August 28, 2017

Kurt Schlichter to the SubRight: Spare Me Your Effeminate Lectures, We're In the Middle of a War If You Didn't Notice
Plus: Gov. Abbot Holds Press Conference About Storm

— Ace

They call themselves "principled," but I think the word "prissy" is much closer to the mark.

He's writing about the pardon of Joe Arpaio. His major point is that the Rule of Law has been abandoned -- destroyed, really -- by the left in favor of pure will-to-power power politics, and it's silly for what he calls the "Fredocons" to continue pretending we're in a state of innocence and perfection and normalcy.

I call them the SubRight, as they're not very conservative at all, and they're almost erotically aroused by being submissive to the masochistic demands of their progressive friends (and occasional allies).

We're not. We're in the pre-war state. We're in a cold civil war -- becoming a merely cool one.

Schlichter, who's actually been in war, has little patience for people who want to spout bromides while we're literally being physically assaulted, and the leftwing cultural/media hegemony is pushing harder and harder for repeal of the First Amendment.

The whiny wailing and rending of garments (mostly bow ties) by the True Cons over President Trump pardoning Sheriff Joe Arpaio brings to mind another president’s choice when a loyal supporter was the victim of a liberal witch hunt. President Bush was an honorable man, but the way he allowed Scooter Libby and the Libby family to be ruined and impoverished over what everyone knew was a skeevy liberal political vendetta before issuing a partial commutation is to W’s lasting shame. His excuse: the Rule of Law or something.

But, as anyone willing to see knows, today the Rule of Law is a unicorn and it has been for a long time. I like the Rule of Law, and I’ve been warning for years about what happens when it goes away. Yet we are where we are, whether we like it or not. We’re in a land where the law is only intermittently and selectively applicable. Allowing allies to suffer in an effort to pretend that all is well is not going to bring the Rule of Law back. Nostalgia for the Rule of Law no excuse for tolerating an injustice to an ally. Hell, undoing injustices is what the pardon power is for.

What will bring the Rule of Law back? How do we get to the Conserva-Eden we are expected to act like we already reside it? Perhaps another statement of principle? Maybe another post on some unread conservajournal? I know – how about more complaining about how frustrated conservatives are uncouth and should just sit there and take whatever fascist garbage the left dishes out?

I always thought it was conservative to punish wrongdoers. The other side abandoned the Rule of Law, so I would think that they might – maybe – learn a lesson by experiencing the consequences of their bad choice. But apparently punishing wrongdoers is now off the table because some other principle, of which I was unaware during nearly four decades inside conservatism, requires we never ever retaliate.

You know, I’m not sure that’s a thing. And I have to say – it’s tiresome getting Rule of Law lectures from people who are perfectly happy to have the president ignore immigration laws that they don’t dig.

So, my finger-wagging True Con friends, what’s your plan? How do we go from liberals abandoning the Rule of Law, and such ancillary and associated components of a society based on liberty like free speech and free enterprise, to a liberty-based society operating under the Rule of Law? “Elect more True Cons!” isn’t a plan; it’s an aspiration, and not much of one. I don’t need another cliché, or another citation to general principles, or some variant of my new favorite, all-purpose get-out-of-having-an-actual-plan-free card, the old “We’re better than this” line.

Worth the full read.

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Posted by: Ace at 09:09 AM | Comments (498)
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1 I read it earlier this morning Ace. I find no fault with his reasoning.

Posted by: USMC8541One Shot to Slay them all at August 28, 2017 09:10 AM (NmR1a)

2 Corgis summoned

Posted by: josephistan at August 28, 2017 09:11 AM (7HtZB)

3 How the hell did I get a first!?

Posted by: USMC8541One Shot to Slay them all at August 28, 2017 09:12 AM (NmR1a)

4 These people are commie moles. Nothing else explains it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 28, 2017 09:12 AM (QQ+il)

5 in other words, Fuck You, WAR!

Posted by: Rick in SK at August 28, 2017 09:12 AM (FZYNt)

6 Schlichter is a national treasure.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at August 28, 2017 09:13 AM (ul9CR)

7 It's Full of Diamonds!

Posted by: garrett at August 28, 2017 09:13 AM (+VZ/l)

8 "Tit for two tats" time, and the left has a lot of tats already.

Posted by: geoffb5 at August 28, 2017 09:13 AM (zOpu5)

9 Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder, Lois Lerner, John Corzine, Ben Rhodes, Bob Creaner, Kosiken, Susan Rice, et al still roam the land free people. The law is bullshit and doesn't exist for select elites. The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 28, 2017 09:13 AM (2JcMg)

10 Will someone please forward this to Jonah, THE Rick Wilson, Ewen McGregor (the bald non-con, not the Jedi), and other principled conservatives in the Ana Navarro mold?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 28, 2017 09:13 AM (zB8Dq)

11 >>Schlichter is a national treasure. Careful. Hillary will sell him to the Russians for contributions to her foundation.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 28, 2017 09:14 AM (/tuJf)

12 Schlichter is ALWAYS worth reading the whole thing. Though, I have to say, when he was in his #nevertrump phase, I thought he was a prissy Hillary fangirl, but he got over it.

Posted by: blaster at August 28, 2017 09:14 AM (1GJ2R)

13 ANOTHER NAZI!!! GO SHINE YOUR JACKBOOTS, ADOLF!!! I AM LITERALLY SHAKING!!!

Posted by: Keith Olberman at August 28, 2017 09:14 AM (O5Q3r)

14 Friend of the Blog Rick Wilson

Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at August 28, 2017 09:14 AM (QQ+il)

15 And Bill Kristol can DIAF

Posted by: Rick in SK at August 28, 2017 09:14 AM (FZYNt)

16 >>Schlichter is a national treasure. I don't like anyone who pitched for the Red Sox.

Posted by: garrett at August 28, 2017 09:14 AM (+VZ/l)

17 If we go full lawlessnes, you better be sure you are the meanest, baddest guy in the neighborhood. Get a bunker.

Posted by: kraken at August 28, 2017 09:14 AM (zSVEm)

18 >>>Friend of the Blog Rick Wilson Fuck Rick Wilson. Sorry, but I despise that POS.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 28, 2017 09:15 AM (zB8Dq)

19 Remember that big guy that Paul Newman kicked in the balls in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid? "What rules?"

Posted by: Meremortal at August 28, 2017 09:15 AM (3myMJ)

20 "We're better than this" = "It's not who we are" Speaking of which, had the small kick of snubbing a big city mayor at a friend's party on Saturday, the guy's final beclownment was using that second phrase as his overall response to the Trump candidacy.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 28, 2017 09:15 AM (v9gSJ)

21 A MONKEY-FUCKING NAZI IS SOCKING ME!!!

Posted by: keith olbermann at August 28, 2017 09:15 AM (mJ8mX)

22 Thank you sir, may I have another!

Posted by: George Will, wearing only the bowtie at August 28, 2017 09:16 AM (RD7QR)

23 Prissy. An apt term.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 28, 2017 09:16 AM (0mRoj)

24 "The whiny wailing and rending of garments (mostly bow ties) by the True Cons over President Trump pardoning Sheriff Joe Arpaio" I love this!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 28, 2017 09:16 AM (so+oy)

25 Sock it to me?

Posted by: Zombie Tricky Dick at August 28, 2017 09:16 AM (FZYNt)

26 He's writing about the pardon of Joe Arpaio. His major point is that the Rule of Law has been abandoned -- destroyed, really -- by the left in favor of pure will-to-power power politics, and it's silly for what he calls the "Fredocons" to continue pretending we're in a state of innocence and perfection and normalcy. Nope. http://preview.tinyurl.com/yb77zurr

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2017 09:16 AM (vBeA5)

27 >>If we go full lawlessnes, you better be sure you are the meanest, baddest guy in the neighborhood. Get a bunker. My neighborhood is full of active duty and retired service members. Got my bunker.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 28, 2017 09:16 AM (/tuJf)

28 Could have been first, but I just don't give a fvck today.

Not even knowing that HRCWNBPOTUS can lighten the gloom that envelopes me at the moment.

And I gotta go Squat 350 for 4 in a little bit...oye.


Posted by: browndog at August 28, 2017 09:16 AM (bGMOs)

29 I've got quite a bit of time freed up after the end of this week.

Posted by: Zombie Gen. Pinochet at August 28, 2017 09:16 AM (j+dfT)

30 Kurt Schlichter should be the Attorney General.

Posted by: ShainS at August 28, 2017 09:17 AM (Dp/8D)

31 You can't win a war of you aren't willing to firebomb Dresden and nuke Hiroshima.

Posted by: The Hot Gates at August 28, 2017 09:17 AM (Na/F1)

32 Bankers are the biggest offenders of getting away with being above the law.
Sheriff Joe did what?  Tried to keep criminal illegals from returning 20 times to commit more crime, sell more drugs, etc.

Malicious selective prosecution is in a separate category from Lerner getting a free pass after using the IRS to destroy awesome people that dare stand up to government fascists.  (True the vote woman ... one great example)

It is not a case of "well they break the law so we can".  It is "they use law to attack good people, to protect their DC Deep State crime syndicate."  No moral equivalence.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 28, 2017 09:17 AM (veVl1)

33 It was the best of times it was THE MOTHERFICKING NAZI OF TIMES!!

Posted by: Ten Thousand Monkeys at Ten Thousand Typewriters at August 28, 2017 09:17 AM (QQ+il)

34 >>>You can't win a war of you aren't willing to firebomb Dresden and nuke Hiroshima. And bang Lena Dunham.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 28, 2017 09:17 AM (zB8Dq)

35 This is not who we are.

Posted by: Fritz at August 28, 2017 09:17 AM (2Mnv1)

36 Yes! Prissy. Paul Ryan is a prissy cvnt. I like it.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 28, 2017 09:18 AM (mcI77)

37 34 >>>You can't win a war of you aren't willing to firebomb Dresden and nuke Hiroshima. And bang Lena Dunham. Posted by: Wyatt Earp that is not who we are

Posted by: Rick in SK at August 28, 2017 09:18 AM (FZYNt)

38 Read his two Post-CW2 split America novels. Great natural projection of current trends of lunacy. People's Republic (I think) and Indian Country. Good action adventure with lots of left-skewering.

Posted by: RI Red - the second mouse gets the covfefe. at August 28, 2017 09:18 AM (Izxfp)

39 They call themselves "principled," but I think the word "prissy -- I call them 'complicite' some even treasonous

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 09:18 AM (FKrah)

40 Wyatt Earp: Don't forget True Republicans like Hillary Clinton voter Tom Nichols and the newest leftist media hero Jeff Flake. Also, how is Ana Navarro still on TV? She's bloated and hideously ugly, has no job in politics, doesn't write shit, etc.

Posted by: BK at August 28, 2017 09:18 AM (eBjUq)

41 A MONKEY-FUCKING NAZI IS SOCKING ME!!! I LOVE HATE-FUCKING MOTHERFUCKING MONKEYS!!!!!

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at August 28, 2017 09:18 AM (5rdJ4)

42 The bit that all of Schlichter's critics are purposefully missing is that he states, point blank, that he does not want this world and does not want these rules but that position lost and this is the world we are in so we will play by these rules. Hell, in that article he says point blank maybe I'm wrong but at least I have a plan, what are you doing? I think often of an article he wrote several years ago which has a picture of him standing in front of a destroyed village in Bosnia and he notes in the article that the devastation around him wasn't done by a bomb but by humans clawing down the structures by hand. He warned then where we were headed. Look, I am inclined to enjoy his works because he's a snarky bitch and I am, hold your shock, not unacquainted with such an approach to the world. But underneath all of it is a very well grounded view that we are fighting an existential fight for survival and survival is the primary of all principles. For the record, I am completely neutral about the Apario pardon. I don't care. I just don't.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 28, 2017 09:18 AM (mf5HN)

43 In other news, potential Fukushima incident in Texas: The South Texas Nuclear Project Electric Generating station is a nuclear power station southwest of Bay City, Texas. The station occupies a 12,200 acre site on the Colorado River, location Matagorda County. They are worried it could flood.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 28, 2017 09:18 AM (3myMJ)

44 You cut the one weak point in the article, the reference to citations of Burke. The pseudo-cons (a) don't actually like Burke - Williamson admitted this - and (b) they (and apparently Kurt himself) don't seem to have read what Burke actually said about the Jacobins.

Posted by: George LeS at August 28, 2017 09:18 AM (+TcCF)

45 FFS, Trump pardoning Sheriff Joe is precisely why the Constitution gives POTUS unfettered pardon power over federal crimes: to overturn politically-motivated convictions. The recourse is to vote Trump out of office. The pardon abuses are often the last-minute pay-offs when a POTUS is leaving office and is no longer subject to the wrath of the voters.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 28, 2017 09:19 AM (+7/1f)

46 Maybe Trump should schedule some helicopter rides for certain Senators? I just spit balling here.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 28, 2017 09:19 AM (YV+SU)

47 From the little I know about Sheriff Arpaio--and I'm certain most people here know a lot more about him than I do--he sounds like he might be somewhat unsavory on a personal level. But even setting aside the fact that that has no bearing on the merits of the pardon itself, Schlichter is right: this is a culture war (emphasis on war), and if you claim to be a conservative yet are throwing a fit over the pardon, you are being worse than useless right now.

Posted by: T at August 28, 2017 09:19 AM (Vgw1E)

48 I think a large sector of the pundit class is so afraid of being called racist they go nuts the other direction waving semafores and flashing signal lights like crazy to show their virtue. I'M NOT LIKE THEM THOSE EVIL TRUMP SUPPORTER!!!!1!1!! At this point, anyone with a shred of self reflection and honesty would have abandoned the anti-trump thing as pointlessly destructive to their own cause. Anyone who's clinging to it still the same as before is simply not rational and doing so for very questionable reasons. I can buy being disgusted or unhappy with some of what the guy does. I can buy considering him a sleazeball unworthy of the office. I can even buy not wanting to be considered a Trump Voter. But absolutist, knee jerk opposition and constantly taking the other side on all issues from Trump is inexcusable. These guys would have hated all the founding fathers at the time. They'd have been the Tories.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 09:20 AM (39g3+)

49 46 Maybe Trump should schedule some helicopter rides for certain Senators? I just spit balling here. Posted by: Puddin Head too soon

Posted by: Zombie Ron Brown at August 28, 2017 09:20 AM (FZYNt)

50 >>>40 Wyatt Earp: Don't forget True Republicans like Hillary Clinton voter Tom Nichols and the newest leftist media hero Jeff Flake. Also, how is Ana Navarro still on TV? She's bloated and hideously ugly, has no job in politics, doesn't write shit, etc. God I forgot Nichols and Schindler. Two more morons. Philly talk radio guy Rich Zeoli always describes Navarro as "the GOP strategist who has never had a client."

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 28, 2017 09:20 AM (zB8Dq)

51 Pants-wetting hysteria!

Posted by: Insomniac at August 28, 2017 09:21 AM (0mRoj)

52 Real federalism would dispel a lot of these issues--let them stew in their hellholes and leave us tf alone. But many large issues would remain.

Posted by: spongeworthy at August 28, 2017 09:21 AM (K/9da)

53 Amen. What happened to Scooter Libby is scandalous, the more so because he was loyal to W, and didn't do anything wrong. Whereas that Bradley abomination sold secrets and divulged untold numbers of classified documents, wreaking who knows how much damage to military and intelligence activities, and that POS is given a cover on Vanity Fair. What is wrong with this picture?

Posted by: moki at August 28, 2017 09:21 AM (V+V48)

54 You want General Washington You will settle for General Pinochet You will get General Disorder

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 28, 2017 09:21 AM (QQ+il)

55 >>>>>>If we go full lawlessnes, you better be sure you are the meanest, baddest guy in the neighborhood.
Get a bunker.

My neighborhood is full of active duty and retired service members.

Got my bunker.
.
.
.Guess who else had a bunker.  Just sayin.......

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 28, 2017 09:21 AM (+Dllb)

56 My first question to anyone who opposes the pardon based on rule of law: What should be done about Hillary Clinton getting away with hosting classified materials on a bathroom server? Whataboutism be damned, because I have a strange feeling these are the same people who (loudly) found it "unseemly" or "undemocratic" for crowds to merely chant "lock her up" but were totes cool with Arpaio actually being sentenced.

Posted by: Dante at August 28, 2017 09:21 AM (OBiix)

57 Trump pardoning Sheriff Joe is precisely why the Constitution gives POTUS unfettered pardon power over federal crimes: to overturn politically-motivated convictions. That is the absolute truth. This is exactly why the president can pardon people. Obama's pardons... the opposite: he used his pardon regarding people justly convicted to pardon them for political reasons.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 09:21 AM (39g3+)

58 I call them the SubRight, as they're not very conservative at all, and they're almost erotically aroused by being submissive to the masochistic demands of their progressive friends (and occasional allies). As opposed to histrionic pollyannas who must emote and do something -- anything and would rather scratch that itch rather than actually try to figure out something workable. Frankly, 'tis nothing more than þe olde sound and fury.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2017 09:21 AM (vBeA5)

59 Of course it's incorrect to say rule of law is gone. It's popularity is just more selective - to steal a meme from another kind of situation. In the vast bulk of areas where law is applied/litigated/adjudicated - mundane stuff like commercial law, real estate, finance, etc. - of course things continue much the same. If, say, some wholesale, jaw-dropping systematic violation of serious laws like the Espionage Act were to take place in banking, there would be consequences - immediate, dramatic. If not - the majority of the populace that ignores all this stuff we're talking about would be affected, and would not stand for it. There was an amazing, brief flirtation with actually just dumping the whole thing, back in 2008/9, with the looting of investors in Chrylser and GM (?) bonds. Still not sure how that was settled. But that's the kind of lawlessness that would unravel the society, quickly, if it spread.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 28, 2017 09:21 AM (v9gSJ)

60 42 ....... Look, I am inclined to enjoy his works because he's a snarky bitch and I am, hold your shock, not unacquainted with such an approach to the world. But underneath all of it is a very well grounded view that we are fighting an existential fight for survival and survival is the primary of all principles. For the record, I am completely neutral about the Apario pardon. I don't care. I just don't. Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 28, 2017 02:18 PM (mf5HN) Nailed it, alex. This is a fight foisted on us, I do not believe we picked it. Too many on the Right are just... nice... and rely on .. niceness to carry the day, and somehoe .. niceness is the default human state.

Posted by: kraken at August 28, 2017 09:21 AM (zSVEm)

61 If we go full lawlessnes, you better be sure you are the meanest, baddest guy in the neighborhood. Get a bunker. Posted by: kraken at August 28, 2017 02:14 PM (zSVEm) **************************** That's the trick about going to guns. There will only be one top dog.

Posted by: gNewt at August 28, 2017 09:22 AM (g7gOM)

62 54. General Butt-Naked.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 28, 2017 09:22 AM (fA1SL)

63 54 You want General Washington You will settle for General Pinochet You will get General Disorder Posted by: Grump928(C) what about General Mills?

Posted by: Rick in SK at August 28, 2017 09:22 AM (FZYNt)

64 Thiiiis close to using the "cuck" word...

Posted by: moviegique at August 28, 2017 09:22 AM (7zeA4)

65 My first question to anyone who opposes the pardon based on rule of law My first question is what the hell they think the term "pardon" means? By definition it must be an overturning of someone convicted by the rule of law. Pardons by their very nature are the reversal of a legal procedure, they exist because we are aware that the system isn't perfect and sometimes it needs to be reversed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 09:22 AM (39g3+)

66 >>>what about General Mills? Or General Admission?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 28, 2017 09:22 AM (zB8Dq)

67 You cut the one weak point in the article, the reference to citations of Burke. The pseudo-cons (a) don't actually like Burke - Williamson admitted this - and (b) they (and apparently Kurt himself) don't seem to have read what Burke actually said about the Jacobins. Posted by: George LeS at August 28, 2017 02:18 PM (+TcCF) Oh speaking of Williamson, VDH slits his throat in the most polite possible fashion. Read point five. https://amgreatness.com/2017/08/27/trump-compared-to-what/ It brings a tear to the eye.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 28, 2017 09:23 AM (mf5HN)

68 Look, I am inclined to enjoy his works because he's a snarky bitch and I am, hold your shock, not unacquainted with such an approach to the world. This is why you are the Empress.

