September 29, 2017

Poll: NFL's Favorability Cut Nearly In Half In a Week
— Ace

I don't know what it will take to convince corporations that changing their corporate mission to becoming Full Leftist Propaganda Outfits is contrary to their business interests.

But maybe this will be instructive.

The Morning Consult passed this press release to the Daily Caller:

NFL's Brand Favorability Drops To Lowest Point Since Morning Consult Started Tracking: The NFL’s net favorability has dropped from 30% on September 21 to 17% on September 28.

On September 21, 25% of Trump supporters said they had a very favorable view of the NFL and 11% had a very unfavorable view.

As of Sept 28, those numbers have dramatically changed with 33% of Trump supporters say they have a very unfavorable view of the NFL and 16% report having a very favorable view.

A little insight I got from an acquaintance (and I hope I'm not breaching trust by mentioning this):

Corporations make these political decisions based mainly on ad hoc advice from their PR and HR departments. Blue employees, in other words.

Who do not make their decisions based upon data -- like "What will our actual customers think about this?"

I hope this is not giving away any trade secret of his, but he wound up doing such a study for a company, actually looking into who a company's customers actually were, and discovered that, as far as he knew, he was the first person to look at a company's customers' political leanings in offering advice on whether to position the company to the left on a political issue, or simply remain neutral.

The first. Person. Ever. To Even. Bother. Performing data collection and analysis to inform the choice of whether a major major company should declare itself Social Justice Warrior.

The rest of the time, the decision was just made based upon gut feelings (and political preferences) of their liberal middle management castes, who, I imagine, based their rigorous analysis on what Rachel Maddow said the night before.

Meanwhile, a lot of blue employees are pretty determined to talk themselves out of a job. The Tennessee Titans' Delanie Walker had simple advice for those bothered by the SJW takeover of the NFL: just don't come to the games.

With ticket sales already down 17.9% from week 2 to week 3, I'd say a lot of people already figured out that one for themselves.

When the NFL players' salaries start getting cut because the league isn't making nearly as much money, do you think these special snowflakes will demand a federal bailout?

Don't dismiss that out of hand -- after all, the NFL is already sucking millions of dollars every year from taxpayers, who happily agree to build their stadiums and give them special tax incentives, all for those exciting new job opportunities in the lucrative careers of Seasonal Parking Lot Flashlight-Waving Traffic Engineers and Part-Time Hot Dog Assembly Managers.

This fiasco may, however, open the eyes of the public to a serious and generally unchecked issue: billionaire NFL owners sponging enormous amounts of money from taxpayers through crony capitalist schemes.

The fact is that a business that raked in $14 billion in revenue in 2016 is heavily subsidized by local, state, and federal money based on dubious claims about stimulating the economy.

Next time the NFL comes askin' you to vote in favor of a municipal bond to build their stadium for them, or give them some local land gratis, I suggest you #TakeTheKnee yourselves.


Posted by: Ace at 02:22 PM | Comments (281)
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1 Soon seen under a highway overpass in shoddy torn uniforms, the Green Bay Packers holding signs like "Will kneel for food."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 29, 2017 02:23 PM (fvXIX)

2 First

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 02:23 PM (EufUL)

3 Roomy

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 29, 2017 02:24 PM (89T5c)

4 aNtiFaL

Posted by: Hikaru at September 29, 2017 02:24 PM (Vevy5)

5 Calling corgis.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 29, 2017 02:24 PM (89T5c)

6 If there was only a way we could turn this into a "The Left Ruins Everything" campaign....

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 02:25 PM (EufUL)

7 I'll believe the NFL is serious about cleaning up this act when all the previously kneeling participants become the ones glad to be serving the hot dogs.

Posted by: thrill at September 29, 2017 02:25 PM (8K6Mb)

8 Wonder what they will do this Sunday - kneel and then stand? Or stand with linked arms ala vegas showgirls?

Posted by: IC at September 29, 2017 02:26 PM (a0IVu)

9 For a bunch of people who are payed to play a game, they really don't understand gamemanship at all.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 29, 2017 02:26 PM (fvXIX)

10 Maybe someone should remind Delanie Walker in 20 years when he's a drooling idiot that no one made him go out and hit his head repeatedly playing a kids game. He chose to do that himself.

Posted by: John Marston at September 29, 2017 02:26 PM (phoPy)

11 Ace, ace, ace. First, you got it all wrong, Trump normalized the protests by getting involved, now it's just an anti-Trump thing. Plus, he said "SOB", which pretty much kills his chances for re-election. Second, it's more than 10 miles from where you live. Third, there are so white supremacists, and stuff, so the protests are righteous, and who we are, you might say. (did I cover all the recent memes of dubious plausibility?)

Posted by: rhomboid at September 29, 2017 02:26 PM (NDlpU)

12 Why on Earth would anyone - ANYONE - but those living off the proceeds have a 'very favorable' impression of the NFL? Tax-sucking owners employing millionaire wifebeaters to run up and down the field for eleven minutes out of every four hours.

Posted by: JEM at September 29, 2017 02:26 PM (TppKb)

13 Wow! They're heading down into congressional approval territory.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 29, 2017 02:27 PM (mcI77)

14 This fiasco may, however, open the eyes of the public to a serious and generally unchecked issue: billionaire NFL owners sponging enormous amounts of money from taxpayers through crony capitalist schemes. The fact is that a business that raked in $14 billion in revenue in 2016 is heavily subsidized by local, state, and federal money based on dubious claims about stimulating the economy. This is one of many reasons why I think sportsball organizations can FOAD.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 02:27 PM (NWiLs)

15 $14 BILLION?! Doesn't sound "non-profit" to me.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, aka VA GOP Sucks at September 29, 2017 02:27 PM (2VN2E)

16 I am so Proud of my fellow Americans!

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (2zIj5)

17 Jason Whitlock was on with Varney on FBN this morning and basically said the same thing - players are being idiotic, leave politics out of your work place and this is bad for business.

Posted by: IC at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (a0IVu)

18 The first. Person. Ever. To Even. Bother. Performing data collection and analysis to inform the choice of whether a major major company should declare itself Social Justice Warrior. The rest of the time, the decision was just made based upon gut feelings (and political preferences) of their liberal middle management castes, who, I imagine, based their rigorous analysis on what Rachel Maddow said the night before. So the science is settled? They love science sexually? Hell, they make witch doctors look scientific.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (SRKgf)

19 I got nothing. I can't watch the NFL any less than 0. Maybe I could unwatch games I watched twenty years ago ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (fiGNd)

20 not a huge nfl fan to begin with, but yeah -- not good for the NFL

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 29, 2017 02:28 PM (wmaTe)

21 "I hope this is not giving away any trade secret of his, but he wound up doing such a study for a company, actually looking into who a company's customers actually were, and discovered that, as far as he knew, he was the first person to look at a company's customers' political leanings in offering advice on whether to position the company to the left on a political issue, or simply remain neutral." This doesn't surprise me at all.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 02:29 PM (NWiLs)

22 One of the arguments for taxpayer funding of stadiums is that big corporations will view your city favorably as some sort of status symbol and move into town providing zillions of jobs.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 29, 2017 02:29 PM (IqV8l)

23 Had baseball practice today, and the sense of the brothers was ... fuck the NFL. Sideways. With a pineapple. Wrapped in barbed wire. Coated in wasabi.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 02:29 PM (SRKgf)

24 I think they should #TakeTheKnee........in the groin.

Posted by: Abby Normal at September 29, 2017 02:29 PM (cQO95)

25 ANY Business that knowingly, intentionally, and continuously insults 50% of their customers is out of their fuckin minds or so left wing brainwashed they do not deserve to stay in business. It's a Darwin thing

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2017 02:29 PM (SjImc)

26 The strangest part of this whole thing??? The NFL has rules, and guidelines... BUT, not following the Guidelines can also get you penalized with fines, or loss of draft picks. There IS a very specific one on the National Anthem... that teams WILL be on the field... and will stand, not talking, with their helmet in their left hand... The guideline even STATES that they can be penalized with fines for this.... and explicitly says even on the first time it happens... So once more.... we see that not following YOUR OWN RULES, gets you in trouble...

Posted by: Don Q. at September 29, 2017 02:30 PM (NgKpN)

27 22 One of the arguments for taxpayer funding of stadiums is that big corporations will view your city favorably as some sort of status symbol and move into town providing zillions of jobs. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 29, 2017 07:29 PM (IqV8l) And yet where are the studies that indicate that? Moreover, if it's that important to the big corporations, let THEM bankroll stadium construction. Makes sense, no?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 02:30 PM (SRKgf)

28 The MSM ( the big 5 or 6 corporations who own them all) will get a huge bailout which will trickle down to organizations like the NFL and NBA and others . It's coming. Bank on it.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at September 29, 2017 02:30 PM (XFue2)

29 Preseason hockey is on, and beisbol is still going. Fuck the NFL in general and Goodell particular.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 29, 2017 02:30 PM (s28y4)

30 Corporations make these political decisions based mainly on ad hoc advice from their PR and HR departments. Blue employees, in other words. Who do not make their decisions based upon data -- like "What will our actual customers think about this?" Known. Also some examples: Target. Netflix a few years back. Wasn't always this way though. Like everything else, it changed to the 'elite' making decisions for the rubes.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 02:31 PM (2zIj5)

31 25 ANY Business that knowingly, intentionally, and continuously insults 50% of their customers is out of their fuckin minds or so left wing brainwashed they do not deserve to stay in business. It's a Darwin thing Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2017 07:29 PM (SjImc) Might want to point that out to the GOPe Congress critters...

Posted by: Don Q. at September 29, 2017 02:31 PM (NgKpN)

32 Drew Brees says they will kneel before anthem and stand for song in London this Sunday. I guess they really are that f*cking stupid.

Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 29, 2017 02:31 PM (7DG+y)

33 They're really not used to blowback.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 29, 2017 02:31 PM (oVJmc)

34 Looks like we're going to have to pass another bailout. TOO BIG TO FAIL

Posted by: Paul Ryan at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (mcI77)

35 9 For a bunch of people who are payed to play a game, they really don't understand gamemanship at all. Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 29, 2017 07:26 PM (fvXIX) Let's face it, they're largely recruited from the cognitive dregs of Club 85. As is apparent as soon as they open their mouths.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (SRKgf)

36 I've been reading a lot about professional sports this week, I don't watch any of them, but there kept being little comments that people would write about them all being fixed. So I finally looked it up. Like how would they do it, etc. So after reading several sites, yep, it's fixed. All of them. They are 'entertainment' organizations and so can do whatever the hell they want. You really have to be a fool to pay money to watch them.

