April 29, 2014

Overnight Open Thread (4-29-2014)
— Maetenloch

Havel on Legality and Freedom

Amid the kerfuffles over Donald Sterling's ban from the NBA for life and Mozilla's firing of Brenden Eich some commenters have pointed out that it was perfectly legal for the organizations to fire/ban them so why the big whoop. Which is true - it was legal. But misses the point on why their summary expulsion and mob-driven pariah status over relatively trivial actions disturbs many of us here even if we have no love for the targets personally.

Because something being legal really tells us nothing about whether it is moral, good for society, or even just: It's just not forbidden by law. In fact many of the recent scandals noted here - IRS targeting of conservative groups, the Wisconsin John Doe witch hunts, A&E's banning of Phil Robertson, and the selective enforcement (Dinesh D'Souza) and non-enforcement (David Gregory) of laws among others - are probably all legal in the sense that that the acts per se don't violate any laws.

And yet the sum total effect of all these legal acts is to constrain the practical freedom of speech and thought for everyone not on the left and push us towards a more totalitarian society where there is no space for non-approved political beliefs or personal non-politicized speech. But it's all legal-like and each action has all the proper justifying forms and clauses.

Vaclav Havel in his 1978 essay, The Power of the Powerless, (which I just happened to be re-reading last week - okay okay re-skimming) has an excellent section where he points out how a country can a have complete system of laws and courts in which all the procedural niceties are followed and yet still be an oppressive un-free totalitarian system. Laws and a legal system by themselves aren't a very good measure of whether a society is free or not.

If an outside observer who knew nothing at all about life in Czechoslovakia were to study only its laws, he would be utterly incapable of understanding what we were complaining about. The hidden political manipulation of the courts and of public prosecutors, the limitations placed on lawyers' ability to defend their clients, the closed nature, de facto, of trials, the arbitrary actions of the security forces, their position of authority over the judiciary, the absurdly broad application of several deliberately vague sections of that code, and of course the state's utter disregard for the positive sections of that code (the rights of citizens): all of this would remain hidden from our outside observer. The only thing he would take away would be the impression that our legal code is not much worse than the legal code of other civilized countries, and not much different either, except perhaps for certain curiosities, such as the entrenchment in the constitution of a single political party's eternal rule and the state's love for a neighboring superpower.

But that is not all: if our observer had the opportunity to study the formal side of the policing and judicial procedures and practices, how they look "on paper," he would discover that for the most part the common rules of criminal procedure are observed: charges are laid within the prescribed period following arrest, and it is the same with detention orders. Indictments are properly delivered, the accused has a lawyer, and so on. In other words, everyone has an excuse: they have all observed the law. In reality, however, they have cruelly and pointlessly ruined a young person's life, perhaps for no other reason than because he made samizdat copies of a novel written by a banned writer, or because the police deliberately falsified their testimony (as everyone knows, from the judge on down to the defendant). Yet all of this somehow remains in the background. The falsified testimony is not necessarily obvious from the trial documents and the section of the Criminal Code dealing with incitement does not formally exclude the application of that charge to the copying of a banned novel. In other words, the legal code-at least in several areas-is no more than a facade, an aspect of the world of appearances. Then why is it there at all? For exactly the same reason as ideology is there: it provides a bridge of excuses between the system and individuals, making it easier for them to enter the power structure and serve the arbitrary demands of power. The excuse lets individuals fool themselves into thinking they are merely upholding the law and protecting society from criminals.

And the limits of law for creating a free and happy society:

The point is this: even in the most ideal of cases, the law is only one of several imperfect and more or less external ways of defending what is better in life against what is worse. By itself, the law can never create anything better. Its purpose is to render a service and its meaning does not lie in the law itself. Establishing respect for the law does not automatically ensure a better life for that, after all, is a job for people and not for laws and institutions. It is possible to imagine a society with good laws that are fully respected but in which it is impossible to live. Conversely, one can imagine life being quite bearable even where the laws are imperfect and imperfectly applied. The most important thing is always the quality of that life and whether or not the laws enhance life or repress it, not merely whether they are upheld or not. (Often strict observance of the law could have a disastrous impact on human dignity.) The key to a humane, dignified, rich, and happy life does not lie either in the constitution or in the Criminal Code. These merely establish what may or may not be done and, thus, they can make life easier or more difficult. They limit or permit, they punish, tolerate, or defend, but they can never give life substance or meaning. The struggle for what is called "legality" must constantly keep this legality in perspective against the background of life as it really is. Without keeping one's eyes open to the real dimensions of life's beauty and misery, and without a moral relationship to life, this struggle will sooner or later come to grief on the rocks of some self-justifying system of scholastics. Without really wanting to, one would thus become more and more like the observer who comes to conclusions about our system only on the basis of trial documents and is satisfied if all the appropriate regulations have been observed.

Don't forget that the Soviet Union had a beautiful constitution full of rights as well as a full legal and court system with all sorts of protections and limits written into it. And yet in practice the USSR was nightmare totalitarian state that brutalized and murdered people. And had all the proper legal paperwork filled out to do so.

"Who runs the world? The liberal elite"

The popular rhetoric of income inequality, the attacks on Charles and David Koch, the assertion that the system is rigged against the common man, the accusations that a vast right-wing conspiracy has despoiled the American landscape and society and polity - these are the means by which the ruling class masks its true position and justifies its continued agglomeration of power and of wealth.

...Seven of the ten richest counties in the country voted for Barack Obama in 2012, many of them by huge margins. Six of the ten are in the Washington, D.C., metro area, which has benefited from government employment and payment regulations, from government contracting, and from consulting, lobbying, and lawyering for clients petitioning the government. The median income of Falls Church City, Va., is $121,250 dollars. In 2012, Falls Church City voted for Obama 70 percent to 30 percent.

Democrats represent eight of the ten richest congressional districts in the country. Democrat Carolyn Maloney represents the district with the highest per capita income of $75,479. Outgoing congressman Henry Waxman represents the district with the second-highest per capita income of $61,273. The only two Republicans on the list are Representative Leonard Lance, whose New Jersey district ranks seventh, and outgoing Representative Frank Wolf, whose Virginia district ranks tenth. The average per capita income of Democratic House districts is $1,000 more than Republican ones.

And yet this is the standard media image of a Republican:

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'Verbatim: What Is a Photocopier?'

While this is acted out, all the dialog came from the actual deposition of a Cuyahoga County Recorder's Office IT administrator in a 2010 lawsuit over their new policy of no longer providing digital copies of documents. (Thanks to Slu)

Calculating Pi Via the Mossberg 500 Method

Imagine the following scenario. The end of civilization has occurred, zombies have taken over the Earth and all access to modern technology has ended. The few survivors suddenly need to know the value of pi and, being a mathematician, they turn to you. What do you do? According to a couple of Canadian mathematicians, the answer is to repeatedly fire a Mossberg 500 pump action shotgun at a square aluminum target about 20 meters away. Then imagine that the square is inscribed with an arc drawn between opposite corners that maps out a quarter circle. If the sides of the square are equal to 1, then the area of the quarter circle is pi/4. Next, count the number of pellet holes that fall inside the area of the quarter circle as well as the total number of holes. The ratio between these is an estimate of the ratio between the area of the quarter circle and the area of a square, or in other words pi/4. So multiplying this number by 4 will give you an estimate of pi. That's a process known as a Monte Carlo approximation and it is complicated by factors such as the distribution of the pellets not being random. But the mathematicians show how to handle these too. The result? According to this method, pi is 3.13, which is just 0.33 per cent off the true value. Handy if you find yourself in a post-apocalyptic world.

You can read the original paper here. This may be the first mathematics paper to ever explicitly reference the zombie apocalypse. The math behind this isn't as trivial as I imagined since they had to account for the fact that the distribution of shot itself isn't random which would skew any Monte Carlo results. No word on what (if any) chokes they used.

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Value Of A Modern Day Slave: $12.45

I think I've got that much change floating around in my Jeep somewhere.

Most of the 234 Borno schoolgirls in Boko Haram captivity have been ferried abroad to Chad and Cameroon after they were married off to sect members on N2,000 [about $12.45] bride price each, an elder told Daily Trust yesterday.

And DMartyr makes a good point on Boko Haram's behavior:

Some will call Boko Haram extremists who do not represent Islam. Yet they are behaving as the Quran says they should behave - they are following Muhammad's example. So, what does that make them?

Beer Blimp Terrorizes Eastern Canada Airways

Perhaps you'll remember that the people at Budweiser Canada had a blimp designed to be a giant goal light for the Olympics. They teased it in an ad during the Super Bowl and then it appeared over the skies of Toronto before the Canadian men's team's first game in Sochi.

Well, we have an update. A Budweiser goal light blimp is on the loose. I repeat, the blimp is on the loose. While stationed in New Brunswick at a ball hockey tournament Saturday, the two-story, 70-foot-long blimp broke free of its tether and began to float away.

According to Transport Canada's Civil Aviation Daily Occurrence Reporting System (CADOR), the blimp was last reported floating 1,200 to 1,500 metres up.

Creepy Or Romantic? Man Photoshops Himself Into Girlfriend's Childhood Photos

Well as most guys eventually learn it all depends on just how attractive you are and whether she's into you or not.

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The AoSHQ group. Yeah.

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Posted by: Slapweasel at April 29, 2014 05:25 PM (lq3Ak)

2 California to Ban Anyone Affiliated with the Boy Scouts from Some Elected Offices California is poised to declare that the Boy Scouts practice “invidious discrimination” because they don’t allow gay scoutmasters. The result of this is that is would prohibit any judge in California from being affiliated with the Boy Scouts. Since Superior Court judges are elected by the voters (and Appellate and Supreme courts also subject to the will of the voters), this would bar anyone affiliated with the Boy Scouts from these elected offices. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=5636

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 29, 2014 05:26 PM (K1sEu)

3 Hey y'all.

And just for the record, Ft Polk sucks.

Posted by: Bomber at April 29, 2014 05:26 PM (NnTqs)

4 Wow I just saw a Glock commercial on television. Haven't seen that before.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 29, 2014 05:27 PM (oFCZn)

5 didn't you recently tell everyone that Cliven Bundy was No Good ( because of his ante bellum views ) ????

Posted by: Milly ( Millicent ) Twattenburger, State Dept Spokesperson at April 29, 2014 05:28 PM (JyjXt)

6 1984

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 29, 2014 05:28 PM (DmNpO)

7 Yo, Slap!!!  Proud of you, my brutha! 

Posted by: Peaches at April 29, 2014 05:29 PM (8lmkt)

8 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a malignant traitor.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at home at April 29, 2014 05:30 PM (9Xovj)

9 There's a dystopia missing…. http://tinyurl.com/md9mr5w

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 29, 2014 05:30 PM (GEICT)

10 I'm still pissed about how Barky dissed Havel after his passing.

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 05:30 PM (GW/jL)

11 I wanted to be first, I was on other thread saying I just put 24 on demand. Yes, I'm one of the few that never watched it.

Posted by: Carol at April 29, 2014 05:30 PM (gjOCp)

12 Hey.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at April 29, 2014 05:31 PM (4Chvm)

13 Oh, and, Slap, FD Capt. Dave is doing just fine after his double-bypass yesterday.  No doubt due, at least in part, to your very generous prayers.  Thank you again. 

Posted by: Peaches at April 29, 2014 05:31 PM (8lmkt)

14 Wow, this will be only the third playoff series win for the Wizards/Bullets in 35 years? Damn, that's a worse post-season record than the Chiefs.

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 05:31 PM (GW/jL)

15 Sterling is a pig, and I shed no tears for him. That being said, the PC lynch mobs Must. End. Now.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 29, 2014 05:31 PM (R+XDI)

16 Posted by: Peaches at April 29, 2014 10:31 PM (8lmkt) Good to hear! God Bless!

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 29, 2014 05:31 PM (lq3Ak)

17 Byron Smith found guilty of 2 counts of Murder 1 and sentenced to life without parole. They should have given him a medal; instead he got life. Fuckin' prosecutor.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 29, 2014 05:32 PM (odh95)

18 How To Make Powdered Booze At Home http://tinyurl.com/m8jhyq5

Posted by: The Boozin' Hat at April 29, 2014 05:32 PM (K1sEu)

19 Okay, I'm not actually around for long, but I wanted to share this update. For those who don't know, the son of a couple who goes to church with me was seriously wounded in a fire-fight in Afghanistan yesterday (actually, probably day before yesterday at this point). I got this from our prayer-group email tonight: Thanks to everyone who has asked and sent prayers on his behalf, For those who wanted to know what his army job is, Mitch is a machine-gunner with 10th Mountain Infantry Division, He was seriously wounded yesterday while on patrol in Afghanistan - shot through both legs. He had emergency surgery to repair his right femur and underwent a 2nd surgery last night to remove a bullet that was lodged behind his right knee. All things considered, he is doing well and will be transported to Walter Reed soon. Continued prayers for Mitch and the family of his fallen comrade are greatly appreciated. In the Picture (not included because Minx 0.7 Alpha- AG) Mitch is the one kneeling beside the machine gun and his fallen comrade Christian Chandler is the one in front on one knee

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at home at April 29, 2014 05:32 PM (9Xovj)

20 your dystopia menu left out Kafka.

Posted by: mallfly at April 29, 2014 05:32 PM (zjcTL)

21 >>> Yes, I'm one of the few that never watched it.

I never watched it either.  Was in Guam at the time, and had unreliable access to Fox, so never got into it.  Also, that's why I missed Firefly when it was live.  Made up for that on a later deployment, but still haven't gotten around to 24.

Posted by: Bomber at April 29, 2014 05:32 PM (NnTqs)

22 I hope the NBA destroys itself. That is not basketball.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 29, 2014 05:32 PM (Q8vlx)

23 Idiocracy cross-bred with 1984.

In Metropolis you could do what ever you wanted if you were rich.  Poor, down into the bowels of the Earth for you.  Nyet.

Mad Max, well still got oil though far too many of the FSA prefer not to have cars.  So nicht.

28 Days Later only if Idiocracy runs out of money and they have to get off the couch.  So maybe.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 05:32 PM (W6ugU)

24 Outgoing congressman Henry Waxman represents the district with the second-highest per capita income of $61,273. --Damn, that's a lot of cheese.

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 05:32 PM (GW/jL)

25 There is no need for a mob! I will simply weigh Sterling against this duck…

Posted by: Sir Bedevere at April 29, 2014 05:33 PM (K1sEu)

26 Carol I never watched 24 either.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 29, 2014 05:33 PM (Q8vlx)

27 g'evenin', 'rons just a "drive-by" tonight...I'm at "maximum Bed-time" tomorrow night, mi amigoes

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 29, 2014 05:33 PM (KCxzN)

28 Bomber, my mother told my dad she would divorce him if he ever got assigned to Fort Polk.

Posted by: whatmeworry? at April 29, 2014 05:33 PM (dZGNV)

29 "Al Gore doesn't pee because it makes the planet hotter" at 8:05
http://tinyurl.com/mzhlqh9

and the rest of it is just as disturbing.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 29, 2014 05:33 PM (L02KD)

30 May I vote for "all of the above" for our future dystopia?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 29, 2014 05:33 PM (+0txR)

31 Prayers up, Allen.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 29, 2014 05:34 PM (lq3Ak)

32 I'll take a little from 1984, a little from Brave New World, and a little from Idiocracy.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2014 05:34 PM (mx5oN)

33 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at home at April 29, 2014 10:32 PM (9Xovj)

This made me cry.  Prayers up for Mitch and Christian.  God bless the families.

Posted by: Peaches at April 29, 2014 05:34 PM (8lmkt)

34 Maet well said. It startles me how easily people advocate for taking away offensive peoples property, speech or livelihoods.

Posted by: Thunderb at April 29, 2014 05:34 PM (zOTsN)

35 Don't forget that the Soviet Union had a beautiful constitution as well as a full legal and court system with all sorts of protections and limits written into it. And yet in practice the USSR was nightmare totalitarian state that brutalized and murdered people. ___ Hey, I promised you guys change didn't I. But don't worry, the USSA will be totally different, because I'll be in charge.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 29, 2014 05:34 PM (M3hAT)

36 BTW, whoever mentioned that "Tyranny & Mutation" is a great album is spot on.  It's probably my favorite.  Most of BOC's first album comes from their Soft White Underbelly days, so T&M is their first true album and it's an entire disc of sonic joy.  Kind of an odd, razor-sharp sound, but brilliant really.

Posted by: SFGoth at April 29, 2014 05:35 PM (VFAX/)

37 Whatever dystopia we have will make any of those movies seem like utopia…

Posted by: The Dystopian Hat at April 29, 2014 05:35 PM (K1sEu)

38 Prayers up for Mitch and Christian. God bless the families. Posted by: Peaches at April 29, 2014 10:34 PM (8lmkt) Ditto.

Posted by: Vendette at April 29, 2014 05:35 PM (S/Z9J)

39 Outgoing congressman Henry Waxman represents the district with the second-highest per capita income of $61,273.


--Damn, that's a lot of cheese.

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 10:32 PM (GW/jL)


I live in his district.  I make right around that amount.  It buys me a one-bedroom shithole with no security and carport parking.  $1400 a month, goes up every year.  The nice one-bedrooms are $2000 a month and up.  Just sayin'

Posted by: Peaches at April 29, 2014 05:36 PM (8lmkt)

40 The future does not have zombies and society has not turned primitive.

So... everything BUT Mad Max and 28 Days.

/Hope you're all preparing for your trip to the euthanasia chamber when you get sick, a la Soylent Green, but maybe it will come sooner, a la Logan's Run, we already have our minutes of hate online and on tv- 1984 and everyone is medicated, so Brave New World is here. I should not even have to comment on Idiocracy, that's proven everyday. As for Metropolis... honestly, I can't remember much of it, we've gone to the moon so it's already true?

Posted by: shibumi who is exceptionally cynical today at April 29, 2014 05:37 PM (25HWz)

41 Soylent Green as long as I could be a furniture upholsterer if you know what I mean and I think that you do.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at April 29, 2014 05:37 PM (D+5pt)

42 5 didn't you recently tell everyone that Cliven Bundy was No Good ( because of his ante bellum views ) ????

Posted by: Milly ( Millicent ) Twattenburger, State Dept Spokesperson at April 29, 2014 10:28 PM (JyjXt)


Nope.

