March 31, 2018

Religious Literacy: What a week! [KT]
— Open Blogger

From Robert P. George on a recent WSJ correction:

Ladies and Gentlemen: I give you the case for Biblical literacy

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Religious literacy seems to have been an undercurrent this week at AoSHQ and elsewhere. Ace picked up on NPR's embarrassing definition of Easter. Heh. It adds another layer of confusion to the reporting about the Pope's views on hell. Which is already confusing enough. Meanwhile,CBD highlighted this:

According to one 2004 estimate, since the 1970s Saudi Arabia has spent "north of $75 billion" on dawa - that is, on spreading Wahhabi Islam to non-Muslim societies. Many millions went to American colleges and universities willing to assist the kingdom. That they accepted the money is clearly a conflict of interests. Would they have accepted money from the Vatican to promote Catholicism?

J.J. Sefton has featured some great religious literacy content in his Culture Wars, Hither and Yon segments this week. Might want to save a link to Passover and the American Zion.

Freedom is forever in danger. Moses' instruction to his people as to the manner in which they were to celebrate the Passover indicates his comprehension of liberty as an eternal struggle. The matzah was to be eaten while we are standing with our shoes on our feet, in battle dress (Hebrew: hagor), with staff in hand ready to move as if we were actually participating in the ancient journey ourselves (Exodus 12:11).

Over at Maggie's Farm, there's something quite different, written by Bruce Kesler: Passover Answers Whether Jews Are a People or Just a Religion. You should really read the whole thing if the subject interests you:

The seder culminates with the affirmation, "Next year in Jerusalem," a reminder that the Jewish story that begins in Egypt ends in the land of Israel. A specific people bound to a specific land, for the ultimate sake of all peoples and all lands.

This week, as Jews around the world prepare for Passover, the war against Jewish peoplehood - against Passover itself - took a particularly ugly turn. A UNESCO resolution on Jerusalem denied any Jewish attachment to the Temple Mount and the Western Wall - the Wall was identified with quotation marks, unlike its Muslim term, Al Buraq.

The resolution - supported by, among others, Sweden, France and Spain, whose leaders profess friendship for the Jews - gives tacit legitimacy to the Palestinian terror campaign of recent months. It ignores the fact that Israel bars Jews from praying on the Mount. That Palestinian groups have systematically destroyed ancient Jewish artifacts at the site.

But most of all, the UNESCO resolution erases us from our own story. There were no temples on the Temple Mount, the Mount isn't the holiest site in Judaism, the Wall isn't the heart of Jewish prayer. Of all the attempts to destroy us throughout our history, the campaign against history itself is the most devious. . .

Wow. That is a REAL attempt to stamp out religious -and related historical - literacy.

Yes, this is the Thread before the Gardening Thread. Maybe you have some other topic you would like to discuss.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

Have a great weekend.

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1 First?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 31, 2018 06:13 AM (+Dllb)

2 That correction made me laugh out loud.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 31, 2018 06:15 AM (nBr1j)

3 I am Iraq, I am an Island.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Irish Enough (Ulster Scot) at March 31, 2018 06:18 AM (Mkuv2)

4 Fuck the UN with a pineapple sideways up the ass. We should kick their asses out of NYC and stop giving theses shits money.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 31, 2018 06:19 AM (QMwOT)

5 Easter is when the Great Bunny layed the egg Jesus came out of.

Posted by: steevy at March 31, 2018 06:19 AM (LiyEm)

6 It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're a Fool. Than to Speak and Remove All Doubt .

Posted by: X-ray at March 31, 2018 06:20 AM (TGrKk)

7 "Let it be known to you that this salvation from God has been sent to all peoples" Acts 28:28

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 31, 2018 06:21 AM (0O7c5)

8 Iraq, a rock. Tomato, potato.

Posted by: mindful webworker - apples, oranges at March 31, 2018 06:22 AM (Q1QrS)

9 The narrow path vs. the wide path. Been this way for all time.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 31, 2018 06:22 AM (QMwOT)

10 I thought he got it from the Iraquois.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at March 31, 2018 06:22 AM (fZlu3)

11 The only thing I found remotely Trumpian in the Roseanne reboot I saw, was John Goodman asking his daughter exactly when masculinity became toxic. I guess I might have missed some of it. But even so it seemed kind of tame.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at March 31, 2018 06:22 AM (+Tibp)

12 What floors me is that there used to be this group of older, professional reporters, who would FACT CHECK things before it would get published... called... Editors... Do they not exist anymore? Don't professional reporters have to send stuff to Editors before publishing anymore?

Posted by: Don Q. at March 31, 2018 06:23 AM (NgKpN)

13 Add F Chuck Tard to the list of people who completely mangled the concept of Good Friday, following the lead of Pope Jay Cutler.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 31, 2018 06:23 AM (y7DUB)

14 I Want Iraq with you....

Posted by: Michael jackson at March 31, 2018 06:24 AM (7uYFy)

15 I am convince the Fresh Pope is more of an idiot than he is evil. It may be a distinction without a difference, but it's there. With so many of his muddled pronouncements, there seems to be a question of translation, but the problem is, I think, his simplistic view of the world. He has a child's concept of a lot of these things, and the fact that he's stumped on the question of hell is rather telling. The man doesn't really understand his religion. He's not studied it.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2018 06:24 AM (Pz4pT)

16 I Want Iraq and Roll All Night

Posted by: KISS at March 31, 2018 06:25 AM (7uYFy)

17 **dons tinfoil hat** The media is run by the CFR who dictates the narrative.

Posted by: lin-duh at March 31, 2018 06:25 AM (kufk0)

18 All the talk about lunch counters really made me pine for the old days and I'm on the younger side of 29.

Posted by: Max Power at March 31, 2018 06:25 AM (QCc6B)

19 I Want Iraq!

Posted by: Twisted Sister at March 31, 2018 06:26 AM (7uYFy)

20 Haglor = AR15

Posted by: Jean at March 31, 2018 06:26 AM (MS0+a)

21 Iraq, a rock. Tomato, potato. Posted by: mindful webworker - apples, oranges at March 31, 2018 11:22 AM (Q1QrS) Oh, let's call the whole thing off.

Posted by: Fred A. Stair at March 31, 2018 06:27 AM (Pz4pT)

22 With so many of his muddled pronouncements, there seems to be a question of translation, but the problem is, I think, his simplistic view of the world. He has a child's concept of a lot of these things, and the fact that he's stumped on the question of hell is rather telling. The man doesn't really understand his religion. He's not studied it. Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2018 11:24 AM (Pz4pT) After all these "mistranslations" Pope New Coke keeps going back to the same atheist interviewer. Breitbart has an article on how he sold out the Chinese Catholics.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 31, 2018 06:27 AM (y7DUB)

23 Lucy: I got chocolate! What did you get, Charlie Brown? Charlie Brown: I got Iraq.....

Posted by: Peanuts at March 31, 2018 06:28 AM (7uYFy)

24 My friend had to correct his young son. "His grace is sufficient for me" came out "His grace is a fishin' for me."

Posted by: Guam tipper at March 31, 2018 06:29 AM (/DvFd)

25

 

I go Iraqin after midnight

 

Out in the moonligt

 

Just like we use to do,  I'm always  Iraqin

 

 

After  midnight  searchin   for  you.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 31, 2018 06:31 AM (lKyWE)

26 BurtTC #15: I am convince the Fresh Pope is more of an idiot than he is evil. Brings to mind the phrase "useful idiot," then. Intentional evil is sin. (Like the G00gle motto, "Do Moar Evil.") The misled are not definitionally sinning, but they are certainly facilitating evil. "There is a way that seems right for a man..." some guy said...

Posted by: mindful webworker - hell hath no fury at March 31, 2018 06:31 AM (Q1QrS)

27 24 My friend had to correct his young son. "His grace is sufficient for me" came out "His grace is a fishin' for me." Posted by: Guam tipper at March 31, 2018 11:29 AM (/DvFd) -------------------- Not necessarily wrong, though.

Posted by: Blake at March 31, 2018 06:31 AM (WEBkv)

28 After all these "mistranslations" Pope New Coke keeps going back to the same atheist interviewer. Breitbart has an article on how he sold out the Chinese Catholics. Posted by: Captain Hate at March 31, 2018 11:27 AM (y7DUB) Someone got it right yesterday when they said that , in Francis' experience , the Left fed people, while the Right threw people out of helicopters.... He also seems to have a direct line to the DNC. It was no accident that earlier this week, Franky said adults shouldn't tell "the youn to be quiet", while the Hogg Media Circus was in full swing

Posted by: JoeF. at March 31, 2018 06:32 AM (7uYFy)

29 The core problem with this Pope is he doesn't have the will to push back against the Euro liberals in the Curia. Either because he agrees with them or as an outsider, he has no ability or power to deal with them. I suspect the former.

Posted by: Jean at March 31, 2018 06:33 AM (MS0+a)

30 BurtTC #15: I am convince the Fresh Pope is more of an idiot than he is evil. Brings to mind the phrase "useful idiot," then. Intentional evil is sin. (Like the G00gle motto, "Do Moar Evil.") The misled are not definitionally sinning, but they are certainly facilitating evil. "There is a way that seems right for a man..." some guy said... Posted by: mindful webworker - hell hath no fury at March 31, 2018 11:31 AM (Q1QrS) Yes, and of course one must remember: He wasn't installed as Pope by himself. He didn't facilitate the overthrow of the real Pope.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2018 06:34 AM (Pz4pT)

31 Never assume any religious artical from the MSM is anywhere near correct.

Posted by: Skip Go Cats! at March 31, 2018 06:34 AM (aC6Sd)

32 Someone got it right yesterday when they said that , in Francis' experience , the Left fed people, while the Right threw people out of helicopters We did not throw them out of helicopters! The opex would have been far too high.

