July 29, 2017

Saturday Evening Movie Thread 07-29-2017 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]
— Open Blogger

Action!

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A good action scene is why some of us get out of bed in the morning. We love to watch explosions, car chases, fist fights, and general mayhem on screen.

But, have you ever thought about how hard it is to make such a flurry of editing, sound, and movement intelligible to the human eye projected sixty feet high?

You might be surprised by this, but I have.

I’m no expert, but I think that action scenes need to follow two basic rules to reach a foundational level of comprehensible. Great action scenes generally do a whole lot more, but if these two aren’t met, then it gets a lot harder to figure out what’s going on.

“Never be muddy, never be boring”

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That was a piece of advice one of my creative writing professors (he was British, like the man above) in college gave me, and it has stuck with me ever since. I think what he said about how to write fiction can apply to how to compose an action scene.

1) “Never be muddy” means that there should be clarity to what is being conveyed. You should be able to tell where people are (the geography of the scene) and to differentiate between them. If the editing of the scene leads you to believe that the antagonist on one side of the room and then he magically appears on the other to give the protagonist a punch in the face, then the audience gets pulled out of the moment. “He wasn’t there,” they say to themselves as they demand some semblance of rules from the scene.

This also extends to just visual differentiation as well. I’m going to talk more about Kill Bill: Volume 1 in a little bit, but I think how Tarantino dressed our protagonist and her opponents helps make the scene so much clearer than it could have been. She’s dressed all in yellow while the drones she fights are all in black. It’s a contrast that pops off the screen and helps to keep us knowledgeable of where everyone is, along with a few other important factors like editing, staging, and lighting. Center framing (keeping all the action in the center of the frame) helps some more chaotic films like Mad Max: Fury Road remain legible amidst the anarchy.

2) “Never be boring” means that if you are going to have an action scene that lasts more than a few seconds, you can’t have the same thing repeated endlessly. Imagine two little boys with toy swords just parrying little blows back and forth without ever changing. That wouldn’t be terribly exciting, now would it. If you have a fist fight, it can’t just be two guys throwing little jabs, but you have at least mix it up with some other moves to keep things from growing stale.

One of the reasons that I’m a slight defender of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is the action sequences. The opening sequence in the warehouse is almost madcap in how the scene keeps changing the setups and executions to almost every blow. It starts as a Mexican standoff, turns into a car chase, then into a fist fight (including falling through a ceiling and the use of chains), continues with a horizontal rocket launch, and only finally ends with the nuclear explosion. I’ve always found that very fun, even if it’s completely unrealistic and borderline silly.


An Exception

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What would one of these be without me being a horrible hypocrite?

Well, let me show you the scene that I’m going to call an exception, first. It’s from Batman Begins and is the first appearance of The Batman in the film.

Especially when Batman fell down into the middle of the group of bad guys and started giving blows, that was muddy, wasn’t it? You won’t get any argument from me. It’s hard to tell what’s going on.

But that’s okay. “Why?” you ever so politely ask. Well, it has everything to do with something that’s very important to Christopher Nolan, point of view. Every scene he directs is told from a particular point of view, this one is no different. They key is in how the scene is filmed. This action adventure movie suddenly has the trappings of a horror film, and it’s all because the scene is told from the point of view of the bad guys. The bad guys have no idea what’s after them or what’s going on so when Batman drops from the ceiling and beats them all, it’s confusing for them. They can’t see what is kicking their asses, and, by extension, neither can we.

The point of the scene isn’t the action itself, but the experience the bad guys have in the face of this new terrifying crime fighter. Cops have been shown as complicit in their actions, and suddenly there’s a creature in the shadows that’s after them? The law was effectively on their side! What’s this?!


Where things can break down

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I just want to drop in a quick example of a beautifully filmed action scene that leaves me very cold. Most people love Skyfall, and I do too. But the below action scene done in the dark so the two men are silhouetted in front of neon lights, ends up being just basically confusing to me.

Could you tell who was whom throughout? I couldn’t. I love the movie, but this action scene has always taken me out of the movie.

As a quick counterpoint, I want to highlight this “action scene” from Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. In it, we get confused as to which Kirk is the real Kirk.

But, as you can tell, there’s a small narrative reason for it. It’s to create that very confusion. See? Another rule broken, but it’s fine because narrative ultimately comes first.


I’m gonna kill Bill

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Alright, now the real reason I wrote all of this, and the part that no one will end up reading because it’s so far down.

The Showdown at House of Blue Leaves is one of the greatest action sequences ever filmed. It’s also one of the first action sequences Quentin Tarantino ever filmed. Look back at the three movies he made before this, and the closest to an action sequence you’ll find is Steve Buscemi running down the street in Reservoir Dogs and Marcellus Wallace getting hit with the car in Pulp Fiction. Even if you classify those as action scenes, they’re nothing compared to this.

And you know what? It follows the two basic rules I outlined above. In addition to that, what amazed me most about the sequence is the fact that the action sequence itself, on its own, actually follows the basic story structure of exposition, rising action, climax, falling action, and resolution. The action scene itself tells a story.

Exposition begins with The Bride calling out O-ren Ishii and laying out the reasons for her presence. The rising action is the first few people The Bride faces against (culminating in the battle with the schoolgirl dressed Go Go). The climax is the beginning of hell breaking loose as the rest of the gang ( the Crazy 88 ) show up and that fight begins. Declining action happens as she thins out the heard and faces O-ren one on one. Resolution happens as The Bride limps away from the carnage.

Maybe it’s too long. Maybe it’s too gratuitous. Maybe it’s too self-indulgent. But you know what? I love every minute of it.


Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:
The Emoji Movie
Atomic Blonde

Next in my Netflix Queue:
The Milky Way

Movies I Saw This Week:
Fear and Desire (Netflix Rating 2/5 | Quality Rating 1.5/4) Poster blurb: "Stanley Kubrick made a movie so bad that he tried to destroy every copy. Come and watch!" [Amazon Prime]
The VVitch (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) "A terrifying and unsettling look at the seductive power of evil." [Amazon Prime]
Byzantium (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) "An interesting, if a little disjointed, modern vampire movie." [Netflix Instant]
Phoenix (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) "Gets caught up in minutia, but ends quietly and quite powerfully." [Netflix Instant]
Love in the Afternoon (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) "Rohmer’s movies feel more like theater than film, but they do end up conveying a strong message and impact." [Netflix DVD]


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Posted by: Open Blogger at 02:21 PM | Comments (367)
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1 Foist?

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 02:23 PM (eMKNe)

2 Been here four minutes... first?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 02:23 PM (5JgkQ)

3 I saw two movies recently: "Prince of Darkness" and "Deathgasm". Both involving a demon lord trying to enter our world. The former has a cult following, but I must report that it is boring and ugly. Mainly I have a problem with its theology: that if G*d exists, there must be an "anti-God" who would then be evil. It's an ancient idea - the Zoroastrian Ahriman is similar - but I dispute that to create good one must also inadvertently create an equal evil.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 02:23 PM (6FqZa)

4 Guess so. *smirk smirk*

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 02:24 PM (eMKNe)

5 Dammit, that's just funny... You had to be here.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 02:24 PM (5JgkQ)

6 Question for the Horde: Should I bring my GoPro and make a movie of the GNAMM? We can title it "Fear of Hordelings in Las Vegas."

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 02:25 PM (eMKNe)

7 Muddy and boring.. ---------- This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: 2001 at July 29, 2017 02:25 PM (/ZEVC)

8 Laughing like a retard right now.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 02:25 PM (5JgkQ)

9 Yep, Tarantino can shoot a scene. I'm divided on his ability to write and link them. Some of his movies are great, some are interesting failures.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2017 02:26 PM (xJa6I)

10 Deathgasm on the other hand was hilarious and gets a strong recommendation as a moron-friendly movie. The main problem here is that they shoehorned a Christian uncle and a bully for a cousin. I don't think it made sense to have that family be Christian. Especially since as the movie plays out, oops, it turns out that there is actually a demon world and that it is bad to poke at it. Which is pretty much exactly what the Western Church has taught for over a thousand years. Fortunately that bit of screenwriting fail wasn't overplayed.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 02:27 PM (6FqZa)

11 Watched Dunkirk this afternoon. It does a lot of the things mentioned in the article. Despite playing all kinds of games with time, and jumping among three or four viewpoints, the viewer always understands what's going on.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 29, 2017 02:28 PM (Fr1z5)

12 Sorry, folks to disrupt your thread, but I am in heavy duty need of prayers for my son. Something is terribly wrong with him mentally / emotionally-and we don't have medical insurance. He just acted out in a way I haven't seen before. We have to figure out what we can do. I'm going to get off the thread now, so not to disrupt it anymore.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 29, 2017 02:28 PM (iVOAv)

13 Bourne Ultimatum fight-to-death scene. And done to perfection using the same sound track by the great lego stop-motion video artist, Keshen 8. Check it out on YouTube.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 29, 2017 02:28 PM (rSubP)

14 I could teach an entire film class just on the truck chase/fight from "Raiders..." Utter genius. Clear, sensible, clear, gripping, clear, fun, witty... and did I mention clear?

Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 02:29 PM (s5kbe)

15 I liked the Skyfall fight scene. Reminiscent of the Highlander final fight.

Posted by: Esch at July 29, 2017 02:30 PM (EtkTk)

16 I have never been a fan of the super flashy fight sequences with exploding Kawasaki motorcycles crashing through glass elevators, and men zip-roping into pools of sharks with laser beams. One of the better fight scenes I ever saw in a film was in Lethal Weapon, when Mel and Gary fought on the front lawn. It was chaotic, and had a lot of close-in shots, but it was very well done. The highly choreographed fight scenes have always felt, well, choreographed.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 02:30 PM (5JgkQ)

17 But on to talking about action scenes, I don't disagree with what you're saying. But I need something more from a movie action scene, or I'd be better off playing a video game: Character. The fight needs to mean something. It needs to matter and not just be an excuse to watch things blow up. For that, heck, watch a fireworks display on Youtube or something. And part of that 'meaning' is that I need to believe in the characters performing the action. That's why I've got zero interest in Atomic Blonde. The trailers I've seen of her fight scenes are both too realistic and too unrealistic for me. Realistic in the sense that they're grounded in a place, time and genre that corresponds to the 'really real world' (as The Crow said so memorably). That realistic setting means stuff needs to make real world sense to me. And it's unrealistic for reasons Steven Crowder has gone into at some length...and is one of my pet bugaboos: pretty girls beating up tough men. I've done enough martial arts and sparred against legit buff girls. Mass matters. Speed matters, yes, but mass matters more in melee. The ability to give AND take a punch requires muscle, bone density and even some body fat frankly. Anyway, TL;DR, I'm sure. But that's my $.03

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2017 02:31 PM (xJa6I)

18 Another movie question for the Horde: What would people here say is Woody Allen's greatest film? And do people here prefer his early slapstick work (Take The Money And Run, Sleeper) or later more mature work (Annie Hall, Hannah And Her Sisters)? (Remember that Woody is the guy who beat out George Lucas and Star Wars for Best Picture 1977 with Annie Hall, which IMHO was probably a mistake.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 02:31 PM (eMKNe)

19 Not action but one of the finest long long tracking shot openers ever, Robert Altman's "The Player."

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 29, 2017 02:31 PM (rSubP)

20 Fenelon - Prayers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2017 02:31 PM (/ZEVC)

21 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 29, 2017 07:28 PM (iVOAv) Done. Love to you and yours, Fen.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 02:32 PM (5JgkQ)

22 Now, the film adaptation of "What Happened" is going to be a blockbuster. I can't wait for the scene of Hills throwing vodka bottles on election night.

