August 31, 2014

Saturday Car Thread 08/31/14 - [Niedermeyer's Dead Horse & KBDaBear]
— Open Blogger

Welcome to the Sunday edition of the Saturday Car Thread.

I blame Comcast.


The Brooklyn Bridge, under construction.



I don't see any handrails there.


Co-blogger, RD Brewer, sends along this terrific article from Supercompressor which ranks all of the Bond cars:

Sure, you know all about James Bond's enduring affinity for Aston Martins and Lotuses that are just as lovely under water as they are on the road. And if you're a hardcore aficionado, you likely know that 007's first cars were actually old Bentleys, back in the days before Sean Connery gave a face to MI6's top man.

It should go without saying that a scientific ranking of all of Bond's cars is absolutely impossibl -- and besides that, it's boring -- so what follows is a thoroughly subjective list of every significant car that Bond drove, rode in, chased, or was chased by.

And, as all our rankings tend to be on this site, it is correct.

Smokin'!

Teen takes once-in-a-lifetime test ride in Lamborghini. Sad.


"Excessive speed" is suspected as a factor in the crash.


Iowahawk goes to a doozy of a car show



Autoguide.com's Under $30,000 Performance Car Shootout: Part I

Be sure to scroll down the page to find the links to Part II (test track) and Part III (the winner is!)


Dinesh D'Souza reminds us of this not-so-gentle guide for how to handle an encounter with the police: Keep your hands on the wheel. (NSFW warning for coarse language)


Take it away, KBDB:


1940 Ford Coupe: Prehistoric Muscle Car: The '40 Coupe was a huge hit with car buyers coming out of The Depression and its popularity with hot rodders and dirt track racers lasted for decades. But it was its popularity with the moonshiners of Appalachia that created a whole new class of motor racing that's with us today known as NASCAR.

Sturdy, simple, and powerful for the early 40's, the '40 Coupe was powered by a 221 c.i. Flathead V8 that put out 100 hp but was easily upgraded by gearheads of the time. It was the perfect car for moonshiners due to its unassuming appearance of a traveling salesman's sedan, the large numbers of them on roads, its power and its huge trunk. With stiffened suspension, souped up engines and driven by talented steel nerved drivers, it was still widely used by the runners well into the 50's with the more powerful powerplants Ford was putting out.

It wasn't long before the competitive nature of the drivers led them to hold races on primitive dirt tracks to decide who was the fastest and the best. Before long they were holding regular races for paying spectators and the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing was established in 1947.

The '40 Coupe remained a staple of 50's and 60's hot rodders, today it's still a holy grail for customizers and collectors. In dirt track racing, the first Modified Class of dirt track stock cars were mostly Ford Coupes from the 1937-1940 period.


Rumor has it that Vic and irongrandpa bought this brand new with their first retirement check.


Ranking for States for Driver Freedom and Which Ones Treat Us as Enemies of The People: Not surprising that Washington DC and New York State rank the worst, nor does New Jersey's ranking at 4th worst surprise me as a native of that state. If you live and drive in NJ and have never gotten a ticket, odds are pretty strong that you've ridden a bus the entire time you were living there. Nazi hunters should have raided the NJ DMV, I'm pretty sure they would have gotten as big a haul as they found in Buenos Aires. Then there's the NJ State Troopers who I swore outnumbered civilian cars on the highways when quota time rolled around. Do you think California has tough emissions standards? New Jersey requires emissions checks yearly along with a full vehicle inspection whereas California requires smog checks every other year and no other inspection requirements. Throw in pavement surfaces that look like they were hit by heavy artillery, poorly painted lane divider lines, confusing and poor road signs, and road designs that haven't been updated since the time of the Model T. Of course they have those tributes to road engineering idiocy called jughandles that some engineer thought was a better idea for a left hand turn than a turning lane standard on normal 4 lane roads.


New Jersey: Driving Isn't a Privilege, It's a Miracle


Is Fuel Cell Generation the Auto Technology of the Future? This is for the Science-y loving Morons who have an understanding of the challenges in developing the cars that we'll be driving (if we're allowed by our Betters in The Government) in the middle to latter part of the 21st century. Ever oppressive emissions and fuel efficiency standards along with the natural evolution of technology are numbering the days of the internal combustion engine. Hybrids like the Synergy drive Priuses are compromises, the Volt uses the engine to charge the batteries for electric motors, which is basically the same technology used 80 years ago by diesel-electric locomotives. Electric cars still haven't solved the problem of batteries that need to recharge for hours from the grid and have a nasty tendency to spontaneously combust.

Fuel Cell generation if feasible for inexpensive mass production would eliminate the need to recharge from the grid, making the car as ready to go as an engine powered vehicle. What the fuel cells are supposed to do is process hydrogen to create electricity onboard to power the electric motors. There are some large obstacles at this time that keep the hydrogen cells years away, but I'm not nearly knowledgeable enough to know what those barriers are.

A few years back, James May of Top Gear test drove one being developed by GM's research lab in Germany.

Honda and Hyundai are betting heavily on hydrogen fuel cell tech, Honda revealing a FC concept at the LA Auto Show in 2013 and Hyundai bringing their concept this year to the Geneva Auto Show


Since NDH .. uh ..forgot (cough) to include one of my Compliance Pics from last week, here's one with a bit more fabric covering for your Labor Day enjoyment:


Please feel free to send any complaints or commendations to us at Twitter: Nied's Dead Horse and KBDaBear.

UPDATE: An earlier error, despite it saying right there in the tweet, that it's the Manhattan Bridge, I mistakenly identified it as the Brooklyn Bridge. Whatcha gonna do?

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1 I don't see any handrails there. Nor do you see the third member of that first group.

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2014 07:03 AM (FcR7P)

2 That car is pointy elbows on wheels.

I just drooled.  Again.

Posted by: TangoNine at August 31, 2014 07:11 AM (x3YFz)

3 When some thing on Vic's car gets stuck or squeaks he sprays it with WD-20

Posted by: tmitsss at August 31, 2014 07:12 AM (Tt6V6)

4 The elbows are facing away, what is she hiding?

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 07:12 AM (aTXUx)

5 Cool cars? Right now, modifieds are racing at Bristol on Fox Sports 1.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at August 31, 2014 07:14 AM (ZPrif)

6 That's not Vic's car, he would never have popped for the optional am radio.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 31, 2014 07:15 AM (ucDmr)

7 Modifieds are actually Nascar's oldest series. It's the northeast's big contribution to grassroots racing. There's two regional modifieds racing series -- the original in the northeast, and also a southern modifieds tour in the southeasts. A couple times a year they all race together at a big track like Bristol and get a little TV exposure. Never understood why modifieds never took off nationally, they're some cool looking cars.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at August 31, 2014 07:17 AM (ZPrif)

8 I'm intrigued by fuel cells, there is a lot of promise but there seem to be big barriers regarding the hydrogen processing. Honda and Nissan are betting big on it, and the Germans are betting so much on it that they aren't putting much into battery or hybrid tech. The Obama administration doesn't seem to think enough of it to subsidize research on it, they're putting all their money into cronies who go all out on the battery-electrics. They even cut subsidies in California for the hydrogen fuel Honda Clarity

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 07:19 AM (aTXUx)

9 Modifiespds are the best circle track racing there is. Pure excitement.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 31, 2014 07:19 AM (ucDmr)

10 Beware of those "once in a lifetime" opportunities to drive a Lambo.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 31, 2014 07:20 AM (xNsGR)

11 Cicero how true that be. Bet the kid never dreamed it would be his lifetime.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at August 31, 2014 07:22 AM (ucDmr)

12 Holy Shit, that kid must have been going Warp 9. Damn.

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2014 07:27 AM (MQEz6)

13 That pic is of the Manhattan Bridge. The Brooklyn bridge was completed ca 20 years before the date on the pic.

Posted by: Fox 2! at August 31, 2014 07:27 AM (cHwSy)

14 There is just something about a muscle car... a mustang... camaro...

they're what's right with this world.

