August 31, 2011

Palin's Tea Party Speech In Indianola "On Hold"
— Ace

She announced yesterday that she'll fly to New Hampshire to meet with a Tea Party group there right after she's done in Iowa -- a sign that maybe she is running after all.

But meanwhile, there's a problem with the much-promoted September 3rd appearance.

Sarah Palin’s Saturday appearance at a tea party rally in Indianola, Iowa, is on hold, a person close the former Alaska governor told The Wall Street Journal.

The person said Ms. Palin’s appearance was “no longer confirmed” and cited “continual lying” from event organizers at Tea Party of America, including a recent mixup over whether former U.S. Senate candidate Christine O’Donnell of Delaware would also speak.

Ms. Palin is known for last-minute schedule changes that whipsaw supporters and media across the country. But the latest decision is puzzling. Ms. Palin’s speech at the rally was viewed as her most high-profile appearance of the summer, fueling speculation she was indeed plotting to run for the Republican presidential nomination.

Attendees were reportedly traveling from across the U.S. to attend the rally in Iowa, which holds the nation’s first nominating contest next year.

The whole article is jam-packed and I can't excerpt it all. One major issue seems to be the invitation extended to Christine O'Donnell to speak before Palin, which, if I'm reading this right, the Palin team quashed. But then, after cancelling that, the Tea Party group re-invited O"Donnell, some Tea Party organizers of the event "lying" (a source claims) in telling Palin's people that Palin herself had authorized a re-invitation.

I always thought it was pretty dumb that Christine O'Donnell would be speaking before Palin, if she intended to announce her bid for the presidency-- she doesn't need that headache. And I took this (silently; didn't write it) as a sign maybe she wasn't running.

But it turns out the Tea Party group organizing the event did this on their own, and Palin rejected it, and then they re-invited Christine O'Donnell, and Palin put the whole event "on hold."

She's apparently putting together some other appearances, without this group's involvement.

I know this is going to cause the typical fights in the comments but it's news.

I also know there is no point in saying this, but Ms. Palin's current jobs are 1, to appear on FoxNews, and 2, to manage her appearances, and she is forever cancelling appearances for one reason or another. This doesn't give me confidence in her management abilities, but I'm sure that's just because I hate women.

It also doesn't give me confidence that we have more accusations of "lying." Maybe the Tea Party organizers did lie. Or maybe they were just confused. Maybe they were just disorganized.

I don't know. But things tend to get personal with the Palins, and accusations of bad faith and malice quickly issue.

Yes, It Was About Christine O'Donnell: We already knew this, but...

To cut Palin a break -- What. Were. They. Thinking?

Assuming Palin wanted to announce for President-- did she want the nightly news report on this announcement to feature "speaking before Palin was failed Tea Party candidate Christine O'Donnell, who earlier had to deny she was a witch"?

The Tea Party often says it wants to bring "common sense" to America. I believe them, and I think it's important.

But they seem to have a blind spot, or an unwillingness to accept certain "common sense" realities -- such as the fact that while some (not all) Tea Partiers may still view Christine O'Donnell as a maligned hero, most of the public -- and, I'd imagine, most of the Tea Party -- views her as a drag on the movement.

There is a "Never give up on anything" spirit in some Tea Partiers which is kind of laudable but also kind of dunderheaded. Some bets have been lost. The house took those bets back hours ago. Going to the ATM and withdrawing another $5000 to win those bad bets back is a losing strategy, and exactly what the house -- the Media-Democratic Complex -- wants you to do.

The More I Think About It... The less I find fault with Palin.

What was the Tea Party of America thinking?

A Christine O'Donnell appearance siphons some of Palin's prestige and viability (which are not in oversupply) to Christine O'Donnell. Palin would validate (to some extent) O'Donnell, but only at the expense of Palin's supply of political capital.

How does this help Palin? It doesn't. Quite the opposite. And even if the rehabilitation of Christine O'Donnell is a worthy goal (which it's not, but if it were), Palin would naturally object to being drafted into being a major player in this project.

Further, if there is one time it is not selfish to declare "It's all about me, and everyone must focus on me," it is when you are declaring for President.

If Palin had a mind to declare on September 3rd, what is the Tea Party of America doing by stealing some of her spotlight for the non-factor Christine O'Donnell?

And then, after Palin's objections, re-inviting her anyway?

Still, if this was to be announcement, it should have been better controlled. It should have been the case that Palin, not the Tea Party of America, invited the other speakers.

Now "No Change"? Seems like the toothpaste is being stuffed back into the tube. A Tea Party of America spokesman now says if there's been a change, he doesn't know about it.

But that conflicts with a prior statement from the Tea Party of America president:

Tea Party of America President Ken Crow told NBC News, "I had to cancel Ms. O'Donnell" after a conversation with Sarah Palin aides -- and is now hopeful Palin will attend the Saturday rally in Indianola.

He was told by Palin's team that he'd have a final answer shortly.

...

The group has spent about $100,000 on the event for Palin and are thus waiting "with baited breath" for an answer. An official press release will come out after Palin people give Crow final word.


Posted by: Ace at 08:12 AM | Comments (287)
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1 *popping popcorn*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 08:13 AM (UOM48)

2 Hater!

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 08:14 AM (Xm1aB)

3 Thread ate my comment.  *finishes popping popcorn*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 08:14 AM (UOM48)

4 You hate women, and puppies.

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 08:14 AM (OhYCU)

5 "she is forever cancelling appearances" Got some examples? Like at least three?

Posted by: Randall Hoven at August 31, 2011 08:14 AM (zL/XL)

6 (1.  Ace, you can't hate women, you love Christina Hendricks, like any red-blooded American male.

(2.  Palin or bust.

(3.  Obama is, by all accounts, a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

(4.  First.

Posted by: KinleyArdal at August 31, 2011 08:15 AM (UqEha)

7 A Pallin/COD thread.  What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 08:15 AM (UOM48)

8 She does this shit all the time. At least in this instance there's advance warning instead of her just simply not showing up.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 31, 2011 08:15 AM (Nrq/O)

9 Somebody predicted this thread would appear today. Have at it, morons.

Posted by: Zombie Travis the Chimp at August 31, 2011 08:15 AM (j5dsa)

10 Damnit!  Not first =(

Posted by: KinleyArdal at August 31, 2011 08:15 AM (UqEha)

11 ace is like a PDS troll on his own blog

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 08:15 AM (OhYCU)

12 She's a quitter!!!

/ wait, what side am I supposed to be on?

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 08:15 AM (OhYCU)

13 Dammit.  Pallin-Palin.  I's spells likes Barky.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 08:16 AM (UOM48)

14 racist.

Posted by: Darin H at August 31, 2011 08:16 AM (3kW1y)

15 Maybe she should fire George Jones as her campaign manager.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 08:16 AM (Xm1aB)

16 Oh, and my sock will eat your face.

Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at August 31, 2011 08:17 AM (j5dsa)

17 COD and Palin in one thread. This'll be like watching dogs chasing two cars going in diverging directions.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 31, 2011 08:17 AM (326rv)

18 Hey, I got invited to speak by the Coffee Party - that's pretty cool, yes?

Posted by: Jon Hunstman at August 31, 2011 08:17 AM (CWmEB)

19 Randall, From the WSJ -- "Ms. Palin is known for last-minute schedule changes that whipsaw supporters and media across the country" I know she first said she'd be going to CPAC, then withdrew, saying she'd never agreed. CPAC thought she had. She said she hadn't.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 08:17 AM (nj1bB)

20 In related news, I'm not scheduled in Iowa now either.

Posted by: RioBravo at August 31, 2011 08:17 AM (eEfYn)

21 Captain Clusterfuck has scheduled his speech to Congress next Wednesday night....during the time scheduled several weeks ago for Republican debates. 

Coincydink?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 08:18 AM (UOM48)

22 Re: CO'D I think it's interesting that Palin said, "Um, no, Christine O'Donnell will NOT be speaking before me." So is now uncontroversial to say bad things about Christine O'Donnell ?

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 08:18 AM (nj1bB)

23 18 Hey, I got invited to speak by the Coffee Party - that's pretty cool, yes?

Yes, but have you gotten your invitation to speak at the Lemon Party? 

Posted by: Mike Huckabee at August 31, 2011 08:19 AM (9hSKh)

24 Palin never said she wasn't going to the TP rally. 

It was the infamous "Sources Say"

Posted by: Payaso at August 31, 2011 08:19 AM (KeS3u)

25 Who made Sarah prom queen?

*ducks and runs*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 08:19 AM (UOM48)

26 Seems to me at this point, distancing oneself from COD is smart. I hate Piers Morgan, but COD's recent "interview" revealed her as truly bizarre.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 08:20 AM (Xm1aB)

27

This suspense/tease thing is annoying. If this is her deliberate strategy, I'm out. 

If this is just waffling/thrashing around, I'm out.

So I guess I'm out. Go Perry!

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at August 31, 2011 08:20 AM (SCcgT)

28 um....

Tepid Air has the kerfuffle over....

Palin still isn't as big a diva as Chairman Soetoro

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 08:20 AM (AEIYh)

29 >>>ace is like a PDS troll on his own blog Cherry pi, I'm not a troll, I'm just informing you of things you don't want to hear. Things just do not seem to go smoothly with Palin.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 08:20 AM (nj1bB)

30 President Obama is a Stuttering Clusterfuck of Miserable Failure.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at August 31, 2011 08:20 AM (bZ8J6)

31 Ace, I didn't realize it was to begin with.

Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at August 31, 2011 08:20 AM (j5dsa)

32 "I think it's interesting that Palin said, "Um, no, Christine O'Donnell will NOT be speaking before me."" Failed pet projects hardest hit.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 31, 2011 08:21 AM (Nrq/O)

33 Todd needs to go on Dancing with the Stars. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 08:21 AM (UOM48)

34 23 18 Hey, I got invited to speak by the Coffee Party - that's pretty cool, yes?

Yes, but have you gotten your invitation to speak at the Lemon Party? 

Posted by: Mike Huckabee at August 31, 2011 01:19 PM (9hSKh)

Can't beat my invite to speak at the Lukewarm Chicken Broth party. I RULZ!

Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 31, 2011 08:21 AM (CWmEB)

35 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

As to COD speaking before Sarah Palin... ummm... who cares?  COD isn't exactly toxic, especially to the Tea Party, so I can't see any real harm, there.  Moreover, you've got to have somebody to "warm up the crowd" before Palin speaks, so they had to have somebody.  Name someone else who would be willing to, right now.