Posted by: Aunt Luna at July 29, 2017 02:32 PM (Zd2ZF)

23 The highly choreographed fight scenes have always felt, well, choreographed. Posted by: Pug Mahon ----------- Mostly, they are just plain stupid in their excess.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2017 02:32 PM (/ZEVC)

24 Aunt Luna, LOL. Better still, a mashup of "What Happened" and "Get Out." :-P "YOU'VE RUINED EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 02:33 PM (eMKNe)

25 @qdpsteve Love and Death or What's new Tigerlilly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2017 02:33 PM (xJa6I)

26 The Showdown at House of Blue Leaves is one of the greatest action sequences ever filmed. Never heard of it. Must be from Kill Bill, I guess. Never saw it. Never even wanted to see it. I don't understand what people like about Tarantino. I really don't.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2017 02:34 PM (rZ+mb)

27 Now, the film adaptation of "What Happened" is going to be a blockbuster. I can't wait for the scene of Hills throwing vodka bottles on election night. You won't get that. You'll get Christopher Walken playing Trump in his best creepy New Yorker mafioso style, chewing the furniture and sneering; and you'll get Meryl Streep made up to the nines playing the tragic hero(ine) who was just trying to make the world a better place. ... okay, I'd still watch the sh!t out of that. Walken-Trump would be a blast to see on the screen.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 02:35 PM (6FqZa)

28 Also, related to 'clarity', an action scene needs to avoid shakycam and cuts that don't show the actual fighting. If you didn't cast someone who can convincingly fake-fight, you've failed at movie making.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2017 02:35 PM (xJa6I)

29 MAE, thanks. I personally would like to add Hannah and Her Sisters (which I saw in 1986 when it first came out on VHS), Manhattan, Stardust Memories (Woody basically giving the finger to the celebrity-worshiping public), Radio Days, and Crimes & Misdemeanors to my collection.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 02:35 PM (eMKNe)

30 Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 07:31 PM (eMKNe) Beginning to end, I would have to say Bananas.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2017 02:35 PM (rZ+mb)

31 True Lies. The limo on the causeway scene. Harriers, shit blowing up, terrorists with atomic bombs, Tia Carrere and Jamie Lee Curtis in a red hot cat fight in the back seat. and Arnold hanging off chopper skid to pull Jamie Lee through the sunroof as the limo goes over the side.

Posted by: tu3031 at July 29, 2017 02:36 PM (qJhUV)

32 Walken-Trump would be a blast to see on the screen. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 07:35 PM (6FqZa) Seconded. I'd watch the hell out of that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2017 02:36 PM (xJa6I)

33 I don't have anything to offer movie wise, so I'll just note that Trump's last two tweets in the past 20 minutes or so was bashing China. Back later.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 29, 2017 02:36 PM (jHP/z)

34 Well, everyone knows .38 revolver or a .30 carbine won't bring down a giant ant. It takes a .45 Thompson. Minimum. I just seen it on tv.

Posted by: Eromero at July 29, 2017 02:36 PM (zLDYs)

35 Primordial, I still have yet to see that one. It's on my bucket list of films.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 02:36 PM (eMKNe)

36 Now, the film adaptation of "What Happened" is going to be a blockbuster. I can't wait for the scene of Hills throwing vodka bottles on election night. Posted by: Aunt Luna at July 29, 2017 07:32 PM (Zd2ZF) That would be awesome. Rerun hasn't had a gig for 40 years. He needs this.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2017 02:37 PM (rZ+mb)

37 Posted by: qdpsteve ---- I know Woody is a hated figure here, but he did teach me a hell of a lot about writing. His "early funny films" are eternal. They actually top Mel Brooks in that era. "Love & Death" is the best. "Bullets Over Broadway" is brilliant; every damned line. That and "Purple Rose Of Cairo" are probably my faves. "Alice" is an unknown gem. He's really let me down, though. I haven't liked anything he's done in about the past 18 years. It's like he's had a whole 2nd career as a shitty writer. I think he's surrounded by sycophants, and no one will say to him, "This is a rough draft. Go do three more drafts before you bust out the lights and cameras."

Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 02:37 PM (s5kbe)

38 You want a good fight scene? Episode 2 of Band of Brothers, when LT Winters leads a squad to take out the guns. *gently replaces the mike in the stand*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 02:37 PM (5JgkQ)

39 @qdpsteve For me, the further Woody Allen is away from talking about himself, the better the film is for me. It's why I like his early stuff, it feels like he's playing a character. With Annie Hall on, it feels like he stopped playing and started doing his therapy sessions onscreen and getting us to pay for them. He's also done good work later in his career. All the films you've listed have had stuff I've liked in it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2017 02:38 PM (xJa6I)

40 Now, the film adaptation of "What Happened" is going to be a blockbuster. I can't wait for the scene of Hills throwing vodka bottles on election night. Posted by: Aunt Luna ----- But will they be able to film it without the script getting leaked? RUSSIANS! RUSSIANS!

Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 02:38 PM (s5kbe)

41 the fight scene in "They Live" was pretty much a homoerotic love scene.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 02:38 PM (6FqZa)

42 RKae, I agree with everything you said. WA has definitely come way down in quality in the last 10-15-20 years IMHO. There's a few of his later flicks that I personally refuse to see, they seem like either just exercises in self-masturbation or didactic politics, such as Vicky Christy Barcelona and Magic In The Moonlight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 02:39 PM (eMKNe)

43 ... okay, I'd still watch the sh!t out of that. Walken-Trump would be a blast to see on the screen.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 07:35 PM (6FqZa)

That sounds awesome! Although I'm just imagining Walken quoting the "build a wall" campaign speech in his regular Walken voice. Still amazing.

Posted by: Aunt Luna at July 29, 2017 02:39 PM (Zd2ZF)

44 Since I was mentioning messed-up, hilarious New Zealand splatter movies, let's discuss "I kick ass for the Lord!" in Peter Jackson's Brain Dead. Or the battle scene at Helm's Deep.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 02:39 PM (6FqZa)

45 Fight scene? Hugh Grant and Colin Firth in "Bridget Jones's Diary." "It's a fight! A real fight!"

Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 02:39 PM (s5kbe)

46 Honestly, I'd put The Matrix as one of the best action movies of all time. Bar none. The movie really holds up and all the freaky stuff fits in the context of the story, so you have drama, character, and suspension of disbelief added to...cool superhero stuff.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2017 02:39 PM (xJa6I)

47 18 Another movie question for the Horde:

What would people here say is Woody Allen's greatest film? And do people here prefer his early slapstick work (Take The Money And Run, Sleeper) or later more mature work (Annie Hall, Hannah And Her Sisters)?

(Remember that Woody is the guy who beat out George Lucas and Star Wars for Best Picture 1977 with Annie Hall, which IMHO was probably a mistake.)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 07:31 PM (eMKNe)

++++

I like his later stuff better. His best film was Crimes and Misdemeanors. His best comedy was Mighty Aphrodite.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 29, 2017 02:40 PM (FUu/Z)

48 Some of the best fight scenes are found in Steven Segal movies (his style is very interesting). Above the Law had great fighting. Also, the fight scenes in The Bourne Identity were awesome. That was no reason to make two or three sequels to it ... but they were great. Best single-action fight scene: Daniel Craig laying out the boss' kid in Cowboys and Aliens.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2017 02:40 PM (rZ+mb)

49 MAE, also true. The one thing I give Allen credit for lately is that he finally realized he was too old to play the lead love interest in his flicks, and started hiring younger actors to play those parts.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 02:41 PM (eMKNe)

50 I like his later stuff better. His best film was Crimes and Misdemeanors. His best comedy was Mighty Aphrodite. Posted by: Anon Y. Mous ---- Yup. I forgot to mention "Crimes & Misdemeanors." Stunning! Every performance is golden!

Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 02:41 PM (s5kbe)

51 Movies. Cool! Yeah, Tarantino has a good eye. Everything in the house of blue leaves is extremely well done.

Posted by: otho at July 29, 2017 02:42 PM (qGuLD)

52 Brandon Lee as Draven in "The Crow" taking out the room full of mobsters. "I just want *him*." "Well you can't have *him*."

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 02:42 PM (6FqZa)

53 Helm's deep walked the line between awesome and silly. And then Legolas surfed a shield across the line. But that bit aside, you've got a great mix of clear action, high stakes, heroism, even humor with Gimli. I think it is the reason I actually like the Two Towers best out of the Jackson trilogy. I mean, the elves showing up doesn't match lore or theme of the books...but it worked emotionally for me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2017 02:42 PM (xJa6I)

54 I have a hunch Crimes & Misdemeanors will be recognized as Woody Allen's last great film.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 02:42 PM (eMKNe)

55 The Disneyland scene in Zombieland.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 02:43 PM (6FqZa)

56 Woody Allen? 'What's Up Tiger Lily'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2017 02:43 PM (/ZEVC)

57 The Prison Escape from Oldboy was damn good, too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2017 02:43 PM (xJa6I)

58 Done, FenelonSpoke.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) [/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 29, 2017 02:43 PM (nvMvs)

59 Denzel wiping out the Russian pimp and minions in "The Equalizer." I could watch that every damned day.

Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 02:44 PM (s5kbe)

60 I have a hunch Crimes & Misdemeanors will be recognized as Woody Allen's last great film. Posted by: qdpsteve ---- I'll second that.

Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 02:44 PM (s5kbe)

61 Most of the gunfights in 'Leon' or 'The Professional' were very convincing, very cool. I think Way of the Gun went too far in that direction and stopped being cinematic (a real gunfight is more or less just murdering people...unless things go very wrong). I like movie action scenes to have a sense of style, so long as they don't break my logical part of my brain.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2017 02:46 PM (xJa6I)

62 23
The highly choreographed fight scenes have always felt, well, choreographed.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
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Mostly, they are just plain stupid in their excess.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2017 07:32 PM (/ZEVC)

++++

Exactly. Plus, the super duper stuff. Like the Kill Bill fight scenes. Someone jumps up in the air and kills 3 people before they land. Give me a fucking break!

An excellent movie sword fight was the final one in Rob Roy. It mattered. Two different fighting styles. Nothing unbelievable or contrived. And, I never lost interest or hoped that they would get to the end already.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 29, 2017 02:47 PM (pvjTE)

63 "And so, who was next? It was Clyde, right? You must have killed Clyde. Well, it could have been Deputy Andy. Wasn't it? Or, or..." "All I can tell you is who's gonna be last."

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 02:47 PM (6FqZa)

64 Action scene? Jonathan Winters busting up the gas station in IAMMMMW.

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2017 02:48 PM (Sfs6o)

65 I'm a big fan of aerial combat scenes but they frequently call victim to the "muddy" rule. Before CGI, it was difficult (and, no doubt) expensive) to film dogfights in a coherent way. I thought Dunkirk did it well. I am sometimes amazed at the CGI work on documentaries. There was a doc on Nat Geo I think featuring Gunther Rall that, I thought, gave you a real you-are-there feeling especially when he attacks a massive B-17 stream. Flyboys sucked as a movie but I thought the dogfight scenes were good.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 29, 2017 02:48 PM (Nwg0u)

66 Late to my own thread...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 29, 2017 02:48 PM (Jj43a)

67 One movie I think I will be adding to my collection soon: "Moscow On The Hudson." It's a bit expensive (only available at the Twilight Time website for $29.95, more or less) but you all have recommended it so highly, and next month is my birthday so I figure I can afford to treat myself. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 02:48 PM (eMKNe)

68 Fight scene?

Hugh Grant and Colin Firth in "Bridget Jones's Diary."

The only reason to watch the movie is to see Hugh Grant get his ass kicked.

Posted by: tu3031 at July 29, 2017 02:48 PM (qJhUV)

69 Action scene? Jonathan Winters busting up the gas station in IAMMMMW. Posted by: Weasel ---- Oh. My. God. Yes!

Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 02:48 PM (s5kbe)

70 An excellent movie sword fight was the final one in Rob Roy. It mattered. Two different fighting styles. Nothing unbelievable or contrived. And, I never lost interest or hoped that they would get to the end already. Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 29, 2017 07:47 PM (pvjTE) Great example. Love that movie.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 02:49 PM (5JgkQ)

71 Well, everyone knows .38 revolver or a .30 carbine won't bring down a giant ant. It takes a .45 Thompson. Minimum. I just seen it on tv. Posted by: Eromero at July 29, 2017 07:36 PM But the flame thrower worked best.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 29, 2017 02:50 PM (IqV8l)

72 17 character Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2017 07:31 PM (xJa6I) ===== When you're right, you're right. I was just thinking of the mechanics of an action scene for this thread. How one fits within a movie though, isa separate question. One I have opinions on, if you believe it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 29, 2017 02:50 PM (Jj43a)

73 I'm simpatico with Oregonmuse's taste in movies.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 29, 2017 02:50 PM (rnAwa)

74 Fen, I have all kinds of stuff I want to ask you. Not an expert on every mental/emotional issue, but gone through and seen a lot. If you're reading this and want to talk, my email is my online handle at gee mail d o t c o m.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 29, 2017 02:50 PM (FQKBL)

75 Hugh Grant and Colin Firth in "Bridget Jones's Diary." Adam Sandler and Bob Barker in Happy Gilmore.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2017 02:50 PM (rZ+mb)

76 But the flame thrower worked best. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. But what if you have fire ants?

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 02:51 PM (eMKNe)

77 An excellent movie sword fight was the final one in Rob Roy. It mattered. Two different fighting styles. Nothing unbelievable or contrived. And, I never lost interest or hoped that they would get to the end already. Posted by: Anon Y. Mous ---- Indeed. And that film has a great script, too. The lines are full of clever quips. "Well, if our friend Killairn doesn't know an old crone with a twig, I miss my guess."

Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 02:51 PM (s5kbe)

78 73 I'm simpatico with Oregonmuse's taste in movies. Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 29, 2017 07:50 PM (rnAwa) ======= What about mine?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 29, 2017 02:51 PM (Jj43a)

79 You want a good fight scene? Episode 2 of Band of Brothers, when LT Winters leads a squad to take out the guns. *gently replaces the mike in the stand* - +1

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 29, 2017 02:51 PM (Nwg0u)

80 Seen everything by Woodie at least twice, and liked Match Point the best. Terrific setup, fabulous ending.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 29, 2017 02:51 PM (rSubP)

81 Seen everything by Woodie at least twice, and liked Match Point the best. Terrific setup, fabulous ending. Posted by: Les Kinetic ---- I just thought he'd already tread that ground in "Crimes & Misdemeanors." It seemed a pointless endeavor.

Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 02:52 PM (s5kbe)

82 I like Bruce Lee movies but not movies with that flying around kungfu shit. Watching an old Wonder Woman episode right now. Lots of action in that iykwim wink wink nudge nudge.

Posted by: freaked at July 29, 2017 02:52 PM (BO/km)

83 Errol Flynn & Basil Rathbone.

Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 02:53 PM (s5kbe)

84 But the flame thrower worked best. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. But what if you have fire ants? Posted by: qdpsteve Anti-flame thrower

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 29, 2017 02:53 PM (IqV8l)

85 Les Kinetic, that's a WA movie I barely even knew existed. Thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 02:53 PM (eMKNe)

86 One of my favorite action scenes was in McLintock! with John Wayne. It was hilarious!

Posted by: Old Blue at July 29, 2017 02:53 PM (FAo3p)

87 Good fight scene in Heat with Burt Reynolds (not the film with Pacino and DeNiro). Obnoxious punk villain with huge bodyguards (one played by Joe Klecko) that ran afoul of Burt. I apologize for not having the title of the film but I remember Virgo Mortenson and another Russian thug having a fight in a Russian bathhouse, naked, with linoleum knives. Rather intense.

Posted by: RM at July 29, 2017 02:53 PM (eP+dt)

88 Best action in the Game of Thrones series so far is "Hardhome".

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 02:53 PM (6FqZa)

89 Except Match Point had Scarlett.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 29, 2017 02:53 PM (rSubP)

90 RM, was that "A History of Violence"?

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 02:53 PM (eMKNe)

91 Errol Flynn & Basil Rathbone. Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 07:53 PM And in reality Basil Rathbone was an expert swordsman.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 29, 2017 02:54 PM (IqV8l)

92 87 I apologize for not having the title of the film but I remember Virgo Mortenson and another Russian thug having a fight in a Russian bathhouse, naked, with linoleum knives. Rather intense. Posted by: RM at July 29, 2017 07:53 PM (eP+dt) =====[ Eastern promises

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 29, 2017 02:54 PM (Jj43a)

93 I apologize for not having the title of the film but I remember Virgo Mortenson and another Russian thug having a fight in a Russian bathhouse, naked, with linoleum knives. Rather intense. Posted by: RM at July 29, 2017 07:53 PM (eP+dt) Was it Eastern Promises? I remember cringing a lot. Great fight sequence.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 02:54 PM (5JgkQ)

94 I apologize for not having the title of the film but I remember Virgo Mortenson and another Russian thug having a fight in a Russian bathhouse, naked, with linoleum knives. Rather intense. - Eastern Promises. Good movie.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 29, 2017 02:55 PM (Nwg0u)

95 Burt Reynolds is a great example of a celeb who did an incredible run of great classic movies, and then his career went downhill in a big hurry. I've read he contracted "Elvis syndrome," i.e. he ended up surrounded with sycophants giving him horrible personal and career advice.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 02:55 PM (eMKNe)

96 I apologize for not having the title of the film but I remember Virgo Mortenson and another Russian thug having a fight in a Russian bathhouse, naked, with linoleum knives. Rather intense. Posted by: RM at July 29, 2017 07:53 PM (eP+dt) Was that Eastern Promises?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2017 02:55 PM (rZ+mb)

97 TJM beat me to it. Eastern Promises. Dark movie.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 29, 2017 02:55 PM (FAo3p)

98 Indeed. And that film has a great script, too. The lines are full of clever quips.

"Well, if our friend Killairn doesn't know an old crone with a twig, I miss my guess."

Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 07:51 PM (s5kbe)

++++

Heh. The on that makes me smile every time is John Hurt asking, "Do you take me entirely for a Windsor?" Meaning do you think I'm a fool.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 29, 2017 02:55 PM (pvjTE)

99 Oh wait. I got it. Kirk vs. the Gorn. Best. Evar!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 02:55 PM (5JgkQ)

100 "Do you take me entirely for a Windsor?" I do knot.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 29, 2017 02:56 PM (IqV8l)

101 An action scene I have always been very fond of, that breaks the rules of how they are supposed to be done, is the subway scene in Predator 2. Can't quite figure out if it's a total mess, or sheer genius, but damn, it works well.

Posted by: otho at July 29, 2017 02:56 PM (qGuLD)

102 Barroom shootout in "Shane." Realism in a 50s western.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 29, 2017 02:56 PM (rSubP)

103 I can walk and chew gum at the same time!

Posted by: Prince Charles at July 29, 2017 02:56 PM (eMKNe)

104 We watched Houseboat a few nights ago. No big action scenes, but Sophia Loren sure was a babe.

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2017 02:56 PM (Sfs6o)

105 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 29, 2017 02:57 PM (KCxzN)

106 Burt Reynolds is a great example of a celeb who did an incredible run of great classic movies, and then his career went downhill in a big hurry. I really liked his role in Mystery, Alaska. He was the one adult in that town.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 02:57 PM (5JgkQ)

107 Was that Eastern Promises? Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2017 07:55 PM It was. Bloody good scene.

Posted by: otho at July 29, 2017 02:57 PM (qGuLD)

108 Tim Allen versus the Rock Monster. "I know! You construct a weapon. Look around you. Can you form some sort of rudimentary lathe?"'

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 02:57 PM (6FqZa)

109 "Kirk vs. the Gorn" Watch it at 2X speed. You've never seen such action.

Posted by: freaked at July 29, 2017 02:57 PM (BO/km)

110 Burt Reynolds is a great example of a celeb who did an incredible run of great classic movies, and then his career went downhill in a big hurry. But then he came back with Boogie Nights. I really liked his role in Mystery, Alaska. He was the one adult in that town. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 07:57 PM (5JgkQ) Fun movie.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2017 02:58 PM (rZ+mb)

111 Pug, oh yeah. Burt also did a great cameo as Doug's 1980s high school gym teacher in an episode of The King Of Queens about 15 years ago, I believe.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 02:58 PM (eMKNe)

112 The chase sequence from The French Connection is still one of the greatest action scenes ever filmed. Fast, loud, and ridiculously compelling. Literally pulse-pounding. Friedkin's staging and pacing of this sequence is pure brilliance.

Posted by: Major1 at July 29, 2017 02:58 PM (UjIiY)

113 Linda Evans vs. Joan Collins

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2017 02:59 PM (rZ+mb)

114 Tim Allen versus the Rock Monster. "I know! You construct a weapon. Look around you. Can you form some sort of rudimentary lathe?"' Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 07:57 PM (6FqZa) This might be the best movie ever filmed. Not even kidding.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 02:59 PM (5JgkQ)

115 My favorite fight scenes; They Live - Rowdy Roddy Piper vs David Keith. You can actually watch it on South Park too in the "Cripple Fight" episode. Lethal Weapon - Mel Gibson vs. Gary Busey Die Hard - Bruce Willis vs that really tall blond euro trash guy.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 29, 2017 03:00 PM (aELIg)

116 "Never be boring" means that if you are going to have an action scene that lasts more than a few seconds, you can't have the same thing repeated endlessly. Imagine two little boys with toy swords just parrying little blows back and forth without ever changing. That wouldn't be terribly exciting, now would it. If you have a fist fight, it can't just be two guys throwing little jabs, but you have at least mix it up with some other moves to keep things from growing stale. This describes the fight scene in one of the Star Wars movie between Yoda the Puppet, and the Evil Sith Lord where Yoda the Puppet is bouncing off the walls and the ceiling like a ... like a ... well, he was bouncing all over the place. Completely fake and unbelievable.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 29, 2017 03:00 PM (m9X4Y)

117 A truly great action scene in a recent movie, is the museum shootout in "The International" with Clive Owen, I think. Worth catching the flick just for the shootout.

Posted by: otho at July 29, 2017 03:00 PM (qGuLD)

118 I'm thinking, and have been reading every comment

Posted by: Skip at July 29, 2017 03:00 PM (pPKG5)

119 Linda Evans vs. Joan Collins Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2017 07:59 PM (rZ+mb) Linda Evans and Joe Don Baker... MITCHELL!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 03:01 PM (5JgkQ)

120 Linda Evans vs. Joan Collins Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair LOL. Some of the funniest, wittiest writing ever was published back in the 1980s, about what an over-the-top craptacular spectacle Dynasty was. Didn't the producers finally give in on Dynasty and have an episode where Linda and Joan *actually* got into an all-out knock-down drag-out cat fight? I think they did. Was probably for sweeps one season.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 03:01 PM (eMKNe)

121 No mention of the big fight scene in Blazing Saddles?  I don't even know you people any more.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at July 29, 2017 03:01 PM (xuv8D)

122 The sword fights of Errol Flynn.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yal566b4

Lots of movement both lateral and vertical.

Posted by: X-ray at July 29, 2017 03:01 PM (XsmIU)

123 Two more favorites: Tombstone. Doc Holiday especially but the world-famous O.K. Corral shootout was the best version I've ever seen. And Ronin. A prefect balance of realism and cinema. The only really 'Hollywood' scene is the ambush. But the other scenes are great: build up, tension, sudden action and release. Like the 'ambush' of Sean Bean's poser character or the car scene between Saarsguard and the Russian. Hell, even the moment when Saarsgard takes his glasses off before Jonathan Pryce starts punching him gets me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2017 03:02 PM (xJa6I)

124 This describes the fight scene in one of the Star Wars movie between Yoda the Puppet, and the Evil Sith Lord where Yoda the Puppet is bouncing off the walls and the ceiling like a ... like a ... well, he was bouncing all over the place. Completely fake and unbelievable. Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 29, 2017 08:00 PM (m9X4Y) True. I actually guffawed out loud when I first saw that. It was completely cartoonish and silly.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at July 29, 2017 03:02 PM (T71PA)

125 I discovered that Michael Caine, or at least his voice, appeared in an uncredited role in Dunkirk as the voice on the radio directing the Spits. That inspired me to look him up on IMDb and several of his quotes cause me to think he has certain Moron-like qualities. One of his quotes i liked was, "I've made an awful lot of movies. I've made a lot of awful movies."

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 29, 2017 03:03 PM (Nwg0u)

126 Didn't the producers finally give in on Dynasty and have an episode where Linda and Joan *actually* got into an all-out knock-down drag-out cat fight? I think they did. Was probably for sweeps one season. Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 08:01 PM (eMKNe) It was a big deal. They would have done it on pay-per-view, if it had existed.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2017 03:03 PM (rZ+mb)

127 McLintock - Now we'll all calm down!
Drago - Take it easy boss, he's just  a little excited, that's all.
McLintock - I know, I know. I'm gonna use good judgement. I haven't lost my temper in forty years, but pilgrim, you've cause a lot of trouble this morning, might have got somebody killed...and somebody ought to belt you in the mouth. But I won't...I won't...The hell I won't
Whops the guy in the choppers

Posted by: Old Blue at July 29, 2017 03:03 PM (FAo3p)

128 Eastern Promises, thanks!

Posted by: RM at July 29, 2017 03:03 PM (eP+dt)

129 Die Hard - Bruce Willis vs that really tall blond euro trash guy. Posted by: Puddleglum at July 29, 2017 08:00 PM (aELIg) That was the late, great ballet dancer Alexander Godunov. I loved that scene. Martial arts vs 'brawlin'

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2017 03:04 PM (xJa6I)

130 Rob Roy - Liam Neeson vs Tim Roth - Not your typical sword dual. I liked it. Sort of a battle between a street fighter (Neeson) vs. an actual swordsman (Roth). Underrated flick too.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 29, 2017 03:04 PM (aELIg)

131 Primordial, yup. Dynasty used to make Dallas look Shakespearean.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 03:05 PM (eMKNe)

132 Well, I'm done with work finally. Very, very glad I got to chime in on this thread. Thanks James Madison. I do love movies and love talking about them. Now to get some food.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2017 03:05 PM (xJa6I)

133 i thought Love in the Afternoon was the Gary Cooper/ Audrey Hepburn movie, turns out its current French flick.