Posted by: moki at August 28, 2017 09:23 AM (V+V48)

69 This is not who we are. The arrogance of the statement has always pissed me off. Bigly. For about two decades now. First ... what's this "we" ? It certainly doesn't include "me". Second ... who shit a crown for any of those who issue such a proclamation ? When did they become the final arbiter of such shit ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 28, 2017 09:23 AM (8yJ7M)

70 Also, how is Ana Navarro still on TV? She's bloated and hideously ugly, has no job in politics, doesn't write shit, etc. ---- Because she will vomit out, on command, whatever her white liberal masters tell her to.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at August 28, 2017 09:23 AM (23bJQ)

71 I think the scarier lesson we are all learning, is that Democracy is actually dead. We VOTED for a certain agenda. Over the last 7 years we put the Repubs in control of both houses of Congress, the Presidency, and most of the governors... Yet.... nothing is getting done on the agenda they ran on. Nothing is being accomplished EXCEPT more lawlessness... So what happens when you do everything right and legal... and nothing changes... And you see those who are breaking the law... get away with changing society?

Posted by: Don Q. at August 28, 2017 09:24 AM (NgKpN)

72 "You can't win a war if you aren't willing to firebomb Dresden and nuke Hiroshima." "And bang Lena Dunham." And bang your hot blond Auntie!

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 28, 2017 09:24 AM (+7/1f)

73 I'm like Duterte when it comes to liberals anymore. If they resist, shoot them.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at August 28, 2017 09:24 AM (nNKHW)

74 They are called cucks. However, the use of that term has effectively been used to identify the user as a White Supremacist. Wrongly. Everything which is a microaggression to a person to the right of Nancy Pelosi is hate speech- see?

Posted by: Cluebat at August 28, 2017 09:24 AM (9WTDY)

75 Don't worry guys! Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan got our backs! And John McCain ... WOO WOO!

Posted by: The Rule Of Law Never Trumpers at August 28, 2017 09:24 AM (Pqytn)

76 This is almost the entirety of my reason for my voting for Trump. Ironically he is probably the most legally grounded person to occupy the office in some time.

Posted by: MAGA at August 28, 2017 09:24 AM (3QNIO)

77 What these TrueCon, SubRight, GOPe bitches STILL won't admit is:

Had their preferred politicians even TRIED to do their MF'ing jobs, even the barest of effort to follow through on their campaign promises, THERE NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN A TRUMP!!!!


Posted by: RoyalOil at August 28, 2017 09:25 AM (oF/7l)

78 what about General Mills? We'll be lucky to get that crappy general from the insurance ads. The pseudo-cons (a) don't actually like Burke - Williamson admitted this Burke was too strong on virtue and liberty for some. He recognized that freedom is only valuable to and end rather than in as an end of its self, that's unsavory to a lot of people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 09:25 AM (39g3+)

79 Really good video here re: defeating Antifa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dduc8AoIuG0

It's in reference to anti-mask laws. Starting at 13:00 or so, she talks about the steps to take in regards to making Democrat mayors enforce anti-mask laws in states that have them.

Key to the process is for the pro free speech group to hold press conferences and talk about all anti-mask laws. If the anti-mask laws are not enforced and someone gets injured, they may be able to sue the mayor who gave that order.

Posted by: shibumi at August 28, 2017 09:25 AM (aT+Bx)

80 69 This is not who we are. The arrogance of the statement has always pissed me off. Bigly. For about two decades now. First ... what's this "we" ? It certainly doesn't include "me". Second ... who shit a crown for any of those who issue such a proclamation ? When did they become the final arbiter of such shit ? Posted by: ScoggDog at August 28, 2017 02:23 PM (8yJ7M) Well... it may not be who THEY are... But it certainly is what this Red Blooded American Veteran is...

Posted by: Don Q. at August 28, 2017 09:25 AM (NgKpN)

81 From the sidebar, Sheriff Joe primaries Vagina Dandruff. Be still my throbbig boner!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at August 28, 2017 09:25 AM (Nwg0u)

82 "I call them the SubRight" - - - - - - - Yeah, here's the thing: we already have a great word for these people. But for some reason we're not allowed to use it. Call them whatever euphemism your like. They're cucks, Ace. Cucks. C U C K U C K

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 28, 2017 09:25 AM (xN1DB)

83 YOU WANT NAZI MOTHERFUCKERS!! YOU'LL TAKE REGULAR MOTHERFUCKERS!! YOU'LL GET PLASTIC DUCKIES!!!

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at August 28, 2017 09:25 AM (5rdJ4)

84 >>what about General Mills? General Mayhem

Posted by: Under Fire at August 28, 2017 09:26 AM (mcI77)

85 You can oppose the Arpaio pardon and still be conservative. He's an asshole and he may need prosecuting for a lot more stuff than contempt. But if they don't prosecute theirs, if they pardon treasonous trannys, why bother to care? Loads of other stuff appears to be more important.

Posted by: spongeworthy at August 28, 2017 09:26 AM (K/9da)

86 General Hospital

Posted by: Rick in SK at August 28, 2017 09:26 AM (FZYNt)

87 I don't really like the term 'cuck'. It is often bandied about by basement dwellers. But if the shoe fits...

Posted by: Cluebat at August 28, 2017 09:26 AM (9WTDY)

88 Key to the process is for the pro free speech group to hold press conferences and talk about all anti-mask laws. If the anti-mask laws are not enforced and someone gets injured, they may be able to sue the mayor who gave that order. Posted by: shibumi at August 28, 2017 02:25 PM (aT+Bx) Do you really think trying to force a group who won't even enforce Illegal Immigration laws... to enforce a law they don't like.... Will work? They are not afraid of the Law.... they know they are already above it.

Posted by: Don Q. at August 28, 2017 09:27 AM (NgKpN)

89 For the record, I am completely neutral about the Apario pardon. I don't care. I just don't. Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me _________ It offends all the right people. That brings me great pleasure.

Posted by: Furious George at August 28, 2017 09:28 AM (j+dfT)

90 I see Hillary is pimping her book in Wisc. First time she's been in the state. On a related topic: what kind of fucking loser does one have to be to be assigned to Hill's SS detail?

Posted by: Under Fire at August 28, 2017 09:28 AM (mcI77)

91 The GOP wing of the Democrat-Leftist-Deep State.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 28, 2017 09:28 AM (mbhDw)

92 85 You can oppose the Arpaio pardon and still be conservative. He's an asshole and he may need prosecuting for a lot more stuff than contempt. But if they don't prosecute theirs, if they pardon treasonous trannys, why bother to care? Loads of other stuff appears to be more important. Posted by: spongeworthy at August 28, 2017 02:26 PM (K/9da) Yeah.... how dare a Sheriff actually enforce the Law.... How horrible! /facepalm

Posted by: Don Q. at August 28, 2017 09:28 AM (NgKpN)

93 Actually I think the word "cuckold" works pretty well for the nevertrumps because they are so submissive, weak, and pathetic they let themselves be trampled hoping for some attaboy from their blood enemies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 09:28 AM (39g3+)

94 >>>>From the little I know about Sheriff Arpaio--and I'm certain most people here know a lot more about him than I do--he sounds like he might be somewhat unsavory on a personal level. But even setting aside the fact that that has no bearing on the merits of the pardon itself, Schlichter is right: this is a culture war (emphasis on war), and if you claim to be a conservative yet are throwing a fit over the pardon, you are being worse than useless right now.
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.He didn't break any laws.  He was charged with contempt for ignoring a Judges order to stop allegedly profiling Mexicans.  They had zero proof that he was doing that and that's why he was never charged with  any Civil Rights violation even though he was under investigation by both the  DOJ and the FBI for years. 

He got charged with a misdemeanor after the Federal Prosecutor stepped in and played semantics games.  The prosecutor then "recommended" a sentence of only 60 days which denied him the right to a Jury trial.  Which if that had occurred he would not have been convicted. 

He had a bench trial where the Judge declared him guilty and sentenced to 60 days the maximum sentence he could give.

It was 100% a political hit job started by holder because he dared try to enforce immigration laws. 


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 28, 2017 09:29 AM (+Dllb)

95 So nice that we now live under "Rule of the Feelz" instead of the Rule of Law.

This is why I voted for Trump, if he can save the Supreme Court from all this commie bullshit, I'll be forever grateful to him.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at August 28, 2017 09:29 AM (1JnAL)

96 I think the scarier lesson we are all learning, is that Democracy is actually dead.

We VOTED for a certain agenda. Over the last 7 years we put the Repubs in control of both houses of Congress, the Presidency, and most of the governors...

Yet.... nothing is getting done on the agenda they ran on. Nothing is being accomplished EXCEPT more lawlessness...

So what happens when you do everything right and legal... and nothing changes...

And you see those who are breaking the law... get away with changing society?
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For those feel confrontational and angry, there is always the option of going to this town hall meetings and screaming "YOU ARE A TRAITOR" and the person's name. Maybe take a few friends, and start chanting "traitor."

That might bother them. And it might get picked upon the news.

Posted by: shibumi at August 28, 2017 09:29 AM (aT+Bx)

97 what about General Mills? Or General Admission? - General Denial?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at August 28, 2017 09:29 AM (Nwg0u)

98 "the way he allowed Scooter Libby and the Libby family to be ruined and impoverished over what everyone knew was a skeevy liberal political vendetta before issuing a partial commutation is to W's lasting shame"

What I'll always remember about that entire sorry contretemps is Dubya having the teevee cameras in to the room where he was about to convene a Cabinet meeting.

Whereupon Bush did his best (not very good) impression of a rough tough Texas Ranger squinting determinedly into the sun in hot pursuit of perps, and declared that, by all that was holy, he was going to _get to the bottom_ of the Plame allegations. Why, those misbegotten miscreants, whomever they were, would be _diligently ferreted out_, and then they would be speedily _brought to justice_.

Colin Powell was sitting right next to him. Right. Next. To. Him. And Powell knew perfectly well who it was that had actually blown Plame's cover. Powell's aide Richard Armitage.

The entire situation could have been settled and defused. On the spot, right there, right then. The whole prosecutorial witch hunt was unnecessary. The FBI could have stood down. The defenestration and professional destruction of Libby over an ordinary lapse of memory need not have happened.

Powell didn't say a goddamned thing.

No circle of Hell sufficiently hot.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 28, 2017 09:30 AM (ujwCG)

99 72 "You can't win a war if you aren't willing to firebomb Dresden and nuke Hiroshima." "And bang Lena Dunham." And bang your hot blond Auntie! Posted by: Ignoramus at August 28, 2017 02:24 PM (+7/1f) I didn't know she was my aunt! I'm still not planning on stopping anytime soon...

Posted by: Jon Targaryen at August 28, 2017 09:30 AM (7HtZB)

100 Sheriff Joe got ordered to jail by a judge without a jury because he was alleged to have violated that judge's order. Haven't studied this, but it looks flawed legally. And even more so if the Obama DOJ went judge shopping, which they always do.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 28, 2017 09:30 AM (+7/1f)

101 91 The GOP wing of the Democrat-Leftist-Deep State. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 28, 2017 02:28 PM (mbhDw) Deep State cannot be mentioned too often in all of this debacle, JJ. Dead serious... this motive force has to be kept in the spotlight...

Posted by: kraken at August 28, 2017 09:30 AM (zSVEm)

102 >>>You can't win a war of you aren't willing to firebomb Dresden and nuke Hiroshima. And bang Lena Dunham. Posted by: Wyatt Earp I'll lie on my back and think of Obama.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at August 28, 2017 09:31 AM (/qEW2)

103 Oh thank goodness the Corgis are on their way. Me needs them.

Posted by: Winnie-the-Pooh at August 28, 2017 09:31 AM (O67g7)

104 GOP takes control of the House: January 2011 GOP takes control of the Senate: January 2015 GOP takes control of the Presidency: January 2017 Obamacare lives. Planned Parenthood still has full federal funding.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 28, 2017 09:31 AM (Mouru)

105 104 GOP takes control of the House: January 2011 GOP takes control of the Senate: January 2015 GOP takes control of the Presidency: January 2017 Obamacare lives. Planned Parenthood still has full federal funding. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) Send more money

Posted by: GOP at August 28, 2017 09:32 AM (FZYNt)

106 I don't think Arpaio is a good actor, I suspect he's just not a very good guy overall. But he definitely was railroaded by a hostile justice system and it was wrong for him to have been convicted and imprisoned.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 09:33 AM (39g3+)

107 I will always be indebted to Trump for the ripping off of masks. Everyone I thought was on my side I now consider my enemy.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at August 28, 2017 09:33 AM (+dsLj)

108 OT: Salon doubles-down on derp. \https://twitter.com/Salon/status/902204188670779396

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2017 09:33 AM (vBeA5)

109 Actually I think the word "cuckold" works pretty well for the nevertrumps because they are so submissive, weak, and pathetic they let themselves be trampled hoping for some attaboy from their blood enemies. - Cuckle doodle do! - Juan McCain, Ms. Lindsey, Lyin' Ryan, Turtle On a Fence Post, and Vagina Dandruff

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at August 28, 2017 09:33 AM (Nwg0u)

110 104 GOP takes control of the House: January 2011 GOP takes control of the Senate: January 2015 GOP takes control of the Presidency: January 2017 Obamacare lives. Planned Parenthood still has full federal funding. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 28, 2017 02:31 PM ( "Meet the New Boss, Same as the Old Boss..."

Posted by: kraken at August 28, 2017 09:33 AM (zSVEm)

111 On a related topic: what kind of fucking loser does one have to be to be assigned to Hill's SS detail? Posted by: Under Fire at August 28, 2017 02:28 PM (mcI77) The bastards lost my show when they tossed me in the van (hic!)

Posted by: Hillary, still never going to be President at August 28, 2017 09:33 AM (ul9CR)

112 My favorite thing about Kurt Schlichter is that alexthechick has mentioned him on the phone at least once or twice a week for a year or so without pronouncing his name the same way twice.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 28, 2017 09:33 AM (gIRsn)

113 CUCK!! CUCK!!1!!
SEE?!!!
NAZIS!!! NAZIS!!! NAZIS!!!

Posted by: keith olbermann at August 28, 2017 09:33 AM (mJ8mX)

114 From the sidebar, Sheriff Joe primaries Vagina Dandruff. Be still my throbbig boner! EyorePundit has a hissy fit.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 28, 2017 09:33 AM (QQ+il)

115 My SHOE (hic!)

Posted by: Hillary, still never going to be President at August 28, 2017 09:34 AM (ul9CR)

116 Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 28, 2017 02:18 PM (mf5HN) True, but my simple counter would be "what if it's already lost?" I'm not sure we can survive in this manner. Tit for tat, slow war of attrition. Frankly the left is more prepared for that. Simply put they believe that both the end result and the methods are right. Even at our best we seem to believe only one of those. I'm constantly being told "you must fight." Perhaps. Or, new and very different Benedict and all that jazz. I mean let's face it, we can't deconstruct the administrative state. The spending cuts necessary to balance the budget are pretty much unobtainable over even the long term, much less the medium term before our debt service equals revenue. Even if we score some victories here and there (we can go head and count this as a victory but my thoughts on the pardon trend from neutral to negative but all within the bounds of "it's Trump's prerogative as he has that power) they are all pretty hollow victories in the end.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 09:34 AM (dzmBR)

117 We have no one to represent us except Trump -one person cannot change this country by himself.  We have no leaders in  most of our government.  Only followers afraid for their jobs.

Posted by: Glenn John at August 28, 2017 09:34 AM (LilNs)

118 "Also, how is Ana Navarro still on TV? She's bloated and hideously ugly, has no job in politics, doesn't write shit, etc."

Alex, I'll take "Self-Answering Questions" for five hundred.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 28, 2017 09:34 AM (ujwCG)

119 Obamacare lives. Planned Parenthood still has full federal funding. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) ________ And we're still gonna keep a-fightin' them FOIA lawsuits. You never know whether one of them plaintiffs is a weeeeed smokin' hippie. We oughta take his car and his house!

Posted by: Slumberin' Jeff Sessions at August 28, 2017 09:35 AM (j+dfT)

120 Posted by: Hillary, still never going to be President We have a really big shoe tonight

Posted by: Zombie Ed Sullivan at August 28, 2017 09:35 AM (FZYNt)

121 Inflatable Chicken Trump destroy!

Posted by: MAGA at August 28, 2017 09:36 AM (3QNIO)

122 Me: How do we bring back true conservativism? SubRight: We must eschew deranged America First crazies like Trump and elect principled conservatives like McCain, Rubio and Romney. Me: .........................

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at August 28, 2017 09:36 AM (+dsLj)

123 General Strike

Posted by: johnd01 at August 28, 2017 09:36 AM (ukNFU)

124 Please clap. Please.

Posted by: El Gobernador Jeb Bush at August 28, 2017 09:36 AM (Mouru)

125 The GOP is responsible for something like $15T in debt. Conservative? I don't think so.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 28, 2017 09:36 AM (QQ+il)

126 OT: Salon doubles-down on derp. \https://twitter.com/Salon/status/902204188670779396 - I never cared for The Star Spangled Banner, I'd prefer replacing it with The Battle Hymn of the Republic, but if it pisses off Salon, well, Oh say can you see . . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at August 28, 2017 09:37 AM (Nwg0u)

127 Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2017 02:16 PM (vBeA5) Dude, you forgot the sarc tag.

Posted by: db at August 28, 2017 09:37 AM (NEz+K)

128 I added a link to gov. abbot's press conference about the storm, though it hasn't begun yet. The link is at the end of the post.

Posted by: ace at August 28, 2017 09:37 AM (8rNrN)

129

 

And even more so if the Obama DOJ went judge shopping, which they always do.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 28, 2017 02:30 PM (+7/1f)

 

 

I don't know if it's true or not but supposedly the person that filed the complaint was a relative of the judge that was hearing the case.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 28, 2017 09:37 AM (lKyWE)

130 117 We have no one to represent us except Trump -one person cannot change this country by himself. We have no leaders in most of our government. Only followers afraid for their jobs. Posted by: Glenn John at August 28, 2017 02:34 PM (LilNs) ------ Another reason for term limits.

Posted by: MAGA at August 28, 2017 09:37 AM (3QNIO)

131 I never cared for The Star Spangled Banner, I'd prefer replacing it with The Battle Hymn of the Republic, but if it pisses off Salon, well, Oh say can you see . . . . Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! You ain't whistling Dixie

Posted by: Rick in SK at August 28, 2017 09:37 AM (FZYNt)

132 The only way one man can change the course of the country is for him to be or become an Autocrat, as in " Autocrat of all the Russias" or something. Trump just does not have much support from government.

Posted by: kraken at August 28, 2017 09:38 AM (zSVEm)

133 I don't know if it's true or not but supposedly the person that filed the complaint was a relative of the judge that was hearing the case. "If you don't know the law, know the judge."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 28, 2017 09:38 AM (Mouru)

134 Sheriff Joe got ordered to jail by a judge without a jury because he was alleged to have violated that judge's order. Haven't studied this, but it looks flawed legally. And even more so if the Obama DOJ went judge shopping, which they always do. Posted by: Ignoramus at August 28, 2017 02:30 PM (+7/1f) No right to jury trial for misdemeanors. I forget the ruling that held that. What had me banshee screaching at my monitor was Kamala "There's absolutely nothing wrong with falsifiying a confession" Harris yammering away about how dare we not hold police officers to the rule of law. Link to the Harris crapola: http://observer.com/2015/03/california-prosecutor-falsifies-transcript-of-confession/ IIRC, she also defending CPS and advanced the position that there was no way that a state child services workers would know that giving perjured testimony was wrong. If it wasn't her directly, it was her office.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 28, 2017 09:38 AM (mf5HN)

135 Telling the truth about Joe Arpaio is indicative of a servile desire to be penetrated. 'Kay. Have fun with that.

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at August 28, 2017 09:39 AM (WuHtN)

136 True, but my simple counter would be "what if it's already lost?" Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 02:34 PM (dzmBR) Then Let It Burn. Or don't. Keep trying to prop it up. You'll fail. It's going to burn all the same. We're just dicking around over "When" at this point. I'm a big fan of not wasting my own effort. But other people's effort ? Meh. Whatevs.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 28, 2017 09:39 AM (8yJ7M)

137 "Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder, Lois Lerner, John Corzine, Ben Rhodes, Bob Creaner, Kosiken, Susan Rice, et al still roam the land free people.

The law is bullshit and doesn't exist for select elites.

 Posted by: Kreplach"

Worse than that you can be punished by being fired,  have your career ruined and business destroyed  for mere bad thought or appearance of bad thought.  Membership in a religious organization, wrong friends, random comment or joke are all the evidence the mob needs. Teachers (immigration bad-thought) , Google engineer (gender bad-thought) , bakers and tech CEO (gay-marriage bad thought)  to name a few that have been punished by the non-laws. This was unimaginable 20 or 30 years ago and is becoming so common that it doesn't even shock anyone anymore.

Posted by: Ripley at August 28, 2017 09:39 AM (MxEKc)

138 Obama pardons drug dealers. Trump pardons a law enforcement officer who refused to STOP ENFORCING THE LAW! And the evil anarchist is... Trump.

