July 31, 2013

Obama's Endless Critique
— Ace

"Critique" has a specific meaning and I intend that meaning. As Marx said of his plan for an endless critique of the German social order, so as to undermine it, and permit the conditions for revolution:

War on the German state of affairs! By all means! They are below the level of history, they are beneath any criticism, but they are still an object of criticism like the criminal who is below the level of humanity but still an object for the executioner. In the struggle against that state of affairs, criticism is no passion of the head, it is the head of passion. It is not a lancet, it is a weapon. Its object is its enemy, which it wants not to refute but to exterminate. For the spirit of that state of affairs is refuted. In itself, it is no object worthy of thought, it is an existence which is as despicable as it is despised. Criticism does not need to make things clear to itself as regards this object, for it has already settled accounts with it. It no longer assumes the quality of an end-in-itself, but only of a means. Its essential pathos is indignation, its essential work is denunciation.

Italics in original but bolding added by myself.

Obama's intellectual godfather, Saul Alinsky, denied ever having been a member of the Communist Party, not out of a repudiation of its beliefs, but due to a belief that any ideology which professed to have all the answers would result in intellectual sloth and ultimately great crimes.

My point isn't so much that Obama is a Marxist per se, which people can argue about, but that he is steeped in the intellectual folkways of Marxism, a proposition that seems more difficult to deny.

And the chief tool of Marxism is critique. From his days as a college radical, to his days as a community organizer, to his incredibly brief term in the Senate where his main contribution to politics was allegedly high-minded attacks on George Bush, Obama's main -- or only -- intellectual skill has been that of critique.

Endless critique. Its essential pathos is indignation, and its essential work is denunciation.

And I mention all this because Obama, finding himself in a position of ownership of an miserable economy which only seems to be capable of horrifying us still further, per a Washington Post blogger, his primary response is indignation fueling an unceasing denunciation.

Which is strange... because it is his economy, and people generally do not indignantly denounce their own works. And yet here we are, with Obama furiously denouncing this economic enemy-of-the-state, the GDP terrorist Barack Goldstein Obama. Charles Krauthammer (video at the link):

I find it astonishing that he goes around making speeches in which he deplores the state of the economy, the growing income inequality, chronic unemployment, staggering middle class income, and it's as if he has been a bystander, as if he's been out of the country for the last five years. It's his economy; he's the president.

He's talking as if this is the Bush economy, I don't know, the Eisenhower economy, and he just arrived in a boat and he discovers how bad the economy is. This is a result of the policies he instituted. He gave us the biggest stimulus in the history of the milky way, and he said it would jump start the economy. The result has been the slowest recovery, the worst recovery since World War II, and that is the root of all of the problems he's talking about, the income inequality -- the median income of the middle class of Americans has declined by 5% in his one term. So who's responsible for that? Those were his policies. He talks about this in the abstract and he actually gets away with it in a way that I find absolutely astonishing, it's magical. This is his economy and he's pretending he's just stumbled upon it. And the policies he proposes are exactly the ones he proposed and implemented in the first term.

And yet, even so, his primary tone is indignation, and his primary message is denunciation. Rush Limbaugh:

Obama has positioned himself as an outsider…That’s one of the reasons why the constant campaign. So he doesn’t appear to be governing, so he doesn’t appear to be part of Washington. So he appears to have this mysterious, powerful bunch of forces that are opposing him and stopping him from creating jobs and stopping him from giving people proper health care…but he is constantly out there fighting.”

“And he does that by constantly campaigning and never seem to be governing."

Have I struck upon some key insight, or am I Just a Blogger (TM) looking for a quick connection between a couple of news items to churn some easy content? Well, probably a little of Column A and a lot of Column B.

Nevertheless, I don't think it's particularly debatable that Obama is only comfortable in the position of the Outsider Launching a Critique Against an Unjust System. An Unjust System, I should say, that he apparently Has Got Nothin' At All to Do With.

Even though he is, and has been, for going on six years now, the ultimate insider, the most powerful man in the world, and the Primary Economic Indicator of the United States of America, Barack Obama continues to play at the role of the Alinksyite organizer standing outside the factory and leading chants and correcting misspellings on other radicals' placards.

If one were uncharitable, one might say he does so because he never learned to actually do anything else.


Posted by: Ace at 07:16 AM | Comments (346)
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1 Boldly stated, Ace.

Cordially...

Posted by: Rick at July 31, 2013 07:19 AM (mOQjx)

2 Ever wonder why the Left won't propose a constructive alternative? This is why!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, proud OCP stockholder at July 31, 2013 07:20 AM (zUi7I)

3 Less bold as time goes on though.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 31, 2013 07:20 AM (ZPrif)

4 Oh, and I must definitely am uncharitable.

Cordially...

Posted by: Rick at July 31, 2013 07:20 AM (mOQjx)

5 De-bolded before the first comment...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, proud OCP stockholder at July 31, 2013 07:20 AM (zUi7I)

6 Rush has been calling this the Limbaugh Theorem for quite a while.

Posted by: Joe Mama at July 31, 2013 07:21 AM (2hpna)

7 Welcome to the party, pal.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 31, 2013 07:21 AM (Idczg)

8 Oh, I've no doubt TFG is a Marxist.  He was mentored by one, his daddy grandfather's friend, Frank Marshall Davis.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 31, 2013 07:21 AM (lVPtV)

9 Obama only pretends to be a Marxist; he's really a fascist.

Posted by: soothsayer went to phoenix az all the way to tacoma at July 31, 2013 07:21 AM (Fely/)

10 Presidenting is hard.

Posted by: EC at July 31, 2013 07:22 AM (GQ8sn)

11 Thus always needing a demon. Why can't GOP make the Gosnell lovers demons, pound the pics of the dead babies.

Posted by: Madamex at July 31, 2013 07:22 AM (hgiJz)

12 Pretty good analysis there Ace. It gives a good explanation for why Obama is intellectually incapable of being a good president of the USA. Of course, it would have been nice to see this kind of evaluation back in 2008 from the media.

Posted by: Harry at July 31, 2013 07:22 AM (ib4tw)

13 Call me uncharitable - Teh SCOAMT doesn't know how to be anything but a Marxist/Alinskyite.

Posted by: steveegg at July 31, 2013 07:23 AM (o44nj)

14 Exactly. Obama was told from an early age that he was "special" and his shit don't stink. I think he truly believes he is above us all...

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 31, 2013 07:23 AM (9+ccr)

15

This +1000.

 

I do wish, ace, that you often had a larger forum for your ideas.  Something like this on the Special Report panel, or as a guest interview on Rush or Hannity, would be so much more effective because it would be more likely to penetrate into the MSM and then to LIVs.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at July 31, 2013 07:23 AM (sQ0LB)

16

The sooner he   is  truly "outside" of this office, the better off we'll all be.

 

I am so tired of being pitted against my fellow countrymen - and I think  some  people on the other side of the aisle are feeling the same way.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at July 31, 2013 07:24 AM (ADnWI)

17

Obama only pretends to be a Marxist; he's really a fascist.
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Not much difference, when all is said and done.  There *are* differences, but they tend to be much more limited than the historical violence between the fascists and communists would suggest.

 

Posted by: junior at July 31, 2013 07:24 AM (UWFpX)

18 Is there any amount of wealth, privilege, and power that would prevent a black person from denouncing America is evil and racist? How many billions and how much power can one black person have before being laughed at when they cry "racism"? Obama was a rich kid prep school slacker who used his family's political connections and his skin color to jump ahead of more accomplished applicants. Oprah has billions yet daily shits on America. Oprah at least grew up modestly. Obama's pot-head days were when he skipped class to get high on the private beach at his prep school and yet he portrays it like he grew up on the set of the fucking Wire.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 31, 2013 07:24 AM (ZPrif)

19 Blamethrowing is easy work. Owning up to your responsibilities is difficult.

Posted by: EC at July 31, 2013 07:24 AM (GQ8sn)

20 speaking of critique, now that we've had a few years to collect the data, where's the analysis on the Stimulus? you'd think a $800B failure would get some attention, no?

Posted by: soothsayer went to phoenix az all the way to tacoma at July 31, 2013 07:24 AM (Zr72W)

21 It would also be nice to see some of this caliber of analysis from the opposition party, whoever that might be.

Posted by: Harry at July 31, 2013 07:24 AM (ib4tw)

22 Dispense can we with the "I'm fighting for you!" crapola spouted by the likes of Mr. Thin-skin, limp-wrist metro-prez and all of the other panty-waists in congress?

Real men, they are not.

Pretenders, they are.

Posted by: Yoda Mama at July 31, 2013 07:25 AM (2hpna)

23 Repubs can't pound the emotional hot button issues because it's considered "low-class" to do so.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 31, 2013 07:25 AM (ZPrif)

24 When is Barry gonna finish those 'reeducation' camps I told him to have built... F*cking golf.  Boy how much do I hate his privileged white half.

Posted by: Bill Ayers at July 31, 2013 07:26 AM (Pr6hk)

25 I agree with you. I believe now that losing the midterm elections in '10 was part of his plan. You can't rant about a "do nothing congress" without an opposition party.

Posted by: Lauren at July 31, 2013 07:26 AM (IzZA5)

26

Obama was told from an early age that he was "special" and his shit don't stink.

 

I think their noses were defective.  Every time they gave Me a dirty sanchez, I certainly smelled something!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at July 31, 2013 07:26 AM (ggRof)

27

Just read this after reading Ron Fournier's 3,675th attempt to convince Barack Obama to lead.  Fournier should just read this and forget about it.

 

Obama is not a leader.  He is an agitator.  Not only is it what he is best at, it is what he was put in office to do.  The anonymous "czars," the deputy assistant secretaries, the agency chief counsels, the DOJ Civil Rights Division and its 102 new left-wing lawyers -- THOSE are the people who are effecting the "change" Obama spoke about in his 2008 campaign.  Obama is the Agitator-In-Chief.  His constant agitating is designed to maintain and expand a base of voters who are low-information and easily manipulated.

 

The plan is not to abruptly overthrow our constitutional system of checks and balances and federalism.  It is to convince a permanent majority of voters to demand it.

Posted by: rockmom at July 31, 2013 07:27 AM (aBlZ1)

28 If one were uncharitable, one might say he does so because he never learned to actually do anything else.


If one were even less charitable one might say that doing nothing with the economy is precisely the plan.

Posted by: Sean Bannion[/u][/i][/s][/b] at July 31, 2013 07:27 AM (6T8Ay)

29

Obama's intellectual godfather, Saul Alinsky, denied ever having been a member of the Communist Party, not out of a repudiation of its beliefs, but due to a belief that any ideology which professed to have all the answers would result in intellectual sloth and ultimately great crimes.

 

 

So can we start telling Obammy and his minions that he's a fucking disgrace to Alinsky's name, since Obammy and his minions seem to think that THEIR beliefs and THEIR ideology are the answer to every problem in the history of ever?    Would that wake the little darlings out of their fucking stupor?   I suspect not, but it could    be a fun exercise.

 

 

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 31, 2013 07:27 AM (4df7R)

30 the most powerful man in the world As much as it pains me to say this, is that even true anymore? Whose word do you think holds more sway? TFG? Or Putin?

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 31, 2013 07:27 AM (da5Wo)

31 I am so tired of being pitted against my fellow countrymen - and I think some people on the other side of the aisle are feeling the same way.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at July 31, 2013 12:24 PM (ADnWI)



The "honest" libs who voted for this cocksucker are very unenthusiastic compared to four years ago.  They hate to admit they voted for a fraud so I doubt you'll ever get that out of them.  I'm pretty sure they'd have been willing to vote for an alternative as long as he wasn't Richie Rich Willard or any of those other fuckheads in the primary (except maybe Noot if he didn't go full retard).

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 31, 2013 07:27 AM (Idczg)

32 If one were uncharitable, one might say he does so because he never learned to actually do anything else. Hmmmm.......I'm just gonna go with "sucker of cock".

Posted by: eleven at July 31, 2013 07:28 AM (KXm42)

33

Let's face it - Obama has spent his ENTIRE life pitting  one group of people against another one so that he can just sit back and watch the chaos.  It's his "entertainment".

 

It keeps him from having to examine the empty wasteland that is his life.

 

Pathetic, really.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at July 31, 2013 07:28 AM (ADnWI)

34 If one were even less charitable one might say that doing nothing with the economy is precisely the plan. Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 31, 2013 12:27 PM (6T8Ay) Doing nothing would be a step up. Do nothing and eventually the economy can repair itself. This fucker is doing continual active damage.

Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 31, 2013 07:28 AM (da5Wo)

35 Obama only pretends to be a Marxist; he's really a fascist.

I would disagree and call him a communist.

Fascists are nationalistic Marxists.

Communists are international Marxists.

As a fascist, Obama would embrace American exceptionalism.

YMMV.  Please feel free to shoot holes in teh above.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at July 31, 2013 07:28 AM (u75NS)

36 If one were uncharitable honest, one might say he does so because he never learned to actually do anything else. FIFY.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 31, 2013 07:29 AM (pZ0pM)

37 Look at this mess!

I turn my back to go to Martha's Vineyard for FIVE MINUTES and just LOOK what you evil bad people have done to all my nice, clean economic/social/legal/foreign policy achievements.


Posted by: Barky O'Douchenugget at July 31, 2013 07:29 AM (EZl54)

38 Doing nothing would be a step up. Do nothing and eventually the economy can repair itself. This fucker is doing continual active damage. Posted by: BCochran1981 at July 31, 2013 12:28 PM (da5Wo) Right you are... See: EPA's new "chief."

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 31, 2013 07:29 AM (9+ccr)

39

If one were even less charitable one might say that doing nothing with the economy is precisely the plan.

 

Posted by: Sean Bannion at July 31, 2013 12:27 PM (6T8Ay)

 

There are limits to my lack of charity regarding Teh SCOAMT.  We're nowhere near those limits though.

Posted by: steveegg at July 31, 2013 07:29 AM (o44nj)

40 I remember some Democrat campaign consultant saying there were only two types of campaigns Democrats run -- and one was the "I'm fighting for you" campaign. The Fighting Democrat. He said that in the sense of, when the campaign starts you have to pick one big campaign and branding theme and the most successful one has historically been The Fighting Democrat. That's why it's used so often. It's the Democrat campaign consultant version of Wal-mart's Everyday Low Prices branding. And the Fighting Democrats brand lets you get away with a lot of personal foibles. Cause it's not about the candidate. So what if he has a history of sexual harassment -- it's about Fighting For You!, and sometimes it's good to have an SOB in your corner Fighting For You!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 31, 2013 07:30 AM (ZPrif)

41 Hey, SCOAMF!

FUCK.

YOU.


Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 31, 2013 07:30 AM (wtvvX)

42 #35 It is Cultural Marxism.  There is a fantastic series on YouTube that describes this movement in great detail.  Watch it, and you will instantly understand Barack Obama and everything that he does. 

Posted by: rockmom at July 31, 2013 07:30 AM (aBlZ1)

43 Doing nothing would be a step up. Do nothing and eventually the economy can repair itself. This fucker is doing continual active damage. He's dynamic in that regard. That's what guts me the worst about this fuck.

Posted by: eleven at July 31, 2013 07:31 AM (KXm42)

44 Ace: "Even though he is...the ultimate insider, the most powerful man in the world," That's what I don't get about his, and his supporters', defenses of his administration. He goes out and says, Things suck because I haven't been able to get what I want for the last 5+ years, because of Republican obstruction. You, fellow morons and I say, Wow. If I accept this defense as absolutely true, you are making yourself out to be a completely ineffectual leader. Obama supporters and wishy-washy middle-of-the-roaders, by contrast, say, Yeah! Why are those Republicans so darned obstructionist?

