May 30, 2012

Overnight Open Thread (5-30-2012)
— Maetenloch

The Jenny McCarthy Body Count

I kinda feel bad about this post since Jenny McCarthy seems to be a well-meaning, compassionate albeit not particularly bright person who thought she was helping - but alas such people can still end up doing incredible harm to others.

One of the greatest achievements of modern technology is that we have been able to defeat the infectious diseases that routinely killed most children throughout history. Huge amounts of money and years and years of dedicated, patient work by scientists and doctors went into this project so that parents wouldn't have to suffer the heartbreak of burying half of all their children - a regular occurrence up until the last century or so.

And for a few brief years we achieved this. But it turns out that a well-meaning blonde B-list celebrity and her activism could undo much of this work in only a few years.

In June 2007 Jenny McCarthy began promoting anti-vaccination rhetoric. Because of her celebrity status she has appeared on several television shows and has published multiple books advising parents not to vaccinate their children. This has led to an increase in the number of vaccine preventable illnesses as well as an increase in the number of vaccine preventable deaths.

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Now vaccines are not perfectly safe but they do save a quantifiable number of children's lives every year. So it would be foolish to give up a known life-saving good for a unproven benefit based on a celebrity mother's 'strong feelings' who also happens to believe that she's an indigo child and her son is a crystal. Yet here we are.

Oh and you can thank the backward Islamists of Afghanistan and Pakistan for why mankind is still plagued by polio, the great killer and crippler of children, despite a safe and effective vaccine being available for over 50 years.

Some Classic PJ O'Rourke on Europe

I was having dinner.in London.when eventually he got, as the Europeans always do, to the part about "Your country's never been invaded." And so I said, "let me tell you who those bad guys are. They're us. WE BE BAD. We're the baddest-assed sons of bitches that ever jogged in Reeboks. We're three-quarters grizzly bear and two-thirds car wreck and descended from a stock market crash on our mother's side. You take your Germany, France, and Spain, roll them all together and it wouldn't give us room to park our cars. We're the big boys, Jack, the original, giant, economy-sized, new and improved butt kickers of all time. When we snort coke in Houston, people lose their hats in Cap d'Antibes. And we've got an American Express card credit limit higher than your piss-ant metric numbers go. You say our country's never been invaded? You're right, little buddy. Because I'd like to see the needle-dicked foreigners who'd have the guts to try. We drink napalm to get our hearts started in the morning. A rape and a mugging is our way of saying 'Cheerio.' Hell can't hold our sock-hops. We walk taller, talk louder, spit further, fuck longer and buy more things than you know the names of. I'd rather be a junkie in a New York City jail than king, queen, and jack of all Europeans. We eat little countries like this for breakfast and shit them out before lunch."

Of course, this guy should have punched me. But this was Europe. He just smiled his shabby, superior European smile. (God, don't these people have dentists?)

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The Rock That Can Spy on You for Decades

Once the stuff of science fiction ubiquitous hidden sensors are reality for the military in Afghanistan:

Palm-sized sensors, developed for the American military, will remain littered across the Afghan countryside - detecting anyone who moves nearby and reporting their locations back to a remote headquarters. Some of these surveillance tools could be buried in the ground, all-but-unnoticeable by passersby. Others might be disguised as rocks, with wafer-sized, solar-rechargeable batteries that could enable the sensors' operation for perhaps as long as two decades, if their makers are to be believed.

..Even more sophisticated are the UGSs being tested northeast of Norfolk, Virginia, at a Lockheed proving ground. Arrays of up to 50 palm-sized acoustic and seismic sensors form a mesh network. When one sensor detects a person or a vehicle passing by, it uses unlicensed radio frequency bands to pass an alert from one node to the next. The alert finally hits a communications gateway, which can send the signal via satellite, tactical radio network, or Wi-Fi to a command and control center.

I was peripherally involved in a similar project involving cameras and all I can say is that with modern electronics and super-low duty cycles you'd be amazed at what is possible.

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The Economic Reality of a Restaurant

Clearly they're just a means of using the hunger of the 99% in order to make an 'unfair' profit.

Your margins are three times your cost on everything. Some things you make more, some things you make less. You have loss leaders on the menu-veal chops and steak might cost you 50 percent of the ticket price on the menu. Pasta and salad you can run closer to 15, just as long as everything works out to 30 percent.

Bells and whistles like appetizers and desserts bring down the cost. Desserts are almost pure profit. Wine by the glass is usually marked up four times, although we don't always do that. At Babbo we get about three times cost for a quartino, or sometimes even two times, so our wine cost is 30 to 50 percent.

Thirty percent of your monthly take is going to be your food and wine cost. Thirty percent is going to be labor, 20 percent is miscellaneous, including the rent, and 20 percent is your profit. Your rent per month should be your gross take on your slowest day.

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4 Degrees With 0% Unemployment

Bette Wiebke
Majored in Actuarial Science, Class of `12
Drake University

This weekend, I graduated with my bachelor's in actuarial science. I've already had a job lined up since September, and I would say the same is true for the majority of my classmates, who have also had job offers for a long time.
I'll be working at Travelers Insurance in St. Paul, Minn., in their property and casualty business.
Overall, 0% unemployment in our field may be a bit of an overstatement. I know a couple students who haven't decided what they're doing yet.

Should College Football Be Banned?

Well a few weeks ago a debate on this proposition was held between Buzz Bissinger and Malcolm Gladwell on the pro-ban side and Tim Green and Jason Whitlock on the anti-ban side.

The debate held poetry: Both Whitlock and Green, former players, offered up misty testaments to their time on the field. "College football is the Statue of Liberty," claimed Whitlock early on, yoking the game to ideals of diversity and tolerance. He argued that football unlocks the American dream for disadvantaged youth-and that his own career profited from the sport's lessons of cooperation. There was passion as well, courtesy of Bissinger, who raged about what he considered the modern college student's diminished academic experience. And there was pain. Malcolm Gladwell's descriptions of CTE-positive head scans-"it looks like someone drove a truck across their brain"-hit hard, especially in light of the NCAA's decision not to compensate college players.

But in the end the proposition to end college football was passed:

After a spirited battle, Bissinger and Gladwell were clear victors, capturing 53 percent of the final vote to Green and Whitlock's 39 percent. Eight percent left the auditorium undecided. The numbers revealed a remarkable about-face: Before the debate started, only 16 percent of the crowd supported the motion, 53 percent opposed it, and 31 percent weren't sure.

When Skydiving Goes Wrong

An 80 year old woman decides to go skydiving  but as she tandem jumps with her instructor, she starts slipping out of the harness. Oh and contrary to earlier reports she wasn't refusing to jump at the beginning - her leg had gotten stuck and was hurting her.

Reason #38 why you won't see me jumping out of a still functional airplane.

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1 Obama is a Stutering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure...

Posted by: KZnextzone at May 30, 2012 05:38 PM (UXEgP)

2 Jenny is the new Einsten 


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Posted by: Gertrude Stein at May 30, 2012 05:38 PM (Dll6b)

3 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 30, 2012 05:38 PM (JMmQ9)

4 No way I'm first.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at May 30, 2012 05:39 PM (nUY/O)

5 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at May 30, 2012 05:40 PM (7W3wI)

6 Love that PJ O'Rourke stuff.

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at May 30, 2012 05:40 PM (nUY/O)

7 P J O'Rourke should be, like, Asst Sec of State for Something



Posted by: SantaRosaStan, crypto clearance intact at May 30, 2012 05:41 PM (Dll6b)

8 This is for pixie or who/whatever makes this here smart military blog run... 1) Isn't this here "New Comments Thingy" really the "Old & Musty, & Kinda Rancid Comments Thingy" by now? Which is why I comment so infrequently. That, and because my mom only lets me use the computer for 30 minutes a day (but I have a little more time today because she's out* with her new boyfriend).  I mean, the Gee Whiz phase of commentable blogs passed way back before... 2) ...AoSHQ got that Weblog Award. How long is that thing going to occupy the coveted upper right corner? Sheesh, Ace got that award around the same time mom's new boyfriend graduated from high school, and people started calling "weblogs" just "blogs". As a wizened old crone once asked: http://tinyurl.com/yfrj44w . Time to put that trophy in the garage sale box. 3) You know what I like about AoSHQ? That "Recent Entries" listing on the home page. What do I hate? That it's on the home page where you don't need it (scrolling, anyone?), and not on the "New Comments Thingy" pages, where it would really come in handy.  I hate having to go back to the home page, with that hackneyed Weblog Award doodad, just to get to another post. 4) In my opinion, I think "Top Headlines" is a little bit needlessly redundant, to some extent.** That's all, for now... * and by "out" I mean, in the next room. Why oh WHY couldn't we get a double-wide?! ** a slightly used 2007 Weblog Awards trophy will be given*** to the first moron who can identify the correct number of redundancies in that sentence. *** not really.

Posted by: Average Guy at May 30, 2012 05:41 PM (K/ZUs)

9 Has Jenny McCarthy taken any of these horrid vaccines she's railing about? Self-loathing, perhaps? Anyway, Mayor Bloomberg is taking NYC further along the path of nanny-statism: *apologies - NYT link* New York Plans to Ban Sale of Big Sizes of Sugary Drinks http://tinyurl.com/73ldlf6

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 30, 2012 05:41 PM (uB19f)

10 Jenny,

Remind me of the last time we had a plague?


Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 30, 2012 05:41 PM (61yvg)

11 Dear God, it's been nearly six years since the tank?  Hell, was thinking about the fights about the permanent Republican majority and then realized that was in 2004.  I have been hanging around you group of windowlicking degenerates far too long.  *clings*  Never leave me!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at May 30, 2012 05:41 PM (Gk3SS)

12 Maet!!  Glad you finally made bail, buddy.

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 05:41 PM (kpCLl)

13

Blaming Jenny McCarthy for the anti-vaccine movement sounds a little retarded. She's not that big of a celebrity. She's not Oprah.

Posted by: JustLikeDavidHasselhoff at May 30, 2012 05:42 PM (WYTHl)

14 Just when you thought it was safe to buy a pet rock, the come up with fucking rocks that spy on you.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 30, 2012 05:42 PM (kmwef)

15 Where is everybody?

Posted by: Enrico Fermi at May 30, 2012 05:42 PM (rEbge)

16 Jenny,

My dad who survived Polio says: "fuck you".  Do you even know what Polio is?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 30, 2012 05:42 PM (61yvg)

17
laredo cigarette rolling machine

Posted by: sTevo at May 30, 2012 05:42 PM (F11f6)

18 >>>Blaming Jenny McCarthy for the anti-vaccine movement sounds a little retarded. She's not that big of a celebrity. She's not Oprah. We beg to differ.

Posted by: Fapping morons on the Interwebs at May 30, 2012 05:43 PM (uB19f)

19 I wonder what Ms. McCarthy thinks about the recent data suggesting a link between pregnant women gaining too much weight and autism?

I believe Ms. McCarthy put on something like 70 lbs during her pregnancy.

Of course, the two may, in the end, be totally unrelated, but what if her own behavior is what caused it?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 05:43 PM (piMMO)

20 >>>My dad who survived Polio says: "fuck you". Do you even know what Polio is? It's, like, that sport you play in water on a horse, right?

Posted by: Jenny "The Brain" McCarthy at May 30, 2012 05:44 PM (uB19f)

21 Thank God Maet was saved from those bastard McCoys.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 05:44 PM (Fy6L7)

22 I gots me one Jenny McCarthy centerfold pic.  New in box.  Original staple holes.

Offers?

Keep in mind it was back in the day when pubic hair wasn't thought of as nasty.

Posted by: TheLittlShiningMan at May 30, 2012 05:45 PM (PH+2B)

23 Kevin Smith's younger brother ( with better hair ) ??

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, crypto clearance intact at May 30, 2012 05:45 PM (Dll6b)

24 The left's "problem" with issues like childhood vaccinations is their never ending search for the perfect.  They like to speak of the greater good, but in practice they bemoan the loss of any single child (I do not mean to diminish that loss to the family in any way).  It matters not that a huge number of children either are not afflicted or survive the preventable diseases, only that *some* do not!  Logic does not exist in lib land.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at May 30, 2012 05:45 PM (7yvLv)

25 Holy shit!

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 30, 2012 05:46 PM (61yvg)

26 A.  My man crushes in order:  1.  Jack Nickalus.  2.  P.J. O'Rourke
Recall the days after 9/11 and the rest of the world was certain that we were going to go just as apeshit as P.J. describes it there.

B.  If you recall the tremendous photoshopping that went on with the old Arab woman who showed up in all those Reuters photos, thou art an original moron.  Like me.  I have the decoder ring and everything.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 05:46 PM (+yTME)

27 Jenny McCarthy is a menace to society and an ignorant bint. Do us all a favor and STFU.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 05:46 PM (Fy6L7)

28 McCarthy wasn't that big but she was popular with new mothers having just published a book on motherhood.The big shows booked her and gave her credence.

Posted by: steevy at May 30, 2012 05:46 PM (7W3wI)

29 I'm rather amazed no ambitious personal-injury lawyer hasn't tried to bring a class-action suit against Ms. McCarthy on behalf of every human being on Earth.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 30, 2012 05:46 PM (rEbge)

30 btw, Jenny McCarthy is no Shannon Tweed, . This needed to be said.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 30, 2012 05:46 PM (uB19f)

31 Evening y'all, Why would anyone listen to Jenny McCarthy for child rearing advice? Are there people so stupid that they think a playboy bimbo who thought it was a great joke to fart and pick her nose is the go-to for medical knowledge? Dear sweet tea, the apocalypse really is nigh.

Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 05:47 PM (dZmFh)

32 B. If you recall the tremendous photoshopping that went on with the old Arab woman who showed up in all those Reuters photos, thou art an original moron


I remember those.  And weren't there also the Magic Mystery stuffed animals?



No lie, Jenny McCarthy was just in an ad on my tv. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at May 30, 2012 05:47 PM (Gk3SS)

33 hi all
man I used to like Malcolm Gladwell's books, it's sad to see him sink to such a level

Posted by: chemjeff at May 30, 2012 05:47 PM (7FadD)

34 I believe Ms. McCarthy put on something like 70 lbs during her pregnancy.

Breast implants don't count.  She is an ignorant scrunt and, sadly, I know people whose friends have to sit in classrooms with the shitbirds who don't believe in vaccinating their children.  Plus, she's kind of a butterface.

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 05:48 PM (kpCLl)

35 19 I wonder what Ms. McCarthy thinks about the recent data suggesting a link between pregnant women gaining too much weight and autism?

I believe Ms. McCarthy put on something like 70 lbs during her pregnancy.

Of course, the two may, in the end, be totally unrelated, but what if her own behavior is what caused it?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 10:43 PM (piMMO)

 

she won't believe that.  She got her 100% blameless reason for why here kid is autistic.  Its not her fault, its the doctors the pharmaceutical companies.  To actually suggest that she might have had something to do just won't fly.  Its their fault and all evidence to the contrary is wrong.

Posted by: buzzion at May 30, 2012 05:48 PM (GULKT)

36 Evening, fappers! Happy birfday to me! And shrimps yesterday, if I lurked correctly. And another Moron, whose name I can't recall. I blame the Balvenie.

Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 30, 2012 05:49 PM (I/cLr)

37 27 Jenny McCarthy is a menace to society and an ignorant bint. Do us all a favor and STFU.
***
Don't worry, I just slipped her a mouth plug.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 30, 2012 05:49 PM (61yvg)

38 Does anyone here get the Weather Nation channel?

They contacted me and want to use my Beryl vids on air.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 05:49 PM (piMMO)

39 Jenny McCarthy is no........that chick on the cover of S I a few months ago


not even close

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, crypto clearance intact at May 30, 2012 05:49 PM (Dll6b)

40 Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 30, 2012 10:49 PM (I/cLr)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DC!!!  Did you do anything fun or is this it?

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 05:50 PM (kpCLl)

41 I was peripherally involved in a similar project involving cameras

Can I borrow one of those cameras for a while?

Posted by: Chuck Berry at May 30, 2012 05:50 PM (mjR67)

42 I know PJ was on a roll there, but the War of 1812?  Who the hell burned the capitol?  Or was it the White House?  Or the Library of Congres?

Posted by: L Rob in OK at May 30, 2012 05:50 PM (7yvLv)

43 No lie, Jenny McCarthy was just in an ad on my tv.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at May 30, 2012 10:47 PM (Gk3SS)

 

You were watching NBC weren't you?  Admit it!

Posted by: buzzion at May 30, 2012 05:50 PM (GULKT)

44 I have zero, ZERO tolerance for the anti-vaccination crowd.  [picture a series of several thousand expletives here] IDIOTS.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 05:50 PM (+yTME)

45 Jenny McCarthy is a piker.

Posted by: Rachel Carson, burning in hell as we speak at May 30, 2012 05:51 PM (bAGA/)

46 Speaking of photoshopping, wasn't there a birth certificate that was 'shopped, in the news lately?

Posted by: sTevo at May 30, 2012 05:51 PM (F11f6)

47 This head injury stuff isn't going away,soon we wil have the NFFL(National Flag Football League).

Posted by: steevy at May 30, 2012 05:51 PM (7W3wI)

48 "I kinda feel bad about this post since Jenny McCarthy seems to be a well-meaning and compassionate albeit not particularly bright person " Which describes most actors and actresses. Why the hell would we take advice for them on anything other than acting? Who the hell would take advice on medical care of their children from an actress, instead of their doctor? And I've heard the blah, blah, blah from lefties about how doctors are in the pockets of big pharm. I know quite a few doctors and their wives. One of the worst things for a doctor is to see a child die or have a serious disease. If the dying child is close in age to the docs own child, even worse.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 30, 2012 05:51 PM (8mQJ+)

49 No lie, Jenny McCarthy was just in an ad on my tv.


*****

She's hosting what looks to be the all-time lowering of the bar for reality shows.

I bet even Snooki and J-Woww wouldn't go on that show.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 05:51 PM (piMMO)

50

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 10:49 PM (piMMO)


wow, that's awesome - how much are they offering, if I may ask?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 30, 2012 05:51 PM (7FadD)

51 exposing photo-shopping on Reuters was the One Other Good Thing that Chaz the Johnson ever did beside de-pantsing Dan Rather


I remember 'green helmet guy' from 2007 or so

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, crypto clearance intact at May 30, 2012 05:51 PM (Dll6b)

52 I know PJ was on a roll there, but the War of 1812? Who the hell burned the capitol? Or was it the White House? Or the Library of Congres?

Retort:  Andy Jackson.  Buttkicker.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 05:52 PM (+yTME)

53 Jenny is a good example of a little information being a dangerous thing to somebody with a shot-glass sized brain.  Expecting her to understand how vaccines have made greater inroads to eradicating major diseases than anything else is mission very highly improbable.  I think that ignorant cocksucker Mark Ruffalo has joined her in this; probably to snag some ass at times.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 30, 2012 05:52 PM (7Ph7Z)

54 Jenny McCarthy is no........that chick on the cover of S I a few months ago


****

Sacajawea?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 05:52 PM (piMMO)

55 Happy birthday DC!

Posted by: Joffen, fucking sunshine patriot at May 30, 2012 05:52 PM (nUY/O)

56 42 That was a raid,not an invasion.The invasion they tried was crushed at New Orleans.

Posted by: steevy at May 30, 2012 05:52 PM (7W3wI)

57 Happy birthday, DC!

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 30, 2012 05:53 PM (uB19f)

58 44 I have zero, ZERO tolerance for the anti-vaccination crowd. [picture a series of several thousand expletives here] IDIOTS.

***

But the poor people who can't afford voter ID cards can't afford vaccinations.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 30, 2012 05:53 PM (61yvg)

59 You were watching NBC weren't you? Admit it!


I was watching hockey so that's okay. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at May 30, 2012 05:53 PM (Gk3SS)

60 moki!!!  How's it going?  Any good news on your daughter, your dog, your lovely self?  Been thinkin' about you . . .

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 05:53 PM (kpCLl)

61 wow, that's awesome - how much are they offering, if I may ask?


****

Nothing but a "thank you", but that's fine with me.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 05:53 PM (piMMO)

62 "Why would anyone listen to Jenny McCarthy for child rearing advice? Are there people so stupid that they think a playboy bimbo who thought it was a great joke to fart and pick her nose is the go-to for medical knowledge? " Isn't she the one who almost killed her career by having a photo of herself sitting on a toilet?

