June 30, 2011

I'm Not Saying Democrats Aren't Patriotic . . . But Hahvahd Is
— Gabriel Malor

Via the always interesting Guy Benson, it seems Democrats have a patriotism problem after all. Of course, the Harvard social scientists couch it as Republicans having "appropriated" patriotic holidays, but if the Democrats were better than indifferent on the issue, I doubt that could have happened.

Democratic political candidates can skip this weekend's July 4th parades. A new Harvard University study finds that July 4th parades energize only Republicans, turn kids into Republicans, and help to boost the GOP turnout of adults on Election Day.

[...]

"The political right has been more successful in appropriating American patriotism and its symbols during the 20th century. Survey evidence also confirms that Republicans consider themselves more patriotic than Democrats. According to this interpretation, there is a political congruence between the patriotism promoted on Fourth of July and the values associated with the Republican party. Fourth of July celebrations in Republican dominated counties may thus be more politically biased events that socialize children into Republicans," write Harvard Kennedy School Assistant Professor David Yanagizawa-Drott and Bocconi University Assistant Professor Andreas Madestam.

The key findings of the study are that July Fourth celebrations (1) increase the likelihood of a youth identifying as a Republican by at least 2 percent if attended before age 18, (2) raise the likelihood that attendees will vote for a Republican candidate by 4 percent; and (3) boost the likelihood an attendee will vote by about 1 percent; and (4) increase the chances an attendee will make a political contribution by 3 percent.

Those are slight differences, but every little bit counts.

LATER: Top Ten Ways Democrats Can Re-"Appropriate" July Fourth
(A couple of these blatantly stolen from commenters or Guy.)

10. Include a disclaimer on celebration notices warning that displays of patriotism might endanger children's welfare.

9. Have the EPA require that celebrations use only fireworks that are environmentally friendly and greenhouse gas neutral.

8. Include a ritual apology to Great Britain after all readings of the Declaration of Independence.

7. Have the National Endowment for the Arts fund naked interpretive dance troupes at July Fourth parades. Also, drum circles.

6. Burn slave-owning Founders in effigy.

5. Have the NLRB require that all parade volunteers be unionized.

4. Serve soy chai lattes at July Fourth parades.

3. A free bong hits booth at every parade.

2. Require that children have a permission slip to attend signed by . . . their school principal.

And the Number 1 way that Democrats could re-appropriate the Fourth of July is
1. Actually love their country and talk about it without always saying "I love America, but [issue probably having to do with their relationship with their fathers]."

Effin' 'tards.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 07:23 AM | Comments (279)
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1 this is a crap study and a crappier headline

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 07:26 AM (R7NIt)

2 and a crappy first

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 07:26 AM (R7NIt)

3 Well, gee, no-brainer of the week:  If you're taught your country is awesome, you'll work to promote it and its welfare.  If you're taught it sucks, you'll trash the joint.

I should go into academic studies and get me some of that sweet, sweet money for something I could whip up in an hour with OpenOffice, wearing my PJ's.

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at June 30, 2011 07:27 AM (GBXon)

4
the whole thing is crap

Posted by: sooth3P0 at June 30, 2011 07:27 AM (sqkOB)

5

damn, did i scare everyone away?

i showered...seriously...sniffs armpit...

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 07:28 AM (R7NIt)

6 So...we took these holidays over by simply celebrating them.  Got it.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at June 30, 2011 07:28 AM (fuw6p)

7
the study's conclusion implies what?

that Republicans are simple, tribal creatures?

of course, of course

Posted by: sooth3P0 at June 30, 2011 07:28 AM (sqkOB)

8
in b4 the rest of you Reptile-brained jinogistic dupes!

Posted by: sooth3P0 at June 30, 2011 07:29 AM (sqkOB)

9 Obviously, the next step is to ban 4th of July.

Posted by: Moonbat at June 30, 2011 07:29 AM (zJDIJ)

10
look at me and my lizard brain!

Posted by: sooth3P0 at June 30, 2011 07:29 AM (sqkOB)

11 Well I guess the drive out to Lititz every year is worth it then! We're edifying our little ones!

Also it's freakin' awesome. An amazing fireworks show, great music, great people - and it's somehow historical - like the "longest continuous 4th celebration" or something? I should know but I get confused.

(Wow this box looks a lot cooler in Firefox!)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 30, 2011 07:30 AM (SB0V2)

12 Well, you know we could talk about Fourth of July the same way the left talks about Columbus Day. Framing it about the evil white oppressors and slave owners who sought to impose their will on others.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at June 30, 2011 07:30 AM (MyByM)

13 Democrats Aren't Patriotic,
I second that motion

Posted by: Cherry π at June 30, 2011 07:30 AM (OhYCU)

14 Conclusion:  Loving their country is not a Democrat  Party strong point.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 30, 2011 07:30 AM (pdRb1)

15

9  it'll never happen

its obama's daughters bday so the press will cover her bday, not america's

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 07:30 AM (R7NIt)

16 Dems are dicks

Posted by: Cherry π at June 30, 2011 07:31 AM (OhYCU)

17 Another reason that school funding is used to send your kids to us. The alternative is just too horrifying to think about!

Posted by: Gay Pride Parades at June 30, 2011 07:31 AM (FcR7P)

18 The political right has been more successful in appropriating American patriotism

It's not 'appropriating'. The political left has decided to abandon the very concept of the United States and hitch its wagon to transnational institutions. That's how they get Horseface Kerry banging on about global tests, and Dick Obama unable to articulate an opinion about American exceptionalism. It's all about the UN and the ICC for them. Communists do love 'l'Internationale', after all.

Posted by: Waterhouse at June 30, 2011 07:31 AM (IdoRk)

19 I smell cabbie.

Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2011 07:31 AM (XOK/H)

20 Of course to leftists, "patriotism" is blindly cheering fascists like the TSA. Sparing you the threat of diapered grannies and sparing the feelings of young Nigerians;

Authorities Investigate Security Breach At JFK Airport After Man Flies To Los Angeles Without Ticket Or ID


Posted by: Charles Amazon Store Johnson at June 30, 2011 07:32 AM (so1xa)

21

OK.... alternate study for which I of course need US Gov Funding...

That gong to Cinco de Quatro leads you to being an UnAmerican FTard?

 

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 30, 2011 07:33 AM (NtXW4)

22 Well then, my kids will be absolutely inundated with July 4th festivities. I may just let my 6 year old light his first firecracker! That'll make sure he ends up a conservative for sure.

Posted by: BuckIV at June 30, 2011 07:34 AM (AtjNL)

23

19  nah, not today, i'm working out of the house

i have too much cleaning to do after i get the 3 generations fed and out of here, they are flying to maui for the weekend

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 07:34 AM (R7NIt)

24 The key findings of the study are that July Fourth celebrations (1) increase the likelihood of a youth identifying as a Republican by at least 2 percent if attended before age 18,

If I didn't think most "studies" were crap, and especially ones from Harvard, I would reference this as a good reason for parents to make sure they take their kids to 4th of July celebrations.

My daughter will be coming by Sunday with grandson for hamburgers and hot dogs from the grill. I'll have to make sure we get some fireworks and make it a real "4th of July" celebration. 

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2011 07:34 AM (M9Ie6)

25 How does one become a professor with zero concept of causal relationships?

Posted by: baboy at June 30, 2011 07:34 AM (jekKI)

26 Patriotism to leftists was cheering on the enemy in a war before the FLOTUS became proud of it, but now it's cheering on the TSA and ATF

Posted by: kbdabear at June 30, 2011 07:34 AM (so1xa)

27 The spirit of '76 gave birth to modern libertarian and conservative politics. Liberalism/Progressivism are the western variant of National Socialism.

So of course any appeal to the American political tradition is going to draw people away from liberalism.

The founders didn't fight and die for a King to tell them what kind of health insurance they had to buy.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 30, 2011 07:34 AM (7BU4a)

28 What this study flat out says is that having and/or celebrating American values increases the likelihood that you'll not join the party that denounces them. Not as honest as calling Obama a dick, but it's close.

Posted by: t-bird at June 30, 2011 07:34 AM (FcR7P)

29 I love that Democrats completely rejecting patriotism and love of country somehow results in Republicans "appropriating" same. Quick solution for this, libs. Instead of whining so much that conservatives like to fly the flag, simply stop wiping your own asses with it. It would be a start.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at June 30, 2011 07:35 AM (oEeHt)

30 I should go into academic studies and get me some of that sweet, sweet money for something I could whip up in an hour with OpenOffice, wearing my PJ's.

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at June 30, 2011 12:27 PM (GBXon)

Our next study will be on the effects of alcohol on the sexual expression of college coeds.

I love my job.

Posted by: Some "Scientist" at June 30, 2011 07:36 AM (7BU4a)

31 Dems love their country and worship their flag.

Mother Russia.

Posted by: Cherry π at June 30, 2011 07:37 AM (OhYCU)

32 What kind of crap study finds differences of 1-4% and publishes with those as the headline? That isn't science.

Posted by: JoeInMD at June 30, 2011 07:37 AM (PIahf)

33

this is why the study and headline are crap

you are confusing LIBERAL with DEMOCRAT and CONSERVATIVE with REPUBLICAN

they really aren't interchangable

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 07:37 AM (R7NIt)

34 >> Harvard social scientists

It's science! You can't argue with that.

Posted by: The IPCC at June 30, 2011 07:38 AM (5Rurq)

35 Then I am really screwed! My son will miss the 4th of July stuff for the second year in a row because of Boy Scout camp... guess he'll end up a Dem.

Posted by: Brad at June 30, 2011 07:38 AM (2GsJg)

36 Obviously, the next step is to ban 4th of July.

Oooooh, this is a good thought. Newsletter?

Posted by: Portland City Council Moonbats at June 30, 2011 07:38 AM (pLTLS)

37 7
the study's conclusion implies what?

that Republicans are simple, tribal creatures?

of course, of course

Posted by: sooth3P0 at June 30, 2011 12:28 PM (sqkOB)

And the recommendation since July 4th celebrations create Republicans? BAN July 4th celebrations!

