January 25, 2016

1 First!! Or second... Third?

Posted by: Motorhead at January 25, 2016 03:58 AM (cW/74)

2 So does a Doomberg third party run help or hinder anyone? Is he John Anderson or Ross Perot?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 25, 2016 04:00 AM (zLP1L)

3 Good morning. Oh crap it's Monday, disregard previous sentiment.

Posted by: fairweatherbill at January 25, 2016 04:01 AM (xMgle)

4
Polls released over the weekend. Trump and Cruz 1-2 in all of them:

Iowa Republican FOX News Trump +11
Iowa Republican CBS News/YouGov Trump +5

New Hampshire Republican FOX News Trump +17
New Hampshire Republican CBS News/YouGov Trump +18

South Carolina Republican CBS News/YouGovTrump +19

Florida Republican CBS News/YouGov Trump +19

Georgia Republican CBS News/YouGov Trump +10

Texas Republican CBS News/YouGov Cruz +15

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 04:01 AM (kdS6q)

5 There's a reason "work" is four letter word.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 25, 2016 04:02 AM (4WhSY)

6
Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) is endorsing Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Saskatchewan) in the race for the GOPs presidential nomination according to Politico.


Smoochies.

-Kiss of Death

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 04:02 AM (kdS6q)

7 I still don understand why we let them run a liberal State like Iowa first.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 25, 2016 04:04 AM (t2KH5)

8 Morning.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 25, 2016 04:04 AM (/ciMI)

9 The dump contains a lot of anti Trump corn. LOL

Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2016 04:04 AM (8HTq1)

10
Republican presidential hopeful Jeb Bush on Sunday said former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who is reportedly considering an independent presidential bid in 2016, was a great mayor.

"Look, he's a good man," Bush said on ABCs This Week. "He was a great mayor. He's much more liberal than I am, but he's a good person."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 04:04 AM (kdS6q)

11 I see KDW is now saying Trump supporters are illiterate. Can NR get anymore hackish?

Posted by: WOPR at January 25, 2016 04:04 AM (LTDSy)

12 The Weekly Standard has no room to complain about jeb.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 25, 2016 04:05 AM (t2KH5)

13 Trump Trump Trump Trump virus Rumsfeld Trump

Posted by: Cael Lug at January 25, 2016 04:05 AM (8Qhyj)

14 Pfft. KDW laments the fact that we're a post-literate society. He should have seen the 800 post book thread with the flame wars at a vocabulary test. The Horde reads.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 25, 2016 04:05 AM (1xUj/)

15
A Senate deal to confirm five of President Barack Obama's judicial nominees held this week, despite pressure from a key conservative interest group to shut down the process entirely.

http://tinyurl.com/zojmtcp

But you know, judges. Do read down for notes on the various congress-weasels in tight races clocking the vote.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 04:05 AM (kdS6q)

16 I miss Walker. Governor Scott, that is, not Hillary's walking aid.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 25, 2016 04:05 AM (/ciMI)

17 Federalist "Donald Trump is not the solution to GOP incompetence." The premise right there is wrong. The GOP-e is not incompetent. The GOP-e is collaborationist in the 100 year Fabian Socialist counterrevolution. Whether Trump or anyone can do anything about that is the big question. And considering the state of the nation and the beast destroying it, I have my doubts.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 25, 2016 04:05 AM (zLP1L)

18 With just five days until Fox News airs the final GOP debate before the Iowa Caucuses, Donald Trump is reigniting his war with Megyn Kelly.


Free ad copy.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 25, 2016 04:06 AM (t2KH5)

19 I see KDW is now saying Trump supporters are illiterate. Can NR get anymore hackish? Posted by: WOPR at January 25, 2016 09:04 AM (LTDSy) **** I see that Dale Carnegie course is really paying off for him. I'm convinced.

Posted by: Tim in GA [/i] [/s] [/b] at January 25, 2016 04:06 AM (gEJzy)

20 18 Yes,they are very competent at getting what they care about.

Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2016 04:06 AM (8HTq1)

21 8 I still don understand why we let them run a liberal State like Iowa first. Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 25, 2016 09:04 AM (t2KH5) Who is this "we" you speak of? - - Rancid Pubis and your Overlords

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 25, 2016 04:06 AM (zLP1L)

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 25, 2016 04:07 AM (t2KH5)

23 I see KDW is now saying Trump supporters are illiterate. Points. "What's that mean?"

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 25, 2016 04:07 AM (VDCWC)

24 14 Trump Trump Trump Trump virus Rumsfeld Trump I think there's a SCOAMF in between Trump and virus.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 25, 2016 04:08 AM (zLP1L)

25 Trump  Trump   Trump   Trump


Lot of hate on Trump out there.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 25, 2016 04:08 AM (t2KH5)

26 the flame wars at a vocabulary test. I wouldn't call that a "flame war" which I associate with people insulting each other. We were-or some of were- insulting the test-not each other. Of, course maybe it was only the people who don't support Trump who were participating in the book discussion. Running and hiding. ;^) (just kidding)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 25, 2016 04:09 AM (w4NZ8)

27 Most Polarizing President Ever Says Polarization Gnaws on Me


Why is anyone surprised about this.  He can't open his pie hole w/o puking out a lie.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 25, 2016 04:09 AM (t2KH5)

28 Bloomberg is just pulling everyone's chain.  He ain't going to do shit.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 25, 2016 04:10 AM (t2KH5)

29 Ten links, three anti-Trump.  Just 7 more and we can join the NRO Brigade: All Trump, All The Time.

Posted by: Kate58 at January 25, 2016 04:10 AM (oLZsm)

30 Harsanyi hits it out of the park right here:

Maybe every other candidate is awful. That doesn't explain how a principled libertarian or constitutional conservative could back a Trump candidacy. So why should we keep acting like his fans are on the same side of an ideological divide? They're not. Being angry and frustrated is not a political position. Everyone is angry and frustrated. After the anger you have to make choices.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 04:10 AM (lVU49)

31 Georgia Republican CBS News/YouGov Trump +10 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 09:01 AM (kdS6q) Based on my observations (although I admittedly am biased) I think Georgia is closer than than that. I'd put Trump and Cruz as being within the margin of error, or with Cruz slightly below the MoE (which is 6.2% with a sample size of 494).

Posted by: Country Singer at January 25, 2016 04:11 AM (GUBah)

32 Maybe every other candidate is awful. That doesn't explain how a principled libertarian or constitutional conservative could back a Trump candidacy. So why should we keep acting like his fans are on the same side of an ideological divide? They're not. Being angry and frustrated is not a political position. Everyone is angry and frustrated. After the anger you have to make choices. I see the Federalist and Harsanyi still don't don't get why people are mad and are taking out their frustration on the GOP via Trump. Incompetence doesn't mean I am going to keep giving you my vote. I also loved his comment that the GOP disinviting NR from the debate showed their incompetence. Actually, it was one of the smarter moves the GOP made.

Posted by: WOPR at January 25, 2016 04:11 AM (LTDSy)

33 Criticism of Trump does not mean one hates him-because that sounds suspiciously like criticisms of Obama. Hmmmmm But yes, the NR really does hate him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 25, 2016 04:11 AM (w4NZ8)

34 31 Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:10 AM (lVU49) Agreed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 25, 2016 04:11 AM (zLP1L)

35 This election year looks more like a Monty Python sketch every day. As if I wasn't up for a mulligan on 2016 as it stood.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 25, 2016 04:12 AM (9krrF)

36 I wouldn't call that a "flame war" which I associate with people insulting each other. We were-or some of were- insulting the test-not each other. YOU WOULDN'T KNOW A FLAME WAR IF IT BIT YOU ON YOUR LILLY-WHITE... uh, no. You're right. I was looking for a way of saying we got yelly at a test. I was shocked, shocked, to find so many bitterly competitive Hordelings.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 25, 2016 04:12 AM (1xUj/)

37

Kevin Williamson:

 

Thomas Aquinas cautioned against "homo unius libri," a warning that would not get very far with the typical Trump voter stuck sniggering over "homo."  (They'd snigger over "snigger," too, for similar reasons).

 

 

Fuck you, you snotty prick.  I  hope you die from some suppurating anorectal disease, you elitist shit.

 

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 25, 2016 04:13 AM (X6fMO)

38 Bloomberg 2016! - Because You Don't Deserve Your Guns and Big Gulps Winning. Message.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at January 25, 2016 04:13 AM (pVkEV)

39 11 "Look, he's a good man," Bush said on ABCs This Week. "He was a great mayor. He's much more liberal than I am, but he's a good person." Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 09:04 AM (kdS6q) And Jerry Brown is a great governor. Mostly because I don't live in California. Jeb Bush is just a pudgy robotic dolt. Doomkopf was a lousy mayor and is a terrible human being, mostly because of his totalitarian bent. Please, Jeb. One fuhrer is enough.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 25, 2016 04:13 AM (zLP1L)

40 Incompetence doesn't mean I am going to keep giving you my vote.


everyone at this point understands "you're angry"

but a platform necessarily must include more than just "I'm angry"

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 04:14 AM (lVU49)

41 Obama is not even self aware enough to know he is polarizing.He simply cannot comprehend that anyone can disagree with him in good faith.Anyone that disagrees with him is stupid or evil.He idea of negotiations makes that abundantly clear.I don't think he is altogether sane.

Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2016 04:14 AM (8HTq1)

42 Donald Trump Is Not The Solution To GOP Incompetence Never ascribe to stupidity what can be explained by malice.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 25, 2016 04:15 AM (evdj2)

43
Over at HotAir, the unfortunate looking* Taylor Millard opines:

An immediate GOP purge won't work

Its going to take years to convince the electorate to put a true majority of smaller government advocates into power. So its more important for conservatives and libertarians to play the long game (the very long game) to see their plans come to fruition.

It means not chasing every new populist bauble or figure who comes along promising to bring about change or fixing a country with even more big government. It also means resisting the urge to immediately throw someone out when they vote the way we dont want them too....

http://tinyurl.com/jlkoupa

*http://tinyurl.com/z4ak6kn

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 04:15 AM (kdS6q)

44 if you're angry, then find someone who agrees with your principles.

that may or may not include Republicans, that's fine

since Donald lacks principles, he's off the list.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 04:16 AM (lVU49)

45 38 Kevin Williamson: Thomas Aquinas cautioned against "homo unius libri," a warning that would not get very far with the typical Trump voter stuck sniggering over "homo." (They'd snigger over "snigger," too, for similar reasons). Fuck you, you snotty prick. I hope you die from some suppurating anorectal disease, you elitist shit. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 25, 2016 09:13 AM (X6fMO) There are legitimate reasons to be wary of and/or oppose Trump. But, at the risk of pissing off CBD who is a fan, Kevin Williamson is WAY off base here. I bitch plenty about Trump's smears of Cruz but Williamson's bitter condescension to supporters of Trump really is an ugly thing to witness, especially from a writer whose past works are quite good. Shame.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 25, 2016 04:16 AM (zLP1L)

46 Maybe people from El Salvador shouldn't travel? Already cases of Zika virus in NYC and Hawaii. Thanks to Obama's open borders/DHS illegal immigrant escort to US city of choice policy we are so very screwed health-wise. Same goes for Europe, where they're seeing all sorts of nasty diseases that had been eradicated showing up again. These bleeding heart Lefties are freakin' idiots - any normal person could have seen this coming.

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 04:16 AM (NOIQH)

47 Incompetence doesn't mean I am going to keep giving you my vote. everyone at this point understands "you're angry" but a platform necessarily must include more than just "I'm angry" More than "doing it the same way since 1988?"

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 25, 2016 04:16 AM (VDCWC)

48 Regarding Williamson's article: is there anything he could have written that would change anyone's mind at this point? I'm guessing he's sick of being accused of being an establishment shill; RINO; dumbass; faggott; sell-out; race traitor. I can't really blame him for thinking the most vocal (and vile) of Trump support is indicative of Trump's overall support.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 25, 2016 04:17 AM (/ciMI)

49 #PolaroidsMatter

Posted by: Jen Psocki at January 25, 2016 04:17 AM (Dwehj)

50 >>Bloomberg 2016! - Because You Don't Deserve Your Guns and Big Gulps ....and salt, a standalone house (micro-housing for all veal-citizens!!), your own car, access to open space outside of major cities.....

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 04:17 AM (NOIQH)

51 No I don't like Trump.  Don't like Cruz either.  Don't trust either one of them.  I probably will not even vote this time.  First time no vote since 1977 when I got out of the Navy. 

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 25, 2016 04:18 AM (t2KH5)

52 36 This election year looks more like a Monty Python sketch every day. As if I wasn't up for a mulligan on 2016 as it stood. Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 25, 2016 09:12 AM (9krrF) The prospect of an election pitting a doddering Brooklyn commie versus an egomaniacal vulgarian really is depressing. How far we have fallen.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 25, 2016 04:18 AM (zLP1L)

53 52 No I don't like Trump. Don't like Cruz either. Don't trust either one of them. I probably will not even vote this time. First time no vote since 1977 when I got out of the Navy. Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 25, 2016 09:18 AM (t2KH5) Yet you did vote for Mitt and McStains.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 25, 2016 04:19 AM (zLP1L)

54 An immediate GOP purge won't work Its going to take years to convince the electorate to put a true majority of smaller government advocates into power. So its more important for conservatives and libertarians to play the long game (the very long game) to see their plans come to fruition. It would be swell if we had "years", but I don't think Mr. Maths is gonna cooperate.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 25, 2016 04:19 AM (VDCWC)

55 2008 is the only election I ever skipped.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 25, 2016 04:19 AM (1xUj/)

56 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 25, 2016 04:19 AM (kff5f)

57 You want General Washington You will settle for General Pinochet You will get Colonel Gaddafi

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 25, 2016 04:19 AM (evdj2)

58 Burn it down. Scatter the stones. Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 25, 2016 04:19 AM (kff5f)

59 but a platform necessarily must include more than just "I'm angry"

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:14 AM (lVU49)



By George, you're right. We need a carefully crafted, poll-tested platform chock full of principled statements and positions, oh, say like the ones the GOP/RNC/Cartel put forth every two years or so!



Repealing Obamacare and building a border fence should probably be on that list!!

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 25, 2016 04:19 AM (wYnyS)

60

everyone at this point understands "you're angry"

but a platform necessarily must include more than just "I'm angry"

 

 

OK, then, I'm angry.  And here's my platform:  I want the bastards in this administration who have been breaking the laws to go to jail.  Beginning with Lois Lerner and Hillary Clinton.


Now tell me who's going to do that.  Because it sure as hell isn't the GOPe.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 25, 2016 04:20 AM (X6fMO)

61 Anyone that disagrees with him is stupid or evil.He idea of negotiations makes that abundantly clear.I don't think he is altogether sane. -- I don't think anyone who has been steeped and marinated in liberalism their whole lives is altogether sane. And I don't say that as hyperbole. The advancement of his ideology requires a constant hatred, a constant victim, a constant inability to put forth facts (outcomes) over emotion. It simply isn't healthy. And as far as negotiations with Paul Ryan on "solving" immigration...when Ryan's vantage point is very close to Obama's, I'm not expecting anything less than a complete sellout.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at January 25, 2016 04:20 AM (pVkEV)

62 By George, you're right. We need a carefully crafted, poll-tested platform chock full of principled statements and positions, oh, say like the ones the GOP/RNC/Cartel put forth every two years or so!

false choice.  no one is requiring you to vote GOP either.



Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 04:20 AM (lVU49)

63 38
Kevin Williamson:

Thomas Aquinas cautioned against "homo unius libri," a warning that would not get very far with the typical Trump voter stuck sniggering over "homo." (They'd snigger over "snigger," too, for similar reasons).


Fuck you, you snotty prick. I hope you die from some suppurating anorectal disease, you elitist shit.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 25, 2016 09:13 AM (X6fMO)


The first time I said something bad about KW one of the Morons chastised me because he is a "conservative".  Now after seeing many article from him I have come to the conclusion that he is nothing.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 25, 2016 04:21 AM (t2KH5)

64 Hillary/Paine 2016
 
The Crime And Punishment Ticket

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at January 25, 2016 04:21 AM (gyKtp)

65 Ugh. Later, Horde.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at January 25, 2016 04:21 AM (/ciMI)

66 >>Obama is not even self aware enough to know he is polarizing Oh, I think he knows dang well he's polarizing and it is the primary tool in his toolbox. He gets the masses angry and then pretends to be the guy who is above it all, the one with the vision. The man is *constantly* trolling just to keep people pissed off. That takes work.

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 04:21 AM (NOIQH)

67 but a platform necessarily must include more than just "I'm angry" Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:14 AM (lVU49) By George, you're right. We need a carefully crafted, poll-tested platform chock full of principled statements and positions, That they can promptly ignore.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 25, 2016 04:21 AM (VDCWC)

68 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 25, 2016 09:16 AM (zLP1L) I agree with you, but it's so over the top I just laugh at it. Maybe if I were a fervent Trump supporter I wouldn't find it so appallingly funny.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 25, 2016 04:21 AM (w4NZ8)

69
OK, then, I'm angry. And here's my platform: I want the bastards in this administration who have been breaking the laws to go to jail. Beginning with Lois Lerner and Hillary Clinton.

Now tell me who's going to do that. Because it sure as hell isn't the GOPe.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 25, 2016 09:20 AM (X6fMO)


Honestly?  I think your best chance is with the Libertarians.


You are right I don't think Republicans will.


Democrats certainly won't.


Donald absolutely won't.  He will cut deals with them instead.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 04:22 AM (lVU49)

70 55 An immediate GOP purge won't work Its going to take years to convince the electorate to put a true majority of smaller government advocates into power. So its more important for conservatives and libertarians to play the long game (the very long game) to see their plans come to fruition. It would be swell if we had "years", but I don't think Mr. Maths is gonna cooperate. Posted by: rickb223 at January 25, 2016 09:19 AM (VDCWC) The problem is not so much the party as it is the entrenched, immovable socialist bureaucracy that grows and grows, no matter which party is in office. True, you do need a party that has the integrity, political will and power to do something about that. But that is a herculean task.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 25, 2016 04:22 AM (zLP1L)

71 Bloomberg Exploring A Third Party Run Better he should explore just buying a third world country and being emperor for life, there.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 25, 2016 04:22 AM (zc3Db)

72 62 True.

Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2016 04:22 AM (8HTq1)

73 Ideology is meaningless if nobody is doing anything.  Let's the billionaire hobo crash around for a little bit and let's see if he breaks anything what needs breaking.

Posted by: Fritz in his hobo blind at January 25, 2016 04:22 AM (UzPAd)

74 Remain calm. All is well.

Posted by: The Establishment at January 25, 2016 04:22 AM (Dwehj)

75 Did you wait for me? Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, asked floor staffers as she entered the chamber. Is it a tight vote?


Of course asshole traitors like mookow will vote for these liberal judges.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 25, 2016 04:22 AM (t2KH5)

76 Donald Trump Is Not The Solution To GOP Incompetence

It's not incompetence, its dishonesty.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 25, 2016 04:22 AM (oVJmc)

77 I also loved his comment that the GOP disinviting NR from the debate showed their incompetence. Actually, it was one of the smarter moves the GOP made.

Posted by: WOPR at January 25, 2016 09:11 AM (LTDSy)


Yes, I thought perhaps a glimmer of sentience has emerged within the establishment GOP?

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 25, 2016 04:24 AM (wYnyS)

78 How Jeb Cleared The Way For Trump By dismissing Trump out-of-hand for nearly a year. There, I saved them a whole lot of pixels. Seriously, this isn't hard. Had the DOPe realized how pissed off voters were, they would have nuked Jeb before Trump even entered the race. A race without Jeb (where the "squish" is Marco Rubio- who, don't get me wrong, is also unacceptable to me) is a race where Teh Donald can't get nearly the same traction. If they had gone even farther and actively supported someone like Scott Walker, then everyone (including the DOPe consultant class) would be much happier right now. They didn't. They assumed that Trump would implode or be completely unacceptable, and therefore a laughing stock. Well... good luck with that.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 25, 2016 04:24 AM (kff5f)

79 Ideology is meaningless if nobody is doing anything.


you're right, ideology has to be paired with action.


ideology guides decisions over what the proper choice of action ought to be.


action without ideology is.... monarchism

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 04:24 AM (lVU49)

80 Re: the polarization link, words fail me other than to simply say Obama can suck my dick. Seriously.

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 25, 2016 04:24 AM (bS6uW)

81 Seriously, I can respect folks being wary of Trump, I'm kinda getting more and more leary of his stands and stances myself. Trouble is, some of the reactions I'm seeing also serve as prime examples of how Trump got where he is to begin with. There is a divide within the anti-Left (I can barely call it "Right" anymore). Someone was going to capitalize eventually and it wound up being Trump. If you want to stop Trump, first recognize and understand why he's been able to do what he's done. There's some pretty legit issues driving people there and nobody else has been bothering to address them. Or yeah, just continue to insult and condescend. I'm sure they'll turn out in droves for you then. Baka.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 25, 2016 04:24 AM (9krrF)

82 Women Run The Home Better Than Men Do Article is FOS. Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 25, 2016 09:07 AM (t2KH5) It was mostly a dad complaining that kids are work.

