April 28, 2009

Memo: Feds Knew Air Force Dumb Might Cause Panic; Ordered It Kept Secret Anyway, Threatening "Sanctions" Against Any Who Leaked it to Cops or FBI
— Ace

"To say that it should not be made public knowing that it might scare people it's just confounding," Sen. Charles Schumer said. "It's what gives Washington and government a bad name. It's sheer stupidity."

Posted by: Ace at 11:26 AM | Comments (124)
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1 Fix the link please......before I drop a F-bomb or sumthin....

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at April 28, 2009 11:28 AM (ZPwZl)

2 Fuck.  Linky No Worky

Posted by: Sgt. Rock at April 28, 2009 11:29 AM (cWg6W)

3 Um.... someone might want to take a look at that link (html is wrong)...

Posted by: glenster at April 28, 2009 11:29 AM (wY+MR)

4 My Cocklings.  We were just shooting some promo footage for a special anniversary edition of my hit TV show "Rescue 911".

It's me.

Posted by: Bill Shatner at April 28, 2009 11:29 AM (GtYrq)

5 Ace's HTML skills give the intertubes a bad name.

Posted by: lorien1973 at April 28, 2009 11:31 AM (IhQuA)

6 Chuck Schumer is the worlds formost authority on stupidity.

Posted by: maddogg at April 28, 2009 11:33 AM (OlN4e)

7 I assume Ace meant to use this link off of Drudge.

Posted by: Mćtenloch at April 28, 2009 11:33 AM (z1Jlf)

8 Drudge's pussy ass took down the
Reporters want the manifestÂ… Who was on the plane?

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at April 28, 2009 11:34 AM (5r0Tz)

9 I feex

Posted by: lauraw at April 28, 2009 11:34 AM (nyUrc)

10

Politico is reporting that Biden was the man on the Specter deal.

In a sign of the critical role Biden played in convincing Specter to cross the aisle, the Pennsylvania party-switcher placed his first call this morning not to the president, but to Biden.

Posted by: outraged at April 28, 2009 11:34 AM (penCf)

11 loose shit: the true story of the aosHQ

Posted by: unamerican hate mongering evil libertarian at April 28, 2009 11:35 AM (2J+Vs)

12 Yes, let's put these people in charge of banks, insurance, auto manufacturing and health care.

What coud go wrong?

Posted by: DrewM. at April 28, 2009 11:36 AM (hlYel)

13 You know, I hate to admit it, but old Chuckie is right for once. (shudder)

Posted by: Alex at April 28, 2009 11:36 AM (FkZ+B)

14 It takes a dhimmirat to show what stupid means.

Posted by: Vladmir Putin at April 28, 2009 11:37 AM (0Qynq)

15

Yes, for the first time in recorded history, Chuck Schumer has uttered something that makes sense, and yet he still misses the truth of the matter.  It's Motherfucking Chuck Schumer, and fucking assholes like him who give Washington a bad name.  This clusterfuck with Air Fuck You, I [W]On is the natural result of a government out of control, which is what Fucking Chuckie has been working toward his entire worthless, microphone and cock gargling career.  Asshole!

Oops, did I just type all that out loud?

Posted by: Sharkman at April 28, 2009 11:37 AM (69J41)

16 Before you all jump on Chuckie's bandwagon, the sentence after that (which i saw live and was reported nowhere) was that Bush's political appte "wrecked" the FAA and that is the cause.

fucking idiotic Chuckie, always quick to Blame Bush.

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at April 28, 2009 11:37 AM (5r0Tz)

17 I doubt that it was really $60K an hour for AF1.  Obama's 14 ton ego wasn't on board.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 28, 2009 11:38 AM (ni9Ub)

18

The flyover -- apparently ordered by the White House Office of Military Affairs so it would have souvenir photos of Air Force One with the Statue of Liberty in the background

 

Do they know something we don't know.  Aren't there plenty of pics of The Lady?  Why now? It just doesn't add up.  Has teh chatter increased?  Are they worried about an attack once they release the photos?

Posted by: outraged at April 28, 2009 11:38 AM (penCf)

19 Fuck you.  I won.

Posted by: B.H. Obama at April 28, 2009 11:39 AM (ni9Ub)

20 Upchuck Schumer has a lotta room to talk about what gives government a bad name.

Posted by: maddogg at April 28, 2009 11:39 AM (OlN4e)

21 Can you even begin to imagine the calls for impeachment if this had happened under GWB? It would have been blamed on him personally and there would have been a senate investigation. Scooter Libby would have gotten the rap...or Karl Rove. So will it be Rahm's head on the chopping block now?