Posted by: TangoNine at August 31, 2014 07:29 AM (Rvkj4)

15 13 That pic is of the Manhattan Bridge. The Brooklyn bridge was completed ca 20 years before the date on the pic. Posted by: Fox 2! at August 31, 2014 12:27 PM (cHwSy) Yo, hey Tony, what bridge is this?

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2014 07:29 AM (MQEz6)

16 The Brooklyn Bridge was completed in 1876. That is not the Brooklyn Bridge if it was under construction in 1907.

Posted by: Edgar Allen Schmoe at August 31, 2014 07:29 AM (OLFrt)

17 The owner of the Lamborghini was riding shotgun. The kid was supposed to report for Basic (don't remember which service/where) in October.

Posted by: Fox 2! at August 31, 2014 07:29 AM (cHwSy)

18 That Lamborghini test drive reminded me of the scene in Scent of a Woman were Al Pacino's blind Frank Slade takes a Ferrari out for a test drive and drives like a madman on the streets of New York

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 07:31 AM (aTXUx)

19 Oh... if your car runs on electricity or is named Prius?  We're going to need you to turn in your man card (provided you didn't lose it to begin with).

Posted by: TangoNine at August 31, 2014 07:31 AM (Rvkj4)

20 That was a very strong closing argument. About something.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/s]akula51 at August 31, 2014 07:31 AM (X6zQy)

21 When I was young I used to go with friends to the Orange County Fairgrounds in Middletown NY to watch the Modifieds race there. Good times

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 07:34 AM (aTXUx)

22 Apparently MA drivers are the worst drivers.
Eh, they're predictable in their aggressive driving, so once you learn to drive like a local it's no big deal. What I can't stand are super-hesitant drivers, or the ones who try to do you a favor by ceding the right of way when they have it. Unpredicatablity is just as bad.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2014 07:36 AM (D/504)

23

Kid in that Lambo, and the 9 y/o girl with the Uzi, have something in common.

 

 

Over-confident "instructors" putting very dangerous instruments into the hands of untrained neophytes.

 

 

Deadly, costly, tragic errors, both.  Sad, indeed.

 

 

 

Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 31, 2014 07:36 AM (vvk2F)

24 Until there is a nationwide distribution system for Hydrogen (Think Hindenburg because the pussies sure will) with its incumbent pipeline distribution system and just sit back and watch the ecoweenies become apocalyptic with hate.

Fedco can mandate whatever the hell it wants to but the laws of science clearly show that there is still more energy in a gallon of petroleum distillates than there is in a gallon of water and no where do I see any signs of 'Peak Oil' having been reached.

Posted by: Gmac- Pondering...something involving rope and a tree at August 31, 2014 07:37 AM (baiNQ)

25 Good elbows.


Would hit again.



Posted by: EC at August 31, 2014 07:37 AM (doBIb)

26 Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 12:19 PM

One of the major manufacturers invited me to drive an early prototype hydrogen vehicle several years ago. Though I had some idea what to expect, I was a bit disappointed: in essence, it's an electric car with onboard charging.

One of the gimmicks -- which I believe that company still uses -- was a huge-ass capacitor that stores extra juice and functions like a "supercharger" when the driver wants to give the thing some leg.

A neat car, basically, but costs are gonna have to come way-the-hell down to make them even remotely practical.

Oh, and the company had a "fueling station" for us to see. It was solar-powered, though that limited it to roughly one car's-worth of hydrogen per day. And more required electricity. This is one area in which major improvements have come -- home hydrogen units are coming on line, and, in time, you'll be able to fill your car's tank and your dirigible with ease.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 31, 2014 07:38 AM (dDzOj)

27 Sunday is Take your Mighty-Fine Classic Car For a Spin Day. Saw a very yummy GTO last week, a perfect 65 Mustang the week before. Also saw an old couple driving around in some old boat from the 70's. That thing could pull a freight train no sweat. They did nothing to keep the car looking or running nice, but you could could just tell that car was their beloved.

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2014 07:38 AM (MQEz6)

28 I just come here for the elbows.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2014 07:38 AM (mx5oN)

29 Love the yellow Izetta on page 2 of Iowahawk's photos. I had a friend in high school who had one he drove to school. Always smelled of gasoline fumes whenever you got in. Quite un-nerving....

Posted by: Buddha at August 31, 2014 07:40 AM (1byP6)

30 22 Apparently MA drivers are the worst drivers. Eh, they're predictable in their aggressive driving, so once you learn to drive like a local it's no big deal. What I can't stand are super-hesitant drivers, or the ones who try to do you a favor by ceding the right of way when they have it. Unpredicatablity is just as bad. Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2014 12:36 PM (D/504) Yeah, if you go into combat mode, it's no problem. MA driving is US Marines vs. Imperial Japanese Army.

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2014 07:41 AM (MQEz6)

31 29 The issue with fuel cells in cars is that the wattage generated is too low. A fuel cell can be used to slowly recharge a set of lithium ion batteries, but not as fast as the car can burn the amp-hours stored in the battery. Since a fuel cell can't recharge the batts any faster than just plugging the car in overnight, why bother? If a fuel cell that creates watts as fast as an electric motor burns them is invented, then you may have something useful and cool. Posted by: Kristophr at August 31, 2014 12:39 PM (0zVEV) Power density rules all. Hydrocarbons plus oxygen yield carbon dioxide and water and a fuck ton of energy. You just can't top it.

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2014 07:45 AM (MQEz6)

32 she's way too hot for a Hooter's girl lately. She needs to be a single mom, at least one tat, child bearing stretch marks, and a bullet wound in her ass.

Posted by: Citation X driver at August 31, 2014 07:45 AM (Sqmjr)

33 Mine's getting to be sort of classic. 2001 Porsche Boxster S, black on black, low miles, driven only summers. Love that little bugger. Does Iowahawk say in advance where he is going to a weekend cars event? He picks the good ones.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at August 31, 2014 07:45 AM (tmFlQ)

34 If a fuel cell that creates watts as fast as an electric motor burns them is invented, then you may have something useful and cool.
Posted by: Kristophr at August 31, 2014 12:39 PM


From my experience, I'd be more inclined to see a future for fuel-cell cars -- which seems to mean hydrogen "fuel," though there are other possibilities -- and less for plug-in electrics and hybrids. There will be a long-lasting concern about the FC cars -- "ZOMG!! Hydrogen!!11!! Hindenberg !!eleventy!! -- but people felt the same with early gasoline engines.