Posted by: The Media Suxs at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (t/9G+)

37 A recent case of "no sale" to NFL subsidies was San Diego, where the voters did not approve a deal for a stadium to keep the Chargettes in town (a majority actually approved, but a super-majority is required on such measures). Impossible to say for sure, but the thing might have passed if the ownership wasn't so unpopular, and deservedly so (the Spanos family really does seem like it was a one-generation thing, the father made the fortune, the son and grandson now running things demonstrate no competence in anything connected to football). Way things are going, probably the last intelligent, or at least not disastrously stupid, vote that will prevail on any topic in any urban area of CA.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (NDlpU)

38 ANY Business that knowingly, intentionally, and continuously insults 50% of their customers is out of their fuckin minds or so left wing brainwashed they do not deserve to stay in business. It's a Darwin thing Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2017 07:29 PM (SjImc) Might want to point that out to the GOPe Congress critters... Posted by: Don Q. at September 29, 2017 07:31 PM (NgKpN) I think a few of them were sent a message after the Alabama Primary.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (SjImc)

39 See ifs one week or two

Posted by: Skip at September 29, 2017 02:32 PM (ghofu)

40 Why don't they just stick their fingers in each other's bum for a show of "unity?"

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 02:33 PM (EufUL)

41 Come on people now smile on your brother everybody get together and try to love one another right now.

Posted by: Aaron Rodgers' Elbow at September 29, 2017 02:33 PM (Tyii7)

42 Drew Brees says they will kneel before anthem and stand for song in London this Sunday. I guess they really are that f*cking stupid. Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 29, 2017 07:31 PM (7DG+y) Brees really sounds like a fuckin idiot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2017 02:33 PM (SjImc)

43 Delanie Walker's career is pretty much run, isn't it? 11 years, he's 33. Is he even going to be playing much longer, and is he just kissing ass to get an ESPN gig?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 29, 2017 02:34 PM (oVJmc)

44 And Packers fans should be ashamed of themselves. They are owners. They should have skipped the games. Then again, as owners, they have an interest in making sure the suckers still keep paying to watch the 'entertainment' games.

Posted by: The Media Suxs at September 29, 2017 02:34 PM (t/9G+)

45 I am surprised at how unwilling I am to kiss and make up with the NFL now that they've come crawling back. I want to see some people fired.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 29, 2017 02:34 PM (Nwg0u)

46 Why don't they just stick their fingers in each other's bum for a show of "unity?" Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 07:33 PM (EufUL) Leave Michael Sam out of this. Which reminds me, who invented the T formation anyway? I strongly suspect that that dude was a "confirmed bachelor."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 02:34 PM (SRKgf)

47 Since I gave up on pro football a couple of years ago, no personal dog in this hunt. I equate the value, personally, of sports, all sports, the same way as I do any entertainment., entertainment, an option, not a necessity.

Posted by: kraken at September 29, 2017 02:35 PM (pL6Vz)

48 45 I am surprised at how unwilling I am to kiss and make up with the NFL now that they've come crawling back. I want to see some people fired. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 29, 2017 07:34 PM (Nwg0u) Me too. Starting with everybody who took a knee, or locked arms. OUT.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 02:35 PM (SRKgf)

49 I think we just need to text everything in the NFL does, Salaries tickets beer sales bonds the fund the stadiums everything.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 02:35 PM (dKiJG)

50 For a bunch of people who are payed to play a game, they really don't understand gamemanship at all. Posted by: Anna Puma Let's face it, they're largely recruited from the cognitive dregs of Club 85. As is apparent as soon as they open their mouths. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara Their definition of gamesmanship is "different"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 29, 2017 02:36 PM (IqV8l)

51 These guys would buy tulip bulbs in Amsterdam in January 1637.

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2017 02:36 PM (LAe3v)

52 NFL players, who are lucky if they possess an IQ over 70, will stand for God Save the Queen at Wembley this weekend. Salute the country that colonized Africa, yet sh*t on the country that blessed you with this opportunity. F*ck each and every player...

Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 29, 2017 02:36 PM (7DG+y)

53 On the bright side, the Cubs are 14-3 over their last 17 games.  Not quite as good as Cleveland, but hey - what a rematch that would be.


NGU - Your Yankees are in the Wild Card spot, yes?

Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 02:36 PM (lwiT4)

54 Next season there will not be an anthem

Posted by: Batterup at September 29, 2017 02:37 PM (mtGE/)

55 Way things are going, probably the last intelligent, or at least not disastrously stupid, vote that will prevail on any topic in any urban area of CA. Posted by: rhomboid at September 29, 2017 07:32 PM (NDlpU) Yeah, I was pleased by that too. And enjoying the travails of the Chargettes in LA drawing crowds too small to play half court basketball.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 02:37 PM (SRKgf)

56 next time the NFL comes askin' you to vote in favor of a municipal bond to build their stadium for them, or give them some local land gratis, I suggest you #TakeTheKnee yourselves.

We already did. But thank you!

San Diego Charger Fan!



Posted by: ChargerFan at September 29, 2017 02:37 PM (UVwTA)

57 Took all the apps off my phone, the favorites off the internet, haven't listened to sports talk radio all week, still don't know who the Pats are playing on Sunday. Baseball playoffs are coming up, hockey season starts this week. I won't miss the NFL.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 29, 2017 02:37 PM (O5Q3r)

58 22 One of the arguments for taxpayer funding of stadiums is that big corporations will view your city favorably as some sort of status symbol and move into town providing zillions of jobs. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 29, 2017 07:29 PM (IqV8l) Which never comes to fruition. It's all bullshit.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (NWiLs)

59 I've been going to NFL games for 15 years and have seen 30 of the 32 teams; bought tickets to catch the last two this year. I'd been waffling but figured wtf, may as well complete the set. Now that these stupid frs won't shut up, I'm thisclose to disputing the charges on my cc even tho I doubt I'll get the refund.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (DanmA)

60 I just got some horrible news. The building that Sparky's in Marathon, FL was in has been condemned. Where will I get my Buffalo Shrimp now? Please all take a knee and join my in a moment of silent prayer and reflection.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (/tuJf)

61 Doing this stupid kneel/stand/arm-lock thing - OVERSEAS - pretty much sums up the intelligence, marketing savvy, and civic mindedness of anyone doing it. And says similar things about "fans" who will put up with it.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (NDlpU)

62 And enjoying the travails of the Chargettes in LA drawing crowds too small to play half court basketball. Folks in St. Louis are laughing over the Rams.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (oVJmc)

63 And Packers fans should be ashamed of themselves.

They are owners. They should have skipped the games.

Then again, as owners, they have an interest in making sure the suckers still keep paying to watch the 'entertainment' games.

Posted by: The Media Suxs at September 29, 2017 07:34 PM (t/9G+)

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Well, hello!  I hope you have a very pleasant evening as well.


Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (lwiT4)

64 Since this is a football thread, does anyone have an opinion regarding the allegations that the Oakland Raiders offensive line decided that they were going to let their quarterback "stand out there alone if he won't kneel with us" last weekend? QB sacked numerous times, Raiders lost the game, rumor has it that the other players threw the game to teach the QB a lesson.

Posted by: Boots at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (EBwPV)

65 Their definition of gamesmanship is "different" Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 29, 2017 07:36 PM (IqV8l) For one thing, "gamesmanship" has too many syllables for them. For another, they come from a culture that prizes talking shit, taunting, showboating, and cheap shotting people, so the concept as well as the word is foreign to them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 02:38 PM (SRKgf)

66 F*ck each and every player... Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 29, 2017 07:36 PM (7DG+y) I mentally read your posts in a "Lord Alfred Hayes" accent. It's pretty damn funny.

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (fiGNd)

67 >>>Second, it's more than 10 miles from where you live. That never gets old, LOL. I bet none of you live within 10 miles of Pearl Harbor!

Posted by: Max Power at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (q177U)

68 I meant to Tax the crap out of them, not Text

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (dKiJG)

69 The virtue signaling will continue until morale improves.

Posted by: The xNFL at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (Tyii7)

70 32 Drew Brees says they will kneel before anthem and stand for song in London this Sunday. I guess they really are that f*cking stupid. Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 29, 2017 07:31 PM (7DG+y) They can't bear to apologize. They can't bear to admit they were wrong. Pride goeth before the fall....

Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: grab the Wild Card, Crew! at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (P8951)

71 I went to the Flyers game last night - no nonsense for the Anthem. We have a special connection to "God Bless America" & the Anthem here - I was once shushed by Hall of Famer Bernie Parent when I was talking as the Anthem started.

Posted by: josephistan at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (ANIFC)

72 17 Jason Whitlock was on with Varney on FBN this morning and basically said the same thing - players are being idiotic, leave politics out of your work place and this is bad for business. Posted by: IC at September 29, 2017 07:28 PM (a0IVu) You can bet your sweet ass that Michael Jordan is a lib. But he's also a very sharp cookie by not telegraphing it one way or the other. As it should be. Profit!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (mbhDw)

73 I really didn't think it was possible for Dan Snyder, the owner of the Redskins, to be more despised.  I was wrong.

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (LAe3v)

74 I've been a fairly casual football viewer for years. IOW I gave up on the Vikings long, long ago. But I realized that it was no longer fun to simply turn on a game and watch while doing the things one does around ones house on a Sunday. I was almost constantly getting irritated about something: John Gruden's idiocy; Buck and Aikman sharing their Voice Immodulation with the world, time outs, commercials, shitty, shitty Sooper Bowl half-time shows. Just ain't working. And all this now, made the cold turkey decision oh-so easy. Plus I don't respond well to some asshole athlete in a 3000 dollar suit calling me a cracker h8r before rolling away in his fucking Escalade. Kinda pisses me off.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (sGSvK)

75 Don't forget - Kaepernick started this at the behest of his Islamic girlfriend EndGame - No Anthem Just wait.

Posted by: Batterup at September 29, 2017 02:39 PM (mtGE/)

76 also, to your point, ace -- I was kind of a fly on the wall in a business meeting of a medium-sized publicly traded company where one of these SJW-type topics got brought up. As you say, the public relations department ran the meeting, suggesting going along with a SJW-type thing (I really can't be more specific without possibly violating my NDA). Long story short, everyone was entirely onboard until one of the older, didn't-give-a-shit-type sales directors spoke up and said, "well, er, did anyone poll our customers on this kind of stuff? I mean, what happens if we alienate a large number of our customer base? How will taking a stand impact the company's sales and my team's ability to sell?" And, I swear to god -- everyone in the room sat there in stunned silence. I really don't think that had occurred to them. Maybe I'm not giving them enough credit, but it was ... surreal. Long story short, the company ended up doing the smart thing and saying out of politics. But I can absolutely 100% see how a company would make the wrong decision on something like that.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 29, 2017 02:40 PM (wmaTe)

77

 

Drew Brees says they will kneel before anthem and stand for song in London this Sunday. I guess they really are that f*cking stupid.
Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 29, 2017 07:31 PM (7DG+y)

 

 

I don't get it.You're trying to expand American football into a country that doesn't want it and you think American players protesting their own flag on foreign soil will help.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 29, 2017 02:40 PM (lKyWE)

78 When I first got on the interwebs back in '94, I couldn't wait to find like minded fans of Ayn Rand -- and discovered an IRC (Internet Relay Chat) group that met regularly to discuss her ideas.

