May 31, 2011

If the Conservative Media Wants To Bury This Too, Congratulations, You're About To Win
— Ace

I'm spinning this off into a main post. If I'm going to call people out, I should do it prominently.

This is my problem.

Some people took some chances and developed this story and kept it alive and discovered stuff and advanced it.

And now, the story is all but proven. Did you see Weiner saying he was "loathe" to pursue this?

That happened. That wasn't a dream.

And yet even still we are getting the brush-off from the establishment voices of the conservative press.

Yesterday I had to talk to a friend, another blogger covering this, who was feeling nervous and upset and exposed on this. I had to give him a little bucking up.

That was our weekend.

How was yours?

Now that the weekend is over, can we stop with this CYA bullshit?

You don't need to claim you know the answers.

How about this-- does the evidence lean in a certain direction?

Can we stop the almost monolithic conservative establishment press embargo?

Do we get to take off some time now, or are we expected to continue to be the only ones covering this?

With no encouragement, no congratulations, no support, and no approval?'

Oh and by the way the Make Believe Media is reading into this reluctance the go-ahead to embargo it, too, which is what they desperately wish to do.

They know he's lying-- but they have decided the best course of action is to wait for smoking gun, absolutely unchallengeable proof, which is a very sweet standard for Representative WeinerShot.

And with the entirety of the conservative establishment press cheerleading the liberal press on not covering this, you guys are all enabling them to bury it.

I don't get it.

I just don't get it.

Honestly: If you have questions, if you need to be caught-up, write to me, I'll answer them.

I am answering questions for liberal-leaning media outlets which seem more interested in this than our conservative press.

I hate calling people out, and I have avoided it, but does anyone at National Review read the news besides Jonah Goldberg? Update: And the indespensible Jim Geraghty, who did a lot on this in his Monday Morning Jolt.

How about the Weekly Standard? Love you guys, but we who've been covering this are becoming extremely unfond of your absence. Is this to be the extent of The Weekly Standard's coverage?

What the hell is going on?

If you guys have some reason to believe this is fake -- an opinion not shared, by the way, in the liberal media -- please tell us so so that we do not further expose and embarrass ourselves.

And if you don't -- STOP THE EMBARGO.


We're Used To... embargoes from the liberal media establishment.

Having to fight the conservative establishment media establishment is one too many fights for me.

I was informed by a reporter that the story could only get cooking on Tuesday, when DC came back to work, and so I thought if we kept the story going by today the cavalry would come in.

But there is no cavalry. Still the same twenty bloggers covering it.

If you want the story to be buried, it will be buried, because I think I speak for a lot of us in saying we're about to give up. It's one thing to get the finger from the liberal media; it's another thing to get it from our most prominent champions.

If there's some reason the conservative press wants to run interference for the noxious anteater Anthony Weiner, fine, you're about to win.

We did our part.

Edited: I had a freak-out and threw a guy I know a little and like a lot under the bus.

A subsequent post notes that Goulding was addressing only the question of the technical side of things, not the circumstantial case, and that his conclusions were limited to the technical side. As he found the technical case did not prove one thing or another, he limited himself to that conclusion.

I have apologized to Nathan Goulding by email.


Posted by: Ace at 10:53 AM | Comments (308)
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1 Now you know how the birthers feel.

Posted by: doug at May 31, 2011 10:55 AM (Lf1Ga)

2 It's a common flaw among conservatives - a reluctance to go for blood.  Some call it civility.  I call it cowardice.

Posted by: Reactionary at May 31, 2011 10:55 AM (xUM1Q)

3 FIRST!!!! SUCK IT ACE!!!!!!!

Posted by: Cookie King at May 31, 2011 10:55 AM (pEcs2)

4 Weiner will be joining OJ Simpson in order to find the real criminals.

Posted by: Jack at May 31, 2011 10:56 AM (kCT7A)

5 The Weekly Standard is not "conservative media". They are NE country club Republican media.  They are the epitome of the neocons.

Posted by: Vic at May 31, 2011 10:56 AM (M9Ie6)

6 So the narrative has been settled?. It seems counterproductive, but alrighty then!

Posted by: Journolist at May 31, 2011 10:56 AM (FS/bn)

7 oh get real doug. Fucking whining that no one will buy into your crazy-shit theories. Cry me a fucking river.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2011 10:56 AM (nj1bB)

8 Start naming names.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 31, 2011 10:56 AM (k0TKJ)

9 Weiner could never be running mates with some one named Johnson.

Posted by: Jack at May 31, 2011 10:57 AM (kCT7A)

10

Kinda like ACORN...

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2011 10:57 AM (gM4zK)

11 My guess is that the "conservative media" will indeed say that this story is "irrelevant" and "unimportant," which is why they are ignoring it.

However, if this was a Republican.... both sides of the aisle would be screaming.

Liberal media because it was a Republican.

Conservative media because they don't want to be seen as "covering up a scandal" by liberal media.

Posted by: Logic at May 31, 2011 10:57 AM (eeGvE)

12 3 FIRST!!!! SUCK IT ACE!!!!!!!

This makes me laugh every time. 

POST FAIL

Posted by: toby928™ at May 31, 2011 10:57 AM (GTbGH)

13 The conservative media has always been squishy. Look at what they let happen to Palin.

Fuck 'em

Posted by: beedubya at May 31, 2011 10:57 AM (AnTyA)

14 Hilarious tweet:

RT @jimgeraghty Weiner declines to answer scandal qs,says,"I'm going to go back to work now,"then stands there,waiting 4 more qs #weinergate

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at May 31, 2011 10:57 AM (PK7oq)

15 I mean, I have to go to dinner parties with these people. I wouldn't want a scandal to get in the way of the conversation.

Posted by: Bill Kristol, Beltway guy at May 31, 2011 10:57 AM (RD7QR)

16 Isn't the fact that we have a weiner scandal about a guy named Weiner who happens to be a complete dick but is acting like an total pussy supposed to be the Seventh Sign of the Apocalypse?

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at May 31, 2011 10:58 AM (Er/am)

17 /shrugs

Alrighty then.  Have at it.  I may not be able to get my dander up on this one, but if you think it's a Good Fight, by all means dig in.

I'm just worried it's distracting us from something else, is all.  All Weiner All The Time ain't my bag...

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 31, 2011 10:58 AM (GBXon)

18 Melissa Clouthier tweets was too much.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 31, 2011 10:58 AM (k0TKJ)

19 1 Now you know how the birthers feel.

The birthers feel with their hands in their pockets.

Posted by: Patrick S at May 31, 2011 10:58 AM (WOj45)

20 Don't mean to be a dick...but it's "loath"...no "E"

Posted by: beedubya at May 31, 2011 10:59 AM (AnTyA)

21 I think Daily Caller deserves some props for staying on the story and getting some good material, like 4 times no answer if picture is Weiner.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at May 31, 2011 10:59 AM (PK7oq)

22 I've been following Weinergate on Google News. On day one, the first time I checked there were less than 20 references to it if you searched "Anthony Weiner." By day two it jumped to 37 then to 46 then to the 60s. One day three it hit triple digits. Yesterday it hit the mid 200s and then 300. Today I checked and there were 450 or so articles on Weinergate. I just checked and now there are 667 hits. So be not discouraged, Ace. The media, all of it including so-called conservative media, is like that crowd of beach-goers in "Jaws." They're waiting for someone else to go into the water. And you did. And now, one by one they are finding cover to enter. I predict by tomorrow we'll see over 1000 stories on Google News dedicated to our favorite Underwear Tweeter.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at May 31, 2011 10:59 AM (qBKEb)

23

I don't fault the conservative media not wanting to plant thier flag in cock.

There are plenty of other issues to persue the Democrat party on that don't involve handing Jon Stewart GOP Dick jokes for the next 6 months.

 

That is all.

 

 

Posted by: Thune at May 31, 2011 10:59 AM (fnJX1)

24 Go get em Ace. I don't know hoe this will end but you are certainly doing the right things.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at May 31, 2011 11:00 AM (NtTkA)

25
Don't mean to be a dick...but it's "loath"...no "E"

Shut it, concerned grammar troll!

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2011 11:00 AM (gM4zK)

26 Just had a small convo with @GennetteC, who refuses to answer whether or not she and Rep. Weiner had ever DM'd.

Seems a simple question. She refuses to answer. Someone needs to ask Rep. Weiner.

Posted by: Nick at May 31, 2011 11:00 AM (LtjBB)

27 This is only news if you have an R in front of your name.

Posted by: The MFM at May 31, 2011 11:00 AM (uxQI0)

28

I kind of wish Weiner was a Republican because the liberal media would have so much fun with Weinergate and Weiner's Weiner puns. 

 

Posted by: california red at May 31, 2011 11:01 AM (7uWb8)

29 If Republicans were as good at politics as liberals pretend we are when they're crying crocodile tears on MSNBC, we'd never lose an election.


Posted by: Lauren at May 31, 2011 11:01 AM (Ekb01)

30 NO. This is the time the damn conservative netroots drives the fucking narrative. Hannity? Rush? Beck?  The rest of the "Talkers"?  They are now part of the old and busted OLD MEDIA!

That fucking scumbag Weiner did worse then got Republican's...who _also_ stepped over the line...bounced out of office.  As should he.

If the new, conservative media can't get this done then we might as well give it up because then we are the ones who are the lapdogs of the beltway insiders.

It was funny before but now the New Conservative Media has to be the fucking honey badger. Screw the "conservative" icons that pass on this. Fuck them with Satan's barbed cocks.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at May 31, 2011 11:01 AM (BcsLx)

31 Fox News covered it prominently late this morning. They showed the picture, full screen.

Posted by: PF at May 31, 2011 11:01 AM (2WeRB)

32 That was our weekend. How was yours? Well, it was REALLY hot and I got sunburn and...oh. Sorry.

Posted by: joncelli at May 31, 2011 11:01 AM (RD7QR)

33 Just saw his response to CNN and he is squirming, stalling and obfuscating. In other words, Weiner is LYING about this. Is the nature of what happened earth-shaking? Debatable. Is obviously lying about it and trying to cover the whole thing up something that is newsworthy? You bet your ass it is.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2011 11:01 AM (UlUS4)

34 Must be that everyone is now taking their cues from Drudge.  Maybe the answer lies with the Drudge ...

Posted by: Nomennovum at May 31, 2011 11:01 AM (pV1Y8)

35
Isn't the fact that we have a weiner scandal about a guy named Weiner who happens to be a complete dick but is acting like an total pussy supposed to be the Seventh Sign of the Apocalypse?

I think I see where you're going with this.

/nods in earnest

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2011 11:01 AM (gM4zK)

36 What do you mean the House should investigate one of its members.  No way.  Don't like the optics.

Posted by: House Speaker John Boned at May 31, 2011 11:02 AM (K/USr)

37

If there's some reason the conservative press wants to run interference for the noxious anteater Anthony Weiner, fine, you're about to win.

Posted by: Ace at 03:53 PM   He's uncircumcised? 

Posted by: Insomniac at May 31, 2011 11:02 AM (v+QvA)

38 Most, not all, of the conservative media has a far different idea of what conservatism is when compared to what many of us think. Many of them like and respect Weiner, while they dislike us, the rank and file unwashed masses. We are stupid and not sophisticated enough to understand the issues and problems facing us. Weiner is seen by these conservative elites as "serious" even if they disagree with him. They ignore his lies and demagoguery, because he is one of them. A member of the gilded elite. Again, most, but not all do this. It goes without saying but can you imagine if there was this much smoke and fire around a well known Republican or Conservative in Government? The news media would be running with it non stop.

Posted by: Dan at May 31, 2011 11:02 AM (mXBxH)

39

-- does the evidence lean in a certain direction

Its so small, its hard to tell which way its leaning.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 31, 2011 11:02 AM (cniXs)

40 you know, Paula Jones claimed Bill Clinton showed her his weiner and it almost brought down his presidency. There's a lesson for us all, and I'm sure Brooks or Coddington van Voorhees the 27th will explain to us why the conservative media should ignore this story and instead worry if Palin is going to run for president instead of letting John McCain have another go at it.You can have two strikes and still get a shot at hitting a home run.

Posted by: mallfly at May 31, 2011 11:02 AM (bJm7W)

41 191, I guess you don't know shit about birthers do you smartass. We cut the pockets out of our pants so we can grab directly. So there, Mr. Knowitall.

Posted by: Average Birther at May 31, 2011 11:02 AM (NtTkA)

42 Caution: they are in full "holier than thou" mode!
Of NO value...but that's the same as RINO

Posted by: NfromNC at May 31, 2011 11:02 AM (kR57Q)

43 Another thing to remember, is main stream media, even conservatives, are totally illiterate morons when a story is more complex than dog bites man. That this has a technical component they don't grasp they just want to ignore it too - or just misreport.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at May 31, 2011 11:02 AM (PK7oq)

44 What some of you are missing is that this isn't about schadenfreude (well, there is that) and it isn't about payback (and there is that too). It's about a liar. The left lies to us and we have to take it because there's no way or time or venue to disprove 1/100th of them. But this one has legs (three of them, in a sense). We have caught a lefty liar. We have to expose him (in a manner of speaking).

