January 31, 2012

Is Palin A Lame Duck?
— Ace

Someone mentioned "Palin threads just don't have the same juice they used to."

It seems that way to me now. I don't listen to her either way anymore.

With the party now turning to a presidential election, is her role as lightning rod/lightning-thrower now more or less over?

Of course she'll never be completely over; I don't mean that. She will still be on FoxNews and still produce books and such.

But she's not really a major player now, is she?

Posted by: Ace at 11:54 AM | Comments (458)
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1 Yesterday's news. The sad part is she doesn't know it. Like an aging superstar athlete who doesn't know it's time to go.

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2012 11:56 AM (i6RpT)

2 Reminds me of the old farmer who was relaxing in his easy chair while the women and children scurried about cleaning up after dinner. "Why aren't you helping?" he was asked. He scoffed "That's women's work." When asked to elaborate he said "Any work that's in or near the house, not too complicated or physically strenuous, and safe is left for the women and children. Men's work is far from the house, requires mechanical aptitude or physical strength, is dirty and is occasionally dangerous. I do men's work.

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at January 31, 2012 11:56 AM (UqKQV)

3 She obviously still has the power to make you act like a dick. You will be SMOD'ed.

Posted by: Sweet Meteor of Death at January 31, 2012 11:56 AM (ggRof)

4 Ya i stop listening to politicians once they go on reality shows....just sayin...

Posted by: MikeInBA at January 31, 2012 11:56 AM (Q9Fr6)

5
It appears that she completely blew up her whole kingmaker potential.


Posted by: Soothsayer at January 31, 2012 11:57 AM (sqkOB)

6 Nope.  The magic is gone, if there ever was any.

Have you noticed how hard it is to even listen to her voice?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 31, 2012 11:57 AM (f9c2L)

7 stole that quote, BTW.  From somewhere......

far away and long ago

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at January 31, 2012 11:57 AM (UqKQV)

8 Once up on a time I was a huge Palin supporter. I told my daughters that I couldn't wait until the day I could vote for her for president. Now her voice is one of the rare things that can send me searching for the remote control while I'm comfortably seated on the couch. Not sure what happened other than the fact that everything she says is somehow self promoting. Her analysis seems pretty superficial as well.

Posted by: yomomma at January 31, 2012 11:57 AM (DKLl9)

9 stole that quote, BTW. From somewhere...... far away and long ago Posted by: SantaRosaStan at January 31, 2012 04:57 PM (UqKQV) All the best stuff is stolen

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2012 11:58 AM (i6RpT)

10 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at January 31, 2012 11:58 AM (8y9MW)

11 I still really respect her. She makes a lot of sense to me. I'm not bothered with how popular she is. The masses seem rather fickle this election

Posted by: Village Idiot at January 31, 2012 11:58 AM (utXSy)

12 Hmmm... I'd say Palin is still a whole lot more relevant than Perry.

Posted by: stuiec at January 31, 2012 11:59 AM (CDtDs)

13

The bloom is off the rose. Has anyone noticed her half assed endorsement/non-endorsement of Gingrich?

 

Had this been made last summer, it would have been covered by every news network. Now the response is just, "meh".

Her TV show is gone, she doesn't appear on Fox as much anymore.  No one was really asking for her endorsement in the primaries.

I think she's done as a major political force.

Posted by: Ben at January 31, 2012 11:59 AM (wuv1c)

14 ............so politics is Men's Work:  Dangerous and dirty.  'far from the house'

so Palin was shooed back to the kitchen.  To cook, and stuff.

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at January 31, 2012 11:59 AM (UqKQV)

15 NOOOOOOOOO!

Posted by: Hotair Commenter at January 31, 2012 11:59 AM (dYRSH)

16
Why is Ace asking if she's a lame duck?

Why not use the word irrelevant?

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 31, 2012 11:59 AM (sqkOB)

17

I used to think she was great.

She was a big part of the reason I actually got a little enthusiastic about the McCain campaign. 

But now, I'm getting tired of her.  She has had a long, hard, 4 years, and frankly, I don't think she is the same person. 

I don't blame her, considering the amount of vile hatred thrown her way. 

But she isn't the same.  I'm not sure exactly how, but she is just different somehow.

Posted by: dan-O at January 31, 2012 11:59 AM (sWycd)

18 I'd still rather have a President Palin rather a President o..oba....ah I just can't bring myself to say his name and the word President in the same post

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2012 11:59 AM (i6RpT)

19 I still have a lot of respect for her, and agree with most of the things she says. Can't say the same for Romney or Newt, and I had to go vote for one of them today. Just sayin.

Posted by: LauderdaleVet at January 31, 2012 12:00 PM (mnrxG)

20 I loved her when she was McCain's running mate.  Now the sound of her voice sends me searching for the mute button on the remote.

Gah.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2012 12:00 PM (UOM48)

21 She stopped being relevant when she refused to run for the nomination.

Correction: she stopped seeming relevant when she refused to run for the nomination.  She stopped being relevant long before that- when she decided not to do the kinds of things she needed to do to set up a presidential bid in the first place.

She could have survived the "quitter" meme- the facts were more or less on her side there.  What she did in the months and years after sapped what political capital she had, and she never did anything to replenish it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) SMOD 2012 at January 31, 2012 12:00 PM (8y9MW)

22 She's got more juice than Rick Perry.

Posted by: tsj017 at January 31, 2012 12:00 PM (P4pt7)

23 Someone mentioned "Palin threads just don't have the same juice they used to."

The juice is in the prior thread.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at January 31, 2012 12:00 PM (QKKT0)

24 I knew she lost her appeal when her endorsed candidate lost in Alaska.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 31, 2012 12:01 PM (QnnIk)

25 If HotAir ever sees this post I have no doubt the website will literally go up in flames.

Posted by: yomomma at January 31, 2012 12:01 PM (DKLl9)

26 She never was a player to serious people.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 31, 2012 12:01 PM (odEHq)

27
If she ain't runnin' for office, she's just runnin' her mouth.

She raised a lot of people's hopes just to get herself a TV gig. I was a fan. No more.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at January 31, 2012 12:01 PM (WE2w3)

28 Thank God. After her knee jerk endorsement of Newt, I questioned her motives as far as "what is really important to her." It seemed more about her allies losing consultant power rather than looking down the road for what's best for the country. So, good riddance Palin. You ruined your influence yourself by becoming Newt-like without the infidelity.

Posted by: Riker at January 31, 2012 12:01 PM (nMMma)

29
They got to her. She has no juice.

I feel like Donald Sutherland in INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS when he ran into his girlfriend and she screamed.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 31, 2012 12:01 PM (sqkOB)

30 I'd like to 'play' with her, IYKWIMAITYD.   Hit that like a GONG

Posted by: Will Folks, esq. at January 31, 2012 12:01 PM (UqKQV)

31 It was clear shortly after '08 that she decided to go the media route and cash in on her infamous celebrity. She was smart to do so. The media had killed any potential political career while the cockroach was trying to personally bankrupt and destroy her. I don't mind that she teased a Prez run for 3 years to make money, speaking fees, Fox shows, etc, etc. I'd like her to bow out gracefully now that it's serious time -- but in many ways it helps Romney that Palin is attacking him. Having Palin, Gingrich and others call Romney a liberal helps him with independents. It's gonna be hard for Obama to paint Romney as a crazy right-winger after 6 months of Gingrich, the poster boy for crazy right winger, calling him a liberal.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at January 31, 2012 12:01 PM (ZPrif)

32 Things have gone so well since Palin was beaten into irrelevance, don't you think?

Posted by: tsj017 at January 31, 2012 12:02 PM (P4pt7)

33 She's still a little hot, for some of us old guys. But as a player in Republican politics? Shit, no.

Posted by: I am the walrus, goo-goo-ga-joo at January 31, 2012 12:02 PM (ybkwK)

34 Just take a bow, this gloating is unbecoming.

Posted by: S at January 31, 2012 12:02 PM (nytOB)

35 The novelty and shock value she had is probably on the wane, but she could have a long run in the conservative intelligentsia - yea, I said it - and TV talking heads circuit.  Political office - meh.

Posted by: dblwmy at January 31, 2012 12:03 PM (BvTwT)

36 I'd still hit it.

Posted by: garrett at January 31, 2012 12:04 PM (h8/7R)

37

I totally stopped reading and/or commenting on Palin threads.

Posted by: sleepy-beans at January 31, 2012 12:04 PM (xvAbw)

38 ---All the best stuff is stolen

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2012 04:58 PM (i6RpT) ---


no shit........

Posted by: Stephen Glass at January 31, 2012 12:04 PM (UqKQV)

39 OT:  Jonah Goldberg calls for genocide.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/6r28gkt

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 31, 2012 12:04 PM (Hx5uv)

40 Palin who?

Posted by: Emperor of SMOD at January 31, 2012 12:04 PM (epBek)

41
Remember 1986?

Hear the one about Tina Sarah, some say she's much too loose
That came straight from a guy who claims he's tastin' her juice
Hear the one about Michael, some say he must be gay
I try to argue, but they said if he was straight he wouldn't move that way
Hear the one about Susan, some say she's just a tease
In a camisole she's six feet tall, she'll knock you to you knees

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 31, 2012 12:04 PM (sqkOB)

42

The problem with being famous, for being famous... is that unless you are doing stuff all the time?  You won't be famous anymore.

 

I suggest someone starts a divorce rumor... again...

Posted by: Some Kardashian at January 31, 2012 12:05 PM (lZBBB)

43 She squandered what mojo she had, and now she's just another voice.

Sic transit gloria mundi.

Posted by: DarkLord©, Rogue Commenter at January 31, 2012 12:05 PM (GBXon)

44 I saw a funny bumper sticker (no doubt on a lib's car)

Palin 2012-2014

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 31, 2012 12:05 PM (nEUpB)

45 Yup, she's toast. But it was nice while she was relevant, she gave the Tea Party a lot of momentum. It's sad when we allow the media to destroy a person, though. She still has good ideas, but it seems Palin Fatigue has finally set in.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 31, 2012 12:05 PM (d0Tfm)

46 She could have been, had she not played the coy/tease game on running for so long, raising money from believers and then screwing them.  Also, she could have had a hand in the primaries helping her "friend" Gov. Perry and we wouldn't be stuck with Mittens v. Newt.

Just my 2 cents.

Posted by: observer at January 31, 2012 12:05 PM (ErWzr)

47

OK she can shoot, I'll give her that.

 

Hah!

Posted by: Skylined Caribou at January 31, 2012 12:06 PM (h8/7R)

48 The day she resigned is the day I stopped caring.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 31, 2012 12:06 PM (epBek)

49 Ace, really? wth is going on? Don't we have better things to discuss? It's 24/7 talk about anything but the issues and bash, bash, bash. What did Newt say today on the trail? what did Mitt say today? Instead we get more name calling and he's done or she done or Reagan said this from 6 feet under. Stop the madness!! please!!

Posted by: Brian at January 31, 2012 12:06 PM (wTSvK)

50 It's like she's gone out of her way to prove true every negative thing said about her- drama whoring, dumb, diva, etc.

Every time I hear her on Fox News it's like she's talking to 5th grade kids, so intellectually shallow her banal "analysis" is.  Santorum did well in Iowa because he appeals to the state's evangelical demographic?  Well no shit, you vapid bimbo.

After the rest of us are getting very tired of this primary cycle, she's still pushing for this being dragged out as long as possible.  No doubt so she and Fox News can continue pretending she has anything remotely insightful to say about the race, and perhaps in the vain hope that a brokered convention would allow her to generate some more bullshit attention-whoring drama.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 31, 2012 12:06 PM (SY2Kh)

51 "But she's not really a major player now, is she?"

Of the people that aren't running for national office, who is?

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at January 31, 2012 12:06 PM (1rHeD)

52 She made the rookie mistake of taking Rush Limbaugh a little too literally when he said that to be a player she needed to get out of Alaska and into the lower 48.  I think her resignation lowered her profile as a political player, and I think the reality shows diluted her brand.

It doesn't help that she tends to speak in platitudes and spout boilerplate rhetoric.  It's easy to agree with her because the things she says are usually so generalized.  I like the woman but I don't really care what she has to say these days, mainly because she doesn't have anything interesting to say.

Posted by: Caiwyn at January 31, 2012 12:06 PM (ttktr)

53 SMOD/Palin 2012 works for me.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2012 12:07 PM (UOM48)

54
You know who else has no juice?

All the conservatives who produced an epic grassroots effort in 2010 to strike back at the Democrats.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 31, 2012 12:07 PM (sqkOB)

55 It's debatable if she ever had it in her to be a real serious political person, but after what the MSM put her and her family thru, I for one am damn glad she was able to cash in. THAT at least she deserved. Fuck the MSM

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2012 12:07 PM (i6RpT)

56 Time for the tasteful spread in Playboy before the descent back to obscurity.

Posted by: Biggus Dickus at January 31, 2012 12:07 PM (dYRSH)

57 You know who this hurts?

Posted by: Greta Van Susteren at January 31, 2012 12:08 PM (DKLl9)

58 She's done as far as elective politics is concerned. I still like her as a person and her family, but ultimately, when she quit the Alaska Governor's mansion, all she could be was a spokesperson. She had no way of redeeming herself as a politician. She should have stayed and fought her opposition as Governor. If she was successful, she could have become a Senator, or perhaps get another shot at VP.

Posted by: Aruges at January 31, 2012 12:08 PM (MDchW)

59 Todd is the big kahuna now.  He is campaigning with Newt.

Posted by: alans at January 31, 2012 12:08 PM (hrTcJ)

60 She's become shrill

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 31, 2012 12:08 PM (CT5RB)

61

Sarah took a walk through the deep, dark wood,

When she spotted Sean Hannity,

And his job looked good.

 

"What time do you go live, sweet little Sean?

I have a home studio, I'll leave the lights on."

Posted by: The NeoConalo at January 31, 2012 12:08 PM (kZVsz)

62 Is this The Thread to Nowhere?  Are we getting there--fast????

Palin in 2012 is John Glenn in 1986 ( only he was crafty enough to not give up his Senate seat ).   She should run against that Skank-Boy Alaska Dem in 2014 and take his undeserved seat

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, sedated yet paranoid at January 31, 2012 12:09 PM (UqKQV)

63 Palin killed the Tea Party, she took all the energy out of it, and then hitched it to Newt.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2012 12:09 PM (r2PLg)

64 45-- funny. Brian, All I can advise you to do is chillaxe. She is not a family member. you are not required to get emotionally upset when she is discussed. I'm surprised at the way you put it -- isn't it more important to talk about Mitt and Newt? I used to get the opposite -- it's crucial to note each of palin's facebook missives.

Posted by: ace at January 31, 2012 12:09 PM (nj1bB)

65
Two years from now she'll be 300 lbs and we'll see her on The Biggest Loser.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 31, 2012 12:09 PM (sqkOB)

66 58 Time for the tasteful spread in Playboy before the descent back to obscurity. Posted by: Biggus Dickus at January 31, 2012 05:07 PM (dYRSH) I can't hear what you're saying over the sound of relentless fapping by the valurite soaked morons.

Posted by: fap at January 31, 2012 12:09 PM (DKLl9)

67 10 to 1 says that David Kernell takes up the ass during the first night of lock up.

Posted by: I bone in prison at January 31, 2012 12:09 PM (zCojJ)

68 Palin has spent the last two years proving that many of the bad things said about her are true.

Posted by: packsoldier at January 31, 2012 12:09 PM (7/Cwy)

69 Juice and Palin in the same sentence...hmmm; I'd let Palin juice my lemon.

Posted by: Max Wedge at January 31, 2012 12:09 PM (GsBJY)

70 Baroccupy !

Posted by: MSM crackhead reporter at January 31, 2012 12:10 PM (sJKFk)

71 Susan Molinari who?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 31, 2012 12:10 PM (odEHq)

72 Craig Ferguson once said "I like her in that naughty librarian sorta way"

Posted by: CheshireLion at January 31, 2012 12:10 PM (tqE0E)

73

I should note that I liked 2008 Palin. I was real excited when McCain picked her.

