July 30, 2010

Judge Rules Illinois Senate Winner Will Take Office During Lame Duck Session, Not In January
— Ace

Come on-- give it up for Mark Kirk. He's not that much of a RINO; he supported up some global warming nonsense (as did Newt Gingrich, and as do almost all Republicans) but the guy's walked away from that.

He's from Illinois. Like the fourth or fifth bluest state. Running for President Present's old seat/presidential launching pad. Has to be a little give there, right?

A judge has ruled that seat must be filled immediately after the election, in the lame-duck session, and not just in January.

Illinois voters will cast two votes for U.S. Senate on Nov. 2 — one for a senator who will serve 60 days and the other for one who will serve a six-year term — under an order issued Thursday by Gov. Pat Quinn as required by the federal courts.

Yet to be finalized is who the candidates will be for the short-term vacancy that falls between Nov. 3, the day after the election, and Jan. 3, when the new Congress is inaugurated. However, a federal judge overseeing the matter indicated Thursday that appointed U.S. Sen. Roland Burris won’t be eligible for the special election to finish out the term of the seat once held by President Barack Obama.

U.S. District Judge John F. Grady said he is prepared to issue a formal ruling in the next few days that would automatically place on the ballot major party contenders who won nomination in the Feb. 2 primary as candidates for the short-term vacancy. That means Democrat Alexi Giannoulias, Republican Mark Kirk and Green Party candidate LeAlan Jones would appear twice for election.

Given that there are rumblings that the Democrats will attempt to ram through a host of very unpopular, very liberal laws through the lame-duck session -- with their last breath, they spit at thee; from Hell's heart, they stab at thee -- it would be nice to have one more Republican in the Senate for this dangerous period.

By the way, the big scandal with Kirk is that he claimed that he had been awarded the honor of intelligence officer of the year for his work in Kosovo. The actual fact is that his unit had been awarded unit of the year, so, like, supposedly, he's a big fat liar like Blumenthal of Connecticut. He did get the award, but so did the other members of his team.

Really? Sure, a little extra shine on the resume, but seems to me to be a pretty small exaggeration, and really just a simplified way of saying "I got the award." He did. So did some other guys, but he got it too.


Posted by: Ace at 08:13 AM | Comments (402)
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1

I received the Nobel Prize for Physics in 2008.  Oh wait, that wasn't me, it was a guy I read about in People Magazine.

My bad.

Posted by: Cicero at July 30, 2010 08:18 AM (QKKT0)

2 As I have said before, the Senatorial Republicans need to get out in front of this lame duck issue.  Promise, in advance, to filibuster every bill in the session, even those they like, as a Point of Principle.

No lame duck sessions.

Posted by: toby928 at July 30, 2010 08:18 AM (8/oOq)

3

Yes, Kirk has had a few misstatements about his past military and teaching experiences. Meanwhile, Alexi's family and Alexi himself looted the family bank.

But of course, with the media here in Illinois, you can imagine what the greater sin is.

I am, however, guardly optimistic. Most folks expect turnout in the City of Chicago to be down. If Kirk can win the collar counties (those 5 mainly suburban counties around Chicago), combined with a sizeable victory downstate, he probably can pull it out by 3%.

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 30, 2010 08:19 AM (OWjjx)

4 Oh I don't know much about him but it is straight out of the dem playbook to "sort of say the truth".   I'm hearing from you "hey, at least he served"...is that correct?

I've heard the tony the weiner imploded on the house floor about this 9/11 bill for the responders.  I've heard king talk about the bill.  I'm wondering what weiner has attached to that bill that folks might want to know about.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 08:21 AM (p302b)

5 What's the latest on the polls for this race?

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 30, 2010 08:22 AM (yT8z7)

6 Yippee Mark fucking Kirk.  Say, is he polling better than "None of the above" yet?

Posted by: Methos at July 30, 2010 08:22 AM (FOoJl)

7 A resolution not to have a lame duck session?  Meh, but it's at least something.

Democrats Keep Door Open to Dangerous Lame Duck Session

Washington, Jul 29 - Republican Study Committee Chairman Tom Price (R-GA) issued the following statement after offering a resolution on the floor of the House of Representatives calling on Congress not to hold a lame duck session after Election Day for the purpose of passing hugely unpopular legislation like a national energy tax, enormous deficit spending bills, and the kickback to Big Labor known as “Card Check.”

“Americans are sick and tired of their elected leaders making backroom deals to ram through unpopular, 2000-page bills that no one has read,” said Chairman Price.  “They are sick of out-of-touch politicians, and they are tired of being ignored.  A number of Democrats, including members of their leadership, have recently expressed a desire to ignore the public will and use a lame duck session to pass liberal legislation Americans do not want.  Today I gave my Democrat colleagues an opportunity to show they are finally ready to listen to the American people.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at July 30, 2010 08:22 AM (9hSKh)

8

What's the latest on the polls for this race?

Varies from Giannolis up 2 to Kirk up 2. Basically, its a a dead heat.

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 30, 2010 08:23 AM (OWjjx)

9 Kirk has stated that he would vote for Kagan to the SC if he were in the Senate now. Just sayin'.

Posted by: SteveN at July 30, 2010 08:23 AM (7EV/g)

10 We've got someone for every race.  RINOs for the blue states, and , uh, mostly RINOs for the red states.

Posted by: Michael Steele, RNC at July 30, 2010 08:24 AM (QKKT0)

11 As an Illinois resident and a conservative it's an easy call. Kirk is a RINO. But he's up against Giannoulias who is crooked as they come. He's in deep with Rezko and was party to all sorts of criminal dealings at his family bank. He's as far left as they come. And worst of all, I heard him speak once. He mimicked Obama. He tried his hardest to sound exactly like President Zero. So do I want a Republican Senator who will vote the conservative line 90% of the time or a far left criminal who will help kill this nation? In leftist Illinois Kirk is about as conservative as they come. I'll be glad to pull the lever for him and the bad taste will be minimal.

Posted by: ChicagoJedi at July 30, 2010 08:24 AM (WZFkG)

12 Locally, they've been reporting the unit citation thing like it is an outright lie, not an exaggeration or misdirection.  The local newscasters have been making a big deal out of it.  They don't even bother mentioning the unit citation.

The individual reward is a hell of a lot different from a unit citation, but I can't be sure from any of the reporting if he ever claimed to have gotten the individual reward, or if certain people chose to interpret what he actually claimed so they could play gotcha on it later.

Posted by: kurtilator at July 30, 2010 08:25 AM (juh4Z)

13 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at July 30, 2010 01:22 PM (9hSKh)

well now, that's a nice sentiment but the MSM will ignore it.  Cause if you are a dem and you don't support the resolution then "can we assume congressman/congresswoman, that you are wholly against anything the American people think or have to say"

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 08:25 AM (p302b)

14
you know, for someone who isn't a Star Trek fan you sure do drop a lot of Star Trek geekery.

Posted by: Boner McSteele at July 30, 2010 08:26 AM (uFokq)

15 They will claim that since "Cap and Trade" raises revenue, that it is "deficit reduction" and use reconciliation to pass it.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 30, 2010 08:26 AM (0q2P7)

16

Your probably right.  I supported Scott Brown afterall.  (still can't get that taste out of my mouth). 

What's a little more fumuda cheese?

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 08:26 AM (r1h5M)

17 So the Democrats are looking to trade in a Klansman Senator for a mobster as their most infamous member?

Ah yes, the culture of corruption they promised us...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 30, 2010 08:27 AM (7BU4a)

18 Rush is going to be talking about a memo or soemthing that shows how they are going to bypass the senate and grant amnesty.  Then will they help soldiers have their votes count?

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 08:28 AM (p302b)

19 Because of rules of congress, actually any legislature, its majority or nothing, so take the rino in the blue state and be happy about it.  If you have the majority, you set the schedule and can nullify alot of the rino stuff.  and every seat really counts for the senate when we need to filibuster.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 30, 2010 08:29 AM (yT8z7)

20 So do I want a Republican Senator who will vote the conservative line 90%

Me too.  Where can I get one of those?

Posted by: Methos at July 30, 2010 08:29 AM (FOoJl)

21

As an Illinois resident and a conservative it's an easy call. Kirk is a RINO. But he's up against Giannoulias who is crooked as they come. He's in deep with Rezko and was party to all sorts of criminal dealings at his family bank. He's as far left as they come. And worst of all, I heard him speak once. He mimicked Obama. He tried his hardest to sound exactly like President Zero. So do I want a Republican Senator who will vote the conservative line 90% of the time or a far left criminal who will help kill this nation? In leftist Illinois Kirk is about as conservative as they come. I'll be glad to pull the lever for him and the bad taste will be minimal.

And let us not forgot, the wonderful leaders that make up the Illinois GOP did, actually, once nominate a true blue, pure as snow conservative to battle a far-left progressive for the office of Senator from the State of Illinois.

So, has anyone seen Senator Alan Keyes recently?

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 30, 2010 08:29 AM (OWjjx)

22 @12  I hope he goes conservative 90% of the time, and doesn't turn out to be another potato head sister or sphincter.  Still better than the bank robber/money launderer.  Giannoulis probably tells himself they were just liberating that cash so they could spread it around to the workers.

Posted by: kurtilator at July 30, 2010 08:29 AM (juh4Z)

23 Normally I'm pretty avid about RINO hunting (population control measures and all) but in this case, you can do worse.  Namely, having a D in that seat during the Lame Duck Misrule period.

Hold your breath and deal with the stench later.  Priorities.

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at July 30, 2010 08:29 AM (IkEhE)

24

In leftist Illinois Kirk is about as conservative as they come

Exactly. The best slogan his opponent could come up with is:  "Alexi Gianoulis: He's Not Currently Under Indictment!"  When the choice is between steak and a crap sandwich, it's not too hard to make a decision. When it's between Spam and a crap sandwich, it's still not too hard of a choice to make.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at July 30, 2010 08:29 AM (ERJIu)

25

So do I want a Republican Senator who will vote the conservative line 90%

Me too.  Where can I get one of those?

ummm....gentlemen?

Posted by: Jim DeMint (R-SC) at July 30, 2010 08:31 AM (OWjjx)

26

I live in IL. and have the ablity to cast a vote for Mark Kirk - IT IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!

I would rather cut off a limb than vote for Mark Kirk, he is nothing but a political hack, lair and opportunist, I don't give a damn if Giannoulias wins because there is no difference between him and Kirk.

I'll be writing in someone, maybe Al Reynolds, maybe Adam Andrewjiski I don't know yet....

and if you don't like it you can stuff it up your ass.

 

Posted by: shoey at July 30, 2010 08:32 AM (yCH89)

27

I received the Nobel Prize for Physics in 2008.  Oh wait, that wasn't me, it was a guy I read about in People Magazine.

That's nothing, I pulled a Nobel Prize for Peace out of a box of cracker jacks.  Not like they aren't given out that easily you know.. lol..

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at July 30, 2010 08:33 AM (e8T35)

28 could someone on the president's staff please tell him that he didn't take over ford?   This is like the third reference to ford that rush is playing and it does seem like BO really thinks ford's success is due to him.

Between the snookie references and the jonas brothers reference and the ford references are people afraid to tell the guy what is going on?

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 08:34 AM (p302b)

29 I thought I saw a day or two ago that the Nazi pollster Rasmussen had Kirk up by 6, but there was 10% undecided (and something like 5-6% for "other").

Posted by: SteveN at July 30, 2010 08:35 AM (7EV/g)

30 Time for Mullaly to stop playing Mr. Nice Guy and set ol BO and his staff straight.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 08:36 AM (p302b)

31 there is no difference between him and Kirk.

Majorities matter.  They are everything.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 30, 2010 08:36 AM (yT8z7)

32
I've heard the tony the weiner imploded on the house floor about this 9/11 bill for the responders.  I've heard king talk about the bill.  I'm wondering what weiner has attached to that bill that folks might want to know about.

I was listening in the background, but I believe Rush was saying the healthcare for 9/11 first responders was attached somehow to something dealing with immigration.  Typical slimy bastard Commicrat stuff.  Several Dems defected on it too, leaving the bill to die.  Weiner was livid because no Repubs jumped on board to make up for the defecting Dems.  Or some such....

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 30, 2010 08:36 AM (Zq7bR)

33 Look, my philosophy about RINOs is that they vote whichever way the political wind is blowing. Unless their name is McCain. With a near or actual majority in the Senate and a majority in the congress Kirk will vote the party line fairly regular. I hate RINOs with a passion but Villinois is as blue as it gets. Chicago is a bastion of leftist evil and the farmers are sadly all democrats by heritage. As much as tout ideological purity I doubt someone to the right of Kirk could win in Illinois.

Posted by: ChicagoJedi at July 30, 2010 08:36 AM (WZFkG)

34 it does seem like BO really thinks ford's success is due to him.

In a way, it is.  I swore not to buy GM or Chrysler so Ford got the benefit.

Posted by: toby928 at July 30, 2010 08:36 AM (8/oOq)

35 @29
Yeah, that was pretty much my point.  I'll eat the shit sandwich rather than guzzle the diarrhea shake, but I'm still annoyed by the blatnat dishonesty of the RINO boosters around here.  It's like if they keep repeating that 90% or 80% line, we're going to somehow forget that it's more like 55% and even that gets run up by votes on when to break for lunch.  Whenever it matters, on spending or social issues, if the Dems need another vote, we can expect Kirk to race the Maine twins to help them out.  That's just the way it is with the moderate fringe of the party.