It was there that I first learned of the existence of "Socially Responsible" (read: Environmental Leftist Wacko) Mutual Funds and we enjoyed mocking them.  I remember proposing that, were I in the business, I'd create a "Socially Irresponsible" Mutual Fund.

I could never have imagined how insane our country would become in a mere 25 years, but the clues and writing were certainly on the wall back then.

Posted by: ShainS [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at September 29, 2017 02:40 PM (BiLU+)

79 JackStraw as I recall moron Aviator will also be in mourning, he also liked that place.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 29, 2017 02:40 PM (NDlpU)

80 Sunday to bring awareness to prostate cancer they should all give each other prostate exams that'll do it!

Posted by: vizzy at September 29, 2017 02:40 PM (s5Khz)

81   I gave up on the Vikings long, long ago.
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Well, to be fair, who hasn't?

Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 02:41 PM (lwiT4)

82 75 Don't forget - Kaepernick started this at the behest of his Islamic girlfriend EndGame - No Anthem Just wait. Posted by: Batterup at September 29, 2017 07:39 PM (mtGE/) Prediction: No anthem? End Game.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 29, 2017 02:41 PM (mbhDw)

83 "I think we just need to text everything in the NFL does, Salaries tickets beer sales bonds the fund the stadiums everything." Read Daniel Greenfield's article about the illegal monopoly the NFL has got going on and how all the politicians are, of course, on the gravy train. It's just one yuge racket. From beginning to end. It really explains why there has been no rational movement out of the NFL to date. They are like a legalized mafia.

Posted by: The Media Suxs at September 29, 2017 02:42 PM (t/9G+)

84 The NFL expects all this to blow over or cool down in a few weeks. Then the fans will return. It historically goes that way. There's one key difference between then and now. Even if your anger does subside, when you tune back in, the behavior is still occurring, the flag disrespect, so you get angry all over again. At least, that's my current noodling on it.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 02:42 PM (2zIj5)

85 somewhere I thought I saw Budweiser was going to be in discussion with the NFL over the anti-America stance.  of course Bud is now foreign owned, as I understand it.  For basic beer (or anything else) ... there is no reason to buy foreign owned products, especially if they sell at a premium.

the Clydesdale commercials are nice, honoring 9/1 and all that patriotic stuff ... but FOREIGN owned.  This is what happened with globalism and the Wall Street easy leveraged money crowd.  Everything gets sold ... to enemies or semi-friends that are themselves just part of the globalist machine.

The stock/bond market has become a Ponzi scheme ... when they don't buy our bonds we just buy them out of thin air .. the fed writes a check with nothing in their account.  (QE)  And they are almost certainly doing the same with our private markets (stock and bond) as Greenspan suggested would be just fine.

Just get people to keep working, and manipulate the currency/markets ... oh, and always bail out the corrupt 50:1 leveraged billionaires, and ignore US law in favor of London International Bank "law", which says it is fine for HSBC to launder billions for the drug cartels ... just have to keep the transfer of real wealth going ... transfer to those that play in fiat currency, underwritten by America itself.

anyway ... yeah .. corporate America is now corporate conglomerate globalist mafia ... destroying sense of national pride is part of the game.  Fluckers.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 29, 2017 02:42 PM (yKAUL)

86 >>JackStraw as I recall moron Aviator will also be in mourning, he also liked that place. It's an incalculable loss to the nation. Let Puerto Rico sink below the waves, send the troops to Sparky's!

Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2017 02:42 PM (/tuJf)

87 77 Drew Brees says they will kneel before anthem and stand for song in London this Sunday. I guess they really are that f*cking stupid. Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 29, 2017 07:31 PM (7DG+y) I don't get it.You're trying to expand American football into a country that doesn't want it and you think American players protesting their own flag on foreign soil will help. Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 29, 2017 07:40 PM (lKyWE) How about instead of London, they can play on Aleppo? I'm sure the kneeling will be appreciated there con gusto.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 29, 2017 02:43 PM (mbhDw)

88 Just like target's CEO basically came out and said the whole bathroom thing was not his decision. I do think in a lot of these cases, some 25 year old running Twitter make some proclamation and then upper management has to abide by it lest they be called a homophobe/bigot. But the NFL clusterfuck is totally on Goodells shoulders.

Posted by: Maritime at September 29, 2017 02:43 PM (G/kZc)

89 Pipe in Jim Cornelison for all anthems at all events.  Problem solved.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 02:43 PM (lwiT4)

90 Long story short, the company ended up doing the smart thing and saying out of politics. But I can absolutely 100% see how a company would make the wrong decision on something like that. Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 29, 2017 07:40 PM (wmaTe) I've discovered that even if an entity isn't left-leaning, they still tend to make decisions in a bubble, and nobody wants to be the turd in the punchbowl who questions the assumptions of the highest-ranking suit in the conference room. Some very dumb decisions get made this way.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 02:44 PM (NWiLs)

91 NGU - Your Yankees are in the Wild Card spot, yes? Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 07:36 PM (lwiT4) Yes, they have the home game against the Twins. But one game is always such a crap shoot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2017 02:45 PM (SjImc)

92 This fiasco may, however, open the eyes of the public to a serious and generally unchecked issue: billionaire NFL owners sponging enormous amounts of money from taxpayers through crony capitalist schemes. The fact is that a business that raked in $14 billion in revenue in 2016 is heavily subsidized by local, state, and federal money based on dubious claims about stimulating the economy. Everybody is always complaining about Elon Musk getting government subsidies, but he's small potatoes compared to some other industries, like this one.

Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2017 02:45 PM (sdi6R)

93 58 22 One of the arguments for taxpayer funding of stadiums is that big corporations will view your city favorably as some sort of status symbol and move into town providing zillions of jobs. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 29, 2017 07:29 PM (IqV8l) Which never comes to fruition. It's all bullshit. Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 07:38 PM (NWiLs) Les Wexner built a city they he wanted to and he set aside huge tracts of land for businesses to come. The "Village" gives companies all kinds of tax breaks and they have come flocking in, Hell FaceBook is building a 200 Million dollar building. They want tax breaks not culture, and we came close to getting SEARS to leave, but it doesn't matter they will go tits up sooner or later.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 02:45 PM (dKiJG)

94 JS, did you get Boston tix?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 29, 2017 02:45 PM (PUmDY)

95 Was just debating a "new-age" Pastor in my community online who stated "I didn't really care about the issue, but now that Trump spoke out and said I shouldn't, I think it I would kneel too." I asked him if he felt that it was proper to base your decisions and sense of right and wrong based on rejecting what someone else said instead of just reconciling every action on its own merits. He went into complete meltdown.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 02:45 PM (GQn43)

96 Chargers can't even sellout a 28,000 seat soccer stadium in Los Angeles. LA is setting itself up for an NFL boondoggle and an Olympics boondoggle all at once.

Posted by: mark1971 at September 29, 2017 02:45 PM (xPl2J)

97 When you are watching a 'entertainment' program where a black male is crawling around on the field and imitating a peeing dog, I'd say it time to re-evaluate your hobbies.

Posted by: The Media Suxs at September 29, 2017 02:45 PM (t/9G+)

98 I remember proposing that, were I in the business, I'd create a "Socially Irresponsible" Mutual Fund. That's already been done. I remember one which invested in alcohol, tobacco and firearm stocks. Don't know of it still exists.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 29, 2017 02:45 PM (IqV8l)

99 But one game is always such a crap shoot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2017 07:45 PM (SjImc)

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Very true.  Flip of the coin, really.


Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 02:46 PM (lwiT4)

100 32 Drew Brees says they will kneel before anthem and stand for song in London this Sunday. I guess they really are that f*cking stupid. Posted by: Lord Alfred Hayes at September 29, 2017 07:31 PM (7DG+y) Drew, I know you're a football player, and so probably desperately stupid, but the only knee you should take should be in the minute or two of a half or a game, and that when your team is up. Otherwise, no. Don't do it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 02:46 PM (SRKgf)

101 I've discovered that even if an entity isn't left-leaning, they still tend to make decisions in a bubble, and nobody wants to be the turd in the punchbowl who questions the assumptions of the highest-ranking suit in the conference room. Some very dumb decisions get made this way. Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 07:44 PM (NWiLs) I consider it a perk.

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 29, 2017 02:46 PM (fiGNd)

102 >>JS, did you get Boston tix? No. It looks like I am going to be out of town when they are coming unfortunately.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2017 02:46 PM (/tuJf)

103 my grouch at the NFL has little to do with politics, everything to do with an over-priced manipulated panem et circenses.

Posted by: Dave of Dodge at September 29, 2017 02:46 PM (VeBbo)

104 88 Just like target's CEO basically came out and said the whole bathroom thing was not his decision. I do think in a lot of these cases, some 25 year old running Twitter make some proclamation and then upper management has to abide by it lest they be called a homophobe/bigot. But the NFL clusterfuck is totally on Goodells shoulders. Posted by: Maritime at September 29, 2017 07:43 PM (G/kZc) I just don't think the country-club republican / limousine liberal types who are professional c-level people give much thought to any of this, but instead delegate it to their PR people, who are educated professionals who know best. And of course, the PR people go by what the saw on john oliver and their facebook feeds. Then everyone is at a loss to explain why sales are down.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 29, 2017 02:46 PM (wmaTe)

105 EndGame - No Anthem Just wait. Posted by: Batterup at September 29, 2017 07:39 PM (mtGE/) End End Game - No NFL.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 02:46 PM (SRKgf)

106 No anthem? End Game. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 29, 2017 07:41 PM (mbhDw) They are playing the long-game. People are already capitulating to "just stop playing the Anthem" so they can go back to their Soma-Induced comas. It is about destroying the tangible and intangible heritage of the United States. The NFL players are just cannon fodder.

Posted by: Batterup at September 29, 2017 02:47 PM (mtGE/)

107 95 Was just debating a "new-age" Pastor in my community online who stated "I didn't really care about the issue, but now that Trump spoke out and said I shouldn't, I think it I would kneel too." I asked him if he felt that it was proper to base your decisions and sense of right and wrong based on rejecting what someone else said instead of just reconciling every action on its own merits. He went into complete meltdown. Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 07:45 PM (GQn43) He's not an editor at "National Review" is he?

Posted by: josephistan at September 29, 2017 02:47 PM (ANIFC)

108 EndGame - No Anthem Just wait. Posted by: Batterup at September 29, 2017 07:39 PM (mtGE/) "Supposedly" FOX will not show the National Anthems on TV.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2017 02:48 PM (SjImc)

109 84 The NFL expects all this to blow over or cool down in a few weeks. Then the fans will return. It historically goes that way.

I wonder.  Historically, the disruptions were about money and power.  Everyone understands that.  This time, it's about how most of the game's players hate you.  That will tend to detract from the experience. 

