July 31, 2016

Overnight Open Thread (7-31-2016)
— Maetenloch

Quote of the Day I - Mental Virus Edition

Socialism sounds great. It has always sounded great. And it will probably always continue to sound great. It is only when you go beyond rhetoric, and start looking at hard facts, that socialism turns out to be a big disappointment, if not a disaster.

-- Thomas Sowell

Quote of the Day II

Godzilla fails by trying to get too flashy, attempting a spinning tail shot rather than just going for a run of the mill kick. He kicked over enough buildings in Japan over the years...is that not good enough for soccer? This new Godzilla really needs to get back to his roots.

Why Bernie Sanders Never Had A Chance

The fix for Hillary may have been in as far back as 2008.

Hillary never stopped wanting to be president. She was just was going to have to wait for eight years. But how could she take the steps necessary and maneuver so she wouldn't be faced with another loss in the primary in 2016? Well, the strategic thing would be to have a plant become the head of the DNC so that if a thumb on the scale had to take place, she'd at least own the thumb. That's where Barack Obama and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz come in.

And if you follow the timeline and movement of the pieces, it seems pretty clear that everything was structured (and powered by quid pro quo) to guarantee that the Dowager Queen of Chautauqua would never be embarrassed by a primary loss again.

When you look back at this chain of events, post-DNC hacking scandal, it sure is a lot easier to understand why there was a thumb, a fist, hell, a side of beef, on the scale against Bernie Sanders and his supports in the 2016 primary cycle.

Bernie voters, you sad saps, you never had a chance. Now, we can reasonably suspect that the chance you didn't have goes back eight years. We can also deduce that the Democratic Party is a top-down organization, not a grassroots organization. They claim to be, of course, but the power at the top has nothing to do with the will of the people in its base. It's a club where only the opinions of a couple of members count.

hillconvequidproquo1

End Stages of Socialism: Venezuela's Socialist Government Gives Itself the Power To Require Forced Farm Labor

Here is your shovel comrade.

"A new decree establishing that any employee in Venezuela can be effectively made to work in the country's fields as a way to fight the current food crisis is unlawful and effectively amounts to forced labor," Amnesty International said in a statement released on Thursday.

President Nicolás Maduro signed a decree at the end of last week that gives powers to the labor ministry to order "all workers from the public and private sector with enough physical capabilities and technical know-how" to join a government drive aimed at increasing food production.

They can be required to work in the agricultural sector for a 60-day period that can be extended for another 60 days "if the circumstances require it."

It's Going to Be Great: Rio Fires Security Firm Week Before Olympics Start

And they're going to replace them with local police who by the way haven't been paid in months.

riopolicenotpaid

WaPo: Seattle's Minimum-Wage Hike Did Nothing For Workers

But people got to feel good about themselves for a while so it wasn't all wasted. </sarc>

Ed of Hot Air points out that this was all known and foreseeable:

Here's the main point of this sad story from Seattle. Minimum wage increases do not increase buying power - not in the long run, because prices reset to counter the increased costs and wipe out any theoretical gains for low-income workers. As this study shows, it doesn't increase buying power in the short run either for workers that supposedly should benefit from the policy. Even the best-case scenario only produces a bump high enough to get an extra latté a week from Starbucks - until Starbucks has to raise its prices, or force longer wait times with smaller staffs, which is a cost of another kind.

The continual push for minimum-wage hikes flies in the face of all evidence, and of all results. If this policy were effective, we wouldn't need to keep raising the level of pay; we would have solved poverty decades ago. It's wishcasting at best, and it's destructive political pandering at worst - and as we see in Seattle, usually it's the worst.

The Story of Jonathon Hernandez

Jonathon Hernandez was an up and coming football coach working his way up the gridiron ladder. But when his younger brother, Aaron, was convicted of murder, Jonathon lost everything since the last name Hernandez was now radioactive in football circles. Here he reflects on why his brother went bad and what it's like to lose your career and have to start completely over.

jonathonher

Sesame Street Fires Three Long Time Characters

All had been on the show for 40+ years.

Bob McGrath (Bob), Emilio Delgado (Luis) and Roscoe Orman (Gordon) all believed they'd been let go from the show, until an outpouring of love from fans put the pressure on. Sesame Workshop - the production company that produces the iconic children's show - seems to be pulling back from a decision not to create any more segments with the characters.

But now the show seems to be walking back the firing after an outcry from the public. CTW is blaming HBO for the decision.

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Neo-Hippies Need Your Money So They Can Live Their Neo-Hippie Lifestyle in a More Pleasant Location

The Allens are a British family of four who practice what they call off-grid parenting which consists of co-sleeping, extended breast-feeding, home-schooling, "lotus birthing" while rejecting vaccines, modern medicine, bedtimes, mealtimes, and shoes. Along with a whole lot of other new-agey, neo-hippie shit. Note that off-grid does not mean off-benefits.

Anyway they now want people like you to give them $100,000 so they can move to Costa Rica and more fully live their lifestyle. I'll let Lex of WWTDD provide the snark:

As with all things British, this story begins with an unpleasant looking chick with shitty teeth saying nonsensical things with complete confidence. Mom Allen is going to breast feed her kids until they leave for the school they won't be attending because they'll only be home schooling. Since they won't vaccinate, that matter has already been decided. The family uses only home-grown medicines which conveniently consist of mom's breast milk. Dried baby placentas are always on hand should somebody need a pick me up...The kids don't wear shoes and often get comments from intrusive neighbors about things like, "You know there's broken glass on the sidewalk, right?". It's unclear how the family sustains itself outside of all sleeping together in the same room and dining on mom's tit porridge. You couldn't go wrong betting on government assistance, the common currency of those committed to natural living.

offgridhippiesallen

Study: Astronauts Who Reach Deep Space 'Far More Likely To Die From Heart Disease'

Ionizing radiation like that found in space is linked to damage to the heart and arteries.

Astronauts who venture into deep space appear to be much more likely to die from heart disease, according to a new study. In another sign that leaving planet Earth is fraught with danger and a potential blow to hopes of establishing a colony on Mars, researchers discovered deep space radiation appears to damage the body's cardiovascular system. They reported that three out of the seven dead Apollo astronauts died as a result of a cardiovascular disease, such as a heart attack or stroke. Although the numbers are small, that rate of 43 percent is four to five times higher than found among astronauts who flew in low Earth orbit or who did not actually go into space, according to a paper in the journal Scientific Reports. In an attempt to test whether the higher numbers of cardiovascular deaths were simply a statistical blip or a genuine sign of the effect of traveling into deep space, the scientists exposed mice to the same type of radiation that the astronauts would have experienced. After six months, which is the equivalent of 20 human years, the mice showed damage to arteries that is known to lead to the development of cardiovascular disease in humans.

Georgia Lottery Winner Invests His Winnings In a Business Based On What He Loves

ronnielotteryGAmeth

Weekly Commenter Standings

Top 10 commenters:
1 [682 comments] 'J.J. Sefton' [95.73 posts/day]
2 [653 comments] 'Aetius451AD'
3 [618 comments] 'ThunderB'
4 [566 comments] 'Ricardo Kill'
5 [550 comments] 'Jane D'oh'
6 [483 comments] 'Bruce With a Wang!'
7 [482 comments] 'Insomniac'
8 [428 comments] 'Vic  We Have No Party'
9 [419 comments] 'Nevergiveup'
10 [416 comments] 'Jay Guevara'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [197 names] 'SMOD, take me away' [27.65 unique names/day]
2 [98 names] 'Prince Ludwig the #Problematic'
3 [84 names] 'The Political Hat'
4 [62 names] 'Nigel West Dickens'
5 [59 names] 'Ready For Hillary!!11!!'
6 [45 names] 'Nigel West Dickens'
7 [44 names] 'Mike Hammer, etc., etc.'
8 [35 names] 'Bertram Cabot Jr.'
9 [35 names] 'davidt'
10 [32 names] 'Insomniac'

The group. Banned on 12 universities.

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Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at July 31, 2016 06:20 PM (5o5ek)

2 whooohooooooooooo!!!!!! I'm sure Sean Penn said that in one of his movies.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at July 31, 2016 06:20 PM (5o5ek)

3 Hey, where all da white wimmen at?

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at July 31, 2016 06:21 PM (/wm8n)

4 Yada, yada, yada.....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 31, 2016 06:22 PM (EzgxV)

5 Fucking hippies.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 31, 2016 06:22 PM (/wm8n)

6 Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 31, 2016 06:23 PM (3ZoRf)

7 I've let my socking duties slip.

Posted by: garrett at July 31, 2016 06:23 PM (HJQI1)

8 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 31, 2016 06:23 PM (T/cxb)

9 Ah, sweet sweet ONT.

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 31, 2016 06:24 PM (q7T0y)

10 Woot woot it's the ONT

Posted by: Mis. Hum at July 31, 2016 06:24 PM (voOPb)

11 Does hippie mom put breast milk in a thermos or does she show up at school at lunchtime to top Junior off in person? Blechhhh.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 31, 2016 06:24 PM (/wm8n)

12 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=12162

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 31, 2016 06:25 PM (vBeA5)

13 >>They can be required to work in the agricultural sector for a 60-day period that can be extended for another 60 days "if the circumstances require it." "Now - I want to see nice, tight Beet Groupings, men!"

Posted by: Generalisimo Maduro at July 31, 2016 06:26 PM (HJQI1)

14 Hmmm, investing $3 million in meth. That is kind of crazy impressive.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 31, 2016 06:27 PM (3ZoRf)

15 Thar bitch is NOT doing what ... oh SMOD, where fore art thou?

Posted by: oh,k,tnx,bye at July 31, 2016 06:27 PM (S89PT)

16 top 20

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 31, 2016 06:27 PM (89T5c)

17 The moon is in "Deep Space"?

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at July 31, 2016 06:27 PM (N4ERe)

18 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/759791873250643968 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/759792076699471873 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/759792214167871488 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/759792349216059396

Posted by: kbdabear at July 31, 2016 06:27 PM (GrXXa)

19 Anybody seen the videos of the social experiments/porn where some dude wears a hidden camera in public crowds and places and rubs his boner and jerks off on women or gets public play? It is mostly in Europe it appears. Honestly I'm leaning towards not staged. I laugh and of course I denounce myself.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 06:28 PM (MlXgU)

20 Hey, UK? Toddler breast feeding, sleeping in the same bed - you all know there's child abuse going on, right? I mean, I know you didn't care when muslims were doing it, but these ar white people. It's OK to arrest them.

Posted by: josephistan at July 31, 2016 06:28 PM (7qAYi)

21 evening all. could have done without knowing about the Allen's from across the pond but I'll jump into the ONT.

Posted by: rich@gmu at July 31, 2016 06:28 PM (Rd2Di)

22
Back when this place still had some class:

London's Famous The Ace Of Spades Club (1933)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV_OVKVPo5Q

The Ace of Spades was a pioneer roadhouse, serving meals 24hrs a day in a restaurant with seating for up to 800, dancing until 3 am, open air swimming pool, a miniature golf course, polo ground, riding school and an air strip.

wikipedia.org/wiki/Ace_of_Spades_(junction)

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 31, 2016 06:28 PM (kdS6q)

23 Does hippie mom put breast milk in a thermos or does she show up at school at lunchtime to top Junior off in person? Home school, i thought it said ...

Posted by: Adriane the Readingly Challenged Critic ... at July 31, 2016 06:28 PM (AoK0a)

24 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics - 2 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/759792474650849281 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/759792625436110848 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/759792750359224320 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/759792896102969353

Posted by: kbdabear at July 31, 2016 06:29 PM (GrXXa)

25 And the pre teen son breast feeding is pretty creepy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 31, 2016 06:29 PM (3ZoRf)

26 Pick those fucking peppers, Spicolli!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 31, 2016 06:29 PM (89T5c)

27 Posted by: rich@gmu at July 31, 2016 11:28 PM (Rd2Di)

Rich, how do you be?

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at July 31, 2016 06:29 PM (wYnyS)

28 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics - 3 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/759793024486379520 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/759793152517480448 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/759793277285507073 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/759793439261102081

Posted by: kbdabear at July 31, 2016 06:30 PM (GrXXa)

29 Hmmm, investing $3 million in meth. That is kind of crazy impressive. Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 31, 2016 11:27 PM (3ZoRf) I didn't realize AMC was an investment firm besides being a cable network

Posted by: Mis. Hum at July 31, 2016 06:30 PM (voOPb)

30 >>Hmmm, investing $3 million in meth. So, you are intimating that his business model might need a little Tweaking?

Posted by: garrett at July 31, 2016 06:30 PM (HJQI1)

31 If I won the lottery I'd marry a young Estonian beautiful Christian girl and have 5 children.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 06:30 PM (MlXgU)

32 China & Cambodia tried forced agriculture labor before. How'd that work out?

Posted by: josephistan at July 31, 2016 06:31 PM (7qAYi)

33 The smart winners change the world with philanthropic efforts, I don't know about that---alot go broke giving money away to charities and friends/relatives. I don't know how it will pan-out in the near future when the paper crash happens, but the bright ones of the past 40 years or so of state-run lotteries invest it as their principal and only spend the return/interest.

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at July 31, 2016 06:31 PM (LdMbv)

34 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics - 4 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/759793580848185344 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/759793811732123649 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/759793922264530944 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/759794027369603073

Posted by: kbdabear at July 31, 2016 06:31 PM (GrXXa)

35 Uncle Palp, I was just joshing you about the nieces. Although sharing would still be nice. : ) Personally, I'd be interested in some juicy family tidbit from the past. YMMV.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 31, 2016 06:31 PM (heN73)

36 hey Hrothgar. well enough I suppose. work has been keeping me busy.

Posted by: rich@gmu at July 31, 2016 06:31 PM (Rd2Di)

37 Home school, i thought it said ... Posted by: Adriane the Readingly Challenged Critic ... at July 31, 2016 11:28 PM (AoK0a) ----------- Oooh, look at me. I read the post! Oooh!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 31, 2016 06:31 PM (/wm8n)

38 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/759792474650849281 An inspiration to a healthy life style if I ever saw one ...

Posted by: Adriane the Sports Ilustrated Swimsuit Edition Critic ... at July 31, 2016 06:32 PM (AoK0a)

39 So, you are intimating that his business model might need a little Tweaking? Posted by: garrett at July 31, 2016 11:30 PM (HJQI1) It's all about location. He could have made a killing in North Korea.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 31, 2016 06:32 PM (3ZoRf)

40 That Jonathan Hernandez story was a very very good read. His brother really fucked his shit it up, and while he could have blamed everything on everyone else(and had a decent reason to) he just said "fuck it" and re built.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at July 31, 2016 06:32 PM (R5HRU)

41 >>the pre teen son breast feeding is pretty creepy. If you click on the picture it will show you the uncropped image. You don't want to know where his hands are.

Posted by: garrett at July 31, 2016 06:32 PM (HJQI1)

42 I had a friend who breat fed her son till he was six! And he was a bit of a brat, wanting his milk when they were out in restaurants and grabbing her breasts in public. It was somewhat appalling and she is all into not homeschooling but free schooling...open curriculums and such.

Posted by: IC at July 31, 2016 06:32 PM (KTFfX)

43 And the pre teen son breast feeding is pretty creepy. Posted by: Aetius451AD ----------- *?* Whut?

Posted by: Oedipus at July 31, 2016 06:33 PM (jO7js)

44 Okay, here we go: Not long ago, a very close family friend died. I say 'family friend' but he was more my mother's friend than my step-father's. My bio-father, I never met, and know nothing about. My mother's first husband was, I'm told a beast and a reprobate, and kept his distance on pain of slow death at the hands of my mother's family. I remember him - my mother's friend - always being around when I was young. When we moved from the middle of nowhere to a suburb of the capital, he moved, too. I know they went to college together, and that I was born while she was working on her master's. There's an album full of photos of me, taken by him - he was a professional photographer, and fairly well-known. When my mother remarried, he sort of faded away, but when I showed an interest in photography, back he popped up again, and the man taught me most of what I know about the subject, which is not a little. As I say, he died recently, and my mother, after mentioning that she'd attend his funeral (same small town, after all), added that my stepfather was being unpleasant. A few days ago, I got a package from home. A big one. It was his 8x10 portrait camera - had his name engraved on the bottom - and a note from my mother reading, 'He wanted you to have this.' Do I dare ask her who he was to us?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 06:33 PM (E1RZH)

45 Oooh, look at me. I read the post! Oooh! Hey ! It's not my fault kbdabear posted early !!!!

Posted by: Adriane the Sports Ilustrated Swimsuit Edition Critic ... at July 31, 2016 06:33 PM (AoK0a)

46 I'd bet ol' Dad there is into Adult Nursing himself, looks like. I bet he sucks 'em too.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 31, 2016 06:34 PM (DW+jj)

47 >>Do I dare ask her who he was to us? Life's mysteries are best left mysterious and shit.

Posted by: garrett at July 31, 2016 06:35 PM (HJQI1)

48 Whut? Posted by: Oedipus at July 31, 2016 11:33 PM (jO7js) Hey Motherf*cker!

Posted by: Josephus from History of the World at July 31, 2016 06:35 PM (3ZoRf)

49 Hey all, how is the ONT? Long day here, had to work. Tomorrow will be better.

Posted by: Farmer at July 31, 2016 06:35 PM (o/90i)

50 Hillary has been running since 1993.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 06:35 PM (MlXgU)

51 The smart winners change the world with philanthropic efforts, .... Financed by the earnings on the lotto $.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 31, 2016 06:35 PM (jO7js)

52 Had to be careful not to sock a regular there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 31, 2016 06:35 PM (3ZoRf)

53 Um, your brother gets convicted of murder and then no one will hire you? I'm a little doubtful of that one. Call me jaded over these stories anymore. The "deep" space article is junk. Too small of a sample size to tell. Also had caught last few minutes of some Muslim chick in hijab who it on US Olympic fencing team complaining about the looks she gets. Just freaking tired of Muslims and wish they would move to one of their own countries and leave us alone.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 31, 2016 06:35 PM (Ee2nz)

54 >>Hillary has been running since 1993. In a pant suit. With those thighs. ... imagine the chaffing.

