January 30, 2017

Quebec Mosque Shooters Identified; Reporters Stop Speculating About Motive, So You Know What That Means
— Ace

Murders are only important if they advance preferred media narratives.

Also, open thread on the Sean Spicer press conference. I'm just catching up with it (I had the DVR on delay).

Apologies again. I think this is going to be a half day. Maybe a quarter day.

I'm putting together a (very small) home gym and I had to get rid of bookcases to fit it all in my very small apartment. And then, to store those books, I had to put in a bunch of (high) wall shelves.

I honestly don't know how you people who work manual labor jobs do it. Pretty much every muscle in my body hurts, especially the back from the constant bending over and stooping.

And standing on ladders with my forehead pressed firmly against a shelf to hold it in place while I use my one hand to hold a screw and the other to hold the screwdriver.

By the way, I thought I had a drill that could drill (and drive screws) through studs. I did not. What I had was two pieces of shit which, combined together, made up a collection of shit that took up more space in my tool drawer than a single piece of shit would.

The things could not even push past the first eighth inch of drywall. The easiest part.

It's like, "Hey, thanks Tool. Thanks for getting me past that first easy eighth inch. I'll take it the rest of the way, now that you've gotten me off to such a swell start. You take a well-earned break, and get back to napping in that drawer. I'll power through the rest of this with my forearms and my dinky little ratchet."

I literally was just pushing on the drill to make a small starter hole for the screw, like it was a poorly-balanced nail with a pistol grip.

It's a poor workman who blames his tools, but I think you can all agree I am a poor workman in the first place, and these really are shitty, shitty tools.

I ordered a drill/driver that I hope will be better even though I'm done with the shelves (for now). I just don't ever want to have to touch these two pieces of shit again. I actually want to have a ceremony where I turn their backs on them and then push them past my back in a Walk of Shame, out to the garbage.

I might piss on them too. Really. I might take them into the bathroom, piss on them (into the toilet), wrap them in a garbage bag and just let them smell their failure.

By the way, now that I've put up six shelves, I want to put up shelves everywhere. Everywhere I look I see walls that could be filled with shelves, high as the eye can see.

Anyway, I'm physically and mentally drained. Yes, I'm a pussy. This is not really a question. But being on step-ladders all day and hand-screwing into studs is tough for someone who, as you know, is rapidly approaching 29 years old.

On the plus side, it turned into a genuine workout day.

I'll put up crap here and there and do a GAINZZZ thread. But mostly I'm going to put up headlines, open threads, whining about my shoulders, and bragging about my Put Shelves On Everything design aesthetic.

BTW, if anyone wants to call me Shelvey, I'd like that just fine.


Posted by: Ace at 09:54 AM | Comments (997)
Post contains 606 words, total size 3 kb.

1 st

Posted by: Eggo at January 30, 2017 09:55 AM (cpLq8)

2 In before the Scorpion!

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 09:55 AM (QQ+il)

3 Ok Shelvey

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 30, 2017 09:56 AM (8hICw)

4 Make 29 year olds great again!

Posted by: MTF. Is a visa required to enter Brentwood? at January 30, 2017 09:57 AM (X4ZNp)

5 I ordered a drill/driver

No Home Depot handy?  I've actually got 3 now from moving around.  Sometimes you need a hole in MD and the drill is still in NJ.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 30, 2017 09:57 AM (8J/Te)

6 Yes i'm Serious... And don't call me Shelvy.

Posted by: Fox at January 30, 2017 09:57 AM (DVC2D)

7 It's just one shooter, he's some white quebecois guy, and if liking Dawkins on your FB page makes you an atheist, we've got an atheist.

Posted by: DDT at January 30, 2017 09:58 AM (DUynq)

8 Make America Shelve Again!

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 30, 2017 09:58 AM (Om16U)

9 Ace, This is where you buy a case of beer and invite friends to help.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2017 09:58 AM (92kX2)

10 Without pics of said shelves?

Posted by: Pilum57 at January 30, 2017 09:58 AM (h6RBT)

11 They'll be speculating about motive again VERY shortly, by the looks of it.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at January 30, 2017 09:59 AM (4bKiB)

12 So it's Shelvey now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 09:59 AM (PY9jH)

13 A DeWalt cordless drill is very good.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Bans, Slams, and Frenzies! Midwinter Sale at the Outrage Outlet! at January 30, 2017 09:59 AM (hLRSq)

14 7 It's just one shooter, he's some white quebecois guy, and if liking Dawkins on your FB page makes you an atheist, we've got an atheist. -- I thought the mosque attendees said there were 2 shooters before anyone was arrested.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 30, 2017 09:59 AM (Om16U)

15 Ace, make sure you screw into a stud. Get it?! Get it?!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 09:59 AM (UBQ2A)

16 * note to self: DIY school in major metropolises. $$$ *

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at January 30, 2017 09:59 AM (DNPz2)

17 Go to Home Depot and buy a Ridgid drill/driver combo. When you get it home make sure you register it. It has a lifetime warranty and will serve your every need.

Posted by: Bill R. at January 30, 2017 09:59 AM (jKUeC)

18 Appears that Bissonette is the only suspect for now Funny though isn't it how in this case they're quick to call it terrorism but when a muzzie does it they call it a "lone wolf attack by a mentally disturbed individual"

Posted by: kbdabear at January 30, 2017 09:59 AM (Ya7zs)

19 No Home Depot handy? Exactly. Go get a Mexican to build it for you.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 09:59 AM (QQ+il)

20 He wants more GAINZZZZ!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 09:59 AM (BjrOM)

21 Ugh, sorry Ace. I hate DIY home improvement jobs of any kind and outsource it to folks who love doing it and are good at it. win-win.

Posted by: IC at January 30, 2017 09:59 AM (a0IVu)

22 And standing on ladders with my forehead pressed firmly against a shelf to hold it in place while I use my one hand to hold a screw and the other to hold the screwdriver. Every handyman worth his well fitted out toolbox has a Helper. amirite?

Posted by: kallisto at January 30, 2017 09:59 AM (nNdYv)

23 Ace I bust hump every work day all day, my advice is never stop.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 09:59 AM (0AwCy)

24 Shelvy, ya could have subcontracted that out to busty lesbian carpenters. Who like hotcakes. But spendy. Seriously, welcome to the world of home maintenance and improvement Ace. It gets better. Soon you'll be doing sheet rock and rewiring the entire room, while putting in LED fluorescent assemblies.

Posted by: NaCly Dog [/i] at January 30, 2017 10:00 AM (u82oZ)

25 That reminds me, I need to find me one of those old-fashioned manually-operated drills. My dad had an ancient one around when I was a kid. Wish I had managed to hang onto it. For the Burning Times.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 30, 2017 10:00 AM (ul9CR)

26 Looks like Brian Ross has found himself a Tea Partier this time.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:00 AM (UBQ2A)

27 For me, it's 18 Volt or nothing. Admittedly, I'm not a very handy guy.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 10:00 AM (xeeHA)

28 I'm suffering a minor rage headache thanks to TFG. 

Someone needs to encourage him to go golfing in Iraq. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 10:00 AM (PY9jH)

29 Had I not stood in front of the hail of bullets, probably 65 or 70 would have died in that mosque.

Posted by: Brian Williams at January 30, 2017 10:00 AM (77i7V)

30 Remember, the media calls Canadian mass shooter Gamil Gharbi by the much less muslimy sounding nams Marc Lepine. Whatever they say will probably be a lie.

Posted by: Lord Sir x at January 30, 2017 10:00 AM (nFwvY)

31 JavaScript hijacker ad (?) on AoSHQ affecting iPhone.

Posted by: filbert, home again jiggidy-jig at January 30, 2017 10:00 AM (GjSGU)

32 Willowed in last thread: 526 Interesting comments over at Small Dead Animals about the Quebec shooting. The American media won't draw distinctions between whites, but the whole thing is a bit awkward for the Canuck MSM because the dude is French Canadian. Apparently, they'd feel a lot better if the guy was named Tom Smith, since the Frenchies have their own "we are victimized by the Anglos" thing going on up there. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 30, 2017 02:55 PM (ZM2xo)

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 30, 2017 10:00 AM (ZM2xo)

33 >>>No Home Depot handy? I've actually got 3 now from moving around. Sometimes you need a hole in MD and the drill is still in NJ. i had gone to Home Depot earlier to get some stuff I needed (drywall anchors, laser level, etc.) *but* I thought I had the drill part taken care of. By the time I realized the drills were atrocious, it was kinda late. Actually I probably still could have gone but I am so lazy that I often avoid work, even if that work would save me work down the line. This is what lazy people do, and why they are always scrambling to get poor results.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:01 AM (8rNrN)

34 16 * note to self: DIY school in major metropolises. $$$ * Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2017 02:59 PM (DNPz2) Look up Jimmy Diresta on YouTube.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:01 AM (UBQ2A)

35 damn, i didnt realize you were a few years younger than me ace.  thought you were older especially with your wisdom and cynical views on life.

Posted by: dgdam at January 30, 2017 10:01 AM (9r1/y)

36 O/T:

Politico reporting that Dems will definitely filibuster SCOTUS nominee. Hope turtle immediately pulls out the (used) nuclear option after the first cloture vote.

Posted by: yaedon at January 30, 2017 10:01 AM (qdhQS)

37 If Quebec shooter is ghey, doesn't he get some victim protection in the media?

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 30, 2017 10:02 AM (Om16U)

38 29? Wait until you're pushing 60 and need to get rid of all that stuff you've put on those shelves...

Posted by: TheTruth at January 30, 2017 10:02 AM (Av8i6)

39 Hey shelvey, you got a flat head we can sit our drinks on? Asking for a friend. Also, the ryobi 18volt cordless tool line? Very nice. Very powerful. Perhaps you might find them of interest. Shelvey

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice [/i] [/s] [/b] at January 30, 2017 10:02 AM (J+eG2)

40 RE: Home Depot - NYC seems to have essentially no big-box stores of any kind, including big contractor stores. I think all of NYC pretty much gets all their goods from Amazon, now.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 10:02 AM (xeeHA)

41 He/they(?) screamed "Allah Akbar" so it was totally the Tea Party, amirite?

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 30, 2017 10:02 AM (NOIQH)

42 Could have put first bottom shelf up then had a spacer where the next shelf goes and so on up.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 10:02 AM (0AwCy)

43 Sheetrock anchors ace . You know what they are I presume.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2017 10:02 AM (Z4z/q)

44 >I might piss on them too. Really. I might take them into the bathroom, piss on them (into the toilet), wrap them in a garbage bag and just let them smell their failure.

Works for democrats, too!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 30, 2017 10:02 AM (GX63o)

45 Pro Tip: When driving longer screws, into 'harder' things (like studs), an impact driver works wonders. Even better than a hammer drill.

So, the hot tip is to buy one of the combo kits with a hammer drill and impact driver. DeWalt 20V brushless is my current favorite, but Milwaukee makes a good one, too. Makita, also.

Posted by: Duncanthrax[/i] at January 30, 2017 10:02 AM (DMUuz)

46 My kids use the internet to put up shelves.

Posted by: MTF. Is a visa required to enter Brentwood? at January 30, 2017 10:02 AM (X4ZNp)

47 If Quebec shooter is ghey, doesn't he get some victim protection in the media? Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 30, 2017 03:02 PM (Om16U) I think Muslim trumps gay but I'll have to consult the liberal most favored group of the day chart

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 30, 2017 10:02 AM (493sH)

48 "Pretty much every muscle in my body hurts, especially the back from the constant bending over and stooping."



Quit bending at the waist....bend at the hips. 

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/s][/u] at January 30, 2017 10:02 AM (Enq6K)

49 Was it an ironic hipster "Allah u Akbar?"

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 30, 2017 10:03 AM (Om16U)

50 Apparently, they'd feel a lot better if the guy was named Tom Smith, since the Frenchies have their own "we are victimized by the Anglos" thing going on up there. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 30, 2017 02:55 PM (ZM2xo) mais oui, nous avons notre version d' Intersectionality, n'est-ce pas? Ou est le poutine?

Posted by: kallisto at January 30, 2017 10:03 AM (nNdYv)

51 >>>Exactly. Go get a Mexican to build it for you. i actually wanted to do it. I feel like a pussy every time I call someone to do something that I should be able to do myself. I just wanted it to be easier. (Of course.)

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:03 AM (8rNrN)

52 By the way, I thought I had a drill that could drill (and drive screws) through studs. I did not. What I had was two pieces of shit which, combined together, made up a collection of shit that took up more space in my tool drawer than a single piece of shit would.


Always get the best tools. And the best drill is a Dewalt.


http://amzn.to/2jw4Kv6

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at January 30, 2017 10:03 AM (mpXpK)

53 Makita cordless FTW!!

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at January 30, 2017 10:03 AM (QkJbS)

54 One word, Ace: Pilot Hole.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 10:03 AM (QQ+il)

55 Ace, did you have a recent sex change operation that you didn't tell us about? You should have been able to do all that heavy lifting and screwing with just your Schadenboner.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 30, 2017 10:03 AM (zKIA2)

56 Let's see... I started reading AoSHQ in 2004... and that is 13 years ago... ACE WAS A PRODIGY!

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 10:03 AM (xeeHA)

57 So your "power drill" is just good just to get the tip in? Yeah, I've used that "just the tip" line before. And no, she didn't believe it then either.

Posted by: Semper Why at January 30, 2017 10:03 AM (P2tVV)

58 40 RE: Home Depot - NYC seems to have essentially no big-box stores of any kind, including big contractor stores. I think all of NYC pretty much gets all their goods from Amazon, now. Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 03:02 PM (xeeHA) In Manhattan we have Lowes and two Home Depots, although not with as complete a materials/lumber yard as they have in the boroughs. But we do have them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:04 AM (UBQ2A)

59 i actually wanted to do it. I feel like a pussy every time I call someone to do something that I should be able to do myself. Macho,macho Man....

Posted by: deplorable donna at January 30, 2017 10:04 AM (O2RFr)

60 OT from the last thread: >>> Huff Po had a headline over the weekend that Barry could no longer be silent on these issues. Yes! Save us Barry!! ..... Well, after 8 years of silence, inaction, and bodies piling up at home and abroad, its nice to see he's finally found the time in retirement come off the golf course to weigh in on an issue. Thank you Mr. Former Votes Present. You can go back to shutting the fuck up now. People have work to do... except the massive number of unemployed folks that you stopped counting 8 years ago that is.

Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 10:04 AM (71OEY)

61 NYC seems to have essentially no big-box stores of any kind, including big contractor stores. I think all of NYC pretty much gets all their goods from Amazon, now. Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 03:02 PM (xeeHA) Well, the small corner stores add authenticity. Until Amazon puts them out of business.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2017 10:04 AM (92kX2)

62 Donate Satan's Screwdriver to some wacko group and derive joy thinking about them using it trying to assemble signs.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at January 30, 2017 10:04 AM (FtrY1)

63 NYC seems to have essentially no big-box stores of any kind, including big contractor stores. I think all of NYC pretty much gets all their goods from Amazon, now. Posted by: Moron Pundit * note to self: "find old secret subway tunnels and build contractor store. $$$."

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at January 30, 2017 10:04 AM (DNPz2)

64 Impact drivers  are heaven-sent.  If you had had one, you would have been done in 20 minutes. 

Posted by: irright at January 30, 2017 10:04 AM (pMGkg)

65 He/they(?) screamed "Allah Akbar" so it was totally the Tea Party, amirite?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2017 03:02 PM (NOIQH)



Well, he left the mosque cleaner than he found it, even mopped up the blood and picked up the empty rounds.



So yeah, Tea Partier.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 10:04 AM (PY9jH)

66 Apparently, they'd feel a lot better if the guy was named Tom Smith, since the Frenchies have their own "we are victimized by the Anglos" thing going on up there. Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at January 30, 2017 02:55 PM (ZM2xo) ===================== Wasn't there a Podesta email that said almost exactly that about an earlier shooting? I'm pretty sure there was. And they wonder why Americans begin to think that Democrats don't actually care about their safety.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 10:04 AM (BjrOM)

67 Shelvey, I lost all my tools when I had that 225 lb weight loss that some folks erroneously called my husband excised from my life. Home Depot or Lowes has a decent selection of cordless drills. But then you need to get drill bits or tits or something else. And the charger thingy. It helps if you have a 13 year old son (or neighbor or nephew or something) who wants to show off his manliness. Let the kid do it. You might need to put some adhesive on the shelves to keep stuff from rolling off, but it's a small price to pay.

Posted by: rohon at January 30, 2017 10:04 AM (2l2y6)

68 >>>54 One word, Ace: Pilot Hole. did you not read the post? The drill would not go more than 1/8 inch into the drywall. My pilot hole was limited to one eighth of an inch.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:04 AM (8rNrN)

69 But being on step-ladders all day Welcome to my world, Shelvey! Well, Horde, my day is going swimmingly by which I mean that one of our domestic matter clients took by the insanity of Cthulhu, stop using social media to mean, sure, post everything all the time, that'll be awesome for you. This is where being the assistant and not the lawyer is fantastic as I can go wow this hearing is going to suck for you, okay, dropped you off at the courthouse, have fun!

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 30, 2017 10:04 AM (mf5HN)

70 Maybe this could be an idea for a new weekly thread, ask Shelvey. Maybe not weekly, maybe once.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 30, 2017 10:04 AM (/tuJf)

71 >>Politico reporting that Dems will definitely filibuster SCOTUS nominee. Hope turtle immediately pulls out the (used) nuclear option after the first cloture vote.


Aaaaand Spicer just batted that out of the park by noting that they don;t yet know who the nominee is, so clearly this is politically motivated.
Dems can't say, "No, he/she is unqualified!" now.

It's getting to be like watching the roadrunner cartoon. Dems keep having their ACME rockets go off in their faces.

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 30, 2017 10:05 AM (NOIQH)

72 Okay Shelvey, come out to my beat-up chunk of land in central PA and help me refurbish...well, basically all of it. Because God knows I'm not actually doing it myself. (Would it be okay if you slept in the concrete blockhouse? Don't know how the dogs would react to an Ewok.)

Posted by: joncelli, Deplorable MMA Afficianado at January 30, 2017 10:05 AM (RD7QR)

73 Ace, if you hate having to imagine being on stepladders all day imagine what it's like being AtC

Posted by: Navycopjoe at January 30, 2017 10:05 AM (Knr1N)

74 7 It's just one shooter, he's some white quebecois guy, and if liking Dawkins on your FB page makes you an atheist, we've got an atheist. Posted by: DDT at January 30, 2017 02:58 PM (DUynq) A feminist as well. And a fan of Trump. And Coke and Sprite. But seriously looks very feminine red head white boy who was banging his Muslim Friend. Both were shooters . Muslim claims it was his friend. Trudeau gets to say hey Trump bad. And say hey we need our Atlanta Growth strategy, which is 100% dependent on islmaic immigrants.

Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 30, 2017 10:05 AM (j8aRL)

75 Amazon sells drills for the NYC market in specially designed messenger bags.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 30, 2017 10:05 AM (rF0hx)

76 Was it an ironic hipster "Allah u Akbar"? ===== Look I'm not saying I did it. But IF I did it, I might have done it shouting "Allahu Akbar, motherf*ckers!"

Posted by: O. J. Simpson at January 30, 2017 10:05 AM (4bKiB)

77 Could it be that you were operating the electric drill/screwdriver in reverse? Signed, The voice of experience

Posted by: Mike S at January 30, 2017 10:05 AM (Gyg4r)

78 "You people"?

Really?!?!

*snort*





Posted by: Dirty Randy at January 30, 2017 10:05 AM (jjaLl)

79 71 >>Politico reporting that Dems will definitely filibuster SCOTUS nominee. Hope turtle immediately pulls out the (used) nuclear option after the first cloture vote. Aaaaand Spicer just batted that out of the park by noting that they don;t yet know who the nominee is, so clearly this is politically motivated. Dems can't say, "No, he/she is unqualified!" now. It's getting to be like watching the roadrunner cartoon. Dems keep having their ACME rockets go off in their faces. Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2017 03:05 PM (NOIQH) ====================== Now's the time to put up William Pryor and gun it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 10:05 AM (BjrOM)

80 51 >>>Exactly. Go get a Mexican to build it for you. i actually wanted to do it. I feel like a pussy every time I call someone to do something that I should be able to do myself. I just wanted it to be easier. (Of course.) Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:03 PM (8rNrN) I have no idea what your situation is but shelves are not that big a deal. That said, any kind of installation can be a big pain in the ass if you lack the right tools and materials and don't really know the procedures. If you have a base knowledge of what you need to do and the tools at hand, it's pretty straight forward. That said, an extra set of hands does help.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:06 AM (UBQ2A)

81 Speaking of shitty tools...

Posted by: Barry Soetoro - AA, BFD at January 30, 2017 10:06 AM (HgMAr)

82 DIY school in major metropolises. $$$ *
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2017 02:59 PM (DNPz2)


I seem to recall that these already exist.  They're for hipsters.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at January 30, 2017 10:06 AM (heTCV)

83 What sort of piece of crap tool do you have? Even a cheap Craftsman drill what will drive screws into concrete block. You were using self drilling screws, wern't you?

Posted by: moon over vermont at January 30, 2017 10:06 AM (kUmUV)

84 17 Go to Home Depot and buy a Ridgid drill/driver combo. When you get it home make sure you register it. It has a lifetime warranty and will serve your every need.

Posted by: Bill R. at January 30, 2017 02:59 PM (jKUeC)


Every need?

Posted by: toaster fucker at January 30, 2017 10:06 AM (GX63o)

85 67 . . . It helps if you have a 13 year old son (or neighbor or nephew or something) who wants to show off his manliness. . . Posted by: rohon ___________ Yes! Please go on.

Posted by: Harry Reid at January 30, 2017 10:06 AM (77i7V)

86 imagine what it's like being AtC Getting patted on the head all day?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 10:06 AM (QQ+il)

87 Shelvey, are u sure that the torque is adjusted correctly on your shitty-shit? Having crappy tools only serves to beat you up. Also, get clamps. They hold things in place better than your head does. I say this having learned every damn thing the hard way.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at January 30, 2017 10:06 AM (EZWNE)

88 54 One word, Ace: Pilot Hole. Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 03:03 PM (QQ+il) That's two words.

Posted by: joncelli, Deplorable MMA Afficianado at January 30, 2017 10:06 AM (RD7QR)

89 i had gone to Home Depot earlier to get some stuff I needed (drywall anchors, laser level, etc.) *but* I thought I had the drill part taken care of.

No job is complete with just one (1) trip to the Home Depot.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 30, 2017 10:07 AM (8J/Te)

90 63 * note to self: "find old secret subway tunnels and build contractor store. $$$." Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 30, 2017 03:04 PM (DNPz2) I'm a subway geek and know them all . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:07 AM (UBQ2A)

91 Politico reporting that Dems will definitely filibuster SCOTUS nominee. Hope turtle immediately pulls out the (used) nuclear option after the first cloture vote. Posted by: yaedon at January 30, 2017 03:01 PM (qdhQS) He's dusting off the white flag right now

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 30, 2017 10:07 AM (493sH)

92 Yes, thank you Shelvesplainer or perhaps Drill Master Flaccid.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 10:07 AM (llUHc)

93 *passes to the Empress some Smores and a Hate Shake*

So 'everything' got posted to the world? Oh wow; stick a fork in you Klaus, you are so done.

*spins a platter*
https://youtu.be/psDTiUV0PNI

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 10:07 AM (p77iU)

94 did you not read the post? The drill would not go more than 1/8 inch into the drywall. My pilot hole was limited to one eighth of an inch.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:04 PM (8rNrN)


I'm pretty sure I could use an ice pick and get through dry wall. Burn your drill and your drill bits.

Posted by: yaedon at January 30, 2017 10:07 AM (qdhQS)

95 i wish i'd ordered the impact driver now

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:07 AM (8rNrN)

96 >>Could it be that you were operating the electric drill/screwdriver in reverse? This was my first thought but then I though shirley Shelvey would have checked that. Shirley.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 30, 2017 10:07 AM (/tuJf)

97 There was some stuff about that the mosque was too moderate

Posted by: CBS fired producer Mary Mapes at January 30, 2017 10:07 AM (e8kgV)

98 Could it be that you were operating the electric drill/screwdriver in reverse? Whoa.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 10:07 AM (QQ+il)

99 In Manhattan we have Lowes and two Home Depots, although not with as complete a materials/lumber yard as they have in the boroughs. But we do have them. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 03:04 PM (UBQ2A) ------- Had no idea. Of course, I didn't exactly walk down every street in Manhattan.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 10:07 AM (xeeHA)

100 Right about now, Trump needs to have someone digging up TFG's transcripts, the passport he traveled to Pokeeeeston on, and any other dirt that is out there.  And we all know there's plenty.

Do it, Donald.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 10:08 AM (PY9jH)

101 70 Maybe this could be an idea for a new weekly thread, ask Shelvey. -- That reminds me, whatever happened to our Moron Dating Advice thread? Are there any survivors from the last thread?

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 30, 2017 10:08 AM (Om16U)

102 79 71 >>Politico reporting that Dems will definitely filibuster SCOTUS nominee. Hope turtle immediately pulls out the (used) nuclear option after the first cloture vote. So, the person who is being replaced was a very Conservative Judge... Probably the most Conservative ... The Dems want a LIB? Hey aholes.... Elections have consequences...

Posted by: deplorable donna at January 30, 2017 10:08 AM (O2RFr)

103 Very short of that rotten shit katie couric begging Betty White to trash President Trump. Notice couric's ugly face of disgust when Betty wasn't playing along. And notice Yahoo playing b-roll film of Trump to associate couric's propaganda to Trump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXYqG8ri4po

Posted by: Soothsayer GT with Electronic Fuel Injection at January 30, 2017 10:08 AM (/ZnTF)

104 Well, we now know what was the first film screened in the White House in the Trump era: Finding Dory Of course media is claiming he was watching it while avoiding the refugees stranded in airports, as if he is a heartless monster. Classy.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2017 10:08 AM (hvf9s)

105 My dad, of blessed memory, helped install a lock on my steel apartment door. He was drilling and drilling with no luck and sweating like a pig. After about 15 minutes, he realized he had the drill in reverse. He laughed about it. Miss that old guy every day

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:09 AM (UBQ2A)

106 O/T: Politico reporting that Dems will definitely filibuster SCOTUS nominee. Hope turtle immediately pulls out the (used) nuclear option after the first cloture vote. Posted by: yaedon at January 30, 2017 03:01 PM ( After careful and reasoned contemplation, the Democrat Party has decided that the unnamed US Supreme Court Candidate is too Radical. They have carefully reviewed nothing of his/her record and decided to filibuster the unnamed jurist. Just moar Republican Obstructionism.

Posted by: rd at January 30, 2017 10:09 AM (iT57s)

107 Ace, I am trying to get ready for a visit from my sister and this involves sorting a lot of stuff out to give to the Veterans and makes changes in the room she'll stay, and so I have going up and down stairs, and bending up and down to sort things out or put them in drawers most ion the day, so I understand that achy, sore feeling. But you're 29, right. ;^) I've got quite a bit of time on you, so I hope you'll be feeling better tomorrow.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 30, 2017 10:09 AM (fDdVG)

108 Was it an ironic hipster "Allah u Akbar?" Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 30, 2017 03:03 PM (Om16U) I was thinking the same thing. Let's say it was a "hate" crime against Muslims. Wouldn't it be possible the shooter could say that, as in "Allah Akbar? I'll give you Allah Akbar!" Blam!

Posted by: JoeF. at January 30, 2017 10:09 AM (7uYFy)

109 >>>This was my first thought but then I though shirley Shelvey would have checked that. Shirley. ... come on now No but I had to use the reverse a lot because the screws were not going in. So I'd take them back out, then re-screw them. Screwing multiple times became my "pilot hole."

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:09 AM (8rNrN)

110 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 30, 2017 03:05 PM (rF0hx) Okay, that was funny.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2017 10:09 AM (8cEQL)

111 Amazon sells drills for the NYC market in specially designed messenger bags. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 30, 2017 03:05 PM (rF0hx) -------------- Stylish. Classy.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 10:09 AM (xeeHA)

112 "Could it be that you were operating the electric drill/screwdriver in reverse? Signed, The voice of experience" Been there.....done that. The head Ewok also statistically had a 50/50 chance of putting the wrong end the drill bit into the drill. Not judging.... just asking questions.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice [/i] [/s] [/b] at January 30, 2017 10:09 AM (J+eG2)

113 Get married so you can totally fuck it up and your wife never lets you do anything yourself again. Problem solved.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 10:09 AM (llUHc)

114

That reminds me, whatever happened to our Moron Dating Advice thread?
Are there any survivors from the last thread?

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 30, 2017 03:08 PM (Om16U)



I believe Tammy has threatened to beat the stupid out of us until we stop being so pessimistic. 

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at January 30, 2017 10:09 AM (heTCV)

115 Ace, all you need for a Home Gym is a pair of PowerBlock dumbbells and a bench.

Posted by: Soothsayer GT with Electronic Fuel Injection at January 30, 2017 10:09 AM (/ZnTF)

116 >>>I ordered a drill/driver that I hope will be better

Seems like you went about this backwards. You post that you are buying a new drill after you have already ordered it. If you had posted that you needed a new drill and then waited for the response, you probably would have gotten a lot of good recommendations. Perhaps from people who don't have drawers full of their previous drilling failures.

Not from me though; I think I have around six drills tucked away in various spots, all with assorted shortcomings.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 30, 2017 10:10 AM (R+30W)

117 did you not read the post? The drill would not go more than 1/8 inch into the drywall. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:04 PM (8rNrN) Say what? I can stick my finger through drywall. Are you sure that wasn't a toy kid's drill ... you know, so they can pretend to do stuff and not hurt anything?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 30, 2017 10:10 AM (zc3Db)

118 >>>Having crappy tools only serves to beat you up. Also, get clamps. They hold things in place better than your head does. how would a clamp hold a shelf to the wall? i'm interested -- I just don't understand how this would work.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:10 AM (8rNrN)

119 Ace's birthday is February 37th, which only happens when Saturn and Jupiter change orbits during The Great Cataclysm. Which is why he's been 28 for roughly 20 years.

Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at January 30, 2017 10:10 AM (oZ6kz)

120 Feminists want drills banned because, rape symbol.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:10 AM (UBQ2A)

121 My pilot hole was limited to one eighth of an inch.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:04 PM (8rNrN)


I believe that is still rape.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 30, 2017 10:10 AM (GX63o)

122 Screwing multiple times became my "pilot hole." Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:09 PM (8rNrN) ---------- Hot.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 10:10 AM (xeeHA)

123 Ace: one word on tools: Dewalt. Do not buy anything else that is a power tool (okay, there are some more expensive ones that are equally good or better, but they don't fit in a tool drawer". I've got a small Dewalt driller, screwdriver that I bought 4 or 5 years ago. Built a desk, shelves, and various other furniture items, unbuilt it all and moved it two more times, and performed a wide range of home repair and improvement projects over 4 or 5 years. Just used it again yesterday for a small project. Still have never charged the battery or used the spare it comes with. It will twist your nuts off through drywall and studs.

Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 10:10 AM (71OEY)

124 106 After careful and reasoned contemplation, the Democrat Party has decided that the unnamed US Supreme Court Candidate is too Radical. They have carefully reviewed nothing of his/her record and decided to filibuster the unnamed jurist. Just moar Republican Obstructionism. Posted by: rd at January 30, 2017 03:09 PM (iT57s) ====================== "Well, due to completely unforeseen circumstances, it looks like Republicans will be able to nominate whoever they want to replace the recently deceased Ruth Bader Ginsberg. For some reason, they refuse to self-impose a 60 vote threshold on her replacement. Donate today!" -DNC Email, circa June 2017

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 10:10 AM (BjrOM)

125 Home Gym: Barely used..... Contact Ace....

Posted by: deplorable donna at January 30, 2017 10:10 AM (O2RFr)

126 Yes when you don't have a drill , making a pilot hole by hammering in a nail a bit and taking it out is the way to go. Screw will take and then it's just a mater of manual strength with the screw driver.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2017 10:10 AM (Z4z/q)

127 So, the person who is being replaced was a very Conservative Judge... Probably the most Conservative ... The Dems want a LIB? Hey aholes.... Elections have consequences... Posted by: deplorable donna at January 30, 2017 03:08 PM (O2RFr) THE RATCHET ONLY WORKS ONE WAY!

Posted by: The Left at January 30, 2017 10:10 AM (92kX2)

128 Hey Shelvey ("Ace") what you need is called an "impact driver" and amazingly, it will drive a screw right into a stud effortlessly.