Posted by: JPS at July 31, 2013 07:31 AM (g11mv)

45 Obama loves corporations... when he or his cronies are running them. Obama is a fascist.

Posted by: soothsayer went to phoenix az all the way to tacoma at July 31, 2013 07:32 AM (VzKYQ)

46 I’m sure TFG never learned to do anything but campaign. That’s why he spends all his time doing so.

Posted by: CarolT at July 31, 2013 07:32 AM (z4WKX)

47 Thought provoking but I think Obama is driven by perks of the office and I think he is too lazy to do the hard work of actual governing; it's a nuisance that cuts into his trips/golf. I think narcissism overrides any intellectual points he has. While I loathe Obama, I place blame for this debacle on the media 150% ...no power hungry Republican would have been allowed to pull the executive crap coming from Obama/Holder........ no way. Obama's just doing what the media is allowing him to do...... carte blanche.

Posted by: dixiegal at July 31, 2013 07:32 AM (d8l76)

48 Love seeing Jay Z, Oprah, Al Sharpton, and Obama complain about how racist and evil America is, the country that made them richer and more powerful than 99.99999999999% of people who've ever walked on the planet.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 31, 2013 07:32 AM (ZPrif)

49 This post is straight up racist.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 07:32 AM (cRPJq)

50

the most powerful man in the world



As much as it pains me to say this, is that even true anymore?

Not true. The first characteristic necessary to be powerful is to wield power in a covincing fashion. No one in the world believes that Obama knows how to wield power. Mean, vindictive, yes. Powerful, not so much.

Posted by: Harry at July 31, 2013 07:33 AM (ib4tw)

51 Alternate headline:

Obama's Eternal Critique.  And The Middle Class.

Posted by: Fritz at July 31, 2013 07:34 AM (UzPAd)

52 "Please feel free to shoot holes in teh above." I'd say that the key distinction between communism and fascism is that fascism maintains the illusion of a private market, although the government is pulling all the strings. GM? Straight up fascism.

Posted by: Lauren at July 31, 2013 07:34 AM (IzZA5)

53 And the Fighting Democrats brand lets you get away with a lot of personal foibles. Cause it's not about the candidate. So what if he has a history of sexual harassment -- it's about Fighting For You!, and sometimes it's good to have an SOB in your corner Fighting For You!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 31, 2013 12:30 PM (ZPrif)


Forget you not, the bleating of John McCain?

Fight with me my friends!

Posted by: Yoda Mama at July 31, 2013 07:34 AM (2hpna)

54 Good gravy, Marx was a shitty writer.

Maybe it sounded better in the original Peruvian.

Posted by: Waterhouse at July 31, 2013 07:34 AM (uYaYO)

55 What else could we expect from a man who has no record of accomplishment except for getting elected? He has an empty resume - only job titles, nothing more.
I think the only thing he is good at is destruction, and that is what he is doing. So he has to pretend to be an outsider so as not to give the game away.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2013 07:34 AM (xvolr)

56 Notice also how carefully he avoids having to ever actually answer critics of his policies. Press conferences with questions are a thing of the past. Not that the MFM would ask him bold questions anyhoo, but still -- why take the chance?
 
Everything is stage managed. Note that they moved the Chattanooga TP protesters 6 miles away from his speech there 'for security reasons'.
 
The Potemkin Presnit.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 31, 2013 07:34 AM (ccXZP)

57 'Critique' in the sense of 'Here's what's wrong with YOU.'

Posted by: zsasz at July 31, 2013 07:34 AM (MMC8r)

58 I have a left-wing friend who when confronted with Obama's economic record basically says Obama is doing the best he can do under the circumstances; the circumstances basically being Congress' unwillingness to do what Obama wants. He fails to accept the fact that Obama has done anything wrong or that all presidents have to deal with Congress. There's nothing I can say to him so I don't.

Posted by: Dr Spank at July 31, 2013 07:35 AM (qRasw)

59 This shows how much easier it is to be critical than to be correct.
 - Benjamin Disraeli.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 31, 2013 07:36 AM (klTyW)

60 The appeal of both Obama and Holder to the Democrats is their sheer unassailability.  Despite committing several impeachable crimes, Obama will never be impeached because no one in Congress wants to be "the person who impeached America's First Black President".  Holder is in a similar position.  A simple cry of "Racism!" is all that's needed to silence their critics.

This is why I don't think the Democrats will nominate Hillary for 2016.  The Democrats' job isn't done yet, and won't be done before Obama leaves office.  For one thing, they absolutely MUST have gun control before they can fully implement Socialism in the United States and they can't get it right now.

So the Democrats need not only to win in 2016, but to win with someone just as unassailable as Obama.  Hillary is not that person - she cannot play the "I Win" race card.  They need someone else who can.

Which is why I think they will try to find another young Black or Hispanic and elevate them, with the help of the ever-complicit media, to the Presidency.  And it'll probably work, especially if we run a candidate that isn't willing to fight back.  Because, you know, racism.

Posted by: Viridian at July 31, 2013 07:36 AM (xd4GQ)

61 OT

Dennis Miller just referred to Chris Christie and Rand Paul as 'Fat Man and Little Boy"


carry on

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 31, 2013 07:36 AM (8sCoq)

62 We all understood that this day may come.  Who will do something about it is another question entirely

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at July 31, 2013 07:36 AM (Pr6hk)

63 Good gravy, Marx was a shitty writer. He just comes off as an angry little man pissing at the world from his shitty little slum-hole.

Posted by: eleven at July 31, 2013 07:36 AM (KXm42)

64 Action Affirmative embodiment, he is.

Posted by: Yoda Mama at July 31, 2013 07:36 AM (2hpna)

65 This key insight makes your ass look big.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at July 31, 2013 07:36 AM (pgQxn)

66 He also has his henchmen carry out his plan - Holder, Napolitano, Jackson, etc.
Very good at keeping his hands clean. Any one of those cabinet members would have been let go along time ago (and Jackson stayed much longer than she should have) had he disagreed with their actions.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2013 07:37 AM (xvolr)

67 Kraut: "...He talks about this in the abstract and he actually gets away with it in a way that I find absolutely astonishing, it's magical..."

And we all know how he gets away with it, don't we? So it's neither astonishing nor magical. Ask those who say "choice providers." They'd tell you. In their way.

MFM delenda est.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 31, 2013 07:37 AM (eHIJJ)

68 For Obama, it's easier to criticize than it is to do.  Now that he has all the power, and is using it, he'd much rather be seen as simply reacting against evil forces than seen as anything positive.

"Positive" is so goody-goody, man, being "negative" is the state of the culture today.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 31, 2013 07:37 AM (P7hip)

69 Love seeing Jay Z, Oprah, Al Sharpton, and Obama complain about how racist and evil America is, the country that made them richer and more powerful than 99.99999999999% of people who've ever walked on the planet. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 31, 2013 12:32 PM


Yes, because who work in stores watched them shop.  People who work in stores should watch people shop.  It's their job.

Posted by: huerfano at July 31, 2013 07:37 AM (bAGA/)

70 I openly mock any Libs who still vocally support Obama. It'sa nonsensical position, and they know it, makes them squirm. So you wanted to double the deficit? You wanted to massively expand surveillance/drone warfare? You wanted 4 dollar a gallon gas?

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 31, 2013 07:37 AM (ZshNr)

71 Even United Trinity Church of Hate Whitey is about critique-- I've never seen a supposedly christian church that is so extroverted, that's all about 'what's wrong with THOSE people' rather than 'what's wrong with ourselves.'

Posted by: zsasz at July 31, 2013 07:37 AM (MMC8r)

72 There's nothing I can say to him so I don't. Posted by: Dr Spank at July 31, 2013 12:35 PM (qRasw) At such times, the only thing I try to inform these people of is their own idiocy. Lost a couple of friends and disowned a family member over it, but I'm done playing nice.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 07:38 AM (cRPJq)

73 the circumstances basically being Congress' unwillingness to do what Obama wants." Exactly. It's the "do nothing congress" rhetoric. I'm telling you, Obama wanted the Republicans to win in '10. It gave him perfect cover amongst idiots.

Posted by: Lauren at July 31, 2013 07:38 AM (IzZA5)

74

Obammy   does not have ideas.   He does not have goals or plans.   He has an ego that floats above him like a hot air balloon, carrying him along.  He is an intellectual midget with an oversized id   who believes that what he wants    is the most important thing in the world, and everyone else should want it, too.   He cares nothing for the    things that must be done to    attain those wants;  that's for OTHER people to handle.   He believes taht all he should have to do is say some words and    his wishes will be   granted.  If that fails to happen, it's not HIS fault.  He told people what he wanted and they didn't deliver.    That is THEIR failure, not his;  THEY failed to    cater to their President's desires.     

 

The economy is sluggish and in a shambles?   That's because THEY didn't make the economy strong like he told them to.  

 

Millions are out of work   or undermployed?   That's  because   THEY   didn't create jobs like he told them to.   

 

The Middle East is a boiling cauldron of Islamist militarism?   That's because THEY didn't turn the Mid East into a thriving    center of democratic republicanism like he told them to.

 

Who is this amorphous "they?"   Doesn't matter.   THEY are whoever Obammy thinks is supposed to be in charge of carrying out his wishes.   They don't need to be named, because they should already know who they are.   If they don't, then THEY are the problem.

 

He cannot take responsibility for the     actions of his administration because he has no idea    how an administration should act.       He cannot be an effective President because he does not know what effect a President can have.     He's worse than Narcissus,   because  at least Narcissus contributed something beautiful to the world when he was transformed into a flower.    All Obama has given the world is shit and misery.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit [/s][/b][/u][/i] at July 31, 2013 07:38 AM (4df7R)

75 An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows


TFG is just a idiot

Posted by: Dwight D Eisenhower at July 31, 2013 07:39 AM (Pr6hk)

76 He does this because we no longer have an oppositional party. So who is going to hold him to account? Who is going to keep him honest? The press? The GOP? The electorate? The American experiement is over. No country worth a damn elects Barack Husein Obama twice. No country worth a damn would even contemplate a hillary rodham clinton presidency.

Posted by: kreplach at July 31, 2013 07:39 AM (Ttj5v)

77 TFG is purposely making the economy worse. He should do nothing. O/T-Monica Lewinsky with Bill is out. Hillary must be even more pissed off!

Posted by: CarolT at July 31, 2013 07:40 AM (z4WKX)

78 This is why I refer to him as a lawn jockey.  Racial jokes aside, he is standing out in    the front yard, all dressed up, thinking he is   doing anything   other than just being a decoration.  

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 31, 2013 07:40 AM (wzlt7)

79 No country worth a damn elects Barack Husein Obama twice. Nope. No country worth a damn would even contemplate a hillary rodham clinton presidency. And double nope.

Posted by: eleven at July 31, 2013 07:41 AM (KXm42)

80 Why are you analyzing Barack... I'm the one you need to look at... I'm the important one... look at meeeee

Posted by: Valerie Jarrett at July 31, 2013 07:41 AM (Pr6hk)

81 "[Marx] just comes off as an angry little man pissing at the world from his shitty little slum-hole." Unfortunately there are millions for whom this is considered a goal.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 07:41 AM (cRPJq)

82 To know TFG one would have to know Val Jar. Token and Mao-Mao. Pay no attention to those strings and teleprompters.

Posted by: Bad Chinese Opera at July 31, 2013 07:41 AM (oDCMR)

83 " Utopia is not under the slightest obligation to produce results: its sole function is to allow its devotees to condemn what exists in the name of what does not."  Revel's Last Exit to Utopia.

Posted by: dblwmy at July 31, 2013 07:41 AM (XrGnJ)

84 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at July 31, 2013 12:38 PM (4df7R) MWR, That sums him up perfectly. Carol

Posted by: CarolT at July 31, 2013 07:42 AM (z4WKX)

85 If Engel had not supported this self-hating bad writing angry drip, he would be a mere footnote.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 31, 2013 07:42 AM (klTyW)

86

Even though he is, and has been, for going on six years now, the ultimate insider, the most powerful man in the world, and the Primary Economic Indicator of the United States of America, Barack Obama continues to play at the role of the Alinksyite organizer standing outside the factory and leading chants and correcting misspellings on other radicals' placards.

 

If one were uncharitable, one might say he does so because he never learned to actually do anything else.

 

He never did learn anything else, Ace.  He's ignorant of economics, ignorant of history, ignorant of anything outside his college room bull session bubble.  Put him in the same classroom with Dubya, take away his AA crutch, and he'd pull nothing but "F"s and "D"s, presuming he didn't just drop out.

 

But as well, he doesn't need to take responsibility for two reasons:

 

1.  Liberal  racism:  sure, he's dumb.  But we've got to protect him, so where's McCain to bend over again?

 

2.  Black racism:  on another thread a few days ago, a poster mentioned being in a facebook with a black woman who lamented that whites have all the power.  When given the response that the president and attorney general of the country are black, so how can blacks be powerless, she unfriended the poster.  Obama doesn't have to take responsibility or be seen as part of DC because government is a white man's game rigged against the brothers.

 

But still, excellent essay, Ace.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 31, 2013 07:42 AM (zF6Iw)

87 saw this on the innerneck:

"The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president."

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 31, 2013 07:42 AM (8sCoq)

88 Barack Goldstein Obama

I don't get this reference, is BO Joo-baiting?

Posted by: Where're my ping pong balls at July 31, 2013 07:42 AM (YxaXw)

89 "I find it astonishing that he goes around making speeches in which he deplores the state of the economy, the growing income inequality, chronic unemployment, staggering middle class income, and it's as if he has been a bystander, as if he's been out of the country for the last five years."

Jimmy Carter talked in this same passive way about the economy during 1979-1980. How bad things were happening to working Americans. Without any apparent awareness of how it was HIS economic policy that was failing them.

Carter was roundly mocked for his combination of impotence and obtuseness -- even the media could not resist it -- and he was roundly driven out of office as a result.

However, Obama by contrast can confidently rely upon his impenetrable racial force field. The media could hypothetically do to him what they did to Carter, which is to point out that the failures he deplores occurred on his watch because of his policies. But they will not, because, Historic First Black President, Shut Up, They Explained.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 31, 2013 07:43 AM (gqT4g)

90 It's just this sort of dirty talk that keeps us from winning elections.

Posted by: GOP old guard at July 31, 2013 07:43 AM (evN68)

91

79 No country worth a damn elects Barack Husein Obama twice. 

When a country is ruled by a city that is considering a Weiner for mayor, then the country is not worth a damn.

Posted by: Bad Chinese Opera at July 31, 2013 07:44 AM (oDCMR)

92 87
Word!

Posted by: dblwmy at July 31, 2013 07:44 AM (XrGnJ)

93

And the chief tool of Marxism is critique.

 

Conservatives  denounce specific  government programs.    Liberals denounce  society  in general.  Who has  the greater supply of ammo?

Posted by: CJ at July 31, 2013 07:44 AM (9G+G5)

94 >>>Barack Goldstein Obama

Immanuel Goldstein was the fictitious "terrorist" at which MinTruth directed its Two Minute Hates.  He was an invented hate object designed to explain away the party's failures.


Posted by: ace at July 31, 2013 07:44 AM (/IWYB)

95 He does this because we no longer have an oppositional party. Which is why I'm wondering why anyone is concerned with tactics that may [in their estimation] hurt the GOP's chances of retaking the Senate, or of losing the House. So what if the GOP does retake the Senate? What, precisely, do you think they're going to do?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 07:45 AM (cRPJq)

96 Of course you're right on this, Ace. As is Limbaugh.

Creating order out of chaos is tedious and hard. Creating the chaos is easy. And Obama is a "community organizer" whose only function is to upset the status quo via chaos. That is his only function and the only thing for which has has had training. Ever.

