December 31, 2016

Saturday Afternoon Chess/Open Thread 12-31-2016
— Open Blogger



Portrait of Mr and Mrs Paul Cass in Vermeers Interior.jpg

Portrait of Mr. and Mrs. Paul Cass in Vermeer's Interior
Michael Cheval


Good afternoon morons and moronettes, and welcome to the Saturday Afternoon Chess/Open Thread, the only AoSHQ thread with content specifically for all of us chess nerds who pay homage in the temple of Caïssa, goddess of the chessboard. And, for those of you who aren't nerdly enough for chess, you can use this thread to talk about checkers, or other games, or politics, or whatever you wish, only please try to keep it civil. Nobody wants to get into a tomato fight on a Saturday afternoon. Unless you're hungry.


Problem 1 - White To Play (361)

Hint: White Wins Material


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Chess Nuts


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(h/t ibguy)


Problem 2 - Black To Play (179)

Hint: Black mates in 2


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Chess Pie?

Believe it or not, there is such a thing. I have idea why it's called chess pie, but with 2 cups of sugar combined with a tablespoon of vinegar, that seems pretty odd. The recipe looks kind of like a key lime pie without the key lime:

Ingredients

1/2 cup butter
2 cups white sugar
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
4 eggs
1 tablespoon cornmeal
1/4 cup evaporated milk
1 tablespoon distilled white vinegar
1 (9 inch) unbaked pie shell


Directions

Preheat the oven to 425 degrees F.

In a large bowl, mix the butter, sugar and vanilla together. Mix in the eggs, then [hand] stir in the cornmeal, evaporated milk and vinegar until smooth.

Bake for 10 minutes in the preheated oven, then reduce heat to 300 degrees F for 40 minutes. Let cool.

Cut and top servings with whipped cream or alamode

(h/t nobility.org)


Problem 3 - White To Play (BWTC 22)

This problem contains 5 distinct paths to checkmate. Find them all.


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Problem 4 - White To Play (BWTC 39)

This one's a bit harder.

Hint: White can force checkmate in 7 moves or less


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Endgame of the Week (Endgame 240)

It's White to move. Black is at a material disadvantage. What is his game plan to keep White from winning, and can he succeed?


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Zombie Problem

What is the best line of play for White? This is a tough problem for zombie, our resident master. Let's see what he can do with it. I'll post the solution with the others in an hour or two, even though I don't understand it well enough to comment on it.


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Solutions Update


Problem 1 - White To Play


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1.Bxd7!

And now, Black will lose the exchange no matter what:

1...Rxd7
2.Qxb8

It's either that or

1...Qxd7
2.Rc7 Qxc7 (2...Rb7 3.Rxd7+ Rdxd7)
3.Qxc7+

Black is down a rook in either case.


Problem 2 - Black To Play


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A simple, forced win for Black:

1...Qxh2+!
2.Kxh2 Rxh4#

Easy-peasy.


Problem 3 - White To Play


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It suddenly occured to me that there may be more than 5 paths. If you've found more, congratulations. All of the mates start with the same first move:

1.Ne6!

Threatens g5+ and mate next move. Another thread is Qxe7. There are a number of plausible Black responses. The obvious one is

1...Qxh4, but then 2.Bg7#

So that's one path. Black can also try

1...Qxe6, to which White will finish him with 2.g5#

That's two.

If Black moves 1...g5 to prevent White playing g5+, White can instead play either 2.Bg7# or 2.Qxh5#

That's three and four.

Lastly

1...Rxf7

This is the variation chosen by my chess app. If prevents Bg7#, but White has other resources.

2.g5+ Qxg5+
3.Qxg5#

And that's the fifth path.


Problem 4 - White To Play


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1. Qb6+! axb6

Pretty much forced. Black has no place to run: 1...Kc8 2.Qc7#

2.Bxb6+ Kc8

Again, forced.

3.Rc7+ Kd8
4.Rf7+ Kc8
5.Rxf8+ Qe8

Not 5...Kd7 6.Rd8# But blocking with the queen only delays the inevitable.

6.Rxe8+ Kd7
7.Rd8# 1-0


Endgame of the Week


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So, the best hope for Black is a draw. If he can somehow snap up that pawn, that's a draw. As a matter of fact, he doesn't even have to win the pawn outright. He can also swap his bishop for the pawn, and that's good enough for a draw.

But, can he do it?

Answer: no, he can't. White is well aware of this strategy, and is able to circumvent it.

1.Be7

White wants to force the black bishop away from the e7 square so he can advance the pawn.
Be1

1...Ba3 (or Bd2 are Bd1 the same)

2.Bd8+!

White has now cleared the way for the pawn to advance. His bishop is expendable.

2...Kxd8
3.e7+ Kd7
4. e8=Q

And the material advantage is enough for White to win.


Zombie Problem


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Black has a clear and ostensibly deadly plan: ... Kb8-c8-d8, followed by the lethal maneuver ... Qc8-a8-a6-f1. But White has an incredible way to set up a fortress:

1.Kd2 Kc8
2.Rc1 Kd8
3.Rh1!!

The point: White banishes his rook to the corner to be "stalemated".

3...Qc8
4.Ke1 Qa8
5.Kf1 Qa6+
6.Kg1

An unbelievable position: Black’s queen cannot stay on the a6-f1 diagonal due to stalemate, but there are no other ways to penetrate.

See you all next week!

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Note: that cryptic line of letters and numbers you see underneath each board diagram is a representation of the position in what is known as "Forsyth-Edwards Notation", or F.E.N. It's actually readable by humans. Most computer applications nowadays can read FEN, so those of you who may want to study the position, you can copy the line of FEN and paste into your chess app and it should automatically recreate the position on its display board. Or, Windows users can just "triple click" on it and the entire line will be highlighted so you can copy and past it into your chess app.

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So that about wraps it up for this week. Chess thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to my yahoo address: OregonMuse little-a-in-a-circle yahoo dott com.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 12:13 PM | Comments (507)
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1 Eating my words

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2016 12:10 PM (5sOEp)

2 Near the top?

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 31, 2016 12:10 PM (QwbmS)

3 1

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2016 12:10 PM (8J/Te)

4 Oh so close.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 31, 2016 12:10 PM (QwbmS)

5 Just posted on another thread - Suspect there will be another open thread later, guessing no chess thread though. Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2016 05:10 PM

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2016 12:11 PM (5sOEp)

6 Nice Dalmatian.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 31, 2016 12:12 PM (J8/9G)

7 Just posted on another thread -
Suspect there will be another open thread later, guessing no chess thread though.
Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2016 05:10 PM


Why did you think there wasn't going to be a chess thread? Did you think I'd forgotten?

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 12:13 PM (6QnGR)

8 6 Nice Dalmatian. Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 31, 2016 05:12 PM (J8/9G) Bats or butterflies?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 31, 2016 12:13 PM (92kX2)

9 Looks like the two bipeds are thinking of having some Ugandan discussions.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 31, 2016 12:14 PM (J8/9G)

10 Something's wrong in that picture. It must be a time lapse.

Posted by: freaked at December 31, 2016 12:15 PM (BO/km)

11 Nice thread, OM - Thanks!! And thanks for the Hat Tip - Happy New Year!!

Posted by: ibguy at December 31, 2016 12:16 PM (vUcdz)

12 Now I want chestnuts. You can do them in the microwave. But I don't have any.

Posted by: freaked at December 31, 2016 12:17 PM (BO/km)

13 Mayhem >>>> Flo

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 31, 2016 12:19 PM (J8/9G)

14 #11 Happy New Year!

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 12:20 PM (6QnGR)

15 Mr. Cass is thinking "N-i-c-e bustle! If I let her win, maybe we can go for Mama Cass..."

Posted by: Duncanthrax[/i] at December 31, 2016 12:20 PM (DMUuz)

16 1# BxN, if RxB then QxR but if QxB R- c7 pinning Q so QxR and QxQ leaving Q&R vs R&R.so Bxd7, RxB; QxR

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2016 12:20 PM (5sOEp)

17 OM no but thought it was getting late and might have partys to go to .

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2016 12:21 PM (5sOEp)

18 The dog is covered with butterflies. What the heck is up with that?

Posted by: freaked at December 31, 2016 12:23 PM (BO/km)

19 Didn't think this painting was old and it isn't. He paints lots of fantasy paintings with jesters

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2016 12:24 PM (5sOEp)

20 About the painter: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Cheval

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 31, 2016 12:25 PM (J8/9G)

21 17 OM no but thought it was getting late and might have partys to go to .

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2016 05:21 PM (5sOEp)


Heh. It's been years since I've actually gone out partying on NYE. Lately, it's been a quiet dinner at home with Mrs. Muse, perhaps a movie on TV, then to bed early.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 12:25 PM (6QnGR)

22 Sassy!

Posted by: Bigby's Pinkyswear at December 31, 2016 12:26 PM (8ReTf)

23 Smirking Boy Blue there looks like he might be one of Shep Smith's buddies.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 31, 2016 12:26 PM (DW+jj)

24 She looks in season.

Posted by: Pepe at December 31, 2016 12:27 PM (CNkLk)

25 How come, despite the invitation, Checkers is never discussed on these Saturday threads?

Posted by: zombie Richard Nixon at December 31, 2016 12:27 PM (DMUuz)

26 Hah! I have actual chess content for once. I just watched "Bobby Fischer Against The World" with No. 1 Son this week. Quite a good documentary and all full of nostalgia if, like me, you were around 12 at the time of the Spassky match. The problem, though, is the need to rely on observers' accounts of how matches went. I can watch old boxing matches and see exactly how they went. I've seen pretty much all of them. If it's a Tyson fight I've seen it at least twice, if Ali at least five. And I can tell when my opinion of what happened is different from what the announcers think. I can't tell that about chess matches, even if they showed all the moves (which they don't). "This match was fluid. This match was brutally aggressive. This match was restrained and elegant. This opening gambit was startling". It's like having music described to you without being able to hear it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 31, 2016 12:28 PM (mgbwf)

27 annhand.com/products/trump-inaugural-pin in case anybody is looking for a tasteful gift

Posted by: Bigby's Pinkyswear at December 31, 2016 12:28 PM (8ReTf)

28 I looked up the painter too because those faces, to me, looked pretty modern - the cheerfulness, I don't. Usually in the old ones, the people usually appear glum even when smiling. Aha, the artist was born in 1966.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2016 12:29 PM (CFc5L)

29 27 annhand.com/products/trump-inaugural-pin in case anybody is looking for a tasteful gift Posted by: Bigby's Pinkyswear at December 31, 2016 05:28 PM (8ReTf) +++ I saw the price tag. Don't think I'll be buying a slew and handing them out. Wish I could though.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2016 12:31 PM (CFc5L)

30 Wife decided to make sushi. Not sure how that will go with my annual New Years Eve stinky cheese celebration.

Posted by: Max Power at December 31, 2016 12:31 PM (q177U)

31 Alabama cheats as well as the Patriots.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 12:31 PM (GsAUU)

32 Smirking Boy Blue there looks like he might be one of Shep Smith's buddies.///

With what he's staring at I would guess he is friends with
Sir Mix A Lot.

Posted by: Willy J. at December 31, 2016 12:32 PM (W6Ch1)

33 Why is the zombie problem difficult?

None of the pawns can move and the rook cannot take any.  Both the kings are trapped on their side of the pawns.  There is no obvious stalemate.

So black needs to get his king out of the way (to d and then to get his queen to a6 from which there are 3 squares protected by pawns: c4, d3, e2 and the rook can only guard any two of them.  So the black queen can penetrate the white position.

Now white must guard the pawns on a4 and f2 or the black queen can take one of them and then force white to exchange the rook for the passed pawn ...

Can't see any further than that.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 12:34 PM (uqnYW)

34 in case anybody is looking for a tasteful gift Posted by: Bigby's Pinkyswear at December 31, 2016 05:28 PM (8ReTf) This week my daughter sent me the USA/DumbFUCKistan tshirt Kid Rock is selling, then sent me a coffee mug that says "I lubricate my guns with liberal tears." That's Daddy's girl!

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 31, 2016 12:34 PM (QwbmS)

35 Interesting window treatment. Are the pieces on the floor so the butterfly Dalmatian can play?

Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at December 31, 2016 12:35 PM (nQ10o)

36 Somehow d8 got turned into a smiley.

Posted by: Grammar Nazi at December 31, 2016 12:35 PM (uqnYW)

37 30 Max Which cheeses?

Posted by: ibguy at December 31, 2016 12:36 PM (vUcdz)

38 Who is to play on problem 4?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2016 12:36 PM (EzgxV)

39 And the form seems to prefer a different name.

Does anyone know how the submission form works?  I am constantly fighting a rearguard action against it.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 12:37 PM (uqnYW)

40 Alabama cheats as well as the Patriots. --It's hilarious when that happens.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 12:37 PM (GsAUU)

41 Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2016 05:36 PM (EzgxV)

Seems to be white.  Otherwise black can check with the queen but does not appear to have much scope other than possible perpetual check.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 12:38 PM (uqnYW)

42 33 Why is the zombie problem difficult?

None of the pawns can move and the rook cannot take any. Both the kings are trapped on their side of the pawns. There is no obvious stalemate.

So black needs to get his king out of the way (to d and then to get his queen to a6 from which there are 3 squares protected by pawns: c4, d3, e2 and the rook can only guard any two of them. So the black queen can penetrate the white position.

Now white must guard the pawns on a4 and f2 or the black queen can take one of them and then force white to exchange the rook for the passed pawn ...

Can't see any further than that.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 05:34 PM (uqnYW)


I suspect it starts out as an en passant capture....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2016 12:38 PM (EzgxV)

43 36 Somehow d8 got turned into a smiley. Posted by: Grammar Nazi at December 31, 2016 05:35 PM (uqnYW) --Drat! I pasted the wrong comment!

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 12:39 PM (GsAUU)

44 Alabama cheats as well as the Patriots. Posted by: logprof Hmmm. You sound bitter.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at December 31, 2016 12:41 PM (S6Pax)

45 NICE quick kick by Browning.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 12:41 PM (GsAUU)

46 Who is to play on problem 4?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2016 05:36 PM (EzgxV)


Whoops, sorry. White.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 12:43 PM (6QnGR)

47 Mr seems to focused on the Mrs' waist. Or her derrière.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice [/i] [/s] [/b] at December 31, 2016 12:43 PM (J+eG2)

48 I suspect it starts out as an en passant capture....

Posted by: cthulhu at December 31, 2016 05:38 PM (EzgxV)

----

That assumes some evil on OM's part ... you would have to look at that case first and prove it was possible and required.  My idea does not require it and is the only possible line that works by my initial argument.

So now I have to see if your idea is right.  Which will hurt my brain.  I hate you.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 12:44 PM (uqnYW)

49 I like problem 2.

Posted by: fluffy at December 31, 2016 12:45 PM (jw2Xw)

50 No en passant capture is possible.  The only case is the c and d files and the black queen position prevents it.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 12:46 PM (uqnYW)

51 So now I have to see if your idea is right. Which will hurt my brain. I hate you.
Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 05:44 PM (uqnYW)


I don't see any en passant capturing in the solution I'll be cutting and pasting later on. In fact, and this is a hint, I don't see any pawn moves at all.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 12:46 PM (6QnGR)

52 Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 05:46 PM (6QnGR)

There's a solution????

To me it looks like:

1 any K-c8
2 any K-d8
3 any Q-c8
 ...

Let me look again.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 12:49 PM (uqnYW)

53 6 Nice Dalmatian.