Posted by: looking closely at January 30, 2017 10:11 AM (0hzM1)

129 113 Get married so you can totally fuck it up and your wife never lets you do anything yourself again. Problem solved. Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 03:09 PM (llUHc) "Will you please go down to the basement and make sure your father doesn't blow up the house?!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:11 AM (UBQ2A)

130 how would a clamp hold a shelf to the wall? i'm interested -- I just don't understand how this would work. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:10 PM (8rNrN) With super glue.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 30, 2017 10:11 AM (zc3Db)

131 "my very small apartment" .......... I thought Ace lived in a chateau somewhere in France. With butlers who put up shelves. and maids who... well, you know.

Posted by: wth at January 30, 2017 10:11 AM (HgMAr)

132 Wow....you all are a bunch of internet home-improvement tough-guys.

I am second to none in the number of home improvement projects I have fvcked up and made 10 times as difficult and 10 times as time-consuming because of bone-headed moves.

That being said...putting up shelves is pretty easy....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 30, 2017 10:11 AM (rF0hx)

133 Thank you, AP. *noms and sips* magine what it's like being AtC Getting patted on the head all day? Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 03:06 PM (QQ+il) Oh it's awesome. The head patting. The falling over randomly. The being unable to see my feet. The of course I can't get that, it's on the second shelf. In other news, today is Mommy's 79th birthday. We are going to a grand dinner at Denny's because hey there hi there free Grand Slam. Also my stupid brother and stupid sister in law sent Mommy a stupid nice bouquet and balloon while I forgot Mommy's birthday card at home and now I am not the Best Child. *seethes*

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 30, 2017 10:11 AM (mf5HN)

134 125 Home Gym: Barely used..... Contact Ace....

Posted by: deplorable donna at January 30, 2017 03:10 PM (O2RFr)



OUCH!!!!!



Posted by: Dirty Randy at January 30, 2017 10:12 AM (jjaLl)

135 how would a clamp hold a shelf to the wall? i'm interested -- I just don't understand how this would work. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:10 PM (8rNrN) This is where the extra set of hands and/or Mexican comes in.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:12 AM (UBQ2A)

136 Holes in apartment walls?!?!? You have a very nice landlord. How are those gun laws working for you Canada? So lone muzzie gunmen are wackos but this guy is some evil genius right MSM?

Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 30, 2017 10:12 AM (scP6Z)

137 The best exercise is to wrestle a midget.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 10:12 AM (QQ+il)

138 127 So, the person who is being replaced was a very Conservative Judge... Probably the most Conservative ... The Dems want a LIB? Hey aholes.... Elections have consequences... Posted by: deplorable donna at January 30, 2017 03:08 PM (O2RFr) THE RATCHET ONLY WORKS ONE WAY! Posted by: The Left at January 30, 2017 03:10 PM (92kX2) =================== Hopefully, we'll get a SCOTUS with six or seven conservatives on it before Democrats regain the power to nominate and approve who they want. We'll see if they hold to keeping the court at 9 at that point.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 10:12 AM (BjrOM)

139 >>>That being said...putting up shelves is pretty easy.... it will be easier when I get a drill/driver that works.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:12 AM (8rNrN)

140 It's perfectly normal to wait almsost 16 hours after detaining two suspects to a shooting witnessed by many people to release the actual story. /sarc

Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 30, 2017 10:12 AM (j8aRL)

141 By the way you need a newer model drill with more torque that is adjustable. Also drillbits that aren't made in China, preferably Germany.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 10:12 AM (llUHc)

142 Concrete / block you need a hammer drill ( or at least masonry bits but good luck drilling without a masonry drill) For screws only you can't beat a impact screwgun bit drilling but small holes is a problem. A screwgun with a chuck will get you through most jobs.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 10:12 AM (0AwCy)

143 Ace, if you order one of the DeWalt 20V hammer drill / impact driver combo kits off the Home Depot website, they'll throw in another bare cordless tool for free (choice of 1 out of 10).

You may be able to pick it up at your local HD if it's in stock. Otherwise, they'll ship it to it for free.

Posted by: Duncanthrax[/i] at January 30, 2017 10:12 AM (DMUuz)

144 I want an update from the Moron who was picking up a gal at the funeral home.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 30, 2017 10:12 AM (Om16U)

145 did you not read the post? The drill would not go more than 1/8 inch into the drywall. My pilot hole was limited to one eighth of an inch. Sounds like you hit the one in a billion steel I-beam shot.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at January 30, 2017 10:12 AM (MZVOx)

146 Ace is almost 29 like I'm almost 29.

Posted by: kathysayso at January 30, 2017 10:12 AM (43OZ6)

147 127 So, the person who is being replaced was a very Conservative Judge... Probably the most Conservative ... The Dems want a LIB? Hey aholes.... Elections have consequences... Posted by: deplorable donna at January 30, 2017 03:08 PM (O2RFr) THE RATCHET ONLY WORKS ONE WAY! Posted by: The Left at January 30, 2017 03:10 PM (92kX2) *Trump flips the switch* DAMMIT!

Posted by: The Left at January 30, 2017 10:12 AM (92kX2)

148 --
So, the person who is being replaced was a very Conservative Judge... Probably the most Conservative ... The Dems want a LIB? Hey aholes.... Elections have consequences...
Posted by: deplorable donna at January 30, 2017 03:08 PM
-------------

Yep.  If Trump goes to the right on his second vacancy, the real test will occur.  I fully expect the usual squishes to abandon him then.

Posted by: irright at January 30, 2017 10:13 AM (pMGkg)

149 Could it be that you were operating the electric drill/screwdriver in reverse?

Whoa.


Well there's no italics switch so something had to give.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 30, 2017 10:13 AM (8J/Te)

150 i like the drills that have a light. That impresses me. And the drill bit thing is magnetized or something. I just supervise while the work is happening. Favorite tool of all time is the computer/plasma cutter. That thing is cool. You can make all kinds of neat stuff and not waste any metal.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2017 10:13 AM (8cEQL)

151 In other news, today is Mommy's 79th birthday. We are going to a grand dinner at Denny's because hey there hi there free Grand Slam.

Also my stupid brother and stupid sister in law sent Mommy a stupid nice bouquet and balloon while I forgot Mommy's birthday card at home and now I am not the Best Child. *seethes*

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 30, 2017 03:11 PM (mf5HN)


Your mommy has a great birthday date!



Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/s][/u] at January 30, 2017 10:13 AM (Enq6K)

152 I am second to none in the number of home improvement projects I have fvcked up and made 10 times as difficult and 10 times as time-consuming because of bone-headed moves. That being said...putting up shelves is pretty easy.... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 30, 2017 03:11 PM (rF0hx) ---- I insist on a "1 in, 2 out" policy for home improvements. For every one thing I fix, I break two other things.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 10:13 AM (xeeHA)

153 121 I believe that is still rape. Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 30, 2017 03:10 PM (GX63o) New meaning to "just the tip."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:13 AM (UBQ2A)

154 The drill has a switch for clockwise and counterclockwise. Drill bits work best when rotating clockwise. What are the odds?

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at January 30, 2017 10:13 AM (Eyx+b)

155 On Quebec shooting, how cynical am I that when I heard about it, first thing I thought was "probably rival Muslims".


Posted by: looking closely at January 30, 2017 10:13 AM (0hzM1)

156 btw one of the shelves was right in the corner so there wasn't much room for my actual hands to turn the screwdriver. Lot of knuckles getting rapped and scraped. a driver really would have been helpful there.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:13 AM (8rNrN)

157 I'm desperate for the Senate Dems to filibuster the SCOTUS nomination. Please. I actually think it's possible. They really are in fairly panicked, fund-raising mode. And when they do this, the major benefit will be the gun to McConnell's head. Shelves. Last set I put up (small cabinet from Ikea), to my amazement, they had holes in the wrong places. I actually spent time confirming this, as it seemed so unlikely. Anyway, ended up drilling my own holes, apparently perfectly. Damn ice-backs!

Posted by: rhomboid at January 30, 2017 10:13 AM (QDnY+)

158 Also, if it is an older building with the old school plaster, those bastards won't budge without a masonry bit. And anchoring into it is yet another challenge.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at January 30, 2017 10:14 AM (EZWNE)

159 I need to fix my new book case to the wall. It's actually 4 cube book cases, so I need to attach them to each other first. #TwoWeeks

Posted by: josephistan at January 30, 2017 10:14 AM (7HtZB)

160 We'll see if they hold to keeping the court at 9 at that point. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 03:12 PM (BjrOM) -------- My crystal ball says, no. They won't.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 10:14 AM (xeeHA)

161 Shooter update: http://tinyurl.com/z89p45z (From Gates of Vienna)

Posted by: RKae at January 30, 2017 10:14 AM (EnhfY)

162 Ace's birthday is February 37th, which only happens when Saturn and Jupiter change orbits during The Great Cataclysm. Which is why he's been 28 for roughly 20 years. Posted by: broseidon being a capitalist pigdog (yknow, working) at January 30, 2017 03:10 PM (oZ6kz) It's the dawning of the Age of Acequarius..Age of Acequaris..

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 30, 2017 10:14 AM (493sH)

163 One day, in the future, robots will do all common physical labor and all we will have to do is program the robots.

Posted by: Naughtchoes at January 30, 2017 10:14 AM (/5NOC)

164 The best exercise is to wrestle a midget.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 03:12 PM


You have to let AtC win once in a while, or she gets cranky.

Posted by: Duncanthrax[/i] at January 30, 2017 10:14 AM (DMUuz)

165 And I guess the Empress needs new boots?

http://www.shoebuy.com/demonia-muerto-2028/699155/1436544

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 10:14 AM (p77iU)

166 Home gym = Sex robot

Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 30, 2017 10:14 AM (j8aRL)

167 139 it will be easier when I get a drill/driver that works. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:12 PM (8rNrN) You can borrow mine.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:14 AM (UBQ2A)

168 >>> And the drill bit thing is magnetized or something. what an innovation that my stupid Retard Drill did not have. And let me tell you, it's so much fun trying to just balance a one and a half inch screw at the end of an unmagnetized bit.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:14 AM (8rNrN)

169 how would a clamp hold a shelf to the wall? i'm interested -- I just don't understand how this would work. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:10 PM (8rNrN) Depends on the type of shelf. If you're doing a shit ton more shelves, I also recommend and attachment for your drill that holds the screw in place on the drill. The make some that flip over to a drill bit too if you're pr drilling holes. They're about a buck or so. Leaves your hands free and saves fingers for more inept handy people.

Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 10:14 AM (71OEY)

170 120 Feminists want drills banned because, rape symbol.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 03:10 PM (UBQ2A)


Yes, please! That would be lovely for them to further isolate themselves from common sense and reality and logic.

Posted by: yaedon at January 30, 2017 10:14 AM (qdhQS)

171 You have to let AtC win once in a while, or she gets cranky. Hey, My monies on Her....

Posted by: deplorable donna at January 30, 2017 10:14 AM (O2RFr)

172 >>Wow....you all are a bunch of internet home-improvement tough-guys. Some of us were cursed/blessed with a father who was ridiculously good at this stuff. Like remodel a house good. And mother's who said "If your father can do that well then so can you". And we were for all intents indentured servants. Some of that stuff has to rub off by osmosis.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 30, 2017 10:15 AM (/tuJf)

173 I envy your shelf building skills. I bought one from Target and couldn't follow the directions. I'm not mechanical like that.

Posted by: Mike at January 30, 2017 10:15 AM (xnQYd)

174 144 I want an update from the Moron who was picking up a gal at the funeral home. Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 30, 2017 03:12 PM (Om16U) Some of us are burning to know. Some literally.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2017 10:15 AM (92kX2)

175 Please stop telling Ace about hammer drills. If he uses that on Sheetrock and studs he'll be drilling into his neighbors living room.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 10:15 AM (llUHc)

176 You know who else wanted to be called Shelvey? Hitler, that's who.

Posted by: Marmo, not a historian at January 30, 2017 10:15 AM (xujbM)

177 Yes, I'm a pussy. This is not really a question.

You know, when you start out the discussion that way, no Man's Man will ever mock you. They...understand.

But "those of us" who drive nails and screw screws 'n' shit about every day, herd them sheep, chop that firewood, when we get called Something Less Than A Man for having a monthly gym subscription that's less than our Movie Channel, sometimes we offer to arm-wrestle. Or dick-measure, what have you. There's gainzz, and gainzz.

BRB, just heard Trump cancelled all the EPA regs, and there's a stream in the back 40 I've been waiting to pee in. One more press conference, and I could do it from here.   

Posted by: Stringer Davis[/i][/b] at January 30, 2017 10:15 AM (H5rtT)

178 Posted by: Mike at January 30, 2017 03:15 PM (xnQYd) I search for a YouTube video to help me.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2017 10:16 AM (8cEQL)

179 174 144 I want an update from the Moron who was picking up a gal at the funeral home. Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 30, 2017 03:12 PM (Om16U) Some of us are burning to know. Some literally. Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2017 03:15 PM (92kX2) ==================== Seawolf Did you ever update us? Did we miss it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 10:16 AM (BjrOM)

180 Screwing multiple times became my "pilot hole." Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:09 PM (8rNrN) --- Nope. Too easy.

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 10:16 AM (CRotO)

181 Just be glad you don't have plaster and lathing. Obnoxious. My wife refuses to live in houses younger than 100 years.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 10:16 AM (xeeHA)

182 #156
Or an extra long screwdriver.

BTW, I bought this exact item once to deal with a similar problem. . .$3 well spent:

http://tinyurl.com/maqor54

Posted by: looking closely at January 30, 2017 10:16 AM (0hzM1)

183 Even the shittiest drill will drill a hole. There is another issue, like the bit or where you are drilling.

Posted by: Lord Sir x at January 30, 2017 10:16 AM (nFwvY)

184 >>> I need to fix my new book case to the wall. It's actually 4 cube book cases, so I need to attach them to each other first. i'm thinking of doing something like that because it looks like I'm going to have less floor space than i thought.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:16 AM (8rNrN)

185 did you not read the post? The drill would not go more than 1/8 inch into the drywall. My pilot hole was limited to one eighth of an inch.

Not to be a dick but did you have the drill switched to reverse? My favorite is a Bosch with 2 lithium batteries that switch out and charge fast. Has a decent kick to it too.

Posted by: dartist at January 30, 2017 10:16 AM (n8oxI)

186 After carefully reviewing the opinions and scholarly articles written by the person President Trump nominates tomorrow, we find that the nominee is completely unqualified. His/her nomination should be rejected.

Posted by: American Bar Association at January 30, 2017 10:16 AM (77i7V)

187 In before someone asks "Ace, you're only 29??!!!??"

Posted by: L, Elle at January 30, 2017 10:17 AM (Rsi2C)

188 Shelvey is a ridiculous name!

Posted by: Arthur "Two Sheds" Jackson at January 30, 2017 10:17 AM (EnhfY)

189 @36 Politico reporting that Dems will definitely filibuster SCOTUS nominee. Hope turtle immediately pulls out the (used) nuclear option after the first cloture vote. --------------- Alternately, he could actually force them to perform a real filibuster and stop all Senate business instead of the fake thing they currently do where the threat of it is treated as the real thing.

Posted by: junior at January 30, 2017 10:17 AM (nsZ+m)

190 Posted by: JackStraw at January 30, 2017 03:15 PM (/tuJf)

Putting a screw through drywall = home remodel

Seems legit.

Posted by: yaedon at January 30, 2017 10:17 AM (qdhQS)

191 This whole post and comments has that distinct "Ace is a really a girl" feel about it.  Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Posted by: kathysayso at January 30, 2017 10:17 AM (43OZ6)

192 Just use a series of Hooks and Messenger Bags to store your stuff, Ace.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 10:17 AM (OhOyF)

193 >>>Even the shittiest drill will drill a hole. There is another issue, like the bit or where you are drilling. maybe the drill bit got blunted or something. Which is just another indicator that it sucks my wang.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:17 AM (8rNrN)

194 --
For screws only you can't beat a impact screwgun bit drilling but small holes is a problem.
A screwgun with a chuck will get you through most jobs. Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 03:12 PM
---------------

That's how I get along.  The impact driver (with chuck) actually does a good job drilling small holes in masonry. (say, 3/8 or smaller)  Acts somewhat like a hammer drill.

Posted by: irright at January 30, 2017 10:17 AM (pMGkg)

195 Alternately, he could actually force them to perform a real filibuster and stop all Senate business instead of the fake thing they currently do where the threat of it is treated as the real thing.

Posted by: junior at January 30, 2017 03:17 PM (nsZ+m)


This is also acceptable.

Posted by: yaedon at January 30, 2017 10:17 AM (qdhQS)

196 In Soviet Union, stud screws you.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 30, 2017 10:17 AM (0tfLf)

197 i'm interested -- I just don't understand how this would work.

Sheeesh, you clamp the shelf to your head first, and then you don't have to worry about it falling off.

Use a nice Jorgensen bar clamp, and you'll work them neck muscles like nobody's business!

Do I have to explain EVERYTHING to you people?

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 30, 2017 10:18 AM (nd1zx)

198 Was this a battery operated drill? I'm guessing bad battery. I had a cheapie 12v coleman I got at WallyWorld last for literally years of abuse. Among other things, I put up 100s of yards of privacy fence with it, driving sheetrock screws without pilot holes (course thread, 1.5 inch).

Posted by: Farmer Bob at January 30, 2017 10:18 AM (mN+tK)

199 130 how would a clamp hold a shelf to the wall? i'm interested -- I just don't understand how this would work. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:10 PM (8rNrN) With super glue. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 30, 2017 03:11 PM (zc3Db) Duct tape.

Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 10:18 AM (71OEY)

200 Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 03:14 PM (71OEY) I thought those were magnets holding the screw.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2017 10:18 AM (8cEQL)

201 Maybe it's time to double up on tricep and forearm exercises. Just thinking out loud here and denying the would salve.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 10:18 AM (llUHc)

202 Why are you beating your screwgun????

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 10:18 AM (p77iU)

203 187 In before someone asks "Ace, you're only 29??!!!??" Posted by: L, Elle at January 30, 2017 03:17 PM (Rsi2C) Born on a leap year, no doubt, right?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:18 AM (UBQ2A)

204 Just to make you feel better about yourself, Ace, yesterday, I replaced the toilet tank internals, while the kids were taking a bath, and while recovering from the flu/bronchitis.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 30, 2017 10:18 AM (GX63o)

205 You are a weird little "man" Shelvey

Posted by: alex at January 30, 2017 10:18 AM (r17bn)

206 The drill has a switch for clockwise and counterclockwise. Drill bits work best when rotating clockwise. What are the odds?
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at January 30, 2017 03:13 PM


Yet another example of the  imperialist white supremacist capitalist cisheteropatriarchy holding the left-hand thread community down.

Posted by: Trigglypuff[/i] at January 30, 2017 10:18 AM (DMUuz)

207 "Shelvey of Spades" ? Just doesn't sound right.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 30, 2017 10:19 AM (tu3iY)

208 I once won the Indy 500 in a Shelvey Mustang GT. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Brian Williams, The Most Interesting Reporter in the World at January 30, 2017 10:19 AM (Ndje9)

209 >>>Not to be a dick but did you have the drill switched to reverse? I don't think so. I could push it Up or Down. Seems to me Up is the natural position for "In." The other one used Up for screwing in and down for screwing out.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:19 AM (8rNrN)

210 We're going to be gutting and completely remodeling the large upstairs bedroom and bath.

Husband, who is NOT handy, is convinced he, one of his friends, and our son can demo the thing themselves.

DREAD. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 10:19 AM (PY9jH)

211 Even the shittiest drill will drill a hole. There is another issue, like the bit or where you are drilling. Posted by: Lord Sir ---- I dunno. I used to have a damned shitty drill. It was weak, and it's battery only lasted for about 3 minutes. Went out and spent some good money and got one with a power cord, damn it! I hate these stupid rechargeables! Gimme 1970s' tech any day!

Posted by: RKae at January 30, 2017 10:19 AM (EnhfY)

212 135 how would a clamp hold a shelf to the wall? i'm interested -- I just don't understand how this would work. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:10 PM (8rNrN) Guess I may have assumed facts not in evidence. What were you keeping in place with your head?

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at January 30, 2017 10:19 AM (EZWNE)

213 >>The drill has a switch for clockwise and counterclockwise. Drill bits work best when rotating clockwise. Except in Poland and Australia.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 10:19 AM (OhOyF)

214 >>>What I had was two pieces of shit which, combined together, made up a collection of shit that took up more space in my tool drawer than a single piece of shit would.<<<

These are what I call "loaners."  Always have the right tool for the job, and never let someone borrow your good shit.  If you did this type of work more frequently you'd have about 4 different sizes of cordless tools in a couple of different voltages and then an AC corded set for when you're not fucking around.

Posted by: Fritz at January 30, 2017 10:19 AM (2Mnv1)

215 You have to let AtC win once in a while, or she gets cranky. Hey, My monies on Her.... Posted by: deplorable donna at January 30, 2017 03:14 PM (O2RFr) I would totally play fair.

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 30, 2017 10:19 AM (mf5HN)

216 #168  Ya killin' me, Ace:

For weird angles:
http://tinyurl.com/hdzsccj

For one handed screwjobs (no, its not cheating if you use your left hand):
http://tinyurl.com/jjm6rm4

Posted by: looking closely at January 30, 2017 10:19 AM (0hzM1)

217 Sounds like a weekend Shelvy/Home Improvement post would be of interest to teh Horde.

Posted by: Boots at January 30, 2017 10:19 AM (EBwPV)

218 I think we've had the good tools/bad tools debate before- when I was younger, it wasn't really a choice, but I seem to remember someone framing it basically as pay twice as much for a Dewalt that lasts twice as long, or half as much for a Ryobi that lasts half as long. Six of one, half dozen of the other. I like the newish Hitachi line at Lowe's, good quality, reasonable price.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at January 30, 2017 10:20 AM (mN+tK)

219 "Will you please go down to the basement and make sure your father doesn't blow up the house?!"

Way back when Dad bought a radial arm saw, big box, table, the whole deal.

So me + brothers are watching him put it up in the basement, dwindles down to just me as they head off to bed.  Gets it all ready, sets up a shallow rip cut, fires it up, starts board in, ZING, saw grabs wrong way board shoots it across the basement.  "Mom, Dad just shot the washing machine".

He built desks for all of us over the next few years.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 30, 2017 10:20 AM (8J/Te)

220 175 Please stop telling Ace about hammer drills. If he uses that on Sheetrock and studs he'll be drilling into his neighbors living room.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 03:15 PM (llUHc)


Maybe Ace WANTS to drill into his neighbor's living room.  Didja think of that?

Posted by: yaedon at January 30, 2017 10:20 AM (qdhQS)

221 Here's some good news...probably already reported here. Ahmed "Clock Boy" Mohamed and father, Mohamed Mohamed, will be forced to pay between $280,000 and $380,000 for filing frivolous SLAPP lawsuits against critics.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 30, 2017 10:20 AM (2x9LM)

222 161 Shooter update: http://tinyurl.com/z89p45z (From Gates of Vienna) Posted by: RKae at January 30, 2017 03:14 PM (EnhfY) They've got it backward. Gates of Vienna is good for a lot of things but I think they're seeing what they want to see here.

Posted by: joncelli, Deplorable MMA Afficianado at January 30, 2017 10:20 AM (RD7QR)

223 >>>I honestly don't know how you people who work manual labor jobs do it.

First, we buy the right tools, like a forklift.

And a drill.

Seriuosly, drop the money on a Bosch or DeWalt or Makita.  Well worth it.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 30, 2017 10:20 AM (sF/De)

224 I don't think so. I could push it Up or Down. Seems to me Up is the natural position for "In." The other one used Up for screwing in and down for screwing out. Or you could look at it as it turns. Righty tighty lefty loosy.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 10:20 AM (QQ+il)

225 i actually wanted to do it. I feel like a pussy every time I call someone to do something that I should be able to do myself.


I understand that feeling.  My brakes needed changing and I figured now's a good time to do them myself, since I had a full day of nothing until class that evening.  I had the tire off and discovered that one of the bolts was held in by a cotter pin that the idiot had put in backwards, and then bent to secure it.  When I tried to remove it the pin broke.  On a side note, it's two miles from my house to the nearest auto parts store...

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at January 30, 2017 10:21 AM (heTCV)

226 The other one used Up for screwing in and down for screwing out. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:19 PM (8rNrN) We prefer to say "unscrewing out" and "unscrewing in".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 30, 2017 10:21 AM (zc3Db)

227 Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 03:16 PM (xeeHA) Sounds like my house.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2017 10:21 AM (8cEQL)

228 "Every normal man must be tempted at times to piss upon his drill, hoist the white flag and begin slitting drywall".

Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 10:21 AM (llUHc)

229 Please post pictures of the shelving? I've been planning to do a row of shelves around the ceiling of my room, so I can get my collections out of storage and enjoy them. But I could use inspiration- show me how yours turned out?

Posted by: Nmissi at January 30, 2017 10:21 AM (Cq3cj)

230 We're going to be gutting and completely remodeling the large upstairs bedroom and bath. Husband, who is NOT handy, is convinced he, one of his friends, and our son can demo the thing themselves. DREAD. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 03:19 PM (PY9jH) Jane, to be fair, I'm sure that they can demo it no problem. It's the putting back together that's an issue.

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 30, 2017 10:21 AM (mf5HN)

231 We should get Ace a Hilti Gun.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 10:21 AM (OhOyF)

232 This post will give me nightmares.

Posted by: Bob Villa at January 30, 2017 10:21 AM (DrC22)

233 Only ace can write up a little article about installing shelves and some how make it interesting/amusing.

Posted by: Max Power at January 30, 2017 10:21 AM (QCc6B)

234 Meanwhile, some asshole at Ikea sits back and laughs his ass off.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 30, 2017 10:21 AM (oVJmc)

235 Looks like Prime Minister Zoolander has the casus belli to go after thoughtcriminals throughout Canada. Now is not a good time to be a non-Leftist in Canada right now.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 30, 2017 10:21 AM (OzJeO)

236 So back in 2015 Chuck Schumer tweets that we need to halt Syrian refugees until they can be properly vetted.

Posted by: josephistan at January 30, 2017 10:21 AM (7HtZB)

237 >>The drill has a switch for clockwise and counterclockwise. Drill bits work best when rotating clockwise.


Except in Poland and Australia. Posted by: garrett
-----
Can you read Austrian?

Posted by: Dang at January 30, 2017 10:21 AM (8b+oT)

238
I would totally play fair.

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 30, 2017 03:19 PM (mf5HN)


Define "fair".

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at January 30, 2017 10:22 AM (heTCV)

239 Seriuosly, drop the money on a Bosch or DeWalt or Makita. Well worth it. Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 30, 2017 03:20 PM (sF/De) --- Prefer DeWalt myself.

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 10:22 AM (CRotO)

240 I remember when we used to sharpen our drill bits rather than just buying another piece of Chinacrap. Actually, I still do sharpen my wood bits.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 10:22 AM (QQ+il)

241 if your dumb drills can't drill good, you should check to make sure the clutch isn't set to "pussy" some drills have clutches that limits torque so you don't break stuff

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at January 30, 2017 10:22 AM (QkS7+)

242 Ace, don't you have any Enlisted to help...oh yeah not in the Military. never mind

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2017 10:22 AM (sRFAL)

243 Ahmed "Clock Boy" Mohamed and father, Mohamed Mohamed, will be forced to pay between $280,000 and $380,000 for filing frivolous SLAPP lawsuits against critics. Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 30, 2017 03:20 PM (2x9LM) Barry: Hey Ahmed, nice lawsuit...errr...never mind..

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 30, 2017 10:22 AM (493sH)

244 Define "fair". Shrieking and crawling around your head like a spider monkey.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 10:22 AM (QQ+il)

245 I bet Shep had an affair with fredo

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2017 10:22 AM (sRFAL)

246 The other one used Up for screwing in and down for screwing out. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:19 PM (8rNrN) Yep. That was the script for my last dozen movies.

Posted by: Peter North at January 30, 2017 10:23 AM (7HtZB)

247 I did a disaster relief trip in Baton Rouge this past summer. One homeowner needed a special project done that required driving some screws. She had a Harbor Freight Chinese special, I think it had a 4 amp motor. The reverse switch broke the first time I used it and I think I could have turned screws in faster with a phillip's head.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at January 30, 2017 10:23 AM (mN+tK)

248 242 Ace, don't you have any Enlisted to help...oh yeah not in the Military. never mind Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2017 03:22 PM (sRFAL) --- Yeah. And don't get no officer to do it. Will fuck shit all up.

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 10:23 AM (CRotO)

249 um okay maybe I did have the drill set in the wrong position well... um. okay.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:23 AM (8rNrN)

250 Jane, to be fair, I'm sure that they can demo it no problem.

It's the putting back together that's an issue.

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 30, 2017 03:21 PM (mf5HN)



We're hiring a pro to do the remodel.  It's the OMG getting the old bathtub down the stairs without destroying the stairway. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 10:23 AM (PY9jH)

251 Husband, who is NOT handy, is convinced he, one of his friends, and our son can demo the thing themselves. DREAD. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 03:19 PM (PY9jH) ----------- Demo they can probably do. It's when they get jaunty and start making noise about "hey, this stuff is easy, we can just put in all the new stuff ourself via Youtube and duct tape" that you have to take a firm stand.

Posted by: bluebell at January 30, 2017 10:23 AM (sBOL1)

252 My favorite is the corded electric sawzall with the 12" Womanizer attachment.

Posted by: hILLRY o O at January 30, 2017 10:23 AM (HgMAr)

253 The drill has a switch for clockwise and counterclockwise. Drill bits work best when rotating clockwise. Righty Tighty Lefty Loosey

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2017 10:23 AM (Z4z/q)

254 Didn't the other PM Trudeau invoke martial law in the '70s to go after terrorists?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 10:23 AM (p77iU)

255 I'm putting together a (very small) home gym and I had to get rid of bookcases to fit it all in my very small apartment. And then, to store those books, I had to put in a bunch of (high) wall shelves. --------- So, a library with a ladder. Well, aren't we hoity-toity. Actually, that is one of the ambitions of every avid reader, a library that requires a ladder.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 10:23 AM (NBHj5)

256 >>So back in 2015 Chuck Schumer tweets that we need to halt Syrian refugees until they can be properly vetted.




That's gonna leave a mark!

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 30, 2017 10:23 AM (NOIQH)

257 No job is complete with just one (1) trip to the Home Depot. Posted by: DaveA at January 30, 2017 03:07 PM (8J/Te) 1 trip to Home Depot is called a "Scouting Mission".

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at January 30, 2017 10:24 AM (1JnAL)

258 We should get Ace a Hilti Gun.

Oh, gawd; BANG! (zing!) /screaming from next door

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 30, 2017 10:24 AM (nd1zx)

259 209 >>>Not to be a dick but did you have the drill switched to reverse? I don't think so. I could push it Up or Down. Seems to me Up is the natural position for "In." The other one used Up for screwing in and down for screwing out. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:19 PM (8rNrN) Place your hand or fingers around the chuck (important note, chuck, not the drill bit). Lightly press trigger. If rotation is clockwise, you're going in. If not, flip the switch. Logic is rarely consistent on drill switches... and often socket wrenches. What you described really does sound like an indicatior of drilling the wrong direction. Probably a shitty tool also, but you can push screws into drywall with your fingers. (Or your head, if not being used for shelf holding).

Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 10:24 AM (71OEY)

260 um okay maybe I did have the drill set in the wrong position well... um. okay. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:23 PM (8rNrN) ... well, that's better than having forgotten to plug it in ... for what it's worth

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 30, 2017 10:24 AM (zc3Db)

261 um okay maybe I did have the drill set in the wrong position well... um. okay. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:23 PM (8rNrN) ---------- It's okay, ace. My husband was an English major too.

Posted by: bluebell at January 30, 2017 10:24 AM (sBOL1)

262 um okay maybe I did have the drill set in the wrong position

well... um.

okay.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:23 PM (8rNrN)




heh.  heheheheheheheh.  BWAHAHAHAHAHA!  Sorry.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 10:24 AM (PY9jH)

263 Please stop telling Ace about hammer drills. If he uses that on Sheetrock and studs he'll be drilling into his neighbors living room.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 03:15 PM


Most cordless hammer drills can be set to perform as a regular drill. The 'hammer' is just additional capability, available when needed and deserved.

Did you consider that his neighbor may be fellow 29 year old, single, and impressed with a man that knows his way around drills?

Posted by: Duncanthrax[/i] at January 30, 2017 10:24 AM (DMUuz)

264 Is it a modern standard sized bathtub?

Surfing the stairs just took on a whole new meaning.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 10:24 AM (p77iU)

265 >>Jane, to be fair, I'm sure that they can demo it no problem. Yea, what could possibly go wrong when demoing a room for remodeling. These famous words have uttered just before some of the most tragic and creative oopsies known to man. They are often accompanied by the words "Hold my beer".

