March 30, 2011

Marco Rubio: I Will Not Vote To Raise The Debt Ceiling Unless Accompanied by Spending Cuts, Entitlement Reform, and Tax Reform
Me: There You Go With That Sexy-Talk Again
Marco Rubio: Oh Please I Thought This Was Over

— Ace

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This seems like a sound strategy. I'm actually more on Monty's Team DOOM, because I doubt very much America's ruling class has the political will to save the country.

And that's not even exactly right -- It's not just America's ruling class which is slow-walking towards disaster, it's America's citizens themselves. There is a reason, after all, that our elected representatives have chosen the course of irresponsibility and crushing debt every time they've been given the choice. It's a popular decision. Our representatives aren't exactly voting against our wishes on this issue.

Still, I'm looking for some kind of ray of light here. Maybe Rubio's pairing of one unpopular policy choice (responsible reforms to entitlements, cuts in apparently-popular spending programs) with another unpopular choice (raising the debt limit) can wake some people up.

I will vote to defeat an increase in the debt limit unless it is the last one we ever authorize and is accompanied by a plan for fundamental tax reform, an overhaul of our regulatory structure, a cut to discretionary spending, a balanced-budget amendment, and reforms to save Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

...

Such reductions are important, but nondefense discretionary spending is a mere 19% of the budget. Focusing on this alone would lead to draconian cuts to essential and legitimate programs. To get our debt under control, we must reform and save our entitlement programs.

No changes should be made to Medicare and Social Security for people who are currently in the system, like my mother. But people decades away from retirement, like me, must accept that reforms are necessary if we want Social Security and Medicare to exist at all by the time we are eligible for them.

Finally, instead of simply raising the debt limit, we should reassure job creators by setting a firm statutory cap on our public debt-to-GDP ratio. A comprehensive plan would wind down our debt to sustainable levels of approximately 60% within a decade and no more than half of the economy shortly thereafter. If Congress fails to meet these debt targets, automatic across-the-board spending reductions should be triggered to close the gap. These public debt caps could go in tandem with a Constitutional balanced budget amendment.

Well, I don't like that last thing, really. Statutory caps can always be overcome by majority votes (though I suppose it would empower a minority of 41 senators to filibuster and thus defeat any attempt to override the cap). I'm not against such procedural changes to future spending procedures; I just know these are often used as an unsuitable replacement for current substantive action.

I also don't like the way he puts that bit about "draconian cuts to essential and legitimate programs." I think I'm growing more and more fond of the Rand Paul/Jim DeMint line of thinking on this, and am not happy about statements that implicitly, I think, seem to defend current spending -- which is absurd -- as "essential and legitimate." Domestic discretionary spending can and should be cut by 15%, 20%, or more.

Still, I take some heart in the fact that leading members of the caucus don't seem to have given up and consigned the country to its fate.

Via Hot Air, which has some interesting quotes of the day from yesterday -- including Rubio's reluctance to rule out a vice presidential bid.


Posted by: Ace at 06:23 AM | Comments (136)
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1 Creepy ewok for the win!

Posted by: joncelli at March 30, 2011 06:24 AM (RD7QR)

2 The ewok ate my comment!

Posted by: joncelli at March 30, 2011 06:26 AM (RD7QR)

3 it's worth re posting this here: 

"69 The bad thing about DOOM is, when you try to warn others even the ones who know right from wrong they shake their heads in agreement then proceed on as if nothing is happening or going to happen.

This is why I say that I'm mainly sticking around out of morbid curiosity at this point -- the political process isn't going to save us because the political process is what got us into this mess in the first place.

And this mess has been building for a long, long time -- the seeds were sown more than a century ago. Nobody thought the music would stop; that the party would just go on and on. Well, now the band has packed up and gone home, the guests are gone, and we're left with a giant mess to clean up and a huge bill to pay.

I've tried to run some Monte Carlo simulations on how likely it is that we'll pay our debt down before the interest payments and entitlement spending crush us, and the only ones that have a chance in hell at succeeding depend on supermajorities in both houses of Congress *and* the Presidency. And I don't see that happening in the next ten years. And even if it did, the chances of success are still no better than 50-50, due to the rather "flexible" nature of many of the GOPers (ladies from Maine, I'm looking at you).

Posted by: Monty at March 30, 2011 09:40 AM (FC+dS)"

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 06:28 AM (k1rwm)

4 That Ewok scares the hell out of me.

Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 30, 2011 06:29 AM (NzSVi)

5 Rubio is making the right noises, but he's still a freshman senator.

Talk about a VP nomination is just noise at this point.  Its nearly April already and the USA still doesn't have an annual budget.

Frankly, Rubio can probably have more influence as one of FL's two US Senators than he would as VP anyway.