Posted by: t.ferg at April 28, 2009 11:39 AM (nF4Jh)

22 I think Obama gets a pass on this one.  It was one of several "Air Force One" aircraft.  I forget how many there are.  If this was a routine photo op flight, I doubt the Air Force would have briefed him on it.

Now if this was a political schmoozer flight with contributors and lobbyists on board, that is a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

But JamieWearingFool seems overwrought:

The idea Obama had no knowledge of what was happening with his own plane is nonsense. It's just not plausible.

He deliberately allowed this to happen. Probably figures those chumps in New York love him so much already that he can just take a dump on them.

Now, where is the manifest for who was on that plane, Mr. Transparency?

Hopefully, he was not being serious.

Posted by: oLD gUY at April 28, 2009 11:40 AM (n1yDn)

23 TOTUS == The 21st Hijacker

Posted by: MikeO at April 28, 2009 11:41 AM (hz67i)

Posted by: muffy at April 28, 2009 11:42 AM (zplc6)

25 21

that's right.  Because it was a leftist douche President scaring other leftist douches in NYC, the MSM has nothing to say.

If it was a right wing Pres scaring leftist douches in NYC, that would be portrayed as the most oppressive, awful, OUT OF TOUCH thing ever done by a President...surely UNTHINKABLE that a President would inflict terror on his own citizens for political pictures?

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at April 28, 2009 11:42 AM (5r0Tz)

26 Just another day at the office for your elites.

Posted by: Greg Toombs at April 28, 2009 11:43 AM (vAu1O)

27 Can we PLEASE publicize this as an example of the (conservative) principle that decision-making authority should devolve to the lowest/nearest level?

Feds decide one thing, City would decide another. City was right.

Posted by: Less at April 28, 2009 11:44 AM (PGXeZ)

28 Barry had to wait for someone to write a transcript, then get it recorded on a teleprompter before he could get his anger up. What a bag of hot stinking gas the whole lot of these nincompoops are. We are in such deep shit...

Posted by: maddogg at April 28, 2009 11:44 AM (OlN4e)

29 Just fucking amazing....This getting better by the day.  Go Barry!!!! You unicorn ass humping chewbaca marrying piece of garbage.  Have a good day

Posted by: Todd at April 28, 2009 11:44 AM (RNwpX)

30 That fuckin' Cessna the other day was scary, though.

Posted by: B.H. Obama at April 28, 2009 11:44 AM (ni9Ub)

31 And now CNN is piling on with the Spector story - "Will the GOP survive"

it makes me ill to see Obama manipulate this country so completely.

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at April 28, 2009 11:44 AM (5r0Tz)

32 If it was a right wing Pres scaring leftist douches in NYC, that would be portrayed as the most oppressive, awful, OUT OF TOUCH thing ever done by a President...

Yeah, I know, you're right.  But still...

Posted by: oLD gUY at April 28, 2009 11:45 AM (n1yDn)

33 Wow - now CNN is saying that Spector signals the "Obama Realignment" just like the "Reagan Realignment"

GEE I WONDER WHO GAVE THEM THAT TALKING POINT.

Fucking ridiculous.\

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at April 28, 2009 11:46 AM (5r0Tz)

34 Chuckie Sleaze:  Never one to miss a chance to make an ass out of himself in front of the cameras.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 28, 2009 11:48 AM (dYNX5)

35 GEE I WONDER WHO GAVE THEM THAT TALKING POINT

Don't look at me.  I mean it.

Posted by: David Axelrod at April 28, 2009 11:48 AM (ni9Ub)

36

Which will be greater: 

The number of people hurt stampeding out of buildings during the TOTUS photo-op.

The number of people injured by a one-man stampede when standing between Schumer and a TV camera.

 

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 28, 2009 11:48 AM (rf03a)

37 SO they would have us believe that there's a legitimate threat of shoulder-launched SAMs in New York, is that what they're saying?  I imagine that info was obtained by Enhanced Interrogation Tactics, wouldn't you?

F*cking hypocrites.

Posted by: Dang Straights at April 28, 2009 11:49 AM (Haq+B)

38 If G.W. Bush was in the White House, the whole display would be declared torture of innocent moonbats, and a full investigation would be called for by Chucky Schumer, and most of his ilk. Personally, I don't have much sympathy for effing moonbats that hand the country over to drooling toddlers.

