March 30, 2015

Obama Plans Major Reversal In Israel Policy as Emboldened Iran Demands Even More Concessions on Nukes
— Ace

Iran wants more, reports the Free Beacon's Adam Kredo.

LAUSANNE, Switzerland--Iranian negotiators are becoming rigid and unmoving in their stance on a range of key nuclear issues in talks, according to multiple sources familiar with the negotiations who said Tehran is angling to elicit as many concessions as possible from the United States as the talks reach a critical stage ahead of the looming March 31 deadline.

Iran is pushing for major relief from economic sanctions and the ability to continue sensitive research and development on the nuclear and weapons fronts, according to sources quoted in the Iranian state-controlled press on Sunday.

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"The Iranians are again outplaying the Americans," said one source in Europe familiar with the negotiations. "They know they’'l have to give up certain things eventually. So they're digging in their heels on issues that mean everything and preparing to give ground on relatively minor issues--but not yet, and not until they see how much more the Americans are willing to give."

Previous concessions by the United States appear to have motivated Iran to push harder on issues such as the possible military dimensions of its nuclear program, as well as continued work on advanced centrifuges and increased sanctions relief, according to a second American source apprised of the demands being set forth.

Iran wants to know how much more it can get off President Backseat Becky. My guess is, they can go all the way and then some.

Meanwhile, he's planning on a "crockery-breaking" turn on Israel, writes Jackson Diehl of the Washington Post.

President Obama’s rhetorical assault on Benjamin Netanyahu last week was in part the product of pique. But it also set the stage for what could be another crockery-breaking bid by Obama for a foreign policy legacy, on a par with his opening to Cuba and would-be nuclear deal with Iran.

By declaring Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations dead and blaming Netanyahu, Obama laid the predicate for a decision to go forward with a U.S.-backed U.N. Security Council resolution that would set the terms for a final peace settlement. Envisioned as an updating of U.N. Resolution 242, which has been part of the framework for the Mideast "peace process" since the 1960s, the idea would be to mandate the solution to the questions Israelis and Palestinians have been unable to agree upon for decades, such as the future status of Jerusalem. Not incidentally, it would provide Obama with the Mideast legacy he has craved since his first day in office.

Whether or not it accelerated Palestinian statehood (and most likely it wouldn't), Obama's initiative would set off an earthquake in U.S. foreign relations and for Israel's standing in the world. For nearly half a century, the United States has taken the position that the terms for a peace settlement between Israelis and Palestinians must come about as the result of negotiations and not as an imposition by outside parties. At the United Nations, it has been a given that Washington will veto resolutions that aim to compel Israel to accept terms.

Now Obama is contemplating going forward with a resolution that was drafted last year by Secretary of State John Kerry and his Mideast negotiations team at the State Department. The language was drawn up in response to efforts by the Palestinians and France to win support for Security Council resolutions following the collapse of Kerry's attempt to get Israeli and Palestinian assent to a "framework agreement" France announced on Friday that it would renew its initiative, giving Obama a fresh prompt.

A country's currency only has to collapse once for it to lose much of its value, forever. And Obama has deliberately collapsed the currency of America's foreign policy reliability and trustworthiness -- he wants the world to know that we can shift like snakes at any time. That will keep other countries from allying with us, which is good, because America, not Iran, is the great contagion that must be contained.

Oh, Russian tanks are moving deeper into Ukraine. Maybe Obama has Iran's promise that they'll fix that crisis for him, too.

Posted by: Ace at 01:23 PM | Comments (209)
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1 Always a good position, go into negotiations letting your counterpart know you are desperate to make a deal.

Posted by: blaster at March 30, 2015 01:26 PM (1RmLL)

2 1

Posted by: Frank Zappa's other earworm[/i][/b][/s] at March 30, 2015 01:26 PM (DL2i+)

3 See I didn't have time to change socks. Hell I literally was changing socks.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 30, 2015 01:26 PM (DL2i+)

4 looming March 31 deadline. I keep seeing this but no explanation of why it's a deadline?

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 30, 2015 01:27 PM (DL2i+)

5 Wait wait wait - is Obama seriously contemplating a "final peace settlement?" Why not just go for a final solution, and be done with it.

Posted by: blaster at March 30, 2015 01:27 PM (1RmLL)

6 Are there men dressed in womens clothes in those Russian tanks?

Posted by: John Sheridan at March 30, 2015 01:27 PM (W5DcG)

7 Iran wants to know how much more it can get off President Backseat Becky. My guess is, they can go all the way and then some.

All the way?  He's begging for ass to mouth.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 30, 2015 01:27 PM (UVfht)

8 Obama essentially is telling Israel to trade American military secrets to China or Russia in exchange for their veto instead.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 30, 2015 01:27 PM (5LOno)

9 Dipshit and Horseface can't walk away without a deal. They HAVE to have something or look the complete fools. They've been totes outplayed.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 30, 2015 01:28 PM (MMC8r)

10 Sucks having an Islam-loving traitor as President.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 30, 2015 01:28 PM (ZPrif)

11 According to the Weekly Standard, we pay these mutts 3/4 of a Billion dollars per MONTH to stay at the negotiation table. http://goo.gl/A702Vz

Posted by: bonhomme at March 30, 2015 01:28 PM (jhqr1)

12 can get off President Backseat That would leave a mark if he wasn't genuflecting faster than the Ayatollahs can push the back of his head down.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at March 30, 2015 01:28 PM (DL2i+)

13 Always a good position, go into negotiations letting your counterpart know you are desperate to make a deal. ___ Hell I taught him everything he knows about negotiating with Iran!

Posted by: John Boehner at March 30, 2015 01:29 PM (5LOno)

14 "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility"

Posted by: Brack SCOAMF 0bama at March 30, 2015 01:30 PM (HVNGG)

15 Iran is wanting to see if Obama can swallow it all without gagging.

Posted by: Roy at March 30, 2015 01:30 PM (fWLrt)

16 The only hope on the nuke deal with Iran is if they get everything but still turn it dow.Like Arafat did.

Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2015 01:30 PM (KETbL)

17 Though, I do not believe that Obama can destroy Israel. That is not in the cards. What he can do, and what he is busily doing, is destroy the US relationship with Israel.

Posted by: blaster at March 30, 2015 01:30 PM (1RmLL)

18 Speaking of pussy negotiation techniques - this is also why no Congress should ever announce that they'll never impeach a President.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 30, 2015 01:30 PM (ZPrif)

19 We must have a deal at all costs! Hey Iran, what is that you want.

Posted by: Master Chess player BO at March 30, 2015 01:30 PM (ChY2Q)

20 Obama is an unspeakable disaster for the world.

Posted by: MTF, vote for someone the GOP insiders hate! at March 30, 2015 01:30 PM (FCsIb)

21 Pressed Rat and Warthog closed down their shop.

Posted by: Ginger Baker at March 30, 2015 01:31 PM (W5DcG)

22 I would just like to say as we begin these talks that I am prepared to offer you everything you ask for. This is not negotiable. I am firm on this point, and would not advise you to call my bluff.

