December 30, 2015

Special One-Time-Only Double Post Open Thread
— Ace

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Proposition: Empire Strikes Back is overrated, and Temple of Doom is underrated.

True or false?

Posted by: Ace at 03:10 PM | Comments (39)
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1 Yay! My thread!

Posted by: scorecard at December 30, 2015 03:20 PM (PGh+Q)

2 so apparently carrie fisher said everyone on the "ice world set" was doing blow. Ice world? it's called hoth, you cokehead.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 30, 2015 03:33 PM (AkOaV)

3 First one? 

Empire Strikes Back.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 30, 2015 03:34 PM (T78UI)

4 Half true. Empire is amazing. Temple is also really good.

Posted by: David at December 30, 2015 03:35 PM (83laC)

5 Love the roller coaster ride thru the mine. I saw it on this freaking enormous screen and I admit I got a little nauseous after the 3 or 4 times.

Posted by: Pecan Scandi at December 30, 2015 03:40 PM (auXLq)

6 Both films are good (I watched Empire on Christmas day). So the under/over depends on what people think of them, and people are idiots.

Posted by: Pixy and the Hamsters at December 30, 2015 03:40 PM (2yngH)

7 Proposition: Empire Strikes Back is overrated, and Temple of Doom is underrated. True or false? Actually, the correct answer is: BURN THE WITCH.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 30, 2015 03:42 PM (o98Jz)

8 Also, the panel of judges has concluded that SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH is also acceptable.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 30, 2015 03:43 PM (o98Jz)

9 8

Posted by: scorecard at December 30, 2015 03:44 PM (PGh+Q)

10 Missed again

Posted by: scorecard at December 30, 2015 03:44 PM (PGh+Q)

11 Boo-yeah!

Posted by: Bargain Basement fluffy at December 30, 2015 03:46 PM (AfsKp)

12 False.

False on both counts.

ESB is the best SW film, beating out the new one easily.

Temple of Doom was OK, but not underrated.

Posted by: MacGruber at December 30, 2015 03:49 PM (mp5R5)

13 The problem with Temple of Doom was that it had a really lame MacGuffin. Whar exactly were the Sankara Stones and what were they supposed to do? I couldn't get past that.

Posted by: Jon at December 30, 2015 03:51 PM (HA+/6)

14 13 The problem with Temple of Doom was that it had a really lame MacGuffin. Whar exactly were the Sankara Stones and what were they supposed to do? I couldn't get past that. Posted by: Jon at December 30, 2015 08:51 PM (HA+/6) You used them to feed crocodiles.

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2015 03:54 PM (MQEz6)

15 No, ESB is not over rated. The problem with Temple was Willie Scott and her incessant whining.

Posted by: CDR M at December 30, 2015 03:58 PM (SCx0h)

16 Cosby suddenly thrust into the spotlight bigger than ever. Media will be occupied for many days about nothing else.

Drudge says, in red,  "TOMORROW: Obama new executive action will be printed as 'rule' in federal register. Allows for huge expansion in number of alien work permits issued annually...developing..."

Coincidences are funny things.

Posted by: Doomed, questioning the timing at December 30, 2015 03:59 PM (bGLSw)

17 Empire Strikes Back was great. The best Star Wars movie, bar none. Temple of Doom needed a less whiney female lead.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 30, 2015 03:59 PM (u82oZ)

18 Posted by: Doomed, questioning the timing at December 30, 2015 08:59 PM (bGLSw) He can do that in Hawaii while golfing?

Posted by: CDR M at December 30, 2015 04:00 PM (SCx0h)

19 19 CDR M ValJar runs the trains in the WH.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 30, 2015 04:02 PM (u82oZ)

20 19

Gee, y'know I just can't figure it out. Well, good night.

Oh, just one more thing...

Posted by: Columbo, stops in doorway, turns at December 30, 2015 04:03 PM (bGLSw)

21 Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 30, 2015 09:02 PM (u82oZ) Yeah, yeah I know.

Posted by: CDR M at December 30, 2015 04:06 PM (SCx0h)

22 Proposition: Empire Strikes Back is overrated, and Temple of Doom is underrated. True or false?
Bladerunner was better than both. If you deny that, you are worse than Hitler.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 30, 2015 04:06 PM (/rY/K)

23 Back-Strike of the Doom Empire Temple, on the other hand, rocked from beginning to end.

Posted by: filbert at December 30, 2015 04:08 PM (s5o+q)

24 19: Our Eric Cartman President is all like "whateveh, I'll do what I want!". What an amazing and stupid time to be alive.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 30, 2015 04:10 PM (/rY/K)

25 I don't think Temple of Doom was underrated. The plot wasn't as strong as Raiders, it had corny and unbelievable action sequences like the lifeboat falling out of the plane (yes I know most things in the series are unbelievable, but some things you can't suspend disbelief for), and it was more gruesome but less compelling. Empire, on the other hand, was superior to Star Wars in every way.

Posted by: CCC at December 30, 2015 04:13 PM (VDlOP)

26 I hated Empire Strikes Back because it didn't resolve anything. It was all cliffhanger, andbyou knew it would be years before you found out what happened. Was Darth really Luke's father? What would happen to Han? Would Luke survive the car crash?