I also think a lot of people who can't afford it spend tons of money on football because they think that's what they're supposed to do.  They think everyone's having a grand old time watching the games, so they want in on the fun. 

My guess is that this episode will at least partly break the spell.  People will figure out that they really don't miss it all that much, and it's nice to have the time and money to spend on other things. 

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2017 02:48 PM (LAe3v)

110 I was a so-so Bronco's fan. I would watch if they were on, but wouldn't really go out of my way. I watched the first game of the season. I have not watched an NFL game since. My wife is a bigger fan, if she wants to watch the game, I'll come get in on the Food Thread. Besides, I've always been a bigger baseball fan than a football fan, so Go Rockies!

Posted by: Old Blue [/b] at September 29, 2017 02:48 PM (gEvQ8)

111 The NFL will double down. That is what progs do. When they think they have you on the ropes, double down. Now the NFL knows how many people they have to convince are in the minority and the wrong side.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 02:48 PM (BoMuO)

112 Trump's "make em stand" tweet was rock solid business advice

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 29, 2017 02:48 PM (h1jJh)

113 Boots - have no idea, but it sounds plausible - and I hope to HELL it's true. Because that's one thing that would make this even better - intra-squad dissension leading to actual on-field problems and game-changing plays. Perfect, hilarious! All because the delusional race obsessions that have already consumed most of one community must be pressed until the entire society collapses. On the business idiocy in stepping into political questions: it's obviously rampant, and just as obviously not based on anything more than arrogance and authoritarian impulses. Look at the tech CEOs (many of the most famous). These people are about as "American" in mindset as Viacheslav Molotov or Reinhard Heydrich. Vile, alien values and civic outlooks. Their damage to society vastly, vastly outweighs the value of anything they produce (much of which is in the "toy" category anyway).

Posted by: rhomboid at September 29, 2017 02:48 PM (NDlpU)

114 >>End End Game - No NFL. Yea, that would indeed be the end of the NFL.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2017 02:48 PM (/tuJf)

115 88 Just like target's CEO basically came out and said the whole bathroom thing was not his decision. Who the fuck's decision WAS it then? And what does he do all day? Play solitaire and watch porn on his computer? Isn't he supposed to be in charge? Sounds like the board needs to kick some ass. Unless the board made that decision, in which case the institutional shareholders need to kick some ass.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 02:48 PM (SRKgf)

116 When you cheered on a guy who tortured animals or are now watching him as a sports analyst on Fox Sports, I'd say it's time you re-evaluated your hobbies.

Posted by: The Media Suxs at September 29, 2017 02:48 PM (t/9G+)

117 Conspiracy theory time... if attendance cratered and the league started hemorrhaging money, could this be a plot to declare bankruptcy and wipe out all those expensive contracts?

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 29, 2017 02:49 PM (4+7G3)

118 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 29, 2017 07:40 PM (wmaTe) In college, in my business classes, the 'getting customer feedback' piece was huge! Drilled into us. We even had projects centered around the concept. So when companies started making these independent decisions without sampling customer sentiment, I was thunderstruck. And not just on political stuff, but pricing. And Trial Balloons. Yea, we were taught to use those too. Wth happened?! People can't even get their business modeling right.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 02:49 PM (2zIj5)

119 End game is getting us to replace the anthem with a Beyoncé song.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 02:50 PM (BoMuO)

120 And of course, the PR people go by what the saw on john oliver and their facebook feeds. Then everyone is at a loss to explain why sales are down. Posted by: Harry Paratestes _____ And the big ad agencies/PR Firms are located in deep blue enclaves where like 90% of the people are die hard Leftists. But let's be honest, very few organizations ever get much wrath when they piss off conservatives. But cross the Left and the media will make sure the place is drummed out of business. Maybe the NFL can finally be scalp we collect.

Posted by: Maritime at September 29, 2017 02:50 PM (G/kZc)

121 "Supposedly" FOX will not show the National Anthems on TV.

And then everything will just...go away!

Posted by: tu3031 at September 29, 2017 02:50 PM (O5Q3r)

122

 

There's one key difference between then and now. Even if your anger does subside, when you tune back in, the behavior is still occurring, the flag disrespect, so you get angry all over again.

 

 

Yes and also when fans get angry at the NFL it's because one of it's players has murdered somebody or been arrested for beating his wife and you can convince yourself that the majority of the guys in the league don't do those things so you come back.But when it appears that the entire league doesn't care about the country or the flag it's an entirely diffirent ball game (pardon the pun)

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 29, 2017 02:50 PM (lKyWE)

123 "When the NFL players' salaries start getting cut because the league isn't making nearly as much money, do you think these special snowflakes will demand a federal bailout?" When their next contract is threatened by a single dollar due to anti-American pinheadery, they and their agents will either scream like stuck pigs at their non-NFL "brothers-in-arms" to shut up about racism/police or develop laryngitis and act like they don't know BLM/BAMN anymore. It's easy to preen when there's no cost. Well, free speech has a cost and these dopes are finally understanding a price. Naturally they fold.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 29, 2017 02:51 PM (H8S+R)

124 Drew Brees isn't stupid, and he ought to know better.

Posted by: goodluckduck at September 29, 2017 02:51 PM (yqvys)

125 Men Without Chests Brains by C. S. Lewis

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 02:51 PM (EufUL)

126 The NFL should just get Miley Cyrus to sing the Anthem at every game.  It would be unrecognizable, so nobody would know when to kneel.

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2017 02:51 PM (LAe3v)

127 34 Looks like we're going to have to pass another bailout.
TOO BIG TO FAIL

****

Some of these businesses need to fail for the greater good.  They will be restructured as more efficient companies, become obsolete or be replaced by something better.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 29, 2017 02:51 PM (h1jJh)

128 107 95 Was just debating a "new-age" Pastor in my community online who stated "I didn't really care about the issue, but now that Trump spoke out and said I shouldn't, I think it I would kneel too." I asked him if he felt that it was proper to base your decisions and sense of right and wrong based on rejecting what someone else said instead of just reconciling every action on its own merits. He went into complete meltdown. Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 07:45 PM (GQn43) He's not an editor at "National Review" is he? Posted by: josephistan at September 29, 2017 07:47 PM (ANIFC) No, but he did bang a parishioner's wife. The church took quick, decisive action....and ejected the parishioner and kept the pastor and wife. He doesn't really like when I bring that up because it was "like 8 years ago".

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 02:51 PM (GQn43)

129 The Tennessee Titans' Delanie Walker had simple advice for those bothered by the SJW takeover of the NFL: just don't come to the games. ++++ The geniuses at the NFL assure me that their players have the right to express themselves, so this should be totes ok with them.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 29, 2017 02:52 PM (FUu/Z)

130 We really do need a frank national conversation on race in this country, but not the one liberals think. We need to tell the bruthas that at this point, their problems are almost entirely of their own making. Wrestle with a cop for his gun and get shot? That's on you, sport. I don't care if you're blond and blue, and belong to a country club, you do that, you're gonna get smoked. So it's time to pull your socks, get your fingers out of your asses, and make something of yourselves. Graduate high school, get a job, stay out of trouble. In short, adopt the much deprecated but invaluable bourgeois culture.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 02:52 PM (SRKgf)

131 Does anyone know specifically what they are kneeling for?  Or linking for? Is it awareness?  What is it?  All I hear is unity and love and argle bargle.  What are the specifics?  Is it white cops killing black men, like Kapernick was about?  Or is it something else?  Do they even know?

Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 02:52 PM (lwiT4)

132 Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 07:44 PM (NWiLs) I consider it a perk. Posted by: ScoggDog at September 29, 2017 07:46 PM (fiGNd) Heh. By the way, how's the new gig going? I heard the boss is a real ball buster.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 02:52 PM (NWiLs)

133 Given that Brees plays for NO he probably fears for his family's lives if he doesn't compromise.

Posted by: John Marston at September 29, 2017 02:52 PM (phoPy)

134 Drew Brees isn't stupid, and he ought to know better. Posted by: goodluckduck at September 29, 2017 07:51 PM (yqvys) No, he's stupid, that is pretty obvious. Just because he has been trained to see a second receiver and has a good arm, does not make him smart. Ever see a chimp fling shit?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2017 02:53 PM (SjImc)

135 Once a company makes a huge pile of cash, and becomes a near-monopoly, they think they can afford to lose 20% or so of their customers. Just so long as they can keep the "proper" people as customers. Some money is greener than others.

Posted by: josephistan at September 29, 2017 02:53 PM (ANIFC)

136 >>>Next season there will not be an anthem<<<

I'm hoping they all link arms and boogie down to Prince's 1999 before every game.

Posted by: Fritz at September 29, 2017 02:53 PM (imd6s)

137 Who the fuck's decision WAS it then? And what does he do all day? Play solitaire and watch porn on his computer? Isn't he supposed to be in charge? Sounds like the board needs to kick some ass. Unless the board made that decision, in which case the institutional shareholders need to kick some ass. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara ________ Like Ace said, basically some PR person did it. The CEO admitted it cost the company a lot of money, but didn't want to reverse it after the fact. So some 28 year old cunt probably cost the company a few hundred million dollars giving her "hot take" on some issue she saw on her Twitter feed.

Posted by: Maritime at September 29, 2017 02:53 PM (G/kZc)

138 Did...did they really think people would put their football team before country?

Posted by: Tim Owens at September 29, 2017 02:53 PM (2KjV/)

139 Drew Brees says they will kneel before anthem and stand for song in London this Sunday. Thanks, Drew! I thought this might all blow over, but that will fire it up again, ya schmuck.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 29, 2017 02:53 PM (oVJmc)

140 The teams will make the cities bail them out, at least. You paid 500 million for this stadium! If the team goes bust it will be unused! Think of the lost business downtown!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 02:53 PM (BoMuO)

141
I have to admit something, although not watching the nfl, I have been getting some enormous gratification out of abusing the kneelers.

That said the stupid nfl still thinks this is a pr problem, not getting that they told 95% of football fans to F Off.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 29, 2017 02:53 PM (r+sAi)

142 The church took quick, decisive action....and ejected the parishioner and kept the pastor and wife.

He doesn't really like when I bring that up because it was "like 8 years ago".
Posted by: Malcolm Tent


Why on earth would you be a congregant for a man like that or a church that would have him?

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2017 02:53 PM (LAe3v)

143 No, but he did bang a parishioner's wife.

The church took quick, decisive action....and ejected the parishioner and kept the pastor and wife.
===========================


Wait.  Wait.  What?

Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 02:53 PM (lwiT4)

144

 

The NFL should just get Miley Cyrus to sing the Anthem at every game. It would be unrecognizable, so nobody would know when to kneel.