Posted by: JB1000, EAJ at August 28, 2017 09:40 AM (3acYM)

139 For the record, I am completely neutral about the Apario pardon. I don't care. I just don't. Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me _________ It offends all the right people. That brings me great pleasure. I haven't read Gabe Malor in some time. I do remember he was anti-Arpaio, bigly. I hope the pardon chaps Malor's hide.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 28, 2017 09:40 AM (jhqr1)

140 Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2017 02:16 PM (vBeA5) Dude, you forgot the sarc tag. Posted by: db at August 28, 2017 02:37 PM (NEz+K) ¯\_(ツ )_/¯

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2017 09:40 AM (vBeA5)

141 For the record, I am completely neutral about the Apario pardon. I don't care.
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The reason I care is that it is a clear message to McCain and Fake that the border is serious and the rule of law is not an individual Fed judge's rather skewed perception.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 28, 2017 09:40 AM (MIKMs)

142 Posted by: ScoggDog at August 28, 2017 02:39 PM (8yJ7M) Well yes, hence new and very different benedict. I'm not going to copypasta the MacIntyre quote here, but the just of it is, Rome has fallen, it's all about surviving the new dark ages.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 09:40 AM (dzmBR)

143 I knew besides Dennis Prager and me Kurt is one who thinks this is a ( non shootjng so far) Civil War

Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2017 09:40 AM (pPKG5)

144 >>> if they pardon treasonous trannys, Manning got a commutation, not a pardon. He's still a POS, but a pardon would have been worse.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 28, 2017 09:41 AM (D7Ygt)

145 >>>>I mean let's face it, we can't deconstruct the administrative state. The spending cuts necessary to balance the budget are pretty much unobtainable over even the long term, much less the medium term before our debt service equals revenue. Even if we score some victories here and there (we can go head and count this as a victory but my thoughts on the pardon trend from neutral to negative but all within the bounds of "it's Trump's prerogative as he has that power) they are all pretty hollow victories in the end.
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.At some point in in the near future, some projections say 2030, we will find out how it ends.  Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are projected to consume ever single dime the Fed takes in via taxes. 

If there aren't massive tax hikes the likes of which have never been seen in this Country, or deep cuts to those programs, everything else will have to be funded with script and that is not going to last long.   

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 28, 2017 09:41 AM (+Dllb)

146 136 True, but my simple counter would be "what if it's already lost?" Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 02:34 PM (dzmBR) Then Let It Burn. Or don't. Keep trying to prop it up. You'll fail. It's going to burn all the same. We're just dicking around over "When" at this point. I'm a big fan of not wasting my own effort. But other people's effort ? Meh. Whatevs. Posted by: ScoggDog at August 28, 2017 02:39 PM (8yJ7M) Scogg... you really think it's over? Serious question...

Posted by: kraken at August 28, 2017 09:41 AM (zSVEm)

147 And the evil anarchist is... Trump. Posted by: JB1000, EAJ at August 28, 2017 02:40 PM (3acYM) Nazi, not anarchist. Nazis have plans. Anarchists throw tantrums.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 28, 2017 09:42 AM (Mouru)

148 ACE LINKS THE "STORMER"!!!
NAZI!!! MONKEY-NAZI!!!

Posted by: keith olbermann at August 28, 2017 09:42 AM (mJ8mX)

149 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 28, 2017 02:41 PM Sad though it is, we can borrow to keep the lights on when that happens. The real question is what happens when servicing the debt equals [Federal Revenue]+$1

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 09:42 AM (dzmBR)

150 Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 02:40 PM (dzmBR) ... somebody needs a black rifle ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 28, 2017 09:42 AM (8yJ7M)

151 "I don't know if it's true or not but supposedly the person that filed the complaint was a relative of the judge that was hearing the case." Supposedly DWS' brother works at the DOJ and is involved in the Awan case, because there's no conflict yet. And he'll make damn sure no conflict ever comes to light, IYKWIM.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 28, 2017 09:42 AM (+7/1f)

152 Just stumbled on Norsemen on Netflix. Pretty funny. Kind of Mel Brooks like, but with deadpan Norwegian humor

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at August 28, 2017 09:42 AM (hMwEB)

153

 

Manning got a commutation, not a pardon. He's still a POS, but a pardon would have been worse.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 28, 2017 02:41 PM (D7Ygt)

 

 

Maybe but the taxpayer are the ones paying for his transition

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 28, 2017 09:43 AM (lKyWE)

154 Salon et al simply exist to troll the internet. The more outrage and retweets, responses, and links they get, the happier they are.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 09:43 AM (39g3+)

155 149. Trillion dollar coin - problem solved.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 28, 2017 09:43 AM (fA1SL)

156 Supposedly DWS' brother works at the DOJ and is involved in the Awan case, because there's no conflict yet. And he'll make damn sure no conflict ever comes to light, IYKWIM. Posted by: Ignoramus at August 28, 2017 02:42 PM (+7/1f) Yes to him working there, but he works in a different division, so no to rest. Hoft was (unsurprisingly) wrong.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 09:44 AM (dzmBR)

157 Civilization is a battle against entropy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 28, 2017 09:44 AM (QQ+il)

158 117 We have no one to represent us except Trump -one person cannot change this country by himself. We have no leaders in most of our government. Only followers afraid for their jobs. Posted by: Glenn John at August 28, 2017 02:34 PM (LilNs) -------- I think the only answer is a third party. Otherwise, we just keep electing different factions of the Uniparty, who are only concerned about themselves...not about the country or serving the people. Many articles have been written about this disconnect. It has not changed anything. We've got oligarchies controlling the flow of information & what you see. The banks continue to privatize profit & socialize debt. The constitutional framework is being obliterated. Trump bought us time. But if we are not proactive we squander this time. I've said this many times in many ways. The answer of what to do is clear. The appetite to do it doesn't seem there. Which makes me mucho sad.

Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 28, 2017 09:44 AM (O67g7)

159 Scogg... you really think it's over? Serious question... Posted by: kraken at August 28, 2017 02:41 PM (zSVEm) Stick a fork in it. I'll be supporting the next Pinochet.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 28, 2017 09:45 AM (8yJ7M)

160 I mean let's face it, we can't deconstruct the administrative state. The spending cuts necessary to balance the budget are pretty much unobtainable over even the long term, much less the medium term before our debt service equals revenue. Even if we score some victories here and there (we can go head and count this as a victory but my thoughts on the pardon trend from neutral to negative but all within the bounds of "it's Trump's prerogative as he has that power) they are all pretty hollow victories in the end.
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That's a good argument for ace's soft secession suggestion. That way, when the federal government collapses, we're already among fellow freedom lovers (and the commie scum and those who make excuses for them can rot amongst their own).

Posted by: Methos at August 28, 2017 09:45 AM (XQvuQ)

161 157 Civilization is a battle against entropy. Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 28, 2017 02:44 PM (QQ+il) Great... I read how that ends... with a whimper...

Posted by: kraken at August 28, 2017 09:45 AM (zSVEm)

162 >>>93 Actually I think the word "cuckold" works pretty well for the nevertrumps because they are so submissive, weak, and pathetic they let themselves be trampled hoping for some attaboy from their blood enemies. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor maybe, but it's been so frequently used in a racist connotation, with people expressly using "cuck" to mean specifically "cucked by a *black* guy," using memes of black children and so on, that the term is now pretty much radioactive. I'm not saying that anyone who says it is racist. but it is so commonly used by racists, and is almost universally branded racist, that to use it shows a certain amount of I-don't-care-if-you-think-i'm-racist sentiment. Not for me. One gets branded a racist for policy disputes. I don't want to also add "uses the word 'cuck'" into the evidence file the Deep State and its antifa enforcers are collecting.

Posted by: ace at August 28, 2017 09:45 AM (8rNrN)

163 (sigh) Okay, if it is a Civil War, I will have to clear those pesky field of fire blocking shrubberies. Societal breakdown sure causes a lot of extra work. Maybe moving to Wyoming is easier. Wait, supervolcano. Maybe Panhandle Idaho. Yeah.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at August 28, 2017 09:45 AM (e1mEI)

164 Telling the truth about Joe Arpaio is indicative of a servile desire to be penetrated. What would that truth be? Please, do enlighten us all. We're so ignorant of the facts.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 09:45 AM (39g3+)

165 No one has lost till the shooting is over, and that hasn't started yet. Just saying.

Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2017 09:46 AM (pPKG5)

166 Alas, Francisco Franco Bahamonde remains dead.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 28, 2017 09:46 AM (QQ+il)

167 Kurt Schlichter should be the Attorney General. Yawn... somebody say something?

Posted by: Rip Van Sessions at August 28, 2017 09:46 AM (O2RFr)

168 What will bring the Rule of Law back? Sooooo thirsty....

Posted by: The Tree of Liberty at August 28, 2017 09:46 AM (i0ykY)

169 I'm so glad the dickless, feckless fuckhole RINOs and NeverTrumpers of today will be the ones responsible for why our children will be fighting a bloody civil war tomorrow.

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at August 28, 2017 09:46 AM (+dsLj)

170 @158

I don't know anything about this group, but it could be the start of a new party:

https://www.greatamericapac.com/

Posted by: shibumi at August 28, 2017 09:46 AM (aT+Bx)

171 159 Scogg... you really think it's over? Serious question... Posted by: kraken at August 28, 2017 02:41 PM (zSVEm) Stick a fork in it. I'll be supporting the next Pinochet. Posted by: ScoggDog at August 28, 2017 02:45 PM (8yJ7M) Thanks for responding.. have always valued your opinion... oh, and "Pinochet" sounds like a wine... like " Pinochet Grigio"...

Posted by: kraken at August 28, 2017 09:47 AM (zSVEm)

172 Trillion dollar coin -- problem solved.
Nice 401k you got there, IRA. Be a shame if anything happened to it.

Posted by: the IRS at August 28, 2017 09:47 AM (mJ8mX)

173 Rome was once a Republic. With laws. That were being trashed by populist leaders of the poor. So I bet Schlicter's view is what Cicero figured when he condemned Catiline's followers to death without a trial. Then he got Caesar. And I'd bet that view is what Brutus and Cassius embraced when they assassinated Caesar. Of course they just got Augustus. And in the end, Rome got the Principate, and later the Empire. But those leaders of the Optimates sure showed those leaders of the Populares that both sides can trash the Rule of Law!

Posted by: Sam at August 28, 2017 09:47 AM (J87Sn)

174 Pinochet/Franco 2024! Immortan Joe/Bullet Farmer 2032!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at August 28, 2017 09:47 AM (fA1SL)

175 Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 28, 2017 02:44 PM (O67g7) Nope won't work. As soon as we try to make changes, they'll vote us out because Bread and Circuses. Uncle Milton was right about this. As long as the incentives are such that the wrong people are rewarded for doing the wrong thing we're screwed. I can't figure out how to make the incentives such that the wrong people are rewarded for doing the right thing. Posted by: Methos at August 28, 2017 02:45 PM (XQvuQ) Don't think this will work either, not without a second civil war. Do you think California is just going to let us go? To them we're cattle. We provide revenue to at least keep the farm up and running. Who just lets half their cattle walk away?

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 09:47 AM (dzmBR)

176 So have they started blaming the floods on Trump yet, or does the media not care since it's a red state?

Surrounded by flood waters here going a bit crazy not able to leave the house. I'm lucky b/c water didn't get in the house here but you wish you could get out and help people but it just keeps raining. I've been avoiding reading any national news or politics just assuming it's obnoxious.

Posted by: brak at August 28, 2017 09:48 AM (5iU/N)

177 I'm so glad the dickless, feckless fuckhole RINOs and NeverTrumpers of today will be the ones responsible for why our children will be fighting a bloody civil war tomorrow. Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall let the record show that I bitched about flags and statues...which had absofuckinglutely nothing to do what what ails this country.

Posted by: Mitt at August 28, 2017 09:48 AM (326rv)

178 I'll be supporting the next Pinochet.
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Amen

Posted by: Methos at August 28, 2017 09:49 AM (XQvuQ)

179 maybe, but it's been so frequently used in a racist connotation, with people expressly using "cuck" to mean specifically "cucked by a *black* guy," using memes of black children and so on, that the term is now pretty much radioactive. Which is odd to me, but I read a lot of historical fiction, so to me a cuckold is just someone whose wife slept with another guy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 09:49 AM (39g3+)

180 Back from the vet.  *takes clothes brush to cat hair*

Our son posted something by Ben Shapiro on Farcebook, and a woman who claims she knows Mr. D'oh and yours truly, began furiously trolling son.  Accused him of all kinds of crap, like *gasp* loving guns.  And "How can you call yourself an Eagle Scout when you're so far right???"

He asked her to please quit following him if she found him so offensive (because he's a conservative), and she continued to troll him until recently. 

Son can't remember her name, and that's too bad.  I'd love for the prog bitch to get in my face, and so would my husband.

Liberalism = mental illness

Posted by: cow college grad at August 28, 2017 09:49 AM (PY9jH)

181 Some local conservative mover-and-shaker just emailed me to ask if I had covered the Berkeley incidents yesterday. Here was my reply: --- Sorry to say, I did not document Sunday's events in Berkeley. In fact, I intentionally have refrained from reading any media reports of what may may not have happened -- I have little interest in submitting my psyche to anyone else's reality-filters any more. So, surprising as it may seem, I don't even know what is what I'm supposed to have documented. I imagine there was the usual violence, and the usual lies about it. I have became so cynical and so weary of the endless political street theater in the central Bay Area (SF, Oakland, Berkeley) that I feel little purpose is served in documenting it any more, because the public is already inoculated to its intended effects. Street protests always backfire politically, never achieving whatever goal the protesters pitifully imagine they're achieving. I don't even need to be there to point out the hypocrisy and idiocy anymore -- the crazies proudly point it out themselves. And the public looks on with a jaundiced eye and hardens their hearts further against whatever side the protesters are on. There are no more undecided voters. All of these shenanigans (by the crazy-left and its propaganda arm, the mainstream media) ultimately come down to attempts to sway the hearts and minds of the mythical Average American. But there are no convinceable hearts nor minds left to be swayed. All the political street theater in the world won't win one single vote for the Left; if it does sway anyone, it sways them to vote anti-Left. I consider myself semi-retired, and have no further plans to enter the fray any more. The only reason I even did a report about the Milo event earlier this year is that I literally stumbled into the middle of the action by accident as I was going somewhere else. That was a fluke. Since then, I have studiously avoided going to anywhere where a protest might be. In fact, on Saturday I had various appointments in San Francisco, and intentionally took wide berths to avoid all the various locations where protests were happening. That's how "over it" I am. That doesn't mean I will necessarily never do any more reportage -- who knows what the future may bring? -- but at this stage the psychology of the country has changed (the right is more keenly sophisticated, the left more brutish and tribal), and my services are no longer needed. I only ever started doing my reports in the first place back in 2003 because no one else seemed to be covering these political events. But with every passing year more and more camera-toters joined me, and by 2017 we have reached total saturation where literally every single person at every event is taking pictures and video. This makes my role irrelevant, and also makes it far too dangerous for me to be in the middle of things taking pictures of my own, as I will inevitably be captured by other photographers, and you can guarantee that Antifa and their ilk will take great glee in attempting to "doxx" me etc. -- and I just don't have time for that kind of mishigass any more. Yes, the Left is going through one of its periodic Great Virtue-Signalling Paroxysms, which in their delusion they think has something to do with reality. Sad, really. I say, let 'em convulse. Let the spittle foam on their lips. Let the flags burn. This is their primal scream therapy. And then, when its all over, in their millions the Average American will one again file into the voting booth and vote in total privacy according to their philosophical convictions, which generally are in antipodean opposition to every leftist fever-dream. Sorry to be so cynical and burned out. But at least I'm cynical in an optimistic way. I have such an extremely low opinion of the intellectual capacity, insight and morals of everyone on the Left that I feel they no longer need my helping hand to guide them over the cliff to the Chasm of Irrelevance -- they're diving in of their own volition, enthusiastically.

Posted by: zombie at August 28, 2017 09:49 AM (DQ4Fv)

182 Posted by: Leo Spaceman I didn't know the Hollowpoint School of Ad Hominem and Point Muddling by Deflection was waiting a couple weeks to start classes. No, fucknugget, it's not about What An Evil Person Joe Arpaio Is. It's not about "They Brought Down Someone Bad in a Shady Way, and That's Okay". It's not even about "Trump Shouldn't Notice This Because Bad Person". The left decided to attack a center of controversy through legal perversion, Trump offered a reversal. Who the target is is beside the point - reversing legal perversion is the utter and total point of a pardon, and maintains the rule of law. To hold that But Bad Person Go Free And Not Spanked is what rule of law and seeming lawfulness is about is utterly fucking retarded. Anyone who would defend the left or criticize striking back is a fool.

Posted by: Sporkatus at August 28, 2017 09:49 AM (eXSOZ)

183 Lol.  Off "cow college grad" sock.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 28, 2017 09:49 AM (PY9jH)

184 Great... I read how that ends... with a whimper... at .0001 Degrees Kelvin

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 28, 2017 09:50 AM (QQ+il)

185 No one has lost till the shooting is over, and that hasn't started yet.
Just saying.
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Another thing.

The media distorts EVERYTHING.

They are making it seem like ALL Americans are angry over the election, and that Antifa are the heroes standing up to the Nazis who have taken over the nation, led by Trump.

However... go to small town USA. Red or blue state. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of people do not have this view.

"Confirmation bias."

BTW... that's another reason why plane crashes are big news. People in the media fly a lot, so they get scared by plane crashes, and over cover them. They believe in BLM/Antifa, so they over-cover them to convince everyone else that this is happening and they should get on board with BLM/Antifa.

Posted by: shibumi at August 28, 2017 09:50 AM (aT+Bx)

186 Posted by: kraken at August 28, 2017 02:47 PM (zSVEm) You should find better opinions. Thirty days, dude. Stock up enough shit to last for thirty days. Lots of demographics shifts will occur in thirty days.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 28, 2017 09:50 AM (8yJ7M)

187 hugs, zombie

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at August 28, 2017 09:51 AM (hMwEB)

188 What would that truth be? Please, do enlighten us all. We're so ignorant of the facts. If you're really interested, as much as I don't like the guy, Gabe Malor has written a fair bit about the guy's shady actions. Apparently he's not above despotic tactics of intimidation, lying, political thuggery etc to get his way. Don't get me wrong, I think the guy has it right when it comes to illegal immigration and handling prisoners, but it seems Arpaio is pretty nasty generally.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 28, 2017 09:51 AM (jhqr1)

189 >>>Maybe but the taxpayer are the ones paying for his transition That would be true even if he was still in prison.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 28, 2017 09:51 AM (D7Ygt)

190 >>>>Nice 401k you got there, IRA. Be a shame if anything happened to it.
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.Problem with that idea is that it only gives the Fed a 4-5 year cushion and then it is all gone. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 28, 2017 09:51 AM (+Dllb)

191 http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/08/maxine-waters-charged-with-ethics-violations.php If only it leads to something

Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2017 09:51 AM (pPKG5)

192 So I bet Schlicter's view is what Cicero figured when he condemned Catiline's followers to death without a trial. Then he got Caesar. ...seriously? You think Rome was ruined by populists? Read some history at some point in your life, will you? Rome failed because it abandoned its constitution, was being run by the most wealthy roughshod over everyone else, relied on slave labor, and extended its self far beyond the possibility of control, only able to sustain its self by steady conquest pulling in piles of cash so it could keep raining welfare on its subjects to calm the masses.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 09:52 AM (39g3+)

193 He's writing about the pardon of Joe Arpaio. His major point is that the Rule of Law has been abandoned -- destroyed, really -- by the left in favor of pure will-to-power power politics, and it's silly for what he calls the "Fredocons" to continue pretending we're in a state of innocence and perfection and normalcy. Nope. http://preview.tinyurl.com/yb77zurr Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2017 02:16 PM (vBeA5) Yup. I read your piece. This jumped out: Perhaps the right and Republicans have been overly cautious--history has certainly given plenty examples of why they ought to be--but such caution should not be conflated with being willing quislings." Such an overabundance of 'caution' as exercised by several national-level Republican politicians is so close to willing collaboration as to make the distinction moot. For example, how about that Obamacare repeal deal? Many of them are, in fact, quislings. Their caution has become acquiescence and--in the case of John McCain--active collusion. You're right that we must tread carefully. I get it. I also get that we'll lose everything if we don't learn how to play hardball politics as well or better than our opponents. On the plus side, Mitt Romney lost like a true gentleman.