He's not smart enough to have answers. That's a task to be offloaded to people infinitely more clever. Obama got to where he is by reading off a Blackberry and a TelePrompter while bucketloads of boosterism in the MFM bathed his anointed head.

Obama's got nuthin'. Never did. We all have known this since his days in the Senate.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 31, 2013 07:45 AM (eHIJJ)

97 *blinks at new sidebar article*

Might be able to resuscitate the dead up to 24 hours later. Chicago voters hardest hit.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at July 31, 2013 07:46 AM (klTyW)

98 I'm sure it's already been said, but the JEF can only get away with the schtick if he has a press willing to let him get away with it; because they want him to get away with it.

Oh, and an "opposition" party that let's him get away with it; because they want him to get away with it . . . .

I said it before, but one of the biggest aids to the JEF getting elected was 8 years of a Shadow Presidency run by the Dems--each and every thing that Bush did was angrily denounced by some big name in the Democrat Party. By the end, there was nothing that Bush had done that was good; and everything the Dems had done was good.

And then along comes the blank slate who can campaign on each and every time the Dems were "right"--because they were on every side of every issue!


Posted by: RoyalOil at July 31, 2013 07:46 AM (VjL9S)

99
Yep. Obama will never admit to being a marxist, but he is a marxist nonetheless.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 31, 2013 07:46 AM (4+FWp)

100 I believe as is the case most of the time, the correct answer is the simplest . Obama is not the brightest bulb . He hasn't any intention that what he is doing is some complex plan .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at July 31, 2013 07:46 AM (0SHei)

101 So what if the GOP does retake the Senate? What, precisely, do you think they're going to do?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 12:45 PM (cRPJq)

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Exactly.  Impeachment may or may not hurt in the 2014 elections, but it would stop the    incessant attack on our rights and the rule of law.  Frankly, if the GOP stepped up and brought in special prosecutors, their odds of electoral gains probably go up.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 31, 2013 07:47 AM (wzlt7)

102 Exactly. It's the "do nothing congress" rhetoric. I'm telling you, Obama wanted the Republicans to win in '10. It gave him perfect cover amongst idiots.

Posted by: Lauren at July 31, 2013 12:38 PM (IzZA5)



I don't buy this.  He was close to a rage stroke when he addressed the nation after the 2010 results and probably would've had one if the Iranian Rodent hadn't injected a small pharmacy up his pansy ass.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 31, 2013 07:47 AM (Idczg)

103 Oh, and the WSJ nailed it to the wall this morning, in the piece where they talk about "Obama's grand bargain with Obama".

Obama will imperiously nod his head in agreement if the Congress bring him a tax reform deal that (a) raises taxes, and (b) Obama gets to spend those taxes on his pet programs for his cronies. That's his big "concession" to "working with Republicans".

Man! Who wouldn't be in a hurry to sign up for THAT awesome deal?

Heads he wins, tails you lose. And if you think that's a mug's game, and decline to play, you're just a recalcitrant racist or something.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 31, 2013 07:47 AM (gqT4g)

104

Nice post, Ace.  Makes me nostalgic for my youth, when I studied Marx and Marxism (reading Marx and Engels and others in German - later, the Soviet heirs in Russian).

 

One unimportant thing that's always bothered me though is the charge that Obama is a Marxist.  Oh, I understand the basic idea behind it, and it's obviously true that he's a radical, collectivist, pretty unworldly ignoramus on all things economic.  But he also obviously has no more serious understanding of Marx or related topics than he has of market economics, the constitution or US history, international affairs, national security, etc.

 

As for Krauthammer's "astonishment" at the absurd, surreal nature of presidential performance and politics today, uh - where has he been for 5 years?  This lightweight, daddy-issue freak (Bambi) has always, from his first appearance, obviously been a completely unfit, uninteresting nothing who is unable to do anything more than mumble the empty and silly garbage that passes for rhetoric on the "left".  Yet the formerly greatest nation and civic culture on earth, to a large extent, swooned and granted this non-entity enormous power.  The degradation and flight from reality that began in 2007 hasn't changed or ended.  What's the big deal from Krauthammer, just now?  What's new?

 

Posted by: non-purist at July 31, 2013 07:47 AM (afQnV)

105

Maybe some day the Republicans will realize that they are going to be called racists, no matter what, and then maybe they will start ripping Obama apart.

 

Nope, it aint gonna happen.  I am just spitting in the wind.

Posted by: Harry at July 31, 2013 07:48 AM (ib4tw)

106


Puppeteers: "Go out Barry, say these words, then go golfing."

Obama: "Ok, but you guys are gonna pay for that round right?"

Puppeteers: "Sure. Boehner's giving us a few bucks for it."


Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Commissar at July 31, 2013 07:48 AM (HQml1)

107 >>It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president.

But how do we undo do the entrenched bureaucracy - the Lois Lerners - that remains despite who is elected president?

How can we undo the damage Obama, Holder and co. have done to our election process? I think the 2012 election as stolen and he's laying groundwork to ensure that Dems will continue to win. How depraved is our electorate vs. the ones controlling the vote?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2013 07:48 AM (xvolr)

108 Posted by: Jones in CO at July 31, 2013 12:42 PM (8sCoq) This is what I've been saying, but of course not nearly as well as this person.

Posted by: eleven at July 31, 2013 07:49 AM (KXm42)

109

So what if the GOP does retake the Senate? What, precisely, do you think they're going to do?

 

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 12:45 PM (cRPJq)

 

The same thing we've been doing since 2007 - listening to The Only Member Of Congress Who Matters™, Dingy Harry.

 

Don't worry - I've got my best men on ensuring that doesn't happen.

Posted by: MiniCave McConnell at July 31, 2013 07:49 AM (o44nj)

110 I think you are desperately searching for a link between Obama and Marxism and you've convinced yourself that you've found one that is meaningful. But "critique" is not a bad thing. Continual critical analysis is a good thing that too many politicians eschew.

Posted by: Come on now at July 31, 2013 07:49 AM (8esY+)

111 >>>Obama's intellectual godfather, Saul Alinsky

>>>Ever wonder why the Left won't propose a constructive alternative? This is why!


It would seem remiss if I didn't remind everyone of this as a counterpoint.

Rule 12 “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.”

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at July 31, 2013 07:50 AM (0q2P7)

112 while Marx ranted and scribbled, half of his children died of malnutrition


while Obama scribbles and rants, half of the country is dying.


history, you guys

Posted by: Slim from San Antonio at July 31, 2013 07:51 AM (omBWL)

113 But how do we undo do the entrenched bureaucracy - the Lois Lerners - that remains despite who is elected president? Executive Orders.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 31, 2013 07:51 AM (pZ0pM)

114

I recall TFG referring to himself as Shiva. Shiva is 'shakti' or power, Shiva is the destroyer, the most powerful god of the Hindu pantheon and one of the godheads in the Hindu Trinity.

TFG does not suffer from too much humility.

Posted by: Bad Chinese Opera at July 31, 2013 07:51 AM (oDCMR)

115 Ronald Reagan at his best. One link to a series of clips of Ronald Reagan Humor.

(By way of contrast, the clip concludes with about a minute of TFG speaking without benefit of teleprompter. He can't put a coherent sentence together.)

You younger morons need to watch this to see what a Real President once looked like.
 
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=wrRTau5jusU

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 31, 2013 07:51 AM (8sCoq)

116 "He does this because we no longer have an oppositional party."

Yet another article in BenK's morning news dump about how the GOP donor class are frantically jumping up and down and imploring their various pet creatures in Congress to pass amnesty for illegal aliens right away.

That's the same GOP donor class who brought us the famously successful McCain '08 and Romney '12 campaigns. What a bunch of geniuses.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 31, 2013 07:51 AM (gqT4g)

117 he's a radical, collectivist, pretty unworldly ignoramus on all things economic


when all you know about economics you learned from a domestic terrorist 'education' professor while high on weed, what do you expected


Barry's just a front. 

Posted by: phreshone at July 31, 2013 07:51 AM (Pr6hk)

118

"The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president"

 

Very true, and the problem isn't just voting and government. If they vote for Obama, who are they hiring and promoting in their businesses? Ask yourself what is the greatest American technological innovation of the last 10 years?

 

A fucking MySpace rip-off is what qualifies as technology these days.

Posted by: Shrimp husband at July 31, 2013 07:52 AM (NMwls)

119

OT - Congresswoman Jaime Beutler ignored doctors' advice to abort, and instead has delivered the world's first ever survivor of a rare condition known as "Potter's Sequence".

 

http://tinyurl.com/m8bseot

 

Posted by: junior at July 31, 2013 07:52 AM (UWFpX)

120 But how do we undo do the entrenched bureaucracy - the Lois Lerners - that remains despite who is elected president? Real Civil Service reform. But that requires a Republican Party with the balls, resolve, and strategic awareness to go after the Democrat base of support. Heh, so in answer yo your question: we don't.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 07:52 AM (cRPJq)

121 Sock off; Seriously. Nice analysis Ace. Does anyone remember around April-May before the 2012 election? Obama made a series of speeches in the MidWest that directly repudiated Capitalism. Not in some sort of vague way, no, he said the history of the 20th Century proved that Capitalism in America in the form of individuals and businesses making a profit did not work and we needed to move to an economic model where we become "responsible" for each other. The MSM hid the text and his campaign site scrubbed the experiment but he came right out of that one particular closet. He still got elected. A fucking straight up big C Communist got re-elected as President.

Posted by: Daybrother caches ammunition and shit at July 31, 2013 07:52 AM (82UeH)

122

Anyone ever notice Marx liked to use the ! a lot in his incoherent rambling?

 

 

I think there was a great quote from Ratatouille of all places about the critic essentially being a coward, for he gives nothing of himself. He is the other end of TRs man in the arena.

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 31, 2013 07:53 AM (t06LC)

123 Same reason that Che ran out on the Cubans soon after the revolution. Blowing trains up is a lot more fun than making them run on time.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 31, 2013 07:54 AM (TIIx5)

124

@117

 

Nike made the back to the future shoes a reality. Better than facebook any day of the week.

 

And really, myspace was better.

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 31, 2013 07:54 AM (t06LC)

125
So what if the GOP does retake the Senate? What, precisely, do you think they're going to do?

Double the funding for obamacare, increase welfare benefits and make "one step in the country citizenship" the law of the land?

What do I win?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 31, 2013 07:54 AM (4+FWp)

126 But is it about "his comfort" or propaganda? Remember... the further he stays from this economy, the further his party stays. And it's all about party. Remember the rousing speech BC gave about him at the convention - and everyone said they weren't sure beforehand whether BC would, and then he did and it was like the ultimate LIV-convincing speech that this man is the greatest man ever and just hampered by outside factors?

They put party above everything. We forget that because our "side" tends toward individualism. Party for us is practically a foreign concept. For them it is literally the only way they know.

Whether he himself is a "marxist" in thought or in deed, is kinda not the point anymore. His party has been run by commies for at least 40 years. That's all that matters and in discussing this idiot and what he says and does, we seem to keep losing sight of that. We can't believe someone with an ego that huge could simply be a figurehead or a puppet - not to his own ideology but to the ideology of those who pull the strings. We think his personal beliefs or his upbringing actually matter.

Our loss.

Posted by: MegaIndependento at July 31, 2013 07:55 AM (uvaJ1)

127 A fucking MySpace rip-off is what qualifies as technology these days. Which is back to within $3.22 of it's IPO price. Dafuk?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 31, 2013 07:55 AM (pZ0pM)

128 >>>One unimportant thing that's always bothered me though is the charge that Obama is a Marxist. Oh, I understand the basic idea behind it, and it's obviously true that he's a radical, collectivist, pretty unworldly ignoramus on all things economic. But he also obviously has no more serious understanding of Marx or related topics than he has of market economics, the constitution or US history, international affairs, national security, etc.

maybe not but I think that's probably true of most leftists.  One cannot accuse a broad political movement of being entirely made up of studious philosophers.

In any event my point is not that he is expressly Marxist but he comes from the intellectual pit from which most leftists do, a pit in which one finds Critical Race Theory (expressly Marxist; again, relying upon Critique as its main weapon), Critical Gender Theory (ditto, but Marxism Lite for Gurlz), Critical Queer Theory, Crit Crit Crit Crit Crit.


Posted by: ace at July 31, 2013 07:55 AM (/IWYB)

129  112 But how do we undo do the entrenched bureaucracy - the Lois Lerners - that remains despite who is elected president?



Executive Orders.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 31, 2013 12:51 PM (pZ0pM)

 

 

 

 

 

Brute squads?

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 31, 2013 07:55 AM (t06LC)

130 Present!

Posted by: O'Bumbles at July 31, 2013 07:55 AM (71LDo)

131 My God, why didn't Bismark hang Marx

Posted by: Jean at July 31, 2013 07:56 AM (x0UH9)

132

As for Krauthammer's "astonishment" at the absurd, surreal nature of presidential performance and politics today, uh - where has he been for 5 years?

 

I recall Kraut basically endorse TFG in 2008 because of Palin's credentials. No mention of TFGs or Biden's credentials, just Palin's. I lost a lot of respect for him at that moment. I no longer find his analysis compelling or persuasive.

Posted by: Bad Chinese Opera at July 31, 2013 07:56 AM (oDCMR)

133 There are two worlds -- the world of objective reality (the Real World), and the world of words (Story World). In any human society, objective reality consists of property and markets. Either property is respected, and markets are free, or they are not. There can be no genuine debate about them -- the degree of economic freedom we enjoy speaks for itself. Nothing else matters. The Real World is economic in nature, and economics is all about property and markets. The world of words is everything else. Story World consists of things like the media, the culture, law, religion, etc. it's the abstract and imaginary world that only exists in our heads. Some people work very hard to get their head-space world to comport with external reality. That's difficult and challenging, but it can be done. It requires ridding yourself of a metric shit ton of errors and falsehoods more or less daily. But it is entirely possible to live inside Unreality, in Story World, pretty much indefinitely. It's a self-referential world that only needs the tiniest connection to objectivity, and the rest can be whatever one imagines it to be. Obama is a master of Unreality. He never worked in the Real World. He never ran or started a business. He has operated his entire life inside Myth-World. It's a world filled with Marxists, race agitators, and lawyers. Obama could never govern. He campaigns all the time because campaigning is a part of Story World, which has a minimal connection to reality. He positions himself as a champion of Group X because that's the Story he tells himself. He'll never acknowledge or really engage with the economic effects of his actions because he can't. He has spent his entire life retreating into Story World, with himself as the protagonist. Trying to get him to engage with reality is like a psychiatrist trying to coax a delusional schizophrenic, who has retreated into delusion to escape an intolerable reality, to start interacting with real people instead of his imaginary ones. HE DOESN'T WANT TO. If conservatives want to start winning, then we need to start telling better stories, because that's where the game of politics is played. We may own Reality, but Leftism has the upper hand in Story World, and they have for nearly 150 years.

Posted by: Phinn at July 31, 2013 07:56 AM (AApUU)

134

@127

 

I really really loathe the crits. My least favorite jurisprudencial philosophy. You should do a post on the crits sometime ace.

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 31, 2013 07:57 AM (t06LC)

135 >>>Sock off;

Seriously. Nice analysis Ace.

 Posted by: Daybrother caches ammunition and shit

...

Thank you and I'm glad you turned the sock off!  I wouldn't want to think you were complimenting me under some silly made-up internet handle.  J/k of course.

Posted by: ace, sock off, Rick Tempest at July 31, 2013 07:57 AM (/IWYB)

136 The base assumption here is that Obama is both Chief Executive and president. The Chief Executive takes responsibility and gets things done; the president is a symbol. He loves being a symbol but hates doing things, so Valerie Jarrett is Chief Executive and Obama is president. But we didn't elect ValJar, Obama appointed her (or she appointed herself). So we are truly ruled by an unelected Chief Executive, and that ought to scare us.