Posted by: looking closely at March 30, 2011 06:29 AM (6Q9g2)

6 Gosh but this seems so confrontational and all. Why doesn't he just sit back and let the GOP have a single message on this? You know, like CAVE!

Posted by: blaster at March 30, 2011 06:32 AM (Fw2Gg)

7 See....more extermist talk.....you have got to say the word extreme anytime a Republican talks about the budget.......wait.......there are reporters on the line........CLICK!

Posted by: Sen. Chuck "Chuck" Schummer (D-Asshole) at March 30, 2011 06:32 AM (OWjjx)

8 ...
Its nearly April 2011 already and the USA still doesn't have a 2010 annual budget. ...

Posted by: looking closely at March 30, 2011 11:29 AM (6Q9g2)

FIFY

Posted by: Damiano at March 30, 2011 06:33 AM (3nrx7)

9 another worth re posting:  
"180 However, I do see the potential for the slow, slow suck that takes us to some sort of Carteresque, high misery index that is awful enough to impact our daily lives, but not enough to make us go after those in power with pitchforks.
Posted by: shibumi at March 30, 2011 10:01 AM (OKZrE)

Winner, winner, chicken dinner. They're managing collapse. Their intention is to get us used to a point where we accept a much-diminished standard of living, along with greatly attenuated personal freedom, as the norm. I see my stepsons living at the level that my father did during the Depression pretty much for the rest of their lives.

Posted by: joncelli at March 30, 2011 11:02 AM (RD7QR)"

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 06:33 AM (k1rwm)

10 For decades the tax receipts have equaled 19% or so of GDP, no matter the tax rate.
Raise GDP, not taxes, not spending.

Posted by: Tom at March 30, 2011 06:34 AM (MWXXs)

11
dammit, that was supposed to be golf-and-kill-vacations-in-rio-.-com

Posted by: Soothsayer, over easy at March 30, 2011 06:35 AM (uFokq)

12 Posted by: super deals lifelong republican at March 30, 2011 11:32 AM (uFokq)

This is easily the most astonishing spambot I have ever seen.

Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 30, 2011 06:36 AM (NzSVi)

13 There is a reason, after all, that our elected representatives have chosen the course of irresponsibility and crushing debt every time they've been given the choice. It's a popular decision.

I have said this over and over.  We will never get the pols to stop this insane spending and taxing until we take the vote away from the leeches who think it is the job of government to put gas in their tank and pay their mortgages (as well as give them drug money). They truly do think it is coming from Obama's stash. We need to repeal the stupid "no tax for voting amendment" and add one that is the exact opposite. That will take an article V convention because the stupid congress will never do it.

Either we will have that or we will have the Monty DOOM..

Posted by: Vic at March 30, 2011 06:37 AM (M9Ie6)

14 OMG it's a campaign rally!  And, what's wrong with the mike?  He sounds like beck does when he's making the voice of God.

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 06:37 AM (k1rwm)

15
dammit, that was supposed to be golf-and-kill-vacations-in-rio-.-com

Posted by: Soothsayer, over easy at March 30, 2011 11:35 AM (uFokq)

o_O Wait, that was you?

Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 30, 2011 06:37 AM (NzSVi)

16 11 For decades the tax receipts have equaled 19% or so of GDP, no matter the tax rate.

Posted by: Tom at March 30, 2011 11:34 AM (MWXXs)

Nah, once Obama get's his second term, we're going to get 100% tax on zero GDP. We'll all be rich!

Posted by: Democrats at March 30, 2011 06:38 AM (3nrx7)

17 Wicket's been flickin' his Bic!

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2011 06:38 AM (gMAsu)

18 Oh yay, President Horshack is flapping his gums again.

Posted by: Larry King at March 30, 2011 06:38 AM (xMT+4)

19 He's at Georgetown.  Did he ask them to cover all the crucifixes again?  Although on second thought Georgetown has changed there are no crucifixes except in the chapels.

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 06:39 AM (k1rwm)

20 So, restraining order expired?

Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at March 30, 2011 06:39 AM (GBXon)

21 Sock off.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 30, 2011 06:39 AM (xMT+4)

22 Look over his shoulder:  "Winning"

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 30, 2011 06:40 AM (xMT+4)

23 so all of the cable channels are covering the speech.  Beck has not even mentioned it on his radio show at all.  Wonder if Rush will mention it?

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 06:41 AM (k1rwm)

24 Domestic discretionary spending can and should be cut by 15%, 20%, or more.

Well, maybe.  Remember, though, that so-called "discretionary spending" is really the stuff on which the Constitution says we get to spend money.  "Non-discretionary spending" is SS, Medicare, and Medicaid.  So that 15 - 20% is probably right, but let's be clear about what we're discussing.

This is easily the most astonishing spambot I have ever seen.

