January 31, 2015

Obama, The Secret Muslim [OregonMuse]
— Open Blogger

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.

We're all familiar with this Obama quote, right? I see it repeated a lot on conservative blogs, usually offered up as evidence that Obama is either secretly a Muslim, or, at the very least, bowing the knee to Islamic supremacy.

After seeing this a few times, I found the speech where he said it, and read the whole thing. Given the context of the speech, I believe the assertion that the statement in question constitutes some sort of endorsement or acknowledgement of Islamic exceptionalism is incorrect.

I am not by any means defending or endorsing Obama's speech. It is a dumb speech packed full of dumb. But it doesn't say what some think it does.

I never could quite see Obama seeing a secret Muslim. What he is, I believe, is a "transnational progressive" (Steven Den Beste's legendary USS Clueless blog had an excellent essay about what transnational progressivism is and what it aims to achieve).

I believe it is quite out of the question for a thorough-going transnational progressive like Obama to be an adherent of any major religion. TPism only concerns itself with this world, never the next. Therefore, the greatest, most powerful entity known to TPism is the state, and in fact, Mussolini's vision, "all within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state" fits in very nicely with TP goals and aspirations. Which is ironic, given the propensity of TPists to label their critics "fascists" at the drop of a hat.

So this lame speech is one given at the U.N. by Obama in the wake of the Benghazi terrorist attack that claimed the life of the U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens. At the time of this speech, the Obama administration was still pushing the lie that the rioting was caused by an inflammatory YouTube video. During the speech, Obama said all sorts of things about who the future does and does not belong to, including:

Today, we must reaffirm that our future will be determined by people like Chris Stevens, and not by his killers.

The future must not belong to those who target Coptic Christians in Egypt

The future must not belong to those who bully women

The future must not belong to those corrupt few who steal a country’s resources

And then, working in the bogus "inflammatory video" angle, Obama said:

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.

But then he adds:

But to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated, or churches that are destroyed, or the Holocaust that is denied.

From this, it should be obvious that he's not holding up Islam as superior, he's saying that all religions should be treated with equal respect, by all. In other words, in the aftermath of murderous violence of obvious Islamoterrorist origin, Obama can do no better than to offer up weak platitudes, essentially a rehash of Rodney King's "can't we all just get along?" speech. In a venue filled with representatives of hostile Islamic countries that regularly harass, oppress and maybe even murder their Christian minorities, Obama is asking them to "condemn hate".

Really.

How dumb is that?

How completely, stupifyingly, mind-bogglingly, jaw-droppingly, gobsmackingly dumb is that?

So the reason Obama says crap like that is not because he's a secret Muslim. No, Obama says these things because he's a dumbass. A world-class dumbass. A transnational dumbass. Compared to him, Jimmy Carter was a freaking genius. Obama is not a secret Muslim because he's not smart enough to be a secret Muslim. If he ever tried to be a Muslim, he'd probably do all sorts of dumb stuff like holding the Quran upside down or praying in the opposite direction so he'd be mooning Mecca.

I admit it'd be pretty funny to watch.

Here is John Bolton's reaction to the speech, and he doesn't say anything about Obama's alleged endorsement of Islamic exceptionalism. And all of us here know that if the 'Stache ever heard anything like that, he'd be the first to call it for what it is. His take on it is pretty much "So Obama comes out in favor of tolerance. This is news?"

So that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 03:18 PM | Comments (302)
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1 I agree with this. "Dreams From My Father" was light on Islam; heavy on a search for personal identity that wasn't white. Also, Obama ate a dog.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 03:11 PM (AVEe1)

2 He is as profound as a greeting card.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at January 31, 2015 03:11 PM (g+akU)

3 Besides, being a secret Muslim he would be acknowledging a deity greater than himself and, honestly, can you see him doing that?

Posted by: Mikey NTH at January 31, 2015 03:13 PM (g+akU)

4 WTF is everybody in bed already?

Posted by: Cicero Skip at January 31, 2015 03:13 PM (FIrEF)

5 Thanks for doing the hard work in listening to that piece of shit babble. I did not know the context because I'd rather listen to myself shit and fart on the toilet. Thus, I'd never heard his stupid fucking words. You're right. He's just a fucking dumbass. It's a relief that he's just a fucking dumbass instead of a muslim supremacist dumbass. But then again, he's willing to support any enemy of the US, so there's that dumbass aspect to his stupid fucking idiocy too.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at January 31, 2015 03:14 PM (scgac)

6 Is Transnational Progressivism = New World Odor?

Posted by: Taqyia2Me at January 31, 2015 03:15 PM (PiGvm)

7 In 2004, then State Senator Obama gave an interview to the Chicago Sun-Times talking about his faith. I think it's incredibly illuminating as to what his faith is, and I'll agree, he's no "secret Muslim." He's a mushy-headed, postmodern deist with who has abandoned any semblance of coherence or reason in his world view in favor of fluffy sentiment and the shallowest of platitudes. http://preview.tinyurl.com/o7f6jp6

Posted by: Hal at January 31, 2015 03:15 PM (nzmxZ)

8 I kinda thought it was the whole "my Muslim faith" bit.

Posted by: bananaDream at January 31, 2015 03:15 PM (vLk7c)

9 Well, at least Obama finally produced a memorable quote.

Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2015 03:15 PM (qyomX)

10 He ate a dog. Full stop.

Posted by: jmel at January 31, 2015 03:15 PM (cfFqn)

11 His father= radical muslim His brothers= muslim brotherhood He has an affinity for islam for sure!

Posted by: usamabinlaiden at January 31, 2015 03:15 PM (YUrBn)

12 I want to see Obama recite the Lord's Prayer by memory. He says he is a Christian. I sincerely doubt it.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 31, 2015 03:16 PM (rXJ1Y)

13 Well, at least Obama finally produced a memorable quote. He's got a lot of those but they all make him look like an arrogant douche. "You didn't build that!"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 03:17 PM (AVEe1)

14 1. Elect a guy (twice!) who doesn't much like America. Or Americans. 2. ??? 3. Profit!

Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2015 03:17 PM (qyomX)

15

The only thing that Obama worships is his reflection in the mirror.

 

Narcissus looks at Obama and goes "Damn that dude is full of himself."

Posted by: buzzion at January 31, 2015 03:17 PM (zt+N6)

16 13 He's got a lot of those but they all make him look like an arrogant douche. "You didn't build that!" Conveying the truth is the essence of good communication.

Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2015 03:18 PM (qyomX)

17 If you want the Ithna Ashari Shia to declare war on Barky, just tell them this - - Lassie was all primed to pull Muhammad the Mahdi from that well, but then someone ate her. *urrrp*

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 03:18 PM (AVEe1)

18 12 I want to see Obama recite the Lord's Prayer by memory. He says he is a Christian. I sincerely doubt it. Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 31, 2015 08:16 PM (rXJ1Y) In the interview I posted, Obama is specifically asked, "Who is Jesus to you?" Obama responds: Jesus is an historical figure for me, and he's also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher. And he's also a wonderful teacher. I think it's important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history. No Christian would answer the question like that. Obama is many things, but a Christian isn't one of them.

Posted by: Hal at January 31, 2015 03:19 PM (nzmxZ)

19 12 I want to see Obama recite the Lord's Prayer by memory. He says he is a Christian. I sincerely doubt it. Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 31, 2015 08:16 PM (rXJ1Y) In the interview I posted, Obama is specifically asked, "Who is Jesus to you?" Obama responds: Jesus is an historical figure for me, and he's also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher. And he's also a wonderful teacher. I think it's important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history. No Christian would answer the question like that. Obama is many things, but a Christian isn't one of them.

Posted by: Hal at January 31, 2015 03:19 PM (nzmxZ)

20 Obama doesn't have the discipline to follow any religion. Mikey NTH (comment #2) got it exactly right too.

Posted by: Corona at January 31, 2015 03:19 PM (fh2Y7)

21 1. Elect a guy (twice!) who doesn't much like America. Or Americans. 2. ??? 3. Profit! So... we can't count on your vote for Jeb, then? Okay, okay; Jeb half-likes America. Since America half-voted for his brother, the guy who jumped the quote ahead of him. Because Florida voted against Jeb first time he ran. So Jeb 49.5% likes America.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 03:20 PM (AVEe1)

22 Can't Obama be so effed-up that he has no idea what he is except that he's in love with himself? I don't think he's a Muslim, but I also don't think it makes any difference if he is or is not. He will always do the dumb thing and the wrong thing.

Posted by: eman at January 31, 2015 03:21 PM (MQEz6)

23 The future does not belong to those who deflate my balls.

Posted by: Tom Brady at January 31, 2015 03:21 PM (FcR7P)

24 19 Obama responds: Jesus is an historical figure for me, and he's also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher. And he's also a wonderful teacher. I think it's important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history. So basically Jesus is Obama, just the historical version? I'm trying to imagine a Christian who would open with "Jesus is an historical figure to me."

Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2015 03:21 PM (qyomX)

25 No Christian would answer the question like that. It reads like the sort of thing a rabbi in Toledo would say to an inquisitor.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 03:22 PM (AVEe1)

26 Also, Obama ate a dog. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 08:11 PM (AVEe1) And fucked a goat

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2015 03:22 PM (u/Asb)

27 Honestly I don't give a rat's ass what Fredo says. it is what he does that bothers me.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2015 03:23 PM (nzKvP)

28 The future does not belong to New Detroit.

Posted by: Corona at January 31, 2015 03:23 PM (fh2Y7)

29 25 It reads like the sort of thing a rabbi in Toledo would say to an inquisitor. Disagree. The rabbi would do a better job. Those guys think, you see.

Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2015 03:23 PM (qyomX)

30 Trans national progressive, ya, ok, and so. . .

Posted by: Hyper Fennec at January 31, 2015 03:23 PM (IKtFK)

31 Both Carter and Obama hold the American people in contempt.  Carter didn't have the Race Card to play, though. 

Bill Clinton probably had the same feelings of contempt--he is a Democrat, after all--but his need to be beloved was greater than his contempt.

Posted by: Null at January 31, 2015 03:23 PM (xjpRj)

32 Bill Clinton - "I did it with pigs!"

Posted by: Corona at January 31, 2015 03:24 PM (fh2Y7)

33 Obama firmly believes that there is only one god. He also thinks he's it.

Posted by: Klown 2.0 at January 31, 2015 03:25 PM (5fSr7)

34 25 No Christian would answer the question like that. It reads like the sort of thing a rabbi in Toledo would say to an inquisitor. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 08:22 PM (AVEe1) "Um, ah, Jesus lived a long time ago and didn't speak English. He was the first Christian and died three days before he undied."

Posted by: eman at January 31, 2015 03:25 PM (MQEz6)

35 I completely agree Obama is not a secret Muslim. And I have tried to dissuade people I know for the last eight years when they have seen an e-mail or video that "proves" Obama is a secret Muslim who is going bring about a Caliphate.


Obama is a narcissist and not in any way a serious thinker. Also a total creation of the Western Left. All these things point to Obama being an atheist.


His sympathies lie with Islam only in the way that his sympathies lie with anything that is anti-Western, anti-traditional.


 

Posted by: cm9000 at January 31, 2015 03:25 PM (8zCR+)

36 I don't think he's a Muslim, but I also don't think it makes any difference if he is or is not. He'll support anyone against Western ideals, as it long as it requires absolutely zero effort on his part. Because he's still in college. The world is his campus and he's here on a full ride.

Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2015 03:25 PM (FcR7P)

37 Barry is a tranzy.

Posted by: otho at January 31, 2015 03:25 PM (tBSrv)

38 Obama says these things because he's a dumbass. A world-class dumbass. A transnational dumbass. A gargantuan dumbass. A brobdingnagian dumbass. A weapons-strength dumbass. I'm sure that Teh Horde can come up with more ways to describe JugEars' superlative variations of dumbass.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 31, 2015 03:25 PM (krgKs)

39 No, he's a muslim. "My muslim faith" He grew up in a muslim household and though he is too full of himself to think there is any God but himself, he is culturally and spiritually muslim. They are his people. We are his enemy.

Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2015 03:25 PM (MYCIw)

40 A brave post and one backed up with actual evidence. Agreed he's probably not a secret muslim. Unfortunately the strident anti-Americanism and kneecapping of the country on every level more than makes up for any involvement with Islam.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 31, 2015 03:26 PM (oFCZn)

41 31 Bill Clinton probably had the same feelings of contempt--he is a Democrat, after all--but his need to be beloved was greater than his contempt. I don't think so. His need to be beloved was the central fact of his existence, and, to his credit, he genuinely likes and engages with people, unlike certain Presidents I could name. I think political philosophy was not central to Clinton's existence. Had he grown up a Republican, he might have done great things for our side. If they were popular, that is.

Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2015 03:26 PM (qyomX)

42 He can't even pretend to be a Christian without messing it up.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at January 31, 2015 03:27 PM (dFi94)

43 No Christian would answer the question like that. Obama is many things, but a Christian isn't one of them. Posted by: Hal at January 31, 2015 08:19 PM ( That's between him & Christ He's a muzzie sympathizer

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2015 03:27 PM (u/Asb)

44 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 31, 2015 03:28 PM (4gN5w)

45 It reads like the sort of thing a rabbi in Toledo would say to an inquisitor.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 08:22 PM (AVEe1)

 

A rabbi would not be questioned by an inquisitor.

Posted by: buzzion at January 31, 2015 03:28 PM (zt+N6)

46 Barrack Obama's middle name is NOT "Hussein."

Posted by: Vox at January 31, 2015 03:29 PM (lG2E3)

47 39 He grew up in a muslim household and though he is too full of himself to think there is any God but himself, he is culturally and spiritually muslim. They are his people. We are his enemy. You may have a point here, but it has limits. Tribally, he may identify with Muslims more than, say, a Republican who owns three auto repair shops. But philosophically, I don't think he's prepared to accept any deity greater than himself. And spiritually...well, I'm not sure he has that dimension at all.

Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2015 03:29 PM (qyomX)

48 I completely agree Obama is not a secret Muslim. That being said, I always look to see what side the Muslim Brotherhood is on so I'm not surprised when Br'er Obama comes thru for them.

Posted by: t-bird at January 31, 2015 03:29 PM (FcR7P)

49 A Christian wouldn't answer a question like that, but a muslim would. Jesus exists in islam as well, they just reject his divinity...as does Obama.

Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2015 03:29 PM (MYCIw)

50 Didn't he mention the beautiful sound was the call to prayer?

Posted by: YIKES! at January 31, 2015 03:29 PM (gHXlI)

51 He grew up in a muslim household He really didn't though. He grew up with his red-diaper-baby, frustrated-academic, single mom. Which mom despised her husband Soetero - the Muslim - for being a capitalist. Which mom then shipped Barry back to America to be raised by her parents, who were commies, and by Frank Marshall Davis, who needs to be googled.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 03:29 PM (AVEe1)

52 He IS holding Islam higher than other faiths. He was voting "present" again with that speech. It came on the heels of the arrest of the hateful video guy, an arrest that was orchestrated by Obama and his string-pullers. He was speechifying with pretty words. Look at his deeds. Everything he does supports the radical, murderous Mohammedans. Nothing he does benefits those of non-Mohammedan faiths.

Posted by: fly gal at January 31, 2015 03:30 PM (pq76f)

53 Fredo hates all that America has ever stood for

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2015 03:30 PM (nzKvP)

54 Many atheists believe Jesus was a historical figure who also happened to be a great teacher. For the love of pete

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at January 31, 2015 03:31 PM (dFi94)

55 I think he say's "my Muslim faith" the same way he says "my Christian faith" or "our common heritage" or "our great Nation" All bullshit.

Posted by: eman at January 31, 2015 03:31 PM (MQEz6)

56 If Clinton were a Republican, he would never have been elected.  Remember, it was the Media that made Ross Perot into a national candidate precisely because he would split the Republican vote.  He was given a space on the debate floor in 92 and 96.  Note that in the next election--2000--the most viable third-party candidate, Ralph Nader, wasn't even allowed into the debate hall, precisely because he might split the Democrat vote.

Bill Clinton has been the benefit of Media love his entire career.  Remove "Democrat" from him, and he's a nobody.

Posted by: Null at January 31, 2015 03:31 PM (xjpRj)

57 It's no secret. I like paste.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 31, 2015 03:31 PM (gHXlI)

58 Thanks for the context, Muse. Like others, I had never seen that much of the speech. But I stand by my assertion that muslims are towel headed goat fcuking death cultists. No, all religions should not be treated with equal respect. Some are clearly deserving of respect, and have mine. This particular evil worship needs to be wiped off the planet. Period.

Posted by: shredded chi at January 31, 2015 03:32 PM (QHUHl)

59 Stupid and evil is still evil.

Posted by: LA Dodgers Fan at January 31, 2015 03:33 PM (vUDnY)

60 Wow,58 made sense

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2015 03:33 PM (u/Asb)

61 MUMR is not a dickhead.

Posted by: Vox at January 31, 2015 03:33 PM (lG2E3)

62 He really didn't though. He grew up with his red-diaper-baby, frustrated-academic, single mom. Which mom despised her husband Soetero - the Muslim - for being a capitalist. Which mom then shipped Barry back to America to be raised by her parents, who were commies, and by Frank Marshall Davis, who needs to be googled. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 08:29 PM (AVEe1) I was asked to pick out a picture of our esteemed president and was surprised when the photo turned out to be Frank Marshall Davis. And by surprised, I mean of course he looks like Barry because he's his father.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 31, 2015 03:33 PM (oFCZn)

63 So it's a slow night.  Obama is still a dickhead. 

That's all I have.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 31, 2015 03:33 PM (0FSuD)

64 Totally agree with this post. Obama is a true narcissist. I don't believe he is capable of worshiping anything or anyone but himself.

Posted by: PBJ5959 at January 31, 2015 03:33 PM (r1du+)

65 Jesus is an historical figure for me, and he's also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher.
And he's also a wonderful teacher. I think it's important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history.


Heh. This reminds me so much of his dumb speech. It's all weak-tea, bland platitudes.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 31, 2015 03:33 PM (SNhR+)

66 56 I think he say's "my Muslim faith" the same way he says "my Christian faith" or "our common heritage" or "our great Nation" All bullshit. This. His allegiance is to his own narcissistic self. Nothing more. Narcissists construct a fake personality, and he constructed his out of Marxism and academia. But the idea of having principles that transcend his ego is truly foreign to him. It's just that this Marxist-derived construct is literally all that he has to work with.

Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2015 03:33 PM (qyomX)

67 He also went to school in a madrassa. "The prettiest sound is the Muslim call to prayer." The Muslim call to prayer sounds like someone having their head violently removed from their neck.

Posted by: fly gal at January 31, 2015 03:33 PM (pq76f)

68 Of course, the God Damn America "church" he attended ain't much better than Islam.

Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2015 03:33 PM (MYCIw)

69 He's back

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2015 03:34 PM (u/Asb)

70 A Christian wouldn't answer a question like that, but a muslim would. I don't think a Muslim would, though. A Muslim would put the "prophet of God" thing right up front. Or at least would not hem and haw about (neutral) historical figures. A nonbeliever in Jesus who wanted to avoid any controversy, though, would immediately grasp to the "historical!" thought. I might have done the same in his position, at certain points in my life. I'd probably blather a lot more about 1 Peter and "dissimilarity principles" and zzzz, but mainly just because I'd been reading this stuff.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 03:34 PM (AVEe1)

71 @37 Well, he certainly doesn't PITCH!!

Posted by: Reggie Love at January 31, 2015 03:34 PM (E7Iyp)

72 RINO!!! ;-)

Posted by: Y-not on the phone from her sick bed at January 31, 2015 03:34 PM (9BRsg)

73 Speaking of the Religion of Peace, husband and I just returned from seeing "American Sniper."

As others have said, the theater was totally quiet throughout the film and during the credits.  I was wiping tears, and noticed my husband wiping his eyes.

Our town is home to the Night Stalkers at Hunter Army Airfield and nearby, the Army's 3rd ID.

There were more than a few active duty-looking men attending, as well as older vets.

My husband said he won't be able to forget the film for a long time.  And he's not a vet.

Our vet son saw it last week and said it affected him, but it also made him wish he could re-enlist and fight the damned war in A-stan the way it should be fought.

Anyhow, my two cents.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2015 03:35 PM (FsuaD)

74 The bot that transforms the posts of The Troll Who Must Not Be named has turned strangely philosophical. Y-Not, you're sick? Please get better quickly!

Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2015 03:36 PM (qyomX)

75 The most beautiful sound? A full blast from Uncle Joe's posterior orifice.

Posted by: Barry, Barry Quite Contrary at January 31, 2015 03:36 PM (Dwehj)

76 The Muslim call to prayer sounds like someone having their head violently removed from their neck. Posted by: fly gal at January 31, 2015 08:33 PM I always thought it sounded like the opening credits from The Lion King.

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 31, 2015 03:36 PM (4gN5w)

77 So if he's not a secret Muslim how about the fag hag equivalent?

Posted by: YIKES! at January 31, 2015 03:36 PM (gHXlI)

78 At dinner tonight, after her third glass of wine, my step mother in law started in about how "unfair" it is that Americans have so much and Haitians have so little. Or something. I asked her if she thought they'd be better off if Haiti had the same semi-capitalist economy and the same Constitution we have, and she told me it was too unfair for simple solutions. Unfair. Simple. Idiot.

Posted by: MTF at January 31, 2015 03:37 PM (6RbuA)

79 Look at his deeds. Everything he does supports the radical, murderous Mohammedans. Nothing he does benefits those of non-Mohammedan faiths.

That's because Islam, as it exists as a political entity today, is anti-West. Obama is also anti-West, so there's some congruence there.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 31, 2015 03:38 PM (SNhR+)

80 The schooling of his youth was Islamic. His first male role models were Islamic. It probably doesn't matter if he still practices or not, between the Islamic formative years and the anti-American education, what we have is and has been apparent in his actions. And it ain't good. /what dictator was it that said give me a child until he is seven and he'll be mine for life?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 31, 2015 03:38 PM (XmOA9)

81 Muslims are weird about Jesus. The more taqquia ones love to point out that Jesus is in the Koran and is just a super swell guy (who wasn't Son of God). They consider him a lower p prophet, so Obama's formulation is pretty spot on there.

Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2015 03:38 PM (MYCIw)

82 my step mother in law -'s former roommate?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 03:38 PM (AVEe1)

83 79 At dinner tonight, after her third glass of wine, my step mother in law started in about how "unfair" it is that Americans have so much and Haitians have so little. Or something. I asked her if she thought they'd be better off if Haiti had the same semi-capitalist economy and the same Constitution we have, and she told me it was too unfair for simple solutions. Unfair. Simple.

Idiot.

Posted by: MTF at January 31, 2015 08:37 PM (6RbuA)



I really should introduce your step mother-in-law to my idiot Prog in-laws.  One of the s-i-ls is in Cuba now, absorbing its beauty and culture. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2015 03:39 PM (FsuaD)

84 He is, at very least, a sympathizer with muslims. Did he not attend a muslim school and have his faith listed as muslim? I honestly don't know, I saw the document, but it could have been fake.