Posted by: maddogg at April 28, 2009 11:49 AM (OlN4e)

39 I am convinced this whole Spector thing was preplanned - all the Axe talking points are leaking out of the networks and CNN/MSNBC and even Fox

"signals the end of the GOP as we know it"
"Obama realignment"
"proves GOP is a regional party only"


its a perfect way to crush any momentum from the tea parties and punctuate the 100 days, having day 99 be "The Day Spector killed the GOP"

These guys are very smart and our guys are very, very, very fucking STUPID. (See Steele, Michael saying, on live TV, that Spector gave us "the finger")

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at April 28, 2009 11:50 AM (5r0Tz)

40 If G.W. Bush was in the White House, the whole display would be declared torture of innocent moonbats

No such thing.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at April 28, 2009 11:51 AM (ni9Ub)

41 Hey, I understand why people might be upset. But... I Won!

Posted by: Former President-elect Barak Obama at April 28, 2009 11:52 AM (iafWn)

42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgmJ1miBzek  A little musical interlude from Billy Joel.

Posted by: muffy at April 28, 2009 11:53 AM (zplc6)

43

@40

No such thing.

They think being naive and willfully ignorant is the same as innocent. So are cockroaches.

Posted by: maddogg at April 28, 2009 11:54 AM (OlN4e)

44 Now if this was a political schmoozer flight with contributors and lobbyists on board, that is a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

Ehh, even that wouldn't faze me. If the plane was going up anyway, why not have some passengers on board. This seems like one of the small perks that most presidents have rewarded supporters and contributors with.

The real sin is causing a panic among the people and local NYC authorities for no reason.

Posted by: Mćtenloch at April 28, 2009 11:56 AM (z1Jlf)

45 If they wanted a picture of AF1 in front of some landmarks why not use Photoshop? Would have been cheaper and not scared the s#@t out of everyone! Our last President was probaly smart enough to figure that one out.

Posted by: Ralph at April 28, 2009 12:02 PM (oYqj0)

46 Can we please beat Schumer's ass in 2010. Please.

Posted by: Iblis at April 28, 2009 12:07 PM (9221z)

47 Ok, this is way off topic but I have to share. That's what I do. I share. Just got back from walking the dog on our usual route. For any of you morons who are familiar with Boston, the usual route is a stroll down the Commonwealth Mall, the park that separates east and west bound and Comm Ave.. Anywho, it's a nice place to walk on a warm day after a long winter in a city filled with co-eds if you know what I mean, and you do. The park is full of trees and benches, many of them donated in honor or memory of someone. There are little plaques placed in the ground naming the honoree with a little blurb about them. Now normally I don't pay much attention because they are mostly in honor of Dick Hertz or Suzy Rottencrotch or some other nobody but today I had to notice. The dog decided to take a dump right in front of this tree, right on the damn plaque and this being the city, you gotta clean up or get a huge ticket. So as I bent over to clean up, I couldn't miss the words on the plaque "In Honor of Barney Frank's Graduation From Harvard Law School". I left a little turd, seemed fitting.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 28, 2009 12:07 PM (VW9/y)

48 "I think Obama gets a pass on this one.  It was one of several "Air Force One" aircraft.  I forget how many there are.  If this was a routine photo op flight, I doubt the Air Force would have briefed him on it.

Now if this was a political schmoozer flight with contributors and lobbyists on board, that is a whole 'nother kettle of fish."

I'm being overwrought? Screw that. This is the same fucking guy who said the buck stops with him, he'll be all transparent blah blah blah, but whenever he fucks up it's this "I had no idea" bullshit.

He's got two AF1's. If he doesn't know the whereabouts of them at all times he's incompetent.

Posted by: JWF at April 28, 2009 12:07 PM (29kbu)

49 I know I am splitting hairs, so here's a pre-emptive FU anyway. If POTUS ain't on the plane, it ain't Air Force One.

Posted by: Pelayo at April 28, 2009 12:09 PM (nw+cE)

50 The teleprompter must have told Barry to act angry. 

Are we sure Obambi wasn't on the plane?  He does like a good plane ride.

Posted by: bill at April 28, 2009 12:10 PM (zIEEc)

51 "It's what gives Washington and government a bad name. It's sheer stupidity. And if there's anyone who knows stupidity, it's me."