But I'll stick with good ol' internal-combustion power. Preferably something with eight or more cylinders that revs real high and makes neat noises. When I see a '40 Ford with a hydrogen fuel cell in it, that may be the time to End It All.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 31, 2014 07:46 AM (dDzOj)

35 A cool thing about burning gasoline to power cars is you are using solar energy that was stored millions of years ago.

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2014 07:47 AM (MQEz6)

36 Unless researchers discover a way for an internal cumbustion engine to burn 100 percent or nearly 100 percent of fuel and leave nothing more than water vapor coming out of the pipe, its going to be legislated out of production. Kids nowadays don't have the passion for cars that we do, too many of them still get driven around by mom or they are moving into gentrified areas of cities where they can walk, bicycle, or take mass transit. They won't give a rat's ass about what powers a car as long as it doesn't emit gaia raping CO2 and hydrocarbons out of the tailpipe Electric motor cars don't have to be golf carts or weeniemobiles, they put out instant torque and can reach some pretty nice top end speeds. It's just not the same without the thrilling sound of a well tuned V8

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 07:47 AM (aTXUx)

37 If a fuel cell that creates watts as fast as an electric motor burns them is invented, then you may have something useful and cool.

Posted by: Kristophr at August 31, 2014 12:39 PM (0zVEV)

this is the part where I explain why batteries don't work.  It's physicsy and can simply be explained by there's only so much water you can get out of a rock.

But the hippies get mad.  Because, well, they ain't smart.  And they're hippies.

Posted by: TangoNine at August 31, 2014 07:48 AM (Rvkj4)

38 Car thread! Awesome bit of content guys, very well done. The red '71 SCJ Mustang in Diamonds are Forever was returned to Ford (I think) after the movie and subsequently sold. The restorer who ended up with the car many years later was intrigued by the super-low VIN, which led him to do a little research about what he had. What a nice surprise to learn that he owned a very special car.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 07:49 AM (8FyP4)

39 The hippies can pound their skulls against the wall of the energy equation until they go cross-eyed, but

it's an energy equation.  And there's no free lunch.

Posted by: TangoNine at August 31, 2014 07:50 AM (Rvkj4)

40 The problem with hydrogen is that the gas is so flammable and it has a nasty tendency to accumulate in areas until an explosive ignition.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 07:52 AM (8FyP4)

41 " Nazi hunters should have raided the NJ DMV, I'm pretty sure they would have gotten as big a haul as they found in Buenos Aires." Not to get all PC and shit, but seriously, comparing actual Nazis to incompetent lazy DMV employees is just dumb. Come on.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 31, 2014 07:53 AM (0LHZx)

42 Would like to horde source any advice on a new or used (30k mileage max) SUV or crossover. Want the Bluetooth/rear camera bells and whistles, leather seats, etc. currently have 2009 crv, no bells and whistles but a great car. Looking at 2012 RDX (but premium gas? Boo)', new Cherokee (mileage?) or maybe a new crv (boring?) any other recommendations or input? I am a girl what knows nothing about cars, cannot deal with car problems and am a MAsshole driver so driving in crappy weather and/or aggressively is common. I'll hang up and listen. Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Goldilocks at August 31, 2014 07:55 AM (jC3nE)

43 I applaud all the alternative energy initiatives out there. As long as the govt is funding it or worse, picking winners and losers, let's have as many options as possible. Some will be feasible, some won't. The market will decide what works and what doesn't.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 31, 2014 07:55 AM (0LHZx)

44 Last week a colleague told me electric cars are better because gasoline smells bad. Yeesh. This gal is very smart, a fine chemist, but like many of her generation and age the truly important factors in the matter just ain't clear to them. She knows the science, but is too immature and filled with NPR crap to break the spell. Smell, schmell. Burn that shit!

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2014 07:56 AM (MQEz6)

45 That '40 Ford is so tastefully done, just gorgeous.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 07:57 AM (8FyP4)

46 that should say govt is *NOT* funding

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 31, 2014 07:58 AM (0LHZx)

47 That '40 Ford is so tastefully done, just gorgeous. I have a friend who has one with under 40k and is the original owner...would love a chance to buy that one.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2014 07:59 AM (/EmSi)

48 When I was a wee lad the plan was to build a hydrogen charging station at CSULA but then someone realized that one spark would blow the whole campus off the hill it's sited on

Posted by: MAx at August 31, 2014 07:59 AM (b7yum)

49 I'll hang up and listen. Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Goldilocks at August 31, 2014 12:55 PM (jC3nE)

we have an '05 Acura MDX.  Fantastic vehicle. Has the backup camera, drives like a dream, responds great.  No complaints and drives today like the day we took her off the lot.

You could probably pick on up for a song nowdays.  Set us back I think $46K back in the day but she's 9 years old you I'm sure you could snatch one now for the high teens, low 20s.

Posted by: TangoNine at August 31, 2014 07:59 AM (Rvkj4)

50 Alternative energy research should be truthfully labelled as vanity, folly, money-laundering, and only good for future folks who have no choice but to use poorer energy sources. For us the right thing to do is burn those hydrocarbons and feed the carbon cycle.

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2014 08:00 AM (MQEz6)

51 Not to get all PC and shit, but seriously, comparing actual Nazis to incompetent lazy DMV employees is just dumb. Come on. Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 31, 2014 12:53 PM (0LHZx) You've never lived in NJ, have you ...

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 08:00 AM (aTXUx)

52 I'll hang up and listen. Thanks in advance. Posted by: Goldilocks _____________________________________ You can get the Mazda CX-5 with all the technology options for about $30K. It's considered the class standard bearer right now. The Ford Escape is nice too, but I prefer the Mazda.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 08:01 AM (8FyP4)

53 Until there is a nationwide distribution system for Hydrogen Where do we get the hydrogen to put into the distribution system?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 31, 2014 08:01 AM (W5DcG)

54 " Nazi hunters should have raided the NJ DMV, I'm pretty sure they would have gotten as big a haul as they found in Buenos Aires." ---- Weren't Nazis efficient?

Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 31, 2014 08:01 AM (QBm1P)

55 I applaud all the alternative energy initiatives out there. As long as the govt is funding it or worse, picking winners and losers, let's have as many options as possible. Some will be feasible, some won't. The market will decide what works and what doesn't.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 31, 2014 12:55 PM (0LHZx)

yer talking about a government that doesn't think water power is "renewable."

But they'll kill the fuck out of some birds with miles of spinning blades that are so inefficient that a 3 year old can say:  "That's inefficient."

