September 29, 2013

Overnight Open Thread (9-29-2013)
— Maetenloch

New York City: Going Back to the Bad Old Days

Well they're on their way to electing the city's first Sandinista mayor, Bill de Blasio.

Earlier Tuesday, de Blasio defended his support of the Nicaraguan Sandinistas by comparing himself to FDR.

"I'm a progressive and I'm a Democrat and I'm very much in the tradition of Franklin Roosevelt," de Blasio said on WPIX TV, explaining why he traveled to Nicaragua more than two decades ago to support a government the U.S. was trying to topple.

And this was no youthful infatuation - he really really supported the Sandinistas:

He helped raise funds for the Sandinistas in New York and subscribed to the party's newspaper, Barricada, or Barricade. When he was asked at a meeting in 1990 about his goals for society, he said he was an advocate of "democratic socialism.".

...Mr. de Blasio remained supportive of the Sandinistas, often referred to by their acronym, F.S.L.N., even after they lost power. "People who had shallow party sympathies with the F.S.L.N. pretty much dropped everything when they lost," said Jane Guskin, a fellow activist in the solidarity group. "Bill wasn't like that.

And Ed Driscoll points out that NYC may see the return of 'no radio' and 'no cash' signs along with the reasons for them:

And everything Giuliani and Bloomberg have done is reversible. None of their gains is permanent. The barbarians are always at the gate. They are never vanquished, permanently. They may be kept at bay for a while - but they wait to be allowed back in.

...There was once a common sign in New York. People put it in their cars, when they left them on the street: "No Radio." It was a sign of helplessness and hopelessness. As Commissioner Kelly remarked, it said, Don't break into my car. The one behind me, maybe, or the one in front of me. But not mine, pretty please.

How pathetic. And how utterly accepted it was. I have never seen, personally, a "No Radio" sign. Ever. I moved here in 1998, remember - well into the Giuliani renaissance. Will that sign come back? (I don't know if cars have radios anymore - as they did pre-Giuliani. But they must have something.)

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Quote of the Day

"SHUTDOWN THE GOVERNMENT?! BUT HOW WOULD WE EAT OR BREATHE?! This is a warning to Ted Cruz and all his ilk: If the government stops operating for even one day - chaos and cannibalism will reign in the streets. Mark my words. Yeah, a government shutdown would only impact "non-essential" federal government functions. And, yeah, some might even argue that the government should only be doing the essential things in the first place. But that will be of little solace when you're bleeding on the ground, being eaten alive by the starving masses. I can scarcely imagine the horror. If non-essential government agencies and departments are forced to close for a short period of time, that means we'll have to find a way to go without the Administration on Aging, and the Japan-United States Friendship Commission, and the Indian Arts and Crafts Board, and the Bureau of Transportation Statistics. WHERE WILL I GET MY TRANSPORTATION STATISTICS?! You're playing with fire, conservatives. Civilization is bound together by the strong, steady hand of bureaucracy. If you loosen its grasp, you risk plunging us all into a dark, perilous land of individual responsibility and liberty. Our Founders fought and died to rescue us from such a fate, and I'll be damned if I sit here and let you undo their efforts."

Flashbang, Speedbump, and Modern Welfare

One of the revelations that came out after the Boston Marathon bombers were caught is that the entire Tsarnaev clan were living off welfare.

It was widely reported back in April that Flashbang, Speedbump, their parents Anzor and Zubeidat, and various other relatives had all been living entirely on welfare. Their cars came from the state. Their college tuition, room and board, and fees: all free. The press reported that they'd received over $100k in cash benefits alone.

Those stories petered out after Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick, who consistently defends even welfare fraud as legitimate "redistribution", insisted that the Tsarnayev's life on the arm was off limits See, they might be criminal monsters who would kill an eight-year-old (as F&S did) and express glee over it (as Zubeidat has). But they have privacy interests, and their privacy interests trump all.

Well guess what - you're still paying for their welfare. So they can hate you.

The welfare payments didn't stop. They didn't stop for Speedbump when the cops shot him and his brother administered an inadvertent coup de grâce with an SUV. His EBT card was still being filled months later - for his wife and children, no doubt. And they didn't stop for Anzor and Zubeidat when they moved back to Russian Central Asia. They simply gave an out-of-state cousin's address, and Massachusetts keeps loading their EBT cards.

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On Heckling, Society, and Manliness

The short version:

While attending the "DC's Funniest Celebrity" competition at the DC Improv, journo Josh Rogin was punched two or three times by Dan Nainan, a stand up comedian who had been hired to provide some actual comedy at the event, after Rogin tweeted about how terrible his jokes were. Rogin then tweeted about getting punched in the face and calling the cops. Nainan was arrested.

Jonathon Last comes down on Nainan's side:

On the one hand, if you sit around insulting a guy standing 30 or so feet from you, do you not expect a reaction? Rogin's taunts probably don't rise to"fighting words" but it says something really weird when people are so wedded to virtual space and divorced from meat space that they think spouting off insults about people near them is polite, acceptable behavior that will be universally accepted with bon homie. .

Rogin, did not retaliate, but immediately tweeted about the incident. He then pressed charges when the po-po arrived. The next morning, Rogin told the Washington Post, "My face hurts."

Really? This is how men conduct themselves in 21st century America?

But Sonny Bunch disagrees:

I half-agree, half-disagree with JVL. The half-agree first: Yes, American masculinity is in a woeful place when one feels compelled not to respond to aggression with aggression in kind. I'm going to go ahead and blame society here. If Rogin had thrown down he would've opened himself up to lawsuits and, in all likelihood, action by the police. He probably would've been arrested along with Nainan. He also would've been treated with scorn by his colleagues in attendance, most of whom would rather get punched in the face than throw one of their own. I can't say I blame Rogin for bemusedly tweeting about the incident rather than putting his fist through Nainan's face, no matter how much Nainan deserved it.

...There are different rules for meatspace and cyberspace. Different norms govern both. It's okay to (verbally**) destroy a heckler from the stage. And it would be okay to (electronically) destroy a heckler on Twitter. But violence is an inappropriate response to someone who's making fun of you on social media. If you can't handle the horde poking fun at you, don't open a Twitter account.

Me - I much prefer a world where physical violence is rare. Which means you better be able to brutalize a critical asshole verbally and on social media when you need to.

How to Make an Easy $200,000 Off the Upcoming Postal Increase

Well first you gotta buy $4.6 million dollars of Forever stamps before the price increase.

Our plan is to buy 10 million stamps at $0.46 each and sell them at $0.48. The margins, of course, are small. If we buy 10 million stamps, spending $4.6 million, we'll earn $200,000-a 4.3% profit.

The good news is that you can buy up to 1 million stamps in a single order from the USPS, and pay a mere $1.75 in shipping (shipping is their business, after all).

They then run the numbers on the nitty gritty details and it still looks like pretty good investment.

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Privatize It

At least here we aren't being forced to finance ABC, NBC, and CBS via a TV fee:

Ten per cent of English court cases now involve the prosecution of citizens who decline to pay for the BBC. That's some 700 cases per day. We'd probably see a similar number in Australia if funding for our state broadcaster wasn't drawn directly and immorally from our taxes.

Also: Too Dangerous for the Library

Recreating the Hemingway Burger

Fingers deep, I kneaded. Fighting the urge to be careless and quick, I kept the pace rhythmic, slow. Each squeeze, I hoped, would gently ease the flavors-knobby bits of garlic, finely chopped capers, smatterings of dry spices-into the marbled mound before me.

I had made burgers before, countless times on countless evenings. This one was different; I wasn't making just any burger-I was attempting to recreate Hemingway's hamburger. And it had to be just right.

...It started off simply enough: ground beef, India relish, capers, and green onions, mixed with various spices, egg, and wine. (The recipe is very specific about the brand of spices; Spice Islands appeared to be the Hemingway spice brand of choice.)

Mei Yen powder, however, tripped me up. Perhaps it was a popular spice in the 1950s but in 2013, it was nowhere to be found; it turns out it was discontinued three years ago. But after some conferring with the good people at Spice Islands, I had a recipe for recreating that.

And so I began. First, I broke up the meat, scattering the garlic, onion and dry seasonings over it. After letting that rest for a smidgen, I added the relish, capers, wine, and all else and let that "sit, quietly marinating." The smell of spices, garlic, capers, meat, and wine slowly perfumed the air of my tiny kitchen.

Hemingway liked his burgers pan-fried, not grilled. So, out came the pan. The heady scent of charred beef tinged with sage, garlic, and celery seed rapidly became unbearable. I could not wait to eat. By the time the burger was "crispy brown and the middle pink and juicy" my pangs were palpable.

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Weekly AoSHQ Commenter Standings

Top 10 commenters:
1 [691 comments] 'Niedermeyer's Dead Horse' [97.01 posts/day]
2 [630 comments] 'willow'
3 [359 comments] 'Mike Hammer'
4 [350 comments] 'thunderb'
5 [346 comments] ' Beagle'
6 [318 comments] 'AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) MFM Delenda Est'
7 [308 comments] 'Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review'
8 [304 comments] 'Anna Puma (+SmuD)'
9 [292 comments] 'EC'
10 [286 comments] 'Jones in CO'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [59 names] 'The Political Hat' [8.28 unique names/day]
2 [54 names] 'phreshone'
3 [45 names] ' Beagle'
4 [44 names] 'kbdabear'
5 [44 names] 'adams have you seen Mel Brooks' wife porn'
6 [33 names] 'Cicero (@cicero)'
7 [30 names] 'logprof'
8 [28 names] 'Low Information Voter'
9 [28 names] 'Doctor Fish'
10 [27 names] 'Schr?dinger's cat </i>'

The group. Yeah.

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1 This I found from the morning Book thread. Ancient Recipes, pretty interesting: http://www.godecookery.com/goderec/goderec.htm And a quote from the Boke: Bacon is good all tymes in the yere

Posted by: .87c at September 29, 2013 04:59 PM (qZPXs)

2 Tang go with Kaboom?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 29, 2013 04:59 PM (DHQv9)

3 Aloha!

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 05:01 PM (T1005)

4 Best comment about the Dreaded Shut Down: @BoSnerdley 12h Oh. By the way. If the government is shut down - does that mean Obamacare is shut down with it? Or is Dear Leaders program above govt?

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 05:01 PM (5H6zj)

5 iSandinista! by The Clash: http://youtu.be/qD8qOC1hJZc

Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 05:02 PM (fOFYL)

6 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 29, 2013 05:02 PM (JMmQ9)

7 Had a stereo stolen from my truck while I was parked in a Taco Bell having my 30-minute lunch break.

Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 29, 2013 05:02 PM (DHQv9)

8 "New York City: Going Back to the Bad Old Days" Who cares. Let the liberal dumbasses live with the consequences of their liberal votes. After they're knocked over their heads for their wallets and jewelry they can pat themselves on the back for being humanitarians.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 29, 2013 05:04 PM (/B37E)

9 I'm watching SNF in livestream HD from NBC's website

I love technology and stuff

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 29, 2013 05:04 PM (8sCoq)

10

Why does my computer keep asking me to download a program from a.sitemeter.com every time I refresh the screen?

 

Posted by: Bill R. at September 29, 2013 05:04 PM (QnRSM)

11 Freddy Fender – Wasted Days and Wasted Nights


http://youtu.be/-Qu8RPvhP-U

Posted by: Joethefatman (@joethefatman1) at September 29, 2013 05:04 PM (MnSla)

12 Evening morons.  Another pleasant night in the ER salt mine, saving stupid from itself.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 05:05 PM (sQ0LB)

13

10
Why does my computer keep asking me to download a program from a.sitemeter.com every time I refresh the screen?

 

 

Yeah, what's up with that?

 

Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 29, 2013 05:06 PM (DHQv9)

14 Me - I much prefer a world where physical violence is rare. Which means you better be able to brutalize a critical asshole verbally and on social media when you need to. What world is that? Certainly not the one we live in. And if you talk shit, you better be prepared and able to back it up.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 05:06 PM (GEICT)

15 Looking forward to the serious news articles detailing how woeful the shutdown is for those government employees. Most of my friends and neighbors work for the feds, and none of them seem to be sweating it at all because they know it will amount to nothing, but it won't stop the tales of woe from being endlessly regurgitated. Frankly, I'm just looking forward to a couple of days of real easy commutes to work.

Posted by: Paul Zummo at September 29, 2013 05:06 PM (caPl0)

16 Anyone remember how often the government shut down under the peanut president? Was married to Army then, the dollar was in the basement and yet we survived.

Posted by: Ma Bell at September 29, 2013 05:06 PM (RLdcX)

17 Did the "please don't break my window" signs actually work? 

Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 29, 2013 05:06 PM (hO8IJ)

18 you people need FF

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 29, 2013 05:06 PM (8sCoq)

19 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=3359

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 29, 2013 05:06 PM (Vk2pI)

20 So I bought a grinder and ground up a 2lb chuck roast and a 1lb sirloin. That's how a burger is supposed to taste.

Posted by: Beto at September 29, 2013 05:07 PM (MhA4j)

21 That Tang ad. Yeah, the Space Shuttle was originally supposed to have a flyback booster. But budget cuts.

Posted by: rickl at September 29, 2013 05:07 PM (sdi6R)

22 Hey guys, GUESS WHO LOST TODAAAYYYY

Anybody, c'mon, who lost!

Posted by: Camel on Wednesday at September 29, 2013 05:07 PM (aTXUx)

23 Good Night Y'all

Posted by: Joethefatman (@joethefatman1) at September 29, 2013 05:07 PM (MnSla)

24 "'I'm a progressive and I'm a Democrat and I'm very much in the tradition of Franklin Roosevelt,' de Blasio said on WPIX TV"

Needless to say, he's a Communist.

But nevertheless, it's true that he is "very much in the tradition of Franklin Roosevelt". Given the absolutely extraordinary number of high level FDR aides who were revealed after the end of the Cold War to have been covert Soviet agents of influence.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 05:08 PM (gqT4g)

25 22 Hey guys, GUESS WHO LOST TODAAAYYYY Anybody, c'mon, who lost! Posted by: Camel on Wednesday at September 29, 2013 10:07 PM (aTXUx) Ha! Yeah, where is navycopjoe????

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 05:08 PM (GEICT)

26 Ahhhh. Football, or something.

Posted by: Czar Peter at September 29, 2013 05:08 PM (hMQKI)

27 I'd also like to point out that 'a certain team' took a ass-whuppin' today, while another 'certain team' (hint: orange) set team records for 1st downs and points scored

Posted by: Jones in CO at September 29, 2013 05:09 PM (8sCoq)

28 The WSJ take: http://urlmin.com/tca

Posted by: TheEngineer at September 29, 2013 05:09 PM (9PNNC)

29 Why does my computer keep asking me to download a program from a.sitemeter.com every time I refresh the screen?
Yeah, what's up with that?
Posted by: Cicero Kid at September 29, 2013 10:06 PM (DHQv9)


Apparently it's something screwed up with sitemeter that's affecting a lot of sites. You can just ignore it.

Posted by: Mtenloch at September 29, 2013 05:09 PM (XkotV)

30 Congrats to the top tens.

Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 29, 2013 05:10 PM (9jfyN)

31 10
Why does my computer keep asking me to download a program from a.sitemeter.com every time I refresh the screen?

Posted by: Bill R. at September 29, 2013 10:04 PM (QnRSM)

 

I've been having the same issue all weekend, along with some other morons.  The theory I heard is that it's a buggy line of code in the sitemeter app on the site.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 05:10 PM (sQ0LB)

32 27 I'd also like to point out that 'a certain team' took a ass-whuppin' today, while another 'certain team' (hint: orange) set team records for 1st downs and points scored Posted by: Jones in CO at September 29, 2013 10:09 PM (8sCoq) --I'm holding out for the Cheatriots to lose tonight. BTW, where did Delta Smelt go these last few months???

Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 05:10 PM (fOFYL)

33 Hello?

Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 05:12 PM (fOFYL)

34 BTW, where did Delta Smelt go these last few months???

I've seen him on Twitter.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 29, 2013 05:12 PM (hO8IJ)

35

Yup, the Iggles are in trouble.  I propose sacrificing Vick to the dog gods as appeasment, followed by a cranio-rectal disinversion procedure on the defense.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 05:12 PM (sQ0LB)

36 By the way. I'm still banking that nobody will notice a government shutdown for at least a month, especially if they fund the military.

Posted by: Czar Peter at September 29, 2013 05:12 PM (hMQKI)

37 NYC has quite a few people who moved in after the Dinkins regime

Those hipsters in Brooklyn had better read up on "Crown Heights Riots" and "Yankel Rosenbaum"

Posted by: kbdabear at September 29, 2013 05:13 PM (aTXUx)

38
Yeah, where is navycopjoe????

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 10:08 PM (GEICT)



Maybe God decided today was the day to unleash the full punishment for his hubris.  The Bears lose, while T announced that she's pregnant and his daughter came home and said, "I met this nice boy today..."

Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 29, 2013 05:13 PM (lr3d7)

39 25 I got 6-1 odds on Detroit and giving up 7-1/2 points. Wish I'd bet a grand instead of ten bucks

Posted by: Beto at September 29, 2013 05:13 PM (MhA4j)

40 >>35 Yup, the Iggles are in trouble. In addition to really disliking Vick, I'm sick to death of them humping CHIP KELLY!'s leg. The man hasn't done jack in the NFL but the announcers act like he's Zombie Vince Lombardi.

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 05:14 PM (5H6zj)

41 35 Yup, the Iggles are in trouble. I propose sacrificing Vick to the dog gods as appeasment, followed by a cranio-rectal disinversion procedure on the defense. Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 10:12 PM (sQ0LB) --Yep, in my winningest fantasy team I drafted Vick as a backup QB, wanted to hold on until after Matt Ryan's bye week, but may have to ditch him sooner.

Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 05:15 PM (fOFYL)

42 while T announced that she's pregnant and his daughter came home and said, "I met this nice boy today..." Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 29, 2013 10:13 PM (lr3d7) For the full wrath you need to reverse those two.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 05:15 PM (GEICT)

43 22 Hey guys, GUESS WHO LOST TODAAAYYYY

Anybody, c'mon, who lost!


The Reds, swept by the Pirates (who included an inside-the-park homer for good measure).

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 29, 2013 05:15 PM (eawoP)

44 Just how much will a pawn shop or chop shop give for a factory cassette tape deck or factory CD player. In all likely hood, not even enough to buy a pack of smokes.

Posted by: Trevor (@TJexcite) at September 29, 2013 05:15 PM (a7NX9)

45 31  If you were running a real browser like IE that wouldn't be happening

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 05:15 PM (b7yum)

46 14 Me - I much prefer a world where physical violence is rare. Which means you better be able to brutalize a critical asshole verbally and on social media when you need to.

What world is that?
Certainly not the one we live in.
And if you talk shit, you better be prepared and able to back it up.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 10:06 PM (GEICT)


Well actually it's the world *I* live in. I haven't been in a fight since middle school and haven't even seen a real life scuffle in a few years. For the most part I never have to think about hitting someone else or getting hit in my daily life. And I like it that way.

If violence is regular part of your life, you might want to re-think some of your life choices.

Posted by: Mtenloch at September 29, 2013 05:15 PM (XkotV)

47 10 Why does my computer keep asking me to download a program from a.sitemeter.com every time I refresh the screen? Posted by: Bill R. at September 29, 2013 10:04 PM (QnRSM) That's a Java Exploit from surfing MILF Porn

Posted by: Beto at September 29, 2013 05:15 PM (MhA4j)

48 "There was once a common sign in New York. People put it in their cars, when they left them on the street: 'No Radio.' It was a sign of helplessness and hopelessness."

In massively liberal San Francisco today, if you leave ANYTHING visible inside your car, it is likely to be gone when you come back. The locals will break windows using spark plugs on strings, slice convertible tops with knives, rip out door handles with pry bars. They're fast. I've seen cases of break-ins under two minutes after the car is parked and left.

It doesn't have to be high-dollar lure merchandise like laptops or phones or jewelry. Stupid shit like gloves and scarves are entirely sufficient. But even lesser stuff is a risk.

