December 31, 2004
— Ace As long as we're just asking questions-- I want to know.
I want answers.
I mean, since questions about motherhood and child-rearing have become sooo central to this campaign -- aren't we entitled to this information?
As a commenter says -- as long as the left is "camped up inside the uteruses" of Republican politicians (and their daughters, for God's sake) -- let's really open up the floor to questions.
Obama's obviously a fan of abortion. I'd like to know if he puts his personal political preferences into real-life action.
Again -- bear in mind, I've been informed by a former TNR-editor-turned-blogger (nice career trajectory!) writing at the gay gossip site and antisemitic conspiracy newsletter The Atlantic that these questions are quite important.
I've been informed that the mere fact that Governor Palin took her kids with her to witness the most important professional moment of her life makes her kids "fair game" -- and also "opened the door" to any and all questions about the Palins' sex lives and decisions regarding childbearing and child-rearing.
Let's leave the Obama kids out of it.
But we'll leave in Barack and Michelle Obama themselves. They are adults. They showed their kids on TV-- therefore their sexual histories are "fair game."
So: How many "Little Obamas" have been left in the sink? I wish to examine each and every one of Barry and Michelle's choices, just as deragned psychopathic vagina-envy professional homosexual Andrew Sullivan wishes to examine Governor Palin's.
Where are Michelle Obama's gynecological records?
These are important questions, and I will not be bullied into silence. It's my duty to ask them.
Incidentally... Barack Obama is, objectively, much more attractive than Michelle. Objectively, you understand.
Anyone buying that he's been faithful? What's your best guess as to the number of affairs he's had?
Just speculatin' about a likelihood here. I know the National Enquirer has looked into this -- but found no confirmation of anything. But, apparently, they did hear some things.
PS: If you're at an Obama event, somehow, ask the question, and get his response on camera.
Posted by: RitewingFascist at September 17, 2008 05:35 PM (wmQOP)
Are we betting?
Posted by: runninrebel at September 17, 2008 05:36 PM (o/KrO)
Posted by: Gran at September 17, 2008 05:37 PM (mTWN+)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at September 17, 2008 05:37 PM (6L459)
Posted by: Pavel at September 17, 2008 05:38 PM (/jsnH)
Posted by: ECM at September 17, 2008 05:38 PM (q3V+C)
Posted by: Jay at September 17, 2008 05:38 PM (nhyPd)
Posted by: mare at September 17, 2008 05:39 PM (X1fsj)
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2008 05:40 PM (KOkrW)
Posted by: runninrebel at September 17, 2008 05:40 PM (o/KrO)
Posted by: mare at September 17, 2008 05:43 PM (X1fsj)
I thought it was "B", but that doesn't seem to apply here.
Posted by: pbrown at September 17, 2008 05:44 PM (vxGjP)
Hmmm, I'm going to say Obama was a virgin until Michelle seduced him. So zero on his side.
What do we know about Michelle? Was she the Foxy Brown type through college? And in the Ivy League? Would an abortion be considered a rite of passage to a black liberation feminist?
Where there's smoke there's fire.
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 17, 2008 05:45 PM (4ZOxD)
Posted by: alexthechick at September 17, 2008 05:45 PM (yUzb2)
Posted by: 1sttofight at September 17, 2008 05:46 PM (Ghqmh)
Posted by: Benson at September 17, 2008 05:48 PM (qzcNU)
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 17, 2008 05:48 PM (KoJZf)
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 17, 2008 05:50 PM (KoJZf)
So Barack turns around and threatens his kids with the 'I brought you into this world, I can take you out.. don't believe me? I will leave you bound and gagged, dying in a closet and it will be legal."
Posted by: The Other Dave C at September 17, 2008 05:50 PM (9g9g8)
Posted by: Nietzsche at September 17, 2008 05:50 PM (xWk3U)
Posted by: Editor at September 17, 2008 05:52 PM (p4YSL)
I'd bet my house that Obama's time at Columbia is so unreported because he was taking it in the ass.
And there's always Larry Sinclair.
Posted by: runninrebel at September 17, 2008 05:52 PM (o/KrO)
Posted by: RitewingFascist at September 17, 2008 05:52 PM (wmQOP)
Maybe you ought to read the Mencken quote at the top of the page...
Posted by: Gran at September 17, 2008 05:54 PM (mTWN+)
Ahhh, shit, who the fuck are we kidding? Obama actually voted for something that NARAL took a pass on because it rhymed so closely with infanticide.