Posted by: joncelli at July 31, 2013 07:57 AM (RD7QR)

137 "One unimportant thing that's always bothered me though is the charge that Obama is a Marxist."

I think the thesis is correct that Obama's understanding of Marxism does not run any deeper than stoned dorm room bull sessions about the inherent inhumanity of capitalism.

So, no, he's not a Marxist. What he is is a Daleyist.

Obama came up through the Chicago system.

The Chicago system is bone simple. You lie, cheat, steal, smear, unseal sealed records, impeach petition signatures, and dig up votes in graveyards to get elected. Once you get elected, you clamp down with an iron hand on the smallest of pettifogging details, forcing people to pay you protection money to be allowed to accomplish the smallest things. You use that money to reward your friends and punish your enemies and secure your re-election.

He's not a President. He's the Alderman In Chief.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 31, 2013 07:58 AM (gqT4g)

138 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 31, 2013 12:54 PM (4+FWp) Which is fucking crazy, right? I mean, sitting back and hoping...wishing more accurately...for the GOP to regain power so that they might possibly do what they have no history of doing, is just insane.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 07:58 AM (cRPJq)

139 Obama looks at our country, and the Constitution in the same manner that a 15 year old Village Idiot looks at the sluice gates on a dam.
In his lifetime they were never needed, so therefore they need to be removed, and the resulting openings blocked up permanently.

Both the Constitution, and the sluice gates are both the result of experiences that were learned by those who came before him. And often those lessons came at a great price.
But, because of the arrogance of the president, and the ignorance of the Village Idiot, those lessons, and the resulting policies and beliefs must be cast aside.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 31, 2013 07:58 AM (NyTSp)

140 You are the Brute Squad. Oy!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 31, 2013 07:58 AM (ZPrif)

141 >A fucking MySpace rip-off is what qualifies as technology these days.


how (if at all) has Facebook made life fundamentally better? not all technology is an improvement- Facebook's greatest achievement was making Mark Zipperhead a jillionaire

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 31, 2013 07:58 AM (8sCoq)

142 With his never ending help from the press, Obama has done a wonderful job of convincing much of the population that he is not in charge, is not governing, and therefore can make the case that "this is not [my] economy". The Republicans have been dismal. I think Rush put his finger on the issue - all Washington based Republicans want is to be a part of the government, they don't want change. Why does Rush trust Greta? How did she become "the one" that Rush will talk to?

Posted by: MoeRon at July 31, 2013 07:58 AM (TFsVB)

143

@130

 

He didn't want to. Bismark adopted Marx to a degree to create the social welfare programs to keep the lower classes in place and to solidify the Kaiser and aristocracy's position.

 

They were in on it, which is usually something the left forgets.

Posted by: Jollyroger at July 31, 2013 07:58 AM (t06LC)

144 Which is back to within $3.22 of it's IPO price.
Dafuk?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 31, 2013 12:55 PM (pZ0pM)

A couple of guys I work with are playing Puts/Calls roulette with FB stock...so far they are making money.  It has to do with FB claiming they can deliver consumers to people who advertise there.  I still would not touch the stock, not even in the Puts/Calls space.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 31, 2013 07:59 AM (kXoT0)

145 >I mean, sitting back and hoping...wishing more accurately...for the GOP to regain power so that they might possibly do what they have no history of doing, is just insane.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 12:58 PM (cRPJq)


true- the GOP has had all 3 'houses' before and done nothing with it

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 31, 2013 08:00 AM (8sCoq)

146 If conservatives want to start winning, then we need to start telling better stories, because that's where the game of politics is played. We may own Reality, but Leftism has the upper hand in Story World, and they have for nearly 150 years. Posted by: Phinn at July 31, 2013 12:56 PM (AApUU) Excellent points, in my less than humble opinion.

Posted by: MoeRon at July 31, 2013 08:00 AM (TFsVB)

147 The Republicans have been dismal. I think Rush put his finger on the issue - all Washington based Republicans want is to be a part of the government, they don't want change.  Posted by: MoeRon at July 31, 2013 12:58 PM (TFsVB)

Exactly, they all want to live in a Georgetown mansion and go to all the parties.  It is about enabling their lifestyle, nothing more, nothing less.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 31, 2013 08:00 AM (kXoT0)

148 Nice thesis, Ace.  I wish you could reach a wider audience.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 31, 2013 08:00 AM (8ZskC)

149 How can we undo the damage Obama, Holder and co. have done to our election process? I think the 2012 election as stolen and he's laying groundwork to ensure that Dems will continue to win. How depraved is our electorate vs. the ones controlling the vote?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2013 12:48 PM (xvolr)

 

 

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The dems are just as  corrupted  and smug as they were prior to the 2012 election.  It is starting to convince me that the fix is already in for the 2014/2016 elections. 

 

And the repubs aren't helping with the direction they've decided to  take.  It almost seems like there's collusion in DC.   The American people are no longer represented on the federal level of government.

Posted by: Soona at July 31, 2013 08:01 AM (7Rs5x)

150 >Why does Rush trust Greta? How did she become "the one" that Rush will talk to?

Posted by: MoeRon at July 31, 2013 12:58 PM (TFsVB)



apparently she is the one who pesters him for interviews the most

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 31, 2013 08:01 AM (8sCoq)

151 Crit Crit Crit Crit Crit. Posted by: ace at July 31, 2013 12:55 PM (/IWYB) Damn, landing that many crits, it's no wonder we're almost dead

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 08:01 AM (cRPJq)

152 yeah, non-purist is right:  Obama isn't smart or learned enough to be a Marxist; he's just a piss-ant Karl-wannabe elitist semi-Black narcissist clown


Marx let his family starve in a London attic; Obama demands golf and wagyu

Posted by: Slim from San Antonio at July 31, 2013 08:02 AM (omBWL)

153 Ace, it is also Maoist theory to engage in "endless revolution," to never stop stomping on the face of the villains of the past, even after they are long vanquished. That's how the Communist Chinese could have a seemingly unnecessary series of post-Revolution revolutions, as if they were outsiders still trying to seize the reins of power. The most famous example was of course The Cultural Revolution, in which the government encouraged and facilitated mass vigilante revenge against "capitalists" and "landlords" and so forth -- even though there was not a single capitalist or landlord left in the entire nation. So they lowered the bar to include anyone who was a "roader" or a "running dog" of the capitalists, i.e. who didn't manifest perfect communist thought and behavior at all times. Mao included this principle in his philosophy (sorry, don't have a quote at hand), that the revolution does not end when you seize power, but continues without end, forever. This became particularly popular with the '60s radicals in the US, because they saw it happening in real time, rather than being some musty old theory from the 19th century. And those '60s radicals were Obama's mentors and indoctrinators (even by his own admission). Thus, I posit that Mao's "endless revolution" is as much a part of Obama's strategy as is marx's "Eternal Critique."

Posted by: zombie at July 31, 2013 08:02 AM (+cx5n)

154

I met with my dissertation mentor the other day to pitch a plan.

I said "I'm fairly certain I render [the opposition argument] entirely defeated.  The problem of course is that's really I can do, reduce us back to primary unprovable assumptions."

She said "well, you're going to have to find a way out of that, we can't pass you if all you do is critique an argument, even if you defeat it."

 

Indeed.  But apparently I could be President. (And hell, I still have to critique with logic, TFG doesn't even do that.)

Posted by: tsrblke at July 31, 2013 08:02 AM (GaqMa)

155

In any event my point is not that he is expressly Marxist but he comes from the intellectual pit from which most leftists do, a pit in which one finds Critical Race Theory (expressly Marxist; again, relying upon Critique as its main weapon), Critical Gender Theory (ditto, but Marxism Lite for Gurlz), Critical Queer Theory, Crit Crit Crit Crit Crit.

 

Posted by: ace at July 31, 2013 12:55 PM (/IWYB)

 

Crit, crim; what's the difference?

Posted by: Typical Top Gear viewer at July 31, 2013 08:02 AM (o44nj)

156 Mostly correct. Critique is a Trotskyist trend of Marxism. It was also one of the largest "issues" with Trotsky in the 20s. He was all critique and no work.

Posted by: palooka at July 31, 2013 08:02 AM (aNlIg)

157 Why does Rush trust Greta? How did she become "the one" that Rush will talk to? Posted by: MoeRon at July 31, 2013 12:58 PM (TFsVB) I think Rush trusts her because she is not political at all. Levin said it last night when he said that there are no conservative television hosts now, the last one is Hannity. To me, Hannity is like a cheerleader! I would rather watch him than Bill O but he always has people on that I can’t stand.

Posted by: CarolT at July 31, 2013 08:02 AM (z4WKX)

158 "...If conservatives want to start winning, then we need to start telling better stories, because that's where the game of politics is played. We may own Reality, but Leftism has the upper hand in Story World, and they have for nearly 150 years."

Posted by: Phinn at July 31, 2013 12:56 PM (AApUU)

 

Very nicely done.

Posted by: troyriser at July 31, 2013 08:03 AM (2jF2B)

159 Repubs can't pound the emotional hot button issues because it's considered "low-class" to do so.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at July 31, 2013 12:25 PM (ZPrif)


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So I guess losing is considered "high class" then?

Who knew?

Posted by: Nighthawk at July 31, 2013 08:03 AM (OtQXp)

160 For those of you who don't know, "crim" is the British English shortening of "crominal".

Posted by: steveegg at July 31, 2013 08:03 AM (o44nj)

161 After they come to power, the critiques come to a screaming fucking halt. To critique is to be lined up and shot. Every single time.

Posted by: spongeworthy at July 31, 2013 08:03 AM (r5w1L)

162 yup, he's lazy and boring and everything he'll ever know, he learned at a cocktail party in 1993. But, I stand with John McCain, we have nothing to fear from the Obama presidency and with Mitt "the resume" Romney in that Obama tried his best, he just didn't come through in the clutch, but he's an ok guy and certainly not someone who needs to be brought to task for the alleged willful malicious nature of his presidency. And to suggest otherwise would only drive moderates away from the GOP. I mean, come on, in our party's quest for purity, NOT EVEN RONALD REAGAN COULD BE NOMINATED TODAY (TM). So, we need to work together with obama to come up with a grande compromise (TM) because as Mackerel says, we have nothing to fear from a Hillary presidency, at least when compared to scary purists with unpopular ideas like Rand Paul (and probably Ted Cruz too).

Posted by: oeJay44incday at July 31, 2013 08:03 AM (QxSug)

163 I know I've posted too much this morning, but why the hell does Fox continue to broadcast Karl Rove? It was Rove's policies that gave us Obama, thank you very much.... Rove is the ringleader of the Washington based Republicans and I turn the channel every time he's on Fox.

Posted by: MoeRon at July 31, 2013 08:04 AM (TFsVB)

164 Exactly, they all want to live in a Georgetown mansion and go to all the parties. It is about enabling their lifestyle, nothing more, nothing less.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 31, 2013 01:00 PM (kXoT0)



Even a long long time ago, when he was actually winning elections, that was Rove's strategy:  They may be cocksuckers, but they're *our* cocksuckers.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 31, 2013 08:04 AM (Idczg)

165 What do you think a community organizer does
It's criticize.

Posted by: Jay at July 31, 2013 08:04 AM (4x8W0)

166 I wouldn't want to think you were complimenting me under some silly made-up internet handle. J/k of course. Posted by: ace, sock off, Rick Tempest Oh. The irony. It burns!

Posted by: Daybrother caches ammunition and shit at July 31, 2013 08:04 AM (mYDvh)

167 The "honest" libs who voted for this cocksucker are very unenthusiastic compared to four years ago. They hate to admit they voted for a fraud so I doubt you'll ever get that out of them. I'm pretty sure they'd have been willing to vote for an alternative as long as he wasn't Richie Rich Willard or any of those other fuckheads in the primary (except maybe Noot if he didn't go full retard).

WHAT!?!  You think libs would go for Newt "Contract with America" Gingrich?  They successfully demonized him back in 1994, before the really nasty bunch of retards managed to get into the MSM.  You'd have heard nothing but how he dumped his cancer stricken wife for a younger, hotter model on every news source ad nauseum ad infinitum.  Before they were done with him every LIV would know that Newt is a nasty retard who wants to drag Regan's corpse around for a joyride, and they'd believe it to their core.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 31, 2013 08:04 AM (9PrpA)

168
yep its crazy BTW.  I left the 'beaten wife syndrome' of politics more than a year ago finally.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 31, 2013 08:04 AM (4+FWp)

169 But home prices are UP!!!!111!!

Posted by: dananjcon at July 31, 2013 08:04 AM (jvd3N)

170

Mostly correct. Critique is a Trotskyist trend of Marxism. It was also one of the largest "issues" with Trotsky in the 20s. He was all critique and no work.

 

Posted by: palooka at July 31, 2013 01:02 PM (aNlIg)

 

Which is why, back in the day, I rightly dubbed Obama a Trotskyite.

 

Who knew that he would also turn out to be quite the Stalinist?

Posted by: steveegg at July 31, 2013 08:04 AM (o44nj)

171 He [Trotsky] was all critique and no work.

Posted by: palooka at July 31, 2013 01:02 PM (aNlIg)

 

If by 'work' you mean mass liquidations and gulags, then I'll take Trotsky over Stalin any day.

Posted by: troyriser at July 31, 2013 08:04 AM (2jF2B)

172 After they come to power, the critiques come to a screaming fucking halt. To critique is to be lined up and shot. Every single time.


Actually, the critiques continue, but now they're self-critiques.  They're usually scheduled for just before the youthful and idealistic vanguard beats you to death.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 31, 2013 08:05 AM (8ZskC)

173 Why does Rush trust Greta? How did she become "the one" that Rush will talk to?

Posted by: MoeRon at July 31, 2013 12:58 PM (TFsVB)

 

 

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He explained that yesterday.  She wouldn't leave him alone until he agreed to the interview.  Plus, I think Rush is starting to see that perhaps just being on the radio isn't enough anymore.  The more the conservative message is disseminated, the better.

Posted by: Soona at July 31, 2013 08:05 AM (7Rs5x)

174 Soona, The DC people are entrenched. They want to stay there no matter what, they want the power. I hope Bevin knocks McConnell off in KY Primary! The Madison Project endorsed him. If we could start to get rid of some of the people that have been there for decades, it would be a start. If you notice, the only ones standing up against funding Obamacare are the new guys.

Posted by: CarolT at July 31, 2013 08:05 AM (z4WKX)

175

I recall Kraut basically endorse TFG in 2008 because of Palin's credentials. No mention of TFGs or Biden's credentials, just Palin's. I lost a lot of respect for him at that moment. I no longer find his analysis compelling or persuasive.

 

I call bullshit.  I guarantee you K bailed on Palin because he hated her accent.  The crease in her tongue wasn't as smooth as Obama's.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 31, 2013 08:06 AM (zF6Iw)

176 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maoism#Post-revolution "[Maoism] asserts that class struggle continues even if the proletariat has already overthrown the bourgeoisie...."

Posted by: zombie at July 31, 2013 08:06 AM (+cx5n)

177 A couple of guys I work with are playing Puts/Calls roulette with FB stock...so far they are making money. It has to do with FB claiming they can deliver consumers to people who advertise there. Then Fb has the slickest team since snake oil salesmen. Seeing as how they were in the $22.00 range not long ago.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 31, 2013 08:06 AM (pZ0pM)

178 Levin said it last night when he said that there are no conservative television hosts now, the last one is Hannity. To me, Hannity is like a cheerleader! I would rather watch him than Bill O but he always has people on that I can’t stand.