Posted by: Kodos the Executioner at December 31, 2016 05:12 PM (J8/9G)

=================

I'd eat him ...

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at December 31, 2016 12:51 PM (mt8X9)

54 Zombie problem, White needs to be careful about Black Queen taking the G3 Pawn.

Posted by: davidt at December 31, 2016 12:51 PM (XoldI)

55 That poor dog has a moth infestation

Posted by: Aggressive Micropenis at December 31, 2016 12:52 PM (tO84G)

56 Oh..... "for white" ... damn.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 12:52 PM (uqnYW)

57 Is that a portrait of the first 3-dimensional chess match?

Posted by: Don Lemon at December 31, 2016 12:55 PM (mt8X9)

58 Wife decided to make sushi. Not sure how that will go with my annual New Years Eve stinky cheese celebration. Posted by: Max Power ------ The Stilton?

Posted by: A nice Wensleydale at December 31, 2016 12:56 PM (eeTCA)

59 Oh .. the cat's eaten it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) types with one eye and one finger at December 31, 2016 12:57 PM (LTHVh)

60 #4 mate in four, right

Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2016 12:58 PM (2RVmA)

61 Curiously, that map doesn't show the Panama Canal.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 31, 2016 12:59 PM (eeTCA)

62 Pawn to Queens level four.

Posted by: Fox 2! at December 31, 2016 01:00 PM (brIR5)

63 Keith Olbermann is a twat. Checkmate.

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein VT at December 31, 2016 01:00 PM (b7fwp)

64 61 Curiously, that map doesn't show the Panama Canal.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 31, 2016 05:59 PM (eeTCA)


Probably wasn't around in Vermeer's day.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 01:01 PM (6QnGR)

65 Nice problems..... I once worked with a guy made something called vinegar pie. No recipe could I ever find for that though. Now to the board.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 31, 2016 01:06 PM (5VlCp)

66 vinegar pie: start with two cups of Hillery's tears...

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein VT at December 31, 2016 01:07 PM (b7fwp)

67 So I am guessing that Merkel is coming up for election soon, eh?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 31, 2016 01:07 PM (92kX2)

68 Mr. Cass and Mrs. Cass She plays chess While he checks out her ass

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 01:08 PM (0mRoj)

69 For the zombie problem, get the rook to H1, protecting F4 with the king until the black queen moves into the A rank, then to G1 taking a stalemate when the black queen advances to A6.

Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2016 01:09 PM (2RVmA)

70 http://allrecipes.com/recipe/12228/vinegar-pie-i/ One I just found. Seems like a pretty darn simple pie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 31, 2016 01:09 PM (92kX2)

71 She plays chess While he checks out her ass Posted by: Insomniac ---------- ...pondering the next move.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 31, 2016 01:11 PM (ZO497)

72 23 Smirking Boy Blue there looks like he might be one of Shep Smith's buddies.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 31, 2016 05:26 PM (DW+jj)


Really? The way he's looking at her derriere, I think he's expecting to get some of that later, perhaps after Mr. Cheval has packed up his paintbrushes and left for the day.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 01:11 PM (6QnGR)

73 http://tinyurl.com/jmmho4r Another by Emeril. This one seems to have more vinegar and more lemon flavor. Maybe like a lemon meringue(sp?) without the meringue?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 31, 2016 01:12 PM (92kX2)

74 Sorry e3 not f4

Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2016 01:13 PM (2RVmA)

75 Last attempt at the zombie problem.  Can white sacrifice the rook to block out the queen?

Sacrifice on c4 does not seem to work.

Perhaps on b5?

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 01:13 PM (uqnYW)

76 Strip chess?

Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2016 01:14 PM (2RVmA)

77 I'm in the drivethru and the dumbass in front of me has an egg mcmuffin for president on his window. I don't even think that idiot was on the ballot here in Ohio.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 01:15 PM (yNOPB)

78 58 Wife decided to make sushi. Not sure how that will go with my annual New Years Eve stinky cheese celebration. Posted by: Max Power ------ The Stilton? Posted by: A nice Wensleydale at December 31, 2016 05:56 PM (eeTCA) Perhaps a Venezuelan Beaver Cheese?

Posted by: Peckish John Cleese at December 31, 2016 01:15 PM (ocw+t)

79 77 I'm in the drivethru and the dumbass in front of me has an egg mcmuffin for president on his window. I don't even think that idiot was on the ballot here in Ohio. Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 06:15 PM (yNOPB) Stupidity knows no border.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 31, 2016 01:15 PM (92kX2)

80 Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2016 06:13 PM (2RVmA)

There is no stalemate if Q-c4 then Qxa4 ... I think.

Also, if the rook is on h1 then the Q can move to c4, d3, e2 with check.

I think the stalemate idea is possibly correct but I can't see a way to force one.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 01:17 PM (uqnYW)

81 PROBLEM ONE:

1. Bxd7

if 1... Rxd7 then 2. Qxb8 and Black is in a world of hurt.

if 1... Qxd7 then 2. Rc7 pins the Queen.  If Black just gives up with 2...Qxc7 then 3. Qxc7+ wins the other rook.


PROBLEM TWO:

1... Rxh4

Threatening 2... Qh2#. White's only solution to that is 2. Nxe5 but then 2... Ng3#.



I'm not good enough to get the rest.

Posted by: @irishmikecomedy at December 31, 2016 01:18 PM (eFFhZ)

82 The expressions on their faces make me think this is a very modern painting.

Posted by: t-bird at December 31, 2016 01:18 PM (29QcC)

83 I think the zombie key is to get the rook to h1, and the king in next to him. That defeats any attempt to sacrifice the black queen to pass a pawn and makes any end around by the black queen result in a stalemate. Have to carefully count those moves.

Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2016 01:18 PM (2RVmA)

84 The painting depicts an early form of 3D chess.

Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2016 01:20 PM (sdi6R)

85 The expressions on their faces make me think this is a very modern painting.

Posted by: t-bird at December 31, 2016 06:18 PM (29QcC)


It is.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 01:20 PM (6QnGR)

86 My strategy is to ensure the opponent's king and queen continue engaging in multigenerational inbreeding, so that all future royalty is crippled by devastating genetic defects and the kingdom collapses from within.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 01:21 PM (0mRoj)

87 Just a few hours left for George Soros to croak in 2016. Just fucking die already, you fuck.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 01:22 PM (GsAUU)

88 The white king has to be at G1 or F1 before the black queen gets to A6. Then any move the black queen makes along that diagonal results in stalemate or a material loss when black loses her queen

Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2016 01:23 PM (2RVmA)

89 Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2016 06:18 PM (2RVmA)

That works if white can get there in 5 moves ... which he can as long as it is his move (OM did not say).  It takes black 5 or 6 moves to get to a6 so let's see:

1 K-d2 K-c8
2 R-c1 K-d8
3 R-h1 Q-c8
4 K-e1 Q-a8
5 K-f1  Q-a6+
6 K-g1 Q-a8 to avoid stalemate

Draw by repetition.

So it works.


Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 01:24 PM (uqnYW)

90 Draw by repetition.
So it works.
Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 06:24 PM (uqnYW)


That's pretty much the solution. Good work.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 01:28 PM (6QnGR)

91 One thing if you played on that carpet games might never end with all that board.

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2016 01:28 PM (5sOEp)

92 87 logprof 2nded!! Tick tock....

Posted by: ibguy at December 31, 2016 01:28 PM (vUcdz)

93 It is a draw by repetition because white can just sit in the corner and any attempt by black to get to a6 is either check followed by stalemate or stalemate immediately.  There is no way to get to a6 "out of phase".

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 01:29 PM (uqnYW)

94 The dalmation's spots are all butterflies

Posted by: MAx at December 31, 2016 01:29 PM (/RZxG)

95 That's pretty much the solution. Good work.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 06:28 PM (6QnGR)


It was jean's work ... I just eliminated anything else, I think.

What does "pretty much" mean?  I think jean supplied any missing details.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 01:30 PM (uqnYW)

96 Dog and Butterfly...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv69q_oeDOk

Posted by: Heart at December 31, 2016 01:31 PM (XoldI)

97 There is no way to get to a6 "out of phase". Posted by: Off the reservation Yep, white can't waste a move though.

Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2016 01:33 PM (2RVmA)

98 It was jean's work ... I just eliminated anything else, I think.What does "pretty much" mean? I think jean supplied any missing details.
Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 06:30 PM (uqnYW)


I didn't do a move-by-move comparison, but it looks right.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 01:35 PM (6QnGR)

99 In the Z problem white is penned but black Queen can get into whites backfield to start making some headway. I wish I had a computer to put that in and have a go.

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2016 01:35 PM (5sOEp)

100 white can't waste a move though


Clock management is key.

Posted by: Grump928(C) types with one eye and one finger at December 31, 2016 01:38 PM (LTHVh)

101 Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 06:35 PM (6QnGR)

It's interesting that the solution is so precise.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 01:38 PM (uqnYW)

102 Gotta cheer for Clemson in this one.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 01:38 PM (GsAUU)

103 Posted by: Grump928(C) types with one eye and one finger at December 31, 2016 06:38 PM (LTHVh)

LOL

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 01:39 PM (uqnYW)

104 Zombie Problem What is the best line of play for White? This is a tough problem for zombie, our resident master. Let's see what he can do with it. I'll post the solution with the others in an hour or two, even though I don't understand it well enough to comment on it. Holy cow! A problem for me. And I just swung by to look at the headlines. In this case, the pawns are all locked up so that it seems on the surface that neither side can do anything. Kings can't get through. And neither can the queen or rook. However, if white does something really really stupid, like tie up his king + R in the most awkward way possible, then maybe black could play eventually Qh4!! saccing itself to force the creation of a passed pawn, which would then queen, but be BEHIND the pawn chain, and thus eat everything up and win. BUT...white need not allow this. All he has to do is put his rook on the back rank and that Q-sac would never work. HOWEVER, I just noticed that black DOES have a way to break through, though it takes many moves -- get his out of the way to, like, e7, then play Qc8 - a8 - a6! and suddenly he's emerged into white's position. So how can that be stopped? Well, the only possible way, it seems, is to sac the rook on b5, at the premise correct moment, and maybe the K + Ps can create a blockage at the ppint and keep the black Q out. But it seems pretty unlikely. White's king does not have triangulation space, and black has all the tempo-losers he needs with his own king. So if we visualize many moves int he future some kind of position with the black Q on c8, and white goes 1. Rb5 Pxb5 2. Pxb5 Qa8 3. Ka4! -- but it doesn't work! Becuase blakc then makes a random king move, and white's king must retreat, after which black plays a4 and busts through. So my cursory analysis is: white loses! Ugh! But I do not have time to look deeper than that!

Posted by: zombie at December 31, 2016 01:43 PM (jBuUi)

105 >> Really? The way he's looking at her derriere, I think he's expecting
>> to get some of that later

  It's that over the top outfit he's wearing. My God. And he's likely not looking at her butt, he's probably admiring the dress, and wishing he could wear one.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 31, 2016 01:44 PM (DW+jj)

106 Endgame.

There seems to be a win for white by playing B-e7 so black must not take the bishop and must try to keep forcing white to block his own pawn.

But the zombie problem did me in.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 01:44 PM (uqnYW)

107 get his out of the way = get his KING out of the way to

Posted by: zombie at December 31, 2016 01:44 PM (jBuUi)

108 I'm thinking Mrs. Cass is ripe for another kind of portrait in Vermeer's interior bedroom.

Posted by: Fritz at December 31, 2016 01:44 PM (nrkHK)

109 It's interesting that the solution is so precise.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 06:38 PM (uqnYW)


That's most likely because it's a study as opposed to a position from an actual game.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 01:45 PM (6QnGR)

110 87; extradite him to russia for war crimes first. i want that fucker to die in a gulag.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2016 01:45 PM (KP5rU)

111 miss lindsey has a pair of shoes just like that nancyboy in that painting.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2016 01:47 PM (KP5rU)

112 That's most likely because it's a study as opposed to a position from an actual game.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 06:45 PM (6QnGR)


Of course ... I suppose the positions of the king and rook are adjusted carefully once the main idea is found.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 01:51 PM (uqnYW)

113 Hillary Rodham Clinton will never be President of these United States of America. Happy 2017!

Posted by: Cheap Champagne FTW at December 31, 2016 01:51 PM (cJDvr)

114 I figurted it out! takes six move for the black Q to get to a6. So..... 1. Kd2!! Kc8 2. Rc1! Kd8 3. Rh1!! Qc8 4. Ke1! Qa8 5. Kf1!! Qa6+ 6. Kg1!!!!! And the only way for black to NOT stalemate white is to retreat to a8 -- and then white draws by shuffling king from f1 and g1. The only only conceivable move is then 6. ... Qb5?? and then white does have a legal move - -to take the queen 7. PxQ a4 8. Kf1 a3 9. Ke1 a2 10. Kd2!!! and wins!!!! So it is a draw, since black wouldn't do that!

Posted by: zombie at December 31, 2016 01:52 PM (jBuUi)

115 110 87; extradite him to russia for war crimes first. i want that fucker to die in a gulag. Posted by: chavez the hugo If Soros is anywhere near Russia, he's dead. I'm hoping for rendition to Maylasia due to the existing death sentence; and when I'm in a gracious mood he dies in a cockroach infested cell, when I'm in a bad mood he gets beaten to death on the tarmac.

Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2016 01:52 PM (2RVmA)

116 terror attack at Turkish nightclub in Istanbul.

Posted by: @pointsnfigures at December 31, 2016 01:53 PM (Cgudb)

117 67 So I am guessing that Merkel is coming up for election soon, eh? Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 31, 2016 06:07 PM (92kX2) in the spring, IIRC.

Posted by: Fox 2! at December 31, 2016 01:55 PM (brIR5)

118 Posted by: zombie at December 31, 2016 06:52 PM (jBuUi)

Can't get to b5 ... already stalemate.

I think.


Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 01:56 PM (uqnYW)

119 Reports are Queen Elizabeth will miss New Year's Day church service tomorrow.  She also missed Christmas services for the first time in forever.  I sure hope she holds on.  She's a great gal, and that son of hers is a dope.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 01:56 PM (dFi94)

120 115: either scenario would be o.k. by me. that cancer of society needs to be gone.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2016 01:57 PM (KP5rU)

121 I have trouble trusting anything coming out of Turkey anymore.

Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2016 01:57 PM (2RVmA)

122 110 chavez Also acceptable.

Posted by: ibguy at December 31, 2016 01:58 PM (vUcdz)

123 110. No more gulag - things are different now. But Russian prisons are still hell on earth. He'd be dead of tb or pneumonia in a month, assuming the other convicts didn't kill him first, once they found out who he was.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at December 31, 2016 01:58 PM (0ey7W)

124 Around 50 people have been injured after two gunmen opened fire in a nightclub in Istanbul, according to reports. Armed police are on the scene at the Reina club in the Turkey's biggest city

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 01:58 PM (dFi94)

125 121 I have trouble trusting anything coming out of Turkey anymore. Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2016 06:57 PM (2RVmA) Not even stuffing?

Posted by: josephistan at December 31, 2016 01:58 PM (7qAYi)

126 119: grammie your descrition of charles is way to charitable. he's a drooling buffoon. a poofter.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2016 01:59 PM (KP5rU)

127 Solutions up

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 01:59 PM (6QnGR)

128 Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 06:56 PM (dFi94)

He'll outlive her anyway.