Posted by: Sen. Chuck Schumer at April 28, 2009 12:10 PM (9p0nw)

52 He's got two AF1's. If he doesn't know the whereabouts of them at all times he's incompetent.

So every time one goes from the flight line to the hangar, POTUS gets a special update?  It just doesn't seem like something he would be briefed on.  Terror plots, health care system destruction and...

 "Sir, we're changing the potty seats in AF1-2, just thought you'd need to know."

I'm just not seeing it.  Thanks for the two info, though.

Posted by: oLD gUY at April 28, 2009 12:14 PM (n1yDn)

53 O/T::  How come someone like Malkin or Fox news doesn't do a comprehensive survey of Americans to find out if people have been able to refinance or not.  If the banks have been lending, or not.  Even colloquial evidence would be eye opening.

Posted by: muffy at April 28, 2009 12:18 PM (zplc6)

54 I know I am splitting hairs, so here's a pre-emptive FU anyway. If POTUS ain't on the plane, it ain't Air Force One.

You right, good catch.  Just handy nomenclature.  If the President is flying in a Cessna, then that becomes AF1 for as long as he is on it and ceases to be it once he is off.  In fact, the planes are sometimes used by others like VP or SecState.  During those times, they are not called AF1.  (AF2, if the VP is on it though.)

Posted by: oLD gUY at April 28, 2009 12:18 PM (n1yDn)

55 And FOX news joins the networks and CNN/MSNBC in giving Obama a pass, saying he didnt know and basically validating his story and praising his "investigation"

We do not have any form of independent media in this country any longer.


Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at April 28, 2009 12:19 PM (5r0Tz)

56

Senator Schumer?

I just played Name That Party and got my ass handed to me.

Posted by: FireHorse at April 28, 2009 12:21 PM (w9FHT)

57 31 And now CNN is piling on with the Spector story - "Will the GOP survive"

"Wesley Crusher is leaving the Enterprise - is Starfleet doomed?"

Posted by: kbdabear at April 28, 2009 12:22 PM (miw86)

58 Hey, you know what? I don't give a crap if Obama can legitimately be held responsible for this incident. All I know is, If this happened on "Bush's Watch"... (fill in the rest yourself)

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 28, 2009 12:25 PM (iafWn)

59 "54 I know I am splitting hairs, so here's a pre-emptive FU anyway. If POTUS ain't on the plane, it ain't Air Force One.

You right, good catch.  Just handy nomenclature.  If the President is flying in a Cessna, then that becomes AF1 for as long as he is on it and ceases to be it once he is off.  In fact, the planes are sometimes used by others like VP or SecState.  During those times, they are not called AF1.  (AF2, if the VP is on it though.)

Posted by: oLD gUY at April 28, 2009 05:18 PM (n1yDn)"

Wait, I'm so confused, so if they are calling it AF1, then does that mean he was on the plane?

Posted by: muffy at April 28, 2009 12:25 PM (zplc6)

60 JackStraw at April 28, 2009 05:07 PM Sniff .......... that was beautiful , man .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 28, 2009 12:26 PM (d0YiG)

61 And FOX news joins the networks and CNN/MSNBC in giving Obama a pass, saying he didnt know and basically validating his story and praising his "investigation"

Why would he know?  Does he get daily briefings on the state of Camp David?  How about his limousine?  Updates on when it gets an oil change?  I'm really not trying to be a jerk, though I know I sound like it, but I think people are going overboard with the whole "I've got herpes and its Obama's fault" thing.  They did it to Bush and we laughed.

Posted by: oLD gUY at April 28, 2009 12:27 PM (n1yDn)

62 Wait, I'm so confused, so if they are calling it AF1, then does that mean he was on the plane?

No, its just lazy reporting.  Its just the planes he usually uses.

Posted by: oLD gUY at April 28, 2009 12:28 PM (n1yDn)

63 IMO if the president actually keeps track of where the AF1 planes are at all times, he would be much better off using that time to schedule use of the White House tennis courts.

Posted by: Mćtenloch at April 28, 2009 12:31 PM (z1Jlf)

64
I left a little turd, seemed fitting.

Barney Fag deserves a big turd.

Posted by: D-ling at April 28, 2009 12:34 PM (5QbWF)

65 Schmuckie Schumer gives stupid a bad name

Posted by: kbdabear at April 28, 2009 12:34 PM (miw86)

66 Reminds me of the story a while back about British landlords who were removing public-access fire extinguishers from their buildings because the tenants might get hurt using them. They're so far behind they think they're in first place.