Posted by: TangoNine at August 31, 2014 08:03 AM (Rvkj4)

56 Where do we get the hydrogen to put into the distribution system?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 31, 2014 01:01 PM (W5DcG)

/looks at the oceans

Posted by: TangoNine at August 31, 2014 08:04 AM (Rvkj4)

57 You've never lived in NJ, have you ... Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 01:00 PM (aTXUx) ______________ No I haven't. Irrelevant though since it's absurd to make the comparison. I've lived in a few states in my day and have dealt with the DMV in each of those states. I still to this day don't get the hatred people have towards the DMV. I've never had a bad experience. The worst experience, if you want to call it that, was waiting about 2 hours to exchange license plates one time. But it was kind of my fault since I went on a Saturday at about 11am, basically the absolute worst time one can go to the DMV in terms of wait times, a weekend AND mid day. I learned my lesson quickly and have never gone back to a DMV office on the weekend or during lunch time.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 31, 2014 08:04 AM (0LHZx)

58 Weren't Nazis efficient? Posted by: All Hail Eris _______________________________________ You think the DMV could get the trains running on time?

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 08:05 AM (8FyP4)

59 I am waiting for my Cold Fusion Automobile.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, as Voiced by Brian Dennehy at August 31, 2014 08:05 AM (jucos)

60 Countrysquire, thanks. Will check out the Mazda

Posted by: Goldilocks at August 31, 2014 08:05 AM (jC3nE)

61 Soon moving out near Boulder, CO, land of Toyota Pius drivers with their Obama/Biden blue stickers carefully preserved on their bumpers. What is the most annoying bumper sticker I can put on my vehicles? George W. Obama?

Posted by: the littl shyning man at August 31, 2014 08:06 AM (tmFlQ)

62 Thanks for the input on the science-y stuff as far as hydrogen cells go. As I said I'm not that knowledgeable as to its limitations right now, it seems that the big barriers are hydrogen storage and wattage generation for the batteries Diesel electric locomotives have huge engines for the generators and those things are hungrier than AtC's portable home generator.

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 08:06 AM (aTXUx)

63 61 Countrysquire, thanks. Will check out the Mazda Posted by: Goldilocks __________________________________________ You can read up on it at caranddriver.com where it's won both comparison tests that it's been in.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 08:07 AM (8FyP4)

64 one spark would blow the whole campus off the hill it's sited on

Posted by: MAx at August 31, 2014 12:59 PM (b7yum)

And....?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 31, 2014 08:08 AM (Zu3d9)

65 car bird behavior Q. My mechanic had to replace the $$ air filter on my F350 diesel p/u again because another bird had built a nest in the intake and fouled it. Is there something basic I could do to keep birds out? Wire some mech over the opening or something like that? Garaging is not an option and the truck often sits for 2 weeks between drives.

Posted by: PaleRider at August 31, 2014 08:10 AM (Zo60C)

66 What is the most annoying bumper sticker I can put on my vehicles?

George W. Obama?

Posted by: the littl shyning man at August 31, 2014 01:06 PM (tmFlQ)

Ranger Up's COEXIST sticker.
http://www.rangerup.com/co.html


Posted by: TangoNine at August 31, 2014 08:10 AM (Rvkj4)

67 DMVs should not exist. Everything they do can be done through private businesses. And it won't hurt public safety one bit.

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2014 08:13 AM (MQEz6)

68
  Time for the familiar refrain.

   Today's autos are unquestionably techno marvels. They are reliable on a grand scale.

  BUT they have all the aesthetic appeal of a rotted tree stump.

  They're transportation modules, nothing else.  All of them look and perform the same--a socialist's dream car.

   That dumb old flathead Ford coupe exudes more honest charm than a freighter full of Honda, and y'all know it.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 31, 2014 08:14 AM (jeCnD)

69 >>What is the most annoying bumper sticker I can put on my vehicles?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mf6otuc

Or this one - not political but my contrarian son liked it when we saw it recently:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/krr7mr8

Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2014 08:15 AM (D/504)

70 Is there something basic I could do to keep birds out? Throw a cat under the hood.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 31, 2014 08:15 AM (mx5oN)

71 69 Time for the familiar refrain. Today's autos are unquestionably techno marvels. They are reliable on a grand scale. BUT they have all the aesthetic appeal of a rotted tree stump. They're transportation modules, nothing else. All of them look and perform the same--a socialist's dream car. That dumb old flathead Ford coupe exudes more honest charm than a freighter full of Honda, and y'all know it. Posted by: irongrampa at August 31, 2014 01:14 PM (jeCnD) Yup. You can thank Federal Empire Fuel Efficiency Standards for that.

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2014 08:16 AM (MQEz6)

72 I hate that the hippies have taken over the prius brand, I had one bought in 2002 when most cars were low MPG and I wasn't putting any extra money is Saudi hands. It was a nice enough drive that my folks bought one when their Volvo died. Back in the day they were more of a gadget lovers car and they are still a decent drive. Plus Ear Leader has no love for the Toyota company.

Posted by: PaleRider at August 31, 2014 08:17 AM (Zo60C)

73 What is the most annoying bumper sticker I can put on my vehicles? Posted by: the littl shyning man at August 31, 2014 01:06 PM (tmFlQ) I have Calvin pissing on a hammer & sickle. You'd be amazed how many people it pisses off, and they can't explain why they're pissed.

Posted by: Hullbreach in the Funboat at August 31, 2014 08:17 AM (wsYNY)

74 Yeah, bullshit on that Brooklyn Bridge shit. 

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2014 08:18 AM (s2POs)

75 What is the most annoying bumper sticker I can put on my vehicles? George W. Obama? Posted by: the littl shyning man at August 31, 2014 01:06 PM (tmFlQ) --------- On Iowahawk's Earth Week Cruise-In, somebody made a COEXIST sticker out of gun decals (i.e., Mossberg cross for the T, etc)

Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 31, 2014 08:18 AM (QBm1P)

76 Somebody sold NDH a fake picture of the Brooklyn Bridge?

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2014 08:20 AM (MQEz6)

77 The Bond car list left off the flying AMC Matador. I am disappoint.

Posted by: fluffy at August 31, 2014 08:21 AM (Ua6T/)

78 That dumb old flathead Ford coupe exudes more honest charm than a freighter full of Honda, and y'all know it. Posted by: irongrampa at August 31, 2014 01:14 PM (jeCnD) How did it feel trading in that '37 Chrysler for the '40 Ford? Seriously though, agree with you on the lack of distinction in the styling of today's cars. I can tell you almost right away what make and year a car from the 50's through 80s was just by looking at a picture of it Now, I have to check the nameplate for the make, and you have to check tiny details for what year since they tend to keep the same sheetmetal for 5 to 10 years

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 08:21 AM (aTXUx)

79 Well I think I am going to the 2pm showing of Ghostbusters 30th Anniversary at the movie theatre. 

"Who ya gonna call?"  ECTO-1

http://youtu.be/Fe93CLbHjxQ

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2014 08:22 AM (whKdw)

80

65 Hahahahaha millions of schoolchildren will be left without their ultraleftist classroom leadership. CSULA is the biggest teacher training institution in the state.

Time to reconsider

Posted by: MAx at August 31, 2014 08:22 AM (b7yum)

81 Iowahawk's Earth Week Cruise-In
One of the best features on the whole internet.

Posted by: fluffy at August 31, 2014 08:22 AM (Ua6T/)

82 That dumb old flathead Ford coupe exudes more honest charm than a freighter full of Honda, and y'all know it. Posted by: irongrampa at August 31, 2014 01:14 PM

Yer right, gramps, but I'd be just as happy if the yoots stick to their Prii and similar depressing Transportation Units.