Beyond that, I'm with the crowd popping popcorn.  I want mine with extra butter.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 08:21 AM (8y9MW)

36 Beyond that, I'm with the crowd popping popcorn.  I want mine with extra butter.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 01:21 PM (8y9MW)


You'll eat yours without butter and like it!

Posted by: Moochelle Antoinette at August 31, 2011 08:22 AM (UOM48)

37 ...or get off the pot.

Posted by: dogfish at August 31, 2011 08:23 AM (NuPNl)

38 Anyone seen Perry?

Posted by: Phineas at August 31, 2011 08:23 AM (CWmEB)

39 Funny to see COD haters taking up for her vs Palin. Their fear of vajajays is strong.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at August 31, 2011 08:23 AM (bZ8J6)

40 11 ace is like a PDS troll on his own blog

Perhaps Ace is really Allahpenis ?

Posted by: Barbarian at August 31, 2011 08:23 AM (EL+OC)

41 The media is just mad that she whipsaws the media, not what she does to her supporters.

But if I were a Palin Supporter (as opposed to a defender) I'd've given up on her a long time ago.

And, look, she isn't the white knight of the Republican party. People aren't thinking about her and don't need her. She didn't even register at the straw poll and I guarantee that she would have gotten votes if people wanted her.

She will not win the primary. Perry is The Hulk of the Republican party. If you hit him, he just becomes stronger.

I do have one piece of advice for Palin, though:
@Chris_Moody: If Sarah Palin really wanted to shake things up right now, she'd declare a "big announcement" to be made on Sept. 7 at 8:00

Posted by: AmishDude at August 31, 2011 08:23 AM (T0NGe)

42 Then again I dissed Mother Theresa, once.

Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at August 31, 2011 08:24 AM (j5dsa)

43 >>>COD isn't exactly toxic, especially to the Tea Party, so I can't see any real harm, there. Moreover, you've got to have somebody to "warm up the crowd" before Palin speaks, so they had to have somebody. Name someone else who would be willing to, right now. She's not toxic? You say "especially to the tea party" but that's "especially," so you're saying she's not generally toxic. If that's what you're saying, and it does appear you are, I think you have insulated yourself far too much from outside-the-conservative-bubble sources, and are now cocooning yourself. There is a reason Palin objected to CO'D, AllenG. That reason is apparently not evident to you, but it's evident to most.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 08:24 AM (nj1bB)

44 38 Anyone seen Perry?

He's busy murderin'. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 08:24 AM (UOM48)

45 Things just do not seem to go smoothly with Palin.

Posted by: ace

Yeah, and this is what gives me pause whenever I hear she might run. I don't know what's really going on (scheduling snafus, communication problems, etc.), but it's starting to look really flakey. Not the kind of thing you want to see from a potential nominee...

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 31, 2011 08:24 AM (h1p5V)

46 Yeah, can't imagine why things might tend to get personal with Palin! What's up with that?

Posted by: moviegique at August 31, 2011 08:24 AM (kNN2d)

47 Indianola?  The wingnut bitch doesn't even know how to spell Indiana.  The inbred hick should get out of the spot light and back to where she belongs, in my sexual fantasies in which she wears a 10 inch strapon.

Posted by: palin steele at August 31, 2011 08:25 AM (/Mla1)

48 And for God's fucking sake already, it's "clusterfuck" and not "clusterf*ck". If we're going to beat a meme to death let's at least ditch the prudish shit and spell it out so it'll actually work.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 31, 2011 08:25 AM (Nrq/O)

49 I'm just informing you of things you don't want to hear.

The only thing I don't want to hear is "Obama wins reelection".  Everything else is just entertainment.

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 08:25 AM (OhYCU)

50 Get off her ass, Sarah will show up or she won't, so bite it.

Posted by: George Jones at August 31, 2011 08:25 AM (Xm1aB)

51 The problem with O'Donnell isn't O'Donnell.  It's that we didn't have someone better available.  Someone who is both passable to conservatives and electable in DE.  Perhaps that isn't even possible, but I think it is and the reason that election was so sore is because it's frustrating not to be able to find such a person.

We can't rely on the Tea Party Express to find these electable conservatives.  Only the grassroots will do it in those harder states.

I don't hear a lot of talk about taking over the party anymore, but it should still be ongoing.  Getting involved in your precinct and taking over the party is a permanent condition of the real TEA partiers.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 08:26 AM (fF625)

52 44 38 Anyone seen Perry?

He's busy murderin

Oh, there he is...

Posted by: Phineas at August 31, 2011 08:26 AM (CWmEB)

53 Eh. Sarah needs to find a venue soon -- like within the next week or so -- stand up in front of the people at that venue, and say either "I'm running for president!" or "I'm not running for president, and I'll tell you who I support later!" The teasing and testing and probing and whatnot is getting old and alienating people who otherwise wish her well.

Posted by: joncelli at August 31, 2011 08:26 AM (RD7QR)

54 There is a reason Palin objected to CO'D, AllenG. That reason is apparently not evident to you, but it's evident to most.

I say she's "not toxic" because I don't think most people think about her at all.
Heck, I'm fairly plugged in, and I completely forget she exists, most of the time.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 08:26 AM (8y9MW)

55 Even I could beat Obama next year.  Right?

Posted by: Sharron Miller Angle-O'Donnell at August 31, 2011 08:26 AM (f8XyF)

56 Beefy, I'm not sticking up for CO'D. I'm wondering why this is so glitchy. And there is a pattern of glitches in her appearances.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 08:26 AM (nj1bB)

57 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 01:21 PM (8y9MW)



Just out of curiosity, are you trying to keep yourself off the FBI watch list with the * in your comment?



Posted by: Sponge at August 31, 2011 08:26 AM (UK9cE)

58

What's this about Sarah Palin? Is it 2009 again?

(And Obama is a stuttering ********u** of a miserable failure.)

Posted by: FireHorse at August 31, 2011 08:26 AM (RZRz9)

59 Barack Obama is a stutter cl*sterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: yinzer at August 31, 2011 08:27 AM (/Mla1)

60 Seems to me that this is late news.  Speech is on as far as I can tell. 

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 31, 2011 08:27 AM (Fo83G)

61 I think it's interesting that Palin said, "Um, no, Christine O'Donnell will NOT be speaking before me."

So is now uncontroversial to say bad things about Christine O'Donnell ?

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 01:18 PM (nj1bB)

But Palin did it right in this case.  Leave people to infer things if you must, but don't take unnecessary shots in the back for the smug factor (I'm looking at you Karl Rove).

Standing alone on the mountain saying, "I was right" makes you alone on the mountain.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 31, 2011 08:27 AM (T0NGe)

62 And there is a pattern of glitches in her appearances.

OMG!! run for the hills!!  Hide the children!!


Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 08:28 AM (OhYCU)

63 War of the Undead States, Actually I prefer it as "clusterf*ck." Honestly, seriously, the more f-bombs are in these threads the worse it is for me. It's not the worse thing in the world to write "f*ck." I almost always write "SCOAMF" to avoid the f-bomb.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 08:28 AM (nj1bB)

64 Ok, I am giving up on Palin. There is just too much drama with everything she does Maybe it's by design but I really don't care anymore. She is free to go talk to whoever or do whatever she wants including run for president but I'm done.

Posted by: robtr at August 31, 2011 08:28 AM (MtwBb)

65 Yeah, and this is what gives me pause whenever I hear she might run. I don't know what's really going on (scheduling snafus, communication problems, etc.), but it's starting to look really flakey. Not the kind of thing you want to see from a potential nominee...

It's kind of like that guy who's late to work all the time.  Maybe it is just that no matter which way he goes he runs into a wreck, or a freak accident between a truck hauling chickens and a tanker truck full of tar, or (as really happens in Texas, from time to time) a herd of cattle on the freeway.  Whatever the cause, eventually it comes to be seen as being unreliable.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 08:28 AM (8y9MW)

66 Obama is a ****** ****  of a ***************   **************

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 08:28 AM (OhYCU)

67 This is so funny that it's worth going off topic ...

Many Mock Kansas State's Environmental Mascot

Kansas State University recently introduced EcoKat, a special mascot to promote environmental causes -- and the fans are not thrilled. The Kansas City Star reported that, on Twitter, the #ecokat hashtag suggests considerable dislike, and that a #fakeecokat has also emerged on Twitter. Among recent tweets: "#EcoKat makes me want to leave my porch light on 24hours and drive two blocks to the gas station for a pack of gum," "EcoKat: The worst idea since the Power Towel" and from a University of Kansas fan "MY GOD. What is #kstate thinking? And you ask why you get made fun of ... #EcoKat. Please never change."

Kansas State University was the only public university in Kansas to make the Princeton Review's "Guide to Green Colleges" in 2011, but that's only the beginning. EcoKat is here to make sure K-State stays on the path to green.

Posted by: James Loughner at August 31, 2011 08:28 AM (e8kgV)

68 cherry pi, I know, I know, organization and reliability aren't important attributes for a president.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 08:29 AM (nj1bB)

69 From the WSJ -- "Ms. Palin is known for last-minute schedule changes that whipsaw supporters and media across the country"

I know she first said she'd be going to CPAC, then withdrew, saying she'd never agreed. CPAC thought she had. She said she hadn't.

So, you haven't got three examples for something she does all the time. I have no idea if she does or doesn't but that's pretty weak support for an accusation.

Posted by: Heorot at August 31, 2011 08:29 AM (Nq/UF)

70 I'm kind of suffering from Palin Burnout Syndrome.  I think if Palin were to become President, it might very well be like having my wife as President.  My wife is an expert being bitchy.  I would have to join Alec Baldwin at wherever he went after GW was re-elected.  He left right?  He said he would. 

Just sayin'

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 31, 2011 08:30 AM (jx2j9)

71 >>Actually I prefer it as "clusterf*ck." >>Honestly, seriously, the more f-bombs are in these threads the worse it is for me. Wel F&%# me. I wish I had known this. I'll watch my F(*&#@) mouth.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 31, 2011 08:30 AM (TMB3S)

72 5 "she is forever cancelling appearances" Got some examples? Like at least three?

