September 30, 2012

Soooo...Games? Sure. Gaming thread!
— Gang of Gaming Morons!

Afternoon My friends, Zakn leading the way. I'm gonna be pretty shameless in my section recruiting from the Horde. My leadership has been extremely impressed by the Morons and 'Ettes that have come on board, and they have asked me to re-double my efforts. I promise this will be the last time I'm going to shamelessly recruit.

If you are a bored PC (or Mac) gamer and are looking for something deep, this is your shot to jump in with both feet. We'll help you out with ships, fits, and mentors.

Anyways Videos and walls of text, below the fold Test has a new Vid. I always like Test Vids

As for whats up in the North? Yea...It's a grind. But purposely so.


I asked a recent Ette joiner to write up something for me, and here it is:

I'm a lurker no more. About seven weeks ago I made a decision to change games -- I had played World of Warcraft in a large raiding guild for close to seven years, but after doing pretty much the same thing every other night I was ready for something different. It was Zakn that nudged me into Empire Space. You see, when I quit WoW, I was really looking for something really different -- something that would challenge the way I think and the way I play a game. For those of us who game, you know what I'm talking about. Those who play MMO's especially understand the concept of min/max-ing and trying to do the most with your character. You read the wikis and forums, use spreadsheets and just plain geek out about the whole thing to really perform the best that you can. I had heard about EvE's steep learning curve and after reading Zakn's post here on the HQ, I decided to take the leap and do a trial.

Sure enough, getting your feet wet in space was a bit challenging, but after grinding through some websites and following the tutorials, I felt like I had a pretty good grasp of EvE and was happily mining away -- maxing my ISK production as best as I thought could. The one thing I was really enjoying about EvE was how relaxing it was. No longer was I having to log in at a set time and raid with 10 to 25 other people, I could just lurk... hop into my mining ship, watch TV, check my blogs, and just chill -- a nice way to end the day. It was exactly what I thought I needed... I could be a nice little anonymous miner in a big freaking galaxy... that was until Zakn caught me lurking in the AoSHQ chat.

I think I asked a harmless question and he dragged me aside and we started chatting about nullsec... a completely different part of the game that I thought I had no interest in playing in. I thought I had left behind the world of competitive gaming, but the more Zakn talked about the thrills of nullsec PvP, of huge alliances, of massive warfare and the possibilities of billions of ISK... I began to rethink about what I was doing. Sure my time in hisec was calm, but it did lack the camaraderie that I enjoyed when playing MMOs. For those of you who don't game, it's like having a hobby group, a bowling league, or a hunting group that you get to hook up with almost every night instead of those odd occasions when everyone's schedule can mesh. It's a place where you can allow the days stresses to melt away and do something fun with people who have the same goals as you. What Zakn was describing to me was the exact thing I really had been missing, and while I was never a PvP gamer (apart from FPSs), I decided I'd give it a go.

So I joined Zakn's corp and this last Friday I went on my first roam. In simple terms, it was a kin to cruising our turf looking for trouble to get into and remind our neighbors that our turf is defined by where we are not where they think the boundaries are. Now I can't even pretend I knew what I was doing. I fell behind, in combat I failed to even tag the bogies much less shoot at them, but I managed to stay alive and see what the main attraction in this game really is. It was a blast and I found where the steep learning curve really is. But mostly it was fun because I was a part of something again. No one got angry because I was a noob, I just had to keep up the best I could. And between Zakn coaching me and the on-the-roam-training, I am ready to do it again and again. I have come to appreciate something new and thrilling. I still look forward to making some big ISK and having some quiet nights, but mostly I look forward to the new aspect of Eve that I've been introduced to.

SO whether your a noob, a returning player, or someone who likes to just lurk in the background like me...you should poke your head into the AoSHQ chat and say something... any dumb ol' question will do. I think you'll quickly find a home with like minded people and you'll likely find your self doing something new for a change that will challenge you on all sorts of levels. After all the purpose of gaming is more than just a diversion, but an opportunity to problem solve in a fun environment.

And yeah, I lurk on AoS too.

Gumbyblue



Thanks GB. There's great Mining to be had in Null when we aren't at War, so she'll see that eventually. One of the Execs wanted to post something as well, so here that is


Hi Morons!

Zakn told me it's ok to call you that so please don't shoot the messenger. I'm the director of recruiting for Paxton Industries, a corp living in the most fun and dangerous region of EVE space deep in nullsec. Over the past week or so we've recruited several morons and I've been impressed with how well they've adapted and the enemies they've blown up. If you're looking to join an active and organized corp or looking to get into EVE and PvP in general, don't hesitate to join "Paxton" chat in-game and talk with a recruiter today.

Here's our Brochure

Healios Isikari & Cmdr Klutz

Just bitter I didn't get a shout out, but w/e...

Now, The dude



Hi,

Not much happening this past week in gaming so this will be quick and short.

Jack Tretton let something slip, CCP aims to release Dust 514 sometime this month. Don't get me wrong, the game is okay but it's too early as it needs quite a bit of polish. But maybe it's not a bad time to launch it as Sony has absolutely nothing to release this season. Seriously, look at the releases coming out this Holidays and the list is empty outside of CoD and Assassins Creed with everything aiming to come out around March as everyone launches their final major games for this generation of software.

