March 31, 2010

Letterman Interviews Tea Party Leader
& Grand Unified Theory of Everything Political

— Ace

Before the link, let me say why this was such a bad move on Letterman's part, assuming he's still on Team Obama. If you don't want to read a lot of noodling, skip to the link and video at the end. At least 50% -- and for some, as much as 95% -- of politics is primal. Tribal. Gut-level. Lizard-brain. For those without much by way of some kind of rationalizing ideology, politics is mostly group identification and empathy. The "Shares Your Values" thing. The "Would Like to Have a Beer With" thing.

Part of this is simply non-rational. A pure matter of likability, of seeing oneself in another, or at least enough of oneself to feel a sympathetic pang. Part of it is pre-rational -- not entirely emotional, but based upon the weak assumption (often wrong) that If a guy seems to "be like me," he must also share my political values and will more often than not represent my personal interests in the scrum of competing interests we call politics."

Successful politicians are often -- almost always, really; one struggles to find a contrary example -- able to appeal to those who should be opposed to them, based on purely rational inputs (past voting history, stated positions, rhetorical priorities) to nevertheless support them based on non-rational or pre-rational inputs -- a general sense of a guy as one of your own.

Non-ideological independents are, well, non-ideological, and tend to be deeply suspicious of those who are strongly ideological. Partly due to their ideology of not having much of an ideology, and partly due to sub-rational reasons: People who are strongly ideological are "not like me" and therefore viewed with antipathy.

Bill O'Reilly, by the way, is that kind of guy. He's forever running down people like Laura Ingraham for the great sin of having some sort of intellectual framework for their political impulses. But some people are just distrustful of abstract thinking, at least when it seems (to them) to be elevating a theoretical construct over "the real world."

A good example of a politician able to satisfy both the ideological and non-ideological through contradictory communications was Sarah Palin, at least when she burst onto the scene in September 2008.

I always thought Palin's obvious crackling sexuality was a net plus for her, but not the way the media and leftists (but I repeat myself) thought. My theory was that while much of the rational inputs on her said "strong social conservative/traditionalist," she also grabbed part of the electorate that would usually be disinclined to vote for such a candidate because her looks and body language -- that semi-sexual wink -- said something a little different.

Good Girl, her rational-level communications said. But not too good, her sub-rational communications caveated. A little dangerous. A little wild.

Thus -- assuming I'm right, which you're free not to do -- she did what most successful politicians did. She secured one group of voters on a rational level (this would be her base) and another group of voters on a sub-rational level (this would be persuadable conservative-tilting nonideological independents for whom a strong ideology in either direction is usually a turnoff). Without actually lying -- she never denied being a social conservative, after all -- she managed to send two different signals to two different groups and convince both of them she was, again, "one of them."

Now, you may think I'm crazy to put so much emphasis on a wink, and who knows, maybe I am. But I think that many independents have that media-approved stereotype of conservatives as sexually frigid and judgmental, and Sarah Palin's obvious comfort with her womanly charms short-circuited that stereotype from taking hold. She also had the Alaska factor working for her -- an exotic place, the closest thing America still has to a Wild West of broad-shouldered men and whip-smart women -- and that too made her seem to be not just your standard-issue heartland conservative.

She had a strong ideology, but many non-ideological independents got the the idea that she wasn't married to it.

Part of the reason I'm no longer sold on Palin, by the way, is my belief she's now lost this critical ability to grab up another group, and she's now a politician with pure base appeal and little beyond that. But I digress.

An even better example of this is none other than Barack Hussein Obama, a guy who once belonged to the explicitly leftist New Party, a man with the most liberal voting record in the Senate, a man who daily promised vaguely to transform America in revolutionary -- radical -- ways, but who nevertheless garnered the support of Polite Company Conservatives because he could quote Niebhur and had neatly-creased pants. No one of such temperate mein and Harvard credentials could really be a radical, after all. Such a man was civilized and reasonable -- how could he be anything but? Again, look to the telling trouser crease -- and no matter how clearly his rational-level verbal communications said "radical," people like David Brooks and Chris Buckley nevertheless became convinced he represented some sort of Return to Burkean Conservatism.

