August 31, 2008

Look How Svetle and Unpregnant Ms. Palin Is
— Ace

Another Update (See Far Below): DU Says: "Now We Move on to the Daughter"


A wisp of a leaf of a twig of a pixie, I tells ya.

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Another obviously photoshopped picture of Gov. Palin wearing her tin-foil fat suit here.

This picture shows that Governor Palin is about to give birth to six pounds and eight ounces of right-wing Xtianist hatred.

These people ought to be ashamed. But they haven't any.

Thanks to Brett. Brett Weir! New Theory! The daughter got pregnant, but to hide that fact, they aborted it, and then Sarah Palin faked a pregnancy "as a distraction."

Then they hunted and killed a pregnant teenaged runaway and presented this changeling-baby as Sarah Palin's own.

Which only tells me one thing: We need this fucking woman as Vice President. Or at least Director of Operations at the CIA.

As my friend not_steve_in_hb said (cleaned up to be slightly more respectful), Sarah Palin is the first vice presidential candidate worthy of sexual fantasies since Lloyd Bentsen.

Is It Over? Sullivan, Daily Kos Diarist declare "scandal' over based on these flickr pictures... until, of course, a Daily Kos Diarist "proves" they're fake, or we see those very-scientific "fat suit comparison" I predicted earlier.

You can either take my word for it or check these sites yourself. I'm not linking them.

Not Over... For God's sake, they won't stop. Having had their first attack on the daughter disproven, now they're launching a direct attack on her (without even the pretense of attacking Sarah Palin for "dishonesty").

Now they're saying, oh, we were wrong, she wasn't pregnant then, she's secretly pregnant now.

Some of the elements from the previous smear are simply being recycled, but set in present rather than six months ago. Now, you see, the daughter is mysteriously absent from school, etc.

All that stuff about her being absent from school before? Oh, we were just funnin'. Now you can believe the crap we're just making up as we go. It's now she's mysteriously absent and hidden.

Larwyn sent me this the other day. This is from Democratic Underground. (I don't want to link them, either, but I'll so so here.)

Let the left explain their game in plain words:


NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-30-08 10:26

122. What many here don't understand. It doesn't matter if it's true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH.

The modern laws of media hype and political warfare have a useful tenet:

Repeat ANYTHING or raise false concern over ANYTHING and it is likely to be planted in the conscious/subconscious of many voters.

If people start to think that there might be something fishy with Palin's last kid (if hers), then that's FINE. One more doubt (whether tied to reality or not) is another hesitation at the ballot box.

GET WITH THE PROGRAM PEOPLE. The "rising above it" bullshit has served us so well in the past, hasn't it?

If you have problems with the story, then STFU and get out of the way of Dems who are engaged in MODERN POLITICAL WARFARE. Go tend your garden or some other pedestrian task, because the "concern trolls" are not helping shape the message.

J

Karl Rove Blamed, Predictably: KRYMB.

It was inevitable, wasn't it? From the Daily Kos thread mourning the end of their first crazy rumor:

Karl Rove (2+ / 0-)

Recommended by:
Ellie the Kat, Exhausted Pennsylvanian

I would suggest that maybe Karl Rove himself started this story.

By getting everyone in a tizzy over the grandmother angle he gets us all to stew over it for a few days. Then proof that the Gov is the mother surfaces and we all have black eyes. This also damages DailyKos and other reality based sites.

Then someone else tries to bring up the flying on the plane story while 8 months pregnant with a high risk pregnancy. The media then fires back: "We already looked at that pregnancy story, why don't you just drop it."

And that's what happens, it gets dropped and another wingnut with horrible judgment gets away with it.

Another brilliant move Karl. Just brilliant.

And another:

*
No (0+ / 0-)

This woman made a mistake by getting on that plane. That mistake could come back to haunt her.

So Karl Rove invents a story that the daughter had the baby and the mother rushes home to be with the daughter.

This story removes all the other stories from being discussed and it hides the governor's poor judgment for getting on that plane.

Then the proof comes out that the gov really is the mother. Everyone in the reality based community has a black eye. And all the true stories that reflect on the Gov poorly get overlooked.

And if anyone then tries to go back to any of those other stories, the media people just say: "That? That's old news. The only reason you are bringing that up is because you love Obama. You people are so unfair. That pregnancy? That's been hashed and rehashed. Why would you bring all that up again?"

Finished. Another wingnuts mistakes get glossed over. All from the brilliance of Karl. Karl doesn't have to manipulate anything but a story.

by prius04 on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 10:52:55 PM PDT

A long-term scheme:

The proposition being offered is that KR (0+ / 0-)

began orchestrating this back in March, including persuading Palin to take that flight back to Alaska and then rush to the hospital for induced labor within 24 hours of the speech in Dallas.

Catch-22: If Palin was pregnant and dared to board a plane, that's just as bad as the other thing!

If she wasn't pregnant, but lied about it to cover for her daughter, then she's a liar, without the integrity needed to be President when McBraaaaaains dies.

If she was pregnant, then her reckless disregard for what she herself would unequivocally declare human life makes her completely unfit for the office of President when McBraaaaaains dies.

Thanks for these to AQ.

HUNT FOR THE MOLE! Kos Kids suspect --

Someone set us up the bomb.

Having peddled this ridiculous and vicious smear, and fearing the "black eyes" this has given them, and how it has reduced (I shit you not) the "credibility" of DKos, the Kos Kids are now trying to find out... What Rovian Conspirator tricked us into believing this story?

The diary that started this whole thing...

That picture was used as "evidence" that she was not pregnant...

Only the picture chosen had, oh-so-conveeniently, a desk corner positioned just so it obscured Palin's midriff.

The diarist, I think, had to have had access to more photos from the conference than just that one -- including ones, like this, which would have clearly shown Palin pregnant.

I say we investigate "Photogate".

What did the diarist know, and when did s/he know it?

by WIds on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 09:09:10 PM PDT

An Attempt at Sense... Rebuffed!!!


I'm astounded by the capacity of some here to bend their logic into a pretzel.

Was it part of Rove's plan to start this $hit in Alaska press, WAYYYY back before McCain was even the nominee, all planned to trap dKos into speculation?

McCain - Worse than Bush

by MAORCA on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 09:23:35 PM PDT

But no -- the conspiracy lives! It just takes another form!


No, but it may have entered into the decision (0+ / 0-)

The story was out there. Imagine Rove imagining that the opposition would buy into it, promote it, etc., and then you set up a "Checkers" speech.

by a brain on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 10:52:34 PM PDT

"A brain." I question the naming.

Can't argue with that...

I watch a woman fake pregnancy on tv and it was also very convincing.

by igwealth5tm on Sun Aug 31, 2008

Someone responds, thankfully, "I saw them make a dinosaur in Juraissic Park and it was very convincing too."

Since the Left is Now Claiming that She Committed "Attempted Manslaughter' by Flying the Plane While Pregnant...

...let's look at the facts.

1) She was a full month away from her anticipated delivery. Not a week. A full month. Eight months along, not nine. Thus, she'd have no reason to suspect, particularly, she was about to give birth.

Why would a woman in her eighth month of pregnancy fear an air flight?

2) Her water didn't break, although that's how the story's been told later. She had "leakage." She knew something funny was going on -- and so went home to see her OB/GYN. But there was never a fear of imminent delivery.

3) And there was no imminent natural delivery -- her OBGYN induced labor when she got back to Alaska.

This is so fucking stupid my teeth hurt even discussing it. But this whole idea -- that it's frightfully reckless for a pregnant woman to board a plane -- is based on the idea that she was deep in the ninth month and ready to deliver her baby.

But she wasn't. She gave birth one month early, after induced labor. A woman in that position would not suspect she was about to deliver a baby -- because she wasn't scheduled for it, and wasn't feeling labor pains, etc. -- and so wouldn't think much about a six or seven hour plane trip.

They're Just Not Giving Up...


the phot may be real but is that
tummy real....thats the question

by votingin08 on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 09:02:23 PM PDT

...

Baby-suit, pillows, any number of

... ways to make yourself look pregnant. I'm not saying she faked it or not, but why the rush to try and defend her? Sarah Palin is not on my team, I feel absolutely need to defend her honor.

Besides, if their is no story here, there no story here and it will all go away. If there is a story ... Then it is the most bizarre political tale since Jim McGreevey.


by Larry Madill on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 08:55:33 PM PDT

...

One line of reasoning suggests ...
that the fake pregnancy was to coverup the teenaged daughter's incest (which raises the likelihood of Down's).

