as the moment when the oceans began to recede and the planet began to heal," and FUCKING MEAN IT!!

His record was out there. As a community organizer in Chicago, he spent a fuckton of money on the schools, and not only did things fail to improve, but they got worse. He's never successfully run, operated, worked for, dabbled in or tried anything in his life except being elected to the next higher office because he READS well. That's it. That's his great cosmic power. And the incredible hubris he's brought with him is getting people KILLED because he has destabilized an already rocky world.

His answer to everything from healthcare to gun control to Syria has been 'because I want it.' That's not what a smart person says, it's what a fucking toddler says. But he's been coddled and told how special he is his entire life, and now, in the big-boy chair, he can't hack it. He's never faced adversity on any real level and now here it is, punching him in the dick and he just stands there and pouts. People are DYING because he can't make a decision. He can't make a decision because he can't fucking FATHOM that someone wouldn't do what he wants. That's not intelligence. He's not smart. He's arrogant, self-centered, self-righteous and thin-skinned. He is ignorant of the world and truly believes, as an article of faith, that there is conflict in the world because America is bad. Period.

I do not want that man leading this nation. Have we 'made poor decisions' Yup. Could we have done more/less in certain situations? Sure. Is America the single greatest force for good in the history of the planet? Abso-fucking-lutely. Our president does not believe that.

WE are the problem. We were so concerned with being labeled as racist or bigoted that we allowed a man with no record of any success in any endeavor of any kind to TALK HIS WAY into the White House. We believed a man who had never achieved anything of note would suddenly - through the force of his speeches - transform the world.

When you say it like that, it sounds ridiculous, but look back. Look at 2008 and tell me it was anything more than hormonal teenaged girls screaming over a boy-band rock star.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at August 30, 2013 02:11 PM (DZqR0)

20

He's a spaz.

That said, as I've said in a thread previously, if inserting yourself into blackness makes you racist, well then damn.

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 02:11 PM (fRlGp)

21 I pretty much just listen to 1st Wave and Willy's Roadhouse on Sirius so this all means less than nothing to me as far as knowing who the hell Robin Thicke is. That said, I did indeed find it to be interesting, so kudos ace.

Posted by: Lauren at August 30, 2013 02:11 PM (ELdpj)

22 As a committed White Person, I totally support Robin Thicke in this unfortunate matter.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 30, 2013 02:12 PM (8ZskC)

23 You can't even copy/paste from one Ace post to another...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at August 30, 2013 02:12 PM (DZqR0)

24 Returns fire with some Kpop. K-Tel.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 30, 2013 02:12 PM (xZxMD)

25 The biggest joke is black people complaining that a white person sampled from Marvin Gaye... as opposed to the entire hip-hop careers of Jay-Z and his ilk who stole complete sections of The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin and countless others and basically talked over it.

Yeah, but it's OK when black people appropriate white people's work. Something about "privilege."

Posted by: HeatherRadish at August 30, 2013 02:13 PM (hO8IJ)

26 Damn...WN!!!   Who did you give both barrels to?

Posted by: EC at August 30, 2013 02:13 PM (doBIb)

27 I'm telling you, It's the pointy elbows of cyrus. If they were normal there would not be any controversy at all. They are wicked sharp, and disgusting. And it just drives people to have all kinds of views without knowing they have a bias

Posted by: weekend drunk at August 30, 2013 02:13 PM (V+Pei)

28 You can't even copy/paste from one Ace post to another... Posted by: Washington Nearsider at August 30, 2013 07:12 PM (DZqR0) It looked fine for me. *Waits for MWR to jump WN because he deserves it*

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 02:14 PM (dw9bg)

29 THICKE and GAYE???? Help me, I feel woozy...!

Posted by: Andi Sullivan at August 30, 2013 02:14 PM (xgsCw)

30 Hold it, that doesn't sound anything like Marvin Gaye's song. Might as well have all the hip-hop artists sue Barack Obama for talking.

Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2013 02:14 PM (FcR7P)

31 80's on 8, 1st wave and Ozzy's Boneyard here.

Posted by: Joethefatman (@joethefatman1) at August 30, 2013 02:14 PM (MnSla)

32 OT, because I do not give a Rats Ass...The Blonde Foxxy News reporter , pointing out to the lame that John Kerry sounded Presidential today during his Press Conference.
Here we go again?

Posted by: Hell Stones at August 30, 2013 02:15 PM (TnfEt)

33 i don't like alan thicke he always gave me the creeps

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 30, 2013 02:15 PM (8JJ6O)

34 CAC,

This is your chance to pick an old song performed by a black person, add some auto-tune to it, cut a single, record a video with two brunettes, and claim your millions and fame.

Posted by: EC at August 30, 2013 02:15 PM (doBIb)

35 Damn...WN!!! Who did you give both barrels to?

Posted by: EC at August 30, 2013 07:13 PM (doBIb)

A 37 year-old woman who should have fucking known better than to engage me on politics.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at August 30, 2013 02:15 PM (DZqR0)

36

11The biggest joke is black people complaining that a white person sampled from Marvin Gaye... as opposed to the entire hip-hop careers of Jay-Z and his ilk who stole complete sections of The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin and countless others and basically talked over it.

------------

 

I remember an SNL episode with Dennis Miller doing the Weekend Update skit, wise-cracking about how Vanilla Ice's signature song was suspiciously similar to the Stones(?) song that Weekend Update was using for its theme.

 

Vanilla Ice was, of course, the musical guest for that episode, and had just finished his performance.

 

Posted by: junior at August 30, 2013 02:15 PM (UWFpX)

37 I read the whole movie review and while ace had many good points, the thing that stuck with me is I'm old.

Posted by: fluffy at August 30, 2013 02:15 PM (7y1wy)

38 please do we have to ourselves degenerate into black/white tribalism?

He ripped off the song.  Legally, probably.  But he ripped it off.  He admits it.

Please let's not do what the Dummies do and begin having pitched Racial Battles over One Millionaire and Another Millionaire because one is white and one is black and we cannot possibly let this affront to our tribe stand.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 02:15 PM (/IWYB)

39 *I listed to 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s songs during long road trips, and now I have the Sirius/XM channels on my radio. So shoot me.

I don't like the 70s much, but the only stuff recorded in the 21st century worth listening to seems to be 1) classical and 2) new work by people who have been recording for thirty years (and that's hit or miss).

Posted by: HeatherRadish at August 30, 2013 02:16 PM (hO8IJ)

40 Blurred lines doesn't sound like Got To Give It Up to me. I think this is the phenom that ace has discussed before. You tell someone what you want them to hear and that's what they will hear.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at August 30, 2013 02:16 PM (cDwCa)

41 29 THICKE and GAYE???? Help me, I feel woozy...! Posted by: Andi Sullivan at August 30, 2013 07:14 PM (xgsCw) i think this is a contender for thread winner

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 30, 2013 02:16 PM (8JJ6O)

42 20 years from now, when the dead irradiated cities only echo with the skittering of giant radroaches and the moaning of the wind, will anyone remember this?


Posted by: The Lone Wanderer at August 30, 2013 02:16 PM (5J56L)

43 Let's not bicker and argue over who killed who.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 30, 2013 02:17 PM (8ZskC)

44 yeah, I see a near-naked brunette and some other action in the background


some fa**ot is singing, but did I mention the brunette? 

Posted by: Keyser Soze at August 30, 2013 02:17 PM (omBWL)

45 I just read the whole post, and I have no idea what any of that was/is about. I will now repair to watch the vid.

Posted by: RS at August 30, 2013 02:17 PM (YAGV/)

46 Please let's not do what the Dummies do and begin having pitched Racial Battles over One Millionaire and Another Millionaire because one is white and one is black and we cannot possibly let this affront to our tribe stand.




We're mocking him, ace.  No one's starting any racial stuff here.

Posted by: EC at August 30, 2013 02:17 PM (doBIb)

47

"as opposed to the entire hip-hop careers of Jay-Z and his ilk who stole complete sections of The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin and countless others and basically talked over it."

 

Jay-Z and his ilk had to pay licensing fees for those samples.  There is still a lot of unauthorized sampling going on in underground rap and electronic dance music circles, but if you're on a major label, you gotta clear your samples.

Posted by: Alex at August 30, 2013 02:17 PM (/yzYn)

48 This is just the universe's way of telling you that if you were honest, decent, and not an asshole, YOU FUCKED UP!!!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 30, 2013 02:17 PM (NLqIR)

49 But doesn't the ABC song sound exactly like "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star"?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 30, 2013 02:18 PM (s8ecc)

50 13 T-Bone has got to be getting pretty long in the tooth...

No kidding. This episode's so old, it calls itself Badge 714.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 30, 2013 02:18 PM (U82Km)

51 some fa**ot is singing, but did I mention the brunette? Posted by: Keyser Soze at August 30, 2013 07:17 PM (omBWL) I'm a brunette, but can't compare. Sigh. At least I'm an 'ette.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 02:18 PM (dw9bg)

52 Well played on the K-Tel... 

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 30, 2013 02:19 PM (zogjM)

53 barney ripped off yankee doodle dandy

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 30, 2013 02:19 PM (8JJ6O)

54 and a cute sign -- 'Thicke IS a big dick'.  Heh


did I mention the brunette?  What's is like to have perfect ta-tas and a perfect tush...........................he wondered

Posted by: Keyser Soze at August 30, 2013 02:19 PM (omBWL)

55 You do have an amazing way with words. Video killed real music. Get off my lawn.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2013 02:19 PM (g1DWB)

56 Ace, this topic simply wasnt worth your time.

Posted by: Granny Liberty at August 30, 2013 02:19 PM (lHJyk)

57 HeatherR! How did your charity beer walk/run/whatever (you got beer) go?

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 02:19 PM (dw9bg)

58 Emily Ratajkowski

Posted by: DANEgerus at August 30, 2013 02:19 PM (e3/KR)

59 John Fogerty once got sued for plagiarizing... himself.

He took the stand with a guitar in hand and gave the jury a quick music lesson. Case dismissed.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 02:20 PM (8sCoq)

60 Couldn't we have just gotten a nice boobeh post for a friday before war? Who care's about this geigh crap anyway?

Posted by: weekend drunk at August 30, 2013 02:20 PM (V+Pei)

61 Jay-Z and his ilk had to pay licensing fees for those samples.

Sure.  And not a damn one of them is capable of sitting down at a keyboard and writing their own hook--they have to use one someone else wrote 40 years ago and stir it around with some software.

(I can't write a hook, either, but I'm not claiming I'm a "musical artist".)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at August 30, 2013 02:20 PM (hO8IJ)

62 My years of directorial experience tells me that the video needs about ten more topless women.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 30, 2013 02:20 PM (8ZskC)

63 Listen to Billy Ocean's "Caribbean Queen" and tell me it's not a rip-off of "Billie Jean."  Same with Stevie Wonder's "Part-Time Lover," a rip-off of Hall and Oates' "Maneater."

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 02:21 PM (bufJH)

64 12,000 words?

Why not, "That brunette. That brunette."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 30, 2013 02:21 PM (gqgiP)

65 According to that picture he also ripped off Stan Marsh's "Fingerbang"

Posted by: BuckIV at August 30, 2013 02:21 PM (gedHR)

66

From the excepts:  "I JUST HATE TO SEE ALL THE GREATS DIE BROKE"

 

No, unfortunately Marvin died rich, incoherent and shot by his father on the front lawn.  I love his music and a major reason I bought a wah pedal for the guitar was to play the open notes of "Let's Get It On".  Best makeout song ever.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at August 30, 2013 02:21 PM (PpviT)

67 The spawn of various sexual, cultural, legal, and racial controversies is a one way ticket to the DEATH STAR!

Posted by: angel with a sword at August 30, 2013 02:21 PM (hpgw1)

68 CAC,

This is your chance to pick an old song performed by a black person, add some auto-tune to it, cut a single, record a video with two brunettes, and claim your millions and fame.

Posted by: EC at August 30, 2013 07:15 PM (doBIb)

Already started. But it's tough to improve on Ice Cube's Good Day.

 

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 02:22 PM (fRlGp)

69 Also interesting: His wife and high school sweetheart didn't take him to the prom, because he is white.

http://thegrio.com/2013/08/06/
robin-thicke-said-wife-
paula-patton-didnt-
take-him-to-prom-
because-he-was-white/

(Sorry, tinyurl.com doesn't seem to be working right now)

And they're my age! (almost) And they went to high school in America!

Posted by: Oschisms at August 30, 2013 02:22 PM (pfVS8)

70 HeatherR! How did your charity beer walk/run/whatever (you got beer) go?

It was awesome.  I raised very nearly a thousand dollars, and somewhere I have a nice picture of me on the Jumbotron at Miller Park taking a picture of me on the Jumbotron at Miller Park.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at August 30, 2013 02:22 PM (hO8IJ)

71 Pop punk rock songs all have a similar sound. That's how you know it's pop punk rock. Just because Thicke is influenced by a specific genre doesn't mean he rip off an artist of that same genre.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at August 30, 2013 02:22 PM (cDwCa)

72 Great post, long and rich.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 30, 2013 02:22 PM (v1mq9)

73 It took you until post numbah 38 to start calling people 'tribal'.  Congrats...

Posted by: Keyser Soze at August 30, 2013 02:22 PM (omBWL)

74 no offense, but you fucking cranky oldsters are pissing me off.

This is a very funny and well-crafted post and all the fucking Elderly Rejectivsts can say is "I don't like music."

I don't give a fuck.  You can say that in ten thousand opportunities in your lives.

Don't fucking trample my good work just to pipe up, for the ten millionth time, that you have separated yourselves from current culture.

We know  You said so before.  Quite stridently.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 02:23 PM (/IWYB)

75 Those Procol Harum bastards...

Posted by: Johann Sebastian Bach at August 30, 2013 02:23 PM (xgsCw)

76 Remember Sexual Healing?

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 30, 2013 02:23 PM (NHMrq)

77 27 I'm telling you, It's the pointy elbows of cyrus. If they were normal there would not be any controversy at all. They are wicked sharp, and disgusting. And it just drives people to have all kinds of views without knowing they have a bias Posted by: weekend drunk at August 30, 2013 07:13 PM (V+Pei) HA. I also assumed it was because of their age differences; she still looks like a kid, so it has a pedo feel missing from the original song. Had he grinded at the VMAs with Beyonce or Gaga or Rihanna or Britney, would have been slightly less gross. My sis commented that the song has a "rapey" feel to it, which agrees with Ace's #5, but I think Timberlake's "Take Back the Night" steals that particular trophy for the summer, hahaha.

Posted by: LizLem, who owns a lawn and is not afraid to tell twentysomething hipsters to get off it at August 30, 2013 02:23 PM (8wqqE)

78 "This post was not directed at my demographic" is a sentiment that can be safely said in one's head (or said aloud) and not committed to the comments for the 68,000th time.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 02:24 PM (/IWYB)

79 To bad Robert Palmer passed away some years ago- he could have remade the "Irresistible" video in the I-guess-we're-doing-this-now topless style

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 02:24 PM (8sCoq)

80 Dr. Dre and his fellow rappers have been ripping off whitey for years but when whitey rip off one black guy, it's oh no!!!!1!!!

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 30, 2013 02:24 PM (NHMrq)

81 And they went to high school in America!

Posted by: Oschisms at August 30, 2013 07:22 PM (pfVS

Hot Black Chick - Nerdy White Guy unions will destroy us all.

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 02:25 PM (fRlGp)

82 Kenny chesneys been ripping off Jimmy buffets schtick for ages....

Posted by: Dathi at August 30, 2013 02:25 PM (6sEwQ)

83 i'm so wrapped up in this season of big brother.....come on live feeds get back on!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 30, 2013 02:25 PM (8JJ6O)

84 Eh, I'm younger than Robin Thicke. I just really like Waylon Jennings and O.M.D.

Posted by: Lauren at August 30, 2013 02:26 PM (ELdpj)

85 76 Remember Sexual Healing?

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 30, 2013 07:23 PM (NHMrq)


--Impossible for me to hear the opening of "Sexual Healing" without imagining the classic Beavis and Butt-Head scene of them watching "Boombastic" by Shaggy.

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 02:26 PM (bufJH)

86 Everything is a ripoff of Hank Williams

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 02:26 PM (8sCoq)

87 Get up, get up, get up, get up! Wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up! Oh, baby now let's get down tonight Ooh baby, I'm hot just like an oven I need some lovin' And baby, I can't hold it much longer It's getting stronger and stronger And when I get that feeling I want sexual healing Sexual healing, oh baby Makes me feel so fine [Anybody else try yelling at your penis? Does it work?]

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 30, 2013 02:26 PM (NHMrq)

88

Not our fault that you aging, wheezing geezers won't let those of us under 45 have some fun before you eat us alive with your pensions and entitlements.

 

I think we're owed a few Thickes, Wests, and Fiascos.

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 02:26 PM (fRlGp)

89 We know You said so before. Quite stridently.


Posted by:ace at August 30, 2013 07:23 PM (/IWYB)



Alternate title:  "Forty-ish hipster posts lengthy article about pop sh*t"

Posted by: Keyser Soze at August 30, 2013 02:26 PM (omBWL)

90 I'm still waiting for the next Milli Vanilli album.  Or Gino Vanilli.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 30, 2013 02:26 PM (8ZskC)

91 Please let's not do what the Dummies do and begin having pitched Racial Battles over One Millionaire and Another Millionaire because one is white and one is black and we cannot possibly let this affront to our tribe stand. I can honestly say I feel no need to defend Robin Thicke because he's a fellow blue-eyed devil. And blaming me for some mutual culpability is just so ludicrous it makes me laugh.

Posted by: zsasz at August 30, 2013 02:27 PM (xgsCw)

92 HA. I also assumed it was because of their age differences; she still looks like a kid, so it has a pedo feel missing from the original song. Had he grinded at the VMAs with Beyonce or Gaga or Rihanna or Britney, would have been slightly less gross.

My sis commented that the song has a "rapey" feel to it, which agrees with Ace's #5, but I think Timberlake's "Take Back the Night" steals that particular trophy for the summer, hahaha.

Posted by: LizLem, who owns a lawn and is not afraid to tell twentysomething hipsters to get off it at August 30, 2013 07:23 PM (8wqqE)


--I think Rihanna's only a couple years older than Virus; it just seems like she's been around forever.

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 02:27 PM (bufJH)

93

The Thicke tune resembles Got to Give It Up in the same way that Heart's "Barracuda" resembled Led Zeppelin's "Achilles' Last Stand," or Billy Squier's "Lonely Is the Night" resembled "Nobody's Fault But Mine."   They copped the *feel* of the older songs, but changed the melody and chord progressions so that they were original enough to not get in trouble.

 

("Your honor, all I did was cop a feel!!")

 

As far as the law is concerned, the melody and the harmony are what makes the song.  It's a narrow definition, but otherwise where do you draw the line?  At a drum rhythm pattern?  If so, Bernard "Pretty" Purdie would have theoretically been able to sue Toto's Jeff Porcaro for copping his "Purdie Shuffle" beat (as heard in several songs Purdie did session work on, such as Steely Dan's "Babylon Sisters" or "Home At Last") in "Rosanna."  But no, Purdie doesn't even have a songwriting credit on those songs, they're Fagen / Becker.  And Porcaro doesn't have a writing credit on "Rosanna," either.  And that's probably as it should be, because you could arrange any of those songs with different drumbeats (or no drums at all) and they'd still be the same song. 

Posted by: Alex at August 30, 2013 02:28 PM (/yzYn)

94 Vendette, I set up an account, can you direct me as to find the Ravelry group? And Ace, I think you were, um, busy earlier; here's a link I put up for you. . . http://thechive.com/2013/08 /01/you-probably-guessed-this- was-coming-emily-ratajkowski- 25-photos/

Posted by: LizLem, who owns a lawn and is not afraid to tell twentysomething hipsters to get off it at August 30, 2013 02:28 PM (8wqqE)

95 "20 years from now, when the dead irradiated cities only echo with the skittering of giant radroaches and the moaning of the wind, will anyone remember this?"

Yes, they will.


Mostly because the sheer mass of this post  will protect it from the heat, blast, and radiation   put out by anything  short of  Tsar Bomba.


Posted by: Jaws at August 30, 2013 02:28 PM (Rbtz3)

96 Is Thicke talented? Cuz I don't see it, unless you consider stealing a talent.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 30, 2013 02:28 PM (v1mq9)

97 That's bs, of course: We can be completely degrading towards women because we're happily married. Total bs. You can be complexly degrading towards women and break ever taboo because you can it it sells big time you plagiarizing that creep.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 30, 2013 02:28 PM (iHoZl)

98 apparently "We have to win the culture" means "We have to keep saying 'I don't like things which are New'" seventeen bazillion times a month.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 02:28 PM (/IWYB)

99 My grandaughter wants a cyrus cd for her birthday. She is turning 9. Breaks my heart to not get her what she wants, but come on, I would be a child abuser if I did

Posted by: weekend drunk at August 30, 2013 02:29 PM (V+Pei)

100

Top hits of the 70s: drugs and fucking

Top hits of the 80s: drugs and fucking

Top hits of the 90s: everything sucks, besides drugs and fucking

Top hits of the 00s: everything sucks, except for shiny shiny, drugs and fucking.

Top hits of the 10s: everything sucks, except for shiny shiny, drugs, and fucking, with a remix.

 

Anyone under 65 "outraged" over the new sound can kiss my 28-year-old ass.

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 02:29 PM (fRlGp)

101 I tried to watch the video and even with the nudity only made it about 45 seconds into the song.

Posted by: Adam at August 30, 2013 02:29 PM (Aif/5)

102 sorry I attempted something different.

Let me put up another post I lifted from Hot Air calling Obama an asshole.  THose always get good feedback.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 02:29 PM (/IWYB)

103 liz the link didn't work for me is this what it was supposed to be? http://tinyurl.com/nzaxzkf

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 30, 2013 02:30 PM (8JJ6O)

104 I hate that song with the burning hatred of 1000 suns. I don't even listen to the radio, and yet I hear it all the damn time. Ugh.

Posted by: brak at August 30, 2013 02:30 PM (RBQss)

105 Duck Dynasty is new ace.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at August 30, 2013 02:30 PM (xhupI)

106 SoHo sampled the opening to the Smiths' "How Soon Is Now?" which was itself a riff on Keith Richards doing Bo Diddley.

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 02:30 PM (bufJH)

107

74 no offense, but you fucking cranky oldsters are pissing me off.

 


*****


Heh- watched an old British detective show last night, a youngish detective referred to the cast of old potential suspects in a murder case as "Wrinklies".  


 

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 30, 2013 02:30 PM (mvenn)

108 I despise pop music.I do ,however,love tittehs.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 02:30 PM (dBYCN)

109 Ace wins the Internets today.  Blistering takedown of tinythicke with plenty of awesome sauce.  I listened to every one of those songs, the rip-off is unmistakeable. 

Posted by: John the Libertarian at August 30, 2013 02:31 PM (/rhjC)

110 "This post was not directed at my demographic" is a sentiment that can be safely said in one's head (or said aloud) and not committed to the comments for the 68,000th time. Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 07:24 PM (/IWYB) Ace, respectfully, if I do the math right I'm nearly his age. He needs to grow up, regardless of what his wife says.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 02:31 PM (dw9bg)

111 It's not a rip off of Marvin Gaye... it's just a composite song.

Posted by: Robin Thicke Booker at August 30, 2013 02:31 PM (nm+kb)

112 >Anyone under 65 "outraged" over the new sound can kiss my 28-year-old ass.

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 07:29 PM (fRlGp)



Compelling, and rich. Well done.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 02:31 PM (8sCoq)

113 Wow.  Pre WW111 post by Ace is about some brain fart singer. So lame, But I know you must sell copy. 

Posted by: redenzo at August 30, 2013 02:31 PM (vx61Q)

114 Anyone here interested in learning the benefits of a reverse mortgage?

Posted by: Fred Thompson at August 30, 2013 02:31 PM (8ZskC)

115 >>To bad Robert Palmer passed away some years ago- he could have remade the "Irresistible" video in the I-guess-we're-doing-this-now topless style His cover of Sneakin Sally Through the Alley was one of the best things he ever did. His stuff oozed sex even without video.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2013 02:31 PM (g1DWB)

116 and all the fucking Elderly Rejectivsts can say is "I don't like music."

I love music.  I'm listening to music now.

Try to keep an open mind.
http://youtu.be/InxT4S6wQf4?t=6m55s

Posted by: HeatherRadish at August 30, 2013 02:32 PM (hO8IJ)

117 >>>Alternate title: "Forty-ish hipster posts lengthy article about pop sh*t"

bitter resentment is such a charming attribute.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 02:32 PM (/IWYB)

118 I'm not outraged.Always hated pop music.Throughout my whole life.Always thought it sucked.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 02:32 PM (dBYCN)

119 Posted by: CAC

We'll always have Pennsylvania.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 30, 2013 02:32 PM (v1mq9)

120 >Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 07:29 PM (/IWYB)


do what you want, man

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 02:33 PM (8sCoq)

121 >>>Wow. Pre WW111 post by Ace is about some brain fart singer. So lame, But I know you must sell copy.

rahr... survival seeds... glenn beck... rarrrh... mark levin.. rarrh

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 02:33 PM (/IWYB)

122 >>> 74no offense, but you fucking cranky oldsters are pissing me off. >>> This is a very funny and well-crafted post and all the fucking Elderly Rejectivsts can say is "I don't like music." That's life as a cranky oldster. We get a bit set in our ways (and a bit stale) and keeping up with trends becomes a lower priority. Just wait until you turn 30, Young Man.

Posted by: fluffy at August 30, 2013 02:33 PM (7y1wy)

123 Thicke has always given me a Chester vibe, as in Chester the Molester. That cheesy mustache helped the notion.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 30, 2013 02:33 PM (Tnlh/)

124 >Anyone under 65 "outraged" over the new sound can kiss my 28-year-old ass. Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 07:29 PM (fRlGp) Here's my lawn. Get off of it. Although your wife is a lovely person and you should worship the ground she walks on.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 02:33 PM (dw9bg)

125 In Peruvia ripping off the music of black people is considered the highest compliment.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 30, 2013 02:33 PM (8ZskC)

126 But it's all okay because it was done as a tribute to Marvin Gaye and not as a means to ride to fortune on the talents of greater people.

He didn't pull the ladder up like a turncoat mofo, you see.

Posted by: Mikey NTH Spittle-Flecked Diatribes Now 25% Off! at August 30, 2013 02:34 PM (gmoEG)

127 I couldn't bring myself to listen to much of that "song."  I had to turn it off and watch the video.  Thicke wasn't kidding, that thing sounds like they recorded it in about half an hour.

I am thinking of going back to college so I can learn enough new adjectives to describe just how awful it is.  If this is the number one song in the US then that goes a long ways towards explaining an electorate that would pick Obama.  It's cretins all the way down Cap'n.

BTW, did anyone else notice that the hot chick has a foam finger in the video about 1:30 into it?  Yeah, it is the same one Miley used on stage.  So Ace needs to add a buck fifty when totaling up the money it took to squeeze this abomination out.  It is a novelty song like Weird Al used to make.  They just put tits on it and pretended to be serious.

I weep for humanity.

Posted by: Thatch at August 30, 2013 02:34 PM (qYvEa)

128 robin thicke is a weasel

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 30, 2013 02:34 PM (8JJ6O)

129 I"m taking the post down.  I'll put it up at Breitbart.


I'll put up the Only Kind of Post some of you can enjoy.  "Obama sucks," yayyyy.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 02:34 PM (/IWYB)

130 Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 07:29 PM (/IWYB) You complete us, Ace. I'm always good for bashing the flaccid culture.

Posted by: zsasz at August 30, 2013 02:34 PM (xgsCw)

131

It IS a travesty that this song gets all the attention and MGMT's Your Life is A Lie gets almost none unless you're too stoned to share it.

 

Which...is probably the reason why word doesn't get around.

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 02:35 PM (fRlGp)

132 "Let's win the culture!"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 02:35 PM (/IWYB)

133

Nice work, Ace.

Bit wordy for me.  But the parts I did read skim  were good.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 02:35 PM (XntP1)

134

128 "robin thicke is a weasel"

 

Yeah, but I'm still THE weasel.

Posted by: Pauly Shore at August 30, 2013 02:36 PM (/yzYn)

135 Let's go to the Video  Tape!

Posted by: Zombie Geroge Michael's Sports Machine at August 30, 2013 02:36 PM (XntP1)

136 Yes, Ace; It was well crafted essay. II just have no desire to click on the llink and I'm under no compulsion to think that I would or should want to listen to it. Cranky oldster? ii'm about 10 years older than you are .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 30, 2013 02:36 PM (iHoZl)

137 Roller coaster.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at August 30, 2013 02:36 PM (xhupI)

138 Thgis post sickens and nauseates me, publication of it proves the hippies have won. It's time to turn off your TVs and radios and move to your shelters and/or caves.

Posted by: Purity Republican at August 30, 2013 02:36 PM (v1mq9)

139 Don't let the trolls get to you, Ace. Or the doozy music critics. Every time music comes up here I zone out because it's an endless stream of Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 30, 2013 02:36 PM (NLqIR)

140 I think you misunderstand. I enjoyed the post despite not knowing of the existence of Robin Thicke prior to him dry humping Hannah Montana. I think I made that clear, but since I think I started the whole "eh, who's that?" thread I thought I should point it out again just in case.

Posted by: Lauren at August 30, 2013 02:37 PM (ELdpj)

141 I suspect it's hard to ignore the haters but it was a good post, and I don't think I've ever heard the song before and I read and enjoyed the whole thing. I haven't taken my meds for a while though.

Posted by: BuckIV at August 30, 2013 02:37 PM (gedHR)

142

I'll put up the Only Kind of Post some of you can enjoy

 

Hipster Slap Fight!?

 

Posted by: Zombie Geroge Michael's Sports Machine at August 30, 2013 02:37 PM (XntP1)

143 >Every time music comes up here I zone out because it's an endless stream of Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 30, 2013 07:36 PM (NLqIR)



when has that ever happened?

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 02:37 PM (8sCoq)

144 rahr... survival seeds... glenn beck... rarrrh... mark levin.. rarrh

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 07:33 PM (/IWYB)

AND BUY GOLD RIGHT NOW

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 02:37 PM (fRlGp)

145 *I listed to 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s songs during long road trips, and now I have the Sirius/XM channels on my radio. So shoot me.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 07:11 PM (dw9bg)


When I drive my parents' car to Florida for them in the fall (and back in the spring) the 50's and 60's channels are what I listen to.


I want to enjoy my ride as much as I-75 can be enjoyed.

Posted by: Mikey NTH Spittle-Flecked Diatribes Now 25% Off! at August 30, 2013 02:37 PM (gmoEG)

146 Anyone who doesn't like my digeridoo/polka fusion mix tape is a fag.

Posted by: zsasz at August 30, 2013 02:38 PM (xgsCw)

147 A nice boobeh post that hat's obama too? Asshole

Posted by: weekend drunk at August 30, 2013 02:38 PM (V+Pei)

148 Great article/opinion. Question. Hootie and the Blowfish were successfully sued by Bob Dylan for quoting one of his lyrics in his song. Your article states that the law relies on lifting a melody to be plagiarist. So how did Dylan successful sue Hootie even though their song was nothing like the Dylan song, and only referenced them ironically?

Posted by: palooka at August 30, 2013 02:38 PM (gQMbZ)

149 20 years from now, when the dead irradiated cities only echo with the skittering of giant radroaches and the moaning of the wind, will anyone remember this?


Posted by: The Lone Wanderer

 

Yeah, I'm going to remember that brunette until the day I die, I think.

Posted by: todler at August 30, 2013 02:38 PM (QukiJ)

150 I"m taking the post down. I'll put it up at Breitbart.


I'll put up the Only Kind of Post some of you can enjoy. "Obama sucks," yayyyy.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 07:34 PM (/IWYB)

 

A lil thin-skinned today, are we?

Posted by: Granny Liberty at August 30, 2013 02:38 PM (lHJyk)

151 Song is a total ripoff of the old Patsy Cline classic, "Mustache Ridahzz"

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 30, 2013 02:38 PM (+lsX1)

152 >>> Anyone under 65 "outraged" over the new sound can kiss my 28-year-old ass. I'm not outraged, I'm closer to apathetic. Time for yer paddlin'

Posted by: fluffy at August 30, 2013 02:38 PM (7y1wy)

153 Wow, that NSFW version is ... brb

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 30, 2013 02:39 PM (/g7op)

154 144 rahr... survival seeds... glenn beck... rarrrh... mark levin.. rarrh

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 07:33 PM (/IWYB) AND BUY GOLD RIGHT NOW

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 07:37 PM (fRlGp)


--You know what's funny?  I think the last time I heard from Alan Thicke he was hawking gold in a radio commercial last year (I think during Dennis Prager's show).

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 02:39 PM (bufJH)

155 Jay-Z and his ilk had to pay licensing fees for those samples. There is still a lot of unauthorized sampling going on in underground rap and electronic dance music circles, but if you're on a major label, you gotta clear your samples.

Posted by: Alex at August 30, 2013 07:17 PM (/yzYn)


Problem is, if the rap scum are sampling the work of a dead artist, it's whatever record company owns the rights that gets to say yea or nay to the sample. And since record companies are run and owned by scum, too, you get the voice of some sweet, decent person like Ella Fitzgerald  getting mixed with the electronic crapola from some rapper.



If the artist being sampled is not alive and willing to give creative input to the sampling process, no samples should be allowed. It's called respect.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 30, 2013 02:39 PM (60Q+L)

156

Look, this is only so we can talk about the absolute perfection that is shaking her melons to the beat of Marvin Gaye.

Look at her.

LOOK AT HER!

Now shuddup.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 02:39 PM (XntP1)

157 We need some Billy Joel.  Keeping the Faith.
http://youtu.be/ph7oZnBH05s

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 30, 2013 02:39 PM (zogjM)

158 when has that ever happened? Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 07:37 PM (8sCoq) That rush of air that just happened? Don't worry about it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 30, 2013 02:39 PM (NLqIR)

159 I thought the post was hilarious,and I've never heard the song and never care to hear it.Also,though I probably heard the Marvin Gaye song,I don't remember it.None of that detracted from my appreciation of the post.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 02:39 PM (dBYCN)

160 Well, after reading the post, I'm sure that in some desk drawer or closet is the fuck I'm supposed to give about all this.

    Maybe we'll just leave it where it is.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 30, 2013 02:40 PM (SAMxH)

161 She's not a brunette. Or if she was, it went down the tub drain.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at August 30, 2013 02:40 PM (PH+2B)

162 You kids think that was music? THIS is MUSIC!

(Picks up Stratocaster, spasms from chronic shoulder muscle tear, pulls Marshall stack over onto self, falls back on couch, and bursts inflated ring cushion. )

Posted by: Lenny "Fuzz Face" Symbowski, who's band opened for The Doors in '66 at August 30, 2013 02:40 PM (DLu2s)

163 I think you misunderstand. I enjoyed the post despite not knowing of the existence of Robin Thicke prior to him dry humping Hannah Montana. I think I made that clear, but since I think I started the whole "eh, who's that?" thread I thought I should point it out again just in case. Posted by: Lauren at August 30, 2013 07:37 PM (ELdpj) I learned what "Twerking" means this past week.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 02:40 PM (dw9bg)

164 At least I didn't steal from a black man.

Posted by: Vanilla Ice at August 30, 2013 02:40 PM (jucos)

165 it's just another manic friday.....jeez.....don't get all wee wee'd up.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 30, 2013 02:40 PM (8JJ6O)

166 >>>Well, after reading the post, I'm sure that in some desk drawer or closet is the fuck I'm supposed to give about all this.

perfect.

Let's go out there and win some culture.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 02:41 PM (/IWYB)

167 REMOVE THIS POST IMMEDIATELY AND  GO TO YOUR ROOM/BASEMENT!!

Posted by: Purity Republican at August 30, 2013 02:41 PM (v1mq9)

168 >Anyone who doesn't like my digeridoo/polka fusion mix tape is a fag.

