December 30, 2010

New York Unions Just Might Have Staged a Deliberate Slow-Down In Snow-Clearing To Send a Message
— Ace

And that message? We need you to fire us as soon as possible and start with a new batch of fresh, cheaper employees who understand how they got their jobs in the first place (that is, by the last batch being fired wholesale).

The country's more in the mood to take on public-employee unions than it has been since, who knows, Calvin Coolidge, and this is what they pull? Not smart. There are tens of thousands of unemployed people who'd love to have these jobs.

Time for a bloodletting? Oh definitely. But I always think that.

Why the NY Post is calling the whistleblowers "snitches" is beyond me. But it's always been a sort of blue-collar paper. I guess they feel they're supposed to call anyone who calls out union misbehavior a "snitch."

These garbage men really stink.

Selfish Sanitation Department bosses from the snow-slammed outer boroughs ordered their drivers to snarl the blizzard cleanup to protest budget cuts -- a disastrous move that turned streets into a minefield for emergency-services vehicles, The Post has learned.

Miles of roads stretching from as north as Whitestone, Queens, to the south shore of Staten Island still remained treacherously unplowed last night because of the shameless job action, several sources and a city lawmaker said, which was over a raft of demotions, attrition and budget cuts.

"They sent a message to the rest of the city that these particular labor issues are more important," said City Councilman Dan Halloran (R-Queens), who was visited yesterday by a group of guilt-ridden sanitation workers who confessed the shameless plot.

Halloran said he met with three plow workers from the Sanitation Department -- and two Department of Transportation supervisors who were on loan -- at his office after he was flooded with irate calls from constituents.

The snitches "didn't want to be identified because they were afraid of retaliation," Halloran said. "They were told [by supervisors] to take off routes [and] not do the plowing of some of the major arteries in a timely manner. They were told to make the mayor pay for the layoffs, the reductions in rank for the supervisors, shrinking the rolls of the rank-and-file."

New York's Strongest used a variety of tactics to drag out the plowing process -- and pad overtime checks -- which included keeping plows slightly higher than the roadways and skipping over streets along their routes, the sources said.

The snow-removal snitches said they were told to keep their plows off most streets and to wait for orders before attacking the accumulating piles of snow.

From Ed Morrissey, who says he's skeptical because it's a Councilman (Republican) claiming he was told this; the story does aid him, since he's being blamed by constituents for the mess, and public union employees are always a nice scapegoat for Team Red.

But... I believe it. Sounds good to me!

More: Hm, not sure why Ed is skeptical. Reading on, I see the NYPost has verified the story, mostly, from independent sources in the sanitation department:

But multiple Sanitation Department sources told The Post yesterday that angry plow drivers have only been clearing streets assigned to them even if that means they have to drive through snowed-in roads with their plows raised.

And they are keeping their plow blades unusually high, making it necessary for them to have to run extra passes, adding time and extra pay.

One mechanic said some drivers are purposely smashing plows and salt spreaders to further stall the cleanup effort.

Commenters note that a newborn baby died due to a late ambulance, slowed by the snow.

Posted by: Ace at 07:29 AM | Comments (146)
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1 If true the union should be disbanded, its leadership banned from ever working for the state/city, and everyone in the planning of it should be charged with manslaughter for every person that died during the storm.

I would imagine this is open to a RICO investigation also, but I'm sure Holder has more important things to do then investigate crimes.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 30, 2010 07:31 AM (7BU4a)

2 Like that's going to happen.

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2010 07:31 AM (MrMxG)

3 he's skeptical because it's a Councilman (Republican) claiming he was told this; the story does aid him, since he's being blamed by constituents for the mess, and public union employees are always a nice scapegoat for Team Red.

LOL, this is being reported all over NYC. F&F even carried it this morning.

Posted by: Vic at December 30, 2010 07:32 AM (M9Ie6)

4 City that never sleeps. Cause its too busy loafing.

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2010 07:32 AM (MrMxG)

5 and public union employees are always a nice scapegoat for Team Red.

Yeah, these unfunded pensions? Not our fault.

Posted by: Some Union Thug at December 30, 2010 07:32 AM (7BU4a)

6 The Post called them "snitches" cause snitches get stitches.

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2010 07:33 AM (MrMxG)

7 Like that's going to happen.

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2010 12:31 PM (MrMxG)

Bloomie actually has a pretty strong incentive to move the blame off himself...

Posted by: 18-1 at December 30, 2010 07:33 AM (7BU4a)

8 A baby died in the lobby of an apartment building after ambulances couldn't get there for hours.  That makes these union thugs baby killers.  Firing isn't good enough for them.  Hang them from the lampposts as warnings to the rest of the public service sector.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at December 30, 2010 07:34 AM (QxGmu)

9 New York's Strongest used a variety of tactics to drag out the plowing process -- and pad overtime checks -- which included keeping plows slightly higher than the roadways and skipping over streets along their routes, the sources said.

Hey, we made sure there wasn't a drop of snow inside that Dunkin Dounts for over 5 straight hours, what more do you want?

