July 30, 2006

Online Gambling Law
— LauraW.

In the State of Washington. This is worrisome.

The new law echoes a federal law that already makes Internet gambling illegal and upped the crime to a felony.

I was told about this law yesterday by this fellow, who knows a thing or two about gambling. Some internet poker sites have already revamped to exclude U.S. players.
The Poker Players Alliance is a non-profit Las Vegas-based lobbying group that formed a few months ago with the primary purpose of combating an online betting ban under way in Congress. It is gaining membership and some measure of respect. They keep their members informed on the latest news concerning legislation that affects online poker. If you play poker online they need your support to help with the lobbying efforts to fight the ban on Internet Poker.

Personally, I don't care a whit one way or the other about online gambling. But there's a free speech issue crystallizing at the heart of this thing. The verbiage used by politicians is infuriating and discouraging.
Rick Day, director of the Washington State Gambling Commission, said most people don't need to worry. The state isn't out to get gambling aficionados who blog about casinos or post tips on how to beat the dealer at blackjack, he said.

But he said links or references to online gambling conceivably could spell trouble for Web site owners[emphasis me].

One fellow whose website only reviewed online gambling sites has already shut down. There was never any betting at his site.

Posted by: LauraW. at 07:03 AM | Comments (23)
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1 Bumping my post from the top spot was not a very civil act, LauraW.

But I will refrain from accusing you of any malice or ill intentions in your act. Even if said accusations were, in fact, proven to be meritorious.

Perchance, will you be offering us any further glimpses of your petry today, LauraW? We do so enjoy reading it.

Posted by: Jack M. at July 30, 2006 07:08 AM (YpIcX)

2 Petry* is, of course, supposed to be "poetry".

I did, however, manage to place most of the other letters in their correct positions.

Posted by: Jack M. at July 30, 2006 07:10 AM (YpIcX)

3 Uggh! Double post. Hate it when it does that.

Posted by: lauraw at July 30, 2006 07:13 AM (wKh5O)

4 I unpublished one of them for you.   (Still there if you need to edit it, just in draft mode.)

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 30, 2006 07:18 AM (rqPrl)

5

Thanks Pixy!


I'll go in and delete it.


Posted by: lauraw at July 30, 2006 07:23 AM (CJ5+Y)

6 yeesh. never mind, what a pain.

Posted by: lauraw at July 30, 2006 07:27 AM (wKh5O)

7 maybe I'm retarded but I suspect casinos are behind this kind of legislation.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at July 30, 2006 07:37 AM (wQVZr)

8 I think there's little question about it, Dave.  Whose interest is served by government imposing itself here?  I can't think of anyone other than the established gambling industry.  And government itself, of course.

Posted by: Brett Bullington at July 30, 2006 07:46 AM (/QYGF)

9 Dave, on the one hand, it kind of doesn't matter who's behind it. This shows just how out of touch the state of Washington is. And I'm not saying that re: gambling, but re: Laura's point regarding liberties. This should never have even gotten to the floor of the state legislature.

That said, we do have (from what I understand) the most powerful Indian tribe in the states, which owns something like 30% of downtown Tacoma. We also have like the third most powerful Indian Casino lobbying group. Whatever, they definitely throw money in directions they support.

Isn't it liberals who always claim that rethuglikkkans are the ones beholden to special interest groups?

Posted by: John at July 30, 2006 08:09 AM (30uPm)

10 The mommy squirrel doesn't want the baby squirrel to lose his nuts to the racoon.

Posted by: mick9 at July 30, 2006 08:14 AM (jHVM6)

11 http://www(dot)pdc(dot)wa(dot)gov/servlet/ContServlet

If you use the Candidate/Committee dropdown box to search for contributions to Margarita Prentice (the bill's sponsor), you will find many contributions from local tribes which run casinos in Washington.

Posted by: anotheranon at July 30, 2006 08:20 AM (lbmO+)

12 anotheranon,

Well, yeah. If you live in the state of WA, you know that tribal interests have huge influence. Outside of King County (Seattle), there are literally casinos at most prime locations. How do they get such prime locations? They had them declared reservation land, one parcel at a time.

