December 31, 2012

Piers Tabloid Morgan: Why I'll Leave The US if It Doesn't Change Its Crazy Gun Laws
— Ace

Your offer is accepted without reservation.

Deport me? If America won't change its crazy gun laws... I may deport myself says PIERS MORGAN

By Piers Morgan


I have fired guns only once in my life, on a stag party to the Czech capital Prague a few years ago when part of the itinerary included a trip to an indoor shooting range. For three hours, our group were let loose on everything from Magnum 45 handguns and Glock pistols, to high-powered ‘sniper’ rifles and pump-action shotguns.

It was controlled, legal, safe and undeniably exciting. But it also showed me, quite demonstrably, that guns are killing machines.

...

The Sandy Hook massacre brought back such horribly vivid memories for me of Dunblane, the worst mass shooting in Britain in my lifetime.

I was editor of the Daily Mirror on that day back in 1996 and will never forget the appalling TV footage of those poor Scottish mothers sprinting to the small primary school, many already howling with anguish at the thought of what might have happened to their five-year-old children.

It was a slaughter so senseless, so unspeakable, that it reduced even hard-bitten news reporters, including me, to tears.

Note that Piers says Dunblane was the worst mass shooting of his lifetime. He doesn't mention the second worse. We'll get to that.

In 1996, Britain had much more restrictive gun laws than America had -- and yet the Dunblane massacre still happened. The killer shot and killed 16 children, armed with four handguns.

That resulted in even tighter gun laws that "effectively" made any possession of a handgun illegal in Britain.

So, did the tightened gun laws stop mass shootings in the UK?

Nope. In 2010, with the de facto ban on all handguns now in place, a man killed 11 and shot 12 more in Cumbria.

And in October 2012 a maniac killed one and shot 13 in Cardiff. Where they film all those Doctor Who episodes with "guns are bad" messaging.

Piers wants to talk about Dunblane, the massacre that happened before Britain had its draconian gun laws (but they were still pretty draconian then, too!); he doesn't want to talk about the massacres which have happened even under the total prohibition against handguns.

And from this record of the efficacy of stopping mass shootings by banning guns -- first almost every gun, then, literally, every gun -- Piers Morgan deduces "America must follow Britain's lead"... so that we may experience a mass shooting at approximately the same rate as Britain.

Posted by: Ace at 11:31 AM | Comments (297)
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1 Damn, I see he used the qualifier, 'may'. And here I was hoping it was a promise.

Posted by: mugiwara at December 31, 2012 11:32 AM (hpYnL)

2 Classic "you can't fire me, I quit."

Posted by: fartist at December 31, 2012 11:32 AM (DaHbT)

3 There's a petition in the UK to make him stay here. I say we meet them halfway and drop him in the Atlantic.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 31, 2012 11:32 AM (O80gU)

4 Oh pleasssssssssssssssssssssssse let it be true!

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 31, 2012 11:33 AM (iYbLN)

5 An open letter to Piers:

Don't let the door hit your butt on the way out.


Posted by: Al at December 31, 2012 11:34 AM (V70Uh)

6 This is that guy on the talent show, right?

Posted by: toby928 monarchist at December 31, 2012 11:34 AM (QupBk)

7 "Why don't you take a long walk off a short, Piers?"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 31, 2012 11:34 AM (1OZSU)

8 I'll drive him to the airport.

Posted by: potsie at December 31, 2012 11:34 AM (yO9Pv)

9

"I may deport myself"

 

Tease.

Posted by: wth at December 31, 2012 11:35 AM (wAQA5)

10 He's not even gone, and I miss him already. Don't go Russell Brand, America needs you! Was it something we said?

Posted by: Archimedes, marital aid designer at December 31, 2012 11:35 AM (I88Jc)

11 Please, just fucking leave and take a bunch of your American fellow travelers with you.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 31, 2012 11:35 AM (yJYwC)

12 Don't go, Piers.  But if you do, could you take Soledad O'Brien with you?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2012 11:36 AM (QKKT0)

13 In the name of God, GO!

Posted by: Adriane ... at December 31, 2012 11:36 AM (9Qc6B)

14 It would be like Brain Drain, but in reverse.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2012 11:36 AM (QKKT0)

15 Take Sean Penn with you.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 31, 2012 11:37 AM (iYbLN)

16 For three hours, our group were let loose on everything from Magnum 45 handguns and Glock pistols, to high-powered ‘sniper’ rifles and pump-action shotguns.

Please, tell me more about this "Magnum 45 handgun" they have in Prague.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 31, 2012 11:37 AM (SY2Kh)

17 Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Fuck off, Piers.

Posted by: JeanQueenie at December 31, 2012 11:37 AM (Gmp2Z)

18 Piers! We have some openings!

Posted by: France at December 31, 2012 11:37 AM (QKKT0)

19 "Although I love the country as a second home and one that has treated me incredibly well, I would...  *seriously consider* deporting myself"

^^
"Seriously Consider[ing]"  Translation: He's bullshitting.

Posted by: Serious Cat at December 31, 2012 11:37 AM (UypUQ)

20 Damn, I see he used the qualifier, 'may'. And here I was hoping it was a promise. Don't hold your breath. I'm still waiting for all the lefties to head to Canada when GWB won.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2012 11:38 AM (GFM2b)

21 If we can keep Mark Steyn, it is a deal!

Posted by: Jmel at December 31, 2012 11:38 AM (9tSXa)

22 You know what would be faster than leaving by jet?

Railgun!

Posted by: The Guy Who Digs Railguns at December 31, 2012 11:39 AM (QKKT0)

23 Last I checked, the petition to deport Morgan was over 90k signatures, heh.

Posted by: JeanQueenie at December 31, 2012 11:39 AM (Gmp2Z)

24 Railgun! Trebuchet.

Posted by: toby928 traditonalist at December 31, 2012 11:39 AM (QupBk)

25 21 If we can keep Mark Steyn, it is a deal! Posted by: Jmel at December 31, 2012 04:38 PM (9tSXa) He's Canadian, isn't he? So I don't think that would be a valid trade, thankfully.

Posted by: KG at December 31, 2012 11:39 AM (p7BzH)

26 So we can start batting him back and forth across the Atlantic like a shuttlecock?

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 31, 2012 11:40 AM (Gk3SS)

27 Fasten your sea belts morons.  No deal.  Over the fecal cliff we go!

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 31, 2012 11:40 AM (iYbLN)

28 Please, tell me more about this "Magnum 45 handgun" they have in Prague. Maybe it's like the one Tom Selleck used?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2012 11:40 AM (GFM2b)

29 Is there a PayPal account or something?


I promise to kick in.

Posted by: fluffy at December 31, 2012 11:40 AM (z9HTb)

30 signed the petition to deport him.  we're still a few signatures short of the magic six figure mark (hint, hint)

Posted by: Dogstar at December 31, 2012 11:40 AM (2MnmS)

31 sealtbealts, my bad.

Not a barrel offense.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 31, 2012 11:41 AM (iYbLN)

32 FUCK!!

Posted by: England at December 31, 2012 11:41 AM (HDgX3)

33 We fought a revolution so we wouldn't have to pay attention to the fucking British. Escort that poncy faggot to international waters and release him.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 31, 2012 11:41 AM (r1J3n)

34 Please, tell me more about this "Magnum 45 handgun" they have in Prague.

Maybe it's like the one Tom Selleck used? Posted by: rickb223


It has a really cool mustache.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 31, 2012 11:42 AM (iYbLN)

35 poncey pom poofter

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 31, 2012 11:42 AM (O80gU)

36 Who's poncy?

Posted by: Piers Morgan, 1st Earl of Cornhole at December 31, 2012 11:42 AM (QKKT0)

37 Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya, asshole.

Posted by: DangerGirl at December 31, 2012 11:42 AM (GrtrJ)

38

27 Fasten your sea belts morons. No deal. Over the fecal cliff we go!

 

Did the Senate have their vote?

 

Harken wasn't liking the deal...so I've been wondering if it might fail because of some of the Dems.

 

Posted by: wheatie at December 31, 2012 11:43 AM (K4wCe)

39 .... actually... I think Winchester did have a 45 magnum... although Im sure its an American boutique cartridge not found over the pond.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 31, 2012 11:43 AM (9MmIU)

40 If Maggie Thatcher is up to it, we could trade him for her.  Yes.  She has alzheimer's and cannot think straight.  He does not have that excuse.

Posted by: Al at December 31, 2012 11:43 AM (V70Uh)

41

In fairness to Dr. Who, I've always understood the "Guns are bad" thing as an attempt to be in obvious tension with the fact that the man is a walking war machine.