Posted by: OCBill at December 30, 2015 04:19 PM (oDxFZ)

27 Empire need less training sequence- granted they avoided the 80's music to go with the training sequence but it just goes on too long and feels too mundane for granting Jedi powers-Not to say what would feel more special to me but running through a swamp with a puppet on Like's back isn't it. Watched Temple of Doom in the last week- I dislike it more than ever. It is a thematic mess, unable to decide if it wants to be slapstick or uber dark and manages to combine the two in a way that just doesn't work for me- it's like the anti-Evil Dead 2. Then there is the whole issue of Short Round- he seems to exist just to show off some father qualities in Indy and then he vanishes completely in the movie franchise- not even a picture on Indy's desk in Crystal Skull. And don't forget the completely muddled villain- the audience was primed to dislike Belloq not just because of the Nazi affiliation (though that helped) but because from the opening sequence we saw he stood in the heroes way and stole a hard-won treasure from him. In Temple, the writers tried to just say "evil death cult" and think that covered everything as if "Nazi" was the only attribute in Raiders that had the audience rooting for Indy. Combine that with the whole hypnotism thing that made the prince character not a villain after Short Round first beat him then burned him (and no idea on the advisor guy, was he a victim or willing perpetrator). Yes, the enslaving kids is bad obviously, but without a face to that practice, it is harder to cheer (in a movie) the defeat of the person behind it when they come across as simply a figurehead and cheering the downfall of the system just wasn't as satisfying as Belloq's face melting.

Posted by: Bete resigned to just watching the world burn at December 30, 2015 04:21 PM (Ojki1)

28 I know I'll get banned for this but even as a kid, Star Wars died for me when they brought out the Ewoks. ROTJ was a 2 hour toy commerical. Yeah, I said it.

Posted by: Doomed at December 30, 2015 04:22 PM (bGLSw)

29 1. No

2. Yes, but it could be made into a decent flick if you edit about 15 minutes here and there. Oh, and cut Capshaw's vocals by 96%.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i][/b] at December 30, 2015 04:23 PM (9YDUz)

30 "Whar exactly were the Sankara Stones and what were they supposed to do?"

They make magical instant coffee.

Posted by: Doomed at December 30, 2015 04:24 PM (bGLSw)

31 Sorry CCC, but the most unbelievable part of TOD was the huge gap in the mine track, and Indy has them just duck their heads and the cart just makes the jump, instead of them crashing to their deaths. On this subject, there can be no debate.

Posted by: Hoss at December 30, 2015 04:25 PM (ncTJy)

32 "Whar exactly were the Sankara Stones and what were they supposed to do?" They make magical instant coffee. Posted by: Doomed at December 30, 2015 09:24 PM (bGLSw) Then there was that book Sword of Sankara.

Posted by: filbert at December 30, 2015 04:35 PM (s5o+q)

33 Sorry CCC, but the most unbelievable part of TOD was the huge gap in the mine track, and Indy has them just duck their heads and the cart just makes the jump, instead of them crashing to their deaths.

On this subject, there can be no debate.

Posted by: Hoss


And the jump from 14,000 ft in an inflatable raft onto the Himalayas was believable?

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i][/b] at December 30, 2015 04:37 PM (9YDUz)

34 The Empire Strikes Back IS over-rated.  Temple of Doom still sucks, however.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at December 30, 2015 04:38 PM (S2VsH)

35 The spiky-ceiling-crush room full of insects ended with more of a roll of the eyes than horror. And I thought Spielberg must be a genius for doling out exactly as much of something as what the audience needed. A bit like shooting the swordsman in Cairo from Raiders, he throws out an easy obstacle just to mix it up. Empire is one of the best movies of all time, I'm sure IMDB will back me up on this. But this was a challenge for the franchise, ?where do you go from there? I notice Terminator is very similar. It has a fresh and well-executed original movie, an earth-shattering great sequel, and then a series of duds.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 30, 2015 04:49 PM (VdICR)

36 Nothing tops the SW Christmas Special. Nothing. Everything else is vomit made out of crap by comparison.

*whistles*

Posted by: anonymous crap stirrer at December 30, 2015 04:52 PM (bGLSw)

37 The difference between a cult classic and a seminal work is invisible to the audience. The magical idiom must be camouflaged for it to work. There is no checklist that separates The Matrix from Johnny Mnemonic. For the love of Crom, can we please have the new Star Wars girl not related to anybody? Leia-is-my-sister is weak. Two characters become friends because they struggle together against the same obstacles, and the audience shares all of that experience. Leia-is-my-sister is EXPOSITION.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 30, 2015 05:13 PM (VdICR)

38 Yes to the second. Bull excrement to the first.

Posted by: Mr. bitterness at December 30, 2015 07:03 PM (5YJ6X)

39 I couldn't finish Temple of Doom because I kept hoping that stupid-leading-lady-who-couldn't-act would die a hideous death. But, alas, I was disappointed so I had to walk away before I broke something.

Posted by: Abby Normal at December 31, 2015 02:56 AM (O4xMo)

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