Posted by: Mtenloch 'Psycho' Soyer at April 29, 2014 05:37 PM (pAlYe)

43 Men get arrested. Dogs get put down.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 29, 2014 05:38 PM (RTQgm)

44 I missed the geek thread, so the short at the end of captain America, is that supposed to be quicksilver and the scarlet witch or some evil guys?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlinSeattle at April 29, 2014 05:38 PM (+0txR)

45 Hey TPH.  Valkyria Chronicles meets Gold Digger.

http://fredgdperry.deviantart.com/art/GD-Halloween-preview-205725614

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 05:38 PM (W6ugU)

46 Hola, amigoz en loz tuboz!

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 05:38 PM (T1005)

47 29 "Al Gore doesn't pee because it makes the planet hotter" at 8:05 http://tinyurl.com/mzhlqh9 and the rest of it is just as disturbing. Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 29, 2014 10:33 PM (L02KD) What the hell were you searching for that led you to that?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2014 05:38 PM (mx5oN)

48 None of those dystopias were meant to be actualized or realized. Yet here we are, choosing amongst them. We are so terribly screwed...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 05:39 PM (0HooB)

49 Okay, Ladies and Gents. I'm just too tired tonight. I'm going to fade off watching Fargo. ...darn good, by the way. Good Night! *static*

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 29, 2014 05:39 PM (lq3Ak)

50 Thanks, y'all. I still have no word (and I don't know of how I'd get it) about the rest of Mitch's unit. They were on patrol when they got in the fire fight, so I don't know if this was specifically an ambush or if they just went looking for trouble (that's what patrol is, after all) and happened to find it. At this point he's stable enough that they're talking Walter Reed instead of Germany, so I'm guessing that either he's already in Germany, or they've decided he's in good enough condition that he can make it all the way back to the States without the other stop. So that's good. Several of the Horde were praying, I know, so I wanted to give the update.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at home at April 29, 2014 05:39 PM (9Xovj)

51 'night, Slap!  xoxo

Posted by: Peaches at April 29, 2014 05:39 PM (8lmkt)

52 We're a hybrid of Brave New World, Atlas Shrugged (should be up there), and Idiocracy.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 29, 2014 05:39 PM (15w2J)

53 And it's "antebellum". One word.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 29, 2014 05:39 PM (GEICT)

54 Ann Coulter (who looks a little more attractive than I recall) on Hannity just described Sterling as "this piece of crap covered with human skin". Thought that was funny.

Posted by: mallfly at April 29, 2014 05:39 PM (zjcTL)

55 Creepy Or Romantic? Man Photoshops Himself Into Girlfriend's Childhood Photos Well as all guys eventually learn it all depends on just how attractive you are and whether she's into you or not. --Heh, Michael Scott did that with a girlfriend, replacing her ex-husband with himself in a family skiing photo. She became his ex-girlfriend that day.

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 05:40 PM (GW/jL)

56 Posted by: Peaches at April 29, 2014 10:36 PM (8lmkt)



Peaches, you should just go ahead and move here to the Peach State.  That's about what I make, but I'm in a 3/1 house on an acre for $750/mo.  Plus I can walk out on my back deck and shoot my guns and nobody cares.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 29, 2014 05:40 PM (KNXgp)

57 I live in his district. I make right around that amount. It buys me a one-bedroom shithole with no security and carport parking. $1400 a month, goes up every year. The nice one-bedrooms are $2000 a month and up. Just sayin' Posted by: Peaches at April 29, 2014 10:36 PM (8lmkt) Move. To. Texas.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at home at April 29, 2014 05:40 PM (9Xovj)

58 Really glad to hear it AG.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 29, 2014 05:40 PM (GEICT)

59 We're past 1984. We're in Idiocracy. We're probably headed to Logan's Run where escapees evolve within Mad Max.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 29, 2014 05:40 PM (1CroS)

60 All I know is that in Peruvia, weasels are called Boehners.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 29, 2014 05:40 PM (o3MSL)

61 Hi Chavez the Hugo, I'm trying to avoid computers,etc because they make my pain from injection worse. I have to go to work tomorrow. So far, I have paused 24 to post. I know it will be back again in May. I might start watching new show.

Posted by: Carol at April 29, 2014 05:41 PM (gjOCp)

62 Alright, Horde. Stuff to do (including laundry, if I don't want to go to work naked tomorrow). Catch y'all tomorrow.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at home at April 29, 2014 05:41 PM (9Xovj)

63 I hate Sterling because all whites are raaaaacist... again.

Posted by: Guido at April 29, 2014 05:41 PM (GYg/s)

64 Damn Peaches, my son paid that in St Paul, MN. He had at least had security and controlled ramp parking.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 29, 2014 05:41 PM (Q8vlx)

65 Havel, Solzhenitsyn, Wallenska, Sakharov - these are not heroes to the left they are embarrassing reminders of the power of faith, individual courage and dignity in the face of the failed idolatry to the collective.

Posted by: whatmeworry? at April 29, 2014 05:41 PM (dZGNV)

66 I'll go with a combo of Idiocracy and Mad Max. Though Soylent apparently has a chance, as evidenced by this HA Headline link of an Atlantic article:
 
http://tinyurl.com/odndjcq
 
I don't link to Atlantic, nor do I link to the NYT. So a humble request to Maet; please warn when you are linking to the NYT as I hate giving them ANY CLICKS.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2014 05:41 PM (wNF3N)

67 Prayers up for Mitch and Christian. God bless the families.

Posted by: Peaches at April 29, 2014 10:34 PM (8lmkt)

Yep.

One good thing about more than a decade at war, battlefield medicine has made tremendous leaps (and is even helping out in the States).  Getting shot in the leg, even both legs, is not that big a deal, as long as you make it to the medevac.

Not trying to take away anything from those two heroes.  God bless the families, indeed.

Posted by: Bomber at April 29, 2014 05:42 PM (NnTqs)

68 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at home at April 29, 2014 10:32 PM (9Xovj)



Prayers for both.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 29, 2014 05:42 PM (KNXgp)

69 My darlings . . . you are so sweet, but I am 62 years old and I am not going to get another job that pays me anything if I relocate.  I'm just playing out the string until I can pull the trigger and bust out to someplace sane.  I'm shit out of options that way. 

Posted by: Peaches at April 29, 2014 05:42 PM (8lmkt)

70 Peaches, you should just go ahead and move here to the Peach State. Posted by: Country Singer at April 29, 2014 10:40 PM (KNXgp) Move. To. Texas. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at home at April 29, 2014 10:40 PM (9Xovj) Time for a bidding war for Peaches to grace your state with her presence.

Posted by: Vendette at April 29, 2014 05:42 PM (S/Z9J)

71 The first season of 24 was great. After that, utter sh*t. How are you feeling, Carol?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at April 29, 2014 05:42 PM (QCo5R)

72 The Hostages introduced me to that guy who is now my favorite online chef.  Every once in a while I go back for a laugh.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 29, 2014 05:42 PM (L02KD)

73 Move. To. Texas. Or. Florida.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 05:42 PM (0HooB)

74 Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2014 10:41 PM (wNF3N)

Set up your browser so it shows the URL of the link you are hovering over.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 29, 2014 05:42 PM (QFxY5)

75

I did not know that Capt. Dave had undergone a bypass-bypass.

 

 

My prayers for his rapid and full recovery.  Morons should only pass from alcohol induces excesses and attendant reckless behavior.  Never from illness.

 

 

 

Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 29, 2014 05:43 PM (vvk2F)

76 Congrats to the Washington Wizards! There going to be a tough out.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 29, 2014 05:43 PM (15w2J)

77 Carol I truly wish and pray that you can find someone or something to ease your pain.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 29, 2014 05:43 PM (Q8vlx)

78 Hey TPH. Valkyria Chronicles meets Gold Digger. http://fredgdperry.deviantart.com/art/GD-Halloween-preview-205725614 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 10:38 PM (W6ugU) Better than 99% of the combos out there… though that ain't saying much…

Posted by: 政治的な帽子 at April 29, 2014 05:43 PM (K1sEu)

79 11 I wanted to be first, I was on other thread saying I just put 24 on demand. Yes, I'm one of the few that never watched it. Posted by: Carol at April 29, 2014 10:30 PM (gjOCp) --Season 1 is really not the best, but for the novelty of the show concept you'll probably make it through silly stuff like Jack's wife's amnesia. You'll probably find most of it after Day 5 a waste of time (except maybe the Redemption movie).

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 05:43 PM (GW/jL)

80 Peaches, you should just go ahead and move here to the Peach State. That's about what I make, but I'm in a 3/1 house on an acre for $750/mo. Plus I can walk out on my back deck and shoot my guns and nobody cares. Posted by: Country Singer at April 29, 2014 10:40 PM (KNXgp) ****** I'll second that. Live just outside of Blue Ridge and in extreme Suburban ATL. Great place, low cost, relatively free.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 29, 2014 05:43 PM (ojnk6)

81 So a humble request to Maet; please warn when you are linking to the NYT as I hate giving them ANY CLICKS. Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2014 10:41 PM (wNF3N) When I hover over the hyperlink I can see the link at the bottom of my browser, so I knew it was going to the NYT.

Posted by: Vendette at April 29, 2014 05:44 PM (S/Z9J)

82 but I am 6229 years old and smokin' hot

Posted by: Peaches at April 29, 2014 10:42 PM (8lmkt)

Learn to type.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 29, 2014 05:44 PM (QFxY5)

83 Posted by: Jim at April 29, 2014 10:43 PM (vvk2F)

Oh, Jim, no, FD Capt. Dave is not a moron!  He's my bff's bro-in-law in Indy.  Helluva guy, but  not one of the horde.

Posted by: Peaches at April 29, 2014 05:44 PM (8lmkt)

84 I'm hoping for a Dystopia like Bladerunner. Flying cars and sexbots!! I liked Deckers apartment too.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 29, 2014 05:45 PM (15w2J)

85 I bid $25 for Peaches to move to Texas!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 29, 2014 05:45 PM (GEICT)

86 Getting shot anyplace is never a good thing, stuff can get busted that we don't know how to fix yet, hope he makes a full recovery.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 29, 2014 05:45 PM (L02KD)

87 The Clippers game is about to start. Oh joy...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 05:46 PM (0HooB)

88 Did "fluffy" ever get her cherry popped?

Posted by: whatmeworry? at April 29, 2014 05:46 PM (dZGNV)

89 I bid $25 for Peaches to move to Texas!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 29, 2014 10:45 PM (GEICT)



HB60!  Guns everywhere in Georgia!

Posted by: Country Singer at April 29, 2014 05:47 PM (KNXgp)

90 No Zardoz or Outland?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 29, 2014 05:47 PM (z/dJ6)

91 Disclaimer: Not a doctor, just someone who has benefited from this. Carol, have you looked into Active Release Therapy (ART)?

Posted by: Vendette at April 29, 2014 05:47 PM (S/Z9J)

92 Watching Fargo too. Not as good as the movie. Only the female deputy has the accent right. The rest are too exaggerated. Billy bob has not been asked one time " you're not from here are you?", which only make sense if this is some fight club persona shit. And no way anybody in ND or MN would have a huge dog door. They would freeze in the house and all kinda of critters would get in. This is an LA guys idea of the place, not someone who lived there, and it shows.

Posted by: Thunderb at April 29, 2014 05:47 PM (zOTsN)

93 Yankee fans don't grasp irony, chant "You sold out" to Robinson Cano on his first appearance at Yankee Stadium since signing with Seattle http://tinyurl.com/l52n4rg

Posted by: kbdabear at April 29, 2014 05:47 PM (aTXUx)

94 The Mega Independent, I was feeling no pain in shoulder until I started holding iPad in left arm & now shoulder is killing me. I have a stand but it falls off arm of Chiat & it's only 4 months old & will meed to have screen on iPad replaced. I'm putting all away & going to watch 24 until I fall asleep. Thank you for asking.

Posted by: Carol at April 29, 2014 05:47 PM (gjOCp)

95 The drummer for the rock band Scorpions has been sentenced to one month in jail after being convicted of offensive behavior in Dubai. The government-backed National newspaper reported Tuesday that James Kottak was convicted of insulting Islam, raising his middle finger and being under the influence of alcohol while in transit at Dubai airport. http://tinyurl.com/m6b4vf9

Posted by: The Political Sting at April 29, 2014 05:48 PM (K1sEu)

96 BTW, isn't Dystopia a district in San Francisco? You know... the one that smells like urine.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 29, 2014 05:49 PM (1CroS)

97

Peaches,

 

 

Good that it's not one of us, but it sounds like he NEEDS to BE one of us!

 

 

A Fire Dept. Captain is a hoss, in my book.  Prayers abound. 

 

 

Meanwhile, my esteemed Peachiness......  you sit down by his bedside, and explain the Moronopshere, and how he's already one of us, whether he knows it or not.

 

 

 

Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 29, 2014 05:49 PM (vvk2F)

98 Prayers for the families. AllenG, which brigade of 10th Mountain was he part of?

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 29, 2014 05:49 PM (lr3d7)

99 I bid $25 for Peaches to move to Texas!

The market price was $12.45 before you messed everything up.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 29, 2014 05:50 PM (L02KD)

100 HB60! Guns everywhere in Georgia! We got thunderstorms every afternoon in the summer, mosquitos that can take a Chihuahua, hurricanes, um, and lots of humidity, and, uh, I should probably stop right here. I hear Texas is nice.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 05:50 PM (0HooB)

101 My vote is for Mad Max

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 29, 2014 05:50 PM (jucos)

102 Did "fluffy" ever get her cherry popped?

Posted by: whatmeworry? at April 29, 2014 10:46 PM (dZGNV)


Haha, yes!  First time I blew 100 rounds down her little squeakhole.  She's a BEAST!!  Second time, everybody wanted a piece of her and I let them at 'er.  Great, great little gun.  A little hard to handle, but the great ones always are, no?

Posted by: Peaches at April 29, 2014 05:50 PM (8lmkt)

103 Bomber, You have my sympathies. Fort Polk was my last duty station in the Army for a reason.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 29, 2014 05:50 PM (lr3d7)

104 I bid for Peaches to come to Ohio. I have empty bedrooms and will have Son of Crank for her to dote on. Even if she doesn't pay rent it's a better deal than I get from my b-I-l.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at April 29, 2014 05:50 PM (R+XDI)

105 "...smells like urine."

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 29, 2014 10:49 PM (1CroS)

Most of SF smells like urine...or worse.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 29, 2014 05:50 PM (QFxY5)

106

Well, wait.

 

 

I said to "explain the Moronosphere".   Then, I realized.

 

 

We're unexplainable.

 

 

 

Jim
Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 29, 2014 05:50 PM (vvk2F)

107 95 >> The government-backed National newspaper reported Tuesday that James Kottak was convicted of insulting Islam, raising his middle finger and being under the influence of alcohol
 
Or as known at the GnuBreed household, Tuesday.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2014 05:51 PM (wNF3N)

108 "The future will not belong to those who offend the Prophet."

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 29, 2014 05:51 PM (RTQgm)

109 And starring Al Franken as Ronald McDonald.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2014 05:52 PM (XeVA7)

110 TNT: Sterling Sterling Sterling. Announcers tripping over there dicks trying to out do each other in oozing self righteousness.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 29, 2014 05:52 PM (15w2J)

111 One other future scenario for America; Woody Allen's "Sleeper"

Posted by: kbdabear at April 29, 2014 05:53 PM (aTXUx)

112 AllenG thanks for the update. I'll keep praying

Posted by: Thunderb at April 29, 2014 05:53 PM (zOTsN)

113 All right, time to break for a movie. The friends I'm dog-sitting for checked out the Mandela movie starring Stringer Bell so I'll give it a look (it's free, eh?). If I'm back here tonight, that means it blew and I did not make it through it.

Posted by: logprof at April 29, 2014 05:53 PM (GW/jL)

114 Heh, I just watched Soylent Green tonight.  Pretty good film, actually.

Posted by: Null at April 29, 2014 05:53 PM (xjpRj)

115 TNT: Sterling Sterling Sterling. Announcers tripping over there dicks trying to out do each other in oozing self righteousness. Posted by: Puddleglum at April 29, 2014 10:52 PM (15w2J) ******** If they listened to the entire recording, and had a fcuking clue about context, they wouldn't be. But, that is admittedly asking a bit much in these bizarro times.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 29, 2014 05:54 PM (ojnk6)

116 Well if you offend the profit we will take your property and livelihood and free speech.

Posted by: Thunderb at April 29, 2014 05:54 PM (zOTsN)

117 Their are Christian groups that will buy back these SLAVES, then people complain that they are driving up the price.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 29, 2014 05:54 PM (b6koZ)

118 >>> I am at the point were I fucking hate gays.

No, get it right.  You're afraid of them.  Homophobe.

Posted by: Bomber at April 29, 2014 05:54 PM (NnTqs)

119 Profit. Heh

Posted by: Thunderb at April 29, 2014 05:55 PM (zOTsN)

120 Sleepers is rayciiisssttt!!!   Dear Leader is white!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 05:55 PM (W6ugU)

121 The market price was $12.45 before you messed everything up. Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 29, 2014 10:50 PM (L02KD) I also don't live in Texas.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 29, 2014 05:56 PM (GEICT)

122 Fuck Sterling. If the players were so outraged, why didn't they quit? Oh yeah, forgot: they make a shitload of money. And nobody is talking about the fucked up VA system that lets our veterans die

Posted by: Ma Bell at April 29, 2014 05:56 PM (RLdcX)

123 Aldous Huxley would be the one.

Posted by: testing at April 29, 2014 05:56 PM (9R4HJ)

124 96 BTW, isn't Dystopia a district in San Francisco? You know... the one that smells like urine. Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 29, 2014 10:49 PM (1CroS) You have to be more specific because they all do, .

Posted by: Thrawn at April 29, 2014 05:56 PM (WlWt+)

125 19>> Prayers and bets wishes for the Mitch and his fellow soldiers, AllenG. Glad to hear he's doing OK and headed stateside. God bless those guys and everyone else in that shit hole.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 29, 2014 05:56 PM (60Vyp)

126 Imagine the following scenario. The end of civilization has occurred, zombies have taken over the Earth and all access to modern technology has ended. The few survivors suddenly need to know the value of pi>>

If you have hooked up with a group where no one can remember Pi from memory (or didn't pass it on to future generations). Your group is not smart enough to come up with this solution.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 05:56 PM (5bbdJ)

127 Gonna hafta skim the Cliff Notes version of "Brave New World". But I think we're gonna end up in a situation where the local strong man runs the neighborhood. It will be more or less a feudal society, and you will want to be that local strong man rather than one of his soldiers in his army.