Posted by: CarolT at July 31, 2013 01:02 PM (z4WKX)



When I heard Levin say that I went "WTF" but the more I thought about it the more correct his statement became.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 31, 2013 08:07 AM (Idczg)

179 The hecklers heckled themselves onto the stage and now find themselves heckling the audience.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - owner of the Outrage Outlet by the 4-way stop at July 31, 2013 08:07 AM (hLRSq)

180 Revolution is a process.  The goal of every totalitarian regime is to control the process.  A house for $1?  Go for it!  But if you want to live in a $1 house, you're gonna have to pay the Man, buddy.

Posted by: mrp at July 31, 2013 08:08 AM (HjPtV)

181 Bobo is still critiquing BOOOOSH.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 08:08 AM (cRPJq)

182 Mike Lee is on Rush’s show now. The newly elected republicans are the only ones with balls to stand up to the establishment and TFG!

Posted by: CarolT at July 31, 2013 08:08 AM (z4WKX)

183 For those of you who are students of history... How did Franklin Roosevelt manage the same? He presided over the Great Depression? How did he manage to avoid getting blamed (not for the start of it) for the incredible length of the great depression? Under his watch and his policies? WPA, price controls, etc. I don't have the answer, but I've been thinking about it alot, especially after Barry got re-elected.

Posted by: Taco Shack at July 31, 2013 08:08 AM (C+qQ0)

184

Oh, Anna Puma, you're right about only Engels' financial support probably making Marx's name known to very many people - but Marx did have a pretty good pen when it came to real, social commentary (not the make-believe crap he didn't understand, esp. anything to do with economics).  "The 18th Brumaire of Louis Napoleon" is a highly readable and incisive look at a particular period in French society, at least for me.  Of course even more important than Engels' $$$$ was the subsequent adoption of some even more ridiculous version of Marx's rantings by the Russian revolutionaries, who used them as a tissue-thin rationale for their highly organized ruthless totalitarianism.

 

Back to the unbearable lightweight-ness of this disastrous, disgraceful "president".  He couldn't hold a decent conversation with me or anyone I know and respect - he's not one jot above the most superficial b.s.-er one has ever met.  Not even articulate.  And his elevation to the highest office - based on absolutely no achievement or experience, and a parody of a campaign ("hope and change") - pretty much sealed the degradation of this country and civic culture.  (And all this after the baseless demonization of a war-time president who was the most serious national security president since Truman or Reagan and who read more serious books per month than 99% of the populace)

 

 

Posted by: non-purist at July 31, 2013 08:08 AM (afQnV)

185 A pot smoker, a communist and a pathological liar walk in to a var. The bartender looks up and says, What can I get you Mr. President?

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 31, 2013 08:08 AM (vWlST)

186 I have many friends who are like Obama.

If something is wrong with them, it is never their fault. If something is wrong with me, it is because I am evil (according to them).

Posted by: navybrat at July 31, 2013 08:09 AM (U+BAn)

187 Crit Crit Crit Crit Crit.
Posted by: ace at July 31, 2013 12:55 PM (/IWYB)

You misspelled Clit, we are not amused Comrade Ace, please report to the re-education camp.

THE Womyn's Vagina Collective

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 31, 2013 08:10 AM (kXoT0)

188 Remember when Krauthammer was huffing and puffing and praising the Comeback Kid?  Good times, good times.

Posted by: Fritz at July 31, 2013 08:10 AM (UzPAd)

189 but yeah, marxist theory is about critique because the basic marxist process is: immizeration then revolution then paradise and how can people know they're in misery without being told how awful everything is.

Posted by: oeJay44incday at July 31, 2013 08:10 AM (QxSug)

190

I hope Bevin knocks McConnell off in KY Primary! The Madison Project endorsed him. If we could start to get rid of some of the people that have been there for decades, it would be a start.

----------

 

Something curious.  Apparently Ron Paul's grandson-in-law (who used to work for Rand Paul) is now working for McConnell's reelection campaign, with the blessing of both Ron and Rand Paul.

 

Posted by: junior at July 31, 2013 08:10 AM (UWFpX)

191 Karl Rove is the Philippe Pétain of our time while Juan Mclame is Vidkun Quisling.




History repeats itself and shit.

Posted by: dananjcon at July 31, 2013 08:10 AM (jvd3N)

192 Nevertheless, I don't think it's particularly debatable that Obama is only comfortable in the position of the Outsider Launching a Critique Against an Unjust System. An Unjust System, I should say, that he apparently Has Got Nothin' At All to Do With. ------------------- It's like this: Obama is Black, and Black Is Enough. His job was to be the First Black President. Period. Full stop. It is enough for him to maintain his Blackness by reading the occasional speech to remind us that he's black, as if we couldn't figure it out by looking at him. Who is he trying to convince? I think he's trying to convince himself, but that's a side issue. For most of us that post here, we see America as what our forefathers built and what we're trying to make of it today- America is the result of hundreds of years of individual efforts and decisions. For Black America and other professional grievance groups, they have no stake in the system, in their own minds. Because from the earliest age, they're not taught that America is their country, they're taught that they didn't make America, America is what happened TO them. I read his shitty "Dreams From My Father" book so you wouldn't have to. It is chock-full of resentment towards the White Power Structure and how bad the system sucks. How do you reason with people who don't even agree on what reality is? They truly do NOT live in the same country as us. It Will Burn.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 31, 2013 08:11 AM (++Xuv)

193 Barack Obama continues to play at the role of the Alinksyite organizer standing outside the factory

Yep. Back in aught eight when they said he was a 'community organizer', and when he bragged that his qualifying skill for president was organizing the community, I knew then who he was.

Everything I've learned since confirms that conclusion. Everything I've learned about Alinksy, ACORN, all the democrat front groups, all of it just by reading the news which apparently the people who write the news never do because more and more people who write the news are only just now discovering who Obama has always been.

And two hundred posts down the thread there has already been someone higher up in the thread who has already posted the same thing. I don't even have to read the comments to know it.

Posted by: All ready been invented at July 31, 2013 08:11 AM (Yy9MJ)

194 Hey, Ace, if you're still reading this thread - I'm strictly a daywalker, so I missed it in real time, but your Ashamed of Patriotism post was one of the best things you've done in a while.  I really liked it.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 31, 2013 08:11 AM (zF6Iw)

195 Revolution is a process. The goal of every totalitarian regime is to control the process. A house for $1? Go for it! But if you want to live in a $1 house, you're gonna have to pay the Man, buddy. What happens when no one plays?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 31, 2013 08:11 AM (pZ0pM)

196 Then Fb has the slickest team since snake oil salesmen. Seeing as how they were in the $22.00 range not long ago.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 31, 2013 01:06 PM (pZ0pM)

They reported a very strong second quarter and the market started making happy faces for FB stock.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 31, 2013 08:11 AM (kXoT0)

197 I said going back to, what, 2011, that the sitting President of the United States would run as a Washington outsider. I was right. Look, when you move in circles where all that counts is your intentions, it is infuriating to encounter those who only care about results.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at July 31, 2013 08:11 AM (VtjlW)

198 Obama speaks as if he's not in charge. Unless by blind luck something goes right (Ie: Bin Laden Raid) THEN he was in charge the whole time and it's I, Me, My administration  etc.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 31, 2013 08:12 AM (vWlST)

199



Look, he is a constitutional scholar, and none of you guys are, so you really need to watch your words, because he's a constitutional scholar, and you're not. I'm sure you know that he's remind us all of that, as he should.

It's pretty easy to understand.

Obama: Constitutional scholar
You guys: Not that


Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Commissar at July 31, 2013 08:12 AM (HQml1)

200 "And all this after the baseless demonization of a war-time president whowas the most serious national security president since Truman or Reagan"

I assume you're talking about the "serious national security president" who decided that Pakistan and Saudi Arabia were going to be "trusted allies in the War on Terror".

Yeah, that worked out great, and the voters just loved the result.

Time to be brutally frank here. We probably would not have had Obama in 2008 if George W. Bush had not utterly screwed the pooch.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 31, 2013 08:12 AM (gqT4g)

201 How did Franklin Roosevelt manage the same? He presided over the Great Depression? How did he manage to avoid getting blamed (not for the start of it) for the incredible length of the great depression? Under his watch and his policies? WPA, price controls, etc. Compliant media. Then he died.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 31, 2013 08:13 AM (pZ0pM)

202 apparently she is the one who pesters him for interviews the most Posted by: Jones in CO at July 31, 2013 01:01 PM (8sCoq) Jones In CO, yes he did say she sent the most emails. I have to go to the dentist. No one has responded to the Monica Lewinsky tape I put in two threads now. It would have been better if it had come out when Hillary was Sec. of State. It would have been more embarrassing but now that they’ve criticized Wiener the timing is better!

Posted by: CarolT at July 31, 2013 08:13 AM (z4WKX)

203 For those of you who are students of history...

How did Franklin Roosevelt manage the same?

He presided over the Great Depression?

How did he manage to avoid getting blamed (not for the start of it) for the incredible length of the great depression? Under his watch and his policies? WPA, price controls, etc.

I don't have the answer, but I've been thinking about it alot, especially after Barry got re-elected.

Posted by: Taco Shack at July 31, 2013 01:08 PM (C+qQ0)



He understood the media and got over on people with a lot of horseshit.  I have a number of problems with "The Forgotten Man" by Amity Schlaes but it gives an excellent view of what a monumental fuckup FDR was.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 31, 2013 08:13 AM (Idczg)

204 Duh

Posted by: Mongo at July 31, 2013 08:13 AM (OWjjx)

205 I read his shitty "Dreams From My Father" book so you wouldn't have to. It is chock-full of resentment towards the White Power Structure and how bad the system sucks. People will read that dreck and nod their heads in agreement while ignoring the rather obvious fact that that sucky system made him President.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 08:13 AM (cRPJq)

206
OT
I use to kinda understand the government number release on unemployment, GDP etc even to the point I knew they were being manipulated, but now they just said F it, we're gonna change the whole damn calculations all the way back to 1929.  WTF? 

In addition, the change was supposed to increase the GDP numbers by about 2%, so if the number is 1.7% we are in a contraction I guess.  Whatever.


(ps - I know they made the change so that they no longer look like fools in their manipulations vs history, so they just changed the history.)

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 31, 2013 08:14 AM (4+FWp)

207 If one were uncharitable, one might say he does so because he never learned to actually do anything else.

Fuck that charity shit. He's a useless fucking human being.  He's under-qualified to be a doorstop.

Posted by: B at July 31, 2013 08:14 AM (VC56G)

208 No one has responded to the Monica Lewinsky tape I put in two threads now. Posted by: CarolT at July 31, 2013 01:13 PM (z4WKX)

I went to Drudge and could not find it.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 31, 2013 08:14 AM (kXoT0)

209 130 My God, why didn't Bismark hang Marx

Posted by: Jean at July 31, 2013 12:56 PM (x0UH9)


He didn't think Marx was that big a deal. Bismark had his good points but he didn't have enough respect for the dangers of a philosophy.

Posted by: joncelli at July 31, 2013 08:14 AM (RD7QR)

210 Anyone curious about how I got my huge database of voter information for my campaign?  The NSA investigation is making me sweat . . .

Posted by: Bronco Bama at July 31, 2013 08:14 AM (1I4sj)

211 I don't buy this. He was close to a rage stroke when he addressed the nation after the 2010 results and probably would've had one if the Iranian Rodent hadn't injected a small pharmacy up his pansy ass.

Yup.  Obama is not a terribly complex individual.  If you imagine him as a 7 year old you can model his behavior in many situations.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 31, 2013 08:15 AM (B/VB5)

212

178 The hecklers heckled themselves onto the stage and now find themselves heckling the audience.

 

Well done. Bravo

Posted by: Bad Chinese Opera at July 31, 2013 08:15 AM (oDCMR)

213 The Great Depression began during Hoover's term; Hoover got all the blame, along with 'big business' ( even though it was mostly caused by drastic trade restrictions )


FDR sold himself as the Cure; the sales job worked, and eventually WWII pulled the economy out of depression

Posted by: Slim from San Antonio at July 31, 2013 08:15 AM (omBWL)

214 For further research and clarification, see:

"United States of America, Fundamental Transformation of", October 2008 Obama Publishing Co., Chicago Ill.

Posted by: miked at July 31, 2013 08:15 AM (iZiIb)

215 Also, I saw White Power Structure open for Tesla back in 2001.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 31, 2013 08:16 AM (++Xuv)

216

For those of you who are students of history...

 

How did Franklin Roosevelt manage the same?

 

He presided over the Great Depression?

 

How did he manage to avoid getting blamed (not for the start of it) for the incredible length of the great depression? Under his watch and his policies? WPA, price controls, etc.

 

I don't have the answer, but I've been thinking about it alot, especially after Barry got re-elected.

Posted by: Taco Shack at July 31, 2013 01:08 PM (C+qQ0)

 

The same reason S(l)ick Willie survived perjury and Teh SCOAMT got re-elected - a fully-compliant presstitute organ combined with dickless, spineless and brainless opposition.

Posted by: steveegg at July 31, 2013 08:16 AM (o44nj)

217 Marx was writing before Bismark, and ran off to London long before anyone in what became Germany ( 1870 ) could kill him

Posted by: Slim from San Antonio at July 31, 2013 08:16 AM (omBWL)

218 re: McConnell, he's not exactly a conservative's wet dream, but there was a post a month or two back about how he's been slowly packing advisiory boards with conservatives with real world experience in the relevant fields.  His long game in the admin bueracracy may be one of the best things Repubs have done in the past 20 years, so I'm not certain we should be too eager to eject him.  Plus, during the time he's been the GOP leader in the Senate, he had a functioning majority for, what, 5 months?  I'm not discrediting the idea of a primary challenge, but let's see if the new blood actually brings more to the table first.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at July 31, 2013 08:17 AM (sQ0LB)

219

How did Franklin Roosevelt manage the same?


He presided over the Great Depression?


How did he manage to avoid getting blamed (not for the start of it) for the incredible length of the great depression? Under his watch and his policies? WPA, price controls, etc.

 

Just ask yourself - why were homeless camps during the Depression called "Hoovervilles" instead of "Rooseveltvilles?"

 

Why did FDR talk about "the malefactors of great wealth?"

 

Why did he try to pack the Supreme Court?

 

The Depression was the fault of the Republicans.  It lasted so long because the rich wouldn't give up their wealth.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 31, 2013 08:17 AM (zF6Iw)

220 Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 31, 2013 01:14 PM (kXoT0)

http://preview.tinyurl.com/kf4phwn

Posted by: Country Singer at July 31, 2013 08:17 AM (L8r/r)

221 Obama has given free health care to millions. He has made the air breathable and the water drinkable. He has taken ON the KKK enthusiasts in the Republican Party and healed the nation. Solid A++.

Posted by: WHOOPS, there it is at July 31, 2013 08:17 AM (qRasw)

222 >Yep. Back in aught eight when they said he was a 'community organizer', and when he bragged that his qualifying skill for president was organizing the community, I knew then who he was.


Don't forget that 'running a campaign' was evidence of his vast executive experience

Posted by: Jones in CO at July 31, 2013 08:17 AM (8sCoq)

223 I read his shitty "Dreams From My Father" book so you wouldn't have to.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 31, 2013 01:11 PM (++Xuv)



Ugh; I wouldn't wish that upon anybody much less somebody whom I like.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 31, 2013 08:17 AM (Idczg)

224 Anyone curious about how I got my huge database of voter information for my campaign? The NSA investigation is making me sweat . . . I can't wait for that fucking shoe to drop. Sadly the Republicans won't do a fucking thing with it.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 08:17 AM (cRPJq)

225 No one has responded to the Monica Lewinsky tape I put in two threads now. Posted by: CarolT at July 31, 2013 01:13 PM (z4WKX) I went to Drudge and could not find it. Sherry, http://tinyurl.com/kf4phwn

Posted by: rickb223 at July 31, 2013 08:19 AM (pZ0pM)

226

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 31, 2013 01:11 PM (++Xuv)

 

IIRC, it's also full of a bit of "These are not my people" with a dash of "I must control them" in regards to the African American population too, no?

