October 31, 2010

Poll: 51% Want Obama Defeated in Primary
— Ace

51% of Democrats, that is. Only 47% want him renominated.

Will he be primaried? Not seriously. Maybe as a protest by either an old DLC type or someone of the open left.

No one can primary Obama because even if you won the nomination you'd lose the general, with the critical bloc of black Democratic voters strongly turned off by it all.

Still, if this sentiment persists, he might take another page from LBJ. "If nominated, I will not run, if elected, I will not serve..."

If we assume, correctly, that Obama is all about adoration and isn't very happy about having the first real job of his life (and first real accountability), the Obama Declares Victory and Goes Home scenario becomes more likely.

He needs an easy gig, like running some kind of foundation or think tank. Something where he can work ten or twelve hours a week, golf with celebrities, and receive adoration of (smaller but more, um, selective) crowds.


Posted by: Ace at 09:54 AM | Comments (127)
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1 In less than 2 years- Jimmy Carter is impressed

Posted by: jjshaka at October 31, 2010 09:55 AM (/qvMi)

2 I knew the scales would fall off, but I had no idea it would be so soon.

Posted by: logprof at October 31, 2010 09:55 AM (BP6Z1)

3 Lame. Ass. Duck.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at October 31, 2010 09:56 AM (cxGtL)

4

But there'll be a PPP poll out on Monday that puts him ahead by +3.

(Of cats most likely to vote in my mother's basement...)

Posted by: Greg Sock at October 31, 2010 09:57 AM (fBx34)

5

Obama and Bill Clinton have been campaigning at warp speed here in Pennsylvania. They are mounting a GOTV effort with youth and minorities. Obama's voice was hoarse as he was screaming at this latest rally in Philadelphia that he wanted the volunteers to knock on 20,000 doors.

If the sentiment among Democrats is as lukewarm as this story suggests, these Democrat volunteers may have a situation on their hands.

Posted by: Marla at October 31, 2010 09:57 AM (kD8Fh)

6 You know this benefits? Mitt Romney. 

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at October 31, 2010 09:58 AM (264X9)

7 Could Evan Bayh be reached for comment?

Posted by: Delta Smelt at October 31, 2010 09:58 AM (AZWim)

8 Nice, very nice.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 31, 2010 09:59 AM (Y6JCM)

9 It's the 47% who you want to avoid at all costs.  Most of them have probably been living off the government since they were spawned.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 31, 2010 09:59 AM (UOM48)

10

Jimmah is never gonna lose the tag of "worst president evah" if he doesn't quit defending Chocolate Jesus.  What a goober. 

Did you see what I did there?

Posted by: RushBabe at October 31, 2010 09:59 AM (a3Z62)

11 All I can say is "Dude?"

Posted by: Jon Stewart at October 31, 2010 09:59 AM (264X9)

12 Obama's voice was hoarse as he was screaming at this latest rally in Philadelphia that he wanted the volunteers to knock on 20,000 doors.

Posted by: Marla at October 31, 2010 02:57 PM (kD8Fh)

I'm in Montgomery county.  They knock on my door, and I'll answer with my shotgun.

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 31, 2010 09:59 AM (c1oyg)

13 Almost sad to watch...almost. He reminds me of a drunk trying to hit somebody but is just swinging wildly at the air...he knows he is in serious trouble and MUST fight...but he has no idea who or where the enemy is.
Alas, it is he.

Posted by: NfromNC at October 31, 2010 10:00 AM (kR57Q)

14

Since most Democrats won't want to touch this, that makes Obama vulnerable to a black LaRouchie.

Kesha Rogers, Democratic nominee in 2012? You heard it here first...

Posted by: Zimriel at October 31, 2010 10:01 AM (94eYr)

15 Among Democrats, 47 percent say Obama should be challenged for the 2012 nomination and 51 percent say he should not be opposed. Those favoring a contest include most who backed Hillary Rodham Clinton's unsuccessful faceoff against Obama for the 2008 nomination. The poll did not ask if Democrats would support particular challengers

Either way, sucks being him

Posted by: Some guy who actually reads the link at October 31, 2010 10:01 AM (fiCSd)

16 This is insane. No sane person could want Obama to be primaried, only the crazy insane extremist tea baggers do not like Obama.

Posted by: John Stewart at October 31, 2010 10:02 AM (Y6JCM)

17 If you don't count my assbaggery after I was defeated I would say Mr Obama has the "worst President" award tied up. 

Posted by: Jimmah Carter at October 31, 2010 10:02 AM (264X9)

18 Shweet!  Would someone be kind enough to pass the pudding?

Posted by: Peaches at October 31, 2010 10:03 AM (zxpIo)

19 Crap, meant to say, "Ace, you got it backwards"

Among Democrats, 47 percent say Obama should be challenged for the 2012 nomination and 51 percent say he should not be opposed. Those favoring a contest include most who backed Hillary Rodham Clinton's unsuccessful faceoff against Obama for the 2008 nomination. The poll did not ask if Democrats would support particular challengers

Either way, sucks being him

Posted by: Some guy who actually reads the link at October 31, 2010 10:04 AM (fiCSd)

20
"If nominated, I will not run, if elected, I will not serve..."

He is not serving now.

Posted by: Atomic Roach at October 31, 2010 10:04 AM (rMMMP)

21 Interesting...

Stewart and Colbert's rally was attended by three times as many people as Beck's.