A friend of mine left a half-eaten burger on the passenger seat while he dashed in to get his dry cleaning. Someone popped the side window. For a half-eaten burger.

(By the way, my fingers slipped and I originally composed that sentence as "a half-eaten bugger", which has to be one of the most awesome inadvertent typos in history, especially in a San Francisco context.)

Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 05:16 PM (gqT4g)

49 I remember NYC of the 70s, which is when Death Wish was made

Blimps flying Yankee Stadium during the '77 World Series showed fires lighting up the night skies over the Bronx each and every night

Posted by: kbdabear at September 29, 2013 05:16 PM (aTXUx)

50 44 $5 is a hit and $10 is a bowl

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 05:16 PM (b7yum)

51 Hey guys, GUESS WHO LOST TODAAAYYYY Anybody, c'mon, who lost! The Reds, swept by the Pirates (who included an inside-the-park homer for good measure). Posted by: Basement Cat at September 29, 2013 10:15 PM (eawoP) --Thanks, Mr. Anticlimax! [Baseball -Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 05:16 PM (fOFYL)

52


In addition to really disliking Vick, I'm sick to death of them humping CHIP KELLY!'s leg. The man hasn't done jack in the NFL but the announcers act like he's Zombie Vince Lombardi.

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 10:14 PM (5H6zj)

 

Meanwhile, Andy Reid got run out of town on a rail and the Chiefs look pretty good under him.  If I were him, I'd probably buy up billboards all over town asking, "How's my ass taste?"

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 05:16 PM (sQ0LB)

53 Fucking neo-prohibition fascists.
http://is.gd/pwSxsy

Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 29, 2013 05:16 PM (hO8IJ)

54 Meanwhile, Andy Reid got run out of town on a rail and the Chiefs look pretty good under him. ---- Yeah, that's pretty funny. I don't fault the Eagles for making a change, but it is nice to see what Reid is doing with the Chiefs. It'd be nice if they were a real team, again.

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 05:18 PM (5H6zj)

55 Y-not. That is a great comment! I've been out in rose garden all day & have no idea what is going on in US. Are we headed for a government shutdown? Yes! I want it shut down especially when I read how many non essential assistants SCOAMF & Moochelle have, that won't be paid! I think 15 of 90 are essential, something like that.

Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2013 05:18 PM (z4WKX)

56

(By the way, my fingers slipped and I originally composed that sentence as "a half-eaten bugger", which has to be one of the most awesome inadvertent typos in history, especially in a San Francisco context.)

Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 10:16 PM (gqT4g)

 

A Mr. Hannibal called to ask, "what typo?"

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 05:18 PM (sQ0LB)

57 Andy Reid is just happy as hell to get the fuck out of this town. Just moving away on its own will re-energize a person why am I still here?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 29, 2013 05:18 PM (2up3Q)

58 Yes! I want it shut down especially when I read how many non essential assistants SCOAMF & Moochelle have, that won't be paid!

Don't get they get a retroactive paycheck when the money starts flowing again?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 29, 2013 05:19 PM (hO8IJ)

59 I thought there was a Right to Bear Arms.  Someone should tell Jay Cutler

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 05:19 PM (b7yum)

60 KC BBQ > Philly cheese steaks, that's for sure.

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 05:19 PM (5H6zj)

61 the eagles are playing like college players themselves so Chip feels more at home or something

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 29, 2013 05:19 PM (2up3Q)

62 I don't fault the Eagles for making a change, but it is nice to see what Reid is doing with the Chiefs. It'd be nice if they were a real team, again. Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 10:18 PM (5H6zj) --Did someone mention the Chiefs? AFC West is looking pretty damn fucking good today!

Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 05:19 PM (fOFYL)

63 why am I still here? Posted by: BlackOrchid I heard they were going to sell it back to England

Posted by: Beto at September 29, 2013 05:19 PM (MhA4j)

64
New York City: Going Back to the Bad Old Days




Aww - now I'm to be up all night worrying about New Yorkers being inconvenienced because of their political choices.

I better take an Advil PM tonight.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2013 05:20 PM (kdS6q)

65 >>AFC West is looking pretty damn fucking good today! Sure is.

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 05:20 PM (5H6zj)

66 I've been going onto YouTube lately watch videos of The Commitments. That was one of my all time favorite movies-probably my favorite musical ever.

Posted by: Northernlurker at September 29, 2013 05:20 PM (BLAfs)

67 As a lifelong New Yorker (now Westchester resident), you can already see ift slipping back ever so subtly. The panhandlers at the traffic lights and the junkie doing the "heroin nod" in broad daylight in upper Manhattan being just a couple of examples.

Posted by: madtechie at September 29, 2013 05:20 PM (Sp5D+)

68 The signs in the car windows will have to be written in six different languages now.

Posted by: CMU VET at September 29, 2013 05:20 PM (ejB0r)

69 No one steels car radios anymore, the new target is your smart phone--from your hand. Maybe you'll see people wearing shirts that say "My phone is a flip phone".

Posted by: big al at September 29, 2013 05:21 PM (3MNCs)

70 Don't get they get a retroactive paycheck when the money starts flowing again? Posted by: HeatherRadish™ at September 29, 2013 10:19 PM Yes, they do. It's very off-pissing...

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 29, 2013 05:21 PM (JMmQ9)

71 -Thanks, Mr. Anticlimax!

Proper example of an anticlimax: For God, for Country, and for Yale.

As for the zzzzzz, you ain't been in the Burgh when the longest losing streak in all major league sports finally comes to an end.

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 29, 2013 05:21 PM (eawoP)

72 Well actually it's the world *I* live in. I haven't been in a fight since middle school and haven't even seen a real life scuffle in a few years. For the most part I never have to think about hitting someone else or getting hit in my daily life. And I like it that way. If violence is regular part of your life, you might want to re-think some of your life choices. Posted by: Mætenloch at September 29, 2013 10:15 PM (XkotV) No, it isn't. Violence, either actual or the inherent threat of it, is a part of everyday life whether you realize it or not. The threat of physical force is what is used to keep law and order. It is civilization. If you take that threat away, then the really bad people WILL commit much worse violence. If you can't recognize that, perhaps you should rethink your life choices.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 05:21 PM (GEICT)

73 8 "New York City: Going Back to the Bad Old Days"

Who cares. Let the liberal dumbasses live with the consequences of their liberal votes.
After they're knocked over their heads for their wallets and jewelry they can pat themselves on the back for being humanitarians.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 29, 2013 10:04 PM (/B37E)


AD: The problem is those liberals will move to where you live and continue to vote in the same way that screwed up their home in the first place--and I say that as someone who's lived in New York for years.

AD: Listen, and understand. The NY liberals are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you have a guy like de Blasio as your mayor.

Nerdygirl: Uh-huh. Well, let's go back to what I was...

AD: Look! You have heard enough! I have answered your questions! Now, I have to see Sarah Connor!

Nerdygirl: I'm afraid that's not up to me.

AD: Then why am I talking to you? Who is in authority here?

Nerdygirl : Please, I...

AD: Shut up!

[looks into the camera]

AD: You still don't get it, do you? They'll move to your hometown.  They'll find you! That's what they do! That's ALL they do! You can't stop them! They'll wade through you just like they did in Colorado and New Hampshire, reach down her throat and elect every leftwinger in sight!

Posted by: AD at September 29, 2013 05:21 PM (NmpZu)

74

This is really neat. Tiny baby dragons you can hold in your hand.

 

 

I want about a dozen. Keep two, and release the rest to go after D.C., the FSA and LIV's.

 

 

http://tinyurl.com/lb9pvg7

Posted by: ExSnipe at September 29, 2013 05:22 PM (57ubW)

75 60 KC BBQ > Philly cheese steaks, that's for sure.

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 10:19 PM (5H6zj)

 

I beg to differ.  I like ribs, but come on!

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 05:22 PM (sQ0LB)

76 Breaking Bad was good.  I will miss it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 29, 2013 05:22 PM (jucos)

77 If violence is regular part of your life, you might want to re-think some of your life choices.
Posted by: Mætenloch at September 29, 2013 10:15 PM

It ain't MY violence that's a problem, ya stutterin' prick!

Posted by: Tommy DeVito at September 29, 2013 05:23 PM (aTXUx)

78 only 76 in

Posted by: alaskan driftwood at September 29, 2013 05:24 PM (yh6zE)

79 BEARS ARE 4-0 BABY!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 05:24 PM (vJdyz)

80 "New York City: Going Back to the Bad Old Days" Why it's almost like some people are playing the taxpayers for suckers.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 29, 2013 05:24 PM (/B37E)

81 Speaking of NY liberals, I think Joan From the Upper West Side pretty much sums it up http://youtu.be/RmyjlmfCYJY

Posted by: madtechie at September 29, 2013 05:24 PM (Sp5D+)

82 79 BEARS ARE 4-0 BABY!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 10:24 PM (vJdyz) So, you raided CAC's stash?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 05:24 PM (GEICT)

83

From:   19 Here is the "News of the Week"   http://tinyurl.com/k2lctqa

 

Yay! We win!!!      81%   Top THAT Bitchez!!  

 

I think life is officially going to start the suck  


 

 

 

Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 05:25 PM (KDUNf)

84 46 Maet,

some jobs carry violence as an occupational hazard, interior decerator comes to mind.

Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 29, 2013 05:25 PM (9jfyN)

85 navycopjoe is three sheets to the wind now.

Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 05:25 PM (fOFYL)

86 Well actually it's the world *I* live in. I haven't been in a fight since middle school and haven't even seen a real life scuffle in a few years. For the most part I never have to think about hitting someone else or getting hit in my daily life. And I like it that way. If violence is regular part of your life, you might want to re-think some of your life choices. Posted by: Mætenloch at September 29, 2013 10:15 PM (XkotV) No, it isn't. Violence, either actual or the inherent threat of it, is a part of everyday life whether you realize it or not. The threat of physical force is what is used to keep law and order. It is civilization. If you take that threat away, then the really bad people WILL commit much worse violence. If you can't recognize that, perhaps you should rethink your life choices. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 10:21 PM This should be good; Cochran is about to get Mæt stomped...

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 29, 2013 05:26 PM (JMmQ9)

87 84 46 Maet, some jobs carry violence as an occupational hazard, interior decerator comes to mind. Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 29, 2013 10:25 PM (9jfyN) No shit. Apparently being a cop or a paramedic is the result of poor life choices.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 05:26 PM (GEICT)

88 Government shutdown is serious business you guys. Look what happened to us when they shut down the Department of Pants That Actually Have Asses.

Posted by: Dude with a mohawk from Road Warrior at September 29, 2013 05:26 PM (2jQGY)

89 This should be good; Cochran is about to get Mæt stomped... Posted by: AltonJackson at September 29, 2013 10:26 PM (JMmQ9) *shrug* My opinion is my opinion.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 05:27 PM (GEICT)

90 Posted by: Mætenloch at September 29, 2013 10:15 PM It ain't MY violence that's a problem, ya stutterin' prick! Posted by: Tommy DeVito at September 29, 2013 10:23 PM (aTXUx) wow, challenging a CoB, [redacted]

Posted by: alaskan driftwood at September 29, 2013 05:27 PM (yh6zE)

91 The threat of physical force is what is used to keep law and order. It is civilization. If you take that threat away, then the really bad people WILL commit much worse violence. If you can't recognize that, perhaps you should rethink your life choices. Posted by: BCochran1981 Obtuseness - 10 yards. 3rd down. ( WHEEEEET! )

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at September 29, 2013 05:28 PM (ligos)

92 "Yeah, the Space Shuttle was originally supposed to have a flyback booster. But budget cuts."

Note that one or both of the catastrophic and lethal Shuttle losses would have been averted if the original flyback booster idea had been used.

Challenger? Solid rocket booster joint burnthrough. No SRBs in the original.

Columbia? Damage to Orbiter from external tank insulation breaking off. Some versions of the original design sensibly put the Orbiter above the flyback booster, which would have done away with that risk as well.

I spent a couple of decades cursing the failure of NASA to go with the flyback design, but I ultimately and reluctantly conceded that no matter what, the Shuttle was going to have been a giant turkey, an enormously expensive technological dead end.

As Jim Baen once said, "The space program reminds me of a government agency."

The lesson of Shuttle is: when attempting something that's never been done before, don't commit the whole program to it right out of the gate. Build one-off operating prototypes and spend a couple of years flying them at a low rate. Learn what the unknown unknowns are. Then maybe build an advanced version.

Meanwhile, the nation careens down the same stupid path with the F-35 fighter as it did with Shuttle. Early, massive, and total commitment to an extremely expensive program, without operational prototypes, that does not do what it says on the tin. Total genius.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 05:28 PM (gqT4g)

93

No shit. Apparently being a cop or a paramedic is the result of poor life choices.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 10:26 PM (GEICT)

 

If you're facing violence daily as a paremedic, unless you do primarily psych transports, you ARE doing it wrong.  That's what the cops are for.

 

--EMT since 2001

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 05:28 PM (sQ0LB)

94 navycopjoe is three sheets to the wind now.

Because the Cubbies lost too?

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 29, 2013 05:28 PM (eawoP)

95 well played, AD. (golf clap)

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 29, 2013 05:28 PM (JMmQ9)

96 >>wow, challenging a CoB, Quoting Goodfellas, I think.

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 05:28 PM (5H6zj)

97 So, we're going to have a shutdown. And the GOP got smart and funded defense separately. Y'know what would really put the Fear-Of-God into the Washington crowd?



The House should pass Continuing Resolutions to fund individual items from Article I, section 8 of the Constitution -- e.g. "We explicitly fund the Department of the Mint and NIST" [from the fifth clause enumerating powers]. Then, make it clear that once the enumerated powers are funded, that's the last of the CRs. No emanations or penumbras allowed. Department of Labor, Department of Education, Department of Energy, EPA, Obamacare, TPAB -- all that can get funded when Hell freezes over.



Then triple-dog-dare the Senate to muck with any of 'em.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 05:29 PM (T1005)

98 At any rate, just going to make your views known can get your thumb bitten off.

Look for the union label.

Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 29, 2013 05:29 PM (9jfyN)

99 Obtuseness - 10 yards. 3rd down. ( WHEEEEET! ) Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 29, 2013 10:28 PM (ligos) Hey! You take that back! I've been told by several girls that I'm acute guy! *runs for cover*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 05:29 PM (GEICT)

100 No shit. Apparently being a cop or a paramedic is the result of poor life choices. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 10:26 PM (GEICT) they are a choice still, right? I'd be cool with no cops, I can handle my own problems

Posted by: alaskan driftwood at September 29, 2013 05:29 PM (yh6zE)

101 If you're facing violence daily as a paremedic, unless you do primarily psych transports, you ARE doing it wrong. That's what the cops are for. --EMT since 2001 Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 10:28 PM (sQ0LB) I didn't mean facing it directly. I meant seeing the results of it, being involved in the aftermath.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 05:30 PM (GEICT)

102 I don;t know how many New Yorkers...or ex-New Yorkers...I've heard say that they actually miss the old, crime-ridden Times Square. It gave the city "character" or something.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 29, 2013 05:30 PM (jSmN1)

103 Hey y'all.

Posted by: Bomber at September 29, 2013 05:30 PM (JzQ+Q)

104 military man.  Not a poor life choice.  Except to John Kerry

Posted by: thunderb at September 29, 2013 05:31 PM (zOTsN)

105
No one steels car radios anymore
Posted by: big al




Out West, they're stealing car mirrors, which are apparently cake to take off and a $1000 part on some models.

And then there's still the old favorites of swiping catalytic converters and siphoning gas.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2013 05:31 PM (kdS6q)

106 103 Hey y'all. Posted by: Bomber at September 29, 2013 10:30 PM (JzQ+Q) Evening good sir.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 05:31 PM (GEICT)

107


I didn't mean facing it directly. I meant seeing the results of it, being involved in the aftermath.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 10:30 PM (GEICT)

 

Well that's a hell of a distinction.  Might have been better to make that clear up front, especially since Maet's point was primarily about direct violence.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 05:31 PM (sQ0LB)

108 http://www.honolulustreetpulse.com/hottie-of-the-week-jerlee-javier/#8815

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 05:33 PM (JaA49)

109 Well that's a hell of a distinction. Might have been better to make that clear up front, especially since Maet's point was primarily about direct violence. Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 10:31 PM (sQ0LB) Maet brought not being in a fight, not seeing a scuffle, not even thinking about it day to day. That is what I was responding to. Lots of people are involved, directly or indirectly, in the violence that's inherent in this world.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 05:33 PM (GEICT)

110 Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 29, 2013 10:30 PM (jSmN1)

I think most New Yorkers miss the Giuliani days, when it was safe, but we weren't told what to do, and the city had character.

Now it feels like Disneyland with the SS doing security.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 29, 2013 05:33 PM (/kU/5)

111 No, it isn't. Violence, either actual or the inherent threat of it, is a part of everyday life whether you realize it or not.
The threat of physical force is what is used to keep law and order. It is civilization. If you take that threat away, then the really bad people WILL commit much worse violence.
If you can't recognize that, perhaps you should rethink your life choices.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 10:21 PM (GEICT)


I think you missed the point of the article and my comment - I'm not talking about police and implied government-sanctioned violence here. I talking about getting punched by Joe Blow in line with you at Target or  a 7-11 parking lot. Or some guy taking offense to one of your tweets and cold-cocking you.

I never see this kind of stuff. Primarily due to life choices I've made (along with a little luck and some non-victim body language).

Guys regularly throwing down over minor insults is not civilization - it's what a lot of civilization's infrastructure is designed to prevent.

Posted by: Mtenloch at September 29, 2013 05:33 PM (XkotV)

112 Bomber - Let's see..., is it Sat Sun or Mon there?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 29, 2013 05:35 PM (aDwsi)

113 And then there's still the old favorites of swiping catalytic converters and siphoning gas.

This is where a close study of Islamic law might come in handy. Need a hand?

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 05:35 PM (d7tB2)

114 Help me think this through people. If I want to make sure my information is private I need to go on the dole and then do something horrific. If I do that then the IRS won't read my medical records, right?

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at September 29, 2013 05:35 PM (9JWX9)

115 before he lost his mind, Dave Chapell used to do these hilarious skits called, "when Keeping It Real Goes Wrong", about getting to violence over trivial slights and insults

Posted by: thunderb at September 29, 2013 05:36 PM (zOTsN)

116 *shrug* My opinion is my opinion. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 10:27 PM Let me be clear, BC; I'm not rootin' against you; I understand your point. There are those who have said "never call out a cob-logger" or something like that. I don't know...

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 29, 2013 05:37 PM (JMmQ9)

117 Posted by: Mætenloch at September 29, 2013 10:33 PM (XkotV) No I got it. I'm disagreeing with it. Violence is a part of everyday life. Actual or implied. You say "non-victim body language". What's that mean? To me it means you carry yourself as someone who is willing, and capable, of fighting back. Violence. That threat of getting punched in the face is what keeps a helluva lot of people from telling Joe Blow to fuck off when they bump into each other or have a minor altercation. The threat of violence prevents greater violence and contributes to general social order. It's a violent world, always has been, always will be.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 05:37 PM (GEICT)

118 If I wanted someone eviscerated on Twitter, I'd just try and hire ace. Hey ace, gimme $500 worth of verbal flaying on so-n-so. It would be worth it.
 
I have a few books of the original Forever stamps from 2007 (41 cents apiece; suck it, Post Office). I rarely mail stuff from home. I'm saving them for when mailing a letter costs $12.
 
It shouldn't be long, now.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 29, 2013 05:37 PM (cHZB7)

119 I was born and raised in the Bronx in the 70's and 80's murder and violence was incredible, Giuliani saved that city. Bill De Blasio will be a one term mayor if he allows that era to return. As an aside my kindle wants to auto correct Blasio to Vladimir. Curious.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 29, 2013 05:37 PM (hmUex)

120 Posted by: alaskan driftwood at September 29, 2013 10:27 PM (yh6zE)


===

curious nic.  care to share any  back story?