Posted by: Harvard Social Engineer at June 30, 2011 07:39 AM (cv5Iw)

38 Since so many leftards openly admit to seeing our country as some kind of evil colonial empire it's not surprising that there is a stronger presence of conservatives at these events. I mean why would they want to attend a parade that celebrates the founding of something that they often seem to loathe. I also agree that the study is crap. The parades, in and of themselves, are meaningless as far as producing conservatives. Families attend parades. More attendees are conservative. Conservative parents are more likely to have conservative offspring. I wonder if these dolts got a federal grant for his groundbreaking research.

Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at June 30, 2011 07:39 AM (d7fc5)

39

(3) boost the likelihood an attendee will vote by about 1 percent; and (4) increase the chances an attendee will make a political contribution by 3 percent.

Interesting - I would have thought that Fourth of July celebrations increase the chance that an attendee would vote more than the chance of making a political contribution. 

/It is easier to give money than vote? 

Posted by: Gary, of Team America - World Police at June 30, 2011 07:40 AM (9hSKh)

40

35 guess he'll end up a Dem

move him to my district on the leeward side, i need the votes

and if he's under 18...no problem, its good to be a dem sometimes

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 07:40 AM (R7NIt)

41

they are flying to maui for the weekend

 

Party at NCJ's!

Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2011 07:40 AM (XOK/H)

42 "Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe
every day is April 15th."

Posted by: Reagan's Greatests Quotes, Vol. I at June 30, 2011 07:40 AM (pLTLS)

43 The last time the Democrats were America-loving patriots of the loyal opposition was their convention of 1968, with the agitating commie pinkos wannabe revolutionaries locked outside.  In 1972 (and ever since), those commie pinko revolutionaries have been the Democratic party.

The Democrat Party gave these animals a place to call home at the beginning of the 70's.  A pox on their house for ever after.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at June 30, 2011 07:41 AM (HwE/1)

44 Who could think that a group that constantly wants to fundamentally transform America is unpatriotic?  So what if they think that their country is a "downright mean nation" or only feel proud of "their country" when they think they are about to turn it into something totally different? 

The left really gave away their own understanding of their hate of America when their first accusation, after winning Washington, was to accuse everyone else of being unpatriotic.  LOL.  Dems are just like muslims.  They steal other people's ideas and call them their own.  They distort others' writings and then accuse the original authors of having been liars (because the originals don't agree with the leftists'/muslims' plagiarized twisted versions that totally miss the meaning of the original).  And they project their own faults onto everyone else.

Personally, I laughed when the left started calling everyone else "traitors" and started acting as if they loved the American flag ... they had to handcuff themselves to keep from giving in to their natural reaction whenever they see an American Flag ... to burn it.  But, then, the GOP and many consrvative pundits let the leftists, with the Indonesian America-hater at the top, get away with their insanity, instead of pointing out the projection that the America-haters were employing.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 30, 2011 07:41 AM (G/MYk)

45 We could simply remove July 4th from calendars and replace it with "Obama".

Posted by: Julius Augustus at June 30, 2011 07:41 AM (FcR7P)

46

APPROPRIATING patriotism.....perhaps we are better at LOVING our country because we are not self loathing, no-borders, nanny state parasites who sit around wondering what my country can do for me. Truth is, a country can do nothing for you that the people are not willing to do. Dems are not willing to do what it takes to make this country great. Even John F. Kennedy would not recognize the dems of today.

Generations of dems now believe that the U.S. of A.  is against them and the world and it is Ricco Suave cool to transcend God and Country for some socialist utopia of government swaddling. Just sayin'.

Posted by: giftogab at June 30, 2011 07:41 AM (SPVfc)

47

41  Party at NCJ's!

yep!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 07:42 AM (R7NIt)

48 Last January 13th, I was more successful "appropriating" that day as my birthday than anyone born on the other 364 days of the year.

There is something seriously wrong with an individual that could ascribe a contextually pejorative word to what is simply a celebration of our culture.

Posted by: krakatoa at June 30, 2011 07:43 AM (bbJJG)

49
BAN July 4th celebrations!

You don't think they should? People might find the celebration offensive. Why should jingoism be imposed on others? And why should the state get involved with celebrating the founding of a slave nation?

Posted by: alternate universe soothsayer at June 30, 2011 07:43 AM (sqkOB)

50 Well I guess the drive out to Lititz every year is worth it then! We're edifying our little ones!

It IS worth it. Best 4th of July celebration I've been to, and we went to a lot of them during the camping years when the rug rats were younguns.


Posted by: Retread at June 30, 2011 07:43 AM (G+7cD)

51

 navycopjoe?  Tthe lady protests too much methinks? 

I'm kidding, ncj.  I don't like this study either.  If the study is true, I think there is some other underlying factor than *merely* the celebration being one for the Fourth of July that contributes to this observation. 

And 1 and 3 percent?  Is that change signficant for social scientists?  (My life science snobbery is leeching through here).

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 30, 2011 07:43 AM (9hSKh)

52 Harvard professors .. is there anything the DON'T know!!

Posted by: Homer Simpson at June 30, 2011 07:43 AM (so1xa)

53

From the article:  "Republicans attend Fourth of July to a greater extent and also view the holiday as more important compared to Democrats."

So, I'm thinking the causality arrow is a little, how do you say, BACKWARDS.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 30, 2011 07:43 AM (B+qrE)

54 Per http://www.junkscience.org/JSJ_Course/jsjudocourse/14.html , these results between 1.01 and 1.04 are total BS.

"Increases in relative risk from 1.0 - 2.0 should be viewed suspiciously. The esteemed epidemiologist Ernst Wynder even said that relative risks under 3.0 are suspect (15). Given the nature of the epidemiologic method and the quality of data, such small differences could be explained by the quality of the data."

Posted by: JoeInMD at June 30, 2011 07:43 AM (PIahf)

55 May 1 is the new July 4, comrade.

Posted by: Commie Pinko Bastage at June 30, 2011 07:44 AM (Y0GsD)

56
I'm a world citizen.

I think globally, act locally.

Posted by: alternate universe soothsayer at June 30, 2011 07:45 AM (sqkOB)

57

Posted by: JoeInMD at June 30, 2011 12:43 PM (PIahf)

Thanks for the statistic low-down.

I did have Junk Science Judo at one point, but I think I lent it to someone who never returned it.  Oh well, it'll be another Kindle purchase.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 30, 2011 07:45 AM (9hSKh)

58 IN ... Cinco de Mayo

OUT ... The Fourth of July

Posted by: The DNC at June 30, 2011 07:45 AM (so1xa)

59 Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at June 30, 2011 12:27 PM (GBXon)

Yes, but your choice of chicks to bang would consist of hairy arm-pitted scags with greasy hair, stinking of patchouli oil and body odor.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 30, 2011 07:47 AM (LH6ir)

60 Harvard social scientists
It's science! You can't argue with that.

Yeah, they put it right there in the name and everything. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to tell.

Posted by: Heorot at June 30, 2011 07:47 AM (Nq/UF)

61 The Economy: "May day, may day"

Posted by: Cherry π at June 30, 2011 07:47 AM (OhYCU)

62 Haven't Democrats rejected patriotism, at least in traditional forms?  Don't they want 'patriotism' to mean 'blame America?'

Posted by: nickless at June 30, 2011 07:48 AM (MMC8r)

63

51  i agree but this thread is really starting to piss me off

people are making the mistake that the dem party is all liberals and its wrong

for some sad reason we have the hippies and the gimme gimmes but not the majority

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 07:48 AM (R7NIt)

64 Democrats are usually a lot less than indifferent on the issue.  Derisive is more like it.

Posted by: G Joubert at June 30, 2011 07:48 AM (coZJ0)

65

" ... there is a political congruence between the patriotism promoted on Fourth of July and the values associated with the Republican party."

I'm glad he said it. If I were to say it, I'd get yelled at.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 30, 2011 07:49 AM (jAKfY)

66 Coming soon: Democrats attempt to ban July 4th celebrations, and liberal judges declare use of public funds for such events to be unconstitutional.

Posted by: Socratease at June 30, 2011 07:49 AM (vaIln)

67 They hate our country.  As someone said above, we haven't appropriated it, they have abandoned it.

Look at that other story in the sidebar about those fucktards banning the words "God" and "Jesus" at a VA cemetery.  Un-freaking-believable.  And they wonder (yes, they do - there was an article on this over at Daily Kooks last week) why people think Democrats/liberals are anti-religion!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 30, 2011 07:49 AM (f9c2L)

68 One of the most sickening things I remember seeing was photos of Williamsburg, Brooklyn - the capital of ironic leftist faggot hipsters - on the night of Obama's election with the streets full of people holding little American flags. It was like a bad joke

Posted by: Abe Froman at June 30, 2011 07:50 AM (uZJOg)

69

Heck, in my little town more people come home for the 4th of July Parade, and Carnival, and Beer Garden at the Portugee Hall... than any other time of the year.

Its the time everyone has their High School Reunions around here... because people are more likely to be here.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 30, 2011 07:50 AM (NtXW4)

70 I know what you mean, Joe.

But then again, I think it's up to Democratics - normal ones! which I agree there are many salt-of-the-earth types - to stop TOLERATING the hipster/commie group!

It's almost like the normals are *afraid* of the freaks, you know?

I know sometimes they're your kids or your friends . .  but . . this is getting crazy. I don't think Dems hate America! jeez. my Italian extended family - ALL Democrats. They used to make fun of the liberals. But now they say nothing? I think it's fear.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 30, 2011 07:50 AM (SB0V2)

71
Black history month was created for what reason?

As a way for the Left to divide the people and conquer the govt?

Or maybe it was created sew discord among white/black Americans and make them ashamed of their country?

Posted by: soothsayer at June 30, 2011 07:50 AM (sqkOB)

72

people are making the mistake that the dem party is all liberals and its wrong

for some sad reason we have the hippies and the gimme gimmes but not the majority

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 12:48 PM (R7NIt)

Sorry Joe, but anyone who has remained a dem with the Indonesian leading the charge to destroy this nation has to accept that they are part of that team.  

The dem party is what it is, now.  And it is fully aligned against America.  Anyone who disagrees with that should leave the party or suffer the taint of the team they are on.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 30, 2011 07:51 AM (G/MYk)

73
"Increases in relative risk from 1.0 - 2.0 should be viewed suspiciously. The esteemed epidemiologist Ernst Wynder even said that relative risks under 3.0 are suspect (15). Given the nature of the epidemiologic method and the quality of data, such small differences could be explained by the quality of the data."

