November 30, 2013

Saturday Car Thread - [Niedermeyer's Dead Horse]
— Open Blogger

Welcome back to the easy, breezy Saturday car thread.

It is my hope that each of you had a wonderful Thanksgiving, full of love, laughter, and pie. And, with Thanksgiving now behind us, it's time to focus on the rape of our culture and the mass consumerism that has destroyed our country.

Ooops! Sorry! I blacked out for a moment while recalling the faux-rage of a thousand dirty hippies as they took to twitter to grieve for our lost souls.

In tribute to them, and to honor the greatest poverty-destroying system in the world, I present a thread dedicated to greed. Sorry. I slipped again. Did I say "greed"? I meant to say "giving".

A few gift suggestions for the car lovers among us.

For the heavy-footed:

A radar detector. These, however, are not your run of the mill detectors, or... at these prices... they'd better not be.

For the guy who doesn't mind a few ants in his car:

A bacon-scented air freshener. This scent is available in spray form, but I recommend this version instead. The next time a hobo approaches your car, insisting on washing your windows, just point at it and tell him that the last fella who tried that is now hanging from your rear-view mirror.

For the littlest capitalists:

Hey Dionne, check out the totally lumped-out Jeep daddy bought me!

To protect that big investment:

Really nice floor liners.

For the lady who loves the bling:

Not your average key ring and guaranteed to make your lady ask "You spent how much on this thing?!"

Because tools deserve love too:

You can't store them in just any old box. They deserve a showcase of their own.

Your garage is your castle:

And, as such, why not make it look its very best? Car art.

A stocking stuffer:

A nice, little gadget with lots of great reviews.

For the speed demon:

Learn to drive like the pros at Skip Barber Racing School. If stock car racing is more your speed, there's The King.

To care for your baby:

You can't just run it through the local car wash. I mean, sure, you can, but it'll run you $30 and they won't do half as good a job as you will. It will be easy with the proper tools.

Now, the weekly cruisin' tunes:

And, finally, this thread brought to you by selling tires, the Pirelli way:

Posted by: Open Blogger at 09:35 AM | Comments (109)
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1 I have to admit something: I'm a fan of Fast N Loud.

Posted by: soothsayer is connectin the dots at November 30, 2013 09:37 AM (LM6ky)

2

Bucket, sponge, chamois, water.

 

It's not hard.

Posted by: garrett at November 30, 2013 09:38 AM (DwP37)

3 Mmmmmm.   Tan lines.  

Posted by: alexthechick - Really Universe Really? at November 30, 2013 09:40 AM (Gk3SS)

4 Off to buy some Pirelli tires...brb.

Posted by: garrett at November 30, 2013 09:40 AM (DwP37)

5 5th!

Posted by: WOW at November 30, 2013 09:42 AM (6j8ke)

6 Bucket, sponge, chamois, water. It's not hard. If I'm using them on the Pirelli model, it is.

Posted by: --- at November 30, 2013 09:42 AM (MMC8r)

7


If I'm using them on the Pirelli model, it is.

 

Wax on.

Wax off.

Posted by: Mr. Miyagi at November 30, 2013 09:45 AM (DwP37)

8 I like Pirelli tires, I think

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 30, 2013 09:46 AM (HVff2)

9 How is the wet performance on that Pirelli bikini?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 30, 2013 09:48 AM (8ZskC)

10 I'll be in my bunk, uh, buying Pirelli tires.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 30, 2013 09:49 AM (UAMVq)

11 Must...buy...Pirelli...tires...

Posted by: rickl at November 30, 2013 09:49 AM (sdi6R)

12 On the other hand, if you prefer a German tire...

http://tinyurl.com/qdyre7s

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 30, 2013 09:50 AM (8ZskC)

13
    Hate this time of year in that there's no driving the Toy.

    Garrett, you get to drive your Ford this year?