Posted by: troyriser at August 28, 2017 09:52 AM (Fw5cQ)

194 Eventually we'll need a new dictionary.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 28, 2017 09:52 AM (IqV8l)

195 Schlichter is right. It's correct now and it was correct when I started grumbling and wanting a freakin' plan six or seven years ago. The GOP and its apologists are less than worthless. New party or GTFO.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 28, 2017 09:52 AM (AM1GF)

196 Don't get me wrong, I think the guy has it right when it comes to illegal immigration and handling prisoners, but it seems Arpaio is pretty nasty generally. But that's a separate issue from the pardon, which is their complaint. They aren't saying "Arpaio is a shady guy we don't like" they are saying "Trump violated justice by pardoning him and is destroying the rule of law!!!1!1!" Totally different issue.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 09:53 AM (39g3+)

197 Aww, c'mon guys! We can totally vote our way out of this! Moral high ground!  Can't sink to their level!  Better managed socialism!  Let us go boldly forward into the future, comrades!

Uh, maybe not those last couple things....I mean, sure, they're the ultimate goal, but we're not supposed to remind you rubes of that.

Uh, maybe not that last little bit there, either.

Send money!

Posted by: Conservatism, Inc., the GOP, and about 1/2 of the ostensible "Right" at August 28, 2017 09:53 AM (rznWS)

198 The plan was to remove Chaney and impeach and remove Dubya. I think Dubya cut a deal to stop that and Scooter was used to seal-the-deal. Novak and Russert untimely deaths seem reminiscent of Jack Ruby and LBJ. Dustin Hoffman's character in Wag-the-Dog had an untimely end also. Stranger things.

Posted by: Mudd at August 28, 2017 09:53 AM (cfHE9)

199 And in the end, Rome got the Principate, and later the Empire. But those leaders of the Optimates sure showed those leaders of the Populares that both sides can trash the Rule of Law! 1) Surrender 2) ??? 3) Victory!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 28, 2017 09:53 AM (QQ+il)

200 zombie Thanks for fighting the good fight

Posted by: Rip Van Sessions at August 28, 2017 09:53 AM (O2RFr)

201 QVANDO PODECES TE REGI EORVM FECERVNT, SAM?

Posted by: zombie tiberius gracchus at August 28, 2017 09:53 AM (mJ8mX)

202 If Arpaio broke the law with his jail, why didn't they prosecute him for that and put a stop to it? If he broke a law by enforcing federal law over local/state law, why didn't they indict him for that? The judge had no broken law to prosecute so he made something up retroactively. Why didn't the judge immediately stop Arpaio with an injunction like a judge stopped Trump's temp ban on terrorists? Because it's all BS, that's why.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 28, 2017 09:54 AM (3myMJ)

203 maybe, but it's been so frequently used in a racist connotation, with people expressly using "cuck" to mean specifically "cucked by a *black* guy," using memes of black children and so on, that the term is now pretty much radioactive. I'm not saying that anyone who says it is racist. but it is so commonly used by racists, and is almost universally branded racist, that to use it shows a certain amount of I-don't-care-if-you-think-i'm-racist sentiment. Not for me. One gets branded a racist for policy disputes. I don't want to also add "uses the word 'cuck'" into the evidence file the Deep State and its antifa enforcers are collecting. Posted by: ace Oh dear, Ace -- they're starting to get to even you, now. That's sad. The word "racist is being treated like an unstoppable mega-weapon possessed only by the left, the Atomic Bomb of political assassination which only affects us and which we are forbidden to use. But I think the term "racist" has lost all sting. I wrote this definition for "racist" way back in 2005 (!!!), 12 years ago: racist - A statement of surrender during an argument. When two people or disputants are engaged in an acrimonious debate, the side that first says "Racist!" has conceded defeat. Synonymous with saying "Resign" during a chess game, or "Uncle" during a schoolyard fight. Originally, the term was meant to indicate that one side was accusing the other of being racist, but once it was noticed that people only resorted to this tactic when all other arguments had been exhausted, it acquired its new meaning of "indicating one's own concession of defeat."

Posted by: zombie at August 28, 2017 09:54 AM (DQ4Fv)

204 175 Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 28, 2017 02:44 PM (O67g7) Nope won't work. As soon as we try to make changes, they'll vote us out because Bread and Circuses. Uncle Milton was right about this. As long as the incentives are such that the wrong people are rewarded for doing the wrong thing we're screwed. I can't figure out how to make the incentives such that the wrong people are rewarded for doing the right thing. Posted by: Methos at August 28, 2017 02:45 PM (XQvuQ) Don't think this will work either, not without a second civil war. Do you think California is just going to let us go? To them we're cattle. We provide revenue to at least keep the farm up and running. Who just lets half their cattle walk away? Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 02:47 PM (dzmBR) ---------- So we just assume this, but don't try? There is no evidence to back up what you are saying. We are in a totally new place in history, new dynamics. 325 million Americans are not agitating for a civil war. But the siren song for this can be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Most countries have more than 2 parties. We are the exception in Western Civilization. This is the first time in my life that I believe one can be built. The election of Trump shows people are disenchanted on both sides. But, we can agree to disagree.

Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 28, 2017 09:55 AM (O67g7)

205 >>>>So have they started blaming the floods on Trump yet, or does the media not care since it's a red state?
.
.
.The Charitable Humans tax exempt "charity" had some choice words to say about Texas in some tweets.  Breitbart has the link.

"Any State that elects a Republican needs to be incinerated, there have to be severe consequences."

They put out an apology where they blamed their twitter coordinator. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 28, 2017 09:55 AM (+Dllb)

206 Don't think this will work either, not without a second civil war. Do you think California is just going to let us go? To them we're cattle. We provide revenue to at least keep the farm up and running. Who just lets half their cattle walk away?
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A second civil war (or second war for independence) may be inevitable (in which case there's no point trying to avoid it). The upside of waiting for the federal beast to collapse through bankruptcy is that it won't be around to weigh in on the outcome.

Also, I'm not sure how much of a problem CA can be if the free states shut off their water.

Posted by: Methos at August 28, 2017 09:55 AM (XQvuQ)

207 >>>>Nice 401k you got there, IRA. Be a shame if anything happened to it. . . .Problem with that idea is that it only gives the Fed a 4-5 year cushion and then it is all gone. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 28, 2017 02:51 PM (+Dllb) Fiscally responsible planning ahead is not one of their strong points...

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2017 09:55 AM (vBeA5)

208 Latest insanity: 

WaPo headline, "How Trump is Enabling Famine."

http://tinyurl.com/y8jhynud

Democracy dies eating grubs and worms.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 28, 2017 09:55 AM (PY9jH)

209 If you're really interested, as much as I don't like the guy, Gabe Malor has written a fair bit about the guy's shady actions. Apparently he's not above despotic tactics of intimidation, lying, political thuggery etc to get his way.

Don't get me wrong, I think the guy has it right when it comes to illegal immigration and handling prisoners, but it seems Arpaio is pretty nasty generally.
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No matter WHAT Obama did, the left supported him. No.Matter.What.

I don't think that the Arpaio pardon impacts any of us, and yet now some of us are questioning Trump.

Just like the RINOs question Trump.

Democrats have unity. They do not question a Democrat President.

Conservatives and Republicans don't have that unity. We could learn something from them.

/also... not impacted by Arpaio. Don't care.

Posted by: shibumi at August 28, 2017 09:55 AM (aT+Bx)

210 My take is Sheriff Joe's main crime to Leftists was locking up illegals, so that axe to grind is whats making both Leftists and Rhinos to take it out on Pres DT hoping for Leftist brownie points.

Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2017 09:55 AM (pPKG5)

211 Aww, c'mon guys! We can totally vote our way out of this! Moral high ground! Can't sink to their level! Better managed socialism! Let us go boldly forward into the future, comrades! Uh, maybe not those last couple things....I mean, sure, they're the ultimate goal, but we're not supposed to remind you rubes of that. Uh, maybe not that last little bit there, either. Send money! Posted by: Conservatism, Inc., the GOP, and about 1/2 of the ostensible "Right" at August 28, 2017 02:53 PM (rznWS) ========= Please clap.

Posted by: Heb! at August 28, 2017 09:56 AM (vg8iE)

212 But that's a separate issue from the pardon, which is their complaint. They aren't saying "Arpaio is a shady guy we don't like" they are saying "Trump violated justice by pardoning him and is destroying the rule of law!!!1!1!" Totally different issue. I was simply responding to what one might consider "the Truth worth knowing" about Arpaio.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 28, 2017 09:56 AM (jhqr1)

213 Just stumbled on Norsemen on Netflix. Pretty funny. Kind of Mel Brooks like, but with deadpan Norwegian humor Posted by: @votermom I pimped it twice last week. Binge watched it in two days.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at August 28, 2017 09:56 AM (T2Zv1)

214 The Judge Ruled: 'If you like your Narco Kidnappings, you can keep your Narco Kidnappings.'

Posted by: garrett at August 28, 2017 09:57 AM (8HxgZ)

215 Gov. Abbot presser on.

Texans should fall on their knees and thank G-d Abortion Barbie isn't Gov.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 28, 2017 09:57 AM (PY9jH)

216 Aww, c'mon guys! We can totally vote our way out of this! Moral high ground! Can't sink to their level! Better managed socialism! Let us go boldly forward into the future, comrades!
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Sure we can.

Primary ALL Rinos.

Start a new party.

Watch RINOs become Democrats who are not electable because they are too white.



Posted by: shibumi at August 28, 2017 09:57 AM (aT+Bx)

217 If you're really interested, as much as I don't like the guy, Gabe Malor has written a fair bit about the guy's shady actions. Apparently he's not above despotic tactics of intimidation, lying, political thuggery etc to get his way. Don't get me wrong, I think the guy has it right when it comes to illegal immigration and handling prisoners, but it seems Arpaio is pretty nasty generally. Posted by: bonhomme If this was true, then they would have been able to get him for felonies.They had every advantage. And yet. meanwhile, the legal genius that is gabe stated that there were no problems with gays serving in the military because...get this, there had been no reported complaints....Cause that's how the military works. Announce another privileged minority from on high, and wait for someone stupid enough down below to complain. He has done good work. He has also churned out shit.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 28, 2017 09:57 AM (326rv)

218

 

That would be true even if he was still in prison.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 28, 2017 02:51 PM (D7Ygt)

 

 

That was my point.   He spent a few years at club fed and got his transition paid for  while  he   was  there   courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 28, 2017 09:58 AM (lKyWE)

219 but with deadpan Norwegian humor Isn't it good Norwegian wood?

Posted by: Zombie John Lennon at August 28, 2017 09:58 AM (Fj4G0)

220 The Charitable Humans tax exempt "charity" had some choice words to say about Texas in some tweets. Breitbart has the link. "Any State that elects a Republican needs to be incinerated, there have to be severe consequences." They put out an apology where they blamed their twitter coordinator. Posted by: The Great White Scotsman They need their tax exemption looked at.

Posted by: rickb223 [/s][/b][/i][/u] at August 28, 2017 09:59 AM (T2Zv1)

221 Totally different issue. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 02:53 PM (39g3+) The problem here is that "rule of law" is a messy phrase. There was a court order, he ignored it. There are methods for dealing with court orders one thinks are wrong. Was it right when Obama ignored all those court orders? Does that mean Trump shouldn't have pardoned him? Eh, as noted, I'm pretty much neutral on that. Trump's power he can use it as he wants. Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 28, 2017 02:55 PM (O67g7) Try. Yes. Indeed, I did more this cycle to push small government conservatism than I have ever before. I'm just not betting the farm on it.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 09:59 AM (dzmBR)

222 That was my point.He spent a few years at club fed and got his transition paid forwhile he was there courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer I'd have done it for free.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Have Hedge Clippers, Will Travel at August 28, 2017 09:59 AM (QQ+il)

223 However... go to small town USA. Red or blue state. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of people do not have this view. Posted by: shibumi at August 28, 2017 02:50 PM (aT+Bx) I live in small town USA. They have zero fvcks to give about the "classical liberal" position espoused by Friedman and others. They have ran out of patience for "them long-haired hippy type pinko fags." We're going to get American Fascism. And it will be nothing like what Jonah Goldberg predicted. It will be nothing like what the Left hoped for.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 28, 2017 09:59 AM (8yJ7M)

224 You're right that we must tread carefully. I get it. I also get that we'll lose everything if we don't learn how to play hardball politics as well or better than our opponents. On the plus side, Mitt Romney lost like a true gentleman. Posted by: troyriser at August 28, 2017 02:52 PM (Fw5cQ) But the street violence and the politicians are just the veneer. Focus too much on that and you ignore the core problems under the surface. Any real actions that have a chance of changing anything will be fought sub-rosa, and the fight won before the vast majority of people even know there was a fight.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2017 10:00 AM (vBeA5)

225 what's your plan

I don't have a plan but I'll note that the tactic of Trump's tweeting til their heads actually explode is already working in McCain's case.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/u][/s] at August 28, 2017 10:00 AM (FhXTo)

226 No matter WHAT Obama did, the left supported him. No.Matter.What. I don't think that the Arpaio pardon impacts any of us, and yet now some of us are questioning Trump. I'm not questioning Trump. I don't think this pardon fractures the Rule of Law. I honestly couldn't care less about Arpaio's pardon. I'm just saying Arpaio seems to be a nasty piece of work.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 28, 2017 10:01 AM (jhqr1)

227 Latest insanity:

WaPo headline, "How Trump is Enabling Famine."

http://tinyurl.com/y8jhynud

Democracy dies eating grubs and worms.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 28, 2017 02:55 PM (PY9jH)

==================================



They forgot War, Pestilence and Death.


Posted by: grammie winger, Who'll stop the rain? at August 28, 2017 10:01 AM (lwiT4)

228 >>> The word "racist is being treated like an unstoppable mega-weapon possessed only by the left, the Atomic Bomb of political assassination which only affects us and which we are forbidden to use. words have the meanings communally agreed to. We agree "spoon" means a utensil with an oval concave end for sipping liquid. If we agreed it meant a raygun, it would mean a raygun. If most people using the word "cuck" mean it as a jibe about giving your wife up to The Blacks (as they would say, well, actually they'd say worse), then that largely is what it means. We don't have private vocabularies. Private vocabularies would not serve the purpose of communication, as we would not understand what each other's private definitions of words are. One could claim that saying "Jew York City" isn't racist, it's merely pointing out that there are a lot of jews there. One could claim it's descriptive and not derogatory. But most people who say Jew York City are in fact anti-semites. Using the word is a signal that one is an anti-semite -- or, at least, does not at all mind being counted among them.

Posted by: ace at August 28, 2017 10:02 AM (8rNrN)

229 The garment wrending WSJ editorial fags made a similar non sequitur. Their argument basically comes down to "rule of law". But that's after they noted Arpaio's conviction was political, evidenced by the DoJ irrelevancies introduced at trial and probably legally unjustified as per the 2012 SCOTUS ruling. But "rule of law" so hang him or something. Assholes. Do they not understand what sophism is? "Rule of law" is nothing but an artifice idiots pull out of their ass when they want to feel good about their societal sine qua non's being reamed up there by some political malcontent. "Republicans", quote intentional, reflexively align with their liberal brethren, over common sense by the way, when their shiny objects for dummies (AKA "principles") are somehow compromise by opposition politicians who know they will react like Pavlov's dogs or Pinocchio to their string pulling. Yet they don't see it, when a fucking space alien enjoying his first day on earth would know he's being jerked off. Dunces.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2017 10:02 AM (A7DN1)

230 223 However... go to small town USA. Red or blue state. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of people do not have this view. Posted by: shibumi at August 28, 2017 02:50 PM (aT+Bx) I live in small town USA. They have zero fvcks to give about the "classical liberal" position espoused by Friedman and others. They have ran out of patience for "them long-haired hippy type pinko fags." We're going to get American Fascism. And it will be nothing like what Jonah Goldberg predicted. It will be nothing like what the Left hoped for. Posted by: ScoggDog at August 28, 2017 02:59 PM (8yJ7M) Once again, all this takes me back to Germany, in the 20's and 30's..... pretty unnerving...

Posted by: kraken at August 28, 2017 10:02 AM (zSVEm)

231 They forgot War, Pestilence and Death. Posted by: grammie winger Still not as good as Tinker to Evans to Chance

Posted by: Bruce at August 28, 2017 10:02 AM (8ikIW)

232

 

"Trump violated justice by pardoning him and is destroying the rule of law!!!1!1!"

 

 

The vast majority  of   people   convicted of misdemeanors don't serve their sentence in jail.Most cases are plea bargined down and usually end up with community service

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at August 28, 2017 10:02 AM (lKyWE)

233 Phoenix is experiencing 3rd World City type crime. Nearly all of it is related to Border Crime that the Federal Government refused to address for the past 20+ years. I could care less about Arpaio's Tactics.

Posted by: garrett at August 28, 2017 10:02 AM (8HxgZ)

234 with people expressly using "cuck" to mean specifically "cucked by a *black* guy," That is the standard porn usage of the term. So that must be the AOSHQ style guide.

Posted by: wooga at August 28, 2017 10:02 AM (Fj4G0)

235 "IRA" Those are investments controlled by the Primary Dealers and the Federal Reserve. That will only be nationalized if people start withdrawing funds in mass and probably not then. Just like Walmart is the recipient of WIC and SNAP.

Posted by: Mudd at August 28, 2017 10:03 AM (cfHE9)

236 "Any State that elects a Republican needs to be incinerated, there have to be severe consequences." Well, aren't they precious?/s And FTR, I really don't like "I hope so and so dies in a fire" either because I knew someone whose parents died in a fire;

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 28, 2017 10:04 AM (iVOAv)

237 some good points. As Steyn pointed out on Rush a few years back, or maybe in a column, I don't know...why is conservatism all about fighting a bunch of foreign wars overseas but ZERO effort at defending ourselves at home? All in all, a good rant from schlix. The GOP currently only exists to criticize trump, for whatever that's worth. They'll find out in 2018 when we start primarying these assholes (right?)

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 28, 2017 10:04 AM (DQdye)

238 It may be time to hang out the Goliad Flag.

Posted by: Infidel at August 28, 2017 10:04 AM (mxS7w)

239 "Trump violated justice by pardoning him and is destroying the rule of law!!!1!1!" The vast majority of people convicted of misdemeanors don't serve their sentence in jail.Most cases are plea bargined down and usually end up with community service Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic I advocated committing felonies with a shotgun and not only am I considered to be a legal genius, but I probably would be president if I had run.

Posted by: Delaware's own Joe Biden at August 28, 2017 10:04 AM (326rv)

240 Though, I have to say, when he was in his #nevertrump phase, I thought he was a prissy Hillary fangirl, but he got over it. Posted by: blaster at August 28, 2017 02:14 PM (1GJ2R) I think he was one of the few pundits who actually took a look around and noticed that the angry people had a serious point. He may not agree with everything they are upset about but in general they are angry for a legitimate reason.

Posted by: WOPR (Colonial Marines can't use harsh language) at August 28, 2017 10:04 AM (J70i0)

241 Hymie-Town is the accepted usage, ace.

Posted by: rev jessse jacksone at August 28, 2017 10:04 AM (mJ8mX)

242 Guys, point of order, please be careful on the copy, paste, reply. This is the second time something that was said by someone else has been attributed to me. No one likes someone else's words out in their mouth. Thank you. :-) Specific Example Below. None of those words are mine. ------------------------ 221 Totally different issue. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 02:53 PM (39g3+) The problem here is that "rule of law" is a messy phrase. There was a court order, he ignored it. There are methods for dealing with court orders one thinks are wrong. Was it right when Obama ignored all those court orders? Does that mean Trump shouldn't have pardoned him? Eh, as noted, I'm pretty much neutral on that. Trump's power he can use it as he wants. Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 28, 2017 02:55 PM (O67g7) Try. Yes. Indeed, I did more this cycle to push small government conservatism than I have ever before. I'm just not betting the farm on it. Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 02:59 PM (dzmBR)

Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 28, 2017 10:04 AM (O67g7)

243 >>>>Don't get me wrong, I think the guy has it right when it comes to illegal immigration and handling prisoners, but it seems Arpaio is pretty nasty generally.

But that's a separate issue from the pardon, which is their complaint. They aren't saying "Arpaio is a shady guy we don't like" they are saying "Trump violated justice by pardoning him and is destroying the rule of law!!!1!1!"

Totally different issue.
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.He may have been an a$$hole but he wasn't a criminal breaking any laws. 

He had both the DOJ and the FBI up his a$$ with a microscope for years and they couldn't find anything, because there wasn't anything to find.  Sort of like "Russia, Russia, Russia" and Trump.

It was 100% a political hit job from day one and Trump did the right thing.  Now he needs to move on and ignore it.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 28, 2017 10:04 AM (+Dllb)

244 Is the press conference on yet?

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 28, 2017 10:04 AM (RD7QR)

245 I miss you zombie! My stepdad/dad passed a few weeks ago. I remember that we had a late night discussion once about our similar situations on the dad front. Anyways, his passing made me think of you .... hope you are well.

Posted by: lin-duh fell at August 28, 2017 10:04 AM (kufk0)

246 One could claim that saying "Jew York City" isn't racist, it's merely pointing out that there are a lot of jews there. One could claim it's descriptive and not derogatory. You mean Hymietown? Nobody calls it Jew York City.

