November 28, 2015

Overnight Open Thread (28 Nov 2015)
— CDR M

Don't get this article confused with the AoS HQ barrel. What happens as decades pass in a whiskey barrel. Beef

Sweet. I see a lot of steaks in my future. Beef prices fall as fattened cattle go to market.

American Generosity

Shlomo Rechnitz has done more for vets than Obama (how's that VA fix coming as the VA spends millions promoting Obamacare). Businessman buys 400 soldiers meals during a layover in Ireland.

Icebreakers

Wait a damn minute. I thought the arctic was supposed to be ice free and with all of these super hot months evah this year, why the hell is the President seeing the need for icebreakers?

Everything Wrong With Star Wars

With Kevin Smith.

Understanding Military Strategy

Sad that the author on understanding military strategy only focuses on GOP candidates and no mention of the epic fails of President Ambiguous Pivot.

WTF Switzerland?

People having sex with horses is on the rise in Switzerland. I was hoping that it meant having sex with folks that look like Sarah Jessica Parker but sadly that wasn't the case. Does this mean there is a shortage of goats for the newly arrived "refugees"?

100 Years Of Cocktails

Europe

I think I'd rather root out the problem and stop it than learn to live with Islamist terror.

But if Europe enjoys a few months of relative calm then it will be back to business as usual for the political classes.

And their subjects will, for the most part, go along with it. The chances are that the next attack won't be on their country; and if it is, the chances are it won't be their city. And even if it is their city, the chances are it'll be someone else who's executed at a rock concert, or blown to bits in a restaurant, and not they or their loved ones.

That's just fine with Europe's political classes, and the continent's liberal-left establishment. They would prefer the public response to the next atrocity to be more vigils and more hashtags, rather than angry marches on the Élysée Palace, the Houses of Parliament or the Bundestag.

Size Matters Not

Magazine size has little effect on mass shootings.

Kleck identified and examined 88 mass shooting incidents in which more than six people were killed or wounded for the 20 year period from 1994 through 2013. He looked at incidents with more than six victims because six or fewer people could be shot with a traditional six-shot revolver with no large-capacity magazine needed. So he wanted to look at those events in which possession of large-capacity magazines would be most relevant.

Even with this restrictive definition of a mass shooting, Kleck found that large capacity magazines – defined as holding over 10 rounds - were used in only 21 of the 88 incidents (24%). So, in 76% of the incidents, a large-capacity magazine ban would have made no difference in any event.

The FBI

The FBI is starting to sound like the FBI that showed up in Die Hard. I'm sure if Sharyl Attkisson asks the Chinese for a copy of her lost FBI file, they can provide it.

Cat Video

Lions after eating their Thanksgiving meal.

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1 Yay, ONT! Welp, time for bed.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at November 28, 2015 04:53 PM (EHU9F)

2 Modern Educayshun The way things are going with the modern campus Red Guards, the insanity below seems almost... plausible. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=10435

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 28, 2015 04:57 PM (vBeA5)

3
Welp, time for bed.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik


Quitter.  

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...now older and senile at November 28, 2015 04:59 PM (+1T7c)

4 Oh in 2016, if the FBI doesn't have enough already on their plate, the FBI will start tackling animal cruelty cases.

No word if PETA will get a rectal probe.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 28, 2015 04:59 PM (QF8oJ)

5 Why does the man with the cat knapsack have a tiny little human head growing out of the side of his head?

Posted by: Grace Slick at November 28, 2015 04:59 PM (B1TZ/)

6 da cat don't look happy

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at November 28, 2015 05:00 PM (0O7c5)

7 This is adorable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np8V9xdRsP4

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at November 28, 2015 05:00 PM (oVJmc)

8 So it seems like drinks have gotten more complicated over the years.

Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 05:00 PM (sdi6R)

9 Everything Wrong With Star Wars Ooh, that's going to be a long one. I better go get some errands done first.

Posted by: t-bird at November 28, 2015 05:00 PM (9mTYi)

10 Speaking of standard capacity magazines: MA 2A morons remember to support Comm2a.org if you ever hope to see the Commonweath's unconstitutional AWB overturned.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at November 28, 2015 05:02 PM (A1Dcl)

11 A twenty minute video explaining everything that is wrong with Star Wars?  Well besides the womprats that never make an appearance ..  pass.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 28, 2015 05:02 PM (QF8oJ)

12 Hey all you 'rons and 'ettes! I hope you are all well fed, well shopped, and well rested for the next week! Our thanksgiving was very nice, with just hubby, me and the kids. And the dogs. And the cat. Most pleasant Thanksgiving we have had in a while. No one brought up leftist talking points, we laughed at each others jokes, and my cranberry sauce is still in the fridge, because I keep forgetting about it. I'm sure there is a Freudian explanation for that, but I don't think I want to know what it is.

Posted by: Moki at November 28, 2015 05:02 PM (7q2ch)

13 Happy Caturday! I managed to disarm a "social media propaganda bomb" without causing too much of a ruckus at dinner with friends. The generic non-political people are really absorbing the left's propaganda thoughtlessly. It's very annoying. They even kind of realize it's propaganda and absorb it anyway.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 05:03 PM (bLnSU)

14 So will the losers send death threats to Kevin Smith like they did to Katherine Timpf?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at November 28, 2015 05:03 PM (oVJmc)

15 2 Modern Educayshun The way things are going with the modern campus Red Guards, the insanity below seems almost... plausible. More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=10435 Posted by: The Political Hat at November 28, 2015 09:57 PM (vBeA5) I've seen that. Penelope is so $%&#ing hot.

Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 05:03 PM (sdi6R)

16 That's just fine with Europe's political classes, and the continent's liberal-left establishment. They would prefer the public response to the next atrocity to be more vigils and more hashtags And piano crooners on the street singing "Imagine."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 28, 2015 05:03 PM (FkBIv)

17 i'm going to say it...i don't get the fascination with star wars......at all....i saw the original when it came out in the theater....it was ok at best......the only part that was memorable was the bar scene......the other movies were long and boring.......there....i feel better.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at November 28, 2015 05:03 PM (0O7c5)

18 Well, I... um... er... Wow. In early on the ONT and I gotz nuthin'. Waiting for Dr Who to download. Speaking of nuthin'.

Posted by: mindful webworker - imaginatively at November 28, 2015 05:04 PM (ACs58)

19 Last pic. Is that Charlie Sheen's cat?

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 28, 2015 05:05 PM (B1TZ/)

20 Yo

Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2015 05:05 PM (t5zYU)

21 Uh, can't do it. Everyone's "bro" Kevin Smith is unbearable in this.

Posted by: t-bird at November 28, 2015 05:05 PM (9mTYi)

22 New Dr. Who episode....  well everything gets explained in the last 5 minutes and and I went 'meh' because Moffat once again twists things into a stupid pretzel that will remind you of oh...  how Anakin will bring balance to the Force.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 28, 2015 05:07 PM (QF8oJ)

23 Saturday night ONT woot woot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 28, 2015 05:09 PM (VROg+)

24 I gave up on Moffat. I had *just* enough patience to get through Capaldi's first season, and I have a *lot* of spare time.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 05:09 PM (bLnSU)

25 Caturday night ONT, but still sick as a dog....

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 28, 2015 05:09 PM (Wo9OY)

26 Hi all
workin' on putting together a website, ugh
Thanx for the caturday ONT
How is everyone tonite

Posted by: chemjeff at November 28, 2015 05:10 PM (uZNvH)

27 Merovign, I was using the episode as background noise as I worked on something.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 28, 2015 05:10 PM (QF8oJ)

28 Always two there are. A master and apprentice.

Lucas and Moffat.

Posted by: Yoda at November 28, 2015 05:10 PM (AJkxb)

29 LOVE the lions.

Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2015 05:10 PM (t5zYU)

30 The generic non-political people are really absorbing the left's propaganda thoughtlessly. It's very annoying.  ^^^this. And depressing. The mfm traps us all in the wet paper bag of liberalism, and most people are too stupid to fight their way out. Some even enjoy it.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 28, 2015 05:10 PM (B1TZ/)

31 Hola, amigoz en loz intertuboz!

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 05:12 PM (EzgxV)

32 g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 28, 2015 05:12 PM (4RlNs)

33 i'm going to say it...i don't get the fascination with star wars......at all....i saw the original when it came out in the theater....it was ok at best......the only part that was memorable was the bar scene......the other movies were long and boring.......there....i feel better..... Posted by: phoenixgirl --- Star Wars' appeal can be summed up in 4 words: Darth Vader's face mask. That's it.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 28, 2015 05:13 PM (B1TZ/)

34 And piano crooners on the street singing "Imagine." Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 28, 2015 10:03 PM (FkBIv) I despise that song. What a whinging, self indulgent braying of notes. Why anyone thinks that would be a comforting song is a mystery. That mess is depressing as hell.

Posted by: Moki at November 28, 2015 05:13 PM (7q2ch)

35 Were the lions fed Christians?

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 05:14 PM (xodPA)

36 The mfm traps us all in the wet paper bag of liberalism, and most people are too stupid to fight their way out. Some even enjoy it. So many potential 'Matrix' references here.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 28, 2015 05:14 PM (6FqZa)

37 CMP to sell 1911s? This might be worthwhile.

Posted by: blaster at November 28, 2015 05:14 PM (F1vO6)

38 Star Wars' appeal can be summed up in 4 words:
Darth Vader's face mask.

That's it.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 28, 2015 10:13 PM (B1TZ/)

thank you

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at November 28, 2015 05:14 PM (0O7c5)

39 4 Oh in 2016, if the FBI doesn't have enough already on their plate, the FBI will start tackling animal cruelty cases. No word if PETA will get a rectal probe. Posted by: Anna Puma at November 28, 2015 09:59 PM (QF8oJ) High capacity pets to be outlawed. Thanks for the chic,Kyle AP

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 05:14 PM (pahrJ)

40 "Lions after eating their Thanksgiving meal."

I wonder if they ever give them catnip?

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 28, 2015 05:14 PM (Wo9OY)

41 it seems that disney is finding a star wars tie-in with every conceivable product. must be the biggest promotional campaign ever.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 28, 2015 05:15 PM (WTSFk)

42 Fuck the Gaytors.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 05:15 PM (vsbNu)

43 When I hear that song I tend to imagine I'm hearing something good instead, like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n8rfFRvIH0

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 28, 2015 05:15 PM (6FqZa)

44 There was a group locally that was looking into cutting down wine casks into narrower barrels for aging whiskey and brandy faster.  The idea was that a barrel that was just as long but smaller around would have more surface area for liquor to age on.

No idea how that worked out.

And goodnight all.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2015 05:16 PM (q2o38)

45 #39, Just scary looking dog breeds for the children of course. "No one besides the government needs attack dogs", etc. Eventually some paper pusher will ban pet goldfish for an asinine environmental reason.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at November 28, 2015 05:16 PM (A1Dcl)

46 Sizes Matters Not The hell it doesn't!

Posted by: Charlie Sheen at November 28, 2015 05:18 PM (lQqij)

47 Disney is finding a star wars tie-in with every conceivable product. A reboot of the Mickey Mouse club with Mickey Vader.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 28, 2015 05:18 PM (FkBIv)

48 Hey everybody. Rickl, the Criterion bluray of the classic Dylan doc "Don't Look Back" is on sale at B&N right now for $20 (normally $40).

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 05:18 PM (ntObR)

49
Sad that the author on understanding military strategy only focuses on GOP candidates and no mention of the epic fails of President Ambiguous Pivot.



Robert Bateman
Deputy Chief of Plans NATO, Allied Rapid Reaction Corps
September 2010 - Present (5 years 3 months)
www.linkedin.com/in/robateman

Active-duty military personnel are prohibited from taking part in partisan politics. But, you know...

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 28, 2015 05:19 PM (kdS6q)

50 Hi all, Time for bed for me. Lotsa drivng time lately and I have to work this weekend. May see you later when I wake up in the middle of the night. Hasta lasagna. T

Posted by: Farmer at November 28, 2015 05:19 PM (o/90i)

51 Me write language tapes that teach Yoda and ET speak English. They Hulk's star pupils. Make Hulk proud.

Posted by: Incredible Hulk at November 28, 2015 05:20 PM (B1TZ/)

52 What's wrong with vigils and hashtags? It's how we stay safe.

Posted by: U of Missou Snowflake at November 28, 2015 05:20 PM (Dwehj)

53 29 LOVE the lions. Posted by: Y-not at November 28, 2015 10:10 PM (t5zYU) Even big cats are still cats. I like the capybara hot tub video someone posted last night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTk688cXTsA

Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 05:20 PM (sdi6R)

54 35 Were the lions fed Christians? Posted by: andycanuck at November 28, 2015 10:14 PM (xodPA) No. Rosie O'Donnell. They'll be digesting for a week.

Posted by: Bow Planes Down 30 Degrees Mr. Thomas at November 28, 2015 05:20 PM (lQqij)

55 Speaking of promotional tie ins, Chrysler and the last Hunger Games movie. WTF? There are no Chryslers in the movies. Nobody watches and goes F yeah I need a RAM truck. Some ad exec spent a LOT on hookers and blow.

Posted by: blaster at November 28, 2015 05:20 PM (F1vO6)

56 I don't want to get all PETA, but those lions are fucking lions! and they're in a cinderblock hell. That ain't right.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 28, 2015 05:21 PM (1xUj/)

57 Oh and today I got back from a roadtrip. Boulder-Atlanta, two days [stopped north of Paducah] Atlanta-Houston, two days [stopped north of Mobile] Houston-Boulder, two days [stopped Denton] Not as fun as one might think, especially in late November. Amarillo this morning was worst.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 28, 2015 05:21 PM (6FqZa)

58 Actually I heard somewhere (maybe on an ONT) that incredibly lazy people getting a pet goldfish, deciding that is too much work and releasing them into ponds and lakes is a problem as they out-compete native fish or some dam thing.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 28, 2015 05:21 PM (1OLmv)

59 When Star Wars was first released, I rode my bicycle 10 miles round trip to the drive in that was showing it, and sat outside watching with no sound.  Did this 14 times before I was able to save enough money to actually go to a theater and see it properly.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 28, 2015 05:22 PM (Wo9OY)

60 I predict the lions having the shits for two weeks then.

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 05:22 PM (xodPA)

61 Hey guys, delurking for a sec, while Grimmy plays Fallout. Hope you all had a fantastic Turkey Day. I did. Must say my sissy has become one HELL of a cook. Cats are knocked out all over the living room and three extra pumpkin pies are in the oven. Life is good at El Rancho Gushie.

Posted by: gushka can has kittens what plays fetch at November 28, 2015 05:23 PM (6ga6c)

62 No. Rosie O'Donnell. They'll be digesting for a week. Wasn't that how Rosie was born in the first place?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 28, 2015 05:23 PM (6FqZa)

63 i'm going to say it...i don't get the fascination with star wars......at all....i saw the original when it came out in the theater....it was ok at best......the only part that was memorable was the bar scene......the other movies were long and boring.......there....i feel better.....



Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at November 28, 2015 10:03 PM


The fascination with Star Wars is fascinating in it's own right. It's a cultural phenom that draws me in, regardless of the films themselves.

Posted by: otho at November 28, 2015 05:24 PM (EWg9n)

64 Great to see you, Gushie! Don't be a stranger!

Posted by: Emmie at November 28, 2015 05:25 PM (PiNvr)

65 Wrecked 'im? Damn near killed 'im!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at November 28, 2015 05:25 PM (kpqmD)

66 Hi Anna! sorry AshevilleRobert is sick. hope other peeps are well. I'm a little tired.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 05:25 PM (bLnSU)

67 So my father's favorite highball - an old fashioned - is now the hipster drink of choice? If the old man were alive, he'd be amused to know he's now fashionable. The last time that happened was oh, 1952 or so.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at November 28, 2015 05:25 PM (P8951)

68 GUSHKA! Hope he's playing it on a console, the PC UI is a disaster. Also hope he's feeling better!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 05:26 PM (bLnSU)

69 Yeah Blaster I about choked on that Fiat BS. Marchionne thinks of his plant employees, brand managers included, about the same way the Sutherland character in Hunger Games thinks of the people living out in the sectors.

But advertising is joyfully disconnected from the companies it represents. What a life. I posit that nasal indulgences and homosexual appetites are the key factors.

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 05:26 PM (xq1UY)

70 I think Gushie is just so busy she has little time for Internet People.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 05:26 PM (bLnSU)

71 Everyone's "bro" Kevin Smith is unbearable in this.

That's why I shut it off.

The guy's 45.  Trying to sound like a bitchy 19-year-old really grates.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at November 28, 2015 05:27 PM (oVJmc)

72 "sorry AshevilleRobert is sick.

hope other peeps are well.

I'm a little tired. Posted by: Merovign"

Thanks.  It's not too bad as long as I sit up.  If I lay down though the coughing from hell starts up.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 28, 2015 05:27 PM (Wo9OY)

73 And the fascination with Star Wars is one of those things that makes the world spin

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 05:28 PM (+oRxW)

74 48 Rickl, the Criterion bluray of the classic Dylan doc "Don't Look Back" is on sale at B&N right now for $20 (normally $40). Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 10:18 PM (ntObR) Thanks! Will a bluray play on a regular DVD player, or the one in my computer?

Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 05:29 PM (sdi6R)

75 "If the old man were alive, he'd be amused to know he's now fashionable. The last time that happened was oh, 1952 or so. Posted by: Donna&&&&V"

Hey everyone, check out my new Zoot Suit!

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 28, 2015 05:29 PM (Wo9OY)

76 If Wilbur had tried anything with me, he would have gotten a hoof in the nuts. Although, come to think of it, if he had, would I have even realized anything was going on back there? Humans aren't exactly hung like horses you know.