Posted by: MaxMBJ at May 31, 2011 11:02 AM (qBKEb)

45 You are not obliged to fight fair . If you want to win of course. So the Libs try to force us to act civil, while they don't. Fuck em all, not time to quit, time to knock them all down.

Posted by: mbruce at May 31, 2011 11:03 AM (Fr8N6)

46 >>>I'm just worried it's distracting us from something else, is all. All Weiner All The Time ain't my bag... I completely understand that. It's not my bag either. Hence, my desire for other people to fucking write about it.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2011 11:03 AM (nj1bB)

47
wow this is like a rerun of the thread I just came from

/deja vu squiggly lines

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2011 11:03 AM (gM4zK)

48
I am hopeful that tonight's late night Talk Shows will all have jokes written about WeinerGate, thus getting it out in the public eye more. How can they resist?

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 31, 2011 11:03 AM (bAySe)

49 The reason why there should be a pile on the Weiner story is to destroy his reputation, his family, and his marriage. Oh, and his political career.

That is what the MSM does to republicans and conservatives and it is time the democrats started to appreciate the ramifications of the politics of personal destruction.It is time they started to understand that we will use the same tactics they use, and use them to better effect.

It is time to make liberals suffer the consequences of their own actions.   The first step?  Make gated communities illegal.




Posted by: Jack at May 31, 2011 11:03 AM (kCT7A)

50
I think this is all hangover effect from the Clinton impeachment.

The Donks nailed home the "address the issues, not the personal politics of destruction" bit so well, that it is still hanging around in the minds of conservatives who wish to be taken seriously. 

And I get that.  Honestly, I am more interested in calling out the MSM for the embargo and double standards on this story that I am interested in calling out Weiner himself for the action.  If the guy didn't do it, he probably wishes he did.  If you can't look at the guy and immediately tell that he is a grade-A douchebag, then something is wrong with you.

Posted by: dan-O at May 31, 2011 11:03 AM (bRLuD)

51 And by the way, if it takes something like this to get one of the most combative, strident, hard-left liberal gas bags the hell out of Congress, then so be it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 31, 2011 11:03 AM (UlUS4)

52

Ace, how is the NY Daily Post handling this? Usually they love a wiener story.  

Posted by: Sub-tard at May 31, 2011 11:04 AM (fy8R6)

53 Go check out HA if you want a little vomit in your mouth

Posted by: NfromNC at May 31, 2011 11:04 AM (kR57Q)

54 I've had my staff look into it and they say there's nothing to it. The Congressman says he was hacked and that's good enough for me. If someone has evidence otherwise they should come forward but right now it's case closed. Ideology and gossip have no place on the Factor.

Posted by: Bill O'Reilly at May 31, 2011 11:04 AM (bN5ZU)

55 Come on, conservative media. Show us where the bad man touched you.

Posted by: Psychologist With a Doll at May 31, 2011 11:04 AM (LHFI6)

56 We can haz weiner roast?

Posted by: The Catz at May 31, 2011 11:04 AM (FS/bn)

57 When I do a Bing search for "anthony Weiner", this story comprises a majority of the hits. It says CBS, Fox News, The Wall Street Journal, and other outlets have covered it. Goldberg and Goulding have written pieces on NRO but it frankly isn't much. So that's interesting that the lib and moderate outfits have spent more time of this, even if it is to blame "those evil wingnuts".

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 31, 2011 11:05 AM (CLYmB)

58 I can only assume there are a lot of men in the conservative press who fear they are one misplaced mouse click away from sending a picture of their junk into the public sphere, rather than to a particular person.

Posted by: MayBee at May 31, 2011 11:05 AM (PLixr)

59 It's the joooos fault ...

Posted by: Honey Badger at May 31, 2011 11:05 AM (GvYeG)

60 Yeah, this is tiresome. Sure, I'd rather we win the political argument intellectually....but- In this environment, which the Democrats/MBM created, not covering Weinergate is simple surrender. If we have a chance to muddy a prominent Dim, through his own actions, then we should. There is a real, actual creepy Culture of Corruption surrounding Obama and the Dims. Part of winning and winning big in the next election is convincing the American public at large of this. So, this isn't just a wiener story...it's part and parcel of the out-of-touch, arrogant, creepy stupid corruptocrats which make up the Democrat Party.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 31, 2011 11:05 AM (jkSbV)

61 wow this is like a rerun of the thread I just came from

Was it the same thread?

Posted by: trinity at May 31, 2011 11:05 AM (GTbGH)

62 You guys still obsessed over a dick pic?

Face it -- Weiner's skating. He'll get away with worse than has ruined the careers of conservatives. And the professional conservative press will let it happen, because they won't give up the cash they get from appearances and columns in the MSM.

That's life.

Move on.

Let go of the dick pic. Release the cock. It's over.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 31, 2011 11:05 AM (IuKAf)

63 Ace, you're doing a fantastic job on this. I followed you all weekend here and on twitter. I laughed, I cried laughing and had a horrible case of diarrhea, which tells me my ass was laughing, too. Double standards suck, but to be able overcome them, along with beating them on top of it all will be a glorious and fruitful and you will have an unparalleled satisfaction, kind of like my colon.

Posted by: The Great and Secret Show at May 31, 2011 11:05 AM (cOpxE)

64 After all the shit he put Beck through over his sponsers, I can't believe Beck isn't beating him like a rented mule.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at May 31, 2011 11:06 AM (NtTkA)

65

BTW,  I'd love, looooove to see a Body Language segement on O'Reily about Weiner's press conference today.  That Tanya girl can probably spot the tell tale signs he is lying.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 31, 2011 11:06 AM (bAySe)

66 Now you know how the birthers feel.

Posted by: doug at May 31, 2011 03:55 PM (Lf1Ga)

For real? Is this serious? Are you retarded?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 31, 2011 11:06 AM (LH6ir)

67 Twitter Policy :
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Posted by: Dr Spank at May 31, 2011 11:06 AM (k0TKJ)

68 "Noxious anteater"- dang, assuming there's an NFL season you just gave me my fantasy football team name.

Thanks, Ace!

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at May 31, 2011 11:06 AM (XyjRQ)

69

btw, remember a couple of weeks when we were talking about that self-righteous prick Larry O'Donnell and I said "show me a pure holier-than-thou Leftist and I'll show you a pervert with skeletons in his closet?"

Well, Anthony Weiner always felt he could treat Republicans like shit because he was righteous. Now he's exposed as the little twist he really is.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2011 11:06 AM (gM4zK)

70 The real core issue here?

We have a dominant media culture that propagandizes for one political side and demonizes the other.  And the supposed balancing counter-media cowtow to seek their approval.

The 'hacking' story is blatant BS-- why should Weiner skate when numerous GOP pols have ended their careers over similar or lesser shit?

Posted by: nickless at May 31, 2011 11:07 AM (MMC8r)

71 Ace if you got to hang out in the green room and have coffee, or really desired too, I think you would understand what is going on here. Of course that only goes from most. As for Allah and Ed? They're just complete pussys.

Posted by: Rocks at May 31, 2011 11:07 AM (Q1lie)

72 Every time Weiner makes a statement to anyone in the press it should now be followed with, "Is that as true as your claim to have been #hacked?"

Posted by: Passably Affable at May 31, 2011 11:07 AM (2Ukpz)

73 More Twitter Policy :
Law and Harm: We may disclose your information if we believe that it is reasonably necessary to comply with a law, regulation or legal request; to protect the safety of any person; to address fraud, security or technical issues; or to protect Twitter's rights or property.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 31, 2011 11:07 AM (k0TKJ)

74 Oh, and in anticipation of the savaging I'll receive from those who can't get enough dick pics:

I have no doubt that in due time we'll find out that he took the picture, he sent the picture, and that between public appearances as a beard, he's boinking every coed dumb enough to let him -- and maybe a few that don't.


Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 31, 2011 11:08 AM (IuKAf)

75 Whoever wrote that post up on The Corner right now?  That is some naive bullshit.

"Her statement rings true"

You know what else rings true? Some random chick on Twitter sexting a congressman through DMs and having mutual online sexually explicit flirting.  And I would bet my entire 401K that if I could look at Weiner's DMs I would find a rather large collection of those 91 folks he follows are getting similar DMs.

They even have a term for what Weiner did on Twitter, "DMFail".

Occam's Razor, people, Occam's Razor.  He's been trading DMs with this girl for a fairly long time, he even puts out public non-sequitors to let her know that he is thinking about her, without publicly admitting, he goes to DM her from his Blackberry with a cock shot, hits "reply" instead of "private" and then goes into spin mode, because he can delete it fast enough to defeat thousands of followers and the Congressional retweet service.

Any other explanation is just spin.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 31, 2011 11:08 AM (rAoOH)

76 Every time Weiner makes a statement to anyone in the press it should now be followed with, "Is that as true as your claim to have been #hacked?"

Or do that to everything he posts on Twatter: "Is this Weiner or the weinerhacker?"

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 31, 2011 11:08 AM (IuKAf)

77 Perhaps it is a case of glass houses and stones. Maybe this is a more widespread practice in DC than we think. I'm looking at you, Hannity.

Posted by: hobgoblin at May 31, 2011 11:09 AM (+Bs97)

78
Was it the same thread?

Yes. But in an alternate universe where I made interesting commentary.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2011 11:09 AM (gM4zK)

79
I'm talkin' morning, day, night, afternoon...

dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick!

How many "dicks" is that?

A lot.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at May 31, 2011 11:09 AM (LHFI6)

80 But here's the beauty part: every time he runs for something this will come back. Hell, even his Democratic opponents, make that especially his Democratic opponents will fry him on this in a primary, even if they have to use a surrogate (us) to keep their hands, um, clean. Hillary started the birther thing, and that Barry is a secret Muslim; and she or another Dem (forgot who) secretly put out the dope on John Edwards. This weiner will rise again.

Posted by: DSK at May 31, 2011 11:09 AM (1ha9G)

81 "I can only assume there are a lot of men in the conservative press who fear they are one misplaced mouse click away from sending a picture of their junk into the public sphere, rather than to a particular person."

Y'all ain't kiddin'.

Posted by: Brett Farveruh, out swampin' at May 31, 2011 11:09 AM (XyjRQ)

82 Heck just say it might also have been sent to Bristol Palin's old friend , that would get them going.

Posted by: willow at May 31, 2011 11:10 AM (h+qn8)

83 Anyone think that if Paul Ryan were at the center of this story rather than Anthony Weiner, the media (mainstream, conservative or otherwise) would be taking a pass on it?


Posted by: mama winger at May 31, 2011 11:10 AM (KDX07)

84 I don't generally subscribe to the gender card, but my immediate thought is that the reason "the media" are not pursuing this is that they have something to hide.  And, it occurs to me that most of "the media" - especially the ones who control the stories - are men.  I bet they all have cell phones AND penises. 

So I would recommend you try to get someone like Greta van Sustern to pick this up.  I mean, contact her specifically and give her some of your research and see if she'll run with it. 

Or maybe that Megyn Kelly gal (although Greta seems to have more clout to me 'cause she has her own show). 

Or Ann Coulter. 

Try the ladies, ace.  I bet they don't have dicky pictures floating around the intertubes. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 31, 2011 11:10 AM (pW2o8)

85 Hehe you just said conservative "member".

Posted by: Mr Pink at May 31, 2011 11:10 AM (uxQI0)

86 Macaca

Posted by: The Guy Who Says "Macaca" and Becomes a National Villain at May 31, 2011 11:10 AM (LHFI6)

87
I concur with my chum Nickless.

And just to add to the point: If Bristol Palin farts...it's a news story on Good Morning America.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2011 11:10 AM (gM4zK)

88 Now, now.  Representative Weiner is a fine man whom I am proud to work with.  I am fully willing to speak to the character of Representative Weiner. 

Posted by: John Boehner at May 31, 2011 11:11 AM (TpXEI)

89 WEINERPALOOZA!!!!!!

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at May 31, 2011 11:11 AM (NtTkA)

90 "This weiner will rise again."

Don't get cocky, kid.

Posted by: Zombie Han Solo at May 31, 2011 11:11 AM (XyjRQ)

91

You would think the conservative media would have some fun with this, especially because Wiener seems to enjoy mocking and taunting conservatives. But I am not losing any money by no longer subscribing to NR and WS. These idiots tut-tut the stupid by Rs but won't even go that far with a D. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought we were in a fight for our country. Too bad the prissy grammarians can't bring themselves to even throw a spitball.

