August 31, 2011

More On Indianola Screw-Ups: “The truth of the matter is you’ve got a couple old cowboys running a Tea Party and we’re not professional politicians"
— Ace

In my earlier post on this, I walked-back my criticism of Palin in updates, and walked-up my criticism of the bungling by the Tea Party of America, organizing the event.

The Other McCain has more on all of this. This group may have their hearts in the right places, but their attention to details seems low.

Davie Wiegel had previously talked to the Tea Party of America president, Ken Crow, and found him a little... off-script.

I met Crow in Iowa this month (I've been unsuccessful reaching him today) and he struck me as a classic Tea Party archetype -- an amateur with big Field of Dreams ambitions. He made me well aware of all the projects he was working on but seemed a little laconic for a guy putting on a mega-rally.
"It's gonna be televised on C-Span," he said, "and maybe Fox, too."

Reading up on Crow today, we find that he's a talky activist prone to showing how much he knows. For example, on Palin: "I know for a fact she ain't gonna run." That's the guy bringing Palin to Iowa for an event that reporters are attending because they wonder whether Palin will run!

Wiegel's headline is "Blame the Organizers, Not Palin." It does seem like it's much more of that.

As I eventually concluded in the last post, this is a real "What the hell were you thinking?" situation.

Before inviting O'Donnell, did it occur to them they should run that by their headliner/whole reason to have the rally in the first place?

Did none of them wonder about this at all? Did none of them wonder if Christine O'Donnell was really a top-tier player worthy of sharing the stage with Palin?

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1 Uhbama!

Posted by: Mjim at August 31, 2011 11:19 AM (rN9Na)

2 Did none of them wonder if Christine O'Donnell was really a top-tier player worthy of sharing the state with Palin? State or stage?

Posted by: Kim Kardashian at August 31, 2011 11:19 AM (14jKX)

3 Well, this gives the lie to the Tea Party being some well-funded and organized movement.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 11:19 AM (Xm1aB)

4 I never let anyone but my Momanger manage my events.

Posted by: Kim Kardashian at August 31, 2011 11:21 AM (14jKX)

5 On the plus side, they are clowns who didn't blow trillions of dollars.

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2011 11:22 AM (FcR7P)

6 So, the more I think about it, Palin is about one kooky claim away from being Ross Perot. This whole being coy, holding back announcing is getting too much.
If she claims some weird reason for backing out--she's Ross Perot; not in it for America, in it because some rubes believe she is sincere and that makes her feel important.

Posted by: Jimmuy at August 31, 2011 11:23 AM (kfoQv)

7 I don't even...

Posted by: E.M. August at August 31, 2011 11:23 AM (zeBNm)

8 I'm commenting down the memory hole!

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2011 11:23 AM (FcR7P)

9 him referring to who? link is broken...

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at August 31, 2011 11:47 AM (JNqU9)

10
Are we even up for the challenge in 2012?

Posted by: soothsayer at August 31, 2011 11:47 AM (G/zuv)

11 So, this reinforces my long-winded comment in the earlier thread: It's nothing about nothing. And yet, it'll go into the unconscious for lots of people, and the next BS story that comes along, it will reinforce this (false) notion that she's flaky.

Posted by: moviegique at August 31, 2011 11:48 AM (kNN2d)

12 O/T:  looks like the daily caller is doing a back door examination of how people feel about rick perry, asking:  "Is social security a ponzi scheme?" in their latest poll.

the results should make all your perry supports really happy.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 11:50 AM (k1rwm)

13 Palin just distanced herself from her very worst endorsement, endearing herself to a lot of pragmatic conservatives who were annoyed in 2010.

I realize this is just a benefit randomly gained from chaos, but hey, it's a benefit.

I sorely wish Palin were a Senator.  We need more Senators like her.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 11:50 AM (fF625)

14 This is still on Palin.

If you want to be taken seriously, you have to act seriously. Part of that is vetting people you do business with and making sure they have the ability to do what they say they are going to do.

If Palin just wants to be another activist this is fine. If she wants to be considered presidential material, she needs to start acting like it.

Posted by: DrewM. at August 31, 2011 11:50 AM (dw7rB)

15 As a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure, I don't see how this was mismanaged at all.

Posted by: Barack H. Obama at August 31, 2011 11:50 AM (LdAWK)

16 So.... the Koch brothers fault?

Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at August 31, 2011 11:50 AM (nRTou)

17 No one gives a shit.

Posted by: dagny at August 31, 2011 11:52 AM (P0l+a)

18  Sarah Palin should Give a speech at the same time as the SCOAMF. Thereby pre-empting anything he says for the  the 24 hour news cycle to follow.


Posted by: blogforce one at August 31, 2011 11:52 AM (lICB9)

19

Palin can't announce there now if she wanted to.

Who wants their announcement to be a total clusterfark, even if it wasn't her fault

Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 11:53 AM (wuv1c)

20 6 So, the more I think about it, Palin is about one kooky claim away from being Ross Perot. Christine O'Donnell. This whole being coy, holding back announcing is getting too much.

Posted by: Jimmuy at August 31, 2011 04:23 PM (kfoQv)

My take.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 31, 2011 11:54 AM (0N5pL)

21 There were some security concerns as well. No big deal. All worked out and it will be awesome!

Posted by: Dan at August 31, 2011 11:54 AM (mXBxH)

22 Ross Perot was talking about illegal immigration and the national debt in 1992. He was right about those things in 1992. It would have been a good thing if the GOP establishment had done something about those issues starting twenty years ago, instead of telling Ross Perot's supporters, "Where else you gonna go, huh?"

Posted by: Mike James at August 31, 2011 11:55 AM (FMUMi)

23 Drew is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

I mean that in a nice way.

Posted by: cherry pi at August 31, 2011 11:56 AM (OhYCU)

24

This chaos is the inevitable result of the Federal Reserve and our involvement in imperialistic military excursions! Only one brave, clear-thinking American Patriot can clean up this mess and organize a Tea Party rally consistent with constitutional principles of liberty: RAWN PAWL!!1!

