January 29, 2016

SOME OF HILLARY'S ILLEGAL EMAILS DEEMED "TOO DAMAGING" TO NATIONAL SECURITY TO EVER RELEASE"
— Ace

Huge.

Catherine Herridge, Pamela K. Brown:

The intelligence community has now deemed some of Hillary Clinton's emails "too damaging" to national security to release under any circumstances, according to a U.S. government official close to the ongoing review. A second source, who was not authorized to speak on the record, backed up the finding.

The decision to withhold the documents in full, and not provide even a partial release with redactions, further undercuts claims by the State Department and the Clinton campaign that none of the intelligence in the emails was classified when it hit Clinton's personal server.

This all comes in the context of the State Department failing to meet a judge's orders to disclose these emails in a timely manner, with State also not even saying if they'll be able to release them with a delay.

22 emails are too top secret to release, but not too top secret, I guess, for Hillary's non-secure email system.

The Obama administration confirmed for the first time Friday that Hillary Clinton's unsecured home server contained some of the U.S. government's most closely guarded secrets, censoring 22 emails with material demanding one of the highest levels of classification. The revelation comes just three days before the Iowa presidential nominating caucuses in which Clinton is a candidate.

The State Department will release its next batch of emails from Clinton's time as secretary of state later Friday.

But The Associated Press has learned seven email chains are being withheld in full because they contain information deemed to be "top secret." The 37 pages include messages recently described by a key intelligence official as concerning so-called "special access programs" - a highly restricted subset of classified material that could point to confidential sources or clandestine programs like drone strikes or government eavesdropping.

Team Hillary's spin? "We demand you release these highly classified emails which we also know it's against the law to release."

She wants to pretend that these aren't top secret.


Ongoing interrogation of a State Department spokesman who's trying to play down all of Hillary's illegal top secret emails.

Catherine Herridge is not having this twit's weird claim that while these emails have been confirmed as SAP (higher than top secret) when they hit the server, they weren't "marked" as SAP when they hit the server. He won't say if he accepts this confirmation (for the intelligence services, which certify this information was in fact SAP when Hillary sent it out), and also won't say he disputes it. He just keeps pushing Hillary's line that they weren't "marked" as such.

"Are you saying that you do not accept the sworn declaration of the intelligence community that these emails were classified when they were sent?"

He keeps saying they accept the "upgrade" to top secret, but won't admit that the IC has said they were top secret at the moment they were sent -- that is, they weren't "upgraded" to classified, they always were classified.

He is now being grilled on this "marked" bullshit -- another reporter, a male, is pointing out that it doesn't matter if it's "marked" classified if it is classified.

The spokesman is saying "that process is ongoing" and that it will be answered by some separate process.

Let me once again say that Catherine Herridge is indispensable. She just keeps coming back on this and will not allow him to continue not answering. (But he continues to not answer.)

Let me explain her line of questioning: While the spokesman claims State accepts the "upgrade" to classified status, he refuses to admit this information was already classified. He is insisting that a separate State Department inquiry will figure out if this stuff was in fact already classified, and not just "upgraded" to classified now.

Herridge keeps pointing out that the agency which originated the intelligence gets to make that call -- and they've already made it. Hence, there is no role for the State Department to make some sort of independent investigation; the answer is already in hand. But he won't accept that; as a dilatory and evasive tactic, he's inisting that State be allowed to look into this matter.

Over and over again, she presses him: It has been looked into by the only people authorized to offer a finding on it. Do you accept that?

He keeps saying he'll wait for some other "process" at State to determine this.

He once again says the State Department will review the classification at the time the emails were sent, ignoring the fact they'd already been sworn as classified at that moment by the agency responsible for the information.

Jesus, he just stressed it wasn't "marked" classified. Again.

And again he says it's being "upgraded" to top secret -- he will not concede it was always top secret. They insist on claiming the top secret status is a new thing, or at least, they're unwilling to concede otherwise.

Posted by: Ace at 10:35 AM | Comments (638)
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1 Indict. Now.

Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 10:36 AM (jBuUi)

2 >>1 Indict. Now.
Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 03:36 PM (jBuUi)


Hear, hear.

Posted by: Jay Guevara[/i][/b][/s][/u] at January 29, 2016 10:38 AM (oKE6c)

3 Local State Department news, nothing to see here!

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 29, 2016 10:39 AM (wYnyS)

4 Pretty much my only hope is that Obama is vain and petty enough to let them indict her out of spite, and then have his guy Biden step in and take the nomination. If that's not the plan, she's not going down.

Posted by: Joe at January 29, 2016 10:39 AM (KUaJL)

5 Awwww - Bush loses out to Fiorina for the coveted 8th-place spot in the latest Drudge poll! : http://www.drudgereport.com/ WHO IS YOUR REPUBLICAN PICK FOR PRESIDENT? TRUMP 58.63% (582,435 votes) CRUZ 20.19% (200,607 votes) RUBIO 8.25% (81,997 votes) PAUL 5.48% (54,457 votes) KASICH 1.63% (16,155 votes) CARSON 1.54% (15,307 votes) CHRISTIE 1.31% (12,970 votes) FIORINA 1.2% (11,905 votes) BUSH 1.16% (11,537 votes) HUCKABEE 0.33% (3,285 votes) SANTORUM 0.28% (2,795 votes) If Bush climbs out of ninth place and breaks the 1% barrier, will the MSM count that as a "win" for him in Iowa?

Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 10:39 AM (jBuUi)

6 Catherine Herridge needs to look out. She's going to get hacked.

Posted by: blaster at January 29, 2016 10:39 AM (2Ocf1)

7 GAWD granny is too old and feeble to know what is and isn't classified without a big red stamp on it so let's put her in charge.

Posted by: ryukyu at January 29, 2016 10:39 AM (FuBZa)

8 I could not even begin to count the number of non-anointed persons with clearances that would already be in Leavenworth if they had been caught doing half the stuff that Hillieary has done with impunity,

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 29, 2016 10:41 AM (wYnyS)

9 He just keeps pushing Hillary's line that they weren't "marked" as such. "You mean 'marked' ... like with a Sharpie?"

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2016 10:41 AM (zc3Db)

10 This evil witch would lie if the truth would serve her better.

Posted by: D the J at January 29, 2016 10:41 AM (+dzqV)

11 And none of you could tell us Nood downstairs? SMDH. I'll do it

Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 10:42 AM (2x3L+)

12 Let me once again say that Catherine Herridge is indispensable. she's great

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:42 AM (qCMvj)

13 I literally can't even. If I get a security violation for leaving one piece of paper on my desk with confidential stamped on it (which I didn't but I'm trying to make a point) why the hell can TS/SAP material be transferred willy-nilly around unsecure servers with no one getting at least a wrist slap??? I am so ashamed I was ever a part of this organization.

Posted by: Moki at January 29, 2016 10:43 AM (7q2ch)

14 It is abundantly clear that none of the regime's staff a) understand the concept of classification, b) the concept of National Security, or c) give a sh!t about this country.

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 29, 2016 10:43 AM (wYnyS)

15 They are preparing for the defense that it is all the fault of the underlings sending Hillary the emails. Poor Granny had no idea that the classifications where being stripped, well except for that one email wherein she demanded it be done.

Posted by: Dave J at January 29, 2016 10:44 AM (jbXDH)

16 Let me once again say that Catherine Herridge is indispensable. If by "Catherine Herridge" you mean "Christina Hendricks," then yes.

Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 10:44 AM (jBuUi)

17 see updates; i've digested the past six minutes of questioning. it's important.

Posted by: ace at January 29, 2016 10:44 AM (dciA+)

18 I've watched the Democrat Party, the Justice Department, the News Media, Pop Culture, and stupid americans cover for those two venal slugs for almost 25 years now. They should both be beneath the jail.

Posted by: Sam in VA at January 29, 2016 10:44 AM (bNi5D)

19 Like Issa was saying, "I think he's in a position where he's being forced to triple-time make a case of what would otherwise be, what they call, a slam dunk," Issa said, referring to FBI Director James Comey, who previously told the Senate Judiciary Committee he would conduct a "competent," "honest" and "independent" probe into Clinton's handling of classified information during her tenure as secretary of state.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:45 AM (qCMvj)

20 Let me explain her line of questioning: While the spokesman claims State accepts the "upgrade" to classified status, he refuses to admit this information was already classified. He is insisting that a separate State Department inquiry will figure out if this stuff was in fact already classified, and not just "upgraded" to classified now. Herridge keeps pointing out that the agency which originated the intelligence gets to make that call -- *and they've already made it.* Hence, there is no role for the State Department to make some sort of independent finding; the answer is already in hand. But he won't accept that; as a dilatory and evasive tactic, he's inisting that State be allowed to look into this matter. Over and over again, she presses him: It has been looked into by the only people authorized to offer a finding on it. Do you accept that? He keeps saying he'll wait for some other "process" at State to determine this.

Posted by: ace at January 29, 2016 10:45 AM (dciA+)

21 U. S. secrets for donations to the Clinton Foundation. TREASON

Posted by: Zoltan at January 29, 2016 10:45 AM (JYer2)

22 400 years.  M1 Garands.  Fucko.   That is all.

Posted by: Yip und dos Corinthians at January 29, 2016 10:45 AM (e7T6D)

23 Fine...

Next question is if anyone removed the classification before they were sent.

The question after that would be if any of this would be necessary if she'd used the .gov machine she was supposed to.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 29, 2016 10:45 AM (oVJmc)

24 Dear God in Heaven, I am sick to death of the parsing. This is such a shitty flashback of the past 20 frickin years. It is all about the minutiae of the words in which the charge is made, rather than the base substance of the charge itself. Did Hillary expose vital intelligence? "Well, it was not 'marked' as vital." Cut the horse shit. I do not give a flying frijole whether or not it was fricking marked as anything. I give a shit about whether our adversaries were able to view critical intelligence because this lady is a paranoid sociopath who does not want anyone seeing that she is a moral invalid.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 29, 2016 10:46 AM (iHjB5)

25 GAWD granny is too old and feeble to know what is and isn't classified without a big red stamp on it so let's put her in charge. Posted by: ryukyu at January 29, 2016 03:39 PM (FuBZa) Just don't let her near the nuclear button. She'd be worse than Eleanor Norton-Holmes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 29, 2016 10:46 AM (8ZskC)

26 The calculus for the Left now is: Do we indict Hillary BEFORE the primaries, hanidn the nomination to Sanders? Or do we wait until AFTER she wins the nom, and then circle the wagons around her, claiming the indictment is a "right-wing smear job"? Because those are the only choices they have left.

Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 10:46 AM (jBuUi)

27 >>>another reporter, a male, is pointing out that it doesn't matter if it's "marked" classified if it is classified Matt Lee, Associated Press

Posted by: m at January 29, 2016 10:46 AM (S/1cF)

28 Watch the Democrat Primary results. If Hillary falters, she will be indicted. What have you done for us lately/today? It all comes down to the good of the Partei

Posted by: rd at January 29, 2016 10:46 AM (v0YLX)

29 9- I call bullshit. Every document generated at State has to be given a classification before it can be sent. Every. Freaking. Document. There are also strict guidelines for determining classification-each document has to meet thresholds for the lowest classification-if they aren't met, you immediately put the higher classification on it. It's almost top down classifying, to make sure you don't distribute information improperly. But obviously, that is just silly talk amongst these people. Just grrrrrrrrr.

Posted by: Moki at January 29, 2016 10:46 AM (7q2ch)

30 Catherine Herridge is the best investigative reporter out there. With the tenacity of a bulldog, the mind of a genius, the memory of a savant, and the grace of a lady. Deadly combo. She should have had a Pulitzer or equivalent a long time ago. She is Aces. The best. Bravo.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (7lqMl)

31 Like Issa was saying, "I think he's in a position where he's being forced to triple-time make a case of what would otherwise be, what they call, a slam dunk," Issa said, referring to FBI Director James Comey, who previously told the Senate Judiciary Committee he would conduct a "competent," "honest" and "independent" probe into Clinton's handling of classified information during her tenure as secretary of state. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 03:45 PM (qCMvj) Issa would know all about that. He's spent years making a joke out of slam-dunk cases that languished and died under his "investigations".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (zc3Db)

32 >>>Let me once again say that Catherine Herridge is indispensable. She just keeps coming back on this and will not allow him to continue not answering. (But he continues to not answer.) Good for her. Of course when I looked her up the other day to see who she was her third Google result Is that ridiculous slit skirt video...which hilariously had no sound. Fox man.

Posted by: Lea at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (pVm8g)

33 Herridge needs to stay on brightly lighted streets at night!

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (wYnyS)

34 Would love to watch it, but ghostery wants to block the Brightcove player.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (ptqRm)

35 Why is there no public integrity left anywhere in Washington? This man works for the State Department. Instead of hemming and hawing, why not just stand up and say "no, I'm not gonna lie for Hillary. Looks from here like she's in Deep Shit, but I'm going to defer to the FBI and Justice Department without commenting on the specific depth and color of feces in which Madame Secretary now finds herself."

Posted by: Sam in VA at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (bNi5D)

36 Over and over again, she presses him: It has been looked into by the only people authorized to offer a finding on it. Do you accept that? He keeps saying he'll wait for some other "process" at State to determine this. Posted by: ace at January 29, 2016 03:45 PM (dciA+) He does not accept it. The current inhabitants of the executive branch do not accept the authority of the other branches of government, and they certainly do not accept authority of offices under their direct control on some legal or procedural pretext. Any situation which does not make them the ultimate arbiter of right and wrong must, by its nature, be a pretext.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (xuouz)

37 Two sets of rules

Posted by: Caliban at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (DrC22)

38 this is just the lies from the admin that the GOP have been trying to get us cwazy wed reck base voters to accept as normal course or business bc to fight back against the lies would upset the moderates, sending them into arms of full blown socialism.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (EjBTO)

39 Indict. Now. Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 03:36 PM (jBuUi) Hear, hear. Posted by: Jay Guevara F that. Firing squad by dinner. Tonight.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 10:47 AM (SAhpk)

40 Herridge needs to stay on brightly lighted streets at night! And have a trusted personal food taster.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2016 10:48 AM (w4NZ8)

41 Herridge keeps pointing out that the agency which originated the intelligence gets to make that call -- *and they've already made it.* Hence, there is no role for the State Department to make some sort of independent finding; the answer is already in hand. But he won't accept that; as a dilatory and evasive tactic, he's inisting that State be allowed to look into this matter. Over and over again, she presses him: It has been looked into by the only people authorized to offer a finding on it. Do you accept that? He keeps saying he'll wait for some other "process" at State to determine this. Posted by: ace at January 29, 2016 03:45 PM (dciA+) they are stretching it until after the elections, if they can make that happen

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:48 AM (qCMvj)

42 26 And you know which they will choose. Protect the brand, no matter the cost. They will push for the stay, then circle the wagons.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 29, 2016 10:48 AM (iHjB5)

43 I think my favorite moments in government press conferences were during Desert Storm when the military used 80 different ways to say "FYNQ." "I don't have that information, I'll get back to you" "I can't pass on that information at this time" "That is something we cannot discuss for reasons I'm sure you understand" etc. Basically the press got jack and had to like it. But they kept asking anyway. "Can you tell us the exact location and composition of our special forces targeting locations in Kuwait?" "What kind of intelligence operations in detail are you engaged in?" "Where is the fifth armored division moving to and can you draw it on this map for the Iraqi army to see?"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:48 AM (39g3+)

44 so condescending, this is

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:48 AM (qCMvj)

45 Catherine Herridge better watch out.

The last reporter to put pressure on the administration was Sheryl Atkinson, and CBS kicked her to the curb rather have her besmirch Jugears McFuckstick's already sordid reputation...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 29, 2016 10:48 AM (wtvvX)

46 35 Why is there no public integrity left anywhere in Washington? This man works for the State Department. Instead of hemming and hawing, why not just stand up and say "no, I'm not gonna lie for Hillary. Looks from here like she's in Deep Shit, but I'm going to defer to the FBI and Justice Department without commenting on the specific depth and color of feces in which Madame Secretary now finds herself." Posted by: Sam in VA at January 29, 2016 03:47 PM (bNi5D) Because they're true believers, real religious cultists, in the most fashionable religion currently out there, the cult of transnational socialism. And they're so close to bringing about their utopia. Don't you rednecks get it? They've never been closer.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:48 AM (xuouz)

47 Ace, I've been told that Hillary!'s behavior vis-a-vis the emails is not limited to her and her coterie; rather, it's rampant throughout the State Department. Anyone who questions it internally is brushed off with the excuse that "it's the organization's culture." State has a vested interest in making this go away, not to protect Hillary!, but to protect themselves. I'm told this is also the "culture" at DHS.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2016 10:48 AM (GUBah)

48 This endless BULLSHIT has to stop. Everyone in government is complicit - either by acting out or simply enabling the lawlessness and corruption. Therefore, TRUMP.

Posted by: ouch at January 29, 2016 10:49 AM (40IrJ)

49 There are things so top secret in these emails that we simply can't release them in any form to the public.

So you're saying she definitely broke the law by transmitting top secret information in emails sent through the private server?

Well...



Shit's getting ridiculous now.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2016 10:49 AM (4ErVI)

50 Issa would know all about that. He's spent years making a joke out of slam-dunk cases that languished and died under his "investigations". Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2016 03:47 PM (zc3Db) I know. I had high hopes.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:49 AM (qCMvj)

51 "We, like you, respect deadlines." (Unintelligible noises from the press.) Laughter?

Posted by: redsweater at January 29, 2016 10:49 AM (IMo04)

52 Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 03:47 PM (SAhpk) By careful what you say. You're asking for a Secret Service visit. Ace?

Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 10:49 AM (jBuUi)

53 reporter's wearing a Team scarf?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:50 AM (qCMvj)

54 Also, impeachment is off the table.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:50 AM (xuouz)

55 The last reporter to put pressure on the administration was Sheryl Atkinson, and CBS kicked her to the curb rather have her besmirch Jugears McFuckstick's already sordid reputation...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 29, 2016 03:48 PM (wtvvX)


I'd really like to put some pressure on Sharyl Attkisson.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2016 10:50 AM (4ErVI)

56 Sheppy just said the State Dept. won't be releasing any e-mails today.

Pitchforks, ropes, lampposts, tar, feathers....

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2016 10:50 AM (FsuaD)

57 We are stuck in a Groundhog Day like loop with the Clintons.  Sexual Harassment then, visiting Epstein's fantasy island now, financial shenanigans such as cattle trading and Whitewater, Chinese and other foreign campaign contributions then, Clinton Foundation shenanigans 2001-2015 now.  Black Hawk Down, and not striking at Bin Ladin then, allowing the Benghazi fiasco and Syrian crisis now. 

Just imagine what eight years with her as POTUS and Conspirator in Chief would be like. There would be flaming skulls at the AOS on a daily basis.

Posted by: whig at January 29, 2016 10:50 AM (mlyQI)

58 Rush implied today that she will not face judgement for what she's done here. She is a Clinton. And they get away with everything. As I said in the previous thread, I heard Josh Earnest on a clip today being asked about the prosecution of Hillary. He said, from what he knows so far, the FBI is not looking at Hillary's involvement. I'm paraphrasing what I heard, but took it to mean there is a fall guy/girl that will take the heat. Would we be surprised?

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at January 29, 2016 10:50 AM (pVkEV)

59 Yep they are providing cover. FBI says indict but lo and behold State says no problems here just to muddy the waters.

Posted by: ryukyu at January 29, 2016 10:50 AM (FuBZa)

60 Why is there no public integrity left anywhere in Washington? because for 8 years now, everyone working there has been hired, fired, and promoted based on ideological allegiance, not skill, integrity, or honor. And look around you in society: how much integrity is left anywhere? That's where we are as a society; virtues are considered at best quaint and generally as stupid and bad.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:50 AM (39g3+)

61 I can't understand why Obama is protecting Hillary. I'm gradually beginning to suspect that somehow Obama encouraged/authorized/hinted - looked the other way - dodged the issue with a wink and a nudge. Almost as if Obama wanted this to happen. It could be that he was simply indifferent, or Hillary put the bamboozle on him. But this is on Obama now. This has gone beyond Hillary.

Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 29, 2016 10:50 AM (BrgUe)

62 49 There are things so top secret in these emails that we simply can't release them in any form to the public. Chinese public, yes. American public, no.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 10:50 AM (SAhpk)

63

She and Jennifer Griffith remains the best argument for continuing to watch Fox news.

 

She had to donate part of her liver to her newborn kid  - years ago.  

 

She's a finisher.

Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 10:51 AM (JTwsP)

64 How the fuck long does Team Clinton get to skate on what the "meaning of  'is' is"???

Indict this drunk bitch NOW.

Posted by: Mortimer[/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 10:51 AM (R1a9g)

65 Gonna need a flaming walker for the Day Of Indictment.

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 10:51 AM (gyKtp)

66 recall that the GOP only gets about 2 hours every four years to make its case directly to US people, during the prez debates b4 people fall asleep. Romney wasted that time in 2012. This dishonest bullshit needs to be made public during our window. Next GOP candidate can't do the bullshit of "oh, while I prepare my concession speech, let me note that the donk over there is a good person who loves the USA"

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 10:51 AM (EjBTO)

67 Because they're true believers, real religious cultists, in the most fashionable religion currently out there, the cult of transnational socialism. And they're so close to bringing about their utopia. Don't you rednecks get it? They've never been closer. Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 03:48 PM (xuouz) Yup. Nothing, like a Reagan, will stand in their way, this time.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 29, 2016 10:51 AM (zYV5P)

68 Ghost of Kari.... I object to you (implied... heavily implied) going all Fuck0 on this administration and the way you imply they drink koolaide-ish drinks and cover their collective assholes with their smallish boy-hands.

Enough.... is Enough.

How LONG have you been on this blog anyway, because I go back a LONG way.

Eleventy.

Posted by: Yip und dos Corinthians at January 29, 2016 10:52 AM (e7T6D)

69 Funny how the worst email news comes out last, on a Fri, days before Iowa. almost seems like they planned it all. Just not sure if the timing is good or bad for Hillary. It is so late, will the news filter down to to Iowans who might be swayed before Feb 1?