Posted by: L-188 Loadmasters Association at March 31, 2018 06:35 AM (MS0+a)

33 31 Never assume any religious artical from the MSM is anywhere near correct. Posted by: Skip Go Cats! at March 31, 2018 11:34 AM (aC6Sd) When's the last time they were in the vicinity of correct? BTW, have Newsweek and Time done their annual denial of the resurrection articles?

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 31, 2018 06:35 AM (nBr1j)

34 Big subject ... while the heart of those that believe in God, (based on the Bible and their personal interpretations) is not tied to any one place, the history/heritage of a homeland is important.

Personally I give most credence to the agreed to decision in 1948 (?) to make Israel out of their "homeland", plus they fought to keep it (with a little help from a few Americans I guess).  It's a done deal ...

Hopefully they are entering into stronger agreements with Saudis, Egypt, Jordan etc. that maybe brings more calm, despite Obama's best efforts.

But as important as it is for Jews and/or Christians to stand together for freedom (Israel as their place, America for Americans, allies) ... the heart of religion is personal liberty.  The Gentiles which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, since always love of God is of the heart, in the spirit, not in the letter, but of God.  (condensed Romans 2)

I'm working on my unified theory that ties OT and NT together, but there are still a few quarks to work out.   But yes, we need to keep our Republic for American purposes as roughly defined (and fought for) by the founders.  Israel seems to be a fairly direct parallel, in theory at least.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 31, 2018 06:36 AM (bT8Z4)

35 I was once between Iraq and a hard place.

Posted by: Shep Smith at March 31, 2018 06:36 AM (fZlu3)

36 I would not be surprised if/when this Pope denies that Jesus is the Christ, Messiah, Son of God, Lord and Savior, and died for our sins.

Posted by: Monk at March 31, 2018 06:36 AM (GJnhB)

37 Stuck Between Iraq....and a Hard Place

Posted by: The Rolling Stones at March 31, 2018 06:37 AM (7uYFy)

38 He has arisen!

Here's where it gets complicated:  McCain, Schwarzenegger, or Jesus?  The bookies are never closed.

Posted by: Fritz at March 31, 2018 06:37 AM (bJ0w+)

39 HALP US JON KARRY WE R STUCK IN A ROCK

Posted by: josephistan at March 31, 2018 06:37 AM (ANIFC)

40 Of all the criminal unmaskings by Powers and her Islamo-Commie boss, the greatest was unmasking themselves as Jew-haters when they permitted the UN resolution giving the Wall to the PLO in the Final Days of the Obama Reich.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 31, 2018 06:38 AM (0IaIs)

41

 

Jesuits are the original socialist.  Pope  Francis is  just  being true to the order,  which  is  also   why  Jesuits  are  not  supposed  to  seek  high  office.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 31, 2018 06:38 AM (lKyWE)

42 Franky there proves Operation Condor was plagued with deficiencies.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 31, 2018 06:39 AM (fA1SL)

43 Governor Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown pardoned 5 criminal illegal aliens whose crimes include (1) Kidnapping and Robbery (2) Badly beating wife and threatening a crime with intent to terrorize (3) Dealing drugs. Is this really what the great people of California want? @RealDonaldTrump 3h Why just California? These criminals can go to other states just as easily.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 31, 2018 06:40 AM (r9UYA)

44 Christians don't recognize Moses, Jews don't recognize Jesus, Mormons don't recognize each other in Las Vegas.

Posted by: Adobe Juan Calhoon Kenobe at March 31, 2018 06:41 AM (2AVbK)

45 Meretz leader Zandberg calls for inquiry into Gaza border deaths In light of deadly clashes Friday that resulted in deaths of Palestinian civilians, some of which were unarmed, Meretz leader MK Zandberg echoes UN Secretary-General's request for investigation of the incident. Meretz is Left wing and idiocy like this is why Netanyahu keeps winning no matter what he says or does. The Left in Israel is almost as crazy as the left in America

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 31, 2018 06:42 AM (5y11N)

46 43 Governor Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown pardoned 5 criminal illegal aliens whose crimes include (1) Kidnapping and Robbery (2) Badly beating wife and threatening a crime with intent to terrorize (3) Dealing drugs. Is this really what the great people of California want? @RealDonaldTrump 3h Why just California? These criminals can go to other states just as easily. Posted by: Under Fire at March 31, 2018 11:40 AM (r9UYA) Why aren't citizens of California marching on the governor's mansion with pitchforks and torches and truck loads of tar and feathers?

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 31, 2018 06:42 AM (nBr1j)

47 Posted by: Captain Hate at March 31, 2018 11:27 AM (y7DUB) Someone got it right yesterday when they said that , in Francis' experience , the Left fed people, while the Right threw people out of helicopters.... He also seems to have a direct line to the DNC. It was no accident that earlier this week, Franky said adults shouldn't tell "the youn to be quiet", while the Hogg Media Circus was in full swing Posted by: JoeF. at March 31, 2018 11:32 AM (7uYFy) Which goes into the "the guy is an idiot" category. The left doesn't have any clue what they're talking about when they accuse "the right" of being anywhere near the equivalent of a conservative political ideology. "The right" is what the french called fascists in their midst, and much of the 20th century distinction between left and right was the battle between different versions of socialism. I don't know how that concept got lost, but it is not just a gross oversimplification, it strikes me as an intentional lie perpetrated on, among others, American schoolchildren.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2018 06:43 AM (Pz4pT)

48 Ace picked up on NPR's embarrassing definition of Easter. NPR's Islamic definition of Easter.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 31, 2018 06:43 AM (yQpMk)

49

 

Governor Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown pardoned 5 criminal illegal aliens whose crimes include (1) Kidnapping and Robbery (2) Badly beating wife and threatening a crime with intent to terrorize (3) Dealing drugs. Is this really what the great people of California want?

 

And he did it on Good Friday which IMHO gave a creepy Pontius  Pilate vibe

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 31, 2018 06:44 AM (lKyWE)

50 the UN is against most of humanities survival, (look at how they protect those that kill the most throughout the world) I wish we would kick their rears out of the country.

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 06:45 AM (eaoOY)

51 >> "36 I would not be surprised if/when this Pope denies that Jesus is the Christ, Messiah, Son of God, Lord and Savior, and died for our sins." --Posted by: Monk

Should that happen, whatever is left of the traditional Catholic laity will overnight have to become sedevacantists.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at March 31, 2018 06:45 AM (EKvBl)

52 After all these "mistranslations" Pope New Coke keeps going back to the same atheist interviewer. Breitbart has an article on how he sold out the Chinese Catholics.
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All of the Asian and African Roman Catholics appear to have been abandoned by Frankie Hollywood.  He has had a while to establish himself and he is still playing stupid Marxist politics.

Don't have much respect for him, but the deliberate political support rather than spiritual support just capped my disdain.  Jews and Christians are the most tortured and terrorized people on the planet and a so-called 'leader' is playing political games.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 06:46 AM (MIKMs)

53 The pali's deliberately bring their children into "conflict/war zones" to get them hurt and/or killed. It serves their purpose of making Israel bad. It just shows how evil they are by using their own children as shields.

Posted by: lin-duh at March 31, 2018 06:46 AM (kufk0)

54 >>Why aren't citizens of California marching on the governor's mansion with pitchforks and torches and truck loads of tar and feathers? Too stoned to care?

Posted by: Under Fire at March 31, 2018 06:46 AM (r9UYA)

55 Why aren't citizens of California marching on the governor's mansion with pitchforks and torches and truck loads of tar and feathers? --------------------------- Too stoned to care? Posted by: Under Fire at March 31, 2018 11:46 AM (r9UYA) I'm sure not all of them are stoned. But it's a lovely Saturday, the beaches are pretty, and the organic grocer is selling avocados that don't look rotten.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2018 06:48 AM (Pz4pT)

56 So we've gone from Washington's letter to the Jews of Newport... To this. Progress, huh? "May the children of the stock of Abraham who dwell in this land continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other inhabitants... May the father of all mercies scatter light, not darkness, upon our paths, and make us all in our several vocations useful here, and in His own due time and way everlastingly happy" Imagine the reaction of NPR/our illiterati today...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 31, 2018 06:49 AM (7LY+6)

57 oh man avocados, one of my favorite foods. i can see selling out for that.

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 06:49 AM (eaoOY)

58

 

Why aren't citizens of California marching on the governor's mansion with pitchforks and torches and truck loads of tar and feathers?

Too stoned to care?

 

Posted by: Under Fire at March 31, 2018 11:46 AM (r9UYA)

 

 

They will be made to care when the Trumpenfuher cracks the whip on legalized pot.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 31, 2018 06:50 AM (lKyWE)

59 oh man avocados, one of my favorite foods." Shhh. Don't tell anyone, but we grow 'em here in Texas too...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 31, 2018 06:50 AM (7LY+6)

60 Why aren't citizens of California marching on the governor's mansion with pitchforks and torches and truck loads of tar and feathers? Because pitchforks, torches, tar, and feathers have all been determined by the state of California to cause cancer?

Posted by: rickl at March 31, 2018 06:51 AM (sdi6R)

61 Anon, which is why Texas is my future (hoping) destination. G-d willing.

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 06:51 AM (eaoOY)

62 re Texas, seems vary varied in buying , I want outside a city, but not so much i can't get spouse to an emergency room. suggestions?

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 06:53 AM (eaoOY)

63 Imagine the reaction of NPR/our illiterati today...
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That is why I recommended a Federalist article the other day about teaching OT/NT in schools as shared and understood culture for the US.  I'm not totally comfortable with 'religion' in schools, but our culture depends on Biblical traditions and the newest fad (islam) is not part of our shared tradition.  Aside from the shores of Tripoli.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 06:54 AM (MIKMs)

64 money is an issue i want to pay off whatever.. and only will have a 100k or so.