OT: Now that even David Mamet has weighed in on the Prius, I must point out that the older models are ugly but the 2010-2011 have sharper lines. We use ours to penetrate enemy territory in Oregon and even the bike fascists waive hello. But after both Moron and Mamet comments I told the daughter she could no longer call it the Lady Bug. Henceforth, it is the Honey Badger because, you know . . .

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at May 31, 2011 11:11 AM (qwK3S)

92 Conservative media is embargoing the story because ...

THEY ALL DO THE SAME THING.

Occam's Razor is sharper than Occam's Butterknife.

A mutual back-scratching, or cover-up. You know all those guys did the same or worse.

Posted by: whiskey at May 31, 2011 11:12 AM (L03mw)

93 83 Anyone think that if Paul Ryan were at the center of this story rather than Anthony Weiner, the media (mainstream, conservative or otherwise) would be taking a pass on it?

Based on Ryan's ability to stand up to - and take down - Obama, I'd say if the story involved him we'd be talking about wide-angle lenses, simply to fit his mighty balls in the pix. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 31, 2011 11:12 AM (pW2o8)

94

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 31, 2011 04:07 PM (k0TKJ)


so Dr. Spank, in other words, if twitter independently detected a hack of Weiner's account they could notify authorities w/out Weiner's knowledge- or rather - without his consent?

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at May 31, 2011 11:13 AM (PK7oq)

95 My friends, I assure you there is nothing to fear from a Weiner yfrog account.

Posted by: John McCain at May 31, 2011 11:13 AM (LHFI6)

96 64 After all the shit he put Beck through over his sponsers, I can't believe Beck isn't beating him like a rented mule.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at May 31, 2011 04:06 PM (NtTkA)

Sadly, Ditto...in both senses of the word.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at May 31, 2011 11:13 AM (BcsLx)

97 >>you know, Paula Jones claimed Bill Clinton showed her his weiner and it almost brought down his presidency. Gotta disagree with you. The msm went on offense against Paula Jones and tried to paint her as a gold digging trailer trash. Clinton was never in real trouble over her or even Juanita Broaddrick and he flat out raped her. He got hurt bad by the Lewinski thing but that was about his eighth strike and he did it to his intern in the Oval Office and the msm still tried to pretend it was a private sexual matter between consenting adults. Liberals can eat a live baby on national TV and nobody in the msm blinks. A Republican gets a parking ticket and the msm treats it as a death sentence crime.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2011 11:13 AM (TMB3S)

98 Suck it Bagger's. We've got Karl Rove on all day.

Posted by: Fair & Balanced Network at May 31, 2011 11:14 AM (EL+OC)

99 Weiner thinks he's brave for returning to the issues at hand:

Lets remember that the debt limit vote is to continue to pay the BUSH debt.

Let's hope the markets get this gop debtlimit stunt
So he suddenly became less combative over the weekend-- which is highly unusual for him-- and is now trying to pretend nothing happened. How convenient.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 31, 2011 11:14 AM (CLYmB)

100 98, And he won't rest until Jeb Fucking Bush is in the whitehouse.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at May 31, 2011 11:15 AM (NtTkA)

101 That's what she said.

Posted by: Mr Pink at May 31, 2011 11:15 AM (uxQI0)

102 Another reason the media have to shut it down is  that it raises the question about Weiner's marriage being a politically-arranged sham and Hillary being a lesbian.

Posted by: nickless at May 31, 2011 11:15 AM (MMC8r)

103 Posted by: Topsecretk9

I believe they could take action on their own, if they wanted to. It might require twitter users raising a stink.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 31, 2011 11:15 AM (k0TKJ)

104
and who was it, the LAT or the NYT, who thought it was very important to let everyone know that a "a source" overheard John McCain  call Cindy a c?

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2011 11:15 AM (gM4zK)

105

Doing my Karnak the Great gig here: "WTF is taking so long with the Edwards thing - can't you do something like right this fucking afternoon??! Capice?"

Opens envelope and reads: "Message left by one A. Weiner on AG Holder's voicemail."

Posted by: sherlock at May 31, 2011 11:16 AM (BaQuW)

106
you know what else is BIG Fucking News???

Noot Gingrich's account at Tiffany's.

(Not the cost of Michelle Obama's dress or her trips, though.)

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2011 11:16 AM (gM4zK)

107

If its any consolation, I'm told that the local FOX news in the tri state area covered this pretty extensively. I'm still coming out of my weekend stupor and I am sure others are as well. Give it another day Ace. What concerns me is that after quick scans of Drudge over the past two days- I've yet to see it.

  

Posted by: dananjcon at May 31, 2011 11:16 AM (pr+up)

108 Y-Not

didn't the media give more attention to some wacko lefty sites insinuation that Todd Palin got a massage from a massage place in which an employee of the establishment had once been arrested for prostitution? Therefore Todd Palin was cheating on Sarah?

And then we learned he didn't get a massage there, so story finally died?

yeah, imagine coverage if private citizen Todd Palin sent dic pic.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at May 31, 2011 11:16 AM (PK7oq)

109 In related news, Night of the Sodomizing Cougar Weiner is now at .0000000000000000000000001 on InTrade.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at May 31, 2011 11:16 AM (LHFI6)

110 look as someone from the NY Metro area it's not like we didn't always know Wiener was a dick

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 31, 2011 11:17 AM (i6RpT)

111 Lets remember that the debt limit vote is to continue to pay the BUSH debt.

They're Obama's tax cuts now and his debt eclipses Bush's.  #HackersInMyPants!

Posted by: nickless at May 31, 2011 11:17 AM (MMC8r)

112 I'm not sure why this matters, he's not like the Republicans. He's not going to resign. In case you didn't notice, Charlie Rangel is still in the House and no one cares. This is why it was stupid for the shirtless guy to resign in the first place.

Posted by: carl at May 31, 2011 11:18 AM (qEDLY)

113 Perhaps T. Coddington van Voorhees will weigh in on Dickaquiddick at the National Topsider.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at May 31, 2011 11:18 AM (RJ+Yj)

114 What is it with you people?  He's already posted a picture of his weener on the internet where anyone can see it.  What more do you want?

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos at May 31, 2011 11:18 AM (cS40G)

115 I would have dismissed this post, but I just checked out the corner, and Nathan plays the msm neutrality game. His point against it being true is that he thinks it unlikely that someone would email a photo of their junk to someone they only started following a couple months ago. Nathan needs to get out more. Of course it is not common for a politician to send junk photos (I hope), but that does not mean it didn't happen. And of course it is common for people to meet (net or IRL) and start communicating and then sexting and I would guess that almost always happens in less than two months.

Posted by: nine coconuts at May 31, 2011 11:18 AM (uz3hs)

116 It's on them.

Yeah. Sure.

I think they realized there would never be any outcome except becoming the targets of ridicule.

Life's not fair. You'd think that conservatives would have internalized that lesson by now. I guess not -- I guess the flash and shine of shitty little apps like Twitter make people think the rules have changed.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 31, 2011 11:18 AM (IuKAf)

117 Mr. Weiner Oscar Myer is on line 4.

Posted by: Killerdog at May 31, 2011 11:18 AM (jYAz0)

118 I have a solution:  Everyone needs to start talking like it is now an established fact that Weiner did send a dick pic.

He won't deny it.  All he has to say is "I didn't send it", or "that's not my pic"

He won't go to the cops - because he knows they will find out it was him that sent it.

He won't sue Breitbart - because he knows Breitbart is telling the truth.

So - I say the facts speak for themselves.  Weiner sent a dick pick to a college co-ed and mistakenly sent it out as a public tweet.

Weiner can't sue for libel if it's true.

spread the meme...

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 31, 2011 11:18 AM (f9c2L)

119 Fuck NRO. Bunch of elites. See Ace, you're right, it's more an elites v. the unwashed masses thing than a political thing.

Posted by: Dave at May 31, 2011 11:19 AM (Xm1aB)

120 Yeah Dr. Spank -- if they detected a fraud like that, especially to a US Congressman they would notify and cooperate with authorities on their own to protect their Twitter users, not look the other way and pretend it didn't happen.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at May 31, 2011 11:19 AM (PK7oq)

121

You want me to name names? I'll name some names.

That cock-sucker JPod.

That shithead was going back and forth about this with ace on twitter. Arguing all those stupid points about why this shouldn't be covered.

And then that smug cock-sucker started to give ace shit about HOW DARE ACE drag an innocent womens name through the gutter. HOW DARE HE use her name.

And then, what really infuritated me, is he then played the HYPOCRISY!!!111!!! card.

"WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE 'ACE' TO BLOG WITH A PSEUDONYM, WHILE USING THIS INNOCENT GIRLS REAL NAME!!111!!!1!1"

So JPod, that cock-sucker, issues a veiled threat about releasing aces 'secret identity.

Then ace says fine, and redacts the girls name. Goes back to calling her the "Comely CoEd".

Fine. Super.

Meanwhile, C Fuckin' N Fuckin' N is using her real name in their coverage!

JPod, suck my slimey fuckin' cock, you cock sucker.

.

.

Jesus, where's the Tylenol.

I mean, ace BROKE this story, developed it, and JPod keeps trying to SPIKE it?

What the hell?

Seriously, what the hell?

Talk about stabbing ace in the back.

 

Posted by: ed at May 31, 2011 11:19 AM (Y2WVW)

122 Well I guess Ace saw that thing at NRO.

Posted by: blaster at May 31, 2011 11:20 AM (l5dj7)

123 Soooooo sick of the double standard.  Weiner should be getting grilled and not treated with sweet relish from media. 

A perv, is a perv is a perv.  What about the young school girl he follows on twitter?  Can't call it "constituent out reach" if not from his district.

 

Posted by: Deli Llama at May 31, 2011 11:20 AM (MTMqc)

124 So, this is the one politician's problem that Ann Coulter thinks is unworthy of mockery?

Posted by: Chuckit at May 31, 2011 11:20 AM (mr6dB)

125 That CAPTCHA shit at NRO is the most cludgy bs I have ever had to fight my way through.

Posted by: trinity at May 31, 2011 11:20 AM (GTbGH)

126

NOOOOO, don't give up ace.  you don't have to be all weiner all the time, but don't give up.  "YOU CAN DO IT ROY!!!!"

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 31, 2011 11:20 AM (cniXs)

127 Ace thinks National Review is conservative media.  So is this *another* example of Ace jerking our chain?

Posted by: Bob Saget did not send you that picture of his weiner at May 31, 2011 11:20 AM (F/4zf)

128 Posted by: Topsecretk9 at May 31, 2011 04:16 PM

Yeah, I forgot about that one. 

It's absolutely ridiculous how out of whack the coverage is.  I still think Greta might be the one to go for it, but I imagine it would be helpful if there was an angle that was a bit more serious (ie: the risk of having a Congressman's accounts hacked) to it. 

Remember how they went in a frenzy over Palin's email account and how it was used?  The story was not the hacking as much as it was OMG Gov. Palin used her official account to send family photos, eleventy!!!  At least, that's how I remember it. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 31, 2011 11:20 AM (pW2o8)

129 I don't care if conservative news orgs don't want to call for his resignation or anything. But at least mock him. Make fun of him. Point out how he's humiliated himself with this. Don't be silent.

Posted by: MayBee at May 31, 2011 11:20 AM (PLixr)

130 I'm with you, Ace, and thoroughly disgusted with our own.

Posted by: petefrt at May 31, 2011 11:21 AM (+yfD6)

131  Charlie Rangel is still in the House and no one cares. This is why it was stupid for the shirtless guy to resign in the first place.

Posted by: carl at May 31, 2011 04:18 PM (qEDLY)

Yeah, and whats worse, isn't Rangel still writing Tax Laws??

One Tax Cheat writing Tax Law (Rangel)...

and one Tax Cheat enforcing Tax Law (Geitner)...

/shakes his head...

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2011 11:21 AM (NtXW4)

132 We shall snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, just like always!

Posted by: Peter at May 31, 2011 11:21 AM (cSlKk)

133 I left a message at NRO.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 31, 2011 11:22 AM (k0TKJ)

134 "The Arena: 'Weinergate' a cautionary tale?"

Ex-Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-Mich.): "Whatever you put out will be scrutinized and may be attacked."


The Hoekstra quote looks bad until you click the link and see what he's talking about here. Still, no one twisted what happened here.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 31, 2011 11:22 AM (CLYmB)

135 And, you know, our kids all go to the same school. How can I go to lacrosse matches with the other parents knowing that I had printed something scurrilous about one of them?

Posted by: Bill Kristol, Beltway guy at May 31, 2011 11:22 AM (RD7QR)

136 Hey, Tony is innocent.

I'll vouch for him.

Posted by: Brett Favre at May 31, 2011 11:22 AM (SwkdU)

137 I've generally been against the "conservative elite media" complaints posted in the comments here over the years, but holy crap.