Posted by: Methos at July 30, 2010 08:38 AM (FOoJl)

36 Kirk also says his middle name is Tiberius.

Posted by: Cicero at July 30, 2010 08:39 AM (QKKT0)

37 Posted by: Lady in Black at July 30, 2010 01:36 PM (Zq7bR)

In July he married Hillary's #1 go to girl Huma Abedin.  A lot of the daily news comments on the story say that he won't be able to visit the fam since her fam is still in SA and he is not of her faith.  Anyway, those same commenters seemed to think he was positioning himself, tony the weiner, as a presidential candidate someday.  Makes you wonder.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 08:39 AM (p302b)

38

This here is an Alabama Duck, Boy...Do you got an Alabama Duck License?

 

 

Posted by: Maryland State Trooper at July 30, 2010 08:40 AM (56Gx4)

39 Posted by: Methos at July 30, 2010 01:38 PM (FOoJl) 55% is still better than 0% 5% is better than 0% And so will the Senate majority

Posted by: ChicagoJedi at July 30, 2010 08:40 AM (WZFkG)

40

Given that there are rumblings that the Democrats will attempt to ram through a host of very unpopular, very liberal laws through the lame-duck session -- with their last breath, they spit at thee; from Hell's heart, they stab at thee --

I always thought there might be a bit of Captain Ahab in Ace.

Posted by: maddogg at July 30, 2010 08:40 AM (OlN4e)

41 I'd vote for Kirk if i lived in Illinois. IF we can get someone who votes with Republicans 20 % of the time in Illinois it would be a major victory.

Posted by: Ben at July 30, 2010 08:41 AM (wuv1c)

42

I just wanted everyone here to know that I was voted America's favorite city.

That is all.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 08:41 AM (oIp16)

43 So there's a chance I might find my vote less important and not the deciding vote? What's the IP addy for Giannoulias's donation page again?

Posted by: Scott Brown (Poke-in-the-Eye, MA) at July 30, 2010 08:41 AM (swuwV)

44 Like the fourth or fifth bluest state.

Blueness only measures party ID. The average voter's issue positions don't vary by much. The local "center" in any state only ranges from Webb/Lieberman(when he's mad at the Democrats) to Palin/Angle/Paul Jr. There's literally nowhere openly liberal candidates win on issues.

So if the GOP would make blue-state campaigns issue-oriented, rather than image-oriented, no left-obsequious RINO candidates would be necessary, anywhere.

I know—the GOP doesn't want to win like that. They refuse to, in fact, because losing is better for them. I know. Just sayin'.

Again.

Posted by: oblig. at July 30, 2010 08:41 AM (x7Ao8)

45

and if you don't like it you can stuff it up your ass.

 

Posted by: shoey

 

Hmmm. A shy, timid creature this.

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 30, 2010 08:41 AM (R2fpr)

46 there is no difference between poison and poison-lite, they both kill you.

Posted by: shoey at July 30, 2010 08:41 AM (yCH89)

47 Better, but nothing to get excited about.  You can crow about walking away with the Obama seat, or handing a defeat to the Daley machine, but don't try to celebrate Mark Kirk for his own sake.  That shit's just not going to fly.

Posted by: Methos at July 30, 2010 08:42 AM (FOoJl)

48 The poison is in the dose.

Posted by: toby928 at July 30, 2010 08:43 AM (8/oOq)

49 ...as did Newt Gingrich, and as do almost all Republicans) but the guy's walked away from that..

OK, has Newt ever renounced his couch session with Pelosi?  How am I supposed to just forget about obvious evidence of dangerous stupidity when evaluating someone in (or near) politics?

Posted by: ParisParamus at July 30, 2010 08:43 AM (GgR+e)

50 46

I just wanted everyone here to know that I was voted America's favorite city.

That is all.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 01:41 PM (oIp16)

I could recommend Jenny Craig.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 08:44 AM (r1h5M)

51 #43---You're pretty much correct. Having lived in Chicago, Kirk is the best we're going to get. You will never have Tom Coburn in Illinois. It's a machine state that is totally centered around the city and the burbs. OR Everyone can vote for Alex G, who is Obama's best friend. To quote the Sham-Wow guy, "I don't know, it sells itself."

Posted by: MJ at July 30, 2010 08:44 AM (BKOsZ)

52

49

the time for meekness has long passed, the nation can no longer afford it.

Posted by: shoey at July 30, 2010 08:44 AM (yCH89)

53

I could recommend Jenny Craig.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 01:44 PM (r1h5M)

Is she hot?

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 08:44 AM (oIp16)

54 Herman Mellville?  Is that you, still alive in A of S  ??

Where's the While Whale?

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, cultural savant at July 30, 2010 08:45 AM (JrRME)

55 and the WhiTe Whale, too.  Moby  D ??

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, cultural savant at July 30, 2010 08:45 AM (JrRME)

56 People keep saying Illinois is blue, but it is chancago and the dribble out the end of Lake Michigan streaming along I-55 to where it splashes on St. Louis that is blue.  The rest of the state is fairly conservative, but some pretty slick gerrymandering keeps us from being heard.

Posted by: kurtilator at July 30, 2010 08:45 AM (juh4Z)

57 Between mark levin and glenn beck and michael savage, you would think "it's all over"....those guys are depressing their audience....people are just about to give up and Beck is going to find himself alone in august cause people are just too afraid to go out and protest anything anymore...

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 08:46 AM (p302b)

58 #36  I was listening in the background, but I believe Rush was saying the healthcare for 9/11 first responders was attached somehow to something dealing with immigration.  Typical slimy bastard Commicrat stuff.  Several Dems defected on it too, leaving the bill to die.  Weiner was livid because no Repubs jumped on board to make up for the defecting Dems.  Or some such....

The Dems also changed the rules on its passage.  I think this particular bill needed 2/3rds to pass rather than simple majority because of some parliamentary procedure trickery IIRC.  If "92%" of Dems voted for it, that's 214, 215 votes.

The Dems knew how bad the attached Amendments were.  It was a political shell-game, nothing more.  Weiner (ala Dick) lived up to his name by engaging in that tantrum on the House floor.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at July 30, 2010 08:46 AM (9hSKh)

59

Mark Kirk: He's not that much of a RINO

That would make a great bumper sticker!

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 08:46 AM (oIp16)

60

Is she hot?

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 01:44 PM (oIp16)

I know she likes those city sized folks.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 08:46 AM (r1h5M)

61 "So do I want a Republican Senator who will vote the conservative line 90%"

Methos: "Me too. Where can I get one of those?"

There's one running in Arizona. And then there's McCain.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 30, 2010 08:47 AM (swuwV)

62 I hate the way people always refer to Chicago style politics and the Chicago machine, blah blah blah.  It's bullshit corrupt 3d world banana republic politics.  Nothing to be proud of or to hold in respect.  You guys live in a domestic banana republic.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 30, 2010 08:47 AM (bw+Qn)

63

By the way, the big scandal with Kirk is that he claimed that he had been awarded the honor of intelligence officer of the year for his work in Kosovo. The actual fact is that his unit had been awarded unit of the year.

I'd like to see Kirk's award-winning unit.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan (apology to be supplied at a later time) at July 30, 2010 08:48 AM (QKKT0)

64

That would make a great bumper sticker!

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 01:46 PM (oIp16)

How 'bout: Vote for Kirk. You can punish yourself later.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 08:48 AM (r1h5M)

65

.people are just about to give up and Beck is going to find himself alone in august cause people are just too afraid to go out and protest anything anymore...

Not likely. Us rasist teapartiers will be there when they pull their first Ohio State on us. Will Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young write us a snappy tune?

Posted by: maddogg at July 30, 2010 08:48 AM (OlN4e)

66 Chi-town Shi-town.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 30, 2010 08:49 AM (bw+Qn)

67 I'd like to see Kirk's award-winning unit.

Well played, sir.

Posted by: Hey.Wheres.Barry at July 30, 2010 08:49 AM (gQLr2)

68 57-42

Posted by: Truman North at July 30, 2010 08:49 AM (e8YaH)

69 Posted by: oblig. at July 30, 2010 01:41 PM (x7Ao You've never been to Chicago. The various Chicago factions spout open socialism on a daily basis. Their opponents end up dead floating down the river. If Lenin rose from the grave and ran local office he'd likely win.

Posted by: ChicagoJedi at July 30, 2010 08:49 AM (WZFkG)

70

Great bumper sticker:

Mark Kirk, could be worse...

Posted by: maddogg at July 30, 2010 08:50 AM (OlN4e)

71 Posted by: maddogg at July 30, 2010 01:48 PM (OlN4e)

That's not funny.  People are legitimately fearful.  The world is so upside down these days, even sarcozy has been accused of racism.  Nothing is normal, nothing.  So you can understand people's reticence.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 08:51 AM (p302b)

72

Posted by: oblig. at July 30, 2010 01:41 PM (x7Ao

You've never been to Chicago. The various Chicago factions spout open socialism on a daily basis. Their opponents end up dead floating down the river. If Lenin rose from the grave and ran local office he'd likely win.

I get the station WON on channel 19 here in pittsburgh. It is the local chicago station, i have no idea why i get it, but i do. Their local news is essentially MSNBC on a local level.

I can't imagine how people live there

Posted by: Ben at July 30, 2010 08:51 AM (wuv1c)

73

bumper sticker:

Mark Kirk, him you can take to the bank. And he won't rob it.!

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 30, 2010 08:51 AM (R2fpr)

74 O/T but relevant to the larger issue, which is that we need to replace every damn one of the 535 pampered, corrupt greedheads in Congress:

According to a headline at Drudge, the House Ethnics Committee wants to censure Rangel. That's the second-most minor "punishment" they can mete out, being slightly rougher than a slap to Charlie's hand with a licorice whip.

When these jerks are so insulated, why bother with any of 'em? Broom out the whole crooked lot and start fresh.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 30, 2010 08:52 AM (Ulu3i)

75 That's not funny.  People are legitimately fearful.  The world is so upside down these days, even sarcozy has been accused of racism.  Nothing is normal, nothing.  So you can understand people's reticence.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 01:51 PM (p302b)

Not funny? Good, because I'm not fucking kidding.

Posted by: maddogg at July 30, 2010 08:52 AM (OlN4e)

76 You got any biskits fer sale in there? Mmm.

What you got in there that's good te eat?

Posted by: Karl Childers at July 30, 2010 08:52 AM (17bwz)

77 Mark Kirk for Senate.  Ask about his award-winning unit.

Posted by: Cicero at July 30, 2010 08:53 AM (QKKT0)

78 60 People keep saying Illinois is blue, but it is chancago and the dribble out the end of Lake Michigan streaming along I-55 to where it splashes on St. Louis that is blue.  The rest of the state is fairly conservative, but some pretty slick gerrymandering keeps us from being heard.

This is true in many places. Oregon is ruled by Portland and two college towns. Washington, by Sea/Tac. And regrettably, my beloved Colorado, now ruled by the former Californians who have set up shop in Denver/Boulder.

Posted by: Sad.Coloradan at July 30, 2010 08:53 AM (gQLr2)

79

shoey, I'm with you. Normally in a situation like this I'll write in my own name. This time I'm taking a look at Stufflebeam in the Consitution Party and might throw my vote to him. Maybe he'll be able to break 5% or even 10% and make a story out of it.

And for those who think that Kirk is as conservative as we could have gotten in IL, you're dead wrong. I made this point a previous time this subject came up: when it became clear that Alexi was going to be the Dem candidate (and that was well before the primary where it took some real work to pull him across the finish line), with all the baggage and likely future endictment, the Repubs had the chance to pick someone more palatable to the conservatives. There was no need for them to clear the field pre-primary the way they did. Hell, the odds are good that Brady will win the governor's race and he's much more conservative than Kirk. And his opponent, Quinn, doesn't have the legal problems hanging over his head that Giannoulis does. So if Brady looks good in a statewide race, why not someone else to the right of Kirk?

 

Posted by: SteveN at July 30, 2010 08:54 AM (7EV/g)

80 The media in Chicago and Illinois are trying to find every piece of dirt on Kirk that it can. Including a story when he was a teenager and almost drowned. Meanwhile Giannoulias who is a complete crook and his bank may have laundered mob money is getting a free pass. In fact, a producer for the local CBS station proclaimed that he was sick of the Giannoulias' bank stories and wouldn't cover it any more.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 30, 2010 08:55 AM (1Jaio)

81

 Mark Kirk: He's Not an Avowed Communist!

 

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 08:56 AM (oIp16)

82

Also –as I’ve said, I’ve known Kirk for a long time. He held town meetings every few months and I spoke to him and his staff several times. I always got the sense he was a core conservative who moderated some positions for this district (enviro issues like can’n'tax are very popular here in affluent Lake County), not a liberal who took a few token conservative positions.

Senators serve for six years. His convictions will come out more than they have as a rep.

SUPPORT KIRK

Also –as I’ve said, I’ve known Kirk for a long time. He held town meetings every few months and I spoke to him and his staff several times. I always got the sense he was a core conservative who moderated some positions for this district (enviro issues like can’n'tax are very popular here in affluent Lake County), not a liberal who took a few token conservative positions.

Senators serve for six years. His convictions will come out more than they have as a rep.

SUPPORT KIRK

Posted by: TallDave at July 30, 2010 08:56 AM (/s1LA)

83 Posted by: MrScribbler at July 30, 2010 01:52 PM

Sorry, should have said "reprimand," not "censure." I gather in Congress-speak a censure is far harsher than a reprimand. Rangel might even lose his key to the House playroom if censured. For a day, anyway.