Posted by: JackStraw at January 30, 2017 10:25 AM (/tuJf)

266 I feel very, very stupid. But you guys were right-- the drill actually had a different mechanism for toggling in/out.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:25 AM (8rNrN)

267 Obviously, Ace really needs an assault drill to successfully navigate the sheetrock.

Posted by: yaedon at January 30, 2017 10:25 AM (qdhQS)

268 The drill has a switch for clockwise and counterclockwise. Drill bits work best when rotating clockwise. Righty Tighty Lefty Loosey Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth ----------- In Russia, all bits turn to the left.

Posted by: Vlad at January 30, 2017 10:25 AM (NBHj5)

269 I'm choking to death here.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 10:25 AM (QQ+il)

270 Impact wrench, ftw.

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 10:25 AM (CRotO)

271 >> um okay maybe I did have the drill set in the wrong position >well... um. >okay. Hahahaha. Don't wear your Crocs when working on a ladder, either Boss Shelves.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 10:25 AM (OhOyF)

272 Looking forward to a pic of Ace's shelves in a future Sunday Morning Book Thread.

Posted by: phxjay at January 30, 2017 10:25 AM (r/M0K)

273 I'm pretty sure I could use an ice pick and get through dry wall. Burn your drill and your drill bits. Posted by: yaedon at January 30, 2017 03:07 PM (qdhQS) You can use a nail to make a pilot hole for the screw. A drill is easier, but a nail will work in a pinch.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Bans, Slams, and Frenzies! Midwinter Sale at the Outrage Outlet! at January 30, 2017 10:25 AM (hLRSq)

274 >>>>And the drill bit thing is magnetized or something.

what an innovation that my stupid Retard Drill did not have.

And let me tell you, it's so much fun trying to just balance a one and a half inch screw at the end of an unmagnetized bit.
.
.
.Painters tape to hold the screw in the bit, works for me.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 30, 2017 10:25 AM (le7jz)

275 Rkae, hoo ah.

I went to all the trouble to actually embed heavy duty electrical cables in the walls and ceilings, all over my house. I didn't put those in to power battery chargers. 18V vs 24V? I laugh at your disputations. Now, 110 vs 220...

Posted by: Stringer Davis[/i][/b] at January 30, 2017 10:25 AM (H5rtT)

276 You too, Grump? lol

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 10:25 AM (CRotO)

277 #161 (From Gates of Vienna) Posted by: RKae
Out of date but alot stinks.

Witnesses said two gunmen wearing ski masks; Laval student shooter happens to go there on a nonstandard night when Laval student Moslem just happens to be there; cops pick up Laval Moslem nearby as suspect too; Moslem now a "witness".

We're going to have to wait longer to get all the information about this one.

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at January 30, 2017 10:26 AM (nlbfN)

278 250 posts in and no one has yet recommended the use of square drive (Robertson) screws? It's like I don't even know you people any more.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 30, 2017 10:26 AM (noWW6)

279 Went out and spent some good money and got one with a power cord, damn it! I hate these stupid rechargeables! Gimme 1970s' tech any day! Posted by: RKae at January 30, 2017 03:19 PM (EnhfY) ------ I inherited a plugin Milwaukee Tools drill. Thing shoots sparks like a GnR show but holy shit will it put a bit through anything. That's pretty much for when I'm dealing with concrete.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 10:26 AM (xeeHA)

280 My wife actually bought a DeWalt and calls it the "power screwer".   Juvenile jokes aside, its a great piece of kit, and I strongly recommend it.  Its not as good as a impact driver for the really tough stuff, but I had no problem putting 30 3" screws into studs in one shot with it.

Posted by: looking closely at January 30, 2017 10:26 AM (0hzM1)

281 well you live you learn. great forearm workout tho

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:26 AM (8rNrN)

282 I get so lost in projects sometimes I forget the tools I had. I put a little lift on my Nissan Frontier a couple weeks ago. Couldn't get the lower strut bolt off on the drivers side for anything, not even after heating it with the torch. I ended up cutting it off with a hacksaw, which I had to use left-handed- took my hours. I didn't even think about my Sawzall with hack blade until I was putting my tools up that evening.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at January 30, 2017 10:26 AM (mN+tK)

283 I had the tire off and discovered that one of the bolts was held in by a cotter pin that the idiot had put in backwards, and then bent to secure it. When I tried to remove it the pin broke.

You never reuse cotter pins; they are strictly one-time-only.

You're not going to be driving around the Chicago metro area, are you?/whew!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 30, 2017 10:26 AM (nd1zx)

284 It's ok, we wil still call you Shelvey.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 30, 2017 10:26 AM (Om16U)

285 217 Sounds like a weekend Shelvy/Home Improvement post would be of interest to teh Horde. Posted by: Boots at January 30, 2017 03:19 PM (EBwPV) It would be interesting. A tech post would be good too. Especially if it focused on things that work well and make you glad you spent the money.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at January 30, 2017 10:26 AM (EZWNE)

286 BACON!!!

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5303066054001/?#sp=show-clips


Posted by: Dang at January 30, 2017 10:26 AM (8b+oT)

287 The things could not even push past the first eighth inch of drywall. The easiest part. --------- Does it say "My First Drill", and "Fisher-Price" on the tool?

Posted by: Vlad at January 30, 2017 10:26 AM (NBHj5)

288 gonna be a while before i live this one down

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:26 AM (8rNrN)

289 um okay maybe I did have the drill set in the wrong position well... um. okay. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:23 PM (8rNrN) O_o

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Bans, Slams, and Frenzies! Midwinter Sale at the Outrage Outlet! at January 30, 2017 10:26 AM (hLRSq)

290 >>> 250 Jane, to be fair, I'm sure that they can demo it no problem. .... Sure. Pro tip: if you remove something and the ceiling/ roof/ house collapses, it was a load bearing something. Don't remove that next time.

Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 10:26 AM (71OEY)

291 I feel very, very stupid.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:25 PM (8rNrN)



We've all done that once or twice with various projects. 

"Oh, it's set to turn the wrong way."
"Oh, it's not plugged it."
"Oh look, that's what this screw was for."

It's part of the joy of not paying someone else to do it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at January 30, 2017 10:26 AM (heTCV)

292 No job is complete with just one (1) trip to the Home Depot. Posted by: DaveA I honestly did. Installed a dishwasher last Thursday. Did it in one trip. Who knew in the last 25 years they changed the water inlet fixture? F'n pricks.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at January 30, 2017 10:26 AM (MZVOx)

293 Are you using a left handed drill or right handed?

Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 10:26 AM (llUHc)

294 Still, you will like the new drill. You can use it to hammer in nails for you next project.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 10:27 AM (QQ+il)

295 >>I feel very, very stupid. How did you Ewoks ever get up in those Trees!?

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 10:27 AM (OhOyF)

296 I understand the urge to change and redo, and I'm not the least bit handy myself. Our basement is unfinished and is right now collecting the stuff that can't be organized into the rest of the house. We don't have the money to finish it off but I've taken to wondering if scouring the local goodwills for furniture and floor coverings could make it slightly more appealing as a place to spend some time.

Posted by: El Skippito Friskito at January 30, 2017 10:27 AM (q/kmn)

297 So now we get an interior decorating/GAINZZZZ combined thread?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at January 30, 2017 10:27 AM (9krrF)

298 >>245 I bet Shep had an affair with fredo I bet Shep and Fredo had an affair with Dewalt.

Posted by: Arnold Schwarzenegger at January 30, 2017 10:27 AM (DrC22)

299 You know who puts up shelves for moslems? Nobody! You don't need shelves for one (1) book.

Posted by: Eromero at January 30, 2017 10:27 AM (zLDYs)

300 um okay maybe I did have the drill set in the wrong position

Anyone in here who claims that has never happened to them is either not being honest or has never used a reversible drill. Rock on ace.

Posted by: dartist at January 30, 2017 10:27 AM (n8oxI)

301 88 54 One word, Ace: Pilot Hole. Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 03:03 PM (QQ+il) That's two words. And 3 letters!

Posted by: uncle Joe at January 30, 2017 10:27 AM (TWinl)

302 Don't wear your Crocs when working on a ladder, either Boss Shelves. Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 03:25 PM (OhOyF) ---------- Or the messenger bag. It will throw him off balance.

Posted by: bluebell at January 30, 2017 10:27 AM (sBOL1)

303 I feel very, very stupid. But you guys were right-- the drill actually had a different mechanism for toggling in/out. Posted by: ace ********** womp wah

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at January 30, 2017 10:27 AM (QkS7+)

304 I will now have to invent many more things in order to pay this judgment. I will make an invention that toasts bread. And then I will make an invention that will remove a bottle cap from a bottle.

Posted by: Clock Boy at January 30, 2017 10:27 AM (77i7V)

305 254 Didn't the other PM Trudeau invoke martial law in the '70s to go after terrorists? Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 03:23 PM (p77iU) Yep, that was the last time things went froggy in Quebec. (And when I was in Montreal circa 2000 they were still bitter about it.)

Posted by: joncelli, Deplorable MMA Afficianado at January 30, 2017 10:27 AM (RD7QR)

306 "Yea, what could possibly go wrong when demoing a room for remodeling." The phrase 'load bearing wall' is very important to understand.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Bans, Slams, and Frenzies! Midwinter Sale at the Outrage Outlet! at January 30, 2017 10:27 AM (hLRSq)

307 I feel very, very stupid. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:25 PM (8rNrN) We've all done that once or twice with various projects. "Oh, it's set to turn the wrong way." "Oh, it's not plugged it." "Oh look, that's what this screw was for." It's part of the joy of not paying someone else to do it. Posted by: Colorado Alex Don't feel stoopid. That's called learning.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at January 30, 2017 10:27 AM (MZVOx)

308 So, a library with a ladder. Well, aren't we hoity-toity. Actually, that is one of the ambitions of every avid reader, a library that requires a ladder. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 03:23 PM (NBHj5) The fireplace, Executive chair, pipe and smoking jacket are also must haves.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2017 10:28 AM (92kX2)

309 Sounds like a dull bit. The drill problem, not the column.

Posted by: Mazzman at January 30, 2017 10:28 AM (u/HxG)

310 Next Moron Meetup that Ace attends, we need to buy a few beers to help Ace erase these memories least they become seared....

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 10:28 AM (p77iU)

311 #278
I like the hex ones. Didn't want to confuse Ace here.

If you're just putting a few screws into ordinary wall studs, and especially if you're pre-drilling pilot holes, normal Philips head screws are fine

Posted by: looking closely at January 30, 2017 10:28 AM (0hzM1)

312 >>>Does it say "My First Drill", and "Fisher-Price" on the tool? it was an ikea one it had these two tabs on either side and when you pushed one tab in, it went in, and when you pushed the other one out, it went out. I had it in a sort of intermediate position which was... actually in the out position.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:28 AM (8rNrN)

313 Are you using a left handed drill or right handed? Posted by: Marcus T
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Easily fixed by standing on the opposite side of the wall.

Posted by: Dang at January 30, 2017 10:28 AM (8b+oT)

314 I once drilled in reverse into a piece of wood and I only noticed because the friction was burning the hole and I smelled it.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 10:28 AM (QQ+il)

315 >> well you live you learn. Some slower than others. But, yes.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 10:28 AM (OhOyF)

316 But you guys were right-- the drill actually had a different mechanism for toggling in/out. Posted by: ace You put the screw on the drill and hold it against the spot you want it in, then beat on the back of the drill with a hammer.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 30, 2017 10:28 AM (oVJmc)

317 Righty Tighty Lefty Loosey>>>

Are you making fun of us.

Posted by: Vagina Protesters at January 30, 2017 10:28 AM (aVYsC)

318 Just lean forward it'll be okay.

Posted by: Rachelthemadcow at January 30, 2017 10:28 AM (nQHw/)

319 >>278 250 posts in and no one has yet recommended the use of square drive (Robertson) screws? Square screws make me nervous.

Posted by: Shep Smith at January 30, 2017 10:28 AM (DrC22)

320 I didn't even think about my Sawzall with hack blade until I was putting my tools up that evening. Posted by: Farmer Bob ----------- I've used a Dremel tool with a cut-off wheel to that. Piece of cake. Of course, that assumes that you can get at it with the tool.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 10:28 AM (NBHj5)

321 It's the putting back together that's an issue. Back in the olden times when installing a 'cell 'phone required dismantling the vehicle interior to run cables, I had a brand new Lincoln Town Car dismantled, with parts lying all over the garage; right in front of the owner and his wife. They had just brought the car over from the dealer's lot. It was 'pre-wired' for a cell phone, they said. What that means is there is an empty tap in the fuse block to power the phone. Wife asks, "You can put it all back together again?" Sounding worried. "Yes," I say. "You won't even know it has been taken apart."

Posted by: Naughtchoes at January 30, 2017 10:29 AM (/5NOC)

322 >>Does it say "My First Drill"
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Not funny.

Posted by: Lena Dunham's little sister at January 30, 2017 10:29 AM (8b+oT)

323 Ace, that's not a how-to show, it's the Three Stooges.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 30, 2017 10:29 AM (oVJmc)

324 Posted by: El Skippito Friskito at January 30, 2017 03:27 PM (q/kmn) ===== *This-is-children's-library fistbump*

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at January 30, 2017 10:29 AM (4bKiB)

325 Adam Corolla has a show coming up on Spike (I think) where he has friends come on the show and build stuff live.

For some reason he decided to name it Adam Corolla and Friends Build Stuff Live. Wonder if Ace would be up for making an appearance?

Or maybe we could start a show like Worst Cooks in America for people who are constructionally challenged?

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at January 30, 2017 10:29 AM (eVNrz)

326 So- just another well read, exquisite writer who refuses to read the instruction manual? Welcome to your initiation into the guys club. Next, you have to get lost and claim you know precisely where you are going.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 10:29 AM (llUHc)

327 um okay maybe I did have the drill set in the wrong position Anyone in here who claims that has never happened to them is either not being honest or has never used a reversible drill. Rock on ace. Posted by: dartist What really sucks is when your thumb barely bumps it to the middle position. Aka, OFF.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at January 30, 2017 10:29 AM (MZVOx)

328 I'm married to a guy that does plumbing, electrical, woodworking (his favorite), painting, you name it.  We have every friggin' tool, saw, drill, etc. that they make. 


Oh and all our legal work. 

Posted by: Tami[/i][/b][/s][/u] at January 30, 2017 10:29 AM (Enq6K)

329 Ikea makes drills?

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 10:29 AM (CRotO)

330 But is Miss Scarlett in the library?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 10:30 AM (p77iU)

331 not obvious stuff; wobbly step ladders will wear you down; plastic mollys are generally only okay for lightweight stuff; cheap screws and driver heads -screwheads and driver heads strip long before the screw is tight- buy a drill bit the size of the screwshaft sans thread profile and pre-bore screw holes. Put yellow glue on screw if bore hole seem large. Never plan to get a job done in a day - allow for 2 weekends. Profit $$$$$&!

Posted by: 13times at January 30, 2017 10:30 AM (WHVu+)

332 I now have a feeling, don't quote me on this, that this post will live on FOREVER! "Remember the Shelvey thread?"

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 10:30 AM (xeeHA)

333 But being on step-ladders all day and hand-screwing into studs is tough for someone who, as you know, is rapidly approaching 29 years old.

You should try it at my age.

But you know what they say. "No pain, no cock."


Posted by: B. Frank at January 30, 2017 10:30 AM (t22hw)

334 290 >>> 250 Jane, to be fair, I'm sure that they can demo it no problem. .... Pro tip: if you remove something and the ceiling/ roof/ house collapses, it was a load bearing something. Don't remove that next time. Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 03:26 PM (71OEY) ----------------------------- I live in an old part of town and homes here can date back to the late 19th century. Sometimes people get in over their heads on "remodels". Two different times in the last 10 years, homeowners doing remodeling removed enough of the load bearing walls that their homes fell down. One of those fell on the next door neighbor's house, making part of that house fall down too.

Posted by: Boots at January 30, 2017 10:30 AM (EBwPV)

335 When will Ace learn to come to Us first? We know Everything. Just ask us.

Posted by: Soothsayer GT with Electronic Fuel Injection at January 30, 2017 10:30 AM (/ZnTF)

336 Don't feel bad. Years ago I had a big guy (with common sense inversely proportional to body mass) on one of my projects drilling holes for 1" diameter bolts through Douglas Fir timbers 8" thick. The whole time he had the drill in reverse and was wondering why smoke was coming out of the hole. Finally the job super comes out with "what the F--- are you doing!!!" It was not a question.

Posted by: moon over vermont at January 30, 2017 10:30 AM (kUmUV)

337 Impact drivers are heaven-sent. If you had had one, you would have been done in 20 minutes. Posted by: irright That is one of those tools that I would have loved 20 years ago. Such a game changer.

Posted by: Maritime at January 30, 2017 10:30 AM (lzxL6)

338 Tool Tip: If you have a powerful drill/driver, SPAX brand screws are super good - no pre-drilling required in wood. Home Depot and Amazon have them. You can choose Torx or Phlllips/square drive heads. I liked the Phillips/square drive type until I bought a box of Torx drive by mistake. Good stuff, and the large boxes have a drive bit inside.

Posted by: Gref at January 30, 2017 10:30 AM (AMIL/)

339 A Tool that isn't used gets rusty. A Tool that isn't used properly gets pissed on.

Posted by: Ewok Proverbs at January 30, 2017 10:30 AM (OhOyF)

340 It's not just that I feel stupid, which I do. It's also that what I thought would take a couple of hours wound up taking from six to 12:30 at night, with much, much, MUCH more straining than I imagined (or that was actually needed). With actual pilot holes I could have been in and done with those stud screws like ten minutes each.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:30 AM (8rNrN)

341 The only time you should have the drill set on reverse is when you want to fill in a hole.  Works like a charm.


Posted by: Dang at January 30, 2017 10:30 AM (8b+oT)

342 Senators taking action to repeal Trump's temporary immigration/refugee ban.

Trump's just making all of the sh#tweasels self-identify, isn't he?

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 30, 2017 10:30 AM (NOIQH)

343 I feel very, very stupid. But you guys were right-- the drill actually had a different mechanism for toggling in/out. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:25 PM (8rNrN) Ahh don't worry about it. No one is going to remember this after a day decade or two

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 30, 2017 10:31 AM (493sH)

344 You didn't piss in the drill and bag it yet did you? You know, since it was in reverse.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 10:31 AM (llUHc)

345 I thought Ace lived in a chateau somewhere in France. With butlers who put up shelves. and maids who... well, you know. Posted by: wth at January 30, 2017 03:11 PM (HgMAr) Wash his beat socks?

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at January 30, 2017 10:31 AM (1JnAL)

346 I'm a fan of a show on the Do It Yourself network called "First Time Flippers." A lot of fun and a lot of laughs.

It's a fun show because NOTHING ever goes well when novices attempt to demo and fix-up a house.

One show - a husband and wife doing the flip - and the husband is arguing he wants to take down this wall.

Wife: "Well, is it a load bearing wall?"
Husband: "I don't think so. I haven't checked."

Posted by: Biergood at January 30, 2017 10:31 AM (v8Lx/)

347 288 gonna be a while before i live this one down Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:26 PM (8rNrN) Around here? NO! We are the very souls of discretion and moderation. *in before the "I tried to start the car, but I turned the key the wrong way" conga line*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2017 10:31 AM (92kX2)

348 313 Are you using a left handed drill or right handed? Posted by: Marcus T ----- Easily fixed by standing on the opposite side of the wall. Posted by: Dang at January 30, 2017 03:28 PM (8b+oT) I remedy the problem by standing on my head or turning the drill upside down. Or moving to Australia.

Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 10:31 AM (71OEY)

349 Don't worry about the screws with the heads on the wrong end; those are for the other side of the wall!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 30, 2017 10:31 AM (nd1zx)

350 I feel very, very stupid.




Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:25 PM (8rNrN)

Gainzzzzz!!!

Posted by: yaedon at January 30, 2017 10:31 AM (qdhQS)

351 when hubby would have one screw left over after an appliance repair he'd shrug and say "I guess it didn't really need that one"

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 30, 2017 10:31 AM (Om16U)

352 I've done it before when I was alternating screwing and unscrewing on a project and lost track. Subconsciously thought I had hit concrete for a second and pushed harder before I realized I hadn't switched back.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2017 10:31 AM (Z4z/q)

353 like it was a poorly-balanced nail with a pistol grip. Really funny!

Posted by: TedCruzLegThrill at January 30, 2017 10:31 AM (bqi4u)

354 Get a Bosch 12 V cordless pocket driver. I've had a lot of different tools for dumb stuff like shelves, but this is by far the best. Light, cheap, powerful. Also predrill the damn holes. Dumbasss.

Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at January 30, 2017 10:31 AM (UgF8H)

355 342 Senators taking action to repeal Trump's temporary immigration/refugee ban. Trump's just making all of the sh#tweasels self-identify, isn't he? Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2017 03:30 PM (NOIQH) Will Corker, McStains and the Hermaphrodite flip??

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:31 AM (UBQ2A)

356 And don't get no officer to do it. Will fuck shit all up. Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 03:23 PM (CRotO) We're good at Drinking Coffee and giving Directions.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2017 10:31 AM (sRFAL)

357 I have a drill bit from my grandfather that cuts in reverse, can't figure what its was for. Bought a Drill Doctor from a co-worker for dirt cheep, great tool.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 10:31 AM (0AwCy)

358 That said, the small Black and Decker I was using as a driver still could not push screws even halfway into the drywall. maybe with a proper pilot hole they could have, But defintely not into the stud, pilot hole or not.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:32 AM (8rNrN)

359 I once drilled in reverse into a piece of wood and I only noticed because the friction was burning the hole and I smelled it. ------------------------------------------------ When one uses a chain saw for an extended period of time, one has to turn over the bar, to equalize wear on both sides. So I did that. Not thinking about what direction the chain would be running. Yep, chain running backwards doesn't cut wood.

Posted by: Naughtchoes at January 30, 2017 10:32 AM (/5NOC)

360 An Ikea drill?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 10:32 AM (p77iU)

361 "I feel stupid"
===
That would be called "how we learn".  Otherwise known as "a mistake every single person makes ONCE".

You'll, of course, make the same mistake again (and again. . .and again. . and again. . .as I do, and probably every other person who uses these tools), but next time, you'll realize it within a few seconds, fix it without missing a beat, and move on.


Posted by: looking closely at January 30, 2017 10:32 AM (0hzM1)

362 288 gonna be a while before i live this one down

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:26 PM (8rNrN)



I'm impressed with the integrity kick... you didn't have to tell us!


Good man.

Posted by: Dirty Randy at January 30, 2017 10:32 AM (jjaLl)

363 Didn't the other PM Trudeau invoke martial law in the '70s to go after terrorists?
Yes, against French-Canadian terrorists who had been bombing shit throughout the late '60s; then they kidnapped a British diplomat and a Canadian cabinet minister who was eventually killed by the kidnappers. If you're interested Bing "trudeau war measures act" for the details.

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at January 30, 2017 10:32 AM (nlbfN)

364 Ace, that's not a how-to show, it's the Three Stooges. Posted by: Mr. Peebles
-----
"This house has sure gone crazy!"

Posted by: Dang at January 30, 2017 10:32 AM (8b+oT)

365 217 Sounds like a weekend Shelvy/Home Improvement post would be of interest to teh Horde. Posted by: Boots at January 30, 2017 03:19 PM (EBwPV) Heh. It's ALWAYS something like that. That's why guys don't like to ask for help. It's an open invitation to ridicule.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at January 30, 2017 10:32 AM (EZWNE)

366 The fireplace, Executive chair, pipe and smoking jacket are also must haves. Posted by: Aetius451AD ----------------- May I bring you a drink, M'lord?

Posted by: Carson at January 30, 2017 10:32 AM (NBHj5)

367 Our remodel does NOT involve walls.  Ripping out the existing bathroom, and replacing the carpet (or we may do hardwood flooring) in the bedroom. 

Husband's friend is currently doing a complete remodel of his and wife's kitchen.  He's handy, and so is she.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 10:32 AM (PY9jH)

368 How long has Portman been a Democrat?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2017 10:33 AM (sRFAL)

369 Smart Construction Blog

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 30, 2017 10:33 AM (2x9LM)

370 I have a drill bit from my grandfather that cuts in reverse, can't figure what its was for. -- Google 'easy out'

Posted by: Naughtchoes at January 30, 2017 10:33 AM (/5NOC)

371 We're good at Drinking Coffee and giving Directions. Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2017 03:31 PM (sRFAL) --- Drinking coffee, yes. Giving directions, not so much.

Posted by: NCOs everywhere at January 30, 2017 10:33 AM (CRotO)

372 Recently spent bout 1k on shelves and openfaced bins. I now know what n organization erection is! Worth every penny

Posted by: Shiggz at January 30, 2017 10:33 AM (X8Fea)

373 The Drill Doctor is in. Ready to answer all your home improvement questions.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 10:33 AM (llUHc)

374 360 An Ikea drill? Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 03:32 PM (p77iU) Three speeds; forward, reverse and lingonberry.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:33 AM (UBQ2A)

375 But is Miss Scarlett in the library?
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 03:30 PM


With the Fabio-lookalike Col. Mustard, 'behind the stacks', no doubt.

Posted by: Duncanthrax[/i] at January 30, 2017 10:33 AM (DMUuz)

376 >>> Ahh don't worry about it. No one is going to remember this after a day decade or two ..... ace locked himself out of his own blog. Attempted to use a drill to get back in but it was going the wrong direction. Resulting in accidental posting of busty lesbian pr0n.

Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 10:34 AM (71OEY)

377 Time for everyone to share dumb home improvement stories to make Ace feel better. I'll start: My FIL was doing some electrical work around the house and asked me to go down and shut off the breaker for the area he was working on. I went down and turned one off and the area's power was off so I told him to get started. I flipped the one that said "200." Apparently that is the whole house one. Definitely got called an idiot for that.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 10:34 AM (xeeHA)

378 >>>344 You didn't piss in the drill and bag it yet did you? You know, since it was in reverse. I'll test it when I put up my next shelves or the cubby hole thing I might mount to the wall. (Clearing the floor of furniture for the (small, non-cage) squat station requires that I get rid of most shit on the floor.) I think even moving forward, this thing is going to suck. But we'll see then.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:34 AM (8rNrN)

379 At #357: The drill bit was designed by Hewlett-Packard. It uses reverse polish rotation.

Posted by: Pep at January 30, 2017 10:34 AM (6pyeg)

380 An Ikea drill? Posted by: Anna Puma ------------- Welcome to Post Modern America.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 10:34 AM (NBHj5)

381 266 I feel very, very stupid.

But you guys were right-- the drill actually had a different mechanism for toggling in/out.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:25 PM (8rNrN)


We've all been there.  Not really.  But it seems like a nice thing to say.


Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 30, 2017 10:34 AM (GX63o)

382 One of the best products is the drill bit to take out stripped or broken screws .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2017 10:34 AM (Z4z/q)

383 373 The Drill Doctor is in. Ready to answer all your home improvement questions. Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 03:33 PM (llUHc) That's a good name for a Home Improvement and Relationship Advice column

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 30, 2017 10:34 AM (Om16U)

384 *wheezes at desk* Shelvey, all kinds of horrible awfulness is going on in my life right now. This? This whole post and thread are a beacon of light and joy in my wilderness.

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 30, 2017 10:34 AM (mf5HN)

385 >>Recently spent bout 1k on shelves and openfaced bins. I now know what n organization erection is! I did that this summer. Twice more and I'll have then entire record collection shelved!

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 10:34 AM (OhOyF)

386 #358
Small cordless screwdrivers are barely adequate for even turning screws.  Seriously, they're a junk tool, not worth owning.

Here's the "manly equivalent":
http://tinyurl.com/japg728


Posted by: looking closely at January 30, 2017 10:34 AM (0hzM1)

387 Time for a classic Japanese commercial I think to lighten the mood.

https://youtu.be/bfFX0mUvw2E

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 10:34 AM (p77iU)

388 Can we get Guinness to validate this is the longest it ever took to put up a shelf in history?

Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 10:35 AM (llUHc)

389 On the other hand Ace you have a well informed audience with many skills. Ask first next time.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 10:35 AM (0AwCy)

390 363 Didn't the other PM Trudeau invoke martial law in the '70s to go after terrorists? Yes, against French-Canadian terrorists who had been bombing shit throughout the late '60s; then they kidnapped a British diplomat and a Canadian cabinet minister who was eventually killed by the kidnappers. If you're interested Bing "trudeau war measures act" for the details. Posted by: andycanuck at January 30, 2017 03:32 PM (nlbfN I thought current PM was really Castro's son.

Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 30, 2017 10:35 AM (j8aRL)

391 Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 03:29 PM (llUHc) The mechanics come and assemble stuff for me. Cat trees and an outdoor ping pong table. I supervise. They will not read the instructions. I stand there with an iPad making them watch the video. I bet they hate me when a giant box arrives. They also put my bike together. That's just lately.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2017 10:35 AM (8cEQL)

392 Don't feel bad, Shelvey. At least you have a cute nickname now.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 30, 2017 10:35 AM (Rsi2C)

393 Daily Beast posts fake news ab out Quebec mosque shooting. Hilarious! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6UkAXBZQzI

Posted by: Soothsayer GT with Electronic Fuel Injection at January 30, 2017 10:35 AM (/ZnTF)

394 Shep the asshole is fagging the fact that he thinks the ban includes arabs who worked for us... He fails to mention that Fredo totally ignored them and President Trump's Pentagon has already said those will be exempt and the Pentagon is working to gather a list and insure that. And of course they also have a useful idiot on now also and I don't care if he served, he is misinformed

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2017 10:35 AM (sRFAL)

395 We know Everything. Just ask us.
The wisdom of mobs.

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at January 30, 2017 10:35 AM (nlbfN)

396 One of my summer jobs in HS/college was working at a plumbing supply warehouse. After some razzing, the guys there more or less accepted the 'college boy'. When new people would come in, I got to see them get asked to go locate the "board lengtheners".

Posted by: El Skippito Friskito at January 30, 2017 10:35 AM (q/kmn)

397 Against this level of propaganda what peaceful recourse is left to us?

Posted by: Shiggz at January 30, 2017 10:35 AM (X8Fea)

398 388 Can we get Guinness to validate this is the longest it ever took to put up a shelf in history? Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 03:35 PM (llUHc) ====================== I'll just take the Guinness.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 10:35 AM (BjrOM)

399 maybe with a proper pilot hole they could have, But defintely not into the stud, pilot hole or not. It depends on the size of the drill bit. If you are drilling into something with limited elasticity, like century old hardwood studs or plastic, you drill the pilot hole the size of the inside of the threads, if you know what I mean. If it's spongy like a pine 2x4, then even a pencil lead thick is fine.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 10:35 AM (QQ+il)

400 Actually, that is one of the ambitions of every avid reader, a library that requires a ladder. Posted by: Mike Hammer

No shit, are them babies ever cool. My namesake, in more than one Miss Marple movie, actually scooted himself around the bookroom 'whilst' conducting library research to advance the plot, such as it was.

The secret is those tracks at the top. Not the wheels at the bottom. They even had them to go around corners. And, the little inset flat steps, instead of mere rungs? Classy, and expansive. The genuine highlife.

Posted by: Stringer Davis[/i][/b] at January 30, 2017 10:35 AM (H5rtT)

401 Here's the Rule: The first time you do anything , it will be, at best, less than optimal.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 10:36 AM (NBHj5)

402 >>>I'm impressed with the integrity kick... you didn't have to tell us! Good man. Posted by: Dirty Randy ... I could have concealed it and would have concealed it except the Morons were *so* insistent that even a piss-poor drill can get through drywall that I thought I kinda had to come clean. Well, I had the directionality right on the driver! Batting .500 will get you into the Hall of Fame first ballot!!!!

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:36 AM (8rNrN)

403 For some reason this entire thread reminds me of Barack Obama hanging Drapes. But, you know...less manly.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 10:36 AM (OhOyF)

404 https://tinyurl.com/jt9tucn ------------------------------------ Chuck the Schmuck was against before he was for it

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 30, 2017 10:36 AM (y3aQB)

405 Ordering a drill to screw into drywall? Does the set include testicles or are those sold separately?

Posted by: regular joe at January 30, 2017 10:36 AM (O50yS)

406 An Ikea drill? Posted by: Anna Puma Once you put it together it's really not bad. "They said that no one could make a drill out of pressboard!!"

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 30, 2017 10:36 AM (zc3Db)

407 Senators taking action to repeal Trump's temporary immigration/refugee ban. Trump's just making all of the sh#tweasels self-identify, isn't he? Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2017 03:30 PM (NOIQH) Will Corker, McStains and the Hermaphrodite flip?? Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 03:31 PM (UBQ2A) They have not yet begun to unconditional surrender

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 30, 2017 10:36 AM (493sH)

408 Well, it happens to all of us.

Got a new dishwasher a couple of weeks ago, and the tap from the hot-water line was a different type than the old one used. Same brand of dishwasher, too. Progress.