Since then, she's made a rash of bad choices. I never took her seriously when she quit her governorship. I know the reasons behind it, but you don't freaking quit when your a governor.

You just don't do it.

Posted by: Ben at January 31, 2012 12:10 PM (wuv1c)

74 Yeah, she's over.  And I'm not just saying that because I haven't liked her since 2008.  I'm saying it because her coy endorsement/non-endorsement of Gingrich doesn't seem to have moved the needle even the slightest bit.

Really, all the air went out of her tires after she decided not to run for President.  She no longer had even the slightest bit of relevance.  Oddly enough, she even seems to have lost some of her physical glamour, though I'm sure that's all psychological.

Posted by: Jeff B. supports SMOD/Coldcuts '12 at January 31, 2012 12:10 PM (TsYLl)

75 6 Nope. The magic is gone, if there ever was any. Have you noticed how hard it is to even listen to her voice? Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 31, 2012 04:57 PM (f9c2L) No, but only because I change channels at first sight now. Can't stand Mister Becky-becky-becky-stan Cain either, come to think of it. What an embarrassment he turned out to be.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 31, 2012 12:10 PM (niZvt)

76 Palin in 2012 is John Glenn in 1986 ( only he was crafty enough to not give up his Senate seat ). She should run against that Skank-Boy Alaska Dem in 2014 and take his undeserved seat Posted by: SantaRosaStan, sedated yet paranoid at January 31, 2012 05:09 PM (UqKQV) Ugh, well I'd rather go "Round the World" with Palin than Glenn. If ya catch my meaning

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2012 12:11 PM (i6RpT)

77 Between the scandal fatigue, victim fatigue and endorsement impotency, noticing her just isn't worth the trouble. If there are any new hot governors out there with a voice that is dissimilar to an icepick to the brain, I would be very receptive.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at January 31, 2012 12:11 PM (+lsX1)

78

47 She could have been, had she not played the coy/tease game on running for so long, raising money from believers and then screwing them. Also, she could have had a hand in the primaries helping her "friend" Gov. Perry and we wouldn't be stuck with Mittens v. Newt.

Just my 2 cents.
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This!

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But the tease has backfired on her. .....How could she ever be considered for President now, after taking so long to make a decision?

.

It's 3 am....and President Palin gets a call...."Hello. Oh I'll get back to you in 10 months".

 

Posted by: wheatie at January 31, 2012 12:11 PM (UOOK1)

79 Is this negativity really a good idea? Seiously, it's kinda humming me out. I'm fans if both Ace and Palin, so I can't help but feel depressed by this talk. And to think, I believed the ire towards her would dissapate if she declined to run.

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 31, 2012 12:11 PM (qfgSV)

80 @77: well, she's not getting any younger; can't blame her for that.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 31, 2012 12:12 PM (niZvt)

81 She coulda been a contenda

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 31, 2012 12:12 PM (CT5RB)

82 I'm sicker of obama every day of the week and twice on Sundays

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2012 12:12 PM (i6RpT)

83 I suspect a lot of people who used to argue against your posting inaccurate and inflammatory things about Palin have either left, or just donÂ’t have the desire to get into a pissing match with you. I know I tend to just skip over such threads and go on to the next item on my reading list.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 31, 2012 12:13 PM (QF8uk)

84 I had hoped that Palin would stay above the fray and bring her often intelligent critiques of mainstream politics to the masses. But that half-assed endorsement of Newt seemed strained.

She is best on the outside, looking in and making fun of the rest of the pols and of the system itself.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 31, 2012 12:13 PM (nEUpB)

85 I do think the 'I can do more from the outside' was incorrect.  I don't blame her for not bothering to run, though.  Imagine what the Romney lie machine would be saying about her?

Who wants to put their family through that?  I wouldn't do it.

Anyway, I wish Palin had run against Murkowski for Senate.  She'd have won.  She aspired for more, and that was misguided.

She remains a very credible leader, in my book.  Very ethical, one of the good guys, and with distaste for some of the worse elements of the GOP.  But my book is not the one that gets read by most folks, hence Obama and Romney being viable.

Newt's leading in most nationwide polls and Romney had to spend 4:1 to beat him... I do think some of that is because Palin supports Newt.  Most of it is just the not-romney thing, though.

Posted by: Dustin at January 31, 2012 12:13 PM (wcT+8)

86 I think the degree of Palin juice is directly correlated to the (unfair and invasive) fire that she receives from the MBM and the Left.  I felt obligated to support her when Lefties were found sneaking around in her underwear drawer - less so when she's just flapping her gums saying stupid shit. 

Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 31, 2012 12:14 PM (mg08E)

87 She was pretty good in Nailin' Paylin', but her other work is kinda dry.

Posted by: MJ at January 31, 2012 12:14 PM (/x4oj)

88 humming me out ----- ++ ----- I've never heard it refered to that way.

Posted by: garrett at January 31, 2012 12:14 PM (h8/7R)

89 I was real excited when McCain picked her. ****** It was bad tactically, never mind all we know about Sarah Palin now. First he introduced a candidate that was new to the electorate so that the media could make that more of the discussion, and by picking her he lost the National Security advantage Republicans had.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2012 12:14 PM (r2PLg)

90 Well...ya just put up a post about her...so...

Posted by: TexMex817 at January 31, 2012 12:14 PM (hFuFE)

91 She thought she was playing the rope-a-dope. Turns out she was shadow boxing...

Posted by: supercore23 at January 31, 2012 12:15 PM (bwV72)

92

BTW, I found out two things today while voting: 1. You can't write in the candidate of your choice.

2. I have CRSA (Can't Remember Shit Anymore). I forgot they changed my precinct when I moved across the street last year.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 31, 2012 12:15 PM (d0Tfm)

93
Yeah, she's over.

Right until she throws a lightning bolt that fries a certain ewok's pudding cup. With his parts being dipped in said cup at the time of the strike.

Lends new meaning to "don't tase me, bro!"

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at January 31, 2012 12:15 PM (1hM1d)

94 Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 31, 2012 05:13 PM (QF8uk)

Inaccurate? Bullshit. prove it.

Inflammatory? Well....duh. It's a political blog that is intended to showcase ace's opinions and his acerbic whit, not to be a pale reflection of a newspaper.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 31, 2012 12:15 PM (nEUpB)

95
But if you don't think she'd be a big help on the campaign trail for the nominee, you'd be wrong.

No, really, don't embarrass yourselves by disagreeing with me.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 31, 2012 12:15 PM (sqkOB)

96

 I think the degree of Palin juice is directly correlated to...

 

Proper Hydration.

Posted by: garrett at January 31, 2012 12:15 PM (h8/7R)

97 Funny we bring this up... was watching her on Hannidate last nite, and had to turn the channel.  Just the repetitive, kinda shrill mama grizzly thing is just making my boner fade nowadays.

Posted by: Pipe Holder at January 31, 2012 12:16 PM (VTeUD)

98 Remember how Romney was just too nice and milquetoasty to take on Obama? Now it's all whining about the vicious "Romney lie machine". So which is it, Newtists?

Posted by: packsoldier at January 31, 2012 12:16 PM (7/Cwy)

99 76 I should note that I liked 2008 Palin. I was real excited when McCain picked her. Since then, she's made a rash of bad choices. I never took her seriously when she quit her governorship. I know the reasons behind it, but you don't freaking quit when your a governor. You just don't do it. Posted by: Ben at January 31, 2012 05:10 PM (wuv1c) I liked her too. Then it slowly dawned on me she had no interest in learning the issues and building her reputation as a serious thinker and politician. Just in cashing in; her coyness about running/not running was the last straw.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 31, 2012 12:16 PM (niZvt)

100

Thought she mopped the floor with Biden and spoke conservative principles clearly, but once she resigned the governorship I really couldn't defend her any longer.

I do think it is hilarious that con's are whining about her voice now.  There was a time when all the liberals could say was that they couldn't stand her voice.  

 

 

Posted by: California Red at January 31, 2012 12:16 PM (DXTKe)

101 First he introduced a candidate that was new to the electorate so that the media could make that more of the discussion, and by picking her he lost the National Security advantage Republicans had. Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2012 05:14 PM (r2PLg) With McCain as the candidate on the top of the ticket we were not winning that race of Jesus was on the ticket with him

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2012 12:16 PM (i6RpT)

102 >>>I suspect a lot of people who used to argue against your posting inaccurate and inflammatory things about Palin have either left, or just donÂ’t have the desire to get into a pissing match with you. My problem is that anything negative said about Palin is considered "inflammatory." How did that happen? Is that healthy?

Posted by: ace at January 31, 2012 12:16 PM (nj1bB)

103 Wow it took 88 comments before someone partially blamed Romney for Palin's descent. You guys are slacking.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 31, 2012 12:16 PM (QnnIk)

104 "It was bad tactically, never mind all we know about Sarah Palin now.

First he introduced a candidate that was new to the electorate so that the media could make that more of the discussion, and by picking her he lost the National Security advantage Republicans had.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2012 05:14 PM (r2PLg)"


Don't overlook the great advantages it brought.  Mccain sorely needed to bring conservatives back, and this was crucial.  He would have done worse without her.

It was a mistake, though, merely because she needed more time as governor as was thrown to the wolves by a campaign that didn't really seem to give a shit about anything.

Posted by: Dustin at January 31, 2012 12:17 PM (wcT+8)

105 The people saying she's got no juice are the same ones who never thought she had any in the 1st place.

Posted by: Todd Palin at January 31, 2012 12:17 PM (lVGED)

106 Misogynist sounds kinda hot.

Posted by: MJ at January 31, 2012 12:18 PM (/x4oj)

107 Shines off that penny now.

Posted by: dogfish at January 31, 2012 12:18 PM (N2yhW)

108 Newt is becoming annoying beyond words. I honestly think he's capable of endorsing Obama in the general election, if Mitt gets the GOP nod. He's out for revenge, and it's all he cares about.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 31, 2012 12:18 PM (niZvt)

109 And to think, I believed the ire towards her would dissapate if she declined to run.
---
She knew what she needed to do. 

Posted by: the Mittens collective at January 31, 2012 12:18 PM (5H6zj)

110 She'll. Be. Back.

Posted by: Terminator at January 31, 2012 12:19 PM (+q3dR)

111 True, your right, just crap...this is crap. Perry goes...to Newt but everybody hates Newt and now we are going to get Mitt...someone is forsaking me...I just know it. :-)

Posted by: Brian at January 31, 2012 12:19 PM (wTSvK)

112
Remember the scene in UNFORGIVEN when William Munny got very upset at Lil Bill for "decoratin his town with my friend" Morgan Freeman?

The Left was so brutal with Sarah Palin and her family that she serves as an example to all Republicans who dare speak up. That's why we have the shitty candidates we have today, and that's why most of the Republicans in Congress are like mimes.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 31, 2012 12:19 PM (sqkOB)

113 Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2012 05:12 PM (i6RpT)

Stow that crap. We're here to eviscerate our own...not defeat the worst president in our history.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 31, 2012 12:19 PM (nEUpB)

114 I was a huge Palin fan until she took to that bus. Now she does tours and is just another talking head. She blew all her power. And she had real power at one time. She could have been a kingmaker.

Posted by: Pecos at January 31, 2012 12:19 PM (2Gb0y)

115

Posted by: Todd Palin at January 31, 2012 05:17 PM (lVGED)

 

I'm sure she was juicier 20 years ago.

Posted by: garrett at January 31, 2012 12:19 PM (h8/7R)

116
For at least the next two election cycles her prominence will wax and wane with the foibles of the GOP.

Posted by: Romneycare for Everywhere at January 31, 2012 12:20 PM (7+pP9)

117 Would have been funny if you had restricted this post to 3 comments.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk, team smod recruit at January 31, 2012 12:20 PM (XrrP7)

118 I like her.  Always have.  The first thing I said to my friends when John McCain picked her was, for the first time in my life, I can vote for someone just like me.  Except for the glam.  Seriously, her life is my life in so many ways.  I don't know if I will ever again get to hear someone who has lived what I live get to speak what I would speak.

To see her torn to shreds because she didn't measure up makes me sad.  First, from the people you knew were gonna shred her because the were Dems.  Then, from the people you  ......

Well. Nevermind.

Don't worry.  I'm not going to run for office either.  I wouldn't dare.  Not many will.  Who would want that? Yet if I were to run, I'd be a lot like her.  Then you could all shred me too.

This is all beside the point of whether or not I thought she should run for President.  I didn't. And I don't. 


Posted by: mama winger at January 31, 2012 12:20 PM (P6QsQ)

119 yeah, no write-ins on the Fla R primary ballots

'govt-issued' photo ID required, plus a signature confirming that you is who you say you is.   

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, sedated yet paranoid at January 31, 2012 12:20 PM (UqKQV)

120 So what about Christine O'Donnell?

What did I say?


Posted by: Penfold at January 31, 2012 12:20 PM (1PeEC)

121 Are there Palin code words or dog whistles or whatever? When they make say she's stupid we can say that its code for hating all women, right? Maybe she's not over...

Posted by: MJ at January 31, 2012 12:21 PM (/x4oj)

122

Palin is good for the party regardless of the preceding and shallow invective.  I like her and trust she'll choose her moments.

Let's leave the 'Pub bashing to the media, shall we?

Posted by: Mazzuchelli at January 31, 2012 12:21 PM (piR98)

123 Well, I don't know if Palin is a lame duck, but the Iowa GOP chairman who called it (incorrectly) for Romney is an *unemployed* duck. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 31, 2012 12:21 PM (5H6zj)

124 119 For at least the next two election cycles her prominence will wax and wane with the foibles of the GOP. Posted by: Romneycare for Everywhere at January 31, 2012 05:20 PM (7+pP9) So you're saying she waxes her prominence?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 31, 2012 12:22 PM (niZvt)

125 That's just embarrassing. I haven't even started drinking yet. You get the point.

Posted by: MJ at January 31, 2012 12:22 PM (/x4oj)

126 Dustin The whole problem with McCain was his analysis of the media. Not only when picking a new politician with little name recognition or experience as his VP, but when he thought they would treat him benignly once he was- The Republican nominee.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2012 12:22 PM (r2PLg)

127 Heh. Rush was right. As usual.

Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 31, 2012 12:22 PM (Ci0JG)

128

For me she is the thing you really wanted, that once you got, you kinda didn't anymore. When I was a kid I wanted a Green Machine. I really wanted one and no gay ass Big Wheel was gonna cut it.

So, I finally get  the Green Machine. Orgasmic! Except, after a few days, you know? The Green Machine is a  total ass whip. Like Palin, when she was new on the scene and looking awesome like that Green Machine. Then you um, have it for a little while and yep, total fucking beating...

Posted by: Sgt. Fury at January 31, 2012 12:22 PM (r2dnH)

129 I'll return more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

Posted by: Palin Juice at January 31, 2012 12:22 PM (fZr9T)

130 You know what else?  My voice sounds like hers too.  Shred that.

Posted by: mama winger at January 31, 2012 12:23 PM (P6QsQ)

131 >>>Let's leave the 'Pub bashing to the media, shall we? I disagree with this because few used to complain when I'd attack Romney or whoever. It seems that only some candidates are granted this No-Bummer Bubble of Immunity. I do not like the idea that I'm supposed to fall in line for one person (or her proxies) I'm frankly not crazy about.

Posted by: ace at January 31, 2012 12:23 PM (nj1bB)

132

An old-line Alaskan Republican wheel from the Murkowski camp once told me, "She is the most gifted natural politician I've ever seen." Another Palin enemy Andrew Halcro was quoted as saying, "The Alaska landscape is littered with the bones of people who underestimated Sarah Palin."

Is she running for office? No.