They need people to hold their hands here and walk them through every single step.

They give the benefit of the doubt to one of the most petty, partisan Democrats in the U.S. House.

Posted by: AD at May 31, 2011 11:23 AM (mVDI9)

138 What's the distribution of Taranto's Best of the Web?  Front page center on the wsj.com's Opinion page is at least a start, right?

Posted by: Fritz at May 31, 2011 11:23 AM (0lKCV)

139 What, do you think I'm gonna comment on this?  Everyone knows Weiner throws killer cocktail parties.

Posted by: Rich Lowry's Combover at May 31, 2011 11:23 AM (/COcn)

140

Never beg, dude.

It's unmanly and guaranteed at any rate to result in you not getting what you want anyway.

Look, Ace: It's a good story. I did just as much as you to advance it over the long weekend (maybe more ... I didn't go off to a movie. Can't say how, but heavily linked on Instapundit and another Top 10 conservative site) and it did make CNN. So high-five, dude.

Plus now his life is changed. He just can't afford to get caught any more. So he'll change his life. Congratulations. His life is now miserable and that's what we want. We want them to not have fun.

Having said that ... It's not a great story. If his cock was out, then great story. It was in. If she was under 18, Great Story. She's 21 so it's only a good story. If he was caught at a motel with her, GREAT STORY. He wasn't at that phase yet - so only a good story.

Keep pegging away. Weiner has been shown to be the kind of guy who is sort of pervy and the best thing about pervs is they can't stop themselves. Eventually, he'll be caught coming out of a motel with some chesty groupie bimbo. We have to make sure we're there with a camera when he does it.

Conservatives have to STAY ON THEM. 2.4.7.

Posted by: someguy at May 31, 2011 11:23 AM (iIQ0a)

141 http://tinyurl.com/qcsqs

Posted by: SnakePlizzken at May 31, 2011 11:24 AM (b01zK)

142

OK. I'll just be upfront about it, Ace. I don't care about this story and I imagine 99% of Americans don't either. The guy sent a picture of a boner in underwear to a woman he knew who was over 18. Big. Deal. Guys do this all the time.

If he really did make a mistake and send it "worldwide", well...oops. But I just don't see that this is something that matters at all.

Is it a crime? I don't see how. She knew him, so it wasn't like it was some unknown guy sending the picture to a woman who didn't know him. That would be creepy and probably actionable.

But Wiener? They knew each other. The picture wasn't really obscene since no exposed body parts were shown. Just what is the issue?

I realize that his being a Dem means the old media won't touch (pardon) it, but I don't think the new media should bother either.

There are a lot more pressing issues to devote our attention to.

Posted by: Scott at May 31, 2011 11:24 AM (S3AFi)

143 And what kind of loser sends a pornographic photo to a chic but doesn't go full monty? If your going to send a dick pic, send a dick pic. Was he going for plausible denyability? Does his dick have a nasty rash? That is my biggest question. The guy must be a total full on loser. And he's a lawyer. It's like taking an unloaded weapon to rob a bank.

Posted by: nine coconuts at May 31, 2011 11:24 AM (uz3hs)

144 Didn't pay attention at all last week and this weekend, but I get it. If the left gets to change election cycles by running lame George Allen macaca stories or by making mark foley the face of the GOP, then surely we should return the favor. The only reason why we lose so often is because our side always accepts the left's little sister rules of battle (I hit you, you can't hit me, and I'll tell mom if you fight back).

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 31, 2011 11:24 AM (QxSug)

145 yeah, just like MSM devoted more coverage to private citizen Joe the Plumber's minuscule tax lien than all of Obama's appointed tax cheats.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at May 31, 2011 11:25 AM (PK7oq)

146 Ace:  what did you think was going to happen:  a furious attack from Ramesh Ponnuru (Mr. Teach the GOP a lesson and stay home in 200 ?

Posted by: IE Con at May 31, 2011 11:26 AM (/COcn)

147 ACE! Don't give up, bro.

You've been brilliant on here and on Twitter. This thing is not dying. Don't lose heart.

Posted by: Nick at May 31, 2011 11:26 AM (LtjBB)

148 Every conservative facing him in a debate/interview situation should start by asking, "Did you fuck the high school student?"

Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2011 11:26 AM (wPxqH)

149 112 I'm not sure why this matters, he's not like the Republicans. He's not going to resign. In case you didn't notice, Charlie Rangel is still in the House and no one cares. This is why it was stupid for the shirtless guy to resign in the first place.

Lee resigned for more than just the shirtless pic. But there definitely is that double standard even in just filing ethics complaints. Take the case of Ensign, for example, and compare it to what Barney Frank has done over the years-- and that's just the things that have been made public. If he was a Republican, he would have been forced-out a long time ago.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 31, 2011 11:27 AM (CLYmB)

150 This whole thing is very puzzling to me and my following questions have perhaps been answered elsewhere and if so I apologize for the repetition.

I have worked for corporate America (and Canada) for most of my adult life and am very familiar with large corporation IT policies (by large I mean 15000+ employees). I've had ad nauseum training on these policies (no porn, do not share you password, immediately report any unauthorized use, etc..) . If someone hacked a VPN accessible account, by default it would be investigated. If this account, at any time, digitally handled pornographic media, by default, there would be an investigation. Granted, it would be an internal investigation (at least at first), but a request or demand for such would be moot.

Who is ultimately responsible for Congress' IT department? Are their policies so different from the corporate world that its OK for them to have porn or allow their accounts to be hacked? Wouldn't an investigation be immdiately started as a matter of policy and procedure?


Confused employee of a non-government entity

Posted by: Gleep at May 31, 2011 11:27 AM (0Qak0)

151

There are a lot more pressing issues to devote our attention to.

Posted by: Scott at May 31, 2011 04:24 PM (S3AFi)

Absolutely. And you should trust the press to follow those issues with the thoroughness and even-handedness that they are demonstrating with WeinerGate.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 31, 2011 11:27 AM (LH6ir)

152 Life's not fair. You'd think that conservatives would have internalized that lesson by now.

"Life isn't fair" is another way of saying, "I surrender."

Unless you bitch about something, it won't change.  The most irate customer gets the most prompt service.  The group which yells the loudest and makes the most noise gets the most attention.  If you don't make a stink when something unfair happens to you, nobody else will.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 31, 2011 11:27 AM (TpXEI)

153 Mediate did do something on it, said they agree with both Weiner and Brietbart, but that the Kos coverage was a way off. They were trying to say the screen shot was a fake, which of course Weiner is saying he got hacked and is not disputing the photo was sent, so Breitbart would have no need to fake the screen shot.

Posted by: KOW at May 31, 2011 11:27 AM (TbM8N)

154 We really can't put our hopes in the Conservative media. Those playing hide-the-weenie on the right are just differently branded aspects of the same establishment feeding us the same line.

Posted by: Steve Poling at May 31, 2011 11:28 AM (db5YN)

155 OK. I'll just be upfront about it, Ace. I don't care about this story and I imagine 99% of Americans don't either. The guy sent a picture of a boner in underwear to a woman he knew who was over 18. Big. Deal. Guys do this all the time. Really? Because IMHO, guys doing this all the time is part of a problem, not a reason why it's ok for him to have done it. And putting it in his public Twitter feed is pretty outrageous/hilarious. There is no way the public would rather ignore that than at least LAUGH about it.

Posted by: MayBee at May 31, 2011 11:28 AM (PLixr)

156
OK. I'll just be upfront about it, Ace. I don't care about this story

Scott, here's what I care about: Weiner has compounded his sleaziness with a lie to the American public and an imputation of guilt against someone else -- someone whom he leaves to his minions to name while he saunters off whistling. The coverup and the redirection of guilt are too fucking much for me. What the hell is your problem?

Posted by: arhooley at May 31, 2011 11:28 AM (+/eKV)

157 Not for nothing, but I've given up on NRO a long time ago, used to be a daily read.
But, they are all country-club Republicans, all the time.  I just got too much of a  "we need to be respectable (read: liked by the left)" vibe from them too often to not extrapolate that it is and was the culture over there. A "come now, good chap, that attack is in bad form" when ever they'd rebut a smear or attack from the left type of vibe.
They are the worst at internalizing and accepting the left's characterization of conservatives. And I find that most damning because they hold themselves out as the intellectually engine room of the right.
Which they are not. Name one meme that they have generated. Yet, the hated Palin threw out "death panels" and nearly killed 0bamacare. While their hundreds of thousands of words and intellectual heft never mattered and has been long forgotten.

Posted by: Jimmuy at May 31, 2011 11:28 AM (iDnDP)

158 Dailly Caller has it as their Headline.

Posted by: KOW at May 31, 2011 11:28 AM (TbM8N)

159 How important is this?

Well, we've had GOP politicians resign, quite recently, over much less in terms of merely the actual picture (pecs vs bulges, no matter how small).  Why is that?  Doesn't it pique your curiosity at all, Scott? 

But mostly it's clear that this one picture that he fat-fingered is indicative of a Congressman who is getting it on, or at least attempting to get it on, with girls half his age.  And he fucking lied about it.

And, in a way the thing that pisses me off the most (aside from all the hypocrisy and the media's cooperation in the cover up) is that I cannot get a congress-critter from outside my district to give me the time of day.  They do everything they can to make it impossible to communicate with them if you're outside their district.  But this guy is fooling around with a co-ed from the other side of the country. 

I mean, wtf?  Is he doing any work at all or is it all just a big frat party in DC? 

Posted by: Y-not at May 31, 2011 11:29 AM (pW2o8)

160

Sorry to see that Ace, but like I always am saying - the EmperorGodKing and his bootlicking slaves in the media and judicial system have this all sewed up tight. There is no Constitution, there is no free press, there will not be any of that old "counting of votes" if it looks like the Left is going to lose.

No justice, no liberty, no Constitution, no freedom. Welcome to slavery, population: us.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at May 31, 2011 11:29 AM (WxnWr)

161 Ace,
Thank Breitbart.
Had he not been such a cowardly sleaze this story might have had legs.

Wiener should thank his stars this story was sent to the guy the media has been burned by several times before.


Posted by: goshPA at May 31, 2011 11:29 AM (W9alw)

162 148 Every conservative facing him in a debate/interview situation should start by asking, "Did you fuck the high school student?"

Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2011 04:26 PM (wPxqH)

 

No, use the word child, like the left does for anyone under 30 they can make a victim out of. 

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at May 31, 2011 11:30 AM (UciSl)

163 And where is the official statement from Obvious regarding the claim that their one and only commercial product, Twitter, is susceptible to hacking?

I hate to keep harping on this but I find it baffling.

Posted by: dick cheese at May 31, 2011 11:30 AM (GTbGH)

164 It didn't help that Captain Ed started the whole weekend off by making up an excuse for Weiner that he must have been hacked, because he was tweeting about hockey!!!!

Posted by: MayBee at May 31, 2011 11:30 AM (PLixr)

165 92 Conservative media is embargoing the story because ...

THEY ALL DO THE SAME THING.

Occam's Razor is sharper than Occam's Butterknife.

A mutual back-scratching, or cover-up. You know all those guys did the same or worse.

Posted by: whiskey at May 31, 2011 04:12 PM (L03mw)

This.  However, if Weiner is the butt of late night comics this week, things will start to thaw.  Exposing Weiner for being a bonehead is acceptable.  Exposing Weiner for moral outrage -- is erecting a strawman to be beaten down.


Need more boner jokes.

Posted by: wooga at May 31, 2011 11:30 AM (2p0e3)

166 158 Dailly Caller has it as their Headline.

Well, that doesn't help much.  They've established themselves as the Daily Mail of the US political intertubes.  That's why shit like the stupid Rebecca Mansour story was irritating. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 31, 2011 11:30 AM (pW2o8)

167 Now you know how the birthers feel.

This comment was pretty fun.

We already understand how the birthers feel.  It's how they think that's the problem.

Anyhow, although I disagree with Ace about the importance of this story, I get his frustration.  It's not that the conservative media is uninterested, it's that they continue to report untrue things, to an extent that is very strange.

Posted by: sandy burger at May 31, 2011 11:30 AM (XyoGP)

168

Scott at May 31, 2011 04:24 PM (S3AFi)

Scott, God bless you, yer about to make me stroke out here...

It's not the dic-pic that is so outrageous.

It's the blessed cover-up.  The lying about being hacked.  The insinuations of a criminal hacking.

If he had just sent a dic-pic, got caught and said 'whoops!  My bad!' then the story goes nowhere.

It's the cover up.

 

Posted by: ed at May 31, 2011 11:31 AM (Y2WVW)

169 Had their relationship matured to the point where he felt comfortable direct messaging her a picture of his bulging package? Probably not: Her Statement rings too true.



