September 29, 2014

Neil DeGrasse Tyson: Maybe You Can't Find That Anti-Muslim Quote I Claimed Bush Said in Any So-Called "Newspapers" or "Official Records," But I Cite the Highest Authority Possible for It: Me
— Ace

That's a parody headline, but that's pretty much what he says:

Ignore the written record. My memory is an Awesome Thing that should not be easily contradicted.

Let's move on to the Bush quote, which is where things get really bad. To Sean’s request that Tyson verify the quote he’s been using against the former president, Tyson notes that September 11th affected him "deeply" and adds:

I have explicit memory of those words being spoken by the President. I reacted on the spot, making note for possible later reference in my public discourse. Odd that nobody seems to be able to find the quote anywhere -- surely every word publicly uttered by a President gets logged.

Yes, surely, Doctor Science.

But you say you have an explicit memory! Well my stars and garters, I didn't know you had an explicit memory!

Explicit memories are scientifically proven to be much more reliable than plain ol' memories.

So ignore the evidence -- Take my word for it. I'm a Scientist.

He goes on to say:


FYI: There are two kinds of failures of memory. One is remembering that which has never happened and the other is forgetting that which did. In my case, from life experience, I’m vastly more likely to forget an incident than to remember an incident that never happened. So I assure you, the quote is there somewhere. When you find it, tell me. Then I can offer it to others who have taken as much time as you to explore these things.

I am infallible, so ignore the evidence as documented by thousands of disinterested reporters and transcribers in the government, who write down and publish the president's words every single day.

This is all terribly scientific.

Here's What I Know About Memory: I hate to argue with a Scientist, but what I've gathered from actual science is that "memory" is actually very misconceived. We think of it like the memory of a tape recording or video recording.

It's nothing of the sort. It is certain associations (probably involving some basic keywords, like elemental notions of basic nouns and basic concepts like "direction towards" or "direction away" and "happy" and "scared") networked together in the brain as having been implicated together at one time.

When we "remember," we do not replay a tape of past events in our brain. Instead, what we do is conjure up a new narrative, make a new story for ourselves, from the embedded and networked keywords and associations.

Memory changes over time, as we re-conjure images and experiences. Sometimes new parts get added, and others subtracted.

Sometimes we add new parts that were never part of the actual experience at all and make the "memory" about something that never actually even happened.

Surely Tyson is not so completely ignorant of cognitive science that he thinks an "explicit memory" is infallible...?

Even the way Tyson speaks is anti-scientific.

A long time ago, when I was a kid, I had a very explicit memory that a certain cartoon animal was a certain color.

I actually got in a physical fight with a friend over this animal's color. My friend said the animal was one color; but I had an explicit memory of it being a different color.

He was so stupid with his Wrong Color Naming that I got angry and we got to scrappin'.

A year later I saw the cartoon again.

The animal's color? Precisely the color my friend claimed it to have been.

Precisely not the color I had claimed it to have been.

The problem was that I was remembering part of one cartoon animal -- his type, his name, his basic shape and silhouette -- but then remembering a different cartoon animal's color.

My memory glitched, and put together three correct associations (type, name, shape) with a fourth erroneous association (color).

When did this happen? Why did neurons get crossed here?

Who knows -- maybe one time when I re-conjured the image of the cartoon animal, I forgot the color, and my brain, seeking to fill in the blanks, took the color from another cartoon animal. Having a "void" in the memory bank for color, my brain took its best guess and filled the animal's shape with what seemed a plausible color.

And then, whenever I "remembered" that cartoon animal, I "remembered" the three correct attributes with the one false attribute my brain had conjured up in a pinch.

Anyway, as a six-year-old boy, I learned something about memory that the World's Greatest Scientist Neil DeGrasse Tyson is still ignorant of.

Posted by: Ace at 11:30 AM | Comments (521)
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1 The Sinbad of Science strikes again.

Posted by: garrett at September 29, 2014 11:26 AM (eDzTL)

2 I very  much want to vomit over the fact that this man heads a planetarium.  The left exorcises those of us who are people of faith for being "unreasonable," but this fuckin' guy, he's the pinnacle of The Smartz.

Posted by: Filly at September 29, 2014 11:27 AM (6O2H2)

3 I have an explicit memory of me, Kate Hudson and a bowl of lime Jell-O, yet now I have this restraining order against me. But my memory says otherwise!

Posted by: GuyfromNH at September 29, 2014 11:27 AM (kbOju)

4 Eff the absent minded prof and EFF Ohio!!!!


Posted by: dananjcon at September 29, 2014 11:28 AM (NpXoL)

5 Dan Rather, deja vue!

Posted by: ALH at September 29, 2014 11:28 AM (yAPdC)

6 So I assure you, the quote is there somewhere. When you find it, tell me. Then I can offer it to others who have taken as much time as you to explore these things. ******** wow--he's so humble!

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River guide at September 29, 2014 11:29 AM (RJMhd)

7 Dear lord, what a pretentious douche bag.

Posted by: Adam at September 29, 2014 11:29 AM (HstNY)

8 Yes, surely, Doctor Science.

Look out, RuPaul! There's a new asshole in town.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at September 29, 2014 11:30 AM (sDQnB)

9 I reacted on the spot, making note for possible later reference in my public discourse. I said to myself, 'self - make a note of this.'. Therefore, I can only assume I got it correct. That's not me talking. That's Fucking Science.

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 11:30 AM (eDzTL)

10 does his explicit memory include a time or day?

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at September 29, 2014 11:30 AM (Xr7hz)

11 The Sinbad of Science Threadwinner! Close it up.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at September 29, 2014 11:30 AM (+/X+n)

12 If the quote ws out therethe left would have been trumpeting it for years about " stoopid Boosh!".

Posted by: steevy at September 29, 2014 11:30 AM (v5UtH)

13 Dude, do you even memory ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 29, 2014 11:30 AM (d1eAc)

14 I have explicit memory of those words being spoken by the President. I reacted on the spot, making note for possible later reference in my public discourse. *** Interesting, because I'm sure Mr DeGrasse remembers when he told me he'd give me a thousand bucks. No? Well, I have an explicit memory of it...so pay up Mr Not the Science Guy.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2014 11:31 AM (5DM9u)

15 Read the WaPo Volokh Conspiracy article in the side bar.  This has moved along a bit further than protrayed above.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 29, 2014 11:31 AM (PMGbu)

16 11 The Sinbad of Science



Threadwinner!
Close it up.

Seconded.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 29, 2014 11:31 AM (wtvvX)

17 So, phony but accurate?  Or just accurate but somebody erased the internet?

Posted by: George Orwell at September 29, 2014 11:31 AM (1BQGO)

18 To be fair, that's another Moron's work. I just stole it.

Posted by: garrett at September 29, 2014 11:31 AM (eDzTL)

19 SO we have to take it on *faith* that this scientist heard what he says he heard.

I thought faith was for stoopid people. Wicked smarties can back up what they believe with evidence an analysis and stuff.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2014 11:31 AM (D/504)

20 Obviously seared into his memory.

Posted by: Jon Carey at September 29, 2014 11:32 AM (dvRYt)

21 The scientific method circa 2014: 1) Somebody with an import title, like "Talks about science on TV", says something 2) Everyone considers it to be proven. 3) Profit

Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2014 11:32 AM (5DM9u)

22 I have explicit memory of Pluto being a planet.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at September 29, 2014 11:32 AM (U4SLf)

23 You know, when Sagan turned to marijuana, his memory eventually left him batshit crazy too.

Posted by: Fritz at September 29, 2014 11:32 AM (UzPAd)

24 That memory is seared, seared in me....

Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 29, 2014 11:32 AM (wtvvX)

25 NDT is the epitome of what science has become in these times.

Posted by: Soona at September 29, 2014 11:32 AM (DkhX8)

26 So It Is Spoken, So Let It Be Done.

Posted by: Ramses Tyson at September 29, 2014 11:32 AM (J7NUM)

27 Bush didn't say exactly what I said he said but he meant what I said he said so I was right. - - Tyson's Museum of Famous Quotes Archivist.

Posted by: Dizzie's Spinning Top News Service at September 29, 2014 11:33 AM (aK1xA)

28 little known NDT factoid: he observed Al Gore's mom singing Al Gore "look for the union label" song as bed time song. Just think, this guy can help revolutionize democrat lies. Anytime they make something up, he can just say he was there and saw it.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at September 29, 2014 11:33 AM (Xr7hz)

29 What a tosser.

Posted by: HoboJerk, Re-branded at September 29, 2014 11:33 AM (FA3Z7)

30 Mr. Tyson also fails to note a third failure of memory, that being the failure to correctly remember the details of an event.

Posted by: NewEnglandDevil at September 29, 2014 11:33 AM (wQ2bk)

31 I did not sex up that quote, Mr Trende

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse at September 29, 2014 11:33 AM (5DM9u)

32 Isn't that jerk the host of F_ckin' Cosmos?

Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 29, 2014 11:33 AM (wtvvX)

33 Big Bang Theory; Sheldon tells NDT he does not like him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3DlNZRAlms

Posted by: kbdabear at September 29, 2014 11:33 AM (aTXUx)

34 "I assure you..." That's it. Drop a safe on this smug douchebag's head.

Posted by: AngelEm at September 29, 2014 11:33 AM (FvZtE)

35 It's not a lie if you believe it.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2014 11:34 AM (g1DWB)

36 I seem to have a clear memory of Booossshhh falling all over himself to make Muslims feel better about themselves.

Posted by: Adam at September 29, 2014 11:34 AM (HstNY)

37 He's got a photoshopped memory.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at September 29, 2014 11:34 AM (KkxTF)

38 Admitting bad methodology and faulty data is unscientific .

Posted by: AGW Cultists nodding vigorously Jon Carey at September 29, 2014 11:34 AM (dvRYt)

39 When you find it, tell me. Ah, the New Scienceishic Method.

Posted by: it's in the back somewhere at September 29, 2014 11:34 AM (IFKzP)

40 When you're explaining, you're losing. When you're explaining "explicit memory," Science is losing. For the love of Science, quit killing it!

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 29, 2014 11:34 AM (1CroS)

41 Dude, I do not truth.

Posted by: Neil DeAss Tyson at September 29, 2014 11:34 AM (HstNY)

42 So Tyson's memory gets refocused by his bias. Much like the Left being convinced that Bush told them 'You're either with us or against us' when he said no such thing. They remember sloppily, and their twisted world view casts it for them in a funhouse mirror. Consider what 'scientists' like Tyson are doing with things like AGW.

Posted by: --- at September 29, 2014 11:35 AM (MMC8r)

43 Uh, yeah, he's full of crap. False or inaccurate memories are very easy to form because of bias or suggestion. That's Psych 101 stuff. What utter garbage.

Posted by: Thorrison at September 29, 2014 11:35 AM (AVWYi)

44 How come all the wrong people get beheaded and this jerk is still talking? What's with that?

Posted by: Post Modern Realism at September 29, 2014 11:35 AM (oDCMR)

45 For the love of Science, quit killing it! ___ We had to destroy the village to save it.

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 11:35 AM (5DM9u)

46 First rule of Black holes. When you find yourself in one....... stop digging.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 29, 2014 11:35 AM (NaV4z)

47 Photoshopic memory sounds better.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at September 29, 2014 11:35 AM (KkxTF)

48 He should take his infallible memory act to Vegas.

Solid. Gold.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 29, 2014 11:35 AM (wtvvX)

49 One of the things I like about Gene Wolfe's works are that he plays around with memory - and he points out that a character with a perfect memory is *not* an impartial observer. Its kind of like the Heisenberg uncertainty thinger where they have ONE of the perspectives so the other one goes kablooey.

Posted by: Bigby's Wringing Hands at September 29, 2014 11:36 AM (3ZtZW)

50 Quote-Denier!

Posted by: Chuck Todd at September 29, 2014 11:36 AM (rCS6C)

51 In the old days, we called people like this Lying Sacks of Shit. Maybe we should modernize it, and just call them Progressives.

Posted by: rd at September 29, 2014 11:36 AM (J7NUM)

52 "When you find it, tell me. Then I can offer it to others who have taken as much time as you to explore these things."

That's rich - turning his lie into an assignment for the person who pointed it out.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2014 11:36 AM (D/504)

53 And remember, absence of evidence is not equal to evidence of absence. I wish I were joking, but Tyson actually invoked that truism to imply that we'll need to prove Bush didn't say it, not just question whether he did. Burden's on us to prove a negative. Because science.

Posted by: JPS at September 29, 2014 11:36 AM (93hpQ)

54 They remember sloppily, and their twisted world view casts it for them in a funhouse mirror. ___ H8ter. If you believe it will become true

Posted by: The Left at September 29, 2014 11:36 AM (5DM9u)

55 Maybe he has a phototropic memory?

Posted by: garrett at September 29, 2014 11:36 AM (eDzTL)

56 Yeah Neil dumbass Tyson I believe people have found the actual evidence of Bush saying this. And of course it's dumbass that is wrong. It got mentioned on the podcast that covered all his inconsistencies. Bush was quoting or paraphrasing the bible and it wasn't about 9/11 at all. But sure thing buddy your memory is definitely right.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 29, 2014 11:37 AM (z/Ubi)

57 It's not a lie if you believe it. I have a million dollars in my checking account....

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at September 29, 2014 11:37 AM (+/X+n)

58 NDT: "So I assure you, the quote is there somewhere. When you find it, tell me." Ahahaha! Do my homework for me and please bail me out. I know I don't have the facts but maybe you all can invent some for me.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 29, 2014 11:37 AM (1CroS)

59 I have never heard of this story before. Then again up until last week I had never heard of gamergate either. It is funny though.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 29, 2014 11:37 AM (0LHZx)

60 Do they have to lie about everything? Breaking News @BreakingNews 10m Man who scaled White House fence made it farther into building than previously known, sources tell @washingtonpost http://wapo.st/1pCRVL7

Posted by: Costanza Defense at September 29, 2014 11:37 AM (ZPrif)

61 In fairness it should be noted that Carl Sagan was also a pompous, bogus, insufferable prick.

Posted by: Edgar Allen Schmoe at September 29, 2014 11:37 AM (iG049)

62 Btw, this is old, and Tyson has since said, oh, right I got it wrong.

Posted by: blaster at September 29, 2014 11:37 AM (OYEUO)

63

Albert Einstien: So, you look smart what do you do?