Posted by: jc at September 29, 2013 05:38 PM (PlzOe)

121
I think most New Yorkers miss the Giuliani days
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo



Really?  Because my guess would be with NY being a big immigrant and -- um -- relocate-igrant city, a significant portion of the current residents weren't there in the pre-Rudy and Rudy days.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2013 05:38 PM (kdS6q)

122 Well, just hated the way "Breaking Bad" ended. As much writing and talent behind that show that there was......the ending was a complete puss-out. No excitement. No drama. No "bang." Just the whimper. Damn it. Damn it. Damn it.

Posted by: Ricardi Kill at September 29, 2013 05:38 PM (Mn3mu)

123 114 Help me think this through people. If I want to make sure my information is private I need to go on the dole and then do something horrific. If I do that then the IRS won't read my medical records, right? Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at September 29, 2013 10:35 PM (9JWX9) Uh oh....

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 05:38 PM (GEICT)

124 Hey y'all. Posted by: Bomber at September 29, 2013 10:30 PM (JzQ+Q) Hello Bomber, make it smell like victory where you be at.

Posted by: alaskan driftwood at September 29, 2013 05:38 PM (yh6zE)

125 93 No shit. Apparently being a cop or a paramedic is the result of poor life choices.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 10:26 PM (GEICT)

Sigh. Another completely missed point.



Posted by: Mtenloch at September 29, 2013 05:39 PM (XkotV)

126 If I want to make sure my information is private I need to go on the dole and then do something horrific.

Just don't do anything really horrific, like disseminating anti-Democrat propaganda where it might be read.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 05:39 PM (d7tB2)

127 Let me be clear, BC; I'm not rootin' against you; I understand your point. There are those who have said "never call out a cob-logger" or something like that. I don't know... Posted by: AltonJackson at September 29, 2013 10:37 PM (JMmQ9) No, we're good. As for not calling out cobs, well, I think if you disagree with someone you should be able to voice that, no matter who they are. There are, of course, limits.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 05:39 PM (GEICT)

128 Sigh. Another completely missed point. Posted by: Mætenloch at September 29, 2013 10:39 PM (XkotV) Sigh. Another mistaking of "missed" for "disagreed with".

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 05:40 PM (GEICT)

129 The old crime ridden Times Square http://tinyurl.com/kfjcr9z That picture brings back a great memory. In 1979, my brother and I went to see Buck Rogers on a Saturday afternoon. We went to lunch at Flame Steaks as shown there. When we were leaving, there was an ambulance in from of the peep show and I remember an old guy being wheeled out on a stretcher still clutching a roll of quarters. I was only 11 at the time at it wasn't until years later that I realized what was going on.

Posted by: madtechie at September 29, 2013 05:40 PM (Sp5D+)

130 hipster gets owned...ouch.

Posted by: LostSoul at September 29, 2013 05:41 PM (qQk+U)

131 >>> Bomber - Let's see..., is it Sat Sun or Mon there?

Monday morning.

Posted by: Bomber at September 29, 2013 05:41 PM (JzQ+Q)

132 As one who was burned by the endings to "Battlestar Galactica" and "Lost", and by George Martin's failure to figure out how to finish "Game of Thrones" . . .

. . . I expected that "Breaking Bad" might be "Ending Bad"

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 05:41 PM (d7tB2)

133 Dear Breaking Bad, Thanks for not going The Soprano's route. I like my endings to actually end.

Posted by: puddleglum at September 29, 2013 05:41 PM (zznfJ)

134 curious nic. care to share any back story? Posted by: jc at September 29, 2013 10:38 PM (PlzOe) nope, too complicated, plus I'm at that 4 glasses of wine mark. Right at the sweet spot

Posted by: alaskan driftwood at September 29, 2013 05:41 PM (yh6zE)

135 "A friend of mine left a half-eaten burger on the passenger seat while he dashed in to get his dry cleaning. Someone popped the side window. For a half-eaten burger." You think that's bad? When my brother was in high school someone stole his athletic cup from the locker room.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 29, 2013 05:41 PM (/B37E)

136 I talking about getting punched by Joe Blow in line with you at Target or a 7-11 parking lot. Or some guy taking offense to one of your tweets and cold-cocking you.

I never see this kind of stuff.


You must have gone to a better high school than I did.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 29, 2013 05:42 PM (hO8IJ)

137 BC sweetie I'm not sure how to break this to you. Those nice girls from Thailand who told you that you're cute? Aren't girls.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at September 29, 2013 05:42 PM (9JWX9)

138 Somebody probably already asked this, but:

What's India Relish?

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 29, 2013 05:42 PM (T/XcG)

139 130 hipster gets owned...ouch.

Posted by: LostSoul at September 29, 2013 05:42 PM (qQk+U)

140
  Wonder what the victims of knockout or polar bear would contribute to the discussion of violence in everyday life?

Posted by: irongrampa at September 29, 2013 05:43 PM (SAMxH)

141 136 BC sweetie I'm not sure how to break this to you. Those nice girls from Thailand who told you that you're cute? Aren't girls. Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at September 29, 2013 10:42 PM (9JWX9) Hmmm....what about those nice cheerleaders?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 05:43 PM (GEICT)

142 >>> make it smell like victory where you be at.

All out of napalm. 

But it definitely smells like something here.

Posted by: Bomber at September 29, 2013 05:43 PM (JzQ+Q)

143 130 hipster gets owned...ouch.

Posted by: LostSoul at September 29, 2013 05:43 PM (qQk+U)

144 133 130 hipster gets owned...ouch. Posted by: LostSoul at September 29, 2013 10:41 PM (qQk+U) bomber = not a hipster you are new here, it seems

Posted by: alaskan driftwood at September 29, 2013 05:44 PM (yh6zE)

145 Hey irongrampa!  How's the knee?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 05:44 PM (sQ0LB)

146 108 http://www.honolulustreetpulse.com/hottie-of-the-week-jerlee-javier/#8815

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 10:33 PM (JaA49)



Good lord! What kind of a job is it where you can put "Wanna be a Street Pulse hottie? Send your best pictures and contact information to hottie@honolulustreetpulse.com. Applicants must be at least 18 years of age." on the web and be deluged with photos and contact info? Editor of that section must be one of the most sought-after positions in the organization.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 05:44 PM (T1005)

147 When my brother was in high school someone stole his athletic cup from the locker room.

At least your brother had a rep for not having a blistering case of genital warts. So he's got that going for him

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 05:44 PM (d7tB2)

148 114  Gotta make sure they don't think you're a citizen

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 05:44 PM (b7yum)

149 I'm not sure that the NYers miss Rudy so much, they seem to love them some nanny-statin'. They're on the path from the cartoon version of Bloomy to full-blown Marxism. but if they vote for it......doesn't matter to me, not living there and all.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at September 29, 2013 05:45 PM (jSmN1)

150
  India relish is also known as picalilli.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 29, 2013 05:45 PM (SAMxH)

151 My first two visits to New York were 10 years apart - the first in 1990. Flew into Newark and drove over the GW and through the Bronx on our way upstate to my GF's family's place for Christmas. There were literally burned out shells of cars on the side of 95 in the Bronx. It was everything this whitebread, middle-class suburban kid had heard of and feared about New York.

The second was Fleet Week / International Naval Review 2000. It wasn't the same city. You could walk the streets of lower Manhattan without fear, and go to the Bronx for a game and not think too much about it. No car carcasses on 95. That was how much of a difference Guliani and his crew made.

It's like they expect this to go on forever and their policies are only going to make things even better. Or more "fair".

Why do they want to go back to 1990? I thought that was only for the Enviroweenies.

Posted by: Spelling Nerd at September 29, 2013 05:45 PM (ylG8S)

152 *Hmmm....what about those nice cheerleaders? It's a trap!

Posted by: Adm Ackbar at September 29, 2013 05:46 PM (Dsds2)

153 @  142

    Heya, CC--knee is pretty good, exercised it more than I should have, got a bit of soreness after today.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 29, 2013 05:47 PM (SAMxH)

154 So, apparently Jackson, MS has elected a dude named Chokwe Lumumba as mayor. He's a revolutionary black socialist and proud racist who wants to create a new nation -- the Republic of New Afrika - out of the former slave states in the South. Financially backed by Farakkkhan and Nation of Islam. So, yeah, things are going good in black America. Guy campaigned on being a radical black socialist. Guy he beat for the Democrat nomination was a black who headed the Chamber of Commerce. But they called him an Uncle Tom and he lost. He basically wants a black Aztlan carved out of the Deep South. And he's now mayor of the largest city in Mississippi.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 05:47 PM (ZPrif)

155 I remember seeing the 'no radio' signs in cars when I did the lights for Mr. Paul Anka. We played at the Uris Theater and stayed at the President Hotel.

We were there twice. The first time we went, there was a musician strike and we never actually put on a show.

The other light dude and I did the Circle Line Tour, the Hayden Planetarium and got a tattoo.

Good times.

Posted by: Retired Geezer at September 29, 2013 05:47 PM (7xShT)

156 Gateway Pundit had the story about the Jackson, MS fucked-upness.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 05:47 PM (ZPrif)

157 Hmmm....what about those nice cheerleaders? I believe the proper term is yell leaders not cheerleaders.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at September 29, 2013 05:48 PM (9JWX9)

158 I'm really liking the Sinatra burger at the link.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 05:49 PM (T1005)

159 Monday morning. Posted by: Bomber ----------- Bummer, Bomber. Sorry. Could not resist the alliteration.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 29, 2013 05:49 PM (aDwsi)

160 96 >>wow, challenging a CoB,

Quoting Goodfellas, I think. Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 10:28 PM

Ding! Ding! Ding! Winner!


Posted by: kbdabear at September 29, 2013 05:49 PM (aTXUx)

161 New York was prepared to completely go back on all the progress Giuliani had made in 2001, but then 9/11 happened, and that swept Bloomberg into office. The thing about the city is that as left-wing as it has been, there was always a sturdy, working class ethos in places like Queens and parts of Brooklyn that kept the city somewhat sane. Even when you had Dems in office it was guys like Koch, who was hardly a limosine liberal. I feel like that ethos has been completely vanquished, and now the hipster set has joined in with the Manhattan set to take NYC down back into the gutter.

Posted by: Paul Zummo at September 29, 2013 05:49 PM (caPl0)

162 Violence is a part of everyday life. Actual or implied. You say "non-victim body language". What's that mean? To me it means you carry yourself as someone who is willing, and capable, of fighting back. Violence.

Capable of fighting back != violence. Being prepared to defend yourself != violence. I'm talking about actual physical altercations here - not something implied.

That threat of getting punched in the face is what keeps a helluva lot of people from telling Joe Blow to fuck off when they bump into each other or have a minor altercation.
The threat of violence prevents greater violence and contributes to general social order. It's a violent world, always has been, always will be.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at September 29, 2013 10:37 PM (GEICT)


Again the conditional threat of getting punched != violence. Here I'm referring to actual instantiated violent acts - not threats, menace, or implied physical harm.

Posted by: Mtenloch at September 29, 2013 05:49 PM (XkotV)

163 Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at September 29, 2013 10:48 PM (9JWX9) False as yell leaders don't wear the awesome outfits that cheerleaders wear

Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 05:49 PM (vJdyz)

164

@bcochran,

I'd note that entertainers sort of open themselves to criticism of such a sort. Am I no longer allowed to say "Ryan Reynolds is a sucky actor" unless I'm willing to take a punch for it?

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) (tablet) at September 29, 2013 05:50 PM (GaqMa)

165 Sweet baby Jesus what a great day. The Browns beat the Bengals and the Indians clinched home field wild card!!!!

Posted by: simplemind at September 29, 2013 05:50 PM (BmWNr)

166
The romance of urban decay, set to music.

The title sequence from the 1982 movie Vice Squad featuring the song "Neon Slime".  Starring -- and sung by -- the great Wings Hauser.

http://youtu.be/Vk9Ap_Zfrl8

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2013 05:50 PM (kdS6q)

167 152 Flatbush Joe @10:47,

Yup the GOP is the problem.

Not the media, and not the Donkey Party.

Actually there's some truth to that though, only the GOP could be so feckless not to make gains on such things.

Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 29, 2013 05:51 PM (9jfyN)

168 New York was prepared to completely go back on all the progress Giuliani had made in 2001, but then 9/11 happened, and that swept Bloomberg into office. The thing about the city is that as left-wing as it has been, there was always a sturdy, working class ethos in places like Queens and parts of Brooklyn that kept the city somewhat sane. Even when you had Dems in office it was guys like Koch, who was hardly a limosine liberal. I feel like that ethos has been completely vanquished, and now the hipster set has joined in with the Manhattan set to take NYC down back into the gutter. >>>I'm a New Yorker and I agree 100%. I'm also ok with it. I have my own plans in place to be secure but if the rest of the scum in this city suffer....so be it. They voted for it.

Posted by: trump at September 29, 2013 05:51 PM (FbbJc)

169 Don't get they get a retroactive paycheck when the money starts flowing again? Posted by: HeatherRadish™ That was why my mother and many of my aunts just hated the teachers unions even though their husbands belonged to the UAW, Teamsters, etc. When a factory worker is on strike for a month, that pay is gone forever. They can't make up the work days that they missed. That's fine, because those are the rules they play by. Both management and workers suffer losses. My brothers and some of my cousins attended schools where teachers struck in the 70's and 80's. The teachers would be on strike at the beginning of the school year, then just work into the summer to make up the time lost. They never actually lost any pay. They always ended up getting their entire yearly salary. They could strike without making the sacrifices that other union members made.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 29, 2013 05:52 PM (/B37E)

170 Sweet baby Jesus what a great day. The Browns beat the Bengals and the Indians clinched home field wild card!!!! *fistbump*

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at September 29, 2013 05:52 PM (9JWX9)

171 You may not be interested in violence, but violence is interested in YOU

Posted by: Leon Trotsky at September 29, 2013 05:52 PM (aTXUx)

172 You know, it's Weiner's fault De Blasio will get elected.

Which means it's Huma's fault, and then Hillary's fault.

The long hand of the progressive destruction machine.

Posted by: PJ at September 29, 2013 05:53 PM (ZWaLo)

173 @159 If it slides it will only slide for a very short time. Giuliani was elected for a reason. Even liberal ass clowns don't like to be mugged.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 29, 2013 05:53 PM (hmUex)

174 huh? I didn't say anything about the GOP. I was talking about the new racist, socialist, black Dem mayor of Jackson, MS.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 05:53 PM (ZPrif)

175 My favorite Craigslist personal of the day: I don't have a personality, so I pretend I'm Charles Grey - 30 (Greenwich Village) No original thoughts, no creative spark, no hope but to trick a woman into noticing I exist. My posts read like a 12-year-old wearing Daddy's smoking jacket and pretending I'm a grownup. If I were half the alpha male my posts portray, I could reach out and capture the attention of almost any woman in the real world. But you find me here on cl on a Sunday night, along with 68 other identical poseurs, stealing phrases and sentences verbatim from books written by a woman. The false bravado of my cl postings marks me as an omega, hoping to crawl as high as gamma or delta. Plus, my spelling is pathetic. I'm so colorless, I aspire to gray. Tepid, flavorless, derivative, shallow, predictable, impotent. That's the guy you've been waiting for all your life, no?

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at September 29, 2013 05:54 PM (a5ljo)

176 I don't think the GOP has much say over who is mayor of 80% black Jackson, MS.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 05:55 PM (ZPrif)

177 If it slides it will only slide for a very short time. I hope so. I'd be more inclined to say "let it burn" if my family still wasn't still there.

Posted by: Paul Zummo at September 29, 2013 05:55 PM (caPl0)

178 Never thought I'd be in admiration of an actress who starred in "Clueless": CONSERVATIVE ACTRESS THROWS DOWN AGAIN: OBAMA ADMIN ‘BUNCH OF BULLIES’ WHO ARE ‘OUT OF TOUCH’ http://tinyurl.com/l7nqpku

Posted by: Thrawn at September 29, 2013 05:56 PM (Dsds2)

179 172 Flatbush Joe, @ 10:53,

Forgive me, I crossed the meme streams.  Twitter has #ShutdownTheGOP, and Jackhole MS is sort of a Metaphor for America these days.  Main difference I see is a closet, and a watch.

Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 29, 2013 05:57 PM (9jfyN)

180 BCochran is arguing from Heinlein. He is saying that "being prepared" is violence. Someone might call you on that "being prepared" thing - and if so, it's best you were actually prepared.

tsrblke: Am I no longer allowed to say "RyanReynolds is a sucky actor" unless I'm willing to take a punch for it? - well, no, you're not; not if you're hanging around the Ryan Reynolds Fan Club HQ. If for some reason you do find yourself with a burning need to insult their idol to their face - I assume you'll have a good reason for it - you'll need to prepare yourself for the repercussions.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 05:57 PM (d7tB2)

181 If it slides it will only slide for a very short time.

Giuliani was elected for a reason. Even liberal ass clowns don't like to be mugged. Posted by: Kreplach at September 29, 2013 10:53 PM

NYers who elected Rudy knew the horrors of the leftist policies and politicians

NYers who elected DeBlasio never knew that, think that a socialist government can keep what they have and throw in unicorns and skittles for free

Posted by: kbdabear at September 29, 2013 05:57 PM (aTXUx)

182
If it slides it will only slide for a very short time.
Posted by: Kreplach




About that...

Posted by: Detroit


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2013 05:58 PM (kdS6q)

183 Bah, forgot about Once Upon A Time started tonight

Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 05:59 PM (vJdyz)

184 God Detroit is a nightmare. I hate their baseball team too.

Posted by: simplemind at September 29, 2013 05:59 PM (BmWNr)

185 Re: Breaking Bad finale. Stevia PR dept has to be pissed. I liked it, tied up all the loose ends.

Posted by: mpfs at September 29, 2013 06:00 PM (8V7ZZ)

186 Stacey Dash is teh hotness . In more ways than one.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet) at September 29, 2013 06:00 PM (jSmN1)

187   Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 10:33 PM (JaA49)


Grats on sneaking back on the top 10 list, delivering your goods to Morons worldwide. 

How goes the second Amazon project?  Submitted and waiting for your $10k check?  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 29, 2013 06:00 PM (0wHyk)

188 Remember if you downloaded the dark sky meter app to take multiple readings if you're using it tonight.

Posted by: CAC at September 29, 2013 06:00 PM (nas+Y)

189 The fed gubmint shutdowns that I can recall all resulted in the employees getting full back pay for the days missed, even if they were in non-critical jobs and didn't work during the shutdown.
 
In other words, free vacations for nearly everyone!
 
Does anyone really think it will be different this time, in these oh so liberal days?

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 29, 2013 06:00 PM (cHZB7)

190 Jackson, MS has elected a dude named Chokwe Lumumba as mayor. From, Gateway Pundit: "Jackson Mayor Chokwe Lumumba, born in Detroit as Edwin Finley Taliaferro, ... ... Taliaferro ... Italian? continuing: ... Despite what could be considered an overpowering victory, Jackson’s business owners are extremely concerned with Lumumba’s proposals for the city. One of Lumumba’s primary goals as mayor of Jackson is to create a “solidarity economy” in the city. According to a report published by the Belfast Telegraph, a solidarity economy is an “umbrella term used to describe a wide variety of alternative economic activities, including worker-owned co-operatives, co-operative banks, peer lending, community land trusts, participatory budgeting and fair trade.” Short version: "Chokwe Lumumba" (sounds like a pr0n name) is going to give Jackson Mississippi The Detroit Way ... real hard ...

Posted by: Arbalest at September 29, 2013 06:00 PM (FlRtG)

191 You may not be interested in violence, but violence is interested in YOU Posted by: Leon Trotsky at September 29, 2013 10:52 PM (aTXUx) Why, hello there!

Posted by: A completely non-violent icepick at September 29, 2013 06:01 PM (Vk2pI)

192 180 Laurie David'sCervix™@10:58,

don't forget us, Atlanta, Columbia, Jacksonville, DC, N'walins....

Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 29, 2013 06:01 PM (9jfyN)

193 If it slides it will only slide for a very short time.
Posted by: Kreplach

There were still the blue collar Reagan Democrat types in outer boroughs back in 93

Quite a few of them have moved away now.