Not to belabor the point, but: Impeccably creased pantleg. It amuses me that David Brooks is still bewildered at Sarah Palin's subliminal appeal, even as he still proudly supports a radical leftist on the basis that his maid is a wiz with a steam-iron.

Newt Gingrich, back when he was Speaker, gave seminars to conservative candidates on how to win elections, and he highlighted the importance of describing one's opponent (or his ideas at least) as (and I quote) "bizarre," "weird," and alien. (Not sure if that last one was used, but that was the idea.) This is the flip-side of appealing to the "One of Us" feeling -- portraying your opponent as "Not One of You."

Now, of course, the media engages in similar political rhetoric on a daily basis in the service of its cherished liberal party. The media is heavily invested in the Weird, Dangerous, Alien narratives when discussing the Tea Party. That is the biggest reason for the constant denigration of Tea Partiers as racist, homophobic, ugly, uneducated, zombie-like, etc. The media is always trying to paint Tea Partiers as "Not One of You" to discourage people from joining in the cause or viewing their claims as legitimate.

Also remember how CNN described the Coffee Parties. Did they deploy their "Weird, Dangerous, Alien" storyline in describing this group of mutant Obama Zombies? Oh dearie me no. For groups CNN likes and wishes to promote, it employs the "One of Us" Narrative.

- In one chair sits a rural retiree, his financial security shot in the slump, a humble Southerner who's never thought much about politics. In another seat is a born Northerner, an inner-city native, a relative of a civil rights giant. And nearby, circling a table, are an economist, an artist, a onetime John McCain supporter and a long-haired guy who's rich in Woodstock memories.

Meet these members of the Coffee Party Movement, an organically grown, freshly brewed push that's marking its official kickoff Saturday. Across the country, even around the globe, they and other Americans in at least several hundred communities are expected to gather in coffeehouses to raise their mugs of java to something new.

They're professionals, musicians and housewives. They're frustrated liberal activists, disheartened conservatives and political newborns. They're young and old, rich and poor, black, white and all shades of other.

One suspects that "frustrated liberals" were more represented there than "disheartened conservatives," and that there were rather more "long haired guys rich in Woodstock memories" than "humble Southerners." Nevertheless, CNN's clearly-editorializing rhetoric was to portray the Coffee Party in the most diverse terms possible so that the greatest numbers of readers could see themselves in it.

This is the exact rhetorical template the media used throughout the War to describe anti-war protesters -- The Inclusive List of Attractive Nouns People Use to Describe Themselves. Every anti-war protest, the media informed me, was composed of veterans, mothers with infants in tow, grandmothers, schoolteachers, foremen, and people who were never in their whole lives particularly political or ideological but just now decided they had to take to the streets.

In other words -- People Just Like You!!!! Heck, you might even be one of them -- check, again, that long string of broadly-inclusive nouns which almost certainly include you, because, of course, it was specifically designed to capture as many people in as possible in its gigantic Venn circles. Hey, protesting the war is something that lightly-ideological independents such as yourselves should probably do, too!

On the other hand... Well, those Tea Partiers. Not only do they tote guns while they carry threatening and/or weird signs -- Obama is Hitler -- but they're all white. That portrayal isn't there just to screen out minorities and make sure no minorities don't join up with the Tea Party; it's mostly there to make sure that whites who do not consider themselves racist, and who would be uncomfortable joining an expressly all-white racialist movement, don't get any ideas that maybe these Tea Partiers are like them.

So that's the media's template -- the left is portrayed by using the most broadly inclusive nouns, expressing the most broadly palatable and vague ideology. (All the CNN pieces on the Coffee Party refuse to divulge the Coffee Party is leftist and insist it is a centrist group concerned only with non-ideological concerns such as fair process and clean politics.)

