June 30, 2015

Overnight Open Thread (6-30-2015) – Link-o-rama Edition
— Maetenloch

Quote of the Day I

When Greece's finance minister, Yanis Varoufakis, in an early round of negotiations in Brussels, complained that Greek pensions could not be cut any further, he was reminded bluntly by his colleague from Lithuania that pensioners there have survived on far less. Lithuania, according to the most recent figures issued by Eurostat, the European statistics agency, spends 472 euros, about $598, per capita on pensions, less than a third of the 1,625 euros spent by Greece. Bulgaria spends just 257 euros. This data refers to 2012 and Greek pensions have since been cut, but they still remain higher than those in Bulgaria, Lithuania, Latvia, Croatia and nearly all other states in eastern, central and southeastern Europe.

And here Mark Steyn describes the onerous life of a Greek civil servant:

Greek public sector employees are entitled not only to 14 monthly paychecks per annum during their "working" lives, but also 14 monthly retirement checks per annum till death. Who's going to be around to pay for that?

So you can't borrow against the future because, in the crudest sense, you don't have one. Greeks in the public sector retire at 58, which sounds great. But, when ten grandparents have four grandchildren, who pays for you to spend the last third of your adult life loafing around?

Quote of the Day II

In the 1950s, the most puritanical place in America was somewhere in Kansas. Today it is Los Angeles.

-- Richard Miniter

Quote of the Day III

Blogger Glenn Reynolds noted that when the South was solidly Democratic, we got "Gone With the Wind" nostalgia. Now that it is profoundly less racist, but also less useful to Democrats, it's the enemy of all that is decent and good.

-- Jonah Goldberg

Quote of the Day IV

The F-35's ability to compete against other fighter aircraft in a close-in dogfight, even against the decades old designs it looks to replace, has always been a contentious issue. Long ago, the F-35's maneuverability was planned to far exceed that of fourth generation fighters. Over time, those claims eroded to the point where the troubled stealth jet is described as being "about as maneuverable as an F-16."

Also: The F-35 can now take off from a ski jump. So it has that going for it.

Moe Lane on the Pros and Cons of a Big Fat Greek Meltdown

Hard to argue effectively with that, although as I've noted earlier Greece is still an ally, which leads me to rather sentimentally not want it to collapse into some sort of Anarchy Free-Fire Zone. But, hey, elections have consequences. Greece has been making some very bad calls all throughout this crisis; not least of which was its inexplicable decision to hire Marxists to solve its economic problems. That's like hiring a radical Greenie to run your fission pile; he doesn't want to do the job, and even if he did he still doesn't know how. Hopefully the Greeks will wise up, soon. because the end result of that fission pile analogy would quite likely be a pile of corpses, and that is something that Commies are quite good at producing, alas.

What, you don't think that you can have a Third World collapse in Europe?  Why? It's not like there's some sort of Cause And Effect disruption field covering the continent.

Hillary Clinton to Fundraise with 'Anti-Christ'

Part of a pattern.

In 1975 the Clintons attended in a voodoo ceremony in Haiti. Hillary has also been known to communicate with the dead.

T-500 Days and Counting

Well Of Course: The Same Attorney Who Was in Charge of Retrieving Lois Lerner's Emails, Now in Charge of State Department Emails

Ouch: Jimmy Carter Says Obama's Foreign Policy Accomplishments Are 'Minimal'

Does the New York Times Want Catholics to Burn Museums?

Religion in a Plain Brown Envelope

The Longest Running Racist Organization in History

United Church of Christ divests from Israel

How the DEA Robbed a Man of $44,000 at the JFK Airport

Nevertheless, the DEA took all of Do's money under the assumption that he's involved in the drug business, despite being more than willing to let him go without even a citation. Do had planned to take his money to California to help his financially-struggling siblings out, but ran into the DEA first.

Then there's this:

The Plaintiff did not know that it was a violation of Federal regulations to carry cash in excess of $5,000 at the time of the seizure.There's a good reason for not knowing this. There is no federal regulation prohibiting citizens from walking around (or boarding planes) with any amount of cash. Asset forfeiture laws make this practice unwise, but nothing in federal law says Do was forbidden from boarding a plane with his $44,000.

Note that not only was there no evidence of any connection with drugs but that DEA agents simply took the money without even issuing a citation or summons. This is Mexican Federales shit.

And then it got worse.

What's Really in a Pair of $250 Beats Headphones

One Possible Upside From Gay Marriage

Mr. 401-K

In 1980, Ted Benna was fed up with the pension consultant business. Instead of looking for ways to help employees when they retired, employers were looking out for themselves and seeking tax deductions, while minimizing pensions.

...The 401-k was a page-and-a-quarter of the 1978 Tax Reform Act. It allowed companies to set up defined contribution plans in which employees put money in, invest it, and collect the money when they retire. No one envisioned what Benna did with the 401-k, and it is doubtful Congress intended it that way. Unions have come to oppose defined contribution plans. Perhaps because the 401-k makes it easier for workers to participate in capitalism.

He was working on refining the pension plan of Cheltenham National Bank of Philadelphia in 1980. He had gone into work on Saturday where he would not be distracted by colleagues and phone calls, he read the code and had a Eureka moment. He credits God for the discovery, and who am I to argue with him?

Benna's plan was brilliant, because it allowed pre-tax payroll deductions of the money, and allowed employers to match some of the investment to encourage hourly workers to save money for retirement by investing their savings in mutual funds. Because it was retirement money, this forced workers to think in the long term and not worry about day-to-day changes in the market.

But his plan was not in the law. Benna wrote it. None of that was in the 401-k legislation. Unsure of the legality of his plan, Cheltenham National Bank. He said, "My approach was that if the code doesn't say thou shalt not, then thou should be able to."

Johnson Cos., an insurance and finance company in Newtown, Pennsylvania, was the first to take the plunge. Benna received initial approval from the Internal Revenue Service, which later promulgated regulations enabling Benna's plan.

More than 30 years later, the 401-k is now a $4 trillion industry.

How To Make Thermite

"A blast furnace that fits in a vest pocket."

-- Wilhelm Ostwald, winner of the 1909 Nobel Prize in Chemistry

Rosie O'Donnell could not be reached for comment.

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The WETA Effect, or, Why Special Effects Peaked in the 90's

Then and Now

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The 1880 Gentleman's Surprise Chair

With hidden games, liquor, and pr0n.

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1 How To Make Thermite? I thought Walter White taught us that.

Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2015 05:20 PM (JVgzo)

2 here we go

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at June 30, 2015 05:21 PM (0O7c5)

3 So today's military is not hated enough. Let's bring up My Lai.

Posted by: Eromero at June 30, 2015 05:21 PM (go5uR)

4 Now I can say: First!

Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2015 05:22 PM (JVgzo)

5 I hear the Greeks just set their island on fire, in order to collect the insurance and pay off their debt.

Posted by: Roy at June 30, 2015 05:23 PM (fWLrt)

6 Okay, where can I get a Gentleman's Surprise Chair? Ah, never mind, my wife would find all the compartments.

Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2015 05:24 PM (JVgzo)

7 Shouldn't Greece be going gangbusters after those decades of socialism?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 30, 2015 05:24 PM (oVJmc)

8 "Dilemma of the Thermite Mogul"

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 30, 2015 05:26 PM (TF10X)

9 Well not first, but I'm early...and fairly drunk. Hey BC, time for a shot of tekillya? You make such great toasts. Do you remember we might be cousins? I have Cochrans in my line from Londonderry and Coshqueen.

Posted by: Farmer at June 30, 2015 05:27 PM (o/90i)

10 SO now it's de facto suspicious to have cash on hand. DEA will take it, or TSA will send a photo of it over Twitter. Citizens--->serfs by 2015. #WASTF

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at June 30, 2015 05:27 PM (NOIQH)

11 "Not all the thrust in Christiandom can save this fighter." - VADM Tom Connolly on the F-111B.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 05:27 PM (kdHdm)

12 Just a reminder (regarding the F-35 link) that Jalopnik is a Gawker Media site--something that had slipped my mind until today. Consider the source...

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik in a lace wig at June 30, 2015 05:27 PM (EHU9F)

13 Link o-rama indeed. Thanjs, Maet.

Posted by: tbodie at June 30, 2015 05:28 PM (SqM8E)

14 The question of who is going to pay for "public servant" pensions is something we are going to have to grapple with here in Illinois.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 30, 2015 05:29 PM (8zCR+)

15 MAET, i just want to say, I always look forward to reading your ONT. The links are always so interesting.

Posted by: @votermom at June 30, 2015 05:29 PM (pnTUQ)

16 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 30, 2015 05:29 PM (KCxzN)

17 Spent too much time reading the links and not enough time proof reading the post.

Posted by: tbodie at June 30, 2015 05:30 PM (SqM8E)

18 Ugh. Wonky page loads still.

Posted by: NCKate at June 30, 2015 05:30 PM (bP6xm)

19 Hello...

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 05:30 PM (L3p2N)

20 A gentleman does not search another man's drawers! I want that chair. I want it in teak with black leather and drawers lined in purple silk. And, good evening my precious poppets! Anybody have any sooper-'splodey plans for the Fourth?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 30, 2015 05:31 PM (jR7Wy)

21 Another black church is going up in flames.

Posted by: Mrs. Ace of Spades with a Wang! at June 30, 2015 05:31 PM (iQIUe)

22 "Ugh. Wonky page loads still." Yeah, having trouble too.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 05:32 PM (L3p2N)

23 Hooooooorde!!! Who did we piss off today? I would like to note, for the record, that the presumptive Democratic nominee for the President of the United States does not know how to work technology that's been commercially available for 40 years.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2015 05:32 PM (GEICT)

24 All Hail Eris.  This is an open comm circuit and knowing the Horde tis best not to ask those types of questions.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 05:32 PM (kdHdm)

25 Maybe we should change it to: "Beware of Greeks asking for gifts".

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 30, 2015 05:32 PM (KlVdw)

26 Trump is suing Univision for $500M.

Posted by: blaster at June 30, 2015 05:33 PM (2Ocf1)

27 21 Another black church is going up in flames. Posted by: Mrs. Ace of Spades with a Wang! at June 30, 2015 10:31 PM (iQIUe) --Reichtstag fire?

Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2015 05:33 PM (JVgzo)

28 Woot woot ONT Thanks Maet

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 30, 2015 05:34 PM (3mTLw)

29 Re: Luke/Leia... Rasputin is in Star Wars now?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] at June 30, 2015 05:34 PM (95CzI)

30 Ugh. Wonky page loads still. Posted by: NCKate at June 30, 2015 10:30 PM (bP6xm) --As long as it's not gronky.

Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2015 05:34 PM (JVgzo)

31 I just watched Twixt on netflix. The reviews were low but I liked it.It's a broke writer struggling with writer's block in a creepy town where a bizarre murder occured, and half the movie is him dreaming. Nice gothic atmosphere, much Poe-love.

Posted by: @votermom at June 30, 2015 05:34 PM (JJ9UW)

32 "Greece has been making some very bad calls all throughout this crisis; not least of which was its inexplicable decision to hire Marxists to solve its economic problems."

There was a comment from a guy in the center-right Greek opposition about the decision by Syriza to close the banks for a week.

He pointed out that in a modern economy with electronic financial networks and international trade orders to settle, damn little if anything can take place without banks being in active operation. And that it isn't just possible to shut the banks for a full week and not have that be severely consequential.

But, as he pointed out, the majority of Syriza party officials have never ever worked in the private sector in their entire lives, so they do not understand those consequences.

Fortunately, here in the United States, our top man has private sector experience. Albeit that the time he spent scooping for cones behind the counter at Baskin-Robbins as a teenager was his longest single stint of non-law-firm private sector employment.

So we got that going for us, which is nice.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 30, 2015 05:34 PM (noWW6)

33 "Greek public sector employees are entitled not only to 14 monthly paychecks per annum during their "working" lives, but also 14 monthly retirement checks per annum till death. " Wait. Wut?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 05:34 PM (L3p2N)

34 I need to host another Cthulhu-themed party Check out these horrors d'oeuvres: http://www.neatorama.com/spotlight/2015/06/26/Feasting-on-Alien-Invaders/

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 30, 2015 05:34 PM (jR7Wy)

35 His husband butt-buddy, Brown graduate Sean Eldridge, was the worst candidate of the 2014 election cycle. Fixed it for them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 05:35 PM (lojDy)

36 Yo, Farmer. Most of us have farmers in the past three generations somewhere. So we're probly related. Cuzzins, as it were.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at June 30, 2015 05:35 PM (KG0mU)

37 Sorry to go OT so soon, fellow fappers and fappees, but a strange thought has been nagging me: It's interesting that Obama and the MSM did not trot out their usual mantra of gun control this time as they did with the Colorado movie theater shooter, Sandy Hook Elementary CT massacre, and Gabby Gifford's shooting in AZ. Each of those incidents had an equally high or higher casualty rate than the one in Charleston, yet each time Dear Leader immediately grabbed a microphone to push "common sense gun control." Yet with Charleston the media instantaneously swarmed around the flag and not the usual culprit, guns. Just seems a bit, I don't know, inconsistent. And that gentlemen's chair is probably not available at Laz-E-Boy but it should be.

Posted by: fly gal at June 30, 2015 05:36 PM (pDXil)

38 Trump is suing Univision for $500M. Posted by: blaster at June 30, 2015 10:33 PM (2Ocf1) -- I hope he sues NBC also. Go toupee go!

Posted by: @votermom at June 30, 2015 05:36 PM (JJ9UW)

39 Apparently, like the event horizon of a black hole, the Failure-Puddle / Urinal Cake personality Chelsea thread will not release those trapped within.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] at June 30, 2015 05:36 PM (95CzI)

40 Hillarys emails Ben Smith of Buzzfeed emailed her that he he was talked out of a story or a line of thinking dated 22 Jun 09. what was the story

Posted by: ThunderB at June 30, 2015 05:36 PM (zOTsN)

41 I linked this here late last night. I can't believe it hasn't been featured: Remove Cat Before Flight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_8mdH20qTQ

Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2015 05:38 PM (sdi6R)

42 33 "Greek public sector employees are entitled not only to 14 monthly paychecks per annum during their "working" lives, but also 14 monthly retirement checks per annum till death. " Wait. Wut? Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 10:34 PM (L3p2N) I lived there in the late 80's early 90's. When the unions wanted a paid vacation, in addition to what they already had via mediation, they would go on strike. For a minimum of two weeks. They would then come back, with full pay for those two weeks, plus extra money for something or other. The rest of us had to deal with Athens after two weeks of no electricity, water, taxis, bus service or garbage pickup. I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for them.

Posted by: Moki at June 30, 2015 05:38 PM (x303I)

43 Why Special Effects Peaked in the 90's This was honestly what I thought when I saw the first trailer for Jurassic World.

Posted by: Star Lord at June 30, 2015 05:39 PM (HstNY)

44 God Almighty, help me. I'm actually thinking of voting for Trump. I've decided, after SCOTUS abominations that I'm done, fuck the Repubs, so maybe this is actually in line with that. 

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 30, 2015 05:41 PM (dvuhZ)

45 I posted this earlier: Greece rejected austerity measures: moving retirement age from to 67 Increasing top income tax rate by 8%

Posted by: @votermom at June 30, 2015 05:41 PM (laX1j)

46 Anything "good" in the State dept. Hillary! document drop?

Posted by: donna at June 30, 2015 05:41 PM (Bn6aD)

47 Instead of just saying FYNQ about Chicago teacher pensions, the purportedly conservative Republican Governor is scrambling to cut a deal with the same entrenched power structure that has run this state into the ground.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 30, 2015 05:41 PM (8zCR+)

48 dated 22 Jun 09. what was the story Posted by: ThunderB at June 30, 2015 10:36 PM (zOTsN) June 2009 was when Honduras went through it's coup. President in exile and all that.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2015 05:41 PM (GEICT)

49 43 Why Special Effects Peaked in the 90's We died long before then -- Coherent Plot Lines

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] at June 30, 2015 05:41 PM (95CzI)

50 All of my long life Greece has had really weird politics. This whole thing was never going to end well. People are too peoply

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at June 30, 2015 05:41 PM (KG0mU)

51 Good evening, all. My attempts to not be demoralized by the news aren't working very well. It's almost like I've seen this movie before. I know that it has a happy ending, but there are going to a lot of unpleasant scenes between now and when the Hero of this story arrives.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit [/i][/b][/s] at June 30, 2015 05:43 PM (0RdKg)

52 Add some barium nitrate, sulphur, and dextrin in the proper amounts to thermite and make thermate instead. Add tad hotter than thermite, and easier to light.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at June 30, 2015 05:44 PM (l7Kbv)

53 g'night, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 30, 2015 05:44 PM (KCxzN)

54 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2015 10:32 PM (GEICT) Didn't stop bush I and the scanners. Wonder in Huma has a barcode tat somewhere on that muzzie body

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 30, 2015 05:44 PM (3mTLw)

55 Hola, Hordelings!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 30, 2015 05:44 PM (KpAcJ)

56 >>>Why Special Effects Peaked in the 90's <<<



Amazing, I am. Fuck themselves, they can.

Posted by: the Yoda jumping bean at June 30, 2015 05:44 PM (21zCy)

57 The question of who is going to pay for "public servant" pensions is something we are going to have to grapple with here in Illinois. Posted by: cm9000 at June 30, 2015 10:29 PM (8zCR+) I forgot you lived in IL. Yeah we are f*cked, but maybe w/ Rauner in something better than all Dems deciding things might work out. Call me an optimist.

Posted by: Farmer at June 30, 2015 05:45 PM (o/90i)

58 In under 100.

Posted by: Alana at June 30, 2015 05:45 PM (YHj+c)

59 "Greek public sector employees are entitled not only to 14 monthly paychecks per annum during their "working" lives, but also 14 monthly retirement checks per annum till death. Yep, that is how it works. Socialists put on wage controls, so they could only get paid so much per pay period. So they they struck for more pay periods.

Posted by: blaster at June 30, 2015 05:45 PM (2Ocf1)

60 Just a reminder (regarding the F-35 link) that Jalopnik is a Gawker Media site--something that had slipped my mind until today. Consider the source... Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik in a lace wig at June 30, 2015 10:27 PM (EHU9F) And isn't Gawker in some way funded by George Soros?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 05:46 PM (lojDy)

61 "When the unions wanted a paid vacation, in addition to what they already had via mediation, they would go on strike." Oh, yes, I've dealt with this with unions in Europe and S.A. But I didn't they got "extra" pay while being on strike.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 05:46 PM (L3p2N)

62 Jun 09 Honduras Coup She breaks her elbow after a fall (stroke?) and the riots after the Iranian elections

Posted by: ThunderB at June 30, 2015 05:46 PM (zOTsN)

63 Hillary has also been known to communicate with the dead ------ Will come in handy during the campaign. Important demographic.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 30, 2015 05:46 PM (NUqwG)

64 I like the then and now. Some bizzare, some really nice.

Posted by: Infidel at June 30, 2015 05:46 PM (HN5+8)

65 Shelbyville? Were the two divorcing women also first cousins?

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at June 30, 2015 05:47 PM (kivUY)

66 Yep, that is how it works. Socialists put on wage controls, so they could only get paid so much per pay period. So they they struck for more pay periods. Adhering to regular monthly intervals is succumbing to cis-normative chronology.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] at June 30, 2015 05:47 PM (95CzI)

67 However, the F35 is about a zillion dollars over budget and years behind schedule, and, oh, by the way, it can't do all the things they planned it for. But other than that, its awesome.

Posted by: blaster at June 30, 2015 05:47 PM (2Ocf1)

68 Can you believe that, even though there's no evidence of this, Mitt Romney may have Cayman Island bank accounts?

Posted by: Gawker LLC Grand Cayman, Cayman Island at June 30, 2015 05:47 PM (HstNY)

69 Yikes, I was at comment number 19 when I posted.

Posted by: Infidel at June 30, 2015 05:47 PM (HN5+8)

70 Hey Hey Hey, Horde!

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at June 30, 2015 05:48 PM (rJUlF)

71 "People are too peoply" People are the worst.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 05:48 PM (L3p2N)

72 >>>Add some barium nitrate, sulphur, and dextrin in the proper amounts to thermite and make thermate instead. Add tad hotter than thermite, and easier to light.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at June 30, 2015 10:44 PM (l7Kbv)<<<



G'day, thermate. Gonna toss another shrimp on the barbie.

Posted by: Crocodile Dundee at June 30, 2015 05:48 PM (21zCy)

73 62-the Greeks did. But I forgot to mention the constant threat of kneecapping, bombs and death from the various terrorist groups-November 17, Anarchists, and PLO subgroups. Good times, good times.

Posted by: Moki at June 30, 2015 05:49 PM (x303I)

74 Blaster, just like another jobs program that is called defense procurement - Eurofighter Typhoon.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 05:49 PM (kdHdm)

75 Speaking of cis-normative, the Larry Correia beatdown of the trilby-wearing SJW on Twitter is epic (for those of you who indulge in that particular social medium).

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] at June 30, 2015 05:49 PM (95CzI)

76 And, out!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] at June 30, 2015 05:50 PM (95CzI)

77 1/4 of the cost of the Beat headphones materials is the gift box.


Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at June 30, 2015 05:51 PM (oVJmc)

78 Night-o

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 05:51 PM (L3p2N)

79 What gets me is all the people who don't realize, and think impossible, that we're on the same trajectory as Greece. Hell, the entire West is.

 But they can gay-marry while the cities burn.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 30, 2015 05:51 PM (dvuhZ)

80 Speaking of cis-normative, the Larry Correia beatdown of the trilby-wearing SJW __________ I'll have a 10,000 word blog post on that tomorrow, rather than working on my next novel.

Posted by: George R. R. Martin at June 30, 2015 05:51 PM (HstNY)

81 The thing that kind of bothers me about the Slovak or Croat or whoever snarking on the Greeks about how much less their pensioners live on is that the cost of living is probably higher there than in Bumfuck Lithuania. They dug their own graves, I am not sticking up for them, but you can't compare circumstances that way. It's probably like comparing LA/NYC wages to rural wages. And I suspect there would (WILL) be a little whining her if (WHEN) SS was (IS) cut drastically. People these days get used to living right up to what they bring in. Again, not feeling too sorry for them all in all, but it would be the same thing here, other than the age of retirement. But not all of them getting their pension cut are 58. You have to figure there are a lot of old people. I feel for them, though it isn't sorry I'm feeling, just sad

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 05:52 PM (BVDFs)

82 And in other news Francisco Franco is still dead.

While Puero Rico is like Greece.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 05:52 PM (kdHdm)

83 Greece, Puerto Rico, Illinois. Nothing in common here.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2015 05:54 PM (DiZBp)

84 Just a reminder (regarding the F-35 link) that Jalopnik is a Gawker Media site--something that had slipped my mind until today. Consider the source... ------- And everyone keeps referring to Sprey as a co-designer of the F-16 and/or A-10. Nooooooooooooooooooo.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 30, 2015 05:54 PM (NUqwG)

85 They must be using metric months in Europe.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at June 30, 2015 05:55 PM (UcCs1)

86 >>>Greece, Puerto Rico, Illinois. Nothing in common here.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2015 10:54 PM (DiZBp)<<<



Nothin' a little high speed rail won't fix.

Posted by: California at June 30, 2015 05:56 PM (21zCy)

87 What gets me is all the people who don't realize, and think impossible, that we're on the same trajectory as Greece. Hell, the entire West is.

But they can gay-marry while the cities burn.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 30, 2015 10:51 PM (dvuhZ)



Until Sharia law takes over.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2015 05:56 PM (DiZBp)

88 86-awesome

Posted by: Moki at June 30, 2015 05:56 PM (x303I)

89 June 2009 was when Honduras went through it's coup. President in exile and all that. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2015 10:41 PM (GEICT) Small point of order: It was the president who tried to carry out the coup. barky backed the Honduran president on his coup attempt and tried to squelch the rest of Honduras' government, which was fighting the coup.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 30, 2015 05:56 PM (MYSVz)

90 Oh yeah, tonight on top of this being Meteor Day they are going to add a leap second to the clocks.

There is still time to panic the special little snowflakes of the 'impeding doom' this leap second will cause on their games and computers. 

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 05:56 PM (kdHdm)

91 "What gets me is all the people who don't realize, and think impossible, that we're on the same trajectory as Greece. Hell, the entire West is. But they can gay-marry while the cities burn. " Well, that's it. "Love wins" but people have lost the ability to produce wealth and understand international affairs. It's a Twitter world. Or West.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 05:57 PM (L3p2N)

92 Feminism ISN'T About Choice The old lie that was pushed by Feminists was that they wanted to "liberate" women and "empower" them so that they could pursue whatever they wanted to do. But as Feminism isn't about "equality," it isn't about choice either; it is about destroying the status quo so as to allow some delusion of utopia to spontaneously pop-up. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=9333

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 30, 2015 05:57 PM (7YlUk)

93 I'm reading Correia's conversation with @riseofthemike on Twitter. Mike says he's interested in Feminist Ecologies. Me, too! How about that? No, wait. I'm interested in FEMININE ecologies. IYKWIMAITYD. Never mind.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at June 30, 2015 05:57 PM (rJUlF)

94 No, they're never going to cut SS payments, or worse welfare. If the EBT cards stopped working, the major cities would be on fire within days.

  What they'll do is go to the equivalent of raw money printing (force the Fed to play ball, or whatever is required) to keep the checks flowing. That will of course guarantee inflationary collapse, but it will pay them short term time, which is all they'll be thinking about at the time.

   This debt bomb is not going to end well at all. The whole damn world is going to have to pay the piper and go through the Greatest Depression ever. And it ain't gonna be pretty for these little pussies we've raised in the lap of plenty and luxury. They are not hardy as my grandparents were.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 30, 2015 05:57 PM (dvuhZ)

95 86 They must be using metric months in Europe. Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at June 30, 2015 10:55 PM (UcCs1) It's no joke. A new calendar was part of the French Revolution's attempt to destroy the church. They threw away the 7 day week and went with the metric 10 day week. No shit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 30, 2015 05:58 PM (MYSVz)

96 It was the president who tried to carry out the coup. barky backed the Honduran president on his coup attempt and tried to squelch the rest of Honduras' government, which was fighting the coup. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 30, 2015 10:56 PM (MYSVz) "In July 2011, Honduras's Truth Commission concluded that Zelaya broke the law when he disregarded the Supreme Court ruling ordering him to cancel the referendum, but that his removal from office was illegal and a coup."

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2015 05:58 PM (GEICT)

97 And Gov. Jerry 'Moonbeam' Brown signed into law today SB.277 that requires all school age children, except those with a medical exemption, to be vaccinated before attending school.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 05:58 PM (kdHdm)

98 Looks like a cat perched and resting comfortably in that picture of what looks to be a blast furnace.

Posted by: Rex B at June 30, 2015 05:58 PM (rR7X6)

99 Obamacare, gay marriage - pffft, who cares? I've lost 15 pounds since March! (For a total of 60 pounds since 200 . Been gluten-free since 2008 (wheat allergy), and my doctor took me off of low-dose steroids a few months ago (I'd been on those since 2010). Michelle Obama can kiss my (now smaller) ass - my theory continues to be that obesity is an immune system disorder....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 30, 2015 05:59 PM (KpAcJ)

100 @90 June 2009 was when Honduras went through it's coup. President in exile and all that. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2015 10:41 PM (GEICT) Small point of order: It was the president who tried to carry out the coup. barky backed the Honduran president on his coup attempt and tried to squelch the rest of Honduras' government, which was fighting the coup. --------------------------- It was a coup and counter-coup, actually. The Honduran Constitution has no provision for removing a president from office. So when the president started his illegal actions, a counter-coup was the only option available for dealing with him.

Posted by: junior at June 30, 2015 05:59 PM (s1zlc)

101 that TSA bitch that posted the picture of the $75k on twitter - a lot of people calling her out on her twitter feed . . . any chance a secret subpoena ends up at twitter for those people's names etc and an addition makes it into the TSA's hassle the shit out of these people database?

Posted by: chelsea danger at June 30, 2015 05:59 PM (SZWTt)

102 Ha-ha. The YouTube advert I got before the CGI debate video started was from our Conservatives attacking the pretty-boy head of the Liberals. Ha-ha. I let it play through till the end rather than skip ad on it.

