January 30, 2014

In France, a "Day of Rage" Protest On the Eve of the Holocaust Remembrance Day, Features Ugly, Loud Anti-Semitism
— Ace

Horrible.

In the video below, "Juif" -- their favorite word -- means Jew, of course. The first thing said is Juif, casse-toi, La France n'est pas à toi!

This means something like: "Jew, get the hell out, France is not for you."

I didn't know what "casser" meant in this context. It usually means "break." It can also mean "get the hell out of here" when used as a command.

But it also, wonderfully enough, turns out to to have a vile double meaning:

(familiar)to kill (esp. if motivated by prejudice)

Because of the grammar of it, I think they mean the "get the hell out" meaning, but it also seems to me they don't mind this other meaning being suggested.

This "Jour de Colère," or Day of Rage, was called for by supporters of that idiot anti-semitic comedian Dieudonné.

Many protestors did the "quenelle," the inverted Nazi salute which they claim is not a Nazi salute. However, if you watch the video, you can see some of his supporters making explicit that it is a Nazi salute-- because they don't bother doing the Double Secret Nazi Salute of the quenelle, but instead do the full, real, Hitler Nazi salute.

It was part of a "Day of Anger" called by extremists in support of Dieudonne last Sunday. French police estimated that around 17,000 people had attended the march, and said that 150 had been arrested. Police told AFP news agency that 19 police officers were injured in clashes with demonstrators, one seriously.

Despite claims by Dieudonne and some of his supporters that it is simply an innocent "up yours" or "anti-establishment" gesture, [the quenelle] has been adopted by a vast range of anti-Semites, from the far-right to Muslim extremists, many of whom post online pictures of themselves making the salute in front of sensitive sites such as Holocaust memorials, synagogues, and even the school in Toulouse at which an Islamist gunman murdered a rabbi and three Jewish children.

That last incident happened just in 2012.

What is there even to say?

Oh, and let me just bookmark this post for the next time Bill Maher blabbles on about how enlightened the Europeans are.

Oh: They shout about "LICRA," too. That's the League Against (Contre) Racism and Antisemtism.

It's amazing to me that people claiming there is no anti-semitism would simultaneously walk down the streets demanding that Jews get out of the country and making Nazi salutes. Or that they would claim "The gas chambers are a lie (bullshit)," even as they're demonstrating exactly how gas chambers come into being.


Thanks, of a kind, to Charlie Brown's Dildo.

Posted by: Ace at 01:46 PM | Comments (290)
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1 Sickening.  I had no idea.

Posted by: Peaches at January 30, 2014 01:49 PM (8lmkt)

2 Oui Oui

Posted by: cynicus maximus at January 30, 2014 01:49 PM (H+j7N)

3 The Nazis were just hiding in the basements all this time.

Posted by: Dang at January 30, 2014 01:49 PM (MNq6o)

4 What is there even to say?


Fuck this interesting times shit?   I think that sums it up nicely.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 30, 2014 01:50 PM (Gk3SS)

5 Next time, you're on your own, fuque-faces.

Posted by: wiserbud at January 30, 2014 01:51 PM (NXg/k)

6 Be interesting to see how the EU states react. Or the US for that matter. Personally, I find it beyond repugnant.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 30, 2014 01:52 PM (GufPw)

7 Save it, Renault.

Posted by: Rick Blaine at January 30, 2014 01:52 PM (Ua6T/)

8 ...this will end well...

Posted by: innocent bystanders at January 30, 2014 01:52 PM (YEo73)

9 Part of my family emigrated from France. I am embarrassed for myself.

Posted by: Painted She-Whore of Gomorrah at January 30, 2014 01:53 PM (zvxqj)

10 ...sacre bleu!

Posted by: Jacques Brel at January 30, 2014 01:53 PM (YEo73)

11 You see, their real problem is they don't know who the real "need to get out" people are.

Posted by: governor Cuomo at January 30, 2014 01:53 PM (f7Iot)

12 I know; let's have open borders for JEWS.

They're smarter, more literate and usually have some money they can lay their hands on. (stereotype acknowledged and self denounced)

Why import a bunch of illiterate poor hard scrabble farmers from Mexico or further south?

Let's invite the JEWS in!!!!

/s (just in case)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at January 30, 2014 01:53 PM (LSDdO)

13 My own first take, when they cracked down on this Dieudonne clown -- that even hateful speech should NOT be cracked down on, as it creates martyrs and no government should be in the business of dictating what people think -- is being sorely tested at the moment.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 01:54 PM (/FnUH)

14 Hateful and vile. With economic collapse on speed-dial here in the US, I will not be surprised to see this type of thing increase here in America. Jews have always made great scapegoats.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 30, 2014 01:54 PM (P6QsQ)

15 Do these French fools not know that Jerry Lewis is a Jew?

Posted by: huerfano at January 30, 2014 01:54 PM (bAGA/)

16 6 Be interesting to see how the EU states react. Or the US for that matter. Personally, I find it beyond repugnant.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 30, 2014 06:52 PM (GufPw)


Denial and suppression. Divide and conquer. More totalitarianism to use the crises for the ones in power. 

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at January 30, 2014 01:54 PM (AWmfW)

17 Fuck this interesting times shit? I think that sums it up nicely.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 30, 2014 06:50 PM (Gk3SS)

Look, the Chinese didn't call it a CURSE for nothing.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at January 30, 2014 01:55 PM (LSDdO)

18 Oh those sophisticated Yurpeens.

Posted by: Waterhouse at January 30, 2014 01:55 PM (c9nR4)

19 Le Tea-Baggeurs!

Posted by: --- at January 30, 2014 01:56 PM (MMC8r)

20 When my Grandma left Slovakia in 1937 (or as I like to say, just in time) for America she stopped over in France.  She actually ended up going to the Worlds Fair in Paris.  Before she passed away I asked her about France.  The only thing she told me was they are all Anti-Semites.  Good times.  Grandma knew a thing or two about a thing or two.

Posted by: Shtetl G at January 30, 2014 01:56 PM (lqobq)

21 >>>What is there even to say?

Matches!
I've got heavy wooden MATCHES over heyah.
Perfect for throwing.
Have fun.
Watch it burn.
Matches!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at January 30, 2014 01:56 PM (0q2P7)

22 14 gw: JPFO.org

Posted by: speedster1 on the iPad at January 30, 2014 01:56 PM (noB3y)

23 ...let git the JOOOOOOOOSSSSSSS!!!

Posted by: third worlders at January 30, 2014 01:56 PM (YEo73)

24 Your a peon.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at January 30, 2014 01:56 PM (LSDdO)

25 Why do these idiots hate the Jews so much? I doubt any of them have been within 100 miles of one.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 30, 2014 01:56 PM (tmzN0)

26 What should you say? I don't know the prioper spelling, but phoenetically, I believe it's pronounced "Fu Twa".

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at January 30, 2014 01:56 PM (R+XDI)

27 Just a reminder, wing-nuts -- the Europeans are more sophisticated than you.


Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 30, 2014 01:57 PM (wcvVw)

28 >>>Do these French fools not know that Jerry Lewis is a Jew? while many are indeed ethnically French, a great many of them are really sort of, you know, not. Many are recent immigrants who aren't culturally French. North African, Muslim.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 01:57 PM (/FnUH)

29 Does Ralph Peters still think the US Navy will go ashore in Europe to guarantee the safe evacuation of Muslims?

Posted by: boniface ballers at January 30, 2014 01:57 PM (l3RZ9)

30 @22 speedster God bless them.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 30, 2014 01:58 PM (P6QsQ)

31 I know how I react. Dear French Jews, I will sponsor you, should you wish to emigrate from that cess pool.

Posted by: Dianna at January 30, 2014 01:58 PM (QtPd/)

32 >>>is being sorely tested at the moment.

Remember it was never Hitler. There are always crazee Hitlers wandering about. It was the masses willing to listen to him... that was the problem.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at January 30, 2014 01:58 PM (0q2P7)

33 can they all be eaten by a loup garou?

Posted by: soothsayer at January 30, 2014 01:58 PM (g7osp)

34 North African, Muslim. Yep. And very, very anti-Israel.

Posted by: --- at January 30, 2014 01:58 PM (MMC8r)

35 27 Just a reminder, wing-nuts -- the Europeans are more sophisticated than you.
 
Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 30, 2014 06:57 PM (wcvVw)


Oops, Ace already hit this point. Maybe I should start reading posts before commenting.

Just kidding!

