November 29, 2005
— Ace Good piece from Lorie Byrd about Democrats who say, with some degree of pride, that they never acted to remove Saddam Hussein despite believing him to be a threat.
As Lorie says, it's a simple question. All intelligence is, by its nature, vague, fragmentary, and open to multiple interpretations. After 9/11, should our instinct be to act upon worrisome but incomplete information, or to refrain from acting?
Before 9/11, the nation did the former. And the Democratic Party wants to continue that policy. Because, you know, that worked so beautifully for us during the 80's, 90's, and early 00's.
The Democratic Party
Our national security policy is taking the old "wait and see" attitude. After all, what's the worse that could happen?
Before the invention of the airplane...
you could wait, cuz it took weeks to get troops to the next country...
Before the creation of the atomic bomb...
you could wait, cuz it took lots of airplanes to destory a city...
Now, a whole city could be gone in a flash...
Since the entire world was convinced that Saddam was a threat with his WMD...
responsible leaders acted.
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Posted by: L.A. ex-dem at November 30, 2005 03:34 AM (lKHOS)
Posted by: ErrinF at November 30, 2005 01:11 PM (AT/Vn)
Wow. Can we analyze this unique stlye of writing? I have never seen "LOL" used in such a manner. ErrinF has done something that most writers only dream about -- put their voices inside the reader's head. I actually heard ErrinF laughing out loud. It sounded like Mwahahaha Mwaaaaahahahaha
Hey Errinf, did you watch President Bush's speech on television today? It was great, huh?
Posted by: Bart at November 30, 2005 01:29 PM (zg9BE)
One side reasons; the other side sounds like young ErrinF.
His post should not anger you - it should make you smile. It is the ultimate proof that poor ErrinF is losing .... and knows it.
As long as liberals are spewing their infantile hate .... I know something is right in the world. When they get quiet or start sounding rational -- that's when I'll worry.
Thanks, ErrinF -- for reminding us all of the obvious truth. Please post again soon, okay?
Posted by: Professor Blather at November 30, 2005 01:52 PM (tZNNg)
Well, aside from leading the free world, packing Congress with our guys, directing a free market economy to great new heights, and winning, winning, winning every. single. time.
Yeah, other than that we're a bunch of losers.
We just come here to bolster our low self esteem. Which we got from all the winning.
Posted by: lauraw at November 30, 2005 03:18 PM (ywZa8)
We'll take the old tried and tested "wait and see approach."
Yeah, that's the ticket.
These guys are a trip, aren't they.
Posted by: Dan at November 30, 2005 05:24 PM (pChIO)
Liked that brief post too.
Hey, all you libs, we're getting real tired of winning so often, so why don't you libs do something about it. I mean it gets awful tiresome having to win that much.
Nixon won over 40 states, Reagan won first 44, then followed that up by taking 49. GHWB too, got over 40 states.
And as for GW, well he is the first guy to get a genuine majority of the vote since your guy Carter eeked one out way back in '76, when he had the advantages of Watergate, the Nixon pardon and the dreadful aftermath of 'Nam and the ongoing Culture wars.
That's why the Dems need to hightail it to the Courts. That's the only place they can be sure they will find a receptive ear.
Posted by: Dan at November 30, 2005 05:29 PM (pChIO)
"As long as liberals are spewing their infantile hate .... I know something is right in the world."
Might I point out this post from a little earlier?
"When are we going to slit the troat of the lying liberal media?? And the treasonous Dimocraps."
I think ErrinF's post kind of pales in comparison, don't you? It's rare that I see someone post a liberal viewpoint here without being met by resoponses ranging from threats of violence to plain old hateful invective.
And lauraw, is "we won, we won," all you really have to offer? Yes, you guys are in control. Losing the popular vote in 2000, then winning by one of the smallest margins in history in 2004 hardly means the whole world has become Republican, especially when you consider that the only thing that kept the Republicans from a net loss of seats in the last election was Tom DeLay's gerrymandering. I'm not one to predict victory with still a year to go until the elections, so let's just say enjoy it while it lasts. The pendulum swings both ways.
Posted by: Chris at November 30, 2005 07:22 PM (80Sf7)
When Lauraw is serious, she can debate you into the ground. But since Lauraw has something you lack, a sense of humor and a personality, she doesn't need to waste her time with people like ErrinF who got exactly the response that was warranted.
Chris, I tried to explain this to the asshole once and I'll try it again with you, when commenters make sincere comments, agreeing or disagreeing, they will responded to in kind at AoS.
Conversely, if a commenter is a rude prick or a nasty troll, they shall be treated as such.
BTW, and I mean this sincerely, it is rather foolish trying to belittle the wins from the last two elections. If the shoe was on the other foot, you'd think the same thing -- a win is a win.
Posted by: Bart at November 30, 2005 07:43 PM (EixHX)
Well, excuse us. When you all start making actual points instead of repeating the same tired soundbites over and over again, maybe we'll start to take your "arguments" seriously.
Until then, mockery and invective are what a lot of liberals have given for the last five years, and it's what they're going to get from us in return.
Posted by: Edward R. Murrow at December 01, 2005 03:44 AM (R8+nJ)
It's inevitable that every thread will have one of you guys saying "But Bush lied!" or "Rove did it" or some other pithy comment that's supposed to pass as satire. Do you realize how many dozens of times I've seen similar posts in the relatively short time I've been coming here? And how many times I've seen references to how brilliant the regulars are?
A telling point was when personal information about Tubino was posted. I'm not trying to dredge up an old issue. Rather, what I found interesting was that Ace referred to Tubino as a troll. Fine, you don't like his points and don't think he argues honestly. But he does post links he's researched, and returns to threads to counter arguments. It appears the only thing that qualifies him as a troll is that he's from the other side of the aisle. Do ytou even know what a troll is? Perhaps he should have his throat slit.
Posted by: at December 01, 2005 05:42 PM (80Sf7)
Perhaps you mean a "telling moment."
No personal information about the troll was posted, only a link to a website on the WWW, a city, and an occupation. I'm sure you'll argue that that is personal.
Ace referred to Tubino as a troll.
Ace is accurate with his designation.
[Tubino] does post links he's researched,
That's what makes him a troll. He spams the site with links to other liberal sites and blogs. It doesn't help his argument like you say, it makes him look like an ass.
Do ytou even know what a troll is?
Yes, a troll is someone like Tubino. We've covered that already.
Perhaps he should have his throat slit.
Well, he is a dispicable person. His gross enthusiasm to demoralize the war effort at every turn that American soldiers are dying for is reprehensible. But I'll leave the throat slitting of unarmed, peace-niks, the Islamofascists.
Your entire post is a clear indication of your jealously and of someone with a lot of spare time on his hands. Yes, it's true that we are by and large a happy who like each other. Unoriginal? Nah, you know that's not true or you wouldn't be so upset that you've been rejected.
Take a long hard look in the mirror some time and ask yourself if this site sucks so much, why waste your time with us dim bulbs?
Chances are you either Tubino or Chris.
You know the deal. You can't stomp into a site with the opposite ideology, run your mouth, drop links, try to piss on corn flakes and then feign indignation with complaints of lousy treatment.
I can't imagine me going to the DU or Atrios and telling everyone there how wrong they are, and how stupid they are, and then complain that I wasn't liked or treated well.
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