April 29, 2014

Poll: Democrats In Worse Shape in 2014 Than They Were in Big Red Wave 2010
— Ace

Per the new WaPo/ABCNews poll, there is only one important number where Democrats are in a better position today than they were four years ago:

Around this time in 2010, only 12 percent of Americans offered up positive opinions of the U.S. economy, compared to 29 percent today.

Granted, that's a very important number, and +17 is a big improvement. But still: a mere 29% of the public say anything positive about the economy.

On all other numbers, Democrats are in worse shape today than they were four years ago.

Posted by: Ace at 02:07 PM | Comments (208)
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1 Democrats are in worse shape.  Does that mean Republicans are in better shape?

Posted by: BurtTC at April 29, 2014 02:09 PM (BeSEI)

2 Then what the hell happened two years ago ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 29, 2014 02:10 PM (XWw96)

3 Don't worry! I'll screw it up! I'm on it!

Posted by: The GOP Establishment [/i][/b][/s][/u] at April 29, 2014 02:10 PM (yz6yg)

4 Does that mean Republicans are in better shape? What? *buuuurp*

Posted by: John Boehner at April 29, 2014 02:10 PM (ILBCY)

5 Sink you Demon Rats, sink.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 02:10 PM (W6ugU)

6 stuttering and generally fucking up in clusters

Posted by: Max Power at April 29, 2014 02:10 PM (q177U)

7 We can fix that.

Posted by: GOP at April 29, 2014 02:11 PM (pgQxn)

8 Democrats In Worse Shape in 2014 Than They Were in Big Red Wave 2010 Yes, but so are Republicans.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 29, 2014 02:11 PM (WPBmS)

9 What we need is immigration reform to tamper down that tea party enthusiasm.

Posted by: John Boehner at April 29, 2014 02:11 PM (5UteM)

10 Oh, and John Boehner should be impeached - he orchestrated the firing of a political adversary. He's an awful human being.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 29, 2014 02:12 PM (WPBmS)

11 In similar news, Mark " "If you don't vote for Barack Obama, you're insane. 'Cause without him, I think the middle class will completely disappear. And you look at Romney and I'm sure he's a nice guy, but he is like The Thing, he only imitates human behavior, he's not actually human himself. (...) So God bless him. I'm enjoying him running for office, but, I just came out as a lifelong Democrat" Hamill is confirmed for the new Star Wars. Yeah, I think I can miss that one.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 29, 2014 02:12 PM (pgQxn)

12 We see  an opening! 

We're tanned, rested and ready. 

Posted by: Whigs at April 29, 2014 02:12 PM (BeSEI)

13 Well well, do we have eye beams yet, once we have eye beams we won't have to worry anymore.

Posted by: Killerdog at April 29, 2014 02:12 PM (Zdgjo)

14 We need more race talk!

Posted by: DNC at April 29, 2014 02:13 PM (XeVA7)

15 Ace you must not have been listening to denny stoyer, the dems are gong to retake the House. Not the guy you want to go to the horse track with Yankee fans booing the shit out of Cano

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 02:13 PM (t3UFN)

16 "Democrats In Worse Shape in 2014 Than They Were in Big Red Wave 2010" That's horrible news. We'll get right on reversing that while we shoot our own feet to keep us behind.

Posted by: GOPe at April 29, 2014 02:13 PM (1CroS)

17 ?????? Worse shape? You haven't seen Hillary in a thong lately have you? And you're all welcome for posting that around dinner time

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at April 29, 2014 02:13 PM (PDqaO)

18 These low poll numbers for the Democrats prove that Americans are holding Obama's inability to pass immigration reform against them!

Posted by: John Boehner at April 29, 2014 02:13 PM (4q658)

19 This is big fucking deal

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 29, 2014 02:13 PM (nTgAI)

20 Oh great. In two years America can re-elect TFG.

Posted by: Newman at April 29, 2014 02:13 PM (/djtm)

21

Health care system is getting/will get better as a result of Obamacare:
March 2010: 37 percent
April 2014: 24 percent


Seems to me, if people were paying attention, that number would have gone UP due to TFG's extralegal modifications.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 29, 2014 02:13 PM (L02KD)

22 He's an awful human being. My friend, as mi amigo Harry would say, terrorists like you shouldn't talk.

Posted by: Juan Amigo McCain at April 29, 2014 02:14 PM (pgQxn)

23 12% ...... again , math is racist .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 29, 2014 02:14 PM (XWw96)

24 please GOP don't fuck it up

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 29, 2014 02:14 PM (30eLQ)

25 And all we need to do to make sure these poll numbers stay low, is create tens of millions more Democrat voters!

Posted by: John McCain at April 29, 2014 02:15 PM (4q658)

26 Still, no matter how bad the Republicans are, the Dems gotta be hoping for another school shooting, racial  strife,  and/or gay bashing  to improve their chances.

Nothing says success for the Dems like  horrible, divisive events. 

Posted by: BurtTC at April 29, 2014 02:15 PM (BeSEI)

27 They like us, they really like us!

Posted by: GOP at April 29, 2014 02:15 PM (pgQxn)

28 We'll be fine if we focus on Obamacare, and the childrens.


But mostly on the childrens.

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 29, 2014 02:15 PM (5UteM)

29 If we can only pass amnesty we can drive the final nail in the coffin.

Posted by: Karl Rove at April 29, 2014 02:16 PM (LJ7Ze)

30 "....Cano"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 07:13 PM (t3UFN)

Who?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 29, 2014 02:16 PM (QFxY5)

31 The question is moot.

Posted by: Vote Fraud at April 29, 2014 02:16 PM (QupBk)

32 "please GOP don't fuck it up"

Uh... you may want to sit down for this, but that's kind of what we do.