Posted by: Some Sanitation Worker at December 30, 2010 07:35 AM (7BU4a)

10 Yesterday someone posted this video of these lazybone City workers hanging out the Dunkin Donuts for hours on end.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 30, 2010 07:35 AM (pLTLS)

11 Babies who need hospitalization hardest hit

Posted by: Ben at December 30, 2010 07:36 AM (wuv1c)

12 Bloomberg may want to point the finger away from himself, but no points in taking on the unions in NYC. He likes sleeping with the fishes maybe?

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2010 07:37 AM (MrMxG)

13 I'm not much for the 'Nu Metal', but I'll say this:

LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR!

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at December 30, 2010 07:37 AM (HpT9p)

14 You know what would make this Teh Awesome? If it was "snitched" on Wikileaks.

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2010 07:38 AM (MrMxG)

15 Bloomberg may want to point the finger away from himself, but no points in taking on the unions in NYC. He likes sleeping with the fishes maybe?

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2010 12:37 PM (MrMxG)

I can't think of a better position to be in for a 2012 election as a 3rd party candidate then publicly taking on a corrupt public sector union. 

Of course in reality Bloomie is a full blown leftist, so at best he'll just try to nail one guy from the union and leave it at that.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 30, 2010 07:38 AM (7BU4a)

16

Babies who need hospitalization hardest hit

Pft. That 22 year old girl would have punished with that would-be child. In the end it worked itself out.

Posted by: B to the H ot the O at December 30, 2010 07:39 AM (pLTLS)

17 My understanding of their grievance was that the number of workers had decreased even though the amount of money spent in their department had increased.

IOW, they had to lay off workers to support the golden retirements of previous workers.

Posted by: Vic at December 30, 2010 07:39 AM (M9Ie6)

18 Puff Baldy aka Ed M. should watch the Dunkin Donuts video and the tag team car crushing video, then rethink things. No wait. He should just deflate and melt into the carpet.

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2010 07:39 AM (ZTPeW)

19 Until there is proof from a reputable source aka Mr. Julian "I am wearing YOU Assange", I will view this as plausible deniability/spin. My favorite conspiracy story is that the Moonbats actually believed in the Global Warming Fraud thinking there will no longer be cold weather/climate etc and thinking it prudent to cut the budgets of the innocent/hard working union people. File this under the law of unintended consequences.

Posted by: political correctness czar at December 30, 2010 07:39 AM (UPNlB)

20 Anyone else have the feeling that the people who came forward on this will end up buried in the foundation of Ground Zero by the unions?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 30, 2010 07:40 AM (q4iSM)

21 Well? What are you waiting for Bloomberg? PATCO those motherfuckers!

Posted by: Ronald Reagan at December 30, 2010 07:40 AM (m+Utx)

22 If we were Dems, we would run with this story until being in a public sector union was as shameful as being in the Klan (deceased Senators from WV exempted), and damn the veracity.  Note that this is how the Dems actually get things they want, while we sit and wonder how we ever got to a point where America is circling the drain. 

Posted by: shillelagh at December 30, 2010 07:40 AM (Oz4Bj)

23 Completely O/T.  Next time you see one of those idiots with a coexist bumper sticker ask them when they are going to Mecca.

From the NY Times which, of course, sees no reason to be upset about this small fact about Mecca.

As a non-Muslim, I was not permitted to visit the city,


Posted by: Kemp at December 30, 2010 07:40 AM (JpFM9)

24

From Ed Morrissey,who says he's skeptical because it's a Councilman (Republican) claiming he was told this

Ah...good ol' Ed Morrissey.  That man is ever so "fair minded."  His constant preening about his "fair mindedness" and "to be fair" etc. etc. etc truely grates on my nerves.

Plus he always seems to think that quoting the simplest of micro econ 101 principles and then applying them to whatever issue he is writing about is the height of intellectual greatness.

Posted by: ed at December 30, 2010 07:40 AM (QLhy5)

25 Goldbricking is a NY tradition.

Posted by: Eric Holder at December 30, 2010 07:40 AM (GwPRU)

26 Reinforcing the liberal's "jobs Americans won't do" meme.

Posted by: t-bird at December 30, 2010 07:41 AM (kho+0)

Posted by: Ben at December 30, 2010 07:42 AM (wuv1c)

28

Think anyone has a Reaganesque spine to fire those bitches? I think not.

The sanitation mafia controls that city.  Nothing will be done.

Posted by: kevlarchick at December 30, 2010 07:42 AM (TNuqz)

29 That's a nice snow piled road ya got there. Shame if... er... nothing happened to it.

Posted by: Union Goon at December 30, 2010 07:42 AM (KDTMm)

30

Ace as a  Coolidge fan, i love the reference

Posted by: Ben at December 30, 2010 07:43 AM (wuv1c)

31 OT:  Happy - excuse the expression - New Years.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 30, 2010 07:44 AM (xxgag)

32 >>> ...I guess they feel they're supposed to call anyone who calls out union misbehavior a "snitch."

Fuck unions.