Organizers say 250,000 crowded the National Mall for the event by comedians Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. Satire and laughs ruled the rally, with a rare serious message from Stewart at the end: These are 'hard times, not end times.'

Reporting from Washington — A high-spirited crowd numbering, by some estimates, more than 200,000 swamped the National Mall on Saturday, overwhelming the city's public transportation system as people flocked to what organizers billed as a "comedic call for calm."

LA Times


An estimated 87,000 people attended a rally organized by talk-radio host and Fox News commentator Glenn Beck Saturday in Washington, according to a crowd estimate commissioned by CBS News.

Posted by: Greg at October 31, 2010 10:04 AM (7+pP9)

22 I'm tanned, rested and ready.

Posted by: Zombie LBJ at October 31, 2010 10:05 AM (264X9)

23

I'm in Montgomery county.  They knock on my door, and I'll answer with my shotgun.

Not sure, but I think they were rallying city voters only -could have been metro-area wide though. I think Toomey/Corbett will win, it may be closer than we expected. The white collar indies are really pissed. And then the rest of the state has all those Reagan democrats,  the western PA dems are pissed at Onorato about the booze tax. The unions are coming out strong for Dems, what else is new?

PA will be red again - for a while. I think the state house is going to revert to Republican as well.

Posted by: Marla at October 31, 2010 10:05 AM (kD8Fh)

24

Looks like I cashed out three years too early.  Damn.

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at October 31, 2010 10:05 AM (HGV/y)

25 And, hey, it couldn't hurt to put on our very best socks and hit the lefy blogs and start promoting another Dean run. 

Posted by: Peaches at October 31, 2010 10:06 AM (zxpIo)

26 er, lefty

Posted by: Peaches at October 31, 2010 10:06 AM (zxpIo)

27
Uh-fucking-Oh!

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at October 31, 2010 10:06 AM (KL+Ut)

28 Since the day he won the election I've been saying Obama will not run for a second term. The media will eventually turn on him after the Democratic party concludes they will be better off with Hillary in 2012. The meme will be that Obama is too thoughtful and cerebral for the dirty politics in DC. He'll attempt to save face by announcing he's taking a some sort of position at the UN or some other world entity.

Posted by: F Muldoon at October 31, 2010 10:06 AM (KHAc5)

29 The funny thing about this attitude on the Left is that Obama whose "Let me bullshit people about how pragmatic and centrist I am compared to how truly far Left I am" ratio was highest among any possible candidate (even though, of course, he never fooled anyone who actually cared to look into his ideology). The idea that there is some candidate out there who can promise to govern further to the Left of Obama and win the general election is delusional. I don't care how many surveys the Left trots out saying people love this or that program "in theory" because once people see how much that great program actually costs (don't forget to add in the costs of the post-retirement pensions and healthcare coverage for the shitstains who administer the program, either), they don't want it, no matter how good it sounds "in theory". It's the fact that all these "great programs" costs are now becoming more and more apparent which is turning people off of them.

Not that I give a shit if the Left runs someone to the Left of Stalin in every election from now to kingdom come. In fact, I'd prefer they do because it makes beating them that much easier. By all means, idiots, hang on to that collectivist dream.

Posted by: BS Inc. at October 31, 2010 10:08 AM (Qtmfs)

30 The black vote does not have to be a problem.  Hillary could run as his VP, thus pleasing the whole Dim vote, then he could resign soon after the election.  I think that by 2012, all of the Dims will realize and admit that he is unqualified to be president.  But don't forget that Hillbuzz thinks there is a huge scandal that the DNC is trying to suppress.

Posted by: chillin the most at October 31, 2010 10:09 AM (6IV8T)

31
It's The Economy Stupidtm.

Hahahahaha!

The dumb shit was too busy ruining the health care sector, jerking us off with phantom green jobs, and giving speeches off-shore.


Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at October 31, 2010 10:09 AM (KL+Ut)

32 Since the day he won the election I've been saying Obama will not run for a second term. The media will eventually turn on him after the Democratic party concludes they will be better off with Hillary in 2012. The meme will be that Obama is too thoughtful and cerebral for the dirty politics in DC. He'll attempt to save face by announcing he's taking a some sort of position at the UN or some other world entity.

Posted by: F Muldoon at October 31, 2010 03:06 PM (KHAc5)


I think you're right.   Obama likes running for president.  He doesn't like being president.  Look for Hillary to resign as SecState shortly after Tuesday's bloodbath.

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 31, 2010 10:09 AM (c1oyg)

33 Man, the Cowboys suck

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 31, 2010 10:10 AM (c1oyg)

34 Better hope not. Obama dropping out is literally the only way we can lose 2012.

Posted by: someone at October 31, 2010 10:10 AM (1CSK7)

35
2011 is going to be a most interesting year.

Expect:
-- lots of shakeups in the Obama admin
-- Joe Biden to "spend more time with his family"
-- a big push to legalize the illegals
-- yet another  new "D" symbol

Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at October 31, 2010 10:11 AM (KL+Ut)

36
Obama was supposed to lower the sea levels, restore the welfare state, give us single payer medical care (which is perfection), make life 100% fair, 200% fair for minorities, and do it all his grandiose celebrity aura and an Andrew Sullivan approved speech. Jobs and work were to be restored with our new found socialist labor/ union order. Corporations were to be returned to their rightful owner, the people! ...or destroyed.  Jobs were to pour out of the midnight sky like tears from a rainbow unicorn.

I'm very disappointed.