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 30, 2014 01:58 PM (wcvVw)

36 France had a big Amnesty back in 2006.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 30, 2014 01:58 PM (ZPrif)

37 I sure the actual NAZIs would have been very upset with Frenchies using their salute.

Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2014 01:59 PM (4JkHl)

38 that even hateful speech should NOT be cracked down on, as it creates martyrs and no government should be in the business of dictating what people think Those who incite violence should have no recourse when they receive that violence.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2014 01:59 PM (exFew)

39 4 What is there even to say? Fuck this interesting times shit? I think that sums it up nicely. Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 30, 2014 06:50 PM (Gk3SS) Well said AtC End times? Burning times? Every thing that is right is wrong & vice versa

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 30, 2014 01:59 PM (HVff2)

40

I just don't understand where their Jew-hatred is coming from.

 

I mean...why?

Why do they hate the Jews? What is their reasoning?

 

Not that there is any 'good' reason for their hatred...I just always try to understand how something came to be.

Posted by: wheatie at January 30, 2014 01:59 PM (d+eIv)

41 31 I know how I react. Dear French Jews, I will sponsor you, should you wish to emigrate from that cess pool. I gotta imagine there are more jews in Iran than in France.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 30, 2014 01:59 PM (tmzN0)

42 Even before the Muslim invasion, France was anti-Semitic.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 30, 2014 01:59 PM (P6QsQ)

43 So the Burning Times. They are coming, yes?

Posted by: blaster at January 30, 2014 01:59 PM (4+AaH)

44 Ah yes,the " far right".

Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2014 01:59 PM (zqvg6)

45 >>Chants include "Jews, France is not yours!" "Jews out of France" and "The story of the gas chambers is bull***!" "We hate you so much that we're screaming and frothing at the mouth and you're lying about other people hating you enough to kill you." Brainics, they are not.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 30, 2014 02:00 PM (SUKHu)

46 This "Jour de Colère," or Day of Rage, was called for by supporters of that idiot anti-semitic comedian Dieudonné. But seriously, folks, how many Jews can fit in a Volkswagen?

Posted by: --- at January 30, 2014 02:00 PM (MMC8r)

47 I was hugely amused by the comment in an earlier thread to the effect that Israel is an especially complicated issue for the French because they loathe the Jews, but they also despise the Arabs. Quelle dilemma!

Posted by: torquewrench at January 30, 2014 02:00 PM (gqT4g)

48  I think it stems from the original Roman Church position that the Jews killed Jesus.

Now admittedly, the Jews at that time did cry for Jesus' blood but then it was claimed that that call tainted any Jews forevermore.

Which is dumb because of things Jesus (who was/is a Jew) himself said and other stuff in both the Old and New Testaments.

God isn't about to give up on His Chosen People.

And that's not necessarily a good thing.  YET.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at January 30, 2014 02:00 PM (LSDdO)

49 The French are increasingly not, ethnically, French. Or culturally. They are still linguistically French. I think.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 30, 2014 02:00 PM (ZPrif)

50 I still hold a grudge with de Gaulle.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 30, 2014 02:01 PM (cHZB7)

51 @40 The history of the world is full of Jew hate. It's an old old story.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 30, 2014 02:01 PM (P6QsQ)

52 If only the French had amnesty.  That would solve all their problems.

Posted by: Cryin' Boner at January 30, 2014 02:01 PM (Hvt9o)

53 Rounding up Jews was one of the few things the French and the Germans saw eye to eye on in WWII.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 30, 2014 02:01 PM (8ZskC)

54 They hate the Jews because Muhammad hated the Jews and made jew-hatred a founding principle of Islam.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 30, 2014 02:01 PM (ZPrif)

55 that even hateful speech should NOT be cracked down on, as it creates martyrs and no government should be in the business of dictating what people think

I agree, but you need the proper context of the 2nd Amendment and Jury Nullification

Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2014 02:02 PM (4JkHl)

56 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 30, 2014 06:56 PM (tmzN0)

Le Marais is the Jewish neighborhood of Paris, and has been since (I think) the end of the 19th century.

Paris has always had Jews, and many remained even after the holocaust.

Unfortunately, the French penchant for turning on the Jews, something they demonstrated rather well during WWII, has not diminished.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 30, 2014 02:02 PM (QFxY5)

57 I looked it up: there are 400,000 Jews in France, or .9% of the population. So why are these people so convinced the Jews are out to get them? I don't understand antisemitism.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 30, 2014 02:02 PM (tmzN0)

58

48 I think it stems from the original Roman Church position that the Jews killed Jesus.

 

Yeah...I wondered about that.

France was late to party in the Protestant Reformation, weren't they.

Posted by: wheatie at January 30, 2014 02:02 PM (d+eIv)

59 A country being overrun by the muzzies, yeah, Jewry is what you need to worry about...

Posted by: prescient11 at January 30, 2014 02:02 PM (tVTLU)

60 Yeah those Europeans definitely the enlightened ones.  Nothing like anti-Semitism mixed in with throwing bananas at black soccer players to demonstrate enlightenment.

Posted by: buzzion at January 30, 2014 02:02 PM (LI48c)

61 Muslims don't need any extra reasons outside of their religion to hate jews,as for others it is usually jealousy at the economic success of jews.

Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2014 02:03 PM (zqvg6)

62 My own first take, when they cracked down on this Dieudonne clown -- that even hateful speech should NOT be cracked down on, as it creates martyrs and no government should be in the business of dictating what people think -- is being sorely tested at the moment.
Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 06:54 PM (/FnUH)



It's being sorely tested because he's moving well past the line of vile speech and into the realm of advocating action to be taken to commence genocide.   Once you do that, well, that's a horse of a different color.


Yes, I know the line can be fuzzy and, yes, I admit this means I am not committed to the hard form free speech position.  But with freedom of expression comes responsibility for what you say and when you advocate the death of others, then you must be held accountable. 

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 30, 2014 02:03 PM (Gk3SS)

63 The real reason the left wants to emulate Europe.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 30, 2014 02:03 PM (fT3qO)

64 Why do these idiots hate the Jews so much? I doubt any of them have been within 100 miles of one. Same with the idiot skinheads in Ohio and Idaho. I asked one in Idaho, "Have you even seen a Jew in real life?" He swore at me and said I was a Jew. Oookay.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 30, 2014 02:03 PM (J79eW)

65 This is why I never fly on Airbusses.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 30, 2014 02:03 PM (g7osp)

66 interesting how 'days' of rage ' came back.

so no real arab spring. or springtime for hitler?

nope they all start days of rage
weatherman>?

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2014 02:03 PM (nqBYe)

67 Let his blood be on us & our children.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 30, 2014 02:03 PM (HVff2)

68 I think it stems from the original Roman Church position that the Jews killed Jesus.

Now admittedly, the Jews at that time did cry for Jesus' blood but then it was claimed that that call tainted any Jews forevermore.

Which is dumb because of things Jesus (who was/is a Jew) himself said and other stuff in both the Old and New Testaments.


I don't think its religious, its ethnic hatred of the other.

Posted by: Jean at January 30, 2014 02:03 PM (4JkHl)

69 France is going down. In a ring of fire. A circus ring of fire

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker Swills Bushmills And Wears Prada at January 30, 2014 02:04 PM (GeVLX)

70 Why on earth would a stupid potato picker in Idaho have a bone to pick with a Jew??

Posted by: soothsayer at January 30, 2014 02:04 PM (g7osp)

71 Dieudonne? If I remember my elementary French, that means give me God or God giver. That some first class motherfucking irony right there

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 30, 2014 02:05 PM (GavrK)

72 17000 is not a particularly large number.

Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2014 02:05 PM (zqvg6)

73 Protestants killed off plenty of Jews, as did the Orthodox, Catholics just had a head start.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 30, 2014 02:05 PM (ZPrif)

74 France has always favored Islam more than any other Western European country which in many ways is ironic.

(and why  the riots of the "youths" in France always make me smirk as they're getting some of their own back.)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at January 30, 2014 02:05 PM (LSDdO)

75 Wonder what percentage of the crowd was Muslim? It'd be interesting if one were able to measure this over the last several years.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 30, 2014 02:05 PM (V4CBV)

76 Let them identify themselves so they can be known. Ban them from ever entering the US and then invite every Jew that wants to emigrate to the US to come. I have no love lost for savages like that because my mother's side of the family emigrated here because of them. I'd say other things but the banhammer might hurt, so I'll keep that to myself.