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 30, 2012 05:53 PM (8mQJ+)

63 Happy Birthday, DC!  MWAH!

Belated Happy Birthday, Shrimpy!  MWAH!!

And I believe it's Robert's today as well, though that may have been yesterday?  MWAH, even if I'm late!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 30, 2012 05:53 PM (qtKEr)

64 Sacajawea?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 10:52 PM (piMMO)


Do you mean the 'weatherscan' channel 30 on Comcast?

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, crypto clearance intact at May 30, 2012 05:54 PM (Dll6b)

65 Well a few weeks ago a debate on this proposition was held between Buzz Bissinger and Malcolm Gladwell on the pro-ban side and Tim Green and Jason Whitlock on the anti-ban side.

Do those manicured nancy boy professors have any idea what would happen to their cushy jobs if the money from football wasn't pouring in?

Of course this was held at the NCAA powerhouse we know as NYU, and those lefty bedwetters even managed to make Jason Whitlock look like Thomas Sowell

Do these effete elitists think soccer will fund their huge salaries so they can come in once a month to spew bullshit to 20 year olds?

Posted by: kbdabear at May 30, 2012 05:54 PM (Y+DPZ)

66 Didn't mean to imply the Brits got away with it, Circa, just that they did technically invade us.  Does Pancho Villa count?  No?   How about the fk'n millions of Mexicans who just sashayed on over the border.  Now there's an invasion.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at May 30, 2012 05:55 PM (7yvLv)

67 I have zero, ZERO tolerance for the anti-vaccination crowd.

If you think of it as evolution selecting out the stupid, it makes more sense.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 30, 2012 05:55 PM (kmwef)

68 The last time somebody invaded this country we attacked them with PIRATES! Pirates and ANDREW FUCKING JACKSON! That's over nine thousand on the Chuck Norris scale.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 30, 2012 05:55 PM (rEbge)

69 the Brits marched from Baltimore to DC , yes?


going from Bad to Worse ---- Balmer to the District of Crack

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, crypto clearance intact at May 30, 2012 05:55 PM (Dll6b)

70 Bissinger, meanwhile, reserved his ire for what he called “the distracted university”: the campus so awash in fun and fandom that it neglects learning. The United States faces the most competitive global economy in recent memory, he warned. An unhealthy obsession with sports handicaps our intellectual class.

What an idiotic rationale for banning football.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 30, 2012 05:56 PM (QxL+K)

71 I prefer to remember Jenny McArthy as the hot college issue  babe i spanked it to as a young moron, not the chick who constantly talked about how much she farted on Mtv  or the kiddie killer.

Posted by: booger at May 30, 2012 05:56 PM (HI6wa)

72 Ya learn something new everyday.

Posted by: Big T Party at May 30, 2012 05:56 PM (EhUTA)

73 Thanks, Peaches! I got off work early, hit the gym, took a nap in the hammock, had some fun with Cougar, had a drink or 3. All in all, as good as a weekday can be. Also, I get to hang out with this fine pack of degenerates and watch hockey.

Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 30, 2012 05:56 PM (I/cLr)

74 Jenny, Darwin never sleeps.

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2012 05:56 PM (6KkLK)

75 Isn't she the one who almost killed her career by having a photo of herself sitting on a toilet?

*****

The Candies ad!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 05:57 PM (piMMO)

76

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 30, 2012 10:41 PM (61yvg)

 

I think that's part of the problem.  People my age (late 30's) have never seen(yet) the real effects of an epidemic but *have* seen an autistic kid.  It didn't help that doctors pretty much refused to acknowledge the issue because, understandably, to them it was too stupid to waste breath on.  Unfortunately, those who were making money of the anti-vaccine scares used that as "proof" they were right.

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 30, 2012 05:57 PM (CQ1cz)

77 I think P.J.'s point was "foreign armies have never laid waste to the entire place."  One British pinprick around Washington because Madison had the same C-in-C skills as a canned ham don't count.

Cue "Sherman was a foreigner to Georgians" comments here.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 05:57 PM (+yTME)

78 So what was the cross section of the people involved in voting to ban football on campus?  All the pasty little art history majors who throw like girls?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 30, 2012 05:57 PM (zHXz5)

79 in 1814 we took a little trip


along with General Jackson down the mighty Mississipp


we took a little bacon and we took a little beans


and we beat the bloody British in the town of New Orleans

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, crypto clearance intact at May 30, 2012 05:57 PM (Dll6b)

80

Jenny McCarthy is not even a pimple on the Ass of the greatest Mass Murderers of All Time.... the Environmental Protection Agency.

 

When they ban'd DDT, with no real scientific basis, they killed millions of people in Africa and Asia... and are still killing them today... estimates are malaria kills between 770K and 1 MILLION per year... so.... as it was ban'd in 1975... thats in the neighborhood of 30 MILLION preventable deaths.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 30, 2012 05:58 PM (lZBBB)

81 the Brits marched from Baltimore to DC , yes?

On purpose?  Who in their right mind would go to DC on purpose?  Maybe they got lost on their way to Myrtle Beach?

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 30, 2012 05:58 PM (kmwef)

82 The last time somebody invaded this country we attacked them with PIRATES! Pirates and ANDREW FUCKING JACKSON! That's over nine thousand on the Chuck Norris scale.


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Made me laugh.

BTW, my fine city is named for Mr. Jackson.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 05:58 PM (piMMO)

83
Anyone have any interesting local elections coming up? On June 5 we've got an anti-union, pro-transparency measure on the ballot in San Diego. Also first round of mayoral race, with a pretty dynamic conservative who's ahead.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 30, 2012 05:58 PM (lXKFr)

84 80 Ahh,they were only brown and yellow people.

Posted by: steevy at May 30, 2012 05:59 PM (7W3wI)

85

79 in 1814 we took a little trip

 

Mmmmm. Bacon.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at May 30, 2012 05:59 PM (7yvLv)

86 The last time somebody invaded this country we attacked them with PIRATES! Pirates and ANDREW FUCKING JACKSON!

In.  A.  Swamp.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 05:59 PM (+yTME)

87 Kratos, Joffen and Miss T, thanks! Maet, awesome post! I see you got some of the meth that Ace got earlier.

Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 30, 2012 06:00 PM (I/cLr)

88 All in all, as good as a weekday can be. Also, I get to hang out with this fine pack of degenerates and watch hockey.

Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 30, 2012 10:56 PM (I/cLr)


Ah, jeez, I have teh hockey on, too.  LA never had more than about 12 hockey fans, since time immemorial.  Now?  Every last hipster and banger and poseur is suddenly a huge hockey fan. 

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 06:00 PM (kpCLl)

89 68 The last time somebody invaded this country we attacked them with PIRATES! Pirates and ANDREW FUCKING JACKSON! That's over nine thousand on the Chuck Norris scale.
 

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 30, 2012 10:55 PM (rEbge)

 

That... and we sent George Patton after Pancho Villa.... and thats 1 Gazillion on the Chuck Norris Scale...

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 30, 2012 06:00 PM (lZBBB)

90 Isn't she the one who almost killed her career by having a photo of herself sitting on a toilet?

Yea, but she opened up another career in fetish pron by doing that.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 30, 2012 06:00 PM (kmwef)

91 Do those manicured nancy boy professors have any idea what would happen to their cushy jobs if the money from football wasn't pouring in?

Of course this was held at the NCAA powerhouse we know as NYU, and those lefty bedwetters even managed to make Jason Whitlock look like Thomas Sowell

Do these effete elitists think soccer will fund their huge salaries so they can come in once a month to spew bullshit to 20 year olds?

Posted by: kbdabear at May 30, 2012 10:54 PM (Y+DPZ)



Don't most Div 1 programs lose money?  Or is that the complete athletic departments which include Title 9 horseshit?

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 30, 2012 06:00 PM (7Ph7Z)

92 Bissinger, meanwhile, reserved his ire for what he called “the distracted university”: the campus so awash in fun and fandom that it neglects learning. The United States faces the most competitive global economy in recent memory, he warned. An unhealthy obsession with sports handicaps our intellectual class. 

Our so-called intellectual class is what's kneecapping our economy.  What a pack on smug self-important assholes

If I was in charge in the post-apocalypse, all intellectuals would be told that if they wanted to eat they had to be useful. That means keeping the shovel moving and the mouth shut

Posted by: kbdabear at May 30, 2012 06:01 PM (Y+DPZ)

93 moki?  srsly, how you holdin' up, girl?

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 06:01 PM (kpCLl)

94 So what was the cross section of the people involved in voting to ban football on campus?

I note that the debate did not occur in say, Tuscaloosa or Norman.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 06:01 PM (+yTME)

95 Sorry Maet, I can't be near as magnanimous toward Jenny McCarthy. The anti-vaccination crowd is Ron Paul-like in their utter contempt towards the "sheep" and "dupes of Big Pharma" who can't see the wisdom of the anti-vacc position. Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em all. I'm the father of an autistic child, and what bugs the shit out of me is how much money has been poured down the sinkhole of doing more vaccination studies when the money could be spent on legitimate autism research. Go to hell, you moronic bimbo.

Posted by: Ted K. at May 30, 2012 06:02 PM (xf3DG)

96 I worked for a Sgt. who had no toes thanks to the Chosin Reservoir. One of the best men I've ever known.

Posted by: Mike in CFL at May 30, 2012 06:02 PM (motsG)

97 those are the lyrics from a 'top 40' song a half-century ago.


time flies, people dies...

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, crypto clearance intact at May 30, 2012 06:02 PM (Dll6b)

98 LA never had more than about 12 hockey fans, since time immemorial.

Peaches, no lie! I was one of like 50 people at  Kings games when they still played at the freaking Forum in Ingelwood many moons ago when I first moved to CA...and most of the rest of the people their were transplants, cheering for whoever the Kings were playing. And I believe they mainly came to fight themselves; they'd have full-on brawls in the stands sometimes.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 30, 2012 06:03 PM (qtKEr)

99 Do you mean the 'weatherscan' channel 30 on Comcast?


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Nope. It seems to be an alternative to the Weather Channel, HQ'd in Denver. It's not available in Jax, so I've never seen it.

This is their website:  http://weathernationtv.com/




Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 06:03 PM (piMMO)

100 94 So what was the cross section of the people involved in voting to ban football on campus?

I note that the debate did not occur in say, Tuscaloosa or Norman.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 11:01 PM (+yTME)

 

Hell they probably couldn't have even gotten the result they wanted in frickin' Syracuse.

Posted by: buzzion at May 30, 2012 06:03 PM (GULKT)

101 So what was the cross section of the people involved in voting to ban football on campus?

I'll wager expressive wrists and keffiyeh scarves were prominently featured.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 30, 2012 06:03 PM (QxL+K)

102

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 30, 2012 10:51 PM (8mQJ+)

 

Heck, when John was sick I think we met every specialist in two hospitals except for tha neurologist.  They were *traumatized* by the way a 35 year old man was slipping away with nothing they could do to help.  My sisters a surgical PA and she agrees, you go into those fields because you want to *help* not be helpless.

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 30, 2012 06:03 PM (CQ1cz)

103 what bugs the shit out of me is how much money has been poured down the sinkhole of doing more vaccination studies when the money could be spent on legitimate autism research

That right there.

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 06:03 PM (kpCLl)

104 Don't most Div 1 programs lose money? Or is that the complete athletic departments which include Title 9 horseshit?
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 30, 2012 11:00 PM

Maybe the sports that only the parents come to watch.

Football and Basketball are gold mines with the tv revenue, licensing rights, and ticket sales, with the benefit of very low labor costs



Posted by: kbdabear at May 30, 2012 06:04 PM (Y+DPZ)

105 Has anyone ever seen Ace and Zach Galifianakis in the same room at the same time?

Posted by: irright at May 30, 2012 06:04 PM (RzLbD)

106 I do think it would make sense for the universities to just operate minor-league football franchises and stop pretending their players are students.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 30, 2012 06:04 PM (rEbge)

107 I almost bought Pancho Villa's saddle once, in Nuevo Larado, but I had already spent all my "walkin' around money" on a case of Viuda de Romero tequila. Dodged a bullet with that one

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 30, 2012 06:04 PM (JMmQ9)

108 Nobody bumps me. I mean nobody!

Posted by: Israeli Tank at May 30, 2012 06:04 PM (eHIJJ)

109 re DDT:   One of the old retired neighbors was walking by last week while I was working in my yard.  I chit chat with him and he tells me about his new electric battery pwrd lawn mower and how we all have to do something to save the environment.  I ask him what he's doing with those batteries in a few years and where does he think his electricity comes from?  He says wind... heh.  I don't argue.  Then he mentioned being more informed than when he was young.. when he used to chase DDT trucks and get sprayed as a kid.  I flatly asked, IF DDT was so bad, how come he'd somehow survived into his 80's?  What made him special?  He blankly looked at me and then said goodbye.  heh. 

Posted by: Yip in Texas at May 30, 2012 06:05 PM (Mrdk1)

110 who also happens to believe that she's an indigo child and her son is a crystal.

In other words, she's an ENFJ.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 30, 2012 06:05 PM (Iyg03)

111 I can only hope to live as long as it'd take to ban college football in SEC states.


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 30, 2012 06:05 PM (qtKEr)

112 Has anyone ever seen Ace and Zach Galifianakis in the same room at the same time?

Why the hell would anyone WANT to do that?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 06:05 PM (+yTME)

113 ... and I know... it was all about the damn birds!  DDT kills the birds!

Posted by: Yip in Texas at May 30, 2012 06:05 PM (Mrdk1)

114 NYC isn't exactly college football country

Any politician even mentioning the possibility of banning NCAA football outside of NYC would be tarred and feathered, even in California

Posted by: kbdabear at May 30, 2012 06:06 PM (Y+DPZ)

115 Anyone have any interesting local elections coming up? On June 5 we've got an anti-union, pro-transparency measure on the ballot in San Diego. Also first round of mayoral race, with a pretty dynamic conservative who's ahead.


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Awww, San Diego.

I spent a few days there last year and it was the most relaxed I've been in years. At one point I called my boss and told him I wasn't returning to work.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 06:06 PM (piMMO)

116 I note that the debate did not occur in say, Tuscaloosa or Norman.

 

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 11:01 PM (+yTME)

 

The number of head injuries that would occur in that auditorium would probably eclipse that of the entire 2011-12 Div I combined.

 

I'm sure these nutsacks are just pining for soccer too.  Nevermind its attendant degenerative brain conditions and hooliganism that make our sports riots look like TEA Party rallies by comparison.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 30, 2012 06:07 PM (zHXz5)

117 they'd have full-on brawls in the stands sometimes.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 30, 2012 11:03 PM (qtKEr)

Haha, that was the Forum on hockey night, for sure.  You never wore anything you didn't want beer thrown on and, regardless of your commitment, you were always hoarse for days after a game.  Hockey is crazee!

How you holdin' up, all Thor-less and stuff?  If you put up a paypal, I would definitely kick in for a conjugal visit. 

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 06:07 PM (kpCLl)

118 > 88 All in all, as good as a weekday can be. Also, I get to hang out with this fine pack of degenerates and watch hockey. Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 30, 2012 10:56 PM (I/cLr) Ah, jeez, I have teh hockey on, too. LA never had more than about 12 hockey fans, since time immemorial. Now? Every last hipster and banger and poseur is suddenly a huge hockey fan. Posted by: Peaches No no no There was a big hockey bandwagon in 1994(?) - last time Kings were in the finals. I hope they measure the stick curvature...

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at May 30, 2012 06:07 PM (Z+/1s)

119 I can only hope to live as long as it'd take to ban college football in SEC states.

Second civil war.  Texas (yes, technically now an SEC state), Nebraska, Ohio, and Michigan would come along as well.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 06:07 PM (+yTME)

120 Don't most Div 1 programs lose money? Or is that the complete athletic departments which include Title 9 horseshit?


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Well, they can't all be in the SEC, now can they?


Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 06:07 PM (piMMO)

121 I feel a little sympathy for Jenny, not because she used to be hot, but because she is dealing with something, the autism of her son, that she is clearly not prepared to deal with. The same could apply to that woman who lost her son in Iraq, who went batsh!t crazy blaming Bush for killing her son, and then discarded by the left when she was no longer necessary. Not saying I agree with either of them, just that I can sympathize with them for dealing with stuff that they can't handle.

Posted by: hobbes at May 30, 2012 06:08 PM (OSbed)

122 Isn't this little fascist supposed to be term limited? http://tinyurl.com/bq6hfxb

Posted by: booger at May 30, 2012 06:08 PM (HI6wa)

123 ... and I know... it was all about the damn birds! DDT kills the birds! Posted by: Yip in Texas at May 30, 2012 11:05 PM (Mrdk1) It probably was lead in gasoline that was fucking up birds. If it was happening at all.

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2012 06:09 PM (6KkLK)

124 I'm the father of an autistic child, and what bugs the shit out of me is how much money has been poured down the sinkhole of doing more vaccination studies when the money could be spent on legitimate autism research. Go to hell, you moronic bimbo.
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Agree wholeheartedly - from one parent to another.  My plan is to see that bitch in hell and slap the shit out of her...

Avid Reader here...rarely post.

Posted by: Fozalgerts at May 30, 2012 06:09 PM (Pr8hY)

125 OU football.  Approx 85,000 people at six or seven home games per year at a very conservative $100 per seat (may be closer to $250) = $50 - 60M a year.  I think it's running at a profit.   David Boren would rather give up his National Merit Scholars than football.

Posted by: L Rob in OK at May 30, 2012 06:09 PM (7yvLv)

126 Evening all! arrrgh Jenny McCarthy.. what an idiot. Pathetic there are ' Vacinate your child' billboards everywhere because of that loon.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 30, 2012 06:09 PM (DGIjM)

127 Avid Reader here...rarely post.

Posted by: Fozalgerts at May 30, 2012 11:09 PM (Pr8hY)


*****


How the heck did you come up with that handle?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 06:10 PM (piMMO)

128 8 1) Isn't this here "New Comments Thingy" really the "Old & Musty, & Kinda Rancid Comments Thingy" by now?

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No, it's not. I miss the old comments thingie. It used to tell you on the front page how many comments each post had. You could tell where the morons were by watching the comment counts as you refreshed like a refresh monkey.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 30, 2012 06:10 PM (6fER6)

129 There was a big hockey bandwagon in 1994(?) - last time Kings were in the finals.

1993. Fucking Kerry Fraser.

Posted by: Waterhouse, disgruntled Leafs Fan at May 30, 2012 06:10 PM (QxL+K)

130 Avid Reader here...rarely post.

You were supposed to bring the pie......

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 06:10 PM (+yTME)

131 Drudge say Hugo Chavez is soon to be pining for the fiords.

Posted by: eman at May 30, 2012 06:10 PM (6KkLK)

132 I'm pretty sure I had a pertussis booster when I joined the Air Force.  I'll have to check my shot records.  If not, I'll be getting one.  It's on the rise again too.  It pisses me off to no end.  Herd immunity is a wonderful thing, and some folks are pissing it away. 

Posted by: no good deed at May 30, 2012 06:10 PM (mjR67)

133 Peaches, I am doing okay, all things considered....and am overdue for my nightly call, so I need to go make that! I just came on to say happy birthday to Robert, and then DC and Shrimpy!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 30, 2012 06:11 PM (qtKEr)

134 This McCarthy person sounds intriguing. We have our Economy and Alien Czar position filled with Paul Krugman, so she's out there. Maybe she could be Chastity and Modesty Czar...

Posted by: Idiocracy at May 30, 2012 06:11 PM (eHIJJ)

135 Drudge say Hugo Chavez is soon to be pining for the fiords.

Not-so-beautiful plumage on the Venezuelan Red....

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 06:11 PM (+yTME)

136 Will someone put a cranky old 'ette some knowledge?  Cause, dang, how the fuck does something like this happen?

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 06:12 PM (kpCLl)

137 This is a hell of a game. NJ has the momentum, though Cougar is rooting for LA because I think she has a crush on Richards. I'm rooting for another vodka ampersand club. I win.

Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 30, 2012 06:12 PM (I/cLr)

138 Posted by: Fozalgerts at May 30, 2012 11:09 PM (Pr8hY) ***** How the heck did you come up with that handle? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 11:10 PM ...and could you please spell it out phonetically?