Posted by: irongrampa at November 30, 2013 09:51 AM (SAMxH)

14 Nascar bought Iowa Speedway this week in a highly unusual move. Nascar doesn't own any other tracks. Not sure if they ever have. Now, the France family, who owns Nascar, also owns International Speedway Corp. -- which does own a bunch of tracks. But Nascar itself bought Iowa Speedway. It's unclear what this means. Iowa Speedway was in financial trouble. Built in 2006, it's 30 miles east of Des Moines. It had 2 of Nascar's 3 series (Nationwide and Trucks) as well as IndyCar. Only thing it lacked was a Cup race, but NWide, Trucks, and Indy is a great line-up. Nascar has been hurt bad by the Great Recession. Though it seems to have stabilized in the last 2 years. TV ratings and attendance went way down from the mid-2000s peak (ie when Iowa was built). Talladega is removing 80k seats over the winter. Most tracks have already reduced capacity sharply. Empty seats look bad on TV. Some think Nascar did it mainly to avoid bad PR of having a brand new track like Iowa fold so quickly. Nascar feels like they've stabilized at this new, lower level and can start building again.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 30, 2013 09:51 AM (ZPrif)

15 Read the radar detector article. Too many of the gadgets require technology I don't have, or don't want in my vehicles. The device to foil the photo radar looks interesting, though. I wonder if much the same effect could be had by using a photographer's slave flash. And what about retro-reflectors, to bounce the photo-radar's flash back to its lens?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2013 09:54 AM (8Fl6F)

16 Did I mention that the Pirelli girl pictured here would later become Mrs. Tom Brady?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 30, 2013 09:56 AM (DmNpO)

17 Son In Law is putting a water pump into Daughter's Topaz. The directions he got from the forum he looked it up on told him to take the 5 bolts out of the back and then take the 3 bolts out holding it to the block. I told him to take the 3 bolts off first, then you can bring the whole damn thing inside where its warm to take the 5 bolts off of the back.


After struggling to remove 3 of the 5 bolts off of the back, he finally did what I told him to do and took the 3 bolts holding it to the block. It's a lot easier to get to those 3 bolts than it is to get the 5 bolts off of the back.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 30, 2013 10:01 AM (yh0zB)

18 Remember the guy who built his baby a black hotrod push car that would shoot out flames? There was a video but I can't find it.

Posted by: The Commenting Software at November 30, 2013 10:02 AM (kkbgQ)

19 The Iowa track actually goes against the grain of Nascar's expansion strategy that worked so well in the 90s and 2000s until the crash. That strategy was to build new tracks near major metropolitan areas. (Nascar itself doesn't build tracks, but Nascar promising to race there is key to getting financing for new tracks.) In the 90s and 2000s boom tracks were built in outside Chicago, Dallas, LA, Miami and Kansas City. The Vegas track was rebuilt bigger and better. A lot of older tracks were built in small towns in the southeast. Nascar has very consciously tried to shed it's regional image and be a national sport. So they ditched many of the small town tracks and replaced them with big metro tracks with a more national footprint. Des Moines isn't small town, but it's not a major metro either. Nascar had pushed hard to get a track built in Seattle and NYC metro, but abandoned those hopes after the crash. The base of Nascar's fans had always been smaller towns in the southeast and midwest. And those fans noticed Nascar's obvious attempt to drop them and upgrade to the richer big-city fans during the boom. Since the crash, Nascar has come crawling back to those fans begging for forgiveness. So buying Iowa in a medium-sized city like Des Moines is, perhaps, part of that PR campaign.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 30, 2013 10:05 AM (ZPrif)

20 I have to admit something: I'm a fan of Fast N Loud.  Posted by: soothsayer is connectin the dots at November 30, 2013 02:37 PM

I wanted to be, but have never been able to get really wrapped up in any of the car-themed teevee shows. Might be because of my own fading connections with the car biz, or it could just be that there's a substantial quantity of phonus-bolonus manufactured drama and dumb-shittedness on those shows. They're like HGTV on wheels.

That said, I always enjoy watching the big, loudmouth doofus on "American Pickers" when he goes all expert-like while looking at cars. If he's as clueless about other kinds of stuff, it's only History Channel's money that's keeping him in business....

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 30, 2013 10:05 AM (kaGpp)

21 @  17

   You can get seriously screwed taking advice from way too many forums.  Haven't had much luck referring to most.