Los Angeles once had a Republican mayor as recently as the 90s

You'll never see that again

Posted by: kbdabear at September 29, 2013 06:01 PM (aTXUx)

194 @180 New York is not Detroit. It's the media and financial capital of the world. Trust me, if the nightly news crime blotter even approaches a 10th of what it was pre-Giuliani, de blasio s head will roll.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 29, 2013 06:02 PM (hmUex)

195
   We are seeing some of the shit that infests NYC crawl upstate into my North Country, in the form of drugs.

  Not yet a large problem, but it's growing. The highway system facilitates this enormously. 

   In my county, the police are hardnosed about it big time. No mercy at all.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 29, 2013 06:02 PM (SAMxH)

196 183 Re: Breaking Bad finale. Stevia PR dept has to be pissed. I liked it, tied up all the loose ends. Posted by: mpfs at September 29, 2013 11:00 PM (8V7ZZ) Stevia is just the product, not a company. It's just a generic name ( I grow some in my herb garden)

Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 06:03 PM (vJdyz)

197 192 Kreplach@ 11:02,

trust us it ain't getting reported...

Chuck Tard and MSLSD

Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 29, 2013 06:03 PM (9jfyN)

198 We are re-living a very bad replay of the mid to late 70's.  Shitty times indeed.  I don't see or hear a Ronald Reagan on the horizon though.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at September 29, 2013 06:04 PM (jucos)

199 I'm pretty sure that forever stamp thing isn't gonna work out. They'll just declare that they're not forever, anymore, and put an arbitrary price on them. You know how they are.

Posted by: Kalneva at September 29, 2013 06:04 PM (XyrkB)

200 Send your best pictures and contact information to hottie@honolulustreetpulse.com
Now we know where Navy Cop Joe is.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 29, 2013 06:04 PM (qnPg9)

201 Gonna be reeeal interesting to see how Boulder / Broomfield / Superior crime looks when the 36 is widened (as they're doing now).

The 36 is already Hobo Highway.

My guess? Boulder will do okay. The thugs will drop off the bus at L'ville and B'field.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 06:05 PM (d7tB2)

202 194 183 Re: Breaking Bad finale. Stevia PR dept has to be pissed.

I liked it, tied up all the loose ends.
Posted by: mpfs at September 29, 2013 11:00 PM (8V7ZZ)


Stevia is just the product, not a company. It's just a generic name ( I grow some in my herb garden)

Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 11:03 PM (vJdyz)



It's a plant!

Posted by: Admiral Plantbar at September 29, 2013 06:05 PM (T1005)

203 178 BCochran is arguing from Heinlein. He is saying that "being prepared" is violence. Someone might call you on that "being prepared" thing - and if so, it's best you were actually prepared.

Well then without knowing more context I would say that Heinlein is wrong. Or twisting the meaning of 'violence' far beyond its standard usage.

If walking around while carrying a concealed weapon or merely knowing karate is 'violence', then the term has little meaning. Knowing judo or getting mugged and beaten are both the same: violence.

Posted by: Mtenloch at September 29, 2013 06:05 PM (XkotV)

204 Remember here in la breaking bad hasn't even started yet

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 06:05 PM (b7yum)

205 Yeah, sounds like wants to go full Detroit, but with more overt anti-white racism. That's really gonna attract industry and jobs to Jackson, MS -- cause there are so many awesome things about Jackson keeping jobs and people there.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 06:06 PM (ZPrif)

206 198 Send your best pictures and contact information to hottie@honolulustreetpulse.com
Now we know where Navy Cop Joe is.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 29, 2013 11:04 PM (qnPg9)



Or, if he isn't, where he should be.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 06:06 PM (T1005)

207 God Detroit is a nightmare. I hate their baseball team too. Posted by: simplemind ---------------- Can't be. Obama just sent $100 million in 'grants', and four top aides. Top.Aides. Got it? He is going to work the Obama magic on that city.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 29, 2013 06:06 PM (aDwsi)

208 @196 Ted Cruz is the embodiment of Ronald Reagan. Go watch, "the speech" and tell me you can't envision Cruz delivering a stem winder like that. Hell, Cruz seems to be directly influencing the house.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 29, 2013 06:07 PM (hmUex)

209 "now the hipster set has joined in with the Manhattan set to take NYC down back into the gutter."

The rest of us should be ready to help!

Democrats constantly excoriate the GOP for "blocking needed revenue". Where "revenue", of course, means "taxes".

The House GOP needs to, as part of debt ceiling negotiations, be ready to answer that criticism. By putting on the table a fat package of tax hikes. Very regrettably and sorrowfully agreed to tax hikes, you understand. Only at the insistence of the Democrats on new "revenue" were these measures put forth.

Tax hikes to include reaming the fuck out of Google and Facebook over their tens of billions in overseas tax-sheltered revenue. Tax hikes to include tearing Hollyweird's spine out of its body with a fat new excise tax on entertainment. Tax hikes to include taking away the home mortgage interest tax deduction, which overwhelmingly benefits two states, New York and California.

And, tax hikes to include repealing the grossly unfair way in which zillionaire hedge fund managers in New York get to treat all of their income as "capital gains" for federal income tax purposes.

Expect the entire New York congressional delegation to shit themselves in abject fear over that last part. Upchuck Schumer hardest hit.

Seriously, the House GOP needs to send this sort of stuff over and dare the Democrats to veto or otherwise reject it. And if the Democrats do reject it, which they will, that's just fodder for the next cycle's campaign ads.

"They want new taxes. They just don't want to pay those new taxes themselves."

Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 06:07 PM (gqT4g)

210 202 That's a shame.....

Posted by: mpfs at September 29, 2013 06:08 PM (8V7ZZ)

211 BTW, where did Delta Smelt go these last few months??? Should have been around - the feds are ensuring that not a lot of delta water is going south, so it's not like water quality is being affected...

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at September 29, 2013 06:08 PM (/IXKu)

212 Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 11:06 PM (T1005) Give it 6-7 years and maybe his daughter will be featured

Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 06:08 PM (vJdyz)

213 Los Angeles once had a Republican mayor as recently as the 90s 2001. You'll never see that again Posted by: kbdabear at September 29, 2013 11:01 PM (aTXUx) Riordan was actually a decent mayor. L.A. was on it's way down, but the insanity was retarded a bit. Even Hahn (A Dem) wasn't too bad. Antonio Villaragossa (AKA Tony Villar) was the straw that broke the camels back. L.A. used to be a nice place. It was spread out with affordable housing, beautiful weather, and a healthy and varied economy. Right up until the '90's there were places in and around L.A. that were good places to live. Not anymore. Never again.

Posted by: El Sombrero Nuestra Senora la Reina de los Angeles de Porciuncula at September 29, 2013 06:08 PM (Vk2pI)

214 Julio Jones isn't doing much for me tonight.

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2013 06:09 PM (5H6zj)

215 205 Mike Hammer@11:06,

Sidam the Malignant is on the case.

Preznit Urkle X

Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 29, 2013 06:09 PM (9jfyN)

216 Breaking Bad spoiler. Saul is managing a Cinnabon in Omaha.

Posted by: mpfs at September 29, 2013 06:09 PM (8V7ZZ)

217 I'm pretty sure that making a meatloaf is not the same as making a burger.

Posted by: Fritz at September 29, 2013 06:09 PM (x2W/k)

218 And if the Democrats do reject it, which they will, that's just fodder for the next cycle's campaign ads. Problem is, the Republicans are too gutless to capitalize on such a windfall.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at September 29, 2013 06:09 PM (/IXKu)

219 You know, it's Weiner's fault De Blasio will get elected.
Which means it's Huma's fault, and then Hillary's fault.
The long hand of the progressive destruction machine.

It's dick degrees of separation.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 29, 2013 06:10 PM (qnPg9)

220 Shit, forgot to mention that the Battlefield 4 beta starts tomorrow

Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 06:10 PM (vJdyz)

221 The pending election of DiBlasio and the possibility of the return of street crime could be a lesser problem than the other big shoe to drop. DiBlasio will undoubtedly raise taxes a whole bunch on the "very rich" who already carry a disproportionate burden in financing NYC. He will grab for wealth the way every collectivist always does, "for the people" , meaning to buy power for himself. This is the most wealthy fraction of NYC, the banking, finance and investment business ("Wall Street", evil banksters!). For a very long time, these guys wanted to physically be in NYC. This is no longer necessary. DiBlasio does what can be expected, and NYC will have a lot more irreversible problems than vandalism and muggings. He will financially break the City, and there will be no coming back from that, when the golden geese flee Manhatten.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at September 29, 2013 06:10 PM (v6hyJ)

222 L.A. used to be a nice place. It was spread out with affordable housing, beautiful weather, and a healthy and varied economy. Right up until the '90's there were places in and around L.A. that were good places to live. But I was informed by Bill Maher that California was a socialist paradise. You don't mean to tell me that I have been misinformed by Bill Maher? My world is shattered.

Posted by: Paul Zummo at September 29, 2013 06:11 PM (caPl0)

223 Remember if you downloaded the dark sky meter app to take multiple readings if you're using it tonight. Posted by: CAC --------------- Pretty sure I'm going to have to download an iPhone too.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 29, 2013 06:11 PM (aDwsi)

224 Right up until the '90's there were places in and around L.A. that were good places to live. Not anymore. Depends on what you mean by “in and around”. Yucaipa seems pretty nice. If I were willing to stay in California, I’d have seriously looked at it instead of Texas.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 29, 2013 06:12 PM (CeNUw)

225 Surprisingly, the economic research on "clustering" (is finance in NYC, movies in LA, silicon valley, etc) have shown that, if anything, the IT revolution has increased the returns to clustering. People keep saying modern comms and IT mean companies can set up shop anywhere. But they keep moving to cities where the industry clusters.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 06:13 PM (ZPrif)

226

And I'm back.  Damn pay internet can't load more than about 140 comments today.

 

Posted by: Bomber at September 29, 2013 06:13 PM (4Mwv/)

227

I'm curious as to what the level of dark sky is where I live.  On most nights, if I turn off the outside floods and the moon is not up, I can just make out the Milky Way, less than 20 miles from downtown Columbus, OH.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 06:13 PM (sQ0LB)

228 @219 That is when they decide walls at the border are a good thing. Escape From NY!

Posted by: Beagle at September 29, 2013 06:14 PM (sOtz/)

229 Tokyo Game Show booth babes http://tinyurl.com/kedhbnm Ads at link are NSFW

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at September 29, 2013 06:14 PM (Vk2pI)

230
    Patriots look to clinch a win over Atlanta, 30-13.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 29, 2013 06:15 PM (SAMxH)

231 People keep saying modern comms and IT mean companies can set up shop anywhere. But they keep moving to cities where the industry clusters.

Yep. That is why I moved to Boulder instead of, say, Leadville. Employers like you to be at the office.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 06:15 PM (d7tB2)

232 Breaking Bad spoiler: It doesn't show if the top stops spinning at the end.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 29, 2013 06:15 PM (Dsds2)

233 What types of businesses will cluster in Jackson, MS?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 29, 2013 06:15 PM (Rla3K)

234 New York City is going back to the 70's but with a shittier soundtrack this time around.

Posted by: madtechie at September 29, 2013 06:16 PM (Sp5D+)

235 I thought we were arguing from Heiniekan

Posted by: thunderb at September 29, 2013 06:16 PM (zOTsN)

236 That is when they decide walls at the border are a good thing. Escape From NY!

Internal passports, FTW! Papers, please.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 06:16 PM (d7tB2)

237 What types of businesses will cluster in Jackson, MS?

Payday loan, pawn, strip joints... sky's the limit

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 06:17 PM (d7tB2)

238 Pretty sure I'm going to have to download an iPhone too. Posted by: Mike Hammer Processing ...

Posted by: Matter Replicator [/i] [/b] at September 29, 2013 06:17 PM (ligos)

239 Breaking Bad spoiler:

Dr. Sam Beckett never returned home.

Posted by: AD at September 29, 2013 06:17 PM (NmpZu)

240 Even Hahn (A Dem) wasn't too bad. Posted by: El Sombrero Nuestra Senora la Reina de los Angeles de Porciuncula at September 29, 2013 11:08 PM (Vk2pI) Hahn was dumb as shit and a party hack. He came close to being indicted a few times and he slithered out of it.

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at September 29, 2013 06:17 PM (T0Pku)

241 What types of businesses will cluster in Jackson, MS? Posted by: Bertram Cabot ----------------------- Non-profits. Probably Obamacare Facilitators.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 29, 2013 06:17 PM (aDwsi)

242 I won't go within 50 miles of NYC.  Always bypass it when driving even if it adds hours to the trip.

Too many bad memories as a little kid visiting relatives there in the Bronx. 

Only been there once in like the past 20 years to give a deposition in a Microsoft lawsuit.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 06:17 PM (9MLX+)

243 remember when libtards were complaining they missed Times Square 70's grittiness, with hookers and drug dealers? 

Posted by: thunderb at September 29, 2013 06:17 PM (zOTsN)

244 >>>Remember here in la breaking bad hasn't even started yet

Well, lemme just say, you're gonna love when Walt throws Todd into the volcano.

Posted by: some kind of weasel at September 29, 2013 06:18 PM (H0a0l)

245 "Too many bad memories as a little kid visiting relatives there in the Bronx. " That was you?????????

Posted by: madtechie at September 29, 2013 06:18 PM (Sp5D+)

246 #225 I'm curious about your spot. I got just under a mag 6 reading at the north end of my city (which bye is one of the few nice places left in the Inland Empire), zenith was quite dark. SQR of about 19.4 up there.

Posted by: CAC at September 29, 2013 06:18 PM (nas+Y)

247 Breaking bad spoiler: Walt has been dead the entire time and he's really in his own personal Hell.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 29, 2013 06:19 PM (Dsds2)

248 He basically wants a black Aztlan carved out of the Deep South. And he's now mayor of the largest city in Mississippi. Posted by: Flatbush Joe I suppose the peeps from Detroit can go down there and advise them on how to govern their black Aztlan.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 29, 2013 06:20 PM (/B37E)

249 Saw a pic of Senor Lambada, black radical mayor of Jackson, MS. So funny that so many black radicals have the complexion of an Italian during summer. It's like the typical NAACP leader. Avg Italian American Pride parade has more melanin than these racist Black Power idiots.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 06:20 PM (ZPrif)

250 Why is it that every time I go into space, my shit turns orange?

Posted by: An Astronaut at September 29, 2013 06:21 PM (FMNSK)

251 Who's got the suicide watch on NCJ?


Drive-by comment, have to go back to work now, but I'd just like to say...



DA BEARS! 3 and O-shit...eaten by the Lions...



Catch you on the lunch break roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 29, 2013 06:21 PM (xa1/W)

252

239 What types of businesses will cluster in Jackson, MS?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot
-----------------------

 

Gov't cheese distribution center

Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 06:22 PM (KDUNf)

253
Great war pr0n at Jawa Report:

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/216974.php

Two down with one shot. The first guy just had to get a better look. Cost him a chunk of his head.

Posted by: Ed Anger at September 29, 2013 06:22 PM (tOkJB)

254 Breaking Bad Spoiler:

Hank runs into a friendly fella with a crossbow while roaming around a prison somewhere in Georgia.

Posted by: some kind of weasel at September 29, 2013 06:23 PM (H0a0l)

255

No, we'll put up virtual walls.  Those are even better!  And we could use virtual Secret Service protection for Obama too, I'm certain there would be no problems with that. *headdesk*

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 06:23 PM (sQ0LB)

256 Damn it! I just got a call from the rehab my brother is in. I won’t bore you all with the entire thing but he’s been in the hospital in Maine since March 30, it started as infections. They infection, strep was everywhere. It took 19 days for them to realize it was in his cervical canal, neck, and they had to remove several discs. He lost his leg movement. He can use left arm okay and right limitedly. He has had repeated fevers and has been in a rehab since late April. I live in MA. He had high fever 2 1/2 weeks ago, they called me at 4:11 or 4:43

Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2013 06:23 PM (z4WKX)

257 Tax hikes to include tearing Hollyweird's spine out of its body with a fat new excise tax on entertainment.

Sufficient here to overhaul copyright law. Which was already draughted up by some Republicans!

http://news.firedoglake.com/2012/11/18/ republicans-take-down-anti-corporate-copyright-law- paper-within-24-hours-of-publication/

[remove spaces; sorry, I don't like tinyurl, and I don't want people thinking I'm linking gay porn in here. #twoweeks]

The bad news is, the actual Republican Party we got isn't really interested in doing the right thing, improving the economy or, er, winning elections.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 06:23 PM (d7tB2)

258 CarolT holy shit.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 06:24 PM (d7tB2)

259 FrontPage is covering it: Leader of Black Communist Terrorist Group Elected Mayor of Jackson, Mississippi

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 06:24 PM (ZPrif)

260 Jack Black sings the national anthem and it's not half bad: http://tinyurl.com/k7thk8j

Posted by: sinalco at September 29, 2013 06:24 PM (7580N)

261 245 Breaking bad spoiler:

Walt has been dead the entire time and he's really in his own personal Hell.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 29, 2013 11:19 PM (Dsds2)



Breaking Bad spoiler -- Walt is actually John McCain's wish-fulfillment avatar in an extended hallucination when, during his presidential campaign, he realized that Sarah Palin was more popular than he was.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 06:24 PM (T1005)

262 KAYLEE: Shepherd Book said they was men who just... reached the edge of space, saw a vasty nothingness... and went bibbledy over it.

JAYNE
: Oh, hell. I've been to the edge. Just looked like more space.

Posted by: Captain Malcolm 'Mal' Reynolds at September 29, 2013 06:24 PM (e8kgV)

263
Breaking bad spoiler:




Rudy gets to play in the last game and sacks the quarterback.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2013 06:24 PM (kdS6q)

264 FrontPage: Marxists from all over the U.S. traveled to Jackson in the final weeks of the campaign to push Lumumba over the top. Already, Mayor Lumumba has appointed a bona fide communist to this transition team – Bill Chandler, Executive Director of the very influential Mississippi Immigrant Rights Alliance. Chandler is a veteran of Cesar Chavez‘s United Farm Workers, he is a former Communist Party USA affiliate and was recently a member of the National Coordinating Committee of Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism, a Communist Party splinter group. Given his radical background, it’s not surprising that Lumumba was also backed by the ultra-radical African People’s Socialist Party, a Maoist group which dreams of black-led revolution in the most “oppressive” nation in the world, the United States of America.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 06:25 PM (ZPrif)

265 CAC, if you have an Ohio map, I live just off US 33 about halfway between Columbus and Lancaster.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 06:26 PM (sQ0LB)

266 244 Are you around La Verne?

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 06:26 PM (b7yum)

267 Paul was sent back to the rehab late Friday. He left me a VM that he was tired. I called him yesterday and he said he just woke up and would call me later. I just got a call from rehab that his fever is 104.5 and they are sending him to the ER again! I don’t think they ever killed the initial strep infections. He was in the hospital from September 11-September 27. I didn’t ask when his fever started today because nurse said she was gong to call ambulance as soon as she hung up with me. I thanked her and told her to go call & I would call ER in an hour or so.

Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2013 06:27 PM (z4WKX)

268 Carol T,

Thoughts&prayers.


Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 29, 2013 06:27 PM (9jfyN)

269 He will financially break the City, and there will be no coming back from that, when the golden geese flee Manhatten.
Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at September 29, 2013 11:10 PM (v6hyJ)

Will they go to Hooterville?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 29, 2013 06:27 PM (Rla3K)

270 African People’s Socialist Party, a Maoist group which dreams of black-led revolution in the most “oppressive” nation in the world, the United States of America. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 11:25 PM (ZPrif) Since I oppose these guys they will call me a Nazi(or National Socialist) since I'm white. The irony drips with these fucko's

Posted by: alaskan driftwood at September 29, 2013 06:27 PM (yh6zE)

271 Walt has been dead the entire time and he's really in his own personal Hell.
But he gets out after eating onion rings as Communion wafers.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 29, 2013 06:28 PM (qnPg9)

272 CarolT - I'm without words. It all truly sucks. Prayers for your brother, and you.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at September 29, 2013 06:28 PM (aDwsi)

273 Of course that was a ridiculous explanation, for the Reavers, the irony about Whedon, as was shown during the campaign, that he doesn't understand his own work,

Posted by: Jeffrey Pelt at September 29, 2013 06:28 PM (Jsiw/)

274 I have this recommendation for Mississippi's government: immediately move the capital to a different city. The far north, preferably.