Posted by: zsasz at August 30, 2013 07:38 PM (xgsCw)



I have an MP3 album by The Didgeri Dudes

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 02:41 PM (8sCoq)

169 Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 30, 2013 07:30 PM (8JJ6O) Ha, no. Should have gone with my instinct and done Tinyurl to begin with, here it is: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ld36kct And Ace, I love your pop culture essays, don't stop. Speaking of. . when is the next movie review? I feel like both you and John Nolte have given up on the reviews, hurts my heart a little.

Posted by: LizLem, who owns a lawn and is not afraid to tell twentysomething hipsters to get off it at August 30, 2013 02:41 PM (8wqqE)

170 No ,I would not defend Robin Thicke from angry black people.I would throw him to the pack if I could.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 02:41 PM (dBYCN)

171 Who is the blond that Thicke is using as a Handpuppet at the VMAs?

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 02:41 PM (XntP1)

172 Short and Thicke does the trick.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at August 30, 2013 02:41 PM (uH46F)

173 I sense a disturbance in the force

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 02:41 PM (8sCoq)

174 Highlight the text below to read Robin Thicke's not-so-secret message to you. ACE HAS A BIG POST

Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2013 02:42 PM (FcR7P)

175 Please let's not do what the Dummies do and begin having pitched Racial Battles over One Millionaire and Another Millionaire because one is white and one is black and we cannot possibly let this affront to our tribe stand. Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 07:15 PM (/IWYB) I'm kind of surprised the race thing at all. You did notice that two of his collaborators on the song are black? The thing about the video: It looks just like a commercial. Super-stylized, the hashtag flashing at you right on the screen, no subtlety at all, everything in focus, quick cuts. I guess all modern music videos are like that, but this one seemed so much more obvious. The music industry is in the "fuck it all" mode anyway. You can't really "promote" music anymore without controversy. There aren't even albums, it's just downloads. And you can download stuff on a whim. I'll bet Marvin Gaye's family gets more royalties in the next 2 months than he got in his lifetime.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 02:42 PM (T0NGe)

176 video won't play on Wii U browser.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 30, 2013 02:42 PM (UOjzE)

177 >>> Anyone who doesn't like my digeridoo/polka fusion mix tape is a fag. Hahahaha!!

Posted by: fluffy at August 30, 2013 02:42 PM (7y1wy)

178 Why the hate, Ace?
He's doing an homage not stealing.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at August 30, 2013 02:42 PM (uH46F)

179 Robin Thicke is the son of Alan Thicke, which makes him irredeemably Canadian. Despite this pathetic joke of a backstory





Don't make fun of us Canadians. We are legion!

Posted by: Nellie Furtado at August 30, 2013 02:42 PM (bufJH)

180 I will say that my son, when he was only about eight years old, heard the opening of I want a new drug by Huey Lewis and said from the backseat of the car "This is the Ghostbusters song"

Posted by: FishUnderTheSea at August 30, 2013 02:42 PM (SdKsJ)

181 I read the other day that the Beatles copyright holders back in the day were considering action against Neil Innes back for his Rutles soundtrack..

Posted by: zsasz at August 30, 2013 02:43 PM (xgsCw)

182 not true ace I enjoy many of your posts and have said so. I think it's more of a complaint about modern culture than about your essay. DOes it surprise you that older conservatives might have a different opinion about music than you do? Stop whining, cranky youngster. J/K

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 30, 2013 02:43 PM (iHoZl)

183 I'm kind of surprised the race thing at all. You did notice that two of his collaborators on the song are black?


As well as some of his best friends.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 30, 2013 02:43 PM (8ZskC)

184 >>>I think you misunderstand

i wasn't talking about you.

Whatever, there are like a bunch of great jokes in there but none of them say "Obama sucks" so I guess they're not such great jokes at all.

The only thing the Cranky Brigade can say is the same shit they always say.

At no point did I say "you must like this song."  I don't care if you like this song.

But to sneer and dismiss a lot of actual hard work and writing on MY part because YOU DON'T LIKE CONTEMPORARY MUSIC (something that is unnecessary to say because it is A HUGE GIVEN), is disrespectful and assholish.

Ever hear "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say it?"

Yeah, whatever.  Conservatives are so polite.

No they're not. They're frankly mostly assholes like every other group on the planet.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 02:43 PM (/IWYB)

185 Robin  Thicke's  new album is actually a  composite of music you already know and love.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 02:44 PM (XntP1)

186 Up next, movie review of one directions new film.15 paragraphs of socially biting hilarity, can't wait

Posted by: weekend drunk at August 30, 2013 02:44 PM (V+Pei)

187 But doesn't the ABC song sound exactly like "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star"? Posted by: Seamus Muldoon According to my 21 month old it does. He has a toy that plays twinkle, but he sings the alphabet. I think he is racist.

Posted by: traye at August 30, 2013 02:44 PM (fKJaE)

188 John Nolte used to do not much other than movie reviews back when he was anonymous and the site was called Dirty Harry's Place.I was a regular commenter there.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 02:44 PM (dBYCN)

189 Robin Thicke is the son of Alan Thicke, which makes him irredeemably Canadian. Despite this pathetic joke of a backstory Don't make fun of us Canadians. We are legion! Posted by: Nellie Furtado at August 30, 2013 07:42 PM (bufJH) We will go on!

Posted by: Celeine Dion at August 30, 2013 02:44 PM (dw9bg)

190 Ok, who the fuck is Robin Thicke, I never heard this so called "hit" song and I don't like Marvin Gaye, he sounds like he is yodeling and I hate yodeling

Posted by: Ma Bell at August 30, 2013 02:45 PM (RLdcX)

191 In Canada beavers patrol you!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at August 30, 2013 02:45 PM (uH46F)

192 All of the modern day rappers steal music from those that came out with something original, white or black.  I can't get too upset about it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at August 30, 2013 02:45 PM (jucos)

193 I had to leave my computer for a minute, what'd I miss?

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 30, 2013 02:45 PM (v1mq9)

194 Holy mentruatin' Ewoks, Batman. I sure don't feel the love.


Must be 'cause I'm black.

Posted by: Cab Calloway at August 30, 2013 02:45 PM (5J56L)

195 You don't like Marvin Gaye?   What the hell is wrong with you?

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 02:46 PM (XntP1)

196 Thicke has been with the same woman for 20 years . I would think some on the right would give him at least an atta boy for that.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at August 30, 2013 02:46 PM (3aj5/)

197 Anyone under 65 "outraged" over the new sound can kiss my 28-year-old ass.

Does it have a tattoo of Cassiopeiae on it? Inquiring minds, and all that.

Posted by: That Guy at August 30, 2013 02:46 PM (Dwehj)

198 Ok, who the fuck is Robin Thicke, I never heard this so called "hit" song and I don't like Marvin Gaye, he sounds like he is yodeling and I hate yodeling Posted by: Ma Bell at August 30, 2013 07:45 PM (RLdcX) Son of Alan Thicke, the actor from "Growing Pains". You can live a happy and contented life without hearing Robin's music.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 02:46 PM (dw9bg)

199 Just when you thought you had a handle on this Syrian “thing” along comes … The U.S. military, struggling after defense cuts of tens of billions of dollars, will be unable to pay for attacks on Syria from current operating funds and must seek additional money from Congress, according to congressional aides.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 30, 2013 02:46 PM (q2b5x)

200 I HAVENT LISTENED TO THE RADIO SINCE THEY STOPPED PLAYING LAWRENCE WELK! HOW DOES THIS POST HELP STOP OBAMA??

Posted by: TRUE CONSERVATIVE at August 30, 2013 02:47 PM (RBQss)

201 Thicke is fat. Seriously, dude, if you're going to be a popstar, do some crunches. That blubber flab is a turn off.

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 30, 2013 02:47 PM (NHMrq)

202 " I would think some on the right would give him at least an atta boy for that." Well...has he been fingering random blonds for the past 20 years?

Posted by: Lauren at August 30, 2013 02:47 PM (ELdpj)

203

A-B-C-D-E-F-G

How I wonder what you are.

Q-R-S.  T-U-V.

Like a diamond in the sky.

Twinkle twinkle A-B-C's

Next time won't you sing with me?

 


 

(I'm starting with the REALLY young set as I try to re-take the culture)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 30, 2013 02:47 PM (mvenn)

204 It is NOT number one in Peruvia.  I think Paul Anka still has the number one hit on the charts.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at August 30, 2013 02:47 PM (jucos)

205 Posted by: palooka at August 30, 2013 07:38 PM (gQMbZ) Beach Boys successfully sued Snoop Dog/Katy Perry or whomever for saying a line from "California Girls" in their song. So it happens. I think at a certain point the lines are, um, blurred on whether you are paying homage or outright stealing. Ace's #10 point reminded me of a story Billy Joel told on VH1 Unplugged. He said he wrote this epic song, loved it, took it to his band and they were like, dude, that song ALREADY exists. It was exactly like another song out there and he had no clue, so had to drop it once he found out. I think that happens, but with Thicke admitting he loves the Gaye song such deniable plausibility is out the window.

Posted by: LizLem, who owns a lawn and is not afraid to tell twentysomething hipsters to get off it at August 30, 2013 02:48 PM (8wqqE)

206 Adam Carolla made a pretty compelling case that "Soulfinger" by the Bar-Kays sounds far more like the "Ghostbusters" theme than "I Want a New Drug."

Posted by: Oschisms at August 30, 2013 02:48 PM (pfVS8)

207 But doesn't the ABC song sound exactly like "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star"? And 'Baa, baa, black sheep. Have you any wool?'

Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2013 02:48 PM (FcR7P)

208 Damn, ace. Your music reviews are even longer than your movie reviews. Seriously, that was awesome. I've never heard of Robin Thicke before, and I probably won't click on the video.

Posted by: rickl at August 30, 2013 02:49 PM (sdi6R)

209

Video   is  a Number One with no audio, blondes or tokens.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 30, 2013 02:49 PM (1Y+hH)

210 192 All of the modern day rappers steal music from those that came out with something original, white or black. I can't get too upset about it. Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at August 30, 2013 07:45 PM (jucos) Well, I nearly drove my car in a ditch one day when a song came on the radio by "Korn" and it was that idiotic remake of "The Wall" Pt.1

Posted by: Ma Bell at August 30, 2013 02:49 PM (RLdcX)

211 >>>>They're frankly mostly assholes like every other group on the planet.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 07:43 PM (/IWYB)


Do like me and go libertarian!  Your blood pressure drops 15 points and your IQ goes up 20!

Posted by: John the Libertarian at August 30, 2013 02:49 PM (/rhjC)

212 Maybe legal but the Trouble Man song is stolen.

Posted by: Golfman back in NC at August 30, 2013 02:49 PM (/djtm)

213 Conservatives are so polite.
No they're not. They're frankly mostly assholes like every other group on the planet.


That's gonna leave a mark. I think.

Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at August 30, 2013 02:49 PM (Dwehj)

214 I think one the things about Ghostbuster's is that I thought they approached Huey Lewis to do the theme song and he turned them down.  So they went out and got someone to do a theme song that sounds like something Huey Lewis would do.  So its kind of working against them that they didn't want to rip him off.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 02:49 PM (LI48c)

215 Every pop song is Pachelbel's Canon in D: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM

Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 02:50 PM (T0NGe)

216 Ace, I said who because I've no clue as to Thicke or his music. I did enjoy reading your post.

That said, I think the newest thing on my player is Awolnation, so I'm old.

Posted by: Joethefatman (@joethefatman1) at August 30, 2013 02:50 PM (MnSla)

217

>>> I probably won't click on the video.

 

 

I am sorry to hear about the loss of your penis.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 02:50 PM (XntP1)

218 Thanks Ace.  Brilliant work.

Posted by: eureka! at August 30, 2013 02:50 PM (CCfZi)

219 You lazy bastards play God Save The Queen over here all the time with different words. Kinda your country history isn't it?

Posted by: crazy brit at August 30, 2013 02:51 PM (V+Pei)

220

And now, since it's Labor Day weekend, I'm going to start the night off with an adult beverage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

(Jack Daniels with  Metamucil  on the rocks)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 30, 2013 02:51 PM (mvenn)

221 I enjoyed the post and the rant.

(Ace!  I can get you wholesale prices on those diatribes; and I'm overstocked in sneers and denunciations, o give me a call and we'll work out a deal.

I'll throw in free shipping!)

Posted by: Mikey NTH Spittle-Flecked Diatribes Now 25% Off! at August 30, 2013 02:51 PM (gmoEG)

222 Songs of my yoot: "Stay Away from the Rail Road Tracks" "The Policeman Is Your Friend" "Red Light/Green Light"

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 30, 2013 02:51 PM (NHMrq)

223 Song is a total ripoff of Gordon Lightfoot's "Stinkfinger"

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 30, 2013 02:51 PM (+lsX1)

224 >Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 07:43 PM (/IWYB)



C'mon down from the ledge. We can work this out.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 02:51 PM (8sCoq)

225 If Kate Middleton puts together a nice rendition of God Save The Queen, I'm willing to overlook their shameless theft of America, The Beautiful.

Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2013 02:51 PM (FcR7P)

226 "... you have separated yourselves from current culture." LOL x 10E12. Current culture? I remember when culture was culture instead of transexual longings for nihilism. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmBuxe-eW5A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVzvRsl4rEM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKG6zN_EjWw It was a slow day And the sun was beating On the soldiers by the side of the road There was a bright light A shattering of shop windows The bomb in the baby carriage Was wired to the radio These are the days of miracle and wonder This is the long distance call The way the camera follows us in slo-mo The way we look to us all The way we look to a distant constellation That's dying in a corner of the sky These are the days of miracle and wonder And don't cry baby, don't cry Don't cry It was a dry wind And it swept across the desert And it curled into the circle of birth And the dead sand Falling on the children The mothers and the fathers And the automatic earth These are the days of miracle and wonder This is the long distance call The way the camera follows us in slo-mo The way we look to us all The way we look to a distant constellation That's dying in a corner of the sky These are the days of miracle and wonder And don't cry baby, don't cry Don't cry It's a turn-around jump shot It's everybody jump start It's every generation throws a hero up the pop charts Medicine is magical and magical is art The Boy in the Bubble And the baby with the baboon heart And I believe These are the days of lasers in the jungle Lasers in the jungle somewhere Staccato signals of constant information A loose affiliation of millionaires And billionaires and baby These are the days of miracle and wonder This is the long distance call The way the camera follows us in slo-mo The way we look to us all The way we look to a distant constellation That's dying in a corner of the sky These are the days of miracle and wonder And don't cry baby, don't cry Don't cry Forget about it ace, there is no new thing under the sun and the sooner you get used to it the sooner you begin to unlink the chains of 'current culture'.

Posted by: angel with a sword at August 30, 2013 02:52 PM (hpgw1)

227 I forgot, who won the lawsuit about "ABC" by the Jackson 5 versus "O.P.P." by Naughty by Nature?

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 02:52 PM (bufJH)

228 Posted by: Mikey



Come for the post, stay for the rant.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 30, 2013 02:52 PM (v1mq9)

229 A New York City social liberal calling conservatives assholes. Never would have thought that could happen.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at August 30, 2013 02:52 PM (3aj5/)

230 I learned what "Twerking" means this past week.

 

 

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 07:40 PM (dw9bg)

 

T'Werk?   that's where I go to earn a living...

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 30, 2013 02:52 PM (lZBBB)

231

 

I went for a walk. Did Prezzy Nobel   Peace Prize kill anyone yet?

 

 

 

And why is it that when some idiot  Canadian does something it's the fault of every  white person on the planet?

Posted by: Meremortal at August 30, 2013 02:52 PM (1Y+hH)

232 181 I read the other day that the Beatles copyright holders back in the day were considering action against Neil Innes back for his Rutles soundtrack.. Posted by: zsasz at August 30, 2013 07:43 PM (xgsCw) I never heard that before. George Harrison was heavily involved with the Rutles TV show.

Posted by: rickl at August 30, 2013 02:52 PM (sdi6R)

233 A lil thin-skinned today, are we?

Posted by: Granny Liberty at August 30, 2013 07:38 PM (lHJyk)

 

Comment coming from some sourpuss that's never posted here before.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 02:53 PM (LI48c)

234 You left out that he claims to have spent half a million on pot and his love of pot is not exactly neglected in the subtleties of the song.


As you can imagine, I love that video.  It's just so okay so what I want to do is have hot naked women wandering around and then an acknowledgement that I'm hung like an elephant.   I'm just gonna do that.


The only way it could have gotten even more hilariously I am so much better than you is he'd had an on screen threesome with his wife and Tracey Gold.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 02:53 PM (Gk3SS)

235 Sounds like he actually ripped off Prince.

Posted by: Strife at August 30, 2013 02:53 PM (Ojgjr)

236 i'd never heard of Thicke until the VMA broohaha... nor the hit song before now. Makes me feel like i'm getting older and older. (36 and rapidly eroding).

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 30, 2013 02:53 PM (UOjzE)

237 This post is hilarious.  Already sent it to a bunch of friends.

But I knew the responses in the comments that would be coming.  Ace, let's be honest: a lot of people who frequent the comment sense are bitter old prunes who aren't just divorced from modern culture, but active hate it and resent it.  By definition, if something is relevant and topical in pop culture right now, it's inherently suspect and probably supports Obama too or whatever.

It's fucking sad to see but oh so predictable.

For the record I'd rather eat a gun than listen to most hip-hop, but I love Marvin Gaye (though he's no Al Green -- the TRUE genius of '70s soul) and I actually really sort of like that dumb Thicke song.  The video is glorious genius.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 02:53 PM (n/+FT)

238 You lazy bastards play God Save The Queen over here all the time with different words. Kinda your country history isn't it?
And even their national anthem too!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at August 30, 2013 02:53 PM (uH46F)

239 >Do like me and go libertarian! Your blood pressure drops 15 points and your IQ goes up 20!


yes but you're always locked in rhetorical death-matches with other libertarians about who is libertarian-er than who

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 02:53 PM (8sCoq)

240 Did you know that Our Country Tis of Thee is the EXACT SAME TUNE as God Save The Queen?  This stealing shit goes back 100's of years.  I wonder who Mozart stole from?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at August 30, 2013 02:53 PM (jucos)

241 I like the chicks.

Posted by: Fritz at August 30, 2013 02:53 PM (KIHQS)

242 235 Sounds like he actually ripped off Prince. Posted by: Strife at August 30, 2013 07:53 PM (Ojgjr) I've heard of Prince.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 30, 2013 02:54 PM (UOjzE)

243 I am too possibly too young to appreciate. frank Sinatra and I do like Bing Crosby but I only know of him from old movies. My modern musical education ended with Dire straits. I like them a lot but I'm really more of a classical music person along with some folk and Irish music.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 30, 2013 02:54 PM (iHoZl)

244 Her shoes are awful. And--Ben Affleck looks smahterer.

Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2013 02:54 PM (r2PLg)

245 "Blurred Lines" is not a rip-off, or rather no more of a rip-off than most pop. If you want some real rip-offs, google "Led Zeppelin plagiarism" or something similar (I still love love Led Zep though).

Posted by: toliver at August 30, 2013 02:55 PM (fCAbm)

246 >>All of the modern day rappers steal music from those that came out with something original, white or black. I can't get too upset about it. Pretty much got started with Run DMC using Walk This Way. But at least they had the decency to admit they were using the rhythm and Aerosmith approved. I have no problem with that, hell, been going on forever. I do have a problem with guys like Thicke stealing and pretending they wrote it. This has been brewing for some time and it is an obvious ripoff.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2013 02:55 PM (g1DWB)

247

There are only a few different beats...

 

There are only what.... 12 notes? (counting sharps)...

 

Eventually... all music will be written....

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 30, 2013 02:55 PM (lZBBB)

248 Great, Jeff B has shown up to take a shit on the proceedings.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 30, 2013 02:55 PM (v1mq9)

249 a lot of people who frequent the comment sense are bitter old prunes

I guess we gotta consider the source?

Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at August 30, 2013 02:55 PM (Dwehj)

250 If Alan Thicke had fucked his slave and she had a boy,   he   probably would've looked like  Marvin  Gaye.

Posted by: Roy at August 30, 2013 02:55 PM (tiOTz)

251

I went for a walk. Did Prezzy Nobel Peace Prize kill anyone yet?

:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

I can't wait!

Posted by: Green Helmet Guy at August 30, 2013 02:55 PM (jucos)

252 237 This post is hilarious. Already sent it to a bunch of friends. But I knew the responses in the comments that would be coming. Ace, let's be honest: a lot of people who frequent the comment sense are bitter old prunes who aren't just divorced from modern culture, but active hate it and resent it. By definition, if something is relevant and topical in pop culture right now, it's inherently suspect and probably supports Obama too or whatever. It's fucking sad to see but oh so predictable. For the record I'd rather eat a gun than listen to most hip-hop, but I love Marvin Gaye (though he's no Al Green -- the TRUE genius of '70s soul) and I actually really sort of like that dumb Thicke song. The video is glorious genius. Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 07:53 PM (n/+FT) i find the post hilarious i find ace's reaction to the lack of ass kissing pathetic.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 30, 2013 02:56 PM (8JJ6O)

253 I don't know if you can call that a Top Ten Bottoming Out, but Fridays sure have gotten interesting around here. Just got up and read Ace's "music Review", and am waiting for someone to rip off Suicide is Painless with a rap sound and Thicke boning Cadavers. Was gonna predict it's coming but that would be gratuitous.

Posted by: ontherocks at August 30, 2013 02:56 PM (TUR/8)

254 # 224 LOL

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 30, 2013 02:56 PM (iHoZl)

255 I think one the things about Ghostbuster's is that I thought they approached Huey Lewis to do the theme song and he turned them down. So they went out and got someone to do a theme song that sounds like something Huey Lewis would do. This is done a lot on TV shows. They try to get a sound-alike. In fact, WKRP had licences to play actual pop songs for 5 years. So on the DVDs they have "sound-alikes" and in some cases, you can figure out what song they're trying to mimic.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 02:56 PM (T0NGe)

256 The music I listen to is the best and the music you listen to is crap

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 02:57 PM (8sCoq)

257 That said, as I've said in a thread previously, if inserting yourself into blackness makes you racist, well then damn. Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 07:11 PM (fRlGp)


Shouldn't you change your nic to KKAK?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 02:57 PM (Gk3SS)

258

Hey ace, I know your pissed at all the whiny bitches that are really upset about a fun post on a Friday night before the long weekend.  But if you are interested in "the songs that sound like other songs and are they actually the same" stuff there is a book you might like.  Its called   Sounds Like Teen Spirit: Stolen Melodies, Ripped-Off Riffs, and the Secret History of Rock and Roll

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 02:57 PM (LI48c)

259 Did you know that Our Country Tis of Thee is the EXACT SAME TUNE as God Save The Queen? This stealing shit goes back 100's of years. I wonder who Mozart stole from? Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at August 30, 2013 07:53 PM (jucos) Yep. When I moved to the States from Canada I learned this.

Posted by: Vendette needs a chiropractor for her neck at August 30, 2013 02:57 PM (dw9bg)

260 Thank you ace! I would have never heard that song, which I promptly stole for my phone, nor would I have seen that brunette. O lawd. That.brunette.

Posted by: traye at August 30, 2013 02:58 PM (fKJaE)

261  235 Sounds like he actually ripped off Prince.
Posted by: Strife at August 30, 2013 07:53 PM (Ojgjr)

I've heard of Prince.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 30, 2013 07:54 PM (UOjzE)

_____________

Prince grew up in my church.  I don't think the message stuck.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at August 30, 2013 02:58 PM (jucos)

262 It's a catchy tune but it doesn't compare to Marvin Gaye, I didn't get the 'Huey Lewis/Ray Parker deal either,

Posted by: Raymond Luxury Yacht at August 30, 2013 02:59 PM (Jsiw/)

263 And as a child watching American TV and wondering, "Why are they playing 'God Save The Queen'?"

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at August 30, 2013 02:59 PM (uH46F)

264 Remember two years ago when feminists threatened to string up Lady Gaga for ripping off Madonna.  Yeah, me neither. 

Posted by: no good deed at August 30, 2013 02:59 PM (WmLrU)

265 >>>Blurred Lines" is not a rip-off, or rather no more of a rip-off than most pop. If you want some real rip-offs, google "Led Zeppelin plagiarism" or something similar (I still love love Led Zep though).


eh. There's a lot of stealing in music.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 03:00 PM (/IWYB)

266 Ace is spanking you on Twitter

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 03:00 PM (8sCoq)

267 An...interesting video ace. Good background music was about all I heard. I find myself listening to the jazz stations now because even the "alternative" rock stations have devolved into the same 3 or 400 "classic" rock songs.

Posted by: Tom22ndState at August 30, 2013 03:00 PM (MPj6J)

268 "who aren't just divorced from modern culture, but active hate it and resent it. By definition, if something is relevant and topical in pop culture right now, it's inherently suspect and probably supports Obama too or whatever." Wow Jeff B, what incredible insight! Vous devez être clairvoyant et la personne la plus intelligente dans la chambre sauf pour le messie.

Posted by: angel with a sword at August 30, 2013 03:00 PM (hpgw1)

269 Yeah, I used to go for girls like that brunette, way back in my single days. (I didn't say I actually snagged any.) One thing I learned is, they're terribly expensive. The other thing was, they'd treat people like dirt because they were so attractive, there was always somebody around the corner who would fall all over themselves for them.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at August 30, 2013 03:00 PM (/9iSQ)

270 Dang, I feel like I just read somebody's sociology Ph.D. dissertation. I mean, it's a good post, but, like, can I have my time back, please?

Posted by: Hurricane Chelsea at August 30, 2013 03:00 PM (pginn)

271 "129 I"m taking the post down. I'll put it up at Breitbart. I'll put up the Only Kind of Post some of you can enjoy. "Obama sucks," yayyyy." But Breitbart (God rest his soul) only reads the comments...

Posted by: runningrn at August 30, 2013 03:00 PM (PLOz8)

272 The way that post is written is genius.  And Robin Thicke is gross.

Posted by: dj at August 30, 2013 03:00 PM (mq8Xq)

273 And as a child watching American TV and wondering, "Why are they playing 'God Save The Queen'?" Posted by: andycanuck at August 30, 2013 07:59 PM (uH46F) Exactly!

Posted by: Vendette needs a chiropractor for her neck at August 30, 2013 03:00 PM (dw9bg)

274 Not safe for work and also a bit of a must.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 03:00 PM (XntP1)

275 The boobehs were nice, but the video suffers from the commonplace failing of all music videos: editing in cuts so short that they rival the half-life of a Higgs boson. I want a long, lingering gaze at the nice boobehs, not a microsecond flash.



I watched the entire video. Fortunately, the power to my computer speakers is off, and I avoided hearing it. The post itself is interesting, and worthwhile. Just because we old farts rag on modern music, Ace, doesn't mean we are ragging on you for writing about it. It's a social phenomenon, and needs to be addressed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 30, 2013 03:00 PM (60Q+L)

276 >>>>Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 07:53 PM (8sCoq)

True dat.  Until the drugs kick in.

Posted by: John the Libertarian at August 30, 2013 03:01 PM (/rhjC)

277 They stole my stuff, those lousy fucking bastards. i'm the musical genius. Just listen close and you'll see. Here just take this and you'll see how clear it all is

Posted by: crazy guy at August 30, 2013 03:01 PM (V+Pei)

278 Led Zeppelin owes the Tolkien estate millions!

Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 30, 2013 03:01 PM (29vnO)

279
Pretty much got started with Run DMC using Walk This Way. But at least they had the decency to admit they were using the rhythm and Aerosmith approved.


Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2013 07:55 PM (g1DWB)


--It's hard to call Run-DMC's "Walk This Way" a rip-off considering the Aerosmith played the song with them.  It was just a re-make.

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 03:01 PM (bufJH)

280 Ace, admit it: this is your new pre game song And you aren't the only one whose gone through a quart of hand lotion after watching the video lmao

Posted by: Danny at August 30, 2013 03:02 PM (cfpiy)

281

"...there was always somebody around the corner who would fall all over themselves for them."

 

 

 

*gets up, dusts  self off*

 

Posted by: Meremortal at August 30, 2013 03:02 PM (1Y+hH)

282 The brunette in the video is flawlessly beautiful and blurred lines really doesn't sound much like got to give it up to my ears. I can hear certain things in one that are evocative of the other but they are different songs.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 30, 2013 03:03 PM (hmUex)

283 It's hard ro be completely original in music.Even if you aren't trying everything you have heard is in your subconcious influencing your writing.I would imagine.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 03:03 PM (dBYCN)

284 The real question is-- who does Thicke rip off when you play this thing backwards? Maybe he stiffs himself.

Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2013 03:03 PM (r2PLg)

285 >>>i find the post hilarious i find ace's reaction to the lack of ass kissing pathetic.....

Eh, it's not about not having his ass-kissed, I'm pretty sure.  It's about the thuddingly, soul-deadeningly predictable "I HATE THIS POP CULTURE TRASH DON'T YE KNOW THERE'S A WAR ON WHAT ABOUT OBAMA?" reaction.  I'm guessing it begins to feel like he's not connecting with his intended audience -- the people who DO comment (which may not = read but feels like it) seem to be the wrong group for this.

Because it's funny.  And relevant.  And boobies.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 03:03 PM (n/+FT)

286 Posted by: Vendette needs a chiropractor for her neck at August 30, 2013 07:57 PM (dw9bg)


Noooo. *hauls over Awesome Stepstool of Awesomeness*  *clambers up*  *rubs neck for you*


Don't.  Just don't do it.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 03:03 PM (Gk3SS)

287
   On the other side of this, if you watch the video on mute, one needn't get upset about the plagiarism implied.

   So there's that.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 30, 2013 03:03 PM (SAMxH)

288 Robin Thicke is, apparently, the first successful human clone...

Posted by: Janetoo at August 30, 2013 03:03 PM (DVU82)

289 Prince grew up in my church. I don't think the message stuck. Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at August 30, 2013 07:58 PM (jucos) if i'm remembering a recent interview correctly, Prince is acually pretty serious about his faith. anyways, the dude never got a cellphone, which i think is pretty cool.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 30, 2013 03:04 PM (UOjzE)

290 #1. Robin Thicke Will Probably Get Away With Stealing Marvin Gaye's Songs and Then We'll Have Widespread Race Riots.

...or, as I call it, Operation Plausible Deniability.

Posted by: Ear Leader at August 30, 2013 03:04 PM (U82Km)

291 This is done a lot on TV shows. They try to get a sound-alike. In fact, WKRP had licences to play actual pop songs for 5 years. So on the DVDs they have "sound-alikes" and in some cases, you can figure out what song they're trying to mimic.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 07:56 PM (T0NGe)

 

Hell Conan actually has a bit like this where he has a lounge singer guy sing a song and the audience is supposed to guess which song it sounds like but isn't.  And I think that stuff with WKRP is one of the reasons there was a delay to get them onto dvd.  Is it the 5 year license or is it that they didn't get rights to play them on the new medium of DVD?  Do rerun episodes that air still have the actual songs?

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 03:04 PM (LI48c)

292 Robin Thicke???

Never heard of him.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at August 30, 2013 03:04 PM (nm+kb)

293 @283 Everything is pachabels canon in d, everything.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 30, 2013 03:04 PM (hmUex)

294 Right it was more of a cover, is that Emily Ratajkowski (sic).

Posted by: Raymond Luxury Yacht at August 30, 2013 03:04 PM (Jsiw/)

295 Reminds me of the Flaming Lips>Cat Stevens thing to.

Posted by: palooka at August 30, 2013 03:05 PM (gQMbZ)

296 Hey I totally understand the outrage. When someone stole my music, I got downright stabby.

Posted by: Charles MManson at August 30, 2013 03:05 PM (GmTxn)

297

Marvin Gaye was banging every thing that moved....

 

So are all the other big male (and some female-I'm looking at you Madonna)music stars, movie stars and sports stars as we lead our pathetic internet lives... 

 

I should have learned to play the guitar.... should've learned to play them drums...... damn.

Posted by: An alarming observation if you're into all that sex adventure stuff at August 30, 2013 03:05 PM (+GlI2)

298 phoenixgirl,

it's not the lack of ass-kissing, it's the affirmatively derogatory criticism for daring to post on something which is currently culturally relevant. (This is the current #1 song in the country and it has been for 10 weeks -- so sorry to BOTHER anyone with something that's actually going on in the world of pop music.)

Let's Win the Culture.  What does this mean?

Oh I see what we REALLY mean by it: Endlessly regurgitating "I don't like that" for everything that comes along like the old fogies on the muppets.

Whatever. 

I'm really tired of hearing "This topic does not appeal to my demographic."

I love Andy, but I"m not a gun guy -- his Gun Threads do not appeal to my demographic.

Do  I fucking HAVE TO SAY IT EVERY TIME HE POSTS A GUN THREAD?

No. Because NO ONE ASKED.  The world will successfully spin on without my lodging of a complaint that "this thread does not appeal to my cultural and generational bracket."

WHAT THE FUCK IS IT THAT COMPELS PEOPLE TO SIMPLY GROUSE ABOUT GODDAMNED EVERYTHING?

If people don't like the song, SAY THAT. How about people actually READ THE POST and comment on the ACTUAL POST rather than simply "reviewing the genre of current pop music" and then criticizing me for daring to write about it?

"Win the Culture."

Whatever.  Good luck with that guys.






Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 03:05 PM (/IWYB)

299 OK, I decided to watch the video. Aaaaand...it won't play for me.

Posted by: rickl at August 30, 2013 03:05 PM (sdi6R)

300 Oh ffs.

Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2013 03:05 PM (5H6zj)

301 284 who does Thicke rip off when you play this thing backwards?

Maybe he stiffs himself.


Bob Dole wonders if this works with Bob Dole's speeches.

Posted by: Bob Dole at August 30, 2013 03:05 PM (U82Km)

302 That video would be truly awesome if it didn't have that retarded # T H I C K E all over its shit. Those are some damned fine girls. And the song really isn't half bad. The worst part was the rap part, not suprisingly

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2013 03:05 PM (L9AnB)

303 Posted by: Vendette needs a chiropractor for her neck at August 30, 2013 07:57 PM (dw9bg) Noooo. *hauls over Awesome Stepstool of Awesomeness* *clambers up* *rubs neck for you* Don't. Just don't do it. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 08:03 PM (Gk3SS) Thank you, AtC. Your benevolence knows no bounds.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 03:05 PM (dw9bg)

304 266 Ace is spanking you on Twitter Oh no, now I am in my old guy closet clinging to my gun with the safety off and my finger in the trigger guard waiting for current culture storm troopers to open the door. Sticks and stones... yadda, yadda.

Posted by: angel with a sword at August 30, 2013 03:06 PM (hpgw1)

305 Blurred Lines???

Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at August 30, 2013 03:06 PM (nm+kb)

306 299 OK, I decided to watch the video. Aaaaand...it won't play for me. Posted by: rickl Sadly, cookies are required.

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2013 03:06 PM (L9AnB)

307 >>> I find myself listening to the jazz stations now because even the "alternative" rock stations have devolved into the same 3 or 400 "classic" rock songs Radio is in a terrible state, probably in it's death throes.

Posted by: fluffy at August 30, 2013 03:06 PM (7y1wy)

308 Shit I should have done my last comment with a Foucault sock. Ewwww I just grosed myself out--thinking what would that look like....

Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2013 03:06 PM (r2PLg)

309 >>>That video would be truly awesome if it didn't have that retarded

# T H I C K E

I love that.  It works.  The whole song is about an endless shameless pickup attempt.  What better to compliment it than to have this guy promote his hastag every three seconds?

Thogh it does obscure some boobies a bunch of times.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 03:07 PM (/IWYB)

310 brunette looks like a cross between Heather Graham and Anne Hathaway.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 30, 2013 03:07 PM (UOjzE)

311 Some guy who hit a hollow log with a tree branch has a lot of effing royalties coming, bitchez!!!

Posted by: Meremortal at August 30, 2013 03:07 PM (1Y+hH)

312 I read the post but didn't join in on the comments b/c I had assumed it'd be all titteh talk. Silly me.

Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2013 03:07 PM (5H6zj)

313 And I thought I was having a bad day

Posted by: crazy guy at August 30, 2013 03:07 PM (V+Pei)

314  if i'm remembering a recent interview correctly, Prince is acually pretty serious about his faith. anyways, the dude never got a cellphone, which i think is pretty cool.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 30, 2013 08:04 PM (UOjzE)

_____________

He has been all over the place spiritually.  He is a weird bird and very protective.  Have a friend who played in The Time and also did solo work as a Prince protégé and even he doesn't really KNOW Prince. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at August 30, 2013 03:07 PM (jucos)

315 I always thought Gwen Stephanie's Wind It Up was better than the original "Lonely Goatherd" from Sound of Music Although I love to hear Juli Andrews yodeling, even on video.