Speaking of CCP, I rejoined my fellow CIA frontmen in the wonderful world of EVE. Maybe I can stick with this game for more than a month or two.( Background )

GOG's major release this week was Carmageddon and if you're honest with your self, that game has aged horribly but then again, that's par for the course when it comes to old 3D games.

After a bit of countdown confusion, Pentavision started taking pre-orders for DJMAX Technika Tune. Outside of the first LE, I do believe they had the quickest sellout at 30 hours which is quite something as it's a niche series and no one outside of the US pre-ordered it as the shipping was ridiculous (about $14 in the states, $90 for Canada and $100+ anywhere else). Throw in the bigger than normal print run of 750 of them and Pentavision has a nice hit on their hands before the game comes out. Glad I got my order in, the lineup on the OST is worth the premium for me. And speaking of Pentavision, they released a DJMAX branded version of TapSonic for the iOS Thursday morning which thankfully isn't as big of a rip off as TS was with song packs at a modest $1.99 for 5 songs.

On the SC2 front, with it being a holiday week, not much happened out of the ordinary in Code S. Leenock, HerO, MVP and MarineKing has secured their places in the round of 8. The big things to happen was all Code A as the OGN players didn't do that great to be honest. Only RorO made you take notice, even with Flash playing this past week as well. I do have to say that it's interesting in seeing people not afraid of Flash. Now, he's still in the transition phase but the way that people are kinda looking down on him is like I said, interesting considering his dominance in SC1. Wish NaNiwa would have won his matchup considering he probably is the second best foreigner (still take Stephano over him) in the world but it is what it is.

TellTale annouced that the fourth episode of The Walking Dead will be out in October......yeah, they really should never announce any release date considering how hard of a problem they've always had when it comes to dates. But they're trying to get a disc version out before Christmas so at least they are somewhat motivated to finish this season.

Eurogamer's GetGames site has finally started taking pre-orders for Hotline Miami. Really looking forward to that game (considering Retro City Rampage is MIA).

Obsidian's Project Eternity has crossed the 2.1 million mark with another 16 days to go.

And in other news....yep, Vita still dead though with a new wrinkle, Sony still has no idea on what the system is good at.

Jesus Bynum saves us once again from EA releasing a crappy product as they canceled their upcoming NBA Live 13. Two years without a basketball game and I still have a hard time how the shareholders don't have John Riccitiello's head on a stake. Hell, just release this year's game on the Wii U, Nintendo fanboys won't know the difference.

Well, Peter Molyneux has finally submitted his social experiment, Curiosity:What's Inside the Cube to Apple. I seriously hope the secret is a picture of his twig and berries. With any luck that should be out this week.



Thanks For putting up with the Wall of Text, if you want to hit me on twitter, you can do that Here. If you want to submit a post for the thread shoot an email to aoshqgaming at gmail dot com. I won't be writing the post next week, as i'll be in Vegas for Eve Vegas! Gents is making a large showing, and we have a Scotch tasting event that I'm looking forward to. If you are a Moron in Vegas, and want to have a beer, twitter or that gaming email is your best bet.

Good luck, and Fuck the SCoaMF.


Posted by: Gang of Gaming Morons! at 10:40 AM | Comments (85)
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1 City of Heroes is ending forever November 30th. Sometime in that time-frame, I'll join you for eve online. Keep pimping it or else I'll forget.

Posted by: Truman North, happy iPhone addict at September 30, 2012 10:43 AM (qpyLu)

2 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at September 30, 2012 10:44 AM (Ts9tU)

3 Actually, I've never enjoyed pvp. I'm more of a pve grinder/altaholic/crafter. And chatterer.

Posted by: Truman North, happy iPhone addict at September 30, 2012 10:45 AM (qpyLu)

4 Also: thanks guys for knowing I was so desperate to win at anything, deflowing a thread would pick me up!

Posted by: Truman North, happy iPhone addict at September 30, 2012 10:46 AM (qpyLu)

5 You could come and lose money on the stock market with me

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 10:47 AM (tw6Ar)

6 Paxton Industries? Like Bill Paxton? Cool.

Posted by: Truman North, happy iPhone addict at September 30, 2012 10:47 AM (qpyLu)

7 1. d4

Posted by: rickl at September 30, 2012 10:56 AM (sdi6R)

8 Resident Evil 6 drops this week. Seems to have a good combination of the style of RE with newer mechanics like being able to move AND shoot at the same time.

Posted by: Brenden at September 30, 2012 10:58 AM (sxMJi)

9 I am really liking guild wars 2.  The fact that it is retarded simple 5 button mashing gameplay completely eliminates any thinking involved, along with its completely un-addictive nature (i can pick put it down and not even think about it for days) yet easy to jump right back into at any time, makes this the perfect game to sit on my computer for those odd days when i just dont feel like working.

sarc - seriously, its kind of pretty but its kind of meh.  Maybe it will get better when I hit max level in about 50 levels....which should be right around when guild wars 3 comes out.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 30, 2012 11:01 AM (ovpNn)

10 Still been putting time into Torchlight 2... hoping to beat that before getting into Borderlands 2. (Seeing as I've only started the third act, though... yeah, I'm not exactly setting land speed records in beating it.)