I think this whole thing is totally cheezy, but I think our political process is totally cheezy as well. I didn't used to think so but the last two presidential cycles have caused me to wake up and smell the feces.

I don't really care about what happens to repugs anymore. They haven't shown they care about me and mine.

by Urizen on Sun Aug 31, 2008 at 09:21:16 PM PDT

So a bit of nasty honesty there -- "I don't care that this isn't true, I'm just going to keep making up wilder and more vicious nonsense because I hate 'repugs.'"

Perhaps if Madamoiselle Milky Loads had inquired into the mindset of those pushing this rumor -- and wondered, um, what exactly is the source for the oft-claimed "fact" that the daughter was out of school for eight months? I've only seen that on Kos and DU, and cocksuckers like Power Glutes parroting them -- he wouldn't have been in such a rush to push it.

Nah, what am I saying. Power Glutes Andy never met a conspiracy theory he didn't immediately post under the guise of "just airing questions," nor a cheap smear he was above publicizing.

Revulsion: At DU, they're just more honest about this than Power Glutes Andy:

"Pic from the Governor's convention-can we end this now?

Response:


BeyondGeography
66. I agree...time to move on to the daughter

And the response to that?


"LOL! Destroying the Palin family one member at a time :rofl:

LOL and rofl indeed, dude. Rock on.


These are the people whose pathetic smears Madamoiselle Milky Loads is peddling.

He never paused for a moment to question, "Wait, on whose authority, exactly, do I have it that Bristol was ever 'missing' for any period of time?"

He just accepted their claims uncritically.

Because they're fellow Obama cultists. Incapable of erring, let alone lying to impugn a 16 year old girl whose only offense is being born to a "Rethuglican" mother.

How the fuck do you live with yourself, asshole.

"A different kind of politics."

By the way: A Hillary supporter tried explaining to me why he hated Obama so much. (This was when I thought Obama was okay, relativey.)

"He puts out the most vicious stuff," he said. "And anything you say about him, he plays the race card."

"No he doesn't," I said. "I haven't seen that.'

"Well his supporters do."

"Well that's not really his fault," I said.

"You'll see," he said.

I'm beginning to understand. I know that Obama calls up the press pushing the race card on them.

I don't know, obviously, if he pushes this kind of crap to Milky Loads. I doubt it.

But I begin to understand the visceral hatred this Hillary supporter had for Obama. Whether Obama and his people are responsible for his cultists' viciousness, I sure understand the feeling of despising Obama for it.

For all of it. For DU, for Kos, for Princess Power Glutes.


Thanks to TopsecretK9. And Qwinn, too.

Dr. Seuss Hates Sullivan: NSFW, and really very profane and just plain awful. But, hell, if you want to read a vile put-down of Sullivan -- which he richly deserves -- and prefer such put-downs in the form of Seussian poesy, click here.

Posted by: Ace at 07:53 PM | Comments (165)
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1 Is it just me or are we falling prey to the old "pick a woman veep and immediately start posting fat pics of her" trick?
Ooooooh those wily democrats.

Posted by: Darkkan at August 31, 2008 07:58 PM (GrF7z)

2 FAKE!

Oh God, let it be FAKE!

Posted by: St. Andrew of the Heartache (aka THE true conservative) at August 31, 2008 07:59 PM (hlYel)

3 the more time spent on this, the more time you fight on their battlefield. This has been all McCain since Friday. Ignore this crap. Of course it's take. Let them talk themselves into  the gutter.

Why encourage this?

Posted by: lorien1973 at August 31, 2008 08:04 PM (fE4SP)

4 Hee Hee -

I wanted to see what the Eurotrash were saying about Sarah Palin - I had Google translate an article from Der Spiegel, and here are some excerpts:

We must also admit that the elder Mr. U.S. this Friday surprised. . We have informed how many of the Halbinformierten or believed that it is between Joseph Lieberman or Mitt Romney would decide. Maybe we should admit that we do not either sexy or noteworthy or significant found, and if we were therefore very cautious, then we said: Probably John McCain will give us a surprise...

The most interesting is, if we Sarah Palin in contrast to Hillary Clinton.  For the latest must now Barack Obama of course ask if the cordially loathed Hillary is not prominent in his government team appointed.  Sarah Palin is a Ms. normality, as Republicans love..

It is exciting in America: An older Lord, a patriotic hero, occurs against the first black candidate in the history of the country.  And the hand with the loose mouth parts, Joseph Biden, must deal with a young woman herumschlagen who do not have much experience may be, but as Ms. normality almost sacrosanct.

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 31, 2008 08:07 PM (ubHgw)

5 You know, these pictures aren't helping Michelle's kids.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 31, 2008 08:07 PM (qPHMe)

6 "And the hand with the loose mouth parts,"

If my hand had loose mouth parts, they wouldn't call me Masturbatin' Pete. They'd call me Never Fucking Stops Masturbatin' Pete.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 31, 2008 08:12 PM (qPHMe)

7 Wow I didn't realize Haliburton made such realistic fat suits. Sometimes the VRWC really does surprise.

Posted by: Maetenloch at August 31, 2008 08:13 PM (Ab2VX)

8

That's a picture of Rosie O'donnell with Sarah Palin's head photoshopp, and everyone knows it.

 

Posted by: SlaveDog at August 31, 2008 08:21 PM (6Gy0q)

9 Palin is as devious as Cheney and 2% sexier.

Posted by: Aaron at August 31, 2008 08:21 PM (2S1LU)

10 Go ahead, make fun of the typo, you pedantic bastards.

Posted by: SlaveDog at August 31, 2008 08:22 PM (6Gy0q)

11 "We need this fucking woman as Vice President. Or at least Director of Operations at the CIA."

Fucking brilliant line.

Posted by: Christoph at August 31, 2008 08:24 PM (hawOV)

12 Go ahead, make fun of the typo, you pedantic bastards.


Whhy wouuld wee ddo thatt? ?

Posted by: kev at August 31, 2008 08:25 PM (DA3d3)

13 It's obviously a fat suit she was wearing to cover up the fact that her teenage daughter was pregnant with a bastard child.

Occam's Razor, you know.

Posted by: Sean M. at August 31, 2008 08:27 PM (e6v7s)

14 Oh, and look at the title - it's MRS. Palin, not Ms.

(Miss Jackson if you're nasty.)

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 31, 2008 08:27 PM (ubHgw)

15 I imagine, within a couple of weeks, the Governor's OB/GYN who delivered taking to microphones and saying (from prepared notes on a 3x5 card):

"I've been released from my confidentiality requirements under HIPPA, so I can say without reservation, what the *$&% is wrong with you people?"

Or maybe the Governor lets this simmer a while longer and has a DNA test done.  Rolled out on national television.  Well, good golly, it seems that the child I carried and went into labor with and delivered is actually MY CHILD.  WOW! 

At that point there could be no other way to criticize this lady.  "Hey, you're in the pocket of big oil!", they'll say, to which she can reply, repeatedly, "And you mutants thought I don't know who my children are."

And so on.  Seriously, this is astonishing stuff.  Can the Left really and truly base the rest of this campaign on complete fantasy, and not even remotely plausible fantasy?

Posted by: ArrMatey at August 31, 2008 08:29 PM (35LYA)

16 Huh UH!

She has the Halliburton preggo suit on,  (and the "big oil" "preggo glow" makeup kit in use too).


Posted by: Gonzo at August 31, 2008 08:37 PM (C0McP)

17

Actually, ArrMatey, the "expert" consulted by the MSM re. Palin's water breaking being dangerous and cited by well-know O.B.-Gyn, Colmes, as an obvioius cause of Down's Sydrome is a Democrat and a recent appointee of Gov. Shitandateher, named Gregg:

http://tinyurl.com/6qlap6

P.S. Ace, the page measure is effed up in the comments section.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 31, 2008 08:37 PM (qKkaY)

18 I love this shit. 

I've been giggling myself silly reading the comment threads here since Friday.

hee hee...  Lloyd Bentson... *shakes head in disbelief*

Posted by: Hurricane Mikey at August 31, 2008 08:38 PM (OmIEH)

19

Since none of you fuckers seem to have a big enough nut sack to say the obvious, I will.

I'd hit it.

 

Posted by: AndrewsDad at August 31, 2008 08:38 PM (bSdbt)

20

I can't fuckin' believe I have to be the first one to say this:

I'd hit it.