The legislators are at serious risk of Alinsky tactics, or actual Maet-defined literal violence if they convene in a place under the control of this mayor.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 06:29 PM (d7tB2)

275 "People keep saying modern comms and IT mean companies can set up shop anywhere. But they keep moving to cities where the industry clusters."

Yep. That's the same basic argument behind why the Sears Corporation (at the time America's largest retailer) built their eponymous tower in Shitcargo, Illinois. Because it was the place to be if you were somebody, and Sears was certainly the somebody of somebodies.

Meanwhile, some pathetic nobodies that no one who mattered had ever heard of, who thought they might one day be big in retail (hah!) were setting up shop in The Skinny Ass End Of Nowheresville, a.k.a. Bentonville, Arkansas.

Those folks at Sears certainly showed the unknown upstarts who was boss.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 06:31 PM (gqT4g)

276 Of course that was a ridiculous explanation, for the Reavers, the irony about Whedon, as was shown during the campaign, that he doesn't understand his own work,

I liked the idea of space driving some men mad.  It fit with the notion that this was not a safe, sanitized universe.  The problem was that the Reavers never really worked.  A hyperviolent group of savages that also manages to operate starships always struck me as silly. 

Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 29, 2013 06:31 PM (lr3d7)

277 Will they go to Hooterville? Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. I was in Connecticut a few years ago, and driving by a big complex that was built by Bear Stearns ( in ~ 2006) that was going to be their "state of the art" bond trading house. Of course, it's just empty and idle now. I think a lot of the big traders and their paychecks will initially go somewhere close, like Connecticut, but sooner or later they will cluster in another big city with favorable tax rates. Bloomberg knew better than to drive them out. DiBlasio is a looter who just doesn't care.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at September 29, 2013 06:31 PM (v6hyJ)

278 I wouldn't worry too much about that Jackson mayor.  He'll turn out to be so corrupt after a couple of years that even Holder's FBI will be arresting him.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 06:32 PM (9MLX+)

279 Can't be. Obama just sent $100 million in 'grants', and four top aides. Top.Aides. Got it? He is going to work the Obama magic on that city. Posted by: Mike Hammer The headlines I saw said it was $300 million. I didn't read the actual stories though.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 29, 2013 06:32 PM (/B37E)

280 Breaking Bad Spoiler

Walt is actually Jesse's alter ego.  Jesse finally beats Walt by pointing a gun to his head and shooting the part Walt inhabits.  He also gets Helena Bonham Carter, who is a knockout at the time and a freak in bed.

Posted by: AD at September 29, 2013 06:32 PM (NmpZu)

281 Breaking Bad spoiler. Walter White does like Funyuns.

Posted by: mpfs at September 29, 2013 06:33 PM (8V7ZZ)

282 Northern Mississippi is very conservative. Too bad they're stuck between Jackson and memphis. Jackson is just a drive through on I55 on the way south.

Posted by: Gidget at September 29, 2013 06:34 PM (tfg7i)

283 "A hyperviolent group of savages that also manages to operate starships always struck me as silly."

Same with Klingons, how did they get more technically advanced then us or even the Vulcans?

Posted by: lowandslow at September 29, 2013 06:34 PM (APJIX)

284 torque, you gave a single anecdote, not very convincing. Check out marginal revolution. Tyler Cowen has covered some of the actual economic research on clustering a # of times. There's a fairly large body of work.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 06:34 PM (ZPrif)

285 278  Lemme guess: walt gets stranded on a desert island and falls in love with a volleyball

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 06:34 PM (b7yum)

286 275 Will they go to Hooterville?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.

I was in Connecticut a few years ago, and driving by a big complex that was built by Bear Stearns ( in ~ 2006) that was going to be their "state of the art" bond trading house. Of course, it's just empty and idle now.

I think a lot of the big traders and their paychecks will initially go somewhere close, like Connecticut, but sooner or later they will cluster in another big city with favorable tax rates.



Hi there!

Posted by: Houston at September 29, 2013 06:35 PM (NmpZu)

287 263 CAC, if you have an Ohio map, I live just off US 33 about halfway between Columbus and Lancaster. Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 11:26 PM (sQ0LB) Decent skies in that part of the Midwest. 264 244 Are you aroundLa Verne? Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 11:26 PM (b7yum) Rancho Cucamonga. I love my stupidly named town.

Posted by: CAC at September 29, 2013 06:35 PM (nas+Y)

288 283  walt is turning a pot and hank's ghost comes to help him and dance with him

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 06:36 PM (b7yum)

289 Or north. Just get the hell out

Posted by: Gidget at September 29, 2013 06:36 PM (tfg7i)

290 Breaking Bad spoiler. Walter White is the one armed man.

Posted by: mpfs at September 29, 2013 06:37 PM (8V7ZZ)

291 The problem was that the Reavers never really worked. A hyperviolent group of savages that also manages to operate starships always struck me as silly.

I assume there's a caste system. An elite of depraved but effective psychopaths; but we only get to meet the drones.

A similar dynamic in another SF universe illustrates why James Cameron > Ridley Scott.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 06:37 PM (d7tB2)

292 285 I usta teach Auto @ Etiwanda  and Chaffey CC

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 06:37 PM (b7yum)

293 De- Lurk engaged ..... God Bless Y'all !!!! The Horde is Always Here with awesome comments that put a smile on my face !!! Love Y'all 😄.... Carry on .... De-Lurk deactivated .... Lurk engaged ....

Posted by: Extremely grumpy momma bear at September 29, 2013 06:38 PM (pcdyA)

294 Breaking Bad Spoiler:

Walt Jr walks out of the DEA building after being questioned and heads towards a Jaguar parked in the street. As he's walking he drops his crutches, his legs straighten out, he reaches into a pocket and pulls out a cigarette, then gets into the car. Saul is behind the wheel, and they drive away as the screen goes black.

Posted by: some kind of weasel at September 29, 2013 06:38 PM (H0a0l)

295 278 Lemme guess: walt gets stranded on a desert island and falls in love with a volleyball

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 11:34 PM (b7yum)


No, Walt wanders around the beach of the desert Island until he finally discovers the Statue of Liberty and realizes he's been in New York the entire time.

And De Blasio's still mayor...

Posted by: AD at September 29, 2013 06:38 PM (NmpZu)

296 Walt is on a ship that hits an iceberg and he drops a bag of blue into the water that some tweaker finds and solos

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 06:38 PM (b7yum)

297 Same with Klingons, how did they get more technically advanced then us or even the Vulcans? Good question. I think that's due to the retconning that occurred with the Klingons between Star Trek: The Original Series and the Star Trek movies. Originally, the Klingons were pretty much the Soviets of space and then they turned into that space-warrior culture we're more familiar with today. Such a race wouldn't use ships with cloaking devices, as that's dastardly and "dishonorable", (and more appropriate for the Romulans); Klingons would more logically make big-ass star ships bristling with weapons.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 29, 2013 06:39 PM (Dsds2)

298 Same with Klingons, how did they get more technically advanced then us or even the Vulcans?

Funny you should ask. Where all your women at?

Posted by: Temujin at September 29, 2013 06:39 PM (d7tB2)

299 #290 no shit. Chaffey's still going strong, has a vineyard for the Filippi Winery. I think the tech operations are in Chino campus now. UTI has an enormous building though right on Haven.

Posted by: CAC at September 29, 2013 06:40 PM (nas+Y)

300 Clustering doesn't mean the dominant cluster attracts all of the jobs and every person in America lives in NYC. It's a tendency. It's an issue of returns to scale. And it's just one factor among many. Many data centers have been located near hydro plants because they have cheap electricity. That factor overwhelmed other factors, like locating them near where the best data center talent lives. Clustering is just one factor among many that effects where workers and firms choose to locate. But it's a powerful factor that is easily seen in the economic data and research.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 06:40 PM (ZPrif)

301 281 "A hyperviolent group of savages that also manages to operate starships always struck me as silly."

Same with Klingons, how did they get more technically advanced then us or even the Vulcans?

Posted by: lowandslow at September 29, 2013 11:34 PM (APJIX

 

I believe they've made some insinuations that the Klingons technology might have been acquired through an invasion, and them eventually driving off their enemies but having the technology.  If you notice their technology doesn't really seem to advance very much through the Trek series with possibly the exception of acquiring cloaking technology through their alliance with the Romulans.  The Sword of Khaless being in the Gamma Quadrant lends to the invasion speculation.

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2013 06:40 PM (LI48c)

302 Same with Klingons, how did they get more technically advanced then us or even the Vulcans?

Well, the Klingons in TOS didn't seem hyperviolent.  Aggressive, certainly, but not the space barbarians that they tried to make later.  I like to think that Worf's comment on the differences in that time travel episode of DS9 indicate that the Klingons suffered some catastrophe that transformed their species.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 29, 2013 06:41 PM (lr3d7)

303 The best space-warrior race in my limited sci-fi knowledge are the Orks from W40k. Waaagh!

Posted by: Thrawn at September 29, 2013 06:41 PM (Dsds2)

304 CarolT, I'll be praying for him.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 29, 2013 06:41 PM (/B37E)

305 Da LIONS, Baby!!!1! WOOOOOOO!!!

Posted by: holygoat at September 29, 2013 06:42 PM (HYFht)

306 292 Golfclap

Posted by: mpfs at September 29, 2013 06:43 PM (8V7ZZ)

307

297 We ever going shooting?  BLM land outside Victorville or Beaumont

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 06:43 PM (b7yum)

308 Well, the Klingons in TOS didn't seem hyperviolent. Aggressive, certainly, but not the space barbarians that they tried to make later. I like to think that Worf's comment on the differences in that time travel episode of DS9 indicate that the Klingons suffered some catastrophe that transformed their species.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 29, 2013 11:41 PM (lr3d7)

 

Blame KHAAAAAAN!!!!

 

Seriously blame Khan.  And Data.  They explored the changes of the Klingons in a multi episode story arc of Enterprise.  And it involved the an ancestor of Noonien Soong and some Eugenics Supermen that were connected to Khan.

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2013 06:45 PM (LI48c)

309

The problem was that the Reavers never really worked. A hyperviolent
group of savages that also manages to operate starships always struck me
as silly.


 

I've heard tell of a similar group of savages that managed complex feats of navigation and engineering, regarded as subhuman by those on whom they preyed.

 

Vikings, baby.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 06:45 PM (sQ0LB)

310 Where were you folks when Country Singer and I were talking about Choke-WeeWee and Jackson, MS?

Hinds Country prosecutor put in jail one mayor because he was going around actually taking a sledgehammer to drug houses.  The streets are worse in Hinds than Rankin though the car tag tax in Hinds is about 3x that of Rankin.  The FBI convicted several members of the Jackson city council over a kickback scheme over who got the cable TV franchise.  Jackson is and will remain a decaying hive of scum and free loaders.  Nothing will change until it does become Detroit.  Why?  Because the ones who wanted to flee and could afford it, already have.

Now back to writing.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 06:45 PM (JaA49)

311 I find human women too "fragile" except this one you call "Michelle".

Posted by: klingon warrior at September 29, 2013 06:45 PM (qnPg9)

312 Evening all. Back from the most boring race ever. Damnnnn NE. Should have kept Christ on your side

Posted by: RWC-bring on O-Care at September 29, 2013 06:46 PM (LpbKr)

313 Walt meets a sensei who teaches him to win a karate contest even though his leg is broken

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 06:46 PM (b7yum)

314 The Klingons aren't Reaver(-drone)s. They're sentient lifeforms. We don't even have to resort to caste for them.

I mean, the Klingons probably look at Vulcans and wonder "how come they even fight? aren't they all engineers?" As for humans, Duras actually says to Picard's face that humans are just diplomats who can't fight.

So our assumption that Klingons are all space-barbarians is just anti-Klingon racism :^)

Klingons have scientists, inventors and engineers, too. They're not "the Klingon ideal", and I'm sure they get lots of wedgies but they get the job done.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 06:46 PM (d7tB2)

315 ... or, we could look to the weak-ass Enterprise series and clumsy retconning

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 06:49 PM (d7tB2)

316 And this "Michelle" also dresses very well. The wide belts must hold many knives.

Posted by: klingon warrior at September 29, 2013 06:49 PM (qnPg9)

317 Back in the 1970's folks used to put signs in their cars that said "no stereo inside". Robbers busted their windows anyway and scribbled on the signs "Get one".

Posted by: navybrat at September 29, 2013 06:49 PM (YwWOA)

318

Walt holes up with two eccentric uncles and draws cartoons about himself and a tiger.

Have no fear Hollywood has great new ideas for DAYS...

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 06:50 PM (b7yum)

319 "Damn it! I just got a call from the rehab my brother is in. I won't bore you all with the entire thing but he's been in the hospital in Maine since March 30, it started as infections. They infection, strep was everywhere."

So sorry to hear that, Carol.

Perhaps time to think about getting him out of Maine if you can.

He's not the only person to have been rudely handled by hospital-acquired infections. Jim Hoft over at the Gateway Pundit went in for a "routine" joint replacement, one of those out before you know it kind of things. Except his was anything but routine. It turned into weeks in the ICU with infected, damaged heart valves from an antibiotic-resistant bug that went systemic after getting in at the operative site.

I won't let a family member go in for surgery before I meticulously research the hospital's safety ranking and infection control protocols. Some of these places are little more than high-rise sewers. No kidding.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 06:51 PM (gqT4g)

320 Bears 4-0!!!

Oh, wait, those are the Patriots.

Posted by: some kind of weasel at September 29, 2013 06:51 PM (H0a0l)

321 Thoughtsprayers. Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 29, 2013 11:27 PM (9jfyN) Thank you The Phantom Menace. I can’t tell you how many times he’s been sent to the ER from the rehab since he’s been there. I have a pad of paper in the kitchen with all the dates & times. I hate to say this but if I were him I wish would have died from the initial infection, than to have to be paralyzed from it. Last week he called me at work and I couldn’t talk that day because they are doing construction in our office and closing my door doesn’t drown out the noise. I had to call in some wires and other things while it was quiet. He told me he had talked to a lawyer. Why did it take 19 days to do a full body MRI to discover that infection was in cervical spine? I was shocked when surgeon called to tell me it was also in there. I never expected him to live. After a few days I spoke with doctor, one of many on his condition, of infection specialists. That doctor gave me odds o him living 50/5 on the first Friday in April. It would have saved so much pain to him if the frigging infections had killed him right away. When they finally got him off the ventilator after a week & a half, he couldn’t move. He was in ICU o CCU in Maine, Critical Care in ME vs. ICU almost everywhere else. One nurse said he might have had a stroke. HOw he could have a stroke on 20+ machines is inconceivable to me. They waited 7 days for the MRI, while the infection was growing in his cervical spine. If they had been on top of it, why not do MRI day he couldn’t move?

Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2013 06:51 PM (z4WKX)

322 Walter White is really a Klingon? Think about it. It all makes sense now.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at September 29, 2013 06:53 PM (v6hyJ)

323 298 Clustering doesn't mean the dominant cluster attracts all of the jobs and every person in America lives in NYC. It's a tendency. It's an issue of returns to scale. And it's just one factor among many.

Many data centers have been located near hydro plants because they have cheap electricity. That factor overwhelmed other factors, like locating them near where the best data center talent lives.

Clustering is just one factor among many that effects where workers and firms choose to locate. But it's a powerful factor that is easily seen in the economic data and research.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 11:40 PM (ZPrif)



Clustering is all about an odd dynamic about innovation -- most innovations fail; but most of your innovations come from a small group of innovators. This means that it's highly likely that one of those innovators will end up torpedo-ing a company....and the company will experience immense pressure to purge him in order to (a) validate the management of the innovator that bet the farm on a loser, and (b) show that they have repented for committing so much time and resources to what, in retrospect, was a Really Dumb Idea.



The problem is, the guy that spun out that Really Dumb Idea that management over-committed to? At least he's spinning out ideas. So companies are going to want to be around innovators to scoop up the ones cast off.....and innovators are going to want to be around alternative companies so if their Really Dumb Idea explodes, they can still find employment. So you have a "cluster" -- which we all know is just 2/3 of a word.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 06:53 PM (T1005)

324 320 Walter White is really a Klingon?

Think about it. It all makes sense now.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at September 29, 2013 11:53 PM (v6hyJ)

 

Only if he starts quoting Shakespeare.

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2013 06:54 PM (LI48c)

325 Prayers CarolT. Sent.

Posted by: RWC-bring on O-Care at September 29, 2013 06:54 PM (LpbKr)

326 Klingons have scientists, inventors and engineers, too. They're not "the Klingon ideal", and I'm sure they get lots of wedgies but they get the job done.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 11:46 PM (d7tB2)

And beware the Klingon wedgie!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 29, 2013 06:55 PM (Rla3K)

327 309 I find human women too "fragile" except this one you call "Michelle".

Posted by: klingon warrior at September 29, 2013 11:45 PM (qnPg9)



You should try the one we call "Sandra Fluke"....and twice on days that end in "y".

Posted by: Federation at September 29, 2013 06:56 PM (T1005)

328 Yeah, these hospital acquired infections are growing and a major threat. If new antibiotics aren't discovered to stop them it's not inconceivable that we'll live in a post-surgical future. The idea of routine surgeries for cosmetic reason will seem like a crazy death wish. And even things like knee and hip replacements people might just choose to live with the pain rather than risk infections. We'll be back to a world where a torn ACL really does end an athlete's career. I hope we don't wind up living in a post-antibiotic age. It's really gonna suck if we do.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 06:57 PM (ZPrif)

329 Only if he starts quoting Shakespeare. Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2013 11:54 PM (LI48c) Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war!

Posted by: General (Walt) Chang at September 29, 2013 06:57 PM (Dsds2)

330 314 And this "Michelle" also dresses very well. The wide belts must hold many knives.

Posted by: klingon warrior at September 29, 2013 11:49 PM (qnPg9)



Your translation software is faulty. It just said "knives" when you obviously meant "pounds".

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 06:58 PM (T1005)

331 "Sandra Fluke"
One case of Space Clap was enough for me, Federation.

Posted by: klingon warrior at September 29, 2013 06:59 PM (qnPg9)

332 Think about it. It all makes sense now.
And Walt's eyebrows have been becoming a bit bushier now that you mention it.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 29, 2013 07:01 PM (qnPg9)

333 Before I dive into that big ol' sumptuous-looking post above, and the usual slew, spew, and stew of deviant clever and insightful comments, or whatever I can get to of all that before being overcome by the mists of Morpheus, let me just say... I'm not on the top ten lists! Thank you, thank you, to all those commentier and sockier than I. & My only giftule of Sunday gratitude for teh horde is a You Tube playlist of critters! Blame rdbrewer, whose sidebar vidlink list got me started, and several of which links I gratefully appropriated. Spirit of Gregariousness - Trans-species service, loyalty, and play. (No, it's clean, you pervs.) Clicky nic-link leads to embed at mndflwbwrks. About half an hour total viewing, but might need to be taken in small doses.

Posted by: mindful webworker waving HOWDY! at September 29, 2013 07:01 PM (U13jb)

334 Michelle cuts her prime rib with a bat'leth. (When in company of others. Otherwise her alligator bite strenght paired with komodo saliva gets the job done.)

Posted by: RWC-bring on O-Care at September 29, 2013 07:01 PM (LpbKr)

335

Only if he starts quoting Shakespeare.