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 30, 2012 06:12 PM (JMmQ9)

139

"...when he used to chase DDT trucks and get sprayed as a kid. I flatly asked, IF DDT was so bad, how come he'd somehow survived into his 80's? What made him special? He blankly looked at me and then said goodbye. heh."

 

My 70 y/o mother still tells stories of her and all her still-living friends who used to chase the DDT truck back when they were kids.  The old goat doesn't believe in AGW either. 

 

Bless her soul.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 30, 2012 06:12 PM (zHXz5)

140 Nice deke.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 30, 2012 06:13 PM (QxL+K)

141 I have a niece who is anti-vaccine.  She claims her perfectly normal, second child became autistic and began having seizures 3 days after a routine vaccination. 


I disagree completely with the anti-vaccine brigade but I understand why my niece feels this way.

Posted by: Tami at May 30, 2012 06:13 PM (X6akg)

142 Drudge say Hugo Chavez is soon to be pining for the fiords.

We've got his "room" ready. 

Posted by: The bowels of hell at May 30, 2012 06:13 PM (kpCLl)

143
What will Jarrett do after she's fumigated out of the White House? Will Rahm ban her from his nest? Will Soros tell her "Soros-money is for CLOSERS!"

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 30, 2012 06:13 PM (lXKFr)

144 In other words, she's an ENFJ.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 30, 2012 11:05 PM (Iyg03)

 

Ach, I'm an INFJ, I really hope that doesn't translate as "complete idiot".  Although, I do see disturbing tendencies toward wishing liberal thinking actually *worked* Good thing I was raised by conservatives and taught to value individuals, it was pretty good innoculation against actually becoming liberal (although I really do wish that eveyone *could* have their sunshine and lollipops).

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 30, 2012 06:14 PM (CQ1cz)

145 Cause, dang, how the fuck does something like this happen?

It's something that we only speak of in hushed whispers in leap year months that end in "R" under a new moon.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 06:14 PM (+yTME)

146 This is a BIG nanny deal!
http://is.gd/3CT6N8

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 30, 2012 06:14 PM (gok/T)

147 Isn't she the one who almost killed her career by having a photo of herself sitting on a toilet? Yea, but she opened up another career in fetish pron by doing that. Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 30, 2012 11:00 PM (kmwef) ____________________________ I remember that stupid Candie's ad, but tbh her career was already damn near dead. She was one thing---that Playboy/MTV girl----and then once that was over, she tried a bazillion different ways to get attention by being gross, not just that yucky thing. Before her kid was autistic, she went on the talk shows with her pregnancy book, telling "all the things nobody tells you about pregnancy and birth!" which are pretty much semi-gross things that most people do actually know about the process, but have manners enough to not mention outside of appropriate context. I think she tried the anti-fur-by-being-naked-and-shocking thing, too, but I won't swear to it. It's kind of a fluke that the autism thing is what *finally* earned her some attention. Really, I blame Andrew Wakefield way more than her, Oprah, or anyone in media..

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at May 30, 2012 06:16 PM (snRY5)

148 ... and I know... it was all about the damn birds! DDT kills the birds!

Posted by: Yip in Texas at May 30, 2012 11:05 PM (Mrdk1)

 

I was so angry when I found out they'd cheated on those stupid tests (with-held needed calcium from the birds).  I'd done a presentation in 6th grade about the effects of  DDT and was furious to find out it had all been a lie.

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 30, 2012 06:16 PM (CQ1cz)

149 Evening everyone.

PJ O'Rourke rocks.  He's the author I recommend to my liberal friends in order to try and convert them.

The astrophysics major graduated my school about a year ahead of me, which means I knew some of his instructors.  Small world, I guess.

Posted by: Alex at May 30, 2012 06:17 PM (tGh6R)

150 I wish I could say my old neighbor didn't buy into the AGW hook , line and sinker.  He moved he from New Hampshire to retire.  He's an east coast lib, but a nice old guy.  But the few times I've visited with him.... he's over the top believing the shit from the MSM, NYTimes, CNN, etc.  Sad to forgo everything you know to be true in your life's experience for what they socialists tell you is the real truth.

Posted by: Yip in Texas at May 30, 2012 06:17 PM (Mrdk1)

151 Ok, games over, gotta hit the rack. Night all.

Posted by: DC in Towson, bleeding heart piece of shit at May 30, 2012 06:17 PM (I/cLr)

152 Heh, those goofy bastids fucked up and won, who would've thunk it?

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 06:17 PM (kpCLl)

153 Re: PJ O'Rourke: Actually, the last time the US was invaded, it was by the Brits. And Andy Jackson kicked their butts back into the bayous they crawled out of. "They ran so fast the hounds couldn't catch 'em, Down the Mississippi' to the Gulf of Mexico"

Posted by: Fox2! at May 30, 2012 06:18 PM (RJOgX)

154 121 I feel alittle sympathy for Jenny, not because she used to be hot, but because she is dealing with something, the autism of her son, that she is clearly not prepared to deal with. The same could apply to that woman who lost her son in Iraq, who went batsh!t crazy blaming Bush for killing her son, and then discarded by the left when she was no longer necessary. Not saying I agree with either of them, just that I can sympathize with them for dealing with stuff that they can't handle.

Posted by: hobbes at May 30, 2012 11:08 PM (OSbed)

 

To me its like the children of Palestinians.  They are victims of their parents, just like Jenny is a victim of circumstances beyond her control.  But at some point those little Palestinian kids stop being victims and become a part of the problem and sympathy ceases.  Jenny has joined the problem in full force and sympathy for her has ceased.  She's scum, and her screeching has gotten children killed.

Posted by: buzzion at May 30, 2012 06:18 PM (GULKT)

155 Neid.....

The handle is derived from my husband relatives who have long last names and hard as hell to pronounce.


Posted by: Fozalgerts at May 30, 2012 06:20 PM (Pr8hY)

156 Hi moki!

Posted by: baldilocks at May 30, 2012 06:21 PM (6kWFm)

157

Avid Reader here...rarely post.<>>>

 

Bathe the lurker and bring it to my tent.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2012 06:21 PM (JDIKC)

158 Heck of a game between Celtics and Heat.  99-99 with 34 seconds to go.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 06:21 PM (+yTME)

159 Jenny's opinions have endangered children

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 30, 2012 06:22 PM (Ho2rs)

160 Isn't there a link between older mothers and higher risk of autism?

Posted by: Alex at May 30, 2012 06:22 PM (tGh6R)

161 It's wrong to blame Jenny McCarthy for the vaccine thing. Vaccines have variable efficacy and varicella (chicken pox) is not crucial, while MMR is a little more important.

Posted by: argh at May 30, 2012 06:22 PM (trP3K)

162 Hey, baldilocks!  Hope you are well and thriving here in the far left corner of hell. 

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 06:23 PM (kpCLl)

163 "I flatly asked, IF DDT was so bad, how come he'd somehow survived into his 80's? What made him special? He blankly looked at me and then said goodbye. heh. Posted by: Yip in Texas" My parents operated a small fruit farm until about 1962. My brother and I were laughing the other day about how so many of those farmers, who handled insecticides before the days of increased regulation, managed to live to their eighties and nineties. My dad is 94 and still shuffling around. No cancer. There were bottles with skull and crossbones on them. He did wear a face mask for that stuff.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 30, 2012 06:23 PM (8mQJ+)

164 17 #AwfulKidsToys laredo cigarette rolling machine Ninja please. Johnny flaming torch halloween costume? Bag o glass toy?

Posted by: Irwin Mainway at May 30, 2012 06:23 PM (EPDxg)

165 Bathe the lurker and bring it to my tent.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2012 11:21 PM (JDIKC)

Dude, you are just so dang lovable!  mwah!!

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 06:23 PM (kpCLl)

166 Medical professionals don't give out reliable or consistent info on vaccines, and that leaves the door open for the wackadoos. Vaxing blindly, which is what everyone is pressured to do, is not a net win.

Posted by: argh at May 30, 2012 06:24 PM (trP3K)

167

160 Isn't there a link between older mothers and higher risk of autism?

Posted by: Alex at May 30, 2012 11:22 PM (tGh6R)

 

I think there's a link between older mothers and Down's Syndrome.  Not sure about autism.

Posted by: buzzion at May 30, 2012 06:24 PM (GULKT)

168 Ninja please. Johnny flaming torch halloween costume? Bag o glass toy?

Invisible pedestrian.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 06:25 PM (+yTME)

169 Ach, I'm an INFJ

After I wrote that I realized she sounds more like an ENFP.  So, you're off the hook.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 30, 2012 06:25 PM (Iyg03)

170 I think you can have a 0% unemployment rate in astrophysics, because it's constantly evolving. The universe is huge and there just aren't enough eyes to study it. There's really never going to be a shortage of jobs.
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I'm not sure I buy that. However much science there is that can be done, someone has to pay for it for there to be a job in it, and I don't see much profit in astrophysics, at least in the near term.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2012 06:25 PM (3aXbg)

171 Vaxing blindly, which is what everyone is pressured to do, is not a net win.

Excuse me...horseshit.  Next.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 06:26 PM (+yTME)

172 169 Ach, I'm an INFJ

After I wrote that I realized she sounds more like an ENFP. So, you're off the hook.


is that test somewhere online?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 30, 2012 06:26 PM (7FadD)

173 College Football Should Be Banned
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Where the hell does the federal government get the right to ban a sport?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2012 06:27 PM (3aXbg)

174 Hobbes, I'm so glad folks like you are out there. Stay safe.

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at May 30, 2012 06:27 PM (iaDpU)

175 93 moki? srsly, how you holdin' up, girl? Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 11:01 PM (kpCLl) Hey Peaches!! Kinda bummed. My PET showed that I still have a mass on my kidney, although it is smaller. So we wait six months, see if it grows. If so, the kidney goes. Other than that, I went out and got a sunburn just before my melanoma surgery. Just because I feel ornery. How are you doing?? I hope it's good, that you have your law office straightened out and the kitty is breathing well.

Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 06:27 PM (dZmFh)

176

Ninja please. Johnny flaming torch halloween costume? Bag o glass toy?

Invisible pedestrian.<>><

 

Roof Rangers Paratrooper Kit

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2012 06:27 PM (JDIKC)

177 I'm not sure I buy that. However much science there is that can be done, someone has to pay for it for there to be a job in it, and I don't see much profit in astrophysics, at least in the near term.

It's bullshit.  There are so few and they can basically overlap with astronomers for jobs in many cases (he's running a planetarium, for example).

Posted by: Alex at May 30, 2012 06:28 PM (tGh6R)

178 oh moki that sucks, sorry to hear that

Posted by: chemjeff at May 30, 2012 06:28 PM (7FadD)

179 156 Hi baldilocks!! How goes it??

Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 06:29 PM (dZmFh)

180 I think there's a link between older mothers and Down's Syndrome. Not sure about autism.

Huh.  Thanks, I'll use the Google machine later to look it up.

Posted by: Alex at May 30, 2012 06:29 PM (tGh6R)

181

Posted by: Tami at May 30, 2012 11:13 PM (X6akg)

 

Have to admit that Son had a reaction (probably to the tetnus booster they said) as we were walking out of the doctor's office after his last check-up.  He suddenly got really white but I thought he was goofing around (which he does a lot) because he kept trying to go through the glass panel *next* to the door. It wasn't until he started to collapse and I had to catch him that I realized he was serious.

 

It was really scary with an 11 year old, so I can see why it's very frightening to the mother of a toddler who has a reaction.  On the whole though, I firmly believe that the vaccinations are a good thing.  It probably helps that my f-i-l *remembers* the time he spent in an iron lung as a 3 year old because of polio and made sure we understood what the effects of an epidemic were like. 

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 30, 2012 06:29 PM (CQ1cz)

182 Ninja please. Johnny flaming torch halloween costume? Bag o glass toy?

Invisible pedestrian.<>><

Roof Rangers Paratrooper Kit


****

Operation: Now with Real Scalpels!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 06:29 PM (piMMO)

183 I think there's a link between older mothers and Down's Syndrome. Not sure about autism. Posted by: buzzion at May 30, 2012 11:24 PM (GULKT) ---------------------- I've read that there may be a link between older fathers and autism (personally, I wonder if men with high functioning autism/Asperger's may just end up being older fathers for various social reasons, rather than it being an issue of older sperm) and, yes, the link between older mothers and DS is very clear and well-established.

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at May 30, 2012 06:30 PM (snRY5)

184 Good evDAMMIT!  Already time to get ready for woik.

Okay, okay.

A couple of things first.

The Alien Anthology bluray set is on sale at Amazon for a little while longer.  $30 bucks (or $22 for the standard DVD "quadrilogy").  Use Ace's Amazon widget thingy and send him free money.

Chicken is a man's best friend on a diet.  I repeat, chicken is a man's best friend on a diet.

This green apple is *most* delicious.

It has been declared that Iron Maiden's Number Of The BEast is the best British rock album of the last 60 years.  Go forth, Moron Nation, and buy ten copies each and another five copies of each of their other 14 albums.  Fly!

And, finally, Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of miserable failure.

Back later.

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 06:30 PM (F79HU)

185 The MMR vaccine is given to children around the time period when signs of autism shows up. The schedule for it may have changed by now. My son is now 25.

I had a woman stop me in the store to ask about the link between autism and vaccines.  I ask her where she got her info. from and she said JM.

I had to refrain from scaring the poor woman to death because I was so mad.  My advise to her was to keep her little boy vaccinated and ride the teachers ass at the IEP meetings.

I cant wait for the next bullshit thing that causes autism.


Posted by: Fozalgerts at May 30, 2012 06:31 PM (Pr8hY)

186 Kinda bummed. My PET showed that I still have a mass on my kidney, although it is smaller. So we wait six months, see if it grows. If so, the kidney goes.

Moki, you know what?  I have 2 kidneys and I don't really need 'em both and I would be more than happy to get tested to give you one.  Despite my decadent lifestyle, I am disgustingly healthy.  I'm not kidding here and I wouldn't say it to just anyone.  Shoot me an email if you like, I would love that.  carolinvenice at the hooyah.  big hug, in any case {{{{}}}}

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 06:31 PM (kpCLl)

187 Happy Birthday, Robert!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 30, 2012 06:31 PM (qtKEr)

188 178-meh. My doc was not overly concerned, but he's a vaguely Eastern European type who would tell you to stop blubbering if your arm was cut off and dripping blood on his floor. I love him. It's just a kidney, hell, plenty here are going through far, far worse and still fighting the good fight. Hubby is the one taking this worse than me. But I bet if I hadn't gotten vaccines, I would never have gotten cancer. Just ask Jenny!!!!!

Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 06:31 PM (dZmFh)

189 It has been declared that Iron Maiden's Number Of The BEast is the best British rock album of the last 60 years.

Wait....THAT beat Rick Astley?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 06:32 PM (+yTME)

190 My brother and I were laughing the other day about how so many of those farmers, who handled insecticides before the days of increased regulation, managed to live to their eighties and nineties.
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We have developed an odd notion of risk as a society - and this feeds into the Jenny McCarthy thing.

There is certainly some risk from a vaccine - it isn't zero. But the risk of a serious negative effect is dramatically lower then the risks you face if you don't immunize your kids.

However, since the vaccine is an active risk and not taking one a passive one, some idiots see the latter as no risk at all.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2012 06:32 PM (3aXbg)

191

"But in the end the proposition to end college football was passed ...

 

... so, all those 50's and ealy 60's Disney movies really were prescient ...

Posted by: Arbalest at May 30, 2012 06:32 PM (i83fA)

192 What happened when the Brits took Washington DC in the War in 1812? A fuckin' hurricane blew them outta town. We got our own Divine Wind, baby.

Posted by: sistrum at May 30, 2012 06:32 PM (AyryN)

193 Peaches, I gotta go wipe the tears from my eyeballs now, damn you.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 30, 2012 06:32 PM (qtKEr)

194 don't let the shot-givers give any of your kids two shots during the same visit


I let them do that to #2 Son ( Charlie Chan reference ) when he was 11, and his immune system has been Less Than Mediocre ever since.



Posted by: SantaRosaStan, crypto clearance intact at May 30, 2012 06:33 PM (Dll6b)

195

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 30, 2012 11:25 PM (Iyg03)

 

Well, the confusion is because I'm a dork (and an INF*P*).  John was INTJ which made him a wonderful accountant and not very good handyman.  We'd sit near each other reading for hours, but it might have been good if one of us had liked doing yardwork as well.

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 30, 2012 06:33 PM (CQ1cz)

196 I didnt win the lottery again.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 30, 2012 06:33 PM (DGIjM)

197 157
Avid Reader here...rarely post.<>>>

Bathe the lurker and bring it to my tent.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 30, 2012 11:21 PM (JDIKC)

Funny

Posted by: lou's a girl at May 30, 2012 06:33 PM (fHyXI)

198 Just ask Jenny!!!!! Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 11:31 PM (dZmFh) ---------------------------- Jenny's opinions have endangered children Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 30, 2012 11:22 PM (Ho2rs) ____________________ Sometimes, I really hate my parents for calling me Jenny....

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at May 30, 2012 06:33 PM (snRY5)

199 and, yes, the link between older mothers and DS is very clear and well-established.
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Society (not government) should be trying to persuade people to have kids while they are youngish (20s) for this reason. But it does almost the exact opposite.


Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2012 06:34 PM (3aXbg)

200 I think the link is between older fathers and schizophrenia?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 30, 2012 06:34 PM (qtKEr)

201 Peaches, I gotta go wipe the tears from my eyeballs now, damn you.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 30, 2012 11:32 PM (qtKEr)

Don't make me slap you, Tammy, cause you know I will, girl! 

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 06:35 PM (kpCLl)

202 Society (not government) should be trying to persuade people to have kids while they are youngish (20s) for this reason. But it does almost the exact opposite.

The biggest culprit is The Pill.  Rick Santorum caught flak for saying it, but The Pill has some serious damaging side effects for society as a whole. 

Posted by: Alex at May 30, 2012 06:37 PM (tGh6R)

203 And Peaches, don't you just know these reprobates here would fap to it?!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 30, 2012 06:37 PM (qtKEr)

204

It has been declared that Iron Maiden's Number Of The BEast is the best British rock album of the last 60 years.

Funny they listed NotB as the best, but left off Powerslave completely. I'm very partial to the latter, although both albums have some of the best songs they made in the 80's. I actually prefer the stuff they have done since 2000 when Bruce returned to the band, and they won a Grammy for El Dorodo last year.

Posted by: hobbes at May 30, 2012 06:37 PM (OSbed)

205 holy shit that South Africa quote from PJ O'Rourke is hilarious.

Posted by: Ben at May 30, 2012 06:38 PM (UvdzB)

206

Anyone here from the late late ont last night, my lab was right, there was a small earthquake in CA, just saying.

Posted by: lou's a girl at May 30, 2012 06:38 PM (fHyXI)

207 The left is obsessed with having prfect kids and whne they don't they need it to be someone elses fault. When I was pregnant with my first a family friend had their first child, who was born with down syndrome. I wanted to send a baby gift. My MIL said not to because the child had downs. Stupid. There is a strong genetic component to autism and spectrum disorders. And I have no doubt that if and when those genes are isolated and can be tested for, those children will be aborted. By people like Ms McCarthy. She claims she "cured" her child. Lets see how he does when he is an adolescent. There is no "cure". My best friend in childhood had a brother with downs. He was the sweetest. I truly believe that early experience made me a better parent to my own child with learning disabilities. I love him madly and the world would be a poorer place without him in it. Ms McCarthy is an ass.

Posted by: thunderb at May 30, 2012 06:38 PM (Dnbau)

208

Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 11:31 PM (dZmFh)

 

Praying for you and yours.  Didn't know that there was melanoma too, I've missed too many ONTs.

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 30, 2012 06:38 PM (CQ1cz)

209 Hey, Empire of Jeff.  I am not an it.  You guys are too funny.

I needed a few laughs tonight.  It has been a helluva week.  Lost two fur babies recently...
sad business.  Cause is still unknown.


Posted by: Fozalgerts at May 30, 2012 06:39 PM (Pr8hY)

210 0% unemployment factoid:  5'10" and slim?  gay porn actors needed!  Canadians desired.  Knowledge of anatomy a plus!  Must be able to learn ins and outs of shipping parcel post!  Call now! 

Posted by: MSNBC JOB DESK at May 30, 2012 06:41 PM (Mrdk1)

211 Older fathers and autism...http://tinyurl.com/d66mqn6

Posted by: no good deed at May 30, 2012 06:41 PM (mjR67)

212 Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 30, 2012 11:29 PM (CQ1cz)



I *think* he's about 10 now and this happened several years ago.  He has to take meds to control the seizures, he has trouble in school and assorted other problems.