Speaking of which, are we entirely sure that Obama wasn't moved to vote that way to cover his own ass? You know, post-birth baby-strangling. Questions must be asked!
Posted by: Hit the easy targets hardest at September 17, 2008 05:54 PM (8/0ME)
Posted by: RitewingFascist at September 17, 2008 05:54 PM (wmQOP)
Posted by: walrus at September 17, 2008 05:54 PM (f0krO)
Posted by: Michelle Obama at September 17, 2008 05:55 PM (g/h9/)
Posted by: eman at September 17, 2008 05:55 PM (TE1SV)
Posted by: Pavel at September 17, 2008 05:56 PM (/jsnH)
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 17, 2008 05:57 PM (KoJZf)
He's demonstrating absurdity with absurdity. "Absurdity" being the polite word for it.
Posted by: Z Ryan at September 17, 2008 05:58 PM (PDeVA)
Hell no. That's why Michelle cuts his balls off in public at every opportunity.
Posted by: nightwitch at September 17, 2008 05:59 PM (dfTf5)
Posted by: spear at September 17, 2008 06:01 PM (w4FjH)
Conservatives everywhere should be very concerned.
Posted by: Good Lt at September 17, 2008 06:02 PM (s9+Zr)
Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at September 17, 2008 06:02 PM (Za4hQ)
It's not. Unlike Milkyloads, Ace is doing this to point out just how stupid they are. You don't have to worry about this turning into Kos.
Posted by: Benson at September 17, 2008 06:02 PM (qzcNU)
Let me give you a clue. Ace doesn't give a rats ass how many abortions or if any of the two have been party to one, He's just "airing" the question so that the left, who are camped up inside Palin's uterus and that of her daughters, realize what fraud, lying pieces of shit hypocrites are.
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 17, 2008 06:02 PM (KoJZf)
Posted by: Rocks at September 17, 2008 06:03 PM (7rbe9)
Really, doing it once ironically is totally appropriate. Making it one's raison d'etre is gross stupidity. Yuk it up, blow some steam, give the goose what he gives the gander. Or give the muscular goose something it would find unpleasant if he's into that kind of thing.
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 17, 2008 06:04 PM (4ZOxD)
No way the Clinton machine wouldn't have released that nugget while he was whipping Hillary. Sorry, if there's one person in America who has been faithful, it'd be him. No way Terry Lenzner would've sat on that piece of info.
Posted by: RW at September 17, 2008 06:05 PM (IirzJ)
I'd say he's had no fewer than 4 affairs at any given time. Now it's up to him and his campaign to prove me wrong, by the way. Until they produce evidence that he hasn't had affairs, my accusation should be taken as fact. Right, milkyloads?
Posted by: Benson at September 17, 2008 06:05 PM (qzcNU)
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 17, 2008 06:06 PM (/GQkp)
Posted by: Michelle at September 17, 2008 06:06 PM (A2gKB)
Posted by: Bart at September 17, 2008 06:06 PM (w3NmV)
Posted by: Driver at September 17, 2008 06:07 PM (sfmwg)
Posted by: spear at September 17, 2008 06:07 PM (w4FjH)
Dude, unlike Coulter and milkyloads, Ace is being insincere. He's using ml's tactics to point out how stupid it is.
Posted by: Benson at September 17, 2008 06:08 PM (qzcNU)
Joe Biden talked about the Obama kids having a sleep over with his grandkids .. said that Americans wanted a sleepover kind of country ... well, hell, isn't it just like Ol' Joe Biden to use children as human shields?
Well, here are some questions:
Were celebrities present at the house?
Was Biden drinking while kids were sleeping in his house?
Does he walk around the house naked with children present?
Was Biden's lobbyist son conducting business with his father while the kids were making s'mores?
Was a female adult present at all times while Joe was with the children?
Did they watch television?
If so, what?
I mean, damn, if America is going to be like one of Joe Biden's sleepovers - I think we, as a people, have a right to know just what the hell we're getting into.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 17, 2008 06:08 PM (NnAGL)
Posted by: John Galt at September 17, 2008 06:08 PM (Ylv1H)
It's called satire, geniuses.
Posted by: Dan Collins at September 17, 2008 06:09 PM (SohFK)
(You didn't think he was missing in action at Columbia for no reason, right?)
Barry Obottom: The next president of The United States.