"Nertz", say I, "I'm going to sweat on a screw fitting to this hyar copper pipe so that the next time I need to change this thing I can just wrench it on and off."

So this is what I do.

And when the dishwasher install guy (upgrade to 5 year warranty if they install it, so worth the dough) turns on the new hose shut-off, it leaks like a sieve from the packing nut. Which no amount of tightening of said nut would stop.

At least I didn't have to sweat on the replacement, so I had that going for me.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 30, 2017 10:36 AM (nd1zx)

409 On the ONT I get amazed at some of the things they get into,

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 10:36 AM (0AwCy)

410 Hey Shelvey, wanna get high?

Posted by: Towelie at January 30, 2017 10:36 AM (eAZVt)

411 Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 03:34 PM (OhOyF) Stainless steel shelves? I love those. I put those in my laundry room and pantry.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2017 10:36 AM (8cEQL)

412 Wife: "Well, is it a load bearing wall?"
-----
Yes, dear.  That's why I'm changing the ball bearings in it.  *hammers ball bearings into electric outlet*

Posted by: Dang at January 30, 2017 10:36 AM (8b+oT)

413 one word: makita cordless drill.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 30, 2017 10:37 AM (WTSFk)

414 Here's the Rule: The first time you do anything , it will be, at best, less than optimal That's what SHE said.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at January 30, 2017 10:37 AM (MZVOx)

415 You never reuse cotter pins; they are strictly one-time-only.

You're not going to be driving around the Chicago metro area, are you?/whew!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 30, 2017 03:26 PM (nd1zx)



I replaced them all, I just didn't realize that it would be an issue until I had the wheel off and the pin broken.  The manual wasn't clear about that and the brake pads I bought didn't come with any hardware.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at January 30, 2017 10:37 AM (heTCV)

416 Shelvey? I think Stacker is better. Anyway, best way to do this is to pour three fingers of scotch, light a cigar, sit back and let the crew (bonded) that you hired get to work.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 30, 2017 10:37 AM (0tfLf)

417 Next moron meeting up with ace in attendance: I've got a 6 pack of good beer for anyone who sends him out to pick up some blinker fluid.

Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 10:37 AM (71OEY)

418 Get a Bosch 12 V cordless pocket driver. I've had a lot of different tools for dumb stuff like shelves, but this is by far the best. Light, cheap, powerful. Also predrill the damn holes. Dumbasss. Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost ______ +1 on that probably the tool I reach for most, every home owner should have one. You can use it to drive in screws into about anything or as just a powered screwdriver. Well worth the $120 or so. Black& Decker is pretty much junk these days. If I was starting my power tools from scratch, I would probably get the cordless Milwaukee "fuel" line. I have older DeWalt 18v. But I would still want the small Bosch driver.

Posted by: Maritime at January 30, 2017 10:37 AM (lzxL6)

419 Visited at a friend's house after he hung his own drywall. I'm staring at dozens of snapped-off screw shafts proud of the surface by a quarter-inch or so. Guy drops major coin on the MOST EXTREME BOOYAH impact driver to be sold to the public, then uses a dollar box of no-name Chinese drywall screws made out of pot metal, melamine, and spit.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 30, 2017 10:37 AM (noWW6)

420 um okay maybe I did have the drill set in the wrong position Does this mean no shaming/pissing ceremony?

Posted by: Marmo, not a historian at January 30, 2017 10:37 AM (xujbM)

421 Here's the "manly equivalent":
http://tinyurl.com/japg728>>>

Before cordless tools were a thing. I used to use Yankee Screwdrivers regularly.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 30, 2017 10:37 AM (wrS2o)

422 390 I thought current PM was really Castro's son. Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 30, 2017 03:35 PM (j8aRL) ---------------------- Ever since that story came out, when I look at current Trudeau I can see the resemblance to Castro. Plus current Trudeau is very tall, as was Castro, and former Trudeau was tiny.

Posted by: Boots at January 30, 2017 10:37 AM (EBwPV)

423 All kidding aside, I keep a small piece of wood with my drill that I use to test bits or screws before I am standing on the top of a ladder with one leg in the wind.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 10:37 AM (llUHc)

424 269 I'm choking to death here. Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 03:25 PM (QQ+il) Come on now, be fair to ace. This very thing has happened to me. Of course I figured it out after 60 seconds, but...oh, go ahead and laugh.

Posted by: joncelli, Deplorable MMA Afficianado at January 30, 2017 10:37 AM (RD7QR)

425 I was putting a new light into a closet once, tapped into an electrical cable nearby in the wall, got it all installed, looking good, with no problems, turned it on, and *pooF* the light shone really bright for about 1/2 second and burnt out.

So I says to myself "damn, bad bulb." so I put another bulb in, "*poof*, same thing, including the flash.  So I start to wonder, and recheck everything I did from the start.

Oops, that line in the wall I tapped into was the 220v dryer line, not a 110.  Oops.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 30, 2017 10:37 AM (esja+)

426 For some reason this entire thread reminds me of Barack Obama hanging Drapes.


Yeesh, I'd forgotten that horror.  I'm surprised those wispy wrists could even hold up the fabric.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 10:37 AM (PY9jH)

427 Here's the Rule: The first time you do anything , it will be, at best, less than optimal That's what SHE said. Posted by: rickb223 at January 30, 2017 03:37 PM (MZVOx) Not anal.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:38 AM (UBQ2A)

428 From the Rejected Saturday Cartoons Wiki

"Shelvey"

The beloved animated children's character that teaches the dangers of home remodeling.

Each week Shelvey injures himself with another tool or project and encourages children to sit still and eat more snacks in order to remain fat and safe.

interesting fact : Shelvey averaged a quart of blood loss per show prompting outrage from horrified parents and eventual cancellation.

Friends  and co-hosts :  Rip Saw, Claw Hammer and Trauma Surgeon - Dr. Emmett Holtzman MD 

Theme song : "Pain's Not Bad When You Get Used To It"

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! [/i][/b] at January 30, 2017 10:38 AM (Gv7El)

429 329 Ikea makes drills? Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 03:29 PM (CRotO) Yes, but you have to assemble them yourself. And you need a drill to do that.

Posted by: josephistan at January 30, 2017 10:38 AM (7HtZB)

430 As for the shooting, kinda disturbing just how much govt has lost trust in telling the truth. 24 hour rule is one thing but there have been enough cases of politicized prosecution that acquittal may be only valid option seeing history. And replace bits too. Get some dewalts or another major brand. Ran into it with some black and Decker masonry bits that did nothing. Replaced em with Ace hardware store brand and done in 5 minutes.

Posted by: Aacid at January 30, 2017 10:38 AM (T6CmC)

431 Next time you are in the manly domains, pick up a tool belt. It will save you from going up and down the ladder and from forgetting where you put things.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at January 30, 2017 10:38 AM (EZWNE)

432 I wonder how many refugees the Senate would prefer? Any number that isn't radically different than a historically average 50,000 is going to be extreme. Fine. Make them defend their new extreme, dangerous plan to vastly increase immigration from terrorist countries. I'm DYING to hear you defend that.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 10:38 AM (xeeHA)

433 I really want a library with a ladder even though we all know how that story will end. Time for everyone to share dumb home improvement stories to make Ace feel better. Last week the reading lamp I keep on the bedroom headboard wouldn't work. I checked the plug. I checked the outlet. I checked the power strip. I took the lamp into another room to test it there. I checked all the connections. Funny how putting in a new light bulb fixes all kinds of problems.

Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 30, 2017 10:38 AM (mf5HN)

434 lol josephistan.

Posted by: NCOs everywhere at January 30, 2017 10:38 AM (CRotO)

435 "Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2017 03:35 PM (8cEQL)" Wait. I think we're married. Lol

Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 10:38 AM (llUHc)

436 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 03:36 PM (NBHj5) That's exactly what the mechanic said after he put my ping pong table together.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2017 10:38 AM (8cEQL)

437 I recently ordered a replacement battery for my computer battery backup.  When to install, and lo and behold, it didn't fit.  Fired off a RMA request, citing the errors in the product listing, in an attempt to gain good graces, avoid restocking fee, etc.  Very convincing.


That is when it occurred to me that there are three orientations to fit a 3D rectangular cube object into a 3D rectangular cube space.  Doh!  Walkback of shame to get the RMA request disregarded.

In my defense, I was still recovering from the flu.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 30, 2017 10:38 AM (GX63o)

438 Andy Canuck, got a foot locker full of Readers Digests, used to collect the things at library sales. From the '60s to the '80s. One issue has a story about the whole mess which is why I kinda remember it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 10:39 AM (p77iU)

439 Some of the - real world - strongest people I have ever met are laborers. Working 8 hours a day doing physical labor builds a wiry strength that has to be felt to be believed.


Posted by: [/i] [/u] [/s] [/b]An Observation at January 30, 2017 10:40 AM (X/e4d)

440 You know what makes a great shelf?  The floor.  I have one in almost every room.  Holds a ton of shit.  And stuff.

Posted by: Dang at January 30, 2017 10:40 AM (8b+oT)

441 Get thee to a harbor freight, ace. The tools will be crappy, but functional and they're cheap as dirt. Just make sure to take a gun. They tend to be in...unsavory neighborhoods.

Posted by: Lauren at January 30, 2017 10:40 AM (Bp8U/)

442 @390 I thought current PM was really Castro's son. -------------- Nah. It was Geraldo that slept with his mom.

Posted by: junior at January 30, 2017 10:40 AM (nsZ+m)

443 Don't feel bad Ace. I stripped out an oil pan plug bolt once turning it the wrong direction. I just somehow got disoriented lying on my back and knew I was turning it the right way (I wasn't)

Posted by: Farmer Bob at January 30, 2017 10:40 AM (mN+tK)

444 435 "Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2017 03:35 PM (8cEQL)" Wait. I think we're married. Lol Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 03:38 PM (llUHc) "If you like pina colonics . . ."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:40 AM (UBQ2A)

445 220 221 whatever it takes

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2017 10:40 AM (Z4z/q)

446 Guy drops major coin on the MOST EXTREME BOOYAH impact driver to be sold to the public, then uses a dollar box of no-name Chinese drywall screws made out of pot metal, melamine, and spit. Impact driver with drywall screws? Uh...

Posted by: JEM at January 30, 2017 10:40 AM (TppKb)

447 >>>Come on now, be fair to ace. This very thing has happened to me. Of course I figured it out after 60 seconds, but...oh, go ahead and laugh. in my limited defense, the driver was also a piece of shit that didn't work (and that WAS in the correct position). So you can understand, maybe, my conclusion that neither worked and both were way underpowered and maybe power cord just wasn't delivering juice. ( I tried swapping power cords, thinking maybe I'd switched them up and they just weren't really charging like the should. But that wasn't it.) Also, I wasn't wearing reading glasses, and I really could not even see the marking on this doohickey with unaided eyes.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:40 AM (8rNrN)

448 Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 03:38 PM (llUHc) I'm helping them, they just don't know it.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2017 10:40 AM (8cEQL)

449 Had to replace the garbage disposal a few weeks ago after the motor burned out. Hanging shelves is a cakewalk.

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 10:40 AM (CRotO)

450 12 V tools? Meh.

Moar power!!!

The DeWalt FlexiVolt 20 V tools will take their 60V battery. Ace would have been done, and chilling with a vintage Value-Rite.

Posted by: Tim "Tool Man" Taylor[/i] at January 30, 2017 10:40 AM (DMUuz)

451 Should we even broach the topic of Levels and Squares with Ace? Or should we just let him be?

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 10:41 AM (OhOyF)

452 And this is why we had the Container store come and install all that shit. Correct tools: check. Guy who does it every day: check. Wife who will never let me forget the drilling-the-screw-in-the-cabinet incident 20 some years ago!: check. Did paint the library before all of this though..., Yeah! I'm da Man!

Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 30, 2017 10:41 AM (scP6Z)

453 441 Get thee to a harbor freight, ace. The tools will be crappy, but functional and they're cheap as dirt. Just make sure to take a gun. They tend to be in...unsavory neighborhoods. Posted by: Lauren at January 30, 2017 03:40 PM (Bp8U/) In NYC it's in Red Hook, and across the street from the Home Depot. F train to Smith-9th Street.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:41 AM (UBQ2A)

454 Shelvey, all kinds of horrible awfulness is going on in my life right now. This? This whole post and thread are a beacon of light and joy in my wilderness. Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 30, 2017 03:34 PM (mf5HN) Don't look out the window.

Posted by: Captain Frisky - Squirrel Commando at January 30, 2017 10:41 AM (hLRSq)

455 Former President Barack Obama issued a statement reacting to President Donald Trumps executive order to restrict immigration from high-risk countries in the Middle East, urging Americans to organize against the president. I just saw this, sorry if it has already been mention. What a classless fuck. I hope he drops dead. He is not longer my CIC. No violence mind you, nobody should lay a hand on him, but a thunder bolt from Heaven would not bother me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2017 10:41 AM (sRFAL)

456 Are you sure you had the drill on the "drill" spin direction (clockwise looking from "your"point of view) instead of the "remove" spin direction (unscrew - counter-clockwise from your point of view)?

It's happened to me ...more than once.

Posted by: Steamboat McGoo at January 30, 2017 10:41 AM (M6etg)

457 "Don't worry about the screws with the heads on the wrong end; those are for the other side of the wall!" Just to prevent any confusion, I keep those in a separate box along with the striped paint, the flight line, and the long weight.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 30, 2017 10:41 AM (noWW6)

458 Rechargeable drill motor that would probably handle 99% of advanced weekend warriors (I built my own 3,000+ sqft house by driving every nail). The big thing here is that the drill motor is much smaller and lighter than the big monsters and very easy to handle. I use it for 99% of the stuff I do. Hitachi-DS10DFL2

Posted by: john doesky at January 30, 2017 10:41 AM (ls21y)

459 If I can criticize Trump, I think he should have been more deft with the rollout. Like maybe just Syrian refugees first, stop taking them, and then watch the Left freak out while 90% of Americans supported it, then ratchet it up to include more, etc I think the way Trump did this (like current green card holders) gave Trump's enemies just enough of an opening. There was always going to be a freakout, but the goal is to make the freak out look as stupid as possible.

Posted by: Maritime at January 30, 2017 10:42 AM (lzxL6)

460 The hardest work out I've ever had was setting up my Total Gym. I had to take a break mid-way and drink some beer, eat a few slices of pizza, smoke a cig and then nap. I love it but putting these home gyms together are a bitch.

Posted by: Cheri at January 30, 2017 10:42 AM (oiNtH)

461 >>>Next time you are in the manly domains, pick up a tool belt. It will save you from going up and down the ladder and from forgetting where you put things. i saw on amazon they sell a magnetic wrist band to attach screws and small tools to. that seems Batmannish

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:42 AM (8rNrN)

462 95 i wish i'd ordered the impact driver now Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:07 ********** Right, this calls for MOAR POWER. less brainz

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at January 30, 2017 10:42 AM (QkS7+)

463 I thought I had the drill part taken care of.

Sounds to me as though you need a new battery pack.

Posted by: [/i] [/u] [/s] [/b]An Observation at January 30, 2017 10:42 AM (X/e4d)

464 Also, I wasn't wearing reading glasses, and I really could not even see the marking on this doohickey with unaided eyes.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:40 PM (8rNrN)



Those 29 y.o. eyes aren't what they used to be, I take it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 10:42 AM (PY9jH)

465 211 Went out and spent some good money and got one with a power cord, damn it! I hate these stupid rechargeables! Gimme 1970s' tech any day! Posted by: RKae at January 30, 2017 03:19 PM (EnhfY) THIS! I don't use power tools frequently. It seems like every-time I buy one with rechargeable batteries, I use it once, then next time I go to use it the battery has died of overcharging, undercharging, neglect, loneliness, smallpox or something. I have a cheap corded B&D I bought in the late '70s that still works, although I've had to replace the cord a couple of times.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 30, 2017 10:42 AM (tu3iY)

466 Ace, the creator of Shelve-Wow! Puts up shelves with no mess, no stress.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 10:42 AM (llUHc)

467 Also, I wasn't wearing reading glasses, and I really could not even see the marking on this doohickey with unaided eyes. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:40 PM (8rNrN) ----------- The more you go into this, ace, the more I think we should all just be thankful that you came out of this without a trip to the ER and with all your fingers. At least, I'm assuming you still have all your fingers.

Posted by: bluebell at January 30, 2017 10:42 AM (sBOL1)

468 Trump did basically what Obama himself did.I don't recall GW Bush calling for protests.

Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2017 10:42 AM (r/0kC)

469 Wait a minute... 1 1/2" screws in drywall are holding up bookshelves? Warning: do not stand under or near shelves at ace's place Even going into studs, you might want to consider a more butch screw and/ or drywall anchors.

Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 10:42 AM (71OEY)

470 Shelvey McManbag.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 30, 2017 10:42 AM (v30kf)

471 Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 03:41 PM (OhOyF) I think a laser leveler would help along with s stud finder.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2017 10:42 AM (Z4z/q)

472 455 What a classless fuck. I hope he drops dead. He is not longer my CIC. No violence mind you, nobody should lay a hand on him, but a thunder bolt from Heaven would not bother me Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2017 03:41 PM (sRFAL) You know my prayer? A long life watching everything he's done reversed, everything he believes in debunked and children mocking him as a joke.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:43 AM (UBQ2A)

473 >>>Should we even broach the topic of Levels and Squares with Ace? i was good with the level. AND the plumb. I don't have a square.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:43 AM (8rNrN)

474 459 If I can criticize Trump, I think he should have been more deft with the rollout. Posted by: Maritime at January 30, 2017 03:42 PM (lzxL6) ========================= Welp, you're cast out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 10:43 AM (BjrOM)

475 dude has to take a half day after putting up some shelves. If that doesn't represent the divide between urban and rural america, I don't know what does. (I kid, I kid. Not having a drill is a rookie mistake, using a screw driver to drive screws in to wood does suck.)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 30, 2017 10:43 AM (wmaTe)

476 Time for everyone to share dumb home improvement stories to make Ace feel better. Last week the reading lamp I keep on the bedroom headboard wouldn't work. I checked the plug. I checked the outlet. I checked the power strip. I took the lamp into another room to test it there. I checked all the connections. Funny how putting in a new light bulb fixes all kinds of problems. I put a dusk to dawn porch light on upside down. It keeps coming on, then going off. Need to flip it to where the light sensor is on top. The lights come on, it senses it's light out, lights go off. If the sensor it above the lights, it shouldn't turn off until it's daylight out.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at January 30, 2017 10:43 AM (MZVOx)

477 Had to replace the garbage disposal a few weeks ago after the motor burned out. Hanging shelves is a cakewalk. Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 03:40 PM (CRotO) -------- Anything done under a kitchen sink is a nightmare. Hate hate hate it.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 10:43 AM (xeeHA)

478 If I can criticize Trump, I think he should have been more deft with the rollout. ******** By all means, criticize. But realize this is just cwazy libs self soothing in public. I want moar. Ban all the immigration. Or at least knock down 3,000,000 legals a year to 100,000. What kind of rollout you want, eh? Sign an order, start enforcing it. oh my.

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at January 30, 2017 10:43 AM (QkS7+)

479 re" reading light.

Yes the Empress should advertise for minions.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 10:44 AM (p77iU)

480 395 We know Everything. Just ask us. The wisdom of mobs. Posted by: andycanuck
Mobs? https://youtu.be/oO6uBQJ35N0

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 30, 2017 10:44 AM (QeoFE)

481 ... btw, isn't that what wives are for?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 30, 2017 10:44 AM (WTSFk)

482 Please stop telling Ace about hammer drills. If he uses that on Sheetrock and studs he'll be drilling into his neighbors living room. Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 03:15 PM Most cordless hammer drills can be set to perform as a regular drill. The 'hammer' is just additional capability, available when needed and deserved. Did you consider that his neighbor may be fellow 29 year old, single, and impressed with a man that knows his way around drills? Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 30, 2017 03:24 PM (DMUuz) By the way, don't use a hammer drill in the floor slab on any floor other than the ground floor. Unless you like cleaning up the spalled concrete off of some poor bastard's desk. Didn't happen to me (seriously), but years ago I had to go through a day-long training course in order to be certified access to a major wireless carrier's switch centers. The instructor LITERALLY took 1/3 of the course talking about the dangers of using hammer drills to install equipment racks on 2nd floor or above.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 30, 2017 10:44 AM (XWkhW)

483 I think a laser leveler would help along with s stud finder. Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2017 03:42 PM (Z4z/q) it's called an eyeball and a knuckle.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 30, 2017 10:44 AM (wmaTe)

484 Well, for what it's worth, Quebec authorities are now calling the sole suspect in the Mosque shooting a.....'lone wolf." But they have declined to suggest a motive.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 30, 2017 10:44 AM (7uYFy)

485 Oops, that line in the wall I tapped into was the 220v dryer line, not a 110. Oops. --- Ya, I read you, man. I once wired the kitchen outlets to 220. The electrical inspector was delighted to red tag the job. The finish crew was not happy, my boss was not happy. My boss's boss was not happy. They found something else for me to do.

Posted by: Naughtchoes at January 30, 2017 10:44 AM (/5NOC)

486 Small cordless screwdrivers are barely adequate for even turning screws. Seriously, they're a junk tool, not worth owning.

This is so true, I just assumed it was what Ace's problem was. For the first 15 years or so of battery tools, this was standard, and I received any number of them as gifts. The kind of gifts that really make you remember the giver.

First battery version of the World-Famous Rotary Tool was just like that. It had so thoroughly soured their reputation at our place, I feel grateful for the temper tantrum that caused me to hurl that li'l sumbitch, and go buy the cheaper real-power one, which has served faithfully for many years.

I would, however, make sure the battery pack is fully disengaged and properly recycled before pissing on the tool. I know, that's just me. 

Posted by: Stringer Davis[/i][/b] at January 30, 2017 10:44 AM (H5rtT)

487 Word of advice. When you toss the drill, put it in the messenger bag first.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2017 10:44 AM (llUHc)

488 What a classless fuck. I hope he drops dead. He is not longer my CIC. No violence mind you, nobody should lay a hand on him, but a thunder bolt from Heaven would not bother me Posted by: Nevergiveup It didn't take long did it for Emperor Cluster to open his pie hole to community agitate?

Posted by: Cheri at January 30, 2017 10:44 AM (oiNtH)

489 There was always going to be a freakout, but the goal is to make the freak out look as stupid as possible.

==

*shrug*

I thought the goal was to protect the American people from terrorists.


Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! [/i][/b] at January 30, 2017 10:44 AM (Gv7El)

490 Get thee to a harbor freight, ace. The tools will be crappy, but functional and they're cheap as dirt. Just make sure to take a gun. They tend to be in...unsavory neighborhoods. Posted by: Lauren ________ I used to be a HF fan, but then I found out how steeped they are in Democrat politic fundraising. They are probably scared shitless Trump is going to start making China pay real tariffs.

Posted by: Maritime at January 30, 2017 10:44 AM (lzxL6)

491 449 Had to replace the garbage disposal a few weeks ago after the motor burned out. Hanging shelves is a cakewalk. Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 03:40 PM (CRotO) Replacing a garbage disposal means you don't walk for the next week. Personal experience.

Posted by: moon over vermont at January 30, 2017 10:44 AM (kUmUV)

492 >>I don't have a square. You have a tape / ruler and a basic knowledge of Geometry...the 3,4,5 Triangle is your friend.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 10:45 AM (OhOyF)

493 Anything done under a kitchen sink is a nightmare. Hate hate hate it. Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 03:43 PM (xeeHA) --- Yes it is.

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 10:45 AM (CRotO)

494 i saw on amazon they sell a magnetic wrist band to attach screws and small tools to. that seems Batmannish Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:42 PM (8rNrN) Bracelet Wrist band? More Catwomanish. You're going to be moving your hands around a lot and vibrating from the tools ... a bracelet doesn't sound like the best place to put screws and stuff with magnets.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 30, 2017 10:45 AM (zc3Db)

495 Stud finder...

Miss Scarlett, "Well hello there Col. Mustard!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 10:45 AM (p77iU)

496 422 390 I thought current PM was really Castro's son. Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 30, 2017 03:35 PM (j8aRL) ---------------------- Ever since that story came out, when I look at current Trudeau I can see the resemblance to Castro. Plus current Trudeau is very tall, as was Castro, and former Trudeau was tiny. Posted by: Boots at January 30, 2017 03:37 PM (EBwPV I find much humor in these plausible situations created by being lied to my entire life by government and media.

Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 30, 2017 10:45 AM (j8aRL)

497 ace, you know how we know about screwing the wrong way? Because we've all done it.

Posted by: Lord Sir x at January 30, 2017 10:45 AM (nFwvY)

498 I can see a new H&G tv show: "Remodel Rescue." Some hapless person or couple begins a remodel and has to call in an emergency squad of handymen to save their highly-mortgaged investment from being consumed by their ineptitude.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Bans, Slams, and Frenzies! Midwinter Sale at the Outrage Outlet! at January 30, 2017 10:45 AM (hLRSq)

499 488 It didn't take long did it for Emperor Cluster to open his pie hole to community agitate? Posted by: Cheri at January 30, 2017 03:44 PM (oiNtH) I expect the Trump reaction to be, shall we say, spirited if not vituperative.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:45 AM (UBQ2A)

500 Stringer - Then, there is this. Note the circular stairway, to the upper reaches, which extend all of the way around the room. http://www.galenfrysinger.com/images/biltmo9.jpg They by pass the chimney, thus: http://tinyurl.com/ha6jfwk

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 10:45 AM (NBHj5)

501 Yes, but you have to assemble them yourself. And you need a drill to do that.

And the manual is badly translated from Chinese.

Posted by: dartist at January 30, 2017 10:45 AM (n8oxI)

502 A couple of buck magnetic screw tip holder is all you need, some have a sleave to extend over the screw to hold it as well.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 10:45 AM (0AwCy)

503 Shelf-pics or it didn't happen

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at January 30, 2017 10:45 AM (PNcou)

504 i was good with the level. AND the plumb. But does it look right? Old buildings are often no longer square or plumb themselves. I once put up curtains in a house that were perfectly level to the universe, and looked like crap because the house was leaning a tiny bit.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 10:45 AM (QQ+il)

505 "Get thee to a harbor freight, ace. The tools will be crappy, but functional and they're cheap as dirt." I would be very leery of anything electrical from Horror Fright. Out of morbid curiosity, I've taken apart a couple of dead power tools of theirs that friends tossed to me when I was making an e-waste run. Basically they'll take a tool for which a Chinese firm has a branded contract manufacturing run for a Western company, then alter the name and the external cosmetics, and substitute internals that failed quality control for the first batch. They do have occasional decent things, but it requires eternal vigilance and a strict eye to detail to be able to pick them out of the reeking swamp.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 30, 2017 10:45 AM (noWW6)

506 Get thee to a harbor freight, ace. The tools will be crappy, but functional and they're cheap as dirt. Just make sure to take a gun. They tend to be in...unsavory neighborhoods. The one I frequent in Newark, CA is actually in the midst of an Asian mall. My rule on HF: I don't buy their cordless stuff. Much of the corded stuff is VERY good for the money but sometimes a bit low-tech on the switchgear and ergonomics. Some of the hand tools are top-grade, some are just so-so, a few are junk, they're all much better than they were a few years back. And of course the place smells like Chinese grease and rubber when you walk in the door. Let's see, I've got about half a dozen HF ratchet handles, maybe 30 various sorts of ratcheting box wrenches, maybe the same number of conventional combination wrenches, various screwdrivers, couple dead-blow hammers, about half a dozen 4.5in angle grinders, an SDS hammer-drill, a couple floor jacks, a transmission jack, an oil drain, a couple hose reels, a couple cord reels, give me half an hour and I'm sure I could think of a lot more... http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27192

Posted by: JEM at January 30, 2017 10:46 AM (TppKb)

507 495 Stud finder... Miss Scarlett, "Well hello there Col. Mustard!" Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 03:45 PM (p77iU) Is that a candlestick in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:46 AM (UBQ2A)

508 "Well, well, well, lookie here. A file containing all of ex-president Obama's college records, birth certificates, etc. Well, well, well. Wonder where that came from?"

Posted by: President Donald Trump Feels Better About The CIA Today For Some Reason at January 30, 2017 10:46 AM (nd1zx)

509 I was putting together a really nice armoire (sp?) for my wife.... had these fruity little curved feet..... screwed them on, stood the thing up, and remarked on the stupidity of the design.... these little legs all faced in! Sure didn't look very sturdy to me, what the hell is this shit?!?!


I think the end of this story is fairly obvious.....


Posted by: Dirty Randy at January 30, 2017 10:46 AM (jjaLl)

510 >>>Even going into studs, you might want to consider a more butch screw and/ or drywall anchors. 1 1/2 isn't enough? Well, there aren't books on them yet. When my drill gets here, I'll take them out and swap with... what, 2 inches? I read a guy on the internet (always a bad way to start a sentence) saying "Don't use a longer screw than you actually need," and I thought he recommended 1 1/4 inch screws for stud. If the drywall is 3/8 - 5-8, that's still.... well I don't know. I took this guy's advice because the two inch screws were impossible. But I can pull those out and replace them. The drywall anchors I just used the screws that came with them. The heavier anchors were toggle type with screws like two and a quarter inches. Pretty long.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:46 AM (8rNrN)

511 The rule "Lefty Lucy, Eighty Tighty" has saved me a lot of grief. As long as you make sure you remember it is from the perspective of the top of the screw/ turn.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at January 30, 2017 10:46 AM (EZWNE)

512 474 459 If I can criticize Trump, I think he should have been more deft with the rollout. Posted by: Maritime at January 30, 2017 03:42 PM (lzxL6) ========================= Welp, you're cast out. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 03:43 PM (BjrOM) I know he did implement, but I wish he had been more public and emphasized that those refugees who worked for the military putting their lives on the line would be given priority vetting.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2017 10:46 AM (Z4z/q)

513 Welp, you're cast out. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 03:43 PM (BjrOM) ---------- Them's the rules.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 10:46 AM (xeeHA)

514 It's Twue. Athe knowth hith way awound a Plum.

Posted by: Barney Frank at January 30, 2017 10:46 AM (OhOyF)

515 There was always going to be a freakout, but the goal is to make the freak out look as stupid as possible. Posted by: Maritime at January 30, 2017 03:42 PM (lzxL6) We have it on good authority that Hitl, erh we mean Trump never lifts the seat when he pees

Posted by: MSM at January 30, 2017 10:46 AM (sRFAL)

516 Nah. It was Geraldo that slept with his mom. Posted by: junior at January 30, 2017 03:40 PM (nsZ+m) Too soon! We need to normalize pedophilia first!

Posted by: SJWs at January 30, 2017 10:46 AM (7HtZB)

517 Posted by: torquewrench at January 30, 2017 03:45 PM (noWW6) I don't like that store. It's sketchy.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2017 10:46 AM (8cEQL)

518 one word: makita cordless drill.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 30, 2017 03:37 PM


I do not think that phrase means what you think it means.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at January 30, 2017 10:46 AM (DMUuz)

519
Like maybe just Syrian refugees first, stop taking them, and then watch the Left freak out while 90% of Americans supported it, then ratchet it up to include more, etc

I think the way Trump did this (like current green card holders) gave Trump's enemies just enough of an opening.



Your concern is

[x] Noted
[] Not Noted

Posted by: [/i] [/u] [/s] [/b]An Observation at January 30, 2017 10:46 AM (X/e4d)

520 Shelvey, sometimes a man's gotta know his limitations. D. Harry

Posted by: Diogenes at January 30, 2017 10:46 AM (0tfLf)

521 There was always going to be a freakout, but the goal is to make the freak out look as stupid as possible. == *shrug* I thought the goal was to protect the American people from terrorists. Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her ___________ Problem is, enough Republican Senators defect, Trump is not going to be able to do much about immigration outside of Executive Orders. I'd like real legislation being passed like a wall being built, E-Verify, etc Judges also can't block it as easily.

Posted by: Maritime at January 30, 2017 10:47 AM (lzxL6)

522 Replacing a garbage disposal means you don't walk for the next week. Personal experience. Posted by: moon over vermont at January 30, 2017 03:44 PM (kUmUV) --- As a former turret repairer, cramped quarters wasn't a big deal. Now, 10 years later, not as easy. Yeah, the back was hurting big time.

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 10:47 AM (CRotO)

523 #447
So the sun was in your eyes?

Seriously, not to be trite or anything, but good tools. . .help. . .a LOT.   Then there's the issue of actually knowing how to use them.

BTW, you're building some sort of weight-lifting thing?  If you aren't, you know, super handy building stuff, maybe make sure you're building it right, or have some handy person help you.  

Fortunately, hasn't happened to me, but I can only imagine the "ouchie" that occurs when a loaded 260lb barbell falls onto your soft floor (or toe). 

Posted by: looking closely at January 30, 2017 10:47 AM (0hzM1)

524 Now that you've mastered the forward/reverse switch, are you familiar with hammer drills and impact drivers?  Or if you need to do a little concrete work, the rotary hammer?