Posted by: Jeb Bush at April 29, 2014 02:16 PM (4q658)

33 24. please GOP don't fuck it up HahahahahahahaHahahahahahaha HahahahahahahaHahahahahahaha Breathe HahahahahahahaHahahahahahaha HahahahahahahaHahahahahahaha

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at April 29, 2014 02:16 PM (PDqaO)

34 please GOP don't fuck it up Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 29, 2014 07:14 PM (30eLQ) "GOPs who don't fuck up" is the third shortest book in the world, following the #1 shortest book " Book of Italian War Heros" and the #2 " Book of Jewish Business Ethics"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 02:16 PM (t3UFN)

35 so gun control, benghazi, obamacare, libya, increased gas prices, insane inflation, out of control unemployment, NSA spying, a nation on the verge of a race war, a DoJ that is led by Goebbels reincarnated and a preznet who has 300 rounds of golf under his belt have led the American people to ponder? Whoda thunk?

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 02:16 PM (x3YFz)

36 November is gonna be a good month.

Posted by: TAO at April 29, 2014 02:17 PM (HGQES)

37 please GOP don't fuck it up It's already happened. John 'just teasing' Boehner is committed to passing amnesty.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 29, 2014 02:17 PM (pmDdf)

38 The R's can win inspite of themselves.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 02:17 PM (A98Xu)

39 I think it's about time to bomb Russia. For our friends in the Ukraine of course.

Posted by: Barky Obroomstick at April 29, 2014 02:17 PM (pgQxn)

40 Yankee Fans chanting " You sold out" to Cano

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 02:17 PM (t3UFN)

41 What is the surprise scheduled for October? Anyone know?

Posted by: Pointless in Paduka at April 29, 2014 02:17 PM (c/dN6)

42 We should eye beam that fucken John McCain, eye beam him right into private life.

Posted by: Killerdog at April 29, 2014 02:18 PM (Zdgjo)

43 But the Dems control all those big flatscreens that get fought for on Black Fridays every year. And Hollywood. And pop culture. And the schools, the universities, pro sports, and absolutely anything anybody looks at or pays attention to.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at April 29, 2014 02:18 PM (tmFlQ)

44 Oh please.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 29, 2014 02:18 PM (8UCj3)

45 "GOPs who don't fuck up" is the third shortest book in the world, following the #1 shortest book " Book of Italian War Heros" and the #2 " Book of Jewish Business Ethics" Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 07:16 PM (t3UFN) "Obama's Accomplishments (subtitled: "I have to vote?")

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 02:18 PM (x3YFz)

46 OT. Nascar fined Marcus Ambrose $25,000 and Casey Mears $15,000 for their after race fight in the garage. Both are on probation until May 28. Nascar apparently is the Rachel Jeantile of the Sports world. Ambrose should have simply allowed Mears to keep shoving him until he fell down.

Posted by: Jen at April 29, 2014 02:18 PM (/CN/i)

47 Things are getting a little crazy in the Ukraine. I'm glad I don't live there.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2014 02:18 PM (LJ7Ze)

48 So ... the success of the GOP with the American public seems to be inversely proportional to how popular it is here. Which is perhaps why the GOP ignores us. Seems most of the commenters here have sworn off the GOP, vowing to Let It Burn ... and Republicans are doing better than ever in the polls. The more hate the GOP gets here, the better it does in the polls. Interesting.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 29, 2014 02:19 PM (ZPrif)

49 Expect a lot of "recording" done at Republican fund raisers etc. We are gonna hear ever thing a Candidate says or does.... It's the only way they win...

Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at April 29, 2014 02:19 PM (9+ccr)

50 Right. But Republicans are in worse shape than 2010, too!

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 29, 2014 02:19 PM (8UCj3)

51 October surprise?

Secret recording of Boehner crying and throwing a temper tantrum.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 02:19 PM (W6ugU)

52 We should eye beam that fucken John McCain, eye beam him right into private life. Posted by: Killerdog at April 29, 2014 07:18 PM (Zdgjo) Can't we just send him back to the Vietnamese? I blame them for not finishing the job.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 02:19 PM (x3YFz)

53 "Obama's Accomplishments (subtitled: "I have to vote?") Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 07:18 PM (x3YFz) Hillary's Accomplishments as SOS (subtitled: "I have to cover my ass."

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 02:19 PM (A98Xu)

54 "Around this time in 2010, only 12 percent of Americans offered up positive opinions of the U.S. economy, compared to 29 percent today."

Posted by: The New Normal at April 29, 2014 02:20 PM (T8H6k)

55 Ambrose is the first driver in ages to actually land a punch. Looked solid.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 29, 2014 02:20 PM (ZPrif)

56 Eehhh, we're ckuf'd every which way to Sunday.

Posted by: dogfish at April 29, 2014 02:20 PM (nsOJa)

57 boulder t'hobo: "please GOP don't fuck it up" Too late. Joe Barton (R,TX) is as milquetoast as they get. He's in a very strongly-Right district and leads on just about zero legislation. He is in the process of legislating amnesty now. This from a guy who is safe, comfy, and just essentially says "aye" or "nay". Yet THIS is the legislation he's ready to sponsor.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 29, 2014 02:20 PM (1CroS)

58 Hillary's Accomplishments as SOS (subtitled: "I have to cover my ass." And what an ample ass it is...

Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at April 29, 2014 02:20 PM (9+ccr)

59 Oh great, here comes cranky.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 29, 2014 02:20 PM (5UteM)

60 MSNBC Defends John Kerry’s “Apartheid” Comment As “Not Unreasonable”… Then again, most libs agree wholeheartedly with what Kerry said. Via Newsbusters: Demonstrating once again that Israel remains a favorite whipping boy of the liberal media, there was John Heilemann of New York magazine on today’s Morning Joe defending John Kerry’s grotesque claim that Israel risked becoming an “apartheid state.” According to Heilemann, Kerry’s ugly accusation was “not actually an unreasonable statement.” If we can't beat the shit out of democrats this cycle we should just pack it in

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 02:21 PM (t3UFN)

61 Finally, someone makes me look like a winner!!!

Posted by: Da Cubbies at April 29, 2014 02:21 PM (PDqaO)

62 The more hate the GOP gets here, the better it does in the polls. Interesting. Posted by: Costanza Defense at April 29, 2014 07:19 PM (ZPrif) Watch the GOP3 candidates burn in primaries. popcorn? We're fixing to replace our own rep here because he's a "go along, get along" type.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 02:21 PM (x3YFz)