Posted by: slinkybender at September 17, 2008 06:09 PM (mXeof)
Ohhh, that Larry Sinclair, the guy who traded blow jobs for crack with Barry "Not bless America, God Damn America!" Obama.
Important questions need to be asked! To the Beaglemobile!!!
Posted by: Hit the easy targets hardest at September 17, 2008 06:10 PM (8/0ME)
Posted by: runninrebel at September 17, 2008 06:10 PM (o/KrO)
Posted by: Dan Collins at September 17, 2008 06:10 PM (SohFK)
Posted by: Cock Cheney's Dick at September 17, 2008 06:10 PM (tq6GW)
Yes they are, WHAT IS HE HIDING!
to moby the fucktards lament over her email.
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 17, 2008 06:12 PM (KoJZf)
The "mean" spirit that both Michelle and Barack threaten us with was not pushed on them, but taken on with each abortion. It isn't merely the aborted friendships, either, "That's not the so-and-so I thought I knew." Referencing unborn babies as "mistakes" regardless of how many times Barack heard it growing up is simply not acceptable, particularly of a POTUS.
Posted by: I ain't Obama's granny at September 17, 2008 06:12 PM (F1b/5)
I'm just asking.
Posted by: Gran at September 17, 2008 06:13 PM (mTWN+)
Posted by: Editor at September 17, 2008 06:13 PM (p4YSL)
Believe it or not, he said on 60 minutes he does not drink.
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 17, 2008 06:14 PM (KoJZf)
So were Dan and Jeri Ryan's divorce records.
Posted by: OregonMuse at September 17, 2008 06:14 PM (/GQkp)
Ace I'm shocked you started this one you're getting some of these racist inbred farm boys fired up!
Posted by: Uncle Luck at September 17, 2008 06:14 PM (y+BCs)
Are we supposed to just rise above it?
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, but the pig enjoys it.
I know this shit is frustrating. I know it's tempting to "use their own weapons against them." But goddammit, it's going to backfire every time, because people expect that behavior of them and it'll go by without comment. Just as it has been.
But when they see YOU do it, when they point out your behavior and you try to defend your actions with "but THEY started it!"...do you really think that's going to make a bit of difference? Do you think anyone's going to care?
How much of our philosophy, how much of our certainty, how much of our self-respect on the right is predicated on our belief that WE'RE THE ADULTS, and we're above that kind of behavior? If you climb into that fucking gutter right alongside them, who do you think is going to benefit? How's that going to serve the goal of demonstrating which party is more rational and responsible?
Ace, I'd follow you into hell, you magnificent bastard. But I can't follow you into a porta-john.
Posted by: apotheosis at September 17, 2008 06:14 PM (xWk3U)
What you're really saying is that we should bring a knife to a gunfight.
Sorry, dude, it's time to lock and load.
Posted by: Gran at September 17, 2008 06:17 PM (mTWN+)
Posted by: Dan Collins at September 17, 2008 06:17 PM (SohFK)
Posted by: PDizzle at September 17, 2008 06:18 PM (btpzp)
Posted by: Andi at September 17, 2008 06:19 PM (YCVBL)
We go out, we win, and we deny them the power that they so desperately crave.
Posted by: RedFox84 at September 17, 2008 06:19 PM (vs8h/)
looks pretty close to nailing it. Too dad the dems kid is over 18, eh?
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 17, 2008 06:19 PM (KoJZf)
The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant, that few stood against many, and before this battle is over, that even a god-king can bleed.
Lets fight in the shade.
XERXES URKEL DORK
Posted by: Hugh Jass at September 17, 2008 06:21 PM (If0Ti)
Posted by: Whoopi G. at September 17, 2008 06:22 PM (mD4t/)
On the one hand, I can understand the "don't go down this road" mentality. On the other hand... good on you, Ace, time to show the mother fuckers how -one fucking day- of the shit they feed us 24/7/52 feels. And I bet they'll scream and whine like the pussies they are over it, too. Good. Fuck 'em.
Posted by: Qwinn at September 17, 2008 06:22 PM (3FVXC)
Posted by: East Bay patriot at September 17, 2008 06:22 PM (h/5U0)
Posted by: darwin at September 17, 2008 06:23 PM (vxzoK)
If you can't glean the dripping sarcasm in ACE's post as opposed to the gay gossip columnist's ACTUAL desire to crawl up a uterus and demand a Trig DNA test, than I am afraid you don't GET Ace.