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 06:54 AM (eaoOY)

65 Ted Nugent, the sometime classic rocker and current NRA board member, is speaking out about the new generation of gun reform advocates: the "pathetic" teenage "liars" who survived the deadly massacre last month at a high school in Parkland, Florida. "These poor children, I'm afraid to say this and it hurts me to say this, but the evidence is irrefutable, they have no soul"

Posted by: Under Fire at March 31, 2018 06:54 AM (r9UYA)

66 "Add F Chuck Tard to the list of people who completely mangled the concept of Good Friday, following the lead of Pope Jay Cutler." Chuckie's tweet: I'm a bit hokey when it comes to "Good Friday." I don't mean disrespect to the religious aspect of the day, but I love the idea of reminding folks that any day can become "good," all it takes is a little selflessness on our own part. Works EVERY time. It's like a bad Seinfeld routine. "Hey why do they call it Good Friday. What's so good about it."

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2018 06:54 AM (pV/54)

67 do not mind very simple living, but do require water sewer and electric, roof already and No desert!

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 06:55 AM (eaoOY)

68 from a rock, not Iraq We take full responsibility and blame Siri for the error.

Posted by: WSJ at March 31, 2018 06:56 AM (ws0+2)

69 Shhh. Don't tell anyone, but we grow 'em here in Texas too... --- Quit enticing people to move here!!! Fire ants, mosquitoes & Zika, scorpions, snakes, tornadoes, droughts, hurricanes, flash floods, 100+ degree summers 13 months of the year, full of Deplorable Bible thumpers, gun loving NRA members, no culture at all, and extremely racist people among a few things./

Posted by: lin-duh at March 31, 2018 06:56 AM (kufk0)

70 N Y Post:

A violent immigrant who humiliated federal agents by escaping custody at JFK Airport in a taxi three days ago was nabbed Friday afternoon sipping a cup of coffee in a Chicago Starbucks, law-enforcement sources and his barista told The Post.

Not sure why I find this funny, and they left out the word  illegal....

Posted by: Colin at March 31, 2018 06:56 AM (JYJCX)

71 i guess i sound spoiled. sorry

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 06:57 AM (eaoOY)

72 Iraq? This thread is lost.

Posted by: Hairy Reid at March 31, 2018 06:57 AM (q7oNT)

73 Depends on your weather and land preference. We wanted a "big city" not too far away, but warm temps and flat (ish) land, so SE Texas (Conroe area) fit the bill. Nice thing is that health care is a big deal in Texas - so close to major care (Texas Med Ctr), then local hospitals...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 31, 2018 06:57 AM (7LY+6)

74

 

I'm a bit hokey when it comes to "Good Friday." I don't mean disrespect to the religious aspect of the day, but I love the idea of reminding folks that any day can become "good," all it takes is a little selflessness on our own part. Works EVERY time.

 

After all it's not an important holiday like Earth Day.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 31, 2018 06:57 AM (lKyWE)

75 lin duh is trying to crush my hope.

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 06:57 AM (eaoOY)

76 willow, I read no desert as no dessert, and was rather horrified! When we checked out Texas, we went to Round Rock and the surrounding suburbs, really liked the area. Affordable and close enough to Austin for entertainment.

Posted by: IC at March 31, 2018 06:57 AM (gcme+)

77 ty Anon. i will realtor dot com that area.

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 06:58 AM (eaoOY)

78 The pali's deliberately bring their children into "conflict/war zones" to get them hurt and/or killed. It serves their purpose of making Israel bad. It just shows how evil they are by using their own children as shields. Posted by: lin-duh at March 31, 2018 11:46 AM (kufk0) I'm sure that's what that Central American horde marching through the enemy state of Mexico has planned.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 31, 2018 06:58 AM (y7DUB)

79 69. And cartel deffskwadz. And random bombings.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 31, 2018 06:59 AM (fA1SL)

80 Test.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 31, 2018 06:59 AM (NWiLs)

81 IC neat, will also check that out, i hope to find a buy with my parameters. And i like dessert!

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 06:59 AM (eaoOY)

82 Weird. I tried posting an Iraq joke with a sock and it wouldn't work.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 31, 2018 07:00 AM (NWiLs)

83 Your fine willow, we are happy to have you. There is great health care in Houston and San Antonio and many surrounding suburban areas that are still affordable.

Posted by: lin-duh at March 31, 2018 07:00 AM (kufk0)

84 oh man avocados, one of my favorite foods. i can see selling out for that. Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 11:49 AM (eaoOY) Heh. Here in flyover country, they sell us avocados. At the regular grocery store, right next to the ripe red tomatoes. In the middle of winter. Which, to me, is proof that capitalism works beautifully. The more those idiots leftists mess with it, the less we're going have fresh veggies in winter. Now THAT is worth fighting for!

Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2018 07:00 AM (Pz4pT)

85 Trump going after Amazon for taking advantage of USPO. I've never understood Bezos having WaPo go all in on Trump hate.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2018 07:01 AM (pV/54)

86 I'm sure that's what that Central American horde marching through the enemy state of Mexico has planned.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 31, 2018 11:58 AM (y7DUB)


Who is providing water, food and shelter for this horde???

Posted by: Colin at March 31, 2018 07:01 AM (JYJCX)

87 It's like a bad Seinfeld routine. "Hey why do they call it Good Friday. What's so good about it." Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2018 11:54 AM (pV/54) That's gold, Jerry! Gold!

Posted by: Kenny Bania at March 31, 2018 07:01 AM (Dp6qK)

88 In an era with so much information so easily available and checked, its truly shocking someone could publish something that ignorant. Seriously, its a few button pushes away to get a definition, exact verse, spelling, etc. And they couldn't even be bothered to do that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2018 07:01 AM (39g3+)

89 You're not your. We do have some grammar in Texas...yay!

Posted by: lin-duh at March 31, 2018 07:01 AM (kufk0)

90 Franky the Red represents the leftist guerilla wing of the clergy. He's nothing more than a lickspittle for for tyrants to control the masses.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 31, 2018 07:02 AM (6Rh3r)

91 oh, to have a pope who is an unapologetic defender of the faith..#comeonHolySpirit

Posted by: IC at March 31, 2018 07:03 AM (gcme+)

92 Shhh. Don't tell anyone, but we grow 'em here in Texas too... --- Quit enticing people to move here!!! Fire ants, mosquitoes & Zika, scorpions, snakes, tornadoes, droughts, hurricanes, flash floods, 100+ degree summers 13 months of the year, full of Deplorable Bible thumpers, gun loving NRA members, no culture at all, and extremely racist people among a few things./ Posted by: lin-duh at March 31, 2018 11:56 AM (kufk0) Oh my, I don't want all that, it sounds... Hey! You're trying to KEEP me away, aren't you!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at March 31, 2018 07:04 AM (Pz4pT)

93 I'm sure that's what that Central American horde marching through the enemy state of Mexico has planned." Hmm. "Camp of the Saints" was fiction, no?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 31, 2018 07:04 AM (7LY+6)

94 86: Mexico. Probably a design of some commie think tank to start shit on the border.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 31, 2018 07:04 AM (6Rh3r)

95 You're not your. We do have some grammar in Texas...yay!

Posted by: lin-duh at March 31, 2018 12:01 PM (kufk0)


Only around Austin, the rest of you are just shit kickers.

Posted by: Colin at March 31, 2018 07:04 AM (JYJCX)

96 We do have some grammar in Texas" Y'all y'all.... BBL *grins*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at March 31, 2018 07:04 AM (7LY+6)

97 Who is providing water, food and shelter for this horde???
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Dopey Popey with his Peter's Pence slush fund.  At least my parish stopped the special donations for that one.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 07:05 AM (MIKMs)

98 g'afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 31, 2018 07:05 AM (ZFDo0)

99 Lin duh, i am hoping for that, Spouse cannot take any more stress re finance, He hung in there for much longer than he actually should have, I'm trying to find a way to hold him up health wise, while minimizing his responsibility to everyone else.

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 07:06 AM (eaoOY)

100 I've never understood Bezos having WaPo go all in on Trump hate. To protect them from the usual suspects. Their business practices are everything the left hates, and worse. So he buys the Washington Post and turns it into a leftist mouthpiece, to keep them happy and ignoring his horrific abuse of workers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2018 07:06 AM (39g3+)

101 I thought it was the land of MILFs and honey.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 31, 2018 07:06 AM (+y/Ru)

102 Who is providing water, food and shelter for this horde??? Posted by: Colin at March 31, 2018 12:01 PM (JYJCX) Whore-hey Ramos's home country has been facilitating this destabilizing mass.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 31, 2018 07:06 AM (y7DUB)

103 i'm on my third cup of coffee this morning, not sure why I am drinking this much caffeine..but am ready for anything!

Posted by: IC at March 31, 2018 07:07 AM (gcme+)

104 I'm sure that's what that Central American horde marching through the enemy state of Mexico has planned. Posted by: Captain Hate Light the Rio Grande on fire with bunker oil.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 31, 2018 07:07 AM (r9UYA)

105 94 86: Mexico. Probably a design of some commie think tank to start shit on the border. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 31, 2018 12:04 PM (6Rh3r) I expect Trump to have a plan and bloody the nose of the leftists who will try to turn this into a humanitarian crisis right before the elections.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 31, 2018 07:07 AM (Dp6qK)

106 I thought Moses brought the water from four rocks???

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at March 31, 2018 07:07 AM (ewxPW)

107 Only around Austin, the rest of you are just shit kickers.
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Sorry, but all I could see was 'better than Austin shit lickers'.  Hangs head in shame.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 07:07 AM (MIKMs)

108 IC, haha, feel like tackling plumbing ?

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 07:07 AM (eaoOY)

109 It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're a Fool. Than to Speak and Remove All Doubt go full Wall Street Journal.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 31, 2018 07:08 AM (+y/Ru)

110 Over the last 25 years, Mexico has been the launching pad for the largest mass movement of people in world history. Historians would call it an invasion had it been resisted. Even an act of war, hadit not been invited by our government.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2018 07:09 AM (pV/54)

111 Hey y'all, remember I live in Austin.....so be nice. There are several of us here in enemy territory.

Posted by: lin-duh at March 31, 2018 07:10 AM (kufk0)

112

 

Trump going after Amazon for taking advantage of USPO. I've never understood Bezos having WaPo go all in on Trump hate.