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2013 11:54 PM (LI48c)

 

I'm not sure who bears responsibility for bringing together Christopher Plummer and Shakespeare in ST VI, but it was a stroke of genius.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 07:02 PM (sQ0LB)

336 One way to think about the Klingons is that they are like the Kzinti in Larry Niven's Known Space reality. Constantly fighting among themselves, with many males never making it to adulthood. The Klingons also probably inherited or stole a lot of their technology from another race. Underlying premise to the Covenant in the "Halo" universe.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at September 29, 2013 07:02 PM (v6hyJ)

337 I assume there's a caste system. An elite of depraved but effective psychopaths; but we only get to meet the drones. Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 11:37 PM (d7tB2) Nope. They were the unexpected byproducts of a pacification experiment.

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 29, 2013 07:02 PM (Vk2pI)

338 I liked the idea of space driving some men mad. It fit with the notion that this was not a safe, sanitized universe. As I recall from the movie, that bit of lore people believed in the ’verse was actually wrong. There was a more biological reason for them going mad.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 29, 2013 07:03 PM (CeNUw)

339 The Making of Star Trek by Stephen Whitfield and Gene Roddenberry. Ballantine Books. 1968.

Chapter 9 The Bad Guys
The Romulans - ... Romulans are highly militaristic, aggressive by nature, ruthless in warfare, and do not take captives. The Star Empire is a dictatorship, with some similarities to the warrior-stoic philosophies of Earth's ancient Roman Empire. ... There is complete equality between the sexes; women are often as found in command of a ship as are men.
 
The Klingons - ... Their only rule of life is rules are made to be broken by shrewdness, deceit, or power.  Cruelty is something admirable; honor is a despicable trait. ... Rule is by absolute dictatorship and assassination is common. Their society is totally devoted to personal gain by the cleverest, strongest, or most treacherous. As a result, their vessels often operate much like "privateers," and warlike acts are a way of life. ... They have no patience with women, even their own, and treat them as sometime useful animals. ... All in all, the Klingons appear to have little (by our standards) in the way of redeeming qualities.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 07:04 PM (JaA49)

340

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 11:57 PM (ZPrif)

 

Paging Dr. Arrowsmith, Dr. Arrowsmith to the white courtesy phone...

 

Actually, the Russians have done some really impressive work with phages in the past 20 or 30 years.  The only problem is the way drugs are approved in this country, the FDA would never get them out in time to do any good.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 07:04 PM (sQ0LB)

341 272 I have this recommendation for Mississippi's government: immediately move the capital to a different city. The far north, preferably. The legislators are at serious risk of Alinsky tactics, or actual Maet-defined literal violence if they convene in a place under the control of this mayor. Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 11:29 PM (d7tB2) Most state governments already have ways to make sure that this doesn't happen. The state capitol is probably guarded by the "Capitol Police" that have jurisdiction over the state grounds. Plus, the state has the State Police that could come in and clean up any disagreements with the city. Plus, the Governor has the state National Guard. Funny how the higher you go on the government food chain that the higher level has the most weaponry behind it.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 29, 2013 07:05 PM (BXLPR)

342 There was a more biological reason for them going mad.
Tribble porn???

Posted by: klingon warrior at September 29, 2013 07:05 PM (qnPg9)

343 Nope. They were the unexpected byproducts of a pacification experiment.

I know that. I'll even spot you that there are only two possible byproducts: lay down and die, or go full zombie.

Suppose there were those who saw what was going on, and figured out there was something in the water. Suppose some of them were seriously evil and realised that the Alliance was never going to come fix what they did.

Bam! Ruling caste of Reavers.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 07:05 PM (d7tB2)

344 Yeah the Reavers. Political Hat has the right of it. The government social-biological engineering experiment gone horribly wrong. The Reavers were a consequence of a designed retro-virus that was supposed to pacify people. It made 99% of the people lose the will to live. It drove 1% of the people homicidally crazy.

Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at September 29, 2013 07:06 PM (v6hyJ)

345 "Suppose there were those" -> "Suppose there were people on or orbiting Ariel who missed out on the first wave of the Pax"

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 07:07 PM (d7tB2)

346 Tribble porn??? Way to go. I was trying not to spoil the ending!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 29, 2013 07:07 PM (CeNUw)

347 osted by: RWC-bring on O-Care at September 29, 2013 11:54 PM (LpbKr) Thank you RWC. I’m going to to call ER now. I love Homeland on Showtime but couldn’t pay attention. I’ll watch it on demand another day. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2013 07:08 PM (z4WKX)

348

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 12:04 AM (JaA49)

 

It is always interesting to see what sorts of retconning happen from early episodes of series and franchises

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2013 07:08 PM (LI48c)

349 Huh, Anna. Klingon women become ferocious in the TNG era. Not equal with men, but that just means those particular women who become warriors have proven themselves equal with men (and these are women you won't want to mess with)

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at September 29, 2013 07:10 PM (d7tB2)

350 You don't need clusters to put out a product.  The freaking IBM PC was born in Boca Raton by a couple dozen renegades within a sleepy IBM backwater operation that made Series 1's some specialized industrial machines. 

By 1983 a thriving cluster had developed around that IBM site as the PC went ballistic in the market.

I'd argue that cluster can actually stifle the real renegades by recycling people with preconceived notions of how shit's supposed to be done.

If the IBM team had adopted the closed architecture Apple, Osborne, Kaypro type approach, the PC would have flopped. 

Having the BIOS "rom scan" documented, and publishing the BIOS source code, motherboard schematic and full hardware details in the PC's blue spine "Technical Reference" manual was a brilliant move that removed all mystery.  Anyone could write code or make adapter cards for those machines and know how to make it work.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 07:12 PM (9MLX+)

351 Boulder, you mean the Durass sisters.  Or Michelle.  Star Trek is still dancing around the whole ruffled and no ruffled Klingon foreheads so toss it on the ruffled side.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 07:12 PM (JaA49)

352 I wanna know how the klingons got so deformed.

Posted by: otho at September 29, 2013 07:13 PM (9gNQd)

353 I'm PVR-ing Homeland early this morning and I'm looking forward to the new season. (Was recording BB all day and didn't want a conflict recording the one season finale at the same time as the one season premiere.)

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 29, 2013 07:14 PM (qnPg9)

354 NEERRRRRDS

Posted by: the troll who says NERDS at September 29, 2013 07:15 PM (d7tB2)

355 350 I wanna know how the klingons got so deformed. Posted by: otho at September 30, 2013 12:13 AM (9gNQd) Racism.

Posted by: RWC-bring on O-Care at September 29, 2013 07:16 PM (LpbKr)

356 350 I wanna know how the klingons got so deformed.
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2013 12:13 AM (9gNQd)

Tribbles.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 29, 2013 07:16 PM (Rla3K)

357 Tribbles. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 30, 2013 12:16 AM (Rla3K) IIRC, the Klingons hated the Tribbles so much that the Klingons used the "nuke the site from orbit" approach on the Tribble's home world.

Posted by: Thrawn at September 29, 2013 07:18 PM (Dsds2)

358 >>>350 I wanna know how the klingons got so deformed.
Posted by: otho at September 30, 2013 12:13 AM (9gNQd)

They went to John Kerry's plastic surgeon?

Posted by: some kind of weasel at September 29, 2013 07:18 PM (H0a0l)

359 Why they got deformed?  Star Trek: The Motion Picture and 'hey we got a big budget!' so the Klingons got ruffled.  Even as Kruge was acting like a typical privateer in The Search for Spock his moll was most certainly not the submissive type nor was Mara in Day of the Dove.  So the Klingon women were operating on the sly even as their stupid men folk did stupid men things. 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 07:18 PM (JaA49)

360 348 You don't need clusters to put out a product. The freaking IBM PC was born in Boca Raton by a couple dozen renegades within a sleepy IBM backwater operation that made Series 1's some specialized industrial machines.

By 1983 a thriving cluster had developed around that IBM site as the PC went ballistic in the market.

I'd argue that cluster can actually stifle the real renegades by recycling people with preconceived notions of how shit's supposed to be done.

If the IBM team had adopted the closed architecture Apple, Osborne, Kaypro type approach, the PC would have flopped.

Having the BIOS "rom scan" documented, and publishing the BIOS source code, motherboard schematic and full hardware details in the PC's blue spine "Technical Reference" manual was a brilliant move that removed all mystery. Anyone could write code or make adapter cards for those machines and know how to make it work.

Posted by: Purp at September 30, 2013 12:12 AM (9MLX+)



I think we're both pretty much on the same page -- clusters are effects and not causes. Once things start bubbling -- based on a non-fail innovation -- a cluster environment can arise if companies believe that innovators are more important than innovations.



If, contrariwise, you're in a "if you build it, they will come" mode, then you believe that you must encourage a cluster to form in order to drive your economic development....which is something I found when tooling around NC and TN -- all sorts of unlikely places had designated "research parks" to try to capture the lightning of NC's Research Triangle.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 07:19 PM (T1005)

361 I hate you all That is all

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 29, 2013 07:19 PM (igDix)

362 342 Yeah the Reavers. Political Hat has the right of it. The government social-biological engineering experiment gone horribly wrong. The Reavers were a consequence of a designed retro-virus that was supposed to pacify people. It made 99% of the people lose the will to live. It drove 1% of the people homicidally crazy. Posted by: Severe Conservative riding Orca at September 30, 2013 12:06 AM (v6hyJ) We think you are ADHD and need some Adderall.

Posted by: Your Local School System at September 29, 2013 07:19 PM (BXLPR)

363 and, no, they do not still sing songs of the Great Tribble Hunt.

Posted by: boulder toilet nerd at September 29, 2013 07:19 PM (d7tB2)

364 350 I wanna know how the klingons got so deformed.

Posted by: otho at September 30, 2013 12:13 AM (9gNQd)



Buuuussshhh!!!!

Posted by: LIV at September 29, 2013 07:20 PM (T1005)

365 I hate you all
That is all

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 30, 2013 12:19 AM (igDix)


DA BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 07:20 PM (vJdyz)

366 Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets.

Posted by: Travis Bickle at September 29, 2013 07:21 PM (bjND7)

367 So is NavyCopJoe getting all those hot street babes to send in their pictures?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 07:21 PM (JaA49)

368 >>>> I wanna know how the klingons got so deformed.
They went to John Kerry's plastic surgeon?>>>>>

His recent TV appearances are just brutal. One eye half-shut, skin like clay, weird shelf-cheeks jutting out almost as far as his nose, immobile forehead...

Does he ever wake up in the middle of the night to pee, glance in the mirror, and scream?

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at September 29, 2013 07:21 PM (TJw7K)

369 Good evening, Horde. Did sweet fuck all productive today. Kinda hoping there are more days like that since I'm seriously overloaded at school.

Posted by: Gingy (yes, married to our own Weirddave) at September 29, 2013 07:22 PM (jt8G9)

370 Hey Anna - do you consider yourself a car girl? 

http://www.stuck-in-reverse.com/2013/04/05/car-girl-test/

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 29, 2013 07:22 PM (0wHyk)

371 363. I had to pop in for my beating A week early too Uggggh 365. Street babes?

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 29, 2013 07:23 PM (igDix)

372 Fi, I am going to beat you so hard up side the head they will think you are a ridged Klingon....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 07:24 PM (JaA49)

373 359 I hate you all
That is all

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 30, 2013 12:19 AM (igDix)



Hey, NCJ -- glad to see that you survived what must have been a staggering disappointment. And I say this as someone who loathes taxpayer-subsidized sports, the NFL in particular, who has never been to an NFL game, and only knows half of the teams' names and spits whenever they are uttered.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 07:24 PM (T1005)

374 No. But I do!

Posted by: theresa h.k. at September 29, 2013 07:25 PM (qnPg9)

375 365. Street babes?
Ctrl-F search the ONT for "hotties" and you'll see the reference.

Posted by: theresa h.k. at September 29, 2013 07:26 PM (qnPg9)

376 Still say that John Kerry looks like Dean Halsey in Re-Animator. Wonder if he ever ate out his daughter, Vanessa's pussy as a decapitated head?

http://tinyurl.com/otv44yr

Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 07:26 PM (vJdyz)

377

His recent TV appearances are just brutal. One eye half-shut, skin like clay, weird shelf-cheeks jutting out almost as far as his nose, immobile forehead...

 

How are we ever going to know when one of these plasticized people has a stroke? Their faces are already paralyzed.

Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 07:26 PM (KDUNf)

378 These F’ing people at the hospital won’t give me any info even though I am his health care proxy and when he was first there they called me to admit and treat him because he was so sick he could’t admit himself to be treated! Idiot that answered phone will have him call me! I would like to punch someone out now but I am in Massachusetts and he’s in Maine. We almost had him transferred to a nursing home/rehab in MA but one I know had reservations about putting him in room with an 80 year old. I just want him in MA where I can go give my scary look or whatever i used to do that would scare the hell out of people when my mother was alive with Alzheimer’s. It’s 12:17, today is my birthday. It is not starting out well.

Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2013 07:26 PM (z4WKX)

379 Car comic slightly more related to current topic of Star Trek:

http://www.stuck-in-reverse.com/2012/12/21/new-ferrari-revealed/

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 29, 2013 07:26 PM (0wHyk)

380 LA schools give every kid an iPad—what could go wrong?

Unfortunately for administrators at LA Unified School District, Step 2 has involved at least 71 kids losing the iPads they were given by the city of Los Angeles as part of a pilot program aimed at eventually supplying all district kids with the snazzy, shiny devices.

Another 300 students figured out how to rig the security settings on their iPads to visit unauthorized social media websites. This prompted administrators to ban students from using the iPads while they are at home, away from school supervision — at least partly defeating the point of having the devices, which are intended as supplemental learning tools.

Posted by: Bender Rodriguez at September 29, 2013 07:27 PM (e8kgV)

381 369 363. I had to pop in for my beating
A week early too
Uggggh

365. Street babes?

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 30, 2013 12:23 AM (igDix)



http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=343781#c21222847

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 07:27 PM (T1005)

382 359 I hate you all That is all Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 30, 2013 12:19 AM (igDix) --"The feeling is mutual" --Lions Fan Oh and Chiefs are 4-0!

Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 07:27 PM (fOFYL)

383 NSFW http://tinyurl.com/m3exte6

Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 07:28 PM (vJdyz)

384 370 Fi, I am going to beat you so hard up side the head they will think you are a ridged Klingon.... 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 12:24 AM (JaA49)



Well, at least you haven't dropped a space colony on me yet. 

/dons dorky looking bike helmet

What?  It's the only head protection I have on hand!  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 29, 2013 07:28 PM (0wHyk)

385 373. I'm on my iPhone cause I'm working but since there is a massive show coming up I'm guessing street pulse is looking for car babes Btw, I'll be entering my cab if we can get the interior stuff in on time

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 29, 2013 07:29 PM (frroL)

386 Posted by: Bender Rodriguez at September 30, 2013 12:27 AM (e8kgV)


And of course, they just raised state taxes for education dollars.  

For the Children.   Yay.   

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 29, 2013 07:29 PM (0wHyk)

387  Why they got deformed? Star Trek: The Motion Picture and 'hey we got a big budget!' so the Klingons got ruffled. Even as Kruge was acting like a typical privateer in The Search for Spock his moll was most certainly not the submissive type nor was Mara in Day of the Dove. So the Klingon women were operating on the sly even as their stupid men folk did stupid men things.

 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 12:18 AM

 

 

So it was the shitty movies? Which spilled over to the shitty tv reboots? Coz I don't remember the klingons going all elephant man in the excellent original series.

Posted by: otho at September 29, 2013 07:30 PM (9gNQd)

388 It seems Detroit has some redeeming qualities afterall.

Posted by: RWC-bring on O-Care at September 29, 2013 07:31 PM (LpbKr)

389 So it was the shitty movies? Which spilled over to the shitty tv reboots? Coz I don't remember the klingons going all elephant man in the excellent original series.

Posted by: otho at September 30, 2013 12:30 AM (9gNQd)


to be fair, I always read that Roddenberry always wanted the ridges but the budget for TOS happened

Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 07:32 PM (vJdyz)

390 to be fair, I always read that Roddenberry always wanted the ridges but the budget for TOS happened

 

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2013 12:32 AM

 

 

Sounds like something George Lucas would say.

Posted by: otho at September 29, 2013 07:33 PM (9gNQd)

391 I am not an... animaaaaaal!

Posted by: klingon warrior at September 29, 2013 07:34 PM (qnPg9)

392 Does he ever wake up in the middle of the night to pee, glance in the mirror, and scream? I refuse to use mirrors in the dark. Because of the legend of John Kerry in the mirror.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 29, 2013 07:34 PM (CeNUw)

393 Observation of the day: Watching the beginning of tonight's game, it made me realize basiclly everyone you see in an NFL game is college-educated. In a nation where only 1 in 4 or so has a bachelors. Not that today's players exude learned refinement or anything. As a class, I would consider NASCAR drivers more intelligent sounding in interviews, and a lot of those guts are high school grads. Because the NASCAR drivers work at it.

Posted by: Observicus at September 29, 2013 07:34 PM (e2cjy)

394 All these years I kept say cutler really can't suck this bad It must be the shitty Oline Turns out, yeah, he really does suck that bad

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 29, 2013 07:34 PM (frroL)

395 G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate is not a retrovirus.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 29, 2013 07:35 PM (JawqV)

396 Puxahonie Phil sees John Kerry in the mirror, "Yaaaarrrgg!!!!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 07:35 PM (JaA49)

397 Wtf kind of hash is frroL?

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 29, 2013 07:35 PM (frroL)

398 all sorts of unlikely places had designated "research parks" to try to capture the lightning of NC's Research Triangle.

RPI has been pimping a "research park" spinoff between Troy and East Greenbush off rt4 for over 20 years now.  AFAIK, nothing earth shattering has ever come out of it, although the university proper has done some solid break through work over the years. Certainly nothing of the magnitude of the industry the original IBM PC spawned has come out of that industrial park

The triangle area already had strong industrial presence before the RTP notion ever came along.  Most IBM networking development had been done at the Raleigh site for a very long time. 

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 07:35 PM (9MLX+)

399 Roddenberry also wanted a space babe character with six jugs, I've read. (3 x 2 I'm guessing and not e.g. 6 in a row)

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 29, 2013 07:35 PM (qnPg9)

400 Wtf kind of hash is frroL?

You've gone feral?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at September 29, 2013 07:37 PM (JawqV)

401 Hey, on the bright side..... The wife's boobs haven't lost to gravity and the kid's not preggers so there's always that

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 29, 2013 07:37 PM (frroL)

402 I think we're both pretty much on the same page -- clusters are effects and not causes. Once things start bubbling -- based on a non-fail innovation -- a cluster environment can arise if companies believe that innovators are more important than innovations. If, contrariwise, you're in a "if you build it, they will come" mode, then you believe that you must encourage a cluster to form in order to drive your economic development....which is something I found when tooling around NC and TN -- all sorts of unlikely places had designated "research parks" to try to capture the lightning of NC's Research Triangle. Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 12:19 AM (T1005) These clusters pop up because of one company or idea. Car factories started being built around Detroit, so all the supporting industries sprang up there so that they could be close by to take advantage of being able to see what the makers were up to. New York is the financial center because it was one of the first major ports in the US, and the money flowed there. Once that started, all the money managers, banks, and investment houses sprang up there. They probably won't move from NYC because of the cache of being in NYC, but they may move almost all of their operations out of NYC and just leave a facade in the city itself. NC Research Triangle is successful because it is located in Raleigh (state capitol) and right smack dab in the center of Duke-UNC-NCSU. Not very many cities have that kind of firepower going for it. Boston is the only other area like Raleigh that I can think of with that much juju.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 29, 2013 07:37 PM (BXLPR)

403 "These F'ing people at the hospital won't give me any info even though I am his health care proxy and when he was first there they called me to admit and treat him because he was so sick he couldn't admit himself to be treated!"

I hate attorneys, but sometimes you have to get one.

Get one.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 07:38 PM (gqT4g)

404 6 in a row would mean downsizing the individual units, unless you were gonna put 3 on her back.  The stacked scheme has actual precedent in the mammal world

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 07:38 PM (9MLX+)

405 If you can't afford a lawyer, I am sure you can find a Klingon....

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 07:39 PM (JaA49)

406 Roddenberry also wanted a space babe character with six jugs, I've read. (3 x 2 I'm guessing and not e.g. 6 in a row)

 

Posted by: andycanuck at September 30, 2013 12:35 AM

 

Jeez, Kirk would lose his shit... and Scott would totally stab that.

