February 27, 2006

Must Watch Video From MEMRI TV
— Ace

If you think white Christian men have tough words about Muslim extremism, wait 'till you get a load of Wafa Sultan, a Muslim woman, giving them the wood.

Wow.

Thanks to Ogre Gunner.

Posted by: Ace at 02:42 PM | Comments (42)
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1 Not to nitpick a nice thumping, but she clearly says she is not a Muslim, Christian or Jew. But rather, a "secular human being". Just sayin

Posted by: George at February 27, 2006 03:07 PM (O1SOG)

2 At the end of the video, it was typical - the imam (or whoeer he was) asid that since the woman was a secularist, she was a heretic and there was no point in addressing her.

Nice dodge there, man.

Posted by: Mark at February 27, 2006 03:08 PM (J9j1v)

3 Ha ha ha. . . I love how the anchor tried to pin the whole "Clash of Civilizations" thing on Sam Huntington, as if it was *his* fault.

That's like blaming Isaac Newton for gravity. Bud, he's just another f'ing observer.

Cheers,
Dave at Garfield Ridge

Posted by: Dave at Garfield Ridge at February 27, 2006 03:14 PM (kc9zT)

4 Holy cow, a quote from "Blue Thunder." That takes me back.

Posted by: bbeck at February 27, 2006 03:17 PM (qF8q3)

5 That was extremely brave, lucid and accurate. All the more since it comes from one of the most vulnerable.

I contrast this with an interview I just saw with the ever apologist Zogby who cautions we must be careful not to insult the Islamic world. Bullshit. Its high time the Islamic world learns to stop insulting the rest of the world. Aside from oil, which is nothing more than a historical accident, what has the Islamic community contibuted to the rest of the world except terror, strife and suffering?

That is one bright, gutsy woman. I hope someones got her back.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 27, 2006 03:22 PM (rnOZq)

6 The best shot was when she told the dude he was free to believe in stones as long as he didn't throw them at her. That was an allusion to the moon god's origins, I believe.

Posted by: BrewFan at February 27, 2006 03:29 PM (0AD+O)

7 Aside from oil, which is nothing more than a historical accident, what has the Islamic community contibuted to the rest of the world except terror, strife and suffering?

Zero.

No, really, the numeral zero, which enabled decimal numbering, algebra, and basically modern mathematics as we know it. Not exactly invented by Muslims, but adopted by them and spread to Europe by Fibonacci, who spent time in Northern Africa. Muslim scholars made a number of other valuable contributions to mathematics and science in the 8th, 9th, and 10th centuries.

However, in the "what have you done for me lately" department, Islamic society comes up pretty short.

Posted by: Alex at February 27, 2006 04:02 PM (fgyj8)

8 Brava, Wafa! She said what needed saying in spite of the moderator's efforts to shift the topic, the imam's efforts to set up a straw man.

We ought to keep an eye out for Wafa Sultan cuz I can bet you that some dolt will put a fatwa on her—the dude wrote the script already, she's "insulted islam, the profit (sic; he sure ain't a prophet), and the koran." That's a charge that like calling someone someone a racist or homophobe, is supposed to put a person on the defensive so that he abandons the field, apologizes abjectly, and yields the point. Good for Wafa that she brushed him aside. If he thesis is that people ought to deal rationally, in brushing his charge of heresy aside, she's insisting he play on her ground. He can't. So, she'll likely a target.

Posted by: Helen at February 27, 2006 04:03 PM (WklqH)

9 She really made that other guy look like a fool, too.

I've gotta give Al Jazeera some credit - not only for having her on, but she's getting a full opportunity to speak her piece without interruption or editing, which is more than any MSM outlet would give her!

Posted by: David C at February 27, 2006 04:05 PM (ppYNG)

10 Meanwhile, a "Death of God" art exhibit opens up in Mexico city, and Christians conspicuously do not riot in the streets.

I'm waiting for the fatwa on the Shriners, myself.

Posted by: Alex at February 27, 2006 04:06 PM (fgyj8)

11 Muslim scholars made a number of other valuable contributions to mathematics and science in the 8th, 9th, and 10th centuries.

Super. Neanderthals gave us fire. Not looking to go back quite that far. Something positive in the last, oh I don't know, 800 years would be nice.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 27, 2006 04:10 PM (rnOZq)

12 Ex-Muslim Ali Sina is really big on continuing the laugh fest on Islam. Sina considers Muslims to be narcissistic , and the best way to get to them is to destroy their self image.

Posted by: Iblis at February 27, 2006 04:15 PM (4GjVK)

13 Best Line ...

"Brother, you can believe in stones, just so long as you don't throw them at me."

Posted by: DDG at February 27, 2006 04:19 PM (/3kwi)

14 "what has the Islamic community contributed to the rest of the world except terror, strife and suffering?"

Nothing. Like all cults - and a death cult at that - it is almost entirely parasitic in nature. In any country where they rule, have you seen any innovation that *they* have initiated? They certainly know how to *use* technology, but the religion itself frowns on the idea of intellectual property rights. This is a religion stuck in the dark ages, and they want to pull others down to that level too.