Posted by: Baldy at January 29, 2016 10:52 AM (1SCTq)

70 How much do you want to bet that Hillary wasn't a trendsetter in being fast-and-loose with moving sensitive information from secure to insecure systems at State? That so many FBI agents are involved because they keep uncovering more, and deeper, rot? That the NSA, the service intelligence agencies - all of them - are white-faced with fury right now not just at the HRC crew but everyone in Foggy Bottom? If I am right look for a wave of retirements from State.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 10:52 AM (hLRSq)

71 The guy's doing a Cirque du Soleil act right now.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:52 AM (qCMvj)

72 Why is there no public integrity left anywhere in Washington?

Posted by: Sam in VA at


Integrity?

But that's where the money is...

Posted by: Willie Sutton* at January 29, 2016 10:52 AM (W0RfD)

73 Just thank God we're not having to listen to Josh Earnest.

Posted by: m at January 29, 2016 10:52 AM (S/1cF)

74 Trial by firing squad. If they survive, they're cleared. ...I mean, since due process is passe and all.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 29, 2016 10:52 AM (9krrF)

75 Well, this is the same line that Her Imperial Hillaryness has been taking all along. Good for the reporter(s), though .... hope they stay employed. 8 years will barely be enough for all the treason (et cetera) trials that need to happen to all branches of the gov.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 29, 2016 10:52 AM (Z8DIA)

76 Don't you rednecks get it?


Body-shamer!

Posted by: Mortimer[/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 10:53 AM (R1a9g)

77 People ought to be grabbing pitchforks, cutlasses and torches on their way to DoS. Because it has been taken over by people who have abandoned their duty to the people of this country for an old, corrupt hag who wants to be president so badly, she will lie, cheat, steal and manipulate to do so.

There has never been this kind of political corruption in our government. Ever.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 29, 2016 10:53 AM (GGCsk)

78 HRC to Jake: "send unsecure" it's done

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 10:53 AM (8Vn+p)

79 61 I can't understand why Obama is protecting Hillary.


Perhaps the Beast has copies of Barry's college transcripts.  And pics from Man Country.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2016 10:53 AM (FsuaD)

80 5 Awwww - Bush loses out to Fiorina for the coveted 8th-place spot in the latest Drudge poll! : http://www.drudgereport.com/ WHO IS YOUR REPUBLICAN PICK FOR PRESIDENT? TRUMP 58.63% (582,435 votes) CRUZ 20.19% (200,607 votes) RUBIO 8.25% (81,997 votes) PAUL 5.48% (54,457 votes) KASICH 1.63% (16,155 votes) CARSON 1.54% (15,307 votes) CHRISTIE 1.31% (12,970 votes) FIORINA 1.2% (11,905 votes) BUSH 1.16% (11,537 votes) HUCKABEE 0.33% (3,285 votes) SANTORUM 0.28% (2,795 votes) If Bush climbs out of ninth place and breaks the 1% barrier, will the MSM count that as a "win" for him in Iowa? There are only like 30 delegates from Iowa. Anyone with less than 10% support is likely to get zero or zippo. But he may get some delegates from his buddies in the RNC, like Gov. Braindead.

Posted by: rd at January 29, 2016 10:53 AM (v0YLX)

81 The next Republican president's Secretary of State should fire everybody in Foggy Bottom and start again. Every single nook and cranny of that place is compromised.

Posted by: Decaf at January 29, 2016 10:53 AM (482y1)

82 And yet there are people who will vote for the treasonous b*tch --- either outright, by non-vote, or by 3rd party vote --- because they don't like the GOP candidate.

Posted by: Pilate at January 29, 2016 10:53 AM (T/5A0)

83 omg I can't watch this tool

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:54 AM (qCMvj)

84 THERE is a reason the many of us in the Military are FORCED by threat of separation ( being kicked the fuck out ) and UCMJ prosecution when sending out Emails: They don't leave it us to us to determine what is really secret and what is only kinda secret. DON'T USE CIVILIAN EMAIL It really is not brain surgery. Of course unless your a fuckin retard democrat and State department boot licker

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 10:54 AM (DUoqb)

85 The State Department spokesman appears to be answering no questions. So why is he hanging around while people ask questions?

Posted by: m at January 29, 2016 10:54 AM (S/1cF)

86 57 ...Just imagine what eight years with her as POTUS and Conspirator in Chief would be like. There would be flaming skulls at the AOS on a daily basis. - Posted by: whig at January 29, 2016 03:50 PM (mlyQI)
***********************************************************

H! in the White House? AOSHQ will be 404.

Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster at January 29, 2016 10:54 AM (ucB75)

87 Because they're true believers, real religious cultists, in the most fashionable religion currently out there, the cult of transnational socialism. And they're so close to bringing about their utopia. Don't you rednecks get it? They've never been closer. Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 03:48 PM (xuouz) This. This plus a million. These are the people who sent a woman as Ambassador to Saddam Hussein's Iraq before the first Gulf War, who was known to people of the area as a whore, because she was unmarried and slept around during her first tour in Kuwait, many years before. So Hussein had no respect for her, and the war crashed on in spite of her rather sniveling attempts at negotiation. But State wanted to show they were diverse, and could put women anywhere and have them serve. Nice attitude in the West, but it doesn't freaking work in the Middle East. Unless you know how to work there as a woman. Being a brass balls bitch will NOT get it done. Argh. Sorry. But I have spent the better part of 25 years with these people. There aren't enough showers to wash the grime away.

Posted by: Moki at January 29, 2016 10:54 AM (7q2ch)

88 re: 68 Day made, fucklet. Oh yeah, I'm nimble like that.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:54 AM (xuouz)

89 The next Republican president's Secretary of State should fire everybody in Foggy Bottom and start again. Every single nook and cranny of that place is compromised. ************ fire? The moderates would hate that. We need these self-less civil servants. We want them.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 10:54 AM (EjBTO)

90 Gee, I wonder what the final findings will be?

Posted by: m at January 29, 2016 10:54 AM (S/1cF)

91 Death.... by Unga Boonga !

Posted by: Yip und dos Corinthians at January 29, 2016 10:54 AM (e7T6D)

92 Bernie is tired of hearing about her emails.

Posted by: The Bern, FEEL IT! at January 29, 2016 10:55 AM (QM5S2)

93 I can't understand why Obama is protecting Hillary.

Considering his work ethic, maybe he's got his own private email server too...

Posted by: tu3031 at January 29, 2016 10:55 AM (YFFpo)

94 "At the request of the IC, some of the documents are getting upgraded to TS." Ummmm, probably because they ARE TS! Hillz are her buds were sharing it around on the unclass side. He makes it seem like the "upgrade" is out of an abundance of caution while the review is going on. If they're "upgrading" it, they've more than likely determined that it's a TS document.

Posted by: Mainah at January 29, 2016 10:55 AM (659DL)

95 Herridge, and indeed Fox News' future hinges on this next election. If Clinton wins, they either adapt or perish. I can easily see Fox going the route of CNN on the presumption (maybe true) that the US doesn't want a patriotic right-leaning network. There has never been this kind of political corruption in our government. Ever. Things were pretty ghastly under Harding, but the difference is back then there was at least an underlying Judeo-Christian heritage and sense of justice in the culture.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:55 AM (39g3+)

96 >>>I'm paraphrasing what I heard, but took it to mean there is a fall guy/girl that will take the heat. Would we be surprised?

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at January 29, 2016 03:50 PM (pVkEV)<<<



Oh yeah, a buffer. The (Clinton) family has a lot of buffers!

Posted by: Willi Cicci at January 29, 2016 10:55 AM (H9MG5)

97 oh right, all this stuff was mismarked, we don't know if it was classified or not, we need more time ....

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 10:55 AM (8Vn+p)

98 Hold my beer and watch what I do with this hard-drive.

Posted by: hilllary at January 29, 2016 10:55 AM (WOyz5)

99 Matt Lee is a hero.

Posted by: m at January 29, 2016 10:55 AM (S/1cF)

100 This certainly gives you warm and fuzzies that they don't know whether something is actually classified without an after the fact strenuous examination. TOP PEOPLE in this administration.

Posted by: ryukyu at January 29, 2016 10:55 AM (FuBZa)

101 I actually can understand not being able to see the emails due to highly classified content. I get that.

But if it's that highly classified, what is it doing in Hillary's private email sent through a private server?

I vote guilty.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 29, 2016 10:55 AM (4ErVI)

102 We get the government we deserve; this shit is a symptom, not the cause.

A good half of this country is a-okay with this bullshit, so long as it's their guy doing it.

Posted by: Chupacabra at January 29, 2016 10:56 AM (W2YA6)

103 "I'm gradually beginning to suspect that somehow Obama encouraged/authorized/hinted - looked the other way - dodged the issue with a wink and a nudge. ' See the update at Zip's place. If there actual emails between POTUS and SoS, with the SoS email addy not being a '.gov', but Hillary@gmail.com, Obama has a deniability problem.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2016 10:56 AM (ptqRm)

104 I'm dead.

Posted by: Sense of Shame in America at January 29, 2016 10:56 AM (R1a9g)

105 What if the people in charge of determining what counts as treason are themselves committing treason? What then? Because that's where we are.

Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 10:56 AM (jBuUi)

106 I can't understand why Obama is protecting Hillary. Considering his work ethic, maybe he's got his own private email server too... Posted by: tu3031 at January 29, 2016 03:55 PM (YFFpo) As I said the other day, he may not be----we don't know what is going on behind the scenes....He might just not want his finger prints on it and her finally fall...He has Warren and Biden waiting in the wings...Didn't anyone else find it suspicious how and when Biden bowed out?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 10:56 AM (DUoqb)

107 74 Trial by firing squad. If they survive, they're cleared. ...I mean, since due process is passe and all. Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 29, 2016 03:52 PM (9krrF) Musketball don't lie

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:56 AM (xuouz)

108 Posted by: tu3031 at January 29, 2016 03:55 PM (YFFpo) I just wanted to point out you have a Furry's hash. Carry on.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 29, 2016 10:56 AM (9krrF)

109 Cruz (preferably) or Trump should come out and say that among the Day 1 things he will do as President will be to abolish the Department of State, fire all those assholes, and start over with a new Department of Foreign Relations or something like that. Staff the new DFR with properly vetted military officers. Preferably ones who have seen active combat service.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 10:56 AM (s5o+q)

110 @63...yep. Both are brave women who have faced health issues: Catherine donating part of her liver to her son; and Jennifer having stage IV (I think) breast cancer. Fighters and seekers of truth. Best reporters out there.They lead but few have the courage to follow.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 29, 2016 10:57 AM (7lqMl)

111 I'd wager that if one had full access to the Clinton Crime Foundation records and the dates of when these so highly secret that they were on special computers that didn't allow emails or other outputs and had to be copied with a smart phone camera or such to be forwarded to Hillary's private server there are several cases of a donations then boom info is there on her insecure server where any competent hacker could see it. She should have been impeached in 2012, its proof the system is badly broken that she was not.

Posted by: PaleRider at January 29, 2016 10:57 AM (dkExz)

112 >> 61 I can't understand why Obama is protecting Hillary.<<

It's not Obama. It's the tribe and they put protection of themselves over our country every day of the week.

I hope their behavior destroys the Democrat Party for generations. Because their tribe has become the enemy of every person who values our democratic republic.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 29, 2016 10:57 AM (GGCsk)

113 The Obama administration-where accountability goes to die.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2016 10:57 AM (w4NZ8)

114 Here's how at least half the country views Hillary and her lying b*tch ways, or at least her legion of MFM water carriers. Published today. They don't care if she has no integrity. They don't care if she's a liar. They don't care if she's dishonest. (WaPo) "It Really Doesn't Matter if Hillary Clinton is Dishonest" http://tinyurl.com/jcffcyb

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at January 29, 2016 10:57 AM (pVkEV)

115 Love the dogged focus on being "marked" classified when they all know that the markings are irrelevant, it's the *content* that determines whether or not it is classified, and what level.

Bet there's been a lot of mishandling by Obama's crew and so they don't want anything leading back to them (not just protecting Hilary at this point).

Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 10:57 AM (NOIQH)

116 Drudge sez the FBI wants to indict both Hillary and Huma.
 
WZ sez that 18 emails between TFG and Hillary are being totally withheld as well, under the Preezy Records Act or somesuch.

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 10:57 AM (gyKtp)

117 I wonder how many moles/agents will lose their lives because of this bitch?

I hope Teddy K. is saving a special seat in hell for her.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2016 10:57 AM (FsuaD)

118 103 "I'm gradually beginning to suspect that somehow Obama encouraged/authorized/hinted - looked the other way - dodged the issue with a wink and a nudge. ' See the update at Zip's place. If there actual emails between POTUS and SoS, with the SoS email addy not being a '.gov', but Hillary@gmail.com, Obama has a deniability problem. Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2016 03:56 PM (ptqRm) I've said before, I say again. This is not a Hillary scandal. This is an Obama Administration scandal. And, it starts edging up to the boundaries of treason.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 10:58 AM (s5o+q)

119 If she gets indickted I will be so shocked and happy I will get kneewalking drunk. I promise. Please GOD make it so.

Posted by: Eromero at January 29, 2016 10:58 AM (zLDYs)

120

109

 

Of course you'll lose the state of Virginia. Better they don't say it but just do it.

Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 10:58 AM (JTwsP)

121 9 "He just keeps pushing Hillary's line that they weren't "marked" as such. "You mean 'marked' ... like with a Sharpie?" No.. Wiped, as with a cloth. Keep your eyes on the prize folks. "They" want you to think that this is all about the unauthorized server and the mishandling of classified documents Which is bad enough as it is. But there were things on those documents that "they" do not want revealed. I suspect that what "they" are covering up is straight up treason. After all, with the pornography of the deal with Iran being in the open can you imagine what "they" are trying to hide? It all comes back to what was going on in that compound in Benghazi, what was *really* going on. Who were those arms going to and under whose authority. My guess? BHO was feeding ISIS arms covertly.

Posted by: turfmann at January 29, 2016 10:58 AM (QHOa0)

122 Things were pretty ghastly under Harding, but the difference is back then there was at least an underlying Judeo-Christian heritage and sense of justice in the culture. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 03:55 PM (39g3+) And someone had to actually hop a boat or at least hand over an envelope to sell secrets to our enemies. Hillary's on the cutting edge of automating business processes when it comes to treason.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 10:58 AM (xuouz)

123 The feed is really staticky. Is that because a bazillion people are watching this press conference, I hope?

Posted by: m at January 29, 2016 10:58 AM (S/1cF)

124 Both are brave women who have faced health issues: Catherine donating part of her liver to her son; and Jennifer having stage IV (I think) breast cancer. Fighters and seekers of truth. Best reporters out there.They lead but few have the courage to follow. Herridge and Griffin are the last two people at Fox I have any respect for. They're way too good for that joint.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 29, 2016 10:58 AM (9krrF)

125 Any chance of getting an archive-able vid link?

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at January 29, 2016 10:59 AM (9eYoy)

126 Things were pretty ghastly under Harding, but the difference is back then there was at least an underlying Judeo-Christian heritage and sense of justice in the culture. Posted by: Christopher Taylor Under Harding, during that era, there were not yet any worldwide ideologies threatening our civilization. Now we have two -- communism and jihadism -- and our current Traitors in Chief are on the enemy side of both threats. The stakes are much much higher now than a century ago.

Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 10:59 AM (jBuUi)

127 Obama has a deniability problem. No, I don't.

Posted by: president o'bumbles at January 29, 2016 10:59 AM (WOyz5)

128 I can't understand why Obama is protecting Hillary. Considering his work ethic, maybe he's got his own private email server too... Posted by: tu3031 at January 29, 2016 03:55 PM (YFFpo) How much do you want to bet that his people played fast-and-loose with moving sensitive information from secure to insecure systems also? And that the NSA knows this and has said so?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 10:59 AM (hLRSq)

129 President Boyfriend does things like a mob boss: probably doesn't even allow a phone in his house.

Posted by: Chupacabra at January 29, 2016 10:59 AM (W2YA6)

130 @106, because the onus (anus?) is on him. She worked and was chosen by him. He, as the grand Pooba leader of the world, is supposed to know this stuff. Plus, the bath house, popper, birth certificate, transcripts, etc that the Clinton's hold...it was they who started the birther rumors. Each know where bodies are buried. But if Barry sees the ship sinking he will bail, with a ready-made excuse ala valjar: I did not know. I did not know until I read it in the paper. I did not know. harf.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 29, 2016 10:59 AM (7lqMl)

131 ABC now reporting that emails between Hillary and Obama have been found but will not be released. Was admin knowingly sending and replying to her personal account?

Posted by: Dave J at January 29, 2016 10:59 AM (jbXDH)

132 OT Newt's timing couldn't be more perfect. Duplicity: A Novel by Newt Gingrich Pre-election. He'll be swimming in money.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 10:59 AM (qCMvj)

133 (WaPo) "It Really Doesn't Matter if Hillary Clinton is Dishonest" WaPo's stealing our schtick!

Posted by: Vox Rox, and Here's Why at January 29, 2016 10:59 AM (2WoCi)

134 Wonder if Bernie Sanders is watching and taking notes.

Posted by: m at January 29, 2016 10:59 AM (S/1cF)

135 A good half of this country is a-okay with this bullshit, so long as it's their guy doing it. A good 20% or more think there should be like, no secrets anyway, maaann.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 10:59 AM (39g3+)

136 I'm paraphrasing what I heard, but took it to mean there is a fall guy/girl that will take the heat. Would we be surprised?

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at January 29, 2016 03:50 PM (pVkEV)



I imagine that Huma will take the fall in exchange for a pardon.

I don't think it will save Hillary!'s election chances, however.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 29, 2016 11:00 AM (fC9RO)

137 All those months ago, when the Server stuff first came up.  I unlurked into the comments section to say there was no way Hillary was going down.

I mean, Classified Information lives on SIPRnet, it is not easy to transfer that over to regular emails...

I mean, Hillary has access to SIPRnet, there is no reason for her to need to put it on her own servers...

I mean, come on, you would have to intentionally take the data off Secure Servers and put them in an Unsecure Email system in order to have broken the law in a way that would get her in trouble.  There is no way she is that stupid!

Well, I can't believe I was wrong.  She was that stupid and evil to have done this.  I also can't believe that we are still talking about this instead of just throwing her ass in prison.

My disbelief at her depravity is exceeded only by my disappointment in our government... which was pretty remarkable to begin with.

I need a drink.

Posted by: Santos L. Halper at January 29, 2016 11:00 AM (tNESe)

138 "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is."

Posted by: california red at January 29, 2016 11:00 AM (sBAYv)

139 I love the guywho is talking now. He usually asks the State Dept minions great questions including follow up ones. And he's tenacious. I've watched many a frustrating and entertaining video with him.

Posted by: chique testing testing at January 29, 2016 11:00 AM (uz/Pv)

140 119 If she gets indickted I will be so shocked and happy I will get kneewalking drunk. Posted by: Eromero at January 29, 2016 03:58 PM (zLDYs) At least. May drag it out for a whole week.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 29, 2016 11:00 AM (zYV5P)

141 The Morning Joe crew are quite concerned for Hillary:

http://tinyurl.com/h5b8624

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 29, 2016 11:00 AM (FsuaD)

142 "BHO was feeding ISIS arms covertly" makes sense

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 11:00 AM (8Vn+p)

143 I saw the other day that TS/SAP info is only available to the President, Secretary of State, Director of the CIA, Director of DoD, Director of Homeland Security, and the Director of the Department of Energy and their immediate Assistants.
That's a handful of people who have the need to know. Who at State bridged the air gap so that the Hildebeest could send that information on her private unclassified and unsecured server?

Posted by: Old Blue at January 29, 2016 11:01 AM (9iR5/)

144 I've said before, I say again. This is not a Hillary scandal. This is an Obama Administration scandal. And, it starts edging up to the boundaries of treason. Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 03:58 PM (s5o+q) Exactly. Exactly. He can't decide whether to rid himself of this spiteful old workhorse he never wanted to have on as a lackey, just to watch her burn, or whether she'd take him down with her. They must be held accountable.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 11:01 AM (xuouz)

145 What if the people in charge of determining what counts as treason are themselves committing treason? What then? Because that's where we are. Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 03:56 PM (jBuUi) We have some non-violent options left--mainly: 1) This election; 2) An Article V Convention; 3) Massive, large-scale civil disobedience including (for instance) widespread refusal to pay income taxes (I do not advocate this, by the way, any Feds reading this comment . . . not at all, merely discussing possible public reactions to continuing lawlessness on the part of those trusted to enforce the law); But we're starting to run out of non-violent options, I'm afraid.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 11:01 AM (s5o+q)

146 57 We are stuck in a Groundhog Day like loop with the Clintons. Sexual Harassment then, visiting Epstein's fantasy island now, financial shenanigans such as cattle trading and Whitewater, Chinese and other foreign campaign contributions then, Clinton Foundation shenanigans 2001-2015 now. Black Hawk Down, and not striking at Bin Ladin then, allowing the Benghazi fiasco and Syrian crisis now. Just imagine what eight years with her as POTUS and Conspirator in Chief would be like. There would be flaming skulls at the AOS on a daily basis. Posted by: whig at January 29, 2016 03:50 PM (mlyQI) We will not survive eight years before someone starts a nuclear exchange. I just hope we make it the next eighteen months and elect a Republican, or if there is one, a sane Democrat.

Posted by: rd at January 29, 2016 11:01 AM (v0YLX)

147 >>Keep your eyes on the prize folks. "They" want you to think that this is all about the unauthorized server and the mishandling of classified documents But there were things on those documents that "they" do not want revealed. I suspect that what "they" are covering up is straight up treason.


Yep, the personal server was like money laundering or tax evasion, *a* crime, but not the primary crime; just a tool to cover her tracks on what illegal acts she was really committing.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 11:01 AM (NOIQH)

148 t she is a moral invalid.

A novel spelling for cretin.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 29, 2016 11:02 AM (DL2i+)

149 A good half of this country is a-okay with this bullshit, so long as it's their guy doing it. and it doesn't effect them directly, personally or else it would matter to them

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 11:02 AM (qCMvj)

150 I think the wheels are coming off for Democrats when they thought there were a few more miles on them.

People are pushing a lot harder, and this is coming to the fore a lot sooner than they thought.