Posted by: Rev. Jesse Jackson at August 28, 2017 10:05 AM (1GJ2R)

247 Not for me. One gets branded a racist for policy disputes. I don't want to also add "uses the word 'cuck'" into the evidence file the Deep State and its antifa enforcers are collecting. Posted by: ace Oh dear, Ace -- they're starting to get to even you, now. That's sad. The word "racist is being treated like an unstoppable mega-weapon possessed only by the left, the Atomic Bomb of political assassination which only affects us and which we are forbidden to use. But I think the term "racist" has lost all sting. I wrote this definition for "racist" way back in 2005 (!!!), 12 years ago: racist - A statement of surrender during an argument. When two people or disputants are engaged in an acrimonious debate, the side that first says "Racist!" has conceded defeat. Synonymous with saying "Resign" during a chess game, or "Uncle" during a schoolyard fight. Originally, the term was meant to indicate that one side was accusing the other of being racist, but once it was noticed that people only resorted to this tactic when all other arguments had been exhausted, it acquired its new meaning of "indicating one's own concession of defeat." Posted by: zombie at August 28, 2017 02:54 PM (DQ4Fv) Ace is 100% correct here. While the word "cuckold" certainly doesn't have the connotation, the abbreviated "cuck" does. "Cuck" is a shibboleth indicating (pseudo)-intellectual kinship with White Identitarians. Even if you don't agree with them, you are nonetheless signalling to others that you are, or at least comfortable with them.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2017 10:05 AM (vBeA5)

248 Posted by: zombie at August 28, 2017 02:54 PM (DQ4Fv) Excellent, zombie. And who are the racists? Whoever the Left says are racists. It's automatic and can't be argued. And even though there is no law against it, the Left can label anyone they please with no process and ruin their lives.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 28, 2017 10:05 AM (3myMJ)

249 If most people using the word "cuck" mean it as a jibe about giving your wife up to The Blacks (as they would say, well, actually they'd say worse), then that largely is what it means. I am not the most worldly guy on earth but I had never known that particular usage of the term until this whole alt-right thing blew up late last year.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 10:05 AM (39g3+)

250 >>We agree "spoon" means a utensil with an oval concave end for sipping liquid. There is no spoon.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 28, 2017 10:05 AM (/tuJf)

251 Not quite the same as pardoning 60K folks by autopen or pardoning a guy who was on the run from the law. Shame. Sad. uh..right...NOT!

Posted by: andrew jarbacka at August 28, 2017 10:05 AM (DQdye)

252 @206: "Also, I'm not sure how much of a problem CA can be if the free states shut off their water."

That may actually be one of the funniest things ever.    Yeah, people who have shown absolutely *zero* interest in engaging in any sort of illegal/violent behavior are all just gonna up and agree to genocide against tens of millions of people.

Posted by: Fa at August 28, 2017 10:05 AM (rznWS)

253 I advocated committing felonies with a shotgun and not only am I considered to be a legal genius, but I probably would be president if I had run. Posted by: Delaware's own Joe Biden at August 28, 2017 03:04 PM (326rv) Dude, all that's missing is a podium with a cool seal that says "Office of the Bizarro World Alternate Universe President."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 28, 2017 10:06 AM (Mouru)

254 Per zombie's comment about street demonstrations being counterproductive, I would argue that this is especially true in the age of Trump.

If those "Unite The Right" strutting and posturing imbeciles down in Charlottesville hadn't existed, someone on the left would have had to have artificially cooked them up in a lab. Hugely useful for the left's purposes.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 28, 2017 10:06 AM (ujwCG)

255 Good ride zombie. Been with you from the beginning. We still value your input, so don't be a stranger.

Posted by: easy at August 28, 2017 10:06 AM (yOqwj)

256 But most people who say Jew York City are in fact anti-semites. Using the word is a signal that one is an anti-semite
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Agreed.  CBD uses it a lot.  Someone should take a look at that guy.

Posted by: grammie winger, Who'll stop the rain? at August 28, 2017 10:07 AM (lwiT4)

257 Zombie, you earned a good vacation from all that nonsense. I'm right there with you. We are past the point of protesting now.

Posted by: Max Power at August 28, 2017 10:07 AM (QCc6B)

258 Trying to make "cuck" a non-racist term is like trying to use "rim job" in a non-sexual manner. Sure it is technically possible, but not realistic in the modern era.

Posted by: wooga at August 28, 2017 10:07 AM (Fj4G0)

259 I thought spoon was when she wants to snuggle but doesn't want you in her no-no place.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 28, 2017 10:07 AM (gIRsn)

260 Help me, Keith!!! I'm being socked too!!!

Posted by: rev jessse jacksone at August 28, 2017 10:07 AM (mJ8mX)

261 gay wedding cake and your income tax: ENFORCED! the border and immigration: THAT'S NOT WHO WE ARE! yeah, fuck you Uncle Sam.

Posted by: The Original REAL Galactic Lord Sir Covfefe at August 28, 2017 10:07 AM (nFwvY)

262 "Once again, all this takes me back to Germany, in the 20's and 30's..... pretty unnerving..." Germany isn't the size of the US and had a more homogeneous population. People in Germany vote religiously and drive the speed limit. They also spend all their time metaphorically sodomizing each other. People in the US don't take kindly to people sticking fingers up their ass.

Posted by: Mudd at August 28, 2017 10:07 AM (cfHE9)

263 Posted by: zombie at August 28, 2017 02:49 PM (DQ4Fv) I remember reading your reports on protests back then. I believe you were linked at pajamas media. Thanks for all your hard work.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 28, 2017 10:08 AM (Ri/rl)

264 Really, the left wants to have a discussion on the "rule of law"? Seriously? These people are insane and need a mirror... what the actual fvck?!?!?

Posted by: lin-duh fell at August 28, 2017 10:08 AM (kufk0)

265 Cuck is a stupid made up word with no real definition. I don't use such words.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 28, 2017 10:08 AM (3myMJ)

266 I'm really not happy with people wishing for Pinochet. The guy was a horrndous murdering piece of crap. He didn't limit himself to guys you don't like, any more than any dictator does. His first concern was holding power, and that meant destroying enemies. Did he do some economic good for the country while in power? Yeah. So did Hitler and Moussolini. fighting against my enemies isn't enough to justify horrors and evil. Stalin was our ally in WW2, he fought Nazis harder than anyone. But is he someone I admire or want in power? The instant we surrender any liberties for victory or to fight against an enemy, all of us suffer, and its damned unlikely we get any of them back.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 10:08 AM (39g3+)

267 Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 28, 2017 03:04 PM FFS, I put quotes in italics. As I keep doing. As is the best we can do around here. But fine I'll stop streamlining.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 10:08 AM (dzmBR)

268 zombie, you've been a warrior and an inspiration.  Please don't leave the HQ.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 28, 2017 10:09 AM (PY9jH)

269 Is there a posted somewhere of all the "acceptable" words?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 28, 2017 10:09 AM (IqV8l)

270 The judge had no broken law to prosecute so he made something up retroactively. Why didn't the judge immediately stop Arpaio with an injunction like a judge stopped Trump's temp ban on terrorists? Because it's all BS, that's why. _____________________ Yes, it is. The court order that Arpaio supposedly violated was 40 pages long. Every witness at trial testified that the order was unclear. Even the prosecutor admitted that parts of the order were ambiguous. Susan Bolton, the federal district judge who found Arpaio in contempt, is a hack. She typically decides (in advance of the trial or the hearing) how she is going to rule, and then she writes her opinion. The left in Phoenix (and Obama's DOJ) went after Arpaio on the bogus contempt charge because they could never successfully pin on him any of the other alleged "crimes" Arpaio supposedly committed. That's because Arpaio didn't commit any crimes; he simply tried to enforce the law, and the left wouldn't tolerate that.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 28, 2017 10:09 AM (QbiyL)

271 Once again, all this takes me back to Germany, in the 20's and 30's..... pretty unnerving... Posted by: kraken at August 28, 2017 03:02 PM (zSVEm) Damn ... you're almost as old as Vic !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 28, 2017 10:09 AM (8yJ7M)

272 >>>I am not the most worldly guy on earth but I had never known that particular usage of the term until this whole alt-right thing blew up late last year. even before that, most cuck porn involves black guys specifically. That just seems to be what the turn-on is.

Posted by: ace at August 28, 2017 10:09 AM (8rNrN)

273 "I thought spoon was when she wants to snuggle but doesn't want you in her no-no place." Maybe it's a backdoor invitation.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 28, 2017 10:09 AM (3myMJ)

274 you are nonetheless signalling to others that you are, or at least comfortable with them Well, I certainly wouldn't kick a hot girl who said "cuck" out of bed for eating crackers. DOH HO HO

Posted by: Sporkatus at August 28, 2017 10:09 AM (eXSOZ)

275 Latest insanity: WaPo headline, "How Trump is Enabling Famine." http://tinyurl.com/y8jhynud Democracy dies eating grubs and worms. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 28, 2017 02:55 PM (PY9jH) ================================== They forgot War, Pestilence and Death. Posted by: grammie winger, Who'll stop the rain? at August 28, 2017 03:01 PM (lwiT4) ======= I won't sully myself as to click on a link to those insane scribblings. What exactly is he supposedly doing to cause a famine?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 28, 2017 10:09 AM (vg8iE)

276 I am not the most worldly guy on earth but I had never known that particular usage of the term until this whole alt-right thing blew up late last year. Same. I learn all sorts of awful things on the Interwebs.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 28, 2017 10:09 AM (jhqr1)

277 >>even before that, most cuck porn involves black guys specifically. That just seems to be what the turn-on is. Meh - No Tan Lines.

Posted by: Shep Smith at August 28, 2017 10:10 AM (8HxgZ)

278 "Trump violated justice by pardoning him and is destroying the rule of law!!!1!1!" The vast majority of people convicted of misdemeanors don't serve their sentence in jail.Most cases are plea bargined down and usually end up with community service Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic Uh... no President Trump used a Power of LAW given him by the highest Law of the Land, the Constitution... To correct an Injustice.

Posted by: Don Q. at August 28, 2017 10:10 AM (NgKpN)

279 Texas, you have a great governor.  I'll repeat what I said up-thread, thank G-d you didn't elect Abortion Barbie.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 28, 2017 10:11 AM (PY9jH)

280 266 I'm really not happy with people wishing for Pinochet. Learn to accept disappointment.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 28, 2017 10:12 AM (8yJ7M)

281 >>I am not the most worldly guy on earth but I had never known that particular usage of the term until this whole alt-right thing blew up late last year. Ditto. Frankly, it sounds as stupid to me as alt-right.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 28, 2017 10:12 AM (/tuJf)

282 Same. I learn all sorts of awful things on the Interwebs. Posted by: bonhomme at August 28, 2017 03:09 PM (jhqr1) The dumb thing about the blow up is that by itself "Cuckold" sorta makes sense as a description. The GOP are clearly engaged in another relationship (i.e. big business and big government.) And we voters turn a blind eye to it (or at least did for purposes of the metaphor.) But alas the spencer crowed is pretty good at actual appropriation and so they managed to pull it towards their race war. Now, they had a lot of help, because the media wants to make all conservatives racists.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 10:12 AM (dzmBR)

283 "Cuck" is a shibboleth indicating (pseudo)-intellectual kinship with White Identitarians. Even if you don't agree with them, you are nonetheless signalling to others that you are, or at least comfortable with them.
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Or you are less concerned being associated with them than being associated with the go-along-get-along wing of the GOP.

Because cowardice in the face of the enemy is a greater stain on one's character than 'racism'.

Posted by: Methos at August 28, 2017 10:12 AM (XQvuQ)

284 254 Per zombie's comment about street demonstrations being counterproductive, I would argue that this is especially true in the age of Trump. If those "Unite The Right" strutting and posturing imbeciles down in Charlottesville hadn't existed, someone on the left would have had to have artificially cooked them up in a lab. Hugely useful for the left's purposes. Posted by: torquewrench at August 28, 2017 03:06 PM (ujwCG) ----- ^^^^This. I continue to post a similar position to this on threads. Some agree, some don't. Is zombie going somewhere? Don't leave us zombie!

Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 28, 2017 10:12 AM (O67g7)

285 even before that, most cuck porn involves black guys specifically. That just seems to be what the turn-on is. That's what I've since learned yeah, I just had never heard the term used in such a way. I mostly knew it from historical novels and duels, having antlers put on a husband, etc. There's no end of corruption in the world.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 10:12 AM (39g3+)

286 What would that truth be? Please, do enlighten us all. We're so ignorant of the facts. If you're really interested, as much as I don't like the guy, Gabe Malor has written a fair bit about the guy's shady actions. Apparently he's not above despotic tactics of intimidation, lying, political thuggery etc to get his way. Don't get me wrong, I think the guy has it right when it comes to illegal immigration and handling prisoners, but it seems Arpaio is pretty nasty generally. Don't care. This is more of the "we're better than that" poison. Pardons should only be extended to Christ-like individuals who skip around saving puppies and children and in who's mouth butter never ever melts. Feh. His personal niceness has nothing to do with this issue. That Christ guy also said something about casting the first stone. Trump did the right thing. This was a straight-up political prosecution. As a bonus, the Progtards and #NeverTrumptards whine. What's not to like?

Posted by: naturalfake at August 28, 2017 10:12 AM (NyJwR)

287 On the whole copy and paste style point thing, I personally find it confusing when people copy and paste multiple paragraphs from someone else in the same thread. Just my 2 cents.

Posted by: Max Power at August 28, 2017 10:12 AM (QCc6B)

288 Texas, you have a great governor. I'll repeat what I said up-thread, thank G-d you didn't elect Abortion Barbie. -------- I know! We elected a governor who will stand up for us!! (DYSWIDT)

Posted by: lin-duh fell at August 28, 2017 10:13 AM (kufk0)

289 Damn ... you're almost as old as Vic !!! Posted by: ScoggDog at August 28, 2017 03:09 PM (8yJ7M) Let's not go into hyperbole here. I usually stop at "You may be a contemporary of Vic's grandkids if..." ...you remember the Civil war, etc.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 28, 2017 10:13 AM (3myMJ)

290 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 03:08 PM (39g3+) Agree,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 28, 2017 10:13 AM (iVOAv)

291 Trying to make "cuck" a non-racist term is like trying to use "rim job" in a non-sexual manner. All I wanted to do is make Blackberrys. Come and work for RIM, the recruiter said. Now my entire life is that stupid joke. Everyone says it, even my wife. I hate it.

Posted by: Guy with a RIM job at August 28, 2017 10:13 AM (jhqr1)

292 Trying to make "cuck" a non-racist term is like trying to use "rim job" in a non-sexual manner. Sure it is technically possible, but not realistic in the modern era. Posted by: wooga at August 28, 2017 03:07 PM (Fj4G0) I know, right?

Posted by: Earl, Auto Customization Specialist, 'Rims R Us' at August 28, 2017 10:13 AM (Fw5cQ)

293 "Susan Bolton, the federal district judge who found Arpaio in contempt, is a hack."

Recommended for her post by RINO Jon Kyl, who was in the Senate seat now occupied by RINO Jeff Flake.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 28, 2017 10:13 AM (ujwCG)

294 @230: "Once again, all this takes me back to Germany, in the 20's and 30's..... pretty unnerving..."

Unless you're referring to the losing side of the power struggle during those years, this isn't anything like the Nazi rise to power.  The Left wants to destroy the nation; the Nazis were rabidly pro-German, and pro-Germany.  The Left wants to destroy industry; the Nazis were very, very pro-industry.  Other than heavy-handed government control, a love for an omni-present police state (although oddly hating the actual police), and a hatred for any who disagree with them, the American Left isn't overly similar to the NSDAP.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 28, 2017 10:13 AM (rznWS)

295 >>>I'm really not happy with people wishing for Pinochet. It's mostly shitposters and wiseasses, not exactly serious thinkers. :::spins beanie propeller:::

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at August 28, 2017 10:13 AM (D7Ygt)

296 >>>Well, I certainly wouldn't kick a hot girl who said "cuck" out of bed for eating crackers. DOH HO HO ... well tbh sometimes I do say it privately. Sometimes i say it archly, sort of in a parody kind of way. Other times I just say it. But that's among people who know me well and know I'm not racist. I mean, among friends, you can construct a private vocabulary, as you each know each other. I don't know if it's a good idea to use it publicly, though. I don't mean with you guys (who I could fairly easily establish a private vocabulary with, as we correspond frequently), but for any other readers who just come through. Like, Media Matters bots.

Posted by: ace at August 28, 2017 10:14 AM (8rNrN)

297 I know! We elected a governor who will stand up for us!!
(DYSWIDT)

Posted by: lin-duh fell at August 28, 2017 03:13 PM (kufk0)



heh

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 28, 2017 10:14 AM (PY9jH)

298 @235: ""IRA"

Those are investments controlled by the Primary Dealers and the Federal Reserve. That will only be nationalized if people start withdrawing funds in mass and probably not then. Just like Walmart is the recipient of WIC and SNAP."

You forgot to mention our "Brits Out!" policy.

Posted by: The IRA at August 28, 2017 10:15 AM (rznWS)

299 Yeah, because no one will ever want a Pinochet.
https://twitter.com/jfgroves/status/902203310337384448

Posted by: [/i][/b]andycanuck[/s][/u] at August 28, 2017 10:15 AM (mJ8mX)

300 Posted by: ace at August 28, 2017 03:14 PM They will take everything out of context and make it the worst.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 10:15 AM (dzmBR)

301 The best part of the Arpaio pardon is that when Trump announced he was pardoning him, he specifically said directly to the left "But first, you will blow me."

Posted by: Roy at August 28, 2017 10:15 AM (7n4KQ)

302 We don't have private vocabularies. Private vocabularies would not serve the purpose of communication, as we would not understand what each other's private definitions of words are. One could claim that saying "Jew York City" isn't racist, it's merely pointing out that there are a lot of jews there. One could claim it's descriptive and not derogatory. But most people who say Jew York City are in fact anti-semites. Using the word is a signal that one is an anti-semite -- or, at least, does not at all mind being counted among them. Posted by: ace Ah, but once you concede to the left the sole authority to determine what a word means or what reputation it has, then you have already lost the battle. If tomorrow, the left announces that anyone who uses the word "GAINZZZ" was a racist, would you suddenly and silently stop using it in shame? Where does it all end? Control of language is control of the soul. I don't want them to get their hooks into you (or anyone). What you are referring to are "anti-shibboleths" -- words which spoken identify you as a member of the enemy tribe. 2/3s of the Left's vocabulary are already anti-shibboleths for me. "Community," "Gender," "Diversity," etc. -- you know them all. Anyone who uses such word are immediately branded as brainless leftist tools -- at least to me. And to you. And to half the country. But we don't control the social sphere, so the Left doesn't give a damn what are opinions are, and doesn't attenuate their behavior to conform to my perceptions of them. And yet you are saying you attenuate your behavior so as to conform the Left's rules. Which may be wise, but which also may be sad.

Posted by: zombie at August 28, 2017 10:16 AM (DQ4Fv)

303 294 @230: "Once again, all this takes me back to Germany, in the 20's and 30's..... pretty unnerving..." Unless you're referring to the losing side of the power struggle during those years, this isn't anything like the Nazi rise to power. The Left wants to destroy the nation; the Nazis were rabidly pro-German, and pro-Germany. The Left wants to destroy industry; the Nazis were very, very pro-industry. Other than heavy-handed government control, a love for an omni-present police state (although oddly hating the actual police), and a hatred for any who disagree with them, the American Left isn't overly similar to the NSDAP. Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 28, 2017 03:13 PM (rznWS) They're more like a combination of the Weimar order with the leftist radicals- entrenched state-loving bureaucrats heavily sympathetic to radical socialism/communism. Frankly, I just call myself anti-statist and anti-communist now. My seething hatred for leftism/communism outweighs my other political points. I suppose "National Libertarian" would be fitting.

Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at August 28, 2017 10:16 AM (wwd4n)

304 I agree regarding protests etc. They don't do anything but annoy folks, and change no minds. Its a big form of virtue signalling; it makes you feel good about yourself and feel like you're part of something big but its only a few dozen people. Frankly, the Klan and the rest of those losers have been having rallies for ages, and everyone just ignored their toothless ignorant rear ends. Its only when someone pays attention to them that they start to matter.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 10:16 AM (39g3+)

305 This is more of the "we're better than that" poison. The problem with letting the left define what the most important Causes of Good are, within which to be "better", is that they ultimately decide the good and the bad. Poison is exactly right. Ethical correctness, we can abide. Theatrical "I'm not one of those bad rightists" correctness, we cannot.

