July 31, 2007

So You Think You Can Propagandize?
— Ace

So You Think You Can Dance? subjects viewers to synchronized defeatism. It has a good beat I can surrender to it.

“So You Think You Can Dance” took its audience for granted, tried to force feed it pirouette propaganda, and it paid a price.

There was a time when such shows were tailor-made for men fighting overseas, not made for bringing them down. Glenn Miller did his radio show three times a week between 1938 and 1942 before joining the Army himself and forming the Glenn Miller Army Air Force Band.

Miller insisted the band be as close to the troops in theater as possible and had them shipped to England in 1943. While there, the band did over 800 performances in less than a year.

A General reportedly once told Miller, "Next to a letter from home, Capt. Miller, your organization is the greatest morale builder in the ETO.” His art made a statement.

In December of ’44, Miller flew ahead of his band from England to France to entertain troops who had liberated Paris. His plane disappeared over the English Channel. Neither the wreckage nor any signs of Miller were ever found. His death remains a mystery, Miller a casualty of the war he went so far to support.

My, these days are different, aren’t they?

The producers and choreographers defend their decision by saying no one could be pro-war, so what's the harm? Well, no one is pro-war as an optimum choice, but sometimes the pro-war position is the best of a bad lot.

Furthermore, during WWII, few actually liked the war either. What precisely was there to like? A world burning with darkness on the march? Soldiers being killed by the thousands? The deprivations and rationing on the home front?

No one was exactly dancing with joy at the fact that history had compelled them to fight a great evil at tremendous personal cost.

And yet they did it anyway. Without mounting absurd pageants about fantasy worlds in which Hitler could be negotiated with by simply appealing to his sense of compassion and his sense of equality.

Okay, I think I'm stopping the Rich "Psycho" Giamboni schtick. It's tedious.

In case you didn't notice, Dave in Texas is going to throw some posts up every once in a while. Glad to have him posting.


Posted by: Ace at 08:44 AM | Comments (52)
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1 I think I'm stopping the Rich "Psycho" Giamboni schtick. It's tedious.



That ain't all from you that's tedious, wingnut.


On a personal side-note: I like balls.

Posted by: JimBimbo at July 31, 2007 08:46 AM (s51YO)

2

Okay, I think I'm stopping the Rich "Psycho" Giamboni schtick. It's tedious.


Sorry to hear that.  He/you had some seriously funny commentary there.  Yeah, having Rich comment about California electorial politicing was kinda lame, but the feret balls and feet, plus him making you play with his, ahem, weiner had me in stitches.


So yeah, he might not be ideal for all posts.


But he sure is right for some.


So maybe if you could just let him come and go as he pleases.


Posted by: Rich "Psycho" Giamboni schtick superfan at July 31, 2007 08:51 AM (zGHW/)

3 Damnit, Ace, if you were going to fake retirement to get rid of Jim, you should have committed at least two weeks to it.

Posted by: JDTAY at July 31, 2007 08:51 AM (Mnhre)

4 But... but... I defeated you with my screenshots of doom!  You should be cowering in fear of my master debating skills!  Got any frozen fruit?  Or maybe a nice stiff throbbing cock.  That'd work too.

Posted by: Usagi BimJimbo at July 31, 2007 08:52 AM (Ivufb)

5 I admit to watching SYTYCD regularly and when I saw that last week I nearly threw something through the television.  Not only that, but the piece was *boring* which is not generally something stated in connection with Wade Robson's choreography.  Crack fueled, yes.  Boring, no.  The explanation in lieu of apology the next night was lame, lame, lame, lame. 

The only one who came across well was Mia Michaels when she apologized for wearing the jacket with the upside down Marine insignia.  She was straightforward in explaining that she didn't know what it meant and was sorry that she offended.  It wasn't just "I'm sorry if you were offended", it was "I didn't know and I didn't mean to do that".  It does point out, though, that there was no one around her who thought for one moment that there was anything wrong with it or told her what it was. Frankly, I doubt she's ever seen a real person in a uniform before.  But other than that, it was infuriating to listen to the blathering on about the piece. 

The best part, though, was listening to Nigel attempting to explain how it wasn't controversial at all but hey, art is meant to provoke!  Well, you provoked and you got blasted.  Or, as my BFF says, free speech means you have the right to say what you want and I have the right to point and laugh. 