Also, clearly Dr. Who can't have a "Guns are bad" message per se when...well...River Song.  Need I say more?

Posted by: tsrblke at December 31, 2012 11:43 AM (GaqMa)

42 If I were starting an investment bank I'd call it Piers Morgan. It's a nice sounding name.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 31, 2012 11:43 AM (HDgX3)

43 This horse's arse is giving the moniker a bad name.

Posted by: Zombie Piers Gaveston at December 31, 2012 11:43 AM (QKKT0)

44 wheatie,

The House won't vote tonight.

They are done for the day.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 31, 2012 11:43 AM (iYbLN)

45 OK bye.

Posted by: Fresh at December 31, 2012 11:43 AM (O7ksG)

46 Piers is like all those American liberals who said they would flee a re-election of Bush.  All words, no conviction.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 11:44 AM (fx1PU)

47 Always remember, those who want to take away your guns are the bad guys. I know I am preaching to the choir. I always tell my kids, trust a politician who gives the people power, never trust a politician who wants to take away your power.

Posted by: darb at December 31, 2012 11:44 AM (iIL8M)

48 Leaving aside the utter inanity of the substance, the tone is that of a six year old who says he's going to hold his breath until he dies. Really Piers? Are you threatening us?

Posted by: Real Joe at December 31, 2012 11:44 AM (PD2ad)

49 Gawd, can you imagine the poofter heaving over you in the throes of passion?

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 31, 2012 11:45 AM (iYbLN)

50 Did Piers Morgan just say that he only realized that guns are deadly weapons AFTER HAVING FIRED ONE?


Posted by: Warden at December 31, 2012 11:45 AM (HzhBE)

51 Maybe it's like the one Tom Selleck used?

In the sense that they're both fictional, sure.

There does (did?) exist such a thing as a .45 Winchester Magnum, but it's very uncommon.  You couldn't just wander into a gun shop and expect they'd carry the ammo.

99% of the time someone refers to a "45 Magnum", they're talking shit.  It's highly unlikely a Prague shooting range is going to offer one up for rent.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at December 31, 2012 11:45 AM (SY2Kh)

52

It was controlled, legal, safe and undeniably exciting. But it also showed me, quite demonstrably, that guns are killing machines.

 

*****

 

What?   Apparently they don't have range control officers or very good trigger discipline in Prague.  Or perhaps they were using live peasants as targets?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 31, 2012 11:46 AM (1OZSU)

53 Well my word, people have certainly pulled out their British slang.  About all they have not called Piers is a slag, fat or otherwise.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 11:46 AM (fx1PU)

54 It's an 88 magnum. It shoots through schools.

Posted by: Danny Vermin at December 31, 2012 11:46 AM (r1J3n)

55

44wheatie,

The House won't vote tonight.

They are done for the day.

 

Really?

I thought they were in recess...and standing by...not adjorned for the day.

They adjorned?

 

Posted by: wheatie at December 31, 2012 11:46 AM (K4wCe)

56 I'll do it! (Holds passport to temple) I swear I'll do it!

Posted by: Piers Moron at December 31, 2012 11:47 AM (m0le6)

57 Piers Morgan is so smart that he wasn't aware that guns are designed to kill until he fired one at a "stag party."

Posted by: Warden at December 31, 2012 11:47 AM (HzhBE)

58 Piers Morgan: CNN's answer to Skip Bayless. Just say shit for shock value and hope like hell people will watch.

Posted by: Dave S. at December 31, 2012 11:47 AM (YEo73)

59 Like the bug said to Edgar in Men In Black:  "Your proposal is acceptable."

Posted by: Keith Arnold at December 31, 2012 11:47 AM (n4EDK)

60 Who goes to the Czech Republic to shoot a gun?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2012 11:48 AM (QKKT0)

61 Stag party. That fucking poofter just used the term "stag party."

Posted by: Warden at December 31, 2012 11:48 AM (HzhBE)

62 Joe and Willy looking at a line of German POWs being marched down a mountain in Italy.  They turn to the NCO in charge.

"Before you ask, no none of them invented the 88."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 11:48 AM (fx1PU)

63 God, what a pretentious wanker. 

It was controlled, legal, safe and undeniably exciting.
See, I'm not just a pansy little wuss who's scared of guns.  I was excited.

it reduced even hard-bitten news reporters, including me, to tears.
Um, Piers, dear, nobody, and I mean absolutely noone on the entire planet, thinks of you as a benchmark for toughness. 


Posted by: pep at December 31, 2012 11:48 AM (6TB1Z)

64 52 It was controlled, legal, safe and undeniably exciting. But it also showed me, quite demonstrably, that guns are killing machines.

*****

What? Apparently they don't have range control officers or very good trigger discipline in Prague. Or perhaps they were using live peasants as targets?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 31, 2012 04:46 PM (1OZSU)


________________


Heh.


My first thought at that was, you had to shoot a gun to know they are killing machines? Did you also have to fly a 747 to know planes are flying machines?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 31, 2012 11:48 AM (HDgX3)

65 "But it also showed me, quite demonstrably, that guns are killing machines."

Regular Einstein right there.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at December 31, 2012 11:49 AM (ndlFj)

66 You could tell the guns excited Piers by his rock hard nipples.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2012 11:49 AM (QKKT0)

67 60 Who goes to the Czech Republic to shoot a gun?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2012 04:48 PM (QKKT0)


_____________


Guns are banned in England. You gotta go somewhere.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 31, 2012 11:49 AM (HDgX3)

68 Who goes to the Czech Republic to shoot a gun? Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2012 04:48 PM (QKKT0) ---- **** raises hand.......****

Posted by: Wehrmacht Alumni Association at December 31, 2012 11:49 AM (9MmIU)

69 Piers gun lust is compensation for something he doth lack perhaps?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 11:49 AM (fx1PU)

70 The whole reason there IS a "United States" is because we decided to do things a little different than England.


Posted by: looking closely at December 31, 2012 11:50 AM (+PDlV)

71 **** raises hand.......****

Posted by: Wehrmacht Alumni Association at December 31, 2012 04:49 PM (9MmIU)


err, point taken.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2012 11:50 AM (QKKT0)

72 oops   peasants = pheasants

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 31, 2012 11:50 AM (1OZSU)

73

leave?

 

 

gasp

 

sob

Posted by: ette at December 31, 2012 11:51 AM (nqBYe)

74 Piers take your 25 viewers with you.

Posted by: Airandee at December 31, 2012 11:51 AM (9GHCK)

75 Seamus, for the feudal ruling elite its an easy mistake.  Except one is dressed in rags.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 11:51 AM (fx1PU)

76 72 oops peasants = pheasants

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 31, 2012 04:50 PM (1OZSU)


_________


Works better without the h

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 31, 2012 11:51 AM (HDgX3)

77 Please don't tell me this pretentious assholes ratings have been going up.

Posted by: Dave S. at December 31, 2012 11:51 AM (RlvM2)

78 heh.... I liked "peasants" better....

Posted by: fixerupper at December 31, 2012 11:51 AM (9MmIU)

79 sounds like "or I'll take my ball and go home."

Posted by: mallfly at December 31, 2012 11:51 AM (bJm7W)

80 Pete, we could use a man of your pallor--er, stature around here. I don't like this Bashir character's unsavory glances at our maid--er, Mika.

Posted by: Lawrence of MSNBCria at December 31, 2012 11:52 AM (I88Jc)

81 Somewhat off topic: That anti-Constitution rant on the sidebar is one of the most disgusting things I've ever read. Fuck the New York Times, and fuck leftists.

 Happy New Year.
 

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at December 31, 2012 11:52 AM (yJYwC)

82 keep back or the nagger gets it!

Posted by: Piers Morgan at December 31, 2012 11:52 AM (QupBk)

83 It was only at the height of our rough and tumble stag party, where, after downing an entire bottle of vodka and ripping off my shirt to reveal my hairy, virile chest to my brothers-in-arms that I realized something... The 44 magnum bazooka I was blasting away with could harm children.

It was then that I began to sob great manly wails of anguish and forfeited my place in the arm wrestling tournament, of which I was the favorite, that was about to commence.

Posted by: Piers Morgan at December 31, 2012 11:52 AM (HzhBE)

84 Piers Morgan leaving the US and heading back to Great Britain will dramatically increase the average IQ of both countries.

Posted by: wiserbud at December 31, 2012 11:52 AM (gCa4h)

85 The Wehrmacht didn't have to shoot guns in Czechoslovakia. Hitler won it in a poker game.

Posted by: Real Joe at December 31, 2012 11:52 AM (PD2ad)

86 Well on second thought Piers would insist the h in pheasant is silent...

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 11:53 AM (fx1PU)

87 77 Please don't tell me this pretentious assholes ratings have been going up.