    One of the nastiest jobs ever was removing the heater core from a Jaguar XJ6.   I think they build the flippin car around the dashboard.

    I'll shoot the next fucker who asks me to do THAT again.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 30, 2013 10:05 AM (SAMxH)

22 To afford those Pirellis pictured above and possibly a super model of similar wear rating, the Powerball cash jackpot tonight is $39.1 million.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 30, 2013 10:07 AM (Qd/25)

23 16 Did I mention that the Pirelli girl pictured here would later become Mrs. Tom Brady? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 30, 2013 02:56 PM (DmNpO) Lucky bastard. Of course, at some point, he got sick and tired of putting up with her bullshit.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 30, 2013 10:08 AM (UAMVq)

24 Son In Law is putting a water pump into Daughter's Topaz. ...I told him to take the 3 bolts off first, then you can bring the whole damn thing inside where its warm to take the 5 bolts off of the back.....It's a lot easier to get to those 3 bolts than it is to get the 5 bolts off of the back. Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 30, 2013 03:01 PM I had a 1980 Ford Fiesta Sport(best car I ever owned) I had to drop the engine and transmission to replace the water pump.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 30, 2013 10:09 AM (MhA4j)

25 Lucky bastard. Of course, at some point, he got sick and tired of putting up with her bullshit. *** Not yet he hasn't

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 30, 2013 10:10 AM (DmNpO)

26 >>> Des Moines isn't small town, but it's not a major metro either. Nascar had pushed hard to get a track built in Seattle and NYC metro, but abandoned those hopes after the crash. What is your take on the NH track in Loudon? No idea if it is financially successful, but I definitely avoid Concord, NH when they race.

Posted by: fluffy at November 30, 2013 10:10 AM (Ua6T/)

27 Fast n Loud has a clear profit-seeking aspect to it. I like that.

Posted by: soothsayer is connectin the dots at November 30, 2013 10:11 AM (LM6ky)

28 The Mars Orbiter Mission's burn was apparently successful, and India has a Mars probe on the way!

Posted by: rickl at November 30, 2013 10:11 AM (sdi6R)

29 Since the crash, Nascar has come crawling back to those fans begging for forgiveness. So buying Iowa in a medium-sized city like Des Moines is, perhaps, part of that PR campaign. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 30, 2013 03:05 PM

Dude, they have a long, long way to go if they want to make a comeback. Not that it can't be done, but they will have to throw away a lot of their current rules and micromanagement.

What really put them on the map were 'shine, cheatin' and good old door-bangin' drama. Though they hint otherwise, they don't really want that stuff getting in the way of The Show.

Smokey Yunick, Junior Johnson, Fireball, Dale Sr. and Curtis Turner would revive the sport instantly. If they were around, some of today's whiners, talented as they are, would get a bad case of the vapors.

Oh, and bring back REAL[/i} stock-based racecars, too. I got to drive a NASCAR '61 Chevy once...scared the pee out of me, but damn! did a bunch of those beasts look great on the track!

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 30, 2013 10:13 AM (kaGpp)

30

Garrett, you get to drive your Ford this year?

 

 

Yeah.  I put a few miles on the old girl.

Tough year, though.  Water Pump, Power Steering Pump, and a bit of body damage (fortunately, over some old repairs that needed seeing to).  

Just got it back from my body guy a couple weeks ago. 

She looks good as ever...just, sitting there in the cold garage.

Posted by: garrett at November 30, 2013 10:13 AM (6skVv)

31 What annoys me about Fast-n-Loud is if you give them half a chance they will bag the suspension.  Really?  If I want a blow up car I will go buy a balloon that is car shaped.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 30, 2013 10:14 AM (Qd/25)

32 Oh, and Smokey Yunick's 7/8 scale Chevelle was a masterpiece of top-quality cheatin'.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 30, 2013 10:15 AM (kaGpp)

33 I had a 1980 Ford Fiesta Sport(best car I ever owned)
I had to drop the engine and transmission to replace the water pump.