Posted by: The Guy Who Brings Up RAWN PAWL!!1! at August 31, 2011 11:56 AM (Vy1lZ)

25

I think COD is on a book tour, so she's probably offering to show up anywhere for free if they let her peddle her book?

Is you kid having a Bar Mitzvah? She'll book it.

Is you kid having a communion? She'll book it.

Is it your parants 30th anniversary party? She'll book it.

Family Funeral? She'll give the Eulogy if you let her devote 15% of it to her book.

Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 11:56 AM (wuv1c)

26 I smell yet another Paultard infiltration.

Posted by: Barbarian at August 31, 2011 11:56 AM (EL+OC)

27 Sarah Palin can call her own news conference at will to announce whatever.

Posted by: maverick muse at August 31, 2011 11:56 AM (lpWVn)

28

And the spammer gets into the first 12 comments.

On topic, I love everyone's idea of Palin scheduling a speech at the same time as the stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure's jobs bs.

Posted by: Soccer coach falling...falling..splat! at August 31, 2011 11:57 AM (qZD43)

29  Question; If Sarah Palin has good poll numbers  close to or equal to Rick Perry VS the SCOAMF by, say, November/ December 2011<  Would she be the first choice of many who doubt her electability now?  I think so.

Posted by: blogforce one at August 31, 2011 11:57 AM (lICB9)

30 Christine will eat Crow to get on stage.

Posted by: Christine O at August 31, 2011 11:57 AM (1SmCr)

31 At some point, besides asking why she quite the governorship, and why she promotes abstinence but can't get the idea across to two of her five children, people will wonder why she would give up the millions she is making on her books and as a fox news analyst and on her speaking engagements.  If you ask most people, with the influence she has, they would not understand her putting herself in a position to lose and lose big.  Fox news might not want to pay so much for a failed presidential primary candidate and the speaking fees would surely go down and the books might not sell as well.  At that point you ask yourself if she has half a brain.  The I'm so patriotic and I love my country can only go so far especially when she enjoys such influence on things now.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 11:57 AM (k1rwm)

32 Ken Crowe also designed the new Superman outfit

Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 11:57 AM (wuv1c)

33 Boehner said no, we won't be ready by then.  You can stop by the next night, though, if you're done showboating.  Fucking hilarious.

Posted by: Blacksheep at August 31, 2011 11:58 AM (8/DeP)

34 Saw this posted on a Facebook page:

Obama wakes up one night, there is George Washington's ghost! He says, " George how can I help this country?"
Washington replies, "Be honest with the people like I was!"
Obama goes back to sleep and awakes again. This time its' Thomas Jefferson's ghost! He says "Tom how can I help this country?"
Jefferson says, "Love the constitution like I did!"
Waking up again there is Abe Lincoln's ghost, he says "Abe how can I help this country?"
Abe replies, "Go see a play."




Posted by: Sponge at August 31, 2011 11:58 AM (UK9cE)

35

>>>Question; If Sarah Palin has good poll numbers close to or equal to Rick Perry VS the SCOAMF by, say, November/ December 2011< Would she be the first choice of many who doubt her electability now? I think so.

I've got a better question? If Sarah Palin won the election in 2012 against Obama would you unbelievers doubt her electability now????

I thought so you dirty RINO Nerfherders

Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 11:58 AM (wuv1c)

36 COD is clearly a witch.  She put a spell on the TP organizer.

Posted by: cherry pi at August 31, 2011 11:59 AM (OhYCU)

37

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:57 PM (k1rwm)

 

Go to Hell curious.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 31, 2011 11:59 AM (326rv)

38 Twofer one!111!!1! Oh boy, this will be the best Labor Day ever!11!!11

Posted by: Pooter Hound at August 31, 2011 11:59 AM (le5qc)

39 I have never seen so many funny new words...

Nerfherders

Allahpenis

hehe

Posted by: cherry pi at August 31, 2011 11:59 AM (OhYCU)

40

At some point, besides asking why she quite the governorship

I'm sorry, she was quite what about the governorship? 

Posted by: alexthechick at August 31, 2011 11:59 AM (VtjlW)

41 @6: "So, the more I think about it, Palin is about one kooky claim away from being Ross Perot." Bingo. Absolutely correct. Maybe just a tiny bit of recent Donald Trump thrown in for good measure.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 31, 2011 11:59 AM (UsjBj)

42 I'm pretty sure I saw post #31 scrawled in Sharpie a 10x14 poster board taped to a van in my neighborhood.

Posted by: moviegique at August 31, 2011 12:00 PM (kNN2d)

43  Palin would torch The SCOAMF"s bullshit "jobs" sack of shit speech with a speech of her own.  It would be a nice palate cleanser!

Posted by: blogforce one at August 31, 2011 12:00 PM (lICB9)

44 This makes sense. God Bless the Tea Party Movement, but they (we) are amateurs at this.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 31, 2011 12:00 PM (ujg0T)

45 What the hell is going on with American politics today? Did I suddenly wake up in an amatuer hour universe?

Posted by: William at August 31, 2011 12:01 PM (dE2JB)

46 Those worried about a Palin third party run are badly misunderstanding her.  She's a team player to that extent.  She's not crazy.  In fact, she's such a team player that she badly tarnished herself to endorse Mccain for Senate.

I can think of very few people who sacrificed as much for the GOP.  She basically ruined her amazing political career the day she agreed to shore up Mccain's shitty campaign.  She had to know it was a huge risk and that she was a bit in over her head (not an insult against her).

She's one of the good guys.  She's not perfect, but nobody else is either.

Posted by: Dustin at August 31, 2011 12:02 PM (fF625)

47 Politics should be like porn. We should prefer the amateurs. There's less chance they're faking and just in it for the money.

Posted by: moviegique at August 31, 2011 12:02 PM (kNN2d)

48 45 What the hell is going on with American politics today? Did I suddenly wake up in an amatuer hour universe?

Posted by: William at August 31, 2011 05:01 PM (dE2JB)

*Ahem* 2008...

Posted by: KG at August 31, 2011 12:02 PM (LD21B)

49 Yes but Ross Perot *voters* ended up wanting to destroy each other. Plus I think Ross Perot waas the original quitter before McCain even thought of suspending his....