Posted by: Preznit Smartpower at March 30, 2015 01:31 PM (MMC8r)

23 If the deal is bad enough - and it will be - isn't there some chance that Britain or France would veto it without any bribe from Israel, just because it's really really stupid?

Posted by: Dr Weevil at March 30, 2015 01:32 PM (srcjq)

24 He's not Islam Loving. He's a paid Foreign Agent in the employ of Iran. ValJar's his controller and the trips to the Golf course is where he goes for in person consultations.

Anyone who continues to think that Barry Soetero is a bumbling fool, naively ruining the country is whistling past the graveyard.

We elected a Muslim for President. Is it any surprise that all of his policies have led to the weakening of the US, it's allies and the strengthening of the Islamic State in embryo.

It's almost as if it was planned.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 30, 2015 01:32 PM (zRby/)

25 Tehran is angling to elicit as many concessions as possible from the United States" Only if by "angling" you mean "give us everything and then when you think you've given enough, make it more". Or something like that.

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 30, 2015 01:33 PM (KnbYp)

26 Prediction, ....The shit he does in the next two years will make us forget about this shit, and....the shit before that....and the shit before that......

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at March 30, 2015 01:33 PM (uJK1E)

27 I'd offer: 1. Less-Than-Global Thermonuclear War on March 31st 2. No restrictions on Iodine imports 3. Sunglasses taken off the sanctions list 4. But First, Iran shall suck the dick. But I'm no Obama.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at March 30, 2015 01:33 PM (S8V5R)

28 There's strong pro Palestinian sentiment in the UK and France.

Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2015 01:34 PM (KETbL)

29 At least I got a commemorative Reichschencellery letter opener in exchange for Czechoslovakia.

Posted by: Neville Chamberlin at March 30, 2015 01:34 PM (GuwT9)

30 Also anti Israel sentiment.

Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2015 01:34 PM (KETbL)

31 >>> Iran wants more Of course they do, bless their little radioactive hearts.

Posted by: LizLem at March 30, 2015 01:34 PM (yRwC8)

32 We'll give Iran everything they want.  Because this Administration and Obama are enemies of Israel.  And of the United States.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at March 30, 2015 01:34 PM (KuU4f)

33 Iranian negotiators are becoming rigid and unmoving in their stance on a range of key nuclear issues in talks, . . .



Another satisfied Enzyte customer!

Posted by: Smiling Bob at March 30, 2015 01:34 PM (JO9+V)

34 So Obama is in way over his head in negotiations with some half-wit nuts who keep running all over him. And Republicans, when trying to resolve any impasse with our Low Information President, get pantsed every single time. How reassuring.

Posted by: Furious George at March 30, 2015 01:34 PM (UlJ3l)

35 If the deal is bad enough - and it will be - isn't there some chance that Britain or France would veto it without any bribe from Israel, just because it's really really stupid? French diplos are already openly complaining about the deal. Who knows if they'll tank it. French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius came out and torpedoed the "90% of the way there" crap the Obama admin was peddling.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 30, 2015 01:35 PM (jhqr1)

36 18 Speaking of pussy negotiation techniques - this is also why no Congress should ever announce that they'll never impeach a President. Posted by: Costanza Defense at March 30, 2015 06:30 PM (ZPrif) Yes, it seems as if McConnell and Obama went to the same Acme school of negotiation. How hard is to say something like "there won't be any impeachment so long as Obama doesn't do anything to warrant it. That's really what McConnell meant, right? If Obama went Anakin Skywalker on a group of younglings, it would be on the table, right?

Posted by: duke at March 30, 2015 01:35 PM (ChY2Q)

37 Anyone interesting in starting a betting pool for the day that Iran nukes Israel?

Posted by: The Bettin' Hat at March 30, 2015 01:35 PM (0Ew3K)

38 It's almost as if it was planned. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 30, 2015 06:32 PM (zRby/) As if? It was planned

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 30, 2015 01:35 PM (oNvyP)

39 Long Alternate Post Title: We Went From obama 'Leading From Behind' To obama Leading From Behind The Locked Cockpit

Posted by: Soothsayer, Inc. -- The King Unwilling at March 30, 2015 01:36 PM (FRLeJ)

40 We elected a Muslim for President" Well, that's unhelpful. Heh. Oh, and back to the linked article: "concessions" ??? WTF? There's no "concessions" in "here, take it all"

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 30, 2015 01:36 PM (KnbYp)

41 Agree #24.

Posted by: Longbranch 303 at March 30, 2015 01:36 PM (3g/a8)

42 Bitter Clinger, I agree with your comment #24. He should be removed but no one dares because of racist threat. I'm with Mark Levin-he's not my president.

Posted by: Carol at March 30, 2015 01:36 PM (sj3Ax)

43 Your move, Bibi.

Posted by: eman at March 30, 2015 01:36 PM (Nl3J+)

44 This is not a Fuck Up. Do not call this a Fuck Up.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Inc. -- The King Unwilling at March 30, 2015 01:36 PM (FRLeJ)

45 Why oh why do they keep trying to pretend like Obama cares about his @#$# LEGACY as opposed to that he is simply a G-D traitor to this country?!?!

Posted by: Josh at March 30, 2015 01:36 PM (AUZJW)

46 In Howard The Duck, the young scientist asks Howard if he can read minds.
 
"What am I thinking?"
 
"He knows I'm a phony. He knows I'm a doofus."
 
"Wow. You really can read minds."
 
In the case of Jon '4 Pinnocichos Squared' Kerry and TFG, there is no need to hack their private email servers to find out their strategy. See the above dialogue to know their exact strategy.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 30, 2015 01:37 PM (Zn2ap)

47 We'll give Iran everything they want" No, we'll give them everything we can think of, and more. It's how the mandarin class rolls. Your move, Bibi" Yeah, about that. Interesting times we're living in, no?