63 Enter the Pantsuit Messiah.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2014 02:21 PM (LJ7Ze)

64 Posted by: Jen at April 29, 2014 07:18 PM (/CN/i) That pissed me off too. He was trying to walk away.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 02:21 PM (A98Xu)

65 It just goes to show how desperate the electorate is if they think that the GOPe is going to be a major improvement.
 
As to the Dems, I'm sure they are still hard at work trying to find the right pretendoversy to promote to get them out of this jam.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2014 02:21 PM (wNF3N)

66 Give me an "A", A! Give me an "M", M! Give me an "N", N! Give me a, uh, "E" E!! Give me a 'hic' give me an "S", S! Give me a "Y", Y! Huh? Ah fuck, uh, what's that spell? OUT OF THE SHADOWS! Yay! YAY! Ooh, what else, what else? Can we do ACA 2? Medicare 3? I know, free lunch!

Posted by: John Boehner at April 29, 2014 02:21 PM (pgQxn)

67 @56 - Aussie.

Posted by: JEM at April 29, 2014 02:21 PM (o+SC1)

68 That poll is also skewed +11 (D)Marxist, BTW. For those scoring at home.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 29, 2014 02:21 PM (mZZZj)

69 Who are the 29% offering positive views on the economy-Leftists who have husband and wife employed full time and/or people on welfare?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 29, 2014 02:22 PM (XyM/Y)

70 Don't delude yourselves. There will be no Wave.

Posted by: Greg at April 29, 2014 02:22 PM (GW/jL)

71 I know it seems hopeless, but we must stand fast Vote the most conservative and let the chips fall where they may

Posted by: TheThinMan at April 29, 2014 02:22 PM (Qzz2p)

72 Boss Moss: it'd be interesting to see how long Russia lasts if Vlad the Impoisoner were to meet an untimely end. I'm getting the impression that Russia is held together by the force of Putin's will. That's the Russia which Putin wanted; that's the Russia Putin's got. Après lui . . .

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 29, 2014 02:22 PM (30eLQ)

73 Everybody does remember 2000+ when all R's ran the joint. Right? Fucked us about as bad as Historic First. Once they know they no longer need "the base", you will be forgotten.

Posted by: dogfish at April 29, 2014 02:22 PM (nsOJa)

74 all trolls are average joe . . .

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 29, 2014 02:23 PM (30eLQ)

75 ugh troll alert

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 02:23 PM (t3UFN)

76 Holy shit, not this again.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 29, 2014 02:23 PM (8UCj3)

77 Can't we just send him back to the Vietnamese? I blame them for not finishing the job. Or that. I wonder how much they would want to take him off our hands? Gotta be a lot though, the guy is a complete ass hole.

Posted by: Killerdog at April 29, 2014 02:23 PM (Zdgjo)

78 We'll probably lose the House.

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 02:24 PM (5UteM)

79 We ARE Charlie Brown holding the football..

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 29, 2014 02:24 PM (8UCj3)

80 At least the primaries will be fun to watch

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at April 29, 2014 02:24 PM (PDqaO)

81 Don't delude yourselves. There will be no Wave. Posted by: Greg at April 29, 2014 07:22 PM (GW/jL) Not sure what planet you're living on. On my planet, Earth, all I hear, day after day is "Enough of this shit!" from everyone. Enough. Everyone out of the fucking pool. Now.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 02:24 PM (x3YFz)

82 Whoever the fuck is hijacking my name, STOP IMMEDIATELY.

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 02:24 PM (GW/jL)

83 A professor at Grinnell College said that China’s authoritarian government is helping the environment because it does not have to wait for permission before taking action against greenhouse gases. “Authoritarian governments can make rapid decisions. Sometimes they’re benign, more often than not they’re malignant … but by and large, I think the Chinese government in the last few decades has been very enlightened,” biology professor David Campbell said in an interview with Scarlet & Black, the college’s official newspaper. “There’s been a magical transformation of the economy and of the welfare of its people. And it’s been brilliant,” he added. “No other civilization in the history of our species has accomplished so much, so fast. Magnificent.” [...] The professor also called Americans’ use of carbon “grotesquely immoral.” Weasel Zippers: And people like this get paid to say stupid shit like that?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2014 02:24 PM (t3UFN)

84 And? If by some off chance Ginsberg dies the best possible scenario is we might be able to block a full fledged Marxist from being on the court.
Yippee, break out the Champagne.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 29, 2014 02:25 PM (IV4od)

85 James Carville is on Greta saying "this poll is not good" and "with one more poll like this one, I'm getting out my straight razor". He underestimates John McCain and John Boehner pretty considerably.

Posted by: MTF at April 29, 2014 02:25 PM (Px4PF)

86 Posted by: logprof


You deserved it.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 29, 2014 02:25 PM (5UteM)

87 There is absolutely no fat that can be cut out of the federal budget.

Posted by: Tom Delay in 2006 at April 29, 2014 02:25 PM (P85Pz)

88 64 Enter the Pantsuit Messiah. Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2014 07:21 PM (LJ7Ze) How anyone, who has been paying any attention whatsoever for the last 20 years, could have anything but utter contempt for Benghazi McPIAPS is beyond me.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 29, 2014 02:25 PM (mZZZj)

89 "Obama's Accomplishments (subtitled: "I have to vote?")

Michele Obama: You're Never Fully Dressed Without a Smile. 

Posted by: pep at April 29, 2014 02:25 PM (4nR9/)

90 And the Republicans are poised to blow it.

Posted by: DangerGirl, who is tired at April 29, 2014 02:25 PM (GrtrJ)

91 Surely there are people around much of the country who drive around placers that had businesses open even a year ago which aren't now. Lots of "for rent signs" in shop windows here.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 29, 2014 02:25 PM (XyM/Y)

92 Rivvid!! *hic*

Posted by: John "Gabby" Boehner at April 29, 2014 02:25 PM (8ZskC)

93 We will lose the House and Boehner will still be speaker.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 29, 2014 02:26 PM (L02KD)

94 87 Posted by: logprof You deserved it. Posted by: Dr Spank at April 29, 2014 07:25 PM (5UteM) --How so? I am sure that socking a regular, non-troll commenter is a no-no here, even if an unwritten rule. It's just not kosher.