I always wonder whether it would have been better for her to retire at 65, before he got so crazy ... and setting the precedent for him to retire at the same age ... which, I believe he has already reached.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 02:00 PM (uqnYW)

129


It is understood that two gunmen, believed to be dressed in Santa costumes, opened fire inside the Reiner nightclub in the Turkish capital's Ortakoy district, CNN Turk reports. 

Armed police are surrounding the bar, one of the most popular nightclubs in the heart of Istanbul, and Turkey's NTV reports that ambulances have been sent to the scene.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:00 PM (dFi94)

130 127 Solutions up Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 06:59 PM (6QnGR) Yay! I got it right!

Posted by: zombie at December 31, 2016 02:00 PM (jBuUi)

131 126 119: grammie your descrition of charles is way to charitable. he's a drooling buffoon. a poofter. Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2016 06:59 PM (KP5rU) One of the RN's great traditions, according to WSC.

Posted by: Fox 2! at December 31, 2016 02:00 PM (brIR5)

132 129 grammie Darned Lutherans!!!

Posted by: ibguy at December 31, 2016 02:01 PM (vUcdz)

133 grammie your descrition of charles is way to charitable. he's a drooling buffoon. a poofter.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2016 06:59 PM (KP5rU)

==================================



I was going to call him a brain-dead imbecile, but then I remembered today's a holiday.


Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:01 PM (dFi94)

134 128 Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 06:56 PM (dFi94) He'll outlive her anyway. I always wonder whether it would have been better for her to retire at 65, before he got so crazy ... and setting the precedent for him to retire at the same age ... which, I believe he has already reached. Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 07:00 PM (uqnYW) She may have left instructions to the 00 branch.

Posted by: Fox 2! at December 31, 2016 02:01 PM (brIR5)

135 124. Good Lord.....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at December 31, 2016 02:02 PM (0ey7W)

136 135 Uncle P That's no god....

Posted by: ibguy at December 31, 2016 02:02 PM (vUcdz)

137 Darned Lutherans!!!

Posted by: ibguy at December 31, 2016 07:01 PM (vUcdz)

================================



It would be nice if we rounded up some armed Christians and started another Crusade.  I think we're about due.


Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:03 PM (dFi94)

138 127 Solutions up

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 06:59 PM (6QnGR)


Thanks.

On problem 3, I found N-e6 but I thought that B-e6 might also work ( I think I found one solution ) so I gave up trying to find 5 solutions.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 02:03 PM (uqnYW)

139 OK, anything at 170deg is ok

Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2016 02:04 PM (2RVmA)

140 I know I've got some chocolate covered almonds here somewhere.  Dang if I can find them.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:05 PM (dFi94)

141 LMAO the Clemson Tiger mascot always makes me chuckle with those stoned-looking eyes.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 02:05 PM (GsAUU)

142 It is understood that two gunmen, believed to be dressed in Santa costumes, opened fire inside the Reiner nightclub in the Turkish capital's Ortakoy district, CNN Turk reports. Armed police are surrounding the bar, one of the most popular nightclubs in the heart of Istanbul, andTurkey's NTV reports that ambulances have been sent to the scene. Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 07:00 PM (dFi94) --Ankara is Turkey's capital, not Istanbul.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 02:06 PM (GsAUU)

143 Off to dinner and a small family party with the angel-clan. Be well, Horde, amd Happy New Year! S' novim godom!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at December 31, 2016 02:07 PM (0ey7W)

144 Brattleboro calls on Presdent Obama to do something about that computer attack thing that would have shut off electruicty in Brattleboro. This is probably in retaleiation Bush or Trump had planned against Putin and Rusha.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT (Soon to be Obamaboro, VT) at December 31, 2016 02:07 PM (Fbj4h)

145 I'm not sure whether I like this multi-split screen view of the Fiesta Bowl or not. It's interesting.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 02:08 PM (GsAUU)

146 Have fun Uncle Palpatine!  and Happy New Year to you

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:08 PM (dFi94)

147 Mary Cloggenstein seems to have begun hitting the Vanilla extract early.

Posted by: Fox 2! at December 31, 2016 02:08 PM (brIR5)

148 Watson picked off early.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 02:09 PM (GsAUU)

149 119 Reports are Queen Elizabeth will miss New Year's Day church service tomorrow. She also missed Christmas services for the first time in forever. I sure hope she holds on. She's a great gal, and that son of hers is a dope. Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 06:56 PM (dFi94) ++++ He really is. Hope she by-passes Charles and gives the crown to Harry or the other one. Can't remember who's the oldest. Do the world a favor, Queen Elizabeth, nix-say on the son. Please. Thank you.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2016 02:09 PM (CFc5L)

150 Interception!

Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 02:09 PM (cAnNx)

151 Well don't that beat all get out on the Z problem.

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2016 02:10 PM (5sOEp)

152 140: had to take wife in to urgent care this morning. eyes swelled shut, lips looked like she went 10 rounds with ali. her hands were itching so bad, it was driving her crazy. seems after 60 years she's developed an allergic reaction to nuts. weird.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2016 02:10 PM (KP5rU)

153 Found the almonds.  They're terrible.  Mom must have had them left over from last year.  Yuck.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:10 PM (dFi94)

154 MSM: Russians shut down the power grid!
/heard that tonight on CBS radio

Reality: Unnamed sources say malware that might be from Russia found on laptop not connected to grid.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 31, 2016 02:10 PM (beK/c)

155 chavez - is she ok now?  How strange!

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:10 PM (dFi94)

156 Can't remember who's the oldest. Do the world a favor, Queen Elizabeth, nix-say on the son. Please. Thank you.
---

William is the heir
Harry is the spare

/what must it  be like knowing your purpose in life is to be a spare in case your older brother dies?

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 31, 2016 02:12 PM (beK/c)

157 mary is smoking her old, crusty socks again i see.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2016 02:12 PM (KP5rU)

158 He really is. Hope she by-passes Charles and gives the crown to Harry or the other one. Can't remember who's the oldest. Do the world a favor, Queen Elizabeth, nix-say on the son. Please. Thank you. Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2016 07:09 PM (CFc5L) --Apparently there are royal/Parliamentary means to skip Chuckie and go straight to William. I'm not a Brit but I support that move. Oh, and on Milo's last podcast, a speech at Minnesota State, he called Harry "the only hot ginger in the world" and made no bones about the fact that he doens't think Chuckie is Harry's dad.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 02:12 PM (GsAUU)

159
Oh, and on Milo's last podcast, a speech at Minnesota State, he called Harry "the only hot ginger in the world" and made no bones about the fact that he doens't think Chuckie is Harry's dad.
---

Ummm... good for Harry? RE: both things?

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 31, 2016 02:13 PM (beK/c)

160 http://allrecipes.com/recipe/12228/vinegar-pie-i/ One I just found. Seems like a pretty darn simple pie. Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 31, 2016 06:09 PM (92kX2) Thanks A#1!.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 31, 2016 02:13 PM (5VlCp)

161 155: getting better. they gave her a shot and presribed some steroids to take. seem to be helping.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2016 02:13 PM (KP5rU)

162 I like Harry.  He's be a cool King.   Charles reminds me of John Kerry.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:14 PM (dFi94)

163 Found the almonds. They're terrible. Mom must have had them left over from last year. Yuck.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 07:10 PM (dFi94)


Are you and the Rev going out to paint the town red tonight?

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 02:14 PM (6QnGR)

164 Not sure why ESPN did not use this split screen for the Peach Bowl but they're using it now. The running stats are pretty cool.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 02:15 PM (GsAUU)

165 158 He really is. Hope she by-passes Charles and gives the crown to Harry or the other one. Can't remember who's the oldest. Do the world a favor, Queen Elizabeth, nix-say on the son. Please. Thank you. Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2016 07:09 PM (CFc5L) --Apparently there are royal/Parliamentary means to skip Chuckie and go straight to William. I'm not a Brit but I support that move. Oh, and on Milo's last podcast, a speech at Minnesota State, he called Harry "the only hot ginger in the world" and made no bones about the fact that he doens't think Chuckie is Harry's dad. Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 07:12 PM (GsAUU) Of course Britain is fucked and so they won't skip prince tampon.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 02:15 PM (cAnNx)

166 chavez - I'm glad she's doing better.  It's just weird that all of a sudden she would be allergic to nuts. 

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:15 PM (dFi94)

167 Although the evening is young I've already given 2016 the one-fingered salute is it heads toward the door.

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 31, 2016 02:16 PM (s7hQ/)

168 166; doctor told her it can happen anytime. it was strange.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2016 02:17 PM (KP5rU)

169 Ummm... good for Harry? RE: both things? Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 31, 2016 07:13 PM (beK/c) --Maybe not the latter, since Milo was making the point that he thought Diana was a slut. Harry definitely exhibits a lot of the behaviors of a middle child.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 02:17 PM (GsAUU)

170 Man, I'd like a couple of those cat heads in the SideBar but they're over $5grand.

Posted by: Grump928(C) types with one eye and one finger at December 31, 2016 02:18 PM (LTHVh)

171 Are you and the Rev going out to paint the town red tonight?

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 07:14 PM (6QnGR)

=========================



I wish.  There's a New Year's Eve cruise on Lake Geneva tonight.  I think it might be the last cruise of the season.  No, I'm home with kids and fiances of kids coming and going.  He's doing church service for probably 4 people who will actually come.  Him, the sound guy, the usher, and the acolyte.  They're all having church for each other.


Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:18 PM (dFi94)

172 Hello, Horde. I have to go DJ a New Year's Eve party tonight, so before I go, I want to wish all you a safe, enjoyable evening and a good year ahead. Here's to the HQ, where the 'ettes are always beautiful and the 'rons are always... ... ... ...uh, present?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 31, 2016 02:21 PM (rJUlF)

173 Clemson on the board first, 3-0

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 02:21 PM (GsAUU)

174 If they wanted to make Harry king, he'd have to get rid of the previously divorced actress, who has nude photos of herself in public, who he is dating now.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 31, 2016 02:22 PM (FQKBL)

175 Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 31, 2016 07:21 PM (rJUlF) --Have fun at the party, Captain!

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 02:22 PM (GsAUU)

176 Captain Whitebread - Being a DJ on New Year's Eve sounds fun!  Don't drink too much and forget to play Achy Breaky Heart.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:23 PM (dFi94)

177 How old is Mary? Ten? The spelling--my God.

Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at December 31, 2016 02:23 PM (nQ10o)

178 But Harry is the younger of two.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 31, 2016 02:23 PM (FQKBL)

179 174 If they wanted to make Harry king, he'd have to get rid of the previously divorced actress, who has nude photos of herself in public, who he is dating now. Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 31, 2016 07:22 PM (FQKBL) --There's one example of middle child behavior.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 02:24 PM (GsAUU)

180 He's doing church service for probably 4 people who will actually come. Him, the sound guy, the usher, and the acolyte. They're all having church for each other.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 07:18 PM (dFi94)


Heh. That reminds me of that Ingmar Bergman movie 'Winter Light'. Last scene of the movie, the minister, Max Von Sydow, gets up in front of the church to do the service and literally nobody is there. So he starts the service, anyway and that is how the movie ends.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 02:24 PM (6QnGR)

181 And it's much better to go to Milo's YouTube page and watch his campus speeches than to listen to the podcast if you can. Then you get to see his outrageous outfits, his slides and see the stupid SJWs that attempt to disrupt the event. Also check out the little feature they made of his infiltration of the protest at MSU "behind enemy signs"

Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 02:24 PM (cAnNx)

182 It would be nice if we rounded up some armed Christians and started another Crusade. I think we're about due. Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 07:03 PM (dFi94) That crusade is coming, it's just gonna start right here in the good old US and A.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 31, 2016 02:25 PM (SfoZN)

183 The Russkies hacked The Big Bang Theory's scripts and that's why they suck.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 31, 2016 02:25 PM (Nwg0u)

184 Oh, and on Milo's last podcast, a speech at Minnesota State, he called Harry "the only hot ginger in the world" and made no bones about the fact that he doens't think Chuckie is Harry's dad.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 07:12 PM (GsAUU)


There has almost certainly been a paternity test.

But whether or not it has been publicly acknowledged or the result made public, I don't know.  Snopes surely has an opinion ;-)

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 02:26 PM (uqnYW)

185 But Harry is the younger of two.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 31, 2016 07:23 PM (FQKBL)

======================



Yeah, we'd have to tie up both Charles and William and throw them in a dungeon somewhere.  They're probably knee-deep in dungeons.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:26 PM (dFi94)

186 178 But Harry is the younger of two. Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 31, 2016 07:23 PM (FQKBL) --That's true, but I think he's more like a middle: kind of rebellious and fuck-it-all, but within boudaries, and also sociable.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 02:27 PM (GsAUU)

187 172 Hello, Horde. I have to go DJ a New Year's Eve party tonight, so before I go, I want to wish all you a safe, enjoyable evening and a good year ahead. Here's to the HQ, where the 'ettes are always beautiful and the 'rons are always... ... ... ...uh, present? Posted by: Captain Whitebread at December 31, 2016 07:21 PM (rJUlF) If there is outrageous behavior there tonight the ONT will expect stories tonight or tomorrow

Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 02:27 PM (cAnNx)

188
--Maybe not the latter, since Milo was making the point that he thought Diana was a slut.
--

Read Diana's biography. If even half of it is true, the family she married into is really dysfunctional. Scary dysfunctional.

She also had her own emotional problems that were made worse by the situation; those were never addressed. So I certainly can't call her a slut, and from a genetic standpoint, if Charles is not the father, Harry might be better off.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 31, 2016 02:27 PM (beK/c)

189 The Tower of London is a popular choice for imprisoning royals.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 31, 2016 02:28 PM (FQKBL)

190 The Fake News told me today the Russians hacked a power plant in Vermont! But then the Fake News, almost as side note, admitted that all that happened in Vermont is THAT A SINGLE LAPTOP AT THE POWER STATION WAS INFECTED WITH MALWARE. But that didn't stop WashPoo and the cable Fake News from telling the world that Russians Hacked A US Power Plant.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 02:28 PM (BaDGg)

191 2016 was actually a pretty good year for us: The Cubs won the World Series! The Bitch of Benghazi was denied her Precious. Castro is roasting in hell. The Cubs won the pennant! My daughter broke up with her moon-bat boyfriend. We've been blessed with good health. The Cubs won the most games in the MLB! And did I mention it? Hillary Clinton will never be President of the United States!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 31, 2016 02:28 PM (Nox3c)

192 183: that's what happened. i could never watch more than 30 seconds of that sewage. just like two broke girls, can't believe that shit is still on the air.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2016 02:29 PM (KP5rU)

193 You know how once in a while you'll go to a website and a popup ad will appear? Yeah, that's probably what happened.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 02:29 PM (BaDGg)

194 Yeah, we'd have to tie up both Charles and William and throw them in a dungeon somewhere. They're probably knee-deep in dungeons.
---

"Tower of London."

/they won't even have to leave town!