Like I said, I don't agree with her stance but I don't blame her.

Posted by: Tami at May 30, 2012 06:41 PM (X6akg)

213

Kngs win in overtime !

Posted by: The Jackhole at May 30, 2012 06:41 PM (DU15A)

214 The biggest culprit is The Pill. Rick Santorum caught flak for saying it, but The Pill has some serious damaging side effects for society as a whole.
Posted by: Alex at May 30, 2012 11:37 PM


What problems could pumping your body full of unnatural levels of hormones for years and years cause?   

Posted by: huerfano at May 30, 2012 06:43 PM (bAGA/)

215 208-Polliwog!!! {{Hugs}} to you too! It's been one of those weeks, but I am okay. How is homeschooling going? Are you about done for the year? 209-Fozalgerts, I am so sorry about your furry babies. That is hard. Hugs to you too. The Morons and Moronettes are some truly awesome people. What an amazing thing Ace has brought together!

Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 06:43 PM (dZmFh)

216 How come you guys always talk about Jackson but not me?

Is that an Indian I heard!?

Oh, oh. I think I just shit myself.

Posted by: zombie general william hull at May 30, 2012 06:43 PM (nrW1y)

217 I needed a few laughs tonight. It has been a helluva week. Lost two fur babies recently...
sad business. Cause is still unknown.


Posted by: Fozalgerts at May 30, 2012 11:39 PM (Pr8hY)


I'm so sorry, Foz.  My kids are all of the four-footed variety and I know how much it hurts.  I hope you will lurk less and hang more.  Big hug.

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 06:43 PM (kpCLl)

218 And I have no doubt that if and when those genes are isolated and can be tested for, those children will be aborted.
***
One great irony that occurs to me.

If homosexuality is genetic, it will be "cured" within a generation or two by selective abortion. Feminists will kill off their closest allies. Literally.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2012 06:44 PM (3aXbg)

219 I suspect there's something genetic.  I'm a textbook INTJ, my brother is a textbook INTP, and we both got a touch of Aspergers (enough that once recognized, you can use it to your advantage, but not so much its debilitating)

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 30, 2012 06:45 PM (kmwef)

220 moki, I missed the melanoma too!  Ornery is good....shows you're a fighter!


Keeping you in my prayers.

Posted by: Tami at May 30, 2012 06:45 PM (X6akg)

221 he left is obsessed with having prfect kids and whne they don't they need it to be someone elses fault.

Posted by: thunderb at May 30, 2012 11:38 PM (Dnbau)



It's especially funny/pathetic as leftists are seriously damaged goods to begin with, right down to their deranged DNA and missing chromosomes.  Leftists only have normal kids if the children are the beneficiaries of very lucky, random mutations.   Leftists ought to conceive while being X-rayed to give their kids a fighting chance.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 30, 2012 06:45 PM (X3lox)

222 Ban college football and I beat the scoamf like Andrew Sullivan at a homopron awards show.

Posted by: Nora at May 30, 2012 06:45 PM (VxqUc)

223 I think the link is between older fathers and schizophrenia? Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 30, 2012 11:34 PM (qtKEr) -------------------- Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe both? Husband interjected that having kids while old probably causes the fathers to go slightly crazy, too, but I doubt that that's exclusive to older parents....

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at May 30, 2012 06:45 PM (snRY5)

224 Everyone knows vaccinations are just an excuse for doctors to put spider eggs in babies. Years later the spiders devour the child from within, then control the human shell and walk around looking for other victims.

Pleasant dreams, all.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 30, 2012 06:45 PM (rEbge)

225

My MIL said not to because the child had downs. Stupid.- thunderb

 

wow...... I cannot imagine the grief your friend would have felt had her friends followed such advice. Talk about a feeling of utter rejection of someone's offspring by friends.

Posted by: hobbes at May 30, 2012 06:45 PM (OSbed)

226 Shrimps, I'm so sorry

sad kitteh

http://tinyurl.com/6lomc5s

Posted by: chemjeff at May 30, 2012 06:46 PM (7FadD)

227 My MIL said not to because the child had downs.

why, because MIL was hoping for a late-term abortion or something?  that is just so wrong

Posted by: chemjeff at May 30, 2012 06:46 PM (7FadD)

228

Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 11:43 PM (dZmFh)

 

We're going year round with assorted breaks. I am letting the kids get up later for now though. 

 

The kids think we should go to a Jan 1 start and do quarters with breaks in between. I'm trying to figure out if we can make that work without having a six-month break which isn't okay.

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 30, 2012 06:46 PM (CQ1cz)

229 Well, I've probably dumped enough on Jenny McCarthy.  She is light years ahead of this mother.  http://tinyurl.com/7h6mjey

Posted by: no good deed at May 30, 2012 06:47 PM (mjR67)

230 Stupid fucking Heat.

Posted by: not that the NBA even really matters at May 30, 2012 06:47 PM (dhm4S)

231 Slamming McCarthy? Have you no shame?

Posted by: S Daniel at May 30, 2012 06:48 PM (BVkEs)

232 Purp, where did you take those personality tests?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 30, 2012 06:48 PM (7FadD)

233 My MIL said not to because the child had downs.
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Did you ask her if she could repeat that in the original German?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2012 06:48 PM (3aXbg)

234 Thanks peaches.  I usually get up in the morning to Vic's daily news and try to check in through out the day.
SoS had a great story going on there for awhile. He is an excellent wordologist. And am waiting on Shrimp to win the lottery.

Posted by: Fozalgerts at May 30, 2012 06:49 PM (Pr8hY)

235 What problems could pumping your body full of unnatural levels of hormones for years and years cause? Posted by: huerfano at May 30, 2012 11:43 PM (bAGA/) Do NOT get me started on the idiots who won't touch a non-organic apple and rail about the hormones in Tyson chicken (hello? Chickens are animals, they have hormones) but happily swallow their adorable little shot of estrogen and progesterone without a second thought.

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at May 30, 2012 06:49 PM (snRY5)

236 One great irony that occurs to me. If homosexuality is genetic, it will be "cured" within a generation or two by selective abortion. Feminists will kill off their closest allies. Literally. Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2012 11:44 PM (3aXbg) Exactly... Only gays that will survive abortion are from pro life Christians. Ironic, indeed.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 30, 2012 06:49 PM (DGIjM)

237 194 don't let the shot-givers give any of your kids two shots during the same visit Yeah, I don't get why they give them so damn many all at once. Even our vet spaces out our dog's shots so they don't overwhelm her immune system. Also, don't kids get 3-4x more vax than those of us born before the early 70s?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 30, 2012 06:50 PM (EPDxg)

238 If homosexuality is genetic, it will be "cured" within a generation or two by selective abortion.
----------------

????? Since when do pro-aborts align with gay-haters?

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 30, 2012 06:51 PM (lXKFr)

239 Thanks Tami!! I pale in comparison to so many of the people here, like Vic, who is a true fighter. It's just annoying that it keeps cropping up. I appreciate all the prayers and support, though. That really helps to gear up against it.

Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 06:51 PM (dZmFh)

240

Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 11:43 PM (dZmFh)

 

Miss Tammy, I thought you might be amused to know that the mockingbird has gone silent now that I know what it is and want to figure out its calls.  I decided that the metallic call might actually be copying some of the frogs we have here. 

 

The girls said they heard *a* mockingbird at the entrance to the neighborhood who was mimicking one of the outdoor cats.  They were surprised at how small the bird was compared to the noise it makes.

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 30, 2012 06:51 PM (CQ1cz)

241 At least I won, Hull.

Does anyone else hear falling masonry?

Posted by: zombie general zebulon pike, jr. at May 30, 2012 06:51 PM (nrW1y)

242 Ok, so why do people pierce their nose?

Yes, I know women have been piercing ear lobes for ever...but flem and such don't come out of your ear lobe...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2012 06:52 PM (3aXbg)

243 I am not going down the vaccine argument road this evening. I work with public health and the amount of ignorant out there in the public is incredible. Even the Mexicans across the border have the good sense to bring their children here to be vaccinated. The last thing we need is an epidemic. No one is turned away based on their ability to pay. That's why there is a vaccine for children program.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 06:53 PM (Fy6L7)

244 Yo, can we just do a heartfelt moron rip for Carroll Shelby?  Cause he rocked it out . . .

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 06:53 PM (kpCLl)

245 Ok, so why do people pierce their nose?

To repulse normal society.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 30, 2012 06:54 PM (X3lox)

246
why, because MIL was hoping for a late-term abortion or something? that is just so wrong
Posted by: chemjeff
-----------------

My impression is because supposedly the Down kid would not be capable of enjoying a fluffy bunny toy, whereas a normal 3-day-old would write a Camille Paglia-esque appreciation of kitcsh.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 30, 2012 06:54 PM (lXKFr)

247 Since when do pro-aborts align with gay-haters?
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Not that I have anything against gay people, but my Indigo Child will produce two lovely enlightened grand children for me. So when is the soonest you can get me in? Yeah, I'll pay cash.

Posted by: Some Liberal Mother on the phone with Planned Parenthood at May 30, 2012 06:55 PM (3aXbg)

248 There's a online Briggs/Meyers personality surveys.  Some seem more comprehensive than others.

http://www.   personalitypathways.   com/type_inventory.html#Inventory  (collapse blanks in URL)

That one will get you in the ballpark

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 30, 2012 06:55 PM (kmwef)

249 The kids think we should go to a Jan 1 start and do quarters with breaks in between. I'm trying to figure out if we can make that work without having a six-month break which isn't okay. Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 30, 2012 11:46 PM (CQ1cz) Okay, I am laughing at their, ah, ingenuity!!!Tell them you can do the quarters starting in June! Then get two weeks off between quarters, beginning in September. Note: Disney prices plummet in September due to A) school starting and B) hurricane season, which is actually more active in September than in June-August. But, you can enjoy the parks when it's not so crowded, and still warm enough to enjoy the water rides!!!

Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 06:55 PM (dZmFh)

250 Polliwog, Teahada hobbit , I'm old enough to remember the days when measles, mumps, and chicken pox were extremely common. And there were even cases of scarlet fever. When measles were going around, the teachers would check every students stomach each day for spots. Some of these diseases could have very serious consequences. Part of the problem is that they did such a good job with the vaccinations that people have forgotten about mumps and German measles and what they can do.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 30, 2012 06:55 PM (8mQJ+)

251 The last thing we need is an epidemic.
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Says you.

Posted by: John Holdren at May 30, 2012 06:56 PM (3aXbg)

252 okay I found the test

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

Posted by: chemjeff at May 30, 2012 06:56 PM (7FadD)

253 No one is turned away based on their ability to pay. That's why there is a vaccine for children program.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 11:53 PM (Fy6L7)



Which contributed heavily to killing the vaccine producers - at least the feral government's "for the kids" vaccine program that Shrillary got expanded in her only "success" with ShillaryCare.  That's a good part of the reason why we've had such problems getting proper vaccines delivered on time.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 30, 2012 06:57 PM (X3lox)

254 who also happens to believe that she's an indigo child and her son is a crystal.
In other words, she's an ENFJ.
Posted by: rdbrewer

Or she's on the autism spectrum, which is why her kid has autism.

Posted by: stc at May 30, 2012 06:57 PM (vFGWb)

255 Idiots on our side of the fence like Bachmann and Malkin don't help with their nonsense on immunizations, either.  Malkin is particularly unhelpful, as she claims, if pressed, that she keeps her own kids' vaccines up to date and only objects to "government" mandating them.  But that's part of government's legitimate functions, protecting public health where the failure of voluntary action puts many lives at risk.

Posted by: Adjoran at May 30, 2012 06:58 PM (VfmLu)

256 Ok, so why do people pierce their nose?

So they can walk into a biker bar and get their asses kicked?  Some people are into that kinda degradation shit...

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 30, 2012 06:59 PM (kmwef)

257 Im 50 years old and recently had a measles booter. My mom can't recall if i had measles and with a compromised immune system measles could prove a problem my husband contracted measles at 40, it was not pretty.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 06:59 PM (Fy6L7)

258
Only gays that will survive abortion are from pro life Christians.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp
-----------------------

Who will then tell the kids they are "from Satan."


Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 30, 2012 06:59 PM (lXKFr)

259

If people want to be dumb enough to listen to what Jenny McCarthy thinks they should do, have at it. Its sad when the kids are dragged into the stupidity of parents and die as a resultbut what are you supposed to do, sit around grieving dumb asses all day? I try and ignore others misfortune unless it happens to someone I know, and I can do something about it. The rest can fuck off. Lifes too short for that, and that includes pretending to give a damn. Maybe people like me are the problem, and on that I still don't give a damn. 

Posted by: Jimmah at May 30, 2012 07:00 PM (cWkOB)

260 Who will then tell the kids they are "from Satan."

***
I approve of this stereotype

Posted by: The Church Lady at May 30, 2012 07:00 PM (3aXbg)

261 A lot of my friends are gay Jews.

Posted by: Obama Ben-Gurion at May 30, 2012 07:01 PM (BVkEs)

262

Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 11:55 PM (dZmFh)

 

I like the June idea, except for the small problem that, due to recent grandparent visits, we still have a couple of weeks to go.  If I can find a way to ensure that projects and such are worked on I'd probably be willing to let them start in January.  Perhaps this is another opportunity for a persuasive paper from my eldest?  She also has some science and language that she needs to catch up on since as an 8th grader she was *supposed* to be doing extra work in both.

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 30, 2012 07:01 PM (CQ1cz)

263 Not that I have anything against gay people, but my Indigo Child will produce two lovely enlightened grand children for me. So when is the soonest you can get me in? Yeah, I'll pay cash. Posted by: Some Liberal Mother on the phone with Planned Parenthood at May 30, 2012 11:55 PM (3aXbg) I already have a genetically tested blond haired boy with the athletic gene. I will just keep trying for the blond haired girl with the PHD gene. The lesbian daughter doesnt quite fit in to my plans.

Posted by: another liberal mom at May 30, 2012 07:01 PM (DGIjM)

264 257-mpfs, measles at 40? God bless him, I bet that was awful. How on earth did he get it?

Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 07:02 PM (dZmFh)

265 Idiots on our side of the fence like Bachmann and Malkin don't help with their nonsense on immunizations, either.
***
I feel fairly confident in saying just about zero people have not had their kids immunize because of Bachmann or Malkin.

Sadly, JM has sway with your average poorly informed soccer mom, however.

Posted by: The Church Lady at May 30, 2012 07:02 PM (3aXbg)

266 In FL, I think the state govt only mandates vaccination if you want to attend a public school.  If you want to home school and have your kid get polio or something, that's OK.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 30, 2012 07:02 PM (kmwef)

267 Not that I have anything against gay people, but my Indigo Child will produce two lovely enlightened grand children for me. So when is the soonest you can get me in? Yeah, I'll pay cash.
Posted by: Some Liberal Mother on the phone with Planned Parenthood
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Never heard this one. Since when do pro-aborts dream of grandkids? Besides, don't they align with people who think gays should be able to marry and adopt kids, or do the Mary Cheney thing and get inseminated?

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 30, 2012 07:02 PM (lXKFr)

268 Is anyone else noticing that PJ Media is going to hell in a handbasket?

Posted by: Dianna at May 30, 2012 07:02 PM (mKMj1)

269 WA state has been dealing with an outbreak of Whooping Cough for most of the spring - over 1700 cases (fortunately, no fatalities).  Many of the counties have been holding vaccination clinics to try and keep the outbreak under control. 

Celebs like Bimbo Jenny do so much harm whenever they open their pieholes at try to speak out on something that they don't have a freaking clue about

Posted by: Duke of Beef Wellington Bomber at May 30, 2012 07:02 PM (Jls4P)

270 253 To be honest I don't care if they can pay or not just get vaccinated. I live 15 miles from the border and we have enough problems with TB.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 07:02 PM (Fy6L7)

271 Who will then tell the kids they are "from Satan." Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 30, 2012 11:59 PM (lXKFr) Awww. no they arent.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 30, 2012 07:03 PM (DGIjM)

272 "242 Ok, so why do people pierce their nose?"

Whenever I see someone with a nose piercing, I try to hand them a tissue while whispering:  "You've got a little boog there."   Kind of ruins the whole "sexy" vibe they thought they had going.

Posted by: irright at May 30, 2012 07:03 PM (RzLbD)

273 Well folks I'm off to turn in my guns and armor. Fly out to Dubai tomorrow and home in Savannah on Saturday morning. Y'all be good.

Posted by: hobbes at May 30, 2012 07:03 PM (OSbed)

274 I'm sorry, but when I see an ONT title like "The Jenny McCarthy Body Count", I expect it to be accompanied by an illustration of the one thing Jenny McCarthy was ever good at. That's right. I mean hosting awkward MTV dating shows.

Posted by: Choomin' Barry O at May 30, 2012 07:04 PM (Y5I9o)

275 A lot of my friends are gay Jews.
***
Ben only comes in on Wednesdays now Barry. 

Posted by: The Clientele of Mantown at May 30, 2012 07:04 PM (3aXbg)

276 well according to Purp's link I am an ISTP, I guess
although choosing between T and F is a bit of a tossup

Posted by: chemjeff at May 30, 2012 07:04 PM (7FadD)

277 Hi moki. I say a pray for you my friend. My husband came in contact with a child who was contagious. He was vaccinated as a child but the immunity doesnt last a lifetime. It was awful for him.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 07:05 PM (Fy6L7)

278 Is anyone else noticing that PJ Media is going to hell in a handbasket?

The registration thing on the videos drove me away. 

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 30, 2012 07:05 PM (kmwef)

279 Regarding why kids get more shots now than they did in the 70s----well, we've discovered that we can prevent more diseases now than they could 40 years ago. My sister is 12 years younger than I am and got more shots---chicken pox shots didn't exist when I was a kid, neither did the shots to prevent HPV and meningicocal (sp?) meningitis and probably a few others. I've never ever seen illnesses that my youngish parents had as a normal course in childhood (mumps and german measles). And kids do get more boosters, so more total shots, than they used to because we've discovered that they don't last as long as we once thought. PS---before anyone pipes in that chicken pox is not that bad and doesn't need to be vax'd against, try getting shingles and then get back to me.

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at May 30, 2012 07:05 PM (snRY5)

280 Whenever I see someone with a nose piercing, I try to hand them a tissue while whispering: "You've got a little boog there." Kind of ruins the whole "sexy" vibe they thought they had going. Posted by: irright at May 31, 2012 12:03 AM (RzLbD) Hahaha.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 30, 2012 07:06 PM (DGIjM)

281 I find the most ardent pro choice voices have no problem aborting children that do not meet their expectations, by having downs or some other disability. These babies aren't people, spiritual beings, to them. They are accessories that may reflect unfavorably on them. I truly believe that as the field of genetics advances, great swaths of humanity will cease to exist. And the world will be poorer for it. I learn so much about people and their inner core, more than they realize they are revealing to me, by how they interact with my son. And he teaches me more about kindness, perseverance, and courage every day. I would be a lesser person without him. That is not to say I don't wish I could take this struggle from him at times. But I would never wish him away. Ms McCarthy has contradictory ideas about her son rambling around in her head. On the one hand, vaccines gave him autism, on another hand she cured him. And on a third hand (?) his unique neurology makes him some new kind of human, an evolutionarily advanced being, an "indigo child". The next step in evolution. Shes nuts and she is hurting people.

Posted by: thunderb at May 30, 2012 07:06 PM (Dnbau)

282 273 Well folks I'm off to turn in my guns and armor. Fly out to Dubai tomorrow and home in Savannah on Saturday morning. Y'all be good. Yay! Safe journey home Hobbes.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 30, 2012 07:06 PM (EPDxg)

283 Idiots on our side of the fence like Bachmann and Malkin don't help with their nonsense on immunizations, either.

Posted by: Adjoran at May 30, 2012 11:58 PM (VfmLu)



Don't confuse people who are anti-vaccine with those who have objections to certain vaccines.  There's a big difference, you know.  Not all vaccines are created equal.

Objections to mandates for certain vaccines can also be rational, depending on the vaccine, the disease, and the probabilities.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 30, 2012 07:06 PM (X3lox)

284 Yo Morons

Posted by: zeera at May 30, 2012 07:06 PM (XtxRN)

285 well according to Purp's link I am an ISTP, I guess

I didn't go to the link, but I'm pretty sure I'm a STFU. 

