March 30, 2016

Not Only Is Obama Seeking to "Annex the Suburbs" As Part of His Plan to Force Suburbs to Erect High-Density Public Housing, but HUD Is Seeking a Court Order to Muzzle Critics of the Plan
— Ace

Apparently having a "tone" the Administration doesn't like when they arrogate unheard-of powers upon themselves is a legal basis for a court order to compel someone to parrot the Administration line.

Incidentally, the critic here is in Chappaqua. He tried to get Hillary Rodham to say if her own hometown (and her server's hometown) had discriminatory policies, as Obama's goons allege.

She refuses to say, and the media refuses to ask her.

Posted by: Ace at 01:47 PM | Comments (302)
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1 Atrocity stompage.

Posted by: Grump928(C) notes that we are so fucking boned at March 30, 2016 01:48 PM (rwI+c)

2 Dos?

Posted by: Grump928(C) notes that we are so fucking boned at March 30, 2016 01:49 PM (rwI+c)

3 Trifecta?

Posted by: Grump928(C) notes that we are so fucking boned at March 30, 2016 01:49 PM (rwI+c)

4 How about 'get stuffed', HUD? Does that work for you?

Posted by: Toastrider at March 30, 2016 01:49 PM (nklyc)

5 I'll get The Others.

Posted by: Grump928(C) notes that we are so fucking boned at March 30, 2016 01:50 PM (rwI+c)

6 Get used to it. We are going to be Soviet America.... the key is does it take 25years to get there or 25 months. NO ONE will stop them.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 01:50 PM (g8Hfr)

7 So what you're saying is the whole country just got Kelo'ed.

Posted by: Qoheleth at March 30, 2016 01:51 PM (iIzG7)

8 His Plan to Force Suburbs to Erect High-Density Public Housing "Refugee" housing?

Posted by: t-bird at March 30, 2016 01:52 PM (ANVXm)

9 7 Posted by: Qoheleth at March 30, 2016 06:51 PM (iIzG7) The problem is no one will blame the Democrats. HUD just elected itself an unelected Zoning board... and the media will not allow it to be attacked.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 01:52 PM (g8Hfr)

10 You see, this kind of crap is what the 'So what, it's the Uniparty, let it burn' types forget all about.

Any Democratic administration is going to be chock-ful of these vengeful fairness Nazis just aching to track down the productive and successful people in this country, and give them the severe punishment deserved for their crimes.

Republican ones, their many faults aside, not so much.

But, yeah, show the gang-bangers Section-Eighted into next door your 'SMOD 2016' yard sign.

That'll show 'em!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 30, 2016 01:52 PM (XdbLA)

11 See? The key to wrecking a country is to do it quietly and with calm diction instead of being a blowhard.

Posted by: TB at March 30, 2016 01:52 PM (UXEYz)

12 8 Posted by: t-bird at March 30, 2016 06:52 PM (ANVXm) Yes... The good news is that as fedzilla grabs more and more power the stakes of their inherent structural fuckups will reduce the desirability of this place.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 01:53 PM (g8Hfr)

13 Fundamentally Transformed.


Old and busted: "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism!!"

New hotness: "Check your tone, serf, or were gonna sic the full force of the federal government on your ass, starting with the IRS!"

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at March 30, 2016 01:53 PM (NOIQH)

14 the key is does it take 25years to get there or 25 months. I was thinking 70 or 700 to get out.

Posted by: t-bird at March 30, 2016 01:53 PM (mxCgt)

15 Forget SMOD 2016. I'm starting to think in terms of 7.62mm 2016. Take that as you will.

Posted by: Toastrider at March 30, 2016 01:54 PM (nklyc)

16 Sort of related: Is this what happened to Los Angeles? How did Los Angles become so enormous?

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 01:54 PM (Lw+oL)

17 Annex the suburbs? Well I was shopping in walmart and noticed someone who looked 'middle eastern' to me and I was giving him the stink eye, and he noticed. Then I find out we have Syrian Refugees in the local Section 8 housing neighborhood.

Posted by: Welcher Cleaveland at March 30, 2016 01:54 PM (kXWUw)

18 Muzzle critics? What, like with a cloth or something?

Posted by: Hillary! at March 30, 2016 01:54 PM (K3F/8)

19 10 Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 30, 2016 06:52 PM (XdbLA) Absolutely right. Come on boys grab your shield and swords! THE GOP WILL SAVE US....by you know pencil whipping every Obama judicial nominee who will kick up the precedents to a democrat packed court. There is no one who will fight, it is over. Your efforts are better saved for what comes next.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 01:55 PM (g8Hfr)

20 Forced busing, on a more permanent manner!

Posted by: Tyler Mason at March 30, 2016 01:55 PM (t/2s7)

21 The chances of high density public housing anywhere near where obama's fat ass lands, is zero to none.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 30, 2016 01:55 PM (iQIUe)

22 Whooooosh.


Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 30, 2016 01:55 PM (XdbLA)

23 >>"Refugee" housing?

Yes, and immigrants.
DHS has transported unaccompanied minors to every state. And you can bet that once settled, they started the process for getting their parents flown in to join them (at US taxpayer expense, 'natch).

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at March 30, 2016 01:55 PM (NOIQH)

24 Opposition to justice - the destruction of America demands no less - is injustice, to these vicious bastards. So, naturally, the stack-a-prole plans of HUD to ethnically cleanse the 'burbs must be opposed by force of law.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at March 30, 2016 01:56 PM (lutOX)

25 Any government official involved in the conspiracy to deprive American citizens of their speech rights under color of law should be prosecuted, convicted, and serve hard time. They should be sued for civil damages as well.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 01:56 PM (s5o+q)

26 14 Posted by: t-bird at March 30, 2016 06:53 PM (mxCgt) when I first came back from my 4 month or so hiatus I pointed out we are going full bore $ociali$t at a minimum.... Barky is laying the groundwork to go commie. Ivan took 72 years to shed the yoke... we never will as a whole.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 01:56 PM (g8Hfr)

27 Indiana Jones and the Expansion of the 'Inner City' Domain There is no escape from Totalitarianism. Coming to a theater near you soon.

Posted by: intellectual nudity at March 30, 2016 01:56 PM (Lw+oL)

28 Not first.

Posted by: Weasel at March 30, 2016 01:57 PM (e3bId)

29 so ... agenda 21 is not all conspiracy theory-like?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 30, 2016 01:57 PM (AkOaV)

30 Grump - you didn't break into my book to inform me of a nood, Actually I've been hearing this for at least a year on talk radio.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 01:57 PM (fizMZ)

31

So Hillary! is a NIMBY? Shocked to hear it.

Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 01:57 PM (HgMAr)

32 Live, laugh, love... in Belize! Your smart friends are aready here!

Posted by: Belize! at March 30, 2016 01:57 PM (FXW24)

33 Behold the awesome power of this fully operational lame duck president. Fvck this fvcking guy. Not to mention all of his horrorshow regulation goons.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at March 30, 2016 01:57 PM (RwwCT)

34 I'm all for this policy only if it happens in deep blue areas. With gates and guards. Schadenfruede. You know it will only happen in middle class areas. Not Malibu, Beverly glen areas.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 30, 2016 01:57 PM (egOGm)

35 Hmmmmm When the land of all things great and perfect....Chicago... broke up the projects and put them in the near suburbs, well we have what we have today of course

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 30, 2016 01:58 PM (FOThK)

36 We bring the inner city to you!

Posted by: Tyler Mason at March 30, 2016 01:58 PM (t/2s7)

37 There goes the neighborhood.

Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 01:58 PM (HgMAr)

38 34 Posted by: CaliGirl at March 30, 2016 06:57 PM (egOGm) Comrade...the person bitching is in Chappaqua not because this is happening but because we in the red need punished. This is not good.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 01:58 PM (g8Hfr)

39 While I think Zero and his various creatures seeded throughout all levels of government are truly capable of nearly anything, Stanley Kurtz is just about the only guy even near a soapbox or megaphone who is talking about this at all. He's been talking about it for years. And while his articles are always dire, intelligent, and frightening, nothing seems to have come of any of it. Where else can we get some insight on this mess? And how do we get people to actually, you know, sound the alarm on it?

Posted by: Il Padrino at March 30, 2016 01:58 PM (TasoZ)

40 Fuck.

Posted by: Mister Rogers at March 30, 2016 01:59 PM (rwI+c)

41 "But, yeah, show the gang-bangers Section-Eighted into next door your 'SMOD 2016' yard sign.

That'll show 'em!"

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Say, this forced housing in the suburbs thing sounds pretty solid to us! Where do we sign off on it?

Posted by: Typical Republican Politicians at March 30, 2016 01:59 PM (7Kbxu)

42 I'll get The Others.

Noooo!

Posted by: Nicole Kidman at March 30, 2016 01:59 PM (HgucG)

43

So they are trying to force all the welfare cases out of cities into the suburbs. Guess they need room in the cities for more welfare cases.

Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 02:00 PM (HgMAr)

44 I'm a Republican and I need cheap labor. If this helps me, I'm all for it.

Posted by: Creepy-ass Wisconisn Dairy Farmer at March 30, 2016 02:00 PM (Lw+oL)

45 i way overstated my claim, myself. Obviously, you wouldn't actually be eligible for a murder sentence that was committed when the murder in question was deemed legal. So it was dumb of me to claim that. Still, I think people really think this way. And I also think that many women are uncomfortable with their previous abortions being branded, officially if not legally operatively, "murders."

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 02:00 PM (dciA+)

46 The whole point is to move people into red areas, and no one in powered expects a rich blue area to open up to a urban public housing.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 02:00 PM (fizMZ)

47 >>You know it will only happen in middle class areas. Not Malibu, Beverly glen areas.

They have that handy, dandy voter db used for both campaigns. I have no doubt they'll be targeting upscale GOP-voting neighborhoods first. Just like what they did to GM car dealerships - closing the ones owned by conservatives/Republican supporting ones.

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at March 30, 2016 02:00 PM (NOIQH)

48 whoops wrong thread.

Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 02:00 PM (dciA+)

49

Live, laugh, love... in Belize! Your smart friends are aready here!

Posted by: Belize! at March 30, 2016 06:57 PM (FXW24)

..................

 

Belize? pretty soon we're all going to be looking at El Salvador.

Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 02:01 PM (HgMAr)

50 39 Posted by: Il Padrino at March 30, 2016 06:58 PM (TasoZ) You aware Barky was involved in setting up the fuse for the 2008 Housing Implosion? It ain't loud, and it ain't sudden it is gradual and uses courts to establish precedent. Bark is hot for Suburban money.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:01 PM (g8Hfr)

51 BFD.  Most of these places are liberal strongholds.  Let them eat their cake.

Posted by: SFGoth at March 30, 2016 02:02 PM (dZ756)

52 Nimrods.

Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 02:02 PM (HgMAr)

53 >>So they are trying to force all the welfare cases out of cities into the suburbs. Guess they need room in the cities for more welfare cases.

They want it so that no one can be safe, comfortable. Oh, you think you can flee to the suburbs and not care about inner-city problems? Ha! Bringing it to you - you will be forced to deal with this.