The right is portrayed by using the narrowest possible categorical nouns and their ideology is represented as specifically as possible (to discourage those who don't share those particular views) and the Weirdness Factor is highlighted-- just in case some of those specific positions are actually attractive to a lot of people, the Weirdness Factor ought to keep you away.

All right. All that set-up, most of it obvious, to set up Letterman's ill-advised interview with this woman.

Not only did this woman clearly come to play-- she makes a great rational case for Tea Party politics -- but on a sub-rational level, well, she's Just Like You, isn't she? She never before was particularly political (Just Like You), she's just a normal, patriotic American woman (Just Like You), and she was embarrassed to have to nominate herself for the Tea Party group's presidency (Just Like You -- hey, we all hate public speaking, don't we?).

Plus, her husband was supposed to nominate her (she's married -- Just Like You) but apparently he didn't get around to doing so (she loves the big lug but sometimes her husband can be so exasperating about doing chores -- Just Like You).

Here's the video (working link to CBS site): Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3. Parts 1 and 2 are the more important parts. In Part 3 he starts challenging her, which is fine, because she ably argues back, but it's Part 1 and 2 where she makes the strongest case for herself (and therefore the movement).

It's the fact that Tea Partiers, when allowed to present themselves on both a human and political level, will tend to acquit themselves rather well that keeps the media from doing this at all. But the movement is getting big enough that not even the hyperpartisan Obama-lover David Letterman can resist the ratings-bait of doing so.

That's a problem for the media, and for Obama, and for liberals generally.

But I repeat myself, as usual.


Video Pulled For Terms of Use Violation: Well that didn't take them long.

As I was saying, I guess.

I put the CBS videos up.

Posted by: Ace at 09:34 AM | Comments (99)
Post contains 1971 words, total size 13 kb.

1

I think CNN pushed the "coffee party" because it was made up of all 5 people who still watch CNN. 

 

btw, notice how quickly it disapeared?  (just like CNN)

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 31, 2010 09:46 AM (T1boi)

2

maybe Dave just realized he needs to find a new audience..?

 

Posted by: Ira at March 31, 2010 09:46 AM (bJm7W)

3 That is concise.

Posted by: Rat Patrol at March 31, 2010 09:46 AM (dQdrY)

4 Didn't take 'em long to pull it....

Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at March 31, 2010 09:46 AM (mt2Ts)

5 We don't read any of your shit Ace - we're just here for the threads.

Posted by: 57 States at March 31, 2010 09:47 AM (kbH+o)

6

Vid pulled.

Oh,well... so much for freedom of speech, open and honest debate, etc.

Shocked and stuff.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 31, 2010 09:49 AM (i3AsK)

7 Barack Hussein Obama, a guy who once belonged to the explicitly leftist socialist New Party, a man with the most liberal voting record in the Senate, a man who daily promised vaguely to transform America in revolutionary -- radical -- ways,

FIFY

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 31, 2010 09:50 AM (mHQ7T)

8 CBS Link to part 1
Brief ad plays first.

The other parts are listed at the bottom of the page.

Posted by: Plum Guile at March 31, 2010 09:51 AM (w8ddH)

9 Read her facebook notes.

Posted by: Dan at March 31, 2010 09:52 AM (1jzSs)

10 Pulled for terms of use?  Bastards.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at March 31, 2010 09:52 AM (otlXg)

11 Since Ace doesn't really understand how the internet works and much about copyright infringement, I'll post the links here to the CBS website where you can actually watch the interview:

Part1:

Part 2:

Part 3:

Enjoy.

Posted by: someguywhounderstandstheinternet at March 31, 2010 09:53 AM (VRJIW)

12 Video's been pulled already.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 31, 2010 09:53 AM (mHQ7T)

13 Err, once more with feeling.

CBS link


http://tinyurl.com/yeorzlu

Posted by: Plum Guile at March 31, 2010 09:53 AM (w8ddH)

14 Pulled for terms of use?  Bastards.

Why wouldn't the author just link directly to, or even better yet, directly embed, the CBS show player?