Posted by: The Rogue Economist at September 30, 2012 11:02 AM (Zpaow)

11 Well, damn.  I didn't know CoH was ending.  Not surprised, but didn't know it was a definite thing.  I'll have to log in one last time and take some screens for memory's sake.

Honestly, I'd like to see some of the current online games in an offline RPG type format.  No worries about the servers closing or any of that. 

Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at September 30, 2012 11:02 AM (NJpM7)

12 Dreaming of a NullSec/SWoTOR joint venture. Galactic space battles + character development FTW.

Posted by: Cluebat from Exodar at September 30, 2012 11:02 AM (IoQxR)

13 Refuse to buy wow mists of pandiareah.

Eats too much time + montly fee.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 30, 2012 11:03 AM (ovpNn)

14 Nice write up from the new 'ette on Eve. This is an interesting piece: How video games are becoming the next great North American spectator sport After struggling for decades, competitive gaming finally takes off in the West. http://tinyurl.com/c7ku2l9 From arstechnica.com

Posted by: Bills v Patriots = great game at September 30, 2012 11:04 AM (LpQbZ)

15 I still miss Hellgate... there's a game I could have played offline for a while longer than the online piece lasted.

Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at September 30, 2012 11:04 AM (NJpM7)

16 ooh how is Torchlight II Rogue? I like the look of it. Fun?

Posted by: BlackBlackOrchidMissesDagny at September 30, 2012 11:06 AM (J6kXj)

17

So the Xbox finally got repaired, and I finally got my ME3 finished.

I had to finish with the "extended cut" because due to a lack of internet when I started, I had already downloaded it before I moved and then it wouldn't let me delete it w/o starting over.  But I looked up the differences, and it seems like there's a pretty clear line where the original ended and EC picked up.

I can see why y'alls pissed.  It was pretty crappy.  A huge Deus Ex ending, which is ironic, because the endings reminded me of how Deus Ex: Invisible War ended. (Yes I played that game through.

I don't think it was worthy of the angry protests and craziness it got. But it was certainly facepalm-y and just felt anti-climatic.  But yeah.

I felt like Halo ended it's epic trilogy fairly well, and while they chose to leave open the opportunity for a new trilogy (in order to boost Next gen Xbox sales I'm sure) I feel like Bioware could have learned a lot from that.  I worry about the next dragon age ending.

Posted by: tsrblke at September 30, 2012 11:08 AM (GaqMa)

18 Speaking of Game Spectating.

$10,000 Prize for pool Eve Tournament announced http://tinyurl.com/9frarwd

Posted by: Zakn at September 30, 2012 11:08 AM (zyaZ1)

19 Only game I am waiting for is Watch Dogs.  If it lives up to the hype it will be excellent...but thats a big if.

Still waiting for that NonMuslim vs Muslims  MMO - World of Jihadcraft.

Can't wait to play that.

Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 30, 2012 11:08 AM (ovpNn)

20 My hubby is playing Borderland 2 and seems to be having a lot of fun. He's trying to get me to join him. I'm usually an MMORPG and PvP'er, so not sure I'll jump in. At least it is not guild-attached. We have a decade guild of friends (since the release of DAoC back in 2001?). Our guild is playing a number of other games, some strictly PvP, some MMORPG's atm. But, we have been taking a break...

Posted by: Bills v Patriots = great game at September 30, 2012 11:15 AM (LpQbZ)

21 Bills just didn't feel like winning today I guess. I'd like to say I've never seen such an epic collapse, but I do watch the patriots regularly and they tend to help the other team do that. By the way, my favorite Vince Wilfork quote: "My favorite food is FOOD." Dude has the word "fork" right in his name.

Posted by: Truman North, happy iPhone addict at September 30, 2012 11:23 AM (I2LwF)

22 A huge Deus Ex ending, which is ironic, because the endings reminded me of how Deus Ex: Invisible War ended. (Yes I played that game through. Posted by: tsrblke at September 30, 2012 04:08 PM (GaqMa) Actually, if you'd played Deus Ex: Human Revolution, the ME3 ending was *almost exactly* the same, including the barely-present previously "God-machine" foil that shows up and, despite not knowing its intentions or who's controlling it, you're supposed to trust it and do what it said. ME3 was kind of worse, I described that "confrontation" as "Hello, I am your mortal enemy. Though you have just met me, you will trust me and do what I say." The more I think about it, the worse the rest of the game is anyway. The Crucible, seriously? "We found plans for a Prothean device. We have no idea what it's supposed to do, and the last giant Prothean device we had turned out to be a gigantic trap, but we're going to commit a huge amount of resources to building it, and depend on it to save us, anyway. Kthxbai." The whole thing was a giant middle finger, from "indestructo-enemies," on-rails scenes, mandatory multiplayer... I figure Bioware went out of business in my own little world. Too bad, so sad. Like Origin. I actually thought DE:IW was fun for its time, not like the greatest or deepest story, but some fun times and basically competent design. I liked Thief 3 as well, so I guess I'm an Eidos Heretic, the rabid fans hated both games like the games had eaten their prize goldfish. I do fear for Thief 4, because the T1/2 fanboys have been screaming at them about T3.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2012 11:24 AM (bxiXv)