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at June 30, 2015 06:00 PM (kivUY)

103 "And everyone keeps referring to Sprey as a co-designer of the F-16"

Reading the reminiscences of Harry Hillaker, who really does deserve designer credit for the F-16, is very instructive. Many lessons packed in tightly.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 30, 2015 06:00 PM (noWW6)

104 They threw away the 7 day week and went with the metric 10 day week. No shit. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 30, 2015 10:58 PM (MYSVz) Just goes to show you the left's MO has been around for hundreds of years: "If it ain't broke, we'll break it so we can 'fix' it."

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at June 30, 2015 06:00 PM (rJUlF)

105 Here's an excellent article I saw tonight about the aftermath of the SpaceX launch failure: https://tinyurl.com/oh2bbp4 It's from Huffington Post, but it is a very good article. The author is right: Congress seems hell-bent on subsidizing the Russian space program while simultaneously starving U.S. companies.

Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2015 06:00 PM (sdi6R)

106 It's no joke. A new calendar was part of the French Revolution's attempt to destroy the church. They threw away the 7 day week and went with the metric 10 day week. No shit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 30, 2015 10:58 PM (MYSVz)




Le President Barry: A new calendar you say. All the new months get named after me!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2015 06:01 PM (DiZBp)

107 It's interesting that Obama and the MSM did not trot out their usual mantra of gun control this time as they did with the Colorado movie theater shooter, Sandy Hook Elementary CT massacre, and Gabby Gifford's shooting in AZ. Each of those incidents had an equally high or higher casualty rate than the one in Charleston, yet each time Dear Leader immediately grabbed a microphone to push "common sense gun control." Yet with Charleston the media instantaneously swarmed around the flag and not the usual culprit, guns. Just seems a bit, I don't know, inconsistent. That was about one thing and one thing only: division. The people of Charlston came together, balck and white, and rejected identity politics. Sharpton was not welcome. They chased Deray out of town. Something had to be done fast to keep Americans from being reminded that THIS is what we are all about as a nation, and the flag was it. Worked like a charm. Alinsky you magnificant bastard, I read your book!

Posted by: Weirddave at June 30, 2015 06:01 PM (7TK5d)

108 100-Congrats!!! Are you feeling better? A friend went gluten free to help with migraines, and it seemed to really help her.

Posted by: Moki at June 30, 2015 06:01 PM (x303I)

109 It was a coup and counter-coup, actually. The Honduran Constitution has no provision for removing a president from office. So when the president started his illegal actions, a counter-coup was the only option available for dealing with him. Posted by: junior at June 30, 2015 10:59 PM (s1zlc) Zelaya should have been shot. You just know he's going to pop up someplace, or sometime, and stir up shit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 06:03 PM (lojDy)

110 Anna @ 11 - Of course you know that is why the F-14, in keeping with Grumann's long line of feline named aircraft, was called the Tomcat.

Posted by: Butch at June 30, 2015 06:03 PM (HLx1C)

111 Just goes to show you the left's MO has been around for hundreds of years: "If it ain't broke, we'll break it so we can 'fix' it."

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at June 30, 2015 11:00 PM (rJUlF)




Funny how their "fixes" always include mass murder, reeducation camps and rampant poverty

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2015 06:03 PM (DiZBp)

112 Way to go, Teresa! All those pounds since 200(smiley face)

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at June 30, 2015 06:03 PM (KG0mU)

113

Le President Barry: A new calendar you say. All the new months get named after me!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2015 11:01 PM (DiZBp)

------------

And the world was rent assunder on the Fifteen of Barack.

Posted by: Nostradamus at June 30, 2015 06:03 PM (KlVdw)

114 "In July 2011, Honduras's Truth Commission concluded that Zelaya broke the law when he disregarded the Supreme Court ruling ordering him to cancel the referendum, but that his removal from office was illegal and a coup." Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2015 10:58 PM (GEICT) Yeah ... that was after two years of Barky having America's boot on Honduras' neck. The Honduran supreme court had the constitutional power to use the military to enforce their decision. Zelaya had ignored their earlier ruling and decided to hold a national referendum on his staying in office past the limit. He had his buddy Chavez print up ballots and, while they were being held at a military base (becuse the Honduran supreme court had ruled the referendum illegal) Zelaya and his junta just broke in and took them. This finally led the honduran supreme court to remove him (by a choice he was given) with the help of the military. Everyone in the world agreed that the honduran supreme court was in the right ... except for Barky. barky's explanation was that the voters had elected Zelaya so, therefore, he could do anything he wanted, "regardless of any stupid restrictions in the constitution".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 30, 2015 06:05 PM (MYSVz)

115 Okay who is Sprey and how is this dude being given credit on the A-10 and F-16?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 06:05 PM (kdHdm)

116 And isn't Gawker in some way funded by George Soros?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


And isn't this much like the story of Barack Obama?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 30, 2015 06:05 PM (+1T7c)

117 Funny how their "fixes" always include mass murder, reeducation camps and rampant poverty Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2015 11:03 PM (DiZBp) "Those aren't bugs, they're features!" -- Red Chinese Tech Support

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at June 30, 2015 06:06 PM (rJUlF)

118 Shouldn't Greece be going gangbusters after those decades of socialism?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel


That right there is first class snark.

That should be the comment of the day. 

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 30, 2015 06:06 PM (+1T7c)

119 Evening morons, how fares the horde? Night 4/6, I think--my grip on time sometimes slips with these long stretches. AP--Sprey was the head of the advanced tactical fighter project, he basically set the criteria for the F-16 and the A-10--wikipedia has a decent write-up on him.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 30, 2015 06:07 PM (b2cFu)

120 Everyone in the world agreed that the honduran supreme court was in the right ... except for Barky. barky's explanation was that the voters had elected Zelaya so, therefore, he could do anything he wanted, "regardless of any stupid restrictions in the constitution". Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 30, 2015 11:05 PM (MYSVz) Man, oh, man, but ain't that the African world view in a nutshell? Elect a dictator-for-life.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 06:07 PM (lojDy)

121 Illinois may become the first state to declare bankruptcy. Other candidates are Hawaii and New Jersey.   

Posted by: cm9000 at June 30, 2015 06:07 PM (8zCR+)

122 Just goes to show you the left's MO has been around for hundreds of years: "If it ain't broke, we'll break it so we can 'fix' it."

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at June 30, 2015 11:00 PM (rJUlF)


The lefts method is the same as Munchausen by proxy.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at June 30, 2015 06:08 PM (UcCs1)

123 I'll posit this, my company has recently been trying to hire some hourly associates in Honolulu. Because HI is a high cost of living/wage state we began offering employment at $15/hr. If you've got a high school diploma, some understanding of the English language, and, a pulse........we can take you on. We have applicants wanting $25/hr. And serious about it. They turn the job down and walk out.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 06:08 PM (L3p2N)

124 hi all
Congratulations Teresa!

Posted by: chemjeff at June 30, 2015 06:08 PM (2XMpf)

125 @109 - Mom I, I felt SO much better just 24 hours after eliminating gluten that the weight loss has just been icing on the cake. Funny thing is, I didn't change my eating habits; I just feel full on a whole lot less food. Apparently my body was really having a hard time trying to fight off its effects on me.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 30, 2015 06:08 PM (KpAcJ)

126 Okay who is Sprey and how is this dude being given credit on the A-10 and F-16? Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 11:05 PM (kdHdm) ----- Pierre Sprey who was one of the Fighter mafia with Boyd, etc. He was involved in drawing up the original design requirements for th A-X and had a role in the requirements for the LWF. He was no designer and did not work on actual aircraft designs. he was a statistician/analyst and was of some importance but not a designer.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 30, 2015 06:09 PM (NUqwG)

127 37 It's interesting that Obama and the MSM did not trot out their usual mantra of gun control this time as they did with the Colorado movie theater shooter, Sandy Hook Elementary CT massacre, and Gabby Gifford's shooting in AZ. Posted by: fly gal at June 30, 2015 10:36 PM (pDXil) I thought he did during his "eulogy" according to some Morons who listened in. I can't confirm personally as I can listen to him for no more than 0.25 seconds without screaming "FUCK YOU" and hitting mute.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik in a lace wig at June 30, 2015 06:09 PM (EHU9F)

128 122 Illinois may become the first state to declare bankruptcy. Other candidates are Hawaii and New Jersey. Posted by: cm9000 at June 30, 2015 11:07 PM (8zCR+) --IIRC Arkansas did in the '30s.

Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2015 06:09 PM (JVgzo)

129 HOOOORDE I got nothing. But I do continue to exist. So I got that going for me. Which is nice.

Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor[/i][/b][/s] at June 30, 2015 06:10 PM (e+1S5)

130 So the guy who merely issued the RFP gets the credit while the real designers get shoveled into obscurity.  That would be like ignoring Mitchell and praising the RAF for designing the Supermarine Spitfire.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 06:10 PM (kdHdm)

131 Man, oh, man, but ain't that the African world view in a nutshell? Elect a dictator-for-life. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 11:07 PM (lojDy) We can't say we weren't warned. Again and again and again ... And, to be fair to Barky, he got his political ideas from Indonesia. Sukarno was his political hero. And, shocka!!, Barky's turned out to act just like Sukarno, though not nearly as smart. Barky isn't even as smart as Sukarno's dog.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 30, 2015 06:10 PM (MYSVz)

132 126-good to know. I have an ulcer starting up, so I am willing to try anything at this point, rather than more meds. It certainly can't hurt.

Posted by: Moki at June 30, 2015 06:10 PM (x303I)

133 It was a coup and counter-coup, actually. The Honduran Constitution has no provision for removing a president from office. So when the president started his illegal actions, a counter-coup was the only option available for dealing with him. Posted by: junior at June 30, 2015 10:59 PM (s1zlc) The Honduran Supreme court noted that Zelaya violated the constitution by advocating being able to run for re-election, and that the constitution mandated that anyone who broke those that rule was automatically removed from office. All they did was declare that that was so. It should be noted the the Honduran Congress voted overwhelmingly in support of this, including most of Zelaya's own party. All the candidates who were running for President remained running for President and the election was for the most part fair and open.

Posted by: The Bananna and Fruit Hat at June 30, 2015 06:10 PM (7YlUk)

134 "So the guy who merely issued the RFP gets the credit while the real designers get shoveled into obscurity. That would be like ignoring Mitchell and praising the RAF for designing the Supermarine Spitfire." Yeah, from what I understand Sprey was "involved" but not really engineering anything. He claims a lot of credit, but.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 06:12 PM (L3p2N)

135 6 Okay, where can I get a Gentleman's Surprise Chair? Ah, nevegr mind, my wife would find all the compartments. Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2015 10:24 PM (JVgzo) Indeed, but did you find all of hers? Wink wink

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards, returned from 1080 exile at June 30, 2015 06:12 PM (cv6Ng)

136 Stupid autocorrect - @126 was directed to Moki ( who is NOT my mother )

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 30, 2015 06:12 PM (KpAcJ)

137 I got nothing. But I do continue to exist. So I got that going for me. Which is nice. Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at June 30, 2015 11:10 PM (e+1S5) Pretty much my story...except I found out today I may be an empty-nest parent sooner than I expected.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at June 30, 2015 06:12 PM (rJUlF)

138 Remove Cat Before Flight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_8mdH20qTQ Posted by: rickl ------------ Was featured, uh..., two nights ago, I think.

Posted by: Brucie Caitlyn at June 30, 2015 06:13 PM (F2IAQ)

139 "Barky isn't even as smart as Sukarno's dog." Didn't he eat Sukarno's dog...?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 06:13 PM (L3p2N)

140 Barky isn't even as smart as Sukarno's dog.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


Hey, let me be clear here.

I ate Sukarno's dog.  So who's the smart guy now?

Posted by: Barry Soetoro OBama Smith at June 30, 2015 06:13 PM (+1T7c)

141 Two Argentine airline pilots fired after letting a Playboy model play in their cockpit.

http://kfor.com/2015/06/29/pilots-fired-for-letting-playboy-model-fly-plane/

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 06:14 PM (kdHdm)

142 huh maybe I should try going gluten free for a little while

Posted by: chemjeff at June 30, 2015 06:14 PM (2XMpf)

143 Barky isn't even as smart as Sukarno's dog. And nowhere near as tasty.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 30, 2015 06:14 PM (W5DcG)

144 131 So the guy who merely issued the RFP gets the credit while the real designers get shoveled into obscurity. That would be like ignoring Mitchell and praising the RAF for designing the Supermarine Spitfire. Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 11:10 PM (kdHdm) Deserve's got nothing to do with it...but without Sprey, yeah, probably not, because he spoke the language the pencil pushers wanted to hear. Reading ace's takedown of the F-35 earlier, and the F-15/F-16 air superiority arguments, it reminded me of early Vietnam when the F4s were deployed without cannons. Cannons are not the primary mode of air-to-air combat, just as dogfighting is not, but it's foolish to dispatch with those capabilities completely.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 30, 2015 06:15 PM (b2cFu)

145 " going gluten free for a little while" What does that mean? What are glutens?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 06:15 PM (L3p2N)

146 And, to be fair to Barky, he got his political ideas from Indonesia. Sukarno was his political hero. And, shocka!!, Barky's turned out to act just like Sukarno, though not nearly as smart. Barky isn't even as smart as Sukarno's dog. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 30, 2015 11:10 PM (MYSVz) And what do Indonesia and much of Africa have in common? Hint: it begins with "i" and ends with "m". neither region ever had any tradition of Republican or Parliamentary government, and elections were never seen as recurring opportunities to select a new government, only as an annointment for a new "big man."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 06:15 PM (lojDy)

147 IIRC Arkansas did in the '30s.

Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2015 11:09 PM (JVgzo)



If so probably related to the Depression. Public pensions probably didn't play much of a role

Posted by: cm9000 at June 30, 2015 06:16 PM (8zCR+)

148 What does that mean? What are glutens? Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 11:15 PM (L3p2N) Ask the Orkin man.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at June 30, 2015 06:16 PM (rJUlF)

149
Yeah, from what I understand Sprey was "involved" but not really engineering anything. He claims a lot of credit, but.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill

I remember him being on some talking head show prior to the Gulf War in 1991, badmouthing the Abrams M1-A1.  Expecting a big failure in battle, from all the sand fouling the turbines, etc.
And then afterward, not even an..."oops, I was wrong"

Those guys know it all, ya know?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 30, 2015 06:17 PM (+1T7c)

150 gluten is a protein in wheat, basically

Posted by: chemjeff at June 30, 2015 06:17 PM (2XMpf)

151 137-LOL Although I would be proud to be your mom-you are from Fort Worth (my hometown) and you are an 'ette, so you are pretty awesome! {{{{Chemjeff}}}-I had to tell you my daughter has decided to major in bio-chemical engineering. She's taken chemistry and biology her first year, aced it, and is completely swept up by organic. Thank you for all the prayers over the years-I am very grateful!

Posted by: Moki at June 30, 2015 06:17 PM (x303I)

152 Moki, it can't hurt; you have to give up ALL gluten, though - there's no such thing as "gluten lite". If that's what's wrong with your system, you'll be able to tell pretty quickly.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 30, 2015 06:17 PM (KpAcJ)

153 Shouldn't it be time to just retire (no pun intended) the whole concept of public pensions (and by extension, Social Security)?

What would be so bad about instead of the gov't taking X dollars out of your paycheck for retirement, those X dollars are instead placed in a 401K, IRA, Money Market, or heck, even regular old saving account that you can't touch until age 65 or so?

People already vested in the pensions can be grandfathered in to their existing plans but workers starting after a certain date would get the new system.

I guess the bad thing would be it would cut out the government/union middlemen.

Public pensions have only given the gov't a slush fund with which to fund other projects and now that the pension payment are coming due and there's no money left, the debt is now going to be everyone's problem.

Ugh.

Posted by: Iasonas at June 30, 2015 06:18 PM (DU875)

154 Two Argentine airline pilots fired after letting a Playboy model play in their cockpit. http://kfor.com/2015/06/29/pilots-fired-for-letting-playboy-model-fly-plane/ Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 11:14 PM (kdHdm) No doubt the pilots were hoping for a quid pro quo, IYKWIMAITTYD.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 06:18 PM (lojDy)

155 You want glutens?

Posted by: Kim Kardashian at June 30, 2015 06:19 PM (yYOXd)

156 What part of Fort Worth, Moki? We live near downtown.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 30, 2015 06:20 PM (KpAcJ)

157 "gluten is a protein in wheat, basically" What do they do? Don't eat bread, pasta, etc.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 06:20 PM (L3p2N)

158 What would be so bad about instead of the gov't taking X dollars out of your paycheck for retirement, those X dollars are instead placed in a 401K, IRA, Money Market, or heck, even regular old saving account that you can't touch until age 65 or so? Because you can't be trusted to do the right thing with your money, like give it to illegal immigrants or to Gaia. Besides, without your money, what happens to my phoney-baloney job?

Posted by: Your Neighborhood Bureaucrat at June 30, 2015 06:20 PM (rJUlF)

159 I missed the whole post on the F-35.  But then again I have moved from a fan of the plane to being highly skeptical it will do anything worthwhile.

If the military can accept the plane will NOT be the Swiss Army Knife of planes it could still be decent.  Ditch the delusion it will replace the A-10 in the CAS role and kick the F-35B back to design stage to work its issues out.  Or just admit defeat the B is a dog and see if another plane can be built around the F-402 Pegasus engine of the Harrier.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 06:21 PM (kdHdm)

160 Oh! I'm sure it hasn't been mentioned, but AtC and I's new podcast is up. Link in nic.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2015 06:21 PM (GEICT)

161 You want glutens? Posted by: Kim Kardashian at June 30, 2015 11:19 PM (yYOXd) Nope. Don't know where they've been.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at June 30, 2015 06:21 PM (rJUlF)

162 161 Woot! Been a while since I've been able to listen. Downloading now.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at June 30, 2015 06:22 PM (rJUlF)

163 >>>I remember him being on some talking head show prior to the Gulf War in 1991, badmouthing the Abrams M1-A1. Expecting a big failure in battle, from all the sand fouling the turbines, etc.
And then afterward, not even an..."oops, I was wrong"

Those guys know it all, ya know?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 30, 2015 11:17 PM (+1T7c)<<<



I hate assholes like that.

Posted by: Paul Ehrlich at June 30, 2015 06:22 PM (21zCy)

164 157- I grew up in Southwest Fort Worth, and graduated from Trinity Valley, lo these many years. I really miss it. Hubby retires in a few years, and I am itching to move back there.

Posted by: Moki at June 30, 2015 06:23 PM (x303I)

165 @115 The Honduran supreme court had the constitutional power to use the military to enforce their decision. Zelaya had ignored their earlier ruling and decided to hold a national referendum on his staying in office past the limit. He had his buddy Chavez print up ballots and, while they were being held at a military base (becuse the Honduran supreme court had ruled the referendum illegal) Zelaya and his junta just broke in and took them. This finally led the honduran supreme court to remove him (by a choice he was given) with the help of the military. ------------------------ Again, there is nothing in the Honduran constitution that allows for the removal of the sitting president. What you're describing is pretty much the same as the US Supreme Court declaring that the sitting US President has violated his oath of office. It doesn't matter one bit unless the full-on Impeachment takes place.

Posted by: junior at June 30, 2015 06:24 PM (s1zlc)

166 130 HOOOORDE I got nothing. But I do continue to exist. So I got that going for me. Which is nice. Posted by: DC in River City, temporary bachelor at June 30, 2015 11:10 PM (e+1S5) --- DC, are you still a temporary bachelor? I thought Cougar and Princess were back.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 30, 2015 06:24 PM (jR7Wy)

167 That was a Roman, right? Gluteus Maximus?

Posted by: Brucie Caitlyn at June 30, 2015 06:24 PM (F2IAQ)

168 I hate assholes like that. Posted by: Paul Ehrlich at June 30, 2015 11:22 PM (21zCy) zing!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 06:24 PM (lojDy)

169 @155 - once again it's "it's not what you do it's the way that you film it". I"d take a hot Greek chick with a competent copilot over a faulty Airbus computer any time.

Posted by: JEM (sometimes The Devoceleraptor) at June 30, 2015 06:25 PM (o+SC1)

170 Moki!!!!!  Sounds like your daughter is doing terrific!!! that is awesome.  How ya been? 

Posted by: chemjeff at June 30, 2015 06:25 PM (2XMpf)

171 I've been working on my glutens. Suckers are hard as a rock.

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 30, 2015 06:25 PM (oZr5y)

172 badmouthing the Abrams M1-A1. Expecting a big failure in battle, from all the sand fouling the turbines, etc. -------- Yeah, someone told us the targeting system would be ineffective too.

Posted by: Iraqi Tankperson at June 30, 2015 06:25 PM (NUqwG)

173 Good evening boys and girls. Vacation proceeds apace. The potato cannon was fired tonight with a very satisfying boom and a splash of high velocity tuber on the rock face above our cabin. New neighbors were duly impressed. The muzzle flash is pretty cool in the dark. How's everybody doing?

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 30, 2015 06:25 PM (mvenn)

174 That WoW guild Then/Now pic was too familiar. Will miss that merry band of deviants.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 30, 2015 06:25 PM (0NdlF)

175 Reading ace's takedown of the F-35 earlier, and the F-15/F-16 air superiority arguments, it reminded me of early Vietnam when the F4s were deployed without cannons. Cannons are not the primary mode of air-to-air combat, just as dogfighting is not, but it's foolish to dispatch with those capabilities completely.
Posted by: Conservative Crank

The training given to pilots did not prepare them for aggressive combat maneuver prior to Viet Nam.  They were all expected to use missiles to shoot down their opponents.  The early Sparrow (AIM-7) was remarkably unreliable; its kill rate was terrible. The early Sidewinder AIM-9 was good, but still had problems with limited aspect ratio  (you had to line it up to get a good tone -lockon), and if you were too close, you couldn't use it because it had to fly a couple of seconds to arm.
The F-4 had plenty of power, but at low altitude, the Migs could out turn and outrun the F-4.  If the battle got to higher altitudes, the Migs would turn and run because the F-4 then had the advantage.  It wasn't so much dogfighting by the Migs, as they were directed by ground radar to a favorable intercept positions to shoot from behind and run away, especially on F-105's, that were usually bomb heavy on the way in.  The F-105 had four 20 mm cannons, but was too big and couldn't turn with the Mig (17, 19 and 21).  So the 20 mm guns were useless for them.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 30, 2015 06:26 PM (+1T7c)

176 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 11:20 PM (L3p2N)

well I don't know, actually.  I was just reading on wikipedia, and apparently some people have a sensitivity to it in the small intestine.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 30, 2015 06:27 PM (2XMpf)

177 "Cannons are not the primary mode of air-to-air combat, just as dogfighting is not, but it's foolish to dispatch with those capabilities completely." I perused the F-35 thread from earlier. It's extremely unlikely that two "fighter" aircraft come within visual range today while in an engagement. You engage at range, move out of range, then possibly re-engage if the missile(s) did not impact. Missiles exhausted, short of a suicide mission, you dis-engage and fight another time.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 06:27 PM (L3p2N)

178 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2015 06:27 PM (UVfht)

179 I have one word for Greece....Kickstarter.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at June 30, 2015 06:27 PM (rJUlF)

180 The F-15 was built the way it was in response to the threat of the MiG-25 Foxbat.  Especially after that MiG-25 did a Mach 3 recon flight over Israel.  So the USAF and MDD pulled out all the stops to build the Ferrari of fighters.  Then Belenko defected with a Foxbat to Japan and well everyone in the West found out the -25 was not as scary as it was reported.  But by then the Eagle was in service and costing plenty of dollars.

Which meant to help replace all the aging F-100s, and F-105s a new cheap plane was also needed which coincided with a clarion call for a return to a simple day fighter.  Hence the Light Weight Fighter competition that saw the GD YF-16 square off against the Northrop YF-17.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 06:27 PM (kdHdm)

181 161 Oh! I'm sure it hasn't been mentioned, but AtC and I's new podcast is up. Link in nic. Thanks for fielding me question! AtC had much to swears about.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 30, 2015 06:28 PM (0NdlF)

182 A cow-orker of ours is in Greece visiting his parents. He tells us that they were able to anticipate and beat the run on the ATM's but that the cash shortages are real, widespread and being felt by lots of folks.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 30, 2015 06:29 PM (mvenn)

183 I'm returning to the Mitten Kingdom for a few days. I see that Dearborn is having "Salute to America Fireworks". The ululations and explosions will rock the 4th!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 30, 2015 06:29 PM (jR7Wy)

184 171-survivin in NoVa. I have about had enough-hence the ulcer- but overall we are doing okay. I am just so proud of her I could cry. A few years ago, I didn't think she would be able to do it. But she is charging forward, and already has an internship with an archaeology professor to experiment with some chemical dating techniques. She's learning that there are so many fields that depend on chemistry (heh) and doors are just opening left and right for the kids that put some effort into it. How are you doin, sugar? I hope you are well and hale!

Posted by: Moki at June 30, 2015 06:30 PM (x303I)

185 Posted by: junior at June 30, 2015 11:24 PM (s1zlc) I believe that was answered by: Posted by: The Bananna and Fruit Hat at June 30, 2015 11:10 PM (7YlUk) The honduran constitution was very rigid about any attempt to breach the presidential term limits or to try to have it changed. Article 239, honduran constitution (google translate, so ...) Article 239. The citizen who has held the title of Executive Power may not be President or Designee. Whoever violates this provision or proposes its reform, as well as those who support directly or indirectly, immediately cease in the performance of their respective offices, and be disqualified for ten years for the exercise of any public function. That's pretty clear ... even in google translation. "immediately cease". So the honduran supreme court didn't remove zelaya from anything. He removed himself.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 30, 2015 06:30 PM (MYSVz)

186 Howdy Blanco, how have you been? Don't see you around here much these days.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 30, 2015 06:30 PM (mvenn)

187 Good evening boys and girls. Vacation proceeds apace. The potato cannon was fired tonight with a very satisfying boom and a splash of high velocity tuber on the rock face above our cabin. New neighbors were duly impressed. The muzzle flash is pretty cool in the dark. How's everybody doing? Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 30, 2015 11:25 PM (mvenn) What does the potato cannon use for propellant? Acetylene derived from calcium carbide and water makes a nice loud bang and impressive flash in the right sort of cannon tube.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 06:30 PM (lojDy)

188 >>>DC, are you still a temporary bachelor? I thought Cougar and Princess were back. They are! I thought I fixed it. This 1990s vintage website has been fucking with me lately.

Posted by: DC in River City[/i][/b][/s] at June 30, 2015 06:30 PM (e+1S5)

189 Ricardo a BVR environment assumes all IFF works perfectly and thus the Bandits are positively identified.  Then one can be Weapons Free with -120s and -9s.  But no positive ID then you must close to visual range to confirm bandits and thus you just lost your -120s.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 06:30 PM (kdHdm)

190 Hence the Light Weight Fighter competition that saw the GD YF-16 square off against the Northrop YF-17. Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 11:27 PM (kdHdm) ------- And with today's development time line we would now be celebrating the 15th anniversary of F-16 operations!

Posted by: RioBravo at June 30, 2015 06:30 PM (NUqwG)

191 "Or just admit defeat the B is a dog and see if another plane can be built around the F-402 Pegasus engine of the Harrier." The F-402 was a Salad Slicer in terms of engines today. Vectored vs. directed. It was good for 16-18k with no afterburn. The increase in range and payload demanded of the F-35 make the Pegasus blush.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 06:31 PM (L3p2N)

192 183 A cow-orker of ours is in Greece visiting his parents. -------- The poor cow-workers always get the bum steer.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 30, 2015 06:31 PM (oZr5y)

193 Howdy, y'all!

Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2015 06:32 PM (EzgxV)

194 193- i really did laugh out loud at that. My dog is pissed that I woke him up.

Posted by: Moki at June 30, 2015 06:33 PM (x303I)

195 People say Gluten when they mean Gliadin (sort of - there are exceptions). Gliadin is a component of the gluten found in wheat, barley, rye, spelt, triticale, and kamut (and any other, rarer members or the tritacalensis family of grains).