Anyone with a brain can see that this race is going to go to Romney. There is nothing to be gained by jumping on his bandwagon now and no point in making a big Gingrich endorsement. Let the situation play out a bit further and you will see Palin come roaring back as Romney's surrogate on the right, followed by appt as Sec of Energy.

 

Posted by: JimWilke at January 31, 2012 12:23 PM (5kHJq)

133 "Newt is becoming annoying beyond words.

I honestly think he's capable of endorsing Obama in the general election, if Mitt gets the GOP nod. He's out for revenge, and it's all he cares about. Posted by: CoolCzech at January 31, 2012 05:18 PM"

Romney has that affect on people.  Not just politicians, but also voters.

What's worse, voting for Jimmy Carter over Ronald Reagan, or voting Obama over Romney?

Posted by: Dustin at January 31, 2012 12:23 PM (wcT+8)

134 I turn the channel whenever she's on.  I'm a diehard conservative who voted for McCain because of Palin.

Posted by: gimley at January 31, 2012 12:23 PM (ubduJ)

135 Also, she could have had a hand in the primaries helping her "friend" Gov. Perry and we wouldn't be stuck with Mittens v. Newt.
Nail, head.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 31, 2012 12:24 PM (d0Tfm)

136 I think we can all agree Palin was absolutely shredded by the media.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2012 12:24 PM (r2PLg)

137 Track Palin for President. And a Vet to boot

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2012 12:24 PM (i6RpT)

138 The Left was so brutal with Sarah Palin and her family that she serves as an example to all Republicans who dare speak up. That's why we have the shitty candidates we have today, and that's why most of the Republicans in Congress are like mimes. -------------------- I couldn't agree more, but it would have helped her beloved cause if she would have pushed back against that thrashing by finishing her terms, studying issues deeply, and running in 2012.

Posted by: MJ at January 31, 2012 12:24 PM (/x4oj)

139

Feh. I still like the woman. I'd take her over any of these twerps we're savaging each other over. Not as a candidate--she'd get whacked nearly as badly as Gingrich. But to run the Executive, all day.

 

A lot of what sounds boilerplate sounds that way because it's common sense. We need more of it going around. I know it's okay to look down on her because of her "populist appeal". I am about as far as you can get from being a populist.

 

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 31, 2012 12:25 PM (puy4B)

140
Let's leave the 'Pub bashing to the media, shall we?

Posted by: Mazzuchelli at January 31, 2012 05:21 PM (piR9


Pssssst -- on the down low -- Ace needs hits.

Posted by: Romneycare for Everywhere at January 31, 2012 12:25 PM (7+pP9)

141 Inaccurate? Bullshit. prove it. The most recent was claiming that itÂ’s a fact that Palin as Governor demanded that Moneghan fire another trooper. Even the Branchflower Report couldnÂ’t say that, and provided evidence that in fact she never did any such thing. (See link.) My problem is that anything negative said about Palin is considered "inflammatory." Well, yes, when theyÂ’re untrue and especially when they buy into the standard tactic of (a) claim a lie, (b) ignore when the lie turns out not to be true, and (c) keep repeating the lie.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 31, 2012 12:25 PM (QF8uk)

142
it is true mamawinger, she was virtually crucified.  the part that always amazed me was how many republicans went after her.  nevertheless, the powers that be in either party can not allow her or any other small govt type to get to a position of real power.  they won't let their sweet taxpayer funded ox to ever be gored.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk, team smod recruit at January 31, 2012 12:25 PM (XrrP7)

143 I'm sure she weighed the harm to her family by the MSM vs the potential of actually gaining the nomination or entering primaries to play kingmaker. Family won. And I can't blame her. Still it's sad. Death of a Valkerie and all...

Posted by: naturalfake at January 31, 2012 12:26 PM (XBdI0)

144 Short answer:  No.


Long answer:  Not really.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 31, 2012 12:26 PM (UK9cE)

145 Infatuation..doo, doo,.......doo, Infatuation!  Isn't that song from the 80's?  Who wrote this thread, Andrew Sullivan?

Posted by: ole scratch at January 31, 2012 12:26 PM (+56Bh)

146 139 Also, she could have had a hand in the primaries helping her "friend" Gov. Perry and we wouldn't be stuck with Mittens v. Newt. Nail, head. Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 31, 2012 05:24 PM (d0Tfm) OK, you mean they could have tag-teamed Katie Couric during an interview?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 31, 2012 12:26 PM (niZvt)

147 For me she is the thing you really wanted, that once you got, you kinda didn't anymore.

Or like that favorite TV or movie celebrity that comes across as smart, funny and cool on screen.  Then you actually meet them and find that they're a dumb, needy, self-centered, shallow twat who looks like crap without 3 layers of makeup.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at January 31, 2012 12:27 PM (SY2Kh)

148 related Ace topics: Led Zepplin, overrated? Boycotting the Superbowl, what you can do instead. cats? you know, they're really just not as good as dogs. trying to stir up some trubble.

Posted by: joeindc44 - tebow's new lifting coach at January 31, 2012 12:27 PM (QxSug)

149 "Also, she could have had a hand in the primaries helping her "friend" Gov. Perry and we wouldn't be stuck with Mittens v. Newt."

Sigh...

So true.  I try not to hold a grudge about that, but indeed that makes no sense to me.  I wonder what the behind the scenes was on that?  Anyhow, that basically means Palin is not such a lame duck.

I still hope she runs for Senate.  Perfect place for her.

Posted by: Dustin at January 31, 2012 12:28 PM (wcT+8)

150 I don't get the whole voice thing. I thought the Left elected candidates based on some American Idol scorecard.
I don't care How someone sounds. I care what they say. And Palin spoke the truth for as long as she could. The silence from the GOP when she needed defending told me alot about the establishment GOP . This ugly primary is no surprise based on what they did to Palin.

Posted by: Pecos at January 31, 2012 12:28 PM (2Gb0y)

151 I loved her as a politician.  I don't really care much for her as a pundit.

Posted by: Darth Truman at January 31, 2012 12:29 PM (I2LwF)

152 The silence from the GOP when she needed defending told me alot about the establishment GOP


Yup.

Posted by: mama winger at January 31, 2012 12:29 PM (P6QsQ)

153 I have saved or created over 5 million jobs since I turned 18 years old.  Barack's got nothin' with his sad 2 million saved or created. 

Posted by: ole scratch at January 31, 2012 12:30 PM (+56Bh)

154 Quack.

Posted by: nickless at January 31, 2012 12:30 PM (MMC8r)

155 O/T but tasty:

@DarrellIssa: Enough. If AG #Holder & @thejusticedept keep stonewalling on #fastandfurious, we'll hold him in contempt: fxn.ws/zLGYaW  #tcot

Posted by: DarkLord©, Rogue Commenter at January 31, 2012 12:30 PM (GBXon)

156 What Darth Truman said.

Posted by: mpfs at January 31, 2012 12:30 PM (iYbLN)

157 Timing is everything, Sarah Palin could have used more time before McCain picked her. And, Alaska is a hard place to get a VP from-because you still have to win the electoral vote. You don't even get neighboring states that identify with Alaska because it's isolated. One of these days the Republican party might wise up and pick a VP that gets you the electoral votes.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2012 12:30 PM (r2PLg)

158

'...'she was virtually crucified...'

 

Crucifiction?

 

Down the hall, second door on the right.

Posted by: obligatory at January 31, 2012 12:31 PM (h8/7R)

159 Which reminds me of the nice little theory that Palin is one of the main people to blame for our shitty candidates--she, while enriching herself personally, sucked all the air out of the room and left nothing for serious candidates who didn't then bother running.

But, I'm sure she'll tell us how she really cares about the future of America and why she really never intended to run for President and why she never really used her fleeting fame to help the country in "Going Rogue II: How I Almost Considered Running for President But Decided to Get Rich Instead."

Posted by: Jimmuy at January 31, 2012 12:31 PM (7jkW7)

160 I agree with mpfs.

Posted by: Darth Truman at January 31, 2012 12:31 PM (I2LwF)

161 I feel like Donald Sutherland in INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS when he ran into his girlfriend and she screamed.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 31, 2012 05:01 PM (sqkOB)



That's not how that scene went at all.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 31, 2012 12:31 PM (UK9cE)

162 OT per Byron York 68% of FL ads were attacks on Gingrich, 23% anti-Romney, 9% pro-Gingrich. 0.1% were positive Romney ads (per Kantar Media)

Posted by: jeannebodine, SWOD-Bot at January 31, 2012 12:31 PM (byR8d)

163

Falling in love with a political candidate is never a good idea.  I don't care how milfy she is.*

 

*does not apply to Mittlovers, of course...he's just too dreamy. 

Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2012 12:31 PM (TOk1P)

164 "I'll take defeated VP candidates for $400, Alex"

Posted by: Piers Morgan's testicles at January 31, 2012 12:31 PM (UqKQV)

165

>>>trying to stir up some trubble.

 

Fuckin' longbows. How do they work?

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 31, 2012 12:32 PM (puy4B)

166 Maybe with her free time she will work to have those ethic laws changed that she claims caused her to have to resign.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 31, 2012 12:32 PM (QnnIk)

167 I will be truly surprised if she ever runs for office again. I see maybe a couple of years as occassional FNC talking head for her, before she goes off to Match Game celebrity heaven.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 31, 2012 12:32 PM (niZvt)

168 Palin lost me when she quit.



On a completely different note I think SMOD will be too liberal so I am endorsing WWIII/ Super Flu 2012.

Posted by: Elwood Blues at January 31, 2012 12:32 PM (KM86p)

169 Palin's voice and diction have gotten WORSE.  It's not just me,  a lot of the people on another site have noticed it as well.

I supported her until she decided not to run,  and deliberately left the impression that she WOULD run until way to late.  That was inexcusable.  People donated money and time all last summer only to have the rug pulled out from under them.

I feel duped and foolish for thinking she was a serious but unconventional person.  So I don't pay any attention to what she says.  I figure she is pushing Newt out of spite.  And that also pisses me off,  because it is my grandkids' future that hangs in the balance and I don't care HOW much she hates the "establishment."

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 31, 2012 12:32 PM (GoIUi)

170

Posted by: tasker

 

Nobody votes for a VP.  Even those of us who hated McCain and loved Palin would have voted McCain regardless.

Pick a VP to balance the ticket.  Or pick a rising star.

Worst case, pick a troublesome nobody who you need to get out of a legislative structure, or out of a governor's mansion.  Addition by subtraction.

Posted by: Darth Truman at January 31, 2012 12:33 PM (I2LwF)

171

The truth is that if Palin entered the race today, she would take 95% of Newt's votes, 95% of Santorums, 10% of Pauls, and 20% of Mitt's the rest of the way out.

 

That is how much clout she has still.  Not a lame duck but a tigress in waiting.

 

 

Posted by: doug at January 31, 2012 12:33 PM (gUGI6)

172 I think Palin followers been replaced by people who like Space Exploration on the blog's Rage-of-the-Month.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 31, 2012 12:33 PM (z1N6a)

173 Bob 'Tub of Goo' Beckel says Obama killed bin Laden.  So what, Nixon put a man on the moon!

Posted by: ole scratch at January 31, 2012 12:33 PM (+56Bh)

174 sorry, misspelled my mic.

Posted by: jeannebodine, SMOD-Bot at January 31, 2012 12:33 PM (byR8d)

175 I could never figure out what people were talking about when they said Sarah Palin had an accent.

Posted by: mama winger at January 31, 2012 12:33 PM (P6QsQ)

176 Infatuation..doo, doo,.......doo, Infatuation! Isn't that song from the 80's? Who wrote this thread, Andrew Sullivan?

Posted by: ole scratch at January 31, 2012 05:26 PM (+56Bh)



Actually, Rod Stewart.  That's a good song, too.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 31, 2012 12:33 PM (UK9cE)

177 damn sock




Posted by: Mongoose at January 31, 2012 12:34 PM (KM86p)

178 Unless Newt gives her a Cabinet position...

Posted by: epobirs at January 31, 2012 12:34 PM (kcfmt)

179 Steven Blair Price, and everyone, It's generally not a good idea to take the word of a Palin supporter as regards which "lies" about her have been "debunked." http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact- checker/2008/10/four_pinocchios_for_palin.html if you want to read the actual report: http://media.adn.com/smedia/2008/10/10/16/ Branchflowerreport.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf The Branchflower report found she'd acted unethically, and further, did in fact do what she'd publicly denied doing: pressuring Moneghan to fire someone who the Palins had a grudge against. Now, it turns out, she had a legal right to fire him. But rather than do that, she just tried to jawbone a cop into doing her dirty work for her. Vindicated? Sure, right. And this is where most of her legal bills were about -- a matter in which she was fighting the truth.

Posted by: ace at January 31, 2012 12:34 PM (nj1bB)

180 OK, you mean they could have tag-teamed Katie Couric during an interview?

Not necessarily. Granted, many mistakes were made by both during their respective campaigns, but IMO, Perry could have benefitted greatly from a Palin endorsement, since they seemed to be singing from the same hymnal. Shirley she could have seen that and backed him and then we might have a candidate that would at least tap into the sentiment of the TP of getting this Leviathan of a government carved down into a more manageable size. And we wouldn't be stuck with the same shitty choice we had in '08 between two candidates who want to shove the Pineapple of Big Government up our squeakers, only one wants to do it just a bit more slowly than the other one.

It's still a mighty big Pineapple.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 31, 2012 12:34 PM (d0Tfm)

181 All former politicians lose their juice, and all pundits have far less influence than people think. This primary season is a perfect example of that.

"Obama's a shoe in. Romney's inevitable. Newt's campaign died on the launching pad. Palin will definitely run. Cain won't get anywhere. Paul will be a real factor this time."

And so on.

Posted by: Llarry at January 31, 2012 12:34 PM (Rnfm0)

182 The Democrat media machine finally ground her down. They attacked her family, they harassed her out of the Governorship, they unleashed every kind of obscene insult and abuse on her, and after a while it just wore her out.

And after four years of repeating that she's stupid and can't get elected, they've made us believe it, too.

She's a nice lady, smart and honorable. And they destroyed her and laughed. God damn them all.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 31, 2012 12:34 PM (v/XBJ)

183 Romney supporters hate palin for some reason..

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at January 31, 2012 12:34 PM (bAL0J)

184 That is how much clout she has still. Not a lame duck but a tigress in waiting.

Posted by: doug at January 31, 2012 05:33 PM (gUGI6)

 

Wow.  Cognitive Delay much?

Posted by: garrett at January 31, 2012 12:35 PM (h8/7R)

185 billy bob, I do not have an ETA, but he says it's coming along nicely. We should be moving to a new system. I don't know when. He's a very busy guy. "Soon" is all I can guess!

Posted by: ace at January 31, 2012 12:35 PM (nj1bB)

186

>>>she, while enriching herself personally, sucked all the air out of the room and left nothing for serious candidates...

 

Hah! What a sack of crap. Can you offer a single item of anything approaching empirical proof of this? I'll take any damned thing.

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 31, 2012 12:35 PM (puy4B)

187 I guess we will find out when she starts holding rallies again. Sad to say that so many people have bought into the old media's hands though.

Posted by: Auntie Doodles at January 31, 2012 12:35 PM (6uXZa)

188

135.....I disagree with this because few used to complain when I'd attack Romney or whoever.

.

Because Romney is not a pretty woman, Ace.

.

People....mainly guy-people....see a pretty woman being 'attacked', they sort of automatically go into defense mode. ....It's a primal thing. And thank God for it. ....But it can be preyed upon sometimes, when women use it to be 'professional  helpless victims'.


 

Posted by: wheatie at January 31, 2012 12:36 PM (UOOK1)

189 That's not how that scene went at all. Accuracy is overrated.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 31, 2012 12:36 PM (sqkOB)

190 She still has clout.

Posted by: Jornolist at January 31, 2012 12:37 PM (DPdJp)

191 167 74 "Susan Molinari who?" LOL! Saw that ole Yankee on TV somewhere recently. Time has not been kind to her, she is a fat pig. Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at January 31, 2012 05:31 PM (hXJOG) Why do you think I'm banging Mika in the men's room between interviews with assholes like Donny Douche and Eugene Robinson?