Posted by: Urban leftard at October 31, 2010 10:11 AM (0fzsA)

37 It would be interesting if Hillary ran on a platform to repeal Obamacare. Nah, never happen.

Posted by: Minuteman at October 31, 2010 10:12 AM (264X9)

38 I have been remiss in my holiday greetings.  Happy Halloween to the Moron Nation!

Posted by: RushBabe at October 31, 2010 10:13 AM (a3Z62)

39 But don't forget that Hillbuzz thinks there is a huge scandal that the DNC is trying to suppress.

Really?  Must go check it out.  And hope they are right.  I love a nice juicy scandal!

Posted by: Peaches at October 31, 2010 10:13 AM (zxpIo)

40 "If nominated, I will not run, if elected, I will not serve..."

That would piss the black voters off just as much if not more, because they would take it that he was forced out, and you can bet a lot of them would assign racist reasons to it.

Posted by: ThePaganTemple at October 31, 2010 10:13 AM (1Jeaj)

41 Hey, there is a reason why Bill is campaigning only for people who endorsed Hillary over Obama, and why Hillary has arranged to be in New Zealand for Election Day. (Moi? I had nothing to do with this disaster!)

Posted by: Oregon Is Dumber Than Dirt at October 31, 2010 10:13 AM (Hu/Da)

42 Saracuda mentioned this in West Virginia the other day. On the Discovery Channel, after Sarah Palin's Alaska, - Barack Obama's Golf Courses.

Posted by: Some other Jackson at October 31, 2010 10:14 AM (WAxE/)

43 So what have we learned? You can't govern the country by saying you hate all white people except the nice rich ones with two masters degrees who work for the government, listen to NPR, and live in big cities.

Obama can't hide the absolute contempt he has for 90% of white people. If you are rural then you are just white trash. If you are suburbanite then you are boring and soulless. If you are a well-off suburbanite then you are a Stepford Wife evil facsimile of a real person. If you a poor suburbanite then you are just white trash in denial.

Posted by: buckofama at October 31, 2010 10:14 AM (QcFbt)

44 Yeah, thick cankles running in 2012 promoting herself as an old time progressive would be real neat. Got ta love that.

Posted by: 4ican at October 31, 2010 10:14 AM (Ceb/w)

45 36
Obama was supposed to lower the sea levels, restore the welfare state, give us single payer medical care (which is perfection), make life 100% fair, 200% fair for minorities, and do it all his grandiose celebrity aura and an Andrew Sullivan approved speech. Jobs and work were to be restored with our new found socialist labor/ union order. Corporations were to be returned to their rightful owner, the people! ...or destroyed.  Jobs were to pour out of the midnight sky like tears from a rainbow unicorn.

I'm very disappointed.

Posted by: Urban leftard at October 31, 2010 03:11 PM (0fzsA)

Your expectations are much too high. I just want to know: can he operate an umbrella?

Posted by: Minuteman at October 31, 2010 10:14 AM (264X9)

46
The rich do not pay enough tax.  Obama must fix this problem if jobs are to return.
Tax the rich!  Well, ok, tax people who make 250K, but make sure Google, Microsoft, ultra-wealthy celebrities and Warren Buffet are exempt.

Posted by: Urban leftard at October 31, 2010 10:14 AM (0fzsA)

47 Better hope not. Obama dropping out is literally the only way we can lose 2012.

Posted by: someone at October 31, 2010 03:10 PM (1CSK7)

Can't beat something with nothing, though.  It depends who gets nominated.  I hope the Repubs drop their "next guy in line" philosophy (Romney?) and pick someone of substance. 

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 31, 2010 10:15 AM (c1oyg)

48

51% of Democrats -- sweet fancy moses that is spectacular!!

The other day I  had a Dem at work (or a progressive -- I don't think there are any 'Dems' left. they all went full retard and embraced Obama. Andy old-school Dems now call themselves indies), tell me that we were like SwatchWatches -- a fad only. I told him I didn't see how that was possible when the progs on MSNBC (namely the spittler/leg tingler person) even concede the point that we are a centrist-right country. He said, "NOT TRUE. That's just not true! You people always claim that bullshit". And then he stomped off like the prissy little bitch that he is.

Oh the bitter is certainly strong with this one.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 31, 2010 10:15 AM (pyCit)

49

If we assume, correctly, that Obama is all about adoration and isn't very happy about having the first real job of his life (and first real accountability), the Obama Declares Victory and Goes Home scenario becomes more likely.

Think you're wrong that Obama is all about adoration.  He's a narcissist.  He loves the power.  And he's also deluded.  He loves the power and position, just not actually doing the job he's supposed to be doing.  If he were actually about adoration he'd be trying to do more things that people would like instead of doing what he wants and being left tow wander why people aren't happy.  His delusion also allows him to believe that he is adored and you can see how pissed he gets when confronted with the reality that he is not being adored, such as when John Stewart actually gave him almost not softball questions during his "interview."

But once stuff like that is over he can go back to his little world of "people really do actually love me completely"

Posted by: buzzion at October 31, 2010 10:16 AM (oVQFe)

50 Better hope not. Obama dropping out is literally the only way we can lose 2012. Traditionally, primary challenges of incumbent Presidents don't work - it just weakens them enough that they lose in the general election.