Posted by: garrett at July 31, 2016 06:36 PM (HJQI1)

55 Anyone who has gone on a camping trip with a group of friends knows how socialism works. We bring the boat, and the food and the beer. Then we drive the boat, and cook the food and there's no beer left when we're ready to relax.

Posted by: Kalneva at July 31, 2016 06:36 PM (vhW1R)

56 Double wall of shame again. Oy. Now off to read some of the articles...

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 31, 2016 06:36 PM (0mRoj)

57 Danny Glover should be picking the peppers in Hugoland, too. Fucktard.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 31, 2016 06:37 PM (89T5c)

58 The time to stop breast feeding is NLT when the first tooth comes in.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 31, 2016 06:37 PM (P/kVC)

59 Jesse, we have to cook.

Posted by: Heisenberg at July 31, 2016 06:37 PM (VdICR)

60 Evenin' Blanco Basura Happy Monsoon-ish.

Posted by: Adriane the Sports Ilustrated Swimsuit Edition Critic ... at July 31, 2016 06:37 PM (AoK0a)

61 Also had caught last few minutes of some Muslim chick in hijab who it on US Olympic fencing team complaining about the looks she gets. Just freaking tired of Muslims and wish they would move to one of their own countries and leave us alone. Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 31, 2016 11:35 PM (Ee2nz) Don't fencers wear a full-body uniform & face mask? How would anyone know?

Posted by: josephistan at July 31, 2016 06:37 PM (7qAYi)

62 re the meth dealin' lotto winner --

At least he didn't blow it all on hookers and blow.
 
Also, shades of John DeLorean (who btw beat the federal rap even though he was caught with 59 pounds of cocaine; entrapment defense ftw)

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at July 31, 2016 06:38 PM (gyKtp)

63 work has been keeping me busy.

Posted by: rich@gmu at July 31, 2016 11:31 PM (Rd2Di)


Actually, that sounds like very good these days!

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at July 31, 2016 06:38 PM (wYnyS)

64 Yeesh. House Lannister that family ain't.

Posted by: josephistan at July 31, 2016 06:38 PM (7qAYi)

65 44 Okay, here we go: Not long ago, a very close family friend died. I say 'family friend' but he was more my mother's friend than my step-father's. My bio-father, I never met, and know nothing about. My mother's first husband was, I'm told a beast and a reprobate, and kept his distance on pain of slow death at the hands of my mother's family. I remember him - my mother's friend - always being around when I was young. When we moved from the middle of nowhere to a suburb of the capital, he moved, too. I know they went to college together, and that I was born while she was working on her master's. There's an album full of photos of me, taken by him - he was a professional photographer, and fairly well-known. When my mother remarried, he sort of faded away, but when I showed an interest in photography, back he popped up again, and the man taught me most of what I know about the subject, which is not a little. As I say, he died recently, and my mother, after mentioning that she'd attend his funeral (same small town, after all), added that my stepfather was being unpleasant. A few days ago, I got a package from home. A big one. It was his 8x10 portrait camera - had his name engraved on the bottom - and a note from my mother reading, 'He wanted you to have this.' Do I dare ask her who he was to us? Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 11:33 PM (E1RZH) No. Seriously, no. Why would your mom gaslight you like that?

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 06:38 PM (MlXgU)

66 Time for bed. Goodnight, Horde.

Posted by: josephistan at July 31, 2016 06:39 PM (7qAYi)

67 Do I dare ask her who he was to us? Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 11:33 PM (E1RZH) He was a person who enjoyed teaching you photography & hoped you would continue to enjoy it ...

Posted by: Adriane the Sports Ilustrated Swimsuit Edition Critic ... at July 31, 2016 06:39 PM (AoK0a)

68 I ran across this gem on wikipedia... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Ishak Baba excited his followers to do armed "jihad" (misusing an Islamic term to satisfy his personal objectives, against the sultan's regime That's right kids, the JOOOZ and FAUXNEWS have been mislabeling what Jihad really means since at least 1239!

Posted by: 18-1 at July 31, 2016 06:40 PM (pibXr)

69 Don't fencers wear a full-body uniform & face mask? How would anyone know? Posted by: josephistan at July 31, 2016 11:37 PM (7qAYi) She was talking about when she was out and about in her regular life. Just tired of the propaganda campaign by the MSM/Uniparty.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 31, 2016 06:41 PM (Ee2nz)

70 Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 31, 2016 11:35 PM (Ee2nz)


I continue to be amazed at how awful this US of A is and yet somehow none of these goat kcufers ever leave and go back to one of those "perfect" countries in the ME.

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at July 31, 2016 06:41 PM (wYnyS)

71 And, if there is an undeveloped plate / negative in the camera - Destroy It.

Posted by: garrett at July 31, 2016 06:41 PM (HJQI1)

72 Posted by: Hrothgar at July 31, 2016 11:38 PM (wYnyS) Yea, I shouldn't complain. I could do without the commute though.

Posted by: rich@gmu at July 31, 2016 06:41 PM (Rd2Di)

73 Mrs Six and I saw the new Star Trek movie this afternoon; we enjoyed it tremendously.

Posted by: Sixkiller...TEXIT at July 31, 2016 06:42 PM (yxupc)

74 Cactus - That's what's bothering me about it all. There's no reason she should. But there's no reason he should remember me - haven't seen him or spoken to him in a quarter century.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 06:42 PM (E1RZH)

75 Do I dare ask her who he was to us? Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 11:33 PM (E1RZH) Regardless of any other definitions of who he was to y'all, he was a good man to you and your mother. That alone is a blessing. My upbringing had similarities to yours, albeit I knew my dad. But, a harsh divorce put many years between us. Before my Mom passed, I knew her last suitor. They could never "be together" because....reasons. But, he was a good man to her. And y'know? I'm glad she knew that bit of happiness and joy, before her final days only two years later. He taught me how to shoot blackpowder. That lesson, stuck. He tried to teach me how to play golf. That lesson, failed. But he was a good man to me, too. Can't tell you which way to roll with things, amigo. But be thankful you had a good man in your world, even if only for a season. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 31, 2016 06:42 PM (v5iqM)

76 It was his 8x10 portrait camera - had his name engraved on the bottom - and a note from my mother reading, 'He wanted you to have this.' Do I dare ask her who he was to us? Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 11:33 PM (E1RZH) Given this story, he was 'around' even when he wasn't seen, I think. There's definitely a "there" there. You don't sound like a spring chicken yourself, so your mother may be getting to an age where she'd like to unburden. I think it would be worth the risk, if it is that important to you. as always, remember they call us Morons. take that into your calculus.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 31, 2016 06:43 PM (kKHcp)

77 And then the jobs they WERE doing will now come to a halt or be delayed thus the cascade of failure that command economies always come to eventually.

Every. Damn. One of them has failed thusly. (unless the people realized what was happening or reached their limits and revolted)

Yet some goo goo eyed bleeding heart young twit gets it in mind that the universe is unfair and that they and they alone have the answer that can fix that.

There should be a law against that sort of thinking but then that's a slippery slope too.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 31, 2016 06:43 PM (ECJ+C)

78 Garrett - First thing I did after picking up my jaw was to check for film/plate. Empty.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 06:43 PM (E1RZH)

79 >>First thing I did after picking up my jaw was to check for film/plate. Ex is/was a photographer. I know how you people think!

Posted by: garrett at July 31, 2016 06:44 PM (HJQI1)

80 In two weeks, the free-range moochers have managed to rake in a stunning 245 pounds out of their goal of 100,000 pounds of other people's money necessary to achieve "self-sufficiency".

Posted by: pockets of sanity remain at July 31, 2016 06:44 PM (vPc9h)

81 [Beautiful things don't ask for attention. ] Those British neo-hippies who want to go to Costa Rica could benefit from getting on the grid and reading the unintentionally hilarious dispatches from Costa Rica of one "One Pissed Off Liberal" of Daily Kos. I watched it unfold in real time. It took about three months total. Berkeley idiot has been unemployed for ages for some reason -- he's an instructional designer and hasn't had a gig in maybe a decade. So he decides to chuck the shitty U.S. of A. with its non-free health care, bigots, rat races, white people, processed food, world-threatening air conditioning, etc. and go to paradisaical Costa Rica. He's mugged by reality within a week. All the affordable huts are "e. coli factories" by his reckoning, and he finds himself moving unhappily from hut to hut. Next, he realizes he's in a damn jungle with no air conditioning. He has to soak his hats in vinegar to keep them from getting moldy. The overhead fan does nothing but stir the hot, steamy air. Then there's the people. The locals are all thieves and con-men. His fellow expats are Americans who barely give him the time of day, or loud, drunken, narcissistic, bigoted Europeans who curse the natives and the weather. Then there's the lifestyle. No Chinese restaurants! No Italian! No gourmet burgers! It's all this Costa Rican food day after day, night after night. No cinemas, no clubs, no hangouts where he speaks the language (of course he isn't learning Spanish). Oh, and medical care? Through the roof. He thought America was the only country in the world where you have to pay for high-quality medical care. He spent a fortune on I can't remember what -- he had an infection or mosquito bites or diarrhea or something that he never got in Berkeley. He's back in the racist hellhole of America, never to leave. He was real popular among the Kooks until he proved to be a recalcitrant Berniebot. (I accidentally posted in the previous thread. Boy was I shocked when I saw I was comment 756.)

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at July 31, 2016 06:45 PM (5o5ek)

82 Posted by: Hrothgar at July 31, 2016 11:41 PM (wYnyS) Yep, white people are the worst people on the planet. Let's move to their countries. Avik Roy is babbling to a VOX reporter about how the GOP is doomed because it is a white nationalist party full of old white people.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 31, 2016 06:45 PM (Ee2nz)

83 here is another take on Maduro's forced labor move

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jhl8wsm

Note that the military has been given control of the economy.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2016 06:45 PM (ry34m)

84 /black hat off

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 31, 2016 06:46 PM (VdICR)

85 So how exactly does Sesame Street on HBO work - is it not a premium cable channel that requires one to purchase it?

How then does this remain a Public broadcast??

We, the taxpayers, are no longer funding this, right?

And was HBO allowed to purchase the rights to the various characters - elmo dolls, big-bird emblazoned carseats and onesies - are they now profiting on characters that were created by government-funded people?

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at July 31, 2016 06:49 PM (NOIQH)

86 wikipedia.org/wiki/Ace_of_Spades_(junction)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 31, 2016 11:28 PM (kdS6q)


How bizarre.  I was just reading a Manning Coles spy novel, No Lawful  Authority, set in the 30's that mentioned this.  How odd.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2016 06:49 PM (ry34m)

87 Jim and Oneeyedjack - I think you're right. At a minimum, the man cared for her, and for me, and seems to have carried a torch. And, yeah, my mother's 70...... things start coming out around that age. Or later. It wasn't until my greatgrandmother's baby sister died at ahe 103 that I learned why they were estranged. My greatgrandmother learned there had been an affair and a child.... 80 years til that came out.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 06:49 PM (E1RZH)

88 And Unions do the same thing for their members.

No strike has EVER recouped the losses from the lack of work during the strike.

No new contract has ever made up that money or the productivity of the company.

And it's a total ripoff of the union members local citizens.

Contract Union wages rely on their fellow citizens working for less that they will receive from their union contract. Otherwise the cost of living will always outstrip the contracted wages.

Most of Union contracts are concerned with controlling the size of the work force, the rules forced on the employer that decrease productivity and the opportunity for certain members to rake in a wind fall because of the contract. (which of course a percentage is taken out of their pay and handed to the Union bosses.)

Unions are socialist.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 31, 2016 06:50 PM (ECJ+C)

89 So now Venezuela is enslaving its own people? Why not just give them privately owned plots of land and let them farm it themselves, and GTFO of their lives? You'd think by now they'd have had enough.

Posted by: Yuimetal at July 31, 2016 06:50 PM (CCM9V)

90 Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 11:49 PM (NOIQH)


"Shut up!" your betters explained!

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at July 31, 2016 06:50 PM (wYnyS)

91 re filthy hippies: "so they can move to Costa Rica and more fully live their lifestyle."

We don't fucking want them. Anyway, if they think it's easy being a dipshit off-the-grid eco-loon here they've got another think coming. CR isn't some Shangri-La where you can let your freak flag fly. It's a modern, technologically-developed country with all the social security stuff you'd expect. The authorities will want to be assured those kids are being schooled, fed etc.. And it's not a whole lot less expensive than the UK. A single person can get by here with European or US-style standard of living for about $40,000 a year, but not really much less. A family needs a hundred grand p.a. to be really comfortable.

Posted by: David Gillies at July 31, 2016 06:50 PM (tjHrt)

92 Can Jeb and Paul Ryan just shut the hell up?

Posted by: Patrick Henry at July 31, 2016 06:50 PM (u+0lh)

93 ONT FTW!

Posted by: sinalco at July 31, 2016 06:51 PM (yODqO)

94 Which preezy dsiabled the most in his two terms?
Bubba or Obambi?

I will wiki it.
BJC:
DADT
Closing existing domestic bases.

Posted by: Goldbeard at July 31, 2016 06:51 PM (8qVq6)

95 20 Hey, UK? Toddler breast feeding, sleeping in the same bed - you all know there's child abuse going on, right? I mean, I know you didn't care when muslims were doing it, but these ar white people. It's OK to arrest them. Posted by: josephistan at July 31, 2016 11:28 PM (7qAYi) Don't those 2 creepy Brits have parents who could knock 'em up one side the head?

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 31, 2016 06:51 PM (+lVUW)

96 Should be a good ONT. The Horde oh Plenty seems to be chompin at the bit, if the previous thread is any indication. HordeSource, Brilliant wordsmithin Uncle Palp. Plus 10 good sir. An it got me thinkin... Why not feature the HordeSource's combined expertise. Possibilities from a daily column, just think....An hour or two prior to the ONT, a thread devoted to finding solutions for problems. Those solutions are derived/provided by the HordeSource. Given the consistent helpfulness already on display here, it could be popular. At the least, a weekly, (weekend, maybe) column/thread. Like gardening and books, a specialized discussion. Anyways....Evenin Y'all. Hope all is well.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at July 31, 2016 06:52 PM (YGNZj)

97 And I knew the fix was in as soon as Obama made Hillary SoS.

That was her payoff and spring board once Obama left office.

We all knew it then.

If the idiots in Congress let their go along to get along attitude allow Hillary to become President, I will not wait for the revolution. I will join any and all efforts to destroy the Republican party.

Because there won't be anything left to do as this country will be in the dumper and martial law will be in force.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 31, 2016 06:52 PM (ECJ+C)

98 So how exactly does Sesame Street on HBO work - is it not a premium cable channel that requires one to purchase it? How then does this remain a Public broadcast?? We, the taxpayers, are no longer funding this, right? And was HBO allowed to purchase the rights to the various characters - elmo dolls, big-bird emblazoned carseats and onesies - are they now profiting on characters that were created by government-funded people? Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 11:49 PM (NOIQH) I think, and I very well could be wrong, is that CTW sells SS to PBS and other stations. CTW technically gets no public money and makes a fortune off of merchandising. The last time I saw SS (late 90's early 00's) is was repetitive and boring. Only a fool lets their kid watch a lot of PBS, Disney, or Nick.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 31, 2016 06:53 PM (Ee2nz)

99 75 Do I dare ask her who he was to us? Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 11:33 PM (E1RZH) Regardless of any other definitions of who he was to y'all, he was a good man to you and your mother. That alone is a blessing. My upbringing had similarities to yours, albeit I knew my dad. But, a harsh divorce put many years between us. Before my Mom passed, I knew her last suitor. They could never "be together" because....reasons. But, he was a good man to her. And y'know? I'm glad she knew that bit of happiness and joy, before her final days only two years later. He taught me how to shoot blackpowder. That lesson, stuck. He tried to teach me how to play golf. That lesson, failed. But he was a good man to me, too. Can't tell you which way to roll with things, amigo. But be thankful you had a good man in your world, even if only for a season. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at July 31, 2016 11:42 PM (v5iqM) This is the most mature and healthy way to deal with it. Just take it on face value. People act and do things while grieving and when on their death bead that does not make sense to the outside world. For example, my dad gave a watch to one of his Special Forces Friends just before he died to give to me. Well on the back of the watch was the name of a girl with a date. For over a decade I was chasing what I thought was a sister. I told Momma Cactus about it last Christmas, and she laughed saying he grabbed the watch at a bar thinking it was his and didnot know there was an engraving on the back because he was blind from the optical nueroplathy. We had a laugh about it.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 06:53 PM (MlXgU)

100 Jim and Oneeyedjack - I think you're right. At a minimum, the man cared for her, and for me, and seems to have carried a torch. And, yeah, my mother's 70...... things start coming out around that age. Or later. It wasn't until my greatgrandmother's baby sister died at ahe 103 that I learned why they were estranged. My greatgrandmother learned there had been an affair and a child.... 80 years til that came out. Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 11:49 PM (E1RZH) Then the act of your mom ensuring that camera reached you, was her effort towards a subtle invitation as to your inquiry. Nothing more, nothing less. She's left it up to you, as to pursue the matter, as I see it. Sadly, my mom passed in '78, at the ripe olde age of 54. We didn't get to have many of those conversations. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 31, 2016 06:53 PM (v5iqM)

101 And looking at those two in that picture makes me want to go take a shower.

They truly are unclean.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at July 31, 2016 06:54 PM (ECJ+C)

102 Do I dare ask her who he was to us? Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 11:33 PM (E1RZH) I'd ask. That's just as a long time family genealogist and historian. The closer you get to truth, the better. JMHO

Posted by: Farmer at July 31, 2016 06:54 PM (o/90i)

103 Do I dare ask her who he was to us?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 11:33 PM (E1RZH)

Maybe ask the halfway question. What does she know about the cameras history.