Wow, that's just, what's the phrase i'm searching for here..........oh yeah, unbelievably fucking stupid. Her statement rings too true. Why? Dunno, they just feel it man, what more do you want? Idiots.

Posted by: booger at May 31, 2011 11:31 AM (9RFH1)

170
Ace's update: "I officially give up."

someguy's comment was not inspirational, apparently

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 31, 2011 11:32 AM (gM4zK)

171

Could it be that the reluctance involves many of these conservative journalists have sent their junk through the mail aswell?

If so, they need to understand why that doesn't matter.
 
1---are they a public servant like Weiner
2---are they married like Weiner
3---have they lied about it yet like Weiner
4---have they sponsored a bill against sexual harrassment of college students like Weiner
5---have they made false allegations about criminal activity to cover it up like Weiner
6---do they have possible national security info on their computers like a congressman may have making such allegations newsworthy like Weiner
7---have they sent those pictures "publicly" for 45,000 people to see like Weiner


The dude made this private activity public by sending it public. Its now not private. He made it public. He made it newsworthy.

Posted by: Keven at May 31, 2011 11:32 AM (UMRed)

172 His very public announcement that he's hiring a lawyer is supposed to scare the media: he's threatening to sue the hell out any reporter who tries to do his job. So on top of being a sleaze and a liar, he's now being thug as well.

Posted by: Matt at May 31, 2011 11:32 AM (1ha9G)

173 Forget it, Ace. It's Georgetown.

Posted by: George Orwell at May 31, 2011 11:32 AM (AZGON)

174 Yeah, I too am a little perplexed as to why Drudge makes no mention of this. I agree with someone else who said if this is what we can use to take out a lying, liberal scumbag like Weiner, then run with it baby, run!

Posted by: Dave at May 31, 2011 11:33 AM (Xm1aB)

175 We have found the conservative media and he is us.

Posted by: Pogo at May 31, 2011 11:33 AM (FcR7P)

176 "Thank Breitbart.
Had he not been such a cowardly sleaze this story might have had legs."

Posted by: goshPA at May 31, 2011 04:29 PM (W9alw)

Brash? Almost certainly.
A little quick on the trigger? Maybe.
Cowardly? No.
Sleazy? No

You, however, are a sleaze for suggesting it without anything other than your word as an anonymous commenter.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 31, 2011 11:34 AM (LH6ir)

177 Barack Obama could ass rape a 12 yr old boy on the steps of Capitol Hill and the MSM would report that "Obama Gets Closer to American Youths"

Posted by: Jack at May 31, 2011 11:34 AM (kCT7A)

178 But Wiener? They knew each other. The picture wasn't really obscene since no exposed body parts were shown. Just what is the issue?

Not sure what you're going to tell your daughter when she goes off to college, but I'm fairly certain I'm going to be a little stricter.

If I hear a 46-year old married guy sent a picture of his crotch to her, I'm pretty sure I'm not going to laugh it off.

Posted by: AD at May 31, 2011 11:34 AM (mVDI9)

179 Ace, those who fight for the cause do not always in but they ALWAYS engage. My hats off to you bud!
Now do us all a favor and never link to HA again

Posted by: NfromNC at May 31, 2011 11:34 AM (kR57Q)

180 4---have they sponsored a bill against sexual harrassment of college students like Weiner

Interesting.  Which one? 

Posted by: Y-not at May 31, 2011 11:34 AM (pW2o8)

181 157 Not for nothing, but I've given up on NRO a long time ago, used to be a daily read.
But, they are all country-club Republicans, all the time.  I just got too much of a  "we need to be respectable (read: liked by the left)" vibe from them too often to not extrapolate that it is and was the culture over there. A "come now, good chap, that attack is in bad form" when ever they'd rebut a smear or attack from the left type of vibe...

I'd say Stiles, Costa, Schneider, de Rugy, Trinko, and a few of the others are true conservatives. The others like Ponnuru, Lowry, and J-Pod are what you described. They care too much about being invited to the next cocktail party instead of fighting for what's right.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 31, 2011 11:34 AM (CLYmB)

182 win ...not "in"

Posted by: NfromNC at May 31, 2011 11:34 AM (kR57Q)

183 The people doing the embargo are the same people who deem certain people "serious" and others "unserious"

Posted by: Dan at May 31, 2011 11:35 AM (mXBxH)

184

The seeming lack of coverage by the conservative media or any disparagment by repubs in congress makes me think that sending dicpics to college coeds is more common than perhaps we'd like to think.

Posted by: Soona at May 31, 2011 11:35 AM (j77Gr)

185

My kids need to get into the right schools lest they wind up at a state school like I did. 

I cannot agitate people on the board of Central Park West Academy.

If you had children and much to lose, like me, Mr. OfSpades you would understand.

 

Posted by: Rich Lowry at May 31, 2011 11:35 AM (VxqUc)

186 Is it a crime?

It doesn't matter. It's possible to show godawful judgement and gigantic character flaws without actually breaking the law.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 31, 2011 11:35 AM (jPPat)

187 Look, I am all for taking a wait and see, cooler heads approach especially when some wacko goes off all crazy and say starts shooting people or such, but Weiner's story is such complete concocted bullshit and EVERYONE knows it. So it's complete BULLSHIT for NRO and Fox ect. to play this high-brow, there are questions on both sides game.

I  believe there's a strong competent that they don't understand the story so their pretending questions still remain so they don't show their ignorance and they're lazy.

Posted by: Topsecretk9 at May 31, 2011 11:35 AM (PK7oq)

188 It's not that the conservative media is uninterested, it's that they continue to report untrue things, to an extent that is very strange.

Posted by: sandy burger at May 31, 2011 04:30 PM (XyoGP)

examples, please

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, Old Testament scholar & parable guru at May 31, 2011 11:35 AM (UqKQV)

189 Establishment conservatives are spineless, worthless assholes.  Nothing new, its a huge part of the problem.

Posted by: kefka at May 31, 2011 11:36 AM (UwqBE)

190

Need more boner jokes.

Posted by: wooga at May 31, 2011 04:30 PM (2p0e3)

You certainly do! Yours were some of the wurst I have ever heard.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 31, 2011 11:36 AM (LH6ir)

191 My gosh, that NRO post is the most pathetic treatment of this story I have yet seen. It's like the dude who wrote it lives in a bubble filled with stuffed animals and pacifiers.

Posted by: Dave at May 31, 2011 11:36 AM (Xm1aB)

192 EXPLAINED!

...Note that from the record in our file, your outstanding contract payment is USD$8.M  (Eight Million United States Dollars only) Kindly re-confirm to me if this is inline with what you have in your Record and also re-confirm the information below to enable this office proceed and finalize your fund remittance without  further delays.

1) Your full name.
2) Phone, fax and mobile #.
3) Company name, position and address.
4) Profession, age and marital status.
5) Picture of your johnson (sometimes called weiner) behind brief underpants.

Note that there is a new development in our banking sector regarding transferring of fund. The Management/Federal Ministry of Finance has appointed a new Financial Secretary her name is (Rev. Mrs. Smith) who is a comely Co-Ed and likes to view the picture of type mentioned in #5 supra. You are hereby advised to deal with her directly, regarding to the transferring of your fund and be advised that, any email you receive that is not from her, should be disregard and not to be responded to for security reasons and to avoid diversion of fund.


Posted by: J. Moses Browning at May 31, 2011 11:36 AM (d2juA)

193 Thank goodness that's over with...

Posted by: Congressional Cock Portraits at May 31, 2011 11:36 AM (FcR7P)

194

The truth about WeinerGate:

http://tinyurl.com/qcsqs

Posted by: SnakePlizzken at May 31, 2011 11:37 AM (b01zK)

195 >>If he had just sent a dic-pic, got caught and said 'whoops! My bad!' then the story goes nowhere. >>It's the cover up. Wait, what? One of our guys sends a picture of himself with his shirt off and he's toast and we lose the seat but a liberal can send a picture of his junk to some random college student and that's not news? It's not news because nobody will report the damn thing. Any transgression by a liberal either goes unreported or comes with a handy dandy msm excuse. We don't win on these things because we don't fight.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2011 11:37 AM (TMB3S)

196 What is legal is not necessarily ethical and/or moral!
That which is ethical and/or moral is not necessarily legal!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 31, 2011 11:37 AM (yrGif)

197 FTR Ace I have always thought of us as the Cavalry. The Calvary is inferior to the rest of the Army in power, but has speed and agility. This speed allows them to not only engage enemy Cavalry, but to scout enemy positions, skirmish and delay the enemy, and develop friendly battlefield positions. For example, at Gettysburg, General Beuford's critical development of the battlefield on day 1 where he identifies Lee's army headed to the field, occupies the favorable high ground and holds his position against forming infantry units until Union infantry arrives and deploys is an excellent example. You rode in, spotted the advantage, dismounted and held the hill. And your general just decided to abandon you and your position with the rest of the Army. That's what it feels like.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at May 31, 2011 11:37 AM (BApaC)

198 I saw it yesterday Y-not. It was from 20003. See if I can find it.

Posted by: Keven at May 31, 2011 11:37 AM (UMRed)

199 Some of you are ridiculous.  If any married older guy had sent this dic-pic to either of my daughters, you would have been...............punished


Posted by: SantaRosaStan, Old Testament scholar & parable guru at May 31, 2011 11:38 AM (UqKQV)

200 Every conservative facing him in a debate/interview situation should start by asking, "Did you fuck the high school student?"

Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2011 04:26 PM (wPxqH)


Yeah, and every conservative facing Ted Kennedy on any subject could just have easily asked "why'd you leave the girl there?" or "it's enough to try to sell us out to the Soviets, don't you think it's even more pathetic to try it and get rejected?"

They'll be as brave and aggressive in the future as they're being here.

Posted by: AD at May 31, 2011 11:38 AM (mVDI9)

201

ace BROKE this story, developed it, and JPod keeps trying to SPIKE it?What the hell?Seriously, what the hell?Talk about stabbing ace in the back.Posted by: ed at May 31, 2011 04:19 PM (Y2WVW)

eh, J-Pod is also the guy who declared more than once that Mark Sanford's "disappearnce on the Applachian Trail" to hook up with a hot Argentine was no biggy, and as I recall got all huffy with people on the right who wanted Sanford gone. What we know about J-Pod is, he's one of those guys who believes A Man's Gotta Do What  A  Man's Gotta Do.

Posted by: glowing blue meat at May 31, 2011 11:38 AM (K/USr)

202

Ace - I Encourage, Congratulate, Support and Approve. 

Keep it going.  This Weiner is going to blow.

Posted by: cheshireLion at May 31, 2011 11:39 AM (tqE0E)

203 It's this kind of take-no-prisoners attitude in the mainstream conservative media that keeps the Democrats constantly looking over their shoulders. In sure anticipation of some sweet, sweet conservative reacharound. I'm looking forward to a rerun of conservative figureheads and scribblers toasting Obama at a dinner to celebrate his re-election in 2012. Maybe George Will will host it again, or perhaps Bill Kristol. Maybe they will host Weiner when he is elected Mayor of New York. The appetizers will be bacon-wrapped Vienna sausages, for a hearty chuckle over old times.

Posted by: George Orwell at May 31, 2011 11:39 AM (AZGON)

204 Heh.  Of the fourteen or so responses to Goulding's spineless, ignorant post, at least ten have pointed out that he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Hey Goulding, grow a brain or a pair or something.  We don't need another half-baked rehash of some of the facts.  Get on the story or just go away.


Posted by: Popcorn at May 31, 2011 11:39 AM (OOehk)

205

I want to win. Even if there are bigger issues, is there some rule that says we can only talk about so many things at a time? If there is, it is a pretty dumb one.

And why isn't Weinergate relatable to a big issue. Try corruption and try the media. I don't see any harm in reminding independents that Dems lie about everything from their dicks to their health care plans, from their wars to their kinetic military actions . . . I don't see any harm in throwing out another example of media bias, the "we forgot to report" variety in contrast to the national coverage of some R dipshit who sent a picture of his shirt off. Allow the mocking of official mockers like Jon Stewart.

Prepare the idealogical battlefield by taking away the Dems "we are not perverts but republicans are" weapon. Neutralize the slander "arguments" in order to stay focused on the issues. Then bring out the correctly margined, 12 point font definitive White Paper.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at May 31, 2011 11:39 AM (qwK3S)

206 Hot Air is all You-know-who, all the time. They know their readership. The scandal would distract from how awesome her bus tour is.

Posted by: Anony at May 31, 2011 11:39 AM (Yigvc)

207 Eat it bitches! King Kong ain't got shit on me!

Posted by: Anthony "BVD" Weiner at May 31, 2011 11:39 AM (XthHy)

208 Conservative media is embargoing the story because ... THEY ALL DO THE SAME THING. Occam's Razor is sharper than Occam's Butterknife.

That's not the simplest explanation. It's not even possible, really.