ND Tyson: I head a planetarium.

AE: Oh. I see. How sciency. You must be *giggle* like super smart

ND Tyson: Yes. I am explicit smart

AE: No shit.*Giggle* What time does the gift shop open Mr. Wizard?

Posted by: Jollyroger at September 29, 2014 11:38 AM (t06LC)

64 So Tyson's memory gets refocused by his bias. Much like the Left being convinced that Bush told them 'You're either with us or against us' when he said no such thing. They remember sloppily, and their twisted world view casts it for them in a funhouse mirror. Bush might not have said it, but that is how they did it.

Posted by: rd at September 29, 2014 11:38 AM (J7NUM)

65 That's rich - turning his lie into an assignment for the person who pointed it out. *** Liberals do that rather often. I guess we are starting to see the way the lefty collective thinks and acts on the internet now coming into play in the real world.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2014 11:38 AM (5DM9u)

66 False or inaccurate memories are very easy to form because of bias or suggestion. That's Psych 101 stuff. What utter garbage. ---- Seeing and hearing things no one else did are also called something else in Psych 101. Hallucinations.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 29, 2014 11:38 AM (NaV4z)

67 Even I am smarter than this guy. Where's the paste Neil?

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 29, 2014 11:38 AM (WGm5T)

68 You know what's even bitchier? The oh well now that the quote was found. Yeah. Found. Because Sean Davis didn't include the quote in the original post or anything.

Posted by: alexthechick - Team Ebola Zombie at September 29, 2014 11:38 AM (mf5HN)

69 Funny how the "scientific method" is conveniently abandoned by "scientists"...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 29, 2014 11:39 AM (wtvvX)

70 There are two types of bullshitting.  One where the person knows he is perpetrating a fraud and another where he convinces himself that his fraud is true.  I assure you that in my case it is explicitly the latter.

Posted by: Thatch on Grass Tyson at September 29, 2014 11:39 AM (m/nBa)

71 Hah....Sinbad of Science. luv it.

Posted by: eleven at September 29, 2014 11:39 AM (7Y6v2)

72 If Dubs had said anything vaguely resembling "Our God is better than your god" the media would never have let it die.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at September 29, 2014 11:39 AM (XUKZU)

73 This is just sad.

Posted by: Chris Balsz at September 29, 2014 11:39 AM (pYEaj)

74 Tyson's quoting process is faith-based.

Posted by: --- at September 29, 2014 11:39 AM (MMC8r)

75 Maybe he has a phototropic memory? More like psychotropic memory.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at September 29, 2014 11:39 AM (+/X+n)

76 Do they have to lie about everything? *** Have to? No. Enjoy doing so? Hell yes!

Posted by: The Left at September 29, 2014 11:39 AM (5DM9u)

77 Who is this dude exactly? I've seen him on TV before. But what makes him an expert on anything? Or is he like Kim Kardashean...she's famous for being famous....he's an expert because he's an expert.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 29, 2014 11:40 AM (0LHZx)

78 Funny how the "scientific method" is conveniently abandoned by "scientists"... - Like "journalism" was abandon by "journalists."

Posted by: The Great White Snark at September 29, 2014 11:40 AM (XUKZU)

79 .... I also heard Sarah Palin say she could see Russia from her house.

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 11:40 AM (NaV4z)

80 "I have explicit memory of those words being spoken by the President. I reacted on the spot, making note for possible later reference in my public discourse. Odd that nobody seems to be able to find the quote anywhere -- surely every word publicly uttered by a President gets logged." ------- You know what's even more odd? 1. That your explicit memory can't remember when or where the President made those remarks. 2. That you had incredible foresight to "note it" because it might come up in "public discourse" such as now. That's pretty damn convenient.

Posted by: WisRich at September 29, 2014 11:40 AM (hdpay)

81 What a tool this guy is.

Posted by: Thurston Howell IIII at September 29, 2014 11:40 AM (sta+V)

82 Maybe he's coming down with Alzheimer's.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at September 29, 2014 11:40 AM (PZ6/M)

83 Well played sir, WELL PLAYED!

So all you realists going to believe my fake but accurate bullshit know a sciency guy said it or are you racist science deniers?

Posted by: Dan Rather at September 29, 2014 11:40 AM (WGm5T)

84 Folks, I'm often asked about my qualifications.  Well, I may not have a lot of "credentials" or "training", but I can tell you one thing - I'm a PhD in pain.  Now let me show you how you can change your life.

Posted by: Brad Goodman at September 29, 2014 11:40 AM (uhMMS)

85 Weird phrasing -- so the dude just ran over the female guard? Seems like WaPost is trying to avoid saying that the dude ran over her. WaPost: The man who jumped the White House fence this month and sprinted through the front door made it much farther into the building than previously known, overpowering one Secret Service officer and running through much of the main floor, according to three people familiar with the incident. An alarm box near the front entrance of the White House designed to alert guards to an intruder had been muted at what officers believed was a request of the usher's office, said a Secret Service official who spoke on the condition of anonymity. The female officer posted inside the front door appeared to be delayed in learning that the intruder, Omar Gonzalez, was about to burst through. Officers are trained that, upon learning of an intruder on the grounds, often through the alarm boxes posted around the property, they must immediately lock the front door. After barrelling past the guard immediately inside the door, Gonzalez, who was carrying a knife, dashed past the stairway leading a half-flight up to the first family's living quarters. He then ran into the 80-foot-long East Room, an ornate space often used for receptions or presidential addresses.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at September 29, 2014 11:40 AM (ZPrif)

86 Much ado about nothing. But we must take down Neil DeGrasse Tyson! How dare he believe in science that we don't like!!!

Posted by: Really? at September 29, 2014 11:41 AM (ibvmu)

87 Apparently his claim to fame is getting Pluto degraded form a planet to a dwarf planet. He degraded a planet.

Posted by: eleven at September 29, 2014 11:41 AM (7Y6v2)

88 Neil DeGrasse Tyson: Scientician.

Posted by: toby928(C) at September 29, 2014 11:41 AM (rwI+c)

89 It is to laugh.

Posted by: kathysaysso at September 29, 2014 11:41 AM (jPT60)

90 "So ignore the evidence -- Take my word for it. I'm a Scientist."

It's the Buckaroo Banzai Defense.

"Back off man. I'm a scientist."

Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2014 11:41 AM (noWW6)

91 86 Much ado about nothing. But we must take down Neil DeGrasse Tyson! How dare he believe in science that we don't like!!! Posted by: Really? at September 29, 2014 04:41 PM (ibvmu) _____________ LOL. It's always much ado about nothing when leftists lie.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 29, 2014 11:42 AM (0LHZx)

92 Neil DeGrasse Tyson once told me that he'd let me give him a Cleavland Steamer in exchange for a fila O'Fish sandwich. I know this is not documented, but I have an explicit memory of him begging to be dumped on.

Posted by: bskb at September 29, 2014 11:42 AM (4KWOY)

93 Neil takes great pride in his BS degree apparently...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 29, 2014 11:42 AM (wtvvX)

94 I explicitly remember Tyson biting Hawking's ear in the third round of a championship heavyweight rematch.

Now Stephen can only science from a wheelchair.

Posted by: Fritz at September 29, 2014 11:42 AM (UzPAd)

95 In fairness it should be noted that Carl Sagan was also a pompous, bogus, insufferable prick.

Yeah, but he had that Bob Ross "you'll get a contact high from the TV watching him" thing going, so it wasn't as noticeable.

Posted by: Paul Anka at September 29, 2014 11:42 AM (B/VB5)

96 How dare he believe in science that we don't like!!! His recent publications on human memory are ... interesting.

Posted by: toby928(C) at September 29, 2014 11:42 AM (rwI+c)

97 87 Apparently his claim to fame is getting Pluto degraded form a planet to a dwarf planet. He degraded a planet. Posted by: eleven at September 29, 2014 04:41 PM (7Y6v2) __________ So he hates dogs? Fucker!

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at September 29, 2014 11:42 AM (0LHZx)

98 It would be interesting to look into his academic work, particularly regarding footnoting.

Posted by: --- at September 29, 2014 11:43 AM (MMC8r)

99 But we must take down Neil DeGrasse Tyson! How dare he believe in science that we don't like!!! ___ You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at September 29, 2014 11:43 AM (5DM9u)

100

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool."  Richard Feynman.  But hey, what did he know?

Posted by: Thurston Howell IIII at September 29, 2014 11:43 AM (sta+V)

101

Neil deGrasse Tyson (Sort of) Admits to Misquoting George W. Bush and Agrees to (Someday) Apologize for It

 

 

 

http://bit.ly/1rFPygf

 

Chillingly, from this article:

 

Also at the time of this publication, the three-sentence Wikipedia entry for The Federalist states: "This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy."

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 29, 2014 11:43 AM (JtwS4)

102 Umm. I don't want to say "That's old, Ace", but... http://thefederalist.com/2014/09/29/its-not-the-crime-its-the-cover-up/

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 29, 2014 11:43 AM (0xTsz)

103 It's almost like there's a reason to put big, burly dudes guarding a door instead of a small woman. Cause this isn't an Action Chick movie so we should probably take into account actual Physics and hire guards to protect the White House who are physically capable of tackling an adult male.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at September 29, 2014 11:43 AM (ZPrif)

104 And the spin will be as with all spin on inaccurate reporting of quotes by the Left. Okay they may not have said those exact words but that is what they meant.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at September 29, 2014 11:43 AM (KkxTF)

105 There is incontrovertible proof that God does play dice with the universe. when you find it, tell me.

Posted by: Albert Einstein at September 29, 2014 11:43 AM (XUKZU)

106 I can get you a MS Word 2010 document of Bush saying that very same thing.

SUCK IT haters!

Posted by: Dan Rather at September 29, 2014 11:43 AM (WGm5T)

107 Let me put my explicit memory in you for the sake of science.

Posted by: NDT at September 29, 2014 11:44 AM (dvRYt)

108 Apparently his claim to fame is getting Pluto degraded form a planet to a dwarf planet. He degraded a planet. Posted by: eleven at September 29, 2014 04:41 PM (7Y6v2) __________ So he hates dogs? ----- He's f'n goofy.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at September 29, 2014 11:44 AM (+/X+n)

109 The difference between Tyson and God? God doesn't think he's Tyson.

Posted by: Some dude at September 29, 2014 11:44 AM (+FhLW)

110 Neil Ass-is-Grass Tyson must have misremembered

Posted by: Ezra Klein at September 29, 2014 11:44 AM (e8kgV)

111 But.... I have an Explicit memory of being on Mars, so I hereby Claim said Planet, as my own.

Posted by: Romeo13, King of Mars at September 29, 2014 11:44 AM (f0pWu)

112 Dr. Science...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 29, 2014 11:45 AM (wtvvX)

113 Weird phrasing -- so the dude just ran over the female guard? *** Can you imagine where we would be right now if we had competent foreign foes like the old Soviets still around? Our country is run by clowns who spend most of their time and efforts keeping the population from knowing just how stupid they are.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2014 11:45 AM (5DM9u)

114 Tyson must hate being in the same room as Sam Harris. And I bet that right now, Sam isn't so happy being there either.

Posted by: Jack at September 29, 2014 11:45 AM (53CCM)

115 Explicit memory sounds rather science-y!

Posted by: Bonobos at September 29, 2014 11:45 AM (Ph479)

116  Just a memoro...like a typo or speako.

Posted by: Chuck Todd at September 29, 2014 11:45 AM (rCS6C)

117 Pssst....try calling us 'racists.' That should work.

Posted by: --- at September 29, 2014 11:46 AM (MMC8r)

118 Our country is run by clowns who spend most of their time and efforts keeping the population from knowing just how stupid they are. 24/7 full time job.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at September 29, 2014 11:46 AM (+/X+n)

119 Only scientists have explicit memory. Only black scientists.

Posted by: Tyson at September 29, 2014 11:46 AM (53CCM)

120

In all fairness, AtC would have stopped the guy from getting inside.

 

Left jab to the nuts, standing flat-footed. Follow on throat-punch while he's bent over, also delivered flat-footed.

Posted by: ScoggDog at September 29, 2014 11:46 AM (d1eAc)

121 Dude. Go back to the planetarium. Why is it these science-spokesmen are always some self important lightweight? He's a slicker version of Comic Book Store Owner in the Simpsons for crying out loud.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 29, 2014 11:46 AM (39g3+)

122 Neil Ass-is-Grass Tyson must have an early onset of "OldTimer's Disease"

Posted by: Jodie Evans at September 29, 2014 11:46 AM (e8kgV)

123 When Sean Davis was looking for the quote, I found a Slate article that mentioned the line in question AND mentioned September 11. I have this funny feeling Mr. I Was There and Remember Stuff just read the quote in Slate and goofed up because it fit his view of Pres. Bush better.

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 29, 2014 11:47 AM (0xTsz)

124 When observation doesn't match hypothesis, make up some data!

Because, Science bitchez!