Pretty sure it's not a spam bot.  The hash is familiar, but I'm not sure who it really is. (Haven't bothered to search)

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at March 30, 2011 06:41 AM (8y9MW)

25 21 So, restraining order expired? Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at March 30, 2011 11:39 AM (GBXon) Yeah, but Rubio's garbage is going to take out another one on its own.

Posted by: joncelli at March 30, 2011 06:41 AM (RD7QR)

26 I am giving up smoking but first I am going to smoke this last cartoon.

Posted by: sTevo at March 30, 2011 06:41 AM (uIz80)

27

Oh yay, President Horshack is flapping his gums again.

That guy picked us and we're losing, already...what's the opposite of 'blessed'?

Posted by: Libyan Rebel at March 30, 2011 06:42 AM (gMAsu)

28 So he's talking about the hidden inflation but he isn't using the "i " word.

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 06:42 AM (k1rwm)

29 #5 "Rubio is making the right noises, but he's still a freshman senator."

That's why the country needs him as a VP.
It's also why my support for Palin has dwindled.
I suspect my support for Rubio will dwindle if he gets another 3-4 years of practicing politics at the national level.

Posted by: jwb7605 at March 30, 2011 06:43 AM (Qxe/p)

30 oh he's reminding us that "we've been here before I remember cause I was in the height of a political campaign".....("he's reminding you GWB was president the last time this happened")

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 06:43 AM (k1rwm)

31 Our representatives aren't exactly voting against our wishes on this issue.

Like hell they're not.

Why the hell can't you restrict yourself to talking about yourself, Ace? Why the fucking need to turn the entire country into your sock puppet?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at March 30, 2011 06:43 AM (IuKAf)

32 Oh yay, President Horshack is flapping his gums again.

Posted by: Larry King at March 30, 2011 11:38 AM (xMT+4)

What an obnoxious jerk he is.  Truly.

Who the hell is it who claims this retard has a winning personality?

Posted by: iknowtheleft at March 30, 2011 06:44 AM (G/MYk)

33 And speaking of Teh Sexy: P-3 sinks Libyan Cutter and A-10 destroys a small pod of Libyan attack boats. 

Paging CDR M!

Outside of the merits of the Libyan War, a scene out of Red October is just too cool. Ok, it wasn't the Kirov...but still!

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at March 30, 2011 06:44 AM (1xonP)

34 this furthers my theory that Ewoks ejaculate napalm.

Posted by: Ben at March 30, 2011 06:45 AM (wuv1c)

35 Sticky Wicket.

Posted by: Joe at March 30, 2011 06:45 AM (y8Anu)

36
Furry ewok buddy: if your started a fire with your wang, I've got two words for ya: lubrication.

Hope that helps. Don't tell me how it works out.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at March 30, 2011 06:45 AM (1hM1d)

37 I ravished that Ewok in unspeakable ways...

Posted by: Will Folks - raging sex monster at March 30, 2011 06:45 AM (YVZlY)

38 I like how the Dems say we have to raise the debt ceiling or we default. They are basically saying we need to borrow money to pay the interest on other borrowed money. Of course we don't have to raise the debt ceiling to avoid default because we certainly bring in enough revenue to pay the interest payment. But if what the Dems say is true then we are already in a debt spiral and raising the debt ceiling is going to make the eventual fall that much harder.

Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at March 30, 2011 06:46 AM (JblH6)

39

And that's not even exactly right -- It's not just America's ruling class which is slow-walking towards disaster, it's America's citizens themselves.

This can't be said enough.

It's easy to whine that the GOP is full of elite insider capitulating wimp RINOs, but they don't exclusively represent the Purity Wing of the GOP, who are of too small a number to get them re-elected.  Any drastic changes they make today would be undone by their Dem replacement should they lose at the end of their term.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 30, 2011 06:46 AM (SY2Kh)

40 As he speaks about the "ups and downs of gas prices" may I remind you folks of this:  our friends at opec had a trillion dollar year

He came to Georgetown to talk to the young people cause they have more of a stake in us getting our energy policy right

really?  Georgetown is a bunch of talkers, they don't even have an engineering school.

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 06:46 AM (k1rwm)

41 I.AM.THE.JUGGERNAUT.

Posted by: Debt Ceiling at March 30, 2011 06:46 AM (GTbGH)

42 'That has to change.'

'That has to change.'


OY.

Posted by: momma at March 30, 2011 06:47 AM (penCf)

43

Our representatives aren't exactly voting against our wishes on this issue.

Like hell they're not.

Why the hell can't you restrict yourself to talking about yourself, Ace? Why the fucking need to turn the entire country into your sock puppet?

um. I think he's right here.