Posted by: MrScribbler at July 30, 2010 08:56 AM (Ulu3i)

84 Stufflebeam?  Is that a made-up name?  It has to be a made-up name!

Posted by: Truman North at July 30, 2010 08:57 AM (e8YaH)

85 #67  I'd like to see Kirk's award-winning unit.

Me too.  Can it be serviced as readily as my Nobel-Price winning unit?

Posted by: Al Gore at July 30, 2010 08:57 AM (9hSKh)

86 MrScribbler: "According to a headline at Drudge, the House Ethnics Committee wants to censure Rangel."

OK, that makes blood shoot out of my eyes. Who's in charge of bringing the meteors today?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 30, 2010 08:57 AM (swuwV)

87

Oops-- sorry for the mispasta there.

Kirk’s been my Congressman for seven years. He’s not the ideal conservative candidate, but would you rather have Scott Brown or Martha Coakley right now? That’s the choice here in IL.

SUPPORT KIRK

Trust me, this is the best you’ll get from the People’s Republic of Illinois. And the alternative will be very very bad for America.

Also –as I’ve said, I’ve known Kirk for a long time. He held town meetings every few months and I spoke to him and his staff several times. I always got the sense he was a core conservative who moderated some positions for this district (enviro issues like can’n'tax are very popular here in affluent Lake County), not a liberal who took a few token conservative positions.

Senators serve for six years. His convictions will come out more than they have as a rep.

Posted by: TallDave at July 30, 2010 08:57 AM (/s1LA)

88 That's worse than Hickenlooper.

Posted by: Truman North at July 30, 2010 08:57 AM (e8YaH)

89 Yeah, Illinois could have done better than Kirk...but it didn't.  You can't fight the battle you wish you had; deal with what you have and roll with it.

And they only get one Ohio State.  After that, it's on.

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at July 30, 2010 08:58 AM (IkEhE)

90

Just saw over at Jihad Watch,

Major Hasan is still drawing 6K a month from Uncle Sam. 

Really.  But banks will not take the checks.  I'm guessing because the money is obviously tied to Islamic terror and international terror through the Yemen Imam.

Of course that also means the US Government should be charged with material support to terrorism.  

Sounds like an impeachable offense to me.

(To dream the impossible dream...) 

Posted by: Beagle at July 30, 2010 08:58 AM (sOtz/)

91 Posted by: Ben at July 30, 2010 01:51 PM (wuv1c) It's because even with rampant corruption and bums shitting openly in the streets it's still a great town. The let hasn't been able to completely destroy it yet. That speaks volumes about the great people here. I had moved out of state a while back. It was like journeying out of hell into the light of dawn in terms of politics. Can you say privatized DMV? Oh, heaven. I only recently moved back to help my Mom move out. It's so bad I should have just left my Mom behind. I'll be moving as soon as humanly possible.

Posted by: ChicagoJedi at July 30, 2010 08:59 AM (WZFkG)

92 Rush is surprised that the administration is looking for way to avoid congress when Beck said today that their mission was to make congress a moot point, render them useless, unimportant, irrelevant.

Look, when he raised the salaries for those who work in the WH he was insuring that he would attract the best and the brightest.  Now they are earning their pay and the republicans remain silent.  (except for mike pence, as I was told this morning)

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 08:59 AM (p302b)

93 We can fight the primary battle with a Delorian, a little plutonium, and a fellow named Doc Brown. In the present we can either cast a vote for an (R) or throw away a vote. It's that simple.

Posted by: MJ at July 30, 2010 09:00 AM (BKOsZ)

94 Two-edged sword here folks.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 09:01 AM (/jbAw)

95 SteveN: "So if Brady looks good in a statewide race, why not someone else to the right of Kirk?"

If we can't co-opt him, well, we're just not interested. Besides, Tea gives us indigestion.

Posted by: Trent Lott, The Sense of the GOP Senate at July 30, 2010 09:01 AM (swuwV)

96 What makes you think he won't vote with the Democrats? He'll have 5 years before he has to pretend to be a Republican again.

Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at July 30, 2010 09:04 AM (QBQcg)

97 Yeah, that Drudge link is to the NY Post. He gets a reprimand for tax evasion (not avoidance), abuse of parking privileges, and abuse of rent control apartments. Two of these crimes are at a minimum fraud and most likely felonies.

He will get a reprimand. This is no more than I expected, a whitewash. He should be expelled and the charges turned over to the DOJ............

Nevermind, I got excited there for a minute.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 09:05 AM (/jbAw)

98 Maybe it would be best if the republican lost and the dem had his 60 days.  That's enough time for him to get people angry and not get reelection.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 09:06 AM (p302b)

99

Peter Fitzgerald was one of the most honest and conservative senators this country had and he came from Illinois. Had the Illinois republican establishment, staffed with jerks like Kirk, not railroaded him out of office 6 years ago, we wouldn’t be saying President Obama today.

Posted by: Mike H at July 30, 2010 09:07 AM (bPW+f)

100 All your elections are belong to us.

Posted by: your Mongrel Overlords at July 30, 2010 09:08 AM (YVZlY)

101 Megyn is showing the "tony the weiner" implosion.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 09:08 AM (p302b)

102 Fox has it now and they are calling it a "slap on the wrist". They are also comparing it to Newt who got a reprimand for selling his book out of his organization.

So lets see here, 13 unethical acts with three of them being felonies and you get the same punishment as a Republican who sold a book?

Yeah that's justice and it also shows how much support Newt got from the traitor RINOs at the time who wanted to take over the Party.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 09:09 AM (/jbAw)

103 You're going to love my nuts!

Posted by: Vince "Slap Chop" Weiner at July 30, 2010 09:10 AM (yQWNf)

104 What makes you think he won't vote with the Democrats? He'll have 5 years before he has to pretend to be a Republican again.

Because majorities set the agenda and what gets voted on is just as important as who.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes being a broken clock at July 30, 2010 09:10 AM (yT8z7)

105 Electing a RINO is dangerous because they can defect and provide the polish of bipartisanship to all kinds of lefty crap. If it were 70-30 either direction, then Kirk would be OK With it this close, he will always be in a position to backstab us and be open to inducements. If the mobster gets in, you can almost guarantee a nice scandal or two in time for 2012. I would vote for Kirk and Brady, but not exactly bust my ass for Kirk.

Posted by: Jean at July 30, 2010 09:11 AM (3Ds00)

106 SteveN: "So if Brady looks good in a statewide race, why not someone else to the right of Kirk?" Because Brady is running to replace Blago whose going through trial right now. Kirk is trying to win Obama's seat and in Chicago they still see him as a messiah. Besides nobody likes Quinn. Even the leftist newspapers call him an idiot on page 1. Could a true conservative win in Illinois? Sure. If they had insane charisma, no hint of dirt dealings in the past, and a shrewd politician. Currently none exist in Illinois. Even then with unheard of amazingness he'd have the hardest fight in political history before him. Not to mention mobsters trying to kill him. But it's all moot because Kirk IS the candidate. Any vote that isn't for Kirk is for Giannoliiollloiuos. Call it a vote for the GOP. Call it a vote for senate majority. Call it whatever you want, but having a run-of-the-mill Republican in Obama's vacant seat would be a powerful thing.

Posted by: ChicagoJedi at July 30, 2010 09:11 AM (WZFkG)

107 Now megyn's talking about the amnesty thing next...

ok, which of you morons/moronettes is megyn?

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 09:11 AM (p302b)

108 Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 02:09 PM (/jbAw)

A trial, pushed by republicans, may have hurt the republicans in the long run.  Rangel would be able to play the full out "racism" card, something almost everyone on the planet wants to get past.  If you take the ability to call "racism" out of their arsenal then you are deflating yet another one of their bubbles.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 09:14 AM (p302b)

109 OT poll dancing:  RCP has Odumbass at a new low on the averages.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 30, 2010 09:16 AM (yT8z7)

110 Brady is running to replace Quinn. Blago is old news and his trial will be old news by election day.

Posted by: SteveN at July 30, 2010 09:17 AM (7EV/g)

111 I'd rather have a majority with a few RINOs then be doomed to the minority while Dems destroy the country.  If it means electing a RINO in blue states like Illinois then I'm all for it.  What I cannot accept is places like South Carolina or Utah putting RINO's in the senate.  Bennett got his, I hope Graham is next.

Posted by: Dunkirk at July 30, 2010 09:18 AM (kbHJ6)

112 Because majorities set the agenda and what gets voted on is just as important as who. Posted by: Guy Fawkes being a broken clock at July 30, 2010 02:10 PM (yT8z7) The Republicans, even if they take back the Senate, will NOT have the majority until the new Congress is sworn in. What makes you think Kirk won't vote with the Dems in the lame duck session?

Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at July 30, 2010 09:18 AM (QBQcg)

113 116 Because majorities set the agenda and what gets voted on is just as important as who.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes being a broken clock at July 30, 2010 02:10 PM (yT8z7)

The Republicans, even if they take back the Senate, will NOT have the majority until the new Congress is sworn in.

What makes you think Kirk won't vote with the Dems in the lame duck session?

Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at July 30, 2010 02:18 PM (QBQcg)

Now you're just being paranoid.

Posted by: Dunkirk at July 30, 2010 09:19 AM (kbHJ6)

114 We're going to have to stop being afraid of the "racist card". The leftist fucks have worn that shit out to the point of meaningless. It means nothing to be called a racist by the left, because everybody knows it's a lie they pull out when they're beat. Call me a racist and see if I give a fuck. Then fucking PROVE it.

Posted by: maddogg at July 30, 2010 09:19 AM (OlN4e)

115 Rangel has a lot of power.  Knows a lot of "stuff".  And his biggest booster is nanny p....
so he will get his slap on the wrist and his committee chairmanship back and it's business as usual....
and the MSM will say absolutely nothing..

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 09:22 AM (p302b)

116 A trial, pushed by republicans, may have hurt the republicans in the long run

BS, that's just another one of those lame "this is not our hill to die on strategies". Ultimately you die in the swamp becuase you never make an attempt to climb the hill.

Republicans should be fighting tooth and nail for every issue and fk the cries of "racism". They are going to cry racism whether you fight or surrender anyway.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 09:23 AM (/jbAw)

117 Posted by: Dunkirk at July 30, 2010 02:19 PM (kbHJ6) Are you serious? Kirk supports embryonic stem cell research, hate crime legislation, transporting minors across state-lines for the purpose of abortion, and cap and trade. He lies about being worried about kids bringing guns to school when he was a teacher (Sunday school teacher) and lies about his military record. He is a died in the wool Democrat. He will make the Maine Sisters look like Marget Thatcher and Ronald Reagan.

Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at July 30, 2010 09:24 AM (QBQcg)

Posted by: Truman North at July 30, 2010 09:25 AM (e8YaH)

119 The last thing the Dims want is Rangle on TV between now and November - for anything, even kissing babies. I suspect they don't want a series of legal battles over AZ's law either. They would probably be better off if they just let it go into effect and hope for a scandalous arrest.

Posted by: Jean at July 30, 2010 09:26 AM (2w7HE)

120 Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 02:23 PM (/jbAw)
It looks to me that the republicans are choosing the swamp.  They aren't fighting anything.  They aren't standing up for anything.  It's like someone waved a magic wand and they were all neutered.


Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 09:26 AM (p302b)

121  Chicago Mongrel bowing is in order

Posted by: kathysaysso at July 30, 2010 09:27 AM (ZtwUX)

122 Shitown.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 30, 2010 09:27 AM (bw+Qn)

123 To be neutered, you had to have had balls to begin with. Most of our crop of Republicans were born steers.

Posted by: maddogg at July 30, 2010 09:28 AM (OlN4e)

124 Kirk is a loser. AliG is a very weak candidate and given the red wave sweeping the country now, you'd think any halfway decent guy could pull this off. and yet he stumbles on his service record, turning his strength into a liability, and then proudly annouces that he supports Kagan. Couple that with his cap and trade vote and you've got yourself another companion for Snowe, Collins and Brown in the senate.

Posted by: exceller at July 30, 2010 09:29 AM (jx2Td)

125 They aren't fighting anything.

They are fighting some things. You just don't hear about all of them because the media doesn't talk about it. They only broadcast about the stuff like "filibustering the small business law" without saying what is actually in the law.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 09:30 AM (/jbAw)

126 Can someone explain why so much of the Jewish vote goes Democrat?

McMahon Campaign Hits Grimm For Taking 'Jewish Money'Mike McMahon is the Representative for Staten Island and parts of Brooklyn.  Grimm is the Republican challenger.  I guess McMahon figures the Jews, like the Blacks, are on the Democrat Plantation and it doesn;t matter what he does.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at July 30, 2010 09:32 AM (7nGrG)

127

shoey, I'm with you. Normally in a situation like this I'll write in my own name. This time I'm taking a look at Stufflebeam in the Consitution Party and might throw my vote to him. Maybe he'll be able to break 5% or even 10% and make a story out of it.

I'll be writing in someone, maybe Al Reynolds, maybe Adam Andrewjiski I don't know yet....

and if you don't like it you can stuff it up your ass.

shooey, steve...say hi to Senator Alan Keyes for me.