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 31, 2016 02:29 PM (beK/c)

195 Margarita - I love your list!  Especially 1, 4 and 7!

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:30 PM (dFi94)

196 Istanbul governor says at least 35 killed in Istanbul nightclub attack At least 35 people were killed and 40 wounded when an attacker opened fire on New Year's revelers at a nightclub in Istanbul on Sunday, Istanbul Governor Vasip Sahin told reporters. The attacker shot a police officer and a civilian as he entered the club in the Ortakoy district of Istanbul before opening fire inside the building, Sahin said, in what he described as a terrorist attack. Let me guess the MFM will say it's a Trump supporting, white supremacist, Christian who hates Muslims

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 31, 2016 02:31 PM (auHtY)

197 So an employee at this power plant in Vermont went to a webiste he shouldn't have went to. And he got the laptop infected with malware. So now it's a big hoax/coverup and a national story that the Russians "hacked" a US power plant.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 02:31 PM (BaDGg)

198 190; so, what you're saying is, some rube from vermont was surfing for midget porn? on a wndows machine?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2016 02:31 PM (KP5rU)

199 Watching the Clemson/Ohio game at home with only 2 beers. Have to get up at 0400 for work early next year.

Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2016 02:32 PM (zLDYs)

200 Hey it's 2nd and 18. Lets empty the backfield and do a designed run! Brilliant!

Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 02:33 PM (cAnNx)

201 Ah gee, relative is home for the holidays.  Relative has to go back to Turkey and surrounding areas at the end of the week.  I constantly in fear for said relative.  A year and a half more, then home for good, please God.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:33 PM (dFi94)

202 The Cubs won the World Series! The Bitch of Benghazi was denied her Precious. Castro is roasting in hell. The Cubs won the pennant! My daughter broke up with her moon-bat boyfriend. We've been blessed with good health. The Cubs won the most games in the MLB! And did I mention it? Hillary Clinton will never be President of the United States! Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 31, 2016 07:28 PM (Nox3c) --Don't forget Brexit.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 02:33 PM (GsAUU)

203 196 Let me guess the MFM will say it's a Trump supporting, white supremacist, Christian who hates Muslims Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 31, 2016 07:31 PM (auHtY) I propose an amendment to the AoSHQ Style Guide: That henceforth all references to the MSM or MFM will be replaced by FNM.

Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2016 02:33 PM (sdi6R)

204 just like two broke girls, can't believe that shit is still on the air. Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2016 07:29 PM (KP5rU) It's much more entertaining with the sound off.

Posted by: josephistan at December 31, 2016 02:33 PM (7qAYi)

205 What's up with the Buckeyes kicker?

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 02:34 PM (GsAUU)

206 Let me guess the MFM will say it's a Trump supporting, white supremacist, Christian who hates Muslims.
---

"Heartbroken Turk, learning that his poor undocumented relatives in the US are going to be deported tomorrow, lashed out against the only way he could against rich Trump supporting Americans in a decadent Western nightclub celebrating the ruin of his family."

Posted by: The MSM at December 31, 2016 02:35 PM (beK/c)

207 To make Harry king, they'd have to get rid of Will and Kate's two little kids as well, since they are now ahead of Harry in the line of succession.

 They changed the rules a while back before Kate gave birth that would eliminate male-preference and if a girl was first born, she'd be the prime heir, and any other girls would follow the birth order, rather than all being last in line along that level. But it was only for new births. Everyone else was grandfathered in.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 31, 2016 02:35 PM (DW+jj)

208 205 What's up with the Buckeyes kicker? Going to have to stop watching for a while. I feel so bad for him! Go Bucks!

Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at December 31, 2016 02:36 PM (nQ10o)

209 204: if i want to see boobs, i don't have to watch cbs. thinking about deleting them from my tvs once football is over.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2016 02:36 PM (KP5rU)

210 "Nightclub incident in Eurasian city; motive unknown."

Posted by: The MSM at December 31, 2016 02:36 PM (beK/c)

211 QuietMan beat me to the bad news, of festivities provided by the Religion of Peace to mark the new year, many dead in Istanbul. Lions of Islam, they always seem drawn to defenseless children, and defenseless adults in entertainment venues. Very impressive.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 31, 2016 02:37 PM (QDnY+)

212 It might have had one of those phishing emails on it. May not have been even responded to. That's what it sounded like to me.

Posted by: freaked at December 31, 2016 02:37 PM (BO/km)

213 Oregon Muse - I've played one chess game with my new chess set! It took a friggin' hour and a half because I don't know what I'm doing, and it was against my 16 yo son who I found out has been playing chess at his buddy's house down the street since he was 5. He beat me, but I made him work for it. He was very patient with me. I actually put him in check twice without even realizing it (but he did); that's how unobservant I am. I have to do some reading for sure before I can tackle any of your problems. I don't even have the faintest idea what all that stuff means, meaning the description of the moves and the gobbledy-gook at the bottom of the boards (but I know what to do with that because you kindly tell us each week). Anyway, I will be a work in progress for a long time, once I get started.

Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2016 02:38 PM (sBOL1)

214 202--Don't forget Brexit. Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 07:33 PM (GsAUU) --------------------------- Indeed!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 31, 2016 02:38 PM (Nox3c)

215 The greatest things that happened to me in 2016:


1.  The Cubs won the World Series.  You have no clue how happy that made me.  Possibly the single happiest event in my life.  No lie.

2.  Trump defeated the Beast.

3.  Oh yeah I got married.


And praise God, my whole family is alive and well and walking with the Lord.  My mom is 80 today.  She looks like a million bucks.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:38 PM (dFi94)

216 Re. The sidebarr I think it's very nice that Margaret Thatcher gave you a cocoa butter, hand job, Ace. I didn't realize that Margaret Thatcher was a manicurist on the side. Perhaps if you had paid her some more money she would have painted your nails as well. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2016 02:38 PM (tOcW/)

217 --Don't forget Brexit.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 07:33 PM (GsAUU)


I'm going to have a similar list in the book thread tomorrow. To which I will include Gawker being sued into non-existence.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 02:39 PM (6QnGR)

218 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 31, 2016 07:35 PM (DW+jj)

George for king.  Harry as regent.

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 02:39 PM (uqnYW)

219 That's true, publius. But both George and Charlotte are too young to rule, so they could make Harry a regent for Prince George. In which case, bonnets, high-waisted dresses, cravats, and Jane Austen would come back into fashion.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 31, 2016 02:39 PM (FQKBL)

220 TD Clemson

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 02:39 PM (GsAUU)

221 I'm at work. What happened re: the Buckeyes kicker?

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 31, 2016 02:40 PM (SfoZN)

222 202 The Cubs won the World Series! The Bitch of Benghazi was denied her Precious. Castro is roasting in hell. The Cubs won the pennant! My daughter broke up with her moon-bat boyfriend. We've been blessed with good health. The Cubs won the most games in the MLB! And did I mention it? Hillary Clinton will never be President of the United States! Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 31, 2016 07:28 PM (Nox3c) --Don't forget Brexit. Posted by: logprof
The Pittsburgh Penguins won the Stanley Cup. :-)

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 31, 2016 02:40 PM (pY+s4)

223 And praise God, my whole family is alive and well and walking with the Lord. My mom is 80 today. She looks like a million bucks.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 07:38 PM (dFi94)


All green and wrinked?

(Ouch! Ouch! I was kidding! Can't you take a joke? Ouch!)

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 02:40 PM (6QnGR)

224 201 Ah gee, relative is home for the holidays. Relative has to go back to Turkey and surrounding areas at the end of the week. I constantly in fear for said relative. A year and a half more, then home for good, please God. Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 07:33 PM (dFi94) ++++ Yikes. Prayers for your relative's well-being and safe return.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2016 02:40 PM (CFc5L)

225 207 To make Harry king, they'd have to get rid of Will and Kate's two little kids as well, since they are now ahead of Harry in the line of succession. That can be arranged.

Posted by: Zombie Richard III at December 31, 2016 02:41 PM (7qAYi)

226 Also, I think chess pie is called that because it was described as "'just pie," meaning a plain pie, not apple or chocolate, etc. "Just" got changed to "chess" over the years. So says my cookbook, anyway. (And, I'm pretty sure zombie is a she, not a he.) (But I know an Oregon Muse is a he, not a she.)

Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2016 02:41 PM (sBOL1)

227 Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 07:33 PM (dFi94)

My daughter is in Israel for two more weeks ...

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 31, 2016 02:41 PM (uqnYW)

228 Greatest things that happened to me in 2016 Got to meet and become friends with the pastor who followed me in the interim assignment I had I got to meet and work with the wonderful seminary student. I have had the blessing of attending services at the Orthodox Church on Saturday night and becoming friends with the Rector and his wife. FenSpouse and I have have made more time to pray in the morning.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2016 02:42 PM (tOcW/)

229 MSM: Russians shut down the power grid! /heard that tonight on CBS radio Reality: Unnamed sources say malware that might be from Russia found on laptop not connected to grid. Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 31, 2016 07:10 PM (beK/c) First they stole all of our ballots and filled them in with Trump's name and now they shutting off our power!!! Barry needs to expel more Russians. That will show them!1!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 31, 2016 02:42 PM (auHtY)

230 Go Tigers!

Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2016 02:42 PM (zLDYs)

231 221 I'm at work. What happened re: the Buckeyes kicker? Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 31, 2016 07:40 PM (SfoZN) --He has missed two makeable field goals in a row.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 02:43 PM (GsAUU)

232 35 dead in that terror attack in Turkey. When will enough be enough? Don't answer. Between now and never, I know.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2016 02:43 PM (CFc5L)

233 And praise God, my whole family is alive and well and walking with the Lord. My mom is 80 today. She looks like a million bucks. Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 07:38 PM (dFi94) ------------------- a) Your mom is young! b) I can easily believe she looks like a million (non green, non wrinkled) bucks ever since I saw your beautiful wedding day picture. The apple didn't fall far from the tree, I suspect.

Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2016 02:44 PM (sBOL1)

234 I'm ashamed I even know this crap, but the line of succession is

Chuckles
William
George
Charlotte
Harry
Andrew

    And then Andrew's two daughters, Tweeldee and Tweedle dum. Then Elizabeth's other son, his kids and then so on.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at December 31, 2016 02:44 PM (DW+jj)

235 No party to go to tonight. I'm sure the Russians hacked my social life!

Posted by: josephistan at December 31, 2016 02:45 PM (7qAYi)

236 All green and wrinked?

(Ouch! Ouch! I was kidding! Can't you take a joke? Ouch!)

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 07:40 PM (6QnGR)

==========================



We all went to dinner last night to celebrate my mom's birthday - about twenty of us.  The waitress knew we were setting up for a party and I told her it was for my mom's 80th. We all arrived and I told the waitress she could begin with drinks, etc.  She says "But wheres' your mom?"  I said, "She's right there".  Waitress thought I was joking.  She started arguing with me that my mom could not possibly be 80!



Yeah, she's still got it.  Plays a good game of golf too.


Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:45 PM (dFi94)

237 234: do they have a dental plan?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2016 02:45 PM (KP5rU)

238 The Pittsburgh Penguins won the Stanley Cup. :-) Posted by: Puddleglum at December 31, 2016 07:40 PM (pY+s4) *GROAN*

Posted by: logprof, Jets Fan at December 31, 2016 02:46 PM (GsAUU)

239 234: do they have a dental plan? Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2016 07:45 PM (KP5rU) From the looks of it dentistry is outlawed in England

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 31, 2016 02:48 PM (auHtY)

240 Bluebell - you are too sweet!  Mom used to be a dress model for some local department stores back in the 50's.  I have old clippings of her in poodle skirts, or fancy dresses with hats and gloves.  She has good genes.  My grandma was drop dead movie star gorgeous.


Me?  I take after my dad's side of the family.  Fat Swedish peasants.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:48 PM (dFi94)

241 235: probably the jooooos. the russians are busy harshing mary's buzz today. sad part is mary makes as much sense as the alphabet news channels. they think just like her.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 31, 2016 02:49 PM (KP5rU)

242 a) Your mom is young! b) I can easily believe she looks like a million (non green, non wrinkled) bucks ever since I saw your beautiful wedding day picture. The apple didn't fall far from the tree, I suspect. Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2016 07:44 PM (sBOL1) ++++ She is a beauty. And the Rev is a handsome devil. Can I say that?

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2016 02:49 PM (CFc5L)

243 I'm at work. What happened re: the Buckeyes kicker? Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 31, 2016 07:40 PM (SfoZN) --He has missed two makeable field goals in a row. Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 07:43 PM (GsAUU) The Russians hacked his leg

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 31, 2016 02:50 PM (auHtY)

244 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2016 07:42 PM (tOcW/)
============================


I bet the Orthodox priest would like a Cubs WS shirt.  I have several hundred.  I could send him one. 

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:50 PM (dFi94)

245 "I have idea why it's called chess pie" The story I heard was that somebody asked the cook what kind of pie she had made, she said 'it's just pie' in a heavy southern accent, everybody thought she'd said 'it's chess pie', and the name stuck. No idea if that's actually true.

Posted by: jic at December 31, 2016 02:51 PM (049Xj)

246 And then Andrew's two daughters, Tweeldee and Tweedle dum. - I say we give it to the Andrews Sisters. He was a famous trumpet man from out Chicago way He had a boogie style that no one else could play He was the top man at his craft But then his number came up and he was gone with the draft . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, This Is the Dawning of the Age of the Trumpius! at December 31, 2016 02:51 PM (Nwg0u)

247 wahrivergal - thank you for your kind words.  And yes, you can call Rev any name you like.   Heaven knows I do.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:51 PM (dFi94)

248 The Hardest Job in Sports-- Being a Cleveland Browns Cheerleader http://bit.ly/2hFHzT4

Posted by: Ginger, lime, vodka at December 31, 2016 02:53 PM (cJDvr)

249 Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 07:50 PM (dFi94) You just want o get rid of some shirts, don't you? ;^) I don't know what sports teams he supports. We usually spend more time talking about theology or the ministry.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2016 02:54 PM (tOcW/)

250 I didn't see any wedding pictures of Grammie and the Rev. Darn!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2016 02:55 PM (tOcW/)

251 Fireworks legal today/tonight in my county. How awesome is that? Not, too.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2016 02:56 PM (CFc5L)

252 The Know's wrap-up of 2016, wherein many game-developers screwed the pooch mightily: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZPHYUpcrxo

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 31, 2016 02:56 PM (6FqZa)

253 We usually spend more time talking about theology or the ministry.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2016 07:54 PM (tOcW/)

==============================



Speaking of which, I have a theologically-related issue that is bothering me. I'll ask you about it another time though, since it's New Years Eve.



I hope 2017 is a wonderful, healthy year for you Fenelon.  And your family too.


Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 02:56 PM (dFi94)

254 Hhhmmmmm..... Last time I had a chess player give me such a sultry come hither look, she castled me.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 31, 2016 02:56 PM (0tfLf)

255 Just got here. Anyone around familiar with Microsoft office 10 chess?

Posted by: teej at December 31, 2016 02:57 PM (gJ3Vg)

256 Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 07:56 PM (dFi94) Thanks; Same to you and yours.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2016 02:58 PM (tOcW/)

257 Also, I think chess pie is called that because it was described as "'just pie," meaning a plain pie, not apple or chocolate, etc. "Just" got changed to "chess" over the years. So says my cookbook, anyway.

(And, I'm pretty sure zombie is a she, not a he.)

(But I know an Oregon Muse is a he, not a she.)
--

RE: pie, that makes total sense. Never knew that.

RE: Zombie, I think she is a she is well.

RE: Oregon Muse... how do you know?


Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 31, 2016 02:58 PM (beK/c)

258 Browns fans take heart. Tomorrow you will play Pittsburgh's practice squad. You gotta chance!!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 31, 2016 02:58 PM (pY+s4)

259 250 I didn't see any wedding pictures of Grammie and the Rev. Darn! Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2016 07:55 PM (tOcW/) +++ Maybe she'll put them up again. They make a gorgeous couple. Plus it is nice to put faces with names. But I know most are reluctant to, me included.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2016 02:58 PM (CFc5L)

260 publius, I mainly know the royal succession order because I'm interested in Queen Victoria. She had uncles and male cousins, but she was the daughter of the next-eldest son after King William died, so she inherited. However, a younger male cousin kept the throne of Hanover, because women could not inherit there.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 31, 2016 02:59 PM (FQKBL)

261 Fenelon - Here's the Christmas card I made for the Horde.  This is minus the Rev since I don't dare risk them de-frocking him because of me:


http://bit.ly/2hXulx9


I'll take it down in a bit because of the Russians



Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 03:01 PM (dFi94)

262 He's blowin' revele He's the boogie woogie bugle boy from company B

Posted by: teej at December 31, 2016 03:01 PM (gJ3Vg)

263 25 years ago tonight I was at the Tokyo Dome at a Metallica/Europe concert. Fucking awesome it was. They did Last Caress/Green Hell as an encore. Bitchin. Now that I think about it, it was 14 hours ago today, 25 years ago.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 31, 2016 03:03 PM (R5EqA)

264 It rubs the lotion on its scepter...

Posted by: Prince Charles of Tampon at December 31, 2016 03:04 PM (Tyii7)

265 Spanish colonies??? All my money's in tulip futures!

Posted by: zombie paul krugman sr. x 20 at December 31, 2016 03:04 PM (lJXY3)

266 RE: Oregon Muse... how do you know? Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 31, 2016 07:58 PM (beK/c) ------------------- I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2016 03:05 PM (sBOL1)

267 20 years ago today I retired from the Navy.

Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2016 03:06 PM (zLDYs)

268 Me? I take after my dad's side of the family. Fat Swedish peasants. Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 07:48 PM (dFi94) ------------ Yeah, nope. Remember, I saw the picture. You are certainly not fat, and you're certainly not a peasant. As for the Skandi stuff, well, you got me there.

Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2016 03:07 PM (sBOL1)

269 Clemson picked off again. Hard to believe they're winning.

Posted by: logprof, Jets Fan at December 31, 2016 03:07 PM (GsAUU)

270 267 20 years ago today I retired from the Navy. Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2016 08:06 PM (zLDYs) I was in the Navy when I went to that concert. USS Fife DD-991 in Yokosuka.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 31, 2016 03:08 PM (R5EqA)

271 269 Clemson picked off again. Hard to believe they're winning. Posted by: logprof, Jets Fan at December 31, 2016 08:07 PM (GsAUU) And now you'll see OSU go pass, qb run, pass behind the line of scrimmage and understand why.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 03:09 PM (cAnNx)

272 Browns fans take heart. Tomorrow you will play Pittsburgh's practice squad. You gotta chance!!! Same with the Titans. The Texans got their berth already and have real no reason to show up at all. So Houston is benching its more-ouchy players and sending in the B Team.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 31, 2016 03:09 PM (6FqZa)

273 Thanks for puttin' that up grammie. I hadn't seen it. Now I can see you sayin' things like... Ball One!! Cubs Win!! And ...in the history of things happening.

Posted by: teej at December 31, 2016 03:10 PM (gJ3Vg)

274 Brattleboro wants to wish Presdent Obama and Micheal Obama a Happy Newt Year. We love you and will miss you and hopes that idiot Trump does not screw everything up like Bush did !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT (Soon to be Obamaboro, VT) at December 31, 2016 03:10 PM (Fbj4h)

275 ABUSE THE BUGLE BOY OF COMPANY B

Posted by: CARTER THE U.S.M. at December 31, 2016 03:11 PM (6FqZa)

276 Holy shit they gave the ball to Weber on first down.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 03:11 PM (cAnNx)

277 Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 08:01 PM (dFi94) You look lovely. Why would they defrock him because of that picture?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2016 03:13 PM (tOcW/)

278 We are off to our neighbor's house for the evening. Happy New Year to all of you. From the first reading at Mass tonight: "May the Lord bless you and keep you. May the Lord let His face shine upon you, and be gracious to you. Maya the Lord look upon you kindly and give you peace." God bless, and keep you all safe, and a happy, healthy 2017 to all.

Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2016 03:14 PM (sBOL1)

279 Now I can see you sayin' things like...

Ball One!! Cubs Win!!
And
...in the history of things happening.

Posted by: teej at December 31, 2016 08:10 PM (gJ3Vg)

================



Ha! 


Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 03:15 PM (dFi94)

280 Brattleboro wants to wish Presdent Obama and Micheal Obama a Happy Newt Year. We love you and will miss you and hopes that idiot Trump does not screw everything up like Bush did !!!!!!!! Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT (Soon to be Obamaboro, VT) at December 31, 2016 08:10 PM (Fbj4h) fnord (Fbj4h) Sock fail. A real Cloggenstein wouldn't "hope" "Idiot" Trump wouldn't screw it up, they would be wailing about how the Nazis secretly took over the US and sold out to the Russians, and we're all headed for the camps.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at December 31, 2016 03:15 PM (wB8Tg)

281 Why would they defrock him because of that picture?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2016 08:13 PM (tOcW/)

====================



The first time, I accidently put up the wrong picture - one with me and Rev both.  He was mortified.  Poor man.  He was afraid that someone from the congregation might stumble across Ace and see that we hung out with folks called Masterbatin' Pete and Charlie Brown's - well, you know.  So I took him down out of pity. 

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 03:18 PM (dFi94)

282 280 A real Cloggenstein wouldn't "hope" "Idiot" Trump wouldn't screw it up, they would be wailing about how the Nazis secretly took over the US and sold out to the Russians, and we're all headed for the camps. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 31, 2016 08:15 PM (wB8Tg) It's the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact all over again.

Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2016 03:18 PM (sdi6R)

283 Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 08:15 PM (dFi94) Very nice. Can we see a pic of your mom now?

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 31, 2016 03:18 PM (D2vc1)

284 Happy New Year Bluebell!!!  Have a wonderful evening!

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 03:19 PM (dFi94)

285 Great QB keeper.

Posted by: logprof, Jets Fan at December 31, 2016 03:21 PM (GsAUU)

286 Nazis secretly took over the US and sold out to the Russians, and we're all headed for the camps. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith They were going to ship us to the camps on an electric train until the Russians hacked the grid.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 31, 2016 03:21 PM (IqV8l)

287 Close game predicted! Oddsshark has Broncos favored, predicting 23-20 over the hurting Raiders.

Posted by: Ginger, lime, vodka at December 31, 2016 03:21 PM (cJDvr)

288 Can we see a pic of your mom now?

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 31, 2016 08:18 PM (D2vc1)

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Shush.  That my mom you're talking about there mister.


Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 03:22 PM (dFi94)

289 So, anybody have big New Years Eve party plans? NYE's never been a big deal to me, so I'm just hanging at home.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 03:22 PM (0mRoj)

290 It's the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact all over again. Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2016 08:18 PM (sdi6R) fnord (sdi6R) Or the Molotov-Cocktail Pact (hic).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at December 31, 2016 03:22 PM (wB8Tg)

291 Mrs. Cass exhibits a fondness for multipurpose textiles.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 31, 2016 03:22 PM (tHwdc)

292 And you know Watson could stay another year at Clemson if he wanted.

Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2016 03:22 PM (zLDYs)

293 see that we hung out with folks

Gotta go where the sinners are.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at December 31, 2016 03:22 PM (8J/Te)

294 226 Also, I think chess pie is called that because it was described as "'just pie," meaning a plain pie, not apple or chocolate, etc. "Just" got changed to "chess" over the years. So says my cookbook, anyway. Posted by: bluebell at December 31, 2016 07:41 PM (sBOL1) Note to self: never order the "just meat."

Posted by: Splunge at December 31, 2016 03:23 PM (iMxBJ)

295 The first time, I accidently put up the wrong picture - one with me and Rev both. He was mortified. Poor man. He was afraid that someone from the congregation might stumble across Ace and see that we hung out with folks called Masterbatin' Pete and Charlie Brown's - well, you know. So I took him down out of pity. Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 08:18 PM (dFi94) Many a pearl would be clutched and couches fainted upon, eh?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 03:23 PM (0mRoj)

296 Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 08:18 PM (dFi94) LOL. O.K. I understand. Nobody knows I post here except my husband and son. I don't really want to tell other clergy about this place. I just refer to it as a place I post on the internet.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2016 03:23 PM (tOcW/)

297 Great TD catch!!!

Posted by: logprof, Jets Fan at December 31, 2016 03:23 PM (GsAUU)

298 We'll grammie I for one am glad he doesn't have a congregation full of sinners.

Posted by: teej at December 31, 2016 03:24 PM (gJ3Vg)

299 So, anybody have big New Years Eve party plans? NYE's never been a big deal to me, so I'm just hanging at home. Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj) fnord (0mRoj) I used to always work over NYE, so I never developed a taste for the celebration. Also not big on drinking or partying, though I occasionally have a drop, and oddly I like dance music (but hate dancing and crowds). The thing about introverts is that we don't really have places to meet, and if we did, we wouldn't go there because it would be too crowded.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at December 31, 2016 03:24 PM (wB8Tg)

300 282 It's the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact all over again. Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2016 08:18 PM (sdi6R) What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Hoare-Laval Pact at December 31, 2016 03:25 PM (iMxBJ)

301 wow Gloria Estefan is a blimp

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 03:25 PM (BaDGg)

302 I think Clemson is going to win. Ohio state is obsessed with making Barrett the hero and they should be giving Weber the ball a lot more.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 03:26 PM (cAnNx)

303 I have a service to do tomorrow. There was no way I was going to any party tonight, plus I worry about nuts on the road.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2016 03:26 PM (tOcW/)

304 287 Close game predicted! Oddsshark has Broncos favored, predicting 23-20 over the hurting Raiders. Posted by: Ginger, lime, vodka at December 31, 2016 08:21 PM (cJDvr) --The Raiders definitely have it tough without Carr. The X Factor, though, is that the Raiders still have something to play for, while the Broncos do not --and may rest some of their dinged players (and at Week 17, everyone is dinged).

Posted by: logprof, Jets Fan at December 31, 2016 03:27 PM (GsAUU)

305 The thing about introverts is that we don't really have places to meet, and if we did, we wouldn't go there because it would be too crowded. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 31, 2016 08:24 PM (wB8Tg) Heh. That's about right. There really need to be places that introverts could congregate, but it would need to be quiet and facilitate one-on-one or very small group interactions. Not sure what that would look like.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 03:27 PM (0mRoj)

306 Evenin' Folks.

Posted by: Catwrangler at December 31, 2016 03:27 PM (n5l0F)

307 301 wow Gloria Estefan is a blimp Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 08:25 PM (BaDGg) Ooh, yeah my bad. I prescribed too many Krispy Kremes.

Posted by: Dr. Beat at December 31, 2016 03:27 PM (iMxBJ)

308 Many a pearl would be clutched and couches fainted upon, eh?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 08:23 PM (0mRoj)

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Not to mention the walkers tipped over and the wheelchairs rolled backwards.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 03:28 PM (dFi94)

309 Shush. That my mom you're talking about there mister. Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 08:22 PM (dFi94) Yeah, I know. Pics now please.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 31, 2016 03:28 PM (D2vc1)

310 The thing about introverts is that we don't really have places to meet, and if we did, we wouldn't go there because it would be too crowded. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith Sounds like Yogi Berra.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 31, 2016 03:28 PM (IqV8l)

311 grammie, I once directed a pretty strong Evangelical guy, who was also fairly politically conservative, to this website. The top post at that time had something about the barbed cock of Satan, and Evangelical guy took off running.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 31, 2016 03:28 PM (FQKBL)

312 305 Heh. That's about right. There really need to be places that introverts could congregate, but it would need to be quiet and facilitate one-on-one or very small group interactions. Not sure what that would look like. Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 08:27 PM (0mRoj) I think you just described a chess club.

Posted by: Splunge at December 31, 2016 03:28 PM (iMxBJ)

313 wow Christmas is really in the rearview mirror, eh? The time just goes by so fast. Hate it.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 03:28 PM (BaDGg)

314 So, anybody have big New Years Eve party plans? NYE's never been a big deal to me, so I'm just hanging at home. Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj) I work til 11, then might drop by a friends' house if they're still up.

Posted by: Country Boy - stay deplorable my friend at December 31, 2016 03:29 PM (D2vc1)

315 303 I have a service to do tomorrow. There was no way I was going to any party tonight, plus I worry about nuts on the road. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2016 08:26 PM (tOcW/) Me too. The crunching is disconcerting and I really hate prying the shells out the tire treads the next day.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 03:29 PM (0mRoj)

316 So, anybody have big New Years Eve party plans? NYE's never been a big deal to me, so I'm just hanging at home. Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj) fnord (0mRoj) Nothing changes on New Year's Day. https://youtu.be/VlQpvy6w49w

Posted by: U2 at December 31, 2016 03:29 PM (GsAUU)

317 Speaking of nuts... This is how many Nuts I had this Christmas: 0 No walnuts. No filberts. Not even peanuts.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 03:30 PM (BaDGg)

318 Does anyone have any pictures of Presdent Obama and Micheal Obama celllerating the holidays ??? Please post them because all of us in Brattleboro would love to see them !!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT (Soon to be Obamaboro, VT) at December 31, 2016 03:30 PM (Fbj4h)

319 I have a friend in Alcoholics Anonymous. He describes people who get drunk on New Years Eve as "amateurs."

Posted by: Splunge at December 31, 2016 03:30 PM (iMxBJ)

320 Insomniac and Merovign, ever read Conan Doyle's description of the Diogenes Club, founded in part by one Mycroft Holmes? Sherlock states:

There are many men in London, you know, who, some from shyness, some from misanthropy, have no wish for the company of their fellows. Yet they are not averse to comfortable chairs and the latest periodicals. It is for the convenience of these that the Diogenes Club was started, and it now contains the most unsociable and unclubbable men in town. No member is permitted to take the least notice of any other one. Save in the Stranger's Room, no talking is, under any circumstances, allowed, and three offences, if brought to the notice of the committee, render the talker liable to expulsion. My brother was one of the founders, and I have myself found it a very soothing atmosphere.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 31, 2016 03:31 PM (FQKBL)

321 316 So, anybody have big New Years Eve party plans? NYE's never been a big deal to me, so I'm just hanging at home. Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj) fnord (0mRoj) Nothing changes on New Year's Day. https://youtu.be/VlQpvy6w49w Posted by: U2 at December 31, 2016 08:29 PM (GsAUU) True. Tomorrow you will still suck.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 03:31 PM (cAnNx)

322 OMG! The Colonel is wearing breeches and riding boots, and has a zhupan and papakha. The man's gone full cossack. We're gonna dance for the family, burn joss, amd shoot off pistols and firearms at midnight. Best New Year's eve since the last one.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at December 31, 2016 03:31 PM (0ey7W)

323 He was afraid that someone from the congregation might stumble across Ace and see that we hung out with folks called Masterbatin' Pete and... As Jesus said, "Let he who has not been hacked by the Russians cast the first stone."

Posted by: t-bird at December 31, 2016 03:31 PM (TqmC9)

324 Heh. That's about right. There really need to be places that introverts could congregate, but it would need to be quiet and facilitate one-on-one or very small group interactions. Not sure what that would look like. Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 08:27 PM (0mRoj) fnord (0mRoj) Greenland.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at December 31, 2016 03:32 PM (wB8Tg)

325 Just hangin' at home here too. Used to be I played every new years eve. Always a very good paying gig local band wise. We don't play around the holidays. Gary and Steve spend em with the families and I'm glad they have em.