I look at his actions toward other Muslims and the muslim world in general.


Is he a sympathizer with muslims because of his shared goals as a TP? Possibly, but he's got far too much of a cultural background associated with muslims (not to mention his overly sympathetic comments) for the charge to be so lightly dismissed.


Ultimately, I don't give a damn because he's ultimately a royal fuckup regardless of his religious beliefs.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 31, 2015 03:39 PM (xSCb6)

85 mumr never leaves when it says it's going to

Posted by: Barry, Barry Quite Contrary at January 31, 2015 03:39 PM (Dwehj)

86 "The future does not beong to those who slander the prophet of Islam (peas be upon him)."

Posted by: bergerbilder at January 31, 2015 03:39 PM (2o6Wj)

87 12 I want to see Obama recite the Lord's Prayer by memory. He says he is a Christian. I sincerely doubt it.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 31, 2015 08:16 PM (rXJ1Y)


THIS! or the Nicene Cree


I BELIEVE in one God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, And of all things visible and invisible:
    And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God; Begotten of his Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, Very God of very God; Begotten, not made; Being of one substance with the Father; By whom all things were made: Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven, And was incarnate by the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary, And was made man: And was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried: And the third day he rose again according to the Scriptures: And ascended into heaven, And sitteth on the right hand of the Father: And he shall come again, with glory, to judge both the quick and the dead; Whose kingdom shall have no end.
    And I believe in the Holy Ghost, The Lord, and Giver of Life, Who proceedeth from the Father and the Son; Who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; Who spake by the Prophets: And I believe one Catholic and Apostolic Church: I acknowledge one Baptism for the remission of sins: And I look for the Resurrection of the dead: And the Life of the world to come. Amen.




Posted by: Nip Sip at January 31, 2015 03:40 PM (0FSuD)

88 God bless, MUMR. 

Whatever.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2015 03:40 PM (FsuaD)

89 MUMR always leaves when it says it will.

Posted by: Vox at January 31, 2015 03:40 PM (lG2E3)

90 Not all atheists are progressive, but all progressives are atheist.

Posted by: bkeyser at January 31, 2015 03:40 PM (OsxDX)

91 WTF is everybody in bed already? Posted by: Cicero ------------------ * waking up from nap * Funny you should ask that...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 31, 2015 03:41 PM (F2IAQ)

92 Don't let the door...you know the rest.  Buh bye.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2015 03:41 PM (FsuaD)

93 I'm looking forward to "blessing" him when he gets here... with extra turgid barbs

Posted by: mumr's god at January 31, 2015 03:41 PM (AVEe1)

94 Posted by: Nip Sip at January 31, 2015 08:40 PM (0FSuD) I wouldn't be able to recite that.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at January 31, 2015 03:42 PM (dFi94)

95 Idiot. Posted by: MTF at January 31, 2015 08:37 PM (6RbuA) Should've told her don't let the door hit in you the ass on your way there

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2015 03:42 PM (u/Asb)

96 Oops! I ckufed up and capitalized a "muslim" in there. Sorry about that.

One too many "ultimately"s too, but I guess that means it's final.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 31, 2015 03:42 PM (xSCb6)

97 Suggestion: As we approach "700 days left in the Obama regime", a post at each 100 day milestone. We are slowly, very slowly, approaching something wonderful.

Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2015 03:42 PM (qyomX)

98 So from an Islamic theological perspective, things are actually pretty cut and dried. If someone recites the _shahadah_, the Islamic profession of faith, then they're a Muslim from that point onward. It's the proverbial defining moment. If that person thereafter ceases to practice Islam faithfully, or adopts a different faith, that's apostasy. There's a clearly set forth penalty in the Quran for apostates. It's the death penalty. Obama has recited the shahadah repeatedly. He also claims to be a Christian. This is the sort of thing that gets ordinary peasant folk stoned to death by howling mobs every damn day in countries of the Islamic crescent. If Islamic leaders such as the Saud family really believed that Obama was a former Muslim who genuinely had become a Christian, they would pointedly refuse to meet or work with him. It would fatally undermine their claims to legitimacy in the eyes of the faithful of the ummah. Draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 31, 2015 03:42 PM (noWW6)

99 TPIsm? Sounds like an old Jack Parr joke. Which is itself an old Mad Magazine joke.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American, Commrade 69 at January 31, 2015 03:42 PM (XlFLJ)

100 I never could quite see Obama seeing a secret Muslim. هو لا إله إلا الدولة. أوباما نبيه.

Posted by: أوباما at January 31, 2015 03:42 PM (0Ew3K)

101 Speaking of slandering prophets, the second Japanese journalist has been beheaded. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2015 03:43 PM (Dj0WE)

102 that spam turbine of his must really build up some momentum

Posted by: Barry, Barry Quite Contrary at January 31, 2015 03:43 PM (Dwehj)

103 Obama is evolving on Islam.

Posted by: Hepcat at January 31, 2015 03:43 PM (IeR2g)

104 Wow Nip the Nicene Creed. We have it tomorrow with communion liturgy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2015 03:44 PM (u/Asb)

105 "Suggestion: As we approach '700 days left in the Obama regime', a post at each 100 day milestone. We are slowly, very slowly, approaching something wonderful." Wonderful? Merely wonderful? I'm _fahbulous_, dahlink!

Posted by: Her Excellency Hillary Rodham Clinton at January 31, 2015 03:44 PM (noWW6)

106 Well, according to muslim law and custom, Bammy is a muzz because his father was. Full stop. And his stepfather was a muslim and sent him to muzzie school in Indonesia. He's probably not a practicing muslim, and might even be an apostate, but clearly the muzzie world thinks he's sufficiently useful to them as-is, that they don't attempt to exact the penalty for apostasy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 31, 2015 03:44 PM (upitO)

107
* waking up from nap *

Funny you should ask that...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 31, 2015 08:41 PM (F2IAQ)


Well. OK A good nap. Now I am up

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 31, 2015 03:44 PM (0FSuD)

108 I wouldn't be able to recite that.

The nuns made us memorize the Nicene Creed when I was in 2nd grade. The Apostles' Creed was taught to us in the 1st. I can still recite the latter, but not the former, at least not very well.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 31, 2015 03:44 PM (SNhR+)

109 Draw your own conclusions. They got themselves a dhimmi.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 03:44 PM (AVEe1)

110 ... or what Alberta Oil Peon said

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 03:45 PM (AVEe1)

111 MUMR is an interesting case. He was around for quite a while as a fairly benign poster, positive even. Then, there would be the occasional slightly odd post. I'm not sure when he went off the rail.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 31, 2015 03:45 PM (F2IAQ)

112 He's not a muslim cause I say he's a muslim. He's a muslim because his koran says he's a muslim. Not my fault. He favors arab muslims above all others, and he despises America just as much as any muslim does. A real muslim can't swear any type of allegiance to America because his koran does not allow such. Thus, ubama has no affection or allegiance to America.

Posted by: Eromero at January 31, 2015 03:45 PM (go5uR)

113 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2015 08:44 PM (u/Asb) You getting any snow tonight/ tomorrow? We're supposed to get about 12 inches. No church for me.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at January 31, 2015 03:45 PM (dFi94)

114 Yeah, whatever. Next you'll be telling us he doesn't regularly snack on man meat, or his hirsute & muscular wife doesn't have a 19" floppy dong duct taped between her cheeks.

Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 31, 2015 03:46 PM (MbqmP)

115 I'm not sure when he went off the rail. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 31, 2015 08:45 PM (F2IAQ) Somewhere between the second and third electroshock treatment. You misplace one electrode...

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 31, 2015 03:46 PM (oFCZn)

116 104 Wow Nip the Nicene Creed.
We have it tomorrow with communion liturgy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2015 08:44 PM (u/Asb)


1928 prayer book, will accept no less.


Praise be to God.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 31, 2015 03:46 PM (0FSuD)

117 MUMR is an interesting case.

Yes.

Posted by: Nurse Ratched at January 31, 2015 03:46 PM (Dwehj)

118 105 I'm _fahbulous_, dahlink! Posted by: Her Excellency Hillary Rodham Clinton at January 31, 2015 08:44 PM (noWW6) Who bitch is this?

Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2015 03:46 PM (qyomX)

119 It's just too bad that the people who really felt good about themselves for voting for a black president in 2008 couldn't have settled for one of those Sears mannequins from the late 70's, when the Roebuckers were trying to broaden the appeal of their cheesy clothes.

Dress him up in one of those natty bespoke suits, and just put him behind the TelePromptErErEr.  We'd have saved millions in jet fuel alone.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at January 31, 2015 03:46 PM (DLu2s)

120 108 I wouldn't be able to recite that. The nuns made us memorize the Nicene Creed when I was in 2nd grade. The Apostles' Creed was taught to us in the 1st. I can still recite the latter, but not the former, at least not very well. Posted by: OregonMuse at January 31, 2015 08 How about the Athastasian Creed?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2015 03:47 PM (u/Asb)

121 You're wrong: he is a muzztard.

Posted by: CMU VET at January 31, 2015 03:48 PM (ejB0r)

122 Dear Oregon Muse,

You wrote, "Given the context of the speech, I believe the assertion that the statement in question constitutes some sort of endorsement or acknowledgement of Islamic exceptionalism is incorrect."

Okay, maybe he isn't a secret Muslim.  But why should we come to that conclusion based on this words.

Using your logic, we can keep our old insurance plan and our doctor and an average family of 4 can save $2,500 a year.

Posted by: Hepcat at January 31, 2015 03:48 PM (IeR2g)

123 How about the Athastasian Creed? You mean this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed We can graduate to this, if you don't care about the Copts, Syrians and Nestorians: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalcedonian_Definition

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 03:49 PM (AVEe1)

124 His father was a Muslim, he was raised in a madrassa. He is a Muslim. Just ask a Muslim. Islam is like the Mafia, once in, you are never out.

Posted by: navybrat at January 31, 2015 03:49 PM (JgC5a)

125 (ahem)

Posted by: Apollo Creed at January 31, 2015 03:49 PM (F2IAQ)

126 Of course, the God Damn America "church" he attended ain't much better than Islam.

Posted by: Lauren at January 31, 2015 08:33 PM (MYCIw)[/]



In many ways it is worse. It is an offshoot of Liberation Theology that is used by the Left to hollow out and corrupt Christianity.

Posted by: cm9000 at January 31, 2015 03:50 PM (8zCR+)

127 Grammie, 2" forecasted here, what are you in the lake snow effect?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2015 03:50 PM (u/Asb)

128 Well, I don't know who Obama prays to, but I know who he thinks the Devil is, white people.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at January 31, 2015 03:50 PM (+Fae7)

129 So that prayer rug in front of the Resolute desk is just for decor purposes.

I'm all good with Barky being a Muzztard, as long as he insists on Mooch wearing a burka and following sharia law.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2015 03:50 PM (FsuaD)

130 MUMR is an interesting case. He was around for quite a while as a fairly benign poster, positive even. Then, there would be the occasional slightly odd post. I'm not sure when he went off the rail. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 31, 2015 08:45 PM (F2IAQ) MUMR is, or was "raykon". A true wacko who used to post here claiming to have been stationed at some super secret Air Force base in Alaska. Must have changed medications again.

Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 31, 2015 03:50 PM (MbqmP)

131 * denounces 125 *

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 31, 2015 03:51 PM (F2IAQ)

132 "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam."

So, in context, Obama was lying about events to make this obsequious statement in a speech before the UN where if he told the truth he would have never need say it at all.