Come on you slack-jawed yokels, get with the program.

Posted by: pendejo grande at August 31, 2008 08:38 PM (qN0f5)

21 Thanks AD for nuttin.

Posted by: pendejo grande at August 31, 2008 08:39 PM (qN0f5)

22

(Not that you were talking about the Colmes' O.B.-Gyn, ArrMatey. I should have written "related to your post".)

Posted by: andycanuck at August 31, 2008 08:41 PM (qKkaY)

23 You sank my battleship!

Posted by: The Media at August 31, 2008 08:48 PM (nuuDA)

24 John McCain said that he knew how to get Bin Laden--and I didn't believe him.  Then I saw the pictures of Governor Palin, crouching triumphantly over her the freezing corpse of her last target.  I am beginning to believe.

Posted by: erik at August 31, 2008 08:53 PM (hblvb)

25 O'Reilly should still slay these bastards on Tuesday.  Internet smears are a real bugaboo with him.

Posted by: funky chicken at August 31, 2008 08:53 PM (xyyHG)

26 it's just that ol' Democrat bugaboo:  childbirth

Posted by: Born Free at August 31, 2008 08:57 PM (9fbhA)

27 This stood out from the DUmmy posting:

"The "rising above it" bullshit has served us so well in the past, hasn't it?"

When have these numbnuts ever "risen above it"?  When have they not chosen actively to be scumbags?  Would they even know how?

Oh, and a fresh fuck you to Andrew Sullivan, because that can never be said too many times.  Fuck you, you addle-headed bastard.  Rot in Hell.

Posted by: Kensington at August 31, 2008 08:58 PM (xFNQx)

28 Number of ejaculations: 4

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 31, 2008 08:58 PM (qPHMe)

29 Maybe Todd and Sarah filmed the birth and can release it to shut these morns up!  LOL

Posted by: ordi at August 31, 2008 09:01 PM (0LY3l)

30 You know, if Obama actually manages to fumble this election the long knives will come out for him.

Democrats eat their own.

Posted by: The Chewbacca Defense at August 31, 2008 09:01 PM (nuuDA)

31

I feel a bit sorry for Sarah and her family. We're not even thru the weekend following her announcement and she and her family are being subject to the most vile personal attacks imaginable. I hope they have thick skins, and I certainly hope the little ones are shielded from it as much as possible.

As for Kos and sullivan and all the posters at DU, etc., remember this: you have the distinction of going thru life as hateful irredeemable assholes, and soulless suckers of the Barbed Cock Of Satan™.

Posted by: Jones at August 31, 2008 09:04 PM (VkNlv)

32 Masturbatin' Pete's birthday is coming up, and Mrs. Pete looks a little like Sarah Palin. Not as close as Tina Fey, but more conservative than the tedious Ms. Fey, so it works out pretty well.

Anyway, I was going to ask her to dress up like a schoolgirl or cheerleader for my birthday, but now I think I'm going to ask her to put her old glasses on, put her hair in a bun, wear a dark suit, and slip on - fuck yes - these shoes if I can find them.

Happy birthday to me!

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 31, 2008 09:09 PM (qPHMe)

33 Why encourage this?

Force Obama to throw them under the bus. 

Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 31, 2008 09:11 PM (6L459)

34 You have been on fire today Ace.  Great blogging.

Posted by: The Chewbacca Defense at August 31, 2008 09:23 PM (nuuDA)

35 You know, if Obama actually manages to fumble this election the long knives will come out for him.

Democrats eat their own.

I don't know about that. Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, and John Kerry seem to be doing all right. They even dusted off Zombie Walter Mondale to run for Senate a while back, though they keep crazy Zombie George McGovern locked up pretty well. He does manage to escape periodically and say something embarrassing.

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 31, 2008 09:24 PM (ubHgw)

36

This also damages DailyKos and other reality based sites

BWA-HA-HA-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

Observations:

1. How could I have been the first fuckin' moron to comment on that?

2. I forget ...I'm still fuckin' laughing my ass off.

Posted by: davis,br at August 31, 2008 09:25 PM (zewwG)

37 Anyway, I was going to ask her to dress up like a schoolgirl or cheerleader for my birthday, but now I think I'm going to ask her to put her old glasses on, put her hair in a bun, wear a dark suit, and slip on - fuck yes - these shoes if I can find them. Happy birthday to me! Here you go.

Posted by: Helpin' a brother out at August 31, 2008 09:27 PM (ynsah)

38 It seems to me that during the whole course of the democratic primary, the news cycle on any given day was given over to one of the candidates demanding that another candidate "renounce", or "denounce", which ever is stronger, some comment made by by somebody's supporter.

Is that all over?  Where is the MSM in Obama's face asking if he will reject, renounce, denounce, and distance himself from all of this crap?

Posted by: ArrMatey at August 31, 2008 09:28 PM (35LYA)

39 I should have known Cheney couldn't keep his big mouth shut.

Posted by: Karl R. at August 31, 2008 09:29 PM (n3pxb)

40 Maybe I'm just a moron, but... going through all their sites, I keep reading over and over how horrible - HORRIBLE! - like serious actionable malpractice it is - for a late term pregnant woman to fly on a plane.  The water breaking thing is almost like an afterthought.  They're acting like a pregnant woman getting on a plane is equivalent to her throwing herself down a flight of steps.

What the FUCK is wrong with these people?  Never in my life have I even heard that there was -any- reason a pregnant woman shouldn't get on a plane.  WTF.

Qwinn

Posted by: Qwinn at August 31, 2008 09:31 PM (anXNR)

41 No need to link DU - it's been memory holed.

Which...if you just grabbed a screenie and posted that instead of linking, you could keep not linking and save the stupid at the same time.

Posted by: jrl at August 31, 2008 09:35 PM (h37S5)

42 I keep reading over and over how horrible - HORRIBLE! - like serious actionable malpractice it is - for a late term pregnant woman to fly on a plane.

They don't know how tough Alaskan women are. If Sarah went into labor while she was out harpooning dolphins or killing wolves with a chainsaw, she would just say "Excuse me", whelp the kid, and then go back to what she was doing with the baby at her breast.

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 31, 2008 09:37 PM (ubHgw)

43 My apologies:

http://tinyurl.com/just-jealous-i-cant-b-preggy

Posted by: You Know Who at August 31, 2008 09:37 PM (XeUWq)

44

THE BALLAD OF SARAH PALIN
(Sung to the tune of Davy Crockett)

Born in the northern part of Idaho,
Destined for fame, she just didn’t know.
Learned to hunt and fish, even in the snow,
Never was one to just go with the flow

Sarah, Sarah Palin,
lady from “The Last Frontier.”

Moved to the North before she was one,
Landed in the “Land of the Midnight Sun.”
Beautiful and strong, she likes to have fun,
She always works hard, but her work is never done.

Sarah, Sarah Palin,
lady from “The Last Frontier.”

With her five kids and a man named Todd,
They carved out a life eatin’ moose and cod.
Alaska had some waste and a lot of fraud,
So she went to work and laid down her fishin’ rod.

Sarah, Sarah Palin,
lady from “The Last Frontier.”

http://palinforamerica.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nOF4cq6qNc

Posted by: metro1 at August 31, 2008 09:38 PM (kfdNd)

45 An Attempt at Sense... Rebuffed!!!

If this election season had tits I'd marry it!

Posted by: runninrebel at August 31, 2008 09:56 PM (qAMnO)

46 If this election season had tits I'd marry it!

It does have tits now! That's why it's so great!

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 31, 2008 10:00 PM (ubHgw)

47 <i> I would suggest that maybe Karl Rove himself started this story.</i>

Karl Rove is KOS poster Inky999???

I posted this, but looks like it was eaten.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at August 31, 2008 10:07 PM (jQj6D)

48 This is so fucking stupid my teeth hurt even discussing it. But this whole idea

Ace

You know why? You shouldn't be discussing it, Amanda and merry bands of Vagina "Stay out of my Uterus" Crusaders should be and they should be hollaring on the roof tops aabout this wild sexist rumor porn being pimped and embraced by their ideological sisters and brothers

but are they?

Crickets.

I guess Amanda really DOES like pitching a tent in uterea after all, who would have thunk?

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at August 31, 2008 10:13 PM (jQj6D)

49 44 My apologies:

http://tinyurl.com/just-jealous-i-cant-b-preggy

Does anyone have a running list of batshit crazy conspiracy theories that have completely flew apart in like 10 minutes after posted and completely unfounded, erroneous crap Andrew has posted "aired over the last few years?