(I'm specifically thinking of some scene where he freaks out over dudes playing music too loud in a car that night and he realizes he's "better than them.)

 

No I haven't read the book, my dad did after election 1 and went "My God, what the fuck has this country done to itself."

Posted by: tsrblke at July 31, 2013 08:19 AM (GaqMa)

227 I read his shitty "Dreams From My Father" book so you wouldn't have to. It is chock-full of resentment towards the White Power Structure and how bad the system sucks. People will read that dreck and nod their heads in agreement while ignoring the rather obvious fact that that sucky system made him President. Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 01:13 PM (cRPJq) I still love that someone posted the first paragraph of Dreams From My Father and said that Palin wrote it. The usual suspects made the usual comments about that idiot snowbilly and then the person went back and said oh did I say Palin, I meant Obama, sorry about that.
Oh the weeping and wailing and I knew that I was playing along. Hmmm. Hippie tears.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at July 31, 2013 08:19 AM (VtjlW)

228 "And the chief tool of Marxism is critique, and the element of surprise." FIFY

Posted by: speedster1 at July 31, 2013 08:19 AM (yeM7r)

229 220 is a sock right?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 08:20 AM (cRPJq)

230 >>Thus, I posit that Mao's "endless revolution" is as much a part of Obama's strategy as is marx's "Eternal Critique."

Excellent point!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2013 08:20 AM (xvolr)

231 I read his shitty "Dreams From My Father" book so you wouldn't have to. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at July 31, 2013 01:11 PM (++Xuv) I have always thought some industries porn filmmaker would make the paradoy movie "Wet Dreams of My Father". Sorry, I forgot, it was lunch hour for many of you.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 31, 2013 08:20 AM (OWjjx)

232 "Hippie tears. Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at July 31, 2013 01:19 PM"

They really do make the best hate martinis.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 31, 2013 08:20 AM (knoK7)

233

Don't forget that 'running a campaign' was evidence of his vast executive experience

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As opposed to that inexperienced ignoramus Palin, whose time as mayor and governor didn't amount to much, if anything.

 

Posted by: junior at July 31, 2013 08:20 AM (UWFpX)

234 "How did Franklin Roosevelt manage the same? He presided over the Great Depression? How did he manage to avoid getting blamed (not for the start of it) for the incredible length of the great depression? Under his watch and
his policies? WPA, price controls, etc."

Something that has slowly become clear since the end of the Cold War and the opening of the former Soviet archives is that the New Deal-era White House was absolutely infested with Soviet sympathizers, and often with outright Soviet agents.

There had been a corresponding push by Soviet interests to get traction in the American news media (Walter Duranty didn't just happen by accident) and the American entertainment media (most of those people who were blacklisted in the '50s really had been bona fide Communists in the '30s and '40s).

So, you had an enormous agitprop mechanism quietly but energetically working behind the scenes to polish and prop up FDR, as the Soviets figured he was the best possible option in terms of their long term plans.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 31, 2013 08:20 AM (gqT4g)

235 FDR is an interesting question because dolts say things like "The Great Depression began during Hoover's term; Hoover got all the blame, along with 'big business' ( even though it was mostly caused by drastic trade restrictions )." (Not that I am knocking the particular person I quoted above) The great depression isn't an event that "started" it's a continuation of bad policies over an extended period of time. The crash that occurred during Hoover's time in office? There was already a recovery from that. But, once in office, FDR really screwed the pooch but continued to blame Hoover, along with everyone else. Crashes are cyclical, but they aren't depressions. Depressions and recessions occur because of policies. And they aren't marked by their starting points but by the things that extend them, until: 10 years later, people start talking about lost decades or depressions. Like, wow, things suck. It wasn't like, Hoover's Stock Market crash and the next day people were lining up for soup kitchens and started selling apples for a penny on the street corner. That took a grindingly long time.

Posted by: oeJay44incday at July 31, 2013 08:20 AM (QxSug)

236 I still love that someone posted the first paragraph of Dreams From My Father and said that Palin wrote it. The usual suspects made the usual comments about that idiot snowbilly and then the person went back and said oh did I say Palin, I meant Obama, sorry about that. Nice.

Posted by: eleven at July 31, 2013 08:21 AM (KXm42)

237 >>220 is a sock right?

WHOOPS made an appearance yesterday and earned him/herself a separate post just for Moron sport.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2013 08:21 AM (xvolr)

238 Just read the post. Shorter translation: Candidate Community Organizer (ie, rabble rouser) is now President Community Organizer. He is doing the only thing he knows how to do.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at July 31, 2013 08:21 AM (qFpRI)

239 Rush had it right: The Federal government is now a reality unto itself. Look at McCain; He started out as a decent man. The biggest problem with Obama's time is that he and his followers are determined to finish the consolidation of absolute power into the District. The dead White guys who wrote the Constitution knew Human history and understood that an all powerful Central government meant death to Freedom and self rule. The People are now Ruled and not governed. Obama and his Leftist idiots just feel like this is the normal and "forward" way to create a utopia. Since the '90s the Federal government has grown into something like 40% of the Country while the private sector has shrunk by 10-20% The federal Government is a huge tumor and everyone in Washington lives off its blood supply. Ah forget it. I'm just rambling now. Is it too early to start drinking?

Posted by: Daybrother at July 31, 2013 08:21 AM (HTAoH)

240

ace @127, absolutely agree re Obama being an actual Marxist.  My only point was my annoyance - perhaps an academic cavil - that this unremarkable lightweight (Obama) was implicitly credited with mastering an intellectually dense (albeit almost entirely ridiculous and synthetic) field of social and economic theory.

 

 

Posted by: non-purist at July 31, 2013 08:21 AM (afQnV)

241

Posted by: WHOOPS, there it is at July 31, 2013 01:17 PM (qRasw)

 

Oh, look, it's back.

 

Remind me which party kept electing a KKK Grand Kleagle to the Senate, dumbass?

 

Hint - 'twaren't the GOP.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 31, 2013 08:22 AM (zF6Iw)

242 220 is a sock right? Even if not it's too lame to even respond to.

Posted by: eleven at July 31, 2013 08:22 AM (KXm42)

243 And I blame Bush and McCain for ceding the intellectual ground to Obama for not only 2008 but for seemingly the rest of American history on what exactly happened in the crash of 2008. So, leftwing mythmaking begins and instead of democrat policies, we have a repudiation of basic American economic principles.

Posted by: oeJay44incday at July 31, 2013 08:22 AM (QxSug)

244 "I hope Bevin knocks McConnell off in KY Primary!"

For a second there I thought I was reading something about 1920's England.  Read the sentence twice, though

FDR had a wonderful narrative for the times.  And the newsreels.  And Herbert Hoover.

Posted by: mrp at July 31, 2013 08:23 AM (HjPtV)

245 WHOOPS must be Chris Hayes. Remember, he believes George Wallace was a Republican.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 31, 2013 08:23 AM (OWjjx)

246 Re: Posting Obama's words and attributing them to Palin - Reminds me of Rush's game years ago where he would read an excerpt from the Unibomber's manifesto of Al Gore's "Earth in Balance" and then have listener's guess which author it came from.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2013 08:23 AM (xvolr)

247 Lewinsky/Clinton sex tape surfaces (allegedly.)

Posted by: RWC at July 31, 2013 08:23 AM (fWAjv)

248 But have at it.

Posted by: eleven at July 31, 2013 08:23 AM (KXm42)

249 220 is a sock right? Even if not it's too lame to even respond to. Posted by: eleven at July 31, 2013 01:22 PM (KXm42) *twitch* Urge to break out alter ego rising. *twitch*

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at July 31, 2013 08:23 AM (VtjlW)

250 WHOOPS made an appearance yesterday and earned him/herself a separate post just for Moron sport. Oh, I remember that. I'm just saying it has to the a sock because even WHOOPS can't be that stupid.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 08:23 AM (cRPJq)

251 grindingly long time.

Posted by: oeJay44incday at July 31, 2013 01:20 PM (QxSug)



very obtuse; knock all you want, but the economies of the world powers began to fall apart in 1930--while Herbert H was in power.  Hoover got the blame, and FDR presented himself as the Cure.



He wasn't, of course--that's my point.  Only The War and Ze Germans pulled the USA out of depression.  Ramble on with arcane theories and Stuff, but It is what It is.

Posted by: Slim from San Antonio at July 31, 2013 08:24 AM (omBWL)

252 Who's this whoops thing? Sock or ignoramus?

Posted by: hello, it's me also a creep-assed cracka.. at July 31, 2013 08:24 AM (9+ccr)

253 I'm one of the few morons who gives McConnell credit for doing more in a position of powerlessness than that boozy emotional retard does heading up the House.  I reserve the right to be completely full of shit on occasion, though...

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 31, 2013 08:24 AM (Idczg)

254 220 is a sock right? Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 01:20 PM (cRPJq

**



I believe it is a sock of a troll that Ace actually featured in a post last night.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at July 31, 2013 08:24 AM (jvd3N)

255

220 is a sock right?

 

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 01:20 PM (cRPJq)

 

Played by Dr Spank.

Posted by: steveegg at July 31, 2013 08:24 AM (o44nj)

256

"182 For those of you who are students of history...

How did Franklin Roosevelt manage the same?

He presided over the Great Depression? ..."

 

 

 

You're right to think about this, because it's deja vu all over again.  The people do not understand economics, and they are easily fooled by the government "doing something" that superficially seems like it ought to help (when it's really just making it a little worse). Further, think about who's writing those history books that don't say "all of FDR's policies didn't work, and we stayed in the Depression as long as he stayed in office."

 

 

Those same history books will be speaking of an Obama trying to battle mysterious economic forces, with those mean ol' Republicans tying his hands, until the educational bubble finally bursts, and the Marxists lose control of history.

 

My criticism of Hoover is that he presumed the free market would right itself, ignoring the fact that recent government policies had interfered with that free market. Instead, he should have said, "That didn't work, so we need to undo it."

 

Posted by: Optimizer at July 31, 2013 08:25 AM (Mxt9o)

257

FDR is an interesting question because dolts say things like "The Great Depression began during Hoover's term; Hoover got all the blame, along with 'big business' ( even though it was mostly caused by drastic trade restrictions )." (Not that I am knocking the particular person I quoted above)

 

As I recall, the question was "how did FDR get away with not being blamed for the Depression?" not "what caused the Depression."

 

But thanks for not knocking me.  "Dolt" must be one of those new skool terms of endearment.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 31, 2013 08:25 AM (zF6Iw)

258

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at July 31, 2013 01:23 PM (VtjlW)

 

Hold fire, it's got Dr. Spanks hash.

Posted by: tsrblke at July 31, 2013 08:25 AM (GaqMa)

259 Republicans, your game is through, cause now you have to answer to....America!

Posted by: WHOOPS, there it is at July 31, 2013 08:25 AM (qRasw)

260

If one were uncharitable, one might say he does so because he never learned to actually do anything else.

 

 

If I needed you to be charitable, you'd be fetching me some waffles! Wiff syrup! Barry like his waffles wiff syrup!

Posted by: Barry Waffle, Int'l Man of Pancakes at July 31, 2013 08:25 AM (bUmSq)

261 "Obama and his Leftist idiots just feel like this is the normal and "forward" way to create a utopia."

If you mean that they are hell-bent on creating their own, personal, utopia then I agree.

Meanwhile, what's the read on the upcoming "Elysium" series?

Posted by: mrp at July 31, 2013 08:25 AM (HjPtV)

262 "Hippie tears. Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at July 31, 2013 01:19 PM" They really do make the best hate martinis. Hippietinis are awesome. Even more so than Hobotinis.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 31, 2013 08:25 AM (pZ0pM)

263 As for Krauthammer's "astonishment" at the absurd, surreal nature of presidential performance and politics today, uh - where has he been for 5 years?

I recall Kraut basically endorse TFG in 2008 because of Palin's credentials. No mention of TFGs or Biden's credentials, just Palin's. I lost a lot of respect for him at that moment. I no longer find his analysis compelling or persuasive.

Posted by: Bad Chinese Opera at July 31, 2013 12:56 PM (oDCMR)


Yep...yep...yep...exactly why so many of us have thrown our hands in the air, and walked away from the mess. We didn't make the mess, we ain't cleaning it up.

Posted by: All ready been invented at July 31, 2013 08:26 AM (Yy9MJ)

264 Hold fire, it's got Dr. Spanks hash. Posted by: tsrblke at July 31, 2013 01:25 PM (GaqMa)
Well, crappity. But thanks for not knocking me. "Dolt" must be one of those new skool terms of endearment. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 31, 2013 01:25 PM (zF6Iw) I'm reasonably certain the Hot Air button on your computer still works.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at July 31, 2013 08:26 AM (VtjlW)

265 Dr Spank in the library with a candle stick.

Posted by: eleven at July 31, 2013 08:26 AM (KXm42)

266 Hoover was a   big believer in the power    of government also.  He was somewhere to the left of Bush 41.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at July 31, 2013 08:26 AM (wzlt7)

267 As has been noted on previous occasions, the reason Dear Leader can act the way he has is because of  "black democracium".  It's  kryptonite to a large number of voters though.  It makes them swoon,, go limp, and vote for an illusion.

Posted by: Soona at July 31, 2013 08:26 AM (7Rs5x)

268 I read his shitty "Dreams From My Father" book so you wouldn't have to. Posted by: Empire of Jeff That explains that brief period when all your posts were incoherent. Props Man.

Posted by: Daybrother at July 31, 2013 08:26 AM (D/y4/)

269 I read the Daily Caller/Radar Online stories about Lewinsky. Is the actual audio out in public or just the partial transcripts mentioned at Radar? On tablet, can't search. Anyway, Monica's Gingko Blowjoba line must make her so proud today.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 31, 2013 08:28 AM (ZshNr)

270 EoJ, It's been awhile, and I only perused "Dreams", but how many instances do you recall where he talked about Marxists and Communists being his biggest intellectual influences? I recall at least three. And yet liberals get their panties all knotted up in their cracks when you dare to say the guy is a Marxist. I wouldn't be surprised if half of the Obama worshippers who went on and on and on about how he wrote a book actually never even cracked it open.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at July 31, 2013 08:28 AM (cRPJq)

271 Thankfully, no sex tape. Just an audio recording of Lewinsky being nuts.

Posted by: RWC at July 31, 2013 08:28 AM (fWAjv)

272

Something I thought I'd never, ever say:

 

I miss Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Beasts of England at July 31, 2013 08:29 AM (5e7t7)

273 "I have a number of problems with 'The Forgotten Man' by Amity Schlaes but it gives an excellent view of what a monumental fuckup FDR was."

_The New Dealers' War_, by Fleming.

Monumental fuckup indeed. One who not only prolonged the Great Depression by years longer than necessary, but who also got numberless American servicemen killed and maimed via clumsy war policy decisions.

http://www.amazon.com/The-New-Dealers-War-Within/dp/0465024653

Posted by: torquewrench at July 31, 2013 08:29 AM (gqT4g)

274 I read his shitty "Dreams From My Father" book so you wouldn't have to.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff


OMG, how drunk were you or did it require weapons grade pharmaceuticals?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 31, 2013 08:29 AM (kXoT0)

275 Looks like the screechy little troll is back.  Or is it a sock?

Posted by: Soona at July 31, 2013 08:29 AM (7Rs5x)

276 "Hoover was a big believer in the power of government also. He was somewhere to the left of Bush 41."