Posted by: kallisto at July 29, 2017 03:05 PM (g+Dix)

134 Then there was Falcon Crest. Kind of a let down on Friday nights on CBS, after Dukes Of Hazzard and Dallas.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 03:06 PM (eMKNe)

135 Most people love Skyfall I didn't. Awful bore and another shitty bad guy. The only good thing was Judi Dench dying. The Craig Bond's have been all down hill since Casino Royale. Great fight scene - Sean Connery and Robert Shaw on the train in From Russia With Love. Confined space, two men trying to kill each other

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 29, 2017 03:06 PM (auHtY)

136 Best choreographed SWORD fight scenes evah???? ie, ones who best showed how they actually fought??? The Three and Four Musketeers... the ones with Michael York... All choreographed by a True Master Swordsman William Hobbs....

Posted by: Don Q., Arcanist at July 29, 2017 03:06 PM (NgKpN)

137 132 Thanks James Madison. I do love movies and love talking about them. Now to get some food. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2017 08:05 PM (xJa6I) ====== No problem. Have a great evening!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 29, 2017 03:07 PM (Jj43a)

138 That was the late, great ballet dancer Alexander Godunov. I loved that scene. Martial arts vs 'brawlin' Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2017 08:04 PM (xJa6I) Godunov was also in The Money Pit, and was very funny in his role. He had a great line to Tom Hanks about getting over girl problems.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2017 03:07 PM (rZ+mb)

139 That was the late, great ballet dancer Alexander Godunov.
Did not know that. Interesting. Summer Glau was a ballet dancer too. They used that in her fight scenes in Serenity.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 29, 2017 03:07 PM (aELIg)

140 Skyfall couldn't seem to decide where the ending should be. I remember watching it and thinking "okay, this should be it... no, this is probably it... no, this... geez, are they STILL going?!?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 03:07 PM (eMKNe)

141 Linda Evans and Joe Don Baker... MITCHELL! Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 08:01 PM (5JgkQ) Heart-pounding! Mitchell! Veins clogging! Mitchell!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 29, 2017 03:08 PM (auHtY)

142 The Robert Shaw Bond fight scene on the train was a great one.

Posted by: RM at July 29, 2017 03:09 PM (eP+dt)

143 One of the trickiest things about great movie making: Putting the ending where it belongs and no later. There's a number of directors who have a lot of trouble figuring out when the right second is to leave.the.freaking.stage. As a director, you are almost *always* better off leaving the audience going "it's over already?!?" than asking when the final curtain is finally coming.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 03:09 PM (eMKNe)

144 I liked the fight scene with Darth Maul, Obi-Wan Kenobi, and Qui-Jon Jinn.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 29, 2017 03:10 PM (FAo3p)

145 Skyfall I only watched Bond movies for the chicks. The rest was ridiculous. All of it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 03:10 PM (5JgkQ)

146 Alright, now the real reason I wrote all of this, . . . Uma.

Posted by: gNewt at July 29, 2017 03:10 PM (i7/wm)

147 Errol Flynn & Basil Rathbone. Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 07:53 PM (s5kbe) Basil and Tyrone Power in Zorro was another good sword fight. Outside of Sherlock Holmes, I think Basil was cast as a villain

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 29, 2017 03:11 PM (auHtY)

148 144 I liked the fight scene with Darth Maul, Obi-Wan Kenobi, and Qui-Jon Jinn. Posted by: Old Blue at July 29, 2017 08:10 PM (FAo3p) yeah. Right up to the point where Darth Maul got cut in half.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 03:11 PM (5JgkQ)

149 What do people here think is the next great Bond franchise, now that 007 seems to have been completely played out? My hunch is Atomic Blonde and Kingsman have great potential as action-packed national spy/security comedy-action franchises. OTOH I refuse to see any of the Bourne or Mission: Impossible flicks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 03:11 PM (eMKNe)

150 I saw a documentary showing how all of those actors studied Kendo for the sword fighting scenes.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 29, 2017 03:12 PM (FAo3p)

151 I assume Colin Firth trained a little between Bridget Jones and Kingsmen.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 29, 2017 03:12 PM (rnAwa)

152 Godunev was a great addition in every film I saw him in. Excellent in Witness as a good guy foil to Harrison Ford. Shame he was lost way too soon.

Posted by: RM at July 29, 2017 03:12 PM (eP+dt)

153 Sword fight from "Princess Bride": Mandy Patinkin and Cary Elwes.

Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 03:12 PM (s5kbe)

154 Pretty much every fight/gunfight scene in The Matrix John Wick - pretty much every scene The hallway shootout from Kick Ass The bar parking lot fight from Reacher

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 29, 2017 03:13 PM (0mRoj)

155 143 One of the trickiest things about great movie making: Putting the ending where it belongs and no later. There's a number of directors who have a lot of trouble figuring out when the right second is to leave.the.freaking.stage.

As a director, you are almost *always* better off leaving the audience going "it's over already?!?" than asking when the final curtain is finally coming.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 08:09 PM (eMKNe)

++++

Tarantino cheated and put the end of the move in the middle in Pulp Fiction. When the movie actually ended, the audience had to decide if they wanted more of the middle of the flick.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 29, 2017 03:13 PM (FUu/Z)

156 Ace...or somebody, here's looking at you kid, should put all of these movie threads together as one post. Eh?

Posted by: gNewt at July 29, 2017 03:13 PM (i7/wm)

157 yeah. Right up to the point where Darth Maul got cut in half.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 08:11 PM (5JgkQ)

Have you watched any of Forged in Fire? Where they cut a pig carcass in half with a blade in one stroke? Bet you could do that with a light saber.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 29, 2017 03:13 PM (FAo3p)

158 "Never be boring" means that if you are going to have an action scene that lasts more than a few seconds, you can't have the same thing repeated endlessly. Imagine two little boys with toy swords just parrying little blows back and forth without ever changing. That wouldn't be terribly exciting, now would it. I know there's a policy against ad hominems, but I'm sorry, this just shows what a dumbass intellectual lightweight you are. What about an action scene that goes on forever, with two men, one with the left half of his face black and the right half white, fighting another man, with the *right* half of his face black and the *left* half white? That's deep, man.

Posted by: TheJamesTKirk at July 29, 2017 03:14 PM (/qEW2)

159 Godunev was a great addition in every film I saw him in. Excellent in Witness as a good guy foil to Harrison Ford. Shame he was lost way too soon. Posted by: RM at July 29, 2017 08:12 PM (eP+dt) Yes. Alexander Gudenov was a very good actor. His look was intense, but his delivery was nicely subtle, even in flicks like The Money Pit.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 03:14 PM (5JgkQ)

160 OTOH I refuse to see any of the Bourne or Mission: Impossible flicks. Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 08:11 PM Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol is worth checking out and I'm not a fan of the series, but that one is pretty good.

Posted by: otho at July 29, 2017 03:14 PM (qGuLD)

161 148 144 I liked the fight scene with Darth Maul, Obi-Wan Kenobi, and Qui-Jon Jinn. Posted by: Old Blue at July 29, 2017 08:10 PM (FAo3p) yeah. Right up to the point where Darth Maul got cut in half. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 08:11 PM (5JgkQ) Yep. It was painfully obvious that Obi-Wan was outclassed and outmatched. The only reason he survived was his plot armor.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 29, 2017 03:14 PM (0mRoj)

162 Fight scenes, I'll have to mention the one in the movie name I use - the fight between John Wayne and Victor McLaughlin. Played for laughs for a lot of it including the old man getting off of his death bed to watch it but still a good one

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 29, 2017 03:15 PM (auHtY)

163 Inspector Clouseau vs. Kato.

Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 03:15 PM (s5kbe)

164 Anon, yup. Another over-the-top thing about Pulp Fiction. Sure it's entertaining somewhat, but the orgasms some people claim PF gave them? Good grief.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 03:15 PM (eMKNe)

165 Equilibrium has some great close combat scenes.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 29, 2017 03:15 PM (0mRoj)

166 otho, hmm. Seems like almost every crappy franchise has that one diamond in the rough. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 03:16 PM (eMKNe)

167 Ooh! Just thought of one: Robert Duvall in Secondhand Lions tearing through a passel of dipshits in a feed store.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 03:16 PM (5JgkQ)

168 For me, another essential element to an action/fight scene is some realism. I enjoy seeing Jack Reacher smack down the idiots who picked a fight with him, but am not a fan of the fights where they run up and down walls, etc. Yeah, I know, I'm dating myself.

Posted by: RM at July 29, 2017 03:17 PM (eP+dt)

169 Indy vs. the big, bald Nazi.

Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 03:17 PM (s5kbe)

170 Yeah, I know, I'm dating myself. Posted by: RM at July 29, 2017 08:17 PM (eP+dt) Do you pick up the tab or go Dutch?

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 29, 2017 03:17 PM (0mRoj)

171 If you've never seen Ginger Rogers in the slapping match in "Vivacious Lady," then your life is incomplete.

Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 03:18 PM (s5kbe)

172 Discounting firefights, thinking of some old b&w samurai movies

Posted by: Skip at July 29, 2017 03:19 PM (pPKG5)

173 I think a good idea for a future movie thread would be The One Good Moment Movie. In other words, a movie that's pretty bad or boring, but it has one perfect (or at least very good) moment in it.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 29, 2017 03:20 PM (MZcWR)

174 If you've never seen Ginger Rogers in the slapping match in "Vivacious Lady," then your life is incomplete. Posted by: RKae at July 29, 2017 08:18 PM (s5kbe) And so I speed off to the Internets!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 03:20 PM (5JgkQ)

175
OTOH I refuse to see any of the Bourne or Mission: Impossible flicks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 08:11 PM (eMKNe)

++++

There are many good reasons to criticize the Bourne series, but they do fight scenes extremely well. The violence explodes quickly; any available object could end up as a weapon, and none of it seems too fakey. Plus, while the chase scenes can take a while, the fight scenes play out pretty quickly.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 29, 2017 03:20 PM (FUu/Z)

176 Maureen O'Hara - also a babe.

Posted by: Weasel at July 29, 2017 03:21 PM (Sfs6o)

177 otho, hmm. Seems like almost every crappy franchise has that one diamond in the rough. ;-) Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 08:16 PM Yep. The other MI movies are clunky and made up of bits and pieces strung together, etc... but Ghost Protocol got everything right and delivered a fun action flick with a coherent story and some amazing action sequences in just the right spots. It does Bond better than any of the reboot flicks. It's got that tongue in cheek charm of classic Bond.

Posted by: otho at July 29, 2017 03:21 PM (qGuLD)

178 Anon, I admit my #1 reason for avoiding anything Bourne is because I can't stand Matt Damon anymore.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 03:21 PM (eMKNe)

179 I know, I'm dating myself I tried that but my right palm had to wash her hair.

Posted by: blil ywnn at July 29, 2017 03:22 PM (6FqZa)

180 but it has one perfect (or at least very good) moment in it. Titanic. No wait there are two perfect moments in Titanic.

Posted by: freaked at July 29, 2017 03:22 PM (BO/km)

181 Sorry, folks to disrupt your thread, but I am in heavy duty need of prayers for my son. Something is terribly wrong with him mentally / emotionally-and we don't have medical insurance. He just acted out in a way I haven't seen before. We have to figure out what we can do. I'm going to get off the thread now, so not to disrupt it anymore. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 29, 2017 07:28 PM (iVOAv) Golly, Fen, I hope you can get it sorted out. Does your son have a mentor or role model outside the family to whom he looks up? And have you considered that maybe he's just being bad? Just because he's diagnosed as autistic doesn't preclude the possibility of him getting a wild hair up his ass.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 29, 2017 03:22 PM (AWYXL)

182 Pick up the tab or go Dutch? Guess that depends on what I look like in the mirror before I go out...

Posted by: RM at July 29, 2017 03:22 PM (eP+dt)

183 Rob Roy - Liam Neeson vs Tim Roth - Not your typical sword dual. I liked it. Sort of a battle between a street fighter (Neeson) vs. an actual swordsman (Roth). Underrated flick too. Posted by: Puddleglum at July 29, 2017 08:04 PM (aELIg) Oh yeah, he fucked him up good.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 29, 2017 03:22 PM (aMlLZ)

184 Tommy Lee Jones defending his son in Lonesome Dove.

Posted by: gNewt at July 29, 2017 03:23 PM (i7/wm)

185 What about mine? Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 29, 2017 07:51 PM (Jj43a) Oops I read the bottom not the top.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 29, 2017 03:25 PM (rnAwa)

186 The Matrix: Reloaded: A twenty minute boring fight scene. I nearly fell asleep. Of course, back then I drank!

Posted by: Very Undude at July 29, 2017 03:26 PM (pmhkb)

187 Tommy Lee Jones defending his son in Lonesome Dove. Posted by: gNewt at July 29, 2017 08:23 PM (i7/wm) He would not tolerate rudeness in a man.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 03:26 PM (5JgkQ)

188 185 Oops I read the bottom not the top. Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 29, 2017 08:25 PM (rnAwa) ====== It's all in good fun. I'm just happy people keep coming back.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 29, 2017 03:27 PM (Jj43a)

189 Woody Allen? 'What's Up Tiger Lily' Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2017 07:43 PM (/ZEVC) "Sleeper" was pretty funny, IIRC. Of course, I saw it in the theater, never since.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 29, 2017 03:28 PM (AWYXL)

190 I won't tolerate rude behavior. hate misquoting stuff.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 03:28 PM (5JgkQ)

191 Dunkirk is crushing it  You know why?

No bullshit history rewrite or gratuitous SJW. Well other than when the Tuskegee airmen save the day. And Charlize Theron was terrific in her cameo as Winnie Churchill.