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 07:07 PM (kpCLl)

286 My husbands grandmother had her nose pierced... She was an Indian and it was cultural my 14 year old niece whose Indian blood has been diluted to a mere 1/4 had her nose pierced and looks like an idiot

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 30, 2012 07:07 PM (Ho2rs)

287 Besides, don't they align with people who think gays should be able to marry and adopt kids, or do the Mary Cheney thing and get inseminated?
***
So...this whole bit about liberals saying one thing and doing another in their own life has passed you by?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2012 07:07 PM (3aXbg)

288 yeah I should probably get booster shots too
man I hate the tetanus shot, it hurts like hell

Posted by: chemjeff at May 30, 2012 07:08 PM (7FadD)

289 I like the June idea, except for the small problem that, due to recent grandparent visits, we still have a couple of weeks to go. If I can find a way to ensure that projects and such are worked on I'd probably be willing to let them start in January. Perhaps this is another opportunity for a persuasive paper from my eldest? She also has some science and language that she needs to catch up on since as an 8th grader she was *supposed* to be doing extra work in both. Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 31, 2012 12:01 AM (CQ1cz) Let her write the paper, and then compromise-give them the summer off-IF she finishes all of her work by June 15, then start the quarter system on September 1, ending on December 15, so that there are two weeks at the end of the month for a break. Then the kids get a break for the summer (and so do you), they feel like they got a victory and you get the work completed. Would oldest do better in a science co-op class? I felt like science was the hardest to do at home, because of the experiments. Without a dedicated lab, it is harder to manage a lot of the experiments, especially with chemistry and physics. Biology wasn't so bad, but the dissection was a pain because it stunk to high heaven. She may also enjoy being with other kids, and working with them on the projects, as well. Just a thought-you will work it out beautifully, I am sure!

Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 07:08 PM (dZmFh)

290 try getting shingles and then get back to me.
Posted by: jenny tries too hard at May 31, 2012 12:05 AM
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*shudder*

Been there, done that.

Posted by: Contemplative Lobster at May 30, 2012 07:08 PM (ay6+/)

291 I had shingles on my lower back in high school, it was torture.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 07:09 PM (Fy6L7)

292 My husbands grandmother had her nose pierced... She was an Indian

Dot or feather? 

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2012 07:09 PM (kpCLl)

293 Hobbes.. travel safe!  You're appreciated!

Posted by: Yip in Texas at May 30, 2012 07:09 PM (Mrdk1)

294

Well, my son has Asperger's, or high-functioning autism, or non-verbal learning disorder, or PDDNOS, or whatever the hell the DSM-V is calling it now. For a while there, I was on board the vaccination thing. My son seemed pretty normal until he was about fifteen months old and then it all went to hell.   It seemed to dovetail eerily with his shots record. He did have a slight reaction to his last major shot combo.This was in the mid-nineties, when we were all groping around trying to figure out what was happening.  For a while there it was red dye # 40, leaky gut syndrome, chelation.  You're devastated and looking for desperately for some answers because that's your starting point for trying to make it better.  But we didn't stop vaccinating because the, documentation wasn't compelling enough, even back then, before the story broke that the study out of England was an absolute fabrication.  If all the kids are getting the same vaccines, then why weren't all becoming autistic?  We knew it had to be something else, or something more.  Maybe my son had a physiological weakness that made him susceptible to the shots, or whatever.  That was just his (our) misfortune.  Vaccines have killed kids.  As a parent, you know that going in. It's a small, but acceptable risk for the massive protections the vaccines bring.   So I don't really blame Jenny McCarthy as a grief-stricken parent trying to latch on to whatever seemed reasonable to her. I blame our foolish media for, at best, making this airhead a cause celebre and overlooking the paucity of the science in order to sell a few more magazines and book a few more ad spots on Oprah.  At worst, she was a willing dupe for the Big Bad Pharm zealots at a time when the narrative required it.

Sorry this is so long. And she is butterface, peaches.

And my son, the boy we were told would never be able to function outside a self-contained autism room, graduated from a regular high school on Sunday, and was accepted into two universities. He's far from neurotypical, but we did what we could.  He's got about as good of a shot as any other kid these days, I guess.

Posted by: Gem at May 30, 2012 07:09 PM (zw+pb)

295 May 29th also B-Day of JFK, Bob Hope and me!

Posted by: AlaskaGal at May 30, 2012 07:10 PM (2fe76)

296 The registration thing on the videos drove me away.

I'm sorry, Purp, the comment police-thing keeps insisting that your name is very long strings of text which are annoying to read.

I'm irritated because my comments on various blogs don't appear any more. No one told me I'd been assigned to banned camp, and it's making me rather angry.


Posted by: Dianna at May 30, 2012 07:10 PM (mKMj1)

297 The only time I'm going to be OK with getting sharp pointy metal shit poked through my body parts is when I'm on a morgue slab someday.  Prior to that, it creeps me out.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 30, 2012 07:10 PM (kmwef)

298 292 My husbands grandmother had her nose pierced... She was an Indian

Dot or feather?
Posted by: Peaches at May 31, 2012 12:09 AM


...or Harvard?

Posted by: irright at May 30, 2012 07:11 PM (RzLbD)

299 Dot

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 30, 2012 07:12 PM (Ho2rs)

300 The Cult performing on Jimmy Kimmel tonight and, for those who can stomach it, a repeat of Obama's shameful, pitiful, pathetic appearance on Jimmy Fallon will be aired tonight.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 07:12 PM (piMMO)

301

To me,  it boils down to all "gay" conversation is just talking about how someone likes to get off. And I make sure to tell them I really care less how you like to get off. It ofends them, but it shuts them up, and usually permanently on that subject.

Two posts, and both of them saying I don't give a fuck. I'm probably not impressing the "compassionate" people reading this.

Posted by: Jimmah at May 30, 2012 07:13 PM (cWkOB)

302 Gem, that is a great story.  Glad that your son is doing so well.  You should be a proud parent.

Posted by: chemjeff at May 30, 2012 07:13 PM (7FadD)

303 "Reason #38 why you won't see me jumping out of a still functional airplane." Doing a static line jump from a C130 or C141 at night at 800 feet with about 100 lbs of gear and parachute plus weapon is a rush for a young man. I was never afraid because I knew with a nineteen-year-old's certainty I would never get seriously hurt or killed. Much older now and definitely aware of my mortality, I'd probably be very much afraid, but do it anyway. Once a paratrooper, always a paratrooper. No sky too high, no blast too fast, you call we fall, 80-Deuce on the loose...

Posted by: troyriser at May 30, 2012 07:13 PM (YCeSE)

304 I know PJ was on a roll there, but the War of 1812? Who the hell burned the capitol? Or was it the White House? Or the Library of Congres? Retort: Andy Jackson. Buttkicker. Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 30, 2012 10:52 PM (+yTME) Don't forget the Japs invading Attu and Kiska in '42. Alaska wasn't a state, but it was an incorporated US territory so it counts. As for ass-kickers, my old regiment, the 17th Infantry, kicked the shit out of the Japs on Attu a few months later in one of the nastiest battles in the Pacific. 'sup jackwagons.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 30, 2012 07:13 PM (Rhie+)

305 happy birthday AlaskaGal

Posted by: chemjeff at May 30, 2012 07:13 PM (7FadD)

306 Dot

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 31, 2012 12:12 AM (Ho2rs)



Touchable dot?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 30, 2012 07:14 PM (X3lox)

307 Chemjeff Since you teach at a college you should probably get the meningococcal vaccine.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 07:14 PM (Fy6L7)

308

"Part of the problem is that they did such a good job with the vaccinations that people have forgotten about mumps and German measles and what they can do."

 

I believe that this is indeed a large part of the problem. I personally think it would have helped if doctors had come out immediately saying "This is how it used to be, look at how much better it is now". On the other hand,  at least some in the anti-vaccine community seem pretty conspiracy minded and doctors responding might not have helped at all.  Although it seems like it would have *had* to help if anti-vaccine wasn't *all* low information  parents heard.

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 30, 2012 07:14 PM (CQ1cz)

309 okay good night all

Posted by: chemjeff at May 30, 2012 07:14 PM (7FadD)

310 My brother daughter is also an Aspy.  Freaking brilliant kid.  If you can train yourself to compensate for the personal interaction quirks, and recognize it for what it is, you can certainly turn it to your advantage in an academic setting.  My brother and I both did.

Posted by: Purp (@PurpAv) at May 30, 2012 07:15 PM (kmwef)

311 And my son, the boy we were told would never be able to function outside a self-contained autism room, graduated from a regular high school on Sunday, and was accepted into two universities. He's far from neurotypical, but we did what we could. He's got about as good of a shot as any other kid these days, I guess.


****

Congratulations, Gem!

Hope, faith, and love can work miracles.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 07:15 PM (piMMO)

312 Congrats Gem.  I wish your son all the best.

Posted by: Fozalgerts at May 30, 2012 07:16 PM (Pr8hY)

313 Ms. McCarthy is not alone. There is kind of a cult within the autism community that promotes the "advanced evolution" view. The neurology is weird, and they do process sensory input differently. And re-programming yourself to communicate effectively with a loved one on the spectrum does kind of make you crazy.

Nonetheless, yes, she is hurting people.

Posted by: stc at May 30, 2012 07:16 PM (vFGWb)

314 295 May 29th also B-Day of JFK, Bob Hope and me! Posted by: AlaskaGal at May 31, 2012 12:10 AM (2fe76) and Me! Happy belated birthday!!!

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 30, 2012 07:16 PM (DGIjM)

315
Exactly...

Only gays that will survive abortion are from pro life Christians. Ironic, indeed.
Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp
-------------------

"gays that will survive abortion"? You mean gays are born that way? It's not a sinful lifestyle choice?

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 30, 2012 07:17 PM (lXKFr)

316 I stopped talking to my idiot cousin over her anti-vaxer nonsense.  She's full of the stupid, particularly when it comes to modern medicine (she also thinks things like x-rays, mammograms, and chemotherapy are evil because they aren't "natural"), but the anti-vax stuff was the last straw for me.  I really hope she never has kids (she thinks she might have fertility problems), but if she does I'm keeping mine far, far away.

Posted by: not the mama at May 30, 2012 07:17 PM (96Kco)

317 Holy shit. The Israeli tank / Ewok incident was six years ago? Damn. I'm six years older, but only feel four years smarter. I demand a partial refund.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 30, 2012 07:17 PM (75ggp)

318 255- "...protecting public health where the failure of voluntary action puts many lives at risk." My kids are vaccinated against measles. So if you don't vaccinate yours and they should happen to contract it, how are my kids endangered? I am very pro-vac, but I am sympathetic to Malkin's argument. At what point should the government intervene? We don't let parents withhold life-saving treatment in emergent situations, not even if they have a religious objection. But "maybe they'll get measles" isn't the same as "they'll bleed to death!" I don't know.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille, Wiseacre Latina at May 30, 2012 07:18 PM (C8mVl)

319 316 I hope she has her cemetery plot picked out.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 07:18 PM (Fy6L7)

320 Heh! Check out the new photo at Drudge.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 07:18 PM (piMMO)

321 Congratulations, Gem!

Happy Birthday, and many happy returns of the day, AlaskaGal!

Now I'm going to go walk dogs and get some sleep. Good night!

Posted by: Dianna at May 30, 2012 07:18 PM (mKMj1)

322 Yes it is a cult and it is wasting time and wasting money, like paying to watch a temper tantrum.

Posted by: thunderb at May 30, 2012 07:18 PM (Dnbau)

323 I stopped talking to my idiot cousin over her anti-vaxer nonsense. She's full of the stupid, particularly when it comes to modern medicine (she also thinks things like x-rays, mammograms, and chemotherapy are evil because they aren't "natural"), but the anti-vax stuff was the last straw for me. I really hope she never has kids (she thinks she might have fertility problems), but if she does I'm keeping mine far, far away. Posted by: not the mama at May 31, 2012 12:17 AM (96Kco) Ugh, the natural thing. The best way to respond is to shrug and remind them that tooth decay is natural, too.

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at May 30, 2012 07:19 PM (snRY5)

324 "gays that will survive abortion"? You mean gays are born that way? It's not a sinful lifestyle choice? Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at May 31, 2012 12:17 AM (lXKFr) I think most are.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 30, 2012 07:20 PM (DGIjM)

325 I was just being silly.  Untouchables probably aren't even allowed to have dots.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 30, 2012 07:20 PM (X3lox)

326 What's tastier? Dog or hobo?

Posted by: Professor Oilfields Amazing Reverse Unit at May 30, 2012 07:20 PM (YsN3L)

327 To be honest I don't care if they can pay or not just get vaccinated. I live 15 miles from the border and we have enough problems with TB. Posted by: mpfs at May 31, 2012 12:02 AM (Fy6L7) I was at the very tail end of the horrific polio epidemic and got one of the first Salk vaccines. McCarthy should stick to handjobs.

Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at May 30, 2012 07:20 PM (z8HSj)

328 Is chearleader season over? If so when does chearleader season start again? Whoever posts the Cjearleader pics needs a medal, for bestest dude or sumptin

Posted by: moron #4 at May 30, 2012 07:20 PM (RQjPS)

329 Gem-Congratulations! What a wonderful accomplishment for your son, and a great big raspberry to the docs who said he couldn't do it. thunderb-please hug and kiss your baby for me. My parents worked with DS kids in our church 45 years ago, and as a toddler, I played with them rather than going to my class. I grew up with such wonderful playmates, and loving friends. DS children are precious gifts from God, and anyone who says differently are sad, sorry individuals. I know it's hard, but you know, ALL kids are hard, especially if you are raising them right. There are all sorts of challenges, and whether it be DS, autism, cancer, depression, learning disability, or what have you. You face it, look for and enjoy the good, and learn to take the bad as a learning experience. It will usually make you a better person.

Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 07:21 PM (dZmFh)

330 What's tastier? Dog or hobo? ***** Ick The poor guy that was attacked by the druggie in Miami.... It turns out his family thought he'd been dead for about 30 years.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 07:22 PM (piMMO)

331 You remember me? I'm very flattered.

Posted by: zombie rachel corrie at May 30, 2012 07:22 PM (nrW1y)

332 talks real slow, sort of like John Wayne. Or Jenny McCarthy's kid.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 30, 2012 07:22 PM (z8HSj)

333 i for one do not want to witness the return of polio or other diseases which have been mostly eradicated We still have Hansen's Disease in this country. Us old timers know it as leprosy.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 07:23 PM (Fy6L7)

334 Friend of a friend lost her 2 month old to whooping cough. In 2012. In the USA. Mom didn't get boosters while pregnant. Baby too young for vaccine. Lots of unvaccinated undocumented raza here. Sad story.

Posted by: osoloco at May 30, 2012 07:23 PM (4DKt+)

335
McCarthy should stick to handjobs. Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at May 31, 2012 12:20 AM

I volunteer to help her with that.  But she should be prepared to deal with a little prick.

Posted by: irright at May 30, 2012 07:24 PM (RzLbD)

336 We still have Hansen's Disease in this country. Us old timers know it as leprosy. Posted by: mpfs at May 31, 2012 12:23 AM (Fy6L7) I think that is imported

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 30, 2012 07:24 PM (RQjPS)

337 Friend of a friend lost her 2 month old to whooping cough. In 2012. In the USA. Mom didn't get boosters while pregnant. Baby too young for vaccine. Lots of unvaccinated undocumented raza here. Sad story. Posted by: osoloco at May 31, 2012 12:23 AM (4DKt+) where was this at?

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 30, 2012 07:25 PM (RQjPS)

338 Infants don't need Hep B. That one is strictly because at-risk populations are unlikely to take it. In other countries it is optional, which is smarter. That's what I mean by blindly accepting the American schedule. There's nothing special or life-saving about the American schedule.

Posted by: argh at May 30, 2012 07:25 PM (trP3K)

339 PS---before anyone pipes in that chicken pox is not that bad and doesn't need to be vax'd against, try getting shingles and then get back to me.

No kidding!  I had shingles in the sixth grade.  I couldn't even put on a shirt.  I had to stay face down on my bed for two weeks.  I know, here in the moron crowd, that wouldn't even get an eyebrow raise.  Sucks for a twelve year old though. 

Posted by: no good deed at May 30, 2012 07:25 PM (mjR67)

340 Is chearleader season over? If so when does chearleader season start again? Whoever posts the Cjearleader pics needs a medal, for bestest dude or sumptin ***** I am looking to launch the United Sisterhood of Moronette Commenters and the first issue is that of equal treatment by the cob-loggers. We I demand hot player pics as well.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 07:26 PM (piMMO)

341 336 Mostly Southeast Asia.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 07:26 PM (Fy6L7)

342 Posted by: osoloco at May 31, 2012 12:23 AM (4DKt+) that is heartbreaking.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 30, 2012 07:26 PM (DGIjM)

343

Posted by: moki at May 31, 2012 12:08 AM (dZmFh)

 

I should ask her about co-op.  Right now the experiments are pretty simple with easily obtainable supplies so that's not the issue.  She's just not very interested in science.  About the only reason I have for *not* putting her in a co-op is that she's already the one who takes part in *all* special classes we do which doesn't seem very fair to the others.

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 30, 2012 07:26 PM (CQ1cz)

344 341 336 Mostly Southeast Asia. Posted by: mpfs at May 31, 2012 12:26 AM (Fy6L7) Or Armadillos

Posted by: TexasJew at May 30, 2012 07:27 PM (z8HSj)

345 Friend of a friend lost her 2 month old to whooping cough. In 2012. In the USA. Mom didn't get boosters while pregnant. Baby too young for vaccine. Lots of unvaccinated undocumented raza here. Sad story. ***** I was only about 4 years old at the time and still remember nearly losing my sister to Whooping Cough. Talk about an awful sound. You never forget it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 07:28 PM (piMMO)

346 Goodnight all, sleep well.

Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 07:28 PM (dZmFh)

347 Soooo. as a smart guy who proposes feeding amyonayse to the tuna fish, got a questions. fi suppose there is a prenatal test for 'they ghey' what do you think will happen to the Democrat coalition if ''the ghey' decide abortion is now a very bad thing? anyone game play this out? could be epic. man I dislike Democrats, any mind fuck I can play is the awsome!!! 11' ty!!

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 30, 2012 07:28 PM (RQjPS)

348 341 336

Mostly Southeast Asia. Posted by: mpfs at May 31, 2012 12:26 AM

and screwing armadillos , or something.

Posted by: irright at May 30, 2012 07:28 PM (RzLbD)

349 ...try getting shingles and then get back to me.
---------------------
The worst part is when I saw the Dr. - before he said shingles -  write "Herpes Zoster". All I saw was "Herpes" and I couldn't breathe for about two minutes.

Posted by: Contemplative Lobster at May 30, 2012 07:29 PM (ay6+/)

350 "I'm irritated because my comments on various blogs don't appear any more. No one told me I'd been assigned to banned camp, and it's making me rather angry. Posted by: Dianna at May 31, 2012 12:10 AM (mKMj1)" I've was kicked out of Free Republic for calling out a pack of neo-confederate Stormfront refugees and booted from LGF for questioning the weird groupthink going on over there when Charles started going over the edge, stopped posting over at Hot Air after Ed Morrissey and I got into it over his incessant plugging for Rick Santorum, that shrill, whiny, insufferably self-righteous pipsqueak of a man. I don't mind. Better to be banned than to not call 'em as I see 'em. Besides, their site, their rules, their prerogative. My life ever slows down, maybe I'll start a blog of my own. As it is, I like giving expression to the political junkie side of my nature.

Posted by: troyriser at May 30, 2012 07:29 PM (YCeSE)

351 I had scarlet fever as a teenager. No idea how I got that. It was awful.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 30, 2012 07:29 PM (DGIjM)

352 Posted by: TexasJew at May 31, 2012 12:22 AM (z8HSj)

Hey, if it isn't one of my favorite commenters!!!

Have I told you I loved you today?

I mean, er, not that I have to everyday. I'm sure you already know that, but I figured I'd mention just how much I cared, one more time, so everyone can hear.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obamawitzbergenstein at May 30, 2012 07:29 PM (dhm4S)

353 Saw an 8 year old child die of cerebral malaria in the PI 30 years ago - something that could have been controlled with DDT and netting, or the right meds took a child's life because of ignorance (the child's family relied on the local shaman to "cure" their daughter).