Posted by: Hurricane Chelsea at August 30, 2013 03:07 PM (pginn)

316 278 Led Zeppelin owes the Tolkien estate millions! Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 30, 2013 08:01 PM (29vnO) they took the words with permission. I assume you are talking about "Battle of Evermore"

Posted by: Ma Bell at August 30, 2013 03:07 PM (RLdcX)

317 Gaye's song was released in 1977. It's 36 years old. Under 1909 copyright laws, you had 29 years and could renew for another 29 years. So under those laws, anything released before 1956 would be public domain now. Now we have copyrights of life+70. What? Now, all due respect to Marvin's family, but "You didn't build that." Marvin did. He deserved every dime he got from it. Sure, his kids ought to be able to get something out of it. But do descendants, many of whom were not alive when Marvin was alive, get the right to live off of him? In any other field, inheriting something would be all about the rich getting richer, but somehow inheriting copyright is sacred. Hell, most of these copyrights are pushed by the Disney corporation. Corporation. Buying stock somehow entitles you to the fruits of a man dead for over half a century.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 03:07 PM (T0NGe)

318 >>>I should have learned to play the guitar.... should've learned to play them drums...... damn.

The sad thing is that it works, it really, really works.  That douchebag who lived in your freshman dorm at college and was always playing a shitty version of Led Zeppelin's "The Rain Song?"  Yeah, he totally got to fingerbang the girl down the hall who you had a crush on but never could make it with. 

I spent a year getting pissed about stuff like then I said "fuck it" and went out and bought a guitar and taught myself to play it.  And guess what?  IT WORKS.  IT REALLY REALLY WORKS.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 03:07 PM (n/+FT)

319 Red line???

Never heard... oh look a squirrel.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at August 30, 2013 03:07 PM (nm+kb)

320

...it won't play for me./I]

 

 

It's on youtube, too. 

 

ProTip : Bring Kleenex.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 03:08 PM (XntP1)

321 AtC, may I provide you with some Gooey Butter Cake from St. Louis?

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 03:08 PM (dw9bg)

322 I like the rapey, ripped off Robin Thicke song.  So sue me...oh wait.

Posted by: no good deed at August 30, 2013 03:08 PM (WmLrU)

323 Eh, it's not about not having his ass-kissed,

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 08:03 PM (n/+FT)

 

he said, with his lips firmly fixed between a pair of ewok-cheeks.

Posted by: Granny Liberty at August 30, 2013 03:08 PM (lHJyk)

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 03:08 PM (XntP1)

325
Hell Conan actually has a bit like this where he has a lounge singer guy sing a song and the audience is supposed to guess which song it sounds like but isn't. And I think that stuff with WKRP is one of the reasons there was a delay to get them onto dvd. Is it the 5 year license or is it that they didn't get rights to play them on the new medium of DVD? Do rerun episodes that air still have the actual songs?

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 08:04 PM (LI48c)


--Of lot of the video cuts have been excised from the Beavis and Butt-Head DVDs. 

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 03:08 PM (bufJH)

326 He better wash that finger.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at August 30, 2013 03:09 PM (SzAZ7)

327 Jones in CO,

>>>Ace is spanking you on twitter.

Ace is also spanking you to your faces, right here.

#WinTheCulture

#ApparentlyMeansNeverStopGrousing

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 03:09 PM (/IWYB)

328 You know.... I think some of you guys are lying about being distracted by the boobs cuz- because I was just looking at how awful the shoes were and I missed the--- #THICKE thang. LIARS!!

Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2013 03:09 PM (r2PLg)

329 Would it be possible to plagiarize those boobies?  'Cause I'm thinking of making the same video with Prince singing lead on Pop Goes The Weasel.

Posted by: Fritz at August 30, 2013 03:09 PM (KIHQS)

330 Thogh it does obscure some boobies a bunch of times. THAT is the problem, my friend. If it just popped up on front of his gay ass mug, I'd not give it a second's thought.

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2013 03:09 PM (L9AnB)

331 I had never heard this song or seen the video until I looked it up after the VMAs. It's hip to be square.

Posted by: slatz at August 30, 2013 03:10 PM (yuZy4)

332 Wait- there are people who don't #HOLLOWPOINT recognize that he very clearly and obviously plagiarized Marvin Gaye?

If so, it's #HOLLOWPOINT time to spring for some new computer #HOLLOWPOINT speakers and/or hearing aid.

HOLLOWPOINT HAS
A BIG DICK

I admit wasn't previously familiar with Thicke's music #HOLLOWPOINT before, but listening to Thicke and Gaye side #HOLLOWPOINT by side?  Come on.  They're the same fucking songs (figuratively and literally).

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 30, 2013 03:10 PM (X9Mnx)

333

 

270 "Dang, I feel like I just read somebody's sociology Ph.D. dissertation."

 

I'll never understand people's urge to brag about having too short an attention span to read something longer than a Buzzfeed listicle.  It's not something to be proud of.  And Ace's long-form posts are some of the best stuff on the Web.

Posted by: Alex at August 30, 2013 03:10 PM (/yzYn)

334 >>>He has been all over the place spiritually. He is a weird bird and very protective. Have a friend who played in The Time and also did solo work as a Prince protégé and even he doesn't really KNOW Prince.

Prince wouldn't be nearly as interesting as he is (and nearly as much of a musical genius/polymath either, I reckon) if wasn't such a weird dude.  Everything he did from Dirty Mind (which is STILL shockingly smutty even today, and it was released in 1980!) all the way to Sign O' The Times is godlike genius laced through with some of the downright filthiest sex-talk ever committed to tape.

The ending of "Let's Pretend We're Married" is an all-time classic.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 03:10 PM (n/+FT)

335

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:05 PM (/IWYB)

 

 

Hey, give me a break. I never say anything  about the gamey threads.

 

23 Skidoo!

Posted by: Meremortal at August 30, 2013 03:10 PM (1Y+hH)

336 Compare Marvin Gaye's After the Dance...

with "Robin Thicke's" Love After War.


It only close in the sense that ever 3rd RnB song sounds pretty much the same.

All genres entail reworking the same material over and over again. That's true of genre lit and genre music. Further pop music by definition, and in every sense of the word, is juvenile. Mostly written by 18 years to get the 16 yrs olds all hot and bothered. (this is not to imply that US pop music is any different than a significant chunk of 'pop' produced by other cultures at previous periods; all of the major works of kabuki were written by a few royal teenagers and it's quite apparent from reading plot summaries.)

If you were forced to cold-read lyrics to almost any pop song in the last 35 years you'd be forced to admit there's no 'there' there. It's empty.

This isn't a class argument or one in which I'm lobbying for some other genre/type of music. I'm not.

But I for one shall get my panties in a wad over something else if that's not too much to ask.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 30, 2013 03:10 PM (j149p)

337 #WinTheCulture

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 03:10 PM (/IWYB)

338
In any other field, inheriting something would be all about the rich getting richer, but somehow inheriting copyright is sacred.

Hell, most of these copyrights are pushed by the Disney corporation.

Corporation. Buying stock somehow entitles you to the fruits of a man dead for over half a century.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 08:07 PM (T0NGe)


--This came up recently with "Happy Birthday."

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 03:10 PM (bufJH)

339 Can I have the brunette for my survival shelter?

Posted by: Chelsea blaster at August 30, 2013 03:11 PM (NAU+F)

340 I love this song an unreasonable amount. I actually thought it was a joke song though, like LMFAO's Sexy And I Know It. When I saw the video for the third or fourth time (it took that long for me to notice the dudes) I thought "Well that would've worked better if he wasn't actually gorgeous". The video is total joke video, and Pharrell and TI look the part. Thicke is just too hot. He should've worn the BeetleJuice suit in the video.

Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Things at August 30, 2013 03:11 PM (GmTxn)

341 Perky-breasted brunettes are the Devil's Camaro.

Posted by: ChampionCapua at August 30, 2013 03:11 PM (KZi9D)

342 Is it the 5 year license or is it that they didn't get rights to play them on the new medium of DVD? Do rerun episodes that air still have the actual songs? Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 08:04 PM (LI48c) I remember reading 5 years and it sounded plausible to me at the time because WKRP was one of the rare shows that played current music, it was before the era of VHS and syndication wasn't a real money-maker

Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 03:12 PM (T0NGe)

343 AtC, may I provide you with some Gooey Butter Cake from St. Louis? Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 08:08 PM (dw9bg


Why, yes, yes you may.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 03:12 PM (Gk3SS)

344 Ace do you know the number one song on the Country charts?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at August 30, 2013 03:12 PM (j2X6g)

345 @340 Zeppelin were some of the biggest song thiefs ever.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 30, 2013 03:12 PM (hmUex)

346 >>>It only close in the sense that ever 3rd RnB song sounds pretty much the same.

well the next pair, Million Dollar Baby/Trouble Man, are even closer.

I kind of agree with you but there is no doubt he is MODELING songs on Gaye's, certainly.

The post was written in an arch, snarky way. I hope no one thinks I'm really terribly invested in any of the rape/racist theft/plagiarism allegations.

I just thought it was funny.

But I'm informed it wasn't because Pop Music is Bad.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 03:12 PM (/IWYB)

347 But if you are interested in "the songs that sound like other songs and are they actually the same" stuff there is a book you might like. Its called Sounds Like Teen Spirit: Stolen Melodies, Ripped-Off Riffs, and the Secret History of Rock and Roll Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 07:57 PM (LI48c) Book review! If Ace does that and then ties it into a movie review about the corruption of the music industry, the circle will be complete.

Posted by: LizLem, who owns a lawn and is not afraid to tell twentysomething hipsters to get off it at August 30, 2013 03:13 PM (8wqqE)

348 >>>he said,with his lips firmly fixed between a pair of ewok-cheeks

Oh spare me.  Ace ignores my posts 99% of the time precisely because everyone knows I'm such a lightning rod around here.  If I was really interested in being rewarded for "ass-kissing" I'd go somewhere else. (And this of course completely forgets how I was repeatedly calling him an intellectually dishonest hack during the primaries.)

I just tend to agree with him on this particular angle, is all.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 03:13 PM (n/+FT)

349 A while back Prince said he wasn't going to play his racier stuff anymore.  I saw him in concert in 2004.  I swear it sounded like he was playing three guitars at once.  He is a very gifted musician. 

Posted by: no good deed at August 30, 2013 03:13 PM (WmLrU)

350 Thicke is just too hot. **************** Jezzuz Jenny really? He looks like Simon Cowell--with contacts.

Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2013 03:13 PM (r2PLg)

351

325
Hell Conan actually has a bit like this


****

 


Conan?  The Barbarian?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 30, 2013 03:13 PM (mvenn)

352

Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 08:07 PM (T0NGe) 

 

Our intellectual property rights are totally screwy. Develop a life-saving drug and you get ten years of patent protection (which might even start tolling before you get the drug to market). Draw a cartoon rat and collect royalties in perpetuity.

Posted by: somebody else, not me at August 30, 2013 03:14 PM (29vnO)

353 #1 show in Country is Duck Dynasty. Win the culture!!

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at August 30, 2013 03:14 PM (j2X6g)

354 Holy shit, the Trouble man and Million Dollar Baby comparison is unreal. That's straight up thieving. Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief, all kill their inspiration, then sing about their grief.

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2013 03:14 PM (L9AnB)

355 OK. I listen to the vid. Total Curtis Mayfield rip off. No wonder the are so many brothers bitching in DC.IN 

Posted by: redenzo at August 30, 2013 03:14 PM (vx61Q)

356 >>--It's hard to call Run-DMC's "Walk This Way" a rip-off considering the Aerosmith played the song with them. It was just a re-make. True, which is why I didn't say they ripped it off. But that was pretty much the genesis of rappers using rock rhythms and beats for their tunes. I probably should have been more clear in saying that Run DMC did it the right way. Thicke did it the wrong way. And anyone who has listened to Gaye heard the rhythm right out of the gate. I hope he has to pay.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2013 03:14 PM (g1DWB)

357 I think we'd have more luck winning over the idie rock/pop scene rather than mainstream music culture.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 30, 2013 03:14 PM (UOjzE)

358 Radio may be dead, but I prefer Pandora - even the wonky free Pandora - over iTunes playlists. I like to be surprised. So sue me. OTOH, for some reason the gnomes running my Pandora have decided to insert Motown into pretty much any playlist I select. Dean Martin? Motown Delbert McClinton? Motown Big Band? Motown It's weird as hell and it doesn't happen when my husband runs the same playlists on his phone.

Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2013 03:15 PM (5H6zj)

359

All musicians borrow from other musicians.  The great ones steal it outright.

Pretty sure that's paraphrased from a comic talking about comedians, but there's no copyrights in comedy.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 03:15 PM (XntP1)

360 317 Now, all due respect to Marvin's family, but "You didn't build that." Marvin did. He deserved every dime he got from it. Sure, his kids ought to be able to get something out of it. Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 08:07 PM (T0NGe) Yeah, modern copyright laws are insane. An artist should be able to make money from his creations as long as he's alive, and his children should be able to inherit the money he made. But beyond that, it's ridiculous.

Posted by: rickl at August 30, 2013 03:15 PM (sdi6R)

361 >Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:09 PM (/IWYB)


Do bloggers do this a lot? Chew their readers' asses for not showing proper deference?

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 03:15 PM (8sCoq)

362 (This is the current #1 song in the country and it has been for 10 weeks -- so sorry to BOTHER anyone with something that's actually going on in the world of pop music.) Actually, this is an interesting question: Is popular music popular (or relevant) today? It's not like a #1 song used to be in the day when you'd listen to a pop radio station and buy an occasional album or two. How much influence does this song really have? I really don't know.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 03:15 PM (T0NGe)

363 AtC, may I provide you with some Gooey Butter Cake from St. Louis? Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 08:08 PM (dw9bg Why, yes, yes you may. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 08:12 PM (Gk3SS) *Curtsies* Let me know if I need to visit the establishment that makes Gooey Butter Cake in 73 different flavors, because your satisfaction is my demand.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 03:15 PM (dw9bg)

364 >>> Have a friend who played in The Time No kidding? Tell him I still listen to Pandemonium once in a while.

Posted by: fluffy at August 30, 2013 03:15 PM (7y1wy)

365 Did he do this in Canada--because then it doesn't count.

Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2013 03:16 PM (r2PLg)

366 If people don't like the song, SAY THAT. How about people actually READ THE POST and comment on the ACTUAL POST rather than simply "reviewing the genre of current pop music" and then criticizing me for daring to write about it? We're reading posts now? When did that start? Was there a memo? Cause I totally didn't get the memo.

Posted by: Chelsea blaster at August 30, 2013 03:16 PM (NAU+F)

367 >>>Ace do you know the number one song on the Country charts?

nope.  And if you told me here's what I WOULDN'T do -- complain about it like I was a vampire and you had just thrown garlic sauce into my face.

Because, I am not as heavily invested as some of you in the proposition that My Specific Expression of Culture Must Prevail Over All Others.

Oh and by the way, until 24 hours ago I didn't know Robin Thicke's song was #1 either.  I began listening to this song yesterday.

I HEARD of it a month ago, when I wanted to hear Got to Give It Up (again, one of my favorites) and saw a news link noting the controversy. But I thought, "Robin Thicke? Alan Thicke's son?  HAH!  Who cares!  The song will never go anywhere!"

But whatever. 

Here's the thing that bothers me: It's like some people are OFFENDED to have information offered to them.

I do not mind if you tell me the number one country song.  I might even listen to it.

I promise I will not freak out and take it as an insult to my Patrimony.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 03:16 PM (/IWYB)

368

 

341 "He should've worn the BeetleJuice suit in the video."

 

The "Beetlejuice suit" was a variation on Steven Tyler's stagewear in the late 70s.  Nikki Sixx wore something very similar on the Theatre of Pain tour, a few years before the Beetlejuice movie came out.

Posted by: Alex at August 30, 2013 03:16 PM (/yzYn)

369 Jenny really? ---- Ha, yeah. Too cute (especially in that clip) for the jokiness to work. Don't worry about me too much, though...I saw him in the Beetle Juice suit and cannot unsee.

Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Things at August 30, 2013 03:17 PM (GmTxn)

370 *Curtsies* Let me know if I need to visit the establishment that makes Gooey Butter Cake in 73 different flavors, because your satisfaction is my demand. Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 08:15 PM (dw9bg)


That's just incredibly awesome.


You may have a nice comfy mattress pad and dream pillow for use in alextopia.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 03:17 PM (Gk3SS)

371 "this thread does not appeal to my cultural and generational bracket." Be careful, you are exposing thin skin. I doubt that anyone who regularly reads your blog and comments is in the least bit concerned about your tastes regarding 'current culture' music or sexual morals. Personally, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? What is amusing/sad is that anyone gives a moments notice to 'current culture'. We're 200+ trillion in the hole of unfunded liabilities and my grandchildren's children will be on the hook because they were not aborted in the 3rd trimester. By then, coat hangers will cost $10,000 because there will no longer be founderies in North America.

Posted by: angel with a sword at August 30, 2013 03:17 PM (hpgw1)

372 I enjoyed the post. Didn't watch the video. Don't fully understand the brouhaha here in the comments Could someone please tell me what 'Win the Culture' means? What does that look like? How do you think it should be done?

Posted by: Ragamuffin at August 30, 2013 03:17 PM (fzFF6)

373 The whole song is about an endless shameless pickup attempt. What better to compliment it than to have this guy promote his hastag every three seconds? Maybe it is that meta. It's hard to tell how tongue-in-cheek he's being with this.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 03:17 PM (T0NGe)

374 His fucking family fucking killed him for fuck's sake. They need to STFU about royalties.

Posted by: Bashir Al Assad at August 30, 2013 03:17 PM (srg5s)

375 Ok, so I haven't read the post yet, but the comments are awesome. And JeffB, if you sucked Ace's dick any harder, the poor Ewok would turn inside out. Now, off to read what Ace wrote.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 30, 2013 03:18 PM (GEICT)

376 Ace do you know the number one song on the Country charts?

It's that one about drinking because of a bad breakup and a pickup truck having mechanical issues?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 30, 2013 03:18 PM (X9Mnx)

377 I don't know if it will make you feel any better ace but your favorite movie, Prometheus, is on Cinemax.

Posted by: Adam at August 30, 2013 03:18 PM (Aif/5)

378 Frankly I'm more offended that the blonde was taking camera time away from the brunette.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 03:19 PM (XntP1)

379 >>>
Do bloggers do this a lot? Chew their readers' asses for not showing proper deference

yes let me tell you something: The whole "I know what I know and don't want to know what I don't want to know" thing is very unappealing.

But #WinTheCulture. Because that's how Culture is Won, apparently.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 03:19 PM (/IWYB)

380 I promise I will not freak out and take it as an insult to my Patrimony. Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:16 PM (/IWYB) ************ btw--there is actually some dude that thinks you're a chick--for realz. And a feminist--something like that.

Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2013 03:19 PM (r2PLg)

381 358 I think we'd have more luck winning over the idie rock/pop scene rather than mainstream music culture. Posted by: Serious Cat at August 30, 2013 08:14 PM (UOjzE) I think you're onto something there. Modern musicians who self-produce their own CDs (yes, I'm already dating myself) and sell them at their gigs are truer capitalists than those who sign with corporate labels.

Posted by: rickl at August 30, 2013 03:19 PM (sdi6R)

382 Ace is also spanking you to your faces, right here. That's not anatomically possible. Though you could use mirrors.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 03:19 PM (T0NGe)

383 283 It's hard ro be completely original in music.Even if you aren't trying everything you have heard is in your subconcious influencing your writing.I would imagine.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 08:03 PM (dBYCN)

 

Since that asshole Amishdude stole my linking of the Pachabel Rant, I shall instead link the Axis of Awesome's 4 Chord Song.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 03:19 PM (LI48c)

384 357 >>--It's hard to call Run-DMC's "Walk This Way" a rip-off considering the Aerosmith played the song with them. It was just a re-make.

True, which is why I didn't say they ripped it off. But that was pretty much the genesis of rappers using rock rhythms and beats for their tunes.

I probably should have been more clear in saying that Run DMC did it the right way. Thicke did it the wrong way. And anyone who has listened to Gaye heard the rhythm right out of the gate. I hope he has to pay.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2013 08:14 PM (g1DWB)


--It was more like starting a fad of rap-hard rock/metal collaborations, like the Anthrax/Public Enemy one and the Judgment Night soundtrack. (e.g.,http://youtu.be/gyTaVL07F34)

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 03:20 PM (bufJH)

385 I haven't even heard of this song or Thicke. Loved Marvin Gaye. Great singer. The tweets that were posted above were amusing. Marvin Gaye died broke because he snorted whatever profits he made up his nose. Major cokehead. Plus his Dad shot him. 

Posted by: puddleglum at August 30, 2013 03:20 PM (15w2J)

386 375 His fucking family fucking killed him for fuck's sake. They need to STFU about royalties. Posted by: Bashir Al Assad at August 30, 2013 08:17 PM (srg5s) Um no. Just his father.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 30, 2013 03:20 PM (Tnlh/)

387 Thicke looks like a stereotypical french policeman.... like the one from 'Allo, 'Allo....

Posted by: Phil at August 30, 2013 03:20 PM (QzdcC)

388 Prometheus was horrible and would have ruined the Alien franchise forever if Winona Ryder had not already done it.

Posted by: Chelsea blaster at August 30, 2013 03:20 PM (NAU+F)

389 I don't know if it will make you feel any better ace but your favorite movie, Prometheus, is on Cinemax. Posted by: Adam at August 30, 2013 08:18 PM (Aif/5


You know, Blurred Lines might explain how that script came about.

By blurred lines, I mean cocaine.   Lots and lots of cocaine.   In case I was too subtle.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 03:20 PM (Gk3SS)

390 Although I love to hear Juli Andrews yodeling, even on video. Posted by: Hurricane Chelsea at August 30, 2013 08:07 PM (pginn) Oh, god, me, too. Plus, the tits on those puppets were humongous.

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 30, 2013 03:20 PM (NHMrq)

391 >>>Frankly I'm more offended that the blonde was taking camera time away from the brunette.

she's... oKAY, but really, a missed opportunity.

the asian too.

Let's be real: There is only one important one on that stage.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 03:21 PM (/IWYB)

392 --This came up recently with "Happy Birthday." Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 08:10 PM (bufJH) Yes, some people in the movie industry trying to argue that Happy Birthday was actually written before the big copyright lengths started. Sorry, Hollywood, live by the MPAA, die by the RIAA.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 03:21 PM (T0NGe)

393 And JeffB, if you sucked Ace's dick any harder, the poor Ewok would turn inside out. ******* That's called-- The Black Hole Special--at least in Manitoba... (just puttin' some knowledge out there on all y'all.)

Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2013 03:21 PM (r2PLg)

394 No kidding? Tell him I still listen to Pandemonium once in a while.

Posted by: fluffy at August 30, 2013 08:15 PM (7y1wy)

_________________

In a band now called fdeluxe.  Same players as in The Family.  Prince would not let him use The Family as the bands name. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at August 30, 2013 03:22 PM (jucos)

395
The post was written in an arch, snarky way. I hope no one thinks I'm really terribly invested in any of the rape/racist theft/plagiarism allegations.

I just thought it was funny.

Posted by: ace


No, I got that regarding the rape/racist junk but you sure 'devoted yourself to the craft' with the plagiarism take.

... Shouldn't this recent phenom of 'X is just like rape' be read into the Dictionary of Dumbshit Things Our Betters Profess thing?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at August 30, 2013 03:22 PM (j149p)

396 Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:16 PM (/IWYB) You say that but you ragged on Duck Dynasty a short time back.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at August 30, 2013 03:22 PM (drXjQ)

397 Man, he's a goddamned DOG. Just saw that picture of him fingering that little blue minidress. (scrolled past it before) Wow. He must have some huevos grandes to go with his ostensibly large penis to get away with that shit.

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2013 03:22 PM (L9AnB)

398 What is amusing/sad is that anyone gives a moments notice to 'current culture'. We're 200+ trillion in the hole of unfunded liabilities and my grandchildren's children will be on the hook because they were not aborted in the 3rd trimester.

Go read what you just wrote.

Then slap yourself.  Hard.

You do know what the word "culture" means, right?  RIGHT???

If we can establish that you do, then perhaps we can explain why 'current culture' is pretty fucking relevant- including to the national debt and just about every other damned thing.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 30, 2013 03:23 PM (X9Mnx)

399 363 (This is the current #1 song in the country and it has been for 10 weeks -- so sorry to BOTHER anyone with something that's actually going on in the world of pop music.)

Actually, this is an interesting question: Is popular music popular (or relevant) today?

It's not like a #1 song used to be in the day when you'd listen to a pop radio station and buy an occasional album or two. How much influence does this song really have? I really don't know.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 08:15 PM (T0NGe)


--Well, with social media the hype for a song is faster, but overall I think the financial lucrativeness is not there like it was before, which is why so many acts have to tour almost endlessly.  Hell, if 3D TV gets good and cheap enough, some might be able to tour "virtually" and cut down on road time.

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 03:23 PM (bufJH)

400 When I started reading the smart military blog many moons ago there were as many comedy/cultural posts as there were political posts. The ratio has changed to almost all political posts and the tone is increasingly angry. The commenters have changed to mirror the change in the posts. Just an observation.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2013 03:23 PM (g1DWB)

401 Has a rap/hip hop/whatever folks ever try to sample Kansas? I'm asking because I was listening to Kansas on the way into work tonight (Leftoverture). That would be amusing. I could see Weird Al Yankovich doing it.

Posted by: puddleglum at August 30, 2013 03:23 PM (15w2J)

402 333 I'll never understand people's urge to brag about having too short an attention span to read something longer than a Buzzfeed listicle. It's not something to be proud of. And Ace's long-form posts are some of the best stuff on the Web. Posted by: Alex at August 30, 2013 08:10 PM (/yzYn) Amen. I don't come here for simple opinion. I want the analysis that might hopefully make me see a new perspective on whatever the subject is. For example, I'm a huge film nerd. There are tons of great sites for news, but I tend to ignore most of the reviews because they rarely say anything. The one I can enjoy is Red Letter Media because it is not simply whether a film is good or bad, but WHY the film works or doesn't. I've suggested it before and still think that Ace should start a separate culture blog so that he can write on music, film and television without all the bellyaching.

Posted by: Synnerman at August 30, 2013 03:23 PM (0Bdlg)

403 Didn't Patrice Oneil (sp) do a whole thing about "stealing songs" on the Opie and Anthony Show, as a guest host years ago?  He played ten tunes and went off on all of them.

...they were all by black artists.

--none had been 'licensed', 'cleared' or otherwise.

Posted by: Slapweasel at August 30, 2013 03:24 PM (lq3Ak)

404 >>>You say that but you ragged on Duck Dynasty a short time back.

ragged on it?

I offered the controversial proposition that people who were pinning their hopes on a hunting reality show to #WinTheCulture for them were perhaps a bit... let's say optimistic.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 03:24 PM (/IWYB)

405 Conan? The Barbarian?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 30, 2013 08:13 PM (mvenn)

 

No.  Conan. The O'Brien.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 03:24 PM (LI48c)

406 Folks, please calm down! There's plenty of butthurt to go around for everybody!

Posted by: Interwebz Store Clerk at August 30, 2013 03:24 PM (Dwehj)

407 Meh,this will blow over after the long weekend.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 03:25 PM (dBYCN)

408 Talk about Blurred Lines, The Country and Pop charts have been merging. 

Posted by: no good deed at August 30, 2013 03:25 PM (WmLrU)

409 You may have a nice comfy mattress pad and dream pillow for use in alextopia. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 08:17 PM (Gk3SS) Having met AtC, those who experience her online presence cannot fathom her personal glory. (Seriously, she rocks. As an attendee of the NoVaMoMee, along with the greatness of AtC is MWR, LadyS, MWR, and spypeach (apologies if I forgot others.)

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 03:25 PM (dw9bg)

410 OK, I'll admit it.  I did a spit-take at 3:14 in that video, and spent the rest of it nearly laughing my ass off.

Posted by: VekTor at August 30, 2013 03:25 PM (cF7T6)

411 Honestly, I've always thought this tune had more of a Prince vibe to it than anything. I guess I hear the Got to Give It Up resemblance, but I just don't think it's that strong. /Hatin' on the brothers and stickin' up for Whitey. Or Something.

Posted by: Andy at August 30, 2013 03:25 PM (li+aS)

412 >>>When I started reading the smart military blog many moons ago there were as many comedy/cultural posts as there were political posts. The ratio has changed to almost all political posts and the tone is increasingly angry. The commenters have changed to mirror the change in the posts.

no there was never anything like parity.

but yes it's harder to write about anything other than Obama Sucks when there's a neverending Greek Chorus demanding nothing but Obama Sucks posts.

#WinTheCulture


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 03:25 PM (/IWYB)

413 bitter resentment is such a charming attribute.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 07:32 PM (/IWYB)



that wasn't bitter, man.  It was funny. 



You write very well--even about sh*t--but it's still sh*t.  I understand that it's popular, but fifty years ago the Numbah One song was, "How Much is That Doggie in the Window".



Tolstoy could have written about that, and.............meh

Posted by: Pepe Loco at August 30, 2013 03:25 PM (omBWL)

414 There's plenty of butthurt to go around for everybody! No there isn't! Didn't you see the little STOP sign on the redhead's ass in the video? Exit only, chumps.

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2013 03:25 PM (L9AnB)

415 When I started reading the smart military blog many moons ago there were as many comedy/cultural posts as there were political posts. The ratio has changed to almost all political posts and the tone is increasingly angry. The commenters have changed to mirror the change in the posts.

SCREW YOU ITS ALL YOUR FAULT FOR FORCING ROMNEY ON US RINO!!!11!!!

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 30, 2013 03:26 PM (X9Mnx)

416 Prometheus was horrible ---------- And that's why I liked it. It is too funny.

Posted by: Adam at August 30, 2013 03:26 PM (Aif/5)

417

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at August 30, 2013 08:22 PM (drXjQ)

 

Shouldn't you be off denying the Holocaust somewhere?  Oh I'm sorry I meant questioning the total number of Jews killed by the Holocaust.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 03:26 PM (LI48c)

418 And MWR deserves to be mentioned twice.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 03:26 PM (dw9bg)

419 404 He was a funny guy.Died way too young.RIP Patrice

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 03:26 PM (dBYCN)

420 The whole song is about an endless shameless pickup attempt. What better to compliment it than to have this guy promote his hastag every three seconds? Maybe it is that meta. It's hard to tell how tongue-in-cheek he's being with this. Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 08:17 PM (T0NGe) If Ace did a version of this song/video it'd have the hashtag #P A N C A K E S every three seconds.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 30, 2013 03:26 PM (UOjzE)

421 >>> It's that one about drinking because of a bad breakup and a pickup truck having mechanical issues? Yes. Yes, it is.

Posted by: fluffy was drunk the day his Mom got out of prison at August 30, 2013 03:27 PM (7y1wy)

422 Posted by: Alex at August 30, 2013 08:10 PM (/yzYn) Hey, chump, did I say I didn't read it? Did I say it wasn't good? Did I "brag"? Drop dead and bite me. In that order.

Posted by: Hurricane Chelsea at August 30, 2013 03:27 PM (pginn)

423 378 I don't know if it will make you feel any better ace but your favorite movie, Prometheus, is on Cinemax. Posted by: Adam at August 30, 2013 08:18 PM (Aif/5) Jeez, I watched that movie about four times to see if there is anything redeeming about that muddled mess, and the only thing I came away with is that I want to kick in the teeth of that annoying woman that plays "Dr. Elizabeth Shaw"

Posted by: Ma Bell at August 30, 2013 03:28 PM (RLdcX)

424 Just arrived back from dinner from our favorite bar, where we ran into a Swedish retiree friend of husband's.


All was going well, especially when the Swede asked the bartender to "get that guy off the screen" (TFG's face was on one of the several TV screens.

Then, as we were getting ready to leave, I asked him about the Muslim shit going down in Sweden (he had just returned) and he swore there was no such thing.  Then he came down on the US "military industrial complex" and I was off to the ladies room and out and done.

Fucking fuck.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2013 03:28 PM (lVPtV)

425 Since people are talking about Prince I thought I'd take this moment to p point out that "Raspberry Beret" is one of the best songs of 1980s.

Posted by: Jeff B. at August 30, 2013 03:28 PM (8lbgd)

426 What is amusing/sad is that anyone gives a moments notice to 'current culture'. Not at all. That's how we got here. That's how we get LIVs. More importantly, it's how we got our current LIVs, who are proud of their ignorance.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 03:28 PM (T0NGe)

427 >>>, I got that regarding the rape/racist junk but you sure 'devoted yourself to the craft' with the plagiarism take.

well it does occur to me that the law of infringement, in order to make it easy and "objective" to determine, apparently just focuses almost exclusively on melody, which in some cases is not really the most important part of the song.

Now, understand, I do realize the need for a uniform, objective sort of standard.

But that standard might occasionally result in nonsense decisions.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 03:28 PM (/IWYB)

428 (Seriously, she rocks. As an attendee of the NoVaMoMee, along with the greatness of AtC is MWR, LadyS, MWR, and spypeach (apologies if I forgot others.) ^^^^This

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 30, 2013 03:28 PM (2p0oM)

429

I'd imagine every guy on that soundstage could get Grip credits for that shoot.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 03:28 PM (XntP1)

430 Someone say lines???

Posted by: SCOMFCiC at August 30, 2013 03:28 PM (nm+kb)

431 Hey whatever happened to that Girls show on HBO?

Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2013 03:28 PM (r2PLg)

432 >>no there was never anything like parity. Maybe not. My observation wasn't an exact science and I do like politics. But look at your top posts in the sidebar. How many are political analysis and how many are comedy. Hey, you're a smart dude. Me too. But your a funny bastard and I'm not. That's mainly why I read this blog. I like the funny.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2013 03:29 PM (g1DWB)

433 It's that one about drinking because of a bad breakup and a pickup truck having mechanical issues? The World's Greatest Country Song, by David Alan Coe??? http://www.7ou+ube.com/watch?v=vAOVRkSCWmg 7=y, +=t

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2013 03:29 PM (L9AnB)

434 377 Ace do you know the number one song on the Country charts?

It's that one about drinking because of a bad breakup and a pickup truck having mechanical issues?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 30, 2013 08:18 PM (X9Mnx)

 

Yeah but which one?  The last place I was working at only had the country station come in very well so that's what was on.  There were definitely 2 songs about trucks, and maybe even a third one.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 03:29 PM (LI48c)

435 In my neighborhood, I'm starting to see girls, during the day, wearing those mini dresses. You know the ones that just barely cover their crotch. Any tilting at the slightest degree and you see their panties. Seems a bit too much.

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 30, 2013 03:29 PM (NHMrq)

436 402 Has a rap/hip hop/whatever folks ever try to sample Kansas? I'm asking because I was listening to Kansas on the way into work tonight (Leftoverture). That would be amusing. I could see Weird Al Yankovich doing it.

Posted by: puddleglum at August 30, 2013 08:23 PM (15w2J)


--There was some Janet Jackson song that sampled an America song.  Can't recall the name of either one.

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 03:29 PM (bufJH)

437 Posted by: no good deed at August 30, 2013 08:25 PM (WmLrU)

It's a vicious cycle in Nashville.  Country gets popular, the labels send in their people from NYC and LA, who turn it into pop.  It goes into the tank, the NYC/LA label people leave, and the Nashville people start producing good country music again.  Which gets popular, and the labels again assume they know more than those hillbillies in Nashville, and send in the NYC/LA guys back to fuck it all up.

Posted by: Country Singer at August 30, 2013 03:30 PM (NLfPJ)

438 *throwing the flag* One guy's Duck Dynasty=You HAVE to watch Girls on HBO theory.

Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2013 03:30 PM (r2PLg)

439 Fun little factoid: Alan Thicke's mom is singer/soap opera actress, Gloria Loring who had a number one hit herself: "Friends and Lovers", a achmaltzy duet with Carl Anderson (a black dude). She played Liz on Days of Our Lives (nickname there, "Blondie").