Posted by: Fritz at January 30, 2017 10:47 AM (2Mnv1)

525 Chucky Shumy and Democrats are vowing to stop any Trump Supreme Court nominee to repay for Garland

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 10:47 AM (0AwCy)

526 so seriously how long should the screws in the studs be?

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:47 AM (8rNrN)

527 513 Welp, you're cast out. Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 03:43 PM (BjrOM) ---------- Them's the rules. Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 03:46 PM (xeeHA) ====================== I don't make. I don't even enforce them. I just smugly recite them. Hey, someone's gotta do it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 10:47 AM (BjrOM)

528 459 There was always going to be a freakout, but the goal is to make the freak out look as stupid as possible.


Normally, I would agree with you on this, but with Trump, the freakout has been so over-the-top irrational for so long now, that I think he can skip this stage in strategizing.
For the non-leftists in this country, the presumption has now switched - Instead of thinking, "Wow! Look at the outrage! The Republicans must have done something really extreme!" people are now just thinking it's the Left being the Left again.

Posted by: Ted K. at January 30, 2017 10:47 AM (seSmy)

529 Former President Barack Obama issued a statement reacting to President Donald Trumps executive order to restrict immigration from high-risk countries in the Middle East, urging Americans to organize against the president. You knew the queen couldn't keep his mouth shut for too long besides having Reggie's dick in it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 30, 2017 10:47 AM (493sH)

530 This old Ewok... I had a friend that did the IKEA hack thing, where you use premade Billy bookcases from Ikea to make a custom bookshelf, then added crown molding and other details. Turned out really nice! http://hative.com/ikea-billy-hacks/ "Ettes might need the shoe rack hack!

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2017 10:47 AM (hvf9s)

531 525 Chucky Shumy and Democrats are vowing to stop any Trump Supreme Court nominee to repay for Garland Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 03:47 PM (0AwCy) 51 votes. Nuclear option. Check and mate. BUT . . . GOP-e.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:48 AM (UBQ2A)

532 Definitely got called an idiot for that.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 03:34 PM (xeeHA)


Honestly, that would be the best choice.  Say, do you know what is black and crispy hanging from the ceiling?

An amateur electrician.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at January 30, 2017 10:48 AM (7N6ox)

533 >>Time for everyone to share dumb home improvement stories to make Ace feel better My dad, it usually starts this way, decided that we needed to get rid of a couple old chicken coops on the farm to make room for a new barn. These things were at least 80 years old and the wood was dry as a bone and the roofs were covered with multiple levels of tar paper. So we tore them down and made pile of the old wood the approximate size of a school bus out in a field near a bunch of dead apple trees in order to burn it all up. Because that seemed like a great idea. We were armed with a couple racks, a shovel and a garden house which feed off our well and had the pressure of an old man with prostate issues. My dad was concerned it wouldn't burn well so he doused the entire thing with a five gallon can of gasoline. I think you can see where this is heading. Thing went up like the Olympic torch and threatened to get out of control quickly. My mother and sister high tailed it for the house to hide while a ranger in a fire tower 10 miles away called in the blaze. The fire department arrived to find me covered in soot with my eyebrows burned off peeing on the raging blaze with my pathetic garden hose and battling away with my trusty rake. They stayed for a while to taunt us and then got bored and left. At about 9pm that evening it looked like we had it under control when I noticed smoke pouring out of a whole in a dead apple tree about 50 feet away. The fire was so hot it set dead roots under ground on fire. So on came the chain saws and about 2 in the morning we finally had the thing put out. When I started to give my dad shit about what the hell was he thinking I got the usual "What? It's cleared isn't it?" Only took about 3 months for eyebrows to grow back. Thanks dad.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 30, 2017 10:48 AM (/tuJf)

534 Anything done under a kitchen sink is a nightmare. Hate hate hate it. Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 03:43 PM (xeeHA) --- Yes it is. Posted by: SMFH ------------ One of my special tools is a Basin Wrench. Damned handy for getting at the bottom of faucets/fixtures.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 10:48 AM (NBHj5)

535 I have a few old 18 v Dewalts (a couple of drills, hammer drill, 2 chargers and a bunch of batteries) that get the job done pretty well. The tools are all fine, the battery life is not in the best shape but I used them commercially for a few years and have used them as a home owner for 5+ years, and batteries just dont last that long. I would recommend getting tools like that though, ace. Home owner-grade, but on the higher end. The little 14 volt black and decker POS's are not worth the money. You'll be replacing them way too often to make it worth it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 30, 2017 10:48 AM (wmaTe)

536 It didn't take long did it for Emperor Cluster to open his pie hole to community agitate?
Posted by: Cheri at January 30, 2017 03:44 PM (oiNtH)

I expect the Trump reaction to be, shall we say, spirited if not vituperative.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 03:45 PM (UBQ2A)



Oh, I do hope so.  Something like, "Since Obama spent the majority of his time as president on the golf course, he needs to stay on it.  An adult is in charge now."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 10:48 AM (PY9jH)

537 Test. Trying to give a story update but keep getting error messages.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 30, 2017 10:48 AM (72PAC)

538 Judges also can't block it as easily. Posted by: Maritime at January 30, 2017 03:47 PM (lzxL6) Actually in the long run I doubt it. I'm no lawyer but it seems pretty clear that this Authority rests with the Executive and The Congress.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2017 10:48 AM (sRFAL)

539 Dewalt or bust....My Dewalt impact driver will put a screw completely through a 2x4 into another 2x4. If the bit is long enough it might just keep going, 2x4s all the way down so to speak.

Posted by: DanInMN at January 30, 2017 10:48 AM (h5ffp)

540 "Ettes might need the shoe rack hack! Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2017 03:47 PM (hvf9s) --- How about a gun rack hack?

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 10:48 AM (CRotO)

541 526 so seriously how long should the screws in the studs be? Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:47 PM (8rNrN) How long you got, sailor?

Posted by: Barney Frank at January 30, 2017 10:48 AM (7HtZB)

542 i had the same trouble with a drill. piece of crap. went out and got a milwaukee with the works. it makes me happy

Posted by: concrete girl at January 30, 2017 10:48 AM (PXhFc)

543 The Trump team needs to keep giving it to the opposition good and hard, and by hard I mean fuck those assholes. They have earned it.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 30, 2017 10:49 AM (6Ll1u)

544 I'm sure I could think of a lot more... Okay, the abrasive cutoff saw, the baby hand-held sandblaster, the giant angle drill, many many sets of their Torx bits w 1/4-drive socket adapter, and the 300-ish piece hand-tool set that I throw in the back of the car for trips and junkyard runs.

Posted by: JEM at January 30, 2017 10:49 AM (TppKb)

545 Small cordless screwdrivers are barely adequate for even turning screws. Seriously, they're a junk tool, not worth owning. Please ... I have a small, crappy B+D cordless screwdriver that has worked fine for years. It has more than enough power to drive screws in everything I've ever tried and it's convenient.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 30, 2017 10:49 AM (zc3Db)

546 Is that a candlestick in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? Posted by: J.J. Sefton - - - - That's no candlestick Sweetheart. Pure 'Merican lead pipe!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at January 30, 2017 10:49 AM (0tfLf)

547 Ace, I laughed my ass off at your description of installing those shelves. I can relate. There is no substitute for experience and you will get better. My wife never saw an existing ceiling fan or light fixture she didn`t hate. I bet I have replaced 20 or more in total. It`s much easier now than it was the first couple of times.

Posted by: firecaptainTX at January 30, 2017 10:49 AM (dhxso)

548 "Did you consider that his neighbor may be fellow 29 year old, single, and impressed with a man that knows his way around drills?" The last time I helped a fetchingly attractive neighbor out with a household repair, she told me she was so impressed, she was going to tell her date for the night what a nice guy I am.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 30, 2017 10:49 AM (noWW6)

549 Went out and spent some good money and got one with a power cord, damn it! I hate these stupid rechargeables!

Gimme 1970s' tech any day!

Posted by: RKae at January 30, 2017 03:19 PM (EnhfY)


THIS! I don't use power tools frequently. It seems like every-time I buy one with rechargeable batteries, I use it once, then next time I go to use it the battery has died of overcharging, undercharging, neglect, loneliness, smallpox or something.

I have a cheap corded B&D I bought in the late '70s that still works, although I've had to replace the cord a couple of times.

Posted by: Iowa Bob

-----

Really thinking about getting gone of these.  The drill everyone used when I was a kid.

http://tinyurl.com/zngxpmf

I could even drill holes during a power outage or zombie apocalypse.



Posted by: Dang at January 30, 2017 10:49 AM (8b+oT)

550 Like maybe just Syrian refugees first, stop taking them, and then watch the Left freak out while 90% of Americans supported it, then ratchet it up to include more, etc *** My understanding is he got the list of countries from the Obama administration. Personally, I've got no problem with all green cards from countries with a terrorism problem being immediately cancelled and ALL Muslim immigration stopped. We've got enough problems with immigration from central America as it is. Let Eurabia absorb them if it wants.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2017 10:49 AM (aZq03)

551 250 Jane, to be fair, I'm sure that they can demo it no problem. It's the putting back together that's an issue. Posted by: alexthechick - all your caps are belong to me at January 30, 2017 03:21 PM (mf5HN) We're hiring a pro to do the remodel. It's the OMG getting the old bathtub down the stairs without destroying the stairway. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 03:23 PM (PY9jH) Never met a bathtub a reciprocating saw couldn't section into man packable pieces. Might need a couple of good blades and frequent beer breaks.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at January 30, 2017 10:49 AM (FtrY1)

552 I love my 20 year old 75th anniversary edition Black & Decker drill driver, so much that I have two and have had to replace the batteries.

Posted by: Lord Sir x at January 30, 2017 10:49 AM (nFwvY)

553 471 Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 03:41 PM (OhOyF)

I think a laser leveler would help along with s stud finder.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2017 03:42 PM (Z4z/q)


Stud finder?  Ace already said he wanted to do it himself.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 30, 2017 10:49 AM (GX63o)

554 in my limited defense, the driver was also a piece of shit that didn't work (and that WAS in the correct position).

So you can understand, maybe, my conclusion that neither worked and both were way underpowered and maybe power cord just wasn't delivering juice. ( I tried swapping power cords, thinking maybe I'd switched them up and they just weren't really charging like the should. But that wasn't it.)

Also, I wasn't wearing reading glasses, and I really could not even see the marking on this doohickey with unaided eyes.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:40 PM (8rNrN)


Remember the first rule of <s>digging</s> drilling holes...

Posted by: yaedon at January 30, 2017 10:49 AM (qdhQS)

555 Oh Ace Ace Ace. Do I need to totally rearrange my ideas about you? LOL

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at January 30, 2017 10:49 AM (nQ10o)

556 Putting up shelves. Anybody advise Ace to use a level? Oops, too late.

Posted by: wth at January 30, 2017 10:50 AM (HgMAr)

557 Time for everyone to share dumb home improvement stories to make Ace feel better ---------- I set out to replace a faucet washer. Three days later, I was replacing drywall.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 10:50 AM (NBHj5)

558 Unless you pan on doing chinups on the shelving, 2" Wood Screws will be fine. One every 16". In a Stud.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 10:50 AM (OhOyF)

559 531 51 votes. Nuclear option. Check and mate. BUT . . . GOP-e. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 03:48 PM (UBQ2A) ================== Except....McCain's stated preference to offer deference to presidential picks for SCOTUS and cabinet appointments. If Democrats come out swinging, acknowledging that they'll never allow any nominee through, it might (MIGHT) be enough to convince McCain to nuke the filibuster. He'll have two Senate traditions at war with each other. The question is which one does he hold with?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 10:50 AM (BjrOM)

560 >>>>>THIS! I don't use power tools frequently. It seems like every-time I buy one with rechargeable batteries, I use it once, then next time I go to use it the battery has died of overcharging, undercharging, neglect, loneliness, smallpox or something.

I have a cheap corded B&D I bought in the late '70s that still works, although I've had to replace the cord a couple of times.
.
.
.
.The newer ones that don't come from the dollar store don't have those issues anymore.  I have had the Ryobi 18v system from Home Depot for about 8 years now and I have had zero battery issues. 

I have a drill, 8 inch chop saw, tire inflator, weed wacker, mini chain saw, area light and spot light that work from the same battery.  I have never had to toss a battery out in 8 years. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 30, 2017 10:50 AM (le7jz)

561 Only took about 3 months for eyebrows to grow back. Thanks dad. Posted by: JackStraw at January 30, 2017 03:48 PM (/tuJf) ---------- Now I see why you like to be around the water so much.

Posted by: bluebell at January 30, 2017 10:50 AM (sBOL1)

562 Ace: are you touching your shelf right now?

Posted by: Todd at January 30, 2017 10:50 AM (DoGC8)

563 Try that again...

Really thinking about getting gone of these. The drill everyone used when I was a kid.

http://tinyurl.com/zngxpmf

I could even drill holes during a power outage or zombie apocalypse.

Posted by: Dang at January 30, 2017 10:50 AM (8b+oT)

564 I expect the Trump reaction to be, shall we say, spirited if not vituperative. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at That is why I believe and hope that Trump shows both Obama and Clinton no mercy for their deeds. Cut the heads off of the snakes and the others will shrink back.

Posted by: Cheri at January 30, 2017 10:50 AM (oiNtH)

565 @455 To steal the words of Juiliane Malveux, "You know, I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease." Here's hoping that Obama has taken up smoking again now that he's an ex-President.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 30, 2017 10:50 AM (3Xxpy)

566 one more thing in my defense: On the thing I was using as a driver, the side-to-side toggle was the safety, which, obviously, either made the tool active or inactive. On this Ikea one, the side to side toggle was the reverse/forward. I thought it was the safety, because... well, same position, pretty much, same side-to-side action.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:51 AM (8rNrN)

567 My brother took all my Dad's power tools when he died. And now we're not on speaking terms. Sigh.

Posted by: josephistan at January 30, 2017 10:51 AM (7HtZB)

568 #506
On Harbor Freight.  My experience has been that its a total mixed bag.  Some of their tools are just junk.  Some are simply low end, but perfectly fine for that one time job, or limited use.  Some are good.  And some are just an amazing bargain, in terms of bang/buck.

Posted by: looking closely at January 30, 2017 10:51 AM (0hzM1)

569 Should have read....for their misdeeds.

Posted by: Cheri at January 30, 2017 10:51 AM (oiNtH)

570 Ace, Get speed square and learn to use it. It makes carpentry sexual

Posted by: Krakenboner at January 30, 2017 10:51 AM (SvyK5)

571 My husband is actually pretty good with plumbing issues.  Installed a new disposal, and replaced some old PVC pipe under the house.

So there's that.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 10:51 AM (PY9jH)

572 Problem is, enough Republican Senators defect, Trump is not going to be able to do much about immigration outside of Executive Orders.
I'd like real legislation being passed like a wall being built, E-Verify, etc
Judges also can't block it as easily.
===

Yeah I get what you are saying. I was just being a dick.

Executive Orders are only going to be fun for a while. America wasn't made to work like this. Eventually we have to get a functional Congress to pass actual law.

I really think that Trump either has a plan or is formulating a plan for traitor Senators that goes beyond Tweet-spanking them publicly.

Should be fun to watch.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! [/i][/b] at January 30, 2017 10:51 AM (Gv7El)

573 y sell a magnetic wrist band to

You get stuck to the ceiling over the weekend you'll get mighty hungry.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 30, 2017 10:51 AM (8J/Te)

574 I'm still wrapping my head around an Ikea drill.

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 10:51 AM (CRotO)

575 552 I love my 20 year old 75th anniversary edition Black & Decker drill driver, so much that I have two and have had to replace the batteries. Posted by: Lord Sir x at January 30, 2017 03:49 PM (nFwvY) I have two wall-powered drills from my dad and my uncle. Big old classic fat metal body. Can't remember the brands but they're tough as nails. Each is well over 50 years old.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:52 AM (UBQ2A)

576 Thickness of drywall + 1 1/2 " in wood studs should be fine

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 10:52 AM (0AwCy)

577 >>Now I see why you like to be around the water so much. water - good fire - bad

Posted by: JackStraw at January 30, 2017 10:52 AM (/tuJf)

578 Honestly, that would be the best choice. Say, do you know what is black and crispy hanging from the ceiling?An amateur electrician. Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at January 30, 2017 03:48 PM (7N6ox) ------ Oh, he's a licensed electrician. But a bit lazy, considering that I'D never trust someone else to turn off the power.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 10:52 AM (xeeHA)

579 *hands ace a Dewalt Pneumatic Nail Gun Let's watch

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 30, 2017 10:52 AM (2x9LM)

580 526 so seriously how long should the screws in the studs be? Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:47 PM (8rNrN) can you please rephrase the question? If you mean how long should screws be to hold up a book shelf (assuming you are screwing in to wood studs), the answer is long enough to get a good bite of the stud. 1 1/2 or 1 3/4 screws are usually pretty sufficient for most stuff I do. I guess it depends on what screws you're using and how much weight will be on them. Usually book shelves come with screws, I would just screw those screws all the way in and call it a day.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 30, 2017 10:52 AM (wmaTe)

581 of course, replacing these screws is going to be a bitch because I almost certainly stripped them on the way in.... so next question: How do I pull out a stripped screw?

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 10:52 AM (8rNrN)

582 Oh, and I agree, Trump needs to keep rolling. The standard argument is that a president can only advance in so many areas as once, but I think the opposite is true, at least in Trump's case. I want to seem him ban/restrict H1Bs and roll out his SC nomination next.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2017 10:52 AM (aZq03)

583 I set out to replace a faucet washer. Three days later, I was replacing drywall. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 03:50 PM (NBHj5) That sums up every home project/car repair I've ever been involved in (going all the way back to my childhood). Project creep is real, and (not) spectacular.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 30, 2017 10:52 AM (8hICw)

584 I like that guy Norm A-frame.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:52 AM (UBQ2A)

585 Why are you Shelvey and not the singular form: Shelfey?

Posted by: Disgusted at January 30, 2017 10:52 AM (bqD5h)

586 Dewalt or bust....My Dewalt impact driver will put a screw completely through a 2x4 into another 2x4. I have almost as big a hardon for Dewalt 20v stuff as I do for Trump's cabinet picks. The 1/2in drill, the 3/8 angle drill, the angled-motor recip saw, the 1/2in impact wrench, the hedge trimmer, the 20V-battery-to-USB adapter, couple other things I can't recall. Don't have the angle grinder (yet, that's next) or the weedwacker or portable blower (have B&D units that's adequate for now).

Posted by: JEM at January 30, 2017 10:52 AM (TppKb)

587 Time for everyone to share dumb home improvement stories to make Ace feel better. I tore the chimney out of my two story 1927 era house in Minneapolis. I did this by knocking bricks off and working my way down through the house, sitting on top of the chimney. got stuck at one point. Ended up creating a blockage, as I was dropping the bricks down into the basement. I managed to clear the blockage, dramatically, which was the functional equivalent of a masonry dust dirty bomb in my house. All if this is fine and good, except that my wife went into labor in the middle of that day with my second child. So there was this period of my wife hollering at me that the contractions were getting closer, and me saying I can't go to the hospital with the roof wide open and covered in dust. So she went to bed and the contractions stopped. And I completely trashed her completely clean house (she had already been "nesting") and the baby came three weeks late, at over 9 pounds. I'm still married to her, but talk about the grace of God.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 30, 2017 10:52 AM (yL25O)

588 If I can criticize Trump, I think he should have been more deft with the rollout. Posted by: Maritime at January 30, 2017 03:42 PM (lzxL6) ========================= Welp, you're cast out. Posted by: TheJamesMadison _______ I'm fine being labeled a concern troll, I'm not going to be one of these "God Emperor" types regarding Trump, that can do no wrong. I happen to support what he's doing here entirely, but I think he was done in a clumsy way that gave his critics an opening. He's already had to reverse himself on the Green card stuff, which should have been pretty straightforward not to go after and would give the judges something to pounce on. At this point with all the outrage, I think he should just start deporting DREAMERS, might as well get lost in the noise.

Posted by: Maritime at January 30, 2017 10:53 AM (lzxL6)

589 >>>BTW, if anyone wants to call me Shelvey, I'd like that just fine. Posted by Ace at 02:54 PM Comments I think we should call you "stud." I assumed that that is why you put the word "stud" twice in the post, so we'd have a sort of subliminal hint.

Posted by: m [/b][/i][/s][/u] at January 30, 2017 10:53 AM (3jGss)

590 579 *hands ace a Dewalt Pneumatic Nail Gun Let's watch Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 30, 2017 03:52 PM (2x9LM) --- Ha!

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 10:53 AM (CRotO)

591 One of my special tools is a Basin Wrench. Damned handy for getting at the bottom of faucets/fixtures. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 03:48 PM (NBHj5) -------- I had never heard of those until my most recent task under the kitchen sink. Those things are FUCKING MAGIC. I'd have paid 10 times as much as they cost.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 10:53 AM (xeeHA)

592 If the screws are squealing and still hard to drive in all the way, rub some soap on the threads. They'll go in a lot easier. Veeny schlider for screws.

Posted by: dartist at January 30, 2017 10:53 AM (n8oxI)

593 Oh, I knew somebody that decided the garage fireplace (seriously, we had one, I never knew why) was a good place to get rid of the old dried-out Christmas tree one January; never mind that it didn't fit, should work just to light the pointy end and push it in to the fireplace as it burned.

(WHHOOOOOOOOMMMMMMPPPPPPPH1!!!!!!!)

No, it wasn't me; I was the one having hysterics while rapidly hooking up the hose reel.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 30, 2017 10:53 AM (nd1zx)

594 Nah. It was Geraldo the Rolling Stones that slept with his mom.
Fixed.

Only kidding. They all did!

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at January 30, 2017 10:53 AM (nlbfN)

595 Trumps biggest mistake was campaigning for McCain against Ward and giving McCain any endorsement at all.

Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 30, 2017 10:53 AM (j8aRL)

596 Or go all out and get a lazer line level, you will be fixing things all the time.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 10:53 AM (0AwCy)

597 "Here's hoping that Obama has taken up smoking again now that he's an ex-President." Don't think that al-Buraq actually ever quit. There are occasional candid photos of him bumming smokes when he was thinking no one would take notice.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 30, 2017 10:53 AM (noWW6)

598 iran violates shitty iran nuclear agreement fredo negotiated and fredo goes after President Trump?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2017 10:54 AM (sRFAL)

599 The Trump team needs to keep giving it to the opposition good and hard, and by hard I mean fuck those assholes. They have earned it. Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 30, 2017 03:49 PM (6Ll1u) Barry: ohhh...Me first!!....*squeals*

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 30, 2017 10:54 AM (493sH)

600 #566
You're just digging deeper.   There are no "standard" controls on power tools. They mostly have the same functions, and there are often significant similarities, but details can vary significantly between different makes and models.

They're sort of like semi-auto pistols in that regard.

Reading the manual. . .doesn't hurt, by the way.

Posted by: looking closely at January 30, 2017 10:54 AM (0hzM1)

601 The Red Ryder edition of a Dewalt Pneumatic Nail Gun???

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 10:54 AM (p77iU)

602 >> of course, replacing these screws is going to be a bitch because I almost certainly stripped them on the way in.... Likely not stripped for backing them out...unless you stripped them both ways. Make sure the drill is set to the lowest setting (most torque) and that the driver is seated perfectly, then lean on her and back it out.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 10:54 AM (OhOyF)

603 478 If I can criticize Trump, I think he should have been more deft with the rollout. ..... I was labeled in the NeverTrump crowd but I've got no problem with the rollout. 325,000 people came into the US on Saturday. 109 were delayed and checked. By itself, that is a magnificent success for anything or that size. For a government program... compare it to how many billion and how many months spent on the Obamacare site? How long does it take to get through the average TSA line and how many people are delayed or miss flights as a result? People bitching: Fuck you. TSA has been increasingly strip searching people and giving out free proctology exams to every 3 year old and grandma born in the US on their way to visit family the next state over for over a decade. 109 people coming into the country from Libya, etc. can afford to be delayed for a bit. For good measure, I don't care what their religion is. I care that they are trying to enter the US from places that even Obama and Hillary agreed we should be giving the hairy eyeball to.

Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 10:54 AM (71OEY)

604 Putting up shelves. Anybody advise Ace to use a level? Oops, too late. Posted by: wth -------------- You are assuming that the framers and trim carpenters were competent, and that the house hasn't racked/settled. As a rule (my own) I make sure that things are aligned with any nearby straight lines which provide visual references/cues.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 10:54 AM (NBHj5)

605 so next question: How do I pull out a stripped screw? Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:52 PM (8rNrN) Pliers, assuming there's enough sticking out to grab on to. Otherwise you're going to have to buy a drill bit smaller than the screw and drill out the screw.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 30, 2017 10:54 AM (8hICw)

606 Posted by: JackStraw at January 30, 2017 03:48 PM (/tuJf) We just lit our burn pile and it was too wet underneath from the rain. The fire dept came and we had to put it out because there was too much smoke. 10,000 gallons and five hours and it was out. Half of the pile burned. I could see the smoke from 15 miles away. This was last week.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 30, 2017 10:54 AM (8cEQL)

607 567 My brother took all my Dad's power tools when he died. And now we're not on speaking terms. Sigh. Posted by: josephistan at January 30, 2017 03:51 PM (7HtZB) Yeah, that sucks. If rapprochement is impractical, maybe a break-in.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:54 AM (UBQ2A)

608 Righty Tighty. Gah.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at January 30, 2017 10:55 AM (EZWNE)

609 here ya go, ace: http://lifehacker.com/5901738/how-to-remove-screws-with-stripped-heads

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 10:55 AM (CRotO)

610 568 #506 On Harbor Freight. My experience has been that its a total mixed bag. Some of their tools are just junk. Some are simply low end, but perfectly fine for that one time job, or limited use. Some are good. And some are just an amazing bargain, in terms of bang/buck. Posted by: looking closely at January 30, 2017 03:51 PM (0hzM1) Yeah... I don't really buy any tools from there unless its something I really only need once or twice. but I've had good luck with other stuff. All of my screw organizers in my shop came from harbor freight, and I love them.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 30, 2017 10:55 AM (wmaTe)

611 Sen. Murphy (D Conn) thinks the combination of no 2nd A and lots of Muzzies will make America safe.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 10:55 AM (0AwCy)

612 Now that Craftsman has been sold off, will they keep any quality? I have 40 year old tools that work like new.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 30, 2017 10:55 AM (6Ll1u)

613 Don't tell me - you bought Black & Decker tools.

Posted by: West at January 30, 2017 10:55 AM (1Rgee)

614 Oh, and I do wonder if he expected some lefty judge to block his temporary ban.... It gives him ammunition to now argue for his SC and other appointments doesn't it? Something like; "The American people elected me to fix the open borders and lawlessness we've seen when it comes to immigration. And as soon as I implement the most minor restrictions on the most dangerous people coming here, the government says the people have no say in this. Well, I'm here to tell you that my nominee for the Supreme Court Judge Pryor [or whoever] and I are here to fix that."

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2017 10:55 AM (aZq03)

615 so next question: How do I pull out a stripped screw? Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:52 PM (8rNrN) There are special drill bit kits to do that. They drill the head of the screw and then have another bit that will catch the new drilled head and allow you unscrew it. They cost about 8 or 10 dollars at the box stores.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 30, 2017 10:55 AM (zc3Db)

616 On Harbor Freight. My experience has been that its a total mixed bag. Some of their tools are just junk. Some are simply low end, but perfectly fine for that one time job, or limited use. Some are good. And some are just an amazing bargain, in terms of bang/buck. Posted by: looking closely _______ For homeowners, it's usually good enough. The quality has gone up quite a bit over the years. You can get a wide range of tools for very little money. I would skip though most of their power tools and anything battery powered.

Posted by: Maritime at January 30, 2017 10:56 AM (lzxL6)

617 My husband has all my late dad's old power tools and tool boxes.

One of the tool boxes has this sticker on it:

"Live long enough to be a problem to your children."

Sadly, he didn't.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 10:56 AM (PY9jH)

618 Pneumatic guns suck dick. I've built a lot of houses. Only thing those help with is fucking shit up in a hurry.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 10:56 AM (OhOyF)

619 It may be time to differentiate between 'drill', and 'drill motor'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 10:56 AM (NBHj5)

620 Should we even broach the topic of Levels and Squares with Ace?
-garrett, who knows what "Hillbilly Pythagoras" adds up to

I had a yuppie boss, who was "building" (paying the mortgage and Home Warranty for) a New Luxury Home. He was particularly man-pressed by his builder bringing in an Amish crew to do the kitchen cabinets.

So first night, Amishman is holding his level up to the mounting lintels, making tiny screw adjustments. "Oh," Mr Wannabe says, "Checking your level to make sure it's spot-on, huh?"

Amishman gives him that look, the one you use for retarded children in management. "No. I'm setting my level to how far off your house is. The cabinets have to match that."

Sudden new-found respect for that 8th grade education they all get...

Posted by: Stringer Davis[/i][/b] at January 30, 2017 10:56 AM (H5rtT)

621 Oh, he's a licensed electrician. But a bit lazy, considering that I'D never trust someone else to turn off the power.

Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 03:52 PM (xeeHA)


Sorry, just being silly.  I had to replace an GFCI outlet in the guest bathroom.  I must have run between there and the circuit board a dozen times to ensure that I had properly shut off the correct breaker switch.  Electricity scares the hell out of me, but I have done the outlet and I changed out the elements in my water heater.  

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at January 30, 2017 10:56 AM (7N6ox)

622 Carl hated Harbor Freight.

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 10:56 AM (CRotO)

623 Ace, trying to put up shelves with a drilldo.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 30, 2017 10:56 AM (oVJmc)

624 Heh....I picture scarred, crooked shelves - the whole room taking on an M.C. Escher sort of look, except the walls have these patches of half-assed spackling to hide the tear-outs from the first three times he put weight on the shelves.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 30, 2017 10:57 AM (v30kf)

625 so next question: How do I pull out a stripped screw?

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:52 PM (8rNrN)



You might get lucky, and with your new drill you may be able to put enough pressure on the screwhead (since you don't have to be holding the shelf up), they may just back out. In fact, if you were able to get them in manually, there's enough "grip" to get them out.... probably.

Posted by: Dirty Randy at January 30, 2017 10:57 AM (jjaLl)

626 Ace is now the "Ace of Shelves."

Posted by: Rick at January 30, 2017 10:57 AM (6GdKh)

627 The suspect in the Quebec City Mosque shooting: The lone suspect in the shooting at the Quebec City mosque Sunday night is believed to be Alexandre Bissonnette, a 27-year-old student at Universite Laval who was studying anthropology before switching to political science.

Posted by: ed gibbon at January 30, 2017 10:57 AM (aA0mt)

628 Here is a way to learn how-to, Ace. Darbin Orvar's YouTube channel. Her name is Linn, she's about 30 and a blonde, lives out in Corvallis, OR, and she builds stuff with tools. No idea why she named her channel Darbin Orvar. If she can do it so can you. Enjoy. Should Linn disappoint, try April Wilkerson's channel. She has over 150 vids online showing you how to do all kinds of DIY projects. There's lots of guys doing this on YouTube, but watching the ladies banging around with saws and drills is more fun.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at January 30, 2017 10:57 AM (U6f54)

629 623 Ace, trying to put up shelves with a drilldo. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 30, 2017 03:56 PM (oVJmc) Charlie Brown's?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:57 AM (UBQ2A)

630 Oh, and I do wonder if he expected some lefty judge to block his temporary ban.... It gives him ammunition to now argue for his SC and other appointments doesn't it? It's almost as if he knows what he's doing.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at January 30, 2017 10:57 AM (MZVOx)

631 343 I feel very, very stupid. But you guys were right-- the drill actually had a different mechanism for toggling in/out. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:25 PM (8rNrN) Relax, it's not like you banned yourself from your own blog or anything.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 30, 2017 10:58 AM (tu3iY)

632 Local ABC news (Philadelphia) crying over a Muzzies ban and will make things worse. Cry me a river

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 10:58 AM (0AwCy)

633 *taps chin and ponders*

Do I really want to watch something on YouTube by a channel called BuzzFeedBlue titled "The Truth Behind Japanese Maid Cafes." Do I?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 10:58 AM (p77iU)

634 Here's hoping that Obama has taken up smoking again now that he's an ex-President." ___ Oh he has been smoking certain things all right....

Posted by: Reggie Love at January 30, 2017 10:58 AM (aZq03)

635 627 who was studying anthropology before switching to political science. Posted by: ed gibbon at January 30, 2017 03:57 PM (aA0mt) Isn't this really the story of the NSDAP?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:58 AM (UBQ2A)

636 How do you find good contractors in NYC, New Yorkers? Home Advisor was useless. Poor sis is still trying to find a good plumber and roofer in her area. Past ones used were crap.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2017 10:58 AM (hvf9s)

637 *Har* Google with the honoring of Fred Koramatsu for his opposition to Japanese internments during WWII...and it, also, just happens to be Democrat, FDR's birthday...who didn't make the cut, but put Japanese Americans in camps. What a dilemma....what a progressive dilemma. Well, let's go with the criminal who had to be pardoned by the state of California....it's got something to do with Trump...I'm sure of it.