I also remember the big push in the 60's and 70's about families getting immunized for measles - and how pregnant mothers were especially at risk of passing it on to their unborn child

Posted by: Duke of Beef Wellington Bomber at May 30, 2012 07:30 PM (Jls4P)

354 The worst part is when I saw the Dr. - before he said shingles - write "Herpes Zoster". All I saw was "Herpes" and I couldn't breathe for about two minutes. **** It's all in the family.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 07:30 PM (piMMO)

355 Good night Moki. You are in my prayers.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 30, 2012 07:30 PM (DGIjM)

356 I had scarlet fever as a teenager. No idea how I got that. It was awful. ***** Did someone close to you have strep?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 07:31 PM (piMMO)

357 I may pop in more often if hot player pics are posted.  Where do I sign up to join this Sisterhood you speak of?

Posted by: fozalgerts at May 30, 2012 07:31 PM (Pr8hY)

358 OK, I'm out. INTJ, if you're keeping score at home. I'll figure out what that means tomorrow; I'm kinda geeked right now...it's the first on-line psych test I've taken that didn't return the score of "SEEK HELP NOW". But that's another story for another time. In other news, I re-join the ranks of the employed on Monday morning, so I'm in "Bonus Plus" mode, although the "dust off and nuke the site from orbit" switch is still set to the "On" position... we'll have words soon tomorrow night, mi amigos

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 30, 2012 07:31 PM (JMmQ9)

359 Do we just use the "salad bar" approach to vaccines then? I'll have one of these but I'll pass on this but can I have extra of those please? Its a dangerous game we play.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 07:31 PM (Fy6L7)

360 too slow, as usual

Posted by: irright at May 30, 2012 07:31 PM (RzLbD)

361 Gee thanks Moki, I hope you feel better soon.

Posted by: thunderb at May 30, 2012 07:31 PM (Dnbau)

362 352 Posted by: TexasJew at May 31, 2012 12:22 AM (z8HSj) Hey, if it isn't one of my favorite commenters!!! Have I told you I loved you today? I mean, er, not that I have to everyday. I'm sure you already know that, but I figured I'd mention just how much I cared, one more time, so everyone can hear. Posted by: Barack Hussein Obamawitzbergenstein at May 31, 2012 12:29 AM (dhm4S) Much love back from the 79% of us who adore you.. btw - some of my best friends are pathological shvartze socialists!

Posted by: TexasJew at May 30, 2012 07:31 PM (z8HSj)

363 Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 31, 2012 12:28 AM (RQjPS) The dude who posted that is drinking today

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 30, 2012 07:31 PM (RQjPS)

364 It's all in the family.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2012 12:30 AM
------------------------------
That's what my cousin says, bless her heart.

Posted by: Contemplative Lobster at May 30, 2012 07:32 PM (ay6+/)

365 Did someone close to you have strep? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2012 12:31 AM (piMMO) I was in high school at the time.. so I was probably exposed to that. I was at home sick with it when the space shuttle blew up.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 30, 2012 07:33 PM (DGIjM)

366

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 31, 2012 12:29 AM (DGIjM)

 

It's strep that doesn't get treated fast enough.  It's rare now because usually it's recognized and treated with an antibiotic nearly immediately.

 

 

Night Moki, sleep well.

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 30, 2012 07:33 PM (CQ1cz)

367 343-okay I lied, I read this before signing off completely. Don't worry about "fair", since you are trying to work with each child individually. She may need more outside stimulation, and since she is the eldest, you could decide that once the kids hit 8th grade, they get to enjoy more co-op, special classes, as part of their junior high/high school needs. That is the beauty of homeschool-you can tailor it to meet your child's specific needs. Good luck with everything though. I am in awe that you can homeschool four kids. That is true genius!!

Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 07:33 PM (dZmFh)

368 349 I know the feeling. When the word Herpes came out I almost passed out.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 07:33 PM (Fy6L7)

369 I'm sure that whenever Jenny McCarthy gets a dose, she sure as hell gets a shot from the doc..

Posted by: TexasJew at May 30, 2012 07:34 PM (z8HSj)

370 We I demand hot player pics as well. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse Just tell CdrM who you want to see. He put up a pic of Gerard Butler when I made a request.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 30, 2012 07:34 PM (EPDxg)

371 Do we just use the "salad bar" approach to vaccines then? I'll have one of these but I'll pass on this but can I have extra of those please? Its a dangerous game we play.

Posted by: mpfs at May 31, 2012 12:31 AM (Fy6L7)



Salad bar approach? No.  A la carte is how it goes.

Look, Texas went way overboard with that idiotic pseudo-mandate for the HPV vaccine.  If you want to blame someone for forcing the issue, then blame the governments that overreach and begin to think that they know everything.  In doing so they jeopardize any credibility they had and open the issue up to doubts even for the important vaccinations.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 30, 2012 07:35 PM (X3lox)

372 AIDS sure made us forget about Herpes.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 30, 2012 07:35 PM (z8HSj)

373 okay, now I am really, truly signing off. Hugs to all

Posted by: moki at May 30, 2012 07:36 PM (dZmFh)

374 i prefer not to play Russian roulette with public health. That's all I'll say on the matter.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 07:36 PM (Fy6L7)

375 Do we just use the "salad bar" approach to vaccines then? I'll have one of these but I'll pass on this but can I have extra of those please? Its a dangerous game we play. Posted by: mpfs at May 31, 2012 12:31 AM (Fy6L7) It is hard. Where exactly do you draw the line between being an informed patient and just trusting the doctor when he/she says all these shots are necessary?

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at May 30, 2012 07:36 PM (snRY5)

376 Hugs back, Moki.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 30, 2012 07:36 PM (DGIjM)

377 "Ugh, the natural thing. The best way to respond is to shrug and remind them that tooth decay is natural, too.

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at May 31, 2012 12:19 AM"


Well, I could try, but I doubt it would make much difference.  She's so stupid that she thinks vitamin C cures cancer, even though I pointed her to numerous medical experts who have refuted that claim.  Her response: "just because it hasn't been proven doesn't mean it isn't true."  She's so stupid she refuses to take antivirals for her genital herpes in favor of "natural vitamin therapy," even though she has flare-ups every other week.  I know this because she's also the queen of oversharing and writes about it in her personal blog.  stuck. on. stupid. 

Posted by: not the mama at May 30, 2012 07:37 PM (96Kco)

378

Posted by: moki at May 31, 2012 12:33 AM (dZmFh)

 

Having curriculum, and making the older two do a lot of the reading, makes it possible.  I'm grateful to have the opportunity since a lot of women in my position would be *forced* to get a job, and in Obama's economy, maybe two. 

Posted by: Polliwog, Teahada hobbit at May 30, 2012 07:37 PM (CQ1cz)

379 i prefer not to play Russian roulette with public health.

Posted by: mpfs at May 31, 2012 12:36 AM (Fy6L7)



That's what they said to ban smoking.  Somehow we have people working in coal mines but it's impossible to work in a smoky bar.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 30, 2012 07:37 PM (X3lox)

380 The only vaccinations I remember in detail were before an overseas deployment. The damned medic smeared the airgun on my arm when he pulled the trigger. Put a nice, inch-long gash in my arm. Blood everywhere, ruined my t-shirt. A couple of days later, I got the standard old gamma globulin shot in my butt. Felt like I was getting a softball shoved under each buttcheek.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 30, 2012 07:39 PM (Rhie+)

381 372 AIDS sure made us forget about Herpes. Posted by: TexasJew at May 31, 2012 12:35 AM (z8HSj) sure did.

Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 30, 2012 07:39 PM (DGIjM)

382 Look, Texas went way overboard with that idiotic pseudo-mandate for the HPV vaccine. If you want to blame someone for forcing the issue, then blame the governments that overreach and begin to think that they know everything. In doing so they jeopardize any credibility they had and open the issue up to doubts even for the important vaccinations. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2012 12:35 AM (X3lox) I think HPV vaccines (though I support them emphatically) are a whole different ballgame from the other vaccines. Yes, Gov. Perry was way off base when he ordered that, but it's not because he should've taken a more "salad bar" approach. Vaccines should be required for school, but only the vaccines that prevent an illness that can be passed during a normal school activity. So that would take Hep B and HPV off the required list (fine, but it should still be strongly reccommended by public health offices) and leave the polio, mumps, tetanus, pertussis, etc.

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at May 30, 2012 07:40 PM (snRY5)

383 374 i prefer not to play Russian roulette with public health. That's all I'll say on the matter. Posted by: mpfs at May 31, 2012 12:36 AM (Fy6L7) Nothing like seeing half the kids in your 6 year-old daughter's bunk come down with polio (about a quarter died and more than half never walked again, mostly having to live in iron lungs for almost two decades) to make you less resistant to the Salk shot or Sabin sugar cubes. Happened to my cousin's bunk. She was fortunate to have had mosquito spray.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 30, 2012 07:40 PM (z8HSj)

384 ~~~~Just tell CdrM who you want to see. He put up a pic of Gerard Butler when I made a request.

If the pictures show up. Tonight, no pictures are showing up on my screen. I think when CAC post an ONT, the pictures show up.


Posted by: fozalgerts at May 30, 2012 07:41 PM (Pr8hY)

385 sure did. Posted by: Jumbo Shrimp at May 31, 2012 12:39 AM (DGIjM) well something like 20% of 20 to 30 year olds have the scarlet H, where as less than 1% have da' AIDS IF you are Straight and don't fukk IV druggies, da Herp is way more of a probability than the HIV statistics and all

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 30, 2012 07:41 PM (RQjPS)

386 Government and vaccines:

[Wall St Journal, 8/15/2003] The root of this government role goes back to August 1993, when Congress passed Mrs. Clinton’s Vaccines for Children program. A dream of Hillary’s friends at the Children’s Defense Fund, her vaccines plan was to use federal power to ensure universal immunization. So the government agreed to purchase a third of the national vaccine supply (the Clintons had pushed for 100%) at a forced discount of half price, then distribute it to doctors to deliver to the poor and the un- and under-insured…

The result is a cautionary tale for anyone who favors national health care. Already very high in 1993, childhood vaccination rates barely budged. A General Accounting Office report at the time noted that “vaccines are already free” for the truly needy through programs like Medicaid. Meanwhile, however, the Hillary project dealt the vaccine industry another financial body blow.

Thirty years ago, the [National Academy of Science's Institute of Medicine] report notes, 25 companies produced vaccines for the U.S. market. Today only five remain…


Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 30, 2012 07:42 PM (X3lox)

387 High five, dude!

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at May 30, 2012 07:42 PM (bMLFV)

388 As Glenn Reynolds says, "who will write their stories?"

AP wants to get prostitutes away from its DC bureau

http://tinyurl.com/czkg4b5

Posted by: kbdabear at May 30, 2012 07:43 PM (Y+DPZ)

389 Shoot, I'm out... Anybody got a roll of three-ply Facebook stock certificates I can borrow? I'll replace them, say, next month.

Posted by: t-bird at May 30, 2012 07:43 PM (FcR7P)

390 379 Oh please, you cant compare the two. Enough already. Make your choice and take your chances. Just don't expect any sympathy if you make a choice to not vaccinate and people get sick and some might even die. I'm out. This subject makes my blood boil.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 07:44 PM (Fy6L7)

391 The Cleaning Fairy

http://fcnews.tv/Nhipkt

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 07:44 PM (piMMO)

392 Posted by: katya, the designated driver at May 31, 2012 12:42 AM (bMLFV) any chance he met with Megyn Kelly, Patty Anne Brown, Harris Faulkner or Allison?

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 30, 2012 07:44 PM (RQjPS)

393 night all. Thanks for letting me vent.

Posted by: thunderb at May 30, 2012 07:44 PM (Dnbau)

394 I am looking to launch the United Sisterhood of Moronette Commenters and the first issue is that of equal treatment by the cob-loggers.

We I demand hot player pics as well.
***
Ok - that we can do!

http://tinyurl.com/89egx8v

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2012 07:45 PM (3aXbg)

395 "I kinda feel bad about this post since Jenny McCarthy seems to be a well-meaning, compassionate albeit not particularly bright person who thought she was helping..."

No need to feel bad. Any person who thinks they should "help" while not knowing the technical details of the issue they're involving themselves with deserves neither support or sympathy, especially where people's lives are at stake.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at May 30, 2012 07:45 PM (4s7w4)

396 any chance he met with Megyn Kelly, Patty Anne Brown, Harris Faulkner or Allison? Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 31, 2012 12:44 AM (RQjPS) With his luck, he got the stall next to Shep Smith.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 30, 2012 07:46 PM (z8HSj)

397 Just don't expect any sympathy

Who asked for any sympathy?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 30, 2012 07:47 PM (X3lox)

398 With his luck, he got the stall next to Shep Smith. ***** FNC, if you're reading this, would you please.... for the love of all that is holy.... give at least one of Shep's shows to Kilmeade?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 07:49 PM (piMMO)

399 Come work at border health for a month. It will make your hair stand on end. You obviously enjoying being an ass because, boo hoo, someone was going to make you get a vaccine. Christ Almighty they backtracked and admitted they were wrong. Let. It. Go. Its like being around 'Michelle Bachmann.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 07:50 PM (Fy6L7)

400 Is there a Moron in the house?

Posted by: fluffy at May 30, 2012 07:50 PM (z9HTb)

401 We still have Hansen's Disease in this country. Us old timers know it as leprosy. Posted by: mpfs at May 31, 2012 12:23 AM

I read somewhere that Carville, Louisiana, hometown of James Carville, was the home of the national leprosy hospital.  He must have been the hottest boy in high school.

Posted by: huerfano at May 30, 2012 07:52 PM (bAGA/)

402 395:"No need to feel bad. Any person who thinks they should "help" while not knowing the technical details of the issue they're involving themselves with deserves neither support or sympathy, especially where people's lives are at stake."


Amen!

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at May 30, 2012 07:52 PM (Y5I9o)

403 Is there a Moron in the house? Posted by: fluffy at May 31, 2012 12:50 AM (z9HTb) well, I'm #4, what's up?

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 30, 2012 07:53 PM (RQjPS)

404 >>>any chance he met with Megyn Kelly, Patty Anne Brown, Harris Faulkner or Allison?

I caught him frolicking in my trash. At first I was pissed, but he was so charming that I let him penetrate the shield of my forest moon.

And then we shared a pudding cup.

Posted by: Greta V.S. at May 30, 2012 07:54 PM (dhm4S)

405 401 The CDC in Baton rouge handles Hansen's Disease.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 07:54 PM (Fy6L7)

406 Just taking inventory.

Posted by: fluffy at May 30, 2012 07:54 PM (z9HTb)

407 give at least one of Shep's shows to Kilmeade? Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2012 12:49 AM (piMMO) Julia Banderas, would work in a pinch also

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 30, 2012 07:54 PM (RQjPS)

408 For the morons who missed it earlier, Kerry Picket's voluptuous lips are on the Hannity repeat now.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 07:54 PM (piMMO)

409 My kids are vaccinated against measles. So if you don't vaccinate yours and they should happen to contract it, how are my kids endangered?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille, Wiseacre Latina at May 31, 2012 12:18 AM


Infants and young children aren't fully vaccinated against those diseases until they have completed the full series of shots, so they are at risk from other unvaccinated people.  They rely 100% on herd immunity for protection.  Also, vaccines are not 100% effective, so even those people who are vaccinated rely on herd immunity to some extent.  It depends on the vaccines, but most herd immunity breaks down somewhere around a 95% rate of vaccination in the population.  In some parts of the Seattle area (where I live) there is a 75% vaccination rate in kindergarteners in the public school system (and similar low rates in older children).  This is well below the point where herd immunity breaks down, and as a result we have an epidemic of whooping cough.

I really don't like the idea of the government forcing anyone to do anything, but we do force parents to get certain medical treatment for their kids because at some point the kids' welfare takes precedence over the parent's right decisions. When my daughter was in the NICU and we were asked to sign a consent form for a blood transfusion the doctor made it perfectly clear that if we didn't sign they would do it anyway because my daughter's life was at risk.  I was fine with that (not that I would have refused anyway).  For vaccines, I think it is perfectly reasonable to require vaccines for enrollment in public school.  You don't want to vaccinate, then home school your kids or send them to a private school that allows that.  There may be some exceptions for specific medical reasons, but none for "personal beliefs."  The problem in Washington state is that you can be exempted without any reason at all, so a lot of people don't.  There are also a lot of hippies here who think vaccines are "toxins" and "unnatural".

Posted by: not the mama at May 30, 2012 07:55 PM (96Kco)

410 Maet, Thanks for the cage rattling top post.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 07:56 PM (Fy6L7)

411 sorry, I swear that post had paragraph separators.. not sure what happened to them.

Posted by: not the mama at May 30, 2012 07:56 PM (96Kco)

412 I see that. I believe in the Sopranos those sort of iips were referred to as "pipe-fitter" lips.

Posted by: thunderb at May 30, 2012 07:56 PM (Dnbau)

413 411 No problem you made your point beautifully. We have the same problem with whooping cough in California. The illegal population doesn't help either.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 07:58 PM (Fy6L7)

414 We are vaccinating our kids for everything. The world is melting down, keeping the kidd-o's safe

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 30, 2012 07:59 PM (RQjPS)

415 Moron Present

Posted by: Zakn at May 30, 2012 07:59 PM (2TqDD)

416 Thanks for the cage rattling top post.
Posted by: mpfs at May 31, 2012 12:56 AM (Fy6L7)


Hey it could have been circumcision or <shudder> why people get fat.

Posted by: Mtenloch at May 30, 2012 07:59 PM (VDusq)

417 416 Maet you are an unruly brat. You need to be punished.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 08:01 PM (Fy6L7)

418 The illegal population doesn't help either. Posted by: mpfs at May 31, 2012 12:58 AM (Fy6L7) The illegals are at least 70% of the prob. Thei anti vaccint libs are 25% of the prob. after that it is something else

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 30, 2012 08:01 PM (RQjPS)

419 The illegals are at least 70% of the prob. Thei anti vaccint libs are 25% of the prob.

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 31, 2012 01:01 AM (RQjPS)



Your numbers are conservative with regards to the illegals ... but I'd be an asshole for pointing that out, evidently.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 30, 2012 08:02 PM (X3lox)

420 419 Tonight you are an asshole. Night all. I have to forcibly vaccinate innocent children in the morning.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 08:03 PM (Fy6L7)

421 Posted by: not the mama at May 31, 2012 12:55 AM (96Kco) Well said! Disease is a scourge about as old as humanity itself. Vaccinations are a cheap and effective way to defend people against many plagues and epidemics that beset us in the past.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 30, 2012 08:05 PM (uB19f)

422 Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say "Jeronimo!" at will to old ladies in airplanes. There is a pestilence upon this land, nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history.

[shrugs]

Posted by: Roger the Shrugger at May 30, 2012 08:05 PM (0Ohos)

423 Your numbers are conservative with regards to the illegals ... but I'd be an asshole for pointing that out, evidently. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 31, 2012 01:02 AM (X3lox) No way bro! I didn't want to be a HATER so I watered it all down some my initial post was 95% illegal

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 30, 2012 08:05 PM (RQjPS)

424 Wrong... libtards are at least 57% of the problem... of the problems of the US.  They're out to wreck the country and all we hold true and they're at their zenith and they must know, if not now... they're screwed.  Angst goes to 11 in November if they lose.  Watch for massive lame-duck BS from the left

Posted by: Yip in Texas at May 30, 2012 08:06 PM (Mrdk1)

425 Hey it could have been circumcision or why people get fat. Posted by: Mætenloch at May 31, 2012 12:59 AM (VDusq) __________________ People get fat because they were vaccinated. Duh.

Posted by: jenny tries too hard at May 30, 2012 08:07 PM (snRY5)

426 Tonight you are an asshole. Night all. I have to forcibly vaccinate innocent children in the morning. Posted by: mpfs at May 31, 2012 01:03 AM (Fy6L7) disease just does not pop up out of nowhere, who brings it into the USA? birds?

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 30, 2012 08:07 PM (RQjPS)

427 When is Holder going to do something about this sonofabitch? http://bit.ly/Ks78i9 Nevermind....

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 08:08 PM (piMMO)

428 426 Ask Kratos.