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 30, 2015 01:38 PM (KnbYp)

48 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 30, 2015 06:35 PM (oNvyP)

OH. I'm sorry, I forgot the /sarc tag for the sarcastically impaired.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 30, 2015 01:38 PM (zRby/)

49 I said no anal until the second date! Kidding! They don't call me 'Backseat Betty' for nothing!

Posted by: Backseat Betty at March 30, 2015 01:38 PM (yl/WE)

50 >>Anyone interesting in starting a betting pool for the day that Iran nukes Israel? Not happening. Israel will go it alone if they have to, they've done it before and they'll do it again.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2015 01:38 PM (g1DWB)

51 You know what's next? For Iran and Cuba to get real cozy. Iran will be installing missiles at Cuba, just like 1961. But this time, obama won't stop them...he'll give them his blessing.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Inc. -- The King Unwilling at March 30, 2015 01:38 PM (FRLeJ)

52 Muslim or not,he is a radical leftist who hates the USA.

Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2015 01:38 PM (KETbL)

53 It looks like Jooo-hate has become official U.S. policy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 30, 2015 01:38 PM (8ZskC)

54 In the case of Jon '4 Pinnocichos Squared' Kerry and TFG, there is no need to hack their private email servers to find out their strategy. See the above dialogue to know their exact strategy. Posted by: GnuBreed But we did anyway.

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at March 30, 2015 01:38 PM (GuwT9)

55 Gross! Off slutty Betty sock!

Posted by: Backseat Becky at March 30, 2015 01:39 PM (yl/WE)

56 The cold storage cement pantry in the basement of my grandparent's house served a dual purpose: it is also a nuclear bunker (they built their house during the height of the cold war.) Still has the lead curtains to line the windows and everything. We always joked about it, but my grandpa was proud. I am beginning to think he might look like the wisest of us all when all when all of this is said and done...

Posted by: LizLem at March 30, 2015 01:39 PM (yRwC8)

57 I just can't even. If congress would have made an example of the ATF dude for Fast and Furious or better yet Holder and the ATF dude. Or Lerner, or any # of people to metaphorically whack EarLeaders knuckles and send a message to pigs at the federal troughs that *they* are not immune. Even reading old history and knowing the world got through evil idiots with great power in the past is little solace these days.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 30, 2015 01:39 PM (dkExz)

58 Again, I agree #45, this is what he was put here for.

Posted by: Longbranch 303 at March 30, 2015 01:39 PM (3g/a8)

59 But this time, obama won't stop them...he'll transport and set them up. There, FIFY

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 30, 2015 01:39 PM (KnbYp)

60 Your move, Bibi. What are the odds Israel sneaks a suitcase nuke into a Mullah meeting?

Posted by: bonhomme at March 30, 2015 01:39 PM (jhqr1)

61 who is Horseface's weird American sidekick with the fucked up hairdo. His hair is a monument to the total freakness of this exercise.

Posted by: redenzo at March 30, 2015 01:39 PM (WCnJW)

62 Seven years after 9/11 we elected a President named Hussein. On purpose.

Posted by: blaster at March 30, 2015 01:40 PM (1RmLL)

63 OH. I'm sorry, I forgot the /sarc tag for the sarcastically impaired. Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 30, 2015 Me too bitter :-)

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 30, 2015 01:40 PM (oNvyP)

64 I had just read latest from Free Beacon.

Posted by: Carol at March 30, 2015 01:40 PM (sj3Ax)

65 Well, silver lining: Nobody will listen to the SJWs bitching about manspreading when an American city is glowing. Oh, they'll still bitch. But there won't be time to listen.

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at March 30, 2015 01:41 PM (/luV5)

66 More concessions? What, like sending a carrier fleet over there to deliver the nukes to the mullahs?

Posted by: alexthechick - Come to us SMOD at March 30, 2015 01:41 PM (IrByp)

67 Seven years after 9/11 we " Wrong pronoun.

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 30, 2015 01:41 PM (KnbYp)

68 Now that I have my new retinal implant I can see the Obama foreign policy strategy in clear intimate detail... ...well, actually it's more like just vague shadows and outlines of shapes. But as Ace wrote in the eyeball thread: "But once you can do the basics of it, you can do the fine details of it."

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 30, 2015 01:42 PM (NeFrd)

69 Order today and we will double your order, for free!!      Just pay the additional  shipping and handling and you too can be iron-like!

Posted by: Smiling Bob at March 30, 2015 01:42 PM (JO9+V)

70 We can end Iran's nuclear program by nuking Israel ourselves.

Posted by: Preznit Smartpower at March 30, 2015 01:42 PM (MMC8r)

71 Iran wants more Because Crusades, and Indiana.

Posted by: Iblis at March 30, 2015 01:43 PM (9221z)

72 It's so crazy to think he's a muslim.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 30, 2015 01:43 PM (MMC8r)

73 Worse president evah!

Posted by: Bruce J. at March 30, 2015 01:44 PM (iQIUe)

74 Well, silver lining: Nobody will listen to the SJWs bitching about manspreading when an American city is glowing. I'm totally confused by comments like this. You think that leftists will suddenly realize the error of their ways in the face of horror? At times like that people go to what they know. Blame, projection, loathing, and recriminations would abound.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 30, 2015 01:44 PM (jhqr1)

75 If Obama could get away with offering to nuke Israel on Iran's behalf, he'd do it.

Posted by: The Hatpocolypse at March 30, 2015 01:45 PM (0Ew3K)

76 Nobody will listen to the SJWs bitching about manspreading when an American city is glowing. Oh, they'll still bitch. But there won't be time to listen. Posted by: Hawkins1701 Even better: when that day comes, they'll go from a nuisance to a protein source. Excellent with white wine and shallots.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the End Times Gourmet at March 30, 2015 01:45 PM (GuwT9)

77 It's more likely the NSA will be attacked by transvestites than the US will let Iran get a nuclear bomb.

Posted by: Great Thoughts from 2012 at March 30, 2015 01:45 PM (MMC8r)

78 You know what really hurts the worst? The US is now the laughingstock of the world. The Norks might as well put out a Team North Korea movie.
 
Of course Israel and the sunni kingdoms might not agree that this is a laughing matter.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 30, 2015 01:45 PM (Zn2ap)

79 71 Iran wants more Because Crusades, and Indiana. Posted by: Iblis at March 30, 2015 06:43 PM (9221z) So the gheys get the roof treatment now in Indy?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 30, 2015 01:45 PM (oNvyP)

80 Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 30, 2015 06:42 PM (NeFrd)

Stick one of those up your ass and you'll get an even clearer view of where the country and the world is at.


Is there a sarcasm implant? I apparently have lost mine or else it was just been temporarily overloaded (like for the last 7 years).

My Give a Shit Meter is working though. But it's showing LOW.

The best news is I may live long enough to see the Apocalypse.

Up close and personal as they say.

Wheeeeee!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 30, 2015 01:45 PM (zRby/)

81 We are simultaneously fighting against with Iran, fighting with Iran and "negotiating" with Iran over nuclear weapons. You gotta hand it to Obama, I've never seen anyone pull off that triple before.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2015 01:45 PM (g1DWB)

82 I'm pretty sure Preznitt Jarrett has a big account receivable w/the mullahs. Everyone laughed at D'nesh DeSouza, talking about the new caliphate. Guess what? It's here. It isn't queer. And it's going to last a long time.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 30, 2015 01:46 PM (5buP8)

83 I don't believe that Obama is smart enough to wreck as many things as he has. He is unknowledgeable enough to think that he's brilliant, and he has sufficient supplies of blind hatred and narcissistic self-regard that he is very easy to manipulate. ValJar recognized this early on. Who is above ValJar on the organizational chart?