Posted by: The Cosmos Dude at September 29, 2014 11:47 AM (S0DR6)

125 He hangs with Bill Nye to seem smart.

Posted by: Bonobos at September 29, 2014 11:47 AM (Ph479)

126 I saw Explicit Memory open for Thomas Dolby at the Rockefeller in 84.

Posted by: Jukin at September 29, 2014 11:47 AM (WGm5T)

127 FUCK IT, WE'LL DO IT LIVE!

Posted by: NDT at September 29, 2014 11:47 AM (MMC8r)

128 "He was carrying a knife" previously reported as 'had a folding knife in his pocket'. I wonder which is true. Isn't this the story of Celebrity First Name, Middle Name Tyson's Chicken processing? Neil, named after a famous astronaut who first walked on the moon.

Posted by: Dizzie's Spinning Top News Service at September 29, 2014 11:47 AM (aK1xA)

129 Fuckin empirical evidence. How does it work?

Posted by: SGT York at September 29, 2014 11:48 AM (ZipfO)

130 Has anybody looked at this guy's thesis or scientific papers?

Posted by: RFR at September 29, 2014 11:48 AM (FuFVX)

131 The Costanza of statistics. The fallback is always the evil twin off the meds. Of course the tic is a tell. Hockeysticks, shinola. Book him in Vegas, baby, he seems to draw a crowd. Maybe hook him up with some dancing girls, and a magic show. Entertainment, baby.

Posted by: neal at September 29, 2014 11:48 AM (OtfKv)

132 Born: Oct 05, 1958 (age 55)

Damn, the man is 55.  He couldn't be trust 25 years ago.

Posted by: Richard Nixon at September 29, 2014 11:48 AM (e8kgV)

133 Lucy Pinder ... glasses ... SCIENCE!!! https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/516692274328383489

Posted by: kbdabear at September 29, 2014 11:48 AM (aTXUx)

134 Sometimes I misremember stuff because of all the Science that's been ejaculated into me.

Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 11:48 AM (P1WNR)

135 Nobody messes with me and gets away with it!

NOBODY!

Posted by: Pluto, the planet at September 29, 2014 11:48 AM (S0DR6)

136 "Weird phrasing -- so the dude just ran over the female guard? Seems like WaPost is trying to avoid saying that the dude ran over her."

There was the recent shipyard incident where a hostile but unarmed male goblin stormed aboard a U.S. Navy ship in port, where he immediately overpowered the female crew member who standing guard, took her sidearm from her, then fatally shot a male shipmate who was coming to her assistance.

Jeez! It's as though genetically determined physical strength matters in fights or something. Who knew?

Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2014 11:48 AM (noWW6)

137 They named a high school show after this guy, because that is his level of science and public shaming ability. And worst of all it was a canuk show.

Posted by: tinfoil baby at September 29, 2014 11:49 AM (hqVUe)

138 Times like this I miss Andrew Breitbart, who would have put a 100 thousand dollar reward up for whatever person could find proof of the BOLDFACE lie. AB knew his money was safe. Yeah, I'm f*cking looking right at you, John Lewis, you lying piece of s*it.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron [/i] at September 29, 2014 11:49 AM (Zq4s7)

139 Shorter NDT:

I am the Great and Powerful OZ.

Your questions are immaterial and disrespectful to my Ozness.

Begone before I hurl upon you the great curse of the
Numinous Negro - The Race Card.

Begone I say.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 29, 2014 11:49 AM (KK+mC)

140 113 Weird phrasing -- so the dude just ran over the female guard? *** Can you imagine where we would be right now if we had competent foreign foes like the old Soviets still around? Our country is run by clowns who spend most of their time and efforts keeping the population from knowing just how stupid they are. Posted by: 18-1 at September 29, 2014 04:45 PM (5DM9u) But the only REAL question was not answered... Was she Hawt?

Posted by: Romeo13, King of Mars at September 29, 2014 11:49 AM (f0pWu)

141 "Neil, named after a famous astronaut who first walked on the moon."

Mars!

Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at September 29, 2014 11:49 AM (noWW6)

142 I explicitly remember the day we uncovered Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction cache, as I commented at the time to Scooter, "This ought to shut up those suckers of cock in the media."

Posted by: Dick Cheney at September 29, 2014 11:50 AM (uhMMS)

143 We know he's smart, 'cause he's on Teevee!

Posted by: The Left at September 29, 2014 11:51 AM (MMC8r)

144 Neil, named after a famous astronaut who first walked on the moon. Last name named after chicken.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at September 29, 2014 11:51 AM (+/X+n)

145 Another thin-skinned affirmative action fool who hasn't been questioned much because of the soft bigotry of low expectations.

Posted by: kathysaysso at September 29, 2014 11:51 AM (jPT60)

146

Someone needs to buy Tyson a copy of Rashomon.  Book or movie, either will do.

Posted by: Thurston Howell IIII at September 29, 2014 11:51 AM (sta+V)

147 You can tell he's a dumbs**t cuz he don't recognize he belongs to the same tribe of Indians as Fauxchahontas, the Ipsedixit Nation.

Posted by: No. Am. Ethnologist at September 29, 2014 11:51 AM (gLt83)

148 Jeez! It's as though genetically determined physical strength matters in fights or something. Who knew? Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2014 04:48 PM (noWW6) Not anyone in Hollywood.... if you watch modern movies or TV. I actually think Hollywood is doing a huge disservice to Women... as it portrays all Women as able to kick any man's ass... Unrealistic expectations will get you killed in a fight...

Posted by: Romeo13, King of Mars at September 29, 2014 11:51 AM (f0pWu)

149 In the comments below that post, a commenter wrote, "Perhaps this is the quote you were thinking of: 'The same creator who names the stars also knows the names of the seven souls we mourn today,'" with a link to a speech Bush gave after the space shuttle Columbia disaster in 2003.

In response, Tyson wrote, "Good to see that the Bush quote was found. Thanks to all who did the searching. I transposed one disaster with another (both occurring within 18 months of one another) in my assigning his quote. Perhaps that's a measure of how upset I was in both cases. The mind is surely the next mysterious universe to be plumbed."

There are two problems with Tyson's response, however.

First, it is not the same quote. The quote contains some similarities, but the message and context are entirely different. Tyson was using his fabricated Bush quote to argue that Bush was being divisive in regard to Muslims. In Bush's Columbia speech, however, Islam was not mentioned nor related to the context.

Second, the Columbia speech quote was already mentioned by Davis in the original post that set off the controversy. So, no "searching" was necessary to find the quote that shares some similarities with Tyson's misquote.

Posted by: Whatsamatta U at September 29, 2014 11:52 AM (e8kgV)

150 I can remember  when Ace said he'd like to do Moochelle.  Please.  Don't ask me when or in which thread, but I remember it precisely.

Posted by: Soona at September 29, 2014 11:52 AM (DkhX8)

151 Let's see his "contemporaneous" note.

Posted by: LASue at September 29, 2014 11:52 AM (xrwmj)

152
Whatcho talkin bout Neal?

Posted by: Gary Colman PHD squared at September 29, 2014 11:52 AM (1sVzz)

153 Tough being named after an event that happened a decade after you were born. What did they call him before that? "hey you?"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 29, 2014 11:53 AM (39g3+)

154 Right, a female guard can use a gun to equalize the physical disparity. But if the plan is she has to tackle a male running at her at full speed ... then that's a stupid fucking plan and it's gonna fail more often than it succeeds. Has the Action Chick cliche become so common that people believe it? People do realize that Scarlett Johannson can't actually beat up an average man, right? All the 115 lb hottie Action Chicks on TV and the movies are just, you know, pretending to beat 200 lb dudes. It's not real.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at September 29, 2014 11:53 AM (ZPrif)

155 If Bush didn't say that quote I'll eat all the penguins native to the northern hemisphere.

Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 11:54 AM (P1WNR)

156 All that Neil is doing is showing solidarity with the looters and rioters in Ferguson.

Posted by: Matt Yglesias at September 29, 2014 11:54 AM (WGm5T)

157 I have an explicit memory as well. Her boobehs were delightful....Is that explicit enough?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Jay Cutler is my MVP at September 29, 2014 11:55 AM (2Aj5D)

158 NDT- "use the scientific method in all aspects of your lives. Unless you want to factcheck what I say. Then just slaughter a lamb and pray to me."

Posted by: Buzzion at September 29, 2014 11:55 AM (X0046)

159 How dare he believe in science Lol. "Belief". He's getting his ass handed to him because he's a serial fabricator. That you unquestioning mouthbreathing lefty dipshits mindlessly genuflect before a charlatan is your own fucking fault. Deal with it. Learn from it. We won't be holding our breath.

Posted by: GFY at September 29, 2014 11:55 AM (IFKzP)

160 He it is ...

"The same creator who names the stars also has begun to take the mind of Neil DeGrasse Tyson"

Posted by: Ken Starr at September 29, 2014 11:55 AM (e8kgV)

161 Has the Action Chick cliche become so common that people believe it? People do realize that Scarlett Johannson can't actually beat up an average man, right? All the 115 lb hottie Action Chicks on TV and the movies are just, you know, pretending to beat 200 lb dudes. It's not real. Posted by: Costanza Defense at September 29, 2014 04:53 PM (ZPrif) The worst is Angelina Jolie. What's she weigh? 90 pounds soaking wet? If I hit her she'd be on the ground longer than Ray Rice's wife. Yet there she is kicking ass. Unbelievable to the point of idiocy.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 29, 2014 11:56 AM (oFCZn)

162 153 Tough being named after an event that happened a decade after you were born. What did they call him before that? "hey you?" Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 29, 2014 04:53 PM (39g3+) I was, in fact, "hey you" until Sir Edmund summitted.

Posted by: Hillary at September 29, 2014 11:56 AM (vgIRn)

163 Neil before Zod.

Posted by: --- at September 29, 2014 11:56 AM (MMC8r)

164 "All that Neil is doing is showing solidarity with the looters and rioters in Ferguson." Did he hold his hands up in a motion never seen before Ferguson?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 29, 2014 11:56 AM (39g3+)

165 I have explicit memory of Tony Romo leading the Cowboys on a game winning touchdown drive in the fourth quarter to clinch a playoff berth each of the last three seasons.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 29, 2014 11:56 AM (uhMMS)

166 >Her boobehs were delightful....Is that explicit enough? Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Jay Cutler is my MVP Not nearly as explicit as my memories.

Posted by: Billy Jeff Clinton - Presidentin' ain't easy at September 29, 2014 11:57 AM (dUGHS)

167 "Neil, named after a famous astronaut who first walked on the moon." ___ That sounds awfully familiar for some reason

Posted by: Edmund Hillary Clinton at September 29, 2014 11:57 AM (5DM9u)

168 86 Much ado about nothing. But we must take down Neil DeGrasse Tyson! How dare he believe in science that we don't like!!! Posted by: Really? at September 29, 2014 04:41 PM (ibvmu) As a proggie who believes he knows SCIENCE, surely you can complete this sentence and what law it references ... "An object in motion ______ "

Posted by: kbdabear at September 29, 2014 11:57 AM (aTXUx)

169 155 If Bush didn't say that quote I'll eat all the penguins native to the northern hemisphere.

Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 04:54 PM (P1WNR)



Like to see you try buster.

Posted by: Galapagos Island Penguins at September 29, 2014 11:57 AM (WGm5T)

170 I have an explicit memory of Shakespeare saying, "I'm rubber and you're glue. Everything you say bounces off me and sticks to you." I think it is in King Lear.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at September 29, 2014 11:58 AM (XUKZU)

171 I can remember when Ace said he'd like to do Moochelle. Please. Don't ask me when or in which thread, but I remember it precisely. I noted it, for future ridicule.

Posted by: toby928(C) at September 29, 2014 11:58 AM (rwI+c)

172 So NDT can pick a little from Speech A, a little from Speech B months if not years apart, conflate them to state that which was never intended by either speech by itself, and that's the "explicit memory" at work? I'm beginning to think this NDT guy may not be on the up and up. Quick, check his pockets for a protractor or a beaker.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 29, 2014 11:59 AM (1CroS)

173 As a proggie who believes he knows SCIENCE, surely you can complete this sentence and what law it references ... "An object in motion ______ " Runs over a female guard standing still....

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at September 29, 2014 12:00 PM (+/X+n)

174 I remember when Lundon Johnson did a podcast saying the military was better suited to manage a war than the White House.

Posted by: Neil Degrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 12:00 PM (HstNY)

175 Trusting the IPCC to do science is much like asking the US Congress to certify virginity

Posted by: Brooke Shields at September 29, 2014 12:00 PM (e8kgV)

176 I fcuking love authority

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 29, 2014 12:00 PM (/GgDU)

177

@168

They won't know that. Its Newton for God sakes. That predates that old piece of paper thing that's you know, old.

 

That's old school, they new school.

Posted by: Jollyroger at September 29, 2014 12:00 PM (t06LC)

178 So I (Buddah of the Bandwidths) assure you, the quote is there somewhere. (I just don't have time to find it myself.) When you (peon) find it, tell me. (Your superior.) Then I (Martyr of the Twitters) can offer it to (the) others (aka non-believers, un-cool kids, and intellectually challenged deniers of FACT!)

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson--I Just Sainted Myself! at September 29, 2014 12:01 PM (RJMhd)

179 Wait, what do I have on DVD? SALT be back in a couple hours. I want to study the wire work.

Posted by: Dizzie's Spinning Top News Service at September 29, 2014 12:01 PM (aK1xA)

180 NDT. The CiC of astrophysicists. The Al Roker of astrophysicists How does it feel bitchez?

Posted by: Golfman in NC at September 29, 2014 12:01 PM (wVWRM)

181 tyson may head a planetarium, but he needs cue cards to name those stars.