That's what I recall, too.

Posted by: mrp at July 31, 2013 08:29 AM (HjPtV)

277 you'd think a $800B failure would get some attention, no?

Shit happens.

Posted by: Her Gorelickness at July 31, 2013 08:29 AM (DL2i+)

278 Is #258 our most recent escapee from the retard tank?

Posted by: maddogg at July 31, 2013 08:30 AM (OlN4e)

279
Excellent essay, Ace.

Marxism is just another manifestation of the perennial human problem of barbarians vs civilized (which I think somebody wrote about here recently).  Throughout time, there are conflicting impulses inside of each of us as a human being: to Build Up Society, or to Tear It Down.

Posted by: dan-O at July 31, 2013 08:30 AM (D0bIN)

280 "Anyway, Monica's Gingko Blowjoba line must make her so proud today. Posted by: Lincolntf at July 31, 2013 01:28 PM"

Mommy and Daddy Lewinsky must be sooo proud of their little girl.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 31, 2013 08:30 AM (knoK7)

281 Hoover sucked. Get it?

Posted by: eleven at July 31, 2013 08:30 AM (KXm42)

282 and we end up with two types of people: A. People who worshipped FDR for either (a) winning WWII or (b) for giving them a shiny nickel for working at an alphabet camp during the Great Depression and B. People who hated FDR for fucking everything up. The people in camp A were really, really invested in this mythology. The people in camp B were more of a samizdat kind of thing, eh? I remember going to places in early 90's and seeing posters like "FDR said sit on your ass and light a camel". Also, like Obama, FDR was a trojan horse liberal. He came into power to "fix things" and to do "things smarter" when all he wanted to do was execute a bunch of left wing dream programs.

Posted by: oeJay44incday at July 31, 2013 08:30 AM (QxSug)

283 Posted by: oeJay44incday at July 31, 2013 01:20 PM (QxSug)


here's a hint, Hombre:  Don't make "like, wow" part of your presentation.  Even on the internetz that sounds 12-ish. 


Calling people 'dolts' is also maybe not a good idea, especially if they present valid arguments.   also, making sense would help

Posted by: Slim from San Antonio at July 31, 2013 08:30 AM (omBWL)

284 I'm reasonably certain the Hot Air button on your computer still works.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at July 31, 2013 01:26 PM (VtjlW)

 

??

 

I don't get it.  Have I offended You, Empress?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 31, 2013 08:30 AM (zF6Iw)

285

258

 

Hey dumbass, MATH is the great equalizer. The quislings of the press corps can only blind the public for so long.......

Posted by: MATH, it's whats for dinner.... at July 31, 2013 08:30 AM (61BD9)

286 260 Yes and yes. And don't forget that if they do finish their personal utopia the next thing they always do is start killing each other. So, there's that. There is an Elysium Series coming?

Posted by: Daybrother at July 31, 2013 08:30 AM (gkEtM)

287

It wasn't like, Hoover's Stock Market crash and the next day people were lining up for soup kitchens and started selling apples for a penny on the street corner. That took a grindingly long time.

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iirc, Hoover's responses to the Crash weren't particularly in line with his predecessor Coolidge's "hands off" approach to the economy.  He tried to intervene just like FDR would afterwards, and his policies made the crash worse in the US than it likely otherwise would have been.  But FDR managed to paint Hoover as following Coolidge's approach, and that view of Hoover has managed to stick with the popular imagination over the intervenening decades.

 

Posted by: junior at July 31, 2013 08:30 AM (UWFpX)

288 Thankfully, no sex tape. Just an audio recording of Lewinsky being nuts.

Posted by: RWC at July 31, 2013 01:28 PM (fWAjv)


More like Lewinsky being 19.  Oh what a crush she had and in the end they crushed her.

Posted by: Loco-Tony-motion at July 31, 2013 08:31 AM (bj+Nc)

289 Mommy and Daddy Lewinsky must be sooo proud of their little girl.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 31, 2013 01:30 PM (knoK7)

Yeah, every Dad dreams his precious little girl will turn the family surname into a word meaning blowjob.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 31, 2013 08:31 AM (kXoT0)

290 SomethingI thought I'd never, ever say:

I miss Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Beasts of England at July 31, 2013 01:29 PM (5e7t7)



The only response I have to this will get me up close and personal with the banhammer.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 31, 2013 08:31 AM (Idczg)

291 OK. This old fart will bite.... What the hell is a "Gingko Blowjoba"?

Posted by: MoeRon at July 31, 2013 08:31 AM (TFsVB)

292 I'm one of the few morons who gives McConnell credit for doing more in a position of powerlessness than that boozy emotional retard does heading up the House. I reserve the right to be completely full of shit on occasion, though.

I agree.  McConnell's long game, assuming it's not made up, is still a lot more useful than anything Weeping Johnny does.

At the same time, I can't forget that McConnell's allegedly a willing volunteer for acting out certain of TFG's sex fantasies.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 31, 2013 08:31 AM (B/VB5)

293 Obama's core criticism relies on his "superior knowledge", and therein lies absolute proof of his naivite and ignorance! What truly knowledgable person walks around so self-assured and nasty? Wise people are always doubters, ALWAYS. Obama proves himself an ignorant, mean spirited low-life every time he flips the bird to a political opponent, yes, but also every time he proposes "a bargain" with transparent falsity. He is never sincere, and never serious about anyone else's beliefs. Ignorant puts.

Posted by: MTF at July 31, 2013 08:31 AM (LBUCy)

294 Captain Hate - is that you?

Posted by: Beasts of England at July 31, 2013 08:31 AM (5e7t7)

295 A grassroots group with thousands of members is planning nationwide protests August 6 calling for President Obama’s impeachment. The group, “Overpasses for Impeachment,” has gained steam since launching in mid-June and now appears to have a presence on all 50 states. Scores of protests are on tap, with members taking to overpasses above major throughways during morning and afternoon rush hour brandishing signs calling for impeachment.

Posted by: RWC at July 31, 2013 08:32 AM (fWAjv)

296 "Endless critique. Its essential pathos is indignation, and its essential work is denunciation."

The origin of the left's perpetual outragey outrage.

Posted by: PJ at July 31, 2013 08:32 AM (ZWaLo)

297 280Hoover sucked.



Get it?

Posted by: eleven at July 31, 2013 01:30 PM (KXm42)

My favorite: Whats the difference between a Hoover and a Harley?

(the position of the dirt bag)

Posted by: maddogg at July 31, 2013 08:32 AM (OlN4e)

298 I miss Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Beasts of England at July 31, 2013 01:29 PM (5e7t7)

My much despised Liberal co-worker has an "I miss Bill Clinton" button pinned to her cubicle wall.  When Hillary announces, she will probably have a stroke.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 31, 2013 08:33 AM (kXoT0)

299 It's a shame Lewinsky gate couldn't have happened a few years later, when I'm sure Monica would've had a smartphone to secretly record her trysts with Willie.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 31, 2013 08:33 AM (ZshNr)

300 More like Lewinsky being 19. Oh what a crush she had and in the end they crushed her. Posted by: Loco-Tony-motion at July 31, 2013 01:31 PM (bj+Nc) The 'woman' served her purpose, then she got uppity. Had to be done.

Posted by: RWC at July 31, 2013 08:33 AM (fWAjv)

301 "Gingko Blowjoba"

I think that's a fuckup of "gingko biloba" (likely spelled wrong), which was *the* hot bullshit natural/organic/vegan pill to take in the mid-90s.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 31, 2013 08:33 AM (B/VB5)

302 Ginko Biloba is a kind of herbal something something. I think it's like herbal caffeine or speed. Don't get the play on words though.

Posted by: eleven at July 31, 2013 08:34 AM (KXm42)

303 "Yeah, every Dad dreams his precious little girl will turn the family surname into a word meaning blowjob.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 31, 2013 01:31 PM"

Is it wrong to pine for a time when a father could go all Aaron Burr on someone's ass for that?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 31, 2013 08:34 AM (knoK7)

304 "There is an Elysium Series coming?"

I saw an ad while channel-surfing last night.  Looked something like "Firefly" with CGI on steroids.

Posted by: mrp at July 31, 2013 08:34 AM (HjPtV)

305 "Gingko Blowjoba "is what Monica claims to have sent Bill as a gift, per the transcript at radar.

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 31, 2013 08:34 AM (ZshNr)

306 What the hell is a "Gingko Blowjoba"?

Posted by: MoeRon at July 31, 2013 01:31 PM (TFsVB)

Quoting from the transcript of the article CarolT linked to regarding the Lewinsky sex tape.

“First, I forgot to tell you that the Gingko Blowjoba, or whatever it’s called, was from me,” Lewinsky wrote in one romantic note to Clinton.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 31, 2013 08:35 AM (kXoT0)

307 290 OK. This old fart will bite.... What the hell is a "Gingko Blowjoba"? Posted by: MoeRon In the '90s there was an herbal medicine derived from the gingko biloba tree that was briefly trendy as a supplement to boost libido. Monica sent Clinton some ginkgo biloba pills to take, a sa sort of sexy racy gift, but naughtily referred to them as "Gingko Blowjoba," since the purpose of the pills was to give him a hard-on so she could then give him a blow job. (BTW, later studies proved that Ginkgo Biloba really does nothing at all for your pecker.)

Posted by: zombie at July 31, 2013 08:36 AM (+cx5n)

308 Along with zinc lozenges, which was mighty thoughtful of her. Though I suppose she'd be the one with the sore throat...

Posted by: Lincolntf at July 31, 2013 08:36 AM (ZshNr)

309 Mommy and Daddy Lewinsky must be sooo proud of their little girl.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 31, 2013 01:30 PM (knoK7)



By being an intern, that meant that her dad was a major donk contributor.  I think I recall him being more pissed off that Republicans were able to take advantage of it than Clenis spooged all over his not so little girl and subsequently tried to have her blamed as a stalker before the blue dress was found.  Father of the Year imo.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 31, 2013 08:36 AM (Idczg)

310 Mary Poppins, nah, I was really referring to all the other times I read stuff like that, I knew you were summarizing it. See? Anyway, Hoover may have sucked, like eleven said but here's the thing: the leftwing mythmaking circus will have us believe that he was a straight up free market guy who stood back and let things solve themselves, much like they're going to say about Buooooosh. When it seems that Hoober and Boooosh both tried a bunch of interventionist ideas, like "I had to violate the concepts of the free markets to save it," or whatever Booooosh mumbled when he signed tarp or whatever god awful thing it was that Obama now uses as an excuse that "see, I inherited a deficit" bullshit. anyway, Obama is lazy and boring and Rush is right, he's campaigning against whoever's been in office for the last 5 years. and also, the GOP has surrendered the intellectual ground for at least the last 7 years and we won't win the moderates until someone actually says what's what. FDR fucked things up so good and was so protected by the media that it took a genial popular war hero to take the reins from the DNC, and even then during the post WWII boom time that Ike never got credit for, it would take Reagan to really explain things, but that Reagan revolution we just learned was super easy to fucking tear apart and now we're basically in the FDR days again, waiting for: A some super popular GOP candidate like Ike to save us. B. another reagan who can say pretty words and who can intelligently defend conservatism to come along. but alas, so far, we've got John "the democrats aren't so bad" mcCain and Mitt "the resume" Romney.

Posted by: oeJay44incday at July 31, 2013 08:37 AM (QxSug)

311 Is it wrong to pine for a time when a father could go all Aaron Burr on someone's ass for that?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 31, 2013 01:34 PM (knoK7)

No, my Dad would have immured me in my bedroom with the door nailed shut and then killed the guy.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 31, 2013 08:37 AM (kXoT0)

312 WHOOPS must be Chris Hayes. Remember, he believes George Wallace was a Republican.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at July 31, 2013 01:23 PM (OWjjx)


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He's also upset that raping and pillaging rates have gone down. And bemoans the incarceration of criminals and pedophiles.




Posted by: dananjcon at July 31, 2013 08:37 AM (jvd3N)

313 "Father of the Year imo.  Posted by: Captain Hate at July 31, 2013 01:36 PM"

True.

Amends earlier post to "when a father would go all Aaron Burr on someone's ass for that."

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 31, 2013 08:38 AM (knoK7)

314 slim: wow, just wow.

Posted by: oeJay44incday at July 31, 2013 08:38 AM (QxSug)

315 Captain Hate - is that you?

Posted by: Beasts of England at July 31, 2013 01:31 PM (5e7t7)



I was wondering the same from you, Beasts.  Welcome to the site where we can let profanity run rampant.  The SEC of the interwebz, to use an analogy I know you'll appreciate.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 31, 2013 08:39 AM (Idczg)

316 OK.  I checked IMDB and "Elysium" is a movie.

Posted by: mrp at July 31, 2013 08:39 AM (HjPtV)

317 In any event my point is not that he is expressly Marxist but he comes from the intellectual pit from which most leftists do, a pit in which one finds Critical Race Theory (expressly Marxist; again, relying upon Critique as its main weapon), Critical Gender Theory (ditto, but Marxism Lite for Gurlz), Critical Queer Theory, Crit Crit Crit Crit Crit. Posted by: ace at July 31, 2013 12:55 PM (/IWYB) So what's the endgame? The endgame of critical theory is the destruction of the dominant culture so it can be replaced. All the different little groups attack not each other, although there are enormous differences between them, but the larger "American Way", which is what we conservatives are trying to conserve. What we've got going for us is that traditional American culture and rule of law is enormously powerful-the greatest engine of wealth creation and freedom in the history of mankind, but unchecked they will eventually defeat us. 2 bee stings is annoying, 20 painful, 200 excruciating and 2000 deadly to even the strongest person. We WILL lose eventually (which seems to be awful close these days) unless we get these groups to turn their venom on each other. Will that happen? There are fault lines, the interests of blacks are becoming more and more antithetical to the needs of illegals, I'm praying daily for the discovery of a genetic "gay gene" and the resulting bloodbath between the gay lobby and the feminazis over orientation selective abortion, just to name two, but right now I'd say it's pick 'em odds.

Posted by: Weirddave at July 31, 2013 08:39 AM (aH+zP)

318 I'm praying daily for the discovery of a genetic "gay gene" and the resulting bloodbath between the gay lobby and the feminazis over orientation selective abortion, just to name two, but right now I'd say it's pick 'em odds.

Posted by: Weirddave at July 31, 2013 01:39 PM (aH+zP)

Yeah, that one will be epic.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes C'est Magnifique at July 31, 2013 08:41 AM (kXoT0)

319

Posted by: oeJay44incday at July 31, 2013 01:37 PM (QxSug)

 

Ah, got it.  Hard to know tone of voice from postings.  No offense, then.

 

Although I still don't know why AtC told me to screw over to Hot Air.

 

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 31, 2013 08:41 AM (zF6Iw)

320

<i>I was wondering the same from you, Beasts. Welcome to the site where we can let profanity run rampant. The SEC of the interwebz, to use an analogy I know you'll appreciate.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 31, 2013 01:39 PM (Idczg)</i>

Very much - thanks!

Posted by: Beasts of England at July 31, 2013 08:42 AM (5e7t7)

321 "very obtuse; knock all you want, but the economies of the world powers began to fall apart in 1930--while Herbert H was in power. Hoover got the blame, and FDR presented himself as the Cure." Gee, who was in charge in the 30's Hitler Stalin Mussolini FDR Chamberlain Most of the anglosphere was being led by totalitarians or economic inepts of one type or another.