Posted by: Mr. Ed at November 28, 2015 05:30 PM (P8951)

77 Goofy.... I Am Your Father!

Posted by: Mickey Vader at November 28, 2015 05:30 PM (uZNvH)

78 The best Star Wars episode? The Holiday Special... hands down.

Posted by: otho at November 28, 2015 05:30 PM (EWg9n)

79 74 48 Rickl, the Criterion bluray of the classic Dylan doc "Don't Look Back" is on sale at B&N right now for $20 (normally $40). Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 10:18 PM (ntObR) Thanks! Will a bluray play on a regular DVD player, or the one in my computer? Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 10:29 PM (sdi6R) If one of them is a BluRay player, yes. Otherwise no.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at November 28, 2015 05:30 PM (kpqmD)

80 Re: Gary Kleck Not only is he well-respected, he came to the subject expecting his data would support the controllers, and when it didn't *he said so*. I got his uber-detailed book Point Blank, one of the largest studies done on the subject. It was hard to get a bookstore to order it because of the ******* hipsters and it cost me an arm and a leg. This was pre- or early-Amazon. No matter what happens, The Science will not change the left's mind - you will not see liberals backing off on magazine bans - because the arguments they are making are not their real motivations, so disproving them is ineffective.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 05:30 PM (bLnSU)

81 it would not surprise me if disney employs more people in merchandising than in the making of star wars. it's a well planned campaign to make it an international cultural phenomenon. i think that story will be more interesting than the movie.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 28, 2015 05:30 PM (WTSFk)

82 Hi Gushka!

Posted by: chemjeff at November 28, 2015 05:31 PM (uZNvH)

83 i'm going to say it...i don't get the fascination  with star wars......at all....i saw the original when it came out in the  theater....it was ok at best......the only part that was memorable was  the bar scene......the other movies were long and  boring.......there....i feel better..... Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at November 28, 2015 10:03 PM Our mutual friend of prodigal habits and wanderings, it's by far the biggest Star wars fan I have ever seen, and I know some HUGE NERDS. Used to say that the dishonor of watching The Matrix and liking it, could only be expired by watching the entire Star Wars Saga in one sitting. I'm sorry, had to tell him there's not enough weed in the world to make that punishment bearable... and I don't believe in doing drugs.

Posted by: gushka can has kittens what plays fetch at November 28, 2015 05:31 PM (6ga6c)

84 And the fascination with Star Wars is one of those things that makes the world spin


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 10:28 PM


Amen.

Posted by: otho at November 28, 2015 05:31 PM (EWg9n)

85 The cat in the top photo has just realized that the 3 buttons on the back of the pack are labeled WASH , RINSE and SPIN DRY.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 28, 2015 05:31 PM (Wo9OY)

86 Sometimes I feel like that chicken. Neigh. Whinny. Sigh.

Posted by: Swiss Horsey at November 28, 2015 05:32 PM (Dwehj)

87 And the fascination with Star Wars is one of those things that makes the world spin - And the cash registers ring.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 28, 2015 05:32 PM (Nwg0u)

88 Thanks. It's not too bad as long as I sit up. If I lay down though the coughing from hell starts up. Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 28, 2015 10:27 PM (Wo9OY) I hate those. A good expectorant may let you get a little sleep - after the horrifying-coughing-your-lungs-out part. I wish you luck and comfort in that mess.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 05:32 PM (bLnSU)

89 77 Goofy.... I Am Your Father! Posted by: Mickey Vader at November 28, 2015 10:30 PM (uZNvH) No Goofy...I am your father!

Posted by: Rickey Vader, eating gay soup at November 28, 2015 05:32 PM (kpqmD)

90 Posted by: gushka can has kittens what plays fetch at November 28, 2015 10:31 PM (6ga6c)

lol!!!


Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at November 28, 2015 05:32 PM (0O7c5)

91 Hey chemjeff! You coming to us live from the casa or are you hanging out at fapplebee's any more?

Posted by: gushka can has kittens what plays fetch at November 28, 2015 05:33 PM (6ga6c)

92 OK, I'm out the tablet is nt playing nice with the HQ tonight range day tomorrow with Twin the Eldest and The Boy. woot! g'night, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 28, 2015 05:33 PM (4RlNs)

93 Rickl, you can also get Criterion's DVD edition of the same movie from B&N for $14.99.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 05:33 PM (ntObR)

94 and I know some HUGE NERDS. Posted by: gushka can has kittens what plays fetch at November 28, 2015 10:31 PM (6ga6c) Yeah, I could stand to lose some weight.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 05:34 PM (bLnSU)

95 "goofy... i am your father"! listen, the money stream from star wars may dwarf all the rest. they might make back that $4 billion in a few years.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 28, 2015 05:34 PM (WTSFk)

96 Hey chemjeff! You coming to us live from the casa or are you hanging out at fapplebee's any more? Posted by: gushka can has kittens what plays fetch at November 28, 2015 10:33 PM (6ga6c) He's been cooking for himself. (snicker)

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 05:35 PM (bLnSU)

97 Was seated next to two teenage/college freshmen/sophomore types at my favorite breakfast place's counter today. They were yapping at that annoying level that the little snowflakes do so that you just cannot tune them out. They are going on and on about how stupid Trump is and how stupid we are for not wanting to accept Syrians and equating muslims with terrorists yada yada yada. The blonde snowflake sitting next to me says, "Why shouldn't we accept these Syrians?" I say loud enough to be heard and a bit more, "Because they want to fucking kill us!" That shut them up enough for me to eat in peace. Fucking Snowflakes. Can't shoot them. Can and should send them to Syria.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 28, 2015 05:35 PM (lQqij)

98 That gay soup commercial is retarded. The 2 guys don't show enough fem and their voices are too masculine

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 05:35 PM (09Lhy)

99 Star Wars inspires an almost religious enthusiasm which is a little hard to understand.

Posted by: Caliban at November 28, 2015 05:35 PM (3GFMN)

100 What's wrong with Star Wars is the subliminal white genocide symbolized by the black stormtrooper.

Posted by: SJW strawman at November 28, 2015 05:35 PM (B1TZ/)

101 Well, just made a big mistake. Drank a leftover cup of coffee. (Had to fix my mom's Keurig earlier today). In 3 hours I expect to be writing the Great American Novel, playing online poker, and repainting the entire house, inside and out, all at the same time, dang caffeine. Sigh.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 05:36 PM (ntObR)

102 "the tablet is nt playing nice with the HQ tonight

range day tomorrow with Twin the Eldest and The Boy. woot!

g'night, 'rons Posted by: AltonJackson"

Android?  My android phone has all sorts of problems with the HQ.  Constantly crashes.  And I can't cut - paste comments with it either.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 28, 2015 05:36 PM (Wo9OY)

103 chemjeff, get a chance to watch Ex Machina yet? And to SMFH, if you're out there, glad you enjoyed it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 05:37 PM (ntObR)

104 Steve you forgot your movie

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 05:37 PM (QvClr)

105 Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving, MH, despite that pitiful, infuriating Packers loss. What a stupid end to what was (for me anyway) a very pleasant holiday.

Posted by: Mr. Ed at November 28, 2015 05:38 PM (P8951)

106 96 Hey chemjeff! You coming to us live from the casa or are you hanging out at fapplebee's any more? Posted by: gushka can has kittens what plays fetch at November 28, 2015 10:33 PM (6ga6c) He's been cooking for himself. (snicker) Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 10:35 PM (bLnSU) Stomach pump and fire extinguisher on standby?

Posted by: Flood tubes 3 and 4 and open outer doors at November 28, 2015 05:38 PM (lQqij)

107 What exactly is the difference between Bluray and regular DVD?

Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 05:39 PM (sdi6R)

108 Chemjeff, we might have to work out arrangements for you to take some accelerated learning courses down here in Texas? Spend a 3 or 4 day weekend here in Galveston. By the end of your visit, we'll have you fully up to speed on about 80% of what you'll need to know to survive in the kitchen. And your production therefrom. Also, I'll get you out to the pistol range, and time permitting, a good rifle range, too. I'll arrange a nearly endless variety of guns for you to try, and will bear-down hard on getting you some very good basic instruction.... by time we're done with a half-day at the range, I'll have you reliably shooting into the 9 ring or better, on a B-27 target at 7 and 10 yards. Plus, there'll be plenty of adult libations, premium cigars and introductions to some noteable folks in the shooting and cigar worlds. In other words, a bit of Moron Boot Camp. Cooking and marksmanship.....two fields that just scream out for quality coaching and mentoring. You Tube videos have their uses, but also, limitations. And when you're done here, Iris will have shown you two dishes that no one else you know, will know how to make. Steak and Guiness Pie, and Irish Twice Baked Potatos (in duck fat). Don't worry though, I'll have you mastering a good steak, roast and bacon, too. Plus. Texas. Need you any more inducement than that? Well, in that case, we can wrap a Texas MoMeet around it, right. Something for after winter breaks into early Spring, I think. Polliwog and I have tried to get one off the ground before, but the effort ran out of time and steam before really getting going. Maybe Spring of '16 will be the right time for Teh Horde to descend on the burgs South of Houston. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 28, 2015 05:39 PM (McRlu)

109 @97 I wouldn't mind having breakfast with you I love your commentary

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 05:40 PM (Omh3b)

110
Luke, I am your farter.

Posted by: Darth Farter at November 28, 2015 05:40 PM (EWg9n)

111 Gushka shows up for a horse ONT. That's a surprise!

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 05:40 PM (xodPA)

112 Opps, off horsey sock!

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at November 28, 2015 05:41 PM (P8951)

113 Star Wars' appeal can be summed up in 4 words:
Darth Vader's face mask.

That's it.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 28, 2015 10:13 PM (B1TZ/)



Princess Leia's slave bikini deserves at least honorable mention.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 05:41 PM (7MWCL)

114 Rickl, bluray is a format that holds more megabytes per disc, mostly used to improve the image resolution. But, DVD is still a pretty good format. And both bluray and DVD editions blow VHS tapes out of the water.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 05:41 PM (ntObR)

115 Fucking Snowflakes. Can't shoot them. Can and should send them to Syria. Posted by: The Man from Athens --- And even after Paris, and the fact that most of them are neitheer syrian nor refugees. Or that Christians endure greater persecution and are much more deserving of help. *sigh* It's so easy for the media to lie to them because they desperately cling to those lies, no.matter what the facts are.

Posted by: SJW strawman at November 28, 2015 05:43 PM (B1TZ/)

116 MH, will probably be writing that plus several new movies. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 05:43 PM (ntObR)

117  I think Gushie is just so busy she has little time for Internet People. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 10:26 PM (bLnSU) I lurk compulsively. Even read the blog in the saddle from my phone, but with ten cats and nine horses, and a man going to school full time, I'm running in circles. Oh, and sickly high-maintenence mom... how could I forget? Been listening to podcasts from sargon of akkad and vee. As good as bill whittle but Sargon is a brit, and vee is a Romanian. Holy shit, former Soviet bloc citizens HATE progressivism! Worth looking up on you toob if you're bored. They started out as game reviewers, gamer gate hit and they started channels to talk about current events. Sargon ' s This Week in Stupid is not to be missed. They are both classical liberals but the perspective on what's going on over here is interesting. If you are afraid to be overheard listening to non pc words don't play it where there's other people. Especially vee. Wow. Lotta language. But I have been curious to see what other countries morons are saying...

Posted by: gushka can has kittens what plays fetch at November 28, 2015 05:45 PM (6ga6c)

118 That little Swiss horse-sex stat has been discussed on every thread today.
Some people say they can't understand the appeal of Star Wars. I think we have deeper-seated issues than just that. Speaking of who your father is...

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 05:45 PM (xq1UY)

119 The Syreals mean us no harm.

Posted by: U of Missou Snowflake at November 28, 2015 05:45 PM (Dwehj)

120 The group said the number of unreported horse abuse cases is likely much higher than reported, Of course, the number of incidents reported is probably small because most of the horses don't consider this abuse and refuse to rat on their lovers. Who else would be reporting this stuff, anyway? The horse-fuckers, themselves? Consumers of horse-fucking videos (which must be seeing pretty brisk sales in Switzerland)? given that so many people in the country are involved with equestrian activities. LOL. Those zany Swiss! I think we can all rest easy until some weirdo starts telling the Swiss that they can get 72 virgin horses in heaven if they blow themselves up.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 05:45 PM (zc3Db)

121 Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 28, 2015 10:35 PM (lQqij) I like your style.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2015 05:46 PM (lLEPt)

122 105 Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving, MH, despite that pitiful, infuriating Packers loss. What a stupid end to what was (for me anyway) a very pleasant holiday. Posted by: Mr. Ed at November 28, 2015 10:38 PM (P8951) I've been laid up with a bad back. But the kids were home and that helped with the GB Slacker loss. Hope your thanksgiving was good.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 05:46 PM (vL/IL)

123 114 Rickl, bluray is a format that holds more megabytes per disc, mostly used to improve the image resolution. But, DVD is still a pretty good format. And both bluray and DVD editions blow VHS tapes out of the water. Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 10:41 PM (ntObR) Thanks. "Don't Look Back" was shot on 16mm B&W film, so DVD should be adequate. I don't see how BluRay would be much of an enhancement.

Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 05:46 PM (sdi6R)

124 What exactly is the difference between Bluray and regular DVD? Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 10:39 PM (sdi6R) Yuuuuge! Regular DVD is around 4 Gigs (single sided. Regular Blu-Ray is around 25 Gigs, single sided. High quality movies in 1080p can't really be squeezed into 4 Gigs (they can but a lot of info is lost) so they are best presented on Blu-Ray.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 05:47 PM (zc3Db)

125 gushka right now I am at home, basically the whole town now is a giant ice ball so going outside is taking your life in your own hands at this point

Posted by: chemjeff at November 28, 2015 05:47 PM (uZNvH)

126 TD 'Noles!!!!

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 05:47 PM (vsbNu)

127 Primoridial, exactamundo. Thanks for explaining it better and more knowledgeably than I could.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 05:48 PM (ntObR)

128 Apropos of nothing...

I really love Switzerland.

Posted by: Secretariat of State Lurch at November 28, 2015 05:48 PM (AJkxb)

129 To understand the appeal of Star Wars you have to understand 1977.

Posted by: eman at November 28, 2015 05:49 PM (MQEz6)

130 When I went for my run today, a nearby radio station had a small event uptown and the kids were getting free rides in a carriage drawn by horses.



I stopped, ran in place and looked at the horses for a minute or so. Beautiful creatures. Still didn't want to bang them though.....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 28, 2015 05:49 PM (AC0lD)

131 66 Hi Anna! sorry AshevilleRobert is sick. hope other peeps are well. I'm a little tired. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 10:25 PM (bLnSU) Radial?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 05:49 PM (EzgxV)

132 Those zany Swiss! I think we can all rest easy until some weirdo starts telling the Swiss that they can get 72 virgin horses in heaven if they blow themselves up. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 10:45 PM (zc3Db) Neigh means neigh!

Posted by: #MareLivesMatter at November 28, 2015 05:49 PM (vBeA5)

133 Thanks. "Don't Look Back" was shot on 16mm B&W film, so DVD should be adequate. I don't see how BluRay would be much of an enhancement. Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 10:46 PM (sdi6R) I'm sure it will be fine but in actuality, black and white film needs higher resolution to look good than color film. WIth color movies, the colors have a large effect on the picture quality and sharpness. With black and white you only have gray scales and need higher resolution to make the picture feel to be of the same quality. Of course, you are saving info by not having colors but that is likely more than offset by the need for higher resolution.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 05:50 PM (zc3Db)

134 So, why the long face, dear?

Posted by: Romantic Swiss Pony Enthusiast at November 28, 2015 05:50 PM (Dwehj)

135 Jim that sounds like a plan

Posted by: chemjeff at November 28, 2015 05:50 PM (uZNvH)

136 "Goofy Has Two Fathers"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 28, 2015 05:50 PM (NeFrd)

137 Hmm, don't think it came up earlier, but the Swiss report just said sex between humans and horses. We're the ones who presumed that was, well, man on top. There is another way this can work, and it would make a lot more sense in explaining sudden popularity in the exact centre of Yoo-rup. 

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 05:50 PM (xq1UY)

138 @125 chemjeff go for it. Your cooking sounds as if your life is in your hands

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 05:51 PM (UiGnh)

139 Wilber! What are you doing?!!

Posted by: eman at November 28, 2015 05:52 PM (MQEz6)

140 Does the Swiss Army Horse include a corkscrew?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 28, 2015 05:53 PM (NeFrd)

141 I hope the rumors of Jimbo Fisher going to LSU have been put to rest.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 05:53 PM (vsbNu)

142 Luke has two daddies.

Posted by: Darth Gaydar at November 28, 2015 05:54 PM (B1TZ/)

143 eman, I think you have a point there. Strictly IMHO: It seems sci-fi films were all mostly stuck in a 1950s Buck Rogers "progress!!" or Invasion Of the Body Snatchers "monsters!!" mode of thinking pre-Star Wars. Plus the fact that as I recall, Star Wars' effects were the all-time best ever up to that point in 1977. Didn't hurt that Lucas also presented his characters not as anachronistic stick figure relics, but as people who fit into the zeitgeist of the late 1970s; it was easy to imagine Luke, Han , Lando or even Chewbacca tearing it up on the disco floor. ;-) I often think of "Logan's Run" as the last old-school sci-fi flick, and Star Wars as the first of a new wave of the genre.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 05:54 PM (ntObR)

144 There is another way this can work, and it would make a lot more sense in explaining sudden popularity in the exact centre of Yoo-rup. Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 10:50 PM (xq1UY) Nothing "sudden" about it ...

Posted by: Catherine the Great at November 28, 2015 05:54 PM (zc3Db)

145 Saw a two-tone horse out grazing in the field across the highway from the rig today. Head and neck pure white, all black from the front shoulders back.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 05:55 PM (7MWCL)

146 >>>Neigh means neigh!

Posted by: #MareLivesMatter at November 28, 2015 10:49 PM (vBeA5)<<<



#BlackStallionLivesMatter

Posted by: BSLM at November 28, 2015 05:55 PM (AJkxb)

147 it seems that disney is finding a star wars tie-in with every conceivable product.

I recently saw a Star Wars-related cosmetics commercial. It just seemed so wrong.

Posted by: Cultural appropriation! Star Wars is supposed to be for us nerds! at November 28, 2015 05:55 PM (ftJ4J)

148 Get well soon, MH. Back trouble is no fun. Goodnight, horde, I'm fading....

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at November 28, 2015 05:55 PM (P8951)

149 Damn, Stanford 38 Notre Dame 36. Holy shiite.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 05:55 PM (vsbNu)

150 Nite Donna

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 05:56 PM (DmRs2)

151 147 it seems that disney is finding a star wars tie-in with every conceivable product. I recently saw a Star Wars-related cosmetics commercial. It just seemed so wrong. Posted by: Cultural appropriation! Star Wars is supposed to be for us nerds! at November 28, 2015 10:55 PM (ftJ4J) --Kay is selling Star Wars *charm bracelets*.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 05:57 PM (vsbNu)

152 Saw a two-tone horse out grazing in the field across the highway from the rig today. Head and neck pure white, all black from the front shoulders back. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon Old Paint.