That seems little different than statements made by certain non-governmental faith based organizations that justify their man-made disasters due to alleged abuse of their sensibilities.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 31, 2015 03:51 PM (NaeCR)

133 127 Grammie, 2" forecasted here, what are you in the lake snow effect? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 31, 2015 08:50 PM (u/Asb) I think so. Either that or the Hell on Earth effect.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at January 31, 2015 03:51 PM (dFi94)

134 What action by Obama is inconsistent with him being a Muslim? He certainly hasn't professed Jesus as his savior and given his personal testament. My understanding is that Muslims are encouraged to deceive the Infidel if it furthers the cause (ends justifies the means) including denying that they are Muslims. Same as Communist, Socialist, and Corrupt politicians and bureaucrats.

Posted by: Huggy at January 31, 2015 03:51 PM (PGh+Q)

135 I wouldn't be able to recite that.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at January 31, 2015 08:42 PM (dFi94)


Well, I can after 60  years you remember stuff.  I can quote the entire Communion service, first book.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 31, 2015 03:51 PM (0FSuD)

136 THIS! or the Nicene Creed Posted by: Nip Sip at January 31, 2015 08:40 PM (0FSuD) Bulls**t!

Posted by: The Arians at January 31, 2015 03:52 PM (0Ew3K)

137 I never bought the secret Muslim  biz.  Yes, he's a narcissist, and therefore would have a hard time believing in a higher power, but he did find one anyway.  Valjar, because they believe the same leftist crep,  and she is demonstrably smarter than he. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2015 03:53 PM (Dj0WE)

138 If I never hear another song by Nicene Creed, it will be too soon.

Posted by: Nurse Ratched at January 31, 2015 03:53 PM (Dwehj)

139 Well, I don't know who Obama prays to, but I know who he thinks the Devil is, white people. Not exactly. Here's Audacity of Hope: In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. This last bit, which I bolded, can be translated: "I will stand with the [Muslims] should [Iblis al-Shaytan] shift [the whites] in an ugly direction." So it's not that whites are satanic. It's that whites are uniquely susceptible to satanic influence. Whites need to be guided, with a firm hand; and it's men like Obama who must guide them. Preferably non-whites, with as much political force as possible.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 03:55 PM (AVEe1)

140 In many ways it is worse. It is an offshoot of Liberation Theology that is used by the Left to hollow out and corrupt Christianity. Posted by: cm9000 at January 31, 2015 08:50 PM (8zCR+) Word.

Posted by: Pope Francis at January 31, 2015 03:55 PM (0Ew3K)

141 I wouldn't be able to recite that. Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at January 31, 2015 08:42 PM (dFi94) I could, in the vernacular.

Posted by: bergerbilder at January 31, 2015 03:56 PM (2o6Wj)

142 You could read that like this too: "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." This is a complete sentence and the idea of it modified by this: "But to be credible", those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated, or churches that are destroyed, or the Holocaust that is denied. It doesn't change the meaning of the first sentence but addresses the hate Islam has toward other religions and how they shouldn't show it. That is one point of view.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at January 31, 2015 03:56 PM (WNERA)

143 2 He is as profound as a greeting card.
and He is as deep as a bumper sticker.

Posted by: puddleglum@work at January 31, 2015 03:57 PM (20X6f)

144 The JEF is entirely sympatico to Islam. 

His constant embrace of the Muslim Brotherhood in the Oval Office should surprise no one.  Just this week, even.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2015 03:57 PM (FsuaD)

145 "I was asked to pick out a picture of our esteemed president and was surprised when the photo turned out to be Frank Marshall Davis. And by surprised, I mean of course he looks like Barry because he's his father." Genes. Genomic analysis is getting good enough that it can produce reasonably plausible geographic matches for people's origins. There has been a fad in the African-American community to do this and figure out where their distant progenitors most likely lived. Oprah Winfrey, Chris Rock and others have made a big production number out of this. Michelle Obama, nee Robinson, has submitted a DNA sample, and released the results, and her analysis matches up closely with the claimed lineage on both sides of her family. The African genes she carries are those most commonly found in West Africa. From her slave ancestors. Yet for some reason, her husband hasn't undergone any such analysis himself. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Quite the three-pipe problem, Watson. Consider that Frank Marshall Davis was, like Michelle Obama, a descendant of former slaves who had been captured in West Africa and endured the Middle Passage to the Americas. Consider also that Barack Obama Sr., the President's ostensible father from Kenya, had primarily East African genetics. The biological son of either one of these two men would carry a regionally distinctive DNA signature. Perhaps an unwelcome and surprising one, were it to be that of the former.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 31, 2015 03:57 PM (noWW6)

146 Well, I don't know who Obama prays to, but I know who he thinks the Devil is, white people.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at January 31, 2015 08:50 PM (+Fae7)



Obama doesn't have any problem with the white power structure who have made his rise to power possible. But I do think he has utter contempt for the stupid true-believers that make up his base, be they black or white    

Posted by: cm9000 at January 31, 2015 03:58 PM (8zCR+)

147 Bulls**t!

Posted by: The Arians at January 31, 2015 08:52 PM (0Ew3K)


Got it, so he is NOT a Christian.  Da Huh.

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 31, 2015 03:59 PM (0FSuD)

148 Hey, I know the Lord's prayer, assholes. Me who art in DC Hallowed be my name. My kingdom come My will be done In flyover as it is in DC Give me this day all of your money And lead me not to anger. Because you really disappoint me. For mine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory Forever. Amen. Me Bless me.

Posted by: Obama at January 31, 2015 04:00 PM (MYCIw)

149 There is no political value, at this point, in the continuation of the psychoanalysis of obama. It would be prudent to move on to hillary clinton.

Posted by: Reflective Alternate-Reality Soothsayer at January 31, 2015 04:01 PM (mFNJH)

150 Obama hates people of European ancestry.  Period. 

And he therefore hates the United States of America.  He's been getting his revenge for whatever slights he believes his drunken daddy and family suffered under white colonialists for the past six years.  The next two should be a doozy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2015 04:01 PM (FsuaD)

151 The biological son of either one of these two men would carry a regionally distinctive DNA signature. Yeah. A *very* distinctive DNA signature. We are all aware here, yes, that humans came out of Africa? Which would imply that genetic differences within Africa are an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE higher than differences between Danes, Asians, and Maya. Whites literally have more in common with Ethiopians and Somalis, than Ethiopians and Somalis have with Bantu. So yeah. Obama's Y chromosome *will* tell the tale.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 04:01 PM (AVEe1)

152 The first retarded president.Historic.

Posted by: steevy at January 31, 2015 04:02 PM (v5UtH)

153 Obama actually looks most like his maternal grandfather, Stanley Ann's father. He doesn't look like Barack Obama Sr. or Frank Davis.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... after 5 pm at January 31, 2015 04:02 PM (+1T7c)

154 So yeah. Obama's Y chromosome *will* tell the tale.



Just like those college transcripts we'll never see.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2015 04:02 PM (FsuaD)

155 How about the Athastasian Creed?

You mean the Athanasian Creed?

Gah, nobody recites that. Except some monks somewhere, maybe.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 31, 2015 04:02 PM (SNhR+)

156 So he's plain old Barry Davis then. Sounds way more un-interesting.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at January 31, 2015 04:03 PM (dFi94)

157 His Muslim faith, his Christian faith, it's all faithless. http://youtu.be/hJnqYiUwOfo Cover - video webwork (5min) on Obama's using Wright's church for his "community organizing" ends.

Posted by: mindful webworker - has a thought, almost at January 31, 2015 04:04 PM (ACs58)

158 Whites literally have more in common with Ethiopians and Somalis, than Ethiopians and Somalis have with Bantu. So yeah. Obama's Y chromosome *will* tell the tale. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 09:01 PM (AVEe1) If he is a bastard he is following almost the same dreams of his bio father anyway, right?

Posted by: Bob from table9 at January 31, 2015 04:04 PM (WNERA)

159 What is with the social security number issued from Connecticut, a state in which he never resided?

Posted by: navybrat at January 31, 2015 04:04 PM (JgC5a)

160 @3 No, I sure as hell can't, Mikey.

Posted by: Randy Westerfeld at January 31, 2015 04:04 PM (rJRsj)

161 Whites literally have more in common with Ethiopians and Somalis, than Ethiopians and Somalis have with Bantu. So yeah. Obama's Y chromosome *will* tell the tale. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 09:01 PM (AVEe1) Obama has a Y-chromosome???

Posted by: The Genetic Hat at January 31, 2015 04:05 PM (0Ew3K)

162 Good thing Obama the Christian isn't living in Egypt.

According to a Pew poll, 84% of Muslims (80 million people) want the death penalty for those who leave Islam. http://tinyurl.com/6efhkjx

Posted by: Hepcat at January 31, 2015 04:06 PM (IeR2g)

163 What he's always meant to say is that The future must not belong to those who... are white Americans.

Posted by: NSFW at January 31, 2015 04:06 PM (H5hDP)

164 the religion of Obama is Obama. The politics of Obama is Obama. He is a sociopath. End of story. Next?

Posted by: OG CELTIC-AMERICAN at January 31, 2015 04:07 PM (XlFLJ)

165 I just wish Barry would go full-on sharia law in the White House.  If I never had to see Mooch's angry visage outside a burkha I'd be happy.  Same with Val Jar.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2015 04:07 PM (FsuaD)

166 OK, I'll give everyone a break.  Accepting Christ as your savior does not mean you are required  to know the lord's prayer or the Nicene creed.


It just means you just accept him.


That's all I have.  Praise be to God.  Not fcuking Allah

Posted by: Nip Sip at January 31, 2015 04:07 PM (0FSuD)

167 I just want someone to publicly suggest to Obama that he should go on the Maury show to see if the man he believed was his father was really his father.


When your mother is working out her father issues by riding as many black cocks she can, that's how those SHOCKING Maury moments are created.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at January 31, 2015 04:08 PM (AC0lD)

168 Read Daniel Pipes essay on this... http://tinyurl.com/cx5mf4j Don't forget Obama slipped up and said "My Muslim faith..." in an interview. One only need look at his support of the muslim brotherhood in Egypt and his State Dept's recent meeting with them, before they declared they were going to go all out against el-Sisi (who Obama has still not recognized for his tough stand against Islamofascism) and I will keep believing that he is, at his heart of black hearts, a Mohammedan.

Posted by: Brendan at January 31, 2015 04:08 PM (8YVZT)

169 I take comfort in that what Jimmy Carter did to the image of the Dems is nothing compared to what this asswipe is going to do. And I say "going to" because despite how we think he couldn't get any worse, he hasn't even gotten warmed up yet. A few, a very few, of the Dems are just beginning to hear the roar of the falls. Enjoy, boys. As John Candy would have said, "He's all yur'n."

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 31, 2015 04:09 PM (LIyA2)

170 130 MUMR is an interesting case. He was around for quite a while as a fairly benign poster, positive even. Then, there would be the occasional slightly odd post.

I'm not sure when he went off the rail.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at January 31, 2015 08:45 PM (F2IAQ)


MUMR is, or was "raykon". A true wacko who used to post here claiming to have been stationed at some super secret Air Force base in Alaska. Must have changed medications again.

Posted by: Anderson Cooper's Smoked Sausages at January 31, 2015 08:50 PM (MbqmP)

 

I've never seen any evidence of this.  Their posting styles are very different. 

 

MUMR loved sticking up for Rapin' Akin.  Then he one day said something stupid involving WW2 that ace saw and thoroughly  handed him his ass.  It was a bit after that where he started going rainman retard in his posting.  Nonsensical gibberish, borderline bigotry, obsession with Anna Puma, and bitching and moaning about weekend threads.  He got a nuking at some point but ace thought it was an accidental attempt to just delete comment.  Then after eventually getting a new hash he was back and got the final nuking for some stupidly insulting thing towards atheists of all people.  And with his constant hash changing and spamming he's demonstrated what he always has been.  A troll.