Every time I set sights on a '58 Chevy or Nash Rambler or Model A Ford, some damn hipster beats me to it with a bigger check. Bastiges.

It's bad enough that most of the old coots like me seem to have more loot to spread around on neat wheels.

When I was in my late teens, I was trying to decide between a 21-window VW Bus ($995) or a '56 Austin-Healey ($895) to replace my $50 Hillman Minx. They were both in great shape, but seemed overpriced so I looked elsewhere and settled for what I had. Jeebus, I was an idiot.


Posted by: MrScribbler at August 31, 2014 08:23 AM (dDzOj)

83
   Spent 40+ years being the friendly person who fixed your car right the FIRST time, it's been a real great journey.

   I've seen the advent of radial tires, electronic fuel injection, anti-lock brakes and computer control.

   Now what I see in many cars is hi-tech for tech's sake. AKA a huge expense for the customer when it breaks.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 31, 2014 08:29 AM (jeCnD)

84

Here's a lovely shirt you can wear about town: http://tinyurl.com/p6vco44

Most people won't get it and the ones that do will just give you a knowing nod

Posted by: MAx at August 31, 2014 08:29 AM (b7yum)

85 Speaking of Modifieds back in my youth, a local garage built a Modified to race at Middletown and Nazareth, decided to use a 392 Hemi. Everyone said he was nuts, use a 396 Chevy. Hemis are great for quarter mile drag racing, but on a quarter mile dirt track oval not so much. The Hemi made it so nose heavy that it was like steering a brick and he ended up mashing it into the wall.

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 08:29 AM (aTXUx)

86 My dream classic car: an '89 Vixen RV. Saw one on the road and it blew my mind, very cool.

Posted by: Hullbreach in the Funboat at August 31, 2014 08:29 AM (wsYNY)

87 The Hemi made it so nose heavy that it was like steering a brick and he ended up mashing it into the wall. Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 01:29 PM

Circa 1962, there was a guy in SoCal who built a sports car for road racing with a Hemi motor driving the front wheels. He used a Citroen transaxle.

More than 300 horses going through a gearbox designed for (maybe) 75 hp. Yeah. Works for me.

About the same time, another guy yanked the Norton motorcycle engine out of his little race car and replaced it with a 283 Chevy. That one worked, and pretty well. When it wasn't crashing.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 31, 2014 08:34 AM (dDzOj)

88 More racing. Nascar Trucks about to race in Canada at Canadian Tire Motorsport Park. Only road race on the schedule for the trucks. Good shot for German Quiroga, a Mexican driver, to get his first win. Quiroga won Nascar Mexico (the top series in Mexico) several times before moving to the US to try and make it in the big leagues. Nascar is gung-ho to find a Mexican driver they can turn into a star. Quiroga probably is a bit too old at 34 to get a big push. There are younger up and coming Mexican drivers like Daniel Suarez already passing him. Suarez is only 22 and sponsors and team owners prefer a young driver, easier to market and a longer time frame to get a return on your investment. Suarez got a ride with Joe Gibbs Racing, probably the 2nd best race team in Nascar after Hendricks. Suarez will race Nationwide next year. Nationwide is the #2 series, Trucks is #3, Sprint Cup is #1. Below Trucks are the regional development series, including Nascar Mexico, Nascar Canada, and the Euroseries in Europe.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at August 31, 2014 08:38 AM (ZPrif)

89 Now what I see in many cars is hi-tech for tech's sake. AKA a huge expense for the customer when it breaks. Posted by: irongrampa at August 31, 2014 01:29 PM (jeCnD) I used to be able to fix my own cars when I was young. Now I look under the hood and it's like I have to be a NASA engineer. Some have so many hoses, wires, covers, and ducts that I have to look from underneath to see if there's an engine under all that Can you still do a diagnostic when the Check Engine light comes on to see what's causing the problem? On my Firebird you could use a jump wire between two ports with the engine off and the ignition switch on, and by the number of times the light blinked you could reference it in a Chilton's manual to identify the culprit

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 08:39 AM (aTXUx)

90 >> the ones who try to do you a favor by ceding the right of way when they have it. This is my world. There's a ton of growth around here and not enough roads. People are polite to a fault about letting people in from driveways and such. There's an imaginary stop sign near here. I know that it's a 2-way stop, but it's in between two 4-way stops and people--the ones with the right-of-way--are always stopping. I sit at the actual, visible stop sign and refuse to go until they do. I'm just waiting for one of them to make a left when there's an on-coming car that they think will stop.

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 31, 2014 08:39 AM (SUKHu)

91 That dumb old flathead Ford coupe exudes more honest charm than a freighter full of Honda, and y'all know it. Posted by: irongrampa ____________________________________________ Yep, could not agree more. None of my old cars can hold a candle to our new ones in terms of reliability, comfort, safety, and efficiency. But they all have their own distinctive character, something the new ones simply don't have.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 08:41 AM (8FyP4)

92
    My muscle car was a brand new 68 RoadRunner with 8 miles on the odometer. $2645 cash.

   It came with the 335 horse 383, 4-speed trans and a 3.73 open rear end.  No carpet, rubber floor mats and THE accessory was a day-night mirror.

   Absolutely loved the thing. And like thousands of others, still regret selling it.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 31, 2014 08:41 AM (jeCnD)

93 Can you still do a diagnostic when the Check Engine light comes on to see what's causing the problem? On my Firebird you could use a jump wire between two ports with the engine off and the ignition switch on, and by the number of times the light blinked you could reference it in a Chilton's manual to identify the culprit Posted by: kbdabear ____________________________________________ You can buy a cheap code scanner for $40 that will give you the codes on most any OBD-II car (1996 & newer). They can be handy diagnostic tools, but there are many things that take a multi-thousand dollar scanner/programmer that no home mechanic is going to have.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 08:44 AM (8FyP4)

94   @ 90

    I still have my Snapon 2500 diagnostic with the appropriate cartridges.

   In the early days, diagnosing was a nightmare, because NOBODY knew how to access the codes or what they meant if you could retrieve them.

   Lotta schooling at the dealership, just about all that stuff was proprietary then.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 31, 2014 08:45 AM (jeCnD)

95 At an intersection with a stop sign and a yield sign, who has the right of way?

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 31, 2014 08:47 AM (SUKHu)

96 The '40 Ford coupe design is just damn near perfect in my eyes. Much better than the 6" longer and ungainly '41 that replaced it.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 08:47 AM (8FyP4)

97

95 Ah the brick. Still the best to learn on. Use mine all the time. Real cheap on ebay too. The Vantage as well.

 

Posted by: MAx at August 31, 2014 08:48 AM (b7yum)

98 96 Too many variables such as who got there first and who's on the right

Posted by: MAx at August 31, 2014 08:49 AM (b7yum)

99 Temporary footpaths on Manhattan Bridge Why is that axe laying there?

Posted by: Theodore Rex at August 31, 2014 08:51 AM (KwSAv)

100 OBD reader as used at AutoZone by their workers will spit out error codes.  Then they go look it up.  On the Tacoma, the Check Engine code it read pointed to four possible problems.  Cheapest being an improperly secured gas cap.