I'm sure the producers tried to push for a homosexual love interest to be added but Nolan told them to f off. He doesn't play and they have to accept because he's the best.

Posted by: charley horse at July 29, 2017 03:28 PM (+kahX)

192 178 Anon, I admit my #1 reason for avoiding anything Bourne is because I can't stand Matt Damon anymore.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 08:21 PM (eMKNe)

++++

My number one complaint is that they replaced the bad guys from the book (USSR) with the good guys (USA). In the books, Bourne was a US operative impersonating an independent assassin. He then had the memory loss, so he was conflicted when he started remembering his cover story as the assassin, thinking it was his true identity. But, the US was the good guys.

Now, of course, the US (except for Bourne and a few women agents) is the evil that Bourne must fight.

Damon is pretty good in the series as an action actor. The bad is the SJW politics.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 29, 2017 03:29 PM (FUu/Z)

193 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 29, 2017 07:28 PM (iVOAv) May the Peace of our Lord cover you, FenelonSpouse and FenelonSon.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at July 29, 2017 03:30 PM (D5XRv)

194 The bad is the SJW politics. Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 29, 2017 08:29 PM (FUu/Z) That right there covers a lot of the recent releases.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at July 29, 2017 03:32 PM (D5XRv)

195 Posted by: charley horse at July 29, 2017 08:28 PM (+kahX) One of many reasons I love watching Chris Nolan movies. He's very good, and has enough clout to tell the money-men, "nope." And his brother Jonathan is a very good screenwriter.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 03:32 PM (5JgkQ)

196 Best fight scene ever was when Dolemite came out of the diner and a bunch of punk ass utes were trying to tear down his Cadillac for the rims and he put the kung fu up their asses.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 29, 2017 03:33 PM (5VlCp)

197 Dunkirk is crushing it You know why? - I thought it was moving without being maudlin or sentimental, exciting without being a Michael Bay over-the-top extravaganza, and both realistic and poetic. Interesting that you never see a German before the final seconds of the movie.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 29, 2017 03:33 PM (Nwg0u)

198 Every Mission Impossible movie is good, except maybe the second one by John Woo. He never grew into the American market.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 29, 2017 03:34 PM (rnAwa)

199 "Sleeper" was pretty funny, IIRC. Of course, I saw it in the theater, never since. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 29, 2017 08:28 PM (AWYXL) Heh, "Sleeper" is the only WA movie I recall seeing. Almost as prophetic as 1984.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at July 29, 2017 03:34 PM (D5XRv)

200 Well, except for the flying cars. He got that wrong.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at July 29, 2017 03:35 PM (D5XRv)

201 Maureen O'Hara sliding down the mud chute to the mud pond at the bottom. And then jabs someone with her hat pin.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 29, 2017 03:35 PM (FAo3p)

202 Old Blue, what movie is that?

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 03:36 PM (eMKNe)

203 TJM . It's Chloe in the Afternoon for l'amour l'. apres-midi. I just re-checked the link.

Posted by: kallisto at July 29, 2017 03:36 PM (g+Dix)

204 GOT is just about played unless you're into Eunuch cameltoe.

GOT is grandly staged leftist claptrap.

Posted by: charley horse at July 29, 2017 03:37 PM (+kahX)

205 Haven't seen Dunkirk yet, but I want to. Can't believe all the SJW idiots caterwauling about how there aren't any POC in the movie. Obviously, history is not their strong point.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 29, 2017 03:37 PM (FAo3p)

206 qdpsteve, McLintock

Posted by: Old Blue at July 29, 2017 03:37 PM (FAo3p)

207 *Tommy Lee Jones defending his son in Lonesome Dove. Posted by: gNewt at July 29, 2017 08:23 PM (i7/wm) He would not tolerate rudeness in a man. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 29, 2017 08:26 PM (5JgkQ)* That right there was an all around fun movie. Start to finish.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at July 29, 2017 03:38 PM (D5XRv)

208 May have been before she went down the chute. But she definitely poked somebody with her hat pin in that fight scene. And she enjoyed it.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 29, 2017 03:39 PM (FAo3p)

209 Haven't seen Dunkirk yet, but I want to. Can't believe all the SJW idiots caterwauling about how there aren't any POC in the movie. Obviously, history is not their strong point. Posted by: Old Blue at July 29, 2017 08:37 PM (FAo3p) How can you say that? Didn't one of them this week just discovery that Melania Trump is from Slovakia when it was part of Soviet Yugoslavia. They're geniuses I tell you, geniuses!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 29, 2017 03:39 PM (auHtY)

210 >>> Maureen O'Hara sliding down the mud chute to the mud pond at the bottom. So inspiring.

Posted by: Hope Solo at July 29, 2017 03:40 PM (jw2Xw)

211 Old Blue, thanks!

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 29, 2017 03:40 PM (eMKNe)

212 Maureen O'Hara sliding down the mud chute to the mud pond at the bottom. And then jabs someone with her hat pin. Posted by: Old Blue at July 29, 2017 08:35 PM (FAo3p) Maureen O'Hara, mud pit. That is the important information.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at July 29, 2017 03:41 PM (D5XRv)

213 Ah you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!

Posted by: Bane at July 29, 2017 03:41 PM (rhwaS)

214 Good fight scene? Paul Newman and George Kennedy in "Cool Hand Luke."

Posted by: Gref at July 29, 2017 03:41 PM (AMIL/)

215 Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 29, 2017 08:39 PM (auHtY)

Yup, and if they are geniuses then I'm Albert frickin Einstein. And publius is way smarter than me. So are a lot of other Morons. I'm sort of a middle of the road Albert frickin Einstein.

Posted by: Old Blue at July 29, 2017 03:42 PM (FAo3p)

216 I don't like most action movies. I have a hard time enjoying action sequences that are not reasonably realistic, no matter how well they are done from a technical point of view. I'm sure there are exceptions; and the further a film strays from reality (sci-fi, supernatural), the more leeway I'll allow. But comic-book excess (like Tarentino) or nonsense (like women fistfighting a room full of men without getting their hair messed up) . . . I don't get the appeal. So I tend to end up liking the action sequences in war films the most or those where the gunfights seem plausible, like the bank-robbery shootout in Heat. Someone mentioned Ronin; right on.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 29, 2017 03:42 PM (H5knJ)

217 Very interesting to consider action in isolation. I'm not sure I am up to the job. That first Nolan Batman movie; I was bored. I think maybe vague action was part of that. But so was that ridiculous voice Batman used. Unrelated question: I could swear that, one day, in a hotel, I saw that same weird-faced guy who was a villain in that Batman movie, in some sort of surreal movie, on a hotel TV screen. I've tried walking through IMDB, and can't identify it. Can anyone? There were two teams of advertising types. One was composed of normal kinds of people, making allowances. Both were contemplating how to advertise a new kind of menstrual pad, with holes in it. The normal team joked about it and got nowhere. Then there was this other team, headed by the Batman villain with the weird, arrogant face. What I remember most is what he said, which went something like this: "I already have the campaign. We have women being incredibly active, with background music by Air Supply. At the end, the slogan comes onto the screen: 'Your own personal air supply.'" Can anyone identify the movie? I'd sort of like another look at it, even if it basically sucks.

Posted by: Splunge at July 29, 2017 03:42 PM (iMxBJ)

218 *How can you say that? Didn't one of them this week just discovery that Melania Trump is from Slovakia when it was part of Soviet Yugoslavia. They're geniuses I tell you, geniuses! Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 29, 2017 08:39 PM (auHtY)* Yep. That forced me to redraw my map of Europe from the mid 20th century. Can't believe those map bastards fooled me for so long.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at July 29, 2017 03:44 PM (D5XRv)

219 I can't remember the last time I watched a movie. Used to watch two or three a weekend.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 29, 2017 03:44 PM (CNHr1)

220 I never liked them hanging Spencer in Lonesome Dove. It seemed unnecessary and, frankly, unfriendly.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 29, 2017 03:44 PM (rhwaS)

221 "Way of the Gun'. Sarah Silverman gets punched in the face. Would've made a lot more money if they re-titled it, "Sarah Silverman Gets Punched in the Face".

Posted by: tu3031 at July 29, 2017 03:44 PM (qJhUV)

222 203 TJM . It's Chloe in the Afternoon for l'amour l'. apres-midi. I just re-checked the link. Posted by: kallisto at July 29, 2017 08:36 PM (g+Dix) ====== 2 titles. I prefer "Love" because it's closer to the original French title.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 29, 2017 03:44 PM (Jj43a)

223 221 "Way of the Gun'. Sarah Silverman gets punched in the face. Would've made a lot more money if they re-titled it, "Sarah Silverman Gets Punched in the Face". Posted by: tu3031 at July 29, 2017 08:44 PM (qJhUV) I could watch that scene on a ten-hour loop.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 29, 2017 03:45 PM (0mRoj)

224 TJM, this is your best entry to date, well done!

Off to read the comments...

Posted by: browndog at July 29, 2017 03:45 PM (bGMOs)

225 Most actions sequences in modern cinema are just too damn long and drawn out for me. I've always thought short, brutal sequences kinda' conveyed something. Made the violence matter more. So I've always been drawn to those kind of movies. Just me. YMMV.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2017 03:45 PM (fiGNd)

226 224 TJM, this is your best entry to date, well done! Off to read the comments... Posted by: browndog at July 29, 2017 08:45 PM (bGMOs) ====== Thank you very much!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 29, 2017 03:47 PM (Jj43a)

227 Anyone see the movie Free Fire with Cillian Murphy? Whole movie is a gun shootout set in the 70's. It is weird b/c it is unintentionally funny.

Posted by: squeakywheel at July 29, 2017 03:47 PM (Y/UW5)

228 Prayers Fenelon. I know all too well how it feels seeing your son in distress and feeling completely helpless.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 29, 2017 03:47 PM (CNHr1)

229 223 I could watch that scene on a ten-hour loop. Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 29, 2017 08:45 PM (0mRoj) There is something elemental about it, isn't there? I can't feel good about a woman being punched, under any circumstances. And yet, if I had to pick the one I would least object to, it would be that "I goad, you clean up afterwards by fighting" scenario.

Posted by: Splunge at July 29, 2017 03:47 PM (iMxBJ)

230 >>>Alright, now the real reason I wrote all of this, and the part that no one will end up reading because it's so far down. Nah, bro. You are completely off base. It's all about Uma Thurman's feet. Consider me to be Marshall McLuhan correcting you in Annie Hall.