Posted by: Oregon Is Dumber Than Dirt at October 31, 2010 10:16 AM (Hu/Da)

51 Everyone is shocked, was he actually heckled in CT?  And commented that the "other side" wasn't interested in AIDS or something.   Every gay friend i have has commented that this was not a fair comment since "GWB did more for this than any president in history".   Makes you wonder though if he meant the republicans when he said "the other side"...that hasn't been clarified, right?

Posted by: curious at October 31, 2010 10:17 AM (p302b)

52 But don't forget that Hillbuzz thinks there is a huge scandal that the DNC is trying to suppress. here is the thread. so I cant do that tiny url thang. http://hillbuzz.org/2010/10/29/mystery check the comment by sundance cracker- the guy is a fucking mind reader

Posted by: Some other Jackson at October 31, 2010 10:19 AM (WAxE/)

53

He said, "NOT TRUE. That's just not true! You people always claim that bullshit". And then he stomped off like the prissy little bitch that he is.

These people still believe in the 'science' of Global Warming. 

 They are clamoring for more fees and regulations to combat it in nearly every municipality in the nation! 

The left is truly insane.

Posted by: garrett at October 31, 2010 10:19 AM (vDAvW)

54 Greg #21  What do you do, as a functioning part of society, to support yourself?  Do you have an education? A job? A family?  What kind of benefit do you receive when you post on this blog?  Is it money?  Are you a fanatic? Do you really believe your "cause" is true enough to overcome the abuse you do get here?  I work ER and I am serious.  Is there a pathology here? What gives?

Posted by: Katy Beth at October 31, 2010 10:20 AM (X8EGZ)

55

oh on a related note....

I spent the morning looking over old news coverage to see how they were discussing the'94 ass spanking.

clinton as despicable as he was, was at least sane enough to know what he had to do. here's an interesting quote --

Finally, he (Clinton) said the public was saying, "We don't think the government can solve all the problems and we don't want the Democrats telling us from Washington that they know what is right about everything."

 so. will Obama take that approach? [rhetorical. no bother answering what we already know to be the answer].

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 31, 2010 10:20 AM (pyCit)

56 Barak Obama. More Popular in Texas than the Cowboys

Posted by: Zakn at October 31, 2010 10:20 AM (zyaZ1)

57 "On the Discovery Channel, after Sarah Palin's Alaska, - Barack Obama's Golf Courses." lol "Can't beat something with nothing, though.  It depends who gets nominated." We already know who will be nominated. Some people don't want her and are in denial, though. "Traditionally, primary challenges of incumbent residents don't work - it just weakens them nough that they lose in the general election." I agree. I was taLking about him dropping out beforehand.

Posted by: someone at October 31, 2010 10:21 AM (1CSK7)

58

Can't beat something with nothing, though.  It depends who gets nominated.  I hope the Repubs drop their "next guy in line" philosophy (Romney?) and pick someone of substance. 

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 31, 2010 03:15 PM (c1oyg)

Actually I believe that Huckabee will try to claim that he is "the next guy in line."  It is the reason I think he stayed in the primaries as long as he had: to prove that he had some pull in more states.  Staying in meant they could tag more people in those states as supporters to use in the next go around. 

Posted by: buzzion at October 31, 2010 10:22 AM (oVQFe)

Posted by: curious at October 31, 2010 10:22 AM (p302b)

60 I'm reminded of Nero at the end of the last Star Trek movie. Kirk asks him if he would like to surrender hoping to play nice with the romulans, Nero says never, Spock tells Kirk "not this time", Kirk says, "you got it" and blows him to smithereens. Think of us as the red matter.

Posted by: dagny at October 31, 2010 10:23 AM (yLCsy)

61 My God the Cowgirls suck.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 31, 2010 10:24 AM (Y6JCM)

62 Unless there is a miraculous conversion in the Oval Office, I can see no way for this to go anywhere but downhill for Obama. I'm sure there are scenarios in which Obama resurges and wins reelection, but right now it is looking as though if the GOP nominates someone with even a teaspoon of charisma, Obama is toast, a la Jimmy Carter. Facing such a debacle, many would consider not running for reelection.

But will Obama's oversized ego allow him to bow out?  That's the question. It may require some prominent party members to have a "talk" with Obama if things do go from bad to worse.  Facing another routing of the Democrat Party, perhaps even Obama would finally smell the coff...er, tea.

But, of course, the GOP may do what it often does -- turn victory into manure. If Boehner and his compatriots in Congress do not get the clear message from  this election, we may not get to enjoy another Mass Pudding Immersion.


Posted by: Full Moon at October 31, 2010 10:24 AM (DtbEv)

63 O/T:  it looked like Sarah had no wedding band on this morning but the tape is out and she does, sorry sarah.  but hey that would have been a great ploy to keep the cozy kids busy in the days leading up to the election.

LINK

Posted by: curious at October 31, 2010 10:25 AM (p302b)

64

clinton as despicable as he was, was at least sane enough to know what he had to do. here's an interesting quote --

Finally, he (Clinton) said the public was saying, "We don't think the government can solve all the problems and we don't want the Democrats telling us from Washington that they know what is right about everything."

 so. will Obama take that approach? [rhetorical. no bother answering what we already know to be the answer].