Posted by: Kim Kardashian at August 31, 2011 12:03 PM (14jKX)

50

Calling to see if I have jury duty tomorrow...

 

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 31, 2011 12:03 PM (Qjh0I)

51  # 31, city gal  doesn't shave her package, so therefore she has nothing to say that interests me...

Posted by: blogforce one at August 31, 2011 12:03 PM (lICB9)

52 Did none of them wonder about this at all? Did none of them wonder if Christine O'Donnell was really a top-tier player worthy of sharing the stage with Palin?

Yeah. What to gain with having O'D.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at August 31, 2011 12:03 PM (bAL0J)

53 Obama really stepped in it.  Not only did Boehner just cleverly cram O's power move back up his ass, now O has to decide whether to pre-empt the first NFL game of the season the following night.  And how can he not?  I mean, this is super fucking important, right?  Let's ask spokesweasel Jay Carney what he thinks.

Reverse. Midas. Touch.

Posted by: Blacksheep at August 31, 2011 12:04 PM (8/DeP)

54 45 What the hell is going on with American politics today? Did I suddenly wake up in an amatuer hour universe?

Libertarians.

Posted by: Barbarian at August 31, 2011 12:04 PM (EL+OC)

55 And the verdict is...No.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 31, 2011 12:04 PM (Qjh0I)

56 I dunno, I have no comment other than..Fuck Weigel. He's a douchebag

Posted by: beedubya at August 31, 2011 12:05 PM (AnTyA)

57 now O has to decide whether to pre-empt the first NFL game of the season the following night.  And how can he not?
Posted by: Blacksheep at August 31, 2011 05:04 PM (8/DeP)

Oh, how I hope he does. We need a German word for what results.

Posted by: KG at August 31, 2011 12:05 PM (LD21B)

58 12 the results should make all your perry supports really happy.
__________

Those would be real columns instead of fake styrofoam ones, right? 'Cause I'm sure Perry requires manly supports.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 31, 2011 12:06 PM (NmR1a)

59 Ya Know, Ya Know. Since Fox insists on having the 5 crap on, we should have a 5 thread every day to dump on beckel

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 31, 2011 12:07 PM (aYQHH)

60 This whole debacle is unquestioningly the fault of Ken Crow.

Posted by: David Weigel at August 31, 2011 12:08 PM (Vy1lZ)

61 Hollywood is going full retard.  Just in time the election, "College Republicans" will hit theaters.

Before he was deputy chief of staff to former president George W. Bush, Karl Rove was a college Republican. “There Will Be Blood” star Paul Dano will reenact this part of Rove’s university days in the upcoming movie “College Republicans,” according to TheWrap.

Producer Maya Browne said the movie “is about when Karl Rove and Lee Atwater first met, which is when Karl Rove ran for president of the College Republicans, and that’s when they sort of discovered dirty tricks. It’s interesting to see them take that journey together.” Scheduled to begin shooting this fall, “College Republicans” is slated for a 2012 release and will be directed by “Slacker” director Richard Linklater.

Link

Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at August 31, 2011 12:08 PM (nRTou)

62 The Five is almost unwatchable

Posted by: cherry pi at August 31, 2011 12:08 PM (OhYCU)

63

>>>Obama really stepped in it. Not only did Boehner just cleverly cram O's power move back up his ass, now O has to decide whether to pre-empt the first NFL game of the season the following night. And how can he not? I mean, this is super fucking important, right? Let's ask spokesweasel Jay Carney what he thinks.

I don't know. I think everyone is missing one key item.

What if NBC decides to postpone the Republican debate unilaterally. Thereby forcing Boehner's hand.

Is there a sane person alive who doesn't think NBC is in the tank for Obama?

I'm guessing NBC tells the GOP that they are moving the debate.

Obama won't have to do anything

Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 12:09 PM (wuv1c)

64 O'Donnell was good enough to very publicly endorse, almost single-handedly handing her a Senate primary win.  Not good enough to speak at the same event.  Got it.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if the Tea Party group was a bit disorganized and amateurish, and I don't know what the hell they were thinking asking the national embarrassment that is Christine O'Donnell to speak.  Still, Palin's diva act is getting tiresome.

Tomorrow she'll threaten to cancel again if they don't provide a large bowl of M&Ms with all the brown ones picked out.


Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 31, 2011 12:10 PM (SY2Kh)

65 Let's say I was doing job interviews and a candidate comes in-and she was given a fabulous position by her old company but all she seems to do is talk trash about that old company.... Think I'm going to hire her? Maybe for reality TV.... Plus her fans are really nasty, they think they can bash people into voting for her. I'm much more into carrots. Then Palin's fans get all mad at Ace for putting up a photo of Palin getting the Grover Norquist handshake but they love Michelle Malkin when she photo shops Rick Perry with a green band aid across his forehead and a syringe in his hands.

Posted by: Kim Kardashian at August 31, 2011 12:10 PM (14jKX)

66

54 45 What the hell is going on with American politics today? Did I suddenly wake up in an amatuer hour universe?

Frightening when even the good guys keep tripping over their own dicks!

Only the Gipper managed to herd cats, where is he now?

Posted by: 7HEAVENS at August 31, 2011 12:10 PM (tuCVl)

67 Oh, how I hope he does. We need a German word for what results.

Posted by: KG at August 31, 2011 05:05 PM (LD21B)



ClüsterFück


Posted by: Sponge at August 31, 2011 12:10 PM (UK9cE)

68 @ 57 Scheissendreck!

Posted by: Elize Nayden at August 31, 2011 12:11 PM (oJnjm)

69 What if NBC decides to postpone the Republican debate unilaterally. Thereby forcing Boehner's hand. Is there a sane person alive who doesn't think NBC is in the tank for Obama? I'm guessing NBC tells the GOP that they are moving the debate. Obama won't have to do anything Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 05:09 PM (wuv1c) But nobody, and mean NO BODY, watches NBC or MSNBC, so who would even notice?