Posted by: mpfs at May 30, 2012 08:09 PM (Fy6L7)

429 Good evening again.

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 08:09 PM (4ixH5)

430 Our President now about the slow-jam on Jimmy Fallon.... in case you missed it the first time

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 08:11 PM (piMMO)

431 You need to be punished. Ooooooo, spanking?!

Posted by: Zut at May 30, 2012 08:12 PM (LOmQM)

432 Hey it could have been circumcision or why people get fat. Posted by: Mætenloch at May 31, 2012 12:59 AM (VDusq) Oh, shit. There goes the aggro thread.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 30, 2012 08:14 PM (bxiXv)

433 so much ghosting in Sonic Generations

decent game otherwise

Posted by: The Dude at May 30, 2012 08:15 PM (tw6Ar)

434 so is the ONT down to 7 morons/ etes plus 40 lurkers? anyone??

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 30, 2012 08:15 PM (RQjPS)

435 Hey it could have been circumcision or why people get fat. You left out asparagus & it's many "benefits"

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 30, 2012 08:16 PM (LOmQM)

436 I would just like to point out that I've been reading the comments and out of respect for the ONT have resisted the temptation to set my Inner Asshole loose in the face of controversy despite holding a strong opinion. You're welcome.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 30, 2012 08:17 PM (75ggp)

437 Hey it could have been circumcision or why people get fat. Posted by: Mætenloch at May 31, 2012 12:59 AM (VDusq) **** I sent you some ONT ideas last week. I'm guessing they didn't make the cut.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 30, 2012 08:17 PM (piMMO)

438 so is the ONT down to 7 morons/ etes plus 40 lurkers?


Which category am I in?

Posted by: fluffy at May 30, 2012 08:17 PM (z9HTb)

439 disease just does not pop up out of nowhere, who brings it into the USA? birds?
Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 31, 2012 01:07 AM (RQjPS)


Demons and seeping bad humours mostly.

Posted by: Mtenloch at May 30, 2012 08:17 PM (VDusq)

440 "Disease is a scourge about as old as humanity itself. Vaccinations are a cheap and effective way to defend people against many plagues and epidemics that beset us in the past.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 31, 2012 01:05 AM"


Well said, yourself!  The biggest problem with vaccines is that they work too well.  Too many people today have never known anyone disabled by polio or killed by whooping cough, and they are too foolish to care about that which they have never seen with their own eyes.  As the saying goes, "those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

Posted by: not the mama at May 30, 2012 08:18 PM (96Kco)

441 I sent you some ONT ideas last week. I'm guessing they didn't make the cut.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 31, 2012 01:17 AM (piMMO)


Actually I'm totally backlogged so they haven't even been rejected yet.

Posted by: Mtenloch at May 30, 2012 08:19 PM (VDusq)

442

Went into a Tijuana public restroom ONCE. The toilet paper dispenser was a shit smeared rag in a coffee can. I wonder why they seem to have health problems.

Worked with some guatemalans in Del Mar (horse racing). Same thing, they used the toilet paper, but placed the used stuff on the floor next to the toilet. Or they would wait and shit in the shower.

I'm sure there are some who are perfectly clean living, but I never met any, and given the small sampling I've seen of how they live, I'm pro border.

Posted by: Jimmah at May 30, 2012 08:19 PM (cWkOB)

443 disease just does not pop up out of nowhere, who brings it into the USA? birds?
Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 31, 2012 01:07 AM (RQjPS)


Demons and seeping bad humours mostly.

Posted by: Mætenloch at May 31, 2012 01:17 AM (VDusq)


*****

Evil white men and Jews.

Posted by: Louis Farrakhan at May 30, 2012 08:20 PM (piMMO)

444 Demons and seeping bad humours mostly. Posted by: Mætenloch at May 31, 2012 01:17 AM (VDusq) oh, yes forgot those

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 30, 2012 08:20 PM (RQjPS)

445 disease just does not pop up out of nowhere, who brings it into the USA? birds?[\i] Yes, all your sickness comes from the little filthy brown foreigners for, lo, I have made it this way. Marvel at my works and despair.

Posted by: Satan's Barbed Cock at May 30, 2012 08:20 PM (4Pqfm)

446

And then we shared a pudding cup.

Posted by: Greta V.S. at May 31, 2012 12:54 AM (dhm4S)

 

 

You guys got all four of your balls in the same pudding cup? 

...or did you take turns dipping?

Posted by: garrett at May 30, 2012 08:20 PM (Um00N)

447 http://tinyurl.com/86hlwr7

The Race 4 2012 Rumor Mill – Thursday Morning Update


The number stays at 7 and the door is now shut.

The Rumor Mill has heard, according to  information we have received from our sources, that there will be no more additions to “The List.” Gov. Romney’s selection for Vice President will be one of the following candidates:

    Senator of Florida – Marco Rubio
    Senator of Ohio – Rob Portman
    Senator of New Hampshire – Kelly Ayotte
    Governor of New Jersey – Chris Christie
    Governor of Minnesota – Tim Pawlenty
    House of Representative of Washington State – Cathy McMorris Rodgers
    Governor of Louisiana – Bobby Jindal

I understand that many of you here, including me, believed that Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan must be on Mitt Romney’s short list. And many of you may take me to task for his omission. That is fine, as I detest the boredom of “Echo Discussions” and I look forward to your comments in challenging the make-up of The Final 7. But before we take part in one of our epic discussions here at R4’12, let me explain why I believe that Paul Ryan will not be under consideration by Team Romney.

First, I want to say I’m a big supporter of Paul Ryan and I would have no problem in supporting his selection as Vice President. I do believe his selection would secure the election, because it would result in discussions centering around the issues of the budget, the economy, and jobs. The selection of Paul Ryan would take this election away from the silliness of issues such as Rev. Wright, bullying in high school 45 years ago, Donald Trump, personal drug use 30 years ago, and so on.

According to “The Eagle”, the rumor on ” The Hill” is consistent in regards to Paul Ryan’s future: Paul Ryan will be the “Quarterback” for the Romney Administration up on “The Hill.” It is being said that Paul Ryan & Mitt Romney have already had more discussions between the both of them on how they should hit the ground running after the election than President Obama has had discussions with anyone of the Democratic side of capital hill in 3 1/2 years. According to the rumors, discussions have gone into such detail as to how Ryan will present his reform package once Romney has taken the oath of office.  Ryan has been effective in getting some traction with some Democrats, such as Senator Wyden of Oregon, and that progress maybe at risk if the reform push comes the Vice Presidential office, instead  of someone in Congress itself.

Do I believe Ryan is on the VP list right now? Yes. But  it does not seem likely that Ryan will become the Vice Presidential pick.

Posted by: Jose at May 30, 2012 08:21 PM (srIqv)

448 disease just does not pop up out of nowhere, who brings it into the USA? birds? That's one vector, the one example that can readily come to mind is influenza. But you also have to remember that we live in at a time where people traveling great distances is common-place. While is good for humans, an unintended side effect is that all kinds of nasty things are just a plane-trip away. For example, the virus Marburg is of African origin, but it was first identified in humans in Marburg, Germany after plant workers were exposed to infected grivets - http://tinyurl.com/6lusbx

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 30, 2012 08:22 PM (uB19f)

449 I would just like to point out that I've been reading the comments and out of respect for the ONT have resisted the temptation to set my Inner Asshole loose in the face of controversy despite holding a strong opinion.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 31, 2012 01:17 AM (75ggp)


It's only a problem if you hold all the wrong opinions.

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 08:22 PM (4ixH5)

450 I've seen of how they live, I'm pro border. Posted by: Jimmah at May 31, 2012 01:19 AM (cWkOB) one of the distinctions between the first world and the rest is the ability to flush toilet paper. I'm a pro flush, fix yo' dang sewer

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 30, 2012 08:23 PM (RQjPS)

451 Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2012 01:20 AM (Um00N)


M-O-O-N! That spells 'garret'

Posted by: fluffy at May 30, 2012 08:23 PM (z9HTb)

452 disease just does not pop up out of nowhere, who brings it into the USA? birds? Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 31, 2012 01:07 AM (RQjPS) You may be on to something. We think it might be foreigners. Or maybe blankets.

Posted by: Small-Pox-Stricken Native Americans at May 30, 2012 08:24 PM (snRY5)

453

Always love a new Hash.

Posted by: garrett at May 30, 2012 08:25 PM (WnY+k)

454 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 31, 2012 01:22 AM (uB19f) I think West Nile falls into that also

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 30, 2012 08:25 PM (RQjPS)

455

Posted by: Jimmah at May 31, 2012 01:19 AM (cWkOB)


You know who's the worst about that?


Indians.


And I don't mean the feathery kind.

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 08:26 PM (4ixH5)

456 On another ONT topic, do the networks still respect anonymity when it comes to interviews of anonymous bloggers?  I don't recall that happening much nowadays, but I also don't watch many television news reports.

Posted by: not the mama at May 30, 2012 08:28 PM (96Kco)

457 79

had to look it up as it was bugging me.

That's COLONEL Jackson not General.

I thought my memory was getting worse. (if that's possible so I got concerned)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at May 30, 2012 08:29 PM (CP+yl)

458 On the news?

Did try and eat someone's face?

Posted by: garrett at May 30, 2012 08:31 PM (WnY+k)

459 82:

what, Jackson Hole?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at May 30, 2012 08:31 PM (CP+yl)

460 cheese curds, cheese curds
lovely lovely cheese curds

Posted by: The Dude at May 30, 2012 08:31 PM (tw6Ar)

461 409- Thanks for that answer. Good post. In Virginia I believe the only public-school exemptions are for medical or religious reasons, both strictly interpreted. Private schools over a certain size must follow state policy too. They do exempt very small schools and things like home-school co-ops, but I imagine this population would not be so large as to upset the "herd immunity" you speak of. (Many, if not most, of those kids would be vaccinated anyway.) We have had a couple of isolated outbreaks of pertussis and I have heard that some districts in N Va are asking teachers to get boosters this year. But the situation is far better than what it appears to be in Wash.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille, Wiseacre Latina at May 30, 2012 08:32 PM (C8mVl)

462 Beware! -  Lean Ewok on Premises

Posted by: AoSHQ Yard Signage at May 30, 2012 08:32 PM (WnY+k)

463 Posted by: not the mama at May 31, 2012 01:28 AM (96Kco) It's a thought I've had the past few days following the news of that Kimmy shithead and the fact that one of his associates wants to "out" our boy. Check it out, he's right there! He's out! There ya go. Zombie is a perfect example of being anonymous. Don't know her name, don't know what she looks like...hell, we don't even really know if she's a she. We just have a fairly reasonable assumption of that.

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 08:33 PM (4ixH5)

464 You know who's the worst about that?
Indians.
And I don't mean the feathery kind.

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2012 01:26 AM (4ixH5)

-----

I have a hard time buying the excuse that their plumbing wont handle it where they used to live. When you go to a place that it does work, use it. I could be wrong, but it seems like  not shitting on the ground skills would take about a half second to pick up.

Posted by: Jimmah at May 30, 2012 08:33 PM (cWkOB)

465 @449- Oh, my opinion is plenty right. My presentation of said opinion in an ONT almost certainly wouldn't be, however. I'll just say that I hold the anti-vaccine fanatics in the same low regard as Truthers and other such people, and am not likely to address them in a civil tone.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 30, 2012 08:34 PM (75ggp)

466

Huge pertusis outbreak in rural Montana this Winter / Spring.

 

Posted by: garrett at May 30, 2012 08:34 PM (WnY+k)

467 Sure likes talking with his hands, doesn't he?

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 08:34 PM (4ixH5)

468 >>> Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say "Jeronimo!" at will to old ladies in airplanes.

Scary, scary in indeed.


Posted by: Liz "Granny" Warren, first Injun woman to nurse while skydiving at May 30, 2012 08:35 PM (dhm4S)

469

Ace sure likes talking with his hands, doesn't he?

 

Three Snaps Up!

Posted by: Damon Wayans at May 30, 2012 08:36 PM (WnY+k)

470

Posted by: Jimmah at May 31, 2012 01:33 AM (cWkOB)


I think it has less to do with functioning plumbing and more to do with being malicious assholes.  


I have a whole rant on this but it inevitbably goes to a place that makes me look...diminished might be a good word.

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 08:38 PM (4ixH5)

471 Oh, my opinion is plenty right. My presentation of said opinion in an ONT almost certainly wouldn't be, however. I'll just say that I hold the anti-vaccine fanatics in the same low regard as Truthers and other such people, and am not likely to address them in a civil tone. Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 31, 2012 01:34 AM (75ggp) Civil, pffffftttt!!!! Civil is for sucks. Live a little!

Posted by: Robert, egging folks on at May 30, 2012 08:40 PM (4ixH5)

472 ...shouldn't he get the silhouette in front of a bright window treatment, or at least a pair of sunglasses and a nice hoodie?
Posted by: not the mama at May 31, 2012 01:28 AM
--------------------
He wears a skin suit for interviews. It covers the body hair.

Posted by: Contemplative Lobster at May 30, 2012 08:41 PM (dKWiU)

473 Good news!

http://tinyurl.com/7baqodr

Report: Chavez's Cancer Has Entered End Stage

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 08:41 PM (4ixH5)

474 "Posted by: Margarita DeVille, Wiseacre Latina at May 31, 2012 01:32 AM"

That policy sounds a lot more reasonable.  Here they just recently required people requesting an exemption to get a doctor's note saying they have been informed about vaccines and still decline, but that's it.  I'm extra sensitive about the issue right now because I'm getting ready to have a baby in a few weeks and there is a crazy amount of whooping cough going around here.  One more thing to worry about that we really shouldn't have to

Posted by: not the mama at May 30, 2012 08:41 PM (96Kco)

475 And can someone please pull Mike Bloomberg's head out of his ass?

http://tinyurl.com/89rlju4

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 08:42 PM (4ixH5)

476 It's only a problem if you hold all the wrong opinions. Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2012 01:22 AM (4ixH5) ***** you rang? :-)

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at May 30, 2012 08:43 PM (ZiYQG)

477 gotta get back to work. Peace out ONT'ers** **fukk the commie basterds!

Posted by: moron #4/jake at May 30, 2012 08:43 PM (RQjPS)

478

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2012 01:42 AM (4ixH5)

 

It's just a tax grab. 

Why tax them only once on 32 oz. when you can tax them 4 times?

Posted by: garrett at May 30, 2012 08:45 PM (WnY+k)

479 @476- Well played.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 30, 2012 08:46 PM (75ggp)

480 you rang? :-) Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at May 31, 2012 01:43 AM (ZiYQG) Hola!

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 08:47 PM (4ixH5)

481 Good night, Jake!

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 08:48 PM (4ixH5)

482 It's just a tax grab.
Why tax them only once on 32 oz. when you can tax them 4 times?

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2012 01:45 AM (WnY+k)


I think Bloomie should lick my balls.  It's just a sack of flesh and hair slightly soaked in salty sweat.

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 08:49 PM (4ixH5)

483 ~~~I think it has less to do with functioning plumbing and more to do with being malicious assholes.
I have a whole rant on this but it inevitbably goes to a place that makes me look...diminished might be a good word.~~~

Do tell? If only a small rant. There are more feathery people in my neck of the woods.  I would have to travel to Dallas to find the dots.

Posted by: Fozalgerts at May 30, 2012 08:50 PM (Pr8hY)

484 Someone posted this on the Book that is a Face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCJCJuKXl8A

Have I mentioned my deep borderline unhealthy and possbily deviant love of Megadeth lately?

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 08:50 PM (4ixH5)

485 Bloomberg is in more desperate need of an ass whupping than any other "Republican" in office. He defines "living in a bubble".

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 30, 2012 08:51 PM (75ggp)

486 goodnight everyone. happy hobo hunting. be careful of the face-eaters.

Posted by: not the mama at May 30, 2012 08:51 PM (96Kco)

487 Do tell? If only a small rant. There are more feathery people in my neck of the woods. I would have to travel to Dallas to find the dots.

Posted by: Fozalgerts at May 31, 2012 01:50 AM (Pr8hY)


Don't...tempt me, Frodo!

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 08:51 PM (4ixH5)

488 'sup Robert, and Hollowpoint. Been too long. Work and travel have picked up insanely and I've been reduced to intermittent lurking. Nice to know the neighborhood is still as frightening as ever. :-) Robert, you won't believe the tour I'm doing later this year...knowing you, you might already have a ticket!

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at May 30, 2012 08:51 PM (ZiYQG)

489 Good night, Not The Mama!

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 08:52 PM (4ixH5)

490

Have I mentioned my deep borderline unhealthy and possbily deviant love of Megadeth lately?

 

You know, it's a crime that I don't own ANY Megadeth on Vinyl. 

Megadeth never made it out of the casette period for me. 

 I will remedy this.

Posted by: garrett at May 30, 2012 08:53 PM (WnY+k)

491 Bloomies' head isn't up his ass, it's in the clouds. Dreaming about how he's going to nanny his way to the presidency. If only the Shvartza in there now doesn't make a democrat president impossible for the next 50  years.

Of course that won't bother Bloomie cause he'll just change his party registration back to Republican.

Trouble is his idea of Republican is more in line with 18th century France. the removal of royalty doomed France to be governed by tyrants, dictators and other assorted hoodlums and thugs who could be polite to the bourgeois merchant classes and appear egalitarian all the while acting like a 3rd century berber prince.

I'd guess he has a secret room where he strut's around in his First Citizen of the Republic costume with his hand in his frock.

He's a pusillanimous pompous pipsqueak that needs to be permanently disbarred from running for office. Bloomie doesn't think he knows better what you need, he KNOWS it. Hey he's rich so that proves it right there.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at May 30, 2012 08:53 PM (CP+yl)

492 474- Ah! Very good reason to be sensitive!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 30, 2012 08:53 PM (C8mVl)

493 http://tinyurl.com/87dhcr2

Posted by: The Dude at May 30, 2012 08:54 PM (tw6Ar)

494 Ugh. I have to work all weekend. Upshot, more dough for hookers and blow in Vegas

Posted by: Zakn at May 30, 2012 08:56 PM (qFBtt)

495 you won't believe the tour I'm doing later this year...knowing you, you might already have a ticket!

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at May 31, 2012 01:51 AM (ZiYQG)


I SAW!


Gonna have to pinch me pennies!

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 08:57 PM (4ixH5)

496 Hi Liberal Reader. Godspeed in your travels.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 30, 2012 08:57 PM (75ggp)

497

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at May 31, 2012 01:51 AM (ZiYQG)

 

 

You going to be anywhere near Montana?

 

Posted by: garrett at May 30, 2012 08:59 PM (WnY+k)

498 Thanks Hollow - back atcha, even if they're only local. Robert - heh, I figured you'd know about it. If you can make it, which city would you go to??

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at May 30, 2012 09:00 PM (ZiYQG)

499 Any of the four people still in the thread see Men In Black 3 yet? Worth sneaking a flask into the theater for?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 30, 2012 09:01 PM (75ggp)

500 Moron#4  -   Some of us worker bees are popping in and out and will continue to do so up to the morning post w/Vic's updates...  Robert singlehandledly dragged last night's ONT past the satanic debbil numeric that shall not be named....

Posted by: zeera at May 30, 2012 09:02 PM (XtxRN)

501 @Garrett - does Edmonton or Winnipeg or Calgary count? BTW, I love Montana. Spent a night in Wisdom, snowmobiled the whole loop in Yellowstone, drank too much in Bozeman, had the best country breakfast of my life in Glendale (east MT)...love it.

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at May 30, 2012 09:02 PM (ZiYQG)

502 Any of the four people still in the thread see Men In Black 3 yet? Worth sneaking a flask into the theater for?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 31, 2012 02:01 AM (75ggp)


eh, it's okay. Not Good but not bad, I think it was worth the early matinee special

Posted by: The Dude at May 30, 2012 09:03 PM (tw6Ar)

503 Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at May 31, 2012 02:00 AM (ZiYQG) San Antonio would be the nearest. Hhhmmmm...my brother lives in San Antonio. *Gears grind, numbers crunch, hamster exhausted*

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 09:05 PM (4ixH5)

504

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at May 31, 2012 02:02 AM (ZiYQG)

 

Next time you are going to be up here, let me know and I'll take you fishing and shit.  We have it good up here. 

Calgary isn't too far, but I'd need to get a f'n passport to go across the border.  [Thanks, goatfuckers.]

But I could be convinved to head to Boise around the 4th of July...