Posted by: oeJay44incday at July 31, 2013 08:43 AM (QxSug)

322

torquewrench @199, sorry but the micron-deep cheap-seat critique of the inevitably messy and flawed response to 9/11 by Bush is both beyond the scope of this thread, and yet one more reason I have given up (i.e., because it is believed by folks like you who are obviously otherwise NOT part of the problem, but in fact the smart and reasonable ones).

 

Snarky bloc comment section response:  "OK, Metternich, leaving aside the obvious throw-away diplomatic nicety-nature of Bush's rhetoric in acknowledging that Pakistan and Saudi Arabia were UNAVOIDABLY going to be key in fighting AQ, how exactly would you have run things?"

 

More sincere friendly-yet-despairing response:  both operationally and fundamentally, engagement with lots of dubious partners was required both to destroy AQ's then-realized infrastructure and personnel, and to grapple with the pre-cursor elements that created and sustained AQ in the first place.  Most analogies are flawed, but as imperfect analogies go, the Allied embrace of Stalin's USSR to defeat Hitler is pretty good. 

 

And you are suprisingly (seemingly) naieve about how we ended up with a degraded, ridiculous government:  Bush came nowhere near screwing the pooch (in ANY area) that would normally explain/justify the level of national hysteria and idiocy we saw from 2003 onwards.  That, of course, was a result of the collapsed media and civic culture, topics that are the underlying, unspoken (mostly) subjects of this very thread .....

 

Posted by: non-purist at July 31, 2013 08:43 AM (afQnV)

323 Filing away that Lewinsky recording for Hillary's 2016 run.

Monica may have been 19, but Bill wasn't. He should have known better, but his appetite is insatiable. And Hillary should be made to pay for hitching her wagon to that. Because you just know they're going to pitch the "fabulous political marriage" crap again.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 31, 2013 08:44 AM (xvolr)

324 Gee, who was in charge in the 30's

Hitler
Stalin
Mussolini
FDR
Chamberlain
--

And a galaxy of Frenchmen.

Posted by: mrp at July 31, 2013 08:44 AM (HjPtV)

325 " 237 Just read the post. Shorter translation:

Candidate Community Organizer (ie, rabble rouser) is now President Community Organizer.

He is doing the only thing he knows how to do."   Yes, I've noticed that people read all kinds of things into what Obama does, without realizing how simple it is. Nobody ever seemed to ask the question, "Just what is a community organizer, and how is that a real job?"  Well, "community organizer" is a euphemism for "grassroots socialist agitator." Dirty political tricks and class warfare rhetoric is all they have to work with - it's all they BELIEVE IN. They don't believe that wealth is created by doing work, but rather that it is "natural resources" that are just sitting around being "stolen" by rich people.  As to the "dirty political tricks", I give you all the "phony scandals" that the media only feels comfortable talking about now, because it's too late. Obama considers every part of the govt to be his own personal political tool.  Even the f-ing census was a political tool - remember how it was all about Hispanics?  As to the endless campaigning, even now, there's also the fact that he's the quintessential narcissist. When he gives stump speeches, he's always singing to the choir, because it's all about him being adored. No need to read anything clever into it. It's weird, and it's because he has the worst case of NPD known to man.

Posted by: Optimizer at July 31, 2013 08:45 AM (Mxt9o)

326

Posted by: Weirddave at July 31, 2013 01:39 PM (aH+zP)

 

 

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There's going to be a lot  more destruction of American traditions and values before  this preezy leaves office.  He wasn't kidding in 2012 when he said he needed more time.  Every time he said it, I cringed, because I knew what was coming.  Anyone who has even a basic understanding of history should have seen what was coming.

Posted by: Soona at July 31, 2013 08:46 AM (7Rs5x)

327 and Hoover was president until 1933, FDR was then president until 1945. My point is the great depression continued on until 1941 when we entered WWII. those 8 years between whatever it was hoover did and Pearl Harbor are the long grind.

Posted by: oeJay44incday at July 31, 2013 08:47 AM (QxSug)

328 Having dejavu trying to predict what will come next. Fun.

Posted by: RWC at July 31, 2013 08:48 AM (fWAjv)

329 "The endgame of critical theory is the destruction of the dominant culture so it can be replaced."

Yes.

I once asked in grad school, What is the point of all this critical theory?

Prof: Well, it's just one way to analyze a film, say, from a certain perspective, like Marxist or even Christian perspectives.

Me: Well, why don't we ever hear or read an analysis of film from a Christian perspective then?

Prof: *deer in headlights expression*

Posted by: PJ at July 31, 2013 08:49 AM (ZWaLo)

330 And, speaking of GinkoBlowjobba, there's a new headline (above the main headline) at Drudge: MOVE OVER WEINER: Lewinsky sex recording to Bill surfaces... There's some sort of autoplay thing at the link, though.

Posted by: Arbalest at July 31, 2013 08:50 AM (FlRtG)

331 Calling Obama a Marxist is giving him far too much credit intellectually.
Whatever anyone thinks of Marx he is not an easy study.
Can you imagine this lazy, half-educated, AA slug pouring over Kapital? This guy, by his own admission, can't handle seventh grade math.

He, like the rest of his ilk, wouldn't know Karl Marx from skid marks.While he most certainly employs the flabby rhetoric and strategies of the neo-Marxist charlatans, from an economic perspective Obama looks more like a corporatist than anything else.

Posted by: Kim at July 31, 2013 08:51 AM (ICqvM)

332 OT:  How cutting edge is the HQ?  A week or more ago we were on about flying saucer cattle mutilations.  Now Drudge has finally caught up.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 31, 2013 08:57 AM (Hx5uv)

333

Actually he looks more like a retard than anything else. There is so much wrong with Obama, it will fill endless volumes once the current crop of palace guards have fallen by the wayside.

 

Obama will be remembered as a disaster; the ultimate one-hit wonder rock star that everyone fell in love with at a time, yet no one later can recall as to why. Strange how that happens. Then those enablers will do it again with yet another fascist and again will be aghast at the fail. "But he/she meant so well!" they'll scream.

 

My greatest fear isn't Obama. It's in the person down the line who's worse than Obama. Because of the lines drawn by King Dumbass during his reign, the board is set for someone worse down the line to truly end the American experiment and convert the Republic into a proper dictatorship. Just thought I'd add some more sunshine in here.

Posted by: sans_sheriff at July 31, 2013 09:00 AM (Lljg2)

334 PJ, lol.

Posted by: oeJay44incday at July 31, 2013 09:01 AM (QxSug)

335 (BTW, later studies proved that Ginkgo Biloba really does nothing at all for your pecker.) Posted by: zombie at July 31, 2013 01:36 PM (+cx5n) I never know what I'll learn from fellow 'Rons and 'Rettes....but damn, I'm at the age when a little "Ginkgo Biloba" might help me, from time to time.... This blog kind of reminds me of the old Baltimore Catechism that I would take home and memorize from grades 2 through 7....The information is there, now all I have to do is use it.

Posted by: MoeRon at July 31, 2013 09:15 AM (TFsVB)

336 Amnesty completes the collapse from within.

Posted by: gracepmc at July 31, 2013 09:18 AM (rznx3)

337 I'm wondering what took Krauthammer so long. There were numerous commentators, bloggers, and other critics describing Obama's modus operandi from almost the moment he took office.

Posted by: The Devil you say at July 31, 2013 09:19 AM (FxAgj)

338 We WILL lose eventually (which seems to be awful close these days) unless we get these groups to turn their venom on each other. Will that happen? There are fault lines, the interests of blacks are becoming more and more antithetical to the needs of illegals, I'm praying daily for the discovery of a genetic "gay gene" and the resulting bloodbath between the gay lobby and the feminazis over orientation selective abortion, just to name two, but right now I'd say it's pick 'em odds.

Posted by: Weirddave at July 31, 2013 01:39 PM (aH+zP)

 

That is why Obama is fighting hardest to avoid ANY cuts in federal spending,  If you notice, his shrillest rhetoric has been about the sequester. 

 

Once the REAL cuts start, the liberal groups who depend on federal funding stop fighting us and start fighting each other for the scraps.  W.R. Mead has written extensively on this.  The debt and the borrowing must continue so all the constituencies of the left will keep their funding and keep their focus on eradicating all conservative opposition.  I.e. keep them pissing out of the tent instead of inside the tent. 

Posted by: rockmom at July 31, 2013 09:38 AM (qE3AR)

339 Amnesty completes the collapse from within.

 

Posted by: gracepmc at July 31, 2013 02:18 PM (rznx3)

 

It accelerates it, for sure.  Mexico is already an essentially socialist country, and while people leave there to escpae the grinding poverty that has inevitably resulted from that socialism, they come here with the mindset that government is supposed to take care of you and give you free health care and other stuff.  The Rule of Law barely exists in Mexico.  So Mexicans are especially ripe for Obama style rhetoric and will join ther other LIVs in demanding a fundamental change in our government in order to guarantee them what they think they want:  a risk-free life with a guaranteed income and free health care, plus a few other niceties like a house and a car thet they couldn't afford back in Mexico.  And they will vote for whoever promises them that, and they have no loyalty to our form of government so they can be easily convinced that it is standing in the way of their dreams. 

 

It looks from here like Obama has not quite succeeded the way he wanted to, in convincing a solid majority of Americans that our system of government must be dismantled.  So, he plots to inmport a new electorate that will be more easily convinced. 

Posted by: rockmom at July 31, 2013 09:45 AM (NYnoe)

340

Actually, rockmom, Mexico defies easy labelling - it's certainly not socialist in the old Soviet or even western European quasi-socialist sense.  More of a 1930s corporatist small-club "democracy" grafted onto a post-colonial Latin American rigid class-and-race-based society (hmmm, that doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, does it?!).

 

But to avoid becoming the thread terminology monitor (having already quibbled over "Marxist" as applied to the idiotic president), I'll stop right there, other than to agree with and praise the rest of your analysis re Mexico and Mexican immigrants (at least most of them).

 

I have several older friends who grew up here in SoCal with and remain friends with the previous generations of Mexican immigrants (legal).  No surprise - very solid law-and-freedom loving Americans of the older variety.  My explanation:  "Americanization" worked on previous immigrants.  They DID incorporate the key values - individual freedom and responsibility, rule of law, etc. - into their psyches when they came (or as they raised their kids) .  Obviously, the tenements of eastern cities displayed exactly the same phenomenon from the great European immigration from 1900 onwards. 

 

I'm sure there are more wheels turning in the machine than that (society itself changing), but it's almost depressing to review, with wonder, how the US just one/two generations ago actually DID grow and thrive largely through importing humans who adopted the ingenious simple keys to American success. 

 

Posted by: non-purist at July 31, 2013 10:12 AM (afQnV)

341 Obama is not a leader. He is an agitator. Not only is it what he is best at, it is what he was put in office to do. The anonymous "czars," the deputy assistant secretaries, the agency chief counsels, the DOJ Civil Rights Division and its 102 new left-wing lawyers -- THOSE are the people who are effecting the "change" Obama spoke about in his 2008 campaign. Obama is the Agitator-In-Chief. His constant agitating is designed to maintain and expand a base of voters who are low-information and easily manipulated.

The plan is not to abruptly overthrow our constitutional system of checks and balances and federalism. It is to convince a permanent majority of voters to demand it.

Posted by: rockmom at July 31, 2013 12:27 PM (aBlZ1)

 

 

^^^

THIS

Posted by: LGoPs at July 31, 2013 10:35 AM (lL1xY)

342

Ok. How the hell do I copy someones else's comment and then insert enough lines to make my own comment without getting jumbled in with theirs?

 

Formatting really sucks here. I know there's a reason for it but I forget.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 31, 2013 10:37 AM (lL1xY)

343 a blast from the no longer silent era past: "Today, democracy, liberty, and equality are words to fool the people. No nation can progress with such ideas. They stand in the way of action. Therefore, we frankly abolish them. In the future, each man will serve the interest of the State with absolute obedience. Let him who refuses beware!" -- Henry Daniell, as Garbitsch, introducing Charles Chaplin disguised as Hynkel. "I'm sorry, but I don't want to be an emperor. That's not my business. I don't want to rule or conquer anyone. I should like to help everyone if possible; Jew, Gentile, black man, white. We all want to help one another. Human beings are like that. We want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone, and the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone. The way of life can be free and beautiful, but we have lost the way. Greed has poisoned men's souls, has barricaded the world with hate, has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in. Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge has made us cynical; our cleverness, hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. The airplane and the radio have brought us closer together. ... To those who can hear me, I say, do not despair. The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed, the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish. Soldiers! Don't give yourselves to brutes, men who despise you, enslave you; who regiment your lives, tell you what to do, what to think and what to feel! Who drill you, diet you, treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder. Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men - machine men with machine minds and machine hearts! You are not machines, you are not cattle, you are men! You have the love of humanity in your hearts! You don't hate! Only the unloved hate; the unloved and the unnatural. Soldiers! Don't fight for slavery! Fight for liberty! In the seventeenth chapter of St. Luke, it is written that the kingdom of God is within man, not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you! You, the people, have the power, the power to create machines, the power to create happiness! You, the people, have the power to make this life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure. Then in the name of democracy, let us use that power. Let us all unite. Let us fight for a new world, a decent world that will give men a chance to work, that will give youth a future and old age a security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power. But they lie! They do not fulfill that promise. They never will! Dictators free themselves but they enslave the people. -- Chaplin's final speech, disguised as Hynkel. Charlie Chaplin's "The Great Dictator" (1940) masterwork met with universal opposition throughout it's production and distribution. Chaplin had to do it all himself. So he did. In 1941, Chaplin was among the filmmakers subpoenaed by a Senate subcommittee investigating pro-war propaganda in Hollywood films, and later charged as a Communist by McCarthy. At the height of World War II, Chaplin withdrew the film from circulation, knowing that the international situation lampooned in the film would now be hard to laugh at. He had made it before the Third Reich had formalized it's "final solution" yet shrouded from the public forum.

Posted by: panzernashorn at July 31, 2013 10:40 AM (MhA4j)

344 "The plan is not to abruptly overthrow our constitutional system of checks and balances and federalism. It is to convince a permanent majority of voters to demand it. Posted by: rockmom at July 31, 2013 12:27 PM (aBlZ1) 340 ^^^THIS Posted by: LGoPs Either, Or? Both. In the dissolution of constitutional governance by authoritarian bureaucrats, activist judges, legislators, and administrations, CONDITION the people to accept the "new" norm like toads in a sauce pan of water heating on the stove. Kids these days are so damned ignorant, they have no idea beyond stuffing their orifices and accumulating stuff, at other's expense. And the population at large is so under the influence of drugs/alcohol, or at least so damned fed up they just refuse to think any more, that even if they knew something, they've forgotten, become unaware often by choice, evading the politically incorrect "uncomfortable" record. Hence, revisionism thrives. The ol' Mary Poppins' technique: a spoon full of sugar helps you crave "what's good for you" according to your "betters".

Posted by: panzernashorn at July 31, 2013 10:55 AM (MhA4j)

345 LGoPs at July 31, 2013 03:37 PM (lL1xY) ****** I don't know. I know that pasting in something that was in a Word Doc tends to get all screwed up. Maybe use Notepad? Anyway, when it gets all fucked up, (your comment formating), you get punished by being put in the Barrel. You don't want to be put in the Barrel. I don't want to talk about this anymore.

Posted by: Taco Shack at July 31, 2013 10:55 AM (C+qQ0)

346 Ace quotes Krauthammer: "He talks about this in the abstract and he actually gets away with it in a way that I find absolutely astonishing, it's magical."

Two words:  Affirmative Action.  And two more:  Political Correctness.  Nobody has the courage to stand up and say to BHO, "You lie."  (Well, one guy did.  Whatever happened to him?)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 01, 2013 08:14 AM (BDU/a)

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