Posted by: jack at September 29, 2014 12:02 PM (53CCM)

182 I explicitly remember that Mitt Romney was elected president in 2012. I remember it vividly because that's what Dick Morris, Karl Rove, Michael Barone and Charles Krauthammer said.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 29, 2014 12:02 PM (5itMW)

183 So Tyson makes me glad I haven't watched TV since about 2003.

Posted by: Feh at September 29, 2014 12:02 PM (g/zj9)

184 I have explicit memory of Tony Romo leading the Cowboys on a game winning touchdown drive in the fourth quarter to clinch a playoff berth each of the last three seasons.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 29, 2014 04:56 PM (uhMMS)

 

 

-----------------------------------------

 

Tony Romo put us bitches to shame last night  --  Drew Brees.

 

He said it.  Don't ask me where or to  whom.

 

 

 

Posted by: Soona at September 29, 2014 12:02 PM (DkhX8)

185 I fcuking love authority I fight authority. Authority always wins.

Posted by: John Cougar Mellencamp at September 29, 2014 12:02 PM (elTxQ)

186 By placing her body on the floor, Ray Rice's wife did prevent him from running out of the elevator. So maybe I'm wrong about all this.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 29, 2014 12:03 PM (oFCZn)

187 by the way, the cartoon animal discussed in the animal was The Pink Panther. I was so certain he was white.

Posted by: ace at September 29, 2014 12:03 PM (/FnUH)

188 just kidding.

Posted by: ace at September 29, 2014 12:03 PM (/FnUH)

189 If it has not already been noted, another thing we know about memory is that people who experience trauma do not record the event like a tape. Parts get lost, and right brain functioning takes over what would otherwise be left brain activity. SoTyson was traumatized by Bush's words, that might wxplain his misremembering. yson

Posted by: BurtTC at September 29, 2014 12:03 PM (DW2an)

190 "My explicit recollection is is I di'int have sex with that girl, not one time. Think about it. I got myself a prime babe, a big-legged woman, who wear pants suits. An' she roll her belly just like she roll her biscuit dough. Why would I prey on a girl under me?"

Posted by: A slick willie, formerly afflicted with Peyronie's disease at September 29, 2014 12:03 PM (gLt83)

191 My favorite: So I assure you, the quote is there somewhere. When you find it, tell me. Then I can offer it to others who have taken as much time as you to explore these things.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 12:04 PM (r+7wo)

192 Kate Upton spent the night here last night. It's in the old memory banks, bitchez, so you know it happened.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 29, 2014 12:04 PM (oFCZn)

193 All the 115 lb hottie Action Chicks on TV and the movies are just, you know, pretending to beat 200 lb dudes. It's not real. Posted by: Costanza Defense at September 29, 2014 04:53 PM (ZPrif) Once when I was deployed... the ex wanted self defense lessons (she was Active Navy too)... So... I found some really good hard core Self defense for women classes... where they actually beat up on a guy in a padded suit... Got back from deployment, and one Saturday she started hitting me.... playfully... I said... 'oh... really? backyard???' Went out back and started to spar... me 225 Lbs and just got back from 6 months of boarding ship in the Persian Gulf.... Her ... 120 Lbs... with 6 months of training... It didn't end well when I didn't notice she was getting mad at not being able to hit me... and I was sort of laughing... She actually expected to be able to take me... even though I'd been training on and off for YEARS.... and outweighed her by 100 lbs. So yes.... for some Hollywood and a little training can give you unreasonable expectations...

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 29, 2014 12:04 PM (f0pWu)

194 Gentlemen, the issue here is not whether I took a few liberties with quotes. I did. But if you indict Me, aren't you really indicting all of Science?

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 12:05 PM (qyomX)

195 I remember banging chicks 2 at a time in college. I was kind of a hero.

Posted by: Dr Spank at September 29, 2014 12:05 PM (P1WNR)

196 I'll take a memory from column A and add it to one from column B.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at September 29, 2014 12:05 PM (W5DcG)

197 I was so certain he was white. I always thought he was more of an ecru.

Posted by: garrett at September 29, 2014 12:05 PM (elTxQ)

198 Who knows -- maybe one time when I re-conjured the image of the cartoon animal, I forgot the color, and my brain, seeking to fill in the blanks, took the color from another cartoon animal. Having a "void" in the memory bank for color, my brain took its best guess and filled the animal's shape with what seemed a plausible color. ******** Your own personal Barney is green!?

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson--I Just Sainted Myself! at September 29, 2014 12:05 PM (RJMhd)

199 So I assure you, the quote is there somewhere. When you find it, tell me. Then I can offer it to others who have taken as much time as you to explore these things. FLY, MY MONKEYS, FLY!!!

Posted by: The Wicked Neil of the West at September 29, 2014 12:05 PM (MMC8r)

200 ANY scientist will tell you that a children's game of Telephone proves that a person's memory is infallible. Therefore Neil Degrasse Tyson is correct in this case.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-395 days left until climate chaos) at September 29, 2014 12:05 PM (vzJm/)

201 Why didn't you come to me like a fkcing man and tell me there was no such quote?!?

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 12:06 PM (rwI+c)

202 "If you like your doctor, you actually won't be able to keep your doctor." - Things the Explicit Memory Said, Vol. I

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 29, 2014 12:06 PM (1CroS)

203 Speaking of Scientists(TM), I'm being promoted to Senior Scientist (non-TM) in a couple of weeks!

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 12:06 PM (r+7wo)

204 187 by the way, the cartoon animal discussed in the animal was The Pink Panther. I was so certain he was white. Posted by: ace at September 29, 2014 05:03 PM (/FnUH) *********** What the hell? It's in the title. Ha!

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson--I Just Sainted Myself! at September 29, 2014 12:06 PM (RJMhd)

205 If Hollywood could get us used to thinking about a black president and a female president, then they can get people to believe that a 115 lb chick  can beat up a burly guy.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 29, 2014 12:06 PM (5itMW)

206 Hey! I just remembered I'm a millionaire!  I just can't find my millions...

Posted by: Chi-town Jerry at September 29, 2014 12:07 PM (4+IgA)

207 The most telling part is that when he started to put together his powerpoint presentation he didn't go back and actually verify (or footnote) any quotes. Not quite scientific rigor, is it?

Posted by: --- at September 29, 2014 12:07 PM (MMC8r)

208 So then NdGT "debates" in the classic ProgLefty way.  "What I said is truth.  It isn't my fault if you all are too stupid to realize it."

Posted by: DangerBrandonGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at September 29, 2014 12:07 PM (KuU4f)

209 I have explicit memory of me, Kate Upton, and Kate Mara in a torrid threesome in Cancun. For realsies!!!!

Posted by: puddleglum at September 29, 2014 12:07 PM (tQQRE)

210 Sure, next he'll say that he knew that the water on earth is older than the sun...but because it's supports the bible...his magnificent brain intentionally forgot.

Posted by: Mr Scienze at September 29, 2014 12:07 PM (/ifBZ)

211 My favorite Jimi Hendrix tune is "Excuse Me While I Kiss This Guy."

Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 12:08 PM (vzJm/)

212 by the way, the cartoon animal discussed in the animal was The Pink Panther.
I was so certain he was white. Posted by: ace at September 29, 2014 05:03 PM (/FnUH)

Racist! And I was about to make a joke exactly on that, and you stole my thunder. so War on Wimmen too!

I'm guessing that the cartoon character in question also was NOT a Smurf.

Posted by: LizLem at September 29, 2014 12:08 PM (yRwC8)

213 I am Doctor Aimy Bishop! Aimy...get it? The things I remember....

Posted by: torabora at September 29, 2014 12:08 PM (dgHAU)

214 188 just kidding. Posted by: ace at September 29, 2014 05:03 PM (/FnUH) ************ Oh , okay. I'm warmer with your personal Barney being green.

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson--I Just Sainted Myself! at September 29, 2014 12:08 PM (RJMhd)

215 Dr. Spank I though only Koalas and penguins could pull that off. But mostly Koalas because we got that split penis thing.

Posted by: Koala bearand his big swinging bifurcated penis at September 29, 2014 12:08 PM (WGm5T)

216 25 NDT is the epitome of what science has become in these times. Posted by: Soona

No it isn't.  Not even close.  He is the epitome of what the popular media pretend science is and they are too stupid to know the difference.  As is their audience.

Okay, I'll give you global warming.

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2014 12:08 PM (4nR9/)

217 As we have all said before, these lying lefties are not trying to convince US. They only need to convince the stupid (or evil) emeffers like those who voted for ubasma, the same ones who will vote for shrillary by the way. Speaking of shrillary, how are shrillary and webb doing with the new grandbaby?

Posted by: Erowmero at September 29, 2014 12:09 PM (go5uR)

218 "So... I found some really good hard core Self defense for women classes... where they actually beat up on a guy in a padded suit..."

I endorse these classes, by the way. Being able to throw full speed full force blows is an important psychophysical thing for people who typically haven't done it before.

Having done it a few times, enough to get basic muscle memory of the movements, can be helpful in a pinch.

Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2014 12:09 PM (noWW6)

219 I say, it's almost as if this Tyson fellow is an smug and arrogant asshole or something. He is the SCOAMF of the scientific-y community.

Posted by: Stu-22 at September 29, 2014 12:09 PM (AiYlm)

220 My particular recollection is that pi equals six.

Posted by: Neil deAwesomness Tyson at September 29, 2014 12:09 PM (MMC8r)

221 Memory and hearsay *are* infallible, because Allah (swt) wills it.

Posted by: The Hadith at September 29, 2014 12:11 PM (pVyaq)

222 It's the Buckaroo Banzai Defense.

"Back off man. I'm a scientist."

Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2014 04:41 PM (noWW6)

---------

 

Pretty sure that is the Ghostbusters defense.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 29, 2014 12:11 PM (6n332)

223 NDT thinks that we have two penisies (penisi?, I'm a Koala) but we have only one that splits in two like NDT's tongue.

Posted by: Koala bear and his big swinging bifurcated penis at September 29, 2014 12:11 PM (WGm5T)

224 I have explicit memory of me, Alexandra Daddario and naked yoga.

Posted by: puddleglum at September 29, 2014 12:11 PM (tQQRE)

225  Hey! I just remembered I'm a millionaire! I just can't find my millions...

Posted by: Chi-town Jerry at September 29, 2014 05:07 PM (4+IgA)

 

 

------------------------------------

 

 

You have great potential.

Posted by: Pinocchio at September 29, 2014 12:11 PM (DkhX8)

226 Doctor Professor Tyson Science does, however, reaffirm an age-old aspect of human folly: People, especially Dumb People, hear what they want to hear and believe what they want to believe. Tyson proves that Dumb People will watch "Madame Secretary" and transfer the story onto hillary clinton, which is precisely the show's purpose.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-389 days left until climate chaos) at September 29, 2014 12:11 PM (vzJm/)

227 Ace, your cartoon analogy fails because... NDT doesn't watch cartoons, duh! /NDT fanboy and Lover Of Science. And Logic

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 12:12 PM (r+7wo)

228
My memory that fire won't melt steel is indelibly etched in my mind, and confirms my belief about the attack on 9-11.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at September 29, 2014 12:12 PM (3/wAJ)

229 ...so then Spiderman says to me "No, Neil, YOU'RE THE SUPERHERO!" True story.

Posted by: Neil deAwesomness Tyson at September 29, 2014 12:12 PM (MMC8r)

230 "It's the Buckaroo Banzai Defense." Actually, it's the Ghostbusters Defense. An "explicit memory" would include date and place where it was said. He can't provide those details. A real scientist welcomes someone else trying to verify their work and conclusions. Because a real scientist doesn't rely on his own memory, his own theory, or even his own experimental results, without having them checked by his/her peers. Tyson is just a blow-hard with a piece of parchment.

Posted by: Socratease at September 29, 2014 12:12 PM (82qVG)

231 It's nothing of the sort. It is certain associations (probably involving some basic keywords) networked together in the brain as having been implicated together at one time.

The way I've understood memory is that our brains are pattern-recognition engines. So much so that we don't really 'see' our physical world so much as our brains are constantly matching patterns we recognize and storing a version thereof.

The the physical scene may not match the pattern in our head, so our brain fills in the details and does so repeatedly, not just the time the memory is created.

This is the reason optical illusions work; the illusion fits a pattern that we recognize, iirc.

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at September 29, 2014 12:12 PM (sDQnB)

232 Pretty sure that is the Ghostbusters defense. -- I'm sorry, but I have an explicit memory of Buckaroo Banzai saying that. Surprising there isn't a recording of it. When you find it, let me know.

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 12:12 PM (ZPrif)

233 Pretty sure that is the Ghostbusters defense. Posted by: Darth Randall at September 29, 2014 05:11 PM (6n332) ---- No.... I have an explicit memory of Buckaroo Banzai saying that....

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 12:12 PM (NaV4z)

234 "The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation." You don't need much of a memory with all the idiot progressives and the internet.

Posted by: torabora at September 29, 2014 12:12 PM (dgHAU)

235 Does the Hayden Planetarium website still have the vid up where he uses the false Bush quote? Shold have been taken down right away. If so he's just a massive troll; already knew that, but is nice to have it confirmed via evidence.

Posted by: LizLem at September 29, 2014 12:12 PM (yRwC8)

236 193 All the 115 lb hottie Action Chicks on TV and the movies are just, you know, pretending to beat 200 lb dudes. It's not real.

Racist.

Posted by: Lucy Liu at September 29, 2014 12:13 PM (4nR9/)

237 Okay, I'll give you global warming. Posted by: pep at September 29, 2014 05:08 PM (4nR9/) According to Slate, climate change is now affecting gravity.

Posted by: alexthechick - Team Ebola Zombie at September 29, 2014 12:13 PM (mf5HN)

238 Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 05:12 PM (ZPrif) Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 05:12 PM (NaV4z) ------ Wow..... I thought I double posted for a second.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 29, 2014 12:13 PM (NaV4z)

239 @193 That's why I'm a big fan of: Saiga 12 with duckbill choke for home use The hardest-hitting auto pistol she can handle for carry Krav Maga, so she will. Never. Give. Up.