Posted by: Randall Hoven at August 31, 2011 01:14 PM (zL/XL)



Palin canceled her bus tour during the tour, she cancelled her trip to the Sudan, Last February she cancelled several speeches after the Giffords shooting.  The McCain campaign was irritated because she cancelled several speeches on the west Coast in September of 08 with only days notice. In Aug pf 09 she cancelled a speech at the last munute to the Alaska Family Council.  There's many more.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at August 31, 2011 08:30 AM (gcxdG)

73 Posted by: © Sponge at August 31, 2011 01:26 PM (UK9cE)

I don't actually curse (normally: y'all bring out the best in me, I suppose).  I'll get right up to the line, and I'll use euphemisms with the best of them, but I don't normally actually curse.

It's just a thing.

Besides, at this point, I think I might give someone a heart attack if I left out the asterisk.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 08:30 AM (8y9MW)

74 Hasn't rolling in late or just not showing up become a pre-requisite for becoming POTUS?

Posted by: yinzer at August 31, 2011 08:31 AM (/Mla1)

75 OT: Turns out I'm the victim of a massive conspiracy.

Swinburn's paper comes up with a clear primary culprit: a powerful global food industry "which is producing more processed, affordable, and effectively-marketed food than ever before".

He said an "increased supply of cheap, palatable, energy-dense foods", coupled with better distribution and marketing, had led to "passive overconsumption".


Bastards have been making cheap, palatable food without one thought as to whether it would make me fat by passive over consumption.  I've always suspected that it wasn't my fault.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 31, 2011 08:31 AM (Hx5uv)

76
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I am lesbokat, the official mascot of Vassar!

Yay.

/cartwheel

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two, four, six, eight, let's hear it for gay-bait!!!

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Posted by: lesbokat at August 31, 2011 08:31 AM (G/zuv)

77 I just can't imagine her getting in now.  Perry has got all the mo and people are growing weary of her games and attention seeking.  She's done wonders for the Republican party and the TEA Party, but she's not all that viable anymore.

MO of course.

Posted by: Sponge at August 31, 2011 08:32 AM (UK9cE)

78 Is my workplace IP still banned for some reason?

Posted by: Kensington at August 31, 2011 08:32 AM (znT2j)

79 I used to think she had the potential to be a good executive; she had my vote.  Lately it seems more and more like she takes things way too personally, and comes across to me as a bit of a prima dona.  I'm moving on - haven't decided on whom my caucus vote is going to, but it won't be her.   She's just making a negative impression on me lately.....  

Posted by: two ns at August 31, 2011 08:32 AM (9RGT+)

80 >>>Ok, I am giving up on Palin. There is just too much drama with everything she does Maybe it's by design but I really don't care anymore. Not to pile on but this is one of the main reasons I got off the Palin train a long time ago. It stopped being about questions about her intellect and started being about questions about her temperament. There's always a problem, there's always a swirl of drama. There are always outside actors to be blamed for "lying." Honestly, in this case, I think there might have actually have been some lying by the Tea Party organizers, or at least some real resistance to her quashing the CO'D appearance. But there is a pattern here. Further, Palin could have laid down the law -- I speak, or she speaks, but not both; choose. Did she communicate this to them unambiguously? I don't know. It seems like they failed to get the message that CO'D would NOT be a warm-up act for Palin.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 08:32 AM (nj1bB)

81 Palin is starting to wear kind of thin with me.  If she enters the race now, she's handing Mittens the GOP nomination by splitting the Tea Party vote.  If you liked 2008, you'll love 2012 as the Mittster reaches across the aisle and tries to fine tune ObamaCare.

Palin should do the honorable thing by endorsing Rick Perry and then she should campaign like hell for him.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 31, 2011 08:32 AM (QKKT0)

82 A big part of Palin's appeal is her unorthodoxy. Palin dis's tea party group: who woulda thunk of that? I enjoy the theatre.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at August 31, 2011 08:32 AM (bZ8J6)

83 51 The problem with O'Donnell isn't O'Donnell.  It's that we didn't have someone better available.  Someone who is both passable to conservatives and electable in DE.  Perhaps that isn't even possible, but I think it is and the reason that election was so sore is because it's frustrating not to be able to find such a person.

The problem is that in the runup to the primary, Castle didn't even give conservatives a reach-around.  He made all sorts of really unnecessary liberal votes.  He came off as spiteful toward the right and that's why so many DE primary voters relished voting him out.  Self-defeating?  Almost surely, but there it is.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 31, 2011 08:32 AM (T0NGe)

84 OT: But Obama asked congress for time to make a joint address at 8 pm next wednesday. The exact same time and day as the republican debate.

Posted by: robtr at August 31, 2011 08:32 AM (MtwBb)

85 Palin canceled her bus tour during the tour, she cancelled her trip to the Sudan, Last February she cancelled several speeches after the Giffords shooting.  The McCain campaign was irritated because she cancelled several speeches on the west Coast in September of 08 with only days notice. In Aug pf 09 she cancelled a speech at the last munute to the Alaska Family Council.  There's many more.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at August 31, 2011 01:30 PM (gcxdG)

But she's "undefeated".

Posted by: yinzer at August 31, 2011 08:32 AM (/Mla1)

86 It's not!  It's not!  I can comment again!  From work!

Thanks, Ace!

Posted by: Kensington at August 31, 2011 08:33 AM (znT2j)

87 same petty palin crap.  She didn't want to share the spot light with Christine "I'm not a witch" O'Donnell and she pulled out.  But not before she made them uninvite Christine.  So now they have no rally and no speaker. 

this feels like a seventh grade party given by an intermediate kid who invites the most popular kid and one of the nerds and then ends up with no one at her party.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 08:33 AM (k1rwm)

88 My husband's aunt has been a hardcore Palin lover.  When Sarah ran with McCain, the aunt cut McCain's name off her sticker and sported "Palin" for a couple of years. 

About three months ago she scraped off the Palin sticker and now sports "Is it 2012 yet?" on her SUV.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 08:33 AM (UOM48)

89
Go women's basketball!

Vassar, yay!

Go transexuals who identify as men but still want to play on the women's teams!

/cartwheel

Posted by: lesbokat at August 31, 2011 08:34 AM (G/zuv)

90 Palin was giving a little tough love to the organizer... Cancel COD, or I'm out.

Sounds like something ace could get behind.

I wouldn't speak at an event with COD.

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 08:34 AM (OhYCU)

91 Latest from the Des Moines Register is that there were three issues Team Palin wanted resolved - the first two had to do with event logistics : a firm schedule and backstage security.  No. 3 was a "can I get back to you" item that is/was (with somewhere around 99% probability) a firm disinvite message to COD.

LINK

Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2011 08:35 AM (HjPtV)

92 Palin is NOT running, and never has been. She is enjoying the hell out of toying with the media and other critics though. Good for her. After what she's endured, she can do what the hell she wants as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 08:35 AM (Xm1aB)

93 Hey Ace there any chance we're gonna get a thread on SCoaMF's little diva episode of his own trying to bump coverage of the GOP debate by "needing a joint session of Congres to harangue you on jobs?"

I'd like your analysis of his misuse of Joint sessions....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 08:36 AM (AEIYh)

94 It's just a thing.

Besides, at this point, I think I might give someone a heart attack if I left out the asterisk.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 01:30 PM (8y9MW)



And there ya go.

Nothing wrong with that and thanks for the clarification.

I swear all the time, so it's a habit at this point.

Posted by: Sponge at August 31, 2011 08:36 AM (UK9cE)

95 "Accusations of bad faith and malice quickly issue" because malice and bad faith are the only plausible explanations for anyone considering this—which is what, exactly?—"news."

Half the story you link has already been correctioned away. The rest is: "A 'person' we won't name said some shit we won't quote, and so, uh... But you know how dat bitch be! I mean, you an' me, we know. We know a bitch. KNUCKLES."

I'm not a troll, I'm just informing you of things you don't want to hear.

If you're not trolling, you're crazy.

And I mean that as a (formerly) professional diagnosis.

Of "crazy."

Posted by: oblig. at August 31, 2011 08:36 AM (xvZW9)

96 84 OT: But Obama asked congress for time to make a joint address at 8 pm next wednesday. The exact same time and day as the republican debate.

Posted by: robtr at August 31, 2011 01:32 PM (MtwBb)

Brian Williams and NBC will not get stuck having to televise the republican debate while a joint session of congress being addressed by the president is covered by everyone else.  Rest assured the republican debate will be cancelled.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 08:36 AM (k1rwm)

97 OT: Obama giving jobs speech to joint session of Congress

Exit question: Hasn't Obama had enough joints?

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 08:36 AM (OhYCU)

98 I've seen other "insider sources" quotes around the web today that say Palin intends to announce she is NOT running and will instead endorse Perry.

Take that for what you will.

Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 31, 2011 08:37 AM (HBBaQ)

99 Republican members of Congress should tel lObama they are busy and he needs to pick another day.. fuckwad.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 31, 2011 08:37 AM (f9c2L)

100 *cough*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 08:37 AM (UOM48)

101 My interest could possible be piqued again by something like, say; Cat Fight at the OK Corral. 

Prolly won't happen.  Just guessing.  Too bad though.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 31, 2011 08:38 AM (jx2j9)

102 The only person capable of being this petty is already in the WH.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 08:38 AM (k1rwm)

103 Palin doesn't want to be on stage with O'Donnell, in case people start to make a connection.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 31, 2011 08:38 AM (0N5pL)

104 There is a reason Palin objected to CO'D, AllenG. That reason is apparently not evident to you, but it's evident to most.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 01:24 PM (nj1bB)


Is it because CO'D doesn't groom "down there"?

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 31, 2011 08:38 AM (eKuOw)

105 @99 I agree. He's been on vacation for a good long while. He can wait another day or two to talk to congress.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 08:38 AM (Xm1aB)

106 Whoever said "pee or get off the bidet" in a previous thread, wins this one.

Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at August 31, 2011 08:38 AM (nRTou)

107 Wel F&%# me. I wish I had known this. I'll watch my F(*&#@) mouth. Posted by: JackStraw at August 31, 2011 01:30 PM

F^@#in'-A right!

But Osama Obama still is one, even if we have to euphemize.

A stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure, that is.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 31, 2011 08:38 AM (YjjrR)

108 >>After what she's endured, she can do what the hell she wants as far as I'm concerned. Endured? I seem to remember her giving as good as she got and making millions off of it. How is that when any politician but Palin gets hammered its part of the process but when it happens to Palin its a crime?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 31, 2011 08:39 AM (TMB3S)

109
Things That Create Jobs & Stimulate the Economy
Food Stamps
Speeches
Unemployment benefits
Obamacare
Tax hikes
Speeches

Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 08:39 AM (G/zuv)

110 96 City Gal,

um "no'....