Posted by: teej at December 31, 2016 03:32 PM (gJ3Vg)

326 The top post at that time had something about the barbed cock of Satan, and Evangelical guy took off running.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 31, 2016 08:28 PM (FQKBL)

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Laughing my head off!  Ha - when I first started posting here (when LGF was starting to go all wonky)  I thought no way can I post on such a profane site.  Then I got over it.  LOL - I don't know what that says about me.  I rarely bat an eye anymore.  I think it's because 99.9% of the people here just really have a good good heart.  That's what matters.



But yeah - I can see Evangelical guy running


Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 03:33 PM (dFi94)

327
The thing about introverts is that we don't really have places to meet, and if we did, we wouldn't go there because it would be too crowded.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 31, 2016 08:24 PM (wB8Tg)



That's why we meet here.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 31, 2016 03:33 PM (tHwdc)

328 314 So, anybody have big New Years Eve party plans? NYE's never been a big deal to me, so I'm just hanging at home. Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 08:22 PM (0mRoj) Me either. I had a couple of friends for dinner last night and it was pleasant. I spent much of the afternoon waiting for the AT&T dude to show up as my modem crapped out and I was without the Internets for the day. I did not react like the stupid family on the U-Verse commericial. I cleaned and read a book.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 31, 2016 03:33 PM (P8951)

329 Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 08:29 PM (0mRoj) ;^) You know there really is some way you could work these clever one liners into an act and take it on the road. It would also make you more likely to be a little more extroverted because you would be in front of people.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2016 03:33 PM (tOcW/)

330 Wow, first time the Buckeyes have been shut out in the first half in five years.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 03:34 PM (GsAUU)

331 Three Stooges marathon is on. and The Twilight Zone marathon is on??

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 03:34 PM (BaDGg)

332 270 267 20 years ago today I retired from the Navy. Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2016 08:06 PM (zLDYs) I was in the Navy when I went to that concert. USS Fife DD-991 in Yokosuka. Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 31, 2016 08:08 PM (R5EqA) The next year I had Shore Patrol. That sucked.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 31, 2016 03:35 PM (R5EqA)

333 But yeah - I can see Evangelical guy running Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 08:33 PM (dFi94) And who can blame him?. He just wanted to put as much distance as her could between himself and the "barbed c**k of Satan. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2016 03:35 PM (tOcW/)

334 This is how many Nuts I had this Christmas: 0

No walnuts. No filberts. Not even peanuts.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 08:30 PM (BaDGg)



Are you allergic?  Chavez the hugo had to rush his wife to the ER today for a sudden out of the blue nut allergy.


Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 03:35 PM (dFi94)

335 Being fenced in in Times Square for hours with no booze and no porta-pottys would be a punishment for me, not fun.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 31, 2016 03:35 PM (P8951)

336 There are some parallels between Thailand and England. The Thai King died this year, 90 +/-. Much loved by Thais. The Prince, now king, is hated by many. Spoiled playboy, once had a Thai singer kicked out of Thailand because the Prince was after his girlfriend. Seems like royalist in both countries were hoping to outlive designated heirs.

Posted by: The Real Bruce at December 31, 2016 03:36 PM (Qr8dA)

337 I showed Putin!

Posted by: POTUS Barry at December 31, 2016 03:36 PM (bc2Lc)

338 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 31, 2016 08:24 PM (wB8Tg) I'm an extrovert but we always stay home New Years. I think it may be from the years I was a waitress. I call New Years beginners night. Plus, we're getting old.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 31, 2016 03:37 PM (Q5Ymk)

339 The Hardest Job in Sports--
Being a Cleveland Browns Cheerleader
http://bit.ly/2hFHzT4

Posted by: Ginger, lime, vodka at December 31, 2016 07:53 PM (cJDvr)


OK, this is funny. Somebody needs to send it to AtC.

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 03:38 PM (6QnGR)

340 There are many men in London, you know, who, some from shyness, some from misanthropy, have no wish for the company of their fellows. Yet they are not averse to comfortable chairs and the latest periodicals. It is for the convenience of these that the Diogenes Club was started, and it now contains the most unsociable and unclubbable men in town. No member is permitted to take the least notice of any other one. Save in the Stranger's Room, no talking is, under any circumstances, allowed, and three offences, if brought to the notice of the committee, render the talker liable to expulsion. My brother was one of the founders, and I have myself found it a very soothing atmosphere. Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 31, 2016 08:31 PM (FQKBL) Heh. That's a great time for people who don't mind being around other people - as long as they don't have to talk to them.

Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&&and so there at December 31, 2016 03:38 PM (P8951)

341 Jats got their butts kicked. *SIGH*

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 03:39 PM (GsAUU)

342 Chavez the hugo had to rush his wife to the ER today for a sudden out of the blue nut allergy. Really? That's frightening. What the hell is going on with these nut allergies!?!? Weird how an adult can turn adverse to a nut.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 03:39 PM (BaDGg)

343 There are many men in London, you know, who, some from shyness, some from misanthropy, have no wish for the company of their fellows. Yet they are not averse to comfortable chairs and the latest periodicals. It is for the convenience of these that the Diogenes Club was started, and it now contains the most unsociable and unclubbable men in town. No member is permitted to take the least notice of any other one. Save in the Stranger's Room, no talking is, under any circumstances, allowed, and three offences, if brought to the notice of the committee, render the talker liable to expulsion. My brother was one of the founders, and I have myself found it a very soothing atmosphere. Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 31, 2016 08:31 PM (FQKBL) I like this.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 03:39 PM (0mRoj)

344 Wrote about it last year that in 1979/80 New years in Scotland there was a mid-evil banquet then weng to the Royal Mile in Edinburgh. Being the lightest I sat up on my 2 mates shoulders and kissed the girls up on their mates drinking slugs of scotch

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2016 03:40 PM (5sOEp)

345


Just hangin' at home here too.
Used to be I played every new years eve. Always a very good paying gig local band wise.
We don't play around the holidays. Gary and Steve spend em with the families and I'm glad they have em.

Posted by: teej at December 31, 2016 08:32 PM (gJ3Vg)


Hey teej!  Please tell Gary to keep my song on the List.  Wish I could hear you guys play.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 31, 2016 03:41 PM (tHwdc)

346 Apropos of nothing: Cuba and North Korea aren't Communist countries. They're Hereditary Monarchies in everything but name, and with better propaganda. And hereditary monarchies in the mold of Czarist Russia.

Posted by: Hugh Jorgen at December 31, 2016 03:41 PM (R5EqA)

347 301 wow Gloria Estefan is a blimp Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 08:25 PM (BaDGg) --And she's an O-tard knob-polisher.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 03:41 PM (GsAUU)

348 I keep looking for that game where I get to do problem #2 on someone. Fat chance! haha! Anyhow, happy new year to all here.

Posted by: goon at December 31, 2016 03:42 PM (EaQ6/)

349 289 So, anybody have big New Years Eve party plans? NYE's never been a big deal to me, so I'm just hanging at home. Posted by: Insomniac
I'm at work. I actually have work to do but I'm procrastinating. Mmmmmm, procrastinating.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 31, 2016 03:42 PM (pY+s4)

350 Story on murders in Turkey by guy dressed as Santa at LegalInsurrection

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2016 03:42 PM (5sOEp)

351 have no wish for the company of their fellows. Yet they are not averse to comfortable chairs and the latest periodicals. ...and the company of others. I have a theory that some people like to be around others to stave off loneliness but don't really want to INTERACT with others.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 03:42 PM (BaDGg)

352 This is cool. U2's 'New Year's Day' as the soundtrack to the Battle of the Bulge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuU-QmPIKs0

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 03:44 PM (6QnGR)

353 Well, I didn't write that description; Conan Doyle did. You certainly get the result of being around fellow humans without the stressful interactions.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 31, 2016 03:45 PM (FQKBL)

354 Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 31, 2016 08:31 PM (FQKBL) fnord (FQKBL) Yeah, that's kind of an extrovert's understanding of introversion. I like being around people. Just not too many, and not all the time. It would also make you more likely to be a little more extroverted... Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 31, 2016 08:33 PM (tOcW/) fnord (tOcW/) Maybe I can get taller by going to basketball games, too.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at December 31, 2016 03:45 PM (wB8Tg)

355 Tomorrow is also the Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 03:45 PM (GsAUU)

356 Before I became a vampire of sorts (I hate the Sun and any bright light) I used to love going to the beach. I used to love the Sun, the heat, and the salt water. One day it occurred to me, as I was laying on a crowded beach, that here we are, many people, so close to each other, almost naked, and yet none of us interact with each other. I never felt so alone yet surrounded by so many as when I went to the beach in the Summer.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 03:45 PM (BaDGg)

357 The Twilight Zone marathon is on??
Yup, Its on.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 31, 2016 03:46 PM (pY+s4)

358 Chavez the hugo had to rush his wife to the ER today for a sudden out of the blue nut allergy.

Posted by: grammie winger at December 31, 2016 08:35 PM (dFi94)


I developed an out-of-the-blue allergy to NSAIDS.  Never had an allergy in my life before that.


Now, no anti-inflammatory options for me.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 31, 2016 03:46 PM (tHwdc)

359 Well, I didn't write that description; Conan Doyle did. Who? Well, whoever he is really shouldn't endeavor a future in writing. He stinks.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 03:47 PM (BaDGg)

360 Does anyone have any pictures of Presdent Obama and Micheal Obama celllerating the holidays ??? Please post them because all of us in Brattleboro would love to see them !!!! Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT (Soon to be Obamaboro, VT) at December 31, 2016 08:30 PM (Fbj4h) They aren't together. She's at an all you can eat place shoveling food into her piranha like mouth and Barry well he's getting other things in his mouth

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 31, 2016 03:47 PM (auHtY)

361 I didn't see any wedding pictures of Grammie and the Rev. Darn! Posted by: FenelonSpoke I did. She's a hottie and the Rev. is younger and dashinger than you'd expect tacked to the nick "grammie".

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 31, 2016 03:47 PM (mgbwf)

362 335 Being fenced in in Times Square for hours with no booze and no porta-pottys would be a punishment for me, not fun. Posted by: Donna di deplorable ampersands&&&∧ so there at December 31, 2016 08:35 PM (P8951) ++++ Some people embrace and relish the crowd, the party atmosphere. I ain't one of them. Give me warmth and a chair.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2016 03:48 PM (CFc5L)

363 It's like going to a bar at the lowest point in your life and the last thing you want is to be around people! You'd think one would just buy a bottle and be alone. But they choose a bar. Why? Because they don't really want to be alone...but they want to be left alone.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 03:48 PM (BaDGg)

364 352 This is cool. U2's 'New Year's Day' as the soundtrack to the Battle of the Bulge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuU-QmPIKs0 Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 08:44 PM (6QnGR) --Heh, it's kinda cool because it resembles the original video for the song.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 03:49 PM (GsAUU)

365 Now, no anti-inflammatory options for me. Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 31, 2016 08:46 PM (tHwdc) fnord (tHwdc) Ick. Have you looked up anti-inflammatory foods? Not anything like drugs in effectiveness, of course, and always be skeptical. There's a lot of good "natural medicine," but a lot of bad, and the research is kind of crap, sadly.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at December 31, 2016 03:49 PM (wB8Tg)

366 I did. She's a hottie and the Rev. is younger and dashinger than you'd expect tacked to the nick "grammie". Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 31, 2016 08:47 PM (mgbwf) ++++ It's all been a ruse and we've been snookered goodly.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2016 03:50 PM (CFc5L)

367 --And she's an O-tard knob-polisher. Yeah she used to be quite likable and somewhat conservtive (especially regarding Cuba) compared to other famous celerys. But during Bush she, like many others, turned into a shithead.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 03:50 PM (BaDGg)

368 362 Some people embrace and relish the crowd, the party atmosphere. Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2016 08:48 PM (CFc5L) I enjoy that sort of atmosphere, up to a point of crowding where it feels less like "party" and more like "mob waiting to be born." Times Square at New Years looks as though it's well past that point.

Posted by: Splunge at December 31, 2016 03:50 PM (iMxBJ)

369 I'm an introvert too, Merovign, so I totally get it. I just thought it was a somewhat apropos group, even if it doesn't fit 100 percent.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 31, 2016 03:50 PM (FQKBL)

370 Hello All ! Happy New Year. Santa in Turkey on Dec. 31st. No one finds that odd ? Did he get lost on his way to the North Pole ?

Posted by: seamrog at December 31, 2016 03:51 PM (K1np9)

371 We stopped by the local family restaurant about an hour ago for a quick dinner so it was sort of like having New Year's Eve plans. Except we were the only people in the restaurant besides the people working there and a guy at the bar waiting for a to-go order.

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2016 03:51 PM (Sfs6o)

372 Well, I'm going to go to Wally World, and get me some grub for dinner. I have enough rum and cola and beer to tide me over. Just sit home and hang with the Horde, I guess. And I need light bulbs. Another of my 300-watters bit the dust. They sure do light up a room.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 31, 2016 03:52 PM (MiBfH)

373 305 The thing about introverts is that we don't really have places to meet, and if we did, we wouldn't go there because it would be too crowded.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 31, 2016 08:24 PM (wB8Tg)

Heh. That's about right. There really need to be places that introverts could congregate, but it would need to be quiet and facilitate one-on-one or very small group interactions. Not sure what that would look like.
---

I believe it's  called the ONT.

Also, for the very, very adventurous introvert, there's the Moron Meetups.

/how many Morons are in the Detroit/ Toledo area? I don't think there's even been a meetup in the area.

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 31, 2016 03:52 PM (beK/c)

374 I enjoy that sort of atmosphere, up to a point of crowding where it feels less like "party" and more like "mob waiting to be born." Times Square at New Years looks as though it's well past that point. Posted by: Splunge at December 31, 2016 08:50 PM (iMxBJ) ++++ Is any alcohol allowed at this gala?

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2016 03:52 PM (CFc5L)

375 Just saw a headline news story screaming "Trump Ditches Press!"

Was hoping it was an announcement that it would be for the remainder of his Presidency, but turns out it was just for a golf outing in Florida ...

Posted by: ShainS at December 31, 2016 03:53 PM (mt8X9)

376 Give me warmth and a chair. Posted by: washrivergal Like the kitten at the top of the pet thread.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 31, 2016 03:54 PM (IqV8l)

377 I'm almost afraid to ask. What's a blue nut allergy ?

Posted by: seamrog at December 31, 2016 03:55 PM (K1np9)

378 Just saw a post on Fb from Old Sailor's Poet. 2016 has claimed another. Father Mulcahy (William Christopher) from MASH has passed.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at December 31, 2016 03:55 PM (wHJ0y)

379 Also, for the very, very adventurous introvert, there's the Moron Meetups. This probably happens at all of them, but Ace remarked one time that everyone was on their phones or tablets (internet) even while they were all gathered together!

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 03:55 PM (BaDGg)

380 I'm not an introvert, just a misanthrope.

Posted by: Grump928(C) types with one eye and one finger at December 31, 2016 03:55 PM (LTHVh)

381 Like the kitten at the top of the pet thread. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 31, 2016 08:54 PM (IqV8l) ++++ 'Sept I don't want to sit on your key-board.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2016 03:55 PM (CFc5L)

382
Ick. Have you looked up anti-inflammatory foods? Not anything like drugs in effectiveness, of course, and always be skeptical.