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at July 29, 2017 03:50 PM (/qEW2)

231 OT: what's Arabic for "Oscar Schindler"? twitter.com/rcallimachi/status/886924520984129536 Hannah Ulm calls them "righteous among the nations". It applies. Even when indoctrinated through loudspeakers that what the evil do is G-d's will, some people listen to the still small voice instead.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 03:51 PM (6FqZa)

232 *Anyone see the movie Free Fire with Cillian Murphy? Whole movie is a gun shootout set in the 70's. It is weird b/c it is unintentionally funny. Posted by: squeakywheel at July 29, 2017 08:47 PM (Y/UW5)* Hmmm, never heard of it. However, having come of age in the '70's, I can believe it. Off to research this.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at July 29, 2017 03:52 PM (D5XRv)

233 19 Not action but one of the finest long long tracking shot openers ever, Robert Altman's "The Player." Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 29, 2017 07:31 PM (rSubP) True dat. I also love the 3-4 minute opening shot ascending into South Beach in "The Birdcage"

Posted by: The Gimp! at July 29, 2017 03:52 PM (8+cgT)

234 Second best fight scene ever was Burt Young as "Mac" in "The Killer Elite" laying the smack down on those chinamen in chinatown. Burt Young.....before his "Rocky" days. 70's baby!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 29, 2017 03:53 PM (5VlCp)

235 I was going to contribute the train fight scene in From Russia with Love, but someone beat me to it. Best of the Bonds. For for chase scene, I'm fond of On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Honorable mention for a fight scene: Bruce Willis vs Karl Urban in Red.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at July 29, 2017 03:53 PM (DIlG8)

236 It's all about Uma Thurman's feet. I tried to watch those movies. I just run out of "suspension of disbelief". For me - it's like the Art Thread. I can see why people like it - and I know I'm in the minority. I just don't "get it". Meh.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2017 03:53 PM (fiGNd)

237 Per IMBD regarding "Free Fire": When a black-market arms deal goes outrageously wrong, Justine finds herself caught in the crossfire, forced to navigate through a warehouse full of trigger-happy madmen who are all hanging on for dear life. Initial release: April 6, 2017 (Germany)

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at July 29, 2017 03:54 PM (D5XRv)

238 I'm only here for the brunettes. Hi Ace!!!

Posted by: Grendel at July 29, 2017 03:55 PM (8T91/)

239 I suggest you watch Robot a movie fro India, it has some CRAZY action scenes that are fun to watch. It's on Netflix

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 29, 2017 03:57 PM (dKiJG)

240 *Honorable mention for a fight scene: Bruce Willis vs Karl Urban in Red. Posted by: MichiCanuck at July 29, 2017 08:53 PM (DIlG * RED was another fun movie. In fact, Bruce Willis has one of the best records of fun movies per the tbodie scorecard. I know, YMMV.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at July 29, 2017 03:57 PM (D5XRv)

241 It's a whole different animal because it's a comic book fight but I thought the first fight in Deadpool was very good.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 29, 2017 03:58 PM (Nwg0u)

242 The fights in Blind Fury with Rutger Haur. (sp?)

Posted by: Eromero at July 29, 2017 03:58 PM (zLDYs)

243 *Posted by: Grendel at July 29, 2017 08:55 PM (8T91/)* Wait. How do you know Ace is a brunette!?

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at July 29, 2017 03:59 PM (D5XRv)

244 Oh Fen, heartfelt prayers are up from here!

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at July 29, 2017 04:00 PM (gwPgz)

245 1) "Never be muddy" means that there should be clarity to what is being conveyed. You should be able to tell where people are (the geography of the scene) and to differentiate between them. Say what now?

Posted by: Michael Bay laying out the next Transformers at July 29, 2017 04:02 PM (cAnNx)

246 Third best scene is in "Hobo with a Shotgun" when Rutger Hauer keeps the pimp from pimping and as the ho runs down the street we see the pimp's body fly out over the sidewalk from the Hobo's shotgun blast. Classic.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 29, 2017 04:03 PM (5VlCp)

247 *1) "Never be muddy" means that there should be clarity to what is being conveyed. You should be able to tell where people are (the geography of the scene) and to differentiate between them. Say what now? Posted by: Michael Bay laying out the next Transformers at July 29, 2017 09:02 PM (cAnNx)* Say what!? tbodie, remembering the last 5 "Transformers".

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at July 29, 2017 04:04 PM (D5XRv)

248 Prayers said, Fen. I knew your son was having a troublesome time, but I didn't know autism was in the mix.... it can be so hard, especially with a later diagnosis. Been there, er, still there, actually. ((((Hugs))))

Posted by: Gem at July 29, 2017 04:04 PM (uaHyk)

249 Ah you think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding!
Posted by: Bane at July 29, 2017 08:41 PM (rhwaS)


Did you forget to take your CPAP off this morning, again?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 29, 2017 04:04 PM (mkDpn)

250 Sorry, folks to disrupt your thread, but I am in heavy duty need of prayers for my son. Something is terribly wrong with him mentally / emotionally-and we don't have medical insurance. He just acted out in a way I haven't seen before. We have to figure out what we can do. I'm going to get off the thread now, so not to disrupt it anymore. Posted by: FenelonSpoke Can't offer prayers, because I'm not a believer. One thing that I'd advise you to review: I realize you hang out here so you've probably inoculated him against most liberal inanities, but maybe there's something overlooked. What does he watch on TV? What nonsense are his social studies teachers trying to shovel into his head?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 29, 2017 04:04 PM (/qEW2)

251 It's a whole different animal because it's a comic book fight but I thought the first fight in Deadpool was very good. Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 29, 2017 08:58 PM The director that did John Wick is slated to do Deadpool 2.

Posted by: otho at July 29, 2017 04:05 PM (qGuLD)

252 Wait. How do you know Ace is a brunette!? Posted by: tbodie at July 29, 2017 08:59 PM have you ever seen a blonde ewok? QED

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 29, 2017 04:05 PM (KCxzN)

253 Fen, is it possible some jackass slipped your son some dope? We don't like to think so but there are people out there who would do that.

Posted by: Eromero at July 29, 2017 04:07 PM (zLDYs)

254 Action wise, I love me some Jackie Chan- "Armor of God 2: Operation Condor". Awesome fight scenes and funny as all get out. He plays a treasure hunter searching for Nazi gold in Africa. Excellent stuff. Prayers to you and your family Fenelon.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 29, 2017 04:07 PM (6n332)

255 So, here we are, The Horde, on a Saturday night movie thread having a great time. AND, we can also love & support one of our own in time of need. Fen, hang in there. You are one of the treasures of the HQ. God, I love this place. Seriously.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at July 29, 2017 04:09 PM (D5XRv)

256 *have you ever seen a blonde ewok? QED Posted by: AltonJackson at July 29, 2017 09:05 PM (KCxzN)* Oh. Yes. I see your point. *Hangs head in shame.*

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at July 29, 2017 04:11 PM (D5XRv)

257 The Church scene from Kingsman, Where every person becomes violent and start killing each other. Also it's a good movie and anti PC

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 29, 2017 04:12 PM (dKiJG)

258 Third best scene is in "Hobo with a Shotgun" when Rutger Hauer keeps the pimp from pimping and as the ho runs down the street we see the pimp's body fly out over the sidewalk from the Hobo's shotgun blast. Classic. Posted by: Hairyback Guy The ending fight scene with the lawnmower shield was pretty badass too.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 29, 2017 04:16 PM (SW6lL)

259 I remember an interview with Michael Caine about why he made some bad movies and his answer was Well I have a mortgage to pay. He was so good in Zulu.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 29, 2017 04:16 PM (dKiJG)

260 257 The Church scene from Kingsman, Where every person becomes violent and start killing each other. Also it's a good movie and anti PC Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 29, 2017 09:12 PM (dKiJG) Looks like the next one the bad guy (girl) might be an Amazon type executive. https://youtu.be/0fvqnGmr9S8

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2017 04:17 PM (cAnNx)

261 "Q.E.D." (sometimes written "QED") is an abbreviation for the Latin phrase "quod erat demonstrandum" ("that which was to be demonstrated"), a notation which is often placed at the end of a mathematical proof to indicate its completion. Several symbols are occasionally used as synonyms for Q.E.D. These include a filled square filled square (Unicode U+220E, as used in Mathematics Magazine and American Mathematical Monthly), a filled rectangle (Knuth 1997, pp. 3 and 39), or an empty square square . So, AltonJackson, you are hereby accused of committing math. At the HQ. On a Saturday night. How. Do. You. Plead?

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at July 29, 2017 04:17 PM (D5XRv)

262 Sorry, folks to disrupt your thread, but I am in heavy duty need of prayers for my son. Something is terribly wrong with him mentally / emotionally-and we don't have medical insurance. He just acted out in a way I haven't seen before. We have to figure out what we can do. I'm going to get off the thread now, so not to disrupt it anymore. Posted by: FenelonSpoke You will be in our prayers.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 29, 2017 04:18 PM (dKiJG)

263 There is a Jackie Chan movie coming out called The Foreigner

Not heard anything about it, but he does do good fight scenes.

https://youtu.be/33iuQu3UtjI

Posted by: Kindltot at July 29, 2017 04:18 PM (mkDpn)

264 Prayers up for FenelonFamily. That's gotta be scary.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at July 29, 2017 04:20 PM (66CWr)

265 action movies where grenades, claymore mines, RPGs, etc, all explode into huge roiling balls of orange flame and black smoke are unwatchable to me...

unless i'm drunk and can make snide comments.

IRL, there is little to no flash, at least in daylight, and just a puff of greyish smoke.

weapons that never have to be reloaded, barrels that don't over heat, actions that don't jam, etc, no to mention invincible vehicles?

yeah, F them too.

1 guess why.

Posted by: redc1c4 [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 29, 2017 04:20 PM (4CNRo)

266 1. Bond is jumped in the men's room but has rearview glasses to see the assassin closing in on him.  Craig as Bond in that one?

2. Arnold similarly get jumped in the men's room and slams a guys head down with force enough to break off the bottom half of the urinal.

3.  John Wayne and Forrest Tucker go at it in Sands of Iwo Jima after Wayne finds out Tucker's character goofed off during the invasion and got a guy killed and another severely wounded.  An officer happens by in his car, stops, and investigates the commotion.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 29, 2017 04:21 PM (JO9+V)

267 Also, I'm going to go on an OT rant about streaming. I've been watching the Under Armour All-American Game streaming on MLB.com and, well, it's an interrupt-ridden clusterf***. The commercial breaks where it would be telecast are one thing, but the page it's on reloads every few minutes in that obnoxious way too many modern sites do, stopping the stream for some stupid ad. So I have two layers of ads and have to un-mute and re-enlarge it repeatedly. Shorter: You suck, MLB.com, you suck.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at July 29, 2017 04:22 PM (66CWr)

268 1 guess why.
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 29, 2017 09:20 PM (4CNRo)


Because if you wanted magic weapons they better be rune inscribed swords, magic wands, and there better be dragons and trolls to kill.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 29, 2017 04:22 PM (mkDpn)

269 Looks like the next one the bad guy (girl) might be an Amazon type executive. https://youtu.be/0fvqnGmr9S8 Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2017 09:17 PM (cAnNx) I had zero expectations for Kingsman and since it was not talked about I was surprised that the Villian was an environmentalist I can't remember who they were making fun of as the villain but They nailed his lisp

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 29, 2017 04:22 PM (dKiJG)

270 I didn't really like Kingsmen. It seemed to take forever to get going. It also seemed unnecessarily coarse in places. (Sometimes coarse bothers me, sometimes not. Not sure I know the why of it in terms of what turns me off.)

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 29, 2017 04:23 PM (H5knJ)

271 I remember an interview with Michael Caine about why he made some bad movies and his answer was Well I have a mortgage to pay. He was so good in Zulu.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 29, 2017 09:16 PM (dKiJG)



Zulu also had great battle scenes - one could tell exactly what was going on and how close run a thing their defense was.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 29, 2017 04:23 PM (JO9+V)

272 weapons that never have to be reloaded, barrels that don't over heat, actions that don't jam, etc, no to mention invincible vehicles? yeah, F them too. 1 guess why. Posted by: redc1c4 at July 29, 2017 09:20 PM (4CNRo) You're a Cranky McCrankypants?

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 29, 2017 04:23 PM (0mRoj)

273 264 Prayers up for FenelonFamily. That's gotta be scary. Posted by: Brother Cavil at July 29, 2017 09:20 PM (66CWr) Ever raised teens ? They're high-functioning psychopaths. I got two.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2017 04:24 PM (fiGNd)

274 I think liberals try to hobble us by driving us nuts, via "kafkatrapping". They have a million different techniques to achieve this. You've got to "drop off the grid" as best as you can, to preserve sanity. I read Vic's blurbs, but I don't follow most of his links, because I know it would just make me angry.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 29, 2017 04:24 PM (/qEW2)

275 I had zero expectations for Kingsman and since it was not talked about I was surprised that the Villian was an environmentalist I can't remember who they were making fun of as the villain but They nailed his lisp Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 29, 2017 09:22 PM (dKiJG Tech giant. So Steve Jobs/Bill Gates type.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2017 04:24 PM (cAnNx)

276 I had zero expectations for Kingsman and since it was not talked about I was surprised that the Villian was an environmentalist I can't remember who they were making fun of as the villain but They nailed his lisp Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 29, 2017 09:22 PM (dKiJG) I could play Al Gore, but I'd have bulk up.