Posted by: Lea at January 25, 2016 04:25 AM (lIU4e)

83 41  but a platform necessarily must include more than just "I'm angry"

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:14 AM (lVU49)


Yeah, too bad there is nobody running capable of a good platform.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 25, 2016 04:25 AM (t2KH5)

84 Better he should explore just buying a third world country and being emperor for life, there. Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 25, 2016 09:22 AM (zc3Db) I'm sure Blooming Idiot has the coin to buy the island of St. Helena.

Posted by: RickZ at January 25, 2016 04:25 AM (Ix+HS)

85 Of course if this place is going to become another version of Breitbart with the constant flame wars between Trumo and non Trump supporters it may not even be worth it to come here.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 25, 2016 04:25 AM (w4NZ8)

86 Women manage the home better than men do Bee effin' ess. I am capable of tossing things out; the missus is not. Yet who is the one who says, "This house is too big for the two of us now that the kids are gone?"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at January 25, 2016 04:25 AM (BK3ZS)

87 In other news, I just saw that Jimmy Carter's cancer has returned. How anything can survive in that poisoned blood stream is beyond me.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 25, 2016 04:25 AM (zLP1L)

88 Donald Trump Is Not The Solution To GOP Incompetence Depends on your definition of "solution." What a bunch of Conservatives who I greatly respect don't seem to get is this: if the point is destroying the Republican Party (which, for me it is), that requires that the WHOLE Republican Party be destroyed. What rises up after is going to have to be something new, it can't just be the Republican Party with the serial numbers filed off.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 25, 2016 04:26 AM (kff5f)

89 Kevin Williamson: Thomas Aquinas cautioned against "homo unius libri," a warning that would not get very far with the typical Trump voter stuck sniggering over "homo." (They'd snigger over "snigger," too, for similar reasons). I'm too busy chuckling over "unius".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 25, 2016 04:26 AM (zc3Db)

90 early AM circular firing squad ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 04:26 AM (kzdjp)

91 There's some pretty legit issues driving people there and nobody else has been bothering to address them.


There is only one "issue" of note that has driven Trump and that is immigration.  And as everyone here notes, Trump has made immigration a focus of the race.  Good for him.


But that's it, only one.  The rest is bombast and blather and "I'm leading in the polls, vote for the leader" nonsense.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 04:26 AM (lVU49)

92 Seriously, this isn't hard. Had the DOPe realized how pissed off voters were, they would have nuked amnesty talk, Obama's budgets and nominations, taking impeachment off the table, and Jeb before Trump even entered the race. Forgetting a few contributing factors, are we? It's not just the candidates, it's the capitulation and collaboration.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 25, 2016 04:26 AM (9krrF)

93 89 In other news, I just saw that Jimmy Carter's cancer has returned. How anything can survive in that poisoned blood stream is beyond me. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 25, 2016 09:25 AM (zLP1L) His funeral in Gaza will be the stuff of legends...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at January 25, 2016 04:27 AM (BK3ZS)

94 Federalist "Donald Trump is not the solution to GOP incompetence." === The GOP and the Pundits and NR and the Federalist and "conservatives" of whatever stripe can noodle and opine all day long, like they always do, and support whatever bullshit emerges from their little bubble. I do not fucking care. Trump is the solution, in the sense of solvent. GTFO all of you.

Posted by: Bigby's Digital Manipulators at January 25, 2016 04:27 AM (3ZtZW)

95 He will cut deals with them instead.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:22 AM (lVU49)


Totes unlike the conservative establishment stalwarts we have elected and re-elected!

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 25, 2016 04:27 AM (wYnyS)

96 It all becomes clear when you come to realize that when "they" say "we" they don't mean "us". I'm out.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 25, 2016 04:27 AM (NeFrd)

97 No one on the face of the planet has any reason to be angry or to seek an agent of change to ameliorate the conditions causing that anger. Who said that?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 25, 2016 04:27 AM (w4NZ8)

98 Yeah, too bad there is nobody running capable of a good platform.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 25, 2016 09:25 AM (t2KH5)


There are, actually, if anyone ever takes the time to read them and discuss the issues contained therein.



Instead it's all Trump nonsense.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 04:27 AM (lVU49)

99 I love starting the week with a good Dump. Not sure this is it though.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2016 04:27 AM (j4wsR)

100 Yet you did vote for Mitt and McStains.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 25, 2016 09:19 AM (zLP1L)


Yes and I said after voting for RINO Mitt that it was the very last time I would vote for a liberal Republican because he was the lesser of the evils.  And I will not.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 25, 2016 04:28 AM (t2KH5)

101 Had the DOPe realized how pissed off voters were" Trust me - various State and much of the National level GOPe knew. They just didn't (and still don't) give two sh...

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at January 25, 2016 04:28 AM (C9pBZ)

102 79 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 25, 2016 09:24 AM (kff5f) The GOP-e doesn't care how pissed off the voters are because its aims are the exact opposite of its base's. They just are under the delusion that the base will always hold its nose and vote GOP no matter what. Thanks to Trump, they are in for a very rude awakening. Go Cruz.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 25, 2016 04:28 AM (zLP1L)

103 Totes unlike the conservative establishment stalwarts we have elected and re-elected!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 25, 2016 09:27 AM (wYnyS)


Then don't vote for them!


How many times do I have to say that it is a false choice between "Trump" and "squishy RINO moderates"?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 04:28 AM (lVU49)

104 I think women do certain things better for the home than men and men do certain things better in the home than women.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 25, 2016 04:28 AM (iQIUe)

105 Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 09:26 AM (kzdjp) Yep; I think I'll wait for the art thread.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 25, 2016 04:28 AM (w4NZ8)

106 How Jeb Cleared The Way For Trump ______ I think it is outrageous and unfair to blame Governor Bush for the Trump mess. He was the only one who dared to take Trump on, while the other candidates just ignored the problem. easy to see who the true leader is!

Posted by: Begonia at January 25, 2016 04:29 AM (xrAxS)

107 it can't just be the Republican Party with the serial numbers filed off Nice turn of phrase that.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 25, 2016 04:29 AM (evdj2)

108 But that's it, only one. The rest is bombast and blather and "I'm leading in the polls, vote for the leader" nonsense.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:26 AM (lVU49)


Pretty much it's also one that no other candidate has had the temerity to address in any believable fashion.

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 25, 2016 04:29 AM (wYnyS)

109 "Maybe people from El Salvador shouldn't travel?

Already cases of Zika virus in NYC and Hawaii.
Thanks to Obama's open borders/DHS illegal immigrant escort to US city of choice policy we are so very screwed health-wise.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 25, 2016 09:16 AM (NOIQH)"

I was listening a a medical talk show over the weekend.  They were blaming the increase of rare, tropical diseases in the US on, get this... Global Warming.

And these weren't even lefty activists, just normal medical professionals that have been blinded by the global warming scam and/or political correctness.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 25, 2016 04:30 AM (1BQGO)

110 it can't just be the Republican Party with the serial numbers filed off Nice turn of phrase that. Well, we might need a few "throw down" parties at first.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 25, 2016 04:30 AM (VDCWC)

111 100  There are, actually, if anyone ever takes the time to read them and discuss the issues contained therein.

Instead it's all Trump nonsense.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:27 AM (lVU49)


I have read them and they are ALL assholes who I don't trust.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 25, 2016 04:30 AM (t2KH5)

112 Good morning, fappers and fappees. What fresh hell awaits us this fine day? #WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy[/b][/s][/u][/i] at January 25, 2016 04:30 AM (LUgeY)

113 Five days to the Republican debate.

Seven days to the Iowa caucuses.

Three hundred and sixty days until Obama departs office.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 25, 2016 04:30 AM (noWW6)

114 What, no link about tonight's Democrat town hall? C'mon Ace...you know you want to live blog it. You know Hillary must be REALLY desperate. Normally, they try to hide her, because the more people see and hear her, the lower her polls go. To risk this, at the last minute...she must be panicked.

Posted by: Grimaldi at January 25, 2016 04:31 AM (kG9Ed)

115 There is only one "issue" of note that has driven Trump and that is immigration. And as everyone here notes, Trump has made immigration a focus of the race. Good for him. That's the big one for sure, but there also come out rumblings of great vagueness regarding protectionist measures and talk about reviving manufacturing. Those are catnip to people who have been seeing "globalization" destroy their livelihoods and standard of living, and yes, that's also linked inescapably with the immigration issue. And I'm sure folks are attributing other views he hasn't actually expressed, seeing him as a "blank slate". If that sounds familiar, it should. Had the GOP shown any interest in those issues through their actions I don't think folks would be looking at Trump they way they do. This is a self-inflicted injury for the GOP, pure and simple.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 25, 2016 04:31 AM (9krrF)

116 Morning horde Made it in to work G*d forbid the fed stays closed.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 25, 2016 04:31 AM (fWAjv)

117 You all can beat each over the head about Trump vs anyone else. Maybe just maybe, by the time the primaries get to Illinois this year, my vote will count for something. That would be nice.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and Unimproved. at January 25, 2016 04:31 AM (WVsWD)

118 I think it is outrageous and unfair to blame Governor Bush for the Trump mess. He was the only one who dared to take Trump on, while the other candidates just ignored the problem. easy to see who the true leader is! Posted by: Begonia at January 25, 2016 09:29 An opinion shared by dozens!

Posted by: Dan D. Lyin at January 25, 2016 04:31 AM (326rv)

119 I think women do certain things better for the home than men and men do certain things better in the home than women. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 25, 2016 09:28 AM (iQIUe) I make better sammiches than my ex ever did.

Posted by: RickZ at January 25, 2016 04:31 AM (Ix+HS)

120
Pretty much it's also one that no other candidate has had the temerity to address in any believable fashion.

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 25, 2016 09:29 AM (wYnyS)


Actually there have.  Trump was just loud and crude about it.


Krikorian at NR (oh em gee!) has been absolutely incessant about border security and building a wall.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 04:31 AM (lVU49)

121 How many times do I have to say that it is a false choice between "Trump" and "squishy RINO moderates"?

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:28 AM (lVU49)


Yes indeed, that's the ticket!

Posted by: Thad "Hrothgar"Cochran [/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 25, 2016 04:31 AM (wYnyS)

122 >>I think women do certain things better for the home than men and men do certain things better in the home than women. Yeah, I'm so tired of this crap. Men and women *are* different, and not just physically, but I'm so very tired of only being allowed to mention these differences when it is to bash men, while we have to pretend women can totes be Navy SEALs and whatnot.

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 04:32 AM (NOIQH)

123 Taliban demands prisoners released, sanctions removed before joining peace negotiations

(nothing new here, but I am pissed off that a) negotiation is started with a demand for full surrender, and b) our crack negotiators will think surrender is a valid negotiation tool)

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gnjue4b

Posted by: Kindltot at January 25, 2016 04:32 AM (q2o38)

124 Heh. Now on the local ham radio repeater: discussion of sea turtle recipes intertwined with pro-life advocacy. It's as if I'm listening to, rather than reading, Horde commentary.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 25, 2016 04:32 AM (GUBah)

125 94 Seriously, this isn't hard. Had the DOPe realized how pissed off voters were, they would have nuked amnesty talk, Obama's budgets and nominations, taking impeachment off the table, and Jeb before Trump even entered the race. Forgetting a few contributing factors, are we? It's not just the candidates, it's the capitulation and collaboration. Impeachment is off the table! Before they were even sworn in.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 25, 2016 04:32 AM (VDCWC)

126 and men do certain things better in the home than women. Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 25, 2016 09:28 AM (iQIUe) Spider killing!

Posted by: Lea at January 25, 2016 04:33 AM (lIU4e)

127 Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:10 AM (lVU49) He whiffs badly. What has the GOP delivered on? Abortion: Fully funded PP. Couldn't they have cut their budget even 10%? Trade: Backed TPP which is going to kill us even more. ExIm: Restored that crony piece of crud. Foreign Workers: Increased the number of those. Foreign Affairs: Given Obama everything he wants "Refugees": Fully funded Failure chemjeff, F.A.I.L.U.R.E. Maybe Cruz is different but he wouldn't even be in the running without Trump. Yep, Trump isn't conservative or libertarian. But on two or three issues, he might be enough of one to actually accomplish something. Throwing away my vote on another GOPe candidate is not going to happen.

Posted by: WOPR at January 25, 2016 04:33 AM (LTDSy)

128 Men and women *are* different, and not just physically, but I'm so very tired of only being allowed to mention these differences when it is to bash men, while we have to pretend women can totes be Navy SEALs and whatnot. Posted by: Lizzy at January 25, 2016 09:32 AM (NOIQH) Lizzy, if you read the article (which I don't recommend) it's mostly a stay at home (I think) dad complaining that kids are work. It really wasn't reasoned out or an actual argument or anything.

Posted by: Lea at January 25, 2016 04:34 AM (lIU4e)

129 "Already cases of Zika virus in NYC and Hawaii."

When affluent liberal yuppie mothers in Manhattan, who have their unborn child's educational trajectory already perfectly planned from an elite private pre-K all the way to the Ivy League, end up delivering a microcephalic kid instead?

Yeah, that isn't going to go over too well.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 25, 2016 04:34 AM (noWW6)

130 Taliban demands prisoners released, sanctions removed before joining peace negotiations Well with Fredo's history, makes perfect sense to me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 04:34 AM (kzdjp)

131 Rather than the Republicans spending all their time and capitol trying to ameliorate the Socialist policies of the Commies and placate the Left, the Republicans need to trying to ameliorate the Protectionist impulses of the working man and placate the Right. Don't think tariffs are a good policy? Offer something else, but effin address the problem.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 25, 2016 04:34 AM (evdj2)

132 Krikorian is not running for any office.

Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2016 04:35 AM (8HTq1)

133 Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:31 AM (lVU49)

Yes, I much prefer Jeb!'s or Rubio's nuanced multi-lingual speeches about la immigracion to the blatherring of a Trump.

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 25, 2016 04:35 AM (wYnyS)

134 There is one thing that is certain: regardless of how one feels about Trump vs. Cruz, either one of them is better than ANY Democrat. Even if Trump's actual policies are all over the map, even if Cruz isn't half as conservative as he claims to be, neither one is a socialist or one of the most corrupt AND incompetent politicians in the history of this country.

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 04:35 AM (NOIQH)

135 Trump is fast becoming worse than that retarded dog catcher I said I would vote for before I would sit out an an election where the opponent was Hillary or Sanders.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 25, 2016 04:35 AM (ziriD)

136 The Tea Party's fundamental complaint, which was the same complaint put forward by Occupy Wall Street minus the Maoist daydreaming, is that there exists a corrosive and distasteful relationship between certain politically connected businesses and the politicians who are both their patrons and their clients. --Kevin Williamson LOL. This Williamson character is pretty fucking stupid. He still doesn't have a clue what the Tea Party was about ... as if that was some big secret. It's nice that he doesn't let his obvious ignorance get in the way of his retarded arrogance. He's not unlike Barky in this way, though Williamson has a much bigger vocabulary than Barky and probably knows how to pronounce all the words.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 25, 2016 04:35 AM (zc3Db)

137 Yay Dump!!!! Fucking Iowa caucuses can't happen soon enough.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 25, 2016 04:35 AM (voOPb)

138
By George, you're right. We need a carefully crafted, poll-tested platform chock full of principled statements and positions...
Posted by: Hrothgar



My Dad said we can use the barn, and my Mom can sew the costumes!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 04:35 AM (kdS6q)

139 Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:16 AM (lVU49) Bull crap. That means if you don't like what's being offered, you just get no voice. Well, surprise! We who are angry *do* get a voice, and we're f*cking pissed at 10+ years of betrayals by the Republican Party. Electing Democrats (or allowing them to be elected) doesn't work, because (not completely irrationally) Republicans reason "well, do what the winners are doing." So many of us - myself included - are attempting a new strategy: burn it the f*ck down. Maybe *then* what remains of the erstwhile Republican Party can be salvaged into something new which is actually Conservative/Libertarian. That's how the process works - you get your vote for your reasons, and I get my vote for my reasons, and the one of us who can convince more people wins. Would I rather the world be such that I could be supporting Cruz? Yep. But that world isn't this world. In this world, supporting Cruz is supporting the Uni-Party which is attempting to turn me into a serf forced to pay the local lord for the privilege of milling my own grain. F*ck. That. Trump is a highly volatile, very risky to use concoction. Unfortunately, for those of us who would like actual representation, he's about the only option left (and not because he'll represent us; I have no illusions that he'll make a good, or even adequate, President).

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 25, 2016 04:36 AM (kff5f)

140 From yesterday's New York Post: A 2011 message from Hillary staffers that was moved from secure server to the private email included Amb. Steven's "travel and protection plans". More convenient for Hillary than strangling Amb. Stevens' personally but just as effective.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 25, 2016 04:36 AM (kfcYC)

141 132 Taliban demands prisoners released, sanctions removed before joining peace negotiations Well with Fredo's history, makes perfect sense to me Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 09:34 AM (kzdjp I'm surprised they asked. Isn't that standard operating procedures for the JEF?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 25, 2016 04:36 AM (voOPb)

142 Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 25, 2016 09:26 AM (9krrF) I was trying to be brief. But yeah, all that, too.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 25, 2016 04:37 AM (kff5f)

143 Even if Trump's actual policies are all over the map, even if Cruz isn't half as conservative as he claims to be, neither one is a socialist or one of the most corrupt AND incompetent politicians in the history of this country. Posted by: Lizzy at January 25, 2016 09:35 AM (NOIQH) Amen

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 04:37 AM (kzdjp)

144 Before they were even sworn in.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 25, 2016 09:32 AM (VDCWC)



CR-Omnibus R Us!

Posted by: Hrothgar (Esteemed GOP Establishment Consultant)[/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 25, 2016 04:37 AM (wYnyS)

145 At this point ... can we really say the GOPe is in for a "surprise" ? We know their polling is the best money can buy. Not 100% accurate - but the best they can get. And if we connect the obvious dots that ain't really all that far apart - their polling must show Trump winning the nom, and I'm guessing Cruz second. The two guys the GOP likes least. Hence the last ditch efforts to "reason" with the unruly base. It's not so much a surprise as just willful ignorance. The GOP would rather die than change. I'm good with that.

Posted by: Irony at January 25, 2016 04:37 AM (Wztg5)

146 but there also come out rumblings of great vagueness regarding protectionist measures and talk about reviving manufacturing.

okay here's the deal about free trade (and yes the free traders have been awful at selling it)


the big idea here is to export the *crappy* jobs to *crappy* places, like China, and create *good* jobs in *good* places, like here.


and I don't mean *crappy* like "8-hour shift at Starbuck's" crappy.  I mean crappy like "12-hour shift in dirty factory for 7 days a week making pittance wages".


putting up tariffs and protectionist measures just so we can keep crappy jobs, *at the expense of* (opportunity cost) making better jobs here, is just stupid.  and Trump *KNOWS* this, being the financial guy that he is, but he is just playing to the crowd.  yet another illustration of how unprincipled and venal he is.


problem isn't that we don't have enough crappy jobs here, the problem is the lack of *good* jobs here.  THAT is what we ought to do, not demanding to keep the crappy jobs.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 04:37 AM (lVU49)

147 Yes, yes. These are truly turbulent times and the problems are difficult and complex. What would John Kasich's father, noted mail carrier, do?

Posted by: Weasel at January 25, 2016 04:38 AM (e3bId)

148 T.E.A. Dah fuq does it stand for??? *now to scroll up

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 25, 2016 04:38 AM (fWAjv)

149 love this nic. Dan D. Lyin why can't i ever think of them! (please don't answer) polarization -? the agitator in chief doesn't lack chutzpah.

Posted by: willow at January 25, 2016 04:38 AM (SEFXb)

150 When someone like Kevin Williams 'speaks' to me in latin, he isn't 'speaking' to me. He's writing to his peers; the well educated, branded, established voices whose opinions are given greater credibility than the opinions of mere ordinary citizens. When the cloistered, well educated argue among themselves, ordinary people suddenly discover there is laboring to be done; in the fields and factories, product has to be delivered, bills to pay. And when the ordinary people say to the well educated, established, and successful voices of reason, "Hey, ya wanna give me a hand here with this wagon load of potatoes?" Well, who needs the well educated, established voices of reason when potatoes need to be dug?

