August 31, 2014
— Open Blogger
Napa County Library After Earthquake
Good morning morons and moronettes and welcome to AoSHQ's stately, prestigious, and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread. The only AoSHQ thread that is so hoity-toity, pants are required.
Ah, Thread of Book
With mood subdued
With pace sedate
Or lurkly look
Thread of Book
Thanks to moron "mindful webworker" for posting this fun poem in last week's comments.
Another thing I like about the book thread is that I can come back to it after 8 or 12 hours and there may be new comments posted. On last week's thread, for instance, the comments extended into the evening, even to the next day. It takes a long time for the book thread to die.
Last Sunday's earthquake in Northern California really did a number on the libraries in Napa, my old stomping ground:
"There is lots of work to be done -- lots of shelving to do! We are closed, but we hope to get back with you as soon as possible with the doors open," says director of Napa County Library Services Danis Kreimeier in a video posted on the system's Facebook page. "Be safe, take care of yourself, and we'll see you real soon."
All Napa County libraries were closed Monday for cleanup.
More On Superman
Last week, I mentioned that a pristine copy of Action Comics #1 was put up for auction on eBay. Guess how much it sold for:
An original Superman comic, sold for 10 cents at a West Virginia newsstand in 1938, was purchased at auction Sunday night for $3.2 million, making it the most expensive comic book ever sold.
I wondered how it survived for so long in such good shape:
Purchased off a newsstand by a man from West Virginia in 1938, the comic book was stored in a cedar chest at high altitude for four decades. When the man died, a collector purchased it from his estate.
The 3.2 million auction price far exceeding earlier purchases:
The previous record for a comic book was $2.1 million, for another Action Comics No. 1, sold by the actor Nicolas Cage in 2011.
The German submarine glided through the icy water past New York City, its captain noting the glowing skyscrapers of Manhattan and then Coney Island's brilliantly-lit Ferris wheel. Soon his lookouts spotted a large oil tanker, steaming ahead without escort. Maneuvering into position, the captain easily acquired his target, framed by the city's lights, and fired a torpedo into the vessel, sending a fireball into the sky worthy of America's most dazzling city.
This isn't some "alt history" sci-fi novel, this really happened. The Burning Shore: How Hitler's U-Boats Brought World War II to America by Ed Offley recounts a rather sobering historical story, that WWII was not fought exclusively in Europe or in the remote Pacific theater, but at times, it came dangerously close to home. Far a period of time in 1942, German U-boats pretty much had their run of the Atlantic off the eastern seaboard, attacking and sinking shipping with impunity. Over 200 ships and tankers were sunk and hundreds of sailors were killed.
I must confess my own ignorance of this. I knew that the U-boats had scored some hits over on this side of the Atlantic, but I never knew it was this bad.
One of the Amazon reviews is by the son of Horst Degen, commander of U-701, who inflicted his share of damage to Allied shipping during this time.
Offley has another book, Turning the Tide: How a Small Band of Allied Sailors Defeated the U-boats and Won the Battle of the Atlantic, that also looks interesting.
Nook: "I'm Not Dead Yet"
Even though Barnes and Noble is going to spin off its money-losing Nook Media Division early next year, they managed to strike a deal with Samsung to co-brand a color Android device. According to the advertising-copy-disguised-as-a-news-story article:
Samsung Electronics America and NOOK Media, a subsidiary of Barnes & Noble, Inc., today announced the introduction of the new Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 NOOK, a 7-inch tablet combining Samsungs leading technology and NOOKs extraordinary content and reading experience. This new co-branded tablet offers the best of both worlds: the first-ever full-featured Android tablet optimized for reading. The Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 NOOK is now available in more than 660 Barnes & Noble bookstores and online at www.bn.com and www.nook.com for $179 after a $20 instant rebate, and includes more than $200 in free content from the NOOK Store including bestselling books, popular TV shows, top magazines and more.
I think this is a great idea, and I hope it works, but unfortunately, this is most likely going to be too late to have any kind of a market impact. Like a tired and flagging long-distance runner, the Nook has fallen too far behind to catch up.
I wonder if I could run the Kindle app on of those Galaxy/Nook things? It's an Android device, so I ought to be able to. Because, you know, that would be, like, ironic.
A Waterproof E-Reader?