Posted by: Pointless in Paduka at April 29, 2014 05:57 PM (jd9lN)

128 I want you to stop bringing skin-jobs to the games.

Posted by: blade runner donald sterling at April 29, 2014 05:57 PM (D+5pt)

129 9 There's a dystopia missing….

http://tinyurl.com/md9mr5w


And this one: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072730/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Posted by: Anachronda at April 29, 2014 05:57 PM (o78gS)

130 127 Oh and you are all going to die.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 05:57 PM (5bbdJ)

131 Holy shit. That's a lot of ONT.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2014 05:58 PM (lUwoD)

132 128 Gonna hafta skim the Cliff Notes version of "Brave New World". But I think we're gonna end up in a situation where the local strong man runs the neighborhood. It will be more or less a feudal society, and you will want to be that local strong man rather than one of his soldiers in his army. Posted by: Pointless in Paduka at April 29, 2014 10:57 PM (jd9lN) So The Postman then? Damn.

Posted by: Thrawn at April 29, 2014 05:58 PM (WlWt+)

133 Roger Simon of PJ Media is calling for the impeachment of TFG based on the new emails revealed today about Benghazi:
 
http://tinyurl.com/pl6yycx
 
And as a total non sequitur, I'm watching Odd Thomas on Netflix; I ve recommended this movie before and I'm giving it a second go.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2014 05:58 PM (wNF3N)

134 And nobody is talking about the fucked up VA system that lets our veterans die Posted by: Ma Bell at April 29, 2014 10:56 PM (RLdcX) ****** The Lightbringer has promised a full investigation, probably headed by Holder at Justice. Expect results of said investigation to be released publicly in zzzzzzzzzzzz.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 29, 2014 05:59 PM (ojnk6)

135 Speaking of 1984, I'll be filing papers for a name change next week. I think Emmanuel Goldstein is available. I'll probably rename the arena, too. Maybe MiniSport. Or Hypocridome.

Posted by: Donald Sterling at April 29, 2014 05:59 PM (1CroS)

136 If you have hooked up with a group where no one can remember Pi from memory (or didn't pass it on to future generations). Your group is not smart enough to come up with this solution. Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 10:56 PM (5bbdJ) Yeah, but we're simply kickass when it comes to wasting perfectly good ammo...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 29, 2014 05:59 PM (z/dJ6)

137 Do they have a professional basketball league in Chad or Cameroon?

I'm asking for a friend.

Posted by: Donald Sterling at April 29, 2014 05:59 PM (IN7k+)

138 "Heh, I just watched Soylent Green tonight. Pretty good film, actually." The part that still gets me. Having women as "furniture." Just sayin'

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2014 06:00 PM (lUwoD)

139 Vendette, I've tried acupuncture & Chinese herbs, pills (still do) & after 5 1/2 years w/o a neck doctor, neck surgeon sent me for something that made it worse & when I called again he told me to go to spine pain specialist. His injections help, but the area between cervical discs is tiny & he puts a lot of stuff in there. I don't look at needle, I can tell by how long it takes & how it feels. I could ask but don't want to see needle. I should have stayed away from iPad unless I have it on stand. I should feel better tomorrow. Thank you, If it doesn't help I will ask BC1981 to email you for me.

Posted by: Carol at April 29, 2014 06:01 PM (gjOCp)

140 But I think we're gonna end up in a situation where the local strong man runs the neighborhood. It will be more or less a feudal society, and you will want to be that local strong man rather than one of his soldiers in his army. And it's Escape from New York by a nose!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 29, 2014 06:01 PM (z/dJ6)

141 The part that still gets me. Having women as "furniture." Just sayin' "If I had the money, I'd smoke three or four of those a day."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 06:02 PM (0HooB)

142 Thrawn: "You have to be more specific because they all do..." Yeah. It was a tongue-in-cheek joke. Oops, I did it again.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 29, 2014 06:02 PM (1CroS)

143 Peaches should move to DC.  All the money is coming here BABY!!!! 

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 29, 2014 06:02 PM (jucos)

144 Bomber @ 3-
If you think Ft. Polk sucks, don't get caught in Pitkin after dark.

Posted by: Erowmero at April 29, 2014 06:03 PM (go5uR)

145 Re Sterling:  Has the NAACP or the DNC given back his recent donations? 

Posted by: palerider at April 29, 2014 06:03 PM (dkExz)

146 129 I want you to stop bringing skin-jobs to the games.

Posted by: blade runner donald sterling at April 29, 2014 10:57 PM (D+5pt)


Okay possible thread-winner here.

Posted by: Mtenloch at April 29, 2014 06:03 PM (pAlYe)

147 But I think we're gonna end up in a situation where the local strong man runs the neighborhood. It will be more or less a feudal society, and you will want to be that local strong man rather than one of his soldiers in his army.

Posted by: Pointless in Paduka at April 29, 2014 10:57 PM (jd9lN)



Stirling's Dies The Fire series (actually, I think the series is Emberverse).  Interesting premise for dystopian world, but it devolves into feudalism.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 29, 2014 06:03 PM (KNXgp)

148 The old man in the cave.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0734669/?ref_=fn_ep_tt_1

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2014 06:03 PM (XeVA7)

149 130 9
There's a dystopia missing….



http://tinyurl.com/md9mr5w


And this one: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072730/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Posted by: Anachronda at April 29, 2014 10:57 PM (o78gS) Hide posts from (o78gS)


If you do that one, you have to do this one: http://tinyurl.com/m7lul6p

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 06:04 PM (T1005)

150 Le WIZARDZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at April 29, 2014 06:05 PM (jucos)

151 146 Re Sterling: Has the NAACP or the DNC given back his recent donations? Posted by: palerider at April 29, 2014 11:03 PM (dkExz) I thought that his donations to the NAACP were in the form of tickets to "underprivileged" yoots to watch his Clippers play travelball.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars [/i] [/s] [/u] at April 29, 2014 06:05 PM (z/dJ6)

152 ah, crap, I'm missing NCIS.  catch ya on the commercial breaks, fappers!

Posted by: Peaches at April 29, 2014 06:06 PM (8lmkt)

153 Or the movie adaption of H.G. Well's Shape of Things to Come envisions these men of science emerging from their hidden lair and having to battle these small petty feudal areas ruled by a strongman.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 06:06 PM (W6ugU)

154 Comcast sucks! They made me think I could watch 24 w/of paying. I watched first one but now they want $1.99 or $2 .99 for each episode. I will watch Veep, it's slightly amusing & after watching two I usually fall,asleep. Good night, Horde.

Posted by: Carol at April 29, 2014 06:06 PM (gjOCp)

155 I'm out nite all.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at April 29, 2014 06:07 PM (Q8vlx)

156 ...and had all the proper legal paperwork filled out to do so.
-------------------------
I'm failing to see the problem here.

Posted by: Bureaucrat 4 Life at April 29, 2014 06:07 PM (RqvKn)

157 The part that still gets me. Having women as "furniture." Just sayin' Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2014 11:00 PM (lUwoD) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsj_Vso17dM

Posted by: Soylent Co. at April 29, 2014 06:07 PM (K1sEu)

158 154 Or the movie adaption of H.G. Well's Shape of Things to Come envisions these men of science emerging from their hidden lair and having to battle these small petty feudal areas ruled by a strongman.Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 11:06 PM (W6ugU)
Pretty good special effects for a movie from the 1930's

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2014 06:07 PM (XeVA7)

159 "If I had the money, I'd smoke three or four of those a day." Don't know what that is. As a man I find the women as furniture intriguing yet also a terror. Rent the right place, great. Wrong place? Shit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2014 06:08 PM (lUwoD)

160 Now that I think about, maybe The Horde shouldn't read Dies The Fire, it'll just get that whole longbow/crossbow thing going again.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 29, 2014 06:08 PM (KNXgp)

161 I thought that his donations to the NAACP were in the form of tickets to "underprivileged" yoots to watch his Clippers play travelball. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ at April 29, 2014 11:05 PM (z/dJ6) ****** No source, but I thought I read that he gave 5K in check form in 2010, which they will now return. A drop in the bucket, but symbolism is everything these days.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 29, 2014 06:09 PM (ojnk6)

162 What the HELL is going on at Vanderbilt? Referring to records, the attorneys said the victim was contacted by Franklin and (director of player performance Dwight) Galt during a medical examination four days after the rape to explain "that they cared about her because she assisted them with recruiting." Coach Franklin called her in for a private meeting and told her he wanted her to get fifteen pretty girls together and form a team to assist with the recruiting even though he knew it was against the rules. He added that all the other colleges did it. And this after she said she was raped by players

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 29, 2014 06:09 PM (b6koZ)

163 Perhaps you'll remember that the people at Budweiser Canada had a blimp designed to be a giant goal light for the Olympics. They teased it in an ad during the Super Bowl and then it appeared over the skies of Toronto before the Canadian men's team's first game in Sochi. Well, we have an update. A Budweiser goal light blimp is on the loose. I repeat, the blimp is on the loose. While stationed in New Brunswick at a ball hockey tournament Saturday, the two-story, 70-foot-long blimp broke free of its tether and began to float away. According to Transport Canada's Civil Aviation Daily Occurrence Reporting System (CADOR), the blimp was last reported floating 1,200 to 1,500 metres up. Holy shit Julien! We can get some serious coin for that thing. Once we get that, I can get my grade 12.

Posted by: Ricky at April 29, 2014 06:10 PM (HxSXm)

164

 

It's a shit blimp, Randy. A dirigible of shit.

Posted by: mr lahay at April 29, 2014 06:11 PM (Ci6bl)

165 I'd say the video clip of the deposition above pretty clearly demonstrates that Idiocracy is not only our future...but we're living the initial stages right now.

Posted by: S at April 29, 2014 06:11 PM (bOKSd)

166 Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 29, 2014 11:09 PM (b6koZ)


link?

Posted by: Country Singer at April 29, 2014 06:12 PM (KNXgp)

167 some baracky on havel >Having encountered many setbacks, President Havel lived with a spirit of hope, which he defined as “the ability to work for something because it is good, not just because it stands a chance to succeed.”< baracky be a piece of dog food. eat me say baracky!

Posted by: newrouter at April 29, 2014 06:12 PM (hudvF)

168 149: Loved that episode!! James Coburn being all James Coburny. I liked Two; mainly because spending the rest of my days in a post-apocalyptic world with a young slinky hot Elizabeth Montgomery has a certain appeal.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 29, 2014 06:13 PM (15w2J)

169 Strawberries! Strawberries! You dirty rat!

Posted by: zombie edward g. robinson at April 29, 2014 06:14 PM (D+5pt)

170 Since I just watched this vid, I figured I'd drop a link to it here, like the cats bring home their little "gifts": No, really: News You Can Use You've been Using Ketchup Cups Wrong by CrazyRussianHacker http://youtu.be/PgZtZ9qs3yY _____ Which Dystopian Future? Star Trek TOS: Mirror, Mirror _____ "Which of these dystopias is the US most likely headed towards?" The one where participles are left freely dangling and nobody notices or cares! _____ Well, that's it for me. As usual. Hm. I almost miss hanging out here in the pit. At night, I mean. I come back in the morning, and it's, well, you know, that stale-beer-and-cigs smell, and you can see everything in the grim light of day. Good night, Gracies.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click here for your Hillary 2016 poster at April 29, 2014 06:14 PM (U13jb)

171 I thought that his donations to the NAACP were in the form of tickets to "underprivileged" yoots to watch his Clippers play travelball. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars™ at April 29, 2014 11:05 PM (z/dJ6) I'm sure that the NAACP were more than willing to re-sell those puppies or use them to entice donations.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 29, 2014 06:14 PM (HxSXm)

172 Eldest Kidlet is taking Dance I at what is supposed to be one of the best high schools anywhere (rates a 9 on the NCLB scale) and has hit the "Ethnic Dance" portion of the curriculum. Now, she's taking dance for two reasons. 1) She thinks running is evil and almost any other PE option was a big "yes!" and 2) She's done a little ballet and knows some traditional Jewish dances and was looking forward to the Ethnic Dance section. So, today they got their assignment for this section. It's A Creative Writing assignment based on groups creating their own *fictional* country and a fictional folkdance to go with it. There is *no* actual folkdancing being taught! This being the case, I'm encouraging her to base as much of the country as the rest of the group will let her get away with on Peruvia. Folkdance: Hunting of the Hobo Greeting/parting gesture: biting the thumb Capital: Alextopia other suggestions are welcome. I'm particularly upset (beyond the fact that this isn't a *dance* assignment at all) by the requirement to come up with *different* rules more male and female residents and that this country is to have a "Code of Conduct" which is something schools and organizations have not countries.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 29, 2014 06:14 PM (GDulk)

173 169  a young slinky hotElizabeth Montgomery has a certain appeal.
Posted by: Puddleglum at April 29, 2014 11:13 PM (15w2J)

Bewitching indeed!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2014 06:15 PM (XeVA7)

174 Don't know what that is. Heston as the cop, commenting on the price of cigarettes when he first goes to meet the girls in the apartment where the guy is murdered. Everything is outrageously expensive/hard to obtain/nonexistent due to overpopulation. A jar of strawberries is $150. E. G. Robinson's final movie.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 06:15 PM (0HooB)

175 Soylent Green is people! Soylent Green is people!

Posted by: Chuck Heston at April 29, 2014 06:16 PM (lUwoD)

176 It stinks in here.

Posted by: NAACP LIfetime Award Winner Donald Sterling at April 29, 2014 06:16 PM (5ikDv)

177 163 What the HELL is going on at Vanderbilt? Referring to records, the attorneys said the victim was contacted by Franklin and (director of player performance Dwight) Galt during a medical examination four days after the rape to explain "that they cared about her because she assisted them with recruiting." Coach Franklin called her in for a private meeting and told her he wanted her to get fifteen pretty girls together and form a team to assist with the recruiting even though he knew it was against the rules. He added that all the other colleges did it. And this after she said she was raped by players Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 29, 2014 11:09 PM (b6koZ) Looks like State Penn may be hiring another Head football coach. That is just a lil SEC country goodbye gift to him.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 29, 2014 06:16 PM (HxSXm)

178 Here http://tinyurl.com/m4cpbtr

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 29, 2014 06:16 PM (b6koZ)

179 Must not have been rape rape

Posted by: Thunderb at April 29, 2014 06:17 PM (zOTsN)

180 Polliwogette, oh my. 

The teacher will love your kid or hate your kid for being so creative.

Perhaps not 'Hunting the Hobo' they might twig to that really hard.

"Come let us dance the dance of my people!  The Hunting of the Hobgoblin!  We seek to chase the bad luck away with this dance."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 06:19 PM (W6ugU)

181

E. G. Robinson's final movie.


E. G. Robinson's final scene in Soylent Green; Charlton Heston's tears were real. He knew Robinson was dying.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 29, 2014 06:19 PM (15w2J)

182 I'm particularly upset (beyond the fact that this isn't a *dance* assignment at all) by the requirement to come up with *different* rules more male and female residents and that this country is to have a "Code of Conduct" which is something schools and organizations have not countries. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 29, 2014 11:14 PM (GDulk) Don't forget the official handgun of Peruvia, the AK Style AR-15 Assualt 80mm Shotgun Rifle

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 29, 2014 06:19 PM (HxSXm)

183 Which Dystopian Future? Star Trek TOS: Mirror, Mirror
I just killed Ace. Now the blog is mine.
Your agonizer, Mr Dildo.

Posted by: maetenloch with a goatee at April 29, 2014 06:19 PM (D+5pt)

184 Which of these dystopias is the U.S. most likely headed towards? What day is it?

Posted by: rickl at April 29, 2014 06:19 PM (sdi6R)

185 170 Strawberries! Strawberries! You dirty rat!Posted by: zombie edward g. robinson at April 29, 2014 11:14 PM (D+5pt)
Is this the end of Rico?

Posted by: Little Caesar at April 29, 2014 06:19 PM (XeVA7)

186 Which of these dystopias?

Worked with a guy who really liked this one for some reason:
Armageddon Fabulosa
http://tinyurl.com/n2944rt

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 29, 2014 06:19 PM (L02KD)

187 Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 29, 2014 11:16 PM (HxSXm) Wow. Think they were trying to buy her off with status instead of cash? Makes E.K.'s creative writing instead of *actual* dance assignment seem less severe.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 29, 2014 06:21 PM (GDulk)

188 Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at April 29, 2014 11:16 PM (b6koZ)


Thanks.  Vandy's had a lot of issues the past several years.  Like the chancellor's wife (Gordon Gee, before he went to OSU...and now WVU) smoking pot in the official residence.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 29, 2014 06:21 PM (KNXgp)

189 Uh oh Maet, you just might have spawned something new there...  The Dildo Agonizer...  as testified to by Sandra Fluke.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 06:22 PM (W6ugU)

190 169 I liked Two; mainly because spending the rest of my days in a post-apocalyptic world with a young slinky hot Elizabeth Montgomery has a certain appeal. Posted by: Puddleglum at April 29, 2014 11:13 PM (15w2J) With stompy boots, no less.

Posted by: rickl at April 29, 2014 06:22 PM (sdi6R)

191 Don't forget the official handgun of Peruvia, the AK Style AR-15 Assualt 80mm Shotgun Rifle Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 29, 2014 11:19 PM (HxSXm) In compact or with the shoulder thing that goes up? And Polli, that's awesome. Although I believe that the female portion of the Dance of Peruvia is traditionally done topless. So…..

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 29, 2014 06:22 PM (GEICT)

192 After further review "Brave New World" "Community. Identity. Stability."

Posted by: Pointless in Paduka at April 29, 2014 06:22 PM (jd9lN)

193 E. G. Robinson's final scene in Soylent Green; Charlton Heston's tears were real. He knew Robinson was dying.
Posted by: Puddleglum at April 29, 2014 11:19 PM (15w2J)

Like the Duke in The Shootist.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2014 06:22 PM (XeVA7)

194 So no one is watching, Clippers up by 10. 31-21. End of first quarter.

Posted by: L, elle at April 29, 2014 06:23 PM (p8TAe)

195 Idiocracy seems more a moron's paradise than dystopia.

Posted by: davidt at April 29, 2014 06:23 PM (PAplM)

196 Ft Polk sucks big hairy asscrack. Ive been stuck around Peason ridg3 for days without end, getting eatin by every blood suckin critter known to man.