Posted by: Joe Scarborough at January 31, 2012 12:37 PM (niZvt)

192  
   Rip her some more. This surely can't be the A game. I expect the vitriol to exceed the KOS kiddies venom. 

   Step it up, gang.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 31, 2012 12:37 PM (SAMxH)

193

She's a nice lady, smart and honorable. And they destroyed her and laughed. God damn them all.


 

Careful with your 'theys'. Seems a lot of people on this website are so godawful embarassed to be in the same party with that hick, they cannot stand to see her breath.

Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 31, 2012 12:37 PM (Ci0JG)

194 I'll never forgive her for making that guy in Arizona shoot the CONGRESSWOMAN and oh, some other less important people 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 31, 2012 12:37 PM (Ec6wH)

195
I shoulda said...

This reminds me of that scene in Requiem For a Dream.


Posted by: Soothsayer at January 31, 2012 12:37 PM (sqkOB)

196 Who is a major player? Even the candidates don't feel like major players right now. Conservatism feels like a rudderless looking for a commander to take the helm and actually lead as a conservative.

Posted by: Drew in MO at January 31, 2012 12:37 PM (HY/eU)

197 It seems that way to me now. I don't listen to her either way anymore.

Pretty impressive comment.  Would be even more impressive if you ever had paid any attention to her.

Thing about her - she is a true, honest-to-god conservative.  And she's articulate (even if you don't like her voice).  She thinks creatively and is a leader.  Other than that - those that never did like her probably won't start now.

Posted by: Looks Like We're in for Nasty Weather at January 31, 2012 12:37 PM (eMtQ2)

198 We'll know she is yesterday's news if she doesn't get a prime time speaking slot at the Republican Convention, which she is not going to get.

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2012 12:38 PM (i6RpT)

199 Richard Nixon was politically dead in 1962 ("won't have Nixon to kick around any more").
Then became President in 1968

Posted by: Authur Laffer at January 31, 2012 12:38 PM (e8kgV)

200
>>>Down the hall, second door on the right.

What movie was that from?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk, team smod recruit at January 31, 2012 12:38 PM (XrrP7)

201 O/T TheFix Allen West is running for re-election in the new 18th district! http://t.co/kuAQaof7

Posted by: M80B at January 31, 2012 12:38 PM (d6QMz)

202 198 "She still has clout." Posted by: Jornolist at January 31, 2012 05:37 PM (DPdJp) I thought she switched to palmolive?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 31, 2012 12:38 PM (niZvt)

203 >>Boycotting the Superbowl, what you can do instead.

Don't you mean boycotting halftime?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 31, 2012 12:38 PM (QMtmy)

204

Palin lost me when she had the rally in Iowa where she was supposed to announce but didn't or wasn't supposed and did or whatever the hell happened there.

 

 

Posted by: robtr at January 31, 2012 12:38 PM (MtwBb)

205 I will always support her.

Posted by: Jornolist at January 31, 2012 12:39 PM (DPdJp)

206

 I guess we will find out when she starts holding rallies again.

 

She held rallies like I played Central Park with Paul Simon in 1991.

 

Posted by: garrett at January 31, 2012 12:39 PM (h8/7R)

207 I think she's taking a respite to get away from all the bile and death threats against her and her entire family.  I think she'll be coming back into the political arena in a few years.  For what office, I wouldn't want to say.  But she'll be back. 

Posted by: Soona at January 31, 2012 12:39 PM (7uUng)

208

I guess I'll hold out for Palin running for President in 2014. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 31, 2012 12:39 PM (Ec6wH)

209 Reading these comments I'm convinced its our own fault we are stuck with the candidates we have. For the love of Christ. Every candidate that has spoken about our true conservative principles we have excoriated. Perry, Palin, Cain, Bachmann etc. The very reason that people hate these people, is the media narrative that has been set and now we are spouting it word for word. Good God we are robots. And then we wonder why people like Ryan won't run. Does he want to be treated this way by the fuckin base? I'll be in my bunk....

Posted by: TendStl at January 31, 2012 12:39 PM (8lu7U)

210 Eh, who the hell can blame Palin for choosing celebrity over politics?   Got herself a nice house in Phoenix, good money from the books she wrote yada yada.  

 Palin, George Will .....  they occasionally will say or write something I agree with but I'll make my own decisions on who to vote for or contribute to campaigns etc.   Of course I currently feel even stronger that way towards most of the RNC people, thats why I hang out at the HQ.

Posted by: Palerider at January 31, 2012 12:39 PM (dkExz)

211 Accuracy is overrated.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 31, 2012 05:36 PM (sqkOB)




Heh.  How liberal of you.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 31, 2012 12:40 PM (UK9cE)

212 i for one am sure glad those hicks aren't in the race.that Perry sure seemed retarded didn't he? shudder, so Bush like and all. and fat holy cow Newt, lay of the wine and quit the cheeseburgers. sure am glad we have a real handsome devil running now.

Posted by: willow at January 31, 2012 12:40 PM (TomZ9)

213 Maybe Republicans wouldn't have so much trouble picking a candidate if we didn't let Democrats eliminate people.

Posted by: Trimegistus at January 31, 2012 12:40 PM (v/XBJ)

214 177
The truth is that if Palin entered the race today, she would take 95% of Newt's votes, 95% of Santorums, 10% of Pauls, and 20% of Mitt's the rest of the way out.

That is how much clout she has still. Not a lame duck but a tigress in waiting.

Posted by: doug at January 31, 2012 05:33 PM (gUGI6)

Yeah, I wrote those exact same numbers for myself on a napkin too. Then I actually had the balls to run . . . .

Sigh.

Posted by: Rick Perry at January 31, 2012 12:40 PM (7jkW7)

215 Palin has a plan and is a force of good.

Posted by: Jornolist at January 31, 2012 12:40 PM (DPdJp)

216

She still has clout


That's what doug was just telling us.

Posted by: fluffy tiger, hidden dragoon at January 31, 2012 12:41 PM (O6q63)

217
>>>>We'll know she is yesterday's news if she doesn't get a prime time speaking slot at the Republican Convention, which she is not going to get.

You got that right, no way with the dede romney nomination.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk, team smod recruit at January 31, 2012 12:41 PM (XrrP7)

218
It was the other way around, wasn't it?

Donald Sutherland was the one who pointed and screamed.


Posted by: Soothsayer at January 31, 2012 12:41 PM (sqkOB)

219 OT but shoe in?
Really? Shoo! Child!

Posted by: Pecos at January 31, 2012 12:41 PM (2Gb0y)

220
And he was pointing and screaming at Brian Dennehy, not his girlfriend.


Posted by: Soothsayer at January 31, 2012 12:41 PM (sqkOB)

221 She's a nice lady, smart and honorable. And they destroyed her and laughed. God damn them all. --------------------- Ahhhh, Palin's a multi-millionaire. I wish the Democrats would destroy me like that.

Posted by: Helpful Pundit at January 31, 2012 12:42 PM (nMROO)

222 Meanwhile Drudge has the flashing light that Romney is nearing a majority in Florida exit polls at 46%. According to the exit polls he has more votes that Newt and Santorum combined.

Posted by: robtr at January 31, 2012 12:42 PM (MtwBb)

223

She still has clout

 

Yeah!  Look at all the people who showed up to see her at the Daytona 500.  I'll bet they have a hard time selling tickets to that thing next year if Sarah isn't going...

Posted by: garrett at January 31, 2012 12:42 PM (h8/7R)

224 Yes she is. And she's also sounding more sensible lately, which is ironic. Too little too late.

Posted by: Random at January 31, 2012 12:42 PM (YiE0S)

225 Is Palin A Lame Duck?


Translation:
ARISE! Palinistas! I call fourth the army of the Grizzly Momma to march upon this thread!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 31, 2012 12:42 PM (0q2P7)

226 They must hate kosher food in Florida.

Posted by: robtr at January 31, 2012 12:42 PM (MtwBb)

227 Hey this threads old, can we get another one? How about, "Thomas Sowell: retarded or just insane?"

Posted by: runninrebel at January 31, 2012 12:42 PM (RiKcH)

228 Palin is shoring up her finances as she should do and is giving Todd more of a presence. The Palins are good people.

Posted by: Jornolist at January 31, 2012 12:43 PM (DPdJp)

229 And then we wonder why people like Ryan won't run. Does he want to be treated this way by the fuckin base?

And then we wonder why people like Ryan won't run. Does he want to be treated this way by the fuckin base?

And then we wonder why people like Ryan won't run. Does he want to be treated this way by the fuckin base?




Sorry. ..... got carried away there for a moment

Posted by: mama winger at January 31, 2012 12:43 PM (P6QsQ)

230 From Wiki : The Branchflower report did not recommend a criminal investigation or sanctions. Under Alaska law, the state's Personnel Board, not the Legislature, decides whether a Governor has violated the ethics laws. On November 3, 2008, the bi-partisan Alaska State Personnel Board released the findings of its own investigation which concluded that Palin did not violate any ethics laws

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 31, 2012 12:43 PM (lVGED)

231 She's Peking at the right time

Posted by: Cricket at January 31, 2012 12:43 PM (DrC22)

232 194
>>>she, while enriching herself personally, sucked all the air out of the room and left nothing for serious candidates...

Hah! What a sack of crap. Can you offer a single item of anything approaching empirical proof of this? I'll take any damned thing.

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 31, 2012 05:35 PM (puy4B)


You mean the whole "send me funds for my sorta gonna think about running for President fund" and the multi-state bus tour and the all the speaking events where it was leaked that she may be making her announcement? All that never happened?

OK.

Posted by: Jimmuy at January 31, 2012 12:44 PM (7jkW7)

233 Is Buddy Roemer still running for Prez? Maybe if it comes down to two people she'll throw her support behind him or something.

Just pick someone and stick with it, stop trying to milk the limelight.

Posted by: ArcadeHero at January 31, 2012 12:44 PM (mmHDH)

234 I think he was pointing at her and making that shrill noise while she was just cowering in fear and crying.  I thought the end was the camera zooming in on his mouth then went black, or something. 

It's been awhile.  I know she walked up on him and revealed that she wasn't one of them and he did his best Obama and threw her straight under the bus.

Posted by: © Sponge at January 31, 2012 12:44 PM (UK9cE)

235

Romney's a MILF.

 

Mitts I'd Like to Forget.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream, Cultist for Jesus at January 31, 2012 12:44 PM (epBek)

236

Is this a lame post?  Yes.

Is Palin a lame duck?  No.  Unless you want to set up some random criteria by which to find that yes, totally, lame duck citay.  Quack.

Posted by: AMartel at January 31, 2012 12:44 PM (1Bqk7)

237 AHOY!

Posted by: PALINISTO! at January 31, 2012 12:45 PM (h8/7R)

238

209
>>>Down the hall, second door on the right.

.

What movie was that from?
.

------

.

Fifth Element. ...."Weddings? Down the hall, second door on the right" [iirc]

Posted by: wheatie at January 31, 2012 12:45 PM (UOOK1)

239

re: shrill voice - her voice got annoying once I stopped listening to the content of her speech.  I stopped listening to what she was saying because it became similar to things she had already said, or was overly generic.

Libs and Hillary PUMAs who bitched about her voice from the start were never listening to what she was saying.  All they heard was a voice, and declined to let their brains actually translate her speaking into actual words.

Posted by: reason at January 31, 2012 12:45 PM (5npD/)

240

Palin will have had no effect on the election of 2012.

Unless Romney loses -- in which case she will blamed for the loss.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 31, 2012 12:45 PM (3wBRE)

241 Or how about: "Does Eric Laffer Really Know Anything About Economics?"

Posted by: runninrebel at January 31, 2012 12:45 PM (RiKcH)

242 mama, yeah , everyone that enters gets their time in the flames . may the best man win.
but likely not.

Posted by: willow at January 31, 2012 12:45 PM (TomZ9)

243 I really do like Palin.  But she isn't in the hunt this time around and I've accepted that.  We make do with the hand that we've dealt to ourselves.  Mitt and Newt?  No one to blame but us.

Posted by: Soona at January 31, 2012 12:45 PM (7uUng)

244 >>"Palin threads just don't have the same juice they used to."

Overexposure. By which I mean not Palin but Palin threads.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 31, 2012 12:45 PM (QMtmy)

245

>Down the hall, second door on the right..
What movie was that from?.

 

Revenge of the Nerds.

Posted by: garrett at January 31, 2012 12:46 PM (h8/7R)

246 231 Meanwhile Drudge has the flashing light that Romney isnearing a majority in Florida exit polls at 46%. According to the exit polls he has more votes that Newt and Santorum combined. You know who THAT helps, right?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 31, 2012 12:46 PM (niZvt)

247

You guys all have your heads in the sand. Who got twenty out of thirty seats elected that she backed in 2010?

Do you think she is not working the Senate seats for our TEA Party favor? That is a far more important job than running for president.

Posted by: Reckless Process at January 31, 2012 12:46 PM (f7ylG)

248 Mamma Grizzly throws out the gender card like she's playing Uno.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 31, 2012 12:46 PM (QnnIk)

249

>Down the hall, second door on the right..
What movie was that from?.

 

No, wait...maybe it was Old Yeller...I forget, now.

Posted by: garrett at January 31, 2012 12:46 PM (h8/7R)

250 Oh that was the other stupid thing McCain did- he actually thought he would get the PUMA vote.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2012 12:47 PM (r2PLg)

251 255 231 Meanwhile Drudge has the flashing light that Romney isnearing a majority in Florida exit polls at 46%. According to the exit polls he has more votes that Newt and Santorum combined.


You know who THAT helps, right?

Allahpundit?

Posted by: Looks Like We're in for Nasty Weather at January 31, 2012 12:47 PM (eMtQ2)

252 Is Palin irrelevant?   Short answer:  Not hardly.

Posted by: Pragmatic at January 31, 2012 12:47 PM (z8Cts)

253 sorry, misspelled my mic.Posted by: jeannebodine

He's probably passed out in a pile of his own sick so I don't think he'll mind.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 31, 2012 12:47 PM (+Jr2Z)

254 ...then suspended his campaign.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2012 12:47 PM (r2PLg)

255 The Life of Brian

Posted by: Piers Morgan's testicles at January 31, 2012 12:48 PM (UqKQV)

256 @209 - Life of Brian?  Down the hall, second door on the right.  One cross each.

Posted by: reason at January 31, 2012 12:48 PM (5npD/)

257 jennifer Rubin have a nice bedtime smile?

Posted by: willow at January 31, 2012 12:48 PM (TomZ9)

258 I would remind people of Joe McGinnis and all of the terrible vitriol and lies Palin has endured. Palin is a fighter and very shrewd and is a good person.

Posted by: Jornolist at January 31, 2012 12:48 PM (DPdJp)

259

240 She's Peking at the right time Posted by: Cricket


Oh, duck off and fie.

Posted by: imp at January 31, 2012 12:48 PM (UaxA0)

260 Exit polls down here? I was the only one in my polling room, besides the workers, that is.

There I was, outnumbered, filling in the oval as fast as I could. Slowly they turned, step by step, inch by inch...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 31, 2012 12:48 PM (d0Tfm)

261 I like Sarah Palin and I hope she continues to fight the good fight, but I'm just not sure anymore that she would make a good president.  Maybe she could take over when Rush Limbaugh retires.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 31, 2012 12:48 PM (i0App)

262

You know, I picked up something on Paul Ryan this weekend--I was watching the tail end of his interview with Chris Wallace on Fox, and at the end, they gave him a nice cake for his birthday.  Instead of being gracious about it, he said "I don't eat sweets" and seemed bothered about it--I personally thought it a bit rude.  I get the feeling he's too Calvin Coolidge for post-Bill Clinton politics.   