1) the debate will happen

2) it will get more viewers per capita than episode 97 of Bambi Blames Bush

3) boner is liable to schedule a joint session on the sixth and say "you said you'd have your plan on the 5th champ

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 08:39 AM (AEIYh)

111 Just like a woman.. keep you waiting.. I am really growing to dislike her more and more with each stunt she pulls for attention.

Hey! Sarah! - Get the fuck out of the spotlight or jump in.. one or the other!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 31, 2011 08:39 AM (f9c2L)

112 Not to pile on but this is one of the main reasons I got off the Palin train a long time ago. It stopped being about questions about her intellect and started being about questions about her temperament.

That being said, I'm pretty sure that women of power are required to be a bitch to get where they are.

CO'D decided to play the nice girl/innocent "I'm you" role and they ate her lunch.  Maybe she is that way, but that's why she'll never survive in politics.  I'm sure Palin is a bitch, but I'm sure she's no Michelle Antoinette or Sir Edmond Hillary.....

Posted by: Sponge at August 31, 2011 08:39 AM (UK9cE)

113 This is only a story if you're fascinated with all things Palin.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 31, 2011 08:39 AM (1fB+3)

114 Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 01:34 PM (OhYCU)

The point is the pattern.  I alluded to it in an earlier comment.

Think about this.  Let's say there's a guy who, it seems, has a pattern of being late to work.  Always with a reasonable explanation: his car wouldn't start, he got stuck in bad traffic, his alarm didn't go off, he got stuck in bad traffic again, etc., etc. 

At some point, doesn't that become a pattern of unreliability?  I was always taught that it was.  Now let's go one further: at some point, the employer has to lay down the law: make it in on time, or find new employment.  The next day, the guy has a wreck on the way into work: is the employer fully unjustified in firing him anyway?  It may suck for perpetually-late-guy, but the employer doesn't really have much choice, either: he's got to cut that deadweight so he can get in someone who will be on time reliably.

Now, I don't know if Palin has a "pattern" for cancelling appearances or not (I don't pay that much attention to her comings and goings, truth be told).  If that perception exists, regardless of the reality, it behooves her to show up to engagements even when they're inconvenient/embarrassing.  That way, she can start dispelling (eventually) that perception by saying, "I had a commitment, I met it."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 08:39 AM (8y9MW)

115

Over the past three years, I've heard of more things about the Tea Party Express that piss me off than I have heard about Palin that does the same.

Just sayin. Right now, I am liking Perry, and the more I hear, the better he gets.

 

Posted by: West at August 31, 2011 08:40 AM (1Rgee)

116

Is it because CO'D doesn't groom "down there"?

Posted by: MrCaniac

 

Things are rather wild and woolly in 'lower Delaware'. We like to think of it as 'beach grass'.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 31, 2011 08:40 AM (6rX0K)

117 105 dave,

exactly.....

Barry doesn't get that the American people have no goodwill left for his games....he wants to get into a media catfight "Sir Golfsalot" will become a mainstream meme with or without the newsies help

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 08:40 AM (AEIYh)

118 @108 Really? How many politicians have had their church burned down? Had stalkers arrested? Had reporters move in next door? Had college students hacking their email? I'm just getting started.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 08:40 AM (Xm1aB)

119 97 OT: Obama giving jobs speech to joint session of Congress

Exit question: Hasn't Obama had enough joints?

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 01:36 PM (OhYCU)


Define enough.

Posted by: Kal Penn and Reggie Love at August 31, 2011 08:40 AM (eKuOw)

120
We've got the Sarah in,
We've got the Sarah out.
We've got the Sarah in,
And all we do is shout.
We do the RINO-pokey
And we smack each other around.
That's what it's all about!

Posted by: No Whining at August 31, 2011 08:41 AM (14/Yy)

121 O/T  When is Barry going to visit all the people who have lost their homes and businesses in the NE? 

Remember all the flack Boosh caught over his "lack of concern" about the victims of Katrina? 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 08:41 AM (UOM48)

122 Let's say there's a guy who, it seems, has a pattern of being late to work.  Always with a reasonable explanation: his car wouldn't start, he got stuck in bad traffic, his alarm didn't go off, he got stuck in bad traffic again, etc., etc.

Leave ace alone. 

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 08:41 AM (OhYCU)

123 AHOY!

Posted by: PALINISTO! at August 31, 2011 08:42 AM (nfVm6)

124 Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 01:37 PM (UOM4

Need some water, Jane?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 08:42 AM (8y9MW)

125 84 OT: But Obama asked congress for time to make a joint address at 8 pm next wednesday. The exact same time and day as the republican debate.

Posted by: robtr at August 31, 2011 01:32 PM (MtwBb)

I think the GOP should all be watching the debate on an iPad with a headphone in their ear.

What a little child this guy is.

We're used to the fact that he doesn't care if he inconveniences anyone, but it's clear he just loves doing it.

Re: the debate. I do love that NBC is getting dicked around.  I will give $100 to any campaign -- even Ron Paul -- if the candidate says, "F*ck you, Brian Williams".

It's waiting, Ron.  All for you.  $100.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 31, 2011 08:42 AM (T0NGe)

126 Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 31, 2011 01:37 PM (HBBaQ)

and i read that she will eventually be perry's running mate but that she will announce in a flooded Vermont town in solidarity with little forgotten Vermont.

I'll tell you, a lot of folks aren't happy with any of the republicans.  the only positivist is that they are more angry with the current occupant of the WH.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 08:42 AM (k1rwm)

127 I'd be a lot more sympathetic to Palin not wanted to be seen next to COD if she didn't endorse her in the last election and give us Senator Chris Coons.

Posted by: Paul at August 31, 2011 08:43 AM (DsHk0)

128
When is Barry going to visit all the people who have lost their homes and businesses in the NE? 

/shake shake shake

Eat waffles.

Posted by: Obama 8-Ball at August 31, 2011 08:43 AM (G/zuv)

129 128 Obama 8-ball,

don't you mean /snort snort snort....

Barry has a history with 8 balls

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 08:44 AM (AEIYh)

130 *cough*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 01:37 PM (UOM4


Shhh.  Maybe it will go away.

Posted by: Curiously refreshing at August 31, 2011 08:44 AM (QKKT0)

131 I'll tell you, a lot of folks aren't happy with any of the republicans.  the only positivist is that they are more angry with the current occupant of the WH.

I guess those "folks" would be your "friends" in NYC.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 08:44 AM (UOM48)

132 Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 01:41 PM (OhYCU)

Ace can't be late.  He's the boss.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 08:44 AM (8y9MW)

133 I'd be a lot more sympathetic to Palin not wanted to be seen next to COD if she didn't endorse her in the last election and give us Senator Chris Coons.

Posted by: Paul

Try reading comment #83.  Then think about it, and see if your comment holds up.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 31, 2011 08:44 AM (6rX0K)

134 Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 01:40 PM (Xm1aB)

Yeah, that's the thing.  As far as sh*t goes, Palin gets more than she gives.  Much more.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 31, 2011 08:45 AM (T0NGe)

135
don't you mean /snort snort snort....

/shake shake shake

You are a racist.

Posted by: Obama 8-Ball at August 31, 2011 08:45 AM (G/zuv)

136 130 jane D'oh,

yeah NYC really hearts huntsman....

that way thhey can vote for bambi with a clear consicience

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 08:45 AM (AEIYh)

137

So, Christine O'Donnel isn't going to be in Nailin' Palin III

 

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2011 08:45 AM (OpUcY)

138

The onlly question I have is... "Why is Palin Dumb"??????

Posted by: Whoopie Goldberg at August 31, 2011 08:45 AM (48wze)

139 Ace,

I agree.  Tea Party groups seem to think they can brute-force their way through media bias.  You do have the play the game, occasionally.  "The Game" in this case is staying the hell away from Christine O'Donnell.

Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at August 31, 2011 08:45 AM (nRTou)

140 23

Thread winner, and considering this might hit 700 comments, that's something

Posted by: The Q at August 31, 2011 08:45 AM (CJIam)

141 Why would anybody want to appear with COD?  Seriously.

Posted by: Fritz at August 31, 2011 08:45 AM (/ZZCn)

142 135 Obama 8-ball,

that goes without saying....

do you get equal time with Barry or does TotUS get dibs...?

*grin

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 08:46 AM (AEIYh)

143 "The problem is that in the runup to the primary, Castle didn't even give conservatives a reach-around. "

Amishdude, I agree.  That's actually what I'm saying.  We had a choice between someone who wasn't passable on core issues vs someone who was unelectable.

I opted for the RINO, because a 50% friend is better than establishing an incumbent 100% enemy.  A lot of the things said about Castle weren't true, but it's totally true he's not with us on hard fights, where the full margin of the Senate matters.  He wasn't really acceptable, but he's also the only R who was winning statewide elections in DE.  I refuse to believe Castle and O'Donnell are even close to the best the GOP could produce for delaware.  It should have been a wake up call for searching for better candidates years in advance.

Everyone major who got involved with DE, from Palin to Levin to the major moderates who opted for Castle (Rove, for example) should have spent the next year finding someone they could all work with.  Otherwise, they created a wedge issue and didn't resolve it. 

What I've seen since then is that on fights like balancing the budget, you really are either with us or you're against us.  Many of these weaker Senators find balancing the budget to be not a priority, or even not a good idea, and my willingness to tolerate a RINO is much lower now.

But the essential problem is unchanged.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 08:46 AM (fF625)

144

Brian Williams and NBC will not get stuck having to televise the republican debate while a joint session of congress being addressed by the president is covered by everyone else.  Rest assured the republican debate will be cancelled.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 01:36 PM (k1rwm)


If the GOP debate is scheduled for 8pm, and Bambi's speech is scheduled for 8pm, NBC can still air both. Bambi never starts on time and his recent track record says that the earliest his speech will start will be 9:45pm.

Posted by: MrCaniac at August 31, 2011 08:46 AM (eKuOw)

145 Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 01:42 PM (k1rwm)

We all know you're a 400 pound male shut-in, why do you feel the need to tell us that you're adopting a female persona now?

Why so curious?

Posted by: AmishDude at August 31, 2011 08:46 AM (T0NGe)

146 I would just like to be up front about this and say that I am not a witch or a warlock and I like while people whether they are wet or not.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 31, 2011 08:47 AM (Hx5uv)

147 Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 01:39 PM (AEIYh)

It can happen, but they aren't going to cover it, they are going to cover the speech.  A historic speech made by the president of the US to a joint session of congress.  The republican debate loses.  Sorry but that's the way it's going to go down.