Dick-tweeting is rare, because the types who'll do it are rare: pervs and "alphas." Pervs (maybe 2% of dudes) will dick-pic because the reaction they want to get from it is abnormal, so social approbation or whatever don't matter to them, and "alphas" (also about 2%) will do it because for them it works. The amount of road pussy Weeener's going to get from this—from lying transparently and getting away with it, holding onto his power and expanding it (socially) when cornered; not from the picture itself, which is only retroactively sexy, as a token of his dominance over, among others, the conservative media—will be astounding. MILES of poon. And he knows it. Look at his face. Happy man.

The simplest explanation of big-conservative-media silence is: They're pussies. Subordinate—and willfully so. Shivering, terrified geeks.

The evidence of that theory is everywhere, and open. You don't have to presume anything. Just look. Check NR, any issue, any subject. They (except Steyn and Derb) cowards-way-out of everything.

It's their job. They do it.

Posted by: oblig. at May 31, 2011 11:39 AM (xvZW9)

209 Weinergate will remain the focus of my life. I don't care if I have to examine every boner this side of the Hudson River!  

Posted by: Miss Balbricker at May 31, 2011 11:40 AM (pr+up)

210 Did someone say bacon-wrapped Vienna sausages? Mmmmmmmm good.

Posted by: Dave at May 31, 2011 11:40 AM (Xm1aB)

211 James Taranto's piece in The WSJ (as mentioned up-thread) is making it's way around the Intertubes.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 31, 2011 11:40 AM (CLYmB)

212 Politicians chasing hot chicks is dog-bites-man stuff. Power, money and sex is why 90% of them get into the business.

All this story is good for is humiliating the guy (and the girl as collateral damage). So use it for that if you want. I mean, it is pretty funny.

Posted by: Ken at May 31, 2011 11:40 AM (3ar4L)

213 Instead of posts consisting of inner monologue, can we get some explanation of what the heck this post is about? 

By the way - neocons = NE country club republicans?  Someone might want to let the Rockefellers know that.

Posted by: Dan at May 31, 2011 11:40 AM (YQ4mh)

214

Ace, don't you dare give up on this.   That is exactly what weiner expects you to do.   That's what the right always does.   That's why the left gets by with this kind of shit.   

If bloggers like you don't push this story to its' conclusion what the hell good is alternative media?   You know that if it was anyone on our side that had done this the left would be on it like a dog with a bone until they got what they wanted from it.   This is the kind of shit that Alinsky was written for.    use their fucking rules to take down this bastard.

DO NOT LET UP!    Do not let the cowards on the right dictate what is or is not a damn story.   Shove it down their damn throats and keep calling them out for the pussies they are.

Posted by: Steph at May 31, 2011 11:41 AM (AkdC5)

215 Who is ultimately responsible for Congress' IT department? Are their policies so different from the corporate world that its OK for them to have porn or allow their accounts to be hacked? Wouldn't an investigation be immdiately started as a matter of policy and procedure?


Confused employee of a non-government entity

Posted by: Gleep at May 31, 2011 04:27 PM (0Qak0)

Congress Critters are the only Americans left who have true Freedom of Speech, as they have an extra Protection under the Speech and Debate Clause... which when written was only supposed to cover Official Speech, but that Congress and the Courts hold makes their ALL their Speech Unaccountable (even when Murtha accused specific Marines of MURDER on National TV, they said he was not accountable for libel).

Thus, they can say anything they want, and can ONLY be held accountable by others in Congress... not by anyone outside of Congress (except next election).

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2011 11:41 AM (NtXW4)

216 But Ace you don't understand, we Conservatives are above this sort of stuff, but while we're at it lets scream and howl about another certain NY Rep. who took his shirt off on Craigs list to pick up chicks. He must resign, Weiner not so much.....

Posted by: Donna at May 31, 2011 11:41 AM (bdE9c)

217 Humiliating Mr. Weiner seems a wise use of time and resources.

Posted by: Mr. and Mrs. Clarence Thomas at May 31, 2011 11:42 AM (Xm1aB)

218 Here's the thing: Weiner gets to have it both ways.  He gets to tell the lie, but gets to have everybody believe the truth.

If his lie were actually true, there would be a major scandal here of which Weiner would be the victim.

But we all know it isn't true, so we're supposed to pretend the truth is true while at the same time accepting his lie.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 31, 2011 11:42 AM (T0NGe)

219 It's the second most read article on Fox News, that is some consolation despite the fact they aren't pushing it.

Posted by: Dan at May 31, 2011 11:42 AM (F8aCw)

220

H.R. 4318---- Sexual Harrassment and Reporting and Posting Act of 2004

He was the number 1 sponsor I believe.

Posted by: Keven at May 31, 2011 11:42 AM (UMRed)

221 I am so sick and tired of this faux-integrity bullshit. The conservative media is pussing out on this story, and I would really love a damn good reason as to why.

Posted by: Aurvant at May 31, 2011 11:42 AM (+8QML)

222 Would to see his reaction to the following in a press conference: "Congressman? You should really check your Twitter. She just sent a smokin' picture back to you..."

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2011 11:43 AM (FcR7P)

223 Fuck 'em. These scared little "conservative" media bitches have too many skeletons in their own closets to go poking around in others' closets.



Posted by: sifty at May 31, 2011 11:43 AM (2dbd9)

224 What's up?

Posted by: Matt Drudge at May 31, 2011 11:43 AM (nQR0p)

225 thanks for trying, ace. you'll be vindicated when the coed gets knocked up with mini-weiner.

Posted by: twig at May 31, 2011 11:44 AM (w9N0m)

226 OMG, I just realized something: "someguy" is Andrew Breitbart! I LOVE YOU, AAANNDREEEWWW!!!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 31, 2011 11:44 AM (FI38b)

227 Hey, I learned my lesson about having conservative allies.

Posted by: George Allen at May 31, 2011 11:44 AM (AZGON)

228

There are a lot more pressing issues to devote our attention to. Posted by: Scott at May 31, 2011 04:24 PM (S3AFi)

Yeesh.  Learn to fight, gramma.

Posted by: glowing blue meat at May 31, 2011 11:45 AM (K/USr)

229 Ace, I notice you have discovered the establishment. Frustrating,huh. I routinely ask my brilliant professor girlfriend why so many journalists ignore pulitzer level stories such as auto dealer closing criteria, obamacare waiver criteria and refusals, stimulus fraud, the ig scandal, project gunrunner, and I know you hate it, but the real backstory on obama: fake bc, ssn's, foreign aid,admittance. All treated like your little weiner story. Frustrating, huh? The smoke is almost fire dude. Keep pushing!

Posted by: Joefrog of the Stonecutters at May 31, 2011 11:45 AM (LL9f8)

230 BTW, time to set up a honey pot for the good congressman from Dicksville.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 31, 2011 11:45 AM (wPxqH)

231

"If he had just sent a dic-pic, got caught and said 'whoops!  My bad!' then the story goes nowhere. It's the cover up"

ed at May 31, 2011 04:31 PM

-------------------------------------------

I would agree however i tend to hold my representatives to a higher standards than I myself adhere to. Accepting these positions places you in an above the fray spotlight and God help you if you cross that line, Dem or Repub. You have given up your right to defend yourself when doing something that the rest of us must pay for on an average day. Sending a pic of my member to a 21 yo coed is a calling to a cage match in MY married life. Why isn't this a calling to the carpet by an elected representative that has a history like his? it should be and there should be no compunction about calling this shitstick out loudly, continuously and with conviction.

Posted by: Talibill at May 31, 2011 11:45 AM (fkiq4)

232
To the U.S.A. Commander of the encircled town of Bastogne.

The fortune of war is changing. This time the U.S.A. forces in and near Bastogne have been encircled by strong German armored units. More German armored units have crossed the river Our near Ortheuville, have taken Marche and reached St. Hubert by passing through Hompre-Sibret-Tillet. Libramont is in German hands.

There is only one possibility to save the encircled U.S.A. troops from total annihilation: that is the honorable surrender of the encircled town. In order to think it over a term of two hours will be granted beginning with the presentation of this note.

If this proposal should be rejected one German Artillery Corps and six heavy A. A. Battalions are ready to annihilate the U.S.A. troops in and near Bastogne. The order for firing will be given immediately after this two hours term.

All the serious civilian losses caused by this artillery fire would not correspond with the well-known American humanity.

The German Commander.



And you, Ace, are giving up because three whole days of shrugging have occurred in the MBM? FUCK THAT. Where are your nuts?


Posted by: arhooley at May 31, 2011 11:46 AM (+/eKV)

233 Weinergate? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Matt Drudge at May 31, 2011 11:46 AM (Xm1aB)

234 H.R. 4318---- Sexual Harrassment and Reporting and Posting Act of 2004 He was the number 1 sponsor I believe. But we can't pursue him for such hypocrisy. That would be just like Alinsky. Better to ignore the whole thing and concentrate on Boehner's smoking or who is paying for Palin's bus... you know. Real issues.

Posted by: conservative media at May 31, 2011 11:46 AM (AZGON)

235

Makes you wonder how many other news items are held back and go unreported because they don't fit the narrative. Other important stuff like what the heck we are doing in Libya and how much ordinance used and civilian casualties blah blah blah. I never hear about that. Must be unflattering to Obamas war effort. It is demoralizing when the people tasked to be the govt watchdog, end up being the govts propaganda arm.

Posted by: lauren at May 31, 2011 11:46 AM (ibCFU)

236 Official AoSHQ Scale of Obama Democrat Conspiracy Theory Acceptability (Rev. 5/31/11)

Birth certificate doubt:  OH JUST FUCKING SHUT UP ALREADY YOU ASSHOLES

Memoir authorship doubt:  HMM TUM TUM.... LAH DAH DEE DEE DEEEEE...

College transcript doubt:  WE'VE GOT THIS FUCKER COLD!

Anthony Weiner dickpic crusade:  ;">?????WHERE ;">IS ;"> EVERYBODY?????

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at May 31, 2011 11:46 AM (FYCiJ)

237 Take a look a Big Journalism. Brietbart isn't burying this story. 15 of the 16 headline articles are about Weiner's dong and the 16th is humping his book.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2011 11:47 AM (TMB3S)

238 Dude...if you think there's something here, and you think it matters enough regardless of what we see, then keep at it.  Just because I or anyone else don't see it doesn't mean there isn't something there worth pursuing.

Besides, it would be sweet to take the punk down...

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 31, 2011 11:47 AM (GBXon)

239 How official is that cell phone account from which he sent that photo? One way or another, our taxes pay his cell phone bills, so he abused taxpayer money, which is a crime, not just an embarrassment. The MFM/libs dug through Sarah Palin's official email accounts, and when they found one or two that said, "Todd, can you pick up a quart of milk on the way home?" they screamed bloody murder for a year or two, harassed her and her family, dragged her through the courts, wrote not just articles but books about such malfeasance, and her time and efforts put into fighting the nuisance litigation eventually overwhelmed her ability to do her job and she quit. Lets use the Palin standard here!

Posted by: Matt at May 31, 2011 11:48 AM (1ha9G)

240 I didn't read Ace's post, but what is this shit about him giving up on this story that I keep seeing in the comments?

Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at May 31, 2011 11:48 AM (Xm1aB)

241 Never thought that Weiner guy would get more press loyalty than I did. His hair doesn't even have full body and a rich sheen.

Posted by: John Edwards at May 31, 2011 11:48 AM (AZGON)

242 Besides, if Breitbart's got your back...

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 31, 2011 11:48 AM (GBXon)

243 >>And you, Ace, are giving up because three whole days of shrugging have occurred in the MBM? FUCK THAT. Where are your nuts? I see a twit pic in your future.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 31, 2011 11:49 AM (TMB3S)

244 This is why, in a conservative nation, the GOP has such a hard time winning.

GOP Congressman sends shirtless pic to lady on Craigslist. He admits it and resigns in days, and in a special election, his "SAFE GOP" seat is now a DEM SEAT.

Dem Congressman sends DICK PICK to lady. He lies, lies again, lies some more. GOP does nothing.

For all our love of the military, and reading of military history and strategy, we don't know how to fight.

Posted by: Less at May 31, 2011 11:49 AM (PGXeZ)

245

It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye.

Seriously, this will come back to bite Weiner.  He won;t get away with it.  How long till the wifey moves out?  Anyone?  Bueller?

How will he explain that? 

The conservative media are pussies.

Posted by: mpfs at May 31, 2011 11:50 AM (iYbLN)

246

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at May 31, 2011 04:46 PM (FYCiJ)

Geeezzzz.... don't you know that Color Codes are soooo last Millenium?

Posted by: Janet Napolitanos Hairdresser and Security Advisor at May 31, 2011 11:50 AM (NtXW4)

247

I can definitively state, with personal knowledge, and great authority, that said "bulge" in the scandalous pic is not Rep Weiner's.  That bulge while a very pedestrian bulge, is well.....   Rep Weiner's is, anything but.  We don't refer to him in private conversations as "that little prick" for nothing.