Posted by: Earl Scheib at November 28, 2015 05:57 PM (FkBIv)

153 Luke, what do you think of mommy's pretty, new plastic facemask?

Posted by: Caitlyn Vader at November 28, 2015 05:57 PM (B1TZ/)

154 @149 and of course I changed the channel after ND goes up with 30 seconds

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 05:57 PM (Oy0zJ)

155 You haven't lived until you've seen the Swiss rodeo. They have a version of bull riding that'll knock your socks off!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 05:58 PM (zc3Db)

156 Star Wars: Die-hard fanboys hurt a franchise, I've always felt that way. Lucas, just like most people, will weather a hell of a lot of criticism if it comes with billion-dollar ticket sales. I will not be seeing JJ Abram's movie the opening week. I don't want to see nerds with lightsabers. /get off my lawn

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 28, 2015 05:58 PM (VdICR)

157 Oh in 2016, if the FBI doesn't have enough already on their plate, the FBI will start tackling animal cruelty cases. No word if PETA will get a rectal probe. Posted by: Anna Puma at November 28, 2015 09:59 PM (QF8oJ) So animal cruelty is a Federal crime now?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 28, 2015 05:58 PM (o98Jz)

158 Cat in the butt

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 28, 2015 05:58 PM (m9HtY)

159 @143 we watched a DVD of Logan's Run the other night, I remember when it came out, and the TV show, it was so cool and sci-fi. Watching it today, well, it was practically a 1950s sci-fi film with just a bit more skin to show. And get this - Star Wars came out just one year later. The differences in the movies, just one year apart. Really amazing. Yeah, Lucas ruined everything. But first he made something amazing.

Posted by: blaster at November 28, 2015 05:59 PM (F1vO6)

160 Old Paint.

Posted by: Earl Scheib at November 28, 2015 10:57 PM (FkBIv)



heh. I'll bet there are people here who don't get the joke in your nic.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:00 PM (7MWCL)

161 Damn, Stanford 38 Notre Dame 36. What a finish. Too bad, NBCotre Dame.

Posted by: t-bird at November 28, 2015 06:00 PM (yddCj)

162 Strictly IMHO: It seems sci-fi films were all mostly stuck in a 1950s Buck Rogers "progress!!" or Invasion Of the Body Snatchers "monsters!!" mode of thinking pre-Star Wars. Plus the fact that as I recall, Star Wars' effects were the all-time best ever up to that point in 1977.

Didn't hurt that Lucas also presented his characters not as anachronistic stick figure relics, but as people who fit into the zeitgeist of the late 1970s; it was easy to imagine Luke, Han , Lando or even Chewbacca tearing it up on the disco floor. ;-)

I often think of "Logan's Run" as the last old-school sci-fi flick, and Star Wars as the first of a new wave of the genre.



Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 10:54 PM


Largely true... but there are exceptions that predate Star Wars. SW was an alignment of a bunch of things that made it stand out, but, it wasn't the first in regards to being a "new breed". Well, arguably, anyway.

Posted by: otho at November 28, 2015 06:00 PM (EWg9n)

163 blaster, exactly. Thanks. Stuff like Logan's Run just seemed plain corny to me post-Star Wars.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 06:01 PM (ntObR)

164 Goodbye Notre Dame!!! Woo hoo!!

Posted by: Blano at November 28, 2015 06:01 PM (heN73)

165 145 Saw a two-tone horse out grazing in the field across the highway from the rig today. Head and neck pure white, all black from the front shoulders back. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 10:55 PM (7MWCL) Would that have been a Bald Equine?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 06:01 PM (EzgxV)

166 "Goofy Has Two Fathers"
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon


Goofy is a fascist, because he has his own dog, Pluto.

Posted by: Bernie Sanders, from Vermont at November 28, 2015 06:01 PM (+1T7c)

167 Hector here on a Saturday night. Gimme a fucking break

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 06:02 PM (ZZgPW)

168 otho, there were precedents to Star Wars to be sure. 2001, Silent Running and even Lucas' own THX-1138 come to mind. I'm sure there are others.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 06:02 PM (ntObR)

169 Posted by: Earl Scheib at November 28, 2015 10:57 PM (FkBIv) heh. I'll bet there are people here who don't get the joke in your nic. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 11:00 PM (7MWCL) Kindly step away from my lawn.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2015 06:02 PM (lLEPt)

170 Radial? Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 10:49 PM (EzgxV) Airless run-flats.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 06:02 PM (bLnSU)

171 I get it, some people didn't like Star Wars. But it was great, good versus evil, no shades of grey, really. Well, except for Han, he shot first, but redeemed himself. Redemption is a good story, too. And then they handed out medals at the end. It created a whole different universe that seemed quite real.

Posted by: blaster at November 28, 2015 06:02 PM (F1vO6)

172 Posted by: Ace Says at November 28, 2015 11:00 PM (EgYbw)


especially the "rayk-" variety

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:02 PM (7MWCL)

173 HOOOORDE Some wild foosball games today. What else is going on?

Posted by: DC in River City [/i][/s][/b] at November 28, 2015 06:02 PM (e+1S5)

174 No Goofy...I am your father!
Posted by: Rickey Vader, eating gay soup


I just play guitar.

Posted by: Eddie Vedder at November 28, 2015 06:03 PM (+1T7c)

175 They've made 6 Star Wars movies. 3.5 of them have sucked. The last three and half of Return of the Jedi. I can't figure out the huge excitement over a franchise that hasn't put out a really good movie in 35 years. Even with the geezers from the first go around showing up for a few minutes to get the geeks off for nostalgia sake I can't image it being worth all this hype

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 06:03 PM (45oDG)

176 Two things made Star Wars. The opening scene with the star destroyer filling the screen as it pursued Leia's transport. Han Solo. Everything else was standard scifi tropes.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 28, 2015 06:04 PM (o98Jz)

177 The Empire is waging war against women by denying them free space birth control pills.

Posted by: Fluke Skywalker at November 28, 2015 06:04 PM (B1TZ/)

178 Stuff like Logan's Run just seemed plain corny to me post-Star Wars. Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 11:01 PM (ntObR) Even at the time, the best thing about Logan's Run was the 5 minutes with Farrah Fawcett (Majors) in it, with Jenny Agutter making the rest of the movie bearable. Other than that, the story was beyond silly (even then) and made no sense, whatsoever. The laser surgery was cool but that was about it and that was overshadowed because it was Farrah's time onscreen, anyway.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 06:04 PM (zc3Db)

179 Would that have been a Bald Equine?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 11:01 PM (EzgxV)



If it had been bald, it would have been pink. or blue. No, it had a good coat of hair.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:04 PM (7MWCL)

180 179 Would that have been a Bald Equine? Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 11:01 PM (EzgxV) If it had been bald, it would have been pink. or blue. No, it had a good coat of hair. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 11:04 PM (7MWCL) ....and Bald Eagles got feathers everywhere.... *sigh*

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 06:05 PM (EzgxV)

181 otho, there were precedents to Star Wars to be sure.

2001, Silent Running and even Lucas' own THX-1138 come to mind. I'm sure there are others.


Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 11:02 PM


Ah, ok... gotcha. I was thinking 2001 and Silent Running as well... also Planet of The Apes... Yes, POTA. 1968 and it was a weird ass movie for the time when you think about it. No great SFX innovations, but the story and characters were light years away from the routine of it's day. There's prolly others as well.

Posted by: otho at November 28, 2015 06:05 PM (EWg9n)

182 Horde!



I saw a signed magazine cover featuring Cryin' Boehner inside of Montgomery Inn today -- who here was snarking about Montgomery Inn / Ribs King when he resigned?

Posted by: Steck at November 28, 2015 06:06 PM (ZOQyy)

183 Nice TD by Cook to ice the cake. FU Gaytors! What a glorious game.

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 06:06 PM (vsbNu)

184 Primordial, exactly. The old sci-fi model had really run out of gas (or rocket fuel, as the case may be).

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 06:06 PM (ntObR)

185 @176 I disagree - there were a LOT of things that made Star Wars. A lot of stuff we saw for the first time. Lucas and Dykstra and ILM literally invented the techniques. Or it was the first time we saw it in Sci-Fi.

Posted by: blaster at November 28, 2015 06:06 PM (F1vO6)

186 By the way, I'm binge-watching The Man In The High Castle this weekend, and it's fucking awesome. Perfectly captures the creepy paranoia of living in a fascist state. The pilot was decent, but the subsequent episodes have really been exceptional.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 28, 2015 06:08 PM (o98Jz)

187 >>>Neigh means neigh! Posted by: #MareLivesMatter at November 28, 2015 10:49 PM (vBeA5)<<< #BlackStallionLivesMatter Posted by: BSLM at November 28, 2015 10:55 PM (AJkxb) ¡Usted es racista!

Posted by: Tiauana Donkey, whom all the Chicas love... at November 28, 2015 06:08 PM (vBeA5)

188 Eddie Vedder plays guitar? Who knew

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 06:08 PM (UiGnh)

189 One thing made Star Wars: the light saber. Without it, Star Wars is just another space opera, but with names made-up by a 7-year old George Lucas.

Posted by: Arbalest at November 28, 2015 06:09 PM (FlRtG)

190 Another thing with Star Wars was that it wasn't popular fur a few weeks then faded like most movies today. You still had to stand in long lines for tickets to see it and risk it being sold out 3, 4, 5 months after it opened. At least anywhere near where I lived.

Posted by: Blano at November 28, 2015 06:09 PM (heN73)

191 The first Star Wars blew everyone away with the special effects and the world they created. The second one was a better story but it's been down hill every since.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 06:09 PM (45oDG)

192 I'm counting on my "Star Wars" condoms and IUD's to make me a fortune!!!

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 28, 2015 06:09 PM (AC0lD)

193 2001 was too hallucinogenic at the end. And it did not end well for everyone. Silent Running was also dystopic (apparently not a word but I am using it and you know what it means). Ultimately it was bleak, there was no hope. THX 1138 was a film school project grown big, it was also dystopic. Star Wars had good guys fighting bad guys and winning, and you felt good about it.

Posted by: blaster at November 28, 2015 06:09 PM (F1vO6)

194 FSU 27 Gaytors 2 Now off to bed. 'Night all!

Posted by: logprof at November 28, 2015 06:09 PM (vsbNu)

195 Star Wars benefits from the fact its entire mythology and setting is not connected to Earth. People love to create myths and here is a chance to create a whole galaxy of them. It blends the human desire for myths with the reality of other galaxies and technology and science. It is different than other mythic creations. It blends magic (The Force) with science and technology. The ultimate geek combo.

Posted by: eman at November 28, 2015 06:09 PM (MQEz6)

196 Didn't hurt that Lucas also presented his characters not as anachronistic stick figure relics, but as people who fit into the zeitgeist of the late 1970s; it was easy to imagine Luke, Han , Lando or even Chewbacca tearing it up on the disco floor. ;-)





The Buck Rogers TV show had them discoing in the 25th Century. Now that's a classic

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 06:11 PM (45oDG)

197 blaster, right. Star Wars took newer, better sci-fi concepts and married them to, well, a more palatable story for the masses.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 06:11 PM (ntObR)

198 Nite logprof

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 06:11 PM (QdyoO)

199 Primordial, exactly. The old sci-fi model had really run out of gas (or rocket fuel, as the case may be). Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 11:06 PM (ntObR) Which was amazing (in a retarded way) as we had just gotten to the moon not 15 years before. But ... the 70s and Carter killed a lot of things. A lot. Overall, however, there still hasn't been a decent, interesting sci-fi movie made yet. Not a one. Sci-fi movies have only offered choices of least worst - to this day. To think, there hasn't even been a SINGLE sci-fi movie that has taken relativity into account. Not a single one. The most interesting aspect of the physical universe and not one sci-fi movie has even incorporated it in any way. Fucking pathetic, is all I have to say about that.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 06:11 PM (zc3Db)

200 TheQuietMan, by that time Buck Rogers was copying Star Wars. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 06:12 PM (ntObR)

201 ....and Bald Eagles got feathers everywhere.... *sigh*

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 11:05 PM (EzgxV)



aaargh! Missed the bald eagle allusion. I guess because eagles are white and brown, maybe? Man, I remember one time walking along the bank of the Quesnel River, near Likely, B.C. during the chinook salmon run. Darn near every tree was occupied by roosting bald eagles, and more eagles were cruising up and down the canyon seeking salmon to snag. The lower limbs of the trees were festooned with the rotting carcasses of salmon. And eagle shit. Lots and lots of eagle shit. The smell would knock a buzzard off a shit-wagon at 80 paces. But so cool to see hundreds of huge eagles along only about a mile of riverbank.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:12 PM (7MWCL)

202 So animal cruelty is a Federal crime now?  Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 28, 2015 10:58 PM (o98Jz) Certain types, yes. Things like torturing animals to death have been made a schedule 2 felony. It happens that people who torture animals to death tend to hurt humans too, so they finally made it more than a minor property crime. They find they can catch serious bad guys this way.

Posted by: gushka can has kittens what plays fetch at November 28, 2015 06:12 PM (6ga6c)

203 Star Wars?  Never heard of it.

'thud'

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at November 28, 2015 06:13 PM (+1T7c)

204 Star Wars also had lasers (in space!), explosions (in space!), great visual effects, great sound effects and and a great soundtrack.

But it did all start going pear-shaped when the Ewoks showed up (sorry, Ace).

Actually, Jabba's shitty fake-looking orc guards were pretty bad too.

Posted by: eh, most of "Jedi" sucked, really at November 28, 2015 06:13 PM (ftJ4J)

205 There are a lot of horses just outside of town. They're beautiful but I'm happy enough to look from afar.

Posted by: Northernlurker, feeling grumpy today at November 28, 2015 06:13 PM (4rzL1)

206 Primordial, hmmm. Not even Philip K. Dick has done that in his stories?

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 06:13 PM (ntObR)

207 @199 - Interstellar. Relativity all over that bad boy.

Posted by: blaster at November 28, 2015 06:14 PM (F1vO6)

208 TheQuietMan, by that time Buck Rogers was copying Star Wars. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 11:12 PM (ntObR)



By that time everyone including James Bond was. But it was hysterical that they were discoing in the 25th Century and using late 70s lingo.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 06:14 PM (45oDG)

209 TQM, oh yeah. :-) But then nobody ever confused TV writers for Nobel Prize winning dramatists. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 06:15 PM (ntObR)

210 By that time everyone including James Bond was. But it was hysterical that they were discoing in the 25th Century and using late 70s lingo.


Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 11:14 PM


Buck Rogers was a jive turkey.

Posted by: otho at November 28, 2015 06:16 PM (EWg9n)

211 One thing I also just realized: It's funny IMHO how some sci-fi and horror authors get *everything* they write turned into movies, while others... not so much. Stephen King and Philip K. Dick? Lotsa movies based on their works. Isaac Asimov and Ray Bradbury? Not so much from what I know.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 06:17 PM (ntObR)

212 To think, there hasn't even been a SINGLE sci-fi movie that has taken relativity into account. Not a single one. The most interesting aspect of the physical universe and not one sci-fi movie has even incorporated it in any way. Fucking pathetic, is all I have to say about that. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 11:11 PM (zc3Db) Off the top of my head, Ender's Game and Interstellar.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 06:17 PM (bLnSU)

213 199. Sorry to say, but you're wrong about no Sci Fi movies taking Relativity into account. Fact is, it was the Star Wars franchise itself, that revealed that Darth Vader was Luke's father, and that Luke and Leah might as well have been Arkansas Hillbilly Kissin' Cousins there for a while. Relativity, bah. That whole damn fambly tree ain't nuthin' but a Gordian knot. /obvioussnark Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 28, 2015 06:17 PM (McRlu)

214 201 ....and Bald Eagles got feathers everywhere.... *sigh* Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 11:05 PM (EzgxV) aaargh! Missed the bald eagle allusion. I guess because eagles are white and brown, maybe? Man, I remember one time walking along the bank of the Quesnel River, near Likely, B.C. during the chinook salmon run. Darn near every tree was occupied by roosting bald eagles, and more eagles were cruising up and down the canyon seeking salmon to snag. The lower limbs of the trees were festooned with the rotting carcasses of salmon. And eagle shit. Lots and lots of eagle shit. The smell would knock a buzzard off a shit-wagon at 80 paces. But so cool to see hundreds of huge eagles along only about a mile of riverbank. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 11:12 PM (7MWCL) That sounds very cool. Especially with noseplugs.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 06:18 PM (EzgxV)

215 while the original star wars was being made, 20th century fox was pinning its hopes on another sci-fi epic, damnation alley. the budget was more than star wars ($17 million vs $11 million) and it's junk.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 28, 2015 06:18 PM (WTSFk)

216 By that time everyone including James Bond was. But it was hysterical that they were discoing in the 25th Century and using late 70s lingo.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2015 11:14 PM (45oDG)



But Buck Rogers was never intended to be serious sci-fi. It began as a newspaper comic strip, right? basically falls into the genre: "space opera". So the fact that the characters speak in the vernacular of the time the movie is produced is a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:18 PM (7MWCL)

217 Not even Philip K. Dick has done that in his stories? Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 11:13 PM (ntObR) Couldn't say. I never read any of his stuff. Not in any of the movies made of his stories that I've seen. @199 - Interstellar. Relativity all over that bad boy. Posted by: blaster at November 28, 2015 11:14 PM (F1vO6) Well ... it's about time, then. I haven't seen it yet so I can't say anything more on that. Perhaps you can expand on what they did with relativity (other than mentioning that time on Earth was moving very quickly relative to theirs - which is something that the Planet of the Apes actually addressed in the set-up to its story (which went retarded right after that)). ... I guess I should have mentioned this part of POTA having touched upon Relativity and used it to set the astronauts down far into Earth's future. So, there was that ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 06:19 PM (zc3Db)

218 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 28, 2015 06:20 PM (YJmuy)

219 Stephen King and Philip K. Dick? Lotsa movies based on their works. Isaac Asimov and Ray Bradbury? Not so much from what I know. Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 11:17 PM (ntObR) They got TV shows, for whatever reason. I, Robot was *vastly* reinterpreted into a movie or two. There was talk of a Foundation movie, never happened. Bradbury had a miniseries and a, um, "variety series" I guess you could call it. Nightfall and Bicentennial Man were also Asimov.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 06:20 PM (bLnSU)

220 Off the top of my head, Ender's Game and Interstellar. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 11:17 PM (bLnSU) I could only make it through the first 30 or 40 minutes of Ender's Game ... twice. I can't imagine the movie got any smarter from there, but maybe I'm mistaken.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 06:20 PM (zc3Db)

221 One of the best things about the original Star Wars is that it was the first sci-fi movie to show spaceships as kind of beat-up, seedy, and "lived-in". Before that there was the "2001" vision that was clean and antiseptic.

Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 06:20 PM (sdi6R)

222 @215 Damnation Alley. Awful. Also, post-apocalyptic. Turns out people actually like to feel good.

Posted by: blaster at November 28, 2015 06:21 PM (F1vO6)

223 rickl, also true. Merovign, didn't know about those works of Asimov's. Thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 06:22 PM (ntObR)

224  There are a lot of horses just outside of town. They're beautiful but I'm happy enough to look from afar. Posted by: Northernlurker, feeling grumpy today at November 28, 2015 11:13 PM (4rzL1) You are wise. Horses are expensive, fragile and time consuming. I freak out every time I leave the farm, for fear of all the things that have gone wrong, usually while I was out for just a couple hours trying to have fun. Knock on wood, no major disasters for a long time. I have the place pretty well horse proofed, the vet says all my troubles are really weird, because I have thought of and planned against all the normal stuff. And the pies are out of the oven and it's almost pie-thirty!

Posted by: gushka can has kittens what plays fetch at November 28, 2015 06:22 PM (6ga6c)

225 One of the best things about the original Star Wars is that it was the first sci-fi movie to show spaceships as kind of beat-up, seedy, and "lived-in". Before that there was the "2001" vision that was clean and antiseptic.


Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 11:20 PM


"Dark Star" 1974.

Posted by: otho at November 28, 2015 06:22 PM (EWg9n)

226 Buck Rogers keeps coming back because it's an awesome *concept*. But yeah, the second season of the TV series was a real stinker. The first was uneven and tied to some really embarrassing trends, but it had good moments. Remember, re-make the flops, if they were good concepts. Unfortunately, that doesn't always work out (Battlestar Galactica - originally a financial flop if not a cultural one).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 06:23 PM (bLnSU)

227 TPOP Interstellar dealt with both speed and gravitic relativity. It played a huge part of the story. Imperfect, of course, but it was there.

Posted by: blaster at November 28, 2015 06:23 PM (F1vO6)

228 Ray Bradbury? Not so much from what I know.

Now you kids are just messing around.
Eighty nine credits on IMDB. Plus this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1IxOS4VzKM

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 06:23 PM (xq1UY)

229 Well there's more to science than relativity.

But it would've been weird to have Han launch the Falcon into hyperspace, only to power out of it half-an-hour protagonist-time, but thirty Vader-years, later, during which time ol' Darth would've consolidated control of the galaxy, refurbished 3P0 into an Amidala clone, and committed unspeakable genocide on the forest moon of Endor.

Come to think of it, that's an interesting idea ... you can power up to near-light or FTL speed to escape your pursuer, but then you cede control of events and arrive at a point in the future where your enemy has been able to work his plans at will.

Posted by: wait, what's "ordinary" speed through time? at November 28, 2015 06:23 PM (ftJ4J)

230 What U.S. specialty network airs The Man in the High Castle?

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 06:25 PM (xodPA)

231 while the original star wars was being made, 20th century fox was pinning its hopes on another sci-fi epic, damnation alley. the budget was more than star wars ($17 million vs $11 million) and it's junk.

C'mon, you gotta love the cockroaches that can strip a man's flesh to the bone faster then meth fuelled piranhas.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 28, 2015 06:25 PM (YJmuy)

232 Yeah, Damnation Alley needs a re-make. By someone good, not Lion's Gate. Or SyFy. I wish it was pie-thirty here!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 06:25 PM (bLnSU)

233 One of the best things about the original Star Wars is that it was the first sci-fi movie to show spaceships as kind of beat-up, seedy, and "lived-in". Before that there was the "2001" vision that was clean and antiseptic.

Posted by: rickl at November 28, 2015 11:20 PM (sdi6R)



Roombas that work in zero-G are damnably expensive. And they still don't suck up the farts.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:25 PM (7MWCL)

234 Old and busted: Horse fucking Teh New Hotness: Goat fucking

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 28, 2015 06:26 PM (RU5ki)

235 #225  Silent Running

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at November 28, 2015 06:26 PM (Kucy5)

236 Gushka! The fiancee and I were thinking about you last Saturday -- we went to see Cavalia's Odysseo in SF and kept thinking of Gushieland.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 06:26 PM (EzgxV)

237 Stringer, hmmm. Thanks for that. I'll say this: today's "safe space" toddlers would get a much-deserved, overdue jolt of reality training from a new, big-budget, quality remake of "Fahrenheit 451." Would love to see something like that come out today and become a huge hit.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 06:27 PM (ntObR)

238 Asimov's works are typically thinky and now when I go back and read some of them, they aren't well written. They took I, Robot a collection of short stories where the protagonist was a female psychologist and turned it into an action vehicle for Will Smith. Oh, and it was dystopian on top of that.

Posted by: blaster at November 28, 2015 06:27 PM (F1vO6)

239 Stephen King and Philip K. Dick? Lotsa movies based on their works. Isaac Asimov and Ray Bradbury? Not so much from what I know. Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 11:17 PM (ntObR) Dunno about the others, but Phillip k Dick's fifth wife was left with nothing when he died, and I imagine she and his kid (now grown), need/want the money.

Posted by: gushka can has kittens what plays fetch at November 28, 2015 06:28 PM (6ga6c)

240 Oh, and it was dystopian on top of that. Yeah, because things are going swell right now.

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 06:28 PM (xodPA)

241 Jim in Texas: The cooking and shooting lessons are all well and good, but what about getting Chemjeff L A I D ?

Posted by: CMU VET at November 28, 2015 06:29 PM (ejB0r)

242 >>Teh New Hotness: Goat fucking Sigh.

Posted by: Achmeds Goat at November 28, 2015 06:29 PM (c7vUv)

243 gushka, can believe that. Dick seems like the kind of guy who would have died with a woefully incomplete will.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 06:29 PM (ntObR)

244 Jim in Texas: The cooking and shooting lessons are all well and good, but what about getting Chemjeff L A I D ? Posted by: CMU VET at November 28, 2015 11:29 PM (ejB0r) I WAS HERE FIRST!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 06:30 PM (bLnSU)

245 229: wow. great observation. so when the enterprise is traveling at 7 times the speed of light, they're also actually leaving the time as well as the space of the federation.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 28, 2015 06:30 PM (WTSFk)

246 109 @97 I wouldn't mind having breakfast with you I love your commentary Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 10:40 PM (Omh3b)

Posted by: Flood tubes 3 and 4 and open outer doors at November 28, 2015 06:30 PM (lQqij)

247 gushka, can believe that. Dick seems like the kind of guy who would have died with a woefully incomplete will. Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 11:29 PM (ntObR) His life was pretty "demilitarized zone." It is a sad tale.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 06:30 PM (bLnSU)

248 240 Oh, and it was dystopian on top of that. Yeah, because things are going swell right now. Posted by: andycanuck at November 28, 2015 11:28 PM (xodPA) Think of all the Depression-era musicals -- people want escapist fun; they'd take explorational entertainment; they'll get hopeless dystopias.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 06:30 PM (EzgxV)

249 >>but what about getting Chemjeff L A I D ? Uh, I'm busy that weekend.

Posted by: The Chicken at November 28, 2015 06:30 PM (c7vUv)

250 They took I, Robot a collection of short stories where the protagonist was a female psychologist and turned it into an action vehicle for Will Smith. Oh, and it was dystopian on top of that.



Posted by: blaster at November 28, 2015 11:27 PM (F1vO6)



I don't recall reading all of Asimov's robot stories, but the ones I did seemed to be basically logic puzzles, contrived around the "three laws of robotics". OK to read, but too cerebral for the movies.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:31 PM (7MWCL)

251 When you travel seven times the speed of light, it's easy to get burned...

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 06:31 PM (xodPA)

252 @240 yet another reason to make movies that make you feel good. I saw where Tomorrowland was going and it seems like the suits went in and ruined it. It started out with this theme, that the future used to be cool, and now we think of the future as bad. And the cause of all the bad things happening are that the negative vibes are reinforcing. I think I can see what the story Brad Bird was trying to tell and wish he had been able to tell it.

Posted by: blaster at November 28, 2015 06:32 PM (F1vO6)

253 Merovign, yup. From what I've read, it sounds as if Dick had (thankfully somewhat mild) schizophrenia with paranoid tendencies.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 06:32 PM (ntObR)

254 The fiancee and I were thinking about you last Saturday -- we went to see Cavalia's Odysseo in SF and kept thinking of Gushieland. Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 11:26 PM (EzgxV) Awww. I was just vacuuming little mascot goat, today, and thinking of you while I cleaned Tiny house! Hope all is well under the sea in your non-euclidian Palace!

Posted by: gushka can has kittens what plays fetch at November 28, 2015 06:32 PM (6ga6c)

255
Scifi reflects where we are headed. Shitopias... Shitopias run by a Shitocracy.

Posted by: jim lahey at November 28, 2015 06:32 PM (EWg9n)

256 SW was wholesome fun for many of us, but as a morality play, it was too fluffy. A Rorschach blot that was unable to innoculate a budding generation of libtards against liberalism. Tyranny doesn't come in a black frightmask. It comes in a pantsuit, pretending to be full of concern and kindness. The next great portayal of evil must resemble Hillary more than Darth, must get into the subtle trickery of the left.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 28, 2015 06:32 PM (B1TZ/)

257 Bruce, sounds like '1984.' :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 06:33 PM (ntObR)

258 244 Jim in Texas: The cooking and shooting lessons are all well and good, but what about getting Chemjeff L A I D ? Posted by: CMU VET at November 28, 2015 11:29 PM (ejB0r) I WAS HERE FIRST! Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 28, 2015 11:30 PM (bLnSU) Come on, everyone -- Jim's a heckuva Moron and I'm sure he can provide exceptional results.....but he's not about to do loaves-and-fishes and water-into-wine level stuff.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 06:35 PM (EzgxV)

259 So I see Loretta Lynch has weighed in on the shooting as "A crime against Women."WTF?

Posted by: donna at November 28, 2015 06:35 PM (/dSsq)

260 Anthony Rogers, WWI veteran, was a big hit in pulp novellas before the comic strip was conceived. We have a jaded view of it now because the late-30's low-budget serial movies were regular fare at art-house midnight underground movies in the 60's. The original appeal of SW was nothing more than camp.

Had the same budget and special effects been afforded to a quality re-boot of that story, it would have done just as well. There's quite a lot to it. People in 1977 were pretty damn hungry for heroes. Having been subjected to a series of zombie-like reanimations, all copied from something else, I doubt there's any future for it, at least for some time. I had high hopes for the Burroughs stories, but, alas.

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 06:36 PM (xq1UY)

261 I got seven horny Jaws after me and they've highjacked the Viargra run to Kessel!

Posted by: Snow White at November 28, 2015 06:36 PM (lQqij)

262 *Insert standard rant that there are no movies made from C.J. Cherryh books*

Posted by: Grump928(C) has drink taken at November 28, 2015 06:36 PM (rwI+c)

263 229: wow. great observation. so when the enterprise is traveling at 7 times the speed of light, they're also actually leaving the time as well as the space of the federation.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 28, 2015 11:30 PM (WTSFk)



Relativity applies when moving at or near the speed of light in normal space. The "convention" in science fiction is that if you jump into hyperspace, or use a space warp, or wormhole, you can cover vast distances in near-zero time, from either the travelers' or stay-behinds' frame of reference.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:36 PM (7MWCL)

264 Sorry to say, but you're wrong about no Sci Fi movies taking Relativity into account. Fact is, it was the Star Wars franchise itself, that revealed that Darth Vader was Luke's father, and that Luke and Leah might as well have been Arkansas Hillbilly Kissin' Cousins there for a while. Relativity, bah. That whole damn fambly tree ain't nuthin' but a Gordian knot. /obvioussnark Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at November 28, 2015 11:17 PM (McRlu) There is always Gunbuster (AKA トップをねらえ!). Time dilation was an important plot point.

Posted by: タカヤ・ノリコ at November 28, 2015 06:36 PM (vBeA5)

265 Forget chemjeff, what about ME??????

Posted by: Blano at November 28, 2015 06:37 PM (heN73)

266 What, I've out lived my usefulness?

Posted by: The Chicken at November 28, 2015 06:37 PM (lLEPt)

267 Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 28, 2015 11:30 PM (WTSFk) It's not just that. It's the fact that the speed of light is finite. When the Enterprise is two light years away from some place they can't have normal conversations with them in "real time". Star Trek was based in a totally Newtonian universe with an infinite speed of light - which is funny seeing how their big thing was "warp speed". It was sci-fi thought up by people who, evidently, knew nothing about science ... or just didn't care. That said, I liked the original Star Trek series even with these problems. There wasn't much else to pick from.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 06:38 PM (zc3Db)

268 I don't recall reading all of Asimov's robot stories, but the ones I did seemed to be basically logic puzzles, contrived around the "three laws of robotics". OK to read, but too cerebral for the movies. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 11:31 PM (7MWCL) "Caves of Steel" was a decent murder mystery, and could be turned into a decent movie.

Posted by: R. Political Hat at November 28, 2015 06:38 PM (vBeA5)

269 Come on, everyone -- Jim's a heckuva Moron and I'm sure he can provide exceptional results.....but he's not about to do loaves-and-fishes and water-into-wine level stuff.

Note to self:  Don't hire Jim for Easter events.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 28, 2015 06:38 PM (YJmuy)

270 Stringer Davis, hmmm. Remember the high-budget reboot of Flash Gordon in 1980, complete with the soundtrack by Queen? As I recall, it was a *huge* flop.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 06:38 PM (ntObR)

271 "241 Jim in Texas: The cooking and shooting lessons are all well and good, but what about getting Chemjeff L A I D ? Posted by: CMU VET at November 28, 2015 11:29 PM (ejB0r)" CMU.... not even Dr. Jim McCoy could work that kind of miracle. He's a doctor, not a miracle worker! Who knows, maybe Ace won't be abusing Teh Chicken that weekend? Arrangements might be made. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX p.s. ol' Chemjeff learns his way around a kitchen, his odds go way up. I'd think some 'ettes would vouch for that assertion?

Posted by: Jim[/i][/b][/u][/s] at November 28, 2015 06:39 PM (McRlu)

272 The "Jedi morality" thing philosophically disintegrated when they tried to develop it . Later authors tried to fix it, and some exceeded to some extent, but there are still many absurdities involved. I do get a giggle out of people who try to form "Jedi Orders," seems fairly popular (for a fanboy club) in England. It's such a disordered, goofy and simplistic set of ideas.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 06:39 PM (bLnSU)

273 Certain types, yes. Things like torturing animals to death have been made a schedule 2 felony. It happens that people who torture animals to death tend to hurt humans too, so they finally made it more than a minor property crime. They find they can catch serious bad guys this way.

Posted by: gushka can has kittens what plays fetch at November 28, 2015 11:12 PM (6ga6c)

 

I have to wonder how much of a connection there is between animal fighting and other criminal networks. 

Posted by: Colorado Alex at November 28, 2015 06:39 PM (fC9RO)

274 209 TQM, oh yeah. :-) But then nobody ever confused TV writers for Nobel Prize winning dramatists. ;-) Posted by: qdpsteve at November Oh I don't know about that. That jef got a Nobel award for peace

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 06:40 PM (Oy0zJ)

275 don't recall reading all of Asimov's robot stories, but the ones I did seemed to be basically logic puzzles, contrived around the "three laws of robotics". OK to read, but too cerebral for the movies.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 11:31 PM


I, Robot could be done very well. But, it doesn't lend itself to the standard Hollywood format. To do I, Robot, you can't just pick one bit and present it out of context in a single movie. It would require something like a series, possibly movies, but better suited to TV, I suspect. Present each and every story as a self contained episode and do all of them (well, most. Some might be redundant). There aren't really any "central characters" in I', Robot.... just a couple of recurring ones.

Posted by: otho at November 28, 2015 06:40 PM (EWg9n)

276 Bedtime.  Have fun ya'll.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 28, 2015 06:40 PM (Wo9OY)

277 The Rapist Robots in Flesh Gordon were an interesting twist.

Posted by: Grump928(C) has drink taken at November 28, 2015 06:40 PM (rwI+c)

278 What U.S. specialty network airs The Man in the High Castle? Posted by: andycanuck at November 28, 2015 11:25 PM (xodPA) Amazon

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 28, 2015 06:40 PM (o98Jz)

279 And I see that it's Amazon Prime carrying The Man in the High Castle. Not available here although I did find a link showing how to use HMA (that I guess means a Hide My Ass) to disguise from where you're viewing. Too much work for me. Maybe a specialty station here will pick it up one of these days?

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 06:41 PM (xodPA)

280 The Rapist Robots in Flesh Gordon were an interesting twist. Posted by: Grump928(C) has drink taken With a soundtrack also by Queen.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 06:42 PM (/oy1S)

281
   Just a driveby to say hello and share something.

  This  Thanksgiving made me realize how truly lucky we are, in spite of all the current uproar, to live here in this yet most exceptional country.

   It reaffirmed my belief that one day we will once again be that shining city on a hill.  We are NOT going to fail in this struggle hard though it is, as Americans,we are denied the option of failure.

Remember that in the coming times, and since we all are Americans, the head is held HIGH.

    Goodnite, good people.    Stay safe.


Posted by: irongrampa at November 28, 2015 06:42 PM (jeCnD)

282 #278 Doh!

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 06:43 PM (xodPA)

283 Oh, the I, Robot series would need to finish with Bicentennial Man to close out the subject.

Posted by: otho at November 28, 2015 06:43 PM (EWg9n)

284 The "convention" in science fiction is that if you jump into hyperspace, or use a space warp, or wormhole, you can cover vast distances in near-zero time, from either the travelers' or stay-behinds' frame of reference. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 11:36 PM (7MWCL) Most came up with that explanation (which is pretty bogus, to begin with) long after the stories had already been written or filmed. It was just a cop-out. That's obvious because even in a universe where people are instantaneously jumping through wormholes there will still be many who are just bicycling at .9c and having all the relevant effects between them and the universe. But in these sci-fi stories where they claim the wormhole wild card, it's funny that no one in that universe seems to ever travel at .9c anywhere ... and, as I mentioned above, they still like to have instant communications from one end of the universe to the other ... because it's simple.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 06:44 PM (zc3Db)

285 Well, I am off to bed. Kind of ran short on sleep time last night, and today has been busy. Looking forward to eight hours of sleep.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:45 PM (7MWCL)

286 The Logan's Run movie did not do justice to the novel which dealt a lot more extensively with the story of how that society came into being. Basically a youth revolt and genocide of adults, that was supposed to be sustained by a cult of voluntary suicide at age 21 that became mandatory and more authoritarian as time went on...