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 31, 2011 12:12 PM (aYQHH)

70 Can Rick Perry schedule an infomercial on How To Shoot Coyotes when Sparky plans to read his plan, framework, or general guidelines to better government through spending and personal control? Just askin.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 31, 2011 12:13 PM (0M3AQ)

71

Is there a sane person alive who doesn't think NBC is in the tank for Obama?

I'm guessing NBC tells the GOP that they are moving the debate.

Obama won't have to do anything

Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 05:09 PM (wuv1c)



NBC will move it to Thursday and the GOP candidates will tell them to pound sand.....if they have any stones.

They're shrewd, so they'll put the GOP'ers up against football and pray for no viewers.

Posted by: Sponge at August 31, 2011 12:13 PM (UK9cE)

72 I don't think NBC has the ability to just up and say we are moving the debate. Refuse to air it? Why? Because Obama's feelings got hurt? That would actually be a wonderful thing. Let's hope NBC does refuse to air the debate.

Posted by: Dave at August 31, 2011 12:14 PM (Xm1aB)

73

At that point you ask yourself if she has half a brain. The I'm so patriotic and I love my country can only go so far especially when she enjoys such influence on things now.

Posted by: city gal at August 31, 2011 04:57 PM (k1rwm)

Why did the annoying skank troll avoid the thread below that completely ruins her claim of Obama putting the GOP in a Lose/lose situation?  And she must have more than half a brain because she's obviously smarter than you.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 12:14 PM (GULKT)

74 I'm sure every candidate and/or politician has stories like this: scheduling screw-ups and what have you. But we never hear about them, because a) they're not given the anal level of scrutiny that Palin is, and b) the media has no desire to portray them all as "flaky". They lie to us over and over again, but let's keep on swallowing what they're shoveling!

Posted by: tsj017 at August 31, 2011 12:14 PM (4YUWF)

75 69 What if NBC decides to postpone the Republican debate unilaterally. Thereby forcing Boehner's hand.

Is there a sane person alive who doesn't think NBC is in the tank for Obama?

I'm guessing NBC tells the GOP that they are moving the debate.

Obama won't have to do anything

Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 05:09 PM (wuv1c)

But nobody, and mean NO BODY, watches NBC or MSNBC, so who would even notice?     Does NBC have the Thursday night game? If so, ask them to move it for teh won. Everbody will understand - its important and stuff.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 31, 2011 12:14 PM (0M3AQ)

76 Is it racist to deny a child a “GI Joe with the KungFu grip” if you already owe $250,000 to the credit card companies and your Chinese landlord is threatening to evict you from your house ?

Posted by: James Loughner at August 31, 2011 12:14 PM (e8kgV)

77 Ben, Did you ever try my Scotch drinking technique?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 31, 2011 12:15 PM (OW0nw)

78 Plus her unfavorables in the latest national Quinnipiac poll are higher than Hillary's from Inside Clinton's Cigar Box.

Posted by: Kim Kardashian at August 31, 2011 12:16 PM (14jKX)

79 If you want to be taken seriously, you have to act seriously. Part of that is vetting people you do business with and making sure they have the ability to do what they say they are going to do.

Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Now, onto the excerpt from Drew's comment:

Exactly.  If you're a professional, it behooves you to ensure that those with whom you do business are all professional, because when they're not, that reflects poorly on you.

The "fault" may all lie with the dis-organizers.  The blame (fair or not) will still fall on Palin.  Could she have made them more professional?  Maybe, maybe not.  Her staff should have been on top of this from the moment they agreed to go, and, if the venue was too unprofessional, should have pulled out (as gracefully as possible) weeks ago.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 12:17 PM (8y9MW)

80 Still, Palin's diva act is getting tiresome.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 31, 2011 05:10 PM (SY2Kh)

Speaking of diva acts...

Posted by: cherry pi at August 31, 2011 12:17 PM (OhYCU)

81 Or the percentage of junk in my trunk. Your mileage may vary.

Posted by: Kim Kardashian at August 31, 2011 12:17 PM (14jKX)

82 They aren't even amateur  politicians, which is fine, but damn, they're stupid. Certainly Palin is not running, not if she is allowing these guys to run an event.

Posted by: Pooter Hound at August 31, 2011 12:18 PM (le5qc)

83 77, Is it intravenously?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 31, 2011 12:18 PM (ZDUD4)

84

I don't know. I think everyone is missing one key item.

What if NBC decides to postpone the Republican debate unilaterally. Thereby forcing Boehner's hand.

Is there a sane person alive who doesn't think NBC is in the tank for Obama?

I'm guessing NBC tells the GOP that they are moving the debate.

Obama won't have to do anything

Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 05:09 PM (wuv1c)

Aren't the debates usually done with a sort of dual-sponsorship of the event?  You know the media, and whoever is technically hosting the debate which in this case would be The Reagan Foundation?  So wouldn't they be able to prevent NBC from rescheduling by refusing to agree to it.  I would think that would be in the contract somewhere.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 12:18 PM (GULKT)

85 I honestly don't know what the Wasilla Messiah's problem with all this is. COD was certainly good enough for the La Cuda Seal of Approval last fall, back when she was busy searching the bushes for spies and figuring out how much of her millions in campaign donations she could funnel into her personal bank account.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 31, 2011 12:18 PM (Nrq/O)

86 You know, a lot of you commenters tuck your noses in Ace's ass just like you used to inhale deeply of Charles Johnson's ball sweat.

OK, Ace doesn't like Palin. Got it. Do you all have to 'me too,' 'me too,' 'me too' to the nth degree?

Posted by: Sphynx at August 31, 2011 12:19 PM (fEmj2)

87

Posted by: Kim Kardashian at August 31, 2011 05:16 PM

Just post pictures of your ass, OK?

Posted by: fluffy at August 31, 2011 12:19 PM (3SvjA)

88 how much of her millions in campaign donations she could funnel into her personal bank account.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 31, 2011 05:18 PM (Nrq/O)

Really, last I heard COD was cleared of such charges.

Posted by: KG at August 31, 2011 12:19 PM (LD21B)

89 Posted by: tsj017 at August 31, 2011 05:14 PM (4YUWF)

Yep, that's it.  We should ignore the stories from organizers and insiders about these screw-ups, because paying them any attention is just buying into the "Lame-stream Media" bias.  Yep.