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 02:27 PM (GW/jL)

95 No

Posted by: logprofB at April 29, 2014 02:27 PM (Zdgjo)

96 Dear drooling tenured apparatchik of Grinnell Collectivist Commune ...

Please explain how this paragon of environmental guardianship now has up to 20% of its farmland contaminated by heavy metals such as cadmium?  Also you must answer in fifty or fewer words, can not mention Krugman, and be written on an 8th grade level.

Begin.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 02:28 PM (W6ugU)

97 92. Lots of "for rent signs" in shop windows here. Sandra Fluke has one of those too

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at April 29, 2014 02:28 PM (PDqaO)

98 “There’s been a magical transformation of the economy and of the welfare of its people. And it’s been brilliant,” he added. “No other civilization in the history of our species has accomplished so much, so fast. Yes, people pay money to be "educated" by these buffoons.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 29, 2014 02:28 PM (mZZZj)

99 does this mean we don't have to listen to that (alleged) pederast, Harry Reid?

Posted by: the Butcher at April 29, 2014 02:28 PM (++HCY)

100 so in other words, the members of the MSM are busy trying to dig out any dirt they can find on anyone(R)? Or will we be inundated with heartwarming stories of people who are no longer afraid of illness because they listened to Pajama Twat Boy and Got Covered? email from my dopey Sen Gillibrand: "Just this month, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker officially launched his reelection campaign. It only takes a glance at his record to see why we cannot let him win. Scott Walker repealed equal pay laws in Wisconsin, demolished collective bargaining rights for union members and passed one of the nationÂ’s most restrictive, undemocratic voter ID laws. He also cut funding for Planned Parenthood and restricted womenÂ’s access to critical care."

Posted by: mallfly at April 29, 2014 02:28 PM (bJm7W)

101 59
Hillary's Accomplishments as SOS (subtitled: "I have to cover my ass."

And what an ample ass it is... Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink


Say, I have a great idea for my next installation. 

Posted by: Christo at April 29, 2014 02:28 PM (4nR9/)

102 The professor also called Americans’ use of carbon “grotesquely immoral.”

Immoral ? I'll tell you what's immoral!

My untrimmed hedges, and my uncleaned houses!

Amnesty Now , bitchez!!

Posted by: John *hic* Boehner [/i] [/b] at April 29, 2014 02:29 PM (5ikDv)

103 I gave time $ and a truckload of enthusiasm to team GOP in '10 to Be the Wave!!! but I will crawl over broken glass to work against them if they pass amnesty

Posted by: ginaswo at April 29, 2014 02:29 PM (VGpgb)

104 I tell you what will happen: the Republican Party will win a 1 vote majority in the Senate and then John McCain will switch sides.

Posted by: Red Widow at April 29, 2014 02:29 PM (5HkmD)

105 We will lose the House and Boehner will still be speaker. Is this Common Core math?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 29, 2014 02:29 PM (8ZskC)

106 I think the Dems are in a strong position either way and Carville is doing a little song and dance for whatever reason. If Democrats get in they can pass every lousy program they can. If Republicans get in and things tank completely Democrats will blame Republicans. Maybe they'd prefer the later scenario. After all, they've run on blame Bush for at least 10 years now.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 29, 2014 02:29 PM (XyM/Y)

107 He underestimates John McCain and John Boehner pretty considerably. I beg your pardon?

Posted by: Jeb Bush at April 29, 2014 02:29 PM (pgQxn)

108 Not sure why you folks can't see it, but the Ds and RINOs are in for an ass kicking that's been a long time coming in Nov. People are **pissed**

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 02:29 PM (x3YFz)

109 Who are the 17 people that think the economy has improved? I know it said 17%, but I think it's wrong. I couldn't believe how much things cost last week when I went to the grocery store. My older brother loves to go grocery shopping & will go to Market Basket, Stop & Shop & Shaw's in one morning to get best prices. Prices were higher & sizes were smaller & people think economy is improving?

Posted by: Carol at April 29, 2014 02:29 PM (gjOCp)

110 98 92. Lots of "for rent signs" in shop windows here. Sandra Fluke has one of those too Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at April 29, 2014 07:28 PM (PDqaO) --She leases by the minute. At least that's what the writing on the shitter wall in Georgetown read.

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 02:29 PM (GW/jL)

111 SpongeBobSaget: "We will lose the House and Boehner will still be speaker." Heh. Incredibly, I almost think that could happen. The latter more so than the former.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 29, 2014 02:30 PM (1CroS)

112 There's a Mr. Wolf on the line saying something about avoiding premature mutual fellatio. Anybody want to take this?

Posted by: joncelli at April 29, 2014 02:30 PM (/AYWV)

113 Look, I know we sound pessimistic about the GOP leadership but we have history on our side.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 02:30 PM (A98Xu)

114 The Professor is a grotesque waste of carbon atoms.

Posted by: Furious George at April 29, 2014 02:30 PM (P85Pz)

115 "email from my dopey Sen Gillibrand:"

I don't get it, sounds like a good pro-Walker ad.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 29, 2014 02:31 PM (IV4od)

116 105 I tell you what will happen: the Republican Party will win a 1 vote majority in the Senate and thenJohn McCain will switch sides. You know, that is so close to possible - especially if the Tea Party turns out stronger than they had any f*ing clue about and we get some actual conservatives in there.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 29, 2014 02:31 PM (pgQxn)

117 "soothsayer you gotta take a breather man, you not as smrt as u think u r" I have an admirer.