Posted by: buzzion at January 31, 2015 04:09 PM (zt+N6)

171 Cover - video webwork (5min) on Obama's using Wright's church for his "community organizing" ends. Posted by: mindful webworker This. Barack believes in no deity, or metaphysical nature to life. He is a grasping materialistic Leftist, and only trots out the Islamic noise to signal his "ecumenical" Leftist loathing of all religions. The Left believes they can control the naked spiritual energy of Islam to immantize the eschaton, ie, bring about a worldwide socialist dictatorship. Give Islam enough power, and they will eagerly kill millions of apostates. And that's how dumb Obama and the Left are.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative.... after 5 pm at January 31, 2015 04:09 PM (+1T7c)

172 "A world-class dumbass." and if not an overt supporter of mooslimes certainly one that harbors a significant preference for them.

See previous statements as well as support of all the wrong savages.

Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at January 31, 2015 04:10 PM (baiNQ)

173 OT: Good news: Walker Surging in Iowa Poll as Bush Struggles http://tinyurl.com/mg5uwb2

Posted by: The Polling Hat at January 31, 2015 04:12 PM (0Ew3K)

174 I wonder how Barry wrestles with Islam's loathing of homosexuals (unless they're raping dancing boys in Afghanistan). 

Because the stories out there about the JEF's penchant for men are plenty.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2015 04:12 PM (FsuaD)

175 Off to bed.  "American Sniper" still too fresh on my mind.

The drill scene....

praying I won't have nightmares.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2015 04:13 PM (FsuaD)

176 The future must not belong to those who like yogurt.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at January 31, 2015 04:13 PM (W5DcG)

177 174 I wonder how Barry wrestles with Islam's loathing of homosexuals (unless they're raping dancing boys in Afghanistan).

Because the stories out there about the JEF's penchant for men are plenty.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2015 09:12 PM (FsuaD)

 

They just pretend that its not an issue.  Its not as if this would be the only thing they'd be hypocritical assholes on.

Posted by: buzzion at January 31, 2015 04:14 PM (zt+N6)

178 Read Daniel Pipes essay on this...
http://tinyurl.com/cx5mf4j
Don't forget Obama slipped up and said "My Muslim faith..." in an interview. One only need look at his support of the muslim brotherhood in Egypt and his State Dept's recent meeting with them, before they declared they were going to go all out against el-Sisi (who Obama has still not recognized for his tough stand against Islamofascism) and I will keep believing that he is, at his heart of black hearts, a Mohammedan.

Posted by: Brendan at January 31, 2015 09:08 PM (8YVZT)



I think this is a misreading of Obama's reflexive anti-Western, anti-American worldview as being proof of his being a Muslim.  

Posted by: cm9000 at January 31, 2015 04:15 PM (8zCR+)

179 I wonder how Barry wrestles with Islam's loathing of homosexuals (unless they're raping dancing boys in Afghanistan). Because the stories out there about the JEF's penchant for men are plenty. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2015 09:12 PM (FsuaD) According to Leftist ideology, homophobia is a sole product of Western White Christian males. Everything else is a White-washed lie. Thus darker-skinned Arabian male Muslims don't hate gays, and if it seems it does, it is all Western White Christian males fault! They really believe that if all Western White Christian males were eliminated, Mecca would spontaneously turn into the Folsom Street Fair.

Posted by: The Grand Kyriarch at January 31, 2015 04:16 PM (0Ew3K)

180 Since Barry isn't a Muslim, he reconciles it all pretty well. The American Constitution will be destroyed, American whites will become a subjugated plurality like the Copts in Fatimid Egypt, the proper elite will be in charge and the rest of it can work itself out.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 04:16 PM (AVEe1)

181 test ...

Posted by: rich@gmu at January 31, 2015 04:17 PM (OjnNr)

182 Someone brought up the beheading of the Japanese journalist by ISIS. Just as an aside, if I were the Japanese Prime Minister, it would have said the following: Dear ISIS, When it comes to the art of beheading, the Japanese invented it. You miserable sand-pikers. Our shoguns wrote the book. Some of their descendents will soon be visiting you with their Hatari Hanzus to avenge the cowardly murder of our citizens. Soon. Very soon. Sincerely, The Rising Shogun

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 31, 2015 04:17 PM (KQTmr)

183 Thanks for the clarification. I don't think he has any religion at all, but himself.

Posted by: lynn at January 31, 2015 04:17 PM (AjrEe)

184 And not a word of this in the MFmedia

Posted by: Cicero Skip at January 31, 2015 04:17 PM (FIrEF)

185 the original essay http://tinyurl.com/mvo45o8 can't cut-and-paste from it.

Posted by: rich@gmu at January 31, 2015 04:18 PM (OjnNr)

186 Yeah, this is something I've been saying for a long time now. He's not a Muslim, he's not a Christian. He owns no greater god than Barack Hussein Obama. He worships no other. This is just more "why can't we all just get along" multi-culti nonsense that he's always offered, from when Russia invaded Georgia to today. Its all he knows, its all he has to offer. Conservatives look for deeper meaning and conviction where he has none to offer.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 31, 2015 04:18 PM (39g3+)

187 and of course it was linked in the USS Clueless link ... anyway. evening all. been away from the blog for a while and thought I'd drop in tonight.

Posted by: rich@gmu at January 31, 2015 04:19 PM (OjnNr)

188 Yeah, Daniel Pipes wrote a good dissertation on the wala' and slavery in Islam, but then so did Patricia Crone. Pipes went into political blathering and Crone didn't. Guess whose work gets cited more? I mean, by people who aren't hacks? Hint: not Pipes.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 04:20 PM (AVEe1)

189 The guy's a mooselimb through and through.

Posted by: james at January 31, 2015 04:20 PM (qJ6zV)

190 what dictator was it that said give me a child until he is seven and he'll be mine for life? -- Jesuits.

Posted by: @votermom [/i][/s] at January 31, 2015 04:21 PM (cbfNE)

191 Oregon Muse,

"The most beatiful sound in the world is Abdul blowing Geoff the goat for evening prayer..."

//Bronko Bama

Yeah not a secret muslim at all OM...

not *at* all...

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077[/i][/b][/s] at January 31, 2015 04:21 PM (/4AZU)

192 I do believe, however, that President Obama has a basically Muslim-influenced worldview from his early upbringing. Its heavily tainted by his Communist, er, tutors, but Islam was his first worldview and religious influence. He's sympathetic toward it as a religion, as far as he is toward any faith other than Obamaism.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 31, 2015 04:21 PM (39g3+)

193 Yeah, Daniel Pipes wrote a good dissertation on the wala' and slavery in Islam, but then so did Patricia Crone. Pipes went into political blathering and Crone didn't. Guess whose work gets cited more? I mean, by people who aren't hacks? Hint: not Pipes. Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 09:20 PM (AVEe1) The Politically Incorrect History of the African Slave Trade http://tinyurl.com/q6gpps8

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 31, 2015 04:22 PM (0Ew3K)

194 187 Posted by: rich@gmu at January 31, 2015 09:19 PM (OjnNr)

Welcome home...

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077[/i][/b][/s] at January 31, 2015 04:22 PM (/4AZU)

195 The guy's a mooselimb through and through. Posted by: james (qJ6zV) Can't find your hash qJ6zV here. You're either a lurker who has completely ignored this thread or else you're trolling. Not that these are exclusive.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 04:22 PM (AVEe1)

196 Obama also accidentally referred to himself as Muslim in an interview in 2008. I think you can still find it on YouTube. He traveled to Pakistan as a youth--for no apparent reason. He thinks the muzzin is the most beautiful sound on earth. He was raised in a Muslim nation as a Muslim. He was listed as a Muslim student. He has a Muslim name. He wrote in his books that he would stand with Muslims. He hates Israel and, apparently, Jews in general. He works for the benefit of Muslim countries to the detriment of American interests (see Pakistan and Iran). See also his command that NASA's raison d'etre was to make Muslims feel good about themselves. And, as a matter of Islamic law, he is a Muslim because he is the son of a Muslim. He hung out with Muslims before he was President; the LA Times acquired and likely destroyed a video of such an event, and wasn't his shady friend who was thrown in prison in Chicago whose name I can't remember also Muslim?

In fact, the only real evidence he *isn't* Muslim is 1) his attendance at a racist church for twenty years, which was almost certainly done for explicitly political reasons (Chicago), and 2) his hanging on the words of a burned out old communist.

It's not like it is some crazy conspiracy theory. There is a LOT more evidence that he is Muslim than he is Christian or any other religion.

Also, taking the words of an Obama speech as proof of anything about his character is naive. This is the most dishonest president we have ever, ever had, who lies often and about matters both great and small whenever he thinks it is to his advantage. He lies about lying. He even lies about telling the truth. He is utterly shameless and cannot be trusted.

Case in point: he gave that little speech about condemning hatred as his agents were hunting down and imprisoning Hillary's film-maker scapegoat who, as a matter of fact, had fuck-all to do with Benghazi.

Posted by: Df82 at January 31, 2015 04:22 PM (d6Wn7)

197 BTW, today is the 149th anniversary of (a radical Republican) Congress passing the 13th Amendment.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 31, 2015 04:23 PM (0Ew3K)

198 For somebody who's not a Muslim he's done more to expand Islam's sphere of influence than anyone since Saladin.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at January 31, 2015 04:23 PM (XO6WW)

199 So basically he was brought up in a Muslim environment by Commies who hate whitey. That about sum it up?

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at January 31, 2015 04:23 PM (dFi94)

200 OT. Hey all, I usually lurk, and don't get to read all the comments, but did anyone catch the 2 AoS refrences on RED EYE the past couple of weeks? One was from a blogger, Ben Dominich maybe? He was voting for SMOD! Then last night, or night before, Andy said Peruvia a few times. Just wondering if anyone else caught that.

Posted by: JarvisW at January 31, 2015 04:24 PM (E7Iyp)

201 In his Egyptian speech he stood before the crowd and proclaimed "I am one of you".

Posted by: navybrat at January 31, 2015 04:25 PM (JgC5a)

202 The Politically Incorrect History of the African Slave Trade Regnery should totally do this book. I can send notes n' quotes to whoever picks up this task.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 04:25 PM (AVEe1)

203 OT: Good news:

Walker Surging in Iowa Poll as Bush Struggles

http://tinyurl.com/mg5uwb2

Posted by: The Polling Hat at January 31, 2015 09:12 PM (0Ew3K)



I am getting real close to fully jumping on the Walker bandwagon. Conservatives need to coalesce around a candidate for 2016 and stick with them thru whatever the GOPe and media throw at them.

Posted by: cm9000 at January 31, 2015 04:26 PM (8zCR+)

204 yeah, he is not a secret Muslim, though technically according to Islam they claim all that have a Muslim Father, not sure about the mother.

But as for his "future does not belong" repetitions, the other points he makes are mostly criminal or murderous acts.  The rest is only used to support his logic of why we should not take the name of Mohammed in vain.  No Christian thinks in terms of "future doesn't belong to those the insult Jesus".  Jesus was "insulted" by religious leaders, more than any other man Christians might say.

Barry was raised hating America, his first mentor being a full blown communist steeped in the propaganda.  That took him to Jarrett (her father being commie friend with Davis) and Rev. God Damn America.  Their religion is based in "if Jesus is white we'd better kill him" Marxist theology twisted into Black Liberation Theology.

Obama's religion of hate for America aligns with communism and with Islam in that they also see white WASPy America as the oppressor.  And Dinesh d'Souza's book describes the hate for white colonialists, which apparently morphed into America, from the British crown we freed ourselves from. 