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at March 30, 2016 02:02 PM (NOIQH)

54 What I don't understand is why export solid democrat voters into this county? We already vote democrat 2 to 1. How much more of a vote margin do you need? Right now a lot of those democrat votes are going to Trump but I don't think it will be enough, and if it is anybody but Trump v Hillary, they will vote democrat.

Posted by: Welcher Cleaveland at March 30, 2016 02:03 PM (kXWUw)

55 Animal bridge. http://tinyurl.com/hat4dem

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 30, 2016 02:03 PM (Nwg0u)

56 I see this being tied up in courts for decades as small suburban communities sue the shit out Hud.  And after Obama finally gets the hell out Dodge the next President will drop it like a hot potato.


And BTW I said this way back last year when Obama first proposed this farce.  The NAACP has actually being doing this for years except that were not moving in and building Fidlers Green in a high priced neighborhood. They would simply use their "taxfree" funds to buy a house in one of these neighborhoods and rent it to a black family.


And no Hud does not have the authority to undercut local zoning laws which the courts have upheld for decades.  No organization in the federal government has this authority.  But as always, he can do anything he wants because there is no opposition party.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at March 30, 2016 02:03 PM (vvmPQ)

57 48 whoops wrong thread. Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 07:00 PM (dciA+) ........... I wondered where you were going with that Ace? It didn`t seem to fit in.

Posted by: Tyler Mason at March 30, 2016 02:03 PM (t/2s7)

58 Sven, Stanley Kurtz has been warning us about this policy for a while. My comment up thread was tongue in cheek. You just know the fancy areas won't have any low income housing projects in their areas.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 30, 2016 02:03 PM (egOGm)

59 48 whoops wrong thread Posted by: ace at March 30, 2016 07:00 PM (dciA+) THREADWINNER!!!!11!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 30, 2016 02:03 PM (FOThK)

60 51 Posted by: SFGoth at March 30, 2016 07:02 PM (dZ756) It's ran by Donks for Donks... this is how they will cancel out our political representation. They ain't going after San Fran comrade...those are GOOD folks. They are going after Englewood Ohio

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:03 PM (g8Hfr)

61 Step Two: Internal passports. You'll need the permission of the state to move once the state has turned your neighborhood into a crime-ridden shithole.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 30, 2016 02:04 PM (8ZskC)

62 "But, yeah, show the gang-bangers Section-Eighted into next door your 'SMOD 2016' yard sign. That'll show 'em!" Would Kasich try to stop this?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 30, 2016 02:04 PM (FkBIv)

63 58 Posted by: CaliGirl at March 30, 2016 07:03 PM (egOGm) I was screaming about his plans on this matter back in 2008... sorry it is one I don't have a lot of humor for.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:04 PM (g8Hfr)

64 49 Live, laugh, love... in Belize! Your smart friends are aready here! Posted by: Belize! at March 30, 2016 06:57 PM (FXW24) .................. Belize? pretty soon we're all going to be looking at El Salvador. Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 07:01 PM (HgMAr) *** Heh. Why go to El Salvador when El Salvador's coming to you?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at March 30, 2016 02:05 PM (lutOX)

65 This pepper spray woman - she's not a fkn teen, she's 27 years old. The old man did not grope her. You can see exactly what happened. She got into his face and she him. Someone behind him sprayed her. Yet because of the TDS, it's been reported as he groped her, not even allegedly groped her, that she was trying to get him off her, that she was 15, that she was a teen. I'm so sick of this shit.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 30, 2016 02:05 PM (iQIUe)

66 I'm not a huge fan of my boss Rob Astorino, but he's been solid on this HUD bullshit from day 1.

And I'm actually not totally against the HUD diversity nonsense, but only if it were applied equally. For instance, Mt. Vernon needs more rich white people just as badly a Chappaqua needs poor black people. HUD should just give some crackhead Hillary's mansion then relocate her fat ass to the projects. She'll be begging for jail time.

Posted by: mugiwara at March 30, 2016 02:05 PM (ect26)

67 62. Would Kasich try to stop this No, he'd be too busy delivering their mail

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 30, 2016 02:06 PM (FOThK)

68 She hit him in the face....

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 30, 2016 02:06 PM (iQIUe)

69 "They want it so that no one can be safe, comfortable. Oh, you think you can flee to the suburbs and not care about inner-city problems? Ha! Bringing it to you - you will be forced to deal with this."
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Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.

Posted by: Michelle in DC at March 30, 2016 02:06 PM (7Kbxu)

70 13 Fundamentally Transformed.


Old and busted: "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism!!"

New hotness: "Check your tone, serf, or were gonna sic the full force of the federal government on your ass, starting with the IRS!"

Posted by: Lizzy at March 30, 2016 06:53 PM (NOIQH)


Future result:  Arson

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 30, 2016 02:06 PM (43OZ6)

71 66 Posted by: mugiwara at March 30, 2016 07:05 PM (ect26) Housing is an individual not a collective "liberty." You don't get it the Feds want to control our lives down to how we fold the one roll of toilet paper they'd allow us per week for our once a day flush. We are being ruled by people unfit to be court jesters.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:07 PM (g8Hfr)

72 Well if you are going to gentrify cities and make them safe for the hipsters, you are going to have to put the dangerous people somewhere.

Posted by: obnoxious ahole at March 30, 2016 02:07 PM (MpvuV)

73 HUD should just give some crackhead Hillary's mansion then relocate her fat ass to the projects. She'll be begging for jail time. Hey, we're movin' on up, Weezy!

Posted by: George Jefferson Clinton at March 30, 2016 02:07 PM (8ZskC)

74 It drops the crime and murder rates of the big blue disaster cities, too.

Just think what Chicago would look like statistics-wise if the projects hadn't been demolished and the denizens thereof Section-Eighted out to the suburbs.

Where crime amazingly rose in step with the Section 8 influx; but now it's not Rahm Emanuel's problem, so OK!

It's partly a way to cover up failure, and partly a vote-buying scheme.

And, also, a floor wax!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 30, 2016 02:07 PM (XdbLA)

75 Uh for the most part this will only affect Liberal strongholds, and I for one am seriously OK with this.  There aren't many large affluent Conservative enclaves for HUD to dump this sort of thing into,  we tend to disperse. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 30, 2016 02:07 PM (iONHu)

76 67 Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 30, 2016 07:06 PM (FOThK) Your main gal will not be so vocal about this as Bark BUT I assure you she will use it as a weapon to attack the wealthiest GOP neighborhoods in Red States.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:08 PM (g8Hfr)

77 Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 07:04 PM (g8Hfr) Sven, No problem. I don't want this policy either and it scares the hell out of me. I should have been more clear I was being sarcastic.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 30, 2016 02:08 PM (egOGm)

78 >>sven10077 Yeah, I know how bad Obama's been for the suburbs, which is nothing compared to how bad he'd *like* to be -- the progs hate anything that keeps us from being channeled into hive cities where they can control every aspect of our lives. (Seriously, talk to any big city dweller and you immediately understand why they all vote Democrat -- they've been conditioned to be utterly dependent on government services. Hell, I'm halfway there myself just because I have the bad luck to live in NYC.) My problem is *no one is doing anything about it*, and I don't even know how to raise the issue without people looking at me like I'm a total crank.

Posted by: Il Padrino at March 30, 2016 02:08 PM (TasoZ)

79 So many towns are now trash because the section 8 housing and gangs were relocated out of chicago and into other areas of Illinois. I grew up in Chicago. The area I use to run around in and where my friends lived is now a hell hole. It was a nice midwestern area - old big houses, lots of trees, good schools. Now you cant even walk in the area without getting shot.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 30, 2016 02:09 PM (iQIUe)

80 75 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 30, 2016 07:07 PM (iONHu) Cincy was solid red in my youth...it is at best Purple now. Any city of 30,000 people that swings GOP is a higher priority target than Haight-Assbury...bank on it.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:09 PM (g8Hfr)

81 Obama Seeking to "Annex the Suburbs" As Part of His Plan to Force Suburbs to Erect High-Density Public Housing


To be fair, Obama does know a lot about dense packing.

Posted by: pep at March 30, 2016 02:09 PM (LAe3v)

82 Uh for the most part this will only affect Liberal strongholds, and I for one am seriously OK with this. There aren't many large affluent Conservative enclaves for HUD to dump this sort of thing into, we tend to disperse. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 30, 2016 07:07 PM (iONHu) It is already happening right here in Houston on Fountain view. Very nice area or it use to be.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 30, 2016 02:09 PM (QPdNE)

83 74. It was also done as a scheme to buy the land cheap and build lofts It's why the redid Sox stadium, property values skyrocketed Obama's friends of course

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 30, 2016 02:09 PM (FOThK)

84 The Founders would already be imprisioned for correctly addressing the specter of the Obama presidency. What the hell is wrong with us?

Posted by: turfmann at March 30, 2016 02:10 PM (kEIlQ)

85 Those who would will to power should remember that "Go fuck yourself" lost to "E Pluribus Unum" by just a couple votes in the slogan contest.

True fact.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 30, 2016 02:10 PM (EUMr7)

86 agenda 21

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 30, 2016 02:10 PM (0O7c5)

87 >>...Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.


Yeah, there were signs.

The refugees, the open borders, this Agenda 21 stuff all reminds me of this,  Importing revolution: http://preview.tinyurl.com/gnlrcmc


Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at March 30, 2016 02:10 PM (NOIQH)

88 Uh for the most part this will only affect Liberal strongholds, and I for one am seriously OK with this. There aren't many large affluent Conservative enclaves for HUD to dump this sort of thing into, we tend to disperse. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 30, 2016 07:07 PM (iONHu) No. It's another Democrat money grab. Your money, if you live in a suburb. If you live outside a metropolitan area, don't worry. You're next.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 02:10 PM (s5o+q)

89 Bruce With a Wang!

What neighborhood?

I'm a West Pullman alumni myself.

Hoooo-boy, talk about going to Hell.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 30, 2016 02:10 PM (XdbLA)

90 Actually I can't imagine anything more effective in bringing about SMOD than having Shaniqua imported right next door with her gaggle of Javons and Tqawanzaas.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 30, 2016 02:10 PM (4ErVI)

91 Oh and the SC gave HUD that power.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 30, 2016 02:11 PM (QPdNE)

92 Obama was born in the wrong era. He was destined to be a Pharaoh, not an American President. I'm quite certain he thinks of this often. Also, Ted Cruz is snivelling little liar who's loathsome rat like little voice is only exceeded by his punchable face. Just a personal observation, of course.

Posted by: Community Organizer at March 30, 2016 02:11 PM (9VLhN)

93 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 30, 2016 07:07 PM (iONHu Orange County California.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 30, 2016 02:11 PM (egOGm)

94 76. Your main gal will not be so vocal about this as Bark BUT I assure you she will use it as a weapon to attack the wealthiest GOP neighborhoods in Red States. Nck? I'll ground her ass then!!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 30, 2016 02:11 PM (FOThK)

95 Progressives would love nothing more than to concentrate the population in a central area so as to exert maximum constraints on an individual's liberty. It's always about control with these motherf***ers

Posted by: Slipping Jimmy at March 30, 2016 02:11 PM (tHTNf)

96 Dear God, what the hell were those people thinking by electing this malignant, flaming boner of a clown show once, much less twice?