Posted by: Sporkatus at August 28, 2017 10:16 AM (eXSOZ)

306 "someone on the left would have had to have artificially cooked them up in a lab"

And in my darker moments I hypothesize precisely this.

Some of those "alt-right" leaders, upon examination, look a whole lot like deliberately introduced false flag flaunters.

There was a time when I would have thought this to be conspiratorial paranoia. Not after the fake "doctors" in white lab coats and stethoscopes who showed up at rallies promoting Obamacare.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 28, 2017 10:16 AM (ujwCG)

307 words which spoken = words which WHEN spoken

Posted by: zombie at August 28, 2017 10:16 AM (DQ4Fv)

308 The whole pardon outrage is just another in a long line of temper tantrums.  If you get out of bed in the morning determined to have a fit, sure enough - a fit you will find.

Posted by: grammie winger, Who'll stop the rain? at August 28, 2017 10:17 AM (lwiT4)

309 Or you are less concerned being associated with them than being associated with the go-along-get-along wing of the GOP. Because cowardice in the face of the enemy is a greater stain on one's character than 'racism'. Posted by: Methos at August 28, 2017 03:12 PM (XQvuQ) So the choice is either be counted as a backstabbing lapdog for the Democrats or be counted as a neo-Nazi? This isn't some manichean choice. But yes, accusations or racism are indeed worse because that stain will cause most people to not even bother listening to you, while "GOPe" labelling doesn't due to the fact that most people don't even know WTF you are talking about.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2017 10:17 AM (vBeA5)

310 I learned of the political usage of cuck at the same time I learnd about the Alt Right (the one that identified as such, not the blanket accusation by liberals). White blank-ists (seperate, superior, whatevs, the racist kind) referred to people as "race cucks" who would support races other than their own. So, it's cheating in the cuckhold sense, but cheating on your race. So, racist.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 28, 2017 10:18 AM (gIRsn)

311 I welcome Tim Tebow being our Pinochet.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 28, 2017 10:18 AM (XFue2)

312 "thank G-d you didn't elect Abortion Barbie." We had that covered all the way, no problem and hold my beer. -TEXAS

Posted by: Meremortal at August 28, 2017 10:18 AM (3myMJ)

313 I don't want a Pinochet. That's the end of the Republic and I'm rather fond of it. Now some wholesale firing of bureaucrats, that would be cool. And probably better in the long run than a dictator.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 28, 2017 10:18 AM (RD7QR)

314 A Republic of Virtue - this is not who we are. The French tried it and a lot of people lost their heads.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 28, 2017 10:18 AM (YV+SU)

315 245 I miss you zombie! My stepdad/dad passed a few weeks ago. I remember that we had a late night discussion once about our similar situations on the dad front. Anyways, his passing made me think of you .... hope you are well. Posted by: lin-duh fell Condolences. I'm doing quite well in meat-space. Just cynical in the extreme in digital space.

Posted by: zombie at August 28, 2017 10:19 AM (DQ4Fv)

316 267 Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 28, 2017 03:04 PM FFS, I put quotes in italics. As I keep doing. As is the best we can do around here. But fine I'll stop streamlining. Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 03:08 PM (dzmBR) ------ Wait...what? I'm trying to understand this. Especially since I seemed to have ticked you off. There was not one quote or word on your post that was mine. Italics or not. The only thing in Italics was my name. I don't think I'm being unreasonable on this. I streamline too.

Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 28, 2017 10:19 AM (O67g7)

317 Paraphrasing what I've read other morons say here...

The Tea Party was us asking nicely.
Trump was a shot across the bow.
I'm pretty sure the left, and their GOPe allies, don't want to find out what comes next, but I'm terrified they're likely to find out. Soon.

Future historians are, I suspect, going to try to pin the coming (and overdue) collapse of the GOP on Trump. That is, of course, silly and nonsense. The true blame for the coming (and overdue) collapse of the GOP falls squarely on a very long list consisting presently of ...

Paul Ryan
Mitch McConnell
Juan "Queeg" McAmnesty
Jeff Flake
Suzie-Q Collins
Lisa MoreCokeSki
Lamar! Alexander
The Bushes (pretty much the whole family at this point)
Mitt Rmoney
The entire never-Trump editorial staff at NR, Weakly Standard, FNC, etc.
Etc. Etc. Etc. (I could go on, and on, and on)

Time for the GOPe to die, precisely at a time when the leftists are so fractured and messed up they can't take advantage of it.

Posted by: DocJ at August 28, 2017 10:19 AM (NYS7S)

318 266 I'm really not happy with people wishing for Pinochet. The guy was a horrndous murdering piece of crap. _________ Yes, he was a dictator who was a horrendous, murdering piece of crap . . . who surrendered power peacefully. I'm afraid we may be past having either the Evil Party or the Stupid Party surrender power peacefully.

Posted by: Furious George at August 28, 2017 10:19 AM (j+dfT)

319 Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 28, 2017 03:19 PM (O67g7) I apparently did not pick up the part immediately before your hash then.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 10:19 AM (dzmBR)

320 313 I don't want a Pinochet. That's the end of the Republic and I'm rather fond of it. Now some wholesale firing of bureaucrats, that would be cool. And probably better in the long run than a dictator. Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 28, 2017 03:18 PM (RD7QR) You think we have a Republic now?

Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at August 28, 2017 10:19 AM (wwd4n)

321 I don't care what our betters in Washington and the so called immigrants rights groups think about Sheriff Joe's pardon by President DJT, they are all screeching about violating the rule of law and yet they stand for violating the rule of law.

PS... how long have I been telling you people that kept poo pooing that it wasn't open warfare when it was. Well, all I have to say is at least we didn't start it.

Posted by: Gmac - 'All politics in this country now is dress-rehearsal for civil war' at August 28, 2017 10:20 AM (qZdIZ)

322 Press conference going on now.

Harris County hugely bungled just about every aspect of hurricane preparation, but they were exactingly diligent in ensuring they had simultaneous translation to sign language for the deaf while officials laboriously explain how they didn't do anything wrong.

All that was missing was to bring in Mandela Funeral Sign Language Guy, and the clusterfark would be complete.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 28, 2017 10:20 AM (ujwCG)

323 At the supermarket, they have the standard size shopping carts and then they have these diminutive half size ones with two little baskets. I call them 'cuckwagons' Is that wrong ?

Posted by: McCool at August 28, 2017 10:20 AM (tWnED)

324 @302: "2/3s of the Left's vocabulary are already anti-shibboleths for me. "Community," "Gender," "Diversity," etc. -- you know them all. Anyone who uses such word are immediately branded as brainless leftist tools -- at least to me."

But I sell drugs in the "community".

Posted by: Chocolate Giddyup at August 28, 2017 10:20 AM (rznWS)

325 We should have done this as men, not with fire. But the subRight was unable or unwilling to stand their ground. So fire it is.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at August 28, 2017 10:20 AM (1hM1d)

326 I just heard a co-worker saying that this Houston storm just sneaked up on everyone. No one knew it was coming. Am I living on the same planet as these people?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 28, 2017 10:21 AM (vg8iE)

327 Ace is 100% correct here. While the word "cuckold" certainly doesn't have the connotation, the abbreviated "cuck" does. "Cuck" is a shibboleth indicating (pseudo)-intellectual kinship with White Identitarians. Even if you don't agree with them, you are nonetheless signalling to others that you are, or at least comfortable with them. Posted by: The Political Hat Well, I don't really know anyone who has ever used the word "cuck" (aside from seeing it in the comments here occasionally), so I actually don't know a whole lot about it. I've just had it up to here with the speech police infecting everything and controlling everyone.

Posted by: zombie at August 28, 2017 10:21 AM (DQ4Fv)

328 The First Rule of Cuckold Porn : Hydrate.

Posted by: garrett at August 28, 2017 10:21 AM (8HxgZ)

329 Let's see what Shep! has to say about Gov. Abbot's presser.

*taps chin*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 28, 2017 10:21 AM (PY9jH)

330 323 At the supermarket, they have the standard size shopping carts and then they have these diminutive half size ones with two little baskets. I call them 'cuckwagons' Is that wrong ? Posted by: McCool at August 28, 2017 03:20 PM (tWnED) Perfect. THAT'S the correct usage of "cuck". I wasn't aware the AR had taken control of the term, I typically use it to describe limpwristed and foppish globalists or weak men, not actually implying their wives are getting plowed behind their backs.

Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at August 28, 2017 10:21 AM (wwd4n)

331 gay wedding cake and your income tax: ENFORCED!

the border and immigration: THAT'S NOT WHO WE ARE!


yeah, fuck you Uncle Sam.
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you forgot:

punishing masked rioters/communists: THAT'S NOT WHO WERE ARE.

/yeah, I second the F. U.

Posted by: shibumi at August 28, 2017 10:21 AM (aT+Bx)

332 As long as people are showing a belated interest in the rule of law, I'm still dead.

Posted by: zombie Kate Steinle at August 28, 2017 10:22 AM (326rv)

333 I welcome Tim Tebow being our Pinochet.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 28, 2017 03:18 PM (XFue2)

===================================



I could live with that.



In the same vein, demographic studies show that the people most likely to identify as conservative are married couples with children who attend church.  So I propose that people get off the internet, find a mate, have some babies, and park you butt in a pew every 7th day,


Posted by: grammie winger, Who'll stop the rain? at August 28, 2017 10:22 AM (lwiT4)

334 >> At the supermarket, they have the standard size shopping carts and then they have these diminutive half size ones with two little baskets. Those are better for the environment or something.

Posted by: garrett at August 28, 2017 10:22 AM (8HxgZ)

335 320 313 I don't want a Pinochet. That's the end of the Republic and I'm rather fond of it. Now some wholesale firing of bureaucrats, that would be cool. And probably better in the long run than a dictator. Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 28, 2017 03:18 PM (RD7QR) You think we have a Republic now? Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at August 28, 2017 03:19 PM (wwd4n) Not as Jefferson and Franklin were envisioning, no, but it's still closer to republicanism than a fascist dictatorship.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 28, 2017 10:22 AM (RD7QR)

336 I AM THE LAW!

Posted by: Trump Dredd at August 28, 2017 10:22 AM (HgMAr)

337 I've read several places that New Orleans has numerous water pumps that are not functional and will make it hard to pump water out if Harvey hits them. Good thing the Mayor was focused on removing all those statues though !!

Posted by: McCool at August 28, 2017 10:22 AM (tWnED)

338 Dear Fox:

Please, please send Shep to the Astro Dome to report on all the baby rape and cannibalism. 

Thanks!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 28, 2017 10:22 AM (PY9jH)

339 I don't know why you are all complaining about Pinnochio. The talking cricket was the real brains behind the operation.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 28, 2017 10:23 AM (Fj4G0)

340 Wait...what? I'm trying to understand this. Especially since I seemed to have ticked you off. There was not one quote or word on your post that was mine. Italics or not. The only thing in Italics was my name. I don't think I'm being unreasonable on this. I streamline too. Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 28, 2017 03:19 PM (O67g7) You are unreasonable. It was quite obvious to me that tsr was responding to multiple people in his posts and rather than make separate comments had just included the name line in italics to the comments each of his statements responded too.

Posted by: buzzion at August 28, 2017 10:23 AM (cAnNx)

341 >>>Ah, but once you concede to the left the sole authority to determine what a word means or what reputation it has, then you have already lost the battle. but i've really never known "cuck" used as a political slur without the intended (intended by the SPEAKER!) connotation of "here's a white guy who's so racially demure he lets The Blacks dick his wife." I mean, the first time I started seeing it, that's what the users intended it to mean. I was on twitter, doing this persona "Paolo the Wifefucker," in reference to this Salon article about a guy who gets off on letting his wife sleep with other dudes. In this case, I think he was hispanic or italian. I think the name Paolo came from that article, though I don't know if it was the guy's real name. Anyway, suddenly my account was being retweeted furiously by all these accounts I never heard of. I dind't know what was going on. First i thought they just thought the parody was funny, and had read the Salon article. but I got suspicious when I kept seeing the people retweeting me had white supremacist screennames like "Odin's Tears" or "Celtic Warrior 88" or that kind of thing. It's always Norse/Celtic stuff with these guys. And I saw a lot of banners with crossed nazi and confederate flags. At that point I did some asking and I found out that this type of person had been using the word "cuck" to mean "white men who aren't Racially Woke and let The Blacks screw their wives" and I stopped the Paolo the Wifefucker persona. which was too bad, because it was pretty funny. But your premise that it is just the left that *deemed* "cuck" to be a term of racial disparagement is false. The main early users meant it in precisely that way, and you can search google for memes to establish that. A *lot* of memes of half-black kids and white women and some "Jokey" caption like "I can't understand how this happened!" When the coiners or popularizers of a term explicitly assign it a meaning -- which they did here -- you can't really say it's "the left" falsely ascribing this meaning to the word.

Posted by: ace at August 28, 2017 10:23 AM (8rNrN)

342 OUR TOP STORY TONIGHT...
FLOOD PROBLEMS NOT OUR FAULT
BLAME TRUMP!

Posted by: garrett morriss, president of the new york school of the hard of hearing at August 28, 2017 10:23 AM (mJ8mX)

343 269 Is there a posted somewhere of all the "acceptable" words? Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. Just for asking, you are now IDed as a racist. A true non-racist would already know where the list is posted.

Posted by: zombie at August 28, 2017 10:23 AM (DQ4Fv)

344 Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 28, 2017 03:22 PM I prefer a comparison to Robespierre. Everyone assumes they or their side will man the guillotine. I suspect that won't be true.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 10:23 AM (dzmBR)

345 I call them 'cuckwagons' Dammit. You mean I have to get the big shopping cart just to pick up a couple things now? Stupid social pressures.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 28, 2017 10:23 AM (jhqr1)

346 "...and then they have these diminutive half size ones with two little baskets." One is for your pussyhat. The other is for veggies.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 28, 2017 10:24 AM (3myMJ)

347 >>>Time for the GOPe to die, precisely at a time when the leftists are so fractured and messed up they can't take advantage of it. This is an interesting point.

Posted by: Max Power at August 28, 2017 10:24 AM (QCc6B)

348 Posted by: buzzion at August 28, 2017 03:23 PM To be fair I'm also on a hair trigger. I'm pushing to get done with revisions on this chapter and want too throw my bookshelf out the window.

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 10:25 AM (dzmBR)

349 It ain't olber till it's Olber, mann.

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at August 28, 2017 10:25 AM (/qEW2)

350 Once again, all this takes me back to Germany, in the 20's and 30's..... pretty unnerving... Posted by: kraken at August 28, 2017 03:02 PM (zSVEm) History doesn't repeat but we do have some similarities. Trump isn't Hitler. He's the warning about what is coming if TPTB don't get their act together. A large segment of the country gave the Republican legislature a final chance and they've blown it. Trump meanwhile has done some decent things within his legal ability. Meanwhile, significant portions of the gov't and virtually all of the press and private industry is supporting the alt-left and suppressing any dissent. That's not leaving many options. Instead we have Hat here schilling his blog with another long rambling piece that basically weeps about "muh Constitution" and offers nothing but some unknown plan to stop the Leftist tidal wave of lawlessness.

Posted by: WOPR (Colonial Marines can't use harsh language) at August 28, 2017 10:25 AM (J70i0)

351 When I see people using the term cuck that tells me that they watch porn of a certain, and very boring, type. Not that I know anything about the pornography, delicate flower of innocent virtue that I am. Ooooh! I just got my Amazon notification that my most recent pallets of 4TB hard drives arrived!

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 28, 2017 10:25 AM (mf5HN)

352 Time for the GOPe to die, precisely at a time when the leftists are so fractured and messed up they can't take advantage of it. Posted by: DocJ at August 28, 2017 03:19 PM (NYS7S) contrary to what many here think... I believe that Perot was the last chance to change the nature of the Republican party... or to create something which would limit the power of the Federal Government. Note, everything Perot said would happen... has happened... debt... NAFTA taking jobs... middle class hurting... and now involved in the longest War in US History, with no end in sight...

Posted by: Don Q. at August 28, 2017 10:25 AM (NgKpN)

353 Is zombie going somewhere? Don't leave us zombie! Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop I'm not going anywhere! Just too burned out to run around with teenage psychopaths taking pictures of their idiocy. Sitting on my butt being a keyboard warrior is more my speed these days.

Posted by: zombie at August 28, 2017 10:25 AM (DQ4Fv)

354 @332: "As long as people are showing a belated interest in the rule of law, I'm still dead."

Posted by: zombie Kate Steinle at August 28, 2017 03:22 PM (326rv)


Omelette/eggs.  You're an egg.  Sorry, *were* an egg.

Posted by: The Elites, the Media, Academia at August 28, 2017 10:26 AM (rznWS)

355 253 I advocated committing felonies with a shotgun and not only am I considered to be a legal genius, but I probably would be president if I had run. Posted by: Delaware's own Joe Biden at August 28, 2017 03:04 PM (326rv) Dude, all that's missing is a podium with a cool seal that says "Office of the Bizarro World Alternate Universe President." Also the mustache and goatee.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 28, 2017 10:26 AM (sGtp+)

356 "I just heard a co-worker saying that this Houston storm just sneaked up on everyone. No one knew it was coming." But Xer can explain the plots of every prime time TV show verbatim.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 28, 2017 10:26 AM (3myMJ)

357 I see the old NOLA residents who were moved Houston haven't changed much in 12 yrs.

Posted by: Infidel at August 28, 2017 10:26 AM (mxS7w)

358 Over at WZ, the RESISTANCE!!! is considering permanently occupying city centers and protesting daily, starting Nov. 4. Until Trump/Pence are removed.

George Soros must have a lot of cash on hand.

/please do this in the snow belt. Please.

Posted by: shibumi at August 28, 2017 10:26 AM (aT+Bx)

359 I wish they would send Shep to the Astrodome Since its abandoned

Posted by: ThunderB at August 28, 2017 10:26 AM (qq4lq)

360 I always said this country could use a good reign of terror, sadly it's coming but not in the way I envisioned.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 28, 2017 10:27 AM (2JcMg)

361 >>what about General Mills? General Mayhem ......... General Population

Posted by: Bubba - cell block #9 at August 28, 2017 10:27 AM (HgMAr)

362 348 Posted by: buzzion at August 28, 2017 03:23 PM To be fair I'm also on a hair trigger. I'm pushing to get done with revisions on this chapter and want too throw my bookshelf out the window. Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at August 28, 2017 03:25 PM (dzmBR) But its pretty obvious what your commenting response style is. So for the complaint... well I won't say more.

Posted by: buzzion at August 28, 2017 10:27 AM (cAnNx)

363 Hey the little 2 basket carts are NOT cuckwagons, they are MANCARTS.

Posted by: blaster at August 28, 2017 10:27 AM (1GJ2R)

364 The pardon is more part of the rule of law (considering it is in the Constitution) than some brain-damaged federal judge in Hawaii questioning a SCOTUS preliminary ruling.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 28, 2017 10:27 AM (0+WqX)

365 So, it's cheating in the cuckhold sense, but cheating on your race. So, racist. Well, insofar as it implies a deliberate race-engineering away of "lesser" whites because of a guilt complex over "whiteness" that the individual is getting off on, it certainly implies an odious kind of racism on the part of the person accused. The additional insult to injury of "race treason" it can imply is one facet of the whole - which may loom greater or lesser in comparison to the "fuck poor whites in general" facet. So yes, it invites bigotry, but is in itself an accusation of particularly horrid oikophobic and self-loathing bigotry. It's *variably* racist in expression, but its targets, not so much. Again, accuracy makes it sorely tempting.

Posted by: Sporkatus at August 28, 2017 10:27 AM (eXSOZ)

366 So the choice is either be counted as a backstabbing lapdog for the Democrats or be counted as a neo-Nazi?

This isn't some manichean choice.

But yes, accusations or racism are indeed worse because that stain will cause most people to not even bother listening to you, while "GOPe" labelling doesn't due to the fact that most people don't even know WTF you are talking about.
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I'm not talking about a choice in what to be. I'm saying the term is an insult.

It's saying "I hold you gope losers in greater contempt than I do those skinhead losers because your endless compromise and concessions have greater real world consequences than their blather".

Though the point you've made is accurate insofar as the leftist media is only offering the choice between "Do what our allies want or we label you a nazi", but that wasn't my point.

Posted by: Methos at August 28, 2017 10:27 AM (XQvuQ)

367 General Consensus

Posted by: garrett at August 28, 2017 10:28 AM (8HxgZ)

368 353 Is zombie going somewhere? Don't leave us zombie! Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop I'm not going anywhere! Just too burned out to run around with teenage psychopaths taking pictures of their idiocy. Sitting on my butt being a keyboard warrior is more my speed these days. Posted by: zombie at August 28, 2017 03:25 PM (DQ4Fv) ============ Considering how bat guano crazy some of those psychopaths are, I bet it's safer too, especially in your neck of the woods...