"The future must not belong to those corrupt few who steal a country's resources".  He's surely referring to the white colonialists, America as the evil empire of capitalism.  He must weaken America (and Christianity) and turn as much power over to non-whites as possible.  He's become very flexible after his last election.

Posted by: Illiniwek at January 31, 2015 04:26 PM (JWHJX)

205 >>> the statement in question constitutes some sort of endorsement or acknowledgement of Islamic exceptionalism is incorrect<<< I'd have to dissent from this. The slavish genuflecting to any Muslim in the wake of the Benghazi attack was something I thought I'd never see. The oddly timed Eid al-Fitr and the apology video they showed in Pakistan. Dumb I grant, but sometimes tolerance gets awfully close to "going native".

Posted by: rich@gmu at January 31, 2015 04:26 PM (OjnNr)

206 Df82 - good comment. I'm still unconvinced but you brought the pertinent facts to the thread, and I respect that.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 31, 2015 04:27 PM (AVEe1)

207 From your sidebar:

Open Jihad Declared in Egypt Following State Dept. Meeting with Musim-Brotherhood-Aligned Leaders

Any other questions?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at January 31, 2015 04:27 PM (XO6WW)

208 Yeah not a secret muslim at all OM...

I think this is a misreading of Obama's reflexive anti-Western, anti-American worldview as being proof of his being a Muslim.

(thanks to cm9000 for this succinct restatement of my main point)


Posted by: OregonMuse at January 31, 2015 04:28 PM (SNhR+)

209 144 The JEF is entirely sympatico to Islam. His constant embrace of the Muslim Brotherhood in the Oval Office should surprise no one. Just this week, even. Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2015 08:57 PM (FsuaD) _________________ Perhaps we privileged but non-exceptional Americans just do not understand his "nuanced" world view. *spit*

Posted by: fly gal at January 31, 2015 04:28 PM (pq76f)

210 There is no mystery here. Have any of you ever spent time with leftists? Have any of you ever listened to Evan Sayet's thoughts on the leftist mind-set?" obama will always take the the opposite and wrong side in every single issue. obama is wired to think and process everything wrong. In obama's mind it all makes sense, because it's the opposite of what You think or would do.

Posted by: Reflective Alternate-Reality Soothsayer at January 31, 2015 04:29 PM (mFNJH)

211 I am getting real close to fully jumping on the Walker bandwagon. Conservatives need to coalesce around a candidate for 2016 and stick with them thru whatever the GOPe and media throw at them. Posted by: cm9000 at January 31, 2015 09:26 PM (8zCR+) We need to go full Brazilian: No Bush.

Posted by: The Waxed Hat at January 31, 2015 04:29 PM (0Ew3K)

212 207 Yeah, and State Dept called the meeting "productive" or something like that. Amaetuer Hour

Posted by: JarvisW at January 31, 2015 04:29 PM (E7Iyp)

213 207 From your sidebar: Open Jihad Declared in Egypt Following State Dept. Meeting with Musim-Brotherhood-Aligned Leaders Any other questions? Posted by: richard mcenroe at January 31, 2015 09:27 PM (XO6WW) And, the prosecution rests.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at January 31, 2015 04:30 PM (dFi94)

214 obama, like all leftists, think like children. Out of sheer spite, they'll disagree with adults on everything including the color of the sky.

Posted by: Reflective Alternate-Reality Soothsayer at January 31, 2015 04:30 PM (mFNJH)

215 We need to go full Brazilian: No Bush

Ha! Maybe Walker can get an endorsement from Miss Bum-bum.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 31, 2015 04:30 PM (SNhR+)

216 We need to go full Brazilian: No Bush. Posted by: The Waxed Hat at January 31, 2015 09:29 PM (0Ew3K) hardwoods in 2016 !! I'm down with that

Posted by: Peppa Pig fanboy at January 31, 2015 04:31 PM (N21UI)

217 @206: Thanks for the kind words.

My personal opinion is that he is a "lapsed Muslim." He internalized Islam, but like many American Muslims is not terribly observant. But hating the West and Jews? Siding with Muslims reflexively? He's all about that.

It wouldn't surprise me to hear that he "rediscovered religion" when he's out of office, and becomes an Islamic apologist explicitly.

Posted by: Df82 at January 31, 2015 04:32 PM (d6Wn7)

218 In his Egyptian speech he stood before the crowd and proclaimed "I am one of you". Sure he did. He thinks hes a citizen of the world, and what's more, an African downtrodden by the man.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 31, 2015 04:33 PM (39g3+)

219 That white woman who crossed the street to avoid the young choomster never had any idea of the "butterfly effect" she had started.

Posted by: bergerbilder at January 31, 2015 04:35 PM (2o6Wj)

220 2 hours and 15 minutes until January 2015 is history..

Posted by: Reflective Alternate-Reality Soothsayer at January 31, 2015 04:35 PM (mFNJH)

221 "lapsed Muslim"

Used that term myself

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 31, 2015 04:36 PM (NaeCR)

222 OB your wrist is limp,
That said,
we all know President Zero and his affliction to be the first President to Declare a Palestinian State.
 That will not happen and the Mooslim thing will eventually hang itself.
WE GOT THE BOOMERS AND THE TACTICAL GLOW WORMS>
ISLAMO

Posted by: COL Jetro at January 31, 2015 04:36 PM (/WmRg)

223 2 hours and 15 minutes until January 2015 is history.. Posted by: Reflective Alternate-Reality ------------------ * what!? *

Posted by: Rip Van Winkle at January 31, 2015 04:37 PM (F2IAQ)

224 130 MUMR is, or was "raykon". Is that really true? MUMR showed a lot of restraint for a while. I would not have thought that raykon could do that.

Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2015 04:38 PM (qyomX)

225 Ich ben ein goatfucker.

Posted by: Hussein at the Brandenburg Gate at January 31, 2015 04:39 PM (lG2E3)

226 I think this is a spot on analysis. And because it's so well done I'm going to drink in OMs honor.

Posted by: thathalfrican at January 31, 2015 04:39 PM (R5HRU)

227 In retrospect, the Inquisition wasn't such a bad idea. It's just too bad that they concentrated their efforts on jews and heretics.

Posted by: bergerbilder at January 31, 2015 04:39 PM (2o6Wj)

228 An interesting question right now is "who is the Left most afraid of." I might be biased, but it sure seems as though the answer is my preferred 2016 candidate, Scott Walker.

Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2015 04:41 PM (qyomX)

229 In retrospect, the Inquisition wasn't such a bad idea. It's just too bad that they concentrated their efforts on jews and heretics. Posted by: bergerbilder at January 31, 2015 09:39 PM (2o6Wj) Heretics are always a greater threat to heathens.

Posted by: The Heathen Hat at January 31, 2015 04:41 PM (0Ew3K)

230 Obama is a fucking pussy.

Posted by: Buddy Hinton at January 31, 2015 04:41 PM (6E2VN)

231 2 hours and 15 minutes until January 2015 is history..

Posted by: Reflective Alternate-Reality Soothsayer at January 31, 2015 09:35 PM (mFNJH)



I am deeply offended by your time-zonistic supremacy. It is more than 3 hours away where I am from.

Posted by: cm9000 at January 31, 2015 04:42 PM (8zCR+)

232 Obama is a fucking pussy. Posted by: Buddy Hinton at January 31, 2015 09:41 PM (6E2VN) And how!

Posted by: Reggie Love at January 31, 2015 04:42 PM (0Ew3K)

233 230 Obama is a fucking pussy. Not precisely. He will go to great lengths to acquire his narcissistic supplies.

Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2015 04:42 PM (qyomX)

234 Hey! Sock count for me! Number one! Look out, y'all. Obama is a fucking pussy.

Posted by: i like anchors at January 31, 2015 04:43 PM (6E2VN)

235 Obama makes it difficult to match up his words with his actions.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at January 31, 2015 04:48 PM (WNERA)

236 In cocnclusion, obama is closer to a secret demon than a secret muslim.

Posted by: Reflective Alternate-Reality Soothsayer at January 31, 2015 04:48 PM (mFNJH)

237 >>>We need to go full Brazilian: No Bush. Posted by: The Waxed Hat at January 31, 2015 09:29 PM (0Ew3K) <<< ha ... gotta steal that.

Posted by: rich@gmu at January 31, 2015 04:48 PM (OjnNr)

238 208 Posted by: OregonMuse at January 31, 2015 09:28 PM (SNhR+)

I just don't buy that ALL his mistakes, slips, and high fives to Islam are simple retardation on his part, a typical leftoid internationalist bent etc etc

YMMV Jeremiah Wright(a former Black Muslim himself)
http://tinyurl.com/qes9s85 said he made it "comfortable for Obama to not have to renounce his Muslim roots"...

Hell I'd respect him if he came out of the closet b/c America could judge his idiocy for what it is.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077[/i][/b][/s] at January 31, 2015 04:49 PM (/4AZU)

239 As a full-blown sociopathic malignant narcissist with overwhelming delusions of grandeur, Barack Obama most likely believes he himself is a Prophet on par with Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, Moses, Lao Tsu and all the rest. Only bigger and better, because he is, after all, Barack Obama.


Posted by: davidt at January 31, 2015 04:49 PM (fBxC6)

240 Give up, what the heck is The non acronym of JEF?

Posted by: Edmund Burke's Shade at January 31, 2015 04:49 PM (cmBvC)

241 Still stupefied that he was elected twice. Here we go again, people announcing their candidacy. How many THIS time around? Who in the D party needs research teams and smear machines? Let's save them all some money, FFS But but but but but so and so doesn't feel this way about this goddamned subject, that goddmned subject, that goddmned subject, that goddmned subject etc etc. Seriously? Whoever it is, vote AGAINST the god damned "Democrat" FFS. Reagan II? All that bullshit? The only reason our senile "betters" voted for Regan is because he wasn't Carter or Mondale. Vote AGAINST these mother fujjklers for a change. Jesus muthaerfji ng Christ.

Posted by: i like anchors at January 31, 2015 04:50 PM (6E2VN)

242 Come out of the closet, Hussein!

Posted by: Tom Cruise at January 31, 2015 04:50 PM (lG2E3)

243 Certainly he was raised in a fundamental Islamic white/West hating environment. Certainly his momma was one of many confused white girls that were ill, preyed on and Stockholmed.She may have been talent spotted and used as a breeder for future revolutionary cadre - both the USSR and China had/have the long view of Islam in Africa and SE Asia. They may have had assistance in getting set up in Hawaii. If not he may well have been talent spotted in Hawaii - he certainly was a prime candidate to bring to the mainland for grooming. Or he may just have scored a white guilt ticket into college. Without a doubt in college his radicalization and grooming began. It's textbook Moscow-think. Straight out of the recruitment and retention manuals. Then the USSR collapsed,many of the US tools, fools and moles died off or got tired or bailed for the money rather than the ideology. But ideological programming runs deep. He was created to divide and destroy. With the intent of Communist fascism replacing that which was torn down. That system failed so he destroys with out his owners and masters having anything in place to put into place. Hence the scramble to raise up Islamofascism and related shiite... Obama is a programed tool and slave. The irony is deep.

Posted by: Citizen OG Celtic-American, Comrade 69, Level Ultraviolet Troubleshooter at January 31, 2015 04:50 PM (ASn1R)

244 217 Posted by: Df82 at January 31, 2015 09:32 PM (d6Wn7)

Absolutely, by deference Obama is more Muslim than I am Catholic since Francis rose to power.

*That* is the point.

He reflexively, pathologically must aid radical Islam whenever it is not PERSONALLY detrimental.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077[/i][/b][/s] at January 31, 2015 04:50 PM (/4AZU)

245 I know this is probably out of line but nevertheless Obama has secretly taken a liking to Navycopjoe and his BIG baton that he swirls around in the Indian headdress outfit while off base...