Jesus Christ, this isn't rocket fucking science.

It would be nice if we had some political operatives who understand emerging technologies and aren't befuddled by them. It's no wonder we're being crushed by our political opponents when our leaders don't have three clues.

Posted by: someguywhoknowsabouttheinternet at March 31, 2010 09:55 AM (VRJIW)

15

An excellent post, as usual.  Dehumanizing the Right is the favorite tactic of the Left - we see it so often, and are so used to it, that we tend to forget how important it is in the overall struggle.  We need to learn to do the same.  Constantly pulling our punches and listening to Mom's advice about not saying mean things - that's getting us nowhere.  Time to point out the simple truth.  Relative to most Americans, it's the leftards who are the weirdos.  It's Liberals you can't trust around your kids.  They're the ones who want to change what your church preaches, and how your government runs.  They're the ones who want to change how you live.  And they're the ones who encourage your neighbor to act like a wierdo, too. 

 

Posted by: Reactionary at March 31, 2010 09:55 AM (xUM1Q)

16 Always laughed at the DemSM "lifetime republicans" who were interviewed. Google the name and they showed up in multiple articles at multiple times, and somehow happened to be longtime lefty activists.

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2010 09:56 AM (sYxEE)

17 This woman's the leader of the Sandpoint, Idaho chapter. Sarah Palin is from there. That's no coincidence.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 31, 2010 09:56 AM (mHQ7T)

18 Shit, I shouldn't have read your piece first -- I missed the vid!

Nice post, though. 

Posted by: Y-not at March 31, 2010 09:57 AM (Kn9r7)

19 Ace, This is probably the best post of yours I've read, evar (no, seriously) [do I have something on my chin?]

Posted by: h00v3r at March 31, 2010 09:57 AM (u3QvZ)

20 Letterman sucks. (that's all).

Posted by: IowaBob at March 31, 2010 09:57 AM (RJ+Yj)

21 The DemSM also loved to describe "mothers with strollers" who showed up to the lefty protests. Said mothers probably were the same ones who had to take the baby to the hospital because of malnutrition from the "baby vegan diet"

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2010 09:58 AM (sYxEE)

22 14.  It would be nice if we had some political operatives who understand emerging technologies and aren't befuddled by them. It's no wonder we're being crushed by our political opponents when our leaders don't have three clues.

Posted by: someguywhoknowsabouttheinternet at March 31, 2010 02:55 PM (VRJIW)


We really are in trouble if Ace is one of our leaders.  Go punch the clown.

Posted by: fozzy at March 31, 2010 09:59 AM (ccEuN)

23

Part of the reason I'm no longer sold on Palin, by the way, is my belief she's now lost this critical ability to grab up another group, and she's now a politician with pure base appeal and little beyond that. But I digress.

 

WHAT? Soo, you are a fair weather supporter, only supporting so long as, in your opinion, a greater number will support her? That is absurd. Her message has not changed. It is the message that is important and resonates. Not whethare her wink has lonst its ability to send a tingle up your leg. But then you also started an instant bromance with, was it Pawlenty after a single soundbite?

Posted by: Beevis at March 31, 2010 09:59 AM (rVJH4)

24 This totally proves barbarian is a dick.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at March 31, 2010 09:59 AM (I1/U/)

25 I agree with hoov3r...good post!  Nodded my way through it.  I wish a lot of people were smarter and would wise up to how things are presented with the whole "Just Like You" concept.  I can only hope to spread the word to my little corner of the earth.

Posted by: Adlib at March 31, 2010 10:00 AM (k/CNO)

26 DOH puppet be gon.....23 was me!

Posted by: rightzilla at March 31, 2010 10:00 AM (rVJH4)

27 This old bitch's face would look a lot better with a nutsack draped over it. There, I said it. Republicans suck balls.