Or, maybe, they get so much scrutiny because other candidates really don't have this level of SNAFU by the time they're on the national stage.

Look, it doesn't matter if its her fault or not.  I tend to agree (on the facts) with ace and others who are saying, "this was poorly organized, blame the organizers."  However, there is a level of professionalism (for wont of a better term) I expect from my party leadership, and part of that professionalism is dealing with this kind of thing in such a way that the public doesn't need to know about it.  So far, Palin and her team have not mastered that vital skill.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 12:21 PM (8y9MW)

90 I've noticed a certain Hemingwayesque terseness among the Palinistas of late.  It's refreshing.

Posted by: Damn Dirty RINO at August 31, 2011 12:22 PM (+iwM3)

91

Obama won't have to do anything

Posted by: Ben at August 31, 2011 05:09 PM (wuv1c)

There is that and it would be another embarrassing mistake for them.

At this point, they don't care or are clueless. I'm guessing both.

They're burying themselves and I like it!

Posted by: ErikW at August 31, 2011 12:22 PM (Z5uxZ)

92

NBC has the opening NFL game on Thursday night @8:30et

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 31, 2011 12:22 PM (0OJd9)

93 @65 Let's say I was doing job interviews and a candidate comes in-and she was given a fabulous position by her old company but all she seems to do is talk trash about that old company.... Think I'm going to hire her? If her last job was with Enron, and she's the one who made sure they fired the corrupt officials before it could blow up into a company-killing scandal… I guess it would depend on whether you’re one of the corrupt officials in your company.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2011 12:23 PM (QF8uk)

94 Posted by: Sphynx at August 31, 2011 05:19 PM (fEmj2)

Oh, goody.  The C4P crowd has shown up.  My day is complete.

Riddle me this: Why don't you go away?
I may need to think up better riddles...

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 31, 2011 12:23 PM (8y9MW)

95 She really brought that upon herself. If she had not made such a secret out of her decision to run or not, her schedule and her speaking gigs would not be under such scrutiny. We would never have heard about that rally or the mess up.

Posted by: Elize Nayden at August 31, 2011 12:24 PM (oJnjm)

96 Sorry this thread's not big enough.

Posted by: Kim Kardashian at August 31, 2011 12:24 PM (14jKX)

97 But it's mostly ass.

Posted by: oblig. at August 31, 2011 12:26 PM (xvZW9)

98

Sorry this thread's not big enough.

Don't you know about TinyURL?

Posted by: fluffy at August 31, 2011 12:26 PM (3SvjA)

99 >>>OK, Ace doesn't like Palin. Got it. Do you all have to 'me too,' 'me too,' 'me too' to the nth degree? I'd like to be heard on this. The sustaining myth of many Palin supporters is that she actually has a large amount of grassroots support but "establishment" figures like Karl Rove (or, in a pinch, me) undermine her. This sets up a convenient "Silent Majority" myth, wherein there is a huge virtuous popular movement in her favor, and only manipulators in positions of public influence who keep her down. This is why I constantly throw polls at you -- to disabuse you of this myth. They're not kissing up to me. Your assumption that Palin remains popular *as a presidential candidate* is misplaced. a majority of *republicans* doubt her qualifications and do not want her to be the nominee. In iowa-- tailor made for Pailin -- she gets 10% of poll support, still losing easily to Rick Perry (at 27% or so) and others (Bachmann and Paul, I think). You continue to insist agaisnt the available evidence that Palin is supported by a mass movement. She is not. She is supported by around 10% of the party. Now, more than that LIKE her. But they don't like her for President. But you've insulated yourself from facts; you just don't want to hear them. So the only explanation that's acceptable is a variation of "the establishment is trying to destroy her and the 'sheeple' believe them."

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 12:28 PM (nj1bB)

100 Krugman worked for Enron-doesn't stop the cognitive dissonance of Liberal worship for him. So you might have a point... Thing is she hates her new company too. FOX. Now she's not happy with the Tea Party people she let organize this event. I'm Armenian and I can smell a Balkanizer from my porch. (Okay that was just mean. I'm off to go watch b-ball practice.)

Posted by: Kim Kardashian at August 31, 2011 12:29 PM (14jKX)

101

Aren't the debates usually done with a sort of dual-sponsorship of the event?  You know the media, and whoever is technically hosting the debate which in this case would be The Reagan Foundation?  So wouldn't they be able to prevent NBC from rescheduling by refusing to agree to it.  I would think that would be in the contract somewhere.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 05:18 PM

This was the question that I asked a couple of threads ago.  TV time ain't cheap and programs are scheduled months in advance so that advertisers can specifically buy time in them.  Who is paying and what does the contract say about cancellations?

Posted by: huerfano at August 31, 2011 12:29 PM (kD+se)

102 OK, Ace doesn't like Palin. Got it. Do you all have to 'me too,' 'me too,' 'me too' to the nth degree?

Posted by: Sphynx at August 31, 2011 05:19 PM (fEmj2)

I find myself in the position of defending Palin a great deal -- whenever there is a particularly egregious and unsubstantiated attack. Which is a little awkward because I'm not a supporter. I don't despise the woman; I'm just not a fan. I will say, however, that the thing I find most off-putting about her are her supporters. They're downright creepy in their laser-focused devotion to the woman. Much like Obama acolytes.

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at August 31, 2011 12:30 PM (/lKQw)

103  OK ACE, IF he poll numbers were favorable, would you support her? Just asking

Posted by: blogforce one at August 31, 2011 12:30 PM (lICB9)

104 Links to pics of KK's ass will cause the intertubes to be on the backside of peak pixles.  In less than 18 months, the supply of proven recoverable pixles will be exhausted.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 31, 2011 12:31 PM (4q5tP)

105 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 31, 2011 12:35 PM (1Nzoh)

106  Were Ronald Wilson Reagans Devoted supporters "downright creepy" too, They were equally fervent in their support of the Gipper. Just asking ACE.

Posted by: blogforce one at August 31, 2011 12:35 PM (lICB9)

107 Did anyone ever notice that Google image search results for "Rubio" are the polar opposite of the results for "Santorum"?