There's a lot of good "natural medicine," but a lot of bad, and the research is kind of crap, sadly.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 31, 2016 08:49 PM (wB8Tg)


I generally avoid sugars (this season excepted), but that's the extent of my efforts.  The worst was when I gave myself a nasty case of lateral epicondylitis (aka tennis elbow) stacking cordwood the day after Mr. D's funeral.  I was in a state, and wailed on that woodpile.


The next day I couldn't pick up a cup of coffee.  Took over a year to resolve, at the loss of a lot of upper-body strength.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 31, 2016 03:55 PM (tHwdc)

383 >> Santa in Turkey on Dec. 31st. No one finds that odd ? Not really. Orthodox Christmas is Jan 7th.

Posted by: Ginger, lime, vodka at December 31, 2016 03:55 PM (cJDvr)

384 Actually, *the* St. Nicholas was from Turkey, when it was called Asia Minor.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 03:56 PM (GsAUU)

385 I'm an introvert too, Merovign, so I totally get it. I just thought it was a somewhat apropos group, even if it doesn't fit 100 percent. Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at December 31, 2016 08:50 PM (FQKBL) fnord (FQKBL) Ehh, I'm just kind of used to people treating introverts like "you should take a pill for that."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at December 31, 2016 03:56 PM (wB8Tg)

386 375 Just saw a headline news story screaming "Trump Ditches Press!" Was hoping it was an announcement that it would be for the remainder of his Presidency, but turns out it was just for a golf outing in Florida ... Posted by: ShainS at December 31, 2016 08:53 PM (mt8X9) Those press folks sure do like their prerogatives. Read an article in which presstitutes tried to justify their hysteria about Trump leaving them behind to have dinner with the family. Near as I could tell, their biggest gripe is that if he got shot, they wouldn't get it on camera.

Posted by: Splunge at December 31, 2016 03:56 PM (iMxBJ)

387 I always hated NYE, I was always alone, went out with friends but I never had a date and envied those that got a kiss on NYE, then in 2000 on a family trip a friend and Nurse that was traveling with my Dad and I always had a crush on said she liked me more than a friend and planted a big kiss on me, I think my Dad was in on it and we have been together ever since. Our first Date was the Orange Bowl. I had given up, for those alon on NYE never give up.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 31, 2016 03:56 PM (dKiJG)

388
This probably happens at all of them, but Ace remarked one time that everyone was on their phones or tablets (internet) even while they were all gathered together!
--

There is this solution:

"Fight fire with fire. Text them a little message. Something like You lose or Your husband is hitting on me or a picture from your phone...of them staring at their phone."

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 31, 2016 03:56 PM (beK/c)

389 Heh, I was just yankin' your tail Muley,,, I mean Miley. I imagine there's a pretty good chance we'll do that one though we don't always. And we did talk about making a couple of videos this year. Probably be at least summer before they're done though. And probably won't be released till after Thanksgiving next year. The song for that one is "There's a Christmas Tree on Main Street." Also going to video/record a gig or two this year. If the recording quality is good enough maybe utube a few songs off of em.

Posted by: teej at December 31, 2016 03:57 PM (gJ3Vg)

390 But we in it shall be remember'd; We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that blogs with me Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, This day shall gentle his condition: And gentlemen in the free world now a-bed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That commented with us upon New Year's Eve.

Posted by: NaCly Dog [/i] at December 31, 2016 03:57 PM (u82oZ)

391 solution #2 to phones at a party:

"If none of the above works, collect everyone's phone in a shoebox when they enter the party. Assure your guests that 'phones in a box' is not an update version of 'car keys in the bowl' swinger parties from the seventies. On second thought, don't assure them."

Posted by: shibumi, a deplorable who is tired of dealing with crazy people at December 31, 2016 03:58 PM (beK/c)

392 I like being around people. Just not too many, and not all the time. Absolutely. I can't deal with large groups, even it's a group of people I know. I'm cool with one-on-one or with a small number of people, preferably that has at least one person in it that I already know. Put me in a room packed with strangers and I'm out of there in short order.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 03:58 PM (0mRoj)

393
This probably happens at all of them, but Ace remarked one time that everyone was on their phones or tablets (internet) even while they were all gathered together!

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 08:55 PM (BaDGg)


Wouldn't happen with me - don't own one.  I like to be where I'm at.  Except when I'm home and I'm here instead.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 31, 2016 03:59 PM (tHwdc)

394 The next day I couldn't pick up a cup of coffee. Took over a year to resolve, at the loss of a lot of upper-body strength. Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 31, 2016 08:55 PM (tHwdc) fnord (tHwdc) Sucks. I hope we make it more better than worse when we get around to redesigning these meatsacks. It would sure be nice not to have bits *fail* all the time.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at December 31, 2016 03:59 PM (wB8Tg)

395 Was hoping it was an announcement that it would be for the remainder of his Presidency, but turns out it was just for a golf outing in Florida ... Posted by: ShainS at December 31, 2016 08:53 PM (mt8X9) --Won't it be great to have a President who golfs on his own courses, instead of spending taxpayer money on his outings?

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 03:59 PM (GsAUU)

396 Orthodox Christians Celebrate Christmas in January.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 31, 2016 04:00 PM (dKiJG)

397 I don't think it's possible anymore to separate people from the phones today. I went through a metal detector a while ago and had to hand over my phone for a minute. I couldn't believe how reluctant and uncomfortable I was to part with it. My phone = My Lifeforce!

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 04:00 PM (BaDGg)

398 Ehh, I'm just kind of used to people treating introverts like "you should take a pill for that." Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 31, 2016 08:56 PM (wB8Tg) People generally have the wrong idea about introverts.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 04:01 PM (0mRoj)

399 395 Won't it be great to have a President who golfs on his own courses, instead of spending taxpayer money on his outings? Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 08:59 PM (GsAUU) Can't begrudge a penny of Obama's golf money, even if he was doing other activities when out of sight of the press. If he's golfing or canoodling, he's not actively trying to bring down the country.

Posted by: Splunge at December 31, 2016 04:01 PM (iMxBJ)

400 377 I'm almost afraid to ask.

What's a blue nut allergy ?

Posted by: seamrog at December 31, 2016 08:55 PM (K1np9)

++++

I think it was an out-of-the-blue nut allergy.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 31, 2016 04:01 PM (R+30W)

401 Ohio State fumbles, Clemson recovers.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 04:02 PM (GsAUU)

402
If the recording quality is good enough maybe utube a few songs off of em.

Posted by: teej at December 31, 2016 08:57 PM (gJ3Vg)


I'd love to watch a video of you guys!  It's unlikely that I'll get to enjoy the band in person.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 31, 2016 04:02 PM (tHwdc)

403 Put me in a room packed with strangers and I'm out of there in short order. My ex would come alive in such situations. Me, I'd be just dying inside, waiting 'til we could leave. Mind you, if it's NOT a social situation- work, school, sports- I'm perfectly fine.

Posted by: t-bird at December 31, 2016 04:03 PM (8zL5i)

404 Time for another Beer

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 31, 2016 04:03 PM (dKiJG)

405 My phone = My Lifeforce! Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 09:00 PM (BaDGg) +++ It is an odd phenomenon and one of which I have succumbed to. Never saw it coming back in the 90's. Now, I can't leave the room without that "check and make sure" the location of phone. Can't walk out the door without it. No way.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2016 04:03 PM (CFc5L)

406
Put me in a room packed with strangers and I'm out of there in short order.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 08:58 PM (0mRoj)


Yep.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 31, 2016 04:03 PM (tHwdc)

407 Is the Diogenes Club website taken

Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2016 04:04 PM (2RVmA)

408 It will be nice to have a President who does his job and does things for the good of the country rather than costing the country more money for golf and vacations.

Posted by: madamemayhem (i wanna be sedated) at December 31, 2016 04:04 PM (yTnCT)

409 State is overmatched.

Posted by: Grump928(C) types with one eye and one finger at December 31, 2016 04:05 PM (LTHVh)

410 384 Actually, *the* St. Nicholas was from Turkey, when it was called Asia Minor. Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 08:56 PM (GsAUU) And he was Greek.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 04:05 PM (cAnNx)

411 Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 31, 2016 09:03 PM (dKiJG) That was a really nice story you told above.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 31, 2016 04:06 PM (SfoZN)

412 Why did you think there wasn't going to be a chess thread? Did you think I'd forgotten? Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at December 31, 2016 05:13 PM (6QnGR) Our anniversary was last week

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at December 31, 2016 04:06 PM (ue37K)

413 Good goal line stand by Ohio State, but their offense needs to show up.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 04:07 PM (GsAUU)

414 Put me in a room packed with strangers and I'm out of there in short order. Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 08:58 PM (0mRoj) Yep. Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 31, 2016 09:03 PM (tHwdc) I can barely even stand walking in to a place where I don't know anybody.

Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 31, 2016 04:07 PM (SfoZN)

415 406 Put me in a room packed with strangers and I'm out of there in short order. Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 08:58 PM (0mRoj) ----------- A stranger is just a friend you haven't met yet.

Posted by: Shit Confucius' Idiot Little Brother Said, vol. 2 at December 31, 2016 04:07 PM (TRzoP)

416 And he was Greek. Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 09:05 PM (cAnNx) --Now Asia Minor is greichischenrein

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 04:09 PM (GsAUU)

417 I can't believe the refs didn't call offsides against OSU there.  The defensive guard just lay there on the ground like, if he froze, the refs wouldn't notice,  AND HE WAS RIGHT.

Posted by: Grump928(C) types with one eye and one finger at December 31, 2016 04:09 PM (LTHVh)

418 I have a stupid phone. But even so, I feel a bit insecure going out without it. Suppose I have car trouble? Suppose someone really needs me? You'd think I hadn't lived decades before having such a crutch! How did I ever survive?!?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 31, 2016 04:09 PM (Nox3c)

419 Last time I saw Irving Mayas he was dying of some mysterious illness in Gainesville. Looks healthy as a horse to me. Thanks Corrine Brown!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 31, 2016 04:10 PM (5VlCp)

420 St. Nicholas was a swarthy fellow who probably never wore a red cap with a puffball on it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2016 04:10 PM (TRzoP)

421 If I were Trump, I'd put the press corps on a plane, and then send AF1 the other way

Posted by: Jean at December 31, 2016 04:10 PM (2RVmA)

422 And he was Greek. That's a dicey question in that part of the world. I was once in the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. It has to be called that, because the Greeks think that if it's just Macedonia then their northern province of Macedonia will think it gets to be a country. While I was there I was reliably informed by natives that (i) Phillip of Macedon and his son Alexander the Great were Yugoslav Macedonians, (2) that Phillip and Alexander were Greek Macedonians, (c) that Macedonian is a dialect of Bulgarian and that Macedonia is rightfully a Bulgarian province and that Phillip and Alexander were Bulgarians. Each of these opinions was fervently held.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 31, 2016 04:10 PM (mgbwf)

423 411 Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 31, 2016 09:03 PM (dKiJG) That was a really nice story you told above. Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 31, 2016 09:06 PM (SfoZN) --Yeah, he mentioned it during last night's Orange Bowl but it was nice to get the details here. Patrick has sweet memories of the Orange Bowl, but I'm just happy Florida State escaped with a win.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 04:11 PM (GsAUU)

424 Here's Carrie Fisher and Laverne as Playboy Bunnies in an episode of Laverne & Shirley. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcmNIMfV-kg

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 04:11 PM (BaDGg)

425 I know how it is Miley. You coasters don't want to be caught dead in flyover country. And us hicks, well... Now I don't know who God loves the most And I don't speak for the Holy Ghost He might vacation on the coast you see But when He goes home Spiritually God's Midwestern Do-do---do---do---dooo

Posted by: teej at December 31, 2016 04:11 PM (gJ3Vg)

426 417 I can't believe the refs didn't call offsides against OSU there. The defensive guard just lay there on the ground like, if he froze, the refs wouldn't notice, AND HE WAS RIGHT. Posted by: Grump928(C) types with one eye and one finger at December 31, 2016 09:09 PM (LTHVh) Should have been a penalty on Clemson. Illegal snap.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 04:11 PM (cAnNx)

427 I have a fancy-dancy smartphone with a 6" screen and all the toys, and I am so attached to it that I forget to take it half the time, and I pretty much use it for e-mail and an alarm clock. *And* I'm a gadget freak computer geek. I guess I just didn't catch the bug.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at December 31, 2016 04:11 PM (wB8Tg)

428 >>>You'd think I hadn't lived decades before having such a crutch! How did I ever survive?!?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 31, 2016 09:09 PM (Nox3c)<<<



Well, it wasn't so bad when they had goddamn phone booths around for when you needed one.

Posted by: Superman at December 31, 2016 04:11 PM (2xRDR)

429 The last time My (late) husband and I went out ton NYE, we went with another couple to a very nice seafood restaurant. The other couple ordered between them--4 appetizers, mixed drinks, the most expensive entrees on the menu, and then started ordering bottles of wine, without even inquiring as to price. My husband and I were moderate eaters and didn't drink. The bill for the four of us came to almost $700. When the waitress asked how we wanted to handle the check, the other husband said "we'll just split it." My husband and I got home that night and looked at each other and said "never again." Sadly, he died young and unexpectedly before the next new year.

Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at December 31, 2016 04:12 PM (nQ10o)

430 I can barely even stand walking in to a place where I don't know anybody. Posted by: Country Boy - Deplorable and proud of it at December 31, 2016 09:07 PM (SfoZN) fnord (SfoZN) If I see too many cars in a store's parking lot, I go somewhere else. Or come back another day.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at December 31, 2016 04:13 PM (wB8Tg)

431 Ehh, I'm just kind of used to people treating introverts like "you should take a pill for that." Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 31, 2016 08:56 PM (wB8Tg) Not sure if this is an improvement over "dude, it's easy, just stop being shy!", or not.

Posted by: mikeski at December 31, 2016 04:13 PM (UzBQ4)

432 Faiding fast, but then been up since 0430hrs

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2016 04:13 PM (5sOEp)

433 Suppose I have car trouble? Suppose someone really needs me? If I have my Debit Card and my Phone, I can pretty much survive anything that comes at me, I believe (wrongly). I should probably include Carrying in that but I hardly ever do -- but I should Carry more often.

Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 04:14 PM (BaDGg)

434 Baseball season can't come soon enough. For grammie winger and teh other baseball morons/ettes (you know who you are), here's another countdown for NYE that doesn't require hanging around Times Square with all those sand-filled dump trucks: http://tinyurl.com/zb3esfe The Spring Training Countdown, natch!

Posted by: Basement Cat at December 31, 2016 04:14 PM (3C9q2)

435 Am I supposed to recognize the song on the Gatorade food stick ad?

Posted by: Grump928(C) types with one eye and one finger at December 31, 2016 04:15 PM (LTHVh)

436 Niners are getting rid of Chip Kelly. Probably a relief to him. Can you imagine having your hands tied all season by that dipshit Kaepernick?