Posted by: JoeInMD at June 30, 2011 12:43 PM (PIahf)

In other words DO NOT:

1) Measure with micrometer
2) Mark with chalk
3) Cut with Axe

Posted by: Nighthawk at June 30, 2011 07:51 AM (OtQXp)

74

people are making the mistake that the dem party is all liberals and its wrong

 

true.  There's you, and Zel Miller.

Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2011 07:51 AM (XOK/H)

75 58 IN ... Cinco de Mayo

OUT ... The Fourth of July

Posted by: The DNC at June 30, 2011 12:45 PM (so1xa)

No...no... it Cinco de Quatro!

Posted by: President Obamya at June 30, 2011 07:52 AM (NtXW4)

76 The political right has been more successful in appropriating American patriotism

This is pure projection. Since they use every gathering for their political gain they assume we do too. I never thought of the 4th of July in a political sense other than once the beer flows political arguments may start between family members.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 30, 2011 07:52 AM (tf9Ne)

77 Harvard sure does love them some millions in research grant from that fascist Uncle Sam though ...

Posted by: kbdabear at June 30, 2011 07:52 AM (so1xa)

78 Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 12:48 PM (R7NIt)

The Democrat party is represented by exactly those people. Why should we assume that the majority of the party is any different?

Sorry, but if they allow these scum to speak for them without working to change it, that means that they accept the portrayal.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 30, 2011 07:52 AM (LH6ir)

79 Well, unfortunately, the drought here in Central Texas has appropriated our 4th of July fireworks celebrations. Most county and city governments have banned even the sale of fireworks this year. 

But we can still celebrate, just without the bombs bursting in air.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 30, 2011 07:52 AM (5d6vv)

80

>>Harvard Kennedy School Assistant Professor David Yanagizawa-Drott and Bocconi University Assistant Professor Andreas Madestam<<

Hmmm - an assistant professor with a hypenated last name (dead giveaway to a liberal mother), and an assistant professor from some school in ITALY did this study.  Think they made their study results fit their theory?

I bet they felt like they were studying some sort of alien life form when they got around Republican families:

"Oh, look - in their culture, they go to parades!  And they teach their young to think just the way that they do!  Isn't that quaint?  Fascinating creatures - we simply MUST tell our colleagues about this intriguing species when we are at the next faculty gathering...."

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at June 30, 2011 07:52 AM (wtQcz)

81 p.s. And the Obama administration moves to tighten restrictions on the sale, possession, and use of fireworks by requiring a Federal Fireworks License and approval for all events to be issued by a new executive department.

Posted by: Socratease at June 30, 2011 07:52 AM (vaIln)

82 OT:  California decided to tax internet purchases. 

MISTAKE!

If I'm in The People's Republic of Kalifornia, I just bought a P.O. Box in Nevada. 

Only stupid people pay stupid taxes.

Posted by: tangonine at June 30, 2011 07:52 AM (x3YFz)

83 I think globally, act locally rectally.

Posted by: alternate universe soothsayer at June 30, 2011 12:45 PM (sqkOB)

FIFY

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 30, 2011 07:53 AM (LH6ir)

84 It's amazing - they have no issues with taxing the living shit out of everything that moves for the "good of society," but they have a problem with actually taking civic pride in said society.

Fucking lunatics, all of them.

Posted by: grognard at June 30, 2011 07:53 AM (NS2Mo)

85

people are making the mistake that the dem party is all liberals and its wrong

ncj,

I really don't want to start a fight, but you're goign to need to prove to me that the Democratic Party as currently constitututed is not dominated stem to stern by liberals.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 30, 2011 07:54 AM (B+qrE)

86 Dejavu...


Lemme guess..... study funded by taxpayer monies.

Posted by: fixerupper at June 30, 2011 07:54 AM (C8hzL)

87

I think we should fundamentally change our attitude about this holiday and band together and celebrate Arab Spring!

Come on!  Whose with me?

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 30, 2011 07:54 AM (jx2j9)

88 The leftists already tried to appropriate - in the REAL meaning of the word - 9/11 by turning it into some retarded "Volunteer Service Day" or some such shit.

The dems pull so much shit that it's impossible to remember it all.  Thank G-d they project, so we can take their own accusations and find where in the past they did that (and are now accusing others).

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 30, 2011 07:55 AM (G/MYk)

89

And Joe Lieberman.  Oh wait.

Posted by: eleven at June 30, 2011 07:55 AM (7DB+a)

90

Only stupid people pay stupid taxes.

 

Welcome to the party, stupid.

Posted by: Zombie Leona Helmsley at June 30, 2011 07:55 AM (XOK/H)

91

70  i don't think its fear, i think its that they don't want to be bothered with all the bullshit

if a republican wants a dem's vote, he needs to get out there and state his case really well and to the point...extra bonus if the economy sucks

what is a killer is the media is full of liberals and drive the masses

dems for the most part don't vote, huge numbers to be had if the repubs can get an excellent get out the vote drive

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 07:56 AM (R7NIt)

92 From Michael Barone's column at the Washington Examiner: No one in mainstream media seems inclined to mention Barack Obama’s horrifying mistake last Thursday when, speaking at Fort Drum, he said that SFC Jared Monti was “the first person who I was able to award the Medal of Honor to who actually came back and wasn’t receiving it posthumously.” Alas, he was mistaken. He awarded the Medal of Honor to Jared Monti posthumously in 2009 and awarded the Medal of Honor in person to SSG Sal Giunta in person in 2011. ********* But the IMPORTANT error was when Bachmann confused Concord, NH with Concord, Mass. For that, Douche Chris Wallace wondered if she wasn't a, you know, FLAKE.

Posted by: CoolCzech at June 30, 2011 07:56 AM (kUaEF)

93

25 How does one become a professor with zero concept of causal relationships?

You mean like Oblather's casual relationship with the Constitution after being an associate professor and guest lecturer of Constitutional Law for 2 years????

Actually, it's pretty rare....

Posted by: MrObvious at June 30, 2011 07:56 AM (H87Hu)

94 It IS worth it. Best 4th of July celebration I've been to, and we went to a lot of them during the camping years when the rug rats were younguns.

The best one I ever had was at a bar on Union Street in SF in 1976. A bunch of us put on our dress blues and met up with a bunch of Aussie sailors who were in town for the bicentennial celebrations who were also in their dress blues.

We took over the place.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2011 07:57 AM (M9Ie6)

95

dems for the most part don't vote, huge numbers to be had if the repubs can get an excellent get out the vote drive

 

The dead ones never miss a chance to vote...twice.

Posted by: Civil War Veterans for Obama at June 30, 2011 07:57 AM (XOK/H)

96 Bocconi University Assistant Professor Andreas Madestam.

Wait a minute, Bocconi University? I'm pretty sure that's just Sbarro's training academy. They have a huge rivalry with Hamburger U.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at June 30, 2011 07:58 AM (+lsX1)

97 The political right has been more successful in appropriating American patriotism and its symbols during the 20th century. Survey evidence also confirms that Republicans consider themselves more patriotic than Democrats. According to this interpretation, there is a political congruence between the patriotism promoted on Fourth of July and the values associated with the Republican party. Fourth of July celebrations in Republican dominated counties may thus be more politically biased events that socialize children into Republicans,"

Appropriating patriotism??? ...or actually being patriotic and not pretending to be for political expedience??...of fucking course conservatives and Republicans are more patriotic, idiot.

The fucking leftards fucking lament the 4th of July, not celebrate it..

...and you can extrapolate that out to their opinions of the Constitution

Posted by: beedubya at June 30, 2011 07:58 AM (AnTyA)

98 Fourth of July parades is just more propaganda from the Reich Wing. But their time is thankfully coming to an end.

Posted by: Lisa Pelletier at June 30, 2011 07:58 AM (dl5aX)

99 because we are not self loathing, no-borders, nanny state parasites who sit around wondering what my country can do for me.

If you sit around waiting for your country to take care of you you will always be disappointed in your country.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 30, 2011 07:59 AM (pdRb1)

100 No word yet on a study from Harvard on the Democrats' appropriation of tragedies and deaths (Wellstone memorial, Giffords shooting) for political advantage.

Posted by: Socratease at June 30, 2011 07:59 AM (vaIln)

101 84 It's amazing - they have no issues with taxing the living shit out of everything that moves for the "good of society," but they have a problem with actually taking civic pride in said society.

Fucking lunatics, all of them.

Posted by: grognard at June 30, 2011 12:53 PM (NS2Mo)

what's more pathetic, is that the "progressive" liberal commie socialists have been at this since about 1910.  And we have failed to stop them at every turn.  See:  Charles McCarthy.  Yeah the guy was an alcoholic and tended toward fury.... But I love him.

He knew right from wrong, and should any hippie make the mistake of denigrating him within arm's reach.... well... I'll do the time, after ending the aforementioned hippie.

Posted by: tangonine at June 30, 2011 07:59 AM (x3YFz)

102 A facebook quote from a facebook "friend" today - this is how the left thinks.  I'm getting off of facebook.  Independence is so 2000 and late. Interdependence is where it's at...I for one just can't go it alone anymore. We need each other to survive. This is a fact not an option. Interdependence produces the highest form of living. 

Posted by: DPR VIII at June 30, 2011 08:00 AM (FdAuW)

103

78  The Democrat party is represented by exactly those people. Why should we assume that the majority of the party is any different?

and john mccain was almost the head of the republican party

and we know damn well he would be the amnesty king..so is it safe to say that the republican party wants to give the united states to mexico?

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 08:00 AM (R7NIt)

104 What does a guy have to do? I set bombs to kill military personnel, I have a picture standing on the flag the day before September 11th, 2001, I wrote an autobiography for a lazy half breed half -wit, that's not patriotic?

Posted by: Bill Ayers at June 30, 2011 08:01 AM (hbAPu)

105 Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2011 12:57 PM (M9Ie6)

San Francisco used to be a fun town, and actually was a reasonably patriotic place, especially during Fleet Week.

I used to visit a buddy on the Kiska (AE-35) for their BBQs and assorted parties. He would take me and my GF to other ships for their festivities.