Posted by: alexthechick at July 31, 2007 08:53 AM (SHHaV)

6

WTFBBQMATE...


I thought you were cool for once...


Posted by: TheEJS at July 31, 2007 08:54 AM (qN+aI)

7 I thought you were really gone...for good! And I already cracked my third beer in celebration!

Posted by: Daniel at July 31, 2007 08:54 AM (nwJit)

8 All this time Ace was in a fake retirement, DimBimbo was gaping at his PC screen, not a neuron firing in his brain, unable to comprehend the situation that the AoS blog was still going strong while the master went missing. And when Ace returned, the DumDumbo woke up from his stupor and made a vapid comment. Now I know the pleasure cats must get when playing with a mentally retarded mouse.

Posted by: Tushar D at July 31, 2007 08:57 AM (IlgNp)

9 Yeah, that's a good idea... I'll post when it's something that matters to ME, not what you fairies might want to read about.



Posted by: "Big Rich" at July 31, 2007 08:57 AM (1UCRY)

10

Ace,


Adding Dave in Texas is cool! Don't add Bart though. That is like giving a can of gasolene and a torch to a baboon, and welcoming him to a lumberyard.


Posted by: Tushar D at July 31, 2007 09:04 AM (IlgNp)

11

Jimbo, I thought I told you to stop repeating those moonbat theories you read off the bathroom wall, and windex the cum off of Candy's stall.


Now hurry, before I make you trade with PLV and clean the urinal.....


with your tounge.


Posted by: Big AL at July 31, 2007 09:04 AM (Tr2b6)

12 1 I think I'm stopping the Rich "Psycho" Giamboni schtick. It's tedious.

That ain't all from you that's tedious, wingnut.


And yet, here you are!

Posted by: carin at July 31, 2007 09:04 AM (tffWi)

13 "It's tedious."

Maybe for you, but it was the funniest shit here in years.  Seriously.

Posted by: someone at July 31, 2007 09:04 AM (eCH82)

14 The producers and choreographers defend their decision by saying no one could be pro-war, so what's the harm

I'm not so much pro-war as I'm pro-anti-Terrorism.

Posted by: carin at July 31, 2007 09:07 AM (tffWi)

15

Oh, man, JimBimbo, stun me with your patented laugh line, "Do your own research!"


I mean, it's no "Dy-Na-Mite!" or "What'chu talkin' 'bout, Willis," or "Cheesboyguh cheesboyguh cheesboyguh no Coke, Pepsi," but it does get the predictable studio audience laff.


 


Posted by: ushie at July 31, 2007 09:09 AM (ljcNo)

16 I'm not so much pro-war as I'm pro-anti-Terrorism.

I'm more like pro-anti-anti-pro-anti-terrorism.

Posted by: JDTAY at July 31, 2007 09:09 AM (Mnhre)

17

Ace


Mother Sheehan stayed retired longer than you did. You planning on running against Pelosi, too? Now that would be a campaign worth donating to, yes, indeed.


Posted by: mikeyslaw at July 31, 2007 09:15 AM (yrptY)

18 I still want some posts from that fucking sandwich!

The Jake the Snake guy is OK but Johnny Coldcuts is a masterwork

Posted by: paul in Iowa at July 31, 2007 09:19 AM (qzOby)

19 What precisely was there to like? A world burning with darkness on the
march? Soldiers being killed by the thousands? The deprivations and
rationing on the home front?



And the worst part of WWII? We weren't even killing scary brown
people. It's a wonder anyone wanted to fight that war at all.

Posted by: Drew at July 31, 2007 09:19 AM (hlYel)

20

>>We weren't even killing scary brown people.


Drew, on the contrary, brown people (Indian soldiers and Gurkhas under British leadership) were kicking Nazi and Italian asses in the Middle East and North Africa.


Posted by: Tushar D at July 31, 2007 09:25 AM (IlgNp)

21 From the MKH article: It was performed to John Mayer’s Gen-Y do-nothing ode to loserdom, “Waiting on the World to Change.”


Appropriately enough, the song is also cloying and predictable in its angst and impotence and says nothing other than “world bad.”


Not surprisingly, this cloying, predictable, Gen-Y do-nothing ode to loserdom was given the full Important Statement treatment on NPR a month or two ago.  Aging hippie boomers like it too.  Blech.