There that previously debunked a Cheney shotgun vid he posted

A couple of truther fire doesn't melt steel type ones

Keeps referring to people as Swifties that aren't

Cross in the sand he ate shit on

Anymore?


I good list would be helpful and fun!

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at August 31, 2008 10:20 PM (jQj6D)

50 Geez, I am typo queen. Sloooooow down will I!

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at August 31, 2008 10:22 PM (jQj6D)

51 How insane are these people?

Do they jack shit about Down syndrome?

The risk for Down syndrome is directly proportionate to the mother's age.

A mother at the age of 20 (the daughter is 16 in this case) has a 0.1% of a trisomy of the 21st chromosome in a baby.

A mother at the age of 45 (Palin is 44) has a 3.6% of a trisomy of the 21st chromosome in a baby.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Trisomy21_graph.jpg

Posted by: Timothy Watson at August 31, 2008 10:27 PM (up/so)

52 Topsecretk9 Cheney, that is it damn it. I'm never sharing a secret with you again!

Posted by: Karl R. at August 31, 2008 10:34 PM (n3pxb)

53 DU thread posting the Preggers photo titled

"Pic from the Governor's convention-can we end this now?

Response:


BeyondGeography
66. I agree...time to move on to the daughter


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6857774&mesg_id=6858205

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at August 31, 2008 10:36 PM (jQj6D)

54 Maybe Karl Rove, back in 1994, told Sarah Palin to have 3 more daughters and name them Bristol, Piper, and Willow just to "fuck with the moonbat's heads" when she runs for VP in 2008.

Yes, and then he thought up the television shows "Charmed" and "Buffy the Vampire Slayer", and gave characters those names to send the moonbats on a wild goose chase.

Rove, you magnificent bastard!

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 31, 2008 10:39 PM (ubHgw)

55 Thanks Ace

I wish I was good at putting those bullet pointers together, much better at finding -- Any Moron wanna?

Sure would be nice to have a  handy cliff notes bullet point version to embarrass the crap out of the Atlantic with (if that's even possible), because where I am sitting Sullivan actually does "blogging" a disservice and gives it a black-eye.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at August 31, 2008 10:43 PM (jQj6D)

56 However, he did have some conspiracy theory involving the Air Bomb plot, and I'm pretty sure it was linked to lamont-lieberman.

It was.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at August 31, 2008 10:44 PM (jQj6D)

57 Back in 1994? Hello? More like Roswell NM alien powered Time Machine.BTW, in another timeline, John Kerry is Ho Chi Minh's houseBOY. That boy can kneel for hours.
 

Posted by: Karl R. at August 31, 2008 10:46 PM (n3pxb)

58

I'd be interested in the number of plotters who had passports. How could they even stage a dummy-run with no passports? And what bomb-making materials did they actually have? These seem like legitimate questions to me; the British authorities have produced no evidence so far. If the only evidence they have was from torturing someone in Pakistan, then they have nothing that can stand up in anything like a court.

I wonder if this story is going to get more interesting. I wonder if Lieberman's defeat, the resilience of Hezbollah in Lebanon, and the emergence of a Hezbollah-style government in Iraq had any bearing on the decision by Bush and Blair to pre-empt the British police and order this alleged plot disabled. I wish I didn't find these questions popping into my head. But the alternative is to trust the Bush administration.

Been there. Done that. Learned my lesson.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at August 31, 2008 10:47 PM (jQj6D)

59 oops, above is Andrew "airing" - link below

http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110008803

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at August 31, 2008 10:48 PM (jQj6D)

60 This whole issue is so far beyond the bounds of any sort of reasonable political dialogue that it almost makes one long for a little bit of Putinesque opinion shaping. 

One almost longs for a parking lot that needs to be built somewhere, under which a hole needs to be dug, into which the remains of one or more of these soulless buffoons need to be placed pour encourager les autres.

Okay, that's not quite how we do things (anyone seen Jimmy Hoffa lately?) but these cretins are pushing it.

Posted by: mrkwong at August 31, 2008 10:51 PM (G8Eo0)

61 Is it just me, or are some of these sick fucks going to actually be disappointed if Obama actually wins?  Hear me out...

They've built up Chimpy McHitlerhurton and KKKarl Rove as these fascist dirty tricksters who will do anything to win, including, apparently, pwning them on their own blogs with fake stories and stealing elections.  At the same time, they've built themselves up as THE BRAVE RESISTANCE, fearless truth-tellers and askers of the questions that the Right-Wing Corporate media (like CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC--and yes, they really believe this shit, I've met people like this) refuses to ask.  I'm convinced that for a lot of these people, the only reason they have for getting up in the morning is to expose the facism/racism/sexism/homophobia or whatever other pet horrors they've convinced themselves are permeating AmeriKKKa.

If, God forbid, Captain Bullshit should win this thing, what's going to happen to their worldview?  There is no fascism.  Maybe those elections weren't stolen.  Perhaps everything we've been screaming and ranting about for the last seven years really was bugfuck fucking balls-out crazy bullshit.

So I say to you, Kossaks, join us!  Vote McCain-Palin '08 (or just stay home, either way)!  Validate your existence!  Prove yourselves right!

Posted by: Sean M. at August 31, 2008 10:52 PM (e6v7s)

62 That last part Ace, the "move on to the daughter", and what you wrote? Should be a post of it's own...(and you don't have to thank me, rather you didn't really)

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at August 31, 2008 10:55 PM (jQj6D)

63

it's just that ol' Democrat bugaboo  -  Barack?

I denounce myself.

Posted by: John Bradley at August 31, 2008 11:03 PM (Y3Sui)

64 TopSecret, great find.  Did you see the reply to that reply?

"LOL!  Destroying the Palin family one member at a time  :rofl:"

I previously referred to these people as vermin.  I hereby tender a heartfelt apology to any lice, diseased rats and other actual vermin that I have grievously and unfairly insulted in that comparison.

Qwinn

Posted by: Qwinn at August 31, 2008 11:03 PM (anXNR)

65 Still looking at the Euro papers - Le Monde had this headline:

"With Sarah Palin, John McCain wants to seduce women and conservatives"

Well, who doesn't?

Posted by: Jim62sch at August 31, 2008 11:08 PM (ubHgw)

66 I am so naive. I thought the nutroots wouldn't hate the next Republican Vice President as much as they hate Dick Cheney. We really aren't people to them are we?

Posted by: fredras at August 31, 2008 11:27 PM (1OMSg)

67 The daytime soaps should hire some of these buffoons to help craft storylines.

We really aren't people to them are we?

Nope. My nutty truther in-laws basically disowned my husband over politics two Christmases ago. It was one of the ugliest things I've ever seen, and we haven't spoken to them since.


Posted by: nightwitch at August 31, 2008 11:46 PM (dfTf5)

68 Frankly, I don't know why we're even fucking around with McCain or even Palin.  Obviously, we need Karl Rove as President.  He'd have Putin giving Achmedinejad a Sullivan in about 20 minutes.  A crane, some rope, and a little Sharia, and PRESTO!, problem solved.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 31, 2008 11:56 PM (TsQGc)

69 I'll admit to a certain amount of glee over the past couple days watching the fruitloops immolate themselves on this.  McCain and Governor Palin are adults, and can certainly handle the slings and arrows of twelfth rate dipshits and feverish imbeciles.  Then, I read the words, "I agree...time to move on to the daughter."  I'll confess to being ashamed of the thoughts that inhabit my mind as a result.

Posted by: Clownballoon at September 01, 2008 12:02 AM (4wcRp)

70 They really can't quit.  Seriously, under the heading of "I agree we should leave it alone, but..." one of the DUmmies posts links on how someone can fake a pregnancy.  Including one (which Rove must have placed, damn him!) asking how one might portray pregnancy during a stage (or staged, if you will, hint hint) play.

It's all Political Theatre, sheeple!

Thankfully, DU poster "Walter Sobchak" comes in right afterward to say, "There are too many legitimate criticisms of Palin to count. She is unbelievably unprepared to be VP or president. Spending so much time on this dumb topic distracts from the real issues."

Because Captain Bullshit is so very qualified to become POTUS after a stint as a "community organizer," a short while in the Illinois State Senate, and an incomplete term in the U.S. Senate.

I really don't get the people who think Palin's supposed inexperience blunts this line of attack on Obama, who has never held a job for more than three years.