Now? I wouldn't want to be uniform on the streets of SF.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 30, 2011 08:01 AM (LH6ir)

106 So if you encourage deems to show up by handing out free whatever , will they become reps?

Posted by: Susan Estrich at June 30, 2011 08:01 AM (Gx3Fe)

107 there should have been quotation marks in there

Posted by: DPR VIII at June 30, 2011 08:01 AM (FdAuW)

108 Harvard.  A real hotbed of conservative thought.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 30, 2011 08:01 AM (jx2j9)

109  The best one I ever had was at a bar on Union Street in SF in 1976. A bunch of us put on our dress blues and met up with a bunch of Aussie sailors who were in town for the bicentennial celebrations who were also in their dress blues.

Actually, my best Fourth of July celebration was when I was working/studying in London. All the Americans took over this bar, we had a bajillion American flags. The bartenders wore 'em in their hair or down their shirts. The Brits would say "Happy Independence Day" and buy us drinks. It was awesome. This was in 2006 and I knew all that shit the Dems were saying about how our European allies hated us was just bullshit.

My second-best Fourth of July celebration was in Costa Rica in 2007. Right after the U.S. won the Copa de Oro against Mexico. The ticos loved that (they don't like Mexicans very much in Costa Rica). I was out in a rural town for that one, but everyone still gathered at the bar and bought me and my buddy drinks. Nothing like being overseas for the holidays.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 30, 2011 08:02 AM (XVaFd)

110

And 1 and 3 percent? Is that change signficant for social scientists?

I haven't looked at the particulars of this study, but in general, yes. It becomes even more meaningful if the study is replicated and yields the same results.

One of my peeves with the media is when they say "A poll puts Smith ahead of Jones 46% to 44%, but the margin of error 3%, so it's a statistical tie." No, it isn't. Rephrasing "46 – 44 < 3" by saying "46 = 44" is just wrong. Because it's social science, people think they can be lose with the numbers. But it's still science.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 30, 2011 08:02 AM (jAKfY)

111 Few 4th of July parades offer free soy lattes, so of course liberals don't want to attend.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 30, 2011 08:02 AM (kl3xJ)

112

"Independence is so 2000 and late. Interdependence is where it's at...I for one just can't go it alone anymore. We need each other to survive. This is a fact not an option. Interdependence produces the highest form of living."

There.  It reads just as stupid with the quotation marks.

Posted by: DPR VIII at June 30, 2011 08:03 AM (FdAuW)

113 "You can't give one segment of retail a 10% discount every day. It's just not fair," Sure it's not the other way around? Of course not. Paying 9.5% sales tax is only fair for all the immigration services that California provides.

Posted by: t-bird at June 30, 2011 08:03 AM (FcR7P)

114

106  no, you make your case and do it strong!

example....the vote on gay marriage in california, obama won easily but that one conservative idea won the day

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 08:04 AM (R7NIt)

115 And 1 and 3 percent? Is that change signficant for social scientists? It's catastrophic for climate 'scientists', so I imagine so.

Posted by: t-bird at June 30, 2011 08:04 AM (FcR7P)

116 This was in 2006 and I knew all that shit the Dems were saying about how our European allies hated us was just bullshit.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 30, 2011 01:02 PM (XVaFd)

Outside of the chattering classes and the over-educated, I think that Europeans (yes, a broad brush) tend to like Americans and America.

I have a bunch of relatives in Paris, and the younger ones seem to be reflexively anti-American until they grow up a bit and think for themselves.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 30, 2011 08:06 AM (LH6ir)

117 that socialize children into Republicans," write Harvard Kennedy School Assistant Professor David Yanagizawa-Drott and Bocconi University Assistant Professor Andreas Madestam.

That sounds really weird.  Shouldn't it be, "socialize children into Republicanism"?  I mean, you can "turn children into Republicans", but one would think that they "socialize" into a context. 

Anyway, this study seems to be talking about nothing more than the feelings people have about themselves and others, not the actual question of patriotism - which in our nation would easily be defined (in a fair manner) as:

"those who wish to remain committed to our founding laws and documents"

There is more to it, but that would be a minimum for patriotism in a Constitutional Republic.  This study has nothing to do with any of this, since it seems to interpret patriotism as nothing but a valueless feeling of "being on the team".  But our "team" is defined by our Founding documents - as our oaths stress for everyone to remember, "to protect and defend the Constitution".

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 30, 2011 08:06 AM (G/MYk)

118 See:  Charles McCarthy.  Yeah the guy was an alcoholic and tended toward fury.... But I love him.

That little bastard said the most horrible things offstage.

Posted by: Edgar Bergen at June 30, 2011 08:07 AM (MMC8r)

119

Sort of on topic:

I've read a couple of reviews for the new Transformers movie, and a big burr in the liberal saddle is Michael Bay's "jingoistic" flag waving and admiration for the US military.

What a bunch of bed wetting fuckfaces. Look, I won't defend Bay as some sort of auteur; his movies are loud and dumb (if also entertaining), but the leftie film review community really hates him because he digs American military strength. For that, they can all eat a bag of dicks.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 30, 2011 08:08 AM (kl3xJ)

120

Is it just me, or does Al Gore have a retard face?  His face looks like he's a retard.  Like, there's a retard-looking element to his face. 

Anybody else see that?  The retard-face?

Posted by: Truman North at June 30, 2011 08:08 AM (K2wpv)

121

This was in 2006 and I knew all that shit the Dems were saying about how our European allies hated us was just bullshit.

i was stationed in italy when the war started and spent 2002-2005 in europe, it was total crap....the europeans actually liked us and supported us

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 08:08 AM (R7NIt)

122

All I have to say is that it is a good goddam thing that things are different now, because had things been the same as they were during Katrina, the federal response to this might be seen as racist.  And Shep Smith would be swearing his ass off on live TV!  And Hollywood celebrities would be going apeshit over blatant racism and shit.

Dodged a bullet there!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 30, 2011 08:09 AM (jx2j9)

123 Now? I wouldn't want to be uniform on the streets of SF.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 30, 2011 01:01 PM (LH6ir)

Good Lord no. Also think about Oakland which also used to be an OK city.

LOL, the SF is knew only smelled of urine at the bum magnet at Haight-Ashbury. Northern CA Morons say that the entire city is that way now.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2011 08:09 AM (M9Ie6)

124 Nah, you're confusing them with Bacon Prep.

Posted by: CoolCzech at June 30, 2011 08:09 AM (kUaEF)

125 Wait a minute, Bocconi University? I'm pretty sure that's just Sbarro's training academy. They have a huge rivalry with Hamburger U. Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at June 30, 2011 12:58 PM (+lsX1) Nah, you're confusing them with Bacon Prep.

Posted by: CoolCzech at June 30, 2011 08:11 AM (kUaEF)

126
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 30, 2011 01:02 PM

Cool!

Posted by: arhooley at June 30, 2011 08:11 AM (Rzm7M)

127 The Brits would say "Happy Independence Day" and buy us drinks. It was awesome. This was in 2006 and I knew all that shit the Dems were saying about how our European allies hated us was just bullshit.

That is kind of ironic isn't it. I never was out of the country though on 4th of July.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2011 08:11 AM (M9Ie6)

128 This reminds me, in my town we host the "World's Oldest Rodeo," whether that's true or not, I'm not sure, but we do. Last year, in the 4th of July parade there was a group of ladies marching holding a sign saying "Democratic Women of Prescott," or something like that. All they were met with were boos. Among them, was a guy yelling "Get out of here! You don't belong here! And I'm from Iowa!"

Posted by: SnowSoul at June 30, 2011 08:12 AM (+7e79)

129 Staying on-topic: "The U.S. has decided to formally resume contact with EgyptÂ’s Muslim Brotherhood group." Politico, Drudge

Posted by: t-bird at June 30, 2011 08:12 AM (FcR7P)

130

Spend decades telling us we should be more like Europe and stop offending the rest of the world, and of course American patriotism becomes a Republican thing.

F'ing Democrats. I hate 'em. Rounding them up for "summer camp" always seems like more and more of an option.

Posted by: SGT Dan at June 30, 2011 08:12 AM (jCQ+I)

131

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2011 01:09 PM (M9Ie6)

Yeah... but you have to remember... its OK to be Navy Gay now!

The boys in San Francisco just LOVE us in uniform now! its so Kinky!

Posted by: Sailor, the NEW Navy at June 30, 2011 08:12 AM (NtXW4)

132
Is it just me, or does Al Gore have a retard face?

His face is just gross. How any woman could stand to have that thing hanging over her while he's releasing his second chakra is . . . shudder . . . beyond me.

Posted by: arhooley at June 30, 2011 08:13 AM (Rzm7M)

133

by the way, all this democrats are smelly hippy/commie talk is going to make my money bomb effort harder you know

that is if i can figure out all the damn changes they made to the election laws and if i can decide on statehouse or senate

it would be easier to run for senate but i like her and she's good but the house would be harder and the guy is a uberlib

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 08:13 AM (R7NIt)

134

 

Maybe if we start calling it Dependence Day it would be more appealing to democrats

Posted by: kj at June 30, 2011 08:14 AM (Q1Okj)

135 For that, they can all eat a bag of dicks.

Way ahead of you, partner!!!!

Posted by: a sullivan at June 30, 2011 08:14 AM (AO2A0)

136 ....the europeans actually liked us and supported us

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 01:08 PM (R7NIt)

I was in Scotland back in the mid-1980's when all the Europeans were supposed to hate us because that "crazy cowboy Reagan" was going to "get them all killed in a nuclear war". 

Total bullshit.  I couldn't leave the bar without somebody wanting to buy me a drink.  And when a Scotsman wants to BUY you a drink...

Posted by: Nighthawk at June 30, 2011 08:15 AM (OtQXp)

137

and john mccain was almost the head of the republican party

and we know damn well he would be the amnesty king..so is it safe to say that the republican party wants to give the united states to mexico?

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 01:00 PM (R7NIt)

Er ... The GOP died over that.  Didn't you see what happened in 2006 and 2008?  How many people here HATE the GOP, which yet accomplish its suicide, given how they have screwed up the budget/debt MUST-DO bills (where ObamaCare should have been/be killed)?

And McShame never would have gotten his amnesty through, had he won.  But if he did, this nation would have been torn apart.  No doubt.  I would consider an amnesty, and definitely any 'path to citizenship' offered, treason, myself.