Posted by: Gmac-Pondering the coming implosion, and hoping its 404care at January 30, 2014 02:05 PM (baiNQ)

77 41.  That hate probably starts with a giant dose of envy,  Jewish culture must reward traits that often lead to economic success.  Other cultures are going to hate them rather than fixing their own faults.   Kind of like commies in general hating on "western values" 

Posted by: palerider at January 30, 2014 02:05 PM (dkExz)

78 I wish you racist Americans could be more like the racist Europeans. Or something.

Posted by: Billy Maher at January 30, 2014 02:05 PM (Aif/5)

79 Same with the idiot skinheads in Ohio and Idaho. I asked one in Idaho, "Have you even seen a Jew in real life?" Lotta that shit out west. Idaho, Eastern Oregon and Washington, too.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2014 02:05 PM (exFew)

80 70 Why on earth would a stupid potato picker in Idaho have a bone to pick with a Jew?? ================= As someone once said, all evil meets three times a day at Jew-Hate Junction.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 30, 2014 02:06 PM (P6QsQ)

81 I don't think its religious, its ethnic hatred of the other.

It's neither.  The French economy isn't doing well because of their idiotic policies, the marchers aren't doing well personally because they're not interested in working or assimilating.  Their failure can't be their fault, so it must be someone else's, and who better than the Jews? 

Posted by: pep at January 30, 2014 02:06 PM (6TB1Z)

82 Lotta that shit out west. Idaho, Eastern Oregon and Washington, too. Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2014 07:05 PM (exFew) *slooowly crosses off areas to go to with the telescope*

Posted by: CAC at January 30, 2014 02:06 PM (eie1R)

83 >>>Oops, Ace already hit this point. Maybe I should start reading posts before commenting. Just kidding! ... actually it wasn't in the post originally, but I added it as you were writing it, and about the same time another commenter above was noting it. It occurred to everyone sort of simultaneously.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 02:06 PM (/FnUH)

84 Fuck the frogs. They didn't support is when we liberated Iraq, fuck they didn't even support us when we fuckin well liberated France

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 30, 2014 02:06 PM (GavrK)

85 btw, a lot of people from MA (used to) to derogatorarily refer to people from Maine as potata pickas.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 30, 2014 02:07 PM (g7osp)

86 But seriously, folks, how many Jews can fit in a Volkswagen?

Posted by: --- at January 30, 2014 07:00 PM (MMC8r)

Six.....

Two in the front, two in the back....

And two in the ashtray.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 30, 2014 02:07 PM (QFxY5)

87 >>>The French are increasingly not, ethnically, French. Or culturally. They are still linguistically French. I think. It's not so ironic when you consider the original Franks were actually a Germanic tribe.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 30, 2014 02:07 PM (V4CBV)

88 Hopefully the Jews in France can get to Israel soon. It's only going to get worse after they import even more Muslims.

Posted by: Golem_master at January 30, 2014 02:07 PM (i6/+j)

89 who hasn't been thankful for Charlie Brown's Dildo?

Posted by: dillhole13 at January 30, 2014 02:07 PM (uURnG)

90 And ,in case anyone failed to notice,the French like the rest of Europe are not religious anymore.Except for the muslims.

Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2014 02:07 PM (zqvg6)

91 That hate probably starts with a giant dose of envy, Jewish culture must reward traits that often lead to economic success. Other cultures are going to hate them rather than fixing their own faults. Kind of like commies in general hating on "western values" Posted by: palerider at January 30, 2014 07:05 PM (dkExz) 1: Islam 2: Shame Culture. . . Prophet!

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker Swills Bushmills And Wears Prada at January 30, 2014 02:07 PM (GeVLX)

92 40 I just don't understand where their Jew-hatred is coming from.

Why do they hate the Jews? What is their reasoning?

Posted by: wheatie at January 30, 2014 06:59 PM (d+eIv)


No reasoning, Jews are just a convenient "other". Plus, Jew-hate has a long tradition in most European countries. In the aftermath of the Holocaust it kind of went underground for a couple of generations. Now it seems to be more acceptable and more common.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 30, 2014 02:08 PM (wcvVw)

93 No, for most of the history of Christianity the Jews (as in all Jews for all time) were assigned blame for the killing of Jesus. The Catholic Church specifically changed the Good Friday prayer that prayed for the forgiveness of the "perfidious Jews" after WW2 and the Holocaust.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 30, 2014 02:08 PM (ZPrif)

94 Ace, I agree with you that the government should be making martyrs of fools like this for "think[ing]" a certain way, or even for saying vile things like this. But there needs to be a firm and stern response that demonstrates that there will be no tolerance for any kind of rabble rousing or violence. The first bomb thrower will need a public and severe ass whipping from the law.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 30, 2014 02:08 PM (x1L8S)

95 I think it stems from the original Roman Church position that the Jews killed Jesus.

Now
admittedly, the Jews at that time did cry for Jesus' blood but then it
was claimed that that call tainted any Jews forevermore.

i've never understood this.
So Jews are to blame yet Jesus had to die in your tradition  to help cover for sin?

how can they have it Both ways?
srs question as i've never understood it.

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2014 02:08 PM (nqBYe)

96 "Wonder what percentage of the crowd was Muslim?" You misspelled "youths of indeterminate origin."

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 30, 2014 02:08 PM (fT3qO)

97 OT: allegedly Sandra Fluke is considering running for Waxman's seat. Because we need more stupid people in Congress.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 30, 2014 02:09 PM (102Hx)

98 33 can they all be eaten by a loup garou? Posted by: soothsayer at January 30, 2014 06:58 PM (g7osp)

I lol'd. Then honestly wished I could ship a crateful to France via Amazon.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2014 02:09 PM (BF+2f)

99 94>> should NOT be making... 

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 30, 2014 02:09 PM (x1L8S)

100 The muslims do it all the time ace,on one hand denying the Holocaust while at the same time saying " Hitler didn't do a good enough job at it".

Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2014 02:09 PM (zqvg6)

101 I think this is what happens when you have a 2 class society. You've got elitists who treat everyone else like shit and rabble who get violent and boorish at the least provocation.

So what we have here in France is what liberals thing WE will do every time a muslim blows up a bunch of people. This is how they see us, because they don't understand a middle class.

Posted by: WolfinNC at January 30, 2014 02:09 PM (Vvg+J)

102 From Gizmodo, how an Italian house almost rolled snake-eyes with two giant boulders.  The thing is, their farmland already had a boulder from a previous roll down the mountains.

http://tinyurl.com/kfn4egg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 30, 2014 02:10 PM (wL/ra)

103 ugh should i have adressed that?
i do not mean to insult anyone. I just haven't been able to understand it.

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2014 02:10 PM (nqBYe)

104 48 I think it stems from the original Roman Church position that the Jews killed Jesus.

Now admittedly, the Jews at that time did cry for Jesus' blood but then it was claimed that that call tainted any Jews forevermore.

Which is dumb because of things Jesus (who was/is a Jew) himself said and other stuff in both the Old and New Testaments.

God isn't about to give up on His Chosen People.

And that's not necessarily a good thing. YET.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at January 30, 2014 07:00 PM (LSDdO)

 

I don't really think its that.  I think you can find that it was the Protestant areas that were quicker to expel the Jews.  Pope's reacted very negatively to Crusades that went after Jewish people and even excommunicated them.  So its very likely something that is wholly separate from the Church position that inspires European Anti-Semitism.

Posted by: buzzion at January 30, 2014 02:10 PM (LI48c)

105 Lotta that shit out west. Idaho, Eastern Oregon and Washington, too. I went to Scout Camp in Coeur d'Alene, ID a couple of times. The first time they warned us not to go outside of camp because there was a big skinhead enclave just down the road. I don't know if that was exaggeration to keep us in line, but I did find out later there was in fact a big camp of the basterds in the area. I haven't seen much of that in WA, though I have spent very little time in Eastern WA.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 30, 2014 02:10 PM (J79eW)

106 the French are such silly babies! http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l8otrsac2c1qa4mo7o1_500.jpg

Posted by: soothsayer at January 30, 2014 02:10 PM (g7osp)

107 This is wild. France has a Terror Alert System like ours, color coded and everything, except it's been around since 1978. It's called Vigipirate -- which is in fact a portmanteau of what you think it is, vigilance + pirate. Pirate? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigipirate

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 02:10 PM (/FnUH)

108 There's an enormous amount of jew hatred in the UK too,and not just from the " Asians".

Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2014 02:11 PM (zqvg6)

109 Thees "Ace" characteur...does he have ze hook nose?

Posted by: Marcel Q. Publique at January 30, 2014 02:11 PM (pginn)

110 97 OT: allegedly Sandra Fluke is considering running for Waxman's seat. Because we need more stupid people in Congress. Posted by: Ian S. at January 30, 2014 07:09 PM (102Hx) Uh please please please. Nostrildamus the Hoohasdamus. FTW!