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 30, 2010 09:33 AM (OWjjx)

128 126  Chicago Mongrel bowing is in order

Usually that angers me, but it's funny that he's doing it to Chris Christie. (Perhaps even poetic?)  He just doesn't know when to stop, does he?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at July 30, 2010 09:33 AM (HQSQk)

129

The GOP certainly does fight for stuff.  Remember when they decided not to try to hold up the vote on Obamacare in the Senate, and let everyone go home for Christmas?  That was awesome, because then the Senate had to vote on raising the national debt ceiling a couple of months later.

That is a hard-fought victory.

Posted by: Truman North at July 30, 2010 09:33 AM (e8YaH)

130 The Republicans, even if they take back the Senate, will NOT have the majority until the new Congress is sworn in. What makes you think Kirk won't vote with the Dems in the lame duck session? Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at July 30, 2010 02:18 PM (QBQcg) Yes, there will be a limited time in which the dems will still have majority. BUT Kirk will also have just watched a shit ton of Republicans get elected the same night as him. He isn't stupid. He knows where his bread will be buttered once the GOP gains majority. Why would he possibly vote with the dems who are going out the door instead of the GOP which decides which committees he's get placed on?

Posted by: ChicagoJedi at July 30, 2010 09:33 AM (WZFkG)

131 Maybe I'm being too negative.  Perhaps we should discuss what Kirk did in his time in the house to earn a chance at a senate seat.

Posted by: Methos at July 30, 2010 09:34 AM (FOoJl)

132 Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at July 30, 2010 02:32 PM (7nGrG)

NY politicians used to talk about "the jewish bullet" when I was a kid, I heard this, not so much nowadays.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 09:34 AM (p302b)

133

He is a died in the wool Democrat. He will make the Maine Sisters look like Marget Thatcher and Ronald Reagan.

Kirk voted no on the Stimulus. So, on that regard, the Maine Sisters are worse.

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 30, 2010 09:34 AM (OWjjx)

134

Why would he possibly vote with the dems who are going out the door instead of the GOP which decides which committees he's get placed on?

Why, indeed?  Why, oh why indeed?

Posted by: Scott Brown at July 30, 2010 09:34 AM (e8YaH)

135

#130

There are, what, 60 days in the special post election session?

Say the newly elected and existing Rino brigade is

KIRK CASTLE COLLINS SNOWE BROWN.

Republicans btw just won also in IN/AR/ND/PA/CO/NV with conservatives, WI with a businessman, and FL/CA/WA are all still in recount status.

With the prospect of a Republican congress hanging over their heads, or at least one that is more split- 47 or more Republicans...

it does NOTHING for them to switch sides and support the Dem legislation.

Even where one of htem have broken away, it took WEEKS between initiation of the legislation and their cave. Dems have 8, to break off 2. They couldn't do it that quickly with their own "moderates" over O-Care (Nelson,Landeiu,Lincoln,etc).

 

It makes more political sense for them to stand their ground for the session because they have more to gain that way. Its all about the sense of power for them.

They lose that the instant a) there are 5-6 more conservatives in the Senate and b) the GOP wins the majority UNLESS they "stand strong" and then get lavished of course with undue praise for, you know, VOTING AS WE WANT THEM TOO.

Posted by: CAC at July 30, 2010 09:35 AM (lV4Fs)

136 132 Can someone explain why so much of the Jewish vote goes Democrat?

Because the "religion" of most American Jews is liberalism. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at July 30, 2010 09:37 AM (9hSKh)

137 Time to act strategically. Kirk is better than a Democrat, even if he's a major RINO. Remember, without Scott Brown, DISCLOSE would be law right now.

Posted by: Chris R at July 30, 2010 09:38 AM (AO4qz)

138 Get the best you can get considering the district/state.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at July 30, 2010 09:40 AM (O9Cc8)

139 Perception becomes reality ....The MFM reports that sheriff joe b. says that the dems are going to surprise everyone and keep their seats.  People don't see republicans out there fighting for them, instead they see these bills that are 2000 pages plus with all kinds of little gotcha things thrown in to make it interesting.  Republicans might get so depressed that they just stay home.  I know you don't' want to hear this but the average person, not on a blog like this, is only hearing snippets and reading headlines and worried about jlo being on American Idol and Chelsea Clinton's wedding.  And the new little fly in the ointment is the folks on places like newspaper sites and people type magazine sites, asking the innocent question "how many people do you know personally who lost their job, or lost their house or whose 401k or IRA is really in bad shape.  The intimation being that somehow, if you don't know anyone, then really they don't exist.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 09:41 AM (p302b)

140

#143

Brown voted for Financial Deform.

Brown voted against DISCLOSE.

50/50

So say Kirk is as bad as Brown with loyalty.

at worst he stops only 50% of the shit (and thats only IF Brown, Collins, Snowe ALSO go that way) in the very, very short session before January 3.

 

That is MILES better than a 0% shot with Alexi.

Posted by: CAC at July 30, 2010 09:41 AM (lV4Fs)

141 If we didn't work so hard to elect Scott Brown, Obamacare and the financial overhaul would be the law of the land today.

Posted by: Truman North at July 30, 2010 09:41 AM (e8YaH)

142

#143

Brown voted for Financial Deform.

Brown voted against DISCLOSE.

50/50

So say Kirk is as bad as Brown with loyalty.

at worst he stops only 50% of the shit (and thats only IF Brown, Collins, Snowe ALSO go that way) in the very, very short session before January 3.

 

That is MILES better than a 0% shot with Alexi.

Posted by: CAC at July 30, 2010 09:42 AM (lV4Fs)

143
The GOP certainly does fight for stuff.

holy shit, don't get me started

Posted by: Boner McSteele at July 30, 2010 09:42 AM (uFokq)

144 If only we could get some politicians from Illinois who weren't so sleazy and corrupt. Like, I dunno, someone who isn't a politician.....or from Illinois.

Posted by: cthulhu at July 30, 2010 09:42 AM (/0IOT)

145 CAC, I want control of the House and 41 rock solid conservative Senators. I don't need the Senate to do anything - except nothing. Let nothing from the left happen, period. No conference committees, nothing. If a bill isn't 100% the same as what passed in the House - shut it down. As long as we have 41 solid votes, the rest is gravy.

Posted by: Jean at July 30, 2010 09:44 AM (yGYDb)

146 #147 With a Democrat in MA, we'd have gotten both.

Posted by: Chris R at July 30, 2010 09:44 AM (AO4qz)

147 If Kirk is so weak doesn't it make you think that the republican/conservatives in the state didn't really pick the candidate, that the MSM did and they just went along for the ride?

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 09:45 AM (p302b)

148 Mallamutt, first off, I didn't have any say in throwing Jack Ryan under the bus or in picking Alan Keyes as his replacement. Also, at no point in my post did I indicate that I thought that my potential choice in the upcoming will actually be the winner. So if you're trying to imply that I'm delusional then you're off base. You're just upset that there might be enough people taking similar action to deny Kirk a victory. Too bad.

Posted by: SteveN at July 30, 2010 09:46 AM (7EV/g)

149

154 If Kirk is so weak doesn't it make you think that the republican/conservatives in the state didn't really pick the candidate, that the MSM did and they just went along for the ride?

You have nothing to fear from electing Mark Kirk.

Posted by: John McCain at July 30, 2010 09:46 AM (e8YaH)

150

Brown voted for Financial Deform.

Brown voted against DISCLOSE.

50/50

And Kirk voted against Obamacare and the Stimulus....so its better than 50/50. The only knock people have is 1) his Cap and Trade vote (that he has walked back from) and 2) Kagan. So, its more like 66 and 2/3% of the time.

So, for those knocking Kirk, lets ask the question: what is better having someone right 2/3 of the time or having someone who is right none of the time? Yea, I live in Illinois, and would love to elect and DeMint or a Colburn...but it just isn't going to happen in this cycle.

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 30, 2010 09:46 AM (OWjjx)

151 There was a time when, except for the sewer in the north east part of the state, Illinois was conservative to the core.

Posted by: Moi at July 30, 2010 09:46 AM (bjYAr)

152 Nobody could have been worse than Ted Kennedy, who Brown replaced. Every MA Senate vote that goes our way is like a gift from heaven.
Value Brown now because the Dems are going to pull out all the stops to get "their" seat back in 2012.

Posted by: lincolntf at July 30, 2010 09:48 AM (+O8yf)

153

You're just upset that there might be enough people taking similar action to deny Kirk a victory. Too bad.

And SteveN, would you like me to hand you the knife to cut your own nose off...or would you prefer to self-serve.

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 30, 2010 09:48 AM (OWjjx)

154 Truman North: "If we didn't work so hard to elect Scott Brown, Obamacare and the financial overhaul would be the law of the land today."

Oh, snap!

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 30, 2010 09:48 AM (swuwV)

155 148 If we didn't work so hard to elect Scott Brown, Obamacare and the financial overhaul would be the law of the land today.

Posted by: Truman North

You may recall that Obamacare was a trickfuck sleazy legislative maneuver in the House, not the Senate.  Scott Brown never got the opportunity to do anything with it either way.


Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at July 30, 2010 09:49 AM (IQBsP)

156 Posted by: Moi at July 30, 2010 02:46 PM (bjYAr)

That is really hard to believe.  What happened.  Cause I know in my state, people whisper that you are throwing your vote away if you vote for the republican cause the dems are in power.  They say it is all about the power.  This is why chuckie keeps getting re elected, cause no one dares to challenge him, no one.  although if you tell this to tom suozzi he will call you a liar.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 09:49 AM (p302b)

157

thats the thing to stress, Mallamutt.

THIS CYCLE.

The primary is done, so you have two options- vote kirk, or vote for AliG.

NOT voting for Kirk = Voting for AliG.

The choice might be rotten, but its pretty fucking simple.

I suspect most hate the choice but looking at what whining about Rinos has done for us (as a party with <41 votes until March) against Obama, and the sheer horror of NO check to Obamas power unless we make SERIOUS gains in the house and senate, and probably no effective one unless we flip both... most Illinois conservatives will go "goddamnit" and pull Kirk in November.

Posted by: CAC at July 30, 2010 09:50 AM (lV4Fs)

158 I was making with the jokes.  I like Scott Brown a little-- exactly the same amount that he differs from the Swimmer

Posted by: Truman North at July 30, 2010 09:51 AM (e8YaH)

159 You're assuming that by trying to deny what you want that I will end up denying what I want. Wrong assumption.

Posted by: SteveN at July 30, 2010 09:51 AM (7EV/g)

160 Yeah, they had Everette Dirksen for a while who wasn't too bad on most issues. 

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 09:52 AM (/jbAw)

161 Conduct in violation of the letterhead rule?  OMG Charles, the letterhead rule, how could you?

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 09:53 AM (p302b)

162

Brown voted for Financial Deform.

Brown voted against DISCLOSE.

50/50

The new Scott Brown, now with 50% less socialism, and 0% transfat.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at July 30, 2010 09:53 AM (e8T35)

163

You're assuming that by trying to deny what you want that I will end up denying what I want. Wrong assumption.

No, I was assuming you understood politics and logic.

My bad.

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 30, 2010 09:54 AM (OWjjx)

164
you two sound really gay right now

Posted by: Boner McSteele at July 30, 2010 09:55 AM (uFokq)

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 09:56 AM (p302b)

166

162 You may recall that Obamacare was a trickfuck sleazy legislative maneuver in the House, not the Senate.  Scott Brown never got the opportunity to do anything with it either way.

But his election alone forced the trickfuck sleazyness.  So, still a point for him.  And like others have said, 50 to 66% of a RINO is better than 0% of a liberal.

Posted by: Dunkirk at July 30, 2010 09:56 AM (kbHJ6)

167

Tell me how successful that IL GOP strategy has been these past couple of decades.

Yep, your bad.

Posted by: SteveN at July 30, 2010 09:57 AM (7EV/g)

168 Did she actually say yesterday that the swamp was described as a criminal syndicate operating out of republican offices?   Did she really really really say that?  And not one republican has seen fit to challenge that statement?  it sint' all over the airwaves?

Are there sedatives in that free bottled water?

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 09:57 AM (p302b)

169 10 Kirk has stated that he would vote for Kagan to the SC if he were in the Senate now. Just sayin'.

What's wrong with that?

Posted by: Lindsey, I am NOT ghey, Graham at July 30, 2010 09:58 AM (2+9Yx)

170

Tell me how successful that IL GOP strategy has been these past couple of decades.

You mean 2 decades of the hard right and the moderate fighting each other has worked...not too well.

This time the IL GOP got it right, balance. Brady for governor and Kirk for Senate. Did it by accident.

Meanwhile, running the exclusive hard right candidates (Keyes, Salvi, et. al) has resulted in.........yea, tons of victories.

Mind you, when the IL GOP was running the more moderate candidates (Thompson, Edgar) they had a fair amount of success. Either one of thes 2 guys my first choice for anything...nope. But, they could win the collar countires, and win downstate, which is what mattered. 

Game. set. Match.

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 30, 2010 10:00 AM (OWjjx)

171

Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does.

1-10-12-13-20-36

Posted by: fortune cookie at July 30, 2010 10:00 AM (8/oOq)

172 The ME sisters said today they were going to vote for her as well.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 10:00 AM (/jbAw)

173 I don't know, if nanny says something and the MSM covers what she says and then the American people see no challenge from republicans, well then, the American people are logically going to assume that what nanny p said is the absolute God's honest truth and the republicans will be shaking their heads in November going "but, but, but, everyone said we were supposed to win?  what happened, what happened?"

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 10:01 AM (p302b)

174

But his election alone forced the trickfuck sleazyness.  So, still a point for him.  And like others have said, 50 to 66% of a RINO is better than 0% of a liberal.