The 2010 revival was due to the Tea Party and your Indonesian, who is the only America-hater to ever occupy the White House.  What he has done - the damage he has done since taking office ... is unbelievable.  But, everyone should have known.  The guy friggin held his biggest campaign rally of 2008 in a foreign nation ... for friggin foreigners!!  WTF?  How can you remain connected to that (and that was the most repulsive, anti-American, insane political act I have ever seen) and that party?

P.S.  The only reason most people supported McShame was because the Indonesian was so much more dangerous and destructive, not to mention the fact that he had no American sensibilities about him, at all.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 30, 2011 08:15 AM (G/MYk)

138 Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2011 01:09 PM (M9Ie6)

I was eating dinner with friends on Market street in October, 2001, the night that we started to bomb Afghanistan. There was a loud anti-American protest on the street and my buddy and I were sorely tempted to go outside and fight.

That, and the drive up the coast the next day when we noticed the conspicuous absence of American flags convinced me that CA was no longer part of America. I was very happy that I had moved to NJ a few months before.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 30, 2011 08:15 AM (LH6ir)

139 The dem party is what it is, now. And it is fully aligned against America. Anyone who disagrees with that should leave the party or suffer the taint of the team they are on. Democrat taint.

Posted by: Eeeeeeeewwwwwww! at June 30, 2011 08:16 AM (4Kl5M)

140

131  goddamn the village people!!!

why do the gays always have to wear the damn sailor outfits?!!!

and no kratos, no 'in the navy' links

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 08:16 AM (R7NIt)

141

137  whoa there cowboy, jef isn't mine, i don't claim him

and for the record, i voted for the chick with the hot legs

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 08:18 AM (R7NIt)

142

I say that until we get our country back, we call it:

End Dependence Day

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 30, 2011 08:18 AM (jx2j9)

143

why do the gays always have to wear the damn sailor outfits?!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 01:16 PM (R7NIt)





Wait, isn't the Navy motto "Once underway, gay is ok"?


Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 30, 2011 08:19 AM (5d6vv)

144

and no kratos, no 'in the navy' links

Awww, not even this one?

/Click - there's no treachery here, honest. 

 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 30, 2011 08:19 AM (9hSKh)

145 140

131  goddamn the village people!!!

why do the gays always have to wear the damn sailor outfits?!!!

 

Well, the uniform is cute. Just ask any Marine.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at June 30, 2011 08:19 AM (0M3AQ)

146 Let me be clear, I think America is exceptional the same way a Kenyan thinks Kenya is exceptional, which I think too, or an Indonesian thinks Indonesia is exceptional, which I think is true also. And the fourth of July is an exceptional day, just like any other day of the year, except it is the birthday of one of the children I was punished with, a punishment caused by corporate jet owners.

Posted by: Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers at June 30, 2011 08:20 AM (hbAPu)

147
Ennyway, I'm liking the Huma Weiner "time off" story. On general principles I'm not glad to see a marriage end, especially when the woman is pregnant (YEESH), but I really think some marriages are better ended. She needs to ditch that scumbag and start building a better life for herself and her kid.

Posted by: arhooley at June 30, 2011 08:20 AM (Rzm7M)

148 Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 01:16 PM (R7NIt)

kratos asked me to post this for him.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 30, 2011 08:20 AM (LH6ir)

149 Speaking of education....

A teacher, a certified hypnotherapist, hypnotizes his students to help them concentrate on their studies. Two have since committed suicide and one died in a car crash.

Guess the state.

Posted by: Clueless at June 30, 2011 08:20 AM (piMMO)

150 My favorite Village People person was the astronaut.

Posted by: Truman North at June 30, 2011 08:21 AM (K2wpv)

151
why do the gays always have to wear the damn sailor outfits?!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 01:16 PM (R7NIt) 

What, those Little Lord Fauntlery outfits? They were gay before they were gay.

Posted by: arhooley at June 30, 2011 08:21 AM (Rzm7M)

152 Vic,

Yeah, the whole city genuinely smells like a toilet now.

Here's a true story:  Years ago I used to work for a hospital in San Francisco.  But not at the hospital; I only worked in the Administrative offices which were near the Civic Center/Van Ness/Market area.  I had to walk about four blocks from BART to work.

Now, even though I wasn't actually treating patients or working in clinical areas, I still had to have a TB skin test every year (policy).  Around the third year, I started popping positive on these tests.  Just walking those four blocks while dodging the homeless and their fecal remnants on the sidewalks was enough exposure that I now test positive for TB exposure (and will for the rest of my life).

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at June 30, 2011 08:22 AM (HwE/1)

153

people are making the mistake that the dem party is all liberals and its wrong

for some sad reason we have the hippies and the gimme gimmes but not the majority

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 12:48 PM (R7NIt)

Unfortunately, the Libs, Lefties and "Progressives" have hijacked the Democrat Party.

My Dad was a union local president and heavily involved in the Alameda County (CA) labor political committee.  They organized the annual Labor Day Picnic fundraiser for their "political education" committee, and it was a draw for national Democrats, even in Presidential election years.

Though my Dad was a Korean War Navy vet and a patriot, he acquiesced in the infiltration of the Democrat Party by the hard Lefties.

It's like how the European cuckoo breeds: it goes into the nest of another species of songbird, kicks out one of the other bird's eggs and lays an egg of its own in the nest.  When the other bird comes back, she sees that the same number of eggs she left in the nest is still there, so she sits on them.  When the cuckoo egg hatches, the cuckoo chick pushes the other eggs and chicks out of the nest one at a time, and since the cuckoo is larger than the other chicks, its wider mouth prompts the parent birds to feed it more than the other chicks.

Eventually the parent birds end up raising just the cuckoo chick, using all their energy to keep this interloper fat and happy.  That's what's happened to the Democrat Party and the various "movements" that have wormed their way into it.

Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2011 08:22 AM (1beh4)

154

 Obviously, the next step is to ban 4th of July.

Of course we should ban the 4th of July.  That was all about war making to separate us from our fellow human beings.  Talk about building walls and not bridges!  Cold pricklies!  We should replace it with a warm and fuzzy UN day so we can celebrate our coming together as one.

Posted by: Wienie Liberal McKnowitall at June 30, 2011 08:22 AM (jUZRg)

155 Ennyway, I'm liking the Huma Weiner "time off" story. On general principles I'm not glad to see a marriage end, especially when the woman is pregnant (YEESH), but I really think some marriages are better ended. She needs to ditch that scumbag and start building a better life for herself and her kid.


Well, since she's a practicing Muslim, the marriage was most likely a sham anyway, and; I don't see a better life for a half-Jewish Muslim kid.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 30, 2011 08:23 AM (5d6vv)

156

 

why do the gays always have to wear the damn sailor outfits?!!!

 

a love of seamen?

Posted by: kj at June 30, 2011 08:23 AM (Q1Okj)

157 Post updated.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 30, 2011 08:23 AM (XVaFd)

158

We were at the O-Club pool yesterday when the speakers sounded the bugle call for "Retreat" (the lowering of the flag). For those of you who haven't experienced it, everyone stops, faces where the flag is being lowered with hand over heart, while the retreat sounds and the flag is lowered.

Yesterday, my 7 year old kept dropping a basketball (he was far from my reach) while retreat was being sounded. The second it was over I stormed over to where he was throughout a chorus of "ooooh" "uh-ohs" and "look-outs" to give him a good shake and a lecture on flag etiquette.

I'm sure, at some point, I either got the lecture of saw one. To this day anything flag related or the national anthem brings tears to my eyes. Alas, for the great majority of americans, it does not.

Posted by: dagny at June 30, 2011 08:23 AM (lI74M)

159

no, i'm not clicking your damn links, i hate you all

anywho, i have to get the wimmens to the airport, be back

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 08:24 AM (R7NIt)

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 30, 2011 08:24 AM (jx2j9)

161 147
Ennyway, I'm liking the Huma Weiner "time off" story. On general principles I'm not glad to see a marriage end, especially when the woman is pregnant (YEESH), but I really think some marriages are better ended. She needs to ditch that scumbag and start building a better life for herself and her kid.

Posted by: arhooley at June 30, 2011 01:20 PM (Rzm7M)


This just accelerated the result.  That marriage wouldn't have lasted anyway.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 30, 2011 08:24 AM (pdRb1)

162 So the big result of this study will not be an effort by the Left to "take back" or "reengaging in" the Fourth and Patriotism." it lead to a (greater) effort to brand such displays as stupid, odious, or both....

Posted by: Douglas Winship at June 30, 2011 08:25 AM (7223j)

163

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 01:24 PM (R7NIt)

No hurry.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 30, 2011 08:25 AM (jx2j9)

164 My study is going to be the effects of exposure to beer tv and video games. Eight hours a day for six months should do it. Hypothesis: An addtional six months will be added for further study.

Posted by: PugBoo at June 30, 2011 08:25 AM (20jXV)

165 154 Obviously, the next step is to ban 4th of July. Of course not. But Americans shouldn't act like the 4th of July is all about THEM, that's all.

Posted by: Liberal Douchebag at June 30, 2011 08:25 AM (kUaEF)

166

7. Have the National Endowment for the Arts fund naked interpretive dance troupes at July Fourth parades. Also, drum circles.

That might be an interesting proposition, depending on who comprises these dance troupes. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 30, 2011 08:26 AM (9hSKh)

167 john mccain was almost the head of the republican party

and we know damn well he would be the amnesty king

I am the amensty king!  Hell, I don't think we should even let someone be president who isn't an illegal alien.

Posted by: Dick "Dick" Dubin at June 30, 2011 08:26 AM (jUZRg)

168 Ennyway, I'm liking the Huma Weiner "time off" story. On general principles I'm not glad to see a marriage end, especially when the woman is pregnant (YEESH), but I really think some marriages are better ended. She needs to ditch that scumbag and start building a better life for herself and her kid.

In as much as I'm in the camp that says hers was a sudden "sympathy" pregnancy, I predict a big "OMG!" announcement in the near future.

The stress of it all! The mean old bloggers did this to me!

It will all be blamed on Ace and Breitbart.

If she is, indeed, pregnant, then I agree with you. Just count me suspicious.

Posted by: Clueless at June 30, 2011 08:27 AM (piMMO)

169 2. Require that children have a permission slip to attend signed by . . . their school principal.