Maybe even the candidates will realize this and announce that they are patriots and the American people should watch the address and they would be happy to re arrange their schedules to accommodate the rescheduled debate.  ron Paul and Michelle Bachman and mitttens will announce this concurrently.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 08:47 AM (k1rwm)

148

23

Thread winner, and considering this might hit 700 comments, that's something

 

I resemble that remark!

Posted by: Don Lemon at August 31, 2011 08:48 AM (OpUcY)

149

The teasing and testing and probing and whatnot is getting old and alienating people who otherwise wish her well.

^^^^^^^^^

 

Posted by: eleven at August 31, 2011 08:48 AM (7DB+a)

150 Obama does not need to visit those effected by Irene in Vermont. They will vote for him because they are idiots and will fuck themselves over to prove to you and me they are not racist.

Posted by: Ferd Vandergiving at August 31, 2011 08:48 AM (48wze)

151 President clusterfucks lackey Carney has given his okay for the Republicans to reschedule their debate. I'm not shitting you it is what he said. There's going to be more debates is his rationale and this speech is going to be "historic." Or should I say hysteric?

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at August 31, 2011 08:49 AM (OVCfn)

152 NEWS FLASH: Palin will appear at event.

Ace can get back to nutting on Christie pics now.


Posted by: Barbarian at August 31, 2011 08:49 AM (EL+OC)

153 She probably just didn't want to be stuck with the stigma of having given a speech in Indianola.  Can you imagine the ridicule?

Indianola?  Where's that?!  She actually gave a speech in Indianola?!

Between snorts, Ed Shultz would mumble insults at her.  It would be a bloodbath.

It would be devastating.  She doesn't need to give the MFM any more ammunition.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 31, 2011 08:49 AM (jx2j9)

154 This is Ace's policy on swear words.

http://youtu.be/r8C2TSF9rsw

Posted by: The Q at August 31, 2011 08:49 AM (CJIam)

155 At least Sarah called in when she decided to not show up for her job as governor.

Posted by: Mike Rotch at August 31, 2011 08:49 AM (H4EEs)

156

 Why would anybody want to appear with COD? 

 

I'd burn the fur off of that.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2011 08:50 AM (OpUcY)

157 It's not every day that the Obama makes a speech proposing the same old failed pseudo-solutions from the past.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 31, 2011 08:50 AM (Hx5uv)

158 OT: But Obama asked congress for time to make a joint address at 8 pm next wednesday. The exact same time and day as the republican debate. Posted by: robtr at August 31, 2011 01:32 PM (MtwBb)

Damn shame we have an almost 100% balls-free Congress. Boner and Mush McConnell should tell Osama Obama (politely, of course) that they have other business to attend to that night, and would he please come back a day or two later....

But that would be "racist." And, as Ed "Poppin' Fresh" Morrissey loves to say, the optics would be terrible.

Even if it would be the absolute right thing to do.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 31, 2011 08:50 AM (YjjrR)

159 Ace, I put a curse on you, thicker....thicker.

Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at August 31, 2011 08:50 AM (1fB+3)

160 On Wisconsin!

Posted by: Ghillebert, the Seigneur de l'Enfer at August 31, 2011 08:50 AM (hdubz)

161 56 Beefy, I'm not sticking up for CO'D. I'm wondering why this is so glitchy.

And there is a pattern of glitches in her appearances.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 01:26 PM (nj1bB)


I'm thinking the glitches are in the event organization not the participants. This version of the "Tea Party" doesn't seem to have it together. And just as an aside... all these groups supposedly talking for the teapartiers really need to get their shi..stuff together. They are making the brand look bad.

Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at August 31, 2011 08:50 AM (UrPTC)

162 I have updated again. What was the Tea Party of America thinking?

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 08:50 AM (nj1bB)

163

Indianola?  Where's that?!  She actually gave a speech in Indianola?!

 

Fuck You.

Posted by: B.B. King at August 31, 2011 08:51 AM (OpUcY)

164 Sounds like another unreliable "source" is the reason for all of the continued bagging on Sarah. Thanks once again media.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 08:51 AM (Xm1aB)

165 Palin has lousy staff.  That's on her.

Also, if she wants to control the event, she should have her own group put it on.   She's supposed to be (in part) serving the Tea Party, not the other way around. 

But it's clear that the organizers of this event are amateurish. You do not invite someone publicly, then uninvite them publicly... unless they've done something egregious, which O'Donnell hadn't.  

Posted by: Y-not at August 31, 2011 08:51 AM (5H6zj)

166 Posted by: WalrusRex at August 31, 2011 01:50 PM (Hx5uv)

You're right.  Some days he makes a speech blaming previous Presidents, Congress, and Natural Disasters for the fact that Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

And other days he just plays golf.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 08:51 AM (8y9MW)

167 Amishdude, I agree.  That's actually what I'm saying.  We had a choice between someone who wasn't passable on core issues vs someone who was unelectable.

It wasn't even that.  DE Republicans knew what Castle was, but even Snarlin' Arlen, before he had the ill-fated party switch, used to give PA Republicans the reach-around every 6 years.  We knew it was coming and we knew that if he was elected that the last 2 years of that term would be OK.  He'd do a couple of good things and would be a judicious Judas.

Castle acted as if conservatives were something nasty he found on the bottom of his shoe.  I think a lot of people knew Castle would be a RINO squish but were OK with it if he'd be with us on big things, but he had the air of somebody who was going to take office, call himself an R and then use that to show that every sh*t sandwich was a bipartisan one.

I'm still of the camp that "it doesn't matter who you vote for, it matters who takes office" but I have no sympathy for Castle, he did it to himself and he could have easily reached out to conservatives without alienating independents.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 31, 2011 08:52 AM (T0NGe)

168

sigh...

Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 08:52 AM (wuv1c)

169 @164
Palin's top communications person, Mansour, is a perpetual leaker.  I wouldn't leap to the assumption that the unreliable source is unreliable.  Frankly, I assumed it was coming from Palin's camp.

Posted by: Y-not at August 31, 2011 08:52 AM (5H6zj)

170 147 City gal,

you are aware that contrary to popular belief it is not "historic" for the President to demand joint Sessions just to shoot the shit right?

so when you say "historic" you are forgetting that as always Juggsy will give the same speech in the same hateful way demanding that the body of government that i most answerable to the people "shut the fuck up join with me in this TOTALLY bi-partisan scam to aid my pals and accept I WON!"

like health care....

TotUS getting fired up for a blame game is not 'historic" like say declarations of war....

or a visiting foreign dignitary....

what part of "he said he'd deliver it on the 5th" do you not get?

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 08:53 AM (AEIYh)

Posted by: Robben Ford at August 31, 2011 08:53 AM (OpUcY)

172 The only reason COD is being invited anywhere is because she's on a book tour.

Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 08:53 AM (wuv1c)

173 Palin should hold off her announcement until November 1st, 2012

Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 08:54 AM (wuv1c)

174 130 I'll tell you, a lot of folks aren't happy with any of the republicans.  the only positivist is that they are more angry with the current occupant of the WH.

Whoa, whoa whoa there. Folks® is a registered trademark of Bill O'Reilly Inc. Please cease and desist from its use.

Posted by: Bill O'Reilly Inc Legal Office at August 31, 2011 08:54 AM (eKuOw)

175 I love the "I'm really starting to dislike her" crap from people who really started to dislike her years ago.  It keeps me amused.

Posted by: Kerry at August 31, 2011 08:54 AM (a/VXa)

176 @169 Well, the source said she wasn't coming, and then the source "hedged" and said she might according to the article. Name the source so we can determine credibility. Otherwise, this is another made-up Palin "controversy."

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 08:54 AM (Xm1aB)

177 Barky just made the "unprecedented!" move of scheduling a major policy speech coincidentally during his opponents' next debate, and ace is fretting over a Palin/CO'D story? Priorities, man!

Posted by: mugiwara at August 31, 2011 08:55 AM (D5hxK)

178 >>>Ace, I put a curse on you, thicker....thicker. It's working. Damn you, witch.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 08:55 AM (nj1bB)

179 177 Barky just made the "unprecedented!" move of scheduling a major policy speech coincidentally during his opponents' next debate, and ace is fretting over a Palin/CO'D story? Priorities, man!

Posted by: mugiwara at August 31, 2011 01:55 PM (D5hxK)

this

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 08:56 AM (UOM48)

180 Levin said on his show that no way Palin would announce September 3 because that is the day the movie is hitting PPV. I don't know that this is true but there it is

Posted by: blaster at August 31, 2011 08:56 AM (Fw2Gg)

181 Maybe Palin will endorse O'Donnell for president there, and they were just hashing out the details.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 31, 2011 08:56 AM (0N5pL)

182 Yeah, there needs to be an all-out pushback against Obama speaking during the debate. Repubs control the House. Tell the idiot to pick another day.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 08:57 AM (Xm1aB)

183 Anyone need murderin'?

Posted by: Rick Perry, bitches! at August 31, 2011 08:57 AM (UOM48)

184 Hey, Barky, let's hear you talk about Solyndra in your big jobs address. $500 million, some pretty buildings, zero jobs.

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2011 08:57 AM (FcR7P)

185 This is all part of running an unconventional campaign, you establishment RINO hacks. McCain, Dole, and Bush I didn't cancel their appearances a couple of days before they were supposed to occur, and look where that got us. She's living rent-free in all your heads.

CUDA CUDA CUDA!

Posted by: The Palinista at August 31, 2011 08:57 AM (TUax9)

186

>>I love the "I'm really starting to dislike her" crap from people who really started to dislike her years ago. It keeps me amused.

Meh. I wouldn't say I dislike her, but I've come to the realization over the past few months that I don't want her to be our candidate.

Add to that the fact that she's intentionally blue balling everyone about her potnential candidacy, well it's not making me into a bigger fan.

 

Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 08:57 AM (wuv1c)

187 I guess this would have to be called sitting on principle.  Or a big honking Indianola gherkin.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 31, 2011 08:57 AM (jx2j9)

188

Its my birthday (really) and Ace gives me a Sarah Palin/COD thread?