Posted by: People of the 22nd Century at March 30, 2016 02:12 PM (LAe3v)

97 91 Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 30, 2016 07:11 PM (QPdNE) Not to worry... the GOP Senate will confirm Bark's new pet and it is game over. It is not as though Judas Iscariot Roberts will do anything as CJ to stop it.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:12 PM (g8Hfr)

98 89. I'm a born and raised in Lakeview

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 30, 2016 02:12 PM (FOThK)

99 91 Oh and the SC gave HUD that power.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 30, 2016 07:11 PM (QPdNE)


Do you have a case reference?

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at March 30, 2016 02:12 PM (vvmPQ)

100 95 Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 30, 2016 07:11 PM (FOThK) come on Joe....you've been "ready for Hillary!" since 1991 baby

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:13 PM (g8Hfr)

101 "Dear God, what the hell were those people thinking by electing this malignant, flaming boner of a clown show once, much less twice?"
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He's so cool!

Posted by: My Imbecile Former Roommate, Who's Small Finance Business Went Belly-Up in 2009 at March 30, 2016 02:13 PM (7Kbxu)

102 Also, Ted Cruz is snivelling little liar who's loathsome rat like little voice is only exceeded by his punchable face.

mmmmmf, Donald, do you think you could warn me this time, mmmmmmf

Posted by: pep at March 30, 2016 02:14 PM (LAe3v)

103 look up rosa koire

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 30, 2016 02:14 PM (0O7c5)

104 I just want to be left alone. Is that too much to ask?

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 30, 2016 02:14 PM (CNHr1)

105 "We are going to be Soviet America.... " Actually, the Soviets were not like this at all. Unproductive comrades were declared "useless eaters" and sent off to labor camps, not given food, housing, education, medical, etc.

Posted by: navybrat at March 30, 2016 02:14 PM (8QGte)

106 Guess I'd better sell the laundromat and branch out into my dream-empire: A strip mall with a liquor store, a 'convenience store' ('acceptamos WIC'), and a check-cashing/payday loan/title loan place, right next door to a grillz emporium and a rim rentals joint. I'll be cashing my checks in Asuncion......

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at March 30, 2016 02:15 PM (lutOX)

107 Dear God, what the hell were those people thinking by electing this malignant, flaming boner of a clown show once, much less twice? Posted by: People of the 22nd Century at March 30, 2016 07:12 PM (LAe3v) 1) Free shit? Cool! 2) Democrat? Cool! 3) First Black President? Cool! etc. I don't think it went much deeper than level of thought process for most of the non-fraudulent Obama voters.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 02:15 PM (s5o+q)

108 Vic http://tinyurl.com/zvg4nqn SCotUS blog

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:15 PM (g8Hfr)

109 *rubs hands with glee* More money to scam out of HUD (and the taxpayer). http://tinyurl.com/jrthp9f

Posted by: Tony Soprano at March 30, 2016 02:15 PM (s87AC)

110 I don't see the problem. "The Wire" was one of the most popular series in the history of television. Now, not only can you watch it, you can live it, at least as long as you continue living.

Posted by: obnoxious ahole at March 30, 2016 02:15 PM (MpvuV)

111 Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 30, 2016 07:10 PM (XdbLA) Austin

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 30, 2016 02:15 PM (iQIUe)

112 I just want to be left alone. Is that too much to ask? Posted by: Jewells45 at March 30, 2016 07:14 PM (CNHr1) If you have to ask . . .

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 02:15 PM (s5o+q)

113 Vic, see http://preview.tinyurl.com/z4y2crd

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 30, 2016 02:16 PM (QPdNE)

114 I'm curious as to why they're still pushing this at this point in a 2nd term. I guess they assume the next Prez will be a Democrat? A GOPer could just reverse all this crap, right? (I'm assuming a spine in the GOP President, so bear with me)

Posted by: Blano at March 30, 2016 02:16 PM (3eoPa)

115 They want everyone to live in easily "manageable" high rises in Cities... easier to keep tabs on Us... And no I'm not wearing a tin-foil hat....

Posted by: donna at March 30, 2016 02:16 PM (O2RFr)

116 106 Posted by: navybrat at March 30, 2016 07:14 PM (8QGte) They did not become THAT Soviet overnight comrade... and trust me FreeShit Army will learn some bitter lessons here when their power is unassailable.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:16 PM (g8Hfr)

117 >>Actually I can't imagine anything more effective in bringing about SMOD than having Shaniqua imported right next door with her gaggle of Javons and Tqawanzaas.

Are you so sure they don't want SMOD?
Who benefits from conflict, chaos, unrest?

But there is a second reason for moving people around, and that is to foster revolution by actively promoting unrest. The goal is to achieve "fundamental transformation" of a country by tearing down existing structures, replacing them with a new order of government.
Who are Obama's mentors - weren't they people like Ayers who wanted a violent revolution?

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at March 30, 2016 02:16 PM (NOIQH)

118 Actually, the Soviets were not like this at all. Unproductive comrades were declared "useless eaters" and sent off to labor camps, not given food, housing, education, medical, etc.

Not to mention all the fresh air and ice for their drinks.

Posted by: pep at March 30, 2016 02:17 PM (LAe3v)

119 Ask not for whom the bone bones; it bones for thee.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 30, 2016 02:17 PM (0mRoj)

120 Austin

I bet the comrades next door in The People's Republic Of Oak Park are getting a little nervous about Chalky showing up soon on their sidewalks.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 30, 2016 02:17 PM (XdbLA)

121 112. Think we'll get someone from Englewood? Btw, Rahm grew up about a mile down the street from me I hope I kicked his ass growing up

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 30, 2016 02:17 PM (FOThK)

122 Oooooh maybe Shakespeare of the Senate can save us!

Posted by: Molly Ringwald at March 30, 2016 02:17 PM (mcm0N)

123 I am going to ask my friend who is in real estate, but here in Santa Barbara County, CA, when you build a new development, they usually have two or three houses for low income people. I think the builders may receive a tax break. Tract style homes. The fancier home developments don't do this.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 30, 2016 02:18 PM (egOGm)

124 Can we put the first of this high density high rises in Beverly Hills and Brentwood? And Martha's Vineyard?
 
I would hate for "our betters" to miss the "experience" of having racially diverse neighborhoods.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 30, 2016 02:18 PM (MrV8Y)

125 Btw, Rahm grew up about a mile down the street from me I hope I kicked his ass growing up Did You beat up Ballet dancers as a kid?

Posted by: donna at March 30, 2016 02:18 PM (O2RFr)

126 48 whoops wrong thread And here I thought I was the only one who did that

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 02:19 PM (fizMZ)

127 This is one of the major reasons I don't ever want to move. Pretty much every place that isn't already built on is state or federal park or conservation land.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 02:19 PM (/tuJf)

128 121. Oak Park was so nice in the early 80s Now not so much Same with Naperville

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 30, 2016 02:19 PM (FOThK)

129 122 112. Think we'll get someone from Englewood? Btw, Rahm grew up about a mile down the street from me I hope I kicked his ass growing up Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 30, 2016 07:17 PM ******* Looks like one of those typed that was on Ritalin when he was a kid. Who bit his finger off?

Posted by: Molly Ringwald at March 30, 2016 02:19 PM (mcm0N)

130 121 Austin I bet the comrades next door in The People's Republic Of Oak Park are getting a little nervous about Chalky showing up soon on their sidewalks. Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 30, 2016 07:17 PM (XdbLA) ============= I'm surprised the violence and crime has not spilled over significantly into Oak Park/River Forest. I sure wouldnt walk around at night even out to my car.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 30, 2016 02:19 PM (iQIUe)

131 HUD has been trying that out here in the far NW reaches of Harris County (Houston).  Unincorporated area, luxury and upscale homes and apartment buildings separated by undeveloped land tracts. many of which are have use as cow grazing fields.  Horse stables abound.

As one of my kids' HS friend remarked as I drove them to school, "where else are ya gonna see 2 - 3 herds of cows everyday on your way to school?"

What are HUD customers gonna do out here with no sidewalks, no bus service, no taxi stands, no county med facilities for low-income people, no place to walk to a grocery store, no nothing for those who can't take care of and support themselves?

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 30, 2016 02:19 PM (JO9+V)

132 Who are Obama's mentors - weren't they people like Ayers who wanted a violent revolution? Posted by: Lizzy at March 30, 2016 07:16 PM (NOIQH) The thing about revolutions is that, from what I can tell of history, they often first consume the very people who promulgated the revolution, which then, goes on to consume many, many others before the monster is sated.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 02:20 PM (s5o+q)

133 And here I thought I was the only one who did that Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 07:19 PM (fizMZ) But it's **funny** when Ace does it.

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 02:20 PM (s5o+q)

134 109 Vic

http://tinyurl.com/zvg4nqn

SCotUS blog

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 07:15 PM (g8Hfr)


I have seen those cases, they are disparate impact cases and not the same thing.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at March 30, 2016 02:20 PM (vvmPQ)

135 Maybe I'll just build my own little Bartertown..... Yes, maybe it's time to pull up stakes and flee into the Wasteland. Hmmm... Or, I could go to Japan and help reverse their demographic decline.....that could be more fun.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at March 30, 2016 02:21 PM (lutOX)

136 In the 1990s, Berkeley and HUD tried to shut down critics of a plan to turn apartment buildings and hotels in residential neighborhoods into drug rehab housing. If you lived in those areas and objected to having junkies hanging out where your kids walked to school, you were vermin who deserved to be sued into silence. I actually wrote a piece for the (now defunct) West Coast edition of National Review on this.

Posted by: stuiec at March 30, 2016 02:21 PM (eetvJ)

Posted by: Old Blue at March 30, 2016 02:21 PM (9iR5/)

138 So today the White house said the government wasn't going to get into your phone, but what they will get into is your neighborhood

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2016 02:21 PM (fizMZ)

139 126. Did You beat up Ballet dancers as a kid If they crossed Addison there was a chance, yep

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 30, 2016 02:22 PM (FOThK)

140 135 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 30, 2016 07:20 PM (vvmPQ) Disparate Impact cases will be the foundation for HUD *reluctantly* having to magic up this power and SCotUS *sadly* having to grant it to them when the case reaches them.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:22 PM (g8Hfr)

141 >>>>>>No.

It's another Democrat money grab.

Your money, if you live in a suburb.

If you live outside a metropolitan area, don't worry. You're next.
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.Uh no.  If you don't take any HUD money they can't do anything at least according to all of the articles that story links to. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 30, 2016 02:22 PM (iONHu)

142 God has used Obama to strengthen people of faith and ability. I'm praying the denouement is a farce not a tragedy. In the long run you get what you pray for. So pray for good things. For everybody. Also pray that you still want what you prayed for when you get it.