Do you ever go to local political or council meetings. Everyone wants the budget reduced, deficit cut, but no services provided reduced.

Hell just look at the comment section here during Social Security brawls. Everyone here wants the deficit cut, but not when they might be affected by those cut

Posted by: Ben at March 30, 2011 06:47 AM (wuv1c)

44

And speaking of Teh Sexy: P-3 sinks Libyan Cutter and A-10 destroys a small pod of Libyan attack boats. 

Paging CDR M!

Outside of the merits of the Libyan War, a scene out of Red October is just too cool. Ok, it wasn't the Kirov...but still!

First Iran, now Libya has flying boats?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 30, 2011 06:47 AM (SY2Kh)

45 Waving his hands around like he's talking to a bunch of schoolkids. What a fucking bozo.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 30, 2011 06:48 AM (xMT+4)

46 Wow, this Rubio guy is making some common sense arguments.  BURN HIM!

Posted by: John Boner at March 30, 2011 06:48 AM (zgZzy)

47 'We can't afford it'....

Oh, he isn't talking about his budget, but our high use of gas.

Posted by: momma at March 30, 2011 06:48 AM (penCf)

48 Like hell they're not.

52% of the electorate stand as proof of Ace's assertion.  I'm forced to agree with his conclusion--not only because of those who actively voted for the goodies, but because too many of us let it happen without full and proper challenge.

Truth hurts, but without it, we'll never find a way to salvage anything good from this catastrophic Charlie Foxtrot that America has turned into.

Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at March 30, 2011 06:48 AM (GBXon)

49 "... the costs to our economy, our country, our planet, our galaxy ..."

Posted by: Barky Hussein, Ally of America's Enemies .. but I love America at March 30, 2011 06:48 AM (G/MYk)

50 "...they don't exclusively represent the Purity Wing of the GOP, who are of too small a number to get them re-elected."

Thus the reason we need to convert the rest of the GOP to the Purity Wing.  So there will be enough to get them re-elected.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at March 30, 2011 06:49 AM (8y9MW)

51
oh yeah, everyone I know is totally for NPR, Planned Abortionhood, and for funding that swell "Fresh Fruit"  in schools program.


Posted by: Soothsayer, over easy at March 30, 2011 06:49 AM (uFokq)

52 My policy for next year's budget?  Cut, rinse, repeat.  Bitches!

Posted by: Paul Ryan at March 30, 2011 06:49 AM (zgZzy)

53 We can cut our oil dependency by 1/3


Sure, by tanking the economy you stupid fuck.

Drill here. Drill now. You stupid ass motherfucker.

Oh, now we have to look at Brazil.

Posted by: momma at March 30, 2011 06:49 AM (penCf)

54 "today I want to announce a new goal:  we can cut our oil dependence by a third (polite clapping but not thunderous applause)

he's going to share American technology and know how with the brazilians as they develop their new significant oil that they just found


Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 06:50 AM (k1rwm)

55 "but our best chance to enhance our own energy independence and security can be found in our own backyard" [paraphrased from memory]

and then he went nuts again.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at March 30, 2011 06:50 AM (G/MYk)

56 'Safer, healthier, more prosperous' - the country he will lead the student's generation.

Posted by: momma at March 30, 2011 06:51 AM (penCf)

57 'Finding and producing more oil at home'

Posted by: momma at March 30, 2011 06:51 AM (penCf)

58
If the Republicans had a rapid response apparatus set up, which they don't, they'd be out there right now asking why Obama is outsourcing our oil and jobs to Brazil.


Posted by: Soothsayer, over easy at March 30, 2011 06:52 AM (uFokq)

59 he's talking about "American ingenuity"

did he just say what I think he said?

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 06:52 AM (k1rwm)

60 Soothsayer -- "oh yeah, everyone I know is totally for NPR, Planned Abortionhood, and for funding that swell "Fresh Fruit"  in schools program."

I don't know if that's sarcasm or not because seriously, about half (like 52%) of the people I know would agree with that statement.

Drives me nuts.

Posted by: jwb7605 at March 30, 2011 06:52 AM (Qxe/p)

61 Why is the Retard-in-Chief talking about this today?  Didn't he have some group of foreigners to go visit (and hopefully stay with)?  WTF?

Posted by: iknowtheleft at March 30, 2011 06:52 AM (G/MYk)

62 "but our best chance to enhance our own energy independence and security can be found in our own backyard" [paraphrased from memory]

And its called coal. And you hate it. So STFU

Posted by: Mallamutt at March 30, 2011 06:52 AM (OWjjx)

63 '1st time in more than a decade, oil imports was less than 1/2 of what we used.'


Fails to mention we are in a fucking depression/recession.

Posted by: momma at March 30, 2011 06:52 AM (penCf)

64

54 We can cut our oil dependency by 1/3

 

Not bloody likely.