 

Posted by: Bwarny at May 31, 2011 11:50 AM (ucq49)

248 By the way, Mr. Weiner used his press briefing to deflect questions about his dickpicking by slamming Clarence Thomas and calling the Republicans' debt ceiling vote a joke. Fuck him. Keep up with this story and get his ass canned!

Posted by: Dave at May 31, 2011 11:51 AM (Xm1aB)

249 Get ray stevens to turn this scandal into a song

Posted by: Lost in tx at May 31, 2011 11:53 AM (moS1D)

250 As a follow-up, I like to think of myself as a proud member of MoronNation™. I routinely agree with the thoughts and sentiments expressed on this site. I love that we don't just want to win. We want to destroy and humiliate our foes, which is exactly how they treat us. Ignore the fucking so called conservatives who will not help us destroy the career of a liberal puke. F them too. Stand strong!

Posted by: Joefrog of the Stonecutters at May 31, 2011 11:53 AM (LL9f8)

251

I have always thought of us as the Cavalry. The Calvary is inferior to the rest of the Army in power, but has speed and agility. This speed allows them to not only engage enemy Cavalry, but to scout enemy positions, skirmish and delay the enemy, and develop friendly battlefield positions.

The cavalry is the organization in every army in which it's freedom of movement and maneuver is the envy of every soldier in that army.  Go Cav!!

Posted by: Soona at May 31, 2011 11:53 AM (j77Gr)

252 I'd say Anthony has a "small problem."

Posted by: Anthony Weiner's Wife at May 31, 2011 11:53 AM (Xm1aB)

253 240 -- funny andrew breitbart.

Posted by: ace at May 31, 2011 11:53 AM (nj1bB)

254

And you, Ace, are giving up because three whole days of shrugging have occurred in the MBM? FUCK THAT. Where are your nuts?


Posted by: arhooley at May 31, 2011 04:46 PM (+/eKV)

You go, girl

Ace, fight like a girl!

Posted by: Steph at May 31, 2011 11:54 AM (AkdC5)

255 Soona, That's what Cav tells themselves after whining that they can't test for the EIB.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 31, 2011 11:58 AM (FI38b)

256 Boys! Avenge me! Avenge me!

Posted by: Chris Lee shirtless Congressman at May 31, 2011 11:59 AM (pmzey)

257 So the so-called Conservative Media won't jump into the trenches to work a little bit? I'm feeling REALLY good about the "serious" candidates they try to market to us now.

I'll let my friend Lt Col Frank Slade speak for me on this;

NRO, Weekly Standard, wherever you are out there ...

FUCK YOU TOO !!!!

Posted by: kbdabear at May 31, 2011 12:00 PM (vdfwz)

258 The interesting point is that no one, no one outside the mouthbreathing shock troops of DKos, actually believes Weiner's lies.  They only act as though they do to provide cover for the so-called conservative press so that they can look the other way.

Posted by: dick cheese at May 31, 2011 12:00 PM (GTbGH)

259 Hannity pretty much went with the 'hacked' version. What a disappointing day from Rush and Hannity.

Posted by: Schwalbe : The © at May 31, 2011 12:07 PM (UU0OF)

260

The way I figure it the gal in question will start to realize just how small a man weiner is and will spill the nuts so to speak...

Posted by: Talibill at May 31, 2011 12:09 PM (fkiq4)

261 examples, please

When I mean is, when a story about this says that there's no way to know one way or the other, they're spreading false information.  Really, there's no reasonable doubt about what happened, and to imply otherwise is dishonest or misinformed.

I don't think liberals will care; they expect their elites to behave like this.  So I don't think this is a big story for the right.  But it weirds me out to see people saying he could be innocent of this: no, he's guilty.  Whether or not it matters, and I think it won't matter much, is a matter of opinion.  But what happened is a fact.

Posted by: sandy burger at May 31, 2011 12:09 PM (XyoGP)

262 I wouldn't -mind- the hacked version if it was like -Ace- going with the hacked version.

"Congressman Hacked?!? Congressman H A C K E D?? Let's find the culprit!!! Eleventy!"

Posted by: Al at May 31, 2011 12:10 PM (MzQOZ)

263 The NRO commenters are going nuts on the author of that essay. The people want this story pursued. Hang in there. I do think someone will step forward and show that Weiner has been doing this for a while. Maybe then it will take off...

Posted by: Joejm65 at May 31, 2011 12:12 PM (BDB5n)

264

Weiner's position will fall apart in time.  No LEO investigation.  No civil lawsuit investigation (discovery cuts both ways).  Just nothing.  The nothing will be the tell.

Meanwhile, the Comely Coed continues to Twitter on.  She's bound to let something else slip.  Another tell.

Similar to the Edwards story in the National Enquirer, the truth will out (be publicly confirmed) at a later date. 

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 31, 2011 12:13 PM (XBM1t)

265 I have to say, as I said days ago, that this petulance over the rest of the conservative media not agreeing with Ace, is getting very unbecoming. I have always admired Ace and what he can do, but this one is a clear case of going all in before you even see the flop. I don't really blame Ace for going for the weiner wagged in front of one's face, but I knew days ago -- and said as much here -- that this story wouldn't stand waving on its own after the weekend. Beware the slow newsdays and beware the self-contained peanut gallery that gathers on those days. The sorry truth his that, like the weiner it was based on, this story is just not that big a deal.

Posted by: vanderleun at May 31, 2011 12:14 PM (cswem)

266

Some people took some chances and developed this story and kept it alive and discovered stuff and advanced it.

Of course, I am not a member of the "conservative media", and I have talked about or commented on this story absolutely nowhere except here, and at absolutely no time except in the last few hours.

So... It's not like I won or anything.

Anyway... I think this goes to show that Ace obviously can't control shit. No blogger can. You can't make the news cover something just by putting 4, or 400, or 40000 posts on a blog. If 1 a day don't work, 5 a day won't either.

It's just, y'know, right back to the same old thing I'm arguing on the other thread. You see people get so worked up. I can't imagine it's healthy. They're spinning their wheels but they ain't going nowhere. You've got underwear gnome question marks going on steps 2 AND 3.

1) Democrat sex scandal over a dickpic

2) ???

3) ???

Conservative media is read primarily by conservatives. Conservatives already hated Weiner anyway. The people who like Weiner, are people who get their news from places that embargo this story. Those places embargo this story because those people (their consumers/customers) want them to as surely as you want conservative media to go to town with it. And also, those people don't care about dickpic scandals to begin with, beyond worrying what other people will think.

What the hell is the exit strategy?

This scandal is a quagmire.

Posted by: Entropy at May 31, 2011 12:16 PM (IsLT6)

267 This says alot.  The republicans who are pretending this didn't happen would only cover it up for one reason:  They've done similar things in the past that 'could' come out if Weiner is exposed for the power-abusing pervert he is.

Every clear thinking person alive today should want to see Weiner crucified over this.  He'd be the first to be screaming during a session of congress if this were a republican.  I think we have our answer.  Power abusing perverts from both parties are unnerved by this story... it hits close to home.

Now you wonder how you get a job as a staffer for a politician?  This is how.  Put out feelers on twitter about 'having a crush on xxxx'.... and the genital pics start flowing and then the job offer.  Only this time, the process was stopped at the 'genital pic flow' step.  HAHA

sad but true

Also something strange today with Glenn Beck.  In his opening tease on his radio show, he made it seem like it would be all Weiner, all the time.

However

He didn't mention it once in 3 hours of show.  BIZARRE

Almost like someone on staff told him it wasn't a good idea to cover it

Posted by: Billy Barty at May 31, 2011 12:17 PM (/geHL)

268 "Did you see Weiner saying he was "loathe" to pursue this?" Yes, Ace, I did see that. Would that others had had a similiar insight into the loathesomness of the whole thing from the beginning. It's difficult to say, right left or center, "I was wrong" but sometimes it has to be said without pique, without being in a huff, without irony, and without sarcasm. To harp on other's implied failure to see a story at the same size you see it at is not to make yourself more "right" and others some sort of conservative quislings to "the cause." That sort of harping is best saved for those that do it compulsively... you know.... people like Andrew Sullivan.

Posted by: vanderleun at May 31, 2011 12:19 PM (cswem)

269

They've done similar things in the past that 'could' come out if Weiner is exposed for the power-abusing pervert he is.

Bill Clinton is a power-abusing pervert.

John Ensign is a power-abusing pervert.

Weiner is a pervert.

Where is your evidence of abuse of power?

Cuz he's lying to the media and the public? OK... that's abusive, but anyone can do that. Alleging a false crime? Illegal... but again you don't need to be a Congressman.

What is the abuse of power here?

Posted by: Entropy at May 31, 2011 12:20 PM (IsLT6)

270

I take abuse of power very seriously.

Perversion not so much.

Posted by: Entropy at May 31, 2011 12:20 PM (IsLT6)

271 Where the hell is Drudge? This is right up his alley... He even has a "Woman saws off rapist's dong" story posted. /boggle

Posted by: BillyShaft at May 31, 2011 12:21 PM (gGGR/)

272

"Ace's update: "I officially give up."

We don't need quitters, dude.

And the "conservative establishment media" is codespeak for "Democrat RINOs."

Did you think that NRO was conservatives? They're not. Many of them are Democrats (KLO et al). They're not the be-all, end all.

We can ourselves BECOME the conservative media, but not if we're quitters. Stay on Weiner, make him tell the thin lies, keep conservative cameras on his ass every time he moves from point A to point B and make him know we're watching him. Make HIM whine. Follow his every move on all the sites.

IF you ain't got the stamina for the long haul, go back to telling Anka jokes. These are battles, not wars. Get him next time. Be there when he fucks up again - and he will.

Soon.

Posted by: someguy at May 31, 2011 12:21 PM (iIQ0a)

273 I think the question Ace is asking of the conservative establishment media at this point is, "do I look like a bitch to you?"  To which the CEM replies, "what?" and so on and so forth...


Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 31, 2011 12:23 PM (9eDbm)

274 "This says alot. The republicans who are pretending this didn't happen would only cover it up for one reason: They've done similar things in the past that 'could' come out if Weiner is exposed for the power-abusing pervert he is." Sorry, but that's just bull-moose crazy. Worse, it's the kind of brainless cheerleading that has led to Ace wasting so much of his time on this non-starter of a story. If anything contributed to this whole fiasco it's been the boola-boola "you go guy" commentary that comes up with the kind of comment above. Indeed, shift it around a bit and it wouldn't be out of place in a Democratic Underground thread.

Posted by: vanderleun at May 31, 2011 12:24 PM (cswem)

275

OK, so let me get this straight.  (er, or this case, kinda folded to one side)

There are a dozen or so large media conglomerates.  In some cases the media conglomerates are owned by even larger conglomerates, such as GE.  All of those conglomerates are large enough that they must take an interest in the future of U.S. politicians, because they have no choice other than to keep their friends close and their enemies closer.

So, in many cases, those conglomerates have a lot invested in the politicians they own.  (That's right, I said it, the politicians they own.)  And here you are expecting those conglomerates to chuck their investment because their particular politician is a shitweasel.  Guess what, they always suspected he was a shitweasel and they confirmed their suspicisions when he sold out to them.

So, you are amazed that the rules the conglomerates apply for the politicians they own are not the same as the rules for the other politicians.  Well, I sure as hell am not amazed by anything the shitweasel did or anything his shitweasel pals will do to cover for him.  But, I am amazed that you are amazed.

 

 

 

Posted by: jc at May 31, 2011 12:27 PM (i8c5b)

276 " If I'm going to call people out, I should do it prominently." Ace, you really, really, really do not want to do that. You want to admit the extent to which you were wrong, and then move on to something that's going to re-elevate the site out of the trough it's fallen into. Besides, you have plenty of linkage and support as you were moving on this. Less so now. Again, this weiner is too small for you to make enemies over. I think you are, in the main, a brilliant blogger. But like others, including myself, you can -- because you are human -- just blow it. It happens to everyone. For now, please, just drop it. You're getting far too emotional and angry. It wouldn't do for the only reputation to be sullied in this whole sordid tale would be yours. Forget it, Ace. It's Chinatown.

Posted by: vanderleun at May 31, 2011 12:28 PM (cswem)

277

I am still in awe he could hold a boner that long to take a photo.  That would be a personal best for me.

Too much awe to blog it.

Posted by: AllahPundit at May 31, 2011 12:33 PM (VxqUc)

278 Just watched Chris Matthews cover the story.  He says the hemming and hawing would "give {Weiner} stories some legs".  So.....wow.  Matthews seems to believe Weiner did it. 