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 31, 2010 03:20 PM (pyCit)

Like I said in the ONT, I really hope that after Obama's first utterance of "Working together" or being willing to compromise, that Boehner and McConnell or whoever are Speaker and Senate Majority Leader go on TV and say "We won"

Posted by: buzzion at October 31, 2010 10:25 AM (oVQFe)

65 Did someone say "teaspoon of charisma"?

Posted by: Mike Suckabee at October 31, 2010 10:26 AM (HGV/y)

66 51 Everyone is shocked, was he actually heckled in CT?  And commented that the "other side" wasn't interested in AIDS or something.   Every gay friend i have has commented that this was not a fair comment since "GWB did more for this than any president in history".   Makes you wonder though if he meant the republicans when he said "the other side"...that hasn't been clarified, right?

The most common name for baby boys in some regions of Africa is George Bush.  They know who had their back.

Posted by: EZB at October 31, 2010 10:26 AM (fa9yq)

67 56 Barak Obama. More Popular in Texas than the Cowboys Ain't that the truth. Frickin hate that , representing the Death Star and all. POTUS is a holster of cock, like Romo. Although Romo could fix that. Maybe.

Posted by: 4ican at October 31, 2010 10:27 AM (Ceb/w)

68

We already know who will be nominated. Some people don't want her and are in denial, though.

I hope you are as wrong as can be.

Posted by: garrett at October 31, 2010 10:27 AM (vDAvW)

69 To Obama, "Working Together" = "Republicans Bending Over, Grabbing Ankles"

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 31, 2010 10:27 AM (c1oyg)

70

Joe Buck:  Back from the commercial break and now we see Greg dropping back and attacking.........Glen Beck?

Troy Aikman: That was completely out of the blue. Not sure what state or district Glen Beck is on the ballot. I think this is a sign of resignation on Greg's part....that he knows Tuesday is going to be bad and is now looking for a new strawman to attack.

Joe: Well, Troy, if that is the case, think it will work?

Troy: No. Look, the DNC, President Obama, Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid all tried to demonize Rush Limbaugh at one point. As a short term strategy, the best it did was maybe squeeze a few more dollars out of their base. Long term....well, as you can see.....Tuesday looks bad for Team Obama.

Joe: Then why do it Troy?

Troy: Well, desperation. I'm not sure Greg ever recovered from the pounding editor gave him the other day about Washington. And that pounding came right on the heel of Greg getting caught in a bold face lie about early voting in Colorado. By trying to reset the terms of the game, maybe this is Greg's attempt to get a do-over.

Joe: Well, it appears that the moron herd isn't giving Greg a do-over.

Troy: No, Joe it doesn't. The moron herd is really locked in. I haven't seen this type of focus on purpose since someone gave John Edwards a comb and a hand held mirror.  

Joe: Why Troy........why do you do this to everyone?

Posted by: Fox Broadcast Booth at October 31, 2010 10:28 AM (OWjjx)

71 Posted by: buzzion

absolutely! using their words against them is a thing of beauty!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 31, 2010 10:28 AM (pyCit)

72 From the linked article: "Among all 2008 voters, 51 percent say he deserves to be defeated in November 2012 while 47 percent support his re-election - essentially a tie. "Among Democrats, 47 percent say Obama should be challenged for the 2012 nomination and 51 percent say he should not be opposed." So 51% of Dems DON'T want a primary challenge.

Posted by: sauropod at October 31, 2010 10:28 AM (GPm6P)

73 This Greg guy is getting to be kinda funny now with his ability to magically pull numbers out from under the couch in his momma's basement.

Posted by: Greg, Puppet of Sock, not Holster of Cock at October 31, 2010 10:29 AM (3W1+C)

74 http://hillbuzz.org/2010/10/29/mystery

check the comment by sundance cracker- the guy is a fucking mind reader

Thanks, Jack!  South Carolina, very interesting.  I've started thinking of Jim DeMint as God's stunt-double vis-a-vis American politics these days.  I only wish I had more money to send him.

Posted by: Peaches at October 31, 2010 10:30 AM (zxpIo)

75 Posted by: Fox Broadcast Booth at October 31, 2010 03:28 PM (OWjjx)

That's a Greg sock....but I love these Joe & Troy posts of yours.

Posted by: Tami at October 31, 2010 10:30 AM (VuLos)

76 The GOP is doing a piss poor job of communicating with the American people too.  As I recall, the communicators, Paul Ryan, Michelle Bachman, Thaddeus McCotter and a couple of others were pointing out that they were literally shut out of bill crafting and discussion by the dems.  How the bills came from a select crew in nanny's office.  (I have a friend who jokes that the congressional cats wrote all the bills)......By behaving nicely, the GOP looks like a bunch of chumps to the average American who is patient and plays nice but won't take constant punches to the face without fighting back.  This verbal diarrhea looks like the GOP is perfectly happy being crapped all over and still wanting to "cross the damned aisle".....that is not a normal reaction

Posted by: curious at October 31, 2010 10:30 AM (p302b)

77 Thats what Caddell said when he was on the Ricochet podcast. Most of it comes from the fact that there is no leadership until one emerges in 2012 to co-oridinate that message. I don't quite understand why not though. Fuck Obama works and it is not complex

Posted by: Zakn at October 31, 2010 10:33 AM (zyaZ1)

78 Does anyone know how Michelle Bachmann is doing in her race?    McCotter is a hoot on Red Eye.

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 31, 2010 10:33 AM (c1oyg)

79 She's up double digits Ombudsman. Even in 538's deal that got posted today

Posted by: Zakn at October 31, 2010 10:35 AM (zyaZ1)

80 #70 Brilliant, liked very much.