If you have one of the disorders that react to this chemical, you may be able to find out by not eating any for long enough (a month to two months), but you have to be completely perfect about it, no mistakes - until it's time to test at the end of that period - at that point, you pretty much know.

The reason people "try the diet" is because the tests for gluten intolerance are notoriously bad (false positives and negatives). The gold standard test is a camera in your small intestine, but that detects Celiac Disease and not an allergy per se, and doesn't work well if you're on "the diet."

If you have the condition and it's not treated, you'll probably die of intestinal cancer in your 50s or 60s, or a stroke or heart attack, or something secondary like that.

It's rare, but not vanishingly rare like they used to think.

It's nothing you can do casually, you have to be paranoid about food. Especially during testing, don't trust anyone else to prep your food. Have your own cooking implements and surfaces. That includes restaurants that claim to serve GF food (WTF Papa Murphys, you idiots).

It sucks every day, but if you need it it can save your life.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/b][/u][/s][/i] at June 30, 2015 06:33 PM (bLnSU)

196 G'evening, Cooth!

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 30, 2015 06:33 PM (0NdlF)

197 "Ricardo a BVR environment assumes all IFF works perfectly and thus the Bandits are positively identified. Then one can be Weapons Free with -120s and -9s. But no positive ID then you must close to visual range to confirm bandits and thus you just lost your -120s." That's been the F-35 from the start. Electronic/situation awareness above any capability in the world. Visual range is not a huge deal. You know IFF well before visual range. In conjunction with stealthy apps you are hiding yourself and know what the "enemy" is doing.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 06:34 PM (L3p2N)

198 The poor cow-workers always get the bum steer.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)


You're edging into Muldoon pun territory there, buster. 

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 30, 2015 06:34 PM (+1T7c)

199 What does the potato cannon use for propellant? Acetylene derived from calcium carbide and water makes a nice loud bang and impressive flash in the right sort of cannon tube. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 11:30 PM (lojDy) **** I use a two foot long section of 4" PVC pipe with a clean-out plug on the back end. This is tapered down to a 2" PVC barrel that is about 5 feet long. The potato is cored into the muzzle end and ramrodded down to the back end of the barrel (breach). I spray about 5-7 seconds of AquaNet hairspray, screw in the clean-out plug and spark it manually with a Coleman lantern flint mounted through a hole in the side of the combustion chamer. BOOM goes the Idaho.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 30, 2015 06:35 PM (mvenn)

200 154 What would be so bad about instead of the gov't taking X dollars out of your paycheck for retirement, those X dollars are instead placed in a 401K, IRA, Money Market, or heck, even regular old saving account that you can't touch until age 65 or Posted by: Iasonas at June 30, 2015 11:18 PM (DU875) Wtf?! No. Just no. For starters, why the fuck should the government tell me how & when I can have MY money? And after all the bullshit with my Mom's estate & then losing MORE than employer match when I had to cash in my 401k so I can eat, I won't have retirement accounts either. "Free" money my ass. I'd have been better off saving that shit in a mattress.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 06:35 PM (AXT3t)

201 My glutes aren't firing up like they should.

Posted by: Tiger Woods at June 30, 2015 06:35 PM (JVgzo)

202 Howdy Blanco, how have you been? Don't see you around here much these days.

Doin' OK.  Been busy with projects.  Or mindless web games, one of the two. 

Saw your potato cannon brag while scrolling down.  Cool.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2015 06:36 PM (UVfht)

203 The poor cow-workers always get the bum steer. **** Now that's just udderly ridiculous.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 30, 2015 06:37 PM (mvenn)

204 two "fighter" aircraft come within visual range today while in an engagement. You engage at range, move out of range, then possibly re-engage if the missile(s) did not impact. Missiles exhausted, short of a suicide mission, you dis-engage and fight another time. They've been saying that for 50 years.I still don't believe it. I can easily conceive of a situation where a fighter is winchester on missiles and bogeys are still in the neighborhood. Be real nice to have bang stick right about then, no?

Posted by: Weirddave at June 30, 2015 06:37 PM (7TK5d)

205 You guys going gluten free, are you also as a side effect going low-carb? If so, how do you know if the improvement is actually from eliminating gluten or from regulating your blood sugar levels / insulin?

Posted by: @votermom at June 30, 2015 06:39 PM (OFsYt)

206 BOOM goes the Idaho. Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 30, 2015 11:35 PM (mvenn) --- So cool, Muldoon! Is that from one of Gurstelle's backyard ballistics books?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 30, 2015 06:39 PM (jR7Wy)

207 Posted by: Tiger Woods **** Hey Tiger, do you still have the golf clap?

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 30, 2015 06:39 PM (mvenn)

208 Again, there is nothing in the Honduran constitution that allows for the removal of the sitting president. What you're describing is pretty much the same as the US Supreme Court declaring that the sitting US President has violated his oath of office. It doesn't matter one bit unless the full-on Impeachment takes place. Posted by: junior at June 30, 2015 11:24 PM (s1zlc) The Honduran constitution states that a President who tries to run for re-election, or advocate for being able to run for re-election, automatically ceases to be President. The Honduran supreme court just rules that that had been the case. http://tinyurl.com/q9f5sgu

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 30, 2015 06:40 PM (7YlUk)

209 Evening horde. So??? Butter or cold water on a thermite burn?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 30, 2015 06:40 PM (XAFOu)

210 The poor cow-workers always get the bum steer. **** Now that's just udderly ridiculous. Posted by: Muldoon **** Oh lord. Please don't milk the cow puns.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 06:40 PM (F0Cog)

211 Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 11:35 PM (AXT3t)

I, for one, would like to not have to pay any SS tax whatsoever, but I think my idea would be a good compromise between what we have now and the liberals who do actually believe we cannot be trusted with our own money.

I'm 32 and have an IRA and contribute to it every year, despite the economy affecting my line of work acutely. I would like to contribute to it even more if I was making more money.

And seeing as SS will probably be gone by the time I can retire (if ever), I'm paying that money into a fund I might not benefit from. I'd rather have that money in a bank where I know where it is.

Liberal public workers (BIRM) who actually think the gov't takes a fiduciary duty over their pension money are gullible and I'd like to sell them a bridge.

Posted by: Iasonas at June 30, 2015 06:41 PM (DU875)

212 Ricardo why does a VSTOL aircraft need to be supersonic?  The RAF/RN kept wanting to add supersonic to the basic Harrier that resulted in the paper design S-6 which required all four nozzles of a modified Pegasus to be hot.  This engine would have pumped out 34,500lbs of thrust.  But it would have also been an almost new airframe design and cost a lot more.  So the idea was abandoned by 1974.

Then the US Navy got with Rockwell to develop an American successor to the AV-8A called the YFV-12.  Which turned out to be such a monumental dog, that after six years of trying to make it work it was cancelled in 1980.  One YFV-12 still exists as a museum piece.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 06:41 PM (kdHdm)

213 Be real nice to have bang stick right about then, no?
Posted by: Weirddave

Really?  Your going to risk a 50 to  100 million dollar fighter to close to within 1000 meters to try and get a gun kill?  And while you're at it, the target's wingman gets up behind you and shoots you with his gun?

If you're bingo on AAM's, they're trained to leave the combat area.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at June 30, 2015 06:41 PM (+1T7c)

214 So cool, Muldoon! Is that from one of Gurstelle's backyard ballistics books? **** I copied my B-I-L's design with a little help from the internet, added a couple of tweaks (e.g. I beveled the outside edge of the muzzle end so it acts as a cutting edge when loading the spud, makes a nice core that fits air tight in the breach.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 30, 2015 06:42 PM (mvenn)

215 Oh lord. Please don't milk the cow puns. Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 11:40 PM (F0Cog) I'll have to chew on that request for a bit.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at June 30, 2015 06:42 PM (rJUlF)

216 Cud you all just stop with the bovine puns please?

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 30, 2015 06:43 PM (mvenn)

217 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 11:34 PM (L3p2N) The problem is that in a high EW environment... or even in a really BUSY environment (Desert Storm)... IFF becomes unreliable... Hell... we had so much active radar going in Desert Storm that our normal 256 nm range radar (1/2 million watts of radiated energy) was lucky to paint aircraft at 75 miles... I had to put attenuators between the receive element of the Antenna, and the Receiver because of all the radiated energy being shoved straight down the Wave guide.

Posted by: BB Wolf, ret USN Electronic Tech at June 30, 2015 06:43 PM (qh617)

218 Good night all. I hope you all sleep well, and wake refreshed and blessed tomorrow

Posted by: Moki at June 30, 2015 06:43 PM (x303I)

219 ok gotta get up early again tomorrow, so good night all
Moki hope everything fares well with you and your daughter

Posted by: chemjeff at June 30, 2015 06:44 PM (2XMpf)

220 I use a two foot long section of 4" PVC pipe with a clean-out plug on the back end. This is tapered down to a 2" PVC barrel that is about 5 feet long. The potato is cored into the muzzle end and ramrodded down to the back end of the barrel (breach). I spray about 5-7 seconds of AquaNet hairspray, screw in the clean-out plug and spark it manually with a Coleman lantern flint mounted through a hole in the side of the combustion chamer. BOOM goes the Idaho. Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 30, 2015 11:35 PM (mvenn) You know, you just might want to wrap the chamber and barrel of that thing with a layer of parachute cord, or other small nylon rope, and follow up with a wrap of duct tape to keep the rope in place. Because if an especially-strong charge went off, that 4" PVC might split, and send sharp fragments flying. Better to make the breech plug the weak point, and never place yourself directly behind it when firing.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 06:44 PM (lojDy)

221 217 Cud you all just stop with the bovine puns please? Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 30, 2015 11:43 PM (mvenn) How can I refuse that moo-ving request?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at June 30, 2015 06:44 PM (rJUlF)

222 Cud you all just stop with the bovine puns please? Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man **** Makes me want to hoof it out of here.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 06:45 PM (F0Cog)

223 >>>If so, how do you know if the improvement is actually from eliminating gluten or from regulating your blood sugar levels / insulin? Can't it be both? I think it's more likely to be that eliminating starches that fuck up your blood sugar makes you feel better. Hell, it could be a placebo effect. Doesn't matter. Bottom line is that of it's stupid but it works, it's not stupid.

Posted by: DC in River City[/i][/b][/s] at June 30, 2015 06:45 PM (e+1S5)

224 @votermom, you can stuff yourself with rice and corn as a control.

Technicall grains in general have gluten, but only tritacalensis (someday I'll look up the spelling of that) grains have Gliadin.

Basically you're avoiding exactly one thing that has a number of sources, the only ones you're likely to run into are wheat, barley, rye, spelt, kamut, and triticale (in rough order of commonality).

Yes that means 98% of beers are off-limits. Also anything malted (malted barley).

Processed foods can have a lot of contaminated madness in the form of starches that they don't specify the source. Maltodextrin from the US and Canada comes from corn, from Mexico it might be wheat, etc.

Pharmaceuticals are a nightmare because Pharmacos almost *never* accurately list the source of starches in their meds. Half the time you can't even verify it on the phone. None of them is universally good but Sun Pharma is terrible.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/b][/u][/s][/i] at June 30, 2015 06:45 PM (bLnSU)

225 I visited Greece in '92 (Corfu). Great food, beautiful beaches, pretty half nekid Euro chicks, and cheap booze. I had fun. Thats all I got.

Posted by: Puddleglum@work at June 30, 2015 06:45 PM (syGA0)

226 Cud you all just stop with the bovine puns please?

Don't have a cow, man.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2015 06:45 PM (UVfht)

227 212 Posted by: Iasonas at June 30, 2015 11:41 PM (DU875) If you want your money in a bank put it there. But having uncle sugar mandate savings and when & how I get MY money back is a non starter. Why wound you even consider giving what is an already berserk fed that kind of control over your life.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 06:46 PM (Vm8WO)

228 Makes me want to hoof it out of here. Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 11:45 PM (F0Cog) I'm getting out of here before someone decides they have a beef with me. G'nite, Horde.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread (Face For Radio, Voice For Print) at June 30, 2015 06:46 PM (rJUlF)

229 BB Wolf also remember the USAF does not want the Growler version of the F-18 near their F-35s.  Apparently when the ALE-99 system goes into snow everything mode, the F-35 onboard EW capabilities go down the tubes.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 06:46 PM (kdHdm)

230 Puns. On an ONT. Dear L*rd This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at June 30, 2015 06:46 PM (XAFOu)

231 I could ruminate all day and not come up with any good cow jokes.

Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2015 06:46 PM (JVgzo)

232 I still think it's a shame that the F-20 Tigershark never saw any hot hot procurement action. There's a book I saw many years ago on clearance about failed aircraft (civilian and military) that I'm still kicking myself for not buying. In the back, there was a small section on *good* aircraft that failed and the F-20 was included.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik in a lace wig at June 30, 2015 06:47 PM (EHU9F)

233 "They've been saying that for 50 years.I still don't believe it. I can easily conceive of a situation where a fighter is winchester on missiles and bogeys are still in the neighborhood. Be real nice to have bang stick right about then, no? " No. Modern AAMs are more maneuverable than modern aircraft. Fifty years ago (Vietnam) an AIM-7 had a range of 10-15 miles and had to be guided into the target the entire way from the pilot airplane's radar. Fifty years is a long time and electronics/avionics have progressed a long way since then. An F-35 pilot swings his head, fires an AIM-120, off it goes, and, it tracks its own way to the target.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 06:47 PM (L3p2N)

234 Makes me want to hoof it out of here. Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 11:45 PM (F0Cog) Best do it beefore the rush.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at June 30, 2015 06:47 PM (0NdlF)

235 that 4" PVC might split, and send sharp fragments flying. Better to make the breech plug the weak point, and never place yourself directly behind it when firing. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 11:44 PM (lojDy) **** Always a worry. It is reinforced with duct tape and the port for the flint has a little air leak that allows a fizzle to occur. I always keep a clear lane in front and behind.

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 30, 2015 06:47 PM (mvenn)

236 196 Gliadin is a component of the gluten found in wheat, barley, rye, spelt, triticale, and kamut (and any other, rarer members or the tritacalensis family of grains). Triticale is a Russian inwention.

Posted by: Pavel Chekov at June 30, 2015 06:47 PM (qyomX)

237 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 30, 2015 11:45 PM (bLnSU) -- Thanks merovign

Posted by: @votermom at June 30, 2015 06:47 PM (FJQHs)

238 Omission Brewery makes gluten free beer and I've bought it on occasion because even though I'm not gluten free, it's not half-bad beer.

I think there's a couple other gluten free beers that can be easily found.

I like beer too much to ever go gluten free.

Posted by: Iasonas at June 30, 2015 06:48 PM (DU875)

239 Merovign did you get the blood test for gluten intolerance?

Posted by: @votermom at June 30, 2015 06:48 PM (qnFe9)

240 Cow jokes are udderly unfunny.

Posted by: Tiger at June 30, 2015 06:48 PM (JVgzo)

241 Well, you know that 'pun' spelled backwards is 'nup'. And I think we can safely say that a nup is a nup. I'm out. Stay safe y'all. Endeavor to persevere!

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at June 30, 2015 06:49 PM (mvenn)

242 http://tinyurl.com/q9f5sgu Posted by: The Political Hat at June 30, 2015 11:40 PM (7YlUk) That finding was lawful sure, but did they have the power to order the army in to remove the President? Immediately following the removal, multiple freedoms were shut down. Freedom of Expression, Freedom of Movement, personal liberty, habeus corpus and association.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2015 06:49 PM (GEICT)

243 " I still think it's a shame that the F-20 Tigershark never saw any hot hot procurement action" Heh. Had a relative deeply involved in it. He has stories about South Korea.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 06:50 PM (L3p2N)

244 Look at the time! Gotta sleep. Night all.

Posted by: @votermom at June 30, 2015 06:50 PM (qnFe9)

245 Posted by: BB Wolf, ret USN Electronic Tech at June 30, 2015 11:43 PM (qh617) SPS-49

Posted by: Jeff Weimer, Ret FCCS(SW/AW) at June 30, 2015 06:50 PM (Edob3)

246 Best do it beefore the rush. Posted by: ConservativeMonster **** Stampede?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 06:51 PM (F0Cog)

247 How many lives do a cow have? Cats have 9'

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 30, 2015 06:51 PM (3mTLw)

248 Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 11:46 PM (Vm8WO)

The gov't is already doing that via Social Security (and pensions if you're a public worker).

I'm a combination of self-employed and W-2. So when I'm earning W-2, money out of my paycheck is already going to Uncle Sam and I have to also write my own check to him every so often for my self-employment tax.

Yes, every dime of that I would rather have at my disposal to do with as I see fit. But if the only choice was between giving it to the gov't or having to put it in my own IRA, I would choose my own IRA any day of the week.

Posted by: Iasonas at June 30, 2015 06:52 PM (DU875)

249 The bitterness over the repeated cow puns really taurus apart.

Posted by: denouncing myself for contributing at June 30, 2015 06:52 PM (21zCy)

250 Sorta pissed today. Mrs. Old Blue doesn't watch much news (since I've retired she likes watching Outnumbered on Fox. Says the women there are really smart and she absolutely loves Harris Faulkner) was telling me today that she's worried about the Fourth of July celebration because of the ISIS pukes.

Talk about impotent rage. I can't kill the fuckers because I don't know which fuckers to kill. But my wife is worried, and I don't know what to do to fix it to ease her mind.
If it would have been me, I would have turned everything from Pakistan to Syria into a glowing, radioactive parking lot years ago. And I wouldn't have lost any sleep over it.

Posted by: Old Blue[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2015 06:52 PM (9iR5/)

251 It's interesting that Obama and the MSM did not trot out their usual mantra of gun control this time as they did with the Colorado movie theater shooter, Sandy Hook Elementary CT massacre, and Gabby Gifford's shooting in AZ. Each of those incidents had an equally high or higher casualty rate than the one in Charleston, yet each time Dear Leader immediately grabbed a microphone to push "common sense gun control."

Yet with Charleston the media instantaneously swarmed around the flag and not the usual culprit, guns.

Just seems a bit, I don't know, inconsistent.

And that gentlemen's chair is probably not available at Laz-E-Boy but it should be.


Posted by: fly gal at June 30, 2015 10:36 PM (pDXil)

 

 

I actually think that reason is Obama's fault.  His opening remarks about the shooting he started talking about "now we will mourn but soon we're going to have to have a conversation about gun control."  And almost all of his remarks were about gun control and not their murder.

 

So before the bodies are cold dumbass Obama is trying to tie them to strings to be his puppets for gun control again.  And I think that soured a lot of people.  The media probably caught that that was not going to be well received. 

 

And of course they couldn't try and gin up blaming the Republicans either because they were all connecting with the murders through Christianity.  Stupid faith in God damaging the media's efforts to use death's for their agenda.

 

So they had to go after the flag because they needed something else to use that they could grab the "us vs. them" garbage.

Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2015 06:53 PM (zt+N6)

252 I'm enjoying Greece's meltdown too. It's gratifying to finally be able to see the 'effect' side of the equation.


Too bad most of current Western Civilization looks like we're shaping up to be 'cautionary examples' for future societies to study.




Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 30, 2015 06:53 PM (AC0lD)

253 The F-20 never stood a chance once the USAF decided not to buy any.  After that kiss of death, no foreign power wanted to buy it.

Northrop has always had iffy luck when it comes to military contracts.  Starting with the YB-49 and the orders to destroy the planes.  The F-5/T-38 became a big seller because the USAF bought it first and then helped sell it overseas.  F-20 was another in house idea, and after $1 billion and no contracts Northrop gave up. 

The YF-17 lost the USAF LWF.  But Northrop was not going to give up since  the Navy was looking to replace the A-7 and remaining F-4s.  They partnered with MDD to produce the F-18.  MDD helped snagged the contract but also saddled the plane with issues.  And then MDD stabbed Northrop in the back by selling F-18s to customers that Northrop was trying to sell the F-18L version to.  So Northrop ended up as a sub-contractor on a plane it originally designed.

And then there are the B-2 Spirits.  Which is a great plane.  But when production keeps getting cut back, the R+D costs gets funneled into fewer planes so price kept rising.  And suddenly too expensive to afford.  And now the USAF is looking for a new manned bomber design.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 06:53 PM (kdHdm)

254 223 Makes me want to hoof it out of here. Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 11:45 PM Wait wait wait. So you also have hooves????? what kind of crazy genetic engineering have you been through?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 06:54 PM (Vm8WO)

255 That finding was lawful sure, but did they have the power to order the army in to remove the President? Immediately following the removal, multiple freedoms were shut down. Freedom of Expression, Freedom of Movement, personal liberty, habeus corpus and association. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2015 11:49 PM (GEICT) Aye, there's the rub. When you have a powerful group attempting to seize power in a non-Constitutional coup, there may be no Constitutionally pure way of stopping them before their evil plot succeeds. One of those hierarchy of boxes things.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 06:54 PM (lojDy)

256 Good nite Morons Be well

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, at June 30, 2015 06:54 PM (3mTLw)

257 @Votermom, no, most of the tests have false negative rates so high it's a wild guess either way.

None of my doctors have ever had a ******* clue, I got a referral once after nagging for months, but they basically said "since you're already off gluten, we can't do the camera test, and the blood tests are next to useless, sayonara."

I have had very clear reactions to accidental "glutenings," that's why I almost never go to restaurants, even those catering to the condition.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/b][/u][/s][/i] at June 30, 2015 06:55 PM (bLnSU)

258 It's shit like this that has me cheering on SMOD...or Yellowstone...or whatevers: @jrsalzman do you know the difference between you and me? I have both my arms and you don't. 'LoveWins': Iraq War Vet Amputee Mocked on Twitter, Catholic Priest Spat Upon... http://preview.tinyurl.com/oke897f

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 06:55 PM (kmtse)

259 That finding was lawful sure, but did they have the power to order the army in to remove the President? Immediately following the removal, multiple freedoms were shut down. Freedom of Expression, Freedom of Movement, personal liberty, habeus corpus and association. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2015 11:49 PM (GEICT) Well, they didn't order the removal the President, but the removal of a former President who didn't legally occupy the office. The decision was approved of by the Honduras Congress, including the now former President's own party, with all but three agreeing. The election went on the same as it was, with the same candidates.

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 30, 2015 06:55 PM (7YlUk)

260 @164 Hey Pal!! I got your population bomb right here!!

Posted by: Norman Borlaug's Grain Factory at June 30, 2015 06:57 PM (RfwXt)

261 "The problem is that in a high EW environment... or even in a really BUSY environment (Desert Storm)... IFF becomes unreliable... " It's not the same as 25 year ago, BB.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 06:57 PM (L3p2N)

262 That finding was lawful sure, but did they have the power to order the army in to remove the President? Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2015 11:49 PM (GEICT) Honduran constitution; A really shitty google translation ... but I think the point is still kind of clear: ARTICLE 313. The courts require the assistance of the security forces to carry out its resolutions; if they refused or was not any available, they require of citizens. I remember having seen coherent translations back when this was all going on. ... So much for AI taking over everything (google's retarded AI, at least).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 30, 2015 06:58 PM (MYSVz)

263 The bitch that tweeted that goes by @startstopour.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 06:58 PM (kmtse)

264 Wait wait wait. So you also have hooves????? what kind of crazy genetic engineering have you been through? Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy Figure of speech. I'm really just your run of the mill mer-whale.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 06:58 PM (F0Cog)

265 Psych! That's ski jump. Lifts are the dangling chairs attached to cables.

Posted by: bour3 at June 30, 2015 06:58 PM (5x3+2)

266 266 Psych! That's ski jump. Lifts are the dangling chairs attached to cables.
Posted by: bour3 at June 30, 2015 11:58 PM (5x3+2)


Ah yes - fixed now.

Posted by: Maetenloch at June 30, 2015 07:00 PM (pAlYe)

267 Really? Your going to risk a 50 to 100 million dollar fighter to close to within 1000 meters to try and get a gun kill? And while you're at it, the target's wingman gets up behind you and shoots you with his gun? If you're bingo on AAM's, they're trained to leave the combat area. What you are trained to do, what is ideal to do, is often subordinate to what you are able to do. Yours was exactly the thinking going into Vietnam. Didn't work out so hot. You can say technology is better and you'd be right, but people and the fog of war aren't. Best to be prepared for every eventuality.

Posted by: Weirddave at June 30, 2015 07:00 PM (WvS3w)

268 >>>Immediately following the removal, multiple freedoms were shut down. Freedom of Expression, Freedom of Movement, personal liberty, habeus corpus and association. Revolutions tend to be like that. Even justified ones. A new government is shaky and subject to counter-revolutions. It's ugly, but that's the way it works. We did it here. And not just for a few months. With that, I'm out. Tell alex I'll listen to her podcast tomorrow or Thursday.

Posted by: DC in River City[/i][/b][/s] at June 30, 2015 07:01 PM (e+1S5)

269 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 11:57 PM (L3p2N) radiated power is still radiated power... Broad band brute force jamming is pretty darn simple.....

Posted by: BB Wolf, ret USN Electronic Tech at June 30, 2015 07:01 PM (qh617)

270 There were multiple reasons the AIM-7 Sparrow performed so poorly in Vietnam.

The Sparrows were constantly being loaded and unloaded in field conditions.  This had an impact on reliability.  Another issue with the Sparrow is the firing plane must paint the target with its radar, thus denying the fighter any real ability to evade if he wants to score a hit.  Meanwhile range is closing between planes.  Semi Active Homing Radar is what they called it.

Now the AMI-120 has its own radar, much like the AIM-54.  And they had plenty of issues of making that gizmo work in a Sparrow sized missile body.  So theoretically it is a fire and forget.  Assuming you have positive ID on Bandits from AWACS to splash them BVR and the other guy's EW can't spoof the -120.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 07:01 PM (kdHdm)

271 259 Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 11:55 PM (kmtse) Hey girlie, good to see you!!!! no more nonsense about bailing out of here, ok?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 07:02 PM (Vm8WO)

272 My great concern, for years, re potato cannons, is that PVC becomes shrapnel if it bursts. And while the minimum burst pressure is much higher, the maximum normal operating pressure for Schedule 80..., if that is what you are using, is around 200 psi. Schedule 40 is somewhat lower. Makes me nervous.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 30, 2015 07:02 PM (F2IAQ)

273 Tuesday Night ONT Compliance Pics https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/615927545964417024 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/615928645547360256 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/615929708161695744 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/615930734403035136 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/615931934150127617 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/615933507819274240

Posted by: kbdabear at June 30, 2015 07:02 PM (GrXXa)

274 The Honduras thing was totally legit. Obama didn't like it because the Honduran version of himself got legally removed from office. Right then and there Obama should have been impeached.

Posted by: eman at June 30, 2015 07:03 PM (MQEz6)

275 So do the riots in Greece go clockwise or counterclockwise?

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 07:03 PM (PY/7D)

276 The question of who is going to pay for "public servant" pensions is something we are going to have to grapple with here in Illinois.

Posted by: cm9000 at June 30, 2015 10:29 PM (8zCR+)


I'm negotiating a deal to sell Chicago to the chicoms. So far so good except they are balking about relocation expenses for teh Morons.


They'll come around.

Posted by: F-35 Dindunuffin's Mom at June 30, 2015 07:03 PM (Vyg9x)

277 " The F-20 never stood a chance once the USAF decided not to buy any. After that kiss of death, no foreign power wanted to buy it." The F-20 was always intended as an "export" airplane. Customers who had bought F-5s were seen as the target. One piping hot engine versus two smaller engines designed for T-38 trainers with the updated cockpit. It wound up competing for the same customers as the F-16 which was a generation newer and not that much more expensive. So.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 07:03 PM (L3p2N)

278 The bitch that tweeted that goes by @startstopour. Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 11:58 PM (kmtse) Another reason I'm glad to not be on twitter. Or facebook.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 30, 2015 07:03 PM (W5DcG)

279 I could ruminate all day and not come up with any good cow jokes. Keep chewing on it, one'll come to you.

Posted by: Weirddave at June 30, 2015 07:03 PM (WvS3w)

280 Wow, Jupiter and Venus are so close together tonight here on the Leftest Coast. And that's it for astronomy, back to you for the rest of the news.