Eventually they are going to be exposed as the treacherous, treasonous leches they are and nobody will be in place to prevent that outing.

That's what at stake in this election. It's why any Republican they can't control scares the shit out of them.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 29, 2016 11:02 AM (GGCsk)

151 95 Things were pretty ghastly under Harding, but the difference is back then there was at least an underlying Judeo-Christian heritage and sense of justice in the culture. Posted by: Christopher Taylor __________ And the stakes were lower--merely enhancing material wealth. With the vast expansion of the power and reach of the federal government since the Harding days, the stakes--if you are unconstrained by any sense of morality--are worth killing for. Those who have self-imposed limits on what constitutes acceptable behavior are fighting with a helluva handicap.

Posted by: Furious George at January 29, 2016 11:02 AM (3GAnN)

152 This would be sorted out quickly if Hillary had to answer the obvious follow-up questions about her standard denial: "I never sent our received any material marked classified" "How could you be Secretary of State for four years and never get any e-mails that were marked classified?" "Why do you keep saying 'marked classified' instead of just 'classified? Is that because they were classified but not marked classified?" "Is that because someone was taking off the 'classified' markings" before they got sent to your home brew server? "And who was doing that?"

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2016 11:02 AM (r1fLd)

153 106 I can't understand why Obama is protecting Hillary. Organizing For America. I can't wait for Trump's IRS to audit them daily.

Posted by: x at January 29, 2016 11:02 AM (nFwvY)

154 This is just cruel, like out of the Saw movie series. He's obviously got an explosive jock on or something. It's gonna blow if he cracks and accidentally tells the truth.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 11:02 AM (EjBTO)

155 LegalInsurrection article White house puts thumb on the scale of justice "Hillary doesn't seem to be headed to a indictment "

Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2016 11:02 AM (hk3Fb)

156 Can I assume Catherine Herridge was supported by aggressive follow-up questioning by her non-FOX peers?

LOL! Just kidding.  I'm sure they mostly sat there silently like good  court eunuchs, embarrassed for the confused lady speaking truth to power.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 29, 2016 11:03 AM (1BQGO)

157

110 yep   

 must be weird to be a young reporter and not be an in the bag water carrier. Knowing there are a lot of serious things you could be writing about, but they won't get published or put on air in 99% of the media outlets.  

On the other hand most of the young reporters are too busy trying to be part of the "in crowd" and trying to "please their masters"  rather than trying to advance on the merits of their work. 

 

 

Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 11:03 AM (JTwsP)

158 >>A good half of this country is a-okay with this bullshit, so long as it's their guy doing it. <<

And a growing part are standing by waiting for the black flag to be raised.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 29, 2016 11:03 AM (GGCsk)

159 154 This is just cruel, like out of the Saw movie series. He's obviously got an explosive jock on or something. It's gonna blow if he cracks and accidentally tells the truth. Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 04:02 PM (EjBTO) Haha

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 11:04 AM (xuouz)

160 Watch This === HOLD MY BEER

Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 11:04 AM (3ZtZW)

161 That's a handful of people who have the need to know. Who at State bridged the air gap so that the Hildebeest could send that information on her private unclassified and unsecured server? Posted by: Old Blue at January 29, 2016 04:01 PM (9iR5/) My guess, Cheryl Mills.

Posted by: Mainah at January 29, 2016 11:04 AM (659DL)

162 158 >>A good half of this country is a-okay with this bullshit, so long as it's their guy doing it. << And a growing part are standing by waiting for the black flag to be raised. Posted by: Marcus T at January 29, 2016 04:03 PM (GGCsk) *spits*

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 11:04 AM (xuouz)

163 We have some non-violent options left--mainly: 1) This election; 2) An Article V Convention; 3) Massive, large-scale civil disobedience including (for instance) widespread refusal to pay income taxes #2. How do you make them follow the results of an Art V if they are not following the Constitution now? #3. How do you get your job to go along and not withhold the tax money from your paycheck?

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 11:04 AM (SAhpk)

164 "I didn't do it!" "Nobody saw me do it!" "There's no way you can prove anything!"

Posted by: Hillary "Bart" Clinton at January 29, 2016 11:04 AM (t8P62)

165 Anyone from this shitbag administration could tell me the sky was blue, I'd have to go outside and look.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 29, 2016 11:04 AM (89T5c)

166 131 ABC now reporting that emails between Hillary and Obama have been found but will not be released. Was admin knowingly sending and replying to her personal account? Posted by: Dave J at January 29, 2016 03:59 PM (jbXDH) "knowingly" is irrelevant. The law, as written, makes it a felony to expose any classified information in any unclassified format. Anybody who sent an e-mail containing classified information to Hillary's server committed a felony by doing so.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 11:04 AM (s5o+q)

167 Secret, secret, It's not marked secret

Posted by: Mrs. Roboto at January 29, 2016 11:05 AM (2WoCi)

168 They insist on claiming the top secret status is a new thing, or at least, they're unwilling to concede otherwise. You know, like liars.

Posted by: Blacksheep at January 29, 2016 11:05 AM (8/DeP)

169 I can't understand why Obama is protecting Hillary. other then self-indictment, he wants his "legacy" to live on hillary will uphold obamacare, and turn to single payer a Cruz wouldn't

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 11:05 AM (qCMvj)

170 I have been interested in Harding...who died from either a heart attack, stroke, food poisoning from bad shrimp, or his wife.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 29, 2016 11:05 AM (7lqMl)

171 149 A good half of this country is a-okay with this bullshit, so long as it's their guy doing it. ****************** "Country?" Try "This Smart Military Blog."

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at January 29, 2016 11:05 AM (vgIRn)

172 #2. How do you make them follow the results of an Art V if they are not following the Constitution now? #3. How do you get your job to go along and not withhold the tax money from your paycheck? Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 04:04 PM (SAhpk) I did say we were running out of options, didn't I? The unstated implication of that statement is that the remaining options are sub-optimal at best. Apologies for the lack of clarity.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 11:06 AM (s5o+q)

173 Exactly. Exactly. He can't decide whether to rid himself of this spiteful old workhorse he never wanted to have on as a lackey, just to watch her burn, or whether she'd take him down with her.

Implies that he has no idea what the spiteful old hag has on him.

Posted by: Mortimer[/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 11:06 AM (R1a9g)

174 139 I love the guywho is talking now. He usually asks the State Dept minions great questions including follow up ones. And he's tenacious. I've watched many a frustrating and entertaining video with him. Posted by: chique testing testing at January 29, 2016 04:00 PM (uz/Pv) Is it Jake Tapper? He's a real journalist trying to get a straight answer out of the money-lenders, and that's meant as a compliment.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 11:06 AM (xuouz)

175 Yeah I am sure that Megyn Kelly will follow up for Catherine Herridge just as soon as she starts to learn multi-syllabic words.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 29, 2016 11:06 AM (GGCsk)

176 and you fuckos' used to laugh at me!  Me!!

Posted by: Pedo Island at January 29, 2016 11:06 AM (e7T6D)

177 Anybody who sent an e-mail containing classified information to Hillary's server committed a felony by doing so. Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 04:04 PM (s5o+q) BUT, was it a felony-felony?

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 29, 2016 11:06 AM (wYnyS)

178 Ace- the spokesman is John Kirby, formerly a spokesman for DOD.

Posted by: Mainah at January 29, 2016 11:07 AM (659DL)

179 #3. How do you get your job to go along and not withhold the tax money from your paycheck? Posted by: rickb223 That's easy -- just claim a bunch more dependents than you actually have. Then they give you most or all of your paycheck. Come April 15, you theoretically then fill in the correct information (and possibly pay a fine for not paying the correct amount of estimated taxes on Jan. 1). But in this tax-protest scenario, you never get to the second step.

Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 11:07 AM (jBuUi)

180 I posted a few days ago they were going to try this BS.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 11:07 AM (iQIUe)

181 the post is now filled in with the story that prompted this -- 22 of hillary's emails are considered "Too damaging" to national security to ever be released.

Posted by: ace at January 29, 2016 11:07 AM (dciA+)

182 Yeah, zombie, treason does seem to be prospering pretty well these days.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 29, 2016 11:07 AM (Z8DIA)

183 >>  17 see updates; i've digested the past six minutes of questioning. it's important.

And the more that's digested, the more apparent what's being digested is digestive system output.

Un-freaking-believable!

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at January 29, 2016 11:07 AM (ml1PM)

184 Anybody remember how the Teamsters killed the Detroit News story in the movie "Hoffa"? Sure are a lot of un-asked questions these days.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 29, 2016 11:07 AM (WQMJ4)

185 We need to get rid of withholding. It keeps people in the dark about the taxes they pay and it makes a tax revolt impossible.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 29, 2016 11:08 AM (T/5A0)

186 >> I love the guywho is talking now.

AP's Matthew Lee

Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 11:08 AM (NOIQH)

187 Is it Jake Tapper? >>>Is it Jake Tapper? Jake's not there. It's Matt Lee.

Posted by: m at January 29, 2016 11:08 AM (S/1cF)

188 LegalInsurrection article White house puts thumb on the scale of justice "Hillary doesn't seem to be headed to a indictment " Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2016 04:02 PM (hk3Fb) same pressure as on john roberts

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 11:08 AM (qCMvj)

189 dudes!  That was over TWO years ago!

Posted by: Tommy Vietor at January 29, 2016 11:08 AM (e7T6D)

190 "Too damaging" to whom? And to what degree?

Posted by: Marcus T at January 29, 2016 11:08 AM (GGCsk)

191 Implies that he has no idea what the spiteful old hag has on him. Posted by: Mortimer at January 29, 2016 04:06 PM (R1a9g) More like he's concerned with the optics of what he'd have to do to muzzle her. Also... Was that her only server? Are all his loose ends tied up? Do you want to bet that the Clinton crime family, of all possible adversaries, is completely under your thumb?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 11:08 AM (xuouz)

192 Eventually they are going to be exposed as the treacherous, treasonous leches they are and nobody will be in place to prevent that outing. True dat. If we are ever to know the true character (or lack thereof) of our fed gov., it would sicken the majority of the public. It's fucking despicable.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 29, 2016 11:09 AM (89T5c)

193 185 We need to get rid of withholding. It keeps people in the dark about the taxes they pay and it makes a tax revolt impossible. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 29, 2016 04:08 PM (T/5A0) Yup. Send out a monthly bill and make people write a check instead. Withholding is a small, tiny, but not insubstantial part of the problem.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 11:09 AM (s5o+q)

194 State of denial Department

Posted by: Billygoatpuke at January 29, 2016 11:09 AM (l5QMI)

195 oh, Ace made this post RED short of flaming skull

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 11:09 AM (qCMvj)

196 You know this is Bill's fault. He told them "Put it in her damn bathroom. Have you ever been in there after she has?" It'll be safe.

Posted by: ryukyu at January 29, 2016 11:09 AM (FuBZa)

197 >>The Obama administration confirmed for the first time Friday that Hillary Clinton's unsecured home server contained some of the U.S. government's most closely guarded secrets,


So....just hanging out on her server?

Who was she sending them **to**???

Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 11:09 AM (NOIQH)

198 Jake's not there. It's Matt Lee. Posted by: m __________ I really like his karate movies.

Posted by: Furious George at January 29, 2016 11:09 AM (3GAnN)

199 This is the kind of situation for which Catch-22 was coined. 

State: Hillary sent no classified e-mails, but we can't show them to you because they're too highly classified.

Me: jump up my ass, you lying ass-waft.

Posted by: pep at January 29, 2016 11:09 AM (LAe3v)

200 Ace has now upgraded the headline to be red and slanty! I'm disappointed this didn't merit a "flaming walker" gif.

Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 11:09 AM (jBuUi)

201 Jake Tapper grows a small set of nads every once in awhile...until someone shouts "sit down sissy boy", and they're gone.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 29, 2016 11:10 AM (GGCsk)

202 > This endless BULLSHIT has to stop. Everyone in government is complicit - either by acting out or simply enabling the lawlessness and corruption. Therefore, TRUMP. This. This is banana republic level shit.

Posted by: Rastus at January 29, 2016 11:10 AM (VjlMj)

203 This a medieval drawing of the antichrist. Cant figure out what is the think on their foreheads: https://goo.gl/lR0Mcr

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 11:10 AM (iQIUe)

204 formerly a spokesman for DOD


Another word destroyed by this administration.

"Marriage"
"Tax"
"alien"
"illegal"
"spokesman"

...

...

Posted by: Mortimer[/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 11:10 AM (R1a9g)

205 Sure are a lot of un-asked questions these days. Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 29, 2016 04:07 PM (WQMJ4) There are just so many local news stories that we simply cannot cover them all, even if they've been remarked as classified!

Posted by: MSM Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 29, 2016 11:10 AM (wYnyS)

206 22 of hillary's emails are considered "Too damaging" to national security to ever be released. There is some pretty shocking stuff in here.

Posted by: Xi Jinping at January 29, 2016 11:10 AM (2WoCi)

207 White house is leaning on injustice department, no sign of corruption there

Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2016 11:10 AM (hk3Fb)

208 wheels within wheels...   on the moon.  ( yes, the dark-side , what are you a fucko or something? )

Posted by: Yip und dos rich Corinthians at January 29, 2016 11:10 AM (e7T6D)

209 >> The unstated implication of that statement is that the remaining options are sub-optimal at best.

For the few non-engineers amongst the Horde, this translates as 'the remaining options are sh*t, sh*tt*er, and maybe even sh*tt*est'.

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at January 29, 2016 11:11 AM (ml1PM)

210 The presumptive Democrat nominee for President, 2016, ladies and gentlefappers.

Posted by: rebel flounder at January 29, 2016 11:11 AM (3dOE/)

211 Apologies for the lack of clarity. No apology necessary. I understood. I just want people to think about an Art V Convention and why they think it will be a magical panacea? If they are not following the Constitution now, unless some real teeth were put into the results of an Art V, (like summary executions for violating it), nothing will change.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 11:11 AM (SAhpk)

212 withholding so employers are required by which federal law to withhold presumably you signed a doc saying it was ok for your employer to withhold, so you're legally bound "just claim a bunch more dependents than you actually have. Then they give you most or all of your paycheck." can't the employer claim this is fraud

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 11:11 AM (8Vn+p)

213 195
oh, Ace made this post RED
short of flaming skull Posted by: artisanal 'ette



I believe I saw several flaming skulls warming up in the Green room.

Posted by: pep at January 29, 2016 11:11 AM (LAe3v)

214 And it won't make a damn bit of difference.

Posted by: Naes at January 29, 2016 11:11 AM (Ypc8j)

215 "14 It is abundantly clear that none of the regime's staff a) understand the concept of classification, b) the concept of National Security, or c) give a sh!t about this country." I'm going with c, and that includes GOP who should be wailing and gnashing teeth over this instead of politely standing by as if they are not interested in the outcome.

Posted by: Decaf at January 29, 2016 11:11 AM (482y1)

216 I guess the emails were not too damaging on grandma's secret server for the Russians or Chinese to read...or even basement boy in Silicon Valley, happily hacking into her site. Indict her. ASAP.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 29, 2016 11:12 AM (7lqMl)

217 Whatever is in them the Norks know it, the Russians know it, the Chinese know it, the Iranians know it, ISIS knows it, and the Saudis know it. So from whom is this information being hidden?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 29, 2016 11:12 AM (Nwg0u)

218 Anyone seen my date around here? Her name is 'Jackie'.

Posted by: Mark D. Classified at January 29, 2016 11:12 AM (WOyz5)

219 And this also means she handed over her server, with these docs inadequately erased, to some podunk company in CO for safe-keeping.

Wonder if her lawyer also had some of these docs on a freaking thumbdrive in his office?????

Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 11:12 AM (NOIQH)

220 Matt Lee has posted a bunch of clips from this session here: https://www.facebook.com/APDiploWriter

Posted by: m at January 29, 2016 11:12 AM (S/1cF)

221 It's all awfully... Juicy

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 11:12 AM (xuouz)

222 No apology necessary. I understood. I just want people to think about an Art V Convention and why they think it will be a magical panacea? If they are not following the Constitution now, unless some real teeth were put into the results of an Art V, (like summary executions for violating it), nothing will change. Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 04:11 PM (SAhpk) It's not a magical panacea. It's more of a desperate, last-gasp, Green Bay Packers-style hail Mary heave towards the end zone, hoping that your guys will grab the ball. Because the only option left if that doesn't work involves things blowing up and people getting jiggy with firearms. This is a result to be avidly avoided.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 11:13 AM (s5o+q)

223 clearly we need this experienced, competent woman in the White House

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 11:13 AM (8Vn+p)

224 Official: Some Clinton emails 'too damaging' to release What other news outlet will reveal this? *crickets*

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 11:13 AM (qCMvj)

225 Mind if we dance widtff yo dates?

Posted by: heh heh... you know at January 29, 2016 11:13 AM (e7T6D)

226 And to think there still another 30,000 emails that were deleted (and that the FBI has supposedly recovered) from her email server.

Posted by: GnuBreed [/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 11:13 AM (gyKtp)

227 203 This a medieval drawing of the antichrist. Cant figure out what is the think on their foreheads:


Look closely.   It's the DNC symbol. 

Posted by: pep at January 29, 2016 11:13 AM (LAe3v)

228 The White House pulls Sanders off the campaign trail for a 45 minute meeting...and 24 hours later acknowledges 22 top secret emails on Hillary's server. Start warming up the fat lady.

Posted by: OrsonSnow at January 29, 2016 11:13 AM (yK/3y)

229 I believe I saw several flaming skulls warming up in the Green room. Posted by: pep As long as Amy Schumer doesn't go on first.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 11:13 AM (SAhpk)

230 Herridge is an online International Woman of Mystery. I like that in a woman.
She is either a New Yorker, or Canadian, depending on your source. And is married, either to a Hayes or to a Miller. No account of a divorce.

"She comes from a military family," but, no details. What so ever. I heard once that her husband is a Marine officer, but there is no definite information on her at all, except that slit skirt thing, which is, perhaps, enough. Perhaps she has been carefully snipping and tailoring her public profile for personal security. If so, more power to her.

Posted by: [/i][/b]Stringer Davis at January 29, 2016 11:13 AM (xq1UY)

231 We're being Alinsky'ed to death. Too many commie traitors and not enough people to investigate scandals. And complicit opposition to all this shit. Fuck them all. Burn it to the ground.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 29, 2016 11:14 AM (89T5c)

232 Maybe Putin or China will release the 22 emails that the public must not see.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 29, 2016 11:14 AM (1BQGO)

233 This a medieval drawing of the antichrist. Can't figure out what is the think on their foreheads: I don't know either.

Posted by: Mark O. Beast at January 29, 2016 11:14 AM (WOyz5)

234 I really don't think anything will happen to Clinton over this. People who support her are insane, and I mean that literally. They would shoot their families if Hillary asked them to.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 29, 2016 11:14 AM (B8JRQ)

235 203 This a medieval drawing of the antichrist. Cant figure out what is the think on their foreheads: https://goo.gl/lR0Mcr Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 04:10 PM (iQIUe) They're manbuns. Oh you mean on their foreheads? bit.ly/1g6XvIW

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 11:14 AM (xuouz)

236 I'm going with c, and that includes GOP who should be wailing and gnashing teeth over this instead of politely standing by as if they are not interested in the outcome. Posted by: Decaf at January 29, 2016 04:11 PM (482y1) Actually, I should have used "and" instead of "or".

Posted by: MSM Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 29, 2016 11:14 AM (wYnyS)

237 I tried to watch some of that press conference. If I would have been there I would have ripped a table leg off, and demanded answers, just to end the vapid discussion.

Posted by: Picric at January 29, 2016 11:14 AM (QnQ+g)

238 Who appointed this bimbo to be Secretary of State?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 29, 2016 11:15 AM (z+4T3)

239 Official: Some Clinton emails 'too damaging' to release What other news outlet will reveal this? Bejing Daily, Hong Kong Tribune, Pravda,

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 11:15 AM (SAhpk)

240

173  Yeah, the Clintons have him over a barrel and he has her over a barrel. They are negotiating terms. Of course she's not reasonable.  The implied threats of indictment won't be enough to budge her, they will have to threaten the piggy bank CGI and or Chelsea's political future. 

Eventually a deal will be made behind the scenes.  It will include pardons all around, if necessary, and Whitewash for CGI. And Chelsea's political future will remain intact. 

On the surface, Hillary's thryorid problem will flare up and she will exit for health reasons.  And play the part of a psuedo Eleanor Roosevelt, in retirement.

 

We will get President Biden and VP Fauxcahontas. 

In the end, what difference, at this point, will it make?

Sad.

 

Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 11:15 AM (JTwsP)

241 Don't blame me fucko's.  It's a lie... all of it.

Posted by: SIr Edmund Hillary's ice-wormed corpse at January 29, 2016 11:15 AM (e7T6D)

242 Trying to find anyone in this administration who is not a traitor and/or liar like Diogenes going out with a lamp looking for an honest man. None are-men or women. It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out we were arming ISIS.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2016 11:16 AM (w4NZ8)

243 "further undercuts claims by the State Department and the Clinton campaign that none of the intelligence in the emails was classified when it hit Clinton's personal server."

On _Press The Meat_ the other day, Canquelles insisted that none of the message traffic via her insecure private server had been "marked classified".

What is now universally understood by those who have been paying attention is that this is true, in a carefully parsed, purely technical, lawyerly sense, but only because Her Nibs specifically ordered her underlings to strip off the "classified" headers before forwarding the messages.

Of course, the followup questioning of her on this key point was: zero.