23 I just wish Runic could give me a game with some life. Two games in a row where I just don't give a shit about. Which is conflicting as I do love me my lootwhoring

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 11:28 AM (tw6Ar)

24 I don't know that I get MMOs, really. I beta'd some popular ones and played some F2P games, but it does seem the majority of the fanbase is into the whole min/max spreadsheet, ideal combos, 400 key combinations, fingers flying like a Starcraft champion, mad rush eternal repeat PVP thing, and/or endless repetitive grinding thing. That sounds like a *job* to me. I wanna be paid if I'm doing a *job*. To relax, I want to play a *game.* It does seem like there's nothing between WoW/EvE and "Second Life" pointless wandering social chat things. I loved X3 (single-player only), except that it had the whole massively complex interface / spreadsheet thing going on. I don't play the same game long enough to remember 317 key combinations. I grew up on adventure games, though, so maybe it's like pre-PC folks not getting games in general, my synapses are not wired form MMOs.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2012 11:31 AM (bxiXv)

25 Not much time for gaming this week, but I did manage to get Jeb out to Duna, one of the new planets in Kerbal Space Program 0.17. Since I didn't expect to succeed, I didn't make a lander; just the capsule, a big-ass fuel tank, and one of them shiny new nucular rocket engine thingamabobs. Mrs. Chronda was anxious to get going on Mists of Panderia, so she bought the digital download and said I had to buy the collector's edition. It's sitting in the local post office and won't be delivered until tomorrow. But I'm down to one machine that can run it; they disabled my trusty Mac Mini at the last patch (never updated to Snow Leopard) and my equally trusty HP Mini 210 netbook couldn't run the beta. So it's just the PC that I use for KSP.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 30, 2012 11:31 AM (bFFJy)

26 Merovig, they are supposed to be streamlining the new X game a bit

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 11:34 AM (tw6Ar)

27 Torchlight just doesn't have anything but grinding. I played the first one fairly intensively for a while, but eventually I'd go back in, look at it for a minute, and then exit. I don't think I need the second one. If it had more of an RPG aspect to it, maybe more non-hostile environments, more NPCs, NPCs other than "shop/rote quest..." I played Diablo II a fair amount, but then again I tended to play relatively simple characters (like the Bowazon or Paladin) that had less of the "chart/key combo" thing going on. I'm sure I'm less effective in such games because I don't get into that stuff, again, it's like a job.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2012 11:34 AM (bxiXv)

28 27 Merovig, they are supposed to be streamlining the new X game a bit Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 04:34 PM (tw6Ar) I am kind of warily looking forward to it. I have a friend who will get it so I will see it before I buy it. Funny, I was playing it the night before I went into the hospital for my heart (they still thought it was pneumonia). When I went to the doctor that morning I had some space traders and a few stations set up and launched the "SETA trick" before I left. When I got back like 3-4 days later, it was still running and I had like 40 billion credits.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2012 11:37 AM (bxiXv)

29 The problem with Blizzard and Runic is the gameplay people left Blizzard and the story people stayed and it's a bad split as you're left with two mediocre series instead of one good series.

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 11:40 AM (tw6Ar)

30 28 I'm sure I'm less effective in such games because I don't get into that stuff, again, it's like a job. ------ I hear ya. On WoW, I jusg like to while away lazy evenings skinning and mining. Mrs. Chronda laughs at my stats, because they are insufficient for pretty much any dungeon. But I have gold and she doesn't! My lvl 22 banker on Hellscream (hi, Poliwigette) has 1200 gold just from selling overpriced copper on the auction house.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 30, 2012 11:41 AM (bFFJy)

31 X Rebirth, BTW, looks more colorful than X3, which is nice. I liked that X3 had a real sort of sense of "being in space," with the sense of quiet (even in the music), the slowness of things like huge freighters moving in the distance, the sense of empty space, and the "deep black," but I missed the amazing skyscapes of Freelancer, which while primitive was a great game.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2012 11:43 AM (bxiXv)

32 In ST: Online I have these admiral characters that just do like a third as much damage as other people, because I didn't make a giant 500-cell spreadsheet matching up abilities and the best items in the game and exactly how many seconds between launching abilities... and I didn't spend real money in the C-store to buy duty officers with the best ability buffs. Not that I was PVPing anyway, but like in elite group missions or high-end SP missions I'm not as competitive and some big enemies just take forever to deal with. I look at tutorials and it's like 3 pages of devices and officers and one or two pages on how to use 27 abilities in the proper order. *A* *job.* I wanted *a* *game.* (sigh) Unfortunately "casual gaming" is not what I thought it was either, because that seems to be money-grubbing phone apps or side-scrolling arcade games. Whine, moan, complain.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2012 11:49 AM (bxiXv)

33 I've paid for an Eve account and haven't even launched the client for 3 months. I really need to log in and see if my guild has kicked me to the curb, and left me stranded in our WH with nary as much as the ship on my back

Posted by: Lone Marauder, pre-denounced for your convenience at September 30, 2012 11:52 AM (eHBHk)

34 You could always go the f2p fps game route. There are some good ones out or are coming out

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 11:52 AM (tw6Ar)

35 One thing I hope they improve in X Rebirth is the docking computer. The one in X3 ran me into stations *constantly*. It was like a mentally-defective docking computer. I called it Carl.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2012 11:52 AM (bxiXv)