Posted by: runningrn at August 30, 2013 03:30 PM (PLOz8)

440 Since people are talking about Prince I thought I'd take this moment to p point out that "Raspberry Beret" is one of the best songs of 1980s. I only buy Prince albums in a second-hand store.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 30, 2013 03:30 PM (CeNUw)

441

"Raspberry Beret" is one of the best songs of 1980s.

 

I can't believe you have a girlfriend.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 03:30 PM (XntP1)

442 432 Hey whatever happened to that Girls show on HBO? --------- Season 3 coming soon.

Posted by: Lena at August 30, 2013 03:30 PM (Aif/5)

443 After everything I've read about Prometheus I've decided not toever watch it.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 03:30 PM (dBYCN)

444 Pop, pop goes the weasel, the weasel.
Pop goes the weasel, cause the weasel goes pop!

Posted by: Fritz at August 30, 2013 03:30 PM (KIHQS)

445 >yes let me tell you something: The whole "I know what I know and don't want to know what I don't want to know" thing is very unappealing.

But #WinTheCulture. Because that's how Culture is Won, apparently.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:19 PM (/IWYB)



If you're telling me that is is important I know Robin Thicke has the #1 pop song, I disagree. But I'm going to scroll back a bit and see if I 'dissed' your post or expressed any displeasure with your choice of sunbject material. BRB...


wow.. if you look at my comment #120 you'll see I advised you to 'do what you want'. I am so busted.

-- this is like that thread a few weeks ago that got out of hand with the 'facial' comments. I'm sure you remember it. I would tell you now what I said then- your commenters are, on occasion, an unruly bunch. This hasn't been something you've actively and regularly discouraged. Not everything you write will be received in a way pleasing to you. But you knew that going in, right? Tell me you knew that, going in.


By the way I enjoy the blog very much. I get at least one much-needed laugh every day.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 03:30 PM (8sCoq)

446 Since that asshole Amishdude stole my linking of the Pachabel Rant, I shall instead link the Axis of Awesome's 4 Chord Song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 08:19 PM (LI48c) I posted that first. You owe me one hundred thousand Acebucks.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 03:31 PM (T0NGe)

447 no there was never anything like parity.

but yes it's harder to write about anything other than Obama Sucks when there's a neverending Greek Chorus demanding nothing but Obama Sucks posts.

#WinTheCulture



Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:25 PM (/IWYB)


*raises hand meekly*

I would like more humor stuff.   One of the very best things ever written here is the Skankathon.   There have been times when I've been in a very dark place and about the only thing that makes me smile is reading that.  By the end I'm laughing so hard that the world seems not so horrid.


But here's the thing about the Skankathon.   There's a very sharp and brutal point under the hilarity.   The light and funny pieces?   Usually have a bite to them.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 03:31 PM (Gk3SS)

448 444 After everything I've read about Prometheus I've decided not toever watch it. Read the script online. It's easier.

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2013 03:31 PM (L9AnB)

449 Re my #382: 10,000 Maniacs recently released a new album, "Music from the Motion Picture" which crowdsourced the funding from their fans through PledgeMusic. They offered a variety of perks for different pledge levels. For $10, you could download all the new songs. For $15 you got the CD, which is about the same you would pay if you bought it in a store. For $25, it was autographed. For $200, you got your image in their animated video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvf1MoVWsLQ (I was happy with the autographed CD.)

Posted by: rickl at August 30, 2013 03:31 PM (sdi6R)

450 Because I'm on a roll: AtC: She rocks. That is all. MWR: You haven't lived until you've heard her speak aloud read a post she wrote. Tall. Nearsider was devoted. Spypeach: Lovely. Mr. Spypeach is a lucky guy. LadyS: A lady in every sense of the word. Mrs. Bannion: Bannion married into the stratosphere.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 03:31 PM (dw9bg)

451 Perky-breasted brunettes are the Devil's Camaro. Posted by: ChampionCapua at August 30, 2013 08:11 PM
--------------
...but it's a BITCHIN' Camaro!!!1!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v3CzvQ9e_w

Posted by: Chyrstal Shit at August 30, 2013 03:31 PM (Sx5BA)

452 Is Jones going to spend time in the barrel?

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 03:31 PM (n/+FT)

453 Funny I don't hear a rap breakdown in got to give it up. Also there are no discernible titites in the Gaye song.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 30, 2013 03:31 PM (hmUex)

454 >>> The whole "I know what I know and don't want to know what I don't want to know" thing is very unappealing. I may have missed it, but where in the comments did someone say something like that?

Posted by: fluffy was drunk the day his Mom got out of prison at August 30, 2013 03:31 PM (7y1wy)

455 432 Hey whatever happened to that Girls show on HBO?

Posted by: tasker

The Red Wedding treatment I hope.

Posted by: puddleglum at August 30, 2013 03:31 PM (15w2J)

456 Answer: no!  He closed tags!

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 03:31 PM (n/+FT)

457

I actually am thinking of going to the liquor store and getting some liquor.  Anybody else want?  Going to jump in the pick up and slap in my favorite Slim Whitman 8 track.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at August 30, 2013 03:32 PM (jucos)

458 well it does occur to me that the law of infringement, in order to make it easy and "objective" to determine, apparently just focuses almost exclusively on melody, which in some cases is not really the most important part of the song.

Now, understand, I do realize the need for a uniform, objective sort of standard.

But that standard might occasionally result in nonsense decisions.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:28 PM (/IWYB)

 

Is "Ice Ice Baby" taking from the melody or the bass line?  Didn't he have to end up paying for that?  I thought it was the bass line.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 03:32 PM (LI48c)

459 NSFW are no fun when stuck at work.

Posted by: puddleglum at August 30, 2013 03:32 PM (15w2J)

460 Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 30, 2013 08:29 PM (NHMrq)

You apparently weren't around during the '60's and especially in Hollywood.

Let's just say that the mini's ended at the Y.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 30, 2013 03:32 PM (28TG+)

461 Does anyone know anything about Mint Press News?

zerohedge links a report by them that lays out the case that the war in Syria is less a proxy war between the US and Iran, than between the Saudis and Russia.

And some of the chemical weapons were supplied to the rebels by the Saudis.

They've apparently made an implicit threat against the winter Olympics, too.

That may or may not all be bunk, I don't know. I also found it interesting that they identified prince Bandar as the head of Saudi intelligence, given that he was always the got to guy on MSNBC for  all things ME, back when I watched them.

Posted by: Methos at August 30, 2013 03:32 PM (hO9ad)

462 I can't get terribly worked up over most Top 40 music nowadays.  Football will be the side of culture that obsesses me for the next six months.

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 03:32 PM (bufJH)

463 (yes, I'm already dating myself)
JeffB does that alot too especially since he learned how to play guitar.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at August 30, 2013 03:32 PM (uH46F)

464 I keep saying #WinTheCulture sarcastically now but have you guys really thought about what that means?

Do you really think it just means trying to "push" specific expressions of your culture (such as Duck Dynasty) out into the general culture?

Does mean anything beyond that?

Has this been considered, or is "We have to win the culture" just a bit of cliched received wisdom like "Penny wise pound foolish"?

I get the feeling the idea here is not to embrace a pluralistic culture, but to attempt to force one narrow (and I just mean narrow in reach) expression of culture on to the rest of the country while rejecting and disparaging all others.

Is there any plan for executing such a scheme?  Apart from just talking up the occasional low-budget cable show which gives some support to Conservative Cultural Values?

I don't think people have thought about this at all.  I think they mouth the words and do not pause to try to understand them.



Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 03:33 PM (/IWYB)

465

 

It's just nerves because WWIII is about to start.

 

 

 

No worries.   Don' worry bout a ting cause every leetle ting gonna be alright.

 

 

 

Don't Worry, Be Happy.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 30, 2013 03:33 PM (1Y+hH)

466 I am not surprised that yet another aspect of current popular media and culture absolutely fucking horrifies me. Again. Fuck.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at August 30, 2013 03:33 PM (o2E0P)

467 How but how did the Beach Boys get away with Surfin' USA against Chuck Berry"s Sweet Little Sixteen? Almost note for note.

Another rip off of the Black man from the Lilly whites.

Posted by: flashbazzbo, s.e. at August 30, 2013 03:34 PM (2yZsg)

468 A dark, old, joke for the young ones here.
What did Marvin Gaye's father say to him before he shot him?
'This is the last 45 you're gonna hear...'

Of course..., if you're too young to remember Marvin Gaye, you probably don't get the '45' thing either.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 30, 2013 03:34 PM (aDwsi)

469

Hahahaha, that Butthead guy doing the Beck show was all about the DD show this morning. Unbelievable.  I'm pretty sure he was serious about the cultural values DD promotes.

I don't do reality shows, I dig my own reality. Sorry about the rest of the escape artists

Posted by: Bashir Al Assad at August 30, 2013 03:35 PM (srg5s)

470 I remember when I used to be able to turn on the radio, or whatever it's called now, and actually understand the lyrics and sing along.

Now get the fuck off my lawn.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2013 03:35 PM (lVPtV)

471 You know, my dad who really doesn't give a rat's ass about pop culture, would watch the entertainment wrap up shows, stuff like The Soup, and the E! channel before he retired.  He did it so he could engage with all of the younger guys with something other than work.  He actually told me this.  I would also come home and catch him watching The Grind on MTV back in the day, but I don't think that had anything to do with work. 

Posted by: no good deed at August 30, 2013 03:35 PM (WmLrU)

472 >Answer: no! He closed tags!


did I? In all the excitement I kinda lost track myself

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 03:35 PM (8sCoq)

473 >>I would like more humor stuff. One of the very best things ever written here is the Skankathon. There have been times when I've been in a very dark place and about the only thing that makes me smile is reading that. By the end I'm laughing so hard that the world seems not so horrid. I reread that thing every so often when I need a good laugh. One of the funnier things I've ever read. My point was that there a shitload of funny bastards back during those days in the comments, actual conservative funny people. They exist. You are what you eat.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2013 03:35 PM (g1DWB)

474 Sobering up.

Posted by: fluffy at August 30, 2013 03:35 PM (7y1wy)

475 I like How Much Is The Doggie In the Window. My mom use to sing it to me. Now, I sing it to my dog. That and Sinatra. He really likes Luck Be a Lady Tonight.

Posted by: Victor/Victoria at August 30, 2013 03:35 PM (NHMrq)

476 As mentioned before, I have the 50s on 5 and 60s on 6 on my XM presets. I find the "Sweet 16" songs creepy.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 03:36 PM (dw9bg)

477 The only exposure to current cultural type stuff I get is from my 10yr and 13yr old. And a few places on the web, other than that, nothing. I don't like teevee, I don't go to movies, and the last concert I saw was Tim McGraw at the rodeo.

Posted by: Joethefatman (@joethefatman1) at August 30, 2013 03:36 PM (MnSla)

478 Ah yes---   pre-invasion jitters

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 03:36 PM (8sCoq)

479 >>>Hey, you're a smart dude. Me too. But your a funny bastard and I'm not. That's mainly why I read this blog. I like the funny.

Yeah, I definitely remember the "funny" being far more prevalent once upon a time.  Now in part that's because we aren't living in funny times...been a rough few years for the right. 

But seriously, I would love Ace to spend twice (maybe three times) as much time on pop culture stuff as he currently does.  It's actually a huge strength of his.  I think about the greatest moments on AoSHQ and what comes to mind aren't anti-Obama rants but rather the Paul Anka Integrity Kick, the Original Flamewar Thread, Jackie Massey Paisley-Passey, and this post.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 03:36 PM (n/+FT)

480 Don't Worry, Be Happy.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 30, 2013 08:33 PM (1Y+hH)

Ripping off my shit?!?! Oh, that's gonna cost you royalties, asshole!

Posted by: Bobby McFerrin at August 30, 2013 03:36 PM (nm+kb)

481 ...backs away from thread slowly...

Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2013 03:36 PM (5H6zj)

482 Culture warriors have too much free time. Get a second job and establish your own culture.

Posted by: Bashir Al Assad at August 30, 2013 03:36 PM (srg5s)

483 Mrs. Bannion: Bannion married into the stratosphere. Troposphere, actually But, point taken.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 30, 2013 03:37 PM (2p0oM)

484 Well, with social media the hype for a song is faster, but overall I think the financial lucrativeness is not there like it was before, which is why so many acts have to tour almost endlessly. Even in the old days, the record label kept so much that you couldn't make money without touring. It's only when you could make a Greatest Hits album and were not making good new stuff (I'm looking at you, Metallica) that the royalties were how you lived.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 03:37 PM (T0NGe)

485 >I don't like teevee, I don't go to movies, and the last concert I saw was Tim McGraw at the rodeo.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at August 30, 2013 08:36 PM (MnSla)



yes--- but does that make you a bad person?


No. It does not.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 03:37 PM (8sCoq)

486 Ace do you know the number one song on the Country charts?

Probably some paint-by-numbers Taylor Swift-inspired dreck. The only thing more burned-out right now than pop is country.

Posted by: TRUE CONSERVATIVE at August 30, 2013 03:37 PM (RBQss)

487 I don't think people have thought about this at all. I think they mouth the words and do not pause to try to understand them. Posted by: ace We can't "Win" the culture. It's lost from us, forever. We can enjoy the tits as we slide down into barbarity, though.

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2013 03:37 PM (L9AnB)

488 One of the funniest things I've ever read here was a description of giant spiders in Australia.

I laughed so hard over the comments I nearly peed myself.

I sheepishly commented shortly after (and was immediately deemed a troll).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2013 03:38 PM (lVPtV)

489 Troposphere, actually But, point taken. Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 30, 2013 08:37 PM (2p0oM) You admit you're a lucky guy.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 03:38 PM (dw9bg)

490 "But here's the thing about the Skankathon. There's a very sharp and brutal point under the hilarity. The light and funny pieces? Usually have a bite to them." The Governor Mark Sanford "hiking on The Appalachian Trail" post made me almost pee my pants; I was laughing so hard!

Posted by: runningrn at August 30, 2013 03:38 PM (PLOz8)

491 >>>I can't believe you have a girlfriend.

It's her all-time favorite Prince song as well, which almost certainly played a small role in making it mine. 

One nice thing about her: she likes the filthy Prince songs too (like "Irresistible Bitch" and "Erotic City"..."Head" is a bit much however), not just the more accessible radio hits.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 03:38 PM (n/+FT)

492 Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:33 PM (/IWYB)

Trying to "win" the culture will inevitably result in failure.

Either conservativism/constitutionalism/patriotism/capitalism adherents have a culture that is or becomes enviable and imitated by others or not.

No one sets out to Win the Culture.

It just happens. That's why attempts to do so haven't.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 30, 2013 03:38 PM (28TG+)

493 >>>If you're telling me that is is important I know Robin Thicke has the #1 pop song, I disagree.

that's not what I'm saying.

Here's what I'm saying:

It's fuckheaded to just say "I don't want to know that."

I'm not saying you need to know it, or should be excited to know it.

But this rejectivist attitude where, like liberals, some attempt to create an unbreachable bubble of likemindedness around themselves, is fuckheaded.

It's also nasty.

Becuase no one wants a facefull of fucking CRITICAL FUCKING ATTITUDE every five minutes.

And this is what conservative "culture" largely is: Merely GROUSING about every goddamn thing.

Even going so far as to say, "I didn't like this POST, which was an independent effort apart from the SUBJECT being discussed, because I categorically reject the SUBJECT itself as something I affirmatively choose to remain ignorant of."

We laugh when reporters go out of their way to NOT KNOW about guns.

Do you think it's any more charming when conservatives put up the Holy Symbols to ward off new information like it's a covern of vampires?

It's not.

What is the HARM of this post that requires people to weigh in and say, literally, YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE WRITTEN THIS POST?

Seriously?

I HAVE FUCKING CONSERVATIVELY-CORRECT CENSORS NOW?





Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 03:39 PM (/IWYB)

494

Posted by: Bobby McFerrin at August 30, 2013 08:36 PM (nm+kb)

 

 

Shaddup. Yer dead.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 30, 2013 03:39 PM (1Y+hH)

495 Talk about Blurred Lines, The Country and Pop charts have been merging. Old News

Posted by: The Eagles' "Country Rock" at August 30, 2013 03:39 PM (T0NGe)

496 Yeah, I figure a lot of people had the day off (or are retired or whatever) and got an early drunk on for the weekend. So BITCH BITCH BITCH. Lemme know if y'all plan to spend the weekend that way.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 30, 2013 03:39 PM (NLqIR)

497 Posted by: Methos at August 30, 2013 08:32 PM (hO9ad)

Saw that. Mint Press News is at least as credible as the Obama admin.

Posted by: slatz at August 30, 2013 03:39 PM (yuZy4)

498 You admit you're a lucky guy. I do. I do indeed. But she's a lucky gal. Because I am hung like a bull.....hamster

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 30, 2013 03:39 PM (2p0oM)

499 Okay-- this stuff comes from some of the East Coast-ish commenters but it goes something like-- you HAVE to read--Slate--or watch MSNBC--or-- Kurt Schlicter with the HBO Girls argument--who lives in Cali-- as if *Republicans* embarrass you because they are too square and not hip; or something. Guess what? Why the hell should Republicans give their dime and time to places that don't RESPECT THEM? That are so disrespectful to The Truth even? That's where the miscommunication is--as everyone rants past each other. Some people come preloaded with arguments and they just look for someone to misunderstand so they can unload their rant.

Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2013 03:39 PM (r2PLg)

500 I would love Ace to spend twice (maybe three times) as much time on pop culture stuff

Oh, boy.

Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at August 30, 2013 03:39 PM (Dwehj)

501 As mentioned before, I have the 50s on 5 and 60s on 6 on my XM presets. I find the "Sweet 16" songs creepy. Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 08:36 PM (dw9bg)


Who was it that Adam Carolla had the hilariously epic sooooo half the songs of the '70s were about statutory rape huh discussion  with?


Shit.   Now I have Winger stuck in my head.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 03:40 PM (Gk3SS)

502

That may or may not all be bunk, I don't know. I also found it interesting that they identified prince Bandar as the head of Saudi intelligence, given that he was always the got to guy on MSNBC for all things ME, back when I watched them.

-------------

 

There have been a couple of governmental reshufflings over the last several years in the Saudi government.  And iirc, in the past Bandar was the guy that the Saudis used whenever they needed to make a positive public statement to the US.  So yes, you probably did see him on MSNBC.  And he might very well now be head of Saudi intelligence.

 

Posted by: junior at August 30, 2013 03:41 PM (UWFpX)

503 Bandar has been the chief of General Intelligence for a year now, around the times claimed he had been assasinated, according to Iranian sources, which this story smells like,

I hadn't seen the video before, which could do with out the promo, but then would run afoul of the ratings board, but this culture in part, is why the yutes are looking at SMOD, like a big shiny thing in the sky.

Posted by: Raymond Luxury Yacht at August 30, 2013 03:41 PM (Jsiw/)

504 I HAVE FUCKING CONSERVATIVELY-CORRECT CENSORS NOW? Well, at least the purity brigade hasn't called you a RINO. Yet

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 30, 2013 03:41 PM (2p0oM)

505 Shit. Now I have Winger stuck in my head. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 08:40 PM (Gk3SS) *Shoves Gooey Butter Cake through the USB port*

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 03:41 PM (dw9bg)

506 ace, before you go too far down the road of castigating the whiners and griping for hours at everybody, let me just say . . . Isn't there anything more important to talk about?

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2013 03:41 PM (L9AnB)

507

Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at August 30, 2013 08:39 PM (Dwehj)

 

 

 

My first thought was, "Well, that would free up some time."

Posted by: Meremortal at August 30, 2013 03:41 PM (1Y+hH)

508 This is getting rather unseemly.

Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at August 30, 2013 03:41 PM (Dwehj)

509 There is only one type of Country worth listening to and that is outlaw.

Posted by: Bashir Al Assad at August 30, 2013 03:41 PM (srg5s)

510 >>>How but how did the Beach Boys get away with Surfin' USA against Chuck Berry"s Sweet Little Sixteen? Almost note for note.

They didn't!  Go check the official writing credits for that song now.  It's now "written by Chuck Berry."

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 03:41 PM (n/+FT)

511 I HAVE FUCKING CONSERVATIVELY-CORRECT CENSORS NOW?


U mad, bro?

Posted by: Methos at August 30, 2013 03:42 PM (hO9ad)

512 half the songs of the '70s were about statutory rape huh discussion with?

Gary Puckett and the Sex Offenders doesn't have quite the same ring to it.  (late 60s, I know)

Posted by: no good deed at August 30, 2013 03:42 PM (WmLrU)

513 I HAVE FUCKING CONSERVATIVELY-CORRECT CENSORS NOW? Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:39 PM (/IWYB) No, just people who bitch about everything. Who are everywhere. I mean, Christ, even this thread is ten times better than a YouTube comment section. Which is actually scary. Now you know why six people get shot in Chicago every weekend. Chicago = YouTube Comment Section

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 30, 2013 03:42 PM (NLqIR)

514 ya, win the culture. where have i heard that before. this statement has that fresh badger smell.

Posted by: crazy guy at August 30, 2013 03:43 PM (V+Pei)

515

We have both kinds of music here.

 

Country and Western.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 03:43 PM (LI48c)

516 I think a lot of RINOS have left. I know I saw an interesting argument start up about a subject _______________ and the crowd yelled-- BAN HIM! And it happened. I really wanted to SEE the answer--or a rational argument.

Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2013 03:43 PM (r2PLg)

517

    No culture war here, I like very little of current culture.Anyone is welcome to embrace it or not.

  Most of what I see disgusts me but I come from an antiquated version of popular culture.  So I pay no attention to what passes for culture today.

    If  that offends anybody, well, deal.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 30, 2013 03:43 PM (SAMxH)

518 *dips toes back in* ------ 465 I keep saying #WinTheCulture sarcastically now but have you guys really thought about what that means? Do you really think it just means trying to "push" specific expressions of your culture (such as Duck Dynasty) out into the general culture? ----- With all due respect, my first recollection of the Win the Culture thing was from Ben Howe as part of selling his video/media stuff or something. I didn't associate it with the commenters here. I get that you're irritated (although I don't really understand why you got so irritated so quickly based on the comments early in the thread), but I don't know that it's ever been a Thing amongst most of the commenters to try to Win the Culture. Right now most of us are pissed off that we can't even get the people we elected to hold Obama's feet to the fire or get this administration to follow the law. I enjoy the pop culture posts. This one wasn't up my alley, but as I mentioned I was expecting the comments to be mostly about boobehs. I have my own. I don't need to comment about them. Anyway, I hope the temperature of this thread can cool down a bit. It's Friday. We should celebrate that!

Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2013 03:44 PM (5H6zj)

519

"Isn't there anything more important to talk about?"

 

 

Since when does that matter?

Posted by: Meremortal at August 30, 2013 03:44 PM (1Y+hH)

520 At least the purity brigade hasn't called you a RINO yet. --- Give them time. They're still trying to figure out how to contact the brunette and, um, convert her. Maybe give her a copy of Atlas Shrugged.

Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Things at August 30, 2013 03:44 PM (GmTxn)

521 "I never heard of 'He's So Fine'......"  - George Harrison

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 30, 2013 03:44 PM (aDwsi)

522

Haters gonna hate, because by the very definition of the term, it's all they can do.

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 03:44 PM (fRlGp)

523 I put < runs > in brackets and it disappeared

Posted by: imp at August 30, 2013 03:44 PM (L9AnB)

524 "Current culture music is pretty fucking relevant - including to the national debt and just about every other damned thing." ??? Current culture has not a clue about pretty fucking relevant including to the national debt and just about every other damned thing under the sun. Slap yourself silly. My eye is on the deep blue sea, not the shallow water. Been there and have the fucking Woodstock t-shirt. I became a responsible adult raising children and putting my shoulder to the grindstone 5 decades ago. 30 something teenagers need not apply. I have grandchildren entering adulthood who will one day produce great granchildren. I guard them with an eye on the cross hairs. Current culture revelant BS better not cross in front of me at 500 yards. I may be old but my eyes and my finger are well acquainted.

Posted by: angel with a sword at August 30, 2013 03:45 PM (hpgw1)

525 "Winning The Culture" sounds like "Capturing The Interest Of Low Information Voters".  What a waste of time.  We captured the interest of the White House when we elected state pols who, in turn,  passed Voter ID reform laws.  Boy howdy, Eric Holder and the DoJ gang were all in stitches when Texas and NC passed their versions.  The true "popular culture" in this country is right of center. Obama knows it.  2014 is gonna be a blow-out for centrist and conservative candidates.

Posted by: mrp at August 30, 2013 03:45 PM (HjPtV)

526 *Shoves Gooey Butter Cake through the USB port* Ummmm, apropos of nothing, go over to Society Fair tomorrow and get a slice of Olive Oil Cake. Holy crap was that thing ever good.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 30, 2013 03:45 PM (2p0oM)

527 >>>this stuff comes from some of the East Coast-ish commenters but it goes something like--

you HAVE to read--Slate--or watch MSNBC--or--


Which commenters have ever said that?  We make fun of Slate as an "amateur online webzine" and NOBODY thinks MSNBC is worthwhile.  The next time I see somebody, I dunno, pimping out "Morning Joe" around here (unless it's some newsworthy event or something, I dunno), it'll be the first. 

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 03:45 PM (n/+FT)

528


Shit. Now I have Winger stuck in my head.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 08:40 PM (Gk3SS)


Will you be my friend?

Posted by: Stewart Stevenson at August 30, 2013 03:45 PM (bufJH)

529 471 I remember when I used to be able to turn on the radio, or whatever it's called now, and actually understand the lyrics and sing along. Now get the fuck off my lawn. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2013 08:35 PM (lVPtV) When?

Posted by: Louie Louie at August 30, 2013 03:45 PM (T0NGe)

530 Well, at least the purity brigade hasn't called you a RINO. Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 30, 2013 08:41 PM (2p0oM) *Everyone* is the purity brigade, and they all call the other side the purity brigade. Conservatives want moderates to shut up, moderates want conservatives to shut up. No one is *not* the purity brigade.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 30, 2013 03:46 PM (NLqIR)

531 Well, I'm going to crawl in bed and read a book.  Ya'll have fun.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2013 03:46 PM (lVPtV)

532 "Isn't there anything more important to talk about?"


If there is something more important than discussing the revelation of one of the most perfect pairs of tits to ever grace the planet, I don't want to know what it is.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 03:46 PM (Gk3SS)

533

"Isn't there anything more important to talk about?"

 

 

Than that racktastic brunette?  No. 

 And I, for one, hope there never is.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 03:46 PM (XntP1)

534 Only one commenter commented that this post wasn't worth your time. One.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at August 30, 2013 03:46 PM (AiZkN)

535 ...half the songs of the '70s were about statutory rape...

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 08:40 PM (Gk3SS)


Exhibit A:  http://youtu.be/_qXsO-axQWM


Posted by: Country Singer at August 30, 2013 03:46 PM (NLfPJ)

536 If course, having seen World's End, there may be an ulterior motive for this video,

Posted by: Raymond Luxury Yacht at August 30, 2013 03:46 PM (Jsiw/)

537 I don't have much to say except that redhead/brunette is hot.

Posted by: DangerGirl, full of sweet rage at August 30, 2013 03:46 PM (GrtrJ)

538 Here's another thing-- if someone is swimming upstream against the crowd-- sometimes they will do it in a thrashier style. But they are always most interesting.

Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2013 03:47 PM (r2PLg)

539

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:39 PM (/IWYB)

 

I sure do hope that these are not the first stages of the Charles-Johnson-Syndrome.

Posted by: Granny Liberty at August 30, 2013 03:47 PM (lHJyk)

540 "No one sets out to Win the Culture.

It just happens. That's why attempts to do so haven't.
"
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11)

HAH!  You need to look up Andrew Breitbart, my friend! 

With All Due Respect, Sir.

Posted by: Slapweasel at August 30, 2013 03:47 PM (lq3Ak)

541 We're still talking about this? *ducks and runs* Oh, new post at my place. How'd you like your door broken down and your kids hauled off because you homeschool?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 30, 2013 03:47 PM (GEICT)

542 "Isn't there anything more important to talk about?" Than that racktastic brunette? No. And I, for one, hope there never is. Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 08:46 PM (XntP1) *Looks at brunette self* Good night, all.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 03:47 PM (dw9bg)

543 No one is *not* the purity brigade. So we're a Möbius strip of stupid. No wonder we don't win elections.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 30, 2013 03:47 PM (2p0oM)

544 I'm only a 17 week old fetus and i <3 Robin Thicke!!!

Posted by: Mandatory Youtube Comment at August 30, 2013 03:48 PM (bufJH)

545 >What is the HARM of this post that requires people to weigh in and say, literally, YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE WRITTEN THIS POST?

Seriously?

I HAVE FUCKING CONSERVATIVELY-CORRECT CENSORS NOW?





Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:39 PM (/IWYB)


I think you're making way too much of this. I understand you put a lot of effort into creating the post and are justly proud of the result. If you're happy with it, and it expressed something you wanted to say, then be happy with the effort. So what if some people reacted negatively? Let it go. If they were talented bloggers they'd be off somewhere writing something pithy and incisive and posting it on their blogs. Be of good cheer. The sun WILL come up tomorrow.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 03:48 PM (8sCoq)

546 Zzzzzzzz.




(lol)
don't make me stop this fkn car

Posted by: willow at August 30, 2013 03:48 PM (nqBYe)

547 you know how people use pedometers to count the steps they take each day? Ace should have verbometer to count all the words he transmits over the web each day. Today might be a PR (personal record).

Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2013 03:48 PM (D2tAy)

548 Probably time for another introvert/extrovert thread.

Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2013 03:48 PM (5H6zj)

549

 

468 "How but how did the Beach Boys get away with Surfin' USA against Chuck Berry"s Sweet Little Sixteen? Almost note for note."

 

They didn't.  Berry's publisher sued them, and he got a co-writing credit (and a piece of the royalties) out of it.

Posted by: Alex at August 30, 2013 03:48 PM (/yzYn)

550 I liked the rap part. And the brunette.

Posted by: traye at August 30, 2013 03:49 PM (4SakS)

551 >>>I know I saw an interesting argument start up about a subject _______________

and the crowd yelled--

BAN HIM!

And it happened.

I really wanted to SEE the answer--or a rational argument.


Are you referring to here?  Somebody got banned here merely for expressing a different opinion than the rest?  And not for being a Known Troll?  That would be a first.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 03:49 PM (n/+FT)

552 Actually, this is an interesting question: Is popular music popular (or relevant) today? It's not like a #1 song used to be in the day when you'd listen to a pop radio station and buy an occasional album or two. How much influence does this song really have? I really don't know. Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 08:15 PM (T0NGe) At the risk of sounding old, I remember a time back in the 80's/90's when top 40 still included songs that my mom and dad liked. I had newer songs I listened to, that I was mortified if they liked, but I still liked the songs in major movies seen by everyone, and the like. Those days are long long gone, probably because everyone markets to the stupid tweeners nowadays. My parents would never ever listen to the top 40 now. Craig says it best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROJKEwYEx8Q I have a number of stations I listen to on the radio, I still love flipping stations, from top 40 to oldies. Blurred lines along with Get Lucky by Daft Punk have been the two songs of the summer on the opo stations that are both explicitly about gettin' some, but are both so catchy and fun sounding I didn't have to listen to the lyrics to enjoy. The VMA performance ruined Blurred Lines for me though; pedobears ugh. At least I still have Daft Punk, until pop culture pairs them with a slutty Selena Gomez mounting a giant balloon clown or something and finds a way to ruin THAT.

Posted by: LizLem, who owns a lawn and is not afraid to tell twentysomething hipsters to get off it at August 30, 2013 03:49 PM (8wqqE)

553 Love the blog Love the arguing Love the humor Ace seems most argumentative when his manic energy is waxing

Posted by: Eton Cox at August 30, 2013 03:49 PM (q177U)

554 alex's tea with a shot of sumthin, sumthin in it.

Posted by: willow at August 30, 2013 03:49 PM (nqBYe)

555 I sure do hope that these are not the first stages of Charles Johnson Syndrome. --- Wow. The HQ has an alternative strain of Godwin.

Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Things at August 30, 2013 03:50 PM (GmTxn)

556 So we're a Möbius strip of stupid. No wonder we don't win elections. Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 30, 2013 08:47 PM (2p0oM) BINGO! Have a cookie.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 30, 2013 03:50 PM (NLqIR)

557 I get the feeling the idea here is not to embrace a pluralistic culture, but to attempt to force one narrow (and I just mean narrow in reach) expression of culture on to the rest of the country while rejecting and disparaging all others. ... I don't think people have thought about this at all. I think they mouth the words and do not pause to try to understand them. Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:33 PM (/IWYB) Yes, it is a cliche. It is a rallying cry but I think most of us have no idea how to rally in that regard. To Win the Culture you seem to state means we need to embrace a pluralistic culture. Well...to me, yes and no. I'd prefer a live and let live attitude. I have my likes and dislikes--musically, media-wise etc. There's stuff in some music and books that give me the heebie jeebie. I don't touch it. You like it, have at it. I guess I default to Wesley's axiom "In essentials, unity. In all else, tolerance." Now he was talking about the church but it has wider applications. Are we talking embracing pluralistic culture to change it? Or to simply better allow discussion of other points? IE We need to embrace inner city culture so that we can impart the ideas of limited government. Or is this totally apolitical?

Posted by: Ragamuffin at August 30, 2013 03:50 PM (fzFF6)

558 >>>I sure do hope thatthese are not the first stages of the Charles-Johnson-Syndrome.

Jesus Christ.  Well it was only a matter of time before some idiot invoked the AoSHQ equivalent of Godwin's Law, I guess.  Figures that in this thread it would've been you.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 03:50 PM (n/+FT)

559 *Humming the theme song from Growing Pains* Show me that smile again...

Posted by: adams stabone porn at August 30, 2013 03:50 PM (gQKHE)

560 Cracka Canuk stole from one of the fathers of R&B... damn evil, white, devil, honky slave master takin' from all of us BROTHERS!!!  Next thing he be takin' from us is our dicks!!!

Posted by: Pimp Daddy Welfare at August 30, 2013 03:50 PM (Jls4P)

561 Goddammit, Jenny, you beat me to it.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 03:51 PM (n/+FT)

562 Current culture revelant BS better not cross in front of me at 500 yards. I may be old but my eyes and my finger are well acquainted. Posted by: angel with a sword at August 30, 2013 08:45 PM (hpgw1)


OMFG, quick, someone get the IP address, figure out where it is and call the cops because there's a hostage situation!


I mean, there must be, because obviously there's a commenter here with a gun being held to said person's head and the hostage taker forcing that person to read the post and then comment thereupon.


There is no possible other option.   I mean, it's not as if said person has agency and free will and may elect to ignore posts that are regarding such frivolous topics.  That's unpossible.

Oh.  I'm terribly sorry.   I didn't mean to get some currentish culture reference all over you there.   My most humble apologies.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 03:51 PM (Gk3SS)

563 BINGO! Have a cookie. Is it a black and white cookie? Look to the cookie, Mero. Look to the cookie!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 30, 2013 03:52 PM (2p0oM)

564 >> After everything I've read about Prometheus I've decided not toever watch it. I absolutely hated the movie, but you should see it for the visual effects alone. Just don't try to make it make sense. Because it doesn't.

Posted by: Andy at August 30, 2013 03:52 PM (li+aS)

565 >>> 535 Only one commenter commented that this post wasn't worth your time. One. I recall seeing that. The impression I got was that the commenter thought ace should be ( and could be ) striving to emulate Buckley, not TMZ.

Posted by: fluffy at August 30, 2013 03:52 PM (7y1wy)

566 I wish we'd go to war just to get this Miley Cyrus bullshit out of the "news".


Posted by: Dang at August 30, 2013 03:52 PM (Hx2XA)

567 In the meantime, we have men and women sitting off the coast of Syria waiting for President Mom Jeans to decide what the fuck he's going to do, or not do.

Prayers for our men and women in harm's way.

And fuck Robin Thicke and Miley Cyrus. 