Posted by: OPEC at March 30, 2011 06:53 AM (zgZzy)

65 Posted by: Soothsayer, over easy at March 30, 2011 11:49 AM (uFokq)

I believe it was a collective "we," there, 'Sayer.  And he's unarguably right: "we," collectively, have voted for the very DOOM which awaits us.  However hard you or I have stood against it, the majority have been for it.

Heck, as an example, take a look at one of Monty's DOOM threads when he's pointing out (again) how unsustainable Medicare and SS are, and watch how quickly our older friends jump out and say, "Oh no you don't!"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at March 30, 2011 06:53 AM (8y9MW)

66 fox and cnn have cut him off, CNBC has him in the line with the amrket results and it's too funny.

"he doesn't have amnesia, he remembers these things"

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 06:54 AM (k1rwm)

67 Oh shit.

He just said, 'That's just common sense.'

Oh fuck. What the hell does he know about common sense.


Tells us he doesn't have amnesia.  He remembers these things (Gulf oil spill)

Posted by: momma at March 30, 2011 06:54 AM (penCf)

68

CONCERNED RETIRED PILOT: Look, we can't make it across the ocean with the fuel we have. I don't even know how this flight got approved.

PASSENGERS: This airline's taking us to Hawaii! We're going to Hawaii!!

CONCERNED RETIRED PILOT: Really, we're almost out of fuel. If we don't turn around we'll crash.

PASSENGERS: SHUT UP! HAWAII! HAWAII!!

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at March 30, 2011 06:54 AM (SCcgT)

69 I'm sure every decade since the founding of this Country there has been the political equivalent of the guy with the sandwich boards yelling The End Is Near! Its what Americans do but we also don't give up. At least that used to be the case.

Posted by: polynikes at March 30, 2011 06:54 AM (iRWGZ)

70 oh yeah, everyone I know is totally for NPR, Planned Abortionhood, and for funding that swell "Fresh Fruit"  in schools program.

Doesn't matter.  I doubt your--any of our--circle has enough people in it to sufficiently police these issues.  And so it slipped in, again and again.  Defending democracy against those who'd corrupt it from within is a full-time job, and it hasn't been getting done, for the simple fact that most of us have lives and 'day jobs' to see to as well.

We let too much slide, for too long.  Now it's not sliding, it's plunging.

Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at March 30, 2011 06:54 AM (GBXon)

71 Can President Dumbass just get to the part where we spend a gazillion dollars we don't have on  alternative energies that are unproven and commerically unviable at this moment and get this over with.

Posted by: Mallamutt at March 30, 2011 06:55 AM (OWjjx)

72 He is bragging about all the new drilling permits his Admin. has OK.

Any claim opposite that is untrue.  Might make a good sound bite but it doesn't fit with reality.

He keeps lowering his voice.  I swear to God I am sick to my stomach.


Posted by: momma at March 30, 2011 06:55 AM (penCf)

73 hahhaah now even CNBC is "taking a quick break from this"

why is it being called "America's energy SECURITY"?

why the word security with energy?

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 06:56 AM (k1rwm)

74

We let too much slide, for too long.  Now it's not sliding, it's plunging.

 

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Posted by: America, Sliding Downward at March 30, 2011 06:56 AM (zgZzy)

75 Posted by: momma at March 30, 2011 11:55 AM (penCf)

Well, you're doing God's own work in distilling what he's saying for the rest of us, so we don't have to watch.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at March 30, 2011 06:56 AM (8y9MW)

76
So it's all or nothing?

I understand we don't have the will to take a bite out of the mammoth entitlement programs. What I don't understand is why we don't have the balls to nibble at the other waste such as NPR.


Posted by: Soothsayer, over easy at March 30, 2011 06:56 AM (uFokq)

77 I actually had to turn him off.  His voice changes scare the shit out of me.  He really does sound like the hypnotist my mom just went to for pain.  He constantly changed his voice and meter.

Posted by: momma at March 30, 2011 06:56 AM (penCf)

78

The way that governments are running our states and country is about as well thought out as a caper on Batman. It's not even one of the better schemes, like we saw with The Joker or The Riddler. This -- holding people hostage until a ransom is paid, but the hostage is never released because the ransom must be paid continually -- is more like a plot Egghead came up with.

The big difference is that there was a chance, however remote, that Egghead was going to use his money to buy the affections of Anne Baxter. At least Egghead had a plan and a goal. It makes more sense than whatever it is our rulers have in mind for themselves and for us.

Posted by: WaterCow at March 30, 2011 06:56 AM (k3RPu)

79 Well john harwood and larry kudlow are disappointed and beck is screaming on his radio show.  well, he is eliciting a response, isn't he?