Posted by: Sweet Lucifer Morningstar at December 30, 2010 07:44 AM (q/Y+m)

33 "A baby died in the lobby of an apartment building after ambulances couldn't get there for hours." If you're involved in a robbery, and someone gets killed, you can be charged with homicide, right? Also, under the RICO guidelines, if you conspire to commit a crime, you're liable for the crime as well. Conspiring to keep NYC snowbound may not be a crime all by itself, but a good prosecutor could come up with plenty of things to charge the union with. Seems like with those 2 ideas in hand, Bloomie could go after the sanitation workers like Guiliani did the Mafia 5 families. Unless Bloomberg is a pussy, which he is, and unless the union is Mafia-run, which is very likely. So never mind. The race to the bottom between NY and Cali is heating up. Your move Gov. Moonbeam.

Posted by: cali grump at December 30, 2010 07:44 AM (hL0k8)

34 Glad you posted this, Ace. It's a nice, sensible counterpoint to "Poppin' Fresh's" jiveass commentary.

It does show the benefits of public-sector unions, doesn't it? It's time to go Ronald Reagan on the unions and decertify every one of them that's sucking on the public teat. If an investigation shows that the reports are true in this instance, criminal charges should be filed against whoever started it and everyone who participated.

Posted by: MrScribbler© at December 30, 2010 07:44 AM (Ulu3i)

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 30, 2010 07:45 AM (pLTLS)

36 Union slowdown... how would you notice?

Posted by: Randy at December 30, 2010 07:45 AM (D0PNd)

37 Are these the "shovel ready" jobs Obama has been talking about?

Posted by: Kemp at December 30, 2010 07:46 AM (JpFM9)

38 This will make for some great Campaign commercials.

Posted by: Oldsailor at December 30, 2010 07:46 AM (AovJ3)

39 Ace, I love your attitude in the last sentence.  That's how I feel about it too.  Too good to check!  Fuck these guys!

Posted by: Jeff B. at December 30, 2010 07:46 AM (l1KFP)

40 I can't wait till these union fucks are my doctord.

Posted by: Mr Pink at December 30, 2010 07:47 AM (ncA3g)

41 Shouldn't the North East be covered in pineapple plantations by now? All the models say so. Maybe a spider pissed on one of the CPUs.

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2010 07:47 AM (ZTPeW)

42

That unborn baby acted stupidly.

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 30, 2010 07:47 AM (TZh2P)

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 30, 2010 07:49 AM (pLTLS)

44 Arrest that plow!

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2010 07:49 AM (ZTPeW)

45 9 A baby died in the lobby of an apartment building after ambulances couldn't get there for hours.  That makes these union thugs baby killers.  Firing isn't good enough for them.  Hang them from the lampposts as warnings to the rest of the public service sector.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at December 30, 2010 12:34 PM (QxGmu)

As if unions weren't liberal heroes already.

Posted by: Randy at December 30, 2010 07:50 AM (D0PNd)

46

Removing Snow?

I give Mayor Bloomberg a B+!

Posted by: Barack H. Obama at December 30, 2010 07:50 AM (TZh2P)

47 If a corporation had done what these union thugs did we'd be hearing about class action lawsuits, criminal investigations and Congressional hearings.

Posted by: Reiver at December 30, 2010 07:50 AM (RFTUX)

48
Courage is belonging to a union and taking as many breaks you can in a day.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 30, 2010 07:51 AM (uFokq)

49 The cowardice of ass-clowns like Capt Ed is their worst aspect.   They watch the deliberate actions of the Left but constantly make excuses for them and tell us everything's fine, etc


Posted by: SantaRosaStan at December 30, 2010 07:51 AM (UqKQV)

50 I can't think of a better position to be in for a 2012 election as a 3rd party candidate then publicly taking on a corrupt public sector union

I'm on it. 

Posted by: Chris Christie preparing a cross-border putsch at December 30, 2010 07:51 AM (3ll0O)

51 If I were Bloomie - my first action would be to halt direct deposit of union dues from city paychecks, make the union management go beat their vig out of the rank n file. The fact that it is the most important thing to the union negotiators highlights it's importance.

Posted by: Jean at December 30, 2010 07:52 AM (7Jipo)

52 How about private contracts made per street or per neighborhood? Nah! More leeches!

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2010 07:52 AM (ZTPeW)

53 49 Imagine if a gov contractor in Iraq had conspired to slow down work in order to increase funding.

Posted by: Mr Pink at December 30, 2010 07:52 AM (ncA3g)

54 In a way, it's too bad Law and Order is gone.  I'd love to watch their 'ripped from the headlines' take on this, explaining how it's ultimately a rich white doctor's fault.

Posted by: kev at December 30, 2010 07:53 AM (Qkl1c)

55 In a way, it's too bad Law and Order is gone. I'd love to watch their 'ripped from the headlines' take on this, explaining how it's ultimately a rich white doctor's fault. Posted by: kev at December 30, 2010 12:53 PM (Qkl1c) Ahem, gay-hating, anti-Choice, working for Big Pharma white doctor.

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2010 07:55 AM (ZTPeW)

56

"But... I believe it. Sounds good like the most likely explanation considering the key players to me!"

FIFY

Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 30, 2010 07:56 AM (fLHQe)

57 "Ahem, gay-hating, anti-Choice, working for Big Pharma white doctor." Everyone knows that's who is usually shooting coke dealers.