Posted by: Jackal at August 28, 2017 10:28 AM (Y92/o)

369 Ace, have you had enough water today? Drink H20!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 28, 2017 10:28 AM (hyuyC)

370 *sigh* Nope. Still stand by what I said. Feel it was valid. You don't & that's fine too. Agreeing to disagree. Not a topic worth any more words or energy.

Posted by: Gorilla Gumdrop at August 28, 2017 10:28 AM (O67g7)

371 I have not used the word cuck, but I was under the impression it meant our politicians sleeping with the enemy (left) see how much stuff I learn here? sometimes I could have done without new knowledge

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:28 AM (FKrah)

372 Instead we have Hat here schilling his blog with another long rambling piece that basically weeps about "muh Constitution" and offers nothing but some unknown plan to stop the Leftist tidal wave of lawlessness. Posted by: WOPR (Colonial Marines can't use harsh language) at August 28, 2017 03:25 PM (J70i0) As opposed to feckless flailing slap-fighting while whinging why no one was doing something?

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2017 10:29 AM (vBeA5)

373 squeezes a lemon into aces water.

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:29 AM (FKrah)

374 358 Over at WZ, the RESISTANCE!!! is considering permanently occupying city centers and protesting daily, starting Nov. 4. Until Trump/Pence are removed. George Soros must have a lot of cash on hand. /please do this in the snow belt. Please. Posted by: shibumi at August 28, 2017 03:26 PM (aT+Bx) Oooh, back to rape tents. Filthy, neckbeard-wearing NEETs who have never known the touch of a woman rejoice and prepare to join up.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 28, 2017 10:29 AM (RD7QR)

375 I believe that Perot was the last chance to change the nature of the Republican party... or to create something which would limit the power of the Federal Government.
Posted by: Don Q. at August 28, 2017 03:25 PM (NgKpN)

I've long blamed Perot for giving us The Clinton Crime Syndicate, an ongoing, 25-year national nightmare. But I have to say I'm very much inclined to agree with that assessment.

Posted by: DocJ at August 28, 2017 10:29 AM (NYS7S)

376 We wouldn't have these misunderstandings if you people would just Google every term you don't recognize.

Posted by: garrett at August 28, 2017 10:29 AM (8HxgZ)

377 Posted by: zombie at August 28, 2017 03:25 PM (DQ4Fv) We can start a Senior League for you. We roll you by in a wheelchair while you photo the scene.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 28, 2017 10:30 AM (3myMJ)

378 Ok, Do we have any plan to 'do something'? I have yet to here of one. besides voting and praying a lot.

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:30 AM (FKrah)

379 Sending Ace 9 trillion tons of water recently acquired

Posted by: ThunderB at August 28, 2017 10:30 AM (qq4lq)

380 @372 I saw flailing slap fighting open for whinging why at the 930 Club in 98.

Posted by: blaster at August 28, 2017 10:30 AM (1GJ2R)

381 hear*

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:30 AM (FKrah)

382 Not to fear. The Paolo enjoys keeping the company with the wives of both conservatives and liberals. There is no "Alt-Right" angle to the cuckoldry, as far as Paolo is concerned.

Posted by: Paolo at August 28, 2017 10:30 AM (OVUYQ)

383 >>squeezes a lemon into aces water. Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 03:29 PM (FKrah) Don't drink that, Ace!

Posted by: Robert Plant at August 28, 2017 10:30 AM (8HxgZ)

384 pfft pfft

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:30 AM (FKrah)

385 lemon helps the non excitement of drinking water easier. so there. mnsho

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:31 AM (FKrah)

386 371 I have not used the word cuck, but I was under the impression it meant our politicians sleeping with the enemy (left) see how much stuff I learn here? sometimes I could have done without new knowledge Posted by: willow AoSHQ rule 1 should be to refer to rule 34. Always start from "there is porn of it" first around here.

Posted by: Roy at August 28, 2017 10:31 AM (7n4KQ)

387 Soros funded groups fighting Trump. There are supposedly 187 of them.

http://tinyurl.com/yb3jqcx8

A quick note: every one of those organizations is actually fighting AGAINST every person who voted for Trump.

Something to remember.

Posted by: shibumi at August 28, 2017 10:32 AM (aT+Bx)

388 and could have other benefits re immune system.

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:32 AM (FKrah)

389 It's saying "I hold you gope losers in greater contempt than I do those skinhead losers because your endless compromise and concessions have greater real world consequences than their blather". Though the point you've made is accurate insofar as the leftist media is only offering the choice between "Do what our allies want or we label you a nazi", but that wasn't my point. Posted by: Methos at August 28, 2017 03:27 PM (XQvuQ) Being stuck with the label of "racist" is more damaging in the real world than being labelled a "Republican establishment type".

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2017 10:32 AM (vBeA5)

390 I learned about the word cuckold my Jr year in highschool from my English teacher describing the motivations for a murder. Been using it ever since because it fits in many situations. The idea that using words, phrases, and memes that white people (young) use makes you a racist is beyond retarded. But again I know that there are some conservatives that wish to see white men destroyed and western civilization with it.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 28, 2017 10:32 AM (XFue2)

391 willow is here. You know what that means. (if you don't, it means load the main page in another tab and keep refreshing in order to get a first)

Posted by: blaster at August 28, 2017 10:32 AM (1GJ2R)

392 >>lemon helps the non excitement of drinking water easier. so there. mnsho Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 03:31 PM (FKrah) Then, by all means - Squeeze Away.

Posted by: Robert Plant at August 28, 2017 10:32 AM (8HxgZ)

393 376 We wouldn't have these misunderstandings if you people would just Google every term you don't recognize. Posted by: garrett at August 28, 2017 03:29 PM (8HxgZ) I'm not falling for that trick.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 28, 2017 10:32 AM (Ri/rl)

394 I kept seeing the people retweeting me had white supremacist screennames like "Odin's Tears" or "Celtic Warrior 88" or that kind of thing. It's always Norse/Celtic stuff with these guys. LOL yeah I think these guys watch Vikings on A&E and masturbate furiously, thinking that's them in another life. I don't get the connection myself. Olaf Forkbeard would put an axe in their forehead and take their jewelry. which was too bad, because it was pretty funny. It still has its comedic uses, but I know what you mean.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 10:32 AM (39g3+)

395 "Ok, Do we have any plan to 'do something'?" No. I blame the internet. Makes us feel like we are doing something, kind of like that guy having a cigarette outside the door instead of working.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 28, 2017 10:32 AM (3myMJ)

396 Roy, I am sadly lacking in porn speech. never been there, done that.

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:33 AM (FKrah)

397 My only idea for how to stave off federal bankruptcy is to push government healthcare spending down to the state level. Some states will go broke, but that's a lesson for the rest. If instead it's funded with a federal dollar printing press then Vienvenido a Argentina! We can afford Soc Security, but not runaway health care inflation.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 28, 2017 10:33 AM (+7/1f)

398 Sorry... 87 groups.

Full list here:

http://tinyurl.com/ybyl8bqy

Posted by: shibumi at August 28, 2017 10:33 AM (aT+Bx)

399 396 Roy, I am sadly lacking in porn speech. never been there, done that. Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 03:33 PM (FKrah) and we all love you for that.

Posted by: Roy at August 28, 2017 10:33 AM (7n4KQ)

400 Being stuck with the label of "racist" is more damaging in the real world than being labelled a "Republican establishment type". Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2017 03:32 PM (vBeA5) All white men are considered racist unless you play for the Marxist team. That's the point.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 28, 2017 10:33 AM (XFue2)

401 Dafuq are we arguing about words for? Imma need to see some ID

Posted by: Deputy Dawg at August 28, 2017 10:33 AM (3ZmQM)

402 garret, we might be angry flailing peoples, but we aren't that shtupid.

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:33 AM (FKrah)

403 I believe that Perot was the last chance to change the nature of the Republican party... or to create something which would limit the power of the Federal Government. Posted by: Don Q. at August 28, 2017 03:25 PM (NgKpN) Please. Ross Perot was a total nutbar who ran a vanity campaign that gave us Bill Clinton. I especially remember the paranoid raving part of his campaign, where Vietnamese ninjas were lurking about, seeking vengeance. The only thing missing was Chuck Norris.

Posted by: troyriser at August 28, 2017 10:34 AM (Fw5cQ)

404 Robert P. see?

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:34 AM (FKrah)

405 www.dhmo.org/facts.html

Posted by: nothing confusing about it [i] at August 28, 2017 10:34 AM (7Ml7x)

406 Over at WZ, the RESISTANCE!!! is considering permanently occupying city centers and protesting daily, starting Nov. 4. Until Trump/Pence are removed. ........ nothing says RESISTANCE like pooping on a cop car

Posted by: wth at August 28, 2017 10:35 AM (HgMAr)

407 I see the old NOLA residents who were moved Houston haven't changed much in 12 yrs. I saw a fascinating documentary a while ago. It was about a sting done against a bunch of NOLA cops. They set it up as a drug dealer who was looking for some protection on his warehouse. They targeted one specific cop who then had no problem recruiting other cops. They caught these cops in numerous offenses including plotting killing the drug dealer to take over his business and the original targeted police officer actually had a woman killed for filing a police report against his partner for beating up her son for no reason. Really opened my eyes to NOLA PD issues.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 28, 2017 10:35 AM (jhqr1)

408 if American society is so racist, then why is being called a racist the worst thing there is?

Posted by: josephistan at August 28, 2017 10:35 AM (7HtZB)

409 But your premise that it is just the left that *deemed* "cuck" to be a term of racial disparagement is false. The main early users meant it in precisely that way, and you can search google for memes to establish that. A *lot* of memes of half-black kids and white women and some "Jokey" caption like "I can't understand how this happened!" When the coiners or popularizers of a term explicitly assign it a meaning -- which they did here -- you can't really say it's "the left" falsely ascribing this meaning to the word. Posted by: ace Ah, OK, I'm pretty out of the loop on this one. HOWEVER, to really go out in the reeds of the Taboo Swamp, the ever-escalated self-loathing and self-hate of white progressives IS basically political cuckoldry, of that exact racial type. Even back in the late '60s, Bill Ayers forced his girlfriend to "give up the pussy" to some black radical buddy of his, as "reparations" for slavery. That mindset never went away. So, OK, you;re right, even the people saying "cuck" use is racially, but that doesn't mean there isn't a kernel of truth to the term.

Posted by: zombie at August 28, 2017 10:35 AM (DQ4Fv)

410 have not used the word cuck, but I was under the impression it meant our politicians sleeping with the enemy (left) I would argue that "please come over and sleep with my metaphorical wife and force her into submission because I cannot satisfy her and you are better than me and I am not worthy" is far worse an attitude for a politician than simply an eye for cheating. For one, it's leagues more spineless. For two, it's more of a betrayal if the wife's not into the idea, and more of a rejection of order if she is.

Posted by: Sporkatus at August 28, 2017 10:35 AM (eXSOZ)

411 Please. Ross Perot was a total nutbar who ran a vanity campaign that gave us Bill Clinton. I especially remember the paranoid raving part of his campaign, where Vietnamese ninjas were lurking about, seeking vengeance. The only thing missing was Chuck Norris. Posted by: troyriser at August 28, 2017 03:34 PM (Fw5cQ) Yeah I remember Perot as being a nut job and he did help hand the election to Clinton and all that followed from that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 28, 2017 10:36 AM (5y11N)

412 use is = use it

Posted by: zombie at August 28, 2017 10:36 AM (DQ4Fv)

413 the thing is just by being white or a gop voter or not down with the left makes us racist . we can't win, but we certainly don't have to help either.

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:36 AM (FKrah)

414 408 if American society is so racist, then why is being called a racist the worst thing there is? Posted by: josephistan at August 28, 2017 03:35 PM (7HtZB) Also, if America is so racist and terrible why does the world want to immigrate here?

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 28, 2017 10:36 AM (Ri/rl)

415 I am sadly lacking in porn speech. never been there, done that. Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 03:33 PM (FKrah) You go sit next to Fenelon and Alex on the Good Girls Bench.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 28, 2017 10:36 AM (gIRsn)

416 Explain this to a ignoramus like me on legal matters. How can sometime be sentenced to jail time without a jury? I though the Constitution was clear on this? Regardless, whatever you think of Trump or Arpaio, his "conviction" was a political prosecution. I could maybe understand the TruCons crying if Trump pardoned Arpaio for something that he did where it as clear cut wrongdoing like say taking a bribe, but not for this. The NeverTrump TruCons are never going to get on our team, we might as well get used to the fact they are now just part of Team Blue.

Posted by: Maritime at August 28, 2017 10:36 AM (lKmt3)

417 if American society is so racist, then why is being called a racist the worst thing there is? ====== If it's such a racist hellhole, why are POC doing whatever the hell they can - risking their lives even - to get in?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 28, 2017 10:36 AM (vg8iE)

418 "Over at WZ, the RESISTANCE!!! is considering permanently occupying city centers and protesting daily, starting Nov. 4." Good. Nobody goes to city centers anymore, they are too crowded.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 28, 2017 10:37 AM (3myMJ)

419 WaPo says the HPD arrested four cumstains who were trying to loot. I hope they accidentally tripped a lot going from room to room at the station.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at August 28, 2017 10:37 AM (bE7FF)

420 Ross Perot was a total nutbar who ran a vanity campaign that gave us Bill Clinton. I especially remember the paranoid raving part of his campaign, where Vietnamese ninjas were lurking about, seeking vengeance. The only thing missing was Chuck Norris. Posted by: troyriser at August 28, 2017 03:34 PM (Fw5cQ) I seem to recall him saying that Cuban secret agents were going to try to disrupt his daughter's wedding.

Posted by: josephistan at August 28, 2017 10:37 AM (7HtZB)

421 Sporkatus, that was quite a well rounded explanation , thanks

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:37 AM (FKrah)

422 241 Hymie-Town is the accepted usage, ace. Hymie's dead, man.

Posted by: Maxwell Smart, Agent 86 at August 28, 2017 10:37 AM (sGtp+)

423 I have a simple policy regarding "cuck" that I recommend y'all adopt: Grownups should use grownup words. Any questions?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 28, 2017 10:37 AM (AM1GF)

424 I especially remember the paranoid raving part of his campaign, where Vietnamese ninjas were lurking about, seeking vengeance. Didn't they threaten his daughter's wedding or something?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 28, 2017 10:37 AM (gIRsn)

425 I can't tell you how great it made me feel inside to hear Milt Rommey tell me how he felt about everuthing. He took a minute out of his unbelievably hectic and bisy day to let me know. Dammit, that's some fuckin leadership goddamit! Whatever it takes.

Posted by: Rev E Buzz Miller at August 28, 2017 10:37 AM (FWDj6)

426 Please. Ross Perot was a total nutbar who ran a vanity campaign that gave us Bill Clinton. I especially remember the paranoid raving part of his campaign, where Vietnamese ninjas were lurking about, seeking vengeance. The only thing missing was Chuck Norris. Posted by: troyriser at August 28, 2017 03:34 PM (Fw5cQ) I thought the ninjas were after his daughter? Perot was really out there.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 28, 2017 10:38 AM (Ri/rl)

427 The problem is the left gets to determine what is unacceptable and most on the right fall in line.And enforce it.Sad really.

Posted by: steevy at August 28, 2017 10:38 AM (rmVvL)

428 Didn't they threaten his daughter's wedding or something? Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 28, 2017 03:37 PM (gIRsn) Those were Cuban agents. Castro evidently had it in for him, too.

Posted by: troyriser at August 28, 2017 10:38 AM (Fw5cQ)

429 Bander, but I did try pot a couple of days ago, and ate a couple pieces of Cheetos. so i'm now in the doesn't belong anywhere bench

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:38 AM (FKrah)

430 Like with most things, its the jackwagons on the fringes that cause the most problems. Bill Burr riffs on this, he'll point out flaws or problems with people and some knuckle dragging sister humper will three tooth out a rebel yell of agreement only with the parts that hit the groups he doesn't like. I've run into it before. I'll complain that American blacks are largely held in contempt by African blacks and out comes the wink and the knowing grin we know what you mean brother and I hate it. How can you be dumb enough to think I'm bashing Blacks as a portion of humanity by saying some blacks think others are trash? Everyone has stupid, worthless members. Its like the piece of crap that was yelling about how we should have never had those people pick cotton for us after seeing the MTV awards (which mercifully has been ignored here, as it should be). Hey you sub-normal IQ, there were a bunch of stupid white people on stage too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 10:39 AM (39g3+)

431 Being stuck with the label of "racist" is more damaging in the real world than being labelled a "Republican establishment type".
---
Trump is President.

JEB is not.

And you are still missing the point that the progressives' co-conspirators in the gope *should* be held in greater contempt than losers who think holding a nazi flag makes them strong or something.

Posted by: Methos at August 28, 2017 10:39 AM (XQvuQ)

432 "If it's such a racist hellhole, why are POC doing whatever the hell they can - risking their lives even - to get in?" So they can "fix" us, of course. They are givers.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 28, 2017 10:39 AM (3myMJ)

433 Any questions? Why are you such a doodie head?

Posted by: Sporkatus at August 28, 2017 10:39 AM (eXSOZ)

434 429 Bander, but I did try pot a couple of days ago, and ate a couple pieces of Cheetos. so i'm now in the doesn't belong anywhere bench Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 03:38 PM (FKrah) WILLOW IS STONED!

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 28, 2017 10:40 AM (RD7QR)

435 The NeverTrump TruCons are never going to get on our team, we might as well get used to the fact they are now just part of Team Blue. +++ "Now"?

Posted by: Deputy Dawg at August 28, 2017 10:40 AM (3ZmQM)

436 Arpaio, upholding the laws that these politicians wrote, gets in trouble with a lefty judge who is trying to prevent the enforcement of those self-same laws, and who are the pols angry at? The guy upholding the laws they wrote.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 28, 2017 10:40 AM (oVJmc)

437 The SubRight is the "Ned Stark" of the right.

Posted by: Zon Toro at August 28, 2017 10:40 AM (V0pGL)

438 The Vietnamese ninjas were after Perot because of his (truly laudable) work funding MIA searches. Not sure why the Cubans were trying to disrupt his daughter's wedding.

Posted by: troyriser at August 28, 2017 10:40 AM (Fw5cQ)

439 423 I have a simple policy regarding "cuck" that I recommend y'all adopt: Grownups should use grownup words. Any questions? Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 28, 2017 03:37 PM (AM1GF) All right. "Cuckold" it is.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 28, 2017 10:41 AM (0mRoj)

440 "How can sometime be sentenced to jail time without a jury? I though the Constitution was clear on this? " I learned from a post here that courts have decided that the right to a jury trial doesn't apply to misdemeanor cases that can still give you jail time. For all I know this could be a decision supported by Law & Order judges. Either way, it's an abomination.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 28, 2017 10:41 AM (+7/1f)

441 they come because the desire what we used to have. or at least believed we had, a semblance of prosperity and freedom to strive racitty racist idea

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:41 AM (FKrah)

442 437 The SubRight is the "Ned Stark" of the right. Posted by: Zon Toro at August 28, 2017 03:40 PM (V0pGL) More like Geoffrey. Venal, vicious and easily manipulated.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 28, 2017 10:41 AM (0mRoj)

443 I kept seeing the people retweeting me had white supremacist screennames like "Odin's Tears" or "Celtic Warrior 88" or that kind of thing. It's always Norse/Celtic stuff with these guys. ...Oh!...what!....why I! Just wait till a finish my Salbury Steak, uh, uh, I mean my Man's Portion of Lion's Hind. Then you shall feel my wrath, you cuck cucking cuck! Then you shall feel as though the Dwarves of Shafttumble have descended upon you in their fury! Just wait till I..huff...I...uh...climb the stairs from my Mom's basement...I mean, My Warrior's Lair...just...you...wait.... .... ....uh, I got to rest a minute... ... ...

Posted by: Loki's Lutefisk at August 28, 2017 10:41 AM (NyJwR)

444 411 Please. Ross Perot was a total nutbar who ran a vanity campaign that gave us Bill Clinton. I especially remember the paranoid raving part of his campaign, where Vietnamese ninjas were lurking about, seeking vengeance. The only thing missing was Chuck Norris. Posted by: troyriser at August 28, 2017 03:34 PM (Fw5cQ) Yeah I remember Perot as being a nut job and he did help hand the election to Clinton and all that followed from that Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 28, 2017 03:36 PM (5y11N) To put this in perspective... Take how Donald Trump has been treated by the Press, and Washington insiders... And project it back.... to Perot... And even if you thought he was nuts, you have to admit he was correct about NAFTA, and the Debt....

Posted by: Don Q. at August 28, 2017 10:42 AM (NgKpN)

445 joncelli, am not, and was barely stoned after I did it. what a let down! but io did indeed get the munchies.