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 17, 2008 06:23 PM (KoJZf)
Posted by: SarahW at September 17, 2008 06:23 PM (7sl9X)
Posted by: shibumi at September 17, 2008 06:24 PM (tZB/c)
Posted by: Dan Collins at September 17, 2008 06:25 PM (SohFK)
That's some great info.
Posted by: Benson at September 17, 2008 06:25 PM (qzcNU)
No. Be outraged and angry, because what they are doing is outrageous and contemptible. It shows the bankruptcy of what passes for thought on their side.
Just don't let them define the means of debate. Right now you're letting them do that.
(And, yeah, folks, I do understand the concept of satire. This sort of satire loses any effectiveness because it's cut of the same ugliness as what milkyloads is doing.)
Posted by: Pavel at September 17, 2008 06:25 PM (/jsnH)
Posted by: Nunya at September 17, 2008 06:25 PM (ccuPW)
Some of the gay left made fun of him about pretending to be a one man kinda guy, the rest thought it was hilarious that he didn't want to have random hookups with needle-users. Because, what? They'd look as shitty as he does, that's what.
Dude loves coke and meth, that's all I'm saying. And needles, did I mention needles?
Posted by: Hit the easy targets hardest at September 17, 2008 06:26 PM (8/0ME)
Posted by: mrclark at September 17, 2008 06:27 PM (WF/ME)
Posted by: Hongqi at September 17, 2008 06:28 PM (+WuMm)
Please see my previous comment in the thread titled:
"Wherein I Do My Part to Aid the Social Sciences"
Posted by: Editor at September 17, 2008 06:28 PM (p4YSL)
Posted by: Dan Collins at September 17, 2008 06:28 PM (SohFK)
Hey, don't let me stand in your way, knock yourself out. Go for the quick fix, the emotionally satisfying lash-out. Fuck any question of whether or not it'll be effective, whether or not it'll backfire spectacularly - if, in fact it's even noticed at all. Do what feels good. Hey, it's worked for them, right? That's the model you want to emulate? Be above it by getting down in it?
Funny thing, I haven't noticed Palin throwing temper tantrums about this bullshit. She's got more right than every one of us put together, and a national platform from which to do it. But she's not. She recognizes their idiocy for what it is, and she's maintaining her composure.
That's the leader I'm voting for in November.
Posted by: apotheosis at September 17, 2008 06:29 PM (xWk3U)
I'm mildly pro-life, but I don't really give a crap either way. Though I'd like to see the father get a say in the procedure or not.
Posted by: lorien1973 at September 17, 2008 06:29 PM (fE4SP)
Considering the monolithic and unstoppable leftward surge of the culture and politics of this country over the last 60 years, I'd say, uh, yeah, it has.
Posted by: Qwinn at September 17, 2008 06:30 PM (3FVXC)
Jesus threw a temper tantrum. Pontius Pilate was a leader.
Posted by: runninrebel at September 17, 2008 06:32 PM (o/KrO)
And so it begins.
The balkanization of America, or Amerikkka has truly begun.
When Obama wins the so-called Right, or in this case the Republicans may just adopt the tactics of the the Left over these last 8 years, and, it will be a huge, fucking shit storm.
On the other hand, if McCain wins, there will be great wailing and gnashing on the part of the MSM, the Soros Minions, with cries of racism and worse.
The press will be unrelenting, furious, and scandalous in its daily attacks.
A huge fucking shit storm is on the way.
And you heard it hear first.
Posted by: MeTooThen at September 17, 2008 06:33 PM (O0Kyl)
Hilter. That's who.
Posted by: runninrebel at September 17, 2008 06:34 PM (o/KrO)
Posted by: runninrebel at September 17, 2008 06:34 PM (o/KrO)
Was Biden drinking while kids were sleeping in his house?
Believe it or not, he said on 60 minutes he does not drink.
Unlike their Uncle Teddy, who gets drunker than Tara Reid on spring break and drives home instead of having the human decency to ride the fucking train.
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 17, 2008 06:35 PM (4ZOxD)
Posted by: SarahW at September 17, 2008 06:35 PM (7sl9X)
Luckily for her, Barry overlooks this for political inexpediency and considers it work as a community organizer.