Uh, yea, thanks Ace. But I really, really wanted one of your epic 10,000 word masterpieces on............The Greatness........That Is.............Zach Greinke.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 31, 2011 08:58 AM (OWjjx)

189

that is the day the movie is hitting PPV

 

Sweet!  I've been waiting years for the hot Girl on Girl action.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2011 08:58 AM (OpUcY)

190
I seem to remember her giving as good as she got

Oh come on, JackStraw. She was f*cking wilded. She didn't rape right back.

Posted by: arhooley at August 31, 2011 08:58 AM (3n2lK)

191 Posted by: mugiwara at August 31, 2011 01:55 PM (D5hxK)

In fairness, until we have a GOP response to that insult, there isn't much to say about it.  "News Flash: Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure, and is a narcissist" isn't really big news.

News Flash: GOP Caves to SCOAMFOTUS on Debate- will Reschedule
or
News Flash: Congress says STFU to SCOAMFOTUS- Will not convene to hear his speech on Sept 7

Those would be newsworthy.

Yes- I realize that it's sad that I don't think a sitting President knowingly choosing a date when his political rivals are having a primary debate is big news.  Chalk up another "unprecedented" for the Precedent.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 08:58 AM (8y9MW)

192 Happy birfday, Mallamutt! 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 08:59 AM (UOM48)

193 @188 Greinke can suck it. I hope he's pitching tonite so the the Cards can knock him out in the 3rd. Oh, and Happy Birthday.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 08:59 AM (Xm1aB)

194

>>>>This is all part of running an unconventional campaign, you establishment RINO hacks. McCain, Dole, and Bush I didn't cancel their appearances a couple of days before they were supposed to occur, and look where that got us. She's living rent-free in all your heads.CUDA CUDA CUDA!

Well given the trending nature of the base of republican party as polls indicate, she may need to find a way to win the nomination without getting anywhere near the majority of votes.

Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 08:59 AM (wuv1c)

195 Jay Carney, on the date and time of Obama's address:

"It is coincidental."

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 31, 2011 08:59 AM (o2lIv)

196 You know, I think I've finally had enough of this flake and her whole diva act.  This Perry guy, now.  He looks like a President!  He's the kind of guy who makes a stout patriot like me fall to their knees and give thanks.  And other things that guys do on their knees, too.

Posted by: Guy Who Either Never Supported Her In The First Place Really at August 31, 2011 09:00 AM (znT2j)

197 Thank you for your support, Dustin #143.

Posted by: charlie crist at August 31, 2011 09:00 AM (Ou4YC)

198 keep pissin' them off sarah!!!!!!

Posted by: thomas dolby at August 31, 2011 09:00 AM (IpiZb)

199 brb, huntin' for my balls....

Posted by: Boehner/Boner at August 31, 2011 09:00 AM (UOM48)

200 186 Add to that the fact that she's intentionally blue balling everyone about her potential candidacy

It's like we're all still in high school.

Posted by: The Q at August 31, 2011 09:00 AM (CJIam)

201 Nah, you just hate women who can hit free throws and who talk like the understudies in Fargo.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at August 31, 2011 09:00 AM (qwK3S)

202 Not a big Palin fan, but it sounds like Amateur Hour at the Tea Party Express...

Posted by: Ellen at August 31, 2011 09:01 AM (B1FXc)

203 "I'm still of the camp that "it doesn't matter who you vote for, it matters who takes office" but I have no sympathy for Castle, he did it to himself and he could have easily reached out to conservatives without alienating independents.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 31, 2011 01:52 PM (T0NGe"


In hindsight, this is correct.  Castle could have easily won the election had he tried to be more appealing to .... I don't want to call it his base because it isn't, but you know what I mean since you just said it.

Arlen Specter is the devil.  Castle isn't nearly that bad, but he was a long, long time politician and should have figured out that conservatives are very frustrated with government and deserve more respect from Republicans.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 09:01 AM (fF625)

204 I've also decided to schedule historic addresses on Sept. 12th, Sept. 22nd, and Oct. 18th.

Posted by: Barry O'Bama at August 31, 2011 09:02 AM (CJIam)

205 195 Jay Carney, on the date and time of Obama's address:

"It is coincidental."


Carney gives NBC "permission" to re-schedule the debate? 

*head exploding in rage*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 31, 2011 09:02 AM (UOM48)

206 what you are failing to see is that the tea party people found out they could get Christine on her book tour and figured since Palin endorsed Christine that Palin would be so happy to have Christine as part of the event.  It's a very normal logical conclusion.  Wasn't this the speech where they expected so many people they had to change the venue?   Maybe they wanted to make sure the venue was indeed packed and they figured pulling in the Christine fans would really make it a huge event. 

I guess they didn't count on Palin being as petulant as BO and not wanting to share the glory with anyone else. 

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 09:02 AM (k1rwm)

207

She shoots, she misses...

Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

Posted by: Skylined Caribou at August 31, 2011 09:03 AM (OpUcY)

208
Thanks for the update, ace. One can't always fault Sarah for the "drama" that people get into over her.

Posted by: arhooley at August 31, 2011 09:03 AM (3n2lK)

209


I hope he's pitching tonite so the the Cards can knock him out in the 3rd.

Its David Wolf tonight.

Cards are 9 and1/2 back on August 31. Not gonna happen.

But thanks for the birthday wishes.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 31, 2011 09:03 AM (OWjjx)

210 Good...sorry, no good on this one.

Bad...amateur hour all around.  Palin's foes get more ammo, local Tea Party look like fools, Christine O'Donnell gets more people invoking her name undeservedly.

Though honestly, pulling out for elsewhere...I disagree what she's up to, but she is up to something--and this did seem to toss a wrench in the gears, but it smells like she had a 'Plan B' set.

September 3rd, huh?  Perhaps I should follow the news a bit more this Saturday.  I have a sneaking suspicion things are about to get much more interesting.  Whether in a good or bad way, I'm not quite sure yet...

Posted by: DarkLord sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada!
at August 31, 2011 09:03 AM (GBXon)

211 I'm now a Foremer Palin backer. I still love her, but I'm kinda tired of the shiznit. I don't even care if she runs now cuz I'm all in for Perry. Sorry Sarah, your striptease took waaaay too long.

Posted by: Schwalbe : The at August 31, 2011 09:03 AM (UU0OF)

212

I'd burn the fur off of that.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2011 01:50 PM (OpUcY)


That may take a couple of days, IYKWIMAITYD.

Also, the State of Delaware has an open burning ban in effect for the next days.

Posted by: Office of Delaware Scamper Examiners at August 31, 2011 09:04 AM (eKuOw)

213 So what does Palin bring to the table that Perry doesn't?  Besides teh boobies

Posted by: Red Shirt at August 31, 2011 09:04 AM (FIDMq)

214 @209 I realized long ago that the Cards aren't gonna do it this season. I just want them to beat the crap out of the Brewers and cause that idot Nyger to break out into a 3rd or 4th personality.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 09:05 AM (Xm1aB)

215 205 Jane D'oh,

Boner should give barry permission to fire up TotUS on the 6th....

Posted by: sven10077 at August 31, 2011 09:05 AM (AEIYh)

216 Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life

Happy Birthday fellow Virgo... and RINO!

Posted by: Y-not at August 31, 2011 09:05 AM (5H6zj)

217 Wow, Obama's trying to preempt the GOP debate?

Why do those assholes even call themselves democratic anymore?

Could Obama have thinner skin?  This is something a junior high student would do.  It's unpatriotic and petty.

Like his super-bus, it's too desperate to work.  He's probably hoping the GOP field will spend a lot of time condemning him during their debate.  What a moron.

Of course, this is one of a million little things setting the stage for turnabout in the next few years.  And frankly if the GOP doesn't play that game a bit, the democrats will not learn their lesson. 

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 09:05 AM (fF625)

218 It's as if ace wants to see Palin and COD in a mud wrestling match

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 09:06 AM (OhYCU)

219 Someone mentioned on the other thread that the republican primaries could be diluted by dems.  I asked about that and a couple of people "since there is no democratic primary, per se"....are planning on registering republican to vote against perry who they say is "dangerously religious".

Not kidding that is what is being said.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 09:06 AM (k1rwm)

220
So what does Palin bring to the table that Perry doesn't?  Besides teh boobies

Posted by: Red Shirt at August 31, 2011 02:04 PM

A lifelong commitment to conservative values and clarity of principles, off the top of my head.

Posted by: arhooley at August 31, 2011 09:06 AM (3n2lK)

221 So what does Palin bring to the table that Perry doesn't?  Besides teh boobies

You've heard of weighting factors, right?

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 31, 2011 09:06 AM (OhYCU)

222  211. a striptease taking  WAY too long?? Dude You are getting your moneys worth!

Posted by: blogforce one at August 31, 2011 09:07 AM (lICB9)

223 @218 Well who doesn't?

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 09:07 AM (Xm1aB)

224 @214

Being an Astros fan, I realized in mid April that we weren't gonna do it this year.

Posted by: Oily Taints at August 31, 2011 09:08 AM (TUax9)

225 COD isn't exactly toxic, especially to the Tea Party, so I can't see any real harm, there. Moreover, you've got to have somebody to "warm up the crowd" before Palin speaks, so they had to have somebody. Name someone else who would be willing to, right now. "Warm up the crowd" doesn't mean "have this loser spray Crazy Bitch all over them." Second of all, there's always this type of chickenshit drama surrounding Palin. I don't care who's responsible, I'm just tired of it. And I hate women, so I know what I'm talking about: you just can't have bitches in high positions like this. Let COD and Palin do regular girl-stuff like crying and shopping.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 31, 2011 09:08 AM (nsjpb)

226 Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 02:05 PM (fF625)

the positive is that BO will have revealed his plan, in writing and the republicans can have at it.  Although, since brian williams is the moderator, he will probably only discuss social issues during the debate anyway since, in his mind, the economy isn't a big issue, they hit a few headwinds and they are working things out according to all the dems.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 09:08 AM (k1rwm)

227 @224 Oilytaints Thanks for Lance Berkman. Guy can play!

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 09:08 AM (Xm1aB)

228 If Palin isn't running, she needs to explain why she wanted so much oxygen taken from candidates most similar to her.  It's difficult to gain support in a crowded field, especially since some conservatives are waiting for someone to show up.

Palin hasn't really been pushing a political agenda.  She's been on a tour, but it's been a while since I noticed a really effective policy expression from her (she's done very well over the past few years, just not much in the  past few months).

I still like Palin.  She's one of the good guys.  I believe she is coordinating with one of the candidates and will endorse them, and at that point perhaps much of her behavior will make strategic sense.  It was hard for any of Perry's adversaries to really get a huge footing with Palin actively on the road.  Now that Perry's in it, I think Palin's appearances have gotten notably less potent.