Posted by: Pervy Grin at July 31, 2007 09:28 AM (fqvpi)

22 brown people (Indian soldiers and Gurkhas under British leadership)
were kicking Nazi and Italian asses in the Middle East and North Africa.


not to mention kicking Japanese ass in Burma and Eastern India (I'm thinking the Battle of Imphal as an example).

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 31, 2007 09:32 AM (tVbxd)

23 "Waiting for the world to change"...

If that doesn't just encapsulate everything that is wrong with the hippies, nothing does.

Posted by: krakatoa at July 31, 2007 09:36 AM (n+ZaI)

24

true that, IllTemperedCur,  The Burma campaign was vicious. The Japanese were fierce fighters.


I am ambivalent about India's involvement in WWII. Indian revolutionaries were trying to throw off the British rule, and some of them allied with the Axis. But the major Axis power, the Nazi Germany, was the true incarnation of evil. So, meh.


Posted by: Tushar D at July 31, 2007 09:38 AM (IlgNp)

25

Furthermore, during WWII, few actually liked the war either. What precisely was there to like? A world burning with darkness on the march? Soldiers being killed by the thousands? The deprivations and rationing on the home front?


Can't get italics to turn off. Anyway, it's amazing what pussies we've become. If we can't tolerate this war, which fatality-wise, WW11 had about as many in a single month as Iraq has had in 4 years, and we are not sacrificing a single thing, we are truly screwed.


Posted by: bmac at July 31, 2007 09:39 AM (GPVwP)

26 Ah, the joys of post-modern relativism. If everyone would just, like, stop having wars, man, there'd be, like, peace and stuff, man!

"Since pacifists have more freedom of action in countries where traces of democracy survive, pacifism can act more effectively against democracy than for it. Objectively the pacifist is pro-Nazi." —George Orwell

Replace "Nazi" with "Islamist," and it's just as applicable today.

Posted by: Slowking Man at July 31, 2007 09:40 AM (gC5bX)

27 Bleh, forgot the br tags. Oh well, it's still readable. Go bug Misa to improve the commenting system, Ace.

Posted by: Slowking Man at July 31, 2007 09:42 AM (gC5bX)

28 Can't say I blame you much for the ambivalence.

I might be wrong, but I always thought that the whole "Indians have a culture of non-violence" meme was vaguely insulting. I have a lot of respect for warrior cultures, and I got the impression that the Indian subcontinent was home to some serious cultural badasses.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 31, 2007 09:45 AM (tVbxd)

29

We were always a honorably violent nation, but then Gandhi went queerbait on us, and thus we got that insulting "culture of non-violence" tag.


It is true though, that India never invaded another country. I hope that changes in future.


Posted by: Tushar D at July 31, 2007 09:51 AM (IlgNp)

30

Indians have a culture of non-violence?  Heh.  Tell that to the Gurkhas.  Oh wait - I see you mentioned them.  OK, tell it to the Thugs.


Anyway, this whole SYTYCD kerfuffle (God, I love that word) reminds me of a comment I read a while back in some other moronblog that mentioned the fear - absolute, trembling fear - that a lot of TSM  reporters felt whenever good news from Iraq crossed their desk: how could they 'report' on this without 'carrying the Administration's water'?  And that's what I think is an unspoken rationale to this nonsense - that any expression of hope for victory or support for the troops will be seen as support for Chimpy McBusHitlerburton, and their little minds can't handle the cognitive dissonance.


And Ace?  Always nice to see "Psycho," but he seemed a little more mellow this time around.  Maybe a hobo-killin', Subway sandwich-snarfin', Peruvian blow and Brazilian hooker-fueled weekend with Johnny Coldcuts would help him get back his edge.


Posted by: Christopher at July 31, 2007 10:01 AM (zF6Iw)

31 Who are you, and what have you done with Seacrest?

Posted by: steveegg at July 31, 2007 10:09 AM (WSAWm)

32

</sarcasm>.


Where did that tag go?  Must've been in the freezer.


Posted by: steveegg at July 31, 2007 10:11 AM (WSAWm)

33 brown people (Indian soldiers and Gurkhas under British leadership)
were kicking Nazi and Italian asses in the Middle East and North Africa.

And yet they call it the 'good war'. I don't get it. I just don't get it.

Posted by: Drew at July 31, 2007 10:12 AM (hlYel)

34 Okay, I think I'm stopping the Rich "Psycho" Giamboni schtick. It's tedious.

Obviously, JimBinbo drove you to it with his rapier-like wit and devastating responses.  We totally understand, ace.