Posted by: BillyBob at September 17, 2008 06:35 PM (v9vTw)
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at September 17, 2008 06:36 PM (4ZOxD)
TSK9, this ain't my first rodeo, I know he wasn't being literal. It's not ace's intention in this post I'm worried about, it's a question of (a.) how it's going to be misinterpreted (deliberately or otherwise) by the assholes on the other side of the fence, and (b.) how many people on OUR side are going to take the suggestion to heart.
Look through the responses. There's a few of them in here already.
I love this place. I'd hate to even have Ace give the appearance of sanctioning that kind of shit, after so much time and effort built on noble pursuits proper to red-blooded Americans...integrity, lechery, and hobo murder.
Posted by: apotheosis at September 17, 2008 06:37 PM (xWk3U)
Posted by: SarahW at September 17, 2008 06:38 PM (7sl9X)
Look at the Left's "long march through the institutions" as mandated by Gramsci. Basically, they had a proportionate number of their people in all the various important institutions. But then, those in hiring positions began hiring and/or promoting people -purely- on the basis of ideology. Screw merit. The rest of us kept on hiring based on merit, which meant sometimes we'd vote for one of our guys, and sometimes one of theirs. They would ONLY vote for fellow travelers, 100% of the time. You know what that tactic gets you? The current state where all the major institutions are 95% leftist. It's completely and totally inevitable.
There is NO way to combat that except to do the same thing back. The ONLY way to fight it is to hire and promote purely on the basis of ideology ourselves, and that can only stem the tide, it can't turn it if they're doing it too. But you guys would say, hey, that's an ugly tactic, we shouldn't lower ourselves to their level. Well, guess what. Do so, and you WILL lose. It's a mathematical certainty.
And when you blanket the media day in and day out with vicious smears against McCain and Palin, and throw softballs and "Are you related to Brad Pitt" at Obambi, a lot of people will recognize it for what it is, but -more- people will buy it because they can't believe there'd be so much filth spread about the Palins if at least -some- of it weren't true.
That's really the only problem with Ace's tactic. To be effective, we'd have to go to saturation levels with it. That's what makes it work for them. And I don't think he or any of us, because we're adult and civilized, can lower ourselves to being grotesque trolls day in and day out for decades the way the Left does.
But fuck it, we can enjoy it for a day. Since we've decided that we're "better than them", and we allow them to clobber us with our own moral standards while only having one standard of their own - "none but the will to power" - we -will- lose in the end. It's a mathematical impossibility.
So let's at least have some balls before the axe comes down on our necks, I say, and slit some of our own throats before we die.
Posted by: Qwinn at September 17, 2008 06:39 PM (3FVXC)
It's much easier for us as rational people to behave irrationally than it is for them as inherently irrational individuals to behave like adults.
We've been fighting this with one hand tied behind our backs. We fire off a few facts (Rezko/Wright/Gaffe-O-Matic Biden/etc), they return with email-hacking/Trig is Bristol's son/Troopergate/etc. Why not fight 'em back on both levels?
Posted by: Gran at September 17, 2008 06:40 PM (mTWN+)
Ace is "airing" a hypothetical to illustrate the "airings" of the left were posting pictures 17 year olds baby "bump" as proof of some downs baby cover up and "airings" etc.
I.E. You don't realize how depraved you are until the "airing" mockingly reversed.
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 17, 2008 06:40 PM (KoJZf)
With brief and apparently insignificant interruptions by Nixon, Ford, Regan, and both Bushes, not to mention an electorate repeatedly shown to be split damn near right down the middle.
Posted by: apotheosis at September 17, 2008 06:41 PM (xWk3U)
Dude. JFK would be considered a right wing extremist nutjob today.
Posted by: Qwinn at September 17, 2008 06:43 PM (3FVXC)
And I find it amusing that you'd call wage-and-price-controls Nixon an example of a rightward surge. The fact that -that- idea got shitcanned temporarily is about the only success I can think of on our side, and that only happened when we "sunk to their level" and showed what a miserable failure it was.
Posted by: Qwinn at September 17, 2008 06:44 PM (3FVXC)
Posted by: Dan Collins at September 17, 2008 06:45 PM (SohFK)
Posted by: Dan Collins at September 17, 2008 06:46 PM (SohFK)
Right back at ya'.
What's the big deal?
Of all the Moronic, idiotic, pointless, puerile, and hopelessly retarded shit that's on this blog, and after having the same tag line, for what, 5 years, suddenly it's an issue.
I like it.
I write for my pleasure, not yours.