Posted by: fastfreefall at April 29, 2014 06:23 PM (Tz35j)

197 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 11:19 PM (W6ugU) But the dying shriek of the hobo is an integral part of the dance! This idiotic assignment is *begging* for the Peruvia treatment. In fact E.K. asked me to tell you all so she could give it the last full measure of Moronitude.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 29, 2014 06:23 PM (GDulk)

198 "Heston as the cop, commenting on the price of cigarettes when he first goes to meet the girls in the apartment where the guy is murdered. Everything is outrageously expensive/hard to obtain/nonexistent due to overpopulation. A jar of strawberries is $150. " I forgot all that. My bad. I think they overshot cig prices a bit. Maybe cigars today. As a cig smoker they are expensive but not that bad. But, I'm being too literal and all.

Posted by: Chuck Heston at April 29, 2014 06:24 PM (lUwoD)

199 190 Uh oh Maet, you just might have spawned something new there... The Dildo Agonizer... as testified to by Sandra Fluke.Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 11:22 PM (W6ugU)
Is the alternate universe Sandra attractive?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2014 06:24 PM (XeVA7)

200 >> I just killed Ace. Now the blog is mine.
Your agonizer, Mr Dildo.

Posted by: maetenloch with a goatee at April 29, 2014 11:19 PM (D+5pt)

 

 

Maetenloch RULES the Wasteland.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2014 06:25 PM (wNF3N)

201 >>> Is the alternate universe Sandra attractive?

She has a goatee.  Looks better than the real one.

Posted by: Bomber at April 29, 2014 06:25 PM (NnTqs)

202 Don't forget the official handgun of Peruvia, the AK Style AR-15 Assualt 80mm Shotgun Rifle With a thirty caliber clip that can be emptied in 1.5 seconds. And a shoulder thing that goes up.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2014 06:26 PM (mx5oN)

203 Peruvian sinners are placed in barrels until their significant other completes the interpretive dance of rage.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 29, 2014 06:26 PM (L02KD)

204 200 190
Uh oh Maet, you just might have spawned something new there... The Dildo Agonizer... as testified to by Sandra Fluke.Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 11:22 PM (W6ugU)

Is the alternate universe Sandra attractive?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2014 11:24 PM (XeVA7)


Well she managed to assassinate her last two commanders. So yes.

Posted by: Mtenloch with the goatee at April 29, 2014 06:26 PM (pAlYe)

205

[Mætenloch:] ..."And yet the sum total effect of all these legal acts is to constrain the practical freedom of speech and thought for everyone not on the left and push us towards a more totalitarian society where there is no space for non-approved political beliefs or personal non-politicized speech."

 

Exactly so, Mætenloch. 

 

We're being herded into the pens of conformity...conformity to the Left's orthodoxy of thought and speech.

 

And I think we're heading into a combination of 1984 + Idiocracy.

So it will be both entertaining and disgustingly totalitarian, at the same time.

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 06:27 PM (emg5o)

206 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 29, 2014 11:22 PM (GEICT) Given that the entire class is female, that could be interesting. The "biting of the thumb" gesture is the *toned-down* version of what I wanted to suggest. The required sexism of different rules for the sexes *really* has me upset. Places with that sort of system invariably suck for the females.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 29, 2014 06:27 PM (GDulk)

207 Gee. No agony booth or agonizer clips on YouTube. I guess Trek patrols the skies for pirates. That's weird because there are other ST clips there.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at April 29, 2014 06:28 PM (D+5pt)

208 Bomber!

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 06:29 PM (RHlt3)

209
That photocopy video makes me so glad I never went into some sort of legal profession.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 29, 2014 06:29 PM (hJauc)

210 "201 >> I just killed Ace. Now the blog is mine. Your agonizer, Mr Dildo. Posted by: maetenloch with a goatee at April 29, 2014 11:19 PM (D+5pt) Maetenloch RULES the Wasteland." Yeah, go right ahead. The rifles are getting oiled and the ammo is getting checked as we speak. Well supplied we are. Bring. It. XOXOXO

Posted by: Chuck Heston at April 29, 2014 06:30 PM (lUwoD)

211 So no one is watching, Clippers up by 10. 31-21. End of first quarter. I am, kinda. Watched the Wizards game too. On in background. Peeking over the laptop occasionally.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 06:30 PM (0HooB)

212 Wow. Think they were trying to buy her off with status instead of cash? Makes E.K.'s creative writing instead of *actual* dance assignment seem less severe. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 29, 2014 11:21 PM (GDulk) Franklin probably figured she was no longer a virgin now, so put that thing to work for the good of the team. If true, it makes UNC's cheating scandal look awfully chaste.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 29, 2014 06:30 PM (HxSXm)

213 Polliwogette, I agree this needs to be satirized to its fullest extent.  But camouflage the pointy spear, hence hobgoblin instead of hobo.  So it slips through their filters to nestle there.

The Dance of the Barrel.  I have these Tyrolean dressed children dancing with these streamers around this giant Maypole type barrel.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 06:31 PM (W6ugU)

214 Given that the entire class is female, that could be interesting. *thud* Sorry, blacked out there for a second. Different rules for the sexes? Ok, here we go. It's a female dominated society. Like, males are second class servant citizens, just barely above slaves. They are kept in that position, and kept docile, by a very simple method. All women are required, upon reaching 18, to undergo plastic surgery in order to enhance their looks to the utmost. They also must undergo sexual training classes to maximize their skill. The women use sex to completely subvert the men.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 29, 2014 06:32 PM (GEICT)

215 Oh yeah, off "Chuck Heston" sock.

Posted by: Chuck Heston at April 29, 2014 06:32 PM (lUwoD)

216 We're being herded into the pens of conformity...conformity to the Left's orthodoxy of thought and speech. Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 11:27 PM (emg5o) That's another thing that bugs me about this assignment (along with wondering *why* the kids aren't actually learning ethnic dance , although I suspect its PC bs). All the rules the kids are coming up with are about *conforming*. E.K.'s group had "All men must wear blue jeans" and "No women can use glitter" which are appalling in both their triteness and controlling nature. When she suggested *moral* rules they laughed and said that everybody knew *those*.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 29, 2014 06:32 PM (GDulk)

217 Here's my interpretive dance class...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hLaM607sH0

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at April 29, 2014 06:33 PM (D+5pt)

218 Mirror Universe Sandra Fluke, do you really want to find out where she hides her Agonizer?  Why do you think two commanders are dead, they had a shocking discovery.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 06:33 PM (W6ugU)

219 Ok, here we go. It's a female dominated society. Like, males are second class servant citizens, just barely above slaves. They are kept in that position, and kept docile, by a very simple method. You just described 21st century America.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2014 06:34 PM (mx5oN)

220 The part that still gets me. Having women as "furniture." Just sayin' Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2014 11:00 PM (lUwoD) Ah, Buxomly! Roaringly splendid to have you here. How are you, sir? Heartily well, Your Highness. I dined hugely off of servants before I came into town. Um, you eat your servants? No, sir -- I eat *off* them. Why should I spend good money on tables when I have men standing idle?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 29, 2014 06:34 PM (AHzA7)

221 Mirror Universe Sandra Fluke, do you really want to find out where she hides her Agonizer? Why do you think two commanders are dead, they had a shocking discovery. Hmm, that's not an egg, is it?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 06:34 PM (0HooB)

222 28 Days Later because there you can magically survive being gut shot without a hospital.

Posted by: The wonders of the NHS at April 29, 2014 06:34 PM (wu/TK)

223 Fuck. Off Chuck sock. I'm too God Damn busy readying firearms and ammo for the final having it out.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2014 06:34 PM (lUwoD)

224 In compact or with the shoulder thing that goes up? And Polli, that's awesome. Although I believe that the female portion of the Dance of Peruvia is traditionally done topless. So….. Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 29, 2014 11:22 PM (GEICT) The compact but carried in the traditional "gangsta style". The traditional costume worn for public settings would be complete nudity, but for private settings the female may wear panties that say "If You Can Read This, You're Gettin Lucky!"

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 29, 2014 06:34 PM (HxSXm)

225 The national bird of Peruvia is the Ginger Wicket

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 29, 2014 06:35 PM (L02KD)

226 BCochran, I think there was a Star Trek:Next Generation episode.  Female dominated society with men as decoration.  Time they first tried to kill Wesley Crusher I think.  Now that I think on it, think there was a TOS episode where Enterprise's computer was given a personality by a woman dominated planet, Kirk about ripped the system out because it called him "dear."

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 06:37 PM (W6ugU)

227 Well I'd love for Peaches to come to Nebraska. Just seeing her stomp about in the winter wondering why it's so goddamn cold would be an 11 on the funny meter.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 29, 2014 06:37 PM (oFCZn)

228 206 And I think we're heading into a combination of 1984 + Idiocracy. So it will be both entertaining and disgustingly totalitarian, at the same time. Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 11:27 PM (emg5o) Actually, right now I think we have more of the mindless hedonism of Brave New World than the iron-fisted brutality of 1984. For an awful lot of people, the only freedom they care about is sexual freedom. Throw in some Brazil, too, for legal and bureaucratic absurdity. (Which Havel alluded to, actually.)

Posted by: rickl at April 29, 2014 06:38 PM (sdi6R)

229 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 29, 2014 11:14 PM (GDulk) well.... of course Male Peruvians cannot wear pants after 5:00 PM...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 29, 2014 06:38 PM (84gbM)

230 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 11:31 PM (W6ugU) Lol. I'm intending to take it up with the school. I have no problem with the assignment *in a creative writing class* (well, the different rules thing would be a problem). The issue is that it's supposed to be a dance class and *why* can't the kids learn various ethnic dances? Heck, they have a *very* diverse student body, why not see if any of the kids sre familiar with the dances from their various cultures and let them demonstrate? As it is, the minuscule dance segments will be at best highly derivative and the vastly larger "culture" portion will be a nightmare.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 29, 2014 06:38 PM (GDulk)

231 I sort of vaguely remember that ST:TNG episode you're talking about. Hahahahaha.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 29, 2014 06:39 PM (GEICT)

232 I'm thinking we are headed for 1984/Animil Farm...

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 06:39 PM (RHlt3)

233 203 Don't forget the official handgun of Peruvia, the AK Style AR-15 Assualt 80mm Shotgun Rifle With a thirty caliber clip that can be emptied in 1.5 seconds. And a shoulder thing that goes up. Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2014 11:26 PM (mx5oN) My 45mm holds more rounds though.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 06:39 PM (QeH9j)

234 Amusing ourselves to death.
It's been on here before but maybe bears repeating,

http://tinyurl.com/k9tesbj

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2014 06:40 PM (XeVA7)

235 well.... of course Male Peruvians cannot wear pants after 5:00 PM... Posted by: Romeo13 at April 29, 2014 11:38 PM (84gbM) I did tell her that a Horde rule was "No pants!" unless that would get you arrested.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 29, 2014 06:41 PM (GDulk)

236 I sort of vaguely remember that ST:TNG episode you're talking about. Me too. Riker was the envoy from the Federation. The girl president of the planet was hot IIRC, and treated Riker like a steak at first.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 06:41 PM (0HooB)

237 Throw in some Brazil, too, for legal and bureaucratic absurdity. (Which Havel alluded to, actually.) Posted by: rickl at April 29, 2014 11:38 PM (sdi6R) Heard 'Brazil' mentioned here more in the last two days than in my lifetime. What is it?

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 06:41 PM (QeH9j)

238 Peruvian independence day is celebrated by setting all the rivers on fire.

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at April 29, 2014 06:42 PM (L02KD)

239 I have been ruminating quite a lot about our current state of affairs. I am of the opinion that, in years past, whatever the party, presidential administrations were, at the very least, interested in maintaining an appearance of propriety, however miniscule. That is all down the crapper now. Not even a simulacrum of propriety is necessary. Just blind obedience. But, to what? Even that changes every week or so.

Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 06:42 PM (JgC5a)

240 With a thirty caliber clip that can be emptied in 1.5 seconds. And a shoulder thing that goes up. >>

Link to testing of the first part. Just cause it's fun the way Jerry deals with it.
http://tinyurl.com/ljbem83

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 06:42 PM (5bbdJ)

241 I'm not going to bother Binging the title but there was a made-for-TV sci-fi movie in the 1970s with a female-dominated society where the male slaves were called "Dinks". John Saxon was in it IIRC.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at April 29, 2014 06:43 PM (D+5pt)

242 "8 Well I'd love for Peaches to come to Nebraska. " I don't wish that shit on anyone. Nobody needs snow in their life. Bunch of bullshit. Go south. Heat is one thing. Frozen roads and shitters and everything else is something else.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2014 06:43 PM (lUwoD)

243 Never seen Brazil?  It has Robert deNiro in it!  He plays a wanted criminal guilty of a heinous crime - he is an illegal repairman!  Yep.

Then because a roach falls into a teletype arrest warrant machine, instead of deNiro being wanted on one poster.  This mild mannered innocent guy becomes also the most wanted.

Remember "Suspicion breeds confidence!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 06:44 PM (W6ugU)

244 Amused to Death - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS35PVNzpOk

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 06:44 PM (0HooB)

245 >> Heard 'Brazil' mentioned here more in the last two days than in my lifetime. What is it?
 
It's a waxing, AND a dessert topping.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2014 06:44 PM (wNF3N)

246 Ft Polk sucks big hairy asscrack. Ive been stuck around Peason ridg3 for days without end, getting eatin by every blood suckin critter known to man. Posted by: fastfreefall at April 29, 2014 11:23 PM (Tz35j) Heh. I rotated through JRTC in Ft Chaffee, AR about 3 years before the move to Polk. Dodged a bullet there.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 29, 2014 06:44 PM (AHzA7)

247 Heard 'Brazil' mentioned here more in the last two days than in my lifetime. What is it?

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 11:41 PM (QeH9j)



A country in South America.

Posted by: Gamera at April 29, 2014 06:44 PM (XRSxm)

248 238 Heard 'Brazil' mentioned here more in the last two days than in my lifetime. What is it? Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 11:41 PM (QeH9j) It's a dystopian movie directed by Terry Gilliam from Monty Python. I loved it. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088846/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Posted by: rickl at April 29, 2014 06:45 PM (sdi6R)

249 195: Its on TV here at work. Don't care though.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 29, 2014 06:45 PM (15w2J)

250 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 11:44 PM (W6ugU) So it's worth watching I presume.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 06:46 PM (QeH9j)

251 Fuck this planet. Seriously.

Posted by: SGT Dan at April 29, 2014 06:46 PM (Y9g6h)

252 Geeze. 1985.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 06:46 PM (QeH9j)

253 242 I'm not going to bother Binging the title but there was a made-for-TV sci-fi movie in the 1970s with a female-dominated society where the male slaves were called "Dinks". John Saxon was in it IIRC. Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2014 11:43 PM (D+5pt) Planet Earth http://tinyurl.com/n27otkp

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 29, 2014 06:46 PM (GEICT)

254 I saw Big Hairy Asscrack open for the Butthole Surfers at Lollapallooza in '95.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 29, 2014 06:47 PM (AHzA7)

255 We'll always have Damnation Alley to look forward to.

Posted by: Since Lucifer's Hammer is out of the question at April 29, 2014 06:48 PM (wu/TK)

256 SGT Dan, I am still awaiting for this planet to get potted in a game of extra-dimensional galactic billiards on a bank shot.  Or to make way for a hyper-space bypass.

RWC it is very surreal.  Just wait for the Saran-wrap scene.  Or the blokes wearing the pig masks.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 06:48 PM (W6ugU)

257 Posted by: Gamera at April 29, 2014 11:44 PM (XRSxm) Knew that was coming. It's a dystopian movie directed by Terry Gilliam from Monty Python. I loved it. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088846/?ref_=nv_sr_1 Posted by: rickl at April 29, 2014 11:45 PM (sdi6R) Gonna check it out. As long as Amazon/Netflix is working. Tried to watch more firefly tonight and 'service unavailable.'

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 06:49 PM (QeH9j)

258 Heard 'Brazil' mentioned here more in the last two days than in my lifetime. What is it?

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 11:41 PM (QeH9j)



Summer's getting close.  Everyone's thinking about waxed ladies.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 29, 2014 06:49 PM (KNXgp)

259 242 I'm not going to bother Binging the title but there was a made-for-TV sci-fi movie in the 1970s with a female-dominated society where the male slaves were called "Dinks". John Saxon was in it IIRC. Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2014 11:43 PM (D+5pt)

Planet Earth

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072000/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_134

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2014 06:50 PM (XeVA7)

260 Heard 'Brazil' mentioned here more in the last two days than in my lifetime. What is it?

Largest country in South America -- but that's not important now.