Posted by: Sean M. at September 01, 2008 12:10 AM (e6v7s)

71 I really don't get the people who think Palin's supposed inexperience blunts this line of attack on Obama, who has never held a job for more than three years.

This is the brilliant judo nature of McCain's pick. If you make the argument that her resume makes her unqualified for the number TWO spot, than why the hell is Captain Bullshit's thin resume enough for him to have the number ONE spot.

McCain was on my barely acceptable list of candidates during the primary, but damn if this fucker didn't come ready to play. You can really tell which one of these guys has had the road leveled and smoothly paved for him and which has had to actually fight for things, up to and including his very life.

Posted by: nightwitch at September 01, 2008 12:27 AM (dfTf5)

72 Don't look now, but Milky Loads has posted photos of a very obviously pregnant Sarah Palin on his POS site, saying it seems to "put the kibbosh" on his vile speculations for now, but it would still be so easy for the McCain campaign to confirm the fact that Mrs. Palin's child is really Mrs. Palin's child.

What a vile piece of shit.

Posted by: CornFedBeauty at September 01, 2008 12:47 AM (Z07/i)

73 If you make the argument that her resume makes her unqualified for the number TWO spot, than why the hell is Captain Bullshit's thin resume enough for him to have the number ONE spot.

You know, this conversation doesn't help Michelle Obama's kids.

Posted by: Sean M. at September 01, 2008 01:04 AM (e6v7s)

74 DNC RIP

Posted by: maverick muse at September 01, 2008 01:38 AM (F1b/5)

75 IT TAKES A VILLAGE to wage modern political warfare.

"If you have problems with the story, then STFU and get out of the way of Dems who are engaged in MODERN POLITICAL WARFARE. Go tend your garden or some other pedestrian task, because the "concern trolls" are not helping shape the message."

May they choke on their own words and die of their own poison in their own epidemic cesspool.

The same shits who removed "and the American Way" from our children's hero's most famous line have removed all honor of innocence supplanted with evil and cruel torment of innocence.

BHO, community organizer, ethics reform senator enabling corruption rather than fighting corruption, America recoils as you hijack IT TAKES A VILLAGE to tar and feather and then burn at the stake a baby, a good mother, and a sweet daughter.

The DNC with all of its activists, movers and shakers not only instigate evil together, but will enforce the worst world upon our psyche, taking no prisoners. Give them an inch, they take your life and the world. Either conform or be slaughtered. Don't think they're really going to let anyone off to perform pedestrian tasks without towing the MODERN POLITICAL WARFARE line, singing the unison monotone Dem chorus: Arbeit macht Frei as Hope for Change We Can Believe In.

'All we are saying is give peace a chance' has been translated by community organizers into "all we are saying is give death a chance".

AT LEAST just say no.
Vote against the viral democrats this November.

Small things matter.

Posted by: maverick muse at September 01, 2008 02:27 AM (F1b/5)

76

You know, I kept trying to tell them to stay away from this whole fake pregnancy rumor.  I told them in no uncertain terms that this rumor would come back to bite them in the ass.  But did they listen to me? Does anyone ever listen to me?

Posted by: Admiral Akbar at September 01, 2008 02:33 AM (0WhiX)

77 Clownballoon @ 05:02 AM: "I'll confess to being ashamed of the thoughts that inhabit my mind as a result."

Don't be ashamed.

Posted by: butch at September 01, 2008 02:36 AM (2Cchq)

78

"I keep reading over and over how horrible - HORRIBLE! - like serious actionable malpractice it is - for a late term pregnant woman to fly on a plane."

But sucking the baby's brains out the previous month is A-OK with then.  These people are stupid collapsed in on itself.

 

 

Posted by: Tami at September 01, 2008 02:37 AM (P3ErD)

79

I believe I was the first commenter on this site to say that Dems would be going after Governor Sarah Palin with regard to sex (and not just sexism).  But I still underestimated them.  They went after her daughter and then her husband.

This isn't an accident or an example of a few lefties who just got carried away.  These "digital brownshirts" want to send a very specific message: if you're a Republican, and you dare to seek elective office, they will violate your privacy by exposing any secrets you do have, and making shit up if they can't find anything.  Even if they can't stop you, they can make other people think twice about following you.

It's McCarthyism.

Before Sunday, I thought using the term "milky loads" to refer to Andrew Sullivan was rude, unwarranted, unfair, and an infringement on (what little is left of) his privacy.  Having bad opinions, having silly man-crushes on politicians, and being a big flake doesn't merit that kind of disrespect.

But this--this does merit exactly that type of disrespect.  He's gone too far.  He's probably too far gone.  HIV-related dementia, you say?  I believe you.  Before Sunday, I thought Andrew Sullivan was silly and frivolous.  Now I think he's diseased and demented, rotting away, just a shell of his former self, a cruel self-parody.  His blogging today bears only a superficial resemblance to his former work from years past.  He remembers how to blog but he's lost his ability to think critically, and he's lost his former values, even though he's managed to convince himself that he's grown into becoming a "true" conservative.  Here's a hint, Milky Loads: true conservatives don't spread vicious rumors about minor children.  It's time for Zombie Andrew Sullivan to take a permanent hiatus from blogging.

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at September 01, 2008 02:38 AM (6ji5E)

80 These idiots are so scared of Karl Rove that they are tilting at windmills.  McCain should hire Rove as a distraction.  Rove could travel the country stopping at various places and having "secret" meetings there.  The Dems will forget all about the election and spend the next two months trying to figure out what he is up to.

Posted by: Steve L. at September 01, 2008 02:44 AM (o0YD+)

81 And what were those two things Michelle Obama gave birth to?

Oh, but we can't go there--"The One" says they are off limits to us.  "The One's" minions can do and say anything the fuck they like and "He" just tippy-toes over it like dog shit because "He" has nothing to do them.  What a prick.

Posted by: mikey at September 01, 2008 02:53 AM (6dpFp)

82 Separate items: 1. Babies don't just fall out. Or rather, when they do (i.e. ya birth in under an hour), that's usually a =good= situation, as the baby is usually breathing well, is a good size, etc. My biggest baby just popped right out after 2 pushes. That was the easiest birth ever. It's when they take forever to get out that you have to worry -- that's why a lot of emergency C-sections happen. Anyway, it's not like the baby needed immediate surgery upon birth - Trig had an extra chromosome since he was conceived. It's not like one's birth conditions reach back in time to alter one's DNA. That would make for an interesting sci-fi premise, though. 2. I talked with my grandfather last night. He was really stoked about the Palin pick -- and he's older and fogier than McCain. Then we talked about the bullshit going on with various Catholics pretending that abortion is just one of many issues (he was talking about his =parish=priest=. There's a reason Dante had a lot of clergy/heirarchy in Hell.... they ought to know better. They have =no=excuse=. They're not ignorant, they are making a deliberate choice.) Let's say that the Palin pick is playing extremely well in all sorts of demographics. My grandfather is a literal country club Republican (he lives right next to the 17th green). I'm a literal neocon (I used to be socialist and then liberal). My Ma hasn't said anything, but I bet she was a Hillary supporter, and I can see her voting for McCain now. This is awesome. 3. I stopped reading Andi years ago, when he was obviously going deranged. He used to be more reasonable and logical, and then in 2004 he went batshit. It's not just that he switched sides - I've done that, too. It's just how shrieky he became. I didn't remember him being such a drama queen when he was on our side, though I admit that it may be due to my own partisan biases.

Posted by: meep at September 01, 2008 03:09 AM (7uTCa)

83

II hnestly think it would be much more productive,and of this planet, to ignore the ramblings of complete and utter morons and lets get back to the job of truly vetting Gov. Palin.

Since her intoruction in Ohio I have been absolutly pumped up and brought back into the fray of an election that three weeks ago was nothing more than an irritant.

I want to more on what Gov Palin, has she squandered 100 million dollars of taxpayers money, does she attend or socialize on a consistant basis with radical religious whackjobs, does she literaly befriend terrorists for her personal gain and yes I know these are out of the world questions for those who are running to lead this fine country but....you know....this time around they actualy need to be asked.

Seriously though, this woman absolutley has captured my heart in such a conservitive and genuine way that all this talk on "this" website about what some lunatics from another website are spewing just seems to lend those idiot credibility....where they have none.

I see that Gov. Palin has the soul of what many of us here have but lets focus on her in the weeks to come, see how she handles herself in the spotlight, how she confronts and slaps down liberal drivel for all to see and hope that she is the complete package.