Posted by: tbd at January 31, 2015 04:51 PM (FDXPC)

246 Give up, what the heck is The non acronym of JEF?

the Jug-Eared-Fcuk.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 31, 2015 04:52 PM (SNhR+)

247 He has a sweet spot for muzzies but as Dennis Preger says He's a lefty first.

Posted by: skip at January 31, 2015 04:53 PM (qwHuZ)

248 An interesting question right now is "who is the Left most afraid of." I might be biased, but it sure seems as though the answer is my preferred 2016 candidate, Scott Walker. Posted by: Splunge at January 31, 2015 09:41 PM (qyomX) Well, clearly they feared Perry early on. But, I think they believe that they've neutralized him now. So, they're going after Walker and *eye roll* Jeb!

Posted by: naturalfake at January 31, 2015 04:53 PM (KBvAm)

249 "A vote for (so-and-so) is a vote for (such and such). Goddammit - not casting a vote for so-and-so gets people like Obama elected. The inability for people to understand this infuriates me. Get involved now. Run. Back a candidate. Send financial support. Get involved. Whatever. When push comes to shove and we've got what we've got, the lesser of two evils? Vote for the lesser of two evils goddammit!

Posted by: i like anchors at January 31, 2015 04:55 PM (6E2VN)

250 JEF = jug-eared fucker. It's hard to keep track. I was hung up on TFG for a while.

Posted by: bergerbilder at January 31, 2015 04:56 PM (2o6Wj)

251 Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 31, 2015 09:22 PM (/4AZU) - thanks. nice to be back.

Posted by: rich@gmu at January 31, 2015 04:57 PM (OjnNr)

252 250 Posted by: bergerbilder at January 31, 2015 09:56 PM (2o6Wj)

I just call him one of a few of my own...

"giggles"

"General Manly Throw McMomjeans IV-Hero of Hole 19"

"America's Golf pro"

He's not exactly hard to mock no matter what the fuck the left says.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077[/i][/b][/s] at January 31, 2015 04:58 PM (/4AZU)

253 Who has the bigger moobs: Jeb or Chrissy?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 31, 2015 04:58 PM (lG2E3)

254 Obama is a programed tool and slave. The irony is deep.

Posted by: Citizen OG Celtic-American, Comrade 69, Level Ultraviolet Troubleshooter at January 31, 2015 09:50 PM (ASn1R)



You hit a lot of good points. I too think Obamanism owes more to Moscow than to Mohammed.

Posted by: cm9000 at January 31, 2015 05:00 PM (8zCR+)

255 Who has the bigger moobs: Jeb or Chrissy? Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 31, 2015 09:58 PM (lG2E3) There's only one way to find out... http://tinyurl.com/b8h5s5y

Posted by: The Blindfolded Hat at January 31, 2015 05:01 PM (0Ew3K)

256 2008 "I can't vote for McCain" 2012 "I can't vote for Romney" Seriously? Thanks! Way to go. Effing BRILLIANT. Do you play tiddly-winks? FFS. Fifty bucks says Zombie Reagan wouldn't tick off enough "must haves" for us morons. We are God damned DOUCHEBAGS. But there is strength in numbers goddammit. Please please please support your candidate in the primaries. Also, please pleaee please vote AGAINST the goddamned democrat. It is simple shit.

Posted by: i like anchors at January 31, 2015 05:03 PM (6E2VN)

257 Whites literally have more in common with Ethiopians and Somalis, than Ethiopians and Somalis have with Bantu. So yeah. Obama's Y chromosome *will* tell the tale. What did Michelle's Y chromosome tell us?

Posted by: Insomniac at January 31, 2015 05:04 PM (mx5oN)

258 We have nothing to fear from John McCain in the White House. Unless a quart of strawberries goes missing.

Posted by: Hyper Fennec at January 31, 2015 05:05 PM (ChCyD)

259 Can't stomach to see the infighting here at AoSHQ. I know it is coming. I'd rather see the unity. And finally getting NOT THAT GUY/GAL elected. The brake fluid is leaking.

Posted by: i like anchors at January 31, 2015 05:05 PM (6E2VN)

260 Can't stomach to see the infighting here at AoSHQ. I know it is coming. I'd rather see the unity. And finally getting NOT THAT GUY/GAL elected. The brake fluid is leaking.

Posted by: i like anchors at January 31, 2015 05:06 PM (6E2VN)

261 2008 "I can't vote for McCain" 2012 "I can't vote for Romney" So let tfg win

Posted by: Cicero Skip at January 31, 2015 05:06 PM (FIrEF)

262 JEB... Jug Eared Babycakes

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 31, 2015 05:06 PM (LIyA2)

263 ONT is up. You will not be first.

Posted by: The Political Hat at January 31, 2015 05:07 PM (0Ew3K)

264
There's only one way to find out...

http://tinyurl.com/b8h5s5y


Ugh. Thanks a pantload, Hat. I just had dinner.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 31, 2015 05:08 PM (SNhR+)

265 Then last night, or night before, Andy said Peruvia a few times. Just wondering if anyone else caught that. Posted by: JarvisW at January 31, 2015 09:24 PM (E7Iyp) I caught the Peruvia references. I wasn't sure if AOS is where that started.

Posted by: bergerbilder at January 31, 2015 05:08 PM (2o6Wj)

266 "i STAND WITH iSLAM" AND THE THE "MOST BEAUTIFUL SOUND i HAVE EVER HEARD ARE THE CALL TO PRAY." Your story is poor. Try again.

Posted by: Veritas at January 31, 2015 05:08 PM (QN7lB)

267 Posted by: i like anchors at January 31, 2015 10:03 PM (6E2VN) You mad, bro?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 31, 2015 05:08 PM (lG2E3)

268 266 Posted by: Veritas at January 31, 2015 10:08 PM (QN7lB)


"mmmmmmfffff uh mmmmffff gag mmmfff mmmfff"

//Bronko Bama and Geoff the Goat calling to prayer

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077[/i][/b][/s] at January 31, 2015 05:14 PM (/4AZU)

269 258 We have nothing to fear from John McCain in the White House. Unless a quart of strawberries goes missing. Point taken. I understand squish. But the GOP allowed that only because we allowed it. The Left nominates the GOP candidates. W? W was supposed to make Gore a shoe in. He wound up being an incredible CIC. Lousy fiscal President, but an INCREDIBLE CiC. Contrast that with Obama and the Code Pink approach to national security. McCain is damaged. I'd still vote for him if it keeps a Democrat out of the American Presidency. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGdGFtwCNBE

Posted by: i like anchors at January 31, 2015 05:17 PM (6E2VN)

270 It would have been different had he said something like: "The future must not belong to those who martyr the followers of Jesus Christ." Only the "prophet" of Islam rated a mention with him.

Posted by: baldilocks at January 31, 2015 05:18 PM (t2Kll)

271 Recd. an email ranting about Obama's Muslim appts. Not all are actually his, but it does show the degree of Muslim influence in our Govt. It's a bit hysterical and I can't vouch for the validity but I thought the horde can check it out. > John Brennan, current head of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia . > > Obama's top advisor, Valerie Jarrett, is a Muslim who was born in Iran where her parents still live. > > Hillary Clinton's top advisor, Huma Abedin is a Muslim, whose mother and brother are involved in the now outlawed Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt . > > Assistant Secretary for Policy Development for Homeland Security, Arif Aikhan, is a Muslim. > > Homeland Security Advisor, Mohammed Elibiary, is a Muslim. > > Obama advisor and founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, Salam al-Marayati, is a Muslim. > > Obama's Sharia Czar, Imam Mohamed Magid, of the Islamic Society of North America is a Muslim. > > Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships, Eboo Patel, is a Muslim. > > And last but not least, our closet Muslim himself, Barack Hussein Obama. > > It's questionable if Obama ever officially took the oath of office when he was Sworn in. He didn't repeat the oath properly to defend our nation and our Constitution. Later the Democrats claimed he was given the oath again in private? > > CIA director John Brennan took his oath on a copy of the Constitution, not a Bible. > > Congressman, Keith Ellison took his oath on a copy of the Qur'an.

Posted by: Farmer at January 31, 2015 05:21 PM (o/90i)

272 267 Posted by: i like anchors at January 31, 2015 10:03 PM (6E2VN) You mad, bro? No. Just taking shit seriously. Maybe a bit too seriously. Thanks for asking, by the way. Seeing a long list of "gop" hopefuls thinking that they can face off against the propaganda machine that is progressive liberal America AGAIN is frustrating. I am just one of those five dollar an hour Republicans that people deride. I believe in this country and her principles. We protect capitalism for a couple hundred years or so, and WHAM look at the world now!

Posted by: i like anchors at January 31, 2015 05:23 PM (6E2VN)

273 "I never could quite see Obama seeing a secret Muslim." You could if you would look at more than one inflammatory but insignificant piece of evidence out of the mountain of highly damning evidence. The guy worked systematically for four years to advance the Muslim Brotherhood to power in Egypt, advocating for them explicitly and by name every step of the way. For anyone who doesn't know, the Brotherhood IS al Qaeda. They are the parent organization, of which al Qaeda is a wholly owned subsidiary, just like the Muslim Students Association and a host of other Islamic organizations in the west. All were founded and are run by the Brotherhood, INCLUDING AL QAEDA. Obama also backed al Qaeda and Islamofacist fighters directly in Libya and Syria, where he was instrumental in the creation of ISIS, and he paved the way for ISIS in Iraq by pulling U.S. troops out. Open Blogger also needs to know something about Islam. When Obama calls himself a Christian he is following one of the most basic instructions of orthodox Islam: that Muslims living in infidel countries are supposed to pretend that they are infidels, if by doing so they can advance Islamic conquest. Just google "for war is deception" (Tabari 8.23). As a boy studying the Koran, Obama probably never learned that particular doctrine. It wouldn't have been relevant to children growing up in an Islam-dominated country, but he certainly would have been taught it by Jeremiah Wright, who is himself a Muslim (an "ex" Black Muslim), who supposedly converted to Christianity while studying for his masters degree in Islam. Obvious that he came across Tabari 8.23 and the Islamic jurisprudence that descends from it and realized that, as a recent convert to Islam, he was supposed to pretend that he was an Infidel. Obama is known to have gone to Wright for advice about how to square his Islamic heritage with his need to work with the mostly church based black-activist movement in Chicago, and it is obvious what Wright told him: "Just lie about being a Christian, the same as I do." Study Wright's church and see what he teaches and you'll see that he actually teaches, not the Christian law of love (to love EVERYONE as yourself) but the Islamic law of hate (to only love members of your own group, and hate everyone else). He just teaches the Nation of Islam version of the law of hate: to love black people and hate white people. "If God isn't against white people, then we have to kill him." That is what he teaches, the Nation of Islam doctrines that he converted to as a young man. He is still NOI. He just is one of the few NOI who ever actually studied Islam, so he knows that he is supposed to pretend that he is not Muslim. This is Obama's primary adult mentor, a Muslim pretending to be a Christian. The Open one needs to be open to a little more evidence before saying what he can and can't get his mind around.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at January 31, 2015 05:26 PM (kTTUz)

274 Obama's Sharia Czar, Imam Mohamed Magid, of the Islamic Society of North America is a Muslim.

WTF is a "Sharia Czar"?

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 31, 2015 05:27 PM (SNhR+)

275 WTF is a "Sharia Czar"? Posted by: OregonMuse at January 31, 2015 10:27 PM I've no idea. As I said some of this seemed off to me, I cut of some weirder parts. Just thought the vast horde might know something I don't. If no one looks into this one I will investigate.