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker Swills Bushmills And Wears Prada at January 30, 2014 02:11 PM (GeVLX)

111 I have lived most of my 45 years in the south, and I have only ever met one racist. He was and old dude who is probably dead. I'm not saying I have never met anyone who does not have a bias or two, every one has bias, but real in your face racism? Never. I would think that being a white hetero southern male, I would be the last person that others would hide their racism from.

Posted by: traye at January 30, 2014 02:11 PM (f7Iot)

112 Perhaps President Penguin, in a break from riding his scooter back and forth between Julie's and the Presidential Palace will have something to say about this. Perhaps TFG will say something. Haha! Just kidding. They don't give a shit.

Posted by: MTF at January 30, 2014 02:11 PM (/VASf)

113 OT: allegedly Sandra Fluke is considering running for Waxman's seat. Because we need more stupid people in Congress. You can't run on your back, honey.

Posted by: --- at January 30, 2014 02:11 PM (MMC8r)

114 103 ugh should i have adressed that? i do not mean to insult anyone. I just haven't been able to understand it. Posted by: willow at January 30, 2014 07:10 PM (nqBYe) Wait for moo moo's answer, he is the end all, be all, don't cha know

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 30, 2014 02:11 PM (HVff2)

115 The long history of pogroms against the Jews across Europe during the past 2000 years is due to ethnic, but mostly religious, reasons. The masses were taught that the Jews (all Jews, all time) rejected and killed Jesus. The fact that they looked and dressed and talked different from the majority didn't help and made them an easier to target.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 30, 2014 02:11 PM (ZPrif)

116 Fuck this interesting times shit? I think that sums it up nicely. It was actually part of a three part curse. One of the other parts was 'may you become of interest to those in authority'. Disregard that part, comrade.

Posted by: The NSA [/i] at January 30, 2014 02:12 PM (oGrEy)

117 "allegedly Sandra Fluke is considering running for Waxman's seat." Are large orifices a requirement for that seat, or what?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 30, 2014 02:12 PM (fT3qO)

118 >>>Ace, I agree with you that the government should be making martyrs of fools like this for "think[ing]" a certain way, or even for saying vile things like this. But there needs to be a firm and stern response that demonstrates that there will be no tolerance for any kind of rabble rousing or violence. The first bomb thrower will need a public and severe ass whipping from the law. yeah but this stupid country tolerates all sorts of violent demonstrations at all times of the year. This stupid shit is broadly accepted as "speech." so I personally wouldn't accept any of this violent shit, but these idiots have accepted it as part of their national heritage. It's not legal, exactly, but it's tolerated. I guess we do the same thing here... but only with left wing protesters, of course!

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 02:13 PM (/FnUH)

119 Burn the Witch -

You win the interwebs. And you owe me a new keyboard.

Posted by: WolfinNC at January 30, 2014 02:13 PM (Vvg+J)

120 I think it stems from the original Roman Church position that the Jews killed Jesus. The major reason I've puzzled out is that christian noblemen were forbidden from charging interest on loans by the church. So noblemen employed jews to charge loans with interest. Even the Pope did. But this made Jews associated with money and -more tragically- with repossession or collection of debts. It didn't help that the noblemen would let the Jews take all the blame for their loans.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 30, 2014 02:13 PM (BNuW6)

121 Willow, the reason you can't make sense of it is because it is indeed senseless. Senseless and wicked. Jesus himself said, no man takes my life away. I lay it down myself. His whole purpose in coming was to die, rise again to conquer death, and to offer salvation to those who believe. His entire mission was dependent upon his crucifixion. He himself knew this. The blame is not on Jews. It is on the sins of us all which necessitated His sacrifice on our behalf. People hate Jews because, evil.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 30, 2014 02:13 PM (P6QsQ)

122 >>> OT: allegedly Sandra Fluke is considering running for Waxman's seat. Because we need more stupid people in Congress. holy eff, blogging armageddon.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 02:13 PM (/FnUH)

123 Omlette du fromage!

Posted by: Dexter at January 30, 2014 02:14 PM (EqGES)

124 '...AND everybody hate the Joos!'

Posted by: Mel Brooks at January 30, 2014 02:14 PM (exFew)

125 107 This is wild. France has a Terror Alert System like ours, color coded and everything, except it's been around since 1978. It's called Vigipirate -- which is in fact a portmanteau of what you think it is, vigilance + pirate. How many colors mean surrender?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 30, 2014 02:15 PM (BNuW6)

126 No reasoning, Jews are just a convenient "other". Plus, Jew-hate has a long tradition in most European countries. In the aftermath of the Holocaust it kind of went underground for a couple of generations. Now it seems to be more acceptable and more common.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 30, 2014 07:08 PM (wcvVw)

________________

It never really went underground.  Father in Law was liberated from Buchenwald 69 years ago this week.  He tried to stay on in Germany after the war but could not stand the outward hostility toward him because he was a Polish Jew so he emigrated to Israel.  There are many many more like him.  He always told me it was just a matter of time before it happened again.  I never believed him until only recently I am seeing that he is/was correct.  I am just happy that he is not around to see it.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at January 30, 2014 02:15 PM (jucos)

127 OT: allegedly Sandra Fluke is considering running for Waxman's seat. Because we need more stupid people in Congress. YESSS!

Posted by: Marv Albert at January 30, 2014 02:15 PM (exFew)

128 ace , yep the left And  unfortunately libertarians
no war, rich bankers, no war for Israel. at the demonstrations  specially during Boosh;'s term.

 so.

it makes it difficult to swing anything but independant or republican.

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2014 02:15 PM (nqBYe)

129 Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 30, 2014 07:11 PM (ZPrif)

And it started long before Martin Luther and as we see, continues today. For whatever reason.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at January 30, 2014 02:15 PM (LSDdO)

130 75 Wonder what percentage of the crowd was Muslim? It'd be interesting if one were able to measure this over the last several years. Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 30, 2014 07:05 PM (V4CBV

There are a few occasions where I wonder how our world history would be different had Abraham just trusted in God and kept it in his pants until God's promise to him was fulfilled. There are lovely people in those regions, even lovely Muslims, but sheesh what a mess.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2014 02:15 PM (BF+2f)

131 Scapegoating is always easy. Blaming everything on one person or a minority that can't answer in like volume reaches the lowest common denominator. And that's the one thing everyone else can unify against.

Posted by: tasker at January 30, 2014 02:15 PM (RJMhd)

132 holy eff, blogging armageddon. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 07:13 PM (/FnUH) We're gonna need a bigger flaming skull

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker Swills Bushmills And Wears Prada at January 30, 2014 02:16 PM (GeVLX)

133 I never got the whole Jews killed Jesus thing. Actually it was the Romans. And Pontius Pilate gets a bum rap in the whole deal. He didn't want any part of that shit

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 30, 2014 02:16 PM (YAV1e)

134 131.Here they are setting it up to blame it all on " Tea Partiers".

Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2014 02:16 PM (zqvg6)

135 Posted by: traye at January 30, 2014 07:11 PM (f7Iot)

You need to spend more time in the Northeast.

We've got plenty of 'em.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 30, 2014 02:16 PM (QFxY5)

136 allegedly Sandra Fluke is considering running for Waxman's seat. FINALLY, a politician you know in advance is going to fuck you.

Posted by: --- at January 30, 2014 02:16 PM (MMC8r)

137 Casse-toi, is more like, "beat-it"; go away

Posted by: @ParisParamus at January 30, 2014 02:17 PM (x0qW/)

138

"I guess we do the same thing here... but only with left wing protesters, of course!"

 

Bill Ayers agrees...

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 30, 2014 02:17 PM (x1L8S)

139 oh beat it, that makes more sense. At least I can see how you get from "break" to "get out."

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 02:17 PM (/FnUH)

140 Note..... these are IMMIGRANTS.... If people do not believe immigrants can be Racist.... please come to my home town in Central California... where as a White Guy, there are businesses and bars where I am NOT welcome...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 30, 2014 02:17 PM (84gbM)

141 122 >>> OT: allegedly Sandra Fluke is considering running for Waxman's seat. Because we need more stupid people in Congress. holy eff, blogging armageddon. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 07:13 PM (/FnUH) ********* She's trolling. Probably best not to touch it--or something.