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 06:57 AM (k1rwm)

80 (Cotton pickin' sock. Whatever. I'm going with it.)

Posted by: WaterCow at March 30, 2011 06:57 AM (k3RPu)

81 I agree with Rubio's take on this and I'm glad that other lawmakers have stated the same thing. The Dems have to make serious, substantial concessions if the debt ceiling is to be raised.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 30, 2011 06:57 AM (UO6+e)

82 did he make fun of the "drill baby drill" idea?

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 06:57 AM (k1rwm)

83

78 I actually had to turn him off.  His voice changes scare the shit out of me.  He really does sound like the hypnotist my mom just went to for pain.  He constantly changed his voice and meter.

 

Turn it back on!  I'm about to say "Tollybon!"

Posted by: President Present at March 30, 2011 06:57 AM (zgZzy)

84 "tragic fire I started with my wang"

That is some funny shit right there.

Posted by: Monty at March 30, 2011 06:58 AM (FC+dS)

85 WIND MILLS!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mallamutt, getting ahead of President B to the O...Hollar at March 30, 2011 06:58 AM (OWjjx)

86 Christie/Rubio 2012

Did you see the Newsmax/Zogby poll results this morning? 

Posted by: Y-not hasn't read any of the comments at March 30, 2011 06:58 AM (pW2o8)

87 ok, so kudlow finds it confusing and he's asking "so what exactly is his message this morning?"

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 06:58 AM (k1rwm)

88

At least Egghead had a plan and a goal.

 

 

Thank you!  Here's a signed 8x10 glossy!

Posted by: Zombie Vincent Price at March 30, 2011 06:58 AM (zgZzy)

89 *waves to Marco*

I hope he reads this blog. 

Posted by: Y-not hasn't read any of the comments at March 30, 2011 06:58 AM (pW2o8)

90 SOLAR PANELS!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mallamutt, getting ahead of President B to the O...Hollar at March 30, 2011 06:59 AM (OWjjx)

91

Thus the reason we need to convert the rest of the GOP to the Purity Wing.  So there will be enough to get them re-elected.

The GOP represents around a third of the electorate.  A majority that does not make.

Like it or not, it's going to require baby steps if the cuts are to be sustained.  Only when the public sees that the sky does not fall after relatively minor 5% cuts in discretionary spending (which the Dems consider "extreme") will they be open to more.

Ditto with entitlement reform.  I doubt few would have a problem with a SS means test that denies benefits to those with an outside income over $75,000 a year.  Start with a generous baseline, then adjust from there.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 30, 2011 06:59 AM (SY2Kh)

92 DRILL, BABY, DRILL!

Posted by: mare at March 30, 2011 06:59 AM (A98Xu)

93 Posted by: Soothsayer, over easy at March 30, 2011 11:56 AM (uFokq)

Because that's just mean!

No.  Really.  That's their reason.

Also because (not sure why this matters, but apparently it does to 52% of people) the amount of money CPB gets from the tax payer is so small, both in comparison to the Federal Budget, and CPB's own revenues.

No, I don't understand why that means we should keep spending money on them, but that argument has worked every time it's been used.  Every.  Single.  Time.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at March 30, 2011 06:59 AM (8y9MW)

94 GERBIL POWER!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Richard Gere, Stealing Mallamutt's Line at March 30, 2011 06:59 AM (zgZzy)

95 the traders are saying most of our oil comes from mexico and canada and they've factored what they are hearing in.  They are all scrambling as it appears he's not really saying anything but he's doing a lot of talking.

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 07:00 AM (k1rwm)

96 Cutting the government by 1/3 would be a hell of a lot healthier than cutting our oil consumption by  1/3. That and voting Jugears McFuckstick onto the ashbin of our historical folly.

Posted by: maddogg at March 30, 2011 07:00 AM (OlN4e)

97 I blame the Food Coloring.

Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2011 07:02 AM (gMAsu)

98 everyone on cable took him off.  

Appollo IPO at high end of the range but a disappointment.

they shouldn't have ipoed.

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 07:02 AM (k1rwm)

99 88 ok, so kudlow finds it confusing and he's asking "so what exactly is his message this morning?" Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 11:58 AM (k1rwm) There is no message and there is no action. He's saying stuff and then will later say that the stuff he said constituted action. It's a postmodern position from a postmodern president.

Posted by: joncelli at March 30, 2011 07:03 AM (RD7QR)

100 The President is being fundamentally dishonest, as usual. An oil company can possess a lease but the government has to give them a permit to drill. He's the one holding up the permits, so he has no right to whine about their lack of productivity. But he'll pin the blame on "Big Oil" anyway, because it's convenient.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 30, 2011 07:03 AM (UO6+e)

101

He not only made fun of drill baby drill but he ridiculed everyone who held the position to which he's being dragged and screaming.  He really doesn't get the fact that many of us already overinflate our tires a few pounds to save bucks, barely drive, and generally wish the armor-plated giant-fleets-of-limos set would start acting like they believe what they say. 