Posted by: Dunkirk

Which was precisely the reason I put that fucking knowledge on the table.  Thank me.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at July 30, 2010 10:01 AM (IQBsP)

175 But the ME sisters have a conservative rating of < 50% firmly in the DIABLO range. IOW, they vote with the Dems more than the Repubs.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 10:02 AM (/jbAw)

176
Query: If the elections were held today, how many Senate seats would we gain?

It's look like, what, one, in AR?

Posted by: Boner McSteele at July 30, 2010 10:02 AM (uFokq)

177 http://www.moonbattery.com/
archives/2010/07/sailors-of-the.html


From Van Helsing at MoonBattery.com, “Our moonbat rulers didn’t finish making history after installing America’s first Affirmative Action president. Here’s what they’re doing to the Navy…” Diluting the "Sailor of the Year" award by dividing it between four recipients.

  Sailors of the Year

  “Wow, what a coincidence that in the overwhelmingly male Navy, the four most accomplished sailors are all women. What’s really surprising is that one of them looks Caucasian. Maybe she made up for her ethnic deficiencies by converting to Islam. … Political correctness has gone beyond turning awards into farces. They’ve become badges of condescension and shame. Since the actual accomplishments of these women are irrelevant, they will never be meaningfully acknowledged.”

The photo caption is not to be missed.

Posted by: Looking Glass at July 30, 2010 10:02 AM (8VsjU)

178 176 10 Kirk has stated that he would vote for Kagan to the SC if he were in the Senate now. Just sayin'.

What's wrong with that?

Posted by: Lindsey, I am NOT ghey, Graham at July 30, 2010 02:58 PM (2+9Yx)

Graham + marshmellow + packed fudge = Smore?

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at July 30, 2010 10:02 AM (YVZlY)

179

The new Scott Brown, now with 50% less socialism, and 0% transfat.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at July 30, 2010 02:53 PM (e8T35)

I see that his correspondence now says: Thanks for supporting future Democratic Senator Scott Brown.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 10:02 AM (r1h5M)

180 I join the upsurge in concern amongst punctuation marks. 

Posted by: !!!! at July 30, 2010 10:03 AM (IQBsP)

181 I don't know, I don't think he's gay, maybe he "acts" gay but I don't think he's gay cause if he was he would make a big deal of announcing it like barney did and then he would get all the accompanying perks.  So why wouldn't you want the accompanying perks and the ability to play the "gay card".   Besides most gays I know would not want him to be gay.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 10:05 AM (p302b)

182 Any of you who are on Facebook should hit go to Scott Brown's page. He explains (sometimes weakly, sometimes well) pretty much every vote he makes. Usually plenty of lively debate in the comments, too.

Posted by: lincolntf at July 30, 2010 10:05 AM (+O8yf)

183

Besides most gays I know would not want him to be gay.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 03:05 PM (p302b)

Wow.  That's really racist... or... something.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 10:06 AM (r1h5M)

184 Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 03:06 PM (r1h5M)
ahhahahah it's actually the truth...lol

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 10:07 AM (p302b)

185 with their last breath, they spit at thee; from Hell's heart, they stab at thee ... Kirk

I saw what you did there.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 30, 2010 10:08 AM (eNxMU)

186

Posted by: Looking Glass at July 30, 2010 03:02 PM (8VsjU)

One of my best buds won "Shore Sailor of the Year" several years ago.  It used to be a hell of a resume builder, as I understand.  He's a MCPO in Hawaii now, loving life.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 30, 2010 10:08 AM (5aa4z)

187

Query: If the elections were held today, how many Senate seats would we gain?

It's look like, what, one, in AR
?

Right now you have a Republican lock in Norht Dakota and in Arkansas. So, up 2. You have Republicans with significant leads (plus 6) in Indiana and Delaware. There is another 2. You have Republican leads (less than 6) in Colorado, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. So, another 3. You have Republican leads within the MOE in Illinois. That would leave you a pick up of 8. Republicans are defending in 5 states, with leads in New Hampshire, Kentucky, Missouri and Ohio. Florida is a crap shot (not even sure anyone knows how to poll that yet - the turnout model is tricky, depending on which Democrat gets nominated and what type of machine Charlie Tuna can put together). So, you have, just for hte sake of now, a net loss of 1. That puts you at plus 7. With toss ups in Nevada, Washington and California left.

Reclaiming the Senate is going to be tough and nearly everything has to break right. Most are predicting a net pick up of 7 for the GOP.

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 30, 2010 10:08 AM (OWjjx)

188 The photo caption is not to be missed.

Posted by: Looking Glass at July 30, 2010 03:02 PM (8VsjU)

Why do I get the feeling that MO picked them?

Posted by: Rat Patrol at July 30, 2010 10:09 AM (dQdrY)

189

Which was precisely the reason I put that fucking knowledge on the table.  Thank me.

I will thank you, but you must blow me first.

Posted by: Dunkirk at July 30, 2010 10:10 AM (kbHJ6)

190 Hannity opening with a Fox news poll saying people would back the republican candidate in their district.  The republicans are breaking too early.  Plenty of time for BO and Joe to turn that around like at the last minute through the MSM.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 10:11 AM (p302b)

191 courting the women.  the view, this navy thing, what's next.

BTW, according to megyn, rosie and sarah agree that it wasn't a smart idea for BO to go on the view.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 10:12 AM (p302b)

192 I am still comforting myself with the historical fact that the House has never changed hands without the Senate also changing hands.  Unless that ends up meaning that the House doesn't change hands this year, which would be bad.

Suddenly, I'm not comforted.

Posted by: @@@@ at July 30, 2010 10:15 AM (8/oOq)

193

This guy still can't be trusted to do taxes:

http://tinyurl.com/2ekwmmq

Lying POS, but of course we already knew that.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 10:15 AM (r1h5M)

194

The republicans are breaking too early.  Plenty of time for BO and Joe to turn that around like at the last minute through the MSM.

But, these polls help with fundraising. Sharon Angle was able to outraise Harry Reid in Nevada last quarter, The RCCC outraised the DCCC, Kirk has outraised Alexi, so forth, so forth. If people think the GOP will win, they start contributing. On that front, its good news. A sizeable GOP fundraising advantage over the summer will deflate Democrat expectations, depress turnout.

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 30, 2010 10:15 AM (OWjjx)

195

The republicans are breaking too early.  Plenty of time for BO and Joe to turn that around like at the last minute through the MSM.

But, these polls help with fundraising. Sharon Angle was able to outraise Harry Reid in Nevada last quarter, The RCCC outraised the DCCC, Kirk has outraised Alexi, so forth, so forth. If people think the GOP will win, they start contributing. On that front, its good news. A sizeable GOP fundraising advantage over the summer will deflate Democrat expectations, depress turnout.

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 30, 2010 10:15 AM (OWjjx)

196 This Grimm stuff in SI is just well, "grim".....I mean is McMahon upset that Grimm stole his donors?

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 10:17 AM (p302b)

197 It is all a numbers game, in the end.

Posted by: #### at July 30, 2010 10:18 AM (IQBsP)

198 Mallamutt is now fully qualified to be a cob-logger.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 30, 2010 10:18 AM (5aa4z)

199

Are you f--king synical yet?

http://tinyurl.com/2apqfn5

Repremand for Rangel

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 10:20 AM (r1h5M)

200

Mallamutt,

I've got to run so this will be my last take on this and then you can be spared my illogic. My point about the IL GOP over the last couple of decades was that the party has corrupted itself (mostly by acting like Dems) and destroyed the brand. They once were a counterweight to the cesspool in Cook County but they willingly chose to become a partner to it - a conscious political strategy by the party leadership under Thompson and G. Ryan. I'll give Edgar the benefit of the doubt and assume that the nonsense went on behind his back.

 

Posted by: SteveN at July 30, 2010 10:20 AM (7EV/g)

201 Mallamutt is now fully qualified to be a cob-logger.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz

 

I thought that cob-logging was illegal. Or at least corny?

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 30, 2010 10:20 AM (R2fpr)

202 oooo no wonder mr. mcmahon is a little cranky.  (hannity says he fired his campaign communications director over this)

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 10:22 AM (p302b)

203 I thought that cob-logging was illegal.

Only in 7 states.  Most just look the other way.

Posted by: @@@@ at July 30, 2010 10:23 AM (8/oOq)

204

I see that his correspondence now says: Thanks for supporting future Democratic Senator Scott Brown.

Ok, sure.. but you have to admit at the bottom where he sign's it "You're Comrade" and the little hammer and sickle logo below his signature is pretty damn cute.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at July 30, 2010 10:23 AM (e8T35)

205 Btw, grimm is a little hottie...

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 10:24 AM (p302b)

206 I thought that cob-logging was illegal.

Only in 7 states.  Most just look the other way.

Posted by: @@@@

I tried it once. But it made my voice husky.

Posted by: Blue Hen at July 30, 2010 10:25 AM (R2fpr)

207 I'm sick of hearing about spoiled Chelsea Clinton's royal wedding.  She could feed a small nation with the money being spent and instead she is having a wedding more royal than the royals.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 10:26 AM (p302b)

208

Posted by: CDR M at July 30, 2010 03:24 PM (5I8G0)

From the Politico article:

Neither party really likes the provision of the health law at issue, which would require businesses to file 1099 tax forms for all transactions with vendors that cumulatively total over $600.

Due for implementation in 2012, the 1099 provision would raise $19 billion over 10 years to pay for the health care overhaul.

Just how in the ever loving fuck is a provision that forces you to spend the month of January filling out 1099s going to raise $19B?  Postage sales?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 30, 2010 10:27 AM (5aa4z)

209 Just how in the ever loving fuck is a provision that forces you to spend the month of January filling out 1099s going to raise $19B?

That's why they're the "reality based community" I guess.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 30, 2010 10:30 AM (p05LM)

210 Neither party really likes the provision of the health law at issue

Whoa, there, Politico!  In case you forgot, the Democrats rammed it down our throats with ZERO Republican votes.  Even the squishes didn't get on board this train.

The Democrats own this.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 30, 2010 10:31 AM (PDN1L)

211 I'm sick of hearing about spoiled Chelsea Clinton's royal wedding.

Bitch do be ugly.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 30, 2010 10:31 AM (5aa4z)

212 I don't believe the polls in the Kirk-Giannoulias race.

It's all going to be about turnout.   Lazy-ass libtards in Chicago are the ones answering for Giannoulias on these polls.. but will they get their asses up and vote?  That is the question.

and.. Kirk is holding back.,.. as he should.. his ads really dig at Alexi, but they aren't running that often.  Current ad:

"Alexi Giannoulias didn't pay one cent in taxes last year.  He took the bank's loss as a personal loss and skated on $7 million in taxes."

That kinda shit is what Kirk will hit him with hard and heavy come the fall..  it's just too early.

Posted by: ChiTown Jerry at July 30, 2010 10:31 AM (f9c2L)

213
Very nice update and breakdown, Mutt.

My brain cell thanks you.

Posted by: Boner McSteele at July 30, 2010 10:31 AM (uFokq)

214 Maybe I just need to stop reading these sites.  Everyone else isn't reading them and they are having a wonderful summer, lots of fun, living in their little bubbles.  On the other hand, even when you are having fun, if you read these websites, you have all that stuff in the back of your mind so you can't truly abandon yourself to fun....and it's all Beck's fault...

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 10:33 AM (p302b)

215

I'm sick of hearing about spoiled Chelsea Clinton's royal wedding.

Best one I've heard so far, the FAA has  declared the space above the wedding to be a no fly zone.  Wow.. those Clinton's, their so down to earth arent' they?  Gosh, just your regular joe's next door that family...

ROTFLMAO...

 

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at July 30, 2010 10:33 AM (e8T35)

216 WOOF! WOOF! WWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at July 30, 2010 10:33 AM (OlN4e)

217 O/T:  I was just reminded that one of the ads in the 'vintage ads' slideshow on Fox News' website is a ringer.

I wonder how many people here would recognize the ad and know the reference...

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at July 30, 2010 10:34 AM (IkEhE)

218 Bitch do be ugly. _____________ I'd hit it. From behind, of course. In the dark.

Posted by: MJ at July 30, 2010 10:35 AM (BKOsZ)

219 Posted by: CDR M at July 30, 2010 03:31 PM (5I8G0)

It seems that they think something will occur that will cause everyone to clamor for gold or precious metals or something tangible and then they will have their windfall.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 10:35 AM (p302b)

220 Just how in the ever loving fuck is a provision that forces you to spend the month of January filling out 1099s going to raise $19B?  Postage sales?

Its one of those stupid imaginary numbers that the Obamanites invented out of thin air and a magic pull from their assholes and dutifully reported by their fellow fellators in the MFM.

The thing is supposed to eliminate tax cheats through some kind of reporting osmosis. How the idiots can get 19B out of that is anybody's guess.

BTW, that 19B was one of the things that was supposed to make the bill "revenue neutral" or reduce the deficit.

As for turnovers in the Senate and House I am still going with my original 5 R pickups in the Senate, > 40 in the House.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 10:36 AM (/jbAw)

221

On the other hand, even when you are having fun, if you read these websites, you have all that stuff in the back of your mind so you can't truly abandon yourself to fun....and it's all Beck's fault...

That doesn't bother me so much, it's this damn Goldline thing.  There I am, sitting in my car, driving home from work, and GB's show hits the air.  I'm riding along on the interstate, not a care in the world, then he starts talking about Goldline.