Posted by: tasker at January 30, 2014 02:17 PM (RJMhd)

142 Since the thread is over 100 comments and we haven't played "give Polliwog attention" lately: Just got back from 8+ hours in the ER, and another 4 at the medical imaging office (with about 5 hours of sleep on my sister's couch) to try and find out why 14 year-old Son suddenly had a seizure yesterday. No answers so far, but at least he's feeling better.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 30, 2014 02:17 PM (GDulk)

143 We're gonna need a bigger flaming skull Posted by: The Hobo Hooker Swills Bushmills And Wears Prada at January 30, 2014 07:16 PM (GeVLX)

I, for one, do not welcome our new flaming hoohah overlord.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 30, 2014 02:18 PM (Gk3SS)

144 holy eff, blogging armageddon. Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 07:13 PM (/FnUH) We're gonna need a bigger flaming skull Tube of Zovirax

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2014 02:18 PM (exFew)

145 gramma winger, thanks for answering, i know it's a touchy thing.

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2014 02:18 PM (nqBYe)

146 It looks like a good number are indigenous Frogs. Nice that they can align with recent immigrants against French Jews who have lived in the country for centuries. Big Tent Anti-Semitism!

Posted by: All Hail Eris at January 30, 2014 02:18 PM (QBm1P)

147 Throw the Jew down the well! So my country can be free! (So my country can be free!)

Posted by: Borat at January 30, 2014 02:18 PM (ZEvg7)

148 Any idea how Fluke is polling?

Posted by: --- at January 30, 2014 02:18 PM (MMC8r)

149 133 I never got the whole Jews killed Jesus thing. Actually it was the Romans. And Pontius Pilate gets a bum rap in the whole deal. He didn't want any part of that shit I have a hard time believing the Church ever advocated a position besides *us* being responsible for Jesus' death. I always grew up hearing that *we*, as in mankind, killed Jesus. I can't believe that was a recent concept.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 30, 2014 02:18 PM (BNuW6)

150 Well, I think this Dieudonne asshole is useful. he serves as a stalking horse which induces all the Jew-haters in the area to out themselves. Condemned out of their own mouths, they are. Jews, friends of Jews, and rational people in general should be out there with cameras, and audio recorders, and try to get a good shot and voice sample of every one of those pukes, so when the burning times come, they can be hunted down and, er, reasoned with. IYKWIMAITTYD

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2014 02:19 PM (60Q+L)

151 Polliwog That's scary. Is your son home?

Posted by: grammie winger at January 30, 2014 02:19 PM (P6QsQ)

152 Fluke news doesn't get a flaming skull, just a burning sensation.

Posted by: --- at January 30, 2014 02:19 PM (MMC8r)

153 Herr, that's the way i read the issue.

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2014 02:19 PM (nqBYe)

154 Hell there is no resisting that story is there? Resistance is futile.

Posted by: tasker at January 30, 2014 02:19 PM (RJMhd)

155
Just got back from 8+ hours in the ER, and another 4 at the medical imaging office (with about 5 hours of sleep on my sister's couch) to try and find out why 14 year-old Son suddenly had a seizure yesterday. No answers so far, but at least he's feeling better. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 30, 2014 07:17 PM (GDulk)



Polliwog, prayers for you and yours.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at January 30, 2014 02:19 PM (Gk3SS)

156 Polli, I was wondering where you've been lately.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 30, 2014 02:19 PM (g7osp)

157 148 Any idea how Fluke is polling? Posted by: --- at January 30, 2014 07:18 PM (MMC8r) ISWYDT even if you didn't

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker Swills Bushmills And Wears Prada at January 30, 2014 02:20 PM (GeVLX)

158 121>> Well stated ma'am

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 30, 2014 02:20 PM (L2I78)

159 That reminds me, I miss HOUSE.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 30, 2014 02:20 PM (g7osp)

160 >>Any idea how Fluke is polling? Posted by: --- Up and down.

Posted by: Aviator at January 30, 2014 02:21 PM (DI+ja)

161 If people do not believe immigrants can be Racist.... please come to my home town in Central California... where as a White Guy, there are businesses and bars where I am NOT welcome... ------- Never fear friend, everything will be better soon.

Posted by: DOPe at January 30, 2014 02:21 PM (Aif/5)

162 155 Just got back from 8+ hours in the ER, and another 4 at the medical imaging office (with about 5 hours of sleep on my sister's couch) to try and find out why 14 year-old Son suddenly had a seizure yesterday. No answers so far, but at least he's feeling better. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 30, 2014 07:17 PM (GDulk) I hope everything goes well. Hopefully it was a one-time thing.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 30, 2014 02:21 PM (BNuW6)

163 Polliwogette, dang sorry to hear that.  Prayers and well wishes for you and your son.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 30, 2014 02:21 PM (wL/ra)

164 If people do not believe immigrants can be Racist.... please come to my home town in Central California... where as a White Guy, there are businesses and bars where I am NOT welcome... I served a Spanish speaking mission. Whenever I go to the Mercado to get some legit Spanish food supplies I get the hairy eyeball until I pointedly ask some questions of the store manager in Spanish.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 30, 2014 02:21 PM (J79eW)

165 Polliwog -

Oof, that's scary. Had that happen to me when I was in HS, too. Turned out to be a benign thing, so it's not always something horrible. Prayers and hugs for you and your son.

Posted by: WolfinNC at January 30, 2014 02:22 PM (Vvg+J)

166 Posted by: willow at January 30, 2014 07:15 PM (nqBYe) I think you mischaracterize the Libertarian position. Libertarians are NOT anti War... but we are Anti War against those who have not actually attacked us.... and we are anti trying to 'Fix' their governments... A Libertarian war is one where we go in and trash the shit out of our enemy.... then leave. If needed? Rinse and Repeat... And its nasty mean vicious War... including against the Civilian population which MUST be in support of said evil Government, or they would overthrow it... (note... Iran does vote in its Government... ).

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 30, 2014 02:22 PM (84gbM)

167 And speaking of blaming others.  Ray Nagin's federal grand jury has been sworn in to hear the corruption case against him.  Making money off the Katrina rebuilding, that will not sit well with many.  Say hello to Club Fed for 20 years you slug.

http://tinyurl.com/ka5p2mo

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 30, 2014 02:23 PM (wL/ra)

168 See wingnuts?...uhhhhh, I've united the world!...now everyone hates the, ummmm, Jews!

Posted by: TEH WON at January 30, 2014 02:23 PM (kmLUz)

169 Yes, the Europeans are so much our cultural and intellectual betters




this didn't need a sarc tag, did it?

Posted by: phreshone at January 30, 2014 02:23 PM (Pr6hk)

170 I would think the French have bigger problems than the Jews, unless they managed to deport all those Arabs when I wasn't paying attention. According to the story ace linked the French Jews are moving to Israel in increasing numbers anyway, so shouldn't they be having a party instead of an angry march?

Posted by: kartoffel at January 30, 2014 02:24 PM (07vvi)

171 thanks Romeo for that clarification.

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2014 02:24 PM (nqBYe)

172 Prayers for your son and for you too, Polliwog.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 30, 2014 02:24 PM (7kkQJ)

173 Quite frankly Jews don't belong in Europe.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2014 02:24 PM (nzKvP)

174 Posted by: bonhomme at January 30, 2014 07:21 PM (J79eW) America: still less racist than every other country in history.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at January 30, 2014 02:25 PM (ZEvg7)

175 Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 30, 2014 07:23 PM (wL/ra) hey are the same anna puma as the one I friended on FB?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2014 02:25 PM (nzKvP)

176

AC-130 gunship with a full load out.

A squadron of A-10's with cluster bombs and napalm. 

 

Problem solved. 

Posted by: rd at January 30, 2014 02:25 PM (D+lxs)

177 Claiming it was due to the "Roman Church" is a bit silly. I give you Martin Luther's book "The Jews and Their Lies". from wiki -- In the treatise, Luther describes Jews as a "base, whoring people, that is, no people of God, and their boast of lineage, circumcision, and law must be accounted as filth." Luther wrote that they are "full of the devil's feces ... which they wallow in like swine," and the synagogue is an "incorrigible whore and an evil slut".

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 30, 2014 02:25 PM (ZPrif)

178 Quite frankly Jews don't belong in Europe.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2014 07:24 PM (nzKvP)

-------------------------

^THIS^.  Have relatives in France still who are now looking for an out.  Maybe Israel. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at January 30, 2014 02:25 PM (jucos)

179 ok need to get to the dishes.
be well.