Posted by: Dave S. at December 31, 2012 04:51 PM (RlvM2)

 

*****

 

No- I think even his mother stopped watching.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 31, 2012 11:53 AM (1OZSU)

88 Just how many more empty threats must I make before you American chaps take me seriously and change your cow boyish wats?

Posted by: Piers Moron at December 31, 2012 11:53 AM (m0le6)

89

*taps foot impatiently*

 

Well, are you going or not,  Piers?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 31, 2012 11:53 AM (yiIja)

90 oooh..... my chillens must have reset the modem again. Kinda diggin my new hashtag.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 31, 2012 11:53 AM (9MmIU)

91 Hey Piers, move to Australia and you can get a hat trick by pissing off another English speaking country. 

Posted by: no good deed at December 31, 2012 11:53 AM (mjR67)

92 Don't call my bluff!

Posted by: Piers Morgan and I'm serial, totes at December 31, 2012 11:53 AM (gCa4h)

93 Get out of my country.

Posted by: Leonard Pinth-Garnell at December 31, 2012 11:54 AM (PtuJp)

94 The Wehrmacht didn't have to shoot guns in Czechoslovakia. Hitler won it in a poker game.

Liar!  That was just Bohemia and Moravia.

Posted by: Neville Chamberlain at December 31, 2012 11:54 AM (QKKT0)

95 Yeah that was a simply lovely episode.  The Doctor with a cowboy hat and River with a six-shooter.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 11:54 AM (fx1PU)

96 Deport me? If America won't change its crazy gun laws... I may deport myself says PIERS MORGAN If I was wavering before, I'm not anymore. Way to influence, Piers!

Posted by: Dave S. at December 31, 2012 11:54 AM (RlvM2)

97 SCOAMF's little press conference really pissed off the Republicans.  It's almost like he did it on purpose.

Naw...

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 31, 2012 11:54 AM (iYbLN)

98 Not only did Britain's gun ban not stop mass shootings, but in the 10 years after Britain made private gun ownership illegal, the number of gun crimes in the U.K. doubled! (From an article in the Wall Street Journal a few days ago). Just another one of those "facts" that the gun grabbers always manage to leave out when they're telling us all how restricting or banning guns will make us all safer.

Posted by: Observer at December 31, 2012 11:55 AM (/sohm)

99 Kinda diggin my new hashtag.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 31, 2012 04:53 PM (9MmIU)

 

The hashtag laws of the United States must be changed, or I may deport myself.

Posted by: Peers for an Organ at December 31, 2012 11:55 AM (0WLla)

100 TFG just did his 'I won' speech again.  Just with more 'ums' and 'I' tossed in.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 11:55 AM (fx1PU)

101 "The killer shot and killed 16 children, armed with four handguns." Fuck you NRA that is what happens when you arm children! Imagine the horror if those evil little bastards had more than four guns amongst them.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at December 31, 2012 11:55 AM (G6kli)

102 Posted by: Observer at December 31, 2012 04:55 PM (/sohm) ... and didnt they have something like 60,000 stabbings a year???

Posted by: fixerupper at December 31, 2012 11:56 AM (9MmIU)

103 SCOAMF's little press conference really pissed off the Republicans. It's almost like he did it on purpose.

Naw...


I don't the Prezz'dint Don't Call My Bluff has the intelligence to strategically screw up a deal.  He only does that by accident.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2012 11:56 AM (QKKT0)

104 Not only did Britain's gun ban not stop mass shootings, but in the 10 years after Britain made private gun ownership illegal, the number of gun crimes in the U.K. doubled! (From an article in the Wall Street Journal a few days ago).


Look, if Hot Fuzz has taught me anything, and it has, it's that the best way to deal with farmer's mum's with guns is to kick them in the face.   It's science!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Totes waiting until after March Madness. at December 31, 2012 11:56 AM (Gk3SS)

105 Piers Morgan is a classic example of what's left over in a dead Empire. Probably were lots of his ilk in Rome, circa say 390 AD. Worthless protoplasm. The Goths used them for party favors.

Posted by: tubal at December 31, 2012 11:56 AM (BoE3Z)

106 I wonder if we can survive without his inlightened stupidity.

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2012 11:56 AM (OlN4e)

107 I mean it! If David Gregory shows off one more ammo magazine on his show, I'm leaving.

Posted by: Piers Moron at December 31, 2012 11:56 AM (m0le6)

108 72 oops peasants = pheasants  peons

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 31, 2012 04:50 PM (1OZSU)

 

*****

 

FIFM

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 31, 2012 11:57 AM (1OZSU)

109 72 oops peasants = pheasants  peons

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 31, 2012 04:50 PM (1OZSU)

 

*****

 

FIFM

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 31, 2012 11:57 AM (1OZSU)

110 and didnt they have something like 60,000 stabbings a year???

Don't worry, they are banning kitchen knives next. 

Posted by: no good deed at December 31, 2012 11:57 AM (mjR67)

111 Follow Britains *ahem* "lead" The RTKBA is what gave us the ability to tell that tyrant infatuated island to shove off. Sadly to the extent the once powerful nation of Britain is marching to self immolation via socialism lite we are in fact lock step and but one pace behind.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 31, 2012 11:57 AM (Z6q0M)

112 and didnt they have something like 60,000 stabbings a year???

Don't worry, they are banning kitchen knives next. 

Posted by: no good deed at December 31, 2012 11:57 AM (mjR67)

113 Follow Britains *ahem* "lead" The RTKBA is what gave us the ability to tell that tyrant infatuated island to shove off. Sadly to the extent the once powerful nation of Britain is marching to self immolation via socialism lite we are in fact lock step and but one pace behind.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Is Shrugging at December 31, 2012 11:57 AM (Z6q0M)

114 The UK is moribund because all the adventurous genes have emigrated.  All they have left are the trimmers and play it safes.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 11:57 AM (fx1PU)

115 The UK is moribund because all the adventurous genes have emigrated.  All they have left are the trimmers and play it safes.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 11:57 AM (fx1PU)

116 Is this fool actually saying he's afraid of being 'gunned down' if he lives in the USA?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 31, 2012 11:58 AM (2OdPQ)

117 Is this fool actually saying he's afraid of being 'gunned down' if he lives in the USA?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 31, 2012 11:58 AM (2OdPQ)

118 Stag party. That fucking poofter just used the term "stag party."

Tonight we're gonna party like it's 1959.

Posted by: HeatherRadish drinking heavily--GO CYCLONES! at December 31, 2012 11:58 AM (VK7SU)

119 Stag party. That fucking poofter just used the term "stag party."

Tonight we're gonna party like it's 1959.

Posted by: HeatherRadish drinking heavily--GO CYCLONES! at December 31, 2012 11:58 AM (VK7SU)

120 I commend my compatriot for making such a brave stand.

something something Christianist absolutism something.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at December 31, 2012 11:58 AM (60GaT)

121 I commend my compatriot for making such a brave stand.

something something Christianist absolutism something.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at December 31, 2012 11:58 AM (60GaT)

122 And this rant came from a person that created a story about British Troops abusing Iraqi's for "headlines" - and got fired for doing it!...fucking British assclown!

Piers - pack your shit up and leave... and don't let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you...

Posted by: Mjlnir, the banhammer from the gates of Hell at December 31, 2012 11:58 AM (Jls4P)

123 And this rant came from a person that created a story about British Troops abusing Iraqi's for "headlines" - and got fired for doing it!...fucking British assclown!

Piers - pack your shit up and leave... and don't let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you...

Posted by: Mjlnir, the banhammer from the gates of Hell at December 31, 2012 11:58 AM (Jls4P)

124 Damn my spelling sux....

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2012 11:58 AM (OlN4e)

125 Damn my spelling sux....

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2012 11:58 AM (OlN4e)

126 111 The UK is moribund because all the adventurous genes have emigrated. All they have left are the trimmers and play it safes.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 04:57 PM (fx1PU)

The only spirit left there is in the criminal element. And they'll move to Australia, one of these days.

Posted by: tubal at December 31, 2012 11:59 AM (BoE3Z)

127 111 The UK is moribund because all the adventurous genes have emigrated. All they have left are the trimmers and play it safes.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 04:57 PM (fx1PU)

The only spirit left there is in the criminal element. And they'll move to Australia, one of these days.