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2010 07:57 AM (MrMxG)

58 Nothing will be done.  It's New York.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 30, 2010 07:57 AM (o3bYL)

59 Bloomberg will find some way to blame the snow on the Tea Parties.

Posted by: blaster at December 30, 2010 07:57 AM (MrMxG)

60 I can melt all NY snow just like that (slaps goat).

Posted by: Al Kida at December 30, 2010 07:59 AM (ZTPeW)

61 I'd like to report a negligent homicide in progress.
Sanitation workers are scarfing up coffee and donuts while people die due to unplowed streets.

Posted by: Dunkin Donuts Employee calling 911 at December 30, 2010 08:00 AM (gbCNS)

62 Nah, Ed is wrong.  There's no way a sitting councilman would make up a story that is so easy to confirm.  Even if the three workers came to him anonymously, once the city/Bloomberg launches and investigation, their names will have to come to light.  They'll be protected as whistleblowers. 

I bet this is 99% legitimate, with perhaps a bit of exaggeration for effect.  There are too may regular citizens who've ratted out the street crews during this storm for it to be made up.


I have to say, snow removal on our latest storm here in Utah has not been as good as on the previous (bigger) storm.  I'm hoping it's just a question of staffing over the holidays, but who knows. 

Posted by: Y-not at December 30, 2010 08:01 AM (IDL9N)

63 Just remembered: "Dirty as New York snow..."

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 30, 2010 08:01 AM (o3bYL)

64 Fuck Ed Morissey.

Paterson is initiating criminal investigations, since a Crown Heights infant died and a Midwood stroke victim suffered permanent brain damage thanks to this stunt. God knows how many other lives were threatened by the sanitation department's failure to do the job they are paid handsomely for.

In a NYT article, Doherty said he had 100 untrained workers because 400 people were fired. They all need fired. If you cannot lower a plow to a snowed in road, you have no business in that job, let alone collecting exorbitant 14 hr work day overtime pay.

This better be the last we hear of Bloomturd's presidential ambitions.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 30, 2010 08:01 AM (mHQ7T)

65 Oh boy is this great!

Posted by: Flounder at December 30, 2010 08:03 AM (mI11M)

66 More bodies will be found in the coming weeks. Maybe the Mayor should start a wall of pictures.

Posted by: eman at December 30, 2010 08:04 AM (ZTPeW)

67 Nothing surprising.  Unions are the original terrorists.  Their whole strategy, open and advocated for, is to bring pain to uninvolved parties in order to strengthen their position in some unrelated negotiation/extortion attempt.

They only get worse with time, and to let them infect government positions - they grow unrestrained in those unnatural environments - is to just ask for trouble.  This is our little Greece ... so far.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at December 30, 2010 08:05 AM (G/MYk)

68 So Ed is surprised that a Republican outed a thuggish union tactic? Who exactly did he think would expose it, a liberal Democrat? There are only two excuses for what happened in NYC, complete incompetence on the part of the union or a union action. I choose both.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2010 08:05 AM (TMB3S)

69  Everyone of those union thugs should be fired and their pension revoked.

I can't wait to see the massive judgments for wrongful deaths due to their criminal negligence.

Posted by: TexBob at December 30, 2010 08:05 AM (7cXE7)

70

I'm in a litigous mood today.

Could the union and their leadership be reasonably considered accessories to a crime, specifically someone's death, as a result of emergency vehicles not being able to access the roads now that this knowledge has come forth?

I think an investigation is in order. Somebody has to stop this shit.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 30, 2010 08:06 AM (b6qrg)

71

Snow...never heard of it.

Posted by: C. Gibson at December 30, 2010 08:07 AM (pr+up)

72 That baby was a wuss for not surviving it just because of a little snow!

Posted by: Ed Rendell at December 30, 2010 08:08 AM (KDTMm)

73 Here we have a news story with a named politician stating what he was told by sanitation workers, instead of some reporter claiming that he was told something by a "anonymous" staffer.  Sounds more plausible than any of the news stories against (insert Republican politican's name).

Posted by: opus at December 30, 2010 08:08 AM (IebeI)

74 Bloomberg may want to point the finger away from himself, but no points in taking on the unions in NYC.

He created all these useless supervisor positions and unnecessary jobs to pay off loyalists with federal stimulus money going into his third term. Then due to budget cuts -- because the productive class is fleeing the city in droves -- he slashed all those jobs. But this was supposed to be their reward for a GED and being mobbed up in their menial city job, their cushy pension. So, they took it out on the people who pay their salaries. Fire them all.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 30, 2010 08:09 AM (mHQ7T)

75

We started a C'OD flame battle on prior thread.

Front row seats still are available.

Posted by: journolist at December 30, 2010 08:09 AM (LwLqV)

76

If you like your snow covered streets....

   

Posted by: B.H. O'deary at December 30, 2010 08:10 AM (pr+up)

77 77 Docking procedure initiated.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 30, 2010 08:12 AM (o3bYL)

78 Union slowdown... how would you notice?

I laughed out loud.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 30, 2010 08:13 AM (S5YRY)

79 There are only two excuses for what happened in NYC, complete incompetence on the part of the union or a union action.