Posted by: willow at January 30, 2014 02:26 PM (nqBYe)

180 173 Quite frankly Jews don't belong in Europe. Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2014 07:24 PM (nzKvP) For many it was a triumph of hope over experience.

Posted by: The Hobo Hooker Swills Bushmills And Wears Prada at January 30, 2014 02:26 PM (GeVLX)

181 Ah, that peaceful, jew-loving reformation.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 30, 2014 02:26 PM (ZPrif)

182 America: still less racist than every other country in history. Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at January 30, 2014 07:25 PM (ZEvg7) Yes but the more left it goes, the less that will be true.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2014 02:26 PM (nzKvP)

183 We eat babies, we drink pee We must be French, French, french !

Posted by: toby928 at January 30, 2014 02:26 PM (QupBk)

184 Posted by: grammie winger at January 30, 2014 07:19 PM (P6QsQ) Yes, they didn't admit him since he was fine by the time an ER doctor saw him 6 hours after the incident. Thank God my sister is a neurosurgery PA and was sitting next to him when it happened so can explain it to the various doctors.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 30, 2014 02:27 PM (GDulk)

185 Yes but the more left it goes, the less that will be true It isn't racism when white people are the targets.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 30, 2014 02:27 PM (BNuW6)

186 This thing is getting out of control and we are not going to live through it.

Posted by: Ralph q. Esq. at January 30, 2014 02:27 PM (tc40V)

187 Nevergiveup, you the mug in the whites I befriended on FB? 

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 30, 2014 02:27 PM (wL/ra)

188 More wiki, from Martin Luther's own hand: In the first ten sections of the treatise, Luther expounds, at considerable length, upon his views concerning Jews and Judaism and how these compare against Christians and Christianity. Following this exposition, Section XI of the treatise advises Christians to carry out seven remedial actions. These are - for Jewish synagogues and schools to be burned to the ground, and the remnants buried out of sight; for houses owned by Jews to be likewise razed, and the owners made to live in agricultural outbuildings; for their religious writings to be taken away; for rabbis to be forbidden to preach, and to be executed if they do; for safe conduct on the roads to be abolished for Jews; for usury to be prohibited, and for all silver and gold to be removed and "put aside for safekeeping"; and for the Jewish population to be put to work as agricultural slave laborers.[4]

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 30, 2014 02:27 PM (ZPrif)

189 Somewhat O/T, but the fact that most liberals believe that we conservatives secretly harbor hatred like this in our hearts is sickening. The idea that some people actually do feel like this is even more sickening.

Posted by: WolfinNC at January 30, 2014 02:28 PM (Vvg+J)

190 Nevergiveup, you the mug in the whites I befriended on FB? Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 30, 2014 07:27 PM (wL/ra) Yup.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2014 02:29 PM (nzKvP)

191 how about a Day Of Soap, frenchies, eh?

Posted by: soothsayer at January 30, 2014 02:29 PM (g7osp)

192 I give you Martin Luther's book "The Jews and Their Lies". Lex Luthor's Grandpa, right? Had a whole mess of kids, called them Lutherans?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 30, 2014 02:29 PM (J79eW)

193 Jew-hatred was widely preached by both Catholics and Protestants and Orthodox for centuries. That's the main reason for jew-hatred in Europe. Jew-hatred has been widely preached by Islam for centuries as well.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 30, 2014 02:29 PM (ZPrif)

194 Yes but the more left it goes, the less that will be true. Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2014 07:26 PM (nzKvP) Yeeeeep...

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at January 30, 2014 02:29 PM (ZEvg7)

195 The French are lost. Sad. I was in Paris for the Millenium. Glorious. Will. Not. Return.

Posted by: simplemind at January 30, 2014 02:30 PM (hTeQK)

196 Jew-hatred has been widely preached by Islam for centuries as well. Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 30, 2014 07:29 PM (ZPrif) Well not according to the smartest man in the room

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2014 02:30 PM (nzKvP)

197 Ace, You are a total hypocrite by doing this post. In your previous post you're on recording stating that you are leaving the Republican Party due to their new sane immigration stance. Yet here you are condemning people in France who want to kick Jews out their country. What makes your anti-Latino stance different form these Nazis and their anti-Jewish stance. If you were in France I bet you and your merry band of bigots would be supporting these roaches. I am glad racists like you are leaving the Republican party. I salute Paul Ryan for bringing back the party back to its tolerant Lincolnist roots. Bye bye Ace and do not let the door hit you and your reactionary friends on the way out! The Republican party will not miss Klansmen like you.

Posted by: Lincoln Republican at January 30, 2014 02:30 PM (EszTV)

198 Did Obama mean Oui Ouied up.

Cause these fuckers seem to be just that.

Posted by: The Hickster at January 30, 2014 02:30 PM (TI3xG)

199 *waves to Nevergiveup*

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 30, 2014 02:31 PM (wL/ra)

200 Those who do not learn from history are....oh eff it, it is obvious we are way beyond the point where any learning from history would actually take place.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 30, 2014 02:31 PM (RZ8pf)

201 OT: Victor Davis Hanson is on Mark Levin's show! They just went into a break, but he'll be back.

Posted by: rickl at January 30, 2014 02:31 PM (sdi6R)

202 Thank you everyone. Knowing the Horde has our backs (even mostly just digitally) does make a difference. Son has an appointment with a pediatric neurologist tomorrow morning. I'm definitly getting a preview of the benefit of having a medical "in" during the burning times.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 30, 2014 02:31 PM (GDulk)

203 I think Ace stole this line from me years ago:

"Humans.  Not a fan."

Posted by: tangonine at January 30, 2014 02:31 PM (x3YFz)

204 France was late to party in the Protestant Reformation, weren't they. Posted by: wheatie at January 30, 2014 07:02 PM (d+eIv) Eh. You might want to read what Martin Luther had to say about the Jews. Not zactly a fount of tolerance and modern enlightenment was Martin Luther.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 30, 2014 02:31 PM (KBvAm)

205 This Lincoln Republican is a sock, right?

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 30, 2014 02:32 PM (J79eW)

206 Usually rants are bit more humorous, but I don't think mr lincoln R will be around to much longer

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2014 02:32 PM (nzKvP)

207 Whooeee... need a little cleanup on Aisle 3. Got troll all over the floor.

Posted by: WolfinNC at January 30, 2014 02:32 PM (Vvg+J)

208 181 Ah, that peaceful, jew-loving reformation. ============= To be fair, the Christian evangelical movement came out of the Reformation and as a block they are probably the biggest supporters of Israel and the Jewish people around. Martin Luther went a little bat shit crazy towards the end of his life. He was royally pissed that his evangelization efforts did not convert the Jews of his day.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 30, 2014 02:32 PM (P6QsQ)

209 As a professional in Catholic schools, I 'mentioned' to the children, when the topic arose, that Jesus was Jewish. But there's a Venn diagram of goodness in teaching which involves three circles; the parents, the students, and the administration. Hit all three and you're good. Miss one... see ya. One of them was not happy with me, and it wasn't the parents or the students.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at January 30, 2014 02:32 PM (oGrEy)

210 Posted by: Lincoln Republican at January 30, 2014 07:30 PM (EszTV) Is Mary Cloggenstein using socks now?

Posted by: rickl at January 30, 2014 02:32 PM (sdi6R)

211 *waves to Nevergiveup* Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 30, 2014 07:31 PM (wL/ra) Yup, nice to put a face to a nic or name

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2014 02:32 PM (nzKvP)

212 Is that you Hector? Troof teller and bringer of the fax?

Posted by: Adam at January 30, 2014 02:33 PM (Aif/5)

213 Polliwog adding my prayers. Glad your sister is there to help you communicate with the doctors.

Posted by: Paranoidgirlinseattle at January 30, 2014 02:33 PM (RZ8pf)

214 Posted by: Lincoln Republican at January 30, 2014 07:30 PM (EszTV)

You're joking right? Right?

for one thing it's not anti latino, it's anti law breaker.

Crossing the border without permission is a felony (?)

making , purchasing or possessing false identification is a felony.

Impersonating another person is a felony?

Misrepresenting ones citizenship on legal documents is a felony.

See? LAW. BREAKERS.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at January 30, 2014 02:33 PM (LSDdO)

215 202 Thank you everyone. Knowing the Horde has our backs (even mostly just digitally) does make a difference. Son has an appointment with a pediatric neurologist tomorrow morning. I'm definitly getting a preview of the benefit of having a medical "in" during the burning times.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 30, 2014 07:31 PM (GDulk)

Late to the thread, but Polli, the words "pediatric neurologist"

Our prayers.