Posted by: Joanna at April 28, 2009 12:36 PM (qBRUE)

67

Unless someone chooses to blow the whistle, I doubt we'll (the public) ever know the real story.

Also, if this was a photo op, I'm sure Obama didn't know about it. If it was a repayment for services rendered of course he knew about it.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 28, 2009 12:38 PM (AJ4xq)

68 I do not understand why the Bush administration couldn't keep national security information secret, but Obama's people plan to buzz the statue of liberty and doesn't get out.  I wish we had some journalists in this country.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 28, 2009 12:40 PM (XIXhw)

69 Only Ivy League dickweeds would think this was acceptable behavior in the wake of 9/11.  It takes a special kind of douchebag to hatch this scheme.

Posted by: MrsPaulsFishSticks at April 28, 2009 12:42 PM (iYbLN)

70 Where's hillary?  did she go to Mexico?

Posted by: muffy at April 28, 2009 12:42 PM (zplc6)

71 Transparency, my friends. they did the same shit to Lockheed Martin and army people about F-22

Posted by: prose at April 28, 2009 12:43 PM (ApD9I)

72

Official title: The Mother of All Photo Ops.

They got their (our) money's worth and more.

Do you think they got the Cloverfield type footage of screaming people running through the streets as well as the shot they went up for?

Posted by: Who Knows at April 28, 2009 12:45 PM (7FgWm)

73 Why would he know? Does he get daily briefings on the state of Camp David? How about his limousine? Updates on when it gets an oil change? I'm really not trying to be a jerk, though I know I sound like it, but I think people are going overboard with the whole "I've got herpes and its Obama's fault" thing. They did it to Bush and we laughed. The buck stops here. Haven't you ever been held accountable for the actions of your employees? He's the boss. He gets the blame.

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2009 12:48 PM (KQBGs)

74 I left a little turd, seemed fitting. Wait, JackStraw, am I getting you right? You bent over, cleaned up after Fido, then YOU took a dump under Bwarney Fwank's plaque? I applaud your commitment, man, I really do.

Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2009 12:51 PM (KQBGs)

75 On the other hand, when do we get to see the pictures?  Will we be able to see tiny pedestrians scrambling for dear life? 

Someone get me a FOIA form.

Posted by: oLD gUY at April 28, 2009 12:52 PM (n1yDn)

76 cost: $328,000. that's cheap, like .30 per person to scare NYer's back to 9/11. jackasses.

Posted by: pbx at April 28, 2009 12:59 PM (MobLv)

77

That is cheap, pbx. Manhattan residents can think of it as another VAT or something.

I wonder if there are many disillusioned Obama voters there tonight.

Posted by: Who Knows at April 28, 2009 01:04 PM (7FgWm)

78 I've been watching 'Monty Bama's Flying Circus' and all I got was a lousy t-shirt.

Was it YOU JackStraw who lifted the widdle duckling from the Public Garden?????That's two strikes!

Posted by: sickinmass at April 28, 2009 01:06 PM (/i4dU)

79 Who's good at these type of things....because a montage of the Cloverfield monster, Godzilla and Obama terrorizing the city would be cool.

Posted by: Who Knows at April 28, 2009 01:08 PM (7FgWm)

80 90.. 911 calls were made between 10-10:30a by panic attacked New Yorkers.
73.. calls made to Mayors hotline. People crying. Obama is sooo lame.

Posted by: sickinmass at April 28, 2009 01:12 PM (/i4dU)

81 No one would know what the heck we were talking about if we called the VC-25s by their numbers SAM28000 and SAM29000.

My understanding is that whenever the President travels by air, BOTH VC-25s are taken along. Therefore if one is doing loop-de-loops in New York, the President can't use the other one. So, someone would have to say "Mr President, you can't use the VC-25s on Apr 27."

Followed immediately by "What's a VC-25?"

Posted by: Anonymous Coward at April 28, 2009 01:14 PM (xJn6H)

82

Huh?  We looked, but we didn't see any planes.

Posted by: The New York Times at April 28, 2009 01:18 PM (yjDfo)

83

Who was on the plane?Bush,Cheney,Rummy,etc.

Any one who ran was a New Yorker.Any one who didn;t run was a well disciplined New Yorker.Very good.

Posted by: chicocano at April 28, 2009 01:18 PM (P2bg4)

84 We know it will cause panic. We wouldn't have to give exact times or flight paths if they are worried about security - just let New Yorkers know that a plane would be making a low pass in the next few days and not to be alarmed. But let's cause the panic anyway.