Posted by: Zombie Leslie Nielsen and you walked into that one at April 29, 2014 06:50 PM (xq1UY)

261 >A persistent and never-ending appeal to the laws – not just to the laws concerning human rights, but to all laws – does not mean at all that those who do so have succumbed to the illusion that in our system the law is anything other than what it is. They are well aware of the role it plays. But precisely because they know how desperately the system depends on it – on the ‘noble’ version of the law, that is – they also know how enormously significant such appeals are. Because the system cannot do without the law, because it is hopelessly tied down by the necessity of pretending the laws are observed, it is compelled to react in some way to such appeals. Demanding that the laws be upheld is thus an act of living within the truth that threatens the whole mendacious structure at its point of maximum mendacity. Over and over again, such appeals make the purely ritualistic nature of the law clear to society and to those who inhabit its power structures. They draw attention to its real material substance and thus, indirectly, compel all those who take refuge behind the law to affirm and make credible this agency of excuses, this means of communication, this reinforcement of the social arteries outside of which their will could not be made to circulate through society. They are compelled to do so for the sake of their own consciences, for the impression they make on outsiders, to maintain themselves in power (as part of the system’s own mechanism of self-preservation and its principles of cohesion), or simply out of fear that they will be reproached for being ‘clumsy’ in handling the ritual. They have no other choice: because they cannot discard the rules of their own game, they can only attend more carefully to those rules. Not to react to challenges means to undermine their own excuse and lose control of their mutual communications system. To assume that the laws are a mere facade, that they have no validity and that therefore it is pointless to appeal to them would mean to go on reinforcing those aspects of the law that create the facade and the ritual. It would mean confirming the law as an aspect of the world of appearances and enabling those who exploit it to rest easy with the cheapest (and therefore the most mendacious) form of their excuse. < @Havel page 76

Posted by: newrouter at April 29, 2014 06:50 PM (hudvF)

262 I thought the shoe hats were a nice touch.

Posted by: rickl at April 29, 2014 06:50 PM (sdi6R)

263 Who's the resident firearms law expert? I have a question about the legality of an heirloom rifle.

Posted by: JohnJ at April 29, 2014 06:50 PM (TF/YA)

264 Good night, Leslie.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 29, 2014 06:51 PM (xq1UY)

265 And whomever was asking about the Agonizer, don't think it was an egg.

*rolls against Sanity and barely makes it*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 06:51 PM (W6ugU)

266 Posted by: newrouter = wall of text...

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 06:52 PM (RHlt3)

267 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 11:48 PM (W6ugU) Saran wrap and pig mask scene. This feels like when I was told about the scene in Pink Flamingos. (And how far have we gone from 'Pink Flamingos' is nasty, nasty back then. Nowadays 'two girls one cup' is meh.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 06:52 PM (QeH9j)

268 Who's the resident firearms law expert? I have a question about the legality of an heirloom rifle. Andrew Branca. I'd try him on Twitter first, tho'. He's here sporadically.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 06:53 PM (0HooB)

269 Who's the resident firearms law expert? I have a question about the legality of an heirloom rifle. Posted by: JohnJ at April 29, 2014 11:50 PM (TF/YA) give it a go. Full Auto?

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 06:53 PM (RHlt3)

270 234 203 Don't forget the official handgun of Peruvia, the AK Style AR-15 Assualt 80mm Shotgun Rifle With a thirty caliber clip that can be emptied in 1.5 seconds. And a shoulder thing that goes up. Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2014 11:26 PM (mx5oN) My 45mm holds more rounds though. Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 11:39 PM (QeH9j) No, the 80mm clip holds more mags because, duh, bigger! BTW, if we go Mad Max, I call dibs on Lord Humungus, warrior of the wasteland, the Lord Humungus, and the ayatollah of rock-and-rollah.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 29, 2014 06:53 PM (HxSXm)

271 newrouter at April 29, 2014 11:50 PM (hudvF) ******* Dude, do you ever use formatting? Never mind the source, you can actually change that.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 29, 2014 06:54 PM (ojnk6)

272

For Pi.

Take the first three odd numbers:1 3 5

Double each one:1 1 3 3 5 5

Take the last three and put them at the beginning with a slash right after them: 3 5 5 / 1 1 3

That gives you a fraction: 355/113. That's equal to Pi to 5 or 6 decimal points. Much better than government work rquires, and you can save all of those shotgun rounds for zombie hunting.

Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at April 29, 2014 06:54 PM (jqHOY)

273 258 It's a dystopian movie directed by Terry Gilliam from Monty Python. I loved it. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088846/?ref_=nv_sr_1 Posted by: rickl at April 29, 2014 11:45 PM (sdi6R) Gonna check it out. Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 11:49 PM (QeH9j) It's pretty grim overall but also darkly humorous, with a healthy dose of the absurd.

Posted by: rickl at April 29, 2014 06:54 PM (sdi6R)

274 Posted by: JohnJ at April 29, 2014 11:50 PM (TF/YA) I would take any legal advice with a grain of salt on an ONT. But what and where?

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 06:54 PM (QeH9j)

275 A 1929 marlin semi auto open bolt, I was told. I think the concern is that it could be easily converted to full auto.

Posted by: JohnJ at April 29, 2014 06:55 PM (TF/YA)

276 Utopia - literally, "nowhere." Dystopia - literally, "nowhere I want to be."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 06:56 PM (0HooB)

277 It's pretty grim overall but also darkly humorous, with a healthy dose of the absurd. Posted by: rickl at April 29, 2014 11:54 PM (sdi6R Sounds good.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 06:56 PM (QeH9j)

278 Brazil, officially the Federative Republic of Brazil (Portuguese: República Federativa do Brasil, is the largest country in both South America and the Latin American region. It is the world's fifth largest country, both by geographical area and by population. It is the largest Lusophone country in the world, and the only one in the Americas.

Posted by: Soledad O'Brien's Earpiece at April 29, 2014 06:56 PM (HxSXm)

279 Andrew Branca. I'd try him on Twitter first, tho'. He's here sporadically.>>

You could also try the Ask Andrew section of his blog. The Law of self defense.

http://lawofselfdefense.com/ask-andrew/

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 06:58 PM (5bbdJ)

280 A 1929 marlin semi auto open bolt, I was told. I think the concern is that it could be easily converted to full auto. Posted by: JohnJ at April 29, 2014 11:55 PM (TF/YA) never heard of it specifically, but then any semi-auto can be converted, if someone was really intent on doing so. But don't do that(convert it), NFA violations can be 10 years and $10k

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 06:59 PM (RHlt3)

281 Utopia - Nowhere. Dystopia - Everywhere.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2014 07:00 PM (XeVA7)

282 276 >> A 1929 marlin semi auto open bolt, I was told. I think the concern is that it could be easily converted to full auto.
 
As long as it takes one trigger pull per bullet fired, it is not an automatic*
 
*sez this totally not a lawyer dude.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2014 07:00 PM (wNF3N)

283 No, the 80mm clip holds more mags because, duh, bigger! BTW, if we go Mad Max, I call dibs on Lord Humungus, warrior of the wasteland, the Lord Humungus, and the ayatollah of rock-and-rollah. Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at April 29, 2014 11:53 PM (HxSXm) 45mm, 80mm. Doesn't matter. I have the SHOULDER THING THAT GOES DOWN Game changer!

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 07:00 PM (QeH9j)

284 A 1929 marlin semi auto open bolt, I was told. I think the concern is that it could be easily converted to full auto.>>

Tons of guns are easily converted. Your cool as long as one trigger pull only sends one bullet down range.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 07:01 PM (5bbdJ)

285 Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 11:42 PM (JgC5a) The concept of noblesse oblige has gone out the window, and the pseudo-nobility don't care that the peasants know they are mere tools in a game that they can't win and can't quit!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 29, 2014 07:01 PM (o3MSL)

286 JohnJ is this the type of weapon you are referring to?

http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=8574483

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 07:01 PM (W6ugU)

287 Utopia - Oops, Wrong Planet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS9HJNtqqYA

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 07:01 PM (0HooB)

288 273 Much better than government work rquires, and you can save all of those shotgun rounds for zombie hunting.
Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at April 29, 2014 11:54 PM (jqHOY)

Is that common core?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2014 07:03 PM (XeVA7)

289 276 A 1929 marlin semi auto open bolt, I was told. I think the concern is that it could be easily converted to full auto.
Posted by: JohnJ at April 29, 2014 11:55 PM (TF/YA)


Yes the ATF tends to frown upon open bolt semi-auto guns since they're so easy to convert to full auto. I know this applies to new designs and sales but I'm not sure if it applies to already existing firearms. Because it's so easy to convert, it may fall under the 'constructive possession' of a machine gun rules and so be banned under the 1986 law ending registration of machine guns.

Posted by: Mtenloch with the goatee at April 29, 2014 07:04 PM (pAlYe)

290 I was proud of President Obama today, so proud when he fired that red-neck clown owner of the Clippers for calling a person of color such disgusting names. So damn proud of our black president to be above name calling and racism.

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at April 29, 2014 07:04 PM (hP/Mt)

291 OK, dystopians, it's bedtime for Bonzo. Y'all have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit [/i][/s][/b][/u] at April 29, 2014 07:04 PM (0HooB)

292 According to Wikipedia, the ATF made a ruling that open bolt semi-autos were to be classed as machine guns, but only for weapons manufactured after that ruling.

Posted by: JohnJ at April 29, 2014 07:07 PM (TF/YA)

293 I have the SHOULDER THING THAT GOES DOWN Game changer! Posted by: RWC -------------- You all seem to be forgetting the one that fires an entire cartridge.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2014 07:07 PM (aDwsi)

294 Going to denounce myself, but if I was Sterling and had no say in something I own and had to sell it I would auction it off to the first inner city/underpriveledged school and give them the rights. I win by giving some PC accepted class a leg up. But i would be taping the hell out of folks conversations.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 07:08 PM (QeH9j)

295 Because it's so easy to convert, it may fall under the 'constructive possession' of a machine gun rules and so be banned under the 1986 law ending registration of machine guns. Posted by: Mætenloch with the goatee at April 30, 2014 12:04 AM (pAlYe) 1986 was about new manufactured sales to the public. existing firearms were not addressed I don't think. FYI the 1986 law passed on a voice vote.....

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 07:08 PM (RHlt3)

296 45mm, 80mm. Doesn't matter. I have the SHOULDER THING THAT GOES DOWN Game changer! Posted by: RWC at April 30, 2014 12:00 AM (QeH9j) Only a game changer if it has pistol grips and a curved clip and an attached flashlight.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at April 29, 2014 07:08 PM (HxSXm)

297 Anna Puma

I guess that could be it. I haven't seen it. I'm asking for a friend. No, really!

Posted by: JohnJ at April 29, 2014 07:09 PM (TF/YA)

298 You all seem to be forgetting the one that fires an entire cartridge.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 30, 2014 12:07 AM (aDwsi)

I'm waiting to see the photo of the gun firing an entire box of cartridges.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2014 07:09 PM (XeVA7)

299 A gun that fires an entire cartridge?  Thought that was called a crossbow?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 07:09 PM (W6ugU)

300 John J

I own a MK760 semi auto that becomes full auto (with the problem of one trigger pull empties the entire magazine) with the removal of one spring. I see them sold all the time still. So the distinction of open bolt shouldn't be different.

But as was said above I'm not a lawyer and there may be some specific law in your state. If you are worried transfer it from the estate to you through a licensed FFL. They will know and for under a $100 bucks you'll have paperwork to give you peace of mind.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 07:10 PM (5bbdJ)

301 According to Wikipedia, the ATF made a ruling that open bolt semi-autos were to be classed as machine guns, but only for weapons manufactured after that ruling. Posted by: JohnJ at April 30, 2014 12:07 AM (TF/YA) would not worry about it Anna Puma posted a link to a current sale

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 07:10 PM (RHlt3)

302

@289 Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 30, 2014 12:03 AM (XeVA7)

Pfffft; I went to school when we had to actually (gasp) learn stuff. Common core can suck my manly (by which I mean hairy) hind-quarters. The 355/113 approximation has been known for thousands of years. Our ancestors weren't complete idiots; something our progressive overlords forget.

Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at April 29, 2014 07:11 PM (jqHOY)

303 Posted by: JohnJ at April 30, 2014 12:07 AM (TF/YA) ATF has a pen and a phone. They change shot daily. Don't think you're safe until you personally get a letter. And then I wouldn't feel safe.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 07:11 PM (QeH9j)

304 Well it's time to take the trash out so that the city can throw the recycling bins all over the place tomorrow. See yall later.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at April 29, 2014 07:13 PM (HxSXm)

305 Thanks for letting me rant guys. Stuff like this makes me suspect that Common Core is just a re-packaging (so schools buy new textbooks again and somebody'd cousin makes a fortune) of the wretched stuff that's been going on for decades. Well, that and the power-grab is certainly more obvious this time around.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 29, 2014 07:13 PM (GDulk)

306 290 Adding a piece of string to a semi-auto can be considered 'converting' the weapon to full auto:
 
http://tinyurl.com/o7vwgmu
 
The ATF seems real intent on that 'one trigger pull, one bullet' thingie.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2014 07:14 PM (wNF3N)

307 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 30, 2014 12:13 AM (GDulk) my oldest starts kindergarden next year and I'm a bit freeked by CC

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 07:14 PM (RHlt3)

308 heh. Turns out that cartridge-firing guns are more common than I realized,especially among the anti-gun Nazis.: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172143865

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2014 07:14 PM (aDwsi)

309 'Night Ahley Judd's

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 07:14 PM (QeH9j)

310 Ashley.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 07:14 PM (QeH9j)

311 Anytime Polliwogette.  Time for me to scoot also.

Think will pop Metropolis into the PS3 and while that plays, write.

Night all.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 29, 2014 07:15 PM (W6ugU)

312 For the curious: how that ohio case where they trid to charge 2 buck per back photocopy fees for public records that cost only about 2 bucks to give the whole database on a compact disc, copies of which were already routinely made: http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/rod/docs/pdf/0/2012/2012-Ohio-753.pdf TL;dr. The county recorder lost and had to hand over the discs at cost.

Posted by: SarahW at April 29, 2014 07:15 PM (Lbv/k)

313 Common core in Indiana has been replaced by Common core junior.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2014 07:16 PM (XeVA7)

314 I think his concern was that 1982 ruling about open bolt semi-autos. I'll let him know that doesn't apply in this case.

Thanks, guys!

Posted by: JohnJ at April 29, 2014 07:16 PM (TF/YA)

315 The Bloomberg anti gun group cartridge firing gun.

http://tinyurl.com/lae4tos

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 07:18 PM (5bbdJ)

316 Peaches, may I suggest Georgia. First, your name matches it. Second, I live here and like it. On the other hand, Texas (land of my birth) has no state income taxes.

Posted by: Alana at April 29, 2014 07:19 PM (d7xEg)

317 303
@289 Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 30, 2014 12:03 AM (XeVA7)
Pfffft; I went to school when we had to actually (gasp) learn stuff. Common core can suck my manly (by which I mean hairy) hind-quarters. The 355/113 approximation has been known for thousands of years. Our ancestors weren't complete idiots; something our progressive overlords forget. Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at April 30, 2014 12:11 AM (jqHOY) Hide posts from (jqHOY)



The reason that it's important to be a nation of laws and not men is that men change their minds while the laws are written down and are constant -- right or wrong.



....except when 2500 pages of them are passed in the dead of night without being read and are thereafter "interpreted" to mean exactly the opposite of what they were generally understood to mean the morning after the vote. And your best resource for researching this is Wikipedia, which doesn't say now what it said this morning.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 07:19 PM (T1005)

318 Posted by: Zip74 at April 30, 2014 12:14 AM (RHlt3) The thing is, I'm new to the area so I can't be sure but, I don't think they're using common core. I really do want to know though why an Ethnic Dance unit has no *actual* ethnic dances.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 29, 2014 07:20 PM (GDulk)

319 Hickster - Thnx for the link. I couldn't find it. Wonder how much they paid for that?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2014 07:20 PM (aDwsi)

320 307 290 Adding a piece of string to a semi-auto can be considered 'converting' the weapon to full auto:
http://tinyurl.com/o7vwgmu

The ATF seems real intent on that 'one trigger pull, one bullet' thingie.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 30, 2014 12:14 AM (wNF3N)


Yet the ATF approved the Tac-Con trigger which gives you near full-auto firing due to its super-minimal reset. I'm tempted to get one but it's hard to justify the price. https://tacconusa.com/

Posted by: Mtenloch with the goatee at April 29, 2014 07:20 PM (pAlYe)

321 Straw Hat ONT Compliance Pic pic.twitter.com/13b3SQImSr

Posted by: kbdabear at April 29, 2014 07:21 PM (aTXUx)

322 It looks like they used one of Yosemite Sam's guns as a model for the barrel of the gun that fired that cartridge

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2014 07:21 PM (aDwsi)

323 Hooray for me! Honeypie is getting me a shiny new firearm and CC training! Boy do I love April.

Posted by: tcn at April 29, 2014 07:21 PM (g+qqc)

324 Posted by: Mætenloch with the goatee at April 30, 2014 12:20 AM (pAlYe) Cabelas sells the 'bump fire' stock which name I can't recall right now. any moron know the name of it? they are like $350usd

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 07:23 PM (RHlt3)

325 If you were a mathematician, wouldn't you know the value of pi? Wouldn't you know circumference/diameter? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2014 07:25 PM (j7iSn)

326 Hickster - Thnx for the link. I couldn't find it. Wonder how much they paid for that?>>

I'd just say "too much" but I'm pretty sure the stealing from the tax payer and paying idiots is their go to policy.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 07:25 PM (5bbdJ)

327 I think we'll get the iron-fisted brutality of 1984. The people will demand it. The Left is already demanding it, and asserting it. We'll come to demand it ourselves, for self-protection.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 29, 2014 07:26 PM (30eLQ)

328 As to the Dystopia?

Hope for Logan's run.

Expect to get Mad Max

Wind up with Soylent Green

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Waiting For SMODOT) at April 29, 2014 07:26 PM (JS0vr)

329 I should probably go google for pictures of lilacs and puppies.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 29, 2014 07:26 PM (30eLQ)

330 If you were a mathematician, wouldn't you know the value of pi? Wouldn't you know circumference/diameter? --------------- CC only requires that one 'think critically' about Pi, not actually know the value.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2014 07:28 PM (aDwsi)

331 I really do want to know though why an Ethnic Dance unit has no *actual* ethnic dances. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 30, 2014 12:20 AM (GDulk) got here late, don't know the details, but first guess is racism

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 07:29 PM (RHlt3)

332 "The few survivors suddenly need to know the value of pi" . Except they really needed to know the value of an apple pie, which they wanted to trade to you for some ammunition... which you just wasted on an aluminum target.

Posted by: malclave at April 29, 2014 07:30 PM (OCRaO)

333

229 206
And I think we're heading into a combination of 1984 + Idiocracy. 
 

So it will be both entertaining and disgustingly totalitarian, at the same time. 

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 11:27 PM (emg5o)

 

 

Actually, right now I think we have more of the mindless hedonism of Brave New World than the iron-fisted brutality of 1984. 

 


Posted by: rickl at April 29, 2014 11:38 PM (sdi6R) 

 

-----------

 

We're seeing every government agency being weaponized, before our eyes.

Even the friggin BLM has now got SWAT teams and mercs.

 

We may not have seen the 'iron-fisted brutality' in action yet, with body counts...but they are certainly getting themselves prepared for it. 