 

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2018 12:01 PM (pV/54)

 

 

I'd  be willing  to  bet  Jeff Bezos  still thinks he's going to win. It's  the    type  of   arrogance   that  can  only  come  from  imense power

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 31, 2018 07:10 AM (lKyWE)

113 I've never understood Bezos having WaPo go all in on Trump hate. To protect them from the usual suspects. Their business practices are everything the left hates, and worse. So he buys the Washington Post and turns it into a leftist mouthpiece, to keep them happy and ignoring his horrific abuse of workers. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2018 12:06 PM (39g3+) Exactly, the whiney NPR stories about the mom and pop stores that have driven out of bidness by the eeeeeevil robber barons of Walmart could be aimed at him otherwise.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 31, 2018 07:10 AM (y7DUB)

114 willow, plumbing?? only if you want me to exacerbate the problem! Sorry to hear about the problems you have been having and the stress your husband is going through. It is always so tough to worry endlessly about finances.

Posted by: IC at March 31, 2018 07:10 AM (gcme+)

115 Rock on the water. A fire in the sky....

Posted by: Deep Purple at March 31, 2018 07:10 AM (IqV8l)

116 111 Hey y'all, remember I live in Austin.....so be nice. There are several of us here in enemy territory. Posted by: lin-duh at March 31, 2018 12:10 PM (kufk0) The hipster has a waxed mustache. Repeat, the hipster has a waxed mustache.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 31, 2018 07:11 AM (NWiLs)

117 I made marinaded pork tenderloin on the grill last night...surprisingly it was a hit.

Posted by: lin-duh at March 31, 2018 07:12 AM (kufk0)

118 ignoramous, i have often wondered why we don't upend their leaders. unless they are in cohoots with some of our betters for slave labor. We can annex them or allow them to be free, But supporting them sideways isn't helpful to Mexico's citizenry or ours.

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 07:12 AM (eaoOY)

119 116. * consults codebook. Finds page and ohrase. Breaks out CW kit & morse key * John has a fixed-gear bike.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 31, 2018 07:12 AM (fA1SL)

120 Correction: our article said that Jesus talked on water, when the actual reference is that he walked on water. We apologize for this confusion. Also, we apologize for referring to Paul as spreading the massage of the gospel. That should have read "message"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 31, 2018 07:12 AM (39g3+)

121 lin-duh, when we were checking out the area last year, we loved the food and music scene downtown. Beats anything Cali has to offer, hands down. And that was my husband's words as a native Californian.

Posted by: IC at March 31, 2018 07:12 AM (gcme+)

122 Hmm. "Camp of the Saints" was fiction, no?

Like nations without borders, so are the fictions without paragraphs of our lives.

Posted by: The Days Of Our Lives at March 31, 2018 07:13 AM (tOVw/)

123 willow, it sounds like you're looking for small town, northeast Kansas to me. Hour to an hour and a half to Kansas City with KU Med Center which is at or near the top in pretty much every medical catagory. Housing and land more affordable than you would expect. Of course there's the whole no trees, lakes, hills or culture thing. Especially culture. No wineries with singer/songwriter trios playing in them.

Posted by: teej at March 31, 2018 07:14 AM (ZCD4H)

124 "The more those idiots leftists mess with it, the less we're going have fresh veggies in winter. Now THAT is worth fighting for! Posted by: BurtTC

greenhouse tomatoes ... not that hard, especially south of the MasonDixon line.  Made in America!  Might cost a bit more in winter.  Not sure about the avocados, but some cities are having to organize their own militias to keep the drug cartels from seizing the avocado farms, they are that profitable.

Blood diamonds, now blood avocados?

Posted by: illiniwek at March 31, 2018 07:14 AM (bT8Z4)

125 Governor Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown pardoned 5 criminal illegal aliens whose crimes include (1) Kidnapping and Robbery (2) Badly beating wife and threatening a crime with intent to terrorize (3) Dealing drugs. - Was one of the named Barabbas?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 31, 2018 07:14 AM (+y/Ru)

126 IC, ty, He won't be going through this anymore if i can find a way to release him from what He presumes is a constant responsibility. and it's not, Just his mindset.

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 07:14 AM (eaoOY)

127 John has a fixed-gear bike. Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 31, 2018 12:12 PM (fA1SL) Message recieved. The PBR is cold. Over and out.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 31, 2018 07:14 AM (NWiLs)

128 Hey y'all, remember I live in Austin.....so be nice. There are several of us here in enemy territory.

Posted by: lin-duh at March 31, 2018 12:10 PM (kufk0)


We all outside of Texas remember Governor Wendy Davis, a bright light in Texas....whoops sorry, she lost.  Google has endless articles on how great she was...or would have been.

Posted by: Colin at March 31, 2018 07:14 AM (JYJCX)

129 @willow If the US didn't allow poor Mexicans to leave and make money to send home, there'd be a Mexican revolution. It's a caste-driven society.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2018 07:15 AM (pV/54)

130 Probably a design of some commie think tank to start shit on the border.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 31, 2018 12:04 PM (6Rh3r)


"The caravan is organized by the immigrant rights group Pueblo Sin Fronteras who have been posting updates about the caravan's journey through Mexico."
FromWZ

If I were to bet I'd put my money on Pueblo Sin Fronteras being commie.

Posted by: X-ray at March 31, 2018 07:15 AM (TGrKk)

131 teej i actually have looked at Kansas, i just have no idea when i'm looking blindfolded what i'm looking at.. is there a crack house next door? lol

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 07:16 AM (eaoOY)

132 We all outside of Texas remember Governor Wendy Davis, a bright light in Texas....whoops sorry, she lost. Google has endless articles on how great she was...or would have been. Posted by: Colin at March 31, 2018 12:14 PM (JYJCX) Abortion Barbie. Used her husband then threw him away. Stands firm for the wanton slaughter of innocent babies. What a leader! What a shining example for the next generation of women!

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 31, 2018 07:16 AM (NWiLs)

133 ignoramous, I've read that, the indian Mexicans against the Spanish elite?

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 07:17 AM (eaoOY)

134 lin-duh -- Since I am in Illinois (northeastern), I fully recognize the 'points of light' in the area.  Austin is a lot better off than us flatlanders.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 07:17 AM (MIKMs)

135 Where was I? Where WAS I??? Well, I was DEAD for three days!!!

Posted by: Jesus: The NPR Interviews at March 31, 2018 07:17 AM (O5Q3r)

136 133. Yep. Mestizos y indios contra los Hidalgos.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 31, 2018 07:18 AM (fA1SL)

137 i should say the Spanish conquistadors. (more useful term for the chaotic times they wish for)

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 07:18 AM (eaoOY)

138 If I were to bet I'd put my money on Pueblo Sin Fronteras being commie. I bet it wouldn't take much to discover the anti-Christ George Soros' tentacles all over it. When will someone get serious about the threat he poses to us and start shutting down his Marxist organizations? He's poisoning our society and sowing chaos and he makes no bones about it. He wants to destroy us while making as much money as he can.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster [/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2018 07:19 AM (GdWl+)

139 Palp, exactly, we have no skills, we know this stuff, but never make use of it.

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 07:19 AM (eaoOY)

140 I'll have Iraq of lamb.

Posted by: Sheep Smith at March 31, 2018 07:20 AM (fZlu3)

141 in defense of Ill. they have the most awesome old affordable homes on the market. too bad they aren't safe.

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 07:21 AM (eaoOY)

142 Why aren't citizens of California marching on the governor's mansion with pitchforks and torches and truck loads of tar and feathers? Because they agree with his actions?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 31, 2018 07:22 AM (IqV8l)

143 Thing is, without an airtight border, anything sporty down Mexico way can and will spill over into Texas. Nobody wants that. It's a paradox, or a dilemma, or whatever you want to call it, but here we are. Last Mexican Revolution, Texas did okay, and got a crap-ton of wealthy upperclass Mexican families to immigrate. A lot of them still run San Antonio.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 31, 2018 07:22 AM (fA1SL)

144 in defense of Ill. they have the most awesome old affordable homes on the market. too bad they aren't safe.

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 12:21 PM (eaoOY)


Much like Detroit, many, many affordable old homes, once pride of the neighborhood.  Maybe slightly burnt now, but with a few dollars, a real fixer upper. 

Posted by: Colin at March 31, 2018 07:23 AM (JYJCX)

145 144. Meh. Move to Texas. Buy some land out in Guadalupe, Comal, or other counties. Plunk a travel trailer on it. Construct Festung Gringo Malo.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 31, 2018 07:25 AM (fA1SL)

146 Why isn't there a law requiring a health warning on all DNC commercials and literature? Exposure to this has been proven to cause mental illness.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 31, 2018 07:25 AM (nBr1j)

147 Colin, in srsness, They are gorgeous and reminiscent of a time where America felt and was prosperous. What do these states have in common one would ask?

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 07:26 AM (eaoOY)

148

 

Because they agree with his actions?

 

 

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 31, 2018 12:22 PM (IqV8l)

 

 

Actually a poll taken   shows 54% don't agree and think the State should work with ICE.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 31, 2018 07:26 AM (lKyWE)

149 Crack house next door? Are you kidding? Can't spit without hitting one. Seriously though, stay out of KC and Lawrence. Other than that, towns like mine in the two to four thousand population range (not even a stop light in my town) can offer some pretty fine living.