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at March 31, 2010 10:00 AM (mHQ7T)

28 She's probably already on Janet Nepolitano's DHS Homegrown Terrorist List.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 31, 2010 10:01 AM (i3AsK)

29

Ace, that's the best analysis of the political dynamics of Polite Company Conservatives I've seen since Coddington Van Voorhees III expounded on his readiness to trust Comrade Zero.  And you threw in a great deconstruction of media manipulation of the mushy middle to boot.

Come for the snark, stay for the wicked politico-psycho analysis of the American electorate.  You can take the afternoon off, guy.

Posted by: Cicero at March 31, 2010 10:01 AM (QKKT0)

30

Nice piece of writing Ace ... not that preceding work hasn't been. Thanks

DECONSTRUCTIONISM IS ESSENTIAL TO THE LEFT BECAUSE THE PROPOSITION THAT THERE IS NO REAL WORLD IS THE ONLY REMAINING WAY TO SAVE THE MANIFOLD ABSURDITIES OF LIBERALISM

Robert Locke  11-01  Front Page Mag; Deconstructing Deconstructionism

Posted by: OhioDude at March 31, 2010 10:01 AM (wdv0T)

31 Cicero...wipe your chin.

Posted by: rightzilla at March 31, 2010 10:02 AM (rVJH4)

32 24 This totally proves barbarian is a dick.

Ha!

Posted by: Barbarian at March 31, 2010 10:02 AM (EL+OC)

33 that was way too long a post......my head is spinning

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 31, 2010 10:03 AM (ucxC/)

34

"This totally proves barbarian is a dick."

You don't need to take it out to ten decimal places. I reached that conclusion after one.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at March 31, 2010 10:04 AM (ucq49)

35 That's a really long post Ace.  If you had to fit it on a bumper sticker, what would it say?

Posted by: Guy Who's Only Here For The Bacon, Hobos and Boobies at March 31, 2010 10:09 AM (QKKT0)

36 This is the MSM shepherding opponents of the healthcare bill into acceptance by giving them the mistaken belief that the government is listening to them (a washed up comedian who has had the President on his show will now invite a homemaker-turned-activist from Sarah Palin's hometown on his program, and now people can "hear" them.) The Democrats have made it clear they could give a fuck what anyone thinks. But Letterman can earn his paycheck and pay lip service to the rabble... who are very nice and talk like Maggie Thatcher!

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 31, 2010 10:09 AM (mHQ7T)

37

Oh, and I forgot, that was truly a great post, Ace. Keep 'em coming.

Image is important. I was at a gig close to a college last weekend where an obviously inebriated student declared his conservatism to me in idle conversation. I almost, almost said something to him about needing to project a better image if we want to win over skeptical friends and strangers. Part of me wanted to give him some fatherly advice, but the larger part told me to let him figure it out for himself.

However, if I play there again and he offers his political opinion unbidden again, I might just have that talk with him...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 31, 2010 10:10 AM (i3AsK)

38 So, Letterman was punching down, in other words.....

Posted by: Luca Brasi at March 31, 2010 10:10 AM (YmPwQ)

39

Tea party, Coffee party, - meh.  They aint nuthin.

It's those damn Pudding Cuppers that scare the bejesus out of me!  Have you seen these slack-jawed degenerates?

Posted by: Fritz at March 31, 2010 10:12 AM (GwPRU)

40 I like Ace's long, long, long, rants better, but still a solid A-.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at March 31, 2010 10:12 AM (I1/U/)

41 Btw, Pam Stout is a lovely person and a great spokesperson for the Tea Party movement. We wouldn't be seeing this interview, if it weren't for Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 31, 2010 10:13 AM (mHQ7T)

42 So who is telling you who is "just like you"?

Overpaid urban elitists who eat at restaurants you can't afford, send their kids to private schools yours can't get into, invite guests to dinner party who wouldn't look you in the eye not to mention even speak to you. They live in neighborhoods or buildings you wouldn't be allowed near, they go shopping in Paris, not at a suburban mall or the Walmart.