Posted by: Furious George at March 30, 2015 01:46 PM (UlJ3l)

84 I'm totally confused by comments like this. You think that leftists will suddenly realize the error of their ways in the face of horror? The programmed response is "What did we do to bring this on ourselves?!?"

Posted by: Great Thoughts from 2012 at March 30, 2015 01:46 PM (MMC8r)

85 I'm totally confused by comments like this. You think that leftists will suddenly realize the error of their ways in the face of horror? At times like that people go to what they know. Blame, projection, loathing, and recriminations would abound. Posted by: bonhomme at March 30, 2015 06:44 PM (jhqr1) It would be a good thing to read my very next line. :-)

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at March 30, 2015 01:46 PM (/luV5)

86 At times like that people go to what they know. Blame, projection, loathing, and recriminations would abound." Exactly so. You burly men would be taking up all of that space in the back of the trucks 'n stuff. Instead of this box of iCrap and feminine justice theory books.

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 30, 2015 01:46 PM (KnbYp)

87 I saw Bibi show off latest sub in the last half hour & don't remember where it was!

Posted by: Carol at March 30, 2015 01:47 PM (sj3Ax)

88 The American left thinks if Israel would go away, the muzzles would stop killing each other and everyone else they can find.

Posted by: Longbranch 303 at March 30, 2015 01:47 PM (3g/a8)

89 "Why not just go for a final solution, and be done with it." He doesn't speak Austrian.

Posted by: despair at March 30, 2015 01:48 PM (J6suc)

90 Bibi showing off new sub is at Free Beacon main page.

Posted by: Carol at March 30, 2015 01:48 PM (sj3Ax)

91 >>I saw Bibi show off latest sub in the last half hour & don't remember where it was! Neither do the Iranians.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2015 01:48 PM (g1DWB)

92 Sorry about the Emergency Alert System anomaly today.

Now fuck you and get against the wall.

Posted by: FEMA at March 30, 2015 01:49 PM (XzRw1)

93 The American left thinks if Israel would go away, the muzzles would stop killing each other and everyone else they can find." All We Are Say-ing, is Give Peace a Chance! Don't bogart that joint, dude...

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 30, 2015 01:49 PM (KnbYp)

94 And everything would be good, like Bratlllsboro.

Posted by: Longbranch 303 at March 30, 2015 01:49 PM (3g/a8)

95 Jack Straw, It's on FB main page, Bibi showing off new sub.

Posted by: Carol at March 30, 2015 01:50 PM (sj3Ax)

96 This crisis crap is cutting in my golf and brewskis.

Posted by: Barry O at March 30, 2015 01:50 PM (c+vKr)

97 Oh, Good Lord! This is ridiculous. Iran is not going to give up ANYTHING! They are playing for time. They will ignore every single demand or requirement. They will lie, cheat and steal, all the while proclaiming their innocence. My child negotiated better for an extra cookie than these imbeciles. What an absolute disgrace. Now back to read the other comments.

Posted by: jjod at March 30, 2015 01:50 PM (0r7PZ)

98 Dipshit also proclaimed today Cesar Chavez day...who I assume is a bit of pinko

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at March 30, 2015 01:50 PM (th6S/)

99 Now fuck you and get against the wall. Posted by: FEMA" No problem. BTW, let me introduce to Winchester's .30...

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 30, 2015 01:51 PM (KnbYp)

100 re: 21 They didn't want to, it was all they had got. Selling atonal apples and amplified heat And pressed rat's collection of dog legs and feet

Posted by: Ira Weatheral at March 30, 2015 01:52 PM (qry2M)

101 4 looming March 31 deadline. I keep seeing this but no explanation of why it's a deadline? Posted by: DaveA You can't cave like a punched soufflé any old time.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at March 30, 2015 01:52 PM (TIgJq)

102 Obama------>Reek
to Rouhani/Jarrett--------->Ramsay Snow

Posted by: HHS at March 30, 2015 01:53 PM (TLTHv)

103 Iran has realized that Obama is willing to negotiate with them like John Boehner and Mitch McConnell negotiate with Obama.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 30, 2015 01:53 PM (z/Ubi)

104 We should spread a rumor that Iran wants to do business with Indiana. That'll slow Obama down.

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at March 30, 2015 01:53 PM (T1Jm0)

105 98 Dipshit also proclaimed today Cesar Chavez day...who I assume is a bit of pinko Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at March 30, 2015 06:50 PM (th6S/) You mean you don't think Obama would honor an American Patriot?

Posted by: Iblis at March 30, 2015 01:53 PM (9221z)

106 Posted by: Furious George at March 30, 2015 06:46 PM (UlJ3l)

You may be correct.

I tend to look at Obama as representative of the franchise.

He may not be a Muslim per se but he's in the control of them so what's the real difference?

He may be a bumbling fool, high on crack and doped up on weed but that doesn't matter as the ones who are running him, are running the country through him. So it winds up the same thing.

I personally think he himself is stupid, is a drug addict and has been under the control of some group of Islamists who's goal was to at a minimum implant a Muslim controlled Senator in Congress.

They lucked out (to some degree. They had a lot of unknowing help) and wound up with their wildest dream; a US President with no one or no power willing to challenge him. A willing media as guardians and a weak willed and clueless minority party. By the time anyone's willing to admit what happened, it will be too late.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at March 30, 2015 01:53 PM (zRby/)

107 98 Dipshit also proclaimed today Cesar Chavez day...who I assume is a bit of pinko Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at March 30 Isn't every day a commie, Marxist, pinko day with this administration

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at March 30, 2015 01:53 PM (oNvyP)

108 103 Iran has realized that Obama is willing to negotiate with them like John Boehner and Mitch McConnell negotiate with Obama.

They are two worthless fucking turds aren't they?

Posted by: TVoC at March 30, 2015 01:54 PM (XzRw1)

109 ...and we want Lakers tickets, something on the court, no nosebleed, Moustafa wants a pony, Farouk wants to meet Lady Gaga, everybody gets iPhones...

Posted by: Iran at March 30, 2015 01:54 PM (MMC8r)

110 Mexican American community organizer who organized the immigrant farm workers against the farmers. He was behind the grape boycott in the 70's.
Believe there's also a Navy ship named after him.

Posted by: HHS at March 30, 2015 01:56 PM (TLTHv)

111 everybody gets iPhones... Posted by: Iran Act now and I'll throw in gold iWatches at no cost.