So replaced the gas cap.  Now the Check Engine light comes on when the fuel gauge reads 7/8ths full.  With the original gas cap it came on when the needle reached 3/8ths of a tank.  I really hope its not a back O2 sensor or such.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2014 08:53 AM (whKdw)

101 The '40 Ford had the same front end on the sedans, pickups, panel trucks, and woody station wagons as the coupe. IMO all were the coolest looking pre-war cars ever. Back then I believed they used acrylic lacquer for paint so with a little buffing you could restore the finish. They stopped when enamel was the preferred paint but the bodies didn't last like the old Fords did. It was a bit of an inverse, the original Flatheads didn't last long before needing an overhaul or the block cracked due to bad coolant flow. By the 60s, the engine lasted to 100,000 miles but the body was gone if you lived outside of the Sunbelt states, and even then the sun ripped the paint off the car inside of two years.

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 08:54 AM (aTXUx)

102 So replaced the gas cap. Now the Check Engine light comes on when the fuel gauge reads 7/8ths full. With the original gas cap it came on when the needle reached 3/8ths of a tank. I really hope its not a back O2 sensor or such. Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) _____________________________________________ Are you getting a code on the evaporative emission system?

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 08:55 AM (8FyP4)

103 Hydrogen cells just don't seem feasible. Something about the laws of the conservation of energy. Hydrogen does not occur naturally on this planet, it has to be extracted from water. How much energy is required to extract hydrogen from water (two parts H and one part O) and then how much energy do you get in return? Also, a hydrogen leak and and an open flame or spark could seriously ruin your day. Maybe T9 could explain it better.

Posted by: lfw - 26 days to retirement at August 31, 2014 08:55 AM (vVSOO)

104 The '40 Ford had the same front end on the sedans, pickups, panel trucks, and woody station wagons as the coupe. __________________________________________ You're really making me wish my '41 was a '40...dammit.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 08:57 AM (8FyP4)

105 Teen takes once-in-a-lifetime test ride in Lamborghini. Sad. Years ago, I was at the Honda shop picking up some repair parts with my then teenaged son and started looking at one of the 'SuperBikes' they had in stock. The salesman came over and the first question he asked was whether I was considering buying it for the boy. He said that if I was, I needed to go elsewhere because they wouldn't sell it to me. He said that if you give a teenager a motorcycle that can go 200 mph, you can expect to bury them within the month.

Posted by: Theodore Rex at August 31, 2014 08:57 AM (KwSAv)

106 103 O2 sensor code is WAY different than an evap code

Posted by: MAx at August 31, 2014 09:00 AM (b7yum)

107 104 Hydrogen cells just don't seem feasible. Something about the laws of the conservation of energy. Hydrogen does not occur naturally on this planet, it has to be extracted from water. How much energy is required to extract hydrogen from water (two parts H and one part O) and then how much energy do you get in return? Also, a hydrogen leak and and an open flame or spark could seriously ruin your day. Maybe T9 could explain it better. Posted by: lfw - 26 days to retirement at August 31, 2014 01:55 PM (vVSOO) Solar energy can be used to split water into hydrogen and oxygen. Then you get some of that energy back (it can do work and can provide heat) later when you reverse the reaction.

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2014 09:01 AM (MQEz6)

108 103 Although as new as I think your car is it should be covered by your warranty as emissions-related

Posted by: MAx at August 31, 2014 09:01 AM (b7yum)

109 @  102

   Flatheads had many problems with coolant flow.  2 years ago, we fixed one after someone else did a shitload of parts replacement ( Water pumps, stats even a radiator) by pulling the thing, completely disassembling it and flushing the block. 
 
  Got a young ton of core sand out of it.  Now the car runs cool and sweet even in a parade.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 31, 2014 09:02 AM (jeCnD)

110 If you read the tweet text below the picture it says "Manhattan Bridge" plain as day... sheeeesh. Only slightly OT - those of you interested in construction equipment ought to check out the Historical Construction Equipment Association (H.C.E.A.) group pages on Facebook. They post loads of photos of construction equipment at work from days gone by, as well as older equipment still alive and kicking today. Interesting and entertaining!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) [/i] [/s] [/u] at August 31, 2014 09:03 AM (vSDwv)

111 I would have to dig out the little print-out slip that listed all four possible answers.  The gas cap was #3 on the list.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2014 09:05 AM (whKdw)

112 Got a young ton of core sand out of it. Now the car runs cool and sweet even in a parade. Posted by: irongrampa _____________________________________________ One of the Flathead rebuild how-to books I have talks about often finding the old blocks full of core sand. Finding an uncracked flathead block is just about impossible anymore. It's more about how many do you want to pay to fix.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 09:05 AM (8FyP4)

113 Damn, I hate that, AnnaPuma. I had AutoZone scan my ex's minivan, replaced three different sensors - one by one - (to the tune of over $300), and the check engine light was still going off.

Posted by: shredded chi at August 31, 2014 09:06 AM (8uUK+)

114 112 I predict: P0442 Evap system small leak

Posted by: MAx at August 31, 2014 09:07 AM (b7yum)

115 You're really making me wish my '41 was a '40...dammit. Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 01:57 PM (8FyP4) The '41 is basically the same as the '46 due to the time it took for Detroit to refit from war production to civilian car production Is it a convertible? I can see you as Phil Silvers cursing out the kid as you float down the stream

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 09:08 AM (aTXUx)

116 God damn.  Jump on mower.......dead fuckin' battery.  Good mower but fucker goes through more batteries than an RC car.  $50 at Carquest.  Bought a six-pack too while I was at it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2014 09:10 AM (s2POs)

117 Is it a convertible? I can see you as Phil Silvers cursing out the kid as you float down the stream Posted by: kbdabear _______________________________________________ I love that scene, but it hurts watching the door getting ripped off. Mine is a station wagon. One of the bad things about '41s is that many of the parts are '41 only and really tough to find.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 09:11 AM (8FyP4)

118

114 People at Autozone work there for a reason.  You can't decide what parts to change based on codes.

Better bet is find a good mechanic or just type "P0442 2001 5.3 Suburban" or whatever into your browser.

Posted by: MAx at August 31, 2014 09:11 AM (b7yum)

119 Oh well have a great Sunday afternoon.

Off to the cinema to OD on pop, popcorn, and the Ghostbusters. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2014 09:11 AM (whKdw)

120

115 Fixed one of these this week.  It was a leaking purge valve and the only way to find it was a smoke machine.

Gotta have the pro equipment if you wanna make it these days

Posted by: MAx at August 31, 2014 09:13 AM (b7yum)

121 114 People at Autozone work there for a reason. You can't decide what parts to change based on codes. Better bet is find a good mechanic or just type "P0442 2001 5.3 Suburban" or whatever into your browser. Posted by: MAx ____________________________________________ I wonder how many O2 sensors have been replaced unnecessarily over the years?

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 09:13 AM (8FyP4)

122 One of my neighbors across the street has an old '50 Ford truck with the original 239 Flathead. The paint is badly faded but the body is still in good shape. With a wife and young children it's a long term project but even now that thing sounds sweet when he starts it up and takes if for a drive.