Posted by: Train like you'll fight at September 29, 2014 12:13 PM (gLt83)

240 205 If Hollywood could get us used to thinking about a black president and a female president, then they can get people to believe that a 115 lb chick can beat up a burly guy.
Posted by: JoeF.


cough**moby**cough

Posted by: Lucy Liu at September 29, 2014 12:14 PM (4nR9/)

241 When you run a planetarium, is that like being the movie projectionist?

Posted by: toby928(C) at September 29, 2014 12:14 PM (rwI+c)

242
My memory serves me well, and I can confirm that my brother JFK never screwed Marilyn Monroe.

Posted by: Robert Kennedy, Jr. at September 29, 2014 12:14 PM (3/wAJ)

243 ...Hayden Planetarium... Wasn't she the Cheerleader? And now she's a lousy country singer?

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-389 days left until climate chaos) at September 29, 2014 12:15 PM (vzJm/)

244 Damn it lmao--you got in a fist fight over it. Reminds me of when I punched out my brother for saying the Culture Club gal was dude.

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson--I Just Sainted Myself! at September 29, 2014 12:15 PM (RJMhd)

245 I have an explicit memory of this Tyson guy as being a pompous asshole.

Posted by: Marmo at September 29, 2014 12:15 PM (QW+AD)

246 Speaking of science, is there nothing global warming can't do? http://tinyurl.com/mwj49bp I don't care. My doctor told me to lose weight and this seems the most likely path to success.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at September 29, 2014 12:15 PM (XUKZU)

247 Middle School Team Pulls Off "Ugly Kardashian" Trick Play
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdYLEuK0dEc

Posted by: Taylor Swift at September 29, 2014 12:15 PM (e8kgV)

248 So this guys name is Omar. I bet we'll find out he's with ISIS and had an explosive vest that failed to go off.

Posted by: Ken at September 29, 2014 12:16 PM (LXJ1e)

249 According to Slate, climate change is now affecting gravity. Phew!, so it's not my fault I feel so fat!

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-389 days left until climate chaos) at September 29, 2014 12:16 PM (vzJm/)

250 I have many Responsibilities of Science at the Hayden Planetarium. I educate our youth about the stars, for example. I'm also proud that I mentored Chad in Concessions on the importance of upselling the Large Popcorn and Soda combo. That took serious work. And Science.

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 12:16 PM (ZPrif)

251 I was there and remember HW Bush saying that and the taste of paste but mostly I remember that sweet, sweet taste of paste. Hey taste and paste rhyme.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 29, 2014 12:16 PM (WGm5T)

252 Monica Bellucci has said so many things, not all of which have been written down, and I swear she told Paolo Sorrentino I was the best sex she ever had. Of course, you could just ask her to find out. But that would be racist. Any of you ant-science reporters want to be racist?

Posted by: Neil de Longschuang Tyson at September 29, 2014 12:16 PM (g/zj9)

253 Reminds me of when I punched out my brother for saying the Culture Club gal was dude. Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson--I Just Sainted Myself! at September 29, 2014 05:15 PM (RJMhd) Had a similar incident when a friend of mine claimed the drummer from Posion was a hot chick.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 29, 2014 12:16 PM (vgIRn)

254 All the progressive democrats are dumping on Clapper. Ah remind me who Clapper works for?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2014 12:16 PM (M0mf2)

255
My mother was a very loving Baptist who implored me to follow in her religious footsteps, and I complied with her wish.  I am a Christian.

Posted by: Hussein Obama at September 29, 2014 12:16 PM (3/wAJ)

256 ...so I said 'No, Don't call it 'Doctor Neil,' just go with 'Doctor Who.' True story.

Posted by: Neil deAwesomness Tyson at September 29, 2014 12:16 PM (MMC8r)

257 After having read his biography on Wikipedia, I am pretty sure that NDT is a very smart person. However, the problem is that once people get swept into the progressive movement with little accountability, they start becoming lazy and making things up. This applies to any situation where there is no accountability, really.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 12:16 PM (r+7wo)

258 >>"Neil, named after a famous astronaut who first walked on the moon."
Mars!
Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at September 29, 2014 04:49 PM (noWW6)
* * *

That would be Yale and University of VA Law graduate Sheila Jackson Lee.
It's important to credit the schools for her constant displays of genius.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2014 12:17 PM (D/504)

259 If NDT was a fruit he'd be a potato.

Posted by: Bob Belcher at September 29, 2014 12:17 PM (KkxTF)

260 I always remember a dick when I hear one.  NDT is a dick.  Maybe a scientific dick, but a dick.   Did I say Dick?

Posted by: dfbaskwill at September 29, 2014 12:17 PM (BXpDr)

261 Catherine Hicks, "I have a photographic memory farm boy.  I see words.  And your friend said, 'Admiral if these whales were ours to do as we please.'"

Hey Neil, I would take Hicks' character over you any day.  You see her character was a real scientist.  You on the other hand are just a carny barker.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2014 12:17 PM (xPIsN)

262 That ain't the only thing ol' Grassy Ass has misremembered in his time. I'm just sayin'.

Posted by: tcn at September 29, 2014 12:17 PM (g+qqc)

263 Just throw the SOB in prison already! We can come up with suitable charges later.... (Kinda like what Mr. Holder and the Governor of MO are trying to do to police officer Darryl Wilson in Ferguson, MO)

Posted by: Alwyr at September 29, 2014 12:17 PM (V0j3u)

264 Did you know that a very long time ago Rodney Dangerfield played a serious role in the hardly-known film The Projectionist?

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-389 days left until climate chaos) at September 29, 2014 12:17 PM (vzJm/)

265 remind me who Clapper works for? The Koch brothers.

Posted by: toby928(C) at September 29, 2014 12:17 PM (rwI+c)

266 When you viciously slaughter two people with a Swiss Army knife, and completely forget it happened, you can spend the rest of your days looking for the real killers in the Nevada State prison system.

Posted by: torabora at September 29, 2014 12:18 PM (dgHAU)

267 I have an explicit memory of banging three totally hot ladyfriends in the back of a stolen Ferrari pick-up truck.  I was 12 and had a full moustache.

Posted by: Dang at September 29, 2014 12:18 PM (MNq6o)

268 NDGT should never be questioned ever. He does science you know.

Posted by: thathalfrican at September 29, 2014 12:18 PM (R5HRU)

269
I never broke the Law! I am the Law!

http://youtu.be/miVoe7U6Lx4

Posted by: Neil DeWeaselly Tyson

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2014 12:18 PM (kdS6q)

270 I explicitly remember there being only one Darren on Bewitched. Prove me wrong.

Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 12:19 PM (vzJm/)

271 Since I have access to the scientific lit, I did a search a few days ago on NdT.  Now I'll admit that he had some pubs, with surprisingly few cites, but at least for the last 10 years, everything he's "done" has been popular BS journals.  You'll get a ton of cites from those, but none from the serious refereed lit, which is, after all, the only thing that counts in this game.  Self-promotion seems to be his major accomplishment.

Full disclosure: I didn't have the time to go further back. 

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2014 12:19 PM (4nR9/)

272 That would be Yale and University of VA Law graduate Sheila Jackson Lee. It's important to credit the schools for her constant displays of genius. Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2014 05:17 PM (D/504) You're kidding, right?

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 12:19 PM (r+7wo)

273 >>After having read his biography on Wikipedia, I am pretty sure that NDT is a very smart person.

Seems like if one is a credentialed specialist in one area they are now empowered to claim expertise in all other sciences.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2014 12:19 PM (D/504)

274 Bob Belcher: "He's got a photoshop-ped/pic memory." In view of Ace's concepts of memory processes, Threadwinner. If I recall you win a One Year Premium AoSHQ Membership and a stuffed Ewok. You should look that up though and then let me know.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 29, 2014 12:19 PM (1CroS)

275 >>>The way I've understood memory is that our brains are pattern-recognition engines. So much so that we don't really 'see' our physical world so much as our brains are constantly matching patterns we recognize and storing a version thereof. The the physical scene may not match the pattern in our head, so our brain fills in the details and does so repeatedly, not just the time the memory is created. This is the reason optical illusions work; the illusion fits a pattern that we recognize, iirc. ... and that, too. But I do think there must be a pronounced verbal component to "memory." Words are so important to thinking, it just makes sense (I think) that the memory would be (largely) organized according to verbal keys.

Posted by: ace at September 29, 2014 12:19 PM (/FnUH)

276 Posted by: torquewrench at September 29, 2014 05:09 PM (noWW6) OH, the classes were great... But I found out they left out one important component... They trained the ladies to fight dirty, which I endorse... but they never demonstrated that size DOES matter... I know it was to get them to have some confidence in their training... but it did lead to some misconceptions as to capability.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 29, 2014 12:19 PM (f0pWu)

277

I shot  a very close grouping at the range of five miles.  I dare say that the wind blew that target away before I could retrieve it.  But it's out there somewhere.  Probably framed in a gun club somewhere.

Posted by: Pinocchio at September 29, 2014 12:19 PM (DkhX8)

278 >>You're kidding, right?

Nope.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2014 12:20 PM (D/504)

279 Basically what he means is he heard Bush mention God once, so he raged out because... atheism.

Posted by: tsrblke (tablet) at September 29, 2014 12:20 PM (QQMmJ)

280
My memory of my first sexual experience was in little Johnny Finsterwald's crib at age three when the little guy gave me head.

Posted by: Sandra the Fluke at September 29, 2014 12:20 PM (3/wAJ)

281 Had a similar incident when a friend of mine claimed the drummer from Posion was a hot chick. Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at September 29, 2014 05:16 PM (vgIRn) *********** LOL! Off to google pics of Poison.

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson--I Just Sainted Myself! at September 29, 2014 12:20 PM (RJMhd)

282 After having read his biography on Wikipedia, I am pretty sure that NDT is a very smart person. However, the problem is that once people get swept into the progressive movement with little accountability, they start becoming lazy and making things up. Add to that the appeal of going from dry, anonymous academic to rock star and you've got a lot of motive.

Posted by: --- at September 29, 2014 12:20 PM (MMC8r)

283 Press secretary Josh Earnest said officials were aware of the threat posed by ISIS, but misjudged the will of the Iraqi military to fight back ????? Nobody but horse's ass's, dog shit on my shoes, and democrats thought the Iraqi army was good for anything but sodomy and rape

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 29, 2014 12:20 PM (M0mf2)

284 Posted by: pep at September 29, 2014 05:19 PM (4nR9/)

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 12:20 PM (r+7wo)

285 do we need to beg what color?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 29, 2014 12:21 PM (IXrOn)

286 Let me CNN-splain something to you: \ CNN:"While his Facebook page included images of bin Laden and a beheading, no indication Nolen was motivated by terrorism, an official said"

Posted by: The Great White Snark at September 29, 2014 12:21 PM (XUKZU)

287 Posted by: pep at September 29, 2014 05:19 PM (4nR9/) You must admit that it does take a certain level of high intelligence to obtain a doctorate in astrophysics. However it doesn't mean that one in that position is not a liar or cannot become lazy.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 12:21 PM (r+7wo)

288 I gave John Kerry his hat. It's seared in my memory. Seared!

Posted by: Neil deAwesomness Tyson at September 29, 2014 12:21 PM (MMC8r)

289 What is sad is that NDT may be deserving of respect due to his degrees but his actions and the perceived falsehoods that we have been fed before about others causes us to doubt his qualifications and thus are not willing to grant him any slack as to his sincerity or his professionalism.

That is the great crime of Affirmative Action.

The lessening of the respect for awards and degrees by those of us who have no other means to measure someone else's ability or knowledge.

We are set adrift only able to judge others by our limited perceptions and their public pronouncements. Either or both of which my be in error for only a particular time and place but does not provide evidence of the lack of ability only the perception of that lack. It's a very cruel situation.

NDT may be a better scientist than he appears and more intelligent than his statements would cause us to believe him to be. Yet we cannot shrug off our doubts.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 29, 2014 12:21 PM (KK+mC)

290 remind me who Clapper works for?

People who are too lazy to get up and turn off the lights.

Posted by: Dang at September 29, 2014 12:21 PM (MNq6o)

291 I like science but you have to speak Indian to get a good order.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 29, 2014 12:22 PM (WGm5T)

292 he problem is that once people get swept into the progressive movement with little accountability, they start becoming lazy and making things up.

There it is. 

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2014 12:22 PM (4nR9/)

293
Neil Degrassyass Tyson was jealous of Emmett Kelly's clown routine with the spotlight and big foot.

Posted by: Doctor Fish at September 29, 2014 12:23 PM (3/wAJ)

294 I fight authority.
Authority always wins.


I fought the law, and I won.

Posted by: Dan White at September 29, 2014 12:23 PM (UVfht)

295 >>Press secretary Josh Earnest said officials were aware of the threat posed by ISIS, but misjudged the will of the Iraqi military to fight back


Shorter Josh Earnest: Iraqis didn't want to not be beheaded strongly enough.

So I guess blaming the victim is now okay?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2014 12:23 PM (D/504)

296 False but true

Posted by: thunderb at September 29, 2014 12:23 PM (Djhde)

297

The way I've understood memory is that our brains are pattern-recognition engines. So much so that we don't really 'see' our physical world so much as our brains are constantly matching patterns we recognize and storing a version thereof.

The the physical scene may not match the pattern in our head, so our brain fills in the details and does so repeatedly, not just the time the memory is created.

This is the reason optical illusions work; the illusion fits a pattern that we recognize, iirc.

 

 

----------------------------------------------

 

 

It can also work in another way.  When the same pattern is repeated  over and over, any deviation, however small,  will bring instant notice.

Posted by: Soona at September 29, 2014 12:24 PM (DkhX8)

298

I have an explicit memory that I didn't do that thing in your mouth that you said I did.