Posted by: Damn Dirty RINO at August 31, 2011 12:36 PM (+iwM3)

108 Ace, Her popularity (or lack thereof) notwithstanding, you had to walk back your original post a bit. (Not "had to", really, see Geller, Spencer, but were man enough to.) My only observation is that the assault on her has been more-or-less continuous, and very often stuff that had to be walked back. I don't know how she could NOT be unpopular after that. But I think a substantial portion of this is unjust. Fairness ain't got nothin' to do with it, I know, but it irritates me personally to see it work.

Posted by: moviegique at August 31, 2011 12:38 PM (kNN2d)

109 >>>OK ACE, IF he poll numbers were favorable, would you support her? Just asking If she were actually ballpark electable, I would take her more seriously as a candidate, yes. I might re-evaluate some problems I have with her and decide "Eh, if the public isn't bothered, so be it." I honestly don't know if Palin's hardest-core supporters are even interested in politics anymore. What they seem interested in, to the exclusion of all else, is Palin, as personal figure. We can talk all day about the absolute imperative of removing Barack Hussein Obama from office, as our top priority, but I don't think some of Palin supporters prioritize that as job one. I think they prioritize electing Sarah Palin, specifically, as job one, and if the nominee isn't palin, they don't care so much about evicting Obama.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 12:38 PM (nj1bB)

110

"They're not kissing up to me."

His pouty lower lip made her nether regions moist with anticipation, as her heaving bosom strained against the buttons on her blouse.

Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at August 31, 2011 12:39 PM (2Mtxm)

Posted by: Damn Dirty RINO at August 31, 2011 12:43 PM (+iwM3)

112 >>> Were Ronald Wilson Reagans Devoted supporters "downright creepy" too, They were equally fervent in their support of the Gipper. Just asking ACE. That was someone else's line. I don't think Palin is Reagan, FYI.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 12:44 PM (nj1bB)

113 @Ace: Your assumption that Palin remains popular *as a presidential candidate* is misplaced. a majority of *republicans* doubt her qualifications and do not want her to be the nominee.


When you are immersed head first and heels covered in political wonk think you fail to see an overview. The tuned in, the connected, like Ace readers and lefty blog addicts are on the edge of their seats, picking the winning horses of the upcoming race, debating, arguing, fighting.

The rest of the country is barely aware there is a presidential election coming.

BHO wasn't elected because of his politics (who knew at the time what they were? well, the clued in knew they were lefty beliefs). He was elected because of his charisma and his on-camera appeal and his stirring but vacuous words.

Like it or not, being elected president by voters, most of whom don't know shit about policy, history or the Constitution, depends on eye appeal, personality, charisma and the ability to influence emotions.

I've got nothing against Perry other than his big Trans Texas Corridor mess. He's my governor and he'd make a decent president, I imagine. And I'll vote for him if he's the nominee.

I just happen to be of the opinion that Palin's charisma and charm outshines Perry's. That kind of thing gets the vote of the unwashed as mentioned above. And the fact that she can kick the shit out of status quo politics helps.  The misspeaks, the awkward phrases, shows me she's a real person and doesn't have a Ph. D. in B.S.

You're discounting all the horses in the race before they round the first turn, hell before the starting gun. Things and attitudes and favorites change quickly in a primary race.

But in the end we get who is nominated. Your battle should be with those first few primary states. Just remember who and what they gave us last time for a candidate.

Posted by: Sphynx at August 31, 2011 12:49 PM (fEmj2)

114  ACE, I'd have to say virtually every Palin supporter wants the SCOAMF out as much as you or I.  As far as "ballpark electable"? The  SCOAMF polls at best,51% against her in head to head matchups with large undecideds. Shit, if the SCOAMF polls that way NOW against her, He is toast whomever gets the nomination. Including Sarah Palin. He numbers can only go up . His can only go down. The laws of political gravity ACE.  

Posted by: blogforce one at August 31, 2011 12:49 PM (lICB9)

115 I just saw numbers that read: Romney 46 Obama 40 Perry 44 Obama 40 And in a separate poll: Obama 51 Palin 33 If Obama shows weakness with Perry and Romney why does this same weakness vanish when he's run against Palin?

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 12:52 PM (nj1bB)

116 I want the SCOAMF fired.

I also think Sarah Palin should be allowed to run in the primary and see if she can win the nomination.  If she can, then maybe the polls might be wrong about her electability.

If she can't, then so be it.

Her biggest detractors still seem like much bigger @ssholes than her most fervent supporters, but I'm biased.

Posted by: Kensington at August 31, 2011 12:53 PM (znT2j)

117

Her biggest detractors still seem like much bigger @ssholes than her most fervent supporters, but I'm biased.

Posted by: Kensington at August 31, 2011 05:53 PM (znT2j)

They're the exact same coin.  Just different sides of it. 

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 12:55 PM (GULKT)

118 >>>I just happen to be of the opinion that Palin's charisma and charm outshines Perry's. Charisma and charm are not the only qualifications or else we'd have actors and actresses as president all the time. You need substance, too. Experience. Results. Ability to even get people to consider you qualified for the office. >>> That kind of thing gets the vote of the unwashed as mentioned above. No it doesn't. See Christine O'Donnell. Charm wins it for you IF you've checked the "qualified and experienced" box already. If you haen't checked that box charm cannot save you. >>> And the fact that she can kick the shit out of status quo politics helps. How? Results flow from political power. If Palin got into office she'd be weak. >>> The misspeaks, the awkward phrases, shows me she's a real person and doesn't have a Ph. D. in B.S If you want to cast a negative as positive that's your own business. I don't think these are disqualifying things, but I think it's desperate to cast what most people would think is a weakness as a strength, because it proves "Palin's just like average folks." I don't want average folks in the presidency. I think it's harder than that.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 12:55 PM (nj1bB)

119 "If Obama shows weakness with Perry and Romney why does this same weakness vanish when he's run against Palin?"

It could be because she's still too much of a joke to too many people, including, sadly, those on the Right. 