Posted by: Farmer at January 31, 2015 05:41 PM (o/90i)

276 From truthorfiction.com- Imam Mohamed Magid naturalized citizen who immigrated to the United States from the Sudan in 1987. In 2011 President Barack Obama appointed Magid to serve in a Countering Violent Extremism Working Group with the DHS. On January 22, 2013 Magid took part in the inaugural ceremonies of President Obama but the White House has no Sharia Czar, a title given to Iman Magid by critics of the Obama Administration. OK WFT is "Countering Violent Extremism Working Group with the DHS", never heard of that. What the govt is doing in the bowels of bureaucracy is not to be made known to us I guess.

Posted by: Farmer at January 31, 2015 05:45 PM (o/90i)

277 I grew up in Toledo and attended Temple Shomer Emunim (Keeper of the Faith) on Collingwood Ave. (now in the 'hood) from '63-'73. I've known a number of rabbis over the last 50+ years, and none of them would have said any of the stupid shit TFG says, nor would they have been fooled by him. Last time I attended services, the current rabbi, who was Colonel in the Air National Guard and is not of the pencil-neck nebbishe strain of Judiasm, scolded the congregation for its affection for Dear Leader and his hollow promises. I was impressed - almost as much as I had been as a kid, when Rabbi Feuer, an old-school scholar of short stature but with the wrists and hands of a wrestler and a basso profundo voice, would call us on our behavior in class and we'd know he meant it.

Have been in a number of discussions over the past several years re "What is God?" I haven't been able to put the answer in a nutshell, but what I do know is He looks like Charleton Heston and sounds like Rabbi Feuer.

Posted by: Cowboyneal at January 31, 2015 06:00 PM (Qfl8/)

278 Obama's top advisor, Valerie Jarrett, is a Muslim who was born in Iran where her parents still live.

Objection, this assumes facts not in evidence.

There is little or no evidence Jarrett is a Muslim.

She is however, a transnational progressive/commie, just like her boss.

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 31, 2015 06:04 PM (SNhR+)

279 I've said he's a not so secret Muslim due to the fact that he was in a Muslim school in Indonesia and I doubt that they never had him perform the Shahada and once he did so, according to their rules, he then became a Muslim.

And it is not recantable. Once done, done for good.

When asked, most honest Muslims who know his background will say that he is a Muslim.

Note that he does not attend any genuine regular Christian church services. That he doesn't celebrate nor offer any greetings on the usual days of Christian celebration.

He IS a Muslim but not because the thinks the call to prayer is beautiful. It's because he was indoctrinated and trained at a young age to think and to be a Muslim.

By their fruits will ye know them.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at January 31, 2015 06:11 PM (RZzX3)

280 How dumb is that?

How completely, stupifyingly, mind-bogglingly, jaw-droppingly, gobsmackingly dumb is that?

So the reason Obama says crap like that is not because he's a secret Muslim. No, Obama says these things because he's a dumbass. A world-class dumbass. A transnational dumbass.



The truth is the Obama is deeply, profoundly, quintessentially stupid man.


Yeah, I know lefties all bleat about brilliant he is, but it's pretty clear that they do so as a pre-emptive strike against the stereotype of blacks as stupid.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s] at January 31, 2015 06:14 PM (oKE6c)

281 Thank you for the clarification on the 'secret Muslim' Obama speech, Oregon Muse. Useful to know the whole context. I wouldn't know because I make a point of not listening. Prolonged hissing sibilants go poorly with tinnitus. Much like Bush's "mission accomplished" speech. The person bringing it up to mischaracterize the president, cartoonize the party under discussion, flatly does not know what they are talking about, by being unfamiliar with the speech. For they too cannot bear to listen to one. This provides a response whenever "mission accomplished" comes up, and it does come up. They say, "mission accomplished," you say, "the future must not belong to those who insult Islam." What? You're doing with "mission accomplished" what they're doing "must not insult Islam." Lying.

Posted by: bour3 at January 31, 2015 06:26 PM (5x3+2)

282 Your Caturday Leela picture for the week.

http://tinyurl.com/m8q3oy2

Yes, she is beautiful, and you will enjoy seeing her.  (Guaranteed non-spider content.)

Thanks to everyone.

Posted by: Null at January 31, 2015 07:03 PM (xjpRj)

283 They say anything they want about our guys and broadcast it far and wide. Meanwhile we drive ourselves nuts intellectually analyzing and agonizing over whether any one of us is possibly being the slightest bit unfair or inaccurate in any one characterization. And this, my friends, is why we are losing on so very many fronts. Thank you and goodnight.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at January 31, 2015 07:45 PM (QCo5R)

284 Obama is a cultural Muslim. He's not religious but he values Muslim culture and his sympathies remain with Islam.

Posted by: Robert Sendler at January 31, 2015 08:03 PM (sc00F)

285 One can only wonder when these feckless neo nada mensch will have their cojones drop. Cuando Caliente El Sol ?

Posted by: Ray at January 31, 2015 08:06 PM (AVxHd)

286 Chris Kyle and Chris Stevens murdered under questionable circumstances, as was even more seal team 6 and so many others under phony baloney RULES OF ENGAGEMENT that if one remembers was quite effective when demorats the Vietnam war. To make war more fair, meaning more American soldiers in body bags.  Michael Moore tried to tell you how deeply the left reviles our soldiers when he pissed on the memory and family of Chris Kyle.
You never see demorat/liberals speak that nasty of jihad Islam who butcher savagely butchering women and children and other civilians in mass murders/graves, and are OPENLY PROUD OF IT.

Posted by: ron n. at January 31, 2015 09:21 PM (YVQn/)

287 Not a muzzie, also not a Christian.  He is an atheist.

Posted by: Vic[/i] at February 01, 2015 12:19 AM (wlDny)

288 I thought this was a pretty decent post until I woke up this morning and saw it again. Muse spent considerable amount of time earnestly analyzing the words of a sociopathic liar, or words, in essence, which mean nothing. Actions are the key to this understanding this Bizarro. Even Obama knows his words are cheap.

Posted by: @PeeteySDee at February 01, 2015 01:44 AM (ir3Yt)

289 Who wrote this post?  Valerie Jarrett?

Posted by: wookie at February 01, 2015 02:26 AM (EOJeZ)

290 To borrow a phrase I saw on Facebook, Obama is a secular Islamist - He is not a Muslim, but he promotes Islamism because it is counter to the Western (formerly colonial) capitalist powers. He is anti-Western and anti-capitalist Also, I think there is a term already for Transnational Progressive - Communist. Its like calling the trash collector a sanitation engineer.

Posted by: Putin's Puppet Barry at February 01, 2015 02:37 AM (qk792)

291 I have a running joke that he's a terrible secret Muslim because all of his public actions are in the direction of furthering Islam and a future global caliphate that Obama leads. He hates IS way more than al Queda or the Tollybon because they declared a caliphate before he did. Also, he probably thinks he's the 12th imam, which is how you square his religiousness with his narcissism.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 01, 2015 03:13 AM (6QHER)

292 Obama barely knew his birth father,and was only in Indonesia for a couple of years before being sent back to Hawaii to live with his Grandparents.  He spent far more of his formative years with them than he did with his step father.  His grandparents, like many on the far left, opted for attending a Unitarian church. 

A lot of Obama's mumblings about religion would fit right in with one hears in a Unitarian church. So does this White House's habit of celebrating the holidays of many different religions.  Modern Unitarians are familiar with all the world's religions, love to ape the various rituals as a display of cross cultural tolerance and yet they believe in nothing other than some vague spiritual sounding new age catch phrases.  

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at February 01, 2015 03:45 AM (MviPE)

293 Obama, and other liberals, think that promoting a moderate form of Islam is the best way to fight radical Islam. Because if the government were promoting Christianity, that would be intolerant. So in order to not be intolerant, the government must promote Islam instead of Christianity. This is the way they think.

Posted by: JohnJ at February 01, 2015 05:18 AM (TF/YA)

294 "I am an Iranian by birth and of my Islamic faith. I am also an American citizen and I seek to change America to be a more Islamic country. My faith guides me and I feel like it is going well in the transition of using freedom of religion in America against itself."

Valerie Jarrett, Stanford University, 1977

Posted by: PPs43 at February 01, 2015 06:25 AM (gs8t9)

295 @Posted by: Inspector Cussword at January 31, 2015 08:14 PM (scgac) That's some 5-star rag-on, right there. Howlingly funny!

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 01, 2015 07:26 AM (HF5Zy)

296 Very late in commenting - first, I wanted to read the "excellent essay" you referenced and the article that it referenced. A lot of clicking and reading, during which I got sidetracked. (Skype is European, too - developed in Estonia - but his observations about Philips is noteworthy.) The essay is indeed excellent. Thanks for posting and linking!

Posted by: FireHorse at February 01, 2015 08:43 AM (8cWgt)

297 Obama is neither Muslim nor Christian. He is a Marxist - a mixture of lazy American upper-class liberal Marxism and "Black Liberation Theology" Marxism. BLT, created in the 1960s, is Marxism tweaked and tuned then coated in a very thin veneer of "Christianity" so as to be more easily spread into traditionally very religious Black-American culture.

Obama's strong affinity for Islam comes from three sources: First, his 20+ years under Rev. Wright's mentorship attending Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ (which is based on BLT) which had a very cozy relationship with Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam (NOI). 

Second, Obama was exposed to Islam quite a bit as a youth.

Third - and IMO the most dangerous reason - is the same reason behind the the seemingly unnatural, hypocritical affinity for Islam held by other Western Leftist's.

Leftists don't believe in God by any name. Operationally, the Left views Islam pragmatically, first and foremost as a form of government - not as a religion. Like they do everything else, they judge Islam as to how it can help or hurt the Left's core cause of establishing an authoritarian centralized national government. The left is not really about human rights for women or gays or anyone else - they pretend otherwise as a means to their end. 

Islam as a government stripped of religious veneer is much more like a Marxist centralized, authoritarian government where the state is the source of human rights than either America's democratically-elected republic or Europe's parliamentary forms of governments.

The affinity of the Left for Islam is an 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' thing. The enemy of both being individual liberty.

Posted by: DrDeano at February 01, 2015 11:30 AM (x18S2)

298 I think he will do or say whatever it takes to maintain his narcissistic vision. He only believes in himself.

Posted by: Chelie at February 01, 2015 04:30 PM (Wjptn)

299 Why don't you make the argument that Obama is an atheist? \

Posted by: Draki at February 02, 2015 03:59 AM (0eidE)

300 You're missing something fairly obvious here, OregonMuse.

"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam"

is an explicitly religious statement. "Slandering the prophet of Islam" isn't a crime under anything but sharia, and the quasi-sharia European laws about "religious incitement." You might also want to look up the Islamic definition of "slander;" Muslims define it as saying something about someone that that person would not wish known, regardless of whether it's the truth.

All the other "must not belongs" concern actual crimes against people or property, except for Holocaust denial, though that's at least related to mass murder. "Slandering the prophet of Islam" doesn't lead to murder except when it's Muslims doing the murdering.

As the Sesame Street song goes, "One of these things is not like the other."

Posted by: Megan at February 02, 2015 04:19 AM (PhxOq)

301 Obama is a communist. An enemy of my enemy is my friend. The communist and the Islamists are friends for now.

Posted by: burt at February 02, 2015 08:24 AM (ls8AU)

302 I'll believe the 'Obama is a Muslim' stories as soon as he starts worshiping in a mosque. There's nothing to stop him now, no political fallout, no polls he must suffer the consequences of, if that's what he really wants to do.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 03, 2015 07:08 AM (I8YZX)

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