LOL.  ... perhaps too close, even.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 30, 2011 08:27 AM (G/MYk)

170

That might be an interesting proposition, depending on who comprises these dance troupes. 

Roseann Barr, Joy Behar, and Helen Thomas?

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 30, 2011 08:27 AM (jUZRg)

171

10. Include a disclaimer on celebration notices warning that displays of patriotism might endanger children's welfare.

9. Have the EPA require that celebrations use only fireworks that are environmentally friendly and greenhouse gas neutral.

8. Include a ritual apology to Great Britain after all readings of the Declaration of Independence.

7. Have the National Endowment for the Arts fund naked interpretive dance troupes at July Fourth parades. Also, drum circles.

6. Burn slave-owning Founders in effigy.

5. Have the NLRB require that all parade volunteers be unionized.

4. Serve soy chai lattes at July Fourth parades.

3. A free bong hits booth at every parade.

2. Require that children have a permission slip to attend signed by . . . their school principal.

And the Number 1 way that Democrats could re-appropriate the Fourth of July is

1. Actually love their country and talk about it without always saying "I love America, but [issue probably having to do with their relationship to their fathers]."


I figured giant puppets would have made the list somewhere.  I guess I just don't understand liberals.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 30, 2011 08:27 AM (pdRb1)

172

See:  Charles McCarthy.  Yeah the guy was an alcoholic and tended toward fury.... But I love him.

Posted by: tangonine at June 30, 2011 12:59 PM (x3YFz)

Charles McCarthy was made of wood, hung out with Mortimer Snerd, and sat on Edgar Bergen's lap with his "sister," Candice Bergen.

You're probably thinking of "Tail-Gunner Joe" McCarthy.

Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2011 08:27 AM (1beh4)

173

/Click - there's no treachery here, honest. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 30, 2011 01:19 PM (9hSKh)

I love you man!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 30, 2011 08:27 AM (jx2j9)

174

Nothing's hotter than a decent lookin guy in officer whites. Nothing ruins the army look more than the beret. Just my finely honed female appreciation opinion.

Posted by: dagny at June 30, 2011 08:28 AM (lI74M)

Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 30, 2011 08:29 AM (pLTLS)

176 That, and the drive up the coast the next day when we noticed the conspicuous absence of American flags convinced me that CA was no longer part of America.

That is truly sad. There were a lot of liberals there when I lived there but the flags came out when appropriate and they didn't hate America.

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2011 08:30 AM (M9Ie6)

177 Nothing ruins the army look more than the beret.



That just means it's the first thing you take off of him. 

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 30, 2011 08:30 AM (5d6vv)

178
and he wore a unicle

don't forget the unicle

Posted by: soothsayer at June 30, 2011 08:30 AM (sqkOB)

179

I've read a couple of reviews for the new Transformers movie, and a big burr in the liberal saddle is Michael Bay's "jingoistic" flag waving and admiration for the US military.

What a bunch of bed wetting fuckfaces. Look, I won't defend Bay as some sort of auteur; his movies are loud and dumb (if also entertaining), but the leftie film review community really hates him because he digs American military strength. For that, they can all eat a bag of dicks.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 30, 2011 01:08 PM (kl3xJ)

Michael Bay understands that movies like Rendition and The Valley of Elah make zero money at the box office because Americans don't like to see their military run down by rich Hollywood liberals.

Michael Bay needs his movies to gross in the hundreds of millions to be profitable, so he needs to give audiences themes that are popular, not ones that are politically correct.

Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2011 08:31 AM (1beh4)

180 That might be an interesting proposition, depending on who comprises these dance troupes.

Code Pink for teh diversitah. We're talkin' about the NEA here.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 30, 2011 08:31 AM (XVaFd)

181 Ennyway, I'm liking the Huma Weiner "time off" story. On general principles I'm not glad to see a marriage end, especially when the woman is pregnant (YEESH),

(a) Yeah...time off...she's already dumped him.
(b) Do you really think she's pregnant?  Maybe I'm cynical, but they announced that she was 10 weeks pregnant. There was no reason to do that except to gin up sympathy.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 30, 2011 08:31 AM (T0NGe)

182

9. Have the EPA require that celebrations use only fireworks that are environmentally friendly and greenhouse gas neutral.

Actualy, there is a Traditional Fireworks display in Southern Calif, which is cancelled this year, because they were sued for NOT doing an environmental impact report for the show... and did not have time or money to complete it.

And no, I'm not making this up...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 30, 2011 08:31 AM (NtXW4)

183 I started popping positive on these tests.  Just walking those four blocks while dodging the homeless and their fecal remnants on the sidewalks was enough exposure that I now test positive for TB exposure (and will for the rest of my life).

Why does exposure to fecal matter show up positive on a TB test?

Posted by: Vic at June 30, 2011 08:32 AM (M9Ie6)

184

 I know! We can celebrate that pile of ashes that used to be Europe!

And speaking of piles of ashes, a great line from Michael Walsh:

"Listen carefully to those screams of outrage and sounds of shattering glass you hear wafting from the streets of Athens as rioters 'protest' the end of an internationally funded gravy train: This is what happens when an irresponsible government and a lazy, entitled public finally run out of other peopleÂ’s money."

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 30, 2011 08:32 AM (jUZRg)

185

/looks at the Crackerjacks Hanging in his closet...

Ah yes... was ALWAYS my favorite Liberty Uniform...

13 chances to say no... and EVERYONE worldwide knew you were an American Sailor

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 30, 2011 08:33 AM (NtXW4)

186 and he wore a unicle

don't forget the unicle

Posted by: soothsayer at June 30, 2011 01:30 PM (sqkOB)

Yes - monocle, top hat and tails.

The weird thing is that he was a star on a top radio show.  Imagine that: a ventriloquist act was a hit on radio.  Hell, I could do a ventriloquist act on radio.  (Of course, Bergen and McCarthy also appeared on stage and in films.)

Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2011 08:34 AM (1beh4)

187
I nominate Alex de Tocqueville for honorary AoS Morontm


Posted by: soothsayer at June 30, 2011 08:34 AM (sqkOB)

188

That just means it's the first thing you take off of him. 

Sigh. Ok, but it slows my fantasies down.

Posted by: dagny at June 30, 2011 08:34 AM (lI74M)

189

Yes - monocle, top hat and tails.


um, no, that's me


Posted by: Mr Peanut at June 30, 2011 08:35 AM (sqkOB)

190  I don't see a better life for a half-Jewish Muslim kid.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 30, 2011 01:23 PM (5d6vv)

There is a problem there in that half of him will always be trying to kill the other half.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 30, 2011 08:35 AM (yQWNf)

191
you know what doesn't work on radio?

mimes

Posted by: Mr Peanut at June 30, 2011 08:35 AM (sqkOB)

192 Nothing ruins the army look more than the beret.

Well the army is dumping the Beret for a Stetson so problem solved.



Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 30, 2011 08:36 AM (tf9Ne)

193 187
I nominate Alex de Tocqueville for honorary AoS Morontm


Posted by: soothsayer at June 30, 2011 01:34 PM (sqkOB)

And the Marquis De Sade... for his contributions to Womens Fashions, as the creator of the Stiletto Heal...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 30, 2011 08:36 AM (NtXW4)

194

Huma may just want to hitch her wagon to someone with a future.

Posted by: dagny at June 30, 2011 08:36 AM (lI74M)

195 OT bombshell - Rubio: "Obama is a left wing strongman"

Posted by: Cherry π at June 30, 2011 08:36 AM (OhYCU)

196
"unicle" is an old joke, btw

and I'm pretty sure that I'm the only one lauging

Posted by: soothie at June 30, 2011 08:37 AM (sqkOB)

197 Comrades, worker opposition to the kulak ethno-national tribe festivals is the purest form of patriotism.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at June 30, 2011 08:37 AM (epBek)

198

Michael Bay needs his movies to gross in the hundreds of millions to be profitable, so he needs to give audiences themes that are popular, not ones that are politically correct.

That's undoubtedly true, but I also think he personally has a reverence and admiration for the armed forces. Every one of his movies show soldiers in a heroic light, and I don't think that's just to bring in ticket dollars; space robots would do that on their own.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 30, 2011 08:37 AM (kl3xJ)

199 TB is bacterial, and although it is most commonly spread through saliva, it is present and can be cultured from most bodily fluids.  I'm sure is was one of these panhandlers getting in my face that actually did it, but the sidewalk turds were a daily part of my walk and illustrative of what SF has become.

And no, these weren't dog turds.  Not even big dog turds.  I had an Irish Wolfhound  that couldn't poop this big if he held it for a week.

Posted by: Rod Rescueman at June 30, 2011 08:37 AM (HwE/1)

200


Well the army is dumping the Beret for a Stetson so problem solved.

Good. They can leave that on.

Posted by: dagny at June 30, 2011 08:37 AM (lI74M)

201 Rubio: "When does the magic of this president start to happen?"

Posted by: Cherry π at June 30, 2011 08:37 AM (OhYCU)

202
9. Have the EPA require that celebrations use only fireworks that are environmentally friendly and greenhouse gas neutral.

The Onion, or reality?

http://tinyurl.com/44u9nut

Posted by: arhooley at June 30, 2011 08:38 AM (Rzm7M)

203

Hmmm.... that would be an interesting thread...

Which Historical Figures, would have fit in here as Morons...

Einstein? YES!

Wilson? no...

Ben Franklin? Absolutly!

John Adams? would only have lasted about 5 minutes... IMO

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 30, 2011 08:38 AM (NtXW4)

204 If it walks like a dummy, and talks like a dummy, and votes like a dummy, It's President Charley McCarthy and his handler George "Farfel" Soros.

Posted by: Nickie Goomba at June 30, 2011 08:38 AM (jeLTI)

205
Well, since she's a practicing Muslim, the marriage was most likely a sham anyway, and; I don't see a better life for a half-Jewish Muslim kid.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 30, 2011 01:23 PM (5d6vv)

Is she?  Or is she one of those pork-eating, wine-drinking Muslims who just says they're Muslim because they like their head to be in the proximity of their shoulders?

I used to know a lot of those in academia before 9/11.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 30, 2011 08:38 AM (T0NGe)

206 No white man in America has ever been called unpatriotic. 

Posted by: Rev. Wright at June 30, 2011 08:39 AM (/Mla1)

207 166

7. Have the National Endowment for the Arts fund naked interpretive dance troupes at July Fourth parades. Also, drum circles.