Posted by: Sanfranpsycho at November 28, 2015 06:45 PM (afaIk)

287 Posted by: irongrampa Inspirational as always. Gives me hope.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 06:45 PM (/oy1S)

288 sock off

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2015 06:46 PM (lLEPt)

289 Amazon treats Canadians like second-class citizens.

Netflix does too.

Bastards.

Posted by: if you click me, do I not ... at November 28, 2015 06:46 PM (ftJ4J)

290 Nite AOP

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, home is where the heart is, on the bus at November 28, 2015 06:47 PM (VROg+)

291 *waves to Gushka*

Hat:

Gunbuster: Aim for the Top!.  Might was well toss in Voices of a Distant Star which is a riff on Halderman's The Forever War.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 28, 2015 06:48 PM (QF8oJ)

292 @270 Yep, but, "derivative" is too kind a word for it. As others noted, and I went ahead and just plain bitched about, by that time it was an imitation Star Wars.

There were some attempts to revive other serial-movie heroes and pulp stories in that period, too. Remember "Doc Savage, The Man of Bronze"? 

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 06:48 PM (xq1UY)

293 *Insert standard rant that there are no movies made from C.J. Cherryh books* Posted by: Grump928(C) has drink taken at November 28, 2015 11:36 PM (rwI+c) You are the only one who suggested it, so now I need to know which stories. Chanur? Downbelow Station? Cuckoo s Egg? Or the Chronicles of Morgaine?

Posted by: gushka can has kittens what plays fetch at November 28, 2015 06:48 PM (6ga6c)

294 And no Hulu either.

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 06:48 PM (xodPA)

295 255 Scifi reflects where we are headed. Shitopias... Shitopias run by a Shitocracy. Posted by: jim lahey at November 28, 2015 11:32 PM (EWg9n) It astounds me how the promised internet disintermediation has been turned into price opacity beyond anything imaginable when you had to publish ads in newspapers. Now prices vary minute by minute, depending on what cookies you have on your browser, while the retail-government complex mines your purchase history in ways they believe are worth $400 a year from your pocket [ http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=230926 ]. Who pays rack rates for hotel rooms? Flights? Harbor Freight tools? Electronics? Everything's value is based on a coupon, a rebate, a scan code, a website, or a cookie.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 06:49 PM (EzgxV)

296 If they ever reboot Flash Gordon, instead of Queen they should get Brendan Smalls from Metalocalypse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_FhwS43IYE

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 28, 2015 06:49 PM (VdICR)

297 With Stargate I keep expecting Morgain kri Chya and Vayne to walk out and shut them all down.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 28, 2015 06:50 PM (QF8oJ)

298 Why the hell have they not done "Forever War" as a major movie? Is it in development hell? Rights bought, then left in a drawer out of spite?

Posted by: otho at November 28, 2015 06:50 PM (EWg9n)

299 Stringer, I don't remember that, sorry. But I definitely agree that a lot of Star Wars ripoffs came and went from 1977 to about 1985 or so.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 06:50 PM (ntObR)

300 One of the best stories about Philip Dick was that Robert Heinlein kept bailing him out when he had money troubles. "Several years ago, when I was ill, Heinlein offered his help, anything he could do, and we had never met; he would phone me to cheer me up and see how I was doing. He wanted to buy me an electric typewriter, God bless him one of the few true gentlemen in this world. I don't agree with any ideas he puts forth in his writing, but that is neither here nor there. One time when I owed the IRS a lot of money and couldn't raise it, Heinlein loaned the money to me. I think a great deal of him and his wife; I dedicated a book to them in appreciation. Robert Heinlein is a fine-looking man, very impressive and very military in stance; you can tell he has a military background, even to the haircut. He knows I'm a flipped-out freak and still he helped me and my wife when we were in trouble. That is the best in humanity, there; that is who and what I love."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 28, 2015 06:50 PM (o98Jz)

301 I wonder if it's the CRTC fucking us on the streaming options to protect Liberal-donating cable companies? They must have some CanCon crap attached to their licenses here.

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 06:50 PM (xodPA)

302 But in these sci-fi stories where they claim the wormhole wild card, it's funny that no one in that universe seems to ever travel at .9c anywhere ... and, as I mentioned above, they still like to have instant communications from one end of the universe to the other ... because it's simple.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 11:44 PM (zc3Db)



Well, I didn't claim it had to make sense. But once you develop FTL travel, I expect slower travel will just end, at least for interstellar distances. Who would want to spend months or years of perceived time, and arrive on Flubadub IV three centuries after the Joneses, who went FTL, and bought up all the beachfront property?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:50 PM (7MWCL)

303 >>>Amazon treats Canadians like second-class citizens.
Netflix does too.
Bastards.
Posted by: if you click me, do I not ... at November 28, 2015 11:46 PM (ftJ4J)<<<



But you aren't citizens. Unless you're Ted Cruz*.


*and on that note... eat a dick, wife beater Alan Grayson.

Posted by: Amazon at November 28, 2015 06:51 PM (AJkxb)

304 Best sci fi novel never filmed: Ira Levin's: This Perfect Day

Posted by: Sanfranpsycho at November 28, 2015 06:51 PM (afaIk)

305 There were some attempts to revive other serial-movie heroes and pulp stories in that period, too. Remember "Doc Savage, The Man of Bronze"?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 11:48 PM (xq1UY)



And The Golden Amazon, too. Female super-hero.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 06:53 PM (7MWCL)

306 *and on that note... eat a dick, wife beater Alan Grayson. Posted by: Amazon That's wife beater and certified paranoid schizophrenic Alan Grayson.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 06:53 PM (/oy1S)

307 Saturday Night Sideboob ONT Compliance Pics https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/670810080179261440 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/670810344101699584 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/670810538801291264 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/670810759111266305 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/670810969078108160

Posted by: kbdabear at November 28, 2015 06:53 PM (tw2k5)

308 More Saturday Night Sideboob ONT Compliance Pics https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/670811172854173697 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/670811329733787648 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/670811525716774913 https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/670812619729711104

Posted by: kbdabear at November 28, 2015 06:55 PM (tw2k5)

309

The Forever War could never be filmed today.  The SJW would go apeshit.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at November 28, 2015 06:56 PM (fC9RO)

310 Evening horde.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at November 28, 2015 06:56 PM (9jeGC)

311 That's wife beater and certified paranoid schizophrenic Alan Grayson. Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic Who gets elected to congress.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 28, 2015 06:57 PM (FkBIv)

312 302 But in these sci-fi stories where they claim the wormhole wild card, it's funny that no one in that universe seems to ever travel at .9c anywhere ... and, as I mentioned above, they still like to have instant communications from one end of the universe to the other ... because it's simple. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 11:44 PM (zc3Db) Well, I didn't claim it had to make sense. But once you develop FTL travel, I expect slower travel will just end, at least for interstellar distances. Who would want to spend months or years of perceived time, and arrive on Flubadub IV three centuries after the Joneses, who went FTL, and bought up all the beachfront property? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 11:50 PM (7MWCL) I'd expect that there would be a cost difference to balance things out, and that there'd always be something chugging along at sub-lightspeed 'cause it was so much cheaper to wait.

Posted by: The Freight at November 28, 2015 06:57 PM (EzgxV)

313 #NoForeverWarForOil

Posted by: SJW Snowflakes at November 28, 2015 06:57 PM (/oy1S)

314 i did notice the relativity flaw in aliens, the sequel to alien. when ripley reruns to earth her daughter is older than her because she was floating in space for decades. but decades would have passed had her original ship traveled those vast distances at anything near the speed necessary to make the trip economically viable.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 28, 2015 06:58 PM (WTSFk)

315 Amazon treats Canadians like second-class citizens. --------------- It's deserved, for that thing that you do to bacon. So there.

Posted by: Shep Smith, Ace Reporter at November 28, 2015 06:58 PM (9mTYi)

316 returns to earth

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 28, 2015 06:59 PM (WTSFk)

317 Well at least the CRTC hasn't banned kbdabear's feed yet.

Posted by: is Saturday Night Sideboob new, or have I not been paying enough attention to the weekend ONTs? at November 28, 2015 07:00 PM (ftJ4J)

318 Relativity applies becomes more apparent when moving at or near the speed of light in normal space.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2015 11:36 PM
---
fify

Posted by: Lurking Pedant at November 28, 2015 07:01 PM (cIsDX)

319 incidentally, the book "logan's run" had some explicit sex, including a robot rapist.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 28, 2015 07:01 PM (WTSFk)

320 including a robot rapist

Hey, you know she wanted it, with those saucy edge-sensitive SR flip-flops.

Posted by: she was a fast machine at November 28, 2015 07:05 PM (ftJ4J)

321 Hobby Link Japan is having a Black Friday sale that lasts until Dec. 1st.

http://www.hlj.com/black-friday-sale-2015

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 28, 2015 07:05 PM (QF8oJ)

322 I'd expect that there would be a cost difference to balance things out, and that there'd always be something chugging along at sub-lightspeed 'cause it was so much cheaper to wait.

Unless, of course, the underlying principles of FTL make it cheaper than sub-light.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 28, 2015 07:05 PM (YJmuy)

323  Bruce, sounds like '1984.' :-) Posted by: qdpsteve --- Yeah, we just need one with iconic imagery, so even not too bright types will have it seared into their minds.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 28, 2015 07:06 PM (B1TZ/)

324 320 including a robot rapist Hey, you know she wanted it, with those saucy edge-sensitive SR flip-flops. Posted by: she was a fast machine at November 29, 2015 12:05 AM (ftJ4J) But did she keep her motor clean?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 07:06 PM (EzgxV)

325 incidentally, the book "logan's run" had some explicit sex, including a robot rapist.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 29, 2015 12:01 AM (WTSFk)

O,weary?


(very nearly an awesome hash btw)

Posted by: Japan at November 28, 2015 07:07 PM (rNeWa)

326 But did she keep her motor clean? Posted by: cthulhu No.

Posted by: Bender with the roboclap at November 28, 2015 07:08 PM (/oy1S)

327 Tommorowland: Now that they are handing out Star Wars movies like Oprah with Camreys, I hope that Brad Bird gets one. Also Mathew Vaugn. My biggest issue with Tommorrowland is than the characters jump into a new vehicle every five minutes. The fact that Pirates of the Caribbean was a ride isn't obvious from the movie.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 28, 2015 07:08 PM (VdICR)

328 I don't know if anyone has posted or talked about this yet, but... Europe has a real antisemitism problem and Germany probably should avoid having bands of people march into stores demanding Joo products be given a special label. http://tinyurl.com/zcbuqaq

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 28, 2015 07:13 PM (39g3+)

329 Hey, you know she wanted it, with those saucy edge-sensitive SR flip-flops. Posted by: she was a fast machine ---------------- Honey, you don't even know...

Posted by: ECL Robot at November 28, 2015 07:14 PM (9mTYi)

330 Its part of an EU country of origin labeling law, but specifically people are going into stores demanding that products from Israel be labeled. The EU does not recognize the West Bank as being part of Israel, so there's some dispute over labeling.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 28, 2015 07:14 PM (39g3+)

331 322 I'd expect that there would be a cost difference to balance things out, and that there'd always be something chugging along at sub-lightspeed 'cause it was so much cheaper to wait. Unless, of course, the underlying principles of FTL make it cheaper than sub-light. Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 29, 2015 12:05 AM (YJmuy) Which could get interesting. What if, for example, shipping semiconductor chips with geometries less than 60 nm (new current generation is roughly 10 nm) through FTL resulted in bricks? And necessary dopants weren't available at the other end? Would you FTL the dopants and the designs, or slow-freight completed chips, knowing they'd get their 10 years late, but in bulk?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 07:15 PM (EzgxV)

332 Logans Run is right up there with Michael Cricton's Looker for me as books that really need a remade movie. Both of them really, really are appropriate for today.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 28, 2015 07:16 PM (39g3+)

333 >>>My biggest issue with Tommorrowland is than the characters jump into a new vehicle every five minutes. The fact that Pirates of the Caribbean was a ride isn't obvious from the movie.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 29, 2015 12:08 AM (VdICR)<<<



Then you're really not gonna like my new Disney ride themed flick... Tea Cups.

Posted by: Jerry Bruckheimer at November 28, 2015 07:16 PM (AJkxb)

334 Europe has a real antisemitism problem and Germany probably should avoid having bands of people march into stores demanding Joo products be given a special label. -------------------- Yellow Star of David labels. Problem solved.

Posted by: Reinhard Heydrich at November 28, 2015 07:17 PM (9mTYi)

335 Then you're really not gonna like my new Disney ride themed flick... Tea Cups. Posted by: Jerry Bruckheimer But you'll still love my porn version "Double-Tea Cups".

Posted by: Jerry Fuckheimer at November 28, 2015 07:18 PM (/oy1S)

336 333 >>>My biggest issue with Tommorrowland is than the characters jump into a new vehicle every five minutes. The fact that Pirates of the Caribbean was a ride isn't obvious from the movie. Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 29, 2015 12:08 AM (VdICR)<<< Then you're really not gonna like my new Disney ride themed flick... Tea Cups. Posted by: Jerry Bruckheimer at November 29, 2015 12:16 AM (AJkxb) I was sure I'd get the greenlight first....

Posted by: Mr. Toad's Ride to Hell at November 28, 2015 07:18 PM (EzgxV)

337 >>>incidentally, the book "logan's run" had some explicit sex, including a robot rapist.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 29, 2015 12:01 AM (WTSFk)<<<




What kind of mad man would make a dolphin robot?

Posted by: Bender Bending Rodriguez at November 28, 2015 07:19 PM (AJkxb)

338 @211 Stephen King and Philip K. Dick? Lotsa movies based on their works. Isaac Asimov and Ray Bradbury? --------------------- Bradbury's had a few. 'Something Wicked This Way Comes' was originally one of his books before Disney turned it into a movie. I've heard there's quite a difference between the two, though. Farenheit 451 had a movie. And Bradbury's 'The Martian Chronicles' had a TV mini-series made out of it. Asimov has had one short story (about a planet with multiple suns where nightfall rarely happens) turned into a movie, but apparently it did so poorly that I'd probably be hard-pressed to run it down. Clarke had 2001 and 2010, but I don't think any of his others were turned into movies. Heinlein had someone borrow the title of one of his novels, but I don't think anything else of his has been done. As for the two that you mentioned as getting lots of movies made - King could vomit into a printing press, put a title on the result, and sell an absurd number of copies. He's so popular that it's little surprise so many of his books have been turned into movies. As for PKD, afaik the trend of turning his books into movies seems to be a recent thing that started well after he'd passed on. It's possible that we'll see the same with Bradbury a couple of decades after he dies.

Posted by: junior at November 28, 2015 07:19 PM (PVi+Q)

339 Come to think of it, that's an interesting idea ... you can power up to near-light or FTL speed to escape your pursuer, but then you cede control of events and arrive at a point in the future where your enemy has been able to work his plans at will. Posted by: wait, what's "ordinary" speed through time? at November 28, 2015 11:23 PM (ftJ4J) That happens in the WH40k universe all the time - large-distance space travel is done by going through an alternate dimension called the Warp, where time is meaningless. Sometimes Warp travel isn't planned right and space fleets, for example, can arrive before the battle started or decades later.

Posted by: Thrawn at November 28, 2015 07:19 PM (wZ2hu)

340 335 Then you're really not gonna like my new Disney ride themed flick... Tea Cups. Posted by: Jerry Bruckheimer But you'll still love my porn version "Double-Tea Cups". Posted by: Jerry Fuckheimer at November 29, 2015 12:18 AM (/oy1S) Or the fetish/freak-out version, "Two Girls, One Teacup".

Posted by: Furry Jerkheimer at November 28, 2015 07:20 PM (EzgxV)

341 very interesting how euros hate the jews but love the muslims.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 07:21 PM (vb33c)

342 Even if everyone in Washington is an idiot, that doesn't change the fact that we need some new ice breakers. So, you go on Barack, get this one thing right, okay? Ya' tit!

Posted by: goon at November 28, 2015 07:21 PM (gy5kE)

343 Even if everyone in Washington is an idiot, that doesn't change the fact that we need some new ice breakers. So, you go on Barack, get this one thing right, okay? Ya' tit! Posted by: goon at November 29, 2015 12:21 AM (gy5kE) yeah but obamas tankers are fueled on algae and have composting heads.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 07:22 PM (vb33c)

344 obama is only adding insulation to lcs designs for his new icebreakers.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 07:23 PM (vb33c)

345 Junior, yup. And agreed re SK. It's ridiculous. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 07:23 PM (ntObR)

346 If tea cups are sent by NASA to destroy an asteroid while Aerosmith plays a power ballad ... Don't make up your mind right away. 50 shades got a sequel. That's just the world we live in ... I'm just saying.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 28, 2015 07:24 PM (VdICR)

347 Obsma ice breakers will make the Miami/Havana run. Daily. Bitches.

Posted by: eman at November 28, 2015 07:24 PM (MQEz6)

348 Then you're really not gonna like my new Disney ride themed flick... Tea Cups. Posted by: Jerry Bruckheimer at November 29, 2015 12:16 AM (AJkxb) ----------- Indian War Canoes: The Indian Nation Strikes Back

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 28, 2015 07:25 PM (RU5ki)

349 341 very interesting how euros hate the jews but love the muslims. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 29, 2015 12:21 AM (vb33c) I'm not sure if it's a "man on the street" thing, or merely a delusion of the anointed class of intelligencia. I suspect the average guy is more tolerant of the former and really loathes the latter.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 07:26 PM (EzgxV)

350 Don't make up your mind right away. 50 shades got a sequel. That's just the world we live in ... I'm just saying. Posted by: BourbonChicken I tried to make a porn version of 50 Shades, but the source material was just too poorly written.

Posted by: Jerry Fuckheimer at November 28, 2015 07:26 PM (/oy1S)

351 Oh the ice breakers are ships?

The hell with that.

I thought I was ordering Ice Breakers gum. That's the best for getting out the taste of cigarettes... and Reggie.