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 30, 2013 03:09 PM (MhA4j)



I had a 79 Fiesta, it went almost 400K before my ex wife's second husband didn't put oil in it. It would use exactly 1 quart between oil changes, he didn't change the oil and didn't check it either. I would always break 1 plug (#4 IIRC) whenever I changed the spark plugs. It was a great little car.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 30, 2013 10:17 AM (yh0zB)

34

Any plans for the cars this winter, Irongramps?

I'm thinking about going through the top end of the 390...if the funds are there.

Posted by: garrett at November 30, 2013 10:18 AM (pJo5f)

35 Small town midwest is still the base for open wheel racing -- like Sprint cars on dirt tracks. Open wheel racing (IndyCar) had a catastrophic 90s just as Nascar boomed. It still hasn't recovered. Indy 500 still gets fans, but the IndyCar series is mostly ignored. From the 50s to the 80s, it was a midwest vs southeast battle for racing dominance open-wheel (midwest) vs stock car (southeast) racing. In the 90s Nascar boomed and open-wheel collapsed in America and that battle was pretty decisively won by stock car racing, even as open wheel won most of the rest of the planet with F1. Nowadays even winning the Indy 500 is mostly just a stepping stone for a chance at a, much more lucrative, Nascar job. Sam Hornish won the IndyCar series 3 times and still only has managed a Nationwide ride (Nascar's 2nd tied series). 30 years ago he would have been the next AJ Foyt and nationally known. But you can't get famous winning if nobody watches.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at November 30, 2013 10:18 AM (ZPrif)

36 Oh, and in other old car news...there appears to be a good chance that I will be able to buy my 65 Type II back!

Posted by: garrett at November 30, 2013 10:19 AM (pJo5f)

37 28 The Mars Orbiter Mission's burn was apparently successful, and India has a Mars probe on the way!

Yay! Good luck, India!

Posted by: Anachronda at November 30, 2013 10:19 AM (U82Km)

38 65 split window Type 2 Transporter with 21 or 23 windows?  Or one of the Westphalias?  Maybe a Single Cab or Double Cab?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 30, 2013 10:20 AM (Qd/25)

39

   I'm enough of a traditionalist to only like old cars that have been redone to factory spec.  They require much more tinkering to keep them straight, but THAT is a good share of the fun of ownership, imho.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 30, 2013 10:21 AM (SAMxH)

40 So...last year, a pumpkin leaked in the back of my van. We've cleaned and cleaned, but I guess the smell is in the padding under the carpet. I don't know if we should try to get to the padding ourselves or just have someone do it. Thoughts?

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 30, 2013 10:21 AM (SUKHu)

41 Can any of my Horde friends diagnose the shimmy in the front end while breaking? 2006 Mitsubishi Endeavor, not the AWD model.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 30, 2013 10:22 AM (N/cFh)

42 31 Here is a car I helped customize. I made all the 316 Stainless Steel trim. We made templates while the car was torn down and took thousands of datum points with a Co-ordinate Measuring Machine Hand ground profile cutters. Machined it all out of stainless billet Hand polished to a mirror finish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJSQTwZ8J1A

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 30, 2013 10:23 AM (MhA4j)

43 Braking, damn autocorrect.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 30, 2013 10:23 AM (N/cFh)

44 Can any of my Horde friends diagnose the shimmy in the front end while breaking? 2006 Mitsubishi Endeavor, not the AWD model.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 30, 2013 03:22 PM (N/cFh)



Warped brake rotors.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 30, 2013 10:23 AM (yh0zB)

45 So...last year, a pumpkin leaked in the back of my van.

We've cleaned and cleaned, but I guess the smell is in the padding under the carpet.

I don't know if we should try to get to the padding ourselves or just have someone do it.

Thoughts?



Pie?  Wait, what?

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 30, 2013 10:24 AM (8ZskC)

46

 diagnose the shimmy in the front end

 

Probably warped rotors.