That is all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2013 03:52 PM (lVPtV)

568 anyhoo hard to win the culture with the media and hollywood left in control .

but small gains are being made through internet

Posted by: willow at August 30, 2013 03:52 PM (nqBYe)

569 I sure do hope thatthese are not the first stages of the Charles-Johnson-Syndrome.

Posted by: Granny Liberty at August 30, 2013 08:47 PM (lHJyk)

 

I'm going to call this now.  Fuck off troll.  This is the first thread you've ever commented on and you've done nothing but bitch.

 

Get bent.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 03:53 PM (LI48c)

570 Oh. I'm terribly sorry. I didn't mean to get some currentish culture reference all over you there. My most humble apologies. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 08:51 PM (Gk3SS) Sorry ma'am, you just blew the SnarkOMeter apart. I'm gonna need you to dial it back a little.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 30, 2013 03:53 PM (GEICT)

571 >>>I get that you're irritated (although I don't really understand why you got so irritated so quickly based on the comments early in the thread), but I don't know that it's ever been a Thing amongst most of the commenters to try to Win the Culture. Right now most of us are pissed off that we can't even get the people we elected to hold Obama's feet to the fire or get this administration to follow the law.

I guess I'm going to say it.

When liberals accuse conservatives of being too proudly closed minded?

Here, I'm going to say something everyone is going to flip out about but everyone (including conservatives) know is true:

Yes, that's a true statement.

Conservatives, temperamently, are set to reject things too quickly.

Liberals are set to accept things too quickly.

Conservatives are not perfect beings anymore than liberals are the perfect beings liberals imagine they are.

I have a default setting myself of "Reject."

But can we maybe NOT exult in our Proud Rejectivism of everything?  Can we occasionally pause to CONSIDER the new without just rejecting it out of hand?

Just as much as we'd ask liberals to pause to CONSIDER preserving the old before discarding the new in favor of the bright shiny new thing?

Can we do a little more thinking and a little less kneejerk reacting?

This was a harmless post.  It was funny and informative.  It did in fact make people aware of the #1 song in the coutnry -- part of the Culture, you understand -- and ten weeks worth of controversy about it.


WHY DO I HAVE TO EVEN FUCKING JUSTIFY WRITING THIS?

WHY DO I HAVE TO *ARGUE* FOR MY FUCKING RIGHT TO WRITE IT?

I'm going over the bend here.

I'm at my last rope.

I'm not kidding.

I'm going to going quitso on everything.  All of conservtism.

I did not join the conservative movement to have my tastes and thoughts supervised by the Committe of the Conservative Whole anymore than I'd want that service performed by the Committee of the Leftist Whole.

I'm tired of this.

I'm so tired of this.

i'm going to put up a Duck Dynasty post.

Don't worry, I've contacted breitbart and on Sunday this post will be moved to that site.

No one has to worry about my dirtying their minds with Forbidden Knowledge about funny things.





Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 03:53 PM (/IWYB)

572 yes--- but does that make you a bad person?
No. It does not.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 08:37 PM (8sCoq)


While true that it doesn't make me a bad person, It does leave me out of being able to converse with the younger set. And that's bad. How am I supposed to convince or prove to them what a douche O is if I can't speak in a way they can understand? I can set forth facts until I'm blue in the face , but they'll tune that out faster than anything. So culturally speaking , that makes it hard to be effective and keeps the youngsters voting D.

Posted by: Joethefatman (@joethefatman1) at August 30, 2013 03:53 PM (MnSla)

573 Ace, that thing you do where you say At least he didn't do this thing. And then the next line is He did that thing! is so funny. It never gets old. The song is kinda catchy.

Posted by: L, elle at August 30, 2013 03:54 PM (0PiQ4)

574 Kid Rock won the culture. I showed you pussies and you cried like Joe Dirt.

Posted by: twoslaps at August 30, 2013 03:54 PM (nRgwi)

575 I absolutely hated the movie, but you should see it for the visual effects alone.

Just don't try to make it make sense. Because it doesn't.

Posted by: Andy at August 30, 2013 08:52 PM (li+aS)

My wife loved it.

I remind her of that every time I watch a SyFy film and she starts up.

"Sharknado has to be the most ridicu-"

"Prometheus"

"..."

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 03:54 PM (fRlGp)

576 Who has thinner skin? Obama or ace ?

Posted by: Javier Fiasco at August 30, 2013 03:54 PM (qQk+U)

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 30, 2013 03:55 PM (GEICT)

578 waiting for President Mom Jeans to decide what the fuck he's going to do, or not do. Alright already!! I bid three spades...

Posted by: Rear Admiral Obama at August 30, 2013 03:55 PM (FcR7P)

579 Iron Man 3? It made me sick of the RDJ Jr irreverant wisecracking shtick.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2013 03:55 PM (D2tAy)

580 >> After everything I've read about Prometheus I've decided not toever watch it.

I absolutely hated the movie, but you should see it for the visual effects alone.

Just don't try to make it make sense. Because it doesn't. Posted by: Andy


I liked it.  It could have been a lot better.  There are a couple of heavy nerd videos on Youtube explaining stuff.  There are a lot of clues and info on the fake Weyland web site.  I don't have time to hunt all that down so the nerds did it for me.

Posted by: Dang at August 30, 2013 03:55 PM (Hx2XA)

581 >>>Here's another thing--

if someone is swimming upstream against the crowd--

sometimes they will do it in a thrashier style.


I know this difficult for people around here to believe, but I wasn't always quite the bellicose, arrogant ass that I usually come across as these days.  And what you wrote here is a large part of the reason I've developed sharper elbows.  Once upon a time around here people would disagree (even about conservative politics!) without immediately descending to the equivalent of "LOLFAG" and "RINO" and "go fuck yourself, traitor girly-man."  I think things shifted around the time of 2008 (hmm...wonder what could've been the trigger...).  Anyway, there's no excusing the obstreperous tone I too-often adopt when commenting around here, but the anticipation of having rhetorical bricks thrown at me by a horde of angry people is a large part about it.  Hence the "thrashier style."

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 03:55 PM (n/+FT)

582 Posted by: Slapweasel at August 30, 2013 08:47 PM (lq3Ak)

If he had lived another 10 years, I would agree. But sadly he didn't and his attempt, accomplished and as far reaching as it is, has not won the culture.

A culture is not "won" it either is changed by a majority embracing a certain pattern of existence and beliefs or it isn't.

I'm quite sure that although we think the liberals won the culture, they are just a surprised as we at what has occurred.

And it will change again and again. It takes time though and most never get to see an entire changeover.

The culture NOW started in the late '50's and even so it has morphed into something not seen as an end result when it began.

There are changes being wrought NOW that will not come to fruition until another generation is born and the youngest now is middle aged.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 30, 2013 03:55 PM (28TG+)

583 So, Robin Thicke changed just enough for legal purposes and probably cannot be sued by the Gaye estate.

Reminds me of when Vanilla Ice tried to say he didn't rip off Queen because their bass line went ding ding ding di di ding ding, but his bass line went di ding ding ding di di ding ding (ff to 1:50) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s0hEi8zhmg

Posted by: booger at August 30, 2013 03:56 PM (xRDdL)

584 I think the one that really has set ace off is some stupid old bitch that has never posted a single comment on the site ever before.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 03:56 PM (LI48c)

585 My wife loved it.I remind her of that every time I watch a SyFy film and she starts up."Sharknado has to be the most ridicu-""Prometheus""..." Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 08:54 PM (fRlGp) Lmao. That shit was terrible. Saw it with my wife. We walked out of the theater, get in the car, she looks at me and "Well, that was pretty fucking terrible."

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 30, 2013 03:56 PM (GEICT)

586 okay here's another little secret.

here's why the general public doesn't like conservatives (as a whole):

They don't like being JUDGED in crudely reductivist (and egoistical) terms every five minutes.  And when I say "egotistical," i mean "You're not doing what *I* would do, so that's bad."

YES, LIBERALS DO THIS ALL THE TIME.

That's why I attack them.

Does anyone imagine that this could POSSIBLY be a more charming attribute when it comes from a conservative point of view?

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 03:56 PM (/IWYB)

587 Its wasn't a rip-off, it was a homage.

Posted by: Manifesto de Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 30, 2013 03:56 PM (2BHYC)

588 Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:53 PM (/IWYB)


--What movie are you writing about here?

Posted by: Mandatory Youtube Comment at August 30, 2013 03:56 PM (bufJH)

589

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:53 PM (/IWYB)

 

 

Come to the 'small L' Libertarian side.... we have cookies... just be careful eating them if they are from the Big L libertarian side...

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 30, 2013 03:56 PM (lZBBB)

590 Yikes

Posted by: The Third Horseman Of The Apocalypse at August 30, 2013 03:56 PM (Dwehj)

591 Iron Man 3 was a kids movie. I'm done with this superhero shit.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2013 03:56 PM (D2tAy)

592 I don't think I've heard a mainstream pop song in fifteen years that is first hearing made me try to recall who had done it originally, because it all sounds so derivative.

IIRC, in the 90s, MTV had commercials featuring a clip with the guitarist of Queenryche, I believe, who spoke of how every catchy chord progression had been used to death and the only thing a band could hope for in the future was to be distinctly derivative.

Posted by: epobirs at August 30, 2013 03:56 PM (kcfmt)

593 talking about all this crap is Boring.

let's talk about me.

although do  it when i'm not here.
because i really , really dislike it all being about Me.

but  when talking about me, i prefer if restraint is used, and only good things are said .

Posted by: willow at August 30, 2013 03:56 PM (nqBYe)

594 >>absolutely hated the movie, but you should see it for the visual effects alone. >>Just don't try to make it make sense. Because it doesn't. What a God awful movie. But you're right, the special effects are awesome. I hope we've peaked with that crap and get back to making movies with actual acting and plots and stuff.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2013 03:57 PM (g1DWB)

595 I think Obama should hack into and deface Assad's kid's Facebook page and call it a day.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 30, 2013 03:57 PM (28TG+)

596 But can we maybe NOT exult in our Proud Rejectivism of everything? Can we occasionally pause to CONSIDER the new without just rejecting it out of hand?

I switched from Nintendo to Playstation back in the mid 90s.

Posted by: Methos at August 30, 2013 03:57 PM (hO9ad)

597 Honest officer, I'm an innocent by-stander. Stopped in to say 'hello', and BLAM!

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 30, 2013 03:57 PM (aDwsi)

598 Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 08:31 PM (dw9bg) *jealous*

Posted by: LizLem, who owns a lawn and is not afraid to tell twentysomething hipsters to get off it at August 30, 2013 03:57 PM (8wqqE)

599 FWIW, I thought this post was hilarious, ace. I'm just as upset and despondent over the direction the country is taking as anybody, but I try not to let it eat away at me. I'm not interested in a 24/7 bitchfest, although I'm perfectly capable of bitching with the best of them.

Posted by: rickl at August 30, 2013 03:57 PM (sdi6R)

600 >>>But can we maybe NOT exult in our Proud Rejectivism of everything? Can we occasionally pause to CONSIDER the new without just rejecting it out of hand?

LOL RINO FAG.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 03:57 PM (n/+FT)

601 I also am irredeemably Canadian, and had never heard the song until just now. I listened to the "You're the hottest bitch in this place/I feel so lucky/you wanna hug me/ what rhymes with hug me" and that was enough. Besides, I have my own tits to jiggle around and I don't even have to hug a goat. I do mean hug, and not what rhymes with it.

Posted by: Gingy at August 30, 2013 03:58 PM (aH+zP)

602 American's affection for the chocolate chip cookie is inherently racist. It reinforces the average American's belief that black people are small and unimportant and surrounded by more important whiteness.

Posted by: L.V. Anderson at August 30, 2013 03:58 PM (Aif/5)

603 I'm tired of this. I'm so tired of this. Ace, you're only tired of it because you care about truth. And personal freedom. Fuck other people's opinions. We come here to hear what you have to say. If we have fun in the threads that's a bonus. But that 's not why 90% of us are here. We're here to listen to ace. Just keep doing what you're doing and don't take other people's internal melodramas and make them your problem. Now gimme a hug ya big lug.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 30, 2013 03:59 PM (2p0oM)

604 593 talking about all this crap is Boring.

let's talk about me.

although do it when i'm not here.
because i really , really dislike it all being about Me.

but when talking about me, i prefer if restraint is used, and only good things are said .

Posted by: willow at August 30, 2013 08:56 PM (nqBYe)

 

We did that in the link dump thread this morning.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 03:59 PM (LI48c)

605 I wonder, where "rodeo clown wearing an Obama mask gets banned for life from  Missouri State Fair" falls in the popular culture discussion?

Posted by: mrp at August 30, 2013 03:59 PM (HjPtV)

606 "...they identified prince Bandar as the head of Saudi intelligence, given that he was always the got to guy on MSNBC for all things ME, back when I watched them."

I remember the best Chris Matthews moment, when Prince bandar said: "Chris, excuse me for saying this, that's bullshit."

Posted by: flashbazzbo, s.e. at August 30, 2013 03:59 PM (2yZsg)

607 Ridley Scott has made some great movies bit also some real turds.Ace,relax man,take a long weekend off.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 03:59 PM (dBYCN)

608 583...yo that was dope yo.

Posted by: Vanilla Ice at August 30, 2013 03:59 PM (ujrve)

609 not a big fan of the "No Fun Allowed, Ever" impulse of the "Serious" True Warriors, either.

We're about to go to war with Syria?

No shit?

Gee, I remember fucking reading that on this blog.  Like every day this week.

People need to get their fucking heads out of their asses. 

"Information" and "Commentary" and not synonymous with "Endless Clearly-Worded Activism that Animates Readers to Take Concrete Action."

And that last is also not synonymous with thinking.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 03:59 PM (/IWYB)

610 Posted by: booger at August 30, 2013 08:56 PM (xRDdL)

I thought he ripped off David Bowie.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 30, 2013 03:59 PM (28TG+)

611 It's my party and I'll cry if I want to .

Posted by: Javier Fiasco at August 30, 2013 03:59 PM (qQk+U)

612 Lmao. That shit was terrible. Saw it with my wife. We walked out of the theater, get in the car, she looks at me and "Well, that was pretty fucking terrible." Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 30, 2013 08:56 PM (GEICT)


The (late, lamented) BFF and I went to see Babylon A.D.   It ends.   We get in the car.   She looks at me and says "What the fuck was that?"   I shrugged and said "I have no idea."


To this day I cannot tell you if I hated it or liked it or what the actual fucking fuck that was.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 03:59 PM (Gk3SS)

613 *jealous* Posted by: LizLem, who owns a lawn and is not afraid to tell twentysomething hipsters to get off it at August 30, 2013 08:57 PM (8wqqE) If you ever get the chance to meet Morons and Moronettes, do it. From my experience, they are wonderful people. Go hundreds of miles if you have to.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 04:00 PM (dw9bg)

614 Here's some pop culture consolation: If the review I read today of her movie with Ethan Hawke is part of the consensus, Selena Gomez's big screen acting career appears stillborn.

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 04:00 PM (bufJH)

615 mm. perhaps i should read more in the thread.
we aren't really arguing about content are we?


I thought we were all Breitbart?

Posted by: willow at August 30, 2013 04:00 PM (nqBYe)

616 I did not join the conservative movement to have my tastes and thoughts supervised by the Committe of the Conservative Whole anymore than I'd want that service performed by the Committee of the Leftist Whole. -- I'm really sorry you're feeling that way. I assume most of us feel that way from time to time. I certainly do. I try to remember this place is like a bar where I'm free to wander in and out of conversations and where I sometimes just sit with my drink and listen to other peoples' convos. I guess it's hard to do that when it's you're blog.

Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2013 04:00 PM (5H6zj)

617 I think the one that really has set ace off is some stupid old bitch that has never posted a single comment on the site ever before.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 08:56 PM (LI48c)


Yeah, that's usually how this works.

Posted by: Methos at August 30, 2013 04:00 PM (hO9ad)

618

Ace seems most argumentative when his manic energy is waxing

 

 

Nah, it's completely phototropic. 

 The days are getting shorter and Ace's winter coat is bound to start coming in any day now.  He always gets grumpy at the turn of the season.  You don't want to be around when he molts in the Spring. 

Once he gets his therapy lamp plugged in he'll come around.

 

 

 

 

 

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 04:00 PM (XntP1)

619 607 Ridley Scott has made some great movies bit also some real turds.Ace,relax man,take a long weekend off.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 08:59 PM (dBYCN)


--zombie wrote an epic shredding of Kingdom of Heaven.

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 04:00 PM (bufJH)

620 Hold on a sec. [*click on*] Dig up Marvin Gaye's corpse, rape it, videotape myself raping Marvin Gaye's corpse, and then sell that rape-tape to the world and became a millionaire. [*click off*]

Posted by: Bill "Blaze" Blazejowski at August 30, 2013 04:01 PM (eHIJJ)

621 >This was a harmless post. It was funny and informative. It did in fact make people aware of the #1 song in the coutnry -- part of the Culture, you understand -- and ten weeks worth of controversy about it.


and one person said they didn't like it and you went apeshit, man!

C'mon, man! You're better than this. You are better than this, right? It's a holiday weekend. Get drunk; get laid. Do ya a world of good.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 04:01 PM (8sCoq)

622 this is why we should have an AoS Friday Night Movie no liveblog -- too much hassle just find a movie we can all watch and set a start time and post a thread

Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2013 04:01 PM (D2tAy)

623 Breitbart is here.  Right here.  Slapweasel endorsed, Win The Culture Criticism. 

Should you care not to win the culture, you've "tuned out".

#1.  Go buy an "I Want My Childhood Back" -car and bury your head in the sand.

#2. Stop doing anything "outrageous".  You've turned in your card.  No more attention for you.

#3.  Blend in because culture vultures will eat you alive.

#4.  Shut up.  No need for your old-ass opinion anymore.  They might as well have buried you with hoop-skirts.

#5.  "Cool" goes on while you ignore it.

-Breitbart Lives.

Posted by: Slapweasel at August 30, 2013 04:01 PM (lq3Ak)

624 The (late, lamented) BFF and I went to see Babylon A.D. It ends. We get in the car. She looks at me and says "What the fuck was that?" I shrugged and said "I have no idea." To this day I cannot tell you if I hated it or liked it or what the actual fucking fuck that was. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 08:59 PM (Gk3SS) *hangs head* I suggested, and convinced a large group of friends, to go see 10,000BC.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 30, 2013 04:01 PM (GEICT)

625 (Seriously, she rocks. As an attendee of the NoVaMoMee, along with the greatness of AtC is MWR, LadyS, MWR, and spypeach (apologies if I forgot others.) Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 08:25 PM (dw9bg) V: All the above are true Moronesses on pedestals including yourself, although some have or need higher pedestals to be sure!

Posted by: Chelsea Hrothgar at August 30, 2013 04:01 PM (XdnQT)

626 Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:56 PM (/IWYB You do know that the conservative philosophy is the protector of the culture and the parents that have to make the hard , unpopular choices?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at August 30, 2013 04:01 PM (AiZkN)

627 We did that in the link dump thread this morning.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 08:59 PM (LI48c)


well darn it is that why i was feeling a bit wrist slicey this a.m?

Posted by: willow at August 30, 2013 04:01 PM (nqBYe)

628 >>>not a big fan of the "No Fun Allowed, Ever" impulse of the "Serious" True Warriors, either.

Even the Daily Kos has a steady stream of pop culture threads on its main page to give its fawning myrmidons a chance to cool off and just talk about things other than politics.

EVEN THE DAILY FUCKING KOS, PEOPLE.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 04:01 PM (n/+FT)

629 anyone else excited about RIDDICK?

Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2013 04:02 PM (D2tAy)

630 584 I think the one that really has set ace off is some stupid old bitch that has never posted a single comment on the site ever before. Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 08:56 PM (LI48c) Right? The post is great. Vintage Ace. A Friday night post full of biting snark and a variant on the "...but mostly a JDAM" line throughout. Ace, you are like Rush. You have your own "stick to the issues" crowd. And you have open comments. Who knows who the hell these people are, or if they are honest? The reality is, I'm just a multimillionaire with an elephantine penis. The other stuff, it's all fake.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 30, 2013 04:02 PM (T0NGe)

631 >> We're about to go to war with Syria? >> No shit? >> Gee, I remember fucking reading that on this blog. Like every day this week. Dangit, Ace. You whiffed on a perfect opportunity to plug the podcast here since we talked about Robin Thicke at length. Oh, wait, that was Syria. My bad.

Posted by: Andy at August 30, 2013 04:02 PM (li+aS)

632 >>> I think the one that really has set ace off is some stupid old bitch that has never posted a single comment on the site ever before. I believe you are on to something.

Posted by: fluffy at August 30, 2013 04:02 PM (7y1wy)

633 Thank you for the tea, willow.


*shots*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 04:03 PM (Gk3SS)

634 "They didn't! Go check the official writing credits for that song now. It's now "written by Chuck Berry.""

I did not know that. Being a Chuck Berry fan, this is a happy thing. Thanks!

Posted by: flashbazzbo, s.e. at August 30, 2013 04:03 PM (2yZsg)

635 *shots* Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 09:03 PM (Gk3SS) Here, finish this shit. *passes over Cabo Wabo*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 30, 2013 04:03 PM (GEICT)

636

Ace, go see The World's End. It was great. The ending is fantastic.

We're the Millers was fun too.

 

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 04:03 PM (fRlGp)

637 607 "Ridley Scott has made some great movies bit also some real turds."

Fer cryin' out loud, I'm standing right here!

Posted by: Prometheus at August 30, 2013 04:03 PM (J4Gi+)

638 Current culture has not a clue about pretty fucking relevant including to the national debt and just about every other damned thing under the sun.

Confirmed:  You do not know what the word "culture" means.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 30, 2013 04:03 PM (X9Mnx)

639 I honestly had no idea this song existed or was the #1 hit; let alone that it was a shameless ripoff of Marvin Gaye. And I'm usually fairly pop culture literate. I watched the video because of this post; video was so strange I only masturbated to it twice.

Posted by: UGAdawg at August 30, 2013 04:03 PM (e/9tl)

640 >>just find a movie we can all watch and set a start time and post a thread I'm watching Fifth Element and still wondering why ace doesn't love it. The soundtrack is boss. For that alone it's worth watching.

Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2013 04:04 PM (5H6zj)

641 I thought he ripped off David Bowie.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 30, 2013 08:59 PM (28TG+)


Yeah, it's Queen and Bowie, i'm just too lazy to type both names out unless i have to.

Posted by: booger at August 30, 2013 04:04 PM (xRDdL)

642 Hard, unpopular choices doesn't have to mean shitting on everyone else's choices, Sebastian.

Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Things at August 30, 2013 04:04 PM (GmTxn)

643 487 Ace do you know the number one song on the Country charts? Probably some paint-by-numbers Taylor Swift-inspired dreck. The only thing more burned-out right now than pop is country. Posted by: TRUE CONSERVATIVE at August 30, 2013 08:37 PM (RBQss) Progressive bluegrass, aka indie country via Mumford and Sons, or Philip Phillips, is doing well. The rest, I have no idea.

Posted by: LizLem, who owns a lawn and is not afraid to tell twentysomething hipsters to get off it at August 30, 2013 04:05 PM (8wqqE)

644 AtC, I'm dealing with the weirdest, and most blest, news about my BFF.  She's so far out-lived the two week death sentence given by her Emory docs by over two months.

She also quit her pain patch (without her husband's knowledge) for a few days and ended up back at Emory because she was so sick.  Her doctors were astounded to see her our of her wheelchair, walking in (with a walker).  She has decided to be without her pain patch, and wants to be able to eat, and walk.  Her doctors are astonished.

Anyhow, there are miracles.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2013 04:05 PM (lVPtV)

645 Hey AtC! I wrote something new! And no math this time!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 30, 2013 04:05 PM (GEICT)

646 I suggested, and convinced a large group of friends, to go see 10,000BC. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk

Not as bad as the bastard that invited my wife and me to see Mr. Holland's Opus - so they could see it A SECOND TIME!  They were dead to us after that.

Posted by: Dang at August 30, 2013 04:05 PM (Hx2XA)

647 Here, finish this shit. *passes over Cabo Wabo* Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 30, 2013 09:03 PM (GEICT) Weren't you drinking that when you were sans wife and children?

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 04:05 PM (dw9bg)

648 Here's some pop culture consolation: If the review I read today of her movie with Ethan Hawke is part of the consensus, Selena Gomez's big screen acting career appears stillborn. I liked her song too.

Posted by: traye at August 30, 2013 04:05 PM (4SakS)

649 "And you have open comments. Who knows who the hell these people are, or if they are honest? The reality is, I'm just a multimillionaire with an elephantine penis. The other stuff, it's all fake." They're real. And they're spectacular!

Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2013 04:05 PM (5H6zj)

650 Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2013 09:02 PM (D2tAy) I am. Is this a prequel?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at August 30, 2013 04:05 PM (AiZkN)

651 618 Really?Have to go find that.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 04:06 PM (dBYCN)

652 Rifftrax (mike nelson) riffed Fifth Element. Pretty good.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2013 04:06 PM (D2tAy)

653 >>>Yeah, it's Queen and Bowie, i'm just too lazy to type both names out unless i have to.

Yeah, sure.  Why don't you just admit that you're bigoted against queens. #NOHATE.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 04:06 PM (n/+FT)

654 ok, well I guess i cannot help make anyone feel better , so i'm off to the garden.

have a nice evening.

Posted by: willow at August 30, 2013 04:06 PM (nqBYe)

655 The book, by Maurice Danton (sic) is far weirder then the Diesel film, so these people you encouraged to watch 10,000 BC, still talk to you,

Posted by: Raymond Luxury Yacht at August 30, 2013 04:06 PM (Jsiw/)

656 Weren't you drinking that when you were sans wife and children? Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 09:05 PM (dw9bg) *cough* that was a couple bottles ago *cough*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 30, 2013 04:06 PM (GEICT)

657

 Selena Gomez's big screen acting career appears stillborn.

 

 

Do we get to see her titties?

Do we want to?  I have no idea who Selena Gomez is.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 04:06 PM (XntP1)

658 Ace, go see The World's End. It was great. The ending is fantastic. How could people recognise pristine Blanks?

Posted by: adams oculi porn at August 30, 2013 04:06 PM (gQKHE)

659 Progressive bluegrass, aka indie country via Mumford and Sons, or Philip Phillips, is doing well. The rest, I have no idea.

Posted by: LizLem, who owns a lawn and is not afraid to tell twentysomething hipsters to get off it at August 30, 2013 09:05 PM (8wqqE)

 

They are playing around here tomorrow night.  I had no idea who it was until someone mentioned part of their song.  "oh that song.  I don't like it."

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 04:06 PM (LI48c)

660 If this blog has become too shouty you can always click on my sig and read about motorcycle air filter maintenance

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 04:07 PM (8sCoq)

661 Jesus. Now Dave's watching the I censored version. I'm sure it's due to interest in today's pop culture.

Posted by: Gingy at August 30, 2013 04:07 PM (aH+zP)

662 Prequel? No idea. Probably.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2013 04:07 PM (D2tAy)

663 Jane D'oh, so wonderful to read!

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 04:08 PM (dw9bg)

664 Uncensored, you ducking autocorrect.

Posted by: Gingy at August 30, 2013 04:08 PM (aH+zP)

665 Selena Gomez is looking to shed her Disney.  So, keep your eyes peeled.  You may see boobehs soon. 

Posted by: no good deed at August 30, 2013 04:08 PM (WmLrU)

666 >I have no idea who Selena Gomez is.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 09:06 PM (XntP1)



BURN HIM

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 04:08 PM (8sCoq)

667 I know she is a person who exists.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 04:08 PM (8sCoq)

668 Wait...what's all this about Syria, now?

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 04:08 PM (XntP1)

669 666 Amanda Bynes could be confined to a mental health facility for up to a year ... based on a ruling that was just handed down by a judge ... TMZ has learned.

#AceWinsTheCulture

Posted by: Javier Fiasco at August 30, 2013 04:08 PM (qQk+U)

670 660 Jesus. Now Dave's watching the I censored version. I'm sure it's due to interest in today's pop culture. Posted by: Gingy at August 30, 2013 09:07 PM (aH+zP) He's studious.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 04:08 PM (dw9bg)

671 Jones You are banned from my dishwasher until further notice!

anyway nite.

Posted by: willow at August 30, 2013 04:09 PM (nqBYe)

672  
   I like grandkids.  They're fun to torment and when you're tired of them you can give them back.

   So tomorrow is going to be spent in the company of the 2 best grandkids in this hemisphere.

   And all the flippin problems can go fly a kite for a bit.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 30, 2013 04:09 PM (SAMxH)

673 I tried to listen to the linked songs to compare, but I found I cannot stand either the Thicke Dick or Marvin Gaye. Really crappy music.

Posted by: Chris M at August 30, 2013 04:09 PM (4lyMJ)

674 > Wait...what's all this about Syria, now?

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 09:08 PM (XntP1)



forget it- that's been talked to death

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 04:09 PM (8sCoq)

675 ok, well I guess i cannot help make anyone feel better , so i'm off to the garden.

have a nice evening.

Posted by: willow at August 30, 2013 09:06 PM (nqBYe)


Now that willow's gone and we can talk about her, per the request upthread, there's something I need to get off my chest

Posted by: Will Folks at August 30, 2013 04:10 PM (hO9ad)

676 >>> Should you care not to win the culture, you've "tuned out". I own one more pair of jeans than George Will does.

Posted by: fluffy at August 30, 2013 04:10 PM (7y1wy)

677 666 I know she is a person who exists.


That settles it.  Selena Gomez is the antichrist.


Posted by: Dang at August 30, 2013 04:10 PM (Hx2XA)

678 yeah I raised some eyebrows with that one

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 04:10 PM (8sCoq)

679 Now that willow's gone and we can talk about her, per the request upthread, there's something I need to get off my chest Sacred honor and all that....

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 30, 2013 04:11 PM (2p0oM)

680 I have lived long enough to see recurrent patterns.

In the '80's it was George Michaels and "I Want Your Sex" was all controversial and big deal. meh.

So this is just the same ol' same ol' turned up to 11.

Still it's pertinent and an indicator of how the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Which in some ways should give us hope and in others make us rend our hair in despair.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 30, 2013 04:11 PM (28TG+)

681 I tried to listen to the linked songs to compare, but I found I cannot stand either the Thicke Dick or Marvin Gaye. Really crappy music.

Posted by: Chris M


I couldn't sit through it either.

Posted by: Dang at August 30, 2013 04:11 PM (Hx2XA)

682 I like grandkids. They're fun to torment and when you're tired of them you can give them back. So tomorrow is going to be spent in the company of the 2 best grandkids in this hemisphere. Posted by: irongrampa at August 30, 2013 09:09 PM (SAMxH) I'd like to know who replaced the parents I knew with grandparents.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 04:11 PM (dw9bg)

683 But I like Fifth Element.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 04:12 PM (dBYCN)

684 oh ya, went to a KFC last night... They Were OUT OF CHICKEN. True story.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2013 04:12 PM (D2tAy)

685 >>> I suggested, and convinced a large group of friends, to go see 10,000BC. I liked it.

Posted by: fluffy at August 30, 2013 04:12 PM (7y1wy)

686 I'm convinced that you could issue a script to everyone for a bottle of happy pills, and half of them would STILL bitch about the pills not being strong enough, instead of just taking TWO FUCKING PILLS.

Posted by: Fritz at August 30, 2013 04:12 PM (KIHQS)

687 oh and holy shit ITS ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA NEW SEASON STARTS IN 5 DAYS

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 04:12 PM (fRlGp)

688
oh ya, went to a KFC last night...

They Were OUT OF CHICKEN.

True story.

Posted by: soothsayer


BAMANOMICS,  BABY!

Posted by: Dang at August 30, 2013 04:13 PM (Hx2XA)

689 "I own one more pair of jeans than George Will does."

Posted by: fluffy at August 30, 2013 09:10 PM (7y1wy)


By history and culture, that either makes you a genius or a dunce.

Posted by: Slapweasel at August 30, 2013 04:13 PM (lq3Ak)

690 I thought that Electric Six song ace posted on a Carlos Danger thread was funny. I thought to myself, there's actually a current pop song that I find entertaining. Then I looked it up and found out it was from 2003.

Posted by: Adam at August 30, 2013 04:13 PM (Aif/5)

691 Selena Gomez is the cute very-underage-looking-but-actually-of-age disney chick who sang "I Love You Like a Love Song", which must have been written in 5 minutes.

Posted by: brak at August 30, 2013 04:13 PM (RBQss)

692 Did you know that soul music makes you homo ?
It made Marvin Gaye.

Posted by: Javier Fiasco at August 30, 2013 04:13 PM (qQk+U)

693 Hey guys!

Come on down to the Outrage Outlet!


I have fresh dudgeon and we're never out of raspberry crabbiness!


That's the Outrage Outlet, down by the Four-Way Stop!

Posted by: Mikey NTH Spittle-Flecked Diatribes Now 25% Off! at August 30, 2013 04:13 PM (gmoEG)

694 Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:53 PM (/IWYB) This reminds me of the Adam Carolla/Bryan Cranston segment of one of his podcasts, where Bryan came on and was excited to be in Adam's upcoming movie, then it devolved into an egofest and then a shoutfest of telling each other to eff off. It was hilarious and obviously them joking around together, loved it. If that's not what you are doing, Ace, if you really are ticked off and this is not a gag, go watch the Blurred Lines vid 50 times, get some good food and drink in you, take a walk to your nearest park, heckle a stupid lib pundit, whatever you need to get your blood pressure back to normal. We don't need anything happening to you. Enjoy the weekend, we'll be here when you get back. All the radio hosts have been taking breaks, if you need one take one. What is everyone doing this weekend? I am doing a girl's movie night and wrapping up an illustration for a t-shirt contest Saturday, church Sunday, drawing and lazing around Monday. Is looking to be a good 3-day weekend!

Posted by: LizLem, who owns a lawn and is not afraid to tell twentysomething hipsters to get off it at August 30, 2013 04:13 PM (8wqqE)

695
I've been watching "Pitch Perfect" this week.

Like a lot.

Kinda worried about that....


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 30, 2013 04:14 PM (kdS6q)

696 We'll be winning the culture when Tina Fey dons a wig and a fatsuit for her Hillary sketches on SNL.

Posted by: mrp at August 30, 2013 04:14 PM (HjPtV)

697 685 oh and holy shit ITS ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA NEW SEASON STARTS IN 5 DAYS Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 09:12 PM (fRlGp) I've seen very little of that show. What I have seen, I didn't find funny.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 30, 2013 04:14 PM (GEICT)

698 This post is why I've been reading ace for nearly 10 motherfucking years. Thanks ace.

Posted by: scootran at August 30, 2013 04:14 PM (jjjp/)

699

And once again, Matt Stone and Trey Parker are proven soothsayers.

 

Should be a bumper crop this fall.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 30, 2013 04:14 PM (6rcHp)

700 >"I own one more pair of jeans than George Will does."


I've been to George Will's house. Nice gas meter.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 04:15 PM (8sCoq)

701 there are plenty of tv shows and movies on youtube we could watch

Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2013 04:15 PM (D2tAy)

702

oh ya, went to a KFC last night...



They Were OUT OF CHICKEN.

 

 

Sequester.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 04:15 PM (XntP1)

703 Did you know that soul music makes you homo ?
It made Marvin Gaye.

Did you know soul music makes you think ?
It made Stevie Wonder.

Posted by: Javier Fiasco at August 30, 2013 04:15 PM (qQk+U)

704 I've been watching "Pitch Perfect" this week.

Like a lot.

It's addictive.  I think I can quote the whole movie.  I may have a girl crush on Anna Kendrick now too.

Posted by: no good deed at August 30, 2013 04:15 PM (WmLrU)

705 What makes The Fifth Element great is that it didn't go the "dark" route, which was already cliched by the late 90's and just flat out tiresome now.

Posted by: booger at August 30, 2013 04:16 PM (xRDdL)

706 oh ya, went to a KFC last night...

They Were OUT OF CHICKEN.

True story.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2013 09:12 PM (D2tAy)


--I've been to an Arby's that ran out of beef, and a Taco Bell that was out of tortillas.