Posted by: SCOAMF at November 28, 2015 07:27 PM (AJkxb)

352 Which could get interesting. What if, for example, shipping semiconductor chips with geometries less than 60 nm (new current generation is roughly 10 nm) through FTL resulted in bricks? And necessary dopants weren't available at the other end?
Would you FTL the dopants and the designs, or slow-freight completed chips, knowing they'd get their 10 years late, but in bulk?


Depends on whether there was a fab at the distant end that could turn the designs into finished product.

Or would building said fab be an iterative process, with each tech generation being built for the purpose of building the next generation, with a smaller lithography footprint at each step?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 28, 2015 07:27 PM (YJmuy)

353 I'm not sure if it's a "man on the street" thing, or merely a delusion of the anointed class of intelligencia. I suspect the average guy is more tolerant of the former and really loathes the latter. Posted by: cthulhu at November 29, 2015 12:26 AM (EzgxV) well, not much of a worry whether they love or hate the jews, hate has been their default for generations, so long as they get a real and lasting dislike for the muslims.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 07:28 PM (vb33c)

354 Alberta Oil, I think that faster-than-light issued was set to rest, by You Know Who:

http://tinyurl.com/ofdqwf8

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at November 28, 2015 07:30 PM (xq1UY)

355 so long as they get a real and lasting dislike for the muslims. Posted by: yankeefifth God knows, the muzzies have been doing everything in their power for the last 1400 years to make Europeans hate them.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 07:31 PM (/oy1S)

356 352 Which could get interesting. What if, for example, shipping semiconductor chips with geometries less than 60 nm (new current generation is roughly 10 nm) through FTL resulted in bricks? And necessary dopants weren't available at the other end? Would you FTL the dopants and the designs, or slow-freight completed chips, knowing they'd get their 10 years late, but in bulk? Depends on whether there was a fab at the distant end that could turn the designs into finished product. Or would building said fab be an iterative process, with each tech generation being built for the purpose of building the next generation, with a smaller lithography footprint at each step? Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 29, 2015 12:27 AM (YJmuy) Exactly -- in 2013, they were saying that building a fab for that generation would cost about $12B. I don't suppose a colony wants to chase that high too hard while they're still investing in air supply. So do they keep money in terraforming, security, life support, and raw materials extraction with 20+-year-old tech, or do they plop down $12B for a fab that'll be obsolete before they run their first wafer?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 07:32 PM (EzgxV)

357 maybe I did not phrase that exactly correctly. muslims fine islam not so good. similar to my thoughts about redchina, chinese ok chinese commies suck balls.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 07:32 PM (vb33c)

358 Hi, Early Morning Thread is my favorite & if I start there I can't pull myself away. I only wear YSL EDP Paris. If any of The Horde Ladies likes YSL cosmetics ( I used to love their lipstick until they discontinued my favorite & most flattering color in 2008!) & haven't seen anything close to #50 Sparkling Rose, I think that was name. If any like YSL they have 20% off 2-3 times per year. Now is time, if you,know what you want for 20% off. L

Posted by: Carol at November 28, 2015 07:32 PM (sj3Ax)

359 348 Then you're really not gonna like my new Disney ride themed flick... Tea Cups. Posted by: Jerry Bruckheimer at November 29, 2015 12:16 AM (AJkxb) ----------- Indian War Canoes: The Indian Nation Strikes Back Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 29, 2015 12:25 AM (RU5ki) Thunder Mountain VBIED RR.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 07:33 PM (EzgxV)

360 So do they keep money in terraforming, security, life support, and raw materials extraction with 20+-year-old tech, or do they plop down $12B for a fab that'll be obsolete before they run their first wafer? Posted by: cthulhu ----------------- Funny you should say that. Just today I was looking at some 50 year old lead-frame samples. Given that they were not stored carefully, they do not look terrible.The gold plated samples look like new.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2015 07:36 PM (9mTYi)

361 Tom Sawyer's Micronation Island.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 07:36 PM (EzgxV)

362 Early morning!

Well, technically, this is so.

I submit to your unassailable logic, and will cash any cosmetics space-coupon you present at face value.

Posted by: HAL 9000, set to EST at November 28, 2015 07:38 PM (ftJ4J)

363 Tom Sawyer's Micronation Island. Posted by: cthulhu What you say about his company is what you say about society.

Posted by: Geddy Lee at November 28, 2015 07:38 PM (/oy1S)

364 Tom Sawyer's Micronation Island.

I'm not sure what this means, but I will pretend to catch the wit.

Posted by: Neil Peart, back when he didn't reflexively recoil from Ayn Rand at November 28, 2015 07:41 PM (ftJ4J)

365 The first people to head out to a new star will be passed up by their grandchildren with a better drive.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 28, 2015 07:41 PM (VdICR)

366 When Walt Disney was asked how he could claim the Matterhorn ride at Disneyland was supposed to be an exact replica of the actual mountain when it was obviously full of holes for the bobsleds, he famously replied "it's a Swiss mountain." 2016: the year they install horses to go with the holes.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 07:43 PM (EzgxV)

367 365, And they will yell Yeeehaaaaa! as they whiz on by.

Posted by: eman at November 28, 2015 07:44 PM (MQEz6)

368 Hal 9000, I meant the EMT between 6 to 8 a. Bye.

Posted by: Carol at November 28, 2015 07:44 PM (sj3Ax)

369 Exactly -- in 2013, they were saying that building a fab for that generation would cost about $12B. I don't suppose a colony wants to chase that high too hard while they're still investing in air supply. So do they keep money in terraforming, security, life support, and raw materials extraction with 20+-year-old tech, or do they plop down $12B for a fab that'll be obsolete before they run their first wafer?

Just about any practical colonial government would make do with what they had on hand.

Now, if they were saddled with progressives, the fab would be built over the objections of the populace on the basis that the newer tech would "save energy". 

It would, of course, be a boondoggle and the fab would never actually have any chips run on it's line. 

Meanwhile the money necessary for maintaining the colony would be wasted resulting in the deaths of nearly all colonists, save the progressive "leadership" who would have booked passage off world as soon as they had cash in hand.

Cash that was supposed to go to colony maintenance and building the fab facility, I might add.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 28, 2015 07:45 PM (YJmuy)

370 365 The first people to head out to a new star will be passed up by their grandchildren with a better drive. Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 29, 2015 12:41 AM (VdICR) But will the robotic Claimseeker III get there first, to make the grandchildren tenant farmers upon arrival?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 07:45 PM (EzgxV)

371 Some of yall know that i lost my son this fall. My daughter (with two awesome grandkids seems to be in what *I* call an abusive relationship. This guy was so mad because my daughter asked my husband to show her how to work an iphone, we all have samsungs except him,,,this was to be her 30th birthday party

Posted by: FCF at November 28, 2015 07:46 PM (kejii)

372 2016: the year they install horses to go with the holes. Posted by: cthulhu With a new express line for those engaging the great satan in jihad kids, hahaha.

Posted by: Mohammad Mouse at November 28, 2015 07:47 PM (/oy1S)

373 Cash that was supposed to go to colony maintenance and building the fab facility, I might add. Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 29, 2015 12:45 AM (YJmuy) Raises TANSTAAFL flag...

Posted by: HOLMES IV at November 28, 2015 07:48 PM (vBeA5)

374 The first people to head out to a new star will be passed up by their grandchildren with a better drive.

And their great-grandchildren will meet them at the destination, and then lock them up for child abandonment and non-payment of child support.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 28, 2015 07:48 PM (YJmuy)

375 Meanwhile the money necessary for maintaining the colony would be wasted resulting in the deaths of nearly all colonists, save the progressive "leadership" who would have booked passage off world as soon as they had cash in hand. Cash that was supposed to go to colony maintenance and building the fab facility, I might add. Posted by: Blanco Basura So, like an interstellar New Orleans then?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 07:49 PM (/oy1S)

376 Posted by: HOLMES IV

'Sup, HOLMES?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 28, 2015 07:50 PM (YJmuy)

377 The first people to head out to a new star will be passed up by their grandchildren with a better drive

Goddamn hooligans with their FTL drives and transistor radios!

Posted by: Orion Trail space pioneers at November 28, 2015 07:50 PM (ftJ4J)

378 471 FCF > was to be ????

Posted by: speedster1 at November 28, 2015 07:51 PM (1brdf)

379 371 Some of yall know that i lost my son this fall. My daughter (with two awesome grandkids seems to be in what *I* call an abusive relationship. This guy was so mad because my daughter asked my husband to show her how to work an iphone, we all have samsungs except him,,,this was to be her 30th birthday party Posted by: FCF at November 29, 2015 12:46 AM (kejii) I'm so sorry to hear, FCF. I'm afraid I'm not up-to-speed -- do they live nearby? How old are the grandkids? Has the SIL done anything actionable? Do you have a support network [more family, church, neighbors]?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 07:51 PM (EzgxV)

380 So, like an interstellar New Orleans then?

Pretty much, just paint the colonists' non-working "Evacuation" ships yellow.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 28, 2015 07:51 PM (YJmuy)

381 378 speedster1 Oops -> 371

Posted by: speedster1 at November 28, 2015 07:52 PM (1brdf)

382 did y'all read Fernandez's new piece - The Return of The Frontier?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 07:52 PM (vb33c)

383 The first people to head out to a new star will be passed up by their grandchildren with a better drive. Posted by: BourbonChicken And their great grandchildren will be going in the reverse direction.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 28, 2015 07:53 PM (FkBIv)

384 471 FCF

471 hasn't been posted yet.

Hyperspace moose out front should've told you.

Posted by: time-traveling ticket-taker at November 28, 2015 07:53 PM (ftJ4J)

385 did y'all read Fernandez's new piece - The Return of The Frontier?

No, but thanks for the suggestion.  Popping open a new tab for a bit.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 28, 2015 07:54 PM (YJmuy)

386 so, kinda slow around here these days.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 07:57 PM (vb33c)

387 Hyperspace moose out front should've told you. Posted by: time-traveling ticket-taker My sister was bitten by a hyperspace moose once.

Posted by: Space Swede 6000 at November 28, 2015 07:57 PM (/oy1S)

388 Hyperspace moose out front should've told you. Posted by: time-traveling ticket-taker My sister was bitten by a hyperspace moose once. Posted by: Space Swede 6000 at November 29, 2015 12:57 AM (/oy1S) your sister is a hyperspace moose.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 07:58 PM (vb33c)

389 387 Hyperspace moose out front should've told you. Posted by: time-traveling ticket-taker My sister was bitten by a hyperspace moose once. Posted by: Space Swede 6000 at November 29, 2015 12:57 AM (/oy1S) How many light-years did she jump?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 07:59 PM (EzgxV)

390 My sister was bitten by a hyperspace moose once.
Posted by: Space Swede 6000 at November 29, 2015 12:57 AM (/oy1S)
your sister is a hyperspace moose.


So they're like werewolves or something?

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 28, 2015 08:00 PM (YJmuy)

391 your sister is a hyperspace moose. Posted by: yankeefifth Your mother was a mechahampster and your father smelt of cyberberries.

Posted by: Space Swede 6000 at November 28, 2015 08:01 PM (/oy1S)

392 If your an FBI guy and you get assigned to the animal beat, you might as well start working on your resume. Or, transfer to DHS.

Posted by: Jean at November 28, 2015 08:01 PM (fBkaR)

393 your sister is a hyperspace moose. Posted by: yankeefifth Your mother was a mechahampster and your father smelt of cyberberries. Posted by: Space Swede 6000 at November 29, 2015 01:01 AM (/oy1S) oh, sorry, I misread moose, I thought it said whore.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 08:02 PM (vb33c)

394 My daughter was to spend the evening with us (me keeping the 10 and 5 yr old. We wanted to take her out but finals next week plus she works 40+ hours so no real time. "Boyfreind came in with an attitude" YAY I got to drink a glass of winewith her at least (Said boyargghhh walked home in the rain *VBG*) Icing on my cake... he didnt have keys to get into the house. It just pisses me off that he couldnt relax and let her spend time here (10 blocks away)

Posted by: FCF at November 28, 2015 08:02 PM (kejii)

395 so in the pantheon of bond movies where do y'all rank golden eye. I would put it in the top quarter. opening sequence alone is pretty good.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 08:05 PM (vb33c)

396 No network here sadly, I am playing middle to the parents so they see the kids.

Posted by: FCF at November 28, 2015 08:05 PM (kejii)

397 Moose have been monitoring us for a long time. Some of them say we are progessing too fast. For now no decision has been made.

Posted by: eman at November 28, 2015 08:05 PM (MQEz6)

398 There wolf.

Posted by: Eyegore at November 28, 2015 08:09 PM (FkBIv)

399 FCF, daughter is also a full time college student while also being a mom and wife and working 40 hours per week?

Posted by: chemjeff at November 28, 2015 08:09 PM (uZNvH)

400 really fucking slow.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 08:10 PM (vb33c)

401 daughter is also a full time college student while also being a mom and wife and working 40 hours per week? Posted by: chemjeff at November 29, 2015 01:09 AM (uZNvH) you have a daughter?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 08:10 PM (vb33c)

402 1) Casino Royale 2) From Russia With Love 3) Skyfall 4) Goldeneye

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 28, 2015 08:10 PM (VdICR)

403 you have a daughter?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 29, 2015 01:10 AM (vb33c)


no, asking about FCF's daughter

Posted by: chemjeff at November 28, 2015 08:11 PM (uZNvH)

404 1) Casino Royale 2) From Russia With Love 3) Skyfall 4) Goldeneye Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 29, 2015 01:10 AM (VdICR) very interesting. I agree with your number 2 but not so keen on your 1 and 3 picks.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 08:12 PM (vb33c)

405 394 My daughter was to spend the evening with us (me keeping the 10 and 5 yr old. We wanted to take her out but finals next week plus she works 40+ hours so no real time. "Boyfreind came in with an attitude" YAY I got to drink a glass of winewith her at least (Said boyargghhh walked home in the rain *VBG*) Icing on my cake... he didnt have keys to get into the house. It just pisses me off that he couldnt relax and let her spend time here (10 blocks away) Posted by: FCF at November 29, 2015 01:02 AM (kejii) That is sad, but doesn't necessarily sound immediately dangerous. It's wonderful that you've got two grandkids only 10 blocks away.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 08:12 PM (EzgxV)

406 400 really fucking slow. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 29, 2015 01:10 AM (vb33c) So, liven it up a bit. How was your Thanksgiving?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 08:13 PM (EzgxV)

407 404 1) Casino Royale 2) From Russia With Love 3) Skyfall 4) Goldeneye Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 29, 2015 01:10 AM (VdICR) very interesting. I agree with your number 2 but not so keen on your 1 and 3 picks. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 29, 2015 01:12 AM (vb33c) What would be your top 5?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 08:14 PM (EzgxV)

408 yes chemjeff, alot of support from me but i know its an iincredible drain on her , however this douchebag she is with.... Ahh well happy birthday sugar

Posted by: FCF at November 28, 2015 08:15 PM (kejii)

409 So, liven it up a bit. How was your Thanksgiving? Posted by: cthulhu at November 29, 2015 01:13 AM (EzgxV) well I already called a guys sister a whore. how was I supposed to know he would agree with me?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 08:17 PM (vb33c)

410 @365 The first people to head out to a new star will be passed up by their grandchildren with a better drive. ------------------- I had a story idea that worked with something along those lines. A sub-FTL colony sleeper ship goes dark in transit to its destination. While it's in transit, humanity develops an FTL drive, and gets attacked by a xenocidal race of aliens. Humanity doesn't know exactly where the ship is located, but knows where it will arrive, and that it will arrive well after humanity has been wiped out by the aliens. So the humans leave some basic infrastructure in place at the destination world, and warnings about the aliens (who then for religious reasons conveniently leave the area of space that humanity lived in) so that the colonists have a chance to rebuild humanity and win the war the next time around.

Posted by: junior at November 28, 2015 08:18 PM (PVi+Q)

411 well I already called a guys sister a whore. how was I supposed to know he would agree with me? Posted by: yankeefifth It's true, but it's not her fault. She fell in with a bad crowd of Orions.

Posted by: Space Swede 6000 at November 28, 2015 08:18 PM (/oy1S)

412 And thanks for the ears/eyes Please pass on my prayers to Sherry and BB

Posted by: FCF at November 28, 2015 08:19 PM (kejii)

413 FCF wow she hardly has any time to do anything
I am so sorry about your loss and about your douchebag son in law

Posted by: chemjeff at November 28, 2015 08:21 PM (uZNvH)

414 Goodnight all. Great chat tonight, thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2015 08:21 PM (ntObR)

415 very interesting. I agree with your number 2 but not so keen on your 1 and 3 picks. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 29, 2015 01:12 AM (vb33c) What would be your top 5? Posted by: cthulhu at November 29, 2015 01:14 AM (EzgxV) Well, I am not sure. It is an interesting question because as you get older and gain perspective your appreciation of bond movies changes. Everyone kind of has an affinity for the Bond they grow up with but as they age they outgrow their Bond or get a greater appreciation of the Bond franchise and the actors that portrayed him. I grew up in between Moore and Dalton, initialli I liked Moore more than Dalton. Never cared for Brosnan when he was Bond, but I like him more now.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 08:23 PM (vb33c)

416 chemjeff, there are many morons I would like to introduce her to but according to my grandson the asshole screens her messages

Posted by: FCF at November 28, 2015 08:24 PM (kejii)

417 408 yes chemjeff, alot of support from me but i know its an iincredible drain on her , however this douchebag she is with.... Ahh well happy birthday sugar Posted by: FCF at November 29, 2015 01:15 AM (kejii) If I can add some comment -- I don't remember my 30th birthday as being worthy of note.....but I do remember my 40th, because I said, "goddamit, I want a doctor who knows his ass from a hole in the ground" and changed a bunch of medical things. My new primary care doctor sent me in for a sleep study that diagnosed serious obstructive sleep apnea and the treatment totally changed my life for the better. My new LASIK meant that I could see 24/7 for the first time in my life. And my new regular medications gives me some hope that I won't randomly drop dead for a while. The broader point is that a 30th birthday sounds more important than it is -- 'cause 30 is just a number. But any birthday (or other calendar day) where your daughter decides to make a difference can be very memorable, indeed.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 08:26 PM (EzgxV)

418 clarify grandson does not equal asshole (anymore than most ten year olds)

Posted by: FCF at November 28, 2015 08:26 PM (kejii)

419 5) On Her Majesty's Secret Service None of Roger Moore's rate in the top five.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 28, 2015 08:27 PM (VdICR)

420 Top-quarter?

It's a Saturday ONT, and you want us to do math?