Posted by: Cael Lug at January 25, 2016 04:38 AM (8Qhyj)

151 @60 Don't worry, the leader of team stupid is about to unleash the #yearofideas on an unsuspecting world. After capitulating and giving the SCOAMF and team evil everything they want until 2017 they figure in this year of insurancy to try to baffle everyone with bullshit. And they wonder why Trump is cleaning their Clocks.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 25, 2016 04:38 AM (9XuqE)

152 145 Even if Trump's actual policies are all over the map, even if Cruz isn't half as conservative as he claims to be, neither one is a socialist or one of the most corrupt AND incompetent politicians in the history of this country. Posted by: Lizzy at January 25, 2016 09:35 AM (NOIQH) Amen Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 09:37 AM (kzdjp) Yup. Cruz. Or Trump. Let's take this thing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 25, 2016 04:38 AM (zLP1L)

153 There is one thing that is certain: regardless of how one feels about Trump vs. Cruz, either one of them is better than ANY Democrat. Posted by: Lizzy at January 25, 2016 09:35 AM (NOIQH) That's my take, too. But Trump is a much better 'Fuck You!' candidate, justifiably giving the middle finger to all our political mandarins of either party and their sycophant, knee pad wearing, presstitutes.

Posted by: RickZ at January 25, 2016 04:38 AM (Ix+HS)

154 >>...it's mostly a stay at home (I think) dad complaining that kids are work. Oh, geez, a beta male self-identifies? Yes, being a stay at home parent is work. My hubby has done it while in between jobs, yet never thought to whine about it. #WASTF

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 04:38 AM (NOIQH)

155 Three hundred and sixty days until Obama departs office. Godspeed the day.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy[/b][/s][/u][/i] at January 25, 2016 04:38 AM (LUgeY)

156 problem isn't that we don't have enough crappy jobs here, the problem is the lack of *good* jobs here. It's both actually.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 25, 2016 04:38 AM (evdj2)

157 regardless of how one feels about Trump vs. Cruz, either one of them is better than ANY Democrat.


umm, no.  Trump *is* a Democrat.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 04:39 AM (lVU49)

158 OH, and i have a question for the Horde:

Is it more valid to lie about something to achieve a political goal, or lie about something to achieve a personal goal?

There seems to be a lot of stupid sloshed around today.  I see a lot of people are out to get vengeance any way they can get it, but I wonder if can be justified for any reason other than "I want"

And a further rhetorical question: once you have gotten your vengeance, what will it have done for you?
If you burn everything down, what will support you?

When you have proven yourself a acting in bad-faith, who will deal with you and who will you trust to deal with yourself?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 25, 2016 04:39 AM (q2o38)

159 There is only one "issue" of note that has driven Trump and that is immigration. Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:26 AM (lVU49) Incorrect. And, besides, that issue you are referring to is "illegals", not "immigration".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 25, 2016 04:40 AM (zc3Db)

160 So now the convo I'm listening to has transitioned to dictators, then covered Mae West and Charlie Chaplin, and has now moved on to vintage bayonets.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 25, 2016 04:41 AM (GUBah)

161 Even if Trump's actual policies are all over the map, even if Cruz isn't half as conservative as he claims to be, neither one is a socialist or one of the most corrupt AND incompetent politicians in the history of this country. Posted by: Lizzy at January 25, 2016 09:35 AM (NOIQH) and it's awesome watching the gope's gasps of pain.

Posted by: willow at January 25, 2016 04:41 AM (SEFXb)

162 Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 25, 2016 09:36 AM (kff5f)



For some reason, supporting Trump reminds me of the old military axiom:


There is no problem that cannot be solved by the application of a sufficient quantity of high explosives!

Posted by: Hrothgar (Esteemed GOP Establishment Consultant)[/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 25, 2016 04:41 AM (wYnyS)

163 I like to see a poll at aos addressing the primary reason for supporting Trump. A. He will make a good President B. He will build a wall C. I want to destroy the GOP D. Let It Burn

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 25, 2016 04:42 AM (ziriD)

164 Incorrect. And, besides, that issue you are referring to is "illegals", not "immigration".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 25, 2016 09:40 AM (zc3Db)



Excellent correction and extension of the record, sir!

Posted by: Hrothgar (Esteemed GOP Establishment Consultant)[/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 25, 2016 04:42 AM (wYnyS)

165 Bull crap. That means if you don't like what's being offered, you just get no voice.

that's not what I'm saying at all.

vote for whomever you like.  although I don't think there is an "Armed Insurrection" candidate running, you may have to write one in.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 04:43 AM (lVU49)

166 165 C+D

Posted by: Weasel at January 25, 2016 04:43 AM (e3bId)

167 Incorrect. And, besides, that issue you are referring to is "illegals", not "immigration".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 25, 2016 09:40 AM (zc3Db)


no, it's immigration in totality, including H1B's, etc.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 04:43 AM (lVU49)

168 It's all moot. Cruz will be the nominee.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 25, 2016 04:44 AM (evdj2)

169 When you have proven yourself a acting in bad-faith, who will deal with you and who will you trust to deal with yourself? Maybe the Republicans could have asked themselves that question.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 25, 2016 04:44 AM (kff5f)

170 C. I want to destroy the GOP
D. Let It Burn



C. he won't destroy the GOP, he will make deals with them, thereby legitimizing their power and positions


D. Trump represents more-of-the-same cronyism and dealmaking, not exactly burning down DC in some libertarian revolution

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 04:44 AM (lVU49)

171 problem isn't that we don't have enough crappy jobs here, the problem is the lack of *good* jobs here. THAT is what we ought to do, not demanding to keep the crappy jobs. Except we already know how the script works out, don't we? We say "Oh, you can retrain into these nice high-paying tech jobs!" And then crank up the H1B program to fill all those nice high-paying tech jobs with...folks from overseas! Or just farm them out to India or Taiwan. Those better jobs for Americans never happened. And that's why nobody believes in that process. The promise was not kept. Unless you have a plan to reverse that at great speed, we're going to be stuck with the protectionism.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 25, 2016 04:44 AM (9krrF)

172 Kindltot, while i understand what you are saying, it already seems to be burning financially, culturally for millions while simultaneously they are replacing citizenship with millions of other they can control better. so? who will actually stop the pain? likely no one.

Posted by: willow at January 25, 2016 04:44 AM (SEFXb)

173
early AM circular firing squad?
Posted by: Nevergiveup



Ouroboros.  There's a group that spends all night camping in the ONT bitching about Trump, then takes a power nap in the faculty lounge, then starts up again in the morning.

What it must be like to walk around with that much seething hate inside you all the time.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 04:45 AM (kdS6q)

174 umm, no. Trump *is* a Democrat. Posted by: chemjeff True. But it also underscores how screwed up the Stupid Party is. There is still a clown car of candidates, and the one catching fire with the base is Trump (!?!). This speaks volumes to how divorced from us and reality they've become. AM I supposed to take a lecture from my betters as they push through yet another pork bill? Vote for another raft of obama judges who will carry on his good work? Make no move against open corruption of VA and IRS officials? The fuckers who pushed light bulb bans? They cannot and/or WILL NOT shoot straight; but they will shoot their electorate in the back of the head (DE< KS, MS Senate races). People were commenting earlier about how they WISHED tat the government was competent, even if they were evil. Look at the few things the Stupid party is competent at.

Posted by: Dan D. Lyin at January 25, 2016 04:45 AM (326rv)

175 There is no problem that cannot be solved by the application of a sufficient quantity of high explosives! Posted by: Hrothgar (Esteemed GOP Establishment Consultant) at January 25, 2016 09:41 AM (wYnyS) And this is true, if you're willing to deal with the new problems that sufficient quantity of high explosives just caused. If I'm playing 'the long game' as I'm told I must... well, then I'm willing to deal with those new problems. It's not my fault my 'long game' is longer than others'.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 25, 2016 04:45 AM (kff5f)

176 And then crank up the H1B program to fill all those nice high-paying tech jobs with...folks from overseas!


THAT is the problem.  too many H1B's.  I agree there.

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 04:46 AM (lVU49)

177 no, it's immigration in totality, including H1B's, etc. Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:43 AM (lVU49) The immigration issue is separate and distinct from the illegals issue. The fact that you don't understand this is very telling. Illegals are not part of "immigration", they are part of "invasion". When an army attacks our soil that is not an issue of "immigration".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 25, 2016 04:46 AM (zc3Db)

178 umm, no. Trump *is* a Democrat. Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:39 AM (lVU49) And of course you would have said that about Ron also right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 04:46 AM (kzdjp)

179
It's all moot. Cruz will be the nominee.
Posted by: Grump928(c)



*looks at polls*

*looks at you*

*motions for the men in the white jackets carrying butterfly nets*

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 04:46 AM (kdS6q)

180 They cannot and/or WILL NOT shoot straight; but they will shoot their electorate in the back of the head (DE, KS, MS Senate races

Posted by: Dan D. Lyin at January 25, 2016 04:47 AM (326rv)

181 Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:44 AM (lVU49) The train is fine.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 25, 2016 04:47 AM (nFdGS)

182 165 I like to see a poll at aos addressing the primary reason for supporting Trump. A. He will make a good President B. He will build a wall C. I want to destroy the GOP D. Let It Burn Yes.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 25, 2016 04:47 AM (VDCWC)

183 Honestly, I dont know who schedules a debate so shortly before Iowa. Most of the participants - especially Trump - will probably lie till they are blue in the face, hoping that corrections wont reach the electorate before the caucus. Utterly foolish!

Posted by: Begonia at January 25, 2016 04:47 AM (xrAxS)

184 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 09:45 AM (kdS6 Have no fear you're here to reply to all criticism with your tired Canadian schtik.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 25, 2016 04:47 AM (ziriD)

185 And a further rhetorical question: once you have gotten your vengeance, what will it have done for you? If you burn everything down, what will support you? This is a salient point. Burning down the old must be in the service of making way for the new. Some of us are trying to prepare for that, quietly, in our own ways. I can't speak for everyone though.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 25, 2016 04:47 AM (9krrF)

186 I detest the polarization of America. If only everyone would agree with the Left, there would be no polarization! That damned Fox - I refuse to say "News".

Posted by: President Obama, the Unpolarized at January 25, 2016 04:47 AM (MYMcU)

187 Would it help if we promise to dump Trump as long as the Stupid Party makes an attempt to treat our foes half as badly as they treat us?

Posted by: Dan D. Lyin at January 25, 2016 04:48 AM (326rv)

188 Trump Trump Trump Trumpity Trump!

Posted by: viking chorus in a spam restaurant at January 25, 2016 04:48 AM (DLIIY)

189 @165 C+D Because as Ace so succinctly put it the GOPe has lied to us for decades and taken away all hope of our preferred policy plans and proscriptions of ever being implemented. So we have cast about and settled on a figure that has at least promised us something we have been screaming at our supposed representatives to do something about. Trumps plan is we will stop illeagal immigration and get control of the borders Team stupids plan is to say fuck you and open up the flood gates even wider. Is it a surprise why Trump is in the lead.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 25, 2016 04:48 AM (9XuqE)

190 If I'm playing 'the long game' as I'm told I must... well, then I'm willing to deal with those new problems. It's not my fault my 'long game' is longer than others'.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 25, 2016 09:45 AM (kff5f)



Our Uniparty establishment betters have been playing their long game for a while, perhaps it's time to upset the tables and play a different game?



Posted by: Hrothgar (Esteemed GOP Establishment Consultant)[/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 25, 2016 04:49 AM (wYnyS)

191 I like to see a poll at aos addressing the primary reason for supporting Trump. A. He will make a good President B. He will build a wall C. I want to destroy the GOP D. Let It Burn E. Orange Reverse-Racoon (no, not the sexual position) F. Fabulous coiff G. Wife's boobs H. Ex-wives' boobs I. Syntax J. "Great Christian"

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 25, 2016 04:49 AM (1xUj/)

192 If he is Canadian that should be "hockey schtick".

Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2016 04:49 AM (8HTq1)

193 i feel silly that i believed most in leadership positions actually cared about the country they were given charge of and give fidelity to our longevity. They would do their jobs with some honor. bah

Posted by: willow at January 25, 2016 04:50 AM (SEFXb)

194 Stop flooding the zone with illegal immigrants and illegal actions Get your thieving mitts off my wallet Get out of my face and mind your own business Is that so hard to understand? Apparently the answer is "yes" if you are the GOP.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at January 25, 2016 04:50 AM (BK3ZS)

195 After Iowa, we won't have to worry about Trump. You'll see. Certainly by Super Tuesday, no later than the convention, you will forget all about Trump and the Trumpets.

Posted by: Cael Lug at January 25, 2016 04:50 AM (8Qhyj)

196 188 I detest the polarization of America. If only everyone would agree with the Left, there would be no polarization! That damned Fox - I refuse to say "News". Posted by: President Obama, the Unpolarized at January 25, 2016 09:47 AM (MYMcU) And fuck cracka ass pink-whitey honkey albino blue-eyed devils for this racial division.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 25, 2016 04:50 AM (fWAjv)

197 Trumps plan is we will stop illeagal immigration and get control of the borders

Trump's plan is to build a wall "with a wide gate", deport the illegals, and then "let the good ones back in"

Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 04:51 AM (lVU49)

198 E. Orange Reverse-Racoon (no, not the sexual position) Go on ..............

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 25, 2016 04:51 AM (VDCWC)

199 E. Orange Reverse-Racoon (no, not the sexual position) Pity. Mrs Hughes rather enjoys that one.

Posted by: mister carson at January 25, 2016 04:51 AM (DLIIY)

200 They cannot and/or WILL NOT shoot straight; but they will shoot their electorate in the back of the head (DE, KS, MS Senate races

Posted by: Dan D. Lyin at January 25, 2016 09:47 AM (326rv)


Whatever are you talking about?

Posted by: Thad Hrothgar Cochran (Esteemed GOP Senator from MS)[/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 25, 2016 04:51 AM (wYnyS)

201 E. Orange Reverse-Racoon (no, not the sexual position) F. Fabulous coiff G. Wife's boobs H. Ex-wives' boobs I. Syntax J. "Great Christian" Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 25, 2016 09:49 AM (1xUj/) K. First Daughter

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 25, 2016 04:51 AM (fWAjv)

202 Trump's plan is to build a wall "with a wide gate", deport the illegals, and then "let the good ones back in" Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:51 AM (lVU49) And what is everyone's else's plan pray tell?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 04:52 AM (kzdjp)

203 Fine...I'll look it up. reverse raccoon When you put your trash in a neighbor's trash can instead of your own. Because Racoons normally take garbage OUT of trash cans, so the act of putting trash IN a can is the reverse.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 25, 2016 04:53 AM (fWAjv)

204 Trump's plan is to build a wall "with a wide gate", deport the illegals, and then "let the good ones back in" Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:51 AM (lVU49) And what is everyone's else's plan pray tell? Posted by: Nevergiveup "Plan? Border? What border?"

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 25, 2016 04:53 AM (VDCWC)

205 We have to protect our phony baloney jobs!

 Harumph! Harumph! Harumph!

I didn't get a Harumph! outta you!

Posted by: NRO at January 25, 2016 04:54 AM (2X7pN)

206 And what is everyone's else's plan pray tell? Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 09:52 AM (kzdjp) Free shit facilitators handing out the proper paperwork at the border. Oh, and making sure they have drivers' licenses when they move on.

Posted by: RickZ at January 25, 2016 04:54 AM (Ix+HS)

207 >>Because Racoons normally take garbage OUT of trash cans, so the act of putting trash IN a can is the reverse. I heard that in Jose Canseco's voice.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 04:54 AM (Hxh2/)

208 From the "Yes, They Actually Said That With Straight Faces" file:

(a) Lyin' Ryan said, with a straight face, that his GOP caucus is determined to confront and roll back Obama's overreaching executive orders. This after the very same Lyin' Ryan used the omnibus budget bill to fully fund every one of Obama's EOs through fiscal year 2018.

(b) Former SECDEF Bob Gates said, with a straight face, that it's bad to have Presidents who surround themselves with "yes men". This from Gates, who while serving under Obama was one of the most sycophantic yes men ever to have been seen in D.C., who faithfully implemented Obama's catastrophically stupid Iraq and Afghanistan policies.

(c) The official North Korean state news agency said, with a straight face, that America has no grounds to criticize Pyongyang's nuclear weapons program, because of the USA's "numerous and humongous" nuclear warhead inventory. Yes, the Norks used the English word "humongous" in a government press release.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 25, 2016 04:55 AM (noWW6)

209
Have no fear you're here to reply to all criticism with your tired Canadian schtik.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky



Aw, gee honey, I didn't mean to make you cry.

Tell you what.  Take a $100 out of the cookie jar, buy a new dress and get your hair done.  Then when I get home from the office, I'm taking you out for the best T-bone streak dinner in Indianapolis.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 04:55 AM (kdS6q)

210 >>Would it help if we promise to dump Trump as long as the Stupid Party makes an attempt to treat our foes half as badly as they treat us? "makes an attempt"? You sound like a cheap date. How can you still believe the GOPe will follow through on ANY promises?

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 04:55 AM (NOIQH)

211 Well, isn't Kevin Williamson quite the Little Lord Fauntleroy.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 25, 2016 04:56 AM (H7HCV)

212 Nothing on tv tonight except Lucifer which already aired in August. It is funny. Dont be put off by the premise. The actors are very good.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 25, 2016 04:56 AM (iQIUe)

213 Well, at least Insty's readers are Cruzers.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 25, 2016 04:56 AM (MIKMs)

214 Rick Perry has formally endorsed Cruz.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 25, 2016 04:56 AM (ziriD)

215
Well, isn't Kevin Williamson quite the Little Lord Fauntleroy.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel



KDW - rockin' the Andrew Sullivan "Bald head and Evil Spock Beard" look.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 04:58 AM (kdS6q)

216 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 09:55 AM (kdS6q) You still aren't funny.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 25, 2016 04:58 AM (ziriD)

217 >>Lyin' Ryan said, with a straight face, that his GOP caucus is determined to confront and roll back Obama's overreaching executive orders. This after the very same Lyin' Ryan used the omnibus budget bill to fully fund every one of Obama's EOs through fiscal year 2018. You do know that Boehner did this on his way out the door, right? It was part of his "cleaning the stables" effort to give Ryan a clean slate. Boehner was all about the omnibus plan instead of individual spending bills and by the time he decided to leave the stage there was no way to do individual bills last year. Ryan has been disappointing in a lot of ways but the omnibus was all Boehner's process and his doing.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 04:59 AM (Hxh2/)

218 Cruz picks up Perry endorsement

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 25, 2016 04:59 AM (fWAjv)

219 The Obama administration plans a new office to handle background checks for federal security clearances, according to the Office of Personnel Management. The National Background Investigations Bureau will operate under OPM and absorb the Federal Investigative Service, which had previously handled more than 1 million security clearance and suitability investigations a year.The new office will be responsible for all background investigations for the federal government. Oh great. What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 04:59 AM (kzdjp)

220 Because as Ace so succinctly put it the GOPe has lied to us for decades and taken away all hope of our preferred policy plans and proscriptions of ever being implemented. What's frustrating about the GOP-E is by now they have to be totally aware of this. And yet, they still don't care. Paul Ryan just came out of a meeting with the GOP leadership and they have decided to just peddle the same shit again. "A Confident, Pro-Growth Agenda," is just the new slogan for the old policy of "Tax cuts for cronies."

Posted by: V the K at January 25, 2016 05:00 AM (O7MnT)

221 Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 25, 2016 09:58 AM (ziriD) I'm just amazed at the prices in Indianapolis! A wife can get a new dress and her hair done for $100.00?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 25, 2016 05:00 AM (w4NZ8)

222 Article is FOS. Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 25, 2016 09:07 AM (t2KH5) Did you read it? I think it's a bit tongue in cheek work from slublog after becoming a stay at home dad/

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at January 25, 2016 05:00 AM (tM4uk)

223
You still aren't funny.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky



It's OK.  Just one more week, the Iowa results will be in and -- that's it.  It will be over.

And you will be at peace.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 05:00 AM (kdS6q)

224 Rick Perry has formally endorsed Cruz. I think he hit all the morning shows, I saw him on Morning Joe. It was interesting. He said he'd spent a lot of time with Cruz in the last 60 days, that he hadn't really known him when he was Solicitor General and just based his opinions on the charicatures of him in the press. Odd that the two biggest politicians in TX didn't really know each other. Refreshingly honest of Perry, I thought.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 25, 2016 05:01 AM (1xUj/)

225 Posted by: torquewrench at January 25, 2016 09:55 AM (noWW6) Props to the Norks who undoubtably knew they were dishing out bullshit stew...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at January 25, 2016 05:01 AM (BK3ZS)

226 Trump is a liberal Democrat who decided to run as a Republican because the GOP field is wide open. His supporters are investing in a monorail that will never be built. The biggest suckers who ever sucked.

