July 31, 2005
— Ace This is only of interst to bloggers, but...
Okay, so I've been waiting to here from Pajamas Media, the last best chance at some of that Crazy Blog-Money I crave.
And it turns out... well, apart from a signing bonus, they're pretty much offering me just a little more per month than I've been making on BlogAds. But with BlogAds, I can have great months, whereas with Pajamas Media I'm stuck at the same level every quarter.
Or, I could go with the "Basic" plan, in which case I can continue using BlogAds too, but Pajamas Media gets the top four slots, which will of course depress my BlogAds prices.
I'm not knocking Pajamas Media. I suppose they did their best to negotiate with the sort of big coporate advertisers they wanted to attract. But they're barely offering more than Internet-based t-shirt sellers are offering.
Long story short: You can't make money in blogging unless you're one of the top ten bloggers. So, probably, best not to try at all.
Oh, And... I never had much by way of illusions that blogging could provide a salary, but I had hoped that Pajamas Media could manage to make it a worthwhile side-gig.
But the amount I'm being offered (and I'm a semi-somewhat-large blogger) doesn't even make it that.
Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at July 31, 2005 01:09 PM (ipjUv)
Sell out Ace, sell out - its the only rational thing to do.
Posted by: at July 31, 2005 01:22 PM (Sixm1)
Also, once PM is actually off the ground and has a proven product, they'll have a much better time signing up skiptical advertisers.
Posted by: Beck at July 31, 2005 02:22 PM (ZyH0M)
Posted by: ace at July 31, 2005 02:46 PM (+Nd6o)
Posted by: at July 31, 2005 02:57 PM (WObae)
Posted by: lauraw at July 31, 2005 03:02 PM (6krEN)
Heck, I'd settle for more Kim Richards in full 80's regalia.
> waiting to here from
Glad you finally herd from them.
Posted by: Guy T. at July 31, 2005 03:18 PM (6NzoK)
Are time is short heer on Arth. To shart for speling rite bulshite.
Posted by: lauraw at July 31, 2005 04:33 PM (6krEN)
Posted by: lauraw at July 31, 2005 04:34 PM (6krEN)
Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at July 31, 2005 05:05 PM (ipjUv)
Posted by: Ray Midge at July 31, 2005 05:40 PM (kUNrb)
First of all, the last piece of nudity on this blog had a devastating effect on everyone with the courage to look at it.
Secondly, no man-titty photos. They're not nudity, they're a henious crime against humanity.
Posted by: Dogstar at July 31, 2005 05:53 PM (KgeNY)
The question is whether they can reduce your headaches and increase your traffic over time by affiliating with them, and pay you enough to make it worth your while.
I'm signing with them. I like Blogads but I hate their user interface--I've done professional software and web design, and theirs is one of the worst I've ever seen. I hate it when customers try to sign up for ads with them but then get frustrated by what has to be the worst user interface on the planet.
I've also noticed that my blogads revenues vary wildly from month to month--the average is pretty good but I never know when or how many I'll bring in.
I have a pretty good idea what I can bring in with ads, and I'm absolutely certain that if I hustled for advertisers I could breat their offer. Thing is, I don't want to do that.
I didn't start blogging for money, and I don't blow for money. The money I get is nice--useful, sure, but I'd be doing this for nothing. In fact I did do it for nothing for a long time.
Looks like the Pajamas guys can reduce my headaches and increase my readers and well, what the hell. Seems like a better way to go to me.
Posted by: Dean Esmay at July 31, 2005 06:21 PM (fUXNc)
Well... maybe for special friends....
Posted by: Dean Esmay at July 31, 2005 06:22 PM (fUXNc)
Posted by: slickdpdx at July 31, 2005 07:42 PM (pO1tP)
Posted by: at July 31, 2005 08:05 PM (Sixm1)
It's good to know there are just some things you won't do for money. (unlike ace apparently... )
Posted by: Rightwingsparkle at July 31, 2005 08:09 PM (JDJCW)
Gee, the advertisers will be beating down my door!!!
Thanks guys. Thanks a yahoo.
Posted by: ace at July 31, 2005 08:25 PM (sYxc4)
Posted by: Shaniqua at August 01, 2005 12:05 AM (/C+88)
Speaking of sequined throw pillows, Imelda Marcos had one that said:
"Good girls go to heaven, bad girls go everywhere."
I'll bet she's rethinking that now.
Posted by: 72 VIRGINS at August 01, 2005 05:23 AM (dhRpo)
I like 'A rich man becomes bad, a bad woman becomes rich.'
Posted by: Karol at August 01, 2005 05:30 AM (qCYc3)
As for blogads vs. pajamas, the less I have to do with ads one way or another the better. I'm a pretty small site with around 3,000 a day and I'm really not into writing for money any more. Been there, done that, have the t-shirt.
That said, I have to remark that I've written blogads several times in the last year to see what the deal would be with them and have not once gotten so much as a reply back.
That's okay because I don't really care for the sorts of ads they place. Don't like the look and feel and "Back of Popular Science" items they put up on other sites. So I don't miss it.
Tried Google Ads but found their attempt to match ad to page content risible and didn't care for the Spartan google ad look so I commented them out.
If Pajamas can bring in some top shelf advertisers with good looking ads that would be great. It's a little recognized fact about magazines but the ads you have add to the look and feel of the book.
Just think about this startling contrast. Advertising in Penthouse vs. advertising in The New Yorker.
In a way, ads are like refs at a football game. You don't really notice them very much, but when you do its of interest to you and besides, they pretty much shape the game.
Posted by: vanderleun at August 01, 2005 05:49 AM (0tw/U)
It isn't as if the blogger was being asked to risk anything except a potential fall-off in chump change.
Posted by: Vanderleun at August 01, 2005 05:59 AM (0tw/U)
Willing to put in a good word for me?
Posted by: Jack M. at August 01, 2005 06:32 AM (M7kiy)
I like 'A rich man becomes bad, a bad woman becomes rich.'
I'm sure that when that bad woman reaches the age of Imelda Marcos, she'll be rethinking that too.
Posted by: 72 VIRGINS at August 01, 2005 06:33 AM (dhRpo)
Posted by: shit from shinola at August 01, 2005 06:34 AM (dhRpo)
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