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2017 07:51 PM (LAe3v)

 

 

As long as she doesn't twerk because that would be against NFL rules

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 29, 2017 02:54 PM (lKyWE)

145 Really glad you mentioned the exciting "jobs" these stadiums create. They're always breathlessly reported as creating "300 jerbs!" in the local press and 98% of them are minimum wage. They're not even full time jobs. The people running the stadium make decent money but it doesn't take many to do that job and I ought to know because the father of a friend of mine when I was a kid ran the local ballpark for the minor league baseball team. He made good money as did a few of the groundskeepers but everyone else made peanuts.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 29, 2017 02:54 PM (4ErVI)

146 No, but he did bang a parishioner's wife. The church took quick, decisive action....and ejected the parishioner and kept the pastor and wife. He doesn't really like when I bring that up because it was "like 8 years ago". Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 07:51 PM (GQn43) Holy shit.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 02:54 PM (NWiLs)

147 138 Did...did they really think people would put their football team before country? You know who puts country first? Nazis!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 02:54 PM (BoMuO)

148 Drew Brees isn't stupid Evidence? I now have evidence that he IS stupid. What's the evidence that he isn't? And please don't tell me it's that he's a college graduate. We ALL know about football players in college.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 02:54 PM (SRKgf)

149 FUCK THE BLMFL

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 29, 2017 02:54 PM (vyHiq)

150 If I understand correctly, the two events that bring the most outside money into Houston every year are: 1) the Offshore Technology Conference and 2) the Houston World Series of Dog Shows (!). Texans games are just recycling local noney.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 29, 2017 02:54 PM (M9+Yj)

151 As long as she doesn't twerk because that would be against NFL rules Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at September 29, 2017 07:54 PM (lKyWE) Well 'Dick" twerking is against the rules, not so sure about pussy twerking?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2017 02:54 PM (SjImc)

152 Speaking as one who suffered under Lee Brown's misrule in Houston, these big cities are full of Free Shit voters and, also, cogs in the Dem machine. These will vote themselves Collissea on the grounds of "revenue for minority owned businesses!!", meaning rinky-dink franchises of overpriced junk food and weak beer sold in the stadium itself. The voters also aren't the ones being taxed to pay for the interest on those municipal bonds. The NFL won't be asking for the bailout. The cities will. Expect JJ Watt and his crew of assholes to show up in Austin with sad stories to tell. I hope that when Houston's suburbs see this, they'll send representatives to Austin to vote "hell no".

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 29, 2017 02:54 PM (6FqZa)

153 Change the game rules. Make the fuckers work harder. You only change defensive/offensive squads at the start of a new quarter. Defence gets the ball? They're now the attack and similar for offence. No more stopping the clock when not absolutely needed. Short clock on scrimmages.. run to the huddle, make a fucking call and play it, pronto, or it's a penalty. More running and playing, less strolling around. They're supposedly super athletes, let's see some mixing it up and some endurance.

Posted by: otho at September 29, 2017 02:55 PM (qGuLD)

154 The church took quick, decisive action....and ejected the parishioner and kept the pastor and wife. He doesn't really like when I bring that up because it was "like 8 years ago". Posted by: Malcolm Tent And it was more than 10 miles away.

Posted by: josephistan at September 29, 2017 02:55 PM (ANIFC)

155 130 We really do need a frank national conversation on race in this country, but not the one liberals think. We need to tell the bruthas that at this point, their problems are almost entirely of their own making. Wrestle with a cop for his gun and get shot? That's on you, sport. I don't care if you're blond and blue, and belong to a country club, you do that, you're gonna get smoked. So it's time to pull your socks, get your fingers out of your asses, and make something of yourselves. Graduate high school, get a job, stay out of trouble. In short, adopt the much deprecated but invaluable bourgeois culture. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 29, 2017 07:52 PM (SRKgf) You're obviously a white supremacist. /s

Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2017 02:55 PM (sdi6R)

156 Yuengling is Family owned and America's oldest Brewery, when they entered the Ohio market the took 30% of the market from Bud, they flew in all kinds of executives to find out what the Hell is going on.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 02:55 PM (dKiJG)

157 No, but he did bang a parishioner's wife. The church took quick, decisive action....and ejected the parishioner and kept the pastor and wife. He doesn't really like when I bring that up because it was "like 8 years ago". Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 07:51 PM Gimme dat new time religion. It's good enough for me.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 29, 2017 02:55 PM (IqV8l)

158 I have to admit something, although not watching the nfl, I have been getting some enormous gratification out of abusing the kneelers. I'm hoping someone convinces them that kneeling is show due deference to the white man. Hilarity ensues.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 02:55 PM (SRKgf)

159 In fact, I'd like to see a lot more stories investigating all these reports about "great jobs" coming into any given area. Look past the hype and most of the time it's garbage retail work...and since Obamacare few of those jobs are full time work.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 29, 2017 02:56 PM (4ErVI)

160 "Supposedly" FOX will not show the National Anthems on TV.

And then everything will just...go away!

Posted by: tu3031 at September 29, 2017 07:50 PM (O5Q3r)

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I might like that idea for a bit.  Deny them a platform.  Shut up their voice.  Make their statement irrelevant.



I mean, play the anthem and show the flag.  Just no cameras on the players.



Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 02:56 PM (lwiT4)

161 Last year the MSM/BLMFL blamed the election for its 10% loss in viewers. Because 2016 was the first time ever an election happened during a football season right? LOL This year they blamed hurricanes. Are they stupid or do they think we're stupid?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 29, 2017 02:56 PM (vyHiq)

162 156 Yuengling is Family owned and America's oldest Brewery, when they entered the Ohio market the took 30% of the market from Bud, they flew in all kinds of executives to find out what the Hell is going on. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 07:55 PM (dKiJG) Ditto for Florida. They even opened up a brewery there.

Posted by: josephistan at September 29, 2017 02:56 PM (ANIFC)

163 One reason and one reason alone the NFL ratings were not as "bad" as some thought it would be at the end of last Sunday Night's week 3 end---The Cowboy Factor...but read thsarticle: https://tinyurl.com/yarvlzs8 ...and comprehend the numbers, you'll see the staggering impact that game had on boosting the overall NFL ratings-- Yet, the for the Dallas Fort Worth area to drop 17% with a potential Super Bowl team is YUUUGE! This article has had no play in the mafia media or the idiot sites!

Posted by: Don Meredith's aggravated soul at September 29, 2017 02:56 PM (wf3RQ)

164 Why on earth would you be a congregant for a man like that or a church that would have him? Posted by: pep at September 29, 2017 07:53 PM (LAe3v) I'm not. He just posts about issues at an ontological forum in our community that I frequent. He can't stand me and calls me "one of those whites". Care to guess his ethnicity? (hint: he's not black)

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 02:56 PM (GQn43)

165 Heh. By the way, how's the new gig going? I heard the boss is a real ball buster. Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 07:52 PM (NWiLs) --- I gave my star employee the day off today. He earned it. So far - so good.

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 29, 2017 02:57 PM (fiGNd)

166 The church took quick, decisive action....and ejected the parishioner and kept the pastor and wife. Is it an independent church, because in my denomination a complaint could be made to the hierarchy and the person could be brought up on charges?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 02:57 PM (iVOAv)

167 There are a LOT of people on USAA's website saying they are going to drop them. USAA in the meantime has basically said nothing other than they will continue to support the NFL. The willingness to destroy one's business over this is incomprehensible to me.

Posted by: freaked at September 29, 2017 02:57 PM (UdKB7)

168 Yeah, I'm liking the sound of that church being discussed, too. Sounds like a happenin' place!

Posted by: rhomboid at September 29, 2017 02:57 PM (NDlpU)

169 I know what they're kneeling for, but I pinkie-swore not to tell.

Posted by: It's Shep! Mr Smith, if you're nasty! at September 29, 2017 02:57 PM (kwakj)

170 ... could this be a plot to declare bankruptcy and wipe out all those expensive contracts Seeing the NFL and CNN go bankrupt in the same quarter would be awesome.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 29, 2017 02:58 PM (s28y4)

171 SYDNEY - Daniel Parfitt thought he'd found the perfect drone for a two-day mapping job in a remote patch of the Australian Outback. The roughly $80,000 machine had a wingspan of 7 feet and resembled a stealth bomber. There was just one problem. His machine raised the hackles of one prominent local resident: a wedge-tailed eagle. Swooping down from above, the eagle used its talons to punch a hole in the carbon fiber and Kevlar fuselage of Mr. Parfitt's drone, which lost control and plummeted to the ground.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at September 29, 2017 02:58 PM (e8kgV)

172 157 No, but he did bang a parishioner's wife. The church took quick, decisive action....and ejected the parishioner and kept the pastor and wife. He doesn't really like when I bring that up because it was "like 8 years ago". Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 07:51 PM Gimme dat new time religion. It's good enough for me. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 29, 2017 07:55 PM (IqV8l) It's the parishioner's fault, you know. If he had just been a proper servant leader in the likeness of Jesus Christ, his wife wouldn't have been tempted to stray.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 02:58 PM (NWiLs)

173 Soon seen under a highway overpass in shoddy torn uniforms, === Those are NOT uniforms! They wear costumes. They wear costumes for their employers. Pink, this month, if they are told so.

Posted by: Ghost of Mayor Daley at September 29, 2017 02:58 PM (tGjfm)

174 Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 07:51 PM (GQn43) What is a "new age" pastor?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 02:59 PM (iVOAv)

175 Link, looks interesting. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 07:01 PM (dKiJG) --- Sorry, it took a while to post this, had to go to work. Link to Body Language reading on Obama speech. www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4zoA41IHJM

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 29, 2017 02:59 PM (v3DL/)

176 Is it an independent church, because in my denomination a complaint could be made to the hierarchy and the person could be brought up on charges? Yes. Its called High Places. Go figure. It's basically one step teeny-weeny baby step short of UU.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 03:00 PM (GQn43)

177 The one good thing about the idiots that keep watching is that they are the ones that are making it inevitable that the NFL is going to end. They couldn't stand to not watch and so have allowed this to turn into a slow death spiral instead of a jerking of the NFL's chain. Where the NFL would have been forced to act last year. Now it's just a mess with their cover completely blown. Surprise, they are a business conglomerate that is not bound by any rules as they are entertainment businesses not sports outfits. And their is only one team - the NFL team. The rest is Kabuki theater.

Posted by: The Media Suxs at September 29, 2017 03:00 PM (t/9G+)

178 Yes. Its called High Places. Go figure.
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Oh dear.  I wonder what the potlucks are like.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 03:01 PM (lwiT4)

179 Change the game rules. Make the fuckers work harder. You only change defensive/offensive squads at the start of a new quarter. Defence gets the ball? They're now the attack and similar for offence. No more stopping the clock when not absolutely needed. Short clock on scrimmages.. run to the huddle, make a fucking call and play it, pronto, or it's a penalty. More running and playing, less strolling around. They're supposedly super athletes, let's see some mixing it up and some endurance. Posted by: otho at September 29, 2017 07:55 PM (qGuLD) I've thought that too: making teams go both ways, the way the game started, would be MUCH more interesting. With "third and long" guys and such, there's way too much specialization. (One reason I also hate the DH rule.) Make teams balance a player's offensive vs. defensive capabilities. Just like in video games: if you can choose total armor, AND total firepower AND total mobility, it's not really that interesting, and certainly not real world. The interesting part is the tradeoff you choose between them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:01 PM (SRKgf)

180 162 156 Yuengling is Family owned and America's oldest Brewery, when they entered the Ohio market the took 30% of the market from Bud, they flew in all kinds of executives to find out what the Hell is going on. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 07:55 PM (dKiJG) That's easy. Bud sucks. Yuengling doesn't.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 03:01 PM (NWiLs)

181 You mean, calling your followers ignorant racist monsters is BAD for business? How do you feel about backstabbing your leaders and adopting views from the opposition?