Posted by: Look to your left, look to your right, they're both morons at January 25, 2016 05:01 AM (Y8P5w)

227 Kev, there's no place else to go! The "conservative" Supremes stabbed us in the back. The "conservative" Congress stabbed us in the back. And the "conservative" media stabbed us in the back. So, kindly GFY!

How'd you get to be so sweet?!

Posted by: Hadoop at January 25, 2016 05:02 AM (2X7pN)

228 We booger-eatin' rubes have failed Kevin Williamson once again.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 25, 2016 05:02 AM (H7HCV)

229 Ryan has been disappointing in a lot of ways but the omnibus was all Boehner's process and his doing. Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 09:59 AM (Hxh2/) _______ No. We went over this yesterday. Ryan was in charge of budgets since 2011 and before that was Ways and Means.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 25, 2016 05:02 AM (MIKMs)

230

And what is everyone's else's plan pray tell?-----Nevergiveup

 

Mine involves a trebuchet, but they have yet to take my suggestion. 

Posted by: Tilikum Cruel Assault Whale at January 25, 2016 05:02 AM (m3iiU)

231 TROLLs, RINOs, and SHILLs Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 05:02 AM (kzdjp)

232 Sabo strikes again. http://tinyurl.com/zmxd97g Conservative Artist Sabo SERIOUSLY Crashed Bernie Sanders' Art Expo in LA

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 25, 2016 05:02 AM (fWAjv)

233 Yes, the Norks used the English word "humongous" in a government press release. Posted by: torquewrench at January 25, 2016 09:55 AM (noWW6) They could use some spelling lessons, but I see a country with great promise.

Posted by: The Humungus at January 25, 2016 05:02 AM (nFdGS)

234 >>Refreshingly honest of Perry, I thought. And a pretty good indicator of why Perry is getting ready to do reverse mortgage commercials instead of measuring the drapes for the Oval Office.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 05:03 AM (Hxh2/)

235 Actually there have. Trump was just loud and crude about it. Krikorian at NR (oh em gee!) has been absolutely incessant about border security and building a wall. Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:31 AM (lVU49) He said candidate. No candidate was talking about immigration except in the bland bromides of high wall and wide gate. That's not what people wanted to hear. And many of the ones saying that had far more liberal stances before running. Also, we're talking primary here, not general election. My choices are Trump, Cruz (see above paragraph), and no one else.

Posted by: WOPR at January 25, 2016 05:03 AM (LTDSy)

236 Ryan has been disappointing in a lot of ways but the omnibus was all Boehner's process and his doing. Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 09:59 AM (Hxh2/) Puh-leeease. Are you saying the Weeping Boner passed that bill all on his very own? And who did Ryan use to pass his POS spending spree bill? Stop looking for excuses for any of these traitorous lowlifes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 25, 2016 05:03 AM (zc3Db)

237 @219 Please stop with this nonsensical defending of Ryan. Ryan was the ways and means chairman in 13, he was the budget chairman in 2014 and speaker of the house in 2015 and was the SOH before this monstrosity was passed and had all of the power to shape and stop it but fell back on the bullshit tactic that he was powerless to do anything about it because he wanted this passed. SO STOP THE BULLSHIT!! This is Ryan's baby. And no amount of sophistry is going to billshit the people.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 25, 2016 05:03 AM (9XuqE)

238 Well, I'm having an unexpectedly good day.  Called the hospital about a bill where they were charging me $530 for something I'd already paid off.  Turned out to be an error on their end.  First time something went that well for me in a long time.  Feel like doing a happy dance now.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 25, 2016 05:04 AM (HalrA)

239 The National Background Investigations Bureau will operate under OPM and absorb the Federal Investigative Service, which had previously handled more than 1 million security clearance and suitability investigations a year. Under a Clinton administration this new agency will report directly to Huma and part of their budget will come from reich-wing asset seizures.

Posted by: MTF at January 25, 2016 05:04 AM (TxJGV)

240 Props to the Norks who undoubtably knew they were dishing out bullshit stew... That's the only stew the Nork's have.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 25, 2016 05:04 AM (VDCWC)

241 >>Oh great. What could possibly go wrong? Let's see, the OPM has already been totally hacked, so....maybe now the FBI will be hacked, too? Why would you give OPM *more* responsibility?

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 05:04 AM (NOIQH)

242 "The Obama administration plans a new office to handle background checks for federal security clearances, according to the Office of Personnel Management."

Now all they need, to come in and run the new amalgamation, is an identity-politics figurehead with absolutely no relevant background and zero managerial competence. Ding! All done!

Posted by: torquewrench at January 25, 2016 05:04 AM (noWW6)

243 As Zika Virus Spreads, El Salvador Asks Women Not Get Pregnant Until 2018

Wish I could help.

Posted by: DDT at January 25, 2016 05:04 AM (H7HCV)

244 The biggest suckers who ever sucked. Posted by: Look to your left, look to your right, they're both morons at January 25, 2016 10:01 AM (Y8P5w) Vote GOPe!!! Again!! And again!! And again!! We'll be good this time. Swearsies!!!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 25, 2016 05:04 AM (fWAjv)

245 Passengers arriving at Kennedy Airport on an international flight were allowed to exit the busy hub without going through Customs for at least the second time in recent months, the Daily News has learned. Bumbling airline and security officials let travelers on American Airlines Flight 1223 from Cancun, Mexico, out of the airport on Monday morning without having their passports or bags checked, sources told The News. Weasel Zippers TOP Men!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 05:04 AM (kzdjp)

246 >>We went over this yesterday. Ryan was in charge of budgets since 2011 and before that was Ways and Means Well it's nice that you went over it yesterday but Boehner was in charge of House process which superseded the budget issues. The whole point of doing individual budgets is to be able to make distinct spending decisions instead of the omnibus crap Boehner favored. Watch and see what happens going forward.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 05:05 AM (Hxh2/)

247 Ryan has been disappointing in a lot of ways but the omnibus was all Boehner's process and his doing. I don't give Ryan a pass for the simple reason that before he was Speaker, he was the Chairman of the House Budget Committee... the fracking committee that writes the fracking budget. The idea that Boehner left him with a budget mess is bullshirt.

Posted by: V the K at January 25, 2016 05:06 AM (O7MnT)

248 236 No way he gets that job over Alex Trebek and the Fonz!

Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2016 05:06 AM (8HTq1)

249 Let's see, the OPM has already been totally hacked, so....maybe now the FBI will be hacked, too? Why would you give OPM *more* responsibility? Posted by: Lizzy Hacking is defined as illegal entry. In this case, foreign entities were GIVEN access. Which they exploited for years.

Posted by: Dan D. Lyin at January 25, 2016 05:06 AM (326rv)

250 I hate RINOs so I'm going to vote for the biggest, baddest RINO there ever was!  Harumph!  (Smells fingers, stares off into space.)

Posted by: Tony the Trump Supporter at January 25, 2016 05:06 AM (Y8P5w)

251

Well, I'm having an unexpectedly good day. Called the hospital about a bill where they were charging me $530 for something I'd already paid off. Turned out to be an error on their end. First time something went that well for me in a long time. Feel like doing a happy dance now.------Cato the Rebel Without a Party

 

Don't. You'll fall and break your hip.

Posted by: Tilikum Cruel Assault Whale at January 25, 2016 05:06 AM (m3iiU)

252 247 Well,it's not like anything illegal ever comes into the country from Mexico....

Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2016 05:07 AM (8HTq1)

253 That Sabo 'flipping the Trump' poster is awesome.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 25, 2016 05:07 AM (H7HCV)

254 "Women Run The Home Better Than Men Do" You see, here's my response to this - Half or more, of the things involved in "running the home" are things the most men couldn't give a crap about. My wife wants to do all that stuff on a much tighter schedule than I ever would. Great. Have at it. The last thing I need is to take my valuable time and spend it on things that aren't a priority for me, and still get the same kind of crap for being slightly off her schedule and not just exactly perfect. Life is too short.

Posted by: deadrody at January 25, 2016 05:07 AM (vJOFB)

255 I don't give Ryan a pass for the simple reason that before he was Speaker, he was the Chairman of the House Budget Committee... the fracking committee that writes the fracking budget. The idea that Boehner left him with a budget mess is bullshirt. --------- I don't give him a pass now. But depending on what he does going forward, I may. Can't say I'm all that hopeful. Though I do hope it improves somewhat.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 05:08 AM (gmeXX)

256 Starting episode 5 (of 10) of "Occupied" on Netflix. Norwegian series, English subtitles. I like it enough to tolerate subtitles, so that's something. It's an international political thriller type story. Imdb simply describes it as.... "In the near future, Norway is occupied by Russia on behalf of the European Union, due to the fact that the newly elected environmental friendly Norwegian government has stopped the all important oil- and gas-production in the North Sea.". That's the jumping off point, there's a lot more to it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at January 25, 2016 05:08 AM (2cS/G)

257 >>Hacking is defined as illegal entry. In this case, foreign entities were GIVEN access. Which they exploited for years. Good point - which makes it even worse. There should have been massive firings for that alone, and yet they're getting more responsibility. Life in the Obama era: f%$# up, move up.

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 05:08 AM (NOIQH)

258 The only thing that changes with Obama's new background check agency is the letterhead.

Posted by: Cael Lug at January 25, 2016 05:10 AM (8Qhyj)

259 Watch and see what happens going forward. Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 10:05 AM (Hxh2/) Yeah, I can't wait for the eGOPs comprehensive immigration deal with the asshole in the White House. That'll surely be good for the Country! Amirite?

Posted by: RickZ at January 25, 2016 05:10 AM (Ix+HS)

260 There should have been massive firings hangings for that alone, and yet they're getting more responsibility. FIFY

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 25, 2016 05:11 AM (ZQfW9)

261 It will all be over in about 44 Days. If it is not before then. I think this time around Super Tuesday will be the clincher.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and Unimproved. at January 25, 2016 05:11 AM (WVsWD)

262 Let's see, the OPM has already been totally hacked, so....maybe now the FBI will be hacked, too? Why would you give OPM *more* responsibility? Posted by: Lizzy Yet another topic that no one in DC gives a shit about. Forget right or left, or immigration policy, or abortion. These fuckers are so lazy, and so incompetent, that millions of records were exposed to foreign companies who handed the shit over. Including information of people who weren't even directly involved (references and relatives). See anyone giving one single itty shit? Nope. Again, no none lost their job, their bonus, their benefits. But (Trump, tea party, squirrel) is the REAL problem.

Posted by: Dan D. Lyin at January 25, 2016 05:11 AM (326rv)

263 Hillary! 2016
 
I'll Make Crime Pay

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at January 25, 2016 05:11 AM (gyKtp)

264 >>Great. Have at it. The last thing I need is to take my valuable time and spend it on things that aren't a priority for me, and still get the same kind of crap for being slightly off her schedule and not just exactly perfect. Life is too short. That is so true. Heard a guest on the Dennis Prager Male/Female hour who put it this way re: nagging: If you're constantly having to remind your spouse to do something it means that it is more important to you than it is to him. And if it's more important to you, then why don't you just do it yourself? Seriously, this makes life so much easier - don't nag, just do it (provided it's something you are capable of doing).

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 05:12 AM (NOIQH)

265 Hillary! 2016 I'll Make Crime Pay Posted by: GnuBreed at January 25, 2016 10:11 AM (gyKtp) She already has

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 05:12 AM (kzdjp)

266 You know what would make this a perfect Monday? One more Federalist author telling us that the reason we're supporting Trump is that we're anti-intellectual. We're just throwing a fit because all the really smart people are thinking Jeb or Rubio is the best choice. Fuck.

Posted by: jwest at January 25, 2016 05:12 AM (Zs4uk)

267 I don't give Ryan a pass for the simple reason that before he was Speaker, he was the Chairman of the House Budget Committee... the fracking committee that writes the fracking budget. The idea that Boehner left him with a budget mess is bullshirt. ________ Doesnt really matter who was directly responsible in putting the shit-sandwich together. Ryan voted for it. Thats all one needs to know about this alleged "budget hawk".

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 25, 2016 05:12 AM (cexFM)

268 For some reason, supporting Trump reminds me of the old military axiom: There is no problem that cannot be solved by the application of a sufficient quantity of high explosives! Posted by: Hrothgar (Esteemed GOP Establishment Consultant) at January 25, 2016 09:41 AM (wYnyS) You forgot the second part of the old axiom: "The real trick is to not be around when they detonate"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2016 05:13 AM (j4wsR)

269 Hillary! 2016 I'll Make Crime Pay Posted by: GnuBreed at January 25, 2016 10:11 AM (gyKtp) Hillarity! For The Coffin 2016! Which, given all her health issues she's hiding from the public, might just 'unexpectedly' happen.

Posted by: RickZ at January 25, 2016 05:14 AM (Ix+HS)

270 >>I don't give Ryan a pass for the simple reason that before he was Speaker, he was the Chairman of the House Budget Committee... the fracking committee that writes the fracking budget. >>The idea that Boehner left him with a budget mess is bullshirt. That RINO shill Mark Meadows, the guy who filed the bill to remove Boehner, disagrees. http://tinyurl.com/gu34xck It was too late to do individual spending bills before the end of the year once Ryan took over. That's not shilling, just a fact. So there was either Boehner's omnibus or no bill at all. Omnibus bills don't allow you to do the kind of surgical spending cuts on individual bills that most want. You have to do a take it or leave it approach on everything and it is difficult if not impossible to get concessions. The problem where we are with politics today is there is so much anger and mistrust, deserved, that we get solutions like Donald Trump and people who should know how the appropriations process actually works become shills and RINOs for pointing out facts.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 05:14 AM (Hxh2/)

271 "I don't give Ryan a pass for the simple reason that before he was Speaker, he was the Chairman of the House Budget Committee... the fracking committee that writes the fracking budget."

And this is why the GOP establishment formed up in ranks behind Lyin' Ryan to grease him into the top job. They know his record and they know that he won't be upsetting any apple carts.

_Springtime For Lobbyists_.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 25, 2016 05:14 AM (noWW6)

272 One more Federalist author telling us that the reason we're supporting Trump is that we're anti-intellectual. We're just throwing a fit because all the really smart people are thinking Jeb or Rubio is the best choice. ---------- Some people are supporting Cruz. And some of us believe he is the best choice.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 05:15 AM (gmeXX)

273 Well, that Harsanyi article at The Federalist sure was a waste of time. "Trump isn't the solution to GOP incompetence. I don't know what is, but it's sure not Trump and anyone who says he is is stupid." The pundit class is so fvcking tedious.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 25, 2016 05:15 AM (Wckf4)

274 In my marriage I'm in charge of all the important stuff, like the TV remote, changing light bulbs, making chili and keeping the spice drawer organized alphabetically. My wife does everything else.

Posted by: MTF at January 25, 2016 05:15 AM (TxJGV)

275 I have read them and they are ALL assholes who I don't trust. Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 25, 2016 09:30 AM (t2KH5) THIS!

Posted by: Drill_thrawl at January 25, 2016 05:15 AM (YtbIl)

276 You forgot the second part of the old axiom: "The real trick is to not be around when they detonate" An EO specialist at a full run outranks any officer.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 25, 2016 05:15 AM (9krrF)

277 Nice dump!

Posted by: Martin Bashir at January 25, 2016 05:15 AM (3dOE/)

278 Whenever you go into negotiations with the idea that the negotiations must not fail, you will be lucky to leave with your pants. At least Trump has that aspect right.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 25, 2016 05:15 AM (evdj2)

279 276 You left out killing spiders.

Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2016 05:15 AM (8HTq1)

280 3
So does a Doomberg third party run help or hinder anyone?

Is he John Anderson or Ross Perot?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 25, 2016 09:00 AM (zLP1L)


Being from NY, do you have any opinion that it would hurt Trump's chances in NY?

Posted by: Martin Bashir at January 25, 2016 05:16 AM (3dOE/)

281

I like to see a poll at aos addressing the primary reason for supporting Trump.

 


A. He will make a good President

 

B. He will build a wall

 

C. I want to destroy the GOP

 

D. Let It Burn

 

 

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 25, 2016 09:42 AM (ziriD)

 

C, with just a soupcon of D.

 

That is, if a quasi-Trumpkin like me is allowed to use such NR-approved words as "soupcon."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 25, 2016 05:16 AM (X6fMO)

282 Off scat-freak sock.

Posted by: rebel flounder at January 25, 2016 05:16 AM (3dOE/)

283 The problem where we are with politics today is there is so much anger and mistrust, deserved, that we get solutions like Donald Trump and people who should know how the appropriations process actually works become shills and RINOs for pointing out facts. It comes down to trust. The folks who should know should also have known better; instead they went along to get along. They became part of the problem and now, quelle surprise, nobody trusts them. Remember when Ace was all about branding? Well, the GOP's brand is radioactive. That's not a problem you fix with business as usual and a fresh coat of paint.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 25, 2016 05:17 AM (9krrF)

284 Well, that Harsanyi article at The Federalist sure was a waste of time. And it's not just that article that Harsanyi is wrong about. He seems to have gone over to the Dark Side.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy[/b][/s][/u][/i] at January 25, 2016 05:18 AM (LUgeY)

285 Being from NY, do you have any opinion that it would hurt Trump's chances in NY? Posted by: Martin Bashir at January 25, 2016 10:16 AM (3dOE/) Blooming Idiot is not well liked in NYC. His administration is not wistfully viewed upon at all. Of course, Mayor DeBolshevik makes Blooming Idiot look like Attila the Hun.

Posted by: RickZ at January 25, 2016 05:18 AM (Ix+HS)

286 >>You left out killing spiders That one is critical!

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 05:18 AM (NOIQH)

287 This is where we are headed. http://tinyurl.com/zst9x2v Leftists, Communists, Open Borders radicals protested Sunday in Calais. The mob then stormed a British Ferry docked at the port. Trump/Cruz. Because all the rest are pussies. *my intellectual argument and I'm sticking to it.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 25, 2016 05:18 AM (fWAjv)

288 That is, if a quasi-Trumpkin like me is allowed to use such NR-approved words as "soupcon." Oh yeah. We're classy as f*** around here.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 25, 2016 05:18 AM (9krrF)

289
"Trump isn't the solution to GOP incompetence.


Again, it's not imcompetence, it's dishonesty.

They know exactly what they're doing, and they're getting what they want.

They're just telling us it's being forced on them and their hands are tied.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 25, 2016 05:19 AM (H7HCV)

290 For Vic, from prior thread: "71 Has anybody else noticed that Fox has become as the Daily Caller for pop-ups, auto plays and slow load times due to all of the above. What is it with page designers now? Don't they know they are creating shit?" I use three Chrome extensions: Adblock+, Privacy Badger, and Disconnect. They may have some overlapping functions, but together they stop 99% of the crap and tracking bugs, and things load fast. The only thing I have problems with are these slide-in ads that get triggered after a few seconds, like on the Weekly Standard. Sometimes they will disable a page feature you want - for example, I don't have any text formatting options when commenting here, and on some sites videos won't play - but with enough fiddling you can customize for each page. This may be more trouble than you want to deal with, but it keeps the ads, malware, etc. away for me. If you really want to kill all the annoyances, there's NoScript, but I find it breaks so many things that I remove it in frustration after a while.

Posted by: despair at January 25, 2016 05:19 AM (VrdxH)

291 I been living in the WH and you know nothing about it! Thank you fools!

Posted by: Michelle's Momma at January 25, 2016 05:19 AM (eniyi)

292 Well, that Harsanyi article at The Federalist sure was a waste of time. ------------ I haven't read his article. I'm less anti-Trump (though I probably am) and more pro-Cruz. I do wish the pundit class (for lack of a better term) would make this case. But maybe they are not as pro-Cruz as I am. Too often it appears that the anti-Trump case is anti-Trump voters, which to me is the wrong way to do it. The way to make the anti-Trump case is to simply point out that Trump is not the wrecking ball people assume - that Cruz is the potential wrecking ball.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 05:20 AM (gmeXX)

293 If you really want to kill all the annoyances, there's NoScript, but I find it breaks so many things that I remove it in frustration after a while. If a page seems broken with NoScript, it probably wasn't NoScript that broke it...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 25, 2016 05:21 AM (9krrF)

294 So I'm guessing Megyn Kelly has no shot at being Trump's press secretary, then.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 25, 2016 05:21 AM (r9tFS)

295 The way to make the anti-Trump case is to simply point out that Trump is not the wrecking ball people assume - that Cruz is the potential wrecking ball. Yes, this.