Posted by: otho at September 29, 2013 07:39 PM (9gNQd)

407 [/]Does he ever wake up in the middle of the night to pee, glance in the mirror, and scream? It is the penalty for having inadvertently invented, before the invention of AAA-cell LED flashlights, that Happiest of all Halloween Decorations ... the Sack-o-Lantern ...

Posted by: Arbalest at September 29, 2013 07:39 PM (FlRtG)

408 395 Ferrol, Spain. Horatio Hornblower was a prisoner of the Spanish there for two years in Mr. Midshipman Hornblower.

Posted by: Observicus at September 29, 2013 07:39 PM (e2cjy)

409 403 If you can't afford a lawyer, I am sure you can find a Klingon....

Trial by combat!  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 29, 2013 07:41 PM (0wHyk)

410 "Unfortunately for administrators at LA Unified School District, Step 2 has involved at least 71 kids losing the iPads they were given by the city of Los Angeles as part of a pilot program aimed at eventually supplying all district kids with the snazzy, shiny devices."

So far as Apple is concerned, that's a feature and not a bug.

Note that Apple are up to their ears in aggressively funding the worst sort of Commiefornia proglodyte craziness. You can be sure they'll be pushing to give every CA school kid an iPad, an iPod and an iPhone at public expense next.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 07:41 PM (gqT4g)

411 How about ...
X _ _ X
_ XX _
X _ _ X

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at September 29, 2013 07:41 PM (qnPg9)

412 "202 Remember here in la breaking bad hasn't even started yet

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 11:05 PM (b7yum)"


Well, you're in for a treat.  I was really surprised when it turned out that Hank wasn't really dead and when he set off the bomb that killed Skyler and the rest of Walter's family, that was a real shocker.


Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at September 29, 2013 07:42 PM (31Nrp)

413
NC Research Triangle is successful because it is located in Raleigh (state capitol) and right smack dab in the center of Duke-UNC-NCSU. Not very many cities have that kind of firepower going for it. Boston is the only other area like Raleigh that I can think of with that much juju.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 30, 2013 12:37 AM (BXLPR)



Silicon Valley has Stanford/UC Berkeley/Santa Clara, with a nod to UC Santa Cruz, UC Davis, and UC San Francisco (medical).

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 07:45 PM (T1005)

414 at least 71 kids losing the iPads they were given

Yea...lost.  That's the ticket...they got lost.

Not sold or traded for crack or anything nefarious like that, just lost like socks in a dryer.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 07:45 PM (9MLX+)

415 HA! Matt Kemp out for the postseason

Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 07:47 PM (vJdyz)

416 391 Observation of the day: Watching the beginning of tonight's game, it made me realize basiclly everyone you see in an NFL game is college-educated. In a nation where only 1 in 4 or so has a bachelors. Not that today's players exude learned refinement or anything. As a class, I would consider NASCAR drivers more intelligent sounding in interviews, and a lot of those guts are high school grads. Because the NASCAR drivers work at it. Posted by: Observicus at September 30, 2013 12:34 AM (e2cjy) Do you know any professional athletes or college athletes? They bust their asses to get to that point. Nobody can buy you a spot in the major leagues, you have to earn it.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 29, 2013 07:49 PM (BXLPR)

417 413 HA! Matt Kemp out for the postseason Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2013 12:47 AM (vJdyz) --Who the hell is that? Oh, wait, you're talking about baseball --never mind.

Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 07:49 PM (fOFYL)

418 And to top it off, his injury should drop his price a few bucks next year during my drafts

Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 07:49 PM (vJdyz)

419 huhuhuh uh huh... he said "crack"... huhuhuh

Posted by: butthead at September 29, 2013 07:50 PM (9gNQd)

420 Clustering isn't an issue of need or what you should do. It's just a description of the observable facts of what has actually happened. Clustering happens over and over again in industry after industry. It's not a controversial topic. It's just a fact. Then there are the questions of why it happens and how to influence it. A lot of govts spend a lot of money to try and jumpstart a cluster. Usually fails. But sometimes succeeds like with Research Triangle Park in NC which, as others have pointed out, had a lot to do with having UNC-Duke-NC State spitting out fresh young talent every year. Big govt and big business can pour a ton of money into a site and jumpstart a cluster to a degree. And IBM back in its prime was about as big business as it gets. And modern universities are about as big govt as you can get.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 29, 2013 07:50 PM (ZPrif)

421 For The Dude, assuming he don't have it already, and The Political Hat
http://tinyurl.com/m848fwv

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 07:51 PM (JaA49)

422 414 Yes, I have. Like the time one roomed with me for a few weeks. Nice guy the three times he said anything. Anything else?

Posted by: Observicus at September 29, 2013 07:53 PM (e2cjy)

423 Makes me miss the Bastard OAVs and makes me feel old since it's been almost 15 years since I've watched them.

Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 07:54 PM (vJdyz)

424 388 to be fair, I always read that Roddenberry always wanted the ridges but the budget for TOS happened

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2013 12:32 AM


Sounds like something George Lucas would say.

Posted by: otho at September 30, 2013 12:33 AM (9gNQd)

 

George Lucas would say it and then digitally insert the ridges into the DVD and Blue Ray releases.  All away missions would become huge open world environments with dewbacks and imperial walkers everywhere.

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2013 07:55 PM (LI48c)

425 396 all sorts of unlikely places had designated "research parks" to try to capture the lightning of NC's Research Triangle.

RPI has been pimping a "research park" spinoff between Troy and East Greenbush off rt4 for over 20 years now. AFAIK, nothing earth shattering has ever come out of it, although the university proper has done some solid break through work over the years. Certainly nothing of the magnitude of the industry the original IBM PC spawned has come out of that industrial park

The triangle area already had strong industrial presence before the RTP notion ever came along. Most IBM networking development had been done at the Raleigh site for a very long time.

Posted by: Purp at September 30, 2013 12:35 AM (9MLX+)



I was toolin' around and kept finding offramps to "East Bumfuck Research Park" -- which I found extremely sad. There's some extremely pretty countryside and wonderful people around, but there are some places (mainly mill towns) that have just imploded. Now, I'm looking at them and thinking "why not just reboot?", but something sucked the soul out of 'em -- and a lot of that was embodied in the concept of a research park. It was like, "the XXX (cotton mill, cigarette plant, furniture factory....) went foom, we'll make a research park and everything will be right again." Very cargo cult.



Which, again, is sad. There are so many advantages to be had in the area, but when TPTB are fixated on a specific deus ex machina, things just sit.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 07:57 PM (T1005)

426 I had a half eaten scone stolen from my car parked in nyc back in the 80's. At least they only broke the rear triangle window.

Posted by: venus velvet at September 29, 2013 07:58 PM (g94P/)

427 Silicon Valley has Stanford/UC Berkeley/Santa Clara, with a nod to UC Santa Cruz, UC Davis, and UC San Francisco (medical). Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 12:45 AM (T1005) Yeah, I thought they were all around there, but just wasn't sure that all were there. Would also probably throw in San Jose State for being close by. I had a former co-worker from Cali always give me a hard time about Cali geography.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 29, 2013 07:59 PM (BXLPR)

428 418 Clustering isn't an issue of need or what you should do. It's just a description of the observable facts of what has actually happened. Clustering happens over and over again in industry after industry. It's not a controversial topic. It's just a fact.

Then there are the questions of why it happens and how to influence it. A lot of govts spend a lot of money to try and jumpstart a cluster. Usually fails. But sometimes succeeds like with Research Triangle Park in NC which, as others have pointed out, had a lot to do with having UNC-Duke-NC State spitting out fresh young talent every year.

Big govt and big business can pour a ton of money into a site and jumpstart a cluster to a degree. And IBM back in its prime was about as big business as it gets. And modern universities are about as big govt as you can get.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at September 30, 2013 12:50 AM (ZPrif)



I would posit that government and business have little or nothing to do with clustering through intention and effort.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 08:01 PM (T1005)

429 Question for Culinary Morons: What's the best way to remove onion juice from one's hands? My wife spreads the shit shit everywhere and I despise it, but I pic it up fro every tap, handle aand knob around here. How best to expunge this noxious shit from my person??

Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 08:03 PM (fOFYL)

430 George Lucas would say it and then digitally insert the ridges into the DVD and Blue Ray releases. All away missions would become huge open world environments with dewbacks and imperial walkers everywhere.

 

Posted by: buzzion at September 30, 2013 12:55 AM

 

George Lucas would do it to all of it including the film. Then burn the originals. After replacing the original crew with Boyz 2 Men.

 

Posted by: otho at September 29, 2013 08:03 PM (9gNQd)

431 Question for Culinary Morons: What's the best way to remove onion juice from one's hands? My wife spreads the shit shit everywhere and I despise it, but I pic it up fro every tap, handle aand knob around here. How best to expunge this noxious shit from my person?? Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2013 01:03 AM (fOFYL) Onion juice?

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 29, 2013 08:03 PM (Vk2pI)

432 Onion juice? Posted by: The Political Hat at September 30, 2013 01:03 AM (Vk2pI) --Duh, i.e., the stank of onion from one's hand transmitted from an onion handler spreading the shit. I regard onions as a noxious weed.

Posted by: logprof at September 29, 2013 08:06 PM (fOFYL)

433 Now here is a stereotype to love (LOL) ...

A TV news anchor in Santa Teresa, New Mexico was arrested for beating her husband.

Adrienne Alvarez, an anchor and reporter for NBC affiliate KTSM in El Paso, Texas, was arrested early Thursday morning on battery charges.

Posted by: Stefen Rodriguez at September 29, 2013 08:06 PM (e8kgV)

434 I regard onions as a noxious weed. Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2013 01:06 AM (fOFYL) Onions are tasty. I prefer them raw. But then chalcogens don't bother me much. The pnictogens on the other hand…

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 29, 2013 08:07 PM (Vk2pI)

435 I regard onions as a noxious weed.

 

Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2013 01:06 AM

 

Really? Onion is good stuff, eh?

Posted by: ricky at September 29, 2013 08:08 PM (9gNQd)

436 Then there are the questions of why it happens

It happens because someone succeeded in a non-clustered backwater that was (originally) CHEAP to operate out of.  Its an effect, not a cause.

You can generate cluster from scratch with a monopoly operation backstopping them -- ex. the industrial cluster that surrounded the US Army's Watervliet arsenal.  However, when that backstop vanishes, so does most of the cluster because they'd so tuned their operations to that monopoly's needs. 

When the Watervliet arsenal scaled back operations, a lot of surrounding business folded -- they didn't know how to stand on their own with a diverse range of product/services.

The Boca area took a hit for several years when IBM folded the site, but has bounced back and is even stronger now than when IBM was in town.  Even though IBM left, many still had markets elsewhere and weren't dependent on IBM.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 08:09 PM (9MLX+)

437 427 Question for Culinary Morons: What's the best way to remove onion juice from one's hands? My wife spreads the shit shit everywhere and I despise it, but I pic it up fro every tap, handle aand knob around here. How best to expunge this noxious shit from my person??

Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2013 01:03 AM (fOFYL)



Onion smell is produced by sulfur compounds in the juices. A quick scan of the internet indicates that acidic remedies (lemon juice, vinegar) have potential to knock that down. Alternatively, you can try synthesizing meth, which should soon render your onion problem trivial.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 08:10 PM (T1005)

438 Question for Culinary Morons: What's the best way to remove onion juice from one's hands? My wife spreads the shit shit everywhere and I despise it, but I pic it up fro every tap, handle aand knob around here. How best to expunge this noxious shit from my person??

Try cutting a fresh lemon in half and rubbing it on your hands. The only other stuff I know that will get rid of the smell of onion juice is Clorox, and that's tough on skin as well as on nasty smells.

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 29, 2013 08:11 PM (eawoP)

439

Posted by: logprof at September 30, 2013 01:03 AM (fOFYL)

 

Salt. Use a liberal amount and pretend that it's soap for washing your hands.

Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 08:11 PM (KDUNf)

440

"but I pic it up fro every tap, handle aand knob around here."

 

 

heheh eh heh heheh eh heheheh... 

Posted by: beavis at September 29, 2013 08:12 PM (9gNQd)

441 SAN JOSE -- A month before authorities say he killed his wife, 40-year-old Mario Chavez was in jail after a heated domestic argument that ended with him threatening their 6-year-old son with a knife.

His family got a protective order. He made bail. When a judge later raised the amount, so did Chavez.

In the weeks since the Sept. 7 slaying that left three San Jose children virtually orphaned, some of the sadness gave way to a pointed question: Should Chavez -- who was in the country illegally -- have been able to post bail in the first place?

Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials contend they could have kept Chavez off the street, but were stymied by a county policy that severely curtails their access to inmates. But the local leaders who championed that policy say it remains an important protection against federal overreaching, and argue the criminal justice system has plenty of other ways to keep dangerous individuals locked up.

... of course ICE could have done more ... I blame Obama.

Posted by: Edward Snowden at September 29, 2013 08:12 PM (e8kgV)

442 Good Night, Horde. I’m going to try to watch Homeland for the second time, this time “on demand” so I can pause. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at September 29, 2013 08:13 PM (z4WKX)

443 The journalist, Mohamed Hassanein Heikal, made the comments in an interview which aired on September 19, 2013. The comments were translated and posted to the internet by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI).

“In the 1950s and 1960s, attempts to end the nuclear arms race began. Countries that already had nuclear arms decided to make do with what they had, and all the other countries, which found it too difficult to join the nuclear arms race, believed that the production of chemical and biological weapons was the poor man's way to deter the nuclear countries. This was especially true with regard to the Arab world. Not a single Arab country refrained from producing chemical and biological weapons,” claimed Heikal in the interview.

Posted by: Saddam Hussein at September 29, 2013 08:14 PM (e8kgV)

444

Salt. Usea liberal amount and pretend that it's soap for washing your hands.

Posted by: PMRich at September 30, 2013 01:11 AM (KDUNf)

 

Is that a Bloomberg liberal amount (none) or a Michael Moore liberal amount (one metric ton)?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 08:14 PM (sQ0LB)

445 No.10 has played down reports of a feud between prime minister David Cameron and Larry the Downing Street cat.

A new book claims that ‘unloved’ rescue cat Larry is disliked by the Cameron family and is little more than a public relations prop.

Evening Standard columnist Matthew d’Ancona has caused a stir with the revelations in his new book, In It Together: The Inside Story of the Coalition Government.

But a Downing Street spokesman said: ‘Totally untrue. He is very popular with everyone in the building and we all get on purr-fectly well.’

Posted by: Morris T Cat at September 29, 2013 08:16 PM (e8kgV)

446 If Chavez's wife was not American, he could be deported to the country of her nationality to stand trial for murdering a citizen of that country.

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 08:16 PM (9MLX+)

447

Remember here in la breaking bad hasn't even started yet

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 11:05 PM (b7yum)"
Well, you're in for a treat. I was really surprised when it turned out that Hank wasn't really dead and when he set off the bomb that killed Skyler and the rest of Walter's family, that was a real shocker.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-hole at September 30, 2013 12:42 AM

 

OK, won't give anything away...just 2 words, Baby Bluuuuue, dah dah dah.

Great ending to a great show IMO. 

Posted by: The Farmer at September 29, 2013 08:18 PM (eBupg)

448

Is that a Bloomberg liberal amount (none) or a Michael Moore liberal amount (one metric ton)?

 

LOL

 

That would be about a tsp. or so.

Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 08:18 PM (KDUNf)

449 I was toolin' around and kept finding offramps to "East Bumfuck Research Park" -- which I found extremely sad. There's some extremely pretty countryside and wonderful people around, but there are some places (mainly mill towns) that have just imploded. Now, I'm looking at them and thinking "why not just reboot?", but something sucked the soul out of 'em -- and a lot of that was embodied in the concept of a research park. It was like, "the XXX (cotton mill, cigarette plant, furniture factory....) went foom, we'll make a research park and everything will be right again." Very cargo cult. Which, again, is sad. There are so many advantages to be had in the area, but when TPTB are fixated on a specific deus ex machina, things just sit. Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 12:57 AM (T1005) Ahhh yes. The get rich quick schemes that have been a consultant's dream. The consultant just changes the name of the locality in the study, presents it to the local govt, local govt decides to fund the project that will mean another study by the consultant, which will come up with the best plan, which of course will need the consultant's input on building and staffing the research park for a period of x years. It is almost like it is a scam or something.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 29, 2013 08:19 PM (BXLPR)

450 445 If Chavez's wife was not American, he could be deported to the country of her nationality to stand trial for murdering a citizen of that country.

Posted by: Purp at September 30, 2013 01:16 AM (9MLX+)

 

Or, he could be dropped off in the desert at sunset, handcuffed, with a pound of raw meat sewn into his shirt near a coyote pack and told "Viya con Dios".

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 08:20 PM (sQ0LB)

451 Oh wonderful.  Roger Goodell is still seeking ways to fuck up the NFL.  Thinking about increasing the playoffs from 12 to 14 teams.

Posted by: buzzion at September 29, 2013 08:21 PM (LI48c)

452 Just wanted to make an appearance to let ncj know being 4-0 is awesome.  Too bad your team gave up 40 points, today.  Hahahahaha.

Posted by: Papa Editor at September 29, 2013 08:22 PM (59r5R)

453

359 Some people just can't bear humiliating failures.

See what I did there?

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 08:22 PM (b7yum)

454 Onion smell is produced by sulfur compounds in the juices. A quick scan of the internet indicates that acidic remedies (lemon juice, vinegar) have potential to knock that down. Alternatively, you can try synthesizing meth, which should soon render your onion problem trivial. Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 01:10 AM (T1005) You're god damned right.

Posted by: Heisenberg at September 29, 2013 08:26 PM (BXLPR)

455 448 Ahhh yes. The get rich quick schemes that have been a consultant's dream. The consultant just changes the name of the locality in the study, presents it to the local govt, local govt decides to fund the project that will mean another study by the consultant, which will come up with the best plan, which of course will need the consultant's input on building and staffing the research park for a period of x years.

It is almost like it is a scam or something.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 30, 2013 01:19 AM (BXLPR)



....and the crying shame is that there is so much to be done, and so many folks idled when the XXX went foom, and it's such a green and pleasant place.....and, yet, they're chasing the idea of a "research park". How come the consultants don't materialize for a "make shit park"?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 08:26 PM (T1005)

456

Alright BB is over for everyone who's not in Hawaii.

"Jesse I am your father."  Really didn't see that coming

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 08:27 PM (b7yum)

457 File this under - If You Have Enough Money Anything Can Be Restored.
http://www.atbrestorations.co.uk/jaguar-e-type-196

Geez talk about basket case.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 08:32 PM (JaA49)

458 As I recall from the movie, that bit of lore people believed in the ’verse was actually wrong. There was a more biological reason for them going mad.

I remember the movie, in fact I watched it a few weeks ago on Netflix.  I just like the idea, from a story perspective, of a madness borne by long-term operations in space.  I think that it would have been interesting to see the series go in that direction.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 29, 2013 08:34 PM (lr3d7)

459 and, yet, they're chasing the idea of a "research park". How come the consultants don't materialize for a "make shit park"?

Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 01:26 AM (T1005)



===


The 5-year plan requires you to like the brown shoes.  It is your patriotic duty to like the brown shoes.  Now please Comrade, return to line, I estimate you will get your own pair of size 8-1/3 brown shoes any time within the next 6 hours.

Posted by: jc at September 29, 2013 08:35 PM (PlzOe)

460 "In the weeks since the Sept. 7 slaying that left three San Jose children virtually orphaned, some of the sadness gave way to a pointed question: Should Chavez -- who was in the country illegally -- have been able to post bail in the first place?"

They have to be kidding.