Posted by: Greg, Puppet of Sock, not Holster of Cock at October 31, 2010 10:35 AM (3W1+C)

81 According to RCP, Bachmann is +9.

Posted by: Peaches at October 31, 2010 10:36 AM (zxpIo)

82

I hope you are as wrong as can be.

said you wanna be startin' something,  you gotta be startin' something, I said you wanna be startin' something, you got be startin' something....

Posted by: Zombie Michael Jackson at October 31, 2010 10:37 AM (pyCit)

83 My inner history nerd compels me to point out that the "if elected I will not serve" thing was said by William Tecumseh Sherman.

Posted by: ChuckOH at October 31, 2010 10:37 AM (jUBAo)

84 Wait, those are old polls.  I like the double-digits better!

Posted by: Peaches at October 31, 2010 10:37 AM (zxpIo)

85 Ugh, a lib friend of mine, in discussing the election cycle as she calls it just told me that the latest palin smear.   so I'm going to tell you guys what she said, she didn't characterize it as a smear, she just characterized it as "fact she is passing along"  which makes it horrible:  she told me that she was told by a friend of a friend of a friend that sarah palin deliberately made herself have a child with downs so that she would be more likable politically.   After I called her up and screamed at her not to say that to anyone again as it is a total lie and makes her look like the horrible human being I'm beginning to think she is, she replied, "don't say I didn't warn you"

Is sarah palin that much of a threat that they have to say despicable things like that?

Posted by: curious at October 31, 2010 10:38 AM (p302b)

86 Thinking about Obama and his thin skin, I wonder if that is why his trip is scheduled for right after the election?  Rather than staying in Washington and having to deal with the mess he has  made, he is splitting.  However, it is possible that his handlers (being aware of his thin skin and tendency to lash out), decided for him that it would be best if he was far away from prying eyes!  They don't want a public meltdown!  Maybe he is closer to the edge than we are aware.

Posted by: chillin the most at October 31, 2010 10:39 AM (6IV8T)

87 If they didn't get rid of her last year it's a safe district. It does crack me up to read all the Bachmann is an embarrassment to Minnesota and the Sixth District  in the papers tho

Posted by: Zakn at October 31, 2010 10:40 AM (zyaZ1)

88 If this nation doesn't re-elect my husband, it's PROOF that America is even more full of racists than I thought!
I'm really starting to lose my pride in you people.  Gawd, I need another vacation....maybe Monaco?  Or Phuket?  The farther away from you, the better!

Posted by: Michele Obama at October 31, 2010 10:42 AM (uttTR)

89

she told me that she was told by a friend of a friend of a friend

mkay, curious you probably should have just stopped listening at this point

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 31, 2010 10:43 AM (pyCit)

90 Is sarah palin that much of a threat that they have to say despicable things like that?

Posted by: curious at October 31, 2010 03:38 PM (p302b)

Yeah, but as you alluded, your friend is a horrible despicable person.    Next time ask her how you can make yourself have a DS baby.

You need to cull your so-called friends from your 'should be' diminishing circle of friends.    To even repeat this kind of garbage only acknowledges the fact that they aren't good people.

Posted by: Steph at October 31, 2010 10:43 AM (ZfkPl)

91 Posted by: Michele Obama at October 31, 2010 03:42 PM (uttTR)

Since your hubby seems to be smackin down all the black politicians who are running and the only thing that seems to be even remotely black about him is his skin color, I would submit you've got that all wrong..

Posted by: curious at October 31, 2010 10:44 AM (p302b)

92 How can you "make" yourself have a Down's baby?

Posted by: Ombudsman at October 31, 2010 10:44 AM (c1oyg)

93 ....that sarah palin deliberately made herself have a child with downs so that she would be more likable politically.

Curious, I'd be too embarrassed to even admit I knew someone who said that, let alone refer to them as a friend.  Seriously....that's some nuclear batshit crazy, that is.  RUN!

Posted by: Tami at October 31, 2010 10:45 AM (VuLos)

94 93 exactly

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 31, 2010 10:45 AM (pyCit)

95 1) Please don't forget a LAVISH expense account, Barack -- and Michelle -- need that also.  On the other hand, maybe the dude is power-hungry...

2) The solution from the Dem standpoint would be for an African-American candidate to primary Obama...

Posted by: rjm319 at October 31, 2010 10:46 AM (ySuQR)

96 62 Unless there is a miraculous conversion in the Oval Office, I can see no way for this to go anywhere but downhill for Obama. I'm sure there are scenarios in which Obama resurges and wins reelection, but right now it is looking as though if the GOP nominates someone with even a teaspoon of charisma, Obama is toast, a la Jimmy Carter. Facing such a debacle, many would consider not running for reelection.

The only miraculous conversion would be resignation.  Compare Bill Clinton to President Dude:  Clinton was a Governor and knew that he had to do the give and take to get things done.  Dude: Vote present.  Clinton lost an election and came back again "contrite". Dude: Has never made a political mistake on his way up because he never made any hard choices. Of course the classic Clinton adjustment was in 94, because he saw the writing on the wall and changed what he knew didn't work for him politically (just like Bush did in adopting the Surge in Iraq militarily). Dude: Doesn't even know HOW to make an adjustment even if he perceived the need for one.  He'll be all "Full speed ahead."