Posted by: no good deed at January 25, 2016 05:21 AM (GgxVX)

296 This is awesome: Olympics to let athletes compete as the gender of their choice. This is what it will take to destroy the whole gender-fluid, there are no differences between men and women nonsense. LOL! Now let's get rid of Title IX, stat!

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 05:21 AM (NOIQH)

297 I do wish the pundit class (for lack of a better term) would make this case. But maybe they are not as pro-Cruz as I am. They aren't. Most are probably Rubes for Rubio. In otherwords, about as useless as a cat flap on a submarine.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 25, 2016 05:22 AM (9krrF)

298 Whenever you go into negotiations with the idea that the negotiations must not fail, you will be lucky to leave with your pants. At least Trump has that aspect right. Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 25, 2016 10:15 AM (evdj2) The answer of course is to walk into the conference room already pantsless. And carrying a trident. Either your opponents immediately walk out or they sit there thinking you're fucking nuts.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2016 05:22 AM (j4wsR)

299 So we have a candidate, after the SB shootings, that says we need to have a temporary halt to immigration. That seems sensible to a lot of people. It's clear that we did not see that couple as a threat. So, do the other candidates agree it's a good idea? Well, no. They tie themselves in knots, calling people racists for thinking such a thing. Even conservative Ted Cruz can't say it's a good idea. We have to let more people in on HB-1 visas. Why is this hard for the GOPe to understand? People, thinking people, want a halt to immigration, before we get into the mess Europe is in.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 25, 2016 05:22 AM (Lqy/e)

300
Howard Kurtz

I love the NYT detail of Trump staying in a Holiday Inn Express in Iowa. Now you know how badly he wants to win



"Whoa!  Free instant coffee?  Hot damn!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 05:22 AM (kdS6q)

301 >>Remember when Ace was all about branding? Well, the GOP's brand is radioactive. That's not a problem you fix with business as usual and a fresh coat of paint. Couldn't agree more. But facts actually do matter. The Speaker sets the House agenda and when he chooses to go the omnibus route instead of doing individual appropriations bills it changes the dynamic of what is possible in the budget process. It doesn't matter what Ryan did or didn't do last year as far as being Speaker. The cake was baked. He has said and done some things that give me pause but I want to see if he actually keeps to his promise to do individual spending bills and take input from the committees, the exact opposite process from Boehner. And that more than anything was what caused the revolt in the House and cost Boehner his job. Hopefully, Ryan keeps his word.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 05:23 AM (Hxh2/)

302 125 Taliban demands prisoners released, sanctions removed before joining peace negotiations (nothing new here, but I am pissed off that a) negotiation is started with a demand for full surrender, and b) our crack negotiators will think surrender is a valid negotiation tool) http://preview.tinyurl.com/gnjue4b Posted by: Kindltot at January 25, 2016 09:32 AM (q2o3 Very simple solution to a leader with even a small pair; I agree to your terms, let's meet at X on Y. B-2 targets X on Y Negotiations complete.

Posted by: Drill_thrawl at January 25, 2016 05:23 AM (YtbIl)

303 ***"And it's not just that article that Harsanyi is wrong about. He seems to have gone over to the Dark Side."*** Agreed. He's gone full Kevin Williamson. "Trump supporters are stupid and insane for not agreeing with me that we need to keep voting for the same people and expecting different results" I don't think Trump's gonna fix anything. Problem is, I don't think ANY of them are. The rot is too deep for any one man to fix. Just look at the House for fvck's sake.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 25, 2016 05:23 AM (Wckf4)

304 The way to make the anti-Trump case is to simply point out that Trump is not the wrecking ball people assume - that Cruz is the potential wrecking ball. If you can make the case, go to it! Trump paved the road, there's no reason someone else can't take it from there...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 25, 2016 05:23 AM (9krrF)

305 1) Trump wants to build a wall and truly reform immigration 2) Trump wants to reform the tax code, reducing rates overall and especially the outrageous business tax 3) Trump wants to hold people in the VA responsible for the wait list deaths and also reform it to allow veterans to receive treatment outside the VA system 4) Trump wants to eliminate Common Core and the Department of Education 5) Trump wants to negotiate better trade agreements and not give the farm away to third world countries. 6) Wants to ban funding to Planned Parenthood and stop abortions except for rape, incest or life of mother. 7)Allow states to decide their own drug laws Trump thinks that man-made global warming is a joke and is against cap and trade 9)Trump is for reciprocal conceal carry

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 05:23 AM (LXJ1e)

306 298 I've been hoping for this.

Posted by: steevy at January 25, 2016 05:23 AM (8HTq1)

307 "A Confident, Pro-Growth Agenda," Were his companions still robustly singing The Internationale in the background as Comrade Ryan addressed the running dog lackeys of the capitalist press?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u] at January 25, 2016 05:23 AM (BK3ZS)

308 Oh, and f--k Kevin D. Williamson in particular.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 25, 2016 05:23 AM (r9tFS)

309 Hopefully, Ryan keeps his word. He will. Just not, I suspect, to us.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 25, 2016 05:24 AM (9krrF)

310 298 This is awesome: Olympics to let athletes compete as the gender of their choice. This is what it will take to destroy the whole gender-fluid, there are no differences between men and women nonsense. LOL! Now let's get rid of Title IX, stat! Posted by: Lizzy at January 25, 2016 10:21 AM (NOIQH) WOO HOO!!!

Posted by: Dora Ratjen at January 25, 2016 05:24 AM (fWAjv)

311 Hopefully, Ryan keeps his word. Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 10:23 AM (Hxh2/) Boy, have I got a deal on a bridge for you! Alternative: Lucy promises not to pull the football away from Charlie Brown's attempted kick.

Posted by: RickZ at January 25, 2016 05:24 AM (Ix+HS)

312
Agreed. He's gone full Kevin Williamson.


Don't never go full Kevin Williamson.

Posted by: Lincoln Osiris at January 25, 2016 05:25 AM (H7HCV)

313 Hold my Dom Perignon and watch this!

Posted by: a moron at January 25, 2016 05:25 AM (DLIIY)

314 Government grows without limit, just like a shrub. The only way to have limited government is to periodically prune it back. We have been negligent in doing that, so now we have to take a chain saw to it.

Posted by: despair at January 25, 2016 05:25 AM (VrdxH)

315 The way to make the anti-Trump case is to simply point out that Trump is not the wrecking ball people assume - that Cruz is the potential wrecking ball. ------------ Cruz is a wrecking ball in that he is completely unequal to the task of being President. No executive experience.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 05:25 AM (LXJ1e)

316 Remember when Ace was all about branding? Well, the GOP's brand is radioactive. That's not a problem you fix with business as usual and a fresh coat of paint. Conservatives, liberals, and moderates all hate the GOP. That in itself is an amazing achievement.

Posted by: V the K at January 25, 2016 05:26 AM (O7MnT)

317 #38 Fuck you, you snotty prick. I hope you die from some suppurating anorectal disease, you elitist shit. And you just know that the snotty elitist prick congratulated himself on his clever bon mot. Probably celebrated afterward with a snifter of brandy. (Hey KDW, I used a French phrase, 'zat OK's with you? I mean, I am an unwashed heathen in flyover country and all.)

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at January 25, 2016 05:26 AM (r9tFS)

318 off sock

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 25, 2016 05:26 AM (fWAjv)

319 ***"The way to make the anti-Trump case is to simply point out that Trump is not the wrecking ball people assume - that Cruz is the potential wrecking ball."*** That's the way I'm leaning these days. Though I'm not even ready to give Cruz my qualified support yet.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 25, 2016 05:27 AM (Wckf4)

320 Hopefully, Ryan keeps his word. Hoping that the Republican leadership will keep its word is how we got Trump.

Posted by: V the K at January 25, 2016 05:27 AM (O7MnT)

321 43 Donald Trump Is Not The Solution To GOP Incompetence


Never ascribe to stupidity what can be explained by malice.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 25, 2016 09:15 AM (evdj2)


He's punishment for ignoring your base.

Posted by: BignJames at January 25, 2016 05:27 AM (j7iSn)

322 An EO specialist at a full run outranks any officer. Heh. That's new to me. Persuasive, too.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 25, 2016 05:28 AM (1xUj/)

323 If you can make the case, go to it! Trump paved the road, there's no reason someone else can't take it from there... ----------- Trump has clearly signaled he will make deals. He will work with the Dems. He will raise subsidies. In other words - status quo. Cruz has signaled he will follow the Constitution. Neither is assured of course, and neither will follow that exactly. But if you are looking for a person who has the potential to really change the game in DC - Cruz is the better option. If Trump really does do all the things that Make America Great Again thinks Trump really wants to do - then great. But Cruz has supported all those positions as well. I believe Cruz actually holds those positions and so will be more willing to spend the political capital to obtain them.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 05:28 AM (gmeXX)

324 312 298 This is awesome: Olympics to let athletes compete as the gender of their choice. This is what it will take to destroy the whole gender-fluid, there are no differences between men and women nonsense. LOL! Now let's get rid of Title IX, stat! Posted by: Lizzy at January 25, 2016 10:21 AM (NOIQH) WOO HOO!!! Posted by: Dora Ratjen at January 25, 2016 10:24 AM (fWAjv) Yes! Posted by: East German Ladies Swim Team

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 25, 2016 05:28 AM (VDCWC)

325
Un Amuse-bouche:

Is Ted Cruz Really an Awful, Terrible Jerk?
Well, terms like "backpfeifengesicht" tend to come up.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/01/ted-cruz-jerk-hated

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 05:29 AM (kdS6q)

326 NYT link from Drudge: We urgently need more effective treatments for anxiety disorders. What if we could do better than creating a new safe memory --- and actually get rid of emotions attached to the old bad one? New research suggests that it may be possible not just to change certain types of emotional memories, but even to erase them. We've learned that memories are uniquely vulnerable to alteration at two points: when we first lay them down, and later, when we retrieve them. *whispers* Miranda......

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 05:29 AM (NOIQH)

327 Cruz is a wrecking ball in that he is completely unequal to the task of being President. No executive experience. ------------ I do not assume that the government is anything like business. Business experience is nice but it does not trump ideology.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 05:29 AM (gmeXX)

328 It seems to me some R candidate could get a serious bump in the polls by vowing to see 3 things through once elected:
 
1. Hillary and Lois Lerner will face a grand jury investigation.
 
2. Make it as easy to fire a federal employee as a private employee.
 
3. Set up a separate express court system dedicated to prosecuting federal employees.
 
Everyone knows Leviathan is rarely held accountable. Why not vow to change that?

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at January 25, 2016 05:30 AM (gyKtp)

329 "I don't give Ryan a pass for the simple reason that before he was Speaker, he was the Chairman of the House Budget Committee... the fracking committee that writes the fracking budget." ---------------- Ryan was the guy, when forced to make a budget proposal against Obama's proposal came up with the conservative budget that balanced... in forty years. After the outcry from people he came up with one that balanced... in ten years.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 05:30 AM (LXJ1e)

330 Hopefully, Ryan keeps his word. I am sure he will since he is a RINO par exellance. And he has already gone way out of his way to Attack Trump, more than he has attacked any Dem.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 05:30 AM (kzdjp)

331 *whispers* Miranda...... Posted by: Lizzy at January 25, 2016 10:29 AM (NOIQH) *snort*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2016 05:30 AM (j4wsR)

332 Without Trump taking the arrows, would the establishment and the press already have destroyed Cruz?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 25, 2016 05:31 AM (H7HCV)

333 "I love the NYT detail of Trump staying in a Holiday Inn Express in Iowa. Now you know how badly he wants to win"

Flashing back here to John Kerry sitting in a motel coffee shop in Iowa and saying imperiously to the waitress, "I'd like to start with some green tea," and having her look at him oddly and say "Um, we have Lipton's."

Posted by: torquewrench at January 25, 2016 05:31 AM (noWW6)

334 ***"Cruz is a wrecking ball in that he is completely unequal to the task of being President. No executive experience."*** Oh FFS, not this shit again.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 25, 2016 05:31 AM (Wckf4)

335 Kevin Williamson and MP4 are both right. The GOP is fucked because neither of them is willing to pretend not to hate the other anymore. Red Team is dead.

Posted by: a phoenician sailor at January 25, 2016 05:31 AM (W51NF)

336 Morning Gang. Just waking up here on the Left Coast. Lets see what mischief we can get into this week!

Posted by: Diogenes at January 25, 2016 05:32 AM (r65B3)

337 >>WOO HOO!!! Posted by: Dora Ratjen at January 25, 2016 10:24 AM (fWAjv) >>Yes! Posted by: East German Ladies Swim Team *grins* Posted by: Iran's "women's" soccer team

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 05:32 AM (NOIQH)

338 Danny DeVito isnt holding back when it comes to the Oscars diversity controversy. Its unfortunate that the entire country is racist, No it's not We don't shoot short people YET

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 05:33 AM (kzdjp)

339 Without Trump taking the arrows, would the establishment and the press already have destroyed Cruz? ---------- Cruz seems capable of defending himself.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 05:33 AM (gmeXX)

340 "The idea that we're putting those onto private unguarded servers ... enemy nation could get access ... or .. the Secretary being blackmailed "  Gorka

ummm yeah, but after Chinagate and then all the Clinton foundation bribery, Hillary is ALREADY compromised with any that made deals with her, already blackmailed at least indirectly, in that she must keep promising to stay in bed with all her "johns". 

Maybe China has already suggested: "hey Hill, you know it would be a shame if we had to leak some of the details of your old agreements of weapons tech from the 1990's ... maybe you should move some of those SAP files over to your private server ... we promise not to look ... wink wink"

Every bad player already has hooks in Hillary ... these deals are a two way street.  Snitches get stitches.

Posted by: Illiniwek at January 25, 2016 05:33 AM (5Gpe2)

341 ***"Hopefully, Ryan keeps his word."*** You owe me a new monitor. What about Ryan's history makes you think he will behave any differently than the GOPe? Not what you think will or hope will happen, will his pattern suddenly change and, more importantly, why?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 25, 2016 05:33 AM (Wckf4)

342 Cruz is a wrecking ball in that he is completely unequal to the task of being President. No executive experience. ------------ I do not assume that the government is anything like business. Business experience is nice but it does not trump ideology. Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 10:29 AM (gmeXX) ------------------ Well in that sense Cruz is just like Obama, expect the same results.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 05:33 AM (LXJ1e)

343 Cruz was the longest running TX Solicitor General. That's enough experience for m.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 25, 2016 05:33 AM (iQIUe)

344 >>Without Trump taking the arrows, would the establishment and the press already have destroyed Cruz? Definitely. They were all on the "Cruz is crazy" narrative when Trump crashed the party.

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 05:34 AM (NOIQH)

345 Huh...this sounds oddly familiar: A Clinton is going to attempt to avoid prosecution by maligning the investigator(s) instead of addressing the investigation. http://tinyurl.com/pickinonmaclinton Shorter: It's not fair, he's they've been picking on me for years. Oh, and, CONFLICT OF INTEREST!!

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 25, 2016 05:34 AM (5buP8)

346 Cruz is a wrecking ball in that he is completely unequal to the task of being President. No executive experience. And the current occupant has how much executive experience, exactly? Neither Cruz or Trump are the problem. The whole Left is.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy[/b][/s][/u][/i] at January 25, 2016 05:34 AM (LUgeY)

347 Well in that sense Cruz is just like Obama, expect the same results. ---------- Cruz has the same ideology as Obama. Did not know that.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 05:34 AM (gmeXX)

348 165 I like to see a poll at aos addressing the primary reason for supporting Trump. A. He will make a good President B. He will build a wall C. I want to destroy the GOP D. Let It Burn Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 25, 2016 09:42 AM (ziriD) Missed one. E. Fuck You

Posted by: Drill_thrawl at January 25, 2016 05:36 AM (YtbIl)

349 No, considering Cruz is nothing politically like Obama we don't necessarily have to expect the same results, buy you never know until someone gets in office. Here is a list of Senators who became President, Some quite good. Some very bad. I would prefer a Governor as President, but I think the patriotism, personality (including intelligent) and people skills are more important: http://preview.tinyurl.com/2phx4x

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 25, 2016 05:37 AM (w4NZ8)

350 I like to see a poll at aos addressing the primary reason for supporting Trump. A. He will make a good President B. He will build a wall C. I want to destroy the GOP D. Let It Burn Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 25, 2016 09:42 AM (ziriD) Missed one. E. Fuck You Posted by: Drill_thrawl at January 25, 2016 10:36 AM (YtbIl) We could do worse

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 05:37 AM (kzdjp)

351 >>Danny DeVito isnt holding back when it comes to the Oscars diversity controversy. Its unfortunate that the entire country is racist.... Yeah, not buying it. Just because *your* industry is racists and sexist to the extreme doesn't make it so for the rest of the country. This is what is so galling about being lectured by Hollywood - they have business practices that would be unheard of elsewhere (casting couches, abusing child actors, race and age-based hiring), yet they constantly lecture us about things like racism, sexism, equal pay, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 05:37 AM (NOIQH)

352 334 Without Trump taking the arrows, would the establishment and the press already have destroyed Cruz? Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 25, 2016 10:31 AM (H7H Without Trump , Cruz would have been able to state his case against those arrows. That's his forte. Now his logical arguments and defense of conservatism is just background noise to Trump's populist crude rhetoric.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 25, 2016 05:37 AM (ziriD)

353 "1. Hillary and Lois Lerner will face a grand jury investigation."

You know what else could also really stand to have a grand jury empaneled and some daylight focused upon it? Pigford.

It was one of the late Andrew Breitbart's galvanizing signature issues.

Just a straight-up mass handout of money to racial cronies on completely false pretenses.

It's not even that it was a huge amount of money in the context of annual trillion-plus-dollar deficits. It's instead that Pigford is so perfectly symbolic of the lawlessness under color of authority which has characterized the last seven years.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 25, 2016 05:37 AM (noWW6)

354 330 It seems to me some R candidate could get a serious bump in the polls by vowing to see 3 things through once elected: 1. Hillary and Lois Lerner will face a grand jury investigation. 2. Make it as easy to fire a federal employee as a private employee. 3. Set up a separate express court system dedicated to prosecuting federal employees. Everyone knows Leviathan is rarely held accountable. Why not vow to change that? Posted by: GnuBreed at January 25, 2016 10:30 AM (gyKtp) --------- That would be nice. However, does saying your going to prosecute someone while running for office "taint" that effort when your in office? Honestly, don't know.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 05:38 AM (LXJ1e)

355 >>What about Ryan's history makes you think he will behave any differently than the GOPe? >>Not what you think will or hope will happen, will his pattern suddenly change and, more importantly, why? Because it's already started? It's been in all the papers, not exactly a secret, and he's been getting good reviews from some of Boehner's harshest critics about running a more open process and following regular order. http://tinyurl.com/hk99wge It will be pretty easy to tell if he's keeping his word or not. We either see individual spending bills under regular order or we don't.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 05:38 AM (Hxh2/)

356 "Intelligence"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 25, 2016 05:38 AM (w4NZ8)

357 If you really want to kill all the annoyances, there's NoScript, but I find it breaks so many things that I remove it in frustration after a while.

Posted by: despair at January 25, 2016 10:19 AM (VrdxH)


I have already fixed the problem.  Somehow all the sites that I had blocked became unblocked.  And I haven't had any problems with noscript.

Posted by: Vic[/i]-we have no party at January 25, 2016 05:38 AM (t2KH5)

358 Un Amuse-bouche: Is Ted Cruz Really an Awful, Terrible Jerk? Well, terms like "backpfeifengesicht" tend to come up. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/01/ted-cruz-jerk-hated Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 10:29 AM (kdS6q) It may be easy for someone to lob anonymous shots at Cruz. But there are plenty of others, including prominent Republicans, who have not been shy about sharing their feelings about Cruz on the record. Here is a quick guide to Cruz's loudest detractors: Bob Dole John McCain George W. Bush Lindsey Graham John Boehner Peter King My well thought out rebuttal http://tinyurl.com/kktc4lc

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 25, 2016 05:38 AM (fWAjv)

359 They'd call us TROLLs, RINOs, and SHILLs But every night all the morons would come down from Capitol Hill And lay their HQ memberships down

Posted by: Share at January 25, 2016 05:39 AM (DLIIY)

360 Without Trump , Cruz would have been able to state his case against those arrows. That's his forte. Now his logical arguments and defense of conservatism is just background noise to Trump's populist crude rhetoric. Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 25, 2016 10:37 AM (ziriD) If Cruz comes out of this on top ( and I am for Cruz) this will make him stronger and ready for what ever the Dems throw at him. He will have been "Blooded". I don't really see a huge down side to this. If he fails to come out on top? Well better to find that out now than after the Convention.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 05:41 AM (kzdjp)

361 problem isn't that we don't have enough crappy jobs here, the problem is the lack of *good* jobs here. THAT is what we ought to do, not demanding to keep the crappy jobs. Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:37 AM (lVU49) Yeah and that theory is junk. Crappy jobs create good jobs. Second, low end jobs are all some people are capable of. If you take away low-end jobs, those people have one choice, welfare. I would rather pay more for some low end items and have more people in productive employment. Reference recent article about how we can't make the iPhone here because all of the support industries are gone. So, no it's not a bad sales job. It's that in reality it doesn't work.