Posted by: Soothsayer § at April 29, 2014 02:31 PM (8UCj3)

118 Prepare for the worst, be happy when it turns out less bad.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 29, 2014 02:31 PM (L02KD)

119 Juan McCain wants your pot and your chickens.

Posted by: Killerdog at April 29, 2014 02:31 PM (Zdgjo)

120 Let's revisit these polls when Boehner & Co pass amnesty. If they stay the same I'll get excited.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 29, 2014 02:32 PM (thLL8)

121 --How so? I am sure that socking a regular, non-troll commenter is a no-no here, even if an unwritten rule. It's just not kosher. Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 07:27 PM (GW/jL) You don't sock regular posters or you end up in a hole in the desert.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 02:32 PM (x3YFz)

122 So we infer from that poll that 29% of America (a) work in university 'studies' programs (b) are union brass or (c) will prop up a failed black president for racial motives alone.

Posted by: JEM at April 29, 2014 02:32 PM (o+SC1)

123 ok, logprof: sorry i called you a troll, I thought that was - literally - Average Joe socking Greg. Didn't remember the hash from prior threads. Dr Spank: don't sock regulars. Seriously.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 29, 2014 02:33 PM (30eLQ)

124 92 Surely there are people around much of the country who drive around placers that had businesses open even a year ago which aren't now. Lots of "for rent signs" in shop windows here. Posted by: FenelonSpoke

 

Wish I could still afford to drive!

And the "for rent" signs here are faded and torn from age. The San Fernando Valley is Closed, Going Out Of Business, or Arbierto Se Hable Espanol solomente. Yay Amnesty! Gaze upon California, and witness your future, muhuhahaha!

Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at April 29, 2014 02:33 PM (uopHF)

125 Prices were higher & sizes were smaller & people think economy is improving? Posted by: Carol at April 29, 2014 07:29 PM (gjOCp) --Government Maff: If you work 30 hours a week at Taco Bueno, you're working full time. If the prices of everything except fuel and food go down, then everyone is saving money.

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 02:33 PM (GW/jL)

126 We will lose the House and Boehner will still be speaker. He'll take my giant gavel only when he pries it from my cold, wizened, parchment-clad dead forelegs.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at April 29, 2014 02:33 PM (8ZskC)

127 Being a conservative after Reagan left office is like enjoying being beaten with a billy club around the head and neck, repeatedly.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 02:33 PM (A98Xu)

128 "I tell you what will happen: the Republican Party will win a 1 vote majority in the Senate and then John McCain will switch sides."

Yep. Because that's what a true _maverick_ would do.

Expect for the media to play McCain like a cheap harmonica with that tune.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 29, 2014 02:33 PM (noWW6)

129 105 I tell you what will happen: the Republican Party will win a 1 vote majority in the Senate and thenJohn McCain will switch sides. Posted by: Red Widow at April 29, 2014 07:29 PM (5HkmD) ============================ You might be over-optimistic. McCain could be aiming to be Hillary's! Veep running mate. At least then, I guess, Repubs would finally have a chance to get a new person into the Arizona Senate seat.

Posted by: MTF at April 29, 2014 02:34 PM (Px4PF)

130 If McCain does not flip, well not in a mental way, it would probably be Snowe who would find her true home as a Dem.

The one you got to worry about is if McCain goes Maverick and becomes an I so both sides have to schmooze him to get their stuff passed.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 02:34 PM (W6ugU)

131 The Professor is a grotesque waste of carbon atoms. I could say the same thing about the Skipper.

Posted by: The Professor at April 29, 2014 02:34 PM (8ZskC)

132 109 Not sure why you folks can't see it, but the Ds and RINOs are in for an ass kicking that's been a long time coming in Nov. People are **pissed** Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 07:29 PM (x3YFz) Still shell shocked from the utter stupidity of, roughly, 34% of the voting populace.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 29, 2014 02:34 PM (mZZZj)

133 115 The Professor is a grotesque waste of carbon atoms. Posted by: Furious George at April 29, 2014 07:30 PM (P85Pz) --I thought that was Gilligan. Of course, the only reason that bunch survived so long was that the headhunters were even more incompetent than Gilligan.

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 02:35 PM (GW/jL)

134 Giving up the deficit reduction from sequester, cutting military pensions, fees out the axx in GOP legislation and now amnesty But I should pull the lever for these clowns why again? Cause they respect my views? No they, like the rest of the cabal of dunces in DC, consider ALL of us bitter Clingers As the inimitable Jack Wagner sang, Make Me Believe It End the amnesty talk so I can at least pretend to believe you're working on my behalf through the elections mkay GOP leadership?

Posted by: ginaswo at April 29, 2014 02:35 PM (VGpgb)

135 If the Pubbies don't get on with letting gay illegal aliens have abortions on the government dime, they're done for.

Posted by: Dr. Doo-Doo at April 29, 2014 02:35 PM (j4rrd)

136 Well don't post as Greg, he's a post buzzkill.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 29, 2014 02:35 PM (5UteM)

137 tangonine: "People are **pissed**" And yet they're still re-electing the same sorts of people they always have for the higher positions. Behavior patterns are extremely hard to change. Incumbency will still reign supreme almost always. It's an indictment of The Idiocracy, but that's who we are until absolute, inarguable, gob-smacking reality hits "us". We must fail until we can fail no more.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 29, 2014 02:35 PM (1CroS)

138 And Bonehead and the GOPe are expecting us all to line up and vote for them.... Because they suck less than the Dems... But the questions presuppose a binary decision set... and that decision set is one many of us are tired of being forced upon us. Both Parties suck... but a Plague on BOTH Houses is not usually an option in modern polling.

Posted by: HIts of the 70s! at April 29, 2014 02:35 PM (84gbM)

139 Not sure who they think is voting for them after they pass amnesty. Not me, that's for sure.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 29, 2014 02:36 PM (Ra/a8)

140 "I tell you what will happen: the Republican Party will win a 1 vote majority in the Senate and then John McCain will switch sides." Yep. Because that's what a true _maverick_ would do. Expect for the media to play McCain like a cheap harmonica with that tune. Posted by: torquewrench at April 29, 2014 07:33 PM (noWW6) I just wish I was face to face with him so I could put the double fuck you birds in his face and he couldn't reach me with his little dinosaur arms. That...that right there would be my first and last YouTube vid.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 02:36 PM (x3YFz)

141 124 ok, logprof: sorry i called you a troll, I thought that was - literally - Average Joe socking Greg. Didn't remember the hash from prior threads. Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 29, 2014 07:33 PM (30eLQ) --Heh, I forgot about Average Joe. It's just my compulsion to through in a Greg sock for old time's sake whenever a Wave is mentioned.