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 04:16 PM (bufJH)

707 BAMANOMICS, BABY! Posted by: Dang at August 30, 2013 09:13 PM (Hx2XA) They only can offer chicken part-time, yo!

Posted by: Chelsea Hrothgar at August 30, 2013 04:16 PM (XdnQT)

708 What is everyone doing this weekend? I am doing a girl's movie night and wrapping up an illustration for a t-shirt contest Saturday, church Sunday, drawing and lazing around Monday. Is looking to be a good 3-day weekend! --- That does sound good! Well, today is my birthday but Mr Y-not isn't here, so my friend took me to the sheepdog competition in Midway, Utah, and then we had lunch, which in my case featured tongue tacos! Going to garden tomorrow and have a dinner date with my husband later this weekend, where I will wear a dress that he *really* appreciates. :-)

Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2013 04:16 PM (5H6zj)

709 "And once again, Matt Stone and Trey Parker are proven soothsayers.

Should be a bumper crop this fall.
"

Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 30, 2013 09:14 PM (6rcHp)


^^^THIS^^^


-"Culture" depends on the popular kids.

Posted by: Slapweasel at August 30, 2013 04:17 PM (lq3Ak)

710 George Will and Rush Limbaugh shouldn't let hippies take things.  Jeans were worn by miners and pioneers long before they were worn by hippies.  It's a part of American culture that has spread around the world.  Yes,  dump the hippie bullshit,  but keep the jeans.

Posted by: Dang at August 30, 2013 04:17 PM (Hx2XA)

711 >>>oh and holy shit ITS ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA NEW SEASON STARTS IN 5 DAYS

really?

wow. Now clear this up for me.  by the way this is not sarcasm; that was a real really and real wow.

They keep saying it's going to be on FXX.  (still not sarcasm; when I heard it was going to be on FXX i assumed they meant REPEATS of season 8.)

What is FXX?


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 04:17 PM (/IWYB)

712 Oh, Jane, that is amazing.   Bittersweet and all but amazing.


Horde.   This just happened to me.   Before I begin, let me state FUCK YOU OUTSIDE FUCK YOU I DON'T GO OUT THERE WHY DO YOU COME IN HERE WHYYYYYY.   Moving on.

I see something out of the corner of my eye and glance up at the ceiling.   There is, no lie, a 2 1/2 inch long cicada crawling about.   Cue shrieking, falling off the couch and profanity.  


After hopping around, one eye on the fucking thing the whole time, I dash for the vacuum to suck it up.  Loins girded, I do so with only a minimal amount of it running and me slamming the tube attachment into the ceiling.

Did I mention that my vacuum is bagless?   I leave the vacuum on and hold the end of the attachment thingy (technical term) against the ceiling for a good 30 seconds to make sure the creature doesn't swarm out after me.   Then I check the container.

Now I have a 2 1/2 inch live cicada in the collection container for the vacuum.  It's scurrying around in there all help me help me.   Cue profanity.


So I drag the vacuum outside, take out the container and bump everything out on the ground.  Fucking thing promptly begins to make a beeline for the door.   Did I put shoes on so I could squash it?   What, you think I planned that far ahead?   Of course not.   I go diving through the door, vacuum dragging behind me, then slam the door shut.

FUCK YOU OUTSIDE.   FUCK.  YOU.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 04:17 PM (Gk3SS)

713 Happy birthday, Y-not!!!!

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 04:17 PM (dw9bg)

714

"irredeemably"!

"irredeemably"!

I luv it! Can't repeat it enough.

"irredeemably Canadian"!

Luuuuuuuuuuuv iiiiiiit!

I feel so "irredeemable". :-(

Oh well...I live in the elephants' quarters...no matter

Posted by: Pedro at August 30, 2013 04:18 PM (vtDp3)

715 701 What makes The Fifth Element great is that it didn't go the "dark" route, which was already cliched by the late 90's and just flat out tiresome now. -- Yes. It's very atmospheric in look (and soundtrack), but just a good popcorn movie in terms of plot.

Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2013 04:18 PM (5H6zj)

716 This post is why I've been reading ace for nearly 10 motherfucking years. Thanks ace. Posted by: scootran at August 30, 2013 09:14 PM (jjjp/) Once you read an Ace post like this, and then wade through the comments (which does take some discipline) you are either hooked or barely sentient.

Posted by: Chelsea Hrothgar at August 30, 2013 04:18 PM (XdnQT)

717 let's now talk about me. join in hipsters.

Posted by: chango butt at August 30, 2013 04:18 PM (qQk+U)

718 694 685 oh and holy shit ITS ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA NEW SEASON STARTS IN 5 DAYS

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 09:12 PM (fRlGp)



I've seen very little of that show. What I have seen, I didn't find funny.
    Have you watched Gun Fever?  I thought that episode was funny.  I don't go out of my way to watch the show, to me its nothing special but I think its watchable.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 04:19 PM (LI48c)

719

  I like when Ace gets all worked up about something and then writes about it...... and then gets all worked up about people commenting on the article he wrote...... and then when Ace goes NUCLEAR on said commenters..... that is f*cking classic.

 

  Thanks Ace.  You made my damn day.   

 

  For realz.   

Posted by: I may be old but I know a culture war when I see one at August 30, 2013 04:19 PM (+GlI2)

720 What is FXX? Just a new channel they're starting. Going to have a few established FX shows and some new shows, as well as movies.

Posted by: Adam at August 30, 2013 04:19 PM (Aif/5)

721 What is everyone doing this weekend? I am doing a girl's movie night and wrapping up an illustration for a t-shirt contest Saturday, church Sunday, drawing and lazing around Monday. Is looking to be a good 3-day weekend!

Posted by: LizLem, who owns a lawn and is not afraid to tell twentysomething hipsters to get off it at August 30, 2013 09:13 PM (8wqqE)


--No cable TV so spending tomorrow hitting "refresh" a lot checking football scores while babysitting and reading.

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 04:19 PM (bufJH)

722 692 I am going to go to around the loop at Wrightsville Beach and hope that brunette is from here so I can talk to her about blurring some lines.

Posted by: traye at August 30, 2013 04:19 PM (4SakS)

723 what's even worse is I went to McDonalds early yesterday morning and their grill was shut down...so now Sausage Eggwhite McMuffins!

Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2013 04:19 PM (D2tAy)

724 Mmm, McGriddle.

Posted by: Dang at August 30, 2013 04:20 PM (Hx2XA)

725 "# T H I C K E"

Can you believe the self-promotion of this guy? How embarrassing.

Posted by: T R U M P at August 30, 2013 04:20 PM (eHIJJ)

726 I know this difficult for people around here to believe, but I wasn't always quite the bellicose, arrogant ass that I usually come across as these days. And what you wrote here is a large part of the reason I've developed sharper elbows. Once upon a time around here people would disagree (even about conservative politics!) without immediately descending to the equivalent of "LOLFAG" and "RINO" and "go fuck yourself, traitor girly-man." I think things shifted around the time of 2008 (hmm...wonder what could've been the trigger...). Anyway, there's no excusing the obstreperous tone I too-often adopt when commenting around here, but the anticipation of having rhetorical bricks thrown at me by a horde of angry people is a large part about it. Hence the "thrashier style." Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 08:55 PM (n/+FT) *********** Ah hah. Got it.

Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2013 04:21 PM (r2PLg)

727 What is FXX?


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 09:17 PM (/IWYB)


--Moving the comedy from FX to a new channel.  FX will keep drama like The Americans.

Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2013 04:21 PM (bufJH)

728 AtC.... *wheezing* ....I...read that to...my wife.... *doubled over in laughter* .....she's laughing too...

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 30, 2013 04:21 PM (GEICT)

729 Aww, now I'm hungry for a cicada McMuffin. Crunchewy!

Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 30, 2013 04:21 PM (6rcHp)

730
It's addictive. I think I can quote the whole movie. I may have a girl crush on Anna Kendrick now too.
Posted by: no good deed




Anna is down around 6th place in that movie for me.  Cute, but she looks like a possum when she smiles.

Top of the list, a sleeper - Caroline Fourmy.  She was the girl with glasses in the audition.  Had about one line in the movie, but instant love.

Also, can't get the "Party in the USA" and "Blame it on the Boogie" covers out my head.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 30, 2013 04:21 PM (kdS6q)

731 707 >>>oh and holy shit ITS ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA NEW SEASON STARTS IN 5 DAYS

really?

wow. Now clear this up for me. by the way this is not sarcasm; that was a real really and real wow.

They keep saying it's going to be on FXX. (still not sarcasm; when I heard it was going to be on FXX i assumed they meant REPEATS of season 8.)

What is FXX?


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 09:17 PM (/IWYB)

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FXX

 

OMG Christian Nation is coming TRUE!!!!!

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 04:21 PM (LI48c)

732 nood

Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2013 04:21 PM (D2tAy)

733

Ace,

FXX is the new Fox channel where they're shuffling more of the 18-35 year old demo shows (Sunny, The League, Archer, etc) off to.

There's a website that lists all the channel #s depending on your carrier. If you got DirecTV it will be on #619

 

 

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 04:21 PM (fRlGp)

734 "# T H I C K E" Can you believe the self-promotion of this guy? How embarrassing. Posted by: T R U M P at August 30, 2013 09:20 PM (eHIJJ) What poor taste!

Posted by: O B A M A at August 30, 2013 04:21 PM (XdnQT)

735 >>>f that's not what you are doing, Ace, if you really are ticked off and this is not a gag,

it's not a gag.  I'm really exasperated and tired of this bullshit.

Conservatives take something with a little truth in it -- "judgment is necessary" -- and they've turned it into a cult of negativity.

I don't give a shit about every critical thought a very critical group of people has.

Sometimes people can just... not be critical.

What a liberal idea.

I especially loved seeing the kneejerk "I don't like this" comments within minutes of posting a very long post, thus demonstrating to me that they hadn't bothered to even read it, but wanted me to know they didn't like it anyway.

And that's a completely charming character attribute which we should certainly all nurture and encourage because people LOVE that sort of thing, and that's how you #WinTheCulture.

Whatever.  I wrote a piece I thought was funny and I presented it to people and rather than reading it they decided to say "What about syria?"

#WinTheCulture


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 04:21 PM (/IWYB)

736

I don't think cicadas can bite, AtC.  No need to worry about them.  

Now, I hope you aren't locked out.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 04:22 PM (XntP1)

737 We all occasionally swat a troll. This, Ace, was Giving It Too Much Attention. Next time, just post a link to a picture of a middle finger.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 30, 2013 04:22 PM (NLqIR)

738 What is FXX?

I dunno. I don't see a listing for it on Direct TV, so maybe it hasn't debuted yet?

Fox Sports 1 is just the old Speed channel, and they didn't show a place for it in the list until the day it began (at which point the old number for Speed just indicated the new number and name).

Posted by: Methos at August 30, 2013 04:22 PM (hO9ad)

739 [Hands ace a Valu-Rite and tonic] [Sips from his own glass of prune juice] Ace, you know we love you in an entirely heteronormative way that harks back to Greek concepts of agape and philia and all sorts of icky Western stuff. What's more, it's great that you're wandering out into the reaches of the popular culture and bringing back reports for us sedentary types get rather isolated in our Fortresses of Cultural Solitude. That post took a lot of work and we, and I appreciate the labor. I think when people say Get Off My Damn Lawn stuff like "I don't care about this" and "I stopped paying attention to music after rap got popular" and such like they're simply saying "Yes, I find this subject daunting because I am disconnected from the culture due to my responsibilities and interests. This song does not appeal to me," with the unspoken subtext being "but it's good to learn about this since it is an important aspect of the current culture." As a certified old fart who thinks this Vivaldi fellow is rather new and daring, I'm happy to get reports like this and want you to be appreciated. Plus I've got a full bottle of Valu-Rite and a fresh hobo pelt for you. So please relax and keep doing stuff like this, because even the old farts like me secretly like it. Really. More booze?

Posted by: joncelli at August 30, 2013 04:23 PM (hjaLy)

740 709 Happy birthday, Y-not!!!! Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 09:17 PM Thank you, Vendette. I'd tell you my age but I'm afraid I would be one of those old fogeys ace is sick of! So let's pretend I'm 30. ;-)

Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2013 04:23 PM (5H6zj)

741 708 Horde. This just happened to me. Before I begin, let me state FUCK YOU OUTSIDE FUCK YOU I DON'T GO OUT THERE WHY DO YOU COME IN HERE WHYYYYYY. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 09:17 PM (Gk3SS) I saw a face-sized spider in my kitchen last night. As soon as I turned on the light, it took off downstairs and I lost track of it. It's still in the house. IT'S IN THE HOUSE.

Posted by: rickl at August 30, 2013 04:23 PM (sdi6R)

742 FX is supposed to be for the network's dramas ("Justified," "American Horror Story," "The Americans," etc.), while FXX is going to be handling the comedies (like "It's Always Sunny," "The League," whatever the hell Charlie Sheen is on, etc.)

Posted by: Synnerman at August 30, 2013 04:23 PM (0Bdlg)

743

AtC,

You know, when cicadas first emerge, they're quite tasty sauteed with garlic and butter.

Posted by: RS at August 30, 2013 04:23 PM (YAGV/)

744 Oh shit.... Operation Cicada

Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2013 04:24 PM (r2PLg)

745 >>>There's a website that lists all the channel #s depending on your carrier. If you got DirecTV it will be on #619

thanks. I don't. I guess I should have just looked this up rather than ask you a question you couldn't possibly answer, not knowing my cable system, huh?

Oh well.

but thanks for letting me know.  I really thought it was just repeats.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 04:24 PM (/IWYB)

746 678
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 30, 2013 09:11 PM (28TG+)

Kind of the point CAC made way upthread just before he told a few to kiss his 28 year old ass.

Posted by: Joethefatman (@joethefatman1) at August 30, 2013 04:24 PM (MnSla)

747 >I don't think cicadas can bite, AtC. No need to worry about them.
Now, I hope you aren't locked out.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 09:22 PM (XntP1)


oh no-- AtC, cicadas are spiders THAT CAN FLY

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 04:24 PM (8sCoq)

748 Jones - Have you been washing Harley parts in the dishwasher again?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 30, 2013 04:24 PM (aDwsi)

749

Now everybody remember the most important information we have learned today.

 

Fluffy is a male.

 

No good deed is a female.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 04:24 PM (LI48c)

750

#733 Fox Soccer is being converted into FXX because in America kicking a ball around for hours only to end in a tie while your fans beat the shit out of each other is really fucking boring (except for the hooligan riots, those are always worth a LUL),

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 04:24 PM (fRlGp)

751 wow. Now clear this up for me. by the way this is not sarcasm; that was a real really and real wow. They keep saying it's going to be on FXX. (still not sarcasm; when I heard it was going to be on FXX i assumed they meant REPEATS of season 8.) What is FXX? Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 09:17 PM (/IWYB) Looking through my listings, the new Sunny In Philly show is on Wednesday night on the Fox Soccer Channel(!)

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 04:24 PM (dw9bg)

752 Ace is the old foggey that he hates...or attracts in some areas.

Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2013 04:24 PM (r2PLg)

753 I thought this post was hilarious, enlightening, and good.

I come to AoSHQ for the full spectrum of Ace postings, not just Obama bashing.

You new kids do know Ace was funneh even before any of us had heard of Obama, right?

Posted by: xbradtc at August 30, 2013 04:24 PM (+FFD7)

754 Don't you some of you fuckers understand why all of those "Progressive" cartoons on Comedy Central die after one or three seasons?

They've Got Nothing on TRUTH!

When Kyle, the Jew, "took the foul" for all man's credit-sins?  When Satan teamed up, (in ghey), with Saddam Hussein?  Cartman's anti-hero stature when mowing down hippies? 

This shit is winnable.  Writers and creators may be locked out, lest they understand popular culture.  Blindfolds and myopic views of society will be the death of liberty.

...mark my words.

Posted by: Slapweasel at August 30, 2013 04:25 PM (lq3Ak)

755 >>>FX is supposed to be for the network's dramas ("Justified," "American Horror Story," "The Americans," etc.), while FXX is going to be handling the comedies (like "It's Always Sunny," "The League," whatever the hell Charlie Sheen is on, etc.)

okay i don't see why but I'll go along with their Stupid Plan Which Is Doomed To Fail and Make Me Look Up a New Channel


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 04:25 PM (/IWYB)

756 Ace should watch that Slow Loris video if he hasn't already. Too cute.

Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2013 04:25 PM (5H6zj)

757 High school girl still at home so I get the pop dreck a lot and a group of them are going to a movie tonight by boyband One Direction -- yawn.  My version of 'get off my lawn' is if I have a group in the mommyvan getting girly shreiky I threaten them with gawdawful Puccini arias or me singing along to Handel operas.  Current fave that I can tolerate is an indie pop youngster from NZ, Lorde.   

Posted by: Mustbequantum at August 30, 2013 04:25 PM (MIKMs)

758 I don't think cicadas can bite, AtC. No need to worry about them.
Now, I hope you aren't locked out. Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 09:22 PM (XntP1)



I did think that far ahead, so, no, I'm not.


I don't mind that it's alive so long as it's alive Not By Me. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 04:25 PM (Gk3SS)

759 730 But ace,in fairness,that was a very small percentage of your readership.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 04:25 PM (dBYCN)

760 Kind of the point CAC made way upthread just before he told a few to kiss his 28 year old ass.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at August 30, 2013 09:24 PM (MnSla)

My ass-kiss demand was really to remind the lot of you that you are really, really old.

 

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 04:25 PM (fRlGp)

761 >Jones - Have you been washing Harley parts in the dishwasher again?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 30, 2013 09:24 PM (aDwsi)


if they fit, yeah

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 04:26 PM (8sCoq)

762 The worst part about cicadas is that once they latch into your skin, you have to scrape them off with sharp knife.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 30, 2013 04:26 PM (aDwsi)

763 737 FX is supposed to be for the network's dramas ("Justified," "American Horror Story," "The Americans," etc.), while FXX is going to be handling the comedies (like "It's Always Sunny," "The League," whatever the hell Charlie Sheen is on, etc.)

Posted by: Synnerman at August 30, 2013 09:23 PM (0Bdlg)

 

So pretty much Fox is going to copy the TBS/TNT method.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 04:26 PM (LI48c)

764 >My ass-kiss demand wasreally toremind the lot of you that you are really, really old.

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 09:25 PM (fRlGp)


and one day you will be, too. God willing.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 04:27 PM (8sCoq)

765 My ass-kiss demand wasreally toremind the lot of you that you are really, really old. Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 09:25 PM (fRlGp) The fuck I am.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 30, 2013 04:27 PM (GEICT)

766 Did I mention that my vacuum is bagless? I leave the vacuum on and hold the end of the attachment thingy (technical term) against the ceiling for a good 30 seconds to make sure the creature doesn't swarm out after me. Then I check the container. Ha ha ha ha. Poor thing. Spends 13 or 17 years hibernating underground, waiting to get laid just once. After his friends found out he got captured by a girl with a vacuum? Forget it.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 30, 2013 04:27 PM (X9Mnx)

767 I've been to an Arby's that ran out of beef, and a Taco Bell that was out of tortillas. I will never go to Roscoe’s with you.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 30, 2013 04:27 PM (CeNUw)

768 Thank you, Vendette. I'd tell you my age but I'm afraid I would be one of those old fogeys ace is sick of! So let's pretend I'm 30. ;-) Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2013 09:23 PM (5H6zj) You are to be worshiped by the Moron Horde.

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 04:27 PM (dw9bg)

769 Looking through my listings, the new Sunny In Philly show is on Wednesday night on the Fox Soccer Channel(!)

Posted by: Vendette at August 30, 2013 09:24 PM (dw9bg)

 

It looks like the name change doesn't occur until September 2.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 04:27 PM (LI48c)

770 >>>I think when people say Get Off My Damn Lawn stuff like "I don't care about this" and "I stopped paying attention to music after rap got popular" and such like they're simply saying "Yes, I find this subject daunting because I am disconnected from the culture due to my responsibilities and interests. This song does not appeal to me," with the unspoken subtext being "but it's good to learn about this since it is an important aspect of the current culture."

it was more than that.

in addition, frankly, I don't know why people think their negative, predictable, critical, kneejerk reactions to everything are so endlessly fascinating as to deserve far and wide publicity on the internet.

That shit is for youtube comments.

seriously, "Granny Liberty," I would have had NO IDEA that you found this subject and my post "unworthy" had you not had the thoughtfulness to so inform me.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 04:28 PM (/IWYB)

771 UGAdawg: "I watched the video because of this post; video was so strange I only masturbated to it twice."

Besides the movie reviews, this is why I love this blog. It's just one of those surprise endings that catches you off-guard.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 30, 2013 04:28 PM (eHIJJ)

772 Fluffy is male. no good deed is female. --- And Neidermeyer's Dead Horse is neither dead nor a horse. Y'all give yourselves some funny names round here.

Posted by: Jenny Hates All The Things at August 30, 2013 04:28 PM (GmTxn)

773 What's "the culture" that's worth winning?  This is coming from a guy who wore a three-piece light blue polyester suit in the '70s.

Posted by: mrp at August 30, 2013 04:28 PM (HjPtV)

774

The original Ace was way funnier.

 

...and I would hate to see the 'Who reads the Posts?' bit die.  

 I always thought that was about as funny as it got around here.  Lord knows Breitbart found it amusing.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 04:28 PM (XntP1)

775 Happy happy Y-Not!


AtC....

*wheezing*

....I...read that to...my wife....

*doubled over in laughter*

.....she's laughing too... Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 30, 2013 09:21 PM (GEICT)



I want complete and total credit for being able to reach the ceiling with the attachment thingy without needing the Awesome Stepstool of Awesomeness.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 04:29 PM (Gk3SS)

776 seriously, "Granny Liberty," I would have had NO IDEA that you found this subject and my post "unworthy" had you not had the thoughtfulness to so inform me.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 09:28 PM (/IWYB)

 

She's never been here before either.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 04:29 PM (LI48c)

777 Am I crazy or is ace just digging the hole deeper with the help of some that remind me of the dem journalists currently spouting off. I am drunk. But who knows

Posted by: crazy guy at August 30, 2013 04:29 PM (V+Pei)

778 My ass-kiss demand was really to remind the lot of you that you are really, really old.
--------------

Which is only relevant in the context that, so far, I have outlived you...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 30, 2013 04:29 PM (aDwsi)

779 >>.754 730 But ace,in fairness,that was a very small percentage of your readership.

sure. but you remember the ones who gave you the finger, not the ones who waved hello.

I'm ignoring a bunch of nice posts because 1, I'm so angry at the kneejerk Gotta Get My Critical Kneejerk Reaction Out brigade, and also 2, I think they just feel pressured now to say something nice.

But for the people saying nice things: Thank you, whether you mean it or I bullied you into it.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 04:30 PM (/IWYB)

780 I want complete and total credit for being able to reach the ceiling with the attachment thingy without needing the Awesome Stepstool of Awesomeness. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 09:29 PM (Gk3SS) Fine. I award you a little credit.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 30, 2013 04:30 PM (GEICT)

781  

   Been old so long I no longer care.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 30, 2013 04:30 PM (SAMxH)

782 "okay i don't see why but I'll go along with their Stupid Plan Which Is Doomed To Fail and Make Me Look Up a New Channel" Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 09:25 PM (/IWYB) My understanding is that they want to branch out with more original programming. They decided that FX will be the more "mature" channel, basically for the over 40 crowd, while FXX is more more edgy, under 40 crowd. Fox Soccer was a bit of a dud, so they basically get to salvage the channel for their more successful shows.

Posted by: Synnerman at August 30, 2013 04:31 PM (0Bdlg)

783 'Who reads the Posts?'
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Is that the password phrase for the liquor locker?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 30, 2013 04:31 PM (aDwsi)

784 Ace the fact that we are here,many of us every single day,should be a clue that we really like you.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 04:32 PM (dBYCN)

785 664 Selena Gomez is looking to shed her Disney. So, keep your eyes peeled. You may see boobehs soon. Posted by: no good deed at August 30, 2013 09:08 PM (WmLrU) Ugh how do I know these things. . . she was in the Disney Show Wizards of Waverly Place. Shot up her fame by dating the Bieber forever. Was squeaky clean but like Miley is looking to grow up way too fast. Was just in a raunchy movie called "Spring Breakers" where if she does not bear boobs, is most likely in a bathing suit the whole time. Her current big song on the radio that repeats the line "If you're ready come and get it" a million times and yes, that refers to sex. She is just as look-at-me as Miley but somehow Miley snatched away the slutty crown, oh yays. Ok, dinner over, back to drawing and not procrastinating, no, not me!

Posted by: LizLem, who owns a lawn and is not afraid to tell twentysomething hipsters to get off it at August 30, 2013 04:32 PM (8wqqE)

786 I want complete and total credit for being able to reach the ceiling with the attachment thingy without needing the Awesome Stepstool of Awesomeness. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 09:29 PM (Gk3SS) How long was the attachment?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 30, 2013 04:32 PM (NLqIR)

787 I've been in front of live crowds.  You never know the mix of people who may attend.  You've got to put yourself  "out there" before you figure out your audience.

Sometimes you "soft-sell", sometimes you DRIVE THAT SHIT HOME.

Figure out the navigation through the culture, and you've got a successful "cause".

...you don't even have to sell bullshit through linguistics and lexicon.  It starts selling itself after ten minutes.

Posted by: Slapweasel at August 30, 2013 04:32 PM (lq3Ak)

788 TRUTH===> ...in America kicking a ball around for hours only to end in a tie while your fans beat the shit out of each other is really fucking boring

Posted by: ChampionCapua at August 30, 2013 04:33 PM (KZi9D)

789 But for the people saying nice things: Thank you, whether you mean it or I bullied you into it. Your shot across the bow was just muscular enough...

Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2013 04:33 PM (FcR7P)

790 Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 09:25 PM (fRlGp)

Just because there's a 20 year age diffe.... Fuck I am old. Get over here and mow my grass ya young pup! lol

Posted by: Joethefatman (@joethefatman1) at August 30, 2013 04:33 PM (MnSla)

791 ace, my parents have Directv.   I have TimeWarner.   My parents call me up like three or four times a week to ask what channel something is on.   As a result, I now know the Directv channel directory better than my own.


Also, my subcochal region is filled with glee that Fox Soccer failed.   Ahahahahahahahaha.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 04:33 PM (Gk3SS)

792

@765 Ace

Some of us enjoyed the post (and the vid--especially the vid) even if we're too old to "get it." I suppose the other subtext is a simple sigh that we're getting to the age where we realize we're not part of the "with it" crowd anymore. It's not criticism of you; it's nostalgia.

Posted by: RS at August 30, 2013 04:33 PM (YAGV/)

793 755 My ass-kiss demand was really to remind the lot of you that you are really, really old. Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 09:25 PM (fRlGp) Actually, I'm glad to hear that. It gives me hope. I frequently worry that only old fossils like me read conservative blogs. We need to invite more young'uns onto our lawn.

Posted by: rickl at August 30, 2013 04:33 PM (sdi6R)

794 >>>She's never been here before either.

I'm picking on her because she's an outsider.

I'm more pissed at the insiders like CharlieBrownsDildo.

I'm pissed at Joe What About Syria, whoever the fuck that was.

I'm pissed at people who saw this was a long post and therefore one that took time and decided to comment, critically, without even tossing me the respect of reading it, or, if they found it wanting, could not managed to just keep their critical clucking tongues quiet for once.

I'm pissed at the general attitude of rejectivism of virtually everything on the Approved List of Things Conservatives are Allowed to Like.

I'm pissed at people who trash the Gamer's thread because they have to let those guys know That They Don't Like Games.

I'm just really, really tired.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 04:34 PM (/IWYB)

795 "But for the people saying nice things: Thank you, whether you mean it or I bullied you into it."

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 09:30 PM (/IWYB)

Here's the secret:  I do not care either way.

Posted by: Slapweasel at August 30, 2013 04:34 PM (lq3Ak)

796 BTW, I want to echo some of the earlier posters regarding "The World's End." Saw it twice so far and it might be my favorite film of the year. Fantastically funny and insightful. Plus, the second viewing allows you find all kinds of hidden easter eggs and foreshadowing sprinkled throughout.

Posted by: Synnerman at August 30, 2013 04:34 PM (0Bdlg)

797 Well, Issa is trying to Win the Culture War: @DarrellIssa "Kitteh can't keep health plan, kitteh not pleased" #fridaykitty #obamacare pic.twitter.com/L1DSPKKpoU

Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2013 04:34 PM (5H6zj)

798 Thanks for this post, Ace.  I heard this song and heard it was popular and possibly stealing, but I didn't know the rest of this.  I could never hear any lyrics past "Hey hey hey." 

It just seemed like a stupid song.  Now it's another great distraction that this county doesn't need.

Posted by: Shoot Me at August 30, 2013 04:34 PM (qiXMt)

799 But for the people saying nice things: Thank you, whether you mean it or I bullied you into it. Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 09:30 PM (/IWYB) For the record, the post was hilarious, and damning, even though I did not listen to the song and probably won't. I *really* don't care about pop culture, but that means I'm not reflexively against it. I like things I like, and not. I listen to Enya-style music and Dubstep. PS there is no good Dubstep of Enya. Why? I do not know.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 30, 2013 04:34 PM (NLqIR)

800 FUCK YOU OUTSIDE. FUCK. YOU.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 09:17 PM (Gk3SS)



No lie - when I worked out at Camp Dearborn many years ago we had a problem with earwigs.  One camper asked me what should she do besides spraying kill-bug-death at them.  I said "Wear flat shoes." and demonstrated technique.


That did not go over real well.


When dealing with the outside always wear flat-soled stompy shoes.  The crunchy sound is just a bonus.

Posted by: Mikey NTH Spittle-Flecked Diatribes Now 25% Off! at August 30, 2013 04:35 PM (gmoEG)

801 >I'm ignoring a bunch of nice posts because 1, I'm so angry at the kneejerk Gotta Get My Critical Kneejerk Reaction Out brigade, and also 2, I think they just feel pressured now to say something nice.


but why are you so angry? You're on Breitbart, you're a regular fixture on Twitchy, you've been recognized by the blogosphere for your blogging prowess. Why the volcanic eruption over a few negative comments? What's eating you, man?

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 04:35 PM (8sCoq)

802 >>>I think when people say Get Off My Damn Lawn stuff like "I don't care about this" and "I stopped paying attention to music after rap got popular" and such like they're simply saying "Yes, I find this subject daunting because I am disconnected from the culture due to my responsibilities and interests. This song does not appeal to me," with the unspoken subtext being "but it's good to learn about this since it is an important aspect of the current culture."

But I don't really think this is true at all.  Maybe it is for you, in which case good for you.  But a lot of those comments are more like "what awful garbage, pop culture is such filth" or "Let it burn, America is doomed" or "how can you listen to this shit music, this is beneath you."

It's sad because we just come across like a bunch of grumpy old humorless men.  That's not my self-image, and it shouldn't be anyone else's, even if they ARE grumpy old humorless men.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 04:35 PM (n/+FT)

803 I'm more pissed at the insiders like CharlieBrownsDildo. Ok, I missed that. What did CBD do?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 30, 2013 04:35 PM (GEICT)

804 But for the people saying nice things: Thank you, whether you mean it or I bullied you into it.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 09:30 PM (/IWYB)


If I didn't mean it I wouldn't have come crawling to be unbanned. You're a truly funny dude and I appreciate that.

Posted by: Joethefatman (@joethefatman1) at August 30, 2013 04:36 PM (MnSla)

805 781 I want complete and total credit for being able to reach the ceiling with the attachment thingy without needing the Awesome Stepstool of Awesomeness. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 09:29 PM (Gk3SS) How long was the attachment? Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 30, 2013 09:32 PM (NLqIR) --- That's what she said.

Posted by: Gingy at August 30, 2013 04:36 PM (aH+zP)

806

I don't know why no one could figure out that the Liquor cabinet code phrase would be "Barack Obama is a Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Malignant Traitor"

 

 

Duh, its AllenG

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 04:36 PM (LI48c)

807

>>> I'm just really, really tired.

 

 

Tell me about it.

 

Posted by: Madeline Kahn at August 30, 2013 04:36 PM (XntP1)

808 "sometimes you DRIVE THAT SHIT HOME."

Okay, I'll admit it - I owned a Plymouth Horizon.  It lasted forever, with 268,000 miles - original engine.  So, no need to get personal.

Posted by: mrp at August 30, 2013 04:36 PM (HjPtV)

809 Anyway,ace has blown up at us on several occasions.Remember the comments were going to require registration?

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 04:37 PM (dBYCN)

810 FUCK ALL THE THINGS

Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 04:37 PM (fRlGp)

811 >>>Some of us enjoyed the post (and the vid--especially the vid) even if we're too old to "get it." I suppose the other subtext is a simple sigh that we're getting to the age where we realize we're not part of the "with it" crowd anymore. It's not criticism of you; it's nostalgia.

I don't care about that for god's sakes.  I heard of this song 24 hours ago.

I'm pissed that I wrote a post I was VERY PROUD OF because it was FUNNY and what some people chose to tell me was "I don't like pop music so this post was unworthy."

WHO GIVES A FUCK?  WHO ASKED THAT QUESTION?

And this sort of makes me wonder how funny I am: Apparently the clapper stuff about obama is always a hit, but when I suddenly move into a Non-Obama-Bashing Area, suddenly I'm not funny.

Which means I'm not actually funny.

Because anyone can get clapper claps.

So whatever.  Maybe the fault is with me. Maybe This site is just all Clapper Jokes About Obama.

Maybe I'll just stick to what I'm  horrified to learn I'm good at.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 04:37 PM (/IWYB)

812 >>>She's never been here before either.

Yeah, but she clearly has.  Referred to Ewoks and Charles Johnson -- she knows the memes, whether she's not a regular commenter or is a regular intentionally using a different IP address.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 04:38 PM (n/+FT)

813 Whatever. I wrote a piece I thought was funny and I presented it to people and rather than reading it they decided to say "What about syria?" It was funny. Plus: boobs. The "I'm taking by ball and going home" response to the humorless scolds is unpleasant to see though. You have a talent for insulting people. If someone pisses you off, employ it.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 30, 2013 04:38 PM (X9Mnx)

814 Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2013 09:16 PM (5H6zj) That sounds absolutely marvelous! Have a wonderful birthday, you deserve it!!!

Posted by: LizLem, who owns a lawn and is not afraid to tell twentysomething hipsters to get off it at August 30, 2013 04:39 PM (8wqqE)

815 you don't see comments hit 800 often. congrats ace. you did your job and we all enjoyed it. got our minds off the loop for a bit didn't it?

Posted by: observant guy at August 30, 2013 04:39 PM (V+Pei)

816

I'm more pissed at the insiders like CharlieBrownsDildo.

 

He was just upset you didn't spend enough time focusing on the brunette.  Like the video.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 04:39 PM (LI48c)

817 I only declare war on two classes of Insecta; Mosquitos and Cockroaches. (Sometimes flies if they become annoying or are biters).

I love spiders and centipedes and millipedes as they EAT other insects and their larvae. Yum Yum.


I understand the ickiness but not the fear.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 30, 2013 04:39 PM (28TG+)

818 >I'm pissed at people who saw this was a long post and therefore one that took time and decided to comment, critically, without even tossing me the respect of reading it, or, if they found it wanting, could not managed to just keep their critical clucking tongues quiet for once.


FTR, I read the whole post and watched the video. Other than the titties, the rest of it just wasn't in my wheelhouse. That's not a knock on me or you. Robin Thicke just isn't on my radar.

I don't read the game thread because I don't play games. I don't read the gun thread because, I don't know, I have nothing to add to that. I have 3 guns, I shoot them sometimes, end of story.

Turn off the pc. Have a nice weekend.

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 04:40 PM (8sCoq)

819 >>Your shot across the bow was just muscular enough... *golf clap*

Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2013 04:40 PM (5H6zj)

820 FUCK ALL THE THINGS Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2013 09:37 PM (fRlGp)


RAAAAACCCCIIIIIISSSSTTTT

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at August 30, 2013 04:40 PM (Gk3SS)

821 "I'm pissed at the general attitude of rejectivism of virtually everything on the Approved List of Things Conservatives are Allowed to Like."



I have this thing I do where I don't read posts where I am not interested in the subject matter, and I don't read comments from commenters I do not like.  Strange enough, it works in keeping me happy.

That and the beer.