Posted by: OregonMuse at July 31, 2007 10:15 AM (WqDqW)

35 I am ambivalent about India's involvement in WWII. Indian
revolutionaries were trying to throw off the British rule, and some of
them allied with the Axis.

Tushar,

In all seriousness it seemed to have worked out well. India fought the good fight for civilization and at the end of the day still got its rightful place as a nation shortly after the fight with big evil was over.

Of course others took a, shall we say, different route.

Posted by: Drew at July 31, 2007 10:16 AM (hlYel)

36 And who knew that JimBimbo liked balls?  I did not see that coming.

Posted by: VJay at July 31, 2007 10:21 AM (kico6)

37 And to think it took me less than one day to tie you in knots so
thoroughly that all you can do is change my comments. Betcha like being
tied in knots, too.


Posted by: JimBimbo at July 31, 2007 10:37 AM (s51YO)

38 When I saw that the dancers would be performing to that milque-toast John Mayer song, I deleted it off my DVR. I love SYTYCD, but I will not be subjected to pretentious crap in my dance routines.

I bet they cool their jets this week, or I will never watch them again.

Posted by: Stormy70 at July 31, 2007 10:44 AM (Y+o71)

39

Seventh grade insults  are actually tied knots?


 


I did not know that.


Posted by: Mikey NTH at July 31, 2007 11:15 AM (O9Cc8)

40 That goddam song just irritates the hell out of me.  I bet Jessica Simpson crapped in his bed as a criticism.

Posted by: ushie at July 31, 2007 11:16 AM (ljcNo)

41 Well, according to the blind items, Jessica and John had "dirty"sex in Italy. Probably because he is a friend of Dorothy.

Posted by: Stormy70 at July 31, 2007 11:21 AM (Y+o71)

42

And to think it took me less than one day to tie you in knots so thoroughly that all you can do is change my comments. Betcha like being tied in knots, too.


Never mind all that, JimBimbo.  Please tell us what, specifically, you enjoy most about balls.  I'm genuinely curious.


Remember to be descriptive and neglect none of the senses.  Let your tonguetastes and nosescents paint the picturemuralscene.


Posted by: VJay at July 31, 2007 11:24 AM (kico6)

43 i've had dumps longer than your retirement.

Posted by: dr. akim ullshitbay at July 31, 2007 12:28 PM (4xK1D)

44

Dave in Texas is going to throw some posts up every once in a while


Just great.  Like the world needs one more place where DinT can expound about the benefits of paraffin wax treatments and floating naked in his pool.


Guess it's time to get the BB gun out again.


 


Posted by: mesablue at July 31, 2007 12:45 PM (KCOdQ)

45

It's tedious.


No. Shit.


Posted by: mesablue at July 31, 2007 12:46 PM (KCOdQ)

46 Jimbimbo simply has a comprehension problem.

He sees "Ha! I vanquished this wingnut with my logic and repartee!"

Ace saw "Hey, it's a silly little monkey in a hat! Throw him a walnut and see if he goes nuts trying to open it."

Everyone else saw "Look at that silly little monkey rolling around trying to open a walnut!"

Posted by: Merovign at July 31, 2007 01:18 PM (IaYDo)

47 I do not have a... whatever it is you said that I have.  All I have is the truth.  And frozen fruit in my ass.

Posted by: Usagi BimJimbo at July 31, 2007 01:26 PM (Ivufb)

48 Come on boy/ come on girl
succumb to the beat surrender!
-The Jam, "Beat Surrender"

Yeah, yeah, I know. -10 cool points for remembering The Jam quote.



Posted by: exdem13 at July 31, 2007 06:01 PM (G4AdY)

49 Whew, I was actually worried, considered taking you off my RSS feed. I wanna tell you that I rarely comment, but you are my favorite blogger Ace. I really enjoy your posting, you had me disappointed, I even put "No more I love you" on my iPod in mourning. I'm sure you have lots of supporters, just most of us don't have lots of time to post on blogs, but tank you for your hard work that you have put in here. You do it free of charge and only ask for donations and I appreciate that.

If you left who would take on Glen Greenwald and his pack of invisible boyfriends? Nobody. You are the man.

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50 Every time I hear about this stupid show I think of this.  I know, it's old.

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