Posted by: tangonine at January 30, 2014 02:33 PM (x3YFz)

216 That better be a sock.

Posted by: kartoffel at January 30, 2014 02:33 PM (07vvi)

217 All trolls are Average Joe.

Posted by: toby928 at January 30, 2014 02:33 PM (QupBk)

218

 If people do not believe immigrants can be Racist.... please come to my home town in Central California... where as a White Guy, there are businesses and bars where I am NOT welcome...

 

 

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There are areas even here in OKC where white people don't even drive through after dark.  We have  a large contingent of MS13 gang members that have taken over some of the neighborhoods.  Thanks open-borders people.

Posted by: Soona at January 30, 2014 02:34 PM (5PeyL)

219 Regular Moron -

Wait, now its bad to acknowledge that Jesus was Jewish? C'mon, you're joking.

Posted by: WolfinNC at January 30, 2014 02:34 PM (Vvg+J)

220 Weird, I just called the chinese joint for delivery and a man with an American accent answered. It stymied me for a few seconds. First time that's ever happened.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 30, 2014 02:34 PM (g7osp)

221

Christianity is just a branch grafted on to Judaism's tree.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at January 30, 2014 02:34 PM (jucos)

222 Is that you Hector? Troof teller and bringer of the fax? And apparent anti-semite.

Posted by: toby928 at January 30, 2014 02:34 PM (QupBk)

223 ... aaaand it's Hector

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 30, 2014 02:34 PM (30eLQ)

224 Considering that as heinous as Judaism hatred was in Europe the fact that most of Europe is entirely secular now, I would say the hatred of Jews has more to do with rising levels of militant Islamic immigration combined with unemploymwent. As someone above noted the French are very bigoted against immigrants-many of who come from Muslim countries. That dovetails very "nicely: with Muslims being unemployed and also hating Jews and with the strong anti Jewish propoganda done-not currently by Protestants or Catholics but by Muslim countries.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 30, 2014 02:35 PM (7kkQJ)

225 221 Christianity is just a branch grafted on to Judaism's tree. ============= Yep.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 30, 2014 02:36 PM (P6QsQ)

226 That's a little too on the nose to not be a sock. Nice touch with the "sane" bit, though. Anyone using the words "sane" or "insane" in political discussions is 100% a liberal.

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at January 30, 2014 02:36 PM (ZEvg7)

227 and that's why Calvin > Luther

Posted by: soothsayer at January 30, 2014 02:36 PM (g7osp)

228 Huh? Christianity clearly developed out of Judaism, but the whole Jesus thing is a little more than a branch, I think.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 30, 2014 02:36 PM (ZPrif)

229 >>you and your reactionary friends

That's a compliment, you know.

Posted by: kartoffel at January 30, 2014 02:36 PM (07vvi)

230 As to free speech comments upthread, I'm in the your right to do that stop where my rights start. Assuming Jews have rights (they do, same God gave them to them that gave them to me) then this type of speech crosses over the line into my rights, were I one of the apparently hated Jews in France.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at January 30, 2014 02:36 PM (ojnk6)

231 Weird, I just called the Chinese joint for delivery and a man with an American accent answered. I had a Chinese guy fake me out by doing an over the top Chinese accent with me. I didn't know if he was just having fun or what until he turned and talked with his co-worker in a LA accent. I don't know what brought it on either. I was just looking at the sushi rolls.

Posted by: bonhomme[/i][/b][/i][/b][/s][/s] at January 30, 2014 02:37 PM (J79eW)

232 EU Marks Holocaust Remembrance Day Without Ever Mentioning Jews… Weasel Zippers:

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 30, 2014 02:37 PM (nzKvP)

233 Posted by: tangonine at January 30, 2014 07:33 PM (x3YFz) Yeah pediatric neurologists aren't a group I ever thought of in conjunction with my family, even the teenagers. The neurosurgeon my sister PAs for graciously fead the MRI as soon as it was done and didn't see any obvious abnormalities (thank G-d so much, especially with his dad dying of cancer) but thought a pediatric specialist looking at it might notice something he'd missed.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 30, 2014 02:37 PM (GDulk)

234 and that's why Calvin > Luther

I've always like his Snowman House of Horrors.

Posted by: HR at January 30, 2014 02:37 PM (ZKzrr)

235 Posted by: Lincoln Republican at January 30, 2014 07:30 PM (EszTV)


Wow. You ever hear of logic.
Do stupid much?

Posted by: Dandolo at January 30, 2014 02:38 PM (0XBx+)

236 >>>Posted by: Lincoln Republican

Almost so good, I didn't catch the sock.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Laughing Maniacally While Throwing Matches. at January 30, 2014 02:38 PM (0q2P7)

237 Actually if someone does use the word 'sane' in relation to politics, then that someone is a former KGB psychologist with a cabinet full of happy juice to inject you with.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at January 30, 2014 02:38 PM (wL/ra)

238 (even mostly just digitally) We live inside your computer.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 30, 2014 02:38 PM (g7osp)

239 228 Huh? Christianity clearly developed out of Judaism, but the whole Jesus thing is a little more than a branch, I think. ============ Romans 11. "Grafted in".

Posted by: grammie winger at January 30, 2014 02:38 PM (P6QsQ)

240 Willow!

New post up.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (13th Level SoCon) at January 30, 2014 02:38 PM (LSDdO)

241 167>> Ain't gonna happen AP. He's a black Democrat and its a federal charge. Eric the Red will let him skate.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 30, 2014 02:39 PM (L2I78)

242 I think jew hatred taps into the same vile emotion that motivates the occupy asshole and their 1% noise -- envy and willingness to join a mob to go after the "other" in order to justify their own patheticness. This is the opposite of the TEA Party motivation which just wants to be left alone.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 30, 2014 02:39 PM (LWu6U)

243 You are a total hypocrite.  Immigration is all about Pablo Tomas Hijo de Andre and how much he hates people like you who believe in the Randian monomyth, especially the part where the Mexicans throw the girl in the volcano in Philadelphia, but you're too dense to understand that.  Go watch slides from your vacation to the Kaboom factory.

Posted by: LINCOLN ERG! at January 30, 2014 02:39 PM (9F2c1)

244 Quite frankly Jews don't belong in Europe.

This is the most depressing thing I've read today.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 30, 2014 02:39 PM (30eLQ)

245 I've always liked his Snowman House of Horrors. Color me: intrigued. Aware me more.

Posted by: soothsayer at January 30, 2014 02:40 PM (g7osp)

246 that doesn't prove anything

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at January 30, 2014 02:40 PM (ZPrif)

247 Wait, now its bad to acknowledge that Jesus was Jewish? C'mon, you're joking. There are certain levels of so-cons, as Ace has acknowledged. Some 'parental units' have a strong belief that human footprint's exist right next to dinosaur footprints. Because tar sands or something. From year to year, in the classroom, you never know what you'll hit. Nor how the administration will react. I'm afraid I might have laughed inappropriately.

Posted by: Regular Moron [/i] at January 30, 2014 02:41 PM (oGrEy)

248 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 30, 2014 07:37 PM (GDulk)

Prayers for you and your son from moi!

Posted by: Hrothgar at January 30, 2014 02:41 PM (o3MSL)

249

Does anybody else remember Mr. Pol, a French Jew who used to post at LGF back when it was still sane?  He said it was bad over there and he was looking into emigrating to Israel.

I thought of him, watching this.  I wonder if he got out.

 

Posted by: Donna V. at January 30, 2014 02:42 PM (R3gO3)

250 There is a country called Israel with a fabulous military and brave people willing to put their life on the line.. Jews are not helpless people that can't defend themselves. Stories like these are very insulting to Jews who are not helpless cowards. I can't get worked up over aww those poor Jews stories like this. Especially coming from people who are on a website that is advocating ethnic cleansing. The Republicans today told you Klansmen to leave the party of Lincoln. Authentic Republicans are taking our party back from the white supremacists.

Posted by: Lincoln Republican at January 30, 2014 02:42 PM (EszTV)

251 245 I've always liked his Snowman House of Horrors. Color me: intrigued. Aware me more. Posted by: soothsayer at January 30, 2014 07:40 PM (g7osp) Here you go. http://www.wagnerstudios.org/Calvin_and_Hobbes_Snowmen.htm

Posted by: rickl at January 30, 2014 02:43 PM (sdi6R)

252 Snowman House of Horrors http://is.gd/62cvhA

Posted by: toby928 at January 30, 2014 02:44 PM (QupBk)

253 There is a country called Israel with a fabulous military and brave people willing to throw girls into volcanoes in Philadelphia. Jews are not helpless people that can't understand Paul Thomas Anderson movies. Stories like these are very insulting to Jews who are not believers in the Randian monomyth like you.