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 09:15 AM (aTXUx)

123 "People at Autozone work there for a reason. You can't decide what parts to change based on codes."

Beg to disagree.  Mechanics at dealers will first plug the fucker up to a diag machine to tell them what codes are pinging.  They'll start there and work the way back.  I can remember my Mom's '93 Suburban in the local dealer shop for 02 and they had a Hell of a time figuring it out.  Today?  Eh.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 31, 2014 09:19 AM (s2POs)

124 Flatheads don't make much power, but few engines are cooler or sound as good.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 09:19 AM (8FyP4)

125 @  122

   I would bet you could damn near retire on the money spent on unnecessary 02 sensor replacement.

   So many parts get changed wrongly it's criminal.  Any code pulled will ONLY tell you there's a problem in the circuit indicated--not that the part itself is bad.

   That is why you diagnose right to the bitter end.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 31, 2014 09:20 AM (jeCnD)

126 Its good that Chris Rock video is out in a better quality version now. Its been around in a crappy squashed down version for years but this is much nicer. He doesn't do any of that kind of humor any more. White people liked it too much, apparently.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2014 09:29 AM (zfY+H)

127 I wonder how many O2 sensors have been replaced unnecessarily over the years? *raises hand*

Posted by: Spun and Murky at August 31, 2014 09:32 AM (4DCSq)

128 I wonder how many O2 sensors have been replaced unnecessarily over the years? Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 02:13 PM (8FyP4) Speaking of bad maintenance, Better an O2 sensor than a new set of lungs, check this Dodge diesel pickup with the DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter) removed doing a dyno run in a diesel hot rod shop http://youtu.be/ipvJNdX7aZo

Posted by: kilo6 at August 31, 2014 09:33 AM (jWPU7)

129 Manhattan, Brooklyn At this point, what difference does it make?

Posted by: Hill Rode 'em Clinton at August 31, 2014 09:34 AM (TfAS/)

130 http://tinyurl.com/k6sssl7 1954 Buick Wildcat II American adventure in tomorrow's design -- Ed Nichols, Chief Design

Posted by: 1950s sportiest Buick at August 31, 2014 09:38 AM (TfAS/)

131 124 You can disagree all you want but my colleague Irongrampa just agreed with me @ 126

Posted by: MAx at August 31, 2014 09:39 AM (b7yum)

132 129 Kilo, guys that hot rod their diesel trucks are in to overfueling. They want that black smoke. I used to be a BOOB (brotherhood of oil burners).

Posted by: shredded chi at August 31, 2014 09:39 AM (8uUK+)

133 "Saturday" car thread. Are you using the time machine that Ace totally doesn't have?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 31, 2014 09:39 AM (3W1WP)

134 Did somebody say flatheads?

Posted by: Sandra Flook at August 31, 2014 09:40 AM (Dwehj)

135 Codes identify problems with SYSTEMS, not components

Posted by: MAx at August 31, 2014 09:40 AM (b7yum)

136 "Saturday" car thread. Are you using the time machine that Ace totally doesn't have? Shh. They're rolling.

Posted by: Theodore Rex at August 31, 2014 09:42 AM (KwSAv)

137 My car story- I was upset because Best Buy sold me wrong adapter and I had to go back. I fishtailed in the car, and hydroplaned as I was turning onto a another street and everything moved in slow motion, I came very close to totaling two cars waiting at the light. They attach a new one to my puter at Best Buy, did not work, and now puter is dead & will not turn on. This is after I had to go to 4 registers since they were acting up. So I get my money back after people with foreign accents try to cut in line and almost step on my puter which exhausted me lugging around so I put on floor. I am sick and probably will wake up dead some day I go to Apple and the burley hairy man yells at me implying it is my fault and not adaptor. I say I want to plug it in before I leave store. A doppelganger to a woman I know decides to help and I come home. I got so shook up skidding and sliding that I was shaking and honking and swearing. Often in the middle of these things I think of Thelma & Louise, Jimmy Cagney "Top of the World, Ma!" Michael Douglas "Falling Down", Chevy Chase and Wally World. Especially Michael Douglas. I feel bad for innocents but sometimes I get so frustrated I freak out.

Posted by: Baldy at August 31, 2014 09:44 AM (2bql3)

138 Codes identify problems with SYSTEMS, not components

Yes, especially when they start with a four.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at August 31, 2014 09:44 AM (Dwehj)

139 There are NO hydrogen mines or wells.

Posted by: DaveA at August 31, 2014 09:48 AM (DL2i+)

140 That Bond car list is amazing, I agree with almost all of their choices in the order they put them. That almost never happens.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2014 09:49 AM (zfY+H)

141 Dealerships in my town have this wonderful tendency to hire 40-ish cougars with massive fake hooters. The saleswoman at the Nissan dealer I just stopped at was no exception. Try answering questions when all you have on your mind is "BOOBS"

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 09:50 AM (aTXUx)

142 The last time I was in NJ was back in the 90s and they were phasing out traffic circles but they still had those idiotic jughandles which no one out of state knows are for making left turns. There was an overpass on I-287 in Piscataway that construction crews were working on before I moved to CA, and when I went back to visit 5 years later they were STILL working on that bridge And via con dios if you're driving at night in the rain, the lines cannot be seen by human eyes but a cop will be nearby to hit the lights if your tire touches one

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 09:57 AM (aTXUx)

143 133 129 Kilo, guys that hot rod their diesel trucks are in to overfueling. They want that black smoke. I used to be a BOOB (brotherhood of oil burners). Posted by: shredded chi at August 31, 2014 02:39 PM (8uUK+) Yeah, I was thinking about buying Suburban a while ago, a guy in Okeechobee FL was selling a modded Suburban 2500 diesel. When I went for a test drive the owner said "this here's a coal roller" ... which was my introduction to the world of "rollin' coal" The owner was something like this.. http://youtu.be/A3_B2Uf9LKQ Really friendly Southern guy with a good sense of humor

Posted by: kilo6 at August 31, 2014 09:58 AM (jWPU7)

144 obama's OSHA will retroactively fine the bridge construction company for hand rail violations.

Posted by: Buffalobob at August 31, 2014 09:59 AM (uIOCq)

145 Speaking of alternative fueled future cars ... Salt water-powered Quant e-Sportlimousine gets European approval http://tinyurl.com/mgsev4n

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 10:03 AM (aTXUx)

146 Tell me again about your airbags?

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2014 10:04 AM (PA6gi)

147 The key to hydrogen and fuel cell technology is reformer technology. It is basically a reactor that splits methane and releases hydrogen and CO2. Then you need to get the CO2 out of the hydrogen gas because CO2 destroys Fuel-cell membranes. It's all pretty circular, and the idea is to pilot the idea of building fuel cell cars with reformer technology, build the infrastructure and then somehow magically find a better way to separate hydrogen. Air Products has been working on the technology to make this all work for years. Either the reformers are at the H2 fuel station, or in your car (more likely at the fuel station). Hydrogen, in my opinion, is much safer than gasoline. Hydrogen is hard to confine as it is a very volatile gas/high vapor pressure gas. People are afraid of it because they are not familiar with it. I think the whole concept of Fuel-cell cars is pretty dumb as of right now, and not energy efficient, but there is a lot of research money from Uncle Sugar, so people are working on it.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative riding the comfy chair at August 31, 2014 10:08 AM (+1T7c)

148 OT.

All girl village in Brazil seeks men.