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 02:36 PM (GW/jL)

142 I agree about empty stores and furthermore there are empty houses everywhere. I also think people are "pissed" we'll see come Nov

Posted by: NativeNH at April 29, 2014 02:37 PM (3SbIG)

143 So the first round of ads are out from Sens. Landrieu and Shaheen, and they're punching back hard.

I remember a whole lot of self-congratulatory crap in 2012 among conservatives leading up to the election, the "Relax, we got this" line of patter, that ended in disaster.

Not relaxing.

Remember, the only poll that really counts is the official one on Election Day.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 29, 2014 02:37 PM (noWW6)

144 I see no one is saying Ginger or Mary Ann are grotesque wastes of carbon...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 02:38 PM (W6ugU)

145 Nobody in the Senate will actually switch parties, they get much more play being "the voice of reason" in a bitterly partisan congress or some such shit. It's all about their fucking egos, the country and their constituents are well down the list for these worthless fucks.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 29, 2014 02:38 PM (IV4od)

146 Still shell shocked from the utter stupidity of, roughly, 34% of the voting populace. Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at April 29, 2014 07:34 PM (mZZZj) Wait until their bills (electric, health care) start coming in. Popcorn? Extra salty for you Marines.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 02:38 PM (x3YFz)

147 137 Well don't post as Greg, he's a post buzzkill. Posted by: Dr Spank at April 29, 2014 07:35 PM (5UteM) --"Greg" was supposed to be officially banned, but nevertheless popped up for a while afterward. Fortunately, I think that Cheesehead troll is gone for good.

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 02:39 PM (GW/jL)

148
Poll: Democrats In Worse Shape in 2014 Than They Were in Big Red Wave 2010
Written by David Freddoso



Examiner experts predict presidential race
NOVEMBER 5, 2012

David Freddoso
Obama: 275
Romney: 263

Romney wins Florida, Virginia, Colorado and surprises in Iowa (after a recount), but drops Ohio and falls short by a few thousand votes in Wisconsin.

Oooo -- so close.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 29, 2014 02:40 PM (kdS6q)

149 I would be surprised if Gillibrand isn't the "bright" youngish attractive woman on the VP ticket in 2014.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 29, 2014 02:40 PM (XyM/Y)

150 Both Parties suck... but a Plague on BOTH Houses is not usually an option in modern polling. Civil disobedience is the future.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 29, 2014 02:40 PM (0hIQR)

151

Ocare is not even 50% implemented yet, is it?

 

I'm asking because I don't know.

 

It seems like it's only about 30% implemented, since the Employer Mandate has been delayed.

And that's how a majority of people get their health insurance.

 

And then, there is the Tax for having a 'Cadillac Plan'...which hasn't kicked in yet.

 

 

So we should be pushing this...

 

"ObamaCare isn't even at Half-Shaft yet. Just wait till you get the whole thing!"

 

I know. Needs work. But you get what I mean.

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 02:40 PM (emg5o)

152 Fuck the GOP. That is all.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 29, 2014 02:41 PM (rSIYI)

153 You might be over-optimistic. McCain could be aiming to be Hillary's! Veep running mate. At least then, I guess, Repubs would finally have a chance to get a new person into the Arizona Senate seat. And if there was some way to strap brushes to John's head he could double as a douchbrush.

Posted by: Killerdog at April 29, 2014 02:41 PM (Zdgjo)

154 But yeah, I shouldn't have done it, sorry.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 29, 2014 02:41 PM (5UteM)

155 WHAT can Landrieu run on?:. Getting pork? She voted for Obamacare. So did Shaheen.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 29, 2014 02:41 PM (XyM/Y)

156 McCain: no honour since 1988. Charles Keating proved he could be bought. Just like the British in 1779 proved that... a certain other American patriot could be bought.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 29, 2014 02:42 PM (30eLQ)

157 Obamacare will be delayed again till after the midterms. then till after the 2016 Pres Election.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 29, 2014 02:42 PM (XyM/Y)

158 Biden/Giffords '16!

Posted by: --- at April 29, 2014 02:43 PM (j4rrd)

159 Never fear.  The one thing in a million to rally the democrats to victory is what the stupid party will roll out along side of their dicks.

Posted by: Fritz at April 29, 2014 02:44 PM (oJUxt)

160 I really need to win the lottery...

http://www.lfj.jp/lfj_2014e/

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 02:45 PM (W6ugU)

161 148. I think that Cheesehead troll is gone for good. Death to all cheeseheads!!!!

Posted by: MilitarizedThugCopJoe at April 29, 2014 02:45 PM (SOO5m)

162 One GOP candidate will say something. The media will dogpile him. The GOP will run away and apologize. Fingerpointing, and then a disappointing finish, followed by a call for amnesty and abandoning the party platform. Bakers and photographers will still be jailed if they step out of line.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 29, 2014 02:46 PM (0hIQR)

163 Civil disobedience is the future. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 29, 2014 07:40 PM (0hIQR) Adhering to standards of behavior based on moral grounds is the future. Also the past. We're just in the middle right now.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 02:47 PM (x3YFz)

164 Any who thinks it will matter, please raise your hand. Retake the Senate? Even with 2/3 majority? So what. It would take 66 there who truly revere the constitution. Love America. Hate corruption. And, bash all you want, there's only one person out there who has PROVEN that's who they really are. And a healthy portion of you folks don't like her.