Posted by: t-bird at June 30, 2015 07:04 PM (FcR7P)

281 Right then and there Obama should have been impeached. Posted by: eman at July 01, 2015 12:03 AM (MQEz6) Absolutely.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 30, 2015 07:04 PM (MYSVz)

282 It's not the same as 25 year ago, BB. Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 11:57 PM (L3p2N) IFF is. The only change has been Mode 5 - brought on by the EP-3 forcedown in China in 2001. Mode 4 is still out there, but it's not considered an automatic friendly anymore. Things have changed in the last 25 years, but not as much as you might think. Radar physics sure hasn't.

Posted by: Grabthar's Hammer at June 30, 2015 07:04 PM (Edob3)

283 Posted by: Weirddave at July 01, 2015 12:00 AM (WvS3w)
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IIRC, by the time of Viet Nam, dog fighting was considered to be passe because of all of the AAM's being developed. But because the Mig's were armed with cannon, close in fighting was not possible with the F4. I believe that's why the Top Gun training was developed.
A Mig could jump on your tail and shoot you down. You could jump on his tail, but if you're too close, your missiles were worthless.

Posted by: Old Blue[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2015 07:05 PM (9iR5/)

284 One should not be branded as a cow joker.

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 07:05 PM (PY/7D)

285 So do the riots in Greece go clockwise or counterclockwise? Real riots go both ways. Simultaneously.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 30, 2015 07:05 PM (W5DcG)

286 'night everyone.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at June 30, 2015 07:05 PM (jR7Wy)

287 Greek rioters take a two-hour lunch break.

Posted by: eman at June 30, 2015 07:07 PM (MQEz6)

288 Hello bebe. I lurk more nowadays...but after reading that tweet of that cunt, I think I might found a new hobby. I have a twitter account that I have never tweeted on before. That's about to change. Since I don't have anything to lose, it's time for me smile, use what the good Lord gave me as far as wit and a very nasty disposition is concerned, and have some fun with these 'LoveWins' assholes.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 07:08 PM (kmtse)

289 Off profoundly smelly sock.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 07:08 PM (Vyg9x)

290 Old Blue depends upon which community in the Navy you are talking about at that time.  The F-8 guys were proud aggressive knife fighters of classic dog fighting.  While the F-4 community was all about flipping switches and killing at a distance.

Then reality intruded in Vietnam.  F-4Bs toting 4 AIM-7 and 4 AIM-9 with no real ACM training  versus MiG-17s and MiG-19s with the odd MiG-21 to really make things exciting.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 07:08 PM (kdHdm)

291 259 It's shit like this that has me cheering on SMOD...or Yellowstone...or whatevers: @jrsalzman do you know the difference between you and me? I have both my arms and you don't. 'LoveWins': Iraq War Vet Amputee Mocked on Twitter, Catholic Priest Spat Upon... http://preview.tinyurl.com/oke897f Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 11:55 PM (kmtse) I'm kinda liking military junta, myself -- when the Social Justice Warriors meet the real thing.....

Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2015 07:09 PM (EzgxV)

292 Alright folks, I'm out. Hate to be a pest about it, but it's about the only way AtC and I can get the word out. Podcast link is in my nic. Go. Listen. Share. Night!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2015 07:09 PM (GEICT)

293 I'm not chipper when it comes to cow jokes.

Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2015 07:09 PM (JVgzo)

294 Cya BCochran, spoil the kidlets

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 07:10 PM (kdHdm)

295 t-bird, Yeah, I saw that earlier. Gorgeous sight here in CenTex.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 07:10 PM (kmtse)

296 *grins at cooth* So. Am. I.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 07:10 PM (kmtse)

297 Seems like it's been for-heifer since we've had a good pun thread..

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 07:10 PM (BVDFs)

298 By Grabthar's Hammer, take this sock!

Posted by: Jeff Weimer, Ret FCCS(SW/AW) at June 30, 2015 07:11 PM (Edob3)

299 That's it Anna. The F4 guys couldn't get in close to dog fight. They had to stand off to make the missiles work. Don't get me wrong, they were great at what they did, but they were missing a tool in their toolbox.

Posted by: Old Blue[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2015 07:11 PM (9iR5/)

300 Sorry, I'm done hornin' in on the cattle humor.

Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2015 07:11 PM (JVgzo)

301 Hi Tammy!

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 07:11 PM (kmtse)

302 My great concern, for years, re potato cannons, is that PVC becomes shrapnel if it bursts. And while the minimum burst pressure is much higher, the maximum normal operating pressure for Schedule 80..., if that is what you are using, is around 200 psi. Schedule 40 is somewhat lower. Makes me nervous. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2015 12:02 AM (F2IAQ) Many, many moons ago, I built a carbide cannon capable of chucking an empty beer bottle about a hundred yards, howitzer-style. The barrel was the rolled-paper core from a roll of carpet, with a wall thickness of about a half-inch. Very tough stuff, but if it did burst, it would become confetti, not shrapnel. Used a Coleman lantern striker, just like Muldoon's tater cannon.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 07:11 PM (lojDy)

303 No. Modern AAMs are more maneuverable than modern aircraft. Fifty years ago (Vietnam) an AIM-7 had a range of 10-15 miles and had to be guided into the target the entire way from the pilot airplane's radar. Fifty years is a long time and electronics/avionics have progressed a long way since then. An F-35 pilot swings his head, fires an AIM-120, off it goes, and, it tracks its own way to the target. That's great if we're fighting third world pissant armies like Iraq or Iran. It's not so certain if we become involved in a full on all out war with a China or Russia (10 years ago I would have called anyone who suggested the possibility crazy. Now I'm suggesting it). Dozens or hundreds of airframes mixing it up over a static battlefront changes the tactical situation radically.

Posted by: Weirddave at June 30, 2015 07:12 PM (WvS3w)

304 I'm not chipper when it comes to cow jokes.

That's a load of bull.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2015 07:12 PM (UVfht)

305 Bruce Jenner as a tranny is really freaking me out. Wipipedia has him at 6'2" probably wears a mens size 11 or 12 shoe be VERY careful which channel the TV is on I'm old enough to remember the 76 Olympics and actually ate Wheaties cereal that had him on the box. What's Nadia Comanechie up to these days?

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 07:12 PM (PY/7D)

306 @206 - Votermom, it actually works out the other way: a low-carb diet is always gluten-free (in the beginning), because most of the bread and pasta products are wheat-based. The thing that I like most about a GF diet is that I can still drink Coke and eat Snickers bars (and lose weight doing it.....).

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 30, 2015 07:13 PM (lsKGH)

307 Reporters on twitter joking about hillary emails So funny

Posted by: ThunderB at June 30, 2015 07:13 PM (zOTsN)

308 Bruce Jenner as a tranny is really freaking me out. Wipipedia has him at 6'2" probably wears a mens size 11 or 12 shoe be VERY careful which channel the TV is on I'm old enough to remember the 76 Olympics and actually ate Wheaties cereal that had him on the box. What's Nadia Comanechie up to these days? Posted by: moron #73 ***** Had a 6'4" gay coworker who was a drag queen on the weekends. He liked to wear 3 or 4 inch heels too.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 07:15 PM (F0Cog)

309 I am astounded at how stupid people on the left are. The Greek crisis illustrates perfectly just how delusional and ignorant they are. Many actually believe that it's all the banks fault and that Greece needs to "stand up to the mafia banks." LOL! I mean, honestly, do the lefties even know how to do basic math?

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at June 30, 2015 07:15 PM (BCTRd)

310 Univision should be deported. Will a Greek collapse mean cheaper Olive Oil?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 30, 2015 07:15 PM (n3Sbm)

311 Reporters on twitter joking about hillary emails Yeah, probably joking about how she gets away with everything and that they will gladly drag her over the finish line.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at June 30, 2015 07:16 PM (W5DcG)

312 306 What's Nadia Comanechie up to these days? Posted by: moron #73 at July 01, 2015 12:12 AM She married an American gymnast (male), had kids and they coach gymnastics.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 07:16 PM (Vm8WO)

313 Seems like it's been for-heifer since we've had a good pun thread.. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 01, 2015 12:10 AM (BVDFs) *groan...*

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 30, 2015 07:16 PM (2z4UX)

314 Okay, let's fight more about this tomorrow.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 07:16 PM (L3p2N)

315 This made me laugh. Someone on my twitter feed, talking about Hillary being out of touch with technology and everything else: ""We need to send this telegram to the Prussian consulate in Siam, pronto! Go by Autogyro!" -- @HillaryClinton (probably)"

Posted by: Weirddave at June 30, 2015 07:17 PM (WvS3w)

316 What does that mean? What are glutens?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 11:15 PM (L3p2N)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oht9AEq1798

Posted by: Kindltot at June 30, 2015 07:17 PM (3pRHP)

317 It's getting good in Greece. Since they've officially defaulted (to the IMF only yet, but that triggers things...), the ECB is going to be forced to "haircut" the value of Greek debt. It must do so if it is to be honest (something they haven't exactly been so hot on...). This is going to kill the Greek bank's balance sheets. It's going to force assets below liabilities.

    Now, what are a banks basic liabilities? Deposits. The money their customers have deposited. What will thus be forced to happen is the depositors are going to have take the haircut themselves.

    This hit can be anywhere from 30% to near 50%, depending just how honest the ECB is about the haircut.

    Again, defaults are deflationary, and this is an example of that. In this cases, it's going to force depositors' money to literally disappear. This is going to get good.

   Just imagine if you're an average Greek (who has no idea how this could happen with no warning) and you learn the money you have in the bank is going be considerably less than you thought.


Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 30, 2015 07:17 PM (dvuhZ)

318 301 Sorry, I'm done hornin' in on the cattle humor. Posted by: logprof at July 01, 2015 12:11 AM (JVgzo) Bull.

Posted by: eman at June 30, 2015 07:17 PM (MQEz6)

319 311 Univision should be deported. Will a Greek collapse mean cheaper Olive Oil? Posted by: Boss Moss at July 01, 2015 12:15 AM (n3Sbm) Most Italian olive oil is actually from Spain. Probably true of Greek as well, unless that's from Turkey.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2015 07:17 PM (EzgxV)

320 Entertain me!  I need to stay up as late as I can because I'm working 6pm to 6 am tomorrow.

Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2015 07:17 PM (zt+N6)

321 Glutens are those things that give Jedis their powers.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 30, 2015 07:18 PM (n3Sbm)

322 Well. Bed time. Need to get this short week over with. BTW, not sure if it was malware yesterday. Some stuff got changed and I couldn't get into my own computer even tho it said the password was ok. Also found a profile I did not recall being there. This PC is one I saved from ransom ware a friend stumbled into. Lost all the data, but was able to restore to factory settings. So yes, I am a tad paranoid.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale Warily Watching Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 07:18 PM (F0Cog)

323 Weirddave, I can't remember where I read it or how long ago (been under a year) that intelligence suggests that the Chinese are working on a low yield EMP device to fire at US carrier battle groups to eliminate our electronic capabilities.
They know that they couldn't defeat us on the battlefield with our current technology. They knock us back to WWII technology they might have a good chance.

Posted by: Old Blue[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2015 07:18 PM (9iR5/)

324 Since the US Treasury underwrites a chunk of the IMF, how much of a haircut are the US taxpayers going to get?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 07:18 PM (kdHdm)

325 I read that too a while back, Old Blue.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 07:19 PM (kmtse)

326 Hi Tammy! Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 01, 2015 12:11 AM (kmtse) Hey you!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 07:20 PM (BVDFs)

327 >>>>She married an American gymnast (male), had kids and they coach gymnastics. man I thought she was hot back in 76

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 07:20 PM (PY/7D)

328 321 Entertain me! I need to stay up as late as I can because I'm working 6pm to 6 am tomorrow. Posted by: buzzion at July 01, 2015 12:17 AM (zt+N6) We could give happy fun ball your address. That should keep you awake for a good while.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 07:20 PM (Vm8WO)

329 Well, effectively zero chance of seeing the Jupiter/Venus conjunction here tonight. Socked in real good; it showered earlier this evening a little, but not enough to please the farmers, for sure. And the lower atmosphere is still choked with smoke from forest fires in the North. Visibility less than 3 miles.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 07:20 PM (lojDy)

330 I found a new show. Wayward Pines. Pretty decent.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 30, 2015 07:21 PM (n3Sbm)

331 All these bovine puns are making me sick... I think I'm going to yak.

Posted by: really denouncing myself for encouraging this at June 30, 2015 07:21 PM (21zCy)

332 Ms Tammy!!!!! When did you sneak in?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 07:21 PM (Vm8WO)

333 The F-20 never stood a chance once the USAF decided not to buy any. After that kiss of death, no foreign power wanted to buy it. ------------ Taiwan was prepared to order it (at a time when still called the F-5G) but then the US decided not to sell it. It also did not help sales when the prototypes kept crashing on the sales missions.

Posted by: RioBravo at June 30, 2015 07:21 PM (NUqwG)

334 Don't forget that the Peoples Liberation Army Air Force has 300 or so Jian-10s in service.

What is the Jian-10?  Think the weird offspring of the Israeli Lavi and the Eurofighter Typhoon.  Along with SU-27s.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 07:22 PM (kdHdm)

335 feedlot visitor: How many cows in this feed lot? Cowboy: none, they are all steers and heifers.

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 07:22 PM (PY/7D)

336 They knock us back to WWII technology they might have a good chance. Put us in coach!

Posted by: Fat Man and Little Boy at June 30, 2015 07:22 PM (W5DcG)

337 It sucks every day, but if you need it it can save your life.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 30, 2015 11:33 PM (bLnSU)


What about Quadrotriticale? Tribbles loved it.

Posted by: Mr. Chekov at June 30, 2015 07:22 PM (UcCs1)

338 Many, many moons ago, I built a carbide cannon capable of chucking an .... ------------------ I still have my boyhood 'Big Bang' carbide cannon, and my dad's much earlier version. When I was a kid, myself and two other cannon owners would go into the dark crawl space under a friends house and exchange cannon fire. *bang!/flash!* . It was great. We were probably 8 or 9 years old.These days, one supposes that parents would be horrified. Of course, not long after that we learned how to brew up black powder, and things became even more interesting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 30, 2015 07:23 PM (F2IAQ)

339 "That's great if we're fighting third world pissant armies like Iraq or Iran. It's not so certain if we become involved in a full on all out war with a China or Russia (10 years ago I would have called anyone who suggested the possibility crazy. Now I" 180 degrees out of whack. Most future CAS will be with drones. Not manned aircraft.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 07:23 PM (L3p2N)

340 Jedi are powered by tiny particles called Mini Coopers. Well, the hipster ones, anyway.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/b][/u][/s][/i] at June 30, 2015 07:23 PM (bLnSU)

341 Yeah, can't see the Jupiter/Venus conjunction here in Denver either. Pretty solid overcast.
At least the Rockies are winning, but the game is not over yet.
We have a knack for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Posted by: Old Blue[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2015 07:23 PM (9iR5/)

342 I like to sniff glutens.

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 30, 2015 07:24 PM (n3Sbm)

343 I rather have Apaches watching my six. They've done a good job thus far as CAS is concerned.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 07:24 PM (kmtse)

344 Okay, gotta hasta.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 30, 2015 07:25 PM (L3p2N)

345 one of the joys of life is a bikini walking by with a real firm gluten it is like hormonal science

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 07:25 PM (PY/7D)

346 "I'm kinda liking military junta, myself....."

I hope it's Canada's Military that takes over. You really want the officers king putt has kept around in charge?

1st tranny highheel rainbow warrior social justice battalion reporting for duty Xhi!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 07:26 PM (6yehy)

347 CAS is good. Air superiority is a whole different ballgame. If you don't have that, CAS can get kind of iffy.

Posted by: Old Blue[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2015 07:26 PM (9iR5/)

348 Night RK

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 30, 2015 07:26 PM (F2IAQ)

349 Is the stealth thing too complicated?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 30, 2015 07:27 PM (n3Sbm)

350 There's a beer called Quadrotriticale. I think it's very hip.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/b][/u][/s][/i] at June 30, 2015 07:27 PM (bLnSU)

351 "I rather have Apaches watching my six."

That could be the key.

Military Junta of Warrant Officers. Competent at their specialty. No time for politics.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 07:27 PM (6yehy)

352 335 Don't forget that the Peoples Liberation Army Air Force has 300 or so Jian-10s in service. What is the Jian-10? Think the weird offspring of the Israeli Lavi and the Eurofighter Typhoon. Along with SU-27s. Posted by: Anna Puma at July 01, 2015 12:22 AM (kdHdm) Wasn't it the Lavi that took Neptunus Lex?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2015 07:27 PM (EzgxV)

353 Is the stealth thing too complicated? Posted by: Boss Moss at July 01, 2015 12:27 AM (n3Sbm) ----- How can you tell?

Posted by: RioBravo at June 30, 2015 07:28 PM (NUqwG)

354 We were probably 8 or 9 years old.These days, one supposes that parents would be horrified. Of course, not long after that we learned how to brew up black powder, and things became even more interesting. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2015 12:23 AM (F2IAQ) Damn, our childhoods were remarkably similar in some ways, Mike. I had a question last night, but I think you missed it. Any value in a '78 Chevelle Laguna SS with 454? Car in question has a 454, but not the original engine. Don't know if "numbers matching" is really an issue with those later smog motors anyway.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 07:28 PM (lojDy)

355 342 Yeah, can't see the Jupiter/Venus conjunction here in Denver either. Posted by: Old Blue at July 01, 2015 12:23 AM (9iR5/) Thanks for reminding me. Nice view off my balcony since that thunderstorm blew through.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 07:29 PM (Vm8WO)

356 The way that it's very complicated and can't deliver. More Warthogs.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 30, 2015 07:29 PM (n3Sbm)

357 The PRC is breeding Na'vi? What?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/b][/u][/s][/i] at June 30, 2015 07:29 PM (bLnSU)

358 325, the IMF mess gets complicated, but basically, each country has a "quota", which is their basic stake in the IMF. US's current quota is about 17% or so, so theoretically that would be how much we'd be on the hook for.

  Basically, the IMF creates a special kind of psuedo-currency called SDRs (Special Drawing Rights). The monetary high priests have always been purposely vague about just what they are. The US Treasury holds its quota, and the Fed has monetized it.

  Sometimes, the IMF and the member countries central banks do some magic with these. They were trying to pull some sort of SDR trick with Greece in the past, but I forget the details.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 30, 2015 07:30 PM (dvuhZ)

359 Cow puns? Isn't it pasture bed time, people?

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at June 30, 2015 07:30 PM (ovEqs)

360 350 Is the stealth thing too complicated? Posted by: Boss Moss at July 01, 2015 12:27 AM (n3Sbm) I'm thinkin' we should maybe be thinkin' ubiquity rather than stealth.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2015 07:30 PM (EzgxV)

361 Exactly Tim. I've had the honor of working with many Warrants, both Army and Navy, that had me both laughing my ass off and wondering WTF are they going to do next.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 07:30 PM (kmtse)

362 346 one of the joys of life is a bikini walking by with a real firm gluten my bikini line just had an unfortunate encounter with a spray can of nair.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 07:31 PM (Vm8WO)

363 Well, I'll be having some entertainment this weekend. War Thunder (a free WWII/Korea sim with tanks & planes) just updated and I feel like just shooting soviets and nazis all weekend long. Oh, if you haven't played it, here's a very nice patch trailer: https://youtu.be/SCdX85A3qKA

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at June 30, 2015 07:31 PM (ukTrJ)

364 The best time to see the Venus-Jupiter conjunction is about an hour after sunset. Just look up due west.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 07:32 PM (kmtse)

365 Some leadership philosophy from Gen. Robin Olds.

Don't try to bullshit the troops, but make sure they know the buck stops with you, that you'll shoulder the blame when things go wrong. Correct without revenge or anger.  Recognize accomplishment. Reward accordingly. Foster spirit through self-pride, not slogans, and never at the expense of another unit. It won't take long, but only your genuine interest and concern, plus follow-up on your promises, will earn you respect. Out of that you gain loyalty and obedience.

pg. 260.  Fighter Pilot. Robin Olds with Christian Olds and Ed Rasimus.  St. Martin's Press. 2010.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 07:32 PM (kdHdm)

366 bebe, Ouch.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 07:32 PM (kmtse)

367 I think we should make drones that cane make drones, so that we can have drones to fight drones and when those drones run out we will already have more drones.

(Insert Xzibit meme here.)

Actually we need as much intel as possible on enemy technology so we can compromise it and use it against them.

(Looks at our intelligence apparatus under the current admin)

Damit.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/b][/u][/s][/i] at June 30, 2015 07:32 PM (bLnSU)

368 Greece to begin bulk purchase of Powerball tickets, 3, 2, 1....

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 07:32 PM (lojDy)

369 Lex was trying to RTB in a F-21 Kfir which is an IAF Mirage with an F-4 engine.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 07:33 PM (kdHdm)

370 180 degrees out of whack. Most future CAS will be with drones. Not manned aircraft. I thought you went to bed? I actually think this is probably right, but I avoided mentioning it about 6-7 posts back because I thought it would be changing the subject. And we'd be foolish to move to 100% drone aircraft, because if the enemy somehow managed to interrupt ground-drone communications, we'd be disarmed. For the foreseeable future manned aircraft will be necessary (even if only as backups)

Posted by: Weirddave at June 30, 2015 07:33 PM (WvS3w)

371 So if 2 gay dudes get divorced, which one gets put through the wringer by the courts.  Which man gets to be the man in the divorce?

Talk amongst yourselves....

Posted by: teh reporters at June 30, 2015 07:33 PM (z+4T3)

372 my bikini line just had an unfortunate encounter with a spray can of nair. Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 01, 2015 12:31 AM (Vm8WO) "Don't spray that on you Schnauzer! It'll burn something fierce."

Posted by: Just The Punchline at June 30, 2015 07:34 PM (lojDy)

373 So. Greece defaulted. The thing that puzzles me is that, given the ancient and long history of Greek myths and legends, why did they choose to live the final Scandinavian (Viking) myth? Tsipras doesn't strike me as a "Thor" type, but he seems to have sailed his country and people into a firey ending of their world. They'll be lucky to have a van left to park down by a river ...

Posted by: Arbalest at June 30, 2015 07:35 PM (FlRtG)

374 367 bebe, Ouch. Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 01, 2015 12:32 AM Didn't hurt, since fortunately the mousse stuff didn't spread in that direction. But the outcome was most unfortunate. Think cersei lannister after the sparrows got done with her. Only shorter. USMC bootcamp short.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 07:35 PM (Vm8WO)

375 Ruh roh Bebes....

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 07:35 PM (kdHdm)

376 LOL!

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 07:35 PM (kmtse)

377 372 So if 2 gay dudes get divorced, which one gets put through the wringer by the courts. Which man gets to be the man in the divorce?

Talk amongst yourselves....

Posted by: teh reporters at July 01, 2015 12:33 AM (z+4T3)

 

I asked this morning if both of them would be represented by Cordell and Cordell.

Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2015 07:36 PM (zt+N6)

378 344 I rather have Apaches watching my six.

They've done a good job thus far as CAS is concerned.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 01, 2015 12:24 AM (kmtse)


I was doing some research on South Korea military purchases after the F-35 thread below. Korea did order 36 Apache helicopters which would be used against North Korean rocket launchers to be delivered in 2016 and 2018.


South Korea was going to spend about $8 Billion US on aircraft and in 2013, one group really lobbied for the F-35. Negotiations fell apart when Lockheed wouldn't lower their price and the process had to begin again - which was probably best.


Hell, I'm just impressed there are countries out there with our values that actually spend on their military outside of the United States and Israel.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 30, 2015 07:36 PM (AC0lD)

379 Do they just start printing up crap tons of Drachma?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 30, 2015 07:36 PM (n3Sbm)

380 pg. 260. Fighter Pilot. Robin Olds with Christian Olds and Ed Rasimus. St. Martin's Press. 2010. Posted by: Anna ------------------- Sounds booooring..

Posted by: Barky at June 30, 2015 07:37 PM (F2IAQ)

381 Darned near full moon, clear and warm, the cats do not want to come in tonight.
If I weren't old and have to work tomorrow I'd want to stay out all night too.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 30, 2015 07:37 PM (3pRHP)

382 I asked this morning if both of them would be represented by Cordell and Cordell. Posted by: buzzion at July 01, 2015 12:36 AM (zt+N6) Brings a whole new meaning to the term "gay divorcee", does it not?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 07:37 PM (lojDy)

383 370 Lex was trying to RTB in a F-21 Kfir which is an IAF Mirage with an F-4 engine. Posted by: Anna Puma at July 01, 2015 12:33 AM (kdHdm) Ah, I vaguely remembered it was in a "witchy" Israeli hybrid plane with a four-letter name, but couldn't remember if it was the one previously mentioned. We lost a damned good man that day.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2015 07:39 PM (EzgxV)

384 Do they just start printing up crap tons of Drachma? Posted by: Boss Moss at July 01, 2015 12:36 AM (n3Sbm) Simoleons or Spondulicks FTW.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 07:39 PM (lojDy)

385 spray on Nair, makes sense I still remember the "who wears short, shorts" commercial from about the time Bruce Jenner won a gold medal. So like Bebe is now on Team Hardwoods?

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 07:39 PM (PY/7D)

386 Funny as shit graphic posted by KBDaBear: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIzR29nUwAAbgax.jpg:large

Posted by: Weirddave at June 30, 2015 07:39 PM (WvS3w)

387 For Gaylord in the same paragraph.

But for God's sake, don't ever try to be popular! That weakens your position, makes you vulnerable. Don't have favorites. That breeds resentment. Respect the talents of your people. Have the courage to delegate responsibility and give the authority to go with it. Again, make clear to your troops you are the one who'll take the heat.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 07:40 PM (kdHdm)

388 I have to admit, I have a certain crush on Apaches. Being able to call on them is just so cool. Even when they're on the ground, not moving, you just have this one thought: "Fuck, I am so glad they're on our side." They just exude menace. I love them.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 07:40 PM (kmtse)

389 375 367 bebe, Ouch. Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 01, 2015 12:32 AM Didn't hurt, since fortunately the mousse stuff didn't spread in that direction. But the outcome was most unfortunate. Think cersei lannister after the sparrows got done with her. Only shorter. USMC bootcamp short. Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 01, 2015 12:35 AM (Vm8WO) Surely, this must fall under the Horde rule: "____, or it didn't happen"....

Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2015 07:41 PM (EzgxV)

390 Funny as shit graphic posted by KBDaBear:


https://pbs.tw___.com/media/CIzR29nUwAAbgax.jpg:large


For a working link:  http://preview.tinyurl.com/qdy6xb8

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2015 07:41 PM (UVfht)

391 387 So like Bebe is now on Team Hardwoods? Posted by: moron #73 at July 01, 2015 12:39 AM Ummm, kinda sorta. See 375

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 07:43 PM (Vm8WO)

392 " Exactly Tim.

I've had the honor of working with many Warrants, both Army and Navy, that had me both laughing my ass off and wondering WTF are they going to do next.

Our Artt Bn's Maintenance Chief a CW 4 was a top notch Guy. He knew every vehicle in our inventory front to back.

He had some pretty foul things to say about the goats. 