You have to wonder if these leaked videos of destroyed Ford Explorers and five hour coffee breaks weren't whistleblowers covering their asses.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 30, 2010 08:13 AM (mHQ7T)

80 Is it time for me to come in and bust the unions yet?

Posted by: Teddy Roosevelt at December 30, 2010 08:14 AM (IZ+mb)

81

Old Captain Ed tires to be thoughtful and just ends up looking like a liberal squish ...

He should have keep his own site running ...

Posted by: Jeff at December 30, 2010 08:14 AM (A3tpD)

82 Union slowdown... how would you notice?

Time lapse photography

Posted by: MikeTheMoose© at December 30, 2010 08:15 AM (0q2P7)

83 should have kept ...

Posted by: Jeff at December 30, 2010 08:15 AM (A3tpD)

84

The citizens of NYC are fat. Shoveling snow is just the first step to a healthy, happy lifestyle. They'll thank me in the end. Michelle O'bama and I will soon have the entire country living a life they can actually be proud of.

 

Posted by: M. Bloomberg, joo extroadinair at December 30, 2010 08:16 AM (pr+up)

85 Let me tell you, it's a real treat walking around seeing cars still buried in snow and all the holiday trash piled up on the sidewalks. It really lifts your spirits going into the new year and makes you proud to live here.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 30, 2010 08:17 AM (mHQ7T)

86 #66 - Tattoo De Plane Wait - if 400 people were fired from a Union gig, wouldn't they be the least senior people, and thus the least-trained people, leaving the 100 most experienced folks on the job (well, longest in the job, anyway)? That's how my stupid union works. Who did get fired, thus leaving the rookies on the job?

Posted by: Infidel Librarian at December 30, 2010 08:17 AM (rpLB1)

87

When the snow starts a-fallin',     
There's a man you should be callin':     
That's KL5-4796.     
Let it ring!     
Mr. Plow is a loser     
And I think he is a boozer.
So you better make that call to the Plow King!

Posted by: Linda Ronstadt at December 30, 2010 08:19 AM (S5YRY)

88 Wait - if 400 people were fired from a Union gig....

Fired is different than layed off. Yes if layed off, junior people go first. If firing is in order, usually management goes after (gets book on) the senior people because they cost the most.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose© at December 30, 2010 08:20 AM (0q2P7)

89 But multiple Sanitation Department sources told The Post yesterday that angry plow drivers have only been clearing streets assigned to them even if that means they have to drive through snowed-in roads with their plows raised.

And they are keeping their plow blades unusually high, making it necessary for them to have to run extra passes, adding time and extra pay.

One mechanic said some drivers are purposely smashing plows and salt spreaders to further stall the cleanup effort.

Fraud, extortion, vandalism, and general laziness and ineptitude are all standard hallmarks of public-service unions.  Now we can add negligent homicide to the list.

Throw all the bastards out and then sue them into oblivion.  Throw some of the supervisors in jail for good measure.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 30, 2010 08:21 AM (9hSKh)

90 Remember that video of the front-end loader being towed into the side of an Explorer (which turned out to belong to the city?) Maybe that was a Job Action instead of abject stupidity.

Posted by: Jeffrey Quick at December 30, 2010 08:21 AM (g9neE)

91 Nothing like sponging biting, biting, then ripping off the hand that feeds you.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose© at December 30, 2010 08:23 AM (0q2P7)

92

The snow acted stupidly.

 

 

Posted by: B.H. O'deary at December 30, 2010 08:23 AM (pr+up)

93 Fire them all.

Posted by: Iblis at December 30, 2010 08:25 AM (7IdP1)

94

Poppin'Fresh doesn't believe any story that would require him to get the least bit riled at "our noble political opponents".....

 

TepidAir grants a RiNO its wings every time a bell rings.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 30, 2010 08:26 AM (kq1lG)

95 This Winter of Discontent thing sucks, doesn't it?

Posted by: Callaghan's Britain at December 30, 2010 08:26 AM (hF6Nm)

96

95 Iblis,

nah just decimate them....

 

have Nanny Bloomberg mc caesar send one of every ten sanitation employees to run the gauntlet.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 30, 2010 08:27 AM (kq1lG)

97

For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of the NYC Sanitation Dept.

 

Posted by: Meechelle O. at December 30, 2010 08:27 AM (pr+up)

98 This unforced error could not have come at a greater time.

If I were the mother of that poor baby that had died, I would sue everyone in sight.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at December 30, 2010 08:27 AM (tETqd)

99 Public sector unions are evil. Fuck 'em. I got no problem with private sector unions. They at least have the discipline of the market if they bleed their host company to death. But there's no natural force to counter the greed and scumbaggery of the public unions. Public sector unions just constantly rape the rest of society then pause to get a sandwich then go back to the raping.

Public sector unions should be illegal. They were illegal for most of American history and we did fine. There is no need for them. They should get civil servant protections so they can't be fired willy-nilly when a new party takes power, but that's it. Destroy the public sector unions and salt the earth where they sprang from so it never happens again. They are a malignant cancer on the American people.

Posted by: bobbo at December 30, 2010 08:28 AM (BXqkH)

100 have Nanny Bloomberg mc caesar send one of every ten sanitation employees to run the gauntlet.

pffft.  We just disposed of the entire team if it lost.  Seems to motivate people.