OK, Goldeneye was not as good as any Connery Bond flick. (how many was that? subtract total-x)

Goldeneye was not as good as On Her Majesty's Secret Service (Telly Savalas! '60s hotties! Alps! Diana Rigg!) (total-x-1)

Goldeneye was not as good as Octopussy, The Spy Who Loved Me, For Your Eyes Only, or A View to Kill.

(total-x-1-4)

Goldeneye was arguably better than any of the Dalton movies, however partial to Carey Lowell I might be.

still  (total-x-1-4)

Goldeneye cannot compare to Casino Royale or Skyfall

(total-x-1-4-2)

hypothesis ... if 0.75> ((total-(x-7))/total) where x = the Connery films, you are correct.

Posted by: BEDMAS, I think at November 28, 2015 08:27 PM (ftJ4J)

421 415 very interesting. I agree with your number 2 but not so keen on your 1 and 3 picks. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 29, 2015 01:12 AM (vb33c) What would be your top 5? Posted by: cthulhu at November 29, 2015 01:14 AM (EzgxV) Well, I am not sure. It is an interesting question because as you get older and gain perspective your appreciation of bond movies changes. Everyone kind of has an affinity for the Bond they grow up with but as they age they outgrow their Bond or get a greater appreciation of the Bond franchise and the actors that portrayed him. I grew up in between Moore and Dalton, initialli I liked Moore more than Dalton. Never cared for Brosnan when he was Bond, but I like him more now. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 29, 2015 01:23 AM (vb33c) I grew up with the Connery Bonds, and was rudely shoved into Roger Moore........and, really, never made it back. I've probably seen less than 50% of them, now.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 08:30 PM (EzgxV)

422 well good night all, getting sleepy
FCF I hope you and your family can find a bit of peace, sorry that things are going so crummy for you in this holiday season

Posted by: chemjeff at November 28, 2015 08:31 PM (uZNvH)

423 Cthulhu, I agree, I just hope she doesnt wasnt to wait too long to change

Posted by: FCF at November 28, 2015 08:33 PM (kejii)

424 I am off too, thanks for the support! Sweet dreams

Posted by: FCF at November 28, 2015 08:34 PM (kejii)

425 Re FTL: Unpossible. Consider these three things:

1: Causality

2: Relativity

3: Faster than Light travel or even communication

Pick any two. You can't have all three together. 1) and 2) are pretty firmly established. 2) is about the nature of this thing we can spacetime, and if it's wrong, the nature has gone to a lot of trouble to fool us. It would be maliciously deceptive. And without 1), well, reality itself is a contradiction.

 Now, General Relativity has some tricks, (but there never is any FTL, that is something moving faster than a null path -- it's just that null paths can be very strange compared to flat spacetime), but causality is always the killer.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 28, 2015 08:36 PM (dvuhZ)

426 It's a Saturday ONT, and you want us to do math? OK, Goldeneye was not as good as any Connery Bond flick. (how many was that? subtract total-x) Goldeneye was not as good as On Her Majesty's Secret Service (Telly Savalas! '60s hotties! Alps! Diana Rigg!) (total-x-1) Goldeneye was not as good as Octopussy, The Spy Who Loved Me, For Your Eyes Only, or A View to Kill. (total-x-1-4) Goldeneye was arguably better than any of the Dalton movies, however partial to Carey Lowell I might be. still (total-x-1-4) Goldeneye cannot compare to Casino Royale or Skyfall (total-x-1-4-2) hypothesis ... if 0.75> ((total-(x-7))/total) where x = the Connery films, you are correct. Posted by: BEDMAS, I think at November 29, 2015 01:27 AM (ftJ4J) you are confusing who was best bond wit best movies. connery was probably the best bond but not all of his movies were great, especially not great bond movies. You only Live Twice was not especially good. Moore was a good Bond, though no Connery, but a lot of his movies were crap through no fault of his own. psychics, voodoo, trains, jaws, and running across alligator heads are not really the stuff of Bond. Moonraker and Octopussy were plain old stupid. Casino Royale and Skyfall are not inkeeping with Bond, not enough violence and Bond is wussified. Skyfall is too bleak for a Bond movie.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 08:39 PM (vb33c)

427 Re FTL: Unpossible. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) I'm no expert, but I believe that "faster than light" is just a name and any FTL travel would involve bending space-time while the craft stays stationary, which would give the appearance of faster than light travel.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 08:41 PM (/oy1S)

428 I'm no expert, but I believe that "faster than light" is just a name and any FTL travel would involve bending space-time while the craft stays stationary, which would give the appearance of faster than light travel. Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 29, 2015 01:41 AM (/oy1S) from my understanding it less of a bend and more of a twist, maybe a shimmy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 08:43 PM (vb33c)

429 426 It's a Saturday ONT, and you want us to do math? OK, Goldeneye was not as good as any Connery Bond flick. (how many was that? subtract total-x) Goldeneye was not as good as On Her Majesty's Secret Service (Telly Savalas! '60s hotties! Alps! Diana Rigg!) (total-x-1) Goldeneye was not as good as Octopussy, The Spy Who Loved Me, For Your Eyes Only, or A View to Kill. (total-x-1-4) Goldeneye was arguably better than any of the Dalton movies, however partial to Carey Lowell I might be. still (total-x-1-4) Goldeneye cannot compare to Casino Royale or Skyfall (total-x-1-4-2) hypothesis ... if 0.75> ((total-(x-7))/total) where x = the Connery films, you are correct. Posted by: BEDMAS, I think at November 29, 2015 01:27 AM (ftJ4J) you are confusing who was best bond wit best movies. connery was probably the best bond but not all of his movies were great, especially not great bond movies. You only Live Twice was not especially good. Moore was a good Bond, though no Connery, but a lot of his movies were crap through no fault of his own. psychics, voodoo, trains, jaws, and running across alligator heads are not really the stuff of Bond. Moonraker and Octopussy were plain old stupid. Casino Royale and Skyfall are not inkeeping with Bond, not enough violence and Bond is wussified. Skyfall is too bleak for a Bond movie. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 29, 2015 01:39 AM (vb33c) I actually consider Never Say Never to be a strong Bond flick.....despite being Thunderball II. And The Saint just never had the brutal "I can beat your confession out of you, laugh, then shoot you" that Bond needs.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 08:45 PM (EzgxV)

430 If I had to cast Bond, I would only look at actors with villain roles on their cv. Which counts against Roger Moore and in favor of Timothy Dalton.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 28, 2015 08:45 PM (VdICR)

431 Wasn't "The FTL Twist" a song Judy Jetson listened to? By The Big Dipper.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 08:45 PM (/oy1S)

432 427: Those are some of the GR tricks I was talking about. See the Aculbierre "warp drive" as a famous example. The trouble with these things is they require stuff dubbe "exotic matter", involving negative mass and energy, and usually lots of it. And they all involve some problems with quantum field theory.  General Relativity and Quatum theory have never been unified, and it looks like they won't any time soon, unfortunately. GR just doesn't want to quantitize.

       That is if you try to apply quantum theory, asking, okay what happens to any real matter and energy that tries to go through these exotic "warp field" spacetimes, what happens? And the answers are problematic. You get things like energy densities blowing up and other problems.

       

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 28, 2015 08:47 PM (dvuhZ)

433 You only Live Twice was not especially good.

You Only Live Twice not especially good? What?

Rockets! Secret volcano lair! Ninjas!  NINJA ASSAULT INTO A SECRET VOLCANO LAIR!!!

Not especially good!???

I'll admit I'm especially partial because it was the first Bond movie I saw mostly-all-the-way-through on a lazy summer Saturday afternoon, but come on.

Volcano lair!

How did Goldeneye top any of that?

Posted by: There is no possible way I will be persuaded, but I'm still interested in your argument at November 28, 2015 08:47 PM (ftJ4J)

434 428 I'm no expert, but I believe that "faster than light" is just a name and any FTL travel would involve bending space-time while the craft stays stationary, which would give the appearance of faster than light travel. Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 29, 2015 01:41 AM (/oy1S) from my understanding it less of a bend and more of a twist, maybe a shimmy. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 29, 2015 01:43 AM (vb33c) There are no current theories (AFAIK) to allow FTL in observable dimensions. OTOH, there are several theories in Physics that postulate other dimensions. Accordingly, any plausible FTL transport would involve isolating a pocket XYZ+T, moving it along dimension Q, and re-melding it.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 08:50 PM (EzgxV)

435 My daughter outdid herself Thanksgiving Day. Couldn't ask for a better b-day present.

Posted by: SMFH at November 28, 2015 08:52 PM (zyIlW)

436 Connery: 1) From Russia With Love 2) Goldfinger 3) You Only Live Twice 4) Dr No 5) Thunderball 6) Never Say Never Again 7) Diamonds are Forever

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 28, 2015 08:52 PM (VdICR)

437 I seem to remember a couple of years ago some scientists said they came up with a workable formula for bending space-time for FTL travel, but the hitch was it required the entire energy output of the Earth for a billion years to work. I have been drinking so I could be wrong.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 08:54 PM (/oy1S)

438 430 If I had to cast Bond, I would only look at actors with villain roles on their cv. Which counts against Roger Moore and in favor of Timothy Dalton. Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 29, 2015 01:45 AM (VdICR) Somewhere around this dump, I have "The James Bond Diaries" by Roger Moore. He was slugging down Calso mineral water during the making of Live and Let Die. Mineral Water. Zero proof.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 08:54 PM (EzgxV)

439 And many of these exotic spacetimes are found to involve closed time like curves, which cause causality violations. They argue about this stuff a lot -- I think I read someone claiming they would form in the Alcubierre spacetime, but I'm not sure.

    And another one, involving an Alcubierre like "warp" spacetime, was the vexing problem of a signal from inside the "bubble" taking an infinite amount of time to get to the region where the exotic matter was generating the field. That is, you couldn't ever stop it once you managed to get it started.

       At any rate, all of this stuff is so far beyond anything we're capable of doing now, it's like cavemen talking about going to the Moon. We'd have to be at the "Type II" civilization level (energy output on the order of a star) to even think about it.

   At it's not just outputing that much power. It's *controlling it*. Your "engine" is going to have power level output equal to the Sun. If not a few orders of magnitude greater.

      

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 28, 2015 08:55 PM (dvuhZ)

440 How did Goldeneye top any of that? Posted by: There is no possible way I will be persuaded, but I'm still interested in your argument at November 29, 2015 01:47 AM (ftJ4J) well, you have to keep in mind all of the essential elements, villains, villainettes, gadgets, travel, violence, bond girls. In Golden Eye the villainette was hot, the bond girl was hot, and both knew their place in the movie and as actresses; they were both lucky to be there and should look hot and do as told.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 08:55 PM (vb33c)

441 435 My daughter outdid herself Thanksgiving Day. Couldn't ask for a better b-day present. Posted by: SMFH at November 29, 2015 01:52 AM (zyIlW) Which daughter? Is this an incident I already know about, or a different one?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 08:56 PM (EzgxV)

442 And many of these exotic spacetimes are found to involve closed time like curves, which cause causality violations. They argue about this stuff a lot -- I think I read someone claiming they would form in the Alcubierre spacetime, but I'm not sure. And another one, involving an Alcubierre like "warp" spacetime, was the vexing problem of a signal from inside the "bubble" taking an infinite amount of time to get to the region where the exotic matter was generating the field. That is, you couldn't ever stop it once you managed to get it started. At any rate, all of this stuff is so far beyond anything we're capable of doing now, it's like cavemen talking about going to the Moon. We'd have to be at the "Type II" civilization level (energy output on the order of a star) to even think about it. At it's not just outputing that much power. It's *controlling it*. Your "engine" is going to have power level output equal to the Sun. If not a few orders of magnitude greater. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 29, 2015 01:55 AM (dvuhZ) so are you discussing Bond or FTL?

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 08:57 PM (vb33c)

443 My daughter outdid herself Thanksgiving Day. Couldn't ask for a better b-day present. Posted by: SMFH at November 29, 2015 01:52 AM (zyIlW) well, that's the difference between us. maybe another one.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 08:58 PM (vb33c)

444 oh yeah, as Bond movies go, I have never gone into one not wanting to like it, indeed hoping it was the greatest movie ever.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 08:59 PM (vb33c)

445 Bond movies have a formula they are supposed to follow.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 09:00 PM (vb33c)

446 >>>I seem to remember a couple of years ago some scientists said they came up with a workable formula for bending space-time for FTL travel, but the hitch was it required the entire energy output of the Earth for a billion years to work. I have been drinking so I could be wrong.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 29, 2015 01:54 AM (/oy1S)<<<



**squirt**

Posted by: the EPA, calculating the tax it could levy on that at November 28, 2015 09:00 PM (AJkxb)

447 CERN already established that all you need for FTL travel or communications is a loose cable. It's just that easy. This also means that most older Jags should have no problem achieving FTL speeds.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 09:00 PM (zc3Db)

448 so in the pantheon of bond movies where do y'all rank golden eye. I would put it in the top quarter. opening sequence alone is pretty good.


Posted by: yankeefifth at November 29, 2015 01:05 AM



I rate Goldeneye pretty damn high. Top 5 at least... maybe top 3. As a Bond fan from the 60's and picky about the movies, I want to say that it sucks and is no match for the classics. But, I can't. It would be a lie. It rocked. It was a great blend of everything I wanted from a Bond flick. They haven't come close to matching it since then.

Posted by: otho at November 28, 2015 09:01 PM (EWg9n)

449 no part of the Bond formula involves bond getting tied to a chair and having his nuts pounded into mush by another guy.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 09:01 PM (vb33c)

450 This also means that most older Jags should have no problem achieving FTL speeds. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair Provided you could get them off the lift at the mechanics, which is a pretty big if.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 09:02 PM (/oy1S)

451 CERN already established that all you need for FTL travel or communications is a loose cable. It's just that easy.
This also means that most older Jags should have no problem achieving FTL speeds.


One day we'll catch up with all those Jags that have already made the jump.  Will make for one hell of a meteor shower.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 28, 2015 09:02 PM (YJmuy)

452 My b-day was on Thanksgiving, and my oldest daughter did all the cooking.

Posted by: SMFH at November 28, 2015 09:04 PM (zyIlW)

453 Pierce Brosnan: 1) Goldeneye 2) The World is Not Enough 3) Tommorrow Never Dies 4) Die Another Day Daniel Craig: 1) Casino Royale 2) Skyfall 3) Spectre 4) Quantuum of Solace

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 28, 2015 09:04 PM (VdICR)

454 447: I remember the hoopla about that, and lot of hopeful people orgasming all over each about it. I remember throwing cold water on some of these people, telling them it was 99.9999999% certain to be some sort of error.

      If faster than light neutrinos existed, it would mean nature was actually deceptive. Not just subtle, but deceptive.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 28, 2015 09:05 PM (dvuhZ)

455 no part of the Bond formula involves bond getting tied to a chair and having his nuts pounded into mush by another guy.

Mebbe, but it's a very painful-to-read part of the first Bond novel.

Posted by: he invents a good cocktail in the end, so all ends well at November 28, 2015 09:06 PM (ftJ4J)

456 My b-day was on Thanksgiving, and my oldest daughter did all the cooking.

Please accept my belated wishes for a happy birthday. 

Or store them in the freezer for next year.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 28, 2015 09:06 PM (YJmuy)

457 It was a very nice one, Blanco, thank you.

Posted by: SMFH at November 28, 2015 09:07 PM (zyIlW)

458 Mebbe, but it's a very painful-to-read part of the first Bond novel. Posted by: he invents a good cocktail in the end, so all ends well at November 29, 2015 02:06 AM (ftJ4J) really? I have only read a few of the novels. Bond is a rare instance where the movies are better than the books, at least those i have read.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 09:08 PM (vb33c)

459 If faster than light neutrinos existed, it would mean nature was actually deceptive. Not just subtle, but deceptive. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) Deceptive? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Higgs-Clinton Particle at November 28, 2015 09:09 PM (/oy1S)

460 I rate Goldeneye pretty damn high. Top 5 at least... maybe top 3. As a Bond fan from the 60's and picky about the movies, I want to say that it sucks and is no match for the classics. But, I can't. It would be a lie. It rocked. It was a great blend of everything I wanted from a Bond flick. They haven't come close to matching it since then. Posted by: otho at November 29, 2015 02:01 AM (EWg9n) A gentleman and a scholar.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 09:09 PM (vb33c)

461 Night all. Here is "Butterfly Bleu" by Iron Butterfly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1JvnSGAVFo

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 28, 2015 09:11 PM (vBeA5)

462 so in the pantheon of bond movies where do y'all rank golden eye. I would put it in the top quarter. opening sequence alone is pretty good.



Posted by: yankeefifth at November 29, 2015 01:05 AM


Oh, and the opening killed. Seeing that shit on the big screen, followed by the kickass theme song, all I could say was... "wow".

Posted by: otho at November 28, 2015 09:12 PM (EWg9n)

463 445 Bond movies have a formula they are supposed to follow. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 29, 2015 02:00 AM (vb33c) Bond movies have had SEVERAL formulas they were supposed to follow, and for a while the PC changes were seriously impacting them. Bond is a badass. He kills people to earn his keep; he tortures people when it will give him a momentary advantage; he lies, cheats, seduces, and terrorizes according to a strict "fuck the wogs" moral code. That's not to say he's racist -- his grief at the death of Quarrel in Dr. No is sincere -- but there are those on his team........and others. You could contrast this with the current MSM story that "refugees" who aren't refugees, "from Syria" who are from somewhere else, "women and children" who are military-aged, "need resettlement" when they need arms to resist at home.....

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 09:12 PM (EzgxV)

464 Here is "Butterfly Bleu" by Iron Butterfly: Posted by: The Political Hat Butterfly Bleu... He needed the money OH!

Posted by: Andrew "Dice" Clay at November 28, 2015 09:13 PM (/oy1S)

465 >>>My b-day was on Thanksgiving, and my oldest daughter did all the cooking.

Posted by: SMFH at November 29, 2015 02:04 AM (zyIlW)<<<



Ah. Happy b-day. Mine was on Turkey Day last year (day after this year).


No kids to cook for me, but luckily, mom enjoys (and excels at) that kind of thing.

Posted by: another November Moron at November 28, 2015 09:13 PM (AJkxb)

466 so, SMFH is a sagittarius? explains a lot indeed.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 09:13 PM (vb33c)

467 449 no part of the Bond formula involves bond getting tied to a chair and having his nuts pounded into mush by another guy. Posted by: yankeefifth at November 29, 2015 02:01 AM (vb33c) It's canon (read all the Bond books).