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 07:44 PM (wQ7l/)

393 They just exude menace.

I love them.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 01, 2015 12:40 AM (kmtse)


That's good to know and makes me happy. That's a lot of money to spend and the South Koreans deserve the best.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 30, 2015 07:44 PM (AC0lD)

394 Do they just start printing up crap tons of Drachma? Posted by: Boss Moss at July 01, 2015 12:36 AM (n3Sbm) *** They should be getting sage advice from Zimbabwe on the sizes of the notes to print if they are crazy enough to do this.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 30, 2015 07:45 PM (1eYr7)

395 391 Surely, this must fall under the Horde rule: "____, or it didn't happen".... Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 12:41 A My phone is dead, so no bait & switch pic of the spray can of nair for you.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 07:45 PM (Vm8WO)

396 Re: Greece -- oh, what a shock, a crappy socialist centralized government with more than 1/2 the work force working for the government fails. Again. Full disclosure: I'm half Greek (my mom's from Athens) and I love Greece and Greek people are some of the warmest, nicest people on earth. But they like taking the easy way out; they live for the moment. They remind me of the fable The Grasshopper and the Ant. Greeks are the Grasshopper -- have fun all summer with no thought for the coming winter. Yeah, yeah -- the banks lent money they knew Greece could never repay; and yes, the politicians borrowed it knowing it could never be repaid but it helped them kick the can down the road. Time to pay the piper. But what really pisses me off is that some of those "austerity" measures the MSM keeps talking about is raising the retirement age from 55 to 67 and increasing income taxes on those making more than $500k a year by 8% (everyone who makes less than $34k a year already pays zero income tax). I don't have much sympathy and like I said: I love Greece. I have close family who are suffering. Still -- instead of finally being responsible the last election they tried to kick the can down the road some more by blaming the Germans and electing a dick-less communist atheist (who's Greek, btw, is only marginally better than mine) to "stand up to Merkel." They are going to get what they deserve (Putin "owning" Greece, instead of Germany, which I think was Tspiras' plan all along). Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at June 30, 2015 07:45 PM (nJvB1)

397 I still remember the "who wears short, shorts" commercial from about the time Bruce Jenner won a gold medal. So like Bebe is now on Team Hardwoods? Posted by: moron #73 at July 01, 2015 12:39 AM (PY/7D) Going back to the well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OOTr04YTwE

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 07:46 PM (lojDy)

398 hehe, That bitch is getting some serious incoming from fellow DVs. She's about to experience what "LoveWins" means coming from a fuckton of vets who frankly, no longer has any fucks to give. You gonna talk smack about one of our own who lost a limb protecting your skank ass? Uh huh. Prepare to reap the whirlwind, bitch.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 07:46 PM (kmtse)

399 Damn, our childhoods were remarkably similar in some ways, Mike. I had a question last night, but I think you missed it. Any value in a '78 Chevelle Laguna SS with 454? Car in question has a 454, but not the original engine. Don't know if "numbers matching" is really an issue with those later smog motors anyway. Posted by: Alberta --------------------------- Yeah, by '78 things were pretty strangled down. Still, since most cars that age are exempt from smog emissions these days, I would think that there would be some rather interested folks, depending on condition. As an aside, here are some pics of the 454 powered 55 Chevy used in "Two Lane Blacktop" http://tinyurl.com/opb747j

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 30, 2015 07:47 PM (F2IAQ)

400 390 I have to admit, I have a certain crush on Apaches. Being able to call on them is just so cool. Even when they're on the ground, not moving, you just have this one thought: "Fuck, I am so glad they're on our side." They just exude menace. I love them. Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 01, 2015 12:40 AM (kmtse) When I was 16 years old, I was manning the night shift at a liquor store in Newhall. There was a regular who worked out in Palmdale on some chopper -- possibly the Apache. He'd come in and buy copious amounts of hard liquor and talk about how "them things would fly in real low and just rise up over a dune and there'd be shit you could do about it" in his nightmares.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2015 07:47 PM (EzgxV)

401 When it comes to military equipment, it comes down to what we will be able to build/maintain after an initial decimation of our forces by surprise attack. It's not what we have now, but what we can sustain during.

Posted by: The Martial Hat at June 30, 2015 07:47 PM (7YlUk)

402 I think they have Drachmas printed up and ready for distribution.

Thinks aint over yet. Merkel still has time to cave.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 07:47 PM (wQ7l/)

403 So like Bebe is now on Team Hardwoods? Posted by: moron #73 at July 01, 2015 12:39 AM (PY/7D) *** Just in the side hallways, if I am reading this correctly.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 30, 2015 07:48 PM (1eYr7)

404 We may suck at relationships, and Lord knows we have fucked up many of our own. But damn, we do excel at bringing the rain.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 07:48 PM (kmtse)

405 Just to be clear I'm for both Team Hardwoods and Team Carpet. And I don't watch Game of Thrones either

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 07:48 PM (PY/7D)

406 SMFH, here is my favorite "very last fuck" meme pic:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/q5953gy

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/b][/u][/s][/i] at June 30, 2015 07:49 PM (bLnSU)

407 Hat,

It's not really the systems anymore. Ammo consumption would be the main worry.

Inventory on hand won't last long and production capability is not up to keeping pace with sustained operations.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 07:50 PM (wQ7l/)

408 It's not really the systems anymore. Ammo consumption would be the main worry. Inventory on hand won't last long and production capability is not up to keeping pace with sustained operations. Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 12:50 AM (wQ7l/) I lumping it all in, including ammo.

Posted by: The Martial Hat at June 30, 2015 07:51 PM (7YlUk)

409 So what are the odds any of these countries about to buried by their own debt burden sees the light, eliminates 75% of their government, lowers tax rates, eliminates 80% of government red tape and encourages their people to get to work?



Or do they just Groundhog Day it again every generation and a half?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 30, 2015 07:52 PM (AC0lD)

410 FBI has cancelled all 4th of July leave

Posted by: ThunderB at June 30, 2015 07:52 PM (zOTsN)

411 did y'all see where Ace really insulted urinal cakes by comparing them to Chelsa Clinton earlier? That is so mean, since urinal cakes actually add value

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 07:52 PM (PY/7D)

412 What does Amy Carter charge for speeches?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 30, 2015 07:53 PM (n3Sbm)

413 cooth, The first time I saw one up close and personal was in 1988. Mt Ka'ala. I was signal then. Fucker came up from behind us while we were setting up a retrans site. Didn't even hear it. Next thing we knew, the pilot was grinning at us just moving his head side to side, the 30 mm gun doing the same. Damn near pissed myself.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 07:53 PM (kmtse)

414 Hat,

You are correct in your assessment then.

Merovign, Great pic.

SMFH. Chin Up and Soldier On Soldier. You are one of the best.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 07:54 PM (wQ7l/)

415 What is the Brill Cream Gestapo so worried about?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 30, 2015 07:54 PM (n3Sbm)

416 The Greek Commie PM has been playing chicken. They don't want to leave the euro, and he's making noise that, by God, he's going to sue the EU in the EU high court if they try to kick him out.

   It all boils down to what Frau Merkel will do. If she wants 'em out, out they go. If they are ejected by the EU, all Greek euros will be declared null and void (I believe even the banknotes have markings which indicate country of origin, so you know Greek euros even in cash).

  If they do that, the Greece's no longer has any valid currency that will be honored internationally. At that time, it's up to them what to do. Keeping using their own euros internally, but which are worthless, or print up new drachma, which will be worthless.

   Remember Greece is heavily dependent on imports for the necessities like medicines and all that. They will be fucked.

   Actually, personally I don't have much use for the EU and Greece's creditors, who foolishly lent them money they knew couldn't be paid back. Only by fraud did Greece (and several others) get into the EU. The whole damn thing has been as big a fraud as anything. And they all deserving the "haircuts" they're going to get, one way or the other.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 30, 2015 07:55 PM (dvuhZ)

417 a friend went to Greece a few years ago. Arently you don't flush toilet paper in Greece. It goes in a bin next to the potty

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 07:56 PM (PY/7D)

418 FBI has cancelled all 4th of July leave Posted by: ThunderB at July 01, 2015 12:52 AM (zOTsN) Uh-oh. sounds like it would be prudent to avoid large crowds, and "gun-free" zones. Tomorrow is Dominion Day here in Canada.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 07:56 PM (lojDy)

419 Yep Cthulhu, the whole world lost a great guy when Lex died.  But he was doing something he loved, flying.  Now if I could write like he did, would be minting money.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 07:57 PM (kdHdm)

420 Arently=apparently

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 07:57 PM (PY/7D)

421 LOL Merovign! I have many of those memes in my collection!

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 07:57 PM (kmtse)

422 Oh, this moron will never, ever motorboat Caitlyn Jenner. Team Motorboat, for victory! eleventy

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 07:59 PM (PY/7D)

423 Arently you don't flush toilet paper in Greece. It goes in a bin next to the potty Posted by: moron #73 at July 01, 2015 12:56 AM (PY/7D) Also true in Central America. Waste pipes are too small to cope with wads of paper. Also septic tanks are much more common than town sewers. Takes a little getting used to.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 07:59 PM (lojDy)

424 415 cooth, The first time I saw one up close and personal was in 1988. Mt Ka'ala. I was signal then. Fucker came up from behind us while we were setting up a retrans site. Didn't even hear it. Next thing we knew, the pilot was grinning at us just moving his head side to side, the 30 mm gun doing the same. Damn near pissed myself. Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 01, 2015 12:53 AM (kmtse) Yeah, that sounds like the reaction the guy was having -- and it was about 10 years earlier. My guy might have helped build the very one you saw -- and it was giving him nightmares to even build it.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2015 08:00 PM (EzgxV)

425 The solution to Greece's problems, from My Big Fat Greek Wedding, is Windex.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at June 30, 2015 08:00 PM (MYPM9)

426 So how are we any better off than Greece? Because we have more assets, or is it just that our creditors haven't called in the debt yet or.....?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:00 PM (BVDFs)

427 We have more printing presses.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 30, 2015 08:01 PM (n3Sbm)

428 419 a friend went to Greece a few years ago. Arently you don't flush toilet paper in Greece. It goes in a bin next to the potty Posted by: moron #73 at July 01, 2015 12:56 AM (PY/7D) ******************************** Ha -- that's true in a lot of places (especially on the islands) because of the crappy septic sewerage systems. But in Athens you can flush the paper down the toilet.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at June 30, 2015 08:01 PM (nJvB1)

429 FBI has cancelled all 4th of July leave Posted by: ThunderB at July 01, 2015 12:52 AM (zOTsN) ***** My daughter, her boyfriend and my girlfriend and I have plans to just get together Friday and Saturday night. Friday night will be fireworks in Kennesaw, GA. Saturday night will be 3 hours in a rented plane seeing all of the shows that ATL has to offer from the sky. Let those fcuks try us here in Kennesaw.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 30, 2015 08:01 PM (cygkw)

430 f they are ejected by the EU, all Greek euros will be declared null and void (I believe even the banknotes have markings which indicate country of origin,

Its by the first letter or number. I know Germany is "X" and IIRC Greece is "Y"

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 08:01 PM (6yehy)

431 Posted by: moron #73 at July 01, 2015 12:56 AM (PY/7D) I'd say a 1/4 of Americans have the same set up.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:01 PM (BVDFs)

432 >>>So how are we any better off than Greece? we can flush our TP? and the ATM's still work?

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 08:01 PM (PY/7D)

433 The only thing worthwhile on clipped is ogling Ashley Tisdale.

Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2015 08:02 PM (zt+N6)

434 419 a friend went to Greece a few years ago. Arently you don't flush toilet paper in Greece. It goes in a bin next to the potty Posted by: moron #73 at July 01, 2015 12:56 AM It happens here too, wherever you have illegal aliens from points south.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 08:02 PM (Vm8WO)

435 We lost a damned good man that day. Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 12:39 AM (EzgxV) That was a rough week - we lost Andrew Breitbart a few days earlier. Found out about both here in the Headlines sidebar.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer, Ret FCCS(SW/AW) at June 30, 2015 08:02 PM (Edob3)

436 Waste pipes are too small to cope with wads of paper. ---------------- We do not have this problem.

Posted by: Venezuela at June 30, 2015 08:02 PM (F2IAQ)

437 Our ATM's are loaded with TP.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 30, 2015 08:03 PM (n3Sbm)

438 Tim in Illinois has it correct. A theoretical conventional war between two super powers wouldn't be able to last beyond a couple of weeks, maybe a month. The sheer amount of ammo being sent downrange would be enormous, and no country has the industrial capacity to replace it. Not to mention the equipment that would be destroyed.
During WWII, the Soviets were cranking out 2,000 tanks a month. More than enough to replace battlefield losses. The T-34 was such a beast that in order to shift gears, the driver had to sometimes hit the gear shift with a sledgehammer.
The Sherman was deathtrap. It cooked off like a Zippo lighter, but, we made thousands and thousands of them. The German Tiger was the best on the battlefield, but it was complex and couldn't be mass produced quickly.
Nobody has that kind of production anymore. The war would be over before you could convert civilian manufacturing to a war time footing.

Posted by: Old Blue[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2015 08:03 PM (9iR5/)

439 Ha -- that's true in a lot of places (especially on the islands) because of the crappy septic sewerage systems. But in Athens you can flush the paper down the toilet. Posted by: Dancing Queen at July 01, 2015 01:01 AM (nJvB1) Or just have your asshole sculpted to print the Euro symbol, and "print" your own money.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 08:03 PM (lojDy)

440 411 So what are the odds any of these countries about to buried by their own debt burden sees the light, eliminates 75% of their government, lowers tax rates, eliminates 80% of government red tape and encourages their people to get to work? Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 01, 2015 12:52 AM (AC0lD) ZERO. Because that wouldn't save them, anyway. They (and we) have gone well past the point of monetary no-return. There is no clean escape.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 30, 2015 08:04 PM (MYSVz)

441 427 The solution to Greece's problems, from My Big Fat Greek Wedding, is Windex. Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 01, 2015 01:00 AM (MYPM9) ****************************** I don't know where that movie came up with that Windex shit -- every Greek knows it is plain old rubbing alcohol that is a panacea for whatever problem you may have.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at June 30, 2015 08:04 PM (nJvB1)

442 Greece should just start counterfeiting Euros.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 30, 2015 08:04 PM (n3Sbm)

443 Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 01, 2015 01:01 AM (cygkw) I have always wanted to do that! Sort of. I don't really like those small planes. But I think I'd be distracted enough by all the sparklies to forget about it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:05 PM (BVDFs)

444 >>'d say a 1/4 of Americans have the same set up. no way! I'll go with 1/16 or 6% a quarter? The Air Conditioning % is higher than that

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 08:05 PM (PY/7D)

445 Because that wouldn't save them, anyway. They (and we) have gone well past the point of monetary no-return. There is no clean escape. Posted by: ThePrimordial --------------------- Musical chairs. It's just a question of when the music stops.

Posted by: Venezuela at June 30, 2015 08:06 PM (F2IAQ)

446 Hey AOP! Happy Dominion Day! Do you guys get fireworks?

Posted by: Old Blue[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2015 08:07 PM (9iR5/)

447 The USA made 50,000 Sherman tanks durring WW2

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 08:07 PM (PY/7D)

448 Small arm ammo, Grenades and Mortars. A prolonged war would essentially reduce any super powers manufacturing ability to the level of the Nationalist Chinees in 1939.


Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 08:07 PM (6yehy)

449 we can flush our TP? Posted by: moron #73 at July 01, 2015 01:01 AM (PY/7D) We can't flush TP here in the country, child. Well, depending on .... nevermind.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:08 PM (BVDFs)

450 So how are we any better off than Greece? Because we have more assets, or is it just that our creditors haven't called in the debt yet or.....? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 01, 2015 01:00 AM (BVDFs) ***** We are still the World's reserve currency. Only thing currently saving us. We are actually, per capita, much worse off than Greece as far as debt is concerned. When Reserve currency status goes, well, things will get "interesting". I still hate that little Chinese fucker what came up with that.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 30, 2015 08:09 PM (2z4UX)

451 What was the quip, real generals don't discuss tactics instead they discuss logistics.

Red Storm Rising and Team Yankee for glimpses at what a 'conventional' war in Europe will do to war stocks and the men.

And ponder those war stocks are no longer there.  While we have something like 600 F-16s at AMARG plus A-10Cs.  It would take months of round the clock effort to return just a portion of that fleet to flight status.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 08:10 PM (kdHdm)

452 I wonder if all the tools and dies still Exist for the M-60. Tank not MG. The mg is just a cheap imitation of the Kraut MG-42 anyway. Might as well use the real thing as far as that goes.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 08:10 PM (6yehy)

453 Tim, In 2003, my CW3,who was the the Armament tech, would go around with his civvie counterpart from General Dynamics and ride around in his Polaris and shoot pigeons that would congregate in the rafters of the aircraft hangar we were living in in Bayji with a pellet gun. I would be working on a tank, Bradley, whatever, and the next thing I knew, *thunk* dead pigeon would land on the hull. He really hated pigeons.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:10 PM (kmtse)

454 It occurs to me that while curb-stomping the F-35 has its place, and is fun, it's not the REAL national security challenge these days. That challenge comes from 2 factors.

1. Our armed forces have shrunk to 1917 levels in total strength, not including the Coast Guard. Bluntly speaking, we cannot honor all our treaty commitments any more, and depending on the month we may not be able to fight two simultaneous conflicts on opposing sides of the globe like we could in 1990-91. We can argue the merits of the F-35 all day long, but if there are only 50 of them in operation at any time for each fixed-wing service, they give our enemies no fear.

2. The past month we learned that Chicom hacker teams funded by their military intelligence and state security police have hacked the OPM and FBI personnel databases, scoring much intel treasure and proving to the world we have pathetic electronic security. What we don't know and D.C. probably doesn't know (But the Chicoms know) is how many other departmental networks have been hacked, to what extent, and what malware has been left behind to assist them and hinder us. Again, arguing the merits of the F-35 is of little effect if PRC leaders can predict to the day what our political and military leadership is doing and what orders are being issued to our troops. That's half the battle there, and the more difficult part.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 30, 2015 08:11 PM (ry4ab)

455 Posted by: moron #73 at July 01, 2015 01:05 AM (PY/7D) You're probably right, and math ain't my strong suit, but there are 30,000 people in my county and I know that half of them are on septic tanks. Very rural area.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:11 PM (BVDFs)

456 Time for bed here, early day at work. Be well you Morons. T

Posted by: Farmer at June 30, 2015 08:12 PM (o/90i)

457 449 The USA made 50,000 Sherman tanks durring WW2
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And today the sole tank production factory in Lima. Ohio is closed down.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 30, 2015 08:13 PM (ry4ab)

458 449 The USA made 50,000 Sherman tanks durring WW2

Posted by: moron #73 at July 01, 2015 01:07 AM (PY/7D)

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I rest my case. By the time of Stalingrad, the soviets were building 2,000 tanks a month. They could lose 1,500 tanks a month and still be ahead of the game.

Try reading "WWIII, August 1984". I believe that is the title. It was written by a retired NATO general on a possible NATO/Warsaw Pact conflict. The sheer amount of material being destroyed/used up caused both sides to finally go to the nuclear option, but on a limited scale.

Posted by: Old Blue[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2015 08:13 PM (9iR5/)

459 What we don't know and D.C. probably doesn't know (But the Chicoms know) is how many other departmental networks have been hacked, to what extent, and what malware has been left behind to assist them and hinder us. That hadn't occurred to me. Shit.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:13 PM (BVDFs)

460 388 Funny as shit graphic posted by KBDaBear: https://pbs.tw___.com/media/CIzR29nUwAAbgax.jpg:large Posted by: Weirddave at July 01, 2015 12:39 AM (WvS3w) Link fixed. http://tinyurl.com/punbqug

Posted by: Weirddave at June 30, 2015 08:13 PM (WvS3w)

461 Exdem13.  To piggy-back do we really know all the foreign made ICs are clean of any special features?  Because how many of those ICs are in US defense systems?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 08:15 PM (kdHdm)

462 Pigeons?

LoL

What did he do with them after he shot them? We should get together and write a small book about the secret ocd's of the illusive Chief Warrant Officer.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 08:15 PM (GoyxN)

463 >>>And today the sole tank production factory in Lima. Ohio is closed down. there are thousands of M1-Abrams just parked and rusing around the USA saw a show on it years aog

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 08:15 PM (PY/7D)

464 We are actually, per capita, much worse off than Greece as far as debt is concerned That's kind of what I thought.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:15 PM (BVDFs)

465 Night , Farmer!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:16 PM (BVDFs)

466 420 FBI has cancelled all 4th of July leave

Posted by: ThunderB at July 01, 2015 12:52 AM (zOTsN)


Uh-oh. sounds like it would be prudent to avoid large crowds, and "gun-free" zones.


Tomorrow is Dominion Day here in Canada.
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Yeah, 6.6 years of Obummer in charge and the terrorists can threaten us on home soil again. Hope and change!!

Happy Dominion Day up there! Have an extra beer for us.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 30, 2015 08:16 PM (ry4ab)

467 Average per capita debt that I saw on Powerline was for Puerto Rico -> $20,000 for each man, woman, and child.  In the United States it was $50,000 per.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 08:16 PM (kdHdm)

468 Tim, The junior enlisted would collect them up and throw them into the burn pit.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:16 PM (kmtse)

469 So how are we any better off than Greece? Because we have more assets, or is it just that our creditors haven't called in the debt yet or.....? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 01, 2015 01:00 AM (BVDFs) *** Forgot to mention that we are far and away our own largest creditor, via the monetary policy of the Yellen /Bernanke soon to be named World wide depression caused by hyperinflation and no will to take the steps to correct it, like raising interest rates, cuz the on Red debt would be too expensive to maintain.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 30, 2015 08:17 PM (1eYr7)

470 Hey AOP! Happy Dominion Day! Do you guys get fireworks? Posted by: Old Blue at July 01, 2015 01:07 AM (9iR5/) Yes, there will be fireworks displays in most cities and towns. With the extreme forest fire hazards currently prevailing, it would be unwise for private folks to fire them off; too easy to get a grass fire going. Lots of "non-explosive" fireworks are sold here, but stuff that makes a big bang is banned, even small firecrackers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 08:17 PM (lojDy)

471 418 The Greek Commie PM has been playing chicken. They don't want to leave the euro, and he's making noise that, by God, he's going to sue the EU in the EU high court if they try to kick him out. It all boils down to what Frau Merkel will do. If she wants 'em out, out they go. If they are ejected by the EU, all Greek euros will be declared null and void (I believe even the banknotes have markings which indicate country of origin, so you know Greek euros even in cash). If they do that, the Greece's no longer has any valid currency that will be honored internationally. At that time, it's up to them what to do. Keeping using their own euros internally, but which are worthless, or print up new drachma, which will be worthless. Remember Greece is heavily dependent on imports for the necessities like medicines and all that. They will be fucked. Actually, personally I don't have much use for the EU and Greece's creditors, who foolishly lent them money they knew couldn't be paid back. Only by fraud did Greece (and several others) get into the EU. The whole damn thing has been as big a fraud as anything. And they all deserving the "haircuts" they're going to get, one way or the other. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 01, 2015 12:55 AM (dvuhZ) There is a very interesting little side note buried in this -- Euro notes are printed in Euro countries and indicate the country of origin. But of a German takes 300 Euros worth of German Euro bills to Greece on holiday to pay his bar tab, he will be receiving change in Greek Euros during his stay, and nobody will blink. Accordingly, Greek Euros can be found throughout the Eurozone. If Greece's creditors try to devalue Greek Euros, it could hit the cash drawer of a cafe in Paris. But if they don't, what's to keep Greece from continuing to print them? They've got the plates. They've got the motivation. They've got the attitude that the Germans owe 'em a happy life. I wouldn't be surprised if Greece were running three shifts per day on the printing presses -- and, again, if you have packets of these guys and start buying stuff in the shops in Berlin, nobody would blink.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2015 08:17 PM (EzgxV)

472 Late however, that was a very sweet second goal of the USA ladies futbol team against Germany.  Go USA! for the World Cup!

Posted by: Lost Tom Servo at June 30, 2015 08:18 PM (WWghQ)

473 I've had the two most craziest, awesomest CWOs as my raters for my NCOERs. They were the best first line supervisors a tank girl can have.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:18 PM (kmtse)

474 how many other departmental networks have been hacked OPM wasnt hacked. The bad guys were handed the keys to the car, and its trunk was full of booze.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 08:18 PM (Vm8WO)

475 461 What we don't know and D.C. probably doesn't know (But the Chicoms know) is how many other departmental networks have been hacked, to what extent, and what malware has been left behind to assist them and hinder us.

That hadn't occurred to me. Shit.
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Yeah, that is the thing that worries me, and we won't know until someone finds the stuff and fixes it on the downlow...or PRC calls our bluff, we attempt to go in guns blazing...and the electronic shit hits the fan.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 30, 2015 08:19 PM (ry4ab)

476 heh. "Police up those pigeon KIA's, troop."

Posted by: Venezuela at June 30, 2015 08:19 PM (F2IAQ)

477 I figured that the Navy were planning increasingly on short, sharp wars when, on the destroyers and cruisers, they took the cranes off the deckhouses that had been intended to allow underway reloading of the VLS missile cells.

That procedure now has to be done in port, not at sea.

There are a whole lot of bad assumptions being made.

Posted by: torquewrench at June 30, 2015 08:19 PM (noWW6)

478 Hey, do you think anyone will be fired over the OPM debacle?

(snicker)

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/b][/u][/s][/i] at June 30, 2015 08:20 PM (bLnSU)

479 Pretty much, Venezuela. It got to the point where we'd have a little game going where we'd bet how many KIAs CW3 Walker would score during a given week.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:20 PM (kmtse)

480 Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 01:17 AM (EzgxV) Dude. What a fucked up system. And that scenario never occurred to our oh-so-sophisticated European betters? I still don't believe it'll happen, and this makes me even more convinced.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:21 PM (BVDFs)

481 SMFH,

They would throw our humorous book into a fire pit?

You are probably right. Is it a requirement that new enlistees be required to have the ability to read these day?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 08:21 PM (GoyxN)

482 Merovign, I'm going with none.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:21 PM (kmtse)

483 Pigeons are pretty tough I've shot the with a 12ga with 8 shot and they don't die so easy. and I shot them while they were pearched, not flying. pest control style I'll use 6 shot next time head shots with the pellet gun?

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 08:21 PM (PY/7D)

484 I don't really like those small planes. But I think I'd be distracted enough by all the sparklies to forget about it. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 01, 2015 01:05 AM (BVDFs) ***** I did this last year, and it was cool. Developed a better flight plan for this year, should be awesome.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 30, 2015 08:22 PM (cygkw)

485 Posted by: exdem13 at July 01, 2015 01:19 AM (ry4ab) Jesus Christ.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:22 PM (BVDFs)

486 Tim, Was in 2001. Now, who the fuck knows.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:22 PM (kmtse)

487 Cthulhu that would be an interesting FU from the Greece to the EU if they kick the country out.

EU announces in two weeks that Greece will be removed.  And Greece hits warp speed on the electronic EUs so overnight every Greek finds in their accounts one billion Euro.

And then the shooting starts.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 08:23 PM (kdHdm)

488 If the "journolist" who said the Obama Administration was scandal-free wasn't fired, ain't nobody getting fired.

Somewhere we lost the ability to make the government heel, now it's running around eating off the table and pissing on the carpet. And biting big old aunt Emma, who just screams and throws food every direction.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/b][/u][/s][/i] at June 30, 2015 08:23 PM (bLnSU)

489 463 Exdem13. To piggy-back do we really know all the foreign made ICs are clean of any special features? Because how many of those ICs are in US defense systems?
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Yeah, that's a question that (hopefully) is giving our intel guys some sleepless nights. I curse the day Japan and us outsourced IC making to PRC and other nations for sake of economy. Never mind any flaws due to manufacturing ('cause Chicoms don't care about QC) the idea of sabotage or spyware chips loaded into our systems pretty much gives the Chinese license to sucker punch us whenever convenient, or sell the how-to manual on doing so to any other enemy willing to pay for it. Maybe there is another reason Iran is giving us the bird with both hands? 

Posted by: exdem13 at June 30, 2015 08:24 PM (ry4ab)

490 Merovign, the OPM head will probably find a nice cushy job at a UN NGO while the CIO gets to become ambassador to Beijing.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 08:24 PM (kdHdm)

491 But if they don't, what's to keep Greece from continuing to print them? They've got the plates. They've got the motivation. They've got the attitude that the Germans owe 'em a happy life. I wouldn't be surprised if Greece were running three shifts per day on the printing presses -- and, again, if you have packets of these guys and start buying stuff in the shops in Berlin, nobody would blink. Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 01:17 AM (EzgxV) And how hard would it be for Greece to change the plates to make "German" euros, or "French" euros. Sure, it would be illegal as hell, but who would stop them? The EU would ultimately have to issue a whole new series of currency.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 30, 2015 08:24 PM (lojDy)

492 Try reading "WWIII, August 1984". I believe that is the title. It was written by a retired NATO general on a possible NATO/Warsaw Pact conflict. The sheer amount of material being destroyed/used up caused both sides to finally go to the nuclear option, but on a limited scale. Ian Sheffield, IIRC. And the Sovs nuked Birmingham while we nuked Minsk. The horror caused the Sov people to overthrow their govt. Again, IIRC, it's been 30 years since I read the book.