Posted by: Marmo at September 29, 2014 12:24 PM (QW+AD)

299 MUMARs posts are very quasar like. Shines brightly for moment, then off. Shines brightly for moment, then off. Shines brightly for moment, then off. Shines brightly for moment, then off.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 29, 2014 12:24 PM (NaV4z)

300 Spam spam spammy spam spam

Posted by: DangerBrandonGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at September 29, 2014 12:24 PM (KuU4f)

301 Seems like if one is a credentialed specialist in one area they are now empowered to claim expertise in all other sciences. Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2014 05:19 PM (D/504) Yup. Ppl don't realize how specialized people's knowledge is. A person can snowed that much about everything. Oh, and I am floored by this Sheila Jackson Lee education revelation. I don't think I'll be able to get up for the next half hour.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 12:24 PM (r+7wo)

302 My particular recollection is that pi equals six. Posted by: Neil deAwesomness Tyson ---------------- Some of us are jealous that 100% of other's quotes are verifiable.

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 29, 2014 12:25 PM (/GgDU)

303 Shines brightly for moment, then off.
Shines brightly for moment, then off.
Shines brightly for moment, then off.
Shines brightly for moment, then off.

Posted by: fixerupper


You can do that with the Clapper.

Posted by: Dang at September 29, 2014 12:25 PM (MNq6o)

304 Man, I just learned this guy is the director of Hayden Panettiere.  The first season of Heroes was pretty good, but it really went downhill fast after that.  Neil, you need better writers.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 29, 2014 12:25 PM (6n332)

305 Tyson would be an average astrophysicist -- which is impressive enough -- if he were white. But he was plucked out early in his career to become the Avatar of Science. And he obviously has gotten lazy. He has some decent publications. How much he benefited from Affirmative Action early in his academic career is hard to day. No doubt he did to some degree. He's obviously not a dumb man. But he's also obviously not a super genius. And he's clearly gotten lazy on his perch with the Ruling Class kissing his ass for 20 years.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at September 29, 2014 12:25 PM (ZPrif)

306 299 MUMARs posts are very quasar like. Shines brightly for moment, then off. Shines brightly for moment, then off. Shines brightly for moment, then off. Shines brightly for moment, then off. Posted by: fixerupper at September 29, 2014 05:24 PM (NaV4z) Those flashes are caused by a tumor.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 29, 2014 12:25 PM (oFCZn)

307 Here's another example: I have a vivid (even explicit) memory of somebody on the Boston police scanner mentioning the name of that missing kid Sunil Tripathi during the hunt for the Marathon bombers. I think Ace has said he remembers hearing the same thing. According to a crowdsourced review of the scanner logs, nobody ever mentioned him: http://tinyurl.com/m2mg2vr

Posted by: Cole at September 29, 2014 12:25 PM (Z5spv)

308 The way I've understood memory is that our brains are pattern-recognition engines. So much so that we don't really 'see' our physical world so much as our brains are constantly matching patterns we recognize and storing a version thereof.

For 99% of the scientific establishment, that is the case, and I don't mean that in a negative way.  There is also the 1%, the true geniuses, who rather than building on past accomplishment, simply short circuit the process to move quickly to new knowledge.  Those are rarer than hen's teeth, though.    Most of the progress in science comes from the sloggers in the trenches.

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2014 12:26 PM (4nR9/)

309 btw, the "hands up" protest post this morning reminded me of what I learned in a psychology course Emotion. Facial expressions, even subtle ones, are universal. Same goes for gestures. For example, a "shrug" to the savages in the deepest darkest part of Africa or the Amazon means exactly the same thing as it does today at, say, the Mall Of America. But that can't be because today's elite and enlightened generation invented everything.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-389 days left until climate chaos) at September 29, 2014 12:26 PM (vzJm/)

310 You can do that with the Clapper. Posted by: Dang at September 29, 2014 05:25 PM (MNq6o) ----- Clap on. Clap off. ..... if only it were THAT easy....

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 29, 2014 12:26 PM (NaV4z)

311 Seems like if one is a credentialed specialist in one area they are now empowered to claim expertise in all other sciences. ------------- It's called False Transference of Authority. Advertisers do it all of the time; Andy Griffith selling Obamacare.

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 29, 2014 12:27 PM (/GgDU)

312 There's something in orbit between us and the light.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 29, 2014 12:27 PM (KK+mC)

313 Shines brightly for moment, then off. Shines brightly for moment, then off. Shines brightly for moment, then off. Shines brightly for moment, then off. Neil! Shut the damn fridge door!

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at September 29, 2014 12:28 PM (+/X+n)

314 I actually got in a physical fight with a friend over this animal's color. My friend said the animal was one color; but I had an explicit memory of it being a different color.

That was Tom Terrific's Manfred, the mighty wonder dog.
Orange, pink, or purple.
I distinctly remember that because I watched all episodes on black and white TV.

Posted by: jwb7605[/i][/u][/s][/b] at September 29, 2014 12:28 PM (ZALPg)

315 When did this happen? Why did neurons get crossed here That Kaboom. She is a right bitch.

Posted by: krakatoa at September 29, 2014 12:28 PM (eCtnP)

316 The Sammy Davis hairpiece ain't workin',

Posted by: Agenda 21 Refugee at September 29, 2014 12:28 PM (XzRw1)

317 But I do think there must be a pronounced verbal component to "memory." Words are so important to thinking, it just makes sense (I think) that the memory would be (largely) organized according to verbal keys. Posted by: ace at September 29, 2014 05:19 PM (/FnUH) As I recall, the most instantly recalled memories are often triggered by smells. Somehow, that sticks with you.

Posted by: tcn at September 29, 2014 12:28 PM (g+qqc)

318 Tell me, who is this guy again, and why does he matter?


On second thought...never mind, I'm heading out the door to go to work, and besides I'm pretty sure I don't really care.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 29, 2014 12:28 PM (6fyGz)

319 Constanta, I don't know about average. It appears he was a really smart kid, even for the field. But he's corrupted himself, clearly.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 12:28 PM (r+7wo)

320 Perry to comment on OK beheading.

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 29, 2014 12:29 PM (/GgDU)

321 One day, there will be an accounting.

And the Infotainment Industry will be in big trouble.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 29, 2014 12:29 PM (KK+mC)

322 Test.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at September 29, 2014 12:29 PM (+/X+n)

323 Studying memory is really kind of scary. You only think you remember. Your memory can be supressed, or altered, or completely fabricated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconsolidation

Posted by: toby928(C) at September 29, 2014 12:29 PM (rwI+c)

324 chique d'afrique: "Yup. Ppl don't realize how specialized people's knowledge is." We depend on that misconception. Wait, did I say depend? I meant profit. BTW, did you know that Dr. Gell-Mann invented Milk-of-Amnesia?

Posted by: The MFM at September 29, 2014 12:30 PM (1CroS)

325 287 Posted by: pep at September 29, 2014 05:19 PM (4nR9/)

You must admit that it does take a certain level of high intelligence to obtain a doctorate in astrophysics. However it doesn't mean that one in that position is not a liar or cannot become lazy. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick)


Agreed.  See my @292.

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2014 12:30 PM (4nR9/)

326 I always cross my neurons but but sometimes forget  to dot the neutrons.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 29, 2014 12:30 PM (WGm5T)

327 Lying is clearly no big deal to progs, as long as it facilitates their end. When you think about it, that is quite scary.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 12:31 PM (r+7wo)

328 I bet Ace thought The Great Gazoo was actually blue.

Posted by: DangerBrandonGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at September 29, 2014 12:31 PM (KuU4f)

329
What is sad is that NDT may be deserving of respect due to his degrees...
Posted by: Bitter Clinger



Really? Cause giving respect based on tangible accomplishments or real ability seems like a more reasonable way to go.

We all know how the system can be gamed and how much of getting a piece of paper for the wall or an award on the desk is just showing up or being "our sort of people".

Case in point -- President Harvard Law and President Nobel Prize.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2014 12:31 PM (kdS6q)

330 >>There are four lights. You said that already, what else?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 29, 2014 12:31 PM (g1DWB)

331 Nobody can find the quote because he didn't say it, you asshole.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2014 12:31 PM (mx5oN)

332 Studying memory is really kind of scary. You only think you remember. Your memory can be supressed, or altered, or completely fabricated. ---- Speaking of which.... watched Shutter Island last night with Mrs Fixer. I found it oddly fascinating.... even for a Leonardo DiCaprio flick....

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 29, 2014 12:31 PM (NaV4z)

333 Ends, not end.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 12:31 PM (r+7wo)

334 There are four lights. Is this from an Outer Limits episode?

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-389 days left until climate chaos) at September 29, 2014 12:31 PM (vzJm/)

335 As I recall, the most instantly recalled memories are often triggered by smells. Somehow, that sticks with you. Posted by: tcn

Isn't that weird?  To this day, certain smells trigger memories from when I was 4. 

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2014 12:31 PM (4nR9/)

336 As I recall, the most instantly recalled memories are often triggered by smells. Somehow, that sticks with you. Posted by: tcn at September 29, 2014 05:28 PM (g+qqc) *********** ^This. I think it has something to do with the location of scent memory in the brain.

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson--I Just Sainted Myself! at September 29, 2014 12:31 PM (RJMhd)

337 As I recall, the most instantly recalled memories are often triggered by smells. Somehow, that sticks with you.

Posted by: tcn at September 29, 2014 05:28 PM (g+qqc)

 

 

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For that matter, all the senses will bring back memories.  Taste is a good memory machine, as well as touch (as in the soft touch of a woman).

 

brb.

Posted by: Soona at September 29, 2014 12:32 PM (DkhX8)

338 It's like Obama's a piece of shit liar or something. DRUDGE REPORT @DRUDGE_REPORT REPORT: Intel predicting rise of ISIS provided to Obama since before 2012... http://drudge.tw/1orprEN

Posted by: Costanza Defense at September 29, 2014 12:32 PM (ZPrif)

339 >>We all know how the system can be gamed and how much of getting a piece of paper for the wall or an award on the desk is just showing up or being "our sort of people".

Whaaaaat?

Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at September 29, 2014 12:32 PM (D/504)

340 I bet Ace thought The Great Gazoo was actually blue. He was blue, dum-dum.

Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 12:32 PM (vzJm/)

341 You must admit that it does take a certain level of high
intelligence to obtain a doctorate in astrophysics. However it doesn't
mean that one in that position is not a liar or cannot become lazy.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick)


But sucking a mean dick gets you a long way with us astrophysics profs. NDT has a pretty mouth and knows how to use it.

Posted by: Redneck Astophysist at September 29, 2014 12:32 PM (WGm5T)

342 334 There are four lights. Is this from an Outer Limits episode? Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-389 days left until climate chaos) at September 29, 2014 05:31 PM (vzJm/) Star Trek TNG I believe.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2014 12:32 PM (mx5oN)

343 Memory has a chemical process to it also. Say you're driving down the road with Kate Upton by your side and she begins to fellate you. You remember that right? Forever and a day. But then you spin out of control and your head hits the dash. Memory gone. Forever. Retrograde amnesia, is the term. Not enough time has transpired for your brain to process the memory from short term to long term memory. The mind is a terrible thing.

Posted by: Lucy, The Dr, Is In [/i] at September 29, 2014 12:32 PM (Zq4s7)

344 Case in point -- President Harvard Law and President Nobel Prize. Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2014 05:31 PM (kdS6q) Um, I'm no AmishDude, but astrophysics PhD >> JD.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 12:33 PM (r+7wo)

345 Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 05:31 PM (r+7wo)

They MEAN well. And that's all that counts.

Doesn't matter if the RESULTS are deadly or destructive.

Good intentions + paving machine >> Road to Hell

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 29, 2014 12:33 PM (KK+mC)

346 The real issue here, about how "smart" anyone with credentials is, is how much we take the word of the university who issued those credentials. I take it we have come to understand that universities in the USA are pretty much crap anymore, and assuming that someone is smart for having passed classes and defended a dissertation doesn't really cut it. Hell, they gave me a Masters of Architecture degree, and that blew my mind. Me? Appears they will give it to any Tom, Dick or Harry. In NDT's case, mostly dick, but a little bit hairy, too.

Posted by: tcn at September 29, 2014 12:33 PM (g+qqc)

347 When Sagan had his show on TV, my mother told my grandmother that she just had to watch Sagan because he had "a beautiful voice." The grandparents dutifully watched Cosmos as instructed. The next day, they told my mother that the show was OK, but they kept waiting for Sagan to sing, and he never did. So they didn't think they'd be watching Cosmos again.

Posted by: Furious George at September 29, 2014 12:33 PM (UlJ3l)

348 I bet Ace thought The Great Gazoo was actually blue. He was black, white, & grey.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at September 29, 2014 12:33 PM (+/X+n)

349 Tyson is unquestionably a well educated, bright guy. Like many others, if he constrained himself to his field of expertise, he would no doubt be uncontroversially successful. It is when he undertakes to weave socio-political commentary into the mix that he stumbles. It happens all of the time with Lefties.

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 29, 2014 12:33 PM (/GgDU)

350 Speaking of which.... watched Shutter Island last night with Mrs Fixer. I found it oddly fascinating.... even for a Leonardo DiCaprio flick....

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 29, 2014 05:31 PM (NaV4z)

 

 

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That movie reminded me of a book I read called "The White Hotel".

Posted by: Soona at September 29, 2014 12:34 PM (DkhX8)

351 Star Trek TNG I believe. Posted by: Insomniac at September 29, 2014 05:32 PM (mx5oN) ---- Yup..... Picard was tortured and made to say there are four lights when there were only three.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 29, 2014 12:34 PM (NaV4z)

352 Nothing but a POS spammer.

Posted by: DangerBrandonGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at September 29, 2014 12:34 PM (KuU4f)

353

It's Schroenger's Quote, actually.  It's only not there if you're not looking right at it, right?