I'm thinking that, once Perry and Romney start to get the Palinization treatment from the MFM, their numbers will go down.  I'll bet SNL, for example, is lining up actors to do their best Perry/Romney impersonations as we speak.

The good news is that there's still a primary season to work this out.

If she's the SCOAMF that her detractors say she is, she should be trounced in the primaries pretty decisively.

Posted by: Kensington at August 31, 2011 12:57 PM (znT2j)

120 >>>It could be because she's still too much of a joke to too many people, including, sadly, those on the Right. Any evidence this situation has changed in a positive direction in the past year? You guys just keep insisting she'll turn this all around when she chooses to.

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 12:59 PM (nj1bB)

121 I want the SCOAMF fired.

I also think Sarah Palin should be allowed to run in the primary and see if she can win the nomination.  If she can, then maybe the polls might be wrong about her electability.

Sigh... I'm getting kinda tired of that stupid argument.

I'll say it again- performance in a party primary has approximately ZERO correlation to a candidate's electability in the general election.  When people like me talk about Palin being unelectable, we're talking about the general.

A candidate could win 100% of the vote in a ten person primary race and still get slaughtered by 20 points in the general.  Republicans- and especially conservative Republicans- are a minority.  The primaries and general elections have completely different voter demographics.

Nobody is barring her from running, she has every right to.  However, if advancing the GOP and conservative principles are more important to her than personal fame and fortune, she shouldn't.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 31, 2011 01:00 PM (SY2Kh)

122 "Charisma and charm are not the only qualifications or else we'd have actors and actresses as president all the time.

You need substance, too. Experience. Results. Ability to even get people to consider you qualified for the office."

You know she actually had a pretty impressive resume before she came on the national stage in 2008.  Sometimes some of you guys act like she just wandered in off the set of America's Next Top Hooker.

They don't just hand out the governorship of Alaska at random.

Posted by: Kensington at August 31, 2011 01:00 PM (znT2j)

123  Sarry, but Sarah Palin is not "average" she has political skills second to none IMHO.  ACE< ; are you of the opinion that she is "average"? Also a Presidency is made or broken by the people who the President hires. Sarah Palin, If elected, Could very well be just what the doctor ordered to fix what's wrong with this nation.

Posted by: blogforce one at August 31, 2011 01:01 PM (lICB9)

124 "Any evidence this situation has changed in a positive direction in the past year?

You guys just keep insisting she'll turn this all around when she chooses to."

Careful.  Don't put words in my mouth.  I'm making no such insistence.  I'm just willing to give her more time to try.

Posted by: Kensington at August 31, 2011 01:01 PM (znT2j)

125 Sarry, but Sarah Palin is not "average" she has political skills second to none IMHO.  ACE< ; are you of the opinion that she is "average"? Also a Presidency is made or broken by the people who the President hires. Sarah Palin, If elected, Could very well be just what the doctor ordered to fix what's wrong with this nation.

Right- and she's managed to parlay those awesomely awesome political skills into a 59% disapproval rating.

As to her hires, she has a history of hiring people based more on their personal devotion than competence or experience. 

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 31, 2011 01:07 PM (SY2Kh)

126 >>>You know she actually had a pretty impressive resume before she came on the national stage in 2008. Um. For a VICE president. You never seem to concede that distinction. I never thought she was ready to be president when she was nominated to be vice president-- but I thought she was ready to be vice president, and would have time in office to grow. I never assumed the two were the same. Did you?

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2011 01:08 PM (nj1bB)

127 I don't know about everyone else, but I certainly feel more comfortable about her judgment after today.

Posted by: Damn Dirty RINO at August 31, 2011 01:09 PM (+iwM3)

128 Hey, ace not that hearing the same stuff about palin over and over again from supporters and detractors isn't a blast, but did you know that dum-dum has returned?  He's proudonkey and is in the "Next Step:..." thread.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 01:11 PM (GULKT)

129 I'm sorry, all this Perry worship is confusing me.  Can someone please tell me what exactly Perry has done as governor?  If your answer has to do with Texas unemployment or Texas economic growth, then please tell me exactly what he has done to improve them besides staying out of the way.  

Posted by: Call Me Ishmael at August 31, 2011 01:12 PM (+g/Xl)

130

then please tell me exactly what he has done to improve them besides staying out of the way.

Posted by: Call Me Ishmael at August 31, 2011 06:12 PM (+g/Xl)

Even if that's all he's done, its wonderful because it tells companies that he's not going to be fucking around with them if they are located in a place where he is in charge.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2011 01:15 PM (GULKT)

131 "Um. For a VICE president. You never seem to concede that distinction."

Yeah, I found her resume impressive enough to warrant the Presidency.  Still do.  Remember, also, that she was going up against Barack Obama, who even in 2008 was still self-evidently a SCOAMF if you were looking at him with open eyes.  Compared to him, she would have been a golden alternative, in my opinion.  And I still think so now.

"I never thought she was ready to be president when she was nominated to be vice president-- but I thought she was ready to be vice president, and would have time in office to grow."

I had no misgivings about her stepping up to the Presidency if necessary if McCain had to go.  Hell, I went from begrudgingly voting for McCain to actively campaigning for him solely because of Palin.

Posted by: Kensington at August 31, 2011 01:15 PM (znT2j)

132

@129

1. What Perry-worship??

2. Isnt keeping the government out of the way what conservatism is about?

Posted by: Elize Nayden at August 31, 2011 01:21 PM (oJnjm)

133  @ 131 -- Thing is, she doesn't have to convince you.  And all the evangelizing on her behalf by her loyal flock the past 2 1/2 years has yet to sway even conservatives.  And she's been ubiquitous.  It's not like she hasn't had a chance to change any minds already.

Instead, she's seen nothing but a steady erosion of support.

Her candidacy isn't pinin' for the fjord.  It has ceased to be.

Posted by: Damn Dirty RINO at August 31, 2011 01:23 PM (+iwM3)

134 Damn Dirty RINO@133, if you're right, then she should flame out in the primaries pretty spectacularly.

What exactly do you want me to do?

Posted by: Kensington at August 31, 2011 01:28 PM (znT2j)

135  @ 134 -- What exactly do you want me to do?