Kobo announced Wednesday that it would launch a waterproof e-reader, the Kobo Aura H2O. The device will be available for preorder Sept. 1 for delivery beginning Oct. 1...It's the first official waterproof e-reader to be released (aftermarket waterproofed Kindles are available).
Just how waterproof is it?
The Kobo Aura H2O should take care of casual concerns of the e-reader getting splashed or dunked. As long as its port is closed, it can stay up to 3 feet underwater for up to 30 minutes.
I Did Not Know That
For some reason, I find linking to Buzzfeed distasteful, but I have to admit there are some interesting items on this 34 Facts You Probably Didnt Know About "The Lord Of The Rings" Trilogy list, some have to do with the movie adaptation, some with the books themselves. For example:
21. Back in the 60s, the Beatles wanted to make a movie adaptation of Lord of the Rings, with Stanley Kubrick directing, but Tolkien killed the project.
The source for this is apparently LOTR director Peter Jackson, but I have no idea where he heard it from.
A couple of others:
1. Nicolas Cage passed up the role of Aragorn because of "family obligations."
And I think we can all breathe a sigh of relief over that.
24. Tolkien believed Sam was the chief hero of the story.
I can kind of see this, I think. And by the way, Christopher Lee is a complete badass:
22. [He] has recorded and released several metal albums. Including a Christmas album
Dude's like 90 years old, and he's putting out metal albums.
So I might as well continue on the path of shame by linking to another buzzfeed list, 11 Things You Learn Your First Month As A Bookseller
The Case For Books
7 minute Youtube video on building a bookcase. Excellent stop-motion animation that shows a number of nifty woodworking tools being used.
If you're a book-lover (and really, why would you be reading this if you weren't?), you really need to check out the Dover Publications site. Mrs. Muse and I have bought books from them for years, and they've always had an interesting, eclectic line of titles that they publish. For instance, they publish a lot of older, classic books, so back in the day, back before the internet, and Amazon, and public domain books on Kindle, Dover is where you went to pick up cheap reprints. We used Dover a lot when were homeschooling our children.
Here's a taste: on the home page, there's The Early Science Fiction of Philip K. Dick on sale for $4.98, also a collection of World War One Short Stories for $4.00 and The Federalist Papers for $5.50.
You don't get much of a price break on Dover's e-books, but I guess that's pretty much par for the course everywhere you go. And since I've never bought one, I don't know if they're actual e-books, or just scanned in .pdf documents.
But the site is worth bookmarking and browsing every month or so.
What I'm Reading
I'm on the fourth and final novel of the 'Giver' series, Son, and here we're back in the colorless, attenuated world of the first novel. Here, parents don't have and raise their children, but rather, specially selected "breeders" are artificially inseminated, carry the pregnancy, but immediately after birth, the infants are whisked away to a hillary-clinton-it-takes-a-village type of "nurturing center" where they're raised by professional caregivers until they're old enough to be assigned to parents who aren't really married, but are assigned to each other. In this story, a birth mother finds out, due to some procedural sloppiness, that Baby #36 is actually hers. I don't think I want to let Mrs. Muse read this, because she might find reading about the heartache of a mother with empty arms, who has bonded with her child, but now the child is gone, too hard to take.
So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.
What have you all been reading this week? H
Posted by: Epobirs at August 31, 2014 04:44 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: Nicholas Cage at August 31, 2014 04:44 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Perdogg at August 31, 2014 04:47 AM (o6/Pl)
Posted by: Adam at August 31, 2014 04:48 AM (HstNY)
The funny thing was all of the old items we found during the cleanup. Shoplifters often chicken out and put the items they were planning to steal in odd places rather than be seen putting them back were they came from. Illogical but saw enough of it to know it was a real behavior. We found books that were almost a decade old, based on their cover prices.
Posted by: Epobirs at August 31, 2014 04:54 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: HR -- SMOD 2016 or else at August 31, 2014 04:55 AM (hO8IJ)
I haven't been reading much fiction lately, but the non-fiction has been pretty good. I finished Stephen Clarke's 'One Thousand Years of Annoying the French' last week, which was pretty funny. It's an easy read about the history of the France/England conflict from the Norman Conquest through today. The author is slightly impressed with himself, for no logical reason, but I'd still recommend it to anybody looking for basic information about limeys and cheese-eating surrender monkeys.
Then I re-read 'Inside the Victorian Home', by Judith Flanders, which was a fascinating look through the rooms of a typical Victorian house, and the impact of domesticity on Victorian people. Also gets my recommendation, but its not for the faint hearted, long and very in-depth.
Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at August 31, 2014 04:58 AM (B+8EN)
Adm King's "Tenth Fleet" had exactly zero ships. It was the intel and co-ordination operation that went after the wolf packs -- and copied their tactics for our boats in the Pacific. Adm King was called out of retirement for the job, and remarked, "When they get into trouble, they send for the SOB's." He was. He won.
Both the intracoastal waterway and the web of pipelines were a response to the Happy Times carnage on the East Coast. They built a 1700-mile pipeline from Texas to Ohio in less than a year. Now that's laying some pipe, brother.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2014 04:59 AM (xq1UY)
An even earlier attack on the US by Germany is largely unknown to people today. Black Tom Island, a small bit of land in New York Harbor, contained an ammunition depot that blew out windows in Manhatten when it blew up. It was soon determined to be sabotage and thus began a twenty year quest for reparations from Germany. These reparations were one of the debts Hitler repudiated soon after taking power.
The link above is to the book 'The Detonators: The Secret Plot to Destroy America and an Epic Hunt for Justice' by chad Millman.
Posted by: Epobirs at August 31, 2014 05:01 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: Laura_PH at August 31, 2014 05:01 AM (ew9ys)
Interesting Russian sub-plot, and events in Ukraine seem to be right out of today's headlines.
And as I mentioned yesterday, for insight into how consumer goods travel east/west, and vulnerability, "TrainMan" by P.T. Deutermann is outstanding.
Another of his books, "Darkside", describes certain physical aspects of the Naval Academy in a manner that any Graduate would recognize.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2014 05:02 AM (IOKzp)
Also want to give thanks to Mr. O'muse for posting about the book 'The Terror'.
Ordered and received it. Boy, it's one of the thickest paperbacks I've ever had, but should be a good read.
Posted by: HH at August 31, 2014 05:02 AM (XXwdv)
Do they talk about the poison wallpaper?
Posted by: Epobirs at August 31, 2014 05:02 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: Jmel at August 31, 2014 05:03 AM (cfFqn)
It's available PDF, but none of those links look live to me, from here.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2014 05:04 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: mindful webworker - just a few things more.... at August 31, 2014 05:05 AM (ec4Wg)
A good cover can also greatly improve the survivability of those droppings. I consider it essential for any tablet type device.
Posted by: Epobirs at August 31, 2014 05:05 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) [/i] [/s] [/u] at August 31, 2014 05:06 AM (vSDwv)
Posted by: Zombie Myles Standish at August 31, 2014 05:06 AM (GgGgG)
Between '1984' and 'Brave New World', sometimes I wonder if I'm living in some bizarre form of the Matrix, where fiction and reality have become intertwined. What bizarre times we live in.
Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at August 31, 2014 05:06 AM (B+8EN)
Now owned by Amazon, they were my go-to site for out of print books.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 31, 2014 05:07 AM (IOKzp)
I'm an Old Scouter. My dad was a scoutmaster when I was born. One week he checked his calendar: on the seven nights, he was required at eight meetings.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2014 05:08 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 31, 2014 05:08 AM (u8GsB)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2014 05:11 AM (mx5oN)
Also, I understand the big thing for U-Boat captains to do was to take pictures of the Golden Gate Bridge from inside the bay.
Posted by: kindltot at August 31, 2014 05:11 AM (t//F+)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2014 05:12 AM (mx5oN)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 31, 2014 05:13 AM (GDulk)
Posted by: rickl at August 31, 2014 05:16 AM (sdi6R)
Melvil Dewey was a spelling reformer -- spelled like a moron's spelchek -- and helped establish Home Economics, but you're thinking of John Dewey, right?
He defeated Truman.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2014 05:17 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at August 31, 2014 05:17 AM (B+8EN)
Posted by: Yep, I'm a nerd... at August 31, 2014 05:17 AM (FCgaq)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 31, 2014 05:18 AM (9y18Y)
The U-boats made it through the Panama Canal and over to the West Coast? During war time? That's quite a voyage.