Posted by: Weirddave at June 30, 2015 08:24 PM (WvS3w)

493 The Chinese are in it for the long game. It's all about the digital battlefield.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:24 PM (kmtse)

494 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 01, 2015 01:23 AM (bLnSU) I am so stealing that.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:25 PM (BVDFs)

495 What's holding us together is yes, reserve currency status, but deeper than that, it's psychology. We're the US, the most power economy, etc, and this ingrained. I remember hearing this from some furreinger I was talking to about all this, and he still had this "but you're the US", some infinite supply of economic oomph.

   That psychological inertia is the only thing holding. Again, it's Wile E. Coyote stepping off the cliff. He doesn't fall until he realizes he's standing on air. When the mass psychology grasps that we are over the cliff, that's when it goes. The realization that there's no way to repay the $18T of treasury bonds out there.

   At that point, we can go deflationary Depression, or if the feds, out of money, start raw printing, we'll go hyperinflationary Depression.

    They'll do anything to keep the SS and welfare checks going, so they'll print. At that point, knowing it leads to hyperinflation they won't care. All they'll worry about is holding it off for one more day.

   When Weimar hyperinflated (and others) they always know it doesn't work, but they get forced into it to hold off the torches and pitchforks for one more day, hell hour.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 30, 2015 08:25 PM (dvuhZ)

496 480 Hey, do you think anyone will be fired over the OPM debacle?

(snicker)

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 01, 2015 01:20 AM (bLnSU)

 

Get Darryl Issa on it.  Maybe he can get someone to retire with their full pension.  That'll show'em!

Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2015 08:26 PM (zt+N6)

497 Anna, the CIO will probably receive a hero's welcome.

Tammy, it ain't stealin', it's a gift!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/b][/u][/s][/i] at June 30, 2015 08:26 PM (bLnSU)

498 Has Mr. Moo Moo offered to bail Greece out yet? I understand that he is a very rich person.

Think about it. Having an entire Nation in your debt. How many people could ever claim that?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 08:27 PM (91eZY)

499 The last I heard, and this was before the national debt topped 18 trillion, was that every man, woman and child in the US owed almost $60,000.00. The interest on the national debt is north of four hundred billion per year. The IRS is taking in close to a trillion a year in taxes. To pay off the national debt, the US could pay five hundred billion per year for the next 40 years, but this does not count interest payments as well. Please note that this figure does not include all of the unfunded liabilities such as SS, Medicare and Medicaid and Obamacare.
During his Presidency, Obama has doubled the national debt. SSDI will run out of funding next year. Medicare will run out of funding by 2030, followed by SS, probably before 2050.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is what our political betters have saddled us with. We haven't yet, but are close to running out of other people's money.
The only way out is to devalue the dollar to such a point that it becomes worthless.
Can you say Zimbabwe? A loaf of bread could cost you a couple of thousand dollars.

Posted by: Old Blue[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2015 08:27 PM (9iR5/)

500 I've got the fucking creeps now.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:27 PM (BVDFs)

501 I'm not sure the Euro/Greece issue is the biggest issue. From what I've seen the massive wave of african/moslem illegal immigrant issue may kick the domino's over. that shit in Cailais with the illegal immigrant camp is hair raising

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 08:27 PM (PY/7D)

502 Tammy, It's worse than you can ever conceive. Which is why I drink. A lot.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:28 PM (kmtse)

503 Well the Mega rolled over to $50 million cash

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/islands/ginger-island

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 08:28 PM (kdHdm)

504 I wish so much that I was a LIV.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:29 PM (kmtse)

505 474 Late however, that was a very sweet second goal of the USA ladies futbol team against Germany. Go USA! for the World Cup!
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It sure was, no mistake! For me the real moment of truth came when the Sarce gal on the German side (whom the play callers kept rhyming with 'sausage') got the penalty kick against us and whiffed the shot. Our gals took that as the Biblical sign of Jehovah's favor and went all-out. It was the extra sweetener on them beating the shorts off the PRC team on Monday. Haven't felt that sort of satisfaction since anytime we beet Russia back in the Commie days. 

Posted by: exdem13 at June 30, 2015 08:30 PM (ry4ab)

506 Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 01, 2015 01:28 AM (kmtse) Sadly, I get sick if I have more than a drink or two. Ima have to hoard pain pills and start buying heirloom vegetable seeds.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:30 PM (BVDFs)

507 Drinking is a secondary MOS among NCOs in the Army...I'm pretty sure it's even more so nowadays.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:31 PM (kmtse)

508 I lost the Mega Millions again.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 30, 2015 08:31 PM (n3Sbm)

509 482 Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 01:17 AM (EzgxV) Dude. What a fucked up system. And that scenario never occurred to our oh-so-sophisticated European betters? I still don't believe it'll happen, and this makes me even more convinced. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 01, 2015 01:21 AM (BVDFs) Oh, no -- they're all sophisticated and European and superior and well beyond such pettiness. And each bank with a set of printing plates has totes pinky-swears that they'd never, ever, ever print banknotes if every item on the printing checklist weren't absolutely performed correctly. But, yeah, each cash drawer in a Eurozone country is probably only about 80% that country's Euro notes -- and in tourist areas possibly much less. So if they declare Greek Euros invalid, some pizza place in Dubrovnik that just hosted a Greek expat party could end up unable to pay his rent. And, of course, once you deposited your Greek Euros in an Italian bank, your bank balance would be in generic electronic Euros and they'd give your cash out as change at the tellers. And if they go after the Greek Euros, why would anyone accept a Spanish or Portuguese Euro in change for a purchase with a German Euro?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2015 08:31 PM (EzgxV)

510 477 461 What we don't know and D.C. probably doesn't know (But the Chicoms know) is how many other departmental networks have been hacked, to what extent, and what malware has been left behind to assist them and hinder us. That hadn't occurred to me. Shit. --------------- Yeah, that is the thing that worries me, and we won't know until someone finds the stuff and fixes it on the downlow...or PRC calls our bluff, we attempt to go in guns blazing...and the electronic shit hits the fan. Posted by: exdem13 at July 01, 2015 01:19 AM (ry4ab) What worries me is that they got the SF86 data on everybody. For those that don't know, the SF86 data is the answers to the extremely personal questions they ask on the lie detector while processing security clearances. The answers won't be used against you (unless you confess to shooting the President), but they can be EXTREMELY embarrassing. Have you had an affair, done drugs, sniffed your sister's undies, lusted after Hillary - that kind of stuff, basically a blackmailer's wet dream. EVERYBODY who has a security clearance is now vulnerable to blackmail, and the ChiComs have the means to do it. As a practical matter, the USA does not have any intelligence services anymore.

Posted by: Weirddave at June 30, 2015 08:31 PM (WvS3w)

511 473: Capital controls. This depends on just what the rest of the EU will do. You declare Greek Euros monetera non-grata. You isolate them financially. Nothing crosses the wires so to speak. You offer limited time redemption of any Greek printed euro cash your own citizens hold, to be exchanged for good euro. The time limit must be short.

   You do this quickly and without warning. You're still going to have some "smuggling" going on, say Greeks sneaking out with good euros they still have, but you cut off the electronic cross-border monetary system.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 30, 2015 08:32 PM (dvuhZ)

512 They're devaluing the dollar *now*, they're just screwing with the math to try to hide it. Something like $85 Billion a day, IIRC.

Keep the government paychecks, benefits, and stock market running has been their only priority. And because they simply lie about everything, you can't get them to change direction.

You can't argue with a liar, it's like trying to push a chain.

5.5% Unemployment! Also, free green cheese from the Moon!

It isn't actually *that* hard to do the things needed to be a rich society. It's kind of a lot of work to mess it up. Mind you, plenty of people are willing to do that work, so they have the numbers.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/b][/u][/s][/i] at June 30, 2015 08:32 PM (bLnSU)

513 Now that Kalishnakov is now making AKs in the USA, I know what I'm getting soon.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:32 PM (kmtse)

514 487 Posted by: exdem13 at July 01, 2015 01:19 AM (ry4ab)

Jesus Christ.
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"May Christ have mercy on our souls, for our bodies belong to our enemies."
 -Simon de Montfort III, Earl of Pembroke, at the opening of the Battle of Lewes 

Posted by: exdem13 at June 30, 2015 08:33 PM (ry4ab)

515 American-make AKs made in the USA http://tinyurl.com/oxsj4rr

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:33 PM (kmtse)

516 I wish Greece a happy devaluation, to the extent that in a year or so my wife will be able to live her happiest Greek-island 'Mamma Mia' dreams. Whether I'm a part of that depends on the scriptwriter.

Posted by: JEM (sometimes The Devoceleraptor) at June 30, 2015 08:35 PM (o+SC1)

517 I have never had a government (job) security check, like the SF-86.

I AM NOW THE INDISPENSABLE MAN, hire me as a spy, quick!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/b][/u][/s][/i] at June 30, 2015 08:35 PM (bLnSU)

518 "Well the Mega rolled over to $50 million cash"

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Whatever.  Call us when it's 500 billion.

Posted by: Greece at June 30, 2015 08:35 PM (DtNNC)

519 504 Tammy, It's worse than you can ever conceive. Which is why I drink. A lot. Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 01, 2015 01:28 AM (kmtse) Cheers!

Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2015 08:35 PM (EzgxV)

520 Who wants to buy an island on a lake in Poland?

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/islands/schulzewerder-island

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 08:35 PM (kdHdm)

521 @517 - now where's the California version?

Posted by: JEM (sometimes The Devoceleraptor) at June 30, 2015 08:36 PM (o+SC1)

522 Weirddave, I received a nice little letter via mail that my info MAY have been compromised. I didn't think I had much to worry about, since I only had secret clearances in 1987 and 2001 (I was signal in 1987 and Armament in 2001). Silly me.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:36 PM (kmtse)

523 LOL cooth. Back at ya!

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:36 PM (kmtse)

524 Posted by: Weirddave at July 01, 2015 01:31 AM (WvS3w) Well, here's my opinion, if they allow themselves to be blackmailed, they ought to be hung as traitors. Not trying to diminish the enormity of the problem, just saying that I have no patience for shit like that.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:37 PM (BVDFs)

525 SMFH got such a letter way way back on the 13th.  Took them four paragraphs to get around to kinda admitting anything.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 08:37 PM (kdHdm)

526 522 Who wants to buy an island on a lake in Poland?
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We could do a go fund me, name it Peruvia, and only Morons are allowed entrance.

Posted by: Old Blue[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2015 08:37 PM (9iR5/)

527 522 Who wants to buy an island on a lake in Poland? Poland? Cooooolllddd winters. Pass.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 08:38 PM (Vm8WO)

528 Well here is a Turkish island that is close to the Greek island of Lesbos

http://www.privateislandsonline.com/islands/hasir-island

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 08:38 PM (kdHdm)

529 I've got the fucking creeps now. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 01, 2015 01:27 AM (BVDFs) ** Just enjoy every day. Seriously. I mean, why not? Be a wise Hedonist. Have a great time but keep an eye out. It is a great time to enjoy simple stuff. Friends, family, God's Glory in Nature and all that you have that is not propped up by "stuff". This Country will endure, and he better than ever, but it is time for a reboot or a total restart. We are not fcuking going anywhere.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 30, 2015 08:38 PM (2z4UX)

530 @524 - no, if you got the letter you need to assume you have been.

Posted by: JEM (sometimes The Devoceleraptor) at June 30, 2015 08:38 PM (o+SC1)

531 I got mine via snail mail right before I came down with kidney stones. Huh.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:38 PM (kmtse)

532 MWNP, What will happen is all the dead "growth" will be burnt away.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:39 PM (kmtse)

533 530 Well here is a Turkish island that is close to the Greek island of Lesbos
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Even better. It's probably warm there. In the winter. There would be boobies.

Posted by: Old Blue[/i][/b][/s][/u] at June 30, 2015 08:39 PM (9iR5/)

534 513 473: Capital controls. This depends on just what the rest of the EU will do. You declare Greek Euros monetera non-grata. You isolate them financially. Nothing crosses the wires so to speak. You offer limited time redemption of any Greek printed euro cash your own citizens hold, to be exchanged for good euro. The time limit must be short. You do this quickly and without warning. You're still going to have some "smuggling" going on, say Greeks sneaking out with good euros they still have, but you cut off the electronic cross-border monetary system. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 01, 2015 01:32 AM (dvuhZ) Yep, and then you have everyone flushing out Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, and Irish Euros -- because everyone knows they are next. And how about those Greeks who have accounts at Austrian banks?

Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2015 08:40 PM (EzgxV)

535 @529 - do I get a Patriot battery on the island too?

Posted by: JEM (sometimes The Devoceleraptor) at June 30, 2015 08:40 PM (o+SC1)

536 I know JEM. What pisses me off is that my children's and ex-hubby's SSNs are compromised from the SF-86 I filled out in 2001 when I went back into the Army.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:41 PM (kmtse)

537 Actually, things will get good. The ECB monetary system, while like our own Fed, and any modern central bank system that creates a currency by monetizing "assets" (usually govt. debt, promises to repay. Ie the value of the dollar depends on the US govt being will to "repay" what it borrowed, but in the same currency it just created...the magic of fiat current).

  But since it is not one country, but a union of countries, the cross-national monetary activity is complicated. A few years ago, I was up on all this, fascinated with it, but have forgotten the details.

    Each EZ member country's central bank is sort of like one of the regional fed banks. Cross pollination has to occur. But with us, it's all under one national umbrella. The Head Fed in Washington controls it all. In the EZ, there's the TARGET2 cross system, and IIRC, things can get quite convoluted with the monetary balancing system (ie, which assets are backing which currency on the individual central bank balance sheets).

  If Greece blows, the TARGET2 mess could create a situation where the other countries needed to "take a monetary haircut" and be forced to somehow pull wads of now-unbalanced and unbacked euro of the system.

    And Greece wouldn't cooperate on its end. IOW, to maintain monetary balance, Frau Merkel might have to inform her citizens of a big haircut coming to all the money they thought they held.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 30, 2015 08:41 PM (dvuhZ)

538 I never got a letter, so I guess they didn't get my info. I should have realized that since I got my clearance through my employer, not the govt, it would be okay, even though it was for military contracts for the most part.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:41 PM (BVDFs)

539 aren't Polish women total hotties till they hit 45 or so then turn into a babushka? the isle of Lesbos is being flooded now with 'asylum seekers' from africa and the mideast total pig sty

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 08:42 PM (PY/7D)

540 495 The Chinese are in it for the long game.

It's all about the digital battlefield.
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Yeah, the Russkis were gobsmacked when we took their playbook out of Saddam's hands in '91 and beat him with it. I bet a LOT of old Commie generals and admirals thanked their non-existent God that they had NOT tried the Hackett and Clancy scenario  in the days of Ronaldus Maximus. But their technological base wasn't up to snuff, and they fell behind for a while. The PRC OTOH got smart, took notes, and started writing a new playbook for fighting us, since we were now the one to beat. Unlike the Russians, the Chinese are in position to possibly hand us our asses in an optimal victory for them, due to espionage on all levels. I used to think that the US intel guys duly read Sun Tzu, especially his final chapter on spying, which was written down 600 years before the birth of Christ and is STILL applicable today! But apparently not, and they have the potential to make us fight THEIR battle, at the time and place of THEIR choosing.
 

Posted by: exdem13 at June 30, 2015 08:42 PM (ry4ab)

541 @536 - Think Ireland's halfway stable now. Spain and Italy are still potential fuckdom, Portugal close behind.

Posted by: JEM (sometimes The Devoceleraptor) at June 30, 2015 08:42 PM (o+SC1)

542 If that letter was mailed to the last known address, I'll never get mine. They would have to back track to my late Parents Farm, which I haven't owned for three years.

Post Office keeps Change od Addresses on file for how long, one year?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 08:42 PM (91eZY)

543 Nobody has that kind of production anymore. The war would be over before you could convert civilian manufacturing to a war time footing. Posted by: Old Blue at July 01, 2015 01:03 AM (9iR5/) I wouldn't bet the farm on it. Better to be prepared.

Posted by: The Prepared Hat at June 30, 2015 08:43 PM (7YlUk)

544 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 01, 2015 01:41 AM (dvuhZ) You're like a financial wizard-god.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:43 PM (BVDFs)

545 I didn't think I had much to worry about, since I only had secret clearances in 1987 and 2001 (I was signal in 1987 and Armament in 2001). Silly me. " So what would you do to keep your wife from learning that in 1983 you experimented with homosexuality and the guy you were with later died of AIDS? Surely it's nothing to worry about, she'll understand youthful indiscretion and incubation periods, right? I'm sure she won't care at all. Will she? Of course, if you just give us the password to the Ft. Rucker mainframe, we'll make sure she never gets an email detailing that. It's not even treason, we have the password already, we're just confirming. What do you say, huh? " Nothing to worry about at all, oh, no.

Posted by: Weirddave at June 30, 2015 08:44 PM (WvS3w)

546 I have a dog-eared copy of Sun Tzu. As a commenter here regularly proclaims... WASTF

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:44 PM (kmtse)

547 @541 - got old friend who's popped a bunch of kids out of a Polish girl, still in the US but disappointed enough that still shopping real estate in the East Bloc never mind Putin.

Posted by: JEM (sometimes The Devoceleraptor) at June 30, 2015 08:44 PM (o+SC1)

548 What will happen is all the dead "growth" will be burnt away. Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 01, 2015 01:39 AM (kmtse) ***** Yep. That would be very, very good.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 30, 2015 08:45 PM (2z4UX)

549 "Oh, no -- they're all sophisticated and European and superior and well beyond such pettiness. But, yeah, each cash drawer in a Eurozone country is probably only about 80% that country's Euro notes ..." There is no longer any doubt. Doing it the Greek way ends in a lot of butt-hurt.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 30, 2015 08:45 PM (FlRtG)

550 Oh well back to the writing.

Ciao.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2015 08:45 PM (kdHdm)

551 Who wants to buy an island on a lake in Poland? http://www.privateislandsonline.com/islands/schulzewerder-island Posted by: Anna Puma at July 01, 2015 01:35 AM (kdHdm) Buy? No. Take? Da!

Posted by: Vlad Putin at June 30, 2015 08:46 PM (7YlUk)

552 Good luck trying blackmail me for smoking dope in Hawaii as a kid.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:46 PM (kmtse)

553 Post Office keeps Change od Addresses on file for how long, one year? Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 01:42 AM (91eZY) Yes, a year, but I have to say, I still get a few things forwarded to me two years in to our last move. It's kind of sweet, because it's always important looking stuff, so someone is clearly keeping an eye out.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:46 PM (BVDFs)

554 I go to school via the Post 9/11 GI Bill, so it wasn't hard to find me.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:48 PM (kmtse)

555 I wanna be a chairbourne ranger....

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 08:48 PM (91eZY)

556 I wanna live a life of leisure......

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 08:49 PM (91eZY)

557 i wanna be sedated

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 08:50 PM (Vm8WO)

558 So no F-35s were "shot down" at Green Flag West, whereas A-10s and F-16s were.

http://aviationweek.com/defense/f-35-unscathed-hostile-fire-green-flag

But it's not an anonymous five-page report by a "test pilot", or some mouthbreathing dipshit at a Gawker site, so you should probably ignore it.

Posted by: FWIW at June 30, 2015 08:50 PM (HQyvY)

559 It's possible I could get tracked through the Church but I doubt the gub'mint would put that kind of effort into this.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 08:50 PM (91eZY)

560 I was once a Power-Point Ranger* *no but it is fun to say

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 08:50 PM (PY/7D)

561 Nothing to worry about at all, oh, no. Posted by: Weirddave at July 01, 2015 01:44 AM (WvS3w) Oh hell no. Fucking coward better not cave. She's got it already or she didn't get it. You don't sell your country out for your marriage. Besides which, if she loves you she either won't care or will believe any lie you when you say they're lying.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:51 PM (BVDFs)

562 I'm happy at Ft Livingroom

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:51 PM (kmtse)

563 It's kind of sweet, because it's always important looking stuff, so someone is clearly keeping an eye out. Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 01, 2015 01:46 AM (BVDFs) **** That should kinda scare you a little bit more than thinking it is sweet. Just my $.02, and worth every penny you paid for it.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 30, 2015 08:51 PM (cygkw)

564 I wanna be a chairbourne ranger.... Posted by: Tim ------------- *hands Tim a 71H20 MOS *

Posted by: Sgt. Hammer at June 30, 2015 08:52 PM (F2IAQ)

565 I go to school via the Post 9/11 GI Bill, so it wasn't hard to find me. Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 01, 2015 01:48 AM (kmtse) That's even scarier.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:52 PM (BVDFs)

566 559 i wanna be sedated Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 01, 2015 01:50 AM (Vm8WO) Massive congratulations, BTW!!!! You go, girl!!!!! Of course, being as I don't have a smart phone, I have a dumb one....I only got your text a couple of days later.

Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2015 08:52 PM (EzgxV)

567 547

Nothing to worry about at all, oh, no.
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Pretty good theoretical case Weirddave, just the sort of thing that has been on my mind from time to time since the OPM got sacked like Rome. NO good to have the world's most awesome jets when the enemy has their flight and maintenance schedules, and the dates of when they will be sent overseas. And that doesn't even cover potential silicon saboteurs in the black boxes, radar and radio sets, or the missile guidance systems...

Posted by: exdem13 at June 30, 2015 08:52 PM (ry4ab)

568 BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at June 30, 2015 10:32 PM (GEICT) Thank you for answering my question on your podcast. I wish to send Pookette to an institute of higher learning someday, and appreciate your prompt reply.

Posted by: pookysgirl can walk (a few yards) at June 30, 2015 08:52 PM (IJeUX)

569 g'night you folks on my monitor

Posted by: moron #73 at June 30, 2015 08:52 PM (PY/7D)

570 Sgt. Hammer LOL!

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:53 PM (kmtse)

571 Good luck trying blackmail me for smoking dope in Hawaii as a kid.

Wasn't that a requirement to graduate at the time?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2015 08:53 PM (UVfht)

572 I had a grand total of six slices of lunchmeat to eat today (that's why I'm so fat), so I should probably make dinner now before I try to get some sleep. Otherwise I'll wake up all wonky.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/b][/u][/s][/i] at June 30, 2015 08:53 PM (bLnSU)

573 Way behind in the comments and about to have computer downtime, but wanted to say: Hi SMFH! Good to see you again.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 30, 2015 08:53 PM (b2cFu)

574 I want to be seduced.

Posted by: Leon Redbone at June 30, 2015 08:54 PM (F2IAQ)

575 Tammy, And I have at least a year to go before I get my Bachelors. Fun times indeed.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:54 PM (kmtse)

576 I stand up, lock up shuffle out the door....

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 08:54 PM (wQ7l/)

577 536: Yep, the rest of the PIIGS (and we're all PIIGS, really) will fall like dominoes. That's what Commie Tspiras (however you spell it) is ultimately counting on. They'll let him get away with default, and continue to spend money he doesn't have (extracted from Germany), in order to prevent that cascade.

   However, that could start another cascade. The rest of the PIIGS will say, hey you let Greece off the hook, now we want a deal too, and they start threatening to default.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 30, 2015 08:54 PM (dvuhZ)

578 Hey Crank! How's the baybeh?

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:54 PM (kmtse)

579 Bebe, speaking of that, did Gushie pass on my congratulations this weekend?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/b][/u][/s][/i] at June 30, 2015 08:54 PM (bLnSU)

580 Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at July 01, 2015 01:51 AM (cygkw) LOL, I was well known at the post office, even though it was a city of 200,000 with only one post office proper. I got a LOT of mail, and sent even more. Very involved with AnySoldier.com and Soldier's Angels, plus I have a shit-ton of family in other states I mail to!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:55 PM (BVDFs)

581 I stand up, lock up shuffle out the door....

Scream like a girl to the count of four...

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2015 08:55 PM (UVfht)

582 God help us if the chinks (yeah, I said chinks) has the intel about FBCB2.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:55 PM (kmtse)

583 568 Massive congratulations, BTW!!!! You go, girl!!!!! Of course, being as I don't have a smart phone, I have a dumb one....I only got your text a couple of days later. Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 01:52 AM (EzgxV) thanks! excited and scared. And just sent you another text. Hopefully you read it now that you know I sent it. I believe you have the phone number of the person mentioned so you can convey the message.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 08:56 PM (Vm8WO)

584 584 God help us if the chinks (yeah, I said chinks) has the intel about FBCB2.
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Want to make a bet?

Posted by: exdem13 at June 30, 2015 08:57 PM (ry4ab)

585 Belgium Z Germany X Estonia D Ireland T Greece Y Spain V France U Italy S Cyprus G Luxembourg 1 Malta F Netherlands P Austria N Portugal M Slovenia H Slovakia E Finland L Just check the first letter on the euro to see its country's origin.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 30, 2015 08:57 PM (CxEX+)

586 its the OC for drinks and I'm home by four......

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 08:57 PM (91eZY)

587 Actually, now that I think about it, it could be that the addresser pays for the forwarding in some cases.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 08:57 PM (BVDFs)

588 581 Bebe, speaking of that, did Gushie pass on my congratulations this weekend? Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 01, 2015 01:5 Yes she did. Thanks!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 08:58 PM (Vm8WO)

589 I got disgorged from Ucka Sams Air Farce back in '79. Don't think my security info from there has been yet divulged? No matter, though. I went pretty damn dark on the system back in '99. Yeah, one basic bank account, but they can only see my automatic pay for truck insurance. And my deposits are cash. Will not post here how that happens. I'm 57, no heirs. And I have skills, and frankly, incredible marksmanship and absolutely no conscience at all, insofar as the context of the conversation. Shit goes down, I want to combine forces at SMFH's coordinates. Combined arms can wreak havoc. And at this point, it's damn near certain. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 30, 2015 08:58 PM (RzZOc)

590 I'm seriously considering dropping my Verizon (month by month, fuck contracts). The only reason I don't is because my kids text more than they call...and I do love getting pics of the granddaughter and grandbaby to be (due in Oct). Want to see a crazy bitch just totally lose it? Go after my kids. Please. I dare you.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 08:59 PM (kmtse)

591 Back here at office we pray for no war.......

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 09:00 PM (91eZY)

592 546: No, just managed to decipher how the monetary systems really work. There's nothing to it, simple really, it's just shrouded in a lot of ritual and secrecy. My own belief is if most people really understood how the system works, it would collapse as they'd realize it was all "vapor", basically some pretending based on faith that their fellow man (in the form of his governments) are good as their word.

   Essentially, central bank money is created on the promises of people to continue economic activity. A dollar is a promise that someone will do a "dollar's worth" of work in the future. And the dollar they get in the future is based on yet another farther future promise to do the same dollar of work (or production, or something physically real of value).

 It's basically psychology, nothing more.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at June 30, 2015 09:00 PM (dvuhZ)

593 Jim, Yes it is. And I am so fucking glad I live in Texas.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:00 PM (kmtse)

594 583 I stand up, lock up shuffle out the door.... Scream like a girl to the count of four... Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 01, 2015 01:55 AM So, we can count you out when we need spiders offed?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 09:00 PM (Vm8WO)

595 I remember when the EU formed; I was just a little girl and I thought it was crazy.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 09:01 PM (BVDFs)

596 War is coming. No getting around it. It's just a matter of how it's going to go down.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:01 PM (kmtse)

597 So, we can count you out when we need spiders offed?

Nah, I like smashing those little alien looking freaks.

Not so keen on the clean up.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2015 09:02 PM (UVfht)

598 72H?

No thanks.