That might be an interesting proposition, depending on who comprises these dance troupes. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 30, 2011 01:26 PM (9hSKh)


Remember those chicks in Seattle protesting rape and harassment (apparently on behalf of hot chicks who might be raped/harassed some day)?.....They will be there.  You know who also will be there?  Skinny, hairy liberal white men with no tan in their 40's and 50's.  I don't think those little fanny packs they wear will cover up enough.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 30, 2011 08:39 AM (pdRb1)

208

Ah, my neighborhood is having its very own parade on the 4th and is full of campaign signs for a guy who calls himself a conservative Republican.

Posted by: Mama AJ, bragging about it at June 30, 2011 08:39 AM (XdlcF)

209 No to Jefferson. Yes to Washington. Definately to Sam Adams.

Posted by: dagny at June 30, 2011 08:39 AM (lI74M)

210 195 OT bombshell - Rubio: "Obama is a left wing strongman"

Posted by: Cherry π at June 30, 2011 01:36 PM (OhYCU)

Given Rubio's background, you know who he's inviting comparisons to, right?

Posted by: AmishDude at June 30, 2011 08:40 AM (T0NGe)

211 You guys talking about Michael Bay need to go read this. Right now. Nails it. (Full disclosure: I am a complete Bay fanboi, especially Armageddon and the Transformer films.)

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 30, 2011 08:40 AM (XVaFd)

212
OT bombshell - Rubio: "Obama is a left wing strongman"
Posted by: Cherry π at June 30, 2011 01:36 PM

Where, where, where? Where's this happening?

Rubio/Whoever 20-whenever!

Posted by: arhooley at June 30, 2011 08:40 AM (Rzm7M)

213

Posted by: dagny at June 30, 2011 01:37 PM (lI74M)

Yeah, but now... just like they pissed off the Spec War guys by diluting what the Beret meant..

They are now doing the same for the Cav.. and the Stetson.

They really don't understand about Unit Cohesion, Pride, and Moral anymore...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 30, 2011 08:40 AM (NtXW4)

214 You know what the most effective thing to "socialize children in Republicans" is? - a Democrat.

Posted by: Roy at June 30, 2011 08:40 AM (VndSC)

215
oh speaking of mimes, which I hate, btw, did you hear about this?

the MBTA (MA's public transit) now has "quiet cars" on their commuter rails

the train cars are cell-phone free and 'library' quiet

They hired MIMES to launch the program. I shit you not.


Posted by: soothie at June 30, 2011 08:41 AM (sqkOB)

216 The lefties have their days: 1. Earth Day 2. Festivus 3. Cinco de Mayo 4. Guy Fawkes Day 5. Sadie Hawkins Day

Posted by: MJ at June 30, 2011 08:41 AM (BKOsZ)

217 there is a Traditional Fireworks display in Southern Calif, Best recent July 4th display I've seen is down on the beaches at Santa Cruz. People truck in their supplies, set up their little camps, and it just goes off! after dark. Many of the displays rival municipalities in firepower and complexity. I watch from the cliffs. I wouldn't dare go down to the beach. It looks like D-Day.

Posted by: t-bird at June 30, 2011 08:42 AM (FcR7P)

218

#203

Which Historical Figures, would have fit in here as Morons...?


H.L. Mencken.

Posted by: Nickie Goomba at June 30, 2011 08:42 AM (jeLTI)

219
why would a peanut need a monocle?

Posted by: soothie at June 30, 2011 08:42 AM (sqkOB)

220 I bet the IDF chicks dig 4th celebrations ... just cuz they are kewl !!!

Posted by: Honey Badger at June 30, 2011 08:43 AM (GvYeG)

221 3. Cinco de Mayo

If Mexico ever stops being a dysfunctional basket case corrupt narco-state, May 5 could be as right-wing as July 4.  I mean, beating the French!

Posted by: AmishDude at June 30, 2011 08:43 AM (T0NGe)

222 Which Historical Figures, would have fit in here as Morons... Einstein? YES! Wilson? no... Ben Franklin? Absolutly! John Adams? would only have lasted about 5 minutes... IMO Paul Revere was a punk.

Posted by: William Dawes at June 30, 2011 08:43 AM (4Kl5M)

223
Mr Peanut would make a good Moron.


Posted by: soothie at June 30, 2011 08:43 AM (sqkOB)

224   (Full disclosure: I am a complete Bay fanboi, especially Armageddon and the Transformer films.)

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 30, 2011 01:40 PM (XVaFd)

 

Don't be Gabe.

Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2011 08:43 AM (XOK/H)

225

2. Festivus

Given how non PC and non passive-aggressive the "airing of the grievances" is, and the survival of the fittest attitude of the "feats of strength", I'd actually call Festivus a libertarian holiday.

Posted by: yinzer at June 30, 2011 08:43 AM (/Mla1)

226
Winston Churchill.

And probably J Edgar Hoover, too.

Posted by: soothie at June 30, 2011 08:44 AM (sqkOB)

227 Patriotism isn't blindly cheering for your country no matter what.

Patriotism isn't waving some stupid, made-in-China red, white and blue flag you bought at Walmart.

Patriotism is admitting all the mistakes that have been made in your past and trying to fix them.

Patriotism is caring about and helping less fortunate Americans.

Posted by: Booger eating lefty at June 30, 2011 08:44 AM (KulgD)

228

Which Historical Figures, would have fit in here as Morons...?

All of the Marx Brothers.  Even Zeppo.

Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2011 08:44 AM (XOK/H)

229 I mean, beating the French! ---------------- I think the French has dysentery, and destroyed the messicans a few days later. But the margaritas!

Posted by: MJ at June 30, 2011 08:45 AM (BKOsZ)

230

Andrew Fucking Jackson

 

Posted by: Pat Fucking Caddell at June 30, 2011 08:45 AM (XOK/H)

231

Nothing ruins the army look more than the beret.

The Army has gotten pretty dumb with their uniforms in the last few years. They got rid of the dress greens, and modified the dress blues, which were worn only at formal functions, and made that the standard dress uniform. Now, when soldiers wear the Class Bs, it's navy blue pants with a white shirt. They look like they're delivering milk. And don't get me started on the ridiculous Army Combat Uniform, which doesn't work in any tactical environment at all.

The Army should really think about resurrecting the WWII era dress uniforms, with the dark brown jackets and khaki shirts and ties.

Posted by: UGAdawg at June 30, 2011 08:45 AM (kl3xJ)

232 Ummm, guys? The stetson thing is an April Fools Day joke. (But they are getting rid of the beret, and will go back to the thingies they used to wear, whose name escapes me because I'm a fat civilian.)

Posted by: joncelli at June 30, 2011 08:47 AM (RD7QR)

233

Hmmm.... Teddy Roosevelt would have been fun to argue with... may have fit in...

Franklin R.? uh... no....

 

Lincoln? maybe....

Robert E. Lee? would have been horrified by the meanspirited NonGod Fearing pagan ways of a lot of us Morons...

US Grant? would depend whether he was on the wagon or not...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 30, 2011 08:48 AM (NtXW4)

234 Is she?  Or is she one of those pork-eating, wine-drinking Muslims who just says they're Muslim because they like their head to be in the proximity of their shoulders?


Maybe.  But there was a really good article over at American Thinker (IIRC) about her mother's ties to the Muslim Sisterhood and their stated goals of Muslim women infiltrating high level areas of foreign/enemy governments and how chief of staff for the US Secretary of State and wife of a congress critter fits that objective.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 30, 2011 08:48 AM (5d6vv)

235 6. Kwanzaa 7. May Day, International Worker's Day

Posted by: t-bird at June 30, 2011 08:48 AM (FcR7P)

236

"Those are slight differences, but every little bit counts."

These "slight differences", above a "chance" threshold are within a statistically significant to highly significant range for nearly any measurable set. In Las Vegas, for example, this sort of a shift in the "chance" occurrences at ones table of choice would cause every camera in the casino to focus there. Pit bosses would be peering over your shoulder, pretty girls would be pole dancing at the back of your chair, visions of Ferraris would be dancing in your head! The really important bit to remember, I think, is that this phenomenon seems to occur without any overt "selling" or manipulation for effect! Imagine what might be accomplished with just a little nudge to the subconscious of the (as Rush would say) Yutes and other attendees!

Posted by: Errol at June 30, 2011 08:48 AM (d2AYO)

237 172

See:  Charles McCarthy.  Yeah the guy was an alcoholic and tended toward fury.... But I love him.

Posted by: tangonine at June 30, 2011 12:59 PM (x3YFz)

Charles McCarthy was made of wood, hung out with Mortimer Snerd, and sat on Edgar Bergen's lap with his "sister," Candice Bergen.

You're probably thinking of "Tail-Gunner Joe" McCarthy.

Posted by: stuiec at June 30, 2011 01:27 PM (1beh4)

absolutely.  where in the metric poop did come up with charles?  I denounce myself.

Posted by: tangonine at June 30, 2011 08:49 AM (x3YFz)

238

Hey, Democrat,

your patriotism would be more convincing if it weren't your last fucking refuge, you fucking retards.  Every time you wave a flag you look like the love-child of Dukakis in a tank and Mitt Romney rapping.

Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at June 30, 2011 08:50 AM (epBek)

239 I don't know how it's done elsewhere, but our beach community celebrates the Fourth of July by having a golf cart parade with prizes for the best decorated vehicles. This year's theme is "Freedom Isn't Free". Our neighbor prepares popcorn is a genuine popcorn maker - using real cooking oil and salt - to hand out to parade participants as they drive by.
I gotta get my flag brackets properly arranged on our front deck on Saturday. The one on the far left (the flag's own right) isn't the highest of the four.

Posted by: No Whining at June 30, 2011 08:50 AM (HmCnI)

240

 Is she?  Or is she one of those pork-eating, wine-drinking Muslims who just says they're Muslim because they like their head to be in the proximity of their shoulders?

The answer to your question is "Bill Clinton officiated".

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 30, 2011 08:50 AM (XdlcF)

241 238
Hey, Democrat,
Your patriotism would be more convincing if it weren't your last fucking refuge, you fucking retards.  Every time you wave a flag you look like the love-child of Dukakis in a tank and Mitt Romney rapping.
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at June 30, 2011 01:50 PM (epBek)

And take off that cornbrero when the flag passes by, dipstick!