 

Scientific Rigor Mortis is never wrong.

 

 

 

Jim
Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 29, 2014 12:34 PM (RzZOc)

354 I find that music triggers past emotions for me, even when I don't remember what caused the emotions. Weird.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 12:34 PM (r+7wo)

355 So they didn't think they'd be watching Cosmos again. Posted by: Furious ------------- Not Perry Cosmos, eh?

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 29, 2014 12:35 PM (/GgDU)

356 The Great Gazoo was black, until the white man stole his likeness and perverted it!

Posted by: Cornel West at September 29, 2014 12:35 PM (mx5oN)

357 You can think of a smell and it can trigger a memory. Actors use a method called sense-memory in which they think of, say, burning leaves in October and use it to act their part.

Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 12:35 PM (vzJm/)

358 Speaking of which.... watched Shutter Island last night with Mrs Fixer. I found it oddly fascinating.... even for a Leonardo DiCaprio flick.... Posted by: Sandra Fluke at September 29, 2014 05:31 PM (NaV4z) ---- WTF???? Why us Sandra Fluke watching movies with my wife???

Posted by: fixerupper at September 29, 2014 12:35 PM (NaV4z)

359 So, essentially this guy doesn't have the guts or honor to just say he was not correct.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at September 29, 2014 12:35 PM (lJLML)

360 you're driving down the road with Kate Upton by your side and she begins to fellate you. ....Not enough time has transpired for your brain to process the memory from short term to long term memory.
Posted by: Lucy, The Dr, Is In



So, you're saying there's a chance that happened, right?

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2014 12:35 PM (4nR9/)

361 love the cartoon analogy...once again, you mopped the floor with him.

Posted by: concrete girl at September 29, 2014 12:35 PM (XyeCO)

362 It appears he was a really smart kid, even for the field. --- No, I don't think the evidence supports that at all. His scientific output isn't very extensive or impactful given his age and stature. That's ok. He's a popularizer of science. He hasn't made many important contributions to the field. He mainly explains the work of other, brighter minds. That's what popularizers do.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at September 29, 2014 12:35 PM (ZPrif)

363 I find that music triggers past emotions for me, even when I don't remember what caused the emotions. Weird. Posted by: chique ----------------- Transfers your psyche to a previous time...., but you aren't really there.

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 29, 2014 12:36 PM (/GgDU)

364 @282 What kinda a-hole won't admit he was wrong? What kind commits the fallacy ipse dixit instead of real proof? No kind of scientist. What kind of scientist is best? The kind who undertakes St. Anselm's enterprise, that of faith seeking understanding. Like this guy: http://preview.tinyurl.com/cptkquj In fact, we could fairly say, "Humility, before understanding."

Posted by: Trout for lunch? at September 29, 2014 12:36 PM (gLt83)

365 As I recall, the most instantly recalled memories are often triggered by smells. Somehow, that sticks with you. As in real estate, location, location, location. Scent memories are in closest proximity to incoming nerve impulses searching for a 'hit'. The 'old' brain sits at the best location for quick retrieval. Which is why, when the brain begins to go to soft pudding, the sense of smell disappears. It's now part of test for early onset Alzheimer's, iirc.

Posted by: Lucy, The Dr, Is In [/i] at September 29, 2014 12:37 PM (Zq4s7)

366 >> I find that music triggers past emotions for me, even when I don't remember what caused the emotions.

Yeah, songs can immediately take me back in time, remind me of some long ago incident or emotions.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2014 12:37 PM (D/504)

367 Oh.... the smell of fresh cut alfalfa.....

Posted by: fixerupper at September 29, 2014 12:37 PM (NaV4z)

368

Memory has a chemical process to it also. Say you're driving down the road with Kate Upton by your side and she begins to fellate you. You remember that right? Forever and a day. But then you spin out of control and your head hits the dash. Memory gone. Forever. Retrograde amnesia, is the term. Not enough time has transpired for your brain to process the memory from short term to long term memory.

 

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Thank you.  You've just jogged an almost forgotten memory of Kate and I.  Damn car wrecks.   Never dated her again.

Posted by: Soona at September 29, 2014 12:38 PM (DkhX8)

369 What kinda a-hole won't admit he was wrong? Prog a-hole.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at September 29, 2014 12:38 PM (+/X+n)

370 Maybe it was Elmo...

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson--I Just Sainted Myself! at September 29, 2014 12:38 PM (RJMhd)

371 Yeah, but the G.W. Bush quote had some truthiness to or so that makes speech by Mr. deGraase " Sciency" ! :-)

Posted by: blogforce onec at September 29, 2014 12:38 PM (4kTSc)

372 I have an explicit memory of banging three totally hot ladyfriends in the back of a stolen Ferrari pick-up truck. I was 12 and had a full moustache.

Gordito!

Posted by: Dr McNinja at September 29, 2014 12:38 PM (UVfht)

373 He's lead author on very few publications. I'm not saying he's a dumb man. He's a smart man. Just not the Uber-Genius he's portrayed as in the media. He's personable and smart enough and seems well suited for his current career as popularize of science. He's a Science Entertainer. It'd be nice if lied less often, of course.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at September 29, 2014 12:39 PM (ZPrif)

374 365 There are four lights. 4 is the correct answer. 5 is the torture answer.


If you close one eye there are only two. Try it.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 29, 2014 12:39 PM (WGm5T)

375 What does memory have to do with quitting smoking? Well, smokers have trouble quitting not only because of senses, e.g., smelling a burning cigarette, also cues. A cue can be someone reaching in their pocket the same way you used to reach for your butts. Any little thing, really. Habits...memory. They're linked.

Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 12:39 PM (vzJm/)

376 Close both eyes and there are not any lights!

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 29, 2014 12:40 PM (WGm5T)

377
You must admit that it does take a certain level of high intelligence to obtain a doctorate in astrophysics.
Posted by: chique d'afrique



One of our pet Phds could probably answer better, but from going around with someone who often commented on what she was doing while working on her masters and doctorate*, those degrees involved more reading and test taking, which is a given skill for that set, with a couple of long projects.tossed in.

Hardest part seemed to be footnoting and the orals.  And come on, you can't talk about what you just spent a year typing up?


*endless hours of her bitchin with me nodding and going "uh huh - sounds like they weren't very fair to you" -- every so often.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2014 12:40 PM (kdS6q)

378 This reminds me of the pot vs. kettle pseudo-science about Bush's "ideological rigidity" and "anti-intellectualism." 

No one is less likely to admit fault than a professor.  No one is more prone to argue from authority than a professor, and none are more prone to elevate their own authority. 

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at September 29, 2014 12:40 PM (QKIQb)

379 Oh.... the smell of fresh cut alfalfa..... Posted by: fixerupper This. My favorite from my youth. Now, in middle age, and far away from where I grew up, rain on sagebrush is the next best thing.

Posted by: Furious George at September 29, 2014 12:40 PM (UlJ3l)

380 >>Retrograde amnesia, is the term.

My mom worked with people who had experienced serious head trauma/been in comas. It was especially frustrating to them that they could not remember the accident since the last 20 seconds before impact was lost. They wanted to see pictures of the scene, or hear the story from someone who was there but not as injured.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 29, 2014 12:41 PM (D/504)

381 As another Great American said, "I have that memory which is seared -- seared -- in me."

Posted by: PersonFromPorlock at September 29, 2014 12:41 PM (Mjn+V)

382 Wrong, there are 6 lights.

Posted by: Accused pederast Harry Reid at September 29, 2014 12:41 PM (WGm5T)

383 All of this is very simple. NDT lied, in order to make GWB look dumb and play to his own ('Smarter than thou') base. I do take issue with that Volokh Conspiracy piece on this topic, that the writer feels a need to lay cover for NDT by asserting his apparent lies here have no bearing on Dr. Tyson's 'science'. I'm sorry, but they do. They go to the very heart of if Tyson can be trusted. He's shown willingness to fib and embellish with little things, when it suits his agenda it is not uncalled for to question his assertions regarding larger matters either.

Posted by: Rodney C. Johnson at September 29, 2014 12:42 PM (n9h5d)

384 It is when he undertakes to weave socio-political commentary into the mix that he stumbles. It happens all of the time with Lefties. Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc.

At the risk of sounding like a bitter person, this is what happens when people make a big deal out of someone far out of proportion to his actual accomplishments.  Tyson is doubtless a bright guy.  I work daily with many, many people who are almost ridiculously intelligent.  They are anonymous to the culture.  They are, however, well known among the cognescenti in their respective fields. 

Let's face it: he gets the attention he gets because it gives the people praising him a thrill to ostentatiously praise an intelligent black man, thereby demonstrating their own virtue.  That's what this whole thing is about.  The egos of the self-anointed elites drive most of what this society identifies as  important.  I'm sick of it. 

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2014 12:42 PM (4nR9/)

385 Oh.... the smell of fresh cut alfalfa..... Posted by: fixerupper Little Rascals!

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at September 29, 2014 12:42 PM (+/X+n)

386 Mr. deGrasse Tyson,

Why is it you are always the science hero in all of your 'stories'?

Posted by: weft cut-loop[/i] [/b] at September 29, 2014 12:42 PM (sDQnB)

387 Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 05:39 PM (vzJm/)

Part of cigarette smoking (and other drugs) is the ritual.

The Purchasing.
The opening of the pack.
The smell of tobacco.
The tamping of the tobacco.
The placing in the lips.

The Lighter and lighting the cigarette.
The first inhale and exhale of smoke.
The taste and odor of burning tobacco.
The rush of chemicals.

It took me 3 years to stop remembering and being triggered by the above and wanting a cigarette even though I wasn't "addicted" to nicotine anymore.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 29, 2014 12:43 PM (KK+mC)

388 Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2014 05:42 PM (+/X+n)

I thought he was shot?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 29, 2014 12:43 PM (KK+mC)

389 Laurie David's Cervix, I have a Chem E PhD. It wasn't just taking tests. It was no joke. Getting STEM PhDs is pretty different from getting a doctorate in other fields.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 12:44 PM (r+7wo)

390 All of this is very simple. NDT lied, in order to make GWB look dumb and play to his own ('Smarter than thou') base. 'Clapper' science.

Posted by: --- at September 29, 2014 12:44 PM (MMC8r)

391 But you say you have an explicit memory! Well my stars and garters, I didn't know you had an explicit memory! Explicit memories are scientifically proven to be much more reliable than plain ol' memories. So ignore the evidence -- Take my word for it. I'm a Scientist. This is an amazing parallel to the situation that happened with a previous "black man held up as a brilliant scientist" by the media: George Washington Carver. He was hailed in the media as a great inventor and scientists, having devised "134 different uses for peanuts" and so forth. And these claims were repeated ad nauseam. But when a single solitary skeptical investigator looked into he discovered that when pressed about his "inventions," Carver said that they were all "up here" (tapping his head). And when asked to produce any scientific papers, or notes on his experiments, and so forth, he revealed that he had none whatsoever. The entirety of the evidence that he had invented anything was that he merely claimed he had done so, and it was all in his big brain. No documentation required. None provided. And guess what happened as a result of this being revealed? Nothing. George Washington Carver is STILL hailed as a great genius and taught to generations of schoolchildren as America's Greatest Scientist. Because he had the magic shield of uncriticizability: a slightly darker skin tone.

Posted by: zombie at September 29, 2014 12:44 PM (/UYSJ)

392 Posted by: Costanza Defense at September 29, 2014 05:39 PM (ZPrif) Agree that he's most likely not a genius.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 12:45 PM (r+7wo)

393 So is this one of those "A lie told often enough becomes the truth." moments?

Posted by: Kaitian at September 29, 2014 12:45 PM (Rvd04)

394 Did Ace win the fight? Does he remember?

Posted by: BignJames at September 29, 2014 12:45 PM (j7iSn)

395 NDT's talk radio show Star Talkers sucked. The local lefty station cut it over a year ago. His character was true to form the few times I listened-- a real pretentious prick.

Posted by: Agenda 21 Refugee at September 29, 2014 12:46 PM (XzRw1)

396 Part of cigarette smoking (and other drugs) is the ritual. The Purchasing. The opening of the pack. The smell of tobacco. The tamping of the tobacco. The placing in the lips. The Lighter and lighting the cigarette. The first inhale and exhale of smoke. The taste and odor of burning tobacco. The rush of chemicals The hole in the shirt from the falling, burning ember. Pro tip: Don't smoke while riding a motorcycle.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at September 29, 2014 12:46 PM (+/X+n)

397 lulz! I'm watching Emergency! right now and I see a grown-up Wally Cleaver in this episode. He has a beard.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-389 days left until climate chaos) at September 29, 2014 12:46 PM (vzJm/)

398 383 All of this is very simple. NDT lied, in order to make GWB look dumb and play to his own ('Smarter than thou') base. Posted by: Rodney C. Johnson I'd dub this Dog Whistle Science, but that would be an insult to the hearing abilities of dogs.

Posted by: zombie at September 29, 2014 12:47 PM (/UYSJ)

399 I see a grown-up Wally Cleaver in this episode. He has a beard. Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-389 days left until climate chaos) So what? So does Obama.

Posted by: Furious George at September 29, 2014 12:47 PM (UlJ3l)

400 Pro tip: Don't smoke while riding a motorcycle. Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2014 05:46 PM (+/X+n) ----- Here's another...... Dont chew Skoal with riding the Tilt-A-Whirl at the Iowa State Fair. Centrifugal Force will NOT be denied. True Story

Posted by: fixerupper at September 29, 2014 12:47 PM (NaV4z)

401 That's ok. He's a popularizer of science. He hasn't made many important contributions to the field. He mainly explains the work of other, brighter minds. That's what popularizers do. Posted by: Costanza Defense

So, Professor Proton or Dr. Gebelhauser?