Moron road trip.
http://tinyurl.com/qe3xyp5

Posted by: redclay at August 31, 2014 10:12 AM (GM8B7)

149 No offense intended, kbdabear, but that woman in Iowahawk's '36 Chrysler photo is hotter than most of your "compliance pics". I prefer tasteful and understated, with a subtle undercurrent of "rowrl".

Posted by: rickl at August 31, 2014 10:14 AM (sdi6R)

150
I drove a Bambo once while visiting Cambodia.

Posted by: John F'n Kerry at August 31, 2014 10:16 AM (3/wAJ)

151 Phil Silvers in his 46 Ford Convertible http://tinyurl.com/q6kw7fw

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 10:19 AM (aTXUx)

152 With the original gas cap it came on when the needle reached 3/8ths of a tank. I really hope its not a back O2 sensor or such.

Sensors mostly throw their own independent codes.
You probably have a clog, bad line or bad valve in the gas vapor emissions capture stuff.  IIRC you've got a Mustang?  Most cars have online forums nowadays.  A little searching, WD40 and luck might save a dealer trip.  A few squirts down a vapor hose into a relay under the hood of the 06 GTO saved me a trip.

Posted by: DaveA at August 31, 2014 10:19 AM (DL2i+)

153 150 No offense intended, kbdabear, but that woman in Iowahawk's '36 Chrysler photo is hotter than most of your "compliance pics". I prefer tasteful and understated, with a subtle undercurrent of "rowrl". Posted by: rickl at August 31, 2014 03:14 PM (sdi6R) The market research I've done indicates that the main complaint from the Morons is that the women have too much clothing on.

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 10:22 AM (aTXUx)

154 The market research I've done indicates that the main complaint from the Morons is that the women have too much clothing on. Posted by: kbdabear __________________________________ You know your audience...

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 10:24 AM (8FyP4)

155 You can get a 40 Ford coupe on ebay motors for around 30K. In good condition. Now where is my winning lotto ticket? And my Uncle Junior had a colored guy named John who ran his still. I have the recipe.

Posted by: Erowmero at August 31, 2014 10:37 AM (go5uR)

156 1940 Ford Deluxe Woody for sale Small block Chevy under the hood, all yours for $115K http://www.cars-on-line.com/51313.html

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 10:44 AM (aTXUx)

157 "Excessive speed" is suspected as a factor in the crash.


Excessive speed, and inadequate brains, but mostly inadequate brains.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2014 12:40 PM (2w1g0)

158 The Obama administration doesn't seem to think enough of it to subsidize research on it, they're putting all their money into cronies who go all out on the battery-electrics. They even cut subsidies in California for the hydrogen fuel Honda Clarity

Posted by: kbdabear at August 31, 2014 12:19 PM (aTXUx)


I'm kind of surprised that Ogabe isn't subsidizing fuel cell vehicles, since the hydrogen fuel is every bit as impractical for automotive use as are electric storage batteries. Hydrogen is hard to store, expensive to manufacture (ain't no hydrogen wells), and has less energy density than lemon meringue. In short, it's a shitty fuel for mobile purposes. If we had hydrogen wells, and no oil wells, we would be making synthetic gasoline out of hydrogen and coal, so we could have a liquid fuel with an adequate energy density.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2014 12:54 PM (2w1g0)

159 The problem with hydrogen is that the gas is so flammable and it has a nasty tendency to accumulate in areas until an explosive ignition.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at August 31, 2014 12:52 PM (8FyP4)


Hydrogen is much lighter than air, so if it accumulates, it will be around ceilings. And the molecule is really, really small, which means it can seep out of tanks that will hold other gases securely. From the standpoint of fire hazard, heavier-than-air hydrocarbons like propane and gasoline vapor are probably a worse hazard, but hydrogen has its own unique set of hazards, combined with the fact that is a lousy way to carry energy, the sum of which should deter any sensible person from trying to use it as fuel.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2014 01:01 PM (2w1g0)

160 Not to get all PC and shit, but seriously, comparing actual Nazis to incompetent lazy DMV employees is just dumb. Come on.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at August 31, 2014 12:53 PM (0LHZx)



There were incompetent, lazy, and dumb Nazis, too. In fact, totalitarian systems of all stripes seem to encourage such people.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2014 01:07 PM (2w1g0)

161 /looks at the oceans

Posted by: TangoNine at August 31, 2014 01:04 PM (Rvkj4)



True, dat. The oceans are chock full of hydrogen. Burnt hydrogen, and to "un-burn" (reduce) it to make it into fuel again, we have to input more energy than we will get by subsequently burning it. TANSTAAFL

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2014 01:11 PM (2w1g0)

162 DMVs should not exist.

Everything they do can be done through private businesses.

And it won't hurt public safety one bit.

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2014 01:13 PM (MQEz6)



Which is how we do it in Alberta. Private registry offices acts as "vendors" for the government-supplied license plates. And no emissions testing, either.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2014 01:15 PM (2w1g0)

163 The Bond car list left off the flying AMC Matador. I am disappoint.

Posted by: fluffy at August 31, 2014 01:21 PM (Ua6T/)



It was there, but they mis-identified it as an AMC Hornet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2014 01:17 PM (2w1g0)

164 Hydrogen cells just don't seem feasible. Something about the laws of the conservation of energy. Hydrogen does not occur naturally on this planet, it has to be extracted from water. How much energy is required to extract hydrogen from water (two parts H and one part O) and then how much energy do you get in return? Also, a hydrogen leak and and an open flame or spark could seriously ruin your day. Maybe T9 could explain it better.

Posted by: lfw - 26 days to retirement at August 31, 2014 01:55 PM (vVSOO)



Commercial hydrogen is made by reacting natural gas with steam. Much cheaper than by electrolysis.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2014 01:24 PM (2w1g0)

165 When I was in my late teens, I was trying to decide between a 21-window VW Bus ($995) or a '56 Austin-Healey ($895) to replace my $50 Hillman Minx. They were both in great shape, but seemed overpriced so I looked elsewhere and settled for what I had. Jeebus, I was an idiot.


Posted by: MrScribble


Heh, I had a convertible Hillman Minx. First car I ever owned. Had to learn how to use tools, and common sense. Sold it to a friend after I had fixed all the broke stuff except for the pin holed floorboards and bought a '64 Corvair.

PS... Hydrogen does not accumulate unless it is an enclosed space. Its lighter than air and hence tends to rise and dissipate rapidly.

Using electrolysis to split hydrogen from oxygen requires lots of energy. Passively solar cells can do this but on a minor scale much like fuel cell energy production. Somewhere I saw someone doing this and using a compressor to store it so they could later power their car. Free energy but the initial investment is pricey.

Posted by: Gmac- Pondering...something involving rope and a tree at August 31, 2014 01:50 PM (baiNQ)

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