Posted by: tubal at December 31, 2012 11:59 AM (BoE3Z)

128 O/T It looks like the Senate is going with permanent tax cuts for everyone making less than $400k.  You know what that means.  INFLATION.  Big govt. spending without the big govt. taxation.  "Fire up the the printing presses Benny"

Posted by: Al at December 31, 2012 11:59 AM (V70Uh)

129

Wasn't this asshole fired in the UK for faking photos of British troops "harrassing and torturing" Iraqis?

 

Why yes, he was.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at December 31, 2012 12:00 PM (Jm7mj)

130 12 million illegal immigrates. To big of problem to remove them all and no new law will cause them to leave just make them all legal and be done with it.

300 million guns. Never to big to remove them all just another law will do it and all those who are not allowed to have any guns will never get any.

Lets learn something form the war on drugs that did not work but fill the jails with drug users,  now lets fill the jail will gun violates not users just people who legally own them.

Posted by: Trevor (@tjexcite) at December 31, 2012 12:00 PM (Ea64Y)

131 Speaking of killing machines... Piers, STFU! Your wordthoughts have wiped out an entire lobe!

Posted by: Brain Cell #9035768 at December 31, 2012 12:01 PM (eHIJJ)

132 Shouldn't we have a pointed elbow post? *cough* Help us Obi wan Dit, you're our only hope.

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 31, 2012 12:01 PM (QupBk)

133 What's he worried about?  Isn't his show taped in NYC?  With the strict gun laws there he is perfectly safe.  Or he could tape the show in DC, whose gun laws also keep its residents completely safe from violence.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at December 31, 2012 12:01 PM (6WVi+)

134

"Fire up the the printing presses Benny"

 

Heh. Benny and the Ink  Jets.

 

I read it in a magazine.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 31, 2012 12:01 PM (yiIja)

135
And Deep Too!.

Posted by: That guy thats late to the jokes on a totally different thread at December 31, 2012 12:02 PM (69Mdf)

136

97 SCOAMF's little press conference really pissed off the Republicans. It's almost like he did it on purpose.

Naw...

 

Wasn't really a 'press conference'.

It was a staged mini-speech in front of a hand-picked audience.

 

But yeah...it was such a gloat fest, it does make you wonder if he did it on purpose.

 

House now says..."There will be no Vote, because there is nothing to vote on".

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at December 31, 2012 12:02 PM (K4wCe)

137 I mean it! If David Gregory shows off one more ammo magazine on his show, I'm leaving. Posted by: Piers Moron at December 31, 2012 04:56 PM (m0le6) ---- Piers... I usually agree with you ..... but if we ban magazines today, you'll want to ban books next time.... and Im NOT cool with banning books.

Posted by: Meghan McCain at December 31, 2012 12:02 PM (9MmIU)

138 Happy New Year, Greece! May your prosperity continue unabated.

Posted by: Your Moron pal, Truman North at December 31, 2012 12:02 PM (I2LwF)

139 ahem

Posted by: the barrel at December 31, 2012 12:02 PM (QupBk)

140 Backwards Boy, barrel stat.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 12:02 PM (fx1PU)

141 BARREL!!!

Posted by: Meghan McCain at December 31, 2012 12:02 PM (9MmIU)

142 12 million illegal immigrates. To big of problem to remove them all and no new law will cause them to leave just make them all legal and be done with it.

The media ignores it but Obama has been deporting several hundreds thousand of criminal illegals per year.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 31, 2012 12:02 PM (hc3eM)

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 31, 2012 12:02 PM (yiIja)

144 Do you know what I and most other Americans living here are afraid of? Not getting a good parking spot. Or not making it to McDonald's by 10:30am in time for Sausage EggMcMuffins. I have more fear over Obama in the White House for 8 years than being shot, that is to say: I have no fear of being shot...ever. But that Obama...he scares me.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 31, 2012 12:03 PM (vuIm8)

145 120

drug laws have a stigma effect though, don't think they're exactly comparable

Posted by: JDP at December 31, 2012 12:03 PM (60GaT)

146 I have always wondered if Europe's general decline is due to them losing 2 generations of their best and bravest in last century's wars.

Posted by: Real Joe at December 31, 2012 12:03 PM (PD2ad)

147

Did the shithead limey call for airliner bans when our little islamic buddies killed thousands with that killing machine? Nah.

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2012 12:04 PM (OlN4e)

148

That'll be the very   last    time    this year.

 

I promise.  Surprisingly, alcohol was not involved.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit. at December 31, 2012 12:04 PM (yiIja)

149

Sorry dude. I'm at work.

 

No elbow for you.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at December 31, 2012 12:04 PM (Jm7mj)

150 I remember when Piers Morgan was on American Idol. He always wore that white tee-shirt and it was just so stupid.

Posted by: Cricket at December 31, 2012 12:04 PM (2ArJQ)

151 It's interesting that Morgan claims to have shot guns in the Czech Republic, where the country has adopted the U.S. standard of the right to keep and bear arms, which they did after experiencing the tyranny of Communist Russian oppression. No matter what country he's in Piers Morgan is still a tool.

Posted by: Manolo at December 31, 2012 12:04 PM (PttbO)

152 You have sat too long for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!

Posted by: Oliver Cromwell at December 31, 2012 12:05 PM (mb+Ar)

153 I have always wondered if Europe's general decline is due to them losing 2 generations of their best and bravest in last century's wars. Posted by: Real Joe at December 31, 2012 05:03 PM (PD2ad) ----- Nope.

Posted by: Marx, Engels, and the Socialist Labour Party at December 31, 2012 12:05 PM (9MmIU)

154 A White Paper proposing a ban on kitchen knives and screwdrivers is to be included in the Queen's Speech.

Posted by: Stephen Potter at December 31, 2012 12:06 PM (pv5J7)

155 I bet Piers has ugly pimples on his arse.

Posted by: mon nom est mpfs at December 31, 2012 12:06 PM (iYbLN)

156 *shrug* The firearms-related death rate, including suicide, homicide and unintentional death, is 10.7 per 100,000 in the United States. In the UK, it's 0.25. I certainly don't support banning guns of any kind, but I don't try to obscure the fact that exponentially higher rates of gun violence, including the mass murder of children, is the price we pay for this particular freedom.

Posted by: Jordan at December 31, 2012 12:06 PM (Hz1zc)

157 Since Dave in Texas is a bit occupied...

http://tinyurl.com/apz6owg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 12:07 PM (fx1PU)

158 The media ignores it but Obama has been deporting several hundreds thousand of criminal illegals per year.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 31, 2012 05:02 PM (hc3eM)


_________


100K out, 1 million in



Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 31, 2012 12:07 PM (HDgX3)

159 The left has been trying to undermine gun rights for decades, but we're give 'em up now to desperately hang on to Piers Morgan?

I didn't realize that he was this funny.

Posted by: ontherocks at December 31, 2012 12:07 PM (aZ6ew)

160 Astonishing and deeply disconcerting.  The only media organ defending American's right to carry is.......Pravda.  They cite what happens when the left gets power. 

http://tinyurl.com/cgxdae2

Posted by: pep at December 31, 2012 12:07 PM (6TB1Z)

161

Piers isn't leaving over guns.  He's leaving because he can't get laid  in America. 

 

Perhaps Pattya, Thailand, Piers.  I've heard the Searchlight Strangler likes it there too.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 12:07 PM (4ME3G)

162 Posted by: Jordan at December 31, 2012 05:06 PM (Hz1zc) Oh that's nice, do focus entirely on gun related crime, leaving out the UK's significantly higher overall violent crime rate. Yes, let's do that.

Posted by: KG at December 31, 2012 12:07 PM (p7BzH)

163 Let be be finale of seem.

Posted by: jwpaine (@PirateBallerina) at December 31, 2012 12:07 PM (mIl80)

164 Jordan, stairs, under them, now.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 31, 2012 12:07 PM (QVBzT)

165 140 I remember when Piers Morgan was on American Idol. He always wore that white tee-shirt and it was just so stupid.

Posted by: Cricket at December 31, 2012 05:04 PM (2ArJQ)

 

*****

 

Nope- that guy was named Nigel something-or-other.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 31, 2012 12:07 PM (1OZSU)

166 Even Poop Magazine won't have him.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 31, 2012 12:08 PM (3JFLq)

167 Did the shithead limey call for airliner bans when our little islamic buddies killed thousands with that killing machine? Nah.

Hah.  Wingnut imbecile.  Airliners are totally different.  Airliners serve a valuable function in society and are only dangerous when they're in the hands of criminals.  Guns, on the other hand...

Um, wait.

Just a minute.