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 07:30 PM (emg5o)

334 ....Even the friggin BLM has now got SWAT teams and mercs. Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2014 12:30 AM (emg5o) fuck man! everyone knows the Dept of Ed. SWAT team kicks the BLM SWAT teams ass google it

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 07:33 PM (RHlt3)

335 any moron know the name of it? they are like $350usd>>

I thought they were all just called Bump Fire stocks. But the one Cabellas sells appears to be a Slide Fire.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Slide-Fire-AR-Stock/1403492.uts

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 07:33 PM (5bbdJ)

336 321, 325
 
The first time I fired a semi-auto 12 gauge shotgun, I fired it twice by accident -- and it scared the fuck out out of me.  It was a borrowed gun. I had fired revolvers many times, but that was my first experience with a self reloading semi. That, plus the major kick factor, led to a double shot.
 
Someone should have warned me. Instead, I learned by that most ancient method -- the school of hard knocks.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2014 07:34 PM (wNF3N)

337 Posted by: The Hickster at April 30, 2014 12:33 AM (5bbdJ) thanks. That is is, Slide Fire

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 07:35 PM (RHlt3)

338 We may not have seen the 'iron-fisted brutality' in action yet, with body counts...but they are certainly getting themselves prepared for it.>>

Um Waco?

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 07:35 PM (5bbdJ)

339 any moron know the name of it? they are like $350usd Posted by: Zip74 at April 30, 2014 12:23 AM (RHlt3) SlideFire. Bloomberg is going after them I believe.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 07:37 PM (QeH9j)

340

335 ....Even the friggin BLM has now got SWAT teams and mercs.

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2014 12:30 AM (emg5o)

 

 


fuck man! everyone knows the Dept of Ed. SWAT team kicks the BLM SWAT teams ass

 

google it

 

Posted by: Zip74 at April 30, 2014 12:33 AM (RHlt3) 

 

-----------

 

Heh.

Well the IRS's SWAT team can probably kick anybody's ass...and follow it up with a colonoscopy afterward.

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 07:38 PM (emg5o)

341 Which one of you morons left this over on Hot Air?:


Parkour: leave it to the French to turn running away into a sport. . .

Ealye79 on April 29, 2014 at 6:55 PM



Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 07:38 PM (T1005)

342 Um Waco? Posted by: The Hickster --------------- We are not jackbooted thugs - Bill Clinton

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2014 07:39 PM (aDwsi)

343 Even the friggin BLM has now got SWAT teams and mercs. Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2014 12:30 AM (emg5o) fuck man! everyone knows the Dept of Ed. SWAT team kicks the BLM SWAT teams ass google it Posted by: Zip74 at April 30, 2014 12:33 AM (RHlt3) ----------- Heh. Well the IRS's SWAT team can probably kick anybody's ass...and follow it up witha colonoscopy afterward. Posted by: wheatie ---------------------------- They're all piker pussies. Wait until you rub up against the Bureau of Labor Statistics SWAT guys.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2014 07:41 PM (aDwsi)

344 "We are not jackbooted thugs - Bill Clinton" The dickens, you say! Tell that to the Cuban kid you stole from Miami so he could grow up in the worker's paradise of Cuba.

Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 07:41 PM (JgC5a)

345 Serious, I think the Dept of Ed. has a SWAT Team, I think Mark Steyn wrote about it

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 07:42 PM (RHlt3)

346 “The Office of Inspector General is the law enforcement arm of the U.S. Department of Education and is responsible for the detection of waste, fraud, abuse, and other criminal activity involving Federal education funds, programs, and operations. As such, OIG operates with full statutory law enforcement authority, which includes conducting search warrants, making arrests, and carrying firearms. The acquisition of these firearms is necessary to replace older and mechanically malfunctioning firearms, and in compliance with Federal procurement requirements. For more information on OIG’s law enforcement authority, please visit their Web site at : www.ed.gov/oig”

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2014 07:44 PM (aDwsi)

347

339...Um Waco?
 

 

Posted by: The Hickster at April 30, 2014 12:35 AM (5bbdJ)

 

----------

 

Yeah...Waco, Ruby Ridge. Both examples of how bad it could get.

Those people were given the death penalty without a trial.

 

I think the Bundy Ranch thing could've gotten bloody, if there hadn't been so many witnesses around with video cameras.

 

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 07:44 PM (emg5o)

348 We are not jackbooted thugs - Bill Clinton>>

Much like "you didn't have sex with that woman"

Oh I would have thanked you for that distinction  "IF I WERE FUCKING YOUNGER AND GETTING NON SEXUAL BLOW JOBS"

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 07:44 PM (5bbdJ)

349 Posted by: Zip74 at April 30, 2014 12:42 AM (RHlt3) Weather Service too, I think.

Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2014 07:45 PM (j7iSn)

350 >>>> Who's the resident firearms law expert? I have a question about the legality of an heirloom rifle.

"Andrew Branca."

Regrettably, no. AB is an expert in the law of self-defense.

(Buy his book on that subject! Go to one of his seminars! He is THE MAN.)

The law of self-defense, as AB points out, is reasonably consistent from state to state, enough so that he can cover it in reasonable amounts of time, taking account of state-specific peculiarities.

Whereas firearms legality laws vary _wildly_ from state to state, and are often not very logical or consistent, and AB advances no claim to be an expert in all of them.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 29, 2014 07:46 PM (noWW6)

351 Lets turn it around. Any FED govt. agency that does not have a swat team? BLS?

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 07:46 PM (RHlt3)

352 Well, it is possible that the people at Dept. of Ed are trying to determine the value of Pi. There, we've come full circle, as it were.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2014 07:46 PM (aDwsi)

353 I have also been ruminating on the problem of John Kerry. I have it figured out. The whole he rambles on in that Brahmin New England accent, his audience is just looking at him and thinking "What the fuck is wrong with that dude's face???"

Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 07:47 PM (JgC5a)

354 Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 30, 2014 12:46 AM (aDwsi) ISWYDT

Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2014 07:47 PM (j7iSn)

355 Weather Service too, I think. Posted by: Bign ------------------------ One supposes they will round up Global Warming deniers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2014 07:48 PM (aDwsi)

356 The Left is already demanding it, and asserting it. We'll come to demand it ourselves, for self-protection.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 30, 2014 12:26 AM (30eLQ)



The Left only needed 20 years to take "Gay Marriage" from a mental disease to ruling orthodoxy.

Posted by: Gamera at April 29, 2014 07:48 PM (XRSxm)

357 Sorry, the word "time" did not appear in my prior missive. Danged solar powered keyboard...

Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 07:48 PM (JgC5a)

358 Como estan, beechez!?!

Posted by: NOAA's SWAT teams at April 29, 2014 07:49 PM (IlmuV)

359

Does the Postal Dept. have a SWAT team?

 

They actually may not need one.

They're the reason the term "going Postal" came to be. 

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 07:49 PM (emg5o)

360 Serious, I think the Dept of Ed. has a SWAT Team, I think Mark Steyn wrote about it Posted by: Zip74 at April 30, 2014 12:42 AM (RHlt3) ***** Various Depts. Have been buying ammo. This does not mean that DOE is gonna take over the planet. However, putting it into Federal ownership is disturbing.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 29, 2014 07:49 PM (ojnk6)

361 Danged solar powered keyboard...

Yeah they get kinda wonky at night for some reason don't they.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 07:51 PM (5bbdJ)

362 Crpies, I thought it was a joke, but...: "Recently the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration purchased 72,000 Smith & Wesson .40 handgun rounds while the National Weather Service acquired 46,000 hollow point rounds."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2014 07:51 PM (aDwsi)

363 Como estan, beechez!?! Posted by: NOAA's SWAT teams at April 30, 2014 12:49 AM (IlmuV) thread winner?

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 07:51 PM (RHlt3)

364 346 Serious, I think the Dept of Ed. has a SWAT Team, I think Mark Steyn wrote about it Posted by: Zip74 at April 30, 2014 12:42 AM (RHlt3) It does. Shotgun is their go-to.qq

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 07:52 PM (QeH9j)

365

354 I have also been ruminating on the problem of John Kerry. I have it figured out.

 

 

The whole he rambles on in that Brahmin New England accent, his audience is just looking at him and thinking

 

 

"What the fuck is wrong with that dude's face???"

 

 

Posted by: navybrat at April 30, 2014 12:47 AM (JgC5a) 

 

-------------

 

Heh.

Well how do we know for sure that that is really John Kerry?

 

It sort of looks like John Kerry...but Kerry is rich enough to afford a clone of himself.

That way, he can stay home and send the clone out to get shot at.

 

The real John Kerry could be kicking back on his yacht somewhere.

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 07:55 PM (emg5o)

366 Ok so every ass wipe agency has a SWAT team... Any history geeks out there? In world history has there been a counctry more heavily armed than the USA in 2014? I saw where they set a record in 2013 of 8.5 million firearms sold in the US. Something like 30 million guns sold durring JEF's tenure.

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 07:56 PM (RHlt3)

367 The U.S. Department of Education (ED) intends to purchase twenty-seven (27) REMINGTON BRAND MODEL 870 POLICE 12/14P MOD GRWC XS4 KXCS SF. RAMAC #24587 GAUGE: 12 BARREL: 14" - PARKERIZED CHOKE: MODIFIED SIGHTS: GHOST RING REAR WILSON COMBAT; FRONT - XS CONTOUR BEAD SIGHT STOCK: KNOXX REDUCE RECOIL ADJUSTABLE STOCK FORE-END: SPEEDFEED SPORT-SOLID - 14" LOP are designated as the only shotguns authorized for ED based on compatibility with ED existing shotgun inventory, certified armor and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts. ---- Land of the free. Home of the brave.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 07:56 PM (QeH9j)

368 Various Depts. Have been buying ammo. This does not mean that DOE is gonna take over the planet. However, putting it into Federal ownership is disturbing.>>

Odd that all these fed depts have been buying up ammo and the Military is about to destroy  over a $billion of it.

http://tinyurl.com/kpsasb8

Bonus link on Homeland security buying ammo.
http://tinyurl.com/b68cllo

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 07:56 PM (5bbdJ)

369 363 Crpies, I thought it was a joke, but...: "Recently the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration purchased 72,000 Smith & Wesson .40 handgun rounds while the National Weather Service acquired 46,000 hollow point rounds." Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 30, 2014 12:51 AM (aDwsi) Really, if those global warming deniers start getting uppity, what're you gonna do?

Posted by: rickl at April 29, 2014 07:56 PM (sdi6R)

370 "We're seeing every government agency being weaponized, before our eyes."

The motto of the SWAT team from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration:

"You may have survived the crash, but you won't survive long."

Posted by: torquewrench at April 29, 2014 07:56 PM (noWW6)

371 oh and fuck spell check aparently....

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 07:57 PM (RHlt3)

372 "I have a question about the legality of an heirloom rifle."

So, if you don't mind giving details, where do you live and what are the particulars of the rifle in question? The "where" being key.

Because some jurisdictions will drop a hard rain of warm shit on you pretty much no matter what the weapon is, and others could care less.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 29, 2014 07:59 PM (noWW6)

373 366 >> It sort of looks like John Kerry...but Kerry is rich enough to afford a clone of himself.
 
Look wheatie, do I mention bone marrow sucking night spiders what climb into your bed and drain you while you are sleeping? Do I?
 
Keep your nightmares to yourself.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2014 08:00 PM (wNF3N)

374 "Stuff like this makes me suspect that Common Core is just a re-packaging (so schools buy new textbooks again and somebody'd cousin makes a fortune) of the wretched stuff that's been going on for decades."

Jeb Bush: great big Common Core cheerleader.

Neil Bush: owns an educational media company producing Common Core crap.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 29, 2014 08:01 PM (noWW6)

375 350 Weather Service too, I think.

Posted by: BignJames


Our mission statement: GAIA UBER ALLES!!!!

Posted by: National Weather Service SS at April 29, 2014 08:02 PM (15w2J)

376 Why not just wrap a length of rope around a tree or log of known diameter, then measure the length of the rope, divide that by the diameter of the tree to get pi? Or are there no rulers in the future?

Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 29, 2014 08:03 PM (MKpBT)

377 So is every 'ette afraid of spiders? Personally, i find them fascinating. (Well, the web weavers.) If i see them attached to the house I will go out every night and watch their progression. The indoor ones I'll squash.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 08:04 PM (QeH9j)

378 Don't these absurd requests for ammo have to originate in the House?

Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 08:04 PM (JgC5a)

379

374...Keep your nightmares to yourself.

 

Uh oh. Sorry Gnuey.


 

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 08:04 PM (emg5o)

380 Or are there no rulers in the future? Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 30, 2014 01:03 AM (MKpBT) or books? or memory's 3.14.....

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 08:04 PM (RHlt3)

381 The chilling thing is that we are *already* living in several of these novels I was hoping the future would be like SolarBabies and the Horde could be the Slapshot team of the moron nation

Posted by: ginaswo at April 29, 2014 08:06 PM (VGpgb)

382 379 Don't these absurd requests for ammo have to originate in the House? Posted by: navybrat at April 30, 2014 01:04 AM (JgC5a) Hide posts from (JgC5a)


It's metastasized.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 08:07 PM (T1005)

383 378 So is every 'ette afraid of spiders? Personally, i find them fascinating. (Well, the web weavers.) If i see them attached to the house I will go out every night and watch their progression. The indoor ones I'll squash. Posted by: RWC at April 30, 2014 01:04 AM (QeH9j) If they're outside I'm fine with that. I keep peanut butter or mayonnaise jars to trap and release the ones I find inside. I also keep flyswatters in every room. Those are for the centipedes.

Posted by: rickl at April 29, 2014 08:07 PM (sdi6R)

384 You don't need the military. My new Civilian Defense Force will replace it. They will answer to ME!! Feel safe now??

Posted by: Obama's Civilian Defence Force at April 29, 2014 08:07 PM (15w2J)

385

378 So is every 'ette afraid of spiders?

 

I'm not, RWC.

 

Some of them are kinda cool, actually...like the zig-zag web makers.

 

I've had to learn which ones are deadly, though.

I am merciless with Black Widows and Brown Recluses. 

Those fuckers have to die. 

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 08:08 PM (emg5o)

386 They'll have to pry Pi from my cold dead fingers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2014 08:08 PM (aDwsi)

387 Even the friggin BLM has now got SWAT teams and mercs. Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2014 12:30 AM (emg5o) fuck man! everyone knows the Dept of Ed. SWAT team kicks the BLM SWAT teams ass google it Posted by: Zip74 at April 30, 2014 12:33 AM (RHlt3) ----------- Heh. Well the IRS's SWAT team can probably kick anybody's ass...and follow it up witha colonoscopy afterward. Posted by: wheatie ---------------------------- They're all piker pussies. Wait until you rub up against the Bureau of Labor Statistics SWAT guys. Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 30, 2014 12:41 AM (aDwsi) ------------------------ All I know is... if the Library of Congress SWAT Team tells you to shush, you SHUSH!

Posted by: malclave at April 29, 2014 08:09 PM (OCRaO)

388 They'll have to pry Pi from my cold dead fingers. Posted by: Mike Hammer ----------------- Wait a minute..., *that's* why they're buying the ammo.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2014 08:09 PM (aDwsi)

389 Kerry's chin wags often become cheeky over bloated foie gras.

Posted by: Gotham by Gasbag at April 29, 2014 08:09 PM (wu/TK)

390 So The JEF has 33 months left in office. Anyone want to forcast some of his future failures or what will land him in Bill Clinton-Lewinskiville?

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 08:10 PM (RHlt3)

391 Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2014 01:08 AM (emg5o) If I see a Brown Recluse the whole neighborhood would burn. Don't care if the internet pics are accurate, but that bite looks pure evil.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 08:10 PM (QeH9j)

392 Anyone want to forcast some of his future failures or what will land him in Bill Clinton-Lewinskiville? Posted by: Zip --------------- He will be lauded. Schools, buildings, and ships named in his honor.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2014 08:11 PM (aDwsi)

393

375...Neil Bush: owns an educational media company producing Common Core crap.

 

Posted by: torquewrench at April 30, 2014 01:01 AM (noWW6)

 

---------

 

Fuuuck. Are you kidding me?

 

No more Bushes, man. Not no...but Hell No.

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 08:11 PM (emg5o)

394

391 So The JEF has 33 months left in office.


Thats cute you think that. Fundemental Transformation, Yoh!!

Posted by: O'Fascist at April 29, 2014 08:11 PM (15w2J)

395 Posted by: Zip74 at April 30, 2014 01:10 AM (RHlt3) Do you mean Impeachmentland? Not going to happen.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 08:11 PM (QeH9j)

396 377 >> Why not just wrap a length of rope around a tree or log of known diameter, then measure the length of the rope, divide that by the diameter of the tree to get pi? Or are there no rulers in the future?
 
Dear Mr. Muldoon,
 
Quit trying to mess up a perfectly valid reason for shooting the shit out of a target in order to derive a cosmological constant.
 
What are you, some kind of a gun control freak?

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2014 08:12 PM (wNF3N)

397 we've already "achieved" Orwell, Huxley and Idiocracy.  We're headed toward Logan's Run and Soylent Green by way of Vonnegut's Harrison Bergeron.

Posted by: barbarausa at April 29, 2014 08:12 PM (WWeoI)

398

He will be lauded. Schools, buildings, and ships named in his honor.


Thats already happening.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 29, 2014 08:12 PM (15w2J)

399 Personally, i find them fascinating. The biggest orb-weaving spiders I ever saw was on the mid-north coast of NSW in Australia. I'm not normally squeamish about orb-weavers but those bastards were far and away bigger than anything I've ever seen in this neck of the woods here in the U.S. Those things made my skin crawl just a little bit.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 29, 2014 08:13 PM (jOKH1)

400 He will be lauded. ------------ Heh. Oh..., I thought you said "larded".

Posted by: Reggie Love at April 29, 2014 08:14 PM (aDwsi)

401 I'm out. Be well all.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 29, 2014 08:14 PM (ojnk6)

402 Do you mean Impeachmentland? Not going to happen. Posted by: RWC at April 30, 2014 01:11 AM (QeH9j) not talking about that-impeachment but he will step on the Mooch's dick eventually or Putins or Something. Everyone knows Obama is a p#ssy, someone will challenge that. Weakness is provacative, someone once said

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 08:14 PM (RHlt3)

403 Why not just wrap a length of rope around a tree or log of known diameter, then measure the length of the rope, divide that by the diameter of the tree to get pi? Or are there no rulers in the future? Posted by: S. Muldoon at April 30, 2014 01:03 AM (MKpBT) Straight edge and compass.