But they're "educated" and "experts" so they know everything

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2010 10:21 AM (sYxEE)

43 It amuses me that David Brooks is still bewildered at Sarah Palin's subliminal appeal, even as he still proudly supports a radical leftist on the basis that his maid is a wiz with a steam-iron.

To be fair, she's a wiz with the steam iron because Obama has taught her to be. Remember, he was a teacher before he became a lightworker. 

You know, credit where credit's due, and all that. 

Posted by: Phinn at March 31, 2010 10:22 AM (ng2aU)

44 You nailed it Ace, this lady rocks.

She came across as level-headed, credible, sympathetic, and sharp as a tack.  She also did more to sell fiscal responsibility to the late-night couch slackers than any thousand David Brooks columns.

By the way, I've been generally very pleased with the quality of the Tea Party spokespeople. These ordinary folks have done much to renew my faith in the common sense of most Americans.

Posted by: DelD at March 31, 2010 10:25 AM (eWtdM)

45 because he could quote Niebhur

No, he couldn't. Check the story.

Dumb-O dodged talking about Niebuhr with a standard pickup-artist move (talk about himself-as-Niebuhrian instead), and Frum? Brooks? (whatever; same douche) covered for him, like a father swinging the bat his son is "holding," then congratulating the kid. Obama reminded Polite Company Conservatives of the kind of person about whom a baseless claim of intellectualism/greatness/super-American-ness/perfection/etc. could be sold to them: themselves. So they propped and pumped him up as a way of flattering themselves. Obama has an accidental gift for making people do that, and judging by Dreams, a dumb-guy understanding of how to work it without knowing how it works, but a mark has to con himself.

You're almost getting this "one of us" thing, and it is The Thing, now that politics invades every cranny of everyone's us-ness. However, it seems like Palin's not-you-ness is too strong for you to see through, so you should probably avoid that dark alley. The wink is central to Polite Company Conservatives' (and other ugly chicks') self-flattering misunderstanding of her appeal, but that's all it is. If you really think the wink is speaking to not-you, let Palinalysis go. You'll never get it.

Posted by: oblig. at March 31, 2010 10:28 AM (x7Ao8)

46 O/T -  We're going to have to hear "shut up and like living with less" for a good 20 years according to one economist

Obama and America's 20 Year Bust


Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2010 10:28 AM (sYxEE)

47 Shit.

Posted by: oblig. at March 31, 2010 10:28 AM (x7Ao8)

48 I loved it when she said people shouldn't be satisfied with public housing. and..Can we impeach bama yet?

Posted by: politicalmuse at March 31, 2010 10:29 AM (kLKnf)

49 45 because he could quote Niebhur

No, he couldn't. Check the story.

Dumb-O dodged talking about Niebuhr with a standard pickup-artist move (talk about himself-as-Niebuhrian instead), and Frum? Brooks? (whatever; same douche) covered for him, like a father swinging the bat his son is "holding," then congratulating the kid.

My favorite philosopher?

mlbfmmfff...

Oh, and Arthur Vandelay ..

Posted by: Barack Costanza at March 31, 2010 10:30 AM (sYxEE)

50 That was a nice post, bro.

Posted by: rdbrewer at March 31, 2010 10:33 AM (Mn5i5)

51 The Teabagging Lady was UNEXPECTEDLY well spoken

Posted by: The MSM at March 31, 2010 10:35 AM (sYxEE)

52

Ace, the post was a tad long but very readable methinks. Well done.

Posted by: muggedbyreality at March 31, 2010 10:38 AM (Kpo6x)

53 I thought the coffee party kickoff was a couple of weeks ago and it bombed?

Posted by: bulwark at March 31, 2010 10:38 AM (PO/9k)

54 The Teabagging Lady was UNEXPECTEDLY well spoken

Devoid of any negro dialect!

Posted by: Harry Reid, Civil Rights Champion at March 31, 2010 10:40 AM (BiCQw)

55

You dumb motherfucker, this was surprisingly smart and analytical.  I feel like I learned something from it, you stupid dumbshit.