Posted by: LINCOLN ERG! at January 30, 2014 02:45 PM (9F2c1)

254 There is a country called Israel with a fabulous military and brave people willing to put their life on the line. Which would be a foreign country to French Jews.

Posted by: toby928 at January 30, 2014 02:45 PM (QupBk)

255 You guys are just jealous I have a Brazilian super model wife and I go to the gym a lot.

Posted by: Hector Lincoln, Troof Teller and Bringer of Fax at January 30, 2014 02:46 PM (Aif/5)

256 This whole thing kind of vindicates the necessity of the creation of Israel after WWII, as sad as it is to see. It was both guilt and by necessity. And to the moron above who equates being against "Illegal" Immigration and this crap: You are an idiot. We are not, as you put it, anti-immigrant. I think I speak for most (if not all) here when I say: We love immigrants who come here legally. They are what makes this country great. How is it asking too much to ask people to go through the legal path to citizenship that already exists? We have come to a bizarre land where saying that you do not approve of someone doing something illegal is equated with gas chambers and Kristallnacht. What a world.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2014 02:46 PM (TGgNi)

257 Which would be a foreign country to French Jews. Please don't be so logical with the troll.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 30, 2014 02:50 PM (7kkQJ)

258 the term "racism" literally has no purpose other than to be used as a weapon against enemies of the left. I don't think it makes any sense to have a violent demonstration against Jews, but discussing which countries and people are more or less racist is playing the left's game and that game has only one winner, and it's not anyone on the right.

Posted by: Golem_master at January 30, 2014 02:51 PM (i6/+j)

259 >>>There is a country called Israel with a fabulous military and brave people willing to put their life on the line.. Jews are not helpless people that can't defend themselves. Stories like these are very insulting to Jews who are not helpless cowards. I can't get worked up over aww those poor Jews stories like this. Especially coming from people who are on a website that is advocating ethnic cleansing. The Republicans today told you Klansmen to leave the party of Lincoln. Authentic Republicans are taking our party back from the white supremacists. ... you misspelled "I'm a mewling cunt and a dum-dum"

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 02:51 PM (/FnUH)

260 Aetius451AD Your time controlling the Republican Party is over. The heirs of Lincoln are back in charge and are showing you the door. Tell George Wallace and Jefferson Davis, that true Republicans say rot in hell!

Posted by: Lincoln Republican at January 30, 2014 02:53 PM (EszTV)

261 Why render a fake Nazi salute when you can be just like mainstream "palestinians" and do the real thing?:

http://tinyurl.com/n7a6uxw


Yep.  Let's give 'em a country, and on top of that, demonize the Israelis for not wanting to.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 30, 2014 02:55 PM (TM1p8)

262 ace Klansmen like you are no longer wanted in the Party of Lincoln. Bye bye loser!

Posted by: Lincoln Republican at January 30, 2014 02:55 PM (EszTV)

263 260 Wow, you are a strawman burnin' machine. To quote: "Whoa. whoa!... nice shootin Tex!"

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2014 02:57 PM (TGgNi)

264 Oh dear. Hector's loose. Quick - someone grab the kiddie gate.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 30, 2014 02:57 PM (P6QsQ)

265 Posted by: grammie winger at January 30, 2014 07:57 PM (P6QsQ) He's certainly well named. A veritable expert at the art of hectoring.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 30, 2014 02:58 PM (GDulk)

266 just what i needed: yet another reason to despise the Fwench.

next time, i say we let the Germans keep them.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 30, 2014 02:59 PM (q+fqH)

267 Lincoln Republican at January 30, 2014 07:53 PM (EszTV) Your ideas intrigue me and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: Adolf H [/i] at January 30, 2014 03:00 PM (oGrEy)

268 you misspelled "I'm a mewling cunt and a dum-dum"

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 07:51 PM (/FnUH)

so good it deserves to be poasted twice.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 30, 2014 03:01 PM (q+fqH)

269 A perfect anthem for this blog. http://tinyurl.com/mxdam27

Posted by: Lincoln Republican at January 30, 2014 03:04 PM (EszTV)

270 you know what's a really great anthem for this blog? There's this awesome song called "Banhammer," and it just rocks.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 03:08 PM (/FnUH)

271 Hector is the MSNBC of blog commenters.

Posted by: toby928 at January 30, 2014 03:10 PM (QupBk)

272 The success of the Left these last 25 years is not surprising once you realize they had had NO opposition party.

Posted by: Rufus T Firefly at January 30, 2014 03:11 PM (Qm24A)

273 Greetings: This has yet to be reported on France24's news programming as of 5pm PST.

Posted by: 11B40 at January 30, 2014 03:11 PM (RuY0z)

274 oh no I banned him just like Cahrles Johnson

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 03:11 PM (/FnUH)

275 268 Greetings: This has yet to be reported on France24's news programming as of 5pm PST. =============== So your media is no better than ours, eh? My condolences.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 30, 2014 03:15 PM (P6QsQ)

276 oh no I banned him

just like Cahrles Johnson

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 08:11 PM (/FnUH)

____________________

KABOOM!

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at January 30, 2014 03:16 PM (jucos)

277
and there are more than a few of these types that are obama's buddies, samantha power and susan rice for two.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 30, 2014 03:23 PM (n0DEs)

278 >>>This has yet to be reported on France24's news programming as of 5pm PST. well the story is actually 2-3 days old -- it might have already have been covered when it was fresh.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 03:43 PM (/FnUH)

279 I think this happened Jan 26th.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2014 03:43 PM (/FnUH)

280 BBC world service radio was on this story hard two nights ago.


Not saying this is old news, just noting the coverage.

Posted by: 13times at January 30, 2014 04:03 PM (fGPLK)

281 If the Zionists did not oppress the poor people of Palestine, loot the treasuries of the world through international banking, or dominate evil corporations that fund illegal right-wing wars against brown people, correctly-thinking persons would not hate them so much. But they have done all this and more for thousands of years. Once again. Europe is so much further along the road to progress than the hateful, backward United States.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at January 30, 2014 06:03 PM (Yg+nf)

282 You owe Pamela Geller an apology, ace She called this shit out in 2007.

Posted by: Derak at January 30, 2014 06:04 PM (j1DV1)

283 Mary, give it a fucking rest that ain't parody and you and your vile sock are one ugly fukcg creature. Go back to zero hedge where you can parade you're pornographic avatar.

Posted by: Derak at January 30, 2014 06:08 PM (j1DV1)

284 Let's see here:

This means something like: "Jew, get the hell out, France is not for you."

Or as one Governor Cuomo might say:

"Conservative, get the hell out, NY is not for you."

Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at January 30, 2014 06:10 PM (LsJAk)

285 It is hard to believe this expanding French movement ignores the catastrophic damage to Europe,and to Jewish, Gypsy, Slavic and a host of other targeted populations; when this insane movement dominated and tore Europe apart during the 20th century. A century has not passed since ten million people were destroyed by genocidal rage, and France watches in silence while they walk their streets and exalt race hatred once again.

Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at January 30, 2014 06:58 PM (KBR4k)

286 Day of Rage.  How many cars were torched?  The French National Pass Time.


Posted by: mossomo at January 30, 2014 07:32 PM (MscWH)

287 Quels cons!

Posted by: bill-o at January 31, 2014 02:27 AM (bjND7)

288 Jew, get the hell out, France is not for you. And any Jew that remains in France should not be surprised upon they day he/she is arrested and sent to a camp because they are a Jew. GET OUT while the getting is good.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at January 31, 2014 03:55 AM (1hM1d)

289 And the ironic part being is that French Jews, like American Jews, are extreme leftists who supported immigration of blacks and Arabs. The other ironic part is that blacks and Arabs even less French than what they claim the Jews are.  Looks like blowback from liberalism.  So sorry, but leftwing Jews made the bed they now lie in.

Posted by: Federale (@Federale86) at January 31, 2014 06:36 AM (JS6HU)

290 Federale makes an excellent point. We see the same thing here in the USA. Am I now supposed to be sorry for the bed that the jews and other leftists have made for themselves?

Posted by: Veritas at February 01, 2014 08:51 PM (w9drt)

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