As for the kooks and the media, take them with a grain of salt, mabey toss a few of their ludicrous commets out here for us to laugh at(I mean seriously, how could we possibly hate them anymore than we do now) but lets try not to focus on the unimportant ramblings of kooks and focus on the positives of the actual canidate....IMHO, of course.

 

Posted by: Drider at September 01, 2008 03:28 AM (IQAbf)

84

Along with being the first hard-leftist President Barry brings along the filthy propaganda that is always associated with Communism/Socialism/Maoism. Those people do not care about the truth or morality, they are insane.

Clinton went after an intern with his effete minions, now Barry and his leftist brethren are going after Sarah Palin's daughter, I assume, to get Palin to quit or something, maybe just destroy her.

What exactly is the point to destroying the daughter anyway? Is it gonig to give Barry more voters, protect Barry so he can drink more beer and bowl, turn Republicans to Barry...there really is no point to it...

They aren't well thought out, as a freshly minted turd floating around in a toilet bowl randomly is.

Angry, deranged leftist homosexuals going after a breeder's family...not exactly a shocking development.

Posted by: Sen. Rev. Dr. E Buzz at September 01, 2008 03:30 AM (Aa/qG)

85 Kos and DU are truly stockpiles of weapons-grade stupid, but they've blown away even their standards of idiocy on this one. There is no conspiracy theory that's too far-fetched for these jagoffs to invent/fall for if it would hurt a conservative.

One thing they didn't factor in this time, though, is Todd Palin. He doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that would just sit back and take this shit being said about his wife and kids for very long.

Wonder if leftwing douchebags sitting around in mom's basement posting on the Intarblogs would make good fish bait? You could probably at least chum with them.

Posted by: Andy at September 01, 2008 03:37 AM (8dVfR)

86

Having peddled this ridiculous and vicious smear, and fearing the "black eyes" this has given them, and how it has reduced (I shit you not) the "credibility" of DKos, the Kos Kids are now trying to find out... What Rovian Conspirator tricked us into believing this story?

Kos and credibility in the same sentence...you're kidding, right?

Posted by: billygoat at September 01, 2008 03:40 AM (vlmzk)

87 You should link to all of their stupidity. Otherwise they will deny it and say you made it up to distract from Bu$hHitler.

Posted by: Dirk at September 01, 2008 03:42 AM (U6EEk)

88 Andi demonstrates behavior typical of narcissistic, yet overly sensitive 14 and 15 year old girls.  Someone threatened the boy she desires, and the response is to talk shit about the person who poses the threat.  Putting thoughts in the minds of others, starting a runaway rumor train from which she can quickly jump after it starts cruising on its own.  But being immature, she gets out of hand and starts spreading the most incoherent and illogical nonsense.  When someone tries to call her on it, she says "I have claimed nothing." 

Posted by: bunny boy at September 01, 2008 03:50 AM (Xl2ep)

89 Can I just interject with some FACTS about pregnancy? First off, water breaks or it doesn't. There's no such thing as your water breaking without the baby being delivered. Once those membranes are breached, the baby comes, period. It RARELY happens as a big gush of water. The baby is head down in the eighth month and the head often acts like a cork, so you feel a slow leak. Once the membranes are breached, the baby has to be delivered, either by induction or natural labor. Otherwise, infection can set in. The typically accepted window is 24 hours. INDUCED can mean that there were no contractions and they started them with pitocin, or that there were some and they speeded it up with pitocin. Both scenarios are very common. And you can be in labor and now be aware of the contractions, even though they show up on the belly monitor. It's not at all unusual for a women to go to the hospital technically in labor, and have it speeded up with pitocin. Happens ALL THE TIME. Lastly, this was her FIFTH pregnancy. I think she had a good idea of what to expect, and a very good grasp on what would be considered "normal" and what might give her pause and cause her to contact her doctor.

Posted by: Elizabeth at September 01, 2008 04:07 AM (FJfon)

90

George Bush has had to put up with this same shit for eight years and it eventually took its toll.   It is a measure of just how thoroughly decent a man he is that he has never responded in kind.

If the right makes the same mistake by not driving these batshit insane Maoist mao mao'ers out of every discussion and back into their mother's basements then we will see the same in McCain's administration.

By the way, no one has mentioned the misspelling of svelte.  I think "svetle" is Swedish for "taint sweat."  Don't ask me how I know that...

Posted by: asl at September 01, 2008 04:20 AM (r11nM)

91 Palin Derangement Syndrom is the newest mental illness of the left.

Posted by: Reiver at September 01, 2008 04:20 AM (s7h/P)

92 ``Some of the elements from the previous smear are simply being recycled, but set in present rather than six months ago. Now, you see, the daughter is mysteriously absent from school, etc.''


Umm, it's summer vacation.  Everybody's out of school. 

Posted by: Annalucia at September 01, 2008 04:28 AM (OMiLl)

93

We should be gratedful for DU and Kos.  Without them the rest of the world would not know just how FUCKING CRAZY these COCKSUCKERS are.

Did Karl start Kos?  They both start with a K and well, you know, I am just saying.

Damn you KARL!

Posted by: kempermanx at September 01, 2008 04:28 AM (2+9Yx)

94 It doesn't matter if it's true or not. RUMOR IS TRUTH.

Someone get a screenshot of that in case they take it down.  It's an open admission to not caring about the truth of what they're pushing.  That's textbook "actual malice" and it's grounds to sue DU for libel for publishing this smear.

Posted by: Dave J at September 01, 2008 04:29 AM (qsGH+)

95 These leftist moonbat assholes are besides themselves with anger, hatred and a severe case of MPH (My pussy Hurts) since Palin was picked for VP.  They can't stand it that it has finally excited the conservative base.

What a bunch of whiney ass milky load takers.

Posted by: BillyBob at September 01, 2008 04:31 AM (v9vTw)

96 Kos used to have major Democrat figures posting at Kos, and I know they still do at HuffPo--Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, all of them post at HuffPo. I know that a lot of big Dems attended Yearly Kos this year. These Democrat leaders need to know that associating with Kos is just as toxic as associating with any other hate site, like Stormfront. Also, Kos' deranged conspiracy-mongering makes it the equivalent of sites like Alex Jones' infowars.com. Democrat leaders need to know this, and they should hold Kos accountable for their actions. Kos has no excuse for this, BTW. I know it's a big loose site, but it does have some standards; for example, 9/11 truthering is not allowed.

Posted by: stace at September 01, 2008 04:39 AM (JO0c/)

97 Kos has no excuse for this, BTW. I know it's a big loose site, but it does have some standards; for example, 9/11 truthering is not allowed.

Remember when Lee Stranahan got banned from Daily Kos for writing about the John Edwards scandal?

Yeah, standards.

Posted by: Jim62sch at September 01, 2008 05:05 AM (ubHgw)

98

Elizabeth, I have to correct you slightly.

I delivered my first child via emergency C-section.  I was a week past my due date, with seemgly nothing wrong; but an examination determined that almost all of the amniotic fluid had absorbed into my body.  This is a critical situation for the baby.  They sent me to the hospital immediately and induced labor, but the baby was lying on the umbilical cord and the contractions were suffocating him.  So they had to go in and get him.

So sometimes babies are born without any "water breaking." 

People watch too much TV and think they know everything about babies and childbirth.  There are a million possible wrinkles to every pregnancy and birth.  There is leakage, false labor, all sorts of things that can happen.

In fact, it's pretty clear that the whole Palin baby smear was lifted entirely from a storyline of "Desperate Housewives."  Of course, these nutjobs think all Republican women are just like Bree Van de Kamp, so of course it is completely plausible to them.  I think this is the way we demolish them - expose them as a bunch of stupid TV-obsessed losers.  Of course, their Dear Leader liefted half of his acceptance speech from "The American President" so I guess even taking crap from TV shows is A-OK with them if it hurts the Repugs.

 

Posted by: rockmom at September 01, 2008 05:07 AM (iZqUY)

99

I am pretty sure I read somewhere that Kos himself is a poofter.  So doesn't it seem logical that whole story where his wife lost a baby was made up?  Medical records, dammit!

Awesome sauce for the gander.

Posted by: blaster at September 01, 2008 05:24 AM (KpEAZ)

Posted by: Socky at September 01, 2008 05:29 AM (d2fuu)

101

Leftists are always claiming that we're the evil ones, yet I don't remember any rumors about Obama committing incest with his two daughters.