Posted by: Queen Barry I at March 30, 2015 01:56 PM (GuwT9)

112 If someone had said on 9/11/2001 that in seven years in US would elect a black muslim president and elevate him to godhood I would have declared them insane. And here we are.

Posted by: despair at March 30, 2015 01:56 PM (J6suc)

113 ValJar recognized this early on. Who is above ValJar on the organizational chart? Posted by: Furious George at March 30, 2015 06:46 PM (UlJ3l) Soros has to be on that list somewhere.

Posted by: LizLem at March 30, 2015 01:57 PM (yRwC8)

114 John Boehner and Mitch McConnell negotiate with Obama. They are two worthless fucking turds aren't they" Nah, there's three wft's in your list there....

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 30, 2015 01:57 PM (KnbYp)

115 @110 Mexican American community organizer who organized the immigrant farm workers against the farmers. He was behind the grape boycott in the 70's. -------------------- And his family is still around, and still causing trouble. Every now and again, the LA Times will run a story on them.

Posted by: junior at March 30, 2015 01:57 PM (UWFpX)

116 >>I keep seeing this but no explanation of why it's a deadline? It's the day they agreed to have a framework, not a deal just a framework, the last time the talks stalled. And every time we agree to continue the talks the Iranians just keep on spinning those centrifuges. Lightbringer.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2015 01:57 PM (g1DWB)

117 I'm getting too pissed off reading this. I'm going to skip listening to a Mark Levin too. My BP is going up. I can feel it.

Posted by: Carol at March 30, 2015 01:57 PM (sj3Ax)

118 #24 ^^^THIS

Posted by: despair at March 30, 2015 01:57 PM (J6suc)

119 "President Obama's rhetorical assault on Benjamin Netanyahu last week was in part the product of pique. But it also set the stage for what could be another crockery-breaking bid by Obama for a foreign policy legacy" Rather than "crockery-breaking", I would move the substitution of the British phrase "throwing the toys out of the pram".

Posted by: torquewrench at March 30, 2015 01:58 PM (noWW6)

120 People in this country need to start placing the blame where it belongs. Not on Obama. On the people who voted for him. Democrats. Democrats are responsible for this disaster. They need to start owning it, in every single damn social gathering where they are encountered. Call the bastards out. "You did this. YOU."

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2015 01:58 PM (h6Mpm)

121 Who is above ValJar on the organizational chart?" Reggie?

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 30, 2015 01:58 PM (KnbYp)

122 Isn't this a little bit like the fat kid negotiating with himself about whether to eat the cake or the pie first? And everything gets a scoop of ice cream. And Cool Whip.

Posted by: Fritz at March 30, 2015 02:00 PM (ty633)

123 Who is above ValJar on the organizational chart?"

Satan?

Posted by: TVoC at March 30, 2015 02:00 PM (XzRw1)

124 "Women for babies, boys for pleasure, goats for ecstasy, and Obama to clean it all up."

Posted by: Stuff Mohammed Said at March 30, 2015 02:00 PM (n/vq+)

125 People in this country need to start placing the blame where it belongs. Not on Obama. On the people who voted for him. Democrats. Democrats are responsible for this disaster. They need to start owning it, in every single damn social gathering where they are encountered. Call the bastards out. "You did this. YOU." Can we use tar and feathers?

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i] at March 30, 2015 02:01 PM (t43dZ)

126 So Obama is in way over his head in negotiations with some half-wit nuts who keep running all over him.

Seems more like he's on the other side.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 30, 2015 02:01 PM (/kI1Q)

127 OT - A random item from a link over at This Ain't Hell mentioned that George Orwell's high school French teacher was apparently some guy named Aldous Huxley. Interesting coincidence. The link also mentions that Orwell was kind enough to think of his old French teacher after '1984' was published, and sent Huxley a complimentary copy. After he finishing the book, Huxley wrote a letter to his old student. It basically summarized as - "The book was very good. Though I still think my dystopia's more likely."

Posted by: junior at March 30, 2015 02:02 PM (UWFpX)

128 "Women for babies, boys for pleasure, goats for ecstasy, and one camel to bind them all.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i] at March 30, 2015 02:02 PM (t43dZ)

129 @8: "Obama essentially is telling Israel to trade American military secrets to China or Russia in exchange for their veto instead."

I'm pale, rested, and ready!

Posted by: Jonathan Pollard at March 30, 2015 02:02 PM (amQXf)

130 We are Doodad Pro.

Posted by: Iran at March 30, 2015 02:02 PM (MMC8r)

131 110 Mexican American community organizer who organized the immigrant farm workers against the farmers. He was behind the grape boycott in the 70's. Believe there's also a Navy ship named after him. Posted by: HHS at March 30, 2015 06:56 PM (TLTHv) He was opposed to illegal immigration. They always seem to want to forget that. It's almost as if this Union organizing goon realized that bringing in a bunch of low wage seekers would hurt the American workers that do those jobs.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 30, 2015 02:02 PM (z/Ubi)

132 Democrats are responsible for this disaster. " "We have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency" ... yeah, about that.

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 30, 2015 02:02 PM (KnbYp)

133 Can we use tar and feathers? Posted by: rickb223 at March 30, 2015 07:01 PM (t43dZ) Waste of feathers.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2015 02:03 PM (h6Mpm)

134 More and more I keep viewing a nuclear Iran as the equivalent of the White Walkers in the GoT world. While the rest of the kingdoms keep dithering over privilege and patriarchy and jazz hands and rape whistled and hands up don't shoot, there are larger forces at work converging to literally wipe us all off the planet. Of course, for the left I'm sure they view the White Walkers as Global Warming or some sort of crap like that.

Posted by: LizLem at March 30, 2015 02:03 PM (yRwC8)

135 >>ValJar recognized this early on. Who is above ValJar on the organizational chart?

VaJar and Obama are 2nd and 3rd generation Commies - Val's mom worked with Obama mento Frank Marshal Davis.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2418

Posted by: HHS at March 30, 2015 02:03 PM (TLTHv)

136 And everything gets a scoop of ice cream. And Cool Whip." But no sprinkles. Sprinkles are for winners.

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 30, 2015 02:03 PM (KnbYp)

137 Off sock!

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at March 30, 2015 02:04 PM (TLTHv)

138 @20: "Obama is an unspeakable disaster for the world."

The world - how do you mean?  We're doing quite well, thank you.
- Vlad Putin
People's Republic of China
Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Militant Islam
Iran
Cuba

Posted by: . at March 30, 2015 02:04 PM (amQXf)

139 131 Yes there is a Caesar Chavez but it is not a combatant ship at least.Chavez was in the Navy I believe,and hated it.

Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2015 02:04 PM (KETbL)

140 The punkass bitch boy asks for a mere reach-around...but not in public!

Posted by: tbd at March 30, 2015 02:04 PM (NlH0k)

141 Posted by: junior at March 30, 2015 07:02 PM (UWFpX) Very cool! Did not know that.

Posted by: LizLem at March 30, 2015 02:04 PM (yRwC8)

142 Can we use tar and feathers? Posted by: rickb223 Waste of feathers. Posted by: filbert Sand?

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i] at March 30, 2015 02:04 PM (t43dZ)

143 Democrats are responsible for this disaster. " "We have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency" ... yeah, about that. Posted by: anon a mouse at March 30, 2015 07:02 PM (KnbYp) We have a little list, oh, we have a little list . . .

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2015 02:04 PM (h6Mpm)

144 We should spread a rumor that Iran wants to do business with Indiana. That'll slow Obama down.

I'm trying to make this into a corn joke but I'm too sober.

Maybe we could sell them Andre Carson.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at March 30, 2015 02:04 PM (/kI1Q)

145  A variation of this is a common refrain here at the hq but I have to say it anyway .
I don't blame the Iranians or even Obama and his people . The leopard can't change his spots , after all .
 I blame the 52 % , they've truly fucked us ,,and by extension the world . Well , they got what they want , hope they choke on it .

Posted by: awkward davies at March 30, 2015 02:06 PM (Z+Mqb)

146 We have a little list, oh, we have a little list . . ." er, Ok, KoKo...

Posted by: anon a mouse at March 30, 2015 02:07 PM (KnbYp)

147
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/jewvote.html

So -- how'd that work out for you guys?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 30, 2015 02:07 PM (kdS6q)

148 120 Democrats are responsible for this disaster. They need to start owning it, in every single damn social gathering where they are encountered. Call the bastards out. "You did this. YOU." Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2015 06:58 PM (h6Mpm) "You ever wonder how Hitler came to power? Look in the fucking mirror."

Posted by: rickl at March 30, 2015 02:07 PM (sdi6R)

149 @121 - Allah.

Posted by: JEM at March 30, 2015 02:08 PM (o+SC1)

150 There's the March 31st deadline because Bammy knows an agreement would be reached on April 1st, with expected results. fool

Posted by: seamrog at March 30, 2015 02:08 PM (sd12/)

151 120 People in this country need to start placing the blame where it belongs. Not on Obama. On the people who voted for him. Democrats. Democrats are responsible for this disaster. They need to start owning it, in every single damn social gathering where they are encountered. Call the bastards out. "You did this. YOU." Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2015 06:58 PM (h6Mpm) Problem is, the Democrats don't see that anything is wrong. They all have their heads so far up their own asses that they genuinely believe that everything the Emperor does is what's best for us, and that any criticism of him that is not about how he is too moderate and not progressive enough is nothing but racism.

Posted by: Mandy P., lurking lurker who lurks at March 30, 2015 02:09 PM (KkVB6)

152 I blame the 52 % , they've truly fucked us ,,and by extension the world . Well , they got what they want , hope they choke on it . Posted by: awkward davies at March 30, 2015 07:06 PM (Z+Mqb) That's why they need to be made to own it, on every possible occasion. This is their shithole, they made it. We didn't want to jump into the shithole. We told them it would be a shithole. They thought it would be milk chocolate and crunchy almond nougat. It's not our fault we're rolling around in the shithole now. It's their fault. Their fault. Their fault.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2015 02:09 PM (h6Mpm)

153 The programmed response is "What did we do to bring this on ourselves?!?" --- If Iran nukes Israel, the SJW crowd will pass out sweets. If the US is nuked, they'll blame Bush. They'll never blame Obama for anything. He is their god.

Posted by: despair at March 30, 2015 02:09 PM (J6suc)

154 >>I blame the 52 % , they've truly fucked us ,,and by extension the world . Well , they got what they want , hope they choke on it .

I think you can blame them for the 2008 election, but the 2012 was likely won via fraud and behind the scenes tactics such as IRS harassment and Holder fighting Voter ID laws, etc.. So I can't believe 52% actually voted for him in 2012.
However, it's hard to take someone like Alan Dershowitz whining about Obama after admittedly voting for him twice. There are a lot of elites, in the media, entertainment, business and academic worlds who pushed for Obama HARD, twice, and I do blame them.

Posted by: Lizzy[/i] at March 30, 2015 02:10 PM (TLTHv)

155

It's like puttinf a for sale add in the paper with price $XYZ, OR BEST OFFER...

 

Idiots.

 

Fucktards.

 

Traitors.

Posted by: OC CELTIC-AMERICAN at March 30, 2015 02:10 PM (SFpiC)

156 Have anyone punted out to the Present that Eyerainyuns be caulk-asians?  You no, cracka-ass crackas?  That might chain his lego sheasian stratego.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at March 30, 2015 02:11 PM (amQXf)

157 I told you people Obama was right, even though my face looks like a chocolate chip cookie.

Posted by: Harry Reid at March 30, 2015 02:11 PM (qyGu1)

158 So imagine these talks go to shit or worse, Obama makes a deal and gives away everything. Israel will attack, it's a matter of survival for them. We could be in a situation where the US is condemning Israel while Arab countries are praising her. Truly, the age of Obama is bizarre.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2015 02:11 PM (g1DWB)

159 According to the Drudgereport, Kerry was asked if there would be a deal tomorrow and he replied " "Inshallah" -- or "If Allah wills it."

Posted by: Burke at March 30, 2015 02:12 PM (ugH4u)

160 We could be in a situation where the US is condemning Israel while Arab countries are praising her. Truly, the age of Obama is bizarre. Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2015 07:11 PM (g1DWB) I've already seen talk of a US-sponsored anti-Israel resolution in the UN Security Council. So yeah. What you suggest is in the process of happening, I think

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2015 02:12 PM (h6Mpm)

161 We could be in a situation where the US is condemning Israel while Arab countries are praising her. I think the plan is to make Israel do what needs to be done and then get the corrupt UN to declare them an outlaw nation and move against them.

Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at March 30, 2015 02:13 PM (MMC8r)

162 >>> According to the Drudgereport, Kerry was asked if there would be a deal tomorrow and he replied " "Inshallah" -- or "If Allah wills it." It's trolls all the way down. And watch, this treaty WILL be signed on April 1. Thank goodness God has a sense of humor, I am fast running out.

Posted by: LizLem at March 30, 2015 02:13 PM (yRwC8)

163 it is not too late to fix this; but you have to remind those that protect this country exactly what their duties are.

To say, "oh well, the politicians have gummed up the rule of law so bad so we can't do anything lawfully", is to complete ignore the logical extensions of the statement itself.