NBC: Nuthin' But Coverups.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 11:16 AM (noWW6)

244 Working hypothesis: Hillary Clinton used the Clinton Crime Family Foundation to accept bribes from foreign and domestic rent-seekers who had interests before the State Department. She set up a private server not for "convenience" (how "convenient" is it to set up your own email server and domain?) but so she could ensure that the evidence of these dealings would be beyond the reach of auditors and investigators. She didn't give a rat's ass that this would pose a mortal danger to America's security -- it was just what was needed to keep money flowing into her coffer, AMERICA'S INTERESTS BE DAMNED. You would think this would be the kind of story that, say, an "investigative journalist" might be interested in looking into.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 29, 2016 11:16 AM (8ZskC)

245 236 I'm going with c, and that includes GOP who should be wailing and gnashing teeth over this instead of politely standing by as if they are not interested in the outcome. Posted by: Decaf at January 29, 2016 04:11 PM (482y1) Actually, I should have used "and" instead of "or". Posted by: MSM Hrothgar at January 29, 2016 04:14 PM (wYnyS) GOP should be going "fuck it all, indict Hillary or we WILL shut this mother down for the duration." I think I just pulled something, laughing so hard at the concept of McTurtle doing anything so . . . principled.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 11:16 AM (s5o+q)

246 "People who support her are insane, and I mean that literally. They would shoot their families if Hillary asked them to." And I have no doubt at all that it will come to that sooner than we think if the election goes the wrong way.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 29, 2016 11:16 AM (Z8DIA)

247 Let's go FBI. Roll these traitors up as a fait accompli and let DOJ go on record getting them out...at any point DOJ steps out of bounds, nail them too. if obstruction of justice comes from higher up. keep arresting cmon FBI...if you can shoot an old man with his hands up, you can surely find the courage to arrest a few politicians think about this away...what power do burrocrats have in jail?

Posted by: Grad School Fool at January 29, 2016 11:16 AM (A9KzJ)

248 We need to get rid of withholding. It keeps people in the dark about the taxes they pay and it makes a tax revolt impossible. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 29, 2016 04:08 PM (T/5A0) --------- In the dark? it is on their pay stubs, W-2, and tax return. It might not cast quite as bright a light as a tax bill in April they can't pay. But hardly keeps them in the dark unless they don't own a light.

Posted by: RioBravo at January 29, 2016 11:16 AM (NUqwG)

249 DEBATE TONIGHT Trump vs. Biden wouldn't that be a kick in the head? Megyn would be thrilled.

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 11:16 AM (8Vn+p)

250 All criticism of SHillery or reporting on this issue has been upgraded to classified. You guys have to stop talking about it. We are watching you very closely, much more closely than we we were watching and safeguarding the original classified information you are discussing.

Posted by: Top Men at January 29, 2016 11:17 AM (cCxiu)

251 the Norks know it, the Russians know it, the Chinese know it, the Iranians know it, ISIS knows it, and the Saudis know it. - Hey, I think I composed a Cole Porter song!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 29, 2016 11:17 AM (Nwg0u)

252 "Whatever is in them the Norks know it, the Russians know it, the Chinese know it, the Iranians know it, ISIS knows it, and the Saudis know it. So from whom is this information being hidden?" Wasn't it the Fast and Furious thing where recently a Federal Judge used that same line of reasoning to tell the Administration that they could not use Executive Privilege to not answer questions? Pretty much "You told the whole damn world already, no way to claim you need to hide it"

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2016 11:17 AM (ptqRm)

253 This "too damaging to release" situation is the exact same Catch-22 vortex I encountered when covering the Folsom Street Fair and Up Your Alley Fair: At both events, there were underage children watching public sex acts up close (either at the fair unchaperoned or brought by their amoral pervert-parents). In the first version of my report I posted online, I included photos documenting this fact, with kids' faces blurred out or cropped as the creeps "performed" for the kids. The gay mafia instantly swung into action and reported ME to the cops for posting "child porn" on the Web, even though what I was doing was exposing THEIR child abuse. So within hours I took down the photos documenting child sexual abuse, and removed all reference to it from the report, lest the criminals themselves use it as ammunition against me. In the same way, Hillary's mails are SO taboo that the people exposing her crimes are not even allowed to see them! So she like the child abusers, are protected from prosecution because their crimes are simply too heinous to even document.

Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 11:17 AM (jBuUi)

254 It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out we were arming ISIS. Halfway around the world? Why not? We were arming narco terrorists in our own backyard.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 11:17 AM (SAhpk)

255 Focus!  We must focus!

Posted by: Earnest guy who stares at you at January 29, 2016 11:17 AM (e7T6D)

256 Official: Some Clinton emails 'too damaging' to release You terrin' me! I sar dem! Dare nood sefries Hirrary! sent to Huma! Prease send eye breach, stat!

Posted by: Hak Yu Tu, People's Liberation Cyber Forces at January 29, 2016 11:17 AM (GUBah)

257    

Posted by: GOP Congress at January 29, 2016 11:17 AM (R1a9g)

258 It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out we were arming ISIS. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 29, 2016 04:16 PM (w4NZ This is demonstrably true, and it's not even news.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 11:18 AM (xuouz)

259 Well is it true or not that Bill had said he hated Obama more than anyone else in the world?

Posted by: washrivergal at January 29, 2016 11:18 AM (CFc5L)

260 You would think instead of the Republican "infighting" the media would go after the wheels slowly coming off their preferred Democratic nominee.

There will simply be a point at which the Overton Window closes on the idea this is a political "nothing-burger". If the FBI suggests criminal action was involved and heavy evidence and precedent demands an indictment- how do you escape what comes next?

I don't see how she survives that unscathed, especially in the minds of voters. Unless there is some type of voter fraud on a wide scale, she's done in her presidential aspirations. Then by the way, so are Democrats.

There's a lot a stake here. So I'm guessing every possibility is on the table . Every.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 29, 2016 11:18 AM (GGCsk)

261 re:258 brah vo

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 11:18 AM (xuouz)

262 Doesn't matter. She will not pay for any of her wrongdoing. The only thing that'll happen is she may develop some sudden illness which will prevent her from serving as POTUS. And I'm not even sure of that.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at January 29, 2016 11:18 AM (WlQGZ)

263

235 203 This a medieval drawing of the antichrist. Cant figure out what is the think on their foreheads:
https://goo.gl/lR0Mcr
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 04:10 PM (iQIUe)

Prayer bumps obviously.

Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 11:18 AM (JTwsP)

264 >>>>>The White House pulls Sanders off the campaign trail for a 45 minute meeting...and 24 hours later acknowledges 22 top secret emails on Hillary's server. Start warming up the fat lady.
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.Ayup. Plus you forgot to add they blamed everything on Bush after the meeting. 

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 29, 2016 11:18 AM (iONHu)

265 Also, under libtard rules I can't be racist for using that sock, since I'm Asian.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2016 11:19 AM (GUBah)

266 hell fen, Obama sold arms to the Sinaloa cartel, why not ISIS? besides, it was so hard to tell they were ISIS, he doesn't speak Arabic "well," and it was like totally dark outside

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 11:19 AM (8Vn+p)

267 You couldn't possibly need any more proof of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.

Can you chip in $3 to help discredit it?

Posted by: Hillary! at January 29, 2016 11:19 AM (ml1PM)

268 Drip....drip....drip. Burn the witch. As someone who had a TS clearance in the military starting at E-4, you damn well know the difference and there would be hell to pay if you f'ed it up.

Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 11:19 AM (oiNtH)

269 So no indictment then? Is that what ace is saying?

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 29, 2016 11:19 AM (kqD9B)

270 Indict her & Huma, now. Late on Friday so no one will notice.

Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2016 11:20 AM (sj3Ax)

271 We were are arming narco terrorists our neighbors in our own backyard awesome neighborhood. Posted by: rickb223

Yep... from last thread.

Posted by: Yip und dos Rich Corinthians at January 29, 2016 11:20 AM (e7T6D)

272 It will be interesting to see her campaign contributions dry up. The Clintons won't touch any of their own ill gotten gains.

Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 11:20 AM (oiNtH)

273 The "process" took a recess.

Posted by: OK, Thanks, sock now off! at January 29, 2016 11:20 AM (ucB75)

274 Best hope for this taking down Hillary is from Bernie cultists. They hate her almost as much as they hate Republicans. They mostly don't give a damn about national security but will pretend to if it helps kill the witch.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 29, 2016 11:20 AM (1BQGO)

275 266 the first rule of libtard rules is that the rules are...flexible the second rule of libtard rules is to crush the unbeliever

Posted by: Grad School Fool at January 29, 2016 11:20 AM (A9KzJ)

276 261 You would think instead of the Republican "infighting" the media would go after the wheels slowly coming off their preferred Democratic nominee. There will simply be a point at which the Overton Window closes on the idea this is a political "nothing-burger". If the FBI suggests criminal action was involved and heavy evidence and precedent demands an indictment- how do you escape what comes next? I don't see how she survives that unscathed, especially in the minds of voters. Unless there is some type of voter fraud on a wide scale, she's done in her presidential aspirations. Then by the way, so are Democrats. There's a lot a stake here. So I'm guessing every possibility is on the table . Every. Posted by: Marcus T at January 29, 2016 04:18 PM (GGCsk) But the media, all of it save for a few individuals, are totally, ideologically committed Democrat shills. Their jobs aren't to report the news. Their jobs are to spin things to make Democrats look good and Republicans look bad. I thought everybody knew this.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 11:20 AM (s5o+q)

277 spank, hillary and barry need more time to negotiate this

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 11:21 AM (8Vn+p)

278 Burn the witch. As someone who had a TS clearance in the military starting at E-4, you damn well know the difference and there would be hell to pay if you f'ed it up. Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 04:19 PM (oiNtH) Exactly.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 11:21 AM (DUoqb)

279 Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 04:17 PM (jBuUi) Zombie that is tough to read. We should probably all spend a little more time beseeching the blessings of almighty God, considering the state we're in.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 11:21 AM (xuouz)

280 Catherine Herridge is my heroine o' the day.

Posted by: eleven at January 29, 2016 11:21 AM (qUNWi)

281 about an Art V Convention and why they think it will be a magical panacea?

Because the Republicans might at least try to comply with any additions.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 29, 2016 11:21 AM (DL2i+)

282 You know this is Bill's fault. He told them "Put it in her damn bathroom. Have you ever been in there after she has?" It'll be safe. === "Clinton's don't take a shit without a plan, son"

Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 11:21 AM (3ZtZW)

283 DEBATE TONIGHT Trump vs. Biden wouldn't that be a kick in the head? Megyn would be thrilled. Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 04:16 PM (8Vn+p) *Joe babbles inanely, then grins showing all 32 teeth* The Donald grips the lectern, looks at Joe and asks "Did you just have a stroke while she asked that question? I've had pantsless bums rousted from my properties who made more sense than you just did."

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 11:22 AM (hLRSq)

284 Special Prosecutor?

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2016 11:22 AM (21pho)

285 Trump better really be in this thing because his fucking life is on the line if he means what's he's saying.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 11:22 AM (xuouz)

286 You would think this would be the kind of story that, say, an "investigative journalist" might be interested in looking into. Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 29, 2016 04:16 PM (8ZskC) Why one might even think that an "opposition" party would be actively pursuing and investigating such criminal treasonous activities.

Posted by: MSM Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 29, 2016 11:23 AM (wYnyS)

287 "... but only because Her Nibs specifically ordered her underlings to strip off the 'classified' headers before forwarding the messages."

And continuing that thought, both the act of stripping the classification headers, and the issuance of the order to do so, are both heavy-duty industrial-grade federal felonies.

Again, not a word of which from the fine folks at NBC in their interview of her.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 11:23 AM (noWW6)

288 Jesus, he just stressed it wasn't "marked" classified. Again. This is the Clintonian parsing defense. Hillary said nothing was ever marked classified and this wasn't marked so see she did nothing wrong. Meanwhile, if it were you or I, our families would be getting the bill for the bullet right about now and I'm only about 1% joking.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 29, 2016 11:23 AM (mf5HN)

289 281 Catherine Herridge is my heroine o' the day. Posted by: eleven at January 29, 2016 04:21 PM (qUNWi) I think we'll sooner see a federal indictment of Catherine Herridge than we will of Hilldog.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 11:23 AM (s5o+q)

290 As usual, the MSM is conveniently forgetting to mention what informed people know: - the emails were classified as top secret when they were sent. - they do not have to be explicitly marked "top secret" to BE top secret. - it doesn't matter what some State Department PR flunky says about intelligence communities "upgrading" the classifications. (see first point above) Read this short article at MSNBC, and try to tell me with a straight face, they aren't slanting this as best they can for Hillary's benefit: http://tinyurl.com/jazhakn

Posted by: Flubnut at January 29, 2016 11:23 AM (nJfTV)

291 >> On _Press The Meat_ the other day, ...

May I suggest you check out Meet the Maet on an ONT?

(Pro Tip: When Maet suggests NOT perusing a link, don't.)

Posted by: Hillary! at January 29, 2016 11:23 AM (ml1PM)

292 NSA needs to pull State's keys. Expire them all, let them use reading rooms.

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2016 11:24 AM (21pho)

293 Two ducks walking down the shoreline of the pond when one of them sees a dildo lying in the mud...

Posted by: Funny visuals that come to mind at January 29, 2016 11:24 AM (e7T6D)

294 There will be no indictment. They might as well shut down the entire investigation. The Justice Dept. is now just another political tool uses for protecting your own and going after your enemies. We have no government, only a criminal enterprise.

Posted by: Chris Vaughn at January 29, 2016 11:25 AM (2JrRo)

295 OK, maybe some of these documents are also being withheld because they could be linked to a bad result, such as, say, details on the SEAL Team 6 dudes, a large group of them being killed in that helicopter shooting, in addition to Benghazi. There have been other setbacks in the ME under Obama, and it would be interesting if those could be tied back to Hillary's (and her minions') handling of top secret operations.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 11:25 AM (NOIQH)

296 Indict her & Huma, now. Late on Friday so no one will notice. Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2016 04:20 PM (sj3Ax) You are a master strategist!

Posted by: Hrothgar [/i][/u][/b][/s] at January 29, 2016 11:25 AM (wYnyS)

297 Paul Ryan has the perfect opportunity on Tuesday when he meets with Obama to insist on an indictment or no deals until it's done. Yeah, I know, not in this universe.

Posted by: Decaf at January 29, 2016 11:25 AM (482y1)

298 "Why one might even think that an 'opposition' party would be actively pursuing and investigating such criminal treasonous activities."

Your strange words confuse and frighten us!

Posted by: The Permanent Bipartisan Fusion Party at January 29, 2016 11:25 AM (noWW6)

299 spokesperson = John Kirby

Posted by: m at January 29, 2016 11:26 AM (S/1cF)

300 EVERYONE who has ever been in the Military and had an Admin job knows the bullshit State, the White House, and clinton is shoveling stinks to high hell

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 11:26 AM (DUoqb)

301 What I want to know, but haven't heard, is Bill Clinton's part in all this.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 29, 2016 11:26 AM (LXJ1e)

302 Wipe? Like with a rag, you mean?

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at January 29, 2016 11:27 AM (8ZskC)

303 She is now running for president simply to avoid prosecution.

Posted by: iforgot at January 29, 2016 11:27 AM (pC96u)

304 http://tinyurl.com/j9flvmw I've been reading this column on Hillary's emails.

Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2016 11:27 AM (sj3Ax)

305 The White House pulls Sanders off the campaign trail for a 45 minute meeting... ------------- My guess is that Sanders was being told to continue to make light of the e-mail business, warned not to make it an issue. Be a good comrade....for the sake of the Movement. We'll see. In any case, if he doesn't hit the b*tch with this, you can bet he's not a serious candidate.... or has been warned.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 29, 2016 11:27 AM (T/5A0)

306 The Donald grips the lectern, looks at Joe and asks "Did you just have a stroke while she asked that question? I've had pantsless bums rousted from my properties who made more sense than you just did." Posted by: *Mikey NTH - I laughed out loud I did

Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 11:27 AM (oiNtH)

307 SIPRnet, "the core of our warfighting command and control capability" http://fas.org/irp/program/disseminate/siprnet.htm so if HRC instructed someone to grab stuff from SIPRnet and stick it on her insecure server, would those emails still have SIPRnet headers

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 11:27 AM (8Vn+p)

308 "OK, maybe some of these documents are also being withheld because they could be linked to a bad result, such as, say, details on the SEAL Team 6 dudes, a large group of them being killed in that helicopter shooting, in addition to Benghazi."

I sourly suspect that some of it may also pertain to the early stages of the Iran nuclear deal, which later came to poisonous fruition under Clinton's successor. They had that sucker in the works from early on.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 11:27 AM (noWW6)

309 wow, just fascinating reading Ace and Charles Cooke go back and forth on open borders on twitter. Cooke is amazingly adept at playing the offended Brit intellectual. "So you mean to tell me, good chap, pip pip, that Ruubio, a man of impecible manners, is 'open.borders'? preposterous!"

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 11:27 AM (EjBTO)

310 Maybe Herridge should preface her question with "let me state this slowly so you can comprehend"- isn't a document/information "secrecy level" up to the issuer and effective the moment that document/information is issued"?

Posted by: Marcus T at January 29, 2016 11:27 AM (GGCsk)

311 Boy Hillary is such a badass she sets up her own homegrown email server AND she decides what documents are classified and which aren't. I admire her bravery

Posted by: MSM at January 29, 2016 11:28 AM (hD7K9)

312 22 members of SEAL Team 6 executed.  I always thought Biden spilled the beans, now.. notsamuch.  FRY HER ASS

Posted by: SiliconeSister at January 29, 2016 11:28 AM (cmyfg)

313 Hillary spokesman claims "case of overclassification".


So her argument is that the stuff that she concealed on her personal server was just "too darn classified".

Yes , you should run with that.

Posted by: Mortimer[/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 11:28 AM (R1a9g)

314

I don't understand your strange constitution and your "democracy" and "transparency"

But I do know tribal politics and so when a Clinton needs a cover-up, they get a cover-up.

Posted by: caveman speaker of the house at January 29, 2016 11:28 AM (JTwsP)

315 The thing is, I'm absolutely sure every single top level agency head and secretary in the Obama administration has exactly the same setup and private server. Maybe even set up more intelligently. Remember the first thing she said? "Everybody does it." Its about avoiding freedom of information and inspector general access, being able to do things without being accountable.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 11:29 AM (39g3+)

316 google " dude that was 2 years ao"   heh.... makes me laugh

Posted by: Yip und dos Rich Corinthians at January 29, 2016 11:29 AM (e7T6D)

317 What I want to know, but haven't heard, is Bill Clinton's part in all this. Posted by: Make America Great Again My guess is that he was flying around the world, making deals for their crime syndicate, relaying that info back to the ole ball and chain, and then snatching as much snatch as he could.

Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 11:29 AM (oiNtH)

318 about an Art V Convention and why they think it will be a magical panacea? Because the Republicans might at least try to comply with any additions. Why? What's forcing them to?

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 11:29 AM (SAhpk)

319 I am not joking when I say the following ... ... I expect Hillary! to have a tragic accident of some sort before this is all over.

Posted by: Irony at January 29, 2016 11:30 AM (BHaRb)

320 Emails how do they work?

Posted by: Insane Clinton Posse at January 29, 2016 11:30 AM (X7E8f)

321 Shit shovelers shoveling shit.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 11:31 AM (xWW96)

322 To think that the Dems came to power in Congress in 2007 on page diddling and a wide stance.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 29, 2016 11:31 AM (LXJ1e)

323 Cheryl Mills should also be indicted for losing BB.

Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2016 11:31 AM (sj3Ax)

324 I'm absolutely sure every single top level agency head and secretary in the Obama administration has exactly the same setup and private server. Maybe even set up more intelligently. Remember the first thing she said? "Everybody does it."

THIS


Institutional Level Criminal Enterprise.


Posted by: Mortimer[/i] [/b] at January 29, 2016 11:31 AM (R1a9g)

325 Pretty good Dawkins vid. https://youtu.be/ecJUqhm2g08

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 11:32 AM (xWW96)

326 >>Hillary spokesman claims "case of overclassification".<<

Stated the lawyer of every felon every indicted for mishandling classified documents.

There is plenty of evidence from pass cases to suggest that well-worn excuse won't work. It's up to the issuer and very clear in the agreements/NDA you sign.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 29, 2016 11:32 AM (GGCsk)

327 ago

Posted by: Yip und dos Rich Corinthians at January 29, 2016 11:32 AM (e7T6D)

328 Institutional Level Criminal Enterprise. Posted by: Mortimer at January 29, 2016 04:31 PM (R1a9g) You rang?

Posted by: RICO Act at January 29, 2016 11:32 AM (DUoqb)

329 Any chance the FBI can trace coincidental top secret intelligence acquisition/distribution (through her private server) with donations to the Clinton Foundation? If so, that would be espionage-worthy even to a capital offense.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 29, 2016 11:32 AM (1CroS)

330 An indictment would garner liberal sympathy for Hilz, she could dust off her "right wing conspiracy" bumper stickers. Too many LIV's have no clue what happened. Even if explained to them. My MIL for example, has never, ever, used a computer. She would be a fine Hillary voter. But she wiped it clean! What are emails? Then there is the Beyonce crowd, who are wut about it. Or the Durham crowd who note no gravel was involved. Or the Wimmen's Libbers who note she is supposed to be a woman, and all they need to know. National security? Bah. Equal pay more important. Then the LGBT crowd, who want bathrooms. The boobs for bombs crowd who want feather boas. I think this is the total of voters for Hilz.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 29, 2016 11:32 AM (7lqMl)

331 Cooke is amazingly adept at playing the offended Brit intellectual. "So you mean to tell me, good chap, pip pip, that Ruubio, a man of impecible manners, is 'open.borders'? preposterous!" Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 04:27 PM (EjBTO) Git 'im ace

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 11:32 AM (xuouz)

332 316 The thing is, I'm absolutely sure every single top level agency head and secretary in the Obama administration has exactly the same setup and private server. Maybe even set up more intelligently. Remember the first thing she said? "Everybody does it." Its about avoiding freedom of information and inspector general access, being able to do things without being accountable. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 04:29 PM (39g3+) ---------------- We know the EPA head had her private email account to do business on. I'm sure your right.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 29, 2016 11:33 AM (LXJ1e)

333 SO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 11:33 AM (DUoqb)

334 Come on, everybody does it. *hic*

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at January 29, 2016 11:34 AM (8ZskC)

335 The thing is, I'm absolutely sure every single top level agency head and secretary in the Obama administration has exactly the same setup and private server. Maybe even set up more intelligently. Remember the first thing she said? "Everybody does it." Its about avoiding freedom of information and inspector general access, being able to do things without being accountable. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 04:29 PM (39g3+) See my post at #47. That information comes from an IT wonk I know at a three letter agency (not FBI).

Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2016 11:34 AM (GUBah)

336 I am so ashamed I was ever a part of this organization. Posted by: Moki at January 29, 2016 03:43 PM (7q2ch) Take heart Moki. You still have big boobs and blond hair

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 11:34 AM (xWW96)

337 >>What I want to know, but haven't heard, is Bill Clinton's part in all this.

Well, if suspicions that she was selling access/influence as SoS through the foundation are true, Bill was the guy meeting with the donors and negotiating the deals, picking up the check.

There were some released emails in which Bill's assistant was requesting a Hillary aide (think it was Mills?) forward some State dept. document to assist him with prepping for a meeting/speech. So Bill would also nbe the delivery guy should Hillary have been selling access to State secrets in addition to influence.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 11:34 AM (NOIQH)

338

Well, I'm pretty sure she'll never see a jail cell.  I suppose that opens the possibility of an "accident" real or staged. However its more likely a cover up will be staged when the deal is finally done.

 

Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 11:34 AM (JTwsP)

339 331 An indictment would garner liberal sympathy for Hilz, she could dust off her "right wing conspiracy" bumper stickers. Too many LIV's have no clue what happened. Even if explained to them. My MIL for example, has never, ever, used a computer. She would be a fine Hillary voter. But she wiped it clean! What are emails? Then there is the Beyonce crowd, who are wut about it. Or the Durham crowd who note no gravel was involved. Or the Wimmen's Libbers who note she is supposed to be a woman, and all they need to know. National security? Bah. Equal pay more important. Then the LGBT crowd, who want bathrooms. The boobs for bombs crowd who want feather boas. I think this is the total of voters for Hilz. Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 29, 2016 04:32 PM (7lqMl) So . . . just write off the rule of law as a horribly inconvenient idea? Not that Let It Burn (now with added Trump brand accelerant) isn't an increasingly attractive option.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 11:34 AM (s5o+q)

340 @320...or another done fall out concussion, which makes her want to stay home in muu-muu and bake cookies for grandspawn.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 29, 2016 11:34 AM (7lqMl)

341 We'll have to doctor launder scrub redact some of the information before it can be released.

Posted by: Most Transparent Administration Ever at January 29, 2016 11:35 AM (RrDm2)

342 "even to a capital offense" if only she could be tried in Texas I wonder whether Americans would support capital punishment for high treason the Left has succeeded in making "high treason" sound antique, like something you'd hear in a Western

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 11:35 AM (8Vn+p)

343 lest the criminals themselves use it as ammunition against me.
***
Reminiscent of when an investigative group found that PP was in the illegal business of selling human body parts and now the government is charging the investigators with...violating the law around selling human body parts.

The law is merely a weapon to the left, not more and not less.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2016 11:36 AM (X7E8f)

344 The only article V amendment worth having is an orderly procedure for states to exit the union.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 29, 2016 11:36 AM (LXJ1e)

345 < I'm absolutely sure every single top level agency head and secretary in the Obama administration has exactly the same setup and private server.> They all have off the record email, sure. Are their sensitive things on those that might be CLASSIFIED by provenance, that is "the Secretary said if" so if is CLASSIFIED, sure. Did anyone else have a cult like staff they could even ask to strip headers off of SCI/SAP, no.

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2016 11:36 AM (21pho)

346 Well, I'm pretty sure she'll never see a jail cell. === Like 17th century noble children, she has a Whipping "Boy" in Huma.

Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 11:36 AM (3ZtZW)

347 There has never been this kind of political corruption in our government. Ever.

Things were pretty ghastly under Harding, but the difference is back then there was at least an underlying Judeo-Christian heritage and sense of justice in the culture.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 03:55 PM (39g3+)


And no income tax or welfare state so there was a limit to the damage they could do.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 11:36 AM (OrI3J)

348 about an Art V Convention and why they think it will be a magical panacea? Its no magic bullet, but its basically the last constitutional option before open rebellion. See my post at #47. That information comes from an IT wonk I know at a three letter agency (not FBI). I've always liked the Tennessee Valley Authority. What I wonder is how far back this goes? Did it start with the Obama administration? That seems likely, since the electronic age was a bit slow being picked up at the federal level. Not that the Bush guys were too holy to do it but too lacking in tech savvy. But they might have.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 11:36 AM (39g3+)

349 if only she could be tried in Texas --------------------- Except, in Austin she would get a medal.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 29, 2016 11:36 AM (RrDm2)

350 Take heart Moki. You still have big boobs and blond hair Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 04:34 PM (xWW96) Bullshit. Prove it.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 11:37 AM (xuouz)

351 "The law is merely a weapon to the left, not more and not less." For my friends, everything. For the rest? The Law. -- Joseph Stalin

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 11:37 AM (8Vn+p)

352 You would think this would be the kind of story that, say, an "investigative journalist" might be interested in looking into.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 29, 2016 04:16 PM (8ZskC)

*****

What I can't figure out is all of the career making stories that have been covered up by the media in the past 8 years.  How many Woodward and Bernstein moments have they refused to take part in.

We know Matt Drudge's name for one reason...He was the only on willing to run with the Monica Lewinski story.  The MSM knew before Drudge but they suppressed it.  After Drudge scooped them they had to cover it.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 29, 2016 11:37 AM (z+4T3)

353 "We will not survive eight years before someone starts a nuclear exchange. I just hope we make it the next eighteen months and elect a Republican, or if there is one, a sane Democrat." There are no sane Democrats otherwise they wouldn't be Democrats.

Posted by: Decaf at January 29, 2016 11:38 AM (482y1)

354 345 The only article V amendment worth having is an orderly procedure for states to exit the union. Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 29, 2016 04:36 PM (LXJ1e) One possible result of an Article V convention is the dissolution of the Union. Hey, "runaway conventions" can go any number of different ways.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 11:38 AM (s5o+q)

355 Another difference between now and the Harding days is that the people benefiting from the corruption were few and vastly wealthy megacrats. These days its about 40% of the voting population. Are they going to vote against that gravy train?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 11:38 AM (39g3+)

356 Austin has some first-class pickers. I have a soft spot for Austin. Damned their douchebag hipsters, though.

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 11:39 AM (8Vn+p)

357 348 There has never been this kind of political corruption in our government. Ever. Things were pretty ghastly under Harding, but the difference is back then there was at least an underlying Judeo-Christian heritage and sense of justice in the culture. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 03:55 PM (39g3+) And no income tax or welfare state so there was a limit to the damage they could do. Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 04:36 PM (OrI3J) No, this is epically, historically corrupt, this Democrat party, this Administration, and its Republican co-dependents.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 11:39 AM (s5o+q)

358 about an Art V Convention and why they think it will be a magical panacea? Its no magic bullet, but its basically the last constitutional option before open rebellion. CT, honest question. What forces them to follow the results of an Art V Convention, that isn't there forcing them to follow the Constitution?

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 11:39 AM (SAhpk)

359

As fiasco's go, this is epic.  Not Shakespearian but Biblical. 

it is amazing the watts spent talking about trump's vulgarity, but you couldn't lite a Christmas tree with the watts spent talking about this in the demo debate.

You are correct, the Bernie meeting with Obama was him being read into the fact that this is off limits because it involves Obama.

Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 11:39 AM (JTwsP)

360 I don't give a damn about Hillary's emails! You people just STFU. We real Americans do care about this stuff.

Posted by: Bernie at January 29, 2016 11:40 AM (RrDm2)

361 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 04:36 PM (39g3+) I don't know how far back it goes; I know the guy(s) that that info comes from have been at their respective agencies for under five years, as they are more or less fresh out of the military. They are incensed by what is going on, but feel their hands are tied because they have zero confidence in being protected by whistle blower laws.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2016 11:40 AM (GUBah)

362 I thought the other day no one has committed more federal laws as a government official

Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2016 11:40 AM (hk3Fb)

363 Anyway Probably all of the shit that appeared on RT News talking about the US creating, not just arming, ISIS and all the other shit we've looked at and said "Yup, they're just Russian propaganda hacks" ALL off that is actually TRUE and the source was Hillary's server. Hell, the command line was probly C:/DrinkMe@LookingGlass that's how far down the rabbit hole it was...

Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 11:40 AM (3ZtZW)

364 And no income tax or welfare state so there was a limit to the damage they could do.
***
Yeah, that is the key thing here.

People are less moral then they were say 100 years ago, but the difference isn't that significant.

The real difference is that 100 years ago the government only had access to a fraction of the nation's wealth...now it has access to about 40% of it directly, and 100+% indirectly.

It is easier to corrupt a man, or woman, when you give them the opportunity to essentially steal as much money as they want.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2016 11:41 AM (X7E8f)

365 I guess if she had a conscious, Shrillary would have keeled over from a heart attack by now with the stress of knowing she's a lying sack of doo-doo. She should be ashamed. Ashamed... how come it seems this whole new generation doesn't seem to know how to be ashamed of themselves?

Posted by: gapoz at January 29, 2016 11:41 AM (thyJJ)

366 do care about this stuff. ------------ ' don't' , dammit. sock splot

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 29, 2016 11:41 AM (RrDm2)

367 They are incensed by what is going on, but feel their hands are tied because they have zero confidence in being protected by whistle blower laws. Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2016 04:40 PM (GUBah) Yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 11:41 AM (DUoqb)

368 Feh: "the Left has succeeded in making 'high treason' sound antique, like something you'd hear in a Western" True, and it's a charge that is surely underutilized as the historical record shows. It's essentially impossible to get on the convicted spy/treason list; and yet, here we are with the Clintons.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 29, 2016 11:41 AM (1CroS)

369 317 google " dude that was 2 years ao" heh.... makes me laugh Posted by: Yip und dos Rich Corinthians at January 29, 2016 04:29 PM (e7T6D) Yup, his previous job was driving the bus. Bizarre times we live in.

Posted by: ryukyu at January 29, 2016 11:41 AM (FuBZa)

370 Because the Republicans might at least try to comply with any additions.



Why? What's forcing them to?


Note: might, try and Because Republicans (either as good guys or non-jackass immunified).

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 29, 2016 11:42 AM (DL2i+)

371 I put Cavuto on & Judge Napolitano thinks FBI director may quit if she isn't indicted. I wish I'd put him on at 4.

Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2016 11:42 AM (sj3Ax)

372 Holy Crap! I have a TSI/SCI clearance and had never even heard of SAP until recently...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at January 29, 2016 11:42 AM (Bi1Tt)

373 OT: I'm fascinated by stuff like this, but it may not be everybody's cup of tea.

http://tinyurl.com/zu5f4sh

Posted by: pep at January 29, 2016 11:42 AM (LAe3v)

374 CT, honest question. What forces them to follow the results of an Art V Convention, that isn't there forcing them to follow the Constitution? Nothing. There is no leverage, but its the last legal step we can take. I'm not a big article V guy because I know exactly what you're saying. Its like all the rest of the "solutions" people offer like eliminating the 17th amendment etc: that only works if people are obeying the constitution to begin with. Legal, reasonable solutions only work with law abiding, reasonable people. Gandhi could only succeed in India because he was dealing with the British.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 11:42 AM (39g3+)

375 "My guess is that Sanders was being told to continue to make light of the e-mail business, warned not to make it an issue. Be a good comrade....for the sake of the Movement. " He is not stupid and wants to die of extreme old age, in his bed.

Posted by: Decaf at January 29, 2016 11:43 AM (482y1)

376 The only way those e-mails were safe is if every time somebody logged on the server the home page was a .jpg of Hillary! in yoga pants.

Posted by: wth at January 29, 2016 11:43 AM (HgMAr)

377 >>What I can't figure out is all of the career making stories that have been covered up by the media in the past 8 years. How many Woodward and Bernstein moments have they refused to take part in.


Obama's WH press office plays all sorts of games w/press access. When Woodward countered the narrative that the GOP caused the sequester --- his own published book had detailed how the sequester was Obama's idea --- he was publicly attacked by the rest of the press as "crazy", etc. Woodward said he received a call from the WH press office in which he was screamed at for something like 45 minutes over it. Other reporters had let slip that they, too, will get nasty calls if they report something Obama doesn't like, and they are threatened with losing access to WH people (their livelihood) for negative press.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 11:43 AM (NOIQH)

378 Ace, I was going to listen & video is now unavailable. Coincidence? I don't think so.

Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2016 11:43 AM (sj3Ax)

379 372 I put Cavuto on & Judge Napolitano thinks FBI director may quit if she isn't indicted. I wish I'd put him on at 4. Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2016 04:42 PM (sj3Ax) What the FBI director doesn't understand is that's exactly what Obama wants him to do. That will allow him to install yet another corrupt Democrat crony in the highest levels of law enforcement. And the party will go on.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 11:44 AM (s5o+q)

380 It is interesting to see what happens when you mention to LIVs that Obama is allied to ISIS in Syria, and that they almost started WWIII when they executed that Russian pilot. Yes, WWIII was avoided because Vlad Putin is a more rational man then the current President of the US.

The problem is how to do you reach any significant segment of them when the State Media exists to protect the government?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2016 11:44 AM (X7E8f)

381 Maybe this is why Comrade Barry met with Comrade Bernie the other day. The feces is about to meet the fan for Hillary. Although I doubt it and the MFM will cover for her.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2016 11:44 AM (493sH)

382 "332 Cooke is amazingly adept at playing the offended Brit intellectual. "So you mean to tell me, good chap, pip pip, that Ruubio, a man of impecible manners, is 'open.borders'? preposterous!" Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 04:27 PM (EjBTO) Git 'im ace" -------- They're friends so don't expect it to get testy.

Posted by: Decaf at January 29, 2016 11:44 AM (482y1)

383 Well, they'll schlong ya when you're walkin' 'long the street They'll schlong ya when you're tryin' to keep your seat They'll schlong ya when you're walkin' on the floor They'll schlong ya when you're walkin' to the door But I would not feel so all alone Everybody must get schlonged!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 11:44 AM (iQIUe)

384
What I can't figure out is all of the career making stories that have been covered up by the media in the past 8 years. How many Woodward and Bernstein moments have they refused to take part in.

We know Matt Drudge's name for one reason...He was the only on willing to run with the Monica Lewinski story. The MSM knew before Drudge but they suppressed it. After Drudge scooped them they had to cover it.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 29, 2016 04:37 PM (z+4T3)


I think this is what eats at me the most- more Watergate (I despise that word) moments than you can count.  I loathe the media.  It's just a sham and charade.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 29, 2016 11:45 AM (CFc5L)

385 Today Josh Earnst told a reporter that he didn't think Hillary would be indicted "based on what we know now." But then he said that would be the Justice Department's call. He has no business making any comments on whether or not she will be indicted

Posted by: Jane at January 29, 2016 11:45 AM (rDidp)

386 ...FBI director may quit if she isn't indicted ------------------------------ Wen Ho Lee ended up with an apology. I would expect nothing less for Mrs. Clinton. A big, beautiful apology.

Posted by: RioBravo at January 29, 2016 11:45 AM (NUqwG)

387 I find it too inconvenient to do my job in a SCIF. I think I'll take this stuff home with me because the classification system has just run amok. Yeah, I would be in jail faster you can sa....

Posted by: no good deed at January 29, 2016 11:45 AM (GgxVX)

388 "EVERYONE who has ever been in the Military and had an Admin job knows the bullshit State, the White House, and clinton is shoveling stinks to high hell." --- And most of us know that Not. A. Damn. Thing. will be done about it. Too many with too much to lose. And this includes the lunatics at the five-sided nuthouse. If those TS emails did result in the deaths of troops, including those SEALs (very likely), we will never know.

Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2016 11:45 AM (e2BUM)

389 is an orderly procedure for states to exit the union.

Step 1:  How much of 9T$ do you have in cash.

Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 29, 2016 11:45 AM (DL2i+)

390 CT, honest question. What forces them to follow the results of an Art V Convention, that isn't there forcing them to follow the Constitution? Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 04:39 PM (SAhpk) -------------- Nothing. The Article V website FAQ answer to this question: We'll write the amendment so clear it cannot be misunderstood. Thin hope there.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 29, 2016 11:45 AM (LXJ1e)

391 CT, honest question. What forces them to follow the results of an Art V Convention, that isn't there forcing them to follow the Constitution? Nothing. There is no leverage, but its the last legal step we can take. I'm not a big article V guy because I know exactly what you're saying. Its like all the rest of the "solutions" people offer like eliminating the 17th amendment etc: that only works if people are obeying the constitution to begin with. Legal, reasonable solutions only work with law abiding, reasonable people. Gandhi could only succeed in India because he was dealing with the British. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 04:42 PM (39g3+) In the end, the only thing that forces the power-holders to hove to Constitutional limits is the threat of armed rebellion. Period. And they fully understand that. Why do you think they have a permanent hard-on to gut or eliminate the Second Amendment?

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 11:46 AM (s5o+q)

392 Teflon Tunic will skate on the "I did not know" standard Law Skool 101 answer. Server= butler in garage or bathroom Secret server= illegal butler in pool house Wiping clean=Charmin, triple-ply Secret Server under Secret Service Protection= those #ukerz who pester me daily and won't carry luggage, in shack with butler Classified= Chanel or Dior, bespoke tunics Top Secret= Bill's "friends" who are topless in pool house Foreign policy= frequent flyer miles Reset button= red alert button attached to battery pack under Teflon tunic, powering legs under teflon pants

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 29, 2016 11:46 AM (7lqMl)

393 May I flip this around? If State were the original classifier, they would be cool with another agency treating the material as unclassified...right? Not a snowball's chance.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 29, 2016 11:46 AM (659DL)

394 rd,
I am afraid that you are right.  Thanks to ValJar and her pupil tilting US policy toward Iran, expect the Saudis to call in their marker to Pakistan soon for financing the Islamic Bomb. Subsequently all hell breaks loose when Iran announces exploding a peaceful demonstration bomb over Tel Aviv with the Israelis retaliating.  The Russians and Turks might also get involved and so on.

Remember a late 1980's made for TV movie I think where a US Carrier group is nuked in the Persian Gulf by the Iranians.  Scott Glenn played the embedded reporter on the ship.   


Posted by: whig at January 29, 2016 11:46 AM (mlyQI)

395 If those TS emails did result in the deaths of troops, including those SEALs (very likely), we will never know.
___
Sometimes you have to break a few eggs to create a profitable non-profit omelet.

Posted by: Hillary Duranty Clinton at January 29, 2016 11:47 AM (X7E8f)

396 Decaf I thought Chuck was my friend but he never returns my messages.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 11:47 AM (xuouz)

397 In summation, Hillary Clinton and everyone associated with her and her homebrew server unzipped their fly (thank Scott Glenn for that reference) on our national security, and Brian Fallon is full of $hit.  They should all be hanged.

Does that pretty much cover it?

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 29, 2016 11:47 AM (iIzG7)

398 390 is an orderly procedure for states to exit the union. Step 1: How much of 9T$ do you have in cash. Posted by: DaveA at January 29, 2016 04:45 PM (DL2i+) ------ I think you meant $19 trillion, but yep that is one of the questions to be answered. The best answer is probably proportion based on the population of the last census.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 29, 2016 11:48 AM (LXJ1e)

399 Nothing. The Article V website FAQ answer to this question: We'll write the amendment so clear it cannot be misunderstood. Thin hope there. 4 words: Shall not be infringed. Help me out here. How unclear is that?

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 11:48 AM (SAhpk)

400 398 In summation, Hillary Clinton and everyone associated with her and her homebrew server unzipped their fly (thank Scott Glenn for that reference) on our national security, and Brian Fallon is full of $hit. They should all be hanged. Does that pretty much cover it? Posted by: Qoheleth at January 29, 2016 04:47 PM (iIzG7) I'm personally going to hold out for drawing and quartering, but otherwise I find your sentiment amenable.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 11:48 AM (s5o+q)

401 398 In summation, Hillary Clinton and everyone associated with her and her homebrew server unzipped their fly (thank Scott Glenn for that reference) on our national security, and Brian Fallon is full of $hit. They should all be hanged. Does that pretty much cover it? --- I have a fuckton of 550 cord.

Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2016 11:49 AM (e2BUM)

402 I agree, most of the Obama administration's domestic policy has been shaped around real fear that the nation will rise up in armed rebellion if he pushes too hard. Look at his response to everything: an attempt to calm down the rubes and deflect attention away. They want to disarm us, identify us, isolate us, and protect their phony baloney jobs. The only things preventing us from rising up are an innate decency/respect for the rule of law, inertia, relative comfort, and fear of what the cost would be.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 11:49 AM (39g3+)

403 Step 1: How much of 9T$ do you have in cash.
***
I would fully hope that if Texas and co were to leave the union that the response on their share of the debt would be, "You spent it, you pay for it."

Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2016 11:49 AM (X7E8f)

404 *If that's not the plan, she's not going down. oh yes she is

Posted by: huma at January 29, 2016 11:49 AM (J1Wel)

405 OT: I'm fascinated by stuff like this, but it may not be everybody's cup of tea.>>>

Here is a set of books that teach all that kind of stuff for when there is no internet.

http://www.foxfire.org/thefoxfirebooks.aspx

Posted by: Smashed thumb at January 29, 2016 11:49 AM (XtAzU)

406 Lost in all of this, is the fact that as ordinary workers, neither Obama nor Hillary would have been granted any clearance at all, because of their known associations. *Nothing, zip, nada * They would not have been trusted to handle the cafeteria menu.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 29, 2016 11:49 AM (RrDm2)

407 A curse on you vicious, brutal hacks of the Right Wing Hate Machine who will never put their cyber crucifixion of this dedicated public servant, who has given her all to this nation, to rest! Damn you all for putting your mean spirited, right wing agendas ahead of the needs of America's hard working middle class families and their only champion!

Posted by: Real Everyday American at January 29, 2016 11:49 AM (YFFpo)

408 "381 It is interesting to see what happens when you mention to LIVs that Obama is allied to ISIS in Syria, and that they almost started WWIII when they executed that Russian pilot. Yes, WWIII was avoided because Vlad Putin is a more rational man then the current President of the US." The world owes Putin until the golfer is pensioned off.