Posted by: teej at March 31, 2018 07:26 AM (ZCD4H)

150 Much like Detroit, many, many affordable old homes, once pride of the neighborhood. Maybe slightly burnt now, but with a few dollars, a real fixer upper.
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Fix it up and watch your property taxes quadruple in less than a year.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 07:26 AM (MIKMs)

151 in defense of Ill. they have the most awesome old affordable homes on the market. too bad they aren't safe.

Posted by: willow at March 31, 2018 12:21 PM (eaoOY)

You can be safe inside one of those homes. Just buy my wonderful product.

Posted by: Kevlar wallpaper salesman at March 31, 2018 07:27 AM (TGrKk)

152 Hell don't exist, dudes and dudettes! So party on!!!

Posted by: Pope Frankie Fabulous I at March 31, 2018 07:28 AM (O5Q3r)

153 When will someone get serious about the threat he poses to us and start shutting down his Marxist organizations? He's poisoning our society and sowing chaos and he makes no bones about it. He wants to destroy us while making as much money as he can. Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at March 31, 2018 12:19 PM (GdWl+) I believe Pakistan kicked out all of his dogshit organizations, at least they planned to and those Islamic fuckheads rarely backtrack on things they perceive as in their interest, unlike the lefty dimwits here. Too bad they didn't slice him pie hole to asshole with a scimitar on his way out.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 31, 2018 07:29 AM (y7DUB)

154 Fix it up and watch your property taxes quadruple in less than a year.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 12:26 PM (MIKMs)


And don't forget, Detroit has an income tax on the money you might beable to make.

Posted by: Colin at March 31, 2018 07:29 AM (JYJCX)

155 Another missed opportunity to type and delete.

Posted by: Burger Chef at March 31, 2018 07:30 AM (RuIsu)

156 in defense of Ill. they have the most awesome old affordable homes on the market. too bad they aren't safe.
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Northwest quarter of IL also has absolutely stunning landscapes.  Sister just sold up from Chicago suburbs and bought there for retirement.  Small 'gentleman farmer' place, but absolutely beautiful glacial cuts.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 07:31 AM (MIKMs)

157 If the coastal areas of California split away from all us deplorables how much are we charging them for water?  To start, I mean.

Posted by: Huckleberry Follywood, Quoi? at March 31, 2018 07:32 AM (rBnYq)

158 Ok, print being a tad small is getting to the old eyes. Back to the original 20,000 leagues under the sea.

Posted by: teej at March 31, 2018 07:32 AM (ZCD4H)

159 I don't know how anyone can remain a Catholic when the Pope is spewing this nonsense. And don't tell me he was misquoted, the Pope could have easily come out and made a statement reaffirming that yes, there is a Hell, just like Jesus talked about frequently in the Gospel and died for our sins to save us from going there.

Posted by: Jackso at March 31, 2018 07:33 AM (uc45P)

160 Detroit also has a new and magnificent trolley system that can get you almost anywhere.

Posted by: Colin at March 31, 2018 07:34 AM (JYJCX)

161 Per Flawless Male Logic above, surveys consistently show CA not much different from the rest of the country on things like amnesty, border security, etc.  The better/more expensive the survey, the more pronounced this result.


And it's not some sudden discovery of adult, responsible, reasonably courageous character among the elected drones of several counties and their sheriff's departments that has led to the emerging revolt against the "sanctuary" law.  The county supervisors and city councils are feeling some kind of heat. 


The country as a whole opposes amnesty, wants a secure border, abhors lawlessness on the official level.  Yet ..... look at what our national legislature does on these issues.


There's a broken link between electorate and government on these and other issues.  That's kinda sorta the whole thing with the Tea Party sentiment and amazing organic grassroots revolt.  CA just has a very bad case of that broken link.  A bit more to it than that, but let's get back to the illiterate CA-bashing that the HQ has now raised to a high art.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 31, 2018 07:34 AM (QDnY+)

162 From the movie And God Spoke..., here's Soupy Sales as Moses, trying to get some product placement in a Biblical movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hcl6jzgFu4 Method Jesus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5XztYH-X-o

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 31, 2018 07:34 AM (qJtVm)

163 If Mexico refuses to allow central Americans to settle in the country, and forces them to keep moving until they reach Texas or Arizona, does that make Mexico more racist than America?

Posted by: Huckleberry Follywood, Quoi? at March 31, 2018 07:34 AM (rBnYq)

164 The Gardening Thread is up. Or you can stick around here.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at March 31, 2018 07:35 AM (BVQ+1)

165 There's a broken link between electorate and government on these and other issues. That's kinda sorta the whole thing with the Tea Party sentiment and amazing organic grassroots revolt. CA just has a very bad case of that broken link. A bit more to it than that, but let's get back to the illiterate CA-bashing that the HQ has now raised to a high art. Posted by: rhomboid ______ Obviously not everyone that lives in California is a moon bat liberal, but eventually you have to blame the voters. Republicans can't even qualify on the ballot anymore, that's how lopsided Democrat the place has become. I will say though if somebody over there was smart, they'd put a Sanctuary City ban on the state ballot, I bet even a majority of Californians would back Trump on this.

Posted by: Jackso at March 31, 2018 07:37 AM (uc45P)

166 The country as a whole opposes amnesty, wants a secure border, abhors lawlessness on the official level. Yet ..... look at what our national legislature does on these issues. There's a broken link between electorate and government on these and other issues. That's kinda sorta the whole thing with the Tea Party sentiment and amazing organic grassroots revolt. CA just has a very bad case of that broken link. A bit more to it than that, but let's get back to the illiterate CA-bashing that the HQ has now raised to a high art. Posted by: rhomboid at March 31, 2018 12:34 PM (QDnY+) The GOPe is still taking money shots from Tom Donohue on open borders bullshit. They aren't quite as open about it ever since Eric Cantor got rolled but until every fucking one of those shitheads will join with their Uniparty brethren on selling us out until they are removed. Trump explicitly understood that.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 31, 2018 07:39 AM (y7DUB)

167 165 I will say though if somebody over there was smart, they'd put a Sanctuary City ban on the state ballot, I bet even a majority of Californians would back Trump on this. Posted by: Jackso at March 31, 2018 12:37 PM (uc45P) Yeah, and then a judge would overturn the result, if it didn't go the "right" way.

Posted by: rickl at March 31, 2018 07:39 AM (sdi6R)

168 our filipino priest offers prayers for the Holy farter

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 31, 2018 07:40 AM (0O7c5)

169 161. The broken link is the lack of meaningful accountability in elected and appointed officials. Their actions, over time, accrete and end up causing their opponents to move away, and their favored groups and classes to move in.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 31, 2018 07:40 AM (fA1SL)

170

 

There's a broken link between electorate and government on these and other issues. That's kinda sorta the whole thing with the Tea Party sentiment and amazing organic grassroots revolt. CA just has a very bad case of that broken link. A bit more to it than that, but let's get back to the illiterate CA-bashing that the HQ has now raised to a high art.

 

Posted by: rhomboid at March 31, 2018 12:34 PM (QDnY+)

 

 

I think many people don't realize that Ca has more registered republicans than any othe r state   in  the  country   with the exception of Texas and  democrats aren't the only party that raises boatloads of money in here.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 31, 2018 07:41 AM (lKyWE)

171 Detroit also has a new and magnificent trolley system that can get you almost anywhere. Posted by: Colin What'd I say? MONORAIL!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 31, 2018 07:41 AM (IqV8l)

172 Moses brought water from Iraq? Bibi didn't know t about Moses strriking the rock, eh? uh, umm. sure Our Father who art in heaven, Harold be thy name ^^^ said by a child. There's no excuse for religiously illiterate and anti Semitic adults /journalists

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 31, 2018 07:41 AM (tpDAe)

173 Obvious Reason #245 A Physically Secure Border is Desirable


The slow-motion bum rush coming through Mexico at the moment would come up against an impassable system of barriers.


Oh.  Now what.


They'd still be in Mexico.  Mexico's problem.  Gigantic PR flop.  Fizzle-ville.


But I keep forgetting, barriers are easily defeated, tunnels, hang gliders, cherry-picker cranes, trampolines, etc.  And internal enforcement is all that's needed (which is especially idiotic when talking of the yuuuge %, which this stupid caravan exemplifies, of those fitting in the would-be asylee, refugee, dependent categories, where "workplace enforcement " is irrelevant).

Posted by: rhomboid at March 31, 2018 07:42 AM (QDnY+)

174 "Is the Pope Catholic?" used to be a comically rhetorical question....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 31, 2018 07:43 AM (BRvh1)

175

 

Our Father who art in heaven, Harold be thy name

 

 

And lead us snot into temptation

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 31, 2018 07:43 AM (lKyWE)

176 Detroit also has a new and magnificent trolley system that can get you almost anywhere. Posted by: Colin What'd I say? MONORAIL! Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 31, 2018 12:41 PM (IqV8l) Hopefully one of the stops on this line is "Not Detroit".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 31, 2018 07:45 AM (BRvh1)

177 Hark! Harold the angel sings. Dude gets around, doesn't he?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster [/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2018 07:46 AM (GdWl+)

178 You know who's responsible for that quote that made the Wall Street Journal look bad? THE JOOS!!!

Posted by: O'Brien at March 31, 2018 07:47 AM (O5Q3r)

179 If the journalists weren't so prejudiced against Israel and the Jewish and Christian religions, and Iraq so religiously oppressive, "Moses got water Iraq" wpuld be kind of amusing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 31, 2018 07:48 AM (tpDAe)

180 But I must admit that Operation Rockin' Freedom does sound cooler.

Posted by: tu3031 at March 31, 2018 07:50 AM (O5Q3r)

181 Jackso, Capt. Hate, and Palp - all three with good correct takes on parts of the problem. 


Jackso, I've heard a lot of talk of exactly that - putting anti-"sanctuary" stuff on the ballot via proposition.  So far, no action.  In the short term, what we're starting to see is county- and city-level action of that sort.  I'm a bit surprised the large number of non-moonbat counties haven't already jumped on this train - maybe it's coming.