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 09:14 PM (EzgxV)

468 If faster than light neutrinos existed, it would mean nature was actually deceptive. Not just subtle, but deceptive. Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 29, 2015 02:05 AM (dvuhZ) I don't put deception past Nature. She can be a real, nasty, emotional bitch at times. I think that Quantum theory is proof of that (giving quantum the benefit of the doubt). But I doubt that a bunch of mid-level yahoos at CERN would be the ones finding it out. I'm surprised none of them killed themselves. That was one of the most embarrassing, silly, ridiculous scientific claims publicly made ... ever. I don't know that I could show my face in public after having done something so stupid as that. That is pretty much the most humiliating thing a physicist could do .... and to have it carried in headlines around the world ... Sheesh.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 09:14 PM (zc3Db)

469 452 My b-day was on Thanksgiving, and my oldest daughter did all the cooking. Posted by: SMFH at November 29, 2015 02:04 AM (zyIlW) Happy belated b'day SMFH!!!! I think you even mentioned that, but my head's been so fucked-up lately I couldn't even process it timely.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 09:15 PM (EzgxV)

470 The latest episode of Dr Who was very good, and I'm beginning to really like Capaldi. Otherwise Tennent is my favorite.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 28, 2015 09:16 PM (VdICR)

471 I agree completely. It was an all out effort with tina turner singing, bono and his team arranging, soviet imagery. It was one of the best Bond openings from the time he blasts through the gate until he pulls the plane out of the dive and flies by the exploding weapons facility.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 09:18 PM (vb33c)

472 Here's a refreshing change of pace -- a female star who, when egged on by a reporter to whine about how men get paid more than women, instead confesses that she actually gets a better deal and gets paid MORE than men of her level would!: http://en.chessbase.com/post/an-interview-with-dronavalli-harika-1-2 The background: Top-level chess, like top-level tennis or golf, is usually segregated into a men's circuit and a women's circuit because (everyone knows but it's not cool to admit it publicly) 95% of the time the top women cannot compete on the top men's level. The top male chess players are rated around 2800. But the top women chess players are rated about 2600 -- which in chess is a huge difference. There are literally thousands of run-of-the-mill random male chess grandmasters who are rated around 2600 and could easily beat literally every female contestant in the Women's World Championship. BUT...a woman grandmaster rated, say, 2500, playing in an elite women's tournament, would get a nice juicy "appearance fee" and compete for much bigger prizes than would a male grandmaster rated 2500. In fact, a male rated 2500 would almost NEVER be offered ANY appearance fee, because he's just not in the elite class (for men). And he'd have to compete in smaller tournaments with lesser prizes than are offered to females of the exact same rating. Anyway, The Narrative must be promoted despite these facts, so a German reporter interviewing a female Indian chess grandmaster asked this question and got this response: "Reporter: Let’s talk about appearance fees. Grandmasters usually get appearance fees and have their expenses paid. But do male players and female players get different appearance fees? Do you think appearance fees for women are not high enough? Harika: Maybe I am not the right person to ask. My priority is mainly to be able to play in a strong tournament with good playing conditions. I am happy and content because I am able to do that. To be honest, in many tournaments I get much better conditions than a male player with a rating that is similar to mine or even much better because I am a female player." Whoa! I'm stunned. She admitted the truth. An female professional in the US would have taken the opportunity to whine about sexism and old-boy's-club and glass ceilings and unequal treatment.

Posted by: zombie at November 28, 2015 09:18 PM (jBuUi)

473 Also, Goldeneye has a smoking hot Famke Janssen as the evil Bond-girl.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 09:19 PM (/oy1S)

474 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 28, 2015 09:21 PM (YJmuy)

475 468: "Deceptive" is the only word I could think of to try to mean what I'm thinking, but it doesn't quite do it.  The rule has been one of limits.

     Take Newton. Newton is wrong, but Newton is just the low energy, weak field limit of what replace it, GR and Quantum Theory. Presumably, those aren't the final words either, and they will be the limit of a new theory.

   By deceptive, I mean a violation of that weak field limit rule. Something happens that actually contradicts the weak field limit.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 28, 2015 09:22 PM (dvuhZ)

476 Imma just let people believe they have the universe entirely figured out.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 09:23 PM (bLnSU)

477 The only Faster-Than-Light travel my craft has done has been while approaching a regulatory signal, when the spectrum is shifting from green through the yellow band to red. The craft naturally accelerates to the optimum speed to avoid the spectrum transition.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at November 28, 2015 09:25 PM (KG0mU)

478 476 Imma just let people believe they have the universe entirely figured out. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 29, 2015 02:23 AM (bLnSU) I won't pretend that it's all figured out......but I will swap cheat codes.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 09:25 PM (EzgxV)

479 Sure, I don't even remember the Bond girl from You Only Live Twice.

OTOH, I don't remember what Bond was after in Goldeneye.

Sean Bean wanted to make sure Napoleon didn't break through the 95th Rifles line at Ferrol , I'll bet.

VOLCANO LAIR WITH ROCKETS AND NINJAS.

Posted by: beep boop there were satellites involved, I'll wager at November 28, 2015 09:27 PM (ftJ4J)

480 Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at November 29, 2015 02:22 AM (dvuhZ) I think the word you were looking for is "dishonest".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at November 28, 2015 09:28 PM (zc3Db)

481 I agree completely. It was an all out effort with tina turner singing, bono and his team arranging, soviet imagery. It was one of the best Bond openings from the time he blasts through the gate until he pulls the plane out of the dive and flies by the exploding weapons facility.


Posted by: yankeefifth at November 29, 2015 02:18 AM


Hell, I'll say it... it was THE best opening in a Bond flick. Ever. The song remains in my top 3, also. Joe Don Baker, Famke Janssen, Robbie Coltrane and Sean Fucking Bean as the bad guy. Even what's his face as Boris worked for me. Judy Dench I don't rate as M... but, she's not in it much, so screw it.  Brosnan gets heavy points as Bond for Goldeneye alone.

Posted by: otho at November 28, 2015 09:30 PM (EWg9n)

482 "so, SMFH is a sagittarius? explains a lot indeed." ------------ Care to elaborate, yankeefifth?

Posted by: SMFH at November 28, 2015 09:32 PM (zyIlW)

483 Care to elaborate, yankeefifth? Posted by: SMFH at November 29, 2015 02:32 AM (zyIlW) you're a sagittarius, you know what I mean.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 09:34 PM (vb33c)

484 482 "so, SMFH is a sagittarius? explains a lot indeed." ------------ Care to elaborate, yankeefifth? Posted by: SMFH at November 29, 2015 02:32 AM (zyIlW) Sadly, I exemplify every calumny about Scorpios.....

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 09:35 PM (EzgxV)

485 Posted by: otho Same guy that was Boris was Nightcrawler in the X-Men movies. Now I'll have to look it up.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 09:35 PM (/oy1S)

486 GoldenEye also spawned what has to be one of the best movie related video games ever...

... GoldenEye for the N64.

Posted by: remembers killing lots of time, and opponents in the 4 player dplit screen death match at November 28, 2015 09:37 PM (AJkxb)

487 My one maybe complaint regarding Goldeneye is that Bond offed xenia onatopp, I am pretty sure all she needed in order to see and mend error of her ways was a lot of spanking over a long weekend.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 09:37 PM (vb33c)

488 Alan Cumming. He was Boris in Goldeneye and Nightcrawler in the X-Men movies.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 09:37 PM (/oy1S)

489 I won't pretend that it's all figured out......but I will swap cheat codes. Posted by: cthulhu at November 29, 2015 02:25 AM (EzgxV) Oh, sure. I tell you, you tell somebody else, next thing you know we're hip-deep in calorie-free donuts and beer.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 09:38 PM (bLnSU)

490 Oh, sure. I tell you, you tell somebody else, next thing you know we're hip-deep in calorie-free donuts and beer. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 09:39 PM (/oy1S)

491 489 I won't pretend that it's all figured out......but I will swap cheat codes. Posted by: cthulhu at November 29, 2015 02:25 AM (EzgxV) Oh, sure. I tell you, you tell somebody else, next thing you know we're hip-deep in calorie-free donuts and beer. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 29, 2015 02:38 AM (bLnSU) Not to mention ways of appearing light-years away in nanoseconds.....

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 09:40 PM (EzgxV)

492 GoldenEye also spawned what has to be one of the best movie related video games ever... ... GoldenEye for the N64. Posted by: remembers killing lots of time, and opponents in the 4 player dplit screen death match at November 29, 2015 02:37 AM (AJkxb) Nicole Scherzinger is the lady singing the theme song for the video game, she is almost as hot as Famke Janssen.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 09:41 PM (vb33c)

493 The cheat code I used to make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs was control+alt+delete. Go ahead, try it.

Posted by: Han Solo at November 28, 2015 09:42 PM (/oy1S)

494 Alan Cumming. He was Boris in Goldeneye and Nightcrawler in the X-Men movies.


Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 29, 2015 02:37 AM


That's the guy. I couldn't help but like Boris. He had a great, tongue-in-cheek, Bond style weasel thing going on.

Posted by: otho at November 28, 2015 09:44 PM (EWg9n)

495 well, alright then, glad we got that Goldeneye is clearly one of the best Bond movies, definitely in top quarter ever thing straightened out. Night everyone.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 28, 2015 09:45 PM (vb33c)

496 You say that like it's a bad thing. Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 29, 2015 02:39 AM (/oy1S) Well, firstly you're wading in your food. Secondly, everyone else is wading in your food. Thirdly, every living thing gets drunk and then starves to death trying to stay drunk. So, couple of problems.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 09:47 PM (bLnSU)

497 Not to mention ways of appearing light-years away in nanoseconds..... Posted by: cthulhu at November 29, 2015 02:40 AM (EzgxV) Spoilers.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith[/i][/b][/s][/u] at November 28, 2015 09:48 PM (bLnSU)

498 >>>Nicole Scherzinger is the lady singing the theme song for the video game, she is almost as hot as Famke Janssen.

Posted by: yankeefifth at November 29, 2015 02:41 AM (vb33c)<<<



Ah, yes, the Pussycat Doll. But that wasn't the N64 version. That poor cartridge wouldn't have been able to handle that.

Posted by: here, kitty kitty at November 28, 2015 09:48 PM (AJkxb)

499 So, couple of problems. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith Well...when you put it that way.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 09:53 PM (/oy1S)

500 sup horde

Posted by: thathalfrican at November 28, 2015 09:57 PM (R5HRU)

501 sup horde Posted by: thathalfrican Flash Gordon, a guy's sister is a whore, faster than light travel, and Goldeneye.

Posted by: The Thread So Far at November 28, 2015 10:01 PM (/oy1S)

502 And, apparently, everyone is on a beer run.

Posted by: The Thread So Far at November 28, 2015 10:04 PM (/oy1S)

503 Well, I dig Goldeneye like crazy. Enjoyed the movie. Spent a shit load of time playing multiplayer for the 64.

Posted by: thathalfrican at November 28, 2015 10:05 PM (R5HRU)

504 Well, I dig Goldeneye like crazy. Enjoyed the movie. Spent a shit load of time playing multiplayer for the 64. Posted by: thathalfrican That seems to be the consensus. No mention of Goldfinger in the list of great Bond flicks though. Seemed odd to me.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 10:10 PM (/oy1S)

505 to get the traction I'm riding the clutch
my pressure-plate's burning, that machine's too much

Posted by: do the shorts today talk about their ping times? at November 28, 2015 10:12 PM (ftJ4J)

506 pedals to the floor, hear his dual-quads drink ..

Posted by: is there a better line pop? the answer is no at November 28, 2015 10:17 PM (ftJ4J)

507 Y'know what I would be happy to pay money to see? A LOTR-era Peter Jackson "Lord of Light". Y'know what would make me nauseous if I spent real money for it? A Hobbit-era Peter Jackson "Lord of Light".....

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 10:18 PM (EzgxV)

508 Posted by: is there a better line pop? the answer is no I smell like I sound I'm lost and I'm found And I'm hungry like the wolf.

Posted by: Duran Duran at November 28, 2015 10:19 PM (/oy1S)

509 @453 Daniel Craig: 1) Casino Royale 2) Skyfall 3) Spectre 4) Quantuum of Solace ------------------------------ No way does Skyfall rate anything other than dead last in Craig's list. The bad guy wins. The bad guy should *never* win in a Bond movie. Period. Plus, Q's big contribution to the plot is an act so indescribably stupid that it beggars belief. Every single Bond villain briefly interrupted their "tell Bond what the scheme is" monologue to contact Q and let him know what an idiot he was.

Posted by: junior at November 28, 2015 10:23 PM (PVi+Q)

510 Posted by: cthulhu How about a Mel Gibson "Lord of Light"?

Posted by: Duran Duran at November 28, 2015 10:24 PM (/oy1S)

511 That seems to be the consensus. No mention of Goldfinger in the list of great Bond flicks though. Seemed odd to me.


Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 29, 2015 03:10 AM



It's in my top 5.

Posted by: otho at November 28, 2015 10:26 PM (EWg9n)

512 Off 80s New Wave sock.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 10:27 PM (/oy1S)

513 510 Posted by: cthulhu How about a Mel Gibson "Lord of Light"? Posted by: Duran Duran at November 29, 2015 03:24 AM (/oy1S) I don't know enough of his work. I'm referring to Zelazny's "Lord of Light" -- I really think it could be cinematic as hell if someone unwraps it correctly. Jackson's LOTR made something previously thought unfilmable into a masterwork -- he could unwrap the onion onto the screen for "Lord of Light" -- although (as demonstrated by The Hobbit) he could also make it a pageant of spectacle, uncoupled from the plot.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 28, 2015 10:33 PM (EzgxV)

514 Posted by: cthulhu I just looked it up on Wikipedia. It probably wouldn't be up Gibson's alley, even if Hollyweird gave him a chance.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 10:38 PM (/oy1S)

515 Goldeneye, my favorite Bond flick. Brosnan, best Bond actor. Yes, the Russian fighter pilot gal was hot but I preferred Natalia. Gig was a blast. 120 in a place that seats about 30-40. Good night.

Posted by: teej at November 28, 2015 10:45 PM (ijopM)

516 My favorite Bond girl has to be Sophie Marceau in The World Is Not Enough, but I have a thing for girls with a French accent. I blame Kath soucie.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 10:56 PM (/oy1S)

517 In no particular order and Thunderball being my favorite: Goldfinger Dr No From Russia With Love Casino Royale Thunderball

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at November 28, 2015 11:14 PM (iQIUe)

518 Its a good song and I have enjoyed "hearing" it. (again and again) Now I just want it out of my head. so here it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ty0BHsm8rc enjoy, and thanks for taking it away.

Posted by: somejoe at November 28, 2015 11:25 PM (vlgjM)

519 Of course Europe is stuck with candlelight vigils and hashtags. The only real solution is tell every goddamned Muzzie to get the fuck out, and there's no way they can do that. So they'll just take the abuse and slowly dwindle.

Posted by: RKae at November 28, 2015 11:29 PM (u5c0o)

520 >>>but the hitch was it required the entire energy output of the Earth for a billion years to work. I have been drinking so I could be wrong. If we could manipulate things on the order of planets and suns, then climate scientists might actually be able to carry out credible experiments that prove or disprove their beliefs about greenhouse gases. But who would want to waste an entire planet by giving it to Michael Mann to futz around with?

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 28, 2015 11:43 PM (B1TZ/)

521 But who would want to waste an entire planet by giving it to Michael Mann to futz around with? Posted by: Bruce Boehner I think the answer is obvious. Give him Uranus and he can play with his hockey stick.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at November 28, 2015 11:55 PM (/oy1S)

522 >>>The only real solution is tell every goddamned Muzzie to get the fuck out, and there's no way they can do that. It's technically possible, since they're mostly isolated in separate neighborhoods. But unthinkable to the average braindamaged liberal. That may chaned, however. >>>So they'll just take the abuse and slowly dwindle. Certainly there is the reprehensible "it probably won't happen to me" mentality. But with more attacks we will have a "6 degrees" effect. Many people will have lost friends and family in these attacks, and learn to become aware of this cowardly attitude and repudiate it.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 29, 2015 12:00 AM (B1TZ/)

523 I think the answer is obvious. Give him Uranus and he can play with his hockey stick. Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic --- He already has Mark Steyn's so he doesn't need mine.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 29, 2015 12:03 AM (B1TZ/)

524 I think Europe is done for. The slow road to full sharia law will go on. Just like us throwing illegals out is unspeakable so they will all stay and in fact that will keep them coming. They set themselves up with this EU and like all leftism laws are made but no one thinks them out for a dozen chess moves. Well it's the end of the F-1 season this morning, in Abu Dhabi, fitting. Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2015 12:32 AM (XRpjE)

525 With all respect: consider that Islam has been around more than a thousand years, on the border of Europe the whole time. It didn't just start, there are hundreds of years of precedent there, and all sorts of barbarian invasions from all sorts, constantly if you include the gypsies and others from the east. They actually have a great deal more experience dealing with all this generation after generation than folks on the other side of the world seem to realise. Meanwhile it looks from outside than you're never going to solve your black and mexican problems, and you just keep moving from state to state to put off dealing with them. Europeans on the other hand, tend to stay in the place of their ancestors. It's a whole different mindset, some quick fix is not the answer. There may be a lot of mutual incomprehension, aided by language and translation problems (it's great that Ace knows French, but he still find its hard to figure out some reports as to what is actually happening for example).

Posted by: bruce at November 29, 2015 12:47 AM (E+ah4)

526 So maybe my last chance at meeting a nice girl, before they are all dead or in harems, will be to grow a beard, don a burnous gown, and pretend to be an angry, aggrieved Muzzie ahole. They will fold with sympathy and guilt before my ruse. ugh. OTOH, (and admittedly this is anecdotal) there was the report of the Italian woman raped by a "refugee" who was pressured to keep silent about it by her pro-immigrant group, but eventually reported it and exposed the group. When it becomes personal enough, maybe people will come to their senses and stop being such passive suicidal dupes.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 29, 2015 12:58 AM (B1TZ/)

527 >>>Europeans on the other hand, tend to stay in the place of their ancestors. It's a whole different mindset, some quick fix is not the answer. There may be a lot of mutual incomprehension But they are not behaving as before. They are not repelling the invasion. They are dying out by attrition in the place of their ancestors. There may or may not be a quick fix, but they do not seem to be implementing any sort of fix. That is what is so sad.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at November 29, 2015 01:12 AM (B1TZ/)

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