America still has lawyers right?

Posted by: Snake Oil Baron at April 28, 2009 01:19 PM (7lGBT)

85 I'm just wondering what other Barney Frank milestones are commemerated around Boston.  On second thought, and in consideration of Barney's life style, I don't wanna know.  Probably nobody wants to know.

Posted by: EBJ at April 28, 2009 01:21 PM (ocHBO)

86 That story at CBS had me throwing things again.  About three separate times in the article, His Mighty Wrath is mentioned, and over and over again, the words "federal officials" or "White House officials" is used.  There's an enormous, O-shaped hole in there.

This entire first three months reminds me of the Top Gear episode in which the guys go camping, and Jeremy accidentally starts a pan fire, and in a few seconds he runs out yelling, "Now it's a van fire!" and in a couple seconds the whole entire camper is belching flames.  All that was left was a charred hulk.

We're well beyond pan fire with these people. 

Posted by: Filly at April 28, 2009 01:22 PM (lsiux)

87

Nothing is done without his knowledge. Seeing what he could or could not get away with. Had a scapegoat in the seat to take the heat.

Posted by: paranoid polly at April 28, 2009 01:27 PM (YLNjm)

88 So we can't keep interrogation tactics, or intelligence methods used in war secret, but just try to find out who is buzzing the Statue of Liberty/Ground Zero, or how many geese down airliners in a year at which airports, and the press can't be bothered with such distractions.

Posted by: eaglewingz08 at April 28, 2009 01:29 PM (RdRrk)

89 Any Air Force guys have maintenance connections at Andrews?  Time to get a copy of the weight and balance form.

Posted by: CDR M at April 28, 2009 01:29 PM (TJoU6)

90 Time to get a copy of the weight and balance form.

Oooooh, good idea.    Quite a new meaning to what's inside and outside the envelope....

If this were 1944 and Hollywood still made pro-America movies, I'd put my stilettos and garters on to suss that out of somebody.

Posted by: Filly at April 28, 2009 01:33 PM (lsiux)

91 Of course Obama knew, but in his defense, 9/11 wasn't a big deal.  A couple planes hit a couple minor buildings, some people died, some people got hurt, but that's just a little collateral damage.  Besides, America's arrogance, imperialism and selfish overuse of world resources were the root cause.  We had it coming.  Obviously, 9/11 made absolutely no impression on our Boy President as he is partying and ruling like it's 9/10. 

Posted by: WAstaterepub at April 28, 2009 01:37 PM (aC/SY)

92

America still has lawyers right?

Yes. But they are all defacto employees of the Democratic party, so none are itnerested in any lawsuit that might involve aforementioned employer. Sorry.

Posted by: vixen at April 28, 2009 01:52 PM (/UcUb)

93 "Who's good at these type of things....because a montage of the Cloverfield monster, Godzilla and Obama terrorizing the city would be cool." I'm thinking of that part of "Mars Attacks" where the Boy Scouts are terrorized by a Martian saucer trying to tip the Washington Memorial on top of them - replace the saucer with AF One, pushing the Memorial from side to side as people race frantically to get away.

Posted by: Dr Mabuse at April 28, 2009 02:11 PM (AVYqB)

94 "I'm just wondering what other Barney Frank milestones are commemerated around Boston." I'm sure a lot of them can be found right in that same park.

Posted by: Dr Mabuse at April 28, 2009 02:13 PM (AVYqB)

95 If this was just a routine photo op, there's no reason Obama would know about it. Presidents don't get that level of detail.

If there were "guests" on the plane, then Obama would have known about the flight. But would he know the detailed flight plan? I doubt it.

If the mission was just to photo the plane in front of the Statue of Liberty, there was no reason to fly low over NYC. But suppose there were "guests" on the plane and they requested the flyover? Pilot requests permission from controllers, gets clearance, and flies. NOBODY IS THINKING that people in the buildings would freak out. And nobody in the White House could have known they would do that because it wasn't in the flight plan.

Plausible? Or is my reasoning off?

Posted by: lmg at April 28, 2009 02:25 PM (A/vgC)

96 The fact is the flight order came from the white house, so in fact it was an O'Dumbo order. I seldom watch the news anymore, all you hear is hundreds of left wing idiots making excuses/alibi's/lying to cover the hundreds of dangerous screwups the head idiot makes weekly. I guess we can repeat O'Dumbo's gallows humor when one of the large cities disappears and a few million march on D.C. with full intent of using a real gallows. We are in more danger as a citizen of this country than at any time in history, bar none.