Posted by: George Costanza at July 31, 2016 06:54 PM (BZey7)

104 Questions someone should be asking Khan Do you renounce sharia? Given the large number of Imams globally who seem to support such things as jihad, sex slaves, throwing gays off buildings - are they apostate in your eyes?

Posted by: Patrick Henry at July 31, 2016 06:54 PM (u+0lh)

105 I have never understood how, if one reads the history of the world, anyone could support socialism or any other flavor of statism. I suppose that lack of reading that history is one of the problems. Good evening, Horde. How's everyone?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 31, 2016 06:55 PM (rJUlF)

106 44 Okay, here we go:

Not long ago, a very close family friend died. I say 'family friend' but he was more my mother's friend than my step-father's. My bio-father, I never met, and know nothing about. My mother's first husband was, I'm told a beast and a reprobate, and kept his distance on pain of slow death at the hands of my mother's family.

I remember him - my mother's friend - always being around when I was young. When we moved from the middle of nowhere to a suburb of the capital, he moved, too.

I know they went to college together, and that I was born while she was working on her master's.

There's an album full of photos of me, taken by him - he was a professional photographer, and fairly well-known.

When my mother remarried, he sort of faded away, but when I showed an interest in photography, back he popped up again, and the man taught me most of what I know about the subject, which is not a little.

As I say, he died recently, and my mother, after mentioning that she'd attend his funeral (same small town, after all), added that my stepfather was being unpleasant.

A few days ago, I got a package from home. A big one.

It was his 8x10 portrait camera - had his name engraved on the bottom - and a note from my mother reading, 'He wanted you to have this.'

Do I dare ask her who he was to us?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 11:33 PM (E1RZH)



Who do you look like?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 31, 2016 06:55 PM (EzgxV)

107 End Stages of Socialism: Venezuela's Socialist Government Gives Itself the Power To Require Forced Farm Labor -------------------- Yes, and unlike Stalin's collectivization of the early 1930s and Mao's Great Leap Forward of the 1950s, THIS time central government control of food production will not result in mass starvation.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at July 31, 2016 06:55 PM (5o5ek)

108 So now Venezuela is enslaving its own people? Why not just give them privately owned plots of land and let them farm it themselves, and GTFO of their lives? 40 acres and a water buffalo.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 31, 2016 06:56 PM (IqV8l)

109 104 Questions someone should be asking Khan ----------------------------- Why does Khan want his son's killers to come to America?

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at July 31, 2016 06:56 PM (5o5ek)

110  Crap left on a sock for a serious post.

Posted by: Willy J. at July 31, 2016 06:57 PM (BZey7)

111 Can Jeb and Paul Ryan just shut the hell up? Posted by: Patrick Henry at July 31, 2016 11:50 PM (u+0lh) If only they would. I think Ryan is a free trade zealot who believes if we drop our borders to anyone and anything we'll achieve some economic and cultural utopia. People who believe in any sort of earthly utopia are to be stopped because it's impossible. Their schemes always result in hell on earth.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 31, 2016 06:57 PM (Ee2nz)

112 ... the unintentionally hilarious dispatches from Costa Rica of one "One Pissed Off Liberal" of Daily Kos. If this is the sequence I think it is (from a link of Facebook from Minneapolis), you forgot to mention one critically important point ... "all this Costa Rican food day after day, night after night REALLY MEANS ... getting out and hunting the next meal. Not just foraging for fruits, berries, etc., oh no, but actually HUNTING. They themselves gloss over this point, as they mention it very briefly, but yes, protein is needed ... and I suppose that ants and lizards get ... old ... rather quickly, particularly when one is used to Chez Pannise and the other establishments on Shattuck. The series of articles is an excellent study in Leftists colliding with Major Reality Butt Hurt. 5 stars.

Posted by: Arbalest at July 31, 2016 06:58 PM (FlRtG)

113 So now Venezuela is enslaving its own people? Why not just give them privately owned plots of land and let them farm it themselves, and GTFO of their lives? ----------------------- They'll farm it all wrong. They'll sell it all wrong. They'll cook it all wrong. They'll eat it all wrong. Venannyzuela knows best.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at July 31, 2016 06:58 PM (5o5ek)

114 Cactus - Heh. Life is weird that way, ain't it? My angel and all her sisters are named for her father's former girlfriends. And her grandfather was given up for dead in WWII and his wife remarried, as did he, thinking her dead. After the war, they both went back to their home village. Their spouses met, then the four of them (five, if you count his son by his second wife) went to consult a priest. Priest said, 'None of you have sinned. But your second.marriages are no longer valid.' Their second spouses married each other and called it a day.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 06:58 PM (E1RZH)

115 Who do you look like? Posted by: cthulhu at July 31, 2016 11:55 PM (EzgxV) Bwahahaha! See? That's the delicate and subtle that HAD to happen. cthulhu; doing the job regular morons won't do.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 31, 2016 06:59 PM (kKHcp)

116 Wasn't Venezuela a viable economy just as short as 10 years ago? And now the next step after this last one is digging the lime pits? Well! It's a good thing the citizenry don't have the right to keep and bear arms, or that country would really be fucked up, wouldn't it?

Posted by: Sharkman at July 31, 2016 06:59 PM (CS7jF)

117 I had a lovely weekend out in the wilds of Porcupine campground near Hope, AK. Marvellously quiet, just the ocean, the breeze in the trees and an occassional gull harassing an eagle or griping about the lack of good fish guts on the riverbank. You could hear the AK RR passing on the opposite side of the inlet, but faintly, and there were plenty of salmon in the Ressurrection River. It just tastes better cooked over a campfire. So, now, back into the jaws of the beast on Monday. But now I have a new happy place...

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 31, 2016 07:00 PM (+YMhA)

118 Socialists be stupid. Venezuela's ag sector isn't underperforming because of lack of labor; most likely it's due to lack of cash to buy inputs, like seed, and fertilizer, and fuel for the equipment. You can enslave half a million people, and break many, many acres of ground, but if you don't have seed to stick in the ground, you're not going to get a crop.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 31, 2016 07:00 PM (f3Uae)

119 102 Do I dare ask her who he was to us? Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 11:33 PM (E1RZH) I'd ask. That's just as a long time family genealogist and historian. The closer you get to truth, the better. JMHO Posted by: Farmer at July 31, 2016 11:54 PM (o/90i) I share this opinion, but I'm also insatiably curious and sometimes lacking in tact.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 31, 2016 07:00 PM (0mRoj)

120 That's right kids, the JOOOZ and FAUXNEWS have been mislabeling what Jihad really means since at least 1239! And every terrorist and terror-supporting mullah and imam of the past 40 years although I realize (of course!) that they're not "real" Moslems.

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at July 31, 2016 07:00 PM (LdMbv)

121 Cooth - I don't know how my father looked, but feom his family name, I know they were balkan jews. I look like my greatgrandfather on my mother's side.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 07:01 PM (E1RZH)

122
Do I dare ask her who he was to us?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016

It could be simple-- if he didn't have kids of his own, and he taught you a lot of photography, it was natural that the camera would go to you.

Or it could be something entirely different.

Question: Would you want to know if it was something else?

Sometimes not knowing is better than knowing.


Posted by: shibumi who needs new anti rage medication at July 31, 2016 07:01 PM (tvyXw)

123 Venezuela is not the US!!!!

Socialism will work here. Hilly will make sure of that!!!!!

Posted by: Liberals Everywhere at July 31, 2016 07:02 PM (tvyXw)

124 You tell farmers that they have to sell their crops for less than it costs to produce them, and guess what? Farmers stop producing crops. I guess that's a tough concept for some to grasp.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 31, 2016 07:02 PM (/wm8n)

125 The Venezuelan gubmint is also pushing collectives aka communes to become self sufficient in growing food. The acronym of this program is CLAP. mmmm hmmm
 
The local CLAP showed a reporter a barren field "that they hope to have ready for planting in 8 months".
 
I don't suppose they did any reading about the early years of the Plymouth colony.
 
Putin is also pushing the creation of Russian 'self sufficiency' mainly because they have lost access to much foreign financing because of his adventures in Crimea and Ukraine.

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at July 31, 2016 07:02 PM (gyKtp)

126 Filthy fookin' hippies. You want to live off the grid, then live off the fucking grid. Off the grid includes being detached from the government teat. Shmucks.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 31, 2016 07:03 PM (0mRoj)

127 Hey everybody. Got something to tell you all about, and hope this doesn't sound too much like a commercial: my cousin Doreen's husband, Shaun, is the owner of a fairly successful server/networking business in Colorado. But back in the day he was with a talented hard rock band called Gasoline Alley, which made a halfway decent effort to get signed, and from what I've heard came close a few times. Anyway it never happened, but the members have gotten back together just in the past year, reformed as "Power," and have independently released an album. I went to see 'em last night at a hole-in-the-wall live venue in Van Nuys and was very pleasantly surprised by what I heard and saw. I videotaped two of the songs they performed live last night with my handy dandy point-and-shoot Canon and will have those up on YouTube soon, but in the meantime, here's the album; it's on sale at iTunes, Amazon and Spotify, at least. Sean described their sound to me as Queensryche meets Journey, and he wasn't kidding; tuneful and hard-driving. Anyway, I hope a few of you at least will give 'em a try, and as I said, I plan to have my video of them up soon. Power - Restored http://tinyurl.com/gvew2os

Posted by: qdpsteve at July 31, 2016 07:03 PM (q7T0y)

128 I realize (of course!) that they're not "real" Moslems. Posted by: andycanuck at August 01, 2016 12:00 AM http://tinyurl.com/zs4wx8p

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 31, 2016 07:03 PM (IqV8l)

129 Yeah, not making any decisions tonight. 'Never make important decisions outside of banking hours,' my grandfather told me.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 07:04 PM (E1RZH)

130 123 Venezuela is not the US!!!! Socialism will work here. Hilly will make sure of that!!!!! Posted by: Liberals Everywhere at August 01, 2016 12:02 AM (tvyXw)

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 31, 2016 07:05 PM (+YMhA)

131 You tell farmers that they have to sell their crops for less than it costs to produce them, and guess what? Farmers stop producing crops. ///

A lot of the worlds problems would be solved if politicians had to live on the real world value of what they produce.

Posted by: Willy J. at July 31, 2016 07:05 PM (BZey7)

132 123 Venezuela is not the US!!!! Socialism will work here. Hilly will make sure of that!!!!! Posted by: Liberals Everywhere at August 01, 2016 12:02 AM (tvyXw) Oops. Well, it will certainly work FOR Hillary. Not the rest of us, but certainly for her.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 31, 2016 07:06 PM (+YMhA)

133 A lot of the worlds problems would be solved if politicians had to live on the real world value of what they produce. Posted by: Willy J. at August 01, 2016 12:05 AM (BZey7) That would be nothing, meaning they would rapidly starve. Ah, I get it now.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 31, 2016 07:06 PM (0mRoj)

134 That's what's bothering me about it all. There's no reason she should.

But there's no reason he should remember me - haven't seen him or spoken to him in a quarter century.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 11:42 PM (E1RZH)


You know, bright kids stick in your mind.  Sometimes you wish you could have been around to see how they turn out, and think you could have done something to make their lives better or easier or meaningful.

Sometimes you see them again as adults, sometimes through other peoples' comments and from a distance, and it breaks your heart to realize that this is what you missed out, for some reason, being a part of.

It is a gift.  Take it and do good things with it.  Like what you did with his example and his teaching.  I wouldn't over-think it. 

(says the guy who broods a lot on what might have been)

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2016 07:06 PM (ry34m)

135 Adult Nursing (+ supermodels) MUST! NOT! GOOGLE!

Posted by: Sharkman at July 31, 2016 07:06 PM (CS7jF)

136 RE: Rio, sure, there will be some scuffles. Like at the DNC/ RNC  conventions.And there will probably be dead bodies/human waste floating by the people in the rowing competitions. And a commentator or two will get Zika.

 But no major terror event.

The stupid and incompetent seem to be protected by other forces.

Posted by: shibumi who needs new anti rage medication at July 31, 2016 07:06 PM (tvyXw)

137 Princess Chelsea will never go hungry. You can bet on that.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 31, 2016 07:07 PM (/wm8n)

138 117 I had a lovely weekend out in the wilds of Porcupine campground near Hope, AK. Marvellously quiet, just the ocean, the breeze in the trees and an occassional gull harassing an eagle or griping about the lack of good fish guts on the riverbank. You could hear the AK RR passing on the opposite side of the inlet, but faintly, and there were plenty of salmon in the Ressurrection River. It just tastes better cooked over a campfire. So, now, back into the jaws of the beast on Monday. But now I have a new happy place... Posted by: tcn in AK at August 01, 2016 12:00 AM (+YMhA) At first glance, I thought you'd mentioned Hope, Arkansas..... till of course, I saw the mention of salt water, and saw your nic from AK. Hope, Arkansas, needs to be condemned as an EPA Superfund Site. All kinds of diseases emanating from there, seeming to vector from a rusted out old El Caminio, left to rot behind the Planned Parenthood clinic. Take off and nuke it from orbit, etc., inc. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 31, 2016 07:07 PM (v5iqM)

139 44 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 11:33 PM (E1RZH)

No, not in front of your step-father nor in all honesty probably of your mother.

History is a fabric made of omissions, truths, and lies and sometimes it is better to assume the quit is mostly one or the other.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 31, 2016 07:07 PM (SzZnW)

140 135 Adult Nursing (+ supermodels) MUST! NOT! GOOGLE! Posted by: Sharkman at August 01, 2016 12:06 AM (CS7jF) Unless you've got a lactation fetish, I wouldn't look that one up...

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 31, 2016 07:07 PM (0mRoj)

141 Big thanks to JJ Sefton for saving me from ignominy, and congrats/commiserations to all the top tens....

that's the news and I am outta here.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 31, 2016 07:07 PM (SzZnW)

142 Thank you for #128. Now bookmarked for future use.

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at July 31, 2016 07:08 PM (LdMbv)

143 I do wish the political parasites that have been running this country would remember that killing the host is never all that great for the parasite. At some point, the host will die. Many of us are living mightily close to the bone. But those fat wigglers just keep getting fatter. Hillary, I'm looking at you.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 31, 2016 07:08 PM (+YMhA)

144 (says the guy who broods a lot on what might have been) Posted by: Kindltot at August 01, 2016 12:06 AM (ry34m) Join the miserable fucking club...

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 31, 2016 07:08 PM (0mRoj)

145 It's unclear how the family sustains itself outside of all sleeping together in the same room and dining on mom's tit porridge. "Tit porridge"... that there be pure poetry.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 31, 2016 07:09 PM (BK3ZS)

146 53 Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 31, 2016 11:35 PM (Ee2nz)

His brother was hired in to coaching BECAUSE he was the Patsie's TE's brother.....when he went bad it removed the reason the guy got hired.

Posted by: sven10077 at July 31, 2016 07:09 PM (SzZnW)

147 Damn. Had a Bat get in the house. He was none too happy about getting forcibly evicted.

Posted by: garrett at July 31, 2016 07:10 PM (HJQI1)

148 Take off and nuke it from orbit, etc., inc. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at August 01, 2016 12:07 AM (v5iqM) Arkansas? Not with a 5,000 mile pole.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 31, 2016 07:10 PM (+YMhA)

149 I do wish the political parasites that have been running this country would remember that killing the host is never all that great for the parasite. At some point, the host will die. Many of us are living mightily close to the bone. But those fat wigglers just keep getting fatter. Hillary, I'm looking at you
---

Hillary doesn't need the peons. At all. 90% of us could die and it would not matter to her or her political party.

All she has to do is print more money, and as long as she has security, a staff and her finger on the big red nuke button, she's good.

/sorry to be so pessimistic. Really feeling that the fix is in and Hillary will win no matter what.

Posted by: shibumi who needs new anti rage medication at July 31, 2016 07:11 PM (tvyXw)

150 >>I think, and I very well could be wrong, is that CTW sells SS to PBS and other stations. CTW technically gets no public money and makes a fortune off of merchandising.


And yet when someone like Romney wants to cut PBS funding everyone screams about "killing Big Bird".

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at July 31, 2016 07:11 PM (NOIQH)

151 So, the nature babies who want us to pay them to move to Costa Rica? Without vaccinations? I give 'em about 4 years life expectancy there. I've been to Guatemala. The country is beautiful, the sewer systems not so much.

Posted by: tcn in AK at July 31, 2016 07:12 PM (+YMhA)

152 Now that Vuvuzuela has gone all Red Guards on itself, can the Castros still keep afloat?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 31, 2016 07:12 PM (BK3ZS)

153 If this is the sequence I think it is (from a link of Facebook from Minneapolis), you forgot to mention one critically important point ... "all this Costa Rican food day after day, night after night REALLY MEANS ... getting out and hunting the next meal. ----------------------- Arbalest, I don't know about the Facebook link, but I wouldn't be surprised if some free-thinking lurker also saw that series and had something to say about it. I don't recall the hunting issue, but I don't doubt it.

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at July 31, 2016 07:12 PM (5o5ek)

154 Uncle Palpatine I have a device I use when I get into a situation where I'm confused as to the right action. It does require sorting all the possible actions and outcomes down to a binary choice, though. It's called a coin flip. Don't laugh, it works. If you tell yourself you will abide by the outcome of a coin flip, you will know after the flip if it landed right or wrong. I mean, you'll have an emotional reaction regardless of which side comes up. Then you'll know what your heart and soul wants. Whether or not your brain over-rides it is another story, but you will know what you want.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 31, 2016 07:13 PM (kKHcp)

155 Off to booze, brood, and snooze. Thanks for the input. Lotta stuff to think about.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 07:13 PM (E1RZH)

156 105 I have never understood how, if one reads the history of the world, anyone could support socialism or any other flavor of statism.

I suppose that lack of reading that history is one of the problems.

Good evening, Horde. How's everyone?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 31, 2016 11:55 PM (rJUlF)



Ahoy, Cap'n -- how are the seas???