Posted by: Someguy at March 31, 2010 10:42 AM (epBek)

56 David Brooks put in writing that he puts people into two categories; "those who talk like us and those who don't"

Yet Brooks and his peerage presume to tell us who is "just like YOU"

Posted by: kbdabear at March 31, 2010 10:46 AM (sYxEE)

57 I like the way Brooks and Buckley get casually nuked in this piece.

Posted by: rdbrewer at March 31, 2010 10:52 AM (Mn5i5)

58 Nice, oh and I'm still voting for Palin. Sorry, Ace, still love you though!

Posted by: TexMex at March 31, 2010 10:54 AM (kvgr2)

59 I thought the coffee party kickoff was a couple of weeks ago and it bombed?

Posted by: bulwark at March 31, 2010 03:38 PM (PO/9k)

I saw a CNN story on it in line at the hardware store earlier this week.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at March 31, 2010 10:58 AM (mHQ7T)

60 Totally excellent analysis, maybe partly because I happen to agree almost every word.

That being said, don't go getting all Chris Buckley.

Posted by: Mondo at March 31, 2010 10:59 AM (uTRs/)

61 Excellent post by Ace. And for some of you, take it from a conservative-tilting, non-idealogical independent - he's right about Palin. Which some of you don't want to hear, but it's true.

Posted by: Vyceroy at March 31, 2010 11:04 AM (ZB2UQ)

62 Vyce:
And for some of you, take it from a conservative-tilting, non-idealogical independent - he's right about Palin. Which some of you don't want to hear, but it's true.<<

Nah.  You agree with him; that doesn't mean either of you is correct. 

Posted by: Kerry at March 31, 2010 11:38 AM (a/VXa)

63 When the lady walked out, she looked so normal and average, she looked like no one who had ever been a guest on a talk show before. Then she demonstrated she was normal, average, and intelligent. Brilliant insight as usual, Ace, and I too am still voting for Palin.

Posted by: Tonawanda at March 31, 2010 11:49 AM (bN5ZU)

64 I'd have just written, "The legacy media still hates non-Liberals, still sucks, and still goes to great lengths trying to hide that and their congenital bias."

And that explains why you get the big bucks.

Insightful piece there, Ace. You should run for dog catcher... or President.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at March 31, 2010 11:52 AM (oJaPx)

65 Don't you all know that we in Idaho are all knuckledragging, mouthbreathing members of the Aryan nations. That's why she got picked out of the NYT story.
Sucks when kill the narrative

Posted by: jamie at March 31, 2010 12:01 PM (CTJDC)

66 The odd thing is... the Tea Party really is made up of just folks while the left's usual ragged patchoulli-reeking protest professionals are absolutely not.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 31, 2010 12:04 PM (PQY7w)

67 I'd slam her like the Luftwaffe over London.

Posted by: Jesse James at March 31, 2010 12:43 PM (pffBj)

68

"The legacy media still hates non-Liberals, still sucks, and still goes to great lengths trying to hide that and their congenital bias."

+1, +1, +3 (respectively).

Posted by: FireHorse at March 31, 2010 12:45 PM (cQyWA)

69 And kudos, Ace, on another fine post.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 31, 2010 12:46 PM (cQyWA)

70 Regarding the Coffee party, I read a lefty's comment on HuffPo that said the first Houston coffee party meeting was taken over by that dickhead Dale Robertson, that racist who claims to be the Leader of All the Tea parties while having been kicked out of all of them.

If I hadn't been laughing so hard I'd have felt a little sorry for them. What a bunch of losers.

Posted by: stace at March 31, 2010 01:58 PM (g/wgk)

71 Ace, we need to know:

Does a piece like that require one beer, or two?  A shot of Scotch, or a bottle?  Or Lindsay Lohan's entire inventory of blow?

We need to know whether you're Just Like Us.