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2014 12:47 PM (4nR9/)

402 I thought he was shot? He was. But whenever I hear/read "alfalfa", I think LR.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at September 29, 2014 12:48 PM (+/X+n)

403 MUMR: you know that spammers S*ck C*ck?

Well at least YOU do.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 29, 2014 12:48 PM (KK+mC)

404
Um, I'm no AmishDude, but astrophysics PhD >> JD.
Posted by: chique d'afrique



I'd say not proven. The cut to get into Harvard Law is, absent AfAct or other inclusive policy *cough Obama cough Warren*, much more severe than someone trying to getting into a program where they're no jobs after a few years in post-doc denial,

And retaining case law for a test is more difficult than something logical like a science or mathematics.

And it's not exactly unlikely that Tyson had his skids greased just like The O, because historic first.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2014 12:49 PM (kdS6q)

405 here's an apt analogy: Neil DeGrasse Tyson :: Science Jon Stewart :: News

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-389 days left until climate chaos) at September 29, 2014 12:49 PM (vzJm/)

406 Posted by: fixerupper at September 29, 2014 05:47 PM (NaV4z)

And don't stand right at the edge of ride while it's running.


RALLLLLPPPPPHHHHH.

*ex tilt-a-whirl and Scrambler operator.*

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 29, 2014 12:50 PM (KK+mC)

407

Of couse, I'm the guy who typed "they're" instead of "there are", so might not want to go by me....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2014 12:51 PM (kdS6q)

408 Am I the last to learn about this? It's a pet and a food! http://tinyurl.com/on6j7nk

Posted by: Mike Hammer,etc., etc. at September 29, 2014 12:51 PM (/GgDU)

409 Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson at September 29, 2014 05:39 PM (vzJm/)

Part of cigarette smoking (and other drugs) is the ritual.

The Purchasing.
The opening of the pack.
The smell of tobacco.
The tamping of the tobacco.
The placing in the lips.

The Lighter and lighting the cigarette.
The first inhale and exhale of smoke.
The taste and odor of burning tobacco.
The rush of chemicals.

It took me 3 years to stop remembering and being triggered by the above and wanting a cigarette even though I wasn't "addicted" to nicotine anymore.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 29, 2014 05:43 PM (KK+mC)


Trigger warnings needed for this comment!

Posted by: LizLem at September 29, 2014 12:52 PM (yRwC8)

410 retaining case law for a test is more difficult than something logical like a science or mathematics



BOOOOOOOOM

Posted by: Amish Dude's Head at September 29, 2014 12:52 PM (4nR9/)

411 Unfortunately for all who will be viewing Jasmine as she works a pole in sunny Florida, all they will see are two high-beams and a tattoo as a third eye.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at September 29, 2014 12:52 PM (xPIsN)

412 or NBC :: News, even

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (-389 days left until climate chaos) at September 29, 2014 12:52 PM (vzJm/)

413 Affirmative Action is so widespread that it compromises most credentials these days. Pretty much everybody except CalTech, which is one of the only places left that is really race-blind. Which is why the Left gets angry at it for having too many whites and asians. Of course, whites are actually under-represented there cause it has so many asians.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at September 29, 2014 12:53 PM (ZPrif)

414 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2014 05:49 PM (kdS6q) Depends on whether you think memorization is harder than applying logic to a new and often mystifying situation. There's a reason not that many ppl go into STEM fields. I guess we can agree to disagree.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 12:54 PM (r+7wo)

415 Yeah, this might be a mistake: Walmart Faults Tracy Morgan for Not Wearing Seatbelt During Car Accident (Exclusive) On Yahoo.

Posted by: Major-Asshole Ritt Momney at September 29, 2014 12:54 PM (MMC8r)

416 Apparently MUMR is vying for a place in the

B L A Z E R AOSHQ Hall of Shame.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 29, 2014 12:54 PM (KK+mC)

417 Nood

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/b][/I] at September 29, 2014 12:55 PM (+/X+n)

418 Thank God.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at September 29, 2014 12:56 PM (KK+mC)

419 And it isn't just logic. There's a lot of complicated stuff to process. Not knocking lawyers as I do think it does take something to pass the bar.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 12:56 PM (r+7wo)

420 Depends on whether you think memorization is harder than applying logic to a new and often mystifying situation. There's a reason not that many ppl go into STEM fields.


I suppose it depends on your particular mental makeup.  I find it easy to remember words, but it was much more difficult to learn to think logically, i.e. mathematically.  I know others who are math prodigies but who can't spell simple words.  The human mind is a very interesting beast.

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2014 12:57 PM (4nR9/)

421 "Getting STEM PhDs is pretty different from getting a doctorate in other fields."

And then some. 

I read some of Michelle Obama's thesis some time ago - if that was grad level work, I can't imagine the doctoral is much more rigorous.

The "social sciences" are so subjective that their "physics" - psychology - can't even articulate a verifiable theory of why their "atom" - one person - behaves the way it does. It's all based on questionnaires, surveys and stilted behavioral experiments with glaring lack of controls and other methodological defects.

They're proto-sciences:  bodies of data and observations from which a real science may someday arise.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at September 29, 2014 12:57 PM (QKIQb)

422
retaining case law for a test is more difficult than something logical like a science or mathematics

BOOOOOOOOM
Posted by: Amish Dude's Head



Put a wet rag on your forehead and lie down somewhere dark and quiet....

Harder to remember and use something fundamentally illogical and arbitrary. Now the standards to evaluate the results, did the experiment blow-up vs will an appeals judge rule in our favor -- separate question.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2014 12:59 PM (kdS6q)

423 Pep, you're right, but I think the ability to memorize is a more common skill, if you get what I'm saying. But a skill nonetheless.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 01:00 PM (r+7wo)

424 We know how accurate celebrity economists, celebrity doctors and celebrity therapists are. Why do people go to this idiot celebrity for their science?

Posted by: RKae at September 29, 2014 01:03 PM (CV0b+)

425 @391 Maybe a French guy invented peanut butter. I don't care enough to spend much time on a question to which my ultimate response would be, "So, what?" If your point is that engineering isn't science, meh... I shift to epistemology. You lose. If you say that black scientists would use their talent better as Commie agitators, OMG, deliver us! If you want to fight a prog take-over of Tuskegee, I will join you with overwatch from long-range. If you want to start with soil microbes and end with profitable X for ex-slaves, or the F1-gen, I will join you. You can see my fingerprints a lot better with the staining from humic acids.

Posted by: Trout for lunch? at September 29, 2014 01:04 PM (gLt83)

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Soooooo, you're saying I'm ordinary, mediocre, nothing special? 

**collapses and sobs**

Posted by: pep at September 29, 2014 01:04 PM (4nR9/)

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Posted by: pep at September 29, 2014 01:05 PM (4nR9/)

428 Put me down as strongly disagreeing on "case law is harder to remember than science or math." 

I admit I went for case law in part because it was easier than science or math.  Everyone's brain may work a little differently, but cases deal with much more commonplace and easily referential subjects - mostly the conduct and misconduct of human beings in their day-to-day-lives.  I doubt that people find it easier to remember nth-dimensional mathematical theories than why market-share liability should apply to pharma companies. American history was easier than Russian history for me in large part just because the names were recognizable.  High-level physics has a language all its own - try reading some of the Wiki entries that are considered "accessible" on quantum theory. 

Gotta disagree.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at September 29, 2014 01:06 PM (QKIQb)

429 Pep, I thought you were a chemist?! Definitely not mediocre!

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 01:11 PM (r+7wo)

430 Am I the last to learn about this? It's a pet and a food!

Way ahead of you.

What do you call a President with four dogs?  A rancher!

Posted by: Barakus the First at September 29, 2014 01:11 PM (UVfht)

431 I've seen some of the stuff you chemists are capable of.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at September 29, 2014 01:11 PM (r+7wo)

432

What's ironic is how His Scientific Holiness is doing the exact same crap the politicians he's belittling do: making shit up that sounds good and plays to his audience, as well as the ol' "I told somebody big off" brag.

   People do this all the time. Public people more and more get caught when they pull it and should learn not do it. Ever since I can remember, I've sat around at various bull-shooting places and heard braggarts pull this kind of stuff.

  Like the guy telling us all how he, as a lowly enlisted enlisted man, cussed out some officer when he was in the Army back in WWII or the Korean War era. In his tale, the officer started out as Major, but got promoted to a 3-star general before he finished telling the tale.

   The truth was, I'm sure, he got balled out by some 2nd Lt. and imagined himself telling him off and that imaginary scene became that story.

    That's exactly what NDT's "telling the judge off" story is.

Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at September 29, 2014 01:14 PM (dvuhZ)

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Posted by: Freotragic at September 29, 2014 01:15 PM (E992c)

434 >>> Hi Ace, I'm a long-time reader but first-time poster. Posted by: Freotragic at September 29, 2014 06:15 PM (E992c)

Welcome! Thanks for a thoughtful comment. Post much!

Posted by: LizLem at September 29, 2014 01:21 PM (yRwC8)

435 287 You must admit that it does take a certain level of high intelligence to obtain a doctorate in astrophysics. However it doesn't mean that one in that position is not a liar or cannot become lazy. Certainly. But don't you know some people whose brains are perfectly sound, exceptional even, but who have learned to shut them off when needed, to fit into the Progressive world? I know a few. Such a waste of potential. What's really sad is that the popularization of science used to be a field in which the practitioners seemed consumed with delight about science, and were eager to share that. One can criticize Nye and Sagan, but they seemed to be having a good time. The fact that the current most-famous popularizer of science is making up quotes whose purpose is not to demonstrate a scientific principle, but to pander to the base Progressive desire to sneer at others perceived as less intelligent, is the worst part of this whole kerfuffle.

Posted by: Splunge at September 29, 2014 01:22 PM (qyomX)

436

...And retaining case law for a test is more difficult than something logical like a science or mathematics...

 

Oh please, retaining case law is like an actor retaining a script.  It is English, not 'tech speech'

 SocietyIs2Blame is correct.

 

BTW It is common knowledge that hardest thing about Harvard is getting into Harvard.

Posted by: anon at September 29, 2014 01:22 PM (DEsFp)

437 Affirming that he is an affirmative Action Actor, acting affirmatively

Posted by: billypaintbrush at September 29, 2014 01:32 PM (cSSBx)

438 @436 More so for Harvard Law. Once a drug-dealing, foreign student, bong-sucking slacker gets in, he: (a) gets a figurehead sinecure at the review w/o ever publishing (b) graduates w/his classmates, 70% of whom do so with "honors" (c) gets a university job he puts on his resume despite that he is only documented as lecturing on Alinsky (d) only ever bills on one case for his law firm, suing a bank who wouldn't lend to his client who could not pay back a loan.

Posted by: Uh, Blackstone much? Ever hear of common law? at September 29, 2014 01:38 PM (gLt83)

439
@438

I'll have you know Barack Obama is the smartest man with the highest IQ ever to be elected to the presidency.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to sit down and eat my green beans so I can get ice cream.

Yay!  Ice cream!

Posted by: Historian Michael Beschloss

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 29, 2014 01:46 PM (kdS6q)

440 You DARE blaspheme against the Prophet DeGrasse Tyson?

Posted by: Ryther at September 29, 2014 02:08 PM (Nsvii)

441 As a "KABOOM" kid, you didn't have that color crayola.

Posted by: Stepchild at September 29, 2014 02:26 PM (cuy12)

442 Tyson is just another example of a equal opportunity hire ... if he was white he would be lucky to teach at a community college ... he's a well educated ignorant hack who plays on the race card for all it worth for fame and fortune ... he's obviously a lazy, slacker who just makes sh*t up that he thinks will help his liberal nonsense ...

Posted by: JeffC at September 29, 2014 02:30 PM (NogLd)

443 "The Sinbad of Science "

I'm stealing this.

Posted by: cheshirecat at September 29, 2014 02:43 PM (0UljF)

444 So...what are the Vegas odds that Ace will start humping NDT's garbage can in the next week?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 29, 2014 02:52 PM (VvOZ5)

445 Neil, named after a famous astronaut who first walked on the moon. Last name named after chicken. Posted by: rickb223 at September 29, 2014 04:51 PM (+/X+n) I thought he was named after Neil Pert of "Rush".

Posted by: Bill H at September 29, 2014 03:02 PM (3sZO1)

446 Posted by: Freotragic at September 29, 2014 06:15 PM (E992c) You're being tremendously generous with that theory. I personally would be happier if he would just man up and say he was wrong. It does happen, even with sciency types.

Posted by: Bill H at September 29, 2014 03:08 PM (3sZO1)

447 My memory tells me that George Clooney's wedding had a zero carbon footprint or something.

Posted by: Buffalobob at September 29, 2014 03:13 PM (s312G)

448

"I hate to argue with a Scientist,"

 

is he really a scientist though?? he has a b.a. in physics and a m.a. in PHILOSPHY of astrophysics and his phd is also doctorate in PHILOSPHY of astrophysics. sure, more science than say a art history major, but probably not much and when you throw in the advanced degrees in philosophy, that blows his credibility.

Posted by: chas at September 29, 2014 03:52 PM (id3bZ)

449 Isn't it obvious what happened? NDGT is a progressive. He doubtless receives and peruses various progaganda, which doubtless claimed Bush said this, doubtless on the basis of some mistranslation of an obscure Arabic Islamocrazy publication (doubtless bemoaning The Backlash Against Muslims) that only loony progagandists would take at face value. Also, it's pretty fucking clear NGDT is playing for the JayVee team, brainwise.

Posted by: TallDave at September 29, 2014 04:57 PM (/HtWy)

450 "It was burned, I say BURNED into my brain."

Posted by: Miley's Tongue at September 29, 2014 05:17 PM (R+h7Q)

451 Affirmative action strikes again!

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