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 31, 2012 12:49 PM (Ec6wH)

263 "Is Nancy Reagan A Total Crazy Or What?"

Posted by: runninrebel at January 31, 2012 12:49 PM (RiKcH)

264 willow -  sadly, some here were calling Paul Ryan a coward who didn't really care about his country, and saying his choice to not enter this insane madhouse while his children were still very small "a selfish excuse".

Seriously.  I remember it.

Posted by: mama winger at January 31, 2012 12:49 PM (P6QsQ)

265 Whathappenedtomypost? 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 31, 2012 12:49 PM (Ec6wH)

266 OT:  From {shiver} Hot Air

Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio today will introduce "The Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 2012." A bill that would reverse the Obama administration's recent confirmation of its decision to force religious employers  - in conflict with their religious beliefs - to provide employees with insurance that would cover contraceptives and abortifacients.

Posted by: mpfs at January 31, 2012 12:49 PM (iYbLN)

267 It still amazes me that the mere mention of her name will send my liberal friends into convulsions of fear and hatred. Obama is their St. Nicholas. She is the Krampus.

Posted by: Mr Fever Head at January 31, 2012 12:50 PM (SzAZ7)

268

Down the hall, second door on the right.. What movie was that from?

It's not from Monty Python?

"This is getting hit on the head lessons. Arguments is..."

Posted by: fluffy python's frying circuits at January 31, 2012 12:50 PM (O6q63)

269 Ya know Hillary looks like shit. Just saying

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2012 12:50 PM (i6RpT)

270 Yikes.  That Paul Ryan cake thing is bad.

Posted by: Darth Truman at January 31, 2012 12:50 PM (I2LwF)

271
>>>>How about, "Thomas Sowell: retarded or just insane?"

Exactly, but I think next up is supposed to be Friedrich von Hayek: dumb or dumber?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk, team smod recruit at January 31, 2012 12:51 PM (XrrP7)

272 @241: yeah, no shit. WTF does a millionairesse with no intention of running for anything need to bilk little old ladies on Social Security for "contributions" to her PAC for? Is that a "PAC to Nowhere"?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 31, 2012 12:51 PM (niZvt)

273

Splitters!!!

Posted by: imp at January 31, 2012 12:51 PM (UaxA0)

274 How about ," Are John Bolton and Robert Bork really RINOs?"

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 31, 2012 12:51 PM (QnnIk)

275 mama, I wouldn't wish the experience on anyone i cared about, you'd have to have a lot of power - money to shut bullshit down.

Posted by: willow at January 31, 2012 12:52 PM (TomZ9)

276 Nope, her only shot was this election while people were still pissed about the treatment she got in '08, 4 years from now she'll be a footnote.

Posted by: booger at January 31, 2012 12:52 PM (29wvc)

277 Drudge - is slipping.

Posted by: Jornolist at January 31, 2012 12:52 PM (DPdJp)

278 Yikes. That Paul Ryan cake thing is bad.

Posted by: Darth Truman at January 31, 2012 05:50 PM (I2LwF)

 

The cake was a model of a US Dollar. Expect the democrats to be running the vid of him cutting it this year. Greedy republicans

 

Chris Wallace even said after it was over that he goes through alot to get the photo op.

Posted by: robtr at January 31, 2012 12:53 PM (MtwBb)

279

Ace has nothing to blog about?  How about a thread on how the Senate caved in to another deficit increase?

Of one TRILLION.  Again.

Posted by: imp at January 31, 2012 12:54 PM (UaxA0)

280 Slipping?

Posted by: Darth Truman at January 31, 2012 12:54 PM (I2LwF)

281

Mr. Ace, I'm here to remind you that all the Palin plinking in the world is not going to make anyone forget how you, above all, put the Beatlemania in Perrywanking.

A cringeworthy few weeks indeed and you'll never live it down or stop blaming Sarah for the swoon of ol' SuperRick!

Posted by: njinfl at January 31, 2012 12:54 PM (SKSDk)

282 Drudge has been stale by comparison of prior work.

Posted by: Jornolist at January 31, 2012 12:55 PM (DPdJp)

283 You don't act like a cranky old sourpuss when someone gives you a birthday cake.  If they're being insensitive by giving you something you dislike, you say "thanks" and then don't eat any.  Dumb.

Posted by: Darth Truman at January 31, 2012 12:55 PM (I2LwF)

284

well at least from the looks of this thread, Palin's not that much of a polarizing figure anymore. I remember the days when a Palin thread resulted in much hair-pulling, cock-punching and copious letting of blood.

In other news: Rubio introduced legislation that would allow religious organizations to opt out of Obamacare mandate on the basis of conscience.

Posted by: kallisto at January 31, 2012 12:55 PM (jm/9g)

285
Absolutely no comparison. Nixon WAS the vice president for EIGHT years, Palin was a candidate for four months. Nixon was elected President in 1960, until Chicago and West Texas stole the election.

I knew Tricky Dick and Sarah Palin is no Dick.

Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at January 31, 2012 05:50 PM (hXJOG)

Learn your history - the quote is from his speech two years after all that, losing the CA Gov election.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 31, 2012 12:56 PM (z1N6a)

286 Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2012 05:50 PM (i6RpT)

It's women like Hillary who make me vaguely nauseous for being a man and unable to tamp down the automatic "Would I, or would I not do her?" that pops up in my head every time I see a woman.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 31, 2012 12:56 PM (nEUpB)

287

Let's not forget that she has a young son with Down syndrome who needs the support of his family.

 

And a grandchild.  And there will undoubtedly be more of those in the years to come.

 

Her parents aren't getting any younger (and there were believable threats made against them, as well).

 

There's a REASON many women don't go for the high-level jobs, whatever the profession.  The time and effort required just aren't worth the payoff.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at January 31, 2012 12:57 PM (0xqzf)

288 292 Ace has nothing to blog about? How about a thread on how the Senate caved in to another deficit increase?

Of one TRILLION. Again.


>They had given him $900B but not the $1.2T installment. The sequester will supposedly pay for it.

Posted by: M80B at January 31, 2012 12:57 PM (d6QMz)

289 imp, well you know vacays are needed and unions heads, green things  palms greased, things are mighty expensive for the dems to keep power.
nice to know Republicans are tough at fighting them. a who cares.
SMOD

Posted by: willow at January 31, 2012 12:57 PM (TomZ9)

290 From Palin to Drudge is stale subtext. It's all in the subtext oh, and the footnotes.

Posted by: Jornolist at January 31, 2012 12:57 PM (DPdJp)

291 Up next on AoS Evenings:  Was Newt Just Gaming the System Back When He Endorsed Dede Scuzzafava?

Posted by: reason at January 31, 2012 12:57 PM (5npD/)

292

"mpfs at January 31, 2012 05:49 PM (iYbLN)"

oops didn't see it 

Posted by: kallisto at January 31, 2012 12:57 PM (jm/9g)

293 It's women like Hillary who make me vaguely nauseous for being a man and unable to tamp down the automatic "Would I, or would I not do her?" that pops up in my head every time I see a woman. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 31, 2012 05:56 PM (nEUpB) I can honestly say that I have NEVER had that thought when seeing hillary.

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2012 12:58 PM (i6RpT)

294

I could be off base with the whole Ryan thing--don't mean to stir up antipathy toward my friend from behind the Cheddar Curtain. 

For my birthday, I'll get to watch Barack Obama get reelected. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 31, 2012 12:58 PM (Ec6wH)

295 I knew Tricky Dick and Sarah Palin is no Dick.
Posted by: Billy Bob, pseudo-intellectual at January 31, 2012 05:50 PM

I see what you did there....

In the beginning, Nixon was a U.S. Representative, then a Senator. While he was in the Senate, Ike noticed him and reached out to him to be VP. Tricky Dick never quit office in the middle of a term 'til the end, not the beginning.

The only person with less experience on the national stage than Palin was the stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure. Look where that got us.

Posted by: MrScribbler at January 31, 2012 12:59 PM (tkd/a)

296 OT: Looks like the Komen has "suspended" their partnership with Planned Parenthood until Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla concludes his investigation.

Win for the good guys and double kudos for using their own tactics against them.

Elections do have consequences.

Posted by: Jimmuy at January 31, 2012 12:59 PM (7jkW7)

297 Juicy BBQ chicken breasts just about done grilling. February in NC rules.

Posted by: lincolntf at January 31, 2012 12:59 PM (hiMsy)

298 Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio today will introduce "The Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 2012." A bill that would reverse the Obama administration's recent confirmation of its decision to force religious employers - in conflict with their religious beliefs - to provide employees with insurance that would cover contraceptives and abortifacients.

Posted by: mpfs at January 31, 2012 05:49 PM (iYbLN)

 

---------------------------------

 

I was thinking of this today.  If Rubio can get this passed and into law, this opens the door to many more "modifications" of Ocare.  Perhaps the mandate itself. 

 

BUT most of my hope regarding Ocare is in the SCOTUS.  I'm not sure Romney or Newt would completely repeal this POS law.

Posted by: Soona at January 31, 2012 12:59 PM (7uUng)

299 In other news: Rubio introduced legislation that would allow religious organizations to opt out of Obamacare mandate on the basis of conscience.

Thanks Rubio. We had a chance to galvanize opposition to teh won. And you giftwrapped a way out of his most serious political miscalculation since Obamacare. I hope you made it a big enough pill that the dems can't choke it down. But if it's a simple the-minimum-necessary-to-get-the-church-off-my-back bill you're not doing us any favors.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 31, 2012 12:59 PM (0q2P7)

300 I'll still walk through a fire-melting-steel wall for Ryan.

Posted by: Darth Truman at January 31, 2012 01:00 PM (I2LwF)

301 Yep.  Ryan didn't want cake.  He's done for.  NEXT !!

Posted by: mama winger at January 31, 2012 01:00 PM (P6QsQ)

302 Paul Ryan:  Too sweet for cake?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk, team smod recruit at January 31, 2012 01:00 PM (XrrP7)

303 您 是 所 有 蠢 货,并 且 您 吹 了 您 的 机 会

Posted by: Jon Huntsman at January 31, 2012 01:00 PM (QKKT0)

304 "Every time I hear her on Fox News it's like she's talking to 5th grade kids. . ."

Um . . . well . . .

. . .

In other news . . .

Prepare to embrace your new Mormon Overlords . . .

Posted by: filbert at January 31, 2012 01:01 PM (smvTK)

305 Thanks Rubio. We had a chance to galvanize opposition to teh won. And you giftwrapped a way out of his most serious political miscalculation since Obamacare. I hope you made it a big enough pill that the dems can't choke it down. But if it's a simple the-minimum-necessary-to-get-the-church-off-my-back bill you're not doing us any favors.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 31, 2012 05:59 PM

 

 

Thread Winner

Posted by: Darth Truman at January 31, 2012 01:01 PM (I2LwF)

306

291 The cake was amodel of a US Dollar. Expect the democrats to be running the vid of him cutting it this year. Greedy republicans

 

------------

 

The cringeworthy part was when Paul Ryan said "we need to make more of these for the taxpayers; dollars I mean".

 

Luap Nor would be spinning in his grave if he were dead.

Posted by: Anachronda at January 31, 2012 01:01 PM (FzhYM)

307

sheeeitt! How dumb do the Demotards think we are?

(link at my nic).

Posted by: maddogg at January 31, 2012 01:01 PM (OlN4e)

308 It's women like Hillary who make me vaguely nauseous for being a man and unable to tamp down the automatic "Would I, or would I not do her?" that pops up in my head every time I see a woman.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 31, 2012 05:56 PM (nEUpB)

I can honestly say that I have NEVER had that thought when seeing hillary.


How much is she paying?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 31, 2012 01:02 PM (0q2P7)

309
Allen West and Marco Rubio: To white for the GOP?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk, team smod recruit at January 31, 2012 01:02 PM (XrrP7)

310

No way, man.  She keeps me hard as diamond.

Wait, what?  Sorry, thought you said "limp dick."

Posted by: Sharkman at January 31, 2012 01:02 PM (RtpCp)

311 Wait, Hillary is a woman?

Posted by: Mr Fever Head at January 31, 2012 01:03 PM (SzAZ7)

312 Fox is gonna tell us what the voters are saying as the come out of the voting? I already know: 1) ooy mildred think we can still make it to the 50% of entrees special? 2) murry did you hear who died this morning? 3) Did I tell you my grandson is in medical school? 4) i voted for FDR like I always do

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2012 01:03 PM (i6RpT)

313  Up next on AoS Evenings: Was Newt Just Gaming the System Back When He Endorsed Dede Scuzzafava?

Posted by: reason at January 31, 2012 05:57 PM (5npD/)

 

----------------------------------

 

And the first post of the morning will be:  Is Christine O'Donnell a good witch or a bad witch?

Posted by: Soona at January 31, 2012 01:03 PM (7uUng)

314 I could be off base with the whole Ryan thing--don't mean to stir up antipathy toward my friend from behind the Cheddar Curtain.Posted by: Big Fat Meanie

Well, it's certainly on topic for a big, fat nothing-burger of a thread.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 31, 2012 01:03 PM (+Jr2Z)

315 #312 MiketheMoose you're one of those CAVEman conservatives aren't you? Complain About Virtually Everything.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 31, 2012 01:03 PM (QnnIk)

316 296 You don't act like a cranky old sourpuss when someone gives you a birthday cake. If they're being insensitive by giving you something you dislike, you say "thanks" and then don't eat any. Dumb.

> I think he thought he was supposed to eat it. He is strict about his diet for a reason but he would have been better-off just saying "no thanks".

Posted by: M80B at January 31, 2012 01:04 PM (d6QMz)

317 324 Wait, Hillary is a woman? Posted by: Mr Fever Head at January 31, 2012 06:03 PM (SzAZ7) In th loosest sense ofbthe word... I guess.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 31, 2012 01:04 PM (niZvt)

318 If you aren't working to get Palin elected President, then you want America to be like Iran.

Posted by: FUBAR at January 31, 2012 01:04 PM (mdhVr)

319 >>Rubio introduced legislation that would allow religious
organizations to opt out of Obamacare mandate on the basis of
conscience.<<

I thought Muslims were already exempt. Something about sharia finance forbidding insurance.

Posted by: HeatherRadish needs a beer at January 31, 2012 01:04 PM (ZKzrr)

320 I can honestly say that I have NEVER had that thought when seeing hillary.

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2012 05:58 PM (i6RpT)


Oh...bullshit. It's automatic. Even before the brain recognizes the sheer horror of the thought, the evaluation occurs.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 31, 2012 01:05 PM (nEUpB)

321 Rubio's behavior makes perfect sense.  He thinks Romney will be the next president.  Norm Coleman is right that this means Obamacare is here to stay.  Sure, romney fans find this conclusion frustrating, as it suggests Romney is lying (which is correct; that's what I'm saying).

Anyway, if we're stuck with a RINO president and Obamacare, then it would be nice to have some way to opt out.  With the preexisting conditions crap, insurance will fail either way.  Sadly, MA is into rationing now, and soon the entire country will be.

Not sure what I can say... it's not the RINOs' fault, though.  They are what they are.  It's the conservatives seeking excuses to reject the most conservative shots they have... it's not constructive, it's vain, and it's what's wrong with the GOP.

Posted by: Dustin at January 31, 2012 01:05 PM (wcT+8)

322 278 Down the hall, second door on the right.. What movie was that from?

It's not from Monty Python? "This is getting hit on the head lessons. Arguments is..."
  -----------   Given the subject, it should have been "out the door, line on the left, one cross each".  