Posted by: WOPR at January 25, 2016 05:42 AM (LTDSy)

362 Without Trump , Cruz would have been able to state his case against those arrows. That's his forte. Now his logical arguments and defense of conservatism is just background noise to Trump's populist crude rhetoric. Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 25, 2016 10:37 AM (ziriD) ----------- Yes, Spock, the logical arguments will have them packing the voting booths. Maybe Cruz can buy 30 minutes of airtime and pack it with syllogisms. That'll really rile them up.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 05:42 AM (LXJ1e)

363 http://tinyurl.com/gttsabq Rumsfeld isn't very happy with GHWB.

Posted by: Carol at January 25, 2016 05:42 AM (sj3Ax)

364 Devito can get himself some SJW points by blaming indicting other people.  Typical self-serving cowardice.

I'd still like to hear how the most liberal and influential 'community' in the world is overwhelmed with the attitudes they pat themselves on the back for being opposed to.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 25, 2016 05:42 AM (H7HCV)

365 Posted by: torquewrench at January 25, 2016 10:37 AM (noWW6) Absolutely agreed. I was thinking about the other scandals that could merit Grand Jury consideration. It hurt just thinking about it. And the other constant: what if any ONE of these were perped by a Republican....

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 25, 2016 05:42 AM (5buP8)

366 "When you have proven yourself a acting in bad-faith, who will deal with you and who will you trust to deal with yourself?"

The GOP establishment are the ones who need to be asking themselves this.

Given that they are the worst bad-faith actors in American politics today.

Of course, the Republican establishment _know_ who will happily deal with them no matter what: Tom Donohue and his toadies at the Chamber Of Commerce.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 25, 2016 05:42 AM (noWW6)

367 Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 10:42 AM (LXJ1e) Could you possibly make your case FOR Trump without bashing Cruz?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 25, 2016 05:43 AM (w4NZ8)

368 Without Trump , Cruz would have been able to state his case against those arrows. Without Trump, Cruz would have gotten anal. Trump is the one that rocked the media and knocked them back on their heels.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 25, 2016 05:43 AM (VDCWC)

369 Why should we be "literate" when every detailed plan of every candidate turns out to be BS?

"It was much worse than I thought it would be," they all say, right after the inauguration. Then it's business as usual.

Posted by: pj at January 25, 2016 05:43 AM (cHuNI)

370 Found this linked story over at Gateway Pundit. Harder these days to tell the difference between the tinfoil hat from the legitimate concern.

http: // dcwhispers.com/is-fox-news-preparing-proverbial-kill-shot-against-trump-campaign/

In a nutshell, quite wealthy globalists at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland say it doesn't matter who the R's nominate. They are guaranteeing a Hillary victory.

Elections. How quaint.

Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at January 25, 2016 05:43 AM (AJeMv)

371 >>George W. Bush I think it's weird how the bush's seem to get into it with all the other politicians in texas.

Posted by: Lea at January 25, 2016 05:43 AM (lIU4e)

372 I wish people would just stop saying "taint."

Posted by: Hillary! at January 25, 2016 05:44 AM (u5gzz)

373 >>>You know what would make this a perfect Monday?<<<

More Hollywood rape?

Posted by: Fritz at January 25, 2016 05:44 AM (UzPAd)

374 If Cruz comes out of this on top ( and I am for Cruz) this will make him stronger and ready for what ever the Dems throw at him. He will have been "Blooded". I don't really see a huge down side to this. ------------ Agreed, if Cruz does win, he will have been well tested. I do think it is still a big if.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 05:44 AM (gmeXX)

375 Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 10:38 AM (Hxh2/) Nothing in that link shows any concrete change in results. The only thing there are words and promises that are more a critique of process than anything. Words are nice. Results matter. Got something better?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 25, 2016 05:45 AM (Wckf4)

376
Could you possibly make your case FOR Trump without bashing Cruz?


I didn't think that was bashing Cruz, only the idea that Cruz would be able to 'logic' his way out of a media smear job.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 25, 2016 05:45 AM (H7HCV)

377 >> Crappy jobs create good jobs. And working crap jobs, like in high school, give you skills you need for your real job. Like showing up on time, not yelling at your boss, not being on drugs... An old boss used to tell me about the problems they had with the welfare to work program and most of them were that the individuals simply had no job skills of this type.

Posted by: Lea at January 25, 2016 05:45 AM (lIU4e)

378 "A. He will make a good President
B. He will build a wall
C. I want to destroy the GOP
D. Let It Burn"

E. Don't Make Me Cut A Bitch

Posted by: torquewrench at January 25, 2016 05:45 AM (noWW6)

379 >You know what would make this a perfect Monday?<<< More Hollywood rape? Posted by: Fritz at January 25, 2016 10:44 AM (UzPAd) Jumping the gun there. Rapey Tuesday is tomorrow.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 25, 2016 05:46 AM (j4wsR)

380 356 That would be nice. However, does saying your going to prosecute someone while running for office "taint" that effort when your in office? Honestly, don't know.
 
A grand jury investigation is not a prosecution. It is biased, however, in that a prosecutor presents a somewhat one sided version of events; the grand jury then decides if a prosecution is warranted.

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at January 25, 2016 05:46 AM (gyKtp)

381 The worst anti-Trump pieces are the concern-trolls, IMO. Like that piece on PJM about Pierson, Trump's media gal. One of the comments was that she was antiZimmerman. Well, at the time, so was Lowry @National Review. So if the statute of limitations on Zimmerman-stupid hasn't run out yet, logically we should be disqualifying everything NR prints too

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 25, 2016 05:46 AM (5o2dQ)

382 Begonia at January 25, 2016 09:29 AM (xrAxS)

Average Joe offers a new service - up the xrAxS

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 25, 2016 05:46 AM (DL2i+)

383 I didn't think that was bashing Cruz, only the idea that Cruz would be able to 'logic' his way out of a media smear job. --------- I'm not sure if logic his way out is the right phrasing. But I don't worry about media (establishment) smear jobs on Cruz. He has shown an ability to defend himself quite capably.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 05:47 AM (gmeXX)

384
I think it's weird how the bush's seem to get into it with all the other politicians in texas.
Posted by: Lea



If one considers that there's a strata of Texas office holders that has to be removed before the next generation of Bushes can climb the ladder, not really all that surprising.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 25, 2016 05:47 AM (kdS6q)

385 It will be pretty easy to tell if he's keeping his word or not. We either see individual spending bills under regular order or we don't. Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 10:38 AM (Hxh2/) ------------- This I can agree with. I suspect the process to be more open, but not much change on the results.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 05:47 AM (LXJ1e)

386 23 Women Run The Home Better Than Men Do Article is FOS. Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 25, 2016 09:07 AM (t2KH5) Agreed. Bunch of pandering crap.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 25, 2016 05:48 AM (kpqmD)

387 And talking about TDS leading to massively mischaracterizing (well, fabricating actually) Trump speaking we get this linked at Insty's by Ed O'Driscoll: Donald Trump telling supporters in Iowa today that he could literally walk down Fifth Avenue in New York with guns blazing,"shoot somebody" and "wouldn't lose voters," [...] What does Trump's statement say about his supporters if he thinks he could commit murder and they would still support him?

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at January 25, 2016 05:49 AM (DLIIY)

388 Remember that Trump is an admirer of General George S. Patton, and he is approaching the campaign as if it was a war. Williamson may prefer Trump be gentle and PC, but that isn't the way he does things. He can make peace later after the enemy has been defeated. His approach attracts a lot of people who finally see a champion who will fight for them. And if my own attitude is representative, nothing is going to change our minds about going all out to support him - unless he betrays us, and then we stay home and let it burn.

Posted by: despair at January 25, 2016 05:49 AM (VrdxH)

389 231 We went over this yesterday. Ryan was in charge of budgets since 2011 and before that was Ways and Means.

You have that backwards. Ryan chaired the House Budget Committee from 2010-2014 and Ways and Means from 2014-2015. Dr. Tom Price was selected to succeed Ryan at Budget in November 2014.

11/4/2010: "New budget chair Ryan brings new agenda"- bit.ly/1Pw5IGq

10/28/14: "Paul Ryan Poised to Seize Ways and Means Prize"- bloom.bg/1wHtWTS

11/19/14: "Price Elected Chairman of House Budget Committee"- 1.usa.gov/23o5DbU

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at January 25, 2016 05:50 AM (YjDyJ)

390 Did Cruz really say this??? "We will carpet bomb ISIS into oblivion. I don't know if sand can glow in the dark, but we're going to find out", Ted Cruz said at the Rising Tide Summit in Cedar Rapids. If so, who do I call if it lasts more than four hours??

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 25, 2016 05:50 AM (fWAjv)

391 What does Trump's statement say about his supporters if he thinks he could commit murder and they would still support him? Posted by: andycanuck at January 25, 2016 10:49 AM (DLIIY) Oh please it was tongue in cheek..get a sense of humor

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 05:51 AM (kzdjp)

392 Williamson may prefer Trump be gentle and PC, but that isn't the way he does things. ---------- That is not KW's argument against Trump. His argument against Trump is that Trump is a liberal. You can disagree with that, but it is not a tough position to take based on Trump's past actions and words. Maybe he has completely changed. Conversion is great.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 05:51 AM (gmeXX)

393 Without Trump , Cruz would have been able to state his case against those arrows. That's his forte. Now his logical arguments and defense of conservatism is just background noise to Trump's populist crude rhetoric.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 25, 2016 10:37 AM (ziriD)

Are you suggesting that if Ted Cruz doesn't win the Republican nomination on his conservative merits, that Trump will be responsible?






Posted by: cind at January 25, 2016 05:53 AM (nRbbW)

394 >>Nothing in that link shows any concrete change in results. The only thing there are words and promises that are more a critique of process than anything. Words are nice. Results matter. Yea, the do. But you do understand that it is January of 2016 right? Google for yourself. Ryan has been on record consistently trashing the omnibus process which meant a handful of people would negotiate everything and individual committees did squat and promising that he would reverse the process and give the individual committees the ability to put forth their own spending bills. This is the process he is starting for all new spending. The omnibus process is what pissed off guys in the Freedom Caucus and ultimately caused the revolt against Boehner. The House was essentially being run by a handful of Boehner cronies and individual members claimed they were not being heard or their wishes acted on. The Freedom Caucus supported Ryan and his commitment to regular order. In fact, that is why they supported him. If it's good enough for the most conservative members of the House I'm willing to wait and see if Ryan fully implements what he promised to do.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 05:53 AM (Hxh2/)

395 Donald Trump telling supporters in Iowa today that he could literally walk down Fifth Avenue in New York with guns blazing,"shoot somebody" and "wouldn't lose voters," [...] What does Trump's statement say about his supporters if he thinks he could commit murder and they would still support him? Is he shooting yankees?

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 25, 2016 05:53 AM (VDCWC)

396 Posted by: rickb223 at January 25, 2016 10:43 AM (VDCWC) You live in Texas right? I'm sure you were familiar with his Senate run. He was anything but anal.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 25, 2016 05:53 AM (ziriD)

397 I'm not sure if logic his way out is the right phrasing. But I don't worry about media (establishment) smear jobs on Cruz. He has shown an ability to defend himself quite capably. Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 10:47 AM (gmeXX) ----------- I think too much is made of Cruz's debate skills. There is only limited use for them in a campaign. Actually just saying unfettered immigration is hurting us and Hilary is a criminal harpy poopyhead is enough for 90%+ people out there.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 05:53 AM (LXJ1e)

398 Two female victims were wounded in a stabbing attack that took place on Monday afternoon near Beit Horon, located to the northwest of Jerusalem in Samaria's Binyamin district. The two terrorists who conducted the attack, in which one victim was critically wounded and another moderately wounded, were neutralized by a security guard and later died of their wounds. An improvised explosive was found shortly afterwards adjacent to the scene of the attack by security forces. A police bomb-squad member was rushed to the scene to dismantle the explosive, and residents were asked to stay indoors. But Jewish carpenters are to blame according to kerry and Fredo

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 05:53 AM (kzdjp)

399 Oh please it was tongue in cheek... get a sense of humor I'm quoting an anti-Trump dick, Nevergiveup, thus the italicized text, not agreeing with him or stating my opinion. Blame the lack of blockquote! Along the same lines I wonder when the Trump quote will be morphed into "Trump says he could rape a woman in the middle of the street and not lose votes over it"?

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at January 25, 2016 05:53 AM (DLIIY)

400 RWC, Cruz did say that, or something very similar.

Posted by: Carol at January 25, 2016 05:53 AM (sj3Ax)

401 It's 2008 all over again.

Posted by: Arson Wells at January 25, 2016 05:54 AM (UnJ7w)

402 I think too much is made of Cruz's debate skills. There is only limited use for them in a campaign. ---------- I wasn't referring to his debate skills. Some politicians have an ability to deflect media attacks better than others. Cruz seems capable of doing it. FWIW - so does Trump. Though they both have different styles.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 05:55 AM (gmeXX)

403 Vote for Trump and all your dreams will come true.

Posted by: Napoleon Dynamite at January 25, 2016 05:55 AM (UnJ7w)

404 You live in Texas right? I'm sure you were familiar with his Senate run. He was anything but anal. And the national media wasn't out to keep him out of national office. Huge difference.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 25, 2016 05:56 AM (VDCWC)

405 344 Well in that sense Cruz is just like Obama, expect the same results.

Trump is far more like the SCOAMF than Cruz ever was with regards to temperament, policy preferences, and cult of personality. Furthermore, Cruz is a conservative while Trump and the SCOAMF are not.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at January 25, 2016 05:56 AM (YjDyJ)

406 The Freedom Caucus supported Ryan and his commitment to regular order. In fact, that is why they supported him. If it's good enough for the most conservative members of the House I'm willing to wait and see if Ryan fully implements what he promised to do. Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 10:53 AM (Hxh2/) Yeah but I believe they were taken and gave up because they were tired and brow beaten. I don't trust him. But he is the Majority Leader so we will see, but his attack on Trump was WAY WAY out of line

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 05:57 AM (kzdjp)

407 But "Vote for Cruz and all your dreams will come true" is real? BTW the three main anti-Trump Cruz-supporters at Insty's really do sound like that.

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at January 25, 2016 05:57 AM (DLIIY)

408 Along the same lines I wonder when the Trump quote will be morphed into "Trump says he could rape a woman in the middle of the street and not lose votes over it"? I'm pretty sure that's already happened. The MFM is good at playing "the telephone game" all by themselves, alone.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy[/b][/s][/u][/i] at January 25, 2016 05:57 AM (LUgeY)

409 Ryan has been disappointing in a lot of ways but the omnibus was all Boehner's process

Horseshit on steroids, the only thing forcing these clowns to weasel is their genes.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 25, 2016 05:58 AM (DL2i+)

410 Women manage the home better than men do. So what are they saying? A woman's place is in the home? While we discuss this, hey Honey, how 'bout you getting me another cup of coffee?

Posted by: Diogenes at January 25, 2016 05:58 AM (r65B3)

411 Fake but accurate, Backwards Boy.

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at January 25, 2016 05:58 AM (DLIIY)

412 >>>> I think too much is made of Cruz's debate skills. There is only limited use for them in a campaign. ----- I don't know about that. I thought Cruz got the better of Trump in the last debate. He came into that one well prepared for every possible attack Trump could make against him. He helped himself a lot with that debate and started pulling ahead in Iowa after it.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 25, 2016 05:59 AM (2x3L+)

413 But "Vote for Cruz and all your dreams will come true" is real? --------- No, I simply think Cruz has more potential to make significant changes in DC and within the GOP than Trump.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 05:59 AM (gmeXX)

414 @391 You tried peddling this garbage on Saturday. Paul Ryan was Budget committee chairman in 2013, he was ways and means chairman in 2014, he was speaker of the House in 2015 so that means he was and is one powerful and influential fucking dude, NO? So don't give me this garbage that he is some innocent babe swept up in the uncontrollable currents of Washington sausage making. So take your shillary and stick it where the sun don't shine sister!

Posted by: Kreplach at January 25, 2016 05:59 AM (9XuqE)

415 Who's causing all the trouble in the world? Ghost Ninja. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPXfj4OmNRA[/youtube

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 25, 2016 05:59 AM (Nwg0u)

416 Could you possibly make your case FOR Trump without bashing Cruz? Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 25, 2016 10:43 AM (w4NZ -------- I did post a list of policies offered by Trump on post #307.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 06:00 AM (LXJ1e)

417 It's 2008 all over again. Posted by: Arson Wells at January 25, 2016 10:54 AM (UnJ7w) In terms of the GOP having pushed heavily for treasonous aid and comfort to invading illegals and making a pariah of themselves, yes, it is.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 25, 2016 06:00 AM (zc3Db)

418 >> "Trump says he could rape a woman in the middle of the >> street and not lose votes over it"? That turns into 'TRUMP IS A MUSLIM HE RAPED FIFTY WOMEN IN COLOGNE' in about five minutes, right?

Posted by: JEM at January 25, 2016 06:00 AM (o+SC1)

419 since Donald lacks principles, he's off the list. Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:16 AM (lVU49) The only principle demanded of a hand grenade is that it go "Bang!" three seconds after the spoon is released.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 25, 2016 06:00 AM (Z8fuk)

420 >> That turns into 'TRUMP IS A MUSLIM HE RAPED FIFTY >> WOMEN IN COLOGNE' in about five minutes, right? Oh wait, he's an "asylum seeker" we can't say anything bad about the Mohammedans...

Posted by: JEM at January 25, 2016 06:01 AM (o+SC1)

421 234 Sabo strikes again. http://tinyurl.com/zmxd97g Conservative Artist Sabo SERIOUSLY Crashed Bernie Sanders' Art Expo in LA Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 25, 2016 10:02 AM (fWAjv) I love that guy (no homo).

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 25, 2016 06:01 AM (kpqmD)

422 Posted by: rickb223 at January 25, 2016 10:56 AM (VDCWC Why would Cruz act different than how he acted after a full scale attack by the Left and GOP establishment in his Senate race?You allege he would get anal if he was attacked now. There is no evidence of that but in fact evidence contrary to that.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 25, 2016 06:02 AM (ziriD)

423 >> The only principle demanded of a hand grenade is that it go >> "Bang!" three seconds after the spoon is released. Preferably not two, and definitely not one.

Posted by: JEM at January 25, 2016 06:02 AM (o+SC1)

424 I still don understand why we let them run a liberal State like Iowa first. Posted by: Vic-we have no party The thinking is that if they take it away, Iowa will be so offended, they'll purposely vote Democrat to spite the GOP, despite the fact that they usually do anyway. So we have to keep giving them "first state" status and shovel billions of crop subsidies all for a blue state. That's the Stupid Party for you.

Posted by: Tobasco at January 25, 2016 06:02 AM (L0GXf)

425 quite wealthy globalists at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland say it doesn't matter who the R's nominate. They are guaranteeing a Hillary victory. Elections. How quaint. Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at January 25, 2016 10:43 AM (AJeMv) ------------------------ This is why I get a little scared at times. Do they know something? God knows, some pretty nasty people gave the Clintons big bucks in exchange for favors that would supposedly pay off once Hillary was prez. I bet those people could break a few thumbs, change a few minds, make a few things happen. Think of the Chinese holding 18 million records on federal employees.

Posted by: iforgot at January 25, 2016 06:03 AM (pC96u)

426 396 The Freedom Caucus supported Ryan and his commitment to regular order. In fact, that is why they supported him. If it's good enough for the most conservative members of the House I'm willing to wait and see if Ryan fully implements what he promised to do.

Dr. Price has already started crafting the FY 2017 budget.

"US Hill Turns Eyes to House Budget Chief for New GOP Budget"- bit.ly/1Sf0hun

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at January 25, 2016 06:04 AM (YjDyJ)

427 No, I simply think Cruz has more potential to make significant changes in DC and within the GOP than Trump. Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 10:59 AM (gmeXX) ------------ That's where we disagree.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 06:04 AM (LXJ1e)

428 zerohedge link

http://preview.tinyurl.com/htc36tl

I'm curious who the Donbass news agency they source on this. Because it kind of looks like the US government was preparing a biological WMD for use against Russia in a form that wouldn't be recognized as such, and I'd like to know if this is just the facts (which is worse) or something the Russians want out there.