It's hypnotizing.  I can't help myself.  I can't concentrate.  Suddenly I realize I must buy gold now!  I cannot resist!  I am helpless - I must get a gold fix, and it must be purchased from Goldline!  There is no escape!

I've had two near misses already from zoning out and being unable to concentrate on driving.  Damn that Glenn Beck - and his evil mind control powers!

Rotfl..

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at July 30, 2010 10:37 AM (e8T35)

222 I look like my Mom. That's why I'm homely as hammered sin!

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at July 30, 2010 10:37 AM (OlN4e)

223

218 Just how in the ever loving fuck is a provision that forces you to spend the month of January filling out 1099s going to raise $19B?  Postage sales?

<Herr - I have a feeling the 10,000 plus new IRS agents coming on board are going to be quota driven.  Just a feeling.   

Posted by: Journolist at July 30, 2010 10:37 AM (8EEyy)

224 217

It takes 3 million dollars worth of distractions to prevent people from remembering what she looked like on her wedding day.

"...Hmmm, it's blurring together, but I remember eating a gold-leaf encrusted truffle and then seeing someone who looked like Ron Howard with long hair walk by. After that it's all a fog of Wagyu and Crystal..."

Posted by: lincolntf at July 30, 2010 10:37 AM (+O8yf)

225

Ok, sure.. but you have to admit at the bottom where he sign's it "You're Comrade" and the little hammer and sickle logo below his signature is pretty damn cute.

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at July 30, 2010 03:23 PM (e8T35)

Definitely has a flare for the artistic, that one.

 

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 10:38 AM (r1h5M)

226 I really don't think it necessary for my Fiance to be carrying two bags and a flag in his wedding tux pocket.

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at July 30, 2010 10:42 AM (OlN4e)

227 Lazy-ass libtards in Chicago are the ones answering for Giannoulias on these polls.. but will they get their asses up and vote?  That is the question.

That's what the whole "Tea Party is Racist" thing was supposed to do.  It was supposed to get out the vote, but it was also supposed to be a bit under the table.  Breitbart (inadvertently) put it into the limelight and the long-term effect was to keep that strategy from going any further.

Posted by: AmishDude at July 30, 2010 10:42 AM (PDN1L)

228

I think the 1099 was supposed to "scare" people who normally do business under the table to honestly file 1099's in the fear that they may be audited and will be found that they did do business with people for over $600 bucks.  It just hit me, won't this mean that John's and Hooker's will have to share more than cash to comply with this?

not if you pay the prostitute with a personal check like Bob Beckel did. That way there is a paper trail.

Posted by: Ben at July 30, 2010 10:43 AM (wuv1c)

229

Most other headlines now repeating the "Reprimand for Rangel" headline.

Dude lives a gifted effing life, not a damned doubt about it.

Went from calls to resign this morning to reprimand. 

Crumbling!  That's what it is. Crumbling. 

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 10:43 AM (r1h5M)

230 Mom got me a long handled milk bucket net for my wedding!

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at July 30, 2010 10:44 AM (OlN4e)

231 #167, Vic

Dirkson famous for?  Bueller?

http://tinyurl.com/47pvu


Posted by: Kemp at July 30, 2010 10:44 AM (2+9Yx)

232 The $600.00 provision is what makes it such a POS. And it is not even indexed! I have some friends who run a small restaurant downtown.

They get several deliveries a week in foodstuffs etc. Not a single delivery is less than $600.00. In fact all of them are a lot more. That is one SMALL restaurant with a few tables and a kitchen which isn't any bigger than mine at home.

Just one food deliveries alone they will have at least 3 1099's a week!  Imagine a large restaurant or some other large "small business". And the truth of the matter is that it will not raise more than a few thousand dollars in funds they wouldn't have got anyway.

Its the kind of shit you get from grossly incompetent barkies elected with an agenda.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 10:45 AM (/jbAw)

233 I love a blog that's not all cluttered with posts and shit.

Posted by: Not at the table Carlos at July 30, 2010 10:45 AM (xO+6C)

234

242 not if you pay the prostitute with a personal check like Bob Beckel did. That way there is a paper trail.

LOL

Posted by: Journolist at July 30, 2010 10:45 AM (8EEyy)

235 I'm gonna have my man's teeth pulled. I don't want any unfortunate incidents when he wakes up in the morning if I happen to be asleep on his arm....

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at July 30, 2010 10:46 AM (OlN4e)

236 Yeah, that "billion here.." quote is a myth.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 10:46 AM (/jbAw)

237 I wouldn't care what they spent on Chelsea's wedding.As long as 1/they paid for it,since they can certainly afford it.2/Hillary stopped begging for donations to retire her campaign expenditures.

Posted by: steevy at July 30, 2010 10:47 AM (truZS)

238 245:  Notice no representation on nature of said professional...

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at July 30, 2010 10:47 AM (IkEhE)

239 People say you get around the $600 dollar rule by paying in cash or writing a series of small checks (read that on a lib site)

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 10:48 AM (p302b)

240 sock off

Posted by: maddogg at July 30, 2010 10:49 AM (OlN4e)

241 People say you get around the $600 dollar rule by paying in cash or writing a series of small checks (read that on a lib site)

Yeah, the libs say just don't follow the law. That's par for the course. Why not get rid of the law, or better yet, never pass it in the first place.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 10:49 AM (/jbAw)

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 10:50 AM (p302b)

243 Isn't Chelsea's boy a jooo? 

So they going to have a joo wedding or a Baptist wedding? 

Or does anyone really give a shit?  Let's just hope they don't breed.

Posted by: Kemp at July 30, 2010 10:50 AM (2+9Yx)

244 I wonder if there is an exemption for congress? Probably is.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 10:50 AM (/jbAw)

245

People say you get around the $600 dollar rule by paying in cash or writing a series of small checks (read that on a lib site)

it's not 600 per, its 600 total. So if you wrote 6 checks for 100 dollars, you would qualify.

Also, sure you can pay in cash, but the business has to account for how they got that money.

Posted by: Ben at July 30, 2010 10:50 AM (wuv1c)

246 Now here is a guy with a brass set, a brass set.

Yep.  The matched set of cerebrum and cerebellum.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 30, 2010 10:52 AM (5aa4z)

247
Just one food deliveries alone they will have at least 3 1099's a week!  Imagine a large restaurant or some other large "small business". And the truth of the matter is that it will not raise more than a few thousand dollars in funds they wouldn't have got anyway.

Its the kind of shit you get from grossly incompetent barkies elected with an agenda.
Posted by: Vic

-------------

Not how I understand it, Vic.  It's an annual thing.  Anyone you do business with in the course of a year in an amount annually over $600 must be reported.

Your friends in the restaurant biz would need to do a 1099 for each person/biz they purchase $600 or more in goods or services from. 


Posted by: ChiTown Jerry at July 30, 2010 10:52 AM (f9c2L)

248

Best one I've heard so far, the FAA has  declared the space above the wedding to be a no fly zone. 

With so much crap concentrated in one small area, they'll have a hell of a time keeping all the flies away.

Posted by: Cicero at July 30, 2010 10:52 AM (QKKT0)

249 So they going to have a joo wedding or a Baptist wedding? 

It's to be combined.  They're going to jump over a pew straight onto the glass.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 30, 2010 10:53 AM (5aa4z)

250 Posted by: Ben at July 30, 2010 03:50 PM (wuv1c)

It is mind boggling to see them busily saying "how to get around the law"....figuring the law is only there for anyone registered republican.  A lot of folks are going to change to independent so they can't come up on the printout.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 10:53 AM (p302b)

251 I suspect that people will try to figure ways to reduce the number of transactions. In the example of the restaurant above they would reduce deliveries to maybe one every two weeks.

Sure the food is no longer fresh, the salad is wilted, and the service sucks but WTF, jugears gets his frigging 1099.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 10:54 AM (/jbAw)

252 Also, sure you can pay in cash, but the business has to account for how they got that money.

What money?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz's sock drawer at July 30, 2010 10:54 AM (5aa4z)

253 257 Now here is a guy with a brass set, a brass set.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 03:50 PM (p302b)

The soundtrack to the DVD?

William Tell Overture, naturally.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 10:54 AM (r1h5M)

254 Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 30, 2010 03:53 PM (5aa4z)

rumor has it that she had a very difficult time finding a "good jewish caterer" and rumor also has it that she is following the Ivanka Trump model.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 10:54 AM (p302b)

255 Not how I understand it, Vic.  It's an annual thing.  Anyone you do business with in the course of a year in an amount annually over $600 must be reported.

Not what I understand. What I read was every transaction over $600.00 modeled after the law that currently requires banks to report every transaction over 10K.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 10:55 AM (/jbAw)

256 Yep, Marc be a Joo.  So Bill, the Baptist, will get to go to Bar Mitzvahs?

How interesting.

http://tinyurl.com/33576oq

Posted by: Kemp at July 30, 2010 10:55 AM (2+9Yx)

257

Wow...you morons have been chewing on this thread since 1:00!!

Did Ace start another epic novel?

Posted by: dananjcon at July 30, 2010 10:55 AM (pr+up)

258 rumor has it that she had a very difficult time finding a "good jewish caterer"

It's soup with dough in it and a brisket.  How can you fuck that up?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz's sock drawer at July 30, 2010 10:56 AM (5aa4z)

259

Now here is a guy with a brass set, a brass set.

If Patches Kennedy was selling a DVD of his greatest moments in Congress, I'd buy the sucker.  I love his speech about Framblamastan.

Posted by: Cicero at July 30, 2010 10:57 AM (QKKT0)

260 They were gonna have a horse drawn carriage, but Chelsea didn't want to be overshadowed.

Posted by: lincolntf at July 30, 2010 10:57 AM (+O8yf)

261 I just got a letter from Sharon Angle that included a pink slip for Harry Reid for me to sign, and return with cash. Anyone else getting these?

Posted by: Not at the table Carlos at July 30, 2010 10:57 AM (xO+6C)

262 Does that mean Hillary is gonna get somma that JOOOOO money when she runs for president?

Posted by: Truman North at July 30, 2010 10:59 AM (e8YaH)

263 Are you f--king synical yet?

Nah.  I just can't make up my mind between Wisconsin, Missouri and ECLA.

I need more information.

I think that I'm a pretty fair minded person and would appreciate it if they would all stop disagreeing about things that I'd rather not spend two seconds of thought on in the first place.






Posted by: "Moderate" Protestant in a Frank Luntz focus group at July 30, 2010 10:59 AM (aVzyR)

264 272

Wow...you morons have been chewing on this thread since 1:00!!

Did Ace start another epic novel?


It's Friday, we won't see Ace till 10:00 at the earliest, if we see him at all.

Ewoks party in NYC on the weekends. 

Maybe he going to "The Wedding"?


Posted by: Kemp at July 30, 2010 10:59 AM (2+9Yx)

265 #262  Not how I understand it, Vic.  It's an annual thing.  Anyone you do business with in the course of a year in an amount annually over $600 must be reported.

Your friends in the restaurant biz would need to do a 1099 for each person/biz they purchase $600 or more in goods or services from.

#271  Not what I understand. What I read was every transaction over $600.00 modeled after the law that currently requires banks to report every transaction over 10K.

Regardless, it's still more bureaucratic nonsense. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at July 30, 2010 10:59 AM (9hSKh)

266 272

Wow...you morons have been chewing on this thread since 1:00!!

Did Ace start another epic novel?

Posted by: dananjcon at July 30, 2010 03:55 PM (pr+up)

We're christening it the GOAT - great over afternoon thread.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 10:59 AM (r1h5M)

267 I heard Ace is helping to write the nuptials.

Posted by: Not at the table Carlos at July 30, 2010 11:00 AM (xO+6C)

268 Are you f--king synical yet?

Nah.  I just can't make up my mind between Wisconsin, Missouri and ECLA.

That's "cynodal".

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 30, 2010 11:00 AM (5aa4z)

269 245 Beckel nailed a prostitute?

Posted by: CDR M at July 30, 2010 03:44 PM (5I8G0)

No, actually he steam rolled her. Gave her a dutch oven then bounced the check.

 

 

Posted by: dananjcon at July 30, 2010 11:00 AM (pr+up)

270 I heard Ace is helping to write the nuptials.

"So I reached over and squeezed her droopy old senator boob, then grabbed a handful of cake and ran out the door as she yelled for security."

Posted by: Ace--After Action Report at July 30, 2010 11:02 AM (5aa4z)

271 284 245 Beckel nailed a prostitute?

Posted by: CDR M at July 30, 2010 03:44 PM (5I8G0)

No, actually he steam rolled her. Gave her a dutch oven then bounced the check.

That's not funny



Posted by: The girl with the Cleveland steamer at July 30, 2010 11:02 AM (2+9Yx)

272 We're getting restless.

Posted by: The Natives at July 30, 2010 11:02 AM (xO+6C)

273 The wedding will be all fun and games until Obama gets drunk and orders the DoD to nuke Guam.  Hank Johnson will be devastated.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 30, 2010 11:03 AM (p05LM)

274

That's not funny


Word.

Posted by: Rachel Corrie at July 30, 2010 11:03 AM (QKKT0)

275 rumor has it she converted.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 11:03 AM (p302b)

276 rumor has it she converted.