36 Heh

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 11:53 AM (tw6Ar)

37 Just hope the Khaaks return. Fun killing them

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 11:55 AM (tw6Ar)

38 Imagine being a 14-year-old whose mother asks you what you're doing in your game and you say "Khaak fighting."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2012 11:59 AM (bxiXv)

39 Homeworld 1 got "space" right.

Posted by: Truman North, happy iPhone addict at September 30, 2012 12:00 PM (I2LwF)

40 Been having a good time grinding my way through Titan Quest. My ranger build has become sort of a glass cannon but that's fixable. Recently noticed that lots and lots of PS2 JRPGs and WRPGs that I wanted and were too expensive are now a lot cheaper and, therefore, have been running amuck on EBay this week. Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2! Woot! and many more. Reminds me of when DVDs finished off VHS and all the VHS movies were available for a buck each. PS2 games aren't that cheap yet but there are some real bargains now.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at September 30, 2012 12:01 PM (il+Xn)

41 man... i am soooo sick of reading about EVE

Posted by: tomc at September 30, 2012 12:01 PM (avEuh)

42 Have to give egosoft brownie points for naming the big baddie that

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 12:02 PM (tw6Ar)

43 Posted by: tomc at September 30, 2012 05:01 PM (avEuh) Don't look at me, I just do a general write up.

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 12:04 PM (tw6Ar)

44 Still like how my short section is still the biggest piece of the wall of text

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 12:05 PM (tw6Ar)

45 How many MMOs have patching out of control, as well? I know Cryptic games are like that, I've had 2Gb+ in patches in a few days. Frequent downtime as well. For the first two weeks after I downloaded ST:O I was kicked off for server downtime at least 7 times. It was like I could play for two hours and then BAM you have to be off for 1-3 hours.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2012 12:13 PM (bxiXv)

46 I keep seeing and hearing about EVE...Mittani's column at TenTonHammer has been must-read for me and I don't even play. I'd probably drift over there if it weren't for my guild in EQ2 (it's bad form for officers to play hooky for extended periods, don'cha know). {In the event any 'rons wander onto Permafrost, that's where I'm kicking around. Mention ewoks and Valu-Rite in Auction and it'll get my attention it I'm on...} Haven't logged onto CoH in a while, but still hoping someone manages something to save it. That game deserves far better than the raw deal it's being handed.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, New Caprica Sanitation Department at September 30, 2012 12:14 PM (x8wJs)

47 Eh, it's mainly due to the fact that STO just released a new expansion

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 12:19 PM (tw6Ar)

48 Well, in case anybody wants to play CoH with me, I'm @dr. Democracy and I play on Freedom. But I'll roll a noob wherever.

Posted by: Truman North, happy iPhone addict at September 30, 2012 12:23 PM (I2LwF)

49 I wasn''t saying just now, I mean I've had that happen more than once in ST:O. I got kicked off for a Steam update last week that took like two hours.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2012 12:24 PM (bxiXv)

50 42 man... i am soooo sick of reading about EVE

Posted by: tomc at September 30, 2012 05:01 PM (avEuh)


I am confused are you talking about "the gameplay" or "the talking about the game play"....cause both are reading and basically the same except one is in game and one isn't.....well actually you can browse the internet while playing ever if i recall from directly in the game.

I think if you truly want to appreciate eve, you need to take a room in your house and convert it into your ship cockpit with all kinds of blinkies and wires and extra monitors with who knows what the fuck that means read outs.

Mask the windows so there is no light except the light coming from your monitor and the digital doodads you put all over to give you that space feeling, turn the AC down to like 57 degrees (its cold in space).

Also you want to run a virtual surround style system with three massive monitors so you have front and peripheral views up at all times like looking out of a cockpit into space.

Then put on some trippy electronica music by some guy from an eastern european country you have never heard of that consists of sounds made with common household appliances and a vocoder.

Next you want to maybe get some pork lo mein cause it looks a lot like the crap they used to show the klingons easting.

Now you are ready to enjoy an evening of EVE.

So you go into your room cockpit, turn on the game, cue up your skills select a destination far away to travel and jump to (traveling and jumpgating is the prettiest and most entertaining part of the game still) open the ingame browser and start eating your fauxklingon noodles while reading AceofSpadesHQ.

By the time you reach your destination, your meal will be done, your browsing will be complete, and it will be time for bed.



Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 30, 2012 12:25 PM (ovpNn)

51 I think I fail at MMOs, even though I like them at the start, because I don't get into the stats and strategy.  I love the customization and the worlds to explore, but the rest of it... eh.  I'm not a social player- tried it, but it just felt weird.  Not a fast leveler, so I'm always behind the curve.  For example, I really want to get to the top level in SWTOR just so I can open up the Legacy smuggler class for Zabraks on my account.  However, I'm pretty sure I'll never make it due to low enthusiasm for continued playtime.

So, usually I just fall back on the single-player RPGs like Dragon's Dogma (current gaming fix).  I'd be plenty happy if someone would develop a similar game for superheroes or a really good, bright futuristic scifi with wirework....

Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at September 30, 2012 12:32 PM (NJpM7)

52 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2012 05:24 PM (bxiXv) Don't know what to say, outside of the constant patches when a new game comes out, I don't notice it that much outside of the weekly DOTA2 update where it grinds the shit out of my hdd ( I'm talking louder than listening to music type loud). Though the new steam update process really is borked and a half

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 12:35 PM (tw6Ar)

53 Actually, I've never enjoyed pvp. I'm more of a pve grinder/altaholic/crafter.

And chatterer.

Posted by: Truman North, happy iPhone addict at September 30, 2012 03:45 PM (qpyLu)


I think that's why I like WoW better than DDO even though it's more expensive in almost every way.  I also like the increased exploration potential of WoW. Someone said a few months ago that no one cared about exploration, and for all I know they're generally right, But I *like* exploring computer worlds (it's much more comfortable than exploring the real thing).

Posted by: Polliwogette: Teahada hobbit at September 30, 2012 12:38 PM (ucTQD)

54 51 I think if you truly want to appreciate eve, you need to take a room in your house and convert it into your ship cockpit with all kinds of blinkies and wires and extra monitors with who knows what the fuck that means read outs I need to do that for KSP. And legally change my name to Anachronda Kerman.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 30, 2012 12:39 PM (dramD)

55 Would kill for a game with wirework. Outside of a crappy Korean MMORPG and The Matrix, only good one we've gotten had been Jade Empire which was good but too short and a bad ending

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 12:39 PM (tw6Ar)

56 49 Well, in case anybody wants to play CoH with me, I'm @dr. Democracy and I play on Freedom.

But I'll roll a noob wherever.

Posted by: Truman North, happy iPhone addict at September 30, 2012 05:23 PM (I2LwF)

Hey, pretty sure my main's on that server.  It's been so long, I don't even remember my @ account name.  I'll look you up whenever I get the updates loaded.  One last hurrah in the old stomping grounds.

Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at September 30, 2012 12:39 PM (NJpM7)

57 Posted by: Polliwogette: Teahada hobbit at September 30, 2012 05:38 PM (ucTQD) If you like that, you would probably like GW2 then since the whole basis of the game is exploring

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 12:40 PM (tw6Ar)

58 The best game that you can pick up and put down anytime for some fun is still Team Fortress 2.


Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 30, 2012 12:43 PM (ovpNn)

59 Asheron's call is primitive even by 2000 standards, but there is no better game that I've played for exploration. You can spend hours running across the open world seeing random spawns and wondrous sights. Well, you have to use your imagination because the graphics are very very primitive, but they're there regardless.

Posted by: Truman North, happy iPhone addict at September 30, 2012 12:44 PM (qpyLu)

60 Best pickup and play games for me lately ha been: League of legends, Mechwarrior online and board games on ios

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 12:46 PM (tw6Ar)

61  Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2012 04:31 PM (bxiXv)

I don't min/max either, in fact don't understand the concept at all, although John liked that sort of play (and making a fortune at whatever auction house a game had). I  usually  just jump in and start flailing about until I get a  general idea of how things work.

Posted by: Polliwogette: Teahada hobbit at September 30, 2012 12:47 PM (ucTQD)

62 Posted by: Anachronda at September 30, 2012 04:31 PM (bFFJy)

I am currently ( as in it's in another window right this minute) playing on my In-laws 6 (?) year old mac mini.  The graphics are certainly a whole new visual experience since this computer was never intended for something like WoW.  All the people and "stuff" render fine, but the ground looks like wildly colored stained glass with the sun shining through.

Posted by: Polliwogette: Teahada hobbit at September 30, 2012 12:50 PM (ucTQD)

63 Posted by: Lone Marauder, pre-denounced for your convenience at September 30, 2012 04:52 PM (eHBHk)

That's my playing style in general, which is bad enough when you put money into something but even worse in a world that goes on around you. I figure that, given how often I want *this* world to stop so I can take a break  from it, it didn't make any  sense at all to voluntarily add another.

Posted by: Polliwogette: Teahada hobbit at September 30, 2012 12:55 PM (ucTQD)

64 I would pay for a MMO that was primarily about exploration and RP, with combat secondary and more entertaining and less grindy or spreadsheety. I want World of Monkey Island. More humor, more exploring, less grinding and min/maxing. I "get" min/maxing, I just think the games cater too much to that by deliberately slightly unbalancing things, so that the min/maxers have something to do with all that free time. As far as FPS MMOs, I think people mean "team-based run-and-shooters," which I only ever really did in the same room with the people I was playing with. Battlefield lasted about a week, TF2 even less. That is some people's cup of tea, I don't like tea. Especially green tea. The ME3 multiplayer I played like two levels, it was like every other simplified run-and-shoot game, only with worse controls. I'm trying to think of the last FPS I had real fun with. FEAR? Didn't even play MP on that.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2012 12:59 PM (bxiXv)

65 I usually just jump in and start flailing about until I get a general idea of how things work. Posted by: Polliwogette: Teahada hobbit at September 30, 2012 05:47 PM (ucTQD) I want to be able to do that but I keep finding out later that I found an innovative alternative to the normal way that is magically less effective (like my ST:O ships kitted out with top-end very rare gear that still do 1/3 the damage others are doing). There are millions of combinations of gear and abilities to affect that, I think everyone else just depends on forum posts by people who spreadsheet everything to death. It's too much accounting and not enough exploring. It *wants* to be fun, and unlike some other games there's tons of story material. You kind of level up too fast and the progression is tilted toward grinding certain missions - over and over. And the spreadsheets. I think the grinder/spreadsheeter is the most fanatical gamer. Casual gamers may buy games, but they don't haunt forums and scream when things aren't right. So the people who do "design" the games.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2012 01:04 PM (bxiXv)

66 Always Planetside 2 and Mechwarrior Online is borrowing Steel Battalion's multiplayer mode ( fight over lands for control and influence)

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 01:07 PM (tw6Ar)

67 I would pay for an mmo where one side was conservative and the other was liberal.

With factions mirorring charicatures of real Life factions.