Posted by: Methos at January 25, 2016 06:04 AM (ZbV+0)

429 Already cases of Zika virus in NYC and Hawaii. Thanks to Obama's open borders/DHS illegal immigrant escort to US city of choice policy we are so very screwed health-wise. Same goes for Europe, where they're seeing all sorts of nasty diseases that had been eradicated showing up again. These bleeding heart Lefties are freakin' idiots - any normal person could have seen this coming. Posted by: Lizzy at January 25, 2016 09:16 AM (NOIQH) Zika virus is spread by the Aedes mosquito, as are some other mosquito-borne illnesses. No evidence of direct transmission between humans. It has been known since the 1940's, according to the story. Control mosquitoes, control the virus. Same as malaria.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 25, 2016 06:04 AM (Z8fuk)

430 It was too late to do individual spending bills
process

These are EXCUSES.

I'm pretty sure I could split a .docx into per department pieces in a day.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 25, 2016 06:04 AM (DL2i+)

431 Dr. Price has already started crafting the FY 2017 budget. "US Hill Turns Eyes to House Budget Chief for New GOP Budget"- bit.ly/1Sf0hun Posted by: Miss80sBaby at January 25, 2016 11:04 AM (YjDyJ) ---------- Of course, they already locked in Obama level spending with the most recent deal.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 06:05 AM (LXJ1e)

432 What I think is happening throughout this election campaign so far is that a new party is being formed. We're just seeing a difficult birth, as we know it would be. It just remains to be seen who will occupy the new party and who will occupy the old one. Very interesting

Posted by: Soona at January 25, 2016 06:05 AM (Fmupd)

433 It was too late to do individual spending bills process These are EXCUSES. I'm pretty sure I could split a .docx into per department pieces in a day. Posted by: DaveA at January 25, 2016 11:04 AM (DL2i+) ----------- I'll point out that the GOP had the House since Jan 2011. There was never any "too late".

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 06:07 AM (LXJ1e)

434 Fake but accurate, Backwards Boy. Posted by: andycanuck at January 25, 2016 10:58 AM (DLIIY) Yep, but only inside their little pea brains. And in keeping with my goal of appropriating old '60's protest songs for use by us modern conservatives, I offer up this gem: Johann Lennon's Gimme Some Truth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orz9-85Fr14

Posted by: BackwardsBoy[/b][/s][/u][/i] at January 25, 2016 06:07 AM (LUgeY)

435 with Fredo in the White HOuse the ONLY weapon the Republicans have is to shut the Government down to force the Dems and Fredo to bend to at least some of our concerns. Unless you are willing to do that, you are just farting in the wind. and RYAN is NOT wiling to do that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 06:07 AM (kzdjp)

436 That's where we disagree. ------------ I suspect so. You keep making your case and I'll keep making mine - until the primary indicates that one of us no longer needs to make such case.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 06:07 AM (gmeXX)

437 "The Freedom Caucus supported Ryan and his commitment to regular order. In fact, that is why they supported him."

They got rolled. Ryan's commitments aren't durable.

Ryan is the guy who after pushing open-borders globalism for many years suddenly remade himself into an advocate of "self-deportation" to comport with the Romney 2012 ticket, and then just as suddenly returned to being an amnesty shill after that ticket flamed out.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ot5n7ls

Posted by: torquewrench at January 25, 2016 06:08 AM (noWW6)

438 There are numerous free ad block programs. If you chose not to use them, stop bitching. It's tiring.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 25, 2016 06:08 AM (iQIUe)

439 One more football game. At least there is still basketball.

Posted by: Arson Wells at January 25, 2016 06:08 AM (UnJ7w)

440 416 391 Paul Ryan was Budget committee chairman in 2013, he was ways and means chairman in 2014, he was speaker of the House in 2015 so that means he was and is one powerful and influential fucking dude, NO?

Not necessarily. You forget that Boehner ran the House in such a way that he did consult his committee chairs as much as he should. In fact, Dr. Price did not have much of a say in last year's budget deal (Boehner's final act as Speaker), and he was/is the House Budget Committee chairman.


Posted by: Miss80sBaby at January 25, 2016 06:09 AM (YjDyJ)

441 Is this going to be another day where the denizens of AoShq are ignored and left to their own devices? And where is rdbrewer? He's been MIA.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 25, 2016 06:09 AM (iQIUe)

442 >> The only principle demanded of a hand grenade is that it go >> "Bang!" three seconds after the spoon is released. Preferably not two, and definitely not one. Five is right out...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 25, 2016 06:10 AM (9krrF)

443 Enough bullshit about who controlled what committees. We controlled both Houses and we got rick rolled and everyone, and that means EVERYONE, in Leadership is to blame.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 06:11 AM (kzdjp)

444 Paul Ryan is an amnesty loving shill as much as Obama is. He even parroted Obamas "that's not who we are and those aren't our values" line to attack Trump. Screw him. He is a complete phony. He isn't willing to do anything to defund PP. PP even praised him. Pro life fraud too. Screw him. He is just awful.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 25, 2016 06:11 AM (2x3L+)

445 The Freedom Caucus supported Ryan and his commitment to regular order. In fact, that is why they supported him. Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 10:53 AM (Hxh2/) The Freedom Carcass is a POS but, even so, Ryan failed to get the endorsement from them.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 25, 2016 06:12 AM (zc3Db)

446 >>They got rolled. Ryan's commitments aren't durable. No point in arguing about it. We will see soon enough whether he keeps the single most important and public commitment he made when taking the job.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 06:12 AM (Hxh2/)

447 I'm listening to AoSHQ podcast from January 15, the one that's debate recap. I've fallen behind in listening to the podcasts.

Posted by: Carol at January 25, 2016 06:12 AM (sj3Ax)

448 393 What does Trump's statement say about his supporters if he thinks he could commit murder and they would still support him? Posted by: andycanuck at January 25, 2016 10:49 AM (DLIIY) He's setting up some talking head for a nasty case of whiplash. "Sure I have supporters that would still support me if I'd murdered someone. But I haven't. Hillary Clinton *has* committed a felony, just as serious as murder. Now where's your anger at her supporters? Where's your anger at her?" At least, that's what he'd say if he could speak English above a 4th grade level.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 25, 2016 06:13 AM (xuouz)

449 Why would Cruz act different than how he acted after a full scale attack by the Left and GOP establishment in his Senate race?You allege he would get anal if he was attacked now. He would be ass raped by the MSM. They don't want him. Think Palin. Who did the media destroy? Palin or McCain? Why? Because #1, McCain was ineffective and a useless pos, & #2, Palin scared the shit out of them. What has upset their SOP, is that Trump isn't pulling a McCain. Trump rocked them. They haven't regrouped enough to go after anyone yet, and until they can knock Trump off, they won't. But it's a safe bet, that if Trump wasn't there, they would be reaming Cruz at every chance.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 25, 2016 06:13 AM (VDCWC)

450 No point in arguing about it. We will see soon enough whether he keeps the single most important and public commitment he made when taking the job. ---------- I'm just happy there has been a generational change. My generation may govern no better ... but we can't be worse. Its another reason I support Cruz over Trump. I'm ready to move on from Boomer led government.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 06:14 AM (gmeXX)

451 445 Enough bullshit about who controlled what committees. We controlled both Houses and we got rick rolled and everyone, and that means EVERYONE, in Leadership is to blame. Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 11:11 AM (kzdjp) ----------- This is 80'sbaby smoke and mirrors. Did she say one bad word about Boehner during his 4 years speakeship about not keeping his regular order promise?

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 06:15 AM (LXJ1e)

452 "In a nutshell, quite wealthy globalists at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland say it doesn't matter who the R's nominate. They are guaranteeing a Hillary victory."

I'm not a Trumpkin. I don't have any dog in the hunt.

But I can see the appeal to many of causing the Davosoise to shit down their own legs by presenting them with an uncontrolled outsider as President.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 25, 2016 06:16 AM (noWW6)

453 But it's a safe bet, that if Trump wasn't there, they would be reaming Cruz at every chance. ----------- No doubt. But you assume Cruz would fare as well as Palin did. I do not share that assumption. Cruz is better prepared to beat that back than Palin was.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 06:16 AM (gmeXX)

454 Academy members react to black protests on Oscars - Knee jerk liberalism. - What?! There are liberals in Moonbat Central? The Hollywood addict pervert community is liberal? Well, I'll be go to hell.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 25, 2016 06:16 AM (Nwg0u)

455 @442 I know you're a paid flack but just stop it you're embarrassing yourself. Bottom line is Paul Ryan is an asshole, fraud and a Charlatan. He should be primaried with a David Brat type and should the challenge fail, his democrat opponent should be given all of the support possible to win. These pukes must suffer defeats for their serial lying and treasonous collusion with our enemies.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 25, 2016 06:16 AM (9XuqE)

456 with Fredo in the White HOuse the ONLY weapon the Republicans have is to shut the Government down to force the Dems and Fredo to bend to at least some of our concerns. Unless you are willing to do that, you are just farting in the wind. and RYAN is NOT wiling to do that. They could've funded everything except Planned Infanticide, then sent it to TFP and said, "We funded everything the preezy wanted with the exception of Planned Parenthood. The American people told us in no uncertain terms that they didn't want their tax money funding abortion. The president has indicated that he'll veto this budget. Perhaps he'll explain to America why he refuses to listen to the people and why he feels abortion is so important to him that he's willing to shut down the government." But they cannot even make that simple argument. #WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy[/b][/s][/u][/i] at January 25, 2016 06:16 AM (LUgeY)

457 You fvcked up. You trusted us. - National Review

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 25, 2016 06:17 AM (Nwg0u)

458 But it's a safe bet, that if Trump wasn't there, they would be reaming Cruz at every chance. Posted by: rickb223 at January 25, 2016 11:13 AM (VDCWC) --------------- Without Trump, Cruz would be at 10% max.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 06:18 AM (LXJ1e)

459 307 6) Wants to ban funding to Planned Parenthood and stop abortions except for rape, incest or life of mother ------------------------------------------------------- I don't believe this. DJT has been a life-long abortion supporter, up until announcing his public changing of mind in 2011. I suspect he, like most politicians in the GOPe, is playing it safe here and has zero intention of spending any political capital at all changing the law. Moving on: Trump is pro-bailouts by the Federal government of private business. Trump is hugely pro-Federal Reserve and all actions the Fed has taken under Obama. Trump is pro-ObamaCare and just last week announced on Fox that he wants to expand the program (though he is coming out soon with a formal policy proposal). Trump is pro-EPA, pro-Eminent Domain, pro-Omnibus spending bills.... It is difficult to find a policy area where Trump and the GOPe disagree, other than on immigration and border security. In fact, it's kind of hard to find any areas of disagreement, other than immigration, that Trump has with Democrats.

Posted by: MTF at January 25, 2016 06:18 AM (TxJGV)

460 No doubt. But you assume Cruz would fare as well as Palin did. I do not share that assumption. Cruz is better prepared to beat that back than Palin was. Srsly? Romney didn't/couldn't. And he's had WAY more experience than Cruz.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 25, 2016 06:18 AM (VDCWC)

461 So, the evidence for how great Ryan and other GOP folks are is their weakness, helplessness, and lack of will. Got it.

Posted by: eman at January 25, 2016 06:18 AM (MQEz6)

462 Actually there have. Trump was just loud and crude about it. Krikorian at NR (oh em gee!) has been absolutely incessant about border security and building a wall. Posted by: chemjeff at January 25, 2016 09:31 AM (lVU49) Krikorian, krikorian? And his name is on the ballot,...where? On the ballot, where it counts, Donald Trump, love him or hate him, is the only guy who seems to be serious about stopping illegal immigration. The others are all either full-on open borders or amnesty squishes, or have recently and unconvincingly converted to closed-borders. For those to whom border secirity is an existential issue, there is only one rational choice.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 25, 2016 06:19 AM (Z8fuk)

463 If I wasn't poor, I would be sending nice microphones to the podcasters. How would that work? They talk on skype, but record their end, and then merge the sound files together?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 25, 2016 06:19 AM (VdICR)

464 Funny how Trump supporters are always complaining about being "talked down to."  They seem especially sensitive to it.  I guess it has happened a lot in their lives.

Posted by: Trump Trap at January 25, 2016 06:19 AM (Y8P5w)

465 >>Srsly? Romney didn't/couldn't. And he's had WAY more experience than Cruz. Cruz is willing to be a jerk. Salon told me so, as if that were a *bad* thing.

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 06:20 AM (NOIQH)

466 But they cannot even make that simple argument.
---
It's too important to prove that they can govern to do that.

And by govern, they of course mean "Do the exact same shit as the democrats"

Posted by: Methos at January 25, 2016 06:20 AM (ZbV+0)

467 So Paul Ryan is a powerless, innocent dupe and John Boehner is the source of all the GOPe dumbfuckery? Got it.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 25, 2016 06:20 AM (2x3L+)

468 Posted by: rickb223 at January 25, 2016 11:13 AM (VDCWC) Again I'm not saying they wouldn't be savagely attacking Cruz. I'm saying I disagree with your opinion on how Cruz would handle it.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 25, 2016 06:20 AM (ziriD)

469 446 ...He isn't willing to do anything to defund PP. PP even praised him. Pro life fraud too. Screw him. He is just awful.

The House passed the budget reconciliation bill that repeals ObamaCare and defunds Planned Parenthood on January 6th. Furthermore, Planned Parenthood blasted Ryan for inviting the Little Sisters of the Poor to the SOTU. He also supported this year's March for Life, as he does every year.

1/6/2016: "House sends president a bill to repeal Obamacare, defund Planned Parenthood"- usat.ly/1ZOrLtr

Roll call: 1.usa.gov/1PNBby7

LifeNews: "Planned Parenthood Slams Speaker Ryan Inviting Catholic Nuns to SOTU. That's 'Disrespect'"- bit.ly/1WKk71d

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at January 25, 2016 06:21 AM (YjDyJ)

470 Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 10:23 AM (LXJ1e) As I recall, Trump was "nudged" into correcting his statements on some of these issues, e.g., planned parenthood. And I'm sure, as every candidate does, he has educated himself on some of the topics you've mentioned; I'm sure he had no idea what common core is, for instance. He understands some of the economic issues, but I don't think he is a serious, deep thinker. Plus, he is becoming more reckless with idiotic statements. Trump was my F-you vote, but I'm pulling farther and farther away from him. It's fine to appeal to people in with fantastic sound bites, but there has to be more that that, at least for me anyway.

Posted by: Joanne at January 25, 2016 06:21 AM (hgBpU)

471 That sidebar Daily Caller article is brutal against NR. And, yes, I do believe that the talking heads are fearing for their jobs if Trump wins.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 06:21 AM (LXJ1e)

472 Things I have learned this thread: The Weeping Boner passed everything he wanted through the House all with nothing but his lonesome, single vote (and dems). The Weeping Boner was re-elected twice by the douchebags in the Vichy GOP House but they bear no responsibility for anything the Weeping Boner did all by his lonesome - and that includes Paul Ryan, who had nothing to do with anything. Evidently, Paul Ryan was beaten and tortured into voting for the Weeping Boner and being part of his leadershit team ... but he never had a hand on anything. Paul Ryan had no say in what the Weeping Boner did for him (giving it to America up the poop-chute) right before he stepped down from the Weepership. Ryan had no input into that, at all. Nothing. The Weeping Boner was going to give Ryan a gift on his way out, whether Ryan wanted it or not. ANd Ryan voted for that gift because he was beaten and tortured into it. Have I got that all correct?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 25, 2016 06:21 AM (zc3Db)

473 If you want to enshrine our current practice of electing a new dictator every four years then by all means elect a guy on a "get things done" platform. Chips: fall where you may.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at January 25, 2016 06:21 AM (k8tEg)

474 Posted by: Trump Trap at January 25, 2016 11:19 AM (Y8P5w) Yes; The Anti Trump trolls have migrated over from some other site apparently.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 25, 2016 06:22 AM (w4NZ8)

475 The House passed the budget reconciliation bill that repeals ObamaCare and defunds Planned Parenthood on January 6th. Posted by: Miss80sBaby at January 25, 2016 11:21 AM (YjDyJ) LOL. What a friggin joke that was. Go sell crazy somewhere else.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 25, 2016 06:22 AM (zc3Db)

476 Plus, he is becoming more reckless with idiotic statements. Trump was my F-you vote, but I'm pulling farther and farther away from him. ----------- This will be the challenge for Trump. Are people really going to vote for him, as opposed to simply supporting him in the polls. Thankfully we will find out soon.

Posted by: SH at January 25, 2016 06:23 AM (gmeXX)

477 Newd Ace.

Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at January 25, 2016 06:23 AM (eEBON)

478 >>Have I got that all correct? No. But what I have learned is that facts don't matter much anymore, just rage. Which is why we have Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 06:23 AM (Hxh2/)

479 "Odd that the two biggest politicians in TX didn't really know each other. " Well Perry had supported his Lt. Gov when he ran for Senate so they weren't exactly working together. As much as I wasn't a huge fan of Dewhurst, I couldn't really fault Perry for standing by him. Glad to see he's seen the light about Cruz now.

Posted by: Lauren at January 25, 2016 06:23 AM (Kqit+)

480 More on Zika virus: The virus is already present in 21 of the 55 countries and territories across the Americas, the WHO said in a statement Sunday. But it stressed that the Aedes aegypti mosquito, which carries Zika and also dengue and chikungunya viruses, is already present in all countries in the Americas besides Canada and Chile. WHO pointed out that since people in the region had not been exposed to Zika before it emerged in Brazil last May they lacked immunity, allowing the virus to spread quickly. Awesome!

Posted by: Lizzy [/i] at January 25, 2016 06:23 AM (NOIQH)

481 The older I get the more the dumb asses irritate the shit out of me. Whether they are out on the road, on the TV or out in pub-lick I just don't have the tolerance anymore.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at January 25, 2016 06:23 AM (bpqG7)

482 Posted by: Miss80sBaby at January 25, 2016 11:21 AM (YjDyJ) Jesus your like a bad broken record, shoveling that shit about passing bills AFTER they gave Fredo everything he wanted AND the money to fund it. Get a new shtick or get lost

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 25, 2016 06:24 AM (kzdjp)

483 As I recall, Trump was "nudged" into correcting his statements on some of these issues, e.g., planned parenthood. And I'm sure, as every candidate does, he has educated himself on some of the topics you've mentioned; I'm sure he had no idea what common core is, for instance. He understands some of the economic issues, but I don't think he is a serious, deep thinker. Plus, he is becoming more reckless with idiotic statements. Trump was my F-you vote, but I'm pulling farther and farther away from him. It's fine to appeal to people in with fantastic sound bites, but there has to be more that that, at least for me anyway. Posted by: Joanne at January 25, 2016 11:21 AM (hgBpU) ---------------- I don't think he is a deep thinker either. However, if he believes Common Core is stupid and wrong, more power to him, however he came to that position.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 06:24 AM (LXJ1e)

484 Under its new and cynically misnamed "HomeReady" programme, borrowers with subprime credit don't need to show that they have enough income to qualify for the mortgage they're after - So capitalism is failing again.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 25, 2016 06:24 AM (Nwg0u)

485 Trump may change his opinions all the time depending on how the wind is blowing but I am absolutely sure that he is serious about deporting millions of illegal aliens and building a wall and making Mexico pay for it because there is no way a guy who changes his opinions all the time depending on how the wind is blowing would tell me what I want to hear just to earn my vote and then change his mind again later oh and stop talking down to me like I'm stupid I hate it when people do that and they do it all the time drives me absolutely crazy.

Posted by: Double Wide Debbie at January 25, 2016 06:24 AM (Y8P5w)

486 No. But what I have learned is that facts don't matter much anymore, just rage. Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 11:23 AM (Hxh2/) LOL.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 25, 2016 06:24 AM (zc3Db)

487 I still say that I will gladly vote for Trump or Cruz in the general.

Posted by: Soona at January 25, 2016 06:24 AM (Fmupd)

488 quite wealthy globalists at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland say it doesn't matter who the R's nominate. They are guaranteeing a Hillary victory. Elections. How quaint. Posted by: Dead Parrot Society The Republicans are guaranteeing it or the Davos boys are guaranteeing it?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 25, 2016 06:24 AM (FkBIv)

489 >>>>> I don't believe this. DJT has been a life-long abortion supporter, up until announcing his public changing of mind in 2011. I suspect he, like most politicians in the GOPe, is playing it safe here and has zero intention of spending any political capital at all changing the law. ------ I used to be a single issue voter based on the issue of life, but I have become much more cynical and realistic and do not think Congress or the POTUS will ever do anything significant to help the cause. Even if they did miraculously find the balls to pass some legislation, SCOTUS will overturn it. Regarding Trump, I think he may be sincerely prolife. He wrote a really good piece for the Washington Examiner on the day of the March for Life. It was well written and seemed heartfelt, but who really knows in the end.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 25, 2016 06:25 AM (2x3L+)

490 Surprised there's been relatively little comment on Jeb! using his massive money resources to take out Rubio instead of Trump. This dunderheaded decision says an awful lot about Jeb! None of it good.