Capt. Hate, seems part of the "broken link" is precisely what you talk about - donors vs. voters.  And of course that's a yuuuuge part of Trump's appeal, and rationale, and extends beyond immigration but I think (like others including some controversial pundits) immigration is *the* key issue.


And Palp "replacing the electorate" is of course what's talked about all the time here and elsewhere, and it's happened in CA to a great extent.  And not just with foreigners - legal or illegal - but generationally.  It's been said many times before - death of aerospace in SoCal, disappearance of military from Bay Area, all as "education" and pop culture were taking a dramatic dive into idiocy.  You put this on top of the historical passivity of CA voters in the golden era (precisely because things *were* very well run), and you have today.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 31, 2018 07:50 AM (QDnY+)

182 Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at March 31, 2018 12:46 PM (GdWl+) Funny how all the angels are named Harold. No angels with feminine names? Somewhere someone is triggered. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 31, 2018 07:50 AM (tpDAe)

183 "the indian Mexicans against the Spanish elite?" Exactamundo

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2018 07:55 AM (pV/54)

184 I will say though if somebody over there was smart, they'd put a Sanctuary City ban on the state ballot, I bet even a majority of Californians would back Trump on this.

Posted by: Jackso at March 31, 2018 12:37 PM (uc45P)
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chances are, our SecState would find a reason it didn't qualify, and, if it did and actually passed, someone would sue, our AG would refuse to defend, and the  courts would claim no one else had standing to defend.

been there, done that.

Posted by: redc1c4 [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at March 31, 2018 07:56 AM (uPF0t)

185 You no disrespect me or I'll have you reincarnated as a lower life form rather than let you into Nirvana.

Posted by: Pope Frank at March 31, 2018 07:58 AM (fZlu3)

186 Heh, FS. "Toxic masculine angels..."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster [/i][/s][/b] at March 31, 2018 07:58 AM (GdWl+)

187 All done plumbing for today, replaced a shut off and reconnected the two lines it goes to. Just noticed I gave blood doing it.

Posted by: Skip Go Cats! at March 31, 2018 07:59 AM (aC6Sd)

188 The cowardice and stupidity of the CA GOP, and the sort it attracts to office (at least in coastal areas) cannot be overlooked in assessing the disaster out here.


When Trump visited San Diego recently, not only did the "Republican" mayor not meet with him, but served up his characteristic, jaw-droppingly pathetic mewling crap about "building bridges" and dissing border security (in a place that HAS border barriers, going on a few decades, and of course would be insane chaos without them).  THAT is the level of idiocy of much of the CA GOP.


So when a voter ponders their choices ...... they often have none, in effect.  And now, with the ridiculous new-ish system of two top vote-getters being on the general election ballot (every election is now essentially a run-off, with the second/final stage in November), there are literally no GOP candidates for many posts. 


Let's see if the current mini-revolt against the "sanctuary" law builds - and if, in a dramatic change, the Trump administration takes serious action against CA - giving the sane, suppressed majority something to hang onto, and some implicit cultural tolerance for their horrible, hatey, racist-ey leanings ......

Posted by: rhomboid at March 31, 2018 08:00 AM (QDnY+)

189 And redc with the excellent, depressing reminder that the lawlessness of the judiciary, the collapse of the constitutional system nationally, plays a large role in CA's predicament.


Prop 187 (welfare for illegals), Prop 8 (marriage redefinition).  CA voters being evil and hatey, by decisive margins, against the usual top-down mau-mau'ing.  No problem!  Lawsuit (without merit).  State (lawlessly) refuses to defend, essentially default loss in lower court.  State either doesn't appeal at all, or someone else appeals, and is denied standing. 


Bingo!  Obviously constitutional, entirely sensible decision by the actual voters is vacated, crushed, dismissed. 


A lot of what is wrecking CA is national institutional degradation, which threatens every state, even magical ones like TX.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 31, 2018 08:06 AM (QDnY+)

190 "[Amazon] business practices are everything the left hates, and worse. So [Bezos] buys the Washington Post and turns it into a leftist mouthpiece, to keep them happy and ignoring his horrific abuse of workers." The Left is like the medieval Catholic Church. They hate religious Jews and sell indulgences.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2018 08:06 AM (pV/54)

191 Rhomboid's points about the judiciary in CA are spot on, especially so about the voter referendums on gay marriage and welfare for illegals that were overturned by the gaming of the judicial system. Judge shopping by the Left has turned into sophisticated gamesmanship when lower court judges issue national dictates. I'm praying that Judge Contreras gets implicated in the Flynn Frame, to expose this.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2018 08:12 AM (pV/54)

192 69 Shhh. Don't tell anyone, but we grow 'em here in Texas too...
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Quit enticing people to move here!!!
Fire ants, mosquitoes & Zika, scorpions, snakes, tornadoes, droughts, hurricanes, flash floods, 100+ degree summers 13 months of the year, full of Deplorable Bible thumpers, gun loving NRA members, no culture at all, and extremely racist people among a few things./ Posted by: lin-duh
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I love it when you talk that way lin-duh.

Be there in 12-18 months.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 31, 2018 08:12 AM (9rIkM)

193 Trump tweets can be Scenes From Coming Attractions. McCabe got hit months before he got fired. Trump recently put a target on Jimmy Drama Comey. My spidey sense says that there will be a rash of leaking indictments, many of which will involve WaPo.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2018 08:17 AM (pV/54)

194 Whew!  Granddog is gone for the afternoon to be shown off with grandson to son and dil's friends.  Back later tonight, but she was having problems letting the resident dog and cat nap or sleep overnight.  Bless her heart, she just goes right to the crate when I say Time Out, so she is at least conscious that she has pushed too far.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 08:18 AM (MIKMs)

195 Governor Moonbeams actions make no sense, not even on the level of feelz. He wouldn't act any differently if he had a stated mandate to destroy California and bring about a dissolution of the U.S.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at March 31, 2018 08:19 AM (nBr1j)

196 chances are, our SecState would find a reason it didn't qualify, and, if it did and actually passed, someone would sue, our AG would refuse to defend, and the courts would claim no one else had standing to defend. been there, done that. Posted by: redc1c4 _______ Giving up is exactly what liberals want us to do. If judges want to strike down a law that makes local law enforcement cooperate with federal law enforcement on immigration, make these judges beclown themselves by saying its unconstitutional. I could even see the Supreme Court siding with Trump on this.

Posted by: Jackso at March 31, 2018 08:20 AM (uc45P)

197 If you changed Calf governor for Canada's PM you would hardly notice except the sound bites

Posted by: Skip Go Cats! at March 31, 2018 08:21 AM (aC6Sd)

198 The cowardice and stupidity of the CA GOP, and the sort it attracts to office (at least in coastal areas) cannot be overlooked in assessing the disaster out here.
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Cowardice and stupidity is the same as IL GOP.  SMDH over the nastiness.  At least CA has temperate weather.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 08:21 AM (MIKMs)

199

 

Governor Moonbeams actions make no sense, not even on the level of feelz. He wouldn't act any differently if he had a stated mandate to destroy California and bring about a dissolution of the U.S.

 

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at March 31, 2018 01:19 PM (nBr1j)

 

 

Oh  come  on! How can  the  state   going  after   businesses  for  complying   with  federal   law   on   immigration  hurt   Ca.?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 31, 2018 08:22 AM (lKyWE)

200 The cowardice and stupidity of the CA GOP, and the sort it attracts to office (at least in coastal areas) cannot be overlooked in assessing the disaster out here. ===== Cowardice and stupidity is the same as IL GOP. SMDH over the nastiness. At least CA has temperate weather. Don't forget about us.

Posted by: WA GOP at March 31, 2018 08:24 AM (r9UYA)

201 It's not just Commiefornia that the RINOs have sold out on issues important to the base. Here in Ohio voters overwhelmingly approved a Defense of Marriage Act but rock ribbed Repuke Rob Portman had a deep conversation with his homo son and decided to go on MessNBC to talk about his "evolution" on marriage which meant the will of the voters didn't mean a fucking thing to the backstabbing prick.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 31, 2018 08:24 AM (y7DUB)

202 Thank God Jules changed the alarm back to something mellow. I've got a bad cold and didn't need the jarring thing she had set. It was something like shrieking...WAKE UP, it's a Sharknado. Get moving if you want to live, stay away from the windows! LMFAO

Posted by: Farmer at March 31, 2018 08:27 AM (yJ1e6)

203 I didn't read the links to the papal denial of hell. However I did hear that Vatican bigshots are trying to Frankiesplain his stupid comments away.

Posted by: kallisto at March 31, 2018 08:27 AM (kD8Fh)

204 The Prez should also tweet how Moonbeam's pardons are not given to Americans, only foreigners, and how many Democrat prosecutors have simply stopped charging illegals. When I Was a Kid(tm) only the Clintons had their own personal US Code.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 31, 2018 08:27 AM (0IaIs)

205 UNESCO is one of the most insidious parts of the UN. It's unfortunate that so many countries are easily bribed into funding it by receiving "world heritage site" designations. As if the approval of a group of UN bureaucrats is more important than the landmarks themselves.