Posted by: MeTooThen at September 17, 2008 06:46 PM (O0Kyl)
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 17, 2008 06:46 PM (KoJZf)
Yes, the entire culture and politics have shifted tremendously to the left over the last 50 years. It's amusing that just keeping the labels the same has blinded you to this fact.
Posted by: Qwinn at September 17, 2008 06:46 PM (3FVXC)
Me too, then.
What you said.
Posted by: MeTooThen at September 17, 2008 06:47 PM (O0Kyl)
Imagine what horrible fate awaits my enemies when I would gladly kill (throw under the bus) any of my own men for victory.
Posted by: Hugh Jass at September 17, 2008 06:48 PM (If0Ti)
Both Bushes were to the left of Reagan IMHO.
The entertainment culture in the US has continued to drift leftward regardless of which party was in the White House, which may very well be occupied by a flaming Marxist (and her husband) for the next 4-8 years.
The fact that the electorate is split 50/50 tells me that the left has made significant headway into dumbing them down to the point where the concepts of personal responsibility and self-reliance are regarded as outdated.
Posted by: Gran at September 17, 2008 06:49 PM (mTWN+)
Posted by: Rasputin at September 17, 2008 06:49 PM (tunH+)
Posted by: RitewingFascist
yer gettin closer- but that was a fine example of authentic internet gibberish
Posted by: Jones in CO at September 17, 2008 06:51 PM (KOkrW)
Hey, how about this? You can pretend to be better than this and we'll pretend you're not pussies counting on the rest of us to save your ass. Deal?
Posted by: Hit the easy targets hardest at September 17, 2008 06:52 PM (8/0ME)
And the shittiest thing all?
All the players know they will get away with it.
Posted by: Kestrel♠ at September 17, 2008 06:53 PM (YxcBH)
Weird, I don't recall mentioning a "rightward surge." Lemme check my notes.
Oh yeah, there it is...between "Hey Quinn, let's go dutch at The Atlantic's first annual AIDS drive salami races" and "Wow, this fucking crow tastes just like chicken." Silly me, I was looking in the "shit I actually said" column, my bad.
All I was saying is, for a country you cast as being in some downward spiral (dare I say "leftward surge?") on the path to communism in the last 60 years, we're still electing one hell of a lot of (R)s. That's all.
Posted by: apotheosis at September 17, 2008 06:54 PM (xWk3U)
Posted by: Dan Collins at September 17, 2008 06:55 PM (SohFK)
Shut the crap up hand wringers, this isn't about a true call for the investigation and intrusion of ANYONE, It's about calling attention to the over-wrought intrusion that is disproportionate and INAPPROPRIATE the press and important bloggers have devoted, while they've for 2 years tiptoed and glad handed the actual candidate for the top spot, not second.
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at September 17, 2008 06:55 PM (KoJZf)
Last time I checked, we are still very much in danger of not only losing the WH, but also losing any ability to block legislation in Congress.
So much for "a lot of R's".
Posted by: Gran at September 17, 2008 06:56 PM (mTWN+)
Bratwurst for my men and s'mores for my horses. Jolly fucking good.
Posted by: apotheosis at September 17, 2008 07:00 PM (xWk3U)
I've always thought Bill Clinton's obsession with the abortion issue had A LOT to do with how many (dozens? hundreds?) women he must have impregnated along the way. (I mean, just by the law of averages.... ) And Bill Clinton WAS obsessed with abortion. On his very first day in office, his very first official act as President was to rescind the previous administration's ban on tissue transplants of brain tissue removed from living late-term aborted babies. Within Clinton's first few weeks in office, he also rescinded the Mexico City policy that prohibited U.S. federal funding of abortion promoters overseas, and his very first communication to the FDA was an order to expedite the approval process for RU-486. During Clinton's time in office, he three times vetoed a ban on partial-birth abortions passed by Congress.
Are you seeing all the parallels with Obama? I don't at all believe Obama is promiscuous in the way Bill Clinton was (WHO IS?!?), but involvement in even ONE abortion leaves lifelong scars, and can totally radicalize a person beyond any semblance of reason. Just look at Kate Michelman. Only one abortion, as far as I know, but she's the most fanatic of the fanatics for baby-killing. No, that's not right. Even Kate Michelman was "neutral" on the Born Alive Infant Protection Act--unlike Barack Obama, who spoke out repeatedly and vehemently against it!