Where you could import your face into the character creation process so that your toon looked like you IRL.

Where you could have bloody pvp battles with vivid death manuever matchups against your political foes.

I think there is a market for this.  I really do.  And it coudl go a long way to educating low information voters about the real world.

Once they get caught in the afghanistan zone while farming minerals by a taliban jihad faction that anally rapes their toon then beheads them, they might wake up a little.

This game would need weekly content to stay current though....and thats an impossibly tight timeline for developers unless they use rote plug and play scenario systems.

On the other hand, i am looking forward to what the eve developers are doing with that vampire MMO they have been workign on for 16  hundred years.



Posted by: jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka wright at September 30, 2012 01:10 PM (ovpNn)

68 Then of course Dust 514 is doing something cool if the EVE players take to it and set up corps in the game

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 01:13 PM (tw6Ar)

69 Posted by: soulpile is... expendable at September 30, 2012 05:32 PM (NJpM7)

I'm not a social player either, which means most  WoW  dungeons are out of the question for me until I'm wildly over level, so I usually just tell people I'm a loner and most seem content to leave it at that.  If I want company I make my son play, which he likes anyway so that works out pretty well.

I was surprised at how much I've enjoyed the couple of role-playing events I've done, although I'm sure that's a reflection of the work put into the event by whoever organizes them.

Posted by: Polliwogette: Teahada hobbit at September 30, 2012 01:23 PM (ucTQD)

70 I went ahead and bought KSP. Went from 1.3 to 1.7 and now my liquid fuel engines doesn't ignite just my solid rockets.

Posted by: Hanoverfist at September 30, 2012 01:25 PM (0ETDE)

71 Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2012 05:40 PM (tw6Ar)

It sounds like I probably would like that, but we start school as soon as we get home and I only have time for one game (which is WoW since I've just sunk a bunch of money into it).

Posted by: Polliwogette: Teahada hobbit at September 30, 2012 01:26 PM (ucTQD)

72 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2012 06:04 PM (bxiXv)

Lol, I know exactly what you mean. I used to find and explore games and get John interested in them, and then he'd tell me the way to play it correctly (explain how to solve whatever my current problem was) because he always read the wikis and forums.

Posted by: Polliwogette: Teahada hobbit at September 30, 2012 01:29 PM (ucTQD)

73 63 I am currently ( as in it's in another window right this minute) playing on my In-laws 6 (?) year old mac mini. -------- No, you don't understand. It refuses to run on my mini; since I never upgraded to Snow Leopard, it deems my machine unworthy.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 30, 2012 01:33 PM (c16IJ)

74 71 I went ahead and bought KSP. Went from 1.3 to 1.7 and now my liquid fuel engines doesn't ignite just my solid rockets. ------- I suspect you have the solids in a stage below the liquids. Select the liquids in the staging diagram and drag them down to the same stage as the solids. I'm offline for a few hours; the folks in the KSP forums should be able to help.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 30, 2012 01:36 PM (c16IJ)

75 Oh. No. Italicans!

Posted by: [/i]Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2012 01:40 PM (bxiXv)

76 @4 "Actually, I've never enjoyed pvp. I'm more of a pve grinder/altaholic/crafter.

And chatterer.

Posted by: Truman North, happy iPhone addict at September 30, 2012 03:45 PM (qpyLu"

WOW PVP Update:

WoW is in a pretty sad state right now as the happiest players currently are the ones who get their enjoyment from making other people miserable. World PVP is an out-of-balance gankfest on most PVP servers, and the only other places to get close to nominal balance is in the team-based random Battlegrounds, which, for those of you who don't do this stuff, is best described as having to cooperate with people who make the worst trolls the AoSHQ comments section has ever seen seem like happy, well-adjusted individuals by comparison.

Fueled in large degree buy the implementation of the horribly buggy and grief-inviting Cross-Realm Zoning (CRZ), players in the minority factions are leaving their servers in greater numbers than before, which only serves to make the servers even more out of balance, which in turn obliges Blizzard to keep CRZ in the game in spite of well over 10,000 posts in the forums complaining about its multiple game-crippling bugs.

Don't roll on a PVP server right now, is what I'm saying. You'll either be in the majority, which is terribly boring if you like a fair fight, or in the minority, which is terribly frustrating for any player not already level capped. Good times!

On the expansion front, Blizzard was not prepared for the major bottlenecking in Mists of Pandaria caused by players leveling quickly and wanting to run raids. Some zones are experiencing queue times measured in several hours. Result: lots of anger.