Posted by: Orson at January 30, 2017 10:58 AM (z9qjR)

638 Sen. Murphy (D Conn) thinks the combination of no 2nd A and lots of Muzzies will make America safe. Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 03:55 PM (0AwCy) The logic is flawless...for a complete idiot

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 30, 2017 10:58 AM (493sH)

639 Only thing those help with is fucking shit up in a hurry. In many ways, isn't this the story of Barack Obama?

Posted by: never gets old at January 30, 2017 10:58 AM (+INtM)

640 Grabit 2 piece stripped screw extractor bit set $13 at Lowe's.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 30, 2017 10:58 AM (zc3Db)

641 >>Sudden new-found respect for that 8th grade education they all get... Dad was a builder. I had my first ragestroke in 5th Grade Math.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 10:58 AM (OhOyF)

642 so next question: How do I pull out a stripped screw? depends on what/where/aesthetics/criticality. If you're screwing into wood and it's not going to be visible or aesthetically important, you cut it off flush and put in another (better) one next to it. I use Spax torx-drive for everything that really matters. If it matters aesthetically, maybe you take the whole thing apart gently, pulling the screw out through the existing hole, twist it out with vise-grips, then reassemble. Not a Japanese furniture-grade repair, but good enough. If you're screwing into a threaded hole in metal, you curse. Then you start figuring out how to either (a) get vise-grips onto the stub, possibly involving removing the part you're attaching first (b) plug-welding a nut onto the stub, soaking the whole thing in penetrating oil for three days, then gently wiggling it out, or (c) knocking it flush with the hole and drilling it out (no cheap drill bits, buy Norseman drill bits, US-made and worth every fucking penny.)

Posted by: JEM at January 30, 2017 10:59 AM (TppKb)

643 325,000 people came into the US on Saturday. 109 were delayed and checked.

By itself, that is a magnificent success for anything or that size. For a government program... compare it to how many billion and how many months spent on the Obamacare site?

===

That's an excellent point.

The wailing and gnashing over being inconvenienced for a few hours is ridiculous. These people stand in longer lines for cigarettes and chocolate back in the Motherland.

Very telling that battalions of ambulance-chasers have already set up "Legal Aid" stations through the aiports.


Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! [/i][/b] at January 30, 2017 10:59 AM (Gv7El)

644 636 How do you find good contractors in NYC, New Yorkers? Home Advisor was useless. Poor sis is still trying to find a good plumber and roofer in her area. Past ones used were crap. Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2017 03:58 PM (hvf9s) Might be able to track some down.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 10:59 AM (UBQ2A)

645 >I really think that Trump either has a plan or is formulating a plan for traitor Senators that goes beyond Tweet-spanking them publicly.

Please let this be so:
Which of these quislings have taken dawa money from Islamic terror front groups, for example

Posted by: Grad School Fool at January 30, 2017 10:59 AM (swEzU)

646 Well, for what it's worth, Quebec authorities are now calling the sole suspect in the Mosque shooting a..'lone wolf."
But they have declined to suggest a motive.

Quebec has been the only province to fight Islamization out of their sense of French nationalism (and not Catholicism---they're completely secularized) so shitting on this guy as an Islamophobe won't go down well with local voters.

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at January 30, 2017 10:59 AM (nlbfN)

647 I've thrown the breakers at a department store to work on a fixture, and put tape across them, and still had a manager remove the tape and throw the power back on. That's why there's a padlock hole on the big breaker boxes.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 10:59 AM (QQ+il)

648 (WHHOOOOOOOOMMMMMMPPPPPPPH1!!!!!!!)
No, it wasn't me; I was the one having hysterics while rapidly hooking up the hose reel. Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max
---
I know people type "LOL" all the time and don't mean it.

I really LOL'd.

Posted by: Biergood at January 30, 2017 10:59 AM (v8Lx/)

649 625 so next question: How do I pull out a stripped screw? Vice grips if you can get a bite on the screw head. Will be a great forearm workout. You win twice!!!

Posted by: firecaptainTX at January 30, 2017 10:59 AM (dhxso)

650 Stripped screw? There is no problem, personal or professional, which cannot be resolved by a proper application of explosives.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 10:59 AM (NBHj5)

651 If the scre is stripped but partially sticking out get a pair of vice grips or plyers and spin it out.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 11:00 AM (0AwCy)

652 Tampa, FL has the highest number of lightning strikes in the nation, if memory serves. 

My uncle was caught on a golf course during a storm, and had to flatten himself on the ground well away from his clubs.  Said lightning was hitting all around him.

Someone should encourage Sir Golfsalot to hit the links there during the summer.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 11:00 AM (PY9jH)

653 647 I've thrown the breakers at a department store to work on a fixture, and put tape across them, and still had a manager remove the tape and throw the power back on. That's why there's a padlock hole on the big breaker boxes. Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 03:59 PM (QQ+il) No one should be messing with the LOTO protocol. What's that smell? Aye, that's a lawsuit brewing!

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 30, 2017 11:00 AM (8hICw)

654 @572 His plan is to use the bully pulpit and get the public on board. The public wants extreme vetting,tighter boarder security and immigration reform that makes American interests the centerpiece. Fuck these assclowns and their "This is not who we are!." bullshit. Americans will decide who we are not some assclown stateists wedded to some airy fairy suicidal globalism, multiculturalism and one worldism. In 1965 our immigration laws were changed to effectively insure the white population would become the minority. Without so much as letting the white population in on the plan. Trump is our last best hope of retaining our country, he knows that and Bannon certainly knows that so that's why we have the tempo of activity we currently are experiencing.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 30, 2017 11:00 AM (3Xxpy)

655 Sen. Murphy (D Conn) thinks the combination of no 2nd A and lots of Muzzies will make America safe. *** Well, it would make Americastan very safe wouldn't it? I mean Hussein's Iraq was much "safer" when no one outside of his military and secret police were armed...right?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2017 11:00 AM (aZq03)

656 Carl hated Harbor Freight. Posted by: SMFH He wasn't alone.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at January 30, 2017 11:00 AM (MZVOx)

657 Ace in the Conservatory with a Drill.

Posted by: Col. Mustard at January 30, 2017 11:00 AM (oVJmc)

658 574 I'm still wrapping my head around an Ikea drill. Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 03:51 PM (CRotO) That's where you all get out of the car at a red light and run around it three times eating meatballs.

Posted by: West at January 30, 2017 11:01 AM (1Rgee)

659 Cheap but physically weighty 6' wobbly fiberglass ladders and those rickety folding kitchen step things kill. The best indoor-use DIY job ladder is a Warner type3 aluminum 4 foot double-strapped blue top. It's super lightweight but sturdy as heck. I've never wore one out. Have vaulted / coffered ceilings? Same type3 ladder but an eight-footer.

Posted by: 13times at January 30, 2017 11:01 AM (WHVu+)

660 https://tinyurl.com/hju5d2y ---------------------------------- Senate Dems say they will filibuster Trumps SCOTUS nominee no matter who it is Don't sing it, Bring it ! Schmuck

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 30, 2017 11:01 AM (y3aQB)

661 1952 Immigration and Natualization Act bitches...

Posted by: Harry S Truman at January 30, 2017 11:01 AM (DpOmP)

662 "My wife never saw an existing ceiling fan or light fixture she didn`t hate." It's especially fun when a DIY homeowner removes a light fixture and mounts some honking big Hampton Bay ceiling fan to the box thus revealed, without stopping to think that, hey, that box probably isn't rated to hold up the weight of anything heavier than the original light fixture. Then as the fan runs and the whole off-balance, insufficiently supported shebang slowly assumes an eccentric orbit where the drywall surrounding it is getting abraded away by the motion of the fan body, the fan blades thoughtfully redistribute the drywall dust all over the place. Before it all comes crashing down on the bed like Kato sneaking up on Inspector Clouseau.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 30, 2017 11:02 AM (noWW6)

663 of course, replacing these screws is going to be a bitch because I almost certainly stripped them on the way in.... so next question: How do I pull out a stripped screw? Posted by: ace They also make left handed drill bits, so the bit goes into the screw to grab it as it's removing it counterclockwise.

Posted by: Maritime at January 30, 2017 11:02 AM (lzxL6)

664 So I am being informed that not 1 of the 7 counties being banned have caused a injury in the US. And the ACLU is raking in cash by the millions.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 11:02 AM (0AwCy)

665 #581
Oi . . .
Depends how badly its stripped.

Sometimes the stripping is one way, so you can still back it out manually by hand with a conventional screwdriver.

If not completely bowled out you may be able to drill a little bit into the head then get a Phillips to "bite" once you've deepened the opening a bi.  I've had luck with that before.

If the head is proud you can try grabbing it with a pair of pliers.   If a teeny bit proud you can cut a notch into it with a hacksaw blade and then use a flat bladed screwdriver to back it out.   And there are other tricks:

Already mentioned upthread is the "easy out" reverse threaded drill bit.  And here are a few more suggestions:

http://tinyurl.com/3g4rnzu

Posted by: looking closely at January 30, 2017 11:02 AM (0hzM1)

666 so next question: How do I pull out a stripped screw?

Don't if you don't have to.
Get an extractor (another HD trip).
Vise grips.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 30, 2017 11:02 AM (8J/Te)

667 who was studying anthropology before switching to political science. Posted by: ed gibbon ----------- They are indistinguishable from one another today.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 11:02 AM (NBHj5)

668 Ace will go down as one of the worst Shelf Installers of all time, SAD!

Posted by: Mo Cheese at January 30, 2017 11:02 AM (+owAc)

669 A few months ago, I re-did the cats scratching post, which became an Ordeal.
Which is a theme in my life lately.

My Black and Decker drill was useless and I ended up doing the same thing, except wtih 2" screws. It was effing endless and horrible because the drill kept dying.  I turned into Scarlett O'Hara screaming "as God as my witness, I will only used corded drills from now on."

About a week or so ago, I decided to install a light in my drop ceiling (part one of the Drop Ceiling Saga I told yesterday on the ONT). I let the drill charge overnight and voila!

No problem. Drilled into wood ceiling beams without an issue.

Moral: make sure the drill is adequately charged, and then charge a few hours more.

Also, if you really want to go all in with tools, I know a lot of people who like Dewalt, however, they are on the heavy side but I believe they have a lot of torque.

/is torque the right word?

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 30, 2017 11:02 AM (J5mC3)

670 662 "My wife never saw an existing ceiling fan or light fixture she didn`t hate." It's especially fun when a DIY homeowner removes a light fixture and mounts some honking big Hampton Bay ceiling fan to the box thus revealed, without stopping to think that, hey, that box probably isn't rated to hold up the weight of anything heavier than the original light fixture. Then as the fan runs and the whole off-balance, insufficiently supported shebang slowly assumes an eccentric orbit where the drywall surrounding it is getting abraded away by the motion of the fan body, the fan blades thoughtfully redistribute the drywall dust all over the place. Before it all comes crashing down on the bed like Kato sneaking up on Inspector Clouseau. Posted by: torquewrench at January 30, 2017 04:02 PM (noWW6) "How was I supposed to know it wouldn't stay up?" ~ DIY homeowner

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 30, 2017 11:02 AM (8hICw)

671 KOA Denver carries Rush, and following Rush has a local host doing similar themes each weekday. Mandy Connell is her name, and she leads off today by reading Trump's order about curtailing refugee flow. She reads it all, and says how totally right it is, and how CNN and all the others could not have possibly read it. They don't want to read it. They just want to cry out MUSLIM BAN!!! Just like Schumer and the dems don't want to know who Trump puts up for SCOTUS. Doesn't matter. WE OPPOSE!!

Posted by: the littl shyning man at January 30, 2017 11:03 AM (U6f54)

672 Seriously, Ace, if you're worried about stripped screws, first try gently backing them out with a plain old manual screwdriver. If you can't turn them manually, you're much more likely to get into trouble with a drill/driver.

That way, you don't just strip them in the opposite direction right off the bat.

If that doesn't work, just set them on fire. /I'M KIDDING!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 30, 2017 11:03 AM (nd1zx)

673 I want an update from the Moron who was picking up a gal at the funeral home.

Some of us are burning to know.  Some literally.

Seawolf

Did you ever update us? Did we miss it?

STORY TIME!
Background: An extraordinarily sweet and nice elderly church friend works with this girl.  They work at a funeral parlor.  I had been sick for a very good long while but was finally back to normal and able to do normal things again.  Nice amazing church lady comes to me one day saying she knows this really sweet girl and that the two of us should go on a date.

I say, yeah sounds good why not.  Get funeral girl's number.  Then I have the greatest idea ever, I ask the horde about how to proceed with contacting funeral girl who I have never seen or heard from before.

The general consensus was 1.) Don't call her, you have no idea if funeral girl even gave permission for her number to be given out. 2.) It is highly likely you will come off as a creep no matter what, but most definitely make sure the mutual friend brings you both together at a location and 3.) Absolutely go through with it no matter how hilariously horrible it turns out and bring back the stories.

(Ok maybe I'm paraphrasing a bit there.)

So I take the horde's advice, text funeral girl and have church friend set up a place and time for the three of us to meet.  Day arrives, church friend and me are there, funeral girl bails.  No big loss.  HOWEVER, while at this little coffee shop I get to talking with one of the girls who works there and bam, get her number and set up a date.

So cool, all is well.

Before first date with coffee girl happens, funeral girl texts me back.  I'm so sorry etc etc.  She still wants to meet.  Ok, I have no problem with that.  End up going on two dates.

Both go very well.

Now what?

Seeing as they were just first dates (and granted I had been out of life for some time) I figured hey, what's the harm in going on two second dates.  Besides, odds are one or both end up going south.

Yeah that didn't happen.

Third date time.  Take coffee girl to an off broadway play in nyc that was a lot of fun.  I mention this only because I ended up going back to said play with some cousins for a night out.  While there the lot of us cousins end up chatting with one of the actors and actresses.

Guess whose number I get?  (Hint:  It wasn't the actor.)  And no, I wasn't trying, promise.

So I'm like, yeah, this is getting a bit retarded.  Never have been nor will be someone who keeps up multiple relationships or attempts at relationships.

Actress girl dates one and two go very very well.  Even better than funeral and coffee girl.  Decision time.

Long story short (because this is an essay already) still talk to and just friends with funeral girl, no longer talk to coffee girl and going out again tonight with actress girl.

It has been interesting to say the least.  If actress girl works out I'm going to get her to join the horde.

(Apologies for length, now back to your regularly scheduled programming.)
(And before anyone asks, no, me and funeral girl did not make out in a casket.)

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 30, 2017 11:03 AM (WuRdh)

674 526 so seriously how long should the screws in the studs be? Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:47 PM (8rNrN) Depends on the shelf design. When we're talking books, I tend to over engineer, starting with the shelf itself. Can't stand bowing shelves (much less breaking shelves). 1/2 thick at least and supports no more than 3 ft apart. YMMV. Screws? Depends. Are these the big angle bracket jobs that the bracket is as long down the wall as the shelf? Then the screws you have are more than fine. The shelves with rails like they use at stores? Same. If the wall bracket is significantly shorter than the shelf depth, I'd recommend increasing the size of screws and making sure every one of them is in a stud.

Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 11:03 AM (71OEY)

675 Christ was a carpenter.

Not sure if that helps or anything - but there you go. Don't thank me.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at January 30, 2017 11:03 AM (RHEDC)

676 pneumatic nail gun True story, no shit, it really happened. While working in a prefab factory where panels for factory built homes were built. The layout is on a table, and you walk down the panel nailing stuff. Guy, in a rush, shoots himself in the foot. Nail goes through his foot. Goes to Emergency Room. Doctor is very puzzled, and finally asks, "Why didn't you stop hammering?" They tried to explain how a pneumatic nail gun works.

Posted by: Naughtchoes at January 30, 2017 11:03 AM (/5NOC)

677 It's especially fun when a DIY homeowner removes a light fixture and mounts some honking big Hampton Bay ceiling fan to the box thus revealed, without stopping to think that, hey, that box probably isn't rated to hold up the weight of anything heavier than the original light fixture. ... Posted by: torquewrench ----- No way, man! I saw Indiana Jones hang a thugee killer with a bullwhip on a ceiling fan!

Posted by: RKae at January 30, 2017 11:03 AM (EnhfY)

678 Do I really want to watch something on YouTube by a channel called BuzzFeedBlue titled "The Truth Behind Japanese Maid Cafes." Do I? Posted by: Anna Puma Do you want to watch a neckbeard who's been in Tokyo of all of 5 min. expound on his dashed fantasies ?

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at January 30, 2017 11:03 AM (DNPz2)

679 so next question: How do I pull out a stripped screw?
--

Cheap and nasty solution, IF it's not in all the way?

Pliers. And lots of time.

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 30, 2017 11:04 AM (J5mC3)

680 If the head is proud you can try grabbing it with a pair of pliers. ------------- What if is ashamed?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 11:04 AM (NBHj5)

681 668 Ace will go down as one of the worst Shelf Installers of all time, SAD! Posted by: Mo Cheese at January 30, 2017 04:02 PM (+owAc) Just goes to show, you can run a smart military blog for decades, but you screw up one shelf installation...

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 30, 2017 11:04 AM (8hICw)

682 Does one strip before screwing?

Posted by: the littl shyning man at January 30, 2017 11:04 AM (U6f54)

683 Don't you need a bucket of steam and a board bender to remove a stripped screw?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 30, 2017 11:04 AM (2x9LM)

684 I'm a glazier, so first and foremost I work metal. And then we put the glass in last, that's the easy part. Tools make your life easier if they are good, bad tools screw you.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 30, 2017 11:04 AM (6Ll1u)

685 This news broadcast has gone on 5 minutes on the immigration crisis.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 11:04 AM (0AwCy)

686 I've and Advil are your friends

Posted by: Tuna at January 30, 2017 11:04 AM (Phln5)

687 680 If the head is proud you can try grabbing it with a pair of pliers. ------------- What if is ashamed? Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 04:04 PM (NBHj5) Grabbing? Like pussy?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 11:04 AM (UBQ2A)

688 I really like my cordless power tools. Pretty powerful, fast charging...And no freaking cord or extension cord. I highly recommend for casual use. I have had good luck with a few brands. Personally, DeWalt and Milwaukees are overkill for me.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at January 30, 2017 11:04 AM (EZWNE)

689 Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 30, 2017 04:03 PM (WuRdh)

STUD!

Posted by: IC at January 30, 2017 11:05 AM (a0IVu)

690 Oh, my comment above was more regarding what happens when you break the head off. For a stripped screw, if it's sticking out enough to get vise-grips on it, you get some vise-grips on there and gently twist it out. Then the head breaks off and you proceed with my earlier comment. If the thing is too far in to get any kind of tool to grab the head, then you can stick a drill in the stripped-out head, drill the head off, then proceed with my earlier comment. Oh, and if you're talking something metallic, and valuable, there's always EDM.

Posted by: JEM at January 30, 2017 11:05 AM (TppKb)

691 191 This whole post and comments has that distinct "Ace is a really a girl" feel about it. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Well, just imagine if "he" had to do some math in order to install the shelves properly... Just kidding Shelvey.

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at January 30, 2017 11:05 AM (jNamR)

692 686 Ice

Posted by: Tuna at January 30, 2017 11:05 AM (Phln5)

693 What we call a Yankee Push Drill?
The rest of the world calls that a "Persian."
Hmm.

Heavy duty version of the traditional brace-and-bit is a "breast drill."
Do not show off antique toolbox to first dates.

Why yes, I do have an "Abingdon King Dick." Why would you ask? 

Posted by: Stringer Davis[/i][/b] at January 30, 2017 11:05 AM (H5rtT)

694 581 of course, replacing these screws is going to be a bitch because I almost certainly stripped them on the way in.... so next question: How do I pull out a stripped screw? Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:52 PM (8rNrN) Blowtorch.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 30, 2017 11:05 AM (wtvvX)

695 so next question: How do I pull out a stripped screw? Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:52 PM (8rNrN) I first read that as How do I pull out after screwing a stripper?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 30, 2017 11:06 AM (493sH)

696 Posted by: ObjectionSustained --- Nope. Never NEVER going back to rechargeables. Never.

Posted by: RKae at January 30, 2017 11:06 AM (EnhfY)

697
I always wanted a Shelby. 

oh wait...schelvey.  that's different.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 30, 2017 11:06 AM (ODxAs)

698 Bet those 7 counties on the travel ban don't have the GPU of Texas, maybe Alabama.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 11:06 AM (0AwCy)

699 Stripped screw: cheap or old driver bit, tiny dab of JB Weld, insert into stripped recess, tape in place till epoxy has set, slowly and gently turn out the assemblage, discard. Becomes tedious if you have a lot of them to do.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 30, 2017 11:06 AM (noWW6)

700 This: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Starter-Drill-Kit-P1810/205202601

Posted by: Larry Geiger at January 30, 2017 11:06 AM (QpgDv)

701 Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 30, 2017 04:03 PM (WuRdh) ---------- Well, Seawolf, that's quite a story and well worth waiting for. Glad you actually went through with contacting the first girl! Thanks for the update.

Posted by: bluebell at January 30, 2017 11:06 AM (sBOL1)

702 What if is ashamed?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 04:04 PM (NBHj5)

aww screw it

Posted by: MAC-SOG at January 30, 2017 11:06 AM (QPdNE)

703 drills aren't for screws. drivers are for screws. drills are for drilling.

Posted by: ajmojo at January 30, 2017 11:06 AM (1H9ox)

704 So, we can call this place the Shelvey HQ from now on?

Posted by: Hikaru at January 30, 2017 11:06 AM (9TK8E)

705 Aw Hell Ace ... this ain't such a big deal. Check this out ... ... so, over the summer - wife expressed interest rebuilding our deck. We have a walkout basement - so this thing is 9' up in the air. So I planned and shopped for about a month. Dropped a few grand in materials. Took a week off work. Poured concrete for a new stair landing. Cut new stringers. Stripped old decking. Stained structure. Installed composite decking and aluminum railing. Oh no ... I didn't do anything crazy like run my impact driver backward. Who in the hell does that ? No no ... now I've just figured out that I hate that damn woman ... and have built her a monster deck that I'm sure Husband #2 will just fucking love. You're just out four hours time ... so you tell me who's the dumb ass ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 30, 2017 11:06 AM (UZZHo)

706 https://tinyurl.com/h2uqoyj ----------------------------------- Bubbles Boy is again with Senator McLame & Senator BButt Pirate

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 30, 2017 11:06 AM (y3aQB)

707 Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 30, 2017 03:53 PM (nd1zx) Pine in a fireplace is a less than good idea.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Bans, Slams, and Frenzies! Midwinter Sale at the Outrage Outlet! at January 30, 2017 11:07 AM (hLRSq)

708 I watched a sheetrocker do a bump of speed and then screw his thumb to the next metal stud, one day on a job in Newark. He was freaking out and I was laughing and laughing. Dumb fuck dropped the gun...he had nobody to help him but me. Poor bastard.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 11:07 AM (OhOyF)

709 Stripped screws.....Lord, he's using cheap-ass zinc screws, isn't he?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 30, 2017 11:07 AM (v30kf)

710 Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 30, 2017 04:03 PM (WuRdh) Fantastic work, Seawolf! You couldn't have done it without consulting the Braintrust. Someone's got to dig up that thread, it was comical.

Posted by: kallisto at January 30, 2017 11:07 AM (nNdYv)

711 Weft-Cut, yeah that was my impression also. Plus him wearing bunny ears while in a lumberjack shirt. Fairly screamed Metrosexual wimp.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 11:08 AM (p77iU)

712 Primordial seems no one wants to listen to us. That extracting bit should be in everybody's tool box.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2017 11:08 AM (Z4z/q)

713 Ace, are you going to get your security deposit back after making improvements to your apartment?

Posted by: Inquiring Minds at January 30, 2017 11:08 AM (vI+F1)

714 If one strips while screwing, is it time to bring in an extractor? Does that make it a threesome? How deep in the stud do we bury this? I'm liking this DIY stuff.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at January 30, 2017 11:08 AM (U6f54)

715 Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 30, 2017 04:03 PM (WuRdh) Seawolf is a STUD!

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 30, 2017 11:08 AM (Om16U)

716 Stripped screws.....Lord, he's using cheap-ass zinc screws, isn't he? Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine ------------- Probably made from melted-down money.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 11:08 AM (NBHj5)

717 "Oh, and if you're talking something metallic, and valuable, there's always EDM." It better be damn valuable. My local machine shop refers to these jobs as Extra Dispatch of Money. They're quite aware that if you're left with using EDM to remove a broken bolt, you're in a serious corner, and they charge accordingly with your degree of desperation.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 30, 2017 11:08 AM (noWW6)

718 Shelvey, thanks for the laugh. I'm sorry you had such shitty tools. Look on the bright side - Hillary Clinton will never be president.

Posted by: iwuzhere at January 30, 2017 11:08 AM (GRNzr)

719 Pull a broken screw with a claw hammer or cats paw. fulcrum with something solid.

Posted by: 13times at January 30, 2017 11:09 AM (WHVu+)

720 ace this is my kitchen drawer kit. http://www.homedepot.com/ p/Ryobi-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Super-Combo-Kit-4-Piece-P883 /203466914 and of course if it Fits Trumps narrative it gets tossed down in a pit to never be seen again. If it looks anything they can shove into a conservative narrative they will MAKE it fit. so down the terrorist attack goes. how nice.

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:09 AM (R7cwD)

721 Looks again, why did I think lumberjack shirt. When he is actually wearing something a lighter color than baby blue. Almost RLM76, geez what a scrawny specimen... 

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 11:09 AM (p77iU)

722 re; stripped screws

IMHO phillips head screws suck bigtime and fcuk all those different sized star heads too. You can put some serious torque into a square drive screw and rarely strip it out if you lean into it.

Posted by: dartist at January 30, 2017 11:09 AM (n8oxI)

723 700 Stripped screw: cheap or old driver bit, tiny dab of JB Weld, insert into stripped recess, tape in place till epoxy has set, slowly and gently turn out the assemblage, discard. Becomes tedious if you have a lot of them to do. Posted by: torquewrench at January 30, 2017 04:06 PM (noWW6) Or Dremel and small cutoff wheel, cut two new slots in the old screwhead ...

Posted by: Jay Guevara, still deplorable at January 30, 2017 11:09 AM (V/hki)

724 Fantastic work, Seawolf! You couldn't have done it without consulting the Braintrust. Someone's got to dig up that thread, it was comical. Posted by: kallisto at January 30, 2017 04:07 PM (nNdYv) ----------- It truly was. I think it was one of the art threads. I remember laughing my head off and trying not to cry.

Posted by: bluebell at January 30, 2017 11:09 AM (sBOL1)

725 Could just be that the drill bit was dull as hell.

Posted by: Deplorable Old Blue [/b][/i] [/s][/u] at January 30, 2017 11:09 AM (9iR5/)

726
I know Ace worked hard there, but I was trying to find a whole set of Forstner bits that I needed today and couldn't.  Really pissed me off, because I always put them in the same place, except I guess I didn't.  Man that was exhausting.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 30, 2017 11:10 AM (ODxAs)

727 The parents of Trayvon Martin, the black Florida teen who was killed by a neighborhood watch volunteer in 2012 that helped inspire the Black Lives Matter movement, are mulling a run for political office - and are setting their sights as far as the White House. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 30, 2017 11:10 AM (2x9LM)

728 >>Pull a broken screw with a claw hammer or cats paw. Who needs those studas, anyway? Structural integrity is way overrated.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 11:10 AM (OhOyF)

729 When things go wrong: http://tinyurl.com/jrmez8b

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 11:10 AM (CRotO)

730 Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 30, 2017 04:03 PM (WuRdh) #winning

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 30, 2017 11:10 AM (KUaJL)

731 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 03:59 PM (UBQ2A) That would be amazing.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2017 11:10 AM (hvf9s)

732 Pffft! You people with your screws and anchors and what-not!

I'm tellin' ya, double-stick foam tape! I use it for EVERYTHING!

Posted by: Guy Buried Under The Pile Of Books at January 30, 2017 11:10 AM (nd1zx)

733 712 Weft-Cut, yeah that was my impression also. Plus him wearing bunny ears while in a lumberjack shirt. Fairly screamed Metrosexual wimp. Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2017 04:08 PM (p77iU) And nobody punched him in the dick? Qu'el choc.

Posted by: Hikaru at January 30, 2017 11:10 AM (9TK8E)

734 Next we could work on the best type of screw to use.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 11:10 AM (0AwCy)

735 Primordial seems no one wants to listen to us. That extracting bit should be in everybody's tool box. Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth -------- I have a selection of Easy-Outs for dealing with broken studs & etc., AND left-twist bits for pilot holes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 11:10 AM (NBHj5)

736 Awesome, Seawolf. Thanks for sharing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 11:11 AM (BjrOM)

737 IMHO phillips head screws suck bigtime and fcuk all those different sized star heads too. You can put some serious torque into a square drive screw and rarely strip it out if you lean into it. Posted by: dartist Torx uber alles.

Posted by: weft cut-Torx[/i] [/b] at January 30, 2017 11:11 AM (DNPz2)

738 It truly was. I think it was one of the art threads. I remember laughing my head off and trying not to cry. Posted by: bluebell at January 30, 2017 04:09 PM (sBOL1) We gave him The Power. And now, look at our boy - chatting up NYC actresses and sh!t.

Posted by: kallisto at January 30, 2017 11:11 AM (nNdYv)

739 580 526 so seriously how long should the screws in the studs be? Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:47 PM (8rNrN) can you please rephrase the question? If you mean how long should screws be to hold up a book shelf (assuming you are screwing in to wood studs), the answer is long enough to get a good bite of the stud. 1 1/2 or 1 3/4 screws are usually pretty sufficient for most stuff I do. I guess it depends on what screws you're using and how much weight will be on them. I go with #8 screws. I like 2 inches in the stud itself, so add to that the thickness of the wall covering (I have lathe and plaster that is 7/8" thick) and the thickness of the shelf bracket. Drill a pilot hole. A screw can split the stud and lower the holding power. If your shelf bows down between supports after you load it with books, add a support.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 30, 2017 11:11 AM (di1hb)

740 alos having the correct bitips helps with screws and also screw slow on delicate projects. no hammer drilling

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:11 AM (R7cwD)

741 so next question: How do I pull out a stripped screw? Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:52 PM (8rNrN) Leave it there for the next tenant to deal with.

Posted by: West at January 30, 2017 11:12 AM (1Rgee)

742 I know Ace worked hard there, but I was trying to find a whole set of Forstner bits that I needed today and couldn't. Really pissed me off, because I always put them in the same place, except I guess I didn't. Man that was exhausting. Posted by: Guy Mohawk ----------- A yuuuge pisser, to know you have the correct tool, and you can't find the damn thing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 11:12 AM (NBHj5)

743 So you spent the whole day screwing? We can call you "Screwy" then. Seriously, is this not already posted upthread?

Posted by: Colossus of Ben Rhodes at January 30, 2017 11:12 AM (VFhMt)

744 Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 30, 2017 04:03 PM (WuRdh) Date them all. They are dating other people so why not you? Hell drop hints or even tell them you are seeing other people, makes them compete with each other, and makes you more desirable in their eyes. Never settle too early. Hell never settle.

Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 30, 2017 11:12 AM (j8aRL)

745 >>and also screw slow on delicate projects. no hammer drilling Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 04:11 PM (R7cwD) Damn, Willow is a national fucking Treasure.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 11:12 AM (OhOyF)

746 Good tips on stripped screw here:

http://tinyurl.com/67g4un

Posted by: looking closely at January 30, 2017 11:13 AM (0hzM1)

747 >> also screw slow on delicate projects. no hammer drilling

Posted by: 3rd Date Fortune Cookie at January 30, 2017 11:14 AM (OhOyF)

748 the thickness of the board material (shelving back and at through the drywall 1/2 probably and half way into studs so 1/2 plus 1 in plus. shelving backing=?

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:14 AM (R7cwD)

749 If Trump builds the wall and stops the flow of illegal immigration who will hang all of our shelves for us?

Posted by: ajmojo at January 30, 2017 11:14 AM (1H9ox)

750 If you were not feeling bad enough about your shelves, Ace, Insty just linked this story: " Using nothing but YouTube tutorials, woman built house from the ground up."

Posted by: West at January 30, 2017 11:14 AM (1Rgee)

751 A yuuuge pisser, to know you have the correct tool, fastener wire blade hanger etc. etc. and you can't find the damn thing. Posted by: Mike Hammer

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 11:14 AM (NBHj5)

752 OT: Exclusive: Casino Mogul Steve Wynn to Be RNC Finance Chair
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I know some people that have done work for him. He's supposed to be a lovely man. BTW, not sure if many know this, but he is legally blind.