Who knows what the hell makes this guy tick? I don't even want to think about it.
Posted by: Kathy from Kansas at September 17, 2008 07:01 PM (g7fBz)
Posted by: Dan Collins at September 17, 2008 07:04 PM (SohFK)
I never said it was mature. In fact I used the word irrational to describe it.
The point I was trying to make (and obviously failed to) was that we have logic, history, facts and a fantastically sick sense of humor on our side. All they have is sick.
I don't have a problem with venting like this occasionally. Where you and I can (maybe?) agree is that we shouldn't make a habit of it, because then we end up being the right-wing Kos.
Posted by: Gran at September 17, 2008 07:09 PM (mTWN+)
And the dude up above? "go to war"? Man, yer bloggin, which is the weakest thing you can do. Why'nt ya join up? Hey, see where, when they examined the FEC records, the military gave to the O-man about $5 to $1 (Obama/McCain)
Posted by: Zak Taylor at September 17, 2008 07:11 PM (sevlt)
Take a look in the mirror, douchebag.
Posted by: Gran at September 17, 2008 07:14 PM (mTWN+)
Posted by: Jaded at September 17, 2008 07:15 PM (yyZu2)
Truce. In hindsight I mighta overreacted a bit...I'm still pissed off over the Palin e-mail shit from earlier today and it got the better of me.
Posted by: apotheosis at September 17, 2008 07:18 PM (xWk3U)
I keep sayin:
Michelle Obama looks a lot like James Brown.
Not the "early" James Brown, but a lot like the "later" James Brown, whose death from pneumonia was commemorated in a retrospective album including remixes of such hits as:"Wheeze, Wheeze, Wheeze" "Say it Loud (I'm Dead and I'm Proud)" I (no longer) Got the Feeling" " I Feeeeel...Dead" "Ex Machine" "Poppa's Got a Brand New Body Bag"
Posted by: fulldroolcup at September 17, 2008 07:20 PM (fH1BE)
Posted by: The Raving Atheist at September 17, 2008 07:31 PM (Qcl9d)
Posted by: Zak Taylor at September 17, 2008 07:36 PM (sevlt)
Posted by: Connie at September 17, 2008 07:45 PM (drPVo)
I don't maintain a blog anymore because I could not maintain consistent posts of quality. And trust me, I tried. But after a while, I was posting really terrible entries. Like your one here. What a lame, poorly thought-out thing you barfed up here.
The Palins had the option of ignoring the rumors and chose to out Bristol. And so everyone talked about it. And all the talk was in reaction to actual events. And we all Trip passed around like a hot potato during Palin's speech. All fodder for legitimate wondering, because we all saw this stuff happening. You may feel one way or another about it, but we can agree that something happened that's the subject of controversy and questions.
But your question about the Obamas is different, since it is not based in any way on anything real. You may as well ask how many people Obama has shot to death and insist that question be asked at his campaign stops.
Legitimate and sensible lines of attack you ignore include -- 1) snob family sends their precious kids to private school and doesn't favor helping every kid to get good education 2) Obama has abandoned his kids for years for the politics thing, leaving Michelle as a practical single parent, and MICHELLE leaves her kids with her MOM while she traipses around campaigning and complaining about America-- so how messed up are those poor kids, anyway 3) Obama's questionable family values with half brother living in a shack while he prattles on about being our brother's keeper. And on and on. And on.
When you ignore all the real problems and focus on made-up ones you weaken ALL the attacks. People start to hear criticisms and assume they are more made up attacks.
Posted by: lex at September 17, 2008 07:55 PM (0VG4I)
For the record, I like the legitimate and sensible lines of attacks listed above but I sympathize that when one is overexposed to extreme toxicity, one's immunity can become weakened. Read something positive like Emmett Fox or some wicked funny satire. Hell, watch America Fuck Yeah! on YouTube or the South Park Movie again, or Tina Fey on SNL once more. This too, shall pass. Peace, brah.
Posted by: Lag O'Morph at September 17, 2008 08:10 PM (gzaD9)
Posted by: Lag O'Morph at September 17, 2008 08:13 PM (gzaD9)
Posted by: Lag O'Morph at September 17, 2008 08:18 PM (gzaD9)
Posted by: jeannee in the bottle at September 17, 2008 09:12 PM (xc7bB)
Posted by: torabora at September 17, 2008 09:22 PM (ii6Lm)
I'd say so much of the leftward shift is attributable to the general growth of technology and what that does for the choices a human in a developed nation has in life. You can see this going all the way back through recorded history. In the 20th Century, the rate of technological improvement accelerated immensely and this sent shockwaves through the culture.