Posted by: cthulhu at July 31, 2016 07:13 PM (EzgxV)

157 You know, bright kids stick in your mind. Posted by: Kindltot at August 01, 2016 12:06 AM (ry34m)


I can attest to that.  Over two decades ago, I taught a Sunday School class of fifth and sixth graders.  There were a couple of them who I could tell were very intelligent, and wise for their years.  One of them found me on Facebook recently.  It turns out she lives less than 50 miles away now with a family of her own.   I was only her teacher for a year or so, but knowing she grew up to be a well-adjusted adult helps me feel a little better about the world.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 31, 2016 07:14 PM (rJUlF)

158 116 Wasn't Venezuela a viable economy just as short as 10 years ago? And now the next step after this last one is digging the lime pits? Well! It's a good thing the citizenry don't have the right to keep and bear arms, or that country would really be fucked up, wouldn't it? Posted by: Sharkman at July 31, 2016 11:59 PM (CS7jF) sort of. Having oil at 130/bbl in the recent past patched over the problems, but since it was a state-owned enterprise, it lead the way in the downfall. Chavez was able to ruin them first (PDVSA).

Posted by: rich@gmu at July 31, 2016 07:15 PM (Rd2Di)

159 Hey, cooth!


Doing well.  Life goes on.  That's a pretty good thing in itself.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 31, 2016 07:15 PM (rJUlF)

160 Sadly, my mom passed in '78, at the ripe olde age of 54. We didn't get to have many of those conversations. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at July 31, 2016 11:53 PM Sorry to hear that Jim. My Mom had a heart attack at 67 and had many struggles after that. Died in 2014 at the age of 77. I miss her but understand many lost mothers much earlier. We didn't along all that well, teen yrs were not so hot. I think that might be kinda normal.

Posted by: Farmer at July 31, 2016 07:15 PM (o/90i)

161 85 So how exactly does Sesame Street on HBO work - is it not a premium cable channel that requires one to purchase it? How then does this remain a Public broadcast?? We, the taxpayers, are no longer funding this, right? And was HBO allowed to purchase the rights to the various characters - elmo dolls, big-bird emblazoned carseats and onesies - are they now profiting on characters that were created by government-funded people? Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2016 11:49 PM (NOIQH) The Sesame Street production company sells the programming to your local PBS station, and since it is a very popular program, it costs your local PBS station lots of bucks. The deal with HBO gives HBO the "rights" to broadcast the new episodes for about a year, and then after that year, the local PBS gets to broadcast the "new" shows. Supposedly, this will allow them to sell the program to the local PBS for a lot cheaper. BTW, Sesame Street retained all the merchandising rights to their characters, so that even though they generate billions of dollars in merchandise sales, PBS sees zero of it.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 31, 2016 07:16 PM (1JnAL)

162 I have to get to bed soon, and I'm going to watch the second episode of Stranger Things before I do. 

Have a good night, everyone.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 31, 2016 07:19 PM (rJUlF)

163 Good night, Captain.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 31, 2016 07:20 PM (0mRoj)

164 BTW, a possible bomb in a toolbox exploded after it was pushed by a bomb-disposal robot at the main Rio Olympic stadium today. (Unless it was a controlled explosion exploding the suspect toolbox. I guess we'll know more later today.)

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at July 31, 2016 07:20 PM (LdMbv)

165 In two weeks, the free-range moochers have managed to rake in a stunning 245 pounds out of their goal of 100,000 pounds of other people's money necessary to achieve "self-sufficiency". Behold! the awesome powers of a cradle-to-grave welfare state. In times past, fruit loops like these would have gone hungry and homeless and then stone cold dead, together with their idiot ideas.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 31, 2016 07:20 PM (BK3ZS)

166 Watching the Cub game (the Cubbies staged quite a comeback against King Felix). It's in the 12th--there's a hamdouche with the Venezuelan flag behind the plate. And the Marlins guy is behind the plate too.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 31, 2016 07:21 PM (VxHD9)

167 165 Posted by: andycanuck at August 01, 2016 12:20 AM (LdMbv)

No you won't....

//The American Media

Posted by: sven10077 at July 31, 2016 07:22 PM (SzZnW)

168 How long before Venezuelans start starving to death en masse? You know what will happen when they do. "The poor, unfortunate Venezuelans are starving because of America and global warming. We must send them trillions of dollars and import all their women and children. The words 'socialist' and 'drug dealer' are deemed to be bigoted."

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at July 31, 2016 07:22 PM (5o5ek)

169 Moved up from an earlier thread. Link is just to the trailer.

Interesting show was just on my local PBS channel
Heroes on Deck: WWII on Lake Michigan.

http://www.pbs.org/video/2365743085/

Posted by: Willy J. at July 31, 2016 07:23 PM (BZey7)

170 Yeah, Sven. I'm guessing the UK Daily Mail will be linked at Drudge tomorrow with details.

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at July 31, 2016 07:24 PM (LdMbv)

171 It is only when you go beyond rhetoric, and start looking at hard facts, that socialism turns out to be a big disappointment, if not a disaster. Dude! That's harsh. Look, man, here's the deal. When things blow, socialism can fix it. http://preview.tinyurl.com/pf3l398

Posted by: Jesse A. Myerson at July 31, 2016 07:25 PM (CCM9V)

172 Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants, As a mom, imo if you have questions you wish to be answered you should ask them. Soon. Either answer will only bring you closer.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at July 31, 2016 07:25 PM (GzDYP)

173 172 Refugees are storming the Colombia border.
---

Are the Muslim?

And do they have absolutely no skills?

If yes, bring them here, we love unskilled Muslim Useless Eaters!

Posted by: Liberals Everywhere at July 31, 2016 07:26 PM (tvyXw)

174 114--- Their second spouses married each other and called it a day. Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 11:58 PM -------------------------------

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 31, 2016 07:27 PM (T/5A0)

175 Why... WHY... did I just watch Chris Wallass's interview with Cankles from today?

He asks a decent question... she lies her ass off... and he just basically sit there with no follow up, or knowledge/ability/willingness to call out the validity of her spin.

Pa-the-tic.

Posted by: a T-Rex trying to rub one out at July 31, 2016 07:28 PM (H9MG5)

176 121 Cooth -

I don't know how my father looked, but feom his family name, I know they were balkan jews.

I look like my greatgrandfather on my mother's side.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at August 01, 2016 12:01 AM (E1RZH)



We already know about your mother's side.....



I should point out that I'm fully convinced of Baldilocks' analysis of SCOAMF's parentage because he looks nothing like Obama, senior, and quite a lot like Davis. Your approach could become extremely straightforward should you also show clear signs. And, BTW, I should note that knowing where your genes come from can be exceedingly helpful in medical situations -- where knowing where your culture/values come from makes you a family and determines who your ancestors and descendants are.



Get some pictures. And if mom left the door ajar, formulate your questions accordingly. If, for instance, there's an elevated risk of Tay-Sachs (or not), it's something your daughter should know.



IMHO, if someone were sired by A and raised by B, they should always honor B as their father in society and love; while assessing their genome from A.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 31, 2016 07:28 PM (EzgxV)

177 158 116 Wasn't Venezuela a viable economy just as short as 10 years ago? And now the next step after this last one is digging the lime pits? Well! It's a good thing the citizenry don't have the right to keep and bear arms, or that country would really be fucked up, wouldn't it? Posted by: Sharkman at July 31, 2016 11:59 PM (CS7jF) sort of. Having oil at 130/bbl in the recent past patched over the problems, but since it was a state-owned enterprise, it lead the way in the downfall. Chavez was able to ruin them first (PDVSA). Posted by: rich@gmu at August 01, 2016 12:15 AM (Rd2Di) It wasn't really the price of the oil when Chavez was in power, it was that they still had people working production that knew what they were doing and how to maintain the facilities. After Huggy Bear nationalized the oil fields, they lost all of that brain power, and since then their production has been falling and what little profits are made are siphoned off by the regime. Exxon, Shell, or BP would have them swimming in $$$$ if they took over the fields, but after being thrown out years ago, they are a little shy to spend any $$$$ going in there.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at July 31, 2016 07:29 PM (1JnAL)

178 And I told the wifey, "all the Cubs have to do is stop giving up 2-run homers and score 7 runs, and they can with this." Great game.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 31, 2016 07:30 PM (VxHD9)

179 Dude! That's harsh. Look, man, here's the deal. When things blow, socialism can fix it. http://preview.tinyurl.com/pf3l398 Posted by: Jesse A. Myerson at August 01, 2016 12:25 AM That's some weapons grade stupid! I thought I was reading something Onion-ish.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 31, 2016 07:30 PM (IqV8l)

180 I cannot imagine how desperate you would have to be to try to get into Colombia. Of course, Venezuela seems to produce a large number of Miss Universes (Multiverses?), so if I fly into Caracas with some hoagies I have a shot.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 31, 2016 07:31 PM (VxHD9)

181 Hmmphhh. From the last thread where I was going on about tide locking, I got to wondering when the earth would lock with the Moon. A fucking long time. In fact, all sorts of hell, unknown hell can be played with the solar system and the inner planets before it happens.

  And so I got to looking at the future timeline of this here earth, solar system, etc.

   Andromeda is going to collide with the Milky Way before the Sun goes red giant, actually. The error bars are wide because of uncertainties in velocity, but the median time is 4 billion years. Sun goes red giant in 5 billion.

    Life on earth will have ceased to be possible well before then, about 1 billion years tops. Well, complex multicellular life.

      In about 600 million years, photosynthesis of the common type will become impossible. In 1 billion, it all will be impossible. At that point, the Sun's luminosity will have increased by 10%.  Surface temperature on the earth will be well over 100F.

     By about 3 billion years, all single cell life will be completely impossible. And at that point, the Moon will have receded far enough away that its stabilizing of the earth's axial tilt ceases, and the tilt will go chaotic.

      The chaotic influences of the inner planets' orbit also makes the chances of something drastic during this billion year time period.

     So, in about 600 million to a billion years, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 31, 2016 07:32 PM (DW+jj)

182 159 Hey, cooth!


Doing well. Life goes on. That's a pretty good thing in itself.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at August 01, 2016 12:15 AM (rJUlF)



It is indeed.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 31, 2016 07:32 PM (EzgxV)

183 So, in about 600 million to a billion years, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!! Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 01, 2016 12:32 AM (DW+jj) That's just way too long to wait.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 31, 2016 07:33 PM (0mRoj)

184 Why... WHY... did I just watch Chris Wallass's interview with Cankles from today? Fox News Sunday was the only Sunday news show I used to watch. Now I don't bother. Brady Bunch reruns are more informative.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 31, 2016 07:33 PM (IqV8l)

185 Publius -- lighten up.

Posted by: eleven at July 31, 2016 07:34 PM (qUNWi)

186 Mmmmmm. Hoagies.

Posted by: Miss Venezuela Contestants Everywhere at July 31, 2016 07:34 PM (/wm8n)

187 Bedtime here. Be well all. T

Posted by: Farmer at July 31, 2016 07:35 PM (o/90i)

188 169

How long before Venezuelans start starving to death en masse?

You know what will happen when they do.

"The poor, unfortunate Venezuelans are starving because of America and global warming. We must send them trillions of dollars and import all their women and children. The words 'socialist' and 'drug dealer' are deemed to be bigoted."

Posted by: iforgot says God bless Fleegle at August 01, 2016 12:22 AM (5o5ek)



I wish it would be their women and children. Women and children in socialist societies die off at a rate greater than able-bodied men. Instead, there will be calls to import the more socialist (=healthy, because politically-connected) of their able-bodied military-aged males.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 31, 2016 07:36 PM (EzgxV)

189 I'll be ready when the sun goes all red giant.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 31, 2016 07:36 PM (/wm8n)

190 KS is having their primary election on Tuesday. They're trying to win me over by saying Tim Huelskamp opposed the farm bill. I have a particular dislike for farm subsidies so if I were voting I'd vote to keep him in office.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 31, 2016 07:37 PM (VxHD9)

191 Why can't the sun go green giant? I hear he's rather jolly.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 31, 2016 07:37 PM (0mRoj)

192 That reminds me of the old joke about the guy in the astronomy course. The prof explains the Sun will go red giant in about 5 billion years. A guy goes nuts, panicking. The prof said, hey 5 billion years is an umimaginably long time, lighten up.

      The guy says, "Oh, wheeewww, you said 5 billion. I thought you said 5 *million*."

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 31, 2016 07:38 PM (DW+jj)

193 >>>So, in about 600 million to a billion years, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!! Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 01, 2016 12:32 AM (DW+jj)<<< the dog barks, the caravan moves on ...

Posted by: rich@gmu at July 31, 2016 07:38 PM (Rd2Di)

194 Our entire Local Group of galaxies will eventually crush together, even though the universe at large will continue to expand forever.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 31, 2016 07:39 PM (/wm8n)

195 Why can't the sun go green giant? I hear he's rather jolly. Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at August 01, 2016 12:37 AM Yeah, when I hear "red giant" Joe Stalin comes to mind.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 31, 2016 07:40 PM (IqV8l)

196 195 Why can't the sun go green giant? I hear he's rather jolly. Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at August 01, 2016 12:37 AM (0mRoj) let's not go there ...

Posted by: Bruce Banner at July 31, 2016 07:40 PM (Rd2Di)

197 So, in about 600 million to a billion years, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!! I suspect the Social Security trust fund will go dry before then.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 31, 2016 07:40 PM (VxHD9)

198 "Tit porridge"... that there be pure poetry. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot --------------- A cruel gruel.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 31, 2016 07:41 PM (OLNwX)

199 198 Our entire Local Group of galaxies will eventually crush together, even though the universe at large will continue to expand forever. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 01, 2016 12:39 AM (/wm8n Did the topic get changed to Swingers up the thread?

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 07:41 PM (MlXgU)

200 Colombia is not bad.  Bogota appears to be full of fuzzy headed fools who have replaced a belief in global warming and european style social democrat governance for God, but as far as I can tell, the trolls hate Colombia because they are beating the Cuban and Venezuelan backed FARC and had a lot of good results in beating down the Narcotraffickers who were trying to force a defacto takeover. 

I don't know how successful they will weather a melt-down of Venezuela, though.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2016 07:41 PM (ry34m)

201 the dog barks, the caravan moves on ...

the tree barks ... uh ...

I gots nothin'.

Posted by: struggling poet at July 31, 2016 07:42 PM (vPc9h)

202 I suspect the Social Security trust fund will go dry before then. Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 01, 2016 12:40 AM Hillary will institute the lock box.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at July 31, 2016 07:42 PM (IqV8l)

203 Two chicks at the same time would have been a much better investment.

Posted by: Lawrence at July 31, 2016 07:43 PM (zUs0s)

204 Refugees are storming the Colombia border.
Posted by: gNewt.....don't like Ryan....better call Paul.....Nehlen, that is at August 01, 2016 12:25 AM (YYoIi)


And I'd like your citation please.  The Colombian papers only reference Cuban refugees looking for permission from Obama to go to the US, and the other papers I look at don't mention a thing.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2016 07:43 PM (ry34m)

205 That's just way too long to wait. Posted by: Insomniac -------------- Be careful what you wish for.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 31, 2016 07:44 PM (OLNwX)

206 ONT, sure, yeah, great... But I still want an ice cream cone. Howdy, folks.

Posted by: mindful webworker - make mine cherry at July 31, 2016 07:44 PM (5a8XA)

207 Suppose zombie William Walker pops out of the ground, and says, "Well boys, looks like it's time go a-filibusterin' in Venezuela." How many men, and how many ships and airplanes will he need in order to have a reasonable chance of success? Will the U.S president of the day turn a blind eye, give covert help, or try to block the whole thing?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 31, 2016 07:45 PM (f3Uae)

208 >>>Fox News Sunday was the only Sunday news show I used to watch. Now I don't bother. Brady Bunch reruns are more informative.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at August 01, 2016 12:33 AM (IqV8l)<<<



I really haven't watched it since Wallass took over (like lib father, like lib son), but after hearing that she seemingly did poorly today with him, figured I'd give it a shot.


It was horrible. I know she's lying. 'Rons/'Ettes here know she's lying. But if some curious LIV (yeah oxymoron) tuned in, they'd probably be none the wiser, seeing her acquitting herself very well with almost no challenge to her make believe. 

Posted by: a T-Rex trying to rub one out at July 31, 2016 07:45 PM (H9MG5)

209 so, sharknado is basically a sinkex for a movie. trying to determine how much shit you can throw at a movie before you destroy the whole thing. surprising syfy did not pull the plug in the middle of the airing and replace it with reruns of stargate universe.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 31, 2016 07:46 PM (AoSQU)

210 Be careful what you wish for. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 01, 2016 12:44 AM (OLNwX) I usually am.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at July 31, 2016 07:46 PM (0mRoj)

211 204 Colombia is not bad. Bogota appears to be full of fuzzy headed fools who have replaced a belief in global warming and european style social democrat governance for God, but as far as I can tell, the trolls hate Colombia because they are beating the Cuban and Venezuelan backed FARC and had a lot of good results in beating down the Narcotraffickers who were trying to force a defacto takeover. I don't know how successful they will weather a melt-down of Venezuela, though. Posted by: Kindltot at August 01, 2016 12:41 AM (ry34m I would be more motivated and get more accomplished if the USA would allow me to chew Coca leaves and drink Coca tea.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 07:46 PM (MlXgU)

212 I cannot imagine how desperate you would have to be to try to get into Colombia. Most people in the U.S. still have an image of Columbia from the 1980s. Parts of it are perfectly safe now and it's fine for a South American country.

Posted by: AD at July 31, 2016 07:47 PM (78/wG)

213 At some point before the Local Group mergers, all the other galaxies will be beyond the cosmological horizon.

    The true nature and size of the universe would be very hard to detect to some new civilization that developed somewhere in the Local Group.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 31, 2016 07:48 PM (DW+jj)

214 *Colombia

Posted by: AD at July 31, 2016 07:48 PM (78/wG)

215 >>>Why can't the sun go green giant? I hear he's rather jolly.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at August 01, 2016 12:37 AM (0mRoj)<<<



Wouldn't be so funny when he peas all over us.