Posted by: No Whining at June 30, 2011 08:52 AM (HmCnI)

242

"To this day anything flag related or the national anthem brings tears to my eyes. Alas, for the great majority of americans, it does not."

Me too. Believe it or not, I sometimes get a touch misty when I see the Budweiser commercial about baseball where they are getting ready for the game that ends with the flyover above the stadium, or the more recent 4th of July one. And I'm a guy. Good advertising, IMO.

Posted by: RM at June 30, 2011 08:53 AM (TRsME)

243

and john mccain was almost the head of the republican party

and we know damn well he would be the amnesty king..so is it safe to say that the republican party wants to give the united states to mexico?

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 30, 2011 01:00 PM (R7NIt)

Nobody is saying the Republican party is made up of conservatives..most of all, the cosnervatives aren't. The Dems are so far left that the rare moderate simply does not go into the definition of Dem any more. The leader is a socialist so far to the left there is no light left, the senators and the congressmen are liberals,  and the party hates America....

Republicans don't hate America.....from the mods to the far right....they love America and want America to thrive again.

Posted by: giftogab at June 30, 2011 08:54 AM (SPVfc)

244 Which Historical Figures, would have fit in here as Morons...?

 
William Donovan
 Oleg Penkovsky

Posted by: Nighthawk at June 30, 2011 08:55 AM (OtQXp)

245 Comrades, creative worker mindrejection of kulak ethno-national tribal blood festivals is the highest form of patriotism!

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at June 30, 2011 08:57 AM (epBek)

246
  What a bunch of bullshit. If you live in this country, it means you buy into what it is, and WHY it is so.

  If that's too much trouble, then go befoul some other place.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 30, 2011 08:57 AM (ud5dN)

247 I tend to like Bay movies. Except for one scene in the first Transformers, in which their berets were pretty jacked, military uniforms, communications, tactics etc. were portrayed pretty well. I was surprised, not being a Transformer fan, and expecting a rather "cartoonish" portrayal of the military.`

Posted by: Honey Badger at June 30, 2011 08:58 AM (GvYeG)

248 The Fraggle Rock guys would LOVE to be morons.

Posted by: giftogab at June 30, 2011 08:58 AM (SPVfc)

249 So, today, on the way back from the Val-U-Rite run, I saw an El Paso County Sheriff parked off the side of the road running traffic.

I pulled over.  Got out. Walked up to him and said "thank you." and shook his hand.

You'd be surprised at how much that means to people that wear the uniform of a police officer or an Army Sgt or a fireman.  Two simple words and a handshake. 

When I wore a uniform it happened to me one time.  Only once.  But I'll never forget it.

Posted by: tangonine at June 30, 2011 08:59 AM (x3YFz)

250 Which Historical Figures, would have fit in here as Morons...? Thomas Paine, Patrick Henry, LightHorse Harry Lee

Posted by: Jean at June 30, 2011 09:00 AM (WkuV6)

251 203
Which Historical Figures, would have fit in here as Morons...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 30, 2011 01:38 PM (NtXW4)

Davy Crockett and every other defender at The Alamo.
Curtis LeMay
Zachary Taylor

Posted by: No Whining at June 30, 2011 09:01 AM (HmCnI)

252 230

Andrew Fucking Jackson

 

Posted by: Pat Fucking Caddell at June 30, 2011 01:45 PM (XOK/H)


I agree, "Old Hickory" would have definitely fit right in.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 30, 2011 09:02 AM (pdRb1)

253 250 Which Historical Figures, would have fit in here as Morons...? 

General George S. Patton.

Posted by: tangonine at June 30, 2011 09:03 AM (x3YFz)

254 Unfortunately I think U.S. Grant would have fit in. When he was sober enough to type. .....And Harding....... and most of all Calvin Coolidge

Posted by: dagny at June 30, 2011 09:07 AM (lI74M)

255 253 250 Which Historical Figures, would have fit in here as Morons...?

The funny part is that if you were to think of this as a lefty bloq question, they'd be offering up simon de bolivar, ho chi mihn, joseph stalin, etc.  Then they'd dance about in flower dresses (yes, the men, too) and eat vegetables and cry over a tree.

Posted by: tangonine at June 30, 2011 09:08 AM (x3YFz)

256

Which historical figures would have fit in here as morons ...

John Paul Jones

 

Posted by: Honey Badger at June 30, 2011 09:10 AM (GvYeG)

257 wait a minute--July 4th is a patriotic holiday? Sure wish I'd gone to Har-vard

Posted by: Cricket at June 30, 2011 09:11 AM (w/dFN)

258 Pershing. Not Lincoln.

Posted by: dagny at June 30, 2011 09:11 AM (lI74M)

259 You'd be surprised at how much that means to people that wear the uniform of a police officer or an Army Sgt or a fireman.  Two simple words and a handshake.


My boy, who is now 6, has been doing that to every soldier he sees since he was old enough to walk over and say it. Still does. And everytime, it doesn't matter what the person may be doing, they stop and tell him how much they appreciate it.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 30, 2011 09:11 AM (5d6vv)

260 Which Historical Figures, would have fit in here as Morons...?


Does JFK count as a historical figure?

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 30, 2011 09:13 AM (5d6vv)

261

You'd be surprised at how much that means to people that wear the uniform of a police officer or an Army Sgt or a fireman.  Two simple words and a handshake. 

After the blizzards a couple of years ago I found a new high tech cell phone in my driveway under the snow. It had not gotten wet because the temp was too low. I called sprint and she put me on the line with the fireman who, during the blizzard, had gone through my yard to put a sparking transformer line back up. He was incredibly grateful I had called, I was incredibly grateful he had protected me while I slept on the worst weather night here in 50 years. I said so. We both ended up laughing because the Sprint lady, still on the line, was sobbing.

Posted by: dagny at June 30, 2011 09:16 AM (lI74M)

262

@ Dagny, #158

Retreat is what I miss most about the Army.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at June 30, 2011 09:17 AM (epBek)

263 Once again, Dennis Prager ...

Posted by: Chuckit at June 30, 2011 09:21 AM (kdXvy)

264

Teddy Roosevelt would have been fun to argue with... may have fit in...

Teddy doesn't fit in to forums.  Forums adjust to him.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at June 30, 2011 09:22 AM (epBek)

265 262

@ Dagny, #158

Retreat is what I miss most about the Army.

I've just gotten to the point that I can listen without tearing up. Taps kills me.

I was driving through Ft Myer and watched an honor guard walking the riderless horse back to the stables. He was alone (which is rare) but even out of Arlington, that special horse, that symbol, is handled with the utmost respect and ceremony. I watched the guard, in full uniform on a 95 degree day, carefully walk the horse. Near the stables he crossed the paths of several soldiers who stopped came to attention and saluted until well after it had passed. There wasn't anyone there to see it but me and the honor guard.

Try explaining to your teenager when they get in the car after lifeguarding for 10 hours why you're weeping into the steering wheel. Guess he chalked it up to mom being nuts (again).

Posted by: dagny at June 30, 2011 09:24 AM (lI74M)

266

This is how the left celebrates the 4th -- the rainbow family of living light to camp out in Gifford Pinchot National Forrest this weekend.  20,000 + smelly hippies trashing the forrest. 

 tinyurl.com/3drkghy

Posted by: DPR VIII at June 30, 2011 09:26 AM (FdAuW)

267
I'm actually okay with number three on that list.

Posted by: Ronzoni at June 30, 2011 09:28 AM (UFJvm)

268

From the link at 266:

July 4 will feature a Circle of Peace beginning at sunrise and ending at about noon, after “a period of Ohming.”

ROTFL

Posted by: dagny at June 30, 2011 09:30 AM (lI74M)

269

Which historical figures would have fit in here as morons ...

John Paul Jones

Yeah dude, he was a totally awesome bass player.

Posted by: Zep Fan at June 30, 2011 09:43 AM (HwE/1)

270 "Have the National Endowment for the Arts fund naked interpretive dance troupes at July Fourth parades."

Only if the chicks are hot.

Posted by: hurricane567 at June 30, 2011 09:45 AM (yuwqD)

271 You said it, Gabe!

Posted by: elspeth at June 30, 2011 10:09 AM (0AkWH)

272

The founders didn't fight and die for a King to tell them what kind of health insurance they had to buy.

Of course not. They fought and died for high speed rail. Everybody knows that. /liberal

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 30, 2011 10:17 AM (juSmz)

273 249 So, today, on the way back from the Val-U-Rite run, I saw an El Paso County Sheriff parked off the side of the road running traffic.

I pulled over.  Got out. Walked up to him and said "thank you." and shook his hand.

You'd be surprised at how much that means to people that wear the uniform of a police officer or an Army Sgt or a fireman.  Two simple words and a handshake. 

When I wore a uniform it happened to me one time.  Only once.  But I'll never forget it.

Posted by: tangonine at June 30, 2011 01:59 PM (x3YFz)

If you did that in Vegas, you would get shot.

Posted by: guy in Vegas shot at Costco at June 30, 2011 10:33 AM (SPVfc)

274 As with 9/11 remembrance - turn it into a volunteer day.

Posted by: davod at June 30, 2011 01:15 PM (C5U9L)

275 I am so lucky to read your post!thank you!

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Posted by: jordanx5 at July 03, 2011 11:51 PM (W4cM9)

277 Jeebus keerist...you people have got to be the sorriest collection of ignorant douchebags to gather in one place. Take your "patriotism" and shove it up your collective asses.

Posted by: Hank at July 04, 2011 07:45 PM (imN5c)

278 Roy Edroso mocked conservative blogger coverage of this article and included your post :

http://bit.ly/khagBa

It's ironic that I got more of a chuckle out of the except of your script he included than in all the supposedly witty writing of that moron. Isn't it funny how they get so angry that supposedly Conservatives say liberals aren't patriotic, but then say that the most basic of patriotic holidays is essentially conservative?

Posted by: soopermexican at July 05, 2011 09:00 AM (2JUcp)

279 thank you for sharing,I enjoyed the article.

Posted by: Philadelphia Phillies Jersey at July 09, 2011 08:55 PM (dwhLX)

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