Because Fuck You, that's why.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 31, 2012 12:08 PM (QKKT0)

168 The firearms-related death rate, including suicide, homicide and unintentional death, is 10.7 per 100,000 in the United States. In the UK, it's 0.25. I certainly don't support banning guns of any kind, but I don't try to obscure the fact that exponentially higher rates of gun violence, including the mass murder of children, is the price we pay for this particular freedom.

Posted by: Jordan at December 31, 2012 05:06 PM (Hz1zc)


______________


What's the murder rate in Somalia, where guns are illegal (for anyone other than drug lords of course)?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 31, 2012 12:08 PM (HDgX3)

169 The firearms-related death rate, including suicide, homicide and unintentional death, is 10.7 per 100,000 in the United States. In the UK, it's 0.25. Have we met?

Posted by: Tautology at December 31, 2012 12:09 PM (QupBk)

170
Nope. Posted by: Marx, Engels, and the Socialist Labour Party


After all, men are just clay to be molded.  There is no such thing as human nature or genetics.  Well, except for the Joooooos, of course.  What?

Posted by: pep at December 31, 2012 12:09 PM (6TB1Z)

171 Al: "It looks like the Senate is going with permanent tax cuts for everyone making less than $400k."

Yeah, "permanent". Until the next Congress redefines or eliminates "permanent" and creates law de novo which is its domain.

What kabuki theater. The only things permanent in government are pork, crime redefined as "law," corruption, dishonesty, and idiocy. In no particular order.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 31, 2012 12:09 PM (eHIJJ)

172 "I certainly don't support banning guns of any kind, but I don't try to obscure the fact that exponentially higher rates of gun violence, including the mass murder of children, is the price we pay for this particular freedom."

maybe it's me but the first part of this sounds just a tad disingenuous

Posted by: JDP at December 31, 2012 12:09 PM (60GaT)

173 The only things permanent in government are pork, crime redefined as "law," corruption, dishonesty, and idiocy.

*cough cough*

Posted by: Spending Increases at December 31, 2012 12:10 PM (QKKT0)

174 Piers, please don't go, we will miss you said no one ever!!

Posted by: cathymv at December 31, 2012 12:10 PM (SzORY)

175 Hey DiT, yeah sure, we all knew the game was worthless going in, still some USC cheerleaders would have been nice. And no, I'm not going to waste my typing finger's time on the above mentioned, worthless rag hack.

Posted by: teej at December 31, 2012 12:10 PM (eVZCn)

176

Posted by: Jordan at December 31, 2012 05:06 PM (Hz1zc)

 

 

---------------------------------------------------

 

 

Hey, Jordan.  Is the Texas legislature still in session? 

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 12:10 PM (4ME3G)

177 Nope- that guy was named Nigel something-or-other. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 31, 2012 05:07 PM (1OZSU) ____________ I knew it was one of those funny British names. I think they should just name all their boys "buggerer."

Posted by: Cricket at December 31, 2012 12:10 PM (2ArJQ)

178 Well all great empires come to an end eventually. We had a good 230 years. By historical standards, not bad. But like every other empire, we got fat and lazy and threw it all away.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 31, 2012 12:11 PM (HDgX3)

179

Justin , beware of Captain Ahab.

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2012 12:11 PM (OlN4e)

180 I knew it was one of those funny British names. I think they should just name all their boys "buggerer."

Posted by: Cricket at December 31, 2012 05:10 PM (2ArJQ)

 

*****

 

I like it-   Buggerer Mountbatten

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 31, 2012 12:14 PM (1OZSU)

181 Leftism is a mental disorder, not a legitimate political ideology.  Once you   accept that as fact then the extreme cognitive dissonance that emanates from   the left wing becomes that much more clear and measurable.  It also helps   focus the mind.  Elections do have consequences.  There's a difference   between buzzed and falling down drunk and vomiting.  The post-1968, post-   BDS version of the Democrat Party all think like this Piers Morgan.  For   whom you vote has real world consequences.  And that includes not voting.  

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at December 31, 2012 12:14 PM (pmsMR)

182 And what happened then? Well in Whoville they say that Piers's sanctimony grew three sizes that day . . .

Posted by: Yeah right at December 31, 2012 12:14 PM (m0le6)

183 I'm thinking that Piers went with his friends to this facility in Prague: http://www.topgunprague.com/ No "45 magnum" currently for rent, but .357 available. What a tiresome fool, if anyone actually watched his show his opinion might matter someday....

Posted by: leftcoast at December 31, 2012 12:14 PM (Mjo/s)

184

Sweet fucking moses smell the roses.

 

Why the fuck do we even mention this fucktard.  Just get him the fuck gone already.  He's twice as stupid as Olberwoman.

 

Marco Rubio and Tom Cotton 2016 would boot his ass out no questions asked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

But seriously, can we never mention this clown fuck again.  Here's the deal you stupid fucks, when politicians give up their armed guards then we can have a "conversation".

 

UNTIL THEN, GO FUCK YOURSELVES YOU GUN CONTROL FREAKS, YOU HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR FUCKING HANDS WITH ALL THESE STUPID FUCKING "GUN FREE" ZONES.

Posted by: Prescient11 at December 31, 2012 12:14 PM (tVTLU)

185 Please, tell me more about this "Magnum 45 handgun" they have in Prague.


It works every time.

Posted by: Billy Dee Williams at December 31, 2012 12:16 PM (2jQGY)

186 I like it- Buggerer Mountbatten Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 31, 2012 05:14 PM (1OZSU) _____ British guys have something else on their minds when they say "get thee behind me, Satan."

Posted by: Cricket at December 31, 2012 12:16 PM (2ArJQ)

187 Well all great empires come to an end eventually. We had a good 230 years. By historical standards, not bad. But like every other empire, we got fat and lazy and threw it all away.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at December 31, 2012 05:11 PM (HDgX3)

 

We're not done yet--and for the record, we were never an empire. That's Patrick 'Hitler was a great man' Buchanan's big idea, and he's wrong about that as he's wrong about just about everything else.

Posted by: troyriser at December 31, 2012 12:16 PM (vtiE6)

188 "What's the murder rate in Somalia, where guns are illegal (for anyone other than drug lords of course)?" 1.2 per 100,000 population. Ours is 4.2. Compared to America, Somalia is downright peaceful.

Posted by: Jordan at December 31, 2012 12:16 PM (Hz1zc)

189 "Hey, Jordan. Is the Texas legislature still in session?" Nope, but Obama is still your president. Four more years!

Posted by: Jordan at December 31, 2012 12:17 PM (Hz1zc)

190 Posting them again because potato, gun control, lies and statistics (from PJM): http://preview.tinyurl.com/bo6p9yn and from TPoL: http://preview.tinyurl.com/bfxahnn Pretty much it's all lies, the *real* debate is over, and all we can do now is say NO, as loud and as often as possible. The other side will not discuss the issue.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 31, 2012 12:17 PM (bxiXv)

191 This is a great move on Piers' part. If he gets canned because he's such a disappointment at CNN, he can pretend that he's leaving because of mean ol' America's crazy addiction to guns. Then he'll leave looking all noble and all, instead of the reality that he got booted because he's a loser and a failure in his time slot.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 31, 2012 12:17 PM (cA2ZD)

192 Well then why don't you move your sorry ass to Somalia, where you can walk the streets in safety Jordan? Fucking windbag.

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2012 12:18 PM (OlN4e)

193 British guys have something else on their minds when they say "get thee behind me, Satan."

Posted by: Cricket at December 31, 2012 05:16 PM (2ArJQ)

 

 

----------------------------------------

 

 

Uh, just off the top of my  head, I don't think a British guy said that.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 12:18 PM (4ME3G)

194 My brother-in-law goes to Prague every year with his string quartet. How ghey is that?

Posted by: Cricket at December 31, 2012 12:18 PM (2ArJQ)

195 GA TECH 21 USC 7  9:34 4th Q

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 31, 2012 12:18 PM (8sCoq)

196 1.2 per 100,000 population. Ours is 4.2. Compared to America, Somalia is downright peaceful. Ha. The perils of Wiki. Really, I'm sure that Somalia had 138 homicides in a year, in a country with an ongoing civil war.

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 31, 2012 12:19 PM (QupBk)

197 Uh, just off the top of my head, I don't think a British guy said that. Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 05:18 PM (4ME3G) _____________ Soona, come down off that mountaintop.