(sorry, that Green Giant pun was corny)

Posted by: a T-Rex trying to rub one out at July 31, 2016 07:48 PM (H9MG5)

216 Do I dare ask her who he was to us? Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at July 31, 2016 11:33 PM (E1RZH) I would.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 31, 2016 07:49 PM (Idu2i)

217 208 Two chicks at the same time would have been a much better investment. Posted by: Lawrence at August 01, 2016 12:43 AM (zUs0s Lawrence, anybody at work ever say "looks like somebody has a case of the Monday's?'

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 07:51 PM (MlXgU)

218 Wouldn't be so funny when he peas all over us. (sorry, that Green Giant pun was corny) Posted by: a T-Rex trying to rub one out at August 01, 2016 12:48 AM (H9MG5) All right, you asked for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSlUq2dCOEA

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 31, 2016 07:51 PM (f3Uae)

219 Uncle Palp, Can you live without asking? Some people can....the what ifs are easily brushed aside an forgotten. Cherish the good an leave it at that. If you must ask.......then know you are who you are by what You've done with your life. We all come from somewhere, but it's what We do that defines us. No answer about the past will change that. Think on it, sleep on it, and think on it some more. If you're honest with yourself, the right choice will be clear. Best wishes Uncle P.

Posted by: Hillbillyking at July 31, 2016 07:51 PM (YGNZj)

220 (sorry, that Green Giant pun was corny) Posted by: a T-Rex trying to rub one out at August 01, 2016 12:48 AM (H9MG5) And that, is when we knew that the dinosaurs were Muldoomed. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim[/i][/b][/s][/u] at July 31, 2016 07:51 PM (v5iqM)

221 Wouldn't be so funny when he peas all over us. (sorry, that Green Giant pun was corny) Posted by: a T-Rex trying to rub one out at August 01, 2016 12:48 AM (H9MG5) ---------- You deserve a beeting for that one.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 31, 2016 07:52 PM (/wm8n)

222 No citation available, I had previously read they were crossing over to get food. Later, I read from a "reputable" news source that Venezuelans are fleeing for Columbia.
Posted by: gNewt......don't like Ryan.....better call Paul....Nehlen, that is...._ at August 01, 2016 12:48 AM (YYoIi)


Well, Instead of rubbing  your nose in a typo (yep, we have proof that the law school is sh*T . . .)

Neither El Espectador or El Tiempo nor the PanAm Post have any mention of it.

I would love to develop a more up to date resource should you find one. 

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2016 07:52 PM (ry34m)

223 Posted by: Kindltot at August 01, 2016 12:43 AM (ry34m) NBC news had a piece about some going to Colombia and I've seen articles in the British press mentioning same. "Storming" would be too strong a word, but with this decree, and the usual implementation-the government's political enemies will be just the labor needed-it will become a crisis for all the bordering countries. I wonder when Colombia, Brazil and others decide they've had enough and eliminate the regime.

Posted by: rich@gmu at July 31, 2016 07:52 PM (Rd2Di)

224 Well, I stand corrected about Colombia. My apologies to any Colombian morons and an offer of free breast inspections to any Colombian moronettes.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 31, 2016 07:52 PM (VxHD9)

225 220 No citation available, I had previously read they were crossing over to get food. Later, I read from a "reputable" news source that Venezuelans are fleeing for Columbia. Posted by: gNewt......don't like Ryan.....better call Paul....Nehlen, that is...._ at August 01, 2016 12:48 AM (YYoIi) The Washington Post had an article on it. I probably could just search for it, but don't care enough to look it up.

Posted by: AD at July 31, 2016 07:53 PM (78/wG)

226 223 Lawrence, anybody at work ever say "looks like somebody has a case of the Monday's?" Shit no, man. I believe that you'd get your ass kicked saying something like that.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 31, 2016 07:53 PM (BK3ZS)

227 You could say the Sun is really green. Some do this. The peak of the sun's visible light emission is in the green part of the spectrum.

  But, you have to add them all together. The Sun is really white. :-)

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 31, 2016 07:53 PM (DW+jj)

228 >>>But, you have to add them all together. The Sun is really white. :-)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 01, 2016 12:53 AM (DW+jj)<<<



#BlackLightMatters

Posted by: BLM at July 31, 2016 07:54 PM (H9MG5)

229 this is a bbc link from a few weeks back http://tinyurl.com/jqlhqy5 The Guardian put the number around 35000.

Posted by: rich@gmu at July 31, 2016 07:55 PM (Rd2Di)

230 If I and my family were starving and/or being forced into labor camps Colombia would be worth the trouble.
Posted by: gNewt......don't like Ryan.....better call Paul....Nehlen, that is...._ at August 01, 2016 12:52 AM (YYoIi)


Tell me when you can see the drowned victims of the hurricane floating by from your room at the Hilton, OK?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2016 07:55 PM (ry34m)

231 Yep, the sun is racist.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 31, 2016 07:55 PM (DW+jj)

232 But, you have to add them all together. The Sun is really white. :-) Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 01, 2016 12:53 AM (DW+ ---------- Much like your privilege, cracker.

Posted by: Black Lives Matter at July 31, 2016 07:56 PM (/wm8n)

233 Office Space stole one of my best lines, sorta. Whenever I was told, near the end of my gainfully employed time, "You missed the XXX meeting yesterday", I would respond, "No, I just wasn't there."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at July 31, 2016 07:56 PM (BK3ZS)

234 But, you have to add them all together. The Sun is really white. :-) Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 01, 2016 12:53 AM (DW+jj) They told me it was yellow!

Posted by: Superman at July 31, 2016 07:56 PM (f3Uae)

235 234 You could say the Sun is really green. Some do this. The peak of the sun's visible light emission is in the green part of the spectrum. But, you have to add them all together. The Sun is really white. :-) Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 01, 2016 12:53 AM (DW+ Hog wash racist. JC was Mediterranean with brown eyes.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 07:57 PM (MlXgU)

236 In about 600 million years, photosynthesis of the common type will become impossible. In 1 billion, it all will be impossible. At that point, the Sun's luminosity will have increased by 10%. Surface temperature on the earth will be well over 100F. So what you are saying is that Solar power may not be the renewable energy source all the greenies are claiming it to be.

Posted by: tbodie at July 31, 2016 07:58 PM (XVF2z)

237 Thanks, fellas, for puttin' me some knowledge up-thread on Venezuela's self-inflicted economic demise. I am liking the physics/astronomy/doom direction this ONT is taking. May stay up a little longer to peruse.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 31, 2016 07:59 PM (20/tn)

238 187 If Gary Johnson makes it to the debates he will pull votes from Hillary. Posted by: gNewt......don't like Ryan.....better call Paul......Nehlen, that is at August 01, 2016 12:33 AM (YYoIi) If Gary Johnson makes it to the debates the moderator and Johnson will work very hard to have him come out looking like a libertarian conservative rather than 70% Bernie Sanders he admits to be. Remember, his runningmate is a "republican" that worked with Hillary during Watergate and still likes her.

Posted by: buzzion at July 31, 2016 07:59 PM (bMG0w)

239 Incirlik has been sealed off for two or three days, no power and the US is flying in every thing necessary to maintain. I'm sure our men can handle it the problem is their boss.

Posted by: gNewt......don't like Ryan.....better call Paul....Nehlen, that is...._ at August 01, 2016 12:42 AM (YYoIi)


The official web page for Incirlik says eveything is business as usual.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 31, 2016 08:00 PM (P/kVC)

240 If Gary Johnson makes it to the debates the moderator and Johnson will work very hard to have him come out looking like a libertarian conservative rather than 70% Bernie Sanders he admits to be. Remember, his runningmate is a "republican" that worked with Hillary during Watergate and still likes her. Posted by: buzzion at August 01, 2016 12:59 AM (bMG0w) Trump should have picked RAND Paul because of the third parties. I'll always stand by that.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 08:05 PM (MlXgU)

241 Trump should have picked RAND Paul because of the third parties. I'll always stand by that.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 01, 2016 01:05 AM (MlXgU)


Rand was my pick. Other than depth and breadth of experience, I don't know why he didn't.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 31, 2016 08:07 PM (P/kVC)

242 Superman, I hate to tell you this, but in Japan, they say the Sun is red.....

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 31, 2016 08:07 PM (DW+jj)

243 247 Incirlik has been sealed off for two or three days,
no power and the US is flying in every thing necessary to maintain. I'm
sure our men can handle it the problem is their boss.

Posted by: gNewt......don't like Ryan.....better call Paul....Nehlen, that is...._ at August 01, 2016 12:42 AM (YYoIi)

The official web page for Incirlik says eveything is business as usual.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 01, 2016 01:00 AM (P/kVC)



All US personnel leave Incirlik on transports....nuclear "accident" detonates one bomb, leaves others too dangerous to handle for next 7,000 years....meetings in Brussels to evict Turkey from NATO.



Erdogan: "How can this be happening? He loved having my dick in his mouth. He called me every day."

Posted by: cthulhu at July 31, 2016 08:09 PM (EzgxV)

244 There's some damn extinction probability thing that puts the probability of human extinction at 95% within 7 million years or something. I think the inputs to that are controversial.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 31, 2016 08:10 PM (DW+jj)

245 Oh, in a billion years, the probability of an extinction level gamma ray burst hit  is pretty high, as well as an extinction level SMOD or two.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 31, 2016 08:11 PM (DW+jj)

246 Superman, I hate to tell you this, but in Japan, they say the Sun is red..... Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 01, 2016 01:07 AM (DW+jj) Well, I have been feeling a little peaked, lately.

Posted by: Superman at July 31, 2016 08:12 PM (f3Uae)

247 253 There's some damn extinction probability thing that puts the probability of human extinction at 95% within 7 million years or something. I think the inputs to that are controversial. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at August 01, 2016 01:10 AM (DW+ And men and women alike will all be rubbing several out at day as usual.

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 08:13 PM (MlXgU)

248 Quote from Bloomberg article linked at Drudge: "Over the next month, look for more Republicans, prominent former national security officials, business leaders and officeholders, to endorse Clinton." I'm intrigued by this and what any calculating politician (BIRM) would expect to gain at this phase of the election. If anything, they'd throw their support to Johnson.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 31, 2016 08:16 PM (VxHD9)

249 Posit: ValJar is Obama's Political Officer; Huma is Clinton's. Solve for: what is the organization? Who else is compromised? Hint: Davos.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 31, 2016 08:16 PM (EzgxV)

250 Night Boners

Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at July 31, 2016 08:17 PM (MlXgU)

251 Yo, Maet! Ready to concede Win10 is the evilest of the evil?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 31, 2016 08:21 PM (EzgxV)

252 257 Quote from Bloomberg article linked at Drudge: "Over the next month, look for more Republicans, prominent former national security officials, business leaders and officeholders, to endorse Clinton." I'm intrigued by this and what any calculating politician (BIRM) would expect to gain at this phase of the election. If anything, they'd throw their support to Johnson. Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 01, 2016 01:16 AM (VxHD9) Throwing support to Johnson doesn't keep them on the uniparty benefits list though.

Posted by: buzzion at July 31, 2016 08:22 PM (bMG0w)

253 Posted by: gNewt......don't like Ryan.....better call Paul....Nehlen, that is...._ at August 01, 2016 12:59 AM (YYoIi)

Dude.  Two articles about Colombians fleeing Venezuela for Colombia, and an an article that is built around the declaration by the UN High Commission on Refugees that (well, Caracol Radio in Colombia says 132,000, not 100,000 as reported in Yahoo per AFP) Venezuelans came to Colombia to shop for basic goods, and that if lots of them stayed it might affect the FARC negotiations and cause other problems.

If you have better sources, let me know.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2016 08:22 PM (ry34m)

254 Reports Turkish troops have sealed off Incirlik Does this mean that Ann-Margaret's not coming?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 31, 2016 08:23 PM (VxHD9)

255 If Gary Johnson makes it to the debates the moderator and Johnson will work very hard to have him come out looking like a libertarian conservative rather than 70% Bernie Sanders he admits to be. Remember, his runningmate is a "republican" that worked with Hillary during Watergate and still likes her.

IMO, the "libertarian" big wigs - at least the "viable" ones and not the ones who think diapers are appropriate convention attire - seem to be liberal Republicans who like to get stoned, so pretty much the worst of all worlds. Reason interviewed Johnson and Weld, and when they asked about SCOTUS Justices, they cited Bryers as just the peachiest keenest Justice EVAH and also said that it was a shame Merrick Garland hadn't gotten a nom because he was their ideal candidate.

It's a damn shame because there's a lot in libertarianism to recommend it (and a lot of Utopian nonsense). If I had to define my political philosophy, "conservatarian" comes pretty darn close.

Posted by: Weirddave at July 31, 2016 08:25 PM (N8hFs)

256 I think the inputs to that are controversial.

Sounds sciencetific to me!

Posted by: the Drake "equation" at July 31, 2016 08:25 PM (vPc9h)

257 "Breyer" not "Bryers". Sorry.

Posted by: Weirddave at July 31, 2016 08:27 PM (N8hFs)

258 >>>258 Posit: ValJar is Obama's Political Officer; Huma is Clinton's. Solve for: what is the organization? Who else is compromised? Hint: Davos. Posted by: cthulhu at August 01, 2016 01:16 AM (EzgxV)<<<< hummmm?

Posted by: rich@gmu at July 31, 2016 08:28 PM (Rd2Di)

259 268 "Breyer" not "Bryers". Sorry. Posted by: Weirddave at August 01, 2016 01:27 AM (N8hFs They do make decent ice cream.

Posted by: buzzion at July 31, 2016 08:29 PM (bMG0w)

260 Next time y'all want a citation it's Bing dot com or what ever search engine you prefer. Posted by: gNewt......don't like Ryan.....better call Paul....Nehlen, that is...._ at August 01, 2016 01:18 AM (YYoIi) But PornHub doesn't bring up anything regarding that...

Posted by: The Searchin' Hat at July 31, 2016 08:30 PM (vBeA5)

261 lol ... come for the ONT content, stay for the Hat.

Posted by: rich@gmu at July 31, 2016 08:32 PM (Rd2Di)

262 cooth- do you have a suggested answer to your question?

Posted by: rich@gmu at July 31, 2016 08:34 PM (Rd2Di)

263 153 the Facebook link, It was on my Facebook account but I wouldn't be surprised if some free-thinking lurker also saw that series and had something to say about it. This is precisely the situation. There seemed to be some "personal" contact between the source at the link and the writer I don't recall the hunting issue, but I don't doubt it. It was very brief and sort of oblique, about how the locals could and would go into the jungle for food ... and not simply gather what could be found. I was amused.

Posted by: Arbalest at July 31, 2016 08:34 PM (FlRtG)

264 To follow up, the tragedy that socialism has wrought on Venezuela, and the cost in human suffering, loss of life, tarnishing of souls and corruption of society (not to mention the danger it puts the world into because of the global instability caused by desperate men who fear they will be hanged from lampposts) that has resulted from a naked political power grab based on the idea that fairness is possible in a macro sort of way

IN NO WAY JUSTIFIES

exaggerating things.

Exaggerating things in the end mocks the suffering and discredits the reports of misery and pain and the danger to the world.  In the end, it justifies the original lies.

So, I am highly, and probably unreasonably, picky about these things.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 31, 2016 08:38 PM (ry34m)

265 273 cooth-

do you have a suggested answer to your question?

Posted by: rich@gmu at August 01, 2016 01:34 AM (Rd2Di)



I don't know if it has a publicly-disclosed name. Seems like a lot of inputs into one box, however.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 31, 2016 08:38 PM (EzgxV)

266 249 Trump should have picked RAND Paul because of the third parties. I'll always stand by that. Posted by: Cactus of Liberty at August 01, 2016 01:05 AM (MlXgU) Rand was my pick. Other than depth and breadth of experience, I don't know why he didn't. Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 01, 2016 01:07 AM (P/kVC) Indiana borders on Ohio and Michigan. Kentucky borders on Ohio only. I know people say that sort of stuff doesn't matter, but it does to the politicians and they believe it.

Posted by: Harry at July 31, 2016 08:39 PM (1JnAL)

267 278 off you nasty old sock

Posted by: Ashley Judds Puffy Scamper at July 31, 2016 08:40 PM (1JnAL)

268 Hydra? Transnational Progressives ... like the formulation though.

Posted by: rich@gmu at July 31, 2016 08:41 PM (Rd2Di)

269 **Peeks in** Is it safe?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 31, 2016 08:42 PM (mvenn)

270 Night all. Here is "Mistress of the Salmon Salt (Quickline Girl) by Blue Öyster Cult: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePskTD61oH0

Posted by: The Political Hat at July 31, 2016 08:42 PM (vBeA5)

271 ..."Seems like a lot of inputs into one box, however." -Posted by: cthulhu at August 01, 2016 01:38 AM (EzgxV) You say that like it is a bad thing.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at July 31, 2016 08:44 PM (6gk0M)

272 Posted by: Kindltot at August 01, 2016 01:38 AM (ry34m) they are at the return to barter stage of their economic collapse. the forced labor scheme is to empty out the cities so only those most loyal to the regime are close. we should be careful in how we describe the situation but it is going to get much worse.

Posted by: rich@gmu at July 31, 2016 08:44 PM (Rd2Di)

273 Is it safe? Posted by: Seamus Muldoon Ask Frodo ?

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 31, 2016 08:47 PM (AoK0a)

274 Vacation is fun, but it's good to get back home again.


But not to go back to work. That sucks.