That doesn't smell right
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2014 05:19 AM (yRdR4)
Posted by: Laura_PH at August 31, 2014 05:20 AM (ew9ys)
While one might eventually forgive the Germans for that strategy, it being War and all, and any good German will tell you it was a British Intelligence plot, the many governments of Mexico continue to act as if the offer still stands.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2014 05:20 AM (xq1UY)
No, I hear she's on life support now.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2014 05:21 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Ringo Starr as Frodo in The Beatles "Lord of the Rings" at August 31, 2014 05:21 AM (KBvAm)
Posted by: ringo Starr as Frodo in The Beatles "Lord of the Rings" at August 31, 2014 05:22 AM (KBvAm)
Posted by: DaveA at August 31, 2014 05:23 AM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Laura_PH at August 31, 2014 05:23 AM (ew9ys)
Posted by: Northernlurker at August 31, 2014 05:28 AM (0oN6k)
1) Of course you aren't going to read them. At least half are garbage no self-respecting person would want to read. Their value is for trading to collectors for cash or for stuff you do want to have.
2) If you don't have a title or an author, you will take what I find based and your description. Seriously, buy it or never set foot in here again.
3) Are these women cognitively impaired?
4) Most of the customers here are NPR listeners? I quit.
5) No. Just no.
6) The last thing we ever talked about was books. At least, not the ones we were expected to sell. (This may have something to do with there no longer being a Crown Books chain.)
7) If someone presented me with such a fool's errand, if I didn't immediately know what they wanted I would deny the existence of any such book, even if it turned out to be on the display in front of the counter.
Fortunately for me, I did know everything. At least in those areas that were my specialty. We sold more SF than the rest of the stores in the district put together because people would drive past two other locations to consult with me on what to read next.
9) Never happen. The search is abandoned the moment the customer exists, unless you know them and LIKE them enough to call them.
10) They didn't have those in my day, or they were reserved for the kind of store that welcomes NPR listeners.
11) Must be the NPR listeners. They get shitty cell phone reception.
Posted by: Epobirs at August 31, 2014 05:28 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: rickl at August 31, 2014 05:28 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 31, 2014 05:28 AM (GDulk)
I don't want this to turn into a rant about the public school system, and how I succeeded in spite of it, but I guarantee you that half a dozen people, maximum, in my graduating class could tell you what the Zimmerman Telegram was. I have a vague idea, only because I'm a total nerd and I think history is extremely memorable, and worth remembering.
Still chuckling to myself about the German captain who bought an American newspaper, just because he could. That takes a set of brass ones, for sure.
Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at August 31, 2014 05:29 AM (B+8EN)
Posted by: NCKate at August 31, 2014 05:30 AM (y0gf0)
Perhaps it was Japanese U-Boats. We know those paid a few visits to coastal CA during the war.
Posted by: Epobirs at August 31, 2014 05:30 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at August 31, 2014 05:30 AM (dJCJQ)
Right now I am in a Nordic crime fiction period and I am living in Iceland, Denmark, Sweden and Norway.
Posted by: bossy barbara at August 31, 2014 05:32 AM (lchei)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 31, 2014 05:32 AM (GDulk)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 31, 2014 05:32 AM (R8hU8)
Perfect example of the difference between syntax and Sin Tax.
Those Germans can sure hold a grudge. Runs in my family, both sides.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at August 31, 2014 05:34 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Mekan at August 31, 2014 05:37 AM (3677V)
I heard this story. It was WWI and America was not officially in the war, yet. The German commander bought a newspaper for the shipping schedules, so he knew where they were going to be, so he could target them.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2014 05:37 AM (yRdR4)
Posted by: Lincolntf at August 31, 2014 05:37 AM (2cS/G)
And in the early years of WWI the US was happy hunting ground for all kinds of pro-German espionage and sabotage activities. Someone up-thread mentioned a book about German activities in NY - earlier this year I reviewed Dark Invasion 1915, by Howard Blum. It was very good, and very detailed about exactly what kind of shenanigans the German government was up to in ostensibly neutral America.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at August 31, 2014 05:37 AM (Asjr7)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 31, 2014 05:38 AM (mvenn)
Now that sounds more plausible.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2014 05:38 AM (yRdR4)
Posted by: stace , Queen of Typos at August 31, 2014 05:39 AM (9PXzx)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding the comfy chair at August 31, 2014 05:40 AM (+1T7c)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at August 31, 2014 05:41 AM (dJCJQ)
Posted by: Hanoverfist at August 31, 2014 05:42 AM (ecN6u)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at August 31, 2014 05:42 AM (8MlTP)
Posted by: Blackford Oakes at August 31, 2014 05:43 AM (KVnkf)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2014 05:43 AM (mx5oN)
Not intentionally bragging here, but my high school was considered good for its size/funding, whatever that means. It turned out some of the most moronic people I've ever had the misfortune of interacting with. Granted, there were a few decent folks, but most of them were complete airheads, even the smart ones. And I count myself among those airheads, only I kept quiet, so no one realized how ridiculous I was.
Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at August 31, 2014 05:44 AM (B+8EN)
Posted by: --- at August 31, 2014 05:45 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 31, 2014 05:45 AM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at August 31, 2014 05:47 AM (dJCJQ)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 31, 2014 05:48 AM (GDulk)
Progress so far -
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at August 31, 2014 05:48 AM (Asjr7)
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2014 05:49 AM (yRdR4)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2014 05:50 AM (mx5oN)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at August 31, 2014 05:50 AM (dJCJQ)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 31, 2014 05:51 AM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: stace , Queen of Typos at August 31, 2014 05:53 AM (9PXzx)
I read Pickwick Papers long ago and want to read it on Kindle at some point, one of favorite Dickens pieces, though long. Did recently watch an old black-and-white British movie version that I thought captured the spirit of it pretty well.
Read Sue Grafton's K Is For Killer, a Kinsey Millhone mystery and enjoyed it quite a bit, like detective candy.
Listened to Dan Simmon's Hyperion, a very good fantasy/sci-fi story that embeds a handful of interesting shorter stories within it. But no ending. Will have to continue the series soon to see where it goes.
Posted by: waelse1 at August 31, 2014 05:53 AM (x+P8L)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 31, 2014 05:54 AM (mvenn)
Totally agree. I'm also amazed at the sheer lack of life skills that we were taught, like balancing a checkbook, understanding how the credit system works, basic human biology/anatomy, the electoral process, etc. If I'm ever in a position to home school my -currently non-existent- kids, I'll do it in a heartbeat. Not because I'm a good teacher, but because I want them to actually learn to use their brains.
Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at August 31, 2014 05:58 AM (B+8EN)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 31, 2014 05:59 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Epobirs at August 31, 2014 06:00 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 31, 2014 06:02 AM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: stace , Queen of Typos at August 31, 2014 06:03 AM (9PXzx)
Posted by: biancaneve at August 31, 2014 06:03 AM (6Turu)
That is all.
Posted by: Craig Allen at August 31, 2014 06:07 AM (s5wm7)
Posted by: Yep, I'm a nerd... at August 31, 2014 06:07 AM (FCgaq)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 31, 2014 06:08 AM (GDulk)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 31, 2014 06:08 AM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 31, 2014 06:11 AM (GDulk)
Looks more like Choom Boy's personality profile to me.
On topic: Just starting Eric Larson's In the Garden of Beasts," a true story about the experiences of Ambassador Dodd's wife and daughter (mostly) in 1933 Berlin. So far, interesting, which I expect from Larson.
After that, a bio of Mussolini and, from the local Book Barn (free books!) a Tony Hillerman mystery and Dr. Strangelove.
Good times. As long as you don't read the papers or watch teevee.
Posted by: MrScribbler at August 31, 2014 06:12 AM (dDzOj)
Hello from Way Down Here and yes I'm an 'ette (not Annette)
This week I've decided to actually read the stuff I buy for my beloved Kindle because I'm a Kindle book shopaholic and the unread stuff is building up...
So I've been reading a freebie from Kindle "The Complete Father Brown Mysteries Collection" by GK Chesterton and it's been enjoyable reading some definitely pre PC writing - refreshing really as I have reached the limit of my PC tolerance
I'm heartily sick of heroic women, stupid men and absence of any moral virtues in some of the books I start reading, so I stick with history, old books and interesting people's biographies and a few murder mysteries written by some good authors
If anyone can help me find a book recently written about the Battle of Midway - this was mentioned here or perhaps on an Aussie blog and I just can't remember the author or the actual title of the book
Apparently it's a great read so if anyone can help that would be much appreciated!