Posted by: scorecard at March 30, 2016 02:22 PM (CRXed)

143 In Calif, property taxes are very high. People in rich areas pay alot not to have to deal with crime.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 30, 2016 02:22 PM (iQIUe)

144 here in Lost Angels, the city is already pushing such nonsense, advocating large "mixed use" developments near transit lines, etc...

they're also using language, referring to suburban areas such as The Valley, as urban, undoubtedly in a first step into trying to convert the area into a shithole, not that parts of it aren't already.

unexpectedly, the shitty parts are all full of illegal aliens from down south, or Eastern Europeons who would rather have a shitty apartment and an expensive car than live somewhere nice and drive a cheap one. for that mind set i blame the Soviet Union.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 30, 2016 02:23 PM (J+4uN)

145 >> Can we put the first of this high density high rises in Beverly Hills and Brentwood? And Martha's Vineyard? >>I would hate for "our betters" to miss the "experience" of having racially diverse neighborhoods. Believe it or not, Martha's Vineyard does have a big African American community mainly around Oak Bluffs. Well of blacks for the most part. It isn't so much a race thing as a money thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 02:23 PM (/tuJf)

146 I'm too old for this shit. I just want to move somewhere where I don't have neighbors. Is that too much to ask? I think I've earned it, dammit.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 30, 2016 02:23 PM (CNHr1)

147 114 Vic,
see http://preview.tinyurl.com/z4y2crd

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 30, 2016 07:16 PM (QPdNE)


More disparate impact cases.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at March 30, 2016 02:23 PM (vvmPQ)

148 Wait until all the inner city poor move to the suburbs. I can then get a good deal on the inner city.

Posted by: Javems at March 30, 2016 02:24 PM (yOqwj)

149 Day 63 ... ... today, in a rare moment of peace, I looked to the heavens, and I saw them. The Trump and The Cruz. They were magnificent. They were terrifying. Engaged in a cosmic battle. The Trump shouted, and The Golden Hair Weasel sprang forth in a terrible rage and formed a great, luxurious wall. The Cruz morphed into a Serpent larger than my comprehension - and savored the cosmos with his forked tongue. I am afraid.

Posted by: ScoggDog's Diary at March 30, 2016 02:24 PM (fiGNd)

150 147. You can!!! Move to the big island of Hawaii You can get a spamalope ranch

Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 30, 2016 02:24 PM (FOThK)

151 unexpectedly, the shitty parts are all full of illegal aliens from down south, or Eastern Europeons who would rather have a shitty apartment and an expensive car than live somewhere nice and drive a cheap one. for that mind set i blame the Soviet Union. Posted by: redc1c4 at March 30, 2016 07:23 PM (J+4uN) *** Re: former East Bloc folks and their cars.... Look, EVERYBODY had a shitty little stack-a-prole cement kennel to sleep in. But a car, comrade, very few had cars.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at March 30, 2016 02:25 PM (lutOX)

152 Can we put the first of this high density high rises in Beverly Hills and Brentwood? And Martha's Vineyard? I would hate for "our betters" to miss the "experience" of having racially diverse neighborhoods. Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 30, 2016 07:18 PM (MrV8Y) Funny how those who cry the loudest for diversity are the least diverse

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 30, 2016 02:25 PM (45oDG)

153 "... no nothing for those who can't take care of and support themselves?"

not to worry: while you're at w*rk they'll just break into your house and help themselves to whatever they need.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 30, 2016 02:26 PM (J+4uN)

154 Hodge Twins respond to Vegan haters on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5Pj7IjG1Pk

Posted by: Creepy-ass Wisconisn Dairy Farmer at March 30, 2016 02:26 PM (Lw+oL)

155 >>Believe it or not, Martha's Vineyard does have a big African American community mainly around Oak Bluffs. Well off blacks for the most part.
It isn't so much a race thing as a money thing.


Also historical, right - escaped slaves settled there?

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at March 30, 2016 02:26 PM (NOIQH)

156 Navycopjoe, Are you on the big island? My favorite place is hualalai.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 30, 2016 02:26 PM (egOGm)

157 I knew a family - mom black, dad white, who had a summer home in Martha's Vineyard. Dad was a prof of art and a painter.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 30, 2016 02:26 PM (iQIUe)

158 141  Disparate Impact cases will be the foundation for HUD *reluctantly* having to magic up this power and SCotUS *sadly* having to grant it to them when the case reaches them.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 07:22 PM (g8Hfr)


SCOTUS has previously ruled against a lot of those flimsy disparate impact cases. And it can not be the mechanism they use to reclassify public zoning laws which have nothing to do with disparate impact.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at March 30, 2016 02:26 PM (vvmPQ)

159 Believe it or not, Martha's Vineyard does have a big African American community mainly around Oak Bluffs. Well of blacks for the most part.

It isn't so much a race thing as a money thing.
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OK, let me rephrase that.

I hope that "our betters" will be able to have the uplifting experience of living in very close proximity to "diverse" groups of people who are "extremely economically disadvantaged".

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 30, 2016 02:26 PM (MrV8Y)

160 Oak Park was so nice in the early 80s Now not so much Same with Naperville Posted by: Navycopjoe at March 30, 2016 07:19 PM (FOThK) From what I've been seeing and hearing they are really shoveling Section 8 shitheads out to the burbs and the suburban cops cannot handle all of the new honor roll students.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 30, 2016 02:27 PM (45oDG)

161 The Woodlands, TX was required to build a certain percentage of low income housing before they were allowed to expand. I'm unsure if that was a State or Federal requirement.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 02:27 PM (MNgU2)

162 But I thought that to oppose this made one an alt right nazi fascist racist sonofabitch?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 30, 2016 02:27 PM (FkBIv)

163 148 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 30, 2016 07:23 PM (vvmPQ) We're dealing with a guy who reads US immigration law and sees "open the gates!" who is on pace to be followed by a member of "Depnds on what is is" clan... They will simply assert that the absence of the impoverished means there is by inherent definition "disparate impact." Judas Iscariot Roberts will slam the gavel and likely agree with the idiot wing. SCotUS will not ponder for a moment that they will have laid the precedentary groundwork for wealth seizure.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:27 PM (g8Hfr)

164 "Look, EVERYBODY had a shitty little stack-a-prole cement kennel to sleep in. But a car, comrade, very few had cars."

that's what i was getting at.

Posted by: redc1c4 at March 30, 2016 02:27 PM (J+4uN)

165 Well I for one am waiting for My affordable housing in Malibu... On the beach.... I deserve it....

Posted by: donna at March 30, 2016 02:28 PM (O2RFr)

166 Joe Hallenback, They do the same thing in Cali, but I need to ask my builder friend.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 30, 2016 02:28 PM (egOGm)

167 @4: "How about 'get stuffed', HUD? Does that work for you?"

Works fine.  Can we pencil you in for a 3 a.m. SWAT raid, then?

Posted by: HUD at March 30, 2016 02:28 PM (rznWS)

168
"SCotUS will not ponder for a moment that they will have laid the precedentary groundwork for wealth seizure."

I think they're OK with wealth seizure, as long as it's NOT their wealth, or the wealth of their friends.

/it was nice knowing you middle class...

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 30, 2016 02:28 PM (MrV8Y)

169 >>Also historical, right - escaped slaves settled there? I think so, yep. Now Nantucket is a whole different thing. Whiter than a snow globe in winter. And very, very rich.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 02:28 PM (/tuJf)

170 80 Cincy was solid red in my youth...it is at best Purple now. Any city of 30,000 people that swings GOP is a higher priority target than Haight-Assbury...bank on it. Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 07:09 PM (g8Hfr) They're going to target Warren and Clermont counties in the Cincinnati area. Bet on it. They have rich areas, are law abiding, and conservative.

Posted by: Film Actors Guild at March 30, 2016 02:29 PM (RvSAg)

171 Just a thought.

With so many people coming here from Mexico and Central America, is there some now-depopulated place down there - somewhere with an agreeable, tropical climate, perhaps - that a bunch of liberty-loving, well-armed gringos call all move to and take over, and start our own country?

Didn't we try that once with Nicaragua?

Posted by: Qoheleth at March 30, 2016 02:29 PM (iIzG7)

172 159 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 30, 2016 07:26 PM (vvmPQ) When, not if the court tilts left this fall if not sooner Vic a LOT of things go back to the way they were before Reagan. The 2d Amendment will again become a "murky misunderstood amendment" and the prior cases properly smacking down this specious horseshit will not be viewed as "binding" at all. The court that is about to happen will make the Warren court look restrained.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:29 PM (g8Hfr)

173 165 "Look, EVERYBODY had a shitty little stack-a-prole cement kennel to sleep in. But a car, comrade, very few had cars." that's what i was getting at. Posted by: redc1c4 at March 30, 2016 07:27 PM (J+4uN) *** I saw much the same thing with FSU folks in the early 90's in Beantown. a lot of them lived in hell-holes, but made a point to enjoy luxuries undreamt-of in their former homes. It is human nature.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at March 30, 2016 02:29 PM (lutOX)

174 Uh no. If you don't take any HUD money they can't do anything at least according to all of the articles that story links to. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 30, 2016 07:22 PM (iONHu) And how many counties in the US have cities which have *not* taken HUD money?

Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 02:29 PM (s5o+q)

175 All I hear from liberals is how boring the suburbs are. Well they got their wish. They won't be boring anymore, what with the non-stop sirens 24/7.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at March 30, 2016 02:29 PM (0LHZx)

176 From what I've been seeing and hearing they are really shoveling Section 8 shitheads out to the burbs and the suburban cops cannot handle all of the new honor roll students.

There is a bit of a cultural shock when D'Felonius goes before a DuPage judge and gets 10 years for armed robbery instead of the time served and probation he'd get from Cook County.

But the Obama Department of Justice for Just Us is working on THAT one, too.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 30, 2016 02:29 PM (XdbLA)

177 I'm too old for this shit. I just want to move somewhere where I don't have neighbors. Is that too much to ask? I think I've earned it, dammit.

Amen to that. Until then a new shotgun will have to do.

Posted by: dartist at March 30, 2016 02:29 PM (qmou8)

178 So the other day I brought up trying to remember, in a broad sense, how things were in this country eight years ago, and then, from that perspective, think about what your impressions would be of now - the age of Obama. I stated that I believe that not one person would have imagined that our society now - in the age of Obama - could possibly have undergone the changes that it has. Nobody would have imagined that an agency would have had the nerve to even contemplate something like this - even in secret. Nobody would have imagined it. And there are plenty of other impossible to imagine from the perspective of eight years ago happening now. We used to snicker at 3rd rate repressive regimes that pulled this shit.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at March 30, 2016 02:30 PM (4ng05)

179 175 Uh no. If you don't take any HUD money they can't do anything at least according to all of the articles that story links to. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 30, 2016 07:22 PM (iONHu) And how many counties in the US have cities which have *not* taken HUD money? Posted by: filbert at March 30, 2016 07:29 PM (s5o+q) ____ It's like the 21 drinking age. You don't have to raise it to 21, you just won't get any money if you don't. Number of states who chose the no money option: 0

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at March 30, 2016 02:30 PM (0LHZx)

180

I am going to ask my friend who is in real estate, but here in Santa Barbara County, CA, when you build a new development, they usually have two or three houses for low income people. I think the builders may receive a tax break.
Tract style homes.
The fancier home developments don't do this.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 30, 2016 07:18 PM (egOGm)

...................

 

Yes, I heard on the radio new housing developers in Fresno County were being forced to provide a certain percentage of low income housing, they said it would ruin their business and lower housing prices overall. Also local residents heard about it and are getting angry.

Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 02:30 PM (HgMAr)

181 I resent this assholes turning our neighborhoods into violent shitholes! Are these people blind? Can they not see what they have done??

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 30, 2016 02:30 PM (iQIUe)

182 @10: "You see, this kind of crap is what the 'So what, it's the Uniparty, let it burn' types forget all about."

No, the Let It Burn types understand implicitly that stuff like this will happen.  Stuff like this is the small flame that eventually lights the conflagration.  It's a cold analysis, but ultimately, the worse, the better.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at March 30, 2016 02:31 PM (rznWS)

183 171 Posted by: Film Actors Guild at March 30, 2016 07:29 PM (RvSAg) Yup I see you've read their battle map too. Ohio *may* go GOP this cycle...if Ogabe's shit holds it will never do so after this cycle.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:31 PM (g8Hfr)

184 But the Obama Department of Justice for Just Us is working on THAT one, too. Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 30, 2016 07:29 PM (XdbLA) ____ Yep. Loretta Lynch is forcing local courts to no longer go after "poor minorities" who fail to pay court fines.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at March 30, 2016 02:31 PM (0LHZx)

185 182 I resent this assholes turning our neighborhoods into violent shitholes! Are these people blind? Can they not see what they have done?? Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 30, 2016 07:30 PM (iQIUe) - - - - You will be culturally enriched. And you will like it.

Posted by: Community Organizer at March 30, 2016 02:31 PM (9VLhN)

186 Claim: "Obama is Seeking to Annex the Suburbs and Muzzle Dissent from this Policy"

We give this claim five Pinocchios.

Under the new HUD rules, County lines remain extant and distinct. The only change is that representative governments duly elected in those Counties will have no power over zoning and health and safety regulations. In fact, an expert whom we consulted, Professor Moonbeam Guevara Mao McStalin, chair of the Suburban Studies department at UC Berkeley said "This is no big deal, man." Further, claims that Obama is "muzzling" political opponents are likewise false. It is attorneys for HUD who are seeking to quiet racist local opposition qualifying as Hate Speech in order to provide safe spaces for HUD to educate the public on this new regulation, not Obama.

Posted by: Glen Klessler at March 30, 2016 02:32 PM (RfZaB)

187 >>>>>And how many counties in the US have cities which have *not* taken HUD money?
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.With the exceptions of Louisville and Lexington, pretty much no one here in Kentucky gets HUD money outside of the small downtown areas.  Kentucky is a big State with a whole bunch of empty in it. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 30, 2016 02:32 PM (iONHu)

188 ------------
Funny how those who cry the loudest for diversity are the least diverse Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 30, 2016 07:25 PM
-----------------

If I were cynical, I might conclude that the loud crying for diversity is actually cover for BIGOTED THOUGHTS. But, of course, that's ridiculous.

Posted by: irright at March 30, 2016 02:32 PM (XfEYT)

189 170 >>Also historical, right - escaped slaves settled there? I think so, yep. Now Nantucket is a whole different thing. Whiter than a snow globe in winter. And very, very rich. Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 07:28 PM (/tuJf) Wings is on my top five sitcom list. How accurate did they portray Nantucket?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 30, 2016 02:33 PM (MNgU2)

190 I resent this assholes turning our neighborhoods into violent shitholes! Are these people blind? Can they not see what they have done??

Can't have glorious revolution without breaking eggs, comrade!

And, no, they don't care.

They're sociopaths with power.

They'll do good to you until you beg for mercy, and then they'll do good to you some more.

Never a good thing to see.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 30, 2016 02:33 PM (XdbLA)

191 There is a bit of a cultural shock when D'Felonius goes before a DuPage judge and gets 10 years for armed robbery instead of the time served and probation he'd get from Cook County. But the Obama Department of Justice for Just Us is working on THAT one, too. Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 30, 2016 07:29 PM (XdbLA) =============== Same in CA. In LA you would get a couple of days or nothing for a theft and in a small town, you would get a month jail. And the leftys in Sacramento have fixed that too in making most crimes now infractions.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 30, 2016 02:33 PM (iQIUe)

192 From what I've been seeing and hearing they are really shoveling Section
8 shitheads out to the burbs and the suburban cops cannot handle all of
the new honor roll students.



Re-locating the wolves in amongst the sheep.  Insanity!

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 30, 2016 02:33 PM (JO9+V)

193 .With the exceptions of Louisville and Lexington, pretty much no one here in Kentucky gets HUD money outside of the small downtown areas. Kentucky is a big State with a whole bunch of empty in it. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 30, 2016 07:32 PM (iONHu) **** Grew up in WV - yeah, a whole lot of nothing whatsoever. Hmmm...Eastern Redoubt, anyone?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at March 30, 2016 02:33 PM (lutOX)

194 This isn't about diversity, this is about flipping red areas to blue. When Dems relocate the stupidest most inbred and violent trash they have, conservatives will leave - leaving behind the fruits of their labor - for safer and saner horizons. So it's political wins and, in a manner of speaking, theft. But what's new? The best and the brightest always leave for greener pastures, or places with potential for greener pastures. The only way the left ever has anything is to take it over and steal. They are vermin.

Posted by: Crowley at March 30, 2016 02:33 PM (Bzhs1)

195 Oh well time to get ready for bed.  And I probably have nothing to worry about on this core.  All the lots in my neighborhood are already built on and we have several black families living here already.  I'm sure they would be violently opposed to HUD building Fidlers Green here since they have kids and moved here to get away from the high crime "traditionally black neighborhoods.

Posted by: Vic[/i] We Have No Party at March 30, 2016 02:33 PM (vvmPQ)

196 180 Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at March 30, 2016 07:30 PM (0LHZx) Ever need a good bitter laugh? Well wrap your head around the Democrat wandering zero on "Adulthood"... so they lowered the voting age b/c "GIs can go die on Anzio but they can't vote for the guys sending 'em there!" then they raised the drinking age b/c "little fuckers can't be trusted!" but a 12 year old girl is adult enough to choose an invasive surgery.... but a 26 year old is too young to be responsible for their own health coverage.... their gun fires everywhere.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:33 PM (g8Hfr)

197 There is a bit of a cultural shock when D'Felonius goes before a DuPage judge and gets 10 years for armed robbery instead of the time served and probation he'd get from Cook County. But the Obama Department of Justice for Just Us is working on THAT one, too. Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 30, 2016 07:29 PM (XdbLA) Yes, I saw that Loretta Holder Lynch doesn't want people of color to be sentenced. I have an idea, if they want different laws for whites and people of color how about separating everything by white and colored...oh wait..

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 30, 2016 02:34 PM (45oDG)

198 Day 84 ... ... still we fight, as The Trump and The Cruz thunder overhead. Some find their sweet release in the swift and final ending brought by the forms of "Ace" and "Maet". Sometimes, when I sleep, I dream of what these mysterious figures could be. Sometimes visions come to me of a small, bear-like creature. Other times I see a great golden hammer. Regardless, I always awake covered in my own sweat and fear. And then I return to the field. And I no longer look to the heavens. I no longer care to see what is there.

Posted by: ScoggDog's Diary at March 30, 2016 02:34 PM (fiGNd)

199 It's like the 21 drinking age. You don't have to raise it to 21, you just won't get any money if you don't. Number of states who chose the no money option: 0 Same with seat belt laws.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 30, 2016 02:34 PM (FkBIv)

200 45: "And I also think that many women are uncomfortable with their previous abortions being branded, officially if not legally operatively, "murders."" Good. They should feel bad about sacrificing a human child on the altar of convenience.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at March 30, 2016 02:34 PM (yv7u6)

201 You will be culturally enriched. And you will like it. Posted by: Community Organizer at March 30, 2016 07:31 PM (9VLhN) ========== Heh. I remember in the 80s people wd say their neighborhood was "multiculture" which really meant high crime.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 30, 2016 02:34 PM (iQIUe)

202 Chappaqua. A few more letters and you get Chappaquidick.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 30, 2016 02:35 PM (p4UlV)

203 Please read James Geraghty's piece on Trump, and the dawning realization among some of his supporters as to what they have wrought.  

Let me guess, you don't read NR, because RINOs? 

http://tinyurl.com/hfvghsh

Posted by: pep at March 30, 2016 02:35 PM (LAe3v)

204 53: "Ha! Bringing it to you - you will be forced to deal with this." Ok. But I don't think they will like my solution.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at March 30, 2016 02:35 PM (yv7u6)

205 The next step is that neighborhoods with nearly no crime become accustomed to high rate s of burglary. So when incidents of youth of unspecified ethnicity getting shot increased, it will be perfect fodder for the race baiters to point out how awful those white people are to those poor kids just trying to get money to buy clothes for school.

Posted by: Epobirs at March 30, 2016 02:36 PM (IdCqF)

206 The concept of this isn't new, even though the feds getting involved is new. Back in 2003ish, the city I lived in had a proposal that would force any new housing development above a certain number of units - 100 I think it was - to set aside 10% of the units available for a discounted price for municipal workers. The reasoning was those poor teachers needed help buying houses. It wasn't quite the same as having Section 8 scum living next to you, but the concept was the same. Person A pays $X for the house, person B pays significantly less than $X because they're a member of a Democrat friendly group of voters. I moved right around the time this was in the works so I don't know if it ever happened or not. But even back then Democrats were scheming ways to fuck shit up.

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at March 30, 2016 02:36 PM (0LHZx)

207 Let me know when Pacific Heights, Aspen and Georgetown have Cabrini Greens go up in their soon to be non-existent borders.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 30, 2016 02:36 PM (p4UlV)

208

Can we put the first of this high density high rises in Beverly Hills and Brentwood? And Martha's Vineyard?

I would hate for "our betters" to miss the "experience" of having racially diverse neighborhoods.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at March 30, 2016 07:18 PM (MrV8Y)

.............

 

They are the first to yell NIMBY!

Posted by: wth at March 30, 2016 02:37 PM (HgMAr)

209 204 Posted by: pep at March 30, 2016 07:35 PM (LAe3v) respectfully? Fuck Jim Geraghty his squish ass motherfu*kerness brand of GOP assininity is why this midget with a toupee has ANY fucking oxygen in the first goddamned place. Where was Jimbo when people like me were screaming the GOP was losing the working white class possibly forever? Sucking the CoC sweet sweet man-licorice.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:37 PM (g8Hfr)

210 >>Wings is on my top five sitcom list. How accurate did they portray Nantucket? I liked it too but they made it a little folksier than it really is. Or at least how I see it. Maybe it's just gotten more elite over the last 30 years or so but man it's gotten expensive. One of my favorite places but I usually go in the off season in the fall when the prices are down a little. Fun fact, back in the whaling days Nantucket was the richest town in America. Lot of great history and some truly beautiful places. Definitely worth a visit.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2016 02:38 PM (/tuJf)

211 >>Wings is on my top five sitcom list. How accurate did they portray Nantucket?


Hmm, not sure, but it's definitely more low-key than Martha's Vineyard. My SIL (RIP) and her husband have owned a house on Nantucket for over 30 years. They were total hippies in the 60's and raised their family on a tiny farm (where they grew veggies and raised livestock to feed the family) in the Berkshires just down the road from Arlo Guthrie. So...not flashy, jetsetting richie riches.