Posted by: Anachronda is a whiny pedant at January 31, 2012 01:05 PM (NmR1a)

323 When the debate turns to whether Hillary is a woman, the thread is dead.

Posted by: Dr Spank - Romney has no Soul at January 31, 2012 01:06 PM (lVGED)

324 if you want to read the actual report: You’re right. Branchflower did say that. I apologize. I tried to follow it when it came out, but it was difficult to follow because it is just images of text. Note, though, that the “Palin supporter’s blog” (it’s my blog) is also correct: Monegan, who claims that he knew from the Governor and from the investigation that Wooten had threatened to kill Palin’s father, presented Governor Palin with Wooten’s photo at the last minute to sign for a ceremony the next day.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 31, 2012 01:06 PM (QF8uk)

325 Heather - they are.  The muslims are exempt as are the Amish and I think the Christian Scientists.

Just not Catholics.

Posted by: mama winger at January 31, 2012 01:06 PM (P6QsQ)

326 Michelle Obama would have eaten the cake.  Barack would be like Milton from Office Space. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 31, 2012 01:06 PM (Ec6wH)

327 316 您 是 所 有 蠢 货,并 且 您 吹 了 您 的 机 会 Posted by: Jon Huntsman at January 31, 2012 06:00 PM (QKKT0) 2016, Jon? Yeah, it'll be your turn.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 31, 2012 01:07 PM (niZvt)

328 i like amish furniture, maybe i'll give it a try.

Posted by: willow at January 31, 2012 01:08 PM (TomZ9)

329 Good lord. You princesses just don't like pussy, do you?

Yeah, she should have run, and yeah, unlikely she would have won. But she would have have built up a big support base that she could have handed over to Perry.

And then we would have won. By having an actual executive who believes in limited government and gosh...talked about overturning the 16th amendment. Man is a God dam hero.

And yeah, she stepped on her dick by staying out of it. And now Rominy Grits are served up...luke warm of course. Well not quite luke warm. But not cool. Whatever temperature is puke is. Well, puke that has been hiding around in a corner somewhere for days. God he sucks. Why are we fighting cancer with Centrum Silver?


 

Posted by: Commenter at January 31, 2012 01:08 PM (xHenH)

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Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 31, 2012 01:08 PM (QMtmy)

331

Posted by: Anachronda is a whiny pedant at January 31, 2012 06:05 PM (NmR1a)

 

We already went over the accuracy issue...stop bringing up old shit.

Posted by: garrett at January 31, 2012 01:09 PM (h8/7R)

332 Darrell Issa writes letter to Eric Holder, warning him he could face contempt charges (http://tinyurl.com/6nwgym

Posted by: M80B at January 31, 2012 01:09 PM (d6QMz)

333 @330 In th loosest sense ofbthe word... I guess. Well crap, how long before we find out that the dude in charge of Homeland Security has been banging her?

Posted by: Mr Fever Head at January 31, 2012 01:10 PM (SzAZ7)

334 345 -> http://tinyurl.com/6nwgym8

Posted by: M80B at January 31, 2012 01:10 PM (d6QMz)

335 342

You're right. That's why I'm voting for Sofia Vergara for President. That'll prove how manly I am....

Posted by: packsoldier at January 31, 2012 01:13 PM (7/Cwy)

336

I like Palin I always have, her desire to use every adjective in the dictionary describing every noun that comes out of her mouth drives me nuts but I've always been a fan.

 

When she decided not to run I lost interest. She's a pundit now, no better or worse than the rest of them.

Posted by: robtr at January 31, 2012 01:13 PM (MtwBb)

337 341 i like amish furniture, maybe i'll give it a try.
 

Posted by: willow at January 31, 2012 06:08 PM (TomZ9)

 

Hmmm... interesting question.  What is the LEGAL definition of belonging to a religion?  Profess you are part? Do you have to attend services?   Could I be Amish just by saying I am? or is there some Legal hurdle?

Posted by: Some Kardashian at January 31, 2012 01:14 PM (lZBBB)

338 #312 MiketheMoose you're one of those CAVEman conservatives aren't you? Complain About Virtually Everything.

I admit the primary has got me down a bit so I'm a little more pessimistic in general BUT, this just seems like a HUGE tactical FAIL to me. You know a clear violation of

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

Republicans just had to shut up: Let the dems introduce the legislation, and alienate their base, or not do it, and alienate the Catholics. Letting the dems deal with their own mess was full of win for our side. Why give them a "Republicans MADE us do it" out?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at January 31, 2012 01:14 PM (0q2P7)

339  Darrell Issa writes letter to Eric Holder, warning him he could face contempt charges (http://tinyurl.com/6nwgym

Posted by: M80B at January 31, 2012 06:09 PM (d6QMz)

 

-----------------------------------

 

I hope it was delivered by two very large, burly US Marshalls.

Posted by: Soona at January 31, 2012 01:15 PM (7uUng)

340 Can we get a little SMOD for this thread?

Posted by: dogfish at January 31, 2012 01:15 PM (N2yhW)

341 Yeah, I've had better. But whatcha gonna do? . . . Oh. You said duck.

Posted by: Todd Palin at January 31, 2012 01:16 PM (CITCI)

342

<i188 The Democrat media machine finally ground her down. They attacked her family, they harassed her out of the Governorship, they unleashed every kind of obscene insult and abuse on her, and after a while it just wore her out.

And after four years of repeating that she's stupid and can't get elected, they've made us believe it, too.

She's a nice lady, smart and honorable. And they destroyed her and laughed. God damn them all./i>

 

She also had that nutcase rent the house next door for a year, spying on her and her family in order to write a hit job book.  After what she and her family have been through, at least she was able to make some cash on her own books and that TV gig.  What else is she going to do for a living?  Go back to the fishing boat? 

Posted by: Boots at January 31, 2012 01:16 PM (neKzn)

343

>>>The cringeworthy part was when Paul Ryan said "we need to make more of these for the taxpayers; dollars I mean".

 

Yeah, forget about Ryan. He's toast.

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 31, 2012 01:16 PM (puy4B)

344 : Some Kardashian,
I would think there should be no hurtle, as the President thought it awful to prove anything to us, why aren't we held to the same standards? or lack of?

Posted by: willow at January 31, 2012 01:16 PM (TomZ9)

345 F&F featured now on Fox

Posted by: Darth Truman at January 31, 2012 01:17 PM (I2LwF)

346 I personally love Mooselini, Bible Spice, Caribou Barbie, whatever her name is today.

She is great entertainment.

"Katie, what do you mean by read?"

Posted by: Clarence at January 31, 2012 01:17 PM (z0HdK)

347 In truth she was always overrated. The hatred from the other side forced alot of us to root for her. I think that oddly allowed her to extend her time in the spotlight, much to our detriment I might add.

In the end, her story is cautionary tale. Do not pluck the fruit from the Conservative tree until it is ripe else it will taste like shit even though it looked appetizing. Palin was never near ready for the spot McCain gave her and she made a fool of herself and the party for accepting it.

Sadly she still hasn't done her homework since and hasn't improved much.  She goes on TV spouting obvious stuff that has already been said better by other pundits before her. Watching her talk extemporaneously is like watching a tight rope walker without a net.

You know she is going to say something bordering on the retarded, it just a matter of when.   Her delivery and her voice have gotten beyond irritating. If it wasn't for her "hot librarian" looks and charisma early on, she never would have made a ripple on the political scene.

Posted by: Ken Royall at January 31, 2012 01:17 PM (9zzk+)

348 Yeah, if we all say we're muslim, what?  Are they gonna come check?

Posted by: mama winger at January 31, 2012 01:18 PM (P6QsQ)

349 Thread summary to this point:

WE ARE SO SCREWED.

Posted by: filbert at January 31, 2012 01:18 PM (smvTK)

350 Hmmm... interesting question. What is the LEGAL definition of belonging to a religion? Profess you are part? Do you have to attend services? Could I be Amish just by saying I am? or is there some Legal hurdle?

Posted by: Some Kardashian at January 31, 2012 06:14 PM (lZBBB)

 

------------------------------------

 

Beards are an important.

Posted by: Soona at January 31, 2012 01:19 PM (7uUng)

351 she embarrassed the party more than Crist or stupak, or the Main sisters? she was at the least a conservative.

Posted by: willow at January 31, 2012 01:19 PM (TomZ9)

352 What filbert said.

Posted by: tasker at January 31, 2012 01:19 PM (r2PLg)

353 She'll still be remembered long after John Edwards, and much more fondly.

Posted by: bergerbilder at January 31, 2012 01:20 PM (j+Izh)

354

"I don't listen to her either way anymore."

Reminds me of when Yogi Berra said, "Nobody ever goes to that restaurant anymore - it's too crowded."

Posted by: stuiec at January 31, 2012 01:20 PM (fb1xf)

355

Firestarter Palin will be ready for the political fray by 2024; my God, she could breed superhumans if she bred with that blue-eyed Chinese boy. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 31, 2012 01:21 PM (Ec6wH)

356 She should've been a witch. They she'd be you. Like me!

Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at January 31, 2012 01:21 PM (/h3en)

357

Yep, as the Senate tries to steamrole a Debt ceiling increase in... with Obamas blessing...

 

The Media??? Ewwww... Look, a Black Man told the President to leave the country!!!

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 31, 2012 01:21 PM (lZBBB)

358 Ken Royall #361 nailed her.

(figuratively)

Posted by: Clarence at January 31, 2012 01:22 PM (z0HdK)

359 This topic had lost the new thread smell.


Posted by: mpfs at January 31, 2012 01:22 PM (iYbLN)

360 If you're criticizing Sarah Palin more than SCoaMF, you're doing it wrong.

Posted by: franksalterego at January 31, 2012 01:22 PM (9XykO)

361 Yes, there is an IRS form to be filled out. You can Google it. It has to be signed by the minster(?) attesting that you are a member in good standing of the church. Some other stuff, too. It's not simple.

Posted by: Just Me at January 31, 2012 06:20 PM (phlKA)

so I guess Muslim it is.

well i guess if I can choose the sack color that will go with my new boots. I can at least wear them right?

it would be convenient for my bad hair days.

Posted by: willow at January 31, 2012 01:22 PM (TomZ9)

362

Yes, there is an IRS form to be filled out. You can Google it. It has to be signed by the minster(?) attesting that you are a member in good standing of the church. Some other stuff, too. It's not simple.


 

Posted by: Just Me at January 31, 2012 06:20 PM (phlKA)

 

Hmmm... does that not contradict the FREE EXPRESSION of Religion?

 

But thats just that antiquated Constitution... nothing to worry about there as far as the Fed Government is concerned...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 31, 2012 01:23 PM (lZBBB)

363 I never felt embarrassed.  But then I've been battle-hardened by 50 years of 'dumb fundamentalist diatribe so I'm kind  of immune to that shtick.

There are just some parts of the Republican Party that are always going to be ashamed being seen next to the so-cons when we show up at the country club fund raiser.

Posted by: mama winger at January 31, 2012 01:23 PM (P6QsQ)

364 aw Ken, Clarence agrees with you, isn't that nice.

Posted by: willow at January 31, 2012 01:23 PM (TomZ9)

365 I always liked Palin, but thought the "maybe I will, maybe I won't" routine became a bit tiresome. I wasn't terribly surprised she finally decided not to run, but it did seem odd to me that she didn't throw her weight behind Perry who was essentially running on Palin's platform with the added benefit of having far more governing experience and not a quitter to boot.


Guess she didn't want to take the chance on backing a possible loser, fair enough, but now the Newt non-endorsement endorsement is just baffling. She's dead to me now, oh well.

Posted by: mugiwara at January 31, 2012 01:23 PM (KI/Ch)

366 BREAKING:

Mitt Romney refuses bag of peanuts on air flight

Well, I think I'll go slit my wrists...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 31, 2012 01:24 PM (+Jr2Z)

367 I don't listen to her anymore.  I was so excited when McCain named her as his running mate.  But poor judgment (by her handlers as well as herself) did her in.  If she had been as savvy as Newt re: the press.. we may have had a chance.  But she blew it and then came the reality crap, her daughter on DWTS, resigning from the governership ( although I understand why she did it) etc.. I think she is still smart but to quote Clark Cable.. frankly Sarah, we just don't give a damn.

Posted by: jewells45 at January 31, 2012 01:24 PM (Z71Vg)

368 1 Yesterday's news. The sad part is she doesn't know it. Like an aging superstar athlete who doesn't know it's time to go.

 

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 31, 2012 04:56 PM (i6RpT)

 

[reads 350 comments]  Phew!  For a minute there I thought you'd be talking about me.

Posted by: Madonna at January 31, 2012 01:25 PM (4q5tP)

369 She was utterly, completely, and without a kiss fucked over for what she is/was about. She was not my messiah, but she has more fucking balls than any man in the fucking Republican establishment. I hope she goes on and writes several more books and becomes as rich as she possibly can, and I still hope that she gives a shrill "fuck you" to the media and the Republican establishment every chance she gets.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at January 31, 2012 01:26 PM (yGl9Q)

370 Yeah, she should have run, and yeah, unlikely she would have won. But she would have have built up a big support base that she could have handed over to Perry.

And then we would have won. By having an actual executive who believes in limited government and gosh...talked about overturning the 16th amendment. Man is a God dam hero.

Posted by: Commenter at January 31, 2012 06:08 PM (xHenH)

The problem is, when she announced she wasn't running, a lot of her support DID go to Perry.  And then he went to the debates and opened his mouth, and he opened himself up to the charge of being W's dumber cousin.

Palin looked at the field, looked at her own weaknesses and strengths, and decided to ignore the flatterers telling her to run.  Perry listened to the flatterers telling him to run, ran, and got his ass handed to him.  For my money, that makes Palin the smarter politician of the two, and the one more likely to end up President someday.

Posted by: stuiec at January 31, 2012 01:26 PM (fb1xf)

371 Ken Royall, have you been playing under the stairs, too?

Posted by: bergerbilder at January 31, 2012 01:26 PM (j+Izh)

372

Palin ain't perfect.  But she's still a conservative.  Same goes for Perry. 

 

Mitt and Newt.  We sure can pick 'em, huh?

Posted by: Soona at January 31, 2012 01:27 PM (7uUng)

373 Fox Newx: Newt Gingrich declared racist for not drinking from water fountain in hallway.

Welp, there goes the election folks. Time to pack it in.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 31, 2012 01:27 PM (+Jr2Z)

374 This Week's House Floor Schedule
(http://majorityleader.gov/floor/weekly.html)

H.R. 1173 repeals CLASS.

Posted by: M80B at January 31, 2012 01:27 PM (d6QMz)

375

President Palin > President Willard

Besides, she is still relevant.  People talk about her opinions of the 2012 race ad nauseum.

Posted by: DRayRaven at January 31, 2012 01:28 PM (4kYSc)

376 When she decided to throw her support to Newt with the coy caveat that she wasn't endorsing Newt, I said enough she's in it for the bucks. Can't she just go away?

Posted by: 793rd MP at January 31, 2012 01:28 PM (FtD0d)

377 New topic: "Wasn't Dick Cheney kind of an asshole after all?"

Posted by: runninrebel at January 31, 2012 01:28 PM (N/1Dm)

378 I thought Muslims were already exempt. Something about sharia finance forbidding insurance.



That and they blow shit up if you piss them off.

Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at January 31, 2012 01:29 PM (HtUdo)

379 I always liked Palin, but thought the "maybe I will, maybe I won't" routine became a bit tiresome. I wasn't terribly surprised she finally decided not to run, but it did seem odd to me that she didn't throw her weight behind Perry who was essentially running on Palin's platform with the added benefit of having far more governing experience and not a quitter to boot.

Guess she didn't want to take the chance on backing a possible loser, fair enough, but now the Newt non-endorsement endorsement is just baffling. She's dead to me now, oh well.

Posted by: mugiwara at January 31, 2012 06:23 PM (KI/Ch)

 

Here's a thought: by the time she announced she wasn't running, Perry was in the race.  (Which probably was the reason she decided not to run, given as you say that their constituencies overlapped.)

 

And perhaps, knowing Perry from their time together in the Republican Governors Association and having assessed his lack of preparation for the campaign, she viewed him as a probable, not possible, loser.  As it turns out, he was a certain loser.