Posted by: aussie at August 31, 2014 06:12 AM (EGwwB)
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 31, 2014 06:13 AM (GDulk)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 31, 2014 06:13 AM (QBm1P)
Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at August 31, 2014 06:14 AM (DA2Hm)
Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2014 06:15 AM (0cMkb)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at August 31, 2014 06:16 AM (dJCJQ)
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at August 31, 2014 06:18 AM (Asjr7)
Posted by: naturalfake at August 31, 2014 06:18 AM (0cMkb)
Sarah Hoyt got the ball rolling on this one, so yeah there's a lot of human wave books in there (which is a good thing in my opinion). Been spending some cash on a lot of these books myself, actually.
Posted by: Craig Allen at August 31, 2014 06:19 AM (s5wm7)
Posted by: Yep, I'm a nerd... at August 31, 2014 11:07 AM (FCgaq)
My parents did the same thing. If they only knew the can of worms they were opening... My family has a tendency to save things: my dad hoards tools, my brother hoards old cars, I hoard books. In my defense, I've read 99% of them and I'm currently working on the ones I haven't cracked open yet.
Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at August 31, 2014 06:24 AM (B+8EN)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at August 31, 2014 06:25 AM (dJCJQ)
Posted by: Tuna at August 31, 2014 06:28 AM (hpWy+)
Posted by: Elinor, who usually looks lurkily at August 31, 2014 06:30 AM (95xxa)
Posted by: stutterk at August 31, 2014 06:42 AM (95gQx)
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at August 31, 2014 06:42 AM (2buaQ)
(a) anything by Rear Admiral Danial V Gallery. He was a naval aviator and pocket-carrier carrier (the USS Guadalcanal) task force commander in the Atlantic fighting U-boats, and a genuine character. He was commanding the ship that attacked, boarded, and captured a German U-boat, the U-505.
(b) Steel Boats, Iron Hearts, by Hans Goebeler - a book written by a common kreigsmarine sailor in the Atlantic, writing of his several near-death adventures... aboard the U-505.
You see both sides of the battle, not from a high-level strategic / academic level, but from two guys who were there, doing it, with literal gun-sights on each other.
I can't recommend them enough
Posted by: Rolf at August 31, 2014 06:43 AM (be0G3)
Posted by: Tuna at August 31, 2014 06:47 AM (hpWy+)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 31, 2014 07:00 AM (QBm1P)
Posted by: biancaneve at August 31, 2014 07:02 AM (6Turu)
Posted by: biancaneve at August 31, 2014 07:03 AM (6Turu)
Yeah, well, the world just hasn't been the same since Lindsay Books closed.
Posted by: Anachronda at August 31, 2014 07:05 AM (o78gS)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 31, 2014 07:06 AM (fIv/H)
Posted by: Mary at August 31, 2014 07:11 AM (nzmxZ)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 31, 2014 07:14 AM (QBm1P)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 31, 2014 07:14 AM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: real joe at August 31, 2014 07:22 AM (xXhgd)
Were Grant's memoirs any good? Not that I need any more books, but it might be nice to add some primary source material to my collection.
Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at August 31, 2014 07:27 AM (B+8EN)
According to many morons here, Grant's memoirs are the gold standard of presidential memoirs.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2014 07:46 AM (yRdR4)
U-boats Offshore by Edwin P. Hoyt. Originally published in 1978 about the early months off the American shoreline.
U-boats At War by Harold Busch. Originally published in 1955. Busch is a U-boat veteran.
Shadow Divers by Robert Kurson. 2005. About diving on the sunken U-869 off the Eastern seaboard.
Tin Cans by Theodore Roscoe on US destroyer actions in WWII.
Online there is: uboat.net
If you are in Germany, there is the small North Sea town of Cuxhaven which has a U-boat museum. http://uboat.net/special/archiv/contacts.htm
Of course there is even a movie about a Gulf of Mexico sunk U-boat called Assault on a Queen. Starred Frank Sinatra and a plan to rob the RMS Queen Mary.
This concludes today's episode of what is in my library.
Of course this morning I finished writing a 1,200 word short story. A bit Twilight Zone-ish. In which I put a real politician into Hell. Not the fire and brimstone type, one made specifically for him.
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2014 07:47 AM (whKdw)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2014 12:47 PM (whKdw)
A place where only honest people are allowed to pontificate? 'Cause that /would/ be cruel.
Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at August 31, 2014 08:00 AM (B+8EN)
Posted by: Insert Clever Name Here at August 31, 2014 08:03 AM (SS8WM)
Posted by: Epobirs at August 31, 2014 08:18 AM (IdCqF)
Posted by: Gem at August 31, 2014 08:20 AM (zw+pb)
Posted by: Gem at August 31, 2014 01:20 PM (zw+pb)
The only non-tinfoil hat-ish reason I can think of is that they expect parents to teach basic life skills. Which would be ideal, except we live in a world where someone would have to teach the parents first.