Nothing like watching Davos participants getting into the long lines of S600 (that's the V-12) limos. 

Oh, and milk doubled in price since the last time I went to the grocery store. 

If only we could find a strong nationalistic leader to take us back from the brink and restore pride in our country.

/Ahead-of-the-curve sarcasm.    

Posted by: Beagle at March 30, 2011 07:05 AM (sOtz/)

102 FYNQ.  No cuts to anything.

Posted by: The Cowboy Poet at March 30, 2011 07:05 AM (oDMwn)

103 I denounce myself in advance for posting this Zogby Poll showing Christie leading the pack with over twice as much supporter as the next nearest prospective candidate. 

It is sad that the two top vote-getters are not even announced candidates and may not run. 

Posted by: Y-not at March 30, 2011 07:06 AM (pW2o8)

104 the one time republicans take a page out of the dem playbook the dems shut them down using the elected dem judges on the court.  It's like fighting a monolithic monster.  Yet, the republicans didn't react this way with the dems.

the republicans need group therapy to find out why they can never take that next definitive step, why they are afraid of their own shadows, why they are in denial.  They get to DC and don't seem to care that they can be voted out.

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 07:07 AM (k1rwm)

105

Ace...............when you have all most lost me.........

you pull me back in.

Posted by: Racefan at March 30, 2011 07:07 AM (MV+oD)

106 Cable turned him off as I think they were all disappointed, however, I found myself thinking that this speech is to bait Sarah Palin and to charge up the campaign and secure all those little rich kid voters at Georgetown, the almost ivy, stuck up, little brat, trust fund baby school

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 07:09 AM (k1rwm)

107

OT: Update on the legislation to chastise the Senate for not passing a budget:

"They are currently preparing a resolution — dubbed 'The Government Shutdown Prevention Act — that would formally scold the Senate for failing to act (some 39 days after the House passed a long-term budget resolution, H.R. 1, to cut federal spending by $61 billion) and urge them to pass a spending bill. It would also publicly reiterate the urgency of the situation — the current resolution funding the government expires on April 8.

The resolution will stipulate that if the Senate fails to pass a bill before April 6 that funds the government through the remainder of the fiscal year (September 30), H.R. 1 would become 'the law of the land,' and members of Congress would stop receiving their paychecks."

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 30, 2011 07:10 AM (UO6+e)

108 Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 30, 2011 12:10 PM (UO6+e)

why don't they stop sending the welfare checks and the social security checks, oh wait, they don't send checks, they shouldn't load the cards, period.  Then maybe folks will realize the gravy train is going to come to an abrupt halt so as not to go off the tracks.

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 07:12 AM (k1rwm)

109 The resolution will stipulate that if the Senate fails to pass a bill before April 6 that funds the government through the remainder of the fiscal year (September 30), H.R. 1 would become 'the law of the land,' and members of Congress would stop receiving their paychecks." That would take balls, but that seems kind of like deeming a bill passed - I cannot imagine that is a consitutional thing to do. I don't think one house can bind another.

Posted by: blaster at March 30, 2011 07:12 AM (Fw2Gg)

110 I speak.........therefore, I lead.

Posted by: Stuff President B to the O believes at March 30, 2011 07:12 AM (OWjjx)

111 Might be the funniest Ewok yet...

Ace, just remember, it NEVER gets old

Posted by: phreshone at March 30, 2011 07:14 AM (T3vCe)

112 listen, you unpatriotic louts...link

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 07:14 AM (k1rwm)

113 High-speed rail! China does it! Let me be clear!

Posted by: Damn Obama Sockpuppet at March 30, 2011 07:15 AM (YmPwQ)

114

If you take the 2001 Federal Budget ($1.9 Trillion) and just adjust for inflation (average 2.4%)  and population growth (285 --> 308 million), then our 2011 Budget would be $2.6 Trillion, which is about $1.2 Trillion less than what we have today.

The DOOM is our own making, and to call the $61 Billion in cuts "Extreme" is just stupid.

http://tinyurl.com/474g53l

Posted by: Ghost of John Brown at March 30, 2011 07:16 AM (cBcNP)

115 I hope you'll all join me in adding 2 - 3 lbs. of air pressure in your tires. We'll stick it to those OPEC fuckers but good!

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at March 30, 2011 07:16 AM (+lsX1)

116 the apollo IPO, IMHO, is a giant red flag, look at the guys who put it out there.

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 07:16 AM (k1rwm)

117

110 That would take balls, but that seems kind of like deeming a bill passed - I cannot imagine that is a consitutional thing to do. I don't think one house can bind another.