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 30, 2017 11:15 AM (J5mC3)

753 So, now there is a movement afoot locally for a group of restaurants to declare themselves 'safe zones" for immigrants. Sanctuary restaurants, if you will. I think this is fascinating. Please keep talking to reporters and describing how you are going to make all your employees know that they are safe working for you. Does this mean that if Abdul shows up with three social security cards, you will simply close your eyes and tell him to pick one? Wouldn't the Department of Labor be interested in this, along with ICE?k Also, remember to promote this to the public. Because nothing is better for a restaurant than to declare that you don't follow federal or state guidelines. Because you love your employees more than your customers and your neighbors.

Posted by: Jen at January 30, 2017 11:15 AM (z0fov)

754 A thread completely about screwing. Probably not an HQ first.

Posted by: filbert at January 30, 2017 11:15 AM (s5o+q)

755
I really want some of those new Dewalt flexvolt tools.  60V batteries for the win!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 30, 2017 11:15 AM (ODxAs)

756 Primordial seems no one wants to listen to us. That extracting bit should be in everybody's tool box. Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2017 04:08 PM (Z4z/q) Well ... we tried.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 30, 2017 11:16 AM (zc3Db)

757 So according to TGP, the 2nd suspect (Mohammed) has been released and the only arrest is the white guy they are saying is a Trump supporter. I hope they are wrong, cuz this is the last thing we needed right now...

Posted by: I smell something Rotten at January 30, 2017 11:16 AM (ctO3Z)

758 I know plenty of people that make their living fixing home owners projects, the stories are always hilarious.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 30, 2017 11:16 AM (6Ll1u)

759 hammer in or bend old screw, reset for new screw? unless we are talking about the shelving itself which means you Have to get that screw out because cosmetics. so pliers and a little crying. rotate opposite of inserting screw.

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:16 AM (R7cwD)

760 Now I have Seawolf and old "Stuck On Stupid" all confused. In my mind.
Because REAL WORLD SUCCESS and HAPPY ENDINGS do not belong on a Smart Military Blog dammit. Now Morons coast to coast are making the hard choice: gas pipe, razor blade, or battery-powered drill in the toilet...

Posted by: Stringer Davis[/i][/b] at January 30, 2017 11:16 AM (H5rtT)

761 A thread completely about screwing... - I want to say that is redundant...but it isn't.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 11:16 AM (NBHj5)

762 or lefty loosey

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:16 AM (R7cwD)

763 I would go thickness of drywall then add 1 1/2 inch.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 11:16 AM (0AwCy)

764 Mrs Diogenes just read Seawolf. I got "the look." Am going out to garage to tinker with my tools. Its January...in Seattle... Seawolf you Magnificent Bastard!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at January 30, 2017 11:16 AM (0tfLf)

765 I can't believe nobody has recommended that Ace use the ever popular Shelfie Stick™ drill extension piece.

Posted by: [/b][/i][/s]Muldoon at January 30, 2017 11:17 AM (wPiJc)

766 A yuuuge pisser, to know you have the correct tool, and you can't find the damn thing. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 04:12 PM (NBHj5) happened to me the other day when a flathead screw driver. For the life of me, I couldn't find one. Which is... absurd. I must own 10 of them. Had to use my leatherman to change out thermostats. Kind of a bitch. Still no idea where my screw drivers are though, and the girlfriend won't fess up to using them.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 30, 2017 11:17 AM (wmaTe)

767 the only arrest is the white guy they are saying is a Trump supporter I thought he was Canadian?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 11:17 AM (QQ+il)

768 Also, remember to promote this to the public. Because nothing is better for a restaurant than to declare that you don't follow federal or state guidelines. Because you love your employees more than your customers and your neighbors. Posted by: Jen at January 30, 2017 04:15 PM (z0fov) Now that they've self-identified, how are they going to stop ICE from dropping by and grabbing people? Sorry, sir, you can't come in here - this is a sanctuary restaurant.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 30, 2017 11:17 AM (8hICw)

769 752 Well,that was ace's problem.He didn't watch a tutorial on Youtube.

Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2017 11:17 AM (r/0kC)

770 Do it, Donald.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2017 03:08 PM (PY9jH)


Did the TFG say something stupid and inflammatory?


I'm sorry, I was redundant.


Did the TFG say something?



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 30, 2017 11:18 AM (8iiMU)

771 759 So according to TGP, the 2nd suspect (Mohammed) has been released and the only arrest is the white guy they are saying is a Trump supporter. I hope they are wrong, cuz this is the last thing we needed right now... Posted by: I smell something Rotten at January 30, 2017 04:16 PM (ctO3Z) Bah. I'm gonna go with the time honored tactic of "Suuure"

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 30, 2017 11:18 AM (Om16U)

772 I'm on a mission to find that Seawolf art thread where we gave him all the helpful hints. Hopefully will be back soon.

Posted by: bluebell at January 30, 2017 11:18 AM (sBOL1)

773 738 Awesome, Seawolf.

Thanks for sharing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 04:11 PM (BjrOM)

Welcome, apologies for the delay.

- - - -

Date them all. They are dating other people so why not you?
Hell drop hints or even tell them you are seeing other people, makes them compete with each other, and makes you more desirable in their eyes.

Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 30, 2017 04:12 PM (j8aRL)

The thoughts crossed my mind, but I haven't quite come to grips with that yet.  I'd much rather find something long term and real and ditch the whole dating scene.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 30, 2017 11:18 AM (WuRdh)

774 IMHO phillips head screws suck bigtime and fcuk all those different sized star heads too. You can put some serious torque into a square drive screw and rarely strip it out if you lean into it. Same with bolt heads. Less number of sides = less chance to strip it. Six sided sockets vs. twelve sided sockets. Square head screws ftw!

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at January 30, 2017 11:18 AM (MZVOx)

775 624 Heh....I picture scarred, crooked shelves - the whole room taking on an M.C. Escher sort of look, except the walls have these patches of half-assed spackling to hide the tear-outs from the first three times he put weight on the shelves. Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 30, 2017 03:57 PM (v30kf) Can't. Stop. Laughing.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at January 30, 2017 11:18 AM (nQ10o)

776 I will say that YouTube is the greated how-to learning media ever invented. And not just the people doing it right, but even more the people fucking up the job.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 11:18 AM (QQ+il)

777 re: getting out stripped screws. smash 'em back and forth sideways with a hammer until they break. then use a hammer and punch to push them in, and use some joint compound to hide the hole. Much easier then fiddle fucking around with it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 30, 2017 11:18 AM (wmaTe)

778 Being a NY resident, got an email from Cuomo, we are going to fight Trump in the air, on the beaches, everywhere that SOB is.

Posted by: Colin at January 30, 2017 11:19 AM (nxlAK)

779 to me the best screw for wood on wood etc /www.zoro.com /value-brand-cabinet-wood-screw-10x2-12-pk85-5jtv8/i/G2913434/?utm_term=X_PB8_Fasteners&utm_ source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=PLA_US_Tier1Brand_ValueBrand&utm_ content= All%20Products&gclid=CMHL54Xn6tECFU4JfwodPYcO9Q&gclsrc=ds

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:19 AM (R7cwD)

780 >>> I mention this only because I ended up going back to said play with some cousins for a night out. While there the lot of us cousins end up chatting with one of the actors and actresses. Guess whose number I get? (Hint: It wasn't the actor.) You're dating a cousin? Sicko. Congrats Seawolf!

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2017 11:19 AM (hvf9s)

781 781 Being a NY resident, got an email from Cuomo, we are going to fight Trump in the air, on the beaches, everywhere that SOB is. Posted by: Colin at January 30, 2017 04:19 PM (nxlAK) "All we have to offer is toil and Chuck Schumer's tears. No blood, though. And certainly no sweat."

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 30, 2017 11:20 AM (8hICw)

782 Here's the reaction of Sooper Genius reporter Conor McCormick to the shooting Too early to know if #Quebec mosque shooting was perpetrated by right-wing extremists. If it was, then this is result of Trump rhetoric. He's a student at Columbia, of course, but has been published by Huffington Post, International Business Times, and others. He claims to be a middle east news expert.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2017 11:20 AM (39g3+)

783 or lefty loosey Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 04:16 PM (R7cwD) Remember always to do the right-hand-rule thing with your right hand, before slicing with a hammer or screwing, or otherwise getting your nuts or bolts tighter or looser.

Posted by: filbert at January 30, 2017 11:20 AM (s5o+q)

784
I am kinda laughing imagining what Ace's shelves look like, and whether he used a level.  Also whether or not his drill had a torque adjustment and it wasn't set right.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 30, 2017 11:20 AM (ODxAs)

785 781 Being a NY resident, got an email from Cuomo, we are going to fight Trump in the air, on the beaches, everywhere that SOB is.

Posted by: Colin at January 30, 2017 04:19 PM (nxlAK)

Meh. Cuomo has a ways to go before he can compete with the idiotic drivel I'm getting from Jerry Brown and Newsom.

Posted by: IC at January 30, 2017 11:20 AM (a0IVu)

786 So according to TGP, the 2nd suspect (Mohammed) has been released and the only arrest is the white guy they are saying is a Trump supporter. I hope they are wrong, cuz this is the last thing we needed right now... Posted by: I smell something Rotten BFD. If it truly was, I'll give him a pass. He has enough rage for the French market massacre, Charlie Hebdo, and Nice.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at January 30, 2017 11:20 AM (MZVOx)

787 All these toughguys in their blue states are going to "resist" Trump,LOL

Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2017 11:20 AM (r/0kC)

788 Metal studs are another matter, wouldn't expect less than a 20ga to hold much of anything. Other achors are needed.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 11:20 AM (0AwCy)

789 did you drill a pilot hole first?

Posted by: phoenixgirl...26 days until spring training at January 30, 2017 11:21 AM (0O7c5)

790 or if you want a nice screw head. Cabinet Wood Screw, #8x2 1/2, PK104 VALUE BRAND| Zoro #: G0397074| Mfr #: 5JTW0

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:21 AM (R7cwD)

791 "...to me the best screw for wood on wood..." --- Heh.

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 11:21 AM (CRotO)

792 Still no idea where my screw drivers are though, and the girlfriend won't fess up to using them. Posted by: Harry Paratestes ----------- Well, and that's part of the problem. I'm the only one using this stuff, so, the damn thing is right where I put it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 11:21 AM (NBHj5)

793 All these toughguys in their blue states are going to "resist" Trump,LOL Legally, he's "not their President" after all.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 11:21 AM (QQ+il)

794 alos having the correct bitips helps with screws and also screw slow on delicate projects. no hammer drilling
Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 04:11 PM


Wisdom AND the zen of AoSHQ in one comment.

This can't remain just the crown jewel of this thread. It really should be enshrined in the recent comments section of the sidebar.

Posted by: Duncanthrax[/i] at January 30, 2017 11:21 AM (DMUuz)

795 I was amazed that Home Depot power tools (Ridgid?) have lifetime battery warranties. Their drills/drivers are more than adequate for above-average DIY types, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at January 30, 2017 11:22 AM (Halhc)

796 796 All these toughguys in their blue states are going to "resist" Trump,LOL

Legally, he's "not their President" after all.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 04:21 PM (QQ+il)

Resist? California is going to WAR!!!!!(according to our governor).

Posted by: IC at January 30, 2017 11:22 AM (a0IVu)

797 Some are claiming since the guy with the Muslim name was released and the white guy held he's the shooter and further is a right-winger. Based on that, not anything else.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2017 11:22 AM (39g3+)

798 He's a student at Columbia, of course, but has been published by Huffington Post, International Business Times, and others. He claims to be a middle east news expert. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2017 04:20 PM (39g3+) --- Dumbass probably never set foot in the ME.

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 11:22 AM (CRotO)

799 I suspect Ace's neighbor's cockatoo overheard Ace working on the shelves and picked up some new words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fzaKrW1swM

Posted by: [/b][/i][/s]Muldoon at January 30, 2017 11:22 AM (wPiJc)

800 Re: green cards Everything I've seen on this so far looks like bullshit to me. IMO, if you've got a green card and this isn't your 15th trip to terror land this month and haven't been gone for several weeks and are coming back with callouses on your hands and smell like sulfur ... pass on through. That said, 2 years ago a friend from Mexico (Mexican citizen) was stopped coming into the US to visit me and family. She was looking to start a business in the US so had spend some time here, went back for a few weeks, and was coming back again. Nothing odd. Well within the stay limits. She got yanked out of line and held up by immigration. They took her phone, forced her to unlock it, searched her stuff, and held her for hours. The agent saw my number on her phone and called me and start d grilling and threatening me. I was polite, till he started trying to interrogate me and started with threats. I told him he needed to back the fuck off or tell me, right then, exactly what law was either broken or even in question. He STFU and she was out two minutes later... but ended up stuck in Houston overnight because there were no more flights. The media outrageous outrage is bullshit. 109 people out of 325,000 being delayed is a vast, dramatic improvement over what's been going on for decades with citizens and non citizens being delayed.

Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 11:22 AM (71OEY)

801 Some are claiming since the guy with the Muslim name was released and the white guy held he's the shooter and further is a right-winger. Based on that, not anything else. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2017 04:22 PM (39g3+) Far-left logic. Don't go there. That way lies madness.

Posted by: filbert at January 30, 2017 11:23 AM (s5o+q)

802 Use a Dremel to grind down a stripped screw. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 30, 2017 11:23 AM (hqZPQ)

803 >>I'm the only one using this stuff, so, the damn thing is right where I put it. We had a guy on our jobs who would bring his Golden Retriever to work. That mutt was a notorious tool thief. He'd snag anything you put down and then hide it in the yard, somewhere.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 11:23 AM (OhOyF)

804 802 I suspect Ace's neighbor's cockatoo overheard Ace working on the shelves and picked up some new words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fzaKrW1swM Posted by: Muldoon at January 30, 2017 04:22 PM (wPiJc) --- I love that bird.

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 11:23 AM (CRotO)

805 The Austin local news spent half of its 30 minutes on the "immigration" crisis, glorifying lyft, UT and other corps that have challenged the EO, while chastising any company (Uber) that has either weakly supported the temporary ban or simply not freaked out about it. Nowhere did the news coverage talk about the ban being temporary, its safety goals, or the actual, real-world impact on Americans and others doing business in the US (which is pretty close to nil). Meanwhile, the scroll at the bottom says things like "Trump set to remove Obama's coal ban that protected streams." Apparently, Trump hates streams!!! And this is a usually fairly middle of the road news program. UGH.

Posted by: LASue, the most deplorable at January 30, 2017 11:24 AM (CLKfs)

806 624 ...patches of half-assed spackling to hide the tear-outs from the first three times he put weight on the shelves. Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at January 30, 2017 03:57 PM (v30kf) You mean that tube and a half of toothpaste?

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 30, 2017 11:24 AM (di1hb)

807 Screwing into hardwood seems preferable these days than screwing into carpet.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2017 11:24 AM (Z4z/q)

808 My prayers are answered!

Posted by: Just the Punchline at January 30, 2017 11:24 AM (QQ+il)

809 The thoughts crossed my mind, but I haven't quite come to grips with that yet. I'd much rather find something long term and real and ditch the whole dating scene. Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 30, 2017 04:18 PM (WuRdh But that is how you eventually find the best long term option... By not looking long term. Make them compete with each other. The LAST thing you want to do is seem and come across as always available. You have 3 going so keep the momentum going for ya and let the best woman win..... Way down the road

Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 30, 2017 11:24 AM (j8aRL)

810 Resist? California is going to WAR!!!!!(according to our governor). Posted by: IC at January 30, 2017 04:22 PM (a0IVu) I have just signed a bill that outlaws California forever; we begin bombing in five minutes...

Posted by: Donald Trump at January 30, 2017 11:24 AM (OzJeO)

811 So when I first came to comment here in 2004, I was chatting with a 16-year old?  Ugh. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 30, 2017 11:25 AM (hqZPQ)

812 Found it! Here's the art thread from 12/9/16 where Seawolf asked for dating advice: http://minx.cc:1080/?post=367278

Posted by: bluebell at January 30, 2017 11:25 AM (sBOL1)

813 "796 All these toughguys in their blue states are going to "resist" Trump,LOL" We've already provided the blueprint take back local, state, etc. legislative positions, then put a hammer in at the next presidential election because folks are sick of lawfare. For some reason I don't think that's what they have in mind, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at January 30, 2017 11:26 AM (Halhc)

814 So when I first came to comment here in 2004, I was chatting with a 16-year old? Ugh. A precocious 16 year old, you have to admit.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 30, 2017 11:26 AM (QQ+il)

815 747 >>and also screw slow on delicate projects. no hammer drilling Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 04:11 PM (R7cwD) Racist! Hammer needs to hang some shelves!

Posted by: MC Hammer at January 30, 2017 11:26 AM (71OEY)

816 So when I first came to comment here in 2004, I was chatting with a 16-year old? Ugh. Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 30, 2017 04:25 PM (hqZPQ) Time machine. Ace . . . er . . . Screwie or whatever the hell we're calling him now . . . is actually 206 years old. And from Endor.

Posted by: filbert at January 30, 2017 11:26 AM (s5o+q)

817 So the witnesses were wrong in claiming the shooter yelled Allahu Akbar?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2017 11:26 AM (Z4z/q)

818 My local machine shop refers to these jobs as Extra Dispatch of Money I heard it as Extremely Desperate, with Money. I've got an old Russian guy who can usually get that crap out with a lot of patience on the end-mill. Oh, and Timesert. Don't ever Helicoil.

Posted by: JEM at January 30, 2017 11:26 AM (TppKb)

819 All day every Leftist I heard on TV or radio has made this out to be like locking homeless women and children n sub freezing weather without a coat

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 11:26 AM (0AwCy)

820 Based on his FB likes, Bisonnette was also a fan of Pizza Hut and world of Warcraft. I'm putting together a narrative about pepperoni and warlocks. https://archive.is/u2Hex

Posted by: H at January 30, 2017 11:26 AM (wUUPa)

821 This almost gives me the motivation to change out all the kitchen outlets and light/disposal switch.

Posted by: Infidel at January 30, 2017 11:26 AM (ByNzS)

822 i did sheetrock my whole oldhouse after looking for electrical b.s , high ceilings etc. gah never again. and NEVER garage board. do it once, next time call somebody with scaffolding and patience

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:26 AM (R7cwD)

823 Out here in Cali, we screw everything into the wall. Otherwise it may fall down in an earthquake and screw you.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 30, 2017 11:26 AM (6Ll1u)

824 Aren't all shooters white guys now?

Posted by: Moron Robbie at January 30, 2017 11:27 AM (Halhc)

825 All these toughguys in their blue states are going to "resist" Trump,LOL
Legally, he's "not their President" after all.
Resist? California is going to WAR!!!!!
==


yeah yeah , "literally  hitler", blah blah



Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! [/i][/b] at January 30, 2017 11:27 AM (Gv7El)

826 Hell drop hints or even tell them you are seeing other people, makes them compete with each other, and makes you more desirable in their eyes. Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 30, 2017 04:12 PM (j8aRL) Maybe, depends. It can also backfire spectacularly, which I have seen happen. Tread carefully. I would suggest not saying anything about other dates unless they ask, then be honest but respectful of the other ladies in this triangle/quadrangle that is becoming Seawolf's life.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2017 11:28 AM (hvf9s)

827 Finally watched the Spicer PressConf Damn that guy is good. Just a teensy bit over-caffienated though, no? If he could just dial it back a smidge. But I love love LOVE the way he starts these things off by rubbing the MFM's noses in their Fake News like bad little doggies. Moar please.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 30, 2017 11:28 AM (ul9CR)

828 ISIS supporters pissed about "ban". And I'm supposed to be upset over this?

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 11:29 AM (CRotO)

829 Aren't all shooters white guys now?

==

why yes.

Yes they are.

Posted by: Chicago at January 30, 2017 11:29 AM (Gv7El)

830 alright guys be SRS i'm trying to help!

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:29 AM (R7cwD)

831 826 Out here in Cali, we screw everything into the wall. And apparently ... as long as you go slowly ... that's ok !!! Remember - no hammer drilling.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 30, 2017 11:29 AM (UZZHo)

832 Aren't all shooters white guys now? At first, anyway.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 30, 2017 11:29 AM (oVJmc)

833 The screw spurned his efforts with jeers Unmoved by his blood, sweat and tears When Ace tried to cold-cock it He busted his socket And got a full refund at Sears

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 30, 2017 11:30 AM (8ZskC)

834 Speaking of, I'm getting ready (two weeks or less) to remove and replace the old ceramic tile in our kitchen with something less slippery and dangerous. I've read and watched Internet instruction, but does the horde have any tips before I get started?

Posted by: Moron Robbie at January 30, 2017 11:30 AM (Halhc)

835 Ace, you don't know how lucky you are to live on the East Coast when it coms to bookshelves. Out here in Earthquake Country (California), no one in their right mind would install bookshelves by screwing them into the wall. Because (obviously) even a mild earthquake could jar them loose and then they'd come crashing down on your head. No, instead, we out here MUST use bookcases that are resting directly on the floor. But that's just the first half of the safety precautions. Because it's not good enough simply to have a freestanding bookcase resting on the floor. Because a big enough quake could send it toppling over and then it would flatten you and your little dog Toto too. No, all bookcases MUST be bolted to the wall firmly in addition to resting directly on the floor. And the bolting MUST be (if humanly possible) screwed directly into a support beam or 2x4 stud; otherwise, the feeble screw would just crumble right out of the stupid crumbly drywall during an actual quake and the bolting would fail and the bookcase would fall over and kill you as you fled. Oh, how easy it would be to just cavalierly screw some bookshelves onto the wall. And the same is true with all other furniture and appliances too. Bolt, bolt, bolt. Strep, strap, strap. Also, NEVER put a mirror or a picture in a glass picture frame over or near your bed. Unless you want you throat cut by shards of glass in your sleep during the next 5am megaquake.

Posted by: zombie at January 30, 2017 11:30 AM (jBuUi)

836 ISIS supporters pissed about "ban". And I'm supposed to be upset over this? Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 04:29 PM (CRotO) i know right? we are supposed to care about the feelings' of a murderous terror group raping killing people all acroos africa and the me? Bah missile those fkkrs

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:31 AM (R7cwD)

837 Maybe, depends. It can also backfire spectacularly, which I have seen happen. Tread carefully. I would suggest not saying anything about other dates unless they ask, then be honest but respectful of the other ladies in this triangle/quadrangle that is becoming Seawolf's life.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2017 04:28 PM (hvf9s)

Seawolf should consider writing a Harlequin romance book detailing his exploits.

Posted by: IC at January 30, 2017 11:31 AM (a0IVu)

838
How do you say shelf in French?

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! [/i][/b] at January 30, 2017 11:31 AM (Gv7El)

839 837 Speaking of, I'm getting ready (two weeks or less) to remove and replace the old ceramic tile in our kitchen with something less slippery and dangerous. Yeah ... definitely don't hammer drill on that.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 30, 2017 11:31 AM (UZZHo)

840 Screw head stripped in the direction you were turning it often can still be turned in the opposite direction without resorting to screw extractors.

Posted by: Toad-O at January 30, 2017 11:31 AM (cct0t)

841 No way, man! I saw Indiana Jones hang a thugee killer with a bullwhip on a ceiling fan! Posted by: RKae at January 30, 2017 04:03 PM (EnhfY) I saw Indiana Jones hang a thugee killer with a bullwhip on a ceiling fan! open for Godpeed You! Black Emperor at the TLA in '04.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 30, 2017 11:31 AM (AURKQ)

842 Also, if you really want to go all in with tools, I know a lot of people who like Dewalt, however, they are on the heavy side but I believe they have a lot of torque.

/is torque the right word?
Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 30, 2017 04:02 PM


DeWalt's are great. The newer ones are quite light, and have different battery sizes, so you can optimize your weight/longevity preference.

Newer brushless tools are generally lighter on the battery, giving longer run-time.

Torque is the right word. The Dewalt I have has 3 selectable gears, so you can trade-off between RPM and torque.

Posted by: Duncanthrax[/i] at January 30, 2017 11:31 AM (DMUuz)

843 Y'all been workin'. Me? I worked all weekend so I took Monday off and saw "La La Land" I enjoyed it. And it was fun seeing a modernish musical. The story was very much what I would imagine to be a typical type of everyday boy meets girl versus their careers sort of story. To say more would involve spoilers. The downside? No memorable songs and neither lead could sing or dance. But, they could move nicely and the director cut around that so it looked like they could dance. Interesting date movie. Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 30, 2017 11:32 AM (9q7Dl)

844 828 All these toughguys in their blue states are going to "resist" Trump,LOL Legally, he's "not their President" after all. Resist? California is going to WAR!!!!! == yeah yeah , "literally hitler", blah blah Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! at January 30, 2017 04:27 PM (Gv7El) How are those blue state tough guys going to resist? By tossing their hot skinny lattes on the rest of us?

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at January 30, 2017 11:32 AM (nQ10o)

845 i leave the hammer drilling to cement to floor joisting

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:32 AM (R7cwD)

846 Someone say bullwhip? 

Posted by: Robert Mapplethorpe at January 30, 2017 11:32 AM (hqZPQ)

847 >> Speaking of, I'm getting ready (two weeks or less) to remove and replace the old ceramic tile in our kitchen with something less slippery and dangerous. Do you know what's under the Ceramic, yet? Also, goggles and gloves, removing ceramic can get messy with shards and such.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 11:32 AM (OhOyF)

848 800 Some are claiming since the guy with the Muslim name was released and the white guy held he's the shooter and further is a right-winger. Based on that, not anything else. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2017 04:22 PM (39g3+) Remember the Airport shooting where the media was calling him white and all the propaganda and then the internet sleuths uncovered that he was Muslim, Detained by the FBI, and all that other shit in the time of less than 2 hours. They held the suspects for what 16 hours in Canada. Had dozens of witnesses say 2 shooters and maybe a 3rd. This smells like a hobo choad to me. White boy with red hair was in a Moar than friendly relationship with Muslim guy. They both shoot it up. Muslim turns on white boy after 16 hours. 12-16 hours they had them and multiple eye witness accounts of two shooters. Now white boy who is a Trump fan and a feminist is a lone wolf. Dog don't hunt

Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 30, 2017 11:32 AM (j8aRL)

849 tool war? Ryobi or go home!

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:32 AM (R7cwD)

850 Attention to all the white suburban women in my social media sphere: No, "we" are most definitely *not* "All Muslims Today." They would put your de-clitted asses in burquas, you pathetic dolts. Not to single out women. But I haven't seen this meme from any of the men in my feeds, though I have a few things I'd like to say to them too if they pop up.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 30, 2017 11:33 AM (ul9CR)

851 ok milwaukee is also good.

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:33 AM (R7cwD)

852 I was amazed that Home Depot power tools (Ridgid?) have lifetime battery warranties. ------------ Forget the tools, go for the calendars.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 11:33 AM (NBHj5)

853 Dumbass probably never set foot in the ME. According to his LinkedIn he spent a year in Tunisia, one of those "I was in x country" and brings it up constantly guys.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2017 11:33 AM (39g3+)

854 674 526 so seriously how long should the screws in the studs be? Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:47 PM (8rNrN) friendly neighborhood structural engineer here. 6 times the diameter of the screw is probably good enough, if you have the right size screw. Add a 1/2" for the gyp board in between, or something a bit more if you have plaster and lath. Sounds like you have gyp though. So for a 1/4" screw go for 1 1/2" into the stud.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 30, 2017 11:33 AM (yL25O)

855 847 How are those blue state tough guys going to resist? By tossing their hot skinny lattes on the rest of us? Posted by: Ladylibertarian at January 30, 2017 04:32 PM (nQ10o) ================== I kind of want California to sue to stop sending tax payments to the federal government, and then I want them to win. Imagine, states having direct say in the funding of the federal government again, like a backdoor Senate selected by state legislatures thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 11:34 AM (BjrOM)

856 Ugh. My fingers outran my brain: The story was very much what I would imagine to be a typical type of everyday Hollywood showbiz boy meets girl versus their careers sort of story.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 30, 2017 11:34 AM (9q7Dl)

857 I've read and watched Internet instruction, but does the horde have any tips before I get started? Posted by: Moron Robbie at January 30, 2017 04:30 PM (Halhc) Stores like Home Depot and Lowes sometimes to free classes on how to do it, you can watch them do it IRL and ask questions. Might be a good idea. What kind of flooring are you putting in?

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2017 11:34 AM (hvf9s)

858 837 - you taking off old tile yourself then? By hand might be best trying not to wreck whats behind it. Hammer floor chisel safety glasses. Good possibility whats under might need to come off if a weak naterial like drywall, plywood or tile backer board is better but if old not likely.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 11:34 AM (0AwCy)

859 According to his LinkedIn he spent a year in Tunisia, one of those "I was in x country" and brings it up constantly guys. --- Tunisia, huh? Beats three years in Iraq, I suppose.

Posted by: SMFH at January 30, 2017 11:34 AM (CRotO)

860 Book shelf
étagère à livres

or Royale with Screws


one of those.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! [/i][/b] at January 30, 2017 11:35 AM (Gv7El)

861 they have small jack hammers if you can't just pop up with a flat tool and hammper.

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:35 AM (R7cwD)

862 Ace, you are an embarrassment to all of Trump's blue collar, can-do, men-of-action supporters ;-)

Posted by: Zon Toro at January 30, 2017 11:35 AM (82s/V)

863 I prefer to use my impact driver, but that's just me.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 30, 2017 11:35 AM (6Ll1u)

864 >>>Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 30, 2017 04:03 PM (WuRdh) Great stuff!

Posted by: m [/b][/i][/s][/u] at January 30, 2017 11:35 AM (3jGss)

865 I kind of want California to sue to stop sending tax payments to the federal government, and then I want them to win. Texas is watching. Seriously, we nearly fought a war over this, states trying to negate federal law back when Andrew Jackson was president.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2017 11:35 AM (39g3+)

866 You know ... just to save wear and tear on your own place ... it's probably best to save the hammer drilling for your local motel.

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 30, 2017 11:35 AM (UZZHo)

867 I got one of those oscillating multi tools for Christmas. I'm excited to see how it does getting up the old tile and associated junk. On a slab, btw.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at January 30, 2017 11:35 AM (Halhc)

868 This thread just reminds me that I want that new Dewalt Flex Volt table saw more than the kid in A Christmas Story wanted the red ryder BB gun.

Posted by: DanInMN at January 30, 2017 11:35 AM (h5ffp)

869 Also, NEVER put a mirror or a picture in a glass picture frame over or near your bed.
Posted by: zombie at January 30, 2017 04:30 PM


Isn't having a mirror over your bed a requirement for any AoSHQ membership above cardboard level?

Posted by: Duncanthrax[/i] at January 30, 2017 11:35 AM (DMUuz)

870 Which is more racist: Singling out Muslim outreach for a NASA project? Detaining/ delaying/ searching everyone in an airport EXCEPT anyone who looks Muslim out of fear of upsetting people in countries that want to kill Americans? Detaining and releasing within hours 109 out of 325,000 people coming into the country from countries identified by the Obama administration as being major threats in need of additional screening? I am so fucking sick of our Twitter/ Facebook obsessed, DNC employed media.

Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 11:35 AM (71OEY)

871 835 Aren't all shooters white guys now? At first, anyway. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 30, 2017 04:29 PM (oVJmc) 50 million Shades of White.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 11:35 AM (UBQ2A)

872 okay one update: having been told I have to put in longer screws, and wanting to check the drill, I took out one screw and tried drilling a pilot hole. The drill failed to make any kind of distance into the stud. The tip is blunted, maybe. I'm not sure now I did have the thing on reverse (putting it back into the box, toggled side down, can push the toggle into the reverse position). I tried hand-screwing a 2 5/8th inch screw but it was no go. I'll have to wait for that drill/driver to see what's up.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 11:36 AM (8rNrN)

873 http://tinyurl.com/z2vbssy


Black Diamond

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! [/i][/b] at January 30, 2017 11:36 AM (Gv7El)

874 868 I kind of want California to sue to stop sending tax payments to the federal government, and then I want them to win. Texas is watching. Seriously, we nearly fought a war over this, states trying to negate federal law back when Andrew Jackson was president. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2017 04:35 PM (39g3+) =================== Nullification crisis, blah. That was a different time when states DID have direct say in the federal government's dealings through the Senate. That is gone now. The states need something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 11:36 AM (BjrOM)

875 Oh yeah, now that you've failed with a lady's power drill/driver, you need to move up to the big boy stuff... table saws, drill presses and what not... it's not fun if the tool can't kill you.

Posted by: Zon Toro at January 30, 2017 11:37 AM (82s/V)

876 leans on my pillow lights cig.