Posted by: V the K at January 25, 2016 06:25 AM (O7MnT)

491 289 This is where we are headed.
http://tinyurl.com/zst9x2v
Leftists, Communists, Open Borders radicals protested Sunday in Calais.
The mob then stormed a British Ferry docked at the port.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 25, 2016 10:18 AM
~~~~
Holy crap.  That video is infuriating.  I don't know how that guy didn't just start shooting the whole lot of them. 

Posted by: IrishEi at January 25, 2016 06:26 AM (E6RIJ)

492 The House passed the budget reconciliation bill that repeals ObamaCare and defunds Planned Parenthood on January 6th. Posted by: Miss80sBaby at January 25, 2016 11:21 AM (YjDyJ) ---------------- Just weeks after fully funding both.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 06:26 AM (LXJ1e)

493 Cruz/Clark (Sheriff) Constitutional conservative + law and order ticket in a time of civil unrest (think 1968 redux) + dilute African American bloc voting + groom "outsider" /next Constitutional conservative to be successor by giving "Washington experience"

Posted by: xnycpeasant at January 25, 2016 06:27 AM (k8tEg)

494 I think what Trump meant is be could stand in the lobby of National Review and shoot people and not lose any voters.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 25, 2016 06:27 AM (Nwg0u)

495 453 445 This is 80'sbaby smoke and mirrors. Did she say one bad word about Boehner during his 4 years speakeship about not keeping his regular order promise?

I criticized Boehner for a number of things, especially his leadership style. Furthermore, your statement in this very post shows that you believe Boehner was responsible for failing to keep regular order. While I place some of the blame on Boehner, the problem has been and continues to be the Senate. That is why I have endorsed limited filibuster reform. 

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at January 25, 2016 06:27 AM (YjDyJ)

496 Any remember way back to 2010 when the gopE promised to cut 100 Billion out of the budget? Anyone remeber how much was actually cut? Hmmm IIRC a lone cut of 352 Million was passed. The cost of getting that cut. Again IIRC it was in the ballpark of 6 Billion. The gopE. Working for you since, forever.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and Unimproved. at January 25, 2016 06:27 AM (WVsWD)

497 Surprised there's been relatively little comment on Jeb! using his massive money resources to take out Rubio instead of Trump. This dunderheaded decision says an awful lot about Jeb! None of it good. Posted by: V the K at January 25, 2016 11:25 AM (O7MnT) -------------------- I think the plan is take out Rubio with the PAC money. Have the Establishment take out Cruz and be in the not-Trump position and eventually win out.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 06:28 AM (LXJ1e)

498 Again I'm not saying they wouldn't be savagely attacking Cruz. I'm saying I disagree with your opinion on how Cruz would handle it. I would love to see Cruz turn the tables and ream the media. I just don't see that happening. Trump is different because he's not a politician. He's a media figure used to being in it hip deep.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 25, 2016 06:28 AM (VDCWC)

499 Nood. Ace up early

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 25, 2016 06:29 AM (kKHcp)

500 And by reckless I mean this from the Washington Examiner: "Tone-deaf Trumps touts eminent domain support" http://tinyurl.com/zcdtse3

Posted by: Joanne at January 25, 2016 06:29 AM (hgBpU)

501 It's become increasingly clear to me that "conservative" is a badge of honor for those who have already accepted death. I've been a self-styled conservative all my life, and allowed the firm stance I've always taken on academic questions to stand in for actually living with conviction. We are able to identify problems very well, but I've yet to see anyone articulate a plan for doing something about the decay of marriage and the family, of education, economic liberty, and freedom of speech. It's dire warnings and bitter satire all the way down. I'm stuck between diagnosis and treatment, and have been for my entire life. Either we still have an ability to affect our nation through the electoral process, or the hour is late indeed. This election matters very much for that reason. It's a test. None of this is about the ideas in play, its about the rules of the game. We need to really put the nation through its paces, not sit down for fear of rocking the boat. Our dear lettered conservative friends serve a very important purpose: they're the canary in our coal mine. They've gotten the idea we keep them around for their singing. Now they're trying to teach us the tune, and even some dance moves to go with it. We're a nation of grown men who let newsroom fops tell us what to do. We're a nation of soldiers sitting in a circle indian-style telling the nice trans lady how darling her dress is. We tell our young men that being gay is just as good as being straight, and to masturbate more, and our women they can be men if they want. So yes, the man calling us back to sanity, to reality, seems rough, uncouth, himself insane.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 25, 2016 06:30 AM (xuouz)

502 "3. Set up a separate express court system dedicated to prosecuting federal employees.

Everyone knows Leviathan is rarely held accountable. Why not vow to change that?"

This with quickly morph into another huge govt agency staffed with cronies and union members, a civil rights office and their owns SWAT teams.  And their mission would change to tracking down govt. employees that are  whistler blowers and opponents of gay marriage.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 25, 2016 06:31 AM (1BQGO)

503 I criticized Boehner for a number of things, especially his leadership style. Furthermore, your statement in this very post shows that you believe Boehner was responsible for failing to keep regular order. While I place some of the blame on Boehner, the problem has been and continues to be the Senate. That is why I have endorsed limited filibuster reform. Posted by: Miss80sBaby at January 25, 2016 11:27 AM (YjDyJ) -------------- Nice try, you never once complained that Boehner didn't keep his regular order promise. That isn't "leadership style" that nuts and bolts of how the House works. And by Boehner we all mean him and his leadership. AFAIK, Ryan never once complained.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 06:31 AM (LXJ1e)

504 @480 No the facts are inconvenient for you that's why you wish to deflect. Our supposed "leaders" have failed on every score, have failed on every test, have failed to even listen to reason and have instead doubled down on capitulation and lies. And you presume to lecture us that we are unreasoned into our anger? If I wasn't afraid of being banned I'd really let you know how I feel about yours and miss 80's bullshit.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 25, 2016 06:31 AM (9XuqE)

505 471 Posted by: Miss80sBaby at January 25, 2016 11:21 AM (YjDyJ)
 
Dog and pony show stuff. Stand alone bills that are sure to be vetoed. But when it comes to 'must pass' legislation with actual spending in it, total capitulation, over and over again.

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at January 25, 2016 06:32 AM (gyKtp)

506 Why didn't our GOP talking head, editorial writing "betters" recognize the GOPe's sorry state of affairs before Trump? They facilitated the decay of the Republican Party and are now shocked at what they have wrought!? We've all seen this for a long time coming, and they suddenly only see it now because of Trump? What kind of fukcing brain trust are they? Why didn't they recognize the problem and address it a long time ago? And why do they think that they, a huge part of the present mess, have the moral authority to tell us what is best for us? It's like mom and dad went out, got drunk and crashed the car into the garage door, and then you get in trouble in the morning for showing them the wreckage. What a high horse they ride. Well, FUCK THEM!!!!!

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 25, 2016 06:34 AM (RcpcZ)

507 "Tone-deaf Trumps touts eminent domain support"
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If he uses eminent domain to reclaim the territory occupied by the UN, I wouldn't complain much.

Posted by: Methos at January 25, 2016 06:35 AM (ZbV+0)

508 >>And you presume to lecture us that we are unreasoned into our anger? >>If I wasn't afraid of being banned I'd really let you know how I feel about yours and miss 80's bullshit. I'm not lecturing you at all. I'm pointing out that just because you like to rant and rave you aren't right about everything. You seem to be the one who believes you have all the answers, I'm just disagreeing with some of your positions. Go ahead and tell me how you feel about my bullshit. I could not care less and I promise you won't get banned.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 06:35 AM (Hxh2/)

509 http://tinyurl.com/gu34xck It was too late to do individual spending bills before the end of the year once Ryan took over. That's not shilling, just a fact. ...... For the GOPe there is ALWAYS an excuse. Pineapples, barbed wire and all that.

Posted by: Drill_thrawl at January 25, 2016 06:36 AM (YtbIl)

510 Per the link, Trump will surely not be a solution for GOP incompetence. Hopefully, he can be part of America's cure though. Who needs a solution for the GOP?

Posted by: RioBravo at January 25, 2016 06:37 AM (NUqwG)

511 484 Jesus your like a bad broken record, shoveling that shit about passing bills AFTER they gave Fredo everything he wanted AND the money to fund it. Get a new shtick or get lost

The idea that they gave the SCOAMF everything he wanted is a narrative pushed by talk radio and certain "conservative" outlets for their own purposes. I have previously outlined a number of concessions the Republicans won in the omnibus while simultaneously naming the problems that prevented the deal from being better. Furthermore, the idea that a reconciliation bill is meaningless is absolutely wrong. If they could get the votes to override a veto, the bill would be the law of the land. But the SCOAMF was and is not going to sign a bill repealing what he sees as one of his signature achievements. The idea that he would readily cave was disproved with the last shutdown.   

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at January 25, 2016 06:37 AM (YjDyJ)

512 @508 So if Newton gets hit on the head by an apple and creates calculus, we should honor the apple?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at January 25, 2016 06:38 AM (k8tEg)

513 I will vote for most anybody running against Bernie or Hillary. And hope for a States' Convention.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 25, 2016 06:39 AM (VdICR)

514 But the SCOAMF was and is not going to sign a bill repealing what he sees as one of his signature achievements.
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Then shut down the government until he caves or a legitimate president can be elected.

Posted by: Methos at January 25, 2016 06:40 AM (ZbV+0)

515 @515 Yesssss But if you elect a guy all about "I'll run the Executive Leviathan smarter", particularly after 8 years of government by pen/phone, then you powerfully mis-educate the very electorate you are hoping will vote for limited government Amendments.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at January 25, 2016 06:41 AM (k8tEg)

516 It's amazing that Boehner was able to remain Speaker for so long when the conservative membership was angry at him over policy and the committee chairs and other leadership was angry at him over failure to consult and keep regular order. One suspects that at least one of those isn't really true.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 25, 2016 06:41 AM (nFdGS)

517 @510 I am right, in fact I do have all of the answers. You fight for your supposed principles and policy proscriptions with all of your night and let the chips fall where they may, BUT THEY DIDNT EVEN DO THAT!!! It has been one capitulation after the othe, one excuse after the other for why they couldn't fight. "We're not going to shut down the government!" "We're not going to fight through appropriations" "Impeachment is off the table" "You can't get everything you want in a divided government" These are not my imaginings, these were actual worlds uttered by our leaders. Show me a victory? Show me a win? You can't because there have been none. So please, stop, your're embarrassing yourself.

Posted by: Kreplach at January 25, 2016 06:43 AM (9XuqE)

518 chemjeff Respectfully re your comment around 108 that the idea of free trade was to ship 'bad' jobs like making things out for 'good' jobs When we vote, we are ALL 'talking our book' Here's my book: my spouse keeps getting outsourced, replaced etc by H1B visa holders These are the 'good' jobs jeff These are STEM jobs and Cruz proposed increasing these visas YYYUUUGELY again no offense but working in higher Ed for you H1B visas seem fine your teaching peeps on visas and it butters your bread News - alllll the 11 million!! jobs 'created' since 2007 are LOWpay waitress jobs and/or went to 'immigrants' BigBiz is breaking the back if the MiddleClass TeflonDon will give me a wall and threaten our enemies with force behind those threats If that's all I can get I will take it

Posted by: ginaswo at January 25, 2016 06:43 AM (qxNrP)

519 New thread.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 25, 2016 06:43 AM (VdICR)

520 >>I am right, in fact I do have all of the answers. >>So please, stop, your're embarrassing yourself. Right back at ya, Sparky.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 06:44 AM (Hxh2/)

521 So yes, the man calling us back to sanity, to reality, seems rough, uncouth, himself insane. Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 25, 2016 11:30 AM (xuouz) -------------------------------------------------- No, he sounds like a billionaire GOPe charter member, except for immigration and border security. If that is your one single issue, then he's your guy.

Posted by: MTF at January 25, 2016 06:44 AM (TxJGV)

522 @522 So I'm taking it as a no your're not going to be listing the GOPe victories and wins then?

Posted by: Kreplach at January 25, 2016 06:47 AM (9XuqE)

523 And by reckless I mean this from the Washington Examiner: "Tone-deaf Trumps touts eminent domain support" http://tinyurl.com/zcdtse3 Posted by: Joanne at January 25, 2016 11:29 AM (hgBpU) -------- This election is not going to won or loss on eminent domain.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 06:53 AM (LXJ1e)

524 505 Nice try, you never once complained that Boehner didn't keep his regular order promise. That isn't "leadership style" that nuts and bolts of how the House works.

Blaming Boehner for failing to consult his committee chairmen (his "top-down" approach) is complaining about lack of regular order. When the House is run properly, policy flows from the committees, not from leadership. That said, I do feel that McConnell deserves far more blame than he has received, particularly with the last omnibus. When the Senate Democrats derailed the appropriations process once again, he should and could have done more. 

And by Boehner we all mean him and his leadership. AFAIK, Ryan never once complained.

Actually, Ryan did complain. Moreover, his actions since becoming Speaker- a commitment to regular order and a "down-up" approach, reforming the Steering Committee, and consulting leaders of the various factions within the Conference - show that he disagrees with Boehner's approach.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at January 25, 2016 06:53 AM (YjDyJ)

525 >>So I'm taking it as a no your're not going to be listing the GOPe victories and wins then? Why would I do something as asinine as playing your little game? I never said that I like the job that Republicans have done in Congress the last number of years nor have I bragged about any victories. I merely pointed out that Boehner had set up a process that led to bad outcomes and was despised by actual conservatives in the House, the omnibus process. Ryan has been a critic of this process and the first thing he did was to decentralize power in the House and return to regular order. This is how real spending reform has a chance of happening. It's not a guarantee. Never claimed it was. But reform was never going to happen without it and it does have the support of conservatives in the House. But by all means, tell us how Trump is going to fix everything. That makes complete sense.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 25, 2016 06:55 AM (Hxh2/)

526 508 Why didn't our GOP talking head, editorial writing "betters" recognize the GOPe's sorry state of affairs before Trump? They facilitated the decay of the Republican Party and are now shocked at what they have wrought!? We've all seen this for a long time coming, and they suddenly only see it now because of Trump? What kind of fukcing brain trust are they? Why didn't they recognize the problem and address it a long time ago? And why do they think that they, a huge part of the present mess, have the moral authority to tell us what is best for us? It's like mom and dad went out, got drunk and crashed the car into the garage door, and then you get in trouble in the morning for showing them the wreckage. What a high horse they ride. Well, FUCK THEM!!!!! Posted by: Ed Anger at January 25, 2016 11:34 AM (RcpcZ) ---------------- In some instances these guys have been flapping their jaws and putting pen to paper for 40 years. We've got gay marriage AND funding Planned Parenthood to the tune of $500 million a year. They are useless.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 07:01 AM (LXJ1e)

527 This is the first election ever in which I'm considering voting for anyone other than the Republican for president. My first vote was in 1976. Get off my lawn. I cannot pull the lever for a progressive like Trump who also happens to be of poor character. I see no significant difference between him and Hillary on the issues or in quality of character.

Posted by: stace, Gary Johnson/SMOD 2016 at January 25, 2016 07:02 AM (CoX6k)

528 Blaming Boehner for failing to consult his committee chairmen (his "top-down" approach) is complaining about lack of regular order. ----------------- Failing to consult?! The only way the markup don't make it out of committee or are stopped in the House are by leadership actively curtailing that function, i.e. breaking the rules. I no Ryan didn't complain at least not until Boehner was gone.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 07:04 AM (LXJ1e)

529 "This election is not going to won or loss on eminent domain." It should be. I cannot vote for anyone who praises Kelo.

Posted by: stace, Gary Johnson/SMOD 2016 at January 25, 2016 07:04 AM (CoX6k)

530 In some instances these guys have been flapping their jaws and putting pen to paper for 40 years. Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 12:01 PM (LXJ1e) ---------- Republicans have been electing "true conservatives" to the House and Senate almost exclusively (moderate and liberal Repubs are rare there) since the '90's. True conservatives do not legislate well; they are ineffective. They are good on the 'talking points' in political rags and during campaigns but not so good in action.

Posted by: RioBravo at January 25, 2016 07:07 AM (NUqwG)

531 I don't think he is a deep thinker either. However, if he believes Common Core is stupid and wrong, more power to him, however he came to that position. Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 25, 2016 11:24 AM (LXJ1e) I agree. However, as the field narrows, I would like to see him become more articulate on each issue. Calling Cruz a slimy Goldman-Sachs Canadian will only get him so far.

Posted by: Joanne at January 25, 2016 07:15 AM (hgBpU)

532 "The Speaker sets the House agenda and when he chooses to go the omnibus route instead of doing individual appropriations bills it changes the dynamic of what is possible in the budget process." Except what you term "possible" is more accurately rendered "convenient". Time and time again we have extraordinary awful bills pass, with the excuse given that there's no alternative. Failure theater. You're the Speaker. You claim you don't want the omnibus passed. Your constituents definitely don't want it passed. Don't pass it. Start over with individual appropriations. I don't give a single fuck how hard that is, who it will inconvenience, how much time it takes, or what people who'd never vote for you are going to say on TV. Don't be afraid of them - be afraid of us.

Posted by: GalosGann at January 25, 2016 07:21 AM (WzpqQ)

533 "I would like to see him become more articulate on each issue" He's not there to be "articulate". If we wanted "articulate" we'd get KDW on the ticket. Trump is there to help move along the first part of "burn it down/scatter the stones/salt the earth". Once it's burnt down we can worry about putting it back together again.

Posted by: Russtovich at January 25, 2016 07:27 AM (pFXle)

534 530 The only way the markup don't make it out of committee or are stopped in the House are by leadership actively curtailing that function, i.e. breaking the rules.

Under Boehner, the House regularly passed budgets out of committee but there were always problems with the Senate. My recollection is that, with the exception of Ryan-Murray, all the other budget deals were made by Boehner instead of a budget conference committee. 

I no Ryan didn't complain at least not until Boehner was gone.

"Paul Ryan blasts Boehner over budget deal"- politi.co/1M0204h

"Ryan succeeds Boehner as speaker, seeks to fix 'broken' House"- fxn.ws/1PxEklh

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at January 25, 2016 07:31 AM (YjDyJ)

535 "Tea Party rep: Ryan better to conservatives than Boehner was"

"The relationship with Paul is entirely different than it was with Speaker Boehner," Mulvaney told host John Catsimatidis on "The Cats Roundtable" on New York's AM-970.

"I don't think Speaker Boehner ever understood the Tea Party movement, I don't think he really understood what really happened in 2010, and I don't think he understood that there was this whole wave of members in Congress who are very different than they had been in the past."

Mulvaney praised Ryan's leadership as much more open to hearing from the caucus and more approachable.

He said that in comparison. Boehner was a "very top-down type of manager manager" and a "twentieth century manager in a twenty-first century world."


bit.ly/1KxUvO8

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at January 25, 2016 07:35 AM (YjDyJ)

536 The commenter above is correct... Trump in the race does actually help Cruz....Trump is taking half the media assault. If Trump wasn't in the race Cruz would be getting all negative attention all the time. If Trump and Cruz weren't in the race, Rubio would be getting all the negative attention. If not Rubio, then Bush. If not Bush, then Cristie... It's ALMOST like the media is the propaganda arm of the democrat party. Almost. So, we NEED someone that pushes back against the MEDIA propaganda and cuts straight to the heart of the matter. Not one of "our" candidates is perfect... My opinion is Trump and Cruz do the best at pushing back against media b.s. So I'm fine with either... I'm NOT fine with the avererage GOPe elected official that speaks in the exact same terms as the left--- where they equate illegal immigration with LEGAL immigration and call anyone that wants a secure border an EXTREMIST. I'm so tired of that b.s. that my rage meter goes off the charts everytime I hear it.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at January 25, 2016 07:54 AM (Qj6zv)

537 127 Oregon Muse, should I try and submit to Angry Robot?
Link in post #69.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 26, 2016 10:39 AM (IYg2w)


Ugh, that's not a lot of time.

Can you have a manuscript ready in 4 days?

Posted by: OregonMuse at January 26, 2016 05:44 AM (zgHEY)

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