Posted by: Union of Aztec ball players at December 30, 2010 08:29 AM (3ll0O)

101 @ Infidel Librarian This is from the linked article: "In the last two years, the agency's workforce has been slashed by 400 trash haulers and supervisors -- down from 6,300 -- because of the city's budget crisis. And, effective tomorrow, 100 department supervisors are to be demoted and their salaries slashed as an added cost-saving move." Doherty actually said the 400 layoffs were the reason in the NYT article. So, I don't know how they work. But Bloomberg blaming citizens for "pushing the snow back into streets that had been plowed" and abusing 911 calls (this after his vaunted 311 failed, because no one answered) takes the cake.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 30, 2010 08:29 AM (mHQ7T)

102

The snow is a fearful, bitter racist.

  

Posted by: AL Sharpton at December 30, 2010 08:29 AM (pr+up)

103 I got no problem with private sector unions. They at least have the discipline of the market if they bleed their host company to death.

You can't be serious.  GM?  Chrysler?

Posted by: pep at December 30, 2010 08:30 AM (3ll0O)

104 #100  If I were the mother of that poor baby that had died, I would sue everyone in sight.

Dumb question, but do these public service unions such as in the Sanitation Department have certain protections from litigation?  Or are the head honchos fair game?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 30, 2010 08:30 AM (9hSKh)

105 This also highlights of absurdity of things like the no labels party. Different interest groups are going to support different positions. Liberals love big unions, taking from people and empowering big government to run our lives. Conservatives believe just the opposite. There is no reconciling these views, there is only a battle of the ideas. Frum and his ilk who want me to neuter my opposition to this crap can kiss my brown starfish.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 30, 2010 08:31 AM (TMB3S)

106 Well then, that explains why they hit 21st Street in Astoria five or six times after it had already been cleared, while completely ignoring the lesser streets that intersected it-except for Tuesday night when three plow tracks sat idling on my street for four fricken hours.  Bonus: They did not even plow it.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at December 30, 2010 08:32 AM (o2QOm)

107 Ed is skeptical because he is a bit of a handwringing squish.  Nice guy, but not exactly a conservative kamikaze, IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at December 30, 2010 08:34 AM (o2QOm)

108 pffft. We just disposed of the entire team if it lost. Seems to motivate people. Posted by: Union of Aztec ball players at December 30, 2010 01:29 PM (3ll0O) Bereave me. It work with North Korean Worrd Cup soccer team too. It rearry work.

Posted by: Kim Jong-Il at December 30, 2010 08:34 AM (et42O)

109 Nothing will be done.  It's New York.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 30, 2010 12:57 PM (o3bYL)

 

Exactly, those bastards have too many politicians in their pocket.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 30, 2010 08:35 AM (1Jaio)

110 Well, maybe if you all were using less salt in your food,we'd have more to use to clear the snow?

Posted by: Nanny Bloomberg at December 30, 2010 08:35 AM (KDTMm)

111 Grab your popcorn, this is an interesting read. August 12, 2008 Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg today launched the Climate Change Adaptation Task Force.... is made up of City and State agencies, authorities and private companies that operate, maintain, or control critical infrastructure in New York City.  (I would say epic FAIL, but that's just me).....  "The Rockefeller Foundation is proud to help New Yorkers blueprint and build a more sustainable future as a part of our $70 million commitment to strengthen community resilience to climate change," said Peter Madonia, the Rockefeller Foundation's Chief Operating Officer.  (70 freakin' million and they cannot shovel the effing snow????)  Experts at Columbia University's Earth Institute are pleased to offer scientific and technical expertise to assist the City of New York (you need experts to know how to move snow a few feet?)  ..... said Cynthia Rosenzweig, Senior Research Scientist and Co-Chair of the City Panel on Climate Change. "It is our hope that cities in the United States and around the world will use New York City's planning process as a model to respond effectively to climate change challenges."  (hahahahaha)  ..... there is more but you have to read this Academic/Government Bureaucrap official press release to believe it. http://tinyurl.com/22u2ceh     Oh before I forget, "Heck of a job Brownie Bloomberg

Posted by: political correctness czar at December 30, 2010 08:37 AM (UPNlB)

112 Our snow-cleanup budget is being redressed for more suitable city concerns given the scourge of global warming. Union workers are being retrained at donut halls.

Posted by: Smart Gubment Lib at December 30, 2010 08:37 AM (gbCNS)

113 I thought it was rough getting outta NY before... but this is a nightmare!

Posted by: Snake Pliskin at December 30, 2010 08:39 AM (KDTMm)

114 Thanks Tattoo - and Mike. It still sounds like the cuts were budget-driven layoffs, rather than firings. It's really hard to get fired when you're in a union, barring being caught with a dead hooker in your office or stealing from the cash register. Even then, the union would probably go to bat for you. Especially where the union is that entrenched.

Posted by: Infidel Librarian at December 30, 2010 08:41 AM (rpLB1)

115 But New York has the theater, the Statue of Liberty....!

(/dumbfuck telling me why its so great to live there)

Posted by: nickless at December 30, 2010 08:42 AM (MMC8r)

116 117 But New York has the theater, the Statue of Liberty....!