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at March 30, 2016 02:38 PM (NOIQH)

212 It's all of a piece of smearing the wealth around to a level that looks like prosperity to a Pakistani bricklayer, as Neil Stephenson had it.

Got something nice? Let's just put it in a bag and smash it up, so everybody can have a piece!

That's fairness!

Except, of course, for the uber-educated and pampered people in charge.

They're special

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 30, 2016 02:38 PM (XdbLA)

213 I'm guessing this won't affect say...Beverly Hills?

Posted by: BignJames at March 30, 2016 02:38 PM (HtUkt)

214 Jim Geraghty is a cocksucker just like Rick Wilson.

Posted by: Creepy-ass Wisconisn Dairy Farmer at March 30, 2016 02:38 PM (Lw+oL)

215 I bet most municipal govts have no clue this is happening. They need to be informed. Write your mayor, council members, county commissioners, ect and tell them what's going on. Send a few links to stories about this.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 30, 2016 02:38 PM (0LHZx)

216 210 204 Posted by: pep at March 30, 2016 07:35 PM (LAe3v)


respectfully?

Fuck Jim Geraghty his squish ass motherfu*kerness brand of GOP assininity is why this midget with a toupee has ANY fucking oxygen in the first goddamned place.

Where was Jimbo when people like me were screaming the GOP was losing the working white class possibly forever?

Sucking the CoC sweet sweet man-licorice. Posted by: sven10077


Okay, I'll put you down as undecided. 

Posted by: pep at March 30, 2016 02:39 PM (LAe3v)

217 I'm sure the fraudulent political party that goes by the nom de fail of the GOP will be all over this. Has Issa started hearings yet?

Posted by: Kreplach at March 30, 2016 02:39 PM (WVvzl)

218 213 Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at March 30, 2016 07:38 PM (XdbLA) Yeah oddly I will not be a 4th class citizen in the "riot to get what I want" Olympics.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:39 PM (g8Hfr)

219 >>>>> The concept of this isn't new, even though the feds getting involved is new. Back in 2003ish, the city I lived in had a proposal that would force any new housing development above a certain number of units - 100 I think it was - to set aside 10% of the units available for a discounted price for municipal workers. The reasoning was those poor teachers needed help buying houses.

It wasn't quite the same as having Section 8 scum living next to you, but the concept was the same. Person A pays $X for the house, person B pays significantly less than $X because they're a member of a Democrat friendly group of voters.

I moved right around the time this was in the works so I don't know if it ever happened or not. But even back then Democrats were scheming ways to fuck shit up.
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.They have done that for years in Lexington, KY and certain groups tried to get it done in my small Town but that got shot down quick.  Developers can make a certain % of their new housing "affordable" in the County and get some small property tax breaks if they want to, but there is nothing mandatory or any Federal $$$ kickbacks. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 30, 2016 02:39 PM (iONHu)

220 And this is why block grants and the Federal government collecting tax money centrally, in order to redistribute it, needs to be stopped.  The Federal government doesn't have to pass a law to have its influence; it can simply withhold money from states and cities that don't play ball.

This is why money needs to be taxed where it is spent - cities for police departments, states for roads, school districts for textbooks.  Federal money always has strings attached.

Part of getting control of our government is getting control of the checkwriting.

Posted by: Qoheleth at March 30, 2016 02:40 PM (iIzG7)

221 Same with seat belt laws. Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 30, 2016 07:34 PM (FkBIv) I don't think so. New Hampshire has no seat belt laws for adults.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 30, 2016 02:40 PM (AkOaV)

222 Please read James Geraghty's piece on Trump, and the dawning realization among some of his supporters as to what they have wrought. All of that is noise. Trump is antifragile to Media attacks, unlike traditional GOP candidates who were easily tied down with stuff like "Binders of Women". He is THE candidate to throw at Hillary. Let the SJWs pull out their racism, misogyny, xenophobic cards and laugh when they shatter on the Glory of The Hair. Arf arf arf!

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 02:40 PM (uURQL)

223 Sweet, sweet man-licorice? Now THAT is some creative writing right there.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 30, 2016 02:40 PM (p4UlV)

224 What this will do is make older, established neighborhoods much more desirable and expensive. Option A: Buy new home where my neighbor will be Shaniqua and D'AnDre OptionB: Buy old home where you can't build any new "low income" units and my neighbors. Option B's price will skyrocket.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 30, 2016 02:41 PM (0LHZx)

225 #206. "Neighborhoods with nearly no crime being accustomed to high rates of burglary..."

Something about your comment (aptly put) reminded me of No Child Left Behind. If you recall, schools that met their Adequate Yearly Progress (AYP = strong performance) were rewarded with lousy students, inherited from lousy schools. Next year, lo and behold, that school didn't meet it's AYP and was reprimanded. This. This is called leadership. BS. Blind idiocy.

Posted by: Crowley at March 30, 2016 02:41 PM (Bzhs1)

226 217 Posted by: pep at March 30, 2016 07:39 PM (LAe3v) I don't have a lot of use for the Toupee other than fuck Hillary. Thing is assholes like Jimbo and his fellow CoCsucker Rick Wilson and Davey Brooks all expect the Trumpkins to go "My God What Have I done" Kwai scene... yeah shitheads how many "What Have I Done!?!" moments did NR et al hit the snooze bar through? F*ckers like Jimbo are why part of me will smile like Enzyte Bob if they can't stop the Toupee.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:41 PM (g8Hfr)

227 214 I'm guessing this won't affect say...Beverly Hills? Posted by: BignJames at March 30, 2016 07:38 PM (HtUkt) I lived in the Beverly Hills flats, the part of town below Sunset and above Pico, in the 90's and believe it or not, there were a lot of senior citizens who were definitely not liberal. I'm sure that has changed, but your point is taken and I agree. Sub in Pacific Heights, Aspen, Georgetown, the Hamptons, etc.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 30, 2016 02:42 PM (p4UlV)

228 224 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 30, 2016 07:40 PM (p4UlV) I was on sabbatical recharging my humor batteries a bit. I am sparing you guys my rage/angst on this race.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:42 PM (g8Hfr)

229 Salt-of-the-earth communities where most bear arms will be in demand.

Posted by: Crowley at March 30, 2016 02:43 PM (Bzhs1)

230 @26: "when I first came back from my 4 month or so hiatus I pointed out we are going full bore $ociali$t at a minimum....

Barky is laying the groundwork to go commie.

Ivan took 72 years to shed the yoke...

we never will as a whole."

Not to worry, Islam will eventually conquer communism/socialism, for the simple fact that it breeds future generations of fighters.  Under socialism and communism, birthrates crater.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at March 30, 2016 02:43 PM (rznWS)

231 I lived in the Beverly Hills flats, the part of town below Sunset and above Pico, in the 90's and believe it or not, there were a lot of senior citizens who were definitely not liberal. I'm sure that has changed, but your point is taken and I agree. Sub in Pacific Heights, Aspen, Georgetown, the Hamptons, etc. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 30, 2016 07:42 PM (p4UlV) ____ Yeah the article (yes I actually read it) talks about Westechester, NY which is uber liberal and is getting fucked by Obama.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (0LHZx)

232 229 I am sparing you guys my rage/angst on this race. Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 07:42 PM (g8Hfr) I feel your pain. Hence my general absence, especially from Trump related threads.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (p4UlV)

233 230 Posted by: Crowley at March 30, 2016 07:43 PM (Bzhs1) When I was a wee Viking my grandma explained to me that when communists old sway the wise man hides his wealth, shuts his mouth, and looks poor.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (g8Hfr)

234 Let me guess, you don't read NR, because RINOs?

Posted by: pep


No, I don't read it any more because they employ eugenicists.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i][/b] at March 30, 2016 02:44 PM (A/3fN)

235 @27: "There is no escape from Totalitarianism."

There is, but few are willing to take the necessary steps until it is too late.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at March 30, 2016 02:45 PM (rznWS)

236 232 Yeah the article (yes I actually read it) talks about Westechester, NY which is uber liberal and is getting fucked by Obama. Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 30, 2016 07:44 PM (0LHZx) There are parts of Westchester that are not super wealthy like Chappaqua. Yonkers for instance. But I assume this "fuhrer-directiv" only applies to the tonier towns and hamlets. Personally, let them get invaded by the Swisher Sweet brigades, but this sets precedent for complete lawlessness - like everything else over the past 7+ years. Sickening.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 30, 2016 02:45 PM (p4UlV)

237 235 Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 30, 2016 07:44 PM (A/3fN) Kevin "Your poor white trash communities are one I can tee off on and get noticed by Bronk" D Williamson reporting for duty sir!

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:45 PM (g8Hfr)

238 Recommended reading: the late Elmer Kelton's The Year It Never Rained.
Feds get their hooks in us somehow, someway.

Posted by: Crowley at March 30, 2016 02:46 PM (Bzhs1)

239 At this point, I'm fine with just openly stealing it from Trump. The top of the ticket is dead now, I'm sure Trump will torpedo whoever takes his place, but I don't care. I'm wanting to salvage the rest of the offices nationwide. I'm not going to let the Dems take everything to make a point about immigration. We'll put someone up like Ted Cruz, he'll lose, but at least it's not some blowout. Dems are now excited at the prospect of taking back the House with Trump I see Trump conceding before Election Day if he's behind, he's not going to go and do the formal speech on Election Night, he'll be tweeting some picture of himself at one of his resorts to show it was no skin off his back.

Posted by: Swingline at March 30, 2016 02:47 PM (ZoAWs)

240 Nood up.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 02:47 PM (uURQL)

241 The law has other effects besides social engineering. Like wealth transference in the form of devaluing expensive homes. Well played, SCOAMF (pig-piss be upon him)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 30, 2016 02:47 PM (p4UlV)

242 I don't think so. New Hampshire has no seat belt laws for adults. Posted by: Harry Paratestes http://preview.tinyurl.com/z7zlbgz

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (FkBIv)

243 And where is the GOP in all of this? Where is the outrage and even the meaningless bluster over this? *crickets* Feckless, invertebrate mewlings. Absolutely worthless....

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (ShplO)

244 227 I don't have a lot of use for the Toupee other than fuck Hillary. Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 07:41 PM (g8Hfr) A worthy cause if ever there was one.

Posted by: Splunge at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (iMxBJ)

245 Every place where Section Eight housing is mandated tends to suck. The residents of such housing, on average, do not make good neighbors.

Like a lot of young couples in the late 80s and early 90s, my brother and his then wife moved out to a new house on Palmdale, CA because the price were so low compared to any place decent in Los Angeles County. When I went to help him break up the hard dirt in front to plant grass, I noticed something. The development had been built in bands, so walking across those bands took you from the most recent construction to the older places. The general appearance notably got worse as you went toward the oldest homes, even though they were only completed a decade earlier at the most.

I knew from past experience with the area that these were relatively new homes but the earliest parts of the development looked awful. Front yard that were barren or masses of weed were common. The few that looked better tend to be those filled in with cement to create one big driveway or some other minimal maintenance approach.

Sure enough, after five years of a horrendous daily commute, my brother's house was one of just a few on his street that still had any semblance of a lawn or anything indicating pride of place on the part of the residents. Along with this the crime rate was appalling compared to the placid Thousand Oaks where we grew up or the part of the San Fernando Valley his wife had spent her life until then.