Blizz used to be good at this stuff, right? I came in during Cata, so I don't have any of that "since Vanilla" baggage, but what I'm seeing just shouts to me that Blizz really does not have a clue about how ugly and adolescent and hopelessly obsessed and addicted its player base actually is. Or maybe they do know, which is why they feel they can get away with what amounts to a post-beta-test-period super-secret-new-beta-test, which players know as "finally getting to play the official Mists of Pandaria release."

In other news, Pandas are insufferably cute, but no more cartoonish and silly than goblins, gnomes, and worgen. Hell - 80% of the game's content is cartoonish and silly. Remove the puns and in-jokes and you'd remove most of the quests and NPCs in the game.

Whatever. I suspect I'm not really an MMO kind of guy. Skyrim is looking really, really tempting right now. Full disclosure: I have unsubbed. Chances of returning are slim.

I'm off to play DOOM2. Feeling very retro at the moment.

Posted by: Cameron at September 30, 2012 01:42 PM (hwUXQ)

77 WoW is in a pretty sad state right now as the happiest players currently are the ones who get their enjoyment from making other people miserable. Posted by: Cameron at September 30, 2012 06:42 PM (hwUXQ) That's my experience of all online PVP since Diablo 1. I went over to the PVP zone in ST:O and got ganged up on by a few higher-level Klingon players. On DCUO I am occasionally PVP-request-spammed by characters 20+ higher in level when I'm interacting with a vendor or something, apparently hoping I'll accidentally click on something. It's all a new outlet for elementary-school bullies AFAIC.

Posted by: [/i]Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2012 01:50 PM (bxiXv)

78 Posted by: Anachronda at September 30, 2012 06:33 PM (c16IJ)

Ah. I wouldn't know about Snow Leopard since it's my B-i-l who does all the maintenance on their computer.

Posted by: Polliwogette: Teahada hobbit at September 30, 2012 02:03 PM (ucTQD)

79 Posted by: Cameron at September 30, 2012 06:42 PM (hwUXQ)

I guess I've just been very fortunate not to have come across any particular griefers. I have to admit to liking the pet-battle thing. Even that I don't *have* to do PvP which works well for me.

Posted by: Polliwogette: Teahada hobbit at September 30, 2012 02:05 PM (ucTQD)

80 In a game as wide-ranging and complicated as WOW my reasons for unsubbing are likewise wide-ranging and complicated. I suppose I'm mostly feeling the contempt that proverbially follows familiarity; i.e., I got bored with the grind.

All games are a grind, but WoW is just super-duper-grindy if you want to min/max your toon.

Anyhoo, I must be serious about quitting the game. I just bought a set of weights on ebay as lately I can actually imagine myself finding the time to use them

Posted by: Cameron at September 30, 2012 02:31 PM (hwUXQ)

81 Polli, what level is your character on Hellscream? 

Got 2 weeks to play a little WoW later this month, thought I'd roll a panda on whichever the AoS server is.  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 30, 2012 02:45 PM (BM5bI)

82 Another trailer for Rome:Total War 2 out, the first one is especially awesome. One my most memorable games was the Amazon mod. I had 2 small armies of horse archers at the foot of the Caucasus Mountains, and my slovenly spies detected endless armies of Seleucids invading with elite troops, elephants, chariots, the whole works. Music of doom playing. War of attrition against overwhelming odds, the endless Russian steppes made reinforcement very difficult. Then Rome and Greece decided to invade from the west. Long story short, finally knocked them all off after about 200 years of war.

Rome is a great game for getting young people interested in history.
Trailer 1 for the upcoming game. Awesome!
http://tinyurl.com/89mus9k

Posted by: JHW at September 30, 2012 03:42 PM (B38OD)

83

No mention of XCom?  XCom (no hyphon) Enemy Unknown is due out on Tuesday the 9th for PC, XBox, and PS3.  This is the Firaxis remake of the turn-based classic (which is quite frequently rated as one of the best games of all time), and not the "we belatedly realized we had the rights, so we swiped the name for our fps" game that's been showing trailers for the last couple of years.  So yes, the Sectoids are back.  And the Ethereals.  And the Chrysalids.  Because, after all, it just wouldn't be an XCom remake without that one alien that makes you go fetal in the corner.

There's a demo for the PC on Steam.  Check it out.  Vets of the original should keep in mind that it's just the first couple of tutorial missions (which can be turned off in the full game), and that most of the strategic game play will work as it did in the original (despite what the demo may suggest).  There are also a large number of online videos of Firaxis and industry press people playing the game.  So check it out if you think you might be interested.

Posted by: junior at September 30, 2012 03:50 PM (A4dKj)

84 Did I miss the post on the Black Mesa (Half-Life redo) mod? No multi-player hassles, just good clean crowbar.

Posted by: and irresolute at September 30, 2012 04:06 PM (JvklE)

85 Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 30, 2012 07:45 PM (BM5bI)

So sorry monster, I just got back home and saw your question. I just started a Panda on Hellscream Her name is Themma and she's level 5. All my other toons on that server are over level 20. but if you want to go Horde, whenever that comes up, I still need a couple signatures to get ValURite Pudding up and running.

Posted by: Polliwogette: Teahada hobbit at September 30, 2012 06:36 PM (ucTQD)

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