Posted by: Seattle TV Viewer at May 31, 2011 12:33 PM (ih+87)

279 I don't think it so much an embargo as most people just don't give a crap about this story as much as some bloggers do.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 31, 2011 12:35 PM (r4wIV)

280

I think too many conservative journalists are bound and determined to "take the high road" with Weinergate.  Too bad.  Too stupid. 

 

Politics ain't tea and crumpets.  The right simply has to learn to play smart, and that is to do as their political opponents would do if the tables were turned: crucify Weiner.  (Sorry, no puns here.)

 

Look, in other circumstances, I would sympathize for the little turd.  We all do dumb things, and we all have skeletons we'd like to keep hidden away, but life is imperfect.  Weiner is dangerous to the conservative/Republican cause, and NRO and others should do all they can to neuter that prick Weiner.  (OK, puns allowed). 

Posted by: Nomennovum at May 31, 2011 12:37 PM (pV1Y8)

281

@244: "This is why, in a conservative nation, the GOP has such a hard time winning."

It's not a conservative nation - its a fairly socialist nation.  Yes, people in polls may describe themselves as conservatives, but that doesn't mean that they actually are.  The GOP is even less conservative than the nation - it simply uses conservative sloganeering to distinguish itself from the other party of statists.


"For all our love of the military, and reading of military history and strategy, we don't know how to fight."

We know how to fight, just not how to win.  Look at our post WWII wars - Unqualified wins: Panama, Grenada; Qualified Wins: Desert Storm, Kosovo, probably Iraq; Draws: Korea, probably Libya; Losses: Vietnam, Cambodia (proxy), Laos (proxy), Lebanon, Somalia, probably Afghanistan

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 31, 2011 12:42 PM (xy9wk)

282 I have absolutely no need to read NRO or Weekly Standard. Or friggin' Vanderleun, for that matter.

Posted by: Bugler at May 31, 2011 12:43 PM (VXBR1)

283

"Just watched Chris Matthews cover the story.  He says the hemming and hawing would "give {Weiner} stories some legs". 

Think about why that is and then ponder this (I'll tell you why Matthews did what he did in a moment).

CNN fucking raked him over the coals this weekend.

John King: "There's one way that the Representative could try to put this to rest and that would be to call in the Capital Police or call the FBI and say 'come on in, please launch an investigation because I was hacked.' Why hasn't he done that?

Dana Bash: "We don't know the answer to that. I actually asked Congressman Weiner's Press Secretary about that and didn't get a response. We do know from the Capitol Police and FBI that they are not investigating. There have been no requests that we can detect for a formal investigation."

King: "Curious there. We'll keep tracking this curious case, Dana."


This is what a conservative victory looks like in the media. CNN just put Weiner on notice. This gets bookmarked. It gets remembered next time he's caught with his fucking britches down.

And here is why: Nobody gives two fucking shits about Anthony Weiner, but his wife is widely respected in the news media and he's making HER look horrible. That's why the liberal media is willing to slap Wiener across his fucking knuckles with a ruler. Because he's ruining the reputation of his widely respected wife.

No blog entry mentioning Anthony "Check Out My" Weiner should exist without mentioning how awful it is that he did this to his poor wife Huma Abedin ... how he's stained her reputation. How this is really such a poor reflection on her ... not him.

This is Chicago, buddy. And that's how you get Capone.

Posted by: someguy at May 31, 2011 12:43 PM (iIQ0a)

284 279 I don't think it so much an embargo as most people just don't give a crap about this story as much as some bloggers do.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 31, 2011 05:35 PM (r4wIV)

And why would that be? Seriously, the idea that this story is just a big nothing-burger makes no sense at all. One of two things happened: the online accounts of a sitting NY Congressman were hacked and used to send a dicpic to a college co-ed in Seattle, or: a sitting NY Congressman sent a dicpic to a college co-ed in Seattle, lied about not doing it and accused mysterious "others" of hacking his online accounts to make him look bad. How is neither of those a story? Furthermore, how is the fact that we don't know which story is true not newsworthy? Since when is shit like this not fucking catnip to at least some part of the media?

Posted by: holygoat at May 31, 2011 12:44 PM (2ptZ1)

285

@251: "The cavalry is the organization in every army in which it's freedom of movement and maneuver is the envy of every soldier in that army.  Go Cav!!"

Yup, we envy the fuck out of the cavalry.  But at least Gen. Hooker's famous question finally got answered....

Posted by: Soldiers the world over, circa July 1876 at May 31, 2011 12:46 PM (xy9wk)

286 Too bad bugler. If more had there wouldn't be this smoking crater on the bloglandscape. To repeat: This story's not pinin'! It's passed on! This weiner story is no more! This weiner wagging twitter tale has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! The story's a stiff! Bereft of life, it wilts in peace! If Ace hadn't nailed it to his blog it'd be pushing up the daisies! This weiner's metabolic processes are now 'istory! It's off the twig! It's kicked the bucket, It's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! The weiner story's fuckin' snuffed it!..... THIS IS AN EX-weiner story!!

Posted by: vanderleun at May 31, 2011 12:51 PM (cswem)

287 I remember years ago, when the Waco standoff had just started, long before the fires and bullets--a caller called Rush to ask him why he wasn't talking about it, and Rush said he just didn't care about it, didn't think it was interesting.  But that call, in my opinion, made him begin to pay attention, and soon Rush was covering the scandal as it unfolded.  Seems to me we had the same thing out of Rush recently, although for the life of me I can't recall the issue.  If the new conservative media, people like you, Ace, keep on this story and don't let it die, I suspect Rush and some of the others will have to begin talking about Weinergate.

Posted by: Laura Castellano at May 31, 2011 12:53 PM (fuw6p)

288 Nice story, Joker Ace, but where's the weenie?

Posted by: Lt. Lockhart at May 31, 2011 12:54 PM (xy9wk)

289 The worthless money shot that Tony "little guy" Wiener gave us has more girth than our so called giants of the right on the AM dial....9 hours of pussies are us.Maybe Steyn tomorrow will roast the Weiner,he seems to not give a fuck if he steps on some toes.

Posted by: The Dickless Right at May 31, 2011 12:55 PM (XqVzx)

290 MFM:  "Boys will be boys.. #hacked! lol"

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 31, 2011 01:03 PM (9eDbm)

291

OK, I'm buying that it's the coverup that's important. I guess so, anyway. However, coverups never seem to matter to Democrat politicians.

AD, if I had a daughter in college who got a picture of some guy's boner in shorts (who was 20 years older than her), I would hope she would respond to him that it looked like her little finger and be done with it.

 

Posted by: Scott at May 31, 2011 01:09 PM (S3AFi)

292

At least the NRO commenters lit up Goulding for what I found to be a pretty craven piece of work.  As much as I love NRO most of the time, there's still a pants-crease mindset that gets loose in public once in awhile.

Nice to see Ace's partisans (in the good sense of the word) nailing them for it.

No one with an ounce of common sense buys Weiner's defense.  If the George Will wannabes wish to stay "above the fray," they could at least refrain from advancing his bullshit for him.  Goulding on Weiner sounds like Glenn Beck on Sherrod - with about as much cred.

Out - "I was taken out of context."

In - "I was hacked."

Same old shit, different wrapper.

 

 

 

Posted by: societyis2blame at May 31, 2011 01:18 PM (srV3y)

293 PREEMPTIVE SURRENDER - the first and only tactic of the right.

GOOD JOB.

Shit, I might as well become a Democrat, at least *some* of them get paid off with other people's money, at least until they collapse the system and everyone gets shot.

And that would allow me to commit all manner of offenses and it would be "No Big Deal."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 31, 2011 01:20 PM (bxiXv)

294

159 YN:

Given this story, I assume you'd get alot more feedback from your Congressweasel if you offered them a hand-j.

 

Posted by: societyis2blame at May 31, 2011 01:25 PM (srV3y)

295 Mark Levine on Weinergate now.

Posted by: Mrs. SpankMe at May 31, 2011 01:26 PM (8DdAv)

296 Oh man, Levine's rockin' it!!

Posted by: Mrs. SpankMe at May 31, 2011 01:27 PM (8DdAv)

297 #279  You assume people don't care because they aren't clamoring to hear more about it,  when in fact they don't KNOW about it.

My liberal daughter who has moved in with me (and whom I am trying to convert) didn't know anything about this story until I told her.  Once she knew,   it was easy to use this as an example about how the media is biased and protects perverts and tax cheats who are democrats while persecuting GOP people who have done similar (although not as embarrassing) things.

GOP Craigs List guy resigned.  Weiner is staying put.  ALSO an illustration of how both parties operate.

People care about this once they know.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 31, 2011 01:28 PM (Fo83G)

298 Gotta say Ace that Jack Cashill has complained about this same thing. This post represents one thing that sometimes pisses me off about NRO. When the "bither" issue came up the NRO editors all basically said was, Yep the birthers are crazy. I don't for a minute believe that they evaluated the "birthers" complaints about Obama or the facts that led them to become "birthers". In other word they didn't want to be laughed about by their buddies in the MBM and just declared the moment fringe. The only dissenting opinion was Andy McCarthy. In other words BROTHER others have felt your pain. Just remeber what Kid Rock says, "fingers in the air with the flag still waving." PEACE

Posted by: Midnight Clad at May 31, 2011 01:31 PM (Qbs3S)

299 Story's on the ropes, yeah - like Ali was on the ropes at the Rumble in the Jungle.

Posted by: melanerpes at May 31, 2011 01:33 PM (iQNl8)

300 You legalese experts here should take on "lil smokie" by printing en mass the hypocrisy of the reps engaging (sexually harasssing ) comely college coeds at the same time he is sponsoring a bill to prevent this very thing . After all isn't the ultimate goal here to expose and defeat this perv in any /all political aspirations? If he did indeed sponsor such a bill, thiis qs should be tweeted ad nauseum... Means to an end.

Posted by: GOOOH at May 31, 2011 01:35 PM (/+Kac)

301 And why would that be?

I think most people just don't give a crap if some politician did or did not send a picture of his boxers to some girl over twitter. Seriously. I'm trying really hard to give a crap here but I just can't bring myself to. Does anyone seriously think these guys aren't scumbags to begin with?

I get the headhunting aspect, people want to see a Dem congressman go down in flames. I get the "if a Republican did this he'd already be resigning" part. I just don't care about the story.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 31, 2011 01:51 PM (r4wIV)

302 Pretty funny how the libs are using all sorts of diagnostics attempting to prove that the photo is a fraud, yet they get their panties in a knot when anyone looks at Obama's long-form birth certificate abnormalities.

Just sayin'...

Posted by: Meg Whitman at May 31, 2011 03:02 PM (gKVmY)

303 O'Reilly just called out both Weiner and the FBI to comment on this thing, the two babes on "Is It Legal" aren't buying Weinerman's story.

Posted by: Reagan Forever at May 31, 2011 03:37 PM (RbvH+)

304 Ace - Good work. Keep it up.

Posted by: Penultimatum at May 31, 2011 04:19 PM (fJHpU)

305 "Honestly: If you have questions, if you need to be caught-up, write to me, I'll answer them." Bullshit. Since when do you answer emails, Ace?

Posted by: Mike MacConnell at May 31, 2011 04:44 PM (RtIlH)

306 It's the Obama birth certificate strategy all over again.

Weiner is being soft in his refutation because he knows it will feed the fringe.

Look at the timing.  During his campaign, the issue will be brought to a head by a chorus of "crazy conspiracy theorists" and then he'll drop the evidence on his opponent's head.  He's hoping he has to run against a single issue "Weinergate candidate" rather than a more formidable one.  He can say "It's the economy, Stupid!" and his critics will look like a bunch of paranoid loons who are more obsessed with conspiracy theories about sex than they are about the economy.

Obama did the same thing with the birther controversy. 

Posted by: blip at June 01, 2011 05:07 AM (1WdUw)

307 Michelle Malkin will be on Hannity's show tonight to discuss Weinergate - and don't lose heart, Ace. Even smaller conservative blogs like mine have been covering this scandal, thanks to the great work you and Stacy and Daily Caller have done in delving into its underbelly. My traffic on my blog in regards to Weinergate has had a lot of heavy traffic coming from New York. The congressman's press meltdown on ABC and some members of Congress wanting to investigate his so-called hacked accounts will start to explode in his face soon. Memorial Day weekend slowed down the response, but it's starting to build.

Posted by: ClassicFilm at June 01, 2011 11:16 AM (PvO6S)

308

Life's not fair. You'd think that conservatives would have internalized that lesson by now.

NRO and Weekly Standard actually have internalized it and backed away.  They don't realize that they will be extinct even before the legacy media unless they come out swinging.  Each new scandal or a crisis shows us something.  This one showed us the conservative media's soft underbelly.  Come on guys, remember that axiom: use it or lose it.

Posted by: Decaf at June 03, 2011 08:03 AM (XUoX3)

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