Perry knew, due to the state's legislative session, he would enter the race later than others, so he needed a stalking horse.  This prevents Bachmann or Cain from getting too large a following and sets up a Romney v Perry fight. 

Of course, I just pulled that out of my ass, but it's how it's worked out and I'm OK with that.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 09:09 AM (fF625)

229 This thread is everything I thought it could be and then some.

Happy Bday, Mutt!

Posted by: lu at August 31, 2011 09:10 AM (pLTLS)

230 Palin should do the honorable thing by endorsing Rick Perry and then she should campaign like hell for him.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 31, 2011 01:32 PM (QKKT0)

This presumes, as so many do, that Palin cares about doing the "honorable" thing more than she arrogantly wants to run for President and make it all about her.

I, for one, do not perceive that she does.

Posted by: Vyceroy at August 31, 2011 09:10 AM (mqy6N)

231 Being an Astros fan...
Posted by: Oily Taints

I can top that. I was an Oilers fan.

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 31, 2011 09:10 AM (h1p5V)

232 223 @218

Well who doesn't?

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 02:07 PM (Xm1aB)


Gross, we don't!!!!

Posted by: Kal Penn, Reggie Love and Barry Soetoro at August 31, 2011 09:10 AM (eKuOw)

233

Being an Astros fan, I realized in mid April that we weren't gonna do it this year.

Being a Cub fan, I realize at the age of 3 we weren't going to ever do it.

And thanks everyone for the birthday wishes.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 31, 2011 09:11 AM (OWjjx)

234 how come all of a sudden ol eric is worrying about anti trust issues.  when the government was involved it was fine for them to ignore anti trust.  Who is going to lose oodles of money if the AT&T merger goes through?

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 09:12 AM (k1rwm)

235 When it comes to post-election behavior of our Conservative women, I say............ More Sharon Angle, less Palin and O'Donnell. {{{{{{ Wields garbage can lid as shield }}}}}}}}

Posted by: Spiker at August 31, 2011 09:12 AM (tcQsM)

236   This is almost as good as the Red Sox-Yankees series this weekend!

Posted by: blogforce one at August 31, 2011 09:14 AM (lICB9)

237 Wow, Obama's trying to preempt the GOP debate?

Why do those assholes even call themselves democratic anymore?

Mostly because it disrupts the schedule templates of all potential candidates.
Then, they can all be accused of what Palin is being accused of -- unorganized.

Which she certainly must be if she coordinated with a Tea Party branch as disorganized as this one appears to be.  We know that because of all the retracted and unretracted reports.  Some of them are true!

ERGO:  This is all Palin's fault.  She started it.  So there.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 31, 2011 09:14 AM (rxez/)

238 Red Sox-Yankees? Who cares?

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 09:14 AM (Xm1aB)

239 Here's the thing that gets me about this whole thing (wherever you stand on Palin): A lot of this "drama"--not just in scheduled appointments, but everywhere--is just fabricated. So, now it appears that she's going to speak after all?Was there ever any truth to this story? Possibly not. But it will all go into the hopper with all the other trumped up BS as part of the perception of Palin. So even though we know that the media's assault on her was extreme, that she was vetted harder than the SCoaMF, that time and again these trumped up stories have turned up, well, trumped up and false--the perception created remains. Not just with Palin, of course. AGW leaps to mind as another instance where we know the media constantly misrepresents things to achieve an end, and is constantly proven to be wrong. Again, it doesn't even matter where you stand on AGW. It's the sum effect of someone constantly yelling something at you. It's not new, of course. I'm always finding out stuff that I believed was true growing up was total BS. Remember when--I think it was Iowahawk, maybe Frank J--did that little bit portraying violence done by media members in the way the media covers violence done by troops? I gotta believe politician/pundit schedules change. All the time. And that there's drama. I also gotta believe nobody gives a rat's ass most of the time. What that means is that when someone does call attention to it, we think it's unusual. Anybody got any stats? I dunno. I think this is nothing, like all the other nothings, but I also think it establishes a completely made-up "pattern".

Posted by: moviegique at August 31, 2011 09:14 AM (kNN2d)

240 Well... I think Palin smacking down ODonnell only helps her in my eyes.. Also, Odonnell sole her donation list to Bachman ( I was getting solicitations). Cant stand Odonnell but it was worth it to see a rino take it in the shorts...

Posted by: Barry O' at August 31, 2011 09:15 AM (UTeJr)

241 I like Palin, but I think she needs to step back for a bit and take stock.  She's becoming too much of a media figure, and I think that's diluting what she's capable of representing and accomplishing. 

2016 isn't that far off.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 31, 2011 09:15 AM (i0App)

242 "the positive is that BO will have revealed his plan, in writing and the republicans can have at it."

Except his plan will be incredibly vague specifically to avoid criticism.  That's been Obama's M.O. for a damn long time.  He'll call for a commission or for hope or for the same crap he called for 100 times already while blasting partisanship.  It's only for low info voters to see Obama is trying to do something.  It's not going to be meant to actually do anything but be a show.

 "Although, since brian williams is the moderator, he will probably only discuss social issues during the debate anyway since, in his mind, the economy isn't a big issue,"

Absolutely.  It's getting old, but I'm sure Perry will be asked about evolution and his religion and all manner of things other than the one thing on everyone's mind.
-----------

"
A lifelong commitment to conservative values and clarity of principles, off the top of my head.

Posted by: arhooley at August 31, 2011 02:06 PM (3n2lK)"


Some have raised the same little nit picks about Palin that we see now about Perry.  It's possible to do this with anybody.  Palin appointed a few moderates.  Actually she governed fairly moderately (but well).  She's not as conservative as Perry on spending, but I don't mean to bash her.

Perry is no pure right winger, I realize.  But things like 'he wrote a letter to Hillary asking her to remember farmers before her healthcare plan was revealed as horrible' is not a big ding.  He's got a record that can actually be described as lifelong, too.  It's unfair to compare him to someone who hasn't had even close to as many decisions and successes.

Palin's one of the good guys, but she didn't run a state like Texas for a decade.  Of course the few with a real record will also be the few who made mistakes here and there.  The only way to totally avoid that is with an empty suit like Obama (we have a couple like that running, though Palin is not an empty suit).

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 09:15 AM (fF625)

243 Just think about it. Obama during his address delivers more of his trademark "if they would just put politics aside for the good of the country like me" bullshit and points out the silly debate going on while he speaks like the adult. I wouldn't put it past the cocksucker.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 09:16 AM (Xm1aB)

244 @227
I'm glad Lance bounced back this year. He didn't do shit for the Yanks the second half of last season after we traded him, and we got our starting 3B and closer in return for him.

Posted by: Oily Taints at August 31, 2011 09:16 AM (TUax9)

245

Red Sox-Yankees?

 

Everyone who isn't a fan of a small market team!

Happy Birfday, Mutt. 

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2011 09:17 AM (OpUcY)

246

I just don't care anymore.  Is there a fast forward button to next year? 

'Cause all I care about is kicking the Precedent out on his ass.  (is ass ok?  or is that too much swearing?  I took out the adjective preceding it...)

Posted by: soulpile is... at August 31, 2011 09:17 AM (Mk/IQ)

247 I'll be at the Brewer - Cards game tonight

Posted by: Ghillebert, the Seigneur de l'Enfer at August 31, 2011 09:20 AM (hdubz)

248 @248 Looks like a nice ballpark, I'd like to visit sometime. Have fun.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 09:21 AM (Xm1aB)

249 I suspect the MSM will be comparing the viewership of Obama's speech to the viewership of the GOP debate.

That way, they can sell to the low info voters that Obama is 5 times more popular than all GOP candidates combined, and convey the message that everyone else is liking Obama, so they should too.  That kind of petty argument is a big part of Obama's appeal.  Big stupid posters with no meaning beyond 'Obama is cool.  Are you cool?  If you are cool you like Obama like all the cool people.'.

Anyway, we have real issues worth debating, and Obama is interfering.  We can expect him to play hardball every step of the way, and should not take this election for granted just because he's such a failure at leadership.  The country is in deep trouble intellectually right now. 

Obama WANTS anger and emotion to be the argument against him.  He's got a better shot with that than with the more rational discussion of his plans vs our plans.  He hopes to gin up tons of fear and agitation.  He will constantly be acting like a punk.  Expect to see more of his middle finger.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 09:22 AM (fF625)

250 But is their breath baited with nightcrawlers or rotten shrimp pieces?


That's bated breath, as in "abated" or held back or held.

Posted by: Sphynx at August 31, 2011 09:22 AM (fEmj2)

251 The group has spent about $100,000 on the event for Palin and are thus waiting "with baited breath" for an answer. An official press release will come out after Palin people give Crow final word.

Unless you're a penguin or just ate sushi, you should be waiting with bated breath, not baited breath.

Yeah, I know...this really adds to the discussion.

Posted by: Are We Having Fun Yeti at August 31, 2011 09:23 AM (O7Q1u)

252 Happy birthday Mallamutt, from another Virgo [in addition to y-not]. Have you hit the great 50 yet?

Posted by: museisluse at August 31, 2011 09:23 AM (4Lj43)

253 Dammit Sphynx!!!!

Posted by: Are We Having Fun Yeti at August 31, 2011 09:23 AM (O7Q1u)

254 Does that make Palin a Tokyo-Rovian, Krauthammer-like, Castlesque RINO now?

Posted by: Elize Nayden at August 31, 2011 09:24 AM (oJnjm)

255 Yeti, I have enjoyed the mind meld.

Posted by: Sphynx at August 31, 2011 09:25 AM (fEmj2)

256

Have you hit the great 50 yet?

No..........but its a coming. 47 today.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 31, 2011 09:27 AM (OWjjx)

257 253 Happy birthday Mallamutt, from another Virgo [in addition to y-not].

How about the three of us get together and tidy up the threads?  Who's with me, fellow OCD sufferers?!!  Together we can!!!  :-)

Posted by: Y-not at August 31, 2011 09:33 AM (5H6zj)

258 This doesn't give me confidence in her management abilities, but I'm sure that's just because I hate women.

At the risk of being labeled a stone age cretin, I'm not real confident in a woman's ability to be president.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2011 09:35 AM (r4wIV)

259 255 Does that make Palin a Tokyo-Rovian, Krauthammer-like, Castlesque RINO now?