Posted by: Grimaldi at September 29, 2017 03:01 PM (6D6Qk)

182 Hmmm, maybe I gotta look into this "new age pastor" gig, if it involves taking liberties with the congregants. Not a religious type, but believe I could find purpose and meaning in activities of this sort.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 29, 2017 03:02 PM (NDlpU)

183 Is USAA affiliated with the govt at all? I know it's for the military but is it part of the govt in any way?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 29, 2017 03:02 PM (vyHiq)

184 Wait! I thought this was an epic gaffe for Trump!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 29, 2017 03:02 PM (M9+Yj)

185 I started to notice that the Sports writers are pumping out feel good stories about players buying poor kids Xboxs and other good deeds into my Twitter timeline, Too late assholes, too fucking late.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 03:02 PM (dKiJG)

186 The NFL should give linebacker a maul. Lineman should get an aluminum bat. Then I'd watch.

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 29, 2017 03:02 PM (fiGNd)

187 What is a "new age" pastor? Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 07:59 PM (iVOAv) Horny atheist.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:02 PM (SRKgf)

188 Is USAA affiliated with the govt at all? I know it's for the military but is it part of the govt in any way? Posted by: #neverskankles at September 29, 2017 08:02 PM (vyHiq) No

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2017 03:03 PM (SjImc)

189 Is USAA affiliated with the govt at all? I know it's for the military but is it part of the govt in any way? It just so happens I was looking into USAA today for auto insurance.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 03:03 PM (EufUL)

190 Oh dear. I wonder what the potlucks are like. I took them some folding chairs over from our church once. There were a lot of millennials with skinny jeans and a couple with waxed curly-q mustaches there. Nice folks I guess, but the vibe was quite odd.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 03:03 PM (GQn43)

191 186 The NFL should give linebacker a maul. Lineman should get an aluminum bat. Then I'd watch. Posted by: ScoggDog at September 29, 2017 08:02 PM (fiGNd) What, no trident and net? Sheesh.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:03 PM (SRKgf)

192 Prager read the statement of 'Love and Unity' that Aaron Rodgers wrote, what a bunch of empty air headed crap that was.

Posted by: Skip at September 29, 2017 03:03 PM (ghofu)

193 121 "Supposedly" FOX will not show the National Anthems on TV. And then everything will just...go away! They don't normally show it - except at playoffs... we will see, if the Networks don't show it at play-offs then the ends have justified the means. The people who thought this up don't give a shit about the players - it is about destroying history. Which a lot of people seem to be onboard with lest they wear the scarlet R. When is someone going to interview "Nessa" Kaepernick's GF and ask her where she got this idea - maybe from her friend Ameer Hasan Loggins

Posted by: Batterup at September 29, 2017 03:03 PM (mtGE/)

194 Maybe the NFL can finally be scalp we collect. Posted by: Maritime at September 29, 2017 07:50 PM (G/kZc) True. But I think it will take a while. Like I said, I don't blame people who have spent a lot of money of tickets this year from using them. One tell will be ticket sales for next year. I can see people thinking the backlash is over because the media will try their best to convince us that it is over. I wouldn't put it past them to fudge the numbers. Hell, they made it look like not many people were booing the Pats. I still think this is a huge entirely self-induced wound - more serious than the baseball strike of '94.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: grab the Wild Card, Crew! at September 29, 2017 03:04 PM (P8951)

195 10 Maybe someone should remind Delanie Walker in 20 years when he's a drooling idiot that no one made him go out and hit his head repeatedly playing a kids game. He chose to do that himself. Posted by: John Marston at September 29, 2017 07:26 PM (phoPy) "Please hep me. I'm broke and I don't even know my name. I shit my pants a lot too. PLEASE HELP ME I ENTERTAINED YOU WITH THE SPORTSBALL!"

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 29, 2017 03:04 PM (4ErVI)

196 What is a "new age" pastor? Were just here to have fun, fellowship, and worship Worship what? You know, the father! So lets get to it. You can go play video games over there, get an espresso over there, the conversation pit is there. Go have a good time. God is happy when you are happy.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 03:05 PM (BoMuO)

197 The only intentionally funny thing that Jesse Jackson has done was to read the Cat in the Hat on SNL. Back when SNL was semi-funny.

Posted by: Carlos Danger at September 29, 2017 03:05 PM (ce4vQ)

198 186 The NFL should give linebacker a maul. Lineman should get an aluminum bat. Then I'd watch. Posted by: ScoggDog at September 29, 2017 08:02 PM (fiGNd) Instead of padding they should have GWAR armor.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2017 03:05 PM (NWiLs)

199 Ever see a pro athlete off the field? They're assholes in every respect.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 03:06 PM (EufUL)

200 I don't know what it will take to convince corporations that changing their corporate mission to becoming Full Leftist Propaganda Outfits is contrary to their business interests. They are run by people so dedicated to their cause that they don't care about what it would personally costs them. They will support liberalism even if it runs them into the ground. I wish we could get Congressmen like that. Congressmen who were so dedicated to the cause of conservatism, that they resisted all bribes and always called BS on compromises, and always strove to cut spending, etc.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 29, 2017 03:06 PM (/qEW2)

201 191 186 The NFL should give linebacker a maul. Lineman should get an aluminum bat. Then I'd watch. Posted by: ScoggDog at September 29, 2017 08:02 PM (fiGNd) What, no trident and net? Sheesh. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 29, 2017 08:03 PM (SRKgf) I bought a flail at the Ren Faire. Can I join?

Posted by: josephistan at September 29, 2017 03:06 PM (ANIFC)

202 192 Prager read the statement of 'Love and Unity' that Aaron Rodgers wrote, what a bunch of empty air headed crap that was. Posted by: Skip at September 29, 2017 08:03 PM (ghofu) Remember, Rodgers went to berkeley.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: grab the Wild Card, Crew! at September 29, 2017 03:06 PM (P8951)

203 Yeah, I like the one-squad football idea. Outstanding. And a league organized that way would get my interest - so long as the anthem ceremonies involved 100% proper participation by all present, plus a 21-gun salute using surplus artillery paid for by the league, plus a fly-over of surplus Cold War-era military aircraft also paid for by the league, plus an enlistment ceremony at mid-field right after the coin-toss, plus the burning of various enemy banners (North Korea, ISIS, etc.) by the team captains, plus the Pledge of Allegiance, led by the linemen from each team. Sounds reasonable.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 29, 2017 03:06 PM (NDlpU)

204 185 I started to notice that the Sports writers are pumping out feel good stories about players buying poor kids Xboxs and other good deeds into my Twitter timeline, Too late assholes, too fucking late. Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 08:02 PM (dKiJG) First, "poor kids" --> "black kids," because there are no poor white kids, amirite? Second, fuck X-boxes. Buy them textbooks. Third, see #1 and #2. Fourth, no sale. We know you're trying to buy indulgences for your transgressions. Fifth, to hell with hood rats. Do something for wounded veterans.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:06 PM (SRKgf)

205 197 Holy Shit - Meant 'Green Eggs and Ham.' Please - refrain from violence for my egregious error.

Posted by: Carlos Danger at September 29, 2017 03:06 PM (ce4vQ)

206 But one out of three ain't bad... https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/276964/

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 03:06 PM (rmVvL)

207 Yes. Its called High Places. Go figure. =========================== Well, if it's the church in Tennessee it doesn't sound like "UU" It mentions Jesus though not specifically the resurrection.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 03:07 PM (iVOAv)

208 What, no trident and net? Sheesh. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 29, 2017 08:03 PM (SRKgf) ... Receivers should get dirt-bikes. Defensive backs get cattle prods. It'll kind of be like RollerBall. It will be awesome.

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 29, 2017 03:07 PM (fiGNd)

209 When I hear "new age pastor", I think 'Joel Osteen'. Christianity lite bubble-wrapped in pop psychology. But there are worse things.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 03:07 PM (2zIj5)

210 plus the burning of various enemy banners (North Korea, ISIS, etc.) Yow. You left out explicit mention of the rainbow and UN flags. I'm worried about you, man.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:07 PM (SRKgf)

211 Re: Guitar Expert Question. Carl Ballintine from McHale's Navy. Posted by: klaftern Heh. I can see the resemblance, but wrong. He had a weird nickname on the show -- I can't remember....was it "Happy"???

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 03:08 PM (EufUL)

212 It'll kind of be like RollerBall. It will be awesome. Posted by: ScoggDog at September 29, 2017 08:07 PM (fiGNd) Dogg, THAT might just make me get cable again!

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:08 PM (gwPgz)

213 You know, the father! So lets get to it. You can go play video games over there, get an espresso over there, the conversation pit is there. Go have a good time. God is happy when you are happy. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 08:05 PM (BoMuO) Lightweight religion with no demands. Those 10 Commandments are really a downer, man. So negative!

Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: grab the Wild Card, Crew! at September 29, 2017 03:08 PM (P8951)

214 199 Ever see a pro athlete off the field? They're assholes in every respect. Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 08:06 PM (EufUL) Not the NHL players I've met. John LeClair was a little standoffish, but the rest were nice, friendly & funny. Reggie Leach even let me try on his Stanley Cup ring. I can't imagine Tom Brady ever letting a fan try on any of his Super Bowl rings.

Posted by: josephistan at September 29, 2017 03:08 PM (ANIFC)

215 Prager read the statement of 'Love and Unity' that Aaron Rodgers wrote, what a bunch of empty air headed crap that was.
==================================


Made me think of daisies and butterflies and Woodstock.



Carry on.  Love is coming.  Love is coming to us all.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 03:08 PM (lwiT4)

216 Is USAA affiliated with the govt at all? I know it's for the military but is it part of the govt in any way? Not the govt. It is a private company. they used to be for officers only, then expanded to enlisted, now I think they will let you be a member if you can say the word military.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 03:08 PM (BoMuO)

217 But again: If you know anything about guitars, identify the bartender in this The Firm video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvjVGh0jmzY

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 03:09 PM (EufUL)

218 Even if they all stand and even if they apologize....FUCK THEM. They have showns themselves to be vile anti-American cunts. Players and owners. Why would you want to give them another dollar, ever?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 29, 2017 03:09 PM (vyHiq)

219 208 What, no trident and net? Sheesh. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 29, 2017 08:03 PM (SRKgf) ... Receivers should get dirt-bikes. Defensive backs get cattle prods. It'll kind of be like RollerBall. It will be awesome. Posted by: ScoggDog at September 29, 2017 08:07 PM (fiGNd) Nah. DBs get crossbows longbows crossbows longbows SAWs.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:09 PM (SRKgf)

220 But there are worse things.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 08:07 PM (2zIj5)

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No, not really.


Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 03:10 PM (lwiT4)

221 You know, the father! So lets get to it. You can go play video games over there, get an espresso over there, the conversation pit is there. Go have a good time. God is happy when you are happy. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 08:05 PM (BoMuO) Yes. Bastardized scripture. The Babylon Bee had a post up today that was titled something like "One question that determine whether or not you are a mouth breathing bigot". When you clicked on the post it said something like Do you think marriage is between a man and a woman like Christianity and Scripture have taught forever? If you clicked yes, it called you a bigot. That was a satirical post, but I believe at this fellow's church it would be seriously posed.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 03:10 PM (GQn43)

222 Reverend Little Ed Pembrook of the Church of the Mighty Struggle.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 29, 2017 03:10 PM (oVJmc)

223 Oh dear. I wonder what the potlucks are like. I took them some folding chairs over from our church once. There were a lot of millennials with skinny jeans and a couple with waxed curly-q mustaches there. Nice folks I guess, but the vibe was quite odd. Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 08:03 PM (GQn43) -------------------------------- I can't imagine the potluck that crowd would bring - Jell-O would be out, that's too complicated to make.

Posted by: Boots at September 29, 2017 03:10 PM (EBwPV)

224 They will research the daylights out of a new product, they will sue over logo violations to protect the brand, and then they will toss their goodwill down the dumpster because some idiot in HR thinks the public cares whether say, 7-11 is woke?

These should be firing offenses for merely making the suggestion.


Posted by: Mikey NTH - Football Season! Nincompoopery and Jackassery on Sale at The Outrage Outlet at September 29, 2017 03:11 PM (66/E/)

225 215 Prager read the statement of 'Love and Unity' that Aaron Rodgers wrote, what a bunch of empty air headed crap that was. ================================== Made me think of daisies and butterflies and Woodstock. Carry on. Love is coming. Love is coming to us all. Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 08:08 PM (lwiT4) If by "love" you mean "herpes" and/or "crabs."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:11 PM (SRKgf)

226 Folks in St. Louis are laughing over the Rams. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 29, 2017 07:38 PM (oVJmc) Not really. They are mostly still butthurt. I still hear it anytime the subject comes up. They can't even get an MLS team here. Hell, they are still butthurt over the NLF Cardinals leaving decades ago. I'm not from these parts, just been here 15 years, way too fucking long.

Posted by: Astute Dude at September 29, 2017 03:11 PM (eSp71)

227 And BTW, that groovy pastor partly explains Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers was raised pretty strictly Catholic and still was one when his pro career began. But over the past few years he's become friends with an ex-Christian minister who is a Christian no longer. Apparently he preaches New Age crap. Oprah just loves him.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: grab the Wild Card, Crew! at September 29, 2017 03:11 PM (P8951)

228 The only good thing about Millennials is the Craft beer, I have never seen so many Breweries opening up and the Beer is good. I have started drinking Locally only Beer. That video is Really interesting on the Body language expert and the Obama Rally and the Trump supporter. Thank you for that.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 03:11 PM (dKiJG)

229 Well, if it's the church in Tennessee it doesn't sound like "UU" It mentions Jesus though not specifically the resurrection. Thats the baby step.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 03:11 PM (GQn43)

230 175 Link to Body Language reading on Obama speech. www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4zoA41IHJM Posted by: Darth Randall at September 29, 2017 07:59 PM (v3DL/) I watched it. That was very interesting.

Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2017 03:12 PM (sdi6R)

231 That was literally my experience at one of those places. I just moved to town and one of my co workers invited me to her church. Backed out slowly after that intro and found a real church.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 29, 2017 03:12 PM (BoMuO)

232 The Babylon Bee had a post up today that was titled something like "One question that determine whether or not you are a mouth breathing bigot".
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I love the Babylon Bee.  I don't know who writes it, but about 9 times out of 10, they hit the nail right on the head.  Plus, funny.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 03:12 PM (lwiT4)

233 I took them some folding chairs over from our church once. There were a lot of millennials with skinny jeans and a couple with waxed curly-q mustaches there. Nice folks I guess, but the vibe was quite odd. Posted by: Malcolm Tent at September 29, 2017 08:03 PM (GQn43) And the couple with the waxed mustaches were women.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 29, 2017 03:12 PM (4ErVI)

234 ramen noodles

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 03:13 PM (EufUL)

235 199 Ever see a pro athlete off the field? They're assholes in every respect. Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 08:06 PM (EufUL) Not the NHL players I've met. John LeClair was a little standoffish, but the rest were nice, friendly & funny. Reggie Leach even let me try on his Stanley Cup ring. I can't imagine Tom Brady ever letting a fan try on any of his Super Bowl rings. Posted by: josephistan at September 29, 2017 08:08 PM (ANIFC) I know several ex-MLB players, and they're the salt of the earth. I've even faced Bill "The Spaceman" Lee in baseball tournaments, and he's a laff riot. I faced Doug Flutie as well, and he seemed nice enough too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:13 PM (SRKgf)

236 I've had nothing but good experiences with USAA. It would be tough for me to walk away from them. When my brother died, they went above and beyond for our family.

Posted by: no good deed at September 29, 2017 03:13 PM (eIQHF)

237 Even Lakewood Community Church where Joel Osteen preaches has quite a traditional statement of belief. I would have to see what Osteen's sermons are like. I loathed "Your best life ever" because-for one thing there was no mention of taking up the cross or suffering for Christ, and his approach always seems like "Name It and Claim It" to me, and anyone who has read my posts for a while knows my less than shrinking violet opinion of that . ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 03:14 PM (iVOAv)

238 Rodgers was raised pretty strictly Catholic and still was one when his pro career began. But over the past few years he's become friends with an ex-Christian minister who is a Christian no longer.
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Huh.  I did not know that.  For some reason I thought he had a sort of 'meh' Baptist background.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 03:14 PM (lwiT4)

239 Flutie might be nice but I remember him supporting Hillary for Senator when he was a Bill.

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 03:14 PM (rmVvL)

240 Things have sure changed since I was young. It's hard to believe but there was a time when a black man crawling around peeing like a dog on a football field was not something you'd show to your children let alone cheer on. Wasn't there a black guy who squatted like he was taking a dump last year to celebrate a TD? Classy sport ya got there.

Posted by: The Media Suxs at September 29, 2017 03:15 PM (t/9G+)

241 Fen - he's prosperity gospel, which I view as heretical, but what do I know.  I've been called one as well.  By my own husband!!  Ha!

Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 03:15 PM (lwiT4)

242 The only intentionally funny thing that Jesse Jackson has done was to read the Cat in the Hat on SNL. Back when SNL was semi-funny. Posted by: Carlos Danger at September 29, 2017 08:05 PM Didn't he realize he was being played for an Uncle Tom?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 29, 2017 03:16 PM (IqV8l)

243 240 Things have sure changed since I was young. It's hard to believe but there was a time when a black man crawling around peeing like a dog on a football field was not something you'd show to your children let alone cheer on. Wasn't there a black guy who squatted like he was taking a dump last year to celebrate a TD? Classy sport ya got there. Posted by: The Media Suxs at September 29, 2017 08:15 PM (t/9G+) It's ghetto culture. Something that should definitely be stomped on, as fundamentally worthless and counterproductive. Want to know why whites run things? It's because they don't have that shitty useless culture. Memo to Muslims: see the above.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:16 PM (SRKgf)

244 I can't imagine Tom Brady ever letting a fan try on any of his Super Bowl rings. Posted by: josephistan Some people learn from other's mistakes.

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at September 29, 2017 03:17 PM (tGjfm)

245 I've thought that too: making teams go both ways, the way the game started, would be MUCH more interesting. With "third and long" guys and such, there's way too much specialization. (One reason I also hate the DH rule.) Make teams balance a player's offensive vs. defensive capabilities. Just like in video games: if you can choose total armor, AND total firepower AND total mobility, it's not really that interesting, and certainly not real world. The interesting part is the tradeoff you choose between them. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 29, 2017 08:01 PM Yep. It's a good game, but it's become way too specialized. Get the QB on for offence AND defence, etc, leran some new skills or get slaughtered... everyone develops alternate positions, and keep the game moving. It would be fascinating to watch. You can stick to purely offence and defence lineups and field specialists if you want, but when possession changes, they're on their own. Reduce stoppages and let fatigue enter into the equation. Also, let tacklers and blockers smash each other how they want and reduce the penalties for infringing on the receivers. Bring back rushing/running as a force to be reckoned with, as it will with players needing to be more rounded in skills.

Posted by: otho at September 29, 2017 03:17 PM (qGuLD)

246 Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 08:15 PM (lwiT4) Yes, name it and claim it=Prosperity Gospel. I'm sure your husband says that you're a heretic in the nicest way possible: "Oh, honey you old hectic you! ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 03:17 PM (iVOAv)

247 220 But there are worse things. Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 08:07 PM (2zIj5) ============================ No, not really. Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 08:10 PM ( I get what you are saying. I've lowered my bar in the last year b/c of the current environment. I figure I'd rather people be in a community like that, then Westboro, or looking to heroin or drugs or drink to make themselves feel better. If they weren't at Joel's place, it doesn't mean they'd be at church or somewhere better. Might be finding their purpose in some batshit crazy social justice group. At least he teaches commandments & loving your neighbor & talking to God. In a world seemingly filled with hate & violence, he isn't teaching destruction. Just where my head is at currently. Next year could be different.

Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 03:18 PM (2zIj5)

248 239 Flutie might be nice but I remember him supporting Hillary for Senator when he was a Bill. Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2017 08:14 PM (rmVvL)/i] I don't know anything about his politics. He didn't bean me, which I appreciated, and he seemed reasonable enough on the most tenuous of interactions. The surprising thing: how small he is.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:18 PM (SRKgf)

249 130 We really do need a frank national conversation on race in this country, but not the one liberals think. We need to tell the bruthas that at this point, their problems are almost entirely of their own making. Wrestle with a cop for his gun and get shot? That's on you, sport. I don't care if you're blond and blue, and belong to a country club, you do that, you're gonna get smoked. So it's time to pull your socks, get your fingers out of your asses, and make something of yourselves. Graduate high school, get a job, stay out of trouble. In short, adopt the much deprecated but invaluable bourgeois culture. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
You are a racist hater!! Conversation on Race has ended.