Posted by: The Ancient Greeks at April 29, 2014 08:15 PM (K1sEu)

404 Yep. Way late. G'night all.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at April 29, 2014 08:15 PM (aDwsi)

405 "Weakness is a provocation"

Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 08:15 PM (JgC5a)

406 Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 30, 2014 01:13 AM (jOKH1 Any species encountered 'down under' you get a pass. Does anything 'not' kill you down there. (Besides the ultra cute aussie gals.) And that's only of your nice.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 08:16 PM (QeH9j)

407 'Night Hammer.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 08:16 PM (QeH9j)

408 I don't get this Pi thing. It's 3.14159. Doesn't everyone have that memorized?

Posted by: Alana at April 29, 2014 08:16 PM (d7xEg)

409 'Night MWNP.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 08:17 PM (QeH9j)

410

Oh...and Funnel-Web Spiders are poisonous too.

 

They're mostly in wooded areas.

But they're on the rise in some places, like here.

 

They make very distinctive webs...shaped like a funnel or a tornado.

I found one of them under the eave of my house.

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 08:17 PM (emg5o)

411 409 I don't get this Pi thing. It's 3.14159. Doesn't everyone have that memorized?Posted by: Alana at April 30, 2014 01:16 AM (d7xEg)
Just push the pi button on your calculator.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2014 08:19 PM (XeVA7)

412 I grew up in PA and used to see those funnel shaped webs in the woods all the time. Didn't know the spiders that made them were poisonous.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 29, 2014 08:19 PM (15w2J)

413 Everyone knows Obama is a p#ssy, someone will challenge that. Weakness is provacative, someone once said Posted by: Zip74 at April 30, 2014 01:14 AM (RHlt3) Yeah, he'll be challenged. He'll ignore it. Media will cover for him. We have him for however long he wants. And I seriously believe that.

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 08:19 PM (QeH9j)

414 We have him for however long he wants. And I seriously believe that. Posted by: RWC at April 30, 2014 01:19 AM (QeH9j) Mooch is done after 8 I think. Should be sporting

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 08:21 PM (RHlt3)

415 I don't get this Pi thing. It's 3.14159. Doesn't everyone have that memorized? Posted by: Alana at April 30, 2014 01:16 AM (d7xEg) Musically: http://osakatruegenius.ytmnd.com/

Posted by: Το π καπέλο at April 29, 2014 08:21 PM (K1sEu)

416

413 I grew up in PA and used to see those funnel shaped webs in the woods all the time. Didn't know the spiders that made them were poisonous.

 

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 30, 2014 01:19 AM (15w2J)

 

----------

 

Yeah, I didn't know it either until recently.

They were warning people about them on the local news here.

 

And...they jump, too.

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 08:23 PM (emg5o)

417 I don't get this Pi thing. It's 3.14159. Doesn't everyone have that memorized?>>

I posted early on that point. But am pretty sure it's a fun method of teaching kids about Monte Carlo approximation. Used in all kinds of different science.

http://ion.asu.edu/depth/depth2.htm

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 08:24 PM (5bbdJ)

418 anyone here home school? any tips? seriously thinking about it

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 08:26 PM (RHlt3)

419 Posted by: Puddleglum at April 30, 2014 01:19 AM (15w2J) All spiders are venomous.....jus' sayin'.

Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2014 08:28 PM (j7iSn)

420 Posted by: The Hickster hey are threaded rifle barrels legal in MN. I may be putting on a rifle class in MN this summer and the rifle I want to take has a threaded barrel, it is a bolt gun.

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 08:29 PM (RHlt3)

421 Posted by: Zip74 at April 30, 2014 01:29 AM (RHlt3) Check w/ATF.

Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2014 08:30 PM (j7iSn)

422 I just love these "is it legal" posts. Nothing is legal, you broke sixteen laws before lunch today, OK? No, really, you did.

Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 08:32 PM (JgC5a)

423 Thanks, Hickster. Didn't know about all that.

Posted by: Alana at April 29, 2014 08:32 PM (d7xEg)

424 419 anyone here home school?

any tips?


seriously thinking about it Posted by: Zip74 at April 30, 2014 01:26 AM (RHlt3) Hide posts from (RHlt3)



The godkids went Waldorf and one group of their cousins did homeschooling and both turned out pretty well. The other group of their cousins went to public schools.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 08:33 PM (T1005)

425 423 I just love these "is it legal" posts.

Nothing is legal, you broke sixteen laws before lunch today, OK? No, really, you did. Posted by: navybrat at April 30, 2014 01:32 AM (JgC5a) Hide posts from (JgC5a)


Yeah, but only a couple were Federal felonies -- http://tinyurl.com/absy6jz

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 08:34 PM (T1005)

426 423 I just love these "is it legal" posts. Nothing is legal, you broke sixteen laws before lunch today, OK? No, really, you did. Posted by: navybrat at April 30, 2014 01:32 AM (JgC5a) I love your optimism 16 before breakfast. G'night all. Almost May and chilly as hell here. Burn MOAR oil!

Posted by: RWC at April 29, 2014 08:35 PM (QeH9j)

427

64K rounds is not a lot, especially spread nationwide.

I HOPE they realize that too, for everybody's sake

Posted by: MAx at April 29, 2014 08:37 PM (b7yum)

428 Should have put a smiley face on last post. I am not particularly pessimistic, just observant.

Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 08:37 PM (JgC5a)

429 425 sippicancottage.com

Posted by: MAx at April 29, 2014 08:38 PM (b7yum)

430 anyone here home school? any tips? seriously thinking about it Posted by: Zip74 at April 30, 2014 01:26 AM (RHlt3) Check with homeschooling groups in your state. They will show you what red tape you need to clear and also point you out to some good teaching materials. Also, go to your local used book stores to see if they have any older teaching books, as they tend to be quite good for many of the basics.

Posted by: The Edukashinul Hat at April 29, 2014 08:39 PM (K1sEu)

431 hey are threaded rifle barrels legal in MN. >>

A quick search of suppressed weapons laws with cntrl F finds no hits on thread. Can't think of another reason they would care about threaded barrels.

But Again not a lawyer so talk to an FFL like Bill's gun shop they deal in full auto and likely know all the laws.

https://www.billsgs.com/

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 08:41 PM (5bbdJ)

432 Posted by: MAx at April 30, 2014 01:37 AM (b7yum) I always remind myself of that when I can't find ammo.

Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2014 08:42 PM (j7iSn)

433 Wouldn't it be easier to calculate pi by using the volume of a cylinder? Or by using a piece of string to measure the circumference of a small circle? T

Posted by: eman at April 29, 2014 08:43 PM (MQEz6)

434 Posted by: The Hickster thanks

Posted by: Zip74 at April 29, 2014 08:44 PM (RHlt3)

435 Just thought I'd throw in a free T in case anyone needed one.

Posted by: eman at April 29, 2014 08:44 PM (MQEz6)

436 Who can choose just one Dystopia, really? They're just like potato chips.

Posted by: theCork at April 29, 2014 08:45 PM (I3ZHb)

437 Happy-ish Tuesday Night ... Busy Day. Created a flyer & had the owner proof it and managed to lighten a logo into a watermark via 1990-ish AppleWorks ... Tomorrow is another day ...

Posted by: Adriane... at April 29, 2014 08:45 PM (qoKTg)

438 Wouldn't it be easier to calculate pi by using the volume of a cylinder? Pi is 180 degrees. Next question. Just kidding, I like the circumference method.

Posted by: t-bird at April 29, 2014 08:45 PM (FcR7P)

439 Or you can just remember the value of pi to a reasonable number of digits, and teach the magical number to your children in an oral tradition. Here's what I go with: 3.1415926535.

Posted by: CQD at April 29, 2014 08:51 PM (tcvYF)

440 Pi is 180 degrees. Next question. Just kidding, I like the circumference method. Posted by: t-bird at April 30, 2014 01:45 AM (FcR7P) Don't make me break out the arcsine functions!

Posted by: The Triginometrical Hat at April 29, 2014 08:52 PM (K1sEu)

441 Could you just bake some pi?

Posted by: Adriane... at April 29, 2014 08:53 PM (qoKTg)

442 Posted by: Zip74 at April 30, 2014 01:44 AM (RHlt3)>>

This would indicate threaded barrels are legal in MN.
http://tinyurl.com/mqpffha

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 08:53 PM (5bbdJ)

443 Pi equals 3 for very wobbly values of 3 ...

Posted by: Adriane... at April 29, 2014 08:54 PM (qoKTg)

444 Is pi considered an "irrational number"?

Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 08:56 PM (JgC5a)

445 Hey Bign good to see ya again- try Freedom Munitions

Posted by: MAx at April 29, 2014 08:57 PM (b7yum)

446 In a dystopian nightmare the ability to make Pie will be more important than calculations using Pi.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 08:57 PM (5bbdJ)

447 Posted by: MAx at April 30, 2014 01:57 AM (b7yum) I was jes kiddin'....only thing I can't find in bulk...@ a decent price is .22lr.

Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2014 09:04 PM (j7iSn)

448 Irrational numbers cannot be expressed as a fraction.

Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 09:04 PM (JgC5a)

449 Oh...and Funnel-Web Spiders arepoisonous too. Lucky me, never saw one of those while I was on vacation down there. I did play hide-and-seek with a few skinks that inhabited a planter in the parking lot of the motel I was staying at...

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 29, 2014 09:06 PM (jOKH1)

450 Is pi considered an "irrational number"? Hey! Let's have wymens half baking you every day and see if you stay rational!!!

Posted by: 3.14159 at April 29, 2014 09:07 PM (qoKTg)

451 440 Or you can just remember the value of pi to a reasonable number of digits, and teach the magical number to your children in an oral tradition. Here's what I go with: 3.1415926535. Posted by: CQD at April 30, 2014 01:51 AM (tcvYF) Hide posts from (tcvYF)



It should be noted that this value, with eleven significant digits, is accurate to within one ten-billionth (I, personally, only carry 9 digits). To put this in perspective, the moon is spiraling outward from the earth by about one ten-billionth of its average distance each year.....yet nobody had noticed this from Australopithicus to about 1990.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 09:07 PM (T1005)

452 Is pi considered an "irrational number"? Posted by: navybrat at April 30, 2014 01:56 AM (JgC5a) Not compared to the current administration…

Posted by: The Triginometrical Hat at April 29, 2014 09:08 PM (K1sEu)

453 Which dystopia are we headed towards? I say "The Eye of the Beholder," the Twilight Zone episode where the beautiful girl is scheduled to have surgery to make her look as grotesque as everyone else, because to them, she is ugly. Of course, in my version, it's not physical beauty, it's sanity. And it's not a dystopian future -- we're already there. Now, everybody line up for your lobotomies. This'll cure your racist and cisgendered thoughts.

Posted by: zombie at April 29, 2014 09:09 PM (mizYg)

454 445 Is pi considered an "irrational number"? Posted by: navybrat at April 30, 2014 01:56 AM (JgC5a) Hide posts from (JgC5a)


Pi is the "poster child" of irrational numbers, beating out "e" -- the base for natural logarithms -- and the square root of 2.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 09:10 PM (T1005)

455 Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2014 02:07 AM (T1005) Well, I did notice...but, I kept it to myself.

Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2014 09:10 PM (j7iSn)

456 34 Maet well said. It startles me how easily people advocate for taking away offensive peoples property, speech or livelihoods. --- About 40% of Americans probably find every commenter here offensive, and would punish us to the fullest extent possible, just like the NBA is doing to that guy. If Sterling has no practical freedom of speech or thought, none of us do.

Posted by: whoever at April 29, 2014 09:11 PM (pjMym)

457 Here is the π song by "Hard 'n Phirm" http://tinyurl.com/ltremkt

Posted by: The Irrational Hat at April 29, 2014 09:11 PM (K1sEu)

458 Just kidding, I like the circumference method. Posted by: t-bird Don't be playing with surgical leftovers.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 29, 2014 09:11 PM (ujux6)

459 Pi is the "poster child" of irrational numbers, beating out "e" -- the base for natural logarithms -- and the square root of 2. Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2014 02:10 AM (T1005) *ahem* Forgetting someone?

Posted by: The Golden Ratio at April 29, 2014 09:12 PM (K1sEu)

460 Is pi related to the Fibonacci series?

Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 09:13 PM (JgC5a)

461 Is pi related to the Fibonacci series? Posted by: navybrat at April 30, 2014 02:13 AM (JgC5a) Didn't Brian Dennehy play the leas in the Fibonacci series of TV movies?

Posted by: Phi at April 29, 2014 09:15 PM (K1sEu)

462 Pi, by the way, is not only not irrational, it's actually the only number that is true, pure, irrevocable and eternal, and which can be found in nature. Even whole integers, such a s 1, 2, 3 and so forth, are essentially convenient illusions with no physical correlation. If time, mass and space are infinitely divisible (something we have not yet determined either way), then the integrity of integers is thrown into doubt. But pi, being a ratio, especially a ratio of the one fundamental "shape," does not change and remains true, whatever the ultimate nature of time, mass and space. Pi is real. Everything else is a mental construct.

Posted by: zombie at April 29, 2014 09:16 PM (mizYg)

463 I couldn't hear it over that Telecaster.

Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 09:17 PM (JgC5a)

464 Fibonacci? I thought that was cheese.

Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2014 09:17 PM (j7iSn)

465 We need a new dystopian novel....where everything that is good, right, and noble can still be accessed, but drops in Google page rankings enough to shift out of the top 3 search results.....then the top 5 results.....then the top 10 results....then the first page.....then the second page....then the third page....


And then your Kindle version of "The Federalist Papers" starts reading differently from what you recall. You try Googling a phrase from your remembered version, and it's Google has a link....but it's old....and there's a ton of other links that talk about how it was rejected.


You figure you could visit a bookstore and pick up an authoritative version in "reference", but when you get there, the mall has replaced it with a discount shoe outlet.
 

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 09:19 PM (T1005)

466 "Fibonacci? I just met her!" (Punchline to a possible future joke I haven't yet formulated.)

Posted by: zombie at April 29, 2014 09:19 PM (mizYg)

467 Thank you, zombie! I have heard both arguments. a)pi is irrational b)pi is rational

Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 09:19 PM (JgC5a)

468 466 We need a new dystopian novel....where everything that is good, right, and noble can still be accessed, but drops in Google page rankings enough to shift out of the top 3 search results.....then the top 5 results.....then the top 10 results.... [...] You figure you could visit a bookstore and pick up an authoritative version in "reference", but when you get there, the mall has replaced it with a discount shoe outlet. Posted by: cthulhu That all happened to me last week already. You're gonna need a bigger dystopia.

Posted by: zombie at April 29, 2014 09:22 PM (mizYg)

469 460 Pi is the "poster child" of irrational numbers, beating out "e" -- the base for natural logarithms -- and the square root of 2.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2014 02:10 AM (T1005)


*ahem*

Forgetting someone? Posted by: The Golden Ratio at April 30, 2014 02:12 AM (K1sEu) Hide posts from (K1sEu)


It's "win, place, show, and everybody else", dude.

Posted by: Square Root of 2 at April 29, 2014 09:22 PM (T1005)

470 463 Pi, by the way, is not only not irrational, it's actually the only number that is true, pure, irrevocable and eternal, and which can be found in nature.

Even whole integers, such a s 1, 2, 3 and so forth, are essentially convenient illusions with no physical correlation. If time, mass and space are infinitely divisible (something we have not yet determined either way), then the integrity of integers is thrown into doubt.

But pi, being a ratio, especially a ratio of the one fundamental "shape," does not change and remains true, whatever the ultimate nature of time, mass and space.

Pi is real. Everything else is a mental construct. Posted by: zombie at April 30, 2014 02:16 AM (mizYg) Hide posts from (mizYg)



Except in mathematics, where it's vice-versa.



Hey, zombie -- how'd things go with the pseudo-Italian from last night?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 09:24 PM (T1005)

471 468 Thank you, zombie! I have heard both arguments. a)pi is irrational b)pi is rational Posted by: navybrat Well, I was just riffing, sort of. In modern mathematical parlance, pi is most definitely "irrational," meaning it cannot be expressed as a fraction. In my comment, I was purposely taking the concept of "irrational" more literally, to point out that although pi is "irrational" in technical math lingo, it is ultimately "rational" outside the realm of language and jargon.

Posted by: zombie at April 29, 2014 09:26 PM (mizYg)

472 Hey, zombie -- how'd things go with the pseudo-Italian from last night? Posted by: cthulhu I emailed my findings (i.e. we were right) to the person, and did not hear back. I suspect I never will hear back. She wants her illiterate name, come what may. I predict failure, sadly.

Posted by: zombie at April 29, 2014 09:28 PM (mizYg)

473 I think pi should be in a class all by itself. Not with all the other irrationals.

Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 09:29 PM (JgC5a)

474 469 466 We need a new dystopian novel....where everything that is good, right, and noble can still be accessed, but drops in Google page rankings enough to shift out of the top 3 search results.....then the top 5 results.....then the top 10 results....
[...]
You figure you could visit a bookstore and pick up an authoritative version in "reference", but when you get there, the mall has replaced it with a discount shoe outlet.

Posted by: cthulhu


That all happened to me last week already.

You're gonna need a bigger dystopia. Posted by: zombie at April 30, 2014 02:22 AM (mizYg) Hide posts from (mizYg)



What was the subject, if I may ask?



And, BTW, as a general comment --



Dystopias.


You want: Brave New World with wild sex and soma to ease the pain.


You'd accept: Idiocracy, 'cause we're more than halfway there already, and Brawndo.


You'll get: Memories in the Mist -- how the digital world and the cloud destroy your free will.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 09:31 PM (T1005)

475 It's a nice choice of post-apocalyptic futures, but where's "Brazil"?  That would have been my choice.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at April 29, 2014 09:31 PM (WtVhX)

476 "A Boy And His Dog" Did that make the list?

Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 09:33 PM (JgC5a)

477 476 It's a nice choice of post-apocalyptic futures, but where's "Brazil"? That would have been my choice.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at April 30, 2014 02:31 AM (WtVhX) Hide posts from (WtVhX)


I tossed it up there after someone hauled in "A Boy and his Dog" (which I read many years before I saw. In fact, I was probably about 13 when I read the Harlan Ellison story.)