Posted by: mrkwong at March 31, 2010 02:07 PM (G8Eo0)

72

Bill O'Reilly, by the way, is that kind of guy. He's forever running down people like Laura Ingraham for the great sin of having some sort of intellectual framework for their political impulses.

O'Reilly really needs to be taken down a few pegs; he's gotten somewhat of a free pass because he's on against Bathtub Boy.  Assuming somebody buys the Witness Protection Network and sends Qweef, Rocky and Tweety packing to some local cable access shithole running glory-hole cams, we can let gasbag Bill know what we really think of his worthless arrogant ass.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 31, 2010 02:37 PM (EbYty)

73

Everyone at Woodstock was too stoned to remember anything....I call BS!

/

Posted by: Stillwater at March 31, 2010 04:09 PM (qUdDE)

74

"Not to belabor the point, but: Impeccably creased pantleg. It amuses me that David Brooks is still bewildered at Sarah Palin's subliminal appeal, even as he still proudly supports a radical leftist on the basis that his maid is a wiz with a steam-iron.

 

Why I read this place.

Posted by: redclay at March 31, 2010 04:27 PM (u4rXS)

75 dammit, ace, you're a wordy bastard.

Posted by: meep at March 31, 2010 04:28 PM (Jw4eT)

76 But yes, I agree with you [yes, I read the whole thing.]

Posted by: meep at March 31, 2010 04:31 PM (Jw4eT)

77

CBS needs the money, honey!  Two months ago when they announced layoffs,  their employees were irate that Katie Couric takes home a fat check.  CNN needs money/viewers so they hire RedState's Eric Erickson. Will we see more Tea Party interviews?  You Betcha.

 

Posted by: Show me the MONEY at March 31, 2010 05:02 PM (PALAN)

78 what a nice lady.

Posted by: Sean Sorrentino at March 31, 2010 06:06 PM (27MR7)

79 Helluvan analysis, Ace. Pretty startling, when you put it in such clean strokes. I'm gonna pass this around to the TP deniers in my family. Maybe I'll get a couple of them to start thinking a little bit. .... Naahhhhhhh!! Who the fuck am I kidding? My aunt thinks, because I've pointed out the explicit anti-semitism on the Left, I'm therefore calling her anti-semitic. Which I pointedly and clearly didn't do. But once the meme takes hold, it leaches onto the idiocracy without remorse. I weep for my country. But you've done a bang-up job here. Every inch of ground we can take makes it that much harder for them to win.

Posted by: NukemHill at March 31, 2010 06:14 PM (mwgG3)

80 Letterman doesn't get it. There are no leaders of the Tea Party Movement. There are prominent people. There are local organizers who have stepped up to put events together. But it isn't like everyone is connected.

Letterman should have come to Searchlight, NV and interviewed folks from all across the country. There was a lear jet that flew rather low over the event. Could that have been.....nah, probably Harry Reid's folks. It could have been Reid himself, because I can probably guarantee that he hasn't set foot in that town since he was born.

Posted by: Deborah Leigh at March 31, 2010 06:48 PM (rt5uo)

81 Deborah Leigh is right (Ace is always right). Searchlight was the best teaparty I have been to so for. It was so much fun to be with people who believe the constitution is king and we can take our country back and we were all packing.

Posted by: mormonmom at March 31, 2010 08:18 PM (Zgj/y)

82 Rock on, brother Ace.  This post is a BFD!  Your best evah, and I mean that.

Here's the crystalization of what Ace said, bumper sticker short:  "Liberalism is doomed by market forces."

Obama's election was a brief, back-blip on the march towards freedom, the last bear market before the greatest freedom run-up in history.

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83 @21 The DemSM also loved to describe "mothers with strollers" who showed up to the lefty protests. Said mothers probably were the same ones who had to take the baby to the hospital because of malnutrition from the "baby vegan diet"


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86 She came across as level-headed, credible, sympathetic, and sharp as a tack. She also did more to sell fiscal responsibility to the late-night couch slackers than any thousand David Brooks columns.
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