Posted by: Elize Nayden at August 31, 2011 02:24 PM (oJnjm)

No, those titles are now bestowed upon Christine O'Donnell and Tea Party of America. Those clowns are yet again playing Chutes and Ladders while Sarahcuda is playing Risk. Rent free. PDS. Yeaaaaaggghhh.


Posted by: The Palinista at August 31, 2011 09:36 AM (TUax9)

260 At the risk of being labeled a stone age cretin, I'm not real confident in a woman's ability to be president.

I think she could be a good president given the chance to make decisions without constant interference and criticism and lawsuits and the like.

There is ZERO chance that could ever happen, so I have to agree with you for that reason.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 31, 2011 09:42 AM (rxez/)

261 Goddam it, "BATED" breath.  I hope they weren't waiting with fish in their mouths.

Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at August 31, 2011 09:43 AM (C7KNt)

262 I want Palin as Sec of State.  Man, would that make heads explode across the globe.

Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at August 31, 2011 09:44 AM (C7KNt)

263

How about the three of us get together and tidy up the threads?  Who's with me, fellow OCD sufferers?!! 

 

I can blame that on being born a Virgo and not on my Mom?

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2011 09:50 AM (OpUcY)

264 Tammy Bruce just reported that Palin will be at the Tea Party meeting

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 31, 2011 09:53 AM (RKzwg)

265 I can blame that on being born a Virgo and not on my Mom?

Absolutely.  Never blame your mom for something you can blame on the stars!

Posted by: Y-not at August 31, 2011 09:53 AM (5H6zj)

266

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 01:21 PM (8y9MW)

I'll warm the crowd up. Give me a call.

Posted by: Hot Karl at August 31, 2011 10:01 AM (gMONh)

267 Could be Palin's agreed to be the Stalking Horse for Perry--draw the MBM's fire so he can have a cleaner run...

Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at August 31, 2011 10:12 AM (C7KNt)

268 O'Donnell was such a drag, that she almost cost Toomey his election.  The O'Donnell ads were up in the Philly/Wilmington market.  Toomey had to overcome a huge deficit in Philly and its suburbs as a result.

Anyone thinking it is a good idea to invite O'Donnell to anything should lose their position immediately. What a mistake that nomination was.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 31, 2011 10:25 AM (9t6jP)

269 Ace the RINO lover does it again.  The RINOs are dying before your eyes.  Palin-Bachman, but no RINOs.  No big spending losers who fly rainbow flags.  No country clubbers who have sold their souls for power.  No ex Dhimmies or Bushies. McCanns, Doles or Specters.  Not ever again.

Posted by: Molon Labe at August 31, 2011 10:37 AM (e36+G)

270

Did someone mention Bigfoot on this site?

What if Bigfoot is a genetic hybrid created  by ancient astronauts from a distant galaxy using the basic genetic structure of  Cro-Magnon? What if they can grow to be thirty feet tall and harbor the strength of five hundred very strong men? Was it these creatures that built the Great Pyramid of Giza? What if they are currently thriving as a society within the Mammoth Cave system? Are they our friends? Are they our enemies, waiting for an attack signal from Quetzcoatl, hovering in a ship capapable of travelling across galaxies? Would a baby Bigfoot's dick all be bigger than Milton Berle's dick? Questions like these make my hair stand up. Perhaps the debate should start there. 

Posted by: Giorgio Tsoukalos at August 31, 2011 10:41 AM (gMONh)

271 Palin and the tea party had this planned for weeks.contrary to what steve doucheybag said this morning she never promised to announce her intentions. If that is what she is doing why would she accept a hitchhiker hawking books as her leeadin? Like having dick the toe sucker morris preceding mittens or rick I supported hillarycare perry to sell his latest tall tales and 100% wrong prognostications

Posted by: Concealed kerry or submit at August 31, 2011 10:51 AM (La2ZX)

272

The More I Think About It... The less I find fault with Palin. What was the Tea Party of America thinking?

Exactly. Who is Ken Crow, anyway?

Whether supporting McCain vs. Obama or O'Donnell vs. RINO/socialist, it was the proverbial holding the nose while voting for the lesser of two weevils

Once it's over, particularly after defeat, it's never again...let sleeping dogs lie.

/especially deny I'm-not-a-witch a current Tea Party rally (of any sort) speaking engagement, or invitation to make her public re-appearance resurrection magic act. If she's a phoenix, she has to rise from her own ashes without a godfather Crow patronization.

/which is why AZ shouldn't have fallen for McCain's "build the danged fence" re-election bid. It took McCain no time at all to attempt requiring vitamins and over the counter supplements and legal drugs be available only through prescription.

Posted by: maverick muse at August 31, 2011 10:57 AM (lpWVn)

273 I think she could be a good president given the chance to make decisions without constant interference and criticism and lawsuits and the like.

There is ZERO chance that could ever happen, so I have to agree with you for that reason.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 31, 2011 02:42 PM (rxez/)

How so?

Honest question.  Because I don't see anything in her which I feel qualifies her to be president, let alone a good president, certainly not more so than most everyone else in the GOP field. 

Note, "being a vociferous defender of conservative values" is not enough, otherwise we might as well nominate blowhards like Mark Levin or Sean Hannity as the GOP candidate.

Posted by: Vyceroy at August 31, 2011 10:58 AM (mqy6N)

274 Christine O'Donnell needs to bow out gracefully.  I think any further public appearances just do her harm.  And it won't bother me if Palin doesn't run for POTUS.  She does well as the prime cheerleader and I think that's where she belongs.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 31, 2011 10:59 AM (a/SeY)

275 You would think the Koch brothers would run a tighter ship. It's as if the Tea Party were run by a bunch of impassioned grass-roots amateurs!

Posted by: Annoyer of Liberal Acquaintances at August 31, 2011 11:00 AM (nTjSs)

276 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 31, 2011 11:13 AM (1Nzoh)

277 Jeez, the same thing happened to Ross Perot. Do I have to tell you guys everything? And, ace you gotta stop with the "more thinking"-take it from me.

Posted by: Kim Kardashian at August 31, 2011 11:15 AM (14jKX)

278

Posted by: Molon Labe at August 31, 2011 03:37 PM (e36+G)

For my birthday could you just make sense.....once?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 31, 2011 11:15 AM (OWjjx)

279 276 Good sarc.  I'm not sure I like the fact that our monolithic conspiracy to turn America into a gun-loving, bigoted, theocratic corporate plantation resembles a cat rodeo more than a Soviet.  I kinda feel like Tom Friedman yearning for Chinese "discipline" at times.  Then again, the amateur dinner theatre stuff confirms the grass roots bona fides and shows Karl Rove hasn't been invited in for tea.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at August 31, 2011 11:33 AM (yK8YH)

280

*shakes head*

It hate this crap. Some of us females were fighting hard for our right to run in the tall grass with the big dogs loooong before Sarah Palin came into view.

We fought hard. We didn't quit, no matter what. We didn't want to go all 'girly' and confirm what our detractors were eager to say about a woman's inability to do hard stuff..... And this shit is really unhelpful.

And now Palin's faithful followers will grasp at whatever excuses they can to claim that this was "not her fault". Again. While refusing to see that this is exactly what the faithful followers of Obama do for him, when he refuses to take responsibility for the things that are his responsibility.

If Sarah Palin cared at all for the people who adore her, she would not have been torturing them with her indecisiveness. If she really ever truly was considering getting in this race, and she is as smart as people say she is......then she should realize that being so indecisive is not a good reflection of her ability to be a good POTUS. For which decisiveness is a prerequisite.

At this point, I hope she doesn't endorse any of the other candidates. None of them deserve to have her drama attached to them. 

Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at August 31, 2011 11:38 AM (2Mtxm)

281 O'Donnell was such a drag, that she almost cost Toomey his election.  The O'Donnell ads were up in the Philly/Wilmington market.  Toomey had to overcome a huge deficit in Philly and its suburbs as a result.

Posted by: Dave in Fla

 

And your source proving this assertion is, where? There's apparantly exit polling or surveys from these areas stating that they would have voted for Toomey but for O'Donnell ads?

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 31, 2011 11:49 AM (326rv)

282 There ain't no president of the Tea Party Movement, for crying out loud. We're all just out here doing our thing, we don't have leaders.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 31, 2011 12:44 PM (r4wIV)

283

This presumes, as so many do, that Palin cares about doing the "honorable" thing more than she arrogantly wants to run for President and make it all about her.

I, for one, do not perceive that she does.

Posted by: Vyceroy at August 31, 2011 02:10 PM (mqy6N)

Hmm...Sometimes when someone's an arrogant ass, they see arrogance in everyone else, but fail to recognize it in themselves.

How's that working out for you?

Posted by: Steph at August 31, 2011 02:34 PM (gt9sj)

284

Yes, lets' believe every "source close to Palin" every time it's reported.   But then, bitch and moan all day every day about how the media lies just to stir up shit about your preferred candidates.

Don't ever try to find out the actual truth.   Just jump on the bandwagon because you don't like the person the story is about.

It's going to be great fun to watch the Perry supporters falling all over themselves trying to fight all the lies that will be cited about him, and hear all the cries about the lying ass media.   Just remember all the crap in this thread from all of you when it happens.

Hypocrites.

Posted by: Steph at August 31, 2011 02:42 PM (gt9sj)

285 I love what you guys are frequently up too. Such clever work and reporting! Keep up the terrific works guys I’ve added you guys to my blogroll.

Posted by: The Ice Limit AudioBook at August 31, 2011 06:19 PM (qhonK)

286

279:

Mally:

 

Its your birthday, who knew?  Your mommy said she'd aborted you.  So tell us does your mommy celebrate the abortion?

 

Posted by: Molon Labe at August 31, 2011 07:14 PM (e36+G)

287 I don't know what this guy was thinkin'. Christine O'Donnell was a very poor choice to invite to a Tea Party rally headlined by the Gov. She's a failed Senate candidate. What exactly does she have to offer this crowd, other than trying to sell her book. I'm glad Sarah Palin brought the hammer down. She's flexing her muscles, as she should. The O'Donnell camp, and this Tea Party organizer, felt the wrath of Sarah Palin. Lesson? Don't mess with this woman. By the way, I never believed that SP would announce at this event. She's going to want to be in control of her roll out. Not have it be in the hands of an amateur. It's going to be spectacular, no doubt. Still believe it will be in her beloved state of AK.

Posted by: bellagrazi at September 01, 2011 05:06 AM (2A3ET)

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