Howdy roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE Hades of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 31, 2016 08:50 PM (vbvxt)

275 So today turned out to be VW day at Peon Manor. Mainly because I had to move two of them to mow the damned grass under 'em. The '73 Super Beetle was out of fuel, so I poured a little gas in it, and it started right up, so I drove it up to the shop. The '71 Super Beetle was also dry, and I know I put fuel in it a couple of weeks ago. Anyway, I filled it up, and it started, but the engine was very noisy, and I got it moved a few yards, and it quit again. Pulled the dipstick, because, worried. Crankcase full of gasoline. Got my oil drain pan, drained out the much-diluted oil, and added 2 quarts of fresh oil. Removed the old fuel pump, which surely has a failed diaphragm. Curse you, Archer Daniels Midland, and your alcohol-polluted fuel! Found an old VW fuel pump in the parts bin which appeared sound, but had to take the filter housing off it to mount on the engine because of clearance issues with the alternator. It started right up, and ran fine, but when I parked it and checked the engine, fuel was running down the outside of the fuel pump. I disconnected the line from the tank and capped it. I guess I will have to order some alcohol-proof fuel pumps from one of the VW parts sources. Anyway, I got the '73 up on ramps, and spent the rest of the day welding up rust in the floor pan and passenger side door sill. Got that side all finished, and a coat of paint on the floor to boot. This is one VW that the body will never come off the floor pan, because they are now welded together. Not the most kosher way to do it, but a '73 Super Beetle is worth next to nothing as a collector car. And I can make a fairly decent driver out of it without spending much money. It does run and drive just fine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 31, 2016 08:51 PM (f3Uae)

276 New Event, The 50-Meter Trots- an IOC-approved limerick The Olympics have an issue with bacteria To the point of causing simple mass hysteria But if you think the water's bad Here's a thought to make you sad Just imagine what infests the cafeteria!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 31, 2016 08:52 PM (mvenn)

277 Hoody, GGE !

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 31, 2016 08:52 PM (AoK0a)

278 iforgot says God bless Fleegle: If you're still around, is this the same article (or one of the same series): http://tinyurl.com/h59o4fj "Adios Gringolandia" Jan 19, 2014 By One Pissed Off Liberal

Posted by: Arbalest at July 31, 2016 08:56 PM (FlRtG)

279 The rowing coach didn't mince words "The Rio games, they are for the birds, We got the bronze, The silver's Taiwan's And the gold medal was won by three turds."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 31, 2016 09:01 PM (f3Uae)

280 AOP - Just as a matter of curiosity, how many running, or potentially running vehicles in the AOP stable?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 31, 2016 09:05 PM (9mTYi)

281 GGE - Did you ever get the Subie sorted out? Last I heard there was, what, head gasket problem?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 31, 2016 09:06 PM (9mTYi)

282 @AOP- nice! ***** In regard to the Olympics, here's my thoughts Can the athletes of the world connect the dots? If they all get dysentery IOC must face the query: What to do when all the sprinters have the trots

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 31, 2016 09:07 PM (mvenn)

283 Oy. Night, all. Better tomorrows.

Posted by: Adriane the Movie Critic ... at July 31, 2016 09:08 PM (AoK0a)

284 The IOC doesn't know what to do.
The Rio games are infested with poo.
You might swim and get sick,
Or a candiru in your dick,
And watch it turn into a puddle of goo.

Posted by: a T-Rex trying to rub one out at July 31, 2016 09:15 PM (H9MG5)

285 GGE - Did you ever get the Subie sorted out? Last I heard there was, what, head gasket problem?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 01, 2016 02:06 AM (9mTYi)



Yep, head gaskets. Common Subi problem. All fixed now and I've been driving it to work. I will be cutting the wood for a new cover for it next week probably, the Ozzbros cover I bought for it rotted out many years ago and I've been running with the bed uncovered but it is really handy to have a locking cover for it.

Posted by: GGE Hades of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at July 31, 2016 09:22 PM (vbvxt)

286 266 >> It's a damn shame because there's a lot in libertarianism to recommend it...
 
Posted by: weirddave
 
Yeah, the big L party is pretty much a clusterfuck. I've voted for it in the past (but only when I was sure how my state would turn out, D vs. R wise), under the principle that we need more than two Party voices.
 
But this particular clown boner freak show incarnation doesn't even tempt me. ANYTHING can happen this cycle, and the Canklesore can not be allowed power.

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at July 31, 2016 09:27 PM (gyKtp)

287 Annnnnd... out.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 31, 2016 09:32 PM (mxCgt)

288 AOP - Just as a matter of curiosity, how many running, or potentially running vehicles in the AOP stable? Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 01, 2016 02:05 AM (9mTYi) That's a good question. I count 33 more or less complete vehicles, with engines in them that can be started if I provide fuel and a battery. About 8 of them are roadworthy, or close enough to reckoned so. 5 actually plated and insured. About 11 engineless project cars, or vehicles that no way could be started. And a few hulks, that will serve only to be parted out. The line between "project car" and "hulk" may shift from time to time, heh.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 31, 2016 09:33 PM (f3Uae)

289 If I had to define my political philosophy, "conservatarian" comes pretty darn close.

Posted by: Weirddave at August 01, 2016 01:25 AM (N8hFs)




I've taken to using Minarchist.  Or, basically, I want the absolute minimum in government that can still provide for civil order and common defense, and nothing more.  Fuck all of the rest of it.  The Tao had it right, the greatest Emperor is the one you can forget even exists.  I want to be able to forget about them, instead of seeing them every day on TV and having them as a constant presence in my life.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 31, 2016 09:39 PM (HalrA)

290 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 01, 2016 02:33 AM (f3Uae)
 
33, huh. I must note that several influential yuppie glossy mags have written articles decrying the despicable state of Southern US yards, wherein might be found 3 or 4 junk vehicles on blocks, thereby scarring America The Beautimous.
 
As a true born southern Rebel, my yard has been graced from time to time with ONE rusting hulk...
 
I'm sending Vanity Fair to Alberta.

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at July 31, 2016 09:44 PM (gyKtp)

291 There once was a son of a gun Named Muldoon. Of a kind, he was one. Now in lim'rick he muses, But me it just confuses. I thought his best art was the pun. * From my perusal of the thread this evening, I gather that the solution to Rio disease, Venezuelan disorder, Turkish upheaval, Euro immigrant invasions, ISIS, and US 2016 Election convulsions is... in about 600 million to a billion years, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!! One simple solution to all the problems.

Posted by: mindful webworker - I scream for I scream for at July 31, 2016 09:44 PM (pREVk)

292 As a true born southern Rebel, my yard has been graced from time to time with ONE rusting hulk... I'm sending Vanity Fair to Alberta. Posted by: GnuBreed at August 01, 2016 02:44 AM (gyKtp) That's 33 that run, for some values of "run", including some motorcycles, which live indoors. And the non-runners and parts cars, it's pushing 50. My neighbor comes close, 20 or more. It's a farmer thing. But I know some collectors with literally hundreds of cars. Some here in Alberta, but also all across the USA.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 31, 2016 09:49 PM (f3Uae)

293 Hey mindful ww. How have you been? My mind has been drawn to the limerick form lately. There are only so many ways to type "Hillary sucks". Not looking to move the needle at all, just a wry observer of the scene. I'm sure I irritate folks at times, but I amuse myself, so there's that.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 31, 2016 09:49 PM (mvenn)

294 When the Olympic libido
Meets the Zika mosquito
In a world without DDT
Where health officials say "Let it be"
We'll have more shrunken heads than Togo.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at July 31, 2016 09:51 PM (HalrA)

295 .. in about 600 million to a billion years, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!! In the land of Mordor, where the shadows lie!

Posted by: Sauron at July 31, 2016 09:51 PM (CCM9V)

296 If a limerick be your weapon of choice,
Then allow me to raise my voice.
I'll cheer for your time,
To put words into rhyme,
And forgoing the puns, we'll rejoice.

Posted by: a T-Rex trying to rub one out at July 31, 2016 09:52 PM (H9MG5)

297 Oh no, it's Seamus.
 
Mulls Doom.

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at July 31, 2016 09:56 PM (gyKtp)

298 All right. Medicine's kicking in. Later all. Thanks for putting up with me. Endeavor to persevere.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at July 31, 2016 09:57 PM (mvenn)

299 Seamus: ...I'm sure I irritate folks at times, but I amuse myself, so there's that. Keep on keepin' on, Muldoon. I think I know whatcha mean. I might be the only one to laugh at my own jokes but at least I have an appreciative audience.

Posted by: mindful webworker - hardy har har *gurk* at July 31, 2016 10:01 PM (pREVk)

300 Did I miss Seamus by thatmuch?

Posted by: mindful webworker - er? at July 31, 2016 10:02 PM (pREVk)

301 Time for me to call it a night, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 31, 2016 10:02 PM (f3Uae)

302 It's 3am on Ace's clock. It's 2am here in Central Daylight time, which means it's just 1am real time. Late for me, but not as late as the timestamp makes it seem. Still, the slow hour of the night, it seems. * Don't anybody mention I said this, but... Despite the utter train wreck which is my life, there are wonderful, albeit simple, luxuries. One I've just enjoyed is, an outdoor shower where I can hose off the sweat of a muggy Oklahoma day, while gazing at stars and lightning bugs and hearing the train rumble by about a half-mile away while cats meander around me. Wouldn't trade that for all the gold-plated bathroom fixtures on the Trump plane.

Posted by: mindful webworker - wet is good at July 31, 2016 10:05 PM (pREVk)

303 There once was a cankled clown Who thought she was owed her party's crown She doubled down on stupid Was perceived as putrid And now she's 55-45 down.

Posted by: Sauron at July 31, 2016 10:05 PM (CCM9V)

304 Outdoor showers are the bomb. I think of them as beach community things, but why shouldn't you have them in Oklahoma.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 31, 2016 10:13 PM (mgbwf)

305 James: My dear brothers and sisters, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, because human anger does not produce the righteousness that God desires. Good night, Gracies

Posted by: mindful webworker - aloha, y'all at July 31, 2016 10:14 PM (pREVk)

306 There once was a tired night, Sunday. That turned into early one, Monday. The sleep wasn't there, so he pulled out his hair. And he prayed for a restful night one day.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 31, 2016 10:26 PM (6gk0M)

307 I've got enough iambic pentameter to fill a small pool.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 31, 2016 10:33 PM (6gk0M)

308 %*)+=#! Pokemon Go players!  Two o'clock in the morning and there's a steady stream of cars, motorcycles and walkers past the house.  So much for sleeping.

Posted by: creeper at July 31, 2016 10:33 PM (Nhjs9)

309 Good morning!  Though I fail to see much good in it.

Posted by: creeper at July 31, 2016 10:34 PM (Nhjs9)

310 Slapweasel, thanks for the poem.  Pretty much covers it tonight.

Posted by: creeper at July 31, 2016 10:35 PM (Nhjs9)

311 *sigh* Can't sleep. Took the family to the beach this weekend, had a great time. We came back, went for a twilight sail, and as I was coming back to the slip, whoops! no reverse. It's really, really hard to back a sailboat up without being able to use the engine. So I merrily sailed on down the marina until friction stopped me, then I moored my boat in an empty slip with the help of some other boaters (they threw me a line and pulled me in). I came home and crashed by 10:30, but I woke up at midnight and I haven't been able to get back to sleep. My body is bad like that, if I get a little bit of sleep when I go to bed but wake all the way up, it doesn't want to sleep again for hours, even though I'm tired and writing this post through yawns. It doesn't help that my brain is brooding about the boat.

I'm not too worried about the malfunction, I'm 95% sure it's a simple linkage problem and should be a relatively simple fix.

My boat isn't in my slip. It's in an unused one, but I have to call the marina 1st thing in the morning.

Did I moor it properly? One front line was there already, what if it belongs to the neighboring slip (which was empty but is used?) The other I lassoed the dock piling, suppose the loop slips?

One rear line was on a piling, but old-it's covered with barnacles. Suppose it breaks? The other side got one of my spare lines, but I wasn't able to cross them properly. Yea they're all tight, and there's no storms expected, but...


Worry, worry, worry. The ole' thinker just won't shut down, and there's nothing I can do about it ATM.

Shit. I wish I could sleep.

Posted by: Weirddave at July 31, 2016 10:41 PM (N8hFs)

312 There once was a broad from Chicago. Who was an ironic Iago. A statist at heart, she'll tear us apart. I'd rather be at Mar-a-Lago

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 31, 2016 10:41 PM (6gk0M)

313 Thanks, creeper. I'm a bleary-eyed mess right now.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 31, 2016 10:42 PM (6gk0M)

314 ..."Shit. I wish I could sleep." -Posted by: Weirddave at August 01, 2016 03:41 AM (N8hFs) Welcome aboard, Captain. Sleep is stupid, anyway... *kicks The Sandman in the nuts*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 31, 2016 10:45 PM (6gk0M)

315 Evidently we're all insomniacs.

Where's Tim?

Weirddave, stop worrying.  It's insured, isn't it?  That's what Allstate is for.

Posted by: creeper at July 31, 2016 10:47 PM (Nhjs9)

316 I woke-up early, worked at Dad's for six hours, walked 1.3 Miles, (just in case), and I have slept for all of one-half hour. I'm just happy that there are Frasier reruns on right now.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 31, 2016 10:48 PM (6gk0M)

317 Yea, it's insured, that's not the issue. I just hate thinking I might not have done something correctly-like the line possibly belonging to the neighbor boat, for example. I didn't even think of that until just now, I was just glad to see a line so I grabbed it and used it.

Posted by: Weirddave at July 31, 2016 10:52 PM (N8hFs)

318 So I even read Maet's post.  Love the story of the extended breastfeeder.  I got sucked into the LaLeche League's catechism when my son was born.  They talked about "baby-led" weaning.  The theory was that the baby would wean himself, somewhere around the age of two.

That turned out to be a fairy tale.  The baby is now thirty-two and would still be nursing if I'd allowed it.  On his fourth birthday I hooked him up and said, "Enjoy it, son, 'cause this is the last call."

Posted by: creeper at July 31, 2016 10:54 PM (Nhjs9)

319 Other boaters understand, dave. 

Yeah, your rope could break, it could suddenly spring a leak, someone could even steal it.  You'll find out in the morning if any of that happened.  In the meantime, get some sleep. 

Posted by: creeper at July 31, 2016 10:56 PM (Nhjs9)

320 If someone chooses my 35 year old 27' Hunter to steal out of a marina full of newer boats then they definitely need it more than I do and I wish them luck. Hope they don't have to go backwards.

I'm going to bed. Hope it takes.

Posted by: Weirddave at July 31, 2016 11:02 PM (N8hFs)

321 G'Night, Weirddave! *hopes it "takes!"*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 31, 2016 11:03 PM (6gk0M)

322 'Night, dave.  Sweet dreams of endless oceans.

Posted by: creeper at July 31, 2016 11:05 PM (Nhjs9)

323 I'm just going to have to stay up because I am out in two and one-half hours. As always, it'll be okay. Frustrating, but at least I have something to do until I leave.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 31, 2016 11:07 PM (6gk0M)

324 So the police say there's nothing they can do about the Pokemon Go players.  "It's a public street."  And I know the kids are just having fun.  BUT IT'S TWO O'CLOCK IN THE FREAKING MORNING and I've had a motorcycle going by the house for the past hour.

Getting crotchety in my dotage.

Posted by: creeper at July 31, 2016 11:10 PM (Nhjs9)

325 It is true that when we call what we are going through, "Socialism", it isn't true. Although the permeation of the "Progressive" leads to just that. "Poor, poor" Bernie Sanders. Youthful idiots really wanted real Socialism to work but they never understood that it is already continuing, apace. And Hillary's nomination is only the beginning. Brazilian Olympics... well, move there, Progs. Minimum Wage... when will Progs figure out that as fast as they run water from the deep end of the pool to the shallow end, they'll never make the shallow end "deeper", as they promise?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 31, 2016 11:19 PM (6gk0M)

326 ..."Getting crotchety in my dotage." -Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 04:10 AM (Nhjs9) *HAH!* At least I only have to bitch about tree frogs that sing loudly after dusk! It went from one of them five years ago to four of them, currently. breeeeet! --broooooot! -- breeeeet! -- breeeeeeeeee!-- broooooooot! -- etc., etc., etc... It wouldn't bother me as background noise it they weren't all within fifty yards of my window.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 31, 2016 11:26 PM (6gk0M)

327 ...as consolation, my neighbors have it worse. As it is their their trees that they occupy.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 31, 2016 11:28 PM (6gk0M)

328 Tree frogs beat the hell outta motorcycles.

I walked up to the library, where the Pokemon Go players were congregated, to make nice after bitching at them and calling the cops.  On the way back I got chewed out by a heron...brrraaaack!...and heard the coyotes across the river in Illinois. 

Posted by: creeper at July 31, 2016 11:40 PM (Nhjs9)

329 Equality is that socialist/communist goal, everyone makes the same, rides mass transportation, lives in same quality buildings. It's in everything they drag down the pike to pass along to civilization. Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2016 11:40 PM (bksJQ)

330 Equality = mediocrity

Posted by: creeper at July 31, 2016 11:42 PM (Nhjs9)

331 Oh, good morning, Skip.  We're a little more random than usual this morning.

Posted by: creeper at July 31, 2016 11:42 PM (Nhjs9)

332 Oh, wow!  It turns out CAIR is a Muslim Brotherhood front.  Who would have suspected that?!

http://tinyurl.com/mns2ntr

Posted by: creeper at July 31, 2016 11:44 PM (Nhjs9)

333 I can't even drink coffee, as it has brought-on panic attacks recently. I only have one large deck to pressure-wash and stain today, but it is an hour away. I don't feel like stopping and pretending that something is wrong with the car on some unknown off-ramp; while I endure a coffee-induced panic attack. I am caught between showing-up tired and getting a risky boost of energy. My eyes have bags that could carry a cart full of canned goods. The good news is that I have done it previously and I can perform under such duress. I was able to fend-off hecklers during bar employers' speaking engagements, (classing that job up); and I can gainfully and enthusiastically entertain questions, should the home-owner decide to be a hover-drone. This is America and I still love it.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 31, 2016 11:46 PM (6gk0M)

334 "Oh, wow! It turns out CAIR is a Muslim Brotherhood front. Who would have suspected that?!" http://tinyurl.com/mns2ntr -Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 04:44 AM (Nhjs9) I don't mind those who disparage Glenn Beck, (of course I do for the falsehoods), but they know he is an odd bird. He spoke of this three years ago and he was proven correct.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 31, 2016 11:50 PM (6gk0M)

335 G'Mornin', Skip!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 31, 2016 11:51 PM (6gk0M)

336 Slap, I hear you on the panic attacks.  All of a sudden the old engine starts humming and suddenly you're barreling down the panic track at 90 mph. 