(/dumbfuck telling me why its so great to live there)

Now, bear in mind, none of us has been in New York before. There are the Broadway shows - we'll have to find out how to get tickets. There's also a lot of street crime, but I believe we can watch that for free.

Posted by: Brain Gremlin at December 30, 2010 08:46 AM (q4iSM)

117 "Snitch" is the word of criminals and gangsters.

Posted by: SGT Ted at December 30, 2010 08:47 AM (arV2e)

118

Open the floodgates for these sanitation jobs to immigrants from Ireland--they'll be thankful to escape their underwater homes and can be paid in whiskey.   

Mother of God, this stuff is criminal--someone tell me why again city services shouldn't be privatized? 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 30, 2010 08:54 AM (3iMgs)

119 "Snitch" is the word of criminals and gangsters.

Posted by: SGT Ted at December 30, 2010 01:47 PM (arV2e)

So when discussing Unions and Newspapers, it fits

Posted by: Oldcat at December 30, 2010 08:57 AM (z1N6a)

120 What I think is funny is how all the folks form NY used to laugh about all those folks in the South who "couldn't drive in the snow".

How's my ass taste guys?

Posted by: Vic at December 30, 2010 09:04 AM (M9Ie6)

121

If their deliberate slowdown resulted in the death of a baby, that Union needs to be sued out of existence.

Posted by: Sam Adams at December 30, 2010 09:08 AM (GkYyh)

122

So, Unions are free to hold entire cities hostage in a weather emergency, even if it costs LIVES?

The day is coming when we are going to need to go to WAR against these worthless, lazy Communist thugs....

Posted by: Sam Adams at December 30, 2010 09:12 AM (GkYyh)

123 Union thugs at work  on the clock staging a slowdown? Na their better than that.

Posted by: Buffalobob at December 30, 2010 09:15 AM (GwH6h)

124 My hope is the snow builds so deep the entire festering island sinks.

Posted by: Barbarian at December 30, 2010 09:15 AM (EL+OC)

125 I thought I had plumbed the depths of not caring about new yorker's but have just found there is a reserve within all non-new yorkers which may be tapped into for even less caring about: your city, boroughs and residents.

Get me a juice box, bitches.


Posted by: 13times at December 30, 2010 09:20 AM (h6XiD)

126 Forget who said it, but it fits;

"If someone had told Bloomberg that New Yorkers were having fun in the snow, he would have cleared it in two hours"

Posted by: kbdabear at December 30, 2010 09:25 AM (vdfwz)

127 How squishy is Allah?

He knows where SE Cupp lives, knows she was snowed in, yet still he spent his time looking at Frum or Meggie Mac's Tweets

Posted by: kbdabear at December 30, 2010 09:30 AM (vdfwz)

128 If their deliberate slowdown resulted in the death of a baby, that Union needs to be sued out of existence.

That isn't the way it works. Under these type of situations the only ones held accountable are the taxpayers.

Posted by: Vic at December 30, 2010 09:32 AM (M9Ie6)

129 I'm pretty goddamn sick of the goddamn selfish prick unions, that's what I am.

Was I supposed to say "I disapprove of their actions and believe that they need to behave more constructively?"

We seriously need to rescind Kennedy's action and ban public-sector unions, they are nothing but damage and we couldn't afford them even if they ever accidentally did anything good.

Posted by: Merovign, Strong on His Mountain at December 30, 2010 09:37 AM (bxiXv)

130 Ed's a moderate/liberal - period. He even claims to be Catholic, but doesn't follow their teachings. I don't know - maybe angling for a spot on morning joe or co host with frum.

Posted by: Dr. Eviler at December 30, 2010 09:53 AM (HvCPS)

131 Wow, I'm going to show this article to my co-workers...as soon as they wake up from their naps.

Posted by: State Employee at December 30, 2010 09:54 AM (QdxaI)