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at September 01, 2008 05:29 AM (v4s/2)

102

"What the FUCK is wrong with these people?  Never in my life have I even heard that there was -any- reason a pregnant woman shouldn't get on a plane.  WTF."

An OB/GYN will typically recommend that you don't travel far from home during your last six weeks of pregnancy, just in case.  The time window varies with the OB.  I think it's mostly a CYA recommendation on their part, so if you end up delivering your babe early in an airplane, you don't blame the doc.  Or so they don't miss out on their cut ($$) for the delivery.

 

Posted by: April at September 01, 2008 05:32 AM (eTi94)

103 WHY WON'T THEY JUST TAKE THEIR MEDS?

It's just 5 or 6 little pills every day!

You know, I am not big on abortion. But If I had a time machine and a dKos user registration list....

Posted by: Robert at September 01, 2008 05:33 AM (cabV5)

104

Masturbatin' Pete's birthday is coming up, and Mrs. Pete looks a little like Sarah Palin. Not as close as Tina Fey, but more conservative than the tedious Ms. Fey, so it works out pretty well.

Really Pete, show some respect: it's Governor Palin and you best not forget her title. Must be something in the air; watch how many times people in the media forget her title while talking about her.

Posted by: MamaAJ at September 01, 2008 05:43 AM (X6Zdh)

105

Leftists are always claiming that we're the evil ones, yet I don't remember any rumors about Obama committing incest with his two daughters.

well, since I have learned to make crap up to, just like KKKidies, those arent Obama's daughters, they are his brothers's - Obama sent his brother to Africa and forced to live in a newspaperhut on $1 a month as punishment for making Michelle proud to have known him.

At least twice.  

Posted by: Victer at September 01, 2008 05:45 AM (Ap/d0)

106 Svetle?  Is that some sort of Scandi term I've never heard before?

Posted by: ThomasD at September 01, 2008 05:51 AM (21H5U)

107 Dr Goebbels would be so proud of the DK and DU people They'e learned his lessons so well. Question: Do you automatically get a Brown Shirt when you post on their websites, or are they slimey scum-sucking capitalists and make you buy one? Oh, and do they give out a Goebbels Medal for the best "rumor is truth" of the week?

Posted by: GarandFan at September 01, 2008 06:00 AM (eJ32B)

108 Frankly, this "whose baby is it?" stupidity will only cement support for Palin. Even people who won't vote for her will feel sorry for her. You don't attack a woman's kids in politics. If this meme ever breaks out into the MSM, I expect Senator Hopenchange and Biden to nuke it from orbit because they know quite well that it only reflects badly on them.

I do hope that the GOP strategists sat down with the Palin family and explained to them how ugly this campaign was going to get. They seem like nice folks, and this kind of bile and rumor-mongering has to be very unpleasant to them. And Mr. Palin seems like the kind of guy who would take imprecations against his wife and daughter badly. (And good on him for that!)

However, from a purely political perspective, this latest bit of conspiracy-theorizing from the Left simply illustrates yet again the panic into which they have been thrown by Palin's selection. What should have been a slam-dunk election has instead turned into a terrifying knife-fight that they just might lose. Their pipsqueak "community organizer" and senatorial war-horse are going up against a bonafide war-hero and a woman who embodies everything they hate. You can smell the stink of their fear rising out of the op-eds and blog posts.

This doesn't mean that the GOP ticket is bound for a win in November, however. I still think the election is Obama's to lose. The Donks are highly motivated while the GOP is still somewhat fractured, and this election (like the last one) is going to hinge on turnout. I do think that Palin has  turned an almost-certain defeat for the GOP into a fighting chance at victory.

Posted by: Monty at September 01, 2008 06:10 AM (dCZbI)

109

>DailyKos and other reality based sites

yes- in Bizarro World

Posted by: Jones at September 01, 2008 06:16 AM (VkNlv)

110 Helpin' a brother out:

THANK YOU!

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at September 01, 2008 06:19 AM (qPHMe)

111 So a bit of nasty honesty there -- "I don't care that this isn't true, I'm just going to keep making up wilder and more vicious nonsense because I hate 'repugs.'"

And yet they insist that Karl Rove must have originated of all these rumors to make them look bad.

There's just no way they could have punched themselves in the eye.

Posted by: lauraw at September 01, 2008 06:27 AM (DbybK)

112 You're all missing the real story here:

That is not a real baby!!!! 
It's an automaton that was created to get the idiot soccer/hockey moms to buy into the "Palin" mystique.  And to cover for the inability of this "baby" to talk or walk yet, like every normal REAL baby would be doing by now, they told everyone it's got Down's Syndrome (like that's a real disease....  come on!!)

IT'S ALL JUST ANOTHER LIE CREATED BY THE BUSH/HALLIBURTON/CHENEY DEATH MACHINE, SHEEPLE!

Posted by: reality-based-commuinty member in good standing at September 01, 2008 06:29 AM (EW49d)

113 Bet none of this weasels have the stones to travel to a McCain rally and ask Todd Palin about his daughter? Wanna bet the questioner would need Secret Service protection?

Me thinks milky loads would find United Steelworkers stamped to his forehead.

Posted by: The Opinionator at September 01, 2008 06:31 AM (j2wCU)

114 "Frankly, this "whose baby is it?" stupidity will only cement support for Palin. Even people who won't vote for her will feel sorry for her" It certainly reminds me of who I'm voting against.

Posted by: Sarahw at September 01, 2008 06:33 AM (7sl9X)

115 If this meme ever breaks out into the MSM, I expect Senator Hopenchange and Biden to nuke it from orbit because they know quite well that it only reflects badly on them.

Someone needs to tell Milky Loads and his boyfriend Markos that they cannot win on this one.  These unbelievably disgusting attacks already eliminate any doubts that they are truly the scum of the earth, but if she drops out because of this, then they are reeeeally gonna regret it

Posted by: wiserbud at September 01, 2008 06:35 AM (EW49d)

116

IT IS irresponsible for her to, while pregnant, board an airplane. The pressure changes at high altitudes are just not something you play around with. In the 8th and 9th month of pregnancy, for her own safety as well as the safety of the fetus, it is imperative that the mother remain in the kitchen.

Also, do you see those unsupportive shoes she is wearing? That kind of footwear changes one's standing posture and can put pressure on the abdominal area potentially crushing the fetus! Who does she think she's getting all tramped up for 8 months pregnant with those fuckme shoes? Most OBGYNs actually reccommend an expectant mother not wear any shoes.

Posted by: Progressive Feminist Male at September 01, 2008 06:49 AM (HgAV0)

117

How hard is it to alter a website? Not at all. The Achorage Daily News CLAIMS the family picture was taken in 2006 and those other pics of the allegedly pregnant Govenor are obviously pillow-suits. The fact is Bush controls the media and he ordered ADN to alter the dates on the Bristol picture under threat of sending the editors to Gitmo for crimes against the state. That way he can protect the Palin candidacy so McCain can mysteriously be killed-off mere months into his presidency and l'il Miss Beauty Queen can assume the top position (the one that got her the VP slot in the first place if you know what I mean) and and like a good subservient fundie-Christian housewife stop any criminal probes of Bush, Cheney, Rummy and the rest of the rethuglicans.

J/k. Had you guys going there, eh? Seriously though: how long until we start hearing this tripe.

Posted by: Mr Snuggle Bunny at September 01, 2008 06:50 AM (Q/ZWV)

118 I am a Registered Nurse and worked in OB for four years. For the uneducated, the reason why the airlines would not permit a woman who is in her eighth month of pregnancy or beyond is because, if she should deliver in route, the airlines would have to assist the delivery and they might incur some liability. It is not because flying harms the baby!! Did you Bozo's get that..?? Another point...in Alaska, the airplane is the car. Capisci..!!

Posted by: Mary RN at September 01, 2008 06:50 AM (vt8OU)

119 SHUTUP KARL ROVE!

Posted by: Progressive Feminist Male at September 01, 2008 06:57 AM (HgAV0)

120 Ace, Why are you allowing all of these TROLLS...and I mean trolls in the worst way possible.... to infiltrate your site and attempt to muddy the reputation of this wonderful woman? Governor Sarah Palin is to be admired for being able to be an obviously good mother and a mayor, then governor. She is someone who has been in politics not out of greed but to make things better in the place that she lives and loves for her family and her neighbors. She took on the good old boy political machine of her own party. Some of us women have trouble taking on the "good old boys" in our work environment. She is a real woman and beyond. She has faced the challenge of living in Alaska, the last Frontier of the USA and she makes the women of America PROUD, PROUD, PROUD (that is except the jealous harpies who want us to live under a communist government and who really want to be men.) She shows us that women can be respected, that they can fight, hunt, take on the 'big boys' and still be women. I totally dig the shoes. I can't wear them because I have flat feet but they look great on our next Vice-President! and by the way, to the uneducated troll in response # 124....high heels make be uncomfortable to wear(personal opinion), they may be hazardous if you are not adept at maneuvering in them...but as an OB RN with an education, I can factually tell you that they in no way cause internal harm to the fetus! Get an education before you mouth off and criticize a women we would all love to be.