Section Eight is a form of reverse colonization and revenge scheme by race mongers and class warfare activists.

Posted by: Epobirs at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (IdCqF)

246 240 Posted by: Swingline at March 30, 2016 07:47 PM (ZoAWs) It is not just about immigration...and Trump barely understands why he has oxygen... it is about working class people having their livelihoods destroyed by partisan, capricious regulatory fiat like when EPA shut down America's last industrial lead smelter... and the GOP does the supine butt thrust to Obama just like Obama does to Islam.....

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 02:48 PM (g8Hfr)

247 Day 91 ... ... I do not know why we fight, only that we have forgotten how not too. The men speak of The Party - a cosmic entity greater than The Trump and The Cruz - who will bring forth new gods. I fear this news. As terrible as The Trump and The Cruz are, the horrors of The Unknown are limitless. The next Gods may be worse. Today - I closed on a foe - and he dropped his weapon, kneeled, raised his head to the heavens, and shouted "cuck". The small bear-figure from my dreams sprang from the ground, reeking of some unknown mead and vomit, and grabbed him by the throat with his jagged, toothy maw. The bear-figure pulled him back down, down into the earth. I saw the man's eyes. Glassy, frozen ... and at peace. I was shaken, and rather than seek battle, I stood still. I watched a friend submit to a foe in a like manner, and shout "cunt" to the heavens. The golden hammer - terrible in form yet blissfully formless - crushed him. Quickly, mercilessly. I do not know these killing words ... but I will learn them. I will never forget.

Posted by: ScoggDog's Diary at March 30, 2016 02:49 PM (fiGNd)

248 234, Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 07:44 PM (g8Hfr)

I'll note that proverb. Thanks.
Our plan is to pay off all obligations and see how little we can live on.

Posted by: Crowley at March 30, 2016 02:49 PM (Bzhs1)

249 The next step is that neighborhoods with nearly no crime become accustomed to high rate s of burglary. So when incidents of youth of unspecified ethnicity getting shot increased, it will be perfect fodder for the race baiters to point out how awful those white people are to those poor kids just trying to get money to buy clothes for school. Posted by: Epobirs at March 30, 2016 07:36 PM (IdCqF) Is that why they're having armed robberies at Walgreens and CVSes? Just to get money for their chirren.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 30, 2016 02:50 PM (45oDG)

250 Apropos of nothing, and this proves even less: Met a really interesting fellow at work his week. Definitely ME, thirty or so. Had the soldier's eye and we get to talking. Interpreter, served with our boys in Iraq. Moved to Texas because "it is a military district; it is safe here." Has the same first name as the prophet of Islam, his family name is that of a famous Caliph, but his name badge reads, "George W. Maxwell." God Bless America.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at March 30, 2016 02:50 PM (lutOX)

251 Posted by: ScoggDog's Diary at March 30, 2016 07:49 PM (fiGNd) *slowclap*

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at March 30, 2016 02:51 PM (uURQL)

252 There was a wonderful article some years ago about the police in a city, don't remember which one, who were trying to figure out why crime was happening in so many new locations. They had mapped out the new crime, and were scratching their heads. Then someone brought in a Section 8 housing map, and the mystery was solved.

Posted by: Splunge at March 30, 2016 02:51 PM (iMxBJ)

253 #228

There was a movie 'The Slums of Beverly Hills' that many people didn't realize was quite reality driven in the premise.

Posted by: Epobirs at March 30, 2016 02:53 PM (IdCqF)

254 @53: "They want it so that no one can be safe, comfortable. Oh, you think you can flee to the suburbs and not care about inner-city problems? Ha! Bringing it to you - you will be forced to deal with this."

One might, if one were cynical enough, think that they were actually trying to provoke a race war, which, again, if one were cynical enough, they might then use as an excuse to grab further control over society while simultaneously eliminating actual and potential enemies.  It might also be used to lower headcount and seize control of assets...but again, you'd have to be pretty cynical to think that.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at March 30, 2016 02:54 PM (rznWS)

255 #253

Today that person would be fired and all witnesses threatened with the same if they didn't pretend they'd never seen the overlaid maps.

Posted by: Epobirs at March 30, 2016 02:54 PM (IdCqF)

256 I am trying to convince myself it is not too late to work within the system. I can't even imagine a plausible path.

Posted by: Shiggz at March 30, 2016 02:55 PM (G7wcY)

257 The decent poor don't need Section 8 housing. We qualified for welfare, but my mom (divorced from a dreamer who didn't want to work regularly) moved her three kids to the edge of a nice town with good schools. She worked a full-time and part-time job so we could pay rent on a trailer and attend that better school. We went on to graduate from college and be productive and self-sufficient citizens. And not one of us turned out liberal.

Posted by: Crowley at March 30, 2016 02:57 PM (Bzhs1)

258 Loretta Lynch is forcing local courts to no longer go after "poor minorities" who fail to pay court fines. Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at March 30, 2016 07:31 PM (0LHZx) Under what authority does Lynch have control over courts?

Posted by: Blano at March 30, 2016 02:57 PM (3eoPa)

259 We need to put his hud homes in Obama biden and Clinton neighborhood

Posted by: Shiggz at March 30, 2016 02:57 PM (G7wcY)

260 Jim G's column shows exactly why Trump exists. The whole attitude of it's not us it's you is why we are where we are. T To people like him, the voters are just too stupid to know what's good for them. Fuck that guy in particular.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 30, 2016 02:59 PM (kTF2Z)

261 I'm glad I missed this thread. This is the one issue that makes me want to get all shooty right fuckin' now. "Fuck you, Whitey. You thought you could escape the hood? Well, we're bringing the hood to you, and you can't do shit about it."

Posted by: rickl at March 30, 2016 02:59 PM (sdi6R)

262 We need to put his hud homes in Obama biden and Clinton neighborhood Posted by: Shiggz at March 30, 2016 07:57 PM (G7wcY) Barry's neighborhood in Chicago is surrounded by some of the worst of the worst. Good job of community organizing there.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 30, 2016 03:00 PM (45oDG)

263 Funny how those who cry the loudest for diversity are the least diverse

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 30, 2016 07:25 PM (45oDG)


Funny how any of these proposals ever get off the ground after receiving the answer of "no" to the following question:

"Is this in your neighborhood?"

"No."

"Well that it's then. Thanks for playing."

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 30, 2016 03:00 PM (4ErVI)

264 @84: "The Founders would already be imprisioned for correctly addressing the specter of the Obama presidency.

What the hell is wrong with us?"

Everyone's a patriot until the time comes to do patriot stuff.  The Founding Fathers actually did it (despite most of their fellows either sitting it out, or supporting the other side).

Posted by: FaCubeItches at March 30, 2016 03:00 PM (rznWS)

265 "Fuck you, Whitey. You thought you could escape the hood? Well, we're bringing the hood to you, and you can't do shit about it." Posted by: rickl at March 30, 2016 07:59 PM (sdi6R) Looking to buy a house in the Chicago burbs. Out of Crook County and the in-laws are saying - don't go near there it's Section 8. There's a lot of crime over there now. Swell.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 30, 2016 03:01 PM (45oDG)

266 Day 94 ... ... this will be my last entry. The wise men tell me the rumors are true. The Party will bring forth new Gods, more fearsome than The Trump and The Cruz. The wise men tell me it must be so - for a greater threat known as The Walker comes. I care not. This Walker they speak of can be no more terrible than The Trump or the Cruz. I can neither conceive of such, or wish to see such. And if The Walker truly is as they say, then let this world burn. I can save it not. So tomorrow, I shall go to the field one last time. Perhaps I shall use a killing word - and gladly embrace the small, foul bear-figure. Or perhaps I shall call down the ghostly hammer - and enjoy the warmth of it's deathly blow. Judge me not, those of you who have not seen the Trump/Cruz war.

Posted by: ScoggDog's Diary at March 30, 2016 03:04 PM (fiGNd)

267 @106: "Actually, the Soviets were not like this at all. Unproductive comrades were declared "useless eaters" and sent off to labor camps, not given food, housing, education, medical, etc."

AFTER the Revolution succeeded, comrade.  After.  Once the enemies of the Revolution are slain, then they deal with the no-longer-needed.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at March 30, 2016 03:04 PM (rznWS)

268 There was an elementary school just a few blocks from my house that was torn down a couple years ago. Every time I drive past I look at the site for signs of new construction. So far nothing, but I have a bad feeling about this.

Posted by: rickl at March 30, 2016 03:05 PM (sdi6R)

269 268 Posted by: FaCubeItches at March 30, 2016 08:04 PM (rznWS) I promised you land and bread comrade... you had your bread here is your plot of land... //Lavrenti Beria

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:05 PM (g8Hfr)

270

253: Posted by: Splunge at March 30, 2016 07:51 PM (iMxBJ)

"...Section 8 housing map..."

So they established a clear link between crime and subsidized poverty. Another factor: Residents in these Section 8 communities are living and reproducing in a very dense area. Even the Amish realized they needed to stop hooking up with the same Yoders and started hosting meetups with Amish from further afield.

Yet another brill Democrat plan - we're all just rats in their lab. Something for the techies to crunch and parse in their databases.

Posted by: Crowley at March 30, 2016 03:06 PM (Bzhs1)

271 From the perspective of Obama fed to him by his commissar cum puppetmaster (Jarrett) and the reigning Leftist myth, urban America is in the shape it is in due to "White Flight" and with it a reduction in the tax bases of cities and a concomitant reduction in funds for services including education. This is, of course, the original sin of racism regardless of the fact that it was very plainly a response to the urban crime wave of 1960s-1990s (which has just began to reverse after the BLM highjinks in Ferguson and progeny).

So, this is in effect reverse engineering White Flight so that there will be no place to which you can escape. Double digit increase in violent crime over last year? Too bad, asshole. A few young white girls found in dumpsters are a small price to pay for progress. The plan is to visit the endemic social pathologies of the inner city upon you, in your children's schools, in your borough or town so that you will care. So that you can't throw your hands up, say "I tried but this is insoluble and I'm not about to sacrifice my wife or kids to this." So that you'll be motivated to want the big spending solutions they'll propose. So that they can "organize" the new denizens of Suburbia politically and turn red districts purple and purple districts blue.

It's sinister, unamerican, and evil, but they really do believe that they're doing the work of the God they pretend to believe in at election time.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at March 30, 2016 03:08 PM (RfZaB)

272 272, Posted by: Alec Leamas at March 30, 2016 08:08 PM (RfZaB)

It will only accelerate the flight of decent people, effectively forcing them to abandon the fruits of their labor. Modern-day Dems don't build anything - they regulate and control and squeeze and steal, not to mention lie and demoralize.