I went from 13B to 31B+E

In B-dad though we were just over trained 11B's


Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 09:02 PM (91eZY)

599 I actually like spiders (as long as they're not face-sized).

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:02 PM (kmtse)

600 That's what Commie Tspiras (however you spell it) is ultimately counting on. They'll let him get away with default, and continue to spend money he doesn't have (extracted from Germany), in order to prevent that cascade. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 01, 2015 01:54 AM (dvuhZ) It's not a bad bet. After all, Greece was allowed to get away with a default just a few years ago. They gave creditors something like 70% haircuts on their principal and had it all deemed to not be a "default" since - as the orgs put it in Benedict Roberts type lunacy - the creditors "voluntarily" gave up their principal .. so it wasn't a "default". LOL. But Greece made it through and the CDS sellers didn't have to pay. One American fund held out and sued .... but they lost, as they clearly had to for the illusion to be upheld. I guess, in the end, the haircut was :just a [global] tax"

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 30, 2015 09:04 PM (MYSVz)

601 All that paper work would be a bore.....


A Chairbourne army of one!! Now with red high heels to match our rasperry, err.... Black Beret.


Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 09:05 PM (wQ7l/)

602 Jim, We meet up at Ft Hood when the SHTF, I'll school you on the Abrams

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:05 PM (kmtse)

603 563 Nothing to worry about at all, oh, no.
Posted by: Weirddave at July 01, 2015 01:44 AM (WvS3w)


Oh hell no. Fucking coward better not cave. She's got it already or she didn't get it. You don't sell your country out for your marriage.

Besides which, if she loves you she either won't care or will believe any lie you when you say they're lying.
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Tammy it is people like you in the Nation's service that enable me to sleep at night.   However, unlike you, some people out there have done some dumb things, or done things that are OK by government standards but won't look good on CNN. The human factor is at play here, and humans are weak and sinful creatures at times... Blackmail won't get the top rating, though. The real intel concern is that the Chicoms will find the next few angry and greedy bastards like Ames or Walker who will happily sell their country down the river for a new car and a vacation cottage. And those guys didn't have network access and thumbnail drives to speed things along either.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 30, 2015 09:06 PM (ry4ab)

604 535 530
Well here is a Turkish island that is close to the Greek island of Lesbos
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Even better. It's probably warm there. In the winter. There would be boobies.
Posted by: Old Blue at July 01, 2015 01:39 AM
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Boobies perhaps.  But boobies accompanied by an exuberance of chest/armpit hair... and gnarled nipples erect with fiery indignation at the ubiquity of heterosexuals and their disgusting urges.

Posted by: Second thoughts on Lesbos. at June 30, 2015 09:07 PM (DtNNC)

605 601 I actually like spiders (as long as they're not face-sized). Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 01, 2015 02:02 AM I leave alone the non poisonous ones that stay outside. The black and brown widows, those I destroy with extreme prejudice

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at June 30, 2015 09:07 PM (Vm8WO)

606 The 1st tranny rainbow battalion should were that pink and grey cammo you can find in the stores.

Talk about some Fabulous!!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 09:08 PM (wQ7l/)

607 Well, we won't solve the nation's problems tonight... Good night all.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 30, 2015 09:08 PM (ry4ab)

608 Damn, you people get really interesting to read past 1:00 AM.


Yeah, you're all great during the daylight hours too, and maybe it's the booze you're all having, the smoldering of Greece in the air, but some great reading.


Thanks and good night all.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 30, 2015 09:08 PM (AC0lD)

609 *eyes Tim* Yeah, about that shit....

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:09 PM (kmtse)

610 Shit goes down, I want to combine forces at SMFH's coordinates. Combined arms can wreak havoc. And at this point, it's damn near certain. *** I am not Mil trained, but am a fair shot out to 300 for a Civvy, plus my specially is Project Management. A special page hanging off an otherwise innocuous site would be a good rallying point. I could make this all happen, with special permissions required and all that, FYI.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 30, 2015 09:09 PM (1eYr7)

611 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 01, 2015 02:00 AM (dvuhZ) Financial wizard-god, and psychologist extraordinaire! I will never forget the day I was contemplating doing a 401k for the first time, and wanted a quick and dirty explanation of what the stock market actually was and how it worked, and I fucking could not believe it. I thought there'd be more.... I dunno, it just seems so flimsy, when you get right down to it.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 09:10 PM (BVDFs)

612 592 I'm seriously considering dropping my Verizon (month by month, fuck contracts).

The only reason I don't is because my kids text more than they call...and I do love getting pics of the granddaughter and grandbaby to be (due in Oct).

Want to see a crazy bitch just totally lose it? Go after my kids.

Please.

I dare you.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at July 01, 2015 01:59 AM (kmtse)

 

If you don't use your phone for anything really beyond calling and text I would look into one of the discounted services.  All the carriers have them.  I know that Cricket Wireless is ATT's for instance.  You'll still get your pictures and can save some money.

Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2015 09:10 PM (zt+N6)

613 Rum is king. And since I'm on "summer break" (all of one week), no classes, and I've been watching movies where shit gets blown the fuck up (though I did watch the Princess Bride earlier because fuck you, it's a good movie) and boredom...I'm doing an experiment on the alcoholic tolerances of a 5'9", 180 lb woman with some serious anger issues. So far, the results are promising.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:12 PM (kmtse)

614 "*eyes Tim*"

I'll send ya a pic of my nose. You won't do that anymore.

(Insert Nelson Muntz laugh here)

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 09:13 PM (6yehy)

615 Posted by: exdem13 at July 01, 2015 02:06 AM (ry4ab) Yes, I think its the greedy soulless bastards we have to worry about. Perversion is all the rage now, so blackmail probably won't be much of an issue!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 09:14 PM (BVDFs)

616 That supposed to scare me? pfft.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:14 PM (kmtse)

617 (though I did watch the Princess Bride earlier because fuck you, it's a good movie)

One of the top ten quoted by the horde, if memory serves.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2015 09:14 PM (UVfht)

618 I could ruminate all day and not come up with any good cow jokes. Keep chewing on it, one'll come to you. Posted by: Weirddave at July 01, 2015 12:03 AM (WvS3w) Cud I chime in here too?

Posted by: Blano at June 30, 2015 09:14 PM (heN73)

619 Thanks buzzion, I'll look into that.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:15 PM (kmtse)

620 Ever get the feeling that all this s**t is going to all come to a culmination right before the November election?

Posted by: The Stannic Hat at June 30, 2015 09:15 PM (7YlUk)

621 Hat, Yes. Yes I do.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:16 PM (kmtse)

622 "pfft."

I tried.


Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 09:16 PM (6yehy)

623 I wonder if all the tools and dies still Exist for the M-60. Tank not MG. The mg is just a cheap imitation of the Kraut MG-42 anyway. Might as well use the real thing as far as that goes.

 

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 01:10 AM

 

 

Hmmmm... The MG-42 is a fine gun, in fact it's a great weapon. Really detructive. the M-60 is a cheap imitation of it, true and the MG-42 tends to run better without interruption. However, don't underestimate the value of the M-60 over the MG-42 for practical use in the field. I've mucked around with both (M-60 mostly, obviously) and the 60 has advantages over the 42, which can a bitch as a squad LMG. As a fixed position or vehicle mounted MG, the M-60 can't touch it. But, as a carried section LMG, the M-60 has the edge, IMHO.

Posted by: otho at June 30, 2015 09:16 PM (d8udV)

624 Well hell, I need to go to bed. Cue up the nightmares about invading Commies cans of Nair gone rogue. Night, y'all!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 30, 2015 09:17 PM (BVDFs)

625

Check out Clark Howards information on cheap cell phone plans.

 

Just go to www.clarkhoward.com and search cell phone plans.

Posted by: buzzion at June 30, 2015 09:17 PM (zt+N6)

626 No, just managed to decipher how the monetary systems really work. There's nothing to it, simple really, it's just shrouded in a lot of ritual and secrecy. My own belief is if most people really understood how the system works, it would collapse as they'd realize it was all "vapor", basically some pretending based on faith that their fellow man (in the form of his governments) are good as their word. This is only true since 1973, when Nixon took us off the gold standard. Essentially, central bank money is created on the promises of people to continue economic activity. A dollar is a promise that someone will do a "dollar's worth" of work in the future. And the dollar they get in the future is based on yet another farther future promise to do the same dollar of work (or production, or something physically real of value). It's basically psychology, nothing more. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at July 01, 2015 02:00 AM (dvuhZ) I have to disagree with you, here. Monetary systems are very real things and don't depend on the government, itself. They are, at their heart, nothing but counting systems that people use to keep track of wealth. They are necessary and useful - to say the least. The problem is when one of the main criteria of money is violated. If that doesn't happen then the money is ... as good as gold. Even a total fiat currency. But the temptation for authorities to violate the monetary rules to their benefit is very great and has never, in history, been stopped for any fiat currency that has ever existed. This is why gold was, is and will always be the best true money around. It is 1) anonymous, 2) indestructible, 3) rare, 4) uncounterfeitable, 5) easily verifiable, 6) almost infinitely divisible 7) easily discernible as to ownership and impossible to create. It is money in every sense. I would put a little note in that bitcoins (and many crypto-currencies) are also very interesting and satisfy many of the criteria for money but with the added benefit of being able to be transferred instantaneously across any border and used online). There are, to be sure, many problems with these crypto-currencies and how ownership is handled (public transaction record chains, cryptographically locked which the bulk of "miners" 'agree' to work on given some ephemeral criteria ....) but the ideas behind these currencies are truly genius and they satisfy most of the definite requirements for counting/ownership systems to serve as money. The lack of central authority with the power to create the currency is also a big, big plus that the crypto-currencies have over central bank money. Anyway ... just thought I'd throw that all in there ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 30, 2015 09:18 PM (MYSVz)

627 My Vey-Gas bookie is giving pretty good odds that the election won't even take place.

I'm thinking about breaking my Religious Beliefs and dropping a few bucks on "no".

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 09:18 PM (6yehy)

628 My dear Morons and 'Ettes. I am squinting to see laptop as eyes a very unflattering shade of swollen puce. As I knew I would, our driving elder son to airport gave me the sadz. I did pray not to cry in front of him and "Good job, ChristyB. You get a trophy for not sobbing and making scene." Four soggy tissues later I am going to bed. Won't see the kid til Thanksgiving, Lord willing. And, yes, I am being a big ole redneck baby as I know the military and other issues prohibit seeing loved ones often. He has a good job but I think he misses us. (And I could still killz the redhead who left him a few years ago...he has not found the right one. If you are a praying person, please pray for blessings for him in the coming months. I would feel so much better if he could meet his future wife asap so his Mama stops worrying as he is brilliant but spaced out, if that makes sense. I also think he misses us then weep again. In short: I am a freaking mess. Good night. The good news is, after two weeks of foot contusion and Hobbit foot, I can see some of the bones of instep and limp is less like Festus on Gunsmoke. I can wear a clog. Which is good, but it sucks as I want to wear sandals. Less green like The Won, however, so improving. Love y'all. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky,aging Redneck Queen supermodel, has a Hobbit foot at June 30, 2015 09:18 PM (FCPu0)

629 man I thought she was hot back in 76 Posted by: moron #73 at July 01, 2015 12:20 AM (PY/7D) She was a tomboy next to Katerina Witt.

Posted by: Blano at June 30, 2015 09:19 PM (heN73)

630 Ever get the feeling that all this s**t is going to all come to a culmination right before the November election? Posted by: The Stannic Hat at July 01, 2015 02:15 AM (7YlUk) *** Actually, as I see this going, it will be held back until after the Elections, if the polling is going R+ pretty strongly. After that, chaos. If it looks like Canquelles gets the nod, no idea how they hide this shit for 4-8 more.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty, unperson from Free Market Jesus Paradise at June 30, 2015 09:20 PM (2z4UX)

631 SMFH. For future reference and purposes. You really need to drop me a line at the addy in my nic. Before the bastrds cut off comms, etc. I would write more, but OPSEC, etc. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX PS. hasta la nite nite, horde!

Posted by: Jim at June 30, 2015 09:23 PM (RzZOc)

632 SMFH. For future reference and purposes. You really need to drop me a line at the addy in my nic. Before the bastrds cut off comms, etc. I would write more, but OPSEC, etc. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX PS. hasta la nite nite, horde!

Posted by: Jim at June 30, 2015 09:23 PM (RzZOc)

633 Most of my fellow battles don't give a fuck about elections, as I don't. None of us plan on voting, because we see it as an exercise in futility, and frankly, we all hate politicians. R, D, makes no fucking difference. It's all about those we want to protect when the shit goes sideways. And it will. And it won't make damn bit of difference who is in the WH.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:24 PM (kmtse)

634 Got it Jim.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:24 PM (kmtse)

635 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at June 30, 2015 09:24 PM (UVfht)

636 'night

Posted by: everyone at June 30, 2015 09:28 PM (DtNNC)

637 "And it won't make damn bit of difference who is in the WH."

Unfortunately I agree. My faith in the Princes of politics is gone. I don't see how it will ever come back.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 09:28 PM (6yehy)

638 Tim, We've passed the rubicon. This nation's enemies are sitting back, watching, laughing, and waiting. They don't have to do a damn thing for the next 16-18 months. They'll make their move when it is in their best interest to do so. Why expend resources to destroy your enemy when your enemy is destroying itself from within.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:32 PM (kmtse)

639 I truly do feel like I'm in Iraq. Not knowing friend from foe.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:34 PM (kmtse)

640 And I am not alone in feeling this way. This nation done fucked up in a big way for making us vets feel this way.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:35 PM (kmtse)

641 I'm not worried about ISIS, AQ, or any other goatfucking bunch. It's our so-called "neighbors" and "fellow Americans" who warrant out suspicion. HQ for the most part excepted.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:38 PM (kmtse)

642 our even

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:38 PM (kmtse)

643 They can't destroy us though.

There is no such thing as a dangerous weapon, only dangerous people.


Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 09:40 PM (GoyxN)

644 *grins at Tim* Some of us were taught by the best. Not surprising that this admin is going after vets.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:41 PM (kmtse)

645 Always assume until proven otherwise that everyone is on the other team.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 09:43 PM (GoyxN)

646 Read Embarrassing Confessions of a Marine Lieutenant. Its on kindle. Its funny. You will laugh.

Posted by: beats27 at June 30, 2015 09:43 PM (V8L/P)

647 Trust but verify.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:44 PM (kmtse)

648 14 monthly checks?

WTH?

Did the Calender go metric too?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 09:45 PM (GoyxN)

649 Shit, my living stipend was reduced this month because of the one week "summer break" as far as my GI Bill is concerned. Good thing I have other means of making money.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at June 30, 2015 09:47 PM (kmtse)

650 Dammit!!

Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2015 09:48 PM (EzgxV)

651 Oh, wait....

Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2015 09:48 PM (EzgxV)

652 14 monthly checks? WTH? Did the Calender go metric too? Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 02:45 AM (GoyxN) Tetradecal, so be specific

Posted by: The Numberical Hat at June 30, 2015 09:49 PM (7YlUk)

653 SMFH, could you spare the time for a brief phone chat? I'm having equipment issues.... [NO SNICKERING!!!!]

Posted by: cthulhu at June 30, 2015 09:49 PM (EzgxV)

654 "I'm having equipment issues...."

That's something I would never admit to. In public.

Snicker.......

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 09:52 PM (GoyxN)

655 (chortle)

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/b][/i][/s][/u] at June 30, 2015 09:52 PM (bLnSU)

656 And caught up--until next patient comes in. SMFH, he's great. Got a sweet video from Mrs. Crank tonight showing him working on his walking with some wheeled toy, so he's upright and going forward, just running into everything he can. Another month or so and he'll learn to do it independently, and then it'll be game over...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 30, 2015 10:02 PM (b2cFu)

657 This is why gold was, is and will always be the best true money around. It is 1) anonymous, 2) indestructible Oh really?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoqU1GfIOkI

Posted by: zombie at June 30, 2015 10:04 PM (jBuUi)

658 Socialist are "raging against the machine" What happens when the finally realize that they built the machine?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 10:10 PM (RQ2Z6)

659 This is why gold was, is and will always be the best true money around. It is 1) anonymous, 2) indestructible Oh really?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoqU1GfIOkI Posted by: zombie at July 01, 2015 03:04 AM (jBuUi) Isolate the coordination complex. It's an easy way to hide the gold. It is possible to get the gold back at a metal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHsPkoO4wKw

Posted by: The Chemical Hat at June 30, 2015 10:11 PM (7YlUk)

660 Socialist are "raging against the machine" What happens when the finally realize that they built the machine? Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 03:10 AM (RQ2Z6) The Jacobins could always find a noble, churchman, or counterrevolutionary to blame The Soviets could always find a Kulak to blame. The NAZIs could always find a Jew to blame. The modern Proggie will find their enemy as well...

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 30, 2015 10:12 PM (7YlUk)

661 Posted by: zombie at July 01, 2015 03:04 AM (jBuUi) The coin is dissolved but none of the gold is destroyed. Gold atoms remain gold atoms and can be recovered from any reaction. You cannot destroy gold atoms. You cannot change them into any other sort of atoms. They are and will always remain - gold atoms - and can always be recovered (usually very simply and cheaply. The only way to change atoms is by nuclear processes and, even then, we have nothing that can even approach fusing or fissioning gold. That is just way, way, way out of our capabilities. So, gold is truly indestructible and this is a very important aspect of ideal money.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 30, 2015 10:14 PM (MYSVz)

662 The only way to change atoms is by nuclear processes and, even then, we have nothing that can even approach fusing or fissioning gold. That is just way, way, way out of our capabilities. So, gold is truly indestructible and this is a very important aspect of ideal money. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 01, 2015 03:14 AM (MYSVz) Neutron Campure http://tinyurl.com/pudwjll

Posted by: The Nukular Hat at June 30, 2015 10:21 PM (7YlUk)

663 Amateur nuclear physics: neutron activation of gold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKyIm-o30GE

Posted by: The Nukular Hat at June 30, 2015 10:22 PM (7YlUk)

664 Chthulhu get it again?

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 30, 2015 10:23 PM (7YlUk)

665 Guess not.

Posted by: The Number of the Hat at June 30, 2015 10:23 PM (7YlUk)

666 I wouldn't recommend Gold or Platinum or even Silver.

Those will not have the trade value of booze or tobacco.

Learn to distill and plant some baccy.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 10:26 PM (RQ2Z6)

667 The only way to change atoms is by nuclear processes My recollection is that gold HAS been produced in larger particle accelerators, by whamming a proton (or very light nucleus, say helium) into platinum (but why?), or by poking a lead atom with a neutron ... just right. Note that this is just one atom at a time. To get 1 (one) gram, the process has to be repeated a bunch of times ...

Posted by: Arbalest at June 30, 2015 10:29 PM (FlRtG)

668 Learn to distill and plant some baccy. Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 03:26 AM (RQ2Z6) That's actually a good idea. I need to check to see if the local soil can do potatoes... If we're going full on Socialist, people won't be able to get through it sober, and we'll need all of the cheap Vodka we can get.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 30, 2015 10:33 PM (J+mig)

669 Posted by: The Nukular Hat at July 01, 2015 03:21 AM (7YlUk) Posted by: zombie at July 01, 2015 03:23 AM (jBuUi) Okay ... okay ... I was incorrect. But, I think we can all agree that gold is "effectively indestructible". basically, the point is that if you have stored your wealth in gold and your house burns down or someone blows it up, your gold survives that. Opposed to, say, ... cash stuffed in a wall when the house burns down. Yes ... if someone sneaks your gold into an accelerator you might have a problem with .0001 grams of it ... But I stand corrected on my mistake of claiming that we don't have the machinery to effect nuclear processes on gold atoms to change them. i do thank you both, as I will not make this mistake the next time I am running through my "money" rant.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 30, 2015 10:33 PM (MYSVz)

670 I wouldn't recommend Gold or Platinum or even Silver. Those will not have the trade value of booze or tobacco. Learn to distill and plant some baccy. Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 03:26 AM (RQ2Z6) Don't forget ammo. Most importantly, learn how to make primer, because that'll be the first component of ammo that will be in need.

Posted by: The Primed Hat at June 30, 2015 10:37 PM (7YlUk)

671 "Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage".....Any progtard.


Beg pardon. You built the cage. Good luck getting out.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 10:38 PM (RQ2Z6)

672 Night all. Here is "Regulator" by Clutch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4WlqxPzQ28

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 30, 2015 10:46 PM (7YlUk)

673 Whatever happened to Shiela E?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 10:49 PM (wQ7l/)

674 The link "The Longest Running Racist Organization in History" was a real eye-opener. It really crystalized something that's been in my mind for a long time. They started it, they began this war of symbolism, and war against symbols. They started this notion that feelings trump everything else... so let's fight fire with here. I'm offended, absolutely outraged that the Democratic Party still exists! It has in its time been the English-speaking world's leading advocate of slavery, the sponsor of Jim Crow laws, and the party of the KKK. It built our currently-existing welfare state and engineered it to keep minorities down, while pretending to benefit them in a shameless and cynical attempt to buy votes while destroying livelihoods. Just look up LBJ's infamous quote on the subject. So if we are to ban the Confederate battle flag from the public square, what of the symbols of the party that had an ironclad stranglehold on every state that seceded and formed it? What of the party itself? They say we need to have a dialogue on race, as if they have moral high ground? As if there is anything useful that an organization so founded upon and mired in a history of evil could teach us? They've never even apologized! If we're staying Republican, let's complete the work of Abolition that this party was founded to do. Let's abolish the Democratic party!

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 30, 2015 10:59 PM (J+mig)

675 @678

Let's not go there please.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 11:02 PM (wQ7l/)

676 Got a wordpress account?

Comment at the link in my sig all you want.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 11:07 PM (wQ7l/)

677 I've got one commenter on my site pretending to be about a half dozen commenters. All of them dead and in hell.

Sad and funny at the same time.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 11:10 PM (wQ7l/)

678 Oh lovely, a spammer.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 30, 2015 11:15 PM (b2cFu)

679 If you ever need a laugh or two, check out "dis brimstone" hells leading news paper.

You get a dead D.C. cab driver. A woman that died in the Civil War. A Gumdrop Computer. A hooved demon, and sundry others all working at a newspaper in hell.


Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 11:26 PM (6yehy)

680 Good to see that the Russians/Kos Kids/voices in your head are getting their money's worth with your comments here.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 30, 2015 11:27 PM (b2cFu)

681 TV Land has pulled Dukes of Hazard from schedule. By this reasoning,  Beverly Hillbillies has to go from reruns too, as they supported the South, and granny (IIRC) shot a USS Grant imitator.

Posted by: Baldy at June 30, 2015 11:38 PM (sEXjW)

682 Crank indeed. Posted by: A. Penguin at July 01, 2015 04:32 AM (FM5jO) Come by it honestly. I'm fairly certain you're not a hyper-evolved commenting penguin. For one thing, I'd expect one of those to have far more interesting things to say.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 30, 2015 11:40 PM (b2cFu)

683 Does this mean that PBS can never show Ken Burns Civil War stuff again without editing all images of the Confederate Flag out?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 11:41 PM (6yehy)

684 693 TV Land has pulled Dukes of Hazard from schedule. By this reasoning, Beverly Hillbillies has to go from reruns too, as they supported the South, and granny (IIRC) shot a USS Grant imitator. Posted by: Baldy at July 01, 2015 04:38 AM (sEXjW) Does that mean they'll burn all copies of Roots as well? How can the left teach about the evils of the white man and white privilege if they whitewash* all of history to being Skittle-sh*tting unicorns from the very beginning? *SWIDT?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at June 30, 2015 11:43 PM (b2cFu)

685 LoL

"whitewashing"

thats waysisst!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at June 30, 2015 11:45 PM (6yehy)

686 Did he do something to deserve the banhammer other than spam and I missed it? Too bad.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at July 01, 2015 12:11 AM (b2cFu)

687
Anything "good" in the State dept. Hillary! document drop?
Posted by: donna


Daily Mail headline:

Bombshell emails from Hillary's secret account show she didn't know when cabinet meetings were held, was dumbfounded by a fax machine and emailed aides to fetch her iced tea

There will mocking aplenty in the AM.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2015 12:24 AM (kdS6q)

688 "That's actually a good idea. I need to check to see if the local soil can do potatoes... "

Most soils can be prepped to grow about anything.  If you have a Green House you can grow tobacco even in climates that are normally to cold to do so even without electricity.

There is a lot of do it yourself info on tobacco growing to be found on the net.

I have another indispensable item growing in one of my Green Houses.
Coffee Trees. They will be three years old this coming November.

I do hope the electricity holds out a few more years. The beans are usable now but the best ones need to be at least  three years and older.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 12:25 AM (wQ7l/)

689 Rudyard Kipling: "The Female of the Species" -- http://www.potw.org/archive/potw96.html . Had to piss like a goddamned racehorse....

Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 12:26 AM (EzgxV)

690 Hey Cooth

Posted by: Romeo the cat at July 01, 2015 12:31 AM (65eq2)

691 678 @678 Let's not go there please. Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 04:02 AM (wQ7l/) I guess we didn't.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 12:31 AM (EzgxV)

692 693 Hey Cooth Posted by: Romeo the cat at July 01, 2015 05:31 AM (65eq2) Howdy, howdy!

Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 12:33 AM (EzgxV)

693 Hey cooth! We were there, for a little while. Then someone must have been feeling frisky and did away with the annoyance.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at July 01, 2015 12:38 AM (b2cFu)

694 696 Hey cooth! We were there, for a little while. Then someone must have been feeling frisky and did away with the annoyance. Posted by: Conservative Crank at July 01, 2015 05:38 AM (b2cFu) Oddly enough, I actually captured it. It is not unusual for me to run a bracket on comments -- have one tab starting at one and counting up to when I say "howdy", while I have another starting at "howdy" and keeping up with the thread. If I go off and cook dinner, I can even have three tabs going. In this case, I've actually got two comments by (FM5jO) captured in the buffer. Neither of which is terribly interesting. *release*

Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 12:46 AM (EzgxV)

695 There used to be a different post there.


Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 12:52 AM (6yehy)

696 Well it's time to check. It should have been read by now. Lets see what happens.

YeeHaw ride that bomb all the way down!


Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 12:57 AM (6yehy)

697 Horde, I am back from an overseas trip. Is donating $50 or $100 to Flynn going to make a difference now or is it too late? Oh, and welcome!

Posted by: pilot141 at July 01, 2015 12:58 AM (9XHSw)

698 698 There used to be a different post there. Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 05:52 AM (6yehy) Different from the hash I quoted? Was it interesting?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 12:58 AM (EzgxV)

699 "Different from the hash I quoted? Was it interesting?"

Nope it was the hash you quoted.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 12:59 AM (6yehy)

700 702 "Different from the hash I quoted? Was it interesting?" Nope it was the hash you quoted. Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 05:59 AM (6yehy) Was any of it interesting?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 01:00 AM (EzgxV)

701 702 "Different from the hash I quoted? Was it interesting?" Nope it was the hash you quoted. Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 05:59 AM (6yehy) Was any of it interesting?

Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 01:00 AM (EzgxV)

702 El double!

Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 01:01 AM (EzgxV)

703 Not at all.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at July 01, 2015 01:02 AM (b2cFu)

704 "Flynn going to make a difference now or is it too late?"

Could still help. A lot of campaigning is on Flynn's schedule.

Help buy radio and tv ads.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 01:02 AM (6yehy)

705 Something to do about being banned, I think.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 01:05 AM (GoyxN)

706 Thank you Tim In Illinois. I graduated High School in Illinois...back when I thought they had a good school system! OK then..here goes $100 towards Flynn!2

Posted by: pilot141 at July 01, 2015 01:09 AM (9XHSw)

707 I finally got my computer back with a detailed malware analysis. I have a lot of reading and analysis to do, but I'm going to start with the easy stuff -- I did a drive recovery for my mom that was about 1/4 of the detected issues -- none of the serious polymorphic malware that keeps downloading more modules off the internet, but extremely crufty. I also got a couple of gronks off of cnet -- used to be, that was guaranteed to be clean copies.....now totally infested. DO NOT USE.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 01:12 AM (EzgxV)

708 I'm in Flynn's district too. Havent been able to meet him yet but I have done some campaign work. Putting up signs, handing out literature, talking to folks.

I give Flynn a good shot against lahoodie.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 01, 2015 01:12 AM (GoyxN)

709 I don't grok what a gronk is, doesn't sound good though. Helpful tip to not trust cnet though, they used to be a go-to site for that stuff. I try to get all my freeware direct from the vendor sites now (Apache Open Office, etc.)