Posted by: Decaf at January 29, 2016 11:49 AM (482y1)

409 203 This a medieval drawing of the antichrist. Cant figure out what is the think on their foreheads: https://goo.gl/lR0Mcr Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 04:10 PM (iQIUe) ---- The Stone of Folly, perhaps.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 29, 2016 11:50 AM (jR7Wy)

410 Somebody should be prepping a full-screen HiDef flaming skull with sound effects, music and 27 8x10 color glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was, to be used as evidence against her. I'm talking national holiday-quality celebratory art.

Posted by: Spellcheck at January 29, 2016 11:50 AM (HKBpI)

411 Help me out here. How unclear is that? === Nobody's asking you to put fringes on anything.

Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 11:50 AM (3ZtZW)

412 For normal folks... with a Secret Clearance....   it can be revoked for a DWI.   Think about that.   There are a lot of Government security clearance holders who'z careers have been RUINED for the smallest infraction....

Lot of folks are sayin, WTF?  Adds to cynicism.  Only a matter of time... till... the burning times.  Am I wrong?  Dare I say... Fucko even?

Posted by: Yip und dos Rich Corinthians at January 29, 2016 11:50 AM (e7T6D)

413
Cooke is amazingly adept at playing the offended Brit intellectual. "So you mean to tell me, good chap, pip pip, that Ruubio, a man of impecible manners, is 'open.borders'? preposterous!"
Posted by: joe-impeachin44



Play?  The fop is entirely sincere in his foppishness:

Charles C. W. Cooke

Are you under the impression that NR exists to parrot the transient folly of pluralities?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 29, 2016 11:50 AM (kdS6q)

414 "it is amazing the watts spent talking about trump's vulgarity, but you couldn't lite a Christmas tree with the watts spent talking about this in the demo debate. " it's outrageous is what it is all proportion has been lost in this lickspittle political world I hope it all burns, starting over would be a gift

Posted by: Feh at January 29, 2016 11:50 AM (8Vn+p)

415 Why do you think they have a permanent hard-on to gut or eliminate the Second Amendment? Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 04:46 PM (s5o+q) ---------------- And work double time to quash the least hint of it.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 29, 2016 11:50 AM (LXJ1e)

416 Nothing. The Article V website FAQ answer to this question: We'll write the amendment so clear it cannot be misunderstood. Thin hope there. Depends on what the definition of "is" is. Two letters. They can't make it clear enough.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 11:50 AM (SAhpk)

417 Filbert, You are probably right, unfortunately.

Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2016 11:51 AM (sj3Ax)

418 have a great weekend all of you I'm out

Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 11:51 AM (3ZtZW)

419 Nobody's asking you to put fringes on anything. Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 04:50 PM (3ZtZW) Oh, cool! Can we get into an irrelevant argument about the hidden meaning of the yellow fringe around the Stars and Stripes? Concerned Illuminati want to know.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 11:51 AM (s5o+q)

420

4 words: Shall not be infringed.
Help me out here. How unclear is that?

I'll let John Roberts explain it to you.   Take it away Chief Justice extortion victim . . .

Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 11:51 AM (JTwsP)

421 Remember a late 1980's made for TV movie I think where a US Carrier group is nuked in the Persian Gulf by the Iranians. Scott Glenn played the embedded reporter on the ship.
***
Back in 2003 I recall a lot of anti-Iraq war types arguing Bush's plan for the Iraq war would end up with a nuclear conflict in the middle east.

Now at the time how that would work was not at all thought out since only Israel had nukes...but they were sure of it.

Ah the irony if Obama's policy instead leads to such a conflict...and with Israel and Saudi Arabia on the same side!

Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2016 11:51 AM (X7E8f)

422 387 ...FBI director may quit if she isn't indicted ------------------------------ Wen Ho Lee ended up with an apology. I would expect nothing less for Mrs. Clinton. A big, beautiful apology. Posted by: RioBravo at January 29, 2016 04:45 PM (NUqwG) --- Wen played the Racism card, and she can play the Sexism card.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 29, 2016 11:51 AM (jR7Wy)

423 It is interesting to see what happens when you mention to LIVs that Obama is allied to ISIS in Syria, and that they almost started WWIII when they executed that Russian pilot. Yes, WWIII was avoided because Vlad Putin is a more rational man then the current President of the US. The problem is how to do you reach any significant segment of them when the State Media exists to protect the government? Posted by: 18-1 at January 29, 2016 04:44 PM (X7E8f) They're so damn indoctrinated and dumb I don't know what can get through to them.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2016 11:51 AM (493sH)

424 >> I have a fuckton of 550 cord.

I think you're gonna need a bigger rope.

Posted by: Brody at January 29, 2016 11:52 AM (ml1PM)

425 The State Department: More Powerful Than God I've heard of an imperial presidency, who ever thought we'd have an imperial State Dept?

Posted by: TallDave at January 29, 2016 11:52 AM (74ZYB)

426 The real question is: what would it take for people to grimly grab their weapons and head out? How far would things have to get? If the FBI started kicking in doors and dragging people away with black bags over their heads would we take action? Or mock the people that did as Y'All Quada and sip a latte while tut tutting on Twitter?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 11:52 AM (39g3+)

427 Meanwhile, Zombie Nixon spins in his grave.

Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 11:52 AM (oiNtH)

428 "FBI director may resign" I don't know which is the proper path to take; resign or stay and fight. It's beginning to look like there might be a case of obstruction of justice by the Attorney General, and the President. How do you fight that? Let Obama run out the clock, and conceed that he is untouchable, and unstoppable? We're in uncharted territory here where there are no rules anymore.

Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 29, 2016 11:52 AM (pfIXo)

429 if only she could be tried in Texas It really wouldn't take very much to find a whole slew of state charges against her.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2016 11:52 AM (zc3Db)

430 **shiftyeyes**

Posted by: The Scorpion at January 29, 2016 11:53 AM (evdj2)

431 >>>new Decision Desk Daily newsletter (sign up here for a free trial)

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Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at January 29, 2016 11:53 AM (R+30W)

432 Remember a late 1980's made for TV movie I think where a US Carrier group is nuked in the Persian Gulf by the Iranians. Scott Glenn played the embedded reporter on the ship. Countdown to Looking Glass. It was in the context of a US-Soviet escalation with Oman as a Saudi client. Iran not involved.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 29, 2016 11:53 AM (9krrF)

433 "Remember a late 1980's made for TV movie I think where a US Carrier
group is nuked in the Persian Gulf by the Iranians. Scott Glenn played
the embedded reporter on the ship."


Countdown to Looking Glass.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 29, 2016 11:54 AM (iIzG7)

434 The next Democrat debate is Thursday, February 4th. If Bernie decides to start talking about Clinton's emails, I will wager on an indictment handed down soon.

Posted by: no good deed at January 29, 2016 11:54 AM (GgxVX)

435 We're in uncharted territory here where there are no rules anymore. Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 29, 2016 04:52 PM (pfIXo) This territory was charted way back in the very beginning - that's what impeachment was for.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 29, 2016 11:55 AM (zc3Db)

436 $19 trillion,

Ooops.

but yep that is one of the questions to be answered.
Seriously.
"You spent it, you pay for it."
See my prior comedy comparing Fed to Hindenburg.

Our credit card bills payment record IS the store of value in the current planetary economy.  Missing payments would be a bad thing.

I'm going walkies before sunset.


Posted by: DaveA[/i][/b][/s] at January 29, 2016 11:55 AM (DL2i+)

437 98 Hold my beer and watch what I do with this hard-drive. Posted by: hilllary at January 29, 2016 03:55 PM (WOyz5) *lick*

Posted by: huma at January 29, 2016 11:55 AM (J1Wel)

438 Folks, just a heads up, but the Smith Cloud (a monstrous cosmic gas cloud) is set to ignite the Milky Way.

SMOD is now SCOD.

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at January 29, 2016 11:55 AM (ml1PM)

439 For normal folks... with a Secret Clearance.... it can be revoked for a DWI. Think about that. There are a lot of Government security clearance holders who'z careers have been RUINED for the smallest infraction.... Lot of folks are sayin, WTF? Adds to cynicism. Only a matter of time... till... the burning times. Am I wrong? Dare I say... Fucko even? Posted by: Yip und dos Rich Corinthians at January 29, 2016 04:50 PM (e7T6D) Or any financial problems. Just a letter from the IRS can trigger lose of Security Clearance and revocation of a "Selected" Promotion...NOT me but one of my Officers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 11:55 AM (DUoqb)

440 433 434  - you guys were separated at birth.

Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 11:55 AM (JTwsP)

441 This a medieval drawing of the antichrist. Cant figure out what is the think on their foreheads - It's an ancient symbol meaning Bung, bung, bung, bung, bung Bung, bung, bung, bung, bung Bung, bung, bung, bung, bung Bung, bung, bung, bung, bung Bung, bung, bung, bung, bung Mr. Sandman, bring me a dream (Bung, bung, bung, bung) Make him the socialest that I've ever seen. Actually, it may be the mark of the beast which all must have on forehead or wrist.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 29, 2016 11:56 AM (Nwg0u)

442
Oh, isn't this just adorable:
               
WaPo: The United States and Great Britain combined to hack into Israeli drone and fighter jet surveillance feeds as part of secret program that in part watched for a potential Israeli military strike against Iran, according to a new report....



So they could give the Iranians a heads up, no doubt.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 29, 2016 11:56 AM (kdS6q)

443 Charles C. W. Cooke Are you under the impression that NR exists to parrot the transient folly of pluralities? Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 29, 2016 04:50 PM (kdS6q) That's the greatest thing I've ever read.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 11:56 AM (xuouz)

444 This territory was charted way back in the very beginning - that's what impeachment was for. But we're in territory where congress will not take action, the courts cannot, and the executive is in on it. All that was left in the past was the press, but they're protecting the corrupt. Uncharted.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 11:56 AM (39g3+)

445 BTW, the new Vanity Fair details Trump's rebuffed romantic advances towards some Fox blonde bimbo. Her husband provides corroboration. This must have been on the presses when the whole debate contretemps began.

Posted by: Spellcheck at January 29, 2016 11:56 AM (HKBpI)

446 >>>Today Josh Earnst told a reporter that he didn't think Hillary would be indicted "based on what we know now." What a stupid comment by the Mouth of Sauron.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 29, 2016 11:56 AM (ppaKI)

447 Crypto

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 29, 2016 11:56 AM (n22zQ)

448 421 4 words: Shall not be infringed. Help me out here. How unclear is that? I'll let John Roberts explain it to you. Take it away Chief Justice extortion victim . . . Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 04:51 PM (JTwsP) Well, you see, "shall" is actually a contraction of "shallow," meaning, well, not very deep. So we see from this construction that the Founders did not mean for this clause to be taken at all seriously. In fact, it is something of an 18th Century practical joke, or pun, if you will. "not be" is an archaic form of the word "newbie," meaning one who is inexperienced. This simply confirms the jovial nature of this clause. "Infringed" is a term referring to the very edges of any item. So you see that this was intended to be a peripheral in-joke by the Founders. The Second Amendment is hereby overturned. Drinks at my place!

Posted by: The Honorable Chief Justice John Roberts at January 29, 2016 11:56 AM (s5o+q)

449 Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 29, 2016 04:56 PM (Nwg0u) Fantastic. Now you've got me going.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 11:57 AM (xuouz)

450
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Posted by: Anon Y. Mous



#TwoWeeks

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 29, 2016 11:57 AM (kdS6q)

451 Lot of folks are sayin, WTF? Adds to cynicism. Only a matter of time... till... the burning times. Am I wrong? Dare I say... Fucko even? Posted by: Yip und dos Rich Corinthians at January 29, 2016 04:50 PM (e7T6D) --- Not to brag, but I make a mean effigy. If there is an indictment, I would love to contribute one to immanentize the burning times on a very small and intimate scale. Maybe a block party with some contained looting in the nicer sections of the capital. Like a spontaneous Momee, but with fire! Where are there some nice Art Nouveau lampposts?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at January 29, 2016 11:57 AM (jR7Wy)

452 Today Josh Earnst told a reporter that he didn't think Hillary would be indicted "based on what we know now." What a stupid comment by the Mouth of Sauron. Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 29, 2016 04:56 PM (ppaKI) And they just reported on FOX that the people at Justice and the FBI are furious about that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 11:57 AM (DUoqb)

453 Remember a late 1980's made for TV movie I think where a US Carrier group is nuked in the Persian Gulf by the Iranians. Scott Glenn played the embedded reporter on the ship. **** yeah!

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 11:57 AM (EjBTO)

454 439 Folks, just a heads up, but the Smith Cloud (a monstrous cosmic gas cloud) is set to ignite the Milky Way. SMOD is now SCOD. --- Damn tease. "...scientists estimate that it will finally crash into the galaxy in about 30 million years." http://tinyurl.com/htalowg

Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2016 11:58 AM (e2BUM)

455 >>>Today Josh Earnst told a reporter that he didn't think Hillary would be indicted "based on what we know now." ------------- Unspoken : "President Obama would never damage the Democrat Party just for the well-being of the country."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 29, 2016 11:58 AM (n22zQ)

456 Country Singer, State has long had a patrician disregard for security - its boring and they are all too smart for it. DHS is just base incompetence, surprised those clowns can find their car keys everyday after work. This would be a great time for the fort to pull their credentials.

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2016 11:58 AM (21pho)

457
That's the greatest thing I've ever read.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR



It is so -- him.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 29, 2016 11:58 AM (kdS6q)

458 Ooh, they're 'furious'. What are they gonna do?

Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2016 11:58 AM (e2BUM)

459 SCOD is a bigger tease than SMOD.

Unless SMOD is the Sweet Microbes of Death.  Aka Ebola or Zika.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2016 11:59 AM (osI0T)

460 "Jesus, he just stressed it wasn't "marked" classified. Again." Look, if he doesn't toe the line, how is NPR "News" (snort) gonna know to stay with trying to buffalo the rubes? These good little troopers were still on message as of this morning!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 29, 2016 11:59 AM (jcNu5)

461 "based on what we know now." I guess it's only "inappropriate to comment on an ongoing investigation" when it is politically expedient for dear leader. I hate these bastards with the fire of a thousand suns.

Posted by: no good deed at January 29, 2016 11:59 AM (GgxVX)

462 The even more uncharted territory we're moving into is the very real possibility of a tyranny being set up for the first time in human history with the full support, protection and backing of a willing and voluntary press corps and academia. Its difficult to even fit my head around that concept. It is without historical precedent. Its Brave New World territory where the tyrants found a way to take all liberty away with the agreement of the subjects.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 12:00 PM (39g3+)

463 449 Nicely done. Now do Scalia's dissent and I will electronically send you a box of Cuban cigars.

Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 12:00 PM (JTwsP)

464 that was the end of the movie, as I recall.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 12:00 PM (EjBTO)

465 >>>And they just reported on FOX that the people at Justice and the FBI are furious about that. Furious maybe, but if they're also surprised then they haven't been paying attention.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 29, 2016 12:00 PM (ppaKI)

466 456 >>>Today Josh Earnst told a reporter that he didn't think Hillary would be indicted "based on what we know now." F**k Josh Unearnest.. The fact that there is even a possibility that She did this is indictment enough...

Posted by: donna at January 29, 2016 12:00 PM (/dSsq)

467 Burn her!   Yes...  with Fire!!!  

Posted by: Yip und dos Rich Corinthians at January 29, 2016 12:00 PM (e7T6D)

468 All Hail Eris, well finished rewrite of the first 12k words.  You might not recognize the opening now.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2016 12:00 PM (osI0T)

469 454 Remember a late 1980's made for TV movie I think where a US Carrier group is nuked in the Persian Gulf by the Iranians. Scott Glenn played the embedded reporter on the ship. Through the Looking glass, Countdown to Looking Glass, or something like that?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 29, 2016 12:00 PM (zYV5P)

470
Also:

WaPo: State-run Iranian media reported Friday that Iran recently flew a military drone over a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier, and released a video that they said showed the provocative action underway.



Thanks Thom!

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 29, 2016 12:00 PM (kdS6q)

471

Reset button= red alert button attached to battery pack under Teflon tunic, powering legs under teflon pants

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen

.............

 

also wired directly to her Vibease in case batteries die

Posted by: wth at January 29, 2016 12:00 PM (HgMAr)

472 Ooh, they're 'furious'. What are they gonna do? Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2016 04:58 PM (e2BUM) ya know there are still good people not only in the Military but also in other Government Service. And some of "Them" and "Us" can only be pushed so far. What can they do? Selective leaks and resignations and turing the harsh light of day on the shit that is going on. It has been done in the past and can still be done..Sometimes it only takes a few pillars to fall to bring down the fuckin building.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 12:01 PM (DUoqb)

473 I keep looking at everyone participating in this Administration and coming back to those immortal words of Hanover Fiste:

"He's nothing but a low-down, double-dealing, backstabbing, larcenous perverted worm! Hanging's too good for him. Burning's too good for him! He should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive!"

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 29, 2016 12:01 PM (iIzG7)

474 Good little spokesdoggie. "How can it be classified if it's not marked classified? If it's not marked classified, how can it be classified? That's not classified because it's not marked classified!" Yeah, and I can get a new car for free, if I go to the car lot and remove the price tags from it. Hillary also claimed that It Was Allowed to use her own private unsecured server instead of a secure .gov email account. How come no one is asking just who the phuck Allowed It? Who has that authority? Where is the evidence that It Was Allowed? I can think of one person, and his initials are BHO. Maybe that's why he hasn't thrown her under the bus yet.

Posted by: starboardhelm at January 29, 2016 12:01 PM (hOtJL)

475 >>> Things were pretty ghastly under Harding, but the difference is back
then there was at least an underlying Judeo-Christian heritage and
sense of justice in the culture.

"And no income tax or welfare state so there was a limit to the damage they could do."

The income tax had been around for a few years before Harding.

It had not yet grown into the metastasized cancerous monster that it would eventually become.

Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 12:02 PM (noWW6)

476 just another end of Reagan piece of TV agit-prop. You know, the soviets were aggrieved.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 12:02 PM (EjBTO)

477 All of you say it's Friday, I know you keep repeating that as "fact", and as soon as we complete our exhaustive enquiry (approximately two years from now) we will be able to determine the reality of which day it is, as the State Department sees it. Please be patient while we determine the answer! This will be the final statement we will make on this subject.

Posted by: Marie Harf, State Spokesmodel at January 29, 2016 12:02 PM (TxJGV)

478 Pail the elder is on FBN. Strange.

Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2016 12:02 PM (sj3Ax)

479 State has long had a patrician disregard for security - its boring and they are all too smart for it. That's the impression I've gotten. DHS is just base incompetence, surprised those clowns can find their car keys everyday after work. That's to be expected from an organization that recruited for TSA on pizza boxes. This would be a great time for the fort to pull their credentials. Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2016 04:58 PM (21pho) Concur wholeheartedly.

Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2016 12:03 PM (GUBah)

480 "Damn tease.
...scientists estimate that it will finally crash into the galaxy in about 30 million years."
SMFH at January 29, 2016 04:58 PM

At this point, what does it matter?

Posted by: Hillary! at January 29, 2016 12:03 PM (ml1PM)

481 He's joshing, and he ain't being earnest.

"Based on what we know now..."  Buddy, you know just two things: Jack and $h!t.  And Jack just left town.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 29, 2016 12:03 PM (iIzG7)

482 Never even knew this existed - Countdown to Looking Glass.
https://youtu.be/knSSUEdLcvg

I guess in this case Looking Glass is Kneecap or an EC-135 or now VC-25A.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2016 12:03 PM (osI0T)

483 Harding...   he was a long time ago, right?

Posted by: Yip und dos Rich Corinthians at January 29, 2016 12:03 PM (e7T6D)

484 After the way they went after Petraeus they can't possibly let all this slide without some type of punishment.

Maybe she doesn't go to jail but she needs some taking down of some sort otherwise why are they letting all this information come out?

There has to be some closure to this. Even if it's just a hefty fine and some sort of probation.

At least Petraeus didn't leave his stuff in unsecure equipment for anyone to grab.

I do so want to see her do a perp walk. They didn't make Petraeus do one so probably not.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 29, 2016 12:04 PM (Xo1Rt)

485

Its difficult to even fit my head around that concept. It is without historical precedent. Its Brave New World territory where the tyrants found a way to take all liberty away with the agreement of the subjects.

 

    A kind of hyper propaganda/mass marketing media tool.  Its kind of an inevitable end point once the science is developed to deliver they psychology, and the society has lost its morals and resistance to programing.

Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 12:04 PM (JTwsP)

486 Anyone else having trouble trying to watch or listen to video Ace linked?

Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2016 12:04 PM (sj3Ax)

487 480 State has long had a patrician disregard for security - its boring and they are all too smart for it. That's the impression I've gotten. DHS is just base incompetence, surprised those clowns can find their car keys everyday after work. That's to be expected from an organization that recruited for TSA on pizza boxes. This would be a great time for the fort to pull their credentials. Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2016 04:58 PM (21pho) Concur wholeheartedly. Posted by: Country Singer at January 29, 2016 05:03 PM (GUBah) Shorter: Go Home, Federal Government, You're Drunk.

Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 12:04 PM (s5o+q)

488 If the law applied to special historic women Democrats, Hillary might have something to worry about. But at this juncture, the inquiries are little more than inconvenient speed bumps on the road to her coronation.

Posted by: kbdabear at January 29, 2016 12:05 PM (pOHMv)

489 Ngu, Yes, there are some decent folks in govt. Unfortunately, they too have families, bills to pay, etc. When it comes to weighing supporting a family vs. whistleblowing (especially considering how some whistleblowers have been treated by this admin), I don't hold out much hope anymore. I think the bitch will walk, and may even become president. That is how little I think of the "decency" of the American people. The fact we're even discussing this is proof. Free shit over freedom.

Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2016 12:05 PM (e2BUM)

490 countdown was from 84? Wow. I remember that, thought it was 87. I think you're having a problem with watching the live feed because the event is over now.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 12:06 PM (EjBTO)

491 "One man with the truth is a majority." Thus spake Thomas Jefferson, a personage with whom even you American-educated Americans must be in some fashion familiar. And that's just me, you see? I'm one man, and I've got the truth. So see here, you pastoral ruffians. The truth is, that for all I find the lack of any kind of social norms of speech or comportment here in 'the states' just smashing, and I like a well-turned carbine as much as the next concealment be-decked deer-stander, I've really had it up to here, quite up to here, with the insistence on all of this border wash. It's rubbish, really execrable dreck, and I won't stand for it. I don't *care* if you've got a plurality, see? I'm the majority, and that's based on what one of the founders himself wrote. So don't bandy about "strict constructionist" with ME, old thing, or I'll show you how we handled this sort of thing at Eton, or Oxford, or god help me one of the dreadful universities of yours at which I've recently become an honorary alumnus.

Posted by: Chuckie Chuckie W Cooke at January 29, 2016 12:06 PM (xuouz)

492 Two shots... way up in the air.

Posted by: Uncle Joe at January 29, 2016 12:06 PM (e7T6D)

493 Sock off and GOOD DAY TO YOU, morons, I'm headed to a house party and hope I don't wake up on the floor.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 12:07 PM (xuouz)

494 Yes, there are some decent folks in govt. Unfortunately, they too have families, bills to pay, etc. When it comes to weighing supporting a family vs. whistleblowing (especially considering how some whistleblowers have been treated by this admin), I don't hold out much hope anymore. I think the bitch will walk, and may even become president. That is how little I think of the "decency" of the American people. The fact we're even discussing this is proof. Free shit over freedom. Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2016 05:05 PM (e2BUM) Your probably correct, but I sleep better at night thinking, hoping, that some honorable man or women will step forward ( hopefully with a rich spouse so they can afford to) and right all the wrongs in this world. I have to since I can't take drugs anymore since I have to give at the Golden Flow all the time.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 12:07 PM (DUoqb)

495 Oh crap. Now I have "Mr.Sandman" stuck in my ear.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 29, 2016 12:07 PM (T/5A0)

496 Yes, there are some decent folks in govt. Unfortunately, they too have families, bills to pay, etc. There's good evidence people are more willing to in the abstract say they'd die for their nation than lose their job over it. Dying is so distant and theoretical but the job is every day. Its too real. Not every one of those guys in the death camps wanted to be there or agreed with what was happening. Inmates reported that some of the guards were quite decent to them. But they feared what would happen if they quit or rebelled more than they did the moral consequences of being a part of it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 12:08 PM (39g3+)

497 Ghost of Kari hopes not to wake up on the floor?

Why do I get the feeling there will be whipped cream and bondage items used in the near future?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2016 12:08 PM (osI0T)

498 @494  Ghost of Kari... .have a good time.  Wear clean underpants.  Don't ask!

Posted by: Uncle Joe at January 29, 2016 12:08 PM (e7T6D)

499 "Alright, who wants to get under the bus? Which one of you assholes is falling on your sword so I can be the Historic First Lesbian President?"

Posted by: Hank at January 29, 2016 12:09 PM (BtG7l)

500 Catherine Herridge needs to look out. She's going to get hacked. Hacked? She's gonna get WHACKED!

Posted by: Thanatopsis at January 29, 2016 12:09 PM (W/F6U)

501 I attempted to listen to the decision desk podcast on the debate. I lasted less than 5 minutes. "Good debate" "Rubio had a good night" "loser was Ted Cruz." I'd much rather have had ace's analysis which would have been grounded in more of the reality of the bullshit that is Fox News.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2016 12:09 PM (zt+N6)

502 If you wanted (or hell, needed) any further proof that the Democrat Party- is a bunch of anti-patriotic bungholes who want to bring down the U.S.- and only care about the goodies and power they can snag for themselves and their cronies as the ship of state goes under. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you exhibit A.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 29, 2016 12:09 PM (0cMkb)

503 Things were pretty ghastly under Harding, but the difference is back then there was at least an underlying Judeo-Christian heritage and sense of justice in the culture. Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 03:55 PM (39g3+) Barry: High horses! Crusades!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2016 12:09 PM (493sH)

504

Vibease is the world's first wearable Smart vibrator controlled by Android and iPhone. We allow women to slip it inside their undergarment whenever they want.

 

Well, now we know why she had multiple smartphones, always wears pantsuits, and cackles uncontrollably at odd times.

Posted by: wth at January 29, 2016 12:10 PM (HgMAr)

505 Free shit over freedom. If she becomes President, I will encourage my husband to retire from the military. I will not have him serve under the administration of that lying, conniving harpy. As for the people who would vote for her, screw them too. I'm done sacrificing for assholes like them. THEY can bear the burden.

Posted by: no good deed at January 29, 2016 12:10 PM (GgxVX)

506 Just read a story about how all the galaxy is empty because a previous civilization realized this galaxy was going to collide with another so they set out to keep other species from becoming more technologically dependent so that life would not necessarily be destroyed by it.

The premise that high tech civs are at greater risk of a cataclysmic event destroy them

And if you look these days, certain events would take us back 2,000 years because our current reliance on tech for knowledge storage and basic provisions and manufacturing.

I've long wondered about the headlong rush to put all our eggs in a very fragile basket.

Currently much of our knowledge is now stored only in volatile memory and not hard copy.

Even a small meteorite strike in the US, depending on where it hit, would put the US back a couple hundred years almost over night.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 29, 2016 12:10 PM (Xo1Rt)

507 I hear ya, no good deed. I stepped away in 2008.

Posted by: SMFH at January 29, 2016 12:11 PM (e2BUM)

508 Sharyl Atkisson wrote about watching her computer do things & assumed it was The JEF administration or it could've been CBS to protect him. Catherine has to have several computers & backups.

Posted by: Carol at January 29, 2016 12:11 PM (sj3Ax)

509 Bitter Clinger, been reading Lucifer's Hammer again?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2016 12:12 PM (osI0T)

510 Posted by: no good deed at January 29, 2016 05:10 PM (GgxVX)

If she becomes POTUS, I predict a civil war breaks out within 6 months. She's bound to do something tyrannical and overextend her minions.

It's just in her nature.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 29, 2016 12:12 PM (Xo1Rt)

511 SOME OF HILLARY'S ILLEGAL EMAILS DEEMED TOO DAMAGING TO NATIONAL SECURITY TO EVER RELEASE that is also what they might call emails too damaging to Hillary to ever release.

Posted by: x at January 29, 2016 12:12 PM (nFwvY)

512 "Even a small meteorite strike in the US, depending on where it hit, would put the US back a couple hundred years almost over night."

No bigs.  We'd still be twelve hundred years ahead of the Muslims.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 29, 2016 12:12 PM (iIzG7)

513 No one within the IC will ever share another TS document with State ever again if there is a "process" at state that can arbitrarily disclose information from another agency deems Top Secret. Ain't gon'na happen.

Posted by: Dblwmy at January 29, 2016 12:12 PM (50DMc)

514 @502 Buzzion is Right about Ace being missed!  Missed him last podcast too.  No offense to the guys, but Ace just adds that air of incredulity that makes me laugh cause just because.

Next week then Ace.

And I'm not dead either.  Prost.

Posted by: Yip und dox RICH Corinthians at January 29, 2016 12:12 PM (e7T6D)

515 A few years ago a small part of DoD, really minor place, completely effd up their computer security. Secret only, nothing really hot. The NSA types were going to pull their credentials, the Pentagon pulled every officer, gs13, and senior nco out. Wiped the place clean. New leadership, new culture, etc. We need to see the same, not just HRC - but the entire clown car at State.

Posted by: Jean at January 29, 2016 12:12 PM (21pho)

516 I've long wondered about the headlong rush to put all our eggs in a very fragile basket. Yeah, this concerns me as well. Its partly why I do not like storing everything "on the cloud" and not just because its a trendy phrase. People who own no physical copies of music, games, videos, books, etc are going to be awfully upset when the inevitable and easily predicted happens.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 12:13 PM (39g3+)

517 All these threads are depressing because all of this, ALL of it was obvious and predicable from day one. And nothing will happen. I'm at a hair appt and bored.

Posted by: Lea at January 29, 2016 12:13 PM (pVm8g)

518 So she is either indicted or Obama let's her slide. I don't see any other possibility

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 12:13 PM (voOPb)

519 Even a small meteorite strike in the US, depending on where it hit, would put the US back a couple hundred years almost over night. Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 29, 2016 05:10 PM (Xo1Rt) Go on...

Posted by: Bob's House of Tricorn hats and Waistcoats at January 29, 2016 12:13 PM (vgIRn)

520 507 Just read a story about how all the galaxy is empty because a previous civilization realized this galaxy was going to collide with another so they set out to keep other species from becoming more technologically dependent so that life would not necessarily be destroyed by it. That is so stupid.

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2016 12:13 PM (zt+N6)

521 One of the things I remember from the time between when the election of George Bush was decided and when he took office was that a number of Democrats admitted that they were relieved that with the end of the Clinton presidency they would no longer have to go out in public and tell ridiculous lies that they knew were lies and that every body they told them to knew were lies. This stuff with Hillary and her felony email server reminds me of Lanny Davis going out to lie every day on TV. Maybe I am giving Democrats too much credit but I think that there might be a significant number of Democrats who are unhappy with the idea of telling lies to defend Hillary Clinton for four or eight years the way they did for her husband. I mean it's not even the Iowa caucus yet and her loyal followers are already having to tell obvious lies with a straight face.

Posted by: obnoxious ahole at January 29, 2016 12:13 PM (MpvuV)

522 If these broads never did publicity shots wearing a teddie and a smile, then they can't be real media journalists.

Posted by: Megyn the fox at January 29, 2016 12:14 PM (msVAP)

523 Selling influence in the State Department in exchange for cash payments to the Clinton Foundation and speaking fees to her husband aka "Bribery" Engaging in electioneering with resources of the State Department, including her own time and significant staff time. Hatch Act violation. Money laundering via the Clinton Foundation. Mishandling of highly classified information (absolutely intentional, given her emails, memos reprimanding staff for same, and her own emails to staff on how to circumvent secured communications procedures). This is not "just some stuff about emails" and "the email scandal" is the shittiest, most misleading moniker for this. If "our" candidates, and by "our" I mean any patriotic opposition has an ounce of resolve to spare this country a disastrous Presidency, if not the complete breakdown of the rule of law, consent of the governed and to spare this country what may well be the box after the ballot box, they need to put the case in plain, and much more descriptive terms to the people and indict her ass.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at January 29, 2016 12:14 PM (k8tEg)

524 scientists estimate that it will finally crash into the galaxy in about 30 million years." - Wouldn't you know it? That's right when my mortgage will be paid off.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 29, 2016 12:14 PM (Nwg0u)

525 With everything on the Cloud in a digital format...

Orwell would have a serious orgasm.  Truly would be the Age of Plastic History.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2016 12:14 PM (osI0T)

526 Hair today gone tomorrow.

Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 12:14 PM (JTwsP)

527 I'm shocked... it actually made Yahoo headline news. Of course the "story" tries to give Her an out...

Posted by: donna at January 29, 2016 12:15 PM (/dSsq)

528 One of the things I remember from the time between when the election of George Bush was decided and when he took office was that a number of Democrats admitted that they were relieved that with the end of the Clinton presidency they would no longer have to go out in public and tell ridiculous lies that they knew were lies and that every body they told them to knew were lies. I remember that as well. They were quite open about it. But when another Clinton comes along, they're eager to start up again and sell their souls. I wonder some days if they go home and just stare in the bathroom mirror like a Noir movie.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 12:16 PM (39g3+)

529 That's okay. If anyone needs to see the emails and doesn't have clearance, I'm sure the Chinese or Russians will be glad to show them.

Posted by: Abby Normal at January 29, 2016 12:16 PM (jzFjy)

530 I'm late to this thread but Herridge arguing with this lickspittle is like arguing with a 5 year old - which is a hallmark of the Clinton's operating style - going back to Billy Jeff's "it depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is". And the fact that the American lemmingocracy accepted it then doomed us to having to listen to it now.
That fuck should have been hounded out of office when he first made that sophomoric argument so that we wouldn't have to be listening to his hag making the same.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 29, 2016 12:16 PM (SK7CK)

531 Free shit over freedom. - Birthright or bowl of porridge.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 29, 2016 12:17 PM (Nwg0u)

532 Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2016 05:12 PM (osI0T)

Alistair Reynolds and the Revelation Space series (sort of series)

Wiki: http://tinyurl.com/zuzmmep

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 29, 2016 12:17 PM (Xo1Rt)

533 531   So, the bad news is, that style of argument is all the rage on college campuses and has been for a decade.

Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 12:17 PM (JTwsP)

534 518 All these threads are depressing because all of this, ALL of it was obvious and predicable from day one. And nothing will happen.

I'm at a hair appt and bored. Posted by: Lea


That hurt our feelings.  We, the settlers of Rock Ridge, put our best foot forward to add levity and try to counteract the general fucko nature in the comments.  That you don't recognize the effort clearly makes you the biggest asshole in the State. 

Posted by: Letter to Govenor William J. Le Petomane at January 29, 2016 12:18 PM (e7T6D)

535 China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea are just hoping she gets elected President so the blackmail on what was really in all those deleted emails can start.

Posted by: Mr. FeverHead at January 29, 2016 12:19 PM (j1Wvr)

536 Yeah, this concerns me as well. Its partly why I do not like storing everything "on the cloud" and not just because its a trendy phrase. People who own no physical copies of music, games, videos, books, etc are going to be awfully upset when the inevitable and easily predicted happens. There's a really juvenile (and therefore hilarious) Chrome plugin that replaces the text "the cloud" with "my butt" and "cloud" to "butt". It highlights the stupidity of declaring "the cloud" to be a panacea when you read a statement like, "'We're going to put all of our data in my butt', said senior CIO James Huff."

Posted by: bonhomme at January 29, 2016 12:19 PM (jhqr1)

537 meh

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at January 29, 2016 12:19 PM (Dwehj)

538 hair today, goon tomorrow.

*punchline of an old joke*

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 29, 2016 12:19 PM (Xo1Rt)

539 I'm convinced all the world players all have every email from Hildabeast and none will ever cough them up, friend or foe

Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2016 12:19 PM (hk3Fb)

540 This ain't no disco
It ain't no country club either
This is DC!

All I wanna do is rule the world
I got a feeling I am a special girl
All I wanna do is rule the world
I'll be the President who can make you hurl
All I wanna do is rule the world
When the sun comes up over Pennsylvania Avenue...

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 29, 2016 12:19 PM (iIzG7)

541 I got worse news. The Sun is going to evolve into a red giant and cook the fucking earth. We only got 4,000,000,000 years!

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 12:20 PM (xWW96)

542 536 China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea are just hoping she gets elected President so the blackmail on what was really in all those deleted emails can start. I'm worried that some of these included Our operatives names...

Posted by: donna at January 29, 2016 12:20 PM (/dSsq)

543 Now I have "Mr.Sandman" stuck in my ear. - You're welcome.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 29, 2016 12:20 PM (Nwg0u)

544 Wait...why am I in jail, again?

Posted by: Chelsa "Red Knees" Manning at January 29, 2016 12:20 PM (j1Wvr)

545 536 gives my reason

Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2016 12:20 PM (hk3Fb)

546 That hurt our feelings. We, the settlers of Rock Ridge, put our best foot forward to add levity and try to counteract the general fucko nature in the comments. That you don't recognize the effort clearly makes you the biggest asshole in the State. Refhrahgher!

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at January 29, 2016 12:21 PM (39g3+)

547 Hello boys, ya miss me?

Posted by: Donald Trump getting a bump in the polls at January 29, 2016 12:21 PM (k8tEg)

548 IIRC - The Law doesn't care when the information became classified.

Posted by: garrett at January 29, 2016 12:21 PM (b99VK)

549 It's Friday.  Has Granny Clinton been given her final cigarette and a blindfold yet?

Posted by: Fritz at January 29, 2016 12:21 PM (BngQR)

550 If she loses Iowa, all bets are off.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 29, 2016 12:21 PM (oVJmc)

551 Yes, the Secrets were too Secret to ever let out... who knew Hillary had a copy of Barraks REAL Birth Cert?

Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 12:21 PM (f7rv6)

552 "Now I have "Mr.Sandman" stuck in my ear."

I probably just fixed that for you.  By overwriting it.

Posted by: Qoheleth at January 29, 2016 12:22 PM (iIzG7)

553 At this point the only people who don't know what was really in the emails are the American people.

Posted by: Mr. FeverHead at January 29, 2016 12:22 PM (j1Wvr)

554 *scans through Alistair Reynold's works*

Sorry, he seems derivative.  Inhibitors?  Glenn Cook in his Starfisher Trilogy from 1982 and David Weber wrote two different science fiction series with that theme.  Being knocked back technologically by acts of Nature - Lucifer's Hammer.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2016 12:22 PM (osI0T)

555 NGU- blow me with the 'good people of the federal gov bullshit'. You all suck dick. Get a real job, crybaby

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at January 29, 2016 12:22 PM (msVAP)

556 Gabby Johnson is right!

Posted by: garrett Johnson at January 29, 2016 12:22 PM (b99VK)

557 bum bum bum bum BUM bum bum bum bum BUM BUM bum bum! Mister Sandman.....

Posted by: The Chordettes at January 29, 2016 12:22 PM (39g3+)

558 I need that shiv-in-a-cake recipe, stat.

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at January 29, 2016 12:23 PM (Dwehj)

559 So nice when asshole trolls show up

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 12:23 PM (DUoqb)

560

We only got 4,000,000,000 years!

George Soros has 4,000,000,000 years before he is cast into the lake of fire.

Me, being poor, and aging, will have my reward in a few decades, family history holding true and SMOD excepted.

Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 12:23 PM (JTwsP)

561 Spot the democrat "Last year, former Assembly Speaker Sheldon and ex-Senate Leader Dean Skelos, R-Long Island, were convicted of corruption. Silver, a Manhattan Democrat, was found guilty of taking more than $4 million in bribes. Skelos, a Long Island Republican, was convicted of extorting payments and jobs for his son." They accidentally deleted Silvers last name and party?

Posted by: rd at January 29, 2016 12:23 PM (v0YLX)

562 If Hillary goes to prison can I get my clothes back?

Posted by: Rosa Klebb at January 29, 2016 12:23 PM (k8tEg)

563 Now I have "Mr.Sandman" stuck in my ear. - You're welcome. Posted by: The Great White Snark Ahhh. Fuckers.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 12:23 PM (SAhpk)

564

I got worse news. The Sun is going to evolve into a red giant and cook the fucking earth. We only got 4,000,000,000 years!

..............

 

That ought to be enough time to get our asses to Pluto?

Posted by: wth at January 29, 2016 12:23 PM (HgMAr)

565 542 I got worse news. The Sun is going to evolve into a red giant and cook the fucking earth. We only got 4,000,000,000 years!

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 05:20 PM (xWW96)


Seems as long as to the end of Obama's term.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 29, 2016 12:23 PM (CFc5L)

566 Say what you will about Fox, but their field reporters are outstanding: Katherine Herridge Jennifer Griffin Amy Kellogg Steve Harrigan Rick Leventhal All are real journalists. Well done, Katherine as always.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 12:23 PM (zLP1L)

567 "When it comes to weighing supporting a family vs. whistleblowing (especially considering how some whistleblowers have been treated by this admin), I don't hold out much hope anymore." This is why more forceful actions are required by those in the security community that care about this country. That oath justifies more action considering the Constitutional crisis we are in

Posted by: Grad School Fool at January 29, 2016 12:24 PM (A9KzJ)

568 Mister Sandman..... I prefer Enter Sandman by Metallica...

Posted by: donna at January 29, 2016 12:24 PM (/dSsq)

569 565 That ought to be enough time to get our asses to Pluto? Posted by: wth at January 29, 2016 05:23 PM (HgMAr) Our Mianus.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 12:24 PM (zLP1L)

570 Yeah NGU. You should do something productive with you life! Like become a doctor or something!

Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2016 12:24 PM (zt+N6)

571 Just went to Drudge who has a HUGE and very red headline about Hillary's email right next to a link to a video of Trump lying his ass off and calling Cruz an "anchor baby". A pox on both of them and I will vote for neither.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 12:25 PM (OrI3J)

572 Prison Girls VIII

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at January 29, 2016 12:25 PM (Dwehj)

573 Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 05:23 PM (JTwsP) I expect old Satan has to add another layer to hell for Soros.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 12:25 PM (xWW96)

574 Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2016 05:22 PM (osI0T)

I've read so much Sci Fi, it ALL looks derivative.

Take away the lasers and atomic rockets and you wind up with just plain fictional drama.

There have been few actual break through SciFi authors.

(at least since I was born. I was easier a hundred years ago to be cutting edge)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 29, 2016 12:25 PM (Xo1Rt)

575 OH... and for the record? the CHIEF of Naval Intelligence, and Admiral, has not been able to look at classified data for almost TWO YEARS.... How this works? I have no idea... but this is the Obama Administration...

Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 12:25 PM (f7rv6)

576 572 Just went to Drudge who has a HUGE and very red headline about Hillary's email right next to a link to a video of Trump lying his ass off and calling Cruz an "anchor baby". I really think that was a low blow...

Posted by: donna at January 29, 2016 12:26 PM (/dSsq)

577 I prefer Enter Sandman by Metallica... And Metallica thanked us by putting out ever-crappier albums until Death Magnetic.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 12:26 PM (39g3+)

578 571 guffaw!!

Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 12:26 PM (JTwsP)

579 That ought to be enough time to get our asses to Pluto? Posted by: wth at January 29, 2016 05:23 PM (HgMAr) Our Mianus. I'm not going to Uranus.

Posted by: rickb223[/s][/i][/b] at January 29, 2016 12:26 PM (SAhpk)

580 Say what you will about Fox, but their field reporters are outstanding:

Katherine Herridge
Jennifer Griffin
Amy Kellogg
Steve Harrigan
Rick Leventhal

All are real journalists.