Posted by: Morris at February 27, 2006 04:20 PM (xtn1C)

15 They've contributed some decent food. Not to mention the fine practice of ululation. (Dunno if I've mentioned it or not, but your old pal Sandy is a big fan of the "ulululululululululu!")

Posted by: sandy burger at February 27, 2006 04:23 PM (rGBYl)

16 Sandy, they've been doing that since before Allah was the moon god.

Posted by: Iblis at February 27, 2006 04:24 PM (4GjVK)

17 Testify, Sister, testify!

Posted by: H.D. Miller at February 27, 2006 04:35 PM (9XgVI)

18 God, that was fucking beautiful.

I wish Westerners were allowed to talk like this, without being labelled racists.

Posted by: Rip at February 27, 2006 05:02 PM (q2HEf)

19 A pants-down verbal spanking! As the kids say, you got served.

Posted by: Tom at February 27, 2006 05:06 PM (89h2e)

20 Two excellent articles on how little the Muslim world contributes to the advancement of human knowledge (sort of like our own dolt troll Mike):

http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2006/02/18/how-does-the-world-look-when-you-have-done-nothing-to-help-create-it/

http://www.dinocrat.com/archives/2006/02/20/more-on-the-patent-issue/

Posted by: max at February 27, 2006 05:12 PM (INrY9)

21 Wafa and Deeyah, man I'm totally in awe of their intelligence, passion, courage, and, in Deeyah's case, world class rack. I'm so going to link Wafa's slap down to some of my confused friends.

Keep up the good work, but do try and think straight about climate change...for the children.

Posted by: vonKreedon at February 27, 2006 05:14 PM (wQYDC)

22 vK,

sup.

good to see you again.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at February 27, 2006 05:26 PM (FrkSZ)

23 What a lady! She needs defending. She deserves her freedom. She exudes Truth.

I'm with Dinocrat. More of the "Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead" mentality is required. Today it should be "Jill Carroll alive, or Baghdad dead". Is it still possible to ask that the Ghost of Teddy Roosevelt be reincarnated into W for the rest of his term? Or might that thought be redundant?

Subsunk

Posted by: Subsunk at February 27, 2006 05:48 PM (qQLWK)

24 Bravo. Her message is dead-on; spoken with conviction, and no small amount of courage. I think the audio should be blasted over the loudspeakers all across the Muslim world!

She clearly 'Gets it' - How many others like her do you suppose there are?

Posted by: USCitizen at February 27, 2006 06:34 PM (ZpAjQ)

25 I like it when she pointed out all the contributions and modern advancements made by Jewish scientists. That's gotta hurt.

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 27, 2006 08:56 PM (we8HZ)

26 Her comment about jews not bombing German cafes was especially good, too.

Posted by: sandy burger at February 27, 2006 09:03 PM (NA4RK)

27 If that's not the most outstanding woman I've ever seen, the sun will not rise tomorrow! The Olympian top mark holds no candle to the depth and grasp of this womans woman! Awesome!!! Send me! I'll defend this one forever!

Posted by: forest hunter at February 28, 2006 02:32 AM (Fq6zR)

28 Can we get the unedited version?

Posted by: forest hunter at February 28, 2006 03:06 AM (Fq6zR)

29 I realize this woman is an American, but I'm hoping Iraq turns prosperous and stable and breeds a million of her.

One of the main problems in the ME seems to (fuck) shortage of divergent opinions. I'm surprised this wonderful lady was allowed on Al Jazeera.

(What's with the editing software? It wouldn't let me say b*, as in "to b* or not to b*", but it let me replace it with fuck.)

Posted by: adolfo velasquez at February 28, 2006 03:50 AM (6GLkz)

30 Unfortunately, she is not a Muslim. An atheist calling for reform in the Catholic church would carry about as much weight. Where are the "moderate Muslims" making these kind of statements? They are nowhere. "Moderate Muslims" are either silently rooting for the islamocrazies or are too scared to step up and challenge them. Frankly I'm not entirely convinced it is more the latter than the former.

Posted by: JeffK at February 28, 2006 05:27 AM (+vp9D)

31 Here's an interview with a 3 1/2 year old brainwashed girl. Sad.
http://stream.realimpact.net/rihurl.ram?file=realimpact/memri/memri_10-30-02_01.rm

Posted by: Duhgee at February 28, 2006 07:10 AM (NWV13)

32 Yeah! There's is nothing like the truth. Play it again and again all over the worlds media! I dare them to link it.

Posted by: splashtc at February 28, 2006 07:23 AM (zlay8)

33 Ho. Ly. Shit!
That's one brave woman. Bravo!
If you haven't read the above linked interview with Ali Sina at faithfreedom.org, it's a must-read.
Keep up the good work Ace.

Posted by: Brian the sailor at February 28, 2006 03:20 PM (FSF7J)

34 Alex,
"I'm waiting for the fatwa on the Shriners, myself."

Actually I've cammo'd the Harley, and we're at Defcon 3!

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