Posted by: Ronster at November 30, 2013 10:24 AM (Rru72)

47 Front rotors, specifically.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 30, 2013 10:24 AM (yh0zB)

48
Good news everyone!

The Truth About Cars - Gone In 10 Seconds: Truck Tailgate Thefts Soar

http://tinyurl.com/nddrr76

Apparently that "voter quite reachable by Republicans" is getting a little sticky fingered once again.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 30, 2013 10:25 AM (kdS6q)

49 I'm enough of a traditionalist to only like old cars that have been redone to factory spec. They require much more tinkering to keep them straight, but THAT is a good share of the fun of ownership, imho.
Posted by: irongrampa at November 30, 2013 03:21 PM


Damn straight!

When I see a hot rod based on a car from the '30s, I wanna see a flathead under the hood, drum brakes and three-on-the-floor.

If it's from the '50s I'll accept a 265 Chevy. Or, just maybe, a 283.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 30, 2013 10:25 AM (kaGpp)

50

65 Westy. 

 

I restored it when I was in college.  My ex girlfriend, her mom and  dad have been the caretakers for the past 15 years or so.   They've continued to improve her over the years.

 

Posted by: garrett at November 30, 2013 10:25 AM (pJo5f)

51 @  34

   Nothing on my vehicles, one of the guys mentioned that there's a 413 Mopar needs freshening, though.

   I just replaced the exhaust manifolds on the Ramcharger, having deleted the AIR pump and plumbing.  That opened up stuff pretty good.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 30, 2013 10:26 AM (SAMxH)

52 Here is a car I helped customize. I made all the 316 Stainless Steel trim. We made templates while the car was torn down and took thousands of datum points with a Co-ordinate Measuring Machine Hand ground profile cutters. Machined it all out of stainless billet Hand polished to a mirror finish *** Holy cow! What a looker!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 30, 2013 10:26 AM (DmNpO)

53 When I spy something interesting on the road, I try to snap off a photo, here's the latest: http://i1364.photobucket.com/albums/r727/MickySpillaine/van_zps6d7945a8.jpg A gold star for the one who identifies it first, and..., no wise cracks about the rusty wiper arm.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 30, 2013 10:26 AM (aDwsi)

54 Yep. Probably rotors. They're not too hard to replace, and usually fairly inexpensive. I think I paid$35 each for the girls' minivan.

Posted by: shredded chi at November 30, 2013 10:26 AM (ufy6O)

55

If it's from the '50s I'll accept a 265 Chevy. Or, just maybe, a 283.

 

 

Not in a Ford, I won't.   Fuckin' Brand X bullshit.

Posted by: garrett at November 30, 2013 10:27 AM (pJo5f)

56 Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 30, 2013 03:26 PM

Commercial version of the first ("original") BMC Mini. Based on the Traveler version, minus exterior wood and rear windows.

Very, very cool piece.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 30, 2013 10:28 AM (kaGpp)

57 My favorite car/gift overlooked : http://www.ohgizmo.com/2006/01/10/smoking-tire-scented-candles/ Bonus- Readies you for the Burning Times

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 30, 2013 10:29 AM (aDwsi)

58 For garrett -

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/52932.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 30, 2013 10:30 AM (Qd/25)

59 MrMcScribbler scores an immediate hit. When I saw it, I at first thought Bedford, but external door hinges and sliding window make it a mini for certain.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 30, 2013 10:32 AM (aDwsi)

60 Can any of my Horde friends diagnose the shimmy in the front end while breaking? 2006 Mitsubishi Endeavor, not the AWD model.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 30, 2013 03:22 PM (N/cFh)


Warped brake rotors.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 30, 2013 03:23 PM (yh0zB)


That'll do it, for sure, but don't overlook a front tire with a belt separation. Drive slowly ahead in a parking lot with your hands off the wheel, and if you see the steering wheel do a little twitch with every revolution of the wheels, that could indicate a belt separation. Such a tire should be replaced; it will only get worse, until it fails at the worst possible time.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2013 10:32 AM (8Fl6F)

61 NASCAR forgot who brung em to the dance, as it  were.   They sold out  their base fans years ago.  I always thought it funny that when advertisers said   the big emerging market in NASCAR was women, the good ole boys disappeared and were replaced with face men.  Embrace the suck, France family.