She's female now?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 30, 2010 11:04 AM (5aa4z)

277 She converted to human.

Posted by: Not at the table Carlos at July 30, 2010 11:05 AM (xO+6C)

278 Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 30, 2010 04:04 PM (5aa4z)

last i heard she's bill/hills little girl.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 11:05 AM (p302b)

279 OK, ChiTown I went to the IRS instructions themselves instead of relying on newspaper articles. It appears you are right, however the instructions are not real clear.

Still, over the course of a year how many transactions to different people will you have that are over $600.00?  In the aforementioned business they probably pay more than that for the groundskeeper during the summer.

Its just more BS and as I said it is not indexed. Given the Obamanite inflation around the corner $600 will be the normal payment for a doorman to park a car.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 11:06 AM (/jbAw)

280 290 rumor has it she converted.

I would not be surprised.  Most Joo families do not approve of interfaith marriages. 

It will help fund raising that's for sure!

Posted by: Kemp at July 30, 2010 11:06 AM (2+9Yx)

281 I can only imagine the ex-sleazebag-in-Chief looking lovingly at Hillary as the marriage vows are read. And I can imagine the new Mr. Chelsea Clinton thinking about how easy it's gonna be to cheat on his new wife now that he can say he's "golfing" with Bill.

Posted by: lincolntf at July 30, 2010 11:06 AM (+O8yf)

282 Afternoon, peeps.  Did Ace and the cob loggers all get drunk early today?  This thread seems.....tired.

Teh Fred is on Fox.  He has a fuzzy face.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2010 11:06 AM (UOM48)

283 That's "cynodal".

She turned me into a newt!

Posted by: "Moderate" Protestant in a Frank Luntz focus group at July 30, 2010 11:06 AM (aVzyR)

284 An uber lib explained it to me like this:  "well her dad jsut wasn't the first black president, he was the first jewish president too, so it all makes sense, do you get it now, please get it, I'm tired of having to explain this easy stuff to you, reading that conservative blog is rotting your brain you know"

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 11:07 AM (p302b)

285 They're getting married on the Sabbath?  Ain't that like unKosher?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 30, 2010 11:07 AM (5aa4z)

286

This thread, still??

Eh, I guess it's an open thread.

Oh here's the future. And we're of course fucked.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at July 30, 2010 11:08 AM (pLTLS)

287

Where's Walter? We need a punching bag to relieve this friday afternoon energy...and a beer.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at July 30, 2010 11:09 AM (pr+up)

288 This thread seems.....tired.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2010 04:06 PM (UOM4

This thread is deader than Andi Sullivan's interest in women.

Posted by: Cicero at July 30, 2010 11:09 AM (QKKT0)

289 Wonder if Tony Weiner and his muzzie bride are invited to The Wedding. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2010 11:09 AM (UOM48)

290 Not Snooki.

Posted by: Not at the table Carlos at July 30, 2010 11:10 AM (xO+6C)

291 Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2010 04:09 PM (UOM4
She is hillary's personal assistant and of course they are.  hill/bill were at their wedding.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 11:11 AM (p302b)

292

Wonder if Tony Weiner and his muzzie bride are invited to The Wedding. 

Of course! And his recent bride isn't too worried about the menu. She's got her old flame Hilly taking care of things IYKWIM.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at July 30, 2010 11:11 AM (pLTLS)

293 #300

Yeah it is, but Clinton got a waiver from God.

http://tinyurl.com/26kldzq

Posted by: Kemp at July 30, 2010 11:11 AM (2+9Yx)

294 I don't know but doesn't just being a Clinton qualify Chelsea as some sort of super jew or something in some circles?

His parents probably think that conversion would be redundant or something.

Posted by: Deety at July 30, 2010 11:11 AM (aVzyR)

295 How I wish we'd hear that Bubba got frisky with a bridesmaid or four.  

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2010 11:12 AM (UOM48)

296 "Disorderly conduct" is the civilian equivalent of the "general article". IOW, we don't like what you did but we can't find anything else to charge you with so this will do.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 11:12 AM (/jbAw)

297

Yes, Snookie.

And the thought of anyone doing a body shot off of her is repulsive.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at July 30, 2010 11:12 AM (pLTLS)

298 Herr, it's inappropriate, but the marriage is legally binding nevertheless.

Posted by: willow at July 30, 2010 11:12 AM (SbsTp)

299 301

This thread, still??

Eh, I guess it's an open thread.

Oh here's the future. And we're of course fucked.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at July 30, 2010 04:08 PM (pLTLS

I geues the ratings for the second season fiorst episode were off.

yeeesh. face...palm.

 

 

Posted by: dananjcon at July 30, 2010 11:12 AM (pr+up)

300

This is Fucking INSANE

Nidal Hassan, the guy who killed all those soldiers in Texas, is STILL receiving a monthly paycheck from the army

 

The good news?

"According to his civilian attorney John Galligan , Bank of America notified Hasan last month that it was closing his account and no area bank so far has agreed to open an account for the Army psychiatrist. Military regulations require soldiers to be paid through direct deposit, making a bank account indispensable.

“I think it’s just another example of the prejudice that he’s been exposed to,” Galligan said. “It’s money that he’s entitled to, that he has a right to.”"

Posted by: Ben at July 30, 2010 11:12 AM (wuv1c)

301 300 They're getting married on the Sabbath?  Ain't that like unKosher?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 30, 2010 04:07 PM (5aa4z)

Yep

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 11:12 AM (r1h5M)

302 Still, over the course of a year how many transactions to different people will you have that are over $600.00?  In the aforementioned business they probably pay more than that for the groundskeeper during the summer.

Its just more BS and as I said it is not indexed. Given the Obamanite inflation around the corner $600 will be the normal payment for a doorman to park a car.
Posted by: Vic

-----------

Yes, it is still onerous.. currently businesses do not have to report every business to business expenditure.. it's ridiculous! 

If it goes through, it will sure sell a lot of copies of QuickBooks though!

What I don't understand is why the Republicans are fighting the repeal of this!

http://tli.tl/cvTCop


Posted by: ChiTown Jerry at July 30, 2010 11:13 AM (f9c2L)

303 Snookie?  Never heard of her.

Posted by: King Barry, Celebutard at July 30, 2010 11:13 AM (UOM48)

304 hannity has king on.....king said he went against the republicans for the law.......but you guys are saying there was bad stuff added to the law....so what is the truth.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 11:13 AM (p302b)

305 311 I don't know but doesn't just being a Clinton qualify Chelsea as some sort of super jew or something in some circles?

Well, he was the first Black President, so I guess she's really a "Black Jew"?

Posted by: Kemp at July 30, 2010 11:14 AM (2+9Yx)

306 Posted by: Ben at July 30, 2010 04:12 PM (wuv1c)

Well it is shitty but they can't cut him off until they court martial him. So the damn Army needs to get off their ass. They should have a damn open and shut case for multiple murder and the death penalty.

So why are they dragging their ass?

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 11:14 AM (/jbAw)

307

Kirk will go back to his supprt of crap and tax if and when elected...the only reason he switched was because of all the shit he got from the racist fucking NASCAR retard Tea Partyers

He'll be a bigger disappointment than Scott Brown

Posted by: beedubya at July 30, 2010 11:15 AM (AnTyA)

308 Well, he was the first Black President, so I guess she's really a "Black Jew"?

Posted by: Kemp at July 30, 2010 04:14 PM (2+9Yx)

a female sammy davis, jr?

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 11:15 AM (p302b)

309 Herr, it's inappropriate, but the marriage is legally binding nevertheless.

I just think it's funny that Chelsea Ben-BJ's first official act as a Jew is to piss on the Sabbath.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 30, 2010 11:15 AM (5aa4z)

310

a female sammy davis, jr?

More like the Queen of Sheba.

Posted by: Cicero at July 30, 2010 11:16 AM (QKKT0)

311 >>And the thought of anyone doing a body shot off of her is repulsive.


Well it would be a double, so there's that.

Posted by: Not at the table Carlos at July 30, 2010 11:17 AM (xO+6C)

312 not if the wedding is after sundown.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 11:18 AM (p302b)

313 a female sammy davis, jr?

Nay, she got both eyes, even if they are crossed.

Posted by: Kemp at July 30, 2010 11:18 AM (2+9Yx)

314 I just think it's funny that Chelsea Ben-BJ's first official act as a Jew is to piss on the Sabbath.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 30, 2010 04:15 PM (5aa4z)

'Gotta start somewhere, I'm sure it will get MUCH worse. Then again, who knows, she could invent Kosher bacon.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 11:18 AM (oIp16)

315 What I don't understand is why the Republicans are fighting the repeal of this!

Look who the "fix" was offered by; Karl Kommie Levin. They disagree with the "offset" which that liberal Dem PR rag (the Hill) doesn't mention what it is.

What Levin wants is probably a new 19B tax somewhere else to "offset" the phony BS 19B claim on the 1099 provision.

I object as well.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 11:18 AM (/jbAw)

316 Snookie was on Fox & Friends one morning pushing a "weight-loss cookie" with the doctor who invented them. 

Heh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2010 11:19 AM (UOM48)

317 I think it's Snooki's protein intake that's keeping the weight on.

Posted by: Not at the table Carlos at July 30, 2010 11:20 AM (xO+6C)

318 Ahh.. ok.. I guess I understand..

That's 19B over ten years though.. a drop in the freakin' bucket!  Especially considering it will likely cost the IRS $10 Billion extra per year just to keep up with the added paperwork!

Posted by: ChiTown Jerry at July 30, 2010 11:21 AM (f9c2L)

319 I note an article on Drudge that they are ready to settle the ethics case of Maxine "let nationalize everything" Waters as well now.

Looks like they want to close all the ethics cases against Dems before the Repubs take over.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 11:22 AM (/jbAw)

320

I guess she's really a "Black Jew"?

She's a double mongrel, Blewish.

Posted by: Toonces de la Ears at July 30, 2010 11:23 AM (aOKEC)

321 O/T:  Breitbart wouldn't mind a private discussion with Sherrod over the whole contretemps.

I know in my mind how it would go.  Only question is who gets the red lightsaber...

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at July 30, 2010 11:24 AM (IkEhE)

322 Hannity just had Weiner on, when Sean Hannity makes you look like a dumbass, you've got a problem.

Posted by: Dunkirk at July 30, 2010 11:25 AM (kbHJ6)

323 I don't know whose voice would be more grating, Hannity's or Weiner-boy's.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2010 11:26 AM (UOM48)

324 A black tie affair, after sundown.

weiner just got the better of sean demanding why he didn't read the bill in preparation for the interview.  He truly owned hannity.

something about this bill doesn't smell right.
why would the dems want to go on record as screwing the cops and firemen in NYC who were there on 9/11?

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 11:26 AM (p302b)

325 FTR, tony the weiner is brash and grating.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 11:28 AM (p302b)

326 Interesting article which also implies the USGC is underfunded: http://tinyurl.com/28dfh2p

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at July 30, 2010 11:28 AM (HQSQk)

327 55% is still better than 0%

5% is better than 0%

And so will the Senate majority

Posted by: ChicagoJedi at July 30, 2010 01:40 PM (WZFkG)


Um, you understand that 5% is someone like Reid? So what's the point of a Republican who votes like a Democrat? Oh....

Posted by: KG at July 30, 2010 11:28 AM (S8TF5)

328 OK NJ Morons which one of you did this?

http://tinyurl.com/2fm3djw

NJ man gets jail for Phillies game vomit-assault

PHILADELPHIA — A 21-year-old man who intentionally vomited on a spectator and his 11-year-old daughter at a Philadelphia Phillies game was sentenced Friday to up to three months in jail and community service, which the judge suggested be fulfilled by cleaning ballpark toilets and trash.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 11:28 AM (/jbAw)

329 334 I think it's Snooki's protein intake that's keeping the weight on.

Posted by: Not at the table Carlos at July 30, 2010 04:20 PM (xO+6C)

In doing some quick calculations with an online recipe converter, a BMI chart, some basic assumtions and referencing of the USDA healthy foods website, it appears that Snookie would have to be routinely consuming over 6.5 cups a day, one table spoon at a time, to maintain her current weight.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 11:29 AM (oIp16)

330 why would the dems want to go on record as screwing the cops and firemen in NYC who were there on 9/11?

Owning the media means never having to say you're sorry.  MSNBC's gearing up the narrative as "the Republicans hate the victims of 9/11".

Posted by: Ian S. at July 30, 2010 11:29 AM (p05LM)

331 The 911 bill is superflouous-- Obamacare already "gives" them healthcare; and an amendment attached to it provides for amnesty for a ton of crimmigrants.

Posted by: Truman North at July 30, 2010 11:29 AM (e8YaH)

332 LOL, can you imagine cleaning the toilets at a NJ ballpark?

Even illegals want do that.

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 11:30 AM (/jbAw)

333 Good grief, Vic.  I nearly threw up on my keyboard just reading that.  Blearg...

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2010 11:30 AM (UOM48)

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 30, 2010 11:30 AM (bw+Qn)

335 Guy goes to jail for puking on a chick once, but Charlie Rangel gets nothing for shitting on us all for 40 years?

Posted by: gator at July 30, 2010 11:32 AM (aOKEC)

336 I wonder how much of the security $$ is for guards to keep Bubba away from the bridesmaids

Posted by: beedubya at July 30, 2010 11:32 AM (AnTyA)

337

Let's liven this place up with a little gratuitous violence, shall we?  Uuuhhhooohhhaaa.

You may wish to avert your eyes as this tiger and bear battle to the death!

http://tinyurl.com/2c7rl6v

You were warned!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 30, 2010 11:32 AM (r1h5M)

338

I have a dream...