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 09:34 PM (T1005)

478 Pi, by the way, is not only not irrational, it's actually the only number that is true, pure, irrevocable and eternal, and which can be found in nature. Even whole integers, such a s 1, 2, 3 and so forth, are essentially convenient illusions with no physical correlation. If time, mass and space are infinitely divisible (something we have not yet determined either way), then the integrity of integers is thrown into doubt. But pi, being a ratio, especially a ratio of the one fundamental "shape," does not change and remains true, whatever the ultimate nature of time, mass and space. Pi is real. Everything else is a mental construct. Posted by: zombie at April 30, 2014 02:16 AM (mizYg) Groovy! *Lites up the kronic* Wait, but both Phi and e are both integral in nature! Duuuuuuude!

Posted by: Teh Kronik Hat at April 29, 2014 09:35 PM (K1sEu)

479 477 "A Boy And His Dog"
Did that make the list? Posted by: navybrat at April 30, 2014 02:33 AM (JgC5a) Hide posts from (JgC5a)



The nature of commenting on this blog is a never-ending source of amusement.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 09:35 PM (T1005)

480 "Buffalo '66"?

Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 09:36 PM (JgC5a)

481 Due to busy circumstances, just noticed Paul's "Gosh darn, it's just too hard to repeal Obamacare."

Damn it!  I guarantee that it would not be hard to repeal on ONE condition:

1.  Make the Legislative branch of our government use Obamacare exclusively, no subsidies.

Easy.

The bill to do that would have enormous approval from everyone in the U.S. (except the legislative branch).  Kick out every bastard who votes against it.

Obamacare repealed immediately.  Or sooner.

Is anyone suing that those who don't have to be on Obamacare are being treated differently than the rest of us?

If one person is denied the same treatment for the same problem, wouldn't that also be basis for a suit?  When can we get the ball rolling?

Posted by: HappyGoLucky at April 29, 2014 09:36 PM (+fqvX)

482 "1. Make the Legislative branch of our government use Obamacare exclusively, no subsidies." They exempted themselves. This was not happenstance.

Posted by: navybrat at April 29, 2014 09:40 PM (JgC5a)

483 482 Due to busy circumstances, just noticed Paul's "Gosh darn, it's just too hard to repeal Obamacare."

Damn it! I guarantee that it would not be hard to repeal on ONE condition:

1. Make the Legislative branch of our government use Obamacare exclusively, no subsidies.

Easy.

The bill to do that would have enormous approval from everyone in the U.S. (except the legislative branch). Kick out every bastard who votes against it.

Obamacare repealed immediately. Or sooner.

Is anyone suing that those who don't have to be on Obamacare are being treated differently than the rest of us?

If one person is denied the same treatment for the same problem, wouldn't that also be basis for a suit? When can we get the ball rolling?
Posted by: HappyGoLucky at April 30, 2014 02:36 AM (+fqvX) Hide posts from (+fqvX)



The problem with Obamacare is that continues a disconnect from reality that has had bipartisan support for decades. Obamacare, however, is the "reductio ad absurdum" of that disconnect.


The underlying problem is that most people would give anything they have, anything they can hypothecate, everything they can steal or seize, and anything they can say or do.....for one more breath. One more squeeze of a loved one's hand; one more appeal to the Almighty; one more lunge for the brass ring.


And this is obviously a bad thing -- because then institutions would spring up to promise this last breath at such great price.....but ultimately fail to deliver. So, it was determined that there should be an intermediary who would seal a bargain for all those last breaths and get best efforts while only paying so much. So we got health insurance and Medicare.


Which have managed to completely disassociate cost and results from the business of healthcare. And when you have a business without costs and results......



Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 09:50 PM (T1005)

484 Even whole integers, such a s 1, 2, 3 and so forth, are essentially convenient illusions with no physical correlation. Posted by: zombie If so, a quantum, the basis for quantum physics is automatically false. No? If there is no discrete number in nature, how can there be a discrete quantity of interaction?

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 29, 2014 10:02 PM (ujux6)

485 Oklahoma inmate dies after execution is botched. He's still dead though? They did something right.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2014 10:06 PM (LJ7Ze)

486 I keep really hoping for a backlash that goes something like: "The Federal Department of Education was established in 1979, and has since spent billions of dollars and issued countless regulations, with no detectible improvement to education. It should also be noted that the word 'education' is nowhere to be found in Article 1, section 8 of the US Constitution among the enumerated powers of the Government. Accordingly, the 28th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States shall read: 'Congress shall make no law regarding education, and neither shall the executive create or administer regulations regarding such.....and any official or legislator attempting same should be subject to removal from office and forfeiture of any government benefit (including, without limit, salary, deferred compensation, pension, healthcare, or deferred benefits) upon suit by any citizen or entity.' and this amendment is to be effective immediately upon ratification."

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 10:07 PM (T1005)

487 Bronze plans for the Parliament of Whores.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2014 10:09 PM (LJ7Ze)

488 Pie are round.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2014 10:10 PM (LJ7Ze)

489 Rant somewhat toned down -- we need to be eliminating entire categories of these assholes, not just pussyfooting around about how big their SWAT team can be.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 10:12 PM (T1005)

490 OK needs an Old Sparky.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2014 10:12 PM (LJ7Ze)

491 How big is the NEA's Armored Division?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2014 10:14 PM (LJ7Ze)

492

Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2014 03:12 AM (T1005)

 

i'm afraid we're just like the pi researchers in the post.

 

using everyday tools, convoluted/unnecessary methods, achieving an approximation, yet...forgetting the real goal was to measure a specific distance for a specific purpose.

Posted by: dDan at April 29, 2014 10:20 PM (hwYmz)

493 485 Even whole integers, such a s 1, 2, 3 and so forth, are essentially convenient illusions with no physical correlation. Posted by: zombie If so, a quantum, the basis for quantum physics is automatically false. No? If there is no discrete number in nature, how can there be a discrete quantity of interaction? Posted by: weft cut-loop Yes, that was my point: we do not know that quantum physics is the ultimate end-point of scientific investigation. I suspect it is not. I suspect we will eventually keep dividing and get smaller and smaller entities. And I suspect that we will never be able to prove that we've gotten to the end, the ultimate quanta, never reach the final vindication of a-tom theory proposed by the Greeks (i.e. that there is something so small that it can not be cut in half - "a-tom" meaning uncuttable).

Posted by: zombie at April 29, 2014 10:22 PM (mizYg)

494 491 OK needs an Old Sparky. Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2014 03:12 AM (LJ7Ze) Hide posts from (LJ7Ze)



Seems to me that the fixation on methods is a total concession on whether it's a good idea. How 'bout "we serve as a 'finishing school' for Saudi headsman. We hood 'em, kneel 'em, and give the headsman some practice."


"That's cruel and unusual."


"OK, take the drugs we got -- or bolster Ahmed's resume."


I'll be nice. Any prisoner willing to take the ride at the ASPCA can elect to do that, instead.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 10:22 PM (T1005)

495 Why not a firing squad? Or an injection of 100% pure nicotine?

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2014 10:26 PM (LJ7Ze)

496 Amid the kerfuffles over Donald Sterling's ban from the NBA for life and Mozilla's firing of Brenden Eich some commenters have pointed out that it was perfectly legal for the organizations to fire/ban them so why the big whoop. Which is true - it was legal.



I am not sure banning Sterling was legal.  He is being deprived of his property.  Of course all sports franchises are exempt from normal laws.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 29, 2014 10:29 PM (T2V/1)

497 That botched execution? Close enough for government work.

Posted by: Meremortal. at April 29, 2014 10:30 PM (1Y+hH)

498 OK, we got down to 69, but it's 12:30 and I closed it up and hit the AC. Tomorrow's supposed to be warmer.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 10:32 PM (T1005)

499 The median income of Falls Church City, Va., is $121,250 dollars. In 2012, Falls Church City voted for Obama 70 percent to 30 percent.


My grandmother used to live in Falls Church. But that was before it became a government enclave.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 29, 2014 10:33 PM (T2V/1)

500 Night all. Here is a cover of Voivod's song "Missing Sequences" by Dahlia Seed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3d8INDO-60

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 29, 2014 10:34 PM (K1sEu)

501

486 Oklahoma inmate dies after execution is botched.

 

He's still dead though? They did something right.

 

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2014 03:06 AM (LJ7Ze)

 

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"Botched" is such a subjective word.

 

One person's 'botched is another person's idea of Success!

 

The guy was twitching and still had a pulse.

So they rushed him to a hospital...why, I have no clue...but they rushed the dude to a hospital where he lingered for a bit and then croaked.

 

Pronounced dead of a 'heart attack'.

Now this is the part that gets me...a heart attack?

 

Did they forget about the 3-drug cocktail that was just pumped into the guy?

So I guess he didn't die by 'lethal injection'...he died of natural causes.

Okay.

 

Anyway, it was a success...using the ObamaCare definition of 'success'.

 

 

 

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 10:35 PM (emg5o)

502 496 Why not a firing squad? Or an injection of 100% pure nicotine? Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2014 03:26 AM (LJ7Ze) Hide posts from (LJ7Ze)



Those of us living in the real world understand that life, itself, is the precious rarity -- where death....which is the inevitable outcome.....is all to common, easy, cheap, and goes so far as to be the default.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 10:36 PM (T1005)

503

That particular 3-drug cocktail had never been tested on a human before.

 

So now they know how well it works.

 

It was supposed to be a Dual Execution, with another guy after that one.

The second guy received a Stay.

 

So he gets to contemplate how it will go for him

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 10:41 PM (emg5o)

504 A potential boycott of Tuesday night's NBA playoff games by players was averted after the NBA threw the book at Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling, banning him for life, fining him $2.5 million and raising the possibility of a forced sale of the team over racist remarks he made to an ex-girlfriend that surfaced on a tape recording over the weekend.



If he is banned for life why should he pay a fine?  He should tell them to stuff it.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 29, 2014 10:41 PM (T2V/1)

505 They should shut down the NBA for forty years in protest.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2014 10:44 PM (LJ7Ze)

506 Double header execution? They need an electric bench.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2014 10:45 PM (LJ7Ze)

507 Because something being legal really tells us nothing about whether it is moral, good for society, or even just: It's just not forbidden by law. In fact many of the recent scandals noted here - IRS targeting of conservative groups, the Wisconsin John Doe witch hunts, A&E's banning of Phil Robertson, and the selective enforcement (Dinesh D'Souza) and non-enforcement (David Gregory) of laws among others - are probably all legal in the sense that that the acts per se don't violate any laws.


Someone posted two federal laws that were broken by the IRS targeting of conservatives.  Both were felonies. One can not use a government agency for personal vendettas.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at April 29, 2014 10:47 PM (T2V/1)

508

503...Those of us living in the real world understand that life, itself, is the precious rarity -- where death....which is the inevitable outcome.....is all to common, easy, cheap, and goes so far as to be the default.

 


Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2014 03:36 AM (T1005) 

 

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I agree, cthulhu.

 

These guys had both taken lives...the lives of young women after they'd raped them.

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 10:48 PM (emg5o)

509 100 people get food poisoning -- at food safety summit...

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2014 10:48 PM (LJ7Ze)

510

507 Double header execution? They need an electric bench.

 

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2014 03:45 AM (LJ7Ze) 

 

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A couple of nooses would be more eco-friendly.

Cheaper too!

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 10:50 PM (emg5o)

511 And I suspect that we will never be able to prove that we've gotten to the end, the ultimate quanta, never reach the final vindication of a-tom theory proposed by the Greeks Posted by: zombie Aren't structure and quanta two separate concepts? * IE few to no physicists rejects a limit on structure ('things' to be divided) but they usually accept a limit on interaction of 'things' ? *all asked in recognition of my own complete ignorance of the math involved.

Posted by: weft cut-loop [/i] [/b] at April 29, 2014 10:55 PM (ujux6)

512 Last night, I mentioned that a dad and his kids had gone missing at a park where the fiancee and I had just been.....and now I've got some good news -- http://tinyurl.com/kzdrm3r

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 11:09 PM (T1005)

513 Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2014 04:09 AM (T1005) I was down there a couple months ago.....half the boardwalk was flooded then.

Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2014 11:17 PM (j7iSn)

514 514 Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2014 04:09 AM (T1005)

I was down there a couple months ago.....half the boardwalk was flooded then. Posted by: BignJames at April 30, 2014 04:17 AM (j7iSn) Hide posts from (j7iSn)


We had to dodge around damaged boardwalk areas.....but at least we didn't end up spending a couple of extra days in the park and getting rescued.


Just glad everyone's ok.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 11:22 PM (T1005)

515

513 Last night, I mentioned that a dad and his kids had gone missing at a park where the fiancee and I had just been.....and now I've got some good news -- http://tinyurl.com/kzdrm3r
 

Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2014 04:09 AM (T1005) 

 

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Glad they're okay.

 

Kind of a weird story though...guy takes his two young kids out in the woods, with no gear and no food?

Not even any jackets...just t-shirts and shorts.

And gets lost for 2 days? 

 

None of that makes any sense to me.

 

Posted by: wheatie at April 29, 2014 11:23 PM (emg5o)

516 Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2014 04:22 AM (T1005) Gators come up-river from the lake in summer....but no sane person should be there then because of the mosquitoes.

Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2014 11:26 PM (j7iSn)

517 If you have hooked up with a group where no one can remember Pi from memory (or didn't pass it on to future generations). Your group is not smart enough to come up with this solution.

Posted by: The Hickster at April 29, 2014 10:56 PM (5bbdJ)



^^^^this^^^^Some things are so fundamental that rote learning is the only way to go.      Pi is pi.  Full stop.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 29, 2014 11:26 PM (TKUw7)

518 516 513 Last night, I mentioned that a dad and his kids had gone missing at a park where the fiancee and I had just been.....and now I've got some good news -- http://tinyurl.com/kzdrm3r
Posted by: cthulhu at April 30, 2014 04:09 AM (T1005)

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Glad they're okay.

Kind of a weird story though...guy takes his two young kids out in the woods, with no gear and no food?
Not even any jackets...just t-shirts and shorts.
And gets lost for 2 days?

None of that makes any sense to me.
Posted by: wheatie at April 30, 2014 04:23 AM (emg5o) Hide posts from (emg5o)



It's all about trail maintenance. The fiancee and I regularly hike a section of Sanborn County Park that is on the maps as "unmaintained service road" -- but we call it the "Chainsaw Trail", 'cause it really needs one. IIRC, there are 22 "go over" obstacles, six "duck under" obstacles, and three "shimmy around" obstacles. And yet, it's more of a trail than a section of the "San Andreas Trail" that doesn't follow a fire road -- we took the (ugly) fire road down for years before we realized there was an alternative.


There's plenty of room in Congaree to get lost.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 11:32 PM (T1005)

519 ....and I'm out. I'm hoping to have lunch with a moron tomorrow,

Posted by: cthulhu at April 29, 2014 11:37 PM (T1005)

520 So now they know how well it works. --- So in his death he proved his civil case. /?

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at April 30, 2014 12:10 AM (7mQyC)

521 "He's still dead though? They did something right. Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2014 03:06 AM (LJ7Ze) " --- It just so happens that your friend here is only MOSTLY dead.

Posted by: Miracle Max at April 30, 2014 12:16 AM (7mQyC)

522 "Someone posted two federal laws that were broken by the IRS targeting of conservatives. Both were felonies. One can not use a government agency for personal vendettas.

Posted by: Vic"


When men are caught in the trap of non-objective law, when their work, future and livelihood are at the mercy of a bureaucrat’s whim, when they have no way of knowing what unknown “influence” will crack down on them for which unspecified offense, fear becomes their basic motive, if they remain in the industry at all—and compromise, conformity, staleness, dullness, the dismal grayness of the middle-of-the-road are all that can be expected of them. Independent thinking does not submit to bureaucratic edicts, originality does not follow “public policies,” integrity does not petition for a license, heroism is not fostered by fear, creative genius is not summoned forth at the point of a gun.

Non-objective law is the most effective weapon of human enslavement: its victims become its enforcers and enslave themselves.


--Ayn Rand

Posted by: Simon White-Thatch Potentloins at April 30, 2014 12:38 AM (NnjE8)

523 Everybody dies of heart failure. I'm sad to hear of that fellow suffering a while from the execution drugs. Justice should be sure & swift. The "liberals" who made that problem happen sure are cruel and insensitive. G'morning. Incident involving cats has me up a half-hour early. What's your excuse?

Posted by: mindful webworker - cat-a-laptic at April 30, 2014 01:40 AM (cK3Ih)

524 G'morning. Incident involving cats has me up a half-hour early. What's your excuse? Work, of course.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 30, 2014 01:47 AM (Hw3Gh)

525 anyone? anyone?

Posted by: mindful webworker - Buehler? at April 30, 2014 01:48 AM (cK3Ih)

526 Good morning Night Crew! "One can not use a government agency for personal vendettas." And yet, that is the case history of very government instituted by men. In our case in particular, no opposition party has raised holy hell and demanded accountability, other than to mouth some platitudes and hold some hearings.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 30, 2014 01:48 AM (60Vyp)

527 Morning, Bevel. Seen y' around, but can't recall that I've ever said howdy directly.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Buehler? at April 30, 2014 01:52 AM (cK3Ih)

528 Morning, Crochety. When the sweeping changes come, I want to be in broom supply.

Posted by: mindful webworker - wet-vac! at April 30, 2014 01:55 AM (cK3Ih)

529 morning thread!

Posted by: mindful webworker - herald at April 30, 2014 01:56 AM (cK3Ih)

530 "Laws and a legal system by themselves aren't a very good measure of whether a society is free or not." Which is why the 'doctrine' of the 'Rule of Law' is such crap. Always has been crap. When the law is whatever a few power players say it is - and then exempt themselves from the same laws that punish you, the Rule of Law is meaningless. When the 'Rule of Law' makes them rich, and makes you poor, the 'Rule of Law' is meaningless.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at April 30, 2014 05:07 AM (q6kaG)

531 Sterling's comments were inexcusable in a sport dominated by nonwhite players (including the team of which he is an owner), and I suspect they perceived a situation in which either he went or the entire team walked. Difficult, but I think they made the correct call.

Posted by: perturbed at April 30, 2014 05:48 AM (TXq4O)

532

I HATE BASKETBALL!!! Let them destroy it.

 

 

Posted by: burt at April 30, 2014 08:58 AM (1+kJ5)

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