Posted by: teej at April 29, 2014 02:47 PM (pQdNP)

165 Agree that regular people are pissed, I am hearing it every day. Ditto the closed stores everywhere. But still, he got re-elected. None of this is new. Cognitive .... dissonance .... walls .... closing in .... can't breathe .... *drains shot glass* Aaahhh, that's better. I guess I'm saying that I would like to think that people are waking up to where we are and what's happening, but I have thought that before and it was a good lesson in not believing things that you want really bad to be true.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 29, 2014 02:47 PM (Ra/a8)

166 I've called my Representative (Pete Sessions) and Senator (John Cornyn) to express my extreme displeasure with the idea of "comprehensive immigration reform".  As I've told them several times, if it passes I will vote against them.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at April 29, 2014 02:49 PM (uhMMS)

167 And, bash all you want, there's only one person out there who has PROVEN that's who they really are. And a healthy portion of you folks don't like her. Posted by: teej at April 29, 2014 07:47 PM (pQdNP) there is no perfect candidate. There is, however, an almost perfect Constitution.

Posted by: tangonine at April 29, 2014 02:50 PM (x3YFz)

168 "And, bash all you want, there's only one person out there who has PROVEN that's who they really are"

Ahem

Posted by: Ted Cruz at April 29, 2014 02:51 PM (uhMMS)

169 Sarah on the ballot got me to vote for that repulsive slime-worm, whatsisname. And I would do it again.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 29, 2014 02:52 PM (Ra/a8)

170 teej: "Retake the Senate? Even with 2/3 majority?" Did we say 2/3? We meant 3/4. Our hands are simply tied.

Posted by: GOPe at April 29, 2014 02:52 PM (1CroS)

171 Wow their sad story really touches my heart. I'm going to have to go out and drink a lot.

Posted by: Marta Richards at April 29, 2014 02:55 PM (GVA22)

172 Some here look at Boehner and others as simply pragmatists. I just don't see that, at all. They seem to capitulate at every turn. There really never seems to be a hill to die on.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 02:56 PM (A98Xu)

173 That's because they don't really disagree about anything .... and they definitely agree that being in Congress is a really sweet job.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 29, 2014 02:58 PM (Ra/a8)

174 Sarah on the ballot got me to vote for that repulsive slime-worm, whatsisname. And I would do it again. Ditto here. I voted Arnold / Palin, mainly because I expected Palin would keep Arnold from going full traitor. I didn't vote Bland / Blander in the next election; because I flatly didn't trust either member of that ticket, especially given the likelihood of a Reid Senate.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 29, 2014 02:59 PM (30eLQ)

175 I like what I've seen/heard out of Ted... so far. And maybe he's done things that have "proven" those points, but I don't know about them. I do know about the things Mrs Palin did in Alaska. Ted has talked a good game so far. And maybe, if he was in a position to really do something he would. We don't need maybe right now.

Posted by: teej at April 29, 2014 02:59 PM (GX2fm)

176 "Sarah on the ballot got me to vote for that repulsive slime-worm, whatsisname. And I would do it again."

Yikes. I would vote for a ticket with SP on it but I just don't know if I could stomach another round of McCain.

Not least because of what he allowed his campaign staff to do: anonymously rubbishing her to the press afterward to distract attention from their own total lack of professional competence in said campaign.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 29, 2014 03:00 PM (noWW6)

177 I have to admit I think the Dems have voter fraud on their side in Presidential elections and anything short of a huge landslide for Republicans in battleground states will mean Pres. Hillary. All they have to do is steal some votes in Ohio, Virginia, and Florida and keep the rest of the states they always win and that's it. That is no problem. I say that from Louisiana, where Mary Landrieu will steal enough votes in Orleans Parish precincts Resthaven, Garden of Memories, and St. Louis Cemetery No. 1 LATE on election night to win her Senate seat again. Believe it. If Landrieu wins with the late returns in Orleans, I will forget ever seeing a Republican in the WH again.

Posted by: Marta Richards at April 29, 2014 03:01 PM (GVA22)

178 The NV thing showed me there is still fire in the heart of some Americans, made me feel good and gave me a glimmer of hope

Posted by: NativeNH at April 29, 2014 03:02 PM (3SbIG)

179 I don't think Palin would agree for another round of being McCain's wingwoman. Yeah, I know; she did support him over Hayworth. But that was more because Hayworth wasn't better.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 29, 2014 03:02 PM (30eLQ)

180 I've tried not to say, "I'd never vote for _______" because against a lib I'd vote for almost anyone. However, I'd never vote for McCain again. Period.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 03:04 PM (A98Xu)

181 Being a conservative after Reagan left office is like enjoying being beaten with a billy club around the head and neck, repeatedly. A perpetual wood shampoo.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 29, 2014 03:04 PM (thLL8)

182 torquewrench, I phrased that badly. Her former running mate, never again. Sarah and almost anyone else absolutely.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 29, 2014 03:05 PM (Ra/a8)

183 I am also in the, "voter fraud is more impactful than we think" crowd.

Posted by: Seems legit at April 29, 2014 03:06 PM (A98Xu)

184 Yeah, vote fraud is huge. That's why they're so against ID.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 29, 2014 03:07 PM (Ra/a8)

185 Executions make me hungry. I guess it's all that talk about last meals. Plus, they always request fried chicken and who doesn't love fried chicken?

Posted by: Graham Greene at April 29, 2014 03:07 PM (8c12T)

186 Yeah, vote fraud is huge. That's why they're so against ID. We need a white panthers brigade at polling places.

Posted by: Behind Enemy Lines at April 29, 2014 03:08 PM (thLL8)

187 Only 2 ways to challenge them that would work: - require ID - know everyone in your precinct well enough to spot a ringer.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 29, 2014 03:11 PM (Ra/a8)

188 Fuck the GOP.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at April 29, 2014 03:12 PM (eAJwE)

189 Only 2 ways to challenge them that would work: - require ID - know everyone in your precinct well enough to spot a ringer. There's always the time-tested tradition of the twenty-page literacy test. Seriously, though, with some LiV's I don't think you'd need more than one or two questions.

Posted by: Marta Richards at April 29, 2014 03:14 PM (GVA22)

190 BTW- the mooch is coming to my neck of the woods in a couple of weeks. Anyone know where all the $ that just her vacations have cost us can be found in one place? I feel a sign coming on. One that points out what she really is.