Posted by: stuiec at January 31, 2012 01:30 PM (fb1xf)

380 Can't she just go away?

She may have lost her relevance in some circles, but she will never go away. And that's a good thing.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at January 31, 2012 01:30 PM (yGl9Q)

381 Dick Cheney wouldn't pass up a piece of cake.  He'd impale it on his cock and make Chris Wallace eat it. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 31, 2012 01:32 PM (Ec6wH)

382

@9: "All the best stuff is stolen"

You said it, peasant!

Posted by: Elites and Gummint employees, rolling in your tax dollars at January 31, 2012 01:32 PM (FsqHK)

383 New topic: "Seriously though, who would ever want to die on a hill? Discuss."

Posted by: runninrebel at January 31, 2012 01:33 PM (N/1Dm)

384 I find myself in the same position as some of the morons on the previous Palin thread:  I used to love her and now I wish she'd shut the hell up and go away.  I'm still pissed that she never came out and endorsed Perry.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at January 31, 2012 01:33 PM (fuw6p)

385 Sista Sarah has STUPID stamped on her forehead.  That is what you Bushneck cowboys don't get.

She is mocked and doesn't know it.  She is a tepid bowl of warm water with no real conviction.

Damn, she would have been perfect as GOP nominee.

Posted by: Clarence at January 31, 2012 01:34 PM (z0HdK)

386 Drudge: Santorum seen eating pie ... with his mind.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 31, 2012 01:35 PM (+Jr2Z)

387 Clarence,

Your trolling in the wrong thread. Most of the people here appear agree with you.

Posted by: runninrebel at January 31, 2012 01:36 PM (N/1Dm)

388 Now, we don't know overly much about this Palin lady, but we were all pretty much written off as spent/irrelevant at least once, too, and we all came back.

Posted by: Zombies Nixon, Churchill & Hitler, LLC at January 31, 2012 01:39 PM (FsqHK)

389 I love it it ACE - you would have complained and ranted and done all sorts of flip outs if she had run and remained "relevant". Yet, Sarah Palin does exactly what you wanted: NOT RUN and you do this despicable post. Were you bored? There is not something going on in Florida today which you might have speculated about. No I won't be calm either. During the Tuscon fiasco the Establishment and as well as you failed to stand up and defend someone being wrongly tarred with murder. I can remember the post: Your words were to the effect of "Well she should have known better to use cross hairs on her map". I remember losing much respect for you when I saw that post back then. In any event it was no defense of the libel against Sarah Palin. And since when does someone have to run for office to be "relevant"? That's the most absurd formulation I've ever seen. No wonder all the power grabbers and those who do business in back rooms get into the gateways of power - they're enshrined while those who do not seek power are treated like scum by their supposed ideological allies.

Posted by: Rodney C. Johnson at January 31, 2012 01:39 PM (kE9gI)

390 Is this the THIRD or FOURTH "Sarah Palin is just a lame duck" declaration? I forget. I think it's the 3rd.

Posted by: cackfinger at January 31, 2012 01:43 PM (a9mQu)

391 Palin? That icky female what used to be a politician or something? What possible use could I have for a woman who isn't running for office?

Posted by: Space of Ades commenter at January 31, 2012 01:44 PM (Gc/Qi)

392 Remember back when Gingrich was politically dead before the debates started ? And then before SC? Conventional wisdom is SO fuckin' precise, carefully rendered, and useful. I wonder how the heck we do without more of the stuff.

Posted by: cackfinger at January 31, 2012 01:45 PM (a9mQu)

393 Now Mitt, on the other hand, when he loses this November I plan on going to his campaign headquarters, find out if he left any poo in the toilet so I can eat it.

Posted by: Space of Ades commenter at January 31, 2012 01:48 PM (Gc/Qi)

394 /sigh

Posted by: John Galt at January 31, 2012 01:48 PM (80GjT)

395 268

240
She's Peking at the right time

Posted by: Cricket


Oh, duck off and fie.

---

Orange you a saucy one?

 

 

Posted by: Cricket at January 31, 2012 01:50 PM (DrC22)

396 "But she's not really a major player now, is she?" Perhaps not. But, unlike some, say the Ace of Spuds, she doesn't pretend to be.

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Lord Collingwood (Mentioned in Dispatches) at January 31, 2012 01:52 PM (kkQ6Q)

397 It ain't easy being Ace's inner green monster.

Posted by: Ace's Inner Green Monster at January 31, 2012 01:54 PM (axc/z)

398 RINO RINO RINO RINO RINO!!!!11!!!eleventy!!!1

Posted by: thirtyandseven at January 31, 2012 01:54 PM (Ctqbp)

399 Jeez, this thread still?

I made tostadas tonight.  They were delicious.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2012 01:56 PM (UOM48)

400 Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 31, 2012 06:56 PM (UOM4

I think the topic was taco eaters, among other things.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 31, 2012 02:02 PM (nEUpB)

401 Personally, I don't understand the hatred towards Palin from some people on our side. It looks to me like Ace is trying to validate his judgement about Palin. If a guy as politically savvy as Ace cannot overcome his emotion wrt Palin, no wonder the low info conservative voters couldn't overcome their emotion wrt the "heartless" comment of the "stupid" talking point wrt Perry. Obama just made 3 stupid gaffes in the google townhall.

Palin might have made some mistakes. She may be even self-serving (yup, Romney is not self-serving at all) etc.. But she didn't throw the middle finger at the base as the Romney campaign and the Rep establishment has been doing. She tried to gauge the popular support for a presidential run. Many people from our side (including prominent social/cultural conservatives) "advised" her not to run. So she bowed down, just like Perry did. Now she is attacked for not being able to stand the heat of the kitchen!

In the mean time, Rush validated my observation that the Romney campaign and their establishment allies basically threw a middle finger to the base with their decision to trot out people like Dole, McCain... for Romney. Santorum is my guy now. But practically between Romney and Gingrich, I will go with Gingrich at this point. Here is the reason why. The establishment is openly throwing the finger at the base in the primary. When they win the election, what incentives are there for them to listen to the base? Even now, after the tea party gave them a big win in 2010, they are trying to purge the party of the Tea party people. Just look at what happened to West in FL (ya, their hands are tied by the election laws). The OH republican establishment also tried to rig the rules to exclude new Tea party candidates. I have no illusion about Gingrich. However, at least if he wins, he owes it to the base. So we may have more influence.

However, at this point, it is more likely that Romney will win the nomination unless the base can unite quickly behind either Gingrich or Santorum. After Romney wins the nomination, the establishment will make some overture to "unite" the party etc... But I have no illusion about it. They don't like (or even despise) the base, and they will try to purge the party of the Tea Party and/or the social/cultural conservative influence. They are the professional political class and they make their money from the political machines and the government. Still for the sake of the country, I will wallow in our defeat and vote for Romney in the general election. He is a liberal big gov Republican, but I know that he still loves this country more than Obama for sure. And he is not tyrannical fascist like Obama. Let the liberal wing of the party takes the victory dance (or even mocking us in the base). They have been winning since 1988 (after Reagan). So they earn the right to brag.

The base is so fractured and not that sophisticated politically. Unless we learn the lesson, this kind of situation will happen again. I was naive 4 or 5 years ago. But now I have learned more about the political process. Human nature is what it is. Power and money will corrupt some people. And the establishment (American thinker has  great article about it) derives their money from the government largess. So it is in their vested interest to keep the big gov system. I also have no illusion about some of Tea Party leaders. There be no doubt that some of them will take advantage of the Tea Party to gain power/money for themselves. But hopefully we will get some good people (who at least will take longer to corrupt) to enact some real reforms. But it is pretty depressing for me right now.

Posted by: LAI at January 31, 2012 02:02 PM (kWOMP)

402 All the bullshit finally got to her. I think the last straw was when someone came up to her daughter in a public place and called her a 'whore'. I think she wanted to run for President, but they made her life so fucking miserable that it got to her. She didn't want her kids to have to suffer. They did it to Cain, too. They're mad dogs. Not one of you pussies disparaging her now could do what she's done or take what she's taken. Have you seen her lately? She looks beat. We deserve the louts and losers who run for office. Only the bad survive. Fuck them. Fuck whoever participated in doing this to her.

Posted by: ahem at January 31, 2012 02:06 PM (zmP+2)

403

381 BREAKING: Mitt Romney refuses bag of peanuts on air flight

 

--------------

 

He's just pandering to the peanutically challenged.

Posted by: Anachronda at January 31, 2012 02:09 PM (NmR1a)

404
Careful with your 'theys'. Seems a lot of people on this website are so godawful embarassed to be in the same party with that hick, they cannot stand to see her breath.

Posted by: Entropy, Racism Delenda Est at January 31, 2012 05:37 PM (Ci0JG)


And many of them are the same fools who jumped on that bandwagon too, when it was nice and shiny.

Posted by: MlR at January 31, 2012 02:11 PM (vj9lA)

405 Sarah plain is the closing keynote speaker at CPAC. After Pulling out last minute for two years in a row she has agreed to appear this time. I find it curious. I think she senses her star is waning??

Posted by: RoxyDoxy at January 31, 2012 02:12 PM (ZzhA3)

406 56
You know who else has no juice?

All the conservatives who produced an epic grassroots effort in 2010 to strike back at the Democrats.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 31, 2012 05:07 PM (sqkOB)

Winner.

I'm sure the spending cuts - or even freezes - are coming any day now.

Posted by: MlR at January 31, 2012 02:12 PM (vj9lA)

407 I liked and supported Palin until the big 'will she or won't she' tease. Her non-endorsement endorsement of Gingrich more or less sealed the deal. I'm no Gingrich fan by any means, but if she supports Newt, then she should go all the way and get out there and take to the stump on his behalf. And how, exactly, does a private citizen go about making an 'unofficial' endorsement, anyway? Palin once said she had the 'fire in the belly' to run for President. I haven't seen any evidence of such ambition unless she's playing the long game, banking on Romney to lose and going for it in 2016.

Posted by: troyriser at January 31, 2012 02:13 PM (YCeSE)

408 Four hundred and ten comments on a 'meh' post?

Sheesh.  It's like we're so desperate we'd shtup the police chief of Paso Robles or something.

http://tinyurl.com/82jdtod

Now, back to the point.  I love Sarah Palin.  I'd rather see her President than either Obama or the GOP's Odd Couple.  She's not Harvard.  I'm guessing she might even know which wrench to use on a 19mm nut when all you have is SAE inch tools.  As far as I'm concerned this matters a lot.  We're likely to end up in a Harvard vs. Harvard election, when what we need is scorched ivy.  But I digress.

Back when Bush sent half the number of troops needed into Iraq, Brother Cornwell (nom de blot John Le Carre) noted that the US goes through periods of historical madness, and that the Saddam-on-a-skewer venture was one of them. 

Was he right?   Wouldn't have mattered if we'd got it right, but instead of Bush Senior demanding 400K troopers to apply the boot in Kuwait we got Bush Junior acquiescing to a 'managed' war, ten years of bureaucrats and lawyers.

And the legacy of that is the true moment of American historical madness, the election of Barack Obama.

This country could, if you'd consumed half a bottle of cheap but drinkable Merlot, to a gyroscope.  A spinning top.  We are dependent on the inertia of past things done right to carry us through the bumps, wobbles, and drag of things done wrong; the 'light at the end of the tunnel' metaphor.    We do not have the history, perhaps not the ability, the patience, of the Chinese or some other older cultures, the ability culturally to hunker down and muddle through decades or centuries of misrule. 

So when does the top topple, and do we flop to the ground spent, or are we kicked over by some blow that leaves plenty of force to expend itself knocking down those who did the kicking?




Posted by: JEM at January 31, 2012 02:14 PM (o+SC1)

409 Yeah. Palin was so stupid. A hick. A no class at all nobody. A hockey puck from a low class State college, one who dared to speak and live an honorable life.

But Brak was, by virtue of no experience at all, so qualified, and smart, and had the bestest creased pants ever, and a Constitutional law scholar, who isn't ever from around here, and a community organizer who palled around with all the cool kids who blew up stuff, and a preacher man who hates this country. That Brak was so much more qualified to high office than the Palin.

Yeah. Palin deserves whatever hate she gets from us, the faithful, the concerned, the analytical, the wise ones.

As far as I know, only five presidents were qualified for the job based on experience: Geo. Washington, John Adams, Thom Jefferson, James Madison, and John Quincy Adams. On one of my charitable days, I might add Ronald Regan, because he had a sense of the heartland.

Truman was OK despite his lack of experience. He made up for that by having a spine.

Here I stand. Make your case otherwise.

Posted by: Hammersmith Police at January 31, 2012 02:23 PM (Onw8c)

410 @426 - oh, by dint of experience we had quite a few qualified presidents, just going back to the post-Civil War era Grant, TR, Hoover, FDR, Eisenhower, Johnson were all highly qualified by dint of experience.  Maybe Nixon. 

Their performance in office was quite a mixed bag.

Reagan and Clinton are probably a notch down, Carter a notch below that, and Lincoln and JFK a notch lower still.



Posted by: JEM at January 31, 2012 02:31 PM (o+SC1)

411

I can't believe all the people bad-mouthing Palin.  Four years ago, I bet most of you were defending her against all the media attacks and attacks from the left.  She's obviously smarter than all of us.  She was a mayor, a governor, and a vice-presidential nominee.  And after the loss, parlayed that into even more success for herself and her family.

Pretty shameful if you ask me, how some so-called conservatives eat their own.

Posted by: Marmo at January 31, 2012 02:35 PM (pcgW1)

412 426 comments in what, 3 hours?

Yeah, no juice at all.

Her balls are bigger than Ace's, too.

Granted, she's not a desirable GOP-type candidate, like, say, Mike Castle.

But at least she got pushed aside. Now we get to choose between high-quality, widely popular candidates! Like Mitt and Newt.

And maybe even a sooper candidate like Rick Perry!

Well played, Ace. WELL PLAYED.


Posted by: tsj017 at January 31, 2012 02:36 PM (vOH26)

413 Palin once said she had the 'fire in the belly' to run for President. I haven't seen any evidence of such ambition unless she's playing the long game, banking on Romney to lose and going for it in 2016.

Posted by: troyriser at January 31, 2012 07:13 PM (YCeSE)

She doesn't have to bank on Romney losing.  She can easily wait until 2020 if Romney (or Newt) wins and gets re-elected.

Posted by: stuiec at January 31, 2012 02:40 PM (fb1xf)

414 Ace it's cause you can't fight like a mama girl grizzly playing checker-chess or something.

Posted by: Palinbot at January 31, 2012 02:48 PM (VxqUc)

415 @431 - the important thing to remember is that in the end Joan of Arc died.

We're going through a remarkable period of stupidity right now.  If you decide to swim in the whirlpool of political dumb you may end up drowning in it.

It makes a certain amount of sense, if you think that the country can in fact survive the current idiot no matter who replaces him, to sit back and wait for a more stable future.

Posted by: JEM at January 31, 2012 02:49 PM (o+SC1)

416 Posted by: ahem at January 31, 2012 07:06 PM (zmP+2)

It is outrageous to compare Palin's treatment by the media to Cain's.  She was attacked for being who she is, not anything she did.  Cain was a lying horn-dog - he told four different and contradictory versions of whether or not he knew about the NRA settlements within 12 hours of the story breaking. 

Palin may be naive and wrong about things (like the evil Gingrich), but she's never knowingly looked us in the eyes and lied like that.

Posted by: Adjoran at January 31, 2012 02:55 PM (VfmLu)

417 you could interchange comments between ace of spades and lgf and nobody would be able to tell the difference.....

Posted by: russ hines at January 31, 2012 02:57 PM (GkHqV)

418 The economy will bottom out before the election, Obama will point to Mitt ,  and say, " that evil rich white banker and Bush and his cronies did this to us, so let's fuck them up GOOD! Am I wrong?