Posted by: Conservative Crank at July 01, 2015 01:17 AM (b2cFu)

710 Just realized that if Boehner and McConnell propose amending the Constitution to get rid of the 22nd Amendment, there should be enough time to get it through the state legislatures by Nov. 2016. And we can have Our Dear Leader as President forever! On that happy thought, good morning Morons of all gender and species identifications!

Posted by: Agent J at July 01, 2015 01:24 AM (ueOgE)

711 712 I don't grok what a gronk is, doesn't sound good though. Helpful tip to not trust cnet though, they used to be a go-to site for that stuff. I try to get all my freeware direct from the vendor sites now (Apache Open Office, etc.) Posted by: Conservative Crank at July 01, 2015 06:17 AM (b2cFu) That's why I'm releasing preliminaries -- I've got a bunch of research to do but there are some easy indications. If my mom wants you to help recover her "crashed" disk, it may have been loaded with enough low-level cruftware that normal recovery methods won't purge it. And cnet's handing out crap. Had to talk to mom about it. Fortunately, she's a mathematician.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 01, 2015 01:25 AM (EzgxV)

712 OK, so for Ace or whoever tracks this...and I don't really care...but another $100 drachmas in Mike Flynn's case. I hope he wins. I really DO care about that.... Also for Ace, (and this ACE should know about) me and about 10 of my closest friends read your blog religiously. We are all former military pilots, and we all seek out your site on the road and on our days off. Thank you for providing a site that we can read and get the majority of our news on our days off! Really, if I am overseas and have some shitty hotel wifi after a 12-hour flight, I am coming HERE first. Not only will I find out what happened, but I will find pithy Ewok takes on those events. Unless, of course, I land somewhere in the world that equates to "morning" in NYC. Then I am forced to walk the streets of Paris, Euros in hand, looking for a hobo to kill but still wondering when the Head Ewok will return. I tell you, it is as bad as being a "runner" in Logan's Run!

Posted by: pilot141 at July 01, 2015 01:29 AM (9XHSw)

713 Just realized that if Boehner and McConnell propose amending the Constitution to get rid of the 22nd Amendment, Kewl idea!!

Posted by: Mitch McTurtle, GOPer in a half shell at July 01, 2015 01:48 AM (+kznc)

714 Killings up 20% in Chicago this year.....
Black lives matter...

Posted by: Colin at July 01, 2015 01:58 AM (WQLtV)

715 Killings up 20% in Chicago this year.....

Damn CBF.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 01, 2015 01:59 AM (oVJmc)

716 @713, 716 If we put aside our petty differences and work together, as Americans, we can make this happen! Sen. McConnell is already onboard. John Boehner, are you with us?

Posted by: Agent J at July 01, 2015 02:00 AM (ueOgE)

717 Good morning, my fellow rape-shifters. The year is half over. Will Krispy Kreosote compromise and eat only half of Newark?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 02:02 AM (St6BJ)

718 I don't visit the place any more after doing a download and finding out that it infested the download with malware.

Posted by: Gmac - 'all politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at July 01, 2015 02:03 AM (4pjhs)

719

Firefox crash just took out 2 gigs of downloads.

F.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2015 02:04 AM (kdS6q)

720 all right, relief is here and I am out.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at July 01, 2015 02:09 AM (b2cFu)

721 Looks like another late morning thread so here goes:


Good Morning Morons.  Today is Wednesday, July 01, 2015.  On this day in 1870 U.S. Grant signed into law an act of the radical Republicans in Congress creating a new federal bureaucracy, the Department of Justice.  It immediately began growing by leaps and bounds.  Today under Obama it is a large and uncontrolled corrupt criminal empire.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:12 AM (GpgJl)

722 More information is surfacing on Blumenthal.  Evidently the Obamanites did like him and they refused to let Scankles put him on her staff.


http://fxn.ws/1Htud14

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:12 AM (GpgJl)

723 Greece has officially gone into default on its debt.


http://fxn.ws/1KrZFPA

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:12 AM (GpgJl)

724 PEW says churches are a house divided over SSM and gives some numbers.  Seeing as how PEW is a Demoncrap org I would say the numbers are probably 5 to 10 percent off toward favoribility.


http://fxn.ws/1HtoYOU

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:13 AM (GpgJl)

725 G'morning Vic - Release the news!

Posted by: Gmac - 'all politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at July 01, 2015 02:13 AM (4pjhs)

726 And speaking of that corrupt DOJ, they are also so incompetent they can't even prosecute a radical terrorist murderer.  So a federal judge has said they must turn him lose. The whole system is falling apart under Obama and his select Attorney Generals who are more interested in communist social justice than they are prosecuting criminals.


http://fxn.ws/1ILKM54

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:13 AM (GpgJl)

727 And speaking of social justice the political pope has issued the itinerary for his US visit.


Pope Francis will meet with homeless people, immigrants and prisoners during his upcoming trip to Cuba and the United States


I am sure we will hear some more after this "visit".


http://bit.ly/1Hwsg60

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:13 AM (GpgJl)

728 The New York Department of Corrections said Tuesday that three members of the Clinton Correctional Facility's Executive Team and nine security employees were placed on administrative leave as investigators continue to examine how two convicted killers managed to escape the prison earlier this month.


How about put some politicians on leave too for eliminating the death penalty.  That would have fixed this entire mess before it happened.


http://fxn.ws/1R3a1JT

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:14 AM (GpgJl)

729 . . . with the Fourth of July busy season bearing down, the <fireworks>  industry says it still has one big problem: President Barack Obama's administration.


Whether it be duplicative safety rules on the fireworks themselves or requirements that truckers limit their weekly time on the road, the makers, marketers and distributors of pyrotechnics complain that Obama's regulators are completely insane by forcing so many standards on an industry that's as much a part of a patriotic summer as baseball and apple pie.


Officials at the Consumer Product Safety Commission counter that the fireworks industry is still operating in a danger zone. Data released last Friday counted 11 fatalities and more than 10,000 injuries from fireworks in 2014.



Gee how awful. 11 fatalities and 10K injuries in a country with over 300 million people.  And it would be interesting to see how they arrived at those figures.  I do not trust any numbers at all that come out from these assholes.  When I was a kid you could readily buy "real" fireworks.  Those are long gone now.  We have become a nation of pussies ruled by nannies and communists.


http://politi.co/1duKmHf

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:14 AM (GpgJl)

730 Black flash mob "thugs" storm a Walmart in Macon, GA destroying merchandise and generally acting like criminal thugs gone insane. Until these people start getting more than a wrist tap from authorities this shit will get worse.


http://bit.ly/1BX8nCp

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:15 AM (GpgJl)

731 Taxpayer funded university in KS balks at paying Scankles $275,000 for her canned 30 minute political PR scam so they give her daughter $65,000 for a 10 minute political scam instead.  They were looking for a celebrity.  They did not get one.


http://wapo.st/1JnTB7O

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:15 AM (GpgJl)

732 Obama continues to defy that federal judge who ordered a halt to his illegal executive amnesties. Why isn't someone high up in jail for contempt of court?


http://bit.ly/1RS3Z9W

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:15 AM (GpgJl)

733 Here is a breakdown of all of those "black" church fires that the SJWs are calling hate crimes in the south.


http://bit.ly/1Jtcm9V

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:15 AM (GpgJl)

734 As expected, our corrupt DOJ accuses Ferguson authorities for the riots caused by out of town communist agitators from Oakland and Chicago.


http://bit.ly/1GM16Bh

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:16 AM (GpgJl)

735 And speaking of black anarcho-commies a group of them plan to burn American flags in a NYC park just before July 4th.


http://bit.ly/1IsaOhG

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:16 AM (GpgJl)

736 The Kerry/Obama team kiss Iran's ass yet again in an effort to get a "bad" deal.


http://bit.ly/1HwtUEH

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:16 AM (GpgJl)

737 In an op-ed at the Washington Post, deputy legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) Louise Melling writes that the organization will no longer defend the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA).


I don't recall seeing any case where they defended it in the first place and I go through more than a dozen news sites everyday.


http://bit.ly/1eYXMNy

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:16 AM (GpgJl)

738 "Hey, do you think anyone will be fired over the OPM debacle?"

Only if they can find somebody remotely responsible that also opposes gay marriage. Then heads will roll!

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at July 01, 2015 02:16 AM (1BQGO)

739 As expected, the first of the Gaystapo lawsuits have started in TX.


http://bit.ly/1T4Ti6p

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:17 AM (GpgJl)

740 BB reminds people that the Fat Man has always been a gun grabber despite his campaign rhetoric.


http://bit.ly/1C8fLeB

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:17 AM (GpgJl)

741 Obama's regulators are completely insane by forcing so many standards on an industry that's as much a part of a patriotic summer as baseball and apple pie.

Of course.  That's what bothers them.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 01, 2015 02:17 AM (oVJmc)

742 Muzzie savages (Boko Haram) in Nigeria force kidnapped schoolgirls to slit Christian's throats.  MFM is silent.



http://bit.ly/1U5vwsl

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:17 AM (GpgJl)

743 NY and NJ are the least patriotic States in the union.  As expected, in general blue States rank the lowest and red States at the highest.


http://bit.ly/1IMKjQ4

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:17 AM (GpgJl)

744 Wow; newspapers are finally taking note that Scankles lied to congress (which is a felony BTW).


http://washex.am/1LCqhwN

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:18 AM (GpgJl)

745 22 States have filed suit against the EPA's third illegal power grab via expanded water rules.  SCOTUS has shot them down on this twice before.  On the third time should someone like that fugly boss go to jail for contempt of court and be forced to pay legal costs out of their own pockets?  So far there has been NOTHING to hinder these lawless assholes because they are never held accountable.


http://washex.am/1Kqlw8J

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:18 AM (GpgJl)

746 Bobby Jindal: Religious Liberty Created the United States of America


Sorry Bobby, that is a myth created by shallow teaching of history in the public schools.  All those initial colonies in the NE that were founded by religious sects were not founded for freedom of religion.  They were founded so that they could have their own preferred religion as the government.  (Note SC was an economic founding by the Lord Proprietors and they did invite multiple religions, but it was for pure economic reasons).


http://dailysign.al/1LHopUr

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:18 AM (GpgJl)

747 IBD joins the list of people exposing the gas tax increase lies and myths.  But the bad thing is very few people will see this and the major news orgs, like the politicians pushing this crap, are all for any tax increase.


http://bit.ly/1NuNXSS

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:18 AM (GpgJl)

748 The Daily Deals


http://amzn.to/1Isgete


That's it for today folks.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:19 AM (GpgJl)

749 Black thugs storm a Walmart in Macon... Southern "culture" on display Vic.

Posted by: f'd at July 01, 2015 02:19 AM (BO/km)

750 Here is a breakdown of all of those "black" church fires that the SJWs are calling hate crimes in the south.

Who's to say it isn't gay marriage supporters?  They've been threatening churches will all sorts of things.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 01, 2015 02:20 AM (oVJmc)

751 I think I'm late and it turns out I arrive just in time for Vic's Views and News. Yay. Overnight Morning, Glories!

Posted by: mindful webworker - not yet caffeinated at July 01, 2015 02:22 AM (PWDHh)

752 738 And speaking of black anarcho-commies a group of them plan to burn American flags in a NYC park just before July 4th. http://bit.ly/1IsaOhG Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 07:16 AM (GpgJl) If I knew I could gather a few hundred decent Americans, and not get my ass shot off, I'd like to see a massive counter-protest. Remember Rick Monday's rescue of the Stars and Stripes on July 4th 1976? Then again, I'm in NYC, which is Ramallah on the Hudson.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 02:23 AM (St6BJ)

753 Ugh! I can't even read anything at the Washington Times through the bukkake of popup ads.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 01, 2015 02:24 AM (O7MnT)

754 756 Ugh! I can't even read anything at the Washington Times through the bukkake of popup ads. Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 01, 2015 07:24 AM (O7MnT) Breitbart and NRO and too many of the others are doing this shit too.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 02:25 AM (St6BJ)

755 Her leg was starting to go numb for she couldn't stay in that position too long. It was time to figure out how to get out of the trunk. Bracing herself against the backseat she used all her strength to kick the trunk. Nothing. How was she going to get out? Would she ever see an early morning thread again?

Posted by: Ruth at July 01, 2015 02:25 AM (oo88B)

756 Apparently, the Choom Gang plans to announce today its intention to reopen an embassy in Coo-ba. And, of course, welcome a Cuban embassy to D.C.

How conveniently we forget the post-1959 history of Our Caribbean Neighbor! And of course we -- as in the Mocha Messiah -- forget that it has only been a matter of days since the Coo-bans told us to go pound cigars rather than expect the return of a wanted Terrorist of Color (Black Panther) hiding out in that tropical paradise.

Oh, well. Just another day in the life of President Historic First©!

Posted by: MrScribbler[/i] at July 01, 2015 02:26 AM (P8YHq)

757 Breitbart and NRO and too many of the others are doing this shit too. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 07:25 AM

Tepid Air, too. Just another reason among so many to avoid those sites....

Posted by: MrScribbler[/i] at July 01, 2015 02:28 AM (P8YHq)

758 President Histrionic Fistula.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 02:29 AM (St6BJ)

759 The popup blocker and script block I use with Pale Moon kills all those.  Right now the only site that gives me trouble is The Daily Caller front page.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:32 AM (GpgJl)

760 it has only been a matter of days since the Coo-bans told us to go pound cigars rather than expect the return of a wanted Terrorist of Color (Black Panther) hiding out in that tropical paradise.

She'll have to wait for the last-minute Presidential pardon.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 01, 2015 02:32 AM (oVJmc)

761 Drinking sugary beverages such as sodas and fruit drinks may lead to 184,000 deaths each year worldwide,

this story is just an example of the press just grabbing a story off AP and using it.  Note:  "Worldwide" and the word "May" is in the article....

Posted by: Colin at July 01, 2015 02:33 AM (WQLtV)

762 @719 The GOPe would like to overturn the 22nd Amendment, but, _JOHN BOEHNER_ we need your help! Will you be part of this historic bipartisan effort, _JOHN BOEHNER_?

Posted by: GOPe Appeal Letter at July 01, 2015 02:33 AM (ueOgE)

763 >>If I knew I could gather a few hundred decent Americans, and not get my ass shot off, I'd like to see a massive counter-protest. Remember Rick Monday's rescue of the Stars and Stripes on July 4th 1976? A couple towns here are doing some sort of confederate flag thing Sunday maybe? Not that I would attend such an Event. Now to read the church fire breakdown

Posted by: Lea at July 01, 2015 02:35 AM (vmMMi)

764 J.J. Sefton, Use AdBlock. It works and -- it's FREE!

Posted by: RickZ at July 01, 2015 02:35 AM (YAPNU)

765 Obama continues to defy that federal judge who ordered a halt to his illegal executive amnesties. Why isn't someone high up in jail for contempt of court?


http://bit.ly/1RS3Z9W

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 07:15 AM (GpgJl)



But never a mention of an imperial presidency from Prezzy Choom's pals in the MFM

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 01, 2015 02:37 AM (DiZBp)

766 First!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at July 01, 2015 02:39 AM (MYPM9)

767 As expected, our corrupt DOJ accuses Ferguson authorities for the riots caused by out of town communist agitators from Oakland and Chicago.


http://bit.ly/1GM16Bh

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 07:16 AM (GpgJl)



In BarryLand it's always whitey's fault

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 01, 2015 02:40 AM (DiZBp)

768 I have Ad Block at home. (Pale Moon still chokes on Flash vids though.) (Now there's a sentence that would have been baffling a decade ago.) But at work all I have is MIE.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 01, 2015 02:40 AM (O7MnT)

769 764 Drinking sugary beverages such as sodas and fruit drinks may lead to 184,000 deaths each year worldwide, this story is just an example of the press just grabbing a story off AP and using it. Note: "Worldwide" and the word "May" is in the article.... Posted by: Colin at July 01, 2015 07:33 AM (WQLtV) Showing you ankles or a Magen David or crucifix WILL lead to a hell of a lot more deaths than that.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 02:40 AM (St6BJ)

770 Good morning Fap Nation. My long weekend has begun. Heading out to the airport in a bit. Hopefully ISIS chatter about "Bloody Friday" will remain that.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 01, 2015 02:41 AM (jR7Wy)

771 USN is cutting back on missile defense capabilities because no $$. Yeah, this seems like a good time to be cutting back, since Obama has made the world so much safer. http://breakingdefense.com/2015/06/ aegis-ambivalence-navy-hill-grapple-over-missile-defense-mission/

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 01, 2015 02:43 AM (O7MnT)

772 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 01, 2015 02:48 AM (ZQfW9)

773 Vic: ...Gee how awful. 11 fatalities and 10K injuries in a country with over 300 million people. And it would be interesting to see how they arrived at those figures.... Every little owie is important to your Big Brother. ___ Every summer in my youth, we partied out here at the ranch, but especially on the 4th. Lots of friends and relatives, swimming, picnicking and, of course, shooting off tons of fireworks, ending with a modest but fun pro show at night. I know of three injuries in all those years. One, some friend of a friend, unclear on the rules everyone else knew, threw a Black Cat at my back. Stung a little. Ruined my t-shirt. I mighta been nine. Made me mad. Two, despite our father's repeated and explicit instructions and warnings about how to handle fireworks, my oldest brother had to go to the hospital one year when the roman candle he was holding in his hands exploded. Providing a fine lesson for all the rest of us. See? It does happen! Three, the one year I got to go sit out by the Big Fireworks launch area. My older brothers decided to end the show with a double big bang. Problem was, the big bang fireworks fit in the small mortar. No problem, they decided, we'll use the big mortar anyway. (You see where this is going.) Firework in the correct pipe went up and went boom high in the sky, as intended. Firework in the wrong pipe went up, went back down, and went boom right in front of me, knocking me off the tailgate of Papa's station wagon and deafening and blinding me for quite a while. Spectacular! Accidents happen. More often, they're Carelessnesses. If not outright Knew-Better Stupids. This is not necessarily a bad thing. Americans should revere the right to allow Darwinism to be in effect with fireworks.

Posted by: mindful webworker - celebrating liberty at July 01, 2015 02:48 AM (PWDHh)

774 My long weekend has begun. Heading out to the airport in a bit. Hopefully ISIS chatter about "Bloody Friday" will remain that.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at July 01, 2015 07:41 AM (jR7Wy)




If anything happens, one thing is for sure. It won't be Prezzy Choom's fault

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 01, 2015 02:49 AM (DiZBp)

775 771 I have Ad Block at home. (Pale Moon still chokes on Flash vids though.) (Now there's a sentence that would have been baffling a decade ago.) But at work all I have is MIE.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 01, 2015 07:40 AM (O7MnT)


You need noscript for that, noscript also keep you from getting hit by a lot of viruses that hacker use imebeded script in ads to get you.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:49 AM (GpgJl)

776 NASA looking to flying cars to address California's traffic problems. http://aviationweek.com/technology/ nasa-studies-solutions-silicon-valley-s-traffic-gridlock It seems like telecommuting and fixing the damn infrastructure would work better and faster, but whatever.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 01, 2015 02:50 AM (O7MnT)

777 Greek Euros and Gresham's Law should be good for a laugh or two.

Posted by: Tmitsss at July 01, 2015 02:50 AM (Pa9vP)

778 Vic, UMKC is in Missouri, not Kansas.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 01, 2015 02:51 AM (baR5c)

779 781  Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at July 01, 2015 07:51 AM (baR5c)


Foolish me, thought Kansas City was in Kansas.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 02:52 AM (GpgJl)

780
You need noscript for that, noscript also keep you from getting hit by a lot of viruses that hacker use imebeded script in ads to get you.
Posted by: Vic



Also, having flash installed is another pretty major vuln.

I left it off my new install and haven't felt the loss. The major video sites like Youtube now are HTML5 capable, so the work fine.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2015 02:54 AM (kdS6q)

781
UMKC is in Missouri, not Kansas.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo




Same thing.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2015 02:55 AM (kdS6q)

782 Foolish me, thought Kansas City was in Kansas. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 07:52 AM

It is.

Unless you're talking about Kansas City, Mizzoora.

Hell, there might be a "Kansas City" in Hawai'i, too, for all I know.

Posted by: MrScribbler[/i] at July 01, 2015 02:55 AM (P8YHq)

783 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 07:52 AM (GpgJl)

East New York is in New York.

West New York is in New Jersey.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 01, 2015 02:57 AM (Zu3d9)

784 Happy Canada Day to our neighbors to the north.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E064kb3UnU

Posted by: GGE of the Night Shift Horde, NC Chapter at July 01, 2015 02:57 AM (UQGss)

785 A glimpse at Hillary Clinton's emails, from celebrities to politicians







And the Washington Post's take on Hillary's emails make her sound like a giddy school girl. Oh what wide eyed fun little Hillary was having

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 01, 2015 02:57 AM (DiZBp)

786 786 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2015 07:52 AM (GpgJl) East New York is in New York. West New York is in New Jersey. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 01, 2015 07:57 AM (Zu3d9) East New York is in Brooklyn, but that's a vestige of when Brooklyn was its own city. I think.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 02:58 AM (St6BJ)

787 I'm used to the locker-room smell and the piles of cans and ashtrays full of cigar butts on a late-running ONT, but this thick brown goo on the floor is... unusual. It's alive!

Posted by: mindful webworker - gripe gripe gripe at July 01, 2015 02:59 AM (PWDHh)

788 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2015 07:54 AM (kdS6q)



Running Pale Moon current version, but I could not get an HTML5 player to work. How did you do it?

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at July 01, 2015 02:59 AM (ftVQq)

789 "Raise your hand", an "Our Daily Bread" devotional: http://odb.org

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 01, 2015 03:01 AM (OSs/l)

790 Ties among Anglicans have been strained since Episcopalians in 2003 elected Bishop Gene Robinson, who lived openly with his male partner.

Robinson said there was a carnival-like mood throughout the Episcopal Church convention last week after the Supreme Court ruling. He said all religions will be under more pressure now to get in lockstep with society.




Ah yes, because religion has always been about getting in lockstep with society. So if ISIS took over the country would Gene think we need to be in lockstep with society?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 01, 2015 03:01 AM (DiZBp)

791 this story is just an example of the press just grabbing a story off AP and using it. Note: "Worldwide" and the word "May" is in the article....

And if you read the whole thing, the "researchers" just picked a random percentage of people with diabetes who died in ways not attributable to other factors.  And Teh Diabeetus is not caused solely by sodas.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 01, 2015 03:02 AM (ZKzrr)

792 Ah yes, because religion has always been about getting in lockstep with society. So if ISIS took over the country would Gene think we need to be in lockstep with society?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 01, 2015 08:01 AM (DiZBp)



GOPe: Hey, it's the "settled" religion of the land, so...

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at July 01, 2015 03:04 AM (ftVQq)

793 And Hoosiers can now legally buy a sawed-off shotgun.
http://is.gd/VLgbbA

I'm not mentioning this for any particular reason.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 01, 2015 03:05 AM (ZKzrr)

794 He said all religions will be under more pressure now to get in lockstep with society.

Greatest proof yet that he shouldn't be in leadership of ANY faith.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 01, 2015 03:06 AM (oVJmc)

795 Cobs sleeping in this morning, eh?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t [/i][/s][/b][/u] at July 01, 2015 03:07 AM (eEb+d)

796
Running Pale Moon current version, but I could not get an HTML5 player to work. How did you do it?
Posted by: Hrothgar



Youtube will autodetect an HTML5 compliant browser and default to that automatically. Pale Moon doesn't appear on the supported browser list.

You can, however you can force* a browser to use HTML5 player thus:

https://www.youtube.com/html5

*e-rape

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2015 03:07 AM (kdS6q)

797 East New York is in New York. West New York is in New Jersey. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 01, 2015 07:57 AM ________ "... born and raised in South Detroit ... " South Detroit is in Canada.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 01, 2015 03:09 AM (2i2aE)

798 Is it hard to set an auto post for an open morning thread? Not being snarky, have no blog knowledge. And morning horde. Happy Friday!!!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at July 01, 2015 03:09 AM (sefcY)

799 Watching CNBC - They're saying that Ace just bought Chubb.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 01, 2015 03:10 AM (2i2aE)

800 South Detroit is in Canada. Upper Sandusky, OH is south of Sandusky, OH.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t [/i][/s][/b][/u] at July 01, 2015 03:10 AM (eEb+d)

801 Ah yes, because religion has always been about getting in lockstep with society. Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 01, 2015 08:01 AM (DiZBp) Yeah, I somehow missed that in the NT. "And Jesus said, 'Get in lockstop with Ceasar, because the most important Commandment is Thou Shalt Be Cool." God knows, with Pope Francis at the helm, Catholics don't have much to brag about - but the Pisky leadership is completely useless and has been for some time.

Posted by: Donna &&&&&& V. (brandishing ampersands) at July 01, 2015 03:13 AM (+XMAD)

802 Lots of ISIS cells in this country. Thank you Obama!

Posted by: Mrs. Ace of Spades with a Wang! at July 01, 2015 03:14 AM (iQIUe)

803 #WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this sh1t [/i][/s][/b][/u] at July 01, 2015 03:15 AM (eEb+d)

804 "Upper Sandusky, OH is south of Sandusky, OH." Is it at least higher in elevation? (BTW, North Hudson, NY is indeed north of Hudson, NY but it's 130 miles away.)

Posted by: FireHorse at July 01, 2015 03:17 AM (2i2aE)

805 Beloit is in Wisconsin. South Beloit is in Hell.

Posted by: mindful webworker - BC dropout at July 01, 2015 03:17 AM (PWDHh)

806 #WASTF #DUH

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at July 01, 2015 03:18 AM (2hlqN)

807 Something about cultural appropriation, I don't know.
http://is.gd/VC4Yy7

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at July 01, 2015 03:19 AM (ZKzrr)

808 The progressive left is angry at Bobby Jindal for acting white. "What is it with these uppity brown people, thinking they're as good as white folk?" - Libs http://tinyurl.com/ok7lhbt

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at July 01, 2015 03:22 AM (O7MnT)

809 Last day of the workweek until next Wednesday. Taking wife to Choctaw Casino for her birthday tonight, laying low until Sunday, then going to a cabin at Broken Bow Lake in Oklahoma.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at July 01, 2015 03:23 AM (2hlqN)

810 "South Beloit is in Hell." Hell is in Michigan. It's east of Eden.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 01, 2015 03:23 AM (2i2aE)

811 NOOD! CORGIS!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 01, 2015 03:24 AM (St6BJ)

812 The progressive left is angry at Bobby Jindal for acting white. "What is it with these uppity brown people, thinking they're as good as white folk?" - Libs

Indians upset their worldview.  Brown skin is supposed to mean what lefties believe it means.

Independent, successful people with brown skin belie the cultural Marxism of herd mentality.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 01, 2015 03:28 AM (oVJmc)

813 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at July 01, 2015 08:07 AM (kdS6q) I already tried that but no joy; however , I will tinker some more! Thanks H

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at July 01, 2015 03:29 AM (ftVQq)

814 Independent, successful people with brown skin belie the cultural Marxism of herd mentality. Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at July 01, 2015 08:28 AM (oVJmc) Simply CANNOT have anyone just walking off the plantation, now can we! After all, it might give some others in the herd the idea that "individual" success is actually an option!

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at July 01, 2015 03:31 AM (ftVQq)

815 807 "Upper Sandusky, OH is south of Sandusky, OH." Is it at least higher in elevation? (BTW, North Hudson, NY is indeed north of Hudson, NY but it's 130 miles away.) Posted by: FireHorse at July 01, 2015 08:17 AM (2i2aE) In case no one else explained it (and anyone else cares): Both towns are located on the Sandusky River, which flows South to North into Lake Erie (most OH rivers flow north to south to the OH River basin). Even though Sandusky is north of Upper Sandusky, Upper Sandusky is located upstream of Sandusky and therefore received the "upper" designation. Upper Sandusky was also the site of the Wyandot Indian reservation.

Posted by: 1bulwetweft at July 01, 2015 03:39 AM (nqiq9)

816 I was born in Wyandotte Michigan (same place as Lee Majors)

Posted by: Ruth at July 01, 2015 03:44 AM (oo88B)

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