Posted by: Mikey NTH Spittle-Flecked Diatribes Now 25% Off! at August 30, 2013 04:40 PM (gmoEG)

822

seriously, "Granny Liberty," I would have had NO IDEA that you found this subject and my post "unworthy" had you not had the thoughtfulness to so inform me.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 09:28 PM (/IWYB)

 

Yeah, expressing an opinion in the comments section of a blog post, what an exotic concept. Though I havent actually written a single word about your post, merely about the subject. You could have taken that as a compliment, but you decided to throw a ridiculous fit and that you might give up on conservatism.

Posted by: Granny Liberty at August 30, 2013 04:40 PM (lHJyk)

823 Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 09:34 PM (/IWYB)

I suppose that's your responsibility.  You deserve that option to "Give Hell" to those whose passing views are surface-silly.

I do that within a highly competitive Fantasy Baseball League all the time.

"I just don't like those sorts of trades" PISSES ME OFF more than anything else.  The ignorance involved in that statement, with NO mathematical or "impact Value" leaves me wanting.

I react in the same manner, in private, with those individuals.  Sometimes, I have to MAKE A FUCKING POINT, however.

We've been cohesive since 2000.  We've had five members leave and the list of those who want to join are GREATER.

---run a tight ship and enjoy more than destroy.  That's my motto.

Posted by: Slapweasel at August 30, 2013 04:41 PM (lq3Ak)

824 Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 09:37 PM (/IWYB) I found it funny. I'm also glad to see a post other than the Trials and Tribulations of US under our Dysfunctional Government. It's a nice change. I just don't comment much because I'm overly verbose and I take forever to compose a response.

Posted by: Ragamuffin at August 30, 2013 04:41 PM (fzFF6)

825 I'm just catching up (had to fit in watching the chelsea/munich soccer match we recorded! Great match.) And, great post, Ace. RE all the back and forth, Ace is right (as usual); Know thy enemy, while having fun in the knoweth department. Negativity will destroya. We're not all closed minded, Ace. I would vote to not move the post. These are the reasons I come here. Don't stop. There are a lot of people who come here, and just do not post a comment. Way more than the naysayers. Blow it off your shoulder, Ace. Cultivate more comers. But, what I really want to know is... If it's so big and thicke, why not show it? Talk about a reverse tease. Coward. Show us what you got, baby, and let us decide.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 30, 2013 04:41 PM (IXrOn)

826


Maybe I'll just stick to what I'm horrified to learn I'm good at.

 

 

Shut the fuck up.  You can't make a living sleeping till noon and  fapping. 

 

You wrote the Riptide Thread...

AND worked in Blackie Lawless!?  That's fucking art.  You need to knock this shit out and get back to being a little more goofy.   

Because that's who you are, man.

 

 

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 04:41 PM (XntP1)

827 I love ace's trantrums. New York style.

Posted by: chango butt at August 30, 2013 04:42 PM (qQk+U)

828 By-the-by, #816 was me being somewhat silly.


Put down th

Posted by: Mikey NTH Spittle-Flecked Diatribes Now 25% Off! at August 30, 2013 04:43 PM (gmoEG)

829 Just seeing this thread now, but I'm sort of shocked that people (meaning enough to make it #1) like this song.  It's just so.... I don't know, bland.  I thought it was a boring song *with* the bouncing bewbehs.

I'm not saying that as a hating-new-music crank because there are some new songs I find catchy.

Posted by: JohnE. at August 30, 2013 04:43 PM (nRTou)

830 Not like Ace ever reads my comments anyway, but if he does I hope he does realize that one of the dangers of admitting what he did in #806 is that it makes him *extremely easy* to troll in the future.  All some asshole (who might even be a lib who hates your guts for all I know) needs to do is come in here immediately after you've posted something pop culture/funny and start in on this "THIS IS SO IRRELEVANT" schtick and he now knows he's going to get a rise out of you. 

I dunno, just doesn't hurt to be self-aware here.  Sometimes people insult you because it makes them feel good to actually get a rise out of someone.  Thus the Internet Troll.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 04:43 PM (n/+FT)

831 Yeah, expressing an opinion in the comments section of a blog post, what an exotic concept. Though I havent actually written a single word about your post, merely about the subject. You could have taken that as a compliment, but you decided to throw a ridiculous fit and that you might give up on conservatism.

Posted by: Granny Liberty at August 30, 2013 09:40 PM (lHJyk

 

Get bent you bitter old scold.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 04:43 PM (LI48c)

832 >>>Posted by: Granny Liberty at August 30, 2013 09:40 PM (lHJyk)

Seriously, go the fuck away.  If people can say it to me all the time, I'm happy to say it to you in far more justifiable circumstances.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 04:44 PM (n/+FT)

833

Yeah, fuck off Granny...

 and take JeffB with you!

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 04:45 PM (XntP1)

834

See you're making jeff b agree with me.

 

Go away.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 04:45 PM (LI48c)

835 >>Maybe I'll just stick to what I'm horrified to learn I'm good at. Pretty sure I told you that just he opposite was true. You're a damn good writer but you're no more politically astute than half the people here. But funny, yea, you're funny. And good at writing + funny is a pretty rare thing. But what the hell do I know.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2013 04:46 PM (g1DWB)

836 Yeah Granny get outta here ..  you are not part of the echo chamber/circle jerk.

Posted by: chango butt at August 30, 2013 04:46 PM (qQk+U)

837 oh what fresh hell is this

Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 04:47 PM (8sCoq)

838 "I'm just really, really tired."

Now did you say that to yourself in a Northern accent, no accent or a fake Hillary "Ahm jus' rilly, rilly tarred" accent?

You should know by now that lots of folks show up long after a post has been up and maybe scan a few lines to guess what it's about and then jump into the comments.

I consider it a feature not a bug.

Without the posts there would be fewer comments but it's the comments that usually always make our day.

And you make me laugh and think and sometimes both at the same time.

I wish I could afford to demonstrate in a more concrete way my appreciation for your efforts.

Never, NEVER think they are unappreciated. Even if they're are criticized. Everyone's a critic. It takes guts and nerve to create and then let the world judge.

Bravo maestro.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at August 30, 2013 04:47 PM (28TG+)

839 On the plus side, now my hubby is horny. ta-ta

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 30, 2013 04:47 PM (IXrOn)

840 Ace, you're problem with not mentioning Syria in this post stems from the fact o perhaps doesn't stem from this at all) that you have a song called "Blurred lines" that is popular at the same moment that the NYT says we need to restore the red lines that have been blurred. Clearly Robin Thicke went into his Canadian Time machine (TM) and wrote a song to influence the debate. Robin Thicke wants us to bomb Syria. We must unblur the red line by banging sexy red headed minxes..and by bombing Syria.

Posted by: taylork at August 30, 2013 04:48 PM (ppNDn)

841 Ace,

I wasn't wild about the song, or the video (buy yeah, that brunette/red, she's stunning, mesmerizing).

But I thought your post was hilarious. And I mentioned that at The Splitters, who told me about the "controversy."

Trust me, a lot of us get tired of the same old bash Obama stuff.

Posted by: xbradtc at August 30, 2013 04:48 PM (+FFD7)

842 Speaking of embracing what all the younguns are into. . . has anyone here listened to "Welcome to Nightvale"? Is the current #1 podcast on iTunes, is currently huge among the middle school to college age set. If you had told me a podcast that is the equivalent of an old school radio show about a Orwellian, Lovecraftian, Area 51-type town would be the thing all the kids are into, I never would have believed it. I'm sure the big draw is that the main character is gay, and that is the least weird thing in the town, and he gets a love interest. But the writing is humorous, if a bit dry. Between Nightvale and the hugeness of Hunger Games, I'm glad kids are getting into dystopian fiction; if it makes them question the government in any way, excellent. http://preview.tinyurl.com/plg8m93

Posted by: LizLem, who owns a lawn and is not afraid to tell twentysomething hipsters to get off it at August 30, 2013 04:48 PM (8wqqE)

843 nood

Posted by: chango butt at August 30, 2013 04:50 PM (qQk+U)

844 Well I hope you all have taken this lesson in how the horde can split on a single issue even when we are really so much alike. That's life. Welcome.

Posted by: observant guy at August 30, 2013 04:51 PM (V+Pei)

845 Maybe I'll just stick to what I'm horrified to learn I'm good at.
Posted by: ace
-----------------------

Ye Gads! Man.
It's the Friday evening of a 3 day weekend. People are tired. We are assaulted by life/society destroying outrages everyday. The options are to poke fun at what we CAN poke fun at, or experience brain explosions.

The truth is, your blog is place of sanctuary..., a place where people vent. There is are plenty of comedic cheap shots taken..., and certainly some at yourself. In point of fact, we all make targets of ourselves to one degree or another. If you believe that because of our posts, you are not taken seriously, then you are mistaken.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 30, 2013 04:51 PM (aDwsi)

846 I picked up a new album (yes, I still buy the whole album) on iTunes by Skylar Grey.  Marshall Mathers produced it and appeared on one of the songs.  It's called Come On Let Me Ride.  I can't help but think of Melanie Safka's Brand New Key every time I hear.  Similar subject matter as it were. 

Posted by: no good deed at August 30, 2013 04:51 PM (WmLrU)

847 I think you may have hit the mark best with the gaming thread comment. The fact that someone would actually post a comment in a thread they have no interest in to say they have no interest in that topic is bizarre and attention seeking. Or it might be sociopathic if I knew what that word meant.

I can see why that would irk. Be irksome. Have an irkish intent. Or at least I think it would, if I knew what irksome meant.

Posted by: flashbazzbo, s.e. at August 30, 2013 04:52 PM (2yZsg)

848 But seriously, I would love Ace to spend twice (maybe three times) as much time on pop culture stuff as he currently does. It's actually a huge strength of his. As usual, Jeff B., is wrong. Pop culture stuff isn't *a* huge strength of Ace's, it's *the* huge strength of Ace's. Anybody remember Pat O'Brien? "You gotta be into Betsy too?" I guess nowadays we'd all be riffing on that and "Granny Liberty" would be choking on her Metamucil. As far as the post itself, there's a lovely 10-minute live jam by Dweezil Zappa I got off Napster back when it was scary that's a bunch of 80s hits slapped together. They play the exact same thing for "New Drug" and "Ghostbusters" and swap the lyrics back and forth between the two songs and it all just fits. Now when I hear the actual songs I can't unhear the similarities. George Harrison's ripoff is when the background singers sing "Hal-le-lu-jiah" - it's done to the same melody as the chorus of "He's So Fine".

Posted by: Ian S. at August 30, 2013 04:53 PM (OevbG)

849 nood

Posted by: chango butt at August 30, 2013 04:53 PM (qQk+U)

850 I just want to point out that this was a truly hilarious line from this post that nobody gave any credit for:

>>>And White People are of course lining up to swear that Blurred Lines sounds nothing like Got to Give It Up with all the passion and intensity of Robin Thicke's lawyers.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 04:53 PM (n/+FT)

851 813 I don't read the game thread because I don't play games. I don't read the gun thread because, I don't know, I have nothing to add to that. I have 3 guns, I shoot them sometimes, end of story. Posted by: Jones in CO at August 30, 2013 09:40 PM (8sCoq) I think the various specialized threads are a great feature of this site. I'm not a gamer, so I don't comment on the game thread, unless there is a particularly fetching cosplayer featured. Same goes for the football threads and the cheerleaders. I used to own guns, before the obligatory tragic canoe accident, but I usually don't have much to say on those threads either. I like CAC's astronomy threads, even though I don't do much actual observing these days. I think it's cool that people with various interests can have dedicated threads around here.

Posted by: rickl at August 30, 2013 04:53 PM (sdi6R)

852 Jones in CO: "oh no-- AtC, cicadas are spiders THAT CAN FLY"

Don't they have multiple layers of teeth like sharks and a hornet-like stingers? And hone in on CO2 like mosquitos?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 30, 2013 04:55 PM (eHIJJ)

853 Posted by: Granny Liberty at August 30, 2013 (lHJyk) NOT ENOUGH SUCK-UP ... you're still ban-inatored ... and I bid you adieu. ... eleventy ...

Posted by: Larches Sojnnoh at August 30, 2013 04:56 PM (FlRtG)

854 I found this post to be pop-culturally relevant to my generation! 

Posted by: Phinn at August 30, 2013 04:56 PM (oFH2D)

855

Who is this ace fellow you all are carrying on about?

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at August 30, 2013 04:57 PM (jucos)

856 Posted by: rickl at August 30, 2013 09:53 PM (sdi6R)


What ^he^ said.

Posted by: Joethefatman (@joethefatman1) at August 30, 2013 04:58 PM (MnSla)

857 I'm pissed at people who trash the Gamer's thread because they have to let those guys know That They Don't Like Games. For the record, I think the gaming thread sucks because it's objectively awful. If you don't give a shit about EVE and you aren't a raving Microsoft fanboy, it rarely contains any content of use to you. If it were renamed the EVE and Ballmer thread, I'd be fine with that.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 30, 2013 05:03 PM (OevbG)

858 >> Remember the comments were going to require registration? #TwoWeeks

Posted by: Andy at August 30, 2013 05:03 PM (li+aS)

859 rickl: "We need to invite more young'uns onto our lawn."

If they mow it first, sure. Why not.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 30, 2013 05:04 PM (eHIJJ)

860 I thought ace was taking this terrible post down.

Posted by: Purity Republican at August 30, 2013 05:05 PM (qRasw)

861 850 rickl: "We need to invite more young'uns onto our lawn." If they mow it first, sure. Why not. Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 30, 2013 10:04 PM (eHIJJ) Yes. As I am finding yardwork increasingly distasteful, that should be our credo.

Posted by: rickl at August 30, 2013 05:07 PM (sdi6R)

862 Wow 800+ posts It is good to have fun with something other than the usual crapola coming out of Washington, isn't it? A politics free holiday weekend would be a relief.

Posted by: Tuna at August 30, 2013 05:09 PM (M/TDA)

863 in addition, frankly, I don't know why people think their negative, predictable, critical, kneejerk reactions to everything are so endlessly fascinating as to deserve far and wide publicity on the internet.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 09:28 PM (/IWYB)



For some people this blog is their social life. They want to say something in the top thread to get noticed, but the topic doesn't interest them and they have nothing to say. So they say "This topic doesn't interest me and I have nothing to say. Let's talk about something else."

Posted by: schizoid at August 30, 2013 05:09 PM (AtoRD)

864 >> I think it's cool that people with various interests can have dedicated threads around here. Yup. Hell, I write the gun thread and rarely poke my head into the other ones. You don't have to comment on just the top thread, folks. We have open threads every day. And every night. Oh, and speaking of the GUN THREAD!!11!, I'm going to change it up a little this weekend. It's going to be an in-depth exploration of several aspects of a reader email that I'm sure will generate a good discussion.

Posted by: Andy at August 30, 2013 05:14 PM (li+aS)

865 >>>I think you may have hit the mark best with the gaming thread comment. The fact that someone would actually post a comment in a thread they have no interest in to say they have no interest in that topic is bizarre and attention seeking. Or it might be sociopathic if I knew what that word meant.

I don't get it.  As I said, conservatives have created a cult around the idea of rejectivism and unnecessary, unrequested critical comment.

Of course this is largely an INTERNET phenomenon, really.  And yet still, there's an extra kick in it for some, because they see it as "political" activity which is socially useful.

I am of dual minds of the conservative temperament (which, by the way, I share).  On one hand, I do like the I'm Going to Stick Up For Myself mentality, as opposed to the dweeby That's Cool Man collectivist impulse of leftists.

On the other hand-- would it kill the movement if we stopped Sticking Up For Our Values (Values Now Defined as Including Trivial Cultural Preferences as Well) and maybe occasionally adopted the That's Cool Man ethos?

I can't believe I'm going to say this -- I of all people! -- but do we really NEED to have hard, firm opinions on everything?

And if they're thoughtlessly, kneejerkedly critical -- do they REALLY require expression?

Can a critical thought ever be left in the head for a bit to be permitted a bit of reflection?

I think I mentioned this, but there was a story three months ago, about some Cuckold Couple -- married couple, dude gets off on watching his wife have sex with other guys. Wife loves it too. So she wrote a big article for like the NYT or New Yorker or something.

In the old days that would have been an automatic link for me.

But I didn't link it this time.  I passed.  I just thought, "Wait, does everything I say have to be sharply critical of other people?"  While there  are large numbers of things that a politically-active man MUST be critical of, do I really have to extend that basic critical impulse to everything?

Like, who cares if these strange people have weird sex?  What is going to accomplish for me to call them freaks?

They know they're freaks.

Anyway, I do not think this attitude of forever just automatically saying I DISAPPROVE! or even I'M OUTRAGED! is attractive at all.

No one cares about MY every critical impulse, and no one cares about every commetner's every critical reaction, either.

Sometimes, we can permit things which aren't to our taste to pass by unremarked upon.




Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 05:14 PM (/IWYB)

866 >>>Oh, and speaking of the GUN THREAD!!11!, I'm going to change it up a little this weekend. It's going to be an in-depth exploration of several aspects of a reader email that I'm sure will generate a good discussion.

NEEDS MOAR ROBIN THICKE

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 05:16 PM (/IWYB)

867 The asshole son of asshole Alan Thicke. Why is anyone surprised?

Posted by: Johnny65 at August 30, 2013 05:16 PM (HF2US)

868 >>>They want to say something in the top thread to get noticed, but the topic doesn't interest them and they have nothing to say. So they say "This topic doesn't interest me and I have nothing to say. Let's talk about something else."

it's annoying.  that sort of person would not be invited back to any real social gathering.

Attempting to derail a conversation just because one is not personally interested in the subject matter is rude, egotistical, and solipsistic.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 05:18 PM (/IWYB)

869 by the way I read all of Andy's gun threads.

It's just not my actual field of special interest.

But one can read things one isn't necessarily particularly interested in and enjoy learning someone, or someone's writing.

Make the quizzes easier though, man.  I need some BASIC stuff.  I'm zero and 40.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 05:20 PM (/IWYB)

870

I will say that there hasn't been much of an "ugh gaming thread" mentality that I've seen in the comments  lately.  At least one person that was a sourpuss about it has self banned herself.  And other seem to now steer clear of it.

 

Now as for whether the gaming thread itself has other issues, well that's separate, and since I'm not one writing for it and probably couldn't weekly, how I would do it is largely irrelevant.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 05:21 PM (LI48c)

871 andy do a quiz where you go, "Is this a rifle or not?"

I need to get one of these.  I need to at least get a cosmetic field goal.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 05:21 PM (/IWYB)

872 >> In the old days that would have been an automatic link for me. Like we talked about on the podcast, that's Slate's entire goddamned business model. When you've become so predictable that people just look at you and see a big dollar sign on your forehead, you might ought to engage in a little critical self-examination.

Posted by: Andy at August 30, 2013 05:21 PM (li+aS)

873 >> andy do a quiz where you go, "Is this a rifle or not?" Consider it done.

Posted by: Andy at August 30, 2013 05:22 PM (li+aS)

874 Come and knock on our door we've been waiting for you where the kisses are hers, and hers, and his Three's Company too! Life is a ball again laughter is calling for you

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875 >>>For the record, I think the gaming thread sucks because it's objectively awful. If you don't give a shit about EVE and you aren't a raving Microsoft fanboy, it rarely contains any content of use to you. If it were renamed the EVE and Ballmer thread, I'd be fine with that.

so critical.

Sorry that the guys doing it have their own particular tastes and don't play every single game like professionals paid to do so.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 05:23 PM (/IWYB)

876

Ace, I hope I didn't roll a Trojan Horse into your blog on  a friday night. It wasn't my intention. The truth, I check out this blog when I wake up and at mid day. It's the highlight of funny text and comments during the day.

 

New music and art, travel and poetry are the passion of the user. Without these choices we would be a dull lot. Wouldn't we? I hope you keep your wonderful blog in tact and stare down the trials of your perfections. 

Posted by: redenzo at August 30, 2013 05:24 PM (vx61Q)

877 And ace, really this post like the video itself did not spend nearly enough time focusing on that brunette.

Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2013 05:24 PM (LI48c)

878 it's annoying. that sort of person would not be invited back to any real social gathering.


It's annoying but I don't know what you can do about it. I guess my point is the commenter isn't necessarily saying that you shouldn't have written the post. He may just be expressing frustration at his own bad timing.

Posted by: schizoid at August 30, 2013 05:24 PM (AtoRD)

879 Is it your birthday soon, ace?

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 05:24 PM (XntP1)

880 ace: "Maybe I'll just stick to what I'm horrified to learn I'm good at."

Whoa now. Step away from the ledge, man.

You're funny. Very funny. And so are beaucoup commenters here at your priming. True, we are DOOOMED, but at the camps you'll always be a top jester.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 30, 2013 05:25 PM (eHIJJ)

881 >> NEEDS MOAR ROBIN THICKE I can't imagine the controversy that would erupt if we talked about why "Blurred Lines" is a much better song than "Get Lucky".

Posted by: Andy at August 30, 2013 05:26 PM (li+aS)

882 "As to "Let Us Talk of Many Things" indeed more faster, and if it be nasty and vulgar there is Valu in that too I suppose. I love Ace's brilliant writing and would pay him $100,000.00 for a screenplay of WFB that is hagiographic and stupid Idol worship, were I to have the money. But my heart is there. Mencken was a cunt first and foremost and we talk of him so why not Ace there?

Posted by: twoslaps at August 30, 2013 05:26 PM (nRgwi)

883 I swear that the way some people just casually snipe at fucking everything makes me really wonder what the fuck they're like in real life.

Actually I don't wonder.  I think I know.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 05:26 PM (/IWYB)

884 If anyone actually does want to get outraged about something now, hey look, WaPo thinks teachers should be able to have sex with their students who are minors!

http://ekdahl.co/12VsNbe

Posted by: JohnE. at August 30, 2013 05:28 PM (nRTou)

885 Good Night Ace. Andy and the rest. Ya'll have a great 3 day weekend.

Posted by: Joethefatman (@joethefatman1) at August 30, 2013 05:28 PM (MnSla)

886 >>>It's annoying but I don't know what you can do about it. I guess my point is the commenter isn't necessarily saying that you shouldn't have written the post. He may just be expressing frustration at his own bad timing.

It really is the equivalent of people who post "FIRST!" elsewhere on the internet.  It's a territory-marking act.  So stupid.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 05:29 PM (n/+FT)

887 is the idea that one should have a better reason to say something negative, especially about an ally/free content provider like the Gang of Gaming Morons, than something positive, now passe and "Not True Conservative" or something?

what a fucking dogshit world.

I am beginning to hate everyone.

Yeah, whatever, congratulations IanS.  That was just wonderful, you cunt.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 05:30 PM (/IWYB)

888 Perusing Auto Trader pulp magazines facilitates visually identification of many makes and models. There must be similar publications for guns.

Posted by: adams Jane's porn at August 30, 2013 05:31 PM (gQKHE)

889 "conservatives are the nice ones who still remember decency, politeness, and the Golden Rule."

Right.  How about this as a counter-theory: For many, conservativism is just a flag of convenience to justify their basic hateful, anti-social personality type?

people need to start looking in the fucking mirrors.




Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 05:32 PM (/IWYB)

890 beating a dead horse.

Posted by: chango butt at August 30, 2013 05:33 PM (qQk+U)

891 About a month ago, I drove from Morgantown, W. Va. back to Boston with my ~10 year old autistic son who hates country (which dad prefers) but loves him some pop music. Sirius XM 2 replayed the Top 40 over and over and over for 12 mf'n hours on that trip, but it kept him happy. And some of you complain about one blog post? Puh-leeze.

Posted by: Andy at August 30, 2013 05:33 PM (li+aS)

892 preparation H for ace

Posted by: chango butt at August 30, 2013 05:33 PM (qQk+U)

893 >>>Right. How about this as a counter-theory: For many, conservativism is just a flag of convenience to justify their basic hateful, anti-social personality type?

people need to start looking in the fucking mirrors.


Yeah except for all the people around here who don't behave like that.  Come the fuck on now, dude.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 05:34 PM (n/+FT)

894 860 plus comments and not one by Sven, and where the hell is chemjeff? Seriously you guys (well, Ace actually), this was a funny post and some of the comments were hilarious. It was funny because you are noticing the pop culture and making some funny snark about it, and at the same time asking "what does this mean", and not being too deep about it. It does get depressing banging on and on about Obama and the Democrats, because everyday it's a variation on the same banal stupidity. This was fresh and different and funny. I actually read all the comments and some were funny and who cares if somebody is just rejectionist? There are blog posts on the Left and people get incredibly rejectionist if it gets outside their comfort zone. Good God, if somebody on a Left-blog comments that maybe Bush was right about something one in his life, you would think they murdered a blind nun. I work pretty hard at my job most days, and when my Boss jumps my shit about something I didn't get to because I was too busy, it really chaps my ass. So I get how Ace feels when he puts a few hours and thinking into writing a basically non-political blog post about something that piqued his interest, and then the only thing that some people can say is "this is bullshit". No it's not, but if you don't like it, go read something else.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at August 30, 2013 05:34 PM (v6hyJ)

895

For many, conservativism is just a flag of convenience to justify their basic hateful, anti-social personality type

 

 

I like to think of it as serendipity in my case.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 05:34 PM (XntP1)

896 Well,I AM,hateful and anti social.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 05:35 PM (9XBK2)

897 Glad to see at least one of the mods is here deleting a troll (is it THE troll...?  Erg?)

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 05:35 PM (n/+FT)

898 >> Good Night Ace. Andy and the rest. Ya'll have a great 3 day weekend. You too, Joe. Glad to be able to get you back among the living this week.

Posted by: Andy at August 30, 2013 05:36 PM (li+aS)

899 874 I swear that the way some people just casually snipe at fucking everything makes me really wonder what the fuck they're like in real life. Actually I don't wonder. I think I know. Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 10:26 PM (/IWYB) I have a theory that the Internet has caused be people to be overly critical of everything. I mean "critical" in the sense of needing to view everything through a critical eye because they NEED to express their opinion on a subject. So rather than go and view a movie with the intention of enjoying it, they go in and start to pick it apart in their head so they can point out all the problems when they get home. That's why I'm happy that my childhood was rooted in the '80s. The culture that developed under Reagan of optimism has stuck with me to this day. I seek out things that I want to enjoy and don't need to express the world every little flaw I happen to observe in the process.

Posted by: Synnerman at August 30, 2013 05:36 PM (0Bdlg)

900 >>>Posted by: chango butt at August 30, 2013 10:36 PM (qQk+U)

Seeing how the lifespan of this comment is less than 40 seconds, I'm just going to kindly invite you to suck my cock right now.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 05:37 PM (n/+FT)

901 >>conservatives are the nice ones who still remember decency, politeness, and the Golden Rule." You should try being a RINO on a True Conservative blog like this one during election season. Sometimes the host will even make an entire post about you just to hold you up to ridicule for disagreeing with the popular opinion. Or so I'm told.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2013 05:37 PM (g1DWB)

902 >>>That's why I'm happy that my childhood was rooted in the '80s. The culture that developed under Reagan of optimism has stuck with me to this day. I seek out things that I want to enjoy and don't need to express the world every little flaw I happen to observe in the process.

Yeah, this is my default mode too (no, really it is -- ever read me when I going on about rock music around here?).  It's healthy to and find the reasons to like something first before moving on to the reasons to criticize it. 

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 05:38 PM (n/+FT)

903 Well that's different, JackStraw.

Posted by: Andy at August 30, 2013 05:39 PM (li+aS)

904 ace@856,

What is this... a movie review within a movie review? Breaking barriers, man.

But instead of breaking barriers, shouldn't you, you know, be talking about Syria? Peruvians are deeply concerned.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 30, 2013 05:40 PM (eHIJJ)

905 >>>Sometimes the host will even make an entire post about you just to hold you up to ridicule for disagreeing with the popular opinion.

Yes, people still call my wholly blameless and unwitting girlfriend a "whore" and a "slut" on occasion because of a post Ace once made calling her such (jokingly, in his case, but then look at some of the people around here) and discussing why she wasn't a Sarah Palin fan. 

Still chaps my ass, even though I know he didn't really mean harm by it.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 05:40 PM (n/+FT)

906 Sorry Andy. Sounded like it was Festivus. I got some grievances.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2013 05:41 PM (g1DWB)

907 >>>I have a theory that the Internet has caused be people to be overly critical of everything. I mean "critical" in the sense of needing to view everything through a critical eye because they NEED to express their opinion on a subject. So rather than go and view a movie with the intention of enjoying it, they go in and start to pick it apart in their head so they can point out all the problems when they get home.

this combines with a well-known bias towards negativity, because if you're negative and say "That sucks" you kind of can't be made fun of.  By saying "That sucks," you put yourself above it.

But by saying something's good, you run the risk of being made fun of.  You're like exposing yourself.

But this means that most negativity is simply the preferred path for mental cowardice.

Whatever.  Hey, maybe it's not such a crazy idea that "What you put out into the world impacts the world.'

maybe not everything has to be in this smugly nasty critical tone.

i'm getting off line.

thanks all. and don't worry about chango butt, whoever is deleting him.  He doesn't bother me. he's just an insect, buzzing around.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 05:42 PM (/IWYB)

908 I do appreciate the pop culture posts. They give me knowledge of things I know nothing about.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at August 30, 2013 05:44 PM (UCpNc)

909 Take it easy,ace.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 05:44 PM (9XBK2)

910 Ace: I read your thread topic essay, watched the videos, contemplated things ... Your essay is good, and leaves a large chapped area on Robin Thicke ... well done. Who is Robin Thicke? Alan Thicke's son, ok ... an up-and-coming, what? Musician? Actor? Did he write the song, or did he buy it? Does he play a musical instrument? Tambourine doesn't count. I watched his video. I like monokinis. His video, sans models, was not even mediocre; it's him and friends trying to look cool, "George-Clooney-Rat-Pack-ish". Is his work a tribute to the (Frank Sinatra-Dean Martin-Sammy Davis) original, a parody, a take-off, a ... ? His music is ... someone else's. I think you used a lot of time and talent on a marginally-important subject. The exercise was a good one, but Thicke seems a bit thin for such an effort.

Posted by: Arbalest at August 30, 2013 05:45 PM (FlRtG)

911

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Posted by: chango butt at August 30, 2013 05:46 PM (qQk+U)

912 Don't care who this Robin Thicke tool is but freakin awesome post Ace. Two words for you Sirius freaks: Bluegrass Junction Remember, if the woman ain't dead by the end of the song, it ain't bluegrass. Soo-ey.

Posted by: J.D.Crowe at August 30, 2013 05:47 PM (kbFSP)

913 >>>I think you used a lot of time and talent on a marginally-important subject. The exercise was a good one, but Thicke seems a bit thin for such an effort.

it was chiefly an excuse for a series of Reversal Jokes.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 05:47 PM (/IWYB)

914 Mac: But our shenanigans are cheeky and fun. Thorny: Yeah, his shenanigans are cruel and tragic.

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915

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buzzing round your hive
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buzzing round your hive
Together we can make honey now baby
If you let me come inside

I'm a king bee
I want you to be my queen
Well I'm a king bee, baby
Want you to be my queen
Well together we can make honey, baby
The world has never seen

Okay let's buzz a while

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Posted by: chango butt at August 30, 2013 05:47 PM (qQk+U)

916

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buzzing round your hive
I'm a king bee baby
buzzing round your hive
Together we can make honey now baby
If you let me come inside

I'm a king bee
I want you to be my queen
Well I'm a king bee, baby
Want you to be my queen
Well together we can make honey, baby
The world has never seen

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Posted by: chango butt at August 30, 2013 05:51 PM (qQk+U)

917 People need to chill the fuck out afore sumpin' bad happen.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 30, 2013 05:52 PM (NLqIR)

918 Like a hangnail. Or they choke on ice cream or sumpin'.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at August 30, 2013 05:52 PM (NLqIR)

919


it was chiefly an excuse for a series of Reversal Jokes.

 

 

...and the brunette.

Seriously.  She's the one we've been waiting for.

Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2013 05:53 PM (XntP1)

920 883 Ditto I love the non political threads because I learn so many interesting and amusing things about the regulars. I think of them like the old fashioned front porch most of us don't have anymore. Neighbors strolling by and shooting the breeze about whatever strikes their fancy.

Posted by: Tuna at August 30, 2013 05:54 PM (M/TDA)

921 ace: "...I can't believe I'm going to say this -- I of all people! -- but do we really NEED to have hard, firm opinions on everything?"

You'd like to tell them "don't sweat the small stuff", but perhaps with the gloom so close, they can't make out the difference between the small stuff and the large stuff, so they really have to sweat the small stuff. It looks so damn bid when it is so damn close.

Posted by: flashbazzbo, s.e. at August 30, 2013 05:58 PM (2yZsg)

922 thanks CJ.

I appreciate it.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 05:59 PM (/IWYB)

923 >>>You'd like to tell them "don't sweat the small stuff", but perhaps with the gloom so close, they can't make out the difference between the small stuff and the large stuff, so they really have to sweat the small stuff. It looks so damn bid when it is so damn close.

but it's ugly.

i can only say this so many times.

this is not an attractive feature.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 05:59 PM (/IWYB)

924 Damnit ace!I thought you were going.

Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2013 06:00 PM (9XBK2)

925 >>Still chaps my ass, even though I know he didn't really mean harm by it. It's a bar room. A bar room where people don't actually have to face the people they are talking to. Truth is most people suck. And they're cowards. Doesn't matter which side of the aisle you are on. The idea that True Conservatives are saints is a bad joke. Most are as nasty to anyone who does't agree with their own idea of what a conservative is as any liberal. They just like to tell themselves they are more civil. But that's why the internet is so popular. You can be anyone and say anything to anyone with no repercussions.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2013 06:00 PM (g1DWB)

926

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I'm a king bee baby
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Together we can make honey now baby
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Well I'm a king bee, baby
Want you to be my queen
Well together we can make honey, baby
The world has never seen

Okay let's buzz a while

A buzz buzz (buzz buzz)
A buzz buzz (buzz buzz)
A buzz buzz (buzz buzz)
A buzz buzz (buzz buzz)

I'm a king bee
I can buzz all night long
Well I'm a king bee, baby
I can buzz all night long
Well I can buzz better baby
When your man is gone


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Posted by: chango butt at August 30, 2013 06:00 PM (qQk+U)

927 the people who have elected themselves the Movement Morale Officers are fucking destroying the movement's morale.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 06:00 PM (/IWYB)

928 it was chiefly an excuse for a series of Reversal Jokes.

I liked the rape jokes most of all. 

And the brunette with the tits. 

And the part where you made fun of Robin Thicke. 

Posted by: Phinn at August 30, 2013 06:00 PM (oFH2D)

929

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 11:00 PM (/IWYB)

 

Allow me to help.

Posted by: Todd Akin at August 30, 2013 06:04 PM (fRlGp)

930 This douche video has convinced me that when the barbarians are at the gates, I want to be the one who lets them in. Burn baby burn.

Posted by: Goodness at August 30, 2013 06:05 PM (YTuP3)

931 "And the brunette with the tits. And the part where you made fun of Robin Thicke. " Concatenation: Robin Meade

Posted by: adams Deadliest Catch porn at August 30, 2013 06:06 PM (gQKHE)

932 it was chiefly an excuse for a series of Reversal Jokes. Sorry, I only caught a few as jokes, and assumed the rest was part of a fisking. I don't do humor, but I usually catch it. Reversal jokes seem very tough to do, and sometimes, the "target" is not a sufficiently "polarized", "extreme", "defined", whatever, target. In Thicke's case, he seems not sufficiently accomplished ... and what he's done is best left in community theatre or cheap local bars.

Posted by: Arbalest at August 30, 2013 06:07 PM (FlRtG)

933 >>>the people who have elected themselves the Movement Morale Officers are fucking destroying the movement's morale.

If we don't verbalize our fears, they're not real.

And if we only talk about political subjects, we can change the world through sheer force of words.