Posted by: Sjg at March 31, 2018 08:27 AM (gDSJf)

206 Moses Zeppelin: It's been a long time since Iraq and rolled. Ohh baby, carry my water, carry my water, carry my water

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2018 08:27 AM (SiINZ)

207 BurtTC #15: I am convince the Fresh Pope is more of an idiot than he is evil. It's entirely possible he is both.

Posted by: kallisto at March 31, 2018 08:29 AM (kD8Fh)

208 197 If you changed Calf governor for Canada's PM you would hardly notice except the sound bites Posted by: Skip Go Cats! at March 31, 2018 01:21 PM (aC6Sd) Sadly true.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at March 31, 2018 08:30 AM (nBr1j)

209 I miss Pope Benedict.  I'm not Catholic, but I did marry Catholic.  I've also had the pleasure of reading some of Benedict's writing.  For all the crap that people gave about him looking scary or unfriendly, the guy is clearly sharp and perceptive.  I still have some quotes copied down.

Posted by: Bitblt at March 31, 2018 08:30 AM (2PCxr)

210 Pennsylvania's GOP wasn't even able to privatize the state-run liquor stores. Now, thanks to the court-mandated redistricting, they may lose their majority in state government soon. Oh, and did I mention that only one PA Republican voted against the recent omnibus monstrosity?

Posted by: rickl at March 31, 2018 08:31 AM (sdi6R)

211 anyhoo When Pope Frankie celebrated the San Gennaro feast, the saint's blood liquefied. This only happens during times of upheaval. Sometimes it has presaged earthquake; sometimes World War. This time it may have presaged a fake occupier of Peter's throne.

Posted by: kallisto at March 31, 2018 08:32 AM (kD8Fh)

212 the guy is clearly sharp and perceptive. I still have some quotes copied down. Posted by: Bitblt at March 31, 2018 01:30 PM (2PCxr) Remember when he got in trouble shortly after he was seated. He called out the muzzies for their jihadi tendencies.

Posted by: kallisto at March 31, 2018 08:34 AM (kD8Fh)

213 The mayor of Escodido called Brown and Becerra emotionally unhinged and "sanctuary" policy immoral, illegal and unconstitutional. Just so. his town will probaly vote to join the lawsuit against Cali. Turns out, there are a lot of Californians who were just waiting for real American leadership.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 31, 2018 08:34 AM (0IaIs)

214 UNESCO is one of the most insidious parts of the UN. It's unfortunate that so many countries are easily bribed into funding it by receiving "world heritage site" designations. As if the approval of a group of UN bureaucrats is more important than the landmarks themselves.
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Bamiyan Buddhas wave.

Oh, another 'heritage site' gone.  Non-islamic, so doesn't count.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 08:35 AM (MIKMs)

215 Justin has a better wardrobe than Brown. And cigars.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 31, 2018 08:37 AM (0IaIs)

216 However I did hear that Vatican bigshots are trying to Frankiesplain his stupid comments away.
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Pretty astonishing how often the Vatican PR has to Frankiesplain.  Frankie Hollywood seems to have lost his automatic 'mistranslation' pass.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 08:39 AM (MIKMs)

217 *pokes with crozier* Test.

Posted by: Pope Frank at March 31, 2018 08:46 AM (fZlu3)

218 Pretty astonishing how often the Vatican PR has to Frankiesplain. Frankie Hollywood seems to have lost his automatic 'mistranslation' pass. Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 01:39 PM (MIKMs) Most Popes spoke "Ex Cathedra" or "From the Chair". Pope Frankie speaks "Ex Eius Asinus". i.e "From His Ass".

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 31, 2018 08:48 AM (EoRCO)

219 Gipper Lives, Escondido (under the same mayor, I think, who is an immigrant himself ..... Christian Arab?) a while back shocked the conscience of the mindless Californian by doing something common sensical on homelessness (this was as the regional crisis in that was starting).  So, Escondido has been eeeevilll for some time now.


Meanwhile, a few miles away (on the coast, of course), a beach town recently made idiotic noises of the opposite variety, I think on skeery skeery gunzzz or something. 


Disengagement from govt. in general has been a CA disease that I trace back to the golden years, when everything was different (and, in these respects, much better). 


And as you note, and as I imply in my vituperation against the likes of the SD mayor, there is such a vacuum of leadership that everyone might be stunned what would happen if for once there *were* leaders leading.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 31, 2018 08:50 AM (QDnY+)

220 Personally I don't care what a pope says about his own business - religion - but abusing the presumed moral power of the office to promote evil in the world (not an exaggeration) via idiotic pronouncements on temporal matters, well yeah that I find despicable and unacceptable.



Posted by: rhomboid at March 31, 2018 08:53 AM (QDnY+)

221 So, Pope Chauncey Gardener.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at March 31, 2018 08:58 AM (bML9A)

222

 

California suffers from everybody wants to be us disease.The idea that California  as   trend setting state harkens back to the states "golden age." So policy doesn't have to make sense it just has to be   seen   as  setting   a  trend  for  the  rest  of   the  country   to   follow.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 31, 2018 08:58 AM (lKyWE)

223 Haven't read all the details, but sad to see VT finally starting to trash freedom and begin harassing its firearm owners.  VT always has been an anomaly, a "normal" state on gunzz that maintained the historic freedom Americans have had.  Some idiotic law limiting magazine capacity (one of the stand-by idiocies of the authoritarian gun bigots).


I believe the Parkland shooter - he really should be called the "product of the Obama DOJ/DOEd, and Broward Cty sheriff's dept. and school district" - used low-capacity mags (10 rounds).  So obviously limiting THAT aspect of gun accessories f***ing matters for public safety ......

Posted by: rhomboid at March 31, 2018 09:01 AM (QDnY+)

224 Remember when he got in trouble shortly after he was seated. He called out the muzzies for their jihadi tendencies.
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Mutti Merkel was riding high and handsome at the time.  There can be only one.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 09:01 AM (MIKMs)

225 Sam Kinnison-If Jesus had a wife: https://youtu.be/S4rbobz9Ylo

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at March 31, 2018 09:02 AM (Xr82S)

226 And as you note, and as I imply in my vituperation against the likes of the SD mayor, there is such a vacuum of leadership that everyone might be stunned what would happen if for once there *were* leaders leading.
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From my recollection, SD is also home to intensive military training.  Maybe military people do not count (probable).

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 09:06 AM (MIKMs)

227 Justin has a better wardrobe than Brown. And cigars.
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And hair.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 09:07 AM (MIKMs)

228

 

From my recollection, SD is also home to intensive military training. Maybe military people do not count (probable).

 

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 02:06 PM (MIKMs)

 

 

The defense industry is still  big in SD.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 31, 2018 09:08 AM (lKyWE)

229 Pennsylvania's GOP wasn't even able to privatize the state-run liquor stores. Now, thanks to the court-mandated redistricting, they may lose their majority in state government soon. Oh, and did I mention that only one PA Republican voted against the recent omnibus monstrosity? Posted by: rickl at March 31, 2018 01:31 PM (sdi6R)
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I hate Illinois Nazis.  ILGOP couldn't even manage that one.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 09:15 AM (MIKMs)

230 re: census question When the Hillary States give drivers licenses to illegals (and register them to vote automatically) they must determine citizenship and mark the licenses differently. The number 15 to 20 million illegals is often used--maybe they're afraid we'll find out there are that many in CA alone.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 31, 2018 09:17 AM (0IaIs)

231 I schooled the boyfriend of a dear college friend. He was beating the drum of "Easter comes from the pagan Ester." I gently told him that's English, whereas in Romance languages it's Pascua, Pâques, etc. In other words, references both to Passover and the Paschal Mystery. So all the origin of the word Easter proves is the Anglos really like to reuse old words for new things.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 31, 2018 09:18 AM (G8B7r)

232 SD's military presence is actually DOD, not much industry any more.   There is the (very quiet) drone/UAV industry here, which sort of replaced the conventional metal-bending aerospace sector (sort of - much smaller).  And the even quieter UUV (robot sub) industry.


Should really see if anyone's checked this rigorously, but my impression is that SD is - by far - the largest major metropolitan area (top 10 in size) with a major military presence.  Unique. 


And, without further checking, the only such major metro with large military presence/history outside the south, or TX.  And of course the only one in CA.  This I think exerts some inertial drag on CA idiocy here.  But a diminishing one, due to growth and continued dumbing-down of the populace (both adult and esp. kids in the "education" industry's control).

Posted by: rhomboid at March 31, 2018 09:23 AM (QDnY+)

233 I saw Peter Wolf -- frontman for The J Geils Band - last night. He still brings it. Great varied setlist. Included one of my favorites, Nothing but the wheel. Bronx boy Wolf goes country https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO-59By1_Rg Guess who does the backing vocal

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2018 09:24 AM (pV/54)

234 Before I get willowed, I will offer this thought. All church property is under the control of the local Bishop (study Apostolic Succession). If Frankie the Red were to get really out of hand, I would not be surprised if many American bishops go the way of the ones in Prussia during Martin Luther's time.

Posted by: JAS at March 31, 2018 09:27 AM (sCN2W)

235 Have not looked for any educated estimates of CA's illegal population.


My uneducated WAG would be 6 to 8M.  Or one-fifth to one-quarter of the total population.  Maybe a bit smaller.


And why TF doesn't Washington impose restrictions making drivers' licenses for illegals invalid outside the state of issue?  How can the original rulings making such credentials valid nation-wide protect licenses issued, knowingly, to illegals?  Federal pre-emption should rule, just as federal  gunzzz laws hang on *inter-state* activity.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 31, 2018 09:27 AM (QDnY+)

236 Guess who does the backing vocal Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2018 02:24 PM (pV/54) They do? It doesn't sound like Burton Cummings or Randy Bachman

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 31, 2018 09:31 AM (SiINZ)

237 Ingraham to take a week "Easter break" from show. Weak.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 31, 2018 09:32 AM (r9UYA)

238 Was looking for a doggeh to adopt when I was out. No luck. Guess it's time to start on cooking and housework.

Posted by: Infidel at March 31, 2018 09:34 AM (a3OL0)

239 Just saw the worst political l bumper stickerron a car any the market, a car driven by and older woman who was obviously a Hillary voter. One part of it said "Women against Trump". O.k. That's not the really bad part. The rest said "Not my furhrer". I was wonderingering if the second part was put up after the election? I had not seem a bumper sticker that vitriolic before. I'm praying for this woman. I wondert if she would tell Jewish voters who voted for Trump that they're Nazis too? Yeah, i guess so. Ugh!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 31, 2018 09:35 AM (tpDAe)

240 I don't wanna alienate potential atheist Catholics, so I gotta be careful how I phrase things.

Posted by: Pope Frank at March 31, 2018 09:35 AM (fZlu3)

241 Posted by: NaughtyPine at March 31, 2018 02:18 PM (G8B7r) Yes, the hysteria over the term "Easter" derived from some pagan goddess is terribly anglocentric. And parochial.