Posted by: Cricket at December 31, 2012 12:19 PM (2ArJQ)

198 INXS - Never Tear Up Apart
http://youtu.be/ryT9OX8ZHi0

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 12:20 PM (fx1PU)

199 smiley-face smarm

Posted by: JDP at December 31, 2012 12:20 PM (60GaT)

200 There is such a thing as a .45 Magnum, but odds are that journalist was just making shit up. Actually, that's true of most things journalists say. MFM delenda est.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 31, 2012 12:20 PM (bxiXv)

201 Hey, where is everybody? Out drinking?

Posted by: Cricket at December 31, 2012 12:20 PM (2ArJQ)

202  GA TECH 21 USC 7 9:34 4th Q

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 31, 2012 05:18 PM (8sCoq)

 

 

------------------------------------------

 

 

I'll root for any team that beats a CA team.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 12:20 PM (4ME3G)

203 Well all great empires come to an end eventually. We had a good 230 years. By historical standards, not bad. But like every other empire, we got fat and lazy and threw it all away

Why is this true?  Is it human nature reasserting itself again?  Was Gibbon right?

Posted by: pep at December 31, 2012 12:21 PM (6TB1Z)

204

Jordan, you are not coming up with bogus statistics again are you??  Are you???

 

The United Kingdom has 4 times the rate of violent crime than the US.  How's that working out for "gun free" zones.

 

And also, take out "big cities/minority crimes" and tell me what the rates are.

 

Switzerland has a lower firearms death rate than Norway, and the Swiss have a military weapon in every head of household that wants one, 3rd in the world in gun ownership.

 

So hmmmm,  maybe the inanimate fucking metal has nothing to do with the problem, eh???

Posted by: Prescient11 at December 31, 2012 12:22 PM (tVTLU)

205 Soona, come down off that mountaintop.

Posted by: Cricket at December 31, 2012 05:19 PM (2ArJQ)

 

 

----------------------------------------------

 

 

No.  I like looking down on everybody.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 12:22 PM (4ME3G)

206 No. I like looking down on everybody. Posted by: Soona

Is it crowded up there with Barry?

Posted by: pep at December 31, 2012 12:23 PM (6TB1Z)

207 You heard it here first, from Jordan. Somalia is a bastion of peace and brotherhood. A veritable garden of eden, he says. Heh.

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2012 12:23 PM (OlN4e)

208 No. I like looking down on everybody. Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 05:22 PM (4ME3G) __________ Look! You scared everyone away!

Posted by: Cricket at December 31, 2012 12:24 PM (2ArJQ)

209 1.2 per 100,000 population. Ours is 4.2. Compared to America, Somalia is downright peaceful.

Please tell you aren't serious.  They just got a central government.  I'm sure keeping murder statistics was a top priority.

Posted by: no good deed at December 31, 2012 12:25 PM (mjR67)

210

July 2, 2009 Daily Mail article:

 

"The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S."
    What a peachy fucking place to be.

Posted by: Prescient11 at December 31, 2012 12:25 PM (tVTLU)

211 The Brit suicide rate is ~7/100k/yr. 

They brits apparently don't need guns to off themselves.

Posted by: @PurpAv at December 31, 2012 12:25 PM (hc3eM)

212 In fairness, the pirates are mostly getting killed outside the three mile limit.

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 31, 2012 12:25 PM (QupBk)

213 Hillary's clot is in her head, per Drudge/doctors. Just when I was beginning to suspect polonium.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 31, 2012 12:25 PM (tkoGU)

214 Re Sidebar Boogie With Stu...One of my LZ favorites.

Has anyone seen the Heart tribute performance a couple of days ago?

Posted by: sTevo at December 31, 2012 12:25 PM (VMcEw)

215 45 Magnum?

Posted by: Butters at December 31, 2012 12:25 PM (NIZHJ)

216 >Hey, where is everybody? Out drinking?

Just got back from picking up my Model 10 at a place called Wildfire Mercantile in Falcon CO. You guys would like this place. Out in the countryside. One of those prefab steel buildings you see on farms and ranches. The walls lined with rifles and shotguns and handguns. Plenty of ammo and reloading supplies. Three women running the place. It was like a company strength armory.

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 31, 2012 12:26 PM (8sCoq)

217 Is it crowded up there with Barry?

Posted by: pep at December 31, 2012 05:23 PM (6TB1Z)

 

 

----------------------------------------

 

 

Barry??  Oh, you mean that guy that's trying to  tell me that the snow really isn't white?

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 12:27 PM (4ME3G)

218 If there's one thing Somalians are known for, besides their peaceful nature, it's their detailed data gathering. 

Posted by: lowandslow at December 31, 2012 12:27 PM (7Nq2G)

219 it'll blow your head clean off

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 31, 2012 12:27 PM (Fely/)

220 I am sure keeping accurate crime stats is the number one priority in incompetent countries.

Posted by: Butters at December 31, 2012 12:27 PM (NIZHJ)

221 Hillary's clot is in her head, per Drudge/doctors. Just when I was beginning to suspect polonium.

Do you know how much time it took to squeeze that tiny bit of information out of them? 

Posted by: AmishDude at December 31, 2012 12:28 PM (T0NGe)

222 >Hey, where is everybody? Out drinking?

I am drinking in. This beer snob is hoisting PBR's.

Posted by: sTevo at December 31, 2012 12:28 PM (VMcEw)

223

So, what is the position of the rest of the cob-loggers on Piers Morgan threatening to exit our fair shores?

 

Who wants him to stay, and who wants him to go?  I suspect that Russ in Winterset secretly watches him on CNN.  

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at December 31, 2012 12:28 PM (Md8Uo)

224 Pizza or sushi tonight?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 12:28 PM (fx1PU)

225 USC is looking bad.

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 31, 2012 12:28 PM (QupBk)

226 Actually, the 450 Smith& Wesson is a .45 magnum.

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2012 12:29 PM (OlN4e)

227 I got a 45 magnum in my pants ..... you just watch how my girl will turn into a magnum for reals

Posted by: Kany West, now a parent at December 31, 2012 12:29 PM (jfSqj)

228 Better than that over hopped home micro brew crapola.

Posted by: Butters at December 31, 2012 12:29 PM (NIZHJ)

229 I vote sushi..... with tempura veggies.....

Posted by: fixerupper at December 31, 2012 12:29 PM (9MmIU)

230 1.2 per 100,000 population. Ours is 4.2. Compared to America, Somalia is downright peaceful. Posted by: Jordan

Ah, the lying liar that lies.

Somalia has been in civil war since the ninties, dumbass. Civil fucking war, with deaths estimates that range from 350k to a million, you twat. The current pop is 10 million, jackass.

That mean upwards of 10% of the population has in that fucking war, dipshit.

Take your fucking fraud and shove it up you prodigious ass, fucktard.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 31, 2012 12:29 PM (KDq5l)

231 I am drinking in. This beer snob is hoisting PBR's. Posted by: sTevo at December 31, 2012 05:28 PM (VMcEw) _____ sTevo, it's you and me against the world.

Posted by: Cricket at December 31, 2012 12:30 PM (2ArJQ)

232 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2656875.stm

"As gun crime leaps by 35% in a year, plans are afoot for a further crack down on firearms."

So I guess the bans really aren't working out so well."

...

"
The failure of this general disarmament to stem, or even slow, armed and violent crime could not be more blatant. According to a recent UN study, England and Wales have the highest crime rate and worst record for "very serious" offences of the 18 industrial countries surveyed."




Posted by: @PurpAv at December 31, 2012 12:30 PM (hc3eM)

233 "1.2 per 100,000 population. Ours is 4.2. Compared to America, Somalia is downright peaceful."

this is what happens when libs get too into their Pure Empiricism "reality-based" ideology and cut themselves off from actual reality

Posted by: JDP at December 31, 2012 12:30 PM (60GaT)

234 There is such a thing as a .45 Magnum, but odds are that journalist was just making shit up. Well, I've owned numerous .357's, shot a .41 mag, seen a few .44 mags, but never a 45 magnum.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 31, 2012 12:30 PM (3wlvV)

235 the funniest part is when he refers to himself as a news reporter

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 31, 2012 12:31 PM (qpM85)

236 Ah, the lying liar that lies. He's just a know-nothing. He trusted Wiki.

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 31, 2012 12:31 PM (QupBk)

237 Totally O/T.  Good afternoon Morons, but I just needs a sympathetic ear to be able to say, Fuck all you Takers.  The world was full of them today and even from friends that were far too sympathetic to said Takers.

Posted by: dogfish at December 31, 2012 12:31 PM (N2yhW)

238 >So, what is the position of the rest of the cob-loggers on Piers Morgan threatening to exit our fair shores?


I ask myself how many nightly viewers he has, throw in the fact that a major UK paper fired him for fabricating news, then conclude he's small potatoes

we pay far too much attention to these people, when the biggest enemy we face, I think, is the United States Congress

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 31, 2012 12:32 PM (8sCoq)

239 as you can see, my 45 Magnum shoots no blanks

Posted by: Kany West, now a parent at December 31, 2012 12:32 PM (jfSqj)

240

Hillary's clot is in her head?