In contemporary Commiefornia, and especially in the Bay Area, NO such "pointed questions" are EVER going to be asked about illegal aliens. Absolutely not, not once. Completely off the table. Not even open to a discussion about whether or not to have a discussion.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 08:35 PM (gqT4g)

461 Alternatively, you can try synthesizing meth, which should soon render your onion problem trivial. 

Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 01:10 AM (T1005)



I read the comments precisely for these sort of off-the-wall comments.   Thanks for the laugh.  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 29, 2013 08:36 PM (0wHyk)

462

Now please Comrade, return to line, I estimate you will get your own pair of size 8-1/3 brown shoes any time within the next 6 hours.

 

That would be my luck, shoes won't even fit.

Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 08:37 PM (KDUNf)

463 Hey, on the bright side.....
The wife's boobs haven't lost to gravity and the kid's not preggers so there's always that

Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 30, 2013 12:37 AM (frroL)



Hi there.  I looks like you still have hope.  We need to fix that.

Posted by: God at September 29, 2013 08:38 PM (lr3d7)

464 ....and the crying shame is that there is so much to be done, and so many folks idled when the XXX went foom, and it's such a green and pleasant place.....and, yet, they're chasing the idea of a "research park". How come the consultants don't materialize for a "make shit park"? Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 01:26 AM (T1005) "Research" is politicians' wet dreams. They hear the word and all they can think about is college Phd's running around in lab coats coming up with the cure for cancer with their $150k a year salaries. Also, the federal government sugar that research brings in is HUGE. Maryland didn't leave the ACC for the Big10 because they would be getting a few million dollars more in athletic dollars but because they will probably be pulling in about 100 million more a year in research money by being in the Big10's research consortium. That money way overshadows the money the athletic department by a long mile.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at September 29, 2013 08:40 PM (BXLPR)

465 461 Now please Comrade, return to line, I estimate you will get your own pair of size 8-1/3 brown shoes any time within the next 6 hours.

That would be my luck, shoes won't even fit.

Posted by: PMRich at September 30, 2013 01:37 AM (KDUNf)



====


As far as we can tell, the shoes have never fit anyone.  Now please Comrade, do what is best for your country.  Wait in line.  Buy the shoes.

Posted by: jc at September 29, 2013 08:40 PM (PlzOe)

466 NSFW http://tinyurl.com/m3exte6

Posted by: The Dude at September 30, 2013 12:28 AM (vJdyz)



What the hell is that from?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 29, 2013 08:42 PM (lr3d7)

467 I remember the movie, in fact I watched it a few weeks ago on Netflix. I just like the idea, from a story perspective, of a madness borne by long-term operations in space. I think that it would have been interesting to see the series go in that direction. 

Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 30, 2013 01:34 AM (lr3d7)



Going for the mysterious effect that's just *there*, versus the utterly explained cause?  

Kind of like the Force and midochlorians.   Leave the ambiguity in there!  Negative space!  

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 29, 2013 08:42 PM (0wHyk)

468 Breaking Bad Spoiler:

Wasn't it great when Walt "Hannibal Smith" White, "Face" Pinkman, Huell "B.A. Baracus," and Saul "Howling Mad Murdock" built that tank outta the meth cooking equipment and blowed the hell outta the Nazis.

Then Walt "Hannibal" stood there and declared, "I love it when a plan comes together," lit up a fat cigar which promptly killed him because of the advanced lung cancer.

Epic.

Posted by: some kind of weasel at September 29, 2013 08:42 PM (H0a0l)

469 465 Breaking Bad finale

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 08:44 PM (b7yum)

470 What the hell is that from?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 30, 2013 01:42 AM (lr3d7)


Re-Animator after Dean Halsey (the bad guy in the film) gets his head cut off and is about to eat out his step-daughter

Posted by: The Dude at September 29, 2013 08:44 PM (vJdyz)

471 wtf?  Walt jr. really talks like that????

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 08:45 PM (b7yum)

472
Going for the mysterious effect that's just *there*, versus the utterly explained cause?

Kind of like the Force and midochlorians. Leave the ambiguity in there! Negative space!

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 30, 2013 01:42 AM (0wHyk)



Kind of.  Serenity's explanation for the Reavers was ok, but I kind of like the idea that the Reavers were once men and women like the crew of the Serenity, and over time they changed due to long time spent in space and the things that they had to do to survive.  It would have added some complexity to the series, as the question becomes, "will the crew's morally questionable actions lead it down the same path?"

Posted by: Colorado Alex at September 29, 2013 08:47 PM (lr3d7)

473 Well now that I am properly traumatized on the rust that can infest XKEs along with the price of things, perhaps ready, or is that scared, to look at that Series 2 XKE 2+2.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 08:50 PM (JaA49)

474 in 10 years bryan cranston will look EXACTLY like George Bush the father

Posted by: DAve at September 29, 2013 08:53 PM (b7yum)

475

Serenity was an effort to appease all of the fans that got upset wehen the series stopped. Using a movie length show to roll everything from a series up into a nice neat package is always going to cause bad decisions to be made. 

It worked, kinda - but Colorado Alex's point would have made for a better long term show 

Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 08:55 PM (KDUNf)

476 I am aching so bad.....the garden actually looks like a garden, and we've got 5 96-gallon greenwaste containers and 7 33-gallon buckets extra to show for it. I'm down two Advils and several beers, and I'm punchy.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 09:03 PM (T1005)

477 Wtf kind of hash is frroL? Posted by: Navycopjoe at September 30, 2013 12:35 AM (frroL) You're a WoW murloc.

Posted by: Weirddave at September 29, 2013 09:07 PM (jt8G9)

478 perhaps ready, or is that scared, to look at that Series 2 XKE 2+2.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 01:50 AM (JaA49)




Shame about the top on that car.



Everybody keeping the sharp pointy things away from NCJ?  Good...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 29, 2013 09:08 PM (xa1/W)

479 I'm down two Advils and several beers, and I'm punchy.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 02:03 AM (T1005)



Spent 4 hours patching Sis's roof yesterday, and I'm feeling it today.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 29, 2013 09:09 PM (xa1/W)

480 478 I'm down two Advils and several beers, and I'm punchy.


Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 02:03 AM (T1005)


Spent 4 hours patching Sis's roof yesterday, and I'm feeling it today.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 30, 2013 02:09 AM (xa1/W)



Good thing nothing's happening tomorrow.....oh, wait....no....FFS....crap.....

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 09:13 PM (T1005)

481

Several beers would do me wonders right now.  As it is, I still have 5 more hours until my relief gets here.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 29, 2013 09:14 PM (sQ0LB)

482 GGE, when it comes to any XKE can beggars be truly choosy?  Would you turn down one if it was offered to you because it was a 2+2 and not an Open Top?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2013 09:14 PM (JaA49)

483  I am aching so bad.....the garden actually looks like a garden, and we've got 5 96-gallon greenwaste containers and 7 33-gallon buckets extra to show for it. I'm down two Advils and several beers, and I'm punchy.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 02:03 AM

 

Good Lord Cthwhatever...how BIG is the dang garden?  I used to farm and still garden but I've scaled down a lot.  Mobility problems and a hip replacement in my 50s slowed me down.  Turns out my hip issues were congenital, I've been wearing them out since I was born, damn.  Whoever mentioned that idea for a thread was spot on, many hear might be able to give advice.

Do you frequent any garden forums?  Maybe we could have a gardening thread here on Sundays.  I don't do gaming much, like you could give a shit about football, but growing things I've liked all my life.  Found a local source for the best Roma tomatoes ever called La Roma.  If you like to eat good food you should like to garden.  JMHO

Posted by: The Farmer at September 29, 2013 09:16 PM (eBupg)

484 Would you turn down one if it was offered to you because it was a 2+2 and not an Open Top?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 30, 2013 02:14 AM (JaA49)



Actually yes, but not because of the top, I'm just not all that enamored of British cars in general. Better that they go to those who are, that way they will be properly cared for.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 29, 2013 09:18 PM (xa1/W)

485 Back to work. Later roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 29, 2013 09:20 PM (xa1/W)

486

At Least I'm not the only one working nights. C'mon 7 AM

Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 09:20 PM (KDUNf)

487 Tried my first garden this year. Everything came out great, just didn't get very many tomatoes. Little theiving basterd of a squirrel wiped me out as well as all the apples off the neighbor's tree

Posted by: PMRich at September 29, 2013 09:23 PM (KDUNf)

488 I'm watching Tim Kaine on Fox, Sen. from VA.  He's a flat out liar.  Chris Wallace is pretty tough on him.  I like Mike Lee.

Posted by: The Farmer at September 29, 2013 09:25 PM (eBupg)

489 482 I am aching so bad.....the garden actually looks like a garden, and we've got 5 96-gallon greenwaste containers and 7 33-gallon buckets extra to show for it. I'm down two Advils and several beers, and I'm punchy.Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 02:03 AMGood Lord Cthwhatever...how BIG is the dang garden? I used to farm and still garden but I've scaled down a lot. Mobility problems and a hip replacement in my 50s slowed me down. Turns out my hip issues were congenital, I've been wearing them out since I was born, damn. Whoever mentioned that idea for a thread was spot on, many hear might be able to give advice.Do you frequent any garden forums? Maybe we could have a gardening thread here on Sundays. I don't do gaming much, like you could give a shit about football, but growing things I've liked all my life. Found a local source for the best Roma tomatoes ever called La Roma. If you like to eat good food you should like to garden. JMHO

Posted by: The Farmer at September 30, 2013 02:16 AM (eBupg)


We have a 1900' suburban house on a 8192' suburban lot in the middle of Silicon Valley. Unfortunately, we have an odd relationship with plants. As an example, we have spider plants in green, green with a white stripe in the middle, and white with a green stripe in the middle.  We have asparagus ferns in five varieties and at least 8 types of mint.



In order to do this, the majority of our plants are in pots, including quite large ones. This includes bamboo and trees. By way of contrast, most of our edibles are in raised boxes in the side yard, where we mainly have tomatoes and peppers this year.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 09:27 PM (T1005)

490 Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 02:27 AM (T1005) Note to self, rock gardens are heavy, but ultimately less work.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 29, 2013 09:38 PM (qyfb5)

491 486 Tried my first garden this year. Everything came out great, just didn't get very many tomatoes. Little theiving basterd of a squirrel wiped me out as well as all the apples off the neighbor's tree

Posted by: PMRich at September 30, 2013 02:23

 

Squirrels suck, just bigger rodents than mice and rats.

 

My tomato yield was down this year, very dry in N. IL.  A tip I learned recently, just discovered a bit a go, the color red helps them grow faster and mature better.  You don't have to but commercial products, tho I like Gardener's Supply.  Just cut  up a red Folger's can and shield the plant early in the spring when it needs protection from the cold.  Get's it off to a better start.

Posted by: The Farmer at September 29, 2013 09:38 PM (eBupg)

492 Night all. Here is "Cavite" by Baroness: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLc7DdMkv7A

Posted by: The Political Hat at September 29, 2013 09:43 PM (Vk2pI)

493 489 Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 02:27 AM (T1005)

Note to self, rock gardens are heavy, but ultimately less work.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2013 02:38 AM (qyfb5)


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depends on weed growth.  Get a bunch-o-weeds in between your rocks and it is a major bitch to clean them all out.

Posted by: jc at September 29, 2013 09:43 PM (PlzOe)

494

Happy Birthday CarolT - and my goodness - I'm so sorry to read about your poor brother and his awful ordeal

 

Best wishes my dear and I'm thinking of you and hoping that your brother recovers

Posted by: aussie at September 29, 2013 09:45 PM (TXOY1)

495 Hey folks, happy late ONT.

Gotta love the names the Obama admin gave each state O-care exchange. Here's the names of a few that I just now learned about on tonight's news.

- Covered California
- No-stress Nevada
- Unlimited Utah
- Kickin' Kentucky
- Oh-what-a-feeling Oklahoma
- Who-da-ho Idaho
- Attaboy Alaska
- Swingin' South Dakota

...well, you get the drift. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 29, 2013 09:46 PM (T/XcG)

496 depends on weed growth. Get a bunch-o-weeds in between your rocks and it is a major bitch to clean them all out. Posted by: jc at September 30, 2013 02:43 AM (PlzOe) Scorched rocks have character.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith [/i] [/b] [/s] [/u] at September 29, 2013 09:47 PM (qyfb5)

497 Neat thoughts on storytelling for the arteestic types.  

/scribbles mental notes
http://occasionalcomics.com/panelbrains.pdf


I'm sure all you writer types know all this already - at least enjoy the pretty pictures. = D

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at September 29, 2013 09:53 PM (0wHyk)

498 I have a very small lawn but I have medical problems so it's still a chore and I didn't move from the city to mow grass.

Reached the that final straw.

Sprayed Roundup over the whole thing.

Now a nice even brown and:

NO. MORE. MOWING.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 29, 2013 09:54 PM (lAZep)

499 Scorched rocks have character.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2013 02:47 AM (qyfb5)


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speaking of which, I have been told you can eliminate weeds with boiling water, but I have never tried it.

Posted by: jc at September 29, 2013 09:54 PM (PlzOe)

500 The problem was that the Reavers never really worked. A hyperviolent group of savages that also manages to operate starships always struck me as silly.

Yea that could never happen.

Posted by: Mo Atta at September 29, 2013 09:55 PM (DL2i+)

501 A hyperviolent group of savages that also manages to operate starships always struck me as silly.

Well, they don't operate them WELL.

Detuned engines and assorted make shift repairs and addons were prevalent and had to be faked so Firefly could "pass".

Take a look at some pics from the African Bush and you'll see an amalgam of hunter gatherer weaponry alongside AK's and LAAWS as SOP.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 29, 2013 09:59 PM (lAZep)

502

As for hospitals being dangerous places to pick up antibiotic resistant bugs - I think that when I need a knee replacement I will have it at home - get the surgeon and anaesthetist come over and use my kitchen table - I'm sure it's less likely for me to pick up any nasties that I haven't been exposed to already

 

My horror story - my old boss years ago had a routine knee replacement, picked up a staph infection in a lovely private hospital and within 2 years she was dead - she never really recovered from the initial op and spent most of that 2 years in and out of hospital when finally her body gave out

 

 

Posted by: aussie at September 29, 2013 10:02 PM (TXOY1)

503 "I have a very small lawn but I have medical problems so it's still a chore and I didn't move from the city to mow grass. Reached the that final straw. Sprayed Roundup over the whole thing. Now a nice even brown and: NO. MORE. MOWING."

I am hoping to plant the front yard in a particularly nasty version of poison oak.

No more "Get off my lawn" required.

Hey, kids, have fun! See you again soon!

Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2013 10:02 PM (gqT4g)

504 492 489
Posted by: cthulhu at September 30, 2013 02:27 AM (T1005)



Note to self, rock gardens are heavy, but ultimately less work.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 30, 2013 02:38 AM (qyfb5)

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depends on weed growth. Get a bunch-o-weeds in between your rocks and it is a major bitch to clean them all out.

Posted by: jc at September 30, 2013 02:43 AM (PlzOe)



Round-up.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 10:04 PM (T1005)

505 Coz I don't remember the klingons going all elephant man in the excellent original series.

Roddenberry wanted everyone to look human and they didn't have the latex in the 60s?

Posted by: DaveA at September 29, 2013 10:06 PM (DL2i+)

506 I'm now quite relieved -- big shower, and I don't catch a whiff of myself when the breeze changes. Still tired; still sore.

Posted by: cthulhu at September 29, 2013 10:07 PM (T1005)

507 I just finished ripping the BB finale off TPB.  Most series finales seem to disappoint...

ex. Dexter having Deb killed off?  Seriously, WTF were they thinking doing that? 

I'd have kept her alive and had her get accepted at Quantico or something...then you could have her feeding a now mobile Dexter a steady supply of previously unsolvable FBI serial killer cases to "resolve" and you could changeup a reboot into roadtrip format all over the country

Posted by: Purp[/i][/b][/u][/s] at September 29, 2013 10:09 PM (9MLX+)

508 497 I have a very small lawn but I have medical problems so it's still a chore and I didn't move from the city to mow grass.

Reached the that final straw.

Sprayed Roundup over the whole thing.

Now a nice even brown and:

NO. MORE. MOWING.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Ecclesiates 9:11) at September 30, 2013 02:54

I' m not sure where you are at, but IMO just plant native plants.  This idea of a green bluegrass lawn is really ridiculous.  Forced on us by the white hertonormative partriarchy!!!   Did I speel that right?  J/K

 

Seriously, just investigate laying down some ground barriers for most of the yard, mulch it and plant native plants in strategic spots.  Done w/ most of the maintenance for many years. 

 

 

Posted by: The Farmer at September 29, 2013 10:16 PM (eBupg)

509 speaking of which, I have been told you can eliminate weeds with boiling water, but I have never tried it.

Posted by: jc at September 30, 2013 02:54 AM

 

 

 

 

------True dat.  It works best if you have a bad problem to add salt to the water.  Cheaper than Roundup.  Just don't expect anything to grow there for a long time.

Posted by: The Farmer at September 29, 2013 10:27 PM (eBupg)

510 508 speaking of which, I have been told you can eliminate weeds with boiling water, but I have never tried it.


Posted by: jc at September 30, 2013 02:54 AM


------True dat. It works best if you have a bad problem to add salt to the water. Cheaper than Roundup. Just don't expect anything to grow there for a long time.


Posted by: The Farmer at September 30, 2013 03:27 AM (eBupg)


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I could never get comfortable with the idea of carrying around lots of boiling water.  I guess you just get a huge teapot and be really careful.

Posted by: jc at September 29, 2013 11:01 PM (PlzOe)

511 ------True dat. It works best if you have a bad problem to add
salt to the water. Cheaper than Roundup. Just don't expect anything to
grow there for a long time.


Posted by: The Farmer at September 30, 2013 03:27 AM (eBupg)

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does the salt tend to migrate, or can you keep it pretty localized?


do you have to worry about killing nearby trees because the roots are in the general area?

Posted by: jc at September 29, 2013 11:03 PM (PlzOe)

512 I'm calling it, RIP ONT, time of death 5:02 AM Eastern.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 30, 2013 12:03 AM (sQ0LB)

513 511 I'm calling it, RIP ONT, time of death 5:02 AM Eastern.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 30, 2013 05:03 AM (sQ0LB)




http://tinyurl.com/3y9l8d



Posted by: jc at September 30, 2013 12:06 AM (PlzOe)

514 It's as dead as Jakob Dylan's career.

Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 30, 2013 12:17 AM (9jfyN)

515 He had a couple good songs at least.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 30, 2013 12:19 AM (sQ0LB)

516 514 Conservative Crank @ 5:19,

Yeah?

Okay

Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 30, 2013 12:20 AM (9jfyN)

517 One Headlight was pretty good, although I heard Springsteen did a cover of it that blew it away.  I also liked Heroes.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 30, 2013 12:22 AM (sQ0LB)

518 http://tinyurl.com/cd9yfz

DJIA futures down 11.25...Go baby show the public what a joke you are.

Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 30, 2013 12:26 AM (9jfyN)

519 sorry my mistake....

DJIA futures down 105.00 heh..."close enough for climate science"

Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 30, 2013 12:27 AM (9jfyN)

520 Good Monday morning whoever is left in here.  Unleash the Vic!!

Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 30, 2013 01:30 AM (sQ0LB)

521 Good Morning.

Posted by: Boss Moss former editor of the Harvard Law Review at September 30, 2013 01:35 AM (0axsw)

522 I rewatched the Breaking Bad series finale. I still loved it. Thats how you end a show.

Posted by: puddleglum at September 30, 2013 01:39 AM (zznfJ)

523 521 puddleglum @6:39,

I rewatched Encino Man, essentially if I can figure out Pauly Shore I think I can solve America's decline.

Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 30, 2013 01:43 AM (9jfyN)

524 Hey bud-ee Wee-zal...

he was bedding Savannah....

http://tinyurl.com/pohkx4u

Safe for Work...

*sigh*


Posted by: The Phantom Menace at September 30, 2013 01:48 AM (9jfyN)

525 On the TANG poster, I like that touch of uncertainty in their saying "probably". They weren't really sure, you see--what, did they lack confidence in their product?

Posted by: Philip at September 30, 2013 02:00 AM (9H3qD)

526 I had Tang twice. I had to be sure.

Posted by: and irresolute at September 30, 2013 03:31 AM (RqHWH)

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