Have a V8.  Get something besides caffeine into your system.

Posted by: creeper at July 31, 2016 11:53 PM (Nhjs9)

337 "The Projects" is a term that means "Slumlord Residency" from coast-to-coast, nowadays. They've razed the cockroach-infested, moldy, gunshot-riddled, garbage-filled crack-dens for tax-paying properties. That should tell you something.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at July 31, 2016 11:56 PM (6gk0M)

338 I'm not sure I'm needed at the job I was at Friday, but rule is don't get a call go back to where you were. That job is 42 miles away, I have work at close job but guess I'll got on the long road trip. There's the donut shop I love on the way.

Posted by: Skip at July 31, 2016 11:59 PM (bksJQ)

339 Road trip!  I'll buy the coffee, Skip.  Nice day for a drive.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 12:03 AM (Nhjs9)

340 ..."Have a V8. Get something besides caffeine into your system." -Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 04:53 AM (Nhjs9) I drink water and I am down to about three twelve-ounce cans of Pepsi a week. I hated quitting coffee. I still do. I enjoy the cake donuts that come along with it. The "pull-apart" fruit pastries... etc. This will be the first Christmas without coffee and I'll miss the cookies. The good news is that I no longer have to guzzle a beer at nine A.M. when I cannot pull myself out of a spiral. (When I don't have to work, that is.) I would never show-up at someone's home with a beer on my breath! I could only show-up a little late, (twenty minutes to one-half hour), and lie about being on the phone or traffic. I'd much rather be on-time and quit coffee.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 01, 2016 12:05 AM (6gk0M)

341 Slap, can't you drink an occasional cup of coffee without going off the deep end?

I had to cut way back on coffee.  Was drinking an entire pot of perked coffee a day and my cholesterol was inching up there.  My son had one of those little four-cup drip pots like you see in hotels.  I adopted that and it has worked well.  Or as well as four cups could on an eight-cup person.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 12:10 AM (Nhjs9)

342 Good morning morons. Obama ate a dog.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 01, 2016 12:14 AM (TRlQT)

343 I used to drink three pots, (large, 12-cup), a day when I was in my twenties and I first owned my own business. I didn't start getting panic attacks until my late twenties and I associated it with smoking weed. I quit smoking weed and I didn't have another panic attack until I was in my late thirties. It was weird and I associated it with the lack of sleep and the long drive. They were merely sporadic after that. Now that I am in my mid-forties, I have been having them only after either drinking heavily, (a twelve-pack in under a twenty-four hour period), or with coffee. My nervous system can no longer take either of those things and especially in tandem. I can no longer drink a full cup, (ten ounces) of coffee without wigging out. My nose gets tingly and I feel like I am falling. Then my fingers get numb and I can make no sense of what is going-on around me. I've been checked for nervous-system disorders and other maladies, but it seems that lack of sleep is the main culprit. Lack of exercise isn't exactly "it", but perhaps I need a more tiring regimen because what I'm doing isn't working.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 01, 2016 12:25 AM (6gk0M)

344 "Good morning morons. Obama ate a dog." -Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 01, 2016 05:14 AM (TRlQT) G'Morning, boulder ...lol. Truth is stranger than fiction.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 01, 2016 12:26 AM (6gk0M)

345 341 ... Ain't that the truth. An imposed equality (that won't limit those who do the imposing) vs. individual opportunity. Gee, which would I choose? As to cities with assigned quarters, mass transit, etc., they are at best ant farms or fish tanks. Something to look at but everything is controlled by others and they cannot sustain themselves. Or they can be like Chicago or Detroit: an abattoir. Before anyone can run for political office, they should have to feed themselves and their families and make a living from farming for several years. And I mean they have to do the work, not just hire others. I can't thnk of another occupation that so stresses the importance of reality and the consequences of your decisions. If they survive that (and it is a big if) then they can try for a political position. OK. Rant off.

Posted by: JTB at August 01, 2016 12:27 AM (V+03K)

346 I was able to fend-off hecklers during bar employers' speaking engagements, (classing that job up); and I can gainfully and enthusiastically entertain questions, should the home-owner decide to be a hover-drone.

Good Morning,
Yes, My name is Bruce and I am a hover-drone!

Great term for it. I guess I do it because I'm interested in how professionals do things, and I can get tips on how to do them myself, if I can. I have gotten some good ideas from the people that come to fix things here, including preventive maintenance. One of the guys did joke about the old saying, "100 to do the job, 200 if you watch, 300 if you help"

I laughed and laughed...then the bastard charged us 200.


Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 12:27 AM (8ikIW)

347 Slap, could low blood sugar be a factor in your panic attacks? 

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 12:29 AM (Nhjs9)

348 That minimum wage hike (and the call for a $15/hr hike elsewhere) was never about getting the workers a raise.  It was about getting the gov employee unions an automatic increase without even have to go through the sham of a negotiation).


As for that "astronaut study", I showed yesterday why it did not even rise to the level of "junk science".  It is BS.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 12:30 AM (mpXpK)

349 *HAH!* @ Bruce! I never minded "Hover-Drones". ...much. If they didn't take the stuff off of the deck I was going to wash, I got pissy, but other than that? You wanna D.I.Y.? I'll give you everything except the chemicals I use. -Ancient Chinese Secret.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 01, 2016 12:31 AM (6gk0M)

350 "Slap, could low blood sugar be a factor in your panic attacks?" -Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 05:29 AM (Nhjs9) No. In fact, they called me "pre-diabetic" at the doctor's office. Maybe they do that to everyone, (*tin-foil hat*), but I doubt it.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 01, 2016 12:33 AM (6gk0M)

351 No. In fact, they called me "pre-diabetic" at the doctor's office. Maybe they do that to everyone, (*tin-foil hat*), but I doubt it.


I think pre-diabetic is the doctor speak for,
"Hmm, I don't know until I find out what expensive tests your insurance will pay for"

Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 12:44 AM (8ikIW)

352 Is there a bigger scumbag in politics these days than Paul Ryan?  I swear that man out-sleazes Hillary.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 12:44 AM (Nhjs9)

353 Slap, I think you've got it figured out on the "pre-diabetic" thing.  They did the same to a friend who has never, ever had blood sugar issues.  She was well-insured and they had her coming in once a week for blood sugar tests.  She finally figured out that she was just a cash cow and there was nothing wrong with her blood sugar.

You wouldn't be insured by Kaiser, would you?

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 12:46 AM (Nhjs9)

354 "I think pre-diabetic is the doctor speak for, "Hmm, I don't know until I find out what expensive tests your insurance will pay for" " -Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 05:44 AM (8ikIW) I didn't have insurance at the time. I was self-employed, paying in cash.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 01, 2016 12:47 AM (6gk0M)

355 Mornin' the Dowager Queen of Chautauqua Hey, it's Chappaqua. Big difference. Let's not impugn the quaint Western NY village of Chautauqua.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at August 01, 2016 12:54 AM (WlGX+)

356 "Is there a bigger scumbag in politics these days than Paul Ryan? I swear that man out-sleazes Hillary." -Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 05:44 AM (Nhjs9) He has to pacify his rabidly "Progressive" and indoctrinated constituents in Madison, Wisconsin and the outlying suburbs. Politicians are what they are. They become bastardized once they are in the system. Holding-on becomes "A Thing", so they might pass some sort of legislation that they wanted from the beginning. In the meanwhile, they "go with the flow", so as to make "friends" and reduce attacks by enemies. It is too bad that the Conservatives don't stand upon the foundation of the Constitution. Meanwhile, Trump, (who is NOT a conservative), fist-fights and uses the Left's tactics to "survive" the political atmosphere.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 01, 2016 12:54 AM (6gk0M)

357 Okay... gotta head out to the job-site. Later, gators!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 01, 2016 12:55 AM (6gk0M)

358 362 No. In fact, they called me "pre-diabetic" at the doctor's office. Maybe they do that to everyone, (*tin-foil hat*), but I doubt it.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at August 01, 2016 05:33 AM (6gk0M)


Do you have a family history of diabetes?  It is largely a hereditary disease.  If you don't then your odds on getting type I diabetes are low unless you are morbidly obese.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 12:55 AM (mpXpK)

359 Good morning morons. Obama ate a dog. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 01, 2016 05:14 AM (TRlQT) Speaking of which, I haven't heard much about Bo in the news of late. Missing in action or found on a plate?

Posted by: RickZ at August 01, 2016 12:55 AM (hkdnQ)

360 I will have some more stuff on RINO Ryan in 5 min.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 12:56 AM (mpXpK)

361 No history of diabetes, Vic. BTW... thanks for keeping me awake before I had to leave, guys! *static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), ([b]T[/b]) [/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 01, 2016 12:57 AM (6gk0M)

362 Carry on, Slap.  Later.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 12:58 AM (Nhjs9)

363 Good Morning Morons.  Today is Monday, August 01, 2016. On this day in 1981 MTV began broadcasting in the United States and aired its first video, "Video Killed the Radio Star" by The Buggles.  MTV is now just another shit reality show.  And yes, video did kill the radio star and rock music for that matter, especially female music stars.  Hawt babe became the draw rather than music talent.  Janis Joplin would have gone nowhere in today's environment.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 12:59 AM (mpXpK)

364 The 2016 Presidential debates are scheduled.  There are three, and two of them are scheduled on the same nights as NFL football games.  Something the dems did to help Scankles against Sanders.  The Trump campaign cries foul and they are right.


http://tinyurl.com/h6zbw3s

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 12:59 AM (mpXpK)

365 Investigators have determined that hot air balloon which caught on fire and crashed in TX Saturday hit a high voltage power line first which caused the fire and accident.


http://tinyurl.com/z4sfcrb

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:00 AM (mpXpK)

366 University of WI at Greenbay wants to hold a class on "Green Lives Matter".  Of course the Black Lives Matter thugs are not happy.  The ones who should really be mad are the WI taxpayers for helping to fund this worthless BS course.


http://tinyurl.com/z59b7p8

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:00 AM (mpXpK)

367 E-coli outbreak from General Mills flour?  Gov says yes, General Mills say they have found none at the suspect plant but are recalling the flour from there.  Who to believe, the government or General Mills?  It's a toss-up.


http://tinyurl.com/j2847rg

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:01 AM (mpXpK)

368 Morning. Why'd ya'll have to get me up so early?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 01, 2016 01:01 AM (9ym/8)

369 One more strike against the political pope.  He says islam is not the cause of muzzie terrorism.


http://tinyurl.com/h958ulp

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:01 AM (mpXpK)

370 Ford is now offering three new packages for its Mustang GT for upping its already impressive 435HP V8.  It can go up to as much as 500HP now.  That's getting up there near the amount the old Dodge 426 Hemi used to pump out and it's from a 302 c.u. engine. I'm sure the insurance companies will love this.  They are what actually killed the high performance pony car market in the late 60s.  Back a long time ago at the Dodge place in my old hometown the dealer had a Challenger with a 340 six pack in it.  It sat on the lot for a number of years because nobody could afford the insurance for it.


http://tinyurl.com/hpyqtyg

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:01 AM (mpXpK)

371 More evidence comes forward that shows Baltimore's corrupt State's Attorney General should be disbarred and prosecuted over the Freddie Grey case.  Will she?  Not a chance, she is protected by Black Democratium in a blue State.


http://tinyurl.com/j5fdozl

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:01 AM (mpXpK)

372 Attention, where are the BLM thugs on this multiple killing of black lives in Austin?  Oh, the suspect person of interest is a black; never mind.  Also note that this comes from a Brit paper, our MFM is not using the story.


http://tinyurl.com/hgc46j9

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:02 AM (mpXpK)

373 Politifact liars score another 10E5 Pinocchios on a Scankles quote.


http://tinyurl.com/zmeyjlk

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:02 AM (mpXpK)

374 Hey Mr Pope, here's some more muzzie murder for you.


http://tinyurl.com/h2dbntk

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:02 AM (mpXpK)

375 Scankles' campaign manager says her e-mail <felonies> are no longer relevant when asked on Meet The Mess.  I'm surprised they even asked him about it.


http://tinyurl.com/j43on9y

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:02 AM (mpXpK)

376 Another man bites the dust over criticizing black thugs and the DNC on Facebook.  Even in Dallas you are not safe.


http://tinyurl.com/gs4hwyh

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:02 AM (mpXpK)

377 Scankles helped undermine US security in deal with Russia's "silicon valley".  The question is how much money did she get for this?  I did not follow the link which goes to the WSJ behind a paywall. (more later)


http://tinyurl.com/hwgu72b

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:03 AM (mpXpK)

378 RINO Ryan joins the Democrats and MFM (BIRM) in attacking Trump over muzzie comments.


http://tinyurl.com/jdto8h5

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:03 AM (mpXpK)

379 BB is joining with Gravis Polling to provide real time data on the upcoming election.


http://tinyurl.com/zz6vuok

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:03 AM (mpXpK)

380 And here are some of their first results.  Americans are fed up with the "immigration mess", both illegal AND legal.  This is really what got Trump in the race steam-rolling all other candidates in primary after primary.  The pro-amnesty RNCe candidates did not have a chance.  


http://tinyurl.com/h6gavgj

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:03 AM (mpXpK)

381 Pat Caddell says this poll reflects the big disconnect between the RNCe (and Democrats) and the voters on immigration.


http://tinyurl.com/jloplv6

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:04 AM (mpXpK)

382 NY Post confirms Scankles got a shit ton of money for her charity scam from that Russia deal.


http://tinyurl.com/htpc9up

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:04 AM (mpXpK)

383 NSA whistleblower says NSA has ALL of Scankles e-mails and the FBI could access them if "they wanted" which pretty much confirms that the FBI "investigation", although it did show many felonies, was still a cover-up.  Things were most likely much worse than what Comey even admitted to.


http://tinyurl.com/hv36brk

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:04 AM (mpXpK)

384 Pat Caddell, a former Democrat pollster and adviser, says Reuters has rigged its polls to help Scankles. Of course they have.


http://tinyurl.com/znjxy4z

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:04 AM (mpXpK)

385 Regulatory tyranny, otherwise known as Fascism:  It takes 4 times longer to get a license to braid hair in OK than it does to get one to be an EMT.  This is solely due to crony corruption.


http://tinyurl.com/jpwynfw

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:05 AM (mpXpK)

386 Ramirez


http://tinyurl.com/jktxf8o


That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:05 AM (mpXpK)

387 "that hot air balloon which caught on fire and crashed in TX Saturday hit a high voltage power line" Primary reason I'll never go for a balloon ride. It sounds like a nice, pleasant idea until the wind the picks up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 01, 2016 01:05 AM (9ym/8)

388 I bought a Challenger back in '73 and you're right, Vic.  I had to order the 318 engine because I couldn't afford to ensure the 340.

Bought another one in 2011.  It has a six-cylinder engine and more power than I could ever need.  To put the cherry on the sundae, it'll crank out 30 mpg without trying and 40 if you're careful.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 01:06 AM (Nhjs9)

389 I threw some money at Ryan's primary opponent last week.  He's not just Wisconsin's problem.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 01:07 AM (Nhjs9)

390 Grey Lives Matter We live forever in the shadows, our beautiful guitar-pick-shaped heads covered by clumsy prosthetics, forced to don these misshapen humanoid bodysuits and to speak your primitive languages. Enough is enough. Screw your Human Privilege. We demand the institution of Venusian Law immediately. We reject the militarization of the MiB. We demand the deportation of all Lizardoids. And most of all, we demand the right to anally probe in peace.

Posted by: The Greys at August 01, 2016 01:07 AM (WlGX+)

391 "The Greys" Can you cut it out with the probing. And why are you always abducting people and doing freaky shit to them? Jeez, come on.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 01, 2016 01:09 AM (9ym/8)

392 And why are you always abducting people I'll let you in on a secret: Most of the probees are volunteers. Oh sure, that's not the way they tell it later...

Posted by: The Greys at August 01, 2016 01:11 AM (WlGX+)

393 I'll let you in on a secret: Most of the probees are volunteers. Oh sure, that's not the way they tell it later... Posted by: The Greys


"A million to one shot Doc"

Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 01:13 AM (8ikIW)

394 400 I bought a Challenger back in '73 and you're right, Vic. I had to order the 318 engine because I couldn't afford to ensure the 340.

Bought another one in 2011. It has a six-cylinder engine and more power than I could ever need. To put the cherry on the sundae, it'll crank out 30 mpg without trying and 40 if you're careful.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 06:06 AM (Nhjs9)


The 69 340 with the 4 barrel Carter was a mean engine.  The one with three deuces was even meaner. The automakers vastly underrated the HP on their engines but the insurance agencies caught on to that pretty quickly. They rated the 4-barrel 340 at 275 but IIANM it was actually closer to just over 300. The 6-pack was even more. My older brother had one with the 4-barrel.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:17 AM (mpXpK)

395 I was at my family reunion yesterday and all was clam.
Some of the guys were talking about fish and fishing and the Asian carp was brought up. One of my female cousins asked, "why doesn't someone catch up all of these carp and get them to the poor people that need protein?"
I replied, why don't the poor people get a pole and go to the river where the fish hang out?

Crickets

Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 01:18 AM (8ikIW)

396 "Oh sure, that's not the way they tell it later..." Ah, well, if they're asking for it. What can you do?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 01, 2016 01:19 AM (9ym/8)

397 407 I was at my family reunion yesterday and all was clam.
Some of the guys were talking about fish and fishing and the Asian carp was brought up. One of my female cousins asked, "why doesn't someone catch up all of these carp and get them to the poor people that need protein?"
I replied, why don't the poor people get a pole and go to the river where the fish hang out?

Crickets

Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 06:18 AM (8ikIW)



IIANM the wildlife departments who have deployed those Asian carp have made it illegal to catch them.  They weren't put there as a game fish and carp in general are shitty as an eating fish.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:24 AM (mpXpK)

398 Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 06:18 AM (8ikIW)

Sorry to hear it was clammy there.