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:37 AM (R7cwD)

877 868 I kind of want California to sue to stop sending tax payments to the federal government, and then I want them to win.

Texas is watching.

Seriously, we nearly fought a war over this, states trying to negate federal law back when Andrew Jackson was president.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2017 04:35 PM (39g3+)

I honestly wonder what Cali would do if Trump says, sure thing. I want more power to the states anyway. Cali is throwing a tantrum thinking that would make Trump cave because 'oh no, please don't go, we can't live w/o you and your money' sentiment.

Posted by: IC at January 30, 2017 11:37 AM (a0IVu)

878 A good set of tools is a friend for life

unless your friends borrow them, and they are gypsies, tramps and thieves 
I still have a few tools from 30 years ago, but I moved a lot.

That is not normal drywall.  Maybe hit a nail, or there is a secret passage hidden behind the wall, Gotti's vault from his earlier days?  Drywall may have metal under it, protecting corners ... sharp bits are helpful.  After 800 comments, inquiring minds want to know.  ha

Posted by: illiniwek at January 30, 2017 11:37 AM (nYqUL)

879 According to his LinkedIn he spent a year in Tunisia, one of those "I was in x country" and brings it up constantly guys. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
-----
"Are you sure about this theory on Tunisia you have? It sounds way off."
"Oh yeah? Oh yeah? Don't talk to ME about Tunesia, man. I LIVED there, man. I LIVED there!"

Posted by: Biergood at January 30, 2017 11:37 AM (v8Lx/)

880 Use a Dremel to grind down a stripped screw. Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 30, 2017 04:23 PM (hqZPQ) If there is enough of the head above the surface, put on the old Vise Grips and slowly start backing it out.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Bans, Slams, and Frenzies! Midwinter Sale at the Outrage Outlet! at January 30, 2017 11:37 AM (hLRSq)

881 etagere a livres

There.

I wrote that French in American.

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! [/i][/b] at January 30, 2017 11:38 AM (Gv7El)

882 ace what drill bit do you have is it for wood or metal?

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:38 AM (R7cwD)

883 Get first easiest tile and work from there , get chisel behind and at first tap as light as needed to try and get full tile loose, bigger tiles off is less to cleanup.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 11:38 AM (0AwCy)

884 fwiw, it turns out the Muz named suspect was a witness. The other suspect was a honest RWNJ who backlashed.

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at January 30, 2017 11:38 AM (QkS7+)

885 it can blunt and do nothing OR LOL you could have drill in wrong direction. lefty loosey righty tighty. LOL

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:39 AM (R7cwD)

886 (ive done that)

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:39 AM (R7cwD)

887 880 I honestly wonder what Cali would do if Trump says, sure thing. I want more power to the states anyway. Cali is throwing a tantrum thinking that would make Trump cave because 'oh no, please don't go, we can't live w/o you and your money' sentiment. Posted by: IC at January 30, 2017 04:37 PM (a0IVu) ================== My ideal would really be a repeal of the 17th amendment and then the 28th amendment that dictated that senators were selected by state legislatures (the Constitution, before the 17th, states that states can choose how they elect senators, but they all started that way. They actually started moving towards popular elections on their own in the late 19th century).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 11:39 AM (BjrOM)

888 I honestly wonder what Cali would do if Trump says, sure thing. I want more power to the states anyway That would honestly be hilarious, it would definitely call their bluff. Especially if he did it in a press conference from, say, the Texas Capitol building. The left is starting to yell for all the stuff we've been wanting for decades: smaller government! Less executive power! More state power! Less money in politics! You got it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2017 11:39 AM (39g3+)

889 She was angry, trouble was brewing Slow down, she cried, with that screwing! You can't hammer that drill With such lack of skill Do you have any idea what you're doing?

Posted by: The Wall Mount at January 30, 2017 11:39 AM (+INtM)

890 Wasn't someone claiming vigorous research had led her to determine Ace was a delicate young lady a few days ago?

Posted by: Moron Robbie at January 30, 2017 11:39 AM (Halhc)

891 DRILLS like a f'n hammer!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 11:40 AM (UBQ2A)

892 I'm a fan of faster transport for our Marines and special forces so the aren't sitting ducks, but the Osprey seems to be a bust. Is it just that hard to fly or is it the plane itself?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2017 11:40 AM (Z4z/q)

893 891 I honestly wonder what Cali would do if Trump says, sure thing. I want more power to the states anyway That would honestly be hilarious, it would definitely call their bluff. Especially if he did it in a press conference from, say, the Texas Capitol building. The left is starting to yell for all the stuff we've been wanting for decades: smaller government! Less executive power! More state power! Less money in politics! You got it. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2017 04:39 PM (39g3+) ================== As Moron Pundit put it (and what I think should be placed on the site's banner), "The beatings will continue until Constitutional Scholarship improves."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 11:40 AM (BjrOM)

894 Knots in wood can be like going through titanium, pre drill with pilot drill bit.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 11:40 AM (0AwCy)

895 Ollie the Bobcat escapes from the National Zoo Link in nic. WaPo. Sorry. (Via Drudge) Feline Lives Matter!

Posted by: filbert at January 30, 2017 11:40 AM (s5o+q)

896 The other suspect was a honest RWNJ who backlashed. No, that's what people who know nothing more than you do are speculating. They don't have any information beyond "one of the people the cops pulled in was let go and he was Muslim." That's it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2017 11:40 AM (39g3+)

897 >>Ace was a delicate young lady a few days ago? Ewok are like earth worms that way.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 11:40 AM (OhOyF)

898 The downside? No memorable songs and neither lead could sing or dance. But, they could move nicely and the director cut around that so it looked like they could dance. Posted by: naturalfake at January 30, 2017 04:32 PM (9q7Dl) The days of actors being triple threats is sadly dead. This film keenly shows the loss. But if it paves the way for a new era of musicals I'd be happy. The ending was quite amazing, I liked that. The rest was meh in a charming way. Usually the most emotional scenes in a musical are, you know, sung. In this they seemed to randomly choose when to have songs, and not all of the most emotional scenes had any.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2017 11:40 AM (hvf9s)

899 893 Wasn't someone claiming vigorous research had led her to determine Ace was a delicate young lady a few days ago? Posted by: Moron Robbie at January 30, 2017 04:39 PM (Halhc) ===================== Doesn't mean that Ace doesn't identify as one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 11:40 AM (BjrOM)

900 885 ace what drill bit do you have is it for wood or metal? Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 04:38 PM (R7cwD) Carbide tip cuts through anything. HSS, not so much.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 11:41 AM (UBQ2A)

901 852 tool war? Ryobi or go home! Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 04:32 PM (R7cwD) Ryobi? Yeah. They're cute little tools. For girls. I think they even come in pink. Excellent for assembling shoe racks... or one or two of them. *ducks* Kidding aside, every Ryobi tool I've had has been shit. Halfway decent rotary tool for small projects, but only because Dremel tools are even shittier.

Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 11:41 AM (71OEY)

902 823 Based on his FB likes, Bisonnette was also a fan of Pizza Hut and world of Warcraft. I'm putting together a narrative about pepperoni and warlocks. https://archive.is/u2Hex Posted by: H at January 30, 2017 04:26 PM (wUUPa LMFAO!!! What a stoopid time to be alive.

Posted by: Pepe, Moar Pleaae. at January 30, 2017 11:41 AM (j8aRL)

903 That is not normal drywall. When Ace said 'apartment', my first thought was Ace lives in a concrete box that has drywall glued on the inside walls, to hide the concrete.

Posted by: Naughtchoes at January 30, 2017 11:41 AM (/5NOC)

904 i actually love tools, i do stained glass small wood rebuilding old furniture and sometimes crying trying to build patios. i tell my spouse don't YOU need this saudering or flex or maybe we could use a good tile saw. because it's fun!

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:41 AM (R7cwD)

905 875 I'll have to wait for that drill/driver to see what's up.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 04:36 PM (8rNrN)


I went and had lunch, and I came back expecting that you were now ready to tackle truly impressive home improvement jobs like replacing a receptacle faceplate. 


Disappointed.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 30, 2017 11:41 AM (GX63o)

906 900 comments and not one with "Ace" and "Hardware?" *sigh*

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 11:41 AM (UBQ2A)

907 It is adorable watching leftists cry "unconstitutional" now. Mind you they don't know much about the constitution beyond the 1st amendment (at least, part of it) but its cute to see them say it. I keep encouraging them to read the document. Its short, easy to read, simple, straight forward. The more they read and learn, the better.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2017 11:42 AM (39g3+)

908 https://tinyurl.com/gv49yvr ------------------------------------ John Lewis getting visited by the Karma Bus

Posted by: EVLINC! at January 30, 2017 11:42 AM (y3aQB)

909 The other suspect was a honest RWNJ who backlashed. No, that's what people who know nothing more than you do are speculating. They don't have any information beyond "one of the people the cops pulled in was let go and he was Muslim." That's it. *** André Bissonnette will learn more later. But how many trucks of peace/night club shootings equal one backlash?

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at January 30, 2017 11:42 AM (QkS7+)

910 comments and not one with "Ace" and "Hardware?" *sigh* Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2017 04:41 PM (UBQ2A) Ace is the Place with the Helpful Moron Horde.

Posted by: filbert at January 30, 2017 11:42 AM (s5o+q)

911 I was born in Cali,in the 50's, and I'll die here. Maybe

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at January 30, 2017 11:42 AM (6Ll1u)

912 I tried hand-screwing a 2 5/8th inch screw but it was no go. Ace, is this a very hard wall, kind of reddish, with a lot of little rectangles? If so, this is a very special kind of wood known as 'brick.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 30, 2017 11:42 AM (oVJmc)

913 Thanks for the laughs from one of the country's worst do it yourself handymen. I feel your pain. It is made worse because when I give up on yet another bungled project, I am left with the knowledge that I could have (1) done something I enjoyed with the wasted time, or (2) just worked at my day job and made more than enough to pay someone who knew what they were doing to do it right the first time. Lord, the cul de sacs we build for ourselves.

Posted by: RM at January 30, 2017 11:42 AM (U3LtS)

914 Here's the reaction of Sooper Genius reporter Conor McCormick to the shooting Too early to know if #Quebec mosque shooting was perpetrated by right-wing extremists. If it was, then this is result of Trump rhetoric. He's a student at Columbia, of course, but has been published by Huffington Post, International Business Times, and others. He claims to be a middle east news expert. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2017 04:20 PM (39g3+) The Middle East Expert who is likely in his eighth year at Columbia, who has simply listened rapt to his instructors who also have only visited the ME on a sponsored tour and got to ride a camel. And of course, a right wing extremist is inspired by Trump. Trump is Hitler, did you forget?

Posted by: Jen at January 30, 2017 11:43 AM (z0fov)

915 It is adorable watching leftists cry "unconstitutional" now. Mind you they don't know much about the constitution beyond the 1st amendment (at least, part of it) but its cute to see them say it. **** Constitution is what libs call a suicide pact.

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at January 30, 2017 11:43 AM (QkS7+)

916 Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 04:36 PM (8rNrN) Is your apartment separated from other apartments just with Sheetrock? Maybe you've hit a steel beam.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2017 11:43 AM (Z4z/q)

917 Based on his FB likes, Bisonnette was also a fan of Pizza Hut and world of Warcraft. If its the same guy, notice the multiple Quebec separatist groups he belongs to. They've been up to violence and trouble for a long time in Canada.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2017 11:43 AM (39g3+)

918 Wasn't someone claiming vigorous research had led her to determine Ace was a delicate young lady a few days ago?

==

ace
atc

that's all I gonna say

Posted by: Mortimer, Finish Her! [/i][/b] at January 30, 2017 11:43 AM (Gv7El)

919 Damiona i loove my ryobii also have big worm drives i have used for years . just don't be mean! i do as i said also like milwauki tools. i want a lazer saw for marble . i doubt i will ever get it.

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:43 AM (R7cwD)

920 Nood SCOTUS

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at January 30, 2017 11:43 AM (BjrOM)

921 Tool War Makita. Light duty, for light work. Excellent tools. uh... just realized that was thirty years ago.

Posted by: Naughtchoes at January 30, 2017 11:43 AM (/5NOC)

922 I honestly wonder what Cali would do if Trump says, sure thing. I want more power to the states anyway Or this can be Trump's version of the Whiskey Rebellion. I don't see that he loses either way. Though 10th Amendmenting everything possible and then radically downsize Washington DC gov't would be nice too.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 30, 2017 11:44 AM (9q7Dl)

923 Son of a bitch, I stumbled into a low class home improvement blog. Guess that's what happens when you get used a Smart Military blog.

Posted by: Old Nam Vet at January 30, 2017 11:44 AM (bKxiT)

924 >I tried hand-screwing a 2 5/8th inch screw but it was no go. A Bar of Soap makes for a good wood screw lubricant, btw. if you are forced to screw by hand, it will make a world of difference.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 11:44 AM (OhOyF)

925 One thing I've noticed about this place after all these years: If you have a problem, come to the horde for advice. You'll get it in spades. (SWIDT). Once the horde has come to a consensus, do the exact opposite. Presuming that you don want to end up in jail or the morgue.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 30, 2017 11:44 AM (kTF2Z)

926 I'm a fan of faster transport for our Marines and special forces so the aren't sitting ducks, but the Osprey seems to be a bust. Is it just that hard to fly or is it the plane itself? Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth ------------ Just because it can be done, doesn't mean that it should be done.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 11:44 AM (NBHj5)

927 >>>Isn't having a mirror over your bed a requirement for any AoSHQ membership above cardboard level? ..... Only for those born in or hitting puberty during the 70s or prior. Which is meaningless, since there's not a person here who's a day over 29.

Posted by: Damiano at January 30, 2017 11:45 AM (71OEY)

928 Attention to all the white suburban women in my social media sphere:

No, "we" are most definitely *not* "All Muslims Today." They would put your de-clitted asses in burquas, you pathetic dolts.

Not to single out women. But I haven't seen this meme from any of the men in my feeds, though I have a few things I'd like to say to them too if they pop up.
---

Sigh.

I'm a conservative female who actually can think, and really, I hate to say this, but a lot of women have the intellectual acumen of rubber cement.

They go along with these idiotic statements and have no effing clue what they're saying because it feels good.  They just are screaming the libtard meme of the day at the top of their lungs.

"Pay attention to me! I care!!! ELEVENTY!!"

Sweeties. Calm the f*ck down. Take a xanax,  make yourself a sammich and STFU.

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 30, 2017 11:45 AM (J5mC3)

929 Often when notsure what I am going into, I take a nail and hammer it in some to see what it is, if easy and nail is driving you should be ok. You will know if its a knot (I would anyway) or maybe a steel support member or plate connection.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 11:45 AM (0AwCy)

930 i draw the line at electrical or plumbing anything. srsly it is intimidating as heck

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:45 AM (R7cwD)

931 "I'm a fan of faster transport for our Marines and special forces so the aren't sitting ducks, but the Osprey seems to be a bust. Is it just that hard to fly or is it the plane itself?" It's said to be easier to fly for certain pilots. But it's an extremely expensive, overcomplicated, fragile bird. With its own set of unusual flight dynamics. For instance, straight-line arrivals and departures at the LZ. None of the defensive tactical maneuvers which the combat helo community commonly employ, because the Osprey can't do them.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 30, 2017 11:45 AM (noWW6)

932 I tried hand-screwing a 2 5/8th inch screw but it was no go.

You might screwing thru something else and don't know it.  eg. metal under the drywall or right next to a nail or the bit is binding on the shelf.

Or you've got older harder wood, a long screw and no lube.  Soap that bad boy up + getirdun.


Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 30, 2017 11:45 AM (8J/Te)

933 One thing I've noticed about this place after all these years: If you have a problem, come to the horde for advice. You'll get it in spades. (SWIDT). Once the horde has come to a consensus, do the exact opposite. Presuming that you don want to end up in jail or the morgue. Posted by: Duke Lowell ------------ You didn't like my suggestion of using explosives, did you?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 11:46 AM (NBHj5)

934 928 One thing I've noticed about this place after all these years: If you have a problem, come to the horde for advice. You'll get it in spades. (SWIDT). Once the horde has come to a consensus, do the exact opposite. Presuming that you don want to end up in jail or the morgue.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 30, 2017 04:44 PM (kTF2Z)

Although, the funeral parlor wasn't so bad...

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 30, 2017 11:46 AM (WuRdh)

935 >>The Middle East Expert who is likely in his eighth year at Columbia, who has simply listened rapt to his instructors who also have only visited the ME on a sponsored tour and got to ride a camel.

Yeah,  I wish they got to ride a camel.

Posted by: Abdul's Goat at January 30, 2017 11:46 AM (/Nite)

936 garrets right or candle wax

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:46 AM (R7cwD)

937 >>> Based on his FB likes, Bisonnette was also a fan of Pizza Hut and world of Warcraft. Can we also blame Tom Hanks, Marilyn Manson, Chess, Tennis, Tolkien, and John McCain? Because apparently he liked them too.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2017 11:46 AM (hvf9s)

938 Andre Bissonnette will learn more later. But how many trucks of peace/night club shootings equal one backlash? Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at January 30, 2017 04:42 PM (QkS7+) Maybe he got all oui oui'd up

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 30, 2017 11:47 AM (493sH)

939 Little late to the party here, but...

If it fits in a tool drawer, it ain't a real drill/driver.

Posted by: Gunslinger at January 30, 2017 11:47 AM (4S7hN)

940 Soap that bad boy up + getirdun. Always good advice ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at January 30, 2017 11:47 AM (UZZHo)

941 everyone here helped me with my broken copper line/fittings on toilet last year. saved me from a nervous breakdown. something i would never have tackled alone

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2017 11:47 AM (R7cwD)

942 i draw the line at electrical or plumbing anything.
srsly it is intimidating as heck
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I can do easy plumbing and a  bit more complex electrical, but I did some electrical work on one of my various jobs, so I learned it on the street.

1. yeah, I've shocked myself. Whatever.

2. plumbing involves water and can get messy.

But both can be done by a female who is motivated.

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 30, 2017 11:48 AM (J5mC3)

943 Seriously, we nearly fought a war over this, states trying to negate federal law back when Andrew Jackson was president. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2017 04:35 PM (39g3+) =================== Nullification crisis, blah. That was a different time when states DID have direct say in the federal government's dealings through the Senate. That is gone now. The states need something. Posted by: TheJamesMadison If you swing on the king, you'd better kill him. And I'll say the same for Texas. If you jump, you'd better win.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at January 30, 2017 11:48 AM (MZVOx)

944 Tools are the weapons of home wars

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 11:48 AM (0AwCy)

945 I kind of want California to sue to stop sending tax payments to the federal government, and then I want them to win. Texas is watching. Seriously, we nearly fought a war over this, states trying to negate federal law back when Andrew Jackson was president. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2017 04:35 PM (39g3+) Trail of Hippie Tears coming?

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 30, 2017 11:48 AM (OzJeO)

946 823 Based on his FB likes, Bisonnette was also a fan of Pizza Hut and world of Warcraft. I'm putting together a narrative about pepperoni and warlocks.

https://archive.is/u2Hex

Posted by: H at January 30, 2017 04:26 PM (wUUPa)

___________________________________________________


He also likes Tintin  - ergo - Nazi.  There is a reason Snowy was a white dog - if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Publius Redux at January 30, 2017 11:48 AM (Fb9aZ)

947 Or you've got older harder wood, a long screw and no lube. Soap that bad boy up + getirdun. Posted by: DaveA ------------ Our last house had been built in the early 50's. The roof joists were yellow pine, baked by 50 years of attic heat. Trying to drive a nail into them was pointless. Anything, including a nail, required a pilot hole be drilled.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 11:49 AM (NBHj5)

948 I am a carpenter but had to learn plumbing, luckily my father-in-law knew a lot

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 11:49 AM (0AwCy)

949 Tools are the weapons of home wars
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hahahahaha.

That explains the last month of so of Shibumi vs. The House.

Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 30, 2017 11:50 AM (J5mC3)

950 Tools are the weapons of home wars Posted by: Skip ------------- Sooner or later, you just have to take what ever weapon you have, and march to the front.

Posted by: Saul Bellow at January 30, 2017 11:50 AM (NBHj5)

951 Or you've got older harder wood, a long screw and no lube. Soap that bad boy up + getirdun. Posted by: DaveA LMFAO not going to post to that.

Posted by: Old Nam Vet at January 30, 2017 11:51 AM (bKxiT)

952 If I read the thread, it will give me something to do until the ONT is up. I have Sugru, which is a silicone putty. I use it to keep fixtures from rattling and making noise.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 30, 2017 11:51 AM (VdICR)

953 >>>How do you say shelf in French? I didn't know this so I looked it up. It's either etagere (rising accent over first e, falling accent over second). I've never seen that word before, but it's plainly etage (level, floor in a building, etc.) with the ere ending, which is a dimunitive (like -ette is a diminuitive). For a small shelf it would be tablette, which is table plus the diminuitive ette.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 11:51 AM (8rNrN)

954 I will try the soap trick (that's what she said) but I'm going to wait for my new drill/driver.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 11:52 AM (8rNrN)

955 Thanks for the tips, guys.  The classes at Lowes one especially.  I forgot they do that sort of thing.

Judging from some other stuff I've run into since buying this house I really do suspect there is nothing in between the tile and slab, so I think I'll have lots of tedious cleanup once the existing tile is out.  I'm going to put stone-looking porcelain in, but I have to find some I like that has a high COF (IIRC).  What we have now is dangerous as heck.  It's like ice if your heel hits even a single drop of water while you're walking.

Posted by: Moron Robbie at January 30, 2017 11:52 AM (Halhc)

956 >>Or you've got older harder wood, a long screw and no lube Well, he is almost 30, now.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2017 11:52 AM (OhOyF)

957 I am actually pleasantly shocked we haven't heard TFG chime in on the travel ban. - He was going to but he got high.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks. Laugh at a joke, get another joke free! at January 30, 2017 11:53 AM (Nwg0u)

958 RE: Home Depot - NYC seems to have essentially no big-box stores of any kind, including big contractor stores. I think all of NYC pretty much gets all their goods from Amazon, now. Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 30, 2017 03:02 PM (xeeHA) An employee at the Home Depot in Jersey City told me they get a lot of their business from people driving out from the city. They're right next to the Holland Tunnel. (I was looking for something, I forget what, and it turns out that that store doesn't carry it because it's not something the city dwellers need, so they don't stock it. Now I go there strictly for the roof top garden center.)

Posted by: JuJuBee at January 30, 2017 11:53 AM (dargh)

959 USA Today says mosque shooter is alleged anti-immigrant, but starts the article saying he is known to have expressed anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim thoughts on social media.  But they give no quotes.

Trudeau repeats their mantra (lie) that "diversity is our strength". 

Original rumors were that two Syrian refugees did it.  Now it is this one guy, other guy initially arrested was just a witness I guess.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 30, 2017 11:54 AM (nYqUL)

960 Pilot the hole with a bit the size of the shank of the screw (not the threads )

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 11:54 AM (0AwCy)

961 Well, he is almost 30, now.
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LOL.

According to that math, Ace started the smart military blog at 16.


Posted by: shibumi, who requires a cute kitty story stat! at January 30, 2017 11:55 AM (J5mC3)

962 Forget the tools, go for the calendars.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2017 04:33 PM


There were 2 versions of the Ridgid calendars. Sadly, neither are what they once were.

Posted by: Duncanthrax[/i] at January 30, 2017 11:57 AM (DMUuz)

963 In the book I finished reading lots of Russian Nobility officers were colonels in there early 20's.

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2017 11:58 AM (0AwCy)

964 I "liked" the Beatles and some hotdog restaurant on Facebook. Does that qualify as a manifesto?

Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at January 30, 2017 11:59 AM (zke7T)

965 Could have been worse, Ace. If you had swallowed a screw these people would never let you forget it.

Posted by: Eromero at January 30, 2017 12:01 PM (zLDYs)

966 837 Speaking of, I'm getting ready (two weeks or less) to remove and replace the old ceramic tile in our kitchen with something less slippery and dangerous. I've read and watched Internet instruction, but does the horde have any tips before I get started? Posted by: Moron Robbie at January 30, 2017 04:30 PM (Halhc) Eye protection, wonder bar, and a drilling hammer. I'd probably use an angle grinder and a brass cup brush to clean off the thinset and remaining grout, since the floor is on a slab. You're mostly going to pry, once you have an edge exposed. Stubborn bits get chiseled off. I'd start in the middle and work outwards.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 30, 2017 12:02 PM (di1hb)

967 so this backlashing quebec shooter is going to be worth about 500 dead for all the moralistic bullshit we're going to have to deal with.

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at January 30, 2017 12:03 PM (QkS7+)

968 Get a Dewalt 20 volt brushless drill motor.  Even if you never use it.....think "Tool Time" Tim Taylor.

Posted by: Mr. Khan at January 30, 2017 12:03 PM (3uOKP)

969 (k01AN) will be gone as soon as TB3K catches up. It's a bit lagged. People, please do not quote trollish comments like what was pasted.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at January 30, 2017 12:04 PM (d76uN)

970 Shelvey McShelverson

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot [/b][/i][/s][/u] at January 30, 2017 12:04 PM (bmii1)

971 It's also that what I thought would take a couple of hours wound up taking from six to 12:30 at night, with much, much, MUCH more straining than I imagined (or that was actually needed). With actual pilot holes I could have been in and done with those stud screws like ten minutes each. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:30 PM (8rNrN) It's completely normal, next time you'll be done in a quarter of the time. I just bought a house and the first time I do something it takes forever and is a little sloppy as I learn.

Posted by: Heralder at January 30, 2017 12:06 PM (oCER9)

972 Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 30, 2017 04:03 PM (WuRdh) --------- That is inspiring, Seawolf. Thanks!

Posted by: Lurkette at January 30, 2017 12:09 PM (jVlNS)

973 "so this backlashing quebec shooter is going to be worth about 500 dead for all the moralistic bullshit we're going to have to deal with. " Oh yeah, it's coming if that is how it turns out. The leftist whine machine will go from 11 to 15. It will be Trump's fault for the "climate of hate". Could go on and on but it isn't worth it. The left and the media will always be enemies, and moderates who are that squishy are never going to be worth much. Just have to stay tough and do what we feel is right. Obama and the left never flinched a nanosecond at the possibility of being blamed for the terrorist attacks we've already had on their watch.

Posted by: RM at January 30, 2017 12:12 PM (U3LtS)

974 Shelvey, er, Ace,

When you stated, "I'm putting together a (very small) home gym and I had to get rid of bookcases to fit it all in my very small apartment."

I think you meant, "I'm putting together a (very small) home gym and I had to get rid of bookcases to fit it around ALL MY GAAAINNNNNZZZ."

Posted by: JB at January 30, 2017 12:17 PM (5ntXg)

975 I think Ace has been reading some of those Sunday Morning Book Threads and been getting totes jealous of all those bookish mancaves and brass tack leather seats, saw a crowded market and cried, "Me too!!". (They are fun looking personal libraries.)

Posted by: Corona at January 30, 2017 12:24 PM (OjrER)

976 >>>gonna be a while before i live this one down

Eternity is a bitch.

Seriously don't sweat it.  I broke a $400 cutter the other day by turning it backwards.

And I do this shit for a living.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 30, 2017 12:25 PM (EUMr7)

977 >>>Shelvey McShelverson

New Twatter handles are awesome.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 30, 2017 12:26 PM (EUMr7)

978 Shelvey Mcshelveface

Posted by: Definitely not citizen khan at January 30, 2017 12:38 PM (LX5Ez)

979 BTW, one of the mosque shooting victims was a professor at the shooter's (and that of the "witness") Laval university. Another wacky coincidence, folks!

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at January 30, 2017 12:50 PM (nlbfN)

980 ace: "did you not read the post?" Good one, Ace. Always making with the funny.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 30, 2017 12:55 PM (1CroS)

981 ace: "I'm going to wait for my new drill/driver." As they say, "The right tool for the right job." It's what separates the pros from the couch potatoes.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 30, 2017 12:59 PM (1CroS)

982 Ace buys tool at Harbor Freight?

Posted by: freaked at January 30, 2017 01:03 PM (BO/km)

983 Tools that is. Actually that should be "Ace buys crap at Harbor Freight?"

Posted by: freaked at January 30, 2017 01:05 PM (BO/km)

984 249 um okay maybe I did have the drill set in the wrong position well... um. okay. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2017 03:23 PM (8rNrN) ----------------------------------------- Odd. I'd never realized you were blonde. *ducks*

Posted by: Brunette the Lurker 'Ette at January 30, 2017 01:40 PM (adsVM)

985 In our rush to sympathize for actual victims of the Quebec attack, let's not forget who the real fake victims are here: The #FakeNews Media. That's right. Ever since this story broke last night, they've been up all night, drinking black coffee and chain smoking, trying in vain to execute the Prime Directive: "We must find a way to use these dead Muslims as props to beat Trump over the head to satisfy our Trump-hate bloodlust!" They're finally working their fingers to the bone.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at January 30, 2017 01:44 PM (Ndje9)

986 Battery-powered tools? If it uses nickel-cadmium batteries and it was sitting in a drawer, they're only good for a couple of years and then the battery is shot. Get one of the new ones that have lithium batteries, the packs will be good for 5 or more years. I like DeWalt mostly because they're yellow, but they also work well.

Posted by: Socratease at January 30, 2017 02:40 PM (FqHs5)

987 I love you Ace, especially when you post little 'Ace Life Vignettes' like this.

I have a Bosch cordless drill and love it; don't recall the battery power rating however, (18V perhaps?), but when I had a boat I could screw and unscrew (take that as you will), shit all day on one battery - and it came with two.

Best of luck on your back - try Arnica gel for something that smells pretty good and topically relieves aches.

Posted by: atomicplaygirl (Gab: atomicplaygirl) at January 30, 2017 03:08 PM (Gim9y)

988
I thought the mosque attendees said there were 2 shooters before anyone was arrested.

Posted by: @votermom @vm at January 30, 2017 02:59 PM (Om16U)



One supposedly is being treated as a 'witness', (as in turning against the other guy), and I believe it was the non-white suspect. Make of that what you will.


Posted by: atomicplaygirl (Gab: atomicplaygirl) at January 30, 2017 03:10 PM (Gim9y)

989 A powered (usually cordless) driver operates at a different speed and torque than a drill. For a driver, look for versatility of how bits and extensions can be inserted. Also, consider how it can be charged. I like non-removable batteries. I don't have much to say about a drill, you can pretty much get any product and it will work.

Posted by: todd at January 30, 2017 03:45 PM (e6eob)

990 haven't laughed so hard in a long time really needed it too miserable day full of bad news I'm actually crying from laughing feel much better now thanks

Posted by: Bridgette at January 30, 2017 03:56 PM (coVoB)

991 Pre-willowed comment. In my experience, the hardest task has the simplest-sounding instructions. "Level the surface" "Adjust to fit"

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 30, 2017 04:14 PM (oyUDM)

992 Posted by: The Gipper Lives at January 30, 2017 06:44 PM (Ndje9)

Daily Mail has the headline about  the shooter, student who, 'like Trump and Le Pen'. As if they are responsible for him being a nutter.

Posted by: atomicplaygirl (Gab: atomicplaygirl) at January 30, 2017 04:34 PM (Gim9y)

993 Do not go to Harbor Freight for battery powered tools! Home Depot..... The Ryobi 18volt multi speed reversible drill is the best bang for the buck. When I was full time, Makita was my brand. Being semi retired, I switched to the Ryobi. Close to the same power, BuT less cost. I am 60 years old and still hanging shelves and building walls. Rock on! 29 years old....You are a young buck with plenty of years left in you. Suck it up, buttercup. Kidding!

Posted by: Roland at January 30, 2017 06:28 PM (P/SEF)

994 I'm 31, moved a washer and dryer up and down some stairs with my dad last weekend and it kicked my butt for two days... But I did just have open heart surgery this summer. Use it or lose it it goes away fast!

Posted by: KarlHungus at January 30, 2017 08:52 PM (FJDwZ)

995 "By the way, I thought I had a drill that could drill (and drive screws) through studs. I did not. What I had was two pieces of shit which, combined together, made up a collection of shit that took up more space in my tool drawer than a single piece of shit would." You need a sharp, strong bit as well. Could it be you have lath and plaster instead of drywall? That's tougher.

Posted by: CrankyYankee at January 31, 2017 04:18 AM (4fIM6)

996 I hate to mention this, but I've done it before. Check to make sure your 'reversible' drill is going the correct direction.

Posted by: Georg Felis at January 31, 2017 08:50 AM (IsckG)

997 Forget the battery operated power tools. You're an urbanite, where are you that there isn't a plug in that can be reached with 100ft extension cord? Just buy the corded stuff, it's cheaper and you don't have to worry about the care and charging of batteries. It also has a crap load more torque.

Posted by: DFCtomm at January 31, 2017 09:46 AM (Snj6e)

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