Posted by: Havedash at November 30, 2013 10:32 AM (ToMJU)

62 Not in a Ford, I won't. Fuckin' Brand X bullshit. Posted by: garrett at November 30, 2013 03:27 PM

Dude.

Tell me you're gonna put a Y-block in a hot rod. It'll weigh more than the rest of the car....

BTW: Years ago, I was friends with racecar-preparer, desert racer and all-around neat guy Bill Stroppe. He told me about a '60 Ford Falcon he was hired to hop up (by FoMoCo) for one of the Ford family. Out came the 170 inline-six, in went a Y-block and a 2-speed Fordomatic. Needed much heavier front springs, to say the least! Even so, he told me it was pretty awful on twisty roads.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 30, 2013 10:32 AM (kaGpp)

63 MrMcScribbler scores an immediate hit. When I saw it, I at first thought Bedford, but external door hinges and sliding window make it a mini for certain. Posted by: Mike Hammer -------------- Anglia, BTW was my second guess

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 30, 2013 10:34 AM (aDwsi)

64 Gingy, it only shimmies when brakes are applied?  Or do you notice a shimmy also when accelerating?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 30, 2013 10:35 AM (Qd/25)

65

Ford Chassis, Ford Power. 

Sorry.  It's just how I am.

 

Great pic, anna.  

Posted by: garrett at November 30, 2013 10:37 AM (pJo5f)

66 Anglia, BTW was my second guess Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 30, 2013 03:34 PM

In a sense, I cheated by even replying. I have had the hots for any and all BMC Minis since they first came out. By choice, it's be a Cooper S 1275, but any would do. Including the nifty cargo box.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 30, 2013 10:37 AM (kaGpp)

67 64 Gingy, it only shimmies when brakes are applied? Or do you notice a shimmy also when accelerating?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 30, 2013 03:35 PM (Qd/25)

 

 

 

Are we still talking about the  Pirelli  tire  model or  a  car?

Posted by: Havedash at November 30, 2013 10:38 AM (ToMJU)

68 MrScribbler - Knowing is not cheating. You have dated yourself, however.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 30, 2013 10:39 AM (aDwsi)

69 A gold star for the one who identifies it first, and..., no wise cracks about the rusty wiper arm.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 30, 2013 03:26 PM (aDwsi)

That's an Austin Mini panel. late '60's maybe?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2013 10:40 AM (8Fl6F)

70 If this is your idea of picking up girls...

You're doing it wrong
http://tinyurl.com/qdh65op

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 30, 2013 10:41 AM (Qd/25)

71
   When I was working, it was standard procedure to do a runout check even on new out of the box rotors.  Surprising how many are warped from the getgo.

   Other steps include thoroughly cleaning the axle hub to remove dirt and rust.  The rotor and hub mating surface MUST be clean and parallel, or you will install a brake pulsation.

    Final step, wheel nuts tightened in sequence to the ptoper torque.  This is best done with a torque limiting socket--one of them special tools.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 30, 2013 10:41 AM (SAMxH)

72 Alberta - I used up my gold stars -> 56

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 30, 2013 10:42 AM (aDwsi)

73 You have dated yourself, however. Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 30, 2013 03:39 PM

Well, yeah, I am older than most of the rocks you see up in the mountains....

But IIRC, NASCAR didn't instantly catch on to Smokey's li'l Chevelle. Seems to me it was entered at one race (Daytona, I think), went through tech (no templates or lasers then) and at least one practice seesion where it was fast enough that NASCAR wanted a second look. And told Smokey to please take it home (minus the please).