Posted by: Mary RN at September 01, 2008 07:05 AM (vt8OU)

121 #127... Thank you for your polite response. I guess I hit the nail on the head.

Posted by: Mary RN at September 01, 2008 07:08 AM (vt8OU)

122 Elizabeth and Rockmom:

Clearly you both have experience at this childbirth "thing". But just because  you've squirted out kids does not make you more of an authority than Dr. Alan Colmes, who is a Jew just like Eric Cantor.

By the way, how much duct tape does  it take to immobilize Todd Palin , thereby saving the lives of countless numbnutted moonbats?  Surely, at this point, someone in this world knows. 

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 01, 2008 07:11 AM (u7nyh)

123 Monty, Alaska politics is anything but nice.  Stevens and his ilk have had no problem trying to destroy anyone who dared question them in the past.

Palin has not only survived, but thrived in that environment. 

Water off a ducks back.

Posted by: mesablue at September 01, 2008 07:13 AM (5yNaE)

124 RN must stand for Rightwing Nutjob!

Posted by: Progressive Feminist Male at September 01, 2008 07:15 AM (HgAV0)

125 The Palin family just released a statement that Bristol is pregnant and plans to keep the baby.

Posted by: sauropod at September 01, 2008 07:16 AM (J9J4M)

126 Another thought:  We've all heard of the "Chicago Way", which has been alluded to by the Bullshit and Buffoon ticket.

Did you know that the "Alaska Way" developed because ice forms at about 3 inches an hour in -20 weather?  Just sayin'.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 01, 2008 07:17 AM (u7nyh)

127 Wow.

Posted by: mesablue at September 01, 2008 07:17 AM (5yNaE)

128 The nutroots are going to twist the daughter's pregnancy in some sick and twisted ways.


Posted by: mesablue at September 01, 2008 07:19 AM (5yNaE)

129 Damn.

Posted by: Entropy at September 01, 2008 07:22 AM (HgAV0)

130 I'm afraid there will be joy in Mudville (a.k.a. DKos) over this.

Posted by: sauropod at September 01, 2008 07:24 AM (J9J4M)

131 Palin goes from MILF to GILF.

Sorry. Had to go there.

Posted by: mesablue at September 01, 2008 07:29 AM (5yNaE)

132 I hate to say it, but I know few people who get married without there already being issue. My own daughter included.That is the way of the world anymore.

This will play very well in Peoria.

Posted by: Robin at September 01, 2008 07:31 AM (94LBn)

133

Just read that Reuters story. This takes Kos' babygate threads and turns them up to 11. The bastards.

 

Posted by: Jones at September 01, 2008 07:37 AM (VkNlv)

134 Let's just cut to the chase.  These vile things have jettisoned all decency, all humanity -- everything but insane hatred and obscene abuse.

So why not give them what they really want?  We all know how they loathe themselves, how they console themselves for their miserable, dysfunctional lives with comforting myths about being "victims of oppression."  So let's oppress them.  We've got guns and axes and rope -- let's just start fucking killing these sons of bitches.

They've turned politics into a sewer, they romanticize terrorists and constantly blather about "taking it to the streets."  They constantly accuse conservatives of being murderous redneck thugs -- let's give them the martyrdom they long for.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 01, 2008 07:39 AM (x5VrF)

135

So Bristol Palin is preganant at 17 and will soon marry the father.  Gov. Palin and her husband have asked the media to respect her family's privacy on this issue and leave her children out of the political campaign.  

Sorry Sarah, but it will only get worse.  In this poisonous environment the left will only salivate like starving, sick wolves and keep going after you and your family. 

No matter how much I dislike Barry Obama I would never condone or take part in the bashing of his children.   How sick this has all become.

Posted by: Nurse Cheri at September 01, 2008 07:43 AM (cz6lG)

136

Mr. Rove,

Great Job getting Tougher In Alaska on TV just in time for the Palin VP Express.

KRYMB!!!eleven!

Posted by: turtle at September 01, 2008 07:54 AM (ZiZaA)

137

"The Palins asked the news media to respect the young couple's privacy"

Let me know how that works out...

Posted by: Jones at September 01, 2008 07:55 AM (VkNlv)

138 The more vile your opposition, the more obvious it is right to oppose them.

Posted by: Merovign at September 01, 2008 08:08 AM (GZvl/)

139 Return comment for MR # 129 IF YOU COULD OR WOULD BOTHER TO READ... RN= Registered Nurse

Posted by: Mary RN at September 01, 2008 08:13 AM (vt8OU)

140

I love this fucking lunacy from the piece of shit Reuters article:

"MCCAIN KNEW

Senior McCain campaign officials said McCain knew of the daughter's pregnancy when he selected Palin last week as his vice presidential running mate, deciding that it did not disqualify the 44-year-old governor in any way."

Because, how exactly could ths possibly disqualify Palin for the VP slot?  Because she didn't lock her daughters into Chastity Belts when they came of age? 

Really.  Isn't it time we started those concentration camps for these lunatics? 

Posted by: Sharkman at September 01, 2008 08:13 AM (UioS4)

141

From Kos thread, reacting to Palin daughter pregnant:

 

>how could she do this to her daughter.

>Doesn't this mean the infant is the uncle
of the other infant?

>Do not let this story drop!  Palin needs to take heat for this until she states that Abstinence only DOES NOT WORK!!!!

>Good grief, is no one here capable of decency?


>And, anyway, I don't care that her daughter is pregnant and they tried to keep it quiet. I don't blame her for that. The daughter is legally a MINOR, and minors ought to be out of bounds. God, I'm so ashamed.


17 y.o. mothers
44 y.o. grandmothers
(White trash? Or is that going too far?)
Yee haw.


This is none of our business.  I'm beginning to be ashamed of this site.

 

And that was just from the first 100 comments or so. The thread is over 1000 comments and increasing at an exponential rate as the leftards weigh in.


Posted by: Jones at September 01, 2008 08:26 AM (VkNlv)

142 To Progressive Feminist Male First off, there is no such thing as your name title. Second, YOU'VE BEEN HAD!!! Way to go Mary RN!! Your comments are smack on! PALIN ROCKS!! I refuse to listen to any of this malarky about her or her precious family. They're awesome and God bless them for being so brave as to join in and save America!! Can't wait for November!! YEE HAW!!!

Posted by: Whoooot at September 01, 2008 08:35 AM (vt8OU)

143 You could probably at least chum with them.

Time to start a ToddPalinFacts.com website:

Todd Palin endearingly calls all of his enemies, "Chum."

Posted by: Joan of Argghh! at September 01, 2008 08:50 AM (eDdOG)

144

So Drudge reporting Biden had 5 deferments (it was totally legit- Asthmas a bitch) to get out of Vietnam

But hell send our children to Afghanistan and Pakistan to die for oil. CHICKENHAWK

Whats good for the goose, etc you fucking leftist hipocrit cocksuckers

Posted by: TMF at September 01, 2008 08:53 AM (/YM8H)

145 The whole picture not showing up thing is really really getting annoying.  Old blog to see pics, new blog to see comments.  Anyone have an answer? 

And I am totally sick of the crazies with their pregnancy conspiracies.  If I was married to Todd you better believe I'd have at least five, if not more.

Posted by: Maureen at September 01, 2008 09:36 AM (7QqRB)

146

Second, YOU'VE BEEN HAD!!!

Irony! Irony Will Robinson!

Posted by: Entropy at September 01, 2008 09:52 AM (HgAV0)

147

You'd think that the Kosmonauts would refrain from trashing a kid with Down's out of sensitivity for Markos.

Those mutants are bloodless.

Posted by: VJay at September 01, 2008 10:34 AM (kico6)

148 Check out these crazies... I finally posted toward the end.

I was looking at this site last night.

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/off-to-the-land-of-palin/

I just keep saying, they should keep it up - it will work out great for them.

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