They actually do catch the Asian carp here in the Big River.  A local fishery hauls them in by the ton and ships them to Chicago where they're sold to Orientals.

Can I say that?..."Orientals"?

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 01:25 AM (Nhjs9)

399 Vic, I don't know what kind of mileage your brother got out of the big engine but my 318 would churn out a whopping 14 mpg on the highway.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 01:27 AM (Nhjs9)

400 They actually do catch the Asian carp here in the Big River. A local fishery hauls them in by the ton and ships them to Chicago where they're sold to Orientals.

Can I say that?..."Orientals"?


That's what I had thought. Then I had read where it wasn't making money and they had stopped. Maybe it was just the one guy by Savanna, Il.

Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 01:27 AM (8ikIW)

401 Anyone else notice the sudden focus on "good Muslims"?  How stupid do they think we are?

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 01:29 AM (Nhjs9)

402 I only come here for the wisdom.

Posted by: Haupman Lyndafeltercarbengruber at August 01, 2016 01:30 AM (T8bq0)

403 Bruce, they had a fire.  It destroyed the retail building and they're still recovering.  And yes, that's the same fishery.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 01:30 AM (Nhjs9)

404 410  They actually do catch the Asian carp here in the Big River. A local fishery hauls them in by the ton and ships them to Chicago where they're sold to Orientals.

Can I say that?..."Orientals"?

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 06:25 AM (Nhjs9)


I have heard rumors that their deployment, like a lot of government programs, was a huge mistake and that they are running wild in some areas because no natural predators.  Although something most fishing people hated, the alligator gar are said to be hitting them now.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:31 AM (mpXpK)

405 "I only come here for the wisdom. " Good luck.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 01, 2016 01:32 AM (9ym/8)

406 I caught an Asian carp on rod and reel a couple of years ago.  Our domestic carp will put up quite a fight.  This fish had no spunk at all.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 01:32 AM (Nhjs9)

407 411 Vic, I don't know what kind of mileage your brother got out of the big engine but my 318 would churn out a whopping 14 mpg on the highway.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 06:27 AM (Nhjs9)


He got pretty good mileage . . . as long as he didn't put the foot in it and kick those secondaries.  When you did that the gas gauge dropped, the noise level upped, and every cop with 5 miles could hear it.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:33 AM (mpXpK)

408 I have heard rumors that their deployment, like a lot of government programs, was a huge mistake and that they are running wild in some areas because no natural predators. Although something most fishing people hated, the alligator gar are said to be hitting them now.
Posted by: Vic

Do you mean Orientals?

I though they had jumped some barriers (they actually do leap out of the water) from some fish farms. They made there way into the rivers, and are now headed into the Great Lakes.
Probably the easiest way to get rid of them is to make it illegal to catch them.
Then people will be on the shore shooting them with shotguns

Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 01:34 AM (8ikIW)

409 "I only come here for the wisdom. " Good luck. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 01, 2016 06:32 Asian carp were deliberately imported into the US. I did not know that. Learning takes place here.

Posted by: Haupman Lyndafeltercarbengruber at August 01, 2016 01:34 AM (T8bq0)

410 "Although something most fishing people hated, the alligator gar are said to be hitting them now. " That's good. Gar are hated. If they have found a redeeming quality then that's a change.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 01, 2016 01:35 AM (9ym/8)

411 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 06:33 AM (mpXpK)

Excuse me?  What is the point of owning a muscle car if you don't put your foot in it occasionally?

My son borrowed the Orange Streak last week for a run to Chicago.  He said he was cruising along I-80 when he looked down and discovered he was doing 100 mph.  She doesn't like slow.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 01:35 AM (Nhjs9)

412 I caught an Asian carp on rod and reel a couple of years ago. Our domestic carp will put up quite a fight. This fish had no spunk at all.
Posted by: creeper

Huh. I had seen where the goofy things are leaping out of the water and there are some people going after them with a boat and a baseball bat.
I thought they would put up a better fight.

Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 01:36 AM (8ikIW)

413 All this talk is making me want to go fishing.  Haven't been for a while.  I usually only go fishing when I am down in GA with brothers.  Then I have to get a temporary out of State fishing license.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:37 AM (mpXpK)

414 They do jump.

http://tinyurl.com/nxgw25m

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 01:39 AM (Nhjs9)

415 423

Excuse me? What is the point of owning a muscle car if you don't put your foot in it occasionally?

posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 06:35 AM (Nhjs9)


Oh he put his foot in it a lot of times.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:40 AM (mpXpK)

416 All this talk is making me want to go fishing. Haven't been for a while. I usually only go fishing when I am down in GA with brothers. Then I have to get a temporary out of State fishing license.
Posted by: Vic


I enjoy going and being on or near the water. I am a lazy fisherman though. When I'm out of coffee or beer, I'm done.

Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 01:40 AM (8ikIW)

417 Excuse me? What is the point of owning a muscle car if you don't put your foot in it occasionally?

posted by: creeper

I had bought a used 69 Charger in 74. It only had a 318 in it, but it did look fast just standing still.

Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 01:43 AM (8ikIW)

418 "I am a lazy fisherman though. " Nothing wrong with that. Isn't that the point? If you just want to sit on the bank and throw in a bobber and, well, use it as an excuse to be sitting on the bank.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 01, 2016 01:45 AM (9ym/8)

419 The Greys I guess you ARE here for the hunting!

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 01, 2016 01:46 AM (BD9cb)

420 429  I had bought a used 69 Charger in 74. It only had a 318 in it, but it did look fast just standing still.

Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 06:43 AM (8ikIW)


I would love to have one of those new 500HP Mustangs.  But IIANM they run between 40 and 50 thousand.  And I suspect the insurance is awful.  My first new car cost $2700.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:48 AM (mpXpK)

421 Nothing wrong with that. Isn't that the point? If you just want to sit on the bank and throw in a bobber and, well, use it as an excuse to be sitting on the bank.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 01, 2016 06:45 AM (9ym/

^^^This^^^   My dad used to say that time spent fishing did not come off your allotted life span.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 01:49 AM (Nhjs9)

422 Nothing wrong with that. Isn't that the point? If you just want to sit on the bank and throw in a bobber and, well, use it as an excuse to be sitting on the bank. Posted by: Ricardo Kill

That's me!
I have gone with a friend that's very into fishing. He'll stay out for 3-4 hours at a time on his boat, have lunch, then back out again. For me, after about 2 hours, I want a comfy chair or a bar stool.

Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 01:49 AM (8ikIW)

423 As for Bergoglio, it didn't take me long to realise that the Papacy has another dud on its hands. On the bright side, the Church survived the synodus horrenda; implying it can survive just about anything.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at August 01, 2016 01:51 AM (BD9cb)

424 It drive me crazy to go fishing with a dedicated fisherman.  If they don't get a bite in ten minutes they want to move.  NO!  Leave the anchor where it is and open another beer!

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 01:52 AM (Nhjs9)

425 I would love to have one of those new 500HP Mustangs. But IIANM they run between 40 and 50 thousand. And I suspect the insurance is awful. My first new car cost $2700.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

One of the worst things for me is sitting at a stoplight and having some "kid" who wasn't even born when the cars I still covet, pulls up next to me in a nicely restored, Charger, Challenger, Roadrunner, Camaro, Mustang, 442, GTO.

Then they blip the throttle.
Me, I'm in a minivan

Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 01:53 AM (8ikIW)

426 436 It drive me crazy to go fishing with a dedicated fisherman. If they don't get a bite in ten minutes they want to move. NO! Leave the anchor where it is and open another beer!

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 06:52 AM (Nhjs9)


Well I have found if you don't get a bite at all within 10 to 20 minutes you aren't going to get anything there. Fish are peculiar.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 01:54 AM (mpXpK)

427 I thought they would put up a better fight.
Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 06:36 AM
~~~~

Maybe they brought in French Carp by mistake?

Posted by: IrishEi at August 01, 2016 01:55 AM (Lsu4e)

428 Maybe they brought in French Carp by mistake?
Posted by: IrishEi

HA!

Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 01:56 AM (8ikIW)

429 Maetenloch shoots and scores yet again.

Posted by: FireHorse at August 01, 2016 02:00 AM (qF2sM)

430 LOL, the 2016 Shelby GT-350R with 526HP engine is a mere $55,195.


How can those "poor" kids afford that and the insurance?  I couldn't afford it now.


http://tinyurl.com/q3y7lsf

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 02:05 AM (mpXpK)

431 PS, if you are a "Chevy Man" and like the 'Vette it is a lot more.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 02:06 AM (mpXpK)

432 Why did they bring the carp in in the first place?

Posted by: Infidel at August 01, 2016 02:07 AM (VFyLH)

433 "It drive me crazy to go fishing with a dedicated fisherman. " I understand it both ways. Sometimes you can be dedicated and really wanting to catch fish. Other times, you just want a reason to get away from the job, the phone, the wife, the kids, the in-laws. Have some peace and "alone time." I don't judge or begrudge a person's reason for "fishing."

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at August 01, 2016 02:08 AM (9ym/8)

434 444 Why did they bring the carp in in the first place?

Posted by: Infidel at August 01, 2016 07:07 AM (VFyLH)


To eat the grass which was choking rivers, lakes, and streams. They are sometimes called "grass eating carp".

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 02:09 AM (mpXpK)

435

Anyone else notice the sudden focus on "good Muslims"? How stupid do they think we are?

 

Two-term president Barack  Hussein   Obama.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 01, 2016 02:11 AM (X6fMO)

436 Well I have found if you don't get a bite at all within 10 to 20 minutes you aren't going to get anything there. Fish are peculiar.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 06:54 AM (mpXpK)

True.  But in my case the object is not to catch fish.  It is to go fishing.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 02:12 AM (Nhjs9)

437 What a mess.  Is there anything the gov't can't screw up.


Thanks for the VNN!

Posted by: Infidel at August 01, 2016 02:12 AM (VFyLH)

438 449 What a mess. Is there anything the gov't can't screw up.


Thanks for the VNN!

Posted by: Infidel at August 01, 2016 07:12 AM (VFyLH)


Well the eco-nazis claim that the grass problem was caused by horrid farmers who over fertilized their fields next to rivers and streams and the run-off caused the over-growth of grass.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 02:16 AM (mpXpK)

439 What a mess. Is there anything the gov't can't screw up.

They have a special department just to figure that out. But, they haven't agreed on the title of the department yet, or a wacky fun acronym so they can't have meetings.

Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 02:17 AM (8ikIW)

440 So the British Hippy parents- where to start? ALL NATURAL living? They are wearing manufactured clothes. They are living in house/apartment. They buy groceries from the store. They have a plastic toys for the kids. They receive benefits from the government. Just like early man did.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 01, 2016 02:17 AM (6n332)

441 "444 Why did they bring the carp in in the first place?" The feds brought Asian carp to my lakes as a grass-control effort. We were assured that, just like the alligators that are now everywhere, they wouldn't be able to reproduce in our winters. Stupid fuckers.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 01, 2016 02:18 AM (97XyN)

442 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 07:16 AM (mpXpK)

Yeah, right.  It has absolutely nothing to do with the locks and dams they put in in the '30's, making the river just one long series of shallow lakes.

Nothing at all.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 02:18 AM (Nhjs9)

443 Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz.
My friends all drive porsches, I must make amends.
 
Joplin was a proto-yuppie.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tGuJ34062s

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at August 01, 2016 02:18 AM (gyKtp)

444 The feds brought Asian carp to my lakes as a grass-control effort. We were assured that, just like the alligators that are now everywhere, they wouldn't be able to reproduce in our winters.

Stupid fuckers. Posted by: Cloyd Freud

That was before the GLOBAL WARMINGINGINGING!!

Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 02:19 AM (8ikIW)

445 413 Anyone else notice the sudden focus on "good Muslims"? How stupid do they think we are? Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 06:29 AM (Nhjs9) I saw via Twitter Muslims visiting a catholic church after the event in France. If I was mayor, rather than have Muslims visit a cathedral, I'd have Jews visit the mosque. Because diversity makes us stronger.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 01, 2016 02:19 AM (VdICR)

446 Good luck getting a Jew into a mosque.  Or at least out alive.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 02:20 AM (Nhjs9)

447 Because diversity makes us stronger. Posted by: BourbonChicken

How about a large group of people and their service animals?
Dogs, pigs, monkeys. Whatever you got.

Posted by: Bruce at August 01, 2016 02:21 AM (8ikIW)

448 Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz.
My friends all drive porsches, I must make amends.

=====

I had a printed copy of the lyrics on my refrigerator door when my older two girls were teenagers.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 01, 2016 02:22 AM (MIKMs)

449 I fell asleep before the ONT, so I just read about that awful off-grid British family. Ugh. Extended breastfeeding drives me crazy, especially when the people who do it justify it as 'natural.' You know what's natural? Not using birth control and having a kid every year or two. No woman would breastfeed a seven-year-old, a five-year-old, a four-year-old, a two-year-old and a newborn. She just wouldn't. So no, breastfeeding your school-age child is not 'natural'.

Posted by: biancaneve at August 01, 2016 02:22 AM (3fayT)

450 454  Yeah, right. It has absolutely nothing to do with the locks and dams they put in in the '30's, making the river just one long series of shallow lakes.

Nothing at all.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 07:18 AM (Nhjs9)


Theoretically those dams are not supposed to change river flow once the level has stabilized.  They are supposed to release water at the same rate that it is coming into the impoundment.   We had such a man-created lake and federal law regulated the release rate from the dam in that manner.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 02:23 AM (mpXpK)

451 Dunno if this has been linked here before.  Worth a read.

"The Last American Presidential Election"

http://tinyurl.com/huz3nl3

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 02:23 AM (Nhjs9)

452 "Dogs, pigs, monkeys. Whatever you got." I think pet pigs are going to be a thing. For mysterious, ineffable reasons. Ineffable, I tell ya.'

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 01, 2016 02:24 AM (97XyN)

453 Again true, Vic, although they mess with the flow rate consistently.

What happened was that the locks raised the level of the water so that the surrounding lowlands were submerged.  The water started out fairly deep but over time, those lowlands have filled in.  The result is the grass those carp were intended to control.

It's everywhere.  You can't even avoid it by staying in the channel because a rising river will flush it out of the backwaters.  You have to clear the prop every quarter mile or so.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 02:28 AM (Nhjs9)

454 New "multi-use" developments built around barbecue restaurants. Hmm...

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 01, 2016 02:31 AM (97XyN)

455 I forgot, a blind man with a service dog. There are strong laws protecting them. Not as strong as the social pressure to accommodate religious sensibilities I fear. All of this is obnoxious. Not racist, but it is obnoxious. But I think it's safer to move the Overton window than not to.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 01, 2016 02:32 AM (VdICR)

456 465 Again true, Vic, although they mess with the flow rate consistently.

What happened was that the locks raised the level of the water so that the surrounding lowlands were submerged. The water started out fairly deep but over time, those lowlands have filled in. The result is the grass those carp were intended to control.

It's everywhere. You can't even avoid it by staying in the channel because a rising river will flush it out of the backwaters. You have to clear the prop every quarter mile or so.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 07:28 AM (Nhjs9)


Well, they do have to vary it during periods of heavy rain.  If you know a heavy influx is going to occur you need to up the flow out before that heavy influx his the lake so that a massive outflow is not required which will result in flooding.


However, you have to get "permission" from the feds to do that.  (more stupid)  We had an event years ago where heavy rains upstream were sure to cause a massive increase in lake level and requested to increase outflow in preparation for it.  The feds drug their sorry asses for a long time before granting permission but it was too late.


We wound up having to open the "Hal-Bunger" valves to massively release water for the first time since the dam was built.  Of course the stream down stream of the dam flooded.  Homes and at least one factory were flooded and we got sued.  Not the incompetent feds.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 02:36 AM (mpXpK)

457 Janis could have bought her own damn Mercedes-Benz if she didn't blow all her dough on drugs.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at August 01, 2016 02:43 AM (4+VII)

458 Vic, the Corps contends that they do not use the dams for flood control and from what I've seen that's correct.  Their sole purpose is to maintain a nine-foot channel for commercial traffic.

When Old Man River gets to flooding, what goes through the dams is a drop in the bucket.  One of my favorite memories is of going through the DAM (not the lock) at Bellevue in flatwater during a flood.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 02:43 AM (Nhjs9)

459 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 01, 2016 02:46 AM (3ZoRf)

460 In practice, one of the functions of a dam is to act as a sort of "capacitor" for water flow to dampen out flow oscillations that result in flooding.  Overall, the construction of all the dams in the Tennessee River area have been a great boon to the area and the economy.


And the Dems take credit for it under FDR.  Nobody mentions that it actually started as a "private" project that FDR illegally co-opted.


The same thing happened here in SC with Lake Santee.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 02:46 AM (mpXpK)

461 470 Vic, the Corps contends that they do not use the dams for flood control and from what I've seen that's correct.


Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 07:43 AM (Nhjs9)


If they said that they are lying. Are they the ones who actually operate the dams?

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at August 01, 2016 02:47 AM (mpXpK)

462 Dump up.

Posted by: HH at August 01, 2016 02:50 AM (DrCtv)

463 My son makes his living from the river.  I wouldn't want to see them take the dams out.  But I think they've failed miserably in managing the resultant backwaters.  In their defense, the Corps' budget has been gutted for years.

Posted by: creeper at August 01, 2016 02:50 AM (Nhjs9)

464 I can think of so many nefarious theories based on the astronauts bad-heart-and-arteries story. The fact that the drive-by-media is putting out this story is the best indicator that something nefarious is going on. More combat "Moon landing a hoax" meme? :-) The only thing more confirming than putting out an unsolicited story is when they won't even address a theory. (see islam made up, mohamed never existed)

Posted by: Conspiracy Nut at August 01, 2016 04:10 AM (rnH8X)

465 There has never been a doubt in my mind that Hillary Clinton was promised a shot at the presidency when she stepped aside for Obama in 2008..

Posted by: Hamilton at August 01, 2016 06:43 AM (TlNDs)

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