Posted by: Scrapiron at April 28, 2009 02:37 PM (GkYyh)

97 It occurs to me--the aircraft was almost certainly on a flight plan--and that will show the number of souls on board.  It won't show who, but it will show how many.

And the ARTCC tapes would disclose the call-sign the aircraft was using.  (If TOTUS/POTUS was aboard--"Air Force 1", if not, some other call sign.

Somebody with the wherewithal to do an FOI inquiry might get interesting results.

Posted by: Larry Sheldon at April 28, 2009 02:38 PM (OmeRL)

98

Where there's smoke, you find fire.

Where there's stink, you find shit.

Where there's silly stories, you find lying pols.

Posted by: scrood at April 28, 2009 02:38 PM (1dOyI)

99

Great.  The Fresh Prez of Bill Ayers has made mockery of our nation, it's government, it's people, it's economy, it's reputation, it's allies...and finally....

Air *Farce* One. 

Is it 2012 yet????

Posted by: Stillwater at April 28, 2009 02:40 PM (vZlUh)

100

Who can we expect to do a FOI inquiry? Can any citizen do one? I don't know anything on the subject.

I wonder if any media outlets will be doing this.

Posted by: Who Knows at April 28, 2009 02:46 PM (7FgWm)

101 Help me think this through.....

The primary reason for the "Air Force 1" thing is to haul the Pres someplace safe in case ....  oh I don't know ...in case some nut runs a plane into a building or something.

The reason there is a "backup" is so there will be one in case the main one is broken.

So.  What if the hammer goes down, and the Pres is hustled out to Andrews and it dang plane ingests a bird, or a misplqce monkey wrench or something.

Who will know where the backup is and what it is doing?

Posted by: Larry Sheldon at April 28, 2009 02:48 PM (OmeRL)

102

Wouldn't surprise me at all if the plane was filled with big-bucks campaign donors - it's consistent with all the facts right?  (A photo-op?  Really??),

 

Course, if no one in the press asks The Won specifically if that was the case, then he gets a pass on it, right?   (giggles hysterically...)

Posted by: MrJimm at April 28, 2009 02:50 PM (FhAoT)

103 Who will know where the backup is and what it is doing?

Whoever is in charge of the planes. The Air Force, generally speaking.

And if the hammer goes down, the Pres would be on yet another 747 which is the airborne command post, I believe.

Posted by: lmg at April 28, 2009 02:57 PM (A/vgC)

104 What did Obama know and when did he know it!

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at April 28, 2009 03:15 PM (OtE8p)

105

AF1 is the "Flying White House".  Even if the POTUS is not aboard, the Real White House will know where it is, and who is aboard.  And nobody but the Real White House has the authority to to allow that airplane, or its twin, to fly anywhere.  The AF1 747s are operated by the Air Force, and crewed by the Air Force, at the direction the Real White House, and nobody else.

Given the well-know dislike of Obama in the ranks of the military, it shouldn't be too hard to get a copy of a flight manifest.  Or just start running down the list of Democrat mega-donors, and find out how many were at Andrews AFB or vicinity Monday morning.  Hint: start with Soros.

Posted by: sherlock at April 28, 2009 03:19 PM (L4jPh)

106 The reason there is a "backup" is so there will be one in case the main one is broken.

I saw a fascinating documentary on AF1 once, and that's not the only reason there are two.  It's partially a security measure.  The Secret Service constantly mixes up which one the President is on, so terrorists don't know which 747 is actually carrying him.

The twin also played a big role in Bush's asskicking Thanksgiving surprise visit.  One went into the hangar after flying around a bit... the door closed... Bush got on the other, fully tanked twin... the door opened again... and off they went.

Posted by: Filly at April 28, 2009 03:32 PM (lsiux)

107 Schumer knows stupid.  This is the guy who had his minions pull Mike Steele's credit report, in yet another uncharged felony.

Why do you think I chose MarkD for a screen name?  That D is magic, I tell you.

Posted by: MarkD at April 28, 2009 03:45 PM (VI20d)

108 What I don't understand is that they had had a plane violate air space in DC and apparently from the headlines I saw they took that seriously and moved the prez around.  So where was the prez that they were absolutely sure that the 747 would not be needed quick and in some sort of emergency?