Could they argue for doing it due to the fact they hold the purse strings?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 30, 2011 07:19 AM (UO6+e)

118 Official Hot Air appreciation day here at the HQ ..  Allah= Ace ??
Never see them at the same party at the same time. Gulp.

Posted by: wildwood at March 30, 2011 07:20 AM (VSWPU)

119 There is a reason, after all, that our elected representatives have chosen the course of irresponsibility and crushing debt every time they've been given the choice. It's a popular decision.

Yes, and this may even be linked to people like Ace screaming that if you don't vote for a person whose name is followed by an (R) - no matter how shitty they are - WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!1!!!1!!!ELEVEN!!!!

Posted by: EvilRedScandi at March 30, 2011 07:21 AM (M+Vm5)

120 went looking for a text of the speech and I had no idea we have a whole department dedicated to global warming.

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 07:23 AM (k1rwm)

121 Maybe we should start calling him Marco Galt.

Posted by: Dastardly Dan at March 30, 2011 07:25 AM (JKiPp)

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 07:27 AM (k1rwm)

123

"So hereÂ’s the deal, people.  We havenÂ’t finished our task.  WeÂ’ve still got some work to do.

AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Fired up!

AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Ready to go!"

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 07:29 AM (k1rwm)

124 I will not be eating

why doesn't he ever eat at these things?  Is he on a special diet?  Does he somehow follow some religious fast we aren't aware of?  Why?

Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 07:32 AM (k1rwm)

125 126:  Somebody will ask--so I checked, and no, we're not anywhere near any of the days Islam normally calls for fasting.  Though they do use it to show solidarity.

Mind you, it is Lent as well.  So yeah, let's not bother with this angle, it's a bit much.

Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at March 30, 2011 07:41 AM (GBXon)

126 Pawlenty!

Posted by: blaster at March 30, 2011 08:12 AM (Fw2Gg)

127 That Ewok reminds me of a science teacher I had in junior high...

Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at March 30, 2011 08:15 AM (haL9W)

128 "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

Posted by: Uncle JR at March 30, 2011 08:18 AM (7cOTT)

129

That would take balls, but that seems kind of like deeming a bill passed - I cannot imagine that is a consitutional thing to do. I don't think one house can bind another.

We thought that too.

Posted by: The House of Lords, c. 1911 at March 30, 2011 08:29 AM (PReJ3)

130 "A democracy will continue to exist up until the voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury."

Yup, that's pretty much it.
Most of the senior citizens, union workers, mexicans, etc. that I know are pretty conservative.
But they all vote Democrat because they want that paycheck or some other giveaway.
The only people that run against the rule are military.
Interesting times we live in.

Posted by: RayJ at March 30, 2011 08:59 AM (2oRAd)

131 Ghost of John Brown: "The DOOM is our own making, and to call the $61 Billion in cuts 'Extreme' is just stupid."

Too kind. It's not stupid. That would at least be somewhat honorable. "Stupid" is a reflection of limited cognitive skill. What that Progressive (Democrat) talking point is is an intentional lie. It's propaganda. IOW, the use of "extreme" WRT reductions in spending is evil.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 30, 2011 09:09 AM (swuwV)

132

Rubio translation: "I will set the bar at infinity and vote against the debt ceiling increase, which I know has the votes to pass anyway."

Nice sentiment, accomplishing nothing except perhaps some fiscal cred for Rubio.

Whoop-dee-doo.

 

Posted by: Meremortal at March 30, 2011 09:42 AM (DffuX)

133

 Here in NH we are in the middle of a battle royal in regards to the budget and our state employee unions.Tomorrow(thurs.)the unions and thier supporters are having a rally to try and intimidate our elected Representatives.

We are going to see first hand what Wisconsin just went through.I'm tempted to attend but my patience for the other side is gone.It would take very little to push me over the edge as I am sick and tired of thier bullshit and it is sure to get testy as recent events have proven.Hopefully our Reps(we have veto proof majorities in both chambers)will stay the course.They WILL be rewarded for thier bravery when the time comes. 

Posted by: vae victus at March 30, 2011 09:42 AM (oi4Yx)

134 Yeah, Rubio. He's late to the party. Other "freshmen" got there way ahead of him. Does he need to see where the pack is heading before he makes up his mind?

I'm getting tired of that schtick.

Posted by: K~Bob at March 30, 2011 12:24 PM (Q8zdB)

135 The Ewok started a fire with his Wang? Was it a VS100, OIS or a Wang WP? Anyhow, I'm not surprised, them old computers are almost 30 years old! (former Wang Labs engineer here)

Posted by: Clutch at March 30, 2011 01:07 PM (X67eL)

136 thanks for your share!

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