Posted by: Greg Popovich, SJW High Priest at September 29, 2017 03:19 PM (pY+s4)

250 Sorry, it took a while to post this, had to go to work. Link to Body Language reading on Obama speech where a Trump Supporter Holds up a Sign at a Vote Hillary Rally www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4zoA41IHJM Posted by: Da Dude that was so damn interesting, I will have to watch more of her videos.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 29, 2017 03:19 PM (dKiJG)

251 I'm sure your husband says that you're a heretic in the nicest way possible: "Oh, honey you old hectic you! ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 08:17 PM (iVOAv)

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He does - he's very sweet about it.  We have some vigorous theological debates in our house.  Then we agree I'm right and go out for breakfast.


Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 03:19 PM (lwiT4)

252 Those 10 Commandments are really a downer, man. So negative! Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: grab the Wild Card, Crew! at September 29, 2017 08:08 PM (P8951) Those Commandments be more like Guidelines matey!

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:20 PM (gwPgz)

253 I said NOOD

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 03:20 PM (EufUL)

254 Scat!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 03:20 PM (EufUL)

255 Shoo!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 29, 2017 03:20 PM (EufUL)

256 Yep. It's a good game, but it's become way too specialized. Get the QB on for offence AND defence, etc, leran some new skills or get slaughtered... everyone develops alternate positions, and keep the game moving. It would be fascinating to watch. You can stick to purely offence and defence lineups and field specialists if you want, but when possession changes, they're on their own. Reduce stoppages and let fatigue enter into the equation. Also, let tacklers and blockers smash each other how they want and reduce the penalties for infringing on the receivers. Bring back rushing/running as a force to be reckoned with, as it will with players needing to be more rounded in skills. Posted by: otho at September 29, 2017 08:17 PM (qGuLD) It's what I love about baseball: you have to decide whether to play the behemoth who hits 500 ft. home runs, but is a menace in the field, versus the slender contact hitter who hoovers up everything remotely near him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:21 PM (SRKgf)

257 245 Yep. It's a good game, but it's become way too specialized. Get the QB on for offence AND defence, etc, leran some new skills or get slaughtered... everyone develops alternate positions, and keep the game moving. It would be fascinating to watch. You can stick to purely offence and defence lineups and field specialists if you want, but when possession changes, they're on their own. Reduce stoppages and let fatigue enter into the equation. Also, let tacklers and blockers smash each other how they want and reduce the penalties for infringing on the receivers. Bring back rushing/running as a force to be reckoned with, as it will with players needing to be more rounded in skills. Posted by: otho at September 29, 2017 08:17 PM (qGuLD) I'm not a football fan, but I like that idea. One of the reasons I always hated the DH in baseball was that it seemed like the first step towards separate offensive and defensive teams.

Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2017 03:21 PM (sdi6R)

258 Posted by: Gumdrop Gorilla at September 29, 2017 08:18 PM (2zIj5) I would like to thank that Joel Osteen provides milk the babies in Christ and from that experience they might move to get some deeper teaching elsewhere in Houston. I meant that as no disrespect to people who attend his church. People do need to start somewhere.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 03:22 PM (iVOAv)

259 Not the NHL players I've met.

I get on a ground floor elevator by myself one time and the doors start to shut, and I hear, "Hey can you hold that elevator?" So I hold it and the guy gets on and says "Thanks. How you doing today?" Bobby Orr.
Elevator goes up to 5, he gets off and says, "Thanks. Have a good day."
I never said a word. My jaw was on the floor. He must've thought I was a retard.

Posted by: tu3031 at September 29, 2017 03:22 PM (O5Q3r)

260 Posted by: otho at September 29, 2017 08:17 PM (qGuLD) Baseball players as a consequence tend to be of normal size (ca. 6 feet, 190 lbs. or so, give or take). Being 7 feet tall isn't an advantage (certainly for position players), nor is weighing 300 lbs. - you have to drag that around the field AND the basepaths.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:23 PM (SRKgf)

261
If the nfl cared about diversity there would be a lot more white, asian and hispanic players.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 29, 2017 03:23 PM (r+sAi)

262 Posted by: grammie winger at September 29, 2017 08:19 PM (lwiT4) LOL. I'm still hoping that someday i will meet you. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 03:23 PM (iVOAv)

263 I've had nothing but good experiences with USAA. It would be tough for me to walk away from them. When my brother died, they went above and beyond for our family. Posted by: no good deed at September 29, 2017 08:13 PM (eIQHF) Been a USAA member for more than 29 years, and service has been great as are the rates. But I will walk away if they don't come to their senses.

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:24 PM (gwPgz)

264 Even Lakewood Community Church where Joel Osteen preaches has quite a traditional statement of belief. I would have to see what Osteen's sermons are like. I loathed "Your best life ever" because-for one thing there was no mention of taking up the cross or suffering for Christ, and his approach always seems like "Name It and Claim It" to me, and anyone who has read my posts for a while knows my less than shrinking violet opinion of that . ;^) Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 08:14 PM (iVOAv) Fenelon, you've ALWAYS got to vet the church more than just looking at the "what we believe" page on their website. For fake megachurch pseudo-churches like these, that statement of belief is an attempt to excuse the bad teachings that they give out week after week in person. The sermons themselves need to be analyzed.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 29, 2017 03:25 PM (/qEW2)

265 113 Boots - have no idea, but it sounds plausible - and I hope to HELL it's true. Because that's one thing that would make this even better - intra-squad dissension leading to actual on-field problems and game-changing plays. Perfect, hilarious! All because the delusional race obsessions that have already consumed most of one community must be pressed until the entire society collapses. .... Posted by: rhomboid at September 29, 2017 07:48 PM (NDlpU) That arguably has already happened. The Raiders QB was the only player not to kneel and he - inexplicably - was sacked on 2 consecutive plays and a number of snaps were early. Lost the game, too.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 29, 2017 03:25 PM (rgxez)

266 May I suggest some love songs as a requiem for the NFL

Posted by: These never make me cry at September 29, 2017 03:27 PM (xpKpV)

267 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 29, 2017 08:25 PM (/qEW2) Well, I wasn't planning to go there :^) but yes, I agree with you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 29, 2017 03:27 PM (iVOAv)

268 Doesn't remotely surprise me that these companies aren't checking what their customers think. The attitude on the left is very frequently intolerant of differing beliefs to the point where they literally cannot comprehend that a "normal" person (like, someone they work with) might disagree with them.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at September 29, 2017 03:28 PM (JPRju)

269 I'm not a football fan, but I like that idea. One of the reasons I always hated the DH in baseball was that it seemed like the first step towards separate offensive and defensive teams. Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2017 08:21 PM (sdi6R) THIS. We practice all year round here in SoCal, and have pitchers from the minor leagues (or rehabbing from MLB) show up at the field in the run up to opening day. We invite them to hit with us (BP thrown by an MLB scout, no less), but they decline, saying they're pitchers. I think this is stupid, because ability to hit (or at least bunt) could easily affect your W-L record, and whether you stay in the game or not. My take: too specialized.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:28 PM (SRKgf)

270 but they decline, saying they're pitchers. They sound more like "catchers" if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Astute Dude at September 29, 2017 03:30 PM (3yPGh)

271 That arguably has already happened. The Raiders QB was the only player not to kneel and he - inexplicably - was sacked on 2 consecutive plays and a number of snaps were early. Lost the game, too. Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 29, 2017 08:25 PM (rgxez) That can cut two ways. Stare at and then loft passes to black receivers so the opposing DBs and LBs ring their chimes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:31 PM (SRKgf)

272 270 but they decline, saying they're pitchers. They sound more like "catchers" if you know what I mean. Posted by: Astute Dude at September 29, 2017 08:30 PM (3yPGh) Their take: their job is to pitch, not to hit, and they don't want to run the bases. I say, "Yeah, but suppose you could cheer up your W-L record, or stay in the game, because you could hit/bunt?" They shrugged. So baseball players aren't necessarily all that bright either.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara [/i][/b][/s] at September 29, 2017 03:33 PM (SRKgf)

273 269 We invite them to hit with us (BP thrown by an MLB scout, no less), but they decline, saying they're pitchers. I think this is stupid, because ability to hit (or at least bunt) could easily affect your W-L record, and whether you stay in the game or not. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 29, 2017 08:28 PM (SRKgf) I don't understand that mindset. There have been plenty of pitchers that have been good hitters. Like, oh I don't know, Babe Ruth. I remember watching the Phillies' Rick Wise pitch a no-hitter on TV back in the 70s. He also hit two homers in the game.

Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2017 03:38 PM (sdi6R)

274 And bunting seems to be a lost art. Hardly anybody wants to do that any more. It's not sexy enough, I guess. But besides the usual function of moving up the runners, a well-placed bunt can go for a hit, or cause a defensive player to make an error. That could have a huge impact in a clutch situation.

Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2017 03:52 PM (sdi6R)

275 The NFL can FOAD. They want fans back? First off the owners can fire Goodell and the tar and feather him and throw his burned and feathered corpse onto the field at the Hall of Fame in Ohio so we can all throw garbage on him. Then the owners can issue a written apology and allow me to whip them, naked, through the streets of Aberdeen. Then the players who kneeled at the beginning of this thing should be thrown out of their home stadium a la the Klingon devisiture ceremony with each person in the stadium turning thier backs silently. Afterwards. When seen people should be encouraged to pelt them with rocks and garbage. The rest should be fined $1M each and a new rule, in addition to the one that they ALREADY HAVE, entitled the "Shut the f*ck up and play football rule" should be adopted requiring stupid jocks and the public leeches owners to just shut the f*ck up should be adopted. Then and only then will I begin to forgive. I will never ever forget however. I will be watching very carefully. Oh and for those who think this is extreme? It doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of what I WANT to do to them.

Posted by: Publius Redux at September 29, 2017 04:14 PM (DT14/)

276 " Corporations make these political decisions based mainly on ad hoc advice from their PR and HR departments.  "


As the left thinks 1984 is a manual for society, they also think Dilbert is a manual for running a company. Catbert and Dogbert, advisers extraordinaire.

Posted by: geoffb at September 29, 2017 04:27 PM (zOpu5)

277 They don't care about profits. This is ideological. They will sink their rating right into the ground to get what they want.

Posted by: thales at September 29, 2017 06:55 PM (9bNq3)

278 Grammie, Babylon Bee is run by Adam Ford.

Posted by: Vintagetink at September 29, 2017 08:01 PM (J7mkp)

279 ...and the NFL (numerous felons league) DOESN'T pay taxes!
Chew that for a second...

Posted by: TN VOLUNTEER at September 30, 2017 05:44 AM (y385q)

280 The entire concept of the concentration of ANY power in HR departments is what specifically put America out of business. The unelected bureaucrats in govt handed power to big brother (sisters too) wannabes in the Newspeak "HR".

Posted by: klaftern at September 30, 2017 08:37 AM (RuIsu)

281 #wwad What would alynski do in our shoes?

Posted by: Shiggz at September 30, 2017 11:08 AM (x+MG+)

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