Posted by: bigmike at January 31, 2012 02:58 PM (JVNfo)

419 When did the Tea Party, which was originally fiscally conservative get co-opted by the social conservatives?  (By the way, I am a Social Conservative, but that is beside the point)  Last week when Sarah Palin endorsed Newt.

The Tea Party originally put aside the social issues to address the fiscal issues: the national debt, the budget deficit, the confiscatory tax code, the Federal Reserve.  Palin dropped in my opinion when she invoked "the principles of the Tea Party" to attack Romney.  She appeared like (Yes, I repeat this) a woman having menstrual cramps on Hannity last night.  She was bitchy. 

Nobody likes an unreasonable bitch.

Posted by: Jimbo at January 31, 2012 03:04 PM (O3R/2)

420

I don't think she's lost anything, she's just being overshadowed by the actual campaign and all of the shenanigans therein.  She's staying out of the fray, <a href="http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00458588">SarahPAC's spending so far has been fairly low. </a>

I suspect that she's avoiding the Presidential election and will step in to help Tea Party-esque congressional candidates again...particularly if Romney is the Republican candidate.  I suspect she'll come out with a slate of Republican House and Senate candidates she's backing around April or May.

Posted by: Xmas at January 31, 2012 03:07 PM (cP8OI)

421 Honestly some of the Romney supporters make me want to sit out this presidential election. Unless th ey are trolls or the so-called "fiscal" conservatives who hate the socons, they are fools if they claim to be conservative. Just look at court appointments of Chris Christie, Romney ideological ally. He appointed a Muslim judge with ties to radical Islamists and called the opposition crazy. Now, he appointed a gay judge who compared traditional marriage to slavery. Johm Hawkins also had a good summary of Romney candidacy. Read it and weep!

Posted by: LAI at January 31, 2012 03:09 PM (nLTW4)

422

This is just too much.

Palin's decision to sit it out, for whatever reason, was disappointing. Yeah.

But did it make her irrelevant? In your dreams, buddy boy, in your dreams.

Here's the primary fact, and Romney's and the GOP establishment's  nightmare.

There's just enough time and primaries and delegates left that if Palin were to act to qualify in the remaining states, she could raise the money in a heartbeat and would have the necessary volunteers to staff her that, that she would take the race by numbers enough to throw the race wide open and it would go to a brokered convention, and she'd win at the convention.

I'm so disgusted with the primary choices at this point, I'm already weighing my options about what exactly I'm going to do when it comes time to pull the lever in the fall.

I'd support Palin in a heartbeat. As the best candidate for president, to lead the country.

She could still energize the base in ways that Newt can't, and Romney finds impossible. Game changer.

...and its sad, for the country, that she hasn't.

Posted by: davisbr at January 31, 2012 03:22 PM (EuWFS)

423

 No, Ace, she is not a major player, or any kind of player at all. But I expect you know that. She will always have a small devoted following but politcs and public affairs now flow on without her. By her own decision.

Clearly, she will never again seek public office. The left now knows how to defeat her, and she knows they know: Although relatively fearless herself, if her family is attacked viciously enough and/or their safety threatened in a credible way, she will withdraw from the field.

And the left has held up its end. As soon as her declaration to not run was made, she and her family dropped out of the news. All the commentators and celebs that once mocked her unceasingly have apparently all but forgotten her name. Her family is ignored now, not pursued. Safe, not threatened.

She is now working out her contract with FOX; I doubt either side will wish to renew it. In any event, she is now only one more voice among hundreds. Likely enough, she will return to Alaska and generally live out her life. A book now and then (but no million seller), a speech now and then to some of the old faithful crowd ... Sarah Palin .. requiescat in pacem ..

But that's not good enough for AoSHQ, no. They must dig up the corpse and once again perform the ritual mutilations. I had thought with the passage of time and her self-determined irrelevance to politics she would at the least be ignored, as she is by the left, or even discussed with common decency. Maybe I was thinking of the Belmont Club or one of the other serious discussion sites.

But Monty's Doom articles continue to be good; reason enough to keep the AoSHQ link among my bookmarks, I guess.

Posted by: Nr. Natural at January 31, 2012 03:44 PM (vza7I)

424 Palin is still a bitch.

Posted by: Jimbo at January 31, 2012 03:50 PM (O3R/2)

425 Establishment establishment establishment establishment establishment.

Posted by: Anony at January 31, 2012 03:55 PM (Yigvc)

426 "But at least she got pushed aside. Now we get to choose between high-quality, widely popular candidates! Like Mitt and Newt. And maybe even a sooper candidate like Rick Perry! Well played, Ace. WELL PLAYED. Posted by: tsj017 at January 31, 2012 07:36 PM (vOH26)" Palin wasn't 'pushed aside'. She and her husband took a look at the numbers and didn't think they could overcome the negatives. Their call. On the other hand, I bet Newt Gingrich's numbers were even worse than Palin's going in, but he said hell with it and went for it. I don't even like Newt Gingrich, as a man or as a candidate, but credit where it's due: he's willing to roll the dice. You can't win if you don't play.

Posted by: troyriser at January 31, 2012 03:56 PM (YCeSE)

427 Palin was 2008.  The Tea Party was 2010.  I am more interested in beating Obama than finding the mythical ephemeral "real Conservative."  2010 was a great win, because we dropped the social issues to gather Democrat and Independent support to address the fiscal issues.   Palin supports Newt.  Why?  She never really says. 

Posted by: Jimbo at January 31, 2012 04:00 PM (O3R/2)

428 Palin pissed me when she said Santorum should quit. Who does she think she is? It's the primary; he can continue if he wants and I can vote for who I want. I won't have to hold my nose until the general. I'll be voting for Santorum in Missouri, where Santorum is leading, BTW. (true, no Gingrich on ballot)

Posted by: Justamom at January 31, 2012 04:01 PM (Sptt8)

429 Palin has as much moral force today as she had when she was Governor. She has spent much of the last year chit chatting about whatever was the new interesting tactical topic. So much of what we are used to hearing from her lately is somewhat banal. However, if she were to take a stand and fight for her issue, she would crush her opponents. She is much more formidable than anyone else in our political firmament, but for now she is inexplicably resting. She is as hard, mean, and nasty a politician as you have ever met and would disembowel the current crop of blue-blooded, donkey-brained, left-wingers posing as potential Republican nominees. Anyone who does not respect her power is a fool.

Posted by: rammer at January 31, 2012 04:02 PM (tfjeo)

430 rammer:  Palin is a caricature.  She scares the Independents.

Posted by: Jimbo at January 31, 2012 04:03 PM (O3R/2)

431 btw, I like Sarah Palin a bunch.  But, get real.  She hitched her wagon to John McCain.  McCain would not say the things about Obama that needed to be said.  Just as Dole would not say the things about Clinton that needed to be said.

Palin didn't not run because of the personal and family attacks.  She chose not to run because her recent wealth allows her to raise her children in a nice manner.  We may see her again in 10 years.

Posted by: Jimbo at January 31, 2012 04:10 PM (O3R/2)

432 I have not liked Sarah Palin since I heard on the radio that her Teen daughter Bristol was preggers. No way she did not know it when she accepted. I almost drove off the road it pissed me off so much.

Posted by: Janetoo at January 31, 2012 04:17 PM (R+fMx)

433 You still love your daughter if she gets preggers out of wedlock (What an old fashioned idea).  It's not something to be proud of though.

Posted by: Jimbo at January 31, 2012 04:39 PM (O3R/2)

434 That big flushing sound??? ThatÂ’s just millions in wasted political capital propelling a yapper crapper back to the desolate tundra.

Posted by: ray at January 31, 2012 05:10 PM (wl2vr)

435 Either that or the selective logic disease that has infected pretty much the whole Democrat Party resulting in Obots has now spread to Republicans to give us Romneybots.

Posted by: Greg at January 31, 2012 05:22 PM (ReF/l)

436 She's a major pain in the ass now.

Posted by: cvb at January 31, 2012 05:42 PM (HRFxR)

437
She's forty eight years old and still has a young family to raise.
Is she irrelevant?  Yah, just like I was in 1962.

Posted by: Richard Nixon at January 31, 2012 06:15 PM (0b17P)

438 Used to be a fan, not anymore!  Since Sarah stood up and said Newt was the one they should vote for and she knows all about his history and his philandering and his big government, and yet she insisted that this horrible harangue should continue.  Sorry, Sarah, you lost me for good.

Posted by: No Fan at January 31, 2012 06:50 PM (rsOPT)

439 Yes, clearly the problem with conservatism is Sarah Palin and in the long war against Progressivism, we should attack her because, well, she couldn't resurrect the dead.

What a bunch of pussies.

Does she have the political weight she used to? I dunno, but she still is a strong conservative voice. But it sure is a good idea to dump on her because, well, there's just so many quality surrogates pitching smaller government values from the Right. I mean look at the GOP? What a powerhouse. Plus, dumping on any new conservative blood is sure to invite more relative outsiders for reform because running the gauntlet from the Left and the Right is so rewarding and character-building. Besides, Palin has an annoying voice and is The Stupid™. What has she ever done for the Right anyway?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 31, 2012 06:55 PM (eHIJJ)

440 Ace/Palin = RS McCain/Perry

Here's a clue.

Posted by: thirteen28 at January 31, 2012 06:58 PM (AbmsP)

Posted by: thirteen28 at January 31, 2012 07:00 PM (AbmsP)

442

Yeah Palin's over.  She is so like 30 seconds ago.

Jesus Tap Danincing Christ people!  If you listened to the chatter, If Newt didn't win Florida with it's whopping 50 delegates, it soo over for Newt.  50 delegates, what is that?  About 4% of the total 1140 some odd needed to win the nomination?  Has the MFM so rotted the thinking process that no one can conceive  that more than one candidate can survive to Super Tuesday? 

Have we let them make us so shortsighted that we are willing to believe that the issue is decided with less than 10% of the delegates committed?

I say this because there seems to be some thinking that Palin is a has been simply because she has not been in the news for a couple of weeks.  Has our grasp of the situation become so narrow that relevance is now decided in weeks rather than months?

If we seem to consider an issue as important as the party nominee to be decided before a vote has been cast, perhaps we are to impatient for the reality of politics.

Posted by: Thresherman at January 31, 2012 07:05 PM (zVVKt)

443 No, Sarah Palin is starting to fade....  eventually she will fade enough over the next year to be about 50 times more relevant than anyone on this site, including ACE.
Lets see.... ACE has around 470 comments on this one with a Palin in headline and Sarah has only 728,000 followers on Twitter.
Maybe the reason threads here on Palin have dropped off is because people who like Palin think ACE and his dolt posters are buttocks lickers and really can't be bothered to come here much any more.

Posted by: PhilipJames at January 31, 2012 07:47 PM (G9AXq)

444 Name one pundit you'd prefer to listen to . . .(e.g., Hugh Hewitt, 'what's his name' in the wheelchair, that 'Weekly Standard' guy), etc. who speaks to core conservative values while understanding the importance of getting rid of that SCOAMF in the White House?

In my humble opinion, Sarah Palin may be the only relevant conservative voice out here.

Posted by: Pragmatic at January 31, 2012 08:04 PM (elHhH)

445 I sincerely hope after tonight with her choice losing BIG, she goes away for good. I haven't been able to stand her since Sept. 1, 2008 and I dislike her more and more everyday.  Her choosing Newt and all his baggage over Rick Perry was incredibly detrimental to conservatives. I hope to God her cult breaks up and her power is severely diminished. I hope she takes Cain, Newt, and a lot of "conservative" (present company excepted natch) pundits with her.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 31, 2012 08:16 PM (KL49F)

446 Familiarity breeds contempt. When I first heard her name, I laughed and felt joy that the R's turned things back on the D's. Then the vitriol thrown at her made me *want* to listen. Her scattered resignation speech gave me pause, but I put myself in her shoes and forgave her.

She was the ONLY one speaking to/for people like me, and while I wasn't motivated to vote in 2008, I was in 2010, and I give her BIG props for getting me to vote for the first time - ever.

Now that she doesn't get the vitriol, she seems like she's just yelling at a wall. I still agree with her, that Mitt needs more seasoning, and Newt knows how to salt, so I don't discount her.

Posted by: Amy Shulkusky at January 31, 2012 09:12 PM (jKunv)

447

FLTurnout down 13% from 2008, later in the season in a mostly decided contest for a doomed frontrunner.

Ogabe raised $68 Million 4th Qtr., Romney $24 Million, spent $17 Million in FL “Bombing Gingrich back to the Stone Age”–Brit Hume.

Winning.

Have another drink Ace.

Posted by: gary gulrud at February 01, 2012 12:59 AM (o0Uno)

448 Well for Christs sake I hope to hell your daughter never gets preggers, so much the better she be teh gay, I guess than" be punished with a baby"! My point was - she should have realized what it would do to the election and may I ad, it has been a DRAG on her overall perceived persona ever since- I said nothing about not loving her daughter or not accepting the baby. I would accept it (not like it) if my daughter ended up like that, but I'M NOT RUNNING FOR VICE PRESIDENT, a position that SHOULD hold you to a HIGHER STANDARD. And you were preety snippy and by the way - geez...

Posted by: Janetoo at February 01, 2012 01:10 AM (R+fMx)

449 Romney had to spend how many millions to win Florida? Because of Gingrich? No because of Palin!

Posted by: Huggy at February 01, 2012 03:28 AM (FD6YW)

450 Seen Sarah lately? She is getting a mustache, losing the milf/gilf look

Posted by: Grover at February 01, 2012 03:56 AM (hTg4c)

451 "What does he actually seek to accomplish after he's done turning back the waters and healing the planet? The answer -- the answer is to make government bigger and take more of your money and give you more orders from Washington and to reduce the strength of America in a dangerous world." She was right.

Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at February 01, 2012 04:39 AM (qndXR)

452 Is Romney A Lame Dick?

Posted by: Mitt Still Sux at February 01, 2012 04:45 AM (lt9Rp)

453 It seems you would like that to be so, Ace. I don't know what is really the case. I think it's a little to obvious that you would rather her influence diminish based on her endorsements (no to Perry, no to Romney -at present anyway, and yes to Mr. G). I think she still has some weight with people who admire her ability to just say whats what. As long as she keeps that, she'll have an appeal, and she will give people permission to think what they think. Her political career is of course trashed, and some - SOME of that is self inflicted. As a pundit she's as useful as any of them. Certainly as useful as a Coulter.

Posted by: SarahW at February 01, 2012 05:24 AM (LYwCh)

454 This chamber.  It's full of echo.

Posted by: Kerry at February 01, 2012 06:11 AM (a/VXa)

455 Funny - I'm surprised at these comments.  I think she is the only person actually stating the conservative position.  I haven't written her off - maybe we should slow down a little bit and listen. She appears to me to have a greater love for country than those actually running.

Posted by: Nancy at February 01, 2012 07:25 AM (ogeNs)

456

If you mean is she done as the right's version of the one, their conservative messiah, then yes.

 

If you mean is she done as a political commentator, then no.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at February 01, 2012 07:39 AM (hLRSq)

457

1. If four months after she declares herself out of the race, you feel the need to hold forth at length about how you're so over her...you're not.

2. If at the same remove, you feel there's any use, let alone need, to post a thread asking whether she's a lame-duck player in the GOP and the conservative movement...she just might not be. If people then discuss the matter for nearly five hundred posts...she's not.

3. After a campaign that has mostly consisted of the declared candidates apparently vying to say the most breathtakingly stupid thing in front of the cameras, several of them apparently not having the infrastructure and organization to follow state ballot-access laws, and mostly serially melting down before a national audience...no matter which of them gets the nomination, no matter whether said poor sucker beats Teh Awesome or not, does anybody want to argue that Palin would have done worse? That she could have done worse? I mean, as a serious argument, not as a joke? I think most of these guys would have trouble outsmarting Trig, let alone his mom.

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