They, and only they (along with Sharyl Atkinson), get a reprieve when the payback time comes for the rest of the treasonous, anti-American media.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 29, 2016 12:26 PM (SK7CK)

581 Can I get a flaming skull please? Catherine Herridge has been great on this, but I'm still really concerned that people don't get how bad this is outside the right-wing news bubble. It simply doesn't get reported on elsewhere. The whole situation is shocking. The leading contender for the Democratic nomination for president is under serious federal investigation and threat of indictment from a sitting Democratic administration. Yet, at most, a third of the electorate thinks this is a problem. One third is ignorant, and the last third has its head up its ass.

Posted by: gts109 at January 29, 2016 12:26 PM (KIvt1)

582 I expect old Satan has to add another layer to hell for Soros.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 05:25 PM (xWW96)

They're usually called circles.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 29, 2016 12:27 PM (Xo1Rt)

583 That fuck should have been hounded out of office when he first made that sophomoric argument so that we wouldn't have to be listening to his hag making the same. Hey, that's DRUNKEN hag to you, wingnut!!! *hic*

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at January 29, 2016 12:27 PM (8ZskC)

584 574 Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 05:23 PM (JTwsP) I expect old Satan has to add another layer to hell for Soros. Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 05:25 PM (xWW96) Only as a House to rule over... He does have Lts in Hell.... ya know...

Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 12:27 PM (f7rv6)

585 I got worse news. The Sun is going to evolve into a red giant and cook the fucking earth. We only got 4,000,000,000 years! Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 05:20 PM (xWW96) I plan on slathering everything in BBQ sauce right before that happens. ...Mmmmmm, nuclear fusion ribs. *drools*

Posted by: naturalfake at January 29, 2016 12:27 PM (0cMkb)

586 I don't read much Sci Fi but once all the masters got too old or died off, it seems like not much worth a crap has come out. For a while it was a golden age, but now?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 12:27 PM (39g3+)

587 That ought to be enough time to get our asses to Pluto? Posted by: wth at January 29, 2016 05:23 PM (HgMAr) Oh sure. NOW I get respect as a planet...

Posted by: Pluto, Former Planet, Current Planetoid at January 29, 2016 12:28 PM (8ZskC)

588 Nood. Movie Review.

Posted by: johnd01 at January 29, 2016 12:28 PM (ukNFU)

589 Oh sure. NOW I get respect as a planet...

Posted by: Pluto, Former Planet, Current Planetoid at January 29, 2016 05:28 PM (8ZskC)


You will always be a planet to me, Pluto.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 12:29 PM (OrI3J)

590 588 Oh sure. NOW I get respect as a planet... Posted by: Pluto, Former Planet, Current Planetoid at January 29, 2016 05:28 PM (8ZskC) Our luck, we'll wind up on Rigley's Pleasure Planet with that hot chick, but it will be a shape-shifting Moochelle salt sucker.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 12:30 PM (zLP1L)

591 Clean up on Aisle 556 Since NGU is too polite to put in the call.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 29, 2016 12:31 PM (Xo1Rt)

592 Sci Fi kinda crapped out in the 80's somewhere. It all became commercial sameness. The first wave of shit was cybercybercyber.

Posted by: eleven at January 29, 2016 12:32 PM (qUNWi)

593 On the other end of the science-fiction spectrum are unknown races that act as preservers.

Saw that with the Star Trek episode where Kirk gets bonked on the head and thinks he is Kirok.  Anne McCaffrey's novel Dinosaur Planet is another example.  David Brin's short story "Crystal Spheres" in the book River of Time has an unknown agency create these barriers around solar systems that prevent intelligent life from visiting, but if the natives venture out then the sphere shatters.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2016 12:33 PM (osI0T)

594 I have it made. We can walk to pluto in 266,600 years. Plenty of time.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 12:34 PM (xWW96)

595 What if these emails aren't SAP but instead QPQ (quid pro quo) and there's lots of "pay the CGI $5M and we'll approve your arms purchase" kind of emails. Because, where are those emails? And if they don't exist, then what was the pruprose of the server in the first place?

Posted by: bjk at January 29, 2016 12:36 PM (x2rNW)

596

575 - The Golden Age Trilogy by John C Wright is pretty mind blowing.

(A lot of people hate him because he converted to Catholic and is super conservative and vocal about it. Not just happy feel good  social catholic but catechism catholic).   When he wrote the trilogy he was still an atheist.  And it won a lot of accolades.  Now people hate, even before they read him.  Some people think he can do too much dialogue and philosophy but I find it interesting.     

Its a challenging read because reality with hyper technology is so different than what you are used to it is actually disorienting.   The story changes perspectives as the character's status in society declines and with less tech available to augment his reality its more relatable to a contemporary reader.   Its all very plausible science as well.    

 

 

Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 12:36 PM (JTwsP)

597 I'm sorry, officer...my porn wasn't marked "child porn" when I sent it!

Posted by: Nimrod Neebus at January 29, 2016 12:36 PM (epNav)

598 If these emails are damaging but not Top Secret, that would explain the equivocations about exactly why they're not being released or whether they were originally SAP.

Posted by: bjk at January 29, 2016 12:37 PM (x2rNW)

599

I got worse news. The Sun is going to evolve into a red giant and cook the fucking earth. We only got 4,000,000,000 years!

.....................

 

What's so bad about that? We'll all have nice tans.

Posted by: John Boehner at January 29, 2016 12:38 PM (HgMAr)

600 Hillary must be playing some game where the marked vs. unmarked distinction is important.  Someone told me Media Matters was pushing this same meme. Since David Brock is paid to tell whatever lies Hillary wants told I assume she thinks there is a firewall to be constructed somehow by making this distinction.  The State Department parrot was obviously told to emphasize the same thing. 

Usually when they are all on the same page like this a deal has been reached and the fix is in.  It only remains to be seen who the fall guy is chosen to be.  I would not want to be Huma or anyone else who has worked closely with Hillary... (I mean even more so than just for the usual reason that I am not morally bankrupt).

Posted by: Thatch at January 29, 2016 12:38 PM (pBZp4)

601

Wright also wrote short story about a fictional bar conversation he had with Harlan Ellison about why earth was never visited by aliens.  Harlan knew the answer because well, he's Harlan and knows people who know. And he told John because he was drunk, angry and thought John was an idiot.  Completely plausible.

The reason, well, I won't spoil it, but it is excellent and makes a kind of sense that would be bullet proof.

Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 12:39 PM (JTwsP)

602 That is why pretty entertaining thought to picture the State Department not being trusted with secret data for at least a generation as Hillary Clinton's legacy as Secretary of State. It makes me think of the part in the movie "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels" where Steve Martin was pretending to be Michael Caine's idiot brother who had an eye patch because he had stabbed himself in the eye with his fork so his fork had a cork stuck on the end to knew him from doing himself any more damage. I hope US diplomats will enjoy their new status as the untrusted idiot branch of government.

Posted by: obnoxious ahole at January 29, 2016 12:40 PM (MpvuV)

603 So, Obama emailed HRC on the illegal account? So, he or his minions knew?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 12:41 PM (iQIUe)

604 >>  I'm not going to Uranus.

That's what I said to Leo, but the Director had other ideas.

Posted by: The Bear at January 29, 2016 12:43 PM (ml1PM)

605 ms sec of state needs to be charged with criminal negligence for her email convenience that allowed enemies of the United States to have unfettered access to life endangering information. Dead ambassador. Also, ordering underlings to break all federal laws pertaining to classified information handling.
If she becomes President, SAP means NOTHING.

Posted by: talgus at January 29, 2016 12:44 PM (vwHnd)

606 Posted by: simplemind at January 29, 2016 05:39 PM (JTwsP)

You can't spoil a story you don't give us the title for, nimrod.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 29, 2016 12:45 PM (Xo1Rt)

607 a video of Trump lying his ass off and calling Cruz an "anchor baby"

Neither of Cruz's parents were Canadian Citizens when he was born in Canada in 1970, so in fact he was an anchor baby, unless the definition has changed or differs for babies born in the USA when neither parent is an American Citizen?

Aren't those babies referred to as "anchor babies" ?

Posted by: cind at January 29, 2016 12:51 PM (nRbbW)

608 Who do you suppose Trump would have as his AG? Chris Christie? How about SECSTATE? Chuck Norris?

Posted by: TommyTee at January 29, 2016 01:00 PM (zFXwQ)

609 criminals, all the way down from the very top

Posted by: micky at January 29, 2016 01:24 PM (LBYzV)

610 Maybe the Iran deal is blackmail to keep Iran from spilling the beans of what was exposed by Cankles ineptness.

Posted by: seamrog at January 29, 2016 01:27 PM (0F089)

611 Note that the reason they won't release the emails even in redacted form is because they fear that there are *other copies* of Hillary's email out there and someone could locate the document based only on the "shape" of the redacted text.

Posted by: rokshox at January 29, 2016 01:31 PM (Ap82b)

612


It's amazing that the vast majority of Trump Haters have such immense difficulty detecting his sarcasm. (A form of Militant Ignorance, perhaps?)
Trump calling Cruz an Anchor Baby is similar to Trump's claim that he could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th Avenue, and his supporters wouldn't abandon him.
I.e., he respects his audiences' intelligence enough to know that he's not speaking literally.

Trump's sarcastic "Anchor Baby" attack is merely a clever way of raising the Constitutionally problematic fact that Cruz is not a "natural born" citizen.





Posted by: Trump Super Fan at January 29, 2016 01:34 PM (l2dSQ)

613 So, after all these top secret emails have been flying to and fro in the clear on Hillary's homebrew server for every intelligence agency in the world to intercept, I am to understand that the only folks not allowed to read them are the American people?

Posted by: Tantor at January 29, 2016 01:35 PM (g0aRc)

614 @601 "Hillary must be playing some game where the marked vs. unmarked distinction is important." By design the government e-mail system won't let you interact with a home brew server like Hillary's for security purposes. So Hillary needed to have her people "cut and paste" to get around this. When her people forwarded things with "classified" labels they didn't include the label. So with classic chutzpah Hillary is using as an excuse what might literally be true: Nothing she got or sent was labeled classified. Hillary and her people were engaged in a purposeful conspiracy to violate many laws here. But as many here have noted, this also ties to Hillary's public corruption as Hillary had to keep the sum of all her e-mails away from prying eyes. What's not clear to your humble narrator is what's on her server that's been in the FBI's possession since July. Even if Hillary wiped it clean, much or all of it could be recovered. As part of turning over to State the e-mails that should always have been at State, Hillary had her lawyers review her server to pick the half she said she'd produce, before she said she wiped it clean. The methods used would have resulted in spoiliation charges in a civil litigation, let alone what would happened in a criminal action for tampering with evidence. We need to go scorched earth here, to make an example, else we're no longer a nation of laws. If I were Trump's AG I'd go after Sid and .... David Kendall, Hillary's lawyer at the fixer firm of Williams & Connolly if the evidence shows that what didn't get produced were e-mails that showed pay-for-play Clinton Cash. I'd go after Bill as a co-conspirator, and Chelsea too. Huma's obviously a target, praise be unto her. Don't forget that a whistleblower has already said that Cheryl was involved in a weekend long mission at State to destroy documents.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2016 01:58 PM (r1fLd)

615 It's amazing that the vast majority of Trump Haters have such immense difficulty detecting his sarcasm. (A form of Militant Ignorance, perhaps?)
Trump calling Cruz an Anchor Baby is similar to Trump's claim that he could shoot someone in broad daylight on 5th Avenue, and his supporters wouldn't abandon him.
I.e., he respects his audiences' intelligence enough to know that he's not speaking literally.

Trump's sarcastic "Anchor Baby" attack is merely a clever way of raising the Constitutionally problematic fact that Cruz is not a "natural born" citizen.

Posted by: Trump Super Fan at January 29, 2016 06:34 PM (l2dSQ)



Keep right on fucking that chicken.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 02:22 PM (NPofj)

616 Neither of Cruz's parents were Canadian Citizens when he was born in Canada in 1970, so in fact he was an anchor baby, unless the definition has changed or differs for babies born in the USA when neither parent is an American Citizen?

Aren't those babies referred to as "anchor babies" ?

Posted by: cind at January 29, 2016 05:51 PM (nRbbW)


As a point of fact, that is not the definition.



And your smarmy defense of Trump's lies says nothing good about you either.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 02:24 PM (NPofj)

617 redbanzai seems to be missing the point: Cruz was a Canadian anchor baby, as Canada is another country that recognizes that a child born to a legal non-resident is a Canadian citizen. Rubio is a US anchor baby because neither of his parents were US citizens at the time of his birth in Miami. Seriously, Trump is just having fun at Cruz's expense. Ducking out of the Fox debate helped Trump as Cruz took all the fire that would otherwise have been aimed at Trump. I hope he sent Megyn chocolates.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2016 02:40 PM (r1fLd)

618 Looking like Hillary Schlonged herself here.

Posted by: builderD at January 29, 2016 02:40 PM (sxLki)

619 redbanzai seems to be missing the point: Cruz was a Canadian anchor baby, as Canada is another country that recognizes that a child born to a legal non-resident is a Canadian citizen.

Rubio is a US anchor baby because neither of his parents were US citizens at the time of his birth in Miami.

Seriously, Trump is just having fun at Cruz's expense. Ducking out of the Fox debate helped Trump as Cruz took all the fire that would otherwise have been aimed at Trump. I hope he sent Megyn chocolates.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2016 07:40 PM (r1fLd)


As I have seen you here before, I will try to be polite. You are wrong. You are wrong about the definition of anchor baby. You are wrong about this shit being fun or funny and you are wrong in thinking that the little tinpot god you are so enamored of will do anything but harm this country.


Trump is lying and you are condoning that. In my eyes that makes you nearly as bad as he is.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 03:12 PM (NPofj)

620 And your smarmy defense of Trump's lies says nothing good about you either.


Is that suppose to leave a mark on my character? or, on yours?


I was pointing out that Cruz, born to parents that were not Canadian citizens at the time of his birth in CANADA, is in fact what is commonly referred to as an "anchor baby".
(referred to meaning in the USA, when defining 2 parents neither of which are American Citizens)


As a point of fact, that is not the definition.


My mistake, then what is the definition of "anchor baby"?

Posted by: cind at January 29, 2016 03:14 PM (nRbbW)

621 Someone is getting a little touchy, no?

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2016 03:21 PM (r1fLd)

622 I'd sure like to see a Venn Diagram of "nations that donated to Clinton or Clinton Foundation" and "nations benefiting from access to secret shit on Hillary's server".

Posted by: Michael Haz at January 29, 2016 03:25 PM (x9jNY)

623 <i>As I have seen you here before, I will try to be polite.</i>


I have read this blog every day since 2004, Rum was Goddess then.

It's this condescending tone of blog ownership that insures that "lurkers" stay in the rafters if they have ANY opposing opinions.

I did not defend Trump. That was your assumption, which was wrong.

Posted by: cind at January 29, 2016 03:28 PM (nRbbW)

624 When is a secret not a secret? What is really funny about all of this is if something is so secret nobody is allowed to read it or discuss it, how can anybody ever know if revealing the information is a crime? It's like trying to prosecute a murderer without a weapon or without evidence of a dead or missing person. It sounds like some kind of absurd skit. "We charge you with revealing something but we cannot talk about what that something is."

Posted by: Ficklefinger at January 29, 2016 03:57 PM (0ed6d)

625 623 I'd sure like to see a Venn Diagram of "nations that donated to Clinton or Clinton Foundation" and "nations benefiting from access to secret shit on Hillary's server". This! But I'm sure there's one active right now on some FBI white board.

Posted by: Oldbuffalo at January 29, 2016 04:02 PM (/pOl7)

626 I don't know if it's been discussed here but Fox really put an unfair hit on Cruz by claiming he supported the Gang of 8 bill when he was actually trying to sabotage it. Fox even used teed up misleading videotape. So Megyn is as bad as Crowley, but better at. And Rubio shows what a slimy weasel he is by playing along with it

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2016 04:08 PM (3+Dh1)

627 I meant to say better to look at. Although I'm not sure I like Megyn's new look as Ilsa the Nazi She Devil. Maybe she wants to be in the next Quarantino flick To be a fly on the wall at Fox News HQ! To be a fly on the wall inside the Clinton bunker!

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2016 04:13 PM (3+Dh1)

628 Hillary must be playing some game where the marked vs. unmarked distinction is important.
------------------------------

Good luck to her. My Ford Taurus doesn't have the word "car" stamped on it. That doesn't mean the thing I drive isn't a car.

Posted by: iforgot at January 29, 2016 04:24 PM (YOxw1)

629 About that Venn diagram. Over 1000 donors to the Chelsea Legacy Foundation were funelled through a BC Canada affiliate. The Clinton claim that BC law precludes disclosure, which is BS. Amazingly this Canadian affiliate involves this guy Giustra who's a principal in the deal where 50% of the entire US uranium supply got sold to a bunch of Russians. As a strategi deal this statutorily required Hillarys sign off as SoS We already know that Bill got a contemporaneous $700k speaking fee from a related Russian bank

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2016 04:24 PM (3+Dh1)

630 It's
this condescending tone of blog ownership that insures that "lurkers"
stay in the rafters if they have ANY opposing opinions.

I did not defend Trump. That was your assumption, which was wrong.

Posted by: cind at January 29, 2016 08:28 PM (nRbbW)


First, I don't claim any ownership of this blog (nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn last night) And you don't know the filth that was about to pop out of my keyboard before I reminded myself to be civil and retyped my post.



Second, you very much did defend Trump and you were an apologist for his blatant lies.

Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 05:03 PM (NPofj)

631 "22 emails are too top secret to release..." Seems like 22 reasons for a firing squad. Nah, that would make it to respectable. She should be hung like a common war criminal.

Posted by: Braden Lynch at January 29, 2016 09:09 PM (pRnlX)

632 Wait a minute, "too damaging"? Too damaging to whom? To national interest? To national security? That damage has already been done, the info has already been broadcast "in the clear". Any info is already freely available to any foreign nation and/or hostile actor who wants it. No, more probably it is "too damaging" to Hillary Rodham Clinton, my guess is those "damaging" emails depict a direct quid pro quo of HRC selling her office for donations to the CGI. How much do you wanna bet?

Posted by: MJMotley at January 30, 2016 01:32 AM (egpVu)

633 These Hilariously E-lusive E-mails are aiming to keep us all E-ngorged with E-njoyment over the coming months ... or years, which is, let's face it, according to the E-polls, quite a bit more likely.

Posted by: E-lroy the Human E-server at January 30, 2016 01:50 AM (lqeGC)

634 We called it air-gapping or moving classified information to another network system.  Air-gapping was illegal then as it is now.  NMCI the Navy/Marine Corps Enterprise actually disabled ports which prevented the use of thumbdrives to load or unload information, partly because of the potential to "spill" information into unclassified or lower classified networks.  This was on both NIPR (Unclass) and SIPR (Secret), and specific tactical networks established for coalition or bilateral information sharing.   

The process is very simple, copy and paste info into a txt or word document, delete markings, save to a thumbdrive or disk, move to another network, open and save...paste to email and send.  Hell, there is an email where she directs that a product is "edited" to email if it can't be sent by classified fax.  For those who argue she had the ability to declassify information, that was limited only to intelligence and information produced by the Department of State, where she was the Classifying Authority.  Information from any other agency required the approval and sanitation by the originator.

The last lie, none of the information is ever classified "later".  The very systems and processes, more than the information determines its classification.  Source is always more important.  No agency looks at a product and suggests that they should increase the classification.  To make the information more useful, the intent is to sanitize and fuze it in with other products to build a more complete picture and blur the method the info was collected.

Had I accidentally mishandled classified information, it is likely that I would not hold a clearance, nor would I have been allowed to retire at the lofty heights that I attained in my 30 year Marine Corps career.  Had I deliberately conducted myself this way, my 30 year career would have been as Private at the midwest Hilton, Correctional Barracks, Fort Leavenworth. 

Rant off...normal lurker...back to your normal smack talking...
Semper Fi, Crusty


 

 

Posted by: Crusty at January 30, 2016 07:29 AM (BzvyJ)

635 Ask Snowden

Posted by: Vince Foster at January 30, 2016 07:57 AM (uNpJu)

636 I'm not sure how Hillary's strange defense... which is why the spokesman refused to acknowledge the truth... she needs some defense in court and that's all she's got. What that has to do with Cruz and Rubio's status as natural born... well maybe I do, Rubio... no doubt is natural born, why would anyone bring it up unless they are using a subtle xenophobia dog whistle? But Cruz? That's different. If he were a Democrat, every single person here would say it is a question that needs clarified. What is the definition? He was born in Canada for sure, not on a military base, but his mother was an expatriot married to a non-citizen... it is different than any other situation we have yet faced. Pretending it isn't an issue, does the same thing Hillary is doing... there are probably people that fully believe that Hillary did not break any laws, that the system is treating her unfairly, that of course a person of Hillary's power and position can do whatever they want, they can't be charged... The rationalization of Cruz's natural born status and Hillary's email is close to the same motive for rationalizing real issues we wish would go away. Of course Cruz is a natural born citizen, because in his mind he is. I don't think that is the criteria. I don't know the legalities... but the General election is too important to risk disqualifying our candidate because of a legal ruling after the nomination. Get the issue settled! He should have done that first thing!!! It's very arrogant that he didn't.

Posted by: petunia at January 30, 2016 08:21 AM (VoCyE)

637 See BS tonight, which I almost never watch, described the Naked Emails as "CLINTON'S PRIVATE EMAILS," which makes them sound like they're her little messages about going to the mall or something.

Lyin' sacks of fertilizer. I changed the station to the Donna Reed Show.

Posted by: Beverly at January 30, 2016 02:51 PM (NSfgM)

638 I'm still waiting for someone to ask the question, what is the duty of a classification officer in the State Department when they see obviously secret documents misclassified and mishandled on open systems. The press secretary can't duck that. It's established policy and likely a sensible one stating that you upgrade the classification as soon as you see it and get it off nonsecure systems. If the press secretary doesn't say that, we have a scandal that takes down not only Clinton but Kerry. If the press secretary does give a straightforward explanation of policy, then the followup is just verifying Secretary Clinton's status as a classification officer and we're done. 2+2=4 even for low information voters. Secretary Clinton was the US State Department's top classification officer, designated by executive order from President Obama.

Posted by: TMLutas at January 30, 2016 08:45 PM (1G4hG)

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