 

So I'm guessing that if this is actually true, then she won't be at Barry's 3nd inaugural.

 

Man, what people will do to get out of that!

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at December 31, 2012 12:33 PM (Md8Uo)

241 fixerupper, shrimp tempura and at least a California roll.  nom nom nom

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 31, 2012 12:33 PM (fx1PU)

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2012 12:33 PM (OlN4e)

243 I saw it that night Steevy. Nancy nailed the acoustic intro as expected. Ann nailed the vocals also, as expected. The lead solo fine. Sadly, Jason Bonham was the one disappointment in the whole thing.

Posted by: teej at December 31, 2012 12:33 PM (SgWU/)

244 "Somalia has been in civil war since the ninties, dumbass. Civil fucking war, with deaths estimates that range from 350k to a million, you twat." Don't hate the messenger. Mr Moo asked me for the murder rate in Somalia and I looked it up for him. War-related deaths are not included in the intentional murder rate. That's obvious, or so I thought.

Posted by: Jordan at December 31, 2012 12:33 PM (Hz1zc)

245 > I am drinking in. This beer snob is hoisting PBR's.
Posted by: sTevo at December 31, 2012 05:28 PM (VMcEw)


I'm still plowing thru the Beam and eggnog. But this is the last night. Eggnog is purely a December thing.

Posted by: Jones in CO at December 31, 2012 12:34 PM (8sCoq)

246 @PurpAv  It is the 70s/80s all over again regarding gun bans.  These people are low achieving retarded teat suckers.  Yes, I wrote retarded.

Posted by: dogfish at December 31, 2012 12:34 PM (N2yhW)

247 Dunce double down.

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 31, 2012 12:34 PM (QupBk)

248 Cool. Infinite page loads are back. You went to Pamela Geller for tech support?

Posted by: Butters at December 31, 2012 12:34 PM (NIZHJ)

249

All this gun banning bullshit isn't about crime or murder.  It's all about wresting another liberty away from us so  the government will have more control over our lives.  It's nothing more.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 12:34 PM (4ME3G)

250 War-related deaths are not included in the intentional murder rate. That's obvious, or so I thought.

A small amount of intelligence is assumed.   Incorrectly in your case.

Posted by: pep at December 31, 2012 12:35 PM (6TB1Z)

251 What is obvious is that Jordan would be in mortal danger from the starving shit eating dogs in Somolia.

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2012 12:35 PM (OlN4e)

252 234:That's obvious, or so I thought. Posted by: Jordan at December 31, 2012 05:33 PM (Hz1zc) -- ...hence your claim that, "Compared to America, Somalia is downright peaceful. " Nice try at backpedaling, though.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 31, 2012 12:35 PM (Y5I9o)

253 Don't let the door hit you in the pompous ass on the way out, Piers.

Posted by: Andy at December 31, 2012 12:36 PM (OZPoa)

254 These people are low achieving retarded teat suckers. Yes, I wrote retarded.

Odd.  Teat suckers is what got my attention.

Posted by: pep at December 31, 2012 12:36 PM (6TB1Z)

255 "Compared to America, Somalia is downright peaceful. " Heh heh. That's certainly hyperbole. You're right.

Posted by: Jordan at December 31, 2012 12:36 PM (Hz1zc)

256 "Ha. The perils of Wiki. Really, I'm sure that Somalia had 138 homicides in a year, in a country with an ongoing civil war. Posted by: toby928© for TB " Who's doing the reporting and tabulating? Crime statistics are only as good as the accuracy of the local agencies that report the crimes.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 31, 2012 12:36 PM (cA2ZD)

257 Don't hate the messenger. Mr Moo asked me for the murder rate in Somalia and I looked it up for him. War-related deaths are not included in the intentional murder rate. That's obvious, or so I thought. Posted by: Jordan

And you lie, shit for brains. Somalia's murder rate is not 1.2, cunt-bubble. And, no you cannot remove the deaths from the civil war, crackhead.

That you wish to suck the dicks of those in power is your business and you should learn to keep it that way, slave.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at December 31, 2012 12:36 PM (KDq5l)

258 When there are literally thousands of bodies lying around, how do you figure they tell the difference between war dead and murders?

Posted by: Butters at December 31, 2012 12:37 PM (NIZHJ)

259 the thing is, if there's elements of dysfunction in society, then of course easy availability of guns can exacerbate problems

liberals are just constitutionally incapable of acknowledging the former, because it is Judgmental, so therefore the solution has to be: ban guns.

Posted by: JDP at December 31, 2012 12:37 PM (60GaT)

260 229 as you can see, my 45 Magnum shoots no blanks Posted by: Kany West, now a parent at December 31, 2012 05:32 PM (jfSqj) I did notice that your kid looks kind of like 50 Cent.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 31, 2012 12:37 PM (bxiXv)

261 Not hyperbole, just an old fashioned bare faced lie. It might fly over at Kos, not here fucktard.

Posted by: maddogg at December 31, 2012 12:37 PM (OlN4e)

262 found this, here is 21 seconds of good stuff taken from a pistol match in 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glEIzKTsBrU&list=UU9rZer1se8A31xJvrF6Y6NA&index=77 johny hard core right there

Posted by: Kany West, now a parent at December 31, 2012 12:38 PM (jfSqj)

263 C'mon guys. The Somalians are too busy killing each other to murder each other. Duh.

Posted by: Andy at December 31, 2012 12:38 PM (OZPoa)

264 That you wish to suck the dicks of those in power is your business and you should learn to keep it that way, slave. Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 31, 2012 05:36 PM (KDq5l) _____________ My advice to you on this happy New Year's Eve: stay away from the scotch.

Posted by: Cricket at December 31, 2012 12:38 PM (2ArJQ)

265

There was an interesting bit o' writing/linking  on Instapundit today about intelligence being related to the predatory drive.  Most of the more intelligent species on earth are some kind of predator (elephants may be the sole exception that I can think of).  Even our primate cousins are somewhat predatory.

 

Anyway, when a human society thinks they are too civilized to be predatory (oh those icky hunters!), that is sure sign that they are about to take a nose dive into the civilizational sewer.

 

 

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at December 31, 2012 12:39 PM (Md8Uo)

266 It is the 70s/80s all over again regarding gun bans. These people are low achieving retarded teat suckers. Yes, I wrote retarded.

Posted by: dogfish at December 31, 2012 05:34 PM (N2yhW)

 

 

-------------------------------------------------

 

 

The more modern era of gun banning actully started  after the JFK assassination  when mail-order guns were declared unlawful.

 

I miss those advertisements in Popular Mechanics for Mausers for $24.50, Lee Enfields for $16, and M1 Garands for  $50.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 12:39 PM (4ME3G)

267 Waiting for Piers to be caught with Divine Brown to revive his career.

Posted by: t-bird at December 31, 2012 12:39 PM (FcR7P)

268 Posted by: Kany West, now a parent at December 31, 2012 05:38 PM (jfSqj) I was unable to attend, way to white for me

Posted by: Kany West, now a parent at December 31, 2012 12:40 PM (jfSqj)

269 Interesting, Wiki, fwiw, says that the US homicide rate fell by 50% between 1991 and 2010.

Posted by: toby928 for TB at December 31, 2012 12:40 PM (QupBk)

270 "Interesting, Wiki, fwiw, says that the US homicide rate fell by 50% between 1991 and 2010." Violence is declining worldwide in almost every category, from spanking to robbery to murder to war. One of the best (but statistically dense!) books of last year is Steven Pinker's "The Better Angels of Our Nature." According to Pinker, and I believe him, we're living in the most peaceful period in human history.

Posted by: Jordan at December 31, 2012 12:43 PM (Hz1zc)

271 I'm loving the new trend on a lot of these news sites that formerly had open comments.  If it's about killing NRA members, the comments are locked or part of the pay service.

Posted by: Ranba Ral at December 31, 2012 12:44 PM (G99e4)

272 Demand a plane now.

Posted by: Piers, First Douche of Wankminster at December 31, 2012 12:45 PM (w8EDn)

273 Violence is declining worldwide in almost every category, from spanking to robbery to murder to war.

Let's consider what else has happened in that time frame.  Oh, fertility has dropped to an all time low, with a concomitant drop in the numbers of young males.  It's almost as if human nature is immutable. 



Naaaaaaah.

Posted by: pep at December 31, 2012 12:46 PM (6TB1Z)

274 I miss those advertisements in Popular Mechanics for Mausers for $24.50, Lee Enfields for $16, and M1 Garands for $50. Hmm. Are they pegged to the price of gold?