Stop pussyfooting around the fact that I'm right!

Posted by: Damn Dirty RINO at August 31, 2011 01:34 PM (+iwM3)

136 "Stop pussyfooting around the fact that I'm right!"

If you're not joking, then I have to ask: and then do what?

Posted by: Kensington at August 31, 2011 01:42 PM (znT2j)

137 Support a candidate who can beat the scoamf.

Posted by: Elize Nayden at August 31, 2011 01:47 PM (oJnjm)

138  @ 136 -- It was a half-joke -- my way of saying that persisting in the hopes that she can turn this thing around has become counterproductive.

Posted by: Damn Dirty RINO at August 31, 2011 01:49 PM (+iwM3)

139 So does this mean that Ace is eating Crow about this?

Posted by: irony at August 31, 2011 01:49 PM (Ou4YC)

140 "Support a candidate who can beat the scoamf."

Yeah, I know.  See, this is what I'm getting at.  What a lot of you seem to be insisting is that Palin supporters stop supporting her before she even has a chance to run in the primaries.

Well, I'm sorry, but that's not a reasonable request.

Better you should urge your guys to beat her in the primaries on their own merits rather than demand that she surrender beforehand to make things cushier for them.

If she even decides to run, that is.

Posted by: Kensington at August 31, 2011 01:56 PM (znT2j)

141 "It was a half-joke."

Yeah, I thought so, but I still think the underlying idea is held by a lot of people and needs to be addressed.

My answer is no.

Posted by: Kensington at August 31, 2011 01:58 PM (znT2j)

142  If Perry is to be the nominee, doesn't he need "toughening up" by a real contender like Palin . Romney will be a cakewalk for Perry, but Palin? not so easy.

Posted by: blogforce one at August 31, 2011 02:04 PM (sZxX2)

143  @ 140 -- What a lot of you seem to be insisting is that Palin supporters stop supporting her before she even has a chance to run in the primaries.

Well, I'm sorry, but that's not a reasonable request.

Yeah, I can see where Palin supporters would feel that way.  But, at the same time, you have to understand that people who support other candidates, and people who are still winnowing their choices find the constant flash of porcelain white ankle, and the resulting uproar if someone like ace should voice his disinterest, more than a little tedious.

And ace has been FAR more charitable about it than others, yet there's no significant difference in the vehemence of the protests.  Not being on board with Team Palin and daring to say it publicly is like wearing a harp seal skin jacket and strolling across the campus of UC Berkeley whenever her name pops up in the news.

A failure to rush to her defense, no matter how valid or mild the criticism being leveled against her, gets you branded as a eunuch at best -- and in the eyes of some, an outright collaborator.  Either way, you're considered shameful.  It's just a matter of degree at that point.

Posted by: Damn Dirty RINO at August 31, 2011 02:13 PM (+iwM3)

144

Why do Rick Romney and Mitt Perry score better in head to head polls vs. Obama?

They're declared candidates and have not been subjected to three years of media de-legitimation, in which frequently pawned bloggers like Ace have played supporting and enabling roles.

No matter.  Just watch her compete and we'll see how she does OK?  How could anyone have a problem with just having Sarah do her thing on the trail?  Who gets hurt by that?

If her support is so thin as Ace types think, then you'll enjoy the agony of us Palinistas, yes? 

But once she's in and focusing her unique campaigning talents and her volunteer force gets to work in earnest, the poll numbers will begin shifting, methinks, and Palin will build her own legitimation with success on the field.

Is that why so many want to hide behind training camp poll numbers and insist that she's not even worthy to try to run? 

Good grief, you'd think she's asking you all to pay for it. 

Posted by: njinfl at August 31, 2011 02:22 PM (M2X9r)

145  @ 144 -- They're declared candidates and have not been subjected to three years of media de-legitimation, in which frequently pawned bloggers like Ace have played supporting and enabling roles.

That's why, right there.  Consider the fact that we're going on 2 1/2 years of that shit and the question answers itself.

Posted by: Damn Dirty RINO at August 31, 2011 02:32 PM (+iwM3)

146  Afraid Sarah will PWN  everyone in the race? I am ok with that as long as she PWNS the SCOAMF in the BIG tournament.. Imagine the pleasure! watching the Progressive/Socialist cabal  currently running things into the ground get PWNED! 

Posted by: blogforce one at August 31, 2011 03:02 PM (sZxX2)

147

FYI:

Dick Cheney just on Kudlow's show.

NOT impressed with the declared GOP field. 

Says anyone in the declared field would have a LONG WAY to go to remind him of a Reagan.

Now Cheney is an old line Ford/Bush type, hardly I suspect a closet Palinite, yet doubts remain about the annointed field.

Doubts....hmm..maybe we better have a campaign before declaring winners.

Oh, and RINO:  "...the constant flash of porcelain white ankle.."  That's why, right there. 

 A very large percentage of PDSers are objectifiers.  Its creepy as hell to those of us who admire her guts and skills.  

Sad, mate, sad.

Posted by: njinfl at August 31, 2011 03:24 PM (M2X9r)

148
Wow this is soo helpful I have been trying to figure this out on my own for a long time now. Hopefully making this change will help encourage discussion on my blog.

Posted by: The Ice Limit AudioBook at August 31, 2011 06:23 PM (qhonK)

149 If only these folks could be as perfect as Ace.  Do tell us Ace what political events/rallies have you orchestrated?  I have coordinated numerous events, and no matter how well planned there was always something unforeseen or an actor who took it upon himself to take the initiative where he didn't have the authority to do so.  These things happen.

Posted by: Molon Labe at August 31, 2011 06:59 PM (e36+G)

150  @ 147 -- Does Palin really have that many backers who are too stupid to know the difference between objectification and metaphor?  You do realize it's that sort of idiotic hypersensitivity/excuse-making that got O'Donnell's ass thrown off the speaking schedule, don't you?

If you're planning on exploiting that sort of dull-witted argument from now 'til Election Day, I can tell you right now that Palin won't even make it to the Caucuses.  So save your money and your breath.

Posted by: Damn Dirty RINO at August 31, 2011 07:10 PM (+iwM3)

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