.....of a new thread!

Posted by: IreneMLKIrene Jr. at July 30, 2010 11:32 AM (JNqU9)

339 341 A black tie affair, after sundown.

weiner just got the better of sean demanding why he didn't read the bill in preparation for the interview.  He truly owned hannity.

something about this bill doesn't smell right.
why would the dems want to go on record as screwing the cops and firemen in NYC who were there on 9/11?

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 04:26 PM (p302b)

Seriously?  Sean asked Weiner to read a bill before he votes and Weiner just kept bitching about Sean not reading it.  He sounded like a child crying because the bullies took his bike.

Posted by: Dunkirk at July 30, 2010 11:33 AM (kbHJ6)

340 Come on.  Check out teh Fred.  Stroke me, baby.  A'm an artiste.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 30, 2010 11:33 AM (bw+Qn)

341 Posted by: beedubya at July 30, 2010 04:32 PM (AnTyA)

one of the bridesmaids, if not the bridesmaid, is rumored to be her gay male best friend.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 11:33 AM (p302b)

342 OT: Fun story >
Aluminium antics: Professor returns from holiday to find mischievous students had coated his entire office in kitchen foil....It's apparently a tradition of theirs. The students say it took them 1wk & 10 200ft rolls of foil. Great pics.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at July 30, 2010 11:34 AM (HQSQk)

343 357 Come on.  Check out teh Fred.  Stroke me, baby.  A'm an artiste.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 30, 2010 04:33 PM (bw+Qn)

You misspelled "Phred".

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 30, 2010 11:34 AM (oIp16)

344

FTR, tony the weiner is brash and grating

i think he and john stewart were roommates in college, so they are butt buddies.

Posted by: Ben at July 30, 2010 11:35 AM (wuv1c)

345 Teh Fred has a goatee now.  D'oh used to have one, until a friend of ours called it a "prison pussy" -- and he shaved it off in record time.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2010 11:35 AM (UOM48)

346 Posted by: Dunkirk at July 30, 2010 04:33 PM (kbHJ6)

you are looking at that through the prism of a normal person....i was talking in a chat room with a bunch of libs about what to do tonight and they wanted to hear weiner......they saw it that hannity was owned....it's all about perception...
and kind didn't look so good either since tony the weiner has been trained in the ram style of politics

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 11:35 AM (p302b)

347 Guy goes to jail for puking on a chick once, but Charlie Rangel gets nothing for shitting on us all for 40 years?

Democrat justice!

Posted by: Vic at July 30, 2010 11:35 AM (/jbAw)

348

Snookies Cookies-thick, moist & chewy.

 

 

Posted by: dananjcon at July 30, 2010 11:35 AM (pr+up)

349

Snookie was on Fox & Friends one morning pushing a "weight-loss cookie" with the doctor who invented them. 

Heh.

of the Ookie Brand Cookie?

Posted by: Ben at July 30, 2010 11:36 AM (wuv1c)

350 What are the chances that just seconds before Chelsea says "I do", the groom rips off his shirt, jumps up on the altar, does a touchdown dance, and yells "Suck it, suckas!" as a bunch of his old frat buddies rush the building to witness him winning a ten-year old bet.

Posted by: lincolntf at July 30, 2010 11:36 AM (+O8yf)

351 Posted by: Ben at July 30, 2010 04:35 PM (wuv1c)

John stewart seems like a mellow fellow....weiner seems like the type that would toss your toothpaste out of the window if you left it uncapped.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 11:37 AM (p302b)

352 I just hope that Chelsea and her husband have as marriage that is as long and loving as her parents.

Posted by: Ben at July 30, 2010 11:37 AM (wuv1c)

353 The Israeli defense minister is on Cavuto.  He sounds French....with a lisp.  Weird.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 30, 2010 11:38 AM (UOM48)

354 I've never seen that show with Snookie and, what's that guys name, The Imbroglio.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 30, 2010 11:38 AM (bw+Qn)

355 #355

Bar opens in 22 minutes, Ace to be seen soon there after

Posted by: Kemp at July 30, 2010 11:38 AM (2+9Yx)

356 Posted by: Ben at July 30, 2010 04:37 PM (wuv1c)

Ben, haven't you seen the enquirer article...that is exactly what she is worried about.  Poor chelsea is having panic attacks and therapy and cold sweats...

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 11:39 AM (p302b)

357 I hope someone farts and Chelsie's wedding, drinks too much, and falls on the wedding cake, pulling the tent down in the process.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 30, 2010 11:40 AM (bw+Qn)

358 Did Ace get his fill in the blank story written?

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 30, 2010 11:41 AM (bw+Qn)

359 You mean 2 decades of the hard right and the moderate fighting each other has worked...not too well.


Um what? WTF is the "hard" right anyway? Us? Sorry, but that is an idiotic statement. The problem we have had is that the lefties in the Republican party have been in control, not because of some supposed "hard right" wing of the party.

Posted by: KG at July 30, 2010 11:41 AM (S8TF5)

360 I just hope that Chelsea and her husband have as marriage that is as long and loving as her parents.

Posted by: Ben at July 30, 2010 04:37 PM (wuv1c)

Thread Winner………..maybe, at the rate the new post are going up………

WEEKEND WINNER!

 

Posted by: Mallamutt at July 30, 2010 11:42 AM (OWjjx)

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 11:42 AM (p302b)

362

I didn't know what Snookie was until I watched a news report about my President going on "The View" to talk about it.

Smartest man alive, much like Hillary was.

Posted by: gator at July 30, 2010 11:42 AM (aOKEC)

363 I can see Bill trying to look this schlub in the eye and give him the "...you better be good to her..." speech while his doormat of a wife glares at the hot waitresses and swills Chardonnay in the background.

Posted by: lincolntf at July 30, 2010 11:43 AM (+O8yf)

Posted by: Kemp at July 30, 2010 11:44 AM (2+9Yx)

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 30, 2010 11:45 AM (bw+Qn)

366 You have to read some of the comments on the news sites.  People actually believe that Chelsea will be president someday and that tony the weiner will be president too and they are excited about this, very excited.

Posted by: ???? at July 30, 2010 11:48 AM (p302b)

367 388 Any BSG fans here?

Posted by: CDR M at July 30, 2010 04:45 PM (5I8G0)

Big Sweat Gnads??

 

Posted by: dananjcon at July 30, 2010 11:49 AM (pr+up)

368 Uh-uh.  No BSG until someone admits they know what a spindizzy is.  (See, I'm even giving y'all that part...but everyone loses a letter grade for it!)

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at July 30, 2010 11:49 AM (IkEhE)

369

thats Sweaty Gnads

 

Posted by: dananjcon at July 30, 2010 11:50 AM (pr+up)

370 385 Actually, is there an example of a hard, right wing action in the last 20 years?

Posted by: CDR M at July 30, 2010 04:43 PM (5I8G0)

I think the last one involved some tea in the Boston harbor?

Posted by: Randy at July 30, 2010 11:51 AM (zQKSr)

371 I read something about Chelsea that said she was an arrogant bitch with a strong sense of entitlement and that she was rude to people around the Whitehouse.

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 30, 2010 11:52 AM (bw+Qn)

372 Jewish men don't feel having sex with a non jew is adultery.  Just like Muslims, they believe non jews just aren't in the tribe, they don't count.

Now if you screw a jew girl, you better be planning on marrying her.  Chelsea is right to be afraid this guy will cheat on her, he will, but it won't count unless she converts, then he's in trouble.

Posted by: Kemp at July 30, 2010 11:53 AM (2+9Yx)

373 396 Takes after her mother, then?

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at July 30, 2010 11:55 AM (IkEhE)

374 Posted by: rdbrewer at July 30, 2010 04:52 PM (bw+Qn)

Madamn, you are mistaken, our lovely sweet chelsea is very much missed at the WH.......but those evil bush twins, drunken sluts as they were, they are another story.....

And miss carter is missed too..

I know this cause I"m the MSM and they tell me everything...

Posted by: MSM at July 30, 2010 11:55 AM (p302b)

375 btw, she won't be wearing oscar, jenna bush beat her to it.
and Ivanka beat her to Vera.

and now vera is making bank by bing in Kohl's and david's bridal....

she will follow the MO model and go down the "unknown designer, that's all mine" path

Posted by: MSM at July 30, 2010 11:58 AM (p302b)

376 Goyim Knishes.

Gentile chicks to screw.

Posted by: Kemp at July 30, 2010 11:58 AM (2+9Yx)

377 Hey, It's 5:00.  Ace is posting right at bar opening!

Posted by: Kemp at July 30, 2010 12:04 PM (2+9Yx)

Posted by: rdbrewer at July 30, 2010 12:20 PM (bw+Qn)

379 If you're in the unit when it receives a unit citation, it's completely Ok to say "I won a presidential unit citation'.  If you say "I was awarded top honors' when your unit was, you're a liar.

And I never, ever understand people who do this shit.  Just serve.  People respect that.

Posted by: Legendary Film Star Rick Moranis at July 30, 2010 12:24 PM (dUOK+)

380 All of you "true conservative" Illinoisans proudly promising to shove a mobster up the ass of the entire country because Mark Kirk hurts your pwecious sensibilities can fuck yourselves.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at July 30, 2010 12:47 PM (0ueN4)

381 What's this about having to marry Jewish girls after having sex with them? Nonsense. I've never met one who wasn't an oral superstar. They didn't learn that on Wikipedia.

Posted by: ChicagoJedi at July 30, 2010 01:00 PM (WZFkG)

Posted by: MlR at July 30, 2010 02:42 PM (bXmuq)

383

all of you "practicalists/realists" are the reason our country is in such a sorry-ass state, your tired old arguements "it's the best we can do", "we have to accept what is" is nothing but an arguement in support of the corruption that is destroying us.

if you aren't willing to risk anything you will gain nothing.

every hill is a hill to die on, no hill is any less or more important than any other.

"... our lives, our fortunes, our sacred honor"

that's what the Founders risked, that's what must risked at all times if you want to be free, if you aren't willing to risk that you are nothing but a slave waiting for a master.

Posted by: shoey at July 30, 2010 02:45 PM (yCH89)

384 And speaking of GOP politicians with padded resumes.

I'm not supposed to notice that the Graham has never been called up and shipped out for anything but 2-week annual trainings since he became a politician. Pure coincidence, I'm sure.

Posted by: MlR at July 30, 2010 02:54 PM (bXmuq)

385 once you willingly give up one hill, exactly what is the point in fighting for any of the others?

Posted by: shoey at July 30, 2010 02:55 PM (yCH89)

386 I'm still trying to understand this purity thing.  As I understand it, if you aren't persuasive enough to get the candidate that you want to win the primary, you should vote for the person you least want to have in office?  Am I getting that right?

Posted by: toby928 at July 30, 2010 03:01 PM (8/oOq)

387

I believe write-ins are still legal.

and it has nothing to do with "purity" I simply and flatly refuse to accept the "lesser-of-two-evils" arguement anymore, I'm done with that kind of thinking, there is a better way and the Founders showed it to us.

the Constitution is the Law of the Land, I will not vote for any politican who does not abide by it.

character matters, our leaders MUST be held to a higher ethical and moral standard than average citizens.

Kirk is a liar and a self-agrandizer, he is not fit to hold any elected office 

Posted by: shoey at July 30, 2010 03:12 PM (yCH89)

388

People in Michigan have a chance to send President Obama a message August 3rd!

President Obama is trying to knock down Michigan’s best chance at finally having a conservative governor, but we can’t let Obama win! The stakes of this election are simply too high!

Posted by: Dan at July 30, 2010 03:25 PM (9L1z6)

389 Posted by: shoey at July 30, 2010 07:45 PM (yCH89) There isn't anything to risk!!! It's Kirk or Guliegianinloohoolipollios. That's it. You wanted purity whine about it during the primaries. Whining now only helps the DNC. I voted for someone other than Kirk in the primaries. Tough. I'd rather have Kirk than Gahoolipoolianus. That's the only option at this point. So get off your soapbox.

Posted by: ChicagoJedi at July 30, 2010 03:29 PM (WZFkG)

390 "What I read was every transaction over $600.00 modeled after the law that currently requires banks to report every transaction over 10K."

The bank transaction reporting statute also makes "structuring," i.e., intentionally setting up a series of smaller transactions to avoid reporting, a felony.

Posted by: Dave J. at July 30, 2010 03:32 PM (DCQ0q)

391 Mark Kirk:  You can polish a turd, but in the end, it's still just a shiny piece of poop.

Posted by: doom_n_gloom at July 30, 2010 03:39 PM (d8XZZ)

392

"So get off your soapbox"

I'm not standing a soapbox, you are standing in a hole, I invite you to step out of it.

Posted by: shoey at July 30, 2010 03:55 PM (yCH89)

393 Whichever party wins this race will be the loser because the winning candidate will end up disgracing his party.  Therefore, I hope the mobster banker wins.  I'm sure he'll be scandaled out before his term is finished.  Kirk is an anti-gun, cap and tax, piece of shit.   He is the embodiment of the phrase, "With friends like these, who needs enemies?"

Posted by: Shiner Bock at July 30, 2010 04:42 PM (gekEr)

394 I just hope that Chelsea and her husband have as marriage that is as long and loving as her parents.

I think that I get you, soo subtle and shit.

You're one of the one's who wear great hats and hiss gossip during the service aren't you?

I personally have no brief against either the bride or the groom.

I wish them well.





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