132 Why is Morrissey skeptical?

Because he's become a squishy metrosexual like you and Allah.

~~~~~~

With Christine O'Donnell back in the news for possibly improperly using campaign monies, as I predicted, it is once again time to poke the stupid people who refused to see her defects and chided those of us not blind to them (because, like, dude, we'd seen pretty girls run scams before).

Her real problem was not getting Gingrich's support before running.  How's a witch going to run with the aye of Newt?

Posted by: Adjoran at December 30, 2010 10:36 AM (VfmLu)

133 The last line should be "withOUT" of course - curse this cheap antique software with no preview or edit function . . .

Posted by: Adjoran at December 30, 2010 10:37 AM (VfmLu)

134 A baby died in the lobby of an apartment building after ambulances couldn't get there for hours.  That makes these union thugs baby killers.  Firing isn't good enough for them.  Hang them from the lampposts as warnings to the rest of the public service sector.

This was my very first reaction when I read about the slowdown.  It made me physically ill.  I'm not a mommy, but I am a proud aunt, and just the thought of sitting in a lobby holding one of my nephews as this took place made my skin crawl. 

I bet this story is why some came forward, though.  Easy to sit around Dunkin' Doughnuts just followin' orders while not considering the repercussions, but if you actually have a fucking soul, this can can tighten up a conscious real quick.

They need to import Chistie to take care of this.

Posted by: Filly at December 30, 2010 11:07 AM (b6TLa)

135 With Christine O'Donnell back in the news for possibly improperly using campaign monies, as I predicted,

Posted by: Adjoran at December 30, 2010 03:36 PM (VfmLu)

It's beyond a joke for the FEC to be investigating anyone if they haven't even looked into The Precedent's illegal acceptance of anonymous donations (only possible because he criminally turned off the AVS on his web site's credit card transactions) and his incredibly illegal, un-American and unbelievable campaign rally in a foreign nation, for foreigners!  That should have landed him right in jail.

I don't care what O'Donnell did or didn't do.  Until there's a serious investigation of the Indonesian Imbecile (although his guilt is right out in the open) and a serious criminal trial, or two, it's a joke for them to investigate anyone else.  It would be nice if conservatives would keep pushing this very important point, instead of whining about O'Donnell, whose whole campaign was 1/100th the size of the Indonesians and didn't offend the core of America by going overseas, illegally, with it.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at December 30, 2010 11:10 AM (G/MYk)

136 Not only fire them, seize their pensions! That'll send a message they'll never forget!

Posted by: Iblis at December 30, 2010 11:10 AM (7IdP1)

137 Please God! Dump another four feet atop of that City! I don't ask for much!

Posted by: Jimi at December 30, 2010 11:10 AM (fqxV7)

138 More: Hm, not sure why Ed is skeptical. Reading on, I see the NYPost has verified the story, mostly, from independent sources in the sanitation department:

Really? Ace, I know you love those guys (Ed & Allah) like I love you but ...unlike us they're assholes.They've turned a formally great site into a bunch of dorky irreverent drivel.

Posted by: Oh, Hi Mark at December 30, 2010 11:35 AM (20jSL)

139 Ed is not the intellectual equal of his equine namesake.

Posted by: MarkD at December 30, 2010 11:54 AM (0Jy1K)

140 Really? Ace, I know you love those guys (Ed & Allah) like I love you but ...unlike us they're assholes.They've turned a formally great site into a bunch of dorky irreverent drivel.

For real.  When Michelle Malkin still owned it, the posts were relevant, Ed and Allah at least chose a side and stuck to it.  Now, it's a bunch of white-bread-and-bologna nonsense.  Sad, too.  HotAir was the first blog I ever followed closely.

Posted by: antisocialist at December 30, 2010 12:00 PM (Rwudm)

141 Ah...I didn't realize Malkin wasn't with HotAir anymore...that explains a lot.  I used to really like Ed back at Captain's Quarters, when he would regularly tear gaping holes in the Left's anti-Iraq BS.  Lately, though, it's like he's been spreading himself too thin to say anything particularly insightful about any given topic.  He's still got it occasionally, but not at the "required reading" level it used to be.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at December 30, 2010 12:44 PM (Y5I9o)

142 Too bad ya got a pussy for a mayor who won't fire the lot.  Oh wait, we all have pussies for mayors.  Fuck us again.

Posted by: motionview at December 30, 2010 03:18 PM (WtqrF)

143 I know a Dept. of Sanitation guy, New York City, retired. He's 58 now.

He was able to retire at age 45 with a full pension.

Jimmy says when he WAS working, he could get his route done in three hours, then he'd go to the union break room and get drunk with the rest of the garbagemen.

"Great jobs. Made good money. Enough to buy a house, raise a family. I can't complain. Life is good," he says. He works a part-time job now, just to stave off boredom, not because he needs the dough.

So, do the math: He works SEVEN YEARS TOTAL for LIFETIME SECURITY.

And they STILL WANT MORE $$$ ???

Oh, yeah, they definitely did a slowdown. And Bloomerpants definitely skimped on the preparations, too: not calling in workers and paying them holiday + overtime wages. Result? a total balls-up.


Posted by: Beverly at December 30, 2010 09:00 PM (g8FBW)

144 And yes, the Dept. of Sanitation and ALL trash-hauling companies in the city of New York are either owned or menaced by the Mafia.

Bloomerpants doesn't begin to have the balls Giuliani did, so there's no way Midget Mike will tackle the Mob on this. He'll whine, maybe appoint a commission, whatever, but he's going to do jack about it.

Besides, it's not like he's going to buy the mayoralty a FOURTH time.

Why did New Yorkers vote for him? Because we had a wonderful choice of him, or the Stalinist Mark Green, or the racist Freddy "La Raza" Ferrer. They all suck moose dick.

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Posted by: ngekngok at December 31, 2010 06:22 AM (K///b)

146

There are over 50 million illegal Free-Loaders in this country draining its resources dry. But no mention of the Tax Billions per year spent to support them.

Now that the Baby Boomers are reaching SS & Medicare age, suddenly, the system is broke and unsustainable. 

Because States and Cites have given over much needed and scarce tax revenues to the illegal's and slackers Civil Service Salaries, Pensions and Benefits are now unsustainable.

Oh, I forgot, it's not PC to mention that Illegal's and Slackers drain most of the resources from states and cities while the Baby Boomers and the Civil Servants actively contribute work and tax monies.

Put the blame where it belongs folks, with the Nanny State Politicians. 

 

  

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