In some ways the gambling lobby, which tends to push liberal issues in this state, has gotten the sway of most major issues. It is a problem, especially when the state decides to make up revenue shortfall on the backs of small business and individuals. Tim Eyman tried to push an initiative whereby x% of gambling revenues would offset the swelling property taxes for individuals. Lost.

Posted by: John at July 30, 2006 08:27 AM (30uPm)

13 Big Brother is controling every part of our lives soon they will say you can only eat tofu at McDolands becuase the jerks at the FDA say so and idiot groups like CSPI and PCRM will dictate our vert diets

Posted by: spurwing plover at July 30, 2006 08:32 AM (/4Knp)

14 spurwing, go here. you will not regret it!

Posted by: Dave in Texas at July 30, 2006 08:39 AM (wQVZr)

15 You people are just seeing the tip of the iceberg. There are some gambling magazines that will no longer ship to WA. addresses because the law is so poorly written.

Also, Casino Americans were behind a new law outlawing smoking in public places in the state such as restaurants, bars, and card rooms. The law states you can not smoke within 25 feet of a door or a window of these establishments. The one exception... wait for it... tribal casinos.

Posted by: Steve at July 30, 2006 08:48 AM (odT1u)

16 The Indian casinos are exempted from from the WA smoking ban because they are not obligated to follow state law. They also do not have to pay the state minimum wage ($7.63hr) or follow state rules on other employment issues. As mentioned above, the bill that made online gambling a felony equal to that of downloading child porn was sponsored and pushed by Margarita Prentice (head of the senate ways and means committee) who is wholly owned by the local indian tribes. She's been trying to drive privately owned cardrooms out of business for several years now. I've met with local legislators who regret voting for the bill due to all the heat they are taking, but I don't expect a change any time soon. As an aside, the head of the WA Gambling Commission, Rick Day, is the former head of prisons in Montana and has no understanding of gambling. This state is a flippin' mess.

Posted by: casino mgr at July 30, 2006 09:16 AM (vIarL)

17 A felony for spending your money as you choose.

God, if I think about this shit too long, my head will explode.

I'm still steamed up that my (Republican) rep voted for the federal ban on online gaming. Meanwhile, I can spend a couple hundred bucks on the ponies or pick up a lottery ticket at the local 7-11.

The cocksuckers. Special interests win the day again by legislating themselves a gaming monopoly. So much for the party of capitalism.

I used to bet the ponies every now and then just for fun, but Ohio horse racing will never see another dime from me. And Deb Pryce can eat a turd straight from my ass. Fucking twat.

And good luck on enforcing your ban.

Or taxing my winnings.

Posted by: Warden at July 30, 2006 11:32 AM (rkK3q)

18 Wasn't Laura Petry Dick van Dyke' main squeeze? What a dish, that Mary Tyler Moore.

PS Once Ace is back, I want points for most innuendos in one line ever.

Posted by: Alear at July 30, 2006 11:37 AM (eruDT)

19 A felony for spending your money as you choose.

Whoops, check that. A felony for fucking linking someone to a place where they might like to spend their own hard-earned money for entertainment or profit.

Unbelievable.

Posted by: Warden at July 30, 2006 11:53 AM (rkK3q)

20 The state gambling commission warned one of the Seattle papers that they were violating the law by publishing a weekly poker article by Daniel Negreanu since he always plugs his online sight and promotes the ability to play at the sight for FREE as a great way to learn the game. It's insane.

Posted by: casino mgr at July 30, 2006 02:34 PM (vIarL)

21 Just as long as they don't outlaw my magazine: Smallpox Laden Blanket Quarterly.

Posted by: Bill C at July 30, 2006 05:22 PM (TCsPk)

22 I bet ya 100 clams that laraw is hotter than Jack M.

Double or nuthin in the next round.

Posted by: middleroad at July 30, 2006 07:10 PM (ftdXf)

23 Pwease dunt take my internet gamblin away! Its my favorit hobby! Wahhhhhhh!

Posted by: Duhgee at July 31, 2006 06:24 AM (BIwsj)

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