I guess we COULD wait for the country to slide off the cliff, but I need a civilization to continue producing medicine if I want to keep breathing.

I am not publicly saying that anyone does anything illegal, but I am saying that a buzz in the ear of the right folks should be getting louder day by day.

Posted by: Grad School Fool at March 30, 2015 02:14 PM (A9KzJ)

164 OT TCM has that garbage The China Syndrome on tonight.One of the most destructive movies in history.

Posted by: steevy at March 30, 2015 02:14 PM (KETbL)

165 Cesar Day? Great! I love his salads...

Posted by: LIQ-LIV at March 30, 2015 02:14 PM (SFpiC)

166 @83: Who is above ValJar on the organizational chart?

Yo!

Posted by: The 3 Ms: Mohammed, Marx, & Mao at March 30, 2015 02:15 PM (amQXf)

167 I agree filbert but as others have said , the dems , progressives , livs , commies , whatever they call themselves these days , don't see a problem , hell , they like swimming in the septic tank .
Cretinous assholes .

Posted by: awkward davies at March 30, 2015 02:15 PM (Z+Mqb)

168 This is their shithole, they made it. We didn't want to jump into the shithole. We told them it would be a shithole. They thought it would be milk chocolate and crunchy almond nougat. It's not our fault we're rolling around in the shithole now. It's their fault. Posted by: filbert The shitnado is coming Bo-Bandy. The shitnado is coming and it's gonna take us all to Shithalla.

Posted by: Lahey at March 30, 2015 02:15 PM (GuwT9)

169 Obama finally got one right. Praise Allah.

Posted by: Grover Norquist at March 30, 2015 02:15 PM (XzRw1)

170 Lamp post wind chimes.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 30, 2015 02:17 PM (FMbng)

171 I blame the 52 % , they've truly fucked us ,,and by extension the world . Well , they got what they want , hope they choke on it . Posted by: awkward davies at March 30, 2015 07:06 PM (Z+Mqb) About 150 Million voters are registered, of the 205 or so Million who are eligible to vote. Obama received just under 66 million votes... so his mandate only came from about 32% of the electorate... not 52%. I blame the about 40% of eligible voters, who did not vote..

Posted by: BB Wolf at March 30, 2015 02:18 PM (qh617)

172 >>It's trolls all the way down. And watch, this treaty WILL be signed on April 1. There's nothing to even sign. Well not a treaty anyway. They are just agreeing on a framework for deal that won't be done until June. This is all just stalling and getting concessions for the Iranians. Time is what they care about and Obama is giving them that.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2015 02:18 PM (g1DWB)

173 Iran's getting a sweet deal, but what about ISIS? Shouldn't they get something, too? (Or is Secretary Kerry so busy negotiating Poland into becoming East Kaliningrad that it slipped his mind?)

Posted by: FireHorse at March 30, 2015 02:19 PM (ldFt4)

174 "And watch, this treaty WILL be signed on April 1." A "treaty" has to be ratified by the Senate before taking effect. This is instead described as an "international agreement". A bit of subterfuge cooked up by Obama and Kerry to conceal the reality that Senate ratification is a nonstarter.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 30, 2015 02:19 PM (noWW6)

175
One of our future short term goals is to institute Sharia Law in the more undeveloped parts of America such as Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and West Virginia, where the majority of the dumb ass shit kickers live and breed.

Posted by: Chuck Schumer, D-NY at March 30, 2015 02:19 PM (P330y)

176 I blame the about 40% of eligible voters, who did not vote.. Posted by: BB Wolf at March 30, 2015 07:18 PM (qh617) Good thought, but no. Stay on target. The ones who DID vote for the bastard are the real assholes here.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2015 02:20 PM (h6Mpm)

177 I blame Bushjoos, 'cause I'm a fucktard, and proud... ooh, look, Celebrity Sphincter Bleaching is on!

Posted by: LIQ-LIV at March 30, 2015 02:20 PM (SFpiC)

178 @125: "Can we use tar and feathers?"

No, that would be icky/sinking to their level.  The most we can do is tut-tut, preen, moralize, moralize, and cite to the Founding Fathers without really grasping *how* and *why* they are the Founding Fathers.

Posted by: TheThe American Right at March 30, 2015 02:20 PM (amQXf)

179
This is instead described as an "international agreement".

A bit of subterfuge cooked up by Obama and Kerry to conceal the reality that Senate ratification is a nonstarter.

Posted by: torquewrench


Not even that if it's not going to be written down.

It's going to be a weekend long dog-and-pony show starting this or next Friday, President Historic in front of the adoring press gaggle announcing his legacy boner.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at March 30, 2015 02:21 PM (JBzwC)

180
Iran's getting a sweet deal, but what about ISIS? Shouldn't they get something, too?
Posted by: FireHorse



They get a second round draft pick.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 30, 2015 02:22 PM (kdS6q)

181 So for those who are suggesting that we say to the Democrats around us that this is all their fault, I can tell you with some considerable authority that they will be completely baffled by what "this" is supposed to be. Out here in Commiefornia, among the local liberals, this deal isn't even on their radar screens. Indiana trumps Iran. Strange but true.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 30, 2015 02:23 PM (noWW6)

182 ISIS gets Sloppy Seconds!

Posted by: LIQ-LIV at March 30, 2015 02:23 PM (SFpiC)

183 The best quote of all about our situation is this one: "The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president." I only hope it doesn't turn out to be America's epitaph.

Posted by: rickl at March 30, 2015 02:23 PM (sdi6R)

184 I think you can blame them for the 2008 election, but the 2012 was likely won via fraud and behind the scenes tactics such as IRS harassment and Holder fighting Voter ID laws, etc.. --- Actions have consequences. They opened Pandora's Box, and are responsible for all the consequences that follow.

Posted by: despair at March 30, 2015 02:23 PM (J6suc)

185 Oh, there's a "Harry Reid Got Beat Up By A Rubber Band" nood up, too, by the way.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2015 02:23 PM (h6Mpm)

186 It's going to be a weekend long dog-and-pony show starting this or next Friday, President Historic in front of the adoring press gaggle announcing his legacy boner. 2 to 1 the muzzies complete their bomb before the deal is done.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i] at March 30, 2015 02:24 PM (t43dZ)

187 At what point is the risk of the banhammer worth it? *types* *deletes* Not yet. *grinds neglected back teeth to a fine, fetid paste*

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at March 30, 2015 02:24 PM (XV4jC)

188 @152: "It's not our fault we're rolling around in the shithole now. It's their fault."

It's not like they really hid their agenda from anyone willing to listen.  Hell, they're still telegraphing all of their punches - people just prefer not to notice, because noticing is going to force a choice between action and inaction.

The Left may be doing it, but the Right has been more than happy to let them.  It may talk a decent game, but when push comes to shove, only one side actually has the courage of its convictions - and it ain't the Right.