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at July 29, 2017 04:25 PM (AWYXL)

277 Steve, Patrick and maybe others mentioned Kingsman, and I'm watching it now for the second time. The action holds my interest, which is unusual these days. All too often the murky CGI spacefight/endless martial arts battle starts and my eyes wander back down to my iPad until something else happens. I've never much liked the Bond films, but I like Kingsman.

Posted by: stace at July 29, 2017 04:25 PM (cqZPN)

278 Tech giant. So Steve Jobs/Bill Gates type. Posted by: buzzion at July seriously, Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerberg

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 29, 2017 04:26 PM (0wem/)

279 265 - in a similar vein . . . That fake, metallic schwiiing! noise that swords and knives made when drawn drives me nuts. As does the use of "silencers" on guns in films.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 29, 2017 04:26 PM (H5knJ)

280 Tech giant. So Steve Jobs/Bill Gates type. Posted by: buzzion at July seriously, Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerberg Posted by: yankeefifth If he had a lisp, wouldn't that be Tim Cook?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 29, 2017 04:27 PM (SW6lL)

281 *I could play Al Gore, but I'd have bulk up. Posted by: Brian Dennehy at July 29, 2017 09:25 PM (AWYXL)* That is just funny.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at July 29, 2017 04:27 PM (D5XRv)

282 279 265 - in a similar vein . . . That fake, metallic schwiiing! noise that swords and knives made when drawn drives me nuts. As does the use of "silencers" on guns in films. Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 29, 2017 09:26 PM (H5knJ) Adding a cocking sound when someone draws a Glock.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 29, 2017 04:27 PM (0mRoj)

283 Apparently, a billboard appeared in Mexico City with Donald Trumpmade to look like one of the aliens from the Roddy Piper movie " They Live" (198

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at July 29, 2017 04:28 PM (e8kgV)

284 Adding a cocking sound when someone draws a Glock. Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry Worse: when people cock the hammer on a 1911.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 29, 2017 04:29 PM (SW6lL)

285 The final battle scene defending the homestead in Josey Wales, especially the repartee between Grandma Sarah and Lone Watie.


Grandma:  You know, we're sure gonna show them redskins somethin' tomorrow. No offense meant.


Lone Watie:  None taken.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 29, 2017 04:29 PM (JO9+V)

286 if you are going to have an action scene that lasts more than a few seconds, you cant have the same thing repeated endlessly. Imagine two little boys with toy swords just parrying little blows back and forth without ever changing. To make this statement and not go on to mention the endless light saber duels in the Star Wars prequels is movie critic malpractice

Posted by: V the K at July 29, 2017 04:29 PM (jn7FC)

287 162 Fight scenes, I'll have to mention the one in the movie name I use - the fight between John Wayne and Victor McLaughlin. Played for laughs for a lot of it including the old man getting off of his death bed to watch it but still a good one Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 29, 2017 08:15 PM Yes. Plus one of my brothers invented a drinking game where you take a shot when John Wayne lights a cigarette and every time he threw a cigarette away. Good times.

Posted by: NaughtyPine - public menace at July 29, 2017 04:30 PM (G8B7r)

288 I didn't really like Kingsmen. It seemed to take forever to get going. It also seemed unnecessarily coarse in places. (Sometimes coarse bothers me, sometimes not. Not sure I know the why of it in terms of what turns me off.) Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk As a moron, and as one who knows Millar's work, meh on the coarse. I agree wholeheartedly that too much time was wasted on the sub-Hogwarts origin-story.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 04:30 PM (6FqZa)

289 278 Tech giant. So Steve Jobs/Bill Gates type. Posted by: buzzion at July seriously, Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerberg Posted by: yankeefifth at July 29, 2017 09:26 PM (0wem/) Yeah but he was more mobile phone type. And as I said, the sequel looks like that bad guy might be more of the Jeff Bezos Amazon type.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2017 04:30 PM (cAnNx)

290 Muddy and boring.. ---------- This is about me, isn't it? Posted by: 2001 at July 29, 2017 07:25 PM (/ZEVC) Nope. Me.

Posted by: Hope Solo's Bunghole at July 29, 2017 04:30 PM (NyJwR)

291 I've never much liked the Bond films, but I like Kingsman. Posted by: stace at July 29, 2017 09:25 PM (cqZPN) The action scenes - again - were too long for me. Lots of guys at the shop liked it though. You know - I might just be friggin' ADD.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2017 04:30 PM (fiGNd)

292 Jackie Chan, I love all his movies. I even belong to his fan club at one time. Our family was having the worst time of our lives and me and my brother just happened to catch a Jackie Chan marathon on USA up all night. It was the first time we both smiled in a long time. Team America World Police. Karate vs Detroit Style.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 29, 2017 04:30 PM (dKiJG)

293 >>In fact, Bruce Willis has one of the best records of fun movies per the tbodie scorecard.


Hell, yes! Also Keanu Reeves.
Love the Die Hard movies, Speed, The Matrix.

Don't know if it's already been mentioned, but the French movie "District B13" is great fun, great action, with David Belle, the guy who invented Parkour in the lead role. Also liked it because it often zigs when you expect it to zag.

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at July 29, 2017 04:30 PM (NOIQH)

294 Yeah but he was more mobile phone type. And as I said, the sequel looks like that bad guy might be more of the Jeff Bezos Amazon type. Posted by: buzzion at July Oh, well, I literally only read the one comment I responded too.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 29, 2017 04:31 PM (0wem/)

295 This was about the most pretentious columns i've seen.....go crawl back in your 9th grade journalism class

Posted by: Karl at July 29, 2017 04:31 PM (fvf8x)

296 A lot of my favorite action scenes have been mentioned already. I have a weakness for the John Wick gun ballet type movies, so I do like John Woo-ish movies. The Replacement Killers (produced by Woo, directed by Antoine Fuqua, starring Yun-fat Chow) is one of my favorite movies.

Posted by: Gem at July 29, 2017 04:31 PM (uaHyk)

297 Not a movie, but the fight scenes in "Firefly" ring true, especially when Mal walks up and shoots a guy point bland. A lot like Kevin Costner is (brain fault) with Robert Duvall (Open Trail?) That was also the best gunfight scene ever. No drama. Slaughter.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 29, 2017 04:31 PM (w7U7L)

298 Fen- My stomach did a flip-flop when I read your request. I am so sorry that things with your son right now are so upsetting. As mentioned above, those of us who have raised teenagers know that many times events seem to be out of control. But when cool heads prevail, you can usually weather through them. I hope this is the case. I am praying for you and your loved ones.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 29, 2017 04:31 PM (2+gSO)

299 How about that ricochet sound?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 29, 2017 04:32 PM (IqV8l)

300 a billboard appeared in Mexico City with Donald Trumpmade to look like one of the aliens from the Roddy Piper movie " They Live" I know, and the stupid part is that the real "aliens" fucking up Mexican culture are elites like Carlos Slim and PRIstas like Enrique Penha Nieto.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 04:32 PM (6FqZa)

301 So, is there ever going to be a movie thread discussing porn?

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 29, 2017 04:33 PM (0wem/)

302 especially when Mal walks up and shoots a guy point blank When he does that, he's lampshading George Lucas. It became cool and original again when the Operative jumped back up from the floor and told him to his face, "I am of course wearing full body armor. I am not a moron."

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 04:34 PM (6FqZa)

303 297 Not a movie, but the fight scenes in "Firefly" ring true, especially when Mal walks up and shoots a guy point bland. Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 29, 2017 09:31 PM (w7U7L) I agree ... I like much of the action in Firefly. I also liked most of the action scenes in HEAT. But they got too long toward the end of the movie, at least for me.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2017 04:34 PM (fiGNd)

304 This was about the most pretentious columns i've seen.....go crawl back in your 9th grade journalism class Posted by: Karl at July 29, 2017 09:31 PM (fvf8x) (sticks new label on can of paint remover) "here, Karl, try this butthurt creme!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 29, 2017 04:35 PM (AWYXL)

305 yankeefifth : that would be every ONT ever.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 04:35 PM (6FqZa)

306 I thought The Mummy (Fraser version) did the action well.

Posted by: MAGA at July 29, 2017 04:35 PM (Tyk2V)

307 yankeefifth : that would be every ONT ever. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July heh

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 29, 2017 04:35 PM (0wem/)

308 So, is there ever going to be a movie thread discussing porn? Posted by: yankeefifth at July 29, 2017 09:33 PM (0wem/) Ummmmmm...No. You see one porn flick, you've seen them all.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 29, 2017 04:35 PM (5VlCp)

309 *types* Deletes* Not really sure what i intended to say.

Posted by: tbodie [/i] [/S] [/b] [/u] at July 29, 2017 04:36 PM (D5XRv)

310 "here, Karl, try this butthurt creme!" Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 29, 2017 09:35 PM (AWYXL) No-No-No ... ... as long as Karl sticks around, you and me can get away with saying just about anything. A Karl is handy.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2017 04:36 PM (fiGNd)

311 Ummmmmm...No. You see one porn flick, you've seen them all. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July Well, has anyone ever watched one all the way through?

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 29, 2017 04:36 PM (0wem/)

312 So, is there ever going to be a movie thread discussing porn? Posted by: yankeefifth Seconded. I'd really like to see TheJamesMadison break down the cinematography of Where The Boys Aren't 12 and compare its writing to Desperate Milfs 7.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 29, 2017 04:37 PM (SW6lL)

313 From Paris with Love, The Dinner with the guy's girlfriend and John Travolta blows the girlfriend's friend away after the phone call. That's another movie that should get more love. And Travolta is very good as a typical American.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 29, 2017 04:37 PM (dKiJG)

314 Ummmmmm...No. You see one porn flick, you've seen them all. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 29, 2017 09:35 PM (5VlCp) Talk about "cocking sounds"...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 29, 2017 04:37 PM (AWYXL)

315 Posted by: Karl at July 29, 2017 09:31 PM (fvf8x) Thank you for saying what needed to be said, fellow one-name commenter!

Posted by: Jake at July 29, 2017 04:37 PM (6FqZa)

316 Black Hawk Down - the defense of the downed helicopter and surviving pilot Durant by Shugart and Gordon.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 29, 2017 04:37 PM (JO9+V)

317 If I don't care about the characters, action sequences bore me. For example --- We have a running joke in my family about how Mama Margarita haaaaaates the Bourne movies. It seems that on every (rare) occasion when we are all going to the movies together, there's a Bourne movie playing and they all gang up and choose it --- Bourne Identity, Bourne Again, Bourne Wild, whatever. And I hate them because I do not CARE about the adolescent hero and his fatuous existential angst. I do not CARE if the "bad" guys get him. Hell, I positively WANT them to get him and put an end to it all. But there was one Bourne movie, the one with Jeremy Renner, that I actually liked. I understood the guy's motivation and was moved by his plight. So the action held my attention because I wanted him to win. I need CHARACTER interest or I fall asleep. Sometimes literally.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 29, 2017 04:37 PM (0jtPF)

318 129 Die Hard - Bruce Willis vs that really tall blond euro trash guy. Posted by: Puddleglum at July 29, 2017 08:00 PM (aELIg) That was the late, great ballet dancer Alexander Godunov. I loved that scene. Martial arts vs 'brawlin' Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 29, 2017 08:04 PM (xJa6I) The thing to remember about Bruce Willis at that time is that Die Hard was his first action movie. Before DH, he was the goofy cool slacker dude in Moonlighting. That's one of the things that made DH such a perfect action film. The McClane character was supposed to be the average guy everyman cop, in way over his head. And for that brief moment in movie history, Willis wasn't the on-screen badass that we see today, so he really fits the character.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 29, 2017 04:38 PM (iFZVz)

319 312 So, is there ever going to be a movie thread discussing porn? Posted by: yankeefifth Best porn movie ever ... ... the remake of The Devil in Miss Jones.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2017 04:38 PM (fiGNd)

320 The Replacement Killers was a good action film.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 29, 2017 04:38 PM (H5knJ)

321 And there was a brief mention of Alexander Godunov in Witness, but the action piece at the end with Danny Glover, et al, is very well-done.

Posted by: Gem at July 29, 2017 04:38 PM (uaHyk)

322 Seconded. I'd really like to see TheJamesMadison break down the cinematography of Where The Boys Aren't 12 and compare its writing to Desperate Milfs 7. Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July Well, he should let us know in advance which movies he is going to review so we would have a chance to watch them, a reason for watching them, and be able to discuss them from and informed position.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 29, 2017 04:38 PM (0wem/)

323 So, is there ever going to be a movie thread discussing porn? Posted by: yankeefifth He mentioned Kill Bill. That's foot porn.

Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at July 29, 2017 04:39 PM (/qEW2)

324 Watched a movie yesterday called "Taking Chance" with Kevin Bacon. I was pretty much crying the whole movie. About a Marine officer taking the remains of an enlisted Marine home to his family. Based on an actual event. If you love this country and our military it is worth seeing.