Think about stuff like The Pill. The fact that pretty much everyone above the age of ten in the last fifty years understands that this refers to oral contraceptives says a great deal about its importance. It had huge benefits for woman but also meant a lot of women got STDs who'd otherwise have exercised more restraint. In a world with widespread contraception there is a lot less risk in getting high at a party, for men and women both, so recreational drug use and consequent abuse becomes far more acceptable. Every new freedom is also a temptation.
In the world after The Pill you'd think there would be less demand for abortion but instead there is increased promiscuity among those taking the precaution and challenging the failure rate, and worse, those not taking it but following the social climate just the same.
Humans aren't nearly as smart as we like to believe we are. Our instincts are still those honed by naked guys running around the savannah 50,000 years ago but guiding us in a far more complex world. Evolution isn't remotely close to catching up with where we were 5,000 years ago in terms of functioning in a civilized society without a lifetime of careful training that may still fail.
So the 20th Century has been far too much for our limited brains to handle, letting wretchedly bad ideas like Marxism take hold in a big way in an attempt to make sense of it without thinking too hard. Civilization has always been an uphill battle and only gets steeper as we go.
Posted by: epobirs at September 17, 2008 10:03 PM (eIO0m)
Posted by: Troy Riser at September 17, 2008 10:24 PM (cKvh9)
Posted by: Zak Taylor at September 17, 2008 10:27 PM (sevlt)
If memory serves, the contribution sampling was taken from about 250 service members, which is hardly representative of the military as a whole. Further, no mention was made of their MOS, so for all we know, they interviewed a pack of REMFs who make it their business to be far, far from the battlefield--you know, supply clerks and the like. Just guessing because I haven't seen the breakdown, but I imagine those in combat arms identify more closely with McCain because, well gee, he's actually worn the uniform and served a cause greater than himself--very much unlike your beloved O-man (lol) who, insofar as I know, has only served his own interests.
Posted by: Troy Riser at September 17, 2008 10:51 PM (cKvh9)
Posted by: Troy Riser at September 17, 2008 11:02 PM (cKvh9)
I understand that Ace's post was not a literal exhortation to go irrational. Indeed, Im not always sure where the line is between helpful negativity and counter-productive negativity, so why take chances? However, the beliefs of the enemy must be made clear to the public. They are repugnant, and most of the mob doesnt know what these pukes are all about. If the Obamas really believe abortion is a morally neutral or even good, then why would they hesitate to answer such a question? I think executing murderers is good, and while many will disagree with me Im not ashamed or reluctant to say I advocate their deaths. If the liberals think its OK to terminate pregnancies, why not comment? No big deal, right? Hell, its a great opportunity to energize their base.
Anyway, if getting dirty brings victory, then it's worth it. Losing to these people has serious consequences - we can't take chances.
Posted by: Reactionary at September 18, 2008 02:52 AM (H7yZC)
Abortion is real, Lex, and the abortion industry is a driving force behind the power structure of the Democrats, now known as leftists. A simple question really, one I've wondered about myself. How many abortions has Obama paid for, or caused to be paid for? M'chelle, how many, dearie? Maybe there's a couple, maybe not. That the Obamas now lead the party that pushes abortions over other solutions makes that question-- if not legitimate, then at least thought-provoking.
Posted by: serr8d at September 18, 2008 03:12 AM (GQ8b3)
I know the National Enquirer has looked into this -- but found no confirmation of anything.
Crack investigative reporter Joseph Wilson IV got the byline.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 18, 2008 04:06 AM (+dm+A)
You can call me lefty, everyone else does. Responding to blogs doesn't mean either of us have a pair. I don't know about their MOS, but by location it looked like feets onna ground, grunts & the like gave to my friend, and the officer class gave to McCain. Makes sense. He got in on affirmative action, but his alma mater would favor him. The O-man could have gone to work for some high falutin' law firm, but didn't remember. If the cause greater than himself were dropping bombs on rice farmers, gee, I skipped it, but you know in retrospect? Those VC didn't threaten me much. Have you read Stanley Karnow's book, or Neil Shehan's??
Posted by: Zak Taylor at September 18, 2008 06:31 PM (sevlt)
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