Posted by: teej at April 29, 2014 03:14 PM (erYRT)

191 BFD. What did the "red wave" do? Nada. I don't expect 2014 to do anything either. The culture is where we're losing and will keep losing until we get more Breitbarts.

Posted by: rrpjr at April 29, 2014 03:16 PM (s/yC1)

192 Anyone know where all the $ that just her vacations have cost us can be found in one place? There is a non-partisan oversight group intended to provide information to taxpayers--well-known, just can't remember its name right now. They have the info on ALL presidential vacations/spending, etc., for YEARS. I think it's available online. I warn you, though, that Laura Bush spent a lot on some trips to Africa--though she did not have the gall to deny reporters any access during the trips like Michelle does. Plus many of Michelle's trips are pure vacations but are charged to taxpayers.

Posted by: Marta Richards at April 29, 2014 03:18 PM (GVA22)

193 Any predictions on what ridiculous thing a GOP candidate will say to turn this election into a banner year for Democrats? My prediction: Some wild claim about hospitals burning aborted fetuses for heat. Wait, what?

Posted by: Objection Sustained at April 29, 2014 03:21 PM (SgzxZ)

194 RNC, our secret weapon.

Posted by: Debbie Wasserman Schultz at April 29, 2014 03:22 PM (1mtKP)

195 The Bush's, while I'm not a fan of either president or Jeb, were actually doing things in Africa to try and help out over there. Unlike barky. And truth is truth and let the chips fall where they may.

Posted by: teej at April 29, 2014 03:24 PM (M3APu)

196 Need to "feed" the fone. Love each other fellow babies.

Posted by: teej at April 29, 2014 03:27 PM (M3APu)

197 Breaking news: Oklahoma execution with new drug cocktail failed. Clayton Locket's execution halted after 16 minutes. No word on whether he's dead or alive. Second execution for tonight stayed until further information on drug efficacy is known.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at April 29, 2014 03:28 PM (kXoT0)

198 The Bush's, while I'm not a fan of either president or Jeb, were actually doing things in Africa to try and help out over there. I agree that Laura Bush was actually on a particular mission when she went. But the media considers the trips of both FLOTUS's entirely equivalent and unless Michelle spent lots more (and IIRC she hasn't) the issue is that Michelle is obviously doing her trips for her own fun and has no overarching purpose whatsoever. Just saying that I don't think you'll get traction. But there isn't any likelihood you'd get traction even if you had a photo of Mooch stuffing her suitcases full of Benjamins and handing them to Al Qaeda sympathizers in Yemen.

Posted by: Marta Richards at April 29, 2014 03:29 PM (GVA22)

199 Okay, my fetus for heat scenario is far-fetched. I'll bet some Republican running for dog catcher will be accused of killing puppies and kittens. And he will try to back down off of it by saying he only does it when they are sick or vicious or a home cannot be found for them. But, let's face it, we KNOW that ALL Republicans want to kill puppies and kittens. Vote Democrat.

Posted by: Objection Sustained at April 29, 2014 03:31 PM (SgzxZ)

200 I'm against capital punishment mainly because I don't think I have the right to kill anyone or to be in favor of killing anyone. But there are several political reasons why I also am against it. It is very expensive for the taxpayers because of all the automatic appeals and lawyers who get paid to do them, and it plays into the meme that conservatives are mean, especially when something like a failure to kill expeditiously happens as apparently just did in Oklahoma. I really believe that life in prison is much more of a punishment in my opinion and has just as much of a deterrent effect. I understand victims are not given their "eye for an eye" but as a person who loves the Bill of Rights I think we have to be less interested in victims' rights and more interested in preserving individual rights, so in these instances I'd make them settle for life without parole. It is very grim in a maximum security state prison and I would rather die than be in one even for a day.

Posted by: Marta Richards at April 29, 2014 03:35 PM (GVA22)

201 On all other numbers, Democrats are in worse shape today than they were four years ago. The Republican "leadership" is hard at work, trying to reverse that number, with their latest push for illegal alien amnesty and we-don't-want-to-try-to-repeal-Obamacare talk.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 29, 2014 03:40 PM (jOKH1)

202 "I really believe that life in prison is much more of a punishment in my opinion and has just as much of a deterrent effect."

The fact that very few death row inmates waive all their appeals and press to have their execution expedited belies your belief.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at April 29, 2014 04:09 PM (uhMMS)

203 Are these the same Republicans that want to grant amnesty to 30m of the Mexican underclass? Or are these the Republicans who want to keep and improve Obamacare? Little help, here?

Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at April 29, 2014 04:11 PM (ZG3Fa)

204 Fuuuuuuuuk....we have to do something so we don't regain power, that means responsibility...pass amnesty, keep Oshitcare..do something!!

Posted by: R's in washington at April 29, 2014 04:41 PM (M+evy)

205 Yeah, and Romney's gonna win in 2012. Take yer goddam predictions and shove it where the sun don't shine.

Posted by: Corona at April 29, 2014 05:13 PM (fh2Y7)

206 Who cares? I don't. We've got Boehner all primed to grant amnesty, we've got Rand Paul telling us it would be too hard to repeal obamacare. Of course there's McCain, Rubio, Ryan, Cantor, McConnell, etc., also. I might contribute to an individual Republican, but not a chance I'm voting for The R by default. If I wanted a Democrat, I'd vote for one. We've got Chamblis working with Feinstein to ensure that the NSA can spy on us, and compel telcos and ISPs to turn over all their data. When you've got a so called conservative working with Feinstein, at some point you have to say enough. I've reached that point.

Posted by: jbarntt at April 29, 2014 05:22 PM (UNFot)

207 "I don't expect 2014 to do anything either. The culture is where we're losing and will keep losing until we get more Breitbarts." --- Indeed.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at April 29, 2014 11:54 PM (7mQyC)

208 Objectively speaking, the economy is in better shape.

Objectively speaking, the Democrats deserve utter destruction and ignomy for a generation for the parade of lies that they inflicted on america in passing Obamacare, and for Obamacare itself.

Posted by: Obama Lied Jobs Died at April 30, 2014 07:44 AM (wT9UL)

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