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:42 AM (FKrah)

446 All white men are considered racist unless you play for the Marxist team.
---
White men aren't the only ones.

Posted by: Charles Barkley, looking like a better role model every day at August 28, 2017 10:42 AM (XQvuQ)

447 Crap, now I have to worry that willow won't get to threads in time to get willowed? It's all going to pot Whether we like it or not

Posted by: Meremortal at August 28, 2017 10:42 AM (3myMJ)

448 The SubRight is the "Ned Stark" of the right. No, because they will never let any "principles" they pretend to hold threaten their livelihoods or comfort in any way, much less their lives. They desperately wish they were Ned Stark. They're pretty much just Joffrey.

Posted by: Sporkatus at August 28, 2017 10:42 AM (eXSOZ)

449 446 All white men are considered racist unless you play for the Marxist team. --- White men aren't the only ones. Posted by: Charles Barkley, looking like a better role model every day at August 28, 2017 03:42 PM (XQvuQ) That was turrible what they said about you. Just turrible.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 28, 2017 10:43 AM (0mRoj)

450 And you are still missing the point that the progressives' co-conspirators in the gope *should* be held in greater contempt than losers who think holding a nazi flag makes them strong or something. Posted by: Methos at August 28, 2017 03:39 PM (XQvuQ) "Racist" is a toxic label in most people's eyes. "Establishment Republican" isn't. It's one thing to hold someone in contempt, it's another to abandon useful social nicites in an ineffective scorched Earth campaign.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2017 10:43 AM (vBeA5)

451 Trump's pardon of Arpaio was perfectly consistent with the rule of law. Anyone who believes the President shouldn't have the power of pardons is perfectly free to advocate for an amendment to the Constitution.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at August 28, 2017 10:43 AM (398bZ)

452 So, OK, you;re right, even the people saying "cuck" use is racially, but that doesn't mean there isn't a kernel of truth to the term. There's a kernel of truth to every stereotype. Irish people really do like to fight and drink. White people are lousy at dancing on average, compared to latins and blacks. Asians often are lousy drivers. Jews often are really good with numbers and willing to work that to their advantage. Indians are great at putting out fabulous song and dance numbers. Its just that's not universal and that doesn't define them. Some white guys can jump, some black guys are terrible dancers, some Asians are lousy with math and amazing drivers. The stereotype of men never asking for directions and women always trying to hedge their bets so they have plausible deniability is basically true, but not certain and not always. And its no place to condemn or attack anyone over. I love how Russel Peters puts it. He says his humor seems stereotyping at times, but it works because everyone recognizes themselves in the stereotype. He points out how Indians are cheap, but then everyone goes "yeah I've done that" and its a laugh for everyone.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 10:43 AM (39g3+)

453 I thought it was Paolo the Wifehunter.

Posted by: Lorenzo Lamas at August 28, 2017 10:43 AM (/qEW2)

454 "How can sometime be sentenced to jail time without a jury? I though the Constitution was clear on this? " I learned from a post here that courts have decided that the right to a jury trial doesn't apply to misdemeanor cases that can still give you jail time. For all I know this could be a decision supported by Law & Order judges. Either way, it's an abomination. Posted by: Ignoramus at August 28, 2017 03:41 PM (+7/1f) It's not "jail". It's just a tax on your freedom. Next question. And make it something challenging this time.

Posted by: Benedict Roberts at August 28, 2017 10:44 AM (rZ+mb)

455 448:They're pretty much just Joffrey.
Nah, more like Littlefinger but more retarded.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 28, 2017 10:44 AM (YTI+Y)

456 Cuck and Woke are the same thing - just different hues.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 28, 2017 10:44 AM (YV+SU)

457 455 448:They're pretty much just Joffrey. Nah, more like Littlefinger but more retarded. Posted by: Puddleglum at August 28, 2017 03:44 PM (YTI+Y) And who will be our Arya Stark?

Posted by: Insomniac at August 28, 2017 10:44 AM (0mRoj)

458 The SubRight is the "Ned Stark" of the right. Posted by: Zon Toro at August 28, 2017 03:40 PM (V0pGL) A little Ned mood music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BEvh6HSQc0

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 28, 2017 10:45 AM (vBeA5)

459 I love to dance, I miss not dancing.

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:45 AM (FKrah)

460 Indians are great at putting out fabulous song and dance numbers. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 03:43 PM (39g3+) Huh? Rain dances really aren't all that ... though the headdresses certainly are fabulous.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 28, 2017 10:45 AM (rZ+mb)

461 I have a simple policy regarding "cuck" that I recommend y'all adopt:

Grownups should use grownup words.

Any questions? Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 28, 2017 03:37 PM

Cockholster?

Posted by: Charles Barkley, looking like a better role model every day at August 28, 2017 10:46 AM (XQvuQ)

462 Nah, more like Littlefinger but more retarded. Or possibly, pace The Sweet, Little Willy.

Posted by: Sporkatus at August 28, 2017 10:46 AM (eXSOZ)

463 335---Not as Jefferson and Franklin were envisioning, no, but it's still closer to republicanism than a fascist dictatorship. Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 28, 2017 03:22 PM (RD7QR) ------------------------------ Pinochet was not a fascist. Far from it. He was not political at all, which is why all of the parties in Chile, from ultra-conservatives to Social Democrats, agreed he would be best to lead the coup. And he restored the Chilean republic, which was destroyed under Allende. But people who hope for a Pinochet Solution are fools. In 9 out of 10 cases, if not more, they will get a dictator-for-life --- or worse yet, a true fascist like Castro, who will set up a party apparatus that outlives him.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 28, 2017 10:46 AM (0jtPF)

464 To put this in perspective... Take how Donald Trump has been treated by the Press, and Washington insiders... And project it back.... to Perot... And even if you thought he was nuts, you have to admit he was correct about NAFTA, and the Debt.... Posted by: Don Q. at August 28, 2017 03:42 PM (NgKpN) The press was unusually kind to Perot, all things considered. I mean, I didn't hear the words 'batshit insane' used by anybody even when Perot was talking Vietnamese ninjas on his lawn and Cuban agents at his daughter's wedding. And why wouldn't the press be kind to Perot? He split the GOP ticket and paved the way for Bill Clinton.

Posted by: troyriser at August 28, 2017 10:46 AM (Fw5cQ)

465 Nah, more like Littlefinger but more retarded. Posted by: Puddleglum at August 28, 2017 03:44 PM (YTI+Y) Yeah, Retarded Littlefinger is about right. which I suppose makes them Baldrick. Always with the terribly uncunning "cunning plan".

Posted by: naturalfake at August 28, 2017 10:46 AM (NyJwR)

466 But people who hope for a Pinochet Solution are fools. In 9 out of 10 cases, if not more, they will get a dictator-for-life --- or worse yet, a true fascist like Castro, who will set up a party apparatus that outlives him. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 28, 2017 03:46 PM (0jtPF) this. I know some truly believe we will do better. But history..

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:47 AM (FKrah)

467 The press was unusually kind to Perot, all things considered. I mean, I didn't hear the words 'batshit insane' used by anybody even when Perot was talking Vietnamese ninjas on his lawn and Cuban agents at his daughter's wedding. And why wouldn't the press be kind to Perot? He split the GOP ticket and paved the way for Bill Clinton. Posted by: troyriser at August 28, 2017 03:46 PM (Fw5cQ) The press was also scared shitless of Perot. He used to tear them apart and make them cry.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 28, 2017 10:47 AM (rZ+mb)

468 Rain dances really aren't all that ... though the headdresses certainly are fabulous. Pushtart, not pullstart

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 10:48 AM (39g3+)

469 More like the old 3 eyed Raven. Trapped, think they know everything, can't do squat

Posted by: Deputy Dawg at August 28, 2017 10:48 AM (3ZmQM)

470 Grownups should use grownup words. Any questions? Posted by: Brother Cavil, Abbot of St. Costello-on-the-Hurlingbone at August 28, 2017 03:37 PM cavil, does that mean I can't shouldn't say thing like, " off to do stuff?" or Like "for that matter? because well I would have very little left to express myself with. yano?

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:48 AM (FKrah)

471 NOOD.

Posted by: johnd01 at August 28, 2017 10:49 AM (ukNFU)

472 Perot was just a stalking horse for Billary!

Posted by: Meremortal at August 28, 2017 10:49 AM (3myMJ)

473 which I suppose makes them Baldrick. ... yeah, that would about do it.

Posted by: Sporkatus at August 28, 2017 10:49 AM (eXSOZ)

474 Nood

Posted by: steevy at August 28, 2017 10:49 AM (rmVvL)

475 I love how Russel Peters puts it. He says his humor seems stereotyping at times, but it works because everyone recognizes themselves in the stereotype. He points out how Indians are cheap, but then everyone goes "yeah I've done that" and its a laugh for everyone. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 03:43 PM (39g3+) My Big Fat Greek Wedding was a huge hit because that is everyone's family. Yes, it was poking gentle and loving fun at American Greek culture but everyone recognizes their own family in that movie. You know, the whole I could wring these people's throats and that's because I love them so much thing.

Posted by: alexthechick - a manatee life for me at August 28, 2017 10:49 AM (mf5HN)

476 NOOD. Posted by: johnd01 at August 28, 2017 03:49 PM (ukNFU Ah Ha!

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:49 AM (FKrah)

477 hugs alex.

Posted by: willow at August 28, 2017 10:50 AM (FKrah)

478 words have the meanings communally agreed to. We agree "spoon" means a utensil with an oval concave end for sipping liquid. If we agreed it meant a raygun, it would mean a raygun.

If most people using the word "cuck" mean it as a jibe about giving your wife up to The Blacks (as they would say, well, actually they'd say worse), then that largely is what it means.

We don't have private vocabularies. Private vocabularies would not serve the purpose of communication, as we would not understand what each other's private definitions of words are.

One could claim that saying "Jew York City" isn't racist, it's merely pointing out that there are a lot of jews there. One could claim it's descriptive and not derogatory.

But most people who say Jew York City are in fact anti-semites. Using the word is a signal that one is an anti-semite -- or, at least, does not at all mind being counted among them.

Posted by: ace at August 28, 2017 03:02 PM (8rNrN)

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While that is most certainly true for your chosen example, there are others that prove the opposite. If you overhear two women in your workplace discussing getting a facial, they most likely mean it very differently than the good folks over at Pornhub.

Same with the word "cuck". True, over at Stormfront, they would likely be emphasizing the racial, but on most run of the mill political blogs, that's not the meaning.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 28, 2017 10:50 AM (FUu/Z)

479 463 335---Not as Jefferson and Franklin were envisioning, no, but it's still closer to republicanism than a fascist dictatorship. Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at August 28, 2017 03:22 PM (RD7QR) ------------------------------ Pinochet was not a fascist. Far from it. He was not political at all, which is why all of the parties in Chile, from ultra-conservatives to Social Democrats, agreed he would be best to lead the coup. And he restored the Chilean republic, which was destroyed under Allende. But people who hope for a Pinochet Solution are fools. In 9 out of 10 cases, if not more, they will get a dictator-for-life --- or worse yet, a true fascist like Castro, who will set up a party apparatus that outlives him. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 28, 2017 03:46 PM (0jtPF) I'm pushing for a Tim Tebow Pinochet era.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 28, 2017 10:50 AM (XFue2)

480 I did that Pushstart/Pullstart thing with a friend from India once and he about died laughing, I think because it sounds like an Indian term. (Dot on the forhead: push start, feather on the head: pull start). Not sure what native American friends might think, its never come up. I only know a couple even though there are quite a few around here. They tend to keep to themselves and are quite quiet. Indians I've met (from India) seem to come in two categories: really friendly and great to get along with.... and really arrogant, condescending, and filled with contempt for anyone but themselves. I suspect its an artifact of the caste system.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 10:51 AM (39g3+)

481 'Vengeance is Mine.' saith The Lord. We are all instruments of GOD, created to do His Will. Watch and wait. Deliverance is at hand. Not prophesy, but not wishful thinking either.

Posted by: Eromero at August 28, 2017 10:51 AM (zLDYs)

482 We are all racists now according to the media. I guess pretty soon the "white men need. It apply" signs will be in vogue.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 28, 2017 10:53 AM (A7DN1)

483 "Racist" is a toxic label in most people's eyes. "Establishment Republican" isn't.
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Not relevant. We were discussing why a particular term is used to describe gop vermin that betray their voters to the progressives, which is used by those voters to communicate the regard those voters have for the vermin.

And I doubt thinking people care about the label 'racist' anymore as it clearly has been over used to mean 'disagrees with the alien values of progressives and their gope allies".

I don't mind that my liberal sister thinks I'm a racist.

I am ashamed that people know I went door to door trying to turn out votes for McCain, even as an act of desperation.

Posted by: Methos at August 28, 2017 10:54 AM (XQvuQ)

484 215 Ain't heard a word out of her since the forecasts began.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 28, 2017 10:55 AM (G/6B6)

485 But most people who say Jew York City are in fact anti-semites. Using the word is a signal that one is an anti-semite -- or, at least, does not at all mind being counted among them. Posted by: ace at August 28, 2017 03:02 PM (8rNrN) Meh. I don't think so. If someone calls someone else a "fat shit" that doesn't mean that he hates fat people. Someone can call an area "Guido-land" and not really have anything against Italians. It's just a sort of funny label. "Jew York City" is a pretty mild phrase to use and I think most who do probably don't mean much of anything by it. THey might not love Jews but that is a far, far cry from "anti-semitic".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 28, 2017 10:56 AM (rZ+mb)

486 (Dot on the forhead: push start, feather on the head: pull start). Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 03:51 PM (39g3+) Oh. LOL.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 28, 2017 10:57 AM (rZ+mb)

487 "Ah, but once you concede to the left the sole authority to determine what a word means or what reputation it has, then you have already lost the battle" zombie

yeah, I think this is the root of the problem.  Orwell recognized the importance of controlling language, eliminating certain 'wrong speak' entirely.

When I mention Goldman Sachs as a problem in some of the bubble fiascos, my Jewish BIL called me anti-Semite (in slightly nicer terms).  That is designed to make me quake and submit, even though I don't think the banking scams and/or globalism are a Jewish/Zionist run issue.

These strategies to keep real debate marginalized with if you attack this, you are racist -- you attack that, anti-Semite -- attack this, xenophobic ... etc. 

Now they just want to beat everyone that supports Trump, so I guess that simplifies things.  But the establishment has sold out to the globalists, mostly via too big to fail/jail Wall Street "mobsters" ... and that crosses religious and party lines.  The Orwellian Hate and language control is a distraction.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 28, 2017 11:00 AM (veVl1)

488 But most people who say Jew York City are in fact anti-semites. Using the word is a signal that one is an anti-semite -- or, at least, does not at all mind being counted among them. Posted by: ace at August 28, 2017 03:02 PM (8rNrN) Meh. I don't think so. If someone calls someone else a "fat shit" that doesn't mean that he hates fat people. Someone can call an area "Guido-land" and not really have anything against Italians. It's just a sort of funny label. "Jew York City" is a pretty mild phrase to use and I think most who do probably don't mean much of anything by it. THey might not love Jews but that is a far, far cry from "anti-semitic". Nah, the history of that phrase would indicate otherwise and as would the people who have and do use it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 28, 2017 11:01 AM (5y11N)

489 443 CeltivWarrior88.. Michael Fkatley's ninth comeback tour...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 28, 2017 11:01 AM (G/6B6)

490 btw, as a reminder of the biggest lawbreaker insiders, walking free with tens of millions, while driving millions to bankruptcy due to their fraud ... "Inside Job" is pretty good, and free on YouTube.  The eight years after TARP was primed with the TARP money and policy, and went back to refusal to regulate the $700T derivative market.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhTZF-F7oG4

Posted by: illiniwek at August 28, 2017 11:09 AM (veVl1)

491 Not only are we in a cool civil war, we're in a cool civil war against f-ing communists. Antifa is a communist organization modeled after Vladimir Lenin's "international" which also had the same f-ing symbol, flag, motto, and mission statement. The left; ie the establishment, the media, academia are with them, do not denouce them and protect them. They are one. The trucons, or the "subright" are with them as well. This ridiculous martyr act is transparent. 

Posted by: dagny at August 28, 2017 11:24 AM (wZuWv)

492 "I've just had it up to here with the speech police infecting everything and controlling everyone." Late to the party but I agree with Zombie. Allowing them to decide which words one can say or not say is giving in... again. What we SHOULD be doing is when they say that a word is racist or rude or whatever, we should reply by saying they have a filthy, evil mind that would be home in the foulest of sewers because of how they interpret what we said. Trying to put the jackboots to thought or speech is out and out Nazism.

Posted by: Russtovich at August 28, 2017 11:24 AM (B9SLI)

493 Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 28, 2017 04:01 PM (5y11N)


My niece just texted me her sonogram to annouce her pregnancy. One of my sons asked if it was Jane as in Jane Smith who was pregnant. I said, no, it's her but with her new "dago" last name.

Was that "racist"?


Not if you know, that I have a "dago" last name, and birthed 4 kids with a "dago" last name.  It's a joke, and everyone involved gets it.


This hysteria bubble is a strange thing. It's thought-crimesque.

Posted by: dagny at August 28, 2017 11:29 AM (wZuWv)

494 378 Wake me when the plan arrives.

Posted by: ndisnigh at August 28, 2017 11:55 AM (bQTiX)

495 Sheriff Apaio, at 85, is in debt millions due to legal bills. This is why Trump wanted to pardon as quickly as possible. The idea that the president 'should wait' until the whole court process is over, is ridiculous. This man, a Korean War vet, was pretty much bankrupted by a vendetta the Obama Administration had against him. Rather than give him a slap on the wrist (if they were so offended by what he did), they went full throttle on this guy in order to scare anyone else away from standing up against the feds.

Trump asked Sessions if he could drop the case entirely. I still don't understand why that couldn't have been an option. I am sure part of that was to spare Arpaio the great personal expense he took on to defend himself in court.

I am sick to death of the right (supposedly) dumping on Trump for doing what is RIGHT and NORMAL with his powers of presidential pardon. Arpaio did not deserve this.

Posted by: K-E at August 28, 2017 12:21 PM (uOEHQ)

496 A couple'o thoughts about Sheriff Joe.... But first, some full attribution: I haven't voted for the guy for years. Didja ever ask yourself "Why is it that I like this Sheriff Joe fella?" Well, IMO, the answer to that is that Sheriff Joe was great at pulling some stunt to put his name in the national news. Tent city; pink underwear; if-the-Obama-.gov-won't-enforce-immgration-laws-I-will....these all served to keep Joe's name in the public eye. He was a publicity hound at least as much as a law enforcement officer. Case in point: Joe's Sheriff department came into some knowledge that this guy was running a cock-fight in his backyard. I **fully** understand and agree that cockfighting is abuse of animals, but I say that as an anglo. In the hispanic world, going to a cockfight on a Friday night is thought to be as illegal as going to a nickel-dime poker game. Moving on, instead of busting this cockfighting ring by sending officers over there to arrest everybody, Joe sends in his SWAT team, complete with armored personnel-carrier. And guess who else tags along? That semi-sheriff Steven Seagal, who happens to bring his camera crew for an episode of that stupid TV show he once had. Publicity hounds all around. Source: http://tinyurl.com/3qkv4se Moreover, how many of you who knew the name of my former-Sheriff know the name of your own Sheriff? Why is that? But all that said, Obama's DOJ ram-rodded the prosecution of Arpaio. There was no reason for it, other than that Arpaio was embarrassing Obama by illustrating that he wasn't enforcing the laws he (Obama) has sworn to enforce. So in the end, while I am no fan of Arpaio, I don't disagree with Trump's pardon at all.

Posted by: Action Jackson is my name. Bold adventure is my game. at August 28, 2017 12:24 PM (0SPyv)

497 ...seriously? You think Rome was ruined by populists? Read some history at some point in your life, will you? Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 28, 2017 02:52 PM (39g3+) You mean history that records that Caesar was the leader of the Populares and his rivals were the leaders of the Optimates? That the Populares represented the urban poor, and the Optimates represented the "conservative" Senatorial class? Why yes, I have read history at some point in my life. And apparently considerably more than you have.

Posted by: Sam at August 28, 2017 03:07 PM (J87Sn)

498 They say Arpaio violated rights, but his right to a jury trial was denied by a corrupt hack judge colluding with Democrat prosecutors. But it's much bigger than Arpaio. Hell, the Clintons were effectively pardoned for *selling* pardons--by Jim Comey! The IRS targeting, Fast and Furious, Bribe Me-Granny's RICO Act , using the entire Nat. Sec./DOJ apparatus to wiretap the Trumps, etc. etc. Schlicter's right. The rule of law is only for rubes. That means it's no longer a rule, but a whim. The Whim of Law.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 28, 2017 05:53 PM (Ndje9)

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