Posted by: Minuteman at October 31, 2010 10:46 AM (264X9)

97 Posted by: Steph at October 31, 2010 03:43 PM (ZfkPl)

I'm a very calm person, I actually immediately called and screamed on the phone, my other friends were shocked.   Everyone laughed when I said  "you are being worse than Andrew Sullivan" so I guess he's well know for his nastiness still.  I told her she's on probation cause I can't be friends with someone so mentally deranged.  I give great parties....being on probation with me is huge.

Posted by: curious at October 31, 2010 10:47 AM (p302b)

98

You can deliberately cause yourself to have an infant with Down Syndrome?  I did not know that - obviously I was absent that day in developmental biology.

That scrunt must be weapons-grade stupid.  Or a raving lib.  Same thing, really. 

Posted by: BlueStateSil at October 31, 2010 10:48 AM (NUMNK)

99 If nominated, the Red states will demand to see his damned birth certificate this time, before allowing his name on the ballot.


Posted by: Kristopher at October 31, 2010 10:50 AM (cxBLR)

100 "94 ....that sarah palin deliberately made herself have a child with downs so that she would be more likable politically.

Curious, I'd be too embarrassed to even admit I knew someone who said that, let alone refer to them as a friend.  Seriously....that's some nuclear batshit crazy, that is.  RUN!

Posted by: Tami at October 31, 2010 03:45 PM (VuLos)"

You forget I live in NY.  People think it is their right to say stupid things and it is their right but something like that is horrific, just horrific.  But that's coming from someone whose had two abortions and a boob job.   The worst part is that one of the guys here watching the jet game has a sister with downs and he got really really upset and I felt terrible.  He's taking home a frozen lasagna.

Posted by: curious at October 31, 2010 10:50 AM (p302b)

101 Perfect job for Ex-President Obammy?

Celebrity greeter at a Las Vegas casino.  A classy one, like the Bellagio or the Wynn (although, Steve Wynn doesn't seem to be a fan, so maybe that won't work).

Hey, maybe he could work at one of those fancy places in Macao. He's already got plenty of experience bowing to Chinese big shots.

Posted by: DelD at October 31, 2010 10:52 AM (oAZ1S)

102

Minuteman: Dude: [Obama] Has never made a political mistake on his way up because he never made any hard choices

You're forgetting the race he lost against Bobby Rush in 2000. He did learn a lesson from that. He learnt that he could win by aligning himself with Hyde Park / Union Square / Boulder hipsters first, blacks second.

Posted by: Zimriel at October 31, 2010 10:53 AM (JdM1M)

103 People think it is their right to say stupid things and it is their right but something like that is horrific, just horrific.  But that's coming from someone whose had two abortions and a boob job.   The worst part is that one of the guys here watching the jet game has a sister with downs and he got really really upset and I felt terrible.  He's taking home a frozen lasagna.

Posted by: curious at October 31, 2010 03:50 PM (p302b)

It may be their right to say stupid things (although, I'd argue that goes waaaay beyond stupid) but you don't have to give them a platform or an ear.

Posted by: Tami at October 31, 2010 10:54 AM (VuLos)

104 I love me some Fox broadcast booth.

Posted by: 4ican at October 31, 2010 10:55 AM (Ceb/w)

105 ooops I accidentally sent the email to the entire list serv....oopsy..

ooo the doctors are eating her alive....

Posted by: curious at October 31, 2010 10:55 AM (p302b)

106

It may be their right to say stupid things (although, I'd argue that goes waaaay beyond stupid) but you don't have to give them a platform or an ear.

Posted by: Tami at October 31, 2010 03:54 PM (VuLos)


yeah my mom just said that almost in the exact same way but using the words "Godless hussy"

Posted by: curious at October 31, 2010 10:56 AM (p302b)

107 I apologize for even posting that, I didn't think and If ace or one of the bloggers wants to remove it, it's ok with me.

I just reacted and was upset and didn't think, sorry.

Posted by: curious at October 31, 2010 10:58 AM (p302b)

108 "If nominated, I will not run, if elected, I will not serve..."

That quotation is attributed to W.T. Sherman, not Lyndon Johnson. Johnson said: "I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination of my party for another term as your President."

http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu

Posted by: dawnfire82 at October 31, 2010 11:00 AM (968V9)

109 Anyone watching Neil Cavuto talking about Holder's flying monkeys decending on Arizona to monitor -- get this -- the poll watchers (not to monitor the polls for possible illegal alien "voters".)

Posted by: NM Hick (stuck in an island nation until after the wave breaks) at October 31, 2010 11:06 AM (YWhoe)

110 jeebers!
decending = descending

Posted by: NM Hick (stuck in an island nation until after the wave breaks) at October 31, 2010 11:07 AM (YWhoe)

111 He won't run.

Posted by: Bugler at October 31, 2010 11:14 AM (VXBR1)

112 Cringe all you like, Sarah Palin is and will be a force to be reckoned with. I think she would make an excellent president despite being jeered and heckled constantly.

I recall some Republicans expressing similar views about Reagan. It will grow on you once you get over the media bashing and fake vomiting.

There is a reason Palin drives the nutwits batshit crazy. They know she can do it and they fear her ability to arouse the despairing conservatives.

Posted by: Full Moon at October 31, 2010 11:19 AM (DtbEv)

113 He needs an easy gig, like running some kind of foundation or think tank.

Running a fart tank is right around the limits of his abilities.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at October 31, 2010 11:21 AM (G/MYk)

114 UN Secretary-General.

All the authority in the world, sort of, but no real responsibility. 

Pontificate, suck up money from member countries, distribute favors and baksheesh. 