My high school offered some of those classes, but the mentality was that only the not-so-smart kids took classes like that, when in fact, they should have been required for everybody.
Posted by: right wing whippersnapper at August 31, 2014 08:34 AM (B+8EN)
Posted by: Croaker at August 31, 2014 08:37 AM (QSntp)
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at August 31, 2014 08:54 AM (QKIQb)
Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at August 31, 2014 08:55 AM (TT3D3)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 31, 2014 09:05 AM (QBm1P)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 31, 2014 09:07 AM (QBm1P)
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2014 09:07 AM (whKdw)
Posted by: LochLomondFarms at August 31, 2014 09:16 AM (+3H69)
Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 31, 2014 09:29 AM (QBm1P)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 31, 2014 09:40 AM (rAeZm)
The clock is ticking ...
I bet the DNC wishes the election were today so they could limit their losses.
Posted by: Donald Segretti at August 31, 2014 09:42 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at August 31, 2014 09:43 AM (rAeZm)
Thanks and enjoy the rest of your summer. http://amzn.to/1hUOwFa
Posted by: Rail Black at August 31, 2014 10:17 AM (k7cFB)
Posted by: Elinor, who usually looks lurkily at August 31, 2014 10:31 AM (95xxa)
SocietyIs2Blame : I agree that it is better that we were spared Kubrick's LOTR - and along-those-same-lines I think it is better we were spared a Dune movie by Jodorowsky.
Posted by: Insert Clever Name Here at August 31, 2014 10:50 AM (SS8WM)
One of the best books on the German U-Boat attacks on North America is Michael Gannon's _Operation Drumbeat_ (1992). Long story short, Gannon demolishes this sentiment. King was a blinkered, unimaginative bully who inexcusably turned down vast amounts of free help and intel from the Royal Navy, who had finely honed their antisubmarine tactics in the first years of the war. This led to vast loss of life and huge, preventable damage to the Allied war effort. Gannon describes the early U-Boat attacks on US shipping as "the Atlantic Pearl Harbor" and makes the case that if Adm. Kimmel was removed from command and demoted for the Pacific catastrophe, the far more preventable Atlantic massacre should have ended King's career.
Posted by: P.M. at August 31, 2014 10:54 AM (MCVbD)
Posted by: m3 at August 31, 2014 10:55 AM (x4XdM)
Yup. Born and raised in SF Bay Area. Spent high school years in Napa. Moved to Oregon in 1983.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2014 11:45 AM (yRdR4)
Posted by: kalel666 at August 31, 2014 12:01 PM (pM5Z0)
Posted by: lindafell at August 31, 2014 12:49 PM (nKVlf)
Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at August 31, 2014 01:09 PM (afLO3)
Posted by: Erowmero at August 31, 2014 01:37 PM (go5uR)
I'm on the fourth book; I think each book in the series is better than the one previous to it.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2014 04:45 PM (yRdR4)
I'll bet if she did some creative Google searching, such as "appraise comic book value" or "comic book sell or auction", that'd give her a good start.
Posted by: OregonMuse at August 31, 2014 04:48 PM (yRdR4)
Posted by: tony at August 31, 2014 05:45 PM (eb9ok)
My family has always been acutely aware of the success of the German U-Boat campaign. See, my Grandmother actually singularly uncovered a NAZI spy ring led by her own boss, working in maritime shipping. She was very careful as she didn't know who to talk to at first because she didn't know who all was involved and to prove her suspicions she had to intercept and read classified documents, so she could have been brought up on espionage charges if she didn't have air tight proof. Even then she could still take a fall.
After she got the proof and turned the spies in, she was recruited by the Government to read German prisoner mail and detect coded communications and inject misdirection.
I know, it seems too much to be true, but there it is and it is true.
Posted by: TSgt Ciz.net at August 31, 2014 07:52 PM (af5xa)
After she got the proof and turned the spies in, she was recruited by the Government to read German prisoner mail and detect coded communications and inject misdirection.
Dude. You need to write a book about this. It's a story that's begging to be told.
I'll even feature your book on the book thread. : )
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 01, 2014 06:07 AM (yRdR4)
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