I've seen the actual car; it still exists. You have to park it right next to another Chevelle to see that every piece of exterior sheet metal was fabricated in smaller scale.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 30, 2013 10:44 AM (kaGpp)

74 Yunick was a clever clever guy, but when he started fussing with the GLHS..., I just kind of lost interest.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 30, 2013 10:48 AM (aDwsi)

75 Alberta - I used up my gold stars -> 56

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 30, 2013 03:42 PM (aDwsi)


That's OK, too slow on the draw. But I have a little panel that's even cuter, if possible: http://s210.photobucket.com/user/gordintrochu/media/Baby_bathed.jpg.html?sort=3&o=21

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2013 10:51 AM (8Fl6F)

76 64 Gingy, it only shimmies when brakes are applied? Or do you notice a shimmy also when accelerating? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 30, 2013 03:35 PM (Qd/25) --- Accelerating quickly as well. My mechanic had a quick look with a camera on a tube thingy (yes, that is the technical term) and said it was not the rotor. I have not taken anything for a full diagnosis. I had asked him to see what was causing the noise in the front passenger tire area.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 30, 2013 10:52 AM (N/cFh)

77 Alberta - Can't connect to the link

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 30, 2013 10:53 AM (aDwsi)

78 Here is a car I helped customize.
I made all the 316 Stainless Steel trim.
We made templates while the car was torn down and took thousands of datum points with a Co-ordinate Measuring Machine
Hand ground profile cutters. Machined it all out of stainless billet
Hand polished to a mirror finish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJSQTwZ8J1A Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 30, 2013 03:23 PM

Damn that's a sweet looking 51 Merc

Just think of the wonderful things 3-D printing can do for car customizers and restorers in the future

Need a taillight for a 54 Caddy? No problem, just print it up from old specs

Posted by: kbdabear at November 30, 2013 10:53 AM (aTXUx)

79 Bad link. Try this: http://s210.photobucket.com/user/gordintrochu/media/Baby_bathed.jpg.html

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2013 10:54 AM (8Fl6F)

80 Shows you what age does to a woman ..

The Pirelli model becomes the nasty man-faced America hater that is the current Mrs Tom Brady

Posted by: kbdabear at November 30, 2013 10:55 AM (aTXUx)

81 Alberta - If I weren't about to run an errand, I would figure it out. It appears to be one of the aforementioned Bedford or Anglias?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at November 30, 2013 10:57 AM (aDwsi)

82 No, it's a '48 Crosley panel delivery, built in Cincinnatti, Ohio.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2013 10:58 AM (8Fl6F)

83 Because I'm a giver, something for everybody

Mercedes SLK concept car, elbows, and silver stompy boots

http://tinyurl.com/qjbxxfd

Posted by: kbdabear at November 30, 2013 10:59 AM (aTXUx)

84 Has me muttering in elbonics.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2013 11:02 AM (8Fl6F)

85 @  76

   Gingy, what you just described sounds like a bad CV joint.

    Probably an inner.   A good inspection by the tech should confirm.

     If this is so, then I'd suggest replacing the whole shaft with a remanufactured one.   A better long term fix.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 30, 2013 11:04 AM (SAMxH)

86 I have to leave and ride the little mare while there is still good daylight but must remember to check the thread for thoughts on Gingy's car.   Wheel bearings going?  But that was the back tires on my little Saturn and wasn't really a shudder, just a fairly obvious noise with acceleration/deceleration.  

Posted by: PaleRider at November 30, 2013 11:05 AM (vL0Nv)

87 76 Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth If that's the case, separating tire or some fail in the linkage

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 30, 2013 11:05 AM (MhA4j)

88 Heh,  I figured  I type so slow that there would likely be at least one answer by the time I hit post.  

Posted by: PaleRider at November 30, 2013 11:06 AM (vL0Nv)

89 A CV joint can certainly cause a shimmy, but any I have seen bad enough to do that also manifested themselves by the noise, a rhythmic clunking.


Again, drive in a parking lot, but cut tight "S" bends. The clunking should get louder when the affected wheel is on the outside of the bend.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2013 11:10 AM (8Fl6F)

90 It isn't a clunk. It's almost as though something is rubbing, higher pitched at speed.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 30, 2013 11:11 AM (N/cFh)

91 Maybe a loose Framers Bolton? /sarc

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 30, 2013 11:13 AM (MhA4j)

92 Jay Leno has a 3D printer for the parts he needs for his old cars

http://tinyurl.com/26xhexh

Posted by: kbdabear at November 30, 2013 11:14 AM (aTXUx)

93 Again, drive in a parking lot, but cut tight "S" bends. The clunking should get louder when the affected wheel is on the outside of the bend.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2013 04:10 PM


If it's not a warped rotor, I'd check to see that the nut holding the outer wheel bearing is tight. If that's loose, the wheel could wobble like crazy.