Posted by: lin-duh fell at July 29, 2017 04:39 PM (kufk0)

325 Speaking of butt hurt, my bruise is gone and I'm able to walk long distances again. Yay! Now if only the weekend storms over the mountains would quit . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 29, 2017 04:39 PM (6FqZa)

326 >>Was that Eastern Promises? >>Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 29, 2017 07:55 PM >>It was. Bloody good scene. A very underrated movie all around.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 29, 2017 04:40 PM (/tuJf)

327 He mentioned Kill Bill. That's foot porn. Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at July 29, 2017 09:39 PM (/qEW2) Oh boy ... you're telling me.

Posted by: Dick Morris at July 29, 2017 04:41 PM (fiGNd)

328 The action scenes - again - were too long for me. Lots of guys at the shop liked it though. You know - I might just be friggin' ADD. Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2017 09:30 PM (fiGNd) Yeah, I'm probably ADD, but for some reason I liked these scenes though. Not sure why. Except for the last fight, which was just on. I've kinda had it with the long climactic mano a mano that seems to be required by law now. Just shoot the villain and be done with it.

Posted by: stace at July 29, 2017 04:41 PM (cqZPN)

329 8:53

Posted by: timeguy at July 29, 2017 04:41 PM (yaabe)

330 The Replacement Killers was a good action film. Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk Mira Sorvino in that movie, mmmmmmm.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 29, 2017 04:41 PM (SW6lL)

331 Well, he should let us know in advance which movies he is going to review so we would have a chance to watch them, a reason for watching them, and be able to discuss them from and informed position. Posted by: yankeefifth at July 29, 2017 09:38 PM (0wem/) As they say in the stylebook, "Phrasing" is everything!

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at July 29, 2017 04:41 PM (gwPgz)

332 Well, has anyone ever watched one all the way through? Posted by: yankeefifth at July 29, 2017 09:36 PM (0wem/) Ummmmmm...No. What's the point....you know how they all end. What we need is a thread on porn movie soundtracks.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 29, 2017 04:41 PM (5VlCp)

333 I thought The Mummy (Fraser version) did the action well.
Posted by: MAGA at July 29, 2017 09:35 PM (Tyk2V)


Any movie that starts with the Tuareg tribesmen attacking and wiping out the French Foreign Legion and then ups the action and tension is doing something right. 

And they had a kick-ass armorer and technical crew.  And Patricia Velazquez as Ank Su Namun was 30 miles of bad road.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 29, 2017 04:41 PM (mkDpn)

334 Best action movie? Raging Bull.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 29, 2017 04:42 PM (/qEW2)

335 I like Matt Damon's Bourne triliogy films quite a bit. The politics of them doesn't bother me. (We may be the good guys, but I've no doubt the human institutions cloaked in secrecy get up to some sinister shit. And I never consider the real-world politics of actors when deciding what to see.)

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 29, 2017 04:42 PM (H5knJ)

336 given hollywood's penchant for franchises and the success of "dunkirk", i think it's a safe bet to anticipate... "dunkirk II: the return" the young james bond (idris elba) and his lover miss moneypenny (amy shumer) go back across the channel to rescue the last platoon, which has the key to the enigma machine. furious, hitler (played in a daring turn by alec baldwin as a blonde fuhrer) sends the luftwaffe after them, but they steal a u-boat and sail back to the white cliffs of dover.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 29, 2017 04:42 PM (WTSFk)

337 Posted by: lin-duh fell at July 29, 2017 09:39 PM (kufk0) Yes, 'Taking Chance' was excellent!

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at July 29, 2017 04:43 PM (gwPgz)

338 303 297 Not a movie, but the fight scenes in "Firefly" ring true, especially when Mal walks up and shoots a guy point bland. Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 29, 2017 09:31 PM (w7U7L) I agree ... I like much of the action in Firefly. I also liked most of the action scenes in HEAT. But they got too long toward the end of the movie, at least for me. Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2017 09:34 PM (fiGNd) The moment I knew that I would love Firefly forever and ever was when Mal kicked the guy into the engine.

Posted by: Gem at July 29, 2017 04:43 PM (uaHyk)

339 324 Watched a movie yesterday called "Taking Chance" with Kevin Bacon. I was pretty much crying the whole movie. About a Marine officer taking the remains of an enlisted Marine home to his family. Based on an actual event. If you love this country and our military it is worth seeing. Posted by: lin-duh fell at July 29, 2017 09:39 PM (kufk0) Based on a blog post by the Marine Major. If you can find it, read the story.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 29, 2017 04:43 PM (17QyB)

340 Ummmmmm...No. What's the point....you know how they all end. What we need is a thread on porn movie soundtracks. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 29, 2017 09:41 PM (5VlCp) That's a trick question. There is only one pr0n movie sound track: "da-rooong, da-rooong, da-rooong".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 29, 2017 04:43 PM (AWYXL)

341 324 Watched a movie yesterday called "Taking Chance" with Kevin Bacon. I was pretty much crying the whole movie. About a Marine officer taking the remains of an enlisted Marine home to his family. Based on an actual event. If you love this country and our military it is worth seeing. Posted by: lin-duh fell at July 29, 2017 09:39 PM (kufk0) This movie was based on a true story, it was an article written by the Lt, Col that transported the coffin. very moving film.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 29, 2017 04:44 PM (dKiJG)

342 Ip Man was stupendous in this regard. Ip Man 2 was also great.

Posted by: Johnny at July 29, 2017 04:44 PM (5R/Xa)

343 Yeah, I'm probably ADD, but for some reason I liked these scenes though. Posted by: stace at July 29, 2017 09:41 PM (cqZPN) Most people did. It's just something I don't get - or I'm too picky - or something. I like the action in Tombstone - which ain't no cinematic classic. Love the action in Outlaw Josie Wales. My favorite movie ever has very little action - Cool Hand Luke.

Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2017 04:44 PM (fiGNd)

344 There was only one fight scene in a movie that I thought was legit and I cannot remember the name of it. It was a western. I can't remember who was in it either. Ha! Two men go outside for their brawl. They swing at each other, rarely get a good hit, and both are out of breath, sweating, and huffing and buffing until they collapse on the ground. It was over in under a minute. That's realism.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 29, 2017 04:45 PM (2+gSO)

345 someone with contact info remind Fenlon that there are numerous hotlines, for dealing with mental health emergencies, and that many of them are either free or need based.

i can't recommend anything in particular, not knowing more about the patient, or where they are located...

valid e-mail in link if someone wants to follow up w/ me

Posted by: redc1c4 [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 29, 2017 04:45 PM (4CNRo)

346 >>>My favorite movie ever has very little action - Cool Hand Luke. I CAN EAT 50 EGGS!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 29, 2017 04:47 PM (RrhD2)

347 ONT is go.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 29, 2017 04:48 PM (SW6lL)

348 ONT up

Posted by: GOULD [/I] [/b] [/s] [/u] at July 29, 2017 04:48 PM (X02AV)

349 Jake LaMotta is the classic example of "toxic masculinity".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 29, 2017 04:49 PM (/qEW2)

350 Prayers up for Fenelon and family.

Posted by: Taqyia2Me - Deplorubus Unum at July 29, 2017 04:50 PM (Ftuf+)

351 286 if you are going to have an action scene that lasts more than a few seconds, you cant have the same thing repeated endlessly. Imagine two little boys with toy swords just parrying little blows back and forth without ever changing. To make this statement and not go on to mention the endless light saber duels in the Star Wars prequels is movie critic malpractice Posted by: V the K at July 29, 2017 09:29 PM (jn7FC) Watch the 3-way lightsaber duel with Obi Wan, Qui Gon and the tattooed guy in slow motion. At speed, it looks great, but there was something nagging at me about it. Darth Clawhammer spends about half of the fight turning his back to his opponents. At one point, he's fighting flatfooted, with his back to Obi Wan, twisting his body back and forth to deliver lightsaber strikes that have NO chance of connecting with his opponent.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 29, 2017 04:51 PM (iFZVz)

352 Agree with you on the Bourne movies...*snooze*

Die Hard was definitely a great move for Bruce Willis. Love the "Red"movies.

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at July 29, 2017 04:52 PM (NOIQH)

353 So, is there ever going to be a movie thread discussing porn?
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 29, 2017 09:33 PM (0wem/)
---
Yes...

one where teh Horde debates which Kay Parker movie is the best.


Posted by: redc1c4 [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 29, 2017 04:52 PM (4CNRo)

354 344 There was only one fight scene in a movie that I thought was legit and I cannot remember the name of it. It was a western. I can't remember who was in it either. Ha! Two men go outside for their brawl. They swing at each other, rarely get a good hit, and both are out of breath, sweating, and huffing and buffing until they collapse on the ground. It was over in under a minute. That's realism. Posted by: washrivergal at July 29, 2017 09:45 PM (2+gSO) The fight scene in They Live. Keith David and Roddy Piper only pulled punches on blows to the head.

Posted by: buzzion at July 29, 2017 04:52 PM (cAnNx)

355 >>> The Replacement Killers was a good action film. Fulltime Killer is a good one too.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 29, 2017 04:53 PM (RrhD2)

356 Here is what happens when a Kingsman meets Sterling Archer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KeAw9c4YoU

Posted by: Aaron at July 29, 2017 04:55 PM (6Qbul)

357 My favorite movie, Braveheart, had some great action scenes -- especially when the Irishman Stephen looks like he may be assassinating Wallace but then kills the actual assassin ("Sure didn't the Almighty send me to watch your back? I didn't like him anyway. He wasn't right in the head.").

Honorable mention for the scene where Longshanks defenestrates his son's gay over.

Posted by: ShainS [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 29, 2017 04:55 PM (ZcAbN)

358 I liked the bitch-slap fight scene in 'Changing Ryan's Privates' Starring Kaitlyn Jenner.

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at July 29, 2017 05:00 PM (yKB8T)

359 Praying for you and your son, Fen.

Posted by: Danube River Guide at July 29, 2017 05:03 PM (TSj7S)

360 My favorite movie ever has very little action - Cool Hand Luke. Posted by: ScoggDog at July 29, 2017 09:44 PM (fiGNd) One of my all time favorites. I have a thing for sweaty Paul Newman movies anyway, but Luke is the best. My son was shown it at one of our friends' house and it grabbed him too.

Posted by: stace at July 29, 2017 05:23 PM (cqZPN)

361 The Void is now on Netflix.  It's fantastic.

Posted by: Dr.Mr.Badman at July 29, 2017 05:54 PM (6DJf8)

362 can we archive these posts? searchable posts anytime soon? these posts are the absolute best 'off topic' posts here at moron central. superb.

Posted by: luigi'sindexfinger at July 29, 2017 06:35 PM (gRAC4)

363 i thought Love in the Afternoon was the Gary Cooper/ Audrey Hepburn movie, turns out its current French flick. Posted by: kallisto at July 29, 2017 08:05 PM (g+Dix) **** Me too. And I thought The Milky Way was the 1936 Harold Lloyd movie! I've watched WAY too many movies for my own good. . .

Posted by: DynamiteDan at July 29, 2017 06:40 PM (jROJv)

364 Oh, and prayers already up for you and your family, Fenolon.

Posted by: DynamiteDan at July 29, 2017 06:41 PM (jROJv)

365 If there's any Star Wars fight seen that threw me out of the film it's not so much the one between Yoda and the Emperor as the one between Anakin and Obi-Wan. Both were drawn out far too long, but especially Anakin and Obi-Wan's. I forgave the Yoda/Palpatine one because something different was always happening, but you can only watch two people slapping each other's lightsabres away for so long before it gets thoroughly boring. The other thing which broke my suspension of disbelief is that Mace Windu could come within a hair of killing Palpatine whereas Yoda - allegedly the uber-Jedi - so convincingly fails. Arguably Palpatine is just leading him on so that he can tempt Anakin into switching sides, but having your own Force Lightning turned against you to the point where it transforms you into a wizened horror cannot be pleasant.

Posted by: perturbed at July 30, 2017 05:20 AM (oFawO)

366 I thought the Skyfall scene was fairly clear.  The sniper stays on the left side most of the time.

Posted by: goodluckduck at July 30, 2017 12:32 PM (V8zw+)

367 It would be interesting to discuss vehicle action scenes, like car chases or dogfights.

My favorite chase is the Road Warrior finale.

If I remember correctly, Top Gun struggled in showing the dog fights in an understandable manner.

Hal Needham's invention of a camera car helped move car chases out of the car.

Posted by: goodluckduck at July 30, 2017 12:43 PM (V8zw+)

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