Posted by: garrett at May 30, 2012 09:06 PM (WnY+k)

505 Ergh, gotta go to bed. Flying again tomorrow morning. Good to see the very few of you still here. Robert, I'll check here tomorrow morning to see where you might end up...

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at May 30, 2012 09:06 PM (ZiYQG)

506 Hey Kids,


I figger both the skydiver pro and the 1st timer arrived on the ground in need of new undies.

Posted by: jc at May 30, 2012 09:07 PM (ufJKx)

507 Any of the four people still in the thread see Men In Black 3 yet? Worth sneaking a flask into the theater for?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 31, 2012 02:01 AM (75ggp)


Haven't seen it yet but it HAS to be better than MIB II.  What a piece of shit that movie was.  I know most of the Critics at AICN seem to enjoy it.  I figure if Josh Brolin sells his role it'll be good.  Will Smith is starting to look weird in middle age.

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 09:07 PM (4ixH5)

508 @502- Thanks. "not bad" is about as good as it usually gets for a third sequel.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 30, 2012 09:08 PM (75ggp)

509 MSM saying Obama is bringing unemployment down. I think Obama is going to reduce 99 weeks to make unemployment numbers look better (but just as many will be unemployed ) to get re elected.

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 09:08 PM (lkdo/)

510 Good night, Lib!

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 09:08 PM (4ixH5)

511 Howdy, JC!

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 09:09 PM (4ixH5)

512 supposed to have two work field trips coming up to see Snow White and Prometheus. Should be interesting as bossman is footing the bill for everyone

Posted by: The Dude at May 30, 2012 09:11 PM (tw6Ar)

513 Robert, you caught me, I'm still here. Tell you what - San Antonio is a city where I hardly know anyone, so there is a guest list possibility...call it a gesture of goodwill from the resident liberal. Can you reach me on the interwebz outside of here? If so, do so. If not, I'll come back and we'll figure this out. For real. And the night-after-show's ONT will be epic. Garrett - that sounds awesome! Wife and I will be back at some point...

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at May 30, 2012 09:12 PM (ZiYQG)

514 As an experienced foreign traveller, I carry a tp pack with sanitizing wipes with me at all times. If it is a short trip, I start popping the immodium on the outbound flight.

Posted by: Jean at May 30, 2012 09:14 PM (Pvjul)

515

G - that sounds awesome! Wife and I will be back at some point...

 

No problem.  Just let me know when and I'll get you my info.

Posted by: garrett at May 30, 2012 09:15 PM (WnY+k)

516 Meow.

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 09:22 PM (lkdo/)

517 When I travel I make sure there's enough alcohol in my stomach to combat any bacteria. Following this rule I've eaten Mexican and Jamaican street food without issue.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 30, 2012 09:25 PM (75ggp)

518 Grivets?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 30, 2012 09:25 PM (kaalw)

519 Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at May 31, 2012 02:12 AM (ZiYQG) Dude! Wow, man, I don't know what to say. Thanks, dude.

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 09:27 PM (4ixH5)

520 Following this rule I've eaten Mexican and Jamaican street food without issue.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 31, 2012 02:25 AM (75ggp)


fucking ballsy

Posted by: The Dude at May 30, 2012 09:28 PM (tw6Ar)

521 Anyone been to Munich?

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 09:28 PM (lkdo/)

522 Meow.


BARKBARK GGGRRRRRRR  BARKBARK BARKBARKBARK

Posted by: Pit Bull at May 30, 2012 09:29 PM (4ixH5)

523 The Yes Scotland (independence) movement seems to be growing

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 09:29 PM (lkdo/)

524 Peta is going to euthanize pit bull.

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 09:30 PM (lkdo/)

525 "Violence, domination, and bullying happen behind closed doors, on street corners, and in schoolyards, but they also happen in the kitchen. When the victims are fish, their screams go unheard. " PETA May 30, 2012

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 09:32 PM (lkdo/)

526 lol, as more people get the 670 Top, more fanboys raging at each other on which is better, the Windforce or the DC2 Top

Posted by: The Dude at May 30, 2012 09:32 PM (tw6Ar)

527 Have a friend who is a docent at the Alamo. Had a good time there on my last trip, wrote a bunch of hard questions on index cards and passed them out to others on the tour just to see him squirm.

Posted by: Jean at May 30, 2012 09:32 PM (Pvjul)

528 "people who eat fish aren't vegetarian. Irrespective of what plants do or don't experience doesn't mean that making every attempt to minimize proven suffering among our fellow beings on this planet isn't a worthy endeavor. We should applaud people who are selfless enough to put aside their hedonistic tastes and desires in order to to extend compassion towards all species--including fish." PETA

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 09:34 PM (lkdo/)

529 Fish do not have a brain

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 09:35 PM (lkdo/)

530 I liberal told me that I eat animals because I enjoy suffering

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 09:36 PM (lkdo/)

531 I hope that my kids will still be able to grill dead animals in the future. No pigs are not adorable

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 09:38 PM (lkdo/)

532 Hollowpoint, I've tried that - that where the immodium kicks in, and the cipro, but mostly the cipro. My rule is that it has to be hot enough to burn my fingers AND spicy enough to make me cry.

Posted by: Jean at May 30, 2012 09:38 PM (Pvjul)

533 Lampshade, tears are salty and sweet

Posted by: Jean at May 30, 2012 09:40 PM (Pvjul)

534 519 Grivets?

Posted by: cthulhu at May 31, 2012 02:25 AM (kaalw)


===


They are like Gscrews and Gnails, but you have to install them with a Griveter.  Grosie was famous for her Griveting back in WWII.

Posted by: jc at May 30, 2012 09:40 PM (ufJKx)

535 "Doctors are among the best-paid public sector employees - and as such they also have the most lucrative pensions. The average hospital consultant retiring today will enjoy a pension of £48,000 a year and a lump sum of over £140,000. Among public-sector pensions being paid out, doctors account for two-thirds of the top 1% of pay outs." BBC News 5/30/12

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 09:41 PM (lkdo/)

536 "Contributions will rise the greatest for the highest earners. Those earning over £110,000 a year will end up contributing 14.5% of their salary. Many may understand that approach, but doctors believe they are being unfairly targeted. They point out that the top-paid civil servants will not be hit in the same way - and that perceived injustice has put the profession at loggerheads with the government" BBC news

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 09:42 PM (lkdo/)

537 British doctors are anxious about their pensions.

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 09:43 PM (lkdo/)

538 That's OK, British pensioners are anxious about their doctors.

Posted by: jc at May 30, 2012 09:44 PM (ufJKx)

539 Emergency care will still be provided in britain. Non urgent care is being targeted due to pension cuts

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 09:47 PM (lkdo/)

540 If anyone gives me shit about hunting and fishing, I plan on asking them why they're so intolerant of Native American culture. I'm as white as one can get without being albino, but thanks to Liz Warren they'll not know that.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at May 30, 2012 09:48 PM (75ggp)

541 My dentist was jealous of his fireman buddy who got a good pension. Wonder if doc pensions are coming to USA

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 09:50 PM (lkdo/)

542 All those smsll towns without doctord should be advertising in the daily mail after the topledd pics.

Posted by: Jean at May 30, 2012 09:52 PM (Pvjul)

543 come on wallpaperstock, download me so decent wallpapers for a change

Posted by: The Dude at May 30, 2012 09:54 PM (tw6Ar)

544 459 82:

what, Jackson Hole?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at May 31, 2012 01:31 AM (CP+yl)


**************


Jacksonville, I believe.


Night, all

Posted by: Boomer Redneque wants to know if it's November yet at May 30, 2012 09:54 PM (eQnzo)

545

I frankly, was shocked to read about a case of TYPHUS in So-Cal.

This is the direct result of the breakdown in funding that is being sucked into the overall attempt by.....wait for it.......JERRY "MOONBEAM" BROWN to play the dutch-boy plugging the dike....and robbing from programs that were BY STATE LAW!!!!! stand alone funds for specific issues ONLY!!!!Just like the 9-11 Ca License Plates to help family members that was raided by that ASS MAGGOT ARNOLD and THE present ASS Maggot Jerry!

 

GGGGRRRRrrrrrr......

 

Posted by: Richard at May 30, 2012 09:57 PM (zt5qx)

546 Ce n'est pas ce qu'on me dit.

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 09:59 PM (lkdo/)

547 I read that doctors want to unionize in USA

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 10:00 PM (lkdo/)

548 hi richard! I missed you. im just peeking in tonight

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at May 30, 2012 10:04 PM (r7Ddb)

549 http://tiny.cc/obv5ew How to do the Hustle. Cute.

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 10:06 PM (lkdo/)

550 547 I read that doctors want to unionize in USA

Posted by: Lampshade at May 31, 2012 03:00 AM (lkdo/)


===


I'll take what is the "American Medical Association (AMA)" for $800, Alex.

Posted by: jc at May 30, 2012 10:06 PM (ufJKx)

551 I miss the 70's

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 10:06 PM (lkdo/)

552

547

Can you blame them? Given the present state of affairs with medicine and the attempt by "BIG OBAMA GOVERNMENT" to tell them how they will practice......yup...circle the wagons for sure....and get some firearm training with your next CE's

Posted by: Richard at May 30, 2012 10:07 PM (zt5qx)

553 http://tiny.cc/obv5ew The start of modern porno

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 10:08 PM (lkdo/)

554 I'll take what is the "American Medical Association (AMA)" for $800, Alex. haha

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 10:08 PM (lkdo/)

555 robert i think the typhus is coming in to California from Mexico. some of those people living in camper shell villages in the central valley dont have proper sanitation

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at May 30, 2012 10:09 PM (r7Ddb)

556 551 I miss the 70's Posted by: Lampshade at May 31, 2012 03:06 AM

So the last I.Q. test slipped down to the 60's, eh?  I'm sure you'll find the windows to still taste as sweet.

Posted by: irright at May 30, 2012 10:09 PM (RzLbD)

557 an you blame them? Given the present state of affairs with medicine and the attempt by "BIG OBAMA GOVERNMENT" to tell them how they will practice......yup...circle the wagons for sure....and get some firearm training with your next CE's My doc is a progressive. He is for Obamacare and union

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 10:10 PM (lkdo/)

558 irright 0 IQ here

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 10:11 PM (lkdo/)

559

548

I'll be good tonight.......cross my heart....hope to die....stick a needle in.....hhhmmmmmm....maybe not!

Posted by: Richard at May 30, 2012 10:11 PM (zt5qx)

560 559
548
I'll be good tonight.......cross my heart....hope to die....stick a needle in.....hhhmmmmmm....maybe not!

Posted by: Richard at May 31, 2012 03:11 AM (zt5qx)



how about lets just pinky promise ok?

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at May 30, 2012 10:13 PM (r7Ddb)

561 Motown http://tiny.cc/tpv5ew

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 10:14 PM (lkdo/)

562 lionel richie All Night Long

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 10:16 PM (lkdo/)

563 Pinky promise that I will not let this.....no can't say that....promise that.....no the SECRET SERVICE will be all over that too...O.K.....I'LL be.........HOBO-GOOD.......and clean my socks.....with hot water and soap!

Posted by: Richard at May 30, 2012 10:18 PM (zt5qx)

564 ABC Jackson 5, Shop Around (Smokey Robinson), War (Edwin Star),

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 10:19 PM (lkdo/)

565 I just saw this post in the NY times comments " Obama is a progressive social reformer,a liberal activist and the most cultivated man in the United States." lol

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 10:25 PM (lkdo/)

566

WAR..HUUU...GOOD GOD YOU...WHAT.. IS IT GOOD FOR?>>>ABSOLUTLEY..NOTHING......SAY IT AGAIN>>>>"YOULLL!!!

WAR....HUUU...."GOOD GOD YOU....WHAT IS GOOD FOR

um...taking out our enemies?...And we do it so well when we have the will!

We do it so well, at least by the standards of warfare, we do it so well when we can keep the leftist, peaceniks, hippies, Obamanit's,commie's somewhere .....else. When we can do that......we win all wars....and THAT is what they fear most. Because that proves AMERICA is the best ideal.

Posted by: Richard at May 30, 2012 10:37 PM (zt5qx)

567 Now some people want USA to fund the slums in Kibera (community support group). Liberal guilt?

Posted by: Lampshade at May 30, 2012 10:41 PM (lkdo/)

568 The thing .....or primary foci/gradient that is the liberal disease, at least within the U.S.A, takes it's roots back to the 1920's and a rather slanted view of some form of "Master Race Theology"" that was popular then, out of which came the "Planned Parenthood" theology....which in turned morphed into the present day offering which is known as the PARTY OF DONKEY.....which from a purely slack jaw view is..........in need of an immediate...smoking hole in the ground....I would still send flowers though.......

Posted by: Richard at May 30, 2012 10:58 PM (zt5qx)

569 Grrr...stupid browser!

I'm thinking of ditching Firefox altogether at this point.

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 11:12 PM (4ixH5)

570 Howdy, Richard!

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 11:12 PM (4ixH5)

571 Firefox keeps crashing on me. Of course, I've got 18 zillion tabs open on it while I catch up from the weekend......

Posted by: cthulhu at May 30, 2012 11:14 PM (kaalw)

572 i think the typhus is coming in to California from Mexico. some of those people living in camper shell villages in the central valley dont have proper sanitation

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at May 31, 2012 03:09 AM (r7Ddb)


You bring the typhus, I'll bring the TB.  PARTAY!

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 11:19 PM (4ixH5)

573 Firefox keeps crashing on me. Of course, I've got 18 zillion tabs open on it while I catch up from the weekend......

Posted by: cthulhu at May 31, 2012 04:14 AM (kaalw)


Yeah, I went through Insty earlier.  I got a fraction of what you have open, maybe a million and a half.

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 11:19 PM (4ixH5)

574
You bring the typhus, I'll bring the TB. PARTAY!

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2012 04:19 AM (4ixH5)


how about cat scratch fever? im good at that!

Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at May 30, 2012 11:34 PM (r7Ddb)

575 how about cat scratch fever? im good at that! Posted by: gushka haz a new Kitty what plays fetch! ! at May 31, 2012 04:34 AM (r7Ddb) I make a pussy purr with the stroke of my hand and they *know* they're gettin' it from me.

Posted by: Ted Nugent at May 30, 2012 11:41 PM (4ixH5)

576 www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCJux_7W2i8


Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 11:42 PM (4ixH5)

577 www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7ZkGk-x2H0

Now with more Dimebag goodness!

Posted by: Robert at May 30, 2012 11:43 PM (4ixH5)

578 Dragon has been unberthed from the ISS and is scheduled to be released at 5:35 am EDT: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/ustream.html The deorbit burn will be at 10:51 am EDT and splashdown at 11:44.

Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2012 12:15 AM (sdi6R)

579 Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2012 05:15 AM (sdi6R) This is the final test. They do this and that's your private space industry right there. Hopin' for the best!

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2012 12:26 AM (4ixH5)

580 Somebody said during the press conference yesterday that this flight will be considered a success even if Dragon is lost during re-entry. None of the other ISS cargo vehicles have the capability of returning to Earth.

Posted by: rickl at May 31, 2012 12:31 AM (sdi6R)

581 Don't burn up anyway. DON'T BURN, DRAGON!

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2012 12:49 AM (4ixH5)

582 Goddamn, I'm starving.

I don't know if I should stick to a bowl of Fiber One and an orange or scramble me some eggs.

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2012 12:50 AM (4ixH5)

583 Morning, morons. Robert, why don't you be a man about it and gulp down half a dozen fried eggs with a huge slab of bacon before waking up the wife to demand oral gratification before heading off for work? That's what I would do. If I wasn't too scared.

Posted by: CoolCzech at May 31, 2012 01:24 AM (niZvt)

584 Good morning! Worth pointing out that he "research" McCarthy based her recommendation on was shown to be completely 100 percent fraud committed by the doctor. Flat out falsification of evidence. Big Hollywood talked about it last year I think.

Posted by: Elizabethe from elsewhere at May 31, 2012 01:27 AM (nHtaS)

585 Robert, have eggs. So much better for you.

Posted by: Elizabethe from elsewhere at May 31, 2012 01:28 AM (nHtaS)

586 As the Dad of a (mildly) autistic kid I can certainly sympathize with McCarthy's need for a scapegoat to help her deal with her son's condition. But advocating that millions of kids be exposed to deadly diseases just to make her feel better is just wrong.

Posted by: CoolCzech at May 31, 2012 01:30 AM (niZvt)

587 585 Robert, have eggs. So much better for you. Posted by: Elizabethe from elsewhere at May 31, 2012 06:28 AM (nHtaS) But what about the wifely oral satisfaction?

Posted by: CoolCzech at May 31, 2012 01:32 AM (niZvt)

588 I was expecting the latest Jenny McCarthy spread.. 

Posted by: newmike at May 31, 2012 01:53 AM (1OLmL)

589 That third number needs updating. http://www.naturalnews.com/035787_vaccines_autism_monkeys.html Is this true? To what extent is it true? What is the correlation between the incidence in monkeys and the incidence in humans? Who knows? The drug companies are absolutely opposed actually doing the sort of double-blind tests that would establish a baseline for figuring out what is really going on. They prefer bald assertions. Also: the 888 number needs sourcing. Saying "this would have happened if ..." is never an absolute, because, guess what, it didn't happen.

Posted by: Rollory at May 31, 2012 01:55 AM (kFIsy)

590 Posted by: CoolCzech at May 31, 2012 06:24 AM (niZvt) Sounds like a great idea! I just need a wife.

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2012 02:05 AM (4ixH5)

591 have eggs. So much better for you.

Posted by: Elizabethe from elsewhere at May 31, 2012 06:28 AM (nHtaS)


In all things, when a pretty goil tells a man to do something it's recommended that he does it.


Will do, capn!

Posted by: Robert at May 31, 2012 02:06 AM (4ixH5)

592 These same anti-vaccine idiots are probably on the pill.

Posted by: Dagny at May 31, 2012 02:25 AM (9ybEY)

593 History repeats. There was movement to ban college football 100 years ago.

Posted by: zmdavid at May 31, 2012 02:42 AM (97JUW)

594 Ok I've read the whole thread, and I can't believe no one mentioned that conspiracy nut RFK jr's role in the vaccine mess. And his cheating on his late wife probably didnt help her mental health issues. Yeah that's a cheap shot, but the guy deserves it.

Posted by: stace at May 31, 2012 03:02 AM (dmKLd)

595 What you say about vaccines is not so. Gardasil is an example of a vaccine, not well tested, very profitable, whose benefits are far less than its dangers. People have been killed, or severly disabled from gardasil.

Also, big pharm defends its turf quite well. When doctors publish results on the danger of vaccines, other big pharm doctors make massive personal attacks. See also the recent piece on the world's most popular drug, Lipitor, where it does not give anyone a longer life, and causes terrible side effects. But big pharm cooks the data and keeps selling profit. And Merck with its pain med that caused a 500% rise in heart attacks.  

It turns out that since we went to having over 100 vaccinations for a lifetime, our rates of autism, asthma, and neurological problems have exploded....and now every fifth child ends up with some sort of neurological disorder. Studies in rats show exactly how this mechanism works.

Perhaps an actress is not the smartest advocate. But, she brings about an important reality. This is an area where big money is preventing careful thoughtful science. You should spend a few days looking at "the greater good" and reviewing some of the better literature on both sides. A follow up piece would be quite different. Just talk to folks who have had a vaccination for thier kids and ended up with a totally disabled child.

Posted by: Keating Willcox at May 31, 2012 03:42 AM (YZxuS)

596 “A German study released in September of 2011 showed that vaccinated children have at least two to five times more diseases and disorders than unvaccinated children,”

http://www.wnd.com/2006/03/35079/


Posted by: Keating Willcox at May 31, 2012 05:42 AM (YZxuS)

597 Keating you really do not know what you are talking about. Rat studies? What rat studies show is when rats are injected with vaccines for specific virus the rats don't get that disease. You mean those rat studies. Yes Evil pharmaceuticals companies who are all about killing us. Right.

We diagnose these disorders now because we can diagnose these disorders now. However that said, you not what has changed ... Women having children later in life. For some reason that is never discussed as a potential cause.

First worlder anti-vaccine crowd are the lowest of low. I suggest you head on over to India to find out about polio. Please bring your unvaccinated children with you.

Anti-vaccination crowd  always show up whenever and where ever vaccines are mentioned. They are like Paulbots. I suspect there is some over-lap.

Posted by: long island at May 31, 2012 06:23 AM (kzp9t)

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