Posted by: t-bird at December 31, 2016 04:15 PM (8zL5i)

437 While I was there I was reliably informed by natives that (i) Phillip of Macedon and his son Alexander the Great were Yugoslav Macedonians, (2) that Phillip and Alexander were Greek Macedonians, (c) that Macedonian is a dialect of Bulgarian and that Macedonia is rightfully a Bulgarian province and that Phillip and Alexander were Bulgarians. Each of these opinions was fervently held. Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 31, 2016 09:10 PM (mgbwf) --The ancient Macedonians were Hellenic peoples. Alexander the Great was a pupil of Aristotle's. Modern Macedonians are Slavs and Macedonian is a Slavic language.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 04:15 PM (GsAUU)

438 428 Well, it wasn't so bad when they had goddamn phone booths around for when you needed one. Posted by: Superman at December 31, 2016 09:11 PM (2xRDR) ------------------ Y'no, Supe, you've got a point there.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 31, 2016 04:16 PM (Nox3c)

439 The Obama Countdown Clock reads 19 days, 14 hours, 38 minutes.

Posted by: Splunge at December 31, 2016 04:16 PM (iMxBJ)

440 431 Ehh, I'm just kind of used to people treating introverts like "you should take a pill for that." Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 31, 2016 08:56 PM (wB8Tg) Not sure if this is an improvement over "dude, it's easy, just stop being shy!", or not. Posted by: mikeski at December 31, 2016 09:13 PM (UzBQ4) Introversion and shyness are not synonymous. But it's still every bit as prodctive as telling someone with clinical depression to just snap out of it.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 04:17 PM (0mRoj)

441 Last year by the 8th game I wanted Chip Kelly and Sam Bradford gone.

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2016 04:17 PM (5sOEp)

442 433 Suppose I have car trouble? Suppose someone really needs me? If I have my Debit Card and my Phone, I can pretty much survive anything that comes at me, I believe (wrongly). I should probably include Carrying in that but I hardly ever do -- but I should Carry more often. Posted by: Soothsayer Pro Elite at December 31, 2016 09:14 PM (BaDGg) I carry everywhere all the time.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 04:18 PM (0mRoj)

443 434 Baseball season can't come soon enough.... Posted by: Basement Cat at December 31, 2016 09:14 PM (3C9q2) ------------------- College ball starts in February!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at December 31, 2016 04:19 PM (Nox3c)

444 BREAKING: NEW YEAR'S EVE TERROR ATTACK AT ISTANBUL NIGHTCLUB. AT LEAST 35 KILLED, DOZENS WOUNDED. See sidebar for details.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 31, 2016 04:19 PM (mbhDw)

445 @373 shibumi, WOPR is out west of Toledo. I'm in dat swamp too, other end.

Posted by: Stringer Davis[/i][/b] at December 31, 2016 04:19 PM (H5rtT)

446 I carry everywhere all the time.


ISWYDT

Posted by: Grump928(C) types with one eye and one finger at December 31, 2016 04:19 PM (LTHVh)

447 Kelly probably wanted to cut the cop hater. And the front office sucks the fags of the bay's cocks too much to want to do that.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 04:19 PM (cAnNx)

Posted by: Grump928(C) ProLite 2200 at December 31, 2016 04:19 PM (LTHVh)

449 Happy New Year.


Hillary Clinton will NEVER be president of the United States

Posted by: The Other Guy at December 31, 2016 04:19 PM (bEMLI)

450 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 31, 2016 04:19 PM (SvLsV)

451 islam is a cancer on the civilized world.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2016 04:21 PM (TRzoP)

452 439 The Obama Countdown Clock reads 19 days, 14 hours, 38 minutes. Posted by: Splunge at December 31, 2016 09:16 PM (iMxBJ) --*That's* the clock I'm fixed on.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 04:21 PM (GsAUU)

453 I carry everywhere all the time.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 09:18 PM (0mRoj)


I just started.  Going to make wife and son get a CCW.

Posted by: The Other Guy at December 31, 2016 04:21 PM (bEMLI)

454 Roll Tide!

Posted by: Nick Satan at December 31, 2016 04:21 PM (bc2Lc)

455 451 islam is a cancer on the civilized world. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2016 09:21 PM (TRzoP) The terrorists were dressed as Santa Claus, so take heart. /S

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 31, 2016 04:21 PM (mbhDw)

456 I may forget my phone but I never leave home without at least one firearm. Texas, baby!

Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2016 04:22 PM (zLDYs)

457 I just started. Going to make wife and son get a CCW. Posted by: The Other Guy at December 31, 2016 09:21 PM (bEMLI) Excellent. It should become so habitual that you feel naked without it. At least that's how I see it.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 04:23 PM (0mRoj)

458 439 The Obama Countdown Clock reads 19 days, 14 hours, 38 minutes.

Posted by: Splunge at December 31, 2016 09:16 PM (iMxBJ)


Ace should post a countdown clock at HQ

Posted by: The Other Guy at December 31, 2016 04:23 PM (bEMLI)

459 458 439 The Obama Countdown Clock reads 19 days, 14 hours, 38 minutes. Posted by: Splunge at December 31, 2016 09:16 PM (iMxBJ) Ace should post a countdown clock at HQ Posted by: The Other Guy at December 31, 2016 09:23 PM (bEMLI) "AHEM, HEM, HEM!!!" - - Sefton, every damn morning since 11/12

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 31, 2016 04:24 PM (mbhDw)

460 Ohio state has only shown some real progress going up the middle. So of course they only do that twice.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 04:24 PM (cAnNx)

461 I know how it is Miley. You coasters don't want to be caught dead in flyover country.
And us hicks, well...


Posted by: teej at December 31, 2016 09:11 PM (gJ3Vg)


If I could teleport, I'd be there in the blink of an eye.  Haven't flown in many years, don't have the resources for that. 


Should I win a lottery, I'd make my way around the US meeting 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 31, 2016 04:25 PM (tHwdc)

462 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 31, 2016 09:19 PM (mbhDw) fnord (mbhDw) Well, 2016 kind of went out the way it came in. With a massive middle finger. Man, that sucks ass. Let's hope 2017 doesn't turn this into a game of one-upsmanship. Oh, shit. I just realizeed - Istanbul - this IS 2017! NOOOOOOOO!!!!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at December 31, 2016 04:25 PM (wB8Tg)

463 JJ guess your just part of the furniture

Posted by: Skip at December 31, 2016 04:25 PM (5sOEp)

464
- - Sefton, every damn morning since 11/12

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 31, 2016 09:24 PM (mbhDw)


No, I mean one that constantly runs, like the debt clock.

Posted by: The Other Guy at December 31, 2016 04:25 PM (bEMLI)

465 2016 was an interesting year. I suspect 2017 will be interestinger.

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2016 04:26 PM (Sfs6o)

466 I suppose I should post a new thread about the attack. *ponders*

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 31, 2016 04:27 PM (mbhDw)

467 2016 sucked. So did 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, and 2010. 1979-1991 also sucked. Come to think of it, so did 1992-1998, 2000-2002, 2004, and 2006-2009.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 04:27 PM (0mRoj)

468 Krautish FAZ says "at least one" attacker was dressed as Santa. Then says "the attackers" were speaking to each other in Arabic. At least 35 dead, 40 in hospital.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, gentleman cad at December 31, 2016 04:27 PM (mgbwf)

469 Dick Clark's countdown to 2017 on ABC?


It's a zombie show?

Posted by: The Other Guy at December 31, 2016 04:27 PM (bEMLI)

470 Don't need to carry **long sniff an hikes up pants** My whole body's a weapon

Posted by: Barney Fife at December 31, 2016 04:28 PM (gJ3Vg)

471
My husband and I got home that night and looked at each other and said "never again." Sadly, he died young and unexpectedly before the next new year.

Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at December 31, 2016 09:12 PM (nQ10o)


I feel for you - mine died unexpectedly as well.  Although we usually hosted people at our place for dinners and thus avoided the costs of such treaserous "friendships."  Some people!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 31, 2016 04:28 PM (tHwdc)

472 459 458 439 The Obama Countdown Clock reads 19 days, 14 hours, 38 minutes. Posted by: Splunge at December 31, 2016 09:16 PM (iMxBJ) Ace should post a countdown clock at HQ Posted by: The Other Guy at December 31, 2016 09:23 PM (bEMLI) "AHEM, HEM, HEM!!!" - - Sefton, every damn morning since 11/12 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 31, 2016 09:24 PM (mbhDw) --I might add a comment about that when I hit the tip jar.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 04:29 PM (GsAUU)

473 465 2016 was an interesting year. I suspect 2017 will be interestinger. Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2016 09:26 PM (Sfs6o) +++ Let's hope it's not more of the WTF interesting. Between you and me, I've had quite enough of that. Pretty much every effing day.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 31, 2016 04:29 PM (CFc5L)

474 465 2016 was an interesting year. I suspect 2017 will be interestinger. Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2016 09:26 PM (Sfs6o) As in "interesting times". We'll be lucky if Obozo and Captain Ketchup don't have us in a two-front war with Russia and China before Jan. 20.

Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2016 04:30 PM (sdi6R)

475 #321 Going outside and blowing some shit up tonight.  Kill 2016 with fire.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at December 31, 2016 04:30 PM (Dgvtg)

476 Welcome in two oh seventeen no chance of the skankeley queen we're out of the danger of the old hope&changer ITYKWIM

Posted by: seamrog at December 31, 2016 04:31 PM (K1np9)

477 TD Clemson!

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 04:32 PM (GsAUU)

478 This is the reason Ohio state lost to michigan state last year. Letting Barret do everything and refusing to give it to their running back that can actually take it up the middle.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 04:32 PM (cAnNx)

479 467 2016 sucked. So did 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, and 2010. 1979-1991 also sucked. Come to think of it, so did 1992-1998, 2000-2002, 2004, and 2006-2009. Posted by: Insomniac at December 31, 2016 09:27 PM (0mRoj) Nah, 1992, 1999, and 2000 didn't suck.

Posted by: rickl at December 31, 2016 04:32 PM (sdi6R)

480 I am only marginally interested in chess, so I don't engage to much with the weekly chess thread, but for some reason I was thinking of the chess-themed Columbo episode "The Most Dangerous Match" (Season 2, Episode 7, 1973). From the imdb description: "Emmett Clayton has a nightmare before an important chess match: he and his opponent are chess pieces on a giant, fog-covered chess board. Clearly he's worried about his match with Tomlin Dudek, a kindly old fat Russian. Later, the two meet, not coincidentally, in a French restaurant, where they begin using the salt and pepper shakers and other objects on the table as chess pieces. The game continues in Clayton's apartment - secretly, because both Dudek's doctor and his coach would throw fits if they knew the diabetic Russian was out late, eating rich foods with his opponent. Clayton loses the impromptu game and has a nervous fit, from which Dudek tries to calm him down. The next day, Clayton decides he must murder Dudek before the match. He concocts a scheme that makes it look as if Dudek had met with an untimely accident in the hotel's trash compactor, but our rumpled and seemingly disorganized Lt. Columbo is on the case." Clayton, the American murderer, is portrayed as brilliant, but mentally imbalanced, as something of a Bobby Fischer-type. The Russian he kills is a fat, jolly type. Anyway, it's on Netflix along with the rest of the series

Posted by: I Work for Dick Jones at December 31, 2016 04:32 PM (rft/I)

481 Looks like we'll get a championship game rematch this year. Please Dabo, beat those assholes this time!

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 04:33 PM (GsAUU)

482 'Treaserous' is a combo of 'treasonous' and 'treacherous' I suppose.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 31, 2016 04:33 PM (tHwdc)

483 What channel is the game on? 

Posted by: The Other Guy at December 31, 2016 04:34 PM (bEMLI)

484 NOOD. Istanbul Terror Attack.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 31, 2016 04:34 PM (mbhDw)

485 I had a couple of iced teas with my hamburger for dinner, so things are liable to start getting pretty wacky here at Fort Weasel.

Posted by: Weasel at December 31, 2016 04:35 PM (Sfs6o)

486 You decide you need to get away for a few days we'll figure out a way to make it happen. Maybe we can work out a meet up at a KC gig.

Posted by: teej at December 31, 2016 04:35 PM (gJ3Vg)

487
Twenty seventeen.
The great year that Hillary,
Won't be President.

Posted by: New Year-ku at December 31, 2016 04:35 PM (2xRDR)

488 I feel for you - mine died unexpectedly as well. Although we usually hosted people at our place for dinners and thus avoided the costs of such treaserous "friendships." Some people! Sorry to hear about your loss, Miley. I hope you were as fortunate as I was in you husband and marriage.

Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at December 31, 2016 04:35 PM (nQ10o)

489 Yeah, Dabo. It's been a long time since 1981.

Posted by: Eromero at December 31, 2016 04:35 PM (zLDYs)

490 478 This is the reason Ohio state lost to michigan state last year. Letting Barret do everything and refusing to give it to their running back that can actually take it up the middle. Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 09:32 PM (cAnNx) --It doesn't help that Weber is fumbling.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 04:36 PM (GsAUU)

491 Fcking cable guide doesn't show the game on espn

Posted by: The Other Guy at December 31, 2016 04:37 PM (bEMLI)

492 This rout may be worse than Oregon-FSU a couple of years ago.

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 04:37 PM (GsAUU)

493 Sometimes I get a little anxiety attack. Are you all absolutely positive they won't prop up that old crow up on a board and run her again in 2020?

Posted by: Libertarianwannabe at December 31, 2016 04:38 PM (nQ10o)

494 483 What channel is the game on? Posted by: The Other Guy at December 31, 2016 09:34 PM (bEMLI) --ESPN

Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 04:38 PM (GsAUU)

495 490 478 This is the reason Ohio state lost to michigan state last year. Letting Barret do everything and refusing to give it to their running back that can actually take it up the middle. Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 09:32 PM (cAnNx) --It doesn't help that Weber is fumbling. Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 09:36 PM (GsAUU) Maybe if he touched the ball more than once a quarter he wouldn't be fumbling.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 04:39 PM (cAnNx)

496 356 Is your name Porfirio?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at December 31, 2016 04:41 PM (Dgvtg)

497 Well!  Power went out briefly twice within a minute.  Not ominous at all, nosiree...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon without a basestar at December 31, 2016 04:42 PM (vyqqu)

498 497 Well! Power went out briefly twice within a minute. Not ominous at all, nosiree... Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon without a basestar at December 31, 2016 09:42 PM (vyqqu) Hacked by the Russians.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 31, 2016 04:42 PM (cAnNx)

499 Hacked by the Russians.

Posted by: Buzzion

I half expect the Idiot King will start a nuclear war by January 20.  Afraid NOBODY will get out of 2016 alive at this rate...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Cylon without a basestar at December 31, 2016 04:48 PM (vyqqu)

500 355 Tomorrow is also the Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God. Posted by: logprof at December 31, 2016 08:45 PM (GsAUU) And the Feast of the Giving of the Name, Jesus. Which is the patronal feast of the Society of Jesus, SJ.

Posted by: Fox 2! at December 31, 2016 05:05 PM (brIR5)

501 AKA "The Jebbies"

Posted by: Fox 2! at December 31, 2016 05:05 PM (brIR5)

502 we're out of the danger Not until 20/1700Z Jan 2017

Posted by: Fox 2! at December 31, 2016 05:09 PM (brIR5)

503 Meyer is not so great of a coach at OSU, where he should always have great talent. MSU has beaten them twice by our coaching and outplaying the Bucks. That is on the coaches when that happens.

Posted by: FNG at December 31, 2016 05:10 PM (tj7nx)

504 This is the reason Ohio state lost to michigan state last year. I noticed the same thing against Wisconsin- an over-reliance on Barrett. "Here, you do everything"

Posted by: t-bird at December 31, 2016 05:38 PM (29QcC)

505 What?! Zombie is a female!?! Alisa in disguise???!?!

Posted by: Philip at December 31, 2016 06:10 PM (KuhR6)

506 Problem 3 and the Zombie problem defeated me, that one is really clever.

Posted by: waelse1 at December 31, 2016 10:16 PM (1j3SK)

507 2D chess and I just bought a 3D TeeVee bitch

Posted by: saf at January 02, 2017 04:44 AM (+zN6H)

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