Posted by: t-bird at December 31, 2012 12:47 PM (FcR7P)

275 Posted by: Soona

I do remember that ...almost... early 60's baby.   I do vividly remember school teachers pumping that crap and all I could think was "how could that possibly be legal given the Constitution"  ...even a 3rd grader knows these assholes are full of shit.

Posted by: dogfish at December 31, 2012 12:47 PM (N2yhW)

276 Can't any of these Enlightened Geniuses come up with anything new?  Ohhhh it's that icky Constitution's fault!   Yeah, never heard that before.


Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. We're not worthy. at December 31, 2012 12:50 PM (Gk3SS)

277 All this gun banning bullshit isn't about crime or murder. It's all about wresting another liberty away from us so the government will have more control over our lives. It's nothing more.

Posted by: Soona at December 31, 2012 05:34 PM (4ME3G)

 

Thank you. The Left has reframed the debate, as usual, in order to obfuscate the core issues. As an aside, am I the only person who remembers leftist commentary by pundits and politicians immediately following the Benghazi incident, when they were still blaming the attack on that YouTube video? According to them, the 1st Amendment is in need of revision, as well. There was talk of legislatively moving forward with 'hate speech' legislation similiar to laws enacted in Canada and the EU.

 

Can't have the 1st without the 2nd, and the Left doesn't like either. And no, it's no coincidence that Piers Morgan and that 'constitutional scholar' writing for NYT (and linked in the AoS sidebar) are calling for the whole-cloth revamping or repeal in toto of the US Constitution. They're pushing it hard right now, I'm guessing so they can test public reaction and adjust accordingly.

Posted by: troyriser at December 31, 2012 12:50 PM (vtiE6)

278 According to Pinker, and I believe him, we're living in the most peaceful period in human history.

Posted by: Jordan at December 31, 2012 05:43 PM (Hz1zc)

 

According to Bob Dylan, "Peace is the time it takes to reload." Just sayin'.

Posted by: troyriser at December 31, 2012 12:52 PM (vtiE6)

279 Just that one time in Prague, Piers? That's what they all say. Maybe you're forgetting a couple fox hunts in your youth? Perhaps a pigeon shoot with the vicar?

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 31, 2012 12:53 PM (tkoGU)

280 Perhaps a pigeon shoot with the vicar?

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 31, 2012 05:53 PM (tkoGU)

 

*****

 

So that's what they're calling it now?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 31, 2012 01:05 PM (1OZSU)

281 "Somalia has been in civil war since the ninties, dumbass. Civil fucking war, with deaths estimates that range from 350k to a million, you twat."

Don't hate the messenger. Mr Moo asked me for the murder rate in Somalia and I looked it up for him. War-related deaths are not included in the intentional murder rate. That's obvious, or so I thought.

Posted by: Jordan at December 31, 2012 05:33 PM (Hz1zc)


Hey Jordan murders in Hiroshima on August 7, 1945 were really low also - those vaporized people just can't pull a trigger worth a darn. So we have the Liberal cure for gun crimes, just nuke em and they can't kill each other! Hey, its reality based and its a proven successful technique!!eleventy!!

I wonder if you have even a clue how mentally ill you are?



Posted by: An Observation at December 31, 2012 01:22 PM (ylhEn)

282 My advice to you on this happy New Year's Eve: stay away from the scotch. My advice, stay away from the flu. I'll be lucky if I can eat dinner, let alone have a drink. 2012 sucked, and 2013 is off to a shitty start.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at December 31, 2012 01:33 PM (069I3)

283 Dear Piers,

Need help packing? Call me.

Regards ...

Posted by: Brown Line at December 31, 2012 01:33 PM (6d08e)

284 Wish I had me one of them .45 Magnums. I am real surprised this sissy boy had one since  ammo is about $10 a round and guns that fire it rarer than a AR-15 in Britain.

Posted by: pat at December 31, 2012 02:10 PM (vY2MW)

285 For some reason the political opportunism around this tragedy is bringing up concerns over a possible attempt to re-create the dynamics of the Reichstag Fire. Especially if they can provoke people into a visible act of rebellion against gun laws. I do think that will be an objective to provoke some sort of riot or angry mob response, and use that as grounds to establish some draconian laws or possibly martial law. So - stay calm. " Using emergency constitutional powers, Adolf Hitler’s cabinet had issued a Decree for the Protection of the German People on February 4, 1933. This decree placed constraints on the press and authorized the police to ban political meetings and marches, effectively hindering electoral campaigning. A temporary measure, it was followed by a more dramatic and permanent suspension of civil rights following the February 27 burning of the parliament building(substitute massacre at the school) Though the origins of the fire are still unclear, in a propaganda maneuver, the coalition government (Nazis and the German Nationalist People's Party) blamed the Communists(substitute gun owners). They exploited the Reichstag fire to secure President von Hindenburg’s approval for an emergency decree, the Decree for the Protection of the People and the State of February 28. Popularly known as the Reichstag Fire Decree, the regulations suspended the right to assembly, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and other constitutional protections, including all restraints on police investigations." Four years ago I would have blown this possibility off as nonsense. Now we are already halfway there --

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at December 31, 2012 02:35 PM (vA9kU)

286 People have wondered about the agency of God in this. Well, I don't know if there is a God, but if I was trying to decode this to determine my stand (which thankfully, I don't have to, since I am firm in my beliefs, spending time in their derivation), we will be given every possibility to throw liberty away. If we keep it, it will be because we earned it. If not, then the America that was serves as a useful object lesson for the distant future on how liberty can be achieved--and that it is a fragile bubble that goes against the normal state of man, and can be lost.

Posted by: A. at December 31, 2012 03:22 PM (0K51S)

287 Along those notes--there are some who will say the hurricane of October was divine, and in favor of the incumbent. Today should put the kybosh on that, because I hardly think Barack Obama's behavior today was meek, humble, or Godly. Instead, it was more of a piece with every man throughout history who based the righteousness of actions based on whether or not he could get away with it in the temporal realm, and not by any other precept. A belief that there was no one stronger.

Posted by: A. at December 31, 2012 03:28 PM (0K51S)

288 I'm sure Piers' dildo collection has more firepower than I possess.

Posted by: Model-1066 at December 31, 2012 03:30 PM (x+bXX)

289 One question:
Do we even know if the kid used the AR to murder those children?

I would rather live in a land where there is a very slim chance a kook could shoot me dead than live in a land where SOMEONE decides if I can have something sharper than a butter knife.

Posted by: Jose Wales at December 31, 2012 03:36 PM (RsuzN)

290 DLTDHYITAOYWO

Posted by: Blacksmith8 at December 31, 2012 03:51 PM (Yzu6e)

291 France and Denmark have higher suicides per capita than the US.  Practically speaking, there aren't handguns in Denmark.  So if we eliminate handguns in the US will gun suicides drop?  Sure they will, but will the suicides happen by another "Denmark" means?  Almost certainly so, but they presto-change-o won't be gun crimes anymore. All of the politicians can then pat themselves on the back for eliminating gun crime.

Posted by: Jose Wales at December 31, 2012 03:52 PM (RsuzN)

292 When a madcap gunman decides to shoot up the town of Hungerford, England, the local police and citizens engage in 8 hours of unarmed hi-jinx as he kills 16 people. Starring Don Knotts as Constable Pants.

Posted by: TV Guide - Hell Edition at December 31, 2012 03:52 PM (SzAZ7)

293 Morgan is a notorious liar who Britain doesn't seem to want back. He also lied that "nobody can explain" why anybody needs semiautomatic rifles. Larry Pratt was telling him when Morgan ordered him to shut up.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at December 31, 2012 07:02 PM (gaPEx)

294 Don't let the door hit you on the butt on your way out, Piers.

Posted by: Lee at December 31, 2012 07:11 PM (RtwOA)

295 "Well, bye.

Posted by: Curly Bill at December 31, 2012 10:18 PM (i0aCV)

296 ey themWe should her rid of those duo laws too because some people don't

Posted by: occam at January 01, 2013 05:00 AM (Zofe/)

297

Don't let the door hit you, where the good lod split you.

 

Do we need to take up a collection to help this no talent moron go back to the onec great country of England?  As if they needed more incompetent journalist in that country.  This man has not produced a single good show during his time in the United States and I cannot understand why they network hired him, we have many liberal Kool-aid drinkers in the media without importing the lunitic fringe.

 

He does not even attempt to understand that America is differant than the socialist regimes og the Europe Union, at least for now.

Posted by: John21 at January 02, 2013 04:44 AM (46VAS)

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