I'm utterly certain he can arrange that around his extensive golf schedule. 

I figured when he came into office that he'd be toddling off to the UN eventually, but he hasn't been quite supine enough (yet) for the Muslim bloc to be willing to let him have the job.


Posted by: JEM at October 31, 2010 11:36 AM (o+SC1)

115 Hey Asshole....THIS IS the 'easy job'. Now get out of the way....I'm playing through.

Posted by: B+rry Ob+owmao at October 31, 2010 11:39 AM (IblyN)

116 Oh, SNL just wants to bring back the girl who plays hillary on SNL so they, like all the other deluded dems, think America, if BO decides to retire, will elect Hillary in 2012, not Sarah.  It would be an interesting "battle of the broads".....

Posted by: curious at October 31, 2010 11:47 AM (p302b)

117 28 Since the day he won the election I've been saying Obama will not run for a second term. The media will eventually turn on him after the Democratic party concludes they will be better off with Hillary in 2012. The meme will be that Obama is too thoughtful and cerebral for the dirty politics in DC. He'll attempt to save face by announcing he's taking a some sort of position at the UN or some other world entity.

Posted by: F Muldoon at October 31, 2010 03:06 PM (KHAc5)

Over my dead body he'll get my job.

Speakin of 'job', where's that intern....

Posted by: Bill Clinton at October 31, 2010 11:48 AM (IblyN)

118 He needs an easy gig, like running some kind of foundation or think tank. Something where he can work ten or twelve hours a week, golf with celebrities, and receive adoration of (smaller but more, um, selective) crowds.

Preeeeeee-cisely.  This guy just doesn't want to work this hard.  He came into this job thinking that all he'd have to do is wave his hand and his will would be done, no questions asked.  And, being a product of Chicago politics, he's not used to a lot of questions.  His imported gauntlet of imported thugs and hangers-on haven't been able to run interference, not nearly as well as he thought (or was told) they would.  It might be easy to run a game on a city, or a county, especially in a place like Chicago where death doesn't disqualify you from voting...but a whole nation?  Not so much.

Posted by: antisocialist at October 31, 2010 11:48 AM (Rwudm)

119 UN Secretary-General.

All the authority in the world, sort of, but no real responsibility. 

And...as an added bonus, he could kiss all the foreign dignitary ass he wanted to, and nobody would say a word. 

Posted by: antisocialist at October 31, 2010 11:51 AM (Rwudm)

120 Any Democrat besides Obama running in 2012 will lose. Blacks will sit out. Even if he chooses not to run, they will be dispirited. And a white woman ain't gonna get them jazzed. 

Posted by: schizuki at October 31, 2010 12:07 PM (M+lbD)

121 Supposedly, Obama plans to eliminate the corporate tax. Megan McArdls's blog is full of progressives who say it won't happen because the GOP wouldn't agree to that, with a corresponding hike of capital gains tax. How about just spending cuts, libs, would that be so bad? In any case, you have to wonder why wasn't this plan implemented on Jan. 21, 2009? Because it sounds like a good idea to restore business confidence and attract investment. In fact, it sounds too good to be true for a Democratic policy - unless maybe they know they have move back to the center.

Posted by: sexypig at October 31, 2010 04:33 PM (+Ab8X)

122 And a white woman ain't gonna get them jazzed.

Well, besides Tiger and Jesse...

Posted by: Alex at October 31, 2010 05:00 PM (aAsSp)

123 "If nominated, I will not run, if elected, I will not serve..." was Wm. Tecumseh Sherman, not LBJ.

Posted by: Marty at October 31, 2010 07:42 PM (kqOng)

124 If anyone thinks Obama won't hold a white-knuckled grip on the presidency, then they don't know the man. Get this: he has never been beaten in politics, not once. Admittedly, ensuring all of his opponents were disqualified during his state senate run wasn't exactly a contest, nor was his race against Keyes for US Senate, when Ryan, Obama's only serious competition, dropped out of the race when his character-damning divorce records were *cough* mysteriously unsealed. We all know Hillary's shortcomings as a candidate during the primaries. So no, Obama's never really been challenged until now. So what will the President do? He'll persuade the faithful in the Democratic caucus to fall on their swords a little harder in the lame duck session coming up. Card check? Check. Cap and Trade legislation? You bet. The union and environmentalist tiers of the base will be placated and appeased even if the legislation somehow fails. But most importantly, he'll go for immigration reform--and by 'reform', I mean absolute blanket amnesty and instant citizenship for every 'undocumented new American' residing in the US. Think about it: millions of grateful, Democrat-leaning and Obama-loving immigrant votes. Obama is no LBJ. He won't resign. Come 2012, he and his people will be pulling out all the stops no matter who wins the GOP primaries. It will be the Chicago Way writ large: voter intimidation, ballot machine tampering, billions of dollars pouring in from hundreds of shadowy PACs, and all of it un- or under-reported by a still compliant and sympathetic MSM. The only way to beat Obama, in my view, is to catch him in an unscripted, unrehearsed 'Joe the Plumber' moment saying what he really thinks--not likely given the hypersensitivity of his handlers to such a situation, but one can hope.

Posted by: troyriser at October 31, 2010 07:49 PM (mU1zA)

125 Work? Did you say WORK?

This ass-clown hasn't 'WORKED' a day in his sorry life, why do you think he'll start now?

Obama's been on the affirmative action slip-n-slide gravy train since before he went to Harvard Law.


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