Posted by: TheThe American Right at March 30, 2015 02:24 PM (amQXf)

189 O lamented to poor Prince Charlie that he would never be royalty. We fought against having rule by monarchy but are accepting a dictatorship.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 30, 2015 02:26 PM (lZOfi)

190 2 to 1 the muzzies complete their bomb before the deal is done.

Posted by: rickb223


I'd put it at much greater odds only because Israel has known for a long time that they alone are responsible for their security.

Don't think for a second that stuxnet was their only method of interrupting things.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at March 30, 2015 02:27 PM (JBzwC)

191 Backseat Becky? I have images in my mind of Eddie Murphy on SNL around prom night, telling dad's that their sensitive little princess was in the backseat of some boy's car with her knees pinned behind her ears like Bugs-fucking Bunny. Wait...maybe Backseat Becky is us...

Posted by: keninnorcal at March 30, 2015 02:34 PM (On0/h)

192 The Democrats see absolutely nothing wrong with Obama's presidency - they say unemployment down, stock market up and millions now have healthcare - they won't see a problem until NYC glows in the dark!

Posted by: just a lurkerette ~ and a ginger! at March 30, 2015 02:35 PM (S1KDS)

193 @172: "I blame the about 40% of eligible voters, who did not vote.."

Sure, the people who realized that both parties' candidates were completely and utterly full of shit - yeah, they're the ones to blame.  If you participate in the process, you're part of the problem - you're consenting to the government we have.  Your vote, regardless which candidate you choose, empowers the system.  Put it another way - if your house collapses because it was shoddily built, do you go out and sue every contractor who didn't build it?

"Well, Romney/McCain was bad, but Obama was worse, so I voted for the lesser of two evils," you may say.  Fair enough, but you still knowingly cast a vote for evil.  If a vote is to mean anything, it cannot simply be given.  It must be earned.  Too many vote reflexively - voting for X, who sucks, just because Y sucks worse, because they believe that they have to vote.  They don't.

In an ideal world, Obama should have won in 2008 with 3 votes: his, Michelle's, and McCain's (you know he did), with the rest of the country collectively saying: "We're not going to do anything to put either of these submoronic assholes anywhere near the White House".  Ok, give him the black vote, too (as an aspirational candidate), but the rest of the country should have been smart enough to know that if those two were the best we could do, the position should not have been filled.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at March 30, 2015 02:36 PM (amQXf)

194 "they won't see a problem until NYC glows in the dark!" Thinking here about the absolutely overwhelming percentages by which New York City voters supported Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 30, 2015 02:37 PM (noWW6)

195
If Israel is struck by an atomic weapon, both Obama and Kerry and others will be in at risk because Mossad never forgets, and it has a decades long ability to reach out and touch someone. 

Adolph Eichmann hid in Argentina until Mossad located him and returned him to Israel for trial.  He was convicted of war crimes and hung by the neck until dead.  A fair and just ending for Eichmann. 

Posted by: Counter Intelligence Officer at March 30, 2015 02:39 PM (P330y)

196 195 - it's ironic that if any major city is nuked it will be a Democratic strong hold - LA, NYC, DC, Chicago et. al.

Posted by: just a lurkerette ~ and a ginger! at March 30, 2015 02:40 PM (S1KDS)

197 Fa Cube Itches @ 194: "... the rest of the country should have been smart enough to know that if those two [Obama and McCain] were the best we could do, the position should not have been filled." How long did McCain spend in 2000 harping about Asians using a certain racially insensitive term, and then explaining his word choice by using the same word, over and over and over? Was there no one with sufficient influence within the Republican Party to keep him off the primary ballots in 2008?

Posted by: FireHorse at March 30, 2015 02:45 PM (ldFt4)

198 the repukes dont care if they win, they just want the squishy seconds of being the "loyal opposition"

Posted by: Grad School Fool at March 30, 2015 02:47 PM (A9KzJ)

199 Was there no one with sufficient influence within the Republican Party to keep him off the primary ballots in 2008? Posted by: FireHorse at March 30, 2015 07:45 PM (ldFt4) This isn't about the Republicans. It's about Democrats. ALL Democrats. Like I said in the last thread. Call them out. The ones you know in your own social circle (assuming there are any who will admit it). Call 'em out. It's way past time that the social pressure of disapproval gets pushed their way for a while. Push.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2015 02:50 PM (h6Mpm)

200 You know, my whitey-white leftist American "Jewish" brothers told my "dumb" politically conservative Jewish a$$ that, if I voted for Republicans in 2008 and 2012, a Jew-hating POTUS would get elected, and, by G_d, they were RIGHT!

Posted by: Mickey Shwarma at March 30, 2015 02:51 PM (2mJMN)

201 Like I said in the last thread. Ah. Er. This thread. Keep hopping back and forth between this one and the Rubber Band one.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2015 02:51 PM (h6Mpm)

202 194 Ok, give him the black vote, too (as an aspirational candidate), but the rest of the country should have been smart enough to know that if those two were the best we could do, the position should not have been filled. Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at March 30, 2015 07:36 PM (amQXf)/i] I don't blame blacks for voting for him. He was the first black candidate of a major party, so of course they were excited about it. But even if every black voter in the country voted for him, that would have not been enough for him to win. It was all of the white guilt-ridden idiots who were responsible for that. As for me, I happily and enthusiastically voted for Palin in '08, and I would do it again. She was easily the most qualified of the four P/VP candidates, and she clearly loved America.

Posted by: rickl at March 30, 2015 03:06 PM (sdi6R)

Posted by: rickl at March 30, 2015 03:06 PM (sdi6R)

204 I'm having a real problem closing that italic tag today. Luckily for me this is a nearly dead thread.

Posted by: rickl at March 30, 2015 03:07 PM (sdi6R)

205 205 Come to me, my thrall rickl.

Posted by: Barrel at March 30, 2015 03:22 PM (u82oZ)

206 March 31 because golf

Posted by: Feh at March 30, 2015 03:23 PM (g/zj9)

207 desocking

Posted by: Muldoon, a solid man at March 30, 2015 03:29 PM (NeFrd)

208

Teh SCOAMT is setting up for the UN-sanctioned US omega-nuking of Israel.

 

And if he doesn't get the UN to authorize it, he'll do it anyway, out of general Islamokazi principles.

Posted by: steveegg at March 30, 2015 05:43 PM (cL79m)

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Meanwhile, Secratary of State John Kerry, when asked about the prospects of reaching a deal during a stop in a Swiss chocolate shop, responded "inshallah," which is Arabic for "God willing."


Sigh... Do you think anyone has told him that Iranians speak Farsi?

Posted by: Zach at March 30, 2015 06:32 PM (Tr+Z0)

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