Posted by: Crowley at March 30, 2016 03:11 PM (Bzhs1)

273 272 Posted by: Alec Leamas at March 30, 2016 08:08 PM (RfZaB) Pay evil unto evil. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PayEvilUntoEvil I try to be a good Xian, I do.... II know Jesus said in http://biblehub.com/romans/12-17.htm I am to pay evil with good.... but at some point fire for fire and sword for sword is something you beg forgiveness for.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:12 PM (g8Hfr)

274 273 Posted by: Crowley at March 30, 2016 08:11 PM (Bzhs1) If the Secret Service has never used callsign Locust for ValJar I am disappointed.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:13 PM (g8Hfr)

275 I will confess this secret wish: That at least some of the Section 8 housing is stood up next to a mega church. I've never met a well-heeled pastor who could stomach the unwashed masses - they just can't afford "membership."

Posted by: Crowley at March 30, 2016 03:14 PM (Bzhs1)

276 @221: "Part of getting control of our government is getting control of the checkwriting."

Given that the GOP controls the purse strings, and does nothing to stop any of the creeping totalitarianism, it might look, to a cynical person, as if they support it.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at March 30, 2016 03:15 PM (rznWS)

277 276 Posted by: Crowley at March 30, 2016 08:14 PM (Bzhs1) You owe it to yourself to go to Columbia SC.... there's a nice pizza joint called La Brasca's you can eat at... go to Gervais Street and check out the mega church.... *exactly*

Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 03:15 PM (g8Hfr)

278 This is why we can't let Hillary win POTUS. People who support this kind of thing will think they've won.

Posted by: MayBee at March 30, 2016 03:15 PM (owMUc)

279 I've watched these hud relocations too middle classos neighborhood happen everywhere i have lived. O guess this is just the federal instead of state level? State level are mostly dems anyway. This is about un gerrymandering conservative didtricts for State elections not federal.

Posted by: Shiggz at March 30, 2016 03:19 PM (G7wcY)

280 I've seen this concept before - and believe it to be true - but I honestly don't know how it will personally impact me. It's horse-shit, for sure, but as a dude that lives more rural than anything - bringing those folks out this far is a bad idea. Not enough police to protect them. Read that again. Not enough police to protect THEM. What I don't know - really don't - is how this will impact a "suburb". I've honestly never lived in one.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 30, 2016 03:20 PM (fiGNd)

281 278: Posted by: sven10077 at March 30, 2016 08:15 PM (g8Hfr)
Tony Evans leads a mega church. I think he could handle anyone new to the neighborhood seeing as he helped his daddy, a street evangelist.

But North Pointe in Atlanta or Saddleback or McLean - not sure.

Posted by: Crowley at March 30, 2016 03:22 PM (Bzhs1)

282 I posted about this topic last night, after Levin had interviewed the County Attorney from Chappaqua who stood on Hillary's lawn and called for her to come out and explain either why she chose to live in a discriminatory neighborhood, or why HUD was screwing everyone over. And for those who wish this happening in fancy neighborhood, yes, that is exactly where it is happening. Marin County CA and a tony part of Baltimore are currently being targeted by HUD. To create diversity and "economic opportunity". HUD will pay housing vouchers for those minority individuals chosen to live in these areas. Along with covering their taxes, utilities, and transportation. Because, fairness.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 30, 2016 03:23 PM (ph1j2)

283 281: Posted by: ScoggDog at March 30, 2016 08:20 PM (fiGNd)

Yes, in the rural areas people are generally self-sufficient and armed.

Posted by: Crowley at March 30, 2016 03:24 PM (Bzhs1)

284 It's horse-shit, for sure, but as a dude that lives more rural than anything - bringing those folks out this far is a bad idea. Not enough police to protect them. Read that again. Not enough police to protect THEM. What I don't know - really don't - is how this will impact a "suburb". I've honestly never lived in one. Posted by: ScoggDog at March 30, 2016 08:20 PM (fiGNd) Scogg Dogg. You need to understand that this most certainly will reach you. I live in a rural area also and several years ago, my little township was sued to allow "manufactured housing" to be developed right in the middle of a field. We fought and fought, but when the money ran out, the township had to settle and allow the development to take place. So we have a glorified trailer park with 500 hundred residents, all of whom are "lower income". They have no understanding or concept of what farming or rural residents need or want from their government. But they have the exact same vote I have. So they changed the demographics of my little township drastically, by making up almost 35% of the total population. Try to get them to come to a township meeting or understand the issues.....

Posted by: Jen the original at March 30, 2016 03:29 PM (ph1j2)

285 283 And for those who wish this happening in fancy neighborhood, yes, that is exactly where it is happening. Marin County CA and a tony part of Baltimore are currently being targeted by HUD. Posted by: Jen the original at March 30, 2016 08:23 PM (ph1j2) I don't much care if this happens in rich, tony neighborhoods. They're mostly Democrat anyway, and deserve to feel the consequences of their social policies good and hard. I don't want it happening in *my* middle-class neighborhood, though. Most of us never voted for that crap.

Posted by: rickl at March 30, 2016 03:32 PM (sdi6R)

286 2005. Hurricane Katrina.  A sizable segment of New Orleans' dindus suddenly relocate to Houston.  Hilarity ensures.


We've already seen this movie on a grand, epic scale.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 30, 2016 03:35 PM (JO9+V)

287 For instance, Mt. Vernon needs more rich white people just as badly a Chappaqua needs poor black people. HUD should just give some crackhead Hillary's mansion then relocate her fat ass to the projects. She'll be begging for jail time. Posted by: mugiwara at March 30, 2016 07:05 PM (ect26) You are right - there are pluses to this. The left-wing historian Simon Schama also lives in Westchester County. He will be debating Mark Steyn on April 1 regarding the desirability of accepting Syrian refugees. Schama's all for it. I think they should be moved into projects built right across the street from Schama's digs. Just don't tell them Schama's Jewish.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at March 30, 2016 03:36 PM (P8951)

288 I don't want it happening in *my* middle-class neighborhood, though. Most of us never voted for that crap. Posted by: rickl at March 30, 2016 08:32 PM (sdi6R) There will be nothing to stop this if it isn't stopped either by a new administration or by Congress. Middle class neighborhoods will be considered fair game if they are too "white".

Posted by: Jen the original at March 30, 2016 03:37 PM (ph1j2)

289 Residential density is the highest correlating statistic to party voting. Dems are playing the long game when it comes to votes. If conservatives are too noble play the same game (e.g. raising the voting age) then we have doomed the country.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 30, 2016 03:54 PM (VdICR)

290 If they build public housing next door to Hillary, her Secret Service agents really will have to guard her server. Unfortunately, when liberals ruin a place, they move on to a red state--then start voting for the same liberal policies that forced them to move in the first place. As for refugees, Obama hopes to thwart the rogue terrorist nation (America, not iran) by planting fifth columnists everywhere until we have the societal cohesion of the UN General Assembly. btw, when the Administration was finally shamed and cornered into grudginly admitting the Christian Genocide, they emphasized the few Shiites ISIS also victimized. they plan to use the christian genocide as a means to bring more Shiites to America. Ayatollah's orders.

Posted by: The Wolf Who Cried Boy at March 30, 2016 03:54 PM (Ndje9)

291 An overnight influx of newcomers causes strain on a community. Think of how your neighborhoods and school boards and tax base was changed when Californian's sold their homes at the high and snapped up homes in your towns, bidding up even, and pushing out the long-time residents to cheaper horizons. Cedar City, Utah, and hundreds just like them.

Hurricane Katrina is one thing. Manufactured crises, like Obama's plotting, is another.

I'm watching Shane while typing and just hit Riker's speech at the 108:00 mark. Watch that. He's the bad guy, but he's got a point.

Posted by: Crowley at March 30, 2016 03:59 PM (Bzhs1)

292 I should clarify, just like the new (relative) wealthy can push out long-time residents, an influx of low people who have purpose other than to be a blight on a community, can push out the hardworking long-time residents as well. Some of this is naturally occurring. But this Section 8 nonsense is manufactured with clear agendas.

Posted by: Crowley at March 30, 2016 04:02 PM (Bzhs1)

293 When white people move out of a city, it's called White Flight.
When white people move back into a city, it's called Gentrification.
So White People are bad either way.

So now HUD is going to punish them for leaving. How will they punish the people moving back?

Was talking to a nice, hard working AA girl one day at work. She says the people in her Section 8 housing, 8 units, drive her family nuts, even at 6 in the morning. She and a hairdresser are the only two who work in the entire building. I said, "what are they doing at 6 in the morning that wakes you up?" "Drinking," she answered.

Coming soon to an empty lot near you.

Posted by: PJ at March 30, 2016 04:16 PM (cHuNI)

294 It's not unlike Common Core. With the money comes control. You think you're getting high academic standards and the next thing you know, they're teaching your third-graders how to put condoms on a bullwhip.

Posted by: The Wolf Who Cried Boy at March 30, 2016 04:22 PM (Ndje9)

295 Where will the people trying to escape high-density public housing go now?

Posted by: Hank at March 30, 2016 04:35 PM (VqT9P)

296 Coming to your formerly safe suburb, Detroit, South-side Chicongo, Baltimore.....

The future is going to be NOT glorious comrades, NOT GLORIOUS but crime ridden.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at March 30, 2016 04:41 PM (AhyHb)

297 There is no saving the once former republic of the USA. There is only surviving until it is fundamentally changed again...that one, I think, maybe a bit messy.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at March 30, 2016 04:43 PM (AhyHb)

298 I see this first hand website I live. I'm in a city, which is extremely diverse, but we have sections where people migrate to. Downtown was always Italians, Irish and Polish, another area is populated with Hispanics, another with African Americans and another Indians, Egyptians, Pakistanis and other Arab countries. Right after this threat from the president was issued our mayor announced a new giant low income high rise right in the predominantly Caucasian neighborhood. Unlike the other private buildings in the area, this thing was started not even weeks later, The land was purchased and work began in record time. Our mayor had never hid his plans to become governor and knows the votes he needs to get there, so he'll carry that water for the Pres, pushing a policy that had failed far more times than it had succeeded, all to stick it to the evil rich whitey (which ironically out mayor is one of)

Posted by: Rbastid at March 30, 2016 04:50 PM (XwTyM)

299 @299 Where I live, not website I live.

Posted by: Rbastid at March 30, 2016 04:51 PM (XwTyM)

300 It's helter skelter all over again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boO4RowROiw

Posted by: Olsen Johnson at March 30, 2016 05:32 PM (k9nOA)

301 Another communist horseshoe acheme by the fucking liar in chief to drown out red areas and replace it with shit stain permanent democrat votes... with your money! Fuck TFG to high hell.

Posted by: Eli Cash at March 30, 2016 05:48 PM (Dc/ui)

302 I see a lot of commenters are thinking this only applies to big lefty cities' suburbs -- NOT SO. Actually, the HUD made DUBUQUE, IOWA, a "suburb" of CHIGAGO, which is 200 -- two hundred! miles away, and in a different STATE.

Sorry for the caps, folks, but please believe me: this is designed to get YOU, not the already-liberal enclaves. It's a huge, long-arm-of-the-Feds outreach to destroy all our enclaves, all our retreats.

Those who think that upper-middle-class suburbs are out of reach had better think again: Westchester is where Hildabeast and the Serial Rapist keep their address of convenience; IOW, quite posh, and They're the county that the Leftists are making their test case. They're going for the whole worm, folks.

No matter where you live, you're in the bull's eye.

Posted by: Beverly at March 31, 2016 09:47 AM (n50ou)

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