But hey, it a Mitsubishi. I know nothing about those Japanese rides.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 30, 2013 11:15 AM (kaGpp)

94 @ 89

   That works like a charm to find a bad OUTER joint. Not so much the inners, though. Best bet there is on a lift and a physical check, holding the shaft and trying to see if there's movement--slop--in the joint.

   Last and best, of course is disassembly if applicable, and inspecting the joint.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 30, 2013 11:15 AM (SAMxH)

95
   A shame you can't do a virtual road test, isn't it?

Posted by: irongrampa at November 30, 2013 11:16 AM (SAMxH)

96 Dang it people in my iPad! Fix my car via the intertubes!

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 30, 2013 11:18 AM (N/cFh)

97 Last and best, of course is disassembly if applicable, and inspecting the joint.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 30, 2013 04:15 PM (SAMxH)


Agreed. Just trying to suggest some zero-cost things she can try before putting it in the hands of a mechanic.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2013 11:19 AM (8Fl6F)

98 Dang it people in my iPad! Fix my car via the intertubes! Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 30, 2013 04:18 PM

If you're gonna be that way, why not just download a new car?

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 30, 2013 11:19 AM (kaGpp)

99 Sounds like a loose nut behind the wheel.

Posted by: soothsayer is connectin the dots at November 30, 2013 11:21 AM (LM6ky)

100 Wait a minute, have you at any time played any Michael Bolton or Yanni? Even on the radio?

Posted by: Dept. Of Acuracy at November 30, 2013 11:23 AM (MhA4j)

101 I'm going with a slightly warped rotor, just hitting the pad a little. The pad to rotor clearance is minimal. Try applying the brakes slightly at the spees it does it and see if  the sound changes.

Posted by: bill sometimes bill from canada at November 30, 2013 11:25 AM (X1kvz)

102 I got my husband from the Internet, why not a car? Thanks guys and gals, I will point Dave this way.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 30, 2013 11:25 AM (N/cFh)

103 Problem with diagnosing anything on teh Intarwebz is that you can't actually see what's going on. It takes a drive, followed by the laying-on of hands and tools....

I suppose there's an app for car-fixing, but I'd rather trust a knockoff shop manual like the kind I used to buy for my cars. They showed just enough to get you in trouble.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 30, 2013 11:32 AM (kaGpp)

104 Has anyone thought that Gingy might have lost a wheel weight?  Hence out of balance?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at November 30, 2013 11:33 AM (Qd/25)

105 #104, Anna Puma -- My experience tells me a lost wheel weight will wobble under all conditions once it reaches a certain speed. Braking shouldn't do it.

If I were Gingy, I'd check my car insurance and contemplate a fire. Not that I've ever done that. Of course.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 30, 2013 11:37 AM (kaGpp)

106 Aw come on, I like my car. And I ALWAYS have good insurance. It's what I did in Canada before Dave brought me here.

Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 30, 2013 11:38 AM (N/cFh)

107 Aw come on, I like my car. And I ALWAYS have good insurance. It's what I did in Canada before Dave brought me here. Posted by: Gingy @GingyNorth at November 30, 2013 04:38 PM

I wasn't exactly bad-rapping your ride, Gingy. Being a Mitsubishi, it could be either a nice piece or a real Zero.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 30, 2013 11:41 AM (kaGpp)

108 I've got in trouble a few times fixing cars, but never had to break down and call a mechanic and a towtruck. However the truck did sit there with the timing belt out for a few days during a hot week. Then there was the van with a broken bolt for the thermostat sitting there for a few days when it was nearly zero overnight.

Posted by: bill sometimes bill from canada at November 30, 2013 11:47 AM (X1kvz)

109 Good golly miss molly, as to the bacon scented spray, keep your local muslim/mosque in mind !

Posted by: ron n. at December 02, 2013 01:43 AM (c7HxG)

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