Really, it's a rather unwitting testament to the faith some people repose in the written/spoken word.  If you only hear/see people saying the things you want to hear/see, then physical reality suddenly seems...less important.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 06:07 PM (n/+FT)

934 Ace, I've been reading you for over 10 years, basically from the beginning, and aside from one retarded comment a few years ago about wilford brimley drinking bourbon and building spaceships, i never have commented. despite what breitbart said about your commenters in the past, for the most part they suck. They're good people and conservatives, but their not cool. They never were the cool kids and for the most part they are pretty boring. Resentfully boring. And they are the problem with the conservative brand, and to a lesser extent, the republican brand. Well, what their sentiments represent more so. To elaborate, I'm going to bring up an example of someone who knows very well the significance of winning the culture and how to execute that goal with unquestionable success. Gavin McInnes. As you probably know he was one of the founders of VICE and basically gave it its irreverent editorial voice before he split with those lefty twats. Currently he has is own branding agency Rooster nyc, is a regular contributor to takimag, and a regular on guttfields the Five. He's significant because of his transition from indoctrinated Canadian liberal to bonifide arch conservative. But he also understands the significance of winning the culture and not just writing off hipsters and other insufferable social trends just out of hand. In fact he does the opposite and finds ways to turn them. The old fogey fuddy duddys of your site, unfortunately, are not influential culturally, and they never will be. The youth is, and none of the youth find any reason to think conservatism or being a republican is "cool". Partly because they are brainwashed incessantly from birth and partly because, quite frankly, conservatism as is currently articulated is boring and lame and a basically a bunch of scolds. Conservatism needs a rebranding. I would love to see you work with McInnes in some form in the future, you both know how to destroy all the sacred cows of the left in a very unforgiving ass-rapey , manner. Jim goad too...he's very ass rapey with the takedowns of the left

Posted by: wilford brimleys mustache at August 30, 2013 06:07 PM (jNT5w)

935 914 Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 11:00 PM (/IWYB) Allow me to help. Posted by: Todd Akin at August 30, 2013 11:04 PM (fRlGp) *************** lmao

Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2013 06:07 PM (r2PLg)

936 Good post. That brunette is haunting my mind-poems.

Posted by: Croaker at August 30, 2013 06:08 PM (pB+CQ)

937 Ugly it is. Unless the sweat is on that redhead/brunette gal everyone is so up'n stuff about.

G'nite, ace.

Posted by: flashbazzbo, s.e. at August 30, 2013 06:10 PM (2yZsg)

938 WBM: despite what breitbart said about your commenters in the past, for the most part they suck. .. If you prick me, do I not bleed? - V. Price, on the Hollywood Squares They're good people and conservatives, but their not cool. They never were the cool kids and for the most part they are pretty boring. Resentfully boring. We can't all be Keef Olberman, Ed Shultz, Rachel Madcow, Chrissy Matthews, etc., 24/365 ... for 10 years. Fortunately, we do not have their ratings ... And they are the problem with the conservative brand, and to a lesser extent, the republican brand. Well, what their sentiments represent more so. The problem(s) with the conservative brand point more to imaging and messaging ... specifically, not letting the brand be defined by the opposition. This points to leadership and support: a few (in the scheme of things) people, not most. More importantly, it points to "ratings" ... the Media type. There's very strong evidence that The Media is an active "D" agent ... fighting this is very difficult. In fact, it's never been done before: an outside entity (blogs) taking on The Media (newspapers and TV; just about all of them). Perhaps watching for a few more years might be a good idea ... helping might be even better.

Posted by: Arbalest at August 30, 2013 06:29 PM (FlRtG)

939 All of the other points aside - that is a wretched excuse for a music video. Except for the nudity it's a boring man trying to be dangerous, no electricity there. Topless VH-1.

Posted by: Rose at August 30, 2013 06:32 PM (4d8AY)

940 I thought it was funny. --Reporting live from Brewfest 2013

Posted by: Beagle at August 30, 2013 06:56 PM (pydVk)

941 Emily Ratajkowski,she's 21, and she says she's amazed people like her "silly dance". I'm old enough to feel bad for her.

Posted by: Chris_Balsz at August 30, 2013 07:05 PM (xY4SY)

942 >>All of the other points aside - that is a wretched excuse for a music video. Except for the nudity it's a boring man trying to be dangerous, no electricity there. Topless VH-1.

i actually think it's pretty funny (But I'm not being a bitch and insisting you agree).

it's so blatant. It's off the scale in its blatantness.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 07:30 PM (/IWYB)

943 My wife listens to modern stuff. I generally don't like it. Don't like the sound of autotuned vocals, don't like the instrumentation sound that is currently popular, and generally don't like music that doesn't sound like it could be played live. But I liked this song immediately upon hearing it. I can see where they had the Gaye song in mind, but it is really hard to come up with a new way to do a song based on a simple bass and drum bit, and they did it. And I find the lyrics and the video entertaining. They could have left out the rapper though, destroys the purity, but all songs now seem to have to "feature" someone.

Posted by: azjaeger at August 30, 2013 07:31 PM (niWgN)

944 927 -

After a LLLOOOONG busy day, I got to do two things I enjoy the most:  read one of your long posts, where you make it worthwhile to read all the way through, and confirm my own sense of good taste by  being absolutely confounded at the notion that anyone would be entertained by that song.

The chicks?  Sure, delicious doesn't begin to describe them, but even that becomes boring after a while.  I could not even make it all the way through the uncensored version with the sound off. 

So thanks for doing what you do, Ace. 

Posted by: BurtTC at August 30, 2013 07:36 PM (BeSEI)

945 Burt, I've got some good news and some bad news.

Good news is, thank you for the compliment.

The bad news is--

>>>The chicks? Sure, delicious doesn't begin to describe them, but even that becomes boring after a while.

You're gay.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 07:53 PM (/IWYB)

946

I think the song, video, and post are funny. It brings me down to read the comments and constantly see Ace running down the commenters.

 

Ace - in 900 comments, you are always going to have a few you don't like. Couldn't you focus on the other 850 comments?

Posted by: song from Jurassic Park at August 30, 2013 07:56 PM (FFIoe)

947

Holy crap, I just found out Robert Palmer is dead?!?!?

Posted by: song from Jurassic Park at August 30, 2013 07:58 PM (FFIoe)

948 yes robert palmer died like 10 years ago of lung cancer, I think.

>>>Ace - in 900 comments, you are always going to have a few you don't like. Couldn't you focus on the other 850 comments?

Yes I should but like I said, ten people can wave hello as you go to work but it's the two that gave you the finger that you think about all day.

This also gets to a serious issue: Rejectivism of various trivial cultural expressions is NOT politics, it is merely a personal preference, but many people are taking such trivial preferences as "political in nature" and hence objectively right, and, worse, taking differing trivial preferences as objectively wrong.  And then sort of getting attitudinal about that.

All I can say is what I have said:  It's a turnoff.  For anyone. And it's strange to see people ostensibly interested in Winning the Culture doing things which are very counterproductive.

Politics is downstream of culture but that does not mean we choose a particular culture as "objectively right" and push that culture (and knock down others).

Look, a lot of negativity is anoying.  You're down because you saw me being very negative in the comments, right? (Although it wasn't even directed at you.)

Well, I don't like negativity directed at me either.

You don't like me grousing at commenters.  I get that.

I don't want to be groused at either.

Look, I had some ego invested in this post.  I was rather proud of it.  I thought the structure of it was clever.  I was trying to think of a way to structure it and then I figured out the Reversals at each new entry and it all worked.

And that pleased me.  And I hoped it would please people.

And it didn't, of course. And I felt rather bruised about that.

If you do something you're rather proud of and all a few perpetual malcontents can say is "I don't like this post" and "Do something on Syria," I am betting you'd be put out as well.




Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:09 PM (/IWYB)

949 I do find it very childish and arrogant to look at a blog, which is sort of like a magazine with different articles, and take this bizarre attitude that not only should every single article be pitched at your exact demographic and field of interests, but that the management is at fault if a single article slips through intended for a different sort of reader.

Rather than just silently saying "Not for me" and moving on, some people feel compelled to say "This isn't for me, you shouldn't have done this."

I don't get that. It's borderline insane.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:12 PM (/IWYB)

950 Thanks, Beagle!

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:12 PM (/IWYB)

951 This might sum up several points. Rather than just silently saying "Not for me" and moving on, some people feel compelled to say "This isn't for me, you shouldn't have done this." I don't get that. It's borderline insane. Recall the Bannings at LGF starting in 2007. A very large number of people were severely hurt. The reasons vary, but the Death of (online) Personality seems to have been a big one. Why? Apparently, very many people become very "invested" in blogs ... ... so, to my point, rather than move on, many people want to help and improve the (brand, blog, ...). It's very much like looking into a palantir, with The Nameless No-No looking back. Like I wrote earlier, I liked your essay, and thought it was good. BUT, apparently I did not interpret it as you intended, and it looks like I was not alone. Human communication is most effective in-person. When it changes to a voice line, perhaps 30% of the "information" is lost. Written ... maybe 36% ... and these numbers are from a professional sales coach. I choose to believe him. Sometimes, you (you , me, everyone) have to be "obvious"; not necessarily crude, unsophisticated, but use common-y shared reference points. "His sails unfurled" is an example,; how a culture could (fictionally) communicate this way defies logic, and the episode was irritating, but it serves as an illustration. I simply did not get nearly enough of what you "intended", and it's after 1:00AM, on a 3-day weekend, so I will likely get even less now.

Posted by: Arbalest at August 30, 2013 08:27 PM (FlRtG)

952 I thought it was a funny post.  It wasn't until I was about half way through it that the whole structure of it became clear, and the nature of the funny revealed itself.  So for a few minutes it was like "OK,... and where is this going?"... and then all of a sudden, it was like "BAM!  OK, now it is all falling into place.  Good one."

Anyway, I've been reading this site since about 2006.  I remember the night we lost the House in the 2006 election.  Good times, good times...  Chokin' down a shit sandwich.  Small bites.  Washing it down with a glass of Ted Kennedy's ball sweat.  That and other bon-mots were found in the comments.  I've never forgot them.

Ace, you are a funny guy.  And a smart guy.  You used to be funnier, now you are smarter and more serious.  I don't know what you want to be.

You just wrote a review of Dredd 3D. Before I read that review, I swore I'd never watch that piece of shit (thinking about Stalone's Dredd).  But your review was damn smart and well thought out.  So much so that I went out and watched that movie.  And you were right.  Your review was spot on, and I'm so glad I took your advice and watched it.  I mean, it didn't change my life.  But I watched that movie twice, once with my girl (and she liked it a lot too), so that is almost six hours of unadulterated pleasure that our sorry little household got to enjoy.  So thanks for that.

Posted by: Taco Shack at August 30, 2013 08:27 PM (C+qQ0)

953 >>>> Reversals Oh, that technique has a name? Good to know. I thought they carried the post and said so. I didn't read the comments and did just now. And, damn, that took a long time. I get why you're upset. It's the 5 people who show up on the comment thread after you put up multiple content warnings and go to the trouble of putting the graphic stuff below the fold to bitch about How Disgusting! How bout you don't read it, and why did you anyway? Take some responsibility for your decision to click on a link that you knew was NSFW or read a post with a lot of content warnings.

Posted by: L, elle at August 30, 2013 08:29 PM (0PiQ4)

954 >>>
Oh, that technique has a name?

not really, it's not really a technique per se, but the jokes are all reversals/deflations/contradictions of the last thing siad.

it's just what I called it.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:40 PM (/IWYB)

955 arbalest,

frankly I don't understand what you're saying so I'll have to guess.

>>>Why? Apparently, very many people become very "invested" in blogs ...

... so, to my point, rather than move on, many people want to help and improve the (brand, blog, ...). It's very much like looking into a palantir, with The Nameless No-No looking back.

Like I wrote earlier, I liked your essay, and thought it was good.

BUT, apparently I did not interpret it as you intended, and it looks like I was not alone.

...

Trying to "help" a blog should not extend as far as giving the writer a list of things he is permitted to write about.

You know, I could just really phone things in and just do links and quotes?

I could do that.

Do you want me to do that?

My actual creative impulses and sense of fun have to sort of get their due, too.

And I'm sorry if that's not to your liking, or CBD's, or Granny Liberty's.

But there is a timehonored tradition, which even True Conservatives once believed, but apparently has now become Pussy RINO Shit now that we are in the new era of Every Fucking Trivial Thought Must Be Expressed, that said if you don't have something nice to say, you should probably keep it to yourself, especially if someone seems to have worked on something for a while.

The internet has created the new breed of asshole, the Asshole Without Boundaries, the asshole who just MUST weigh in on

EVERY

FUCKING

THING

that passes before his sight.

Whatever.



Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:44 PM (/IWYB)

956 thanks taco shack, and by the way, I enjoyed the tacos.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:45 PM (/IWYB)

957 Any time, brother.

Posted by: Taco Shack at August 30, 2013 08:46 PM (C+qQ0)

958 >>> simply did not get nearly enough of what you "intended", and it's after 1:00AM, on a 3-day weekend, so I will likely get even less now.

what can I tell you?  Not every thing is for every body.

I detect a vibe whereby if someone doesn't feel included on the joke, or doesn't feel included in the cultural reference (such as to a pop song), they sort of feel excluded, and feel bad, and sort of try to hurt back by knocking the thing.

this impulse is itself childish. My liking of Beethoven creates no negative commentary on people who don't like Beethoven. And people who don't like Beethoven really don't have to, and also should not, sort of gin up some anti-Beethoven response just to keep things "balanced."


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 08:48 PM (/IWYB)

959 Always last to the party, but fwiw, I enjoyed the post. I've been mystified by the appeal of that song since it crossed my radar a couple weeks ago, but you clarified it for me with the Marvin Gaye references.

The video is so arch and over the top misogynistic, I guess if I took it seriously I'd be offended, but eh, it's Thicke and Pharell, I can't really care enough. I recall when Pharell declared Palin a milf. Maybe they're charming gentlemen in person, but this is what they're selling. Not a vibe I got from Marvin Gaye's music. Long after Blurred Lines has fallen from the charts, we'll still be listening to Got to Give it Up.

Posted by: venus velvet at August 30, 2013 08:49 PM (g94P/)

960 I can't stop laughing at Thicke's hand up the blonde joke. Maybe you could tie that joke/picture to your Syria posts. That might please even the grumpiest commenter.

Posted by: song from Jurassic Park at August 30, 2013 08:49 PM (FFIoe)

961 .>>. Long after Blurred Lines has fallen from the charts, we'll still be listening to Got to Give it Up.

oh well it's disposable pap.  It was written in half an hour and will last twice as long.

I will be sick of it in two days.

but I liked it today, and that's enough.

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 09:00 PM (/IWYB)

962 Ace --

People want to get a response from you.  It's like touching the hem of the king's robe.  And you don't usually respond in the comments to people who agree with you unless they're cob-loggers.  You do respond to people who insult you or push on certain hot buttons.

If I were a creepy stalker troll type, I sure know which tactic I would take in order to get attention from my beloved Ace Whose Blog I Am Too Invest In.

Really?  I figure that's the nature of 95% of internet trolls.  Particularly the persistent ones.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 09:01 PM (n/+FT)

963 no don't be silly. it's more likely what I've proposed, the basic conservative temperamental impulse to preserve tradition and reject the new, but it can go too damn far, for crying out loud.

a post about a dumb pop song (by the way, I don't care if anyone likes this song, I have nothing to do with it; i wanted people to like my jokes) gets rejected by two steps of reflexive rejectivism:

1.  I reflexively reject this song, as I don't like songs like this (which is fine by me, who cares), and then

2.  So I reflexively reject this POST, because, see Reason 1.

Look, I'm dancing around this: Conservatives are too goddamned close-minded for their own good.

No, let me put that more specifically:  Conservatives are too LOUD AND PROUD about being close-minded for their own good.

I am talking about "conservative temperament" here.  Am I accusing people here of this?

yes.

Why do I feel the authority to do so?

Because i know we do this -- BECAUSE *I* do this.

This is what makes me conservative in temperament.  Given a box labled "SOMETHING NEW," if i"m asked if I think I'd like what's in the box, I say, "No.  My guess is I wouldn't like that.  My guess is that it's crap."


There is an old Paul Reiser joke that the moment you hear a spanish song on the radio (he sings something like "Mira Cay-aya") your body moves with astonishing reflexes to TURN THAT SHIT OFF.

That's true.  We do.  I do that.  My basic setting for anything new is "Reject, it's almost certainly crap."

It's a good rule actually-- 90% of everything is crap, as Theodore Sturgeon said.  Following that rule reflexively, thoughtlessly, will actually give you GOOD RESULTS 90% of the time, which is pretty good.  You lose the 10% which is good, but with 90% accuracy with no effort expended, that's not a bad trade off.

But conservatives have gotten really, really bad about being so LOUD AND PROUD AND OSTENTATIOUS about their wholesale rejection of anything that is not of their current cultural preference.

I can only keep saying the same thing: It's a turn off. Most people do not like closed-minded people and want to think of themselves as open-minded.  A movement which is so boisterous and proud about its  widescale rejection of anything current is going to have some problems Winning the Culture.

Do I think that Winning the Culture means embracing the culture? Oh hell no, the current culture is atrocious.  If 90% of everything is crap on average, currently, for most things, it's 96%.  (Television has gotten slightly better and everything else is worse.)

I would not tell anyone to "consume more of this horrible culture."

But that's not what this post was about.  It was about some funny jokes and actually-relevant news about a current cultural phenomenon.  You don't have to consume the culture to give a read.

And even if you don't like it-- do we always have to be so loud about PROCLAIMING our rejection of everything?  What about rejecting something quietly?  What about the old shrug of the shoulder?

But yeah I think that this is a very, very important thing which is bringing the movement down, this special privilege given to these loud and proud rejections of the New.  I would not say embrace the New. The New is 95% bad.

But to be proud about rejecting something without even trying it?  Again, I understand that that rule of complete rejection would serve someone well, but when has it ever actually been cool to just say, "I reject it completely without even looking at it"?

And again, it's not about the song. I wrote a post I thought was fun.  I thought people might actually enjoy being brought up to speed on things.

I was wrong.

That's fine.

But apparently I had to be told that I was wrong.  The shrug of the shoulder, the "eh" reaction and just moving past it, wasn't on the table.

Because we now have to ADVERTISE every single one of our cultural rejections.

This isn't just about this post. It's an attitude that people find very offputting about us.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 09:26 PM (/IWYB)

964 I mean I find it offputting about us and I'm one of us. I'm one of the people who does it.

Here's the thing: I think we're doomed. I've said so.

So I don't see any more reason in counterfeiting myself for some "team unity." We're doomed.

So on the way down I'd like to have some fun, and I don't want to be bitched at for daring to like a song released after 1974.

And yeah, while the conservative impulse to reject the new is no worse than the liberal impulse to embrace the new (with no judgment) and discard the tradition (with no thought), neither one is quite as good as the actual best option, which is to exercise judgment and thought.

Which I don't do myself-- I still reject things most of the time, relying on the 90% rule of crap.

But again, whatever, if people think it makes them seem like intelligent people to just say "I didn't like this post even though I didn't read it, because I don't like the song even though I didn't listen to it," it doesn't.  It really doesn't.  It plays into all the stereotypes about conservatives.

(And, look, all stereotypes are ultimately true, aren't they?)



Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 09:32 PM (/IWYB)

965 I do find it very childish and arrogant to look at a blog, which is sort of like a magazine with different articles, and take this bizarre attitude that not only should every single article be pitched at your exact demographic and field of interests, but that the management is at fault if a single article slips through intended for a different sort of reader.



I think the problem might be that some people don't see it as a magazine. They see it as a social gathering at a bar, where it's considered creepy and rude to just sit around and not contribute to the conversation. They don't stop to realize that no one can see them lurking so it's perfectly ok to just say nothing.

Posted by: schizoid at August 30, 2013 09:40 PM (p909s)

966 Sorry about all the blank lines. I have no idea how that happened.

Posted by: schizoid at August 30, 2013 09:40 PM (p909s)

967 Yeah, but I think you're getting a bit lost in a philosophical forest -- one which you already know I agree with -- and forgetting some more mundane things.

This blog has a running joke that (stupidly, incredibly stupidly) people have now taken to be a Way Of Commenting: the Breitbart "I don't read the post, I just read the comments" bullshit.  What that means is that people look at this place like a community drop in to like Cheers ("hey, it's that grumpy old guy again!  Hi, grumpy old guy!")  A long new comment comes up and their first reaction is to write something tangentially dismissive about it ("I don't like this old people crap") because what they REALLY want to do is announce I Am Here to the 'community.'

I don't indulge in this sort of fake bonhomie.  You're not my friends.  You're people I interact with online.  Hell, most of you hate me.  But others around here -- even ones who would disclaim this if asked directly -- want to be a part of things and since they can't relate to the topic you've posted about, that's the only way they know how to get into the conversation.  Because they're awkward or ill-tempered, I dunno. 

There are a few asshole trolls -- those are the ones who want to get a response from you as validation -- but a lot of this stuff is just sad old people who don't know what to say but still want to "be a part." 

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 09:43 PM (n/+FT)

968 Sweet Timmy Tebow, what the hell is it with this date in Internet history! Because exactly one year ago tonight we had the infamous thread with Treacher getting all postal on EoJ. I know this because it was my b-day that night. Ace, you are above and beyond wonderful and a lifesaver to me personally in providing thoughtful commentary along with hysterical funny. You are going no-damn-where, capiche? I'm old and I knew the Robin Thicke tune and I like it. Call up the video of him doing it with Jimmy Fallon and the Roots using elementary classroom instruments. It's great. But no fabulous boobage in that rendition. And I will always remember my 79-year-old mom announcing that she thought they should just let Prince do the Super Bowl halftime every year because he was just phenomenal when he did do it. I agreed with her, but I could not believe she a) knew who he was and b) would like him at all if she did know who he was. Parents say the darnest things.

Posted by: dwagyak at August 30, 2013 09:44 PM (cd2AJ)

969 Wow, look at all those typos. Oh well, nobody's gonna read it anyway.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 09:44 PM (n/+FT)

970 >>>951 Sorry about all the blank lines. I have no idea how that happened.

you're so banned

Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 09:45 PM (/IWYB)

971 Note that when I wrote "old" in 952 I didn't mean it in the literal sense of "advanced age," but rather in the colloquial "sad ol' bastard" sort of way.  I feel pretty old myself these days, honestly.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 09:48 PM (n/+FT)

972 >>>But others around here -- even ones who would disclaim this if asked directly -- want to be a part of things and since they can't relate to the topic you've posted about, that's the only way they know how to get into the conversation.

and I would still say that that stems from the default idea that rejectivism is "privileged," that is, socially favored.

Which is kind of is... in a conservative movement... but again, let's not fucking go banana sandwich with it. 

Rejecting things out of hand without thought is like beating your wife-- it must be done, but it should be done in private.*

In any event, there are twenty fucking posts here a day.  If a post is not to someone's liking, either post on the last one, or wait for the next one.  "I don't like this thing the group is talking about now" is not a fucking conversation-starter.


*  Repurposed raymond chandler joke.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 09:49 PM (/IWYB)

973 Sorry. Have heard the Gaye song for the better part of three decades and always thought it was a lightweight piece of disco fluff... never even knew it was Gaye... or knew it and forgot because I didn't care... because I always thought it was a lightweight piece of disco fluff... but... can't see any connection between it and "Blurred Lines." BL is the vastly superior song.

Posted by: Brian McKim at August 30, 2013 09:52 PM (ko1M2)

974 >>>Rejecting things out of hand without thought is like beating your wife-- it must be done, but it should be done in private.

See, one of the good things about 3:00am Ace is that you bring out some of the lines that have been filed into the back of the closet since 2005 or so.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 09:58 PM (n/+FT)

975 "And I'm sorry if that's not to your liking, or ..." I wrote that I missed (did not catch/understand) some things you intended, not that I did not like your work. I did not "get" Reversals; I think I have never read Reversals before. I needed Reversals to be explained to me. My comments about Thicke are directed at Thicke and his work. It's not that I reject the "new", it's that I find his stuff ... not good ... and wrote so.

Posted by: Arbalest at August 30, 2013 09:58 PM (FlRtG)

976 >>>Sorry. Have heard the Gaye song for the better part of three decades and always thought it was a lightweight piece of disco fluff... never even knew it was Gaye... or knew it and forgot because I didn't care... because I always thought it was a lightweight piece of disco fluff... but... can't see any connection between it and "Blurred Lines." BL is the vastly superior song.

Obviously a worse troll than erg.  Dude, you're talking about "Gotta Give It Up" by Marvin Gaye here.  I'm going to guess that you've never known the touch of a woman.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 09:59 PM (n/+FT)

977 Next Brian McKim is going to tell us that while he thought the Fleet Foxes' version of "Let's Stay Together" was a masterpiece, he's not so sure about this "stiff, mannered" performance by Al Green.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 10:01 PM (n/+FT)

978 Sweet Timmy Tebow, what the hell is it with this date in Internet history! Because exactly one year ago tonight we had the infamous thread with Treacher getting all postal on EoJ. I know this because it was my b-day that night.

*****
Got a link to that thread of mayhem?

Posted by: Taco Shack at August 30, 2013 10:05 PM (C+qQ0)

979 Longbow!


What? Some of you were thinking it.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 30, 2013 10:29 PM (eHIJJ)

980 i can't believe I got mad over longbows.

yes I can.


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 10:48 PM (/IWYB)

981 >>>i can't believe I got mad over longbows.

yes I can.


That makes some of the recent stuff seem like child's play.

Posted by: Jeff B., what has finally had it with this RINO shit at August 30, 2013 10:52 PM (n/+FT)

982 965: it was your finest hour.

Posted by: D. Hopper at August 30, 2013 10:57 PM (fxN9x)

983 i don't even remember why I got mad over this and i'm pretty sure I don't want to be reminded of the details.

let's leave it at "finest hour."


Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 11:01 PM (/IWYB)

984 Where the hell is Wicked Pinto? 

Never mind.

Don't answer that.

What's he doing?

Breakin' bitches.


Posted by: Taco Shack at August 30, 2013 11:02 PM (C+qQ0)

985 Why don't you go out and get laid a couple of times this weekend you'll feel better. I know i would if there were any snow balls chance in hell of me getting laid a couple of times this weekend...

Posted by: D. Hopper at August 30, 2013 11:09 PM (fxN9x)

986 And try doing it gratis for a change!

Posted by: D. Hopper at August 30, 2013 11:11 PM (fxN9x)

987 I finally watched the video with the sound off.

Nice boobehs.



Stupid in a high school sophmore way.  Without the nudity it looks like something shot by the high school AV class, like the first videos where the video was an afterthought.



"We need a video."
"Oh yeah.  Studio 'C' is empty; I'll get the boys.  Could you see what's in teh props room and I'll see who else is hanging around 'cause we're going to need extras."



Yeah, I get it, Ace.  The election of Obama has made everyone sour, defensive, and wanting to lash out like the Democrats and the Left were doing back when Bush got elected.  And the Right was doing when Clinton got elected.  And the Left was doing when Reagan got elected.

About a month ago it was announced Nancy Mace would primary Sen. Graham and I asked if she had been vetted because I didn't want us to lose a safe seat because of the closet nut syndrome and near-everyone was jumping on me for being - I don't know - 'not politically reliable' I guess.
Sheesh.


Everybody needs to calm down a little, I think.  The second term is where the first term is repudiated and so far Obama is off to a running start on that project.  The scandals are piling up so much that 'Obama scandals' is going to be the linkage in people's minds.  And now Syria which might turn out to be his Katrina.  For the sake of our military I hope not, but I'm not confident.


Come on down!  The 2014 models are in!  Lots of Conspicuous Self-Rightousness down at the Outrage Outlet by the four-way stop!

Posted by: Mikey NTH Spittle-Flecked Diatribes Now 25% Off! at August 31, 2013 01:56 AM (gmoEG)

988 BTW - Moe Lane says this was an "epic, EPIC takedown" so you got that.

Posted by: Mikey NTH Spittle-Flecked Diatribes Now 25% Off! at August 31, 2013 02:13 AM (gmoEG)

989 Ace, I'm old (59 today), but I loved this post. And also love the song--bought it after hearing it for the first time. One of my favorite workout tunes for the elliptical.

Posted by: Polly at August 31, 2013 02:53 AM (wVGNe)

990 Ron Mexico likes this video....

Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 31, 2013 04:23 AM (wtvvX)

991 Was WFB and his life congruent with Ace's definition of how conservatives think? No, no it wasn't. That is a problem, and the solution is more Buckley. Not a zombie you fools, his words he left behind for us should be quoted. I should be quoting him now. Alternatively, Al and Tipper were what Ace describes as proudly closed-minded in their attitude toward new stuff and new ideas in music and film. What changed the (former) Gores' attitude was power and money.

Posted by: Twoslaps at August 31, 2013 04:36 AM (N36ZX)

992 "That just happened, straight out of the gate."

I know the original edit was "That just happened, straight out the gate, yo."

Racist.  </s>

Posted by: Brennan at August 31, 2013 04:42 AM (jdqbD)

993 I had no idea there was a controversy on this song - but only because I assumed it legally sampled Marvin Gaye.  I used to hate sampling (Get famous off your own musical talent rage rage rage) but whatever, it's the norm now.  So yay for a whole new generation of young kids discovering "Got to Give it Up" - which is irresistible.

But I do remember thinking the first time I listened to it it sounded like a sexy little challenge from the guy about getting past the girl's morals, until he dropped in the drugs.  Eyebrow raise. A little. But songs these days?  That's nothing.  It's nothing on the scale of shock lyrics.

And then I thought - meh, what the hell - it's Justin Timberlake and it's probably about Jessica Biel, and he married her so no one will be upset.

Can you tell I'm old? lol


Posted by: Laura Walker at August 31, 2013 04:48 AM (4k9jW)

994 Oh yeah - Tone Loc "Wild Thing" - uncredited sample of Van Halen "Jamie's Cryin" cost him $180,000 in the settlement.

Posted by: Laura Walker at August 31, 2013 04:54 AM (4k9jW)

995 Happy B'Day Polly

Posted by: Joethefatman (@joethefatman1) at August 31, 2013 08:18 AM (MnSla)

996 For the record, I think the gaming thread sucks because it's objectively awful. If you don't give a shit about EVE and you aren't a raving Microsoft fanboy, it rarely contains any content of use to you. If it were renamed the EVE and Ballmer thread, I'd be fine with that. Posted by: Ian S. at August 30, 2013 10:03 PM (OevbG) As an avid gamer (connoisseur!) who has not only played games all her life, but worked in the industry, I can categorically call BS on this statement. Love the gaming thread. I don't always have time to contribute, but I do link it elsewhere, to my guildies and other boards. It's always worth a read.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 31, 2013 08:36 AM (IXrOn)

997 They know they're freaks. Meh.

Posted by: Ms. Plinkett at August 31, 2013 08:40 AM (IXrOn)

998 So on the way down I'd like to have some fun amen preaching to the choir

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 31, 2013 08:42 AM (IXrOn)

999 it's annoying. that sort of person would not be invited back to any real social gathering. Posted by: ace at August 30, 2013 10:18 PM (/IWYB) if she looked like the chick in the video, yeah, she would be invited back no matter what she did, or said yea She would be invited

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 31, 2013 08:54 AM (IXrOn)

1000 The brunette is Emily Ratajkowski. You're welcome.

Posted by: Hotice at August 31, 2013 09:12 AM (FXuXL)

1001

Great post.  Regarding the George Harrison reference, that particular verdict is actually a Case Study in many Bus. Law textbooks 'cause it set a precedent for the "unintentional plagarism" angle.

The new copyright law specifies damages up to 3 TIMES royalties earned for intentional rip-offs of an existing work. This shyster NY lawyer who was once the attorney of record for the Beatles for a whole week (John hired him, Paul fired him) worked this angle by buying the copyright to "She's So Fine" and waiting for "My Sweet Lord" to hit #1. This was probably Harrison's biggest hit as a solo artist so the payoff would be huge.

During the trial Harrison admitted that he had listened avidly to 50's R&R -- they all did -- but was not aware he had copied the first 8 bars of the melody and chords until somebody pointed it out to him. (He later wrote "This Song" about the experience.)  The judge was no fool, he knew what shyster-guy was up to, so his verdict was unintentional copyright infringement and awarded the plaintiff the exact amount he paid for the older song: $252,000.

Granted, that's a lot of money for most of us, but compared to the price-tag for a multi-million seller, it was a huge victory for Harrison and any artist who might get targeted this way in the future.

 

 

Posted by: WildWillyC at August 31, 2013 09:13 AM (etHBA)

1002 "George Harrison's My Sweet Lord sounds nothing, nothing like the Chiffons' He's So Fine, but Harrison had to pay a lot of money for "infringing" that song. (The court found he was guilty of "unconscious plagiarism," too. Harrison was quite upset to be accused of any plagiarism, whether conscious or unconscious.)"


Nothing? Except for the lyrics and the slide guitar they are practically the same song.

@  WildWillyC: What Klein pulled was total garbage and he deserved to get burned for it but the main reason he was even capable of doing it is because it's obvious Harrison ripped off He's So Fine.

I don't really buy into the whole  "unconscious plagiarism," thing competely as some try to apply it to just riffs and such but when it reaches a level like on My Sweet Lord then you just can't ignore it. Even Lennon and Starr flat out said they thought it wasn't even unconscious. Probably it wasn't. Harrison probably thought changing it up some and the fact that the lyrics dealt with 2 different subjects was enough to cover his ass. It wasn't.

Posted by: Rocks at August 31, 2013 12:05 PM (qzWDd)

1003

Don't know it you know yet, but her name is Emily Ratajkowski.

Posted by: Boone at August 31, 2013 05:04 PM (CWWXn)

1004 >>>988 Don't know it you know yet, but her name is Emily Ratajkowski.

Oh I knowz it.  but thanks.


Posted by: ace at August 31, 2013 06:52 PM (/IWYB)

1005 well everyone says "My Sweet Lord" does rip off "She's So Fine" pretty badly, and they can hear it, so I guess I'm just tone deaf, which actually I guess I sort of already knew, so I concede that point.

Also people are pretty sure about ghostbusters so I'm wrong on that one.

And by the way as I've been listening to this song (and now am totally sick of it), I think it is really kind of far from "Got to Give It Up." You can definitely hear the inspiration, but you can't sue over inspiration.


Posted by: ace at August 31, 2013 06:55 PM (/IWYB)

1006 I forgot to say. No I don't think this hack Thicke ripped off Marvin Gaye's songs. His style? Absolutely. But you can't copyright a style. You can't copyright the subject of a song either. As the expert said the actual melody of the songs are different. This whole thing is racial. If the Gaye estate was to sue every R&B singer that sings in a falsetto and uses a syncopated drum beat in their music most of the black guys who ever put out a song would be in court.  Including Michael Jackson and Prince.

Listen to Prince's "Kiss". It's a straight up Gaye tune.

Posted by: Rocks at September 01, 2013 07:49 AM (qzWDd)

1007 This is fucking hilarious, thanks for that.
I'm not being facetious, this is nearly as good as the greatest "Fact about Dick Cheney" ever written--which is "Dick Cheney was vacationing in Mexico when he used a cougar for a condom. By Sunday night the body count was 13 Mexicans and 1 cougar...."

Posted by: LexisTexas at September 01, 2013 03:10 PM (kPFAg)

1008 The first time I saw the video I thought it said Robin Thicke *IS* a big dick.  I'm pretty sure my initial impression was more correct than reality. 

That said, I bought the song off iTunes.  I hate myself for it, but there it is.  :/

Posted by: Beth at September 02, 2013 09:11 AM (kBxk7)

Posted by: JSC at September 02, 2013 10:54 AM (JDyoT)

1010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06JvRsVZbpo#t=289 Link didn't take in the prior :-(

Posted by: JSC at September 02, 2013 10:55 AM (JDyoT)

1011

I watched the video and caught some elements in there that felt like nods to other videos that were similar.

 

The sunglasses and poses as well as the composition of the videos was making me think of George Michael (look at I want your Sex and Faith)  While certainly self-promoting, he wasn't nearly as heroic as Thicke.

 

The women's expressions and so forth made me think of a Robert Palmer video though even though he had a classier way of exploiting women.

Thanks for posting this link.  If I hadn't seen that video I never would have understood Miley Cyrus's inspiration to wear a nude swimsuit on stage. I might have thought it was her idea until I saw that video and now I understand that she just wanted to be like one of the women she saw in that video.  (I wonder if she realized she was volunteering to be degraded on stage?)

 

 

Posted by: RAR at September 06, 2013 10:29 PM (Xqyhu)

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