Posted by: kallisto at March 31, 2018 09:35 AM (kD8Fh)

242 Why would someone call themself a Catholic if they were an Atheist?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 31, 2018 09:38 AM (tpDAe)

243 There are lots of atheist Catholics. They vote pro-choice.

Posted by: JAS at March 31, 2018 09:39 AM (sCN2W)

244 So all the origin of the word Easter proves is the Anglos really like to reuse old words for new things. Also, the only reference to supposed pagan goddess Eastru is from a Christian hymn, I believe. No Old Norse parallels that I can recall. I've seen a theory that the name may be no more than a personification of Dawn, which makes sense.

Posted by: Grey Fox at March 31, 2018 09:40 AM (bZ7mE)

245 I wouldn't worry about the desire to call Easter "Resurrection Day" or "Pascha." Just say, O. K The important thing is that we're celebrating the glorious resurrection of Jesus from the dead. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 31, 2018 09:40 AM (tpDAe)

246 The Jews ostracize you if you convert to Christianity, but not to Communism.

Posted by: JAS at March 31, 2018 09:40 AM (sCN2W)

247

 

 SD's military presence is actually DOD, not much industry any more. There is the (very quiet) drone/UAV industry here, which sort of replaced the conventional metal-bending aerospace sector (sort of - much smaller). And the even quieter UUV (robot sub) industry.


 

Genral Dynamics is still   there.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 31, 2018 09:41 AM (lKyWE)

248

General

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 31, 2018 09:41 AM (lKyWE)

249 Fenelonspoke, Did I tell you that I love you?

Posted by: JAS at March 31, 2018 09:41 AM (sCN2W)

250 SD? South Dakota or San Diego?

Posted by: JAS at March 31, 2018 09:42 AM (sCN2W)

251 Posted by: JAS at March 31, 2018 02:39 PM (sCN2W) Well, you can describe them anyway you want but I think that (if they're calling themselves Catholics) makes them people who believe in God but are against the stated theology of the church which is cleary pro-life from conception.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 31, 2018 09:43 AM (tpDAe)

252

 

There are lots of atheist Catholics.

 

I believe the technical term is cafeteria Catholics

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at March 31, 2018 09:44 AM (lKyWE)

253 Fenelonspoke, Did I tell you that I love you? Posted by: JAS at March 31, 2018 02:41 PM (sCN2W) Thanks. What brought on this sudden ardency? ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 31, 2018 09:44 AM (tpDAe)

254 I have loved you for a long time. Love your posts. In a brotherly way, so don't quit your husband and show up at my door, please.

Posted by: JAS at March 31, 2018 09:46 AM (sCN2W)

255 obviously a Hillary voter. One part of it said "Women against Trump". O.k. That's not the really bad part. The rest said "Not my furhrer" Hillary is her furher.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 31, 2018 09:46 AM (IqV8l)

256 Ushering at church tomorrow. Dealing with the C and E Catholics is so much fun.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 31, 2018 09:47 AM (89T5c)

257 Yeah, I plan to get to church early so I can get a seat.

Posted by: JAS at March 31, 2018 09:49 AM (sCN2W)

258 SD = San Diego, when I'm commenting.


General Dynamics, Lockheed-Martin - several of the few surviving huge merged defense contractors have a presence here, but it's nothing like it was up until the 80s.  Economy is much larger/more diverse, population same, defense contractor sector is limited.  I noted the major players above.


Actual uniformed military, + dependents, are the big presence now.  Of course that was even bigger in the old days of a conscript Navy.  But actual serving military is the biggest presence.  Camp Pendleton, Miramar, Pacific fleet. 


Retired population also still a big presence in SD County.  Probably a bit less "conservative" than 20+ years ago, when that was also a factor in SD's non-moonbat politics.


Lots of wheels turning in this matter, as is often the case. 


Just waiting to see if central coast (CaliGirl's hood) and Central Valley/rural counties will pile on here in revolt against Sacto and the racist-authoritarians.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 31, 2018 09:52 AM (QDnY+)

259 Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 31, 2018 02:47 PM (89T5c) I will deal with them too-just not as many. I look at it this way. They feel some sort of yearning to get in touch with the real meaning of the faith, or they go to make their family happy. Consider praying that they become active Catholics again who love the Eucharist and the beauty of the faith. If it's the second just think, "Well that's a nice thing to do that for their family and may they rediscover the beauty of the faith and the unchanging God who loves them and wants to be in relationship with them. :^) Because you never know-Your friendliness and smile may be a factor in their return to the church.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 31, 2018 09:53 AM (tpDAe)

260 Posted by: JAS at March 31, 2018 02:46 PM (sCN2W) Thanks. That's very kind. Don't worry I didn't think you wanted to date me. :^) Anyway. FenSpouse wouldn't approve either and the dear man has been helping me with church things all day.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 31, 2018 09:55 AM (tpDAe)

261 Why would someone call themself a Catholic if they were an Atheist?
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Cultural Catholic.  I think similar to Jewish JINOs.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 31, 2018 09:56 AM (MIKMs)

262 Judge's death gives Trump the opportunity to overhaul the liberal 9th Circuit -waexaminer B. McTurtlehead better grease the skids for these appointments.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 31, 2018 09:57 AM (r9UYA)

263 One of the more discouraging things I've come across, CA Catholics (I mean *active*, husband goes on retreats, they f***ing do CCD classes in their home - far far more seriously involved than most parishoners) who donate to PP.  Oh yes. 


Of course this is of a piece with their whole ignorant basis in politics - do they even understand the basic facts about things they are obnoxiously strident about?  Generally, no.


These people are Planned Parenthood devout Catholics, who also were up in arms (properly) about teacher union insanity when their kids were in school.  Gun owners.


And yet they are fanatical, FANATICAL Dem supporters - in a state where the Dem party has long been radically pro-abortion, where the teacher's union literally runs the party and the state (not really an exaggeration), and where shredding the 2A is reaching NJ/NY levels.  NPR and MSM consumers.


It's enough to make one give up.
 

Posted by: rhomboid at March 31, 2018 09:58 AM (QDnY+)

264 I had not seem a bumper sticker that vitriolic before. I'm praying for this woman.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 31, 2018 02:35 PM (tpDAe)


Well you're a better catholic than me. When it comes to that breed of stupid I'm more of a kill 'em all and let god sort them out type of dude.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at March 31, 2018 09:58 AM (aMlLZ)

265 Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at March 31, 2018 02:58 PM (aMlLZ) Well, dear., I'm sure you're a better Catholic than I am-as I'm not a Catholic. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 31, 2018 10:02 AM (tpDAe)

266 Guess who does the backing vocal Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2018 02:24 PM (pV/54) Without looking, I know Shelby Lynn has done some work with the Woofa Goofa before.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 31, 2018 10:03 AM (y7DUB)

267 Mick Jagger does the backing vocal on Nothing but the Wheel. It's great country.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 31, 2018 10:10 AM (pV/54)

268 Posted by: rhomboid at March 31, 2018 02:58 PM (QDnY+) That's too bad!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 31, 2018 10:19 AM (tpDAe)

269 Just waiting to see if central coast (CaliGirl's hood) and Central Valley/rural counties will pile on here in revolt against Sacto and the racist-authoritarians. Posted by: rhomboid at March 31, 2018 02:52 PM (QDnY+) The central coast has been reliably left-wing for awhile now, and the valley is starting to turn purple. The foothills and the mountains are just about the only solid conservative parts of left of the state, and those are sparsely populated.

Posted by: Sjg at March 31, 2018 10:22 AM (gDSJf)

270 http://bit.ly/2pTynMY ----------- Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte Discusses Prosecutor Huber and McCabe Firing The Last Refuge

Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 31, 2018 10:34 AM (y3aQB)

271 Just caught up on the Pope's latest mumble-fest. Something is wrong. The man he was when he started in the position, and where he is now, are extremely different. So, I think -general dementia -onset of alzheimers -bad advisors A combo platter of above. Or, maybe he needs an Exorcism. I'm not kidding. Not after this latest ramble. I was shocked to hear Mother Teresa was put through one. Which made me angry. I figured she just needed anti-depressants. I'm very, very skeptical about the whole exorcism thing. But it is the church, and their pope has gone rogue and is nothing like the original guy. And heck, if Mother Teresa was vulnerable, this pope must be. I still am going with dementia and bad advisors. But this talk about "no hell" and vast difference with scripture makes me think of darker forces. And well, it's Easter weekend. If the pope is right, Jesus has gotta be wondering why he bothered with the whole cross thing. Jk

Posted by: prof disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at March 31, 2018 11:27 AM (9/OH8)

272 I agree with the pope on this one. What kind of God would torture his creation for billions and billions of years for the sins of 80 years?

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid, at March 31, 2018 11:38 AM (YILzG)

273 6 It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're a Fool. Than to Speak and Remove All Doubt .

Posted by: X-ray at March 31, 2018 11:20 AM (TGrKk)



Perhaps, but then Huffington Post would be nothing but blank screens and Google ads.



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 31, 2018 01:02 PM (UsCnO)

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