Posted by: answer please at April 28, 2009 03:47 PM (zplc6)

109 Are you absolutely sure the plane didn't land somewhere in NY/NJ?

Posted by: answer please at April 28, 2009 03:50 PM (zplc6)

110

Hey guys, I know ths is alot to ask, but can you Republicans hurry up and win back a governing majority? We basically gave Forrest Gump a Teleprompter and we are all surprised and dismayed now that Democrats are suddenly expected to have all the answers to the problems GWB left behind.

Barry won't stop talking about putting "spinners" on AF-1 and he keeps taking it out for joyrides whenever Joey B. nods off, and for some reason, all the world's dictators are laughing on speakerphone whenever Secretary Clinton tries to set up a grin and grip. That stupid ass-chimp Bush seemed to make it look so easy, we figured that Barry could atleast fake it long enough to push through some major changes in entitlements and pave the way to a permanent underclass er...voting majority.

We don't understand why Americans seem to think we are foolish.

 

Posted by: The DNC at April 28, 2009 04:03 PM (2CSLO)

111

What an insult to Forrest Gump.  You racist.

 

 

Posted by: Vladmir Putin at April 28, 2009 04:06 PM (0Qynq)

112 Retardist!

Posted by: scrood at April 28, 2009 04:10 PM (1dOyI)

113 You have to wonder who was on that plane either being picked up from NY or being brought to NY that would be so top secret?  You have to give the guy the benefit of the doubt that it was something important, otherwise, he would not have terrified NYers, right?

Posted by: answer please at April 28, 2009 04:28 PM (zplc6)

114 If the aircraft had landed at any New York/New Jersey airport we would know it.
No, the aircraft came from outside the area and departed without landing.

Sounds like a junket for big buck donors to me.

With no regard whatsoever for New Yorkers.

Posted by: Dan Maloney at April 28, 2009 04:31 PM (o1zZG)

115 a more official news source on the "known panic", http://pfx.me/KB

Posted by: pbx at April 28, 2009 04:34 PM (MobLv)

116 "115 If the aircraft had landed at any New York/New Jersey airport we would know it.
No, the aircraft came from outside the area and departed without landing.

Sounds like a junket for big buck donors to me.

With no regard whatsoever for New Yorkers.

Posted by: Dan Maloney at April 28, 2009 09:31 PM (o1zZG)"

With all do respect, how can you be sure the plane did not land if everything was "top secret".

Posted by: answer please at April 28, 2009 04:35 PM (zplc6)

117 Gretawire question:  Do you want the US government to seal the border with Mexico?

Posted by: answer please at April 28, 2009 04:36 PM (zplc6)

118 O/T::  How come someone like Malkin or Fox news doesn't do a comprehensive survey of Americans to find out if people have been able to refinance or not.  If the banks have been lending, or not.  Even colloquial evidence would be eye opening.

Posted by: muffy

in my case...no. i make my payments (early) every month and have an almost 800 credit score....but my refi amount is $4000 more then what my home is worth right now.  they told me to get lost.

so another FU to you scumbags not paying your mortgages and getting bailed out with your 1% rates on 30% of your principle.

Posted by: unamerican hate mongering evil libertarian at April 28, 2009 04:40 PM (2J+Vs)

119 http://gretawire.foxnews.com/ link to gretawire question.

Posted by: answer please at April 28, 2009 04:41 PM (zplc6)

120 How much would it have cost to have Photoshopped any poses they wanted.  The New York Times probably would have done it for free, or at least referred them to whoever does theirs.

Posted by: Smorgasbord at April 28, 2009 05:22 PM (iJjvG)

121 If the aircraft had landed at any New York/New Jersey airport we would know it.
No, the aircraft came from outside the area and departed without landing.

Rumor has it that the aircraft came from Roswell, New Mexico, and landed at Area 51.

Posted by: PA Cat at April 28, 2009 05:29 PM (Apr5F)

122 it makes me ill to see Obama manipulate this country so completely.

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at April 28, 2009 04:44 PM (5r0Tz)

Ditto. But you know what, he couldn't do it if it weren't for one very uncomfortable fact:  There are a hell of a lot of dumb, uninformed Americans. Ever watch/listen to Hannity's "Man on the Street" segments?


Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at April 28, 2009 08:34 PM (Oh